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| TheMuso | Hey MOTUs. | 12:40 |
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| StevenK | TheMuso: Hey | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | to whom is responsible for this, I just fixed aquamarine ftbfs issue, should be in the repos tomorrow | 12:44 |
| nixternal | Tonio_: you are now responsible for it :) | 12:46 |
| lupine_85 | thanks Tonio_, I didn't realise it was still an issue | 12:47 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: hehe | 12:48 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: just 2 builddeps missing, classic issue with kde apps : automake1.9 and autoconf | 12:48 |
| lupine_85 | yeah, they always get me as well :D | 12:49 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: another option could have been to apply buildprep, for for further maintainance, easier to had builddeps | 12:49 |
| Tonio_ | I wanna see that beryl-kubuntu working out of the box hehe :) | 12:50 |
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| lupine_85 | :) | 12:52 |
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| lupine_85 | The settings profile probably needs some tweaking | 12:52 |
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| Tonio_ | lupine_85: if I have time to help, I'll do :) | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: I have quite some experience in configuring kde hehe :) | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | I may have some time in 10 days | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: concerning the autostart, is there something automated or do we have to manually create a ~/.kde/Autostart/ script ? | 12:56 |
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| lupine_85 | Tonio_: nothing automated at the moment | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: hum that's the asty part... | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | I mean someone installing beryl logically wants it autostarted | 12:59 |
| lupine_85 | well, not if they have compiz installed as well | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | hum, makes sense | 12:59 |
| lupine_85 | AIUI, the desktop-effects app is where it's all happening | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | well the point is that it would be nice to be able to graphically define autostart | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | not having to create a script for this | 12:59 |
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| lupine_85 | yeah. Doing it in desktop-effects ("enable/disable") might be the best way to go about it. | 01:00 |
| lupine_85 | we're explicitly not allowed to have beryl-manager starting by default, however ;) | 01:00 |
| lupine_85 | so a beryl --replace command with aquamarine --replace in the window decoration plugin is the way to go | 01:01 |
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| Tonio_ | lupine_85: hum, as compiz is the defalt choice..... indeed that makes sense | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: should eventually beryl confict with compiz ? | 01:01 |
| Burgwork | no | 01:01 |
| Fujitsu | Urgh, no. | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | I guess starting both at the same time creates a hudge mess no ? :) | 01:01 |
| lupine_85 | nope | 01:01 |
| lupine_85 | nah, whichever gets started second is the one that you end up using | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: ho nice :) | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | I thought that would create a pure mess in fact | 01:02 |
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| Tonio_ | I'm waiting for kde4 kwin in fact ;) | 01:02 |
| lupine_85 | mm, me too | 01:02 |
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| so1 | does someone know why the qtcurve-* packages are missing in feisty? | 01:06 |
| so1 | I used them in edgy to make kde not to look that ugly ... | 01:06 |
| Tonio_ | it is always a pleasure to help someone insulting your work ;) | 01:08 |
| so1 | ooops, are you the designer of the default themes of kde? | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | so1: not exactly, but I know the design team, and I helped on that part too :) | 01:09 |
| so1 | good to know ... | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | okay seems to be removed indeed.... let's find why | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | so1: next time just say you really don't like it :) | 01:10 |
| so1 | but looking at it, it seems the problem is more with how the widgets are drawn ... lines everywhere ... don't like it | 01:10 |
| so1 | ^thought the same :-) | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=qtcurve | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | looks like the package has been removed | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | or renamed | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | why searching for qtcurve leads to this one ? | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | strange....... | 01:12 |
| so1 | mhh | 01:12 |
| so1 | The Klearlook widget style for KDE | 01:12 |
| so1 | Klearlook is a widget style for KDE that is based off | 01:12 |
| so1 | the QtCurve style. As its name suggests, it is intended | 01:12 |
| so1 | to be a KDE replica of the GTK theme "Clearlooks". | 01:12 |
| so1 | Homepage: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31717 | 01:12 |
| so1 | maybe it searches the descriptions too ... | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | hum it probably replaced qtcurve as this one is maintained | 01:13 |
| === lupine_85 pwns his system to look like RiscOS | ||
| so1 | weird ... I don't find qtcurve in debian at all ... | 01:14 |
| so1 | ok lets looks at it | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: argh!, why not reactos ? :) | 01:14 |
| joejaxx | lupine_85: lol | 01:14 |
| lupine_85 | I loved RiscOS | 01:14 |
| lupine_85 | 'though RiscOS never had wobbly windows, that I remember... :D | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: well I loved beos, but now I admit that would be quite ugly today | 01:15 |
| so1 | http://download.tuxfamily.org/lnxteam/packages/QtCurve/ | 01:16 |
| so1 | qtcurve seems to be here ... | 01:16 |
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| joejaxx | Tonio_: not really :P | 01:17 |
| so1 | ok, qtcurve seems to be maintained | 01:20 |
| so1 | last update on kde-look.org was from yesterday | 01:21 |
| so1 | author seems to plan a kde4 port | 01:21 |
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| esaym | what the deal with all the automake packages? there is automake 1.4 through 1.9 | 01:31 |
| esaym | should I install them all? | 01:31 |
| geser | no, only the needed version (perferable the last one) | 01:31 |
| geser | there are automake files around which don't work with the recent versions | 01:32 |
| esaym | I got an error with AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE in a configure.in script btw... | 01:32 |
| esaym | hmm | 01:32 |
| esaym | so maybe I should try ininstalling the 1.4 version and installing the 1.9 version? | 01:32 |
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| esaym | grr, anyone got a clue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11781/ | 01:51 |
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| zoli2k | Hi! I have problem with apache on a live usb distro derived from edgy. | 01:52 |
| zoli2k | apache 2 stops work when edgy is booted from usb | 01:53 |
| zoli2k | it simply does not forward jpg images and css files | 01:53 |
| Fujitsu | zoli2k: This isn't a support channel. | 01:54 |
| zul | zoli2k: not a support channel | 01:54 |
| zoli2k | But probably the #ubuntu channel is not the right place for development questions. | 01:55 |
| Fujitsu | That's not a development question... | 01:55 |
| zoli2k | I develop this usb distro based on edgy | 01:56 |
| zoli2k | and my problem is probably connected with the casper package | 01:56 |
| Fujitsu | It's a support question if Apache is not working. | 01:56 |
| zoli2k | which I use with cow filesystem enabled | 01:57 |
| zoli2k | probably this made the apache unusable | 01:57 |
| zoli2k | so it is not an apache specific question | 01:58 |
| esaym | man my head hurts | 01:59 |
| keescook | ajmitch: ping | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | keescook: pong! | 02:01 |
| zoli2k | Only I hope, somebody can tell me if it is possible that casper in persistent mode may yield to problems with other packages. | 02:01 |
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| Fujitsu | keescook: When you have time, can you please have a look at the patch that I attached to bug #94238 a while ago? | 02:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 94238 in mpd "MPD Critical bug, please update to 0.12.2" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94238 | 02:02 |
| keescook | ajmitch: so, I'm really late with this, but I'd like to get apparmor into universe. I've been working with the suse guys, and I have a nice package that's all build and tested. it has no external dependencies, does it have a chance for newpackagefreeze exception? | 02:02 |
| Fujitsu | We're officially closed as of beta freeze... But you could ask. | 02:02 |
| ajmitch | keescook: doesn't it require kernel changes, or can it be built as separate modules? | 02:02 |
| keescook | Fujitsu: ah! yeah, I mean to get to that. | 02:02 |
| keescook | ajmitch: correct. It's totally external (the modules get installed via m-a) | 02:03 |
| ajmitch | you'd have to do some fast talking, since it's not just me you'd need to convince :) | 02:03 |
| keescook | ajmitch: right, I realize that; who else do I need to convince? I figure I can talk to pitti to help get it through NEW | 02:03 |
| ajmitch | dholbach, other motu-uvf people | 02:04 |
| ajmitch | as Fujitsu said, we're well into freeze time now | 02:04 |
| Fujitsu | I think it sounds OK, but I don't have any bearing on anything. | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | freeze can be broken, for stuff that's deemed important enough | 02:05 |
| keescook | right, cool. I just wanted to test the waters. :) | 02:05 |
| ajmitch | plus it's not just j.random package on revu, I guess | 02:06 |
| keescook | though, ironically, I uploaded it to REVU just so people could stare at it. ;) | 02:07 |
| ajmitch | hah | 02:07 |
| ajmitch | it'd probably make iwj happier than selinux would ;) | 02:07 |
| keescook | *rofl* | 02:08 |
| keescook | I don't think anyone picky is happy with any MAC solutions. :) | 02:08 |
| Amaranth | so... | 02:08 |
| Amaranth | compiz and beryl are remerging | 02:08 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 02:08 |
| ajmitch | so I saw | 02:09 |
| Amaranth | offtopic but i have to tell everyone :) | 02:09 |
| ajmitch | it was already announced here :) | 02:09 |
| Amaranth | can we leave beryl in universe now? ;) | 02:09 |
| lupine_85 | Amaranth: it, like, so got dugg | 02:09 |
| Amaranth | lupine_85: you're kidding | 02:09 |
| lupine_85 | nope | 02:09 |
| lupine_85 | http://digg.com/linux_unix/Beryl_to_re_merge_with_Compiz_soon | 02:09 |
| lupine_85 | front page and everything | 02:09 |
| ajmitch | why are you surprised? | 02:09 |
| ajmitch | digg covers all sorts of inane crap ;) | 02:09 |
| lupine_85 | heh, true enough | 02:09 |
| esaym | is there a substitute for AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE? Or what do I need to have installed to that make can run the ./configure | 02:10 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:14 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch: What do you think of a UVFe to fix bug #30344? It's currently completely unusable, and has been for a couple of releases. | 02:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 30344 in gaphor "Gaphor doesn't start" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30344 | 02:15 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: sounds sane enough | 02:16 |
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| ajmitch | keescook: you may as well file a bug about apparmour & get feedback from the others - it's probably still a possibility | 02:17 |
| keescook | ajmitch: okay, I'll do that, thanks! | 02:17 |
| === bddebian bows to ajmitch | ||
| ajmitch | bddebian: ? | 02:20 |
| bddebian | I bow to your greatness! :-) | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | you're insane | 02:21 |
| ajmitch | CVS really sucks, btw | 02:21 |
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| ajmitch | fedora people should stop using cvs | 02:21 |
| esaym | rofl | 02:21 |
| bddebian | cvs r0x j00!! | 02:21 |
| esaym | I got to learn fc to help students at school install it | 02:22 |
| esaym | and I am a student | 02:22 |
| ajmitch | many other projects have moved onto svn at least | 02:22 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Not Hurd ;-P | 02:22 |
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| lupine_85 | I thought Hurd was engraved onto stone tablets? | 02:22 |
| Fujitsu | CVS does suck, that's why SVN exists. | 02:22 |
| Fujitsu | lupine_85: That too. | 02:23 |
| lupine_85 | hence the slow progress... making commits involved chisels ;) | 02:23 |
| bddebian | lupine_85: Nah we moved to punch cards about 5 years ago ;-P | 02:23 |
| lupine_85 | ah, good stuff :) | 02:23 |
| zul | at least their crack is public | 02:23 |
| lupine_85 | the storage costs must have been immense | 02:23 |
| lupine_85 | stone tablets over ip... now there's a thought | 02:24 |
| bddebian | Damn I'm a crackhead :-( | 02:24 |
| zul | umm..ok | 02:26 |
| Fujitsu | geser: Shouldn't those sync requests be confirmed? | 02:35 |
| bddebian | I don't know why I'm worrying about libticalcs2 when I pretty much have no way of getting tilp2 in at this point :'-( | 02:38 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: for the same reason I'm caring about other stuff I'm doing which won't see feisty | 02:40 |
| bddebian | Well I could have made it but like an idiot I was trying to do it in succession so all the build-deps were getting in the archive before uploading the next package :-( | 02:41 |
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| ajmitch | you'll live | 02:46 |
