[12:00] <Pegasos989> orionrobots I haven't tested any yet (installed this today) but if this is the same problem I had once long ago in another install, it is really poor
[12:00] <orionrobots> daziplqa: Dont go crazy with the bots...
[12:01] <Alonea> Hyarion: oh, ok, Well, if you pop open your case, you should be able to find it pretty easily. If its doing it on no matter what OS you put on, then its probably hardware in some way. Other possible things is your RAM is going out. With hardware its hard to tell sometimes.
[12:01] <Pegasos989> orionrobots you think I have some 3d acceleration thingy unenabled or something?
[12:01] <Hyarion> Alonea, no it's just Ubuntu, Windows was fine.
[12:01] <soundray> daziplqa: do you think you can manage this?
[12:01] <orionrobots> Pegasos989: Do you know which drivers you are running for the card? You might well be using software 3d.
[12:01] <cables> Can anyone explain how Gnome lets me shutdown without me being root/typing in a sudo password?
[12:02] <daziplqa> sound : done
[12:02] <Alonea> Hyarion: hmmm. *shrugs* I really don't know. But its still a thing to check out though. Does it do it even after reinstalling your OS?
[12:02] <orionrobots> !ati | Pegasos989
[12:02] <ubotu> Pegasos989: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <soundray> daziplqa: I need the URL
[12:02] <daziplqa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11580/
[12:02] <daziplqa> is that ?
[12:02] <soundray> daziplqa: thanks, checking
[12:02] <daziplqa> sound : tyt
[12:03] <orionrobots> Hylarion: Have you checked CPU temperatures?
[12:03] <eegore> is the 8800 NVidia card fully supported yet?
[12:03] <Pegasos989> orionrobots I haven't done anything to drivers yet so whatevever came with the ubuntu... I allready found that page in help but it said "We encourage users to prefer open source drivers" or something which turned me away from that... I should try it?
[12:03] <Hyarion> Alonea, no I haven't tried that but I think that's my next step, thanks for your help
[12:03] <orionrobots> Pegasos989: The open source drivers will use only software 3D renderers - and be very slow.
[12:04] <Alonea> Hyarion: No problem. I try.
[12:04] <crdlb> eegore, I think you need a newer nvidia driver than is included in edgy
[12:04] <daziplqa> sound : no "eth" term found, right ??
[12:04] <eegore> so the 7950 would be the safer bet than
[12:04] <Pegasos989> orionrobots Okay, that's propably it then. Thanks for the help.:)
[12:04] <orionrobots> Pegasos989: Although the proprietary ones are not the most "politically correct" ones, they do give more features.
[12:04] <eegore> crdlb: ^?
[12:04] <daziplqa> O:-)
[12:05] <crdlb> Pegasos989, installing newer nvidia drivers isn't particularly hard if you use the repository at http://albertomilone.com
[12:05] <crdlb> eegore, ^^
[12:05] <crdlb> whoops
[12:05] <orionrobots> crdlb - he is on an ati card.
[12:06] <crdlb> orionrobots, but he's asking about the 8800
[12:06] <rj686> when i boot my computer nautilus loads, but i'm staring at a blank desktop, no icons no menu
[12:06] <eegore> than the 7950 would be the best budget solution from my viewpoint
[12:06] <Pegasos989> Wtf... Just remembered that my ATI card broke when I was using windows and I now have geforce 4200 in this thing as a "temporary solution". Does it change something (ie. do I still need to just get drivers or is the card so old that it is the problem)
[12:06] <orionrobots> !nvidia | Pegasos989
[12:06] <ubotu> Pegasos989: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:07] <Nullbyte> No card is too old :)
[12:07] <ultm8> bye folks
[12:07] <ultm8> :)
[12:07] <Nullbyte> The problem is never cards
[12:07] <soundray> daziplqa: can you try 'sudo modprobe 8139too', then 'ifconfig' again
[12:07] <Nullbyte> See you ultm8 :)
[12:07] <orionrobots> True
[12:07] <Nullbyte> never = newer*
[12:07] <orionrobots> yup.
[12:07] <daziplqa> ok
[12:07] <rj686> when i boot my computer nautilus loads, but i'm staring at a blank desktop, no icons no menu
[12:07] <daziplqa> !pastebin
[12:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:08] <soundray> daziplqa: no need to paste again
[12:08] <DM|> !pastebin
[12:08] <DM|> !pastebin
[12:08] <daziplqa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11581/
[12:08] <soundray> daziplqa: just tell me whether the output from ifconfig has changed
[12:08] <trester> hi
[12:08] <daziplqa> sound : not found
[12:08] <daziplqa> sound : no, didn't change
[12:08] <yuesefa> how can i watch flv on ubnnt?
[12:08] <yuesefa> ubuntu
[12:09] <orionrobots> For those wanting to get quick info from the bot - try !help > me
[12:09] <soundray> daziplqa: okay. What's your kernel version? Check with 'uname -r'
[12:09] <daziplqa> sound : you do not ask me about my NIC modeL ?
[12:09] <crdlb> yuesefa, mplayer can play them
[12:09] <crdlb> with the proper codecs
[12:09] <yuesefa> i installed. but no image
[12:09] <daziplqa> sound : 2.6.15-23-386
[12:09] <orionrobots> rj686: What else do you expect to see? Do you have a top menu? And a bottom task bar?
[12:09] <trester> hi how would i install dri module?
[12:10] <soundray> daziplqa: I think to make this work, you will have to upgrade to edgy (Ubuntu 6.10)
[12:10] <daziplqa> sound : can you speak in arabic
[12:10] <trester> it seems mine isn't installed
[12:10] <daziplqa> what ???!!!!
[12:10] <soundray> daziplqa: I think to make this work, you will have to upgrade to edgy (Ubuntu 6.10)
[12:10] <daziplqa> sound : noway ??
[12:10] <orionrobots> daziplqa: Some things get fixed in newer versions. It is not a bad suggestion.
[12:11] <trester> i dont have dri in my lsmod can someone tell me what package i need?
[12:11] <daziplqa> sound : so tell me a nic that works with 6.06
[12:11] <daziplqa> with a reasonable price
[12:11] <trester> and when i try modprobe dri it doesn't work
[12:11] <ant> trester : it may not answer your question but you can search with apt-cache search dri
[12:11] <rj686> orionrobots: i mean no standard gdm menu just a blank screen
[12:11] <crdlb> daziplqa, anything with an intel or ralink chipset
[12:12] <daziplqa> such what ?
[12:12] <rj686> orionrobot: randomly i booted up my computer and i just got the loading screen, it loads nautilus and then i just get a brown screen
[12:12] <soundray> daziplqa: I would expect any NIC to work, it's just bad luck that yours doesn't.
[12:12] <orionrobots> Hmm - sorry to run out.. gotta go.
[12:12] <daziplqa> it is RLT8139D
[12:13] <rj686> when i boot my computer nautilus loads, but i'm staring at a brown desktop, no icons no gdm  menu
[12:13] <TSWoodV> We're starting to see NICs with firmware that needs to be loaded via the driver.  That'll be a problem for open source.
[12:13] <soundray> daziplqa: if upgrading is a big hassle for you, make sure your kernel is up to date. I think there is a later kernel than -23 for dapper.
[12:13] <daziplqa> sound : have you heard about it be4 ?
[12:13] <ant> daziplqa : i looked earlier and found NO support for that card
[12:13] <trester> ant that returned a lot of lines
[12:13] <adaptr> daziplqa: any 3com or intel NIC works
[12:13] <adaptr> and works well
[12:13] <TSWoodV> daziplqa: RTL- Realtek stuff.  Should work.
[12:13] <soundray> daziplqa: yes, it's a fairly common chipset. I'm surprised that it doesn't work.
[12:13] <trester> ant i'm just trying to get fglrx working and i keep getting mesa under fglxinfo and no dri under glxinfo
[12:14] <ant> trester: have you installed the ati drivers?
[12:14] <soundray> daziplqa: sometimes it helps to apply some black magic as well, like changing PCI slots.
[12:14] <TSWoodV> daziplqa: Probably uses the 8139too drive.
[12:14] <whtet> guys I have set up a DNS server ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093 ) when I do 'dig dns.mydomain.com' it works but when I 'ping dns.mydomain.com' it doesn't work, how can i fix it?
[12:14] <TSWoodV> s/drive/driver/
[12:14] <soundray> TSWoodV: we tried loading that.
[12:14] <trester> oh wow ant it just worked with a reboot
[12:14] <adaptr> whtet: DNS != ICMP ECHO
[12:14] <TSWoodV> Sorry, soundray.
[12:14] <trester> thanks thoguh!
[12:15] <daziplqa> sound : r u sure that it is work ??
[12:15] <ant> trester : still knowledge gained no?
[12:15] <soundray> daziplqa: could you look at 'dmesg' again, just the last few lines: did 8139too leave any message there?
[12:15] <ep2011> does anyone know of some screenshots or videos I can see of the installation menus when you already have free space?
[12:16] <soundray> daziplqa: no, like I say, that would be magic.
[12:16] <ant> daziplqa : use "tail" to look at the end of a file.
[12:16] <trester> ant yep
[12:16] <daziplqa> sound :
[12:16] <ant> :)
[12:16] <daziplqa> ls
[12:16] <daziplqa> thanx to ALLAH, then you; i found anew line :
[12:17] <daziplqa> sound : could i paste it here , it is just one line ?
[12:17] <trester> ant well it looks like i'm not exactly done
[12:17] <soundray> daziplqa: yes, I don't think anyone will object.
[12:17] <trester> ant it seems i'm only getting 16 bit
[12:17] <daziplqa> 4296694.449000]  8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27
[12:17] <daziplqa> it is it.
[12:17] <daziplqa> sound : what about ??
[12:18] <fatlip> The following packages have been kept back: kdelibs5 kdelibs5-dev
[12:18] <soundray> daziplqa: yes, it means that it's loaded, but if ifconfig doesn't change, it doesn't help.
[12:18] <fatlip> i keep getting that same error
[12:18] <whtet> adaptr , I have the working dns server (i didn't set it up) and if I ping the same host with a the hostname known for the working dns server, it works
[12:18] <Enverex> fatlip, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:18] <fatlip> i did that
[12:18] <fatlip> it didnt fix it
[12:18] <fatlip> says its holding back
[12:18] <daziplqa> sound : oops
[12:19] <soundray> What's the latest kernel in dapper, please?
[12:19] <daziplqa> sound : it did n't change, what about rebooting ??
[12:19] <TSWoodV> fatlip: Sounds as if there's some dependency that can't be solved by upgrading those packages.
[12:19] <ant> daziplqa : buy a new card for $20
[12:19] <daziplqa> and : what will be its model ?
[12:19] <daziplqa> ant * :
[12:20] <ant> daziplqa : ask someone who has one that worked out of the box.
[12:20] <ant> daziplqa : or look at the supported hardware list.
[12:20] <soundray> daziplqa: you can buy any PCI card, and it should work. It's very rare that one doesn't.
[12:20] <bruenig> soundray, doing apt-cache show linux-image-generic | grep Depends will show it but that is assuming you have dapper installed
[12:20] <br1> Hi.  I'm having trouble making ddclient run automatically at startup.  It works when run manually, and it's checked in sysvconfig.  Any hints?
[12:20] <soundray> daziplqa: remember, you can always upgrade to edgy and it will likely work then.
[12:22] <soundray> bruenig: linux-image-generic doesn't exist in dapper...
[12:22] <bruenig> !info linux-image dapper
[12:22] <ubotu> Package linux-image does not exist in dapper
[12:22] <bruenig> wha
[12:22] <Tom_Kun_> anyone know how to get an atmel based usb dongle work in ubuntu? Just plugging it in didn't seem to help much :)
[12:22] <bruenig> It has some meta package I thought
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> !info linux-image-686 dapper
[12:23] <ubotu> linux-image-686: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.26 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> bruenig: ^^
[12:23] <soundray> thanks tonyyarusso
[12:23] <bruenig> show off
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> :)
[12:23] <soundray> daziplqa: to get the current kernel, run 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-686'
[12:23] <cfedde> can I get eth0 to lock to 100baseTx-FD at boot rather than negotiating?
[12:23] <__mikem> whose being a showoff
[12:24] <sabotai> hi
[12:24] <sabotai> need help here please
[12:24] <soundray> cfedde: with ethtool
[12:24] <cfedde> soundray: I can set it but I have to write a boot script.
[12:24] <theherbalizer> cat /proc/cpuinfo/   ....what am i doing wrong?
[12:24] <soundray> cfedde: just call it from /etc/rc.local
[12:25] <evoxy> what's a good nes emulator?
[12:25] <cfedde> soundray: yeah.  I thought I was overlooking something.
[12:25] <sabotai> can anyone help me with my sound issue...i cant hear nothing
[12:25] <soundray> theherbalizer: drop the trailing /
[12:25] <theherbalizer> LOL
[12:25] <theherbalizer> alright
[12:25] <theherbalizer> thanks
[12:25] <ant> i wish gnome-look woud come back up so i could get me leeto gdm theme.
[12:25] <theherbalizer> rofl
[12:25] <soundray> theherbalizer: don't laugh, it was hard to diagnose!
[12:25] <soundray> ;)
[12:25] <theherbalizer> soundray: really?
[12:25] <sabotai> help please
[12:25] <trester> ant which theme
[12:26] <ant> trester : blank sereen
[12:26] <trester> also can someone tell me why i can't switch to a console anymore with ctrl+alt+function key?
[12:26] <ant> lol
[12:26] <ant> trester: did you just upgrade to edgy?
[12:27] <trester> ant no dapper
[12:27] <cfedde> is ethtool prefered to mii-tool?
[12:27] <soundray> sabotai: failed
[12:27] <soundray> cfedde: by me, yes. But I don't think it makes a difference.
[12:27] <trester> ant is that blank sereen on art.gnome.org?
[12:27] <ant> trester : there was a couple people in here yesterday with your same problem, but no fix.
[12:27] <Berad> What is the pack to install the java jdk?
[12:27] <jrib> !java > Berad    (Berad, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:27] <soundray> sabotai: have you had a look at the wiki docs:
[12:27] <ant> trester : i will look, appreciate it.
[12:27] <soundray> !sound | sabotai
[12:27] <ubotu> sabotai: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:28] <Berad> Thanks
[12:28] <sabotai> hello can anyone help me plsss
[12:28] <kleber_> hello folks, does anybody use/know about intel S3000AH mother board ? The chipset is an intel S3000...
[12:28] <sabotai> BoOm!
[12:28] <trester> ant i was actually just asking for myself hehe where were  you going to get it from?
[12:28] <neozen> meep
[12:28] <soundray> sabotai: hey, I'm trying
[12:28] <ant> gnome-look.org
[12:28] <sabotai> ok
[12:29] <sabotai> ive followed the procedures on ubuntu forum but no luck
[12:29] <Enverex> kleber_, What about it?
[12:29] <sabotai> whats my ping
[12:29] <sabotai> !ping
[12:29] <ubotu> pong
[12:29] <kleber_> Enverex: do you know if it works fine (all features) ?
[12:30] <ant> trester : yea art.gnome only has two pages of gdm themes... on gnome-look i was on page 15 and still had a lot to look through
[12:30] <auge02> what you do?
[12:30] <Enverex> kleber_, You need to look up the specific components
[12:30] <kleber_> Enverex: the intel s3000 chipset
[12:30] <ikonia> sabotai: what do you want, as you keep typing ping and boom and other pointless words
[12:30] <sabotai> i want help sorry
[12:30] <ikonia> sabotai: with what
[12:31] <sabotai> i cant hear no sound
[12:31] <ep2011> Should I resize my windows partition for freespace before or during installation of ubuntu dual-boot?
[12:31] <kjm> is there a way to extract the audio stream from Rhythmbox
[12:31] <soundray> sabotai: I'm trying, but you are ignoring me
[12:31] <sabotai> sorry
[12:31] <ikonia> soundray: I'll back away, sorry didn't see you helping
[12:31] <sabotai> too many text
[12:31] <ikonia> soundray: just saw him messing around
[12:31] <soundray> No, ikonia, it's fine
[12:31] <ikonia> sabotai: you add to the "too many" with your pointless words
[12:31] <Enverex> kleber_, Chipsets are made up of things, that alone wont help, as I said..
[12:31] <ant> lol @ ikonia
[12:31] <sabotai> anyway yea ive tried the guide on the forum n didnt work
[12:32] <ikonia> which guide
[12:32] <kleber_> Enverex: yeah, you're right... I will get more info about that mobo
[12:32] <l90bpm> anyone ever set up TightVNC (cross platform to windoze)
[12:32] <sabotai> the guide on multimedia ubutu forum
[12:32] <ikonia> sabotai: show me
[12:32] <sabotai> hold on
[12:32] <kjm> is there a way to extract the audio stream from Rhythmbox
[12:32] <Stormx2> sabotai: What issue are you having?
[12:32] <Stormx2> kjm: And input into where?
[12:32] <sabotai> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[12:32] <soundray> Good night guys, thanks ikonia, hope you can fix it
[12:32] <crdlb> kjm, use mplayer -dumpstream
[12:32] <sabotai> i cant hear anything
[12:32] <auge02> what you has infom. ov cross over system or vnc?
[12:32] <kjm> Stormx2 - some file
[12:33] <kjm> crdlb - thanks, I'll give that a look
[12:33] <Stormx2> kjm: Ah. I think rhythmbox uses gstreamer... but I'm not sure how to stream into a file..
[12:33] <TheVault> Got a question. If an application needs flash to run, how do I install flash system wide?
[12:33] <ikonia> !flas >thevault
[12:34] <kjm> Stormx2 - thanks for that info - I could probably google the solution knowing gstreamer
[12:34] <Berad> What are some views on KDeveloper?
[12:34] <Berad> for c/c++?
[12:34] <cfedde> hum... /etc/rc.local does not appear to exist on this system.
[12:34] <TheVault> ikonia: Did not return any results
[12:34] <kjm> Berad - it is a nice IDE; I prefer anjuta
[12:34] <ikonia> !flash >thevault
[12:34] <TheVault> ikonia: So thats going to tell me how to install it system wide and not just for firefox?
[12:34] <Berad> What are your preferences with anjuta?
[12:35] <ant> !upstart
[12:35] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[12:35] <ikonia> TheVault: you need a "flash player" in this case firefox to use the libs
[12:35] <dcordes> I have some data here, compressed and divided into several .r00 .r01 .r02.. archives. how can i extract that? tar says unkown format
[12:35] <byen> installing Grub into MBR (vista preinstalled) would it create issues?  I do not have a vista cd and need assistance
 are you familiar w/ VNC from ubuntu to windoze???
[12:35] <jrib> !rar > dcordes    (dcordes, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:35] <kjm> Berad - I prefer Gnome, Anjuta is GTK app, therefore, I prefer it.  Same features can be found in both that I need
[12:35] <ant> !rar | dcordes
[12:35] <ubotu> dcordes: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:35] <jrib> dcordes: open the first one
[12:35] <TheVault> ikonia: But I need it so a program can run....I got flash installed on Firefox, just need it where applications can use it
[12:35] <cfedde> oops.  My mistake...
[12:35] <Stormx2> byen: it won't. GRUB detects vista afaik.
[12:35] <busfahrer> my old mpegs are being played back in black & white, what could be wrong?
[12:35] <dcordes> jrib: thx mate
[12:36] <ikonia> TheVault: what is the application
[12:36] <sabotai> thevault:u mite wanna install adobe flash
[12:36] <TheVault> sabotai: Yeah, system wide so that if a program needs it, it will run
[12:36] <sabotai> thevault: yea i got macromedia flash but on windows it can open anything flash
[12:36] <Tom_Kun_> hmm.. still need some tips regarding an atmel based wireless usb dongle
[12:36] <byen> Stormx2: I ask because I have seen so many threads in the forums where they complain abt being unable to boot into vista
[12:37] <TheVault> sabotai: I'm not on Windows or I wouldn't be asking :)
[12:37] <ep2011> Should I resize my windows partition for freespace before or during installation of ubuntu dual-boot?
[12:37] <dcordes> jrib: i have a program installed called unrar. is that what i'm looking for?
[12:37] <auge02> a std. packet on debian is vnc und ubunto based of debian --> on ubunto you can used vnc and tightVNC go whitch std. vnc
[12:37] <kjm> byen - I'd complain about booting *into* vista myself.
[12:37] <Tom_Kun_> seems like the device is not recognized
[12:37] <TheVault> sabotai: I was not being smart lol
[12:37] <sabotai> thevault: is there a linux version of adobe flash?
[12:37] <lugod> sabotai: yes
[12:37] <jrib> dcordes: yes, you can use that on the command line (unrar x file.rar) or you can just use the Archive Manager after installing unrar properly
[12:37] <byen> kjm: sometimes you need to take some things in stride
[12:37] <TheVault> sabotai: Ahh, brb
[12:38] <l90bpm> I know it it can run in ubuntu because it's in the ubuntu 2007 bible
[12:38] <lugod> sabotai: there is adobe flash for linux, or 'gnash' which is a Free replacement
[12:38] <sabotai> thevault: yea i guess u gotta install that adobe linux or w/e its aclled
[12:38] <l90bpm> just had a question about it is all
[12:38] <gago0021> hello, what are the tools needed if i want to create programs for ubuntu
[12:38] <auge02> unrar -x i'm think
[12:38] <ikonia> sabotai: you should know - you just recommended he install a product that doesn't exist
[12:38] <dcordes> jrib: i will check using the manager
[12:38] <TheVault> sabotai: Yeah, just dawned on me lol
[12:38] <l90bpm> just need to set up remote desktop on the one machine, correct?
[12:38] <byen> so Installing ubuntu and then grub into th mbr should be ok? no more work needed?
[12:38] <jrib> auge02: -x means something else I believe
[12:38] <l90bpm> and not both?
[12:38] <sabotai> thevault: umm i didnt say it exists
[12:38] <kjm> gago0021 - automake for 1, gcc, some development environment, or at least a decent text editor.
[12:38] <TheVault> sabotai: Its worth a shot though :P
[12:38] <jrib> gago0021: depends on how you want to create them
[12:39] <ant> byen : ubuntu installs grub for you
[12:39] <dcordes> jrib: great it's working. thanks again
[12:39] <sabotai> god i cant keep track of these texts
[12:39] <jrib> dcordes: np
[12:39] <neozen-away> gago0021: for a first language I'd recommend python
[12:39] <l90bpm> lol
[12:39] <Megaqwerty> can anyone tell me how to add an anonymous account to my proftpd server?
[12:39] <sabotai> how do i register my username?
[12:39] <TheVault> wait, so there is only a flash plugin for firefox, not system wide?
[12:40] <jrib> gago0021: I would definitely agree with neozen
[12:40] <tjs> I've got edgy on a machine behind my adsl router. When I apt-get install something I get timeouts: 0% [Connecting to au.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]    #note the IP.   if I ping au.archive.ubuntu.com first it resolves and then apt-get works.. this is really odd
[12:40] <gago0021> i see..
[12:40] <jrib> !register > sabotai    (sabotai, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:40] <sabotai> ok ty
[12:40] <gago0021> kjm, jrib, neozen: thanks
[12:40] <auge02> !register auge02
[12:40] <trester> has anyone had problems with only getting 1024x768 resolution with ati cards
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register auge02 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <gerscht> !register > gerscht
[12:40] <kjm> !register > auge02
[12:40] <jrib> trester: are you trying to get more resolutions available to you?
[12:41] <l90bpm> !TightVNC
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tightvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <neozen> gago0021: then you just create your apps.. use the gtk toolkit to do your gui's and they'll obey themes (which we like) they'll work.... (which we really like) and the code will be cleaner and more understandable (which we like most of all)
[12:41] <earthen> I have an ATI X700 running fglrx driver and beryl, everything runs fine but when i try and shutdown ubuntu  or gnome I'm not quite sure crashes anyone have this problem
[12:41] <l90bpm> didn't figure ubotu
[12:41] <l90bpm> lol
[12:41] <livingdaylight> my wireless card died
[12:41] <livingdaylight> Can someone tell me a wireless card that works out of the box with Ubuntu?
[12:41] <auge02> .
[12:42] <LadyNikon> livingdaylight: umm.. hold on
[12:42] <neozen> livingdaylight: intel pro wireless 3945abg
[12:42] <ant> gago0021 : glade is good for making gtk progs
[12:42] <LadyNikon> livingdaylight: i have a dell truemobile card
[12:42] <LadyNikon> it works great
[12:42] <neozen> its what I've got ... and I didn't have to do anything to it
[12:42] <trester> jrib yes exactly
[12:42] <LadyNikon> i have a centrino wireless card too
[12:42] <LadyNikon> the internal ones
[12:42] <jrib> gago0021: the tutorial at docs.python.org and diveintopython.org are great starting points for python
[12:42] <jrib> !fixres > trester    (trester, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:43] <ant> gago0021 : ubuntu comes with a python tutorial as well
[12:43] <neozen> livingdaylight: diveintopython especially... whole book thats just free on the net
[12:43] <l90bpm> TightVNC experience anywhere in this room?
[12:43] <neozen> yeah
[12:43] <neozen> right here
[12:43] <livingdaylight> neozen : sounds like laptop wirelss
[12:43] <\shaman> how to shape traffic in easy way for different users behind a NAT server with ubuntu? I need just something like .. 192.168.0.3=2mbit, 192.168.0.4=unlim etc
[12:43] <lugod> 190bpm: I've used it a little
[12:43] <gago0021> so basically, python is like visual basic for ubuntu? can I safely say that?
[12:43] <neozen> livingdaylight: it is
[12:44] <neozen> livingdaylight: but it really works
[12:44] <l90bpm> question: will I need to set up remote desktop on both machines?
[12:44] <BigMike> Pardon my noobness...I have a great working install...but the boot isnt to my satisfaction. First thing I need to know...does grub mess up a windows embedded partition (i.e. the boot to dvd movie that HP offers)?
[12:44] <livingdaylight> Anyone know a pci wirless card for Desktop? that works out of the box with Ubuntu
[12:44] <ant> gago0021 : no, its a scripting language
[12:44] <jrib> gago0021: no, you should run and hide after saying that
[12:44] <l90bpm> or just the one I want to view?
[12:44] <ant> lol
[12:44] <livingdaylight> neozen : i'm talking atobu a desktop here
[12:44] <livingdaylight> thanks anyways
[12:44] <lugod> 190bpm: only on the remote machine, not on the client
[12:44] <neozen> gago0021: that's death
[12:44] <l90bpm> great
[12:44] <l90bpm> ty
[12:44] <LjL> jrib: can do the former, can't do the latter. especially if seveas sees it you know :)
[12:44] <neozen> gago0021: coding in visual basic that is
[12:44] <ant> gago0021 : glade will allow you to make windows in gnome.
[12:44] <neozen> no ... don
[12:45] <sabotai> test
[12:45] <neozen> 't code for gnome
[12:45] <lugod> 190bpm: and note that 'remote desktop' is also the name of another protocol different from VNC
[12:45] <neozen> code for standard gtk
[12:45] <neozen> lol
[12:45] <gago0021> ah hehehe.. so never micd what I said.. I really want to know how to make programs that will work with ubuntu
[12:45] <ztomiccomputers> Cod1, there ya go
[12:45] <Tom_Kun_> is it even possible to get this usb dongle working with the atmel driver? I'm a bit unsure since the ubuntu site says it should detect it automaticly, while it doesn't when I plug it in
[12:45] <thehumanerror> hm, Sound Juicer is foxed by an "Enhanced CD"
[12:45] <l90bpm> finally, I can kill micropoop on this pc all together and just VNC it from the laptop
[12:45] <neozen> so that people like me who don't want to grab the gnome libs can use your app too
[12:45] <thehumanerror> what should I do?
[12:45] <sabotai> is edgy beta than drapper?
[12:45] <thehumanerror> dapper?
[12:45] <earthen> anyone having problem with ATI driver crashing ubuntu on Exit
[12:46] <livingdaylight> Anyone know about a wirelss card for Desktop that works out of the  box with Ubuntu?
[12:46] <neozen> lol @ human error
[12:46] <neozen> nice name mon
[12:46] <l90bpm> lugod, explain
[12:46] <jrib> sabotai: what do you mean?
[12:46] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : maybe you have a bad usb, try plugging it into another
[12:46] <neozen> I take it you're new?
[12:46] <sabotai> neozen: me?
[12:46] <Tom_Kun_> ant: tried that already :) no change.
[12:46] <neozen> sabotai: : no.... meant thehumanerror
[12:46] <neozen> lol
[12:47] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : that would've been to easy.
[12:47] <lugod> l90bpm: 'remote desktop protocol' is used by miscosoft terminal server; there are linux clients but no linux server for that protocol
[12:47] <trester> hey thanks jrib didn't try it yet but thanks
[12:47] <Cod1> Hey guys.. i was just in the linux channel they told me to come here, im having sound trouble, anyone care to help?
[12:47] <BigMike> Okay lemme ask this then - I want to move grub from my linux drive (drive 2) to my windows drive (drive 1) without reinstalling Ubuntu. Are these some accurate instructions for installing grub only? http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[12:47] <Tom_Kun_> ant: true enough :p
[12:47] <sabotai> jrib: im using drapper atm but thingkin of upgrading it to edgy..shud i? or not?
[12:47] <Stormx2> Please can someone tell me if they have a setup where more than one app can write sound?!
[12:47] <Tom_Kun_> considering ubuntu recognizes that i've inserted a device. :)
[12:47] <Stormx2> To the mixer.
[12:47] <neozen> sabotai: I'd hold out for feisty
[12:47] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : there was a guy in here yesterday with usb probs, he had 16 ports and tried forever with the same one, found out it was just bad.
[12:47] <Dame> Anybody have working xen compiled from source on edgy?
[12:48] <linxeh> Stormx2: it depends how you set up the apps, and whether the apps can cope with it
[12:48] <neozen> sabotai: its only 3 weeks away
[12:48] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: Is that because you have a sound card that doesn't have hardware mixing?
[12:48] <sabotai> neozen: what is?
[12:48] <Stormx2> I don't know >.< Its an oldish card.
[12:48] <ztomiccomputers> Cod1, btw, is that a lappy?
[12:48] <neozen> sabotai: feisty fawn
[12:48] <thehumanerror> I have that in my ThinkPad X24
[12:48] <thehumanerror> it sucks
[12:48] <sabotai> neozen: whats that?
[12:48] <jrib> sabotai: well the advantages of edgy are basically that newer software is available.  The advantages of dapper is that it will receive security updates for a longer period of time, so you won't be /forced/ to upgrade for a while
[12:48] <neozen> sabotai: next release
[12:48] <Stormx2> It might just be my software setup? It mixes fine on windows.
[12:48] <Tom_Kun_> ant: well, I do know that atmel cards really aren't that good in linux generally. I've had to connect wired from this computer every time I've used a linux distro.. It would've been nice to get it working though :p
[12:48] <thehumanerror> yeah, it's software mixing
[12:48] <kjm> neozen - feisty is only 3 weeks away?  Feels like just yesterday I upgraded to edgy
[12:48] <Tom_Kun_> since everything else works so smoothly
[12:49] <sabotai> neozen: oh ok
[12:49] <linxeh> Stormx2: and you use the same applications, with the SAME CONFIGURATION OF LINUX DEVICES on your windows box? really...
[12:49] <thehumanerror> if that is what the problem is after all, it's jus ta guess
[12:49] <neozen> kjm: yeah.... released around a month from now
[12:49] <neozen> !feisty
[12:49] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[12:49] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : the bad part is that other people have had it work so easy.
[12:49] <thehumanerror> linxeh: That's a very helpful comment
[12:49] <jrib> sabotai: even if you wait for feisty to be released you would still need to ugprade to edgy first before upgrading to feisty
[12:49] <l90bpm> is this not one?  www.tightvnc.com/download.html
[12:49] <eimajenthat> Anyone running VirtualBox on a dual-processor machine?  Does it take advantage of the duality?
[12:49] <sabotai> i had problem when trying to upgrade from drapper to edgy, my pc crashed when it was upgrading
[12:49] <kjm> well, kiss my grits - I'm going to have to give the alpha a shot.
[12:49] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : its not like its known not to work.
[12:49] <Stormx2> linxeh: Point taken. I've never ever been able to have more than one app playing sound though. Its annoying as anything. Surely this isn't a hardware problem if it works fine on windows?
[12:49] <linxeh> thehumanerror: and so was that
[12:50] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: try looking up dmix
[12:50] <linxeh> Stormx2: it depends on the applications, and what devices they are writing to
[12:50] <Stormx2> Okay.
[12:50] <lugod> 190bpm: you can just use the packaged version, no need to get it from tightvnc.com
[12:50] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: on the Ubuntu wiki
[12:50] <Stormx2> linxeh: ALSA...
[12:50] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: yeah, ALSA dmix
[12:50] <neozen> jrib: I plan on just whacking out my / and keeping my home ... that should make feisty feel welcome
[12:50] <l90bpm> as long as I can do it I'll be happy
[12:50] <Tom_Kun_> ant: true.. :) just hoped someone in here might have some idea how to get the atmel driver to load on the specific device. Since it's not doing so automagically
[12:50] <lugod> 190bpm: I can send you my script for using vnc over ssh by e-mail if you like
[12:50] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: that might well be it
[12:50] <Stormx2> thehumanerror: Okay, thanks.
[12:50] <TheVault> I got a question. Anybody fimilar with the Firefox extension CLC Speak?
[12:50] <jrib> neozen: yeah, that's a nice way to do it
[12:50] <asdsklf> hello, how can I boot to console closing xwindow so I can install NVIDIA drivers?
[12:51] <l90bpm> 190bpm@gmail.com
[12:51] <jrib> !nvidia > asdsklf    (asdsklf, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:51] <trester> jrib your the man totally worked
[12:51] <TheVault> Basicly an extension that allows the pages to be read to you when you select text and click read?
[12:51] <jrib> trester: great
[12:51] <lugod> 190bpm: ok
[12:51] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : does it show up under 'lsusb'?
[12:51] <l90bpm> note: that is a number 1 in the email
[12:51] <KalleDK> gmail :D
[12:51] <trester> jrib got any quick links for compiz?
[12:51] <l90bpm> some ppl get that confused w/ an L
[12:51] <Tom_Kun_> ant: it shows up under BUs 002, Device 004 on lsusb
[12:51] <asdsklf> thanks!, checking
[12:51] <Stormx2> How can I find my alsa version?
[12:51] <linxeh> Stormx2:  you might also want to consider something like Jack
[12:51] <l90bpm> thank you lugod
[12:51] <jrib> trester: sure, you should even be able to get them yourself by typing this:  /msg ubotu compiz
[12:52] <jrib> !compiz > trester    (trester, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <iUbuntu> What's the differences between Multiverse vs Universe in Software Source of Ubuntu?
[12:52] <trester> jrib thanks!
[12:52] <sabotai> how do you leave a message when quiting?
[12:52] <jrib> !repos > iUbuntu    (iUbuntu, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <KnowledgEngi> flac is a free format ?
[12:52] <jrib> sabotai: /quit MESSAGE HERE
[12:52] <livingdaylight> What wireless card for Desktop work best for Ubuntu: i.e. work out of the box without configuring narffing
[12:52] <jrib> KnowledgEngi: yes
[12:52] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : i had a problem with my camera once.. come to find out i didn't have the right permissions for it.
[12:52] <neozen> iUbuntu: multiverse is legal grey-area and non free
[12:52] <neozen> iUbuntu: in theory
[12:52] <KnowledgEngi> what package i need for run flac?
[12:53] <linxeh> Stormx2: cat /proc/asound/version
[12:53] <iUbuntu> neomi,  So, non-free softwares are in Multiverse, got it.. what about Universe?
[12:53] <iUbuntu> neozen,  *
[12:53] <Flannel> !repositories | iUbuntu
[12:53] <CarlosJackal> anyone else here have the problem that Ubuntu freezes with the screen drawing all manner of jibberish when you press ctrl+alt+1-6 and try to bring up the console? Any ideas?
[12:53] <ubotu> iUbuntu: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:53] <Flannel> iUbuntu: Second link
[12:53] <l90bpm> need to borrow the bot..
[12:53] <Tom_Kun_> ant: might be that of course.. you never know what might turn up.. I'll have to try to get some hints on where to start, and take it from there. Since the kernel already has atmel precompiled, at least I hopefully wont have to do a kernel recompile to get it running :)
[12:53] <l90bpm> !paste
[12:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:53] <KnowledgEngi> !flac
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <gago0021> whatis the best python IDE?
[12:53] <neozen> iUbuntu: well.. don't get me wrong.... its still free... or it wouldn't be in there
[12:53] <darkrho> Hi, i have a quick question. ubuntu-metapackage contains all dependecies as ubunut-desktop iso?
[12:53] <Stormx2> linxeh: I'm on 1.0.12rc1...... "NOTE: For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix. Dmix is enabled as default for soundcards which don't support hw mixing."
[12:54] <neozen> gago0021: komodo... heard good things about komodo
[12:54] <mpmc> can someone tell me why Maximising / Minimising feels really slow...?
[12:54] <jrib> gago0021: there is no best one, just use what you like.  python.org lists a lot, try them all :)  If you want my personal preference, I like vim
[12:54] <linxeh> Stormx2: and you are sure your apps are using the alsa devices, and not /dev/dsp etc ?
[12:54] <darkrho> ... i'm building a debootstrap env, and installing ubuntu-desktop, is the same like installing from desktop cd?
[12:54] <gago0021> ok thanks :)
[12:54] <jrib> mpmc: have you installed the video drivers for your card?
[12:54] <neozen> mpmc you've got a lot of aps running
[12:54] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : well to get my camera working i had to find the bus# and the usb # and then type 'chmod go+w /proc/bus/usb/002/008'
[12:55] <Cod1> Can someone help me with my sound?  I dont have alsaconf
[12:55] <neozen> mpmc or you're using beryl..... in which case.... you don't care
[12:55] <kjm> Cod1 : apt-get install alsaconf then
[12:55] <Cod1> doesnt work
[12:55] <zaza> guys, there is a modified firefox, which doesn't include the cairo support. does anyone know it's name?
[12:55] <Kazero> Can someone help me? I upgraded from edgy to feisty, but now X fails to load withe rrors: VESA: No Mathcing Modes and Screems found, but none have a usuable configuration. Recovering modes dont load.
[12:55] <Flannel> Kazero: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[12:55] <jrib> Kazero: #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[12:55] <Cod1> E: Couldn't find package alsaconf
[12:55] <kjm> more information than "doesnt work" would be beneficial.
[12:55] <kjm> ok
[12:56] <zaza> guys, there is a modified firefox, which doesn't include the cairo support. does anyone know it's name?
[12:56] <neozen> vim does work for just about everything
[12:56] <gregcha117> alright i just installed vmware and followed the guide to getting my existing windows partition to run under vmware from advicesource.org and i keep getting this error : could not open /dev/vmmon: no such device, pleace make usre that the kernel module 'vmmon' is loaded.
[12:56] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : or try a chmod 777 and maybe switch permissions later
[12:56] <neozen> cairo?
[12:56] <livingdaylight> !wireless
[12:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:56] <neozen> gregcha117: you recompiled your kernel right?
[12:56] <[M] orpheus> X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest anyone knows why it gives this message when i run a game?
[12:56] <neozen> gregcha117: I think that's necessary
[12:57] <Stormx2> linxeh: Sure. I'm used sonata which I know uses ALSA with audacious which also uses ALSA.
[12:57] <gregcha117> neozen: it said to use automatix to install but i couldnt find that so i just installed vmware through the terminal
[12:57] <neozen> gregcha117: the default kernel doesn't have support for vmware's extentions to it compiled in
[12:57] <sabotai> cud any1 tell me whats the name of the package for flash plugin?
[12:57] <Flannel> gregcha117: You're lucky.  You don't want to use automatix.
[12:57] <Flannel> !flash | sabotai
[12:57] <ubotu> sabotai: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:57] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:57] <linxeh> Cod1: install alsa-utils and alsa-tools  + alsa-tools-gui
[12:57] <neozen> gregcha117: your guide should've said something about modifying your kernel
[12:57] <iUbuntu> Flannel,  in my own words, restricted is a free reserved software, right?
[12:58] <sabotai> !flash
[12:58] <Flannel> iUbuntu: Reserved?
[12:58] <gregcha117> neozen: no it didnt mention anything about modifying the kernel, just said to install it using automatix
[12:58] <daziplqa> !flash
[12:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:58] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:58] <swhalen> !lame
[12:58] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[12:58] <neozen> gregcha117: you're going to want to modify your kernel
[12:58] <gregcha117> neozen: how would i go about doing that?
[12:58] <neozen> gregcha117: ...just a sec... I'll get you a better guide
[12:59] <iUbuntu> Flannel,  reserved as in reserved software that is used commonly.
[12:59] <linxeh> Cod1:  oh hang on , it looks like alsa-conf has been removed
[12:59] <linxeh> Cod1: it used to be in alsa-utils :o
[12:59] <mpmc> Jrib / neozen: I only have 3 apps running, It just feels slow.. I can see the app frame slowly going down to the tray area, If I enable desktop effects they minimise / maximise fine. The apps are fast, It's just that damn frame makes them feel slow!
[12:59] <neozen> gregcha117: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware
[12:59] <neozen> that'll juice you up
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy
[12:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:00] <wols> mpmc: do you use VESA?
[01:00] <BigMike> Ok...anyone know how to remove grub from a second drive?
[01:00] <mpmc> No.. Nvidia.
[01:00] <Flannel> BigMike: just... install something else overtop of it
[01:00] <ant> good ole fdisk MBR
[01:00] <neozen> lol
[01:00] <neozen> freedos ahoy!
[01:00] <Flannel> iUbuntu: eh?  restricted is stuff that isn't free but is supported
[01:00] <gregcha117> neozen: thanks!
[01:00] <BigMike> Flannel: I need to make the other drive the boot drive so I need to remove grub from a seond drive
[01:01] <neozen> gregcha117: my pleasure
[01:01] <wols> BigMike: huh?
[01:01] <Flannel> BigMike: no you don't, just install grub on the first drive, and make it your boot HD
[01:01] <beg1689> hey, is feisty ready for everyday use?
[01:01] <rupcha> hi
[01:01] <wols> BigMike: which drive is the bootdrive is decided by bIOS, nothing else
[01:01] <Flannel> beg1689: it's beta software.  So, no.
[01:01] <BigMike> Flannel - okay...long story...big breath....
[01:01] <neozen> beg1689: its alpha... which means its good for everyday debugging
[01:01] <beg1689> well what is beta exactly, arent they just adding new features?
[01:02] <neozen> beg1689: its a month away from everyday use
[01:02] <neozen> beg1689: beta means it MIGHT work in its current for
[01:02] <neozen> m
[01:02] <Flannel> beg1689: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_software
[01:02] <neozen> beg1689: tis unstable... and not guarenteed to work
[01:02] <neozen> ...nice Flannel
[01:02] <ant> !beta | beg1689
[01:02] <ubotu> beg1689: Just because it's almost ready doesn't mean you should use it.  Final releases happen when they do for a reason; unless you'd like to become familiar with those reasons through a system that won't boot, just be patient.
[01:02] <Tom_Kun_> bbl.. restart time
[01:02] <beg1689> well i would like to have the nice update packages, kernel 2.6.20, newer nvidia drivers and stuff all int he repo
[01:02] <Flannel> beg1689: Beta means you're opening it to 'general' testing, by regular people.  But it's still buggy.
[01:03] <neozen> lol
[01:03] <neozen> beg1689: its only a month away
[01:03] <neozen> beg1689: patience
[01:03] <beg1689> too long
[01:03] <Drac|BComp> Why is it that when I try to install nvidia-glx, it wants to remove nvidia-settings, and vice versa?!
[01:03] <beg1689> alright alright
[01:03] <Flannel> beg1689: Alpha software is usually not fit for general consumption, traditionally it's not open to public testing, but in most cases now a days, it is.  But don't expect to be stable day to day.
[01:03] <neozen> beg1689: lol... then get to developing
[01:03] <beg1689> nvidia-glx includes nvidia-settings
[01:03] <neozen> beg1689: I'm sure they could use the help testing
[01:03] <Drac|BComp> beg1689: Since when? -.o
[01:03] <Drac|BComp> Well thanks
[01:04] <neozen> beg1689: just don't store mission critical stuff on it
[01:04] <beg1689> well iw as thinking of trying it on another partition
[01:04] <ant> hehe
[01:04] <mpmc> Does anyone know how the hell I disable that god damn frame when Minimising / Maximising... ?
[01:04] <neozen> beg1689: ie... homework, stuff for work, stuff that if you lose.. it could get you canned
[01:04] <l90bpm> lmao
[01:04] <BigMike> I got 2 drives. Drive 1 is windows. Drive 2 is Ubuntu (6.10) I installed GRUB to the *second* drive because I thought it would mess up the boot-to-dvd-movie feature on my hp laptop. So I was using a CD to boot and then that would let me select "boot to disk 2" I have since discovered that grub seems to play well with the embedded windows partition. So now I want to move grub and not deal with the cd boot. So I guess I would hav
[01:04] <BigMike> e to remove grub from the second drive so that when I install it to the first drive, it doesnt get tangled by having grub on two drives
[01:04] <Flannel> beg1689: Feisty support is in #ubuntu+1, Ask there about it's current state of stability.
[01:04] <neozen> mpmc: LOL
[01:05] <wols> BigMike: no
[01:05] <Flannel> BigMike: no.  Just install grub on your first drive, and... forget about it on your second.
[01:05] <wols> reinstall grub, this time to the 1st harddisk mbr
[01:05] <mpmc> neozen: I'm glad you find it funny :(
[01:05] <BigMike> Oh no kidding?
[01:05] <BigMike> That is awesome
[01:05] <Flannel> !grub | BigMike, first link has instructions
[01:05] <ubotu> BigMike, first link has instructions: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:05] <neozen> mpmc: its just..... you're so animated.. I can picture you swearing at your computer from here
[01:05] <Alan__> hello
[01:05] <l90bpm> yeah m2
[01:05] <ant> ahh i remember the lilo days
[01:05] <l90bpm> me2*
[01:05] <mcscruff> ,l
[01:06] <l90bpm> damn fingers
[01:06] <BigMike> The little bugger is smarter than I give it credit for
[01:06] <neozen> mpmc: just like I used to do when I ran JBuilder on a winxp machine with only 256mb ram
[01:06] <neozen> I would POUND on it
[01:06] <l90bpm> I've been there.. had a rough time the first install
[01:06] <l90bpm> beryl?
[01:06] <neozen> well.. the monitor anyway
[01:06] <neozen> lol
[01:06] <mpmc> neozen: 2.4ghz, 768mb ram.. so I don't think it's that :P
[01:06] <Alan__> is there anybody with ubuntu feisty fawn on a sata hd?
[01:07] <ant> #ubuntu+1 probly has a couple
[01:07] <wols> !anybody
[01:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:07] <neozen> mpmc: you're running too much stuff
[01:07] <l90bpm> nah' that's more than this machine has.. and it's as smooth as a babies butt over here
[01:07] <neozen> !feisty
[01:07] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:07] <neozen> go there Alan__
[01:08] <BigMike> I was looking at a thread and it looks like I can just be in my Ubuntu system and just do Setup (hd0) from the grub prompt..no?
[01:08] <neozen> there you may find what you seek
[01:08] <l90bpm> love the idea of auto-codec..  hate the idea of alpha
[01:08] <l90bpm> mixed emotions huh?
[01:08] <neozen> auto-codec?
[01:08] <iUbuntu> Why is that I can't hear sound from youtube, but I can test it Perferences > Sound, TEST? I hear static sound when I press "TEST"
[01:08] <l90bpm> yeah
[01:08] <[M] orpheus> Runing glxgears I got this error, "Error: Could not get dma buffer... exiting" help?
[01:08] <l90bpm> supposedly if your missing a codec, it walks you through
[01:09] <dabaR> !flash | iUbuntu
[01:09] <ubotu> iUbuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:09] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:09] <l90bpm> heard that ealier today actually
[01:09] <dabaR> iUbuntu: try installing the beta from backports.
[01:09] <Tom_Kun> oh well, that didn't help :)
[01:09] <ant> Tom_Kun : did you try chmod 777?
[01:10] <neozen> l90bpm: sounds like easyubuntu... a nice little gui.... with nice little checkboxes for everything you might need in ubuntus .....but sometimes....
[01:10] <ant> Tom_Kun : i think you need execute permission to see files in a folder.
[01:10] <neozen> l90bpm: BOOM!
[01:10] <dabaR> easy codec installation: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd4#head-8aac4593bb52b2a8e7f082b28b7cbee85fc50738
[01:10] <ScatterBrain> Anyway to disable the "Desktop Effects" without being in Gnome?
[01:10] <neozen> and pow! your dependancies are boned
[01:10] <l90bpm> one day I'll be at a command line w/o paste
[01:10] <dabaR> ant: do not suggest 777...
[01:10] <l90bpm> but till then, that sounds wonderful
[01:10] <iUbuntu> dabaR, But The  Ubuntu sound works fine, is this a known issue with Flash? Should I install flashplugins-mozilla and/or flashplugins-nonfree?
[01:10] <BigMike> Flannel - thanks for the link. I saw a post that makes it appear that I can just boot to Ubuntu on my HD and do setup(hd0) from the grub promp. Does that sound right?
[01:10] <ant> dabaR : its temporary.
[01:11] <neozen> l90bpm: that.. will be a scary day
[01:11] <l90bpm> lol
[01:11] <Zenerek> i considered easy ubuntu, but i wanted to learn so i took the hard road
[01:11] <wols> iUbuntu: do you have OSS emulation with sound?
[01:11] <neozen> iUbuntu: I just installed adobe-flashplayer9
[01:11] <iUbuntu> wols,  Ubuntu Sound works, like when I type something in gaim or play DVD, but not with youtube
[01:11] <neozen> ...worked like a champ
[01:11] <dabaR> iUbuntu: the sound works, but your flash does not work well, that is what youtube uses. try installing those, and if that does not help, enable backports, and then install the beta of the new flash.
[01:11] <Tom_Kun> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1371:0001  <-- it seems that it isn't recognizing this ID code as a known card
[01:11] <wols> iUbuntu: that is not what I asked
[01:11] <Tom_Kun> thus, isn't connecting it to a proper driver
[01:11] <Flannel> BigMike: hmm.  That... may work.  I'd use a liveCD though (as that's what hte link actually says)
[01:12] <iUbuntu> wols,  ALSA
[01:12] <wols> Tom_Kun: update pciids
[01:12] <l90bpm> well I'm off to set up my wife spy, just kidding..  can't wait to see what VNC is like
[01:12] <mpmc> neozen: I'm only running, a few apps, this also happened on xubuntu as well so.. The problem isn't with the apps its the minimising / maximising animation.. (Frame slowly shrinks down) it really does feel slow, but the apps are really responsive, I'm running the beta. I guess I'll just have to leave the desktop effects enabled....
[01:12] <l90bpm> see you all later
[01:12] <wols> Tom_Kun: and not recognizing it that way has no influence about drivers. none
[01:12] <dabaR> l90bpm: see ya
[01:12] <neozen> the beta of what??
[01:12] <wols> Tom_Kun: update-pciids to be exact
[01:12] <dabaR> neozen: of the flash
[01:12] <dabaR> 9
[01:13] <rupcha> Edgy installer can't find iso image... Installing from USB stick. First part of installation is ok, until it starts looking for the image. Trying to install ubuntu server. iso is in root dir of usb stick. Any ideas? Thx
[01:13] <mpmc> neozen: Ubuntu 7.04 <_<
[01:13] <neozen> OH
[01:13] <Zenerek> there's a flash newer than 9?
[01:13] <neozen> ..ok
[01:13] <BigMike> Flannel - gotcha. Thanks I'll give it a whirl. If I dont come back...I screwed it up
[01:13] <neozen> no worries for me then
[01:13] <dabaR> Zenerek: no
[01:13] <Flannel> BigMike: if you don't come back, change your BIOS to boot back to 2nd HD ;)
[01:13] <Zenerek> then what's this beta?
[01:13] <Tom_Kun> wols: any other good suggestions as to why it isn't trying to load any driver for it then? :)
[01:13] <wols> Tom_Kun: for what?
[01:13] <dabaR> Zenerek: flash 9 for linux beta
[01:13] <wols> and what drivers are you trying?
[01:14] <Stormx2> Could someone recommend to me a nice way of finding the largest _directories_ within the current directory?
[01:14] <Flannel> Zenerek, dabaR, flash9 is no longer beta.
[01:14] <Tom_Kun> wols: atmel based (specificly cnet 611) usb wlan dongle
[01:14] <rupcha> Stormx2: du ?
[01:14] <dabaR> ls -h
[01:14] <dabaR> Stormx2: try ls -lh
[01:15] <wols> Stormx2: du | sort -g
[01:15] <Zenerek> oh oh i was not getting what you were saying, i installed flash 9 the other day (none beta)
[01:15] <wols> Tom_Kun: is it recongized in dmesg when you plug it in?
[01:15] <mpmc> Can anyone access the msnp servers?
[01:15] <wols> does it show up in lsusb?
[01:16] <Stormx2> wols, dabaR, rupcha, thanks :)
[01:16] <mike1o> is there a way to restore all the applications in a fresh install I had on a previous installation automatically?
[01:16] <Tom_Kun> wols: yes it is :)
[01:16] <neozen> Stormx2: du
[01:17] <Stormx2> neozen: Don't worry, got it
[01:17] <wols> Tom_Kun: does wireless-tools recognize it?
[01:17] <bh_> Stormx2: du --max-depth=1|sorg -g
[01:17] <neozen> mike1o: no
[01:17] <Stormx2> Guys I've just freed 6.5gb >.<
[01:17] <bh_> Stormx2: sort -g that is
[01:17] <mike1o> neozen, semi automatically?
[01:17] <neozen> mike1o: this is not windows..... when you install over an old / ..... the old / is gone
[01:18] <dabaR> mike1o: You can dpkg -l to see what is installed on the disk right now. Some people recommend backing up the /var/cache/apt/archives, which is where the installed packages live. That is if your bandwidth is not a commodity.
[01:18] <neozen> mike1o: sure..... remember the names of the packages you had installed
[01:18] <neozen> time for a break
[01:18] <Zenerek> mike1o i was sorta wondering the same thing, so far i have download sbackup and backed up my var/cache/apt/archives folder
[01:18] <neozen> back later all
[01:19] <mike1o> neozen, but if I keep my home dir all the configurations should remain right?
[01:19] <Stormx2> Zenerek: I think that would install things you've previously installed then uninstalled...
[01:19] <bh_> what's the official upgrade procedure (edgy->feisty)?
[01:19] <dabaR> mike1o: application configurations specific to your user, yes. server configurations are in /etc
[01:19] <Stormx2> !upgrade
[01:19] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:20] <Tom_Kun> wols: as far as I can see, nothing is recognized about the device other than that it is a usb device. Nothing shows up using the wireless commands
[01:20] <Cyrano-Octavious> i jsut installed ubuntu and when i turn on my computer i get an error loading operating system message but if i put in any kinda of boot disk and cancel going into the boot grub will load and then load ubuntu anyone know what this could be
[01:20] <mike1o> dabaR, gnome edgy config files should be compatible with feisty ones...
[01:20] <dabaR> !cloning
[01:21] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[01:21] <dabaR> mike1o: I don't know.
[01:21] <jmg> hello all
[01:21] <Vorian> hi jmg :)
[01:21] <jmg> does anyone know how to prevent gdm managing my :0.1 screen and leave it as a bare x server?
[01:21] <captstevenhiller> anyone in here have the time and patience to help me with a compiling error?
[01:21] <dabaR> !automate | mike1o
[01:21] <ubotu> mike1o: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[01:21] <beg1689> wow thats pretty sweet
[01:21] <dabaR> mike1o: and then the cloning above, too.
[01:21] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: what language?
[01:22] <dabaR> jmg: you want to not use gdm?
[01:22] <captstevenhiller> im running edgy
[01:22] <captstevenhiller> and its a tar
[01:22] <captstevenhiller> tar.bz2
[01:22] <dabaR> !compiling | captstevenhiller
[01:22] <ubotu> captstevenhiller: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:22] <dabaR> Did you read that yet?
[01:22] <jmg> dabaR: not on the second screen
[01:22] <darksoule> My brother recently installed ubuntu on his computer. The only password he set doesn't work for su. Is there a way to default the root password or reset it?
[01:22] <jmg> dabaR: i want freevo on there
[01:23] <Enverex> When I log in it seems to take ages for Gnome to finish loading even though I dont have any extra applications set to open when I log in. Is there anything obvious I should check? (it's not a low power machine)
[01:23] <wols> darksoule: there is a way and no you're not supposed to use it. you are supposed to use sudo
[01:23] <mike1o> darksoule, root is disabled in ubuntu
[01:23] <Cyrano-Octavious> i jsut installed ubuntu and when i turn on my computer i get an error loading operating system message but if i put in any kinda of boot disk and cancel going into the boot grub will load and then load ubuntu anyone know what this could be
[01:23] <dabaR> jmg: I do not know, but there is a /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, did you read that file?
[01:23] <l90bpm> lugod- you still there?
[01:24] <jmg> dabaR: yes and its not very useful
[01:24] <jmg> dabaR: neither is the init script
[01:24] <dabaR> Enverex: run top in a console, maybe it will tell you what is running.
[01:24] <captstevenhiller> dabar: i keep getting an error message saying that c compilier cannot create excecutables
[01:24] <frosty> anyone in here tell me how I can get ubuntu to recognize my second hard drive?
[01:24] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: did you install the build-essential package?
[01:25] <meinnameisthase> hi, i'd like to use a beamer with ubuntu, it works with the wrong operating system, but it doesnt work with ubuntu
[01:25] <Wybiral> There is a programming channel btw.... #ubuntu-programming
[01:25] <matt____> my alacarte doesn't work right, it can't add menu items or delete them, i'm using edgy.
[01:25] <dabaR> !fstab
[01:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:25] <Kazero> Whats the gnome IRC client called?
[01:25] <Cod1> ok
[01:25] <Cod1> umm
[01:25] <dabaR> xchat-gnome
[01:25] <Amaranth> Kazero: xchat-gnome
[01:25] <captstevenhiller> dabar: how would i go about that
[01:25] <Amaranth> matt____: run it from a terminal and look for errors
[01:25] <frosty> what editor do I use ( I know nothing about this stuff, completely new to linux)
[01:25] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:25] <Cod1> who wants to help me compile the newest version of alsa?
[01:26] <matt____> Amaranth: i always run it from terminal, hold on....
[01:26] <captstevenhiller> thanks
[01:26] <VSpike> frosty: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:26] <matt____> Amaranth: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/gtk-2.0/bonobo/__init__.py: inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation
[01:26] <ant> frosty : if you read the page that was given to you it'll tell you how.
[01:26] <captstevenhiller> does that have to be in my program directory?
[01:27] <frosty> sorry the font on here is too small and I havent found a way to change it yet, thanks
[01:27] <matt____> Amaranth: does that mean anything to you???
[01:27] <Leibnew> Alguien habla espaol?
[01:27] <am_rods> any wireless network manager you can recommend me?
[01:27] <captstevenhiller> dabar: now its saying i need to install the flex package
[01:27] <ant> !es | Leibnew
[01:27] <ubotu> Leibnew: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:27] <matt____> Leibnew: hablo espanol a veces.
[01:28] <Amaranth> matt____: that's harmless
[01:28] <Leibnew> matt puede hablar en privado?
[01:28] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: show all errors on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:28] <Amaranth> matt____: and not even a warning in alacarte but in something it uses :)
[01:28] <matt____> Amaranth: thats all it gives me, if i try to add a menu item, it should come up with something else sholdn't it.
[01:28] <Tom_Kun> wols: ls
[01:28] <Amaranth> !es | Leibnew
[01:28] <captstevenhiller> ok, one second
[01:28] <ubotu> Leibnew: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:28] <Tom_Kun> bah :)
[01:28] <am_rods> yo tambien hablo espanol
[01:28] <Amaranth> matt____: it should
[01:28] <Leibnew> gracias thanks you
[01:28] <Tom_Kun> wols: if you figure out a good way of how to progress, feel free to comment. Other than that, I'll be looking around for a solution
[01:29] <Leibnew> #ubuntu
[01:29] <wols> Tom_Kun: easy. load the driver manually
[01:29] <matt____> Leibnew: you habloe espanol mucho, soy en un clase de espanol cuatro en estados unidos, soy un america.
[01:29] <ant> #ubuntu-es
[01:29] <l90bpm> question on VNC:  maybe that is what you were meaning but I meant to ask you is it possible to create it on both machines? For instance, send from machine a to b one day and from b to a the next day?
[01:29] <Amaranth> Alright, no more spanish here. :) The rules have been explained.
[01:29] <wols> then configure it all manually (via /etc/network/interfaces)
[01:29] <Cyrano-Octavious> i jsut installed ubuntu and when i turn on my computer i get an error loading operating system message but if i put in any kinda of boot disk and cancel going into the boot grub will load and then load ubuntu anyone know what this could be any help please pm
[01:29] <am_rods> me parece que no, que no hablas muy bien el espanol :P
[01:29] <Leibnew> soy nuevo en esto del ubuntu, como puedo entrar a este canal #ubuntu?
[01:30] <captstevenhiller> dabar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11585/ <-thats the last line i ran. the build-essential went fine so i didnt include it.
[01:30] <darksoule> hmmmm.... also, emerge is not recognized... is that disabled too?
[01:30] <dabaR> Leibnew: /j #ubuntu-es
[01:30] <am_rods> any wireless network manager you can recommend me?
[01:30] <bh_> anyone know why /dev/hda is now /dev/sda?
[01:30] <Zenerek> how do you change permissions for multiple files?
[01:30] <wols> bh_: cause the kernel changed
[01:30] <Leibnew> gracias
[01:30] <Tom_Kun> wols: sounds like loads of fun
[01:30] <wols> bh_: libata
[01:31] <matt____> Amaranth: when i run alacarte, should i sudo it?
[01:31] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: sudo aptitude install flex
[01:31] <ant> am_rods : network-admin works
[01:31] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: I gotta run.
[01:31] <Amaranth> matt____: Under no circumstances should you ever run alacarte under sudo
[01:31] <mike1o> are TWAIN scanners usable in ubuntu?
[01:31] <bh_> wols: so hdparm does not (fully) work anymore. I.e. I can't set 32 bit I/O
[01:31] <matt____> Amaranth: i don't, however it didn't seem to pop up any messages when i was adding or anything
[01:32] <captstevenhiller> ok
[01:32] <captstevenhiller> thanks for your help
[01:32] <VSpike> mike1o: TWAIN is not I don't think, but scanners certainly are
[01:32] <VSpike> mike1o: you need SANE
[01:32] <wols> bh_: shouldn't change anything. unless it now uses the wrong driver for your ide controller
[01:32] <Leibnew> Alguien que sepa hablar espaol y que tenga conocimientos sobre wep..y redes q m de privado gracias...
[01:32] <l90bpm> Question on VNC -  Is it possible to create it on both machines? For instance, send from machine a to b one day and from b to a the next day?
[01:32] <wols> !es
[01:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:33] <philstar> how can I shut down vino-server?
[01:33] <wols> !sane mike1o
[01:33] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[01:33] <l90bpm> the breaker box..
[01:33] <l90bpm> just kidding
[01:33] <matt____> Amaranth: i can't get anything, heard of anyone else having problems with alacarte?
[01:34] <BigMike> Well I got good news and bad news. Turns out the boot disk I was using had supergrub on it. Ran the script and bada bing all is working and happy grubbiness. THe bad news is that it did indeed beef the embedded windows booter for booting direct to a movie dvd
[01:34] <Cod1> Does anyone know weather or not the newest version of Alsa is in usable testing version yet?
[01:34] <Cod1> ^^
[01:35] <Amaranth> matt____: I've never seen a problem like that before
[01:35] <Amaranth> matt____: I'm the developer
[01:36] <Moniker42> hey, i'm in a big mess of kde, kdm gdm kubuntu etc etc... i have gdm
[01:36] <Moniker42> but how do i revert to ubuntu gnome desktop?
[01:36] <matt____> Amaranth: well, when i try to add something, like america's army, i add an icon, a name, and the path to execute, it doesn't show up. however, i did manage to add tremolous the same way.
[01:36] <Amaranth> matt____: logout and back in
[01:36] <Moniker42> because at the moment all i have is a fractured kubuntu-desktop beause i tried to uninstalled kubuntu-desktop with apt-get
[01:36] <rmd> Moniker42, at the login screen, click the "session" button and choose "gnome session" from the menu
[01:36] <Amaranth> matt____: oh, wait
[01:36] <philstar> that is, how can I shut down vino-server remotely?
[01:36] <Amaranth> matt____: It's because you have a space in the name :/
[01:36] <rupcha> BTW, How can I get the gnome panel to offer higher screen resolutions? Max I can select is 1024x768. (Nvidia card)
[01:36] <Moniker42> rmd, you know........ i should've tried that :(
[01:37] <Cod1> Does anyone know weather or not the newest version of Alsa is in usable testing version yet?
[01:37] <rmd> Moniker42, make sure you tell it to save gnome desktop as the defauly
[01:37] <rmd> default*
[01:37] <matt____> Amaranth: really? what about like "Freecel Solitare", it has a space, and it works. is there anything i can do to fix it so i can?
[01:37] <Amaranth> matt____: it's a bug in alacarte
[01:37] <rmd> and for the love of god, get rid of the rest of the awful, awful kubuntu-desktop :)
[01:37] <Amaranth> matt____: it's fixed in feisty though ;)
[01:38] <am_rods> ant: network-admin is not in synaptic
[01:38] <bh_> got my /home on seperate disk. Need more space, so is it possible to change to LVM without erasing the disk?
[01:38] <matt____> Amaranth: ahh, alright, i just won't worry then, i can manage using "Army", instead of "America's Army" for another 4 weeks. lol, thanks, i really appreciate what this open source thing is doing keep up the good work!
[01:38] <ant> am_rods : it should come with a default ubuntu install, type gksu network-admin
[01:39] <bh_> if I buy an extra disk
[01:39] <Amaranth> matt____: if you name it "Army" then rename it it'll work
[01:39] <Hammwell> anyone able to install perl module Apache2::ModSSL ? I get weird errors, while ALL the other mod_perl stuff inside handlers with the other Apache2:: modules is humming along.
[01:39] <Berad> I downloaded MySQL-client, how do I run it :/
[01:39] <Amaranth> matt____: it's just that when you create it i used the Name as the filename and you can't use spaces in the filename
[01:40] <Berad> !mysql
[01:40] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:40] <[xDCDx] > what exactly determines which number is given to my eternet device? If I boot to via nfsroot, I get eth0; but if I boot to the local hard disk, using a similar initramfs and the same config files, I get eth1 as my network card. The weird thing is that I only have one network card
[01:40] <matt____> Amaranth: really? i have noticed in terminal it has problems with spaces, but you can fix it like /home/matt/Desktop/folder\ 1/whatever forward slashes you know, took me forever to figure that out. but thanks for the help
[01:41] <Cod1> I would ask two questions: 1) does the testing branch contain alsa version >= 1.0.8, and if so, 2) is the testing branch ready for use by non-developers
[01:42] <matt____> Amaranth: yep, it worked/ :)
[01:42] <Rio> i had ubuntu running with a http server and media wiki.  the power went out, now when i boot up ubuntu, the http server still runs, but mediawiki does not.  does this sound typical?  how would you go about fixing it?
[01:42] <phishy> what utility does the automounting of usb drives?
[01:42] <Zenerek> yeah had to do that \ thing in wine... well if you wanted anything with spaces in the path to run
[01:42] <mjr> phishy, gnome-volume-manager (if in gnome)
[01:43] <Slick> bye everyone!
[01:43] <Slick> x
[01:43] <bh_> Cod1: 1. alsa 1.0.12
[01:43] <phishy> mjr: i rely on my usb drives for backups, but sometimes they mount in different orders
[01:43] <phishy> mjr: is there a way to solve that?
[01:43] <Cod1> 1.0.12 is the newest?
[01:44] <Cod1> and is it abailable
[01:44] <bh_> Cod1: ready for use. It works for me, but it's beta... So you know, no guarantees
[01:44] <Cod1> available**
[01:44] <Cod1> cool man
[01:44] <Cod1> do you think you can give me a link
[01:44] <Cod1> to get it
[01:44] <Cod1> im a newb
[01:44] <mjr> phishy, give the drives' filesystems labels, then they mount under /media/label
[01:45] <Rio> im also looking for a good site for new computers.  system76 is one, do you guys know of any others?
[01:45] <amphi> can someone tell me what version of alsa is in 7.04 ?
[01:45] <phishy> mjr: haha, awesome, thanks
[01:46] <RedRose> !addusers
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addusers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <bh_> Cod1: I assume you mean the beta for feisty. You can upgrade from previous versions
[01:46] <ant> RedRose : type man adduser
[01:46] <RedRose> I installed a text only system, and I want to create a new user, so I user the adduser command, and it says i can only have one or two logins
[01:46] <Cod1> how do i go about doing that
[01:47] <pisedoffcracker1> do virutal hard drives work
[01:47] <bh_> Cod1: which version are you using now
[01:47] <Cod1> 1.0.11 i think
[01:47] <RedRose> What is a system user?Like what privilages do they get?
[01:47] <bh_> Cod1: of ubuntu I meant.
[01:48] <Cod1> oh
[01:48] <Cod1> 6.10
[01:48] <Cod1> edgy eft
[01:48] <bh_> Cod1: sorry I assumed you where on Feisty. There is probably no easy way. You need to compile alsa yourself.
[01:48] <ant> RedRose : the account you made during installation gets all privelages with the "sudo" command
[01:48] <ant> !sudo RedRose
[01:48] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[01:50] <RedRose> ant: I got it, I was able to add user, it's not a power issue. But I'm reading the man pages and I see a system user, what is the difference between a system user and just a normal user?
[01:50] <ant> RedRose : i dunno, in here it'd probly be just a matter of opinion..
[01:51] <RedRose> Lol, Well no, I mean it's a legit option in adduser, to create a normal user Vs system user
[01:51] <ant> ask someone
[01:51] <ant> whats a system user?
[01:51] <[M] orpheus> Hi, on driconf it show that my video is a radeon 9500 but it's a 9600 xt... help?
[01:51] <ant> as opposed to a normal user?
[01:52] <mjr> [M] orpheus, that shouldn't really matter much...
[01:52] <[M] orpheus> mjr: i wold like to activate hyperz, but i can't find that option on driconf...
[01:52] <ant> it maybe an admin account
[01:52] <[M] orpheus> would*
[01:53] <mjr> [M] orpheus, well, I don't know what that is or if it's supported, let alone in the gui...
[01:53] <Zenerek> question, i want this other user to be able to rub wvdial and firestarter without sudo (this user is not a admin or has such rights) i have so far made this user part of the dialout group
[01:54] <[M] orpheus> mjr: I do think it's supported... but since it thinks that is other vga i cant ;(
[01:54] <ant> anyone know the definition of a 'system' user? is it admin?
[01:54] <bulmer> Zenerek: man visudo
[01:56] <ant> RedRose : i would bet on admin, but the word system seems real broad.
[01:57] <Stylee-FilipBole> where are the backgrounds stored?
[01:57] <RedRose> yeah
[01:58] <Stylee-FilipBole> anyone here know, wher are backgrounds stored?
[01:58] <pkh> we're trying to use tightvnc between computers that are behind nat'ing routers.  is there a way to get through?
[01:58] <ant> Stylee-FilipBole : assuming your talking about gnome i think :/home/user/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background
[01:58] <am_rods> how aircrack is used?
[01:58] <pkh> there about 10 computers behind one router and about 5 behing the other -- all have to be able to talk to the others...
[01:59] <ant> am_rods : type aircrack-ng -n64 or -n128 <dumpfile>
[01:59] <Stylee-FilipBole> ant: thanke you, you saved me time for shearching :)
[01:59] <Toma-> am_rods: you need to capture as many IVS as posssible then see if it can crack it
[01:59] <ant> Stylee-FilipBole : just use 'locate' to find stuff fast
[01:59] <rupcha> pkh: setup a vpn?
[02:00] <am_rods> ant: what does <dumpfile> stands for?
[02:00] <Stylee-FilipBole> ant: thanke you, I've tried to use the find function of nautilus, but I didn't find nothing
[02:01] <rmd> is there a file i can edit to add a line to erase and "touch" my .bash_history when i log off?
[02:01] <ant> am_rods : the dumpfile holds the IV packets "sniffed"
[02:01] <ant> Stylee-FilipBole : use updatedb before locate to update the file database.
[02:01] <bobo> is beta being released tonight?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> How likely is it that if I buy a laptop with bluetooth, without reasearching the chipset, that it will be supported?
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> bobo: For Feisty?  Tomorrow I think.  #ubuntu+1
[02:03] <ant> !hardware Jordan_U
[02:03] <Ax3> trying to compile eggdrop under ubuntu, but it can't find "tcl", anyone know the path?
[02:03] <ant> !hardware | Jordan_U
[02:03] <ubotu> Jordan_U: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:04] <LadyNikon> Jordan_U: if you buy something thats like brand new.. probably not so likely
[02:04] <LadyNikon> if you buy a laptop that is maybe a year old.. more likely
[02:05] <Toma-> is it possible to mix debian experimental stuff with ubuntu?
[02:05] <rmd> Jordan_U, I have a dell laptop from less than a year ago and have 0 problems.
[02:05] <progek> Hi room, anyone know how to run Beryl and Java Swing apps together? I always have to turn Beryl off for Java Swing apps to display. I tried a script fix on the forums but that didn't work.
[02:05] <Toma-> *without totally destorying the world*
[02:05] <Ax3> "tclsh" works in prompt, but when i do a ./configure it says "configure error: TCL cannot be found on this system"
[02:05] <Jordan_U> Toma-, Only if you use a source repo.
[02:05] <Ax3> anyone know a work around?
[02:05] <fbarcenas> Help! I followed the wifidocs in the wiki to get my BCM4306 working and none of those procedures worked! Yes, they enabled the card, but I can't connect to any the access points.
[02:05] <ant> progek : beryl hates java, try #ubuntu-effects
[02:05] <coxande> anybody have flash reader ENE ?
[02:05] <Toma-> Jordan_U: ahh right :) thanks.
[02:05] <progek> thanks ant
[02:06] <Jordan_U> fbarcenas, Have you tried wifi-radar?
[02:06] <rmd> or "iwlist <interface> scan"?
[02:06] <fbarcenas> Jordan_U,  yup.. even kwiki manager and many others..
[02:07] <ant> fbarcenas : i think i heard that problem being wide spread with broadcom
[02:07] <froyd> is anybody there using xwinwrap ?
[02:07] <Jordan_U> fbarcenas, Ok, are you using NDIS wrapper or fwcutter?
[02:07] <coxande> anybody have flash reader ENE ?
[02:08] <fbarcenas> Jordan_U,  fwcutter...  the card used to work fine with fwcutter before my hard drive died and I had to reload everything. I don't remember what I did so long ago to get it to work..
[02:08] <ant> !broadcom | fbarcenas
[02:08] <ubotu> fbarcenas: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:08] <PinkFloyd> Is there anyway I can get Ubuntu, etc on floppy disks to install on an old lappy with no CD-ROM drive?
[02:09] <Pelo> PinkFloyd,  did you check the dl page ?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, You can do a netinstall
[02:09] <lonran> anyone tells me a voip webcam client?
[02:09] <Madpilot> PinkFloyd, that'd be an impressive stack of floppies!
[02:09] <fbarcenas> PinkFloyd,  you better off using the USB pen drive install, I've heard others using..
[02:09] <Jordan_U> !install | PinkFloyd
[02:09] <ubotu> PinkFloyd: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:09] <bulmer> PinkFloyd: you have a server to provide net install?
[02:09] <Toma-> lonran: ekiga
[02:09] <fbarcenas> PinkFloyd, if does have USB right?
[02:09] <PinkFloyd> It has no USB
[02:09] <ant> PinkFloyd : use a usb disk
[02:09] <ant> oh
[02:09] <PinkFloyd> It's an IBM Thinkpad 760ED
[02:10] <Ax3> Again, im trying to configure eggdrop under ubuntu, i get an error because it can't see TCL. Can anyone assist?
[02:10] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, You can install on another machine and swap the drive
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: laptop
[02:10] <ant> netinstall with a wireless card.
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: no wireless
[02:10] <ant> ha
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> er
[02:10] <bulmer> Jordan_U: that technique wont work on laptops
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> ant: only floppy
[02:10] <wols> bulmer: it will
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> It has a CD-ROM drive but the BIOS doesnt recognize it
[02:11] <PinkFloyd> Wont boot from it
[02:11] <wols> might be hard to connect the laptop disk to a desktop but it will work
[02:11] <bulmer> ok it will if you have same models and specs
[02:11] <Pelo> Madpilot,  I remember my first computer  (that I owned)  floppies   dos:6  win 3.11 = 15,  mouse 2, various drivers 4, autocad 14 ,   Office 4.2  36 ,   I would spend 6 hrs  playing toaster
[02:11] <wols> PinkFloyd: use a bootfloppy for kernel then continue with the CD
[02:11] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, Then you may still be able to boot from it using a GRUB floppy, _may_
[02:11] <wols> PinkFloyd: but I dunno how you'd do that with ubuntu
[02:11] <PinkFloyd> wols: know where I can get a boot floppy?
[02:11] <PinkFloyd> Ive got WinNT on it now
[02:11] <wols> not with ubuntu. or as Jordan_U said, try a grub floppy
[02:11] <__mikem> I installed irb1.8 and I can't access it from the terminal
[02:12] <__mikem> whats going on?
[02:12] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, You can make one with Ubuntu from another machine
[02:12] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: How?
[02:12] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: Ive got Ubuntu on another machine
[02:12] <mike1o> !clone
[02:12] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[02:12] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, I believe there is a GRUB-floppy command
[02:13] <Jordan_U> PinkFloydt, Yup, just: sudo grub-floppy /dev/fd0 should do it
[02:13] <Pelo> could PinkFloyd  unpack the cd to a hdd and boot the other comp from that for his install ?
[02:13] <Ax3> maybe this will help:
[02:13] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: I'll try that
[02:13] <ant> maybe from a serial hd?
[02:14] <Ax3> #
[02:14] <Ax3> # settings that can be used to configure your bot.
[02:14] <Ax3> # This is a sample Eggdrop configuration file which includes all possible
[02:14] <Ax3> #
[02:14] <Ax3> # $Id: eggdrop.conf,v 1.37 2004/05/27 06:29:45 wcc Exp $
[02:14] <Ax3> #
[02:14] <Ax3> # ^- This should contain a fully qualified path to your Eggdrop executable.
[02:14] <Ax3> #!/usr/eggdrop/eggdrop
[02:14] <__mikem> tonyyarusso, I have a bit of a problem
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> !paste | Ax3
[02:14] <ubotu> Ax3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:14] <Whitor> Hi.. I'm not sure if this is off topic... but after installing beryl, I cant move any of my windows. I googled the issue and found someone else with the same problem... they explaned how to fix it and it worked!... great, now, I just reinstalled using a different install image (ubuntu ultimate 1.3) and the same problem occured... this time, the previous fix doesn't work. Any ideas?
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: what sort?
[02:14] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, But you will need to learn some stuff about GRUB to do it.
[02:14] <__mikem> I tried installing interactive ruby, but when I type irb at the terminal, nothing happens
[02:15] <PriceChild> !beryl | Whitor
[02:15] <ubotu> Whitor: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:15] <__mikem> it says command not found
[02:15] <bulmer> is it in your $PATH
[02:15] <Whitor> ubotu:  Thanks... I understand what beryl is
[02:15] <PriceChild> Whitor, read.
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: dpkg -L irb | grep bin
[02:16] <PriceChild> Whitor, "Help in #ubuntu-effects"
[02:16] <Whitor> ok sorry
[02:16] <PriceChild> Whitor, no problem, and btw ubotu is a bot ;)
[02:16] <wols> __mikem: "nothing happens" and "command not found" are VERY different things
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> Ax3: Try again now - I think your buffer's cleared
[02:16] <Whitor> heh I see that
[02:16] <ax4> hey guys it's ax3
[02:16] <ax4> i wanna apologize
[02:16] <__mikem> wols yes I realized that I mispoke and corrected myself
[02:16] <ax4> freenx copied the terminal output, and not my rafb.net/paste
[02:16] <ant> no need, just use pastebin
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> Ax3: Hey, no problem.  I just unmuted you; just trying to stop the paste.  Try 'gain.  :)
[02:17] <__mikem> tonyyarusso, the output was /usr/bin/irb1.8
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> ax4: rather
[02:17] <ax4> before i knew it i was lagged up over here, couldn't stop it lol
[02:17] <ax4> ok thanks
[02:17] <ax4> again sorry
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: so try irb1.8 then?
[02:17] <__mikem> I did
[02:17] <__mikem> it said command not found
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: and still not found?
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> weird....
[02:17] <bulmer> ax4 you got freeNX working? can you give some tips to get it going ?
[02:17] <__mikem> And this happened for several other packages I tried to install.
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: what if you run /usr/bin/irb1.8 explicitly
[02:18] <__mikem> tonyyarusso irb1.8 is a dirrectory
[02:18] <ax4> bulmer, i don't recall really having to wrestle with it at all, simply worked
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: oooh, 'ls'?
[02:19] <bulmer> ax4: which key did you used and where you have it installed?
[02:19] <__mikem> wait nvm, I was typing something else
[02:19] <__mikem> yes that worked
[02:19] <bulmer> ax4: i have difficulty getting a client to work with it
[02:20] <__mikem> tonyyarusso, thanks for your help
[02:21] <ant> the room is quiet..
[02:21] <joincamp> if if change the mount point of a drive, will that break my symbolic links to it?
[02:22] <ax4> bulmer, honestly i don't quite remember, the installation was too smooth, i recall using NoMachines' - wouldn't quote me on that though
[02:23] <bulmer> ax4 luckky you!
[02:23] <ax4> bulmer, that was after wrestling with vnc for hours upon hours
[02:23] <ax4> bulmer, i paid my dues heh
[02:24] <Pelo> how do I go about getting the fonts in   /home/jean/.fonts  to show up in my font selections dialog for gnome ?
[02:24] <bulmer> ax4 ahh okay
[02:24] <ax4> ok, my eggdrop problem, involving the lack of TCL:
[02:24] <ax4> http://rafb.net/p/tEzsb232.html
[02:25] <ax4> bulmer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX i think got me going
[02:25] <jrib> Pelo: logging out and returning should do it.  Or just run 'fc-cache'
[02:25] <byen> Guys , has anyone installed ubuntu on a preinstalled pc (vista)
[02:26] <Pelo> thanks jrib
[02:26] <evoxy> how do i set the wallpaper?
[02:26] <byen> i am ready to .. but having no os disc and reading posts sayig that vista becomes ub-bootable has been bothering me
[02:26] <jrib> evoxy: right click on the desktop > set desktop background
[02:26] <ax4> bulmer, also for the saveas packages - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:27] <Pelo> what's the default font in windows xp ? tahoma ?
[02:27] <ax4> ms sans serif?
[02:28] <SmileyChris> times new roman? :P
[02:28] <katani> ms sans serif
[02:28] <ax4> bbiab
[02:28] <Chapayev> got a xbuntu screen res issue - cant step down w/o it login out (actually same issue in ubuntu too) 6.0
[02:29] <[NT] > sss
[02:29] <[NT] > sssssss
[02:29] <Sir_HaL> #part
[02:29] <[NT] > lol
[02:30] <Chapayev> NT?
[02:30] <cyris> hey everyone
[02:30] <shaun_> has anyone been able to set up a ntp server successfully?
[02:30] <shaun_> i'mhaving problems with it
[02:31] <Chapayev> so any clue for how to set lower screen res? (dont tell me about the panel)
[02:31] <Squillis> evening
[02:32] <Pelo> Chapayev, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:32] <waxyfresh> xserver randomly restarts for no reason,ive tried threating it but that dosent seem to have any effect...
[02:32] <Squillis> the ubuntu install can't use an ext3 partition created by partition magic for /, says no root filesystem
[02:33] <Squillis> so, i let ubuntu reformat that space, and now partition magic can't open because the partition table is tweaked
[02:33] <waxyfresh> Squillis: what file system are you useing?
[02:33] <Squillis> but both os's work
[02:33] <Squillis> ntfs in windows xp, and ext3 in linux
[02:33] <Supercross> can someone assist me in getting my linksys wusb54gv4 to work with edgy...i have been at it for like 3 hrs and no luck
[02:33] <Chapayev> super - i was messing w/ wifi alot lately
[02:33] <Cod1> sry
[02:33] <Cod1> you get it?
[02:34] <Pelo> Squillis,  if you are booting the live cd, use gparted ( in system > admin) to set it to boot
[02:34] <waxyfresh> Supercross: thats a routr right? type 127.0.0.1 into your browser window and see what happens
[02:34] <shaun_> anyone?
[02:34] <waxyfresh> Squillis: no idea
[02:34] <Squillis> pelo, it's the dekstop iso
[02:34] <shaun_> set up ntp server?
[02:34] <Pelo> Supercross,  look up the model number in the forum
[02:34] <Chapayev> i got gprs thru cingular - and a bluetooth link to the [phone
[02:34] <katani> Who was asking about the NTP server?
[02:34] <Supercross> no waxyfresh thats a usb wifi adapter
[02:34] <[NT] > NT NT
[02:34] <Squillis> pelo, also the ext3 partition is in the middle of the drive
[02:34] <dumbdumb> I want to Know if anyone can help me?   I have a laptop hardrive but no laptop, and i want to transfer that data onto a friends regular pc harddrive...is this possible?
[02:35] <Chapayev> super i was trying with a Netgear WG111v2
[02:35] <bleck> hey everyone, can anyone explain what hd0 in grub would be when you have an IDE & PATA drive... so the IDE is HDB, the PATA drive is SDA, would HD0 be the SDA or the HDB?
[02:35] <katani> shaun_ - Have you installed the NTP server packages yet?
[02:35] <shaun_> katani: yeah
[02:35] <Chapayev> but in 6.06 - i saw that wifi shld be easier (drivers wise) in 6.10
[02:35] <Pelo> Squillis,  the position of the partition doesn't matter, get back into partition magic and make it a boot partition then ,  ( but I can't help with that bit )
[02:35] <waxyfresh> Supercross: no idea sorry
[02:35] <dumbdumb> I want to Know if anyone can help me?   I have a laptop hardrive but no laptop, and i want to transfer that data onto a friends regular pc harddrive...is this possible?
[02:36] <katani> sean_ - just a sec...
[02:36] <froyd> do you guys remember where can i enable the root to login into gnome ?
[02:36] <shaun_> katani: okay
[02:36] <wols> dumbdumb: yes it is
[02:36] <Jrabbit> dumbdumb,  yes
[02:36] <dumbdumb> is there a better channel to ask this question?
[02:36] <Squillis> wait, so if i make it bootable in pmagic before i boot the live cd, it will recognize it as a root partition?
[02:36] <waxyfresh> !root
[02:36] <wols> dumbdumb: #hardware
[02:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:36] <funkyHat> dumbdumb, yeah you can get a mini IDE to IDE converter... and just plug it in :)
[02:36] <Jrabbit> dumbdumb, PM me
[02:36] <Pelo> bleck,  I beleive HD0 is the boot hdd selected in the bios,  but you might have better luck asking in #grub
[02:36] <bh_> dumbdumb: either get a special cable, or a usb harddrive thingy
[02:36] <Supercross> I don't get it....it shows a wireless connection, but it never activates....I tried using ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant and nothing looks any different than before
[02:36] <bleck> pelo: thanks, good idea =)
[02:36] <froyd> i rember seein a option to enable the root to login into the gnome ....
[02:37] <wols> bleck: ide IS PATA
[02:37] <Pelo> Squillis,   can you boot the live cd or not ?
[02:37] <waxyfresh> xserver randomly restarts for no reason,ive tried threating it but that dosent seem to have any effect...
[02:37] <funkyHat> froyd, why would you want to do that?
[02:37] <wols> and whatever the BIOS thinks is the first hdd, that is hd0
[02:37] <Squillis> pelo, surely
[02:37] <froyd> a friend of mine wants to know it
[02:37] <AaronfromChina> join #ubuntu_cn
[02:37] <froyd> funkyHat: but there is this option right ? i wouldnt do it
[02:37] <Chapayev>  pelo - how do i edit the x.conf to reset res ?
[02:37] <waxyfresh> froyd: its a very bad idea
[02:37] <Pelo> Squillis,   boot the live cd  , menu > system > admin > gparted,   select the partition you want ,  right click ,  set to boot ( or what ever the option is called)
[02:37] <bleck> wols: meant SATA
[02:37] <Sir_HaL> hello.  I want a remote solution to connect to my ubuntu box (at home) from my work (winxp).  I currently use vnc ("remote desktop") over ssh but not only is it *very* slow, but cannot vnc into the login screen.  any suggestions on what to try?
[02:38] <froyd> waxyfresh: i know its not for me :D
[02:38] <bleck> just woke up :P
[02:38] <Chapayev> super - did u have ndiswrpr 1.38?
[02:38] <wols> bleck: depends on your BIOS
[02:38] <funkyHat> froyd, yes there is an option in the gdm setup utility, if I were you I wouldn't tell your friend though ;-)
[02:38] <wols> whatever is the first harddisk is hd0
[02:38] <Pelo> Chapayev,   you edit it to set the resolution you want available from  menu > system > prefs >screen rez
[02:38] <bleck> wols: so then first bootable HD would be HD0?
[02:38] <Supercross> whatever one comes w/ edgy on the cd
[02:38] <wols> bleck: yes
[02:38] <Chapayev> super - i think u shld make sure to compile the latest ndiswrpr
[02:38] <Pelo> Chapayev,  by default it boots to the highest res available I beleive
[02:38] <bulmer> Sir_HaL: try freeNX and once you got it working share the technique to get it working
[02:38] <bleck> wols: thanks!
[02:38] <froyd> well he says he wants to risk it just cuz he hats copyin files through terminal
[02:39] <katani> sean_ - Have you configured the NTP server config file yet?
[02:39] <shaun_> katani: yeah
[02:39] <funkyHat> froyd, why does he need to be root to copy files?
[02:39] <romeo_> How do you make the trash to be as an icon on your desktop? I made a link to trash:/ and i got the trashcan. Problem is, the icon shows it as if it had something inside it, no matter if its empty or not.. Ay idea how to change that?
[02:39] <Alonea> bash ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy ---this is where my install fails. I will get an output as soon as the pastebin site I use starts working again..bah
[02:39] <Supercross> but on the ubuntuhelp.com site it says this card words "out of the box"
[02:39] <shaun_> katani: i just changed one line, to allow the subnet to access it
[02:39] <froyd> funkyHat: gdm setup ? where is it ?
[02:39] <Sir_HaL> thanks, bulmer.  i'll look on the internet right now, but isn't the server for freeNX or the windows package (or something?) not free?
[02:39] <shaun_> katani: i added "broadcast 192.168.10.255"
[02:39] <Chapayev> super - and u believe ?
[02:39] <katani> sean_: OK where are you having problems then. I assume the server is running right now?
[02:39] <waxyfresh> froyd: i think its in the help section onyour computer
[02:39] <froyd> funkyHat: i dont really know what he means  hes just asking me i told him theres a way but its sooo not recommended
[02:40] <bh_> romeo_: start gcon-editor find nautilus under apps, there is an option
[02:40] <bulmer> Sir_HaL: client is free and so as the server
[02:40] <froyd> he wants to know it anyway
[02:40] <waxyfresh> froyd: bad its a horrible idea all teh same
[02:40] <Chapayev> and u shld get the driver from sourceforge too - not the cd
[02:40] <Supercross> i believe its not working
[02:40] <WhiteNoise> how can I indicate I want new user home directories set to 0700 (and not world readable!!?)
[02:40] <Chapayev> excatly - so believe u can make it
[02:40] <Sir_HaL> bulmer, nice!  thx....  <off to surf...>
[02:40] <Supercross> and I have no access to a wired connection and my kernal hangs so often its not funny
[02:40] <shaun_> katani: yeah the server is running, i restarted it, but on the client when i do 'ntpdate 192.168.10.77' it says no suitable server found for syncing
[02:41] <katani> sean_: hmm...
[02:41] <romeo_> bh_: I am new to linux.. What is gcon editor? and what is nautilus? :D
[02:41] <funkyHat> froyd, sounds like a permissions issue with a windows formatted disc, maybe? he should really configure fstab properly rather than use sudo all the while anyway (if that's the issue)
[02:41] <phpnub|away> I'm working on a firewall script and need to set the default route to the same device every time is there a easy way to do that?
[02:41] <funkyHat> froyd, anyway... login screen setup
[02:41] <Chapayev> pelo -= was i clear?
[02:41] <bh_> romeo_: ok. open a terminal. type gconf-editor
[02:41] <Pelo> Chapayev,   pm
[02:42] <sesamebike> WhiteNoise: note sure you might be able to do it with a system wide umask
[02:42] <bh_> romeo_: in the right side there is a list view with apps as the first i think
[02:42] <Corvo[666] > hi, i'm italian
[02:42] <froyd> yah
[02:42] <romeo_> bh_: Command unkown
[02:42] <shaun_> katani: any idea?
[02:42] <froyd> funkyHat: thx dde
[02:42] <Corvo[666] > what's time is it?
[02:42] <Chapayev> anyone have trouble stepping the screen res down - like it logs out on you?
[02:42] <froyd> dude
[02:42] <funkyHat> romeo_, nautilus is the thing that displays folders and the icons on the desktop (file manager) :)
[02:42] <StThomas> how do i know if my linux ubuntu has firewall
[02:42] <robdeman> hey folks. I have a werid problem. I installed Ubuntu 6.06 server LTS. It seems that my machine responds once every whilw ith a slight delay. It happens locally aswell when connected though ssh. Any ideas what could cause the delay? its quite ranond, sometimes teh machine freezes for a few seoncds while entering commands on the commandline...?
[02:42] <romeo_> funkyHat: Ah okey thanks =)
[02:42] <StThomas> or if i have a currently working firewall
[02:42] <[NT] > What is the country?
[02:42] <bh_> romeo_: really are you sure you typed it correctly
[02:42] <Corvo[666] > yeah
[02:43] <bh_> romeo_:  gconf-editor that is
[02:43] <bh_> romeo_: try typing gconf and then press tab twice. What do you see?
[02:43] <romeo_> bh_: $ gconf-editor bash: gconf-editor: command not found
[02:44] <funkyHat> StThomas, if you installed a firewall, you have one. If not you don't, but ubuntu is inherently secure even without a firewall
[02:44] <StThomas> I am trying to run a tagcloud generator using WINE
[02:44] <romeo_> bh_: i see gconf-merge-tree gconf-schemas gconftool gconftool2
[02:44] <bh_> romeo_: ok, donno if this work, but have you tried just dragging the trash icon from the panel to the destkop?
[02:44] <StThomas> i encourter error and one of the possible reason is firewall, tht is why i am asking
[02:44] <Chapayev> funky - doesnt one install from the live cd - i think he wants to know wheres the settings for it?
[02:45] <zen> If I have apci, do I need apm?
[02:45] <romeo_> bh_: Nothing
[02:46] <Alonea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[02:46] <StThomas> yes Chapayev do you know where?
[02:46] <katani> sean_: What line did you say you added to your NTP config? "broadcast"
[02:46] <shaun_> katani: yeah 'broadcast 192.168.10.255`
[02:47] <katani> sean_: OK try commenting out that line, and restarting the NTP server.
[02:47] <Moosejaw> anyone have any tips on speeding up torrents with azureus?
[02:47] <ph8> hi all - whenever i upgrade my kernel (edgy stable, latest) - something (apt?) overwrites my grub menu.lst - this wouldn't be that much of a problem if it didn't specify hd(0,0) instead of hd(0,1) - and hence cause a crash on reboot! Does anyone know where i can change this setting?
[02:47] <bulmer> StThomas: what that possible meant is if you had a firewall that maybe blocking ports, find out if any is block by iptables -vL  should be no rules
[02:47] <Alonea> thing is, it installed fine before, but after I messed up and adept got rid of it, I have not been able to reinstall it
[02:47] <bh_> romeo_: ok then type apt-get install gconf-editor in a term.
[02:48] <bh_> romeo_: sorry 'sudo apt-get install gconf-editor'
[02:48] <Chapayev> is there a panel for the firewall settings ??
[02:48] <Chapayev> (with all due respect to the command line)
[02:49] <bh_> romeo_: or use synaptic to find and install gconf-editor
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> !firestarter | Chapayev
[02:49] <ubotu> Chapayev: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:49] <shaun_> katani: okay it says that it found the server and ther eis a pretty big offset, then it says no server suitable for sync found
[02:49] <rmd> so... if i have a dvd... and i make an .iso of that dvd to store on my computer... and then i loopmount that... should it play in VLC or mplayer?
[02:49] <shark-1> what engine would be a good gtk engine to theme for?
[02:49] <Rynoo> how do I install KDE on ubuntu? sudo apt-get install kde ??
[02:49] <shaun_> katani: that was with `ntpdate -q 192.168.10.77`
[02:49] <rmd> Rynoo, "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:49] <romeo_> bh_: Ok i am now in gconf-editor
[02:49] <jetscreamer> Rynoo: that would probably give you a bloated install, try rmd's first
[02:50] <bh_> romeo_: ok find apps and then nautilus
[02:50] <romeo_> bh_ Ok found it
[02:50] <katani> shaun_: have you synced the server clock with another NTP server?
[02:50] <Rynoo> I've tried that
[02:50] <eighta> greetings everyone!!!
[02:50] <bh_> romeo_: under desktiop there is an option to enable trash on desktop
[02:50] <Rynoo> couldn't get gdm nor kdm started
[02:50] <eighta> i need Help!!
[02:51] <bh_> romeo_: it's trash_icon_visible
[02:51] <eighta> how can put a mirror of ubuntu in my LAN???
[02:51] <SongOfTheWeave> just go to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[02:51] <romeo_> bh_: Ok, ticked it..
[02:51] <noodles12> in vmplayer, How do i set-up the networking in the .vmx file so that the guest OS will have the same identity as the host OS ?
[02:51] <SongOfTheWeave> It's easier to browse the packages than at the command line
[02:51] <bh_> romeo_: should show on the desktop now
[02:52] <shaun_> katani: same error even after i sync the server
[02:52] <Dougie> ts
[02:52] <jetscreamer> !mirror
[02:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:53] <romeo_> bh_: Hmm it doesn't .. Is nautlius only for gnome looks? I am use KDE..
[02:53] <katani> shaun_: hmmmm... I wish i wasn't stuck on a Windows box right now, I'd try to set up an NTP server myself to see how its done.
[02:53] <Mirth> Anyone know of a good image mounting program??
[02:53] <addams> If I install apache and run it without doing any configuring, am I open to attack?
[02:53] <Mirth> for ISO's and stuff?
[02:53] <bh_> romeo_: yes its for gnome.
[02:53] <jetscreamer> mount
[02:53] <shaun_> katani: :/
[02:54] <bh_> romeo_: dunno about kde, sorry
[02:54] <bimberi> !mountiso | Mirth
[02:54] <ubotu> Mirth: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:54] <Madpilot> addams, not really, apache is pretty locked down by default
[02:54] <katani> shaun_: I'm afraid I can't help you much more, my linux box is messed up right now. Sorry :(
[02:54] <shaun_> katani: thats cool
[02:54] <romeo_> bh_: Ah okey. Oh well thanks anyway
[02:54] <bh_> romeo_: perhaps try the #kubuntu channel?
[02:55] <eimajenthat> is their a channel for the listen media player?
[02:55] <romeo_> bh_: I will thanks
[02:55] <shaun_> katani: if you do find out msg me, i'm always on freenode under the name "keram"
[02:55] <cwmajors> I have an Athlon 64 3500+ with dual nvidia 6600 video cards in sli mode. The Feisty Herd 5 disk will get me to a terminal prompt. How do I start gnome from there?
[02:55] <bradj> Hrm, I'm not fond of x-chat :/
[02:56] <bh_> bradj: then try xchat :)
[02:56] <jetscreamer> cwmajors: startx maybe
[02:56] <eimajenthat> bradj: what do you use?
[02:56] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: You likely need to get the kernel module for your video card
[02:56] <bradj> Normally I use plain mIRC
[02:56] <bradj> on windows
[02:56] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: yeah try startx first that will be diagnostic
[02:56] <Alboyta> f
[02:56] <Alboyta> fda
[02:56] <Alboyta> fdsa
[02:56] <Alboyta> sdfa
[02:56] <Alboyta> dfs
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <Alboyta> fds
[02:56] <Alboyta> sdf
[02:56] <Alboyta> sdf
[02:56] <Alboyta> sdf
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <SongOfTheWeave> Any mods around?
[02:56] <Alboyta> fd
[02:56] <cwmajors> thank you. Trying startx now.
[02:57] <Alboyta> df
[02:57] <Alboyta> sdfsdfdf
[02:57] <Alboyta> dfd
[02:57] <Alboyta> df
[02:57] <eilker> !ops
[02:57] <Alboyta> f
[02:57] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[02:57] <Alonea> really. mods, ban please!
[02:57] <bh_> bradj: I meant xchat-gnome
[02:57] <Alboyta> f
[02:57] <cafuego_> !ops
[02:57] <Alboyta> f
[02:57] <Alboyta> f
[02:57] <bradj> bh-, Yea that's what I'm using
[02:57] <nomasteryoda> thanks
[02:57] <Alonea> arigatou~
[02:57] <bh_> bradj: ahh, ok. Then what about xchat...
[02:57] <jetscreamer> try just regular xchat i didn't like xchat-gnome either
[02:57] <SongOfTheWeave> I'm using xchat-gnome right now, hadn't used it before, it's setup different than I'm used to, but it's pretty customizable
[02:58] <bradj> Idk, what about it?  Is there a big difference b/w xchat-gnome and xchat?
[02:58] <Alonea> ok, I was trying to fix something else and anyways, adept removed fglrx...and now i can't get it back. I did sudo apt-get remove fglrx-kernel-source fglrx-kernel fglrx-kernel-$(uname -r) and some other things to try to completely remove it, but I still can't get it to reinstall now. I get this now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[02:58] <cwmajors> It tells me that the server is already active for display 0.
