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| adamant1988 | jenda: You here? | 12:28 |
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| adamant1988 | Well, whoever does the website might want to fix the giant brown typo | 12:29 |
| adamant1988 | http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/webforums | 12:29 |
| adamant1988 | "Web fourms" | 12:29 |
| Burgwork | adamant1988: file a bug | 12:34 |
| Burgwork | unforunately, community edit access has since the changeove | 12:34 |
| MenZa | Isn't that just a...anyone-can-use-and-edit Wiki? | 12:34 |
| MenZa | :P | 12:34 |
| MenZa | :o | 12:34 |
| Burgwork | used to be | 12:34 |
| Burgwork | now is drupal | 12:34 |
| === MenZa splutters | ||
| MenZa | DRUPAL+ | 12:35 |
| MenZa | The old wiki was bad enough. | 12:35 |
| === MenZa really wants MediaWiki :( | ||
| adamant1988 | Anywho... it just needs fixed... I'll go file a bug in a few | 12:35 |
| Burgwork | mediawiki is php and has security issues | 12:36 |
| MenZa | YOU have security issues! | 12:36 |
| === MenZa just thought the old wiki was horrible to edit. | ||
| Burgwork | wiki.ubuntu.com is still a wiki | 12:37 |
| Burgwork | www.ubuntu.com is now drupal | 12:37 |
| MenZa | I like the new website. | 12:37 |
| MenZa | A lot. | 12:37 |
| MenZa | It looks very professional. | 12:37 |
| adamant1988 | Ubuntu uses an old version of MoinMoin for their Wiki don't they? | 12:37 |
| MenZa | Hmm, I don't remember what it's called | 12:38 |
| MenZa | Yeah | 12:38 |
| MenZa | MoinMoin Wiki Engine | 12:38 |
| adamant1988 | Whatever it is, I know it's not as up to date as it should be because recent versions of the software allow for WYSIWYG editing. | 12:38 |
| MenZa | pfft | 12:38 |
| MenZa | Give me a proper syntax | 12:38 |
| MenZa | I don't need WYSIWYG | 12:38 |
| adamant1988 | MenZa: I like coding it out, and you like coding it out. Not everyone does. | 12:38 |
| MenZa | I hate when people think their "new" syntaxes are so perfect | 12:38 |
| adamant1988 | The more WYSIWYG it is, the more docs we'll have. | 12:39 |
| MenZa | adamant1988: I don't mind WYSIWYG | 12:39 |
| MenZa | as long as I can turn it off :) | 12:39 |
| adamant1988 | The only place that I think WYSIWYG would really help me is constructing tables. | 12:39 |
| MenZa | If I just have html tables, I honestly don't care | 12:39 |
| adamant1988 | It ends up taking me some amount of time to construct a proper floating table to use as my table-of-contents | 12:40 |
| MenZa | :D | 12:40 |
| adamant1988 | I ended up basing my table off the one in the MarketingTeam wiki. | 12:40 |
| adamant1988 | Trimmed down as I thought necessary though | 12:40 |
| MenZa | wow | 12:40 |
| MenZa | I feel bad now | 12:40 |
| MenZa | hmm | 12:40 |
| MenZa | tr = tablerow | 12:40 |
| MenZa | td = table...? | 12:40 |
| MenZa | table | 12:40 |
| MenZa | -> table row | 12:41 |
| MenZa | -> table d-whatever | 12:41 |
| MenZa | huzzah | 12:41 |
| adamant1988 | MenZa: It doesn't seem that simple on Ubuntu's wiki lol | 12:41 |
| MenZa | true | 12:41 |
| MenZa | I hated making my wikipage | 12:41 |
| adamant1988 | There's a lot of || Thishtana || <color=#000000> this that and the other || | 12:41 |
| MenZa | yeh | 12:42 |
| MenZa | BAD syntax | 12:42 |
| adamant1988 | WYSIWYG is just much faster when it comes to tables I think. | 12:42 |
| Burgwork | MenZa: please quit it | 12:42 |
| Burgwork | moin has a different syntax | 12:42 |
| Burgwork | get used to it | 12:42 |
| MenZa | It's totally illegible | 12:42 |
| Burgwork | no, it is merely different | 12:42 |
| MenZa | It's messy | 12:42 |
| adamant1988 | MenZa: I understand it well enough, I'm just saying that WYSIWYG might be more efficient. | 12:42 |
| MenZa | And badly structured | 12:42 |
| Burgwork | in a lot of ways it is less legible than mediawikis | 12:42 |
| MenZa | adamant1988: quite possibly | 12:43 |
| Burgwork | however, IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE | 12:43 |
| MenZa | I'm not saying Mediawiki's is good | 12:43 |
| MenZa | In fact, I'm yet to find any wikis/bulletin boards/whatever with a proper table creation syntax | 12:43 |
| adamant1988 | Well, I'm sure it's a difficult thing to make | 12:43 |
| MenZa | I don't question that :) | 12:44 |
| MenZa | Alas, now I must go | 12:45 |
| MenZa | I'm tired | 12:45 |
| MenZa | I have work tomorrow :\ | 12:45 |
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| poningru | damn it | 05:14 |
| poningru | guys I wanna apologise for dropping the ball on the beta release notes | 05:14 |
| poningru | I was just really really pissed about armstrong not replying to any of my emails | 05:15 |
| poningru | and I basically said frack this | 05:15 |
| tonyyarusso | poningru: Prolly b/c she was cleaning out her desk I'd imagine? | 05:15 |
| poningru | so... I'm sorry | 05:15 |
| poningru | tonyyarusso: hehe | 05:15 |
| tonyyarusso | Don't worry about it too much | 05:15 |
| === tonyyarusso had no idea she was leaving | ||
| poningru | no dude I can understand that, its just she never replied previously | 05:16 |
| poningru | see its not just her its some people at mofo too | 05:16 |
| poningru | same response | 05:16 |
| poningru | as in nil | 05:16 |
| poningru | so I was like frack marketing for oss | 05:16 |
| poningru | for like a day | 05:16 |
| tonyyarusso | at mofo? | 05:16 |
| poningru | mozilla foundation | 05:17 |
| tonyyarusso | ah | 05:17 |
| beuno | where did she announce she was leaving? | 05:24 |
| tonyyarusso | I don't think she did - Fabio mentioned it | 05:25 |
| beuno | yes, but how did he find out? | 05:25 |
| tonyyarusso | He works there | 05:25 |
| beuno | he mentions an email | 05:25 |
| beuno | aaaah | 05:25 |
| beuno | makes sense | 05:25 |
| tonyyarusso | :) | 05:25 |
| beuno | would of been great for them to give us the heads up... | 05:25 |
| poningru | yeah... | 05:27 |
| poningru | I wanna bring this up with jono | 05:27 |
| tonyyarusso | Go for it | 05:28 |
| beuno | +1 on nagging to jono :p | 05:28 |
| beuno | maybe we should drag him into our meeting? | 05:28 |
| poningru | I emailed him | 05:30 |
| poningru | no response yet | 05:30 |
| Burgundavia | do we really need him? | 05:34 |
| beuno | well, we have to build some sort of bridge to canonical, don't we? | 05:36 |
| beuno | it seems we've been out of the loop | 05:36 |
| poningru | indeed | 05:52 |
| poningru | Burgundavia: armstrong forwarded my email to the new guy | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | he is not that person | 05:52 |
| poningru | err semi new guy | 05:52 |
| poningru | right | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | which new guy? | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | jono is not that person (in terms of the bridge, that is) | 05:53 |
| poningru | but if the semi-new-guy works like armstrong we should def have jono in | 05:53 |