| bddebian | Nooo... I'm withering away as I type here... | 02:48 |
| welshbyte | so what goes on around here after beta freeze? | 02:48 |
| ajmitch | shame | 02:50 |
| ajmitch | welshbyte: lots & lots of bug fixing | 02:50 |
| welshbyte | ah, same as usual then :) | 02:51 |
| ajmitch | we don't give up at beta release :) | 02:51 |
| welshbyte | i know, i was just wondering how the fixes got in once it's frozen | 02:52 |
| ajmitch | same as usual, we upload stuff | 02:52 |
| ajmitch | it's not completely frozen yet | 02:52 |
| ajmitch | that happens a few days before final release | 02:52 |
| welshbyte | ah ok :) | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | anyone about that can test something for me on feisty? | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | if you download a file with right click ->L save target as, and then change directory with the bookmarks on the left, do you lose the filename? | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | (in firefox) | 02:54 |
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| crimsun | yay, after a day of hacking, this laptop's fully functional | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | well done | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | that was impressively fast | 03:02 |
| crimsun | now I'm going to celebrate my birthday by going to sleep | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | finally, I can type 'make' | 03:02 |
| zul | heh | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | night crimsun | 03:02 |
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| ajmitch | while it does that, I'm out for food :) | 03:03 |
| jetsaredim | is there any way to find out if a switch from edgy to feisty will cause problems before actually doing it? | 03:03 |
| crimsun | "sort of" | 03:04 |
| jetsaredim | like if repos you were using for edgy aren't there or something odd like that | 03:04 |
| crimsun | try the beta live cd | 03:04 |
| jetsaredim | hmm | 03:04 |
| jetsaredim | but that doesn't really tell you if anything will break cause that's like a fresh install vs upgrade | 03:04 |
| jetsaredim | know what i mean | 03:05 |
| crimsun | sure | 03:06 |
| jdong | jetsaredim: but it's still a good practice to check the beta livecd. | 03:06 |
| crimsun | OTOH, that's your closest ismulation | 03:06 |
| crimsun | bcm43xx sucks, btw | 03:06 |
| jdong | jetsaredim: we had one person in another support channel skip that step and end up with an unbootable kernel. | 03:07 |
| jetsaredim | awesome | 03:07 |
| jetsaredim | so try the herd 5 cd? | 03:07 |
| jdong | beta | 03:07 |
| jdong | beta is out. | 03:07 |
| jdong | check distrowatch | 03:07 |
| jetsaredim | ah | 03:07 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Do you have any way to tag notes on your RC bug page? | 03:09 |
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| bddebian | whoa I missed that it's crimsun's b-day?? | 03:18 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | whoa | 03:22 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Happy Birthday, crimsun! | 03:23 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Where'd you go darn it? :) | 03:26 |
| esaym | what would be a good section on the forum to ask about some troubles I am having while trying to compile a program? | 03:28 |
| esaym | there really needs to be a development section or something.... | 03:29 |
| jdong | esaym: Programming might work. | 03:29 |
| esaym | thats what I was thinking | 03:29 |
| esaym | everything else seems resctriced | 03:29 |
| jdong | forum # 39 | 03:29 |
| jdong | http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=39 | 03:29 |
| jdong | esaym: nothing should be restricted.... you must be a member to post, that's the only restriction | 03:29 |
| esaym | well yea, but what I ment was that it could not be put into the backports section | 03:30 |
| esaym | because that is official stuff only | 03:30 |
| jdong | esaym: you should be able to post in there. | 03:31 |
| esaym | Yea I can post, but the stickied thread said that section was for official programs only | 03:32 |
| jdong | esaym: hmm well I've done a very bad job of keeping stickes up to date then :) | 03:33 |
| esaym | well I am going to stick it in programming anyway | 03:34 |
| esaym | thats the error I am getting btw http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11781/ | 03:35 |
| jdong | programming form is probably best for that | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: aquamarine died on all arches. did you test build that before uploading? | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | in a clean chroot / pbuilder? | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | needs a build-dep on automake-1.9 | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | not a recommends | 03:36 |
| esaym | Hobbsee: you talking to me? | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | esaym: no, lupine_85 | 03:36 |
| esaym | oh :( | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | esaym: you'd have to post the configure file somewhere too. | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | ./configure: line 1443: syntax error near unexpected token `soundkonverter,' | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | ./configure: line 1443: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(soundkonverter, 0.3.1)' | 03:37 |
| esaym | yea I am going to make a thread about it | 03:37 |
| crimsun | probably needs at least an autoreconf | 03:38 |
| esaym | it is like auto make is screwed up or something | 03:38 |
| bddebian | do be do be doo | 03:38 |
| esaym | what is autoreconf? | 03:38 |
| esaym | a file? | 03:38 |
| bddebian | autoreconf -f -i | 03:38 |
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| bddebian | instead of having to do: aclocal autoheader automake | 03:39 |
| bddebian | I think :-) | 03:39 |
| esaym | I was using dpkg-buildpackage | 03:40 |
| esaym | make gives the same error though | 03:40 |
| bddebian | You would need to autoreconf before bulding the package | 03:40 |
| bddebian | It generates new configure and makefile "stuff" | 03:41 |
| esaym | so autoreconf -f -i and then do dpkg-buildpackage? | 03:41 |
| bddebian | I think that's what they are saying but I have barely been paying attention :) | 03:41 |
| esaym | hmm, same error, only in configure.in | 03:42 |
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| bddebian | Actually it looks like AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(pkg, version) is deprecated, you might want to take a look at that | 03:44 |
| esaym | but how can the package name be deprecated (soundkonverter)? | 03:45 |
| Fujitsu | esaym: soundkonverter is already packaged.... Why are you compiling it? | 03:46 |
| esaym | for fun, and for dapper | 03:46 |
| esaym | the one on dapper is beta | 03:46 |
| bddebian | esaym: No, just the use of package and version in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE() is deprecated | 03:47 |
| bddebian | http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/html_node/Public-macros.html | 03:47 |
| bddebian | But that may or may not be your problem | 03:47 |
| esaym | interesting, so the author could be using old stuff? | 03:50 |
| bddebian | possible | 03:50 |
| bddebian | did it build-dep on an early version of automake? | 03:50 |
| bddebian | damnit, where did ajmitch go?? | 03:51 |
| === welshbyte makes the ftbfs-tagged bug list 2 bugs smaller | ||
| bddebian | w00t, go welshbyte | 03:52 |
| === bddebian picks his nose | ||
| welshbyte | w00t, go bddebian | 03:52 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:52 |
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| joejaxx | hello all | 04:07 |
| joejaxx | :) | 04:07 |
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| bddebian | Heya joejaxx | 04:09 |
| joejaxx | hello bddebian | 04:09 |
| joejaxx | how are you? | 04:09 |
| bddebian | OK thanks, you? | 04:13 |
| joejaxx | that is good | 04:13 |
| joejaxx | i am well at the moment | 04:13 |
| esaym | well there's the thread, man I am burned out for today http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391970 | 04:13 |
| ajmitch | hello joejaxx | 04:21 |
| joejaxx | hello ajmitch | 04:22 |
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| joejaxx | ajmitch: how are you? | 04:22 |
| joejaxx | rexbron: :P | 04:22 |
| ajmitch | alright | 04:22 |
| joejaxx | that is good | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | trying to get something built | 04:23 |
| joejaxx | me too | 04:23 |
| StevenK | #95321: suspend/resume (RAM) fails for usb rootfs | 04:23 |
| rexbron | hey joejaxx | 04:23 |
| jdong | bug 95321 | 04:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 95321 in Ubuntu "suspend/resume (RAM) fails for usb rootfs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95321 | 04:23 |
| StevenK | Hrm. I thought the suspend/resume scripts removed the hcd drivers. | 04:23 |
| === ajmitch should just get bddebian to fix it | ||
| jdong | StevenK: yeah I can confirm that for sure :) | 04:23 |
| jdong | StevenK: but I expect that was a limitation of Linux.... | 04:23 |
| jdong | StevenK: presumably too much of the system unthaws before the usb block device is reprobed. | 04:24 |
| jdong | but I'm not an ACPI guy.... | 04:24 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: bah, I can't fix anything.. :-( | 04:25 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: BTW, you have any way to make notes on your RC bug page? | 04:25 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch: f-spot bugs | 04:27 |
| Burgundavia | can I close needs info from more than 6 months?' | 04:27 |
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| ajmitch | Burgundavia: depends on the bug | 04:28 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch: old crashers were you pinged the user in sept 2006 | 04:29 |
| ajmitch | ok | 04:29 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I was going to | 04:29 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Well libembperl-perl won't build because it wants a newer apache2-prefork-dev than we have :-( | 04:33 |
| StevenK | Oh my. I was just discussing that package in #debian-devel | 04:34 |
| StevenK | Haven't we deja'd this vu? | 04:34 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: that's a shame | 04:34 |
| Burgundavia | is there any place in Ubuntu that lists bugs by package? | 04:38 |
| Burgundavia | s/ubuntu/lp/ | 04:38 |
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| Hobbsee | Burgundavia: uh, launchpad | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | ya, I caught that | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | tired | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | Burgundavia: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<source package>/+bugs | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | work was hell today. bloody alarm tech cut half the wiring in the building | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | ugh | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | Hobbsee: no, I want a list of all packages and numbers of bugs, in a table | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | Burgundavia: ahhh... | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | Burgundavia: oh, that... | 04:40 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, who is Matt Proud | 04:40 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 04:40 |
| Hobbsee | Burgundavia: if you can find a team that's a package contact for all bugs, you can use https://beta.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | 04:40 |
| Burgundavia | right | 04:40 |
| Hobbsee | dont know of any other way | 04:40 |
| StevenK | launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs gives you all open bugs | 04:42 |
| Burgundavia | that isn't helpful | 04:42 |
| Burgundavia | ugh | 04:42 |
| StevenK | Burgundavia: Then you can search for all Universe with a bitesize tag or so. | 04:43 |
| bddebian | StevenK: Which package, libembperl-perl? | 04:44 |
| StevenK | bddebian: Yup | 04:44 |
| bddebian | heh | 04:44 |
| bddebian | Could probably drop the build-dep ver for apache2-prefork-dev to 3.2 but I haven't tried it | 04:44 |
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| ajmitch | bddebian: you requested a sync of ldap-account-manager 1.2.0, when 1.1.1-2 has the security fix | 04:55 |
| ajmitch | (testing-proposed-updates vs unstable) | 04:55 |
| bddebian | Huh? | 04:57 |
| bddebian | Oh | 04:58 |
| bddebian | Why not just get the latest? | 04:58 |
| ajmitch | why get the latest? | 04:58 |
| bddebian | So reject it | 04:59 |
| ajmitch | it's just hard to justify to everyone involved why it should go in, apart from it being newer | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | changelog wasn't particularly informative | 05:01 |
| bddebian | No worries, I just misread the page, so reject it | 05:01 |
| === bddebian is easily confused by so many numbers :) | ||
| StevenK | bddebian: 7 14 92 12 8 54 4 | 05:02 |
| bddebian | aaaahhh | 05:02 |
| jdong | StevenK: how'd you get my calc exam grades! | 05:03 |
| StevenK | jdong: Lucky guess | 05:03 |
| jdong | argh well you're not gettin my jackpot | 05:03 |
| StevenK | jdong: Your backport bugs? You can keep those. :-P | 05:03 |
| jdong | lol | 05:03 |
| === bddebian goes back to doing nothing | ||
| ajmitch | bddebian: ok, enjoy | 05:05 |
| bddebian | Egads gnucash | 05:07 |
| racarr | when does archive freeze end? | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | 24 hrs, apparently | 05:10 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 05:10 |
| === ajmitch digs around for a laptop | ||
| Hobbsee | hi aj | 05:12 |
| keescook | ajmitch: okay, bug 95334 is ready. | 05:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 95334 in Ubuntu "freeze exception: new package apparmor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95334 | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | k, thanks | 05:14 |
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| keescook | siretart, crimsun: I gotta beg you guys on that bug too. :) | 05:21 |
| === ajmitch gets hacking on an initramfs policy loader for selinux | ||