[02:58] <SongOfTheWeave> not imo
[02:58] <bradj> xchat-gnome seems very limited :/
[02:58] <SongOfTheWeave> ime that is
[02:58] <Madpilot> bradj, xchat is usable, xchat-gnome is crippled
[02:58] <shark-1> what engine would be a good gtk engine to theme for?
[02:58] <bradj> BAH!
[02:58] <tech13> Is there a website that lists which hardware uses which kernel options?  I would like to compile my own kernel and trim down the drivers I don't use and I'm not sure which ones I actually do use.   ("lspci" doesn't show names that match items in "make menuconfig")
[02:58] <bh_> bradj: xchat has more feature I would say
[02:58] <bradj> How do I get just normal xchat?
[02:58] <SongOfTheWeave> Heh yeah, I agree.
[02:58] <rmd> If I make an .iso from a movie on dvd, can i mount it and view it under ubuntu?
[02:58] <jetscreamer> shark-1: i'm not sure but i don't think you understand the question
[02:58] <SongOfTheWeave> xchat-gnome seems good enough for my purposes atm however
[02:58] <jetscreamer> yes rmd
[02:58] <nomasteryoda> bradj, apt-get install xchat
[02:59] <bradj> How do you unistall apps?
[02:59] <jetscreamer> rmd some players you don't even need to mount it
[02:59] <Moosejaw> how do i remove an item from one of the menus?  i went into edit menu, and it doesnt give me the remove option
[02:59] <LjL> bradj: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[02:59] <rmd> jetscreamer, so all i have to do is mkisofs?
[02:59] <bradj> thanks LjL
[02:59] <shark-1> jetscreamer, ? i dont get what your saying
[02:59] <bradj> brb :P
[02:59] <crdlb> Moosejaw, does it let you uncheck it?
[02:59] <Moosejaw> nope
[02:59] <ardchoille> Moosejaw: Uncheck the box next to the item and it won't show in the menus
[02:59] <jetscreamer> dd if=/dev/dvd of=movie.iso unless it uses css or other encryption
[03:00] <mwalling_> what does the ubuntu logo mean in synaptic? i noticed that xchat-gnome has it, but xchat does not
[03:00] <Moosejaw> i see the check but it doesnt remove the check
[03:00] <cwmajors> Someone mentioned above that I need to get the kernel module for my video card (Nvidia 6600). Where can I find that? Also, startx tells me that "Server is already active for display 0."
[03:00] <rmd> jetscreamer, what if it uses css?
[03:00] <kazuka> hi
[03:00] <nomasteryoda> mwalling_, ubuntu packages
[03:00] <bh_> mwalling_: means it's an official ubuntu package
[03:00] <jetscreamer> rmd mencoder or others work with libdvdcss
[03:00] <bh_> mwalling_: i.e. supported
[03:00] <rmd> jetscreamer, thanks loads.  you're awesome
[03:00] <mwalling_> aah
[03:00] <bradj> wow this is a lot better
[03:00] <mwalling_> thankyou
[03:00] <jetscreamer> #mplayer
[03:00] <bradj> I think...
[03:00] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: goto repositories in synaptic and check universe and multiverse repositories
[03:00] <kazuka> anyone using plasma display for monitor here? I want to know if i can connect my PCI DVI CARD TO HDMI INPUT?
[03:01] <ardchoille> Moosejaw: Did you click on the checkmark itself?
[03:01] <Moosejaw> yes
[03:01] <noodles12> Is there a good reason why putting things in the fat32 partition from Ubuntu. XP takes at least a restart or two to be able to see it?
[03:01] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: then look for hmm.. whats it called... oh are you running feisty?
[03:01] <jetscreamer> xp shouldn't
[03:01] <cwmajors> Song: This is an installation problem. I'm trying to run off the live CD, and can't get to a GUI.
[03:01] <ardchoille> Moosejaw: The items in the menus are parsed from the items in /usr/share/applications. You can remove items from that folder and it will remove the item totally.
[03:01] <kazuka> anyone using plasma display for monitor here? I want to know if i can connect my PCI DVI CARD TO HDMI INPUT?
[03:01] <SongOfTheWeave> First try hitting ctrl+alt+F7
[03:01] <Moosejaw> thanks
[03:02] <cwmajors> Song: Yes, Feisty herd 5.
[03:02] <nomasteryoda> jetscreamer, if fat32 is not umounted properly, xp will barf and say the drive needs to be scanned ... in order to do that it has to rboot
[03:02] <cwmajors> Song: Black screen after ctrl-alt-f7.
[03:02] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: Wait, are you running the live CD right now and can't get a GUI?
[03:02] <jetscreamer> cwmajors: try /etc/init.d/gdm stop or something like that
[03:02] <cwmajors> Song: Yes. I am talking to you from a different computer. :)
[03:02] <noodles12> nomasteryoda: The thing is that XP can read the fat32 partition and all the contents except for the new files that i recently copied over.
[03:02] <Moosejaw> that worked
[03:03] <Moosejaw> thank you
[03:03] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: Do you have more than one monitor connected to the pc with the problem?
[03:03] <Moosejaw> now...can anyone recommend a good bittorrent client other than azureus?
[03:03] <noodles12> ktorrent or utorrent?
[03:03] <jetscreamer> rtorrent...
[03:03] <Moosejaw> do they all work well with ubuntu?
[03:04] <jetscreamer> i don't know that utorrent does
[03:04] <rmd> utorrent under wine isn't bad
[03:04] <jetscreamer> ah wine
[03:04] <rmd> deluge is nice
[03:04] <cwmajors> Song: No, but the computer with the problem has dual nvidia 6600's running in sli mode.
[03:04] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search torrent
[03:04] <bradj> Much better ^^
[03:04] <crdlb> rtorrent is the fastest and lightest client on linux
[03:04] <Moosejaw> cool
[03:04] <Moosejaw> thanks crdls
[03:04] <Moosejaw> b
[03:05] <crdlb> but it's terminal based
[03:05] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: Feisty had a feature that I found worked for my 7600 that was a super easy way to get the restricted modules I needed for the nvidia cards but I'm not sure how to access it from the command line
[03:05] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: if you run ps aux do you see any gdm/xdg/x11 stuff going on?
[03:05] <cwmajors> Song: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start returns [fail]  instead of [ OK ] .
[03:06] <misfit_to1> not to start a flame, but which is better on Edgy EFT, compiz or beryl? with nvidia.
[03:06] <jetscreamer> stop
[03:06] <jetscreamer> x is running
[03:06] <zynergi> i updated the ram on my RC410L/800-M (V2.0).. now whenever i boot the pc up using onboard or pci-card vga i get no display..if i remove the mobo's battery for a minute, and remount it.., a display comes on when i boot the computer..bios tells me to set time/date, i do.. and i exit... then i loose display again
[03:06] <ravi_master> how is everyone?
[03:06] <bh_> misfit_to1: try both...
[03:06] <wols> zynergi: your BIOS probelms have nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:06] <wols> but what you need to do is set BIOS to init PCI display first
[03:06] <romeo_> Is it safe and is it possible to erase all the things in my cache? and how do i do it? It takes loads of hdd space
[03:06] <cyris> ravi_master: ah im doing alright, hows about you?
[03:07] <SongOfTheWeave> hm
[03:07] <wols> romeo_: apt-gte clean
[03:07] <misfit_toy> bh_: I have compiz running and it's fine but there seems to be more theming for beryl...is there a speed difference that you are aware of? as in cpu sucking etc...
[03:07] <bh_> misfit_toy: beryl has more features, and compiz is more bugfree according to some people.
[03:07] <SongOfTheWeave> misfit_tol: I prefer beryl
[03:07] <cwmajors> Song: I see several gnome-related lines, but nothing specifically saying gdm/xdg/x11.
[03:07] <ravi_master> misfit_toy: use beryl
[03:07] <misfit_toy> hm, the same choice, candy or stability, as usual! lol
[03:07] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: oh yeah it won't, i meant any of those sorry.
[03:08] <bh_> misfit_toy: no not really. I tried both but sort of preffered compiz.
[03:08] <Moosejaw> rtorrent looks a little tricky for me
[03:08] <ravi_master> misfit_toy: stability about same on compiz and beryl, no biggie
[03:08] <Moosejaw> not quite as easy as a gui
[03:08] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: it sounds like it failed to completely start but left components running...
[03:08] <misfit_toy> bh, I seem to have an issue with any theme in compiz though, is it truly themable?
[03:08] <cwmajors> Jetscreamer: I did stop, it succeeded. Then I tried start, and it failed.
[03:08] <romeo_> wols: What is apt-get clean?
[03:08] <wols> man apt-get
[03:08] <michael117> How can I view commands that have entered to the computer by programs?
[03:08] <ardchoille> clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files
[03:08] <bh_> misfit_toy: both have clitshes, and I preffered those in compiz...
[03:08] <michael117> what logs?
[03:09] <SongOfTheWeave> misfit_toy: I've never used compiz but beryl has been very very easy for me to install and I've had maybe 1 problem with it in the time I've been running it
[03:09] <bh_> misfit_toy: what window decorator are you using
[03:09] <michael117> misfit_toy: Beryl is the spinoff of compiz and compiz is more stable, but beryl is pretty stable by itself and has many more features and effects
[03:09] <bh_> misfit_toy: if you use gwd any metacity theme should work
[03:09] <cwmajors> Would it be safe to assume that the SLI setup is confusing the liveCD? If so, do I have an option for installing Ubuntu on this computer while keeping the hardware as-is?
[03:10] <jetscreamer> cwmajors: grep EE /var/log/X*.0.log
[03:10] <ravi_master> anyone absolutely know how to configure an ati 9200, I mean absolutely.
[03:10] <zyth> ravi_master, opensource radeon driver
[03:10] <jetscreamer> and check the xorg docs to see if the nv module supports your card(s)
[03:10] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: its possible, did you try simply plugging your monitor into the other vid card? I'm not too familiar with how SLI setups work
[03:10] <misfit_toy> bh_ hm, I guess that is where I'm going wrong, not sure how to install a "window decorator", I'm just going to my system/themes
[03:10] <michael117> ravi_master: I have a radeon 9800 pro... go ahead and ask and we'll see if we can help
[03:10] <ravi_master> zyth: can you run beryl on open source though?
[03:10] <crdlb> ravi_master, you shouldn't have to do anything
[03:11] <SongOfTheWeave> jetscreamer:  he's trying to use the live CD, not even at an install yet as I understand
[03:11] <bruenig> ravi_master, if you have intel graphics card
[03:11] <zyth> ravi_master, yes, the oss driver supports aiglx.
[03:11] <bh_> misfit_toy: which compiz package are you using?
[03:11] <jetscreamer> o ok nm
[03:11] <cwmajors> Pertinent line: (EE)AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[03:11] <ravi_master> got a guide for aiglx+beryl+ati 9200 ?
[03:11] <misfit_toy> bh_ no idea actually
[03:11] <michael117> How can I view the log of commands entered to the system by applications?
[03:11] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: just to be positive, this is the live CD you're unable to boot into gnome with?
[03:12] <zyth> ravi_master, I think beryl's wiki has it
[03:12] <zynergi> wols
[03:12] <ravi_master> got a guide for aiglx+beryl+ati 9200+open source?*
[03:12] <cwmajors> Correct. LiveCD for Feisty herd 5.
[03:12] <zynergi> there is no way to do that in my bios
[03:12] <zynergi> that i know of
[03:12] <shmeelAway> hey, how does ubuntu handle external montiros if i'm using a laptop?
[03:12] <ravi_master> zyth, ok I'll check there, anyone else got a direct link?
[03:12] <cwmajors> This same CD installed successfully onto my laptop, so I know it's good.
[03:12] <bh_> misfit_toy: what does apt-cache show compiz say? should tell you which version you have installed
[03:12] <SongOfTheWeave> Hey anybody know a live CD boot option that works with 2 SLI-ed vid cards?
[03:12] <macpo3> Hi, am I right in thinking that pump / pumpd and dhcp-client / dhclient are probably both tryuing to carry out the same function, and I don'yt need them both?
[03:12] <michael117> How can I view the log of commands entered to the system by applications?
[03:12] <eV64> !sli
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <bh_> !lvm
[03:13] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:13] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: I had to boot the live CD with the noapic nolapic options but thats unrelated to your issue
[03:13] <bh_> shmeelAway: what do you mean by handle. It works... but...
[03:14] <michael117> !logs
[03:14] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:14] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: try checking the help (F1 or something) at the lilo prompt when you first boot from the live cd
[03:14] <misfit_toy> bh_: 0.0.13.38-0ubuntu3 - compiz-core (0 (null)) compiz-plugins (2 0.2) compiz-gnome (0 (null)) cgwd (2 0.59)
[03:14] <SongOfTheWeave> it may give an option that addresses your situation
[03:14] <shmeelAway> bh_ if i just plug my external monitor into my laptop through VGA, will ubuntu automatically configure resolution and use that monitor?
[03:15] <SongOfTheWeave> then just hit F6 and type that option at the end of the text that appears
[03:15] <cwmajors> This box has a total of 4 DVI outputs. I'm going to try booting with the monitor connected to each one.
[03:15] <bh_> misfit_toy: ahh. That's a pretty old package. You said you're on edgy right?
[03:15] <misfit_toy> bh_ yes
[03:15] <Chapayev__> anyone have trouble adjussting screen res down ?? - like it logs off ?
[03:15] <SongOfTheWeave> wow, what kinda box is that?? heh
[03:15] <bh_> shmeelAway: no probably not. What's you're graphic card?
[03:15] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: Try checking the boot opitons while you're there
[03:15] <cwmajors> SongOfTheWeave: Will do. Two cards, two DVI outs each. :)
[03:15] <ravi_master> ok, no luck finding an ati open source driver guide with aiglx on beryl site
[03:15] <Geoffrey2> I recently installed sun java 6 and removed version 5, however Firefox still shows plugins present for BOTH versions....I could use some help trying to find whatever file still needs to be purged
[03:16] <shmeelAway> nvidia geforce 7400 i think bh_
[03:16] <Chapayev__> i know i have to edit some .conf - but that only changes the ooptions in the panel right ?
[03:16] <michael117> How can I find out what command is associated with a program performing a function?
[03:16] <bh_> misfit_toy: if you wan't to investigate you can go to www.go-compiz.org or www.beryl-project.org for further info
[03:16] <ravi_master> zyth, I can't find instructions on how to get aiglx going on the open source drivers though
[03:16] <bh_> misfit_toy: should give you details of both compiz and beryl
[03:17] <misfit_toy> bh_ ok, I will, don't need any hand holding, I thought there might be a newer repo or something, thanks for the suggestions!
[03:17] <michael117> ravi_master: yeah... don't, just do fglrx and xgl
[03:17] <bh_> misfit_toy: and how to get the latest packages for edgy. But be prepared for some tinkering...
[03:17] <misfit_toy> bh_ sure thing, always is!
[03:17] <misfit_toy> thanks
[03:17] <ravi_master> michael117, not as straight-forward as it seems, I got errors after I configured everythiing, XGL couldn't find any screens to render in
[03:18] <michael117> ravi_master: the open source driver doesn't support 3d rendering and so if anything, it will do software rendering which sucks and is slow
[03:18] <SongOfTheWeave> Anyone here familiar with SDL? I just ran into a problem when I installed the ia32 libs (running feisty x86_64) where all my audio ceases to work.
[03:18] <addams> If you have apache running as a test server, should you turn it off when you're done for security?
[03:18] <SongOfTheWeave> my soundcards still appear when I run aplay -l, but I have no sound
[03:18] <michael117> ravi_master: well, first thing you need to do is just make sure you get the fglrx driver working correctly
[03:18] <ravi_master> michael117, I just heard ati open source does aiglx well
[03:18] <romeo_> How do you see what PCI slots you got running?
[03:19] <bh_> misfit_toy: didn't mean to "lecture". It's just that the newer versions are much better.
[03:19] <GrubMan> Want to install edgy in my pc.. i have Ubuntu also.. but want another seprate copy of edgy but there is problem with my partition i have 6gb space in my Ubuntu partion so how can i resize my partition? and If i Resize my Ubuntu partition so after install edgy. my Ubuntu-dapper works fine too?
[03:19] <michael117> ravi_master: Yeah... software rendering...
[03:19] <ravi_master> michael117, how can I test my drivers, fglrxinfo looks fine, everythings fine but Xgl fails
[03:19] <michael117> ravi_master: Because ATI's such a bitch to us linux folks, we must use the XGL hack without any native aiglx support
[03:19] <bh_> shmeelAway: have you installed nvidia settings?
[03:20] <katani> Stay away from ATI cards if possible
[03:20] <dumbdumb> anybody know the name of a windows/dos progam that automates installing ubuntu without a cdrom?  i've done it before but i forget what its called
[03:20] <katani> jigdo?
[03:20] <michael117> ravi_master: Make sure you have it installed and changed from 'Driver "ati"' to 'Driver "fglrx"' then test out with glxgears in terminal
[03:20] <Orfeous> searching for some hints why my system is feeling so slow. i have changed from ATI to Nvidia graphic card so it is not the ATI-drivers :D
[03:20] <Moosejaw> anyone have a good recommendation for a bittorrent client?
[03:20] <shmeelAway> bh_ i have nVidia-glx drivers, and X server settings
[03:20] <ravi_master> of course, I already did that, gears looks fine
[03:21] <Orfeous> my processor load is quite high if i run a program..
[03:21] <katani> Moosejaw: Are you running Gnome, or KDE?
[03:21] <Moosejaw> gnome
[03:21] <dumbdumb> anybody know the name of a windows/dos progam that automates installing ubuntu without a cdrom?  i've done it before but i forget what its called
[03:21] <GrubMan> dumbdumb: maybe with Virtual System?
[03:21] <ravi_master> michael117: of course, I already did that, any other suggestions?
[03:21] <Chapayev__> i just switched to xbuntu hoping for more speed - but it actually seems slower than the reg. drake
[03:22] <michael117> ravi_master: And you have direct rendering: yes in the glxinfo screen?
[03:22] <PinkFloyd> !vnc
[03:22] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[03:22] <katani> Moosejaw: Oh. Ktorrent seems to be pretty good. KDE-based though
[03:22] <dumbdumb> GrubMan: naw, doesnt ring a bell
[03:22] <ravi_master> michael117: yep
[03:22] <katani> Moosejaw: you could also try Azureus
[03:22] <bh_> shmeelAway: there is an app called nvidia-settings which have some options for enabling external monitors. I still think it requires some configuration in xorg.conf. And I doubt it will work as well as in windows with respect to hotplugging the monitor.
[03:22] <GrubMan> I Want to install edgy in my pc.. i have Ubuntu also.. but want another seprate copy of edgy but there is problem with my partition i have 6gb space in my Ubuntu partion so how can i resize my partition? and If i Resize my Ubuntu partition so after install edgy. my Ubuntu-dapper works fine too?
[03:22] <Viscid> Okay this is killing me
[03:23] <michael117> ravi_master: I know it seemes tedious and live you've done all the correct steps, but it's just kind of a procedure you must follow and look over to be sure and you are frustrated because you've gone through a lot of it
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> Chapayev__: thats pretty wierd, my laptop will barely run Gnome, but runs perfectly with Xfce.
[03:23] <Moosejaw> i just got rid of azureus
[03:23] <shmeelAway> bh_ what's hotplugging the monitor?
[03:23] <Moosejaw> i may try deluge
[03:23] <dumbdumb> anybody know the name of a windows/dos progam that automates installing ubuntu without a cdrom?  i've done it before but i forget what its called
[03:23] <ravi_master> michael117: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11594/
[03:23] <katani> Moosejaw: Azureus was giving you problems?
[03:23] <bh_> shmeelAway: connecting and disconnecting without rebooting
[03:23] <Chapayev__> indy - the Xfce is crawling !?
[03:24] <katani> Dumbdumb: was it jigdo?
[03:24] <shmeelAway> bh_ so you suggest just connecting the monitor after booting up?
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> Chapayev__: no, Xfce runs perfectly.
[03:24] <Moosejaw> katani: I think so...i just want to try something new
[03:24] <Viscid> I'm trying to install Feisty Fawn on my laptop. Ever since Edgy Eft, I've not been able to install an ubuntu release. Whenever it tries to install, it just reboots. It gets as far as the end of 'squashfs,' so I assume it's starting the graphical interface or whatever, but it just reboots my laptop. I've looked through all the support forums and have come up short. Any suggestions?
[03:24] <dumbdumb> katani: maybe
[03:24] <bh_> shmeelAway: no before.
[03:24] <michael117> ravi_master: Could you paste your xorg.conf as well?
[03:24] <ravi_master> michael117: sure
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> Chapayev__: I've also put it on a 600mhz Pentium that I have, and again, works great.
[03:24] <shmeelAway> bh_ ok
[03:25] <ravi_master> michael117: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11595/
[03:26] <ravi_master> michael117, hold on, I have to change something
[03:26] <aKKiLLa> d
[03:26] <GrubMan> I Want to install edgy in my pc.. i have Ubuntu also.. but want another seprate copy of edgy but there is problem with my partition i have 6gb space in my Ubuntu partion so how can i resize my partition? and If i Resize my Ubuntu partition so after install edgy. my Ubuntu-dapper works fine too?
[03:27] <jetscreamer> supposedly
[03:27] <stickbook> hello anybody?
[03:27] <Viscid> .. Wow there are a lot of people in this room.
[03:27] <Viscid> Biggest idle count ever.
[03:28] <michael117> GrubMan: You cannot resize to a smaller size partition, only exand
[03:28] <bruenig> loggers
[03:28] <ravi_master> michael117: here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11596/
[03:28] <Viscid> So, any possible tips on getting Ubuntu to install?
[03:28] <Viscid> Anyone, anyone..
[03:28] <bruenig> michael117, yes you can, you just have to take space off the end of it
[03:28] <GrubMan> michael117: i heared that.. i can resize the partition.. i m not sure but.. someone tell me that.
[03:29] <bruenig> Viscid, what you are going to want to do is double click that icon that says "Install"
[03:29] <enderxim> I thought gparted was safe to resize partitions (smaller and larger)... similar to partition magic
[03:29] <Viscid> bruenig: I'm installing from nothing
[03:29] <crdlb> enderxim, it is, but you should always back up
[03:29] <bruenig> Viscid, so....
[03:29] <GrubMan> enderxim: i just have Edgy Dicsk..
[03:29] <michael117> bruenig: What file system? I've heard ext3, xfs, jfs, etc... aren't friendly with making partitions smaller, only reiser
[03:29] <tom47> !ask > stickbook
[03:30] <enderxim> crdlb, Of course, but it's still reasonably safe, or so I read
[03:30] <bruenig> michael117, I did it on ext3
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> !alternate | Viscid
[03:30] <ubotu> Viscid: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:30] <Viscid> bruenig: I'm trying to install Feisty Fawn on my laptop. Ever since Edgy Eft, I've not been able to install an ubuntu release. Whenever it tries to install, it just reboots. It gets as far as the end of 'squashfs,' so I assume it's starting the graphical interface or whatever, but it just reboots my laptop. I've looked through all the support forums and have come up short. Any suggestions?
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> Viscid: I'd recommend staying away from Feisty... at least for now.
[03:30] <Viscid> IndyGunFreak: I've tried alternate.
[03:30] <michael117> bruenig: What program did you use to do it?
[03:30] <enderxim> GrubMan, Just boot it until you get to the part of the boot where you partition your hd, choose manual, and it starts up gparted.
[03:30] <GrubMan> michael117: i m talking about resizing.. not smaller or greater.
[03:30] <bruenig> Viscid, feisty help in #ubuntu+1
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> Viscid: then you probably have some sort of hardware issue.
[03:30] <bruenig> michael117, gparted
[03:30] <Viscid> IndyGunFreak: Dapper works great though. =(
[03:31] <ravi_master> bruenig: you can make ext3 shrink if you change ext3 to ext2, then shrink and then change back
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> Viscid: i don't know, Try Edgy, its the current stable release
[03:31] <GrubMan> enderxim: but.. dude i had Dapper on that partition.. so if i resize it.. my dapper works fine too?
[03:31] <Viscid> bruenig: k, thanks.
[03:31] <michael117> GrubMan: Growing the partition or condensing it to a smaller one?
[03:31] <Viscid> IndyGunFreak: Edgy gives me the same issue. =(
[03:31] <enderxim> GrubMan, Yes
[03:31] <ravi_master> michael117: got any suggestions after seeing my xorg?
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> Viscid: what type of media are you burning the ISO to?
[03:31] <enderxim> GrubMan, You have to resize the dapper partition, and create a new one for edgy, and i believe you can share the swap, but don't take my word for that.
[03:31] <michael117> ravi_master: Yeah... comparing it to my xorg
[03:31] <GrubMan> michael117: i have 20gb partition 0f Dapper.. so i want to resize it with 10gb
[03:31] <Viscid> Sony 700 MB CD-Rs
[03:32] <jetscreamer> you can share the swap or use swapfiles
[03:32] <bh_> Viscid: I don't remember I think it should be possible to start the installation in text-mode
[03:32] <Viscid> They go through the media check fine
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> Viscid: only thing I can recommend, is try burning them again, and burn them as slow as possible...2-4x
[03:32] <Moosejaw> i want to locate the app deluge on my system
[03:32] <Moosejaw> whats the command?
[03:32] <ravi_master> michael117: how do I get framerate when running glxgears, I know it is some long parameter...
[03:32] <GrubMan> yA i used swap same partition with Redhat linux.. and Ubuntu.
[03:32] <nkayhan> I realize this is a pretty nooby question, but I was talking to the IT guy at my school about putting ubuntu on a large number of computers.  Right now with win2k when the computer boots it brings you to a screen allowing you to login to the school's domain.  Is this possible with ubuntu?
[03:32] <Moosejaw> i tried locate deluge but nothing came up
[03:32] <jetscreamer> try locate deluge
[03:32] <bruenig> Moosejaw, the bittorrent client?
[03:32] <jetscreamer> try updatedb first
[03:32] <Moosejaw> ok
[03:32] <jetscreamer> sudo updatedb
[03:32] <enderxim> GrubMan, Well there you go, when you resize it you'll have some freespace left over, and create a new ext3 fs there, and install edgy on that
[03:33] <michael117> GrubMan: So you want to condense it from 20GB to 10GB? I heard it not possible with ext3 but bruenig says otherwise
[03:33] <jetscreamer> it will take a while Moosejaw
[03:33] <Viscid> IndyGunFreak: It has nothing to do with the CDs. It only happens when trying to run casper
[03:33] <Moosejaw> k...well thanks
[03:33] <GrubMan> michael117 : mAn u make me confused :>
[03:33] <michael117> ravi_master: Forgot as well... :( I was trying to remember a while ago but can't
[03:33] <bruenig> michael117, I could have swore that I have done it before. It was a long time ago though.
[03:33] <enderxim> michael117, I have done that as well
[03:33] <jetscreamer> back it up and make new partitions then unzip it
[03:33] <romeo_> Why does it say my hdd is full when i got like 90gig on my /home folder free?
[03:34] <michael117> GrubMan: I was talking with some hardcore mofos in #debian who were telling me otherwise
[03:34] <ravi_master> michael117: I can see just using my eyes that gears is running pretty smooth for me right now
[03:34] <nkayhan> I realize this is a pretty nooby question, but I was talking to the IT guy at my school about putting ubuntu on a large number of computers.  Right now with win2k when the computer boots it brings you to a screen allowing you to login to the school's domain.  Is this possible with ubuntu?
[03:34] <michael117> ravi_master: Well, the direct rendering part is the most important
[03:34] <jetscreamer> lol@michael117
[03:34] <GrubMan> bruenig And enderxim . thanks. ya both.. and offcourse michael117 u too.
[03:34] <jetscreamer> the 'hardcore mofos' part
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> nkayhan: no offense, if you're that new, unless there is someone on staff that is very familiar with Ubuntu, I wouldn't do it.
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> otherwise, you're gonna be expected to fix any problem that comes up,\
[03:35] <enderxim> GrubMan, Good luck, like some other people said though, back up your important data before ever messing with your partitions.
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> nkayhan: "login to the school's domain" - what's that mean?
[03:35] <michael117> jetscreamer: Yeah... this guy was from sweden or finland making custom linux kernels and distros for companies and he had done some file system analysis
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> nkayhan: how large a number?
[03:35] <romeo_> Any idea why it is displaying that my harddrive is full when i got almost 90gig free space?
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> romeo_: what's displaying that?
[03:36] <enderxim> romeo_, using what app?
[03:36] <jetscreamer> it?
[03:36] <jetscreamer> what he said
[03:36] <GrubMan> well i get 2 files with ISO image.. but its seprate from the ISO image. one is the "ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.list" And another one "ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.manifest"
[03:36] <enderxim> romeo_, I've had that problem using the "Disk Usage Analyzer" in the menu, but df works just fine in the console.
[03:36] <bruenig> GrubMan, list lists all the files in the iso,
[03:36] <GrubMan> enderxim: sure.. i get backup.
[03:36] <nkayhan> tonyyarusso:  On a windows pc, it brings you to the login screen (enter your user name and password) to eith login to that computers local server, or the windows server (domain). can this be set up with ubuntu?
[03:36] <TenshiTori> i need a help to install a HP 3180 on a friend computer, any tip??
[03:36] <GrubMan> bruenig thx.
[03:36] <daifunai> omg, help! XD I'm trying to figure out how to use RPM's under Kubuntu
[03:36] <TenshiTori> on dapper
[03:37] <daifunai> and trying to get java working!
[03:37] <bruenig> daifunai, what package
[03:37] <jetscreamer> linux.hp.com TenshiTori
[03:37] <daifunai> um...it's Limewire
[03:37] <ravi_master> michael117: framerate show command for glxgears is "glxgears -printfps"
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> nkayhan: What kinds of servers?  I don't understand what you're doing exactly.
[03:37] <daifunai> i got it off of limewire.com
[03:37] <Moosejaw> i want to point opening a torrent at the deluge app, but i cant find it...
[03:37] <TenshiTori> jetscreamer: thanks
[03:37] <ravi_master> michael117: I am getting 1400 FPS
[03:37] <ravi_master> michael117: decent, right?
[03:37] <michael117> ravi_master: thanks... I've noticed some discrepencies between the two
[03:37] <nkayhan> tonyyarusso: A local windows server, allowing people to login to the schools network
[03:37] <michael117> ravi_master: I believe so
[03:37] <daifunai> bruenig...wait, are you theresa bruenig from lhs? O.o;
[03:37] <gregorovius> hi everyone, I need some help with automount. when I plug my mp3 player, it gets mounted as read-only... how can I change that?
[03:38] <bruenig> daifunai, get the Other package from limewire, the source package
[03:38] <michael117> ravi_master: Add Load    "dbe" to your module section on your xorg
[03:38] <bruenig> daifunai, no I am not, theresa is a girls name, you realize this is linux irc support right
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> nkayhan: Sorry, that doesn't make any sense.  You don't really login to a network, you login to a machine on a network, for a particular purpose or application using the network.
[03:38] <romeo_> tonyyarusso: I get that error message when trying to install KDE
[03:38] <zen> how do I disable some of the tty's?
[03:38] <daifunai> hey, bruenig is a chick's last name that I know at my school. besides, I knopw some computer guru chicks, so...:P
[03:38] <romeo_> enderxim: I get it when i am trying to install KDE
[03:38] <daifunai> hehe
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> bruenig: There are women here - they're just wise enough not to let people know.
[03:39] <PinkFloyd> Is there anyway I can get packages on this computer and then put them on a floppy or USB disk?
[03:39] <jetscreamer> Moosejaw: apt-file search deluge ... apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update , if you don't have it
[03:39] <bruenig> tonyyarusso, a few
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> romeo_: Is your / full, and /home the one with space
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> ?
[03:39] <PinkFloyd> to transfer to my Ubuntu computer
[03:39] <enderxim> romeo_, Oh... that's new to me, that's odd
[03:39] <daifunai> so..ok, you mean the zip?
[03:39] <michael117> ravi_master: And also, you have two driver sections... delete the one with the Driver "ati" or comment it out
[03:39] <romeo_> tonyyarusso: How do i check that?
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> romeo_: df -h
[03:39] <nkayhan> tonyyarusso:  I realize this is often what you do, but people have user information and NAS on this network, and yes you definitely can log into a local network or a server
[03:40] <jetscreamer> does ubuntu create multiple partitions by default when being installed?
[03:40] <daifunai> alright, i got the other limewire file bruenig
[03:40] <d0lph1n> anyone have a good link for heterogeneous multi-monitor howto?
[03:40] <bh_> jetscreamer: only for swap
[03:40] <bruenig> daifunai, unzip it, you should be able to run it if you have java, by running the "runLime.sh" script
[03:40] <jetscreamer> thx
[03:40] <enderxim> jetscreamer, not by default, but on install you can add partitions for /home, /boot, etc
[03:40] <ravi_master> michael117: done
[03:40] <michael117> ravi_master: Also, I have Option	    "VideoOverlay" "on" and Option	    "OpenGLOverlay" "off" under my driver sections, so I suggest you add them as well
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> nkayhan: So what you're saying is it's essentially a thin client setup, where you're doing network authentication.
[03:40] <nkayhan> jetscreamer: swap (harddrive ram) and main partition by default
[03:40] <jetscreamer> ah
[03:40] <jetscreamer> and thank you too
[03:41] <nkayhan> tonyyarusso:  Yea, that's a much clearer way of putting it
[03:41] <daifunai> bruenig, that's also another complication
[03:41] <PinkFloyd> Is there anyway to download packages, put them onto a USB disk, and then transfer them to my Ubuntu computer?
[03:41] <daifunai> I can't get java to work
[03:41] <daifunai> can you lead me through it?
[03:41] <jetscreamer> yes PinkFloyd
[03:41] <bruenig> daifunai, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[03:41] <PinkFloyd> jetscreamer: Point me where?
[03:41] <jetscreamer> apt-get install -d for one
[03:41] <jetscreamer> man apt-get
[03:41] <macpo3> right ... after more poking, I need to "sudo dhclient" after bootup to get a networok connection - can anyone suggest why this isn't happening automatically. my eth0 lines in /etc/network/interfaces are "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[03:41] <jetscreamer> -d is download only iirc
[03:41] <michael117> ravi_master: I also have Option	    "Composite" "0" under my extensions section, but that's essentially the same so don't worry about that...
[03:41] <daifunai> bruenig, i can't do the terminal very well. anyway that's a little more simpl?
[03:41] <daifunai> simple*
[03:42] <romeo_> tonyyarusso: /dec/sda1 is full
[03:42] <jetscreamer> you can also get it from your sources, just wget stuff
[03:42] <michael117> ravi_master: Do you have the XGL GDM entry?
[03:42] <bruenig> daifunai, just copy and paste that, very easy
[03:42] <romeo_> tonyyarusso: dev*
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> nkayhan: Okay, gotcha.  I know for sure that you can have that sort of setup with both Ubuntu clients and server, and I'd venture to guess that you can probably do Ubuntu clients with a Windows server.  #edubuntu people work with network auth a lot.
[03:42] <daifunai> bruenig, i will, but tell me anyway for future reference
[03:42] <jetscreamer> PinkFloyd: packages get downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives , i think
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> romeo_: What's the mount point of sda1?
[03:42] <jetscreamer> unless it's different
[03:42] <bruenig> daifunai, oh did you want an explanation or something, I couldn't tell from your last statement exactly what you were saying
[03:42] <PinkFloyd> jetscreamer: I found, thanks
[03:43] <jetscreamer> PinkFloyd: then just cp them over, and dpkg -i them when you want
[03:43] <nkayhan> tonyyarusso:  But it's a windows server, so I feel like that can get iffy, right now, I can log into an ubuntu box, then see printers and I can login to see files, so I think it should work.  I'll check out #edubuntu
[03:43] <daifunai> is there an EASIER way to install stuff besides using the console, is what I was asking bruenig. I don't like the complications
[03:43] <jetscreamer> synaptic ?
[03:43] <SeveredCross> daifunai: Synaptic
[03:43] <Xenguy> daifunai: yes, synaptic
[03:43] <bruenig> daifunai, well easy is subjective I guess, sudo apt-get install <whatever> seems pretty easy to me
[03:43] <ravi_master> michael117: yep, I have a gdm entry for xgl
[03:43] <michael117> daifunai: Yes, synaptic, but dude... it's not hard
[03:44] <bruenig> more so then wading through the gui and wasting time
[03:44] <SeveredCross> Yeah..
[03:44] <nkayhan> tonyyarusso:  And thank you for working though that problem with me, I couldn't phrase it well
[03:44] <ravi_master> michael117: I'll restart gdm and try it
[03:44] <SeveredCross> sudo apt-get install package is easy for me.
[03:44] <Xenguy> bruenig: it is, for people who learn that way, like us :-)
[03:44] <daifunai> Sorry bruenig. I'm Not much of a command prompt lover...O.o; I just want linux, easy, and install stuff easier
[03:44] <daifunai> i don't like typing in that stuff
[03:44] <michael117> ravi_master: yeah... well, just ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:44] <daifunai> i'm JUST migrating from windows after all
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> nkayhan: There should be some good info on the wiki as well.  Search terms might include ldap, kerberos, and thin client, among others
[03:44] <SeveredCross> daifunai: It's good to get into the habit early.
[03:44] <Xenguy> daifunai: sooner or later you will come to know the powah of the dark side =)
[03:45] <bruenig> daifunai, ok whatever you want. options are there for a reason I guess. System>administration>synaptic package manger and search for java
[03:45] <Xenguy> boo hiss
[03:45] <SeveredCross> I can't resize my bloody partition to install Ubuntu because I have bad sectors...Drive's hardly a year old.
[03:45] <Xenguy> ;-)
[03:45] <SeveredCross> I have a valid reason!
[03:45] <romeo_> tonyyarusso: Its /... Anyway to change it? :S
[03:45] <GrubMan> is there Any helpfull way to learn bash scripting?
[03:45] <jetscreamer> you can mark bad sectors
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> romeo_: You'd have to either remove stuff or make the partition larger
[03:45] <Xenguy> GrubMan: google bash script tutorial
[03:46] <erichj> GrubMan: trial and error always worked best for me
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> !bash | GrubMan
[03:46] <ubotu> GrubMan: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:46] <Lam_> how do you save a session in firefox?
[03:46] <daifunai> i got synaptic by downloading it from the adept prog
[03:46] <bruenig> GrubMan, I learned from looking at scripts and man pages
[03:46] <jetscreamer> GrubMan: /join #bash , read the /topic , check the links, and watch out for greycat ... :)
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> GrubMan: The "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide"
[03:46] <SeveredCross> daifunai: If you have Adept, you don't need Synaptic too.
[03:46] <nkayhan> tonyyarusso:  ldap for sure, I'm not sure how the windows server works exacly, but I'll check it out
[03:46] <jetscreamer> oh and don't ask stupid questions in there either :)
[03:46] <paozinho> !feisty
[03:46] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:46] <bruenig> GrubMan, yeah but watch out in #bash, they aren't as friendly
[03:46] <romeo_> tonyyarusso: its only 3g =).. How do i make the partion larger?
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> romeo_: gparted
[03:46] <GrubMan> :/
[03:46] <Xenguy> Lam_: I think there is an extension that will do that; in IceWeasel it seems to be turned on by default
[03:46] <daifunai> but how do I use either to use packages already ON my desktop?
[03:46] <GrubMan> okiE thAnks.. Better google it :)
[03:46] <jetscreamer> GrubMan: nah it's a great learning channel
[03:47] <SeveredCross> daifunai: Adept/Synaptic only install packages.
[03:47] <jetscreamer> go forth
[03:47] <jetscreamer> /join
[03:47] <SeveredCross> Most packages aren't actually usable.
[03:47] <GrubMan> jetscreamer .. ok.
[03:47] <SeveredCross> Since often, they're libs.
[03:47] <Lam_> Xenguy: ok thanks
[03:47] <SeveredCross> But usable packages (ie. software), will usually show up in your Gnome menu.
[03:47] <daifunai> What about those already downloaded? I'd like to use RPM's
[03:47] <bkinman> Anyone had any problems with emerald starting up lately?
[03:47] <Xenguy> Lam_: sorry, can't remember the extension name
[03:47] <SeveredCross> daifunai: Ooh, using RPM's requires the commandline.
[03:47] <SeveredCross> Basically...
[03:47] <SeveredCross> To install an RPM, you have to:
[03:47] <ravi_master> michael117: just a sec, reinstalling beryl
[03:47] <SeveredCross> Open a terminal
[03:47] <SeveredCross> sudo apt-get install alien
[03:47] <bruenig> daifunai, rpms aren't for ubuntu
[03:47] <SeveredCross> alien -i rpm-filename
[03:47] <bruenig> alien is dangerous
[03:48] <SeveredCross> I knkow.
[03:48] <SeveredCross> But if you absolutely must use an RPM, it's the only way.
[03:48] <michael117> ravi_master: Yeah... I was like "wtf, it doesn't say he's quit yet?"
[03:48] <SeveredCross> You should always look for DEB's though.
[03:48] <Xenguy> SeveredCross: yeah, alien can work (it's worked for me), but it should be a last resort me thinks
[03:48] <bruenig> well you hardly ever need to use rpm. I can't think of any example where a tarball isn't there
[03:48] <SeveredCross> If you have those, they're easy to install, you can right-click on them.
[03:48] <daifunai> alright. give me the command for installing limewirelinux.rpm
[03:48] <SeveredCross> daifunai:
[03:48] <daifunai> think you can do that severedcross?
[03:48] <SeveredCross> Err, don't bother.
[03:48] <jetscreamer> alien has yet to not work for me.. all i know though.
[03:48] <bruenig> daifunai, get the zip like I said
[03:48] <GrubMan> going to my way.. installing . edgy! thanks for all help.
[03:48] <SeveredCross> daifunai: I could easily give you the command, it would take me a minute to type up.
[03:48] <michael117> daifunai: Fuck RPM's, deb's are easier and so it apt-get and synaptic minus the dependency hell
[03:48] <SeveredCross> However, might it be in the multiverse repository?
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | michael117
[03:49] <ubotu> michael117: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:49] <SeveredCross> Or Frostwire maybe.
[03:49] <paozinho> !feisty | paozinho
[03:49] <daifunai> so what are you trying to say guys?
[03:49] <SeveredCross> daifunai, try this first.
[03:49] <SeveredCross> Open Adept
[03:49] <Xenguy> michael117: they're so puritan around here - you'll get used to it ;-)
[03:49] <daifunai> i'm in
[03:49] <SeveredCross> Aw dammit, I can't remember wher to change the repositories used by Adept.
[03:49] <bruenig> daifunai, there are other applications that have gnutella that are in the repositories, you should try to install them
[03:49] <SeveredCross> Umm, look in one menu for changing repositories.
[03:49] <SeveredCross> Enable the Multiverse repository.
[03:50] <daifunai> so..what program SHOULD I use then?
[03:50] <michael117> daifunai: Synaptic Package Manager
[03:50] <bruenig> michael117, he is in kubuntu
[03:50] <bruenig> daifunai, gtk-gnutella is one
[03:50] <paozinho> Where i make download from Feisty ????? I already tried say "!feisty" but the BOT dont say...someone ?
[03:50] <bruenig> daifunai, if you could get java installed, then using that zip will be really easy
[03:51] <SeveredCross> paozinho: You should be able to do a dist-upgrade to Feisty
[03:51] <SeveredCross> Look in the topic..
[03:51] <Alonea> can someone find my longish post about adept, fglrx, etc and paste it for me?
[03:51] <ant> !upgrade | paozinho
[03:51] <ubotu> paozinho: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:51] <daifunai> bruenig, I HAVE synaptic open. which file is java/
[03:51] <SeveredCross> Oh, it's not in this topic.
[03:51] <michael117> paozinho: Wait about a week and a half until the final release and do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:51] <SeveredCross> It was in the topic for #kubuntu :)
[03:51] <bruenig> daifunai, do you have the extra repositories enabled? and are you in edgy or dapper?
[03:51] <paozinho> ant: thank you
[03:52] <daifunai> bruenig, i'm in edgy
[03:52] <paozinho> michael117: thank you but i will need for now !
[03:52] <ant> !beta | paozinho
[03:52] <ubotu> paozinho: Just because it's almost ready doesn't mean you should use it.  Final releases happen when they do for a reason; unless you'd like to become familiar with those reasons through a system that won't boot, just be patient.
[03:52] <bruenig> daifunai, and I assume you don't know about the first question?
[03:52] <ant> for liability reasons :)
[03:52] <daifunai> i'm aware about the difference between dapper and edgy
[03:52] <bruenig> daifunai, the repository question
[03:53] <daifunai> sorry. what would that be now bruenig? too many people are trying to ask me stuff
[03:53] <daifunai> which file in synaptic is the java runtime, while you're at it bruenig
[03:53] <SeveredCross> daifunai: You need to enable the other repositories besides restricted and security or whatever's on by default.
[03:53] <bruenig> daifunai, sigh, just open up a terminal and copy and paste this ok, this will save you a lot of headaches: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[03:53] <ravi_master> michael117: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11599/
[03:54] <bruenig> daifunai, that is only something you will need to do once to enable all the repositories and install java
[03:54] <RedRose> Let's say I wanted to create a user with no password, By directly editing the passwd file. Would it just be like "Bleh::1001:etc:etc:etc", escentially just taking out the x?
[03:54] <HipotermiA> what is  swiftfox
[03:55] <SeveredCross> RedRose: Yeah, that looks about right.
[03:55] <bruenig> HipotermiA, firefox which is optimized for a particular processor
[03:55] <bruenig> I didn't get much of a speed increase myself
[03:55] <daifunai> bruenig, it's working. but there should be a simpler way to do this crap outside of using a terminal to make this os a little more user friendly. I myself am a novice, which is why I came here
[03:55] <HipotermiA> ok
[03:55] <HipotermiA> thx !
[03:55] <SeveredCross> daifunai: there is a simpler way, I told you.
[03:55] <ravi_master> michael117: yt?
[03:55] <_unfyjr> guys i've ubuntu 5.04 can i update after installing?
[03:55] <SeveredCross> In Adept, look for the menu option that has to do with managing repositories or something.
[03:55] <michael117> ravi_master: No
[03:55] <SeveredCross> _unfyjr: Yes.
[03:55] <bruenig> daifunai, there is an easier way to do it, but it is hard to explain it. You have to click around the gui until you find the right menus and buttons.
[03:55] <_unfyjr> one more question
[03:55] <SeveredCross> Once you install, you can just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:56] <_unfyjr> ok
[03:56] <michael117> ravi_master: So did GDM come up and then you select the XGL session and you got that message?
[03:56] <ravi_master> michael117: yep
[03:56] <_unfyjr> does wireless internet work on ubuntu?
[03:56] <bruenig> !info unzip
[03:56] <ubotu> unzip: De-archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.52-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 143 kB, installed size 324 kB
[03:56] <_unfyjr> it doesn't works on live cd
[03:56] <SeveredCross> _unfyjr: My wireless card is recognized perfectly under Edgy Eft.
[03:56] <ant> _unfyjr : yes
[03:57] <SeveredCross> Right out of the box.
[03:57] <cables> _unfyjr, it doesn't work with certain interfaces.
[03:57] <daifunai> ah crap! bruenig, the program is telling me that it was unable to lock the administration directory yada yada
[03:57] <_unfyjr> aight
[03:57] <_unfyjr> i'm gonna try
[03:57] <SeveredCross> Atheros works, no?
[03:57] <cables> SeveredCross, Atheros works
[03:57] <SeveredCross> daifunai: You forgot to sudo, or you have another instance of apt-get running.
[03:57] <ant> !wifi | _unfyjr
[03:57] <ubotu> _unfyjr: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:57] <froyd> hey folks, night all
[03:57] <_unfyjr> ant thanks
[03:57] <bcurran> I have a problem getting too many copies when I print -- I'm getting the square of the number I request.  This is a problem reported on apple forums.  Anyone seen this on edgy?  (I'm new to ubuntu, coming from RedHat.)
[03:57] <daifunai> how do i know what is?
[03:57] <froyd> how can i remote desktop my win xp machine from my ubuntu ?
[03:57] <ant> _unfyjr : you dont have a broadcom or a belkin do you?
[03:57] <bruenig> daifunai, close synaptic or adept or whatever you have open and do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[03:58] <SeveredCross> fryo: Hmm...
[03:58] <dpak> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 6.10 on my notebook. I tried to install driver for my Intel Mobile 945GM integrated graphics, and I tried searching for methods. I found one, and I followed the website direction. The website says that the screen resolution would automatically adjust, but nothing happened for me. Does anybody know what I can do?
[03:58] <_unfyjr> none of them
[03:58] <bruenig> daifunai, you can't have two package managers open at once, So if you have synaptic open, and try to use apt-get from the command line, it won't work
[03:58] <cables> bcurran, just enter the square-root of what you want to print
[03:58] <SeveredCross> I know KDE has a remote desktop client, but I'm not sure what you can do under just plain Ubuntu.
[03:58] <froyd> !vnc
[03:58] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[03:58] <cables> SeveredCross, it does
[03:58] <michael117> ravi_master: Could you past your /usr/local/bin/startxgl.sh or whatever your xgl script is?
[03:58] <bh_> daifunai: Using command line is much more convenient when helping out on IRC. A short text string can do what requires lots of words to explain if you use GUI. BTW, that's also why the command line is so good.
[03:58] <aKKiLLa> so I am now on ubuntu and I don't have my windows 3d tools anymore.  Can someone tell me how in ubuntu I can: ake a 3d fire ball and have it fly all fast across teh screen and then explode into raining water and then flowers grow up that light on fire and join together as a fireball and infinetely look through the animation
[03:58] <SeveredCross> Oh right, VNC.
[03:58] <cables> SeveredCross, it comes with a remote desktop and vnc client
[03:58] <daifunai> Ok, NOW about the gnutella thing
[03:58] <bcurran> cables, cute
[03:59] <froyd> so vnc will allow me to remote desktop my win from my linux ?
[03:59] <daifunai> which package is that?
[03:59] <SeveredCross> aKKiLLa: Uh, pov-ray?
[03:59] <froyd> humn
[03:59] <aKKiLLa> :}
[03:59] <SeveredCross> daifunai: GTK-gnutella
[03:59] <cables> bcurran, if I know how, I'd help you.
[03:59] <cables> froyd, no
[03:59] <SeveredCross> So, from the command-line, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:59] <froyd> no ?
[03:59] <cables> froyd, remote ddesktop is similar but not the same as vnc
[03:59] <cables> froyd, but Ubuntu comes with a remote desktop clientt
[03:59] <froyd> humn
[03:59] <_unfyjr> whats good guys, default installation or the base?
[03:59] <rbil> aKKiLLa: LSD
[03:59] <cables> froyd, you can connect to Remote Desktop or a VNC server.
[03:59] <bh_> aKKiLLa: I think what you are explaining there can not be achieved in front of a computer ;)
[03:59] <SeveredCross> I dunno, I never used the 5.04 installer.
[03:59] <aKKiLLa> hahah
[03:59] <froyd> so i can just lunch the remote desktop n point to my win machine ?
[04:00] <cables> froyd, yep
[04:00] <daifunai> and that is in adept, right severedcross?
[04:00] <froyd> cool
[04:00] <froyd> thx dude
[04:00] <SeveredCross> daifunai: No, that's on the command line.
[04:00] <SeveredCross> If you wanna work with Adept.
[04:00] <SeveredCross> Just look through the packages.
[04:00] <SeveredCross> For gtk-gnutella
[04:00] <SeveredCross> Use the search filter.
[04:00] <daifunai> ok
[04:00] <michael117> What's the windows version of ssh, btw?
[04:00] <bruenig> daifunai, you can do it in adept, or you can do the "harder" thing and do "sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"
[04:00] <cables> !putty
[04:00] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:00] <bruenig> putty or something
[04:00] <froyd> cables: i see the remote desktop preferences but not the one i can point to the win machine
[04:00] <cables> !putty | michael117
[04:00] <ubotu> michael117: please see above
[04:00] <froyd> cables how do i launch it ?
[04:01] <ravi_master> michael117: I used the autoinstaller provided by beryl wiki, it seems to have replaced my xorg, I replaced it back, now I am able to login but I get a grey version of gnome with very slow windows etc.
[04:01] <cables> froyd, that's not it
[04:01] <daifunai> OH! one more thing! the wine emulator
[04:01] <bruenig> !botsnack | cables
[04:01] <ubotu> cables: Yum!
[04:01] <SeveredCross> daifunai: sudo apt-get install wine :)
[04:01] <dpak> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 6.10 on my notebook. I tried to install driver for my Intel Mobile 945GM integrated graphics, and I tried searching for methods. I found one, and I followed the website direction. The website says that the screen resolution would automatically adjust, but nothing happened for me. Does anybody know what I can do?
[04:01] <bruenig> SeveredCross, you with your hard commands
[04:01] <cables> froyd, Applications>Internet>Terminal Server Client
[04:01] <daifunai> dammit I'm gonna learn this prompt if it's the last thing I do
[04:01] <froyd> ohh
[04:01] <michael117> cables: I know putty... but what's the protocol to remotely connect to and get the command prompt of a windows box?
[04:01] <SeveredCross> daifunai: The CLI is bloody easy.
[04:01] <bruenig> daifunai, you see the trend, you just sudo apt-get install whatever
[04:01] <SeveredCross> If something gives you a permission denied error, stick sudo in front of it.
[04:01] <bruenig> very easy
[04:01] <froyd> thxcables
[04:01] <digitize> for some reason my dvd-rom is only allowing root as the owner, so my main user cannot view dvds, nor have i been successful in changing the permissions with sudo + nautilus.  any suggestions?
[04:02] <cables> michael117, not sure there, try asking in #windows
[04:02] <SeveredCross> digitize: You have to edit /etc/fstab
[04:02] <chacau> oi
[04:02] <digitize> SeveredCross: ah, i already know what you're talking about
[04:02] <digitize> ty
[04:02] <SeveredCross> My favorite is gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:02] <ant> dpak : i had to use a script called auto915resolution, i would read up on it cuz i have a little different chip
[04:02] <daifunai> um...bruenig, i'm having one more problem
[04:02] <KalleDK> Hey whats the hotkey for changing workspace ??
[04:02] <SeveredCross> KalleDK: Mouse wheel roll?
[04:02] <SeveredCross> Maybe...I don't remember.
[04:02] <cables> KalleDK, ctrl-alt-left or right
[04:02] <daifunai> i'm in the configure screen for sun-java
[04:02] <KalleDK> Thx
[04:02] <_unfyjr> configure the network
[04:02] <daifunai> and i'm stuck here
[04:02] <bruenig> digitize, do grep cdrom /etc/fstab and paste the output
[04:02] <SeveredCross> Oh, right, I forgot Gnome uses 2.
[04:02] <_unfyjr> network autoconfig failed
[04:03] <SeveredCross> _unfyjr: Does your network have DHCP?
[04:03] <bruenig> daifunai, use tab to get to the ok
[04:03] <dpak> ant: thank you I will read up on it
[04:03] <bh_> daifunai: use tab
[04:03] <digitize> SeveredCross bruenig my dvd rom: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:03] <daifunai> i hate it when you do that
[04:03] <ravi_master> michael117: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11603/
[04:03] <bruenig> daifunai, that threw me off to, I was hammering those arrows
[04:03] <_unfyjr> your network is probably not using the DHCP protocol alternatively the dhcp server may be slow or some network hardware is not working properfely?
[04:03] <_unfyjr> should i just continue?
[04:03] <bruenig> digitize, looks good
[04:03] <ravi_master> michael117: I used the autoinstaller provided by beryl wiki, it seems to have replaced my xorg, I replaced it back, now I am able to login but I get a grey version of gnome with very slow windows etc.
[04:03] <digitize> bruenig: i know... yet it doesn't work :(
[04:04] <cyris> hey everyone, does netfilter have a default allow ? iptables -L shows an ACCEPT all anywhere anywhere for my INPUT and OUTPUT chains, which is not in my script :S
[04:04] <cables> Does anyone know why Synaptic, when installing multiple packages, doesn't start installing a package when it completes downloading?
[04:04] <michael117> ravi_master: Try right clicking on the beryl icon in the tray and then select window manager> beryl
[04:05] <GrubMan> i just download the Edgy from Web.. And burn it.. now i boot from cd. And check the disc.. In Return give me Error " 3 Checksum Faild" Press Any Key to Reboot :<> can i install if i get sucha this error?
[04:05] <bruenig> cables, you mean it downloads them all first and then installs them
[04:05] <cables> GrubMan, that was either a corrupted download, bad burn, or bad cd
[04:05] <cables> bruenig, yep
[04:05] <GrubMan> cables: so i cant install edgy from it?
[04:05] <ravi_master> michael117: will try once in xgl again, just sec
[04:05] <rollerce> good evening peopls
[04:05] <bruenig> cables, It does that from the command line too
[04:06] <digitize> bruenig: http://www.geocities.com/d1g17123/dvd-perm.png
[04:06] <bruenig> cables, does seem like perhaps it could speed up the process a bit
[04:06] <michael117> ravi_master: wait...
[04:06] <cables> GrubMan, try downloading it again and burning it again
[04:06] <cables> bruenig, that's true
[04:06] <cyris> no iptable pros around ?
[04:06] <daifunai> bruenig, severedcross, thanks for putting up with my idiocy
[04:06] <daifunai> :D
[04:06] <cables> bruenig, especially with updates... I'm installing Feisty in a VM, and it's taking ages.
[04:06] <bruenig> digitize, is there any problems though with it being owned by root?
[04:06] <michael117> ravi_master: I get the same kind of behavior with really slow windows when XGL is running but without beryl
[04:06] <cables> bruenig, updating feisty actually
[04:06] <rollerce> I;m gonna have to throw some more idiocy out there :(
[04:06] <bruenig> s/is/are/
[04:06] <digitize> bruenig: that's with the line i pasted from /etc/fstab
[04:06] <GrubMan> cables; can i install it from windows? means can i install it from backup?
[04:06] <digitize> bruenig: i have no file access
[04:06] <cables> GrubMan, backup of what?
[04:06] <digitize> bruenig: and i cannot change that setting
[04:06] <rollerce> can anyone help me with some driver issues?
[04:07] <ant> !ask
[04:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:07] <GrubMan> cables backup of edgy. i have .iso in backup in HD
[04:07] <ravi_master> michael117: I was trying to mess around with the menu on beryl but beryl, beryl-xgl, and mono "closed unexpectedly" errors ensued.
[04:07] <rollerce> ok, I need to get drivers for my dell inspiron 6400.
[04:07] <bruenig> digitize, sudo chown $(whoami):$(whoami) /media/cdrom1 maybe
[04:07] <kjm> I just downloaded gtk-gnutella using apt. When I try to start it, I get this error -
[04:07] <kjm> *** ANCIENT VERSION DETECTED! ***
[04:07] <kjm> Sorry, this program is too ancient to run without
[04:07] <kjm> an explicit user action: If it's not possible to upgrade
[04:07] <kjm> you may edit the file
[04:07] <kjm>         /home/kjmacken/.gtk-gnutella/config_gnet
[04:07] <kjm> and set the variable "ancient_version_force" to
[04:07] <kjm> "gtk-gnutella/0.96.1 (2006-02-22; GTK2; Linux i686)".
[04:07] <kjm> You will then be able to run this version forever, but
[04:07] <ant> rollerce : what drivers?
[04:07] <bruenig> what an idiot
[04:07] <kjm> please consider upgrading, as Gnutella is an evolving
[04:07] <kjm> network in which ancient software is less useful or even
[04:08] <rollerce> I need the broadcom wireless card, broadcom bluetooth card and the ati mobility x1300
[04:08] <michael117> ravi_master: wait... did you just recently use the automated beryl script from the beryl wiki page?
[04:08] <kjm> harmful!
[04:08] <kjm> *** EXITING ***
[04:08] <kjm> 
[04:08] <kjm> oops, sorry about the flood
[04:08] <bruenig> kjm, sorry about the flood?
[04:08] <ant> tony where you at?
[04:08] <GrubMan> kjm dont copy paste.. such a big lines.
[04:08] <ravi_master> michael117: just a few minutes ago
[04:08] <rollerce> *squished under massive post*
[04:08] <bruenig> kjm, what did you think would happen
[04:08] <digitize> bruenig: nothing :(
[04:08] <cables> GrubMan, do you know how to use md5?
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> ant: Around....
[04:08] <ant> lol
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> But not paying close attention
[04:08] <GrubMan> cables: no i am overall new.
[04:08] <ravi_master> michael117: I was wary that it might be doing something wrong...
[04:08] <daifunai> one more thing! XD this is sounding more like a jackie chan animated thing...um, bruenig, i'm wondering how to run .theme files for kde....i'm getting that weird altimit os theme off of wikipedia
[04:08] <eV64> !binarydriver | rollerce
[04:08] <ubotu> rollerce: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:08] <daifunai> :P
[04:08] <cables> GrubMan, you may have gotten a corrupted download, so try downloading again.
[04:08] <bruenig> digitize, do ls -l /media
[04:08] <daifunai> ya know, the one from .hack
[04:08] <ant> tonyyarusso : just messin with ya, we'll live
[04:08] <eV64> rollerce, that is for your video card
[04:08] <michael117> ravi_master: You keep getting close but then messing with things again
[04:09] <kjm> bruenig - I apologized - I thought I removed the carriage returns - terribly sorry that my few excessive lines of code have put you out this evening.
[04:09] <bruenig> daifunai, go to #kubuntu for that information
[04:09] <cables> !md5 > me
[04:09] <digitize> bruenig: dr-xr-xr-x  1 root     root      128 2006-11-03 00:12 cdrom1
[04:09] <daifunai> ok
[04:09] <bruenig> it wasn't code
[04:09] <GrubMan> cables : dont have gud Speed :< i download it from download Accelerator.
[04:09] <ravi_master> michael117: yeah, I'm sorry, I just wanted beryl reinstalled
[04:09] <michael117> ravi_master: make sure your xorg.conf looks good and that your startxgl.sh is executable with chmod +x
[04:09] <bruenig> digitize, are you sure chowning isn't working?
[04:09] <cables> !md5 | GrubMan
[04:09] <ubotu> GrubMan: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:09] <kjm> bruenig : once again, I apologize for my misuse of your language.  Obviously I should be stoned to death now.
[04:10] <digitize> bruenig: yeah, not able to play dvds
[04:10] <nkayhan> rollerce: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29#head-f81347abfd1a9542276e210460e6ecd5fb49fd1a
[04:10] <eV64> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:10] <digitize> errr, well that doesn't matter, i still see it only be owned by root
[04:10] <bruenig> you didn't give a crap about the flood, you flooded knowing you would apologize afterwards because you were to lazy to pastebin, that is the only problem
[04:10] <ravi_master> michael117: I replaced that file with the backup the script created (what I had before)
[04:10] <eV64> nkayhan, i dont like ndiswrapper
[04:10] <ravi_master> michael117: and I just chmodded the startxg
[04:10] <eV64> lol
[04:11] <bruenig> digitize, sudo chown username /media/cdrom1
[04:11] <nkayhan> ev64: what's your solution?
[04:11] <neozen> did I miss something?
[04:11] <eV64> nkayhan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:11] <bruenig> digitize, cdrom1 is just a folder, it should be able to be chowned
[04:11] <kjm> bruenig - actually - it was a goddam honest error - I had the wrong window open when trying to paste into a pastbin.  Now, I have fucking apologized, so drop the damn thing.
[04:11] <michael117> ravi_master: hold on... my firefox just crashed
[04:11] <neozen> meep
[04:11] <bruenig> !ohmy
[04:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:11] <KalleDK> Aaah I love Beryl
[04:12] <phaethon_> Can someone recommend a video card w/ open source drivers of about smiler performance to a 7600GS it will be replacing?
[04:12] <GionnyBoss> cables: I read before that you have Synaptic that doesn't move when installing something. Did you try to visualize more info? You will see a sort of terminal where sometimes you have to do something (for example, answering some questions ... ) It happened to me. So if you open it and you do what it says, then Synaptic will continue its work
[04:12] <kjm> Now, I am trying to get gtk-gnutella to run, just apt-got it - on start I get the FOLLOWING error - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11604/
[04:12] <michael117> Anyone have troubles with an unstable firefox that crashes? I did have like 170 tabs going, but I have 1.5 GB of ram and linux is great with ram
[04:12] <ravi_master> michael117: YES!
[04:12] <neozen> hoallo ravi
[04:12] <lunaz> hi
[04:12] <ravi_master> michael117: got some effects
[04:12] <nkayhan> eV64: he doesn't even have the driver
[04:12] <cables> GionnyBoss, I'm not having a problem, and I know that, but I'm just curious about something.
[04:12] <ravi_master> michael117: got effects from beryl
[04:12] <michael117> ravi_master: Wobbly?
[04:12] <ravi_master> michael117: hell yes
[04:12] <michael117> ravi_master: What did you do differently?
[04:12] <GionnyBoss> cables: ok sorry, I misunderstood you
[04:13] <lunaz> i'm having issues configuring my ati x800
[04:13] <KalleDK> Just love to drag windows and shift workspace
[04:13] <michael117> ravi_master: Old config or new xorg config?
[04:13] <eV64> nkayhan,  you can download it via a link on the page
[04:13] <ravi_master> michael117: same old xorg
[04:13] <neozen> !omy | ravi_master
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about omy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <michael117> ravi_master: From the wiki script or the one you had previously?
[04:13] <neozen> lol
[04:13] <ravi_master> michael117: just chmodded
[04:13] <matthew1429> does anyone know a good alarm program that will wake the computer out of screensaver/suspend and play music?
[04:13] <Dacvak> Hi there, is it ok if I ask a question?
[04:13] <michael117> ravi_master: see... it was something simple lik ethat
[04:13] <neozen> matthew..... nope
[04:13] <ravi_master> michael117: hold on, but the theme looks ugly
[04:13] <Dacvak> IS there a way to share my linux files with my Windows network?
[04:14] <SeveredHead> Samba!
[04:14] <neozen> Dacvak: yeah
[04:14] <michael117> ravi_master: Yeah, make sure you have emerald and then change it
[04:14] <SeveredHead> sudo apt-get install samba
[04:14] <SeveredHead> :)
[04:14] <Dacvak> How would I do that?
[04:14] <neozen> Dacvak: look into sharing via samba
[04:14] <kjm> Dacvak - yes, look into samba
[04:14] <ravi_master> michael117: I mean the really bad grey looking bars, I have emerald
[04:14] <matthew1429> are you telling me this need hasn't popped up for anyone yet?
[04:14] <ardchoille> Beryl talk/support in #ubuntu-effects
[04:14] <neozen> matthew1429: most people use their screensaver as a security mechanism
[04:14] <rollerce> yay, I;m back for real?
[04:15] <matthew1429> okay
[04:15] <matthew1429> take out the screen saver
[04:15] <michael117> ravi_master: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki   I remember seeing something about that there
[04:15] <ant> he wants an alarm clock i think.
[04:15] <ravi_master> michael117: but wait, when I try to launch any app, gdm crashes on me
[04:15] <neozen> matthew1429: yeah... no problem
[04:15] <matthew1429> Im just having trouble finding a suitable alarm clock
[04:15] <rollerce> so did I miss any help about the wireless card?
[04:15] <bruenig> matthew1429, use cron
[04:15] <sp0ro> Anyone know any laptop retailers that ship laptops out without an OS installed?
[04:15] <neozen> matthew1429: I've used a java one on sourceforge called Alarm_X
[04:15] <GionnyBoss> Dacvak: if you pc with Windows shares some files, just access it opening Nautilus and writing in the address bar smb://windows_computer_ip_address . (you have to be sure that you have smb-client installed, but normally you have). If you want to share something from your Ubuntu computer, read an howto on how to set up a samba server
[04:15] <michael117> sp0ro: It'll cost you more
[04:15] <digitize> !feisty
[04:15] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:15] <ravi_master> michael117: so, for example, when I try to launch gedit, gdm crashes on me
[04:16] <rbil> matthew1429: just write a cronjob that will launch a media player and play some music at the time of day you want it to happen
[04:16] <ant> rollerce : you might have some trouble getting that broadcom to work, good luck
[04:16] <sp0ro> michael117: Wow, that's sad.
[04:16] <Dacvak> thanks man
[04:16] <ant> !broadcom | rollerce
[04:16] <ubotu> rollerce: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:16] <neozen> matthew1429: ..don't google..... just man
[04:16] <neozen> matthew1429: man cron
[04:16] <matthew1429> thx
[04:16] <sp0ro> Seems as if dell makes the cheapest laptops for the hardware you get if that's the case. :/
[04:16] <neozen> matthew1429: in a terminal
[04:16] <matthew1429> copy that
[04:16] <neozen> matthew1429: cool
[04:17] <michael117> sp0ro: yeah... that's what MS does to rape us and suppress what could be a linux revolution... well, if linux becomes completely user friendly
[04:17] <rollerce> dell certainly has the best warranties
[04:17] <bruenig> matthew1429, basically the idea is to have a media player open a music file. If you can select the media player and file and the time of day you want, I or someone else can help with the cronjob
[04:17] <ravi_master> michael117: did you see my comments?
[04:17] <Differ> I just installed Edgy Eft
[04:17] <Differ> dual-boot configuration
[04:17] <ant> i got lucky with my dell, i got the intel chipset
[04:17] <waxyfresh> has there been any updates latlely?i havent seen aupdate in like a week
[04:17] <michael117> ravi_master: Do you mean that it just restarts xorg?
[04:17] <Differ> with a swap partition
[04:17] <Differ> but my internet doesn't work
[04:17] <ravi_master> michael117: yep
[04:17] <Differ> I'm using a custom internet chip, which has an extra outlet
[04:17] <neozen> ant: as did I with my thinkpad
[04:18] <ravi_master> michael117: I am soooo close
[04:18] <michael117> ravi_master: Did you press shift+backspace by accident?
[04:18] <ant> neozen : everything worked out of the box :)
[04:18] <neozen> ant: same here.... isn't it GREAT>!>!!??!
[04:18] <ravi_master> michael117: don't think so, this happens everytime I launch an application
[04:18] <neozen> lol
[04:18] <waxyfresh> michael117: isint it ctrl shift backspace? or does shuft backspace work too?
[04:18] <waxyfresh> shift*
[04:18] <neozen> now I know why I spent $1k
[04:18] <Differ> how can I get a driver for my internet card, if Ubuntu doesn't have internet?
[04:18] <SeveredHead> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace restarts X.
[04:19] <GrubMan> can anyone help me with md5sum.exe
[04:19] <ant> neozen : it makes liking ubuntu much easier
[04:19] <bruenig> GrubMan, what do you need help with?
[04:19] <neozen> ant: a fullsized keyboard with a sane layout...... and peace of mind
[04:19] <michael117> waxyfresh: Ctrl+alt+backspace restarts xorg, but shift+backspace is a bug in xgl that will do i
[04:19] <michael117> it
[04:19] <lunaz> i'm trying to configure my xorg using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but i'm stuck on step 1 :P i don't see radeon in the list, just ati, and when i try ati it messes things up
[04:19] <waxyfresh> i also keep experiancing X restarts
[04:19] <kjm> thanks for the help bruenig - I found the solution.  You are an excellent human being.
[04:19] <rbil> GrubMan: just run at a DOS prompt ... md5sum filename.iso   in the directory where the iso is
[04:19] <ant> GrubMan : if your cd is corrupt you shouldn't use it, its simple.. if you do and it doesnt work right, will you be surprised?
[04:19] <GrubMan> i downloaded it from web. and put in windows\system32 folder . now what i do? how i verify my edgy in windows?
[04:20] <neozen> GrubMan: you don't need md5sum.exe .... linux has md5sum
[04:20] <zero88> how can i get totem to play live stream videos like the ones on yahoo movies or equip totem with all the source files i need to play them???
[04:20] <michael117> GrubMan: Wait, wtf are you trying to do?
[04:20] <Romeon> when i run a make, i get a error saying libtcl8.4.so cannot open shared object file. No such file or directory.. Any idea how i can fix this?
[04:20] <rbil> neozen: apparently he's trying to install Ubuntu
[04:20] <bruenig> kjm, ok next time though just a tip, don't say you thought you took out the carriage returns and then right after that say you pasted it in the wrong window by accident. Keeping the lie straight is the first rule.
[04:20] <GrubMan> michael117: plz Be cool. im new so dont know nothing.
[04:20] <neozen> perhaps he doesn't trust the cds off the site
[04:20] <lunaz> afk laundry check
[04:20] <gaillard_> quick question if you guys don't mind
[04:20] <ant> GrubMan : if your cd is corrupt you shouldn't use it, its simple.. if you do and it doesnt work right, will you be surprised?
[04:20] <michael117> GrubMan: Don't take it in a bad way, just asking
[04:20] <GrubMan> michael117: trying to get.. some info. or help.
[04:20] <ravi_master> michael117: I'm really having some trouble with xorg restarting on me whenever I try to use apps
[04:21] <riotkittie> ljuo
[04:21] <riotkittie> err.
[04:21] <gregcha117> im trying to install vmware-server and i keep getting this :what is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/user/src/linux/include] 
[04:21] <neozen> if you got your iso off an ubuntu mirror, its authentic mon
[04:21] <GrubMan> ant i just burn it from .iso image.
[04:21] <gaillard_> I would like to format and partition my usb drive and then using the regular livecd install ubuntu on it, BUT it keeps mounting itself
[04:21] <gaillard_> any ideas?
[04:21] <notoriousE> hola
[04:21] <notoriousE> so
[04:21] <bulmer> Romeon: do you have libtcl8.4
[04:21] <michael117> ravi_master: Hmm... I've never had that... check on the beryl wiki or ask in #beryl
[04:21] <kjm> bruenig - glad you investigated - really, shows how much free time you have.  Thanks for the excellent assistance; again, you are a wonderful and tolerant human being.
[04:21] <notoriousE> i'm using Feisty and the update manager stops responding a lot
[04:21] <Differ> I just installed edgy, and my "My Computer" folder has a file without a name in Windows XP
[04:21] <GrubMan> ant: just want to check my Backup iso is crupt or its cd fault
[04:21] <ant> GrubMan : the checksum comes back with an error.. its corrupt/no good
[04:21] <notoriousE> like the downloads stall
[04:21] <notoriousE> how do i fix this
[04:21] <DaSkreech> mbonnick: Hello
[04:21] <michael117> GrubMan: Are you trying to install edgy or what?
[04:22] <gregcha117> im trying to install vmware-server and i keep getting this :what is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/user/src/linux/include] 
[04:22] <GrubMan> michael117 ya trying to install edgy
[04:22] <DaSkreech> mbonnick: How goes?
[04:22] <Romeon> bulmer: I downloaded tcl 8.4 and installed it
[04:22] <Differ> may I delete this file?
[04:22] <bruenig> kjm, you are funny. It is a good attempt to try to reverse it. But your intentional flood makes you the ass. That you couldn't keep your lie straight and my calling you on it, does not turn the guilt away from you as much as you would like it to.
[04:22] <neozen> notoriousE: feisty support is in #ubuntu+1 mate
[04:22] <DarkED> I've got a serious problem here ... any time I run an intensive app like AmaroK or Beryl my system locks. It's odd because I can still move my mouse, i just can't do anything with it
[04:22] <gaillard_> could someone pm me that knows about formating usb disks?
[04:22] <riotkittie> boys, boys.
[04:22] <michael117> GrubMan: Download the ISO from a mirror on the ubuntu website then burn it and boot to it and you will boot to the live cd and an install icon on the desktop
[04:22] <ant> GrubMan : if the cd is no good then the iso that is on it is no good.
[04:23] <neozen> riotkittie: girls, girls, girls!
[04:23] <ant> GrubMan : it sucks but you have to redownload it or order a free cd
[04:23] <neozen> lol
[04:23] <GrubMan> ant: maybe my Writer fault? or Cd ? isn't possible?
[04:23] <rbil> gregcha117: try this ... /usr/include/linux
[04:23] <zero88> how do i install codecs for totem???
[04:23] <ant> GrubMan : thats very possible, but despite the reason its no good
[04:23] <GrubMan> ant: i just download a fresh copy.
[04:23] <gaillard_> would someone mind helping me for 2 secs in a pm about usb disks?
[04:23] <neozen> !codecs | zero88
[04:23] <ubotu> zero88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:23] <ravi_master> michael117: screw this, effects are over-rated anyways :/
[04:24] <ant> !pm
[04:24] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[04:24] <calc> anyone here know much about dns?
[04:24] <gaillard_> I did =)
[04:24] <bruenig> ravi_master, true
[04:24] <Ax3> its an acronym
[04:24] <neozen> calc: I know not to mess with it when it works
[04:24] <gaillard_> I am trying to format a usb disk so I can install ubuntu on it but it mounts itself
[04:24] <Ax3> :D
[04:24] <gaillard_> its a flash drive
[04:24] <neozen> calc: ::grins::
[04:24] <michael117> ravi_master: Wtf, you spend so much time and you're so close and then just blah... you give up?
[04:24] <calc> when does a new nameserver take over, i thought it would happen when the IN NS record on the old one went to 0
[04:24] <mbonnick> hi everyone. I have a weird problem. when i try to browse, firefox give a timeout error. I can ping the URL and browse directly to the IP address
[04:24] <DaSkreech> mbonnick: yo
[04:24] <bulmer> gaillard what has been mount can be unmounted
[04:24] <wyld> is there an easy fix to a grub 17 error?
[04:24] <calc> it seems to be more complicated than that though?
[04:25] <mbonnick> DaSkreech
[04:25] <SeveredHead> mbonnick: Sounds like your DNS is down.
[04:25] <gaillard_> I do unmount it, but during the format it mounts itself!
[04:25] <gaillard_> =P
[04:25] <ravi_master> michael117: proprietary is as proprietary does.
[04:25] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: Nope
[04:25] <waxyfresh> ravi_master: he has a point
[04:25] <neozen> calc: you've lost me mate
[04:25] <calc> eg
[04:25] <mbonnick> how do i direct messages to specific persons? im kinda new to IRC
[04:25] <calc> cheney.cx. 2900 IN NS dns4.surpasshosting.com.
[04:25] <SeveredHead> DNS is fine, but you can't browse? That's very strange.
[04:25] <gaillard_> bulmer: its like the darn none dead
[04:25] <DaSkreech> !tab | mbonnick
[04:25] <ubotu> mbonnick: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:25] <bruenig> !prefix
[04:25] <ubotu> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[04:25] <ravi_master> michael117: I'll just back this xorg config up, figure it out later
[04:26] <bulmer> gaillard_: come again?
[04:26] <michael117> ravi_master: Work at it again tomorrow or in a week or something
[04:26] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: Yeah Until you ping the site
[04:26] <mbonnick> !ubotu Thanks
[04:26] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:26] <bruenig> ha
[04:26] <bruenig> awesome when that works out
[04:26] <gaillard_> bulmer: I unmount it in gparted and then try and put fat32 on it and during the format it mounts itself
[04:26] <ravi_master> michael117: it freaking white-screened my gdm login screen, everytime I boot up now, I have a white-screen-wash of my login screen.
[04:26] <DaSkreech> bruenig: :-)
[04:26] <mbonnick> Thanks | ubotu
[04:26] <michael117> ravi_master: I agree that it can be a bitch to set up but once it's up, it pwns and is actually quite helpful and improve my productivity because of the cube
[04:26] <bruenig> mbonnick, you need the ! in front of thanks
[04:26] <neozen> !botsnack
[04:26] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy
[04:26] <DaSkreech> mbonnick: Ubotu is a bot. He appreciates snacks though
[04:26] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:26] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[04:26] <bulmer> gaillard you may have to play around with pmount to prevent it from auto mounting
[04:26] <mbonnick> !botsnack
[04:27] <DaSkreech> mbonnick: Right back to the problem at hand
[04:27] <mbonnick> !tab | DaSkreech
[04:27] <ubotu> DaSkreech: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:27] <mbonnick> hmmm
[04:27] <gaillard_> bulmer: Ok but should there be any problem installing to fat32 flash disk (4 gigs)?
[04:27] <ravi_master> michael117: cube isn't really what I want' I consider that eyecandy. Small things like slight opacity and window previews are what improve productivity
[04:27] <mbonnick> i still don't get how to address you directly
[04:27] <neozen> lol.... I think the bot is full
[04:27] <spikeb> i like the shadows.
[04:27] <michael117> ravi_master: What what-screened your gdm?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> mbonnick: He piped his response into a person
[04:27] <bruenig> mbonnick, just put his name in front of our message like this
[04:27] <neozen> calc: sorry mon... I just don't know about dns
[04:27] <bruenig> s/our/your/
[04:27] <DaSkreech>  You can also redirect it with >
[04:27] <spikeb> that and the fading are all i use compiz/beryl for
[04:28] <Galga> hi, how can i install realplayerGold10 and yahoo messenger. I have downloaded both of the files
[04:28] <michael117> ravi_master: Well, I never used the multiple desktops before until I had the cube and could just to to the side of the screen and scroll and have it rotate to the next face of the cube
[04:28] <bulmer> gaillard_: am not aware of problems with it, try and see if it gives you good vibes
[04:28] <neozen> calc: might want to direct your question to the room
[04:28] <mbonnick> DaSkreech: Is this it?
[04:28] <ravi_master> my gdm login screen is white-washed and I can't login, can move my mouse but can't logon
[04:28] <bruenig> Galga, you don't want yahoo messenger, believe me
[04:28] <DaSkreech> mbonnick: Yup
[04:28] <lunaz> back
[04:28] <gaillard_> bulmer: Thanks a lot bud, hope you have a good night!
[04:28] <mbonnick> DaSkreech: lovely. now we may proceed
[04:28] <DaSkreech> Just type the first 4 or 5 letters and hit tab
[04:28] <bruenig> Galga, what is the full name of the real player bin file and where is it located
[04:28] <michael117> ravi_master: The beryl wiki script's xorg.conf or the old one or what?
[04:28] <bulmer> gaillard_: you enjoy too
[04:28] <ravi_master> michael117: I'll fix it, simple swap of open source driver xorg file
[04:29] <dewrad> lol u guyz r boring
[04:29] <neozen> ravi_master: bummer mon
[04:29] <caiqian> If I found a bug in Debian packages, and I can confirm it is in Ubuntu as well. Shall I copy debian bug report to ubuntu as well?
[04:29] <Galga> bruenig, i agree. but when i tried to use the available one and had a chat with my friend, he found out that i m not using windows
[04:29] <ravi_master> neozen: so close....
[04:29] <gregcha117> rbil: i typed that and it said bash in front of my name in terminal and didnt do anything other than say "/usr/include/linux" is a directory
[04:29] <Galga> bruenig, its RealPlayerGold10.bin located at my desktop
[04:29] <neozen> ravi_master: sounds like your brightness setting got wonked by something
[04:29] <DaSkreech> caiqian: technically fixing it on Debian fixes it on ubuntu
[04:29] <bruenig> Galga, why does it matter you aren't using windows
[04:29] <ravi_master> neozen: believe me, it isn't the brightness setting :-)
[04:29] <DaSkreech> caiqian: If Debian isn't going to fix it though ....
[04:29] <mbonnick> DaSkreech: strange. its acting up again. i can connect to the main repository anymore
[04:29] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: See?
[04:29] <eV64> real player alternative
[04:30] <michael117> ravi_master: Let me post my xorg.conf just for good measure so you can compare in case of anything
[04:30] <bruenig> Galga, for real player, cd ~/Desktop && chmod +x RealPlayerGold10.bin && ./RealPlayerGold10.bin
[04:30] <eV64> real sucks!
[04:30] <ravi_master> michael117: thanks
[04:30] <neozen> ravi_master: bios get pwned?
[04:30] <rbil> gregcha117: well u'll probably get better help here ... /join #vmware
[04:30] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: it's strange. you suddenly don't have a route to the net through GUI apps it seems
[04:30] <SeveredHead> Hmmm.
[04:30] <SeveredHead> Interesting.
[04:30] <ravi_master> neozen: what are you talking about?
[04:30] <SeveredHead> I've never had that problem.
[04:30] <GrubMan> if i found a file with problem through md5sum. then can i get that seprate file ? and put back in dir?
[04:30] <caiqian> DaSkreech: but how do Ubuntu know there is a grave bug in the package? Does ubuntu will be informed if there is a bug in Debian package?
[04:30] <waxyfresh> have there been any updates for 6.10 useng  all the source-o-matic reposin the past week?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> caiqian: yes
[04:31] <mbonnick> !botsnack
[04:31] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:31] <michael117> ravi_master: http://mglad.homeip.net/linux/xorg.txt
[04:31] <neozen> ravi_master: possible causes for your screen washing out
[04:31] <bruenig> !english | GrubMan
[04:31] <ubotu> GrubMan: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:31] <ravi_master> neozen: it was just the proprietary driver going crazy on me with xgl and all
[04:31] <KalleDK> Hmm ones I felt over a site at the forum or the wiki with a large "comversion" so which program matches witch program from windowsa
[04:31] <gregcha117> rbil: thanks
[04:31] <KalleDK> Any know where this was
[04:31] <ravi_master> neozen: got it back now with open source drivers
[04:31] <caiqian> DaSkreech: where can i find this kind of information
[04:31] <neozen> ravi_master: ah... that'd do it
[04:31] <DaSkreech> !bugs
[04:31] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:31] <neozen> ravi_master: sucks when drivers don't play well with others
[04:31] <bruenig> caiqian, what is the package and what is the bug
[04:32] <caiqian> bruenig: I have not filled yet.
[04:32] <bruenig> caiqian, but I assume you know what it is...
[04:32] <DaSkreech> caiqian: I'm not telling you to not file the bug. Just letting you know that if it gets fixed in Debian it will get fixed in Ubuntu as well
[04:33] <ravi_master> neozen: blah.. I hate ATI
[04:33] <r4nge> does ssh call the /bin/login program after "login: " like getty does?
[04:33] <neozen> ravi_master: meh.... I just have an older ati rage card
[04:33] <caiqian> bruenig: I am going to submit a patch and then fire it to Debian BTS
[04:33] <DaSkreech> mbonnick: I guess you don't have a registered name on IRC?
[04:33] <catid> the respawn COMMAND stanza no longer works in event.d right?
[04:33] <katani> shaun_: are you still having problems with the NTP server
[04:33] <neozen> ravi_master: I use it to serve text on my console server
[04:33] <ravi_master> it's funny because when compiz first came out I got it to work with xgl and ati drivers
[04:33] <neozen> ravi_master: seems to do that just fine, I can't complain
[04:33] <catid> how should we do that same thing now in event.d?
[04:34] <SeanM-IA> Hello all - new Ubuntu user here.  Got a question about Ubuntu and Firefox.
[04:34] <Pollywog> caiqian: to Debian BTS?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> !ask | SeanM-IA
[04:34] <ubotu> SeanM-IA: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:34] <neozen> SeanM-IA: ok
[04:34] <ant> nvidia ownz
[04:34] <quaal> anyone know of a guide for setting up linux raid in ubuntu
[04:34] <neozen> !raid
[04:34] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:34] <DaSkreech> !raid
[04:34] <quaal> is it something i do from within ubuntu or..
[04:34] <willcotton> my install is stuck on "Loading module 'usb-storage' for 'USB storage'... " anyone wanna help me?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> damn :-(
[04:34] <neozen> there you go
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy
[04:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:34] <caiqian> Pollywog: yes. submit@bugs.debian.org
[04:34] <quaal> DaSkreech, thanks.
[04:34] <ravi_master> neozen: but you can't defend what ATI has done for it's linux drivers, disgusting, just like ubuntu network install capability, disgusting.
[04:34] <Pollywog> caiqian: this is for a Debian package?
[04:34] <willcotton> my install is stuck on "Loading module 'usb-storage' for 'USB storage'... " anyone wanna help me?
[04:34] <neozen> lol
[04:35] <quaal> DaSkreech, no thats not it
[04:35] <SeanM-IA> It's kind of weird...  at work, on my network there, Firefox works just fine.  When I get home, Firefox does not seem to resolve properly.  From a Terminal window, DNS works with no problems.
[04:35] <Pollywog> because they don't want to know about Ubuntu problems over there
[04:35] <Pollywog> or so it seems
[04:35] <ant> !install | willcotton
[04:35] <ubotu> willcotton: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[04:35] <SeanM-IA> I can resolve www.google.com in a term window no sweat.
[04:35] <caiqian> Pollywog: But it is an unverse package. the bug happened in both Debian and Ubuntu
[04:35] <neozen> can't really say anything really.............. since I haven't had to futz with it yet
[04:35] <Pollywog> caiqian: oic
[04:35] <DaSkreech> SeanM-IA: Ha same problem that mbonnick and I were talking about
[04:36] <SeanM-IA> But in Firefox, it just sits and spins.
[04:36] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: Never rains eh?
[04:36] <neozen> ravi_master: like I said the only ati I have ... I use to serve text
[04:36] <SeveredHead> Hmm.
[04:36] <caiqian> DaSkreech: So it is safe to only fire the bug report to Debian then.
[04:36] <neozen> ravi_master: which it seems to do just fine
[04:36] <SeveredHead> I don't quite understand what the issue could be.
[04:36] <ravi_master> seriously, ubuntu needs to step up it's game when it comes to network install. I mean, look at suse, fedora, etc. they can all be installed through ftp, http, local, remote, whatever. Try to setup ubuntu network install and you'll be sitting there trying to create a tftp server and pxe servers.
[04:36] <SeanM-IA> Hmmm...  so I'm not the only one then.
[04:36] <DaSkreech> caiqian: safer to shoot to both
[04:36] <neozen> ravi_master: now.... if it couldn't do that................
[04:36] <d0lph1n> anyone have a good link for heterogeneous multi-monitor howto?
[04:36] <shaun_> katani: yeah
[04:36] <neozen> !xinerama
[04:36] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:36] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: I've seen it happen for at least 6 computers noe
[04:37] <DaSkreech> SeanM-IA: Where are you from?
[04:37] <SeanM-IA> Iowa.
[04:37] <ant> ravi_master : what about kickstart? i dunno much about it though
[04:37] <ravi_master> ant: what about it?
[04:37] <SeanM-IA> Just starting to work with Ubuntu.
[04:37] <SeanM-IA> I like it so far.
[04:37] <neozen> !DualHead > d0lph1n
[04:37] <ant> isnt that a network install
[04:37] <DaSkreech> Hmm so it's not a Caribbean issue then
[04:37] <ant> that works
[04:37] <DaSkreech> SeanM-IA: Welcome :)
[04:37] <neozen> get that d0lph1n?
[04:37] <ravi_master> no idea what you're talking about, only kickstart I know of is in old redhat distros
[04:38] <waxyfresh> Seveas: have there been any updates for 6.10 in the past week? im useng  all the source-o-matic repos?
[04:38] <SeanM-IA> I have it loaded on a Dell laptop.  Figured out the hard way about Broadcom NICs.  :-)
[04:38] <katani> shaun_: see http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/HowTo_Setup_an_NTP_Server_for_Time_Synchronization
[04:38] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: Would you know how we can track the net activity of Firefox?
[04:38] <ravi_master> waxyfresh: what is seveas doing here?
[04:38] <wyld> **quick question, what's ekiga, and why is taking forever to set up?
[04:38] <DaSkreech> mbonnick: ever used Wireshark?
[04:38] <katani> shaun_: It specifically mentions the error you were having
[04:38] <ardchoille> !ekiga
[04:38] <ubotu> ekiga: H.323 and SIP compatible VOIP client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 3582 kB, installed size 12568 kB
[04:38] <SeanM-IA> Running 6.06 - have not yet updated to 6.10.
[04:39] <wyld> thanks
[04:39] <shaun_> katani: alright thanks, i'm looking at it right now
[04:39] <waxyfresh> ravi_master: hes not here?
[04:39] <SeveredHead> DaSkreech: Ethereal?
[04:39] <SeveredHead> Capture packets on port 80 and inspect them.
[04:39] <albertolempira> hey guys i got no settings on the nVidia X Server Settings windows...what can i do?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: Wireshark now
[04:39] <Jrabbit> how cna i configure an ATA hard drive that I've pluggedninto my CDROM plugs?
[04:39] <SeveredHead> Oh, whatever, Wireshark.
[04:39] <SeveredHead> I haven't used it in a long time.
[04:39] <willcotton> !automate
[04:39] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[04:39] <greig_> !ati
[04:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <ravi_master> ok, bye guys, I've got to et to sleep
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Yeah I just taught a course with it the other day
[04:39] <DaSkreech>  only reason why I know
[04:40] <neozen> !DualHead
[04:40] <ravi_master> Jrabbit, you're screwed to infinity and beyond...
[04:40] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:40] <neozen> !Xinerama
[04:40] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:40] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: It happens with Synaptic as well though
[04:40] <DaSkreech> But apparently not irc or gaim
[04:40] <Jrabbit> ravi_master, thanks load of help.
[04:40] <Jrabbit> I only have SCSI
[04:40] <neozen> he's gone
[04:41] <Pollywog> It would be nice if upgrades were more seamless.  When I upgrade, a few things always get broken (configs) and I have to fix the configs.
[04:41] <neozen> lol
[04:41] <willcotton> my install is stuck on "Loading module 'usb-storage' for 'USB storage'... " anyone wanna help me?
[04:41] <neozen> this is why I don't update
[04:41] <albertolempira> hey guys i got no settings on the nVidia X Server Settings windows...what can i do? i'm using the latest nvidia driver 9755...
[04:41] <neozen> ...I backup /home
[04:41] <neozen> and whack out /
[04:41] <neozen> *dist-upgrade
[04:41] <Pollywog> I upgraded a Sarge system to Etch yesterday and I am still fixing stuff
[04:41] <neozen> dist upgrades are scary
[04:41] <DaSkreech> neozen: Get a Home partition :-P
[04:42] <waxyfresh> distro ypgrades are sexy
[04:42] <neozen> DaSkreech: one day skreech ... one day
[04:42] <willcotton> my install is stuck on "Loading module 'usb-storage' for 'USB storage'... " anyone wanna help me?
[04:42] <DaSkreech> willcotton: Hmm? how long?
[04:42] <zero88> help, i guess i still need more codecs for totem?how do i install them all?
[04:42] <SeanM-IA> DaSkreech - So my problem is a known bug of some sort, then?
[04:42] <DaSkreech> SeanM-IA: It's an unknown big
[04:42] <DaSkreech> bug
[04:42] <willcotton> DaSkreech: second time installing
[04:42] <katani> zero88: Which codecs do you need?
[04:42] <DaSkreech> willcotton: sticks at the same place?
[04:42] <willcotton> this times its been not moving for about 30mins
[04:42] <huck> does anyone know a command that will show the relative path of a file?
[04:42] <Differ> is there a way to get internet drivers for Ubuntu and install them using Windows?
[04:42] <willcotton> on 90%
[04:43] <willcotton> "Loading module 'usb-storage' for 'USB storage'... "
[04:43] <willcotton> wont get past that
[04:43] <neozen> !codecs > zero88
[04:43] <ant> willcotton : bad disc?
[04:43] <DaSkreech> willcotton: did a disc check?
[04:43] <willcotton> yes
[04:43] <zero88> katani um im not sure, imtrying to play videos off of yahoo movies, the movie trailers
[04:43] <lunaz> i'm trying to configure my xorg.conf using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but i'm stuck on step 1 :P i don't see radeon in the list, just ati, and when i try ati it messes things up by freezing my screen; so i had to fix it from the live cd. i miss my 1280*1028 :(
[04:43] <SeanM-IA> My next step was to try reinstalling Firefox, to see if that solved it.  But I guess that's already been tried.  :-)
[04:43] <DaSkreech> SeveredHead: Would it make sense to air this in #ubuntu-devel ?
[04:43] <waxyfresh> have there been any updates for 6.10 in the past week? im useng  all the source-o-matic repos and havent gotten ONE one!
[04:43] <SeveredHead> DaSkreech: Maybe.
[04:44] <ardchoille> lunaz: Did you install ati drivers?
[04:44] <SeveredHead> That could be helpful.
[04:44] <neozen> bye all
[04:44] <zero88> katani  Totem could not play 'http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=34848714=web=rd'.
[04:44] <Innova> If I have created a .deb for a package that isn't in a repository yet - can I submit it?  To who?
[04:44] <willcotton> anyone know how to fix
[04:44] <ant> neozen : stay outta trouble
[04:44] <ant> :P
[04:44] <rbil> lunaz: in xorg.conf just replace "ati" with "radeon" if you want the latter driver.
[04:44] <neozen> ant: I try... but it just keeps finding me
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> Innova: #ubuntu-motu for getting things in the repo, but that's source packages, no .debs.  For the .deb, send it to the upstream author and have them put it on the projects home page.
[04:45] <neozen> ant: fortunately it stays the 3$E@#$ away from my computer
[04:45] <lunaz> ardchollie:  i t hink i installed teh fglrx or whatever, but i dunnow how to find out if it works. i'm at the xorg conf thingy right now
[04:45] <lunaz> the blue screens
[04:45] <neozen> ant: I'd like to think I have linux to thank for that
[04:45] <lunaz> and it gives me a whole list of cards
[04:45] <DaSkreech> SeanM-IA: how do you like it so far?
[04:45] <Innova> tonyyarusso - thank you
[04:45] <jsmidt> I have no idea how to configure the xserver.  Can I get Ubuntu to do it for me by some command?
[04:45] <willcotton> my install is stuck on "Loading module 'usb-storage' for 'USB storage'... " anyone wanna help me?
[04:45] <ant> neozen : i'd agree
[04:45] <neozen>   byebye
[04:45] <ardchoille> Any ati guru's here that can give lunaz a hand?
[04:46] <skel> jsmidt: X -configure will generate an xorg.conf I think
[04:46] <lunaz> in order to install ubuntu i booted from live cd & change xorg.conf from 'ati' to 'radeon' and that did the trick
[04:46] <DaSkreech> lunaz: ask  in #ubuntu-effects
[04:46] <lunaz> but i cant change resolution
[04:46] <lunaz> k
[04:46] <waxyfresh> jsmidt: sudo apt-get -reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:46] <rbil> willcotton: do u have a usb disk attached to a usb port while trying to do this install?
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> !fixres | lunaz
[04:46] <ubotu> lunaz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:46] <willcotton> no
[04:46] <ant> i havent seen the words "blue screens" in a while
[04:46] <willcotton> i have nothing plugged into any usb ports
[04:46] <huck> anyone know the command to show the relative path?
[04:47] <huck> beuller??? beuller?? :D
[04:47] <calc> hmm is ubuntu feisty frozen now?
[04:47] <calc> all i see for today is a kernel update
[04:47] <rbil> willcotton: well it could have just stumbled. maybe just tryin installing again
[04:47] <DaSkreech> huck: why relative?
[04:47] <mneptok> jetscreamer: eep. opp. ork. uh uh.
[04:47] <willcotton> rbil:  i've tried it more then once
[04:47] <willcotton> always gets stuck at the same spot =\
[04:47] <noodles12> when mounting xp network drivs with smb4k and the folder is set to read/write. Why can't i copy folders over? it says permission denied?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> calc: #ubuntu+1
[04:47] <calc> ok
[04:47] <rbil> willcotton: sorry, never had that prob, so I can't be any help
[04:48] <rm_you> Are there any good guides for customizing the Edgy livecd? uck-gui isn't going to work for what I need to do :(
[04:48] <katani> zero88: I'm guessing that you'll need the AAC, the MPEG4, and the MPEG4-AVC codecs
[04:48] <willcotton> ugh
[04:48] <rbil> willcotton: i assume you've tried to google this problem?
[04:48] <willcotton> yes
[04:48] <willcotton> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+ticket/3650
[04:48] <ant> rm_you : you can use the minimal install with no gui.
[04:48] <skel> huck: what do you mean relative?
[04:48] <katani> zero88: that should work for the quicktime trailers
[04:48] <willcotton> only thing i found
[04:48] <rm_you> ant: ??
[04:49] <rm_you> ant: oh
[04:49] <rm_you> I'm talking about Uck, the program
[04:49] <rm_you> !uck
[04:49] <ubotu> UCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[04:49] <ant> rm_you : ha, like a plane over my head.
[04:49] <catid> hello.. does anyone remember the command to reconfigure your keyboard?
[04:49] <rm_you> lol, meh :P
[04:49] <rbil> willcotton: installing from livecd?
[04:49] <ZoOlMaN> hi all, guys how do I mount a USB device where there is no in /etc/fstab a usbfs!
[04:49] <willcotton> yes rbil
[04:50] <willcotton> im on the livecd atm
[04:50] <shaun_> katani: yep that totally solved the problem, i just wasnt waiting long enough after starting the daemon!
[04:50] <r4nge> does ubuntu use PAM for local login?
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Yup
[04:50] <DaSkreech> I would assume ;)
[04:50] <r4nge> where would i see that configured?  i can locate sshd calling PAM but not sure where getty calls it
[04:51] <katani> shaun_: Glad I could help. |:)
[04:51] <ZoOlMaN> eV64, are you there?
[04:51] <rbil> willcotton: is that link you posted your message?
[04:51] <willcotton> anything i can possibly do before running the installer?
[04:51] <eV64> ZoOlMaN, hey
[04:51] <shaun_> katani: :] 
[04:51] <zero88> katani how can i apt-get that??
[04:51] <taigeR_> Hi
[04:52] <willcotton> rbil:
[04:52] <akniss> Has anyone had trouble exporting tomboy notes to html?
[04:52] <willcotton> rbil:  thats just what i found on google
[04:52] <ZoOlMaN> sup mate :)
[04:52] <katani> zero88: apt-get install faad2 ffmpeg
[04:52] <rbil> willcotton: are u trying to install 64-bit version?
[04:52] <katani> zero88: i thunk...
[04:52] <silverravage> Hey I just got Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 1.3 anyknow how to turn on like i got an HDMI to DVI going from my laptop to Samsung HDTV FLAT TUBE widescreen anyone know how to activate it
[04:52] <willcotton> i believe so
[04:52] <ZoOlMaN> how do you mount a USB Device while there is no usbfs in /etc/fstab
[04:52] <taigeR_> private
[04:53] <slid3r> does anyone remember the apt-get command for installing the CURRENT kernel headers you have?
[04:53] <eV64> hmm
[04:53] <rbil> willcotton: 64-bit version is problematic in other areas as well. you'd be better off installing 32-bit version unless u have more than 4GB of RAM
[04:53] <eV64> ZoOlMaN, i'm a noob too, remember?
[04:53] <ZoOlMaN> come on!
[04:53] <eV64> ZoOlMaN, i'll go take a peek at the guide
[04:53] <ZoOlMaN> if your a noob then whom am I?