| poningru | oh? | 05:53 |
| poningru | who would that person be then? | 05:53 |
| poningru | Burgundavia: chris kenyon | 05:53 |
| poningru | the new guy | 05:53 |
| Burgundavia | he is not knew | 05:53 |
| Burgundavia | s/knew/new | 05:53 |
| Burgundavia | geez, I am tired | 05:53 |
| poningru | right semi new guy | 05:53 |
| Burgundavia | christina is newer than chris and the person we want to talk to more | 05:54 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: who would be the person then? | 05:55 |
| Burgundavia | christina armstrong is our person | 05:55 |
| Burgundavia | matthew for the web stuf | 05:55 |
| beuno | well, that's not good :D | 05:55 |
| poningru | since she is leaving | 05:55 |
| Burgundavia | leaving the company? | 05:55 |
| poningru | yeah dude | 05:55 |
| beuno | ha! | 05:56 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 05:56 |
| poningru | let me forward you the email | 05:56 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: a few emails have been flying through the ML | 05:56 |
| boredandblogging | anyone need any help? UWN or anything? | 05:56 |
| Burgundavia | I see that | 05:56 |
| beuno | so that leaves us with no bridge, which is why jono came up | 05:56 |
| tonyyarusso | boredandblogging: UWN always needs help | 05:56 |
| Burgundavia | ahh, I see | 05:56 |
| Burgundavia | I misread that | 05:56 |
| Burgundavia | likely because i was at work | 05:57 |
| beuno | which I thought was the person who bridged the community to canonical | 05:57 |
| Burgundavia | well, chris can do it now | 05:57 |
| beuno | yes, we just wanted to make sure this doesn't happen again | 05:57 |
| Burgundavia | what doesn't happen agains?] | 05:57 |
| beuno | we found out christina was leaving out of pure luck | 05:57 |
| Burgundavia | right | 05:58 |
| beuno | someone said "let's invite christina to the meeting" | 05:58 |
| boredandblogging | tonyyarusso, any particular section, I tried searching for some In The Press links, but its a bit thin out there even with the beta release | 05:58 |
| Burgundavia | that sort of thing is not something that is going to be shared with teh community | 05:58 |
| beuno | and then fabian answered "she's not working here anymore" | 05:58 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: want to fill in some of the info for the newly approved members? | 05:58 |
| tonyyarusso | boredandblogging: Start on some other stuff and come back to itp after they've had a few hours to process the beta | 05:58 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: marketing person from canonical leaving isn't worth mentioning to the "ubuntu marketing team"? | 05:59 |
| Burgundavia | companies rarely share who is leaving publicly | 05:59 |
| Burgundavia | it is fact of life | 05:59 |
| beuno | yeah, that's true | 05:59 |
| Burgundavia | look, I also carry the title of Open Source communtiy manager, merely at Userful | 05:59 |
| Burgundavia | I deal with these things as well | 05:59 |
| beuno | I don't like it, but it's true | 05:59 |
| beuno | aaah | 05:59 |
| beuno | so you're the person we should nag! :D | 06:00 |
| Burgundavia | there is also a feeling from within Canonical that we are disorganized | 06:00 |
| boredandblogging | i'll add links to the newly approved members, is it ok if I just read their own descriptions for the summary? | 06:00 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: yes, I'll look over it tomorrow | 06:00 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: but at least you can push it forward :D | 06:00 |
| boredandblogging | beuno, will do | 06:00 |
| poningru | Burgundavia: well no duh | 06:01 |
| poningru | they wont tell us what they are working on | 06:01 |
| poningru | so we cant really do anything to help | 06:01 |
| poningru | what the feeling I am getting from canonical is lets keep official pr and community marketing seperate | 06:01 |
| poningru | I dont know how true that is | 06:01 |
| poningru | if it is then I will just back off and do the community marketing thing | 06:02 |
| beuno | maybe it's a chicken and egg situation, but we still have to find a way around it | 06:02 |
| beuno | I see it that way too poningru | 06:02 |
| poningru | if they dont want it to be separate I wanna help | 06:02 |
| beuno | the Beta announcment just now is a good example | 06:02 |
| poningru | yeah and I wanna avoid that for final | 06:03 |
| Burgundavia | yep, the beta document being crap was partly my fault | 06:04 |
| Burgundavia | shall we start on teh final document now? | 06:04 |
| Burgundavia | all it really needs is some screenshots | 06:04 |
| beuno | I wasn't talking about that, but we worked on 2 documents, and neither was used in ubuntu.com | 06:04 |
| poningru | Burgundavia: isnt there another beta before this? | 06:05 |
| Burgundavia | there will be a release candidate | 06:05 |
| beuno | it was said somewhere that "canonical would handle the official announcement" | 06:05 |
| poningru | err right | 06:05 |
| Burgundavia | the press release itself will be canonical | 06:05 |
| Burgundavia | the graphical notes we can do, if we step and prove it | 06:05 |
| poningru | Burgundavia: err actually the release notes being crap was kinda my fault | 06:05 |
| poningru | see my earlier apology | 06:05 |
| beuno | wasn't that way with previous herds | 06:05 |
| poningru | anyway | 06:05 |
| Burgundavia | no worries | 06:05 |
| Burgundavia | it happened | 06:06 |
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| beuno | well, I practically didn't help there either, so I've got part of the blame too | 06:06 |
| poningru | Burgundavia: but see what I was talking about was lets do a press release thing for final | 06:06 |
| beuno | but again, it almost feels like we're being pushed away | 06:06 |
| Burgundavia | the press release is going to done by canonical | 06:06 |
| poningru | where we do it all localized | 06:06 |
| Burgundavia | look, writing good press releases is hard and you need a good list | 06:07 |
| poningru | Burgundavia: but why cant people work together? | 06:07 |
| Burgundavia | for the record, I also do that for Userful and I have painstakingly collected my list | 06:07 |
| Burgundavia | they can | 06:07 |
| Burgundavia | I will talk with Chris by phone on Monday | 06:07 |
| tonyyarusso | That'd be great | 06:07 |
| poningru | is he the one that does them? | 06:07 |
| poningru | Burgundavia: have you seen the spec I wrote up? | 06:07 |
| Burgundavia | he will be the one working with a pr agency to do it | 06:07 |
| Burgundavia | poningru: linky | 06:07 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 06:07 |
| poningru | hold on | 06:08 |
| Burgundavia | at the end of the day, we have to recognize that the press release will be written by somebody else | 06:08 |
| Burgundavia | lets work on the bits we can rock on | 06:08 |