| keescook | sweet | 05:22 |
| ajmitch | should have done it long ago | 05:22 |
| joejaxx | has anyone here installed ubuntu on a computer with a pci2ide card? | 05:32 |
| joejaxx | pci2ata i should say | 05:32 |
| crimsun | keescook: looks good to me, +1 | 05:33 |
| joejaxx | ajmitch: :) | 05:33 |
| TheMuso | joejaxx: Yes. | 05:34 |
| TheMuso | I have two machines running off two such cards here. | 05:34 |
| TheMuso | I did an install of the beta yesterday on one of them, with no problems. | 05:34 |
| joejaxx | TheMuso: yeah it is messing up for me | 05:34 |
| TheMuso | joejaxx: What chipset? | 05:34 |
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| joejaxx | TheMuso: i would have to look | 05:35 |
| TheMuso | Both mine are silicon image chipsets. | 05:35 |
| joejaxx | TheMuso: i would have to look | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | As you said. | 05:36 |
| joejaxx | but the problem is | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | Do you have a custom setup such as LVM/Software RAID? | 05:36 |
| joejaxx | i installed ubuntu restarted and was dropped to a busybox shell | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | Oh and how is it messing up? | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | Probably its got the wrong root. | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | root device even. | 05:36 |
| joejaxx | TheMuso: nope not yet | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | ok | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | If you know the module it uses, at least you can attempt to load that module using the shell and see what device nodes are created. | 05:37 |
| joejaxx | TheMuso: it recognizes the drives | 05:37 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 05:38 |
| joejaxx | i installed ubuntu to the drive on the mobo ide0 | 05:38 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: That one OK? :) | 05:38 |
| joejaxx | not the pci2ata one | 05:38 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 05:38 |
| TheMuso | I have seen similar behavior before, and would say that the kernel is being given the wrong root device. | 05:39 |
| keescook | crimsun: sweet, thanks. | 05:39 |
| TheMuso | Mind you, since UUIDs are used now, I am not so sure about that. | 05:39 |
| joejaxx | yeah | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: sorry? | 05:40 |
| TheMuso | You could mount the root device from busybox, and let the boot continue. Once into the install, rebuild initramfs/reconfigure grub. | 05:40 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Never mind, I'm being a smart ass | 05:42 |
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| ajmitch | fine | 05:44 |
| keescook | crimsun, ajmitch: it's not clear to me how many motu-uvf's I need to ACK the exception? the 2007-02-23 meeting notes don't make it clear. | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | keescook: 2. | 05:45 |
| keescook | Hobbsee: okay, cool. Then I'll poke ajmitch some more. :) | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | keescook: :) | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | keescook: take the cluebat, though. you may need it | 05:47 |
| keescook | Hobbsee: uh-oh. what'd I miss? | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | keescook: for uvfe's :) | 05:49 |
| ajmitch | keescook: what should we set the going rate at? | 05:49 |
| keescook | they have lots of wine in seville, right? :) | 05:50 |
| ajmitch | heh | 05:50 |
| === ajmitch is happy enough with it | ||
| ajmitch | it'd be good to have in universe for now & have some feedback for feisty+1 | 05:51 |
| keescook | ajmitch: that's why I've been cramming to try and get it in. :) | 05:51 |
| Burgundavia | you see Novell did another NIH with thin clients? | 05:51 |
| keescook | it's not perfect, and needs more packages (libapparmor, etc etc) but this gets basic functionality. | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1241507,00.html | 05:52 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: nope, what did they do? | 05:52 |
| bddebian | NIH? | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | not invented here | 05:52 |
| bddebian | ah | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | a derogatory term for people developing their own solution before looking around them | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | Novell is really bad at it | 05:52 |
| keescook | ajmitch, crimsun: okay, so that's a confirmation? should I go ahead and upload it so Mithrandir can beat me over the head with the NEW stick? | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | keescook: I'm sure he'll be nice about it | 05:53 |
| keescook | heh | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | now I think iwj offered to help with source NEW recently.. | 05:53 |
| keescook | cool | 05:53 |
| crimsun | keescook: sure, paste the irc log in a comment just to be thorough | 05:53 |
| keescook | crimsun: okay, thanks. | 05:53 |
| tonyyarusso | Say, anyone know who the contact for the 'ati' driver is? | 05:55 |
| crimsun | triaging contact? upstream contact? upstream upstream contact? | 05:56 |
| tonyyarusso | Erm, "It got borked in recent Feisty updates and is seriously crummy atm; wondering if you have any idea why?" contact. | 05:57 |
| crimsun | that's the first. | 05:57 |
| crimsun | It'll get to the correct person automatically when filed against the correct source package | 05:58 |
| tonyyarusso | Ah, cool. | 05:58 |
| === tonyyarusso hits LP | ||
| crimsun | (Timo) tepsi.pakki cares for them, generally | 05:58 |
| crimsun | (fullstop intentional) | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock! | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | hi guys | 06:03 |
| bddebian | heya LaserJock | 06:03 |
| bddebian | Now, gnight folks :-) | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | man, you're leaving? | 06:03 |
| bddebian | Was planning on it, you need something? | 06:04 |
| ajmitch | bye bddebian | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: nah, just sad to see you go ;-) | 06:04 |
| === ajmitch wonders if samba & openldap will do a split config file | ||
| LaserJock | I had a meeting this morning, took the car to the shop, and drove to my grandpa's house | 06:05 |
| bddebian | Heh, thx LaserJock, glad someone thinks so :-) | 06:05 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I care | 06:05 |
| ajmitch | aw | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | so I haven't done anything *buntu today | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: gotta be quick | 06:05 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 06:05 |
| ajmitch | oh good, slapd.conf at least allows doing include /path/to/file | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | I wonder if it can include all files in a directory | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | hm even better | 06:07 |
| ajmitch | 2.3 lets it be in the directory itself | 06:07 |
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| LaserJock | hmmm, SoC applications | 06:29 |
| ajmitch | hm? | 06:33 |
| === ajmitch is unable to see any SoC applications, for obvious reasons ;) | ||
| LaserJock | I finally got my mentorship app approved | 06:34 |
| ajmitch | ah sweet | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | I see 81 applications | 06:34 |
| welshbyte | is my patch on bug #71753 usable at all? | 06:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 71753 in xpdf "Incorrect path in man page" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71753 | 06:43 |
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| welshbyte | i just used it as an excuse to relearn the packaging/patching tools | 06:44 |
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| racarr | Hi RAOF | 06:49 |
| RAOF | Howdie | 06:49 |
| RAOF | Got anyone more knowlegeable than me to review your desktop-effects yet? | 06:50 |
| racarr | no but it's been suggested that I just patch the C version for now | 06:50 |
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| racarr | and replace it with the python version in feisty+1 | 06:51 |
| racarr | so I'll do that later tonight | 06:51 |
| RAOF | Yeah, I can sympathise with that. | 06:51 |
| racarr | also, PM | 06:51 |
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| RAOF | racarr: Ping? PM? | 07:10 |
| racarr | RAOF: Eh? | 07:11 |
| racarr | What I meant was I had sent you a few PMs and you didn't seem to have noticed | 07:11 |
| RAOF | I was just wondering whether you'd seen any of the PM spam I've been sending you :) | 07:11 |
| racarr | err | 07:11 |
| racarr | no | 07:11 |
| racarr | none at all | 07:11 |
| RAOF | Oh, that's not good. | 07:12 |
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| imbrandon | zomg | 07:16 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: ? | 07:16 |
| imbrandon | i'm busy as hell atm and cant make an educated statement on beryl atm, but just "wtf" | 07:17 |
| imbrandon | a new name again ? | 07:17 |
| imbrandon | if they wanna merge do it under the name compiz | 07:17 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I didn't catch that. What happened? | 07:17 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock, read planet | 07:17 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: of course, it's a new week | 07:17 |
| imbrandon | i gotta fix a damn raid container at work, i'll be back in a few | 07:17 |
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| racarr | LaserJock: Basically a few of us have been trying to merge with Compiz under a new name for around a month now | 07:21 |
| racarr | LaserJock: And Quinn finally came around to it, which is good because she was the only one not for it | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 07:23 |
| nixternal | oi | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | seems like having a 3rd name is kinda mesy | 07:24 |
| imbrandon | racarr, i'm all for it too but he should work with the original project to merge under the name compiz, what they forked from, thats how it works | 07:24 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: just name it CrAp | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: now now | 07:24 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:24 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, ... | 07:24 |
| nixternal | ..., nodnarbmi | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | lol | 07:24 |
| racarr | imbrandon: It's a bit different than that | 07:25 |
| nixternal | man, that was tough this late at night | 07:25 |
| racarr | imbrandon: 1. This isn't Beryl deciding they don't want to be a fork anymore, it's as much of an effort from Compiz as from Beryl. | 07:25 |
| racarr | and 2. The community is uncomfortable with just folding in under the name Compiz, as most everything from Beryl will be merged in to the new project | 07:26 |
| racarr | which means the codebase will be about 2/3rds Beryl, and 1/3rd Compiz | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | but still, seems hard for users | 07:26 |
| nixternal | just change that big ol' red ruby/diamond icon is all I ask :) | 07:26 |
| Fujitsu | Anybody on feisty/amd64 who can test if bug #2382 is still present? | 07:27 |
| racarr | maybe, but theres a lot of hostility between our communities LaserJock, and I think if we merged under either of the existing names | 07:27 |
| === nixternal spins his cube | ||
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 2382 in mysql-query-browser "mySQL Query Browser segfaults on AMD64" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2382 | 07:27 |
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| racarr | that hostility would remain | 07:27 |
| LaserJock | well, I can understand | 07:27 |
| RAOF | Fujitsu: I'll have a look | 07:27 |
| LaserJock | it's just frustrating when we just got all the packages in the repos | 07:27 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks RAOF. We've got a tonne of old bugs :( | 07:27 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: oh, I didn't even think about that | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | racarr, no whats going to happen is some will still use compiz, some will use beryl and some will use this new hybrid | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | i've seen it before | 07:28 |
| racarr | LaserJock: Understandable | 07:28 |
| Ardekantur | Hello all - I'm having some trouble submitting a source package to REVU, could anyone help me? | 07:28 |
| racarr | imbrandon: Eh, I think that should fade pretty quickly because we can update all the repos that offer Beryl to use the new hybrid | 07:28 |
| racarr | site redirects, etc | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | you need to forget the animosity , get over it, and use one or the other, man this really really hit a nerve | 07:28 |
| RAOF | Fujitsu: Oh, looking at the actual bug I don't think I have a remote sql server to connect to. | 07:29 |
| imbrandon | racarr, not just ubuntu, the linux community in general | 07:29 |
| Hobbsee | Ardekantur: what problem? | 07:29 |
| imbrandon | brb | 07:29 |
| racarr | well yes but we can get the same thing done for gentoo, opensuse, etc easily | 07:29 |
| RAOF | Fujitsu: I don't suppose you've got a public test type server? | 07:29 |
| Fujitsu | RAOF: No, sorry. | 07:29 |
| RAOF | Hm. | 07:30 |
| RAOF | I'll see what I can do. | 07:30 |
| imbrandon | racarr, its not about a distro, its about the flimsy flip flop | 07:30 |
| nixternal | I don't think it as a huge issue, just merge, drop all of the old. leave a note at the old hotel saying we in this room now, please come here instead | 07:30 |
| Ardekantur | Hobbsee - I've registered in Launchpad, created a GPG key, signed the code of conduct, added myself to the universal contributor's group, retrieved the amulet of yendor, and I didn't get a notification when I dput my signed source binary | 07:30 |
| nixternal | however the packages that recently made it in is going to be the big pain | 07:30 |
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| Ardekantur | ~source package | 07:30 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: I'm happy that they're open to merging, at least | 07:30 |