[04:53] <willcotton> ugh then i gotta dl again =\
[04:53] <waxyfresh> ubuntu ultimate edition?whats that?
[04:53] <eV64> ZoOlMaN, uber noob, here's the link too ctrl+d it http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[04:54] <waxyfresh> ZoOlMaN: thats a question you have to ask your self
[04:54] <rbil> willcotton: you'd be well advised. for example ... no flash plugin for 64-bit, no wine for 64-bit, etc.
[04:54] <willcotton> kk
[04:54] <cyris> sounds microsofty haha
[04:54] <Madpilot> waxyfresh, an unsupported Ubuntu-with-extras thing put out by someone a few months ago
[04:54] <silverravage> waxyfresh:http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/
[04:54] <rbil> willcotten: maybe in hindsight it's good it didn't install :-)
[04:54] <willcotton> lol
[04:54] <willcotton> 64bit is so much cooler though
[04:54] <ZoOlMaN> okay thx any way
[04:55] <rm_you> Are there any good guides for customizing the Edgy livecd? UCK isn't going to work for what I need to do :(
[04:55] <rbil> willcotton: as you're finding out :-)
[04:55] <silverravage> Hey but Mad it runs ok well expect for the fact beryl is crashing for some reason
[04:55] <waxyfresh> how  do i fix this?W: GPG error: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net edgy-seveas  key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[04:55] <eV64> ZoOlMaN, do you see the drive in device manager?
[04:55] <eV64> o well
[04:55] <slid3r> anyone get a nasty nvidia failure on the latest updates?
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> waxyfresh: follow the guide for his repo to add the key
[04:56] <Orfeous> is it possible to specify characterd codes with NFS?
[04:56] <silverravage> slid3r: I am not able to run Beryl it black screens and then puts me back at the login
[04:56] <daifunai> alam! it's akira's friend
[04:56] <waxyfresh> !Seveas
[04:56] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:56] <bradj> Sigh... I think im going to start over on my MySQL install
[04:56] <slid3r> well I have a total xorg failure to load
[04:56] <bradj> I messed up :(
[04:56] <slid3r> not loading my nvidia drivers or some such
[04:56] <willcotton> actually
[04:56] <willcotton> why im here
[04:57] <willcotton> should i get 6.06 or 6.10
[04:57] <slid3r> ubuntu could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[04:57] <rbil> willcotton: 6.06 is a bit more stabler than 6.10, but 6.10 is alright
[04:58] <rbil> willcotton: 6.06 will be supported longer, but you won't be able to install FireFox 2.0 for example in 6.06, but can in 6.10
[04:58] <daifunai> gtk-gnutella isn't workin'! help!
[04:58] <rbil> willcotton: also 6.10 makes installing Beryl easier if you have the graphics card to do it
[04:58] <daifunai> >_>
[04:59] <willcotton> thats the 3d desktop?
[04:59] <bradj> Can I have Anjuta and KDev installed simultaneously w/o causing problems?
[04:59] <rbil> right
[04:59] <Pollywog> slid3r: did you edit your xorg.conf by adding nvidia as the driver and remove "load dri" etc?
[04:59] <willcotton> kk getting 6.10 :p
[04:59] <rbil> I'd say, if this is your first time into Ubuntu, you may as well go 6.10
[04:59] <fami> how easy to create package from tarball?
[04:59] <fami> hi
[04:59] <Dingbat> Howdy.
[05:00] <r4nge> where can i set wether or not to use pam for local login
[05:00] <slid3r> Pollywog: it was already that way, but yes I checked it
[05:01] <Pollywog> k
[05:01] <Geoffrey2> is it possible to get an Ubuntu debian version of RealPlayer?
[05:01] <Bahl> So, I just burned "ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386" to a disk and the laptop im booting on seems to be exploding
[05:02] <Bahl> does initial setup normally take about 10 mins?
[05:02] <Pollywog> the live cd can take a while to boot
[05:02] <spikeb> it sure can
[05:02] <spikeb> heh
[05:03] <Bahl> cool ty, this laptops specs arent exactly golden either
[05:03] <Bahl> prbly not helping
[05:03] <aKKiLLa> and the setup can easily take more than 10 minutes
[05:03] <jsmidt> Does feisty have a compiz-settings manager?
[05:03] <katani> goodnight all
[05:03] <waxyfresh> Bahl: if its a live cd once you instlal itll run alot faster
[05:03] <Pollywog> it probably makes some ppl think the installed Ubuntu will be just as slow, but it's not
[05:04] <dylock> im in a bit of a situation
[05:05] <Bahl> what kind of situation?
[05:06] <dylock> i just updated some nvidia drivers and upon restart X wont start up giving me an error about X module not being the same version as my nvidia module
[05:07] <Bahl> will it not let you boot at all?
[05:07] <Pollywog> dylock: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:07] <dylock> i booted into ubuntu restore so i at least have a terminal
[05:08] <Pollywog> apt-get update   then install the nvidia-glx
[05:08] <dylock> Pollywog: will that give me the corrent version for my X version?
[05:08] <Pollywog> it worked for me, got everything I needed
[05:08] <Pollywog> in Edgy
[05:09] <dylock> do you have nvidia-settings command?
[05:09] <Pollywog> let me check, I did not need to use the command
[05:11] <Pollywog> yes I have that command
[05:11] <dylock> ok sweet
[05:11] <dylock> ill try that out
[05:11] <rkluxen> what is the best console web browser?
[05:11] <winterborne> lynx!
[05:11] <winterborne> er... emacs!
[05:11] <winterborne> er... I'm so sorry.
[05:11] <marx2k_> emacs does web browsing?
[05:11] <waxyfresh> !lynx
[05:11] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[05:11] <dylock> hmmm it says nvidia-glx is already the newest version
[05:11] <winterborne> marx2k_ apparently, but i've never tried it.
[05:11] <sporkmonger> so... i am on a quest to get apache installed on an ubuntu server and i'm having some troubles: http://pastie.caboo.se/48962  anyone have any idea why this is happening?  (the error at the end doesn't make any sense since obviously I just installed apr 1.2.8)
[05:12] <WillCotton03> like zomg windows
[05:12] <Pollywog> dylock did you use some other nvidia installer?
[05:12] <winterborne> XD
[05:12] <Bahl> mmm apache.. delicious
[05:12] <Pollywog> other than apt?
[05:12] <dylock> i used envy
[05:12] <Pollywog> ohhh
[05:12] <winterborne> Is anybody hip on why the 7.04 Beta hasn't been posted yet?
[05:12] <waxyfresh> aptitude says i have 19broken packages and dosent offer a way to fix it?
[05:12] <dylock> and it updated my xorg.conf file and now im where im at
[05:12] <marx2k_> apparently lynx gives a 400 error on www.google.com
[05:13] <waxyfresh> aptitude says i have 19broken packages and dosent offer a way to fix it?besides removing 699mbs ofprobly usefull stuff
[05:13] <Xenguy> marx2k_: I've noticed that before; try links
[05:13] <Pollywog> dylock: do you know how to use module-assistant to make your own nvidia module package?
[05:13] <rkluxen> i can't check my gmail mail with lynx
[05:13] <rkluxen> or links2
[05:13] <marx2k_> links?
[05:13] <Pollywog> and are you using a custom kernel?
[05:13] <marx2k_> links2?
[05:14] <marx2k_> !links2
[05:14] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[05:14] <Xenguy> marx2k_: apt-cache show links
[05:14] <marx2k_> interesting
[05:14] <winterborne> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser) !
[05:14] <waxyfresh> !dummy
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dummy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <waxyfresh> what are dummy packages for?
[05:15] <dylock> Pollywog: no im not
[05:15] <Xenguy> waxyfresh: placeholders ?
[05:15] <Pollywog> k
[05:15] <waxyfresh> aptitude says i have 19broken packages and dosent offer a way to fix it? besides removing 699mbs of probly usefull stuff
[05:15] <waxyfresh> Xenguy: thanks
[05:15] <Xenguy> waxyfresh: np
[05:15] <marx2k_> Hm links2 looks like it picks up google well
[05:16] <jessid> hi!
[05:16] <rkluxen> it doesn't work with gmail
[05:16] <Lgndryhr> hi.....i've searched and searched and still no answer
[05:16] <Xenguy> rkluxen: maybe lack of javascript ?
[05:16] <jessid> how can I know if there is a user conected the apache server running in a machine? Thanks!
[05:17] <nfearnley> I've got a machine with onboard audio and also a pci audio card. Linux uses the pci card, but it doesn't seem to detect the onboard audio. How can I get it to use the onboard audio as a second card.
[05:17] <Lgndryhr> everytime i open firefox i get software update failed. earlier when it was trying to autoupdate b/c i clicked on download and restart thing it froze so i forced quit it and now evertyime i open firefox it tries to install the update and halfway it stops and says software update failed " One or more files could not be updated. Please make sure all other applications are closed and that you have permission to modify files, and then re
[05:18] <tmitchell> i've upgraded to feisty but my media buttons are busted
[05:18] <tmitchell> xev shows the activity coming through
[05:18] <tmitchell> but amarok won't register them
[05:18] <micro> anyone else running wow... i have it running just a few questions...
[05:18] <tmitchell> it registers the default win+C type keys
[05:18] <Alonea> ok, maybe I should ask, what should I do to erase all traces that I had flgrx on in the first place?
[05:19] <Lgndryhr> any help?
[05:19] <dylock> judging by the X server error it seems i need to update the X module or kernal module
[05:19] <dylock> but im not to sure what that means
[05:19] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: where did you get this Firefox?
[05:19] <Lgndryhr> firefox's website
[05:20] <marx2k_> I use fasterfox
[05:20] <Lgndryhr> officially from mozilla
[05:20] <Lgndryhr> it popped up with the screen to update to 2.0.0.3
[05:20] <Lgndryhr> and i clicked on the button to download
[05:20] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: you should remove it if you can and get the one in Ubuntu
[05:20] <jessid> how can I know if there is a user conected the apache server running in a machine? Thanks!
[05:20] <Lgndryhr> this has worked before
[05:20] <Lgndryhr> i just updated to 6.10 and am using the one that came with it
[05:20] <Lgndryhr> well updated the other day
[05:20] <Lgndryhr> but still
[05:20] <Pollywog> jessid: looking at the logs or netstat
[05:21] <Pollywog> netstat -c --tcp
[05:21] <jessid> Pollywog: thanks!
[05:21] <Xenguy> jessid: lsof -i
[05:21] <Xenguy> jessid: or lsof |grep -i apache
[05:21] <Pollywog> and remember that http is a connectionless protocol
[05:22] <Lgndryhr> pollywog: but it is still trying to use 2.0.0.2 that came with my 6.10 ubuntu
[05:22] <Xenguy> jessid: or lsof |grep -i estab |grep -i apache
[05:22] <Xenguy> ?
[05:22] <catid> ghosts_edge_lime is a pretty sweet emerald theme
[05:22] <jessid> Pollywog: thanks!!!
[05:22] <Lgndryhr> and when i go to open firefox i get that error
[05:22] <jessid> Xenguy ok, thanks!
[05:22] <Lgndryhr> everytime i open firefox i get software update failed. earlier when it was trying to autoupdate b/c i clicked on download and restart thing it froze so i forced quit it and now evertyime i open firefox it tries to install the update and halfway it stops and says software update failed " One or more files could not be updated. Please make sure all other applications are closed and that you have permission to modify files, and then re
[05:22] <Xenguy> jessid: aye
[05:22] <dylock> here is a paste of my error http://p.opsat.net/v/w2lrk6
[05:22] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: did you remove the Ubuntu Firefox package before you installed the other one?
[05:23] <Lgndryhr> i dont think so
[05:23] <catid> let's see if i can find that one spikeb..
[05:23] <Lgndryhr> since the one i have now came with it
[05:23] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: try removing the deb
[05:23] <Lgndryhr> i dont have a deb
[05:23] <spikeb> catid, i think it's just one of the options in the config app
[05:23] <|Amon|> what are the main differences of imap and pop?
[05:23] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: dpkg -l | grep firefox
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> code
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  firefox                                2.0.0.2+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10          lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  firefox-gnome-support                  2.0.0.2+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10          Support for Gnome in Mozilla Firefox
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  libnspr4                               1.firefox2.0.0.2+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 Netscape Portable Runtime Library
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  libnss3                                1.firefox2.0.0.2+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 Network Security Service Libraries - runtime
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-de-de           2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1                     Mozilla Firefox German language/region packa
[05:24] <berl> hi everybody
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb           2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1                     Mozilla Firefox English language/region pack
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-es-ar           2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1                     Mozilla Firefox Spanish; Castilian language/
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es           2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1                     Mozilla Firefox Spanish; Castilian language/
[05:24] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: it is still installed
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-fr-fr           2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1                     Mozilla Firefox French language/region packa
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-ja-jp           2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1                     Mozilla Firefox Japanese language/region pac
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn           2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1                     Mozilla Firefox Chinese language/region pack
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-tw           2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1                     Mozilla Firefox Chinese language/region pack
[05:24] <Pollywog> apt-get remove firefox
[05:24] <|Amon|> um
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> what is?
[05:24] <Lgndryhr> im confused now
[05:24] <Pollywog> firefox
[05:24] <waxyfresh> aptitude says i have 19broken packages and dosent offer a way to fix it? besides removing 699mbs of probly usefull stuff?
[05:25] <Pollywog> you said you did not have a deb for firefox installed, but you do
[05:25] <Differ> I need to install a driver for Ubuntu for my networking card
[05:25] <Madpilot> waxyfresh, that's probably a sign that your sources.list is screwed up
[05:25] <Differ> the manufacturer doesn't have a driver
[05:25] <berl> say, is there a way to send only a specified application's traffic through a proxy? i don't wanna change the global setting.
[05:25] <Differ> Ubuntu doesn't work with it out of the box
[05:25] <|Amon|> Differ, just a regular nic?
[05:25] <waxyfresh> Madpilot: ill go check grrr
[05:25] <Smaug> my movie player wont play a dvd or anything because it says that i need to install the nessasary plugins but i dont know what those plugind are.
[05:25] <|Amon|> should work
[05:25] <Differ> I can't petition the manufacturer, because it's discontinued
[05:25] <Pollywog> waxyfresh: you might have sources for different releases in your sources.file
[05:25] <Differ> is there another way I can get the driver?
[05:26] <Pollywog> waxyfresh: you might have sources for different releases in your sources.list file
[05:26] <|Amon|> Differ, lspci | grep nic
[05:26] <Differ> |Amon|: what's nic?
[05:26] <Lgndryhr> huh?
[05:26] <|Amon|> network interface card
[05:26] <Differ> also, my internet doesn't work for Ubuntu
[05:26] <Lgndryhr> what happened
[05:26] <Pollywog> Differ network interface card - nic
[05:26] <berl> Smaug, check the ubuntu wiki for restricted formats. it's all explained there.
[05:26] <Xenguy> .oO(we are the knights who say 'nic'...)
[05:26] <Differ> |Amon|: is there something I can just type in?
[05:26] <spikeb> heh
[05:26] <Lgndryhr> anyways pollywog should i back up the stuff before removing firefox
[05:27] <Lgndryhr> like the add-ons and plugins
[05:27] <|Amon|> Differ, try lspci -l | grep ethernet
[05:27] <|Amon|> typo!
[05:27] <Differ> thanks.
[05:27] <|Amon|> forget -l flag
[05:27] <Marupa> is there any sort of program/etc that'd take a directory and make a id3 list of MP3 entries?
[05:27] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: you could back them up
[05:27] <rm_you> Are there any good guides for customizing the Edgy livecd? UCK isn't going to work for what I need to do :(
[05:27] <Differ> so I'll jsut type in "lspci | grep ethernet"
[05:27] <Lgndryhr> k
[05:27] <dylock> Marupa: try easytags
[05:28] <Marupa> thanks
[05:28] <Pollywog> dpkg-repack <packagename>
[05:28] <Differ> thanks for the support
[05:28] <|Amon|> Differ, yes in bash
[05:28] <Pollywog> sudo dpkg-repack <packagename>
[05:28] <dylock> Marupa: also tagtool is pretty good
[05:28] <Marupa> mostly I just want a carriage return delimited raw text file with each line being an MP3.
[05:28] <Differ> where can I open up bash?
[05:28] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: is there some reason you want to use the non-Ubuntu Firefox?
[05:29] <Drac|Bcomp> How do you select which Java you want to use?
[05:29] <Lgndryhr> no
[05:29] <Lgndryhr> i didnt know i was
[05:29] <Lgndryhr> i must have installed it one night when i was half awake
[05:29] <Pollywog> well can you remove the one you installed from a third party site?
[05:29] <Pollywog> oic
[05:29] <fernando> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:30] <Marupa> dylock, Will that do what I want?
[05:30] <Lgndryhr> see what?
[05:30] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: did you install it from a tarball?
[05:30] <rkluxen> is there a driver you have to install for console mouse support?
[05:30] <Drac|Bcomp> This is particularly important.
[05:30] <Lgndryhr> i think so
[05:30] <Lgndryhr> its been a month or 2 since i updated
[05:30] <Lgndryhr> so not exactly sure
[05:30] <Moosejaw> i need to troubleshoot my soundcard.  I had it working perfectly for a long time, than I messed with some midi stuff today to get guitar pro to work...now my sound aint working
[05:31] <Pollywog> can you determine where it installed, perhaps in /opt or /usr/local/ ?
[05:31] <Lgndryhr> right now firefox is installed in /home/<username>
[05:31] <Pollywog> then you can reinstall the Ubuntu packages
[05:31] <Lgndryhr> i think h/o
[05:31] <Pollywog> ohhh
[05:31] <Pollywog> then it's an easy fix
[05:31] <Lgndryhr> there is in /opt as well
[05:31] <Pollywog> you should not need to remove the debs
[05:32] <Pollywog> just remove the tarball one
[05:32] <Lgndryhr> sorry im still sorta noob with ubuntu how i do that
[05:33] <priich> if you still have the tarball source, you can always try a make uninstall
[05:33] <Lgndryhr> ok yea the one that is running is out of /opt
[05:33] <Lgndryhr> i remember now
[05:33] <Pollywog> well don't install tarballed stuff until you know what you are doing, and look in your home directory and find the errant version and remove it
[05:33] <Pollywog> there ya go :)
[05:33] <Lgndryhr> when i last installed it from mozilla
[05:33] <Lgndryhr> it was installed to /opt
[05:33] <Pollywog> k
[05:34] <Lgndryhr> and it was a tar
[05:34] <gregcha117> i accidentely deleted some files associated with vmware-player and now i cant seem to delete it or reinstall it
[05:34] <Marupa> dylock, That's not what I wanted.  I don't want to edit tags.  I want to save a playlist type thing...
[05:34] <Pollywog> gregcha117: the vmware tarball has a removal tool
[05:34] <gregcha117> i get sudo vmplayer
[05:34] <gregcha117> /usr/bin/vmplayer: 166: cannot open /etc/vmware/locations: No such file
[05:34] <gregcha117> exec: 180: /lib/wrapper-gtk24.sh: not found
[05:34] <ceaser> Why are my fonts in firefox's UI smaller than the fonts in every other gtk+2 app
[05:34] <ceaser> I know it has something to do with DPI, but everything is set correctly
[05:34] <ceaser> as far as i know
[05:34] <Lgndryhr> so remove the one from /opt
[05:35] <gregcha117> pollywog: the vmware-server removed fine
[05:35] <Lgndryhr> or from /home/<username>
[05:35] <Pollywog> k
[05:35] <gregcha117> pollywog: its the vmwareplayer i cant seem to uninstall
[05:35] <Pollywog> oh
[05:35] <Lgndryhr> */user/<username>/.mozilla
[05:35] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: those in /home are just the configs
[05:35] <Lgndryhr> oh k
[05:36] <Lgndryhr> although many of the files match what is /opt
[05:36] <Pollywog> rename the .mozilla directory
[05:36] <Pollywog> mv .mozilla .mozilla.old
[05:36] <Marupa> Is there any sort of program that will export mp3 tags to a text file?
[05:36] <__david> hello--how do I compile one module from the kernel tree?
[05:36] <Pollywog> and delete the install that ended up in /opt
[05:37] <__david> I tried "make fs/fatx/fatx.ko", but there was no fatx.ko target (the same problem occurred for reiserfs and fat)
[05:37] <Pollywog> gregcha117: I am not sure how to remove the player
[05:37] <Pollywog> do: which vmware-uninstall.pl
[05:38] <Pollywog> __david did you compile your own kernel?
[05:39] <_unfyjr> how do i get my wireless internet working on my laptop
[05:39] <Pollywog> _unfyjr: is it a Ralink?
[05:40] <_unfyjr> mm, no
[05:41] <Lgndryhr> pollywog once removed reinstall, right?
[05:42] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: if you removed only the mozilla or firefox in /opt, I do not think you need to reinstall
[05:42] <Lgndryhr> ok then.....?
[05:42] <Pollywog> start firefox but first rename .mozilla in your home dir
[05:42] <Alonea> anyone can think of another IRC channel that might be able to help me?
[05:42] <Lgndryhr> rename it back to .mozilla
[05:43] <Pollywog> _unfyjr: Ralink is the one I know
[05:43] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: no, it might be corrupted
[05:43] <Drac|BComp> Okay, hopefully the computer isn't going to randomly freeze again. No idea what's causing that. Might be weird PS/2 ports.
[05:43] <Pollywog> you can try it
[05:43] <Pollywog> if it does not work, then rename it
[05:43] <Drac|BComp> Anyway, I need to configure which Java version to use. I apparently have older ones installed beneath the new ones, and the one in use is older. I don't know how to change it.
[05:43] <Drac|BComp> Can somebody tell me?
[05:43] <Pollywog> it won't hurt to try the configs you already have
[05:44] <_unfyjr> polly can you guide me configuring my wireless internet?\
[05:44] <Lgndryhr> pollywog: without renaming and when i try to launch i get this "Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory)"
[05:44] <ant> Lgndryhr : he just told you what to do.
[05:44] <Lgndryhr> oh wasnt sure if he was talking to me
[05:44] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: then you might try 'apt-get install --reinstall firefox'
[05:45] <Pollywog> _unfyjr: I only know Ralink cards
[05:45] <Lgndryhr> im going to try the reinstall
[05:45] <Drac|BComp> Anyone?
[05:45] <Lgndryhr> brb
[05:46] <Pollywog> Drac|BComp: how did you install Java?
[05:46] <Pollywog> I recommend you install it with java-package
[05:46] <Pollywog> that way you can upgrade without problems
[05:46] <Drac|BComp> Pollywog: I found the answer. Nevermind.
[05:46] <Pollywog> k
[05:46] <Drac|BComp> Thanks anyway.
[05:47] <jetscreamer> mneptok: you're the only one to know so far after years
[05:47] <jetscreamer> \o/
[05:47] <Lgndryhr> pollywog: when i try the reinstall i get "Please restart any running Firefoxes, or you will experience problems."  from terminal
[05:47] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: ps ax | grep firefox
[05:47] <kyle__> I acidentally deleted an empty physical volume from a volume group, how do I fix my volume group?
[05:48] <Lgndryhr>  6993 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep firefox
[05:48] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: ignore the message then
[05:48] <samo21> umm. so the add/remove programs thing from the applications menu dissapeared. how do i get it back?
[05:48] <gregcha117> is there a way to force a program to install over itself even if its already installed because i accidentely deleted some files from vmware-player and it wont let me install it or remove it
[05:49] <Pollywog> gregcha117: are you installing vmware-player from a deb package?
[05:49] <Lgndryhr> it still wont launch
[05:49] <gregcha117> i was using "sudo apt-get install/autoremove vmware-player"
[05:50] <Pollywog> gregcha117: is the deb package on your computer ?
[05:50] <samo21> anyone available to help me really quick?
[05:50] <Pollywog> in your home dir?
[05:50] <arrow> sam021, right click it and go to preferences, all the way at the bottom is add remove
[05:51] <arrow> sam021, edit menus, then preferences
[05:51] <Lgndryhr> yea
[05:51] <lineman60> is there a simple way for me to do dual moniters on my laptop?
[05:51] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: did you 'apt-get install --reinstall <packagename> ?
[05:51] <gregcha117> pollywog: no it isnt
[05:51] <Lgndryhr> yep
[05:51] <Pollywog> gregcha117:  you used apt to install it?
[05:51] <samo21> arrow: it's not showing up
[05:51] <Pollywog> I did not know you could get the player using apt
[05:52] <Lgndryhr> wait its working now
[05:52] <Lgndryhr> nope nvm
[05:52] <samo21> arrow: i'm in the alacarte menu editor, and i went there, and it's not showing up
[05:52] <gregcha117> pollywog: yes
[05:52] <Pollywog> if you did, use 'apt-get install --reinstall packagename'
[05:52] <samo21> arrow: it was there before, and i have no idea what i did to make it go away
[05:52] <Lgndryhr> still get "Please restart any running Firefoxes, or you will experience problems."
[05:52] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: you might try a reboot
[05:52] <Lgndryhr> yea
[05:52] <arrow> samo21, sorry thats all I know
[05:52] <Lgndryhr> brb
[05:53] <gregcha117> pollywog: tryed that got the same error as before E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:53] <samo21> arrow: alright then... you don't know where it would be stored in the file system?
[05:53] <Pollywog> gregcha117: do you know how to make a dummy package using equivs?
[05:53] <gregcha117> pollywog: nope
[05:53] <arrow> samo21, thats way over my head
[05:53] <rollerce> ok...so I went through all of the scaryness to set up my wireless driver..but I can't get it to show in connection propertires
[05:53] <samo21> arrow: alol... alright, thanks
[05:54] <Pollywog> gregcha117: I am not sure what to do
[05:54] <beg1689> scaryness? what chip?
[05:54] <arrow> samo21, mp
[05:54] <samo21> anyone else able to help me? the add/remove programs option is missing from my applications menu
[05:54] <rollerce> broadcom
[05:54] <arrow> np*
[05:54] <ant> rollerce : does it show up in iwconfig?
[05:54] <Pollywog> did you try 'apt-get remove <packagename>?
[05:54] <Pollywog> did you try 'apt-get remove <packagename>' ?
[05:54] <rollerce> it does show in iwconfig
[05:54] <beg1689> wouldnt it be installed by default? did you check first?
[05:54] <ant> rollerce : did you switch your interface to the appropiate one in connection properties?
[05:55] <gregcha117> pollywog: yeah and it removed the vmware-player-kernel-modules and some other things but didnt remove the vmware-player itself
[05:55] <ant> rollerce : say eth1 instead of 'lo'
[05:55] <gregcha117> pollywog: it wont seem to remove or reinstall :\
[05:55] <rollerce> it doesn't show in connection properties.
[05:55] <rollerce> only lo is in connection properties.
[05:55] <samo21> anyone know how to help?
[05:55] <ant> rollerce : change it, manually change it
[05:55] <Pollywog> gregcha117: the only way I know of to get out of such a mess is a dummy package
[05:55] <rollerce> ....
[05:55] <rollerce> o.o
[05:55] <rollerce> oh
[05:55] <valehru> Hey guys, Im studying chinese and I want to be able to type chinese in documents and email.  How can I do it?  I have chinese language support available but I need a keyboard language changer button to switch from english to chinese and vice versa....any help would be nice..
[05:56] <Lgndryhr> ok i rebooted now
[05:56] <rollerce> ok, it says dosconnected...how do I make it connect?
[05:56] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: try the firefox command on the command line
[05:56] <gregcha117> pollywog: thats a bit over my head i think haha
[05:57] <Lgndryhr> command not found
[05:57] <Pollywog> gregcha117: get the equivs package and read the docs it is not hard to do it
[05:57] <|Amon|> my sound card and driver and alsa all seem to be working properly yet i dont have any sound at all in ubuntu
[05:57] <ant> rollerce : goto properties and put in your ESSID
[05:57] <|Amon|> no idea where to start either...
[05:57] <rollerce> i did
[05:57] <samo21> anyone able to help me with my missing add/remove programs?
[05:57] <|Amon|> works fine in doz
[05:57] <rollerce> now it says disconnected with no signal strength
[05:57] <Pollywog> Lgndryhr: the only thing I can suggest is 'apt-get remove firefox' then reinstalling it
[05:58] <Lgndryhr> i shall try
[05:58] <ant> rollerce : thats all i can do for you
[05:59] <samo21> anyone able to help me at all??
[05:59] <Lgndryhr> after removing and then installing i still get an error
[06:00] <Lgndryhr> Please restart any running Firefoxes, or you will experience problems.
[06:01] <samo21> anyone able to help me?
[06:01] <Lgndryhr> still wont work
[06:02] <|Amon|> anybody?????
[06:02] <|Amon|> if i cant get sound working im gonna dump ubuntu
[06:03] <Lgndryhr> not to be rude but now i have no firefox
[06:04] <Lgndryhr> well it is bed time....school in morning
[06:04] <Lgndryhr> thanks again for trying to help pollywog
[06:04] <samo21> anyone who can help me figure out how to get my add/remove programs back?
[06:08] <SilverRavage> need some help i am trying to install an Nvidia Package, but i cant get the X to shutdown right i run a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  and then it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor, when i type in the next command nothing happens it just stays at th eblack screen and blinking cursor no matter what i type.
[06:09] <dylock> bleh still no luck with this x server /nvidia thing
[06:10] <dylock> i wonder if i just restore my xorg.conf file it will work
[06:10] <rollerce> any more advice on this blasted ethernet thing?
[06:10] <dylock> whats the problem?
[06:11] <rollerce> i can't get it to connect to my network
[06:11] <SilverRavage> can anyone help me
[06:11] <eV64> SilverRavage, yeah
[06:11] <eV64> maybe
[06:11] <SilverRavage> eV did you see my msg at the top?
[06:11] <dylock> do you have it enabled and all that
[06:11] <eV64> you are getting x to shutdown right
[06:12] <eV64> it shuts down leaving you in terminal
[06:12] <eV64> !binarydrivers
[06:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:12] <SilverRavage> well its just a black screen with a blinking cursor
[06:12] <SilverRavage> but no like USER$ type thing
[06:12] <eV64> i believe that's what i saw, one sec
[06:12] <SilverRavage> if i type anything in and press enter nothign happens
[06:14] <antoni0> como le hago para ver los usuarios del canal en forma de lista? y no como un boton que me despliega la lista de usuarios???
[06:14] <rollerce> I can't even get into a utility to scan my networks.
[06:14] <Madpilot> ubotu, es | antoni0
[06:14] <ubotu> antoni0: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:14] <eV64> SilverRavage, why don't you use ctrl+alt+backspace if you're just restarting x?
[06:14] <eV64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia are you using that guide SilverRavage
[06:15] <dylock> anyone know how to update the X module?
[06:15] <SilverRavage> eV: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia
[06:15] <SilverRavage> that was the one i was using
[06:17] <r4nge> when login through ssh, where is the conf setting that would eliminate the printing of the ip/hostname in "user@ip/host password: "
[06:17] <l90bpm> I'll ask in here too..
[06:17] <l90bpm> ok..  you know how you can take your mouse to the corner and make all the windows show up together?  Is there a way on dual monitors to only make one monitor do that.. kind of like a piler..  and still have one monitor showing a full screen browser?  hope that made sense
[06:17] <l90bpm> (in beryl)
[06:18] <eV64> SilverRavage, sorry, back now. i'll look
[06:18] <Differ> l90bpm: try #ubuntu-effects
[06:18] <Differ> "lspci | grep ethernet" didn't work when I tried to fix my networking card problems
[06:18] <eV64> aah for beryl.  t was quite nice
[06:18] <Romexios> !ip
[06:18] <Romexios> how to check what my ip is?
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <Differ> Romexios: whatismyip.org
[06:19] <l90bpm> yeah that was next
[06:19] <eV64> ifconfig
[06:19] <Differ> =\ no help seems to be coming here
[06:19] <eV64> unless you're on a router
[06:19] <Romexios> should there be a command?
[06:19] <l90bpm> asked in #beryl already
[06:19] <eV64> Differ, that just lists pci devices that have ethernet in the name
[06:19] <Differ> anyways, is there another way to fix my network card?
[06:19] <rarj> Hi. Im having problems installing feisty fawn.
[06:19] <Differ> eV64: I just copied and pasted.
[06:19] <SilverRavage> ?
[06:19] <eV64> aaah
[06:20] <Differ> there is NO chance of getting a driver
[06:20] <Differ> none.
[06:20] <eV64> ?
[06:20] <rarj> The migration assistant doesnt work
[06:20] <Differ> it's discontinued
[06:20] <eV64> too many questions and i'm the only noob here who can use google :-o
[06:20] <SilverRavage> ev64 What i do
[06:20] <tritium> !feisty | rarj
[06:20] <ubotu> rarj: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:20] <eV64> SilverRavage, follow this guide instead https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:21] <eV64> rarj, join #ubuntu+1 for fesity
[06:21] <ant> !upgrade | rarj
[06:21] <ubotu> rarj: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:21] <rarj> tritium: thanks. Can you tell me if I can upgrade from Ubuntu Dapper to Kubuntu Edgy ?
[06:21] <gnu-linux> is the modem U.S Robotics 56k voice win int working on ubuntu?
[06:21] <tritium> rarj: you can
[06:22] <eV64> rarj, install kubuntu-desktop i think . type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (i'm not sure if you need to remove ubuntu-desktop first
[06:22] <rarj> tritium: how ? Adding the CD to synaptic repo didnt help. I want to do this as QTParted doesnt seem to support the ReiserFS filesystem by default.
[06:22] <eV64> Differ, does your ethernet show up in device manager?
[06:22] <tritium> rarj: see the URL ubotu sent you
[06:23] <eV64> lol synaptic
[06:23] <eV64> easy enough i guess
[06:23] <rarj> tritium: Ok
[06:23] <gnu-linux> can someone tell me if ubuntu has the drivers for the modem U.S robotics 56k voice win int?
[06:23] <willem> join #impilinux
[06:24] <eV64> gnu-linux, load the livecd and see
[06:24] <gnu-linux> ev64 ok
[06:24] <nospi> does anyone know how to make a web proxy like hidemyass.com or helloyo.com so that i can get to blocked sites at school?
[06:24] <capicu> hello everyone...i have a question...anyone know if yahelite can be installed properly in ubuntu
[06:25] <capicu> using wine i mean
[06:25] <nospi> i want to host one from my computer because all the other anonymizers are blocked from school now too
[06:25] <X86echo> capicu get automatix
[06:25] <eV64> capicu, doesn't gaim have yahoo support?
[06:25] <capicu> yeah i noticed that wine is avail in automatix2
[06:25] <X86echo> their is a yahoo client their
[06:25] <tritium> X86echo: s/their/there
[06:26] <eV64> tritium, lol thx
[06:26] <capicu> but i was wondering how easy/hard it is to install yahelite under wine...yeah i saw it gache i believe is the name...but it isn't as simple as yahelite
[06:26] <SilverRavage> hey eV64 do i follow Nvidia Legacy Driver in Edgy that part of the site you gave me?
[06:26] <J-_> is there a ssh program that I can use with a gui? the 'connect to server' utility doesn't seem to work on my machine. Putty works fine, but I dunno how to navigate without a gui.
[06:26] <X86echo> tritium I'm not in the mood
[06:27] <capicu> ev64 yeah gaim has yahoo support , so does gyache, just that yahelite is so configurable, and simpler to use on yahoo it is made specifically for yahoo so it's more configurable
[06:27] <X86echo> ;-)
[06:27] <X86echo> gyache that is what I was useing I couldent rember
[06:28] <eV64> i think gaim is simpler than a simple program and wine
[06:28] <capicu> x86echo : yeah gyache is pretty good. but yahelite is so much better
[06:28] <capicu> ev64: true
[06:28] <eV64> SilverRavage, you shouldn't need to
[06:28] <X86echo> gyache is better I think
[06:28] <capicu> gyache is pretty good, has webcam support too
[06:28] <eV64> Close all your applications, then press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, or restart your computer, to restart the X server. If you see an NVIDIA splashscreen after hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, your drivers are properly installed.
[06:29] <eV64> SilverRavage, so if you see a nvid splashscreen you're good
[06:29] <X86echo>  tritium you ok mate
[06:29] <eV64> i gotta sleep
[06:29] <capicu> anyone know of a way to convert .flv files to avi, or a standalone player that will play .flv i've ben searching google for a program that does, tried vlc but i get voice, but no video.......
[06:29] <tritium> X86echo: sure, why?
[06:29] <Differ> eV64: I see a DHN=520
[06:29] <eV64> capicu, there's a website for it
[06:29] <Differ> *DHN-520
[06:29] <capicu> i've downloaded google videos and now i can't play them
[06:29] <Differ> sorry, I was afk
[06:29] <capicu> really?
[06:30] <SilverRavage> ?
[06:30] <J-_> !ssh
[06:30] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:30] <capicu> that converts flv to avi?
[06:30] <SilverRavage> ev64 iam so confused
[06:30] <X86echo> well the best never rest
[06:30] <capicu> wow...
[06:30] <capicu> brb gonna go search google...
[06:30] <eV64> dhn-520 is a dlink phone line networking adapter... i think
[06:30] <capicu> ev64: you woldn't happen to know the url or the name of the site that converts flv to avi would you?
[06:31] <Differ> eV64: you are correct.
[06:31] <eV64> SilverRavage, did you follow the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia from step 1-10?
[06:31] <eV64> capicu, i will look
[06:32] <X86echo> yahoo what a joke
[06:32] <capicu> differ: you trying to get beryl to work?
[06:32] <daifunai> hi, i need instructions on adding my OTHER hard drive onto my file system
[06:32] <daifunai> or whatever
[06:32] <Differ> capicu: I'm trying to let my Ubuntu hook up to the internet
[06:32] <capicu> dai funai: what do you mean? mounting it?
[06:32] <daifunai> yeah, so I can view its contents and etc
[06:33] <capicu> Differ: are you using a router? or direct connection to the internet?
[06:33] <daifunai> i want to interact with it
[06:33] <Differ> router
[06:33] <eV64> capicu, awesome, i found it http://www.zamzar.com/conversionTypes.php
[06:34] <capicu> thanks!!!!
[06:34] <capicu> you're a lifesaver i appreciate it
[06:34] <capicu> brb
[06:34] <eV64> differ is the us robotics modem
[06:34] <eV64> capicu, no prob. good luck
[06:34] <eV64> differ, look under device manager again.  it will be somewhere under pci
[06:34] <yoshiznit123> hi, i'm trying to install smlnj in ubuntu 64-bit, but there aren't any packages... is there some way to install the 32 bit version?
[06:34] <eV64> Differ, and voice modems died with aol
[06:34] <Differ> isn't a modem
[06:35] <J-_> OK. unknown error code : 38 trying to open the SSH connection. what does that mean?
[06:35] <Differ> 'tis DSL.
[06:35] <daifunai> capicu, do you have ANY idea on what I'm talking about?
[06:35] <eV64> then you do not wantto use a 56k us robotics modem
[06:35] <eV64> wait
[06:35] <eV64> sorry, that was a different user
[06:35] <eV64> lol
[06:36] <tritium> !enter
[06:36] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:36] <eV64> differ, so you are trying to get the phone line networking adapter working.  i will look into that.  what was the model again?
[06:36] <eV64> thanks tritium
[06:36] <Differ> eV64: can't see the PCI section
[06:36] <Differ> have already enabled hidden devices
[06:36] <Differ> DHN-520
[06:37] <capicu> dai funai: not sure maybe i read what you wrote wrong
[06:37] <eV64> Differ, you may not have any pci devices, sorry, that was back when i though you were using the us robotics modem.  is this usb?
[06:37] <Differ> specifically, D-Link DHN-520 10Mb Home Phoneline Network Adapter
[06:37] <eV64> Differ, yup.  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/331-d-link-dhn-520-hpna-help-getting-linux-work.html
[06:38] <capicu> i'll be back in a few good luck everyone
[06:38] <SilverRavage> ev64: I saw the logo. So i should be good to run beryl now?
[06:38] <capicu> ev64: thanks for your help
[06:38] <eV64> probably
[06:38] <eV64> capicu, sure
[06:38] <Differ> eV64: already found that driver
[06:38] <Differ> will it work?
[06:39] <eV64> Differ, looks like other users didn't have much luck getting it working in linux.  you're probably better off with a standard wireless card (under $15 by now)
[06:39] <SilverRavage> ev64 ok actually it looks all shitty
[06:39] <SilverRavage> all like purple and just a bunch of noise
[06:39] <Differ> ok.
[06:39] <Differ> thanks
[06:40] <tritium> SilverRavage: watch the language, please
[06:40] <SilverRavage> sorry
[06:40] <eV64> SilverRavage, yumm.  i would guess it's not working right then
[06:40] <x86> ok, where is inittab in ubuntu?
[06:40] <tritium> x86: there isn't one.  Only 2 runlevels are used.
[06:40] <ant> x86: it went to upstart in edgy
[06:41] <x86> ok, well i used to use inittab to manage persistant processes that i want running all the time
[06:41] <x86> and if they die, they would be automagically restarted
[06:41] <x86> so what controls the consoles in ubuntu?
[06:41] <X86echo> AHAHHAAH
[06:41] <x86> what makes getty respawn?
[06:42] <eV64> tritium, do most people use a fake identd server on irc?
[06:42] <X86echo> this is not the same guy in the fourms with the rush symble
[06:42] <X86echo> that is me
[06:42] <x86> looks like /etc/event.d
[06:42] <x86> ok
[06:42] <x86> thanks
[06:42] <tritium> eV64: I doubt it.  I think most seek cloaks
[06:42] <X86echo> HAHAHAH
[06:42] <X86echo> LMFSO
[06:43] <X86echo> aAHAHA
[06:43] <eV64> lol
[06:43] <X86echo> I got to log that one
[06:43] <X86echo> its loged buy defult
[06:43] <eV64> tritium, i haven't had much success using google to find identd server info for ubuntu, can you point me in the right direction?
[06:43] <daaku> anyone got ideas on how to diagnose a randomly occuring issue? - my box has this wierd problem where it 'skips' for a second every now and then
[06:43] <eV64> X86echo, xchat wasn't set by default to log for me
[06:44] <tritium> X86echo: ?
[06:44] <X86echo> I got it set
[06:44] <eV64> daaku, skips? noise? video freeze?
[06:44] <X86echo> tha was so funny
[06:44] <tritium> eV64: apt-cache search identd, or search in synaptic.  There are several.  Make sure you've got universe and multiverse
[06:44] <ant> tritium : not sure its what your looking for: upstart.ubuntu.com
[06:45] <frozeneskimo> hey guys, what's a common network throughput measuring program? i want to measure the throughput between two systems connected over an ethernet crossover
[06:45] <ant> tritium : sorry i meant eV64
[06:45] <daaku> eV64: all of it - if i'm playing music, it skips sound - mouse stops responding sometimes, the seconds hand in my clock skips a second sometimes
[06:45] <tritium> ant: ;)
[06:45] <ant> its almost sudo sleep -h time
[06:46] <donkeegan> hi
[06:46] <whacky98> i need some help from someone
[06:46] <eV64> ant, i dont think so (unless i'm really confused as to what i'm trying to do) but thanks :)
[06:46] <whacky98> anyone have a sec
[06:46] <eV64> !ask
[06:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:46] <rollerce> am I gonna blow up ubuntu if I force it to make a certain mac address to be my wlan0?
[06:47] <whacky98> Ok, I have samba setup on ubuntu.  I can access my ubuntu share but on my ubuntu I can not access my windows shares
[06:47] <donkeegan> help i get the following error when i run synaptic "
[06:47] <donkeegan> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[06:47] <donkeegan> E: Error occurred while processing rtfm (NewVersion1)
[06:47] <donkeegan> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[06:47] <donkeegan> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:47] <whacky98> asks for a username, domain, and password
[06:47] <eV64> !paste | donkeegan
[06:47] <ubotu> donkeegan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:47] <ant> eV64 : upstart has replaced the init daemon in ubuntu 6.10
[06:48] <whacky98> I have setup a user on my windows box with a password.  I try and just get the screen asking for my login info again
[06:48] <eV64> ant, not init, identd the thing that identifies you so you dont get errors when logging on irc
[06:49] <whacky98> anyone?
[06:49] <ant> eV64 : i keep reading things wrong, i gotta get some sleep
[06:49] <eV64> whacky98, what are the share/ access permissions on the files on the windows box? sometimes it helps to create a new user with no password and use that user's name to login
[06:49] <ant> :X
[06:49] <eV64> ant, sleep is for the weak!
[06:49] <whacky98> i tried my admin user which has no password and same issue
[06:49] <eV64> set a password
[06:49] <whacky98> not sure if I have to set anything up on samba via the console
[06:49] <eV64> really
[06:50] <SilverRavage> eV64: iam trying the legacy drivers even though it shouldnt be.
[06:50] <whacky98> I have a admin user with a password and it fails
[06:50] <eV64> SilverRavage, try the ubuntu forum
[06:50] <Romexios> how to give a user permission to run bg jobs?
[06:50] <SilverRavage> thos are to slow to get responese hehe
[06:50] <eV64> SilverRavage, or come back later, someone may be here who has installed nvidia bin drivers
[06:50] <whacky98> Everything works great except this
[06:50] <X86echo> i needed that
[06:51] <whacky98> Any ideas?
[06:51] <eV64> whacky98, if it is win xp pro, go to tools, folder options, disable simple file sharing
[06:51] <whacky98> it is windows vista ultimate
[06:51] <eV64> add everyone as a user to share and read/write/edit
[06:51] <rbellamy> what's the recommended 802.11n card?
[06:51] <whacky98> Simple file sharing is disabled.
[06:51] <eV64> can you access the share from another windows computer?
[06:51] <brianb> kind of a newbie question here: I'm seeing errors after updating packages on Feisty (on a fresh install of beta 5), relating to "vim-tiny", specifically "unable to stat `./usr/bin/vim.tiny' (which I was about to install): Input/output error" - this is with vim-tiny_1%3a7.0-164+1ubuntu7_i386.deb.  Anyone else seen the same thing?
[06:52] <whacky98> yes, and from my mac as well as my xbox 360
[06:52] <eV64> hmm
[06:52] <whacky98> just not from ubuntu
[06:52] <eV64> !windows | whacky98
[06:52] <ubotu> whacky98: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:52] <brianb> seems like the .deb might be corrupted, but I've re-downloaded it a couple of times
[06:52] <eV64> whacky98, i honestly don't know then
[06:52] <eV64> brianb, look in channel #ubuntu+1
[06:53] <donkeegan> help : my synaptic is not working ,  the error i  get is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11613/
[06:53] <brianb> thanks eV64
[06:53] <whacky98> I looked online other ppl have the issue with other linux says something about setting up the user and password in samba but alot of the commands they have do not work for me on ubuntu
[06:53] <mbb> is there an archive of planet.ubuntu? Lots of cool info there, but it scrolls away in a couple days...
[06:53] <jlowell> hey folks, problem installed ubuntu on my laptop but it only boots into gnome or anything but a black screen if I add vga=771 to grub boot line...
[06:53] <eV64> whacky98, are you using sudo?
[06:53] <whacky98> yes
[06:53] <ant> !samba | whacky98
[06:53] <ubotu> whacky98: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:54] <whacky98> I installed Swat but was not sure how to access it
[06:54] <eV64> donkeegan, it looks like google may help with your error, one sec
[06:54] <eV64> donkeegan, http://valery.bgit.net/blog-en/2006/11/13/apt-get-e-dynamic-mmap-ran-out-of-room/
[06:54] <ant> whacky98 : did you read the wiki?
[06:55] <ant> or the other link
[06:55] <donkeegan> thanks let me check and get back eV64
[06:55] <eV64> donkeegan, good luck
[06:56] <rbellamy> is there a recommended 802.11n card?
[06:56] <jlowell> can anyone help me with the problem i just posted above?
[06:56] <whacky98> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:56] <SilverRavage> Hey my beryl icon shows at the top
[06:56] <SilverRavage> but it doesnt seem like its working
[06:56] <whacky98> oops sorry wrong window
[06:57] <SilverRavage> no wobble windows
[06:57] <eV64> rbellamy, isn;t n still in draft?
[06:57] <rbellamy> hells yeah...
[06:57] <Moosejaw> how can i get azureus associated with torrent files?
[06:57] <ant> if i wanted wobbly windows i'd run WinME
[06:57] <rbellamy> but both D-Link and Linksys have APs for it
[06:57] <clearzen> SilverRavage: The fallback window isn't beryl. You need to add configuration to your xorg file more than likely. Or just sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[06:58] <clearzen> SilverRavage: If it is a nvidia card anyway
[06:58] <eV64> rbellamy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2243457
[06:58] <Firefishe> What is the current ubuntu-on-powerpc effort called?
[06:58] <X86echo> its time for sleep
[06:59] <cafuego_> Firefishe: latest is feisty, beta as of tomorrow
[06:59] <SilverRavage> clearzen: do i need to do a restart?
[06:59] <eV64> Firefishe, tomorrow is today here :)!
[06:59] <jlowell> hey folks, problem installed ubuntu on my laptop but it only boots into gnome or anything but a black screen if I add vga=771 to grub boot line...
[06:59] <eV64> dont add that to the boot line....
[06:59] <eV64> ?
[07:00] <clearzen> SilverRavage: You do not need to restart your system. /etc/init.d/gdm stop && /etc/init.d/gdm start should work
[07:00] <clearzen> or just /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:00] <jlowell> eV64: if I dont I just get a black screen after boot
[07:00] <rbellamy> eV64: yeppers... i finally entered a good search string to get me there...
[07:00] <eV64> then why don't you just leave that line in grub?
[07:00] <rbellamy> eV64: thanks for the pointer
[07:00] <eV64> rbellamy, no problem
[07:00] <jlowell> eV64: because it makes my screen look bad
[07:01] <Firefishe> cafuego_: so ubuntu is still supporting power pc?
[07:01] <eV64> jlowell, oh, do you have binary drivers?
[07:01] <eV64> !download Firefishe
[07:01] <eV64> !download | Firefishe
[07:01] <ubotu> Firefishe: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:01] <whacky98> Failed to modify password entry for user Whacky98$
[07:01] <whacky98> whacky98@whacky98-laptop:~$ sudo smbpasswd -a -m whacky98
[07:01] <whacky98> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user whacky98$. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[07:01] <whacky98> Failed to modify password entry for user whacky98$
[07:02] <whacky98> I get that error when I try to add my pc or user
[07:02] <jlowell> eV64: i havent installed my nvidia drivers yet
[07:02] <coffeegrindah> I'm having some headache moments here, I can't seem to format a partition on my USB stick to ext2 anymore, i was able to a week ago.. nothing has changed.. what gives?
[07:02] <donkeegan> eV64:  thanks it worked
[07:02] <eV64> donkeegan, sure
[07:02] <cafuego_> Firefishe: Yes, but that's the last one
[07:03] <Firefishe> cafuego_: thank you
[07:03] <Firefishe> I suppose I'll be getting an intel mac soon :)
[07:03] <eV64> Firefishe, the macbook pro's are amazing!
[07:03] <whacky98> any idea on my error
[07:04] <Firefishe> eV64: they run 'doze vista any good at all?
[07:04] <eV64> !paste | whacky98
[07:04] <ubotu> whacky98: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:04] <whacky98> how do i add a user to that password database?
[07:04] <donkeegan> is there any irc channel where i can get programming help ? on linux
[07:04] <SilverRavage> clearzen: when i run beryl i get Sorry, The program "glxinfo" close unexpectedly but the little beryl icon shows up still
[07:04] <Firefishe> donkeegan: fifty million places ;)
[07:04] <cafuego_> Firefishe: Nope, as they don't support 4GB ram
[07:04] <eV64> Firefishe, offtopic but yes. seamlessly with bootcamp, all step by step install very easy.  but why do you want msft? :-p
[07:04] <donkeegan> i tried learning to program device drivers and need some advice .
[07:05] <eV64> cafuego, haah
[07:05] <jlowell> eV64: any other advice for me?
[07:05] <donkeegan> can u suggest an appropriate place.
[07:05] <Firefishe> eV64: sorry for off topic.  I see your point.
[07:05] <eV64> jlowell, ask again later
[07:05] <jlowell> ok
[07:05] <eV64> jlowell, also try the forum
[07:06] <Firefishe> cafuego_: not supporting 4gb for a 2 grand plus machine is just silly..I think I shall wait a few months
[07:06] <eV64> Firefishe, what do you need 4gb ram for on a laptop?
[07:06] <coffeegrindah> is there any way to find out WHY a usb flash drive wont let me format it to ext2?
[07:06] <cafuego_> Firefishe: Hmm, the pros might actually, the normal macbooks don't afaik
[07:07] <beg1689> $2000? it should include 3gb of ram
[07:07] <beg1689> 4gb*
[07:07] <tritium> I've seen XP run under parallels on a MacBook Pro.  It's not that bad, actually.
[07:07] <cafuego_> tritium: XP runs in 256MB though, Vista likes 1GB
[07:07] <ferronica> how to Defragment HDD in ubutnu 6.06 LTS
[07:07] <whacky98> ok no help i guess?
[07:07] <cafuego_> (just like Gnome ;-)
[07:07] <ferronica> How to Defragment HDD in ubutnu 6.06 LTS
[07:08] <Firefishe> cafuego_: oh, I'm talking about the macbook pros, anyway.  hey, does flash work okay on the intel macs with ubuntu?
[07:08] <tritium> cafuego_: heh ;)
[07:08] <beg1689> windows xp runs greate in vmware, even has 3d accel (only for direct3d)
[07:08] <Dasnipa`> ferronica, you dont defrag
[07:08] <cafuego_> Firefishe: Dunno, I've not used an Intel mac.
[07:08] <Firefishe> tritium: that program is on my first buy list ;)
[07:08] <eV64> !defrag
[07:08] <tritium> cool
[07:08] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[07:08] <ferronica> Dasnipa: you in ubuntu no need to defrag. ???
[07:08] <Firefishe> defrag ubuntu???
[07:09] <eV64> ;)
[07:09] <Dasnipa`> !defrag | ferronica
[07:09] <ubotu> ferronica: please see above
[07:09] <beg1689> ferronica: not an issue, thats a "feature" of windows
[07:09] <Firefishe> or any other linux for that matter
[07:09] <eV64> i'll sell you a ext3 defragger and a dvd rewinder ;)
[07:09] <beg1689> il take 7
[07:10] <donkeegan> help : ive downloaded some mpeg files and avi files , when i write them on a cd they dont play on my DVD player. How do i convert them to dat format or any alternative
[07:10] <tritium> eV64: do they go to 11?
[07:10] <dylock> ug, apparently in reinstalling my nvidia driver i lost my sound
[07:10] <dylock> it took me almost 2 weeks to get my sound working last time
[07:10] <tritium> dylock: nvidia video driver?
[07:10] <eV64> tritium, huh?
[07:10] <dylock> yea
[07:10] <tritium> eV64: silly reference to Spinal Tap
[07:10] <eV64> tritium, not familiar :(
[07:11] <tritium> dylock: that sounds highly improbable
[07:11] <coffeegrindah> I've somehow lost the ability to format my usb drive o ext2 or ext3, reiserfs seems to work and so "does" fat 16/32, why not ext2??
[07:12] <eV64> tritium, looked it up. LOL
[07:12] <dylock> tritium: it might have to do with the xorg.conf getting rewritten
[07:12] <tritium> dylock: that has nothing to do with sound
[07:12] <Owner_> can someone test this site, is it up or down? http://office.homefrontus.com/windows/
[07:12] <dylock> but i dunno, all i know is my sound no longer works
[07:12] <Firefishe> dylock: sometimes you can use alsaconf to correct sound card issues
[07:12] <tritium> eV64: ;)
[07:12] <eV64> steven_home, works for me
[07:13] <steven_home> eV64, thanks
[07:13] <eV64> steven_home, sure.
[07:13] <dylock> hmm i dont seem to have alsaconf
[07:13] <coffeegrindah> is there any way to find out WHY a usb flash drive wont let me format it to ext2?
[07:13] <eV64> coffeegrindah, error logs?
[07:13] <Firefishe> dylock: you can always download alsacaonf
[07:13] <Firefishe> alsaconf..
[07:14] <Firefishe> are you using alsa?
[07:14] <dylock> i believe so
[07:14] <coffeegrindah> eV64no errors.. that I can see
[07:14] <Firefishe> I'd download alsaconf in the usual fashion...using Synaptic
[07:15] <dylock> hmm is it contained in a certain package, no hits come up for alsaconf
[07:15] <Firefishe> probably
[07:15] <Firefishe> dylock: do a search for alsa
[07:15] <Firefishe> I think it's alsa-utils or something like that
[07:15] <eV64> coffeegrindah, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Flash-Memory-HOWTO/basics.html
[07:15] <billy> greetings.
[07:16] <Firefishe> dylock: you run alsaconf as root from a separate login window before you log in to X (that's how I do it, and it gives me less problems)
[07:16] <keegan> help : ive downloaded some mpeg files and avi files , when i write them on a cd they dont play on my DVD player. How do i convert them to dat format or any alternative
[07:16] <eV64> hello fellow billy
[07:16] <Firefishe> it'll do a search of your system and detect cards, configure them (default responses are usually okay), then they *should/might* work ;)
[07:16] <eV64> keegan, depends what formats your dvd player can play.
[07:16] <billy> greetings earth_creature
[07:17] <eV64> i'm billy too... nevermind
[07:17] <keegan> it can play dat format
[07:17] <billy> bet you're not billy wayne.
[07:17] <keegan> but  i cant find a converter for avi or mpeg to dat
[07:17] <dylock> hmmm
[07:17] <eV64> keegan, roxio, toast, nero
[07:17] <dylock> alsa-utils installed and still no alsaconf
[07:18] <eV64> keegan, oh wait, we're in linux now :-o
[07:18] <jetscreamer> alsa-base maybe
[07:18] <keegan> yuo
[07:18] <Firefishe> jetscreamer:  good that
[07:18] <dylock> aye alsa-base is installed as well
[07:18] <eV64> keegan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936 google still works.  just checked
[07:18] <keegan> thanks
[07:18] <eV64> sure
[07:18] <dylock> only alsa commands are alsactl, alsamixer, and alsaplayer
[07:19] <jetscreamer> they're packed in .vob's btw and it's mpeg2
[07:19] <Firefishe> dylock: let me check the net for a sec
[07:19] <jetscreamer> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/index.html
[07:19] <Taime1> my computer thinks one of my cdroms is a floppy... how can i fix this? here is the dmesg: http://pastehere.com/?gkikqn
[07:19] <jetscreamer> keegan: ^^
[07:19] <keegan> hey jetscreamer
[07:19] <keegan> yes ?
[07:19] <jetscreamer> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/index.html
[07:20] <coffeegrindah> eV64 .. that still doesn't explain as to why i can't format the drive. it was an overall "what is" more than a how to, besides I've gone this far without. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11616/
[07:20] <jetscreamer> more than you ever wanted to know
[07:20] <keegan> thanks
[07:20] <coffeegrindah> eV64 .. no errors.. it's wierd
[07:20] <mneptok> jetscreamer: i'm probably the only one here old enough to get the reference :)
[07:21] <eV64> coffeegrindah, probably better to ask someone else
[07:22] <coffeegrindah> 's'all good
[07:22] <eV64> good luck with it
[07:22] <eV64> coffeegrindah, but what's really wrong with f32 on a usb stick?
[07:23] <eV64> why is mplayer preferred > vlc?
[07:24] <mirra> does anyone have a problem with the "Connect to Server" (w/ ssh)
[07:24] <Firefishe> dylock: I use alsaconf on debian 3.1 on my p4 box, but it may be deprecated.
[07:24] <dylock> ok
[07:24] <mirra> every like hour it locks up on me and I can no longer connect with it
[07:24] <Firefishe> ubuntu may have an upgraded version
[07:24] <Firefishe> I'll have to check it
[07:24] <dylock> well my sound card is recognized
[07:24] <DeL3e7> im getting a broken package error trying to install Nexuiz "Depends: nexuiz-data (>= 2.2.3-1) but 2.0-hotfix20060616-1 is to be installed"
[07:24] <DeL3e7> i try to force it but it doesnt work
[07:24] <coffeegrindah> eV64: everything when you're running linux OFF the stick.
[07:24] <ebotvine> jetscreamer: i'm probably the only one here old enough to get the reference :)
[07:25] <eV64> coffeegrindah, there are plenty of guides for that
[07:25] <titun> which ubuntu version is to download from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[07:25] <Firefishe> dylock: have you tried setting volume controls?
[07:25] <dylock> yea
[07:25] <coffeegrindah> eV64: I know, I've written one of them..
[07:25] <titun> it says 6.06 will be supported till 2009
[07:25] <dylock> ive pretty much made sure they were all on and maxed
[07:26] <eV64> right. it's lts (not the newest features but more stable)
[07:26] <kevmendoza> Hola
[07:26] <billy> titus:  6.06 would be a good choice.
[07:26] <titun> but the latest is 6.10 will be supported till only 2008, why so
[07:26] <kevmendoza> alguien habla espaol aca?
[07:26] <Madpilot> ubotu, es | kevmendoza
[07:26] <ubotu> kevmendoza: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:26] <eV64> get 6.10
[07:26] <coffeegrindah> eV64, it litterally just won't format if i use the full space on disk. if i say cut in half or only use 1 of the 4gb as exft2 I'm fine.
[07:26] <titun> billy: why this latest vesrion won't be supported much
[07:26] <eV64> not more stable but supported longer, mainly for enterprise users
[07:27] <Firefishe> dylock:  hmmm...have you tried rebooting the x server?
[07:27] <eV64> leave 1mb unused?
[07:27] <dylock> and X has nothing to do with controlling sound correct?
[07:27] <dylock> i can try rebooting
[07:27] <Firefishe> dylock:  sometimes x will do weird things.
[07:27] <Firefishe> what kind of a system are you running it on?
[07:27] <kevmendoza> Hola
[07:27] <eV64> titun, you can still upgrade 6.10.
[07:27] <dylock> a dell
[07:27] <kevmendoza> alguien habla espaol aca?
[07:27] <Firefishe> dylock: x can affect many things on occasion
[07:28] <Firefishe> laptop?
[07:28] <dylock> pc
[07:28] <eV64> titun, unless you are running a mission critical server, use 6.10
[07:28] <dylock> dimension 4600
[07:28] <kevmendoza> :s
[07:28] <Firefishe> so sound is supported through the kernel then?
[07:28] <dylock> uses a soundblaster live card
[07:28] <jeanmass> i want to delete the 1st user, the one you setup when installing kubuntu, but i cant!
[07:28] <coffeegrindah> basically i can partition it 1GB fat32, 1GB ext2, 2GB fat 32, and the drive works in linux, though the second fat 32 partition cannot be read by windows
[07:28] <dylock> it should b
[07:28] <titun> eV64: I plan to completely replace XP
[07:28] <kevmendoza> speak spanish here?
[07:28] <coffeegrindah> 4gm drive
[07:28] <Firefishe> dylock: ya...weird
[07:28] <diyerxa> Does anyone know if SaX2 will run on Ubuntu?
[07:28] <jeanmass> would should i do?
[07:28] <dylock> sound worked before i have nvidia troubles and X problems because of that
[07:28] <Madpilot> kevmendoza, #ubuntu-es
[07:28] <eV64> titun, are you running server applications? or normal desktop use?
[07:28] <titun> eV64: will use for c++ programming and net browsing
[07:29] <Firefishe> dylock: linux modules can be touchy at times
[07:29] <titun> only that much as of now
[07:29] <jetscreamer> partition it in windows then
[07:29] <billy> titun:  6.06 is long term supported to make it more attractive to certain users.  Most folks ride the wave of the new releases.  7.04 is will out soon.
[07:29] <kevmendoza> Madpilot.. como hago para entrar en esa sala? soy completamente nuevo con UBUNTU
[07:29] <dylock> Firefishe: how would i check to see if any modules were effected?
[07:29] <Firefishe> dylock: a quick and dirty fix would be to download and install everything with alsa in the title ;)
[07:29] <eV64> titun, get 6.10.  you can keep upgrading as new versions come out.  feisty will be out next month actually
[07:29] <Madpilot> ubotu, es | kevmendoza
[07:29] <ubotu> kevmendoza: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:29] <dylock> haha yea i could try that
[07:29] <Firefishe> dylock: I still think alsaconf should be there
[07:30] <jetscreamer> kevmendoza: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:30] <dylock> ill reinstall the ones i have currently installed
[07:30] <Firefishe> just read the package listings carefully
[07:30] <titun> eV64: so i can upgrade to 7.4 from 6.10 easily, i mean right from 6.10 desktop ??
[07:31] <gnu-linux> anyone here have experience with irssii?
[07:31] <titun> eV64: one thing more, I have heard there is no root user password for ubuntu
[07:31] <cafuego_> irssi? Yes
[07:31] <eV64> titun, ideally
[07:31] <jetscreamer> alsa-utils: usr/sbin/alsaconf
[07:31] <titun> so how do work as root user
[07:31] <Madpilot> titun, with sudo
[07:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | titun
[07:31] <eV64> !sudo
[07:31] <ubotu> titun: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:31] <titun> I have used fedora a little
[07:31] <gnu-linux> cafuego how can i configure my irssi to chat on ubuntu serve?
[07:32] <Firefishe> jetscreamer: you just gave me an idea...
[07:32] <titun> and while installing ubuntu will it ask me to register a root password or not ?
[07:32] <krzysiek> 541049
[07:32] <tritium> not
[07:32] <Firefishe> dylock: you need to do "su alsaconf" for it to work
[07:32] <billy> titun: yes.
[07:32] <cafuego_> gnu-linux: Hold on
[07:32] <gnu-linux> cafuego_ok
[07:33] <tritium> billy: it will not
[07:33] <dylock> ok ill try, all alsa packages are reinstalled
[07:33] <eV64> gnu-linux, read the irssi documentation.  join server irc.freenode.net
[07:33] <Madpilot> titun, no, Ubuntu doesn't use a seperate root password - read the RootSudo URL the bot gave you
[07:33] <billy> tritium: that's when i established *my* super user password.
[07:33] <Firefishe> I have to go...good luck to you dylock.  jetscreamer, eV64, cafuego_:  thanks for the assistance :)
[07:33] <Firefishe> be well
[07:33] <dylock> Firefishe: still doesn't exist
[07:33] <diyerxa> Has anyone tried running SaX2 on Ubuntu?
[07:33] <dylock> alright thanks for your help Firefishe
[07:33] <titun> Madpilot: reading...
[07:33] <eV64> Firefishe, bye
[07:33] <Firefishe> dylock:  if alsa-utils package is installed, try /usr/bin/alsaconf directly
[07:34] <tritium> billy: no, I don't think you did
[07:34] <Firefishe> gotta scram though...sorry to help and run...wife needs to get out of ciggie smoke place :) ;) hee
[07:34] <kevmendoza> Hola
[07:34] <tritium> !es
[07:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:34] <eV64> hah beat me
[07:35] <Darkkish> hey i want to listen to my ipod while its charging in ubuntu
[07:35] <billy> tritium:  i don't think i'm speaking the same language.  sorry.  just one password, which I was calling super user.
[07:35] <Madpilot> BrylieSupybot, are you a bot?
[07:35] <cafuego_> gnu-linux: I was going to pastebim some info, but pastebim is busted
[07:35] <BrylieSupybot> Madpilot: Error: "are" is not a valid command.
[07:35] <cafuego_> !test
[07:35] <eV64> Darkkish, can you listen to it while it's charging in windows?
[07:35] <ubotu> Failed.
[07:35] <gnu-linux> cafuego_ok
[07:35] <tritium> billy: your user's password, which you use with sudo
[07:35] <billy> tritium: right.
[07:35] <cafuego_> Madpilot: The slowest bot in the world
[07:35] <Madpilot> brylie, is that your bot?
[07:35] <Darkkish> eV64, you just unmount it
[07:35] <tritium> billy: :)
[07:36] <Darkkish> eV64, and iyou can listen while its charging
[07:36] <billy> tritium: i'm slow.
[07:36] <gnu-linux> cafuego_ that website i sent to me doesn't work
[07:36] <tritium> billy: no worries, buddy :)
[07:36] <Darkkish> eV64, tried that in linux but its still in dev... its not workign right
[07:36] <eV64> Darkkish, man umount
[07:36] <cafuego_> gnu-linux: ANyway, irssi has docs in /usr/share/doc/irssi
[07:36] <brylie> Madpilot: yea i just installed it
[07:36] <cafuego_> gnu-linux: You need to add some stuff to ~/.irssi/config, so it autoconnects at startup.
[07:37] <Madpilot> brylie, please keep it out of Ubuntu's channels, thanks.
[07:37] <brylie> ok
[07:37] <gnu-linux> cafuego_
[07:37] <gnu-linux> cafuego_ok
[07:37] <billy> hello pisedoffcracker1
[07:40] <tron9000> Hello, I'm new to Linux. I've installed g++ package with Adept Manager, how do I get it to recognize this C++ compiler in the terminal? Need to add something to the PATH$?
[07:41] <tritium> !b-e
[07:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:42] <rm_you> How can I take a video of my screen? What program would let me do this?
[07:42] <tron9000> ubotu, actually in a C++ programming class. I got NetBeans to install with it's C/C++ pack, and it uses g++ to compile I guess.
[07:42] <jetscreamer> gimp can
[07:42] <BHSPitMonkey> tron9000, heh, ubotu is a bot.
[07:43] <rm_you> lol
[07:43] <titun> please someone explain this sudo,
[07:43] <tron9000> oh, I'm new to irc as well, lol.
[07:43] <tritium> titun: read the wiki page ubotu told you about
[07:43] <coffeegrindah> I can't get this damn usb drive to format
[07:43] <BHSPitMonkey> titun, I know just the thing, one sec...
[07:43] <rm_you> jetscreamer: gimp can take VIDEO?
[07:43] <titun> coffeegrindah: I read it, but not clear
[07:43] <BHSPitMonkey> titun, http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[07:44] <tritium> !sudo | titun
[07:44] <ubotu> titun: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:44] <titun> ubotu: I have read that document
[07:44] <tritium> titun: ubotu is a bot.
[07:44] <BHSPitMonkey> titun, just read the link I sent you.
[07:44] <GigaClon> so titun what don't you understand?
[07:45] <Zorkmid25> youre all fags
[07:45] <jetscreamer> kinda http://gimp.org/tutorials/Advanced_Animations/
[07:45] <titun> my question is : ubuntu will not ask for a root password to register while installing
[07:45] <titun> so any user can use sudo to be root
[07:45] <BHSPitMonkey> That's quicker troll extinguishing than I'm used to seeing.
[07:45] <GigaClon> no
[07:45] <BHSPitMonkey> titun, not -any- user...
[07:45] <tritium> titun: no, only users in the admin group
[07:45] <GigaClon> only the installing user can sudo
[07:46] <BHSPitMonkey> titun, a user has to have the ability to use sudo enabled.
[07:46] <Madpilot> titun, no it won't, but no, only the first user created can sudo by default
[07:46] <GigaClon> also sudo commands are logged
[07:46] <titun> Oh, understood now
[07:46] <GigaClon> root commands are not
[07:46] <opla> hi does anybody ever try this?
[07:46] <opla> Multilingual dictionary via command line in Ubuntu
[07:47] <coffeegrindah> well basically up untill 2 days agao I had a 4gb usb drive partitioned with 700m FAt32 and 3+GB in ext2, a few days ago i needed to resize the 700MB to something a little more roomy. now, I can't seem to get my ext2 filesystem on the drive anymore (needs ext2 or 3 to boot the drive)
[07:47] <opla> *tried?
[07:48] <GigaClon> !away
[07:48] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[07:49] <wyndblade> !guidelines
[07:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:49] <tritium> !away > AwayCross
[07:50] <Helmi> hey guys - how can i get system information like this on the desktop: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/_attachments/Galerie(2f)GNOME(2f)2/gnome24.jpg
[07:51] <mneptok> Helmi: gkrellm
[07:52] <eV64> Helmi, http://www.howtoforge.com/gnome_gdesklets
[07:52] <Helmi> thanks mneptok eV64
[07:53] <eV64> sure
[07:54] <Ayabara2> anyone have a good alternative to amarok? I have a problem with amarok crashing my computer when I build my collection :-(
[07:54] <mirra> anyone have any idea how to remove the link from links_weblink.module when viewing a full node
[07:54] <mirra> from the bottom links
[07:54] <mirra> (like comments)
[07:55] <mneptok> Ayabara2: Rhythmbox? Banshee? Quod Libet?
[07:56] <Madpilot> Ayabara, muine?
[07:56] <Ayabara2> mneptok, Madpilot, thanks. never heard of muine and quod libet :-)
[07:56] <Jrabbit> I'm having issures runing Xchat under XGL+Beryl 3.0
[07:56] <Jrabbit> *0.3
[07:56] <mneptok> Ayabara2: how big is the collection?
[07:57] <Jrabbit> Xchat-gnome only runs under 'sudo xchat-gnome'
[07:57] <cafuego_> Jrabbit: #ubuntu-effects
[07:57] <cafuego_> Or don't run beryl, it's rubbish
[07:57] <mneptok> Ayabara2: Songbird is coming along nicely, but it's unhappy adding my 36K .mp3 collection from an NFS share.
[07:57] <shane634> well not rubbish so much as beta
[07:58] <Ayabara2> mneptok, <20GB. noone at #amarok could help me. I have tried different databases, but my computer always crashes. has happened in edgy, dapper and breezy :-/
[07:58] <Ayabara2> kinda scary, actually
[07:58] <mneptok> Ayabara2: look at Songbird, too
[07:58] <shane634> Ayabara, you have to add to amarok slowly not all at once
[07:58] <Jrabbit> Songbird isnot stable
[07:58] <Jrabbit> Not on linux
[07:58] <Ayabara2> shane634, I've trid that to, but it didn't help
[07:59] <dylock> hmm what tv channel usually accepts s-video
[07:59] <dylock> cv1?
[07:59] <shane634> Ayabara, hmm
[07:59] <mneptok> Jrabbit: it worked fine for me except for importing
[07:59] <Madpilot> I've got 50+Gb of music, muine never has trouble
[07:59] <Jrabbit> heh
[07:59] <Jrabbit> Its lacking in an equalizer too
[07:59] <Ayabara2> shane634, I know. the people in the amarok channel gave me up in the end :-/
[07:59] <Jrabbit> I use amarok with 4000+ songs so it should work.
[07:59] <mneptok> Madpilot: 50 gigabits of mp3s?! whoa.  :P
[08:00] <shane634> Ayabara, i don't have the answer but someone here does
[08:00] <Madpilot> mneptok, mostly ogg, some flac - the flac account for most of the Gb, of course...
[08:00] <Jrabbit> muine?
[08:00] <gnu-linux> anyone know how can i join a channel throught irssi?
[08:00] <mneptok> Madpilot: i think you mean GB. ;)
[08:00] <Jrabbit>  /j
[08:00] <Ayabara2> what I need from my player an equalizer and a decent music library
[08:00] <Jrabbit>  /j #chan
[08:00] <Ayabara2> plus extreme coolness of course
[08:00] <Madpilot> mneptok, yes, I did... I always forget that "Gb" means something too
[08:00] <mneptok> Ayabara2: Rhythmbox treats me right.
[08:01] <mneptok> ubotu: 50000000/8
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 50000000/8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <gnu-linux> thankx Jrabbit
[08:01] <Jrabbit> cafuego, -effects is over rate
[08:01] <Jrabbit> *d
[08:01] <shane634> Ayabara, yeah it is cool here i do vid and wireless mainly though
[08:01] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> `Veche
[08:01] <Ayabara2> mneptok, do I need a plugin to get an eq in Rhytmbox?
[08:01] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> :)
[08:01] <Jrabbit> I'll go bug # beryl
[08:01] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> only english hear?
[08:02] <tritium> ^MaRkO_LaHoR^: yes
[08:02] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> Silve
[08:02] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> brate
[08:02] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> moj
[08:02] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> Ke Ke Ke...
[08:02] <dylock> sweet got my s-video working
[08:02] <tritium> English, ^MaRkO_LaHoR^
[08:02] <dylock> not just need to figure out why alsa sound isnt working
[08:02] <Silvester> dobro jutro
[08:02] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> i don't know to tolk in engliish
[08:02] <surpl2en> hi guys, for some reason I can't get sound to play in my media players, but sound works on system beeps, or for example when KDE is reporting an error
[08:02] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> i am serbian
[08:02] <surpl2en> anybody aware of how i can debug, or fix this issue?
[08:03] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> Silvester
[08:03] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> ajde startuj neku ribu
[08:03] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> da vidimo
[08:03] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> muvanje
[08:03] <shane634> !sound
[08:03] <tritium> ^MaRkO_LaHoR^: stop
[08:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:03] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> what why?
[08:03] <Ayabara2> I need foobar2000 for linux :-)
[08:04] <tritium> ^MaRkO_LaHoR^: /join #ubuntu-sr for Serbian
[08:04] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> thanks man
[08:04] <dylock> interesting thank you shane634 ill look into that
[08:04] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> :)
[08:04] <dylock> and thank you ubuntu bot
[08:04] <valehru_> Hey guys, does anyone know an app that can list the contents of a directory and all of its subdirectories?  need it in a text format...
[08:04] <shane634> dylock, no problem
[08:05] <Helmi> mneptok: gkrellm looks generally nice but it doesn't support this free kind of text display, you know - do you know any alternative? Gdesklets also don't seem to support this
[08:05] <shane634> dylock, thank ubotu man
[08:05] <dylock> thanks ubotu
[08:05] <Ayabara2> I want someone to apply a regexp-knowledge patch to my brain
[08:05] <shane634> dylock, ubotu is a bot lol
[08:05] <ferronica> Any one here using it here gLabels Label Designer???
[08:06] <ferronica> i need help :(
[08:06] <Madpilot> tritium, evidently we need an !sr tell for Serbian now
[08:06] <Madpilot> ferronica, still having issues with it?
[08:06] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> Idemo tako mi i pricamo na srpskom a oni cute
[08:06] <ferronica> Madpilot: Oh yes
[08:06] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> feronica
[08:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: its not printing on specified round area :(
[08:07] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> Silvester
[08:07] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> vidi ovo
[08:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: Some print go out of circle
[08:07] <Madpilot> ferronica, not at all? You're using a template that matches your paper?
[08:07] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> mamu vam cmar pizda
[08:07] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> mozes da psujes do mile volje
[08:07] <Madpilot> ^MaRkO_LaHoR^, please stop. Serbian in #ubuntu-sr
[08:07] <surpl2en> everything is fine w/ the sound
[08:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: There are 100 of templates
[08:07] <surpl2en> and the application is set to play with it
[08:07] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> this is not serbian
[08:07] <surpl2en> still no sound though
[08:07] <tritium> ^MaRkO_LaHoR^: I've already warned you
[08:08] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> this is turkis
[08:08] <surpl2en> and no output from the application
[08:08] <valehru_> so does anyone know an application that list all the contents of a folder?
[08:08] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> and this is greece
[08:08] <Madpilot> !tr
[08:08] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[08:08] <surpl2en> valehru_: ls
[08:08] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> basal prala marko oromna tekele
[08:08] <surpl2en> heh
[08:08] <ferronica> Madpilot: will i scan my paper and send to you
[08:08] <valehru_> surpl2en, I need to list all of the subdirs contents as well at the same time
[08:08] <mneptok> Helmi: try Conky
[08:08] <ferronica> Madpilot: SO that you can see it
[08:08] <ferronica> Madpilot: what paper i am talking about ??????
[08:08] <Madpilot> ferronica, does the package your paper came in have a template number on it? Avery templates are standard here
[08:09] <Helmi> mneptok: thanks i will
[08:09] <dylock> ug
[08:09] <dylock> apparently no video is working either
[08:09] <dylock> just a blue area
[08:09] <surpl2en> valehru_: do a  find ./ in the pwd
[08:09] <surpl2en> that should do it
[08:09] <shane634> dylock, what do you mean?
[08:09] <Zewey> valehru_: ls -R will do
[08:09] <ferronica> Madpilot: I dont think so
[08:09] <surpl2en> this is horrible
[08:09] <surpl2en> how can the sound not work :-(
[08:09] <surpl2en> when i do Test Soudn it plays sound
[08:10] <surpl2en> none of my applications play sound
[08:10] <ferronica> Madpilot: Paper Brand i know "Desmat"
[08:10] <dylock> well i had some nvidia driver problems, so i did an upgrade, that in turn messed up X so i had to fix that and i finally got the nvidia driver working
[08:10] <valehru_> Zewey, is there anyway I can export that into a text file?  It takes up a lot.
[08:10] <ferronica> Madpilot: www.desmat.com
[08:10] <Madpilot> ferronica, none at all? Does the paper company have a website?
[08:10] <surpl2en> oh ok
[08:10] <dylock> not nothing plays sound, and apparently no video works
[08:10] <surpl2en> firefox plays sound
[08:10] <dylock> *now
[08:10] <surpl2en> through Flash player
[08:10] <surpl2en> weird
[08:10] <valehru_> l
[08:10] <shane634> dylock, you have msn?
[08:10] <dylock> yea
[08:10] <shane634> add shane47143
[08:11] <ferronica> Madpilot: www.desmat.com
[08:11] <surpl2en> anybody know how i can debug  Xfmedia player for sound?
[08:11] <Madpilot> ferronica, can you find the paper you bought there, and see if it's got any more information?
[08:12] <shane634> surpl2en, sounds like a module issue
[08:12] <dylock> @hotmale.com shane634 ?
[08:12] <surpl2en> shane634: but the sound works
[08:12] <shane634> surpl2en, perhaps module assistant will help
[08:12] <surpl2en> what is the repository i have to add for good Meida Players like vlc player ?
[08:12] <ferronica> Madpilot: paper packet written --> A4ST-2CD
[08:12] <surpl2en> where is module assist?
[08:12] <ferronica> Madpilot: i think model number
[08:12] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> .... /server -m irc.krstarica.com
[08:12] <shane634> dylock, yes hotmail.com
[08:13] <shane634> shane47143@hotmail.com
[08:13] <shane634> dylock,
[08:13] <ferronica> Madpilot: Label Dia (114.5*1.0)mm
[08:13] <ricky> anyone know how to quit from irssi without close the terminal?
[08:13] <dylock> says yoru not online shane634
[08:13] <shane634> dylock,  i just signed on lol
[08:14] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> Serbs?
[08:14] <dylock> aye still says your not online
[08:14] <Madpilot> ferronica, and one of the basic Avery templates doesn't work? Everyone seems to copy avery's templates
[08:14] <Coffeegrindah> is anyone food with filesystems on flash drives?
[08:14] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> Serbian>
[08:14] <shane634> dylock,  i am i assure you
[08:15] <Coffeegrindah> good not food?
[08:15] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> anybody
[08:15] <shane634> dylock, try adding me again
[08:15] <Madpilot> ^MaRkO_LaHoR^, you've been told - #ubuntu-sr
[08:15] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> ma nema nikog tamo
[08:15] <^MaRkO_LaHoR^> seljaku
[08:15] <ricky> anyone know how to colse  irssi without close the terminal?
[08:15] <dylock> listed as offline
[08:15] <ferronica> Madpilot: What you said????
[08:15] <shane634> dyloc hmm
[08:16] <shane634> dylock,  got yahoo?
[08:16] <dylock> nope, i got aim
[08:16] <Coffeegrindah> how would I go about finding out what's whron with my flash drive?
[08:16] <dylock> lemme reload gaim maybe its funky
[08:16] <Madpilot> ferronica, if you look at the list of templates in gLabels, many of them are for Avery products. Many other companies just copy Avery's layouts, so the Avery templates will work on non-Avery paper.
[08:16] <shane634> dylock, give me your msn and i will see if i can add ya
[08:17] <billy> valehru: ls -R | tee filename
[08:17] <surpl2en> can somebody help debug my sound to work in my kfmedia player ?
[08:17] <surpl2en> it can work on the system and in Firefox, but not in the player or other players I have installed
[08:18] <shane634> surpl2en, you have all the plugins right?
[08:18] <surpl2en> shane634: which plugins ?
[08:18] <Coffeegrindah> can anyone tell me why a drive would allow me to format it in fat but not ext2/3? it's driving me up the wall
[08:18] <Madpilot> ferronica, I don't accept files via IRC - sorry.
[08:18] <ferronica> Madpilot: Accept one File
[08:19] <ferronica> Madpilot: Its just a Scanned Paper that i use
[08:19] <derek_> Hi
[08:19] <ferronica> Madpilot: see what type of paper i am using
[08:19] <derek_> I tried to install a TTF font by copying it into fonts:/// but it did not install
[08:19] <surpl2en> shane634: which plugins ?
[08:19] <derek_> It did not even seem to be copied
[08:19] <wday> Hello, I can't seem to find the answer to this on the forums/google -- I'm trying to use rdesktop (tsclient) to connect to a local vmware windows session -- it will only connect as root, if i run rdesktop as my user account i just get connection refused
[08:19] <shane634> surpl2en, the mplayer plugin and such
[08:19] <ferronica> Madpilot: shall i send????
[08:20] <surpl2en> no i dont think so
[08:20] <surpl2en> i am not using mplayer though
[08:20] <surpl2en> don't see the reason why i would need that
[08:20] <surpl2en> or the mplayer plugins
[08:20] <shane634> surpl2en, you using totem?
[08:20] <Madpilot> ferronica, have you tried all the templates in glabels that look like they might work?
[08:20] <surpl2en> no, i am using kfmediaplayer
[08:20] <surpl2en> i have totem also, but totem doesn't parse the codecs for some reason
[08:20] <surpl2en> with kfmediaplayer i can see video but no audio
[08:20] <ferronica> Madpilot: YES upto 20 templates :(
[08:20] <surpl2en> with totem i can't see both
[08:21] <ferronica> Madpilot: wasted many papers :(
[08:21] <ferronica> Madpilot: Thats why i wanna to send you my paper type
[08:21] <Madpilot> ferronica, glabels has an easy utility for creating new templates - you might have to do that.
[08:21] <Madpilot> ferronica, fine, resend it...
[08:22] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok send
[08:22] <ferronica> Madpilot: Got
[08:23] <Madpilot> ferronica, it's hard to tell from that image, but there's two CD labels on there, one above the other, right?
[08:23] <ferronica> Madpilot: yes yes
[08:23] <ferronica> Madpilot: just zoom it
[08:24] <Madpilot> ferronica, there are lots of templates that should work fine for sheets like those - I gave you a couple to try last night
[08:24] <ferronica> Madpilot: but problem is not exactly they print over my Labels
[08:25] <DarkED> hmm, anyone else having trouble installing gstreamer and vlc?
[08:25] <shane634> surpl2en, totem xine?
[08:25] <Madpilot> ferronica, I don't know why they wouldn't work, assuming they're A4-sized templates. There's a bit of overlap with the edges of the label, but that's deliberate
[08:26] <Ayabara2> how do I make inetd create /etc/inetd.conf?
[08:27] <Ayabara2> vmware server needs it, but it is not created when I start the inetd service
[08:31] <ferronica> Madpilot: do you how to correctly fit photo on template
[08:33] <Madpilot> ferronica, use the image tool in gLabels
[08:34] <lkthomas> guys
[08:34] <DarkED> hey, could someone on Edgy do me a favor and try to install vlc?
[08:34] <lkthomas> does ich5 support NCQ ?
[08:34] <DarkED> for some reason apt is telling me it's not installable due to broken dependencies
[08:34] <ferronica> Madpilot: upto that is okay how to correctly paste over it
[08:34] <Madpilot> ferronica, what do you mean?
[08:34] <DarkED> but i installed it just yesterday before i reformatted to reinstall ubuntu
[08:38] <nomasteryoda> DarkED, did you enable universe, multiverse and restricted repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <keegan> hmm i am having trouble installing tovid
[08:38] <DarkED> nomasteryoda: yes, all my repos in sources.list are uncommented
[08:38] <Ayabara2> does anyone know how I initially create my inetd.conf file?
[08:38] <nomasteryoda> also did you do apt-get update
[08:38] <jamie> hello, does anyone know if hardware accelleration for my ATI Raedon x300 card is supported in Ubuntu?
[08:38] <DarkED> nomasteryoda: yep, bout 10 times now :)
[08:39] <ferronica> Madpilot: Just trying to print over my Labels correctly :(
[08:39] <nomasteryoda> that is definitely not right....
[08:39] <DarkED> nomasteryoda: i know... i thought the repo might be down but other repos that use the same server work
[08:40] <DarkED> aha! i figured out the problem
[08:40] <DarkED> stupid kate was saving it as a backup every time i saved ... i had to manually type in the filename
[08:40] <DarkED> odd
[08:40] <nomasteryoda> DarkED, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2269138
[08:40] <nomasteryoda> ah
[08:40] <nomasteryoda> ok
[08:40] <nomasteryoda> nvm
[08:40] <DarkED> ok, and it still cant find gstreamer
[08:41] <ferronica> Madpilot: just halfh inch from left side print is out and right halfh inch no print :(
[08:41] <nomasteryoda> when you do an update, all the repos servers respond ok?
[08:41] <ferronica> Madpilot: what is this..............:(
[08:41] <nomego> Hmm I have a diskimage as a file.. how do I mount it?
[08:41] <Madpilot> ferronica, you might have to do a custom template - like I said, gLabels has a helper setup to make that fairly easy.
[08:41] <nomego> I downloaded it from hp but it seems like a dd if=/dev/hda of=file.dd
[08:42] <DarkED> nomasteryoda: just about to do an update
[08:42] <ferronica> Madpilot: Okay
[08:42] <nomasteryoda> nomego, try this....
[08:42] <nomasteryoda> sudo mkdir /mnt/diskimage
[08:43] <nomasteryoda> sudo mount -o loop /pathto/yourimage /mnt/diskimage
[08:43] <DarkED> nomasteryoda: ok, i got it, multiverse wasnt even on the sources.list! lol
[08:43] <tritium> !enter
[08:43] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:43] <nomego> nomasteryoda: yeah I did.. but it's not a partition, it's a disk
[08:43] <nomasteryoda> right. You can mount it still... if its raw data.
[08:44] <ferronica> Madpilot: please select the basic shape of the labels or cards????
[08:44] <ferronica> Madpilot: which one i choose
[08:44] <nomego> nomasteryoda: ok.. so what filesystem do I need to mount it?
[08:45] <Madpilot> ferronica, how about the one called "CD/DVD label"?
[08:45] <nomego> nomasteryoda: (it says I must specify the filesystem type)
[08:45] <ferronica> Madpilot: as u say :)
[08:46] <ferronica> what about the measurement
[08:47] <DiYerxa> Does anyone know if it's possible to run SaX2 on Ubuntu?
[08:47] <ferronica> Madpilot: what about the measurement
[08:47] <Madpilot> ferronica, measure one of the actual sheets you have in front of you
[08:48] <ferronica> Madpilot: that is A4 size
[08:48] <Madpilot> ferronica, use a ruler to measure the actual layout of the actual labels on the actual sheet, I mean
[08:48] <nomasteryoda> DiYerxa, why?
[08:49] <usbLive> so really what's the deal with ext2? I've gota a messed up issue with a flash drive that won't allow me to partition 3 of the 4 gb as ext2 the first 1gb being fat. the only way i can get the thing to format is if i squeeze in another partition AFTER the ext2 one, like 1gm FAT16, 1GB ext2, and 2gb Reiser of JFS
[08:49] <nomasteryoda> it is not.... DiYerxa that is one messed up control box for suse .... If you have Ubuntu you should not need YaST
[08:49] <DiYerxa> nomasteryoda, for dual head support. and i just liked how SaX2 is easy to set up
[08:50] <nomasteryoda> ah
[08:50] <nomasteryoda> ok
[08:50] <nomasteryoda> if you have Nvidia, the nvidia-settings is great for that purpose
[08:51] <DiYerxa> SaX2 isn't specifically for SuSE, is it?
[08:51] <nomasteryoda> the ati applet works very well too on ati cards supporting the proprietary driver from ati
[08:52] <nomasteryoda> if it is in the debian repos, then you can probably install for ubuntu, but yes. To answer that question it is a SuSE thing.
[08:53] <DiYerxa> yea, I spose I haven't seen it on any other distrobutions.
[08:54] <DiYerxa> I found the web site though, http://sax.berlios.de/, I can download the RPMs, which I converted to .deb ... but after installing them, SaX2 wouldn't run
[08:54] <nomasteryoda> but again, if you have one of those cards, the configuration is not too difficult on Ubuntu... I in fact have an Nvidia and use nvidia-settings with the card daily... I can enable on the fly the TV out on the card to watch my movies, then disable it when I want to only have the PC
[08:55] <nomasteryoda> right, there are definite difference between how suse's file tree is setup and how debian/ubuntu is designed.
[08:55] <Freeza^> what about ati? i cant seem to get my ati driver to work for the life of me
[08:55] <nomasteryoda> you could modifiy the source, rebuild the package and release it to the community for ubuntu
[08:55] <nomasteryoda> nn
[08:56] <DiYerxa> well, I've configured my xorg.conf manually, and been able to run my dual monitor. but i get some glitches
[08:57] <Ayabara2> does ubuntu have a sample inetd.conf file somewhere?
[09:03] <Freeza^> hey is there a way to have an application bar at the bottom in gnome kind of like the one thats in osx?
[09:04] <Flannel> Freeza^: there are.  Uh, I personally don't know how/what/etc.  But, they do exist, so, don't give up! ;)
[09:04] <shone> hey dudes
[09:05] <shone> can anyone tell me where do i download
[09:05] <shone> the "alternate install disc" of ubuntu
[09:05] <Flannel> shone: for Edgy or Dapper?
[09:05] <shone> either
[09:05] <Flannel> Freeza^: you might check the forums (ubuntuforums.org), search for "OSX" or something
[09:06] <Flannel> shone: At the new download page, down at the bottom there's some "more options" sort of thing.
[09:06] <Flannel> shone: that'll get you to the old download page,
[09:06] <shone> ok tnx :)
[09:07] <Flannel> shone: If you're getting Edgy, fro mthere, you'll have to click (once selected a mirror), the "Additional INstallation Options" like, to get to a file listing like you're used to (well, like they used to be)
[09:07] <damn> give me Feisty Fawn beta law
[09:08] <damn> hey varka :>
[09:08] <shatrat> Freeza^, there are a few different programs out there that do that, none of them work well enough for me though.  The best one is avant window navigator, theres a thread on the forums on how to install it.
[09:08] <varka> hi
[09:09] <shatrat> hi
[09:10] <Freeza^> ahh ok thanks
[09:10] <Galga> hi, how can i change my resolution. to other than available. i have only two options, 1024 x 768 and 800 x 600
[09:11] <Flannel> !fixres | Galga
[09:11] <ubotu> Galga: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:11] <Galga> do i need to configure /etc/X11/xconfig ?
[09:12] <eV64> Galga, it can't hurt to do a bit more reading and learn some extra stuff. look at the links first
[09:12] <Galga> Flannel, previously i did sudo nano /etc/X11/xonfig. But the resolution i want is not available
[09:13] <eV64> Galga, please read the last link
[09:13] <AnAnt> Hello, I have a wierd problem at work, we have a local network in which there is a linux machine that has an NFS share, and the rest of the linux machines (clients) mount that NFS share. The problem is that if a linux client cannot access the internet (for example if the default gateway is not configured correctly), it cannot mount the NFS share although it can ping the NFS server ! What could the problem be ?
[09:13] <Galga> eV64, ok.
[09:13] <Galga> thanks
[09:16] <mneptok> AnAnt: stop mounting the share using names. use IP addresses. ;)
[09:17] <AnAnt> mneptok: the /etc/exports is exporting to IP address not host name
[09:17] <xipietotec> mneptok: do you know if gedit accepts user perl plugins?
[09:17] <AnAnt> mneptok: the /etc/exports  of the NFS server is exporting to IP address not host name
[09:17] <mneptok> xipietotec: i don't use gedit
[09:17] <xipietotec> damn...nvu then?
[09:17] <mneptok> AnAnt: but the clients?
[09:17] <AnAnt> mneptok: and the NFS client does mount hostname, but that hostname is in the /etc/hosts (ie. not looked up via DNS)
[09:18] <mneptok> xipietotec: WYSIWYG html editors are for kids "designing" their MySpace Christina Aguilera tribute page.  >:)
[09:19] <damn> xipietotec?
[09:20] <xipietotec> mneptok: I've got an absolutely *awesome* perl plugin....that takes plain text and uses a single markup syntax to produce valid xhtml with css, tex, mathml, and about 15 other markup languages.
[09:22] <shane634> any other vid or wireless issues this evening?
[09:23] <AnAnt> mneptok: well ?
[09:23] <shane634> i can only help much with vid and wireless lol
[09:24] <khaile> Hi!
[09:24] <Freeza^> i had stupid wireless issues earlier but it was just the stupid acer_acpi having for me modprobe it twice to load
[09:24] <shatrat> Yes, is it possible for me to construct a draft-n card out of an old pci 10/100 ethernet card, a handful of twigs, and the letter U carved out of a potatoe?
[09:25] <shane634> good i shall retire then goodnight to all
[09:25] <xipietotec> shatrat: yes, but you need a paperclip, haven't you seen MacGuyver?
[09:25] <shatrat> I dont have any paperclips, I dont use paper anymore
[09:25] <shane634> shatrat, and an ink pen
[09:25] <shatrat> I wipe with kittens
[09:25] <shatrat> You can get kittens for free at the shelter and theyre softer than toilet paper
[09:26] <shane634> shatrat, wow man wow
[09:26] <phire> But they make their own mess
[09:26] <xipietotec> ....dude, that totally ruins the flavor shatrat
[09:26] <phire> and toilet paper doesn't need food
[09:26] <shane634> i only handle legit issues man
[09:26] <phire> and Thats horrible
[09:27] <shane634> qhire or litter
[09:27] <shane634> phire, lol sorry
[09:27] <AndrewB> Could we move this convo to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:28] <shane634> AndrewB, do they have vid and wireless issues there?
[09:28] <AndrewB> Nope.. can't say I do.
[09:28] <phire> now, there was a reason why I was here
[09:29] <shane634> then i would be useless like i am here lol
[09:29] <khaile> Signoff, are you going to signoff? LOL
[09:29] <phire> oh yea, I'm having problems with perl and locales: "perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[09:29] <phire> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[09:29] <phire>         LANGUAGE = (unset),
[09:29] <phire>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[09:29] <phire>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[09:29] <phire>     are supported and installed on your system.
[09:29] <phire> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")."
[09:30] <wyndblade> trying to compile a regular kernel for x86 ubuntu should I use optimization for athy64 or athlon on an amd64?
[09:30] <shane634> !perl
[09:30] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[09:31] <shane634> ubotu, thanks as usual
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks as usual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <shane634> lol
[09:31] <phire> lol
[09:31] <phire> !locales
[09:31] <luke> hey, does anyone know how to download an entire folder from http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/pics/oxygen/?
[09:31] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[09:31] <shane634> !fools
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <shane634> lol
[09:32] <luke> !svn
[09:32] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[09:32] <shane634> sorry folks
[09:33] <shane634> later folks perhaps i can be of use tomorrow
[09:34] <huXfluX> Hello all! I'm trying to set-up NAT/Masquerade but when running command "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE", i get "iptables v1.3.5: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)". I'm running Ubuntu Edgy. What can i do? THANKS!
[09:34] <orange_> how do i verify the checksum of a downloaded image?
[09:34] <PocketIRC> How do I get fortune offending?
[09:35] <shinichizio> I have got a dumb question about files from the synaptic package manager.
[09:35] <huXfluX> Also, when running "modprobe iptable_nat", i get "FATAL: Module iptable_nat not found.". HELP please.
 What?
[09:35] <shinichizio> PocketIRC: Where are they? I've installed ffmpeg and wine, and I cannot find or use either of them. ;_;
 what happens if you write wine in terminal?
[09:36] <KenSentMe> DOes anyone here use Democracy Player and installed the latest backport on Edgy?
[09:36] <shinichizio> Er, hm.
[09:37] <shinichizio> It's creating a configuration directory.
[09:37] <shinichizio> Should I do that after I get packages? -utter newbie-
[09:37] <lasking> hello
[09:38] <lasking> who knows how to upgrade my ubuntu to kubuntu?
[09:38] <PocketIRC> hmm I dont think you can open wine... you open exefiles WITH wine if you understand?
[09:38] <mneptok> lasking: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:38] <shinichizio> PocketIRC: I understand. But how do I use ffmpeg (or ffplay or whichever thing I am supposedly using)
[09:39] <lasking> i do it but i can't use kdeO:-)
[09:39] <lasking> install kubuntu-desktop is not usefull
[09:40] <mneptok> lasking: that's how you install Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu
[09:40] <mneptok> so yes, it is useful :)
[09:40] <lasking> install kde  too?
 why did u install ffmpeg to start with? convert movies?
[09:41] <mneptok> it's part of kubuntu-desktop
[09:41] <shinichizio> PocketIRC: Apparently, I don't have the proper decoder to play .avi files. This was something I wish to rectify.
[09:41] <lasking> oh   thank you;)
[09:41] <catxk> since installing ubuntu, my computer has been shutting itself of every now and then without warning... any ideas?
[09:41] <catxk> didn't have the problem under windows
[09:42] <gordonjcp> catxk: odd
[09:42] <mneptok> catxk: hardware issue?
[09:42] <gordonjcp> overheating?
 what playe?
[09:42] <Galga> eV64, the problem is not with resolution exactly. But when I have a resolution of 800 x 600, I am unable to see the buttons which appear on any long dialogue box. If I increase the resolution, then i need to scroll everytime i need to access something from control panel
[09:42] <shinichizio> PocketIRC: Totem video player, I think
[09:42] <mneptok> shinichizio: you want the ffmpeg plugin for gstreamer
[09:43] <snadge> why isnt dri working with ati card and fglrx driver in edgy? :)
[09:43] <tester> i have ubuntu on a usb stick (live cd version).. it seems the os is in the memory.. because when i make changes they are not saved on the usb stick.. anyone know how i can save changes?
[09:43] <gordonjcp> catxk: what happens when you boot into Windows now?
[09:43] <mneptok> !gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[09:43] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1325 kB, installed size 3208 kB
[09:43] <mneptok> ^^ shinichizio ^^
[09:43] <shinichizio> mneptok: So would I look that up on synaptic, or elsewhere? Again, I am a newbie. I will say and ask dumb things.