| beuno | well, you talking to Chris puts my mind at ease on that subject | 06:08 |
| beuno | maybe get him in our meeting? | 06:08 |
| Burgundavia | I can try | 06:08 |
| Burgundavia | it is a weekend for him | 06:08 |
| beuno | just to try and get back in sync | 06:08 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 06:09 |
| Burgundavia | we need to keep it tightly focused then | 06:09 |
| Burgundavia | these are the issues at stake: | 06:09 |
| poningru | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/loco-press-releases | 06:09 |
| Burgundavia | 1. press release localization | 06:09 |
| tonyyarusso | noooooooooo | 06:09 |
| Burgundavia | 2. graphical release notes | 06:09 |
| Burgundavia | poningru: one note on that: Canonical sends in en worldwide, not just _gb | 06:10 |
| Burgundavia | given that english is the default language for business. | 06:10 |
| poningru | well right | 06:10 |
| poningru | but why not have it localized? | 06:10 |
| Burgundavia | I agree with you | 06:10 |
| Burgundavia | given that we don't need to hide what Feisty contains, we can say that there is no need to embargo the actual contents | 06:11 |
| Burgundavia | as for the actual release notes, we should try and get a pdf version | 06:11 |
| Burgundavia | probably not difficult | 06:12 |
| Burgundavia | nixternal: you still up? | 06:12 |
| nixternal | yes | 06:13 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: I also think special attention should be paid to sites like digg and slashdot, to make sure the approptiate information gets through | 06:13 |
| beuno | it's very common for random wiki lins to go there | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | nixternal: given you have real world marketing experience, care to wade in? | 06:13 |
| beuno | and that's a big audience to be misguiding | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | beuno: that issue is due to the website changeover | 06:13 |
| nixternal | what are we discussing? | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | better canonical ?<--> marketing team communication | 06:14 |
| Burgundavia | basically, those of us who could edit the website haven't got those rights back yet | 06:14 |
| Burgundavia | I need to ping Nuzum directly | 06:14 |
| nixternal | well I have been saying that for over a year now | 06:14 |
| Burgundavia | regarding the specific issues at hand, any thoughts? | 06:14 |
| nixternal | I haven't seen anything out of the Canonical side as far as marketing, all of Ubuntu marketing has been done by community members | 06:15 |
| Burgundavia | the ubuntu people have done a bunch of paper stuff | 06:15 |
| nixternal | It upsets me to see them put marketing resources into a closed-source/non-free system such as Launchpad to be honest | 06:15 |
| Burgundavia | and there was talk of getting some of the mystory stuff to the community, to be wrirten | 06:15 |
| tonyyarusso | nixternal: I agree. LP's non-open status makes me quite uncomfortable, given what we use it for... | 06:16 |
| nixternal | yup, and it upsets a majority of the devs as well | 06:16 |
| Burgundavia | it is a festering sore | 06:17 |
| Burgundavia | but that is a bikeshed we don't need to paint again | 06:17 |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:17 |
| nixternal | I love the anology | 06:17 |
| poningru | lol | 06:17 |
| Burgundavia | ok, I just pinged Matthew about restoring website access | 06:18 |
| poningru | where is he? | 06:18 |
| poningru | what happened to his channel? | 06:18 |
| nixternal | he is on vacation | 06:18 |
| poningru | oh | 06:19 |
| poningru | he is? | 06:19 |
| Burgundavia | oh, geez | 06:19 |
| poningru | where is ho whats his face | 06:19 |
| poningru | hops or something | 06:19 |
| Burgundavia | hops? | 06:19 |
| poningru | not sure what his name was | 06:19 |
| poningru | old time webmaster | 06:19 |
| Burgundavia | heno? | 06:20 |
| poningru | yeah thats it | 06:20 |
| Burgundavia | he is canonicals accessibility person | 06:20 |
| poningru | oh? | 06:20 |
| Burgundavia | random fact: heno has no arms or legs | 06:20 |
| poningru | waah? | 06:20 |
| poningru | are you serious? | 06:20 |
| nixternal | ya, he did a huge website redesign, and then goes on vacation :) | 06:20 |
| nixternal | hahahahaha | 06:20 |
| Burgundavia | ie: he kicks all of our asses at the whole typing thing | 06:20 |
| poningru | Burgundavia: how does he type? | 06:21 |
| poningru | who unregistered matt's channel though? | 06:21 |
| === poningru steals it | ||
| poningru | we should totally do that | 06:21 |
| poningru | when he comes back a bunch of us should be sitting in there with ops | 06:22 |
| Burgundavia | matts channel? | 06:22 |
| tonyyarusso | #ubuntu-matt | 06:22 |
| tonyyarusso | For website questions | 06:22 |
| tonyyarusso | poningru: lol | 06:22 |
| Burgundavia | ahh | 06:23 |
| === beuno thinks that a simple wiki page with a "who does what" would solve a lot of problems | ||
| beuno | as in "in charge of" | 06:24 |
| beuno | ubuntu-wide | 06:24 |
| Burgundavia | there is already CanonicalStaff | 06:24 |
| Burgundavia | back to the topic at hand | 06:25 |
| Burgundavia | anything else you want me to talk to Chris about? | 06:25 |
| beuno | ok, good enough | 06:25 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: maybe a "what does canonical expect from us"? | 06:25 |
| beuno | so we know if we're lagging behind | 06:26 |
| Burgundavia | I think they expect regular meetings | 06:26 |
| Burgundavia | and clear projects | 06:26 |
| Burgundavia | for instance, the dyi | 06:26 |
| Burgundavia | is there a clear todo and a project plan? | 06:26 |
| beuno | yes, it has been stalled on my side | 06:26 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 06:27 |
| beuno | but it's clear on what's left | 06:27 |
| Burgundavia | letting stuff get stalled on one person is bad | 06:27 |
| beuno | finish the php code, and start uploading | 06:27 |
| Burgundavia | the UWN and the release notes seemed to have survived my disappearance | 06:27 |
| beuno | well, I pushed all the code to the bzr with comments | 06:27 |
| Burgundavia | is it doable to have dyi up for Feisty? | 06:27 |
| tonyyarusso | Burgundavia: barely - took some big "stepping up to the plate", largely on beuno's part. | 06:27 |
| beuno | I still intend to finish it, but I've been trying get UWN back up | 06:28 |
| beuno | :D | 06:28 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 06:28 |
| tonyyarusso | So yeah, about that membership thing, thumbs ups for beuno | 06:28 |
| Burgundavia | and my saturday just got blown apart, due to a careless alarm tech cutting some network cables in my office | 06:28 |
| beuno | but to answer your other question, yes, it's doable to get diy by feist | 06:28 |
| beuno | that is our self appointed goal with dan and jenda | 06:29 |