| Hobbsee | Ardekantur: is it actually on revu? | 07:30 |
| imbrandon | racarr, i spent a week in the same room with Quinn trying to get him to do this 6 months ago at google | 07:30 |
| Hobbsee | Ardekantur: in the web interface? | 07:30 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, +1 | 07:31 |
| Ardekantur | Hobbsee, do you mean the front page of http://revu.tauware.de/ ? | 07:31 |
| Hobbsee | Ardekantur: yep | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | Ardekantur: yes | 07:31 |
| Ardekantur | no, fraid not | 07:31 |
| Ardekantur | the package name is asciidoc | 07:31 |
| === Hobbsee looks | ||
| Hobbsee | Ardekantur: did you get the keyring synced? | 07:32 |
| racarr | imbrandon: pm | 07:32 |
| Hobbsee | Ardekantur: er, how long ago did you uplaod this? | 07:32 |
| Ardekantur | Hobbsee, i'm not sure, and yesterday | 07:32 |
| LaserJock | Ardekantur: you need to make the package for feisty no unstable | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | *not | 07:33 |
| === ajmitch resynced the keyring earlier today | ||
| === ajmitch moves the .changes file back into the queue | ||
| Ardekantur | LaserJock - whoops :) should I try that and reupload to see if it shows up in five minutes? | 07:34 |
| ajmitch | no | 07:35 |
| ajmitch | wait about 1 minute & it should hopefully show | 07:35 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: it's ok to hae it unstable? | 07:35 |
| LaserJock | *have | 07:35 |
| ajmitch | hm no, looks like it rejected again | 07:35 |
| === ajmitch checks why | ||
| ajmitch | LaserJock: of course not, but it won't cause a reject | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | it won't? | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | I thought it rejected Debian releases | 07:36 |
| ajmitch | shouldn't do | 07:37 |
| Ardekantur | I wasn't sure what the version number should be, because it's a major version change of a package that was originally in Debian | 07:37 |
| Fujitsu | It's not intelligent enough to look at it, LaserJoc. | 07:37 |
| Fujitsu | *LaserJock | 07:37 |
| ajmitch | Ardekantur: ok, are you sure you joined the team on launchpad? | 07:38 |
| ajmitch | and that you have your gpg key on launchpad? | 07:38 |
| ajmitch | gpg: Signature made Thu 22 Mar 2007 12:03:16 PM EDT using DSA key ID 9EE43354 | 07:38 |
| ajmitch | gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found | 07:38 |
| ajmitch | given that I resynced the keyring about an hour ago, it should have picked up your one if it's on lp | 07:38 |
| Ardekantur | i don't remember which order I did things in :/ | 07:39 |
| ajmitch | lp username? | 07:39 |
| Ardekantur | ~mcs532 | 07:39 |
| ajmitch | heh | 07:40 |
| ajmitch | " Contributors of packages for ubuntu universe | 07:40 |
| ajmitch | Joined 57 minutes ago " | 07:40 |
| ajmitch | so you uploaded yesterday but only just joined | 07:41 |
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| Ardekantur | ajmitch, i figured if it saw that i joined it might retroactively do something | 07:43 |
| ajmitch | nope | 07:43 |
| ajmitch | not unless the upload is requeued manually | 07:43 |
| Ardekantur | ah | 07:44 |
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| ajmitch | Ardekantur: it should be there now | 07:49 |
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| Ardekantur | ajmitch, Yes! Very much so. Thanks for your time and help. | 07:50 |
| welshbyte | oops forgot to sleep, better get some caffeine in me | 07:56 |
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| keescook | aaah, sweet. feels good to get that mythtv update out. | 08:29 |
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| imbrandon | ahhh back to normal | 09:17 |
| imbrandon | or semi normal | 09:17 |
| imbrandon | anyone still awake , or just me ;) | 09:18 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, howd the unmet deps bug stuff go ? | 09:18 |
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| racarr | I'm mostly awake | 09:38 |
| racarr | :p | 09:38 |
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| imbrandon | ... | 11:04 |
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| Nafallo | imbrandon: do I have a jabberaccount on ubuntuwire.com? :-) | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | lemme look | 11:06 |
| === Nafallo tries to connect again :-) | ||
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| imbrandon | Nafallo, i just restarted the webui , on sec | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | one* | 11:10 |
| Nafallo | sure :-) | 11:10 |
| Nafallo | seems I can't connect to the server anyway :-/ | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | it shows you as online now | 11:10 |
| Nafallo | yea, now :-) | 11:10 |
| Nafallo | thanks :-) | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | 2 nafallo silverfairy Authenticated [User is connected via SSL] [Online] Online 50 83.xxx.xxx.x | 11:11 |
| imbrandon | okies | 11:11 |
| Nafallo | so who else is there? :-P | 11:11 |
| Nafallo | we should have a shared roaster with all MOTUs ;-) | 11:11 |
| Nafallo | or something :-) | 11:11 |
| imbrandon | atm only 6 people reconnected ( i ended up killhuping the server ) | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | yea i can make a MOTU group, but its kinda redundant with irc and all ;) | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | 194 accounts :) | 11:12 |
| Nafallo | oh. are we that many? :-) | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | on ubuntuwire , MOTU + coredev is only 72 | 11:13 |
| Nafallo | ah :-) | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | Nafallo, http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/acct-blah.txt | 11:15 |
| imbrandon | thats the motu + core-dev list | 11:15 |
| === Nafallo checks :-) | ||
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| ajmitch | evening | 11:22 |
| imbrandon | heya ajmitch | 11:22 |
| Nafallo | morning ajmitch :-) | 11:23 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, know if compact flash cards have the same limited write cycles that usb flash sticks have ? | 11:23 |
| === imbrandon considers a minimal ubuntu install on a 1gb compact flash card via ide an adapter | ||
| ajmitch | imbrandon: afaik they do | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | just mount stuff noatime, don't use a journal, etc | 11:25 |
| imbrandon | yea | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | though you may be ok with ext3 & a journal | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | flatmate has a box downstairs with ubuntu on a 1GB CF card | 11:26 |
| ajmitch | actually no, it's etch :) | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | cool, yea i have a p2 500 with heatsync and such, would be a nice no moving parts quite system | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | something just to goof with at home | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | not even sure what i would use it for | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | i have dhcp/dns/file/web server already | 11:27 |
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| imbrandon | ( for the house ) | 11:27 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:29 |
| ajmitch | the box he's using is a p166 | 11:29 |
| ajmitch | 64MB RAM | 11:29 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 11:29 |
| ajmitch | using it for uni stuff, to experiment with routing stuff | 11:29 |
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| imbrandon | yea this is a p2 500 with 128mb ram i just had arround | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | not even a case for it atm, just proc board,ram,power,cf+ide card | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:30 |
| ajmitch | he picked up 17 boxes I think | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | if i had the money i would get a mini-itx and make soemthing cool, maybe next payday | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | ex-uni that probably would have been thrown out | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | ;)\ | 11:34 |
| === ajmitch should really use ccache for this | ||
| imbrandon | yea i've been meaning to set ccache up on the buildd pbuilders | 11:35 |
| imbrandon | they are already pretty fast with the new gdebi script though ;) | 11:35 |
| ajmitch | oh that's easy | 11:35 |
| imbrandon | oh yea i know, i've done it 1000 times, just havent got to it there yet | 11:36 |
| === ajmitch has been meaning to get back to the sbuild/buildd setup | ||
| ajmitch | I'm not sure how well things will turn out with LVM snapshots | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | siretart has been having some issues still with snapshots | 11:36 |
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| imbrandon | that 160 is still in the server hooked up, just not mounted | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | if you need a testbed/drive | 11:37 |
| siretart | ajmitch: only in feisty :/ | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | aurora and intrepid are feisty | 11:37 |
| DarkSun88 | Hi | 11:37 |
| siretart | ajmitch: in edgy, things were working very fine. same in debian | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | hello | 11:37 |
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| ajmitch | siretart: worrying | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon has upgraded aurora to feisty :) | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | (iirc) | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | ah yes, you just mentioned that | 11:40 |
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| imbrandon | yea it was the easiest way to get lvm + gdebi pbuilders working right | 11:41 |
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| siretart | ajmitch: the bugs are reported in lp, but it seems that nobody really knows an answer. I'm not ever sure if it's udev, dm-setup or whatever which is being so racy :/ | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | without backporting a ton of cruft | 11:41 |
| siretart | ajmitch: I really do hope that new upstream versions of dm-setup, libdevmapper, udev and so on will fix things at the beginning of goofy | 11:42 |
| StevenK | Goofy!? | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | lol | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, shush | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:42 |
| StevenK | I'm *not* uploading to a release called goofy | 11:42 |
| siretart | ;) | 11:43 |
| siretart | StevenK: just a joke from my side. I have really no idea how feisty+1 will be called | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | hum i wonder how a uvf for swfdec would look post-beta ;) | 11:43 |
| Nafallo | siretart: I have that aswell :-) | 11:43 |
| siretart | imbrandon: nah, youtube sucks anyway.. | 11:44 |
| siretart | ;) | 11:44 |
| imbrandon | siretart, hahaha you had the same idea ? heh | 11:44 |
| siretart | isn't xine 1.1.4 able to decode flvs? | 11:44 |
| imbrandon | siretart, since you and StevenK are both -uvf ( correct ? ) you think its worth my time to prepare a diff and such ? | 11:44 |
| ajmitch | aha! | 11:45 |
| StevenK | Hrm. Didn't we have the same discussion for Feisty before it was named. | 11:45 |
| imbrandon | siretart, yea but its a pita | 11:45 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: I'm -sru, not -uvf | 11:45 |
| ajmitch | *finally* fixed the FDS build | 11:45 |
| ajmitch | 1 missing -D in the flags | 11:45 |
| imbrandon | ahh right StevenK | 11:45 |
| StevenK | Although it appears -sru doesn't exist, etc etc | 11:45 |
| imbrandon | who is -uvf? | 11:46 |
| siretart | -sru doesn't exist any longer | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | sru exists, i just did a mod-mono a few days ago ;) | 11:46 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: ^ | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | oh ? | 11:46 |
| siretart | imbrandon: http://launchpad.net/~motu-uvf | 11:46 |
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| imbrandon | how is there no sru ? | 11:47 |
| === imbrandon looks puzzled now | ||
| Hobbsee | procedure changed | 11:47 |
| imbrandon | i know but the new proceedures still call for a sru to upload | 11:47 |
| imbrandon | trust me i JUST did it , unless it changed again in the last 48 hours | 11:47 |
| === ajmitch thought that any MOTU could upload now | ||
| ajmitch | but I'm vague on it | 11:48 |
| ajmitch | which is a bad sign, since I'm meant to know | 11:48 |
| imbrandon | they can to -proposed, but the final upload must be done by sru per the new policy | 11:48 |
| imbrandon | to -updates | 11:49 |
| siretart | imbrandon: the new procedure is that you upload directly to -proposed and call for testing | 11:49 |
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| imbrandon | right, then once tested and 7days past, sru prepares an upload to -updates ( untill the souyz supports direct import ) | 11:49 |
| imbrandon | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU | 11:50 |
| Fujitsu | -sru ceased to exist some weeks ago. | 11:50 |
| Fujitsu | That page is wrong.. | 11:50 |
| Fujitsu | It hasn't been properly updated. | 11:50 |
| ajmitch | if someone could properly update it please | 11:51 |
| Fujitsu | I remember seeing in an email `motu-sru ceases to exist' | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | then fix it, because thats what we popint poeple to including myself that foloowed it two days ago | 11:51 |
| === Fujitsu locates the email and updates the page accordingly. | ||
| ajmitch | whoever *knows* what the agreed-on procedure is :) | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | yay, shiny toys for me to play with | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | hum, not having someone look over sru's , bwhahahaha i can now update gnome with an sru and my other two LP accounts ;) | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | bwhahahahaha world domination ;) | 11:52 |
| StevenK | Oh look, ajmitch is in Dubya mode | 11:52 |
| === ajmitch cackles | ||
| === imbrandon notes that page was updated 3 days ago | ||