[09:43] <snadge> i have been following howtos, but no matter what i do.. i cant seem to get dri to be enabled with edgy's fglrx driver
[09:43] <gordonjcp> tester: make sure you're saving on the memory stick, then
[09:44] <catxk> gordonjcp: why would I wanna boot into windows? :) seriouslly, no I haven't tried
[09:44] <tester> gordonjcp, how do i do that? there are no folder on the usbstick with /etc /bin etc... it seems it is coming from another place..
[09:44] <catxk> mneptok: yeah, I guess, but more like driver issue perhaps since I haven't had the problem under windows
[09:44] <shinichizio> mneptok: Ah, found it. I'll grab that and see if things improve.
[09:45] <mneptok> catxk: that means nothing
[09:45] <catxk> and it happenes now more often since I installed beryl
[09:45] <lasking> who can tell me a best sources.list
[09:45] <mneptok> lasking: it's already installed :)
[09:45] <tester> gordonjcp, how do i do that? there are no folder on the usbstick with /etc /bin etc... it seems it is coming from another place..
[09:46] <yell0w> lasking, it all depends on what you need, how much stuff, are you a free-software nut or not
[09:46] <lasking> my speed it too slow
[09:46] <yell0w> lasking, the default should be fine for most people
[09:46] <lasking> not for me
[09:47] <yell0w> lasking, what's the problem ?
[09:47] <lasking> my apt-get speed just  10K/s
[09:47] <gordonjcp> tester: I heard you the first time
[09:47] <gordonjcp> tester: don't repeat things over and over
[09:48] <gordonjcp> tester: have a look and see what's actually on the memory stick, and see if it's maybe mounted in /media
[09:48] <acuster> hey all, I have a us keyboard with right-alt as a 'Third level modifier' how do I find out what keys provide modifiers (accents)?
[09:48] <gordonjcp> catxk: if it keeps shutting down - as in actually powering off - then that sounds like overheating to me
[09:48] <lasking> who's the tester?
[09:48] <xipietotec> acuster: preferences = keyboard settings
[09:48] <khaile> what is he testing?
[09:49] <gordonjcp> catxk: locking up would maybe be memory or overheating
[09:49] <khaile> what's going on?
[09:49] <nanotalk> hi.. where to setup proxy for apt ?
[09:49] <gordonjcp> catxk: in general I think it's time to get the air duster out ;-)
[09:49] <tester> gordonjcp: there are 2 partitions: 700mb fat16 and 1400mb(about 50 files) ext2(empty)...
[09:49] <nanotalk> (synaptic)
[09:49] <gordonjcp> tester: bizarre
[09:49] <yell0w> lasking, the default includes the minimum updates for the security and up-to-date of your system
[09:49] <tester> top
[09:49] <acuster> xipietotec, how do I see which key does what?
[09:50] <gordonjcp> tester: the 700M fat16 partition is about big enough to hold an Ubuntu ISO, could that be what's in there?
[09:50] <lasking> really?
[09:50] <xipietotec> acuster: essentially, look through your level modifiers in the keyboard preferences, and then monkey around with keys =)
[09:50] <gordonjcp> tester: I haven't played with booting of a USB stick, so I'm not sure how it goes together
[09:50] <tester> there is no iso on it, just a kernel with some extra files..
[09:50] <acuster> there used to be a keyboard window that showed the current state of keys (e.g. changed to caps when the shift key was held down)
[09:50] <shinichizio> Okay, I have a new problem. My dialer program caused my computer to arbitrarily reset. X_X
[09:51] <gordonjcp> tester: sounds like the 1400M part should me mounted somewhere, possibly under /media
[09:51] <catxk> gordonjcp: hehe, yeah.. I guess it might be overheating (currently in Malaysia, 30-40 degrees celcius), or shortcircuts from the humidty perhaps ;)
[09:51] <acuster> xipietotec, yes, this is after monkeying around and not finding my key :-)
[09:51] <Hacking_Defined> can some one help me ?
[09:51] <gordonjcp> catxk: it's the first thing I'd check
[09:51] <catxk> but the laptop doesn't feel hot at all
[09:51] <gordonjcp> ah, it's a laptop?
[09:51] <xipietotec> acuster: is it not a regular keyboard key?
[09:51] <yell0w> !ask | Hacking_Defined
[09:51] <ubotu> Hacking_Defined: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:52] <catxk> gordonjcp: yepp... isn't there some memtest thing included in this linux thingy? just to rule it out
[09:52] <acuster> xipietotec, it's a us thinkpad I assume it's somewhat regular
[09:52] <Hacking_Defined> can some one help me ?
[09:52] <gordonjcp> catxk: yeah, I'd suspect that faulty memory would cause a hard lockup but it's worth a try
[09:52] <ndlovu> how can I specify the network gateway from the terminal?
[09:52] <gordonjcp> !ask | Hacking_Defined
[09:52] <ubotu> Hacking_Defined: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:53] <catxk> gordonjcp: you know how to run it?
[09:53] <xipietotec> acuster: well, you might look through the keyboard layout preferences, to see if you're using the right keyboard layout.
[09:53] <Rydekull> Okay, so I have a Esprimo E5901 with a Intel 945G and a ADD2-card(DVI). With this im trying to configure Xinerama. I can have dualhead(out of the box) I can direct the output to each of the screens individually. But, seemingly I fail on getting them to work in Xinerama. Anyone got experience with this? As a extra nail in my eye it works in windows.
[09:53] <acuster> xipietotec, thanks
[09:53] <Hacking_Defined> i ude adsl and when i connect to te web after a coppole of minutes i need to diconnect using poff and connect again pon dsl-provider if i want to use mozille or kconquer can some onehelp me ?
[09:54] <xipietotec> no problem =)
[09:54] <gordonjcp> catxk: reboot, bring up the grub menu and select memtest86
[09:54] <mdeboer> hello
[09:55] <horde> every time I restart Kubuntu I have to manually reconnect to my network.  Anyone know how to make it automatic?
[09:55] <Hacking_Defined> any one know wat the problem is ?
[09:55] <Hacking_Defined> ya
[09:55] <tester> gordonjcp: afcourse the ext2 is mounted, but that filesystem is empty im 100% sure.. it seems that is OS is compressed and loaded into the memory while booting..
[09:56] <tester> gordonjcp: do you know a way to open that compressed filesystem and edit files on it.?
[09:56] <Galga> how to reduce dialogue box / window size ? so that the dialogue boxes don't exceed the resolution lengths
[09:56] <Hacking_Defined> i ude adsl and when i connect to te web after a coppole of minutes i need to diconnect using poff and connect again pon dsl-provider if i want to use mozille or kconquer can some onehelp me ?
[09:56] <gordonjcp> tester: it's not really something I've played with
[09:56] <lasking> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.    i only have one source
[09:56] <mdeboer> i've got a machine where the ethernet card is used as eth1 instead of eth0. eth0 cannot be brought up... it took me quite a while before i discovered that adding eth1 to /etc/network/interfaces did the trick... any idea what is the origin of this problem? what it eth0 supposed to be?
[09:58] <Hacking_Defined> no one can help me ?
[09:59] <predaeus> mdeboer, that's really weird. Do you have to ethernet cards, like an onboard one and another pci card?
[09:59] <dystopianray> is it illegal to download and use libxine-extracodecs? or is it only the redistribution that is illegal?
[09:59] <predaeus> *two
[09:59] <lasking> too many peopleO:-)
[09:59] <denardo> Hi, all. I'm having trouble with packages left back in apt-get updates.I've done a "sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade" but don't understand what to do with the results.
[10:00] <dougie> what music managers do you guys use?
[10:00] <Peppery> predaeus Please read http://rurl.org/de
[10:00] <dystopianray> dougie: amarok
[10:00] <shinichizio> I've got more dumb questions! I can't make my speakers emit any sound.
[10:00] <denardo> dougie: amarok
[10:01] <dougie> lol
[10:01] <dystopianray> shinichizio: are they turned on and connected to your computer?
[10:01] <shinichizio> dystopianray: Yes. I've checked. Everything is plugged in and on and all that.
[10:01] <dougie> are you sure they arent connected to your mic or line in port?
[10:01] <dystopianray> shinichizio: check alsamixer to se if anything is muted
[10:02] <dystopianray> shinichizio: what card do you have?
[10:02] <predaeus> Peppery, dougie, I was refering to what music manager I am using. (xmms)
[10:02] <shinichizio> dystopianray: Where can I find; alsamixer, and how to check what card I have?
[10:02] <mEck0> I wonder if I can use the "feisty amd64 desktop" in text-mode? I have an ATI-gfx card on the machine I want install it on, and the live-cd doesn't work, I see when Ubuntu boots (the logo...) and then I hear a sound from the computer and it like hangs up... Or must I download the alternate-cd?
[10:02] <dystopianray> shinichizio: you should have alsamixer by default, just run it in a terminal
[10:02] <dystopianray> shinichizio: you should know what card you have, is it onboard or pci card?
[10:03] <shinichizio> Nothing's muted, and it's a pci card.
[10:03] <shinichizio> ...er.
[10:03] <horde> every time I restart Kubuntu I have to manually reconnect to my network.  Anyone know how to make it automatic?
[10:03] <shinichizio> dystopianray: ^^
[10:03] <dystopianray> shinichizio: what card does alsamxier say it is?
[10:04] <shinichizio> Ensoniq AudioPCI
[10:05] <shinichizio> dystopianray: ^^ (Dang it. AGAIN.)
[10:05] <denardo> When ap-get tells me, for example, "Investigating hpijs
[10:05] <denardo> Package hpijs has broken dep on hplip-ppds
[10:05] <denardo>   Considering hplip-ppds 2 as a solution to hpijs 1
[10:05] <denardo>   Holding Back hpijs rather than change hplip-ppds
[10:05] <denardo> "what should I do to fix it?
[10:05] <denardo> (hmm, that pasted oddly)
[10:05] <Hacking_Defined> what antivirus do u use?
[10:05] <dystopianray> shinichizio: does it have any other wierd toggles or things in alsamixer? my audigy has some toggle that causes the output to be muted
[10:06] <dystopianray> Hacking_Defined: you want to scan windows partitions?
[10:06] <shinichizio> dystopianray: The whole damn thing looks weird to me. What exactly am I looking for?
[10:06] <dystopianray> shinichizio: I don't know, i could be any sort of toggle or something
[10:06] <dystopianray> shinichizio: or some other volume control thing
[10:08] <shinichizio> dystopianray: I've fiddled with all the values that I can identify as having something to do with the problem, or just can't identify. It's not helping.
[10:08] <predaeus> shinichizio, you can switch between option screens with alt-tab in alsamixer.
[10:08] <shinichizio> dystopianray: Could it be my speakers are the problem?
[10:08] <dystopianray> shinichizio: yes, it could be
[10:09] <scumbag> how long until feisty release?
[10:09] <dystopianray> scumbag: april 19
[10:09] <shinichizio> dystopianray: I'll go to Ensoniq's website and see if there's anything about non-compatibility. Or driver updates, or something.
[10:10] <dystopianray> shinichizio: that'd be a waste of time, you'll want to look at the ubuntu forums or something
[10:10] <shinichizio> dystopianray: Ah, will do.
[10:10] <scumbag> dystopianray: isnt that something to be exited about?
[10:10] <dystopianray> scumbag: sure, why not
[10:10] <denardo> :scratches his head and wonders if anyone on earth actually understands apt-get
[10:11] <gary> Got a bit of a weird thing here.  I have a new computer (AMD 3400) - which should run at 2ghz, and does on windows.  However, when I do cat /proc/cpuinfo it comes out at 1000mhz.  Is this a known problem, or am I mis-understanding this information?
[10:11] <dystopianray> gary: cpu-frequency scaling, it's normal
[10:11] <dystopianray> gary: runa  cpu intensive program and it'll shoot up to it's proper speed
[10:12] <mirra> whats the easiest way to transfer a file between 2 machines on a private network in the command line (no ftp) ????
[10:12] <dystopianray> mirra: scp
[10:13] <gary> I ran dystopianray OO.org but the cpu remained the same speed as I was cat'ing it
[10:13] <renedox> can someone help me get my computer up and running again?
[10:13] <renedox> won't read the /root/ filesystem
[10:13] <dystopianray> gary: OO.org is a word processor.. it isn't cpu intensive :S
[10:13] <renedox> whatever that means :|
[10:13] <gary> lol dystopianray on my old computer it was - believe me!
[10:14] <dystopianray> gary: try $ cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null
[10:15] <gary> haha - it worked
[10:15] <gary> thanks!
[10:15] <denardo> Grr, the instructions I have just remove the packages, rather than fixing them.
[10:15] <shinichizio> dystopianray: I'll just bring my issues to the forums, since it's very general and I've no idea where to start. Thanks for your help, though!
[10:15] <shinichizio> Also general thanks to whoever else helped me and I forgot their name. orz
[10:15] <dystopianray> gary: the frequency scaling saves power and keeps your cpu cooler
[10:16] <dystopianray> shinichizio: first, try your speakers on something else, to see if they work
[10:16] <elita> just installed ubuntu for the first tiem
[10:16] <elita> time
[10:16] <dystopianray> shinichizio: then run alsamixer, have a suond file playing or something and toggle everything in alsamixer and put all controls to maximum
[10:16] <Tom_Kun> anyone here got some advice regarding atmel (cnet 611) wlan usb cars on ubuntu?
[10:16] <dystopianray> shinichizio: also, make sure you have your speakers plugged into the actual pci card, and not into some onboard audio output or something
[10:17] <shinichizio> dystopianray: They worked a month ago, and nothing severe has happened to them. And, I did that already. I fiddled with everything in alsamixer while blasting loud, loud music. And I'm SURE it's the right dang plugin.
[10:17] <renedox> anyone...? please...?
[10:17] <elita> My computer has a new ATi X800GTO AGP card but for some reason Ubuntu won't let me use it beyond 1024x768 - I even tried manually editing xorg.conf to add in 1280x1024 for both 15 and 24 bit modes :(
[10:17] <yell0w> renedox, what's your problem ?
[10:17] <cens0red> hi. I've decided to learn a bit of C from a web tut. What's a good IDE in the ubuntu packages?
[10:17] <elita> cens0red: vim ?
[10:17] <elita> cens0red: or gvim
[10:17] <dystopianray> cens0red: vim
[10:17] <renedox> yell0w: when I start up my computer, goes to the screen with the progress bar
[10:17] <cens0red> hmmm. thanks.
[10:18] <renedox> yell0w: gets to the second one where it reads the root filesystem
[10:18] <renedox> yell0w: then goes to terminal screen and says it can't be read or something
[10:18] <denardo> Can anyone help me understand how to deal with kept-back packages in an apt-get upgrade?
[10:18] <yell0w> renedox, what can't be read ?
[10:18] <renedox> yell0w: the /root/ folder
[10:19] <dystopianray> elita: try running this and select the resolutions you want and the driver you want to use: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:19] <elita> So... any way I can make my ATi X800GTO work better in ubuntu? It'll be rather unfortunate if I was stuck in pathetic 1024x768 all my life :)
[10:19] <yell0w> eek
[10:19] <elita> dystopianray: tx.
[10:19] <yell0w> renedox, maybe your system is hosed, i don't know
[10:19] <renedox> yell0w: any way of restoring the system?
[10:19] <renedox> without formatting or losing my files?
[10:20] <yell0w> renedox, what did you do to make it like that ?
[10:20] <renedox> I restarted the computer
[10:20] <elita> dystopianray: restarting X now... bbl - bye :)
[10:20] <yell0w> renedox,  it was running fine before the restart ?
[10:21] <renedox> yell0w: no, it was very laggy, so I took the windows approach
[10:21] <renedox> ;)
[10:21] <yell0w> renedox, what i meant is, what changes did you make to the system since the last successful boot up ?
[10:21] <didi_> http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[10:21] <yell0w> renedox, uhhhmmm did you hit it with a hammer or something ?
[10:21] <yell0w> @_@
[10:22] <renedox> yell0w: lol no
[10:22] <renedox> yell0w: updated firefox
[10:22] <yell0w> renedox, that's usually the windows approach
[10:22] <renedox> lol
[10:22] <denardo> Hmm, apt-get's telling me "Try to Re-Instate" various things, but I'm not clear what "Re-Instate" would mean in this context.
[10:22] <didi_> has anyone used that http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ ? I would like an offline rep on dvds everyplace I go
[10:22] <yell0w> renedox, are you sure firefox is the only thing? it's got to be something that you did before that make it do that
[10:23] <yell0w> renedox, from the last time it boot up ok, there shouldn't be any problem again if you don't make any change
[10:23] <wyndblade> is scsi kernel support still needed for sata?
[10:24] <dystopianray> wyndblade: yes
[10:24] <renedox> yell0w: probably updated a few other programs as well
[10:24] <renedox> been 13 days since I last rebooted
[10:24] <wyndblade> and I am using x86, on an amd64, was using k7 a wise choice?
[10:24] <yell0w> renedox, well then the field is open for what went wrong
[10:24] <renedox> nothing that would change the system
[10:25] <elita> dystopianray: seems to have worked - many kindly thanks.
[10:25] <dystopianray> wyndblade: athlon64s are k8
[10:25] <renedox> no kernel updates or anything
[10:25] <yell0w> renedox, you should've kept a personal log of what happens to your system
[10:25] <cafuego_> wyndblade: Soon it will also be needed for PATA
[10:25] <wyndblade> will it screw with the x86 install set to k8?
[10:25] <dystopianray> elita: if you diff the new config and the old config you'll see what change made it work, probably hsync and vrefresh settings
[10:25] <dystopianray> wyndblade: only if you don't have a k8 cpu
[10:25] <cafuego_> wyndblade: The k7 kernel will be fine on your amd64.
[10:25] <wyndblade> it's a k8
[10:25] <yell0w> renedox, and why did you restart, it's linux for christ's sake
[10:25] <wyndblade> amd64 turion mk-36
[10:26] <cafuego_> wyndblade: if you're configuring the kernel source, k8 is fine.
[10:26] <B|atch> Hi, ppl. This is my first time using linux and i have a problem with my wireless card. Can anybody help me?
[10:26] <wyndblade> got brave to do my own kernel
[10:26] <wyndblade> did it in gentoo, said why not ubuntu
[10:26] <renedox> yell0w: because it was getting very laggy
[10:26] <dystopianray> wyndblade: you should start with ubuntu's config and modify it how you like
[10:26] <didi_> has anyone used that http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ ? I would like an offline rep on dvds everyplace I go
[10:26] <wyndblade> dystopianray, I did :P
[10:26] <dystopianray> B|atch: what wireless chipset does the card have?
[10:26] <renedox> yell0w: and for some reason, the same program is listed multiple times when I do a ps-A
[10:26] <cafuego_> dystopianray: Nah, no reason if you know what you're doing.
[10:27] <wyndblade> dystopianray, took me almost 45 mins to trim the bloat
[10:27] <yell0w> yell0w, shuting uneeded proccess would help
[10:27] <didi_> ok cya l8r
[10:27] <bcochofel> I'm using libnss_ldap and I'm getting several error messages. This bug is described here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-ldap/+bug/51315
[10:27] <cafuego_> wyndblade: One thing to do though is to use `make-kpkg' from 'kernel-package' to build the actual kernel.
[10:27] <yell0w> renedox, just kill them
[10:27] <B|atch> dystopianray: im using a dlink dwl-520+
[10:27] <bcochofel> Can anyone tell me if there's a fix for this?
[10:27] <wyndblade> cafuego, rgr
[10:27] <renedox> yell0w: yeah, they just start back up again :|
[10:27] <dystopianray> B|atch: is that broadcom? atheros? ralink??
[10:27] <yell0w> renedox, not the gnome-... processs
[10:28] <yell0w> renedox, for gnome you can hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart gnome
[10:28] <renedox> yell0w: yeah, I know
[10:28] <B|atch> dystopianray: thing is that linux recognizes my wireless card and im allow to enter my router's congif page but i cannot get to any website
[10:28] <renedox> yell0w: I didn're restart the gnome process
[10:28] <dystopianray> B|atch: what router do you have?
[10:28] <kas84> hi
[10:28] <B|atch> dystopianray: not sure whether its broadcom. how do i check?
[10:28] <dystopianray> B|atch: if the wifi works then it doesn't matter, your problem is elsewhere
[10:29] <dystopianray> B|atch: what is the model of your router?
[10:29] <kas84> i can't get my wireless card working, can anybody help me?
[10:29] <dystopianray> B|atch: can you try pinging google.com or something?
[10:29] <renedox> yell0w: hang on, I'm going to log in on the windows computer and restart this one
[10:29] <kas84> it's a intel one
[10:29] <renedox> yell0w: and I'll tell you what it says
[10:29] <B|atch> dystopianray: im using a linksys wrt54g
[10:29] <dystopianray> kas84: 2100, 2200 or 3945?
[10:29] <dystopianray> B|atch: default firmware or custom firmware?
[10:30] <dougie> does Amarok not play mp3's?
[10:30] <dystopianray> dougie: you need libxine-extracodecs
[10:30] <kas84> i don't know, it supports abg
[10:30] <kas84> it's a core duo intel processor
[10:30] <dystopianray> kas84: run lspci and it'll tell you what model it is
[10:30] <B|atch> dystopianray: default, im using xp with my wireless to connect online
[10:30] <dystopianray> B|atch: you're in xp right now?
[10:31] <B|atch> dystopianray: yup
[10:31] <dystopianray> B|atch: are you using dhcp on your network?
[10:31] <kas84> it's 3945
[10:31] <dystopianray> kas84: what ubuntu release are you using?
[10:31] <kas84> edgy eft
[10:31] <B|atch> dystopianray: nope, i off the dhcp server on my router. im using static ip set by OS
[10:31] <dystopianray> B|atch: ok, then your problem lies in your static configuration
[10:32] <dystopianray> B|atch: did you set a route in linux? and did you put your dns server in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[10:32] <wyndblade> okay I used envy to install my nvidia drivers, when I finish this kernel config, will I have to re-install them?
[10:32] <fotoflo__> why would anyone waste an nvidia video card on a ubuntu machine?
[10:33] <renedox> damn...
[10:33] <dystopianray> fotoflo__: how is it a waste?
[10:33] <renedox> where'd he go...
[10:33] <wyndblade> fotoflo__, depends on what you conside waste
[10:34] <B|atch> dystopianray: if you mean set a route in linux as in setting my own static ip i did but what dns server in resolv.conf?
[10:34] <fotoflo__> well, do you play hard core 3d games on your ubuntu box?
[10:34] <dystopianray> B|atch: your router is your dns server
[10:34] <kas84> B|atch: I know some time ago I edited my interafaces file and type in just one line auto something and it worked but I can't remember what was it now
[10:34] <fotoflo__> or do 3d modeling?
[10:34] <dystopianray> B|atch: you need to set a default gateway in a static configuration, which is your router
[10:34] <wyndblade> nope only a 6150go
[10:34] <wyndblade> but I use beryl etc.
[10:34] <dystopianray> fotoflo__: lots of games work in wine, and doom3, quake4, unreal tournament 200x, and others have native ports
[10:34] <B|atch> dystopianray: i don't quite get you
[10:35] <fotoflo__> dystopianray, then, if you played them, that would be a good reason
[10:35] <fotoflo__> whats beryl?
[10:35] <dystopianray> B|atch: how did you setup the static configuration?
[10:35] <wyndblade> !beryl
[10:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:36] <fotoflo__> ok, that makes sense
[10:36] <B|atch> dystopianray: mean in my router? i just disable my dhcp server
[10:36] <dystopianray> B|atch: in /etc/resolv.conf you should have a line that is like 'nameserver 192.168.1.1', replacing that ip with your router's ip
[10:36] <dystopianray> B|atch: no, on your computer
[10:36] <jamie> !gnome
[10:36] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[10:37] <dystopianray> B|atch: is there a specific reason to use static configuration over dhcp?
[10:37] <B|atch> dystopianray: ok i did not do that. so i have to access /etc/resolv.conf and change it?
[10:37] <dystopianray> B|atch: yes, or you will get no dns
[10:37] <B|atch> dystopianray: my router ip is 192.168.1.1 anyway. the reason is that i wanted to open certain ports
[10:38] <dystopianray> B|atch: your linksys router should allow static dhcp addresses
[10:38] <fotoflo__> actully, i run 9 desktops, and they are a little slow, when scrolling in firefox, for example... not enough ram? or not enough ram on video-card (i use onboard video on an intel 845 mb)
[10:38] <dystopianray> B|atch: just configure it to always give your computer the same address
[10:39] <B|atch> dystopianray: nope. it just allow you to disable dhcp server and i have to config my comp to give me the same ip
[10:39] <dystopianray> B|atch: ah, you're right, only third party firmware allows it
[10:39] <dystopianray> B|atch: what steps did you take to configure the static connection in ubuntu?
[10:39] <Norbids_klons> lv
[10:40] <dystopianray> B|atch: did you set the default gateway?
[10:41] <B|atch> dystopianray: i went to System>Administration>Networking, there is a wireless option there and so i just click property and fill in the required info like static ip, default gateway, subnet mask....
[10:41] <dystopianray> B|atch: ok, that should be fine then, as long as those settings are correct, you're likely just missing the dns server entry in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:42] <B|atch> dystopianray: thanks, you're a great saver. gonna try it now. BRB
[10:43] <tackat_>  If somebody would like to try Marble: http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble14.png here are packages (they work for Edgy): http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble_0.2-3_i386.deb http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble-data_0.2-3_all.deb
[10:43] <tackat_> Doesn't need OpenGL and ist still under development :)
[10:44] <dystopianray> tackat_: google earth ripoff?
[10:44] <tackat_> dystopianray: the tiny son ;-)
[10:44] <tackat_> dystopianray: it doesn't do automatical tile download yet - that will be added within the next 2-3 weeks
[10:45] <dystopianray> tackat_: so it still looks the same when you zoom in?
[10:45] <lasking> i can't use wine to play games if i install nvidia-glx    is this right?
[10:45] <dystopianray> tackat_: where does the map data come from?
[10:45] <dystopianray> lasking: um.. where did you hear such nonsense?
[10:46] <lasking> someone said  if install glx  can't use opengl
[10:46] <dystopianray> :S
[10:46] <quux> Hey all. Quick question. So I do an apt-get upgrade, and APT tells me the names of several packages it's going to update. But: is there an easy way to find out *why* these patches were deemed necessary?
[10:46] <dystopianray> lasking: you need nvidia-glx for 3d acceleration on nvidia cards
[10:47] <lasking> but  my cedega said opengl not passed
[10:47] <dystopianray> quux: aptitude can show changelogs, i think
[10:47] <dystopianray> lasking: are you using the 'nvidia' driver?
[10:47] <tackat_> dystopianray: it will zoom in and show more details but currently it's limited to 6MB of data :) Have a look here http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/551
[10:47] <quux> dystopianray: yes there's a changes tab. Comes up blank for all of them.
[10:47] <ubuntu> Hey all, just wondering why I can only select 800x600 as my resolution when I boot into a LIVE CD, I am on one now and it only shows available resolutions as 800x600 and 640x80
[10:47] <lasking> apt-get nvidia-glx
[10:47] <ubuntu> *600x480
[10:47] <dystopianray> quux: you can look at the changelogs on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:47] <lasking> my 3D passed  but my opengl not passed
[10:48] <quux> dystopianray: thanks, I'll check it out
[10:48] <dystopianray> lasking: did you modify xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver? do you get the nvidia logo appearing when X starts?
[10:48] <dystopianray> tackat_: where does the map data come from?
[10:48] <lasking> yes i see logo
[10:48] <tackat_> dystopianray: NASA, public domain
[10:49] <lasking> but opengl is not passed
[10:49] <SplashTK> Hey all, just wondering why I can only select 800x600 as my resolution when I boot into a LIVE CD, I am on one now and it only shows available resolutions as 800x600 and 600x480, sorry for the repost :(
[10:49] <dystopianray> tackat_: oh, the same data as world wind?
[10:49] <dystopianray> SplashTK: what video card do you have?
[10:50] <SplashTK> dystopianray,  ATI Radeon 9250
[10:50] <dystopianray> lasking: it's possible that cedega is just too crap to detect it properly
[10:50] <SplashTK> dystopianray, I am assuming it's a driver issue?
[10:50] <dystopianray> SplashTK: most likely
[10:50] <dystopianray> SplashTK: what about after you install? is it still the same?
[10:50] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Cool, can I find one somewhere do you think?
[10:51] <dystopianray> SplashTK: I wouldn't bother for just the livecd
[10:51] <lasking> but wine can not use opengl too
[10:51] <SplashTK> dystopianray, I haven't tried installing yet, I wanted to just use the LIVE CD for the moment if that's possible.
[10:51] <tackat_> dystopianray: once the tiledownload is complete it will use basically the same data as worldwind. Yes
[10:52] <mdeboer> oops, got called away for an emergency... is there a log of this IRC somewhere?
[10:52] <dystopianray> SplashTK: try adding some modes to xorg.conf and restarting X
[10:52] <SplashTK> k
[10:52] <lasking> nvidia-config  said erro  but i can see nvidia logo
[10:52] <dystopianray> SplashTK: i think you might need to set a password for hte default first though
[10:52] <dystopianray> lasking: does glxgears work?
[10:53] <dystopianray> SplashTK: a password for hte default user account i mean
[10:53] <lasking> glxgears dispaly right
[10:54] <SplashTK> umm :P
[10:54] <dystopianray> lasking: what does this show $ glxinfo | grep direct
[10:54] <SplashTK> dystopianray, I'm not that Linux savy ;)
[10:54] <dystopianray> SplashTK: open a terminal and type 'passwd'
[10:54] <dystopianray> and just set it to anything
[10:54] <lasking> No
[10:55] <lasking> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:55] <dystopianray> lasking: ok, so you don't have 3d acceleration
[10:55] <SplashTK> dystopianray, k :)
[10:55] <lasking> but my beryl can work
[10:55] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Done that
[10:56] <tackat_> huh, if I hear about all those problems wrt OpenGL then I know why Marble doesn't use it ;-)
[10:56] <dystopianray> SplashTK: so add a mode to xorg.conf and restart X
[10:56] <lasking> what should i do now?
[10:56] <SplashTK> dystopianray, a mode...like?
[10:56] <dystopianray> lasking: you'll need to configure ubuntu to use the nvidia glx, instead of mesa, I don't recall the command though
[10:56] <dystopianray> SplashTK: like "1024x768" or something, whatever resolution you want to use
[10:57] <lasking> thank you  let me try it
[10:57] <SplashTK> dystopianray,  oh okay, thanks :)
[10:57] <lasking> dystopianray is a good guy8-)
[10:57] <dystopianray> SplashTK: in the "screen" section it has lists of modes to use for various colour depths
[10:58] <SplashTK> dystopianray, , sorry but how do open xorg.conf
[10:58] <dystopianray> SplashTK: open it with your favourite editor, as root, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:59] <CheshireViking> SplashTK, in terminal sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:01] <derrin> Hi!  I'm a brand new ubuntu user.   Is it true that I do not need anti-virus?
[11:01] <MasseR> derrin: It is recommended to install anti-virus, but not as much as with windows
[11:02] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Hmm, there are already alot of res' there.
[11:02] <dystopianray> SplashTK: reses higher than 800x600?
[11:02] <SplashTK> dystopianray,  Yes.
[11:02] <Daviey> derrin, there are few linux viri;  but mainly ClamAV protects against the windows viruses
[11:02] <dystopianray> SplashTK: it's probably the hsync and vrefresh that are too small then
[11:02] <SplashTK> dystopianray,  OH okay.
[11:02] <dystopianray> SplashTK: do you have a lcd or crt monitor?
[11:02] <SplashTK> dystopianray, LCD
[11:02] <derrin> ClamAV... thank you!
[11:02] <wyndblade> !kernel
[11:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:03] <dystopianray> SplashTK: for 1280x1024 I have 'HorizSync       28-64' and 'VertRefresh     43-60'
[11:03] <derrin> Thank you so much!  What about Firewall, Anti-spam/phishing??
[11:03] <dystopianray> SplashTK: this is in the 'Monitor' section
[11:03] <xipietotec> derrin: firewall is built into the OS, iptables
[11:03] <xipietotec> anti-spam/fishing is part of firefox
[11:03] <dystopianray> derrin: firefox has a built in phishing detection thing
[11:04] <dystopianray> derrin: spam filtering should be possible with any email client
[11:04] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Okay
[11:04] <xipietotec> anti-spyware and anti-virus software are not necessary
[11:04] <dystopianray> derrin: windows is basically the only operating system that suffers from virus/malware issues
[11:04] <Daviey> derrin, iptables is hard to configure.  I would recommend 'firestarter' which is similar in usage to windows firewall
[11:05] <MasseR> (Which is only a gui to iptables though)
[11:05] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Under Monitor section I have only identifier and Option
[11:05] <SplashTK> Nothing else
[11:06] <dystopianray> SplashTK: add a horizsync and vertrefresh settings like mine
[11:06] <SplashTK> dystopianray, k
[11:06] <tony_edward> I am trying to connect to a postgres database from a remote machine and I dont know if the tcp/ip connect option is set with the startup of postgres. How do I find out?
[11:07] <SplashTK> dystopianray,  Done :)
[11:07] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Save and restart X?
[11:07] <subtilis> My panel is broken
[11:07] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Also, how do I restart X ;) lol, sorry for being so noob:P
[11:08] <lasking> My panel is broken too
[11:08] <dystopianray> SplashTK: logout and hit ctrl-alt-backspace, I don't know if X starts up automatically on the livecd, somebody should confirm this...
[11:08] <SplashTK> dystopianray,  Okay, well, thankyou very much for your help :)
[11:08] <lasking> i remove a soft  my panel is broken
[11:08] <subtilis> killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel does not work; deleting .gnome2 directory neither
[11:08] <subtilis> ???
[11:08] <dystopianray> SplashTK: I think that if it doesn't start up automatically, $ /etc/init.d/gdm start or $ /etc/init.d/kdm start will bring it up
[11:09] <SplashTK> Okay cool, thanks you :)
[11:09] <SplashTK> I'll try now
[11:09] <derrin> I am so glad I found you all.  Thanks a million for the advice!
[11:12] <mll> Can anyone help me with a shutdown problem?
[11:12] <dystopianray> mll: what is the problem?
[11:12] <mll> the buttons dont work at all
[11:13] <mll> in a shell i can shut it down with "sudo shutdoen - now"
[11:13] <bcochofel> Where can I change my LANG var? .bashrc?
[11:13] <mll> hmmm.. "sudo shutdown -h now" I meant
[11:13] <dystopianray> bcochofel: you can set it globally in /etc/default/locale
[11:14] <bcochofel> dystopianray: where can I get a list of valid params?
[11:14] <lasking> how can i do  could not see these meassage
[11:14] <lasking> subtilis left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection).
[11:14] <lasking> kkerwin left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection
[11:14] <b3rx> when will ubuntu go beta?
[11:14] <dystopianray> bcochofel: locale -a
[11:14] <dystopianray> b3rx: friday
[11:15] <dystopianray> bcochofel: locale -a shows the utf8 bit as lowercase, but in LANG, make it uppercase and with a dash, like in /etc/default/locale
[11:15] <bcochofel> dystopianray: Sorry, how can I add values? I don't have iso8859-1 options
[11:15] <b3rx> dystopianray: may i ask what time zone since its already friday in my timezone
[11:15] <dystopianray> bcochofel: locale-gen
[11:16] <dystopianray> b3rx: I have no idea, it's nearly saturday in my timezone
[11:16] <ferronica> how to mount XP partition in ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[11:16] <bcochofel> dystopianray: has root?
[11:16] <dystopianray> bcochofel: yes
[11:16] <b3rx> lol thanks anyway...
[11:16] <dystopianray> ferronica: mount -t ntfs /dev/blah /foo
[11:17] <mll> I installed yesterday and ran the update (143 packages) and after that the pc whont respond to gnome's "shutdown" when I press the buttons..
[11:17] <dystopianray> mll: are you running edgy?
[11:18] <mll> hmmm..
[11:18] <mll> *checking*
[11:18] <ferronica> dystopianray: only root can mount
[11:18] <ikonia_> mll try using the reboot command, then aftera reboot trying the shutdown again - sometimes with a kernel update pending some commands get borked - more so things like gnomes interface to the OS
[11:18] <dystopianray> ferronica: so, mount as root
[11:18] <ikonia_> use sudo
[11:18] <dystopianray> ferronica: or put an entry in /etc/fstab
[11:18] <mll> down loaded - "Ubuntu 6.10 - Supported to 2008  "
[11:18] <bcochofel> dystopianray: one more thing, my system wide is different from my user, do you know where can a user change this default?
[11:19] <mll> ikonia: thanks, ill try that one
[11:19] <ikonia_> mll thats egdy - try a reboot then try the shutdown buttons
[11:19] <gary> Can anyone recommend a good application for testing regular expressions.  I would like to type in some sample text, and make a regexpression and then the matches to be output, or the results highlighted.  I've had a look but none seem to do this - or won't work!
[11:19] <dystopianray> bcochofel: probably in .bash_profile or .bashrc or something, I'm not sure
[11:19] <ikonia_> mll may not be the problem, but easier to work with once you've "applied" all the udpates
[11:19] <mll> ikonia: rgr, thanks
[11:19] <ferronica> dystopianray: what is NTFS-3G???
[11:19] <dystopianray> !ntfs-3g
[11:19] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:20] <bcochofel> dystopianray: neither one of them has LANG changed, can kcontrol change this and set it to env?
[11:21] <dystopianray> bcochofel: no idea
[11:21] <valehru_> Hey guys, what is the best application to rip CD's to mp3?
[11:21] <dystopianray> valehru_: i like kaudiocreator
[11:21] <valehru_> dystopianray, is that a kde app?  im running gnome
[11:21] <cod> is there any way to re-configure the sound system in the way that is done upon installing ubuntu?  I've got a mature install, but it changed sound cards.  I got major problems... but a new install on separate partition has sound working fine... go figure!!
[11:22] <dystopianray> valehru_: kde apps run in gnome
[11:22] <amAMD> sound juicer
[11:22] <b3rx> how often does the repos get updated? i have found some new release of a certain program and was wondering when would it be available in the repos.
[11:22] <valehru_> amAMD, sound juicer doesnt rip to mp3 does it?  or am i looking at something extra to be installed?
[11:22] <dystopianray> b3rx: application versions only change for new ubuntu releases, only security fixes go into the repos
[11:23] <amAMD> per default ogg
[11:23] <b3rx> thanks mate!
[11:23] <valehru_> dystopianray, i don't want any kde apps....there is a reason im running gnome
[11:23] <valehru_> amAMD, thx...will look into mp3 support
[11:23] <cod> anybody?
[11:23] <amAMD> profiles offers mp3
[11:23] <dystopianray> valehru_: you'll deny the use of a piece of software just becuase of some stupid desktop environment preference?
[11:23] <cod> :(
[11:24] <valehru_> dystopianray, when disk space is very limited I do and kde apps usually need a lot more packages to be installed...
[11:24] <mll> ikonia: worked like a charm!!
[11:24] <mll> thanks!
[11:24] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, to test if a joystick device is working, you'd do a 'od -xw8 /dev/input/js0', right? the output values are supposed to change while you're pessing buttons, right?
[11:25] <ikonia_> mll no problem, its quite commen that some updates mess up the interface before a reboot
[11:26] <Red_Tide> hey anyone have a problem with ubuntu failing to load x with ati cards?
[11:26] <amAMD> @valehru lame should be installed
[11:26] <ikonia_> Red_Tide thats quite common
[11:26] <CoRnJuLiOx> i'm trying to get a PSX pad (via PSX-USB converter) working under ubuntu 6.06 and its not going so well. it started working one day and i don't know why, and it stopped working when i unplugged it and plugged it back in.
[11:26] <ikonia_> !ati >red_tide
[11:26] <ikonia_> Red_Tide check your PM's
[11:26] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx possibly hung the usb port for that device
[11:27] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia_: any way to check?
[11:27] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx on replugging it back in - it may have assumed a difference device address
[11:27] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx check your sys log for starters
[11:27] <Red_Tide> !ati?
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <SplashTK> dystopianray, It didn't work :( :P
[11:27] <Dexter> what it the default ubuntu  server root password ??? :(
[11:27] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia_: is there anything i should keep my eyes out for?
[11:28] <dystopianray> SplashTK: I don't know then, ati is fairly crap on linux
[11:28] <dystopianray> Dexter: there is no root password
[11:28] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx errr usb and devices and playstation for example
[11:28] <dystopianray> Dexter: use sudo
[11:29] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Mmm, yes, it said something like "VerSync needs list of numbers bla bla"
[11:29] <Dexter> aha
[11:29] <dystopianray> SplashTK: well just use the livecd as is for now, it's not really supposed to be fiddled with, it's only temporary
[11:29] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia_:nothing out of the ordinary. i see the device being recognized (i just restarted) as a USB HID v1.00 Joystick
[11:30] <Red_Tide> so I take it I need to install the ati proprietary binary but can that do beryl?
[11:30] <SplashTK> kk
[11:30] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx ok - so you can see its being recognised
[11:30] <CoRnJuLiOx> eys
[11:30] <CoRnJuLiOx> yes*
[11:30] <ikonia_> Red_Tide ubotu sent you apm on the subject
[11:31] <dystopianray> Red_Tide: the binary driver can't do aiglx, you'll need to use xgl
[11:31] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia_: but whenever i try to configure in padjoy, it looks like it gets the device file opened, but doesn't receive input
[11:31] <kraut> moin
[11:31] <CoRnJuLiOx> it returns a "no usable input received" error in the terminal
[11:31] <ikonia_> the device id has probably changed
[11:31] <CoRnJuLiOx> you know, this actually worked yesterday morning.
[11:31] <ikonia_> I do know, you told me
[11:31] <Dexter> it worked
[11:31] <CoRnJuLiOx> ironically, it happened just as i was posting to ubuntuforums
[11:32] <CoRnJuLiOx> i have no clue as to what i did. maybe it was loading xpad?
[11:32] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx I've given you pointers on where and what to look for. What device ID is it currently using ?
[11:32] <CoRnJuLiOx> is there any way to tell if the device changed addresses?
[11:33] <ferronica> dystopianray: how to login as root to mount Window HDD???
[11:33] <CoRnJuLiOx> the device address, is it this -->... [HID 0925:8866]  ...
[11:34] <dystopianray> ferronica: use sudo
[11:34] <ikonia_> ferronica you've been told 6 times now
[11:34] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia_: is it this? [HID 0925:8866] 
[11:34] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx no I mean what unix device file is it using
[11:34] <Dexter> 10x :) dystopianray
[11:34] <Dexter> nick dexterddit
[11:35] <Dexter> ups :)
[11:35] <Dexter> sry
[11:35] <CoRnJuLiOx> iknoia_: /dev/input/js0
 iknoia_: /dev/input/js0
[11:35] <ikonia_> oops
[11:35] <rasputnik> hi all
[11:35] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx ok - so 1.) check that file exists, and the status of it, 2.) Check the sylog to see if it still believes its using that device 3.) check for other jsX devices to see if any new ones have been created
[11:35] <rasputnik> last time i was in here, someone mentioned a version of the edgy cd that supported LVM installs. anyone know where it is?
[11:36] <ikonia_> rasputnik I think either the server or alternate cd supports it
[11:36] <rasputnik> ikonia_: thanks. does server still have gnome?
[11:36] <ikonia_> rasputnik not by default but you can install it from the repo
[11:37] <rasputnik> ok, maybe alternate is a better bet (we're converting an existing debian install which is lvm based). where to is that?
[11:37] <ikonia_> rasputnik its on the ubuntu site......along with every other ubuntu image
[11:37] <ikonia_> rasputnik I'm not sure if its the alternate OR the server cd that supports LVMthough
[11:38] <rasputnik> ikonia_: I'll figure it out (will dummy-run it in vmware first)
[11:38] <rasputnik> thanks
[11:38] <ikonia_> rasputnik ok
[11:42] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia_: i did #1 using 'cat /dev/input/js0' and 'od -xw8 /dev/input/js0' and getting back random characters (values in the case of od), the syslog doesn't seem to report anything other then finding the device, the last thing listed in dmesg is about a hdd error and in the system log its from gconf, and  and i don't see any other jsX devices in the /dev/input folder.
[11:43] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx looks like the pad configuration software is having an issue then
[11:43] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx try rebooting (lame I know)
[11:43] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia_: i just came from a reboot
[11:43] <CoRnJuLiOx> would trying a different port help?
[11:43] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx no idea, never used the PS2 pads
[11:43] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx you could try it
[11:44] <g0su> buenos dias
[11:44] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia_: its actually a PS1
[11:44] <CoRnJuLiOx> pad
[11:44] <ikonia_> CoRnJuLiOx ok- never tried a PS1 pad
[11:44] <CoRnJuLiOx> they rock :-O i just wish it worked.
[11:45] <SoftIce> root@fs:/etc/squid# hdparm /dev/hdc
[11:45] <SoftIce>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[11:45] <SoftIce>  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[11:45] <SoftIce> hmm, why is my drive using 16 bit support?
[11:45] <ikonia_> SoftIce is hdc not your cdrom ?
[11:46] <SoftIce> good question
[11:46] <SoftIce> root@fs:/etc/squid# hdparm /dev/hda
[11:46] <SoftIce>  multcount    =  0 (off)
[11:46] <SoftIce>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[11:46] <ikonia_> SoftIce we saw you the first time
[11:46] <SoftIce> everything is using 16 bit :(
[11:46] <SoftIce> no this is hda
[11:47] <SoftIce> not hadc
[11:47] <ikonia_> I know
[11:47] <SoftIce> hdc
[11:47] <SoftIce> now if I start to run my pbx on this system, its going to get allot of dropped frames
[11:47] <SoftIce> any idea what the work around is, without manually compiling a kernel ?
[11:48] <ikonia_> why would you re-compile a kernel for that ?
[11:48] <acuster> hey all, is there a way to reset the dkpg selections to only those packages which are currently installed
[11:48] <acuster> ?
[11:49] <SoftIce> well it def doesn't sound like it has support for my controller
[11:49] <xipietotec> I installed blosxom....but how the hell do I *start* it?
[11:49] <z0rz> Someone say my name please - I'm testing irssi
[11:49] <deadeyes> hi all
[11:49] <keegan> zorz
[11:49] <SoftIce> ye, say my name baby
[11:49] <AliceD> Z0rz
[11:49] <ikonia_> SoftIce so recompiling the kernel won't fix that
[11:49] <z0rz> thanks
[11:49] <z0rz> It works.. wahoo
[11:49] <deadeyes> I want to create a gateway with one interface ... I use an alias eth0:0 and eth0
[11:49] <SoftIce> ikonia: why not ?
[11:49] <xipietotec> it doesn't show up in deskbar, and typing blosxom in the terminal says command not found
[11:49] <deadeyes> is this possible?
[11:49] <SoftIce> I would load the correct controllers
[11:49] <ikonia_> SoftIce well recopiling the kernel won't change the support of it
[11:50] <ikonia_> SoftIce if you didn't have support - you wouldn't be able to see it
[11:50] <SoftIce> ikonia: well do you mean, ubuntu uses a generic kernel, not everything is compiled into kernel
[11:50] <shadeofgrey> hey
[11:50] <ikonia_> SoftIce no but all are built as modules
[11:50] <lasking> aha  11m later   feisty upgrade8-)
[11:51] <shadeofgrey> has life gotten any easier for those of us running intel macs looking fior the ease of installation resderved for the pc folks?
[11:51] <novice12> ~$ sudo /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[11:51] <novice12> ldd: /usr/lib/vmware-player/bin/vmware-vmx: No such file or directory
[11:51] <novice12> Making sure services for VMware Server are stopped.
[11:51] <novice12> Stopping VMware services:
[11:51] <novice12>    Virtual machine monitor                                             done
[11:51] <novice12> /etc/init.d/vmware: 766: /usr/lib/vmware-player/net-services.sh: not found
[11:51] <novice12>    Virtual ethernet                                                    done
[11:51] <novice12> Unable to stop services for VMware Server
[11:51] <novice12> Execution aborted.
[11:52] <lasking> virtualbox
[11:52] <rasputnik> deadeyes: isn't that a bit insane? how are you going to route if you only have one cable?
[11:52] <novice12> please... somebody help me.. i do not know what to do with this..
[11:52] <novice12> ~$ sudo /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[11:52] <novice12> ldd: /usr/lib/vmware-player/bin/vmware-vmx: No such file or directory
[11:52] <novice12> Making sure services for VMware Server are stopped.
[11:52] <novice12> Stopping VMware services:
[11:52] <novice12>    Virtual machine monitor                                             done
[11:52] <novice12> /etc/init.d/vmware: 766: /usr/lib/vmware-player/net-services.sh: not found
[11:52] <novice12>    Virtual ethernet                                                    done
[11:52] <novice12> Unable to stop services for VMware Server
[11:52] <novice12> Execution aborted.
[11:53] <rasputnik> novice12: stop that man, we heard you the first time.
[11:53] <dystopianray> novice12: god damn it! use pastebin!
[11:53] <deadeyes> damn, how do I scroll upside in irssi? :s
[11:54] <orange1> someone say my name to test out sounds
[11:54] <rasputnik> deadeyes: page up/down
[11:55] <rasputnik>  /whois orange1
[11:55] <rasputnik> haha
[11:55] <orange1> didnt work
[11:55] <deadeyes> rasputnik: it goes to the router
[11:55] <deadeyes> and I have 2 subnets
[11:55] <sunkiss> hi all
[11:55] <AliceD> orange1
[11:55] <shivraj> can anyone tell me if i create a new irc chat room how to set  a welcome message into it
[11:56] <rasputnik> deadeyes: don't think you can have an alias on a different subnet to the main ip
[11:56] <orange1> interesting - it displays the highlighted msg near startbar
[11:56] <deadeyes> rasputnik: it goes to the router
[11:56] <deadeyes> and I have 2 subnets
[11:56] <rasputnik> orange1: mine didn't start with your name
[11:57] <rasputnik> deadeyes: I heard you the first time. you're still a crazy person.
[11:57] <sunkiss> anyone awailable to answer some questions?
[11:57] <tkp> how do  get mkfs.vfat for Edgy?
[11:57] <tkp> I*
[11:57] <dystopianray> tkp: should come by default
[11:57] <wyndblade> anyone know why I'd get a inotify error on a custom kernel build, and what I need to enable?
[11:57] <deadeyes> rasputnik: it goes to the router
[11:58] <predaeus> !ask | sunkiss
[11:58] <ubotu> sunkiss: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:58] <tkp> dystopianray: I don't have it... I have a load of other fstypes, but not vfat
[11:58] <lasking> whos mac?
[11:58] <deadeyes> oops, sorry, thought I was out of the channel:s
[11:58] <dystopianray> tkp: dosfstools
[11:58] <SoftIce> ikonia: ok what do you suggest, this is the 4th box that has run as 16 bit?
[11:58] <rasputnik> deadeyes: yes. i got it. you can't have eth0:1 on a different subnet to eth0 . it won't work.
[11:58] <SoftIce> yet I can setup freebsd and it works fine
[11:58] <ikonia_> SoftIce not sure, my hard disks are at 32 bit
[11:58] <deadeyes> rasputnik: I already did that I think, at home once
[11:59] <sunkiss> okay, I have downloaded Ubuntu 6.10 but whan I want to boot from the cd it loads 95% and blanks out
[11:59] <tkp> dystopianray: cool.. got it now. Thanks
[11:59] <ikonia_> SoftIce just doing some researhc
[11:59] <deadeyes> rasputnik: well, they have the same subnet
[11:59] <deadeyes> but other network
[11:59] <sunkiss> I have Abit fatality mainboard, 3 gigs intel proc ati x700 vid 1 gis of ram
[11:59] <deadeyes> it's just for testing purposes
[11:59] <sunkiss> looks like a video problem
[11:59] <SusanD> Hi!
[12:00] <rasputnik> deadeyes: now i'm confused - if they have the same subnet mask, they're on the same subnet. if there's only 1 NIC, they're on the same ethernet network.
[12:00] <sunkiss> but dos not give me any options to change the boot settings
[12:00] <rasputnik> s/subnet mask/network address/
[12:00] <CoRnJuLiOx> between evoulution mail and thunderbird mail, which do you prefer?
[12:00] <deadeyes> rasputnik: indeed, they are on the same subnet, and the same physical network
[12:01] <deadeyes> but different network (192.168.192.0 and 172.17.2.0)
[12:01] <rasputnik> deadeyes: that's what I mean by subnet.
[12:03] <tkp> I'm following these instructions (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/) for using Egdy to setup pendrivelinux...
[12:03] <tkp> I'm on step 9
[12:03] <tkp> "Once the download has finished, use the Archive Manager to extract the contents of the zip your USB partition."
[12:03] <deadeyes> have put another cable into it
[12:03] <tkp> what is the "Archive Manager"
[12:03] <mike1o> !sane
[12:03] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[12:03] <jrib> tkp: double click on your zip file, or just right click > extract here
[12:04] <deadeyes> but some guys told me it should be possible... and they really know linux. problem is that they arent here
[12:04] <rasputnik> deadeyes: are we on the same page? you said '. I use an alias eth0:0 and eth0
[12:04] <tkp> oh I see... I'm in a console
[12:04] <mike1o> is it possibile to use a TWAIN scanner?
[12:04] <jrib> tkp: archive manager is a gui program though.  Just use 'unzip' if you are in a shell
[12:04] <tkp> jrib: right
[12:04] <rasputnik> eth0:0 and eth0 are the same nic. how can you plug two cables into the same nic??
[12:04] <pramso> quite
[12:05] <SusanD> can someone help me? I had vista on a partition but then I killed it for ubuntu, but when I restarted to boot ubuntu, the vista boot loader was still there.
[12:05] <deadeyes> rasputnik: well, you said it won't work. but I want to do it quick
[12:05] <jrib> !grub > SusanD    (SusanD, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:05] <deadeyes> rasputnik: no you can't but that does not matter
[12:05] <dystopianray> SusanD: you need to install grub
[12:05] <rasputnik> deadeyes: sorry you've lost me completely
[12:05] <nimo> hiiii
[12:06] <deadeyes> rasputnik: well, at first I tried with one nick (ifconfig eth0:0 172.17.2...)
[12:06] <nimo> i need some help
[12:06] <deadeyes> clear
[12:06] <deadeyes> lol
[12:06] <nimo> i tried to put a spashimage in grub
[12:06] <AliceD> !ask
[12:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:07] <berent> yeah AliceD just ask it common
[12:07] <nimo> with    splashimage=(hdx,y) /boot/grub/myimage.xy
[12:07] <efim> hi
[12:08] <|orange|> how can i tell if i have edgy or fiesty?
[12:08] <nimo> but on the startup the message failed to open .....still impressed..
[12:08] <sunkiss> did not get too much help :(
[12:09] <pramso> I have a problem with s3switch. I want to change my TV-out to PAL and I have tried to type S3switch PAl but it will not work! Why?
[12:10] <berent> |orange| open ur synaptic and see the dependency section of any package
[12:10] <jrib> !version > |orange|    (|orange|, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:10] <berent> !version
[12:10] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:10] <berent> hmmmmmmmmmm ok jrib
[12:11] <pramso> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[12:11] <pramso> Description:    Ubuntu 6.10
[12:11] <pramso> Release:        6.10
[12:11] <pramso> Codename:       edgy
[12:11] <mike1o> !scanner
[12:11] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[12:11] <|orange|> thanks
[12:12] <valehru_> Hey guys, I'm compiling wine from scratch when I go sudo apt-get build-dep wine I get the following error: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/tw.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_multiverse_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)      <<--- tw is the taiwanese server Im connecting to...any clues?
[12:12] <damileo> hello
[12:12] <berent> hello damileo
[12:12] <damileo> i need help with my ubuntu
[12:13] <damileo> i need install Aixgl
[12:13] <sunkiss> :(
[12:13] <sunkiss> bye all
[12:13] <damileo> who help me?
[12:13] <berent> whats aixgl
[12:13] <xopher_> !aiglx | berent
[12:13] <ubotu> berent: AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[12:16] <pramso> does anybody here know anything about s3 graphics savage? I have problem to switch my TV-out to PAL
[12:17] <billy> !upgrade
[12:17] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:17] <robdeman> hi folks. I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server on a server with software raid1. The strange thing i sthat the machine freezes for a short while once every minute or so. So when I enter commands in the terminal for example, the machine freezes just half way before continueing.But also loading a webpage from the apache server shows the same 'freezing' behaviour. Any idea what could cause this?
[12:18] <pramso> -robdeman maybe wrong graphics card
[12:18] <Dean> Hello
[12:19] <Dean> i need some help, anybody here?
[12:19] <robdeman> prasmo: its built into the server. also I have no XServer, its Terminal only.
[12:19] <Amit``> i m having celeron 1 gz and 128 ram , will ubuntu work fine on my system or have to increase my system'z ram ?
[12:19] <Amit``> please help :)
[12:19] <spikeb> Amit``, need more RAM, or use Xubuntu
[12:19] <dystopianray> Amit``: you'd probably want more ram regardless
[12:20] <Dean> i currently use Windows XP, i would like to install Ubuntu without deleting anything, and i would like windows XP to stay active - for now. how can i just -try- ubuntu?
[12:20] <Amit``> okay so any other distributon which will work fine for kind of hardware i m having ?
[12:20] <spikeb> Dean, you can run it off the liveCD, or you can ask the installer to resize your XP partition and install ubuntu on some free space
[12:20] <Dean> please help me..
[12:20] <spikeb> Amit``, Xubuntu will work great :)
[12:21] <Amit``> thankx :0 is it come with fluxbox
[12:21] <wyndblade> Dean, just grab the 6.10 install cd, it won't install unless you tell it to, but you can see what it's like
[12:21] <spikeb> Amit``, comes with XFCE
[12:21] <spikeb> Amit``, you could also try damn small linux :)
[12:22] <dystopianray> damn small linux is horrible, still stuck on linux 2.4
[12:22] <Dean> i saw many videos about it... and i want to try it out, isn't it possible to have both operating systems installed?
[12:22] <spikeb> never used it myself, just know it's small
[12:22] <spikeb> Dean, yes it is
[12:22] <dystopianray> Dean: as already stated, you can resize your XP partition and install ubuntu alongside windows
[12:22] <Dean> how? ><
[12:22] <Dean> (it's not just my comp. my whole family uses it.)
[12:22] <spikeb> Dean, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[12:22] <Dean> thank you.
[12:23] <Pici> Dean: The installer CD will walk you through it
[12:23] <spikeb> you bet! :)
[12:23] <spikeb> brb folks
[12:23] <highvoltage> is ubuntu doing any strange scsi emulation these days? my one laptop has standard IDE disks, but they get mounted as /dev/sda1, sda2, etc
[12:23] <Dean> thank you. i will try.. anyway, i don't have a CD. is it possible to get one in israel? (i know i can just download it somewhere, but a CD would be much better)
[12:23] <Amit``> spikeb thankx :)
[12:24] <Dean> oh
[12:24] <dystopianray> highvoltage: your laptop's ata controller presents pata discs as sata to the OS
[12:24] <Dean> i see i can download it
[12:24] <highvoltage> I also get timeouts on the hard disk every now and then (sorry, I don't have an error mesage atm)
[12:24] <Dean> nevermind hehe
[12:24] <Dean> Cya's for now. thanks alot!
[12:24] <highvoltage> dystopianray: strange, just before upgrading to feisty, Ubuntu detected it as /dev/hda
[12:24] <dystopianray> highvoltage: what do you mean by 'timeout' and you will need an error message for any serious help
[12:24] <highvoltage> dystopianray: I understand
[12:24] <dystopianray> highvoltage: oh! feisty is using the libata drivers, so pata drives now appear as /dev/sd*
[12:24] <dystopianray> highvoltage: if these t
[12:25] <B|atch> dystopianray: thanks im using ubuntu now
[12:25] <highvoltage> dystopianray: ah, ok. that's more helpful
[12:25] <dystopianray> highvoltage: if these 'timeouts' only just started occuring, then it's likely a libata regression
[12:25] <dystopianray> B|atch: thanks for what?
[12:26] <dystopianray> highvoltage: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/libata-for-all-ata-disks
[12:27] <B|atch> dystopianray: changing resolv.conf didn't help so i had to go to System>Administration>Networking and tweak host and dns then only my wireless work
[12:27] <dystopianray> B|atch: oh yeah, well good that it's working
[12:27] <B|atch> dystopianray: you help me on my dlink wireless card moments ago?
[12:27] <TytCom> hey people...
[12:27] <dystopianray> B|atch: yes I remember now
[12:27] <dystopianray> B|atch: that must have been like 2-3 hours ago
[12:28] <TytCom> i'm about to dualboot (i currently have winXP) Ubuntu, will all my files be deleted?
[12:28] <dystopianray> B|atch: personally, if I were you i'd install third party firmware (I have done so to my wrt54gs) and just use dhcp with static dhcp leases
[12:28] <dystopianray> TytCom: shouldn't be, unless you screw something up during the install
[12:28] <B|atch> dystopianray: yeah i had to figure out how to use sudo to configure resolv.conf and i took a nap thats why it took a longer time :)
[12:28] <TytCom> ok..
[12:28] <TytCom> thank you :)
[12:28] <TytCom> bye bye now. :)
[12:29] <B|atch> dystopianray: where can i get the third party firmware? cause my connection in ubuntu is much slower than when im using XP..
[12:29] <marcagio> hello dear Ubuntu people! i changed the resolution to watch a movie with my TV-out (which didn't work 'Cause i can't seem to set my TV as primary display)... anyways when I came back to my 1280X800 (widescreen laptop).... all the menu stuff screwed up and I can't move 'em back to what they were... I got a screenshot if you wanna see...
[12:29] <dystopianray> B|atch: what model is your wrt54g?
[12:29] <dystopianray> B|atch: it's not a v5 or v6 is it?
[12:30] <B|atch> v5
[12:31] <dystopianray> B|atch: ah, so you have the crippled model, hrrm, third party firmware is not a very good idea then
[12:31] <pramso> g
[12:32] <xptical> Hi all.  I have a bit of a clock problem.  DATE is showing local time.  I want it to display UTC.
[12:32] <CoRnJuLiOx> when plugging in USB devices, can the 'string descriptor 0 read error: -32' errors be ignored or are they something to worry about?
[12:32] <B|atch> dystopianray: what? the crippled model. gosh
[12:32] <dystopianray> xptical: 'DATE' ?
[12:32] <spikeb> i'm guessing dean got taken care of
[12:33] <xptical> if I type the command 'date', it lists the date and time
[12:33] <dystopianray> B|atch: your wrt54g is a crippld version of earlier models, probably runs vxworks instead of linux too, it only has half the ram and rom
[12:33] <B|atch> dystopianray: can i talk with you some other time. i got to go. Anyway thanks a bunch
[12:33] <xptical> and it's in EDT
[12:33] <xptical> I need it to display UTC
[12:33] <dystopianray> xptical: you just want to see UTC once, right now? or you want your system to have the utc timezone?
[12:34] <dystopianray> xptical: date -u
[12:34] <xptical> It's a webserver, I want it to be UTC with NTP so that my logs will be valid
[12:34] <dystopianray> xptical: ok, so just delete /etc/localtime
[12:34] <xptical> cat /etc/timezone returns Asia/Tokyo
[12:34] <dystopianray> xptical: why wouldn't your logs be valid without utc?
[12:34] <pramso> hej
[12:34] <xptical> Well, I work better on UTC anyway
[12:35] <xptical> :P
[12:35] <xptical> nice, now it's UTC
[12:37] <xptical> one more wuestion...about logging..  I have a bunch of log.1.gz files.  Can I delete these?
[12:37] <Administrator> #abiword
[12:37] <dystopianray> xptical: if you don't care about old logs, sure
[12:38] <Administrator> 123
[12:38] <xptical> well, I am running webalizer.  If it doesn't care, I don't either
[12:38] <dystopianray> xptical: logs are periodically rotated, so log.1.gz is the previous log file before the most recent rotation
[12:38] <xptical> and I don't think it does.
[12:38] <xptical> copy that
[12:39] <robdeman> cokhey folks is there any way to do a little performance test from the terminal?
[12:39] <robdeman> maybe theres some benchmarking tool?
[12:39] <dystopianray> cokhey?
[12:39] <billy> what's the name of that "post-it note" like applet?
[12:39] <kbrooks> billy, tomboy ?
[12:39] <marcagio> billy I use tomboy
[12:40] <billy> kbrooks: yeah, that's it.  I think I want that back up. thanks, marcagio
[12:40] <dystopianray> i got a block of post it notes from google today
[12:40] <rasputnik> robdeman: what do you want to benchmark? sorry just got back
[12:41] <bryanl> what is the name of the newer wireless network manager?  the name escapes me
[12:41] <robdeman> rasputnik: well I need to now if my machine performs well.  I have the idea that the machines freezes for a second once every while. Not sure exactly what is happening. Its Ubuntu 6.06 server LTS
[12:41] <robdeman> terminal-only
[12:41] <dystopianray> bryanl: network-manager?
[12:41] <Askar> How do I get new visualation plugins for totem?
[12:42] <dystopianray> robdeman: hdparm -tT /dev/blah will test hdd transfer rate
[12:42] <rasputnik> robdeman: 'bonnie' does your disks, but benchmarking isn't going to catch random lockups
[12:42] <bryanl> dystopianray: yup thats it... i just forgot to install before i tried to go wireless
[12:42] <robdeman> what could cause these lockups?
[12:42] <dystopianray> bryanl: you'll want to install network-manager-gnome or knetworkmanager
[12:42] <robdeman> it happens locally aswell as when using ssh
[12:42] <Nom-> Howdy :)
[12:42] <dystopianray> robdeman: does anyting appear in dmesg?
[12:42] <Nom-> Is there a ubuntu utility for modifying the grub config ?
[12:43] <robdeman> dystopianray: can I past eit somewhere?
[12:43] <dystopianray> robdeman: pastebin it
[12:43] <wols_> Nom-: there is update-grub
[12:43] <dystopianray> robdeman: do you see anything suspicious though?
[12:44] <robdeman> dystopianray: haha I dont knw.. not an expert.. where is pastebin?
[12:44] <dystopianray> !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:44] <Nom-> root            (hd2,2)
[12:45] <Nom-> It actually (hd0,2) :(
[12:45] <Nom-> So I just have to edit it manually ?
[12:45] <pramso> hallo
[12:45] <rasputnik> dystopianray: would you usually see something in dmseg? wouldn't think so if the system is locked
[12:45] <robdeman> dystopianray: ok -- pasted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11634/
[12:45] <marcagio> alright 2nd try since I think no one read my issue : I changed the resolution for 800X600 to fit on my TV... when I came back to widescreen (1280x800) my icons were all messed up in the top menu bar and the trashcan is now laying in the middle of the bottom bar and cannot be moved...
[12:46] <dystopianray> rasputnik: it's not a lock up, it's just periodic momentary pauses
[12:47] <pramso> does anybody know much about s3 graphics?
[12:47] <rasputnik> dystopianray: yes, but that isn't going to be logged anywhere
[12:47] <wols_> ask your real questiob pramso
[12:47] <dystopianray> rasputnik: it might be caused by something that is being logged
[12:48] <robdeman> dystopianray: have you guys seen this 'momentary pauses' issue before?
[12:48] <dystopianray> robdeman: not that I can recall
[12:48] <marcagio> prasmo, I know theyr support sucks
[12:48] <dystopianray> robdeman: you're using the ata_piix driver, does your bios allow you to turn on AHCI support for your ata controller?
[12:48] <rasputnik> dystopianray: i guess. i've been wishing it would for about eight years though :)
[12:49] <dystopianray> rasputnik: you have momentary pause problems too?
[12:49] <pramso> I want to change TV-out to PAL from NTSC, but the command "s3switch PAL" will not work! Does anybody know why?
[12:49] <rasputnik> robdeman: yeah now and then. it's very hard to track that sort of thing down
[12:49] <robdeman> dystopianray: AHCI support for ATA? ok let me check that I will be back in a minute
[12:49] <robdeman> rasputnik: yeah.. I was afraid of that
[12:49] <rasputnik> dystopianray: not at the moment, but i've had several (shitty dell) servers that have done things like that before
[12:49] <robdeman> let me check the AHCI support
[12:50] <dystopianray> robdeman: it's usually a bios option that you need to turn on, becuase windows doesn't support AHCI properly
[12:51] <AnAnt> !ldap
[12:51] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[12:53] <Nom-> blah, anyone got any experience using dmraid?  I trying to configure a new RAID array (nForce4 chipset)
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> okay folks
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> i need instructions on how to ijnstall 6.10 on an intel mac... specifically dual booting osx and ubuntu
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> on the 15" macbookpro
[12:54] <shadeofgrey> but before we even go there - do the ati display drivers still blow rancid moose balls or what?
[12:54] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: yes, ati still suck
[12:54] <Seph2409> shadeofgrey, have you partitioned?
[12:54] <shadeofgrey> so theres no point then  i take it?
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> if its going to completely blow graphically i guess theres no point in suffering through the install process no?
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> whats the best setup for ubuntu installs
[12:55] <Nom-> shadeofgrey: I dont know about mac, but I was able to use it on Windows no problems...
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> nvidia still rules the roost?
[12:55] <rasputnik> shadeofgrey: have you thought of parallels? it's like 40 pounds.
[12:55] <Seph2409> Well Ubuntu is running very nicely on my old G3 iMac
[12:55] <Nom-> ie. Ive run Windows + ATI no problem
[12:55] <Nom-> And Linux + ATI (without gaming) no problem
[12:55] <Seph2409> I would also suggest Parallels
[12:56] <shadeofgrey> what does parallels accomplish?
[12:56] <shadeofgrey> okay wait
[12:56] <shadeofgrey> hold it
[12:56] <Seph2409> It's virtualization software
[12:56] <Seph2409> It makes virtual hard drives which are basically just disk images and installs OSes onto them
[12:56] <Seph2409> So you don't need to partition
[12:57] <Seph2409> And you can boot up another OS within Mac OS and run both at the same time
[12:57] <shadeofgrey> i should give you more backstory.  im VERY VERY VERY physically handicapped.  i type one handed with 4 fingers - http://youtube.com/watch?v=xL6svX577Bw for those of you that want to see it.  im interested in running vista so i can run dragon naturally speaking
[12:57] <shadeofgrey> because my typing fiungers are dying
[12:57] <shadeofgrey> but i really want to get back into ubuntu because ubuntu is a gold mine
[12:58] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: linux has no speech recognition software
[12:58] <shadeofgrey> you wouldnt believe how many college students ive got that want to pay me $300 each to move from win to ubuntu
[12:58] <shadeofgrey> so
[12:58] <spikeb> it doesn't?
[12:58] <Seph2409> You could use iListen for Mac
[12:58] <shadeofgrey> its definately in my best interest to start running ubuntu in a permanent dualboot config
[12:59] <shadeofgrey> iliosten blows
[12:59] <edmondt> it would be cool if we can run MAC apps
[12:59] <shadeofgrey> it cant touch DNSpro
[12:59] <Seph2409> Yes, I know
[12:59] <spikeb> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Speech-Recognition-HOWTO/index.html
[12:59] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: you charge $300 to install ubuntu??
[12:59] <shadeofgrey> no
[12:59] <shadeofgrey> thats what i was offered
[12:59] <Seph2409> DNS is just for Windows though, you want to use it in Linux through Wine?
[01:00] <fabiim> chm ?
[01:00] <dystopianray> DNS is only for windows? huh?
[01:00] <shadeofgrey> yes';
[01:00] <Zewey> shadeofgrey: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/13/1445211
[01:00] <dystopianray> oh!, dragon natural speaking :S
[01:00] <dystopianray> I thought the other DNS was meant
[01:01] <Seph2409> :D Sorry
[01:01] <dystopianray> i very much doubt that dragon naturally speaking can be used in wine
[01:01] <dystopianray> I don't think wine apps can communicate with linux apps
[01:01] <Seph2409> That's a point
[01:01] <dystopianray> and dns has lots of application specific hooks, like for explorer.exe
[01:02] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: so you are this chris ryan guy?
[01:02] <shadeofgrey> yeah
[01:02] <shadeofgrey> thats me
[01:03] <Seph2409> So you want to use DNS inside Ubuntu? I don't think you can.
[01:03] <shadeofgrey> ive seen other gimps (disabled folks) mention - mostly paralysis victims (amazingly one of them actually uses DNSpro to wwrite C++ source code because hes paralyzed from the neck down
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> anyway
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> he runs macosx and ubuntu and windows all on a macpro
[01:04] <dystopianray> i believe there are speech recognition apps for linux, but all proprietry and costly
[01:04] <Seph2409> So what do you want to run DNS in?
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> and says that through parallels that DNSpro actually runs faster on the quadcore mac than it doerss on a xps dell
[01:05] <Seph2409> Then you should install Windows onto your Mac with Parallels
[01:05] <shadeofgrey> but he has to have 8gig of ram to make all that shit work right
[01:05] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: you didn't mention linux in that news story :(
[01:05] <Nullbyte> Do any of you guys know how I speed up ripping CDs a bit? This is kind of horrible.
[01:05] <pramso> I want to change TV-out to PAL from NTSC, but the command "s3switch PAL" will not work! Does anybody know  why? Please help!
[01:06] <Nom-> hmmm...ok any suggestions?  dmraid is installed, it finds my nvidia controller, but its not creating the entries in /dev ?
[01:06] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: buy a faster cdrom, or check that DMA is enabled
[01:06] <shadeofgrey> dystopianray, thats because the bitch that interviewed me chopped 2 minutes of the interview where i gave shoutouts to the ubuntu developers and the makers of openogffice
[01:06] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: ah, stupid media
[01:06] <shadeofgrey> anywaay
[01:06] <Nullbyte> Dystopianray: DMA is enabled, but it still rips at 1x or so
[01:06] <mfd> shadeofgrey: What interview was this?
[01:06] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: is it ripping digitally?
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> the deal breaker for me is whether or not running ubuntu on macpro's is feasible and as easy as installing ion intel pc's
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=xL6svX577Bw
[01:07] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: I have no idea, heh
[01:07] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: is it an intel mac pro?
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> yes
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> well it will be
[01:07] <Seph2409> I don't understand what you want to achieve? Running Ubuntu, running DNSpro or both?
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> i havbe an amazing credit score... 830 out of 850
[01:08] <shadeofgrey> I want to run macosx, Windows Vista, and ubuntu all on the same machine
[01:08] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: I'm pretty sure you can install linux on those, both with and without bootcamp and it works fine
[01:08] <Seph2409> Then make three partitions in Disk Utility of the sizes you want
[01:08] <Nullbyte> More than three
[01:08] <Seph2409> Why's that?
[01:09] <dystopianray> you need a swap partition
[01:09] <Nullbyte> Exactly
[01:09] <Seph2409> Ooh, I'm out of my depth, listen to these guys. I'll shut up now.
[01:09] <dystopianray> well, you don't really
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> it would cost me about 10 granbd in hardware to do it all very quickly but idont mind the cost as lolng as three things are possible 1.) i xcan still run mac, and riun windows on mac, which is far safer than running vista on a PC, and run ubuntu on my macpro so i can keep up with ubuntuj and make a small fortune transitionming pc college students to ubuntu so they arent victims of windsows worms every sejmester
[01:09] <dystopianray> you could use a swap file
[01:09] <dystopianray> but the installer doesn't handle that case
[01:10] <marcagio> 3rd try, I think no one reads my issue : I changed the resolution for 800X600 to fit on my TV... when I came back to widescreen (1280x800) my icons were all messed up in the top menu bar and the trashcan is now laying in the middle of the bottom bar and cannot be moved...
[01:10] <virgule> hi..i use ubuntu 6.10 and i havean ati mobilty radeon x1400 ..how can i install it?
[01:10] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: it should be possible to run all three without issue
[01:10] <Nullbyte> !ati | virgule
[01:10] <ubotu> virgule: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:11] <ahmet_> Bonjour, SVP je recherche une version de linux pour une viellie machine ( HP Pavillion 6345, Processeur AMD-K6, 32 Mo de memoire SDRAM, DD d'une capacite de 3,2 Go ) ?
[01:11] <shadeofgrey> so the seconmd wuestion is...  if running ubuntu and windows and macosx all on a macpro is borderlkine insanity inducing then should i just say fuck it and build  a PC god box?
[01:11] <Nullbyte> !fr | ahmet_
[01:11] <ubotu> ahmet_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:11] <marcagio> ahmet_ Xubuntu
[01:11] <Nom-> So noone has experience getting NRAID going? :/
[01:11] <Nom-> NVRAID even
[01:11] <rickympl> !fesity
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <rickympl> !feisty
[01:11] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:11] <shadeofgrey> because 10k would buy me a SWEET voodoopc machine
[01:12] <shadeofgrey> the thinmg i dont like is the 4 gig of ram limit
[01:12] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: do you want to run them simultaneously in a vm of some kind? or just triple-boot?
[01:12] <Seph2409> Running it on the Mac shouldn't be a problem
[01:12] <shadeofgrey> no..  hell no.  just triple boot
[01:12] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: get a 64-bit capable computer, then you can use as much ram as you want
[01:12] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: triple-boot is not insane at all, pretty standard
[01:12] <mfd> shadeofgrey: You're Chris Ryan?
[01:12] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  yes!
[01:13] <Seph2409> As long as you have a nice big hard drive then there's no reason not to triple-boott on the Mac
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> i really wish i could findsomeplace that would help me defer the cost of a mac because of my handivcapp and my need for a really fast machine for diuvctation
[01:13] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: if you want to use >4GB of RAM, then use 64-bit vista and 64-bit ubuntu, and use osx leopard when it comes out
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> i only make $560 a month
[01:13] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Typing with one hand is pretty ereet
[01:13] <Seph2409> I'm sure you could email apple
[01:13] <mfd> I'd like to code one handed
[01:13] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: write a letter to apple, maybe they'll help you out
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> i did
[01:13] <Seph2409> No joy?
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> they told me they diont give harsdware orsoftware away to anybody
[01:13] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Buy a refurbished macbook
[01:13] <mfd> dystopianray: :\
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> i HAVE a 15" macbookpro
[01:13] <pramso> Could anybody recommend a channel that is specialized on graphic problems?
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> but its a coree duo
[01:14] <shadeofgrey> not a core2duo
[01:14] <mfd> shadeofgrey: hahaha, loser.
[01:14] <shadeofgrey> which pisses me off because the core2s started shipping 6 weeks after ibought mine
[01:14] <mfd> I'm getting a black macbook intel core 2 duo.
[01:14] <mfd> You should have waited for a few months man.
[01:14] <mfd> Yeah
[01:14] <kazaly> woohoo for you!
[01:14] <marcagio> mfd respect man... wtf are you doin' callin ppl losers?
[01:14] <mfd> kazaly: Hi douche :)
[01:15] <mfd> marcagio: I was jesting.
[01:15] <marcagio> oh
[01:15] <xipietotec> shadeofgrey: the actor or the SAS guy? =)
[01:15] <shadeofgrey> but see thats always how it goies... i waited as long as i possibly could... i transitioned from a pentium 3 with 384 megs of ram and an nvidiaII card
[01:15] <shadeofgrey> which cost me $2700 when i bought it brand new from dell on credit
[01:15] <highneko> How can I get a python script with gui to execute when ubuntu starts up? I tried -> System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs -> then adding the name like "testing", which is a symbolic link to "~/.testing/test.py". When starting the script never gets run. Any ideas?
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> this is goingto sound stupid but my dream is to be a professional blogger and exclusively online based novelist
[01:16] <xipietotec> oh oh, quite different
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> thats why i need the dictation software
[01:16] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Like Robert Spencer?
[01:16] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: why do you need core 2 duo?
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> because writing 90,000 words onehanded is very painful
[01:17] <virgule> tnx
[01:17] <mfd> So a core2duo would make things better?
[01:17] <shadeofgrey> it takes serious balls to     type onehaned anyway.  it took me 12 years toget as fast as i am now
[01:17] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows if there's a program like Speedfan for linux?
[01:17] <shadeofgrey> if i take 4 or 5 painkillers at a time i vcan cruise at a top speed of 62wpm
[01:17] <mfd> shadeofgrey: lol, what's your blog link?
[01:17] <Zaggynl> I tried searching through /proc, but nothing of use
[01:17] <xipietotec> shadeofgrey: have you seen frogpad?
[01:17] <Zaggynl> acpitools didn't help either
[01:17] <xipietotec> It's a 1 handed keyboard
[01:17] <robdeman> rasputnik: ok I did the AHCPI thing, desg is pasted again here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11641/
[01:18] <phaethon_> anino>?
[01:18] <mfd> Hmm I can type 200wpm.
[01:18] <shadeofgrey> yes i have seen frog pad
[01:18] <robdeman> dystopianray: oops sorry that was for you -> ACPI thing done see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11641/
[01:18] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  yeah!  you ghave ten fingers!  i only have four that work
[01:18] <dystopianray> robdeman: AHCI?
[01:18] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Yeah, well.. You're still pretty elite
[01:18] <mfd> My mother can't type 40wpm with 10 fingers
[01:19] <robdeman> dystopianray: ehrm now wait a second AHCI it is right
[01:19] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  christopher-ryan.net is my personal which is nothing right now -- www.thetruthdirective.com is my political commentary site
[01:19] <xipietotec> shadeofgrey: I have a friend who's in a similar boat, she has to use windows, but she uses cygwin on top of it, and has some other tools too, she's a unix/linux wiz, completely blind
[01:19] <dystopianray> robdeman: AHCI is what I mentioned, not ACPI
[01:19] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Lol, ok
[01:20] <shadeofgrey> but political commentary from the USA perspective is so goddamned depressing these days i havent kept up with it
[01:20] <shadeofgrey> im almost 4 weeks behind
[01:20] <JuJuBee> I wish to create  a folder called /home/DropBox and allow students to drop files into it, but not cd into, delete from, ls either.  I have a group called users and all my students are a member of users.  What perms do I put on the folder so they can drop files into it?
[01:20] <robdeman> dystopianray: lemme double check
[01:20] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Do you go to #politics
[01:20] <shadeofgrey> but i HAVE to get dragon running before i can write anything at high speed
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> i think it will be easier when leopard deploys
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> because parallels and bootcamp are supposed  to be standfardby then
[01:21] <mfd> It's coming out next month.
[01:21] <dystopianray> JuJuBee: I think if you give it nothing but write permissino it'll work as you want
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> but theres rumors ill havbe to buy a copy of windows ultimate to get virtualization on Vista
[01:21] <PirateHead> What is? Feisty?
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> no - leopoard
[01:21] <PirateHead> Ah. Leopoard. x.x
[01:22] <shadeofgrey> thats my big struggling point
[01:22] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: if you want to virtualize vista you'll need vista ultimate, but there is nothing stopping you from virtualising other OSs on any vista version, afaik
[01:22] <mfd> PirateHead: OSX.
[01:22] <mfd> Apple. PirateHead.
[01:22] <JuJuBee> Thanks dystopianray
[01:22] <shadeofgrey> i cant decide whether its best to go highend mac or highend pc
[01:22] <mfd> I'm going to run Vista/OSX/Ubuntu on my macbook when it comes.
[01:22] <mfd> It'll be like w04h
[01:22] <dystopianray> JuJuBee: be sure to test it though
[01:22] <PirateHead> mfd: I know how it works. Apple names its OSX releases after big cats. I'm waiting for OSX Tabby to switch over, though.
[01:22] <shadeofgrey> i KNOW i can get DNSpro working on windoiws no problem
[01:22] <JuJuBee> I will
[01:23] <shadeofgrey> but the instructions for mac are so complicated
[01:23] <laskin1> dystopianray How to switch gnome to kde
[01:23] <ferronica> from where i can download Theme for ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake.
[01:23] <dystopianray> laskin1: you want to install kde?
[01:23] <mfd> PirateHead: I prefer OSX names to ubuntu names.
[01:23] <laskin1> installed
[01:23] <shadeofgrey> because mac stuff is so muvh more expoensive
[01:23] <mfd> Feisty Fawn
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> but its by far the nicest machine ive ever owned
[01:24] <PirateHead> laskin1: do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and it will enable KDE.
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> i spent $675 and bought a 24" dell flatscreen to hook it to and now my setup rules
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> the only thing  i havent upgraded is the internal dfrive to 7200
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> i maxed out the ram the day i bought the machine
[01:24] <Nom-> bleh
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> got the ram from other world computing
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> they rule
[01:25] <Nom-> Where did the X64 specific kernels go? :(
[01:25] <mfd> shadeofgrey: This is an ubuntu help channel.
[01:25] <JosefK> JuJuBee, you need to 'chown root:users /home/DropBox; chmod 330 /home/DropBox'
[01:25] <ThomasZ> I'm running kubuntu-edgy with libc 2.4-1ubuntu12.3   I'm wondering if there are known problems since my own software started to crash in things like malloc() (according to gdb)
[01:25] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: why do you need such high performance?
[01:25] <mfd> Enough blogging in irc.
[01:25] <laskin1> i have KDE  but how to switch to gnome
[01:25] <mfd> laskin1: sudo apt-get install gnome
[01:25] <dystopianray> laskin1: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:25] <shadeofgrey> dys:  because Dragon Naturally speaking pro has a HUGE footprint
[01:25] <IdleOne> laskin1, sudo apt-get instll ubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <mfd> Toast: You go to #phrack?
[01:25] <defrysk> laskin1, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop gdm
[01:25] <dystopianray> laskin1: oh sorry, you want to siwtch too gnome
[01:25] <mjr> laskin1, ubuntu-desktop is the correct one of the above :] 
[01:25] <PirateHead> laskin1: to enable Gnome, do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[01:26] <mfd> :o Yeah, ubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <mfd> & gdm
[01:26] <defrysk> laskin1, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:26] <robdeman> dystopianray: there is no setting that deals with AHCI
[01:26] <defrysk> laskin1, then set it to gdm
[01:26] <dystopianray> robdeman: ok then
[01:26] <dystopianray> robdeman: I don't know what else could be causing your problem then
[01:26] <defrysk> laskin1, then restart x and set session in gdm to gnome
[01:26] <dystopianray> robdeman: maybe try other distros, operating systems, version of ubuntu, etc.. to see if the same problem exists
[01:27] <virgule> ...trying to install ati..after update i got this eror E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fgrlx
[01:27] <rambo3> mm e17 update.
[01:27] <defrysk> laskin1, then sudo apt-get remove kubuntu desktop
[01:27] <defrysk> laskin1, then sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:27] <laskin1> session can choose kde and gnome?
[01:27] <defrysk> laskin1, then sudo apt-get remove kdm
[01:27] <robdeman> dystopianray: really, should I try Fedora then?
[01:27] <shadeofgrey> no
[01:27] <robdeman> dystopianray: why is Ubuntu depending on AHCI ?
[01:27] <shadeofgrey> fedora blows
[01:28] <laskin1> i need both
[01:28] <shadeofgrey> its a ridiculous resource hog
[01:28] <dystopianray> robdeman: it isn't.. it was just a suggestion of mine, but you don't have it, so forget I mentioned it
[01:28] <rambo3> we
[01:28] <PirateHead> shadeofgrey: fedora isn't so bad. Perhaps a bit heavy, yeah, but many GNOME desktops are!
[01:28] <defrysk> laskin1, then do not remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <tuqann> hi, need help with setting up a straight-forward ether LAN connection, unproxied
[01:28] <dystopianray> robdeman: it might be useful to try fedora, or one of the feisty releases, or something else, just to see if the pause problem still exists
[01:29] <mfd> I tried fedora out.
[01:29] <PirateHead> tuqann: 1) find a network cable. 2) plug one end into your router. 3) plug the other end into your machine. 4) enjoy interwebs.
[01:29] <mfd> It couldn't recognize my brodacom ethernet card.
[01:29] <mfd> So I dropped it.
[01:29] <dystopianray> mfd: b44?
[01:29] <tuqann> haahaa, I wish it was that easy, I'm running Edgy (6.10) and I selected wireless as my main connection
[01:29] <mfd> dystopianray: Yes.
[01:29] <laskin1> have a easy way to do it?  like a command switch to gnome   and startx
[01:30] <tuqann> my wireless adapter that is, and now I can't seem to get internet running with the LAN cable
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> is beryl a viable option for ubuntu users yet or no?
[01:30] <mfd> Is there a patch?
[01:30] <defrysk> laskin1, in your login manager you can switch your session
[01:30] <mfd> shadeofgrey: It is.
[01:30] <rambo3> tuqann, just remove auto from wireless in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:30] <mfd> Do you 'run' ubuntu, shadeofgrey
[01:30] <dystopianray> tuqann: plug in the cable and run $ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> it looks  cool as hell
[01:30] <defrysk> laskin1, from gnome > kde and vice versa
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  not since moving to mac no
[01:30] <robdeman> dystopianray: I think we had Ubuntu before on this machine, but then it was using 2x 120GB drives. We replaced them with 2x 500GB and reinstalled Ubuntu. Maybe this is part of the problem?
[01:30] <laskin1> text mod?
[01:30] <dystopianray> tuqann: if you have dhcp it should 'just work'
[01:30] <PirateHead> tuqann: try what rambo3 suggests, or try downloading the gnome-network-manager and asking it to configure your ether LAN for you.
[01:30] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Yeah, it's grand.
[01:30] <dystopianray> robdeman: hrrm, maybe
[01:30] <mfd> Not a resource hogger either.
[01:31] <mfd> shadeofgrey: You can run ubuntu on your macbook friend.
[01:31] <tuqann> yes
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> dystopianray, do you think you could talk me through how to install ubuntu on my macbookpro?
[01:31] <spikeb> i used to run ubuntu on my ibook before it died
[01:31] <tuqann> but I don't have internet on ubuntu to download the gnome-network-manager online
[01:31] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: well, I can assist, I don't have a mac though so I have no experience
[01:31] <Stormx2> Hey folks. Is there any way I can add a certain server cetificate as trusted globally? davfs says it can't be, but it is for my school...
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> mfd: do you think you could talk me through how to install ubuntu on my macbookpro?
[01:31] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: if you look on the forums, or in the wiki, there are probably guides on doing it, I don't know how it differs from a normal install
[01:31] <rambo3> tuqann, bring down wireless , and start LAN
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> yeah
[01:31] <tuqann> I don't want to keep switching between Vista and Ubuntu, so I just want to get all the info I think I need in one go
[01:31] <PirateHead> tuqann: that might be a problem. Try rambo3's suggeswtion: remove auto from wireless in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:32] <tuqann> I'm paying for this connection by the hour :P
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> unfiortunately the existing guides are ridiculously complicated
[01:32] <laskin1> dystopianray you earn salary from here?
[01:32] <robdeman> dystopianray: Im using this machine, maybe you can tell me something about it wheter it should run Ubuntu or not? http://tyan.com/support_download_manuals.aspx?model=B.GS12B5103
[01:32] <mfd> shadeofgrey: I haven't installed it on a mbp. But there are installation manuals.
[01:32] <rambo3> tuqann, sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup eth0
[01:32] <tuqann> alright, bringdown wireless, I'm assuming ifconfig wlan0 down?
[01:32] <dystopianray> laskin1: umm no, i'm just 'some guy'
[01:32] <mfd> Check the Gentoo installer guide for mbp.
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  could you find me a url to the best one?
[01:32] <dystopianray> robdeman: I have no idea, sorry
[01:32] <ferronica> how to burn DVD ripped Video???
[01:32] <robdeman> dystopianray:ok thanks anyway buddy :)
[01:32] <tuqann> ahhh, okay, I'll give that a shot, I had pages scrapbooked with all the toturials but Vista ate them up when I installed it :P
[01:32] <mfd> check the gentoo wiki
[01:33] <tuqann> brb
[01:33] <dystopianray> ferronica: you have *.vob files?
[01:33] <ferronica> which software should i use???
[01:33] <laskin1> always see you hmm  8-)
[01:33] <dystopianray> laskin1: only been using ubuntu for a week or two
[01:33] <laskin1> a week
[01:33] <ferronica> dystopianray: i think NO
[01:33] <dystopianray> ferronica: what do you have that you want to burn?
[01:34] <dystopianray> laskin1: I used gentoo for over 2 years previously
[01:34] <rambo3> what you want a cookie?
[01:34] <laskin1> i can't upgrade to 7.04   i have a problem
[01:34] <Chai_Sangeen> hello
[01:34] <mfd> laskin1: poor you
[01:34] <Nom-> am i going mad, or is there no x64 kernel available in edgy ?
[01:34] <ferronica> dystopianray: i have downloded one movie from www.demonoid.com which is DVD Rip now how to burn it
[01:34] <Seveas> Nom-, you're going mad
[01:35] <shadeofgrey> okay i got my answer
[01:35] <dystopianray> ferronica: you want to burn it as a dvd? or just burn the file onto a dvd?
[01:35] <Nom-> Seveas: Its not showing up in Synaptic ?
[01:35] <shadeofgrey> installing on mac with nothing but the ubuntu install CD will work when Feisty is no longer beta
[01:35] <ferronica> dystopianray: should i burn DATA CD
[01:35] <dystopianray> ferronica: is it a dvdrip that has been reencoded into another format, or is it an .iso image?
[01:35] <Seveas> Nom-, then you're on a 32bit system
[01:36] <laskin1> dystopianray    why you speak so quickly?   =-O
[01:36] <ferronica> dystopianray: You tell me what to do with these type of file
[01:36] <Nom-> No, im not...I think I got the bloody 32-bit installer though :(
[01:36] <dystopianray> laskin1: what?
[01:36] <Chai_Sangeen> i just reinstalled edgy on my macbook but for some reason the trackpad is extremely slow it almost not usable, i also experienced the same when booting into the live cd... i never used to have this prob on my previous install
[01:36] <Seveas> Nom-, then you're on a 32bit system :)
[01:36] <Nom-> Damnit, you need to get the 64-bit installer? *cry*
[01:36] <dystopianray> ferronica: what is the type of file? I don't know whether you have an iso, an avi, vobs or what...
[01:36] <laskin1> why you can ask all guys
[01:36] <laskin1> question
[01:36] <Seveas> Nom-, indeed
[01:36] <ferronica> dystopianray: its .avi
[01:36] <rambo3> !synaptics
[01:36] <Nom-> What a PITA
[01:36] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:37] <Nom-> Thanks, Seveas
[01:37] <dystopianray> laskin1: I don't know what you mean
[01:37] <mfd> "Do you need the 64bit installer"
[01:37] <IdleOne> dystopianray, he is wondering how come you can type so fast
[01:37] <mfd> Man.
[01:37] <dystopianray> ferronica: do you want to make a dvd movie out of it? one that you can play in a dvd player?
[01:37] <dystopianray> IdleOne: :S becuase I have been using computers for years
[01:37] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen read what ubotu sad
[01:37] <Nom-> Seveas: I assume youve used the 64-bit version?  What should I know before I go and install it? :)
[01:37] <laskin1> i mean you are very ....  very ...  (good words   ):-P
[01:38] <tuqann> haahaa, yeah, as easy as pie
[01:38] <Seveas> Nom-, that flash won't work and neither will .wmv or .wma files
[01:38] <dystopianray> laskin1: I have only been using ubuntu for a short time, but have used other distros previously for several years
[01:38] <tuqann> ok
[01:38] <pramso> does anybody know another tool then s3switch for s3 graphics that can change NTSC to PAL?
[01:38] <tuqann> damn, need to change my nick back to tuqann
[01:39] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, ubotu  thanks guys ill check ti out and update u if problem persists
[01:39] <laskin1> i just know redhat before ubuntu
[01:39] <Nom-> Seveas: Well, that kind of sucks....better just use 32-bit for now?
[01:39] <Seveas> Nom-, if those things are important to you: yes
[01:39] <dystopianray> Seveas: wmv will as of feisty
[01:39] <laskin1> wait a moment upgrade err
[01:40] <IdleOne> dystopianray, on the 64bit version?
[01:40] <dystopianray> IdleOne: yes, ffmpeg has a native wmv3/vc-1 decoder now
[01:40] <Seveas> nice
[01:40] <ferronica> dystopianray: If i burn it as DVD then full screen will come
[01:40] <Nom-> Last question for now, I hope... How do I turn off this thing which keeps converting all my normal quotes into extended characters
[01:40] <Nom-> ie. s = 
[01:41] <dystopianray> ferronica: ah.. I'm not sure what you mean, you'll need some software that can convert an avi to a proper dvd, although I don't know of any
[01:41] <Nom-> it most annoying...
[01:41] <ferronica> dystopianray: because right now  small view area
[01:41] <tuqann> (aka tuqann) I've downloaded and ran "make install" two files, ipw2200 and ieee802.11, how will that affect my wireless if I just leave them be and get gnome-network-manager
[01:41] <Seveas> Nom-, you're looking for 'dead keys' in system -> prefs -> keyboard and you want to turn it off :)
[01:41] <billy> could i backup my system by copying it to another partition.  like, mount the other partition and then cp to the mount point?
[01:41] <dystopianray> tuqann: ubuntu supports ipw2200 right out of the box
[01:41] <laskin1> dystopianray you not work?  come here help us:-P
[01:42] <tuqann> I must have been reading an old thread
[01:42] <dystopianray> billy: I think using tar would be preferable, and be sure to preserve permissions
[01:42] <ferronica> dystopianray: 879 kbps xvid (Q.F.:0.231 bits*pixel)
[01:42] <dystopianray> laskin1: I'm a student
[01:42] <tuqann> can I fix it or should it be okay just to forget about it
[01:42] <N6REJ> I'm having problems getting ubuntu-server to install on my laptop.  It installs fine and then just continously reboots
[01:42] <billy> dystopianray:  great idea.  thanks for the tip.
[01:42] <fiqh> dystopianray, what box
[01:42] <dystopianray> tuqann: what is the problem?
[01:42] <ferronica> dystopianray: you mean it will convert it as before
[01:43] <ferronica> dystopianray: full screen will come
[01:43] <laskin1> me too8-)  but i know less than you
[01:43] <dystopianray> ferronica: sorry, I have no idea when it comes to converting avis to dvds
[01:43] <tuqann> okay, I want to get wireless to work, the gnome-network-manager, cause I have a WPA secured wireless network
[01:43] <Nom-> Seveas: I have looked in there, I see a keyboard layout with dead keys on it, but removing it has no effect (it auto re-adds itself)
[01:43] <tuqann> I downloaded and ran make install for two files, ipw2200 and ieee, becausae I didn't have this lan connection before I'm using now
[01:44] <dystopianray> tuqann: ipw2200 and iee80211 have nothing to do with lans
[01:44] <N6REJ> Seveas: good morning long time no speak
[01:44] <tuqann> okay
[01:44] <tuqann> for wireless
[01:44] <dystopianray> tuqann: oh, you mean you installed them to get wifi working
[01:44] <tuqann> yes
[01:44] <dystopianray> tuqann: well as I said, ubuntu supports ipw2200 out of the box, since at least 6.06
[01:44] <naught101> anyone know why firefox can't "open target directory" when downloading?
[01:44] <ferronica> dystopianray: can i burn it in VCD?
[01:44] <mike1o> !scanner
[01:44] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[01:44] <dystopianray> ferronica: I don't see why not, you'll need some program that can convert it though
[01:45] <tuqann> so I just grab gnome-network-manager with apt-get and that's the end of the story?
[01:45] <phaethon_> can anyone recommend a video card w/ open source drivers thats of comparable performance to a 7600gs, at least for beryl and minimum games like GW via wine?
[01:45] <ferronica> dystopianray: you its possible to convert DVDrip to DVD and VDC right ????
[01:45] <isak>  /whois CNU
[01:46] <isak> damn
[01:46] <dystopianray> ferronica: yes it is certainly possible, I don't know how to do it though i'm afraid
[01:46] <dystopianray> phaethon_: such a beast does not exist
[01:46] <phaethon_> :( so were struck with binary drivers? :(
[01:46] <thee3> why do programs keep crashing with the generic kernel but work ok with 386 on my computer?
[01:46] <ferronica> dystopianray: LOL dont scare i am with you :)
[01:46] <phaethon_> erm stuck
[01:47] <CNU> isak dont hoax me =(
[01:47] <dystopianray> phaethon_: intel and early ati cards have open source drivers, the performance is a bit crap though
[01:47] <isak> CNU :P
[01:47] <dystopianray> phaethon_: the nouveau project is making open source nvidia drivers, but there is still a long way to go
[01:47] <ferronica> dystopianray: you dont know  any software ?
[01:47] <dystopianray> ferronica: maybe ffmpeg, but it's a fairly complicated command line tool
[01:48] <AliceD> nero for windows can do it so the linux one may
[01:48] <tuqann> so I just install network-manager, problem sover???
[01:48] <dystopianray> ferronica: if you look in the forums there is probably guides on how to make a dvd
[01:48] <dystopianray> AliceD: I don't think nero for linux supports any of the multimedia stuff of the windows version
[01:48] <dystopianray> tuqann: yeah network-manager will do it
[01:48] <AliceD> that sucks
[01:48] <dystopianray> tuqann: edit /etc/network/interfaces to remove all but the 'lo' interface too
[01:48] <tuqann> okay
[01:49] <phaethon_> yah, i have intel i9515 gfx card in my laptop .. runs beryl good enough.. no such luck w/ gaming.. so were stuck till nvidia / ati release specs for O/S drivers pretty much? or at least optimized drivers for linux vs windows. so were like windows vista atm, whereas using there drivers will actually slow your framerate
[01:49] <gambit> hi guys
[01:49] <ferronica> dystopianray: Give me the link let me check it out ....
[01:49] <n33o> Hi, how can i set up local ftp server for my network >??
[01:49] <dystopianray> !forums
[01:49] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[01:49] <dystopianray> ferronica: http://www.ubuntuforums.org.
[01:49] <n33o> Im using 6.06
[01:49] <fiqh> !sex
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <n33o> ftp
[01:49] <phaethon_> the latest vista drivers dropped my framerate in vanguard by over 12 fps :(
[01:49] <n33o> !ftp
[01:49] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[01:50] <n33o> !ftp server
[01:50] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[01:50] <tuqann> how to I add the daemon to my startup session?
[01:50] <dystopianray> phaethon_: I have i915 as well, it's not too bad, and it will get faster eventually, there is still lots of work being done in non-mainline branches, like native modesetting and that new texture thing
[01:50] <tuqann> I installed it, it said "starting daemon [ok] " but I don't see it
[01:50] <dystopianray> tuqann: networkmanager? should do it automatically when you install it
[01:50] <Chai_Sangeen> ubotu, does the link u sent me apply to edgy to ? or no diff ?