| Burgundavia | when was the last time you put a call out for volunteers? | 06:29 |
| Burgundavia | do you have some "junior jobs"? | 06:29 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: I (we) can handle the UWN | 06:29 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: for UWN or DIY? | 06:29 |
| Burgundavia | the latter | 06:29 |
| poningru | beuno: yeah dude I wanna help with that too | 06:30 |
| beuno | poningru: the more the merrier | 06:30 |
| poningru | I thought it was done and ready to go | 06:30 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: it's up to a point where it would take 10 times less for us to get it up then have new ppl get in | 06:30 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 06:31 |
| beuno | after it's up, theres all kinds of small sized jobs we can pass on | 06:31 |
| beuno | poningru: #33 needs some work | 06:31 |
| beuno | cleaning up, suming up, filling in a few sections | 06:31 |
| poningru | oh blargh? | 06:31 |
| beuno | blargh? | 06:31 |
| poningru | see I am not at all knowledgable about bzr | 06:31 |
| poningru | I do not know what you mean about 33 | 06:31 |
| beuno | aah | 06:32 |
| beuno | UWN #33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue33 | 06:32 |
| poningru | oh lol | 06:32 |
| beuno | you meant DIY? | 06:32 |
| poningru | I thought you meant ..yeah | 06:32 |
| Burgundavia | what about hosting a sprint on the DYI next weekend? | 06:32 |
| beuno | poningru: you familiar with PHP? | 06:32 |
| poningru | beuno: yep | 06:32 |
| poningru | working on suc right now | 06:32 |
| poningru | well supposed to be | 06:32 |
| beuno | well, this is good news :D | 06:33 |
| poningru | also one suggestion a friend of mine had is... | 06:33 |
| poningru | most newsletters and magazines release for the week following | 06:33 |
| beuno | poningru: do you have bzr installed? | 06:34 |
| poningru | beuno: yes | 06:34 |
| poningru | I know how to download | 06:34 |
| poningru | but no clue how to push | 06:34 |
| poningru | DRAT | 06:34 |
| poningru | ok sorry guys I have to go sleep | 06:34 |
| poningru | a rep is coming to our uni tomorrow | 06:34 |
| poningru | so have to wake up extra early | 06:34 |
| Burgundavia | cya | 06:34 |
| beuno | poningru: np, we'll continue this later on | 06:34 |
| poningru | yes please | 06:34 |
| poningru | :) | 06:34 |
| poningru | nn | 06:34 |
| Burgundavia | beuno: back on release managemetn for the dyi stuff | 06:35 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: the situation is I need to work on it for 2 hours and it should be "usable" | 06:35 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 06:35 |
| Burgundavia | do you want to try and hold a "sprint" for it next weekend? | 06:36 |
| beuno | but I've been putting all my energy on UWN, and have been coding too much at work, so that's been turning me off | 06:36 |
| Burgundavia | yep, the UWN is a huge time suck | 06:36 |
| beuno | well, what would the sprint consist in? me drinking tons of energy drinks? :p | 06:36 |
| Burgundavia | that is why I burned out | 06:36 |
| Burgundavia | http://wiki.python.org/moin/SprintIntroduction | 06:37 |
| Burgundavia | ignore the "in the same place stuff" | 06:37 |
| beuno | I just got a "forum integration" think out of my system by hacking up the acual code for it and sending it to ryan | 06:37 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: I know what a sprint is, it just normally involves more then one developer :p | 06:38 |
| beuno | I'm aiming to get the rest of the backend done this weekend | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 06:38 |
| beuno | if not, I'll make sure that poningru can finish whatever I didn't | 06:38 |
| beuno | and get it up | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | I cannot code worth a damn, but I and Madpilot can do some of the web stuff | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | and if we declare a sprint and say "we need this to be done", we will get people | 06:39 |
| beuno | I'm not comfortable being the bottleneck, so I'm up to a point where it's harder *not* to do it | 06:39 |
| Burgundavia | sadly, getting rid of a bottleneck is easier said than done | 06:40 |
| beuno | ok, well, let's do this, if I don't get it done by this weekend, next one we do a sprint | 06:40 |
| beuno | yeap, sadly | 06:40 |
| Burgundavia | what is your thought on getting the UWN out by? | 06:40 |
| beuno | I'd like to get it out by sunday, as planned | 06:41 |
| boredandblogging | beuno, shouldn't you write your own member profile on the UWN? ;-) | 06:41 |
| beuno | impose an actual "weekly" release | 06:41 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: probably not, heh | 06:41 |
| beuno | but I will make sure none of it is incorrect | 06:41 |
| boredandblogging | beuno, hah, congrats man | 06:42 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: thanks :D | 06:42 |
| Burgundavia | sunday means differeent things in different places | 06:42 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: I'd also like to address mark's comment on getting more exposue to "uwn" | 06:42 |
| Burgundavia | remember, our timezones are 10 hours apart | 06:42 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: I don't mind it's the "latest hour possible in the world" | 06:43 |
| beuno | as long as it's always on the same day | 06:43 |
| Burgundavia | I usually aimed for Sunday 00:00 UTC-8, which is 10am your time | 06:43 |
| beuno | and sunday seems like a good day due to the weekend (free time), and people starting the week with the latest news | 06:43 |
| Burgundavia | ok, shall we say Sunday 08:00 UTC? | 06:44 |
| beuno | well, I don't get up before 2pm my time on sundays, so if that's where you want to aim, I'll have to get it done by saturday :p | 06:44 |
| Burgundavia | that means I can do a great deal of the heavy lifting Saturday night | 06:44 |
| Burgundavia | well, if we get it out before Sunday, that leaves you free to work on the DYI stuff :0 | 06:44 |
| Burgundavia | :) | 06:44 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: why not 23:00 UTC the latest | 06:45 |
| beuno | hahaha | 06:45 |
| beuno | true | 06:45 |
| beuno | I thought this was a more "from now on" discussion | 06:45 |
| Burgundavia | it is, 33 hasn't be released yet :) | 06:45 |
| beuno | this particular one, as soon as possible as long as it's before monday | 06:46 |
| Burgundavia | I look at the number of weekends before Feisty and I see time vanishing quickly | 06:46 |
| beuno | also, it should be on the fridge instantly | 06:46 |
| Burgundavia | I can do that | 06:46 |
| beuno | great | 06:46 |
| beuno | and while we're on it, I want to get the translations organized | 06:47 |
| beuno | it gets translated into all kinds of languages | 06:47 |
| beuno | which just fade away into some blog | 06:47 |