| ajmitch | StevenK: I think you mean imbrandon is in dubya mode (world domination, etc) | 11:53 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: No, no... "Oh, I don't know what the procedure i ...... oooooh, shiny toys for me to play with!" | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: I've been trying to get this thing built for a few hours | 11:54 |
| siretart | ok, updated | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | but I got it going after I went out with friends & had a drink | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | see, beer solves all | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:55 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | siretart, thanks | 11:55 |
| === Fujitsu has no idea. | ||
| === StevenK quotes Fujitsu out of context. | ||
| === ajmitch tickles Hobbsee | ||
| imbrandon | time for a smoke, bbiab | 11:56 |
| === Hobbsee throws beans at ajmitch | ||
| === siretart off for shopping. cu later | ||
| imbrandon | l8tr siretart | 11:56 |
| === Fujitsu attacks StevenK with something. | ||
| Fujitsu | Bye siretart. | 11:56 |
| StevenK | Heh. Something. | 11:56 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you have a good throw to get them here | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: indeed. | 11:56 |
| Fujitsu | Well, I can't use Hobbsee's stick, or I get kicked... And there's nothing else around. | 11:56 |
| ajmitch | fun, some americans are still annoyed at NZ over the no nuclear weapons thing | 11:59 |
| === Fujitsu throws some nuclear weapons at ajmitch. | ||
| Fujitsu | See, they're so cool. | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | thanks, I can use these | 12:00 |
| === Fujitsu dodges them | ||
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| jekil | hi | 12:08 |
| Monk-e | hi | 12:08 |
| lupine_85 | Hobbsee: Tonio uploaded it, not me :/. is it still b0rken? | 12:09 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: 0ubuntu1 is. apparently 2 fixed it, but i've not seen that in the archive | 12:10 |
| === ajmitch laughs & starts an FDS build in pbuilder | ||
| ajmitch | this should be interesting | 12:10 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: not the source of it, nor the binary | 12:10 |
| === ajmitch wonders if beryl & compiz will be one by feisty release | ||
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: not our version, presumably. would take a while to merge. then again, if it's new, may as well be shoved in. | 12:11 |
| lupine_85 | hmm. wonder where that's gotton to, then | 12:11 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: seeing as bling doesnt obey freezes | 12:11 |
| Hobbsee | which would also negate a lot of the reviewing, which people wont be too impressed about | 12:12 |
| lupine_85 | 0.2 branch is quite different from master, so it makes sense to keep it in feisty | 12:12 |
| ajmitch | isn't most of the new stuff in beryl in the plugins? | 12:13 |
| lupine_85 | no | 12:13 |
| lupine_85 | Copy mode rendering, for instance... | 12:13 |
| ajmitch | if that can be merged in | 12:14 |
| ajmitch | & not rejected for being an ugly hack | 12:14 |
| lupine_85 | heh. It's a hack, but not really ugly | 12:14 |
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| ajmitch | iirc that was done at the last UDS | 12:14 |
| lupine_85 | just theoretically slower | 12:14 |
| ajmitch | theoretically more memory-hungry too, aiui | 12:15 |
| lupine_85 | yep... but people with terrible nVidia cards like it because it means they don't have to use Xgl | 12:15 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 12:15 |
| lupine_85 | there's a bunch of other stuff as well; we're going to try to get as much merged as possible I think | 12:15 |
| poningru | what? | 12:17 |
| poningru | beer? | 12:17 |
| poningru | someone said beer | 12:18 |
| Nafallo | lol | 12:18 |
| imbrandon | it would be scarry to see a bunch of ubuntu devs in a room drinking beer/whiskey and packaging , oh wait thats UDS :) | 12:18 |
| Nafallo | haha | 12:19 |
| lupine_85 | mmm whiskey | 12:19 |
| lupine_85 | Highland Park, I presume? | 12:20 |
| imbrandon | highly doubtfull , normaly what ever mdz shows up with ;) | 12:21 |
| lupine_85 | urgh, cheap whiskey :/ | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | no, not cheap | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | just his choice ;) | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | mmm, whiskey... | 12:21 |
| === ajmitch saw a new bottle downstairs today | ||
| === poningru much prefers port | ||
| ajmitch | but it was a birthday present for a flatmate | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | port can be nice | 12:22 |
| poningru | or vodka | 12:22 |
| poningru | mmm potato vodka | 12:22 |
| Nafallo | why did I read flamemate? :-) | 12:22 |
| lupine_85 | ah, ok | 12:23 |
| lupine_85 | as long as it's not Bell's, I guess :D | 12:23 |
| lupine_85 | so should I try to reupload aquamarine? It seems two others have, and the packages seem to be getting swallowed.... | 12:24 |
| === ajmitch looks at the build log & is unhappy | ||
| TomaszD | did anyone say vodka? | 12:24 |
| lupine_85 | cinnamon vodka! | 12:24 |
| === TomaszD is from Poland *hint* | ||
| === Fujitsu is happily alcohol-free (not that there's much choice in the matter) | ||
| StevenK | Fujitsu: s/happily // | 12:25 |
| StevenK | You're a teenager, you're supposed to be angst-ridden! | 12:25 |
| === Fujitsu angstily drops an anvil on StevenK. | ||
| TomaszD | cinnamon nah, currant vodka, now that's tasty | 12:26 |
| StevenK | It has no affect! | 12:26 |
| TomaszD | bbl | 12:26 |
| === StevenK has auto-compression-mode loaded. | ||
| Fujitsu | Damn damn damn. | 12:28 |
| Fujitsu | I should have thought of that. | 12:28 |
| Fujitsu | Too obvious. | 12:28 |
| StevenK | Don't try fire. Debian Developers are impervious to flame! | 12:28 |
| StevenK | :-P | 12:28 |
| Fujitsu | Hahah, true. | 12:28 |
| ajmitch | Debian Developers are creatures of fire | 12:31 |
| ajmitch | just don't feed the energy beast | 12:31 |
| StevenK | I'd rather slay Sven Luther, if it's all the same. | 12:31 |
| ajmitch | reminds me, I haven't topped up on my weekly dose of angst, hate & bile | 12:32 |
| ajmitch | aka debian-private | 12:32 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: I was thinking it was either -private or -devel | 12:32 |
| proppy | try iceweasel it's really efficient against creature of fire | 12:32 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: Don't bother. | 12:32 |
| === proppy hides | ||
| Fujitsu | Is it really as bad as everybody says? | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | nah | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | it's often tame & boring | 12:34 |
| StevenK | Fujitsu: Sometimes. Mostly, it's as ajmitch says. | 12:34 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 12:34 |
| StevenK | It's angsty, hatefilled this week, though. | 12:35 |
| === StevenK twitches. | ||
| === ajmitch wonders why pbuilder is not picking up packages in his bind-mounted repository | ||
| ajmitch | since it's apparantly running apt-get update without issues | 12:35 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch: It's picking up the bad vibes from -private. | 12:36 |
| === Hobbsee kicks the maths department | ||
| ajmitch | obviously | 12:36 |
| === ajmitch just wants pbuilder to use the new packages I made | ||
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: What has it done now? Scheduled critical stuff during UDS? | 12:36 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch: FDS? | 12:36 |
| StevenK | Fedora Directory Server | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: it's done that too, actually. broken http://rutherglen.ics.mq.edu.au/math235s107/ again - or let computing department control it, where they've broken it. | 12:37 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: yeah, I need FDS to use the mozilla ldap sdk | 12:37 |
| ajmitch | I see what it's doing - outdated Packages file | 12:37 |
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| ajmitch | Hobbsee: booked flights, got passport? | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | funny that I have to go to spain to see you again | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: no, and yes. | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: indeed. | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: i thought you'd want to avoid me like the plague :P | 12:38 |
| === StevenK sighs about UDS again. | ||
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: only if you carry the plague | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: heh | 12:39 |
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| === ajmitch wonders if he can sneak these packages into feisty past the freeze ;) | ||
| StevenK | You can try. :-) | 12:47 |
| Tonio_ | hi :) | 12:48 |
| ajmitch | hey Tonio_ | 12:48 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: yeah, it could be a challenge though | 12:48 |
| ajmitch | some of the packages are nowhere near ready | 12:49 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: You might need to get Mithrandir, mdz, pitti, seb128, Keybuk and cjwatson all drunk, too. | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | they're good enough to give me the basics for getting other stuff built | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | oh I just want them in universe | 12:49 |
| StevenK | Subvert the MOTU Council? | 12:49 |
| StevenK | It worked for Kubu... oh, wait. | 12:50 |
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| ajmitch | it's not like anyone will want to run FDS | 12:51 |
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| pef | hello | 12:51 |
| ajmitch | hi pef | 12:52 |
| lupine_85 | wootilicious, this version of aquamarine builds in pbuilder... how do I get it up? | 12:53 |
| imbrandon | make a debdiff and ask us to review/upload it :) | 12:53 |
| imbrandon | not REVU | 12:54 |
| lupine_85 | fair enuf. On Launchpad? | 12:55 |
| imbrandon | yup, i presume its fixing a bug ( even if its not filed yet ) | 12:55 |
| imbrandon | file/attache it to a bug and poke us ;) | 12:55 |
| imbrandon | brb smoke | 12:55 |
| lupine_85 | ftbfs bug :) | 12:56 |
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| racarr | lupine_85: The upload has already happened | 12:57 |
| racarr | but the archive is frozen so it's queued | 12:57 |
| racarr | we had a version on REVU that built in a pbuilder for a LONG time | 12:58 |
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| racarr | it's just whoever uploaded uploaded the wrong version of aquamarine | 12:58 |
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| lupine_85 | racarr: it's the git snapshot that got uploaded | 12:59 |
| racarr | well, the version uploaded builds in a pbuilder | 12:59 |
| lupine_85 | probably just the automake dependency | 12:59 |
| lupine_85 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aquamarine/+bug/95430 | 12:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 95430 in aquamarine "Aquamarine ftbfs " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:00 |
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| Tonio_ | lupine_85: isn't that resolved ? | 01:01 |
| lupine_85 | Tonio_: all the packages seem to be going into some black hole / freeze | 01:01 |
| ajmitch | bah! | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: oh right ubuntu beta isn't out... | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | I was lost because kubuntu beta is :) | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi doesn't appear to like running with unauthenticated repositories | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | lupine_85: yes we have to wait fo the end of the freeze | 01:02 |
| lupine_85 | ah right | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | beta is out, archive is still frozen in case of emergency post-beta fixes | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | should be unfrozen real soon now | 01:03 |
| lupine_85 | well, if all 3 of us uploaded fixes, at we're doing /something/ right :D | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch: ah ? I missed the announce then....... | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | lupine_85: not communicating? :) | 01:03 |
| lupine_85 | hehe, that too | 01:03 |
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| === imbrandon mutters too , not to be left out | ||
| === StevenK adds to the list of Debian contributions of 2006 thread on -project | ||
| StevenK | Four GRs, and enough bile and angst to fuel every single teenagers life for the next 3 years. | 01:27 |
| imbrandon | heh | 01:28 |
| ajmitch | that's a lot fg angst | 01:29 |
| lupine_85 | I stopped being a teenager recently, and didn't notice an appreciable loss of angst | 01:30 |
| lupine_85 | Dunno if that's a good or bad thing | 01:31 |
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| StevenK | That'd be Debian. | 01:34 |
| StevenK | Or something. | 01:34 |
| ajmitch | debian never really grows up | 01:37 |
| racarr | lupine_85: Yes it was the automake dependency but as I've said several times | 01:41 |
| racarr | theres already uploaded versions for ALL of the broken packages | 01:41 |
| racarr | it's just that archive is frozen | 01:41 |
| racarr | so they don't go in to archive until freeze comes up | 01:41 |
| StevenK | Or they are shoved in. | 01:46 |
| === ajmitch really should go & sleep | ||
| ajmitch | "just one more build of this" | 01:48 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 01:49 |
| === StevenK points ajmitch to Ministry - Just One Fix | ||
| ajmitch | so glad I'm not building on my old box | 01:50 |
| StevenK | Hrm. The lyrics of this song seem to describe building FDS. | 01:51 |
| imbrandon | workin aurora to death? hehe | 01:51 |
| StevenK | Life keeps slipping away ... Fighting in a war with damnation ... Poised, keep cutting away ... I'm looking in through to salvation | 01:51 |