[01:50] <dystopianray> tuqann: you need to install a frontend for it, like network-manager-gnome or knetworkmanager
[01:50] <gambit> could anybody help re. my problem with wifi card it is RT61,how can i install the driver?m using 6.10
[01:51] <thee3> why do programs keep crashing with the generic kernel but work ok with 386 on my computer?
[01:51] <phaethon_> my laptop with i915 is more .. happy than my nvidia 7600gs atm. least it doesnt require me re running envy every kernal update :D cmon drivers....
[01:51] <dystopianray> Chai_Sangeen: ubotu is a bot
[01:51] <jft_> hey all
[01:51] <CheshireViking> !botsnack
[01:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:51] <tuqann> hmmm, restart perhaps?
[01:51] <rambo3> !synaptics | Chai_Sangeen,
[01:51] <ubotu> Chai_Sangeen,: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:51] <Chai_Sangeen> dystopianray, hahaha
[01:51] <tont> i have compiled the kernel 2.6.20..it's ok..but when i start him firm to the following messages: waiting for root filesystem..what can i do?
[01:51] <jft_> has anyone tried ubuntu on the dialouge flybook?
[01:51] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, it works for all ubuntu version
[01:51] <phaethon_> dystopianray: thx for the help :)
[01:51] <thee3> why do programs keep crashing with the generic kernel but work ok with 386 on my feisty?
[01:52] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, just scroll down to the bottom of that page to read for apple
[01:52] <billy> dystopianray:  for the backup, create a tar.gz better, you think?  easier to transfer?
[01:52] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, yeah but when i did the grep there was no "Synaptics Touchpad"
[01:52] <dystopianray> phaethon_: I think feisty will have the i915tex driver, which improves performance
[01:52] <quiet> i'm not gonna break anything if i install kubuntu-desktop on a ubuntu that already has gnome, right?
[01:52] <tuqann> I remember setting up wpa_supplicant for my WPA wireless connection
[01:52] <phaethon_> dystopianray,  awesoem :)
[01:52] <dystopianray> billy: hrrm, how much data?
[01:52] <quiet> nor should it be a problem to remove kubuntu-desktop in the even i don't want it.
[01:52] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay let me check that out...
[01:52] <billy> dystopianray: well, it's the entire shabangabang.  5Gig, about.
[01:53] <tuqann> I'm gonna restart (or logoff/on) and see if I get the daemon to run
[01:53] <dystopianray> billy: ah, well 5GB is not that much, gzip might allow it to fit on a dvd, which could be handy
[01:53] <n33o> how do i apt get and install pure adimin
[01:53] <phaethon_> dystopianray,  but for my desktop, theres neither a reason or a card to move to from my 7600gs? thats too bad :( i thought matrox was O/S friendly, though that was many years ago
[01:53] <n33o> ?
[01:53] <billy> dystopianray:  gzip?  what about -z flag into tar?
[01:53] <dystopianray> phaethon_: I don't think matrox has made a card in years
[01:53] <Mortuis> How do I list what ports are open?
[01:54] <n33o> !ftp server
[01:54] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[01:54] <phaethon_> dystopianray, its been a while :)
[01:54] <dystopianray> billy: yes, the -z flag makes it gzip the tar file, hence .tar.gz
[01:54] <dystopianray> phaethon_: intel is the most friendly modern graphics manfacturer
[01:54] <billy> dystopianray: ok.  so long as it's the same sort of deal.  :-)
[01:54] <dystopianray> billy: the -j flag will use bzip2 instead, might end up smaller, but will take considerably longer to compress
[01:55] <priich> matrox still makes cards but they focus on 2d multihead cards for eg banking, stock brokers etc that needs lots of screens but no 3d acceleration-.
[01:55] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay that looks good but that for the ibook... does the macbook use the same touchpad ? of so what section of the xorg.conf do i insert the code?
[01:55] <phaethon_> dystopianray, well my desktop has no onboard video. do they make a pci x video card that'll handle beryl and the occasional game through wine?
[01:55] <pariviere> hi all
[01:55] <Chai_Sangeen> hi
[01:55] <billy> dystopianray: thanks for the tip.
[01:55] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, first backup the xorg.conf . save it as xorg.conf_backup
[01:56] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay
[01:56] <dystopianray> phaethon_: pci-x or pci express?
[01:56] <phaethon_> dystopianray, PCI-X
[01:56] <dystopianray> phaethon_: your machine doesn't have agp?
[01:56] <dystopianray> phaethon_: I don't think anyone makes pci-x graphics cards :S
[01:56] <Mortuis> Is there a way to list what ports are open?
[01:57] <phaethon_> dystopianray, pci x only .. its a brand new mobo
[01:57] <dystopianray> Mortuis: netstat -tulp
[01:57] <pariviere> i've a problem with GtkFileChooser. it shows me hidden files too (the option "Show hidden files" is inactive in nautilus). What's wrong?
[01:57] <`nicola> is there any avant-window-navigator channel for support ?
[01:57] <dystopianray> phaethon_: do you mean pci express?
[01:57] <Mortuis> thanks dystopianray
[01:57] <pariviere> same problem on ubuntu edgy and feisty
[01:57] <phaethon_> dystopianray, apparently so... in the manuel its referred to as pci-x .. whats the diff? :)
[01:57] <frojnd> hello
[01:57] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay its backed up sorry im slow cause of the touch pad lol
[01:57] <jrib> pariviere: right click > show hidden files
[01:57] <tuqann> dystopianray, I still can't see the network-manager daemon
[01:58] <dystopianray> phaethon_: pci-x is a faster pci slot that is found usually only on server systems, pci-express is something different and is on all modern desktop systems
[01:58] <aoirthoir> does anyone know of a way to tell gnome to open windows unmaximised? and at a particular size and place?
[01:58] <frojnd> why is my usb key so slow ?? do I have to install some additional drivers for it? It's (2gb space)
[01:58] <dystopianray> phaethon_: pci express supersedes pci and pci-x
[01:58] <pariviere> jrib: dude!
[01:58] <pariviere> never though to right click on GtkFileChooser!
[01:58] <AliceD> The Matrox Parhelia PCI 256MB is PCI-X compatible
[01:58] <jrib> pariviere: heh maybe that's a bug then
[01:58] <dystopianray> phaethon_: intel don't make dedicated graphics cards yet, however there are many rumours that they'll go into the market with one of their latest graphics chipsets, which are supposed to be significantly faster than the i915 stuff
[01:58] <phaethon_> dystopianray, well most definitly pci express then.. :) works like a charm w/ my nvidia 7600gs, i'd just like to support  a company that provides a card w/ OS drivers
[01:59] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, find Section "Input Device" for mouse
[01:59] <Paddy_EIRE> hello wonderful people of ubuntu
[01:59] <xerox__> hi any tips on how to install Flash Player 9 on 64 bit Linux (fiesty)?
[01:59] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, you can paste your xorg.conf at pastebin
[01:59] <LjL> !feisty > xerox__    (xerox__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:59] <Paddy_EIRE> is there a debian installer for ubuntu in the same vein as the Goodbye Microsoft one???
[01:59] <aoirthoir> Paddy_EIRE: Eire cad  mar at tu?
[02:00] <rambo3> !pastebin | Chai_Sangeen
[02:00] <ubotu> Chai_Sangeen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:00] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[02:00] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, thats what i've been trying to do but it seems down
[02:00] <dystopianray> frojnd: how slow is it? is it usb2 compatible? does your computer have usb2? have you tried plugging it into different usb ports?
[02:00] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, ill try the link the bot sent me
[02:01] <aoirthoir> usb flash drives are always slow.
[02:01] <frojnd> dystopianray: it is very slow, well first 30% are fast and than it goes like forever.
[02:02] <dystopianray> frojnd: how fast and how slow?
[02:02] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, nice pastbin very clean interface :) anyways here is the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11644/
[02:02] <dystopianray> frojnd: is that first 30% of the drive? or first 30% of any given transfer?
[02:02] <pariviere> jrib: yup. thks by the way ;)
[02:02] <Night-Fire> hello
[02:02] <frojnd> dystopianray: well first 30% is done in about 10 sec and other 70% 10-15 min
[02:02] <Night-Fire> i want to be able to play MP3s and listen/talk in teamspeak
[02:02] <frojnd> we are talking about 350mb of data
[02:02] <dystopianray> frojnd: do you get anything suspicious in dmesg while it happens?
[02:02] <Night-Fire> any one solved this issue?
[02:02] <frojnd> dystopianray: stalled..
[02:03] <dystopianray> Nikolas: make teamspeak use alsa
[02:03] <frojnd> and than speed goes like 300kB/s 1mb/s and 30kB/s
[02:03] <dystopianray> frojnd: hrrm strange, is it being mounted with the sync or async options?
[02:03] <Night-Fire> how?
[02:03] <frojnd> dystopianray: usb is mounted when I put it in comp..
[02:03] <Night-Fire> i have xmms using also wich is using /dev/dsp
[02:04] <Night-Fire> and if i make it use dsp1 in teamspeak it blocks offsound
[02:04] <dystopianray> Nikolas: /dev/dsp is not alsa
[02:04] <rambo3>  Chai_Sangeen  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11645/
[02:04] <frojnd> dystopianray: i was thinking about enabling dma
[02:04] <dystopianray> whoops that was meant for Night-Fire
[02:04] <Nikolas> dystopianray, I am not Night-Fire
[02:04] <Night-Fire> also uses dsp
[02:04] <dystopianray> frojnd: you should have dma
[02:04] <N6REJ> does anyone have a compaq 1685?
[02:04] <arruah> hi
[02:04] <dystopianray> Nikolas: sorry, tab completion mixup
[02:04] <arruah> anybody from Kazakhsstan ?
[02:04] <Nikolas> :)
[02:04] <Nikolas> np
[02:04] <Night-Fire> any how can i make teamspeak use alsa
[02:05] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: /dev/dsp is oss, configure xmms to use alsa, and configure teamspeak to use alsa
[02:05] <Night-Fire> xmms is using alsa
[02:05] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay thanx let me try it out and restart x and update u
[02:05] <Night-Fire> but how can i make TS use alsa
[02:05] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: does it have no option to select alsa?
[02:06] <Nikolas> You might have to use either alsa-oss or the kernel oss emulation if you can't configure teamspeak to use alsa
[02:06] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: assuming the teamspeak binary is named 'teamspeak' try this as root (sudo su to get root) # echo "teamspeak 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[02:06] <Night-Fire> theres only three options in TS for sound devices: 1.default (oss/dev/dsp), 2.default network 3.other
[02:07] <pressureman> hi, i've just compiled a custom kernel "the old fashioned debian way", and i've ended up with a gigantic kernel package, about 220MB. the initrd is about 40MB! what have i done wrong?
[02:07] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: try what I said, replacing 'teamspeak' with the name of the teamspeak binary
[02:08] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: running teamspeak through 'aoss' might also work
[02:08] <Chuan> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite.html
[02:09] <AJIEXA_> is there sombody who make from Ubuntu - Kubuntu ???
[02:09] <Night-Fire> the echo command didnt help
[02:09] <Rawh> say what ?
[02:09] <dystopianray> AJIEXA_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <Rawh> that just made no sense at all :)
[02:09] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: you replaced 'teamspeak' with the exact name of the teamspeak binary?
[02:10] <AJIEXA_> dystopianray, yes I kniw that, but I want to ask about this
[02:10] <rambo3> !ro
[02:10] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[02:10] <rambo3> you are dosvidanja ru not ro
[02:10] <Night-Fire> yes
[02:10] <Robe_> How I can set an environment variable?
[02:10] <Nullbyte> Hey, do anyone know why glxgears says this when I run it? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:10] <LjL> Robe_: export VARIABLENAME=value
[02:11] <Robe_> LjL, thanx
[02:11] <morgWork> got a question- http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Running_MediaWiki_on_Ubuntu_GNU/Linux   implies that dapper runs mediawiki 1.7 ... yet on edgy, 1.4 is what comes up- does this make sense to anyone?
[02:11] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: you are lacking direct rendering
[02:11] <Night-Fire> direct
[02:11] <Night-Fire> woops
[02:11] <tuqann> Linux will remain a big box of mystery to me, everything just seemed to work after a couple of restarts :S
[02:11] <Night-Fire> root@davidb-laptop:/home/davidb/TeamSpeak2RC2# echo "Teamspeak.bin 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[02:11] <dystopianray> tuqann: what did you do?
[02:11] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: How do I get that then?
[02:11] <Hadi360> hi
[02:11] <AJIEXA_> Kubuntu and ubuntu use one repositaries or no ???????
[02:12] <jrib> AJIEXA_: yes
[02:12] <LjL> AJIEXA_: yes
[02:12] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: what video card do you have?
[02:12] <nhy> Is beryl in the official repositories?
[02:12] <LjL> nhy: yes but a very old version
[02:12] <dystopianray> AJIEXA_: they both use the same repos
[02:12] <Hadi360> hi
[02:12] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: ATI x800
[02:12] <tuqann> installed:
[02:12] <tuqann> network-manager
[02:12] <tuqann> network-manager-gnome
[02:12] <tuqann> wpa_supplicant (but it was already installed)
[02:12] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: I know, ATI sucks
[02:12] <dystopianray> nhy: not right now, but it will be in feisty soon, afaik
[02:12] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: Especially their drivers
[02:12] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: ah, sorry I know nothing about ati, except that they suck
[02:12] <tuqann> a couple of restarts and the thing started on its own
[02:12] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay i rebooted the latop but it a little better but not normal
[02:12] <nhy> for powerpc?
[02:12] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: ;)
[02:12] <karthick> hi
[02:12] <tuqann> which brings me to another question
[02:12] <Night-Fire> any ideas any one?
[02:12] <dystopianray> tuqann: did you remove everything but 'lo' from /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:13] <nhy> if not than I may create my own repo for ppc
[02:13] <LjL> morgWork, i guess that site is wrong, i see 1.4.something in Dapper and 1.4.something as well as 1.5.something in edgy
[02:13] <AJIEXA_> dystopianray, OK THX that i want to know
[02:13] <nhy> I've built debs for ppc
[02:13] <dystopianray> nhy: I don't see why not
[02:13] <eimajentha1> I have a system running Ubuntu server (ie. no GUI).  When it boots, I want it automatically login to a specified user account, and start a specifiec commandline application.  How would I do that?
[02:13] <nhy> ok
[02:13] <tuqann> dystopianray, whenever I restart my screen goes all pixally with different colors and the machine halts, but it doesn't turn off
[02:13] <nhy> fine
[02:13] <LjL> nhy, try asking in #ubuntu-effects, there they'll probably know what repositories for beryl are out there
[02:13] <dystopianray> tuqann: umm, that is strange, I don't know why that would be though
[02:13] <morgWork> LjL: this doesn't bode well :/
[02:14] <tuqann> I have an ATI card, when I boot the system the splash screen load meter goes one third before it gets disorted then the login screen for ubuntu loads up
[02:14] <LjL> morgWork: well, Feisty does have 1.7 though, and Feisty should be out in April
[02:14] <LjL> morgWork: perhaps there's also a backport...
[02:14] <morgWork> LjL: yeah, I just saw it mentioned on backports
[02:14] <tuqann> so far this hadn't cause a problem, so  I don't care, but the restart is a problem, I didn't try yet shutdown -r now
[02:15] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, try configuring mouse acceleration , and get one of those synaptics programs ksynaptics
[02:15] <LjL> morgWork: correct, there's "mediawiki1.7" (which in feisty is simply called "mediawiki") in the edgy backports
[02:15] <kaptengu> is there any xmms plugin that let's you play mp3s backwards?
[02:16] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay do i just leave the xorg.conf the way u edited or revert it back to the original?
[02:16] <dystopianray> kaptengu: you can use sox to reverse sound files
[02:16] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, leave
[02:16] <morgWork> LjL: yup- gonna run with that.
[02:16] <Night-Fire> any one??
[02:16] <Night-Fire> root@davidb-laptop:/home/davidb/TeamSpeak2RC2# echo "Teamspeak.bin 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[02:16] <kaptengu> great! ty dystopianray
[02:16] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, i mean this is wierd it was working perfectly fine with the previous install
[02:16] <Night-Fire> didnt work
[02:17] <dystopianray> kaptengu: sox can do lots of other thigns too, very nice cli app
[02:17] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, vette fan
[02:17] <shnastybiznastic> So I just installed edgy, and my 9800 pro isn't working.  I followed the directions to get everything running (downloaded fglrx, ran the xorg configurator, disabled compisiting), but it dosent work, worse, even though the fglrx driver is in xorg.conf, glxinfo shows that I don't have direct rendering.
[02:17] <shnastybiznastic> any ideas?
[02:17] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, i'm using gnome so i should go with "sudo apt-get install qsynaptics"
[02:18] <tuqann> I installed my ati x700 using the lastest drivers from the ati page, everything is running smoothly, but every time in the program menu I start ati control it doesn't run and gives me a "child process fireglcontrolpanel" error, any thoughts?
[02:19] <rambo3> sounds right
[02:19] <JonRob> hi, i was in here yesterday asking about the ubuntu livecd and making a few customizations, wondered if anyone might be able to help me out?
[02:19] <ikonia_> JonRob whats up
[02:19] <rambo3> @chuck
[02:19] <dystopianray> JonRob: have you seen this? http://code.google.com/p/reconstructor/
[02:20] <fiqh> dystopianray, is that what linux mint is based off?
[02:20] <tuqann> thanks dystopianray for your help with the network manager
[02:20] <ikonia_> linux mint ?
[02:20] <JonRob> dystopianray: thanks but not quite what i'm looking for
[02:20] <dystopianray> fiqh: I don't knwo what linux mint is
[02:20] <ikonia_> JonRob whats the problem
[02:20] <fiqh> ikonia_: yes.
[02:20] <ikonia_> fiqh what is linux mint ?
[02:20] <dystopianray> tuqann: no problem
[02:20] <fiqh> a distro
[02:20] <tuqann> linux mint? isn't that the linux based off ubuntu that has everything ready out of the box?
[02:20] <fiqh> an ubuntu based distro
[02:21] <JonRob> iknoia: i'm trying to put some custom media on the desktop but there's quite a lot - about 400mb
[02:21] <ikonia_> o
[02:21] <ikonia_> oh
[02:21] <wick2o> good morning
[02:21] <ikonia_> JonRob ok
[02:21] <ikonia_> JonRob and whats the problem ?
[02:21] <fiqh> tuqann: yeah, i thought it was based off reconstructor.
[02:21] <JonRob> so, my plan is to leave it in the root directory of the disc (dvd)
[02:21] <fiqh> I'd like to make an ubuntu based distro
[02:21] <tuqann> I downloaded the image, but got 2.0 by mistake instead of 2.2, so I dumped the idea and went back to ubuntu
[02:21] <fiqh> With some stuff added on
[02:21] <ikonia_> fiqh why ?
[02:21] <JonRob> but i can't symlink to it because it's readonly
[02:21] <fiqh> and some stuff removed
[02:21] <fiqh> how would i go about that tho :P
[02:21] <JonRob> is there a way to mount it?
[02:21] <robe_> I need to use Synaptic Package Manager but I'm behind a proxy that require user and password. Can somebody tell me how to configure it?
[02:21] <fiqh> i mean, making a distro from lfs is easy
[02:21] <fiqh> but how do you make an ubuntu based distro
[02:22] <tuqann> gonna go test my wireless connection, thanks for all the help guys
[02:22] <fiqh> ikona_: because i want my own optimizations
[02:22] <ikonia_> JonRob thats not how the livecd works, it uses a compressed filesystem (based on squash FS I think) you have to modify the uncompresed file system and repackage that so that the cd uncompresses it properly
[02:22] <ikonia_> fiqh no its not - copying the LFS book is easy - creating that book is hard
[02:22] <dystopianray> fiqh: have you tried this? http://code.google.com/p/reconstructor/
[02:22] <wick2o> can anyone recommend a linux program for recovering zip passwords?
[02:22] <ikonia_> fiqh such as ?
[02:22] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, ran the program but it asks me to install the synaptics touch pad drivers
[02:22] <fiqh> dystopianray, yes
[02:22] <fiqh> well no
[02:22] <fiqh> but i will
[02:22] <JonRob> iknoia: yes that's waht i've done...mounted the iso and extracted everything and tried to put the symlinked directory under /etc/skel on the root of the livecd
[02:23] <fiqh> ikonia_: there are things that i'd like to implement.
[02:23] <fiqh> things like pax/selinux
[02:23] <fiqh> and distribute it
[02:23] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[02:23] <billy> whatever you do, don't tar your entire filesystem with other OS partitions mounted.  :(
[02:23] <fiqh> based on ubuntu
[02:23] <ikonia_> fiqh /another/ distro - why not just contribute to ubuntu
[02:23] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, bash: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics: command not found
[02:24] <fiqh> ikonia_: Hmm..
[02:24] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[02:24] <ikonia_> JonRob ok, I don't quite see why its read only if you've modified it before you compressed and package it
[02:24] <fiqh> 'contribute' ?
[02:24] <bulmer> fiqh there is a new book out on creating your liveCD 35 bux if i recall
[02:24] <ikonia_> fiqh yes contribute
[02:24] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay installing
[02:24] <JonRob> iknoia: i think it's because i'm trying to point the symlink to /cdrom/Free\ Culture\ Example\ Media
[02:24] <fiqh> ikonia_: what like, write patches and find bugs?
[02:24] <ikonia_> fiqh impliment selinux for example as an option at install time
[02:24] <JonRob> there's no problem if i point it elsewhere
[02:24] <vladi_here> hi
[02:25] <ikonia_> JonRob Hmmmm thats very strange
[02:25] <fiqh> ikonia_: yeah, maybe.
[02:25] <wick2o> fiqh: white scripts to make remastering easier
[02:25] <ikonia_> JonRob /etc is not even a file system it comes of the root file system, so if root is not read only you should have no problem
[02:25] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[02:25] <Rooy> hi, does anyone know what the key for http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs is?
[02:25] <Rooy> or what's pitti's name?
[02:25] <LadyNikon> i dont even know what that is
[02:25] <JonRob> ikonia: sorry i didn't get that last bit, could you explain?
[02:26] <ikonia_> JonRob /etc is not a mount point, its a dir of / - so if you can write to / its mounted read-write therefore you should not have a problem
[02:26] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen,
 Chai_Sangeen,
[02:26] <rambo3> apt-cache search synaptics
[02:26] <JonRob> ikonia: hmm ok
[02:26] <ca> hi
[02:26] <JonRob> i'll try again and let you know what i get
[02:26] <ikonia_> JonRob please do, I'm curious
[02:26] <robe_> I'm trying to use Synaptic Package Manager but I get the following error "Failed to fetch ..., unauthorized". Can somebody tell me why happen that?
[02:27] <fiqh> well i'm getting the hurd5
[02:27] <fiqh> feisty's hurd5
[02:27] <fiqh> so i can dev on it
[02:27] <ikonia_> fiqh go on then, instead of telling us about it
[02:27] <jrib> Rooy: google for "ubuntu pitti"
[02:27] <fiqh> ikonia: It's downloading friend.
[02:27] <Rooy> jrib: thanks
[02:28] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11647/
[02:28] <lefrenchy> hello people!
[02:29] <Chai_Sangeen> hellooo
[02:29] <billy> -cvzf are standard flags for tar.gz'ing for backup purposes?
[02:29] <lefrenchy> how do you avoid a package to be updated?
[02:29] <jrib> !pinning > lefrenchy    (lefrenchy, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:29] <JonRob> ikonia: i realised what i did wrong
[02:29] <vladi_here> I can choose between 1074x768 800x600 640x480 with gnome's resolution management. What command can do it in the terminal?
[02:29] <JonRob> but now i have a new problem
[02:30] <jrib> billy: the v is optional, "verbose"
[02:30] <dystopianray> vladi_here: xrandr
[02:30] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, does are programs for synaptics driver. I don't know what coude help you there . try : sudo apt-get install libsynaptics0 tpconfig
[02:30] <lefrenchy> thanks
[02:30] <JonRob> btw...quick side note - people in here might be interested to know i've just released an interview with mark shuttleworth at http://questionsplease.org/new/
[02:30] <vladi_here> dystopianray, thanks i'll see
[02:31] <JonRob> ikonia: back to my new problem, because the disc isn't mounted while i'm editing it the folder /cdrom/Free\ Culture... doesn't exist yet
[02:31] <billy> jrib: ok.  i kinda like the verbose.  gives me something to stare at.  and that's how i realized that I had other partitions (with another operating system) mounted, being tarred with everything else.  :-)
[02:32] <ikonia_> JonRob nothing you can do about that
[02:32] <JonRob> do you have any suggestions of how i could achieve my goal?
[02:32] <ikonia_> mount the cd ?
[02:32] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, i guess ill just do a fresh install again i mean the only reason i reinstalled ubuntu is to insure that it a clean install cause i completely ditched osx and my lappy is only running ubuntu
[02:33] <JonRob> ikonia: lol
[02:33] <ikonia_> JonRob you should have a local copy of the cd file systems on your harddisk for editing before making the squashfs packages
[02:33] <JonRob> yeah i do
[02:33] <KeNroM> Hi to all
[02:33] <JonRob> which is what i'm editing now
[02:33] <ikonia_> JonRob ok - so there should be no problem
[02:33] <bullgard4> Netzwerk-Manager-Applet 0.6.4 shows 3 WLANs . Network Administration Tool shows a '-' sign next to 'radio connection'. How can one explain this inconsistency?
[02:34] <KeNroM> i recently got a cd in the mail from ubuntu...and when i place it in my pc to boot
[02:34] <JonRob> how do you mean?! sorry if i'm slow - i think i'm punching above my weight with this project!
[02:34] <ikonia_> JonRob no no its fine, I may be understanding
[02:34] <KeNroM> it is loading from the cd
[02:34] <ikonia_> not understanding I mean
[02:34] <freezey> is there a tool that can edit code for you... the code is in plain text using like nano... i have thousands of files i have to edit and alls i have to do is change the directory... so i am wondering if there is a tool that i can use that will replace certain lines of code for me?
[02:34] <KeNroM> but i would like to install it on my pc hdd
[02:34] <superm1> i've got a cd containing packages that is added to my apt/dpk database via apt-cdrom.  these packages are the same versions as on the repos, but it appears that apt still wants to download them from the repos.  is there a way to change this behavior?
[02:34] <ikonia_> freezey sed
[02:34] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, thanx for all the help and effort u put to make things work i really appreciate it... many thanks :)
[02:35] <KeNroM> anyone?
[02:35] <freezey> ikonia_: what ?
[02:35] <ikonia_> KeNroM click the install icon
[02:35] <ikonia_> freezey use sed
[02:35] <Chai_Sangeen> do you guys recomend if i install ubuntu on my laptop using the desktop cd version of the alternate?
[02:35] <KeNroM> there is none:S
[02:35] <ikonia_> Chai_Sangeen doesn't matter
[02:36] <ikonia_> KeNroM you got a cd from ubuntu.com- and there is no install icon in the top left of the screen ?
[02:36] <KeNroM> let me recheck
[02:36] <Chai_Sangeen> ikonia, okay i guess ill trying using the alternate, thanx though
[02:36] <JonRob> KeNroM could you not run ubiquity from a terminal to get the install?
[02:36] <KeNroM> there is menu
[02:36] <billy> Chai_Sangeen:  if you're certain you want to install, use the alternate.
[02:37] <KeNroM> i see start or install ubuntu
[02:37] <KeNroM> and when i select that and hit enter
[02:37] <KeNroM> it starts the OS
[02:37] <KeNroM> not install it
[02:37] <KeNroM> :S
[02:37] <ikonia_> KeNroM "install ubuntu" installs it
[02:37] <Chai_Sangeen> billy yeah im sure no choice ubuntu rocks!
[02:37] <billy> word
[02:37] <ikonia_> KeNroM how can the OS not be "started" if you see an icon - where do you think that icon is being displayed from.....the OS
[02:38] <Chai_Sangeen> billy, ikonia, i guess ill see u guyz after the fresh install and i hope my touchpad problem gets fixed!
[02:38] <babo> guys, what's the command line touchpad interface called again ?
[02:38] <jrib> babo: synclient?
[02:38] <billy> Chai_Sangeen: there's usually a fix, my man.  good luck!
[02:38] <babo> I've disabled my touchpad by accident, and now it won't work
[02:38] <babo> jrib: hmm
[02:39] <babo> I can't try it until i boot up again. Can you check for me ?
[02:39] <babo> it sounds right ...
[02:39] <Chai_Sangeen> billy, thanx bro...
[02:39] <Miss-Ashi> Hey
[02:39] <jrib> babo: synclient - query and modify Synaptics TouchPad driver for XOrg/XFree86 server parameters on the fly.
[02:39] <babo> jrib: :-) thanks dude
[02:39] <jonaskul> i have 30 gb hdd, how much should i give ubuntu?
[02:39] <KeNroM> i see start or install ubuntu when i hit enter it begins to load the linux kernel
[02:39] <ikonia_> KeNroMok - then let it load
[02:40] <Miss-Ashi> is unbuntu really good?
[02:40] <JonRob> lol yeah, just realised where he is
[02:40] <KeNroM> and the desktop cums up
[02:40] <Chai_Sangeen> laterz..
[02:40] <ikonia_> KeNroM then when it brings up a desktop there is an "install" icon on the desktop
[02:40] <JonRob> Miss-Ashi: despends what you want :D
[02:40] <jrib> Miss-Ashi: a lot of us think so, use the live cd and just try it out
[02:40] <billy> will copying one OS containing partition onto another produce a partition that I can boot into and use normally?
[02:40] <KeNroM> ok
[02:40] <ikonia_> jrib good job you responded I had sarcasm all ready
[02:40] <Miss-Ashi> live cd?
[02:40] <ikonia_> billy no
[02:40] <JonRob> Miss-Ashi a live cd is a disc that lets you try it without installing anything
[02:40] <billy> ikonia_:  darn.
[02:40] <JonRob> runs entirely off the disc
[02:41] <vladi_here> dystopianray, thank you once again: xrandr  -q and xrandr  -s 1 made it.
[02:41] <soundray> billy: when you've copied, you have to adapt /etc/fstab and the bootloader.
[02:41] <jrib> Miss-Ashi: it's just referred to as the "desktop cd" on the download site.  It can be used as a live cd and to install as well
[02:41] <billy> soundray:  that sounds simple enough.
[02:42] <Miss-Ashi> really
[02:42] <Miss-Ashi> what about my drivers/
[02:42] <Miss-Ashi> i hav Dell laptop
[02:42] <aoirthoir> Does anyone know how to make ubuntu open my windows unmaximized and at a certain size and place? (Thank you kindly).
[02:42] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi the livecd sorts it
[02:43] <JonRob> Miss-Ashi - I'd say just go for it with the livecd
[02:43] <inoex135> halo
[02:43] <exs> I'm making the wubi homepage, but I need some help on the CSS. is there any css gurus here?
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> ofcourse
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> thanks..
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> i will try
[02:43] <Andeh> How would i burn the ubuntu cd while running ubuntu?
[02:43] <jrib> exs: #css
[02:43] <billy> soundray: i had the notion of putting my functional edgy on another partition and doing a test upgrade, just to see how it would go, theoretically.
[02:43] <JonRob> Miss-Ashi - cool, ask in here if you have any trouble :D
[02:43] <esperegu> Hi
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> how?
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> email?
[02:43] <exs> jrib:  I'm in there too, just wondeirng if there's additional helpers
[02:44] <robe_> There's a way to download some package avoiding the use of Synaptic Package Manager?
[02:44] <esperegu> what is the prefered filesystem to use?
[02:44] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi email ???
[02:44] <jrib> !apt > robe_    (robe_, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:44] <soundray> billy: it's a good idea, but it involves some mildly risky steps, so ensure that your backup is current.
[02:44] <Miss-Ashi> yeah
[02:44] <JonRob> the same way that you're chatting in here now
[02:44] <Miss-Ashi> if i need ur hel
[02:44] <Pici> esperegu: ext2 or ext3.  I think Ubuntu uses ext3 by default.
[02:44] <Miss-Ashi> help
[02:44] <billy> soundray: just produced it.
[02:44] <Miss-Ashi> oooooooooooo
[02:44] <esperegu> Pici, thx. will use ext3 then
[02:44] <soundray> billy: if you have trouble, join #ubuntu+1
[02:45] <robe_> jrib, How I can do that? I'm new here
[02:45] <Andeh> How would i burn and download the Ubuntu Live CD in Ubuntu?
[02:45] <jrib> robe_: what irc client are you using?
[02:45] <billy> soundray: k.  thx
[02:45] <JonRob> i'm going to go and try and get my ahead around my problem - cheers for the help Iknoia
[02:45] <Andeh> *burn, not download
[02:45] <robe_> jrib, xchat from ubuntu 6.10
[02:45] <ikonia_> JonRob let me know how you get on
[02:45] <JonRob> lol i'll try
[02:45] <JonRob> if you're interested what it's for
[02:45] <JonRob> http://questionsplease.org/freeme
[02:45] <ikonia_> thansk
[02:45] <Miss-Ashi> will i be able to use opera msn messenger and other software on unbuntu
[02:45] <aoirthoir> Andeh:  if yo uare running from an installed copy of ubunut..just right click on the ISO file for your CD and choose write cd..or something like that
[02:45] <JonRob> a dvd/livecd to promote free culture
[02:46] <soundray> billy: will you know what to do with grub?
[02:46] <jrib> robe_: you should have another tab at the bottom that says "ubotu".  If you click on it, you can read the information ubotu sent you about APT.  See it?
[02:46] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi you can read all about ubuntu on http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <Andeh> So ISO burning utilites are already installed, aoirthoir?
[02:46] <Andeh> Yay
[02:46] <aoirthoir> Andeh: yup..so is most everything else you need
[02:46] <Andeh> Good for me
[02:46] <robe_> jrib, yes
[02:46] <Andeh> I know about that
[02:46] <JonRob> cheerio
[02:46] <aoirthoir> Andeh: office apps..music apps..programming apps...apps to create ISOs..apps to make your own cds...dvds...
[02:46] <Andeh> Now whats the most Live Messenger like linux MSN client?
[02:47] <Andeh> Cause gaims missing all the live features, most of them
[02:47] <ikonia_> Andeh amsn or gaim
[02:47] <aoirthoir> Andeh: if you want to burn multisession you will need to get gnomebake or something from the repos
[02:47] <Andeh> i mean it doesnt even have ink
[02:47] <aoirthoir> Andeh: ubuntu comes installed with GAIM from the rip
[02:47] <Andeh> Multisession disc?
[02:47] <KeNroM> thanks for your help
[02:47] <Andeh> I know i am running gaim :-D
[02:47] <KeNroM> it is installing
[02:47] <aoirthoir> Andeh: i hate gaim myself...yes multisession where you keep on writing to a cd until it is full
[02:47] <aoirthoir> gaim = sucky.... but at least it doesnt crash like yahoo messenger does
[02:48] <KeNroM> this is my first time in contact isntalling linux...i`m so friggin exicting:)
[02:48] <robe_> jrib, I've used Synaptic Package Manager to install my package and it work well. But now the network administrator set passwords in the proxy for each user and the Synaptic Package Manager failed to download the package. Do you know why happen that?
[02:48] <billy> soundray:  i was thinking producing an identical kernel title that's used for sda1 (where edgy now is) for sda4, moving the root filesystem.  my vocabulary may be off.  still learning.
[02:48] <Stormx2> Whats the problem with gaim?
[02:48] <aoirthoir> Andeh: a lot of the features of the messengers are Internet Explore Specific..it bites..but you might not get them
[02:48] <dyrne> i didnt know people actually like messenger..
[02:48] <CheshireViking> Miss-Ashi, most software you'd use on Windows has equivalents on ubuntu, I use Firefox for web browsing, Kopete/Gaim/aMSN for MSN access, Evolution for email, Open Office for an MS Office (Word, Excel etc)
[02:48] <aoirthoir> Stormx2: i dont like it..i prefer x-chat for instance
[02:48] <Andeh> From what i know, Windows live doenst work in Wine
[02:48] <aoirthoir> Stormx2: one problem is you are stuck with GTK font sizes..you cant change them
[02:48] <Andeh> Does it work in Crossover Office?
[02:49] <aoirthoir> andeh crossover uses wine..so if it wont work with wine it likely wont work with crossover
[02:49] <Andeh> Oh LOL
[02:49] <soundray> billy: the trick is to place the new title section after the ###AUTOMAGIC... line, so you boot into the old install by default, but can manually select the new one.
[02:49] <Andeh> So what the heck is the difference?
[02:49] <Andeh> Between getting WINE and Crossover i mean
[02:49] <aoirthoir> Andeh: gaim might not have all of the fancy stuff in the others...but it will work
[02:50] <jrib> robe_: did you go to system > preferences > network proxy and set up the proxy including your password?
[02:50] <gary> I'm trying to run X-window application over ssh.  The problem is with my computer, but I don't know what is wrong.  The $DISPLAY variable on the host machine is set to myip:0.0 and I get the following error: Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly
[02:50] <soundray> billy: you will then have to keep that section up to date manually, according to whatever latest kernel you have on the upgraded install.
[02:50] <CheshireViking> Miss-Ashi, you said you use a Dell laptop, which one is it? I've got Ubuntu running on my two Dell laptops with no problems, a Lattitude D400 and an older Inspiron 8100, everything works fine on both of them
[02:50] <billy> soundray:  new title section after AUTOMAGIC.  Gotcha.
[02:50] <aoirthoir> Andeh: as with most things free and open source, support is the main difference. Crossover can make sure that if something DOES work on wine..it WILL work on wine..theyve already set everything up for it
[02:50] <gary> Any thoughts on what may be the cause of this issue?#
[02:50] <shnastybiznastic> okay, the 3d acceleration issue cleared itself up after an upgrade and reboot
[02:50] <Andeh> I know but since yesterday i have received 63 messages along the lines of "Your MSN client sucks and doesnt support this feature"
[02:50] <aoirthoir> Andeh: but if something WONT run under wine...it wont run under crossover either
[02:50] <Miss-Ashi> latitude D600
[02:50] <jrib> robe_: and synaptic also has proxy settings in it's edit menu:  preferences > network
[02:50] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi you can read all about ubuntu on http://www.ubunt.com
[02:50] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi you can read all about ubuntu on http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <aoirthoir> Andeh: msn messenger sux frankly...but thats my (correct opinion):)
[02:50] <Miss-Ashi> Thanks
[02:51] <Andeh> OK, wonderful, now where do i get a clinent that supports INK, WEBCAM and VOICE?
[02:51] <dystopianray> Andeh: the only 'features' you're lacking are crap like those stupid animations that people can send you, and that screen shaking rubbish
[02:51] <shnastybiznastic> I have another question though.  I'm used to using xscreensaver-demo to configure my screensavers, and I was wondering why I can't access the options of the screensavers in the default frontend/
[02:51] <dystopianray> Andeh: what is 'ink'?
[02:51] <dystopianray> Andeh: kopete and amsn support msn webcam
[02:51] <billy> soundray: hmm ... I think I need to do some tweaking.  make /boot its own partition.  setup now isn't too clean, imo.
[02:51] <Andeh> No wonder you arent helping if you dont know what ink is LOL.
[02:51] <soundray> gary: make sure you connect with ssh -X. $DISPLAY should then be set to localhost:10.0, from where the X protocol data will be forwarded.
[02:52] <dystopianray> Andeh: that msn plugin thing that lets you draw?
[02:52] <rsunny> hello everyone.
[02:52] <CheshireViking> Miss-Ashi, the only problems people seem to have with laptops are setting up the display to a normal resolution - both of mine worked straight off, and Wireless access can be awkward, but the Dell 400 worked from installation without any messing around
[02:52] <Zaggynl> Err, I just put my noisy sata disk to sleep with hdparm -Y /dev/sda but now my pc freezes every 30 seconds or so
[02:52] <rsunny> I have a query about configuring a static IPv6 address
[02:52] <frojnd>  I have some problems installing dma.. My usb device is /dev/sdc1 and now I don't know how to start dma. Should I like sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc  ?
[02:53] <Andeh> Oh sorry, some random key combination closed this chat tab
[02:53] <Andeh> Now, kopete supports voice too?
[02:53] <robe_> jrib, I've configured the network proxy in System/Preference/Network proxy but anyway I can't download any package
[02:53] <dystopianray> Andeh: no idea
[02:53] <Andeh> And how is my crappy webcam that hardly works at all going to work on linux?
[02:54] <jrib> robe_: right, how about in synaptic's network settings?
[02:54] <ikonia_> Andeh do you want help with anything or do you want to moan about messager support ?
[02:54] <soundray> frojnd: don't try to set dma on sdX devices. It will not make a difference at best and will cause trouble if you're unlucky.
[02:54] <catxk> how do I autostart (add to session) something that is to be run in terminal, like irssi?
[02:54] <iratik> Miss-Ashi: Ubuntu is currently a popular alternative to microsoft windows operating systems - in many cases it is more powerful and cost-effective than using windows systems ... whether or not to attempt to switch to it depends on what you do -- frankly ... if you are used to just checking email and chatting - it may not be for you - if you are feeling adventrous - there wouldn't be any harm in the live cd... just eject and re
[02:54] <iratik> start
[02:54] <dystopianray> Andeh: you'll have to find out if it's supported by v4l
[02:54] <frojnd> soundray: how else can i fasten USB stick?
[02:54] <robe_> jrib, I've tried there but I don't see the option to set the user and password
[02:54] <Andeh> OK thanks
[02:55] <Andeh> But i dont think anything officially supports it D:
[02:55] <jrib> robe_: ok, I'm not on edgy atm... butunder the Network tab, there is no "authentication" button?
[02:55] <rsunny>  is there a way to assign a static IPv6 ddress?
[02:55] <paljas> Anyone preseeding auto install? I can't get the 'user-account' question being skippen (6.10). I have "d-i passwd/make-user    boolean false" in my preseed.cfg
[02:55] <robe_> jrib, no
[02:56] <Andeh> How do i change my IP address through terminal?
[02:56] <ikonia_> Andeh ifconfig or ip route
[02:56] <dystopianray> Andeh: ifconfig
[02:56] <soundray> frojnd: make sure it's USB 2.0 and connected to a 2.0 port. Then the bottleneck is the speed of the flash memory, which you have no influence over.
[02:56] <Andeh> ifconfig
[02:56] <Andeh> hmm
[02:56] <Andeh> ok
[02:56] <jrib> !aptproxy | robe_
[02:56] <ubotu> robe_: apt-proxy is a program that acts as a local apt repository server for a LAN, only fetching from the internet when required. To set it up see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[02:56] <Miss-Ashi> how can i burn the cd
[02:56] <robe_> jrib, I've tried in the form "http://user:password@server:port" but it doesn't work
[02:56] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi use some burning software on your windows PC
[02:57] <dystopianray> Andeh: what is the model of your webcam?
[02:57] <robe_> jrib, OK, I'll see it right now!
[02:57] <billy> soundray:  besides, I won't need to get into it more than once.  just long enough to see how an dist-upgrade would leave me.
[02:57] <Miss-Ashi> oh k
[02:57] <Miss-Ashi> burn as a data cd?
[02:57] <jrib> robe_: sorry, I thought that was simpler... see this post: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/55599-configuring-proxy-synaptic-package-manager-ubuntu.html
[02:57] <nisse> Miss-Ashi: no
[02:57] <iratik> Miss-Ashi:Many windows pc's don't come with iso burning software already loaded - there are some programs you can download to enable you to do so --- if you get lost it may be a better idea to order the cd... they send free copies out
[02:57] <Andeh> Speed Link Crap-Cam
[02:57] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi its an iso image
[02:57] <Andeh> lol
[02:57] <nisse> Miss-Ashi: google: how to burn image cds with windows
[02:57] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi join #windows for help using windows software
[02:57] <robe_> jrib, Ok, thanx
[02:57] <Miss-Ashi> to australia?
[02:57] <iratik> they ship world wide
[02:58] <iratik> ?i think?
[02:58] <nisse> Miss-Ashi: yes to australia.
[02:58] <Miss-Ashi> really?
[02:58] <soundray> billy: in that case, don't bother modifying menu.lst -- drop to the grub command line at boot with the C key and enter root, kernel, initrd and boot manually
[02:58] <Andeh> OK whats the command to CHANGE my IP, ifconfig just lists boring hardware details
[02:58] <dystopianray> Andeh: man ifconfig
[02:58] <ikonia_> dystopianray beat me to it, lazy spoon feeder
[02:58] <Razor44> Miss-Ashi- use freeware program called infra recorder
[02:59] <Andeh> That lists boring technical details
[02:59] <ikonia_> Andeh then your out of luck
[02:59] <billy> soundray: think a super grub disc will do the trick?  not too keen with the manual boot commands, though I'm not opposed to learning.
[02:59] <Miss-Ashi> thanks
[02:59] <soundray> billy, well, they're the same as the ones you would put in menu.lst
[02:59] <Andeh> Uh, it only says the options on displaying hardware info in more boring ways
[02:59] <frojnd> soundray: how can I do that, how can I check what kind of USB's ports do I have?
[02:59] <iratik> Andeh: i'm not sure if there is a single command to change your ip address - - /etc/network/interfaces contains your ethernet setup
[02:59] <ikonia_> Andeh man ifconfig
[03:00] <ikonia_> Andeh you'll learn how to use the command
[03:00] <Andeh> I did that, that displays options on how to display hardware info in different ways...
[03:00] <iratik> You would comment out the line containing dhcp -- and essentially - yeah... you'd need to just look up how to do it -- save and restart networking
[03:00] <ikonia_> Andeh no it doesn't
[03:00] <ikonia_> Andeh READ it instead of not bother
[03:00] <iratik> interfaces(5)
[03:00] <Andeh> ORLY?
[03:00] <dystopianray> Andeh: actually read the page and you'll discover you can use it to change all manner of options about the interface
[03:00] <billy> soundray:  i'll copy the one for sda1 down then, and replace sda1 with sda4.
[03:00] <Andeh> lol
[03:00] <Andeh> ok sorry
[03:00] <dystopianray> Andeh: YA RLY
[03:00] <cwmajors> Hopefully someone can help here: I have a computer with two NVidia 6600's in SLI mode, and I'm trying to install Feisty herd 5 on it. I get a black screen where I should get the Gnome login prompt. I've followed the instructions to edit xorg.conf to use "vesa" drivers, but the same thing happens. I cannot get the live CD to boot to a graphical interface. However, I can get the KANOTIX distro to boot from livecd, so that may
[03:00] <cwmajors>  be a starting point for someone. Can anyone help?
[03:00] <Andeh> NORLY
[03:00] <Andeh> This is fun
[03:00] <dystopianray> Andeh: buttsecks?
[03:01] <soundray> billy: note the different way in which grub names partition devices
[03:01] <Miss-Ashi> This is Fun
[03:01] <JosefK> tu+1
[03:01] <binary0> ummm
[03:01] <ikonia_> Andeh not with your lazy approach its not
[03:01] <Andeh> That is debatable.
[03:01] <billy> soundary:  (hd0,3), I think?
[03:01] <nisse> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[03:01] <nisse> There you can place an order.
[03:01] <nisse> They should arrive ~3 weeks.
[03:01] <binary0> i'm trying to compile an application, but i dont have any compilers.. what is it i need to install again ?
[03:01] <iratik> lol --- changing your ip address is pretty boring - if you don't like boring things then you won't like changing your ip address - why do something you don't like to do
[03:01] <ikonia_> binary0 gcc
[03:01] <soundray> billy, yes
[03:01] <binary0> i cam across it sometime ago as well
[03:01] <billy> pimpin
[03:02] <binary0> thanx ikonia
[03:02] <Andeh> OK i got it working but it seems that i cant change my IP from this end due to my highly stupid ISP
[03:02] <soundray> frojnd: look through your dmesg output. If the USB ports appear alongside messages about ehci, they are USB 2.0. If they are uhci or ohci, you have USB 1.1
[03:02] <ikonia_> Andeh nothing stupid about that
[03:03] <dystopianray> Andeh: you're trying to change your external ip? of course that isn't going to work
[03:03] <Andeh> Cause afaik, my ip address is ALWAYS 81.205.90.152 no matter what device i use and any attempts to change it fail from ANY OS.
[03:03] <CreepyCrawly> hi guys can anyone have a look at this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11653/
[03:03] <ikonia_> Andeh  you can't change internet addresses
[03:03] <Andeh> Uh...
[03:03] <binary0> ikonia_ : sorted, thanx
[03:03] <Andeh> Twitch twitch
[03:03] <iratik> Andeh: you don't seem to be using DHCP
[03:03] <Andeh> I dont seem to know what that may be, either.
[03:03] <iratik> Andeh: this means you are likely hooked up to a cable or dsl modem and might be the only system on your network
[03:04] <ikonia_> Andeh if you start READING and listening to things you won't make silly comments like that a look silly trying to blame everyone else for your lack of understanding
[03:04] <CreepyCrawly> can anyone help out here ?
[03:04] <Andeh> I'll pretend i understood that and ask more stupid questions.
[03:04] <rasputnik> CreepyCrawly: you need the gnome-window-decorator command?
[03:04] <Andeh> So i would need to go through a proxy to change my external IP, right?
[03:04] <iratik> Andeh: you are assigned an ip address- its pretty boring to change your name too -- and try changing your street address -- they are both similar to changing your IP if you are not using dhcp
[03:04] <ikonia_> Andeh no, and this is not the place to learn about networking, this is ubuntu support
[03:05] <CreepyCrawly> rasputnik, yes i know that what package is ti part of ?
[03:05] <iratik> Andeh: consult #networking
[03:05] <rasputnik> CreepyCrawly: no idea. have you tried googling?
[03:05] <CreepyCrawly> long live freenode :) #ubuntu
[03:05] <Andeh> Great, let's all go to the "learn about networking" channel and continue this conversation there
[03:05] <dystopianray> Andeh: why do you need a new ip? trying to avoid ip bans?
[03:05] <Andeh> Maybe
[03:05] <ikonia_> dystopianray $20 says your right
[03:05] <iratik> does freenode have support for displaying ages next to nicks?  j/k
[03:05] <Andeh> So i would literally need to phone my ISP and ask for a new IP or something?
[03:06] <BlueEagle> andeh: #ubuntu-offtopic is for such things.
[03:06] <iratik> Andeh: probably
[03:06] <rasputnik> Andeh: why do you want a new IP anyway?
[03:06] <Andeh> Crap
[03:06] <Andeh> I dont want a new one, i want to see if i can change it.
[03:06] <iratik> omg
[03:06] <Andeh> oyg.
[03:06] <cwmajors> Could I get some help with an Ubuntu installation question? I like my IP address just the way it is. ;)
[03:06] <soundray> units undisclosed
[03:06] <iratik> you want to see if you can change it?
[03:06] <iratik> unplug your ethernet cord
[03:07] <Andeh> Something like that...?
[03:07] <iratik> then hook it back up
[03:07] <rasputnik> Andeh: how is that different?
[03:07] <Andeh> That... Never... works
[03:07] <billy> soundray: i'd enter it manually like root=(hd0,3) kernel=/boot/vmlinuz2.6.17......  typed out linearly like that eh?
[03:07] <BlueEagle> !ask cwmajors
[03:07] <iratik> nuts
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask cwmajors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <BlueEagle> !ask | cwmajors
[03:07] <ubotu> cwmajors: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <dystopianray> Andeh: does your isp give you a static ip?
[03:07] <Andeh> Ive tried millions of modems and all kinds of IP refresh methods and commands, it is ALWAYS 81.205.90.152
[03:07] <soundray> billy: yes, that looks right
[03:07] <iratik> Andeh: are you running ubuntu ?
[03:07] <Andeh> So probably
[03:07] <cwmajors> I did. Nobody noticed. ;)
[03:07] <Andeh> Yes
[03:07] <cwmajors> Hopefully someone can help here: I have a computer with two NVidia 6600's in SLI mode, and I'm trying to install Feisty herd 5 on it. I get a black screen where I should get the Gnome login prompt. I've followed the instructions to edit xorg.conf to use "vesa" drivers, but the same thing happens. I cannot get the live CD to boot to a graphical interface. However, I can get the KANOTIX distro to boot from livecd, so that may
[03:07] <cwmajors>  be a starting point for someone. Can anyone help?
[03:08] <dystopianray> Andeh: well then you can't change it without contacting your isp
[03:08] <ikonia_> Andeh why do you want to change your IP
[03:08] <billy> soundray: thanks.  here goes nothin'!
[03:08] <Andeh> BRB telephone
[03:08] <rasputnik> Andeh: that's like trying to change your phone number by looking in your cellphone settings. can't be done. move on.
[03:08] <Pici> cwmajors: Feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[03:08] <iratik> Aneh: er... why do you want to "see if you can " change your address
[03:08] <PriceChild> cwmajors, btw SLI isn't supported in Linux yet... you just have to use them as two seperate cards
[03:08] <ikonia_> PriceChild the nvidia binary module does have limited sli functionality
[03:08] <iratik> yeah... like   going to the land lord to change your address -- really...  doesn't ... what are doing.. running from the internet cops ?
[03:08] <dystopianray> cwmajors: try taking one card out and installing, then configuring the nvidia driver, and then put in the second card
[03:08] <rasputnik> iratik: because he's been banned from a forum, I expect
[03:08] <CheshireViking> Andeh, does you ISP give you a fixed IP? maybe thats why it doesn't change
[03:09] <PriceChild> ikonia_, lol "limited"
[03:09] <ikonia_> PriceChild it "works"
[03:09] <iratik> rasputnik: i was thinking banned on everquest or some rpg thing
[03:09] <rasputnik> iratik: yeah, one of those
[03:09] <mzanfardino> is there a way to resize and existing partition?  I'd like to shrink my home partition by say 40gb so I can create a new 40gb partition.
[03:09] <iratik> hey Andeh: if you sign up for a new isp -- even a dial isp .. I guarantee that you wont have the same IP -- there is your answer
[03:10] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell cwmajors about feisty
[03:10] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: what filesystem is /home on?
[03:10] <dystopianray> mzanfardino: the gparted livecd can shrink partitions and do other things
[03:10] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: one sec
[03:10] <CreepyCrawly> meh i f***in hate beryl
[03:10] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly why swear ??
[03:10] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly it just so uncalled for
[03:11] <rasputnik> ikonia_: that's not swearing
[03:11] <ikonia_> rasputnik ***'ing out words is
[03:11] <cwmajors> BlueEagle: I know all about feisty- I'm running it on one desktop computer and my laptop. It's just this other computer that's giving me trouble. :)
[03:11] <BlueEagle> cwmajors: Well then you also know that feisty isn't supported in this channel, right?
[03:11] <ikonia_> BlueEagle genius
[03:11] <CreepyCrawly> ikonia, if i wanted to swear i wouldnt of ***** done that
[03:11] <Pici> !ohmy
[03:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:11] <ikonia_> exactly
[03:11] <rasputnik> ikonia_: i'd call that 'making an effort' - a lot of us curse as a matter of course.
[03:11] <ikonia_> om my !
[03:12] <CreepyCrawly> ikonia, then help me fix compiz
[03:12] <ikonia_> rasputnik how about don't use **** just don't imply bad language
[03:12] <iratik> yeah... its cursing -- but i never did get in trouble for the f asterisk asterisk asterisk n word
[03:12] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly join the right channel and I may
[03:12] <CreepyCrawly> and that is ?
[03:12] <cwmajors> No, I don't. But the same problem exists with Edgy, so I figured the main channel would suffice.
[03:12] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly #ubuntu-effects
[03:12] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: hmmm... well, I installed with the default parameters from kubuntu 6.10.  when I look at the results of mount I only see root (/) and it's ext3.  I thought I had a /home as well, but I"m not seeing it.  Maybe there is a better tool than mount?
[03:13] <mzanfardino> dystopianray: thank you, I wil check that out
[03:13] <iratik> so ... is that all of the questions ?
[03:13] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: nope, that's what you have. default install on edgy doesn't slice up the root partition. In that case you need to shrink everything, which means you'll have to boot off a rescue cd or something
[03:13] <quaal> hey
[03:14] <CreepyCrawly> ikonia, and ?
[03:14] <quaal> i moved my windows serial drive from one serial card to another
[03:14] <quaal> the windows drive was there when i installed ubuntu
[03:14] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly what ?
[03:14] <quaal> and i could boot to it from grub
[03:14] <quaal> i can no longer boot to it on the new serial controller
[03:14] <CreepyCrawly> i joined and ...?
[03:14] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: something like gparted livecd I take it...
[03:14] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly ask for help in there
[03:14] <quaal> is there a way to make grub boot it ?
[03:14] <quaal> or do i need to put it back on the old serial card
[03:14] <CreepyCrawly> Bleh
[03:14] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: I've not tried, but that sounds like your best bet. it's possible to shrink ext3, so you should find a way
[03:15] <dystopianray> quaal: does it actually get to windows at all? or is grub saying it can't boot it?
[03:15] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: trick is to shrink the filesystem, *then* the device
[03:15] <quaal> dystopianray, grub says it cant boot it
[03:15] <dystopianray> quaal: I'd be surprised if windows can survive an ata controller change
[03:15] <priich> well he could try some dhclient magic and say refuse the dhcp server he normally uses. (most ISPs have a bunch.) if he then released and renewed, the odds that he got assigned a different IP should increase.
[03:15] <quaal> like it cant even find it
[03:15] <quaal> dystopianray, hmm
[03:15] <kabtoffe> feisty beta, when?
[03:15] <iratik> quaal: its not there at all
[03:15] <dystopianray> quaal: you'll probalby have to change where grub is looking for windows
[03:15] <iratik> wel... switch back -- that'll work
[03:15] <quaal> i'm guessing grub is attached to a different /dev/name than it is located at now ?
[03:15] <Pici> kabtoffe: Later.
[03:15] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: ok, thank you.  I'm reviewing the gparted livecd site now.  looks like this cd is dedicated to just this issue.
[03:15] <iratik> you have both installed?
[03:15] <kabtoffe> :(
[03:15] <binary0> trying to compile an application, i now get this error :-
[03:15] <quaal> dystopianray, know how to edit grub ?
[03:15] <binary0> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:16] <binary0> any idea ?
[03:16] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: good luck
[03:16] <rdesh> ux
[03:16] <dystopianray> quaal: grub doesn't use /dev/ names, it's seperate from linux
[03:16] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: thank you
[03:16] <iratik> binary0: wild guess.. apt-get install build-essentials     - is  that right ?
[03:16] <quaal> dystopianray, hmm
[03:16] <quaal> dystopianray, what does it use?
[03:16] <dystopianray> quaal: /boot/grub/menu.lst, iirc
[03:16] <rasputnik> binary0: do an 'apt-get install build-essential'
[03:16] <dystopianray> quaal: (hdx,y) syntax
[03:16] <binary0> ah, that was what i was looking for... :)
[03:16] <binary0> thanx all
[03:16] <rasputnik> iratik: sorry, should've looked up
[03:17] <rasputnik> binary0: you'll still need some extra packages - depends what you will be linking against
[03:17] <iratik> nothing to be sorry bout ---  my wild guess clause indemnifies any errors i make
[03:17] <rasputnik> iratik: :)
[03:17] <binary0> rasputnik: ok, lemme get that install done then i'll check whats next
[03:17] <robe_> jrib, That doesn't work :-(
[03:18] <quaal> dystopianray, awesome thankyou
[03:18] <bas> does anyone have an  idea how to rerun the package install from the installer? e.g. i would like to have the lamp suite which the installer offers...
[03:18] <robe_> jrib, I'm downloading the package through "apt-get install"
[03:18] <dystopianray> quaal: how many drives do you have?
[03:18] <quaal> uhh
[03:18] <robe_> jrib, exporting the variable "http_proxy" ;-)
[03:19] <quaal> dystopianray, currently 7
[03:19] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell bas about lamp
[03:19] <iratik> bas : that's not as easy as you might hope -  but is nevertheless easy...
[03:19] <dystopianray> quaal: ah, well you'll have to find out what number to use in grub to boot whichever drive has windows
[03:19] <quaal> dystopianray, right
[03:20] <slimz> anyone know if i can use a live cd to make an image of a winxp nfts drive that can be resotred later?
[03:20] <bas> iratik: ok.. how easy? :)
[03:20] <ikonia_> slimz not really as things like that registry can cause problems, you can "tar" it up
[03:20] <BlueEagle> bas: ubotu should have sendt you a mesasge with a link to the information you probably need.
[03:20] <dystopianray> ikonia_: you'd make an image of the whole partition, not backup the files off the partition
[03:20] <iratik> bas: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:21] <BlueEagle> bas: Unless you are also looking to remove some stuff already installed due to space restrictions et al.
[03:21] <iratik> a couple pages easy : )
[03:21] <slimz> ikonia_ : i was thinking something like a ghost image which can be restored, but i cant ghost to the network with the version of ghost i have
[03:21] <dystopianray> slimz: it's not that easy to do, becuase ntfs doesn't survive being moved around on a drive
[03:21] <iratik> but if you are going to actually use your lamp server-  it'll warm up your fingers
[03:21] <dystopianray> slimz: ntfsprogs has the utility 'ntfsclone' that can safely move an ntfs partition
[03:21] <bas> BlueEagle: ah thx
[03:22] <slimz> dystopianray : you think it could be run from a live session?
[03:22] <dystopianray> slimz: I dont see why not
[03:22] <dystopianray> slimz: maybe partimage can do what you need, that is on the systemrescuecd livecd
[03:23] <slimz> dystopianray : ok ill check it out, im on their website now
[03:23] <slashjamiec> hey
[03:23] <slashjamiec> hey, thought i'd join the ubuntu forums.. Since i've never been here
[03:23] <slashjamiec> i mean ubuntu irc*
[03:24] <slashjamiec> How is everyone?
[03:24] <noobi97> hell hel
[03:24] <noobi97> van itt magyar?
[03:24] <slimz> dystopianray : with this live cd, you think ill be able to get onto a domain to dump the image on a network drive?
[03:24] <epimer> hi guys
[03:24] <slashjamiec> Hey n00bi
[03:24] <slashjamiec> hey epimer
[03:24] <slashjamiec> How are you?
[03:24] <iratik> whats the language suffix for hungarian
[03:24] <epimer> can someone tell me what package i need to use "tunctl"? i'm getting a command not found
[03:24] <dystopianray> slimz: I don't see why not
[03:24] <iratik> thats what n00bi is speaking
[03:24] <elementz> need help installing nvidia drivers:
[03:25] <slimz> dystopianray : this is amazing, thanks man!
[03:25] <elementz> can't get into real console via > 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' - anybody got an idea why it is not working?#
[03:25] <dystopianray> slimz: I'd be surprised if it didn't have samba, or scp or nfs
[03:25] <noobi97> any1 speak hungary?
[03:25] <noobi97> i sad that
[03:25] <epimer> elementz, control alt F1 first
[03:25] <iratik> wow ... aolbonics are universal
[03:25] <slashjamiec> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:25] <epimer> elementz, then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , then run the installer script
[03:25] <Andeh> OK, im back
[03:25] <iratik> you speak any more popular languages ?
[03:25] <slashjamiec> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx to install nvidia drivers
[03:25] <elementz> epimer, thx man
[03:26] <slashjamiec> then sudo nvidia-config
[03:26] <Andeh> for all those of you who still think i WANT a new IP, NO.
[03:26] <CreepyCrawly> what package is gnome-window-decorator a part of
[03:26] <epimer> nobody have any idea about tunctl? trying to get seamless integration with virtualbox working
[03:26] <eyalw> is macbook 64 bits?
[03:26] <iratik> Andeh: i'd like to say some care - but i don't -- you can't get someone to care about something they don't know the motivation behind
[03:26] <slashjamiec> compiz is gnome-window-generators partner package
[03:26] <iratik> eyalw: #mac
[03:27] <dystopianray> Andeh: you're saying you 'need' a new ip?
[03:27] <CreepyCrawly> slashjamiec, i have compiz
[03:27] <slashjamiec> ok
[03:27] <dystopianray> eyalw: core 2 duo is 64-bit
[03:27] <iratik> froflmao
[03:27] <catxk> eyalw: guess you want a more definate answer but yes, I'm pretty sure :)
[03:27] <Andeh> I AM SAYING I DO NOT NEED OR WANT IN ANY WAY A NEW INFORMATION POINTER ADDRESS.
[03:27] <Andeh> Thank you!
[03:27] <slashjamiec> creepyCrawly: do you have xgl ?
[03:27] <CreepyCrawly> yes
[03:27] <rasputnik> Andeh: information pointer??
[03:27] <billy> soundray: boot hanged at the very last.
[03:27] <slashjamiec> umm
[03:27] <CreepyCrawly> it was working fine
[03:27] <iratik> wow.. that probably isn't allowed
[03:27] <Andeh> IP
[03:27] <slashjamiec> yeah?
[03:28] <iratik> its internet protocol
[03:28] <CreepyCrawly> unjtil i got beryl
[03:28] <iratik> is it ?
[03:28] <iratik> yeah... it is
[03:28] <rasputnik> heh
[03:28] <dystopianray> Andeh: IP = internet protocol
[03:28] <CreepyCrawly> then it fscked up
[03:28] <Andeh> Thats what i though
[03:28] <Andeh> But apparently...
[03:28] <fqh> hi
[03:28] <erUSUL> !caps > Andeh
[03:28] <iratik> Andeh: just say whats wrong in a nutshell -- whats the matter ?
[03:28] <Andeh> IALREADYKNOWABOUT!CAPS > erUSUL
[03:28] <lagunaloires> Hi
[03:28] <iratik> wow --- that'll get you kicked out andeh
[03:29] <slashjamiec> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194272
[03:29] <rasputnik> iratik: we live in hope
[03:29] <Andeh> Lol sorry
[03:29] <nhy> what is the default keyboard shortcut to show your desktop?
[03:29] <slashjamiec> try that link for the gnome-window-decorator
[03:29] <Andeh> I'll stop spamming you now
[03:29] <noobi97> what way install the 915resolutiont?
[03:29] <dystopianray> nhy: in kde, ctrl+alt+d
[03:29] <billy> noobi97:  sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[03:30] <slashjamiec> why do you want to edit your bios?
[03:30] <nhy> in gnome?
[03:30] <slashjamiec> nhy: whats the issue?
[03:30] <nhy> never mind
[03:30] <iratik> Andeh: alright - what the matter andeh ?  are you running ubuntu ? because it sounds like you are trying to circumvent something - and maybe you aren't - i'm not accusing you ... but you can't be helped if you are approaching the problem the wrong way
[03:30] <Andeh> Ok, my need to make everyone feel horrible ended now.
[03:30] <Andeh> I'll come back incase i feel like not using google for a bit
[03:30] <slashjamiec> Andeh, do you need help on an issue you're having or not? Everyone here is trying to help, and you're annoying people.
[03:31] <Linuxor> HI, Is there a way to recover delated files?
[03:31] <rasputnik> Linuxor: backups ?
[03:31] <dystopianray> Linuxor: try 'foremost'
 I mean software
[03:32] <rasputnik> Linuxor: sorry, cheap laugh
[03:32] <michaelpo> hi.. how do i edit a config file as root? i have problem accessing my canon a80 camera... "An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device."
[03:32] <bill_> Linuxor: depends on how recently they where deleted, whether there have been writes to the disk, etc.  if you catch it right away you can usually undelete a file or a few
[03:32] <michaelpo> i've looked at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/91250
[03:32] <dystopianray> michaelpo: sudo <editor> /path/to/config
 is it like filerecovery in winxp?
[03:33] <slashjamiec> michaelpo: sudo gedit /path/to/config/file
[03:33] <dystopianray> Linuxor: I don't know about winxp, sorry
[03:33] <Andeh> Hello again
[03:33] <slashjamiec> oh, dystopianray, got in before me.
 IOI thx man
[03:33] <bill_> Linuxor: you should umount the partition ASAP to prevent overwriting it
[03:33] <PriceChild> Andeh, explain your problem afresh to me :)
[03:34] <bill_> Linuxor: then install sleuthkit
[03:34] <Andeh> Ok, i am typing
 what's ASAP?
[03:34] <slashjamiec> as soon as possible
[03:34] <slashjamiec> =
[03:34] <slashjamiec> asap
[03:34] <brianves> Hey there, hope I'm not interrupting.   I'm a complete noob.. anyway I've got Ubuntu Edgy.  and my problem is that my audio balance is very off.  The right side is probably 2 times louder than the left.
[03:34] <bill_> As Soon As Possible, == NOW
 IOI
[03:34] <rasputnik> brianves: there's a balance control in 'gnome-volume-manager'
[03:34] <dystopianray> brianves: for a work around, put your right speaker twice as far away as your left
[03:35] <brianves> very funny
[03:35] <slashjamiec> Brianves: I have/had the same issue. If you're using xmms or something. configure your equalizer.
[03:35] <Andeh> Apparently certain settings in Windows XP limit your internet bandwitdth but this can be fixed using automated scripts that modify these settings in the registry.
[03:35] <Andeh> In other words, does linux have a way to up your bandwidth, because speedtests say my windows up was 200 kb/s and my linux one is 20 kb/s
[03:35] <brianves> how do I do that?
[03:35] <slashjamiec> Mine distort really bad. But the equaliser configuration in xmms works a charm
[03:35] <Orfeous> how do i install kernel 2.6.20 when i have 2.6.20-12 installed?
[03:35] <xNinja> hello
[03:35] <iratik> KiB vs. Kbs ?
[03:35] <Orfeous> there are no linux-image.
[03:35] <slashjamiec> Hey xNinja!
[03:36] <ikonia_> Orfeous you already have 2.6.20 installed
[03:36] <Andeh> the 1024 bytes one
[03:36] <iratik> what speed test are you using?
 thx friend I'll try it
[03:36] <Andeh> and i mean my upload speed
[03:36] <xNinja> i have amd 64/2gb ram/512vga nvidia.....using ubuntu 6.10 or something else ?
[03:36] <Slart> Andeh: I don't think there are any bandwidth limiting settings, by default, in linux.. might be something driver related
[03:36] <josef> whats faster: ntfs or fat32?
[03:36] <ikonia_> xNinja or something else ?
[03:36] <Andeh> i used the same speed test on www.dslreports.com/speedtest
[03:36] <ikonia_> josef ntfs
[03:36] <slashjamiec> Cool xNinja!
[03:36] <bill_> Linuxor: if it's important stuff, i work for a forensics company, but it will cost you dearly :)
[03:36] <slashjamiec> I have similar specs, except i'm running 3gb ram.
[03:36] <xNinja> i am thinking what to use for my desktop
[03:36] <fabiim> i'm trying to read some pdf's , they have some images that are not shown , instead a square is displayed . Someone has some tip on what to do?
[03:36] <josef> thanks ikonia
[03:37] <fabiim> (i'm using evince and acroread )
[03:37] <erfdain> Can anyone help me with setting up the my windows network printer on my Ubuntu client?
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[03:37] <iratik> simply put --- you might try getting a cheap nic card -- most of them work fine with ubuntu
[03:37] <iratik> its odd that there would be any issues at all
[03:37] <Andeh> I used my "slower" usb modem on windows and i had to buy an ethernet modem for linux which works fine on windows too but...
[03:37] <erUSUL> erfdain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[03:37] <ikonia_> iratik either that or its another one of his time wasting questions
[03:38] <iratik> yeah... what the heck man
[03:38] <iratik> these are still in general networking questions
[03:38] <Andeh> So either linux internet is slower (dont think so) or my new modem is crap (dont think so either, costed 50 euro)
[03:38] <brianves> I can set the audio so it's balanced,  but I use music programs..  and when they access the volume.  it reverts to even lock.  back to uneven balance
[03:38] <slashjamiec> Andeh, we're trying to help you. You're annoying people. You have like 10 different questions, changing them each time.
[03:38] <PriceChild> Andeh, "or" the tests you are using aren't accurate
[03:38] <rasputnik> Andeh: or you're using a different browser to do the test, or the testsite is wrong, or...
[03:38] <mike1o> !pastebin
[03:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:38] <PriceChild> Andeh, I think that is the most likely one.
[03:38] <Andeh> Ok, whatever.
[03:39] <slashjamiec> okay :)
[03:39] <slashjamiec> haha, okay.
[03:39] <iratik> just fiddle with it ...   different browsers - actually downloading files and timing them ... do some research into it --- you are frustrating yourself from a conclusion based on not necessarily the most reputable and infaliable source
[03:40] <michaelpo> dystopianray, slashjamiec: thanks... it works...
[03:40] <slashjamiec> You're more than welcome michaelpo :)
[03:40] <Andeh> OK, as for real problems (forget everything else i said earler), Ubuntu isnt getting any input from my microphone.
[03:40] <Andeh> This is NOT hardware related as exactly the same thing works on WinXP.
[03:40] <Andeh> Do i need drivers or something?
[03:40] <slashjamiec> You're more than welcome michaelpo :)
[03:40] <PriceChild> Andeh, usb or standard?
[03:41] <Orfeous> ikonia, ok, but how do i install 2.6.19?
[03:41] <AnRkey> You know the more I work with Ubuntu server and desktop the more I love it
[03:41] <Andeh> I am using my crappy little speakers plugged in a microphone port, this seems to work just fine.
[03:41] <AnRkey> life is so easy now
[03:41] <Andeh> Standard it is
[03:41] <slashjamiec> Yeah
[03:41] <PriceChild> Andeh, Its probablly just muted
[03:41] <slashjamiec> it took me 2 weeks to get used to
[03:41] <Andeh> Ok, how do i unmute it
[03:41] <iratik> u aren't running an HP compaq  built in the last -- i don't know ... yeah
[03:41] <PriceChild> Andeh, right click the volume icon and raise the volume on the mic input
[03:41] <iratik> yeah = year?
[03:41] <Andeh> uh... ok. wait a sec
[03:41] <iratik> are you?
[03:42] <Andeh> Ok its at the top
[03:42] <Andeh> ill try stuff with audacity
[03:42] <iratik> they have this quircky (senseless) audio driver that let's you plug in any plug to any port - and in windows. . it asks you what you meant to plug in
[03:42] <slashjamiec> i test my stuff with xmms, and the equalizer settings.
[03:42] <iratik> try xmms:  open url --  linein://
[03:42] <n33o> helo
[03:43] <Andeh> Nope, no input
[03:43] <slashjamiec> hey neeo
[03:43] <slashjamiec> n33o*
[03:43] <n33o> hi
[03:43] <slashjamiec> Whats the issue?
[03:43] <Andeh> audacity shows a straight line at 0db
[03:43] <Andeh> not even a hum
[03:43] <n33o> Want to get sound working on my install of ubuntu
[03:43] <n33o> finally got it online
[03:43] <n33o> lol
[03:43] <slashjamiec> ok, i'll help you with that
[03:43] <n33o> using DHCP now
[03:43] <slashjamiec> Congrats on that!
[03:43] <n33o> thanks slash
[03:43] <slashjamiec> :)
[03:43] <Andeh> Before my head explodes, what is DHCP?
[03:43] <PriceChild> Andeh, open up alsamixer in a terminal and raise the volume of the port
[03:44] <n33o> im running 6.06
[03:44] <PriceChild> Andeh, automatic ip address assignment
[03:44] <Andeh> OK
[03:44] <slashjamiec> Cool
[03:44] <rasputnik> Andeh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhcp
[03:44] <babo> EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
[03:44] <babo> EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[03:44] <babo> Adding 1959920k swap on /dev/sda3.  Priority:-1 extents:1
[03:44] <Andeh> Oh, volume control
[03:44] <n33o> so how do i configure sound. im using onboard on this pc
[03:44] <Andeh> I just turned it up a second ago
[03:44] <babo> is someone mounting something on my computer ? or is that just a normal startup in dmesg ?
[03:44] <slashjamiec> okay, it should automatically pick it up
[03:44] <erUSUL> ubotu tell n33o about sound | n33o see priv msg from ubotu
[03:44] <rasputnik> babo: that's the kernel mounting the disks
[03:45] <mluser-work> Anybody know how I can add gnome applets to my icewm taskbar?
[03:45] <mzanfardino> what utility might one use to encrypt files? gpg?
[03:45] <n33o> hmmm
[03:45] <mluser-work> Sofar the only one I can find is nm-applet
[03:45] <slashjamiec> you will need to install some codes for the mp3's, either i or someone will get you a link.
[03:45] <n33o> slash im going to look to see if it picked it up
[03:45] <iratik> enable full duplex sound?
[03:45] <catxk> how do I autostart (add to session) something that is to be run in terminal, like irssi?
[03:45] <slashjamiec> okay :)
[03:45] <Andeh> As i said earlier, turning up the mic volume slider doesnt change anything. And it is'nt muted either.
[03:46] <rasputnik> catxk: you make a new application launcher, tell it to run irssi as the command and tick 'run in terminal'
[03:46] <predaeus> Andeh, what sound card have you got?
[03:46] <Andeh> No idea, how can i check?
[03:46] <iratik> Andeh:
[03:46] <n33o> Default sound device says SAA7234
[03:46] <iratik> in the mixer -- are you on playback?
[03:46] <n33o> *7134
[03:46] <EkUmBa> hello
[03:46] <babo> rasputnik: why would the kernel be mounting a disk like that ? It's a dedicated remote server ...
[03:46] <rasputnik> catxk: you can have it run irssi everytime you open a terminal too, but that might drive you mad
[03:46] <CorrosionX> Hey everyone, i'm trying to connect via VNC to a headless server. I'm trying to run tightvncserver but I get this error msg: Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path. Please set correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script. Couldn't start Xtightvnc process.
[03:46] <crimsun> Andeh: have you in fact toggled (selected) an element to Capture?
[03:46] <rmaugusto> hey, I'm using ubuntu edgy and a use keyboard layout cedilha that gives suport to  every time I restart config ubuntu lost the configuration, I have to open Preferences, Keyboard, change keyboard model to Generic 101-key (Intl) PC and after to Generic 105-key (Intl) PC, and it works... any ideia why ubuntu loosing configuration ?
[03:47] <Med-Wei|Sara> Do everyone interest in modifying the theme for another CMS?
[03:47] <Andeh> Capture?
[03:47] <Zic[Laptop] > hello
[03:47] <n33o> It also shows an option for Ensonique PCI sound
[03:47] <iratik> aNdeh : double click on your volume
[03:47] <Andeh> That sounds useful, how do i toggle something to capture?
[03:47] <rasputnik> babo: the kernel mounts the disk so it can read/write from/to it?
[03:47] <EkUmBa> i have some language problem with ubuntu....i have installed a german language version and support,but the  and  don't appear correct
[03:47] <slashjamiec> Cool :)
[03:47] <Zaggynl> since when does ubuntu exist?
[03:47] <Andeh> I am already in alsa mixer
[03:47] <Zic[Laptop] > I have a problem with gnome-panel, since the last update, it refuse to start
[03:47] <brianves> ok,  I feel stupid..  but how is the eq in xmms going to change the balance?  How do I change the balance in the eq?
[03:47] <slashjamiec> it's successfully picked up your sound hardware.
[03:47] <Zic[Laptop] > and bug buddy notice it
[03:47] <crimsun> Andeh: space bar
[03:47] <Med-Wei|Sara> (modifying The ubuntu site theme for another CMS)
[03:47] <slashjamiec> Now, go to your terminal and type: "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad".
[03:47] <Zic[Laptop] > any ideas ?
[03:47] <catxk> rasputnik: ok, thanks, I guess I'll have to make an extra launcher then... where do I put stuff like that? I can't really figure out allt hese folders in my "file system" dir :)
[03:48] <babo> rasputnik: right thanks. I'm wondering why my host is mounting drives to my computer ?
[03:48] <Andeh> Spacebar unlocks the left/right channel sincronisation lock.
[03:48] <iratik> so... (i'm not even sure if your mixer looks the same) --just like in windows. .. you have to switch to record - rather than playback
[03:48] <rasputnik> catxk: do you just want it on your desktop as an icon? i'm assuming that's what you meant
[03:48] <iratik> recording i mean....  you switch to capture ..  - choose the appropriate levels. and make sure capture is enabled
[03:49] <rasputnik> babo: no, look - when your sytem boots, it mounts it's local filesystems. that's what that error is saying. it has nothing to do with network services
[03:49] <Andeh> The only things in capture are Line In
[03:49] <Andeh> Line In is the only option i mean
[03:50] <babo> rasputnik, uname -a should give me the time when the system did it's last reboot right ? I think my host may have taken my system down ...
[03:50] <BrendanM> Help! When I plug in a flash drive it mounts as a "read only file system" it never used to do that. How do I make it mount so I can modify it?
[03:50] <catxk> rasputnik: ah no, I want it to launch when I login... so I go to sys - pref - sessions and add it there, works with GUI stuff like GAIM, but with irssi I get a problem... I guess I could make a launcher and refer to that, but where would I put this icon? (I don't want it on my desktop, don't ask, personal issue :))
[03:50] <iratik> Brendan: some flash drives have a switch that is easy to slip and toggle so the drive can't be written on
[03:50] <babo> BrendanM: mount it with read permissions ...
[03:50] <catxk> add it to start up programs that is
[03:50] <priich> Anyone with experience with xpad.ko ? (I compiled a newer version, insmodded it into my kernel but now i'd like to know if anyone has gotten the rumble feature of the newer xpad.ko to work)
[03:50] <rasputnik> babo: 'uptime'
[03:50] <iratik> i've done that befoer
[03:50] <babo> s/read/write/
[03:50] <predaeus> Andeh, try running alsamixer from a console and switch between it's screens with the tab key. what sound card does alsamixer show in the upper left corner?
[03:51] <Andeh> ALI 5451
[03:51] <rasputnik> catxk: oh, i see. not sure to be honest.
[03:51] <BrendanM> I don't think there's a switch. What's the command to mount it with write permissions?
[03:51] <slashjamiec> $ cat /proc/uptime
[03:51] <Pici> babo: uname -a gives the kernel build time
[03:51] <babo> ah
[03:51] <rasputnik> catxk: (i don't run gnome any more)
[03:51] <Andeh> And the tab key does not switch screens
[03:51] <n33o> says totem could not establish connection to sound server
[03:51] <catxk> rasputnik: ah hehe, ok, thanks though
[03:51] <n33o> when trying to play mp3
[03:51] <babo> rasputnik: hmm ... so someone took my host down, then mounted a sda3 device on it and brought it back up ...
[03:51] <Andeh> Oh, run in terminal
[03:51] <Andeh> i used alt-f2
[03:51] <slashjamiec> n33o: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:51] <Andeh> ok wait a seconds
[03:52] <n33o> slash? any ideas
[03:52] <n33o> ?
[03:52] <babo> Does that seem a little weird, that the host would do something like that without warning ?
[03:52] <slashjamiec> n33o: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:52] <babo> rasputnik, ^^
[03:52] <slashjamiec> And try to play an mp3 in there
[03:52] <rasputnik> babo: no, look - there's nothing odd about that message. /dev/sda3 is the third partition on the local disk. if it wasn't mounted, nothing mould work
[03:52] <aoupi> hi, is there some app that lets me control the volume for individual applications? (like a window with a volume bar for each app)
[03:52] <Andeh> ALI 5451
[03:52] <Andeh> REALTEK ALC203 rev 0
[03:52] <babo> rasputnik, my uptime is only 30 mins
[03:52] <babo> there's something strange about that though ...
[03:52] <Andeh> Ok, so what do i have to do again, im running it in terminal this time
[03:53] <babo> I couldn't take my system down even if i wanted to ..
[03:53] <rasputnik> babo: yes, then it's been rebooted - but nothing odd about the sda3 message per-se. look in /etc/fstab to see where that is mounted.
[03:53] <n33o> says i need to install without verification.
[03:53] <Pici> babo: Perhaps you should contact your hosting provider in this case then
[03:53] <Andeh> OK, never mind, It's WORKING!
[03:53] <Zaggynl> why does the menu in ubuntu dapper take ages to load?
[03:53] <BrendanM> how do I mount the drive with write permissions???
[03:53] <Zaggynl> *click* *hdd grind* *pop*
[03:53] <Andeh> It was audacity's aquard default settings that left the input at 0
[03:53] <slashjamiec> That's weird
[03:53] <slashjamiec> n33o: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:54] <slashjamiec> that will have all your answers to running mp3 files on ubuntu
[03:54] <Andeh> I fixed the input problem, thanks for the help though.
[03:54] <n33o> it does install ... just says cant verify first
[03:54] <babo> rasputnik, what would you do to look for intruders on your system ? I've checked history, netstat and done an nmap scan. Everything seems to be in order.
[03:54] <aoupi> Zaggynl: sounds like your HD was sleeping
[03:54] <n33o> do i wisht to install wihtout verification?
[03:54] <slashjamiec> yep
[03:54] <Zaggynl> hmm
[03:54] <slashjamiec> It just means it's third party repostories.
[03:54] <n33o> oh ok
[03:54] <n33o> ;l-)
[03:54] <slashjamiec> Yeah
[03:54] <slashjamiec> ;)
[03:54] <rasputnik> babo: is the box up to date? do you 'apt-get update/apt-get upgrade' often?
[03:54] <n33o> ;-)
[03:55] <slashjamiec> I'm pretty new to linux myself. But i help out where needed. Only being using it for about a week :)
[03:55] <n33o> ok .. so now its done a bunch of stuff.. does tha mean its fixed?
[03:55] <slashjamiec> Yep!
[03:55] <Zic[Laptop] > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391409&highlight=gnome-panel
[03:55] <slashjamiec> n33o: Did you: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:56] <n33o> I have done apt get for xmms but now hwat?
[03:56] <n33o> *what?
[03:56] <n33o> wondering if that was the problem
[03:56] <slashjamiec> just type "xmms" in the terminal.
[03:56] <n33o> ok
[03:56] <n33o> ;-)
[03:56] <slashjamiec> And open an mp3 file :)
[03:56] <rasputnik> babo: your paranoia does you credit, but as long as you keep everything patched you should only be worrying about things listening on the network
[03:56] <dystopianray> the best way to test sound is $ cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[03:56] <n33o> cool
[03:56] <xNinja> is the new ubuntu beta stable to use or not good yet ?
[03:56] <n33o> how do i create a shortcut to that!
[03:56] <n33o> thaniks
[03:56] <dystopianray> xNinja: the beta is not yet released
[03:57] <quaal> where do i get the hard drive code for grub.. i need to change the setting of a drive since it has moved.. this is the current line in grub for the drive root  (hd2,0)
[03:57] <slashjamiec> n33o: are you using gnome ?
[03:57] <babo> rasputnik: I guess I don't update it as often as I should. I'm adding an update to the crontab as we speak ...
[03:57] <dystopianray> xNinja: and don't consider it 'stable' until the final release in april
[03:57] <n33o> says couldnt open soundcard
[03:57] <n33o> yes am usin gnome
[03:57] <n33o> sound not accessible
[03:57] <nn531> does anyone know why my mailer desklet doesnt come up while my  other ones do?
[03:57] <slashjamiec> Ah, damn
[03:57] <n33o> card isnt accessable
[03:57] <n33o> any ideas?
[03:57] <slashjamiec> Well, i'm not too tech with hardware in ubuntu. Maybe one of these guys could help you out?
[03:57] <rasputnik> babo: no, just do them by hand (about once a week). there's a security advisory mailing list you can sign up to if you want to be told when new fixes are out
[03:58] <babo> rasputnik: why do them by hand ?
[03:58] <Zic[Laptop] > anybody for that : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391409&highlight=gnome-panel ?
[03:58] <viller> where can I find a tutorial for installing Ubuntu (I don't need it myself)
[03:58] <rasputnik> babo: just so you know what changed (for testing etc)
[03:58] <slashjamiec> Can someone help out n33o with installing sound drivers?
[03:58] <babo> rasputnik: the system has come up this time, python-django seems to be parsing php pages all of a sudden, so all my sites are down :-(
[03:59] <babo> I didn't reboot.
[03:59] <n33o> anyone can help with hardware on ubuntu?
[03:59] <n33o> here
[03:59] <n33o> ?
[03:59] <slashjamiec> Sorry n33o.
[03:59] <rasputnik> babo: are you on a VPS?
[03:59] <n33o> ok no prob.
[03:59] <n33o> ;-0
[03:59] <n33o> ;-)
[03:59] <slashjamiec> ;)
[03:59] <brianves> My balance still sucks
[03:59] <rasputnik> n33o: what are you doing ? trying to get a soundcard working?
[03:59] <n33o> yes
[03:59] <n33o> want to get working
[04:00] <babo> rasputnik: I hope not ;-) ... I was on a dedicated server to begin with ...
[04:00] <rasputnik> n33o: what model?
[04:00] <n33o> how do i check what has been detected?
[04:00] <viller> where can I find a tutorial for installing Ubuntu (I don't need it myself)
[04:00] <n33o> I have onboard sound
[04:00] <rasputnik> babo: call your hosting guys up. sounds like they bounced it, so start by shouting at them
[04:01] <babo> hmm
[04:01] <Pici> !install | viller
[04:01] <n33o> find tutorial for installing ubuntu.. try ubuntu.org
[04:01] <ubotu> viller: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[04:01] <rasputnik> n33o: dmesg|less and scroll through looking for any entries that look like a sound card
[04:01] <babo> rasputnik: i emailed them yesterday and they told me that they couldn't talk to me cause I was using the wrong email...
[04:01] <n33o> also.. if pc is newer .. use live cd
[04:01] <n33o> ;-)
[04:01] <glundberg> is there a repository for kernels newer than 2.6.17 ?
[04:01] <rasputnik> babo: get a new provider. that's appalling.
[04:02] <xNinja> what you think peoples....installing ubuntu 6.10 or downloading another one
[04:02] <ikonia_> glundberg no
[04:02] <n33o> strange thing rasputinik.. in my sound options it seems to have detected two sound cards
[04:02] <ikonia_> xNinja anothet what
[04:02] <slashjamiec> 6.10 is pretty adequete.
[04:02] <Pici> glundberg: Nope.  Feisty uses 2.6.20, but its not yet released.
[04:02] <slashjamiec> And very stable.
[04:03] <slashjamiec> xNinja: 6.10 is the most stable ubuntu. the kernel 2.6.20 will be released with buuntu fiesty 7.04
[04:03] <babo> rasputnik: I'm on layeredtech
[04:03] <kaptengu> I get "no MP3 encoding support" trying to use sox. Do I have to compile sox myself with lame?
[04:03] <rasputnik> n33o: maybe it just sees it as 2 - the intel ICH stuff does that on my solaris box
[04:03] <n33o> hmm
[04:03] <rasputnik> babo: give them a call. either they rebooted the machine, or you got hacked
[04:03] <quaal> dystopianray, did you say where i could find the Hard drive code?
[04:03] <dystopianray> quaal: no I didn't
[04:03] <martalli> The absolutely latest kernel is not always all that necessary.  Of all the distros out there, mepis was the first to really handle my intel 3945 wireless well right out of the box (with wpa otob too).  I believe mepis 6.5 is using kernel 2.6.15
[04:03] <quaal> hmm
[04:03] <quaal> anyone else know ?
[04:04] <rasputnik> n33o: if you start 'gnome-volume-manager' from a terminal
[04:04] <xNinja> i was booting the 32bit 6.10 ubuntu but didn`t work well with my amd64....
[04:04] <n33o> preferences > sound > soniqe Audio PCI is there
[04:04] <rasputnik> quaal: you need to know which device is the root device in linux
[04:04] <slashjamiec> xNinja: get the 64bit version of ubuntu
[04:04] <brianves> how can I reinstall my soundcard?
[04:04] <quaal> rasputnik, i'm just trying to edit grub
[04:04] <babo> rasputnik: they don't do phone support
[04:04] <quaal> so i can boot this windows disk that changed serial controllers
[04:04] <rasputnik> quaal: (0,0) means the first partition on the first drive, (0,1) = the second partition on the first drive, etc.
[04:04] <dystopianray> brianves: what exactly do you want to do?
[04:04] <xNinja> all the packages in 32bit is there for the 64 ?
[04:05] <billy> !upgrade
[04:05] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:05] <brianves> or anyway to change left right volumes before alsa
[04:05] <quaal> rasputnik, the current line is root		(hd2,0)
[04:05] <slashjamiec> sd0 is boot by default (ide)
[04:05] <quaal> how do i figure out which hd2 number it is
[04:05] <dystopianray> brianves: change volumes without alsa?
[04:05] <Slart> xNinja: not all packages are available for 64bit
[04:05] <rasputnik> n33o: is there another choice under 'file->change device' ?
[04:05] <brianves> dystopianray my balance is way off
[04:05] <glundberg> anyone have any hanging problems with rebooting?
[04:06] <dystopianray> brianves: ah, I'm not sure how to adjust balance in alsa
[04:06] <rasputnik> quaal: hd2,0 is the third device. where do you want it to boot from?
[04:06] <Slart> xNinja: or rather.. not all packages available for 32bit are available for 64bit.. most noticable is flash, w32codecs
[04:06] <slashjamiec> brianves: try configuring the equalizers in xmms or any other mp3/video view you're using
[04:06] <quaal> rasputnik, thats what i'm trying to figure out.
[04:06] <quaal> how do i know the #'s of the devices.
[04:06] <xNinja> ok but all the 32 packages will work in the 64 ?
[04:06] <rasputnik> xNinja: 64-bit linux isn't a lot of fun unless you have all 64-bit apps. don't use it for the sake of it
[04:06] <brianves> slashjamiec  how do I change the balance in xmms,  will that become permanent?
[04:07] <xNinja> rasputnik,  i have amd64 so what you think to use!?
[04:07] <iacopop> hi all, i think that the app "users-admin" has a bug in user creation
[04:07] <slashjamiec> brianves: yes
[04:07] <peppe-^> anyone from sweden?
[04:07] <quaal> rasputnik, the windows disk is at /dev/sdc1 but not sure what hdx number that is
[04:07] <iacopop> could you try to create an user?
[04:07] <Slart> xNinja: well..  yes and no.. you can run for example 32bit wine on a 64bit os.. but if that 32bit package needs other packages it will need 32 bit packages tehre as well.. so if you use 32 bit flash you have to use 32 bit firefox etc
[04:07] <iacopop> only inserting username and password in the gui
[04:07] <rasputnik> xNinja: for decent 64-bit support? freebsd or solaris.
[04:07] <brianves> slashjamiec  I only get one master volume in the eq
[04:07] <spikeb> actually, there's a wrapper now for flash
[04:07] <glundberg> anyone have any hanging problems with rebooting?
[04:08] <slashjamiec> Brianves: click the top left hand corner of xxms, scroll down to "graphical eq", and then click "ON", then change the settings from there until it sounds good.
[04:08] <dystopianray> Slart: nspluginwrapper allows the use of 32-bit plugins in 64-bit browsers
[04:08] <slashjamiec> ;)
[04:08] <Slart> glundberg: I'm having some problems rebooting.. or rather booting
[04:08] <jos_> hm extra sterio in xmms
[04:08] <xNinja> so you peoples saying to use the 32-bit on my amd64 better ?
[04:08] <spikeb> of course, whenever swfdec 0.4 gets in, or the next stable release of gnash, we wont need flash :)
[04:08] <brianves> slashjamiec  but there's no balance?
[04:08] <spikeb> xNinja, generally yeah
[04:09] <Slart> dystopianray: true..  there are work arounds
[04:09] <rasputnik> xNinja: there's not much point running 32-bit apps with a 64-bit kernel
[04:09] <rasputnik> 
[04:09] <linrunix> j #ubuntu-es
[04:09] <brianves> slashjamiec I'm not looking to change certain freq's.  My right channel is 2 times louder than the left
[04:10] <slashjamiec> brianves: oh, sorry. In the xmms app itself, there is a little bar about 1cm long directly in the center, change that to get the right sound output.
[04:10] <mdasilva> does ubuntu (edgy) support warm swapping scsi drives?
[04:10] <Slart> xNinja: if you want a problem free ubuntu experience =).. and if you don't need that extra performance for.. say 3d rendering
[04:10] <xNinja> i just want the performance on my amd64
[04:10] <Slart> xNinja: if you really want performance.. try gentoo perhaps?
[04:10] <Gasten> Hey, is ther a  way to lower the sound volume on one app, and keep the volume n the other - if the first doesn't have a volume-controll (like if you want to play a game and listen to a podcast at the same time)
[04:10] <n33o> hey slash
[04:10] <slashjamiec> xNinja: Not all "top" systems will have maximum output of power. Multiple things can slow operating systems down, including none/or beta driver support, etc.
[04:10] <n33o> thanks for help
[04:10] <Gasten> ?
[04:10] <n33o> sound working now
[04:10] <n33o> ;-)
[04:10] <mluser-work> Anybody know how to embed gnome panel applets into the icewm tray?
[04:11] <n33o> xmms working
[04:11] <slashjamiec> n33o: You're welcome
[04:11] <dystopianray> Slart: gentoo is not about speed
[04:11] <MarcN> What is the fastest way to get feisty running inside a qemu? Something with debbootstrap or download the ISO?
[04:11] <slashjamiec> n33o: cool!
[04:11] <slashjamiec> n33o: how did you fix it? Using my method?
[04:11] <MarcN> oops, wrong channel.
[04:11] <Slart> dystopianray: oh.. ok.. configurability?
[04:11] <jos_>  gentoo is about teaking flags
[04:11] <jos_> w
[04:11] <brianves> slashjamiec   you rock!!!
[04:11] <rasputnik> dystopianray: it's a lot easier to roll optimized binaries on gentoo though
[04:11] <slashjamiec> HAHA
[04:11] <brianves> thank you!
[04:11] <slashjamiec> brianves: it's my first time on this channel
[04:12] <slashjamiec> brianves: Thanks! helping where needed =)
[04:12] <brianves> 100% all they way to the left balances it
[04:12] <nelo> is it possible to use bchunk without a .cue file?
[04:12] <quaal> rasputnik, any idea how i find the device numbers of a drive ?
[04:12] <slashjamiec> brianves: cool, thought it'd be simple
[04:12] <Slart> xNinja: you can try 64 bit..  I run 64 bit.. I can still run flash.. wine etc.. it's just a little more work to get it to work
[04:12] <dystopianray> Slart: yeah basically, configurability and flexibility is what it's mainly about
[04:13] <xNinja> Slart,  but much more performance ?
[04:13] <slashjamiec> =)
[04:13] <jos_> no
[04:13] <rasputnik> quaal: if i was you, i'd just change them by hand (interactively) until grub finds what you're looking for
[04:13] <Slart> xNinja: I can't really say.. haven't tried 32bit.. don't know what to compare with
[04:13] <quaal> rasputnik, with a reboot after every change ?!
[04:13] <dystopianray> xNinja: unless you have specific apps that take advantage of 64-bit cpus to increase performance, then you will not notice any difference
[04:13] <jos_> no 32 bit 64 bit same in here
[04:14] <dystopianray> xNinja: unelss you have a very specific and good reason to use a 64-bit distro, you'll have a much nicer time with 32-bit
[04:14] <xNinja> dystopianray, i see
[04:14] <bh_> quaal, what do you mean by device number?
[04:14] <quaal> as in the grub line root		(hd2,0)
[04:14] <quaal> hd2 is not correct
[04:14] <quaal> as the hardware configuration has changed
[04:14] <dystopianray> xNinja: if you're expecting some magically huge performance increase, you will be disappointed
[04:14] <rasputnik> xNinja: you need a full set of 64-bit libraries, which you don't get with ubuntu.
[04:15] <quaal> bh_, i dont know what the new hdx is of the drive
[04:15] <dystopianray> rasputnik: ubuntu doens't shopt a full 64-bit distribution?
[04:15] <dennis_> is there some official announcement regarding the delay of the beta?
[04:15] <slashjamiec> Does anyone here other than me run fluxbox?
[04:15] <bh_> quaal, grub start numbering the disks from 0
[04:15] <jos_>  fluxbox no
[04:15] <nelo> is it possible to use bchunk without a .cue file?
[04:15] <dystopianray> dennis_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2007-March/023447.html
[04:15] <quaal> slashjamiec, tried it for a second, then got beryl
[04:15] <dennis_> i heard they tested it the whole day yesterday, they probably had some setbacks
[04:15] <slashjamiec> fluxbuntu is releasing their copy of feisty.
[04:15] <bh_> quaal, so hd(0,0) is the first partition on the first disk
[04:15] <slashjamiec> LIKE LATER DOWN THE TRACK
[04:15] <quaal> bh_, i understand that
[04:15] <slashjamiec> quaal: why ?!
[04:15] <rasputnik> bh_: his problem is there's no way to tell which of his drives is 0.
[04:15] <quaal> bh_, how do i know the number of the disks
[04:15] <Slart> nelo: just get a cue file from some warez game.. they are almost all the same
[04:15] <dennis_> tnx dystopianray
[04:15] <quaal> slashjamiec, i like beryl better ?
[04:15] <bh_> ok I see sorry
[04:15] <slashjamiec> ok
[04:16] <rasputnik> bh_, quaal : trial and error is probably the best way
[04:16] <Slart> nelo: just open it when a text editor first and change the name of the bin there
[04:16] <slashjamiec> everyones unique i guess
[04:16] <Pici> !piracy | Slart nelo
[04:16] <xNinja> aha i see
[04:16] <quaal> damn
[04:16] <ubotu> Slart nelo: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[04:16] <kaouete> hi, when will linux-image 2.6.17.1-50.50 will be released for edgy ? i see that it is in proposed
[04:16] <jos_> beryl works oke nauw in  feisty
[04:16] <nelo> piracy? what are you talking about?
[04:16] <slashjamiec> kaouete: it will be released when it's stable.
[04:16] <quaal> nelo, people are weird.
[04:16] <jos_> vmware to
[04:17] <nelo> i guess, wow
[04:17] <bh_> quaal, rasputnik but you should be able to infer the device number from the bios
[04:17] <jos_> instaling vista in vmware oke kms server
[04:17] <quaal> usually its a windows place when people start freaking out about bin/cue files
[04:17] <kaouete> slashjamiec: i guess :]  but is there any hints on it ? cause i have a motherboard with a network chip supported only by version 50.50
[04:17] <bh_> quaal, unless you have some esoterice setup
[04:17] <jiby> can any one help me with some cool stuff in ubuntu
[04:17] <maynard_> like what
[04:17] <jos_> witch
[04:17] <nelo> I was merely asking about using bchunk, which has been discussed on the forums plenty of times
[04:17] <jiby> i am a new user for ubuntu
[04:18] <quaal> bh_, there are 2 raid controllers (2 drives each) and an IDE controller with drives
[04:18] <rasputnik> jiby: ask away
[04:18] <quaal> i guess i'll just have to guess and check
[04:18] <slashjamiec> kaouete: i don't know much about it, i guess it's still in development and developers aren't releasing much to public. We'll have to wait and see hey. :)
[04:18] <jos_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Stream_Directory_Browser_.28streamtuner.29
[04:18] <quaal> damn this is going to suck
[04:18] <jiby> ya how can we make ubuntu like vista
[04:18] <jos_> jiby
[04:18] <Slart> nelo: I think he meant my comment
[04:18] <kaouete> slashjamiec: ok, thanks for your answers :] 
[04:18] <slashjamiec> kaouete: You're welcome
[04:18] <jiby> hi jos
[04:18] <jos_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[04:19] <jos_> look there
[04:19] <Slart> nelo: I mentioned getting a cue file from "somewhere else".. that other place wasn't appropriate.. my bad
[04:19] <xNinja> ive booted ubuntu 6.10 but didn`t work correctly and takes alot of time...but i'll try again now
[04:19] <jos_> yest cp andt past in console
[04:19] <slashjamiec> jiby: Download windows vista, i don't think i'll ever want my ubuntu looking like it's nemesis.