| beuno | only french and spanish (I usually make sure it gets translated into spanish) links are added in the wiki | 06:47 |
| Burgundavia | I almost wonder if we should move off the wiki at some point | 06:47 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: to where? | 06:48 |
| Burgundavia | no idea, hence the wondering and not a decision | 06:48 |
| === beuno doesn't know why he keeps pinging you, there's nobody else talking | ||
| Burgundavia | habit | 06:48 |
| beuno | maybe a specific section in ubuntu.com? | 06:48 |
| Burgundavia | the workflow for translating on the wiki kind of sucks | 06:48 |
| beuno | like the fridge? | 06:49 |
| Burgundavia | I don't really know | 06:49 |
| beuno | what I do for translations is actually create the /ES with the english content | 06:49 |
| Burgundavia | I think we would need some sort of customization on top of an existing app | 06:49 |
| beuno | and mail me LoCo to get them translating | 06:50 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: would there be any realistic way tu use rosetta? | 06:50 |
| Burgundavia | not easily | 06:50 |
| Burgundavia | we need to generate pot files | 06:50 |
| === beuno is going to remove the tab button from the keyboard | ||
| Burgundavia | then we need to merge the content back in | 06:50 |
| beuno | well, that can be automated I think | 06:51 |
| beuno | I'm not sure how much it would take for the whole translation proces in rosetta though | 06:51 |
| Burgundavia | a lot | 06:51 |
| beuno | having to be approved and all | 06:51 |
| Burgundavia | need ot create docbook from the moin, then pos from the docbook | 06:51 |
| Burgundavia | then pull to pos out and then merge them back with the docbook and regenerate the moin | 06:51 |
| Burgundavia | it could be scripted | 06:52 |
| beuno | maybe we should add "mail the translation groups" to the post-release checklist? | 06:52 |
| beuno | simple and effective? | 06:52 |
| Burgundavia | yep, but via what email? | 06:52 |
| beuno | doesn't matter, does it? | 06:52 |
| Burgundavia | sort of | 06:53 |
| Burgundavia | we need to tell the correct people | 06:53 |
| beuno | "UWN #XX is out, please start translating" | 06:53 |
| beuno | to there mailing lists" | 06:53 |
| Burgundavia | ah, to the mailing lists | 06:53 |
| beuno | yes, I thought you meant "from", not "to" | 06:53 |
| Burgundavia | that would need to passed through the admin queue | 06:53 |
| beuno | well, the editor can be suscribed to them | 06:54 |
| Burgundavia | wow | 06:54 |
| beuno | I'd be willing to | 06:54 |
| Burgundavia | there has got to be an easier way | 06:54 |
| === beuno hugs his gmail filters | ||
| beuno | I can't think of one right now, but we can fire an email to the ML | 06:54 |
| beuno | and maybe the LoCo one too | 06:54 |
| Burgundavia | be nice if we built up regular translators | 06:55 |
| beuno | we already kind of have for 4 or 5 languages | 06:55 |
| Burgundavia | es and which others? | 06:55 |
| beuno | just very unstructured | 06:55 |
| beuno | fr | 06:55 |
| beuno | de | 06:55 |
| beuno | and some language I can't understand | 06:56 |
| Burgundavia | heh | 06:56 |
| beuno | hungarian or something like that | 06:56 |
| Burgundavia | where are they going? | 06:56 |
| beuno | blogs | 06:56 |
| Burgundavia | ahh | 06:56 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 06:56 |
| beuno | and there are some other germans | 06:57 |
| beuno | translating it | 06:57 |
| beuno | and making it kubuntu specific: http://www.kubuntu-de.org/kubuntu-weekly-news/2006/kwn-26-12-31-dezember-2006 | 06:57 |
| Burgundavia | ironic we have this created this web interface and we cannot use it | 06:57 |
| beuno | http://www.ubuntu-fr.org/lettre/ | 06:57 |
| beuno | http://start.linux.org.ba/Ubuntu_nedjeljnik/31 | 06:57 |
| beuno | well, that's something to bring up :D | 06:58 |
| Burgundavia | well, our translations appear to be well in hand | 06:58 |
| beuno | yeap, just very spread out | 06:58 |
| Burgundavia | so what we really need is people adding them to the wiki page | 06:59 |
| Burgundavia | shall I edit the page to create a space for them, to encourage more? | 06:59 |
| beuno | yes, and having some sort of specific method to notify them we released | 06:59 |
| Burgundavia | we already have that: it is called the mailing to -news | 06:59 |
| beuno | well, if you see previous UWNs, there is a "translations" item on most of them | 07:00 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: yes, but do *they* know that? | 07:00 |
| beuno | my impression is that the UWN gets to them in all sort of ways | 07:00 |
| beuno | fridge, other lists, links in forums, blogs, etc | 07:00 |
| Burgundavia | if we get the fridge up the first day | 07:00 |
| === nixternal checks the UWN for some Kubuntu love | ||
| Burgundavia | should we get something on the forums? | 07:00 |
| nixternal | if I don't find it, you all are in trouble ;p | 07:01 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: absolutely | 07:01 |
| Burgundavia | nixternal: nope, you are | 07:01 |
| beuno | hahah | 07:01 |
| nixternal | d'oh | 07:01 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: but we should add all these things to the "post-release" | 07:01 |
| Burgundavia | shall we try for this forum:" http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=222 | 07:01 |
| beuno | - send to the fridge | 07:01 |
| beuno | - send to translators | 07:02 |
| beuno | - send to forum | 07:02 |
| beuno | yeap, seems like the best place | 07:02 |
| Burgundavia | we need to make you a fridge editor | 07:02 |
| Burgundavia | it should say what specifically is needed for each | 07:02 |
| beuno | what kind of voodoo does that involve? | 07:02 |
| Burgundavia | for the firdge? | 07:02 |
| Burgundavia | mail fridge-devel@lists.ubuntu.com asking for an account | 07:03 |
| Burgundavia | can you sort out with the forums to see if you and/or I can post to that forum? | 07:03 |
| beuno | yes, every single item should have an explanation, so someone like me can take over when it's been left out and get it going again | 07:03 |
| Burgundavia | for the translators, I say we send one mailing list to the lococontacts list each month | 07:03 |
| beuno | yes, I'll sort out the forum stuff | 07:03 |
| Burgundavia | and let them find it find via the three methods we release by | 07:04 |
| beuno | that sounds much better | 07:04 |
| beuno | and maybe add a "Translations" item to the template | 07:05 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 07:05 |
| beuno | and leave common languages empty or "needs translation" to encourage anyone to go ahead and do it | 07:05 |
| nixternal | beuno: if you would like, I can (and so can Burgundavia) put in a good word. But I would actually wait a couple of days, then remind me. We are waiting for Jono to come at us with a new proposal for the Fridge | 07:05 |