| imbrandon | hrm does the ubuntu kernel have openmosix patches already ? | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: no, I'd rather not build this on aurora | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, ahh i was just teasin a bit | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | aurora is more for people not like me, since I have a fast box & high latency to the US :) | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | right right, i still use my home box to compile mostly, its for "MOTU" hehe | 01:55 |
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| imbrandon | hahah | 01:58 |
| StevenK | Argh! | 01:59 |
| StevenK | /dev/hda5 9.2G 8.8G 0 100% /home | 01:59 |
| vil | hi imbrandon | 02:03 |
| vil | siretart, helped me yesterday to get to aurora etc, but today aurora wants password again | 02:04 |
| vil | he also mentioned a bug in the importkeys script | 02:04 |
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| imbrandon | one second lemme check | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | vil, ahh yea i see the problem with the script , give me a few minutes to fix it up | 02:09 |
| imbrandon | vil, ok should be fixed for now, i will perminately fix it here in a few minutes | 02:12 |
| imbrandon | sorry about that | 02:12 |
| === vil thanks imbrandon | ||
| vil | no need to be sorry, i am really glad you host this service | 02:15 |
| imbrandon | :) | 02:16 |
| vil | imbrandon, well, i have yet another problem, that occured even yesterday | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | whats that > | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | ? | 02:16 |
| welshbyte | should i be setting bugs to "in progress" when i attach debdiffs to them? | 02:16 |
| vil | when i try to use pbuilder for eclipse, i get W: Unable to locate package liblucene-java | 02:16 |
| vil | imbrandon, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11846/ | 02:17 |
| vil | however, it builds ok elsewhere | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | vil, use pbuilder-$release | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | like pbuilder-feisty | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | "pbuilder-feisty build *.dsc" | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | no sudo needed | 02:18 |
| vil | imbrandon, cool, thanks again | 02:20 |
| imbrandon | np | 02:20 |
| vil | this is really a great service, i would really like to see it grow | 02:20 |
| vil | imbrandon, so is there a wiki page so that people get to know about it? or do you want to keep it in secret :) | 02:22 |
| vil | imbrandon, i can help with a wiki page | 02:24 |
| racarr | service? | 02:26 |
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| imbrandon | i dont keep it secret, and i have a placeholder for the page | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | just havent made one yet | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | racarr, i run a community build network so MOTU and core-dev have a machine to build on already setup with breezy,dapper,edgy,feisty,sid pbuilders | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | etc | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | on x86,ppc,sparc and soon amd64 | 02:27 |
| racarr | imbrandon: That's absurdely convenient | 02:27 |
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| racarr | so sounds like a good thing :) | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | :) | 02:28 |
| === StevenK ignores the convience by having his own x86, amd64 and sparc machines. | ||
| imbrandon | StevenK, hehe | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | now you have a ppc to play on ;) | 02:28 |
| StevenK | And the latency of ~1ms is unbeatable. :-P | 02:28 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | ugh i hate this | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, got a sec to help me with my script ? | 02:29 |
| vil | for me, when I have only an older x86 laptop and build java stuff, it is really useful | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | you bash guru you | 02:29 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Sure. | 02:30 |
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| StevenK | imbrandon: If you promise to not call me that again. :-P | 02:30 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 02:30 |
| imbrandon | ok one sec lemme pastbin my script and then my problem | 02:31 |
| imbrandon | ok here is the script , and it works mostly , but only a few corner cases it dosent | 02:31 |
| imbrandon | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11848/ | 02:31 |
| imbrandon | let me give you examples what i need to fix | 02:31 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: there are worse things he could call you | 02:31 |
| StevenK | MY EYES | 02:31 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: :-P | 02:32 |
| imbrandon | ok first off, when i wget the +sshkeys its in dos LF , so i dos2unix it | 02:32 |
| imbrandon | BUT | 02:32 |
| imbrandon | people like vil have https://beta.launchpad.net/~vil/+sshkeys | 02:32 |
| imbrandon | multi line +sshkeys | 02:33 |
| imbrandon | normalys i would just tr -d "\r\n" < vil.ssh > vil.ssh | 02:33 |
| imbrandon | but that screws people like me with multi keys | 02:33 |
| imbrandon | https://beta.launchpad.net/~imbrandon/+sshkeys | 02:33 |
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| === ajmitch waits for configure to fail | ||
| ajmitch | meh, missing sasl this time | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, see my issue ? | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | or did i make no sense | 02:35 |
| StevenK | I'm looking. | 02:35 |
| imbrandon | k | 02:35 |
| StevenK | Yes, I get it. | 02:35 |
| imbrandon | so basicly i just need to figure out how to sanitize all the +sshkeys | 02:36 |
| racarr | Would 'You should do this in perl/python' be a cliched solution? | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | racarr, will i was trying to KISS ;) | 02:36 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: The problem is, you need to parse the file. And doing that in shell will drive you mad. | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, yea i noticed ;) | 02:37 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: I do have a suggestion for the wget at the top. | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | ? | 02:37 |
| proppy | perl -pi ? | 02:37 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: wget -q -O - <url> >> /tmp/all.txt | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | umm how is that any better >? | 02:38 |
| racarr | You could probably use a few perl -es to sanitize the ssh keys... | 02:38 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: You save two cats. :-) | 02:38 |
| imbrandon | ohh so umm | 02:38 |
| StevenK | And duh. | 02:39 |
| StevenK | cat /tmp/motu.html /tmp/ubuntu-core-dev.html > /tmp/all.txt | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | heh | 02:39 |
| StevenK | cat does take multiple arguments. | 02:39 |
| StevenK | if [ -n "proceed" ] ; then | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | see i'm not a bash guy, ;) | 02:39 |
| StevenK | That will always work | 02:39 |
| StevenK | I think you need a $ there | 02:40 |
| racarr | what does dos2unix do? | 02:40 |
| imbrandon | ahh jesus | 02:40 |
| imbrandon | racarr, converts from dos line feeds to unix ones | 02:40 |
| StevenK | Like flip | 02:40 |
| racarr | ah, ok | 02:40 |
| StevenK | It can be done with tr, but imbrandon is lazy. :-P | 02:41 |
| imbrandon | heh | 02:41 |
| imbrandon | no imbrandon isnt a bash guru ;) | 02:41 |
| proppy | dos2unix == perl -pi -e 's/\r//' ? | 02:41 |
| StevenK | Sounds about right. | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | 's/\r\n/\n/' | 02:42 |
| StevenK | tr -d '\r' | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | all the same ;) | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | i normaly always install sysutils anyhow soooo | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | ok hrm | 02:42 |
| racarr | dos2unix is in tofrodos | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | to redo this in python or not | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | racarr, and sysutils depends on tofrodos | 02:43 |
| racarr | ewhich | 02:43 |
| racarr | right | 02:43 |
| racarr | ...just found that | 02:43 |
| racarr | heh | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | :) | 02:43 |
| racarr | I thought I had sysutils installed | 02:43 |
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| imbrandon | crap, this is gonna make me learn python | 02:44 |
| imbrandon | lol | 02:44 |
| === imbrandon grumbles | ||
| welshbyte | you don't really learn python, you just forget bits of other languages and you're there | 02:44 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: I know Python as well. | 02:44 |
| mr_pouit | pirast: ping (about uscpi-tcp) ? | 02:45 |
| racarr | I like python but think perl is better suited for replacing bash | 02:45 |
| racarr | replacing bash scripts | 02:45 |
| StevenK | racarr: Heathen! | 02:45 |
| imbrandon | perl == devil | 02:45 |
| imbrandon | i already maintain one perl script, not gonna another | 02:45 |
| imbrandon | :) | 02:45 |
| StevenK | Which | 02:45 |
| StevenK | ? | 02:45 |
| imbrandon | apt-mirror | 02:45 |
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| proppy | dunno if there is an equivalent of -pi for python | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | apt-mirror == a whole heap of perl | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | hahah i just noticed i'm doing the same cut | blah blahb lbah twice too | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | jesus | 02:47 |
| racarr | ugh, I have a really strange bug as of the last few days | 02:47 |
| imbrandon | once before the for loop and once in it | 02:47 |
| racarr | setting rgba colormap on ANY pygtk window | 02:47 |
| racarr | makes it effectively die (most widgets just stop rendering) | 02:47 |
| proppy | python -c "import sys; print sys.stdin.read().replace('\r\n', '\n')" | 02:47 |
| imbrandon | heh | 02:50 |
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| ajmitch | dpkg-deb: building package `fedora-ds-core' in `../fedora-ds-core_1.1~cvs.20070324-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb'. | 02:52 |
| ajmitch | dpkg-deb: building package `fedora-ds-core' in `../fedora-ds-core_1.1~cvs.20070324-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb'. | 02:52 |
| ajmitch | dpkg-deb: building package `fedora-ds-core' in `../fedora-ds-core_1.1~cvs.20070324-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb'. | 02:52 |
| ajmitch | bah | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | bah irssi | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | at least it built ;) | 02:53 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | some minor RH idiocies | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 8649 2007-03-25 01:52 ./etc/rc.d/init.d/fedora-ds | 02:54 |
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| ajmitch | but I'm happy for now, and can go & sleep :) | 02:54 |
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| pirast | mr_pouit, pong | 03:04 |
| racarr | imbrandon: Do you know if there used to be a libdbus1-dev package? | 03:04 |
| mr_pouit | pirast: I think it is a problem with the debian/rules :/ | 03:04 |
| pirast | mr_pouit, i got dsc & co, ran a pbuilder against it and it worked | 03:04 |
| racarr | imbrandon: Because there snot now, and beryl-plugins depends on it | 03:05 |
| racarr | but beryl-plugins built in a pbuilder, right? | 03:05 |
| racarr | it's libdbus-1-dev now | 03:05 |
| pirast | mr_pouit, also, there seems to be a lot which is not right.. apt-get source uscpi-tcp does not work for example | 03:05 |
| mr_pouit | pirast: this package is really, really "exotic" ^^" | 03:06 |
| mr_pouit | both qmail and ucspi-tcp :/ | 03:06 |
| pirast | mr_pouit, uh oh, just read your comment | 03:06 |
| pirast | mh i am sorry.. | 03:06 |
| pirast | wrong guess on my side | 03:06 |
| pirast | :( | 03:07 |
| mr_pouit | no harm ;) does someone have an idea about this ? ^^" | 03:07 |
| mr_pouit | Bug #95469 | 03:08 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 95469 in ucspi-tcp "[feisty] FTBFS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95469 | 03:08 |
| racarr | can someone upload http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/beryl-plugins/dbusfix.patch | 03:08 |
| racarr | for beryl-plugins ? | 03:08 |
| racarr | (it's a debdiff not a patch) | 03:08 |
| racarr | and http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/corefpic.debdiff | 03:09 |
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| StevenK | A debdiff is a patch | 03:10 |
| racarr | Err, yes but what I meant was | 03:10 |
| racarr | it wasn't something I needed someone to put in debian/patches and they would know after clicking | 03:10 |
| racarr | but | 03:10 |
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| imbrandon | has the other been published yet? | 03:10 |
| imbrandon | you might wanna wait on the upload untill the last one was published | 03:11 |
| pirast | mr_pouit, maybe sync 0.88-13 from debian: Cleaned up rules script to allow autobuilding | 03:11 |
| racarr | imbrandon: Err, core one already seems to be uploaded | 03:11 |
| racarr | imbrandon: And plugins wont build without the plugins one being uploaded... | 03:11 |
| racarr | err | 03:12 |
| racarr | plugins one is uploaded as well, they just showed up now | 03:12 |
| mr_pouit | pirast: same problem :/ | 03:12 |
| racarr | (I had asked someone to upload them yesterday but had to leave before everything was finished) | 03:12 |
| racarr | so NEVERMIND all that | 03:12 |
| mr_pouit | pirast: and I merged qmail from the same maintainer, and it has also the same issue :x | 03:12 |
| pirast | mr_pouit, how do you check? | 03:12 |
| pirast | mr_pouit, maybe contact the debian maintainer on irc and ask him if he has an idea / would fix it | 03:13 |
| pirast | mr_pouit, or file a bug against it in debian and then hope that the maintainer is very active :) | 03:13 |
| mr_pouit | pirast: I just did an "apt-get source ucspi-tcp" (I have Debian unstable deb-src in my sources.list ;) | 03:14 |
| pirast | mr_pouit, but how do you find out that it does not build with buildd? :) | 03:14 |