[04:19] <maynard_> i wish i could make my ubuntu like vista but my computer is so fricken slow it would probably have a heart attack
[04:19] <slashjamiec> i mean, BUY WINDOWS VISTA.
[04:19] <jiby> no sirslashjamiec
[04:19] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:19] <jiby> i dont want to be like that
[04:19] <jiby> but i want it to be better than that
[04:19] <Yggdrasil> what is metacity for ? im stuck in the middle of a fiesty dist-upgrade because of it.
[04:19] <jiby> my friends say i am crazy
[04:19] <nelo> Slart: no problem, thanks for trying to help anyway
[04:19] <jiby> but i like ubuntu
[04:19] <dystopianray> Yggdrasil: metacity is gnome's window manager
[04:19] <eighta> GREETINGS!
 my friends say i am crazy welkom
[04:20] <rasputnik> jiby: what do you want it to look like?
[04:20] <Yggdrasil> i see
[04:20] <slashjamiec> jiby: i cannot help you make linux look like windows
[04:20] <eighta> Someone who help me to install ubuntu via pxe please!!!!
[04:20] <rs8000_> this is an irc question...how do you direct your msg to a user without private msg them? Is everyone just prefixing their messages with "user:"?
[04:20] <priich> peppe-^, yeah
[04:20] <erUSUL> rs8000_: yes
[04:20] <Pici> rs8000_: Yes.
[04:20] <Slart> rs8000_: yup.. tab completion works too
[04:20] <slashjamiec> I'm wondering the same question.
[04:20] <dystopianray> rs8000_: basically yes, mos clients do tab completion of names
[04:20] <jos_> ore in stal vista in linux
[04:20] <dystopianray> most
[04:20] <slashjamiec> I use "user: hey you"
[04:20] <rs8000_> ah I see, thanks
[04:20] <rasputnik> eighta: you need a TFTP and DNS server
[04:20] <slashjamiec> I don't know any other alternate method, can someone assist me if there is?
[04:21] <matt3243> does the ubuntu live cd have any built in apps for repairing ntfs drives?
[04:21] <jiby> well my friends i just want it to look cool thats it so that it
[04:21] <jiby> ya joe
[04:21] <jiby> i am in that site
[04:21] <maynard_> hey does anyone know where i can find new login screens for ubuntu?
[04:21] <nelo> I noticed some referrences to 64-bit Ubuntu earlier, is it more difficult to use the 64-bit version as opposed to the 32-bit?
 i got that
[04:21] <skulrid> hi
[04:21] <Slart> matt3243: i wouldn't count on it.. ntfs is not a linux favourite.. you can read/write with it.. but I've never seen anything that can fix it
[04:21] <jiby> sorry ya jos
[04:21] <jiby> i am in that site
 you known how to do that???
[04:22] <rasputnik> nelo: not really, it's just not worth the bother
[04:22] <josef> how many files can i put on a fat32 drive??
[04:22] <CheshireViking> rs8000_, start typing the user name, and then press the tab key, that should autocomplete the usename to save a bit of typing (it does for me in xchat anyway)
[04:22] <josef> is there a distriction?
[04:22] <rasputnik> eighta: yes.
[04:22] <eighta> i want to intall from my lan
[04:22] <Yggdrasil> well im starting to think it should be called metastity
[04:22] <Slart> nelo: some things require more work.. such as flash, w32codecs and such.. but almost everything can be fixed to work on a 64 bit system
[04:22] <dystopianray> matt3243: ntfsprogs has a ntfschk program or something iirc
[04:22] <matt3243> Slart, i've got a friend that has a XP system thats wacked out, tryin to fix it for him
[04:22] <rs8000_> CheshireViking: got it, thanks!
 how i configure my lan!
[04:22] <eighta> ?
[04:22] <nelo> ah ok
[04:22] <jiby> does any one know how to use lexmark scanner in ubuntu
[04:22] <skulrid> im need some help installing NTFS 3G, cause the URLs seem to be down. anyone knows some active sources?
[04:23] <rasputnik> eighta: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install . first hit on google
[04:23] <nelo> I just ordered a new rig and I choose the AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 5600+ as my proccessor
[04:23] <Slart> matt3243: there are some live cd's that can repair ntfs disks.. perhaps a google for "repair cd" will give you something useful?
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[04:23] <nelo> just worried I was oing to have some issues running ubuntu
[04:23] <dystopianray> matt3243: try systemrescuecd
[04:23] <matt3243> ok well, short of any hardware issues, the last time i tried to mount his HDD i had to "sudo" it, and then i couldnt browse to the directory it was mounted in.... whats the best way to just mount an ntfs drive so i can make sure its still alive?
[04:23] <nelo> going*
[04:23] <prospero999> Anyone know how I can add xgl to the 'startx' script?
[04:24] <dogmeat> how do i deactivate system beep from the gui?
 i read that but still i cant do it!
[04:24] <dystopianray> matt3243: you need to specify a umask option to allow users to access it
[04:24] <eighta> please <rasputnik> help me!
[04:24] <billy> dogmeat:  system>preferences>sound.  last tab.
[04:24] <dogmeat> thanks
[04:24] <matt3243> dystopianray, so "mount /disk /folder umount 'option'"?
[04:24] <matt3243> i'm at work on XP right now unfortunately
[04:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> people, sometimes gaim crashes, does it happen with ya too ?
[04:25] <billy> dogmeat: i like the window only visual beep myself.
[04:25] <eighta> Setup a mirror
[04:25] <matt3243> LaNCeloT_RW, amarok caused gnome to crash for me yesterday, thank god 2.0 is on the way
[04:25] <Slart> LaNCeloT_RW: hmm. I've had about everything else crash on me in ubuntu.. but not Gaim
[04:25] <fqh> Who is a girl in here?
[04:25] <rasputnik> nelo: no,no it'll run fine. it just won't automatically make everything fast
  how i configure a setup mirror!!!
  how i configure a setup mirror!!!
[04:25] <Ribs> LaNCeloT_RW, *all* the time with me
[04:25] <LaNCeloT_RW> gaim crashed yesterday 4 times, while i was chatting =/
[04:26] <bh_> LaNCeloT_RW, the gaim 2.0 betas crashes for me too occasionally
[04:26] <dystopianray> matt3243: mount -o umask=022 /dev/blah /foo
[04:26] <Pici> fqh: Who cares? ->  #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:26] <LaNCeloT_RW> im trying now Mercury
[04:26] <Ribs> LaNCeloT_RW, let me guess... talking to MSN contacts?
[04:26] <matt3243> dystopianray, awsome, thanks
[04:26] <CheshireViking> LaNCeloT_RW, gaim has crashed a few times for me, i tried aMSN, but my webcam crashes that - ended up using Kopete - that works perfectly, no crashes & webcam works fine
[04:26] <matt3243> what exactly does umask do?
[04:26] <rasputnik> eighta: you wanted to do a pxe install, not am mirror
[04:26] <slashjamiec> The gaim 2.0 beta has crashed on me twice, talking to the same user. So i guess the client doesn't support the data he's sending me.
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[04:26] <skulrid> how do I get NTFS 3G? plz help
[04:26] <dystopianray> matt3243: specifies permissions
[04:27] <Ribs> slashjamiec, msn user?
 can we talk in another room or by query
[04:27] <slashjamiec> Ribs: yeah.
[04:27] <quaal_mac> hmm
[04:27] <dystopianray> matt3243: ntfs has no unix permissions, so you must specify them
[04:27] <quaal_mac> looks like i guessed right on the first try
 can we talk in another room or by query PLEASE
[04:27] <rasputnik> eighta: not really mate no. read the howto which does what you asked
[04:27] <quaal_mac> but windows just goes to "Starting up..."
[04:27] <bh_> skulrid, which version ubuntu are you on?
[04:27] <LaNCeloT_RW> well guys, i'll try Mercury, maybe it doesnt crashes....
[04:27] <Ribs> slacker_nl, it's a known bug... gaim crashes with some custom smilies
[04:27] <quaal_mac> I guess XP isnt capable of switching serial controllers
[04:27] <skulrid> bh_ 6.06
[04:27] <dystopianray> quaal_mac: not surprising, windows barely survives any hardware update
 Please help me. i done every on the how to pages
[04:28] <eighta> but
[04:28] <quaal_mac> dystopianray, right
[04:28] <slashjamiec> Slacker_nl: The only bug with custom emoticons i have with gaim, is a interface bug.
[04:28] <eighta> i dont know how to configure
[04:28] <eighta> a setup mirror
[04:28] <eighta> to dowload a ubuntu from my lan
[04:28] <pipe> hi all
[04:28] <eighta> can u undestandme?
[04:28] <quaal_mac> dystopianray,  so.. i guess i'm going to have to try to figure out exactly the same hardware config as i had when it was booting regularly
[04:28] <bh_> skulrid, I seem to recall that the official website for ntfs-3g had a dapper repository
[04:29] <matt3243> dystopianray, ok, so once i run that command, if the drive is alive, i should be able to browse the file structure, otherwise, the drive is most likely dead right?
[04:29] <quaal_mac> or maybe all i need to do is plug it in to the old serial controller
[04:29] <bh_> skulrid, is that not the case anymore?
[04:29] <dystopianray> quaal_mac: plugging into the old serial controller might work
[04:29] <quaal_mac> hmm ok
[04:29] <quaal_mac> thanks.. gonna go try
[04:29] <quaal_mac> once this drive is booted i can backup the fraid partition and then
[04:29] <quaal_mac> windows.. never again
[04:29] <quaal_mac> :)
[04:30] <skulrid> bh_ i dont know, u see im stil starting linux, i just added some URLs to the source list, but they seem to be down
[04:30] <jos_> windows in vmware yest to rip apart
[04:30] <pipe> someone can help me to create a lan    Ubuntu(feisty) <> WinME ?
[04:30] <matt3243> quaal_mac, thats exactly what i want to try with my friend's machine... but he's not very techy, so we'll see
[04:30] <mdasilva> does ubuntu (edgy) support warm swapping scsi drives?
[04:31] <jos_>  scsi  urbuntu google he
[04:31] <merike> could someone help me to get my usb stick working?
[04:31] <jos_> mount -a
[04:31] <merike> I'm
[04:31] <jos_> sudo mount -a
[04:31] <JuJuBee> I just intsalled phpmyadmin on my box and tried the web setup .  It told me to set config/ as writable by the webserver.  What user does apache run as on ubuntu?
[04:32] <ardchoille> www-data I believe
[04:32] <JuJuBee> Ah, thanks
[04:32] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[04:32] <LaNCeloT_RW> damn mercury.. very slow =/
[04:32] <pipe> nobody can help me?
[04:32] <spikeb> LaNCeloT_RW, the java msn client?
[04:32] <AngryElf_> is anyone aware of a guide for installing ubuntu with only a USB-key?
[04:32] <AngryElf_> i.e. network isntall of some sort
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[04:33] <LaNCeloT_RW> spikeb, yes, Mercury is java-based
[04:33] <pipe> i wanna create a lan
[04:33] <spikeb> LaNCeloT_RW, you could probably use aMSN instead
[04:33] <skulrid> bh_ Failed to fetch http://givre.cabspace.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could not connect to givre.cabspace.com:80 (65.175.85.100), connection timed out
[04:33] <spikeb> much faster, and not an eyesore
[04:33] <spikeb> heh
[04:33] <pipe> ubuntu Windows me
[04:33] <jos_>  create  lan urbuntu google
[04:33] <pipe> seen
[04:33] <slashjamiec> pipe: lol, ubuntu windows me
[04:33] <pipe> lol
[04:33] <dystopianray> pipe: you don't have a switch on your modem/router?
[04:33] <pipe> there are many files
[04:33] <LaNCeloT_RW> spikeb, aMSN is nice, but sometimes the chat windows just get grey ... gaim still working, but crashes sometimes
[04:34] <nelo> has anyone here used the Logitech MX 5000 Keyboard & Mouse?
[04:34] <spikeb> ahh LaNCeloT_RW
[04:34] <spikeb> LaNCeloT_RW, so you basically can't win heh
[04:34] <pipe> no
[04:34] <merike> mount -a doesn't work for me, dmesg gives me this -110 error about device not accepting address
[04:34] <eighta> rasputnik
[04:34] <Yggdrasil> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[04:34] <Yggdrasil>   libmetacity0: Depends: metacity-common (>= 1:2.18) but it is not going to be installed
[04:34] <Yggdrasil>                 Depends: metacity-common (< 1:2.19) but it is not going to be installed
[04:34] <LaNCeloT_RW> spikeb, lol ... do u know any other msn client?
[04:34] <jos_> put it oter usb slot
[04:34] <Yggdrasil> :(
[04:34] <CheshireViking> LaNCeloT_RW, have you tried Kopete?
[04:34] <whyarewehere> just a question - are there many PPC users in here??
[04:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> CheshireViking, i dont like kopete... =/
[04:35] <slashjamiec> I love Gaim
[04:35] <n33o> im using gaim
[04:35] <spikeb> LaNCeloT_RW, hmm...gaim, mercury, aMSN, and kopete are all i can think of off the top of my head
[04:35] <spikeb> LaNCeloT_RW, i just put up with gaim's crashes heh
[04:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> CheshireViking, theres no tabbed chat window... and other stuff
[04:35] <slashjamiec> n33o: Yeah, i swear by it :)
[04:35] <n33o> would be cool if it had voip features
[04:35] <n33o> ;-)
[04:35] <unterfranke> Hallo
[04:35] <dimebar> aMSN isn't very good looking
[04:35] <spikeb> dimebar, it's a good sight prettier than mercury messenger heh
[04:35] <slashjamiec> n33o: yeah, but "sudo apt-get install skype" does that
[04:35] <n33o> lol thanks!
[04:35] <n33o> ;-)
[04:35] <slashjamiec> You're welcome, again! :)
[04:36] <AngryElf_> if I ghost a base-install of Ubuntu, and then apply that image to a different maching will it boot up okay as long as they're both i386?
[04:36] <dimebar> spikeb: i agree :)
[04:36] <AngryElf_> *machine
[04:36] <eighta> Who know how to install ubuntu via PXE
[04:36] <spikeb> AngryElf_, probably
[04:36] <slashjamiec> ;)
[04:36] <CheshireViking> LaNCeloT_RW, I don't worry about tabbed windows - after changing, I prefer it - aMSN does look awful, somebody in here said it looked "retarded" when they tried it last week :)
[04:36] <merike> it does the same with all three I have
[04:36] <spikeb> hmm
[04:36] <spikeb> aMSN looks fine on OSX, dunno what its problem on linux would be
[04:36] <bh_> skulrid, check this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[04:37] <dystopianray> amsn is ugly becuase it uses tcl/tk
[04:37] <slashjamiec> spikeb: it looks really chunky, and pixelated
[04:37] <jos_>  Workaround for random device disconnections
[04:37] <jos_> Random disconnection is a kernel bug that is not fixed yet. Some users report randomly disconnecting USB devices, especially external hard drives. One solution is to start the system with the option "irqpoll" in grub, but this doesn't work for everybody, and is believed to make the whole system slower. The other solution is to disable USB 2.0. This will result in way slower read/write, but the connection remains stable.
[04:37] <jos_> To disable USB 2.0, type this in the terminal:
[04:37] <jos_> sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd
[04:37] <matt3243> will the next version of ubuntu include beryl?
[04:37] <CheshireViking> LaNCeloT_RW, i'd go back to Gaim myself, but last time i tried it, it wouldn't work with webcams
[04:37] <LaNCeloT_RW> CheshireViking, I like aMSN, but sometimes it gets grey seems to be a bug
[04:37] <dystopianray> matt3243: beryl will by in feisty repos soon
[04:38] <slashjamiec> I hope the opengl desktop is out of beta.
[04:38] <billy> dystopianray: isn't it already there?
[04:38] <ardchoille> matt3243: Feisty will not have beryl
[04:38] <CheshireViking> dystopianray, I thought beryl wasn't being included in fiesty
[04:38] <billy> dystopianray: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[04:38] <slashjamiec> billy: yes, it's there. But i think he was referring to feisty.
[04:38] <dystopianray> billy: no it's not
[04:38] <eighta> Who know how to install ubuntu via PXE
[04:38] <jos_> [ripping...    ]  Sacred Spaces - This World
[04:38] <dystopianray> CheshireViking: it got a freeze exception or something
[04:38] <eighta> Who know how to install ubuntu via PXE, helpme please!!
[04:38] <dystopianray> billy: not in official repos i mean
[04:38] <spikeb> feisty has compiz :)
[04:38] <dystopianray> compiz sucks
[04:38] <slashjamiec> billy: third party repos
[04:38] <rasputnik> eighta: i sent you a howto half an hour ago. go and read it!
[04:38] <billy> dystopianray: oh.  i see.
[04:39] <jos_> compis no good
[04:39] <eighta> yeap
[04:39] <eighta> but still i don undestant one step!!!
[04:39] <jos_> beryl rules
[04:39] <bh_> does anyone know if the newest xrandr stuff will be in feisty. Or perhaps some repos. I've got a laptop which I often connect to various monitors.
[04:39] <dystopianray> bh_: no, xrandr 1.2 will only be in X.org 7.3, which is not yet released
 why u dont help me???
[04:40] <slashjamiec> I have a moth on my flat screen, and i dont want to squish it. I need to "sudo apt-get flyspray"..
 please!
[04:40] <bh_> dystopianray, ok thanks
[04:40] <spikeb> compiz is beryl's slow moving and much more stable cousin. there's a reason it gets used instead of beryl.
[04:40] <Yggdrasil> slashjamiec take a screen shot
[04:41] <slashjamiec> yggdrasil: of what?
[04:41] <Yggdrasil> the moth
[04:41] <bh_> :)
[04:41] <slashjamiec> yggrasil: i said it was on my SCREEN, the big flat thing infront of me. Not the desktop :P
[04:41] <nnacht_> Hey, can somebody help me with cross compiling?
[04:41] <Yggdrasil> uh
[04:41] <Squillis> morning
[04:41] <Yggdrasil> take a screenshot
[04:41] <dystopianray> spikeb: the reason was due to licensing, beryl 0.2.1 fixed that and now beryl will be in feisty
[04:41] <Safe_> Heh, how can i upgrade all my sources for apt-get? fresh install via VMware, and when i do "sudo apt-get update" it says its just missing everything
[04:41] <slashjamiec> Yggdrasil: it won't show anything, but i'll take a screenshot of my desktop if you wish
[04:42] <Yggdrasil> ok please do
[04:42] <Safe_> well, not everything, but some index files etc.
[04:42] <slashjamiec> kkk, 1 tic
[04:42] <Squillis> my double quote doesn work.. neither does my single quote for that matter.. have a thinkpad t42
[04:42] <merike> I now get ACPI: unable to derive IRQ for device...
[04:42] <shal3r> compiling xchat: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl". Which package i need?
[04:42] <spikeb> dystopianray, but not installed by default.
[04:42] <danchi> i want to know how to install gcc4.1.1 on ubuntu dapper
[04:42] <Smiley2> can someone help me install wpasupplicant, i've tried compiling it with make but i get command not found and i've tried sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant and i get wpasupplicant not found, im using 5.10
[04:42] <dystopianray> spikeb: is compiz installed by default?
[04:43] <nnacht_> Somebody has experence with cross compiling?
[04:43] <bh_> shal3r, try apt-get build-dep xchat
[04:43] <spikeb> dystopianray, yes. it's part of ubuntu-desktop now i believe
[04:43] <dystopianray> spikeb: what about kubuntu?
[04:43] <spikeb> dystopianray, no idea :|
[04:43] <mindeq> hi all please tell me what i should do , i have a problem with gtkmm , i have already installed packages like : libgtkmm, libatk, libpango, libcairo, but still get that gtkmm package was not found , what's wrong ?
[04:43] <spikeb> dystopianray, i dont pay that much attention to kubuntu, as i don't use it other than admining for a friend.
[04:43] <bh_> shal3r, should get you all the needed dependencies
[04:43] <babo> can you download videos from youtube ?
[04:43] <babo> do you have to login first ?
[04:43] <shal3r> bh_, thanks
[04:43] <dystopianray> babo: yes
[04:44] <dystopianray> babo: no you don't need to login
[04:44] <dystopianray> babo: use keepvid.com
[04:44] <babo> dystopianray, where is the download button ?
[04:44] <danchi> anyone let me know how to install gcc4.1.1 on a dapper ? offical source has only ver4.0, what can I do ?
[04:44] <dystopianray> babo: there isn't one, use keepvid.com
[04:44] <slashjamiec> Yggdrasil: my desktop can be viewed at http://jchalktech.info/desktop.jpg
[04:44] <mindeq> hi all please tell me what i should do , i have a problem with gtkmm
[04:44] <mindeq>           , i have already installed packages like : libgtkmm, libatk,
[04:44] <mindeq>           libpango, libcairo, but still get that gtkmm package was not found ,
[04:44] <mindeq>           what's wrong ?
[04:44] <slashjamiec> Yggdrasil: my desktop can be viewed at http://jchalktech.info/desktop.jpg
[04:45] <bh_> mindeq, if its for compiling you need the -dev packages
[04:45] <babo> dystopianray, k thanks
[04:45] <shal3r> bh_, E: Unable to find a source package for xchat
[04:45] <chrisrummy> helllo im super new to ubuntu and am haven difficulty with my video card. ive downloaded the drivers from ati> but it says it cant open the program and when i reser
[04:45] <slashjamiec> spikeb: wut? :)
[04:46] <quaal_mac> ha
[04:46] <spikeb> slashjamiec, hehe
[04:46] <kitche> !ati | chrisrummy this will help you there ids a binary package for it
[04:46] <ubotu> chrisrummy this will help you there ids a binary package for it: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:46] <bh_> shal3r, do you have the deb-src as well as the dep entries enabled in sources.list?
[04:46] <quaal_mac> i just put the windows drive back on the controller it was originally
[04:46] <slacker_nl> hehe
[04:46] <quaal_mac> still just get "Starting up..."
[04:46] <quaal_mac> nothing.
[04:46] <slashjamiec> spikeb: it's unique, and i love it :)
[04:46] <quaal_mac> die windows
[04:46] <spikeb> slashjamiec, i like the wallpaper at least.
[04:46] <slashjamiec> lol!
[04:47] <slacker_nl> slashjamiec: even you :P
[04:47] <spikeb> slacker_nl, it's the lazy tab key!
[04:47] <shal3r> bh_, dunno, i am trying to support user with have default ubuntu egdy install
[04:47] <slashjamiec> slackernl: lol!
[04:47] <slacker_nl> spikeb: yeah, lets blame <tab>
[04:47] <slashjamiec> slacker_nl: lol*
[04:47] <jos_> but what hes dis to do on sex
[04:47] <slacker_nl> :)
[04:47] <slashjamiec> ;)... we must have good nicks then hey! :P
[04:48] <Yggdrasil> jamiec i dont see a moth
[04:48] <bh_> shal3r, ok the easiest way do get the dependences is to enable deb-src and then issue the build-dep command
[04:48] <Yggdrasil> just a flux
[04:48] <spikeb> fluxmoth!
[04:48] <slacker_nl> slashjamiec: lol, sla* ftw!
[04:48] <slashjamiec> lol. i said it was ON THE SCREEN, not the desktop! :P
[04:48] <slashjamiec> slacker_nl: yeah! :P
[04:48] <bh_> shal3r, it will pull in all the necessary packages. But it sounds like you're missing some perl package
[04:48] <spikeb> heh
[04:48] <spikeb> slashjamiec, i tried to take a screenshot of my actual screen, not just my desktop, once.
[04:48] <shal3r> bh_, how this perl package is named in ubuntu?
[04:49] <shal3r> any perl libs or something
[04:49] <Yggdrasil> hehe
[04:49] <bh_> shal3r, try apt-cache search perl
[04:49] <slacker_nl> shal3r: apt-cache search perl...
[04:49] <Yggdrasil> well ive succeeded in totaly screwing up my system here..
[04:49] <slashjamiec> spikeb: lol!! you silly bugger
[04:49] <spikeb> slashjamiec, indeed
[04:49] <`nicola> any avant-window-navigator user ? I compiled the latest svn without error on ubuntu 64 but when I try to start it i have segfault and core dumped
[04:49] <spikeb> Yggdrasil, sweet.
[04:49] <Yggdrasil> Depends: metacity-common (< 1:2.19) but it is not going to be
[04:50] <slashjamiec> spikeb: All hail sla*!
[04:50] <jos_> no
[04:50] <skulrid> bh_ thnks its fine now
[04:50] <bh_> shal3r, or apt-cache search perl|sort -g
[04:50] <bh_> skulrid, good
[04:50] <shal3r> bh_, ok, thanks
[04:50] <clemyeats> join #linuxmint
[04:50] <clemyeats> ohh.. sorry :)
[04:51] <slashjamiec> join #spammers
[04:51] <slashjamiec> jks!
[04:51] <Safe_> what the hell, whats the name of the eterm package?
[04:51] <PetFish> Has the beta been released yet?
[04:51] <Mithrylsword> look in package descriptions ..
[04:51] <clemyeats> just forgot the leading slash.. didn't mean to spam. sorry again.
[04:51] <slashjamiec> clemyeats: i was kidding :P
[04:51] <clemyeats> oh ok :)
[04:52] <jos_>  Music for Candles - The Sound of Silence
[04:52] <merike> jos_, anything else I could try?
[04:52] <jos_> hm usb he
[04:52] <nikosapi> How can I let users on other systems (besides the one I have mysql installed on) access a mysql DB?
[04:52] <jos_> i think is like make dir
[04:52] <jos_> like windows     disk wait
[04:52] <slashjamiec> i only just figured out that xmms is good. I used gxine for ages! This will be the first thing to install for now on.
[04:53] <jos_> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[04:53] <jos_> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[04:53] <rasputnik> nikosapi: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/adding-users.html
[04:53] <jos_> but then for youre usb
[04:53] <chrisrummy> ok i i read the article where do i enter the comands
[04:53] <jos_> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:53] <jos_> edit some lines there i think
[04:53] <slashjamiec> chrisrummy: In the terminal
[04:54] <chrisrummy> thanks will try
[04:54] <slashjamiec> :)
[04:55] <slashjamiec> Wow, 2am here!
[04:55] <dennis_> the beta folder has been created
[04:55] <slashjamiec> cool
[04:55] <jos_> merike> wen i put in usb its oke doint hqave to do shit
[04:55] <dystopianray> yay beta is out!
[04:55] <jos_> is it on in youre bios?
[04:56] <nikosapi> rasputnik: thank you
[04:56] <slashjamiec> April 19th will be the final release date for Ubuntu 7.04 Fiesty.
[04:56] <slashjamiec> April 19th will be the final release date for Ubuntu 7.04 Fiesty.
[04:56] <slashjamiec> Release notes are available from: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-release-dates.html
[04:56] <dystopianray> where are ubuntu torrents?
[04:57] <slashjamiec> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[04:57] <slashjamiec> Thats the ubuntu torrents.
[04:57] <Pici> Feisty Support in #ubuntu+1 please.
[04:58] <merike> now I got confused :S, the same device works great under windows
[04:59] <slashjamiec> Pici: There was so many questions and different stories about Feisty, so i thought i'd tell them the date and link. Didn't know there was a fiesty chan.
[04:59] <slashjamiec> Pici: Sorry again
[05:00] <Stormx2> How much space does ubuntu 6.10 require?
[05:00] <freepenguin> hello
[05:00] <jos_> 5 gb
[05:00] <slashjamiec> isn't it 500mb?
[05:00] <Yggdrasil> hehe think i fixed it
[05:00] <slashjamiec> oh. thats xubuntu. Sorry
[05:02] <slashjamiec> sudo apt-get install LIFE
[05:02] <posingaspopular> Stormx2, about 5 gigs, as jos_ siad
[05:02] <slashjamiec> Thats what i need.
[05:03] <Stormx2> Can I install it on about 4?
[05:03] <slashjamiec> 1.5GB for xubuntu :)
[05:03] <Stormx2> Also, Would it be okay to install ubuntu, then install xubuntu-desktop and uninstall ubuntu-desktop?
[05:03] <slashjamiec> Why don't you just get xubuntu.
[05:03] <spikeb> Stormx2, yes and yes.
[05:03] <Stormx2> The BIOS on this computer I'm installing on sucks. I need to use a boot floppy, and it won't boot burnt CDs
[05:03] <slashjamiec> That requires only 1.5GB of space.
[05:04] <Stormx2> slashjamiec: Read above.
[05:04] <slashjamiec> Stormx2: Sorry missed that part.
[05:05] <Stormx2> Could someone confirm that? Installing xubuntu-desktop then removing ubuntu-desktop would be okay after installing 6.10?
[05:05] <n33o> heya,,, how can i setup tv viewing software on ubunut?
[05:05] <n33o> any ideas slash?
[05:05] <Pici> Stormx2: You should be fine.
 wait
[05:05] <slashjamiec> n33o: Do you have a TV Card?
[05:05] <n33o> im using a phillips chipset tv card
[05:05] <jos_> have tv kaardt
[05:05] <jos_> ?
[05:05] <l500t> alguna persona habla espaol por a ca ???
[05:05] <n33o> ;-)
[05:05] <jos_> tvtime
[05:05] <Pici> !es | l500t
[05:05] <ubotu> l500t: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:05] <slashjamiec> sudo apt-get install tvtime
[05:05] <n33o> no speaka espanola sory
[05:05] <jos_> sudo apt-get install tvtime
[05:06] <jos_> ore kdetv
[05:06] <n33o> thanks jos/
 kost one blow job
[05:06] <slashjamiec> :-o
[05:06] <nubuntu93> can someone tell me how to install a gnome theme? when i drag the tar.gz file to the theme preferences window, it says its not the right format
[05:07] <apokryphos> jos_: what are you doing?
[05:07] <slashjamiec> jos_: HOW DARE YOU. Do not speak like that!!!
[05:07] <jos_> sorry
[05:07] <apokryphos> !language | jos_
[05:07] <ubotu> jos_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:07] <jos_> oke
[05:07] <jos_> i wil never say it anny more
[05:08] <kane__> !language
[05:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:08] <jos_> oke
[05:08] <slashjamiec> jos_: lol, i don't think it's really nice. Someone asking for help, and in return you wanting oral s*x for it.
[05:08] <l500t> does where spanish ???
[05:08] <nubuntu93> can someone tell me how to install a gnome theme? when i drag the tar.gz file to the theme preferences window, it says its not the right format
[05:08] <Pici> l500t: #ubuntu-es
 oke
[05:08] <n33o> can i apt get cablecrypt?
[05:08] <n33o> want to test it.
[05:08] <slashjamiec> Yep.
[05:08] <JonRob> nubuntu93: i think it needs to be tar.bz2
[05:09] <n33o> hmm
[05:09] <n33o> anyone use cable crypt?
[05:09] <nubuntu93> is there another way i can install it?
[05:09] <JonRob> if you extract it and then right click on the folder and create a new archive you can make it into a tar.bz2
[05:09] <slashjamiec> nubuntu93: unzip it, and use the folder in gnome theme manager. maybe
[05:09] <nubuntu93> oh ok
[05:10] <mmoore> hello
[05:10] <nubuntu93> jonrob: that didnt work either
[05:10] <slashjamiec> hey mmoore!
[05:10] <slashjamiec> mmoore: How's things?
[05:10] <mmoore> how are you people
[05:10] <slashjamiec> mmoore: I'm fine :)
[05:11] <JonRob> nubuntu93: perhaps a problem with that particular theme!?
[05:11] <Elko> Is there something wrong with leningradskaya.canonical.com?  I had issues connecting to there with software updates today.
[05:11] <slashjamiec> nubuntu93: try another theme.
[05:11] <nubuntu93> this is the second time it doesnt work
[05:11] <JonRob> where did you get it from? if you give me the url i'll try it myself
 please!
[05:11] <mmoore> any one at school
[05:11] <eighta> Who know how to install ubuntu via PXE, helpme please!!
[05:11] <nubuntu93> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+3d+GDM?content=54834
[05:12] <dogmeat> was going to struggle thru the man page for cdrecord to create a DVD from an iso, but found that the write util started automatically
[05:12] <slashjamiec> eighta: that question has already been answered with a link. Read it :P
[05:12] <eighta> what link?
[05:12] <mmoore> hello
[05:13] <gmuhammed> hello moore
[05:13] <mmoore> what is up
[05:13] <slashjamiec> eighta: I thought someone provided you a tutorial in response to your question. With instructions.
[05:13] <slashjamiec> roof.
[05:13] <rasputnik> slashjamiec: yes, i did. no good deed goes unpunished
[05:13] <gmuhammed> hello hello heloo
[05:13] <JonRob> nubuntu: i think the problem is that it's a gdm theme
[05:13] <eighta> ???
[05:13] <mmoore> where you people from
[05:13] <JonRob> ...which i'm not sure how to install
[05:13] <eighta> tutoria?
[05:13] <gmuhammed> ho are you
[05:13] <nubuntu93> what type of theme should i be downloading?
[05:13] <slashjamiec> rasputnik: Exactly. to understand something you have to read :)
[05:13] <rasputnik> eighta: are you still too busy to read the howto?
[05:13] <JonRob> a gdm theme is one for the login manager, rather than the desktop
[05:14] <nubuntu93> oh..

[05:14] <JonRob> you'll want to look at gtk themes
[05:14] <eighta> i already read that how to
[05:14] <eighta> but still no body helpme!
[05:14] <chrisrummy> for the help but now how do i get my second monitor to work and not mirror the primary one
[05:14] <JonRob> gtk2 themes best
[05:14] <JonRob> and also metacity
[05:14] <nubuntu93> okay thanks
[05:14] <rasputnik> eighta: so you installed a tftp server?
[05:14] <slashjamiec> fluxbox :)
[05:14] <JonRob> no problem :D
[05:14] <rasputnik> eighta: here: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[05:14] <slashjamiec> chrisrummy: What card are you running
[05:15] <chrisrummy> ati x1600
[05:15] <rasputnik> eighta: it's pretty thorough. you do what it says, ok?
[05:15] <n33o> slash .. do you know how to isntall cable crypt?
 thank toy
 thank you
[05:15] <n33o> its not on apt-get
[05:15] <vexati0n> what are the chances of GDM becoming composite-aware and including animation support anytime soon?
[05:15] <n33o> list
 but i want to configure
[05:15] <Stormx2> Have a look at this: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/how_intellectual.mspx <-- to quote "Imagine if anything you thought, made, or distributed could be legally reproduced and freely given away by others."... Wow that's a tricky one billy
[05:15] <eighta> setup mirror
[05:15] <Pici> !offtopic | Stormx2
[05:16] <njal> So i want to run skype, who can help me get my microphone working?
[05:16] <slashjamiec> chrisrummy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=524788
[05:16] <ubotu> Stormx2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:16] <slashjamiec> n33o: cybercrypt?
[05:16] <rasputnik> eighta: then why are you coming in here every 5 minutes asking for a howto on a pxe install????
[05:16] <slashjamiec> n33o: cablecrypt*
[05:16] <eighta> because i need to explain again all
[05:17] <idn> ubuntu is l33tz0rs
[05:17] <slashjamiec> n33o: i wouldn't bother with illegal applications and tv, just concentrate on the legal stuff for now hey :)... I heard cablecrypt was heaps advanced command wise anyway.
[05:17] <Pici> eighta: What is your native language?  We have specific language channels here
[05:17] <slashjamiec> idn: Not as 1337 as your netbound terminology.
[05:17] <eighta> spanish
[05:17] <felix> hi. i am looking for a ssh-monitoring solution on a ubuntu box where students shall develop code but shouldnt portscan. i have tried sebek, ssh-eater and ttyrpld so far. any other suggestions?
[05:17] <incidence> Hey, Does Ubuntu install to a MacBook (It is the one with intel's processor) "normally", I got macbook as a christmas present, but I just don't like the Os X, I've always been using linux
[05:17] <Pici> eighta: Try #ubuntu-es
[05:17] <ferronica> i have downloaded "aqualightblue-1.2.x.tar" from this link ----->"http://download.freshmeat.net/themes/aqualightblue/" I wanna to know how to install it saved it on Desktop :(
[05:18] <nalioth> incidence: you can go for a dual boot macbook
[05:18] <eighta> no one helpme there
[05:18] <incidence> I don't want dual boot
[05:18] <slashjamiec> eighta: try again and be patient.
[05:18] <incidence> cause I think that macbook has some odd bootloader (?)
[05:18] <soundray> incidence: there are various reports of successful installations. Keep a small Mac OS X partition around, in case you have to do firmware upgrades and the like.
[05:18] <njal> Can someone help me set up skype?
[05:19] <soundray> incidence: tuxmobil.org is a good place to lookup installation reports
[05:19] <JonRob> ferronica: open the theme manager and drag the file onto it...
[05:19] <slashjamiec> ferronica: Go to your theme manager, and drag that icon to the theme window. It will do the rest!
[05:19] <JonRob> njal: what do you need?
[05:19] <rasputnik> incidence: yes, it uses EFI instead of a BIOS. everything will in the next year or two.
[05:19] <slashjamiec> JonRob: Fast response. Got in before me! :P
[05:19] <rasputnik> incidence: you tried BootCamp?
[05:19] <JonRob> slashjamic: lol
[05:19] <slashjamiec> :P
[05:19] <incidence> soundray: Ok, thanks.
[05:19] <ferronica> JonRob: i did but it showed me error
[05:19] <njal> JonRob: Well, seems audio output works, I need to get my microphone working
[05:19] <JonRob> what was the error?
[05:19] <incidence> rasputnik: What it exactly is? A bootloader for a mac?
[05:19] <JonRob> njal: what kind of mic do you have?
[05:19] <n33o> can anyone help me install this..
[05:19] <n33o> http://sector17.tvand.net/cabletv/
[05:20] <incidence> I'd still prefer Grub
[05:20] <ferronica> JonRob: i did but it showed me error file format is invalid
[05:20] <n33o> It says its for educational purposes
[05:20] <n33o> :-)
[05:20] <rasputnik> incidence: it's something that lets you boot 'normal' Oses on an EFI box, yes.
[05:20] <soundray> incidence: I have grub on my Mac. I still needed bootcamp.
[05:20] <mtc> Is there a keyboard combination which will free up a frozen system, somthing like ctrl+alt+del
[05:20] <slashjamiec> n33o: It's too advanced for you. :P
[05:20] <JonRob> ferronica: right click on the file and choose to extract it
[05:20] <n33o> lol
[05:20] <Yggdrasil> old world mac
[05:20] <rasputnik> incidence: bootcamp will call grub as I understand it
[05:20] <njal> JonRob: 3.5MM Jack going into the sound card, which the sound card is a VIA 8237
[05:20] <slashjamiec> n33o: just stick to your current tv card.
[05:20] <Safe_> whats the name of the app which allows for searching files?
[05:21] <JonRob> ferronica: and then right click on the new folder and create a new archive, choosing to use tar.gz
[05:21] <JonRob> then try dragging that
[05:21] <incidence> soundray: Ok, but if I mess something up, am I still be able to boot from the mac os x DVD and reinstall it?
[05:21] <Pici> mtc: If your Xwindows session is frozen, ctrl-alt-backspace will restart it.
[05:21] <bh_> Safe_, there are many that do
[05:21] <soundray> incidence: yes
[05:21] <n33o> how do i scan for channels on tvtime?
[05:21] <Safe_> bh_, whats the fastest one? ;D
[05:21] <UltimaDude> hi
[05:21] <n33o> im picking up terestrial from here
[05:21] <UltimaDude> I need some help
[05:21] <JonRob> njal: have you tried checking the settings in the volume control!? double click the speaker symbol at the top right
[05:21] <rasputnik> incidence: bootcamp is written by apple, they suport it
[05:21] <gvx> hmm channel looks busy but is there anyone that can assist me with creating a live cd...I have a second PC waiting to partition...
[05:21] <JonRob> make sure things aren't muted
[05:21] <bh_> Safe_, there are many that are fast and have different feature.
[05:22] <Safe_> i just want to find a .o-file
[05:22] <UltimaDude> I have used the Live CD but I always get a error
[05:22] <Safe_> i dont care how :)
[05:22] <bh_> Safe_, if you wan't to find files there is find, beagle, locate, tracker...
[05:22] <rasputnik> how the hell do i burn an iso to  a cd  on the command line?
[05:22] <incidence> rasputnik, soundray: ok. thanks for your help. The installation now -->
[05:22] <slashjamiec> n33o: tvtime-configure --norm=pal --frequencies=country
[05:22] <UltimaDude> So I tryed using the Windows Installer
[05:22] <ferronica> JonRob: i just double clicked on it and it opened in a new window
[05:22] <JonRob> rasputnik: try man cdrecord
[05:22] <bh_> Safe_, find / -name '*.o' should do it
[05:22] <slashjamiec> n33o: eg: tvtime-configure --norm=pal --frequencies=australia
[05:22] <Pici> rasputnik: Check out the cdrecord manpage
[05:22] <JonRob> rasputnik: sorry i can't be more help but can't remember the actual command
[05:22] <njal> JonRob: Yes, I have, I have also tried to record with audacity and only get tiny barly audable bits of what was recorded
[05:22] <UltimaDude> and I get options for PARTIONAL
[05:22] <ferronica> JonRob: i drag and dropped in theme manager same error
[05:22] <rasputnik> JonRob: have you ever read it? it's complete gibberish
[05:22] <UltimaDude> PARTIAL*
[05:23] <UltimaDude> Help?
[05:23] <slashjamiec> l(
[05:23] <slashjamiec> ;)*
[05:23] <bh_> Safe_, if it's in your homedir you can do find $HOME/ -name 'name.o'
[05:23] <UltimaDude> Hello?
[05:23] <apokryphos> Yes, Feisty Beta is now out :)
[05:23] <JonRob> njal: run alsamixer from the command line
[05:23] <Safe_> bh_, thank you.
[05:23] <UltimaDude> I'm getting this Partial error on Feisty Beta Windows Installer error
[05:23] <JonRob> there's a micboost option in theresomewhere
[05:24] <JonRob> use tab and the arrow keys to navigate
[05:24] <ferronica> JonRob: So what to do????
[05:24] <Pici> UltimaDude: Feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[05:24] <mtc> Pici: ctrl-alt-backspace has no effect.
[05:24] <slashjamiec> n330: Did it work ?
[05:24] <bh_> Safe_, sure
[05:24] <JonRob> ferronica: did you create a new archive of the extractd files?
[05:24] <Pici> mtc: What about ctrl-alt-F1 ?
[05:24] <gvx> is there anyone that can assist me with creating a live cd...is there a step by step webpage...
[05:24] <ferronica> JonRob: yes you mean tar.gz
[05:24] <njal> JonRob: Yup looking at it
[05:24] <slashjamiec> ctrl+alt+f1 will send you to the terminal.
[05:24] <ferronica> i did
[05:24] <Pici> gvx: You want to roll your own live cd?
[05:24] <UltimaDude> Is there anyway to mount the Live CD to my computer?
[05:25] <UltimaDude> Then run it?
[05:25] <dystopianray> is it ok if I post a digg submission about fiesty fawn 7.04 beta in here?
[05:25] <JonRob> njal: try turning the micboost option on
[05:25] <slashjamiec> UltimaDude: install it :P
[05:25] <posingaspopular> UltimaDude, what do you mean by mount?
[05:25] <JonRob> ferronica: yes
[05:25] <ferronica> JonRob: i did
[05:25] <gvx> Pici: yeah
[05:25] <UltimaDude> mount the disk onto a computer
[05:25] <UltimaDude> by making it not really there
[05:25] <Syco> hey guys, I recently upgraded video cards from ATI 9600pro to Nvidia 6800GT, I tried using envy to install new drivers to no avail, tried a few howtos to no avail so I downloaded the drivers from nvidia and when I go to install them it crashes out after compiling a kernel interface with "nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module" and "-> Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko':   -1 Invalid module format"
[05:25] <UltimaDude> but the computer see's it
[05:25] <gvx> Pici: wanted to include java, flash, mp3..
[05:25] <JonRob> rasputnik: near the bottom of this page is the command to use
[05:25] <Syco> I've been googleing but nothing seems to be helping
[05:25] <njal> JonRob: How, spacebar and return dont do anything?
[05:25] <ferronica> JonRob: now what to do
[05:25] <Pici> gvx: Hmmm. I think I have a link somewhere, hold on
[05:25] <n33o> how do i tune tvtimes?
[05:25] <soundray> UltimaDude: something like this is possible with virtualization software
[05:26] <slashjamiec> Syco: Sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, then execute sudo nvidia-configure
[05:26] <JonRob> rasputnik: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom /path/to/iso
[05:26] <UltimaDude> Though it needs to be able to reboot
[05:26] <UltimaDude> and see itr
[05:26] <UltimaDude> it*
[05:26] <JonRob> ferronica: what was the url where you got the theme? i'll try it myself
[05:26] <slashjamiec> UltimaDude: So you want to write a cd to it's own /boot. Impossible.
[05:26] <JonRob> njal: two secs :[
[05:26] <JonRob> :p
[05:26] <mtc> Pici - ctrl+alt+f1 has no effect. Is there a set of keystrokes which will take me to the command line so that I can do a safe rebbot.
[05:26] <dystopianray> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_7_04_Feisty_Fawn_Beta
[05:26] <rdesh> dudebuntu
[05:26] <Syco> slashjamiec: when I run the apt-get I get a "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" error
[05:27] <slashjamiec> hm.
[05:27] <JonRob> njal: try using the up arrow key!?
[05:27] <slashjamiec> Syco: 1 tic
[05:27] <Syco> slashjamiec: thanks
[05:27] <soundray> n33o: there is a program called tvtime-scanner, and it has a manpage (don't know if this helps, I use vdr)
[05:27] <UltimaDude> So I will have to QEMU it?
[05:27] <njal> JonRob: Nope, hasn't worked
[05:27] <secion8> How do I check which version I am running?
[05:27] <UltimaDude> Or is it possible to use it with Microsoft Virtual PC 2007?
[05:27] <secion8> apt-get dist-upgrade retruns nothing to update
[05:28] <JonRob> njal: sorry i'm not sure what else to suggest
[05:28] <Syco> mtc try ctrl alt f9 then ctrl alt f1
[05:28] <slashjamiec> Syco: try sudo apt-get clean, and then sudo apt-get distt-upgrade
[05:28] <n33o> soundray whats vdr?
[05:28] <slashjamiec> Syco: Sounds look like your boot partition is full!
[05:28] <soundray> UltimaDude: it's probably easier to try than to wait for an answer here.
[05:28] <texagg01> If I have already installed Ubuntu and I would like to upgrade my RAM, is there anything that I have do to other than just installing the hardware?
[05:28] <soundray> !vdr | n33o
[05:28] <UltimaDude> Can I ask a thing?
[05:28] <ubotu> n33o: vdr: Video Disk Recorder for DVB cards. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.0-2 (edgy), package size 693 kB, installed size 2108 kB
[05:28] <njal> JonRob: How do we get skype working, seems such a nightmare to get working
[05:28] <ferronica> JonRob: http://download.freshmeat.net/themes/aqualightblue/
[05:28] <UltimaDude> I do try
[05:28] <UltimaDude> It doesn't work
[05:28] <n33o> hmm
[05:28] <UltimaDude> I need a way to use Ubuntu without CD
[05:28] <n33o> Im using an old phillips chipset tv card..
[05:28] <bh_> texagg01, no dont' think so
[05:29] <Pici> mtc: Ctrl-alt-f1 should have brought you to a terminal, I think you may have to do a hard reboot.
[05:29] <mtc> Nope. Seems like the keyboard + mouse is completely frozen
[05:29] <UltimaDude> though Windows Installer doesn't work properly
[05:29] <JonRob> njal: i know what you mean - i've found using a usb mic works very well!
[05:29] <UltimaDude> I get a Partial erorr on it
[05:29] <ferronica> JonRo: http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/aqualightblue/
[05:29] <n33o> not really much of a dvb card
[05:29] <slashjamiec> Syco: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21672 will help you with all your answers with having a full /boot partition.
[05:29] <apokryphos> !install | UltimaDude
[05:29] <ubotu> UltimaDude: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:29] <Pici> gvx: Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06 , its a bit complicated though.
[05:29] <njal> JonRob: Can you suggest one?
[05:29] <soundray> UltimaDude: there are also several hints on the install wiki page ^
[05:29] <slashjamiec> Syco: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21672 will help you with all your answers with having a full /boot partition.
[05:29] <Syco> slashjamiec: it shouldn't be
[05:29] <texagg01> I didn't think I had to do anything, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing anything obvious
[05:29] <bh_> texagg01, just install the ram and boot
[05:29] <n33o> Card supposed to pickup old analog signals
[05:29] <JonRob> usb mic?
[05:29] <n33o> not too sure about dvb tech
[05:29] <texagg01> bh: thanks!
[05:29] <JonRob> two secs and i'll check what mine is
[05:29] <slashjamiec> Syco: Check out the link i sent you, to see whether it is or not.
[05:29] <soundray> n33o: man tvtime-scanner
[05:30] <JonRob> njal: i have a logitch
[05:30] <JonRob> just a cheapish one
[05:30] <JonRob> not sure which model
[05:30] <UltimaDude> I don't have any floppy's though :(
[05:30] <Syco> slashjamiec: yeah I am now, thanks
[05:30] <njal> JonRob: Plug and play job?
[05:30] <slashjamiec> Syco: you're welcome
[05:30] <soundray> UltimaDude: go through that page, you will find something that fits.
[05:31] <slashjamiec> I'm going to bed. It's 3am. Thanks everybody! Cya's all when i wake up really early!
[05:31] <gvx> Pici: you mind if I pm..
[05:31] <JonRob> pretty much
[05:31] <ferronica> JonRob: Got the URL ????
[05:31] <n33o> cheersszz!@!
[05:31] <n33o> keep up good work slash
[05:31] <slashjamiec> Goodnight all!
[05:31] <n33o> ;-)(
[05:31] <JonRob> njal: except you have to change the audio setting in skype
[05:31] <secion8> what is the command to check ubuntu version?
[05:31] <ferronica> JonRob: From there i have downloaded :(
[05:31] <JonRob> ferronica: yes
[05:31] <slashjamiec> n33o: Thanks! hope to see you on the channel for many times to come!
[05:31] <JonRob> two seconds :D
[05:31] <UltimaDude> Nice!
[05:31] <UltimaDude> YAY
[05:31] <kitche> secion8: lsb_release -a
[05:31] <UltimaDude> :)
[05:31] <ferronica> JonRob: I did something wrong :(
[05:31] <soundray> secion8: cat /etc/lsb-release or cat /etc/issue
[05:31] <njal> JonRob: Alright well thanks anyway
[05:32] <gvx> Pici: you mind if I pm..
[05:32] <JonRob> ferronica: do you know that the theme was for gnome!?
[05:32] <ferronica> JonRob: i am just trying to explore ubuntu i like linux more then windows  really Free to do anything
[05:32] <JonRob> ferronica: that's cool :D
[05:32] <ferronica> JonRob: what i am using then???
[05:33] <JonRob> you're using gnome i expect
[05:33] <JonRob> if you want to try different themes i might recommend http://www.gnome-look.org
[05:33] <JonRob> and if you try using the metacity or gtk2.x ones
[05:33] <secion8> Soundray, kitche, Thanx - How do I check the release build. I cannot apt-get dist-upgrade returns nothing to update.
[05:33] <JonRob> they should work
[05:33] <vexati0n> all good linux users use gnome. just sayin.
[05:33] <ant__> gnome-look is definitely the best
[05:33] <ferronica> JonRob: Why thisone is not working??? :(
[05:34] <muguest> anyone get the feisty beta already?
[05:34] <ferronica> JonRob: this one work or not???
[05:34] <soundray> secion8: have you done 'apt-get update'?
[05:34] <JonRob> ferronica: i'm not certain, but i think it might be that it's not for gnome - the desktop that's come with ubuntu
[05:34] <ant__> muguest : probly everyone in #ubuntu+1
[05:34] <gvx> Pici: is it best to have a seperate partition for my image creation...
[05:34] <JonRob> perhaps for kde
[05:34] <secion8> soundray: Yes.
[05:34] <JonRob> i'm not certain
[05:34] <felixhummel> What ADSL/LAN/WLAN router would you recommend? A friend of mine just asked me the same question.
[05:34] <JonRob> ferronica: sorry i can't be more help :(
[05:34] <muguest> ant_ it's too quiet in there
[05:34] <ferronica> JonRob: okay i have to delete it thanx
[05:35] <JonRob> bye all...
[05:35] <ferronica> JonRob: One more thing
[05:35] <JonRob> sure...
[05:35] <n33o> is there no way to auto-scan using tvtime?
[05:35] <soundray> felixhummel: one that is supported by OpenWrt -- there is a compatibility list on their site.
[05:35] <Syco> slashjamiec: thanks, it seems to be installing now! (the nvidia drivers using apt-get)
[05:35] <ferronica> JonRob: i am using sony erricson mobile i wanna connect it via my computer is it possible in ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper DRake???
[05:35] <dystopianray> felixhummel: wrt54gl
[05:35] <JonRob> with bluetooth!?
[05:36] <felixhummel> thanks, soundray and dystopianray
[05:36] <JonRob> ferronica: i think yes
[05:36] <JonRob> i've connected other phones with bluetooth before
[05:36] <ferronica> JonRob: no i got USB CABLE
[05:36] <dystopianray> felixhummel: wrt54gl supports openwrt
[05:36] <richdurhm> hey guys how do i see how much disk space i haev left on this hd thru ubuntu?
[05:36] <soundray> felixhummel: you will need to decide whether you want the modem integrated or a pure router.
[05:36] <slashjamiec> syco: You're welcome mate! Glad i could help!
[05:36] <JonRob> ferronica: it might be possible
[05:36] <soundray> richdurhm: df -h
[05:36] <dystopianray> felixhummel: oh wait, nevermind, wrt54gl has no modem in it
[05:36] <JonRob> have you tried connecting it!?
[05:36] <felixhummel> :)
[05:36] <ferronica> JonRob: not yet
[05:36] <JonRob> ferronica: best advice is just to try it!
[05:36] <ferronica> JonRob: which software i have to install
[05:36] <felixhummel> thanks guys, I will pass this info on.
[05:37] <Syco> slashjamiec: haha, I spoke too soon, it just crashed out with the same error..  df doesnt seem to show a /boot
[05:37] <JonRob> ferronica: it might just mount it as a usb device in which case you might not need any software
[05:37] <ferronica> JonRob: with blue tooth it works well
[05:37] <JonRob> but if not google around
[05:37] <JonRob> or ask in here :D
[05:37] <JonRob> i have to run now
[05:37] <JonRob> hope i've been of some help
[05:37] <mtc> How do I add a program to the menu?
[05:37] <slashjamiec> Syco: lol, damn. Well, I'm sure one of the other guys will help. It's 3am and am just heading to bed. PS: Have you updated your repostories/even have synaptics package manager?
[05:37] <ferronica> JonRob: Ok thanx
[05:38] <n33o> slash you have a website?
[05:38] <Syco> slashjamiec: I've added reposotories yeah
[05:38] <ferronica> JonRob: Any one here using Sony erricson K750i ???
[05:38] <slashjamiec> n33o: Yes, www.jchalktech.info is my personal website. I'm only 16, so bare with me. :)
[05:38] <ferronica> Any one here using Sony erricson K750i ???
[05:38] <Syco> slashjamiec: I might try a re-install, maybe something from the manual ati driver install is screwing it up, that and I'm having some issues with some IDE drives taking 60 seconds to read folders etc
[05:38] <ferronica> Any one here using Sony erricson K750i  with Data Cable   ??????
[05:38] <bh_> ferronica, why?
[05:39] <slashjamiec> Syco: Sounds like a good idea.
[05:39] <bh_> ferronica, do you have a question?
[05:39] <slashjamiec> ferronica: I'm trying to find my sony erricsson k600i sync cable for my phone :P
[05:39] <ferronica> bh_: i wanna to connect my mobile via computer to transfer contacts and Mp3
[05:39] <UltimaDude> I have this program called instlinux or something like that
[05:39] <UltimaDude> But It will remove Windows if I install ubuntu
[05:40] <UltimaDude> on it
[05:40] <ant__> UltimaDude : sounds like a plan :P
[05:40] <bh_> ferronica, when you connect it will connect as a usb storage device so you can just use the filemanager to drag mp3
[05:40] <UltimaDude> I don't want to get rid of windows
[05:40] <pliz> HI guys! I have a question about kmail crash on startup. Can anybody help me?
[05:40] <clearzen> UltimaDude: It won't touch your windows partition if you don't want it to
[05:40] <ferronica> slashjammiec: you software for it :)
[05:40] <UltimaDude> I need Windows for some games
[05:40] <UltimaDude> No, it does
[05:40] <UltimaDude> I read it
[05:40] <bh_> ferronica, for contacts and such you need to use evolution and multisync
[05:40] <h2os> when printing with lp command, is there a way to change default font
[05:40] <UltimaDude> It removes the windows partion
[05:40] <UltimaDude> now i'm scared
[05:41] <StoneNote> !duallboot
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duallboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <ant__> UltimaDude : then dont use that program, just install ubuntu with ubuntu's install.
[05:41] <slashjamiec> ferronica: unfortunately i don't have linux software. I've only got the initial cd rom that came with it (Windows compatible).
[05:41] <UltimaDude> I can't
[05:41] <h2os> ie, lp -dprinter -ofont=courier-bold file.txt
[05:41] <clearzen> !dualboot
[05:41] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:41] <UltimaDude> I used Ubuntu on CD's and they don't work
[05:41] <ant__> UltimaDude : the next thing to do would be to find out.
[05:41] <ferronica> slashjammiec: I tooo got window compatible CD :(
[05:41] <ant__> UltimaDude : why
[05:42] <richdurhm> hey guys my logitech mx600 mouse stopped working after i tried to get the buttons to workany suggestion
[05:42] <UltimaDude> I get errors
[05:42] <UltimaDude> And I tryed other CD's
[05:42] <clearzen> !dualboot > UltimaDude  check that link
[05:42] <UltimaDude> and they don't even boot
[05:42] <n33o> how do i apt-get myth tv?
[05:42] <ferronica> slashjammiec: have you tried to connect your cable that came up with your mobile???
[05:42] <muguest> !fesity
[05:42] <slashjamiec> ferronica: yeah :( .. Do you come on this channel much? I can look tomorrow for some compatible drivers and get back to you?
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <muguest> !feisty
[05:42] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha.  Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) Feisty Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta
[05:42] <UltimaDude> Clearzen> I don't have windows
[05:42] <UltimaDude> I mean cd's*
[05:42] <UltimaDude> Lol
[05:42] <slashjamiec> ferronica: No, i havent connected the cable. I lost it in my office somewhere. I will look tomorrow.
[05:43] <n33o> says it is seen.. but package replaces it.
[05:43] <ant__> UltimaDude : there is most likely a recovery partition if its a fairly new comp
[05:43] <ferronica> slashjammiec:  i am always here.
[05:43] <chrisrummy> sorry to be a pest but it didnt tell me how to run to monitors on one card. i have the driver installed now.
[05:43] <muguest> !feisty is The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is in beta.  Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) Feisty Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta
[05:43] <ferronica> slashjammiec:  Add me UP in ur list
[05:43] <UltimaDude> Chris> There is but, it doesn't work on my model
[05:43] <AndrewB> !privacy
[05:43] <slashjamiec> ferronica: cool, am only newbie to here and to linux. But i help out where needed. I learnt linux the hard way. :P
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about privacy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <UltimaDude> Its a AMD 64 Athlon
[05:44] <UltimaDude> That runs Windows XP 32bit
[05:44] <ferronica> slashjammiec: how to add you in m y list
[05:44] <slashjamiec> ferronica: Do you use MSN?
[05:44] <ferronica> nope
[05:44] <ferronica> slashjammiec: No
[05:45] <slashjamiec> =(
[05:45] <slashjamiec> ugh
[05:45] <ferronica> slashjammiec: add me on IRC cahnnel
[05:45] <slashjamiec> ferronica: How?
[05:45] <ferronica> slashjammiec: Is it possible??
[05:45] <UltimaDude> I need help :(
[05:45] <slashjamiec> ferronica: i dont think so
[05:45] <ferronica> slashjammiec: I dont know
[05:45] <muguest> !ask
[05:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:45] <UltimaDude> I really want to use Ubuntu
[05:45] <ferronica> slashjammiec: i use yahoo
[05:45] <ferronica> slashjammiec: Do you
[05:45] <UltimaDude> But I don't have CD's
[05:45] <UltimaDude> And the Windows Installer doesn't work
[05:45] <chrisrummy> but it is possible to run 2 monitors off on card.
[05:45] <slashjamiec> UltimaDude: About 9 people, counted, have helped you try to /mnt/ a cd to /boot/ without installing.
[05:45] <muguest> ultimadude, you can load it on a flash drive
[05:46] <slashjamiec> ferronica: no. i don't. :(
[05:46] <UltimaDude> Muguest: How?
[05:46] <ferronica> slashjammiec: then :(
[05:46] <incidence> Whats the difference between BootCamp and rEFIt
[05:46] <UltimaDude> I really need a simple way
[05:46] <muguest> Ultimadude look at google for guides
[05:46] <Lynx-> how can I convert .s3m file (Screem Tracker 3) to .wav or .mp3?
[05:46] <ant__> !install | UltimaDude
[05:46] <ubotu> UltimaDude: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:46] <muguest> ultimadude purchase a cd from the linuxstore
[05:47] <slashjamiec> UltimaDude: The difficult cannot be accomplished by using a simple mechanism.
[05:47] <slashjamiec> ferronica: Don't worry, I won't remember your name :).. I'll always be in here on IDLE or something. So if you need me, PM me and i'll read it when i get back to the computer.
[05:47] <slashjamiec> Forget***
[05:48] <slashjamiec> I meant forget, instead of remember***
[05:49] <slashjamiec> kkbye all
[05:50] <AndrewB> !opera
[05:50] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:51] <incidence> !macbook
[05:51] <Lars_G> Hi all. question is there a dpkg-reconfigure based configurator for xorg?
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macbook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <Lars_G> if not, what dialog/ncurses xorg quick configurator package do you recommend me?
[05:51] <Pici> Lars_G: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I believe.
[05:51] <Lars_G> Pici: I'll try it.
[05:52] <Pici> Lars_G: If not, then its xorg-xserver , I get them mixed up
[05:52] <Lars_G> Last question, for older ATI cards (non flgxl afaik) where is the OSS DRI driver included?
[05:52] <n33o> anyone know a few tv tuner card softwares that i can use on ubuntu?
[05:52] <cwillu> !upstart
[05:52] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:52] <craigbass1976> How do I change the default gui text editor from gedit to kate?
[05:52] <clearzen> Lars_G: if you use sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg it chooses some defaults for you
[05:52] <n33o> !tvcard
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <Lars_G> Pici: Yup, it worked with xserver-xorg danke
[05:53] <n33o> !tv
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <n33o> !tuner
[05:53] <clearzen> !mythtv
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[05:53] <n33o> !cablecrypt
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cablecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Pici> !fishing | n33o
[05:53] <ubotu> n33o: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:53] <n33o> lol
[05:53] <n33o> ok
[05:53] <UltimaDude> Sorry, but the options don't include Live CD without CD
[05:53] <n33o> ok
[05:54] <UltimaDude> Since I really want to run Ubuntu 6.06 by Live CD
[05:54] <Andeh> Hello
[05:54] <chrisrummy> is it possibke to run 2 monitors off one video card
[05:54] <Andeh> I am back once again
[05:54] <UltimaDude> I think so.
[05:55] <Andeh> All my "problems" have been solved, now i'll sit here quietly and wait for someone to ask something i can solve for them :).
[05:55] <clearzen> chrisrummy: yes it is. You have to have 2 connections on the card obviously though
[05:55] <chrisrummy> i do and both monitors are mirrorowing. how do i split them in ubuntu
[05:56] <UltimaDude> I want to run the Live CD without the CD
[05:56] <clearzen> chrisrummy: so you want to display 2 desktops one on each monitor?
[05:56] <chrisrummy> yes plz
[05:57] <chainsaw_> i have downloaded winrar for linux rarlinux-3.7.b1.tar.gz how do i install it?
[05:57] <Lars_G> I'm missing the "fixed" font. that's why X fails to load o.O
[05:57] <clearzen> chrisrummy: I don't know how to do it off the top of my head. However I know there is a book called Ubuntu hacks that tells you how. I bet you could find a thread on the forums too.
[05:57] <UltimaDude> I'm wondering,Whats the downfall of emulating Ubuntu with QEMU?
[05:57] <chrisrummy> and i want to change the resolution on the second monitor
[05:57] <chrisrummy> \
[05:57] <incidence> !rar
[05:57] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:58] <chrisrummy> thanks clear ill look for it
[05:58] <clearzen> chrisrummy: to change the resolution you can edit your xorg.conf file
[05:58] <clearzen> chrisrummy: and add the resolution under Display
[05:59] <incidence> Does anybody know that does Mac Os X install to a USB Harddrive? So that way I could install Ubuntu as a main OS and use os x only for installing firmware.
[05:59] <syllabic> what would be a good partition type to be used as a streaming media server
[05:59] <anolis> Does anyone know how to force an application to use a specified audio device?
[05:59] <syllabic> filesystem type
[06:00] <chrisrummy> clear im not quit sure how to do that
[06:00] <Pensacola> what's the extra value of the dvd?
[06:00] <clearzen> chrisrummy: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:00] <Nitro> How do I view my Creativ Live! Cam in ubuntu?
[06:00] <muguest> incidence, i believe you can install os x on a hard drive, but this is not really an #ubuntu question.  ask in #macosx
[06:00] <incidence> anolis: I think you can do it with ~/.asoundrc
[06:01] <muguest> incidence, external drive*
[06:01] <incidence> muguest: This kinda is more ubuntu question :p cause I want to get rid off os x
[06:01] <clearzen> chrisrummy: look for the section that says display and include the resolution in "" next to the other resolutions.
[06:01] <anolis> could you go into a bit more detail about that incidence?
[06:01] <incidence> but ok, I understand
[06:01] <darth_mall> does anyone know what might be preventing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-12-386 from being configured in feisty? the most information I'm able to find is "exit status 135" from some subprocess
[06:02] <Pici> darth_mall: Feisty support in #ubuntu
[06:02] <darth_mall> I've no idea what exit status 135 is, though
[06:02] <Pici> darth_mall: Feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <darth_mall> oh, my bad
[06:02] <darth_mall> sorry
[06:02] <muguest> no big deal
[06:02] <chainsaw_> i have downloaded winrar for linux rarlinux-3.7.b1.tar.gz how do i install it? im a noob
[06:02] <joaquim> Nitro: Camorama Webcam Viewer
[06:03] <chainsaw_> the other rar programs dont work
[06:03] <clearzen> chainsaw_: save some time and use apt-get install unrar
[06:03] <joaquim> Nitro: search in Add/Remove programs
[06:03] <chainsaw_> i done that it says no package available
[06:03] <ant__> !rar | chainsaw_
[06:03] <ubotu> chainsaw_: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:04] <chainsaw_> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:04] <chainsaw_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:04] <chainsaw_> is only available from another source
[06:04] <chainsaw_> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[06:04] <clearzen> chainsaw_: you need to add the repository
[06:04] <cwillu> chainsaw_: probably need to enable universe/multiverse
[06:04] <chainsaw_> whats that and how do i do it?
[06:04] <muguest> !paste | chainsaw_
[06:04] <ubotu> chainsaw_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:04] <ant__> !sources | chainsaw_
[06:04] <Pici> !universe
[06:04] <ubotu> chainsaw_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:04] <sanityx> Hey, anybody running VMware on ubuntu here?
[06:05] <muguest> sanityx do you need configuration help?
[06:05] <Nitro> It can't connect.
[06:05] <clearzen> chainsaw_: You can open synaptic > settings> repos
[06:05] <clearzen> chainsaw_: and change it from there
[06:05] <sanityx> muguest, Well I'm curious, can you install vmware server without having X or a gui installed? I want to install it on 6.10 server edition
[06:05] <secion9> What is the command to check my kernel version?
[06:06] <clearzen> secion9: uname -r
[06:06] <elgilbert01> hola
[06:06] <slashjamiec> $ cat/proc/version
[06:06] <slashjamiec> i mean
[06:06] <secion9> clearzen: Thank you
[06:06] <slashjamiec> section9: cat /proc/version
[06:06] <slashjamiec> jamiec@jamiec-desktop:~$ cat /proc/version
[06:06] <slashjamiec> Linux version 2.6.17-10-386 (root@terranova) (gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5)) #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 (Ubuntu 2.6.17-10.34-386)
[06:06] <slashjamiec> is mine :)
[06:06] <secion9> slashjamiec: thank you
[06:06] <slashjamiec> secion9: You're welcome
[06:07] <joaquim> Nitro: http://vegdave.wordpress.com/tag/technology/web-cam/
[06:07] <muguest> sanityx peek here? http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/server.html
[06:08] <sanityx> nice thanks!
[06:09] <Andeh> Hello. Anyone need any help?
[06:09] <ant__> whao
[06:09] <Andeh> ?
[06:10] <ant__> thats cool
[06:10] <Andeh> What is?
[06:10] <ant__> asking
[06:10] <Andeh> lol
[06:10] <ant__> any success installing the artwiz fonts?
[06:10] <Andeh> hmm...
[06:10] <Andeh> *googles it*
[06:10] <ant__> hehe, dont worry bout it
[06:11] <Andeh> :)
[06:11] <Andeh> Oh dear, these GAIM emotes suck arse. Anyone know what dir they're kept in?
[06:11] <Andeh> I'd like to replace a few
[06:11] <ant__> theres probly people in here that really need help
[06:12] <Andeh> Yes, but if they really need help they would have asked by now, right?
[06:12] <Andeh> Otherwise they need help reading?
[06:12] <ant__> you probly dont want to  help them with that..
[06:12] <julian> how do u enable the ichat plugin in gaim, to see ppl on the same wireless network
[06:13] <elgilbert01> alguien habla espa?ol
[06:13] <ant__> !es | elgilbert01
[06:13] <ubotu> elgilbert01: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:13] <adx> when is the fstab file read?
[06:13] <Andeh> Ok, seems i'm being less helpful than i expected.
[06:14] <elgilbert01> e que no se muy bien soy nuevo en linux solo tengo 3 dias
[06:14] <apokryphos> !spanish
[06:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:14] <ant__> adx : is boot-up specific enough?
[06:14] <clearzen> adx: at boot....or you can force a read with sudo mount -a
[06:14] <Andeh> Eh?
[06:14] <Andeh> Ok i'm being extremely unhelpful.
[06:15] <vvlaw> what's going on with this problem?
[06:15] <adx> ok thx
[06:15] <vvlaw> cann't find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x30345652
[06:16] <vvlaw> when use the mplayer
[06:16] <Moo^^^> hi. is there any alternative install methods for ubuntu besides cd? I'd like to try feisty in my laptop but I am out of 700 mb cd-rws
[06:16] <Andeh> Is there a way to not be notified about messages like "some random person left the room due to being inactive for some random amount of time"?
[06:16] <n33o> how do  i"go to directory" in terminal?
[06:16] <Pici> !install | Moo^^^ take a look here
[06:16] <ubotu> Moo^^^ take a look here: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[06:16] <sarixe> hi, i'm having a problem with ubuntu 6.10, in which i can't run any kde apps in gnome.  when i start them, they all give me a floating point exception (core dumped).
[06:16] <sarixe> any help?
[06:16] <Moo^^^> Pici: thanks. you are the man!
[06:16] <Pici> n33o: cd directoryname
[06:17] <n33o> thanks
[06:17] <clearzen> n33o: you can also use ls /path/to/dir to list contents
[06:17] <WMcL> n33o: tip: use tab for autocompletion
[06:17] <Pici> n33o:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands may be of some help
[06:17] <ant__> n33o : tip, use cd .. to go back a directory
[06:18] <Muiske> How do you change the bit rate of a wireless network?
[06:18] <WMcL> n33o: and use cd - to go to the directory you came from
[06:18] <sarixe> Muiske: you don't.
[06:18] <gordonjcp> Muiske: depends
[06:18] <clearzen> iwconfig ath0 rate 11M
[06:19] <ant__> Muiske : buy the right hardware??
[06:19] <gordonjcp> Muiske: in general it will run at the fastest possible rate, given the conditions
[06:19] <aoirthoir> every once in a while I have to work in MS Windows, for example now in order to convert some proprietary word processing files over to RTF so I can conver them to open document format
[06:20] <aoirthoir> and each time I do I want to take a needle, heat it to a thousand degrees and slowly drive it through my one good eyeball so that it boils away slowly.
[06:20] <clearzen> aoirthoir:lmao
[06:20] <Linuturk> ok fellas, I have to video controllers in this machine. I want to use the Intel Intergrated over the ATI Card
[06:20] <Muiske> Err. Then why does it show 11 Mbps... while the router sends at 54 Mbps?
[06:20] <gordonjcp> must admit, it was pretty painful switching to Windows for the past couple of days
[06:20] <aoirthoir> currently I am having to work with Act!...which chose in 2000 and earlier to use ITS OWN word processing format
[06:20] <Linuturk> I've used lspci to find the BUS ID, but I don't know how to translate that to the xorg.conf file
[06:20] <gordonjcp> Muiske: either it's an 11Mbps card, or it's set to 11Mbps, or you're not getting a good enough signal
[06:20] <clearzen> aoirthoir: o god. I hate systems like that
[06:21] <UltimaDude> I don't really like windows
[06:21] <aoirthoir> If I try to save the file...when I change file type..it puts me back in the c:\gprograms\sympantec\act\templates directory....EVEN THOUGH I told it to save on E drive
[06:21] <aoirthoir> can you believe that crap?
[06:21] <aoirthoir> (and btw I have heard all of yalls comments..just rantin...)
[06:21] <UltimaDude>  Microsoft just made it a cash cow
[06:21] <aoirthoir> ultima I hate windows...its aweful
[06:21] <UltimaDude> rather than a Proper computer
[06:21] <UltimaDude> I mean, all these viruses, And exploits.
[06:21] <Muiske> gordonjcp: So. The fact that I can't get the network running (although the router interface _says_ it's broadcasting) does not have anything to do with the bitrate?
[06:21] <aoirthoir> its a cash cow by forcing people to buy it..that is the only way.
[06:22] <clearzen> Linuturk: In most cases you don't have to specify the bus ID and it will be reconized, in my experience anyway.
[06:22] <aoirthoir> windows IS the virus..the grand daddy of them all.
[06:22] <UltimaDude> I'd just think microsoft would of fixed all the bugs.
[06:22] <gordonjcp> Muiske: no, it will just talk at a lower rate
[06:22] <ant__> windows serves its purpose, let the non-aware just keep being non-aware.
[06:22] <aoirthoir> they maintain control
[06:22] <UltimaDude> Bill gates messes with your Windows xD
[06:22] <Pici> Windows talk in ##windows , Anything else non support in #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[06:22] <Muiske> gordonjcp: Ok thanks. Do you by any chance have some good Howto's on wireless networking on Ubuntu?
[06:23] <ant__> Pici : its quiet in here, why so strict?
[06:23] <aoirthoir> ok pici..we love ubuntu and winows just makes me want to kill myself
[06:23] <clearzen> some people love rules
[06:23] <JonRob> anybody have any idea why when you run mkisofs with the -dvd-video tag when making a bootable ubuntu disk it doesn't work!?
[06:23] <ecker> Can someone give me alil hep. I'm trying to get my wireless PCI card to work with ndiswapper.  I have the driver installed and everything seems to be in place, i just can't seem to get anything from iwconfig heres my paste.bin of a few things i tried  http://ace.pastey.net/9057-3pja
[06:23] <JonRob> works fine with knoppix
[06:23] <axisme> Hi all. Having a slight problem. I have a CD that I can't view the contents of in linux but i can in WIndows. Linux works fine for other CDs but just not this set it seems. Is there certain files that linux can't view??
[06:23] <aoirthoir> ant..cause lots of people come in here to ask questions about ubuntu and my suicide fantasies will interrupt that
[06:24] <ant__> !ohmy | aoirthoir haha
[06:24] <aoirthoir> ecker have you tried network-manager..it makes wireless a no brainer
[06:24] <ubotu> aoirthoir haha: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:24] <Pici> axisme: Is it possible that this CD has some weird DRM thing going on?
[06:24] <ant__> :P
[06:24] <clearzen> aoirthoir: XD
[06:24] <aoirthoir> didnt know I said anything anti-family
[06:24] <axisme> Pici, not sure. It reads the label of it..just not the contents. It's just a language software CD...not sure why it would have DRM??
[06:24] <ant__> suicide i think is anti everything
[06:25] <ant__> except death of course
[06:25] <clearzen> axisme: what does it show you when you try to view the files?
[06:25] <tale_> anybody running mythtv on edgy?
[06:25] <muguest> tale_ yes
[06:25] <axisme> clearzen: nothing at all
[06:25] <aoirthoir> eok back to this stupid Act! 2000 virus..er I mean software.
[06:25] <tale_> muguest, do you have problem with dvd and video playback sometimes being jerky?
[06:25] <axisme> clearzen: just looks like its an empty CD
[06:26] <chainsaw_> !being nice
[06:26] <clearzen> axisme: have you tried to list the contents from the terminal?
[06:26] <tale_> it only happens every few seconds
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about being nice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <rarj> How do I change the name of the mounted drive icons on the desktop ?
[06:26] <axisme> clearzen: yeps, nothing there as well
[06:26] <muguest> tale_ haven't used it for dvd playback, i have a separate dvd player and my ubuntu box is a floor below me.  you may try #mythtv-users if you haven't asked in there.
[06:26] <clearzen> axisme: The cd itself is appearing on the desktop though? Is it mounted?
[06:26] <tale_> muguest, I have asked in there
[06:27] <axisme> clearzen: yes it shows as mounted and appears on the desktop
[06:27] <tale_> not much help
[06:27] <muguest> tale_ keep checking back, you'll eventually find a useful person.
[06:27] <cbx33> anyone built a htpc media center here?
[06:27] <clearzen> axisme: have you tryed using the ls -a /path/to/cd?
[06:27] <axisme> i will try
[06:27] <axisme> sec
[06:27] <Andeh> What do i do when beryl freezess and nothing is responding?
[06:27] <adx> how can i send a msg
[06:27] <muguest> Andeh ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:28] <adx> to a user?
[06:28] <rarj> How do I change the name of the mounted drive icons on the desktop ?
[06:28] <tale_> muguest, I would think that would be the case, but I've tried several times and nobody seems to really help in there.  They just ask questions.
[06:28] <Andeh> I tried that, but when NOTHING is responding?
[06:28] <adx> wall doesn't work
[06:28] <adx> axxaxaax
[06:28] <axisme> ls -a /media/cdrom
[06:28] <axisme> .  ..
[06:28] <muguest> can you play the dvd without mythtv in ubuntu?
[06:28] <clearzen> axisme: try /media/cdrom0
[06:29] <axisme> same thing
[06:29] <muguest> tale_ how fast is your system, and have you installed binary drivers?
[06:29] <UltimaDude> I sort of have a error
[06:29] <rarj> Anyone knows how to change the name of the mounted drive icons on the desktop ?
[06:29] <UltimaDude> On Ubuntu emulation
[06:29] <UltimaDude> I can't write in Firefox
[06:30] <WMcL> Andeh: if nothing is responding yu might try the "magic sysRQ keys" before a hard poweroff to achieve a cleaner shutdown: http://www.developertutorials.com/tutorials/linux/magic-sysrq-050503/page1.html
[06:30] <muguest> !fstab rarj
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fstab rarj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <incidence> !macbook
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macbook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <muguest> !fstab | rarj
[06:31] <ubotu> rarj: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:31] <axisme> clearzen: any ideas?
[06:31] <rarj> muguest: Thanks
[06:31] <Andeh> Audacity crashed and filled my disk with junk data. How do i delete temporary files?
[06:31] <synic> rm?
[06:31] <dennis_> is there some command line where you can see which version of feisty you have?
[06:31] <Andeh> Yes, what do i have to rm?
[06:31] <WMcL> Andeh: you should try to sync and unmount the filesystems before poweroff
[06:32] <synic> how do you know your disk is filled with junk data?
[06:32] <clearzen> axisme: What kind of files are they?
[06:32] <muguest> incidence, bootcamp and leave a small os x partition?  i actually like os x
[06:32] <tale_> muguest, yes I've installed nividia drivers.  System has 1GB RAM, 2.8 Ghz Intel with HT, Nivida 5200
[06:32] <Andeh> Because audacity was doing something, crashed and a popup said 100% disk space in use.
[06:32] <maracana> hello mi names david
[06:32] <tbodine> My processor is working at I'd say 100% everytime my computer idles, is there a way to shut this "feature" off -- I don't know what my computer is actually doing while it's idling, but it's really annoying.
[06:32] <axisme> clearzen: one second, i will go check on my windows computer. they are different ones
[06:32] <aoirthoir> synic: click APPLICATIONS then ACCESSORIES then DISK USAGE ANAYLZER
[06:32] <clearzen> axisme: ok
[06:32] <synic> Andeh: I dunno, check ~/.audacity
[06:32] <Andeh> ok ty
[06:32] <ravi_master> hey clearzen
[06:32] <tale_> muguest, the box dual boots windows media center.  It works fine, so it has to be a Linux software problem
[06:33] <muguest> tale_ drivers are working properly? I don't know then
[06:33] <clearzen> tbodine: pstree will show you what is running
[06:33] <muguest> eew windows
[06:33] <clearzen> ravi_master: hi
[06:33] <aoirthoir> Andeh: follow the instructions I just gave synic
[06:33] <tbodine> clearzen, but once I move the mouse it drops to a couple percent usage :\
[06:33] <tale_> muguest, I believe that drivers are working properly.  DMA is enabled on HDD and DVD-ROM drive
[06:33] <ravi_master> anyone else in here watching the exciting cricket match in Grenada today?
[06:34] <muguest> tale_ i can't help you more than google then
[06:34] <Andeh> Well 66 percent is in use but thats including my windows partition and external hdd
[06:34] <Andeh> But my linux one is full
[06:35] <Andeh> Is there any folder where temp files are stored that i can safely delete?
[06:35] <ravi_master> Andeh, /tmp
[06:35] <tale_> muguest, thanks anyway.  I've already googled.  I'll figure it out eventually.  I've been trying to get my myth box working for about 3 weeks now.  I'm continuing to use Windows MCE until I get it figured out.
[06:35] <ravi_master> Andeh, but be careful that you don't delete something you want, take a look in /tmp
[06:36] <tale_> muguest, whats sad is that I'm not a novice user
[06:36] <ziro01> dunno
[06:36] <muguest> tale_ i'm a very novice user +)
[06:36] <tale_> I run linux at home and work.
[06:36] <muguest> =) *
[06:36] <clearzen> tale_: I'm working on Mythtv too. I just got a tuner and remote
[06:36] <muguest> clearzen, what tuner?  the pvr-150 is great with the irblaster and remote
[06:36] <tale_> clearzen, I'm having issues with jerky video playback.  Have you seen that problem?
[06:36] <ravi_master> tale_: jeez, mythtv is pretty easy to setup - however, there is a new product out there that claims to wrap itself into ubuntu well...
[06:36] <axisme> clearzen: there are two folders. One with some .txt in and one with .wav in . There is a .exe  in the main directory and also a .dll and a .ini
[06:37] <clearzen> tale_: That is what I have =D
[06:37] <Andeh> 36864 it says when i do ls -l
[06:37] <Andeh> How much is that/
[06:37] <tale_> ravi_master, I had the box up and running really fast.  It's the little things that take a while
[06:37] <nox-Hand> Hey hey
[06:37] <maracana> kie me kiera chupar la polla k me llame auke m gustan los coos
[06:37] <ravi_master> hey, you guys remember the system featured on Digg which had excellent mythtv integration into ubuntu?
[06:37] <ravi_master> searching for it right now...
[06:38] <tale_> like spdif (optical out) so I can have dolby digital 5.1 sound, getting my remote to work.  Now it's jerky video
[06:38] <clearzen> axisme: I honestly don't know why it wouldn't read it other than the disk being scratched I haven't had that problem before
[06:38] <nox-Hand> I am loading Herd 5 liveCD to install, but I cannot load X. What\s the manual reconfigure command? There is this text-based gui for it iirc
[06:38] <axisme> clearzen: I have 4 disks in the set and they all do the same. all load fine on windows
[06:38] <Nitro> driver installed, but it still gives me the error message.
[06:38] <vortiz> maria
[06:38] <axisme> clearzen: How can i check if its a DRM thing?
[06:38] <clearzen> axisme: Do they have some kind of DRM on them?
[06:38] <vortiz> maria
[06:38] <tale_> clearzen, so have you seen any solutions to the jerky playback?  I've only seen suggestions to run mythfrontend suid
[06:39] <julian> how do i install limewire
[06:39] <ravi_master> best howto byfar for edgy ubuntu is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend
[06:39] <nox-Hand> Help?
[06:39] <Nitro> julian: You can use frostwire, if I'm not wrong.
[06:39] <WMcL> Andeh: try to find out what consumes the most space. use the command 'du' to show the disk usage. the option -h will give the used space in a 'human readable' form
[06:39] <clearzen> tale_: I haven't had time to play with it yet. I got everything yesterday, so I dunno
[06:39] <julian> where do i get it? its not in synaptic
[06:39] <nox-Hand> :|
[06:39] <Andeh> Disk usage analyser is running
[06:40] <Andeh> I seriously need to delete windows stuff :/
[06:40] <clearzen> axisme: try making a disk image and using ubuntu to open/burn them
[06:40] <Andeh> I have 37 GB of windows junk on my HDD
[06:40] <clearzen> axisme: It has to be DRM
[06:40] <WMcL> Andeh: example: 'du -h directoryname'. for a summarized output use the option '-s'
[06:40] <Andeh> No i am using Disk Usage Analyser
[06:40] <adx> how can i execute a gui program from ssh to the other user?
[06:40] <julian> nevermind i got it
[06:40] <WMcL> Andeh: ok
[06:41] <flexo3105> hi
[06:41] <nox-Hand> Xorg doesnt start on the liveCD. How do I manually reconfigure my Xorg? dpkg-reconfigure... what?
[06:41] <WMcL> adx: try to log in with 'ssh -X'
[06:41] <Andeh> Will anything explode if i delete large folders in /var/cache?
[06:41] <dyrne> adx: do 'w' to see the display then from ssh 'export DISPLAY=:1' or whatever then gedit& or whatever app
[06:41] <acemo> acemo@acemo:~$ sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino
[06:41] <acemo> FATAL: Module speedstep_centrino not found.
[06:41] <acemo> How can i get speedstep-centrino?
[06:41] <clearzen> nox-Hand: sudo dkpg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:42] <clearzen> acemo: build it from source and insert it
[06:42] <rocioliebana> hola a todos
[06:42] <axisme> clearzen: K3B seems to not be able to read the contents either..
[06:42] <dyrne> adx: that assumes its same user on another display if another user you might need to also xhost +127.0.0.1  as gui user then do the export as other user
[06:42] <clearzen> axisme: What cd is it?
[06:43] <axisme> linkword spanish CD
[06:43] <acemo> clearzen, u might know where i can get the sources?
[06:43] <rocioliebana> bueno tio bueno
[06:43] <nox-Hand> clearzen: Cheers
[06:43] <nox-Hand> :P
[06:44] <secion8> Is there any way to roll back a package to a previous working version? Like similiar to windows system restore, I just updated beryl and now it won't work!
[06:44] <flexo3105> during install , my gpu overheated and the fan only came up every 10 mins ... after installing the newest nvidia-glx from the website it worked pretty good(around 44C / 7900gs / toshiba laptop) , but yesterday after some minor update it stopped working and its not working anymore at all ... any idea how this could happen ? its working under windows
[06:44] <clearzen> acemo: I use git for building kernel source....but I don't think that is the ubuntu standard. I could look around and find it though.
[06:44] <Andeh> Whats the command for deleting temporary apt files?
[06:44] <jbernhardt> hey
[06:44] <rocioliebana> bueno sabras defenderte muy bien de tus agtresores
[06:44] <ravi_master> clearzen: what should I use to edit a simple asf file, I just need to trim ten minutes of the end off.
[06:45] <clearzen> ravi_master: both kino and avidemux should do it
[06:45] <Andeh> Whats the command for deleting temporary apt files? i know there is one!
[06:45] <rociodamas> rocio liebama
[06:45] <rocioliebana> hola rocio estas muy guapa
[06:45] <GhostFreeman> I just installed php4, how do I use it from the command line
[06:45] <ravi_master> clearzen, I'll just get cinerella if that doesn't work
[06:45] <axisme> rocioliebana: #ubuntu-es
[06:46] <vvlaw> hi~
[06:46] <rociodamas> gracias y tu tanbin
[06:46] <Pici> !es | rociodamas
[06:46] <ubotu> rociodamas: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:46] <rocioliebana> hola tia buena como estas
[06:46] <acemo> clearzen: git looks like its a file browser here
[06:46] <vvlaw> I got some problem :(
[06:46] <WMcL> Andeh: apt-get autolean or apt-get clean, works with aptitude instead of apt-get too
[06:46] <Andeh> ok
[06:47] <rociodamas> rociooooooooooooooooooooo tia buena
[06:47] <rocioliebana> rocio la isabel esta mas tonta imposible
[06:47] <sidny4> vvlaw: what's the problem?
[06:47] <clearzen> acemo: it is a program for downloading source for kernels basicly. It works like svn or cvs
[06:47] <vvlaw> libvo/libvo.a(video_out.o):(.data+0x20): undefined reference to `video_out_xv'
[06:47] <vvlaw> Gui/libgui.a(interface.o): In function `guiInit':
[06:47] <vvlaw> interface.c:(.text+0xa29): undefined reference to `vo_setwindow'
[06:47] <vvlaw> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[06:47] <vvlaw> make: *** [mplayer]  Error 1
[06:47] <rociodamas> 
[06:47] <clearzen> acemo: linus uses it :p
[06:47] <WMcL> Andeh: clean deletes all, and autoclean is a bit more selective
[06:47] <rociodamas> ssssssssssssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:48] <rocioliebana> esta mas gilipollas ahora que tal
[06:48] <Andeh> uh, i just did clean so its a bit late for that :(
[06:48] <Pensacola> what's the extra value of the dvd over the cd?
[06:48] <rociodamas> la
[06:48] <acemo> clearzen: and i need to compile my kernel to get speedstep-centrino to work? :S
[06:49] <rociodamas> ayabara hola
[06:49] <Flannel> !es | rociodamas
[06:49] <ubotu> rociodamas: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:49] <pramso> does anybody know how to change from ntsc to pal on a s3twister graphics?
[06:49] <clearzen> acemo: if it says the module isn't found then you need the module source. Compile it and insert it, don't build a entire kernel just a piece of it
[06:49] <rocioliebana> la gilipollas de la isabel maria esta mas tonta bueno que le vamos ha hacer si esta mas tonta
[06:49] <Andeh> Where else might i find temporary files safe for deletion?
[06:49] <acemo> clearzen: ohh okay :) tnx
[06:50] <ekul`> my harddisk icon has disappeared, how can i get into my file system?
[06:50] <ravi_master> clearzen: can't edit/import avi's in either app you mentioned
[06:50] <secion8> How do I get synaptic to recognize an earlier release of a package?
[06:50] <rocioliebana> bueno que se va ha cere
[06:50] <rocioliebana> siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:50] <ravi_master> clearzen: sorry, meant to say asf's, not avi's
[06:50] <pramso> ekul: the terminal
[06:50] <secion8> I need to roll back to earlier bery-core
[06:50] <secion8> beryl-core
[06:50] <clearzen> ravi_master: really?? do you have the codecs for it....maybe I was mistaken
[06:51] <rocioliebana> rocio la isabel maria estamas tonta
[06:51] <ekul`> how do i get my icon back?
[06:51] <ravi_master> I believe so
[06:51] <Flannel> rocioliebana: English only here, please `/join #ubuntu-es`
[06:51] <clearzen> ravi_master: sorry, my bad then
[06:51] <Andeh> Where might i find temporary files safe to delete?
[06:51] <rociodamas> tfyoig6g
[06:51] <clearzen> ravi_master: I don't edit those files often. I always convert them anyway
[06:51] <flexo3105> my gpu fan isnt working anymore , i didnt change anything, cpu fan works ok
[06:52] <rocioliebana> bueno ya va aser la hora de irnos hasta mira la hora
[06:52] <Andeh> I have only 340 mb Hdd space left on my linux partition and my windows partition has nearly no space to share so i need to delete temporary files
[06:52] <ant__> Flannel : it seems he doesnt understand spanish either...
[06:52] <rocioliebana> vckkljklvcjkbjvjvivsdjfjijbsib
[06:52] <Andeh> What are common places to find temporary files?
[06:53] <ant__> Andeh : /tmp
[06:53] <gepatino> Andeh: /tmp is the system temp dir
[06:53] <gepatino> Andeh: you can also clen apt cache: sudo aptitude clean
[06:53] <Andeh> ok, so, /tmp
[06:53] <Andeh> anything else?
[06:53] <rocioliebana> jose maria se va porque ya nos vamos a ir
[06:53] <Andeh> I did that
[06:53] <Andeh> I need more
[06:53] <rociodamas> rocio que damos
[06:53] <PinkFloyd> If I plug a network cable from my router into my computer and then start it up, will it use DHCP to get an IP addy or what?
[06:53] <Andeh> I will restart X soon, its getting messed up.
[06:53] <gepatino> Andeh: /tmp is the only system wide temp dir, afaik
[06:53] <rocioliebana> hola tonta
[06:54] <Andeh> Ok
[06:54] <Andeh> thanks
[06:54] <Andeh> Bye
[06:54] <secureboot> anyone know how to get timing information on bootup steps before the root filesystem is mounted?  timing things like loading the initrd?
[06:54] <rociodamas> rocio que damos
[06:54] <gepatino> rocioliebana: por favor, entra a #ubuntu-es para soporte en espaol
[06:54] <scv> PinkFloyd: it's supposed to be
[06:54] <PinkFloyd> ok
[06:55] <scv> PinkFloyd: so?
[06:55] <PinkFloyd> scv: ?
[06:55] <scv> PinkFloyd: what's your new TOY?
[06:55] <PinkFloyd> scv: It's taking a long time to install updates
[06:55] <ravi_master> clearzen, fine, how can I transcode them into an importable file?
[06:56] <scv> PinkFloyd: :(
[06:56] <alekz> hi, how can i reinstall the net-tools package if i have no internet connection ?
[06:57] <Andeh> Hello again
[06:57] <clearzen> ravi_master: hang on I'll find something for you
[06:57] <aluevera> hi
[06:57] <Andeh> So /tmp is the place to find biggish files?
[06:57] <gepatino> alekz: download the package from the repos save it in some media and install it using dpkg -i
[06:57] <mEck0> Has anyone tried to install Feisty from alternate amd64-cd? I tried it now but the partitioner-menu is buggy as hell :/ I can't even choose to manually edit the partition table. And the text in the menu is weird, and the menu-choises which is there are buggy to because if I i.e. chose guided partitioning, I can't get back or forward from that point for example :/
[06:57] <ant__> Andeh : no its where you find tmp files that usually get deleted every 10 days.
[06:58] <aluevera> i have a strange problem with firefox and synaptic, you can see it here: http://www.otaku-empire.de/pics/Bildschirmphoto1.png
[06:58] <aluevera> where is the problem
[06:58] <aluevera> ?
[06:58] <Andeh> ok, any command for deleting unused ones right now?
[06:58] <gepatino> Andeh: tmpreaper does that
[06:58] <varka__> anybody here who has an intel 965er chipset and problems with it and ubuntu?
[06:58] <Andeh> Cause my disk space is really low and windows wont like shrinking another 2 GB
[06:58] <Andeh> Ok
[06:58] <ravi_master> clearzen, thanks, doing a project for school right now
[06:58] <Andeh> Il try that
[06:58] <aluevera> can someone help?
[06:58] <Andeh> tmpreaper, command not found
[06:59] <Andeh> I need to install it?
[06:59] <JuJuBee> How do I tell apache to allow /home/user/public_html directories?  I cant http://server.name.com/~username
[06:59] <ant__> Andeh : ithink the program is called tmpwatch
[06:59] <axisme> clearzen: creating an imagine and burning it didnt help. K3B actually did see it had 49 MB on it though and created an image of it. Now I have a copy that plays on windows OK and wont play on linux  :-(
[06:59] <gepatino> Andeh: if you don't have install it: sudo apt-get install tmpreaper
[06:59] <Andeh> ok
[06:59] <Andeh> i have neither of those
[06:59] <Andeh> lol
[06:59] <ant__> Andeh : tmpwatch is the default one
[06:59] <ant__> oh
[06:59] <Capadac> any body know of a good snes emulator for linux
[06:59] <Andeh> it is tmpreaper
[07:00] <ardchoille> Capadac: I thought there was one in the repos
[07:00] <gepatino> Andeh: sorry, typo :(
[07:00] <PinkFloyd> Capadac: there's some in the repos
[07:00] <PinkFloyd> Capadac: Just search under games
[07:00] <Andeh> Not really? we spelt it the same
[07:00] <Capadac> thank you i have another question
[07:00] <aluevera> plz i need help where is the fault: http://www.otaku-empire.de/pics/Bildschirmphoto1.png
[07:01] <GhostFreeman> How do I kill apache2
[07:01] <Tibmol> !saa7134HL
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about saa7134hl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <aluevera> same in synaptic, too
[07:01] <Tibmol> !tv
[07:01] <t3soro> hey guys, before i go googling, does anyone have a reccomendation for ext3 drivers for XP?
[07:01] <ardchoille> GhostFreeman: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <Tomcat_> GhostFreeman: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop
[07:01] <Tibmol> grr
[07:01] <Capadac> i got a linksys wireless card and i need something to monitor it?
[07:01] <Tibmol> !tv cards
[07:01] <Tomcat_> Capadac: Monitor how?
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv cards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <Romexios> How do you renew your ip?
[07:01] <Tibmol> idiot bot :S
[07:01] <GhostFreeman> thanks!
[07:02] <ant__> !anything
[07:02] <Capadac> like so i can see the wireless networks and connect
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <Romexios> !renew_ip
[07:02] <ant__> that always makes me laugh
[07:02] <scv> well, off the topic, did you see a tv card with the pci-e?
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about renew_ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <nalioth> Tibmol: the bot works great, if you ask the right questions
[07:02] <nalioth> !msg the bot
[07:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:02] <ardchoille> ant__: And it's not good to do in a busy channel.
[07:02] <|thunder> Romexios; try ifdown and ifup to renew
[07:02] <ant__> ardchoille : thats why i do it when its not busy
[07:02] <Andeh> How do i use tmpreaper?
[07:02] <eimajenthat> hey, is there a way to make a directory show up on my desktop like another drive (the way a CD does)
[07:03] <ant__> everyone is at work
[07:03] <t3soro> !ext3
[07:03] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:03] <Andeh> I mean can someone explain, the --help things are hard to read and im new to this
[07:03] <Capadac> tomcat can i im you
[07:03] <Tomcat_> Capadac: Nope, sorry. No time.
[07:03] <Capadac> alright
[07:03] <Romexios> hmm
[07:04] <WereCatf> What could be wrong when Nautilus just complains something that it can't display the contents of the folder when trying to access a Windows share even when smbclient from the command line does work just fine?
[07:04] <Capadac> can anybody help me with my wireless card please?????
[07:04] <clearzen> ravi_master: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11689/ that should convert it to mpeg
[07:04] <agilman> can anyone please help me configure grub? the default settings messed up my boot loader :(
[07:04] <ant__> !wifi | Capadac
[07:04] <ubotu> Capadac: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:04] <sidny4> Capadac: Try installing network-manager-gnome, make sure everything except the loopback interface is commented out in you /etc/network/interfaces
[07:04] <Capadac> yes wifi
[07:05] <slashjamiec> hey, back. Couldnt sleep. 4am here, havent slept for 2 days, 21 hours.
[07:05] <slashjamiec> :)
[07:05] <slashjamiec> hey, back. Couldnt sleep. 4am here, havent slept for 2 days, 21 hours.
[07:05] <Ala1> can anyone help me with an install? or not an install as the case may be. I've never touched linux before
[07:05] <sidny4> slashjamiec: go sleep deprivation!
[07:05] <slashjamiec> lol! :P
[07:05] <ant__> slashjamiec : you need to run sudo sleep -h now
[07:05] <slashjamiec> haha, i tried man!
[07:06] <slashjamiec> sudo apt-get sleepingtablets
[07:06] <slashjamiec> didnt even work :(
[07:06] <ant__> then kill -9 everything
[07:06] <Romexios> |thunder: Not working, any other thing?
[07:06] <acphoton> quick question... i'm using kUbuntu and have partitioned my HD to have 3 partitions (my linux partition on hda1, my windows partition on hda2, and a data partition (ext3) on hda3).... i wanted to know how I can access my 3rd partition (data) from ubuntu
[07:06] <slashjamiec> killall *, didn't work either
[07:06] <ant__> heh
[07:06] <yell0w> acphoton, mount it
[07:07] <Nitro> How do I burn .cue files to a CD?
[07:07] <Ala1> no? nobody?
[07:07] <slashjamiec> Nitro: use xburn
[07:07] <sidny4> acphoton: add it to /etc/fstab to have it mounted automatically
[07:07] <Jon335> Is there any way to make gnome-terminal automatically copy text when it is highlighted (like in PuTTY)?