| beuno | needs translation can be a link to specific instructions... | 07:06 |
| Burgundavia | sounds good | 07:06 |
| beuno | nixternal: I'm still trying to figure out how some thinks work around here, so basically whatever you guys recomend | 07:07 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: should I go ahead and edit the template for the translations? | 07:07 |
| nixternal | beuno: things just work, no need to try and figure them out ;p | 07:07 |
| Burgundavia | absolutely | 07:07 |
| beuno | nixternal: tell that to the DIY code that still needs to be finished | 07:08 |
| nixternal | ahh, DIY 1 year later (err 2 now almost) | 07:08 |
| Burgundavia | http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=222 | 07:08 |
| nixternal | at least someone is finally doing it though | 07:08 |
| beuno | 1 year??? I've been here for a little under 6 months, didn't know it went that far back | 07:08 |
| Burgundavia | dyi is an idea a long time coming | 07:09 |
| nixternal | a very long time coming | 07:09 |
| Burgundavia | jenda and I have talked about it for a long time and even jenda is not the original dev, if my memory serves me correctly | 07:09 |
| nixternal | I remember when we had like ubuntupeople.com or something | 07:09 |
| tonyyarusso | Me too | 07:09 |
| nixternal | Burgundavia: you are correct | 07:09 |
| Burgundavia | indeed ubuntupeople.com | 07:09 |
| nixternal | the original dev was the owner of ubuntupeople.com on that | 07:09 |
| Burgundavia | which thankfully diead | 07:10 |
| nixternal | then we (I think I) pissed him off because we decided to take action and actually try to make stuff happen | 07:10 |
| Burgundavia | sorry,wrong link | 07:10 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.eweek.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l=&s=26744&a=203626&po=19,00.asp?p=y | 07:10 |
| beuno | I, for some random reason, own easyubuntu.com | 07:10 |
| beuno | just a fun fact | 07:10 |
| Burgundavia | ahh | 07:11 |
| tonyyarusso | beuno: Good to know? | 07:11 |
| beuno | not a flatering pic for mark | 07:11 |
| beuno | tonyyarusso: it's just lying there waiting for a good idea to come up | 07:11 |
| Burgundavia | a redirect to ubuntu.com for now | 07:12 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 07:12 |
| nixternal | easyubuntu, not like that script that installed all kinds of junk? | 07:13 |
| Burgundavia | easyubuntu was teh better version, forked off automatix | 07:13 |
| boredandblogging | beuno, added the new member profiles | 07:14 |
| beuno | nixternal: no, unrelated | 07:14 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: not a bad idea, I'll add a redirect | 07:14 |
| Burgundavia | maybe we can create a "ubuntu.com/switch" page | 07:14 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: checking out | 07:14 |
| Burgundavia | and then redirect easyubuntu.com to that | 07:14 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: it's just sitting there, so I don't mind changing it around | 07:16 |
| beuno | I originally had an idea to a website where you could search for packages in the repos and install them straight from Firefox | 07:16 |
| beuno | had the extension half programmed | 07:16 |
| beuno | but I just didn't have the time | 07:17 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 07:17 |
| Burgundavia | there was a long term plan for that | 07:17 |
| beuno | really? I wasn't aware of it | 07:17 |
| Burgundavia | you know, you could upstage cnr by getting that out sooner <evil grin> | 07:17 |
| beuno | I got frustrated by having such a hard time finding software | 07:17 |
| beuno | hahahah | 07:17 |
| beuno | yes, that's what I need, more work | 07:18 |
| Burgundavia | http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Linspire_Canonical_Partnership_FAQ | 07:18 |
| beuno | ah, "a few years" | 07:18 |
| Burgundavia | read that as "Linspire is being eaten alive by Ubuntu, so they are jumping ship to Ubuntu" | 07:18 |
| Burgundavia | basically I widely expect Linspire to be sold at some point | 07:18 |
| beuno | yes, lindows didn't work out very well | 07:19 |
| beuno | it is, there is linspire, which is paid, and freespire, which is free | 07:19 |
| Burgundavia | they are doing well in the educational market | 07:19 |
| beuno | at least AFAIK | 07:19 |
| Burgundavia | and they just dropped their Freespire OSS edition, much touted | 07:19 |
| tonyyarusso | really? | 07:19 |
| beuno | oh, I missed that | 07:19 |
| === tonyyarusso too | ||
| === beuno curses his bloglines | ||
| Burgundavia | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.freespire.user/1668 | 07:21 |
| beuno | hm, seems the move to ubuntu-based provoked it | 07:22 |
| boredandblogging | can we stop displaying the whole URL for In The Press? Some of them are taking up almost a whole row. Maybe have a 'For Full Article: Link' and Link is a [http://whatever Link] . | 07:22 |
| tonyyarusso | boredandblogging: go for it | 07:23 |
| beuno | not really | 07:23 |
| tonyyarusso | I think we actually used to do it that way | 07:23 |
| beuno | the UWN does to the emailing list | 07:23 |
| beuno | which is plain text | 07:23 |
| beuno | so that doesn't work very well | 07:23 |
| tonyyarusso | beuno: It will show [http://whatever Link] in the e-mail, which isn't much | 07:24 |
| beuno | right, well, Burgundavia? | 07:24 |
| Burgundavia | well? | 07:24 |
| === beuno steps aside | ||
| Burgundavia | no we need to do that | 07:25 |
| Burgundavia | for the plaintext email | 07:25 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, matthew revell sat on the freespire board | 07:25 |
| tonyyarusso | interesting | 07:26 |
| beuno | yes, it might explain things a bit | 07:26 |
| boredandblogging | ok, how about the link is on the next line after the article, so the wiki doesn't break up the link into two lines if its really long? | 07:26 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: that sounds doable, yes | 07:27 |
| boredandblogging | and maybe smaller text? but that might cause problems in the email | 07:27 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: text size can't be changed | 07:27 |
| beuno | in emails that is | 07:27 |
| beuno | in the wiki, I don't think it's worth it | 07:27 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.understated.co.uk/blog/2006/resignation-from-freespire-leadership-board/ | 07:27 |
| boredandblogging | ok, next line it is | 07:28 |
| nixternal | haha, I said they should name the new Beryl Compiz crap they are doing again, CrAp. didn't realise one of the devs was hanging out in there | 07:29 |
| nixternal | oh well, I called it how I see it ;p | 07:29 |
| beuno | lol | 07:30 |