| mr_pouit | pirast: ok, I'll ping an archive-admin to see if he can help me for this, then the debian maintainer, and eventually report a bug ^^ | 03:14 |
| racarr | mm | 03:15 |
| mr_pouit | pirast: there is the same dependency in debian/rules binary-src target | 03:15 |
| pirast | ahh k | 03:15 |
| pirast | mr_pouit, okay good luck :) | 03:15 |
| racarr | new beryl-plugins doesn't even have a pending build | 03:15 |
| mr_pouit | thanks ^^" | 03:15 |
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| jwendell | if there is a sponsor with time, please, check my patches: https://launchpad.net/~wendell/+assignedbugs?search=Search&field.status=In+Progress | 03:28 |
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| Amaranth | jwendell: bug 78055 can probably just be rejected | 03:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78055 in ubuntu-restricted-extras "ubuntu-restricted-extras depends on sun-java5; sun-java6 is now available" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78055 | 03:43 |
| jwendell | Amaranth, why? | 03:43 |
| Amaranth | apparently that's be design | 03:44 |
| Amaranth | java6 doesn't always work were java5 did | 03:44 |
| jwendell | Amaranth, i guess not... | 03:45 |
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| Amaranth | shouldn't bug 53085 be done as a patch in the build system instead of directly applying the patch to the source? | 03:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 53085 in zapping "Wrong zapping icon" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53085 | 03:46 |
| Amaranth | using dpatch or quilt or whatever | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | Amaranth, not always | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | depends on the package and patch etc | 03:46 |
| Amaranth | imbrandon: I'd say always but that's because I like things clean :) | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | i say not always because thats policy, if upstreams dosent have a patchsys inplace then we dont make one | 03:47 |
| Amaranth | really? | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | yes realy | 03:47 |
| Amaranth | upstream being debian? | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | most of the time, yes | 03:47 |
| Amaranth | that seems..painful | 03:48 |
| imbrandon | that keeps deltas small | 03:48 |
| Amaranth | jwendell: oh, and it looks like you're actually undoing a change crimsun did with that patch | 03:48 |
| imbrandon | if its a major overhaul get it in debian ;) | 03:48 |
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| jwendell | Amaranth, what? | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:50 |
| imbrandon | heya bddebian | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Hi imbrandon | 03:50 |
| Amaranth | * Resynchronise with Debian (Closes: #4022): | 03:50 |
| Amaranth | - Fix desktop file to not use absolute path. | 03:50 |
| Amaranth | -- Daniel T Chen <crimsun@fungus.sh.nu> Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:07:34 +0000 | 03:50 |
| Amaranth | i wonder if it was broken for nearly a year or if something else messed it up | 03:52 |
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| jwendell | Amaranth, what would you suggest? | 03:52 |
| Amaranth | it needs to be undone, i guess :) | 03:52 |
| jwendell | Amaranth, that desktop file IS broken, i just fixed it | 03:52 |
| Amaranth | yeah, i guess that patch is fine | 03:53 |
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| sacater | hey im trying to get onto #ubuntu-motu-school but its always greyed out, whats going on? | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | sacater: because it's now #ubuntu-classroom ? | 04:08 |
| sacater | Hobbsee: hmm | 04:08 |
| sacater | irssi isnt letting me create any new window | 04:09 |
| sacater | is it true that you cant join over 21 channels on freenode.net unless you are a developer | 04:12 |
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| Hobbsee | sacater: there's a 20 channel limit, yes. | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | sacater: not just developers. people having good reasons to | 04:13 |
| sacater | Hobbsee: i see | 04:14 |
| sacater | Hobbsee: what if my reason is that I have lots of things to do? | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | ask a staffer | 04:15 |
| DarkSun88 | Any main-sponsor out there? | 04:15 |
| DarkSun88 | could you please review bug #95238? | 04:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 95238 in check "Please sync check 0.9.4-3 (main) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95238 | 04:16 |
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| ivoks | whatever you do, please stop entering and leaving channels :) | 04:21 |
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| racarr | how often does launchpad check for depwaits being resolved? | 04:26 |
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| jwendell | Amaranth, did you commit? | 04:27 |
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| Amaranth | jwendell: i can't | 04:28 |
| Amaranth | was just commenting | 04:28 |
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| imbrandon | racarr, 2 times an hour iirc on publisher runs | 04:31 |
| racarr | :( it decided to build beryl-plugins before beryl-core | 04:31 |
| racarr | and beryl-plugins have a >= on libberyldecoration-dev 0ubuntu2 | 04:31 |
| racarr | because of the -fPIC fix | 04:31 |
| imbrandon | sure, no biggie, it will rebuild next run | 04:31 |
| racarr | you would think it could be intelligent enough to prevent that | 04:34 |
| imbrandon | its just a queue fifo, but it all works out young padiwan ;) | 04:35 |
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| sabdfl | well done everyone for getting beryl sorted | 05:02 |
| jwendell | :) | 05:06 |
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| soc | spe doesn't work in feisty... | 05:07 |
| soc | it complains that it needs wxpython 2.5.... at least | 05:08 |
| soc | when you comment the section out, it's clear, that the problem is because wxpython is newer on feisty than spe expects it ... | 05:09 |
| bddebian | SO fix it or file a bug :-) | 05:09 |
| soc | feisty has something like wpyton 2.6.3 and spe was written with 2.6.1 or something | 05:09 |
| soc | I'm not really an experienced python developer, but how can I send in a patch? | 05:10 |
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| bddebian | File a bug and attach the patch to the bug report | 05:10 |
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| welshbyte | do the "Ubuntu Sponsors for Universe" work on weekends? :) | 05:15 |
| jdong | welshbyte: I'm sure the enthusiastic ones work around the clock :D | 05:17 |
| welshbyte | hehe :) | 05:19 |
| bddebian | Or the sick ones, depending on how you look at it :) | 05:21 |
| welshbyte | i'm just interested to see whether the 2 debdiffs i've attached to bugs since last night have been done sufficiently so i can carry on doing the same for other bugs with more confidence | 05:21 |
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| welshbyte | positive reinforcement, and all that :) | 05:22 |
| jdong | bddebian: meh it's not a disease, it's a _lifestyle choice_ :D | 05:22 |
| soc | ok | 05:23 |
| soc | just looked at spe | 05:23 |
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| soc | it seems that wxversion.ensureMinimal() fails | 05:26 |
| soc | even if the version used is greater than WX_VERSION = '2.5.4.1' | 05:26 |
| bddebian | jdong: :-) | 05:26 |
| soc | a quick fix is to comment out 'sys.exit' if the check faisl | 05:27 |
| soc | fails | 05:27 |
| soc | (in SPE.py) | 05:27 |
| soc | in fact we don't nedd that check because it's handled by package dependencies | 05:27 |
| welshbyte | soc: it would be good to have all this info in a bug report, that way the right people can handle it properly :) | 05:28 |
| soc | I _hate_ bugreports :-) | 05:29 |
| welshbyte | aw don't be like that, they get things done :) | 05:30 |
| imbrandon | sabdfl, :) | 05:30 |
| imbrandon | racarr, did the depwait work itsself out ? | 05:30 |
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| racarr | imbrandon: Err, it's pending now on i386, so yeah | 05:31 |
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| imbrandon | cool | 05:31 |
| imbrandon | yea thats good | 05:31 |
| imbrandon | should be published within inthe hour then | 05:31 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, you still awake ? | 05:32 |
| imbrandon | welshbyte, yea some of us do, what bug numbers ? | 05:33 |
| welshbyte | bug 40782 and bug 71753 | 05:33 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 40782 in fceu "No desktop file" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40782 | 05:33 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 71753 in xpdf "Incorrect path in man page" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71753 | 05:33 |
| welshbyte | they're only trivial, i was using them to relearn the ropes | 05:34 |
| welshbyte | (bitesize tags rock) | 05:34 |
| imbrandon | yup, looks like your doing it right ( just from a quick glance ) | 05:34 |
| welshbyte | cool | 05:34 |
| welshbyte | thanks :) | 05:34 |
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| pirast | keescook, hi :) | 05:51 |
| pirast | uh oh, weekend | 05:52 |
| soc | welshbyte: https://launchpad.net/bugs/95539 | 05:53 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 95539 in spe "spe doesn't run because check for wxpython fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 05:53 |
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| soc | is that ok? | 05:55 |
| keescook | pirast: hiya :) | 05:55 |
| pirast | keescook, no weekend? | 05:55 |
| keescook | pirast: it's the weekend; just doing work on mythtv, hanging out. | 05:56 |
| pirast | keescook, ok :) did you see the asterisk + phpmyadmin debdiffs? | 05:56 |
| pirast | would be nice if you could apply them later | 05:57 |
| keescook | pirast: yup, I did, thanks! Which of the debdiffs did you get a chance to test? | 05:57 |
| pirast | against a exploit, none.. :( | 05:58 |
| keescook | pirast: but it was tested that the code still runs, etc? | 05:58 |
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| pirast | nope :( doing now with all | 05:59 |
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| pirast | keescook, good that you ask :( | 06:00 |
| keescook | pirast: heheh, no problem. | 06:01 |
| pirast | sorry | 06:01 |
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| pirast | keescook, you know what would be great.. | 06:03 |
| pirast | something to push updates to | 06:03 |
| pirast | then i do not have to run pbuilder | 06:03 |
| pirast | one click on publish and it lands in the archives | 06:03 |
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| sabdfl | pirast: i saw you deactivated your beta membership - any reason why? | 06:08 |
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| pirast | sabdfl, lp was slow to me, hoped that leaving beta team would change that :) | 06:09 |
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| sabdfl | pirast: ok | 06:09 |
| sacater | jesus, #ubuntu is packed! | 06:09 |
| sacater | not sure whether thats good or bad | 06:10 |
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| pirast | sabdfl, but it didn't really change that. also, i often forgot to remove the "beta." in the url when giving links to other people, so that they ended up with a login.. | 06:11 |
| sabdfl | sacater: as long as everyone is nice to one another, it must be a Good Thing :-) | 06:13 |
| sacater | sabdfl: well.... i had about 3 questions directed at me in about half a minute | 06:13 |
| sacater | hard to keep up :P | 06:13 |
| pochu | pirast: there is a bug about that, to redirect to non-beta to non-beta-testers :) | 06:14 |
| pochu | though it isn't implemented yet, AFAIK | 06:14 |
| pirast | pochu, uh oh :) | 06:14 |
| sabdfl | also, pirast, you can turn off the redirect for chunks of two hours, at the launchpad.net home page | 06:15 |
| sabdfl | but... too late now :-) | 06:15 |
| sacater | the predeccesor (cant spell), of my pda (a gentoo dev) left a huge memo, and it was a file of practice questions that he may be asked when he applied for dev (he was trainee at the time). My question is thus, is there a sort of practice thing for motu trainees, and if not, could someone compose one? | 06:15 |
| pirast | sabdfl, yeah, i know.. but clicking a button every two hours is not that nice ;) also, i want to have a little bit of a surprise when the new lp ui goes public and is final :P | 06:16 |
| Q-FUNK | sacater: please, no NM process | 06:16 |
| sacater | pirast: new launchpad ui? | 06:16 |
| sacater | Q-FUNK: eh? | 06:16 |
| pirast | i am also missing that with ubuntu.. when running development releases, there are no surprises when a new release goes final.. :P | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | sacater: i think Q-FUNK is saying he'd prefer to keep the process of becoming a MOTU a more fluid one :-) | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | pirast: yes, i know that feeling! | 06:17 |
| pirast | sacater: see https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-beta-testers | 06:18 |
| sacater | sabdfl: whats wrong with practice questions :'( | 06:18 |
| sacater | pirast: will do | 06:18 |
| Q-FUNK | sabdfl: indeed :) | 06:18 |
| sabdfl | sacater: nothing - it would i think be very cool to have a knowledgebase like that | 06:18 |
| DarkSun88 | Any main-sponsor out there? | 06:19 |
| sacater | pirast: i just joined. id love to beta the new ui | 06:19 |
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| Q-FUNK | sacater: we need a knowledge base of sample packaging and maintaining situations, but IMHO we'd rather avoid turning the process of becoming a MOTU into pointlessly rigid testing process. | 06:20 |
| sacater | Q-FUNK: i see youre point, fair enough | 06:20 |
| sacater | i could upload the test my mate took if he dosnt mind | 06:20 |
| sacater | gentoo dev | 06:21 |
| sabdfl | sacater: that would be interesting | 06:21 |
| sacater | sabdfl: ok | 06:21 |
| sacater | give me 10 mins max | 06:21 |