[07:08] <dyrne> acphoton: fstab controls what is mounted at bootup. you can mount a partition to a directory of your chioce manually as well
[07:08] <clearzen> Ala1: What help do you need?
[07:09] <Capadac> i tried the network manager and it helped thank every body
[07:09] <Ala1> Put the CD in, booted from it, Ubuntu logo comes up with a progress bar going back and forth and nothing else happens, tried check CD same thing happened
[07:09] <WereCatf> No one here knows how to get Nautilus to see windows shares?
[07:09] <PinkFloyd> !vnc
[07:09] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:09] <slashjamiec> ala1: i have that issue with my old laptop. are you running an older type pc?
[07:09] <fabiano> I unpacked the ff how i install now?
[07:09] <clearzen> Ala1: what version is the disk? Do you know?
[07:09] <rs8000> Along the lines of Jon335 question, anyone know how to make PuTTY syop automatically pasting and entering text that you copy on the next available line?
[07:09] <Ala1> Just downloaded it today, 6.10?
[07:10] <t3soro> WereCatf: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[07:10] <Andeh> OMG
[07:10] <Nitro> !xburn
[07:10] <slashjamiec> ala1: are you running an older type pc?
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xburn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <Nitro> .,..
[07:10] <clearzen> Ala1: What happens if you press ctrl+alt F2
[07:10] <slashjamiec> Nitro: "sudo apt-get install xburn"
[07:10] <Ala1> nope, Pentium 4
[07:10] <slashjamiec> oh, i see.
[07:10] <WereCatf> t3soro, how does that help me access windows shares? That's just a driver for NTFS partitions
[07:10] <Ala1> when the progress bar is showing?
[07:10] <Andeh> AUDACITY crashed and while it was crashing it filled the tmp folder with 1.5 GB!!! of junk files!
[07:10] <Ala1> I don't know - I'll try it
[07:10] <Andeh> No wonder i ran out of disk space
[07:10] <Nitro> slashjamiec: I searched for xburn in synaptic, but no hits.
[07:10] <clearzen> Ala1: It seems like it is hanging
[07:10] <t3soro> oh i thought thats what you meant sorry
[07:10] <slashjamiec> hm..
[07:11] <acphoton> what should I add to /etc/fstab in order to mount the partition automatically? :(
[07:11] <clearzen> Ala1: I want to know if you can get to a terminal
[07:11] <slashjamiec> Nitro: go to terminal and type "xburn".
[07:11] <sidny4> WereCatf: try going to places > Network Servers, it should be in there, at least it always has been for me
[07:11] <Ala1> ok, although I'm using the PC that I'm going to install it on to talk here!
[07:11] <Nitro> slashjamiec: Command not found.
[07:11] <clearzen> Oh, I see
[07:11] <slashjamiec> Nitro: ok
[07:11] <richdurhm> hey guys where do i find the directory like program files on windows?
[07:12] <yell0w> !fstab | acphoton
[07:12] <ubotu> acphoton: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:12] <richdurhm> in ubuntu
[07:12] <renz> does anyone know if there is an ubuntu package for openfire jabber server software?
[07:12] <slashjamiec> Nitro: "sudo apt-get install brasero" (Assuming you're running gnome)
[07:12] <clearzen> Ala1: how long have you let it run?
[07:12] <Ala1> anything else I should try before I reboot and try again?
[07:12] <WereCatf> sidny4, Nautilus just complains it can't access the contents
[07:12] <Ala1> about 10 minutes
[07:12] <acphoton> !Partitions
[07:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:12] <acphoton> thanks guys :)
[07:13] <Andeh> Whats the command to open volume control, or where is the menu in xfce?
[07:13] <richdurhm> hey guys is there a dir like program files in ubuntu? and how do i find it
[07:13] <slashjamiec> renz: http://planet.jabber.org/ should help you out for jabbet server needs for ubuntu.
[07:13] <WereCatf> richdurhm, not really, but the closest to it is /usr/bin
[07:13] <slashjamiec> richdurhm: go to terminal and type "thunar"
[07:13] <Nitro> slashjamiec: I'll try it out.
[07:13] <slashjamiec> Nitro: ok
[07:13] <Jon335> Is there any way to make gnome-terminal automatically copy text when it is highlighted (like in PuTTY)?
[07:13] <Nitro> Does it support .xmd and .xmf aswell?
[07:13] <clearzen> So did you double click the install button and it just hangs then?
[07:14] <slashjamiec> Nitro: Am unsure, but it's an all purpose cd/dvd burning app for gnome.
[07:14] <Andeh> Does anyone know where the menu in XFCE for volume control is? I know how to start it manually but im curious where they shoved it
[07:14] <fabiano> i unpacke the ff how i install now?
[07:14] <richdurhm> slash thunar didin't wokr says command not found
[07:14] <Ala1> yes, selected install or start
[07:14] <renz> slashjamiec: thanks, i'll check that out.
[07:14] <slashjamiec> richdurhm: "sudo apt-get install thunar".
[07:14] <Ala1> then the logo & progress bar came up and stayed there, bar still goes back and forwards though
[07:14] <slashjamiec> renz: no problems
[07:15] <clearzen> Ala1: You could restart your xsession and try again to see if it does the same thing. Ctrl+Alt backspace
[07:15] <WereCatf> slashjamiec, I think richdurhm is looking for a folder similar to C:\Program Files, not an actual file browser
[07:15] <richdurhm> slashjamiec,  thnx
[07:15] <AndrewB> !Broadcom
[07:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:15] <richdurhm> WereCatf, yes
[07:15] <clearzen> Ala1: If it does I would use the alternate cd which is a text based install
[07:15] <slashjamiec> Werecatf: oops, i thought he was looking for something to view files (states by him)
[07:15] <fabiano> i unpacke the ff how i install now?
[07:15] <Andeh> Does anyone know where the volume control in XFCE is??
[07:16] <Ala1> ok, I will be back in five minutes with some news
[07:16] <WereCatf> richdurhm, just for your information, there is no "Program Files" under linux anywhere. It is organized very differently
[07:16] <richdurhm> ya i see
[07:16] <me-> does anyone work with quanta and know how to stop this annoying auto file backup thing with a ~ at the end of the file name
[07:16] <slashjamiec> richdurhm: What are you looking for?
[07:16] <richdurhm> im trying to point my firefox downloaded to azureus
[07:16] <Xif> MPlayer will give me the best video playback quality, right?
[07:17] <hylje> think the closest thing to program files on linux is /opt
[07:17] <richdurhm> downlaoder
[07:17] <slashjamiec> Xif: i use gxine for video
[07:17] <WereCatf> richdurhm, look in /usr/bin
[07:17] <richdurhm> or do u guys recommend a good plug in for firefox downloads?
[07:17] <richdurhm> ya i did but nothing really that would work
[07:17] <Andeh> Yes, press CTRL + J for the best plugin
[07:17] <slashjamiec> richdurhm: i thought you wanted a file manager to view your files. Weird :S... Must be just me reading things incorrectly.
[07:18] <fabiano> i unpacked the firefox how i install now?
[07:18] <WereCatf> richdurhm, if you have azureus installed, there will be /usr/bin/azureus
[07:18] <WereCatf> But azureus is only for torrent files..
[07:18] <Xif> slashjamiec: do you think it is better than MPlayer?
[07:18] <richdurhm> WereCatf,  yes but it is a script
[07:18] <spikeb> Xif, no it isnt
[07:18] <Xif> how should I configure MPlayer for best video playback quality?
[07:18] <me-> think i found it ty anyways
[07:18] <Andeh> What is the command for volume control??
[07:18] <Veinor> I want to set up two things: A) I want my desktop wallpaper to change every X minutes. B) I want to have different wallpapers on my viewports. Are these mutually exclusive, and how can I set those up?
[07:19] <Andeh> ??
[07:19] <WereCatf> richdurhm, and? what's wrong with scripts?
[07:19] <slashjamiec> Xif: i have personal views on applications, to what my standards are. I Don't know what yours are.
[07:19] <WereCatf> Andeh, on the console you could type "alsamixer"
[07:19] <richdurhm> WereCatf,  ok it worked
[07:19] <Xif> slashjamiec: with a video player, my only requirement is playback quality?
[07:19] <Andeh> Thanjs
[07:19] <ambimom> Xif: Right click GUI of MPlayer >Preferrences>Video you will see a list of available drivers just clicking or selecting any enables the driver, select each one by one and see if your video plays, that is how I got mine to work.
[07:19] <fabiano> the ff is unpacked how i install now?
[07:19] <richdurhm> WereCatf,  i dunno was afraid to since i am so new to linux ubuntu so i didn't wnat to mess anything up
[07:19] <Andeh> the xfce console doesnt autocomplete so
[07:19] <slashjamiec> Xif: Mplayer then :)
[07:20] <HipotermiA> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXImwwoDUus
[07:20] <Jon335> Is there any way to make gnome-terminal automatically copy text when it is highlighted (like in PuTTY)?
[07:20] <WereCatf> richdurhm, well, again, for your information, scripts work just the same as any binary application :)
[07:20] <Xif> ambimom, slashjamiec: I did, and I got the gl2, but is there a way to configure it for better quality?
[07:20] <WereCatf> Jon335, AFAIK no
[07:20] <sanityx> Jon335, you know you can compile putty under linux if you want.
[07:20] <ambimom> xif:  don't think so...
[07:20] <Xif> maybe there's a better driver than gl2?
[07:20] <WereCatf> Xif, use Xv rather than gl2
[07:20] <slashjamiec> Xif: I wouldn't know
[07:20] <HipotermiA> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXImwwoDUus
[07:20] <richdurhm> WereCatf,  ok i did what u said but azureus isn't picking up the torrent
[07:21] <richdurhm> but it did open azureus?
[07:21] <Jon335> sanityx, I don't even need to compile it, it's in a repo
[07:21] <WereCatf> Xv is higher quality and it's faster
[07:21] <slashjamiec> Xif: i personally use Totem with xine on my systems. :S
[07:21] <sanityx> Well there you go.
[07:21] <richdurhm> WereCatf,  do u recommend a downlaod plugin for firefox?
[07:21] <Xif> WereCatf: thanks. is there a good tutorial about configuring MPlayer to deliver the best video quality?
[07:21] <Jon335> sanityx, the only problem is, that feature doesn't work
[07:21] <WereCatf> richdurhm, nope, I don't use firefox so I don't know
[07:21] <ambimom> slashjamiec, xif:  I use totem for most stuff too
[07:21] <sanityx> wow
[07:21] <sanityx> haha
[07:21] <richdurhm> WereCatf,  oh ok thxn man
[07:21] <slashjamiec> ambimom: cool.
[07:21] <fabiano> oi
[07:21] <fabiano> oi
[07:22] <WereCatf> Xif, not really, but there's a few settings you could do, like for example set the "Enable postprocessing" to on
[07:22] <slashjamiec> Xif: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=514974&page=6
[07:22] <Lord_Maynoth> hello
[07:22] <Lord_Maynoth> I was wondering
[07:22] <slashjamiec> Xif: That link should help you in deciding what's best.
[07:22] <Lord_Maynoth> is there some way to zero out drives on linux
[07:22] <Xif> slashjamiec: ah, thank thee
[07:22] <WereCatf> Xif, and perhaps set the "Auto quality" to something like 10 at first, and move it up as much as your hw can handle it
[07:22] <Lord_Maynoth> overright every bit with zeros
[07:22] <Veinor> I want to set up two things: A) I want my desktop wallpaper to change every X minutes. B) I want to have different wallpapers on my viewports. Are these mutually exclusive, and how can I set those up?
[07:22] <slashjamiec> Xif: no probs
[07:23] <fabiano> i unpacked the ff how i install now?
[07:24] <ambimom> fabiano: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[07:24] <slashjamiec> Veinor: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/01/random-wallpaper-in-gnome/
[07:24] <Xif> WereCatf: thanks, trying it.
[07:24] <slashjamiec> Veinor: That should help.
[07:24] <ravi_master> clearzen, didn't really work for me, found convert-video nautilus script
[07:25] <ravi_master> clearzen, works awesome, uses ffmpeg zenity mencoder and you can right click on files in nautilus and get a little convert menu item
[07:26] <WereCatf> Lord_Maynoth, you want to completely zero some drive?
[07:27] <chrisrummy> i just wanted to say thanks for all the help got both monitors up and running thanks again im sure ill be back
[07:27] <WereCatf> Lord_Maynoth, if it is for some security purposes or such, you could perhaps do first "dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/yourhddhere" followed by "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourhddhere"
[07:28] <slashjamiec> chrisrummy: I hope everything goes well! We're always here!
[07:29] <chrisrummy> now if ubuntu will only run eq2 ill never leave
[07:29] <clearzen> ravi_master: Sorry I couldn't be more help. you should send me that script though
[07:29] <Stormx2> Hey folks. Used ubuntu 6.06 live cd to shrink an ntfs partition containing windows 2000, and created 2 further ext3/swap partitions. it looked like it worked, but now the fs can't be recognised on any of the partitions and my bios won't boot windows (can't find operating system). Any suggestions? The mobo won't boot burnt cds..
[07:30] <ravi_master> clearzen: here it is: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62625&highlight=video-convert
[07:30] <slashjamiec> chrisrummy: You want eq2 to run yeah?
[07:30] <WereCatf> Stormx2, uh-oh
[07:30] <chrisrummy> oh yea
[07:30] <clearzen> ravi_master: Nice, I'll look through it later. Thanks
[07:31] <Andeh> Hello. I am correct that there is no program for linux that offers all the features of Live Messenger? (MSN that is)
[07:31] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know a way to completely zero out or low level format in edgy?
[07:31] <WereCatf> Andeh, you're correct
[07:31] <Andeh> Yay, first time today
[07:31] <Stormx2> WereCatf: Any suggestions?
[07:31] <WereCatf> Lord_Maynoth, I did already answer you
[07:31] <slashjamiec> Andeh: aMSN Replicates it.
[07:32] <ambimom> Andeh:  there's plenty of alternatives...I use www.meebo.com
[07:32] <slashjamiec> Andeh: Although it's pretty crap
[07:32] <WereCatf> Stormx2, I only know I would try running gpart, which might help
[07:32] <NickGarvey> how do I change my sudo password?
[07:32] <Lord_Maynoth> oh
[07:32] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[07:32] <chrisrummy> is there a way to get everquest 2 to run in ubuntu, dont tease me
[07:32] <Lord_Maynoth> wow runs
[07:32] <slashjamiec> "man passwd" to change sudo pass
[07:32] <Lord_Maynoth> check winehq.com
[07:33] <slashjamiec> Yeah, i heard wine runs it < www.winehw.com
[07:33] <LightCatcher> Is there a way to edit GNOME themes through a GUI? I just want to change one colour, so that "greyed out" options in context-sensitive menus are easier to read.
[07:33] <slashjamiec> NickGarvey: type "man passwd" in your terminal.
[07:34] <spikeb> you can also use the gui config tool instead of reading a manual page.
[07:34] <ambimom> Lightcatcher:  use this it worked for me  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=47349
[07:34] <Uranellus> is there an easy way to open ssh port on a kubuntu box ?
[07:34] <ambimom> lightcatcher:  gnome color chooser
[07:35] <ecker> need me some help ...  i have my wireless card installed according to ndiswapper says the drivers installe and the hardware is present, along with lspci, anyhow iwconfig , ifconfig does not show anything about wlan0 heres my paste.bin  http://ace.pastey.net/9057-3pja
[07:35] <slashjamiec> Uranellus: Do you want to open the ssh port, or actually run an ssh service?
[07:35] <LightCatcher> ambimom: Thank you, I'll try that.
[07:35] <khally> i need to get a list for a subnet of ip addresses, mac address for that ip, and windows computer name for that ip... anyone know a good way of doing that
[07:35] <Uranellus> slashjamiec: well .. I want to be able to connect to the kubuntu box using ssh, didn't check yet if the service is started..
[07:36] <slashjamiec> Okay, I'm assuming you want to put ssh onto the box.
[07:36] <FordCapri> my libapache-modldap isntallation ended with /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache-mod-ldap.postinst: 74: let: not found
[07:36] <FordCapri> is there anything to worry about
[07:36] <FordCapri> it still can't parse my config file
[07:36] <slashjamiec> Uranellus: "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[07:37] <slashjamiec> Then to test if it's working, ssh into your own system by: > ssh localhost
[07:37] <slashjamiec> The authenticity of host localhost (127.0.0.1) cant be established.
[07:37] <slashjamiec> RSA key fingerprint is 98:8a:b8:b2:9e:8a:84:e0:d4:08:27:fb:74:f0:de:d4.
[07:37] <slashjamiec> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
[07:37] <chris_> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[07:37] <Uranellus> slashjamiec: you don't have to give me the details, I'm not new to linux, but to ubuntu
[07:37] <Uranellus> slashjamiec: actually i just wanted to know if there is an easy way to open the ssh port in the firewall
[07:38] <slashjamiec> So, instead of running ssh, you now want to open a port on a firewall? Okay.
[07:38] <Uranellus> slashjamiec: i want to open the firewall for ssh and run a ssh_deamon_
[07:39] <slashjamiec> okay, well... for the shh daemon, run apt-get install ssh. then open a port on your firewall (if any)
[07:40] <Uranellus> slashjamiec: well that was my question from the beginning, how to i open the port 22 for incomming traffic ?
[07:40] <slashjamiec> Software firewall, or hardware?
[07:40] <Uranellus> slashjamiec: the firewall on the ubuntu system
[07:40] <Uranellus> slashjamiec: therefore software firewall
[07:41] <rigau> holas
[07:41] <finalbeta> Uranellus: Ubuntu doesn't have a firewall
[07:41] <finalbeta> it has no open ports by default, so you don't need a firewall.
[07:41] <slashjamiec> Uranellus: Ok, by default it doesnt have a firewall
[07:42] <slashjamiec> Uranellus: if any closed port occur, iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:42] <finalbeta> In windows you would still use one, since windows has proper firewalls that do mor then just layer 3 checking. But nix doesn't have any such firewall that I know for desktop users.
[07:42] <Uranellus> finalbeta: well if the ports are closed, how would you call that?
[07:42] <slashjamiec> As stated, it doesn't have one by default. If you tend to have any other issues reguarding firewall issues, try running "netstat -an | grep "LISTEN ".
[07:43] <finalbeta> Uranellus: no servers running.
[07:43] <Uranellus> finalbeta: iptables is a paket filter, well close enough to a firewall
[07:43] <finalbeta> yes, layer 3 or 4
[07:43] <finalbeta> but not by default
[07:43] <finalbeta> so you changed something, installed firestarter or something
[07:44] <slashjamiec> To open a port for iptables, layer 3 or 4, try running "Uranellus: if any closed port occur, iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" in your terminal.
[07:44] <Uranellus> well I'm gonne try to install ssh and start the ssh deamon .. and then see if i can connect to the ubuntu box
[07:44] <Uranellus> slashjamiec: ack that
[07:44] <slashjamiec> "ack" ?
[07:44] <aoirthoir> Uranellus: that is easy
[07:44] <LjL> slashjamiec: acknowledge
[07:44] <Uranellus> slashjamiec: acknowledged
[07:44] <finalbeta> simply installing an app and having it properly bind to a port worked for me.
[07:44] <LjL> it's network speak, but it means "ok" :)
[07:45] <aoirthoir> Uranellus: follow these instructions for most things www.ubunutuguide.org ...for ssh it think it is just sudo apt-get install ssh
[07:45] <slashjamiec> Uranellus: ok
[07:45] <Uranellus> thanks you all .. i'll see how it works out
[07:45] <Death_Sargent> hey I am having double instances of startup programs does anyone know what i should edit
[07:45] <slashjamiec> Cool =)
[07:45] <Death_Sargent> is there a specific file for this
[07:45] <LjL> !startup | perhaps
[07:45] <slashjamiec> What window manager are you using?
[07:45] <ubotu> perhaps: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[07:45] <chrisrummy> ok it says i have wine but where is it i cant find it
[07:46] <Death_Sargent> the gnome interface is not helping
[07:46] <slashjamiec> /usr/bin/wine/
[07:46] <slone> hello to all. Please, say haw-to capture video from the screen.
[07:46] <slashjamiec> Death_Sargent: i hate interfaces also
[07:46] <LjL> !istanbul | slone
[07:46] <ubotu> slone: istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[07:46] <harry_> Can I set it so that Ubuntu only allows one instance of a program? I keep clicking on the "launch Gaim" shortcut instaed of the status icon.
[07:46] <Death_Sargent> Well the interface claims that its not doing this more than once
[07:47] <harry_> So then it launches two and disconnects me
[07:47] <LjL> harry_: i don't think... it depends more on the program itself
[07:47] <slashjamiec> !startup | Death_Sargent
[07:47] <ubotu> Death_Sargent: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[07:47] <LjL> weird that gaim would not check for a running instance first
[07:47] <Death_Sargent> I want to remove them
[07:47] <slashjamiec> LjL: Gaim is weird like that.
[07:47] <Death_Sargent> I adde them that way and now they are doubled up
[07:47] <LjL> heh
[07:47] <spikeb> gaim never ever checks for that heh
[07:47] <slone> Thanks
[07:47] <spikeb> i HATE that
[07:47] <Death_Sargent> even ones i delete still auto run
[07:47] <slashjamiec> spikeb: agreed
[07:47] <harry_> it's annoying that MSN only lets you be in one place at a time... facists
[07:48] <LjL> harry_, watch the language
[07:48] <slashjamiec> harry_: i run an msn for each one of my systems. So my friends can contact me whether im at work, on one pc, the laptop, or another :)
[07:48] <slashjamiec> !language | harry_
[07:48] <ubotu> harry_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:49] <spikeb> is fascist a swear word now? :)
[07:49] <slashjamiec> lol .. it's offensive.
[07:49] <spikeb> heh, i spend too much time in political channels on IRC, i would have never thought of that.
[07:50] <Kooka> Running Windows 3.11 for Workgroups [ Intel Cyrix 166MhZ - 32 Mb Ram  5GB Harddisk] 
[07:50] <slashjamiec> lol
[07:50] <slashjamiec> Kooka: LOL!
[07:50] <Death_Sargent> anyone know what file i edit to manually change startup programs please no more links to how to do it in gnome
[07:50] <chrisrummy> ok slash i ran the wine then it said couldnt load the windows system32 program.exe
[07:50] <Death_Sargent> If that way worked i would be using it
[07:50] <Ax3> [14:50:01]  [netham45:#ubuntu VERSION] 
[07:50] <Ax3> lol oh nvm
[07:50] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> HEY, how do i install MTA
[07:50] <PriceChild> Ax3, don't wo rry :)
[07:50] <Ax3> guys dealt with it already haha
[07:50] <slashjamiec> chrisrummy: ugh, Im not all that pro  with wine. All i know is where it's located, how to install it, and thats it.
[07:51] <Kooka> slashjamiec?
[07:51] <xto7> Helo! i hope somebody help me to choose the best router for ubuntu to make a adsl conection to my little netw... please help me doing the decition
[07:51] <slashjamiec> Kooka: I thought your pc specs are cool
[07:51] <KillerX>  If xev can't detect a keypress is all hope lost?
[07:51] <Kooka> yea
[07:51] <Kooka> fastes pc on earth
[07:51] <slashjamiec> Kooka: LOL!!
[07:51] <spikeb> windows for workgroups!
[07:51] <spikeb> bah, NT 3.51 all the way.
[07:51] <slashjamiec> Kooka: I work amongst them pc's on a daily basis in the office.
[07:52] <Kooka> maybe i shoult buy a new one
[07:52] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> HEY, how do i install MTA
[07:52] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> HEY, how do i install MTA
[07:52] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> oops
[07:52] <Kooka> should
[07:52] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> sorry
[07:52] <slashjamiec> Kooka: Maybe you should. And get ubuntu :)
[07:52] <Kooka> :P
[07:53] <slashjamiec> Are you seriously running 3.11 ? on a pentium 1 133mhz (no mmx support!) and 32mb SO-DIMM ram!?
[07:53] <Paradigm_Shift> Hi. Any running feisty herd 4 with wine?
[07:53] <PriceChild> !feisty | Paradigm_Shift
[07:53] <ubotu> Paradigm_Shift: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:53] <slashjamiec> Paradihm_Shift: i don't run beta's
[07:53] <slashjamiec> Paradihm_Shift: i don't run beta's
[07:54] <PriceChild> Paradigm_Shift, wine doesn't emulate an entire OS, it just replicates windows
[07:54] <PriceChild> Paradigm_Shift, provides a compatability layer for win32 apps
[07:54] <Kooka> all ppl always laughing about my sys specs =(
[07:54] <slashjamiec> It replicates the windows directorys, and acts as a compability layer for windows systems.
[07:54] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> HEY, how do i install MTA
[07:54] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> HEY, how do i install MTA
[07:54] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> HEY, how do i install MTA
[07:54] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> HEY, how do i install MTA
[07:54] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> grrr
[07:54] <Kooka> oO
[07:54] <slashjamiec> Dont scrool
[07:54] <slashjamiec> Kooka: Awww.. Sorry.
[07:54] <Paradigm_Shift> PriceChild: I am aware. I am running Herd 4 and have wine installed. It appears to have broken after updating
[07:54] <Kooka> hehe np :D
[07:55] <lorsche> how do i find out if i have herd 5 or beta installed?
[07:55] <xto7> helo someboby answer to me please
[07:55] <LjL> DiGiTaL-DoMaiN, try to not make that flooding mistake again please
[07:55] <PriceChild> Paradigm_Shift, Ah I didn't understand the question :)
[07:55] <lorsche> i mean after the updates and all shouldn't herd5 upgrade to beta?
[07:55] <Paradigm_Shift> I am trying to fix the broken install of Wine
[07:55] <erika> My kdm display Manager not starting.. problem with the theme i just put new splash-login theme. but its krupt.. now i m running my Ubuntu in recovery mode. how can i solve my issue?
[07:56] <Menasim1> I think there is a problem with the update server
[07:56] <Menasim1> there is an MD5 sum mismatch
[07:56] <slashjamiec> lorsche: the update won't install the beta by default. I don't think ubuntu supports beta's in the repostories.
[07:56] <slashjamiec> Damn bots.
[07:56] <wyndblade> I hate bots.....
[07:57] <dystopianray> hey, you'll make ubotu sad
[07:57] <lorsche> slashjamiec: i had herd 5 installed. but how do i find out exactly what build i am running?
[07:57] <slashjamiec> Yeah!
[07:57] <wyndblade> ubotu is a near AI, not a bot :P
[07:57] <slashjamiec> okay, 1 tic lorsche
[07:57] <erika> can anyone help me with kdm display manager? i just start my ubuntu on recovery mode.
[07:57] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> LjL, sorry
[07:57] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> how do i install a mail server
[07:58] <Paradigm_Shift> a bot a dollar short and a day late
[07:58] <Paradigm_Shift> folks, I am here all week
[07:59] <erika> My kdm display Manager not starting.. problem with the theme i just put new splash-login theme. but its krupt.. now i m running my Ubuntu in recovery mode. how can i solve my issue? on normal mode my ubuntu not going start give me error .. login theme is corrupt.
[08:00] <chrisrummy> ok got both monitors workin now i would like to have diff backgrounds on each is that possible
[08:00] <slashjamiec> Lorsche: i wouldn't know :(
[08:00] <lorsche> slashjamiec: thanks for taking the trouble.
[08:00] <gvx> anyone know what the default root login and password is for a live ubuntu cd
[08:00] <gvx> trying to manage cups settings
[08:00] <dystopianray> gvx: there isn't one, use sudo
[08:01] <slashjamiec> lorsche: no probs, sorry i couldnt help
[08:01] <wyndblade> !root | GVX
[08:01] <ubotu> GVX: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:01] <nox-Hand> grub-install failed :|
[08:01] <nox-Hand> Tried both on hd0 and hd1
[08:01] <nox-Hand> What do I do?
[08:01] <erika> !kdm
[08:01] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[08:02] <skulrid> is there anything closer to MSN messenger rather than GAIN internet messenger?
[08:02] <gvx> ubotu: when I changed printer settings in cups from A4 paper to Letter and apply I am prompted for username and password
[08:02] <ubotu> when: minimalistic personal calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 124 kB
[08:02] <nox-Hand> Help :o
[08:02] <gvx> root with no password doesn't work neither does root root
[08:02] <wyndblade> skulrid: try kopete?
[08:02] <slashjamiec> lorsche: go to terminal and type "herd -v"
[08:03] <slashjamiec> gvx: man passwd
[08:03] <erika> plz someone can help ? to fix with gdm default theme? i want to set default theme back? just want to start my ubuntu on normal mode
[08:03] <xto7> i looking for a router for ubuntu please help me chooose one
[08:03] <dyrne> skulrid: ive not used amsn but you might prefer it
[08:03] <jrib> !cupsweb |
[08:03] <ubotu> : To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart". Also, see !cups
[08:03] <lorsche> slashjamiec: command not found
[08:03] <jrib> gvx: above was for you :)
[08:03] <lorsche> !herd
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about herd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <slashjamiec> lorsche: you were talking about herd or something weren't you?
[08:04] <slashjamiec> lorsche: what package do you want to check?
[08:04] <gvx> !cupsweb
[08:04] <ubotu> To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart". Also, see !cups
[08:04] <skulrid> ok, thnks for the tips ;)
[08:04] <dyrne> adduser cupsys shadow?  what we dont even have to useradd -G anymore?
[08:05] <blackest> any idea why port 80 isn't connecting to the outside world while this is
[08:05] <jrib> blackest: your isp may block it
[08:05] <lorsche> slashjamiec: the beta was released today and i had downloaded a large update few days back. i want to know if the ubuntu version is feisty beta or herd 5
[08:05] <erika> plz someone can help ? to fix with gdm default theme? i want to set default theme back? just want to start my ubuntu on normal mode
[08:05] <slashjamiec> lorsche: OH 1 TIC
[08:05] <dyrne> erika: gksudo gdmsetup if i understand the question
[08:05] <soundray> erika: System-Administration-Login WIndow
[08:06] <slashjamiec> lorsche: go to terminal and type "cat /proc/version"
[08:06] <Kevlar_Soul> WHat program do I use to fake my mac address on a network, alter how a network sees this computer????????
[08:06] <erika> i just start my Ubuntu on Recovery mode..
[08:06] <blackest> jrib yeah but port 80 is web
[08:06] <Pricey> Kevlar_Soul, What is it that you are trying to achieve?
[08:06] <erika> soundray,  in recovermode there is no System-Administration-login window
[08:07] <nox-Hand> Herd5 install, Grub install fails. How might I fix or bypass? are there other things it has to do after this one?
[08:07] <jrib> gvx: are you using the web interface for cups or the gnome program?
[08:07] <gvx> ubotu: ok I did that in a terminal... added user cupsys to group shadow...done and rezstarted commonunix printing system: cupsd
[08:07] <erika> now how can i change ? or select default
[08:07] <slashjamiec> lorsche: go to terminal and type "cat /proc/version"
[08:07] <Pricey> !feisty | nox-Hand
[08:07] <lorsche> slashjamiec: it gives the kernel and gcc version
[08:07] <ubotu> nox-Hand: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:07] <Fortis>      ?
[08:07] <ferronica> LjL: now okay
[08:07] <gvx> jrib: yes 127.0.0.1:631
[08:07] <soundray> erika: edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[08:07] <erika> hm ok
[08:08] <LjL> !ru | Fortis
[08:08] <ubotu> Fortis:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:08] <slashjamiec> lorsche: "look at the /etc/lsb-release file, which should tell you explicitly what version of Ubuntu is installed, its codename, and its version number."
[08:08] <ferronica> LjL: now okay
[08:08] <jrib> gvx: ok, as long as your user is in the lpadmin group, you should be able to log into cups with your user's username and passowrd
[08:08] <Fortis> ok
[08:08] <ferronica> How to install .tar.gz Theme
[08:08] <gdi2k> Hi, does anyone have any LTSP experience here?
[08:08] <gvx> I am running off the live 6.10 cd default image
[08:08] <lorsche> slashjamiec: cat /etc/lsb-release gives fesity(development branch) not the exact branch version.
[08:08] <gvx> not sure what user it is
[08:09] <GodSyn> help : <<noob>> Upon inserting a DVD (unreal 2k4 editors chioce) it is automounted, and displays as blank (new write cd box) in Nautilus. Fresh install. Any insight would be helpful (drive is @ latest firmware, Plextor 716a).
[08:09] <gvx> nm ubuntu@ubuntu
[08:09] <jrib> gvx: default user is "ubuntu"
[08:09] <slashjamiec> lorsche: ok
[08:09] <ferronica> When i dra and drop it in Theme it give me error message
[08:09] <ferronica> When i drag and drop it in Theme it give me error message
[08:09] <jrib> gvx: password is empty/blank
[08:09] <erika> soundray,  i open the file now what should i edit there?
[08:10] <soundray> erika: find the line GraphicalTheme=(something) and change it to GraphicalTheme=Human
[08:10] <slashjamiec> lorsche: Try "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" or "cat /etc/issue".
[08:10] <gvx> hmmm tried username=ubuntu password=blank but still comes back up for login
[08:10] <Kevlar_Soul> Pricey I want to have control over the information seen on the network from my computer.
[08:10] <GodSyn> ferronica: common issue. It is improperly setup to be imported via gnome-art. You may be able to extract the contents of the file via arc, and attempt to drag that into gnome-art.
[08:10] <soundray> gvx: you want to setup autologin?
[08:10] <jrib> gvx: what is the output of 'groups' at the terminal?
[08:10] <erika> soundray, ya done it? just save the file and Reboot machine?
[08:10] <GodSyn> help : <<noob>> Upon inserting a DVD (unreal 2k4 editors chioce) it is automounted, and displays as blank (new write cd box) in Nautilus. Fresh install. Any insight would be helpful (drive is @ latest firmware, Plextor 716a).
[08:10] <slashjamiec> lorsche: If both fail, "lsb_release -a" that will work too
[08:10] <slashjamiec> lorsche: If both fail, "lsb_release -a" that will work too
[08:10] <soundray> erika: yes, should work.
[08:11] <BUMBACL0T> anyone here running sarge?
[08:11] <ferronica> GodSyn: what :(
[08:11] <erika> soundray,  thanks let me try
[08:11] <soundray> BUMBACL0T: /join #debian for sarge
[08:11] <kane77> BUMBACL0T, why?
[08:11] <ferronica> GodSyn: i have downloded from here ----> http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=new&page=0
[08:11] <gvx> jrib: how do I display my group?
[08:11] <jrib> gvx: the 'groups' command lists the groups your user is in
[08:11] <billytwowilly> hmm. so how do I find out who owns a freenode channel?
[08:11] <Pricey> billytwowilly, /msg chanserv info #channel
[08:12] <lorsche> slashjamiec: "development branch". no further detail.
[08:12] <GodSyn> ferronica:  you are attempting to drag a compressed package into the application, no?
[08:12] <ferronica> GodSyn: 55115-Emerald-Emerald.tar.gz
[08:12] <slashjamiec> lorsche: did you try "lsb_release -a" ?
[08:12] <Pricey> Kevlar_Soul, and how will changing your mac address aid that?
[08:12] <ferronica> GodSyn: i just double clicked it , a new window opens
[08:12] <lorsche> slashjamiec: i will just download the beat and check if there is anything to upgrade.
[08:12] <Kevlar_Soul> Pricey that is just one of the bits of info sent out.
[08:12] <lorsche> slashjamiec: yes.
[08:12] <ferronica> GodSyn: i think extracted one
[08:13] <slashjamiec> lorsche: sorry if i couldnt help. it's 5am here :P.. All the best
[08:13] <gvx> jrib: my terminal displays ubuntu@ubuntu ...is the second ubuntu my group?
[08:13] <GodSyn> ferronica: are you using kubuntu, or in KDE? ubuntu by default boots into gnome.
[08:13] <gvx> sorry newb
[08:13] <Pricey> Kevlar_Soul, I'm sorry I can't help you.
[08:13] <gvx> <-
[08:13] <jrib> gvx: no, type the word "groups" without quotes and press enter
[08:13] <gvx> k
[08:13] <lorsche> slashjamiec: thanks. goodnight.
[08:13] <GodSyn> help : <<noob>> Upon inserting a DVD (unreal 2k4 editors chioce) it is automounted, and displays as blank (new write cd box) in Nautilus. Fresh install. Any insight would be helpful (drive is @ latest firmware, Plextor 716a).
[08:13] <slashjamiec> the secondary ubuntu will be your host
[08:14] <slashjamiec> gvx: second ubuntu is your host.
[08:14] <ferronica> GodSyn: i am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[08:14] <slashjamiec> gvx: or box. whatever you want to call it
[08:14] <gvx> I got ubuntu adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[08:14] <slashjamiec> ferronica: I'm using ubuntu 6.10 :)
[08:14] <Kevlar_Soul> Pricey what can you do?
[08:14] <GodSyn> ferronica: gnome or KDE as a "desktop" enviroment?
[08:14] <ferronica> GodSyn: i think GNOME
[08:15] <GodSyn> ok, that "theme" is for KDE.
[08:15] <jrib> gvx: hmmm, maybe cups doesn't allow blank passwords (guessing).  How come you are using this on the livecd instead of in an installed ubuntu?
[08:15] <gvx> just testing it out
[08:16] <ferronica> GodSyn: Is there any way to use it???
[08:16] <Menasim1> I think there is a problem with the update server
[08:16] <clparker> print servers wont allow null passwords
[08:16] <Menasim1> when updating to 7.04
[08:16] <jrib> gvx: ok, maybe you can try to set a password for your user, use the 'passwd' command
[08:16] <gvx> jrib: I really want to install and create my own edubuntu image for our school but I haven't gotten that far yet
[08:16] <gvx> ubunutu user = admin
[08:16] <gvx> ?
[08:17] <ferronica> GodSyn: have you opened that link from where i have downloded it
[08:17] <GodSyn> ferronica: yes, I have.
[08:17] <ferronica> GodSyn: there written for GNOME
[08:17] <ecker> Can some take a look at this paste.bin and tell me whats going on, im trying to get this wireless PCI card to work with ndiswrapper  http://ace.pastey.net/9069
[08:17] <asc> Is it possibly to install GNOME without too many random extras? (e.g. gnome-games, evolution, etc.)
[08:17] <ferronica> GodSyn: thats why i have downloded
[08:17] <jrib> gvx: effectively, yes.  I'll send you info about "sudo" which lets a user have the privileges of root (the admin account)
[08:17] <jrib> !sudo > gvx    (gvx, see the private message from ubotu)
[08:18] <gvx> passwrd: authentication failed
[08:18] <brandesque> hi there
[08:18] <gvx> passwrd: password unchanged
[08:18] <ferronica> GodSyn: In big bold letter written for GNOME :(
[08:18] <jrib> gvx: did you leave a blank password for "current"?
[08:18] <gvx> k got it ran passwd as sudo
[08:18] <trumpet_thief> Ubuntu crashed during a graphics driver install and now it wont boot error in zorg file. What od I need to edit to get it workingagain
[08:19] <jrib> gvx: you can change it in system > preferences > about me > password   too if it is easier
[08:19] <GodSyn> ferronica: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100 (you seem to be looking for GTK2.0 (gnome) themes.)
[08:19] <dyrne> asc: gnome by definition is 'too many random extras' :)
[08:19] <sanityx> Hi, question about the Ubuntu server iso. I used a 6.06 iso last time I installed ubuntu server, and I had the option to Install the server or install a LAMP server. I downloaded the 6.10 iso but I don't see the lamp server option. Is that correct or have i somehow downloaded the wrong iso twice?
[08:19] <kbrooks> is ubuntu 7.04 beta out?
[08:19] <joshmoz> if I have Feisty Herd 5 installed I can just do package updates to get the beta right?
[08:19] <joshmoz> kbrooks: yes
[08:19] <jrib> kbrooks: #ubuntu+1 for feisty (yes)
[08:20] <soundray> trumpet_thief: see if you have any backup conf files: 'ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*'
[08:20] <jrib> joshmoz: #ubuntu+1 for feisty (yes)
[08:20] <PinkBunny> kbrooks: check the topic, I am torrenting it myself as we speak :)
[08:20] <trumpet_thief> i think i do have a backup up. How do I change it to the default
[08:20] <hateyla> soundray, thanks man. it works. now running normal fine. well i have another thing.. there is no shutdown or reboot option in quit tab. can i add shutdown or reboot option? anyhow? in quit tab i have just 3 options there. SwitchUser, log0ff, lockScreen..
[08:20] <ferronica> GodSyn: what is GTK :(
[08:20] <asc> dyrne: Hehe, well.  GDM's not working quite right, and it doesn't want to 'startx ion3'.  I figure installing GNOME will at least fix GDM ;p
[08:20] <gvx> jrib: I did sudo passwd then it prompted twice for password but I guess that set the root password..I was now able to login using root then new password but how do I specify which user gets password change?
[08:21] <jrib> gvx: passwd USERNAME
[08:21] <soundray> trumpet_thief: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-some-backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:21] <dyrne> asc: an altertative might be xubuntu-desktop since that installs gdm as well
[08:21] <gvx> k
[08:21] <PinkBunny> asc: you installed server version ?
[08:21] <gvx> jrib: thanks a million
[08:21] <trumpet_thief> cool
[08:21] <jrib> gvx: np, are you new to linux or just ubuntu?
[08:22] <dystopianray> success, feisty beta hit digg front page
[08:22] <asc> PinkBunny: Yeah.  And It might not be working quite right, but it boots in *eighteen seconds*
[08:22] <asc> dyrne: Hmm, choices, choices.
[08:22] <gvx> jrib: all around newb
[08:22] <soundray> erika: this usually occurs when you have two or more X servers running.
[08:22] <ziro01> hey
[08:22] <taigeR_> hello
[08:22] <GodSyn> ferronica: "The gtk+ package contains the GIMP ToolKit (GTK+), a library for creating graphical user interfaces for the X Window System. GTK+ was originally written for the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) image processing program, but is now used by several other programs as well. If you are planning on using the GIMP or another program that uses GTK+, you'll need to have the gtk+ package installed." (googled)
[08:23] <gvx> jrib: I know windows but that is useless
[08:23] <erika> soundray,  how can i check how much X servers running? ps -ef |grep X ?
[08:23] <asc> Well, mostly I figured I could avoid some unecessary packages that I never knew existed this way.
[08:23] <ziro01> secret
[08:23] <taigeR_> secret
[08:23] <jrib> gvx: help.ubuntu.com is a great place to learn the basics of how stuff works in ubuntu (it's the same documentation you have in your help menu but online).  If you want to learn more about the command line then the following wiki article is a good intro and links to other useful references:
[08:23] <soundray> erika: yes, that would be one way. Or Ctrl-Alt-F7 (F8, F9)
[08:23] <jrib> !cli | gvx
[08:23] <ubotu> gvx: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:23] <GodSyn> help : <<noob>> Upon inserting a DVD (unreal 2k4 editors chioce) it is automounted, and displays as blank (new write cd box) in Nautilus. Fresh install. Any insight would be helpful (drive is @ latest firmware, Plextor 716a).
[08:24] <erika> soundray,  Just 1 server running now.
[08:24] <soundray> erika: then I don't know, sry
[08:24] <erika> soundray,  nevamind dude anyway thanks for gdm.
[08:24] <ferronica> GodSyn: Can i use GTK theme that you gave me
[08:25] <astro> .
[08:25] <variant> anyone know of any grub magic that will allow you to reboot the system directly into another os (not the grub default, without having to perhaps load a different grub.conf with a script
[08:25] <erika> well in "QUIT" tab there is no shutdown or reboot option in . can i add shutdown or reboot option? anyhow? in quit tab i have just 3 options there. SwitchUser, log0ff, lockScreen.. anyone?
[08:26] <slashjamiec> It's currently 5:22am :)
[08:26] <GodSyn> ferronica: You should be able to use any of the GTK2.x themes @gnomelook via the drag and drop method you previously stated.
[08:26] <bill_> 5:26 :P
[08:26] <slashjamiec> Do you live in Australia too? :)
[08:26] <soundray> variant: in theory, 'sudo grub-reboot X' should do this, with X being the number of the title entry, count starts at 0. This hasn't worked for me recently.
[08:26] <bill_> no, just saying you need to sync your clock
[08:26] <slashjamiec> I know.
[08:26] <slashjamiec> !time
[08:26] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[08:27] <slashjamiec> god.
[08:27] <variant> soundray: awesome, thanks man
[08:27] <LZMA> hi!
[08:27] <bill_> !date
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <slashjamiec> Hey!
[08:27] <soundray> variant: there's a man page as well
[08:27] <slashjamiec> !balls
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about balls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <soundray> !botabuse
[08:27] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:27] <variant> soundray: yeah i am aware of that, didn't think it would be covered
[08:27] <slashjamiec> !freebsd
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freebsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <felixhummel> hi! I'm looking for a program to easily create animated 2D cartoons. Any ideas?
[08:28] <soundray> variant: I mean 'man grub-reboot'
[08:28] <LZMA> i have problems with mouting a lukscrypted volume on feisty. I already installed cryptsetup, but the terminal says i should check my kernel for aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 cipher spec
[08:28] <variant> soundray: yeah :) incedentaly, a quick goodgle search turns up a few "grub-reboot doesnt work" regarding ubuntu
[08:28] <Pici> LZMA: Feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[08:29] <GodSyn> ferronica: any luck?
[08:29] <ferronica> GodSyn: tryin to find good one
[08:29] <soundray> felixhummel: that's a weak spot for free software. Consider gimp, though. It has animation features hidden in the menus.
[08:29] <brandesque> anyone know of any themes that make gnome look like KDE?
[08:29] <ferronica> GodSyn: there is one good one murrine
[08:29] <variant> soundray: you tried that with feisty? there is an open bug thats been confirmed by like 5 people but no patch etc in the pipeline
[08:29] <ferronica> GodSyn: how to download that one :)
[08:29] <LZMA> Pici, thx!
[08:29] <felixhummel> thanks, soundray
[08:30] <soundray> variant: tried with dapper, edgy and feisty. I think there may be a setting in the default menu.lst that interferes with it.
[08:30] <cfedde> :[
[08:31] <psilocyde> Is there a proper channel for noob questions?
[08:31] <jamesbrose> when is fiesty fully released ?
[08:31] <cfedde> go for it!
[08:31] <soundray> psilocyde: this is it
[08:31] <psilocyde> nifty
[08:31] <variant> soundray: ok, according to the posts the bug appeared in dapper
[08:31] <shatrat> jamesbrose, 19th of next month
[08:31] <Anarkia> hi everybody
[08:31] <Anarkia> Im having two problems and i dont know if anyone can help me, the first one is if anyone knows the difference between the dvd iso and the cd iso cause their manifest is the same
[08:31] <Anarkia> the second one is about browsing network shares with nautilus cause sometimes I have to refresh the window to se the folder icons
[08:32] <psilocyde> how do i get beryl to turn on? its installed and i have the icon next to the time in the corner but i cant get it to work
[08:32] <astro``> heh
[08:33] <ompaul> psilocyde, have a chat with the nice people in #ubuntu-effects
[08:33] <soundray> variant: it's a pity, because you used to be able to shutdown systems that wouldn't poweroff via a 'halt' entry in menu.lst
[08:33] <cwillu> !xgl
[08:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:33] <psilocyde> thanks
[08:33] <GodSyn> ferronica: I see many "Murrina" themes. which in specific?
[08:33] <GodSyn> help : <<noob>> Upon inserting a DVD (unreal 2k4 editors chioce) it is automounted, and displays as blank (new write cd box) in Nautilus. Fresh install. Any insight would be helpful (drive is @ latest firmware, Plextor 716a).
[08:34] <rmz> join channel #njs
[08:34] <eobanb> rmz, no spam please
[08:35] <rmz> ok ok, but how can I create a channel ?
[08:35] <ferronica> GodSyn: http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine.php
[08:35] <eobanb> rmz, just join the channel you wish to create, and it will be created.
[08:35] <ferronica> GodSyn: Open this link
[08:35] <eobanb> !irc
[08:35] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[08:35] <dyrne> rmz: /command
[08:35] <rmz> but how to join?
[08:35] <eobanb> rmz, this is not the place for irc help
[08:36] <eobanb>  /j #channel
[08:36] <rmz> thanks, and sorry of offtop
[08:36] <ferronica> GodSyn: Murrine GTK2 Cairo Engine
[08:38] <Erika> i want to download edgy from web. but.. my Service is too much slow .. maximum 9 kbs  .. so if i try to download and Resume it then after sometime when i get bit more speed then again download that resume. so it works ?
[08:38] <cfedde> Erika: a slight chalange. but using a torrent might be faster.
[08:39] <grigora> I am having trouble installing the Flash Player 9 on my Firefox, I have used their script which has copied a file called libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, I also manually copied flashplayer.xpt to /usr/lib/firefox/components
[08:39] <Erika> cfedde,  but my network admistrator restricted the speed. with torrent i get it fast?
[08:39] <soundray> Erika: if you use wget http://... , you can interrupt the download and continue it later with wget -c
[08:39] <andne> probably not, but torrent handles stop/resume pretty well
[08:39] <dyrne> grigora: about:plugins doesnt show it in firefox?
[08:40] <Erika> soundray,  ya i can wget too. but Resume works fine? with wget -c?
[08:40] <cfedde> Erika: with torrent you get several streams at once.  Hard to know how your bandwidth limits will work with that.
[08:40] <Erika> soundray,  means after download complete it works?
[08:40] <Erika> cfedde, Bandwidth limited here.. :<
[08:40] <grigora> dyrne: File name:  libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 7.0 r61
[08:41] <cyphase> What's this new "Install with driver update CD" boot option?
[08:41] <grigora> dyrne: does that mean I also have to do the same for /usr/lib/mozilla and /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox?
[08:41] <cfedde> Erika: at home via dsl direct down load I get about 14KBps.  with bit torrent I get between 60 and 70.
[08:41] <andne> some bandwith limits are IP based, some are connection/port based - connection or port limits torrent may bypass
[08:41] <soundray> cyphase: #ubuntu+1 for feisty please
[08:41] <MalMen> hello, what is the command to show the execute box ?
[08:41] <MalMen> like windows + r on windows
[08:41] <cyphase> soundray: oops, sorry. i thought i was there :P
[08:41] <soundray> MalMen: Alt-F2?
[08:41] <cwillu> alt+f2
[08:42] <abo> I always have firefox crashing
[08:42] <june> is there a signal you can send to a proccess to kill it "nicely"?  (similar to when a window has the X clicked, as opposed to killall)
[08:42] <Erika> soundray,  i tried it to download with i download manager but when i check the media 3 checksum failed errror. :< 4 days to complete 698 mb :)
[08:42] <MalMen> but what is the command ?
[08:42] <cfedde> at work I get about 100Kbps dirrect.  From a torrent I get 600 to 1M
[08:42] <dwandke> Hi everyone
[08:42] <MalMen> on console
[08:42] <abo> do you have problems with firefox crashing?
[08:42] <jrib> grigora: does http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ work?
[08:42] <cwillu> june: killall by default is somewhat polite;  killall -KILL is rude
[08:42] <wyndblade> lol cwillu: agreed
[08:42] <dyrne> grigora: well all ive ever done is drop it in the firefox lib directory. maybe remove 7
[08:42] <dwandke> has anyone some knowledge about apache2 ?? Have a problem, i can't solve with google
[08:43] <ferronica> GodSyn: how to install GTK2-engines murriene
[08:43] <cwillu> dwandke: what's the issue?
[08:43] <Erika> cfedde,  i aint use bitorrent before :<
[08:43] <grigora> dyrne: it does, but I think I have the older version
[08:43] <cfedde> Erika: ubuntu makes it easy!
[08:43] <june> cwillu: well specifically, i'm talking about WINE, apparently killall wine and wineserver -k are both extremely rude (they skip wine's "shutdown" sequence), and i was wondering if there was an alternative
[08:43] <Erika> cfedde,  i am using ubuntu :/ how can i ? if its easy :)
[08:43] <variant> soundray: yeah, found a related bug report and a fix was applied that didn't fix the issue, no updates for a couple of months.. partly because the bug comments became unrelated to the bug which i hates
[08:44] <andri> test
[08:44] <cwillu> june: sounds like a wine bug :/;  on the other hand, killing wineserver is killing the backend
[08:44] <cwillu> june: let me check something, one sec
[08:44] <cfedde> Erika: find the torrent files in the list of images. using your borwser
[08:44] <variant> soundray: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/31915
[08:44] <june> thanks cwillu
[08:44] <cfedde> save it to desk top.  then clickt it.
[08:44] <Erika> cfedde,  where?
[08:44] <DiGiTaL-DoMaiN> -+/j Freenode
[08:44] <Erika> cfedde,  talking about the ubuntu web?
[08:45] <cfedde> Erika: I'll find the url...
[08:45] <poohter> DCC SEND LOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[08:45] <ferronica> GodSyn: how to install GTK2-engines murriene
[08:45] <cfedde> Erika: yes from the ubunto download page.
[08:45] <Erika> cfedde,  sure i m waiting..
[08:45] <eobanb> !ops
[08:45] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[08:45] <dwandke> So yesterday i have installed Apache2 via apt-get. Now today, i want to secure the www directory with .htaccess and password. But when i make the needed entries (AllOverwrite All) in the 000 (default) in the directory /etc/apache2/site-enabled/ and restart apache2 and then i go on the page (which is in www) firefox tell me, that i have no permissions to browse this directory (page).
[08:45] <Amaranth> eobanb: instant kline, no need to call us :)
[08:46] <dwandke> .htaccess and .htpasswd are in this directoy
[08:46] <dwandke> +r
[08:46] <andri> dear all, how to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to Greater version
[08:46] <eobanb> Amaranth, good good :)
[08:46] <cwillu> dwandke: can you pastebin that file?
[08:46] <dwandke> yeah one moment...
[08:46] <dwandke> the 000 (default) ??
[08:46] <cfedde> Erika: http://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[08:46] <dylock> question
[08:46] <AlessandroD> WoW... lotta people
[08:47] <cwillu> dwandke: what others do you have?
[08:47] <Amaranth> AlessandroD: we'll get more in ~1 month :)
[08:47] <Erika> cfedde, can i resume it? c0z my lan get d/c several times.
[08:47] <dwandke> .htaccess and htpasswd
[08:47] <cfedde> Erika: should be able to.
[08:47] <dylock> ive lost sound for some reason, i have made sure my soundcard is detected and drivers are installed. I ran a modprobe command for my driver but still no sound is being produce
[08:47] <andri> please somebody can u help me..
[08:47] <Erika> cfedde,  if i download with wget ?? so resume works?
[08:47] <variant> dylock: install alsamixer-gui and make sure all the sound levels are set correctly
[08:47] <wyndblade> !help | andri
[08:47] <ubotu> andri: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:47] <dylock> Im going to try and purge all linux and alsa sound packages and reinstall but does anyone have anyother suggestions before I start
[08:47] <andri> this is the first time i use ubuntu...
[08:48] <cfedde> Erika: the torrent file is small.
[08:48] <dylock> variant: i have done that already
[08:48] <cfedde> should not need to restart.  And you can use wget if you like.
[08:48] <variant> dylock: thats alsamixergui
[08:48] <Spidernet> helo to all, i am new in ubuntu,
[08:48] <variant> dylock: and they are unmuted?
[08:48] <trumpet_thief> how do i install the latest nvidia driver?
[08:48] <jrib> Spidernet: welcome
[08:48] <dylock> yes
[08:48] <Erika> cfedde,  then how can i get whole edgy? sorry i m not used too with bitorrent using 1st time.
[08:48] <Spidernet> thanks
[08:48] <shatrat> !nvidia9 | trumpet_thief
[08:48] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[08:48] <katara> hi, how can i check what packages are installed on my system?
[08:48] <ubotu> trumpet_thief: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[08:49] <jrib> katara: system > administration > synaptic, or 'dpkg -l'
[08:49] <cfedde> Erika: the small file is instructions about how to start a torrent pulling the iso image from several sources.
[08:49] <dylock> it doesn't make sense because sound was working before i updated my nvidia driver and fixed up X
[08:49] <ferronica> GodSyn: how to install GTK2-engines murrine
[08:49] <shatrat> trumpet_thief, theres also a couple repositories if youd prefer to install through apt, or you could install using the nvidia.com installer
[08:49] <KnowledgEngi> the SoundConverter from what formats to what formats can convert?
[08:49] <Erika> cfedde,  let me download it first :)
[08:49] <KnowledgEngi> what input format soundconverter know?
[08:49] <Spidernet> i think its litle dif. here to make a comment
[08:49] <dwandke> cwillu: http://phpfi.com/218764
[08:49] <cwillu> thx
[08:50] <soundray> variant: yes, I agree it's annoying
[08:50] <Amaranth> trumpet_thief, shatrat: envy is not supported and we won't help you with it
[08:50] <KnowledgEngi> i has install mac, and i want convert some ape file to mp3(very hight quality)
[08:50] <dwandke> cwillu: thats now the default setting because i have sometimes to work with my www ;)
[08:50] <Spidernet>     ?
[08:50] <shatrat> Amaranth, well, I expected nvidia9 to return the repositories, although i expect theyre nto really supported either
[08:50] <soundray> !gr | Spidernet
[08:50] <ubotu> Spidernet: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:50] <Amaranth> shatrat: i don't think they exist anymore
[08:51] <trumpet_thief> i tried envy but it did not work properly
[08:51] <shatrat> Amaranth, amilone put one up after lupines went down
[08:51] <wyndblade> trumpet_thief: you do a manual install?
[08:51] <wyndblade> trumpet_thief, with envy I mean
[08:51] <variant> trumpet_thief: thats why it's unsupported
[08:51] <trumpet_thief> yes but its not the latest version
[08:52] <Spidernet>     ?
[08:52] <ferronica> GodSyn: how to install GTK2-engines murriene
[08:52] <Amaranth> shatrat: I suspect someone is screwing with the bot, I'll fix it
[08:52] <Daemonikal> hello, I am having some problems with 3com network cards on ubuntu server 6.06 LTS using kernel 2.6.15-26-server. The cards will not recieve dhcp addresses, though another manufacturer card will. The 3com cards worked fine with 2.4.31 kernel. Does anyone know why this is happening?
[08:52] <Amaranth> Spidernet: What language is that?
[08:52] <Amaranth> of course he can't tell me
[08:52] <Spidernet> greek
[08:52] <lspci> Daemonikal, can you assign a static IP and make it work?
[08:52] <shatrat> trumpet_thief, Amaranth, here is a page listing newer nvidia-glx packages for dapper and edgy, http://www.albertomilone.com/latestrepo.html
[08:52] <trumpet_thief> so i nee to do a manual install with envy?
[08:52] <shafto> !nvidia
[08:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:53] <wyndblade> trumpet_thief: you can try it
[08:53] <cwillu> dwandke: there's a syntax error on line 9
[08:53] <OsteHovel> First: Im running Ubuntu Edgy(kubuntu, KDE desktop)... My problem is: System Freezing when using Wireless network, when trying to copy/open/ease files with Samba, Trying to download/upload with Torrent both under KTorrent and under VmWare... and it frezzes somethimes when i browse the net but everything working with Network Cable.. (my wireless card is D-Link DWL-610)
[08:53] <dyrne> Daemonikal: does it connect ok if you tell it the ip? like sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.3  ?
[08:53] <shatrat> trumpet_thief, personally I prefer using the nvidia.com installer, there are instructions here. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy#METHOD_2
[08:53] <Amaranth> !nvidia9 | trumpet_thief, shatrat
[08:53] <ubotu> trumpet_thief, shatrat: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[08:53] <Daemonikal> SD09nhpj
[08:53] <Daemonikal> bah lol
[08:54] <MalMen> what is the command when i put alt + f2 ?
[08:54] <Amaranth> shatrat: fixed :)
[08:54] <cwillu> MalMen: trick question, unfortunately
[08:54] <shatrat> Amaranth, I dont think that repo is still up.  I heard that lupine switched to debian etch and isnt maintaining it anymore.
[08:54] <dwandke> Thanks cwillu but thats not the Problem :( The problem were caused before this error :(
[08:54] <dylock> holy crap
[08:54] <Amaranth> shatrat: not true
[08:54] <MalMen> cwillu my english its a litle bad
[08:54] <cwillu> MalMen: technically there isn't
[08:54] <dylock> apparently purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base and alsa-utils removes alot more then it should
[08:54] <MalMen> :O
[08:54] <dylock> it removed gmd nautilus, and a whole bunch more
[08:55] <trumpet_thief> whats the command for the sources list?
[08:55] <wyndblade> dylock: yes and you have to re-install em, but reinstalling alsa = usually fixes problems
[08:55] <dyrne> trumpet_thief: to do what with it?
[08:55] <shatrat> Amaranth, well, it was removed from the ubuntu-effects channel topic and beryl guides a while back for those reasons. Im not imagining things
[08:55] <crimsun> dylock: ...and why are you removing alsa?
[08:55] <dylock> well thats good, hopefully the removal of those packages wont effect anything else
[08:55] <shatrat> trumpet_thief, 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' to edit it
[08:55] <dylock> i reinstalled crimsun
[08:55] <wyndblade> dylock: it will, reinstall gdm etc.
[08:56] <trumpet_thief> cheers
[08:56] <crimsun> dylock: what's the root issue with your sound? If you don't know, what are the symptoms?
[08:56] <dylock> crimsun: i lost sound and removing alsa and reinstalling seems to be the only option left
[08:56] <OsteHovel> someone know a video program that takes up what you do on the screen?(kde)
[08:56] <crimsun> dylock: no, whoever told you to remove alsa is severely misled
[08:56] <soundray> dylock: reinstalling is a Windows approach to problem solving. It rarely works in Ubuntu.
[08:57] <colbert> When I pop in a DVD and it shows its mounted, and I click "Play DVD" on the drive, it loads up VLC, but it doesn't play, VLC just sits there.. what's the command to make VLC play something? "wxvlc ?"
[08:57] <dylock> i was updating my nvidia driver yesturday which resulted in X getting all messed up. So i proceded to fix X and got my nvidia driver working, but all sound was gone
[08:57] <zoli2k>  /join #ubuntu-dev
[08:57] <Daemonikal> Sorry, it took me a while to test, but statically assigning the ip doesnt seem to work either
[08:58] <cwillu> MalMen: there's a small c prog that I used to trigger the run dialog, but it doesn't work great (always pops up behind anything else due to focus stealing prevention)
[08:58] <cwillu> dylock: did it ever come back after a reboot?
[08:58] <Pegasos989> Heya. This is not as much Ubuntu-question as linux in general but... I installed TrueCrypt from .deb and it installed fine. When I type truecrypt in terminal it shows me guide to it's usage. However, I am quite sure there is a GUI for it too so how can I find out the command to open it?
[08:58] <dylock> nope
[08:58] <Amaranth> shatrat: he was a little behind on the last kernel update
[08:58] <animimotus> hi
[08:59] <animimotus> find . -type f | grep .svn    -----------> list me the files I want to delete but the rm `find . -type f |grep .svn`  don't work, what's the problem please?
[08:59] <cwillu> dylock: go to the sounds preference page, uncheck 'use esd', close the dialog, go back into it, turn it back on, and see if it works
[08:59] <cwillu> dylock: make sure you don't have any firefox windows open that have flash
[08:59] <krolben> hi all - N00B question: I've "accidentially" deleted my /etc/apache2 folder, meaning that I've got no config files or anything else for apache2. apt-get install apache2 doesn't install the files. What can I do?
[08:59] <dylock> ill try that cwillu, im reinstalling all the stuff that got removed
[08:59] <soundray> Pegasos989: run 'dpkg -L truecrypt | grep bin' to see the binaries that were installed with the package.
[08:59] <animimotus> antiquote is not the solution to direct a command ?
[08:59] <cwillu> (flash by default uses oss, which causes some problems depending on the order that things start)
[09:00] <jason0_> Anyone here use seamlessrdp?
[09:00] <Pegasos989> soundray Okay, thanks. :)
[09:00] <addams> using apache, can't edit anything /var/www/  ... what gives ?
[09:00] <spikeb> flash 9 uses alsa doesn't it
[09:00] <cwillu> addams: gksudo or sudo
[09:00] <soundray> krolben: remove all of apache2 with 'sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2', then install normally
[09:00] <cwillu> spikeb: it can, but it doesn't by default
[09:00] <spikeb> ah
[09:00] <spikeb> ok
[09:00] <cwillu> spikeb: they're still under the impression that alsa is experimental :p
[09:00] <krolben> thanks soundray - I'll try
[09:00] <spikeb> heh cwillu
[09:00] <Xintruder2007> hi
[09:01] <addams> cwillu: is there no way to drag and drop files w/out having to type a command everytime?
[09:01] <cwillu> spikeb: I usually just force the issue by running firefox via aoss
[09:01] <cwillu> addams: ?
[09:01] <spikeb> cwillu, yeah that works
[09:01] <bill_k> addams, you can drop files and folders in terminal
[09:01] <bo1> hello, I am considering submitting a proposal to ubuntu for SoC... trying to get some feedback
[09:02] <bill_k> soc?
[09:02] <bo1> google's summer of code
[09:02] <Jello-Red> Ooh.
[09:02] <Jello-Red> Summer of Code.
[09:02] <cwillu> addams: oh, I get it;  there are nautilus extensions to make editing files as root a bit easier, you can also just run an instance of nautilus as root (but for the love of god be careful)
[09:02] <RoundyT1> where
[09:02] <bill_k> bol, that would be cool.
[09:02] <Daemonikal> Is it possible that the problem with the 3Com cards is caused by ipv6, since they are showing an ipv6 address where the other card does not?
[09:02] <RoundyT1> oops. Where's a good place to start learning about Ubuntu?
[09:03] <Jello-Red> I would recommend the website.
[09:03] <Xintruder-laptop> Hi
[09:03] <soundray> RoundyT1: read the private msgs from ubotu:
[09:03] <Jello-Red> www.ubuntu.com
[09:03] <soundray> !faq > RoundyT1
[09:03] <dylock> ubuntuforums.org as well
[09:03] <soundray> !cli > RoundyT1
[09:03] <Jello-Red> Find the forum; they're very helpful.
[09:03] <cwillu> dog pile!
[09:03] <dylock> cwillu were you tlaking about the gnome sound preferences?
[09:03] <Xintruder-laptop> I use intel 2 duo core T7200 procesor.. what arch do i want?
[09:03] <cwillu> dylock: think so
[09:03] <RoundyT1> ha. ok. I want to start working on getting a server going at work. for Mysql, Apache, PHP, and others
[09:03] <spikeb> Xintruder-laptop, 32 bit
[09:04] <jay> what command can I use to invoke the alt+f2 dialog in gnome?
[09:04] <dylock> ok, im reinstalling that right now
[09:04] <Xintruder-laptop> spikeb, name ?
[09:04] <soundray> Xintruder-laptop: office, desktop, games or number crunching?
[09:04] <krolben> soundray: By installing apache2 normally, do you mean "apt-get install apache2"? If that's the case I still don't get any /etc/apache2 folder
[09:04] <spikeb> Xintruder-laptop, i386 or the normal desktop PC cd
[09:04] <cwillu> RoundyT1: the server install cd has a lamp server option, which installs those three automatically
[09:04] <Xintruder-laptop> laptop soundray\
[09:04] <astro``> YAWN
[09:04] <RoundyT1> that's what i thought.
[09:04] <soundray> krolben: then you haven't removed it properly
[09:05] <RoundyT1> I can run a server like that locally correct?
[09:05] <dylock> wow even gnome-session was removed
[09:05] <Xintruder-laptop> I want to try ubuntu out, some word proccessing, web browsing etc
[09:05] <cwillu> RoundyT1: of course
[09:05] <dylock> thats crazy
[09:05] <krolben> i wrote "sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2"
[09:05] <bo1> well, I was going to create a system for taking pre-existing debian packages from the ubuntu package pool... and remove all the extras... man pages changelogs.. stuff like that... then build an iso... as these packages are updated they will be pulled in and patched based on the previous version... this would make a ubuntu based candidate to run on the $100 laptop
[09:05] <addams> cwillu: wow.. thanks for helping me out, i think i got the hang of it. I'm really impressed with how much of linux is on lockdown. It's amazing.
[09:05] <cwillu> dylock: lol, just install ubuntu-desktop, and everything should come back to normal
[09:05] <soundray> Xintruder-laptop: use i386, you will have fewer problems than with amd64
[09:05] <Lgndryhr> hi
[09:05] <Xintruder-laptop> ok, thx
[09:05] <addams> cwilu: it's like no hacker could run any code without the password almost
[09:05] <Lgndryhr> i am having a BIG problem with firefox and never hace had this happen before
[09:05] <Jello-Red> Xintruder-laptop: I would advise using the LiveCD at first.
[09:05] <Xintruder-laptop> is that : Standard personal  computer ?
[09:05] <Jello-Red> Lgndryhr: What's up?
[09:06] <cwillu> addams: they could affect a single user, but that's about the worst of it
[09:06] <Xintruder-laptop> why Jello-Red?
[09:06] <Lgndryhr> ok long story
[09:06] <Lgndryhr> first last night while running firefox
[09:06] <dylock> luckly this should have no effect on fluxbox
[09:06] <soundray> Xintruder-laptop: amd64 is faster on Core 2 Duos, but with your profile, you won't notice the difference
[09:06] <Xintruder-laptop> ok
[09:06] <Lgndryhr> i got a message about a new update so i clicked download&install
[09:06] <Lgndryhr> well when it went to restart to install
[09:06] <mmartinez> I need help!
[09:06] <Lgndryhr> it froze
[09:06] <Lgndryhr> so i forced quit firefox
[09:06] <LjL> !helpme
[09:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:06] <Lgndryhr> and restarted gnome
[09:06] <Xintruder-laptop> so is the 32 bit i need (standard personal computer) on ubuntu.com ?
[09:07] <spikeb> Xintruder-laptop, yeah
[09:07] <Lgndryhr> and then from there on
[09:07] <Jello-Red> Xintruder-laptop: The ISO for Ubuntu allows for the Graphical install, which is quite user-friendly.  Also, it gives you a chance to try out Ubuntu before you install it; because of GRUB, it's not the quickest thing to remove.
[09:07] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: did you install your own version of firefox, or was it the ubuntu updater that you saw?
[09:07] <soundray> Xintruder-laptop: find the i386 Desktop iso
[09:07] <mmartinez> I keep getting kicked off my WLAN and needing to re-authenticate back in every 5 minutes...
[09:07] <Lgndryhr> when i would try to load firefox i would get the update trying to install and stop halfwat
[09:07] <Lgndryhr> so i came here last night
[09:07] <Lgndryhr> for help
[09:07] <chrisrummy> how do i navigate to a folder in terminal
[09:07] <Lgndryhr> someone by the name pollywog made it worse
[09:07] <Xintruder-laptop> Jello-Red, fix mbr for the win man :D !
[09:07] <Jello-Red> Lgndryhr: If you're not using the Ubuntu release, I could recommend a shell script for you.
[09:07] <cwillu> chrisrummy: cd <folder> or cd .. (goes to parent)
[09:07] <erUSUL> chrisrummy: cd folder
[09:08] <Lgndryhr> there's more to the story
[09:08] <Xintruder-laptop> ok, which desktop edition u guys advise me to use?
[09:08] <wyndblade> chrisrummy, use cd to change folders, and ls to list files and folders
[09:08] <Jello-Red> Xintruder-laptop: Agreed, though sometimes you need to use fixboot /mbr to fix it.
[09:08] <RoundyT1> i love having University of Utah so close to me :-D 400-800Kb/s downloads
[09:08] <Lgndryhr> so everything i trid didnt work
[09:08] <Lgndryhr> *tried
[09:08] <Lgndryhr> well what he said to do
[09:08] <erUSUL> ubotu tell chrisrummy about cli | chrisrummy see priv msg from ubotu
[09:08] <dylock> cwillu: turnning cwu on and off didnt work
[09:08] <Lgndryhr> so i completely removed firefox from /opt
[09:08] <soundray> Lgndryhr: and you think by badmouthing users here you will achieve exactly what?
[09:08] <mmartinez>  I keep getting kicked off my WLAN and needing to re-authenticate back in every 5 minutes...
[09:08] <mmartinez>  I keep getting kicked off my WLAN and needing to re-authenticate back in every 5 minutes...
[09:08] <Xintruder-laptop> Jello-Red, yup.
[09:08] <mmartinez>  I keep getting kicked off my WLAN and needing to re-authenticate back in every 5 minutes...
[09:08] <cwillu> mmartinez: you're gonna get yourself kicked
[09:08] <Lgndryhr> im not badmouthing im telling my problem
[09:08] <__mikem> !repeat
[09:08] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:08] <Lgndryhr> so after removing
[09:08] <RoundyT1> holy crap flooder lolo
[09:09] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: just tell it, as concisely as you can
[09:09] <Xintruder-laptop> haha
[09:09] <Lgndryhr> i ran the remove command
[09:09] <Xintruder-laptop> some bots freak u out
[09:09] <Lgndryhr> and now when i try to install it in terminal it wont
[09:09] <Lgndryhr> i get an error
[09:09] <RoundyT1> im assuming there's a gui with the server version of Ubuntu...?
[09:09] <cwillu> dylock: is ubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:09] <dylock> installing ATM
[09:09] <__mikem> lol mr repeat is back it looks like
[09:09] <spikeb> RoundyT1, not installed by default
[09:09] <cwillu> or xubuntu-desktop, or whichever version you have installed
[09:09] <cwillu> ok
[09:09] <RoundyT1> crap
[09:09] <Jello-Red> Lgndryhr: Have you tried the shell script on the internet to update Firefox automatically?
[09:10] <dylock> didnt realize how much stuff had to download for ubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <Xintruder-laptop> so guys, what edition? 6.10, or 6.06 ?
[09:10] <Lgndryhr> no i have not
[09:10] <dylock> 6.10
[09:10] <cwillu> dylock: let me know when it's done
[09:10] <Jello-Red> Dylock: Yeah, it's like 466 MB.
[09:10] <Lgndryhr> but came across earlier in my searching
[09:10] <wyndblade> Xintruder-laptop, I use 6.10 works fine
[09:10] <RoundyT1> So how do I locate my phpadmin stuff? I'm so confused as to how this all runs on linux....
[09:10] <Lgndryhr> right now i have no firefox
[09:10] <Xintruder-laptop> oki doki
[09:10] <RoundyT1> if there's no gui
[09:10] <Lgndryhr> and would like to just have some version of it
[09:10] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: how did you install it?  via synaptic, or from a website?
[09:10] <Jello-Red> Xintruder-laptop: I installed 6.06 to start, but upgraded to 6.10 via the GUI update.
[09:10] <psilocyde> need help getting my wireless going
[09:10] <LjL> 6.08 would be a nice compromise Xintruder-laptop. seriously... 6.06 is supported for a longer time (i.e. it keeps receiving security updates), and some people have said that 6.10 tends to be a little less stable. but then it's got more features, of course.
[09:10] <soundray> Xintruder-laptop: if you like the bleeding edge, consider feisty 7.04 -- more info in #ubuntu+1 (read the topic there)
[09:10] <Jello-Red> I'd recommend 6.10, though.
[09:11] <Lgndryhr> the one in /opt was installed by the tar from mozilla's website
[09:11] <Lgndryhr> but now it is gone
[09:11] <Lgndryhr> i removed it last night
[09:11] <Xintruder-laptop> thx soundray
[09:11] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: okay, you don't really want to use the one from their site, good
[09:11] <Lgndryhr> oh k
[09:11] <__mikem> LJL, you know our little flooder came back lol
[09:11] <Jello-Red> Xintruder-laptop: Feisty 7.04 comes out in a couple weeks, but it's still a tad unstable.
[09:11] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: go to system | admin | synaptic package manager
[09:11] <dylock> haha well cwillu ill have to get back to you in an hour when ubuntu-desktop is done
[09:11] <RoundyT1> what's making FF unstable?
[09:11] <LjL> __mikem: well i didn't ban
[09:12] <Lgndryhr> ok
[09:12] <LjL> Xintruder-laptop: uh?
[09:12] <dylock> gentoo you have to compile everything
[09:12] <Xintruder-laptop> < Gentoo user..
[09:12] <wyndblade> Xintruder-laptop, it's not that bad just get used to using apt-get other than emerge
[09:12] <dylock> ubuntu you can use a lot more stuff 'out of the box'
[09:12] <krolben> what else do I need to do to remove apache2 completely, other than "sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2"? When trying to install after this using "sudo apt-get install apache2" it doesn't create the /etc/apache2 folder
[09:12] <Xintruder-laptop> i seee
[09:12] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: find "firefox" and "firefox-gnome-support"
[09:12] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: check them off, and install them
[09:12] <Lgndryhr> it says firefox is installed right now
[09:13] <RoundyT1> What program would I use if I want to manage a Ubuntu server from a Windows/(or) Ubuntu desktop???
[09:13] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: okay, right click those two, and hit "mark for reinstallation"
[09:13] <soundray> krolben: sorry mate, you probably need to reinstall apache2-common as well
[09:13] <Xintruder-laptop> would u guys know in what program was Linux built, like all in general ?
[09:14] <Lgndryhr> the gnome support wasnt but i still marked it
[09:14] <RoundyT1> Xintruder -----> Gedit
[09:14] <Lgndryhr> for installtion i mean
[09:14] <coffeegrindah> I'm back .. and I'm still trying to figure out whats up with my flash drive.
[09:14] <cwillu> RoundyT1: putty for windows, ssh for ubuntu gives you a really good terminal option;  vnc is decent to get to your desktop, although it's not really very secure
[09:14] <Jello-Red> Xintruder-laptop: I believe it was built on Python.
[09:14] <RoundyT1> I was kidding
[09:14] <Lgndryhr> ok im applying it
[09:14] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: k;  I'll brb
[09:14] <Agrajag> Jello-Red: haha what
[09:14] <Lgndryhr> k
[09:14] <mbdl> hey i was wondering how u install TCL
[09:14] <Jello-Red> Agrajag: What do you mean?
[09:15] <RoundyT1> where can i get ssh for Ubuntu? cwillu?
[09:15] <Agrajag> that would be funny, a kernel written in python
[09:15] <soundray> Xintruder-laptop: the earliest versions were built in Minix and DJGPP I think. But for a long time, Linux has been built under itself.
[09:15] <Xintruder-laptop> hmm ubuntu pacages is different than debian packages ?
[09:15] <Xintruder-laptop> soundray, gotcha
[09:15] <wyndblade> soundray, thanks for the historical info
[09:15] <RoundyT1> What is the best IRC client for Ubuntu to run?!?
[09:15] <dylock> irssi
[09:16] <kazuka> !vista
[09:16] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[09:16] <soundray> Xintruder-laptop: not in terms of how they are constructed, but the architecture is now sufficiently different that you can't exchange packages in all cases.
[09:16] <coffeegrindah> Roundy X-chat is pretty sweet
[09:16] <hobbes487> hello everyone.  can someone help me out?
[09:16] <mbdl>  does anyone know how to get tcl and install it so i can run Amsn
[09:16] <crane_work> hello
[09:16] <mbdl> hello
[09:16] <RoundyT1> that's what I'm using currently and I'm loving it, is there much stuff to customize? I havn't looked around or played with it much....
[09:16] <Xintruder-laptop> soundray, that means ubuntu isn't a 'child' of debian.. am i correct ?
[09:16] <Jello-Red> hobbes487: How can I help you?
[09:16] <wyndblade> mbdl: try Synaptic?
[09:17] <soundray> hobbes487: picking up your room? Taking the garbage out?
[09:17] <jrib> mbdl: just use synaptic to install amsn
[09:17] <compengi> i got this result when i did "ps aux" root      4099  0.7 18.9 171072 97644 tty7     SLs+ Mar07 172:56 /usr/X11R6/bin/ can someone tell me what is the application that is taking so much memory and if i can kill it
[09:17] <soundray> Xintruder-laptop: oh, it is, all the way
[09:17] <RoundyT1> I got Amsn working just fine. but i don't remember doing tcl.
[09:17] <dylock> i like irssi caus its resource friendly
[09:17] <mbdl> wyndblade jrib: when i do the install fails b/c it state i dont have it
[09:17] <hobbes487> I am trying to install ubuntu  and when it boots from the CD it hangs on 'Booting Kernel"
[09:17] <jrib> mbdl: what version of ubuntu?
[09:17] <LedZeppelin> How would I go about setting up a filesharing network between my Ubuntu machine and WinXP machine
[09:18] <soundray> hobbes487: what kind of CD and what version do you have?
[09:18] <mbdl> jrib: 6.10
[09:18] <dylock> LedZeppelin: you might want to look into samba
[09:18] <Xintruder-laptop> then why use the child, whlie debian exists? the parent like some might say. Is ubuntu for noobs and debian for prod like some say?
[09:18] <spikeb> LedZeppelin, you're my favorite band.
[09:18] <jrib> !info amsn edgy | mbdl
[09:18] <ubotu> mbdl: amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[09:18] <cwillu> RoundyT1: ssh client is installed by default; openssh-server is what you need to get the server
[09:18] <Espetito> Just testing.
[09:18] <jrib> mbdl: have you enabled universe?
[09:18] <spikeb> Xintruder-laptop, nah. they have differing goals.
[09:18] <variant> LedZeppelin: use samba to share whatever files on your ubuntu machine and in windows assign hte ubuntu share to a drive letter
[09:18] <Slappy> !samba
[09:18] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:18] <variant> !samba | LedZeppelin
[09:18] <ubotu> LedZeppelin: please see above
[09:18] <Lgndryhr> cwillu
[09:18] <Lgndryhr> not that it's installed now what
[09:18] <wyndblade> Xintruder-laptop, gentoo is the child of bsd nearly
[09:18] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: back
[09:19] <Lgndryhr> i cant find where it's put it
[09:19] <hobbes487> i am using version 6.10 burned on a Memorex CD
[09:19] <Xintruder-laptop> I never heard of any distribution goal, apart of something financial with redhat
[09:19] <Lgndryhr> so i can load it
[09:19] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: does firefox show up in Applications | Internet now?
[09:19] <RoundyT1> is that hard is it just as simple as using apt-get openssh-server
[09:19] <l90bpm> you can also mount the xp across the network, right?
[09:19] <Lgndryhr> it showed up before there
[09:19] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: is it working now?
[09:19] <l90bpm> read something about that last night
[09:19] <soundray> !debian | Xintruder-laptop
[09:19] <ubotu> Xintruder-laptop: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[09:19] <Lgndryhr> and still does show up
[09:19] <hobbes487> the 64 bit version
[09:19] <Lgndryhr> no it doesnt work
[09:19] <mbdl> jrib: i got the code i was sned this code....sudo apt-get install tcl8.4 tk8.4 tcltls
[09:19] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: any errors, or does it just not show up?
[09:19] <Lgndryhr> i get this "Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory)"
[09:20] <catid> does anyone know the package for using pulse audio with SDL instead of alsa?
[09:20] <soundray> hobbes487: what kind of CPU is in your system?
[09:20] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: go to applications| accessories| terminal
[09:20] <jrib> mbdl: there is no need to install amsn the hard way.  If you enable the universe repository, you can use synaptic to install amsn
[09:20] <jrib> !universe > mbdl    (mbdl, see the private message from ubotu)
[09:20] <soundray> hobbes487: please highlight your replies for me by using my nick
[09:20] <Lgndryhr> i have terminal on a hot key but ok
[09:20] <derspankster> I can't browse system files anymore
[09:20] <hobbes487> AMD Atholon 64 2800+
[09:20] <Espetito> Testing
[09:20] <psilocyde> can anyone help me with installing my wireless driver?
[09:20] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: whichever
[09:21] <dylock> what are you using psilocyde?
[09:21] <Lgndryhr> yea
[09:21] <Lgndryhr> cwillu: so now what
[09:21] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: ls -l `which firefox`
[09:21] <psilocyde> intel Pro/Wireless Network Connection 3945ABG
[09:21] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: and tell me what it says
[09:21] <hobbes487> soundray: AMD Atholon 64
[09:21] <sabotai> hi all what kernel type is ubuntu ?
[09:21] <Espetito> Testing
[09:21] <Lgndryhr> cwillu: just put int ls -l
[09:21] <chazco> hi... can anyone point me in the right direction for setting up a bluetooth NAP?
[09:21] <dylock> psilocyde: do you need a driver or is the wireless just not working?
[09:22] <Lgndryhr> *in
[09:22] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: ?
[09:22] <psilocyde> im a 4 hour linux noob
[09:22] <sabotai> is ubuntu kernel 2.6.0 or above?
[09:22] <cwillu> sabotai: yep
[09:22] <psilocyde> i dont think its working
[09:22] <Lgndryhr> cwillu: im asking do u want me to just put in terminal ls -l
[09:22] <RoundyT1> where can i learn about ssh?
[09:22] <Pollywog> not working?
[09:22] <Pollywog> how now working
[09:22] <dylock> open up the net thing that brings up your ethernet cards
[09:22] <Pollywog> not*
[09:22] <cwillu> Lgndryhr: type in exactly:  ls -l `which firefox`
[09:22] <cwillu> copy and paste it
[09:23] <cwillu> (`, not ')
[09:23] <RoundyT1> where can i learn about ssh?\
[09:23] <PinkFloyd> !ssh
[09:23] <cwillu> !ssh
[09:23] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:23] <cwillu> l;ol
[09:23] <soundray> hobbes487: early boot failures like yours are often due to bad memory. Try the memtest86 boot option and let it run for a while.
[09:23] <l90bpm> RoundyT1, are you setting up VNC?
[09:23] <RoundyT1> oh wow.
[09:23] <dylock> psilocyde: so you see your card listed ?
[09:23] <RoundyT1> i want to do ssh...not vnc....
[09:23] <chrisrummy> where is the wine folder placed i cant seem to find it
[09:23] <cwillu> PinkFloyd: I win :)
[09:23] <psilocyde> i have ethernet running but no wirless
[09:23] <Lgndryhr> cwillu: output is
[09:23] <psilocyde> where?
[09:23] <RoundyT1> well, i was told the VNC is unsecure
[09:23] <hobbes487> soundray: ok, i'll try that
[09:23] <sabotai> can a .rpm be installed in buntu?
[09:23] <Lgndryhr> total 1172
[09:23] <Lgndryhr> drwxr-xr-x  4 lgndryhr lgndryhr   4096 2007-03-04 20:41 bladeenc-0.94.1
[09:23] <Lgndryhr> -rw-r--r--  1 root     root          1 2006-09-03 01:30 confdefs.h
[09:23] <Lgndryhr> -rw-r--r--  1 root     root          0 2006-09-03 01:30 config.cache
[09:23] <Lgndryhr> -rw-r--r--  1 root     root        456 2006-09-03 01:30 config.log
[09:23] <l90bpm> wikipedia has a lil about it
[09:24] <Pollywog> sabotai it is not recommended
[09:24] <psilocyde> 4 hour noob
[09:24] <soundray> sabotai: yes, but you shouldn't if it can somehow be avoided
[09:24] <soundray> sabotai: what do you need to install?
[09:24] <sabotai> a sound river
[09:24] <Pollywog> BUT sometimes you can use the Alien package to convert a rpm to a deb
[09:24] <sabotai> driver
[09:24] <sabotai> from avi website
[09:24] <sabotai> via
[09:24] <soundray> sabotai: what chipset?
[09:24] <coffeegrindah> is there a good reason that i can't format a flash drive in ext2?
[09:24] <RoundyT1> l90bpm-------------i opened a separate window----can you view it?>??
[09:25] <dylock> psilocyde: it should be under the admin menu if your using a fresk ubuntu install
[09:25] <sabotai> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=20&CatID=2390&SubCatID=104
[09:25] <dylock> psilocyde: its not the net-tool its the other thing abotu networking
[09:25] <sabotai> that one
[09:25] <psilocyde> dylock ill look
[09:25] <l90bpm> what do you mean?
[09:25] <Matt4781581> hi im considering an upgrade from dapper to feisty, has anyone tried this?
[09:25] <sabotai> soundray: i have KM400
[09:26] <Pollywog> I see someone is still having problems getting Firefox to work
[09:26] <l90bpm> I think ssh is gonna run slow for you.. but I may be wrong
[09:26] <spikeb> Matt4781581, upgrade from dapper to edgy first.
[09:26] <psilocyde> ya says not configured
[09:26] <RoundyT1> why would it?
[09:26] <psilocyde> dylock says its not configured
[09:26] <Pollywog> Matt4781581: don't do it
[09:26] <dylock> ok, but does it show up?
[09:26] <Matt4781581> hey spike, I upgraded from breezy to dapper and everything broke, thats why im not so keen
[09:26] <soundray> sabotai: ubuntu comes with all the drivers you need. Follow these links to troubleshoot:
[09:26] <soundray> !sound | sabotai
[09:27] <ubotu> sabotai: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:27] <wyndblade> Matt4781581, I suggest just downloading the 7.04 installer cd
[09:27] <Xintruder-laptop> which is older gentoo or ubuntu?
[09:27] <wyndblade> Matt4781581, my upgrade to edgy was a hell
[09:27] <shd0w> hey guys I have a server on ubuntu 6.10 server and when ever i change my sources.list my apt completely breaks does anyone know why this is?
[09:27] <soundray> Xintruder-laptop: gentoo
[09:27] <Pollywog> Matt4781581: if you want to try Feisty I suggest an upgrade to Edgy first
[09:27] <Jello-Red> The GUI upgrade to Edgy went fine for me.
[09:27] <wyndblade> Xintruder-laptop, gentoo by far, but I suggest you look at www.gentoo.org and read the top story
[09:28] <Matt4781581> thing is my dapper is quite customised that why i dont want to start from scratch
[09:28] <psilocyde> brb
[09:28] <Matt4781581> but i dont want everything to break like when i went from breezy to dapper
[09:28] <dyrne> shd0w: you must sudo apt-get update; if youve done that maybe pase the broken sources.list
[09:28] <shd0w> k
[09:28] <sabotai> ubuto: k i'll try
[09:28] <diyerxa> i changed my resolution to 1920x1200 in xorg, and it works in GNOME, but Xfce changes it to 1920x1080. anyone know how i can change it to what it should be in Xfce?
[09:29] <topgun553> Is there an easy way to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[09:29] <Pollywog> Is there a VMware VM for Feisty?
[09:29] <dyrne> shd0w: to the pastebin not the channel here :)
[09:29] <wyndblade> !upgrade
[09:29] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:29] <AmaroqWolf> I made a .bash_aliases file and added a couple of aliases to it. However, both are commands that require root in order to work. If I try simply using the command, it fails, as expected. But if I try doing sudo first, the command is not found.
[09:29] <nclife> what is the command to set the write permissions for a folder? I want it to have write permission
[09:29] <tombow> chmod
[09:29] <Jello-red> nclife: sudo chmod +w, I believe it is.
[09:29] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: alias='sudo admincommand'
[09:30] <shd0w> im going to try to use source o matic real quick then ill paste bin it nd the errors
[09:30] <NickGarvey> is there a command ot see what version of ubuntu I am running?
[09:30] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: an alias won't work like that, use a function
[09:30] <chrisrummy> im haven trouble installing and getting wine to work. when i installed it i got error messages and now cant find it
[09:30] <RoundyT1> is there an installation gui for the server version of Ubuntu, can i edit partitions?
[09:30] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: if I am understanding correctly
[09:30] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: aw, can't make myself type sudo? I like it better that way. xD Pollywog: what do you mean?
[09:31] <coffeegrindah> help! i can't format my drive as ext2 anymore, what gives?
[09:31] <Jello-red> NickGarvey: sudo lsb_release -a
[09:31] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: are you familiar with functions in BASH?
[09:31] <ardchoille> Jello-red: Don't need sudo for that.
[09:31] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: no
[09:31] <soundray> coffeegrindah: not even with sudo?
[09:31] <xopher-> RoundyT1 you could use the LiveCD's gparted to edit the partitions if you want to do it graphically ;)
[09:31] <SecrethX> my grub list has a lot of kernels in it, is it possible to delete some entries so my windowspartition isnt so far down? :o
[09:31] <Jello-red> ardchoille: My apologies.
[09:31] <Hoag> Is it possible to set a command that requires root privilages to run when logging in?
[09:32] <coffeegrindah> soundray: nope I'm just com,pleteing a session in term I'll post to the pastebin.
[09:32] <Hoag> Without having to enter the password?
[09:32] <Pollywog> an alias in your non-root ~/.bashrc will not work if it requires a root command by putting sudo in front
[09:32] <dyrne> SecrethX: yeah you can delete whatever you dont want in the file
[09:32] <Pollywog> a function might
[09:32] <nclife> Jello-red, it gives write access to the first folder, but not to the milliard other folders that are inside it
[09:32] <SecrethX> dyrne, /boot/grub/menu.lst, right?
[09:32] <Pollywog> oh that did not come out right
[09:33] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: I tried putting the aliases in an identical file in /root too.
[09:33] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: let me see if I can find you a reference
[09:33] <soundray> dyrne: but the entries will be recreated on the next kernel upgrade (SecrethX)
[09:33] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: I am not sure that would work either
[09:33] <AmaroqWolf> It didn't. xP
[09:33] <Pollywog> but I think it would if you use a function
[09:33] <fabiano> the ff is unpacked how i install now?
[09:33] <SecrethX> soundray, so, it wont really help? ;o nvm, then I just leave it that way
[09:33] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: let me see if I can find you a reference
[09:34] <topgun553> When I tried to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 I get the following error: Failed to fetch http://theli.free.fr/packages/dists/dapper/listen/binary-i386/Packages.gz 301 Moved Permanently
[09:34] <soundray> SecrethX: get a list of your installed kernels with 'dpkg -l linux-image-2*' (it helps if you widen or maximize the terminal window)
[09:34] <topgun553> Any idea on what i need to do to fix it
[09:34] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: okay. xD Perhaps I should have taken a linux tutorial before I installed it. I've gotten by good so far without one though.
[09:34] <Matt4781581> how much better is feisty than dapper?
[09:34] <Jello-red> nclife: My apologies then.
[09:34] <shd0w> Hey guys here is the sources.list I am using and below it i put the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11730
[09:34] <soundray> SecrethX: then remove the older kernels individually with a command like 'sudo apt-get --purge-remove linux-image-(version)'
[09:34] <topgun553> When I tried to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 I get the following error: Failed to fetch http://theli.free.fr/packages/dists/dapper/listen/binary-i386/Packages.gz 301 Moved Permanently
[09:34] <soundray> SecrethX: sorry mistake
[09:34] <ardchoille> Matt4781581: /join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic
[09:35] <soundray> SecrethX: then remove the older kernels individually with a command like 'sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-(version)'
[09:35] <topgun553> When I tried to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 I get the following error: Failed to fetch http://theli.free.fr/packages/dists/dapper/listen/binary-i386/Packages.gz 301 Moved Permanently What should I do to fix it?????
[09:35] <soundray> Matt4781581: 80 cosmic units
[09:35] <SecrethX> soundray, ok! thanks a lot!
[09:35] <matkix0s> Anyone have a PDA phone and require Active Sync to update it? I'm looking to somehow run this on ubutu. Please help!
[09:35] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x246.html
[09:35] <gnomefreak> topgun553: try a different mirror
[09:35] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: Thanks. I'll read that now.
[09:35] <topgun553> gnomefreak, i am doing it through the update manger, how would i select a different mirror
[09:35] <dylock> woot 1 hour till ubuntu-desktop is done installing
[09:35] <colbert> When I pop in a DVD and it shows its mounted, and I click "Play DVD" on the drive, it loads up VLC, but it doesn't play, VLC just sits there.. what's the command to make VLC play something? "wxvlc ?"
[09:36] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Looks like he is upgrading to Edgy but still had Dapper repos in his sources
[09:36] <fabiano> how i install nvidia?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: he might.
[09:36] <ardchoille> !nvidia | fabiano
[09:36] <ubotu> fabiano: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:36] <gnomefreak> !upgrade | topgun553
[09:36] <ubotu> topgun553: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:36] <sabotai> !Players
[09:36] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:36] <dylock> fabiano: get envy and it will do all the work for you
[09:36] <Mena> Hey how to set the verification
[09:36] <gnomefreak> topgun553: read the link ubotu gave
[09:36] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: That's not good is it?
[09:36] <Mena> for some repo
[09:36] <PinkFloyd> Could someone show me how to setup Samba, this manual is giving me a headache
[09:36] <topgun553> gnomefreak,  thats what I HAVE been going off of
[09:37] <fabiano> where i get envy?
[09:37] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: its just gonna fail to upgrade it doesnt have anything bad happen at this point
[09:37] <dylock> google envy nvidia
[09:37] <ardchoille> !envy
[09:37] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[09:37] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Ah, ok. thanks
[09:37] <gnomefreak> topgun553: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[09:37] <Laibsch> my LAN server edgy is crashing all the time: http://rafb.net/p/XvHDk119.html  At first I thought this was bug 71212 but it seems there is more.  Anybody willing to help me find what it is?
[09:37] <Mena> !verificationkey
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about verificationkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <Mena> !verification key
[09:37] <gnomefreak> Mena: what are you looking for?
[09:38] <shd0w> hey guys when i try to update my sources.list on my ubuntu 6.10 edgy server it breaks and then none of the repositories work i used souromatic to make a new sources.list and still get the error here is my sources.list and the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11730 anyne have any ideas on how to fix this or whats wrong?
[09:38] <fabiano> great
[09:38] <Mena> gnomefreak, i got some errors after updates
[09:38] <gnomefreak> Mena: and?
[09:38] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: I have an idea... have you tried putting sudo in the definition of the alias?
[09:38] <Mena> gnomefreak, and its on kubuntu  and in the channel i get no help
[09:39] <gnomefreak> Mena: you might want to give me more info if you want help
[09:39] <topgun553> gnomefreak, whats pastebin?
[09:39] <Mena> gnomefreak, this is an error  GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[09:39] <ardchoille> !paste | topgun553
[09:39] <ubotu> topgun553: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:39] <gnomefreak> Mena: join #ubuntu-effects and look in the topic for importing the public key
[09:39] <shd0w> hey gnome freak think you can help with my borken apt-get on my server?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ty ardchoille
[09:39] <soundray> Pollywog: I've suggested that -- AmaroqWolf was somehow opposed to that approach
[09:39] <Mena> gnomefreak, and also this  GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[09:39] <Pollywog> oic
[09:40] <kane77> how do I copy all from one folder to the other (including subdirectories)?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> shd0w: i guess but not without knowing what is wrong with it
[09:40] <Pollywog> on philosopjical grounds or moral?
[09:40] <Mena> gnomefreak, ok
[09:40] <wyndblade> kane77, cp -r *whatever*
[09:40] <gnomefreak> Mena: read the kubuntu.org site for riddells key and beryl how to for lupines
[09:40] <kane77> wyndblade, thx
[09:40] <shd0w> gnomefreal, here is the sources.list along with the error hey guys when i try to update my sources.list on my ubuntu 6.10
[09:40] <wyndblade> kane77, np
[09:40] <Pollywog> I would suggest he put "sudo" in the name of the alias too in order to avert tragedy
[09:40] <Mena> gnomefreak, ok
[09:41] <firefoxman> Is there a way to run ubuntu under windows? Besides useing VMWare
[09:41] <Laibsch> shd0w: Your Internet connection is down
[09:41] <soundray> Pollywog: <soundray> AmaroqWolf: alias='sudo admincommand'
[09:41] <gnomefreak> shd0w: can i have a link to wher eyou pasted your sources.list file?
[09:41] <Laibsch> shd0w: At least DNS is not working properly
[09:41] <soundray> Pollywog: <AmaroqWolf> soundray: aw, can't make myself type sudo? I like it better that way.
[09:41] <Pollywog> soundray: yes like that
[09:42] <Laibsch> gnomefreak: DNS resolve failures, the sources.list is fine.
[09:42] <shd0w> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11730 is where my sources.list and error are
[09:42] <gnomefreak> Laibsch: that doesnt always mean his connection is down
[09:42] <shd0w> it's not an internet problem becuase it can connect to sites with wget :(
[09:42] <jrib> AmaroqWolf: well you could alias "sudofoo" to "sudo somelongcomand"
[09:42] <redDEAD> i used to be able to play win32codecs and now i can't anyone have any ideas on what might of hapened?
[09:43] <jrib> AmaroqWolf: you would be typing "sudo" the way you like :)
[09:43] <bill_k> !vlc
[09:43] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:43] <gnomefreak> shd0w: are you on that pc atm?
[09:43] <shd0w> no
[09:44] <gnomefreak> shd0w: can you get on to the net with it?
[09:44] <PinkFloyd> This whole Samba business makes my head hurt
[09:44] <eternaljoy> has anyone ever figured out how to automatically login to hotmail?
[09:44] <shd0w> gnomefreak, yes :(  i have a ssh connection to it right now and webmin
[09:44] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[09:44] <firefoxman> Is there a way to run ubuntu under windows? Besides useing VMWare
[09:44] <yigal> eternaljoy:with evolution
[09:44] <gnomefreak> shd0w: behind a proxy on that pc?
[09:44] <eternaljoy> yigal: firefox
[09:44] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok
[09:45] <PinkFloyd> firefoxman: doubt it
[09:45] <shd0w> gnomefreak, nope
[09:45] <thrax> firefoxman, maybe microsoft virtualPC
[09:45] <katara> hi, i how can i set a network name to my nick, i have eth0 an eth2 (no eth1) how can i make my eth2 eth1 device?
[09:45] <aoirthoir> any way to make gnome always open my windows the same size and same place?
[09:45] <yigal> does anyone use Feisty + Evolution for mail?
[09:45] <topgun553> gnomefreak, here i think i did what you want:: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11733/
[09:45] <gnomefreak> shd0w: please comment out all non official repos and take the "us." out of the official ones and run apt-get update
[09:45] <jrib> !devilspie > aoirthoir    (aoirthoir, see the private message from ubotu)
[09:45] <cwillu> katara: /etc/iftab
[09:45] <ardchoille> aoirthoir: That would be the job of the window manager and Metacity doesn't do it afaik
[09:46] <aoirthoir> ardchoille: thanks jrib just gave me a link.
[09:46] <soundray> aoirthoir: no, use ratpoison instead of Gnome+metacity. Or look into devilspie
[09:46] <gnomefreak> topgun553: in terminal type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" without the " and paste the output in pastebin
[09:46] <cwillu> !pastebin
[09:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <sanityx> How can I disable IPv6 on my ubuntu box?