| boredandblogging | not to nit-picky, but the os news review was posted in 32, probably works better this week because of the beta, leave it alone? | 07:31 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: how's this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/IssueTemplate | 07:32 |
| Burgundavia | looks good | 07:32 |
| Burgundavia | we will need to create those pages for each week, but that is not a major deal | 07:33 |
| beuno | no, and even if we don't they will have a direct link to where to dump the translation | 07:33 |
| beuno | hmmm | 07:36 |
| beuno | UWN breaks after adding the translation bit | 07:36 |
| beuno | anyone know what language this is in? http://emir.linux.org.ba/?p=32 | 07:40 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: should I remove melissa as the "final editor" for LoCo News? | 07:48 |
| beuno | I haven't gotten her to pay any attention to it for a long time now | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | sure | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | she is knee deep in finding a new job, I think | 07:49 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies | 07:51 |
| beuno | and that should conclude a big part of what we've been throwing around the last couple of hours | 07:52 |
| beuno | at least it's documented :D | 07:52 |
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| beuno | boredandblogging: don't forget to add your name at the bottom of the UWN | 07:54 |
| boredandblogging | beuno, will do | 07:56 |
| boredandblogging | anything else that needs work? | 07:56 |
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| beuno | boredandblogging: "In The Blogoshpere" needs some lovin | 07:57 |
| beuno | and the "In The Press" section summaries should be a bit longer | 07:58 |
| beuno | (2 or 3 lines, see previous UWNs) | 07:58 |
| boredandblogging | ok, I'll work on them both | 07:58 |
| beuno | and it seems we don't have any LoCo news... :( | 07:58 |
| beuno | I'll organize all that's scattered in the UWN tomorrow | 07:59 |
| beuno | and nag LoCo teams | 07:59 |
| beuno | or just make up random stuff about them like "X LoCo are sacrificing pigs to Debian" | 08:00 |
| beuno | that'll teach em not to produce any news | 08:00 |
| boredandblogging | lol | 08:00 |
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| boredandblogging | whats the policy for the blogosphere? I know we don't want to pimp out random blogs | 08:01 |
| boredandblogging | i'm going to change the ITN to look like the previous UWNs | 08:01 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: it's hard to say, but you can add links you find interesting and we can edit them out if necessary | 08:02 |
| tonyyarusso | boredandblogging: It's new, so it lacks much in the way of policy. | 08:02 |
| beuno | don't sumaries them until they're checked | 08:02 |
| beuno | and yes, theres that :D | 08:02 |
| tonyyarusso | The main point is to find the blogs that are exceptionally well-written and in-depth | 08:02 |
| beuno | the main idea behind it is to encourage bloggers | 08:02 |
| beuno | yes | 08:02 |
| tonyyarusso | Hilight both the coverage of us and the work of the blogger; try to lure them into helping us | 08:02 |
| beuno | that should go on there as a comment | 08:02 |
| === beuno goes to the template | ||
| boredandblogging | alright, let me find some blogs and we'll go from there | 08:03 |
| beuno | it seems it was already on there :D | 08:04 |
| beuno | yes, I believe adamant1988 brought up the proposal for something like this | 08:04 |
| boredandblogging | its a good idea, just going to be interesting filtering through them | 08:04 |
| beuno | and once a few of them get a taste of being on it, it will be much harder :D | 08:05 |
| boredandblogging | hah, true | 08:06 |
| beuno | well, I', out | 08:06 |
| beuno | *I'm | 08:06 |
| beuno | dog wants to pee, I want to pee | 08:06 |
| beuno | and it's 4am | 08:07 |
| beuno | Burgundavia: great brainstorming today | 08:07 |
| beuno | tomorrow I'll put some attention on UWN #33 and DIY | 08:07 |
| Burgundavia | sounds good | 08:08 |
| beuno | g'night all | 08:08 |
| boredandblogging | nite | 08:09 |
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| jenda | Good morning | 11:30 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: seems they're all still sleeping ;) | 11:34 |
| jenda | Looks like it :) | 11:34 |
| jenda | beuno: ping | 11:35 |
| jenda | Well, I admit I have just gotten up about half an hour ago ;) But then again, yesterday was a loong night | 11:36 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: at least I already had a coffee ;) | 11:36 |
| jenda | Hehe... /me isn't much of a coffee person | 11:36 |
| === jenda runs off to make some tea | ||
| jenda | :) | 11:36 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: I can't get my brain to work in the morning without a bit coffeine :-P | 11:37 |
| jenda | tea has plenty ;) | 11:40 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: I thought that was theine? | 11:40 |
| jenda | Bah, they kept changing the name ;) It's nearly identical to caffeine, so it was, at one time, at least, called tea caffeine. | 11:41 |
| jenda | Or that's what I gathered - what's important is that it's there ;) | 11:41 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: wikipedia says you're right :-D | 11:43 |
| jenda | whee :) | 11:43 |
| jenda | I was actually hoping you'd check, so I wouldn't have to ;) | 11:43 |
| === jenda is raking through a ton of email :/ | ||
| Zerlinna | lol | 11:44 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Wikipedia+search?content=35639 ;) | 11:46 |
| jenda | not bad | 11:47 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: I love it :) | 11:48 |
| jenda | :) | 11:48 |
| jenda | It brings the library of Alexandria right to your desktop... | 11:48 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: this one is not bad either: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Multi_Search?content=53728 ;) | 11:49 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: luckily it can't burn :-D | 11:49 |
| jenda | interesting :) | 11:49 |
| jenda | unfortunately, i'm a gnome person ;) | 11:50 |
| Zerlinna | jenda: I feared that might be the case :) | 11:51 |
| jenda | hehe | 11:52 |
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| beuno | jenda, mornin | 06:52 |
| jenda | mornin :) | 06:52 |
| jenda | How's you this fine day? | 06:53 |
| jenda | And how's the DIY coding going? ;) | 06:53 |
| === jenda runs | ||
| === beuno tries to open his eyes wide enough to read all that text | ||
| beuno | this fine day is great, I can't make out the rest :p | 06:54 |
| jenda | hehehe | 06:54 |
| jenda | of course ;) | 06:55 |
| beuno | actually, Corey has threatend with a "sprint" next weekend if I don't get this done by then | 06:56 |
| beuno | jenda: did you see my other email to ryan? | 07:00 |
| jenda | yep | 07:01 |
| jenda | hehe | 07:01 |
| === jenda bribes Corey to do this more often | ||
| jenda | Good email, btw, just didn't have anything to respond ;) | 07:02 |
| jenda | I hope you get a positive answer. | 07:02 |
| beuno | I can't go any further then that | 07:03 |
| beuno | I went ahead and coded it | 07:03 |
| beuno | so if it doesn't go through, I don't think I'll actively persue is any more | 07:04 |
| jenda | Yes, that sounds sensible... | 07:06 |
| boredandblogging | beuno, I tried cleaning up the ITN section and proposed some links for the blogosphere, it really is not easy finding decent links for that. | 07:06 |
| beuno | boredandblogging: great, I'll check it out in a bit | 07:07 |
| beuno | jenda: I might setup some kind of web service for other to integrate it into there blogs/forums | 07:08 |
| beuno | but after I get DIY up ;) | 07:09 |
| jenda | that sounds good ;) | 07:09 |
| beuno | and I'll take ryan out of my christmas card list! | 07:12 |
| jenda | hehe | 07:12 |
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| kbrooks | wow | 10:26 |
| kbrooks | i actually promoted ubuntu to a person | 10:26 |
| elcasey | good work | 10:26 |
| tsmithe | yay! | 10:26 |
| kbrooks | i wont say the name, but i gave her the ubuntu cd and uh | 10:26 |
| kbrooks | said that she could try it out | 10:26 |
| tsmithe | uh? | 10:26 |
| elcasey | now you'r egetting married? | 10:26 |
| elcasey | oh | 10:27 |
| tsmithe | hehe | 10:27 |
| elcasey | :P | 10:27 |
| kbrooks | and warned her not to install it unless it works | 10:27 |
| kbrooks | <elcasey> now you'r egetting married? # i would say her name if i was married, but nooo im 16 | 10:27 |
| === tsmithe is 15 so hah! :P | ||
| kbrooks | anyway, i have good news other than that. | 10:28 |
| elcasey | lol | 10:28 |
| === elcasey feels old | ||
| kbrooks | lets see, how do i start | 10:28 |
| kbrooks | umm | 10:28 |
| elcasey | you can get married when you're 16, can't you? | 10:28 |
| kbrooks | i wasnt implying that | 10:29 |
| kbrooks | rather, i DON'T WANT TO get married atm | 10:29 |
| tsmithe | elcasey, so i thought | 10:29 |
| kbrooks | i haven't found a gf. all my friends are decked out | 10:29 |
| elcasey | decked out? | 10:29 |
| === tsmithe isn't familiar with "decked out" | ||
| elcasey | thanks, smitty :) | 10:29 |
| kbrooks | elcasey, read in context | 10:29 |
| elcasey | i'm not down with the...whatever | 10:30 |
| elcasey | i just don't know what the hell you're talking about :P | 10:30 |
| kbrooks | elcasey, well, it's a metaphor in this case. it means "already taken" | 10:30 |
| tsmithe | ah | 10:31 |
| kbrooks | on the deck, and refusing to leave | 10:31 |
| tsmithe | but i don't get the metaphor | 10:31 |
| tsmithe | mmhmm | 10:31 |
| tsmithe | :) | 10:31 |
| adamant1988 | elcasey: don't mock marriage newb :P | 10:31 |
| elcasey | why not? | 10:31 |
| kbrooks | tsmithe, i haven't found a gf because my friends have a sweetheart!!! | 10:31 |
| kbrooks | tsmithe, that is what i mean. | 10:31 |
| elcasey | and wtf are you calling newb, i'm almost a decade older than you! lol | 10:31 |
| === tsmithe gets it | ||
| tsmithe | :D | 10:32 |
| kbrooks | s/a//; s/sweetheart/sweethearts/ | 10:32 |
| adamant1988 | elcasey: I'm so totally 1337 at life, and you fail at it | 10:32 |
| === kbrooks shuts up | ||
| elcasey | hahaha | 10:32 |
| adamant1988 | Plus, you can't mock marriage and have me let you get away with it.. I'm engaged :P | 10:32 |
| kbrooks | I should write a review of Ubuntu. | 10:32 |
| elcasey | not my fault | 10:32 |
| kbrooks | and uh I did some quick router work. I must applaud the work D-Link is doing to their (wireless) routers | 10:33 |
| kbrooks | i have one of these as a gift for my 16th bday, which was today. | 10:34 |
| kbrooks | and I set it up, and everythying works | 10:34 |
| elcasey | kbrooks: you gotta get a WRT54GL | 10:34 |
| kbrooks | it's easy provided you know the plugging in and setup part, and that is pretty much it | 10:34 |
| elcasey | happy birthday | 10:34 |
| elcasey | my 27th was two weeks ago today | 10:34 |
| kbrooks | Cool. | 10:35 |
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| elcasey | I got...cash :P | 10:35 |
| kbrooks | I think I'll put Ubuntu on the kitchen counters, and leave all but one CD for me | 10:36 |
| elcasey | I love free CDs | 10:37 |
| elcasey | I've given several to instructors at school already...they especially dig the "I don't need $70 PartitionMagic anymore" part ;) | 10:37 |
| kbrooks | what do I do to my old 5.10 cd? | 10:37 |
| kbrooks | throw it out? | 10:37 |
| kbrooks | any ideas? | 10:37 |
| elcasey | eat it | 10:38 |
| kbrooks | very funny elcasey | 10:38 |
| elcasey | i'm a laugh riot | 10:38 |
| kbrooks | ok, i think i'll throw it out. | 10:38 |
| elcasey | just save it | 10:38 |
| elcasey | for archival purposes | 10:38 |
| kbrooks | why might i need it? | 10:38 |
| tsmithe | elcasey, that's not true | 10:38 |
| elcasey | just to have | 10:39 |
| elcasey | what isn't? | 10:39 |
| tsmithe | that | 10:40 |
| === tsmithe points | ||
| === elcasey goes into the corner and lays down | ||
| kbrooks | tsmithe, clarify "that". elcasey obviously doesnt ge t you | 10:41 |
| tsmithe | well, he should | 10:41 |
| === elcasey isn't in the mood today | ||
| tsmithe | :'( | 10:41 |
| kbrooks | tsmithe, maybe i got you: the "$70 pmagic" part? | 10:41 |
| tsmithe | *huggles elcasey* | 10:41 |
| tsmithe | nope | 10:42 |
| tsmithe | <elcasey> i'm a laugh riot | 10:42 |
| elcasey | :D | 10:42 |
| kbrooks | lol | 10:42 |
| elcasey | thanks, smitty...you're a real pal ;) | 10:42 |
| tsmithe | :) | 10:42 |
| tsmithe | i know :) | 10:42 |
| kbrooks | okay, i put ubuntu in a drawer - the house drawer \ | 10:43 |
| kbrooks | we'll see about who picks it up, and I'll get more CDs resent to me if necessary for more "promotion" | 10:44 |
| elcasey | your house only has 1 drawer? | 10:45 |
| elcasey | I just ordered another 10 | 10:45 |
| kbrooks | no | 10:46 |
| jenda | Hello Mr. Brooks ;) | 10:47 |
| kbrooks | i have a CD rack, with various CDs. (homemade CD rack). right now, i only have the (K)Ubuntu (6.06, 5.10 - ubuntu only) cds in the CD rack | 10:48 |
| kbrooks | the other 5 (?) cds are in the kitchen drawer waiting for someone to pick them up. | 10:48 |
| kbrooks | on this computer desk, i have 4 drawers, filled with stuff | 10:49 |
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| kbrooks | jenda, hi | 10:51 |
| kbrooks | ping | 10:52 |
| kbrooks | ping | 10:52 |
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| kbrooks | ping | 10:52 |
| kbrooks | test | 10:52 |
| kbrooks | am i online/ | 10:52 |
| kbrooks | ?* | 10:52 |
| kbrooks | i'll brb, i need to unplug lappy | 10:52 |
| nixternal | yes | 11:02 |
| nixternal | you are online | 11:02 |
| jenda | no, you aren't ;) | 11:15 |
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