[09:46] <wire93> i need help configuring a static ip on ubuntu-server 6.10
[09:46] <yigal> aoirthoir: or wmii
[09:46] <ardchoille> jrib: Nice, I forgot about devilspie
[09:46] <ardchoille> !ipv6
[09:46] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:46] <gnomefreak> !ipv6 | sanityx
[09:46] <ubotu> sanityx: please see above
[09:46] <sanityx> ty!
[09:46] <jrib> aoirthoir: that wiki page is terribly outdated.  Just use the 'devilspie' package in the repositories, no need to compile it.  It is a bit sparse on documentation though so use the wiki page for good links
[09:47] <yigal> does anyone use Feisty and Evolution as mail client? There is a problem with the help contents path and I want to confirm with others?
[09:47] <firefoxman> !fiesty
[09:47] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:47] <gnomefreak> yigal: join #ubuntu+!
[09:47] <firefoxman> !schedule
[09:47] <gnomefreak> oops
[09:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:47] <gnomefreak> yigal: #ubuntu+1
[09:47] <Arfinius> Match COD2 ==> 2VS2 NOW
[09:47] <yigal> TY
[09:47] <aoirthoir> ok i will take all of your advices
[09:48] <yigal> right wrong room
[09:48] <aoirthoir> thank you kindly
[09:48] <akemtper> anyone know anything about installing a Realplayer Binary file?
[09:48] <wire93> does anyone have experience setting up static ip addresses?
[09:48] <topgun553> gnomefreak, done
[09:48] <topgun553> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11735/
[09:48] <Arfinius> Match COD2 ==> 2VS2 NOW
[09:48] <jrib> !realplayer > akemtper    (akemtper, see the private message from ubotu)
[09:48] <gnomefreak> akemtper: i have a deb for it
[09:48] <Gnomus> Hey
[09:48] <Arfinius> Match COD2 ==> 2VS2 NOW
[09:48] <gnomefreak> i think my link is in that guide
[09:48] <gnomefreak> if not i need to change it
[09:48] <Gnomus> I need a nice IRC client
[09:48] <Gnomus> for linux
[09:48] <soundray> wire93: don't ask an anyone question. Ask a How do I question
[09:49] <gemaco> xchat
[09:49] <wire93> soundtray right
[09:49] <Arfinius> Match COD2 ==> 2VS2 NOW
[09:49] <cafuego_> !ops
[09:49] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[09:49] <choco_> yeah, like mirc was... i had having to type in each place
[09:49] <gnomefreak> topgun553: you need to seek guidence from #automatix please
[09:49] <gnomefreak> cafuego_: ?
[09:49] <ompaul> cafuego, ?
[09:49] <cafuego_> Arfinius: Seems to be an idiot
[09:49] <cafuego_> ta
[09:49] <choco_> always
[09:49] <gnomefreak> !automatix | topgun553
[09:49] <ubotu> topgun553: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:49] <ardchoille> Gnomus: xchat, irssi, bitchx, there are many.
[09:49] <wire93> how do i make my static ip configuration resolve
[09:50] <soundray> wire93: System-Administration-Networking, there you can choose an interface and configure it with static addresses
[09:50] <firefoxman> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatIsubuntu/releases seemes to be dated. It says 6.10 and 6.06 have yet to be releaced
[09:50] <Gnomus> I need one that i can modify with skins etc
[09:50] <firefoxman> nevermind
[09:50] <Gnomus> since those i have tried are so ugly
[09:50] <gnomefreak> topgun553: you have all non official repos in your sources.list file. we do not support automatix nor the repos it uses outside of our own
[09:50] <choco_> i forgo windows for this
[09:50] <choco_> down with ms
[09:50] <wire93> soundtray, i'm running ubuntu-server
[09:50] <firefoxman> For what?
[09:51] <choco_> sorry
[09:51] <firefoxman> choco_: For what?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> topgun553: you also cant have dapper and edgy repos in sources.list
[09:51] <mdtyke> Hey.. I cant get the upgrade manager to show, can anyone help?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> one or other not both
[09:51] <cafuego_> wire93: You need a corrent /etc/resolv.conf
[09:51] <topgun553> gnomefreak, how do you get music/videos/anything without automatix
[09:51] <choco_> for linux
[09:51] <choco_> or this version at least
[09:51] <choco_> so easy to install
[09:51] <jrib> mdtyke: what happens when you try to run it in a terminal?
[09:51] <topgun553> gnomefreak, I don't know what your saying
[09:51] <gnomefreak> topgun553: multiverse repo
[09:51] <soundray> wire93: in that case, you should edit /etc/network/interfaces. There are docs in man interfaces and samples on the wiki
[09:51] <mdtyke> Im actually running Kubuntu, but nobody there is able (or ever alive) to help
[09:51] <cafuego_> wire93: it nomally contains 'search <domainname>' and 'nameserver <your name server ip>'
[09:51] <topgun553> gnomefreak, i don't know what repo means
[09:51] <wire93> soundtray i've set up my interfaces correctly with information that worked on the windows server prior to, /etc/resolv.conf is set with the 2 nameservers from my windows server prior to as well
[09:51] <sabotai> y cant rythmbox music player open an .mp3 file?
[09:51] <choco_> (sorry for the late response)
[09:52] <firefoxman> Is a beta of Fiesty Faun for Xubuntu ready yet?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> topgun553: each line in your sources.list file is a repo.
[09:52] <LjL> !mp3 > sabotai    (sabotai, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:52] <mdtyke> I followed the instructions on the site, jrib.. but the thing never appears to give me the option to get the beta
[09:52] <gnomefreak> !repository | topgun553
[09:52] <ubotu> topgun553: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:52] <jrib> firefoxman: #ubuntu+1 for feisty please
[09:52] <shd0w> gnomefreak, I put the defualt repos on it and removed the us and still getting errors here is the new sources.list and errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11738/
[09:52] <wire93> cafuego can I pm you?
[09:52] <sower> irc://Srlteam.strayaland.org/strayaland
[09:52] <choco_> i never heard of Ubuntu until i saw a video of it comparing to vista
[09:52] <aoirthoir> brb gonna try devilspie
[09:52] <soundray> wire93: look here: http://textsnippets.com/posts/show/319  -- the eth0 section
[09:52] <gnomefreak> shd0w: can you ping archive.ubuntu.com?
[09:53] <jrib> mdtyke: for feisty?
[09:53] <wire93> soundtray, i've already been to that site and i assure you the information is correct.
[09:53] <sower> irc://Srlteam.strayaland.org/strayaland
[09:53] <mdtyke> Yea
[09:53] <topgun553> gnomefreak, thanks for your help, but I think I have had ennough problems with linux... I have given it a shot for 5 months, time to go buy Vista
[09:53] <jrib> mdtyke: join me in #ubuntu+1
[09:53] <gnomefreak> shd0w: did you use a text editor or synaptic to add the repos?
[09:53] <soundray> wire93: so what happens when you run 'sudo ifup eth0'
[09:53] <preaction> how many people have visited Dell's website and put in their vote for Ubuntu OEM installs?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> topgun553: hint stay away from automatix have 1/8th of the problems
[09:54] <choco_> i didn't know dell had that
[09:54] <preaction> apologies, i'll move to offtopic
[09:54] <choco_> i'm checking it out
[09:54] <shd0w> gnomefreak, unknown host :( lol think it's internet problem?
[09:54] <topgun553> gnomefreak, stay with windows only have to deal with spyware
[09:54] <dyrne> preaction: not sure i want ubuntu associated with dell :)
[09:54] <gnomefreak> shd0w: that would be it
[09:54] <choco_>  haha
[09:54] <choco_> why not?
[09:54] <topgun553> gnomefreak, spyware > not being able to print
[09:54] <gnomefreak> topgun553: just letting you know automatix is a bad script and can mess up your install
[09:54] <sower> irc://Srlteam.strayaland.org/strayaland
[09:54] <cafuego_> not sure i want to be associated with del
[09:55] <shd0w> gnomefreak, i edited my ect/hosts file you want to see that?
[09:55] <sower> Srlteam.strayaland.org/strayaland
[09:55] <sower> irc://Srlteam.strayaland.org/strayaland
[09:55] <sower> Srlteam.strayaland.org/strayaland
[09:55] <gnomefreak> shd0w: sure
[09:55] <cafuego_> sower: stop it
[09:55] <choco_> dell makes good computers? i like them the most compared to the rest
[09:55] <Pollywog> I would buy one of their machines if they preinstalled Linux
[09:55] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Thank you
[09:55] <cafuego_> choco_: 5 identical dead laptops disagree
[09:55] <gnomefreak> choco_: see #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:55] <soundray> wire93: are you ignoring me now?
[09:55] <wire93> soundray, i just brought it down, sudo ifup eth1, it takes a long time for it to work
[09:55] <AmaroqWolf> jrib: *chuckles* I'd prefer to have a space between sudo and the command. I dunno why. Just looks more like an actual command that way. Pollywog: I must be doing the function wrong. I added an identical set of lines to bashrc to allow it to find the existance of a .bash_functions file, then I added said file with a function in it.
[09:55] <babag> i just added a section on the wiki: 'Manual editing of the xorg.conf file'
[09:55] <Xif> Is there a good tutorial about getting good video playback on Edgy?
[09:55] <RoundyT1> why can't I login to root on my server?
[09:55] <babag> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto?highlight=%28serial%29%7C%28mouse%29
[09:55] <choco_> oh! sorry guys
[09:55] <choco_> k
[09:55] <choco_> see ya
[09:55] <roland1> how do i install inetd on ubuntu
[09:55] <babag> if anyone wants to check it.
[09:56] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: oh wait.. xD It was an error on my part. The command had to end in ;
[09:56] <gnomefreak> shd0w: i will be back something is not working here :(
[09:56] <babag> had problem with serial mouse.
[09:56] <Xif> some players I tried were playing in poor quality, the others play too slowly.
[09:56] <ardchoille> !sudo | RoundyT1
[09:56] <ubotu> RoundyT1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:56] <babag> it's what got mine to work
[09:56] <wire93> soundray, it doesnt say anything, gives me a prompt. cant ping google.com
[09:56] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[09:56] <roland1> !inetd
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <Xif> my guess is that they don't take advantage of my video card's capabilites
[09:56] <gnomefreak> shd0w: did you use synaptic to add the repos?
[09:56] <Galban> preacion where at dell's web site to vote?
[09:56] <wire93> soudntray, after taking like 3 minutes to give me a prompt
[09:56] <soundray> wire93: have you tried to 'tail -f /var/log/syslog &' while you bring it up?
[09:56] <shd0w> gnomefreak, here is my ect/hosts http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11740/
[09:56] <lowtek> Hey, does Ubuntu offer anything like 'a poor man' Exchange Server
[09:57] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: so you would be opposed to something like alias sudoadmincom="sudo admincommand"?
[09:57] <shd0w> gnomefreak, nope i have ubuntu server it doesnt come with a desktop
[09:57] <Pollywog> that might work
[09:57] <gnomefreak> if so you may have a corrupt file. ive seen this alot on edgy (thinking of name)
[09:57] <wire93> soudntray, i will do that. one moment
[09:57] <soundray> wire93: it sounds like it's still looking for a DHCP address
[09:57] <gnomefreak> shd0w: ah ok
[09:57] <soundray> wire93: the tail would clear that up
[09:57] <gnomefreak> shd0w: that looks fine to me
[09:58] <soundray> wire93: actually, ifup would echo the DHCP requests on stderr as well, so it can't be that.
[09:58] <Pollywog> but just putting sudo in front of an alias on the command line will probably not work
[09:58] <matkix0s> whats a good emulator with usb support?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> soundray: any good with connection issues?
[09:58] <Pollywog> might work with a function
[09:58] <wire93> soundtray, it says it cant find ntp.ubuntu.com
[09:58] <lowtek> ifc://freenode/ubuntu-devel
[09:58] <soundray> gnomefreak: yes, I connect well, particularly with women ;)
[09:58] <gnomefreak> soundray: ;)
[09:58] <lowtek> irc://freenode/ubuntu-devel
[09:58] <roland1> how do i install inetd ?
[09:58] <wire93> soundray 'network is down', etc.
[09:58] <soundray> gnomefreak: is it the shd0w problem?
[09:58] <shd0w> gnomefreak, hmm what could be causing the problem i have just uncommented repos from the defualt server installation and it freaks out lol
[09:59] <matkix0s> !wine
[09:59] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:59] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: Yeah. xD I'd like to have a space between sudo and the command so it looks like a real command. I think I have this function thing figured out though. What's neat is variables like $1 and $2 that automatically contain arguments passed to it. xD Which lets me do better what I wanted to do.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> soundray: yeah
[10:00] <soundray> wire93: scan dmesg for messages relating to eth1. Maybe the driver reports a problem.
[10:00] <shd0w> gnomefreak, ive reformatted it i dont even know how many times whenever i touch the sources.list it freaks out lol
[10:00] <hobbes487> soundray: i ran the memory test for half an hour.  I still have the same problem:  Hangs on 'Booting the Kernel' after selecting stsrt of install Ubuntu
[10:00] <Fouad> I just installed Ubuntu to dual boot with my WinXP, but I need GCC to compile my modem's driver
[10:01] <soundray> shd0w: can you ping the archive servers?
[10:01] <wire93> soundtray, i got it working. somehow the info i wrote in my /etc/resolv.conf was changed?
[10:01] <bruenig> Fouad, get the package build-essential
[10:01] <soundray> hobbes487: ha, you remind me of the guy who says 'I had an ultrasound scan, but it didn't make me feel better, either' :)
[10:01] <soundray> hobbes487: did the screen stay blue during the memtest?
[10:02] <wire93> soundray, what must i do in order to have those changes i made stay permanent
[10:02] <hobbes487> soundray: yes
[10:02] <gav616> any 1 got a fix for nosound.. :S
[10:02] <bruenig> !sound
[10:02] <RoundyT1> How can i see if mysql is running as well as LAMP?
[10:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:02] <Fouad> bruening: the fact that my modem doesn't work(without the driver that i need to compile) under linux should make that quite difficult
[10:02] <jrib> Fouad: it should be on the cd, just insert the cd and you should be prompted to add it as a repository
[10:02] <soundray> wire93: save the interfaces file, that should be all
[10:02] <preaction> RoundyT1: ps ax | grep "mysqld"
[10:02] <bruenig> Fouad, get the package, put it on a cd or flash drive or whatever, and then go from there
[10:02] <Fouad> jrib: will try that, thanks
[10:02] <soothsay> Can someone running Eft and up-to-date ruby from repository post the output of ruby --version?
[10:03] <Fouad> bruening: how do i do that?
[10:03] <soundray> hobbes487: there are a few boot options you could try out: noapic nolapic
[10:03] <choco_> is there as straight forward (or easy way) to install BERYL. i have nvidia graphics drivers.
[10:03] <preaction> RoundyT1: replace "mysqld" with "apache" to see if apache is running, the Perl/PHP/Python is done on a per-request basis
[10:03] <bruenig> Fouad, well here is the package, you can do the rest I hope, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.3_i386.deb
[10:03] <wire93> soundray alright. thanks for you help mate!
[10:03] <soundray> !bootoptions > hobbes487, read ubotu's private message please
[10:03] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: xD dangit, functions aren't working with sudo either.
[10:03] <kpenrose_> soothsay: ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i486-linux] 
[10:04] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: what's your worry about alias='sudo command'?
[10:04] <soothsay> kpenrose_: Thank you.
[10:04] <choco_> i found a  couple websites that go step by step... but they were for the ati graphics card....  i missed some steps
[10:04] <RoundyT1> how do i get to PHPmyadmin?
[10:04] <Fouad> bruening: well, I'm on windows here, so how can i figure out what dependencies it has? build essential is only a metapackage IIRC
[10:04] <shd0w> apt-get
[10:04] <bruenig> Fouad, oh yeah good point, I am a retard
[10:04] <soundray> wire93: paste your /etc/network/interfaces on paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you want us to have a look
[10:04] <bruenig> Fouad, just get the package gcc
[10:04] <sabotai> will anyone be willing to check my aadebug :D
[10:04] <shd0w> roundyt1, i belive you can apt-get it
[10:05] <soundray> wire93: no clues from dmesg?
[10:05] <bruenig> Fouad, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/gcc-4.1_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[10:05] <shd0w> anyone here good with ubuntu server 6.10
[10:05] <Fouad> bruenig: could you check the dependencies for me? because it will be quite annoying to keep rebooting
[10:05] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: No worry really. I just wanted to see if I could make it behave more like an actual command because I would've liked it better that way. xD
[10:05] <RoundyT1> so where tha heck would it go though?
[10:05] <soundray> shd0w: can you ping the archive servers?
[10:05] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: you are using backticks right?
[10:05] <shd0w> nope lol
[10:05] <ikonia> shd0w: just ask
[10:05] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: no. Backticks? as in, \
[10:06] <soundray> shd0w: can you ping other sites?
[10:06] <Pollywog> like this:  sudo `function`
[10:06] <bruenig> Fouad, the dependencies are gcc, g++, make, dpkg-dev and libc-dev
[10:06] <shd0w> i ahve just tweaked the sources.list file and nothing ese and it just breaks this time i edited ect/hosts so tht could be it
[10:06] <}btorch{> has anyone here used systemrecuecd before ?
[10:06] <sabotai> yea
[10:07] <sabotai> btorch: yea
[10:07] <soundray> shd0w: did you paste that as matt? Looks okay to me
[10:07] <dylock> ug i need to turn off joins and parts for htis channel
[10:07] <dylock> drives me crazy
[10:07] <Fouad> bruenig: great:) so i guess i need make and libc-dev as well. thanks a million for your help
[10:07] <shd0w> yes that was me
[10:07] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: I wasn't.
[10:07] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: did you try it?
[10:07] <ardchoille> }btorch{: I use it all the time. /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:07] <Pollywog> you might need to fiddle with it
[10:07] <bruenig> Fouad, yeah, you can go to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ and navigate to them
[10:08] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: backticks in the terminal or in the alias?
[10:08] <soundray> shd0w: can you paste your sources.list again pls
[10:08] <RoundyT1> OK question. I have SSH installed on my Ubuntu server, how do i login to the server via ssh from this Ubuntu laptop?
[10:08] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: it won't work with the alias, I meant backticks like this:
[10:08] <soundray> RoundyT1: 'ssh user@serverhostname'
[10:08] <Pollywog> sudo `functionname`
[10:09] <bruenig> or you can use dollar parenthesis
[10:09] <bruenig> s/is/es/
[10:09] <roland1> help how do i install inetd
[10:09] <Pollywog> bruenig: yes that might  work too
[10:10] <sanityx> Where are the C header files stored on ubuntu server?
[10:10] <soundray> roland1: which ubuntu version?
[10:10] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: it won't work like that either.
[10:10] <bruenig> AmaroqWolf, what are you doing exactly
[10:10] <RoundyT1> Nautilus cannot display "ssh://roundy@unbuntu".
[10:11] <bruenig> RoundyT1, unbuntu?
[10:11] <soundray> RoundyT1: you open a terminal and enter the ssh command there
[10:11] <dyrne> sanityx: elsewhere
[10:11] <AmaroqWolf> Well, the function is to let me mount a shared folder from a windows computer. function winmount {
[10:11] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: keep reading, I think you can get it to work
[10:11] <sanityx> dyrne, Gee, thanks.
[10:11] <user_> peep
[10:12] <RoundyT1> nothing happened
[10:12] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: just put it in /etc/fstab with options noauto,user
[10:12] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: then you can do 'mount /mntpoint' as user
[10:12] <user_> bye
[10:12] <user_> exit
[10:13] <kristjan_> how do I apply patch linux source? cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-12/ and then trying cat /home/kristjan/vesafb-tng-1.0-rc2-2.6.20-rc2.patch | patch -p1 results in: http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4582/pilt4dc4.png
[10:13] <RoundyT1> nothing happens when i type "ssh roundy@ubuntu"
[10:13] <roland1> can anyone see what i write now ?
[10:13] <kitchen> I've rebooted eft recently and my sound disappeared; both sound cards are configured (master - pcm) x 100% unmuted, both cards have speakers that work, no sound
[10:13] <RoundyT1> yes roland1
[10:13] <kitchen> ideas?
[10:13] <aoirthoir> ok i have devilspy now
[10:13] <soundray> roland1: yes, but it's faint
[10:13] <aoirthoir> er devils pie
[10:13] <soundray> roland1: press the keys harder
[10:13] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: hmm? wouldn't I have to add more stuff since it's a windows shared folder?
[10:13] <Pollywog> won't pmount let any user mount shares?
[10:14] <sanityx> Seriously, I treid to install vmware, and it keeps prompting me for headers but i installed them
[10:14] <jrib> kristjan_: try a different -p
[10:14] <kristjan_> jrib: like=
[10:14] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: yes. I was just mentioning those you need to enable 'mount' without sudo
[10:14] <xuser> Where does mplayer looks for codecs in ubuntu?
[10:14] <jrib> kristjan_: do you understand what -p does?
[10:14] <kristjan_> jrib: of course not :)
[10:14] <soundray> roland1: which ubuntu version?
[10:15] <Pollywog> vmware wants kernel headers
[10:15] <RoundyT1> why can't i SSH into my server? ----- "ssh roundy@ubuntu"
[10:15] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: oh, I see. So then I can use the function without sudo.
[10:15] <Pollywog> but you need to prepare the kernel source first
[10:15] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: not the function, the mount command
[10:15] <kitchen> RoundyT1 ssh-server not installed? networking error? cables plugged in?  sshd running?
[10:15] <jrib> kristjan_: take a quick look at the man page, if it isn't clear feel free to ask me.  You can get to the -p part quickly by pressing:  /-p   then the enter button and you can use the 'n' button to go to the next match
[10:15] <matkix0s> Okay, so I have ubuntu installed and now I want to install xp for my pda phone, so I can update it.
[10:15] <RoundyT1> how do i start ssh on the server?
[10:15] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: yes you don't need sudo for what you are trying to do
[10:16] <RoundyT1> command?
[10:16] <soundray> RoundyT1: because your local computer doesn't know the name 'ubuntu' perhaps. Use the IP address instead of 'ubuntu'
[10:16] <matkix0s>  I want to do a dual boot, how can I do this with out removing my ubuntu install
[10:16] <kristjan_> jrib: um I don't understand you
[10:16] <jrib> RoundyT1: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start
[10:16] <Pollywog> randyT1 /etc/init.d/samba start
[10:16] <roland1> how do i install inetd package
[10:16] <RoundyT1> idk the ip (dang) lol
[10:16] <cafuego_> Pollywog: You don't need the kernel sourc,e only headers. 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[10:16] <jrib> kristjan_: are you familiar with man pages?
[10:16] <Pollywog> randyT1 /etc/init.d/ssh start
[10:16] <soundray> roland1: WHICH UBUNTU VERSION?
[10:16] <kristjan_> jrib: yes
[10:16] <Pollywog> sorry I misread, saw samba
[10:16] <roland1> soundray: 6.10
[10:16] <RoundyT1> thanks
[10:17] <jrib> kristjan_: go to the man page for patch by typing 'man patch'
[10:17] <RoundyT1> let me go check that
[10:17] <soundray> roland1: did I have to shout to make you answer that?
[10:17] <bruenig> !info xinetd | rolandi
[10:17] <Pollywog> cafuego: oic
[10:17] <ubotu> rolandi: xinetd: replacement for inetd with many enhancements. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.3.14-1 (edgy), package size 127 kB, installed size 356 kB
[10:17] <xuser> anyone where does mplayer looks for codecs in ubuntu? or how can i see the package details.
[10:17] <jrib> kristjan_: now press these buttons followed by the ENTER key:   /-p
[10:17] <soundray> roland1: 6.10 doesn't have or need inetd. It has been superseded.
[10:17] <roland1> soundray: im using gaim to irc its not too good
[10:17] <crdlb> xuser, /usr/lib/win32
[10:17] <Pollywog> xuser /usr/lib/win32
[10:17] <shafto> roland1, get XChat! :D
[10:17] <roland1> i am installing xchat now
[10:17] <soundray> roland1: all you need to do is open your eyes after you've asked a question.
[10:18] <xuser> crdlb: Pollywog: let me try again, i think i put then there.
[10:18] <jrib> kristjan_: now press the 'n' key to go to the next match.  As you see '/' lets you search man pages
[10:18] <AmaroqWolf> soundray, Pollywog: so, I can just add any shared folders I need to fstab with those options to make them able to be mounted without sudo? I'm not sure what the syntax of that file is though. How I'd add something to it.
[10:18] <kristjan_> jrib: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild - this tutorial doesn't say how to cd /usr/src/linux
[10:18] <soundray> roland1: did you get me about inetd?
[10:18] <buckweat420> I like Kvirc3 my self as a IRC client
[10:18] <matkix0s>  I want to do a dual boot, how can I do this with out removing my ubuntu install?
[10:18] <cafuego_> coffee, then
[10:18] <mon^rch> can somebody pretty pretty please help me out with creating mountpoints for my ftp users??  pleeeeease
[10:18] <diepruis> matkix0s: that's pretty complicated
[10:19] <RoundyT1> jrib "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start" -- action "start" failed
[10:19] <bruenig> matkix0s, do it, then replace grub
[10:19] <bruenig> !grub | matkix0s
[10:19] <ubotu> matkix0s: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:19] <jrib> RoundyT1: are you sure it isn't already running?
[10:19] <diepruis> matkix0s: you might want to try the forums first, or even the wiki
[10:19] <joe_k> Hi, i just installed ubuntu server 6.10 and i can't apt-get install xfs-tools.... i didn't setup the network on first install, do I need to redo a setup to get network package repos?
[10:19] <RoundyT1> jrib ps ax | grep "ssh"
[10:19] <RoundyT1> ?
[10:19] <soundray> roland1: HELLO did you get me about inetd?
[10:19] <xuser> crdlb: is there anything i need to edit  in mplayer?
[10:19] <xuser> Pollywog: ?
[10:19] <mon^rch> can somebody please help me with creating mountpoints for my ftp users...
[10:19] <buckweat420> matkix0s: I suggest to put windows on your box first then ubuntu...
[10:20] <jrib> RoundyT1: yes, is /usr/sbin/sshd running?
[10:20] <buckweat420> Not Vise Versa
[10:20] <Pollywog> yo?
[10:20] <RoundyT1> ...let me check, lol this sucks, its in the other room
[10:20] <matkix0s> But I don't want to loose everything i've done with this os...
[10:20] <Pollywog> I was afk
[10:20] <hobbes487> soundray: i tried adding the noapic aolpic boot options with no change
[10:20] <zero88> how would i install EVERYTHING i need to watch Any Kind of movie or downloaded video???
[10:20] <diepruis> matkix0s: it can be done, it just takes some preparation and such
[10:20] <bluemchen43> hello
[10:20] <bruenig> !restricted | zero88
[10:20] <ubotu> zero88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:20] <goose> Greetings, I was wondering if some one could answer a few questions for me about Gnome 2.18
[10:20] <xuser> Pollywog: is there anything i need to edit  in mplayer?
[10:21] <matkix0s> Darn.... I guess ill be installing my os again...
[10:21] <matkix0s> all of them
[10:21] <mon^rch> can someone please help me with creating mountpoints for my ftp users?
[10:21] <jrib> kristjan_: ok
[10:21] <bruenig> goose, ask away but to preempt, no you can't get it on ubuntu unless you want to compile it of course
[10:21] <matkix0s> What a bitch with my graphic card drivers.
[10:21] <buckweat420> Ubuntuguide.org is teh roxxorz
[10:21] <diepruis> matkix0s: try the wiki and forums first
[10:21] <Pollywog> xuser no you just need to install mplayer, the fonts and skins, and maybe the codecs
[10:21] <Pollywog> the codecs are at medibuntu
[10:21] <diepruis> matkix0s: I did it by reading up on the subject
[10:21] <goose> bruenig, I understand that I was looking to see if there was a howto on how to actually compile the desktop
[10:21] <bruenig> codecs are in the repos, not just medibuntu
[10:22] <Pollywog> bruenig: oic
[10:22] <soundray> hobbes487: two things (I'm leaving soon): check that your CD is okay (there is an entry for it in the boot menu), and if it is, you should try i386. It is marginally slower than amd64, but causes fewer problems in general.
[10:22] <cafuego_> goose: Waste of time.
[10:22] <Pollywog> even a pollywog can do it
[10:22] <kristjan_> jrib: maybe I'm just to new to patching - doesn't this screen tell to choose something instead? http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4582/pilt4dc4.png
[10:22] <mon^rch> can somebody please help me with creating mountpoints for my ftp users?
[10:22] <goose> May I ask why? Pollywog
[10:22] <cafuego_> goose: Feisty (beta out today) contains Gnome 2.18.
[10:22] <bruenig> !repeat | mon^rch
[10:22] <bruenig> !repeat > mon^rch
[10:22] <bruenig> ubotu, tell mon^rch about repeat
[10:22] <ubotu> mon^rch: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:22] <diepruis> goose: did you check the gnome desktop
[10:22] <diepruis> goose: usually there should be a README or something with the code
[10:22] <RoundyT1> jrib 3582 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/sbin/sshd
[10:22] <Pollywog> goose what what?
[10:22] <diepruis> goose: or on the site
[10:22] <xuser> Pollywog: i have all that, the problem is mplayer won't find the codecs
[10:22] <catid> does anyone know how to make sdl use pulseaudio?
[10:23] <jrib> kristjan_: yeah, because you didn't tell give it the right -p
[10:23] <sanityx> Ok, how come I can only isntall a 2.6.17-10 kernel, but when i install headers theyre all for 2.6.17-11 on Ubuntu 6.10 Server?
[10:23] <Pollywog> xuser: that's odd
[10:23] <jrib> kristjan_: if you understand what -p means then you will know what to do
[10:23] <RoundyT1> jrib 3695 tty1 S+ 0:00 grep ssh
[10:23] <jrib> RoundyT1: yes, you have ssh running
[10:23] <Pollywog> you installed w32codecs ?
[10:23] <hobbes487> soundray: when i try to check the CD i have the same problem
[10:23] <goose> ::nods:: I checked the readme, but to be honest, it confused the hell out of me, could some one point me in the direction of the latest beta?
[10:23] <kristjan_> jrib: what do I type in there (this window is still open like that)
[10:23] <jrib> kristjan_: I would close that, ctrl-c
[10:23] <RoundyT1> jrib so any reason why it wouldn't be working?
[10:24] <mon^rch> ahem... per the repeat msg, bruenig... I am finding it hard that nobody knows how to help me
[10:24] <jrib> RoundyT1: can you ssh into localhost?
[10:24] <sanityx> When I do a uname -a it says im running 2.6.17-10, but when i do dpkg -l linux-server it says 2.6.17-11
[10:24] <cafuego_> goose: it should linked off www.ubuntu.com
[10:24] <Western_Digital> HEY!
[10:24] <sanityx> Whats up with that?
[10:24] <bruenig> mon^rch, well clearly they don't
[10:24] <RoundyT1> jrib im somewhat of a noob, not sure,
[10:24] <soundray> hobbes487: then there's definitely something wrong with it.
[10:24] <goose> Many Thanks cafuego
[10:24] <Western_Digital> Anyone have a new features of the Fiesty Fawn?
[10:24] <cafuego_> Western_Digital: sit down, shut up, and hold my data
[10:24] <jrib> RoundyT1: try 'ssh localhost' and enter the details for your user
[10:24] <LjL> !feisty > Western_Digital    (Western_Digital, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:24] <hobbes487> soundray: ok.  i'll try burning it again.  thank
[10:24] <bruenig> mon^rch, the only other explanation is there is some organized conspiracy against answering you orchestrated between the 1102 people in the channel
[10:25] <Western_Digital> NOEZ
[10:25] <cafuego_> ;-)
[10:25] <dylock> interesting
[10:25] <kristjan_> jrib: but how do I find out what is the correct -p value?
[10:25] <Western_Digital> thanks
[10:25] <jrib> kristjan_: do you know what -p does now?
[10:25] <dylock> i installed ubuntu-desktop and it loaded up some edubuntu theme
[10:25] <Jellocube> !Feisty > Jellocube
[10:25] <RoundyT1> connection refused
[10:25] <RoundyT1> port 22?
[10:25] <kristjan_> jrib: I read the man page, but I do not understand it. very cryptic language
[10:26] <RoundyT1> jrib check my router for port 22?
[10:26] <mon^rch> bruenig: I don't suppose you know how to redirect a directory to another and make it have ro privs.?
[10:26] <RoundyT1> jrib connection refused
[10:26] <Otacon22> there is some linux software for gps ?(not driver, to see streets and where to go)
[10:26] <bruenig> mon^rch, symlink it, set the right permissions
[10:26] <ethernomad> anything special I need to do to make WINE work in ubuntu?????
[10:26] <bruenig> ethernomad, no
[10:26] <ethernomad> WINE no worky
[10:26] <diepruis> ethernomad: what's the problem?
[10:26] <mon^rch> I tried that... it's not working. I must be doing something wrong
[10:27] <bruenig> wine doesn't much care for 5 question marks, that crashes it sometimes
[10:27] <rinanir> Hi, i want to access windows shares on another pc on the network. how can i do that? samba ?
[10:27] <erUSUL> !samba > rinanir
[10:27] <ethernomad> I get this error: err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[10:27] <bruenig> ethernomad, what are you trying to run through wine?
[10:27] <RoundyT1> jrib ?? connection refused .... router problem?
[10:27] <ethernomad> Symantec Ghost
[10:27] <jrib> kristjan_: say you have /foo/bar/cat, -p1 will make it foo/bar/cat and -p2 will make it bar/cat.  Understand?
[10:27] <diepruis> ethernomad: Is that supposed to work?
[10:27] <SGorillaaaa> where can i add this repo http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/g/git-core/? ive forgotten the file
[10:28] <diepruis> ethernomad: appdb.winehq.org
[10:28] <jrib> kristjan_: it gets rid of slashes
[10:28] <bruenig> !partimage
[10:28] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-15ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[10:28] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: if I'm adding a windows network shared folder to fstab, do I use  smbfs as it's type?
[10:28] <Western_Digital> HEY UNTUNTU FOOS'!
[10:28] <cliebow> RoundyT1, i  can tell what is going on from all  the traffic..but did you apt-get install openssh-server?
[10:28] <Pollywog> vfat
[10:28] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: vfat
[10:28] <wolfwalker> !beryl
[10:28] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:28] <RoundyT1> cliebow yes, its installed on the server and apparently its running
[10:28] <Drathorin> If anyone isn't busy at the moment, could I possibly ask for a hand with anyone who has experience installing wacom tablets? (If they're not fully supported then that's fine too :))
[10:28] <ethernomad> ok, quick history...I have a ghost image (.GHO) on an NTFS'd usb hard drive.  I'm trying to retrieve some files from the image
[10:29] <bruenig> ethernomad, not sure if you can run that. Did you check out winehq to see if they have that listed as being able to be run
[10:29] <wolfwalker> My, but I do love that bot!
[10:29] <wolfwalker> !botsnack
[10:29] <cliebow> so ssh  ipofthat machine shpould ask for pw
[10:29] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:29] <Jellocube> !Zimbra > Jellocube
[10:29] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: okay. What's the point of using the smbfs argument in the mount command and using a different one in fstab?
[10:29] <ethernomad> checking now...how do you make your text show up in red?
[10:29] <Western_Digital> Does a BroadCom WLAN adpator work in Ubuntu?
[10:29] <cliebow> RoundyT1, so ssh  ipofthat machine shpould ask for pw
[10:29] <jrib> RoundyT1: possibly, though I thought it wouldn't if you used localhost
[10:29] <bruenig> ethernomad, it is showing up in red because it has your name in it
[10:29] <cafuego_> Western_Digital: Some do.
[10:29] <mon^rch> bruenig: thanks for any help you might have provided... I am simply seeking a way to "give back" to the community. Though an ftp would be a nice thing to do. I just cant seem to setup ro mountpoints for my users
[10:29] <kristjan_> jrib: so I have to find the text file it wants to patch and count how many slashes I got between it and cd'd into source?
[10:29] <RoundyT1> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[10:30] <Western_Digital> including?
[10:30] <ethernomad> breunig, like this?
[10:30] <ethernomad> oops
[10:30] <bruenig> ethernomad, except you have to spell it right
[10:30] <jrib> kristjan_: not really, try -p2
[10:30] <cafuego_> Western_Digital: They cna work either with native drivers, which need binary firmware or with ndiswrapepr, which just uses the windows driver.
[10:30] <rinanir> Hi, i want to access windows shares on another pc on the network. how can i do that? samba ?
[10:30] <ethernomad> bruenig, how bout that!
[10:30] <bruenig> ethernomad, yeah
[10:30] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: I have never uses smbfs in the mount command
[10:30] <RoundyT1> cliebow ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[10:30] <ethernomad> hehe
[10:30] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: are you using smbmount?
[10:30] <cliebow> RoundyT1, meet me in 3cliebow..this should be easy to sort out
[10:30] <bruenig> mon^rch, well assuming it is ext3, you should be able to setup permissions through chmod. I don't know much about ftp though
[10:30] <kristjan_> jrib: same error (can't find file to patch at input line 5)
[10:30] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: just mount
[10:30] <jlowell> hey folks where should I get a fiesty (or whatever is the latest unreleased) iso?
[10:31] <cafuego_> Western_Digital: My 4306 cards all work with the native driver+firmware, some 4318s work that way too. I don't know about 4310, 4312, 4213 and 4318+ cards
[10:31] <bruenig> !fiesty | jlowell
[10:31] <ubotu> jlowell: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:31] <jrib> kristjan_: what directory are you in?
[10:31] <ethernomad> bruenig, ok...I'm checking the wine site now.  if I can't use Ghost from Wine; do you know a way to extract files from a .gho image?
[10:31] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: let me check on the fstab thing
[10:31] <cliebow> RoundyT1, meet me in #cliebow..this should be easy to sort out
[10:31] <Razor44> hi,how could i "hide" previous kernels from grub menu?i just want to see the latest.
[10:31] <kristjan_> jrib: I cd into /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-12/ before applying pathc
[10:31] <massctrl> hi all, can I replace the uid's in my fstab with the actual names of the partitions such as sda1 sda5 etc,...?
[10:31] <ethernomad> bruenig, I've tried mount till my fingers bled
[10:32] <kristjan_> jrib: patch can be downloaded from here http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/vesafb-tng/
[10:32] <jrib> kristjan_: pastebin the full output
[10:32] <diepruis> massctrl: yes you can
[10:32] <diepruis> massctrl: but why?
[10:32] <Otacon22> there is some linux software for gps ?(not driver, to see streets and where to go)
[10:32] <jlowell> thx bruenig
[10:32] <mon^rch> bruenig: actually, I am using ntfs-3g on the drive with the dir's I want to share. perhaps that is the problem (although it really shouldn't be)
[10:32] <AmaroqWolf> sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=amaroq,password=************* //192.168.1.101/SharedDocs /mnt/SharedDocs/ (where the asterisks are my password for windows, of course)
[10:32] <kristjan_> jrib: but this screen describes exactly what is happening http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4582/pilt4dc4.png
[10:32] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: that looks correct
[10:32] <massctrl> diepruis: because i'm going to try to make my current ubuntu install run inside a xen environment,...
[10:32] <jrib> kristjan_: -p1 worked here...
[10:33] <jrib> kristjan_: that's with -p1 though
[10:33] <massctrl> diepruis: and the classic naming scheme just works easier with the xen config files
[10:33] <bruenig> mon^rch, do you want it read only by everyone
[10:33] <diepruis> massctrl: ahhh okay, yes you can do that
[10:33] <vox754> Otacon22, search using synaptic, or the web. I think Linux.org has lists of programs
[10:33] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: I misunderstood you earlier
[10:33] <dylock> aggggg well reinstalled alsa and still no sound
[10:33] <diepruis> massctrl: this way just prevents headaches with "moving" partitions and such
[10:34] <vox754> !gps > Otacon22
[10:34] <Pollywog> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-network-file-systems-nfssamba-in-ubuntu.html
[10:34] <kristjan_> jrib: weird, you cd into /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-12/ ?
[10:34] <bruenig> mon^rch, ok, if you want it read only by everyone, then you need to mount it with the options fmask=0333,dmask=0333
[10:34] <massctrl> diepruis: yeah, i've read about it, makes sense in a way,...
[10:34] <jrib> kristjan_: you're patching the headers, you need the linux source I believe, or at least the Documentation is only in the source
[10:34] <bruenig> mon^rch, or I guess you could just do umask=0333 instead of using both of those
[10:34] <diepruis> massctrl: but if the old way works better for you then it should still work, some of the lines in my fstab are like that and it still functions
[10:35] <Otacon22> vox754 Googleearth can work also without internet and without 3d acceleration?
[10:35] <Xif> I need to upgrade my fglrx driver to 8.34. any ideas?
[10:35] <N0IR> !beryl
[10:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:35] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: have you tried sbm4k?
[10:35] <N0IR> !audacity
[10:35] <ethernomad> bruenig, looks like an older version of Ghost will work in WINE...doesn't look like I can download it straight from the winehq site.  is it bad to ask if someone has a file in this channel?
[10:35] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[10:35] <Pollywog> smb4k
[10:35] <kristjan_> jrib: but I installed source
[10:35] <cafuego_> Otacon22: Not really without internet; but it can work without hardware 3d, yes. Just slowly :-)
[10:35] <Pollywog> or LinNeighborhood if you are a Gnomer
[10:35] <massctrl> diepruis: cool, when booting does ubuntu allways probe for the installed hardware and loads the modules respectively?  Or is all this more or less determined and fixed at install time ?
[10:35] <jrib> kristjan_: you're in the wrong directory.  How did you install the source?
[10:36] <diepruis> massctrl: I'm not certain, probably a mix of both
[10:36] <vox754> Otacon22, I don't know. I haven't used it and I don't have a GPS. But browsing information on the web may be useful. Sorry.
[10:36] <kristjan_> jrib: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[10:36] <cafuego_> massctrl: At boot time, so any new hardware is automatically picked up.
[10:36] <bruenig> ethernomad, I think officially it is frowned upon to do illegal things in here, so your call I guess. It would probably be a shot in the dark anyways, like someone has an old version of symantec ghost on their hard drive, why would they?
[10:36] <diepruis> massctrl: you can blacklist certain modules
[10:36] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: I've never heard of smb4k
[10:36] <jrib> kristjan_: that just gives you a tar.bz2 file.  You need to extract it somewhere
[10:36] <Otacon22>  vox754 thx anyway :D
[10:36] <Pollywog> it's a KDE gui app for mounting shares
[10:37] <cafuego_> massctrl: However, config files for say X are written at install time, so if you swap video cards, you may need to change those.
[10:37] <Pollywog> there are others as well but smb4k is NICE
[10:37] <kristjan_> jrib: please read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:37] <jrib> kristjan_: I have
[10:37] <massctrl> depruis, cafuego_ good, I'm wondering if it will work out more or less just copying my partition into a xen partition and boot the whole thing
[10:37] <diepruis> massctrl: good luck :)
[10:38] <kristjan_> jrib: extracting tar is "old" way; where has to be other way to apply patch
[10:38] <massctrl> diepruis: hehe yeah thanks
[10:38] <cafuego_> massctrl: Hmmm, probably.. but there is a nicer way, called `debootstrap'
[10:38] <shal3r> Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                                                             [fail] 
[10:38] <shal3r> how to debug?
[10:38] <diepruis> massctrl: I'm not entirely sure whether the xen server will provide hw interfaces the same as the bios or whatever
[10:38] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: lol, I'll remember that. I'm guessing that since mount's man page takes the first argument after -t as the type, that I can use the same type I use in the mount command in fstab, smbfs.
[10:38] <Led-Hed> when creating a user and assigning its shell,  what is the difference between /bin/false  and   /usr/sbin/nologin
[10:38] <cafuego_> massctrl: That installs into a chroot (that you can then boot with say Xen)
[10:38] <massctrl> diepruis: i've done exactly the same with gentoo, and there it works,
[10:39] <diepruis> massctrl: shouldn't be a problem then
[10:39] <kristjan_> jrib: that howto says nothing about extracting anything if you want to apply patch
[10:39] <Pollywog> AmaroqWolf: I believe so
[10:39] <massctrl> cafuego_, hmm yeah, I've been looking through the docs of it
[10:39] <jrib> kristjan_: no, you need to extract it to build the thing anyway
[10:39] <Pollywog> also see the smbmount command
[10:39] <cafuego_> in fact, I'm running it right now :-)
[10:39] <Pollywog> ssh -v host
[10:39] <cafuego_> except my chroots are actually nfs mounted disk filesystems
[10:39] <Pollywog> verbose connect for debugging
[10:39] <jrib> kristjan_: the first part that you are reading is assuming you use bzr to get the source
[10:39] <Pollywog> or ssh -vv hostname
[10:39] <massctrl> cafuego_ nice nice
[10:40] <Pollywog> two v's
[10:40] <Pollywog> not a w
[10:40] <jrib> kristjan_: s/bzr/git
[10:40] <laptop> What has beed upgraded in 7.04??
[10:40] <laptop> what are the changes, what did they work on?
[10:40] <cafuego_> massctrl: laptop GNome, pretty much
[10:40] <laptop> is there a list?
[10:40] <laptop> anywhere?
[10:40] <cafuego_> More info in #ubuntu+1 and on the website
[10:41] <mon^rch> hey bruenig: I did: "sudo mount --bind -o umask=0333 /media/sdb1/greg/My\ Music /home/romrider/Music" and the user has full privs (sigh) I've been at this a week now.
[10:41] <laptop> No list of alterations exist?
[10:41] <kristjan_> jrib: the way I understand it is that source is already extracted to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-12
[10:41] <jrib> kristjan_: it is not, that is just the headers
[10:41] <massctrl> cafuego_ I just want my ubuntu like it is know in a xen with vnc so I can connect and use it over a web/java client, i'm doing this right now with a gentoo desktop which is quite sexy, but rather have it replaced with ubuntu
[10:41] <diepruis> laptop: you can try the spec list on launchpad
[10:42] <matt_____> what is a good, simple, but effective chess program for edgy that allows me to play others online?
[10:42] <Xif> is there a tutorial for installing ATI OSS drivers?
[10:42] <jrib> kristjan_: extract the tarball and compare what you get with what is in linux-headers-* if you don't believe me :)
[10:42] <laptop> got a link?
[10:42] <diepruis> matt_____: not sure... have you tried glChess?
[10:42] <cafuego_> massctrl: I'd do a debootstrap install, then copy /home  - otherwise you may end up sifting through /etc for config files to change.
[10:42] <bruenig> mon^rch, what does --bind do
[10:42] <matt_____> diepruis: no, i'll check it out
[10:42] <shal3r> how to generate "/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key" on ubuntu?
[10:43] <kristjan_> jrib: well that tutorial needs to be rewritten then (find the part there it talks about patching)
[10:43] <massctrl> cafuego_ thanks for the tip, cheers
[10:43] <diepruis> laptop: hold on a sec
[10:43] <diepruis> laptop: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+specs
[10:43] <ethernomad> how do I use bittorrent in ubuntu?
[10:43] <mon^rch> bruenig: I think it allows a redirect (although Im not really sure)
[10:43] <cafuego_> massctrl: Next step, shared auth using pam_ldap ;-)
[10:43] <diepruis> laptop: not all of them are for feisty
[10:44] <kristjan_> jrib: that howto makes reader believe that patch can be applied to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-12
[10:44] <ethernomad> I don't see it listed under Applications
[10:44] <Jowi> matt_____, http://www.freechess.org (FICS) is very popular. apt-cache search fics to see if eboard is in the repo.
[10:44] <Jowi> !info eboard
[10:44] <ubotu> eboard: A graphical chessboard program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-6.1 (edgy), package size 470 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[10:44] <vox754> !bittorrent
[10:44] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[10:44] <hrach> hallo does anybody knows what is with feisty beta release?
[10:44] <sanityx> Why the hell did ubuntu install 2.6.17-11 headers but leave the 2.6.17-10 kernel
[10:44] <bruenig> mon^rch, Note that the filesystem mount options will remain the same as those on the original mount point, and cannot be changed by passing the -o option along with --bind/--rbind.
[10:44] <ethernomad> !info bittorrent
[10:44] <sanityx> that makes no sense
[10:45] <bruenig> mon^rch, says man page
[10:45] <vox754> !azureus
[10:45] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[10:45] <Jowi> matt_____, you have a full list of clients here : http://www.freechess.org/cgi-bin/Download/FICS_Download_Interface.cgi
[10:46] <mon^rch> bruenig: TYVM!!! now, have any suggestions?
[10:46] <laptop> LIST of changes for 7.04????
[10:46] <bruenig> mon^rch, change the original mount points permissions?
[10:46] <shal3r> how to generate "/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key" on ubuntu?
[10:47] <massctrl> caguego_ hmm yeah, although i'm using the realvnc enterprise version, which is quite nice,
[10:47] <mon^rch> then "I" wouldnt be able to write to the drive
[10:47] <chamberlain> quit
[10:47] <bruenig> mon^rch, you could write as root
[10:47] <dylock> i think im giving up on this sound thing
[10:47] <jrib> kristjan_: it's a wiki, fix it up and help the next person
[10:47] <bruenig> I think
[10:48] <Jowi> shal3r, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH#head-c75dd80e5ac25de9a474a07f302befe9f412460b
[10:48] <mon^rch> hmmm...
[10:48] <kristjan_> jrib: I'm afraid I do not posess enough technical knowledge to change anything there
[10:48] <mon^rch> I will consider that, actually. but I'm not thrilled
[10:48] <bruenig> mon^rch, or just chmod 644 it and then the owner can write to it
[10:48] <bruenig> mon^rch, but nobody else can
[10:48] <rinanir> how can i access windows computers on network? using samba? nautilus?
[10:49] <dylock> rinanir: samba
[10:49] <mon^rch> bruenig: think that'll work with the ntfs-3g driver?
[10:49] <n33o> hi can anyone help
[10:49] <rinanir> dylock: should i mount the shared folder to linux
[10:49] <eitch0000> hi guys, can anyone tell me if there is a special kernel I need to use for my amd dual-core?
[10:49] <massctrl> caguego_ i disable the loginmanager, and start the vncx server with my user account, and let the vncserver handle the authentication, it accepts built in authentication, unix login&pwd and nis
[10:49] <laptop> ANYONE have trouble using LINE-IN?
[10:49] <n33o> http://www.sunsway.com.hk/photo/tv-fm.jpg I need to get this working on my system
[10:49] <laptop> To record?
[10:50] <RoundyT1> what does this mean -- ---------> 3720 pts/0 S+   0:00 grep mysql <-----------
[10:50] <bruenig> mon^rch, your main problem here is using stupid ntfs
[10:50] <n33o> has software for xp
[10:50] <Drathorin> Hello there Ubuntu Room. :) Could someone direct me to where You get help regarding wacom tablets (I've been trying to search the forums with no real avail)
[10:50] <rowland>  /join #exaile
[10:50] <dylock> rinanir: i dont think you should have to mount it
[10:50] <bruenig> mon^rch, because you have to mount the whole drive under the same permissions
[10:50] <n33o> but struggling with ubuntu
[10:50] <rinanir> dylock: what should i do?
[10:50] <dylock> rinanir: you should be able to access it through the 'network' part of nautilus
[10:50] <phr0z3n> n33o, what do you need help with?
[10:50] <RoundyT1> what does this mean -- ---------> 3720 pts/0 S+   0:00 grep mysql <-----------
[10:50] <n33o> basically
[10:50] <rowland> synic:  Everything is now good, cheers!
[10:50] <AmaroqWolf> Pollywog: dangit. xD I can't test now because my mom's boyfriend, who was using the computer, shut it off.
[10:50] <n33o> im trying to get it working with TVTIME
[10:50] <Xif> how do I update a specific package?
[10:50] <n33o> but it shows blank screen
[10:50] <laptop> Line-In?
[10:51] <bruenig> mon^rch, so you could umask=0133 the whole drive, and then make sure you own it, but then everything on that drive will have those permissions
[10:51] <Xif> (with apt)
[10:51] <Drathorin>  /join #exaile
[10:51] <n33o> I found this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311756
[10:51] <n33o> but not sure how to do what it is telling me .
[10:51] <eitch0000> what kernel do I need to use for dual cores?
[10:51] <tbuss> can I install a RTL 8185L chipset wifi card using linux-restricted-modules?
[10:51] <cliebow> RoundyT1, look me up in 3ltsp if you have probs
[10:51] <eitch0000> in feisty that is
[10:51] <hoarycripple> Drathorin, http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/ for general info.  my wacom graphire works "out of the box" with dapper as long as xorg is configured properly
[10:52] <kristjan_> jrib: one more question please - does this look normal (as in - is it applied now) http://hashbin.com/315.html
[10:52] <chamberlain> hello
[10:52] <Drathorin> hoarycripple - I have 6.10, but I can't gimp to see it, and it doesn't function dquite properly, I'll go look though
[10:52] <Jowi> eitch0000, feisty support is in #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <mon^rch> bruenig: fun stuff isnt it...
[10:52] <sabotai> Modprobe Conf ---------------------------------------------
[10:52] <sabotai> Warning: module config file does not exist
[10:52] <sabotai> This means any kernel modules will not be auto loaded
[10:52] <sabotai> can anyone tell me how i can fix this?
[10:52] <jrib> kristjan_: it wasn't able to patch everything, look at the "failed" output
[10:52] <ethernomad> ha, thats pretty cool...bittorrent is integrated.  just download a torrent file and btdownloader does the rest!
[10:52] <bruenig> mon^rch, inferior fs do that
[10:52] <rinanir> samba
[10:53] <hoarycripple> Drathorin, are you using evdev?
[10:53] <kristjan_> jrib: ok, what I'm supposed to do now?
[10:53] <bruenig> ethernomad, yeah, if you don't really have much need for a decent client, works great
[10:53] <RoundyT1> !samba
[10:53] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:53] <ethernomad> oh boy...thats really slow...
[10:54] <jrib> kristjan_: ideally you would look at the patch and the file that failed to get patched and see if it matters.  You would need to understand what the patch does to do this
[10:54] <mtholdenss> hey anyone here know how to rip audio from a .ogg to a mp3 format?
[10:54] <kristjan_> jrib: how come your patch worked then?
[10:54] <mon^rch> bruenig: I will most likely install an ext3 500gb drive (for my b-day) and have it mounted as /home ... then all will be well. Do you know if the ext2/3 driver for windows is r/w?
[10:54] <bruenig> !info soundconverter | mtholdenss
[10:54] <RoundyT1> What do i use to VPN into a network via Ubuntu?
[10:54] <ubotu> mtholdenss: soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 300 kB
[10:54] <jrib> kristjan_: mine failed in that spot too
[10:54] <bruenig> mon^rch, it is, fs-driver.org
[10:55] <RoundyT1> What do i use to VPN into a network via Ubuntu?
[10:55] <laptop> Which is the fastest type NTFS or EXT3??
[10:55] <mon^rch> bruenig: SWEET!!!
[10:55] <mtholdenss> bruenig, its a .ogg movie file would it still work?
[10:55] <l90bpm> RoundyT1, what was the difference between the two?
[10:55] <bruenig> mtholdenss, oh, ogg movie file
[10:55] <l90bpm> ssh and vnc?
[10:55] <laptop> ANYONE have trouble with LINE-IN audio??????
[10:55] <jrib> kristjan_: I've edited the wiki page, let me know if you feel it is still unclear
[10:55] <bruenig> mtholdenss, see I was confused by the ogg to mp3, no that wouldn't work then
[10:55] <kristjan_> jrib: so I got failure; is it significant failure or I should continue now with complinig kernel?
[10:55] <mon^rch> bruenig: tx for the time...
[10:55] <l90bpm> other than authenticity
[10:55] <chamberlain> laptop, whats the problem?
[10:55] <RoundyT1> l90bpm Difference between the 2 what?
[10:55] <buckweat420> My samba asks for a password in windows when i connect to a share but i just configured it in my ubuntu desktop and it didnt ask for a password?
[10:56] <LjL> laptop: why not ask (spam) in some more channels?
[10:56] <l90bpm> ssh and vnc
[10:56] <cliebow> l90bpm, use nx...
[10:56] <jrib> kristjan_: you can't know without reading the patch and understanding why it couldn't patch that file
[10:56] <LjL> !anyone > laptop    (laptop, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:56] <Ax3> anyone have a link for the changes included in fiesty fawn?
[10:56] <dylock> well sound is part of my user, so i know thats not the problem with my sound
[10:56] <l90bpm> I have managed to get vnc working..
[10:56] <l90bpm> what is nx?
[10:56] <bruenig> !feisty | Ax3
[10:56] <ubotu> Ax3: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:56] <RoundyT1> l90bpm: VNC is supposedly not as secure is all someone said.
[10:56] <zero88> why is my mplayer mozilla plugin play all glitchy???
[10:56] <dylock> ive been at this for 12 hours i need an easy button
[10:56] <mon^rch> Ax3 do a google for feisty list goals...
[10:56] <bruenig> zero88, shouldn't
[10:57] <mtholdenss> bruenig, yeah cause i got a wonderful .ogg movie file of a live perforce and would be great if i could just rip the audio from it to then put on my ipod...
[10:57] <cliebow> l90bpm, nomachine.com..it rocks
[10:57] <Ax3> mon^rch: ok cool
[10:57] <kristjan_> jrib: could you fix it or this takes too much time?
[10:57] <l90bpm> I'll check it out
[10:57] <Ax3> the website is hard to navigate
[10:57] <l90bpm> thanks cliebow
[10:57] <cliebow> RoundyT1, nx rocks!!!
[10:57] <Ax3> so much information
[10:57] <jrib> kristjan_: I'm afraid that is a bit over my head really, sorry
[10:57] <zero88> bruenig hmm, imgoing to restart firefox
[10:57] <bruenig> mtholdenss, I am sure there is a way to do it with mencoder, but I am not sure of the exact command
[10:57] <RoundyT1> where do i get that?
[10:57] <mtholdenss> ok thanks!
[10:57] <jrib> kristjan_: make sure you have the right kernel version
[10:58] <RoundyT1> !nx
[10:58] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:58] <buckweat420> My samba asks for a password in windows when i connect to a share but i just configured it in my ubuntu desktop and it didnt ask for a password?
[10:58] <buckweat420> what do i do to fix that?
[10:58] <Ax3> ?def Ax3
[10:58] <kristjan_> jrib: I see. I need rc2-2.6.20-rc2 kernel I guess?
[10:58] <Ax3> aww :(
[10:58] <jrib> kristjan_: why do you need this patch?
[10:58] <dylock> holy crap! its a miracle
[10:59] <zero88> ya still really glitchy
[10:59] <dylock> i used mpd+mpc to change my volume and suddenly sound works!
[10:59] <kristjan_> jrib: I wan't to see If I can get 1280x800 boot screen
[10:59] <jrib> kristjan_: why didn't you ask *that* question :)
[10:59] <sabotai> can ne1 tell me how to create module config file
[10:59] <laptop> chamberlain it works in XP, not in VIsta or  Ubuntu
[11:00] <chamberlain> laptop: but whats the actual problem?  are you not getting sound, low volume?
[11:00] <kristjan_> jrib: well, I have done some reading and as far as I can tell only vesafb-tng patch will let me use 1280x800 kernel framebuffer
[11:00] <n33o> anyone ?
[11:00] <jrib> kristjan_: oh I see
[11:00] <n33o> http://www.sunsway.com.hk/photo/tv-fm.jpg
[11:01] <laptop> chamberlain: no sound, cant record
[11:01] <n33o> need help to get it workng
[11:01] <gahan> how do i make alsa's master channel to become also a master for headphone channel? ie if i change master channel setting it would also affect headphones :)
[11:01] <RoundyT1> cliebow: what's 3ltsp?
[11:01] <chamberlain> laptop: lspci, is your card detected?
[11:01] <guard> Greetings
[11:01] <kristjan_> jrib: vesafb, that ubuntu uses can only give you 4:3 aspect ratios
[11:01] <RoundyT1> cliebow: what's 3ltsp?
[11:02] <kristjan_> jrib: where does one download 2.6.20-rc2 kernel?
[11:02] <pally> howto set which version of java am I using in ubuntu?
[11:02] <pally> alternative?
[11:02] <stuporglue> I can't write anything to disk, except as super user -- not even to /tmp: any ideas?
[11:02] <jrib> !multijava | pally
[11:02] <ubotu> pally: To set which java version/implementation is to be used as default, use sudo update-java-alternatives
[11:02] <n33o> anyone?
[11:02] <laptop> PyroMessiah: 7:01]  <chamberlain> laptop: lspci, is your card detected?
[11:03] <pally> thanks ubotu
[11:03] <Ax3> is it just me...
[11:03] <pally> haha
[11:03] <laptop> chamberlain:  its actually pyromessiahs' i told him to come here
[11:03] <Ax3> or does ubuntu.com have a new look?
[11:03] <jrib> kristjan_: I don't know, that may just hava some gentoo-specific changes in it
[11:03] <l90bpm> I don't see how nomachine is different than vnc
[11:03] <chamberlain> laptop: pardon?
[11:03] <gbCerberus> Hi, I'm trying to burn the Feisty iso, I already did a checksum and the drive is working; I right click and select "Write to disk", the options are all good, but when I hit "Write" I get a popup telling me to insert a rewritable or blank disk, even though I have a blank disk in the drive
[11:03] <kristjan_> jrib: I can't see 2.6.20-rc2 here http://www.kernel.org/
[11:04] <laptop> chamberlain:  i was asking on behalf of pyro, so I told him to come here, he is here now.
[11:04] <laptop> PyroMessiah: ??
[11:04] <chamberlain> laptop: oh ok
[11:04] <RoundyT1> how do i install FreeNX
[11:04] <PyroMessiah> yes
[11:04] <RoundyT1> !freenx
[11:04] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:04] <bahatpc> I'm trying to install ubuntu using an USB stick, following the directions in the install guide. I get to the installation menu, but the ISO detection step fails although I copied ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso onto the USB stick. Can anybody tell me what I might be doing wrong?
[11:04] <cliebow> apt-get install freenx
[11:04] <guard> Looking for a distro suggestion: Running on old hardware (i386), using the box for router/firewall, proxy, light IDS. Need to run some form of VNC to admin it. Any distro better than others for old hardware
[11:04] <laptop> PyroMessiah: 7:01]  <chamberlain> laptop: lspci, is your card detected?
[11:04] <jrib> kristjan_: maybe you should try using the git repository for ubuntu's kernel first?
[11:04] <mon^rch> For those who like the looks of vista: excellent work!!!!--->http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/LiNsta+3+%28Linux+is+Not+Vista%29?content=44570
[11:04] <PyroMessiah> No card...on board audio
[11:04] <l90bpm> same features, same protocol
[11:05] <PyroMessiah> I try to record from line-in and there is no sound whatsoever
[11:05] <l90bpm> same thing
[11:05] <PyroMessiah> Only works in Xp
[11:05] <chamberlain> ok, have you made sure the connections and cords are all correctly setup?
[11:05] <laptop> PyroMessiah:  use his name there are like over a thousand people in here
[11:05] <PyroMessiah> yes
[11:05] <PyroMessiah> chamberlain: yes
[11:05] <RoundyT1> -----Can someone explain how to install FreeNX to a server?!
[11:05] <laptop> chamberlain:  thanks, gotta run
[11:05] <laptop> bye PyroMessiah
[11:06] <PyroMessiah> chamberlain: I'm not on ubuntu now, not even installed, had to go back to xp because I *have* to be able to record from line-in
[11:06] <suoylimys> hey guys, can you tell me what's wrong? i installed ubuntu today, i rebooted, and then.. it said "GRUB loading, please wait..." and after that simply "Error 17.". what's the problem? i have windows xp installed too
[11:06] <chamberlain> pyromessiah: are you getting sound at all? ie, linein, headphone, microphone?
[11:06] <cliebow> RoundyT1, sudo apt-get  install freenx
[11:06] <l90bpm> ah' this may be the difference:  NX security is guaranteed at every layer involved in the communication process. NX uses SSH/SSL v3 industry-standard public-key encryption and 128 bit volatile random cookie generation.
[11:06] <guard> suoylimys: Google turn up nothing for Grub and error 17?
[11:06] <cliebow> ohhh..i forgot
[11:06] <PyroMessiah> chambrlain: Nothing from line-in or mic
[11:07] <cliebow> RoundyT1, i cant help you in here
[11:07] <RoundyT1> cliebow tried that via ssh'ed connection....doesnt work
[11:07] <backz> Hi, how I list what resolutions my xorg supports?
[11:07] <RoundyT1> cliebow i join 3ltsp
[11:07] <suoylimys> guard: i've read that, but the answer was in such a mysterious language that i didn't understand it
[11:07] <RoundyT1> cliebow i joined 3ltsp
[11:08] <chamberlain> hmm, could you go to the sound config dialog and make sure you dont have it muted?
[11:08] <Jowi> PyroMessiah, have you ran alsamixer to see if the line/mic isn't muted?
[11:08] <PyroMessiah> chamberlain: yeah, it's vexing.  I've done all that....it's not muted.  I've even turned it all the way up, still no sound
[11:08] <Trixsey> What does Ubuntu have that Debian doesn't?
[11:09] <cliebow> Rou
[11:09] <mon^rch> Trixsey: popularity...
[11:09] <Trixsey> other than that? :P
[11:09] <chamberlain> pyromessiah: could you google it, perhaps your device isnt supported
[11:09] <l90bpm> Trixsey, this community
[11:09] <chamberlain> thats all i can think of
[11:09] <RoundyT1> cliebow I joined 3ltsp....where are you?
[11:09] <Jowi> PyroMessiah, try it in alsamixer. the volume can be turned all the way up but still be "off" (press "m" key in alsamixer to toggle the on/off state)
[11:09] <Trixsey> l90bpm, software wise?
[11:09] <cliebow> RoundyT1, #ltsp
[11:09] <rygar> hi--im new to linux/ubuntu.  i had a question about which release to install...  i wanted to install the server edition because i want LAMP, which i currently run on XP, and dns servers.  but, mainly i will only be using the server for my own use and testing.  i have heard the server edition does not come with a desktop environment.  is it better/easier to get the server edition and install gnome, or the desktop edition and install apache/mysq
[11:09] <RoundyT1> omg
[11:09] <PyroMessiah> chamberlain:  it's just on board audio....the audio works for mp3s and everything else....
[11:10] <l90bpm> that I do not know
[11:10] <hipitihop> Can someone please advise, I have a non critical Edgy install, can I upgrade to the new Feisty beta or should I do a clean install
[11:10] <l90bpm> I couldn't get debian to install..
[11:10] <l90bpm> never got a gui
[11:10] <MaximusBrood> I want to start a script one minute after Ubuntu has fully loaded. How would I do this exactly?
[11:10] <Enselic> hipitihop: for noncritical, go for an updgrade
[11:10] <suoylimys> can anyone help me?
[11:10] <Jowi> rygar, server + lamp is easier. the graphical desktop is easy to install afterwards.
[11:10] <hylje> hipitihop: i recall just changing sources.list to point at feisty and dist-upgrading
[11:10] <Trixsey> rygar, I'd go with the desktop install (specially since you are new to linux, unless you have unix knowledge)
[11:10] <chamberlain> pyromessiah: is i t a certain application that cant do audio, you said mp3s work
[11:10] <Trixsey> :P
[11:11] <jrib> rygar: easier to install server and then get GNOME imo since the server install will let you setup LAMP automagically.  To get the standard ubuntu stuff all you do is install the ubuntu-desktop package then:  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <Enselic> suoylimys: did you ask your question?
[11:11] <suoylimys> Enselic:  i did :D
[11:11] <mon^rch> Trixsey: across the board software for linux is pretty much the same from distro to distro... you pick your distro for your own reasons, I guess. Although I doo agree with the support comment...
[11:11] <suoylimys> hey guys, can you tell me what's wrong? i installed ubuntu today, i rebooted, and then.. it said "GRUB loading, please wait..." and after that simply "Error 17.". what's the problem? i have windows xp installed too
[11:11] <roflcar> 9882cs28hihasdf
[11:11] <Trixsey> mon^rch, Debian is pretty much a light-weight Ubuntu?
[11:11] <hipitihop> Enselic, hybrid , thanks, will this complicate things once I want to upgrade to final release next month ?
[11:11] <guard> suoylimsys: Looks like your Grub got fubar so you have to set it up using a live CD
[11:11] <Ireclan> Can someone tell me what this command does?
[11:12] <Ireclan> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[11:12] <Ireclan> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[11:12] <suoylimys> guard:  how can i do that?
[11:12] <mon^rch> Trixsey: I wouldn't know never used it :)
[11:12] <Enselic> hipitihop: well, it is a beta ;) but no, there should be no problems
[11:12] <jrib> Ireclan: the first one downoads the file and the second one installs it
[11:12] <Ireclan> OK.
[11:12] <PyroMessiah> chamberlain: it's any application for recording....the deal is that I have tapes from my father in law's college professor...lectures and such...he wants them recorded to mp3, so I go from the mic jack on the stereo to the line-in on the comp to record....but it doesn't pick up the sound in ubuntu...it makes me nuts because now I have to stick with windows even though I hate it...there are a LOT of these tapes...a very long project
[11:12] <Ax3> hey guys, where do software configs go if you use apt-get ?
[11:12] <Jowi> rygar, for example, see here on how to install on a low mem system (not using gnome/kde but it still applies: replace xubuntu-desktop with ubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop)
[11:12] <Jowi> rygar, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[11:12] <Ax3> i found a tar.gz, but someone suggested i install the software i wanted using apt-get....
[11:12] <Ax3> but i can't find teh config now for the program
[11:13] <Ax3> the*
[11:13] <Enselic> PyroMessiah: audacity is nice
[11:13] <Squillis> when an ntfs partition is autodetected and mounted from a fresh install of ubuntu, is it readonly?
[11:13] <hipitihop> Enselic, :-) beta warning noted. final question should I donwload the alternative iso or just change sources and dist-upgrade ?
[11:13] <guard> souylims: Get the ISO for the Live CD off the Ubuntu website burn it and boot with it. Follow the teps the guys in the Gentoo forum did to re-setup Grub
[11:13] <Squillis> i know of the dangers of writing to ntfs from linux
[11:13] <MaximusBrood> Suppose I have a script that runs an application: /usr/maximusbrood/startApp . How can I run this script one minute after Ubuntu has fully loaded?
[11:13] <mon^rch> Trixsey: all I can say is out of the about 5 distros Ive tried... this one is the nicest, and by far has the best support I have ever seen
[11:13] <l90bpm> Ax3, those can be a pain
[11:13] <chamberlain> pyromessiah: you could try another sound card if you have an extra
[11:13] <l90bpm> but you might have better luck than me
[11:13] <suoylimys> guard: okay, thanks
[11:13] <Ax3> l90bpm: yea in this case it was eggdrop software, apt-get install eggdrop - did the trick, but where IS IT? im new so this is frustrating
[11:13] <PyroMessiah> chamberlain: I don't....brb
[11:13] <Enselic> hipitihop: you have desktop and want alternative?
[11:13] <Jowi> rygar, but as Trixsey said, if you're totally new to linux the desktop version is probably what you want to test first of all.
[11:14] <Ireclan> Which of the following plug-ins do I not need if I don't have the Ogle or GXine players installed?
[11:14] <chamberlain> ok
[11:14] <Ireclan> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[11:14] <l90bpm> your guess is as good as mine, being that it was a compressed package
[11:14] <l90bpm> did you uncompress?
[11:15] <Enselic> !feisty
[11:15] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:15] <l90bpm> should have a "how to" inside
[11:15] <Ax3> yea... but i couldn't configure it
[11:15] <Jowi> Ireclan, xine and totem-xine uses libxine. totem uses gstreamer. ogle has its own thing going on i think.
[11:15] <l90bpm> even w/ that..  good luck
[11:15] <Ax3> problem with a "TCL" package....
[11:15] <Squillis> why doesn my double quote work on my thinkpad with us:intl layout?
[11:15] <hipitihop> Enselic, ?? I installed Edgy from a Desktop CD, I thought I need alternate for upgrade
[11:15] <Ax3> so i resorted to the apt-get.... but S.O.L there too heh....
[11:15] <PyroMessiah> chamberlain: back
[11:15] <Ireclan> OK. So I don't need those, right?
[11:15] <Squillis> or my single quote for that matter
[11:16] <l90bpm> browse your file system is all I would know to do..  or download again
[11:16] <Jowi> Ireclan, depends on which player you use. I prefer totem-xine and mplayer.
[11:16] <Jowi> !codecs | Ireclan
[11:16] <ubotu> Ireclan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:16] <mon^rch> ahem, I don't suppose there is a batch converter (mp3 - ogg) that will recursively do sub-dir's and then delete the original file, is there?
[11:16] <Enselic> hipitihop: oh, well no. 'alternative' is a variant, just like 'desktop' and 'server'
[11:16] <tuskernini> How do i connect to a OLSR network?
[11:17] <Ireclan> I'm already on that page, Jowi. I just have questions, that's all.
[11:17] <Enselic> hipitihop: so, if you have 'desktop', don't bother with any 'alternative' stuff
[11:17] <LjL> Alternate
[11:18] <Enselic> alternate*
[11:18] <LjL> but it's not really a variant like Server tbh
[11:18] <Enselic> no?
[11:18] <rygar> thanks!  if my computer is going through a wireless router, does will ubuntu server set up all the necessary connections so i can download the desktop environment?  or would it be wiser to install gnome from a cd?
[11:18] <Jowi> Ireclan, as I said... if you use a gstreamer based player you need gstreamer codecs. if you use a xine based player you need xine codecs.
[11:18] <Ireclan> Jowi: Ah.
[11:19] <Jowi> Ireclan, you can install them all. they are not conflicting with each other.
[11:19] <sanityx> I'm having a strange problem. I can't mount any cdroms. I can install ubuntu fine, and I've done so twice today, off cd, yet when I try to mount a cdrom it always says no media found
[11:19] <LjL> Enselic, well, Desktop and Alternate both install the same kernel (but then Alternate allows you some more choice wrt how many packages to install by default). Server has a different kernel by default
[11:19] <hipitihop> Enselic, oh my bad, must have picked up the wrong info back when upgrading from 5.10 to 6.06 or something...so should I download the Desktop ISO or go with dist-upgrade by changing sources ?
[11:19] <ninetailz> Hey
[11:19] <Jowi> Ireclan, you just need to know what the player is constucted for.
[11:20] <ninetailz> Im trying to install BitchX but i get configure: error: cannot find setupterm or tgetent
[11:20] <l90bpm> lol..  wtf is bitchx?
[11:20] <sanityx> 190bpm, irc client
[11:20] <Ireclan> Jowi: Okeydokey. One last question. When I run the command "wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb", where is it putting "w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb"?
[11:20] <charlesn1> l90bpm: a chat program for irc
[11:20] <l90bpm> sounds like my old girl
[11:21] <ninetailz> yea, so
[11:21] <mon^rch> it's neat to see all the dir-hard console users.... cmon' this is the age of the desktop :)
[11:21] <ninetailz> how do i fix that?
[11:21] <aoirthoir> howdy
[11:21] <l90bpm> I like Xchat myself
[11:21] <gaspipe1> hey people
[11:21] <sanityx> Any idea why I might not be able to mount any cdroms?
[11:21] <charlesn1> Ireclan: in whatever directory you are running the wget from
[11:21] <MaximusBrood> mon^rch: Still the console is far more powerfull
[11:21] <Enselic> hipitihop: there are more things that can go wrong on an upgrade, so if you want to be as safe as possible, go for the cd
[11:21] <aoirthoir> is there any way to prevent applications from opening maximized? (gettin tired of it)
[11:22] <mon^rch> MaximusBrood: ...for now
[11:22] <ninetailz> What packet do i need to install to get this tgetent?
[11:22] <ardchoille> aoirthoir: How did you get them all to open maximised? I would like to be able to do that.
[11:22] <Ireclan> I've thought of another question...
[11:22] <charlesn1> ninetailz: try doing apt-cache search tgetent
[11:23] <ninetailz> okay
[11:23] <charlesn1> or searching through add/remove
[11:23] <mon^rch> MaximusBrood: my desktop is pretty poweful, btw... I run some nice servers with heavy configuration options
[11:23] <charlesn1> heavy configuration options? what the heck does that mean?
[11:23] <mon^rch> ...but I still use the console
[11:23] <Ireclan> The system font that Ubuntu uses...How can I get it to use that on my OpenOffice.org documents?
[11:23] <KalleDK> Hey :D Anybody have something with Wine vs Cedega (I got a laptop with intel grapich)
[11:23] <MaximusBrood> I'm wondering how I can make normal applications run from system start, so I dont have to start them manually.
[11:24] <hipitihop> Enselic, to be sure 1. Download desktop ISO and boot from it 2. It will allow to upgrade my current Edgy ?
[11:24] <Squillis> what english keyboard layout doesn use dead keys?
[11:24] <KalleDK> MaximusBrood Under Sessions Session
[11:24] <Ireclan> I know the font is called "Sans", but I don't find a font by that name within OpenOffice.org.
[11:24] <aoirthoir> ardchoille: if I close a window when it is maximized..it opens maximized...running gnome. Even the devilspy...while it will adjust the size of non-maxmized windows..will still not prevent a window from opening maximized if it was set that way when clsoed
[11:25] <Enselic> hipitihop: nope, upgrading is done with an app, hang on Ill give you link
[11:25] <aoirthoir> Ireclan: sans means without..there is no sans font. There is for instance Sans Serif..which means a font without serifs..little feet off the font
[11:25] <ardchoille> aoirthoir: Seems your complain is with devilspie. Maybe contact the devs or file a bug report?
[11:25] <l90bpm> you can upgrade from command
[11:25] <l90bpm> that's all I did
[11:25] <mon^rch> yeah, MaximusBrood: system-->preferences-->sessions
[11:26] <aoirthoir> ardchoille: i only tried devilspy today just a little while ago. This behaviour of all of my windows opening maximised is constant (that is if they were maxmized when I closed them)
[11:26] <Ireclan> aoirthoir, what system font does Ubuntu use, then?
[11:26] <hipitihop> Enselic, one of the forums says just do: gksu "upgrade-manager -c -d"
[11:26] <ardchoille> aoirthoir: Ah, ok, the apps are saving prefs I guess.
[11:26] <aoirthoir> ardchoille: I was hoping gnome (or kde) had a setting to prevent that
[11:26] <aoirthoir> ardchoille: ah possibly..dont know how to override that.
[11:27] <mon^rch> btw what I meant by "heavy configuration" is the gui app has about as much flexibility as the console version
[11:27] <aoirthoir> Ireclan: dont know but it isnt sans...that would be no font
[11:27] <ardchoille> aoirthoir: In gnome on Dapper, if I close an app that is max'ed, it opens normal later.
[11:27] <t3soro> !resolution
[11:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:27] <louieb39> would you guys say 7.04 beta is worth the download (for a vm)?
[11:27] <l90bpm> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:27] <aoirthoir> ardchoille: running edgy myself...if I do it with say the terminal..it opens regular..firefox always opens max
[11:27] <Ireclan> Anyone else know what font Ubuntu uses, then?
[11:27] <Enselic> hipitihop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[11:28] <mon^rch> louieb39: if it's for a vm... what the heck have you got to lose? time?
[11:28] <aoirthoir> and gedit
[11:28] <l90bpm> might want to adjust your sources
[11:28] <louieb39> well bandwidth
[11:28] <hipitihop> Enselic, thanks reading...
[11:28] <ardchoille> Ireclan: The default font for almost everything in Dapper is "Sans"
[11:29] <LjL> ?!
[11:29] <Enselic> ardchoille: he mean the logo I suppose
[11:29] <rabideau> I'm trying to find a copy of Opera my version  6.10 of ubuntu does not list it
[11:29] <mon^rch> bandwidth, bah! bittorrent is prooly well seeded with the feisty iso. bet you get it in an hour
[11:30] <aoirthoir> ardchoille: it has to be sans something...sans means without
[11:30] <Enselic> aoirthoir: sans seirf
[11:30] <l90bpm> hour..   sheeeeeeeit..  bout ten minutes
[11:30] <ardchoille> aoirthoir: Nope, just sans: http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/3845/fontspz1.jpg
[11:30] <aoirthoir> rabideau:  you would have to activate the non-free repositories
[11:31] <mon^rch> l90bpm: I was being generous :)
[11:31] <rabideau> how do I activate the non-free repositories???
[11:31] <l90bpm> tranfer rate 600kb/sec
[11:31] <texagg01> I don't suppose anyone in here knows how I can get my hands on the TomTom Navigator 6 software do they?
[11:31] <aoirthoir> ardchoille: they have the name wrong then
[11:31] <louieb39> how about on a (home) production server, just to fool around? is it that stable?
[11:31] <s005> give me server or channel spanish for ubuntu please
[11:31] <aoirthoir> rabideau: http://www.ubuntuguide.org  look at the section on repositories
[11:31] <ardchoille> aoirthoir: That may be.
[11:31] <Jowi> rabideau, download it from http://www.opera.com
[11:31] <rabideau> thanks!
[11:31] <thejam> !font
[11:31] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:31] <Mirth> Anyone of you know if CrossOver is better than Wine?
[11:31] <aoirthoir> ardchoille: technically ubunut is without a font then:)
[11:31] <aoirthoir> Mirth: crossover IS wine
[11:31] <l90bpm> still say upgrading from command was the easiest thing I've done yet
[11:32] <louieb39> well it's wine with a gui
[11:32] <ubuntu> Cmo puedo aadir gcc a ubuntu ?
[11:32] <Mirth> It IS Wine?
[11:32] <Mirth> o_O
[11:32] <aoirthoir> mirth.. you can consider crossover as commercial support for wine with lots of settings already made
[11:32] <Mirth> Ah
[11:32] <Xenguy> Mirth: Crossover is a commercial WINE
[11:32] <Mirth> So it probably is better?
[11:32] <louieb39> I downloaded the source for crossover and it works very well
[11:32] <aoirthoir> Mirth:  just as there are different linux distributions..the same can be done with wine
[11:32] <Mirth> Ah
[11:32] <Agrajag> !es|ubuntu
[11:32] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:32] <louieb39> but it can't do anything wine can't do
[11:33] <louieb39> its just easier
[11:33] <l90bpm> like cedega is a proprietary wine for games
[11:33] <aoirthoir> Mirth: depends..if you know what you are doing and are willing to manage all the settings yourself go with wine..if you want hand holding use crossover
[11:33] <thejam> !<font>
[11:33] <ninetailz> Anyone here using Beryl?
[11:33] <louieb39> I am not a fan of cedega
[11:33] <aoirthoir> ninetailz: yup..but if you want support try #beryl
[11:33] <ninetailz> ok, thanks
[11:33] <l90bpm> yes ninetailz
[11:33] <ardchoille> ninetailz: Beryl support in #ubuntu-effects
[11:33] <l90bpm> didn't enable it this session,
[11:33] <aoirthoir> louieb39: yes..if wine wont run it...cedega or crossover wont either.
[11:33] <l90bpm> don't plan on browsing much
[11:34] <l90bpm> drinking a cold one/learning from you all
[11:34] <Mirth> I like hand holding!
[11:34] <louieb39> one thing I like about crossover is the fact it downloads fonts and whatnot for you...but I  would never pay for it
[11:35] <aoirthoir> Mirth: remember...crossover may have non-free components.
[11:35] <Lunar_Lamp> what's an easy way to get a real-time benchmark of CPU speed?
[11:35] <Mirth> Oh...
[11:35] <louieb39> well you can grab the source and just compile
[11:35] <aoirthoir> Mirth: also though..you might want to try to find free (as in speech) Gnu replacements for your windows software..I dont even use windows anymore
[11:35] <l90bpm> what are those gnome widgets called?  anyways.. those would work wouldn't they?
[11:36] <Mirth> Is there a good website editor for Ubuntu?
[11:36] <ardchoille> l90bpm: gdesklets?
[11:36] <Mirth> Kinda like Dreamweaver?
[11:36] <l90bpm> yep
[11:36] <aoirthoir> mirth HELLO
[11:36] <l90bpm> that's it
[11:36] <louieb39> lol my friend "NEEDED" ms office so I put virtualbox on her PC with reactOS
[11:36] <aoirthoir> mirth DOZENS... eclipse, bluefish...azuntu (or something like that)
[11:36] <Mirth> HELLO is a program, aoirthoir?
[11:36] <Mirth> Oh
[11:36] <aoirthoir> lol no mirth...remember linux was made for the net
[11:37] <Enselic> Mirth: I heard nvu is good
[11:37] <aoirthoir> nvu is great
[11:37] <Mirth> Hrm...
[11:37] <Mirth> I shall have to try that out.
[11:37] <Enselic> Mirth: apt-cache search html editor
[11:37] <aoirthoir> the graphics far excel doze right now
[11:37] <Enselic> Mirth: run that
[11:37] <Xenguy> Mirth: nvu is a WYSIWYG Dreamweaver wannabe
[11:37] <hipitihop> Enselic, thanks for your assist, starting upgrade
[11:37] <El-aLEX> -es
[11:37] <aoirthoir> Mirth: or run system menu, Administration, Synaptic
[11:37] <Enselic> hipitihop: np :)
[11:37] <aoirthoir> you will get a GUI for searching programs...
[11:37] <ardchoille> I'm not sure if it will suit your needs, but there is also: ooffice -web
[11:37] <louieb39> has anyone actually ran reactos? I think it's a great idea
[11:38] <Mirth> Sweet, I shall try NVU then
[11:38] <Seeker`> I have problems with a netgear WG311 network card. When I try to connect to a wireless WEP AP using networkmanager I sometimes get a Kernel Panic. When I dont get a kernel package i get "acx: BUG: no free txdesc left" message from dmesg
[11:38] <aoirthoir> louieb39: ive ran it..its pretty nice..not exactly for me though
[11:38] <louieb39> well me neither - but it will give MS a run for its money
[11:38] <louieb39> Ill take it over vista any day!
[11:38] <aoirthoir> aye
[11:38] <Commi> *shhh* You shouldn't use WEP ;)
[11:38] <aoirthoir> me too ...vista can eat my
[11:38] <aoirthoir> pop cans.
[11:38] <louieb39> amen
[11:39] <Seeker`> Commi: Doesn't seem to matter - I can connect so i cant send data over the connectnio :P
[11:39] <louieb39> reactos is a good 5 years late though
[11:39] <louieb39> too bad
[11:39] <Commi> Seeker: Was just joking :)
[11:40] <Seeker`> Commi: I guessed
[11:40] <l90bpm> WPA is better..
[11:40] <mag_> is it possible to change the provider of a domain name server ?
[11:40] <Commi> Well... it's more secure
[11:40] <Enselic> mag_: yeah, if you bought the domain from a decent reseller
[11:41] <Enselic> mag_: there should be no problems to change
[11:41] <aoirthoir> ok back
[11:41] <louieb39> wow I have never used IRC before - are all rooms this...friendly?
[11:41] <Seeker`> l90bpm: card doesn't support it it seems
[11:41] <l90bpm> oic
[11:41] <ardchoille> louieb39: No, this channel is above average :)
[11:41] <aoirthoir> louieb39: no..stay away from #PHP...
[11:41] <Enselic> louieb39: no, but this is Ubuntu :)
[11:41] <l90bpm> leave it open and share w/ the group
[11:41] <preaction> louieb39: no. it's proportional to the intelligence required to use the tool the channel is about
[11:41] <l90bpm> lol... just kidding
[11:41] <Commi> :D
[11:41] <mag_> Enselic, I bought a domain in dialtone EUA but I want to manage all in godady... because  dialtone is a bad company is it possible that ?
[11:41] <aoirthoir> louieb39: they HATE their choice of programming language (rightfully so) and it shows in their demeaner
[11:41] <Commi> Uh uh
[11:42] <Enselic> mag_: godaddy is bad too :/
[11:42] <Enselic> mag_: Im not sure you own the domain, I think they do
[11:42] <preaction> louieb39: for example, any brain-dead monkey with a typewriter can program PHP, so they're the meanest
[11:42] <Enselic> mag_: they've sucked in the past at least
[11:42] <Commi> I see the beginning of a discussion about PHP ;)
[11:42] <mag_> Enselic, really ? what company do you sugest me ?
[11:42] <greig_> hi all, do you know if the new ubuntu will a great deal different
[11:42] <preaction> !offtopic | php is
[11:42] <ubotu> php is: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:42] <louieb39> understood. I think Ill be hanging here frequently
[11:42] <aoirthoir> mag go to http://www.dreamhost.com/ they are who i use..really nice bunch of folks..employee owned
[11:42] <Enselic> mag_: I personally use scan-host.com, hand have done for quite some time
[11:42] <sediento> hello
[11:42] <ardchoille> !ot
[11:43] <Mirth> Sorry, another program question
[11:43] <sediento> can u helpme with xchat please?
[11:43] <Enselic> mag_: it looks like a fraud site, but its fine :)
[11:43] <Mirth> Anyone know of any professional Music Editing programs for Ubuntu?
[11:43] <Mirth> Like Cakewalk for Windows, or Digital Performer for mac?
[11:43] <ardchoille> Mirth: A lot of folks say rosegarden is good
[11:43] <Enselic> mag_: there was no roblems with letting my webhotel take over the nameserver of the domain
[11:43] <Mirth> Rosegarden...
[11:43] <Mirth> I'll have to check that out.
[11:43] <ardchoille> !rosegarden
[11:43] <mag_> Enselic, lol yes it looks jaja ok I'll see !
[11:43] <mag_> thank's
[11:44] <ubotu> rosegarden: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.2.4-1 (edgy), package size 3244 kB, installed size 7768 kB
[11:44] <l90bpm> can't gaurantee I can help w/ xchat but I have mine up and running
[11:44] <l90bpm> what is wrong?
[11:44] <Mirth> Ah, very nice, does Midi too
[11:44] <guard> Question regarding alternative install. It is meant to help run older systems but is it missing anything else that make it different than a regualr install?
[11:44] <Mirth> Thanks ardchoille
[11:44] <ardchoille> Mirth: You're welcome :)
[11:44] <ubuntu> hi
[11:44] <guard> Hello
[11:44] <louieb39> alternative basically is a text install disk to my knowledge
[11:45] <Enselic> mag_: I only use ther domain service though, I dont know anything about there hosting services
[11:45] <louieb39> so it doenst suck up ram while installing
[11:45] <Enselic> mag_: my site is hosted by hemsida.net
[11:45] <Enselic> mag_: swedish site
[11:45] <mag_> Enselic, mmm ok for hosting I have no problem, but the problem is a domain name
[11:45] <ubuntu> i can not open file .rar
[11:45] <guard> But it should have a complete system that allows you to build from source and such right?
[11:45] <l90bpm> rar is in synaptic
[11:45] <louieb39> apt-get install rar
[11:45] <Enselic> mag_: then I recomend scan-host.com a try, they are not expensive
[11:45] <l90bpm> or even better
[11:46] <mag_> Enselic, ok thank's !
[11:46] <mag_> :)
[11:46] <Enselic> mag_: I've had them from ~4 years
[11:46] <aoirthoir> preaction: you definitely hit it on the head with php..it is the worst language ever written
[11:46] <l90bpm> louieb39's suggestion
[11:46] <aoirthoir> actually
[11:46] <OuZo> hi, i looking at my dmesg output & i dont understand a few things.. what is "Aperture from northbridge cpu 0 too small (32 MB)"? thanks
[11:46] <aoirthoir> sudo apt-get install rar
[11:46] <Enselic> mag_: and recently bought for another 5 years :)
[11:46] <Safe_> anyone who has some links to websites dedicated to customizing the desktop?
[11:46] <aoirthoir> OuZo: i get that too
[11:46] <Enselic> Safe_: gnome-looks.org
[11:46] <aoirthoir> safe http://www.beryl-project.org
[11:47] <l90bpm> deviant art
[11:47] <OuZo> aoirthoir: do you know what that means & if it is a bad thing?
[11:47] <aoirthoir> ooo deviant art....gurgle
[11:47] <Enselic> Safe_: gnome-look.org I mean
[11:47] <l90bpm> slow, but love deviant
[11:47] <preaction> OuZo: sounds like your hardware is reporting something it's not capable of. also sounds like you're being a hardware hypochondriac
[11:47] <aoirthoir> OuZo: i dont know what it means but I dont think it is a bad thing.>I get it all the time.
[11:47] <Enselic> Safe_: gnome-looks sucked
[11:47] <Safe_> i have looked through nearly all the skins etc on those sites
[11:47] <Safe_> looking for something a little "more extreme"
[11:48] <Safe_> like little useless programs or something
[11:48] <aoirthoir> OuZo: northbridge is just a part of the PC-BUS.. a way the motherboard communicates with components..that much I know
[11:48] <guard> Did an Alternative install of Xubuntu and many things seem broken. Not able to build via configure and make and most debs are not avaliable to install
[11:48] <aoirthoir> safe...trust me http://beryl-project.org/
[11:48] <louieb39> wow I wish I could get some volunteer time for helping in a chat
[11:48] <l90bpm> it's hard to get that look just right
[11:48] <l90bpm> I'm never satisfied
[11:48] <Enselic> guard: sudo apt-get install build-essential to be able to build
[11:48] <aoirthoir> guard try the regular install...then use apt-get to get whatever you want
[11:48] <Sonic_23> Wie installiert man skype unter ubuntu???
[11:48] <Safe_> aoirthoir, its kinda hard to set it up on my system
[11:48] <ubuntu> #lublin
[11:49] <greig_> hi all, ive just booted ubuntu up after 1 day down time and i did have 2 ntfs partions shown, however now they are not there, any ideas where they gone and how to retrieve them
[11:49] <Enselic> !de | Sonic_23
[11:49] <ubotu> Sonic_23: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:49] <Commi> Sonic_23: Pscht, auf englisch ;)
[11:49] <aoirthoir> louieb39: I wish I could get a nice girlfriend instead of a mean one...
[11:49] <aoirthoir> :D
[11:49] <pimpmaster> Hey guys.. Im trying to set up a "mate" command to open my config file swith textmate instead of nano... any pointers?
[11:49] <louieb39> hahah
[11:49] <l90bpm> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s02.html
[11:49] <jrib> pimpmaster: set up an alias
[11:49] <l90bpm> that will help w/ partitions   https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s02.html
[11:49] <Clint__> I'm using a laptop with Intel GMA 900 graphics, will beryl work at 1024x768? I'm also wondering if I should install edgy or the feisty beta..
[11:50] <Enselic> pimpmaster: Im not sure what you want?
[11:50] <pimpmaster> jrib, pardon my noobness but i dont know how
[11:50] <ardchoille> pimpmaster: is textmate a cli editor?
[11:50] <jrib> pimpmaster: what's the command to open textmate?
[11:50] <pimpmaster> textmate is a standard text editor... I can edit the config files on my Mac
[11:50] <l90bpm> some ppl have sybil-syndrome
[11:50] <pimpmaster> in unix I open files using the "mate" command
[11:51] <aoirthoir> Clint__: as far as beryl try #beryl ..as far as edgy vs fiesty... it depends on how far on the edge you want to be..but fiesty willbe out of beta on the 19th..i'd personally wait until then if you have no experience with Gnu before trying a beta
[11:51] <aoirthoir> pimpmaster: are you wanting a graphical editor or a command line one?
[11:51] <slashjamiec> pipmaster: gedit
[11:52] <louieb39> wow I use vim for everything
[11:52] <jrib> !info mateedit
[11:52] <ubotu> mateedit: collaborative editor for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 124 kB, installed size 444 kB
[11:52] <pimpmaster> aoirthoir im not sure the difference.. but textmate is a pretty standard text editor that works well with unix config
[11:52] <aoirthoir> pimpmaster: if you want a graphical editor try gedit from your applications/accessories menu. If you want you can install another one like kate
[11:52] <jrib> I'm guessing this is it?
[11:52] <slashjamiec> !info gedit
[11:52] <l90bpm> I would like to have a command line indexing widget if there is such a thing
[11:52] <ubotu> gedit: light-weight text editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 689 kB, installed size 2496 kB
[11:52] <ompaul> louieb39, how does it cope with IRC?
[11:52] <greig_> does the command 'ntfsfix' require any other command line to it ??
[11:52] <Clint__> aoirthoir well I've never used linux on this laptop, but I've used it on my desktop several times before.. I'm going to just try edgy, and this laptop is supported with wireless and graphics with novell linux as well as RHEL, so I'm assuming it'll work fine with ubuntu
[11:52] <aoirthoir> pimpmaster: the difference is that a console editor looks like a dos program..a graphical one looks like a windows or standard Mac program
[11:52] <pimpmaster> BTW, I am doing this all through SSH
[11:52] <gda_> someone has running k9copy on feisty fawn?
[11:52] <Safe_> i would like to have something like www.pimpmydesk.org but for linux
[11:53] <louieb39> I am having so much fun because I can actually help people. I have only been using GNU for maybe a year so far
[11:53] <ardchoille> pimpmaster: Assuming "mate" is a cli editor:  echo "export EDITOR=mate" >> ~/.bashrc
[11:53] <pimpmaster> aoirthoir, it is a graphical editor then
[11:53] <Darth_Simpson> Hey guys. Short question - can I install (Ubuntu) liblame-dev if I don't have root access? That is, can I install it in $HOME ?
[11:53] <louieb39> -but I have broken my system so many times that I have been in half these situations
[11:53] <tri> can someone help, my nic driver does not load NVIDIA nForce MCP networking adapter
[11:53] <pimpmaster> ahh, so you just append a string to that file
[11:53] <OuZo> anybody know were the out put of dmesg is explained? thanks
[11:53] <aoirthoir> Clint__: most likely..go with edgy..also go to ubuntuguide.org and get network-manager (follow that instructions) and your wireless should be fine
[11:53] <tri> on a biostar http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=M7NCG%20400
[11:53] <aoirthoir> pimpmaster: yes go to the console and type gksudo gedit filname
[11:54] <aoirthoir> pimpmaster: if you are trying to change files that require root permission
[11:54] <aoirthoir> louieb39: me too man
[11:54] <CharlieSu> could anyone tell me if this feature is in Feisty's beta?? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/39326
[11:54] <aoirthoir> Darth_Simpson: not from the repos..you could certainly unpack it there
[11:55] <phin> whats the name of the ubuntu beryl channel?
[11:55] <louieb39> aoirthoir: I convinced my high school to put pclinuxos on 2 of their PCs. the kids LOVE it
[11:55] <jrib> phin: #ubuntu-effects
[11:55] <phin> jrib: thanks
[11:55] <aoirthoir> louieb39: shada you face you!
[11:55] <aoirthoir> :D
[11:55] <l90bpm> here's evil ubuntu   http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/
[11:55] <mike1o> Shareaza for linux??
[11:55] <mike1o> !Shareaza
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shareaza - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <tri> !nic
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <Darth_Simpson> aoirthoir: Well, I have downloaded liblame-dev to $HOME, however I'd like to unpack it too. Is that at all possible without root access?
[11:56] <greig_> !ntfsfix
[11:56] <aoirthoir> CharlieSu: actually the latest version will have encryption in it
[11:56] <mike1o> do u think it would be possible to recompile the Shareaza source code for linux?
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <aoirthoir> darth you can unpack anything you want
[11:56] <gop> hmm
[11:56] <gop> why did software update ask me to upgrade distro
[11:56] <aoirthoir> Darth_Simpson: but it wont install to the /var /lib /etc and so on without root access
[11:56] <gop> I have edgy
[11:56] <Ireclan> Does anyone know the name of the font which Ubuntu uses?
[11:57] <gop> does it automatlcailly ask to upgrade
[11:57] <jrib> gop: how did you run it?
[11:57] <aoirthoir> Ireclan: aparently it is ineed sans..someone named it wrong
[11:57] <gop> to fiesty beta
[11:57] <ardchoille> Ireclan: The default font is "Sans"
[11:57] <gop> from the warning sign on top
[11:57] <CharlieSu> aoirthoir: built into the live CD?  do you have any documentation for this?
[11:57] <gop> jrib,  it ask me as soon I booted up
[11:57] <gop> in to gnome desktop
[11:57] <ninetailz> Is there any programs like Yakuake for Gnome?
[11:57] <gop> the organe warning sign
[11:57] <ninetailz> And that launcher program for KDE
[11:57] <Darth_Simpson> aoirthoir: Which would basically make the entire package useless? There's no way of setenv:ing local variables that will allow configure-scripts to find my personal unpacked dev-files?
[11:58] <greig_> can someone advise me how to do the following please ..........................   Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux unless you have Vista, then mount NTFS with
[11:58] <greig_>    the 'force' option read-write, or with the 'ro' option read-only.
[11:58] <tri> can someone help, my nic driver does not load NVIDIA nForce MCP networking adapter on a biostar M7NCG 400
[11:58] <Ireclan> aoirthoir: any idea where I might find it? I wish to type my documents in it...
[11:58] <Xenguy> l90bpm: hah - pretty funny
[11:58] <Enselic> !fstab | greig_
[11:58] <ubotu> greig_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:58] <l90bpm> you like that?
[11:58] <gesus> hello :)
[11:58] <kosnick> at the panel when i open windows of the same application they are collected under one button , can i change that?
[11:58] <ardchoille> Ireclan: System -> Preferences -> Font  ?
[11:59] <l90bpm> not in to satanism myself.. but I'm still one for the darker stuff
[11:59] <gesus> where can i change the default language settings so my dates in openoffice are displayed as day/month/year instead of the stupid US way?
[11:59] <l90bpm> like the splash screens anyway
[11:59] <Xenguy> l90bpm: I think it is funny, not a satanist myself currently
[11:59] <ninetailz> Is there any program like yakuake for Gnome=
[11:59] <gop> it askingi to upgrade to 6.10 but I am running 6.10
[12:00] <louieb39> ninetailz tilda
[12:00] <louieb39> its called tilda
[12:00] <slashjamiec> !tilda
[12:00] <ardchoille> kosnick: Yes, you can. Right click the biginning of the taskbar and choose Preferences. There is a place in there to uncheck "Group windows"
[12:00] <ubotu> tilda: Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 32 kB, installed size 148 kB
[12:00] <ninetailz> Thanks
[12:00] <Safe_> aw man, an easy way to install .ttf?
[12:00] <ninetailz> :)
[12:00] <aoirthoir> CharlieSu: as to your question..not sure if it is built into the live cd...I have no documentation I was merely reading this from the plans website...it might or might not make it into the actual release
[12:00] <Mirth> Another retarded question....
[12:00] <jrib> !fonts > Safe_    (Safe_, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:00] <Mirth> I have.