| DarkSun88 | could you please review bug #95238? | 06:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 95238 in check "Please sync check 0.9.4-3 (main) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95238 | 06:21 |
| sabdfl | sacater: promise not to post any screenshots of stuff you see on beta till it lands on production? | 06:21 |
| sacater | sabdfl: if someone approves me, of course not | 06:23 |
| sacater | that would be a blasphemy | 06:23 |
| sacater | etc etc | 06:23 |
| sacater | :P | 06:23 |
| sacater | if anyone here does a bit of perl or likes using the tea text editor, you can join my tea-dev team :D | 06:24 |
| sabdfl | done | 06:24 |
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| sabdfl | ScottK: we need to figure out how to run most of it over http, and only use https for security-critical info | 06:25 |
| sacater | ScottK: all launchpad is slower than normal for me | 06:25 |
| sabdfl | it's probably also getting a bit of a thumping due to the beta | 06:26 |
| ScottK | sacater: Not just today, but in general. | 06:26 |
| sacater | ScottK: :P, i was refering to the last few weeks | 06:26 |
| ScottK | Makes sense about https being a performance block and a tricky one to get right. | 06:26 |
| ScottK | sacater: Last few weeks I agree have been slower than usual. | 06:26 |
| ScottK | but LP at it's fastest has never been fast IMO. | 06:26 |
| sacater | IMO? | 06:27 |
| ScottK | In My Opinion. | 06:27 |
| sacater | sabdfl: hmm, cant seem to copy the memo onto my MMC | 06:29 |
| pirast | keescook, feisty asterisk compiles, installs, runs | 06:31 |
| pirast | off now, have a nice evening :) | 06:34 |
| pirast | bye | 06:34 |
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| sacater | WOW | 06:35 |
| sacater | nice ui | 06:35 |
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| sacater | sabdfl: do you know who approved me onto the betas? | 06:41 |
| pochu | sacater: himself | 06:42 |
| pochu | sacater: the beta rocks, isn't it? :) | 06:42 |
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| sacater | pochu: yes, | 06:43 |
| sacater | sabdfl: thanks | 06:43 |
| somerville32 | Hiya _o/ | 06:44 |
| pochu | sacater: haven't you received a mail saying who has approved you? | 06:44 |
| sabdfl | sacater: you're welcome | 06:44 |
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| sacater | somerville32: :P | 06:44 |
| racarr | ohhh beryl-plugins is building on i386 | 06:44 |
| sacater | i do that (not in the hospital though | 06:44 |
| sacater | racarr: beryl pwns | 06:45 |
| racarr | hehe | 06:45 |
| racarr | yay, it didn't fail this time | 06:45 |
| somerville32 | I just tried beryl yesterday and everyone on the unit thought it was so cool. I told them to get Ubuntu instead of Windows Vista - they all asked me for a copy. hehe. | 06:46 |
| bddebian | I don't even know WTF beryl is :-) | 06:50 |
| bddebian | And Vista is a joke anyway :-) | 06:50 |
| sacater | bddebian: beryl pwns | 06:50 |
| sacater | eyecandy | 06:50 |
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| pochu | I've read somewhere that beryl is going to re-join compiz :) | 06:54 |
| pochu | maybe it was just a dream | 06:54 |
| welshbyte | that's certainly the topic of the day | 06:55 |
| pochu | then is it true? :) | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | pochu, yes , most likely | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | http://lists.beryl-project.org/pipermail/beryl-dev/2007-March/000356.html | 06:56 |
| pochu | looking :) | 06:56 |
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| sacater | no..... compiz and beryl............ my generation has only known beryl.... | 07:13 |
| sacater | sabdfl: sorry, cant get the memo off my PDA, the gentoo dev secured it | 07:13 |
| sabdfl | smart guy | 07:13 |
| sacater | sabdfl: yeh, hes out powerboating | 07:14 |
| sacater | MERGE! no, i dont want a comperl | 07:15 |
| sacater | MERGE! no, i dont want a comperliz | 07:15 |
| racarr | I don't think we are likely to go with either of those names | 07:17 |
| sacater | :P | 07:17 |
| sacater | if anyone sees any small/easy bugs in launchpad please assign to me, (Sam Cater), i want some wokr | 07:18 |
| sacater | work* | 07:18 |
| pochu | sacater: take a look here: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize | 07:19 |
| sacater | pochu: okies | 07:21 |
| sacater | anyone interested in 90529 | 07:21 |
| sacater | https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmms-status-plugin/+bug/90529 | 07:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 90529 in xmms-status-plugin "feature request: Remove from the gnome taskbar" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 07:21 |
| DarkSun88 | could you please review bug #95573 | 07:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 95573 in pyx "Please merge pyx 0.9-4 from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95573 | 07:23 |
| LaserJock | Gooooood Morning MOTU Land! | 07:23 |
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| welshbyte | good evening LaserJock :) | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | hi welshbyte | 07:24 |
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| Q-FUNK | did robin williams just join motu? | 07:25 |
| welshbyte | nanu nanu | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | he's been here for some time ;-) | 07:25 |
| sacater | hi LaserJock | 07:25 |
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| LaserJock | I've done that at various times forever and Q-FUNK's the first person to say anything | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | sacater: hi | 07:26 |
| Q-FUNK | *chuckles* | 07:26 |
| sacater | LaserJock: me got launchpad betas :D | 07:26 |
| sacater | love it | 07:27 |
| LaserJock | sacater: cool | 07:27 |
| Q-FUNK | do they have a rent-o-soyuz franchise on the lauchpad now? do I finally get to visit khazakstan? | 07:27 |
| LaserJock | Q-FUNK: I wondered if anybody had ever watched it. Sometimes cultural references just don't work | 07:28 |
| pochu | Are there 2 MOTU-uvf members? Bug #95514 | 07:28 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 95514 in wxwidgets2.8 "[UVFe] wxwidgets 2.8.3.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95514 | 07:28 |
| LaserJock | Q-FUNK: heh | 07:28 |
| Q-FUNK | LaserJock: then again, it was an american movie. they're everywhere now | 07:29 |
| sacater | Hey can someone review bug/78055, a debdiff has been uploaded 6 hours ago, time to release it! | 07:29 |
| sacater | +bug/78055 | 07:30 |
| sacater | hmm | 07:30 |
| sacater | work ubugtu! | 07:30 |
| sacater | aha! | 07:30 |
| sacater | #78055 | 07:30 |
| sacater | bug #78055 | 07:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78055 in ubuntu-restricted-extras "ubuntu-restricted-extras depends on sun-java5; sun-java6 is now available" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78055 | 07:30 |
| sacater | yays | 07:30 |
| pochu | see u guys! | 07:31 |
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| sacater | freenode.net has a 21 chatroom limit, but I understand that developers/people who need it can get more. Can anyone explain this to me further, as I need more channel space | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | sacater: you'd probably need to talk to freenode staff | 08:17 |
| sacater | LaserJock: ah yes, and I would perform that ability how? | 08:18 |
| sacater | LaserJock: also, whats an ubuntu cloak | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | sacater: there are freenode channels | 08:19 |
| sacater | erm | 08:19 |
| sacater | could you be more precise | 08:19 |
| sacater | please. | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | sacater: I don't know what one is the best, but google/freenode website will know | 08:19 |
| sacater | google for freenode? | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | the cloaks are ubuntu members and masks the ip/address that they are connectiong from | 08:20 |
| sacater | LaserJock: oh ill get one of those if i can | 08:20 |
| sacater | where do i talk to freenode staff, is there a channel? | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | sacater: you get one when you become and Ubuntu Member | 08:21 |
| sacater | LaserJock: ubuntero? | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | along with an @ubuntu.com email address | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | sacater: no, Ubuntu Member | 08:21 |
| sacater | hmm | 08:21 |
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| LaserJock | sacater: run a /whois LaserJock | 08:22 |
| sacater | cool | 08:23 |
| sacater | hmm | 08:23 |
| sacater | https://beta.launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers | 08:23 |
| sacater | have I made a substantial contribution | 08:23 |
| sacater | :D | 08:23 |
| LaserJock | you need more I'd think | 08:23 |
| LaserJock | generally ~2 months of sustained contribution is about right | 08:24 |
| sacater | LaserJock: what about helping newbies along, (I do that a lot) | 08:25 |
| jussi01 | can someone tell me how to become a launchpad beta tester? | 08:26 |
| sacater | jussi01: you should ask an administrator of the beta team | 08:26 |
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| jussi01 | sacater, can you name one or 2? | 08:27 |
| lightsee1 | hi | 08:27 |
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| sacater | jussi01: hang on | 08:27 |
| lightsee1 | im not an motu | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | jussi01: ask in #lunchpad | 08:28 |
| lightsee1 | but i have an blender 2.43 | 08:28 |
| sacater | jussi01: https://beta.launchpad.net/~launchpad-beta-testers | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | sacater: user support certianly is a contribution | 08:28 |
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| sacater | jussi01: whoops | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | sacater: don't give them beta. addresses to learn about Beta ;-) | 08:28 |
| sacater | jussi01: https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-beta-testers | 08:28 |
| sacater | LaserJock: ^^ | 08:29 |
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| lightsee1 | any way this blender is 2.43 and i dont see why it cant be in the repo now | 08:30 |
| jussi01 | :D thanks sacater, LaserJock | 08:30 |
| LaserJock | lightsee1: we already have 2.43 | 08:31 |
| lightsee1 | ok | 08:34 |
| lightsee1 | its in the edgy repo? | 08:34 |
| _MMA_ | Should be in Feisty. | 08:35 |
| sacater | lightsee1: try to get all your newer packages from the feisty repo, | 08:36 |
| sacater | FEISTY IN about A MONTH! | 08:36 |
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| LaserJock | lightsee1: it's in Feisty, you can file a backport request to Edgy if it's not already there in edgy-backports | 08:42 |
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| vil | I have some difficulties running the newly uploaded beryl | 08:55 |
| vil | any hint, how to debug what is wrong and why i don't get window decorations? | 08:55 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 09:51 |
| sacater | ajmitch: evening here but morning | 09:54 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch ;-) | 09:54 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock! LTNS! ;) | 09:54 |
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| sacater | now now, violence :P | 09:56 |
| ajmitch | he started it | 09:57 |
| tsmithe | hi ajmitch | 09:57 |
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| tsmithe | LaserJock, so did nothing come of trying with getting the old packages in? | 09:57 |
| LaserJock | tsmithe: I think they're in | 09:58 |
| tsmithe | you mean Hobbsee lets you borrow her stick? :'( | 09:58 |
| tsmithe | oh what? | 09:58 |
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| LaserJock | I stole it for a while | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | it's not in the mirrors yet | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | I don't think | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | enblend is just in binary NEW | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure where wired went though | 09:58 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: I spent last night hacking on FDS, rather than authtool | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | well, that's cool too | 09:59 |
| ajmitch | yeah, I ended up not going to bed until I had a package built | 10:00 |
| tsmithe | LaserJock, oh cool | 10:01 |
| === ajmitch really has to replace that RHish initscript for it | ||
| === tsmithe wonders where wired got to | ||
| joejaxx | anyone know the most common boot resolutions? | 10:06 |
| tsmithe | wired was rejected! | 10:06 |
| tsmithe | anyone know why? | 10:06 |
| tsmithe | or how i can find out? | 10:06 |
| ajmitch | depends on who uploaded it | 10:07 |
| LaserJock | tsmithe: who uploaded it? | 10:07 |
| tsmithe | erm... i can't remember... | 10:07 |
| tsmithe | can i find that out also? | 10:07 |
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| geser | tsmithe: check the signature on the changes file | 10:09 |
| tsmithe | ahh good idea | 10:09 |
| tsmithe | hmm... how do i take the signature and decode it? | 10:10 |
| tsmithe | can i just pipe it to gpg? | 10:10 |
| geser | yes | 10:10 |
| LaserJock | Adri2000 did the last one | 10:11 |
| joejaxx | LaserJock: ajmitch do you all know what the most common boot video resolutions are? | 10:11 |
| tsmithe | geser, what gpg command do i need to use? | 10:11 |
| geser | tsmithe: gpg will probably complain about the missing key but it will tell you which one it is and you can look it up on the keyserver | 10:12 |
| geser | gpg changes.file | 10:12 |
| tsmithe | yea, sure | 10:12 |
| tsmithe | hmm ok :) | 10:12 |
| tsmithe | and which tz is Adri2000 in? | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | no sure | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | I think sistpoty did the first upload | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | not sure who'd get the email | 10:12 |
| geser | tsmithe: Timezone: Europe/Paris | 10:14 |
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| tsmithe | right, so it should be 2214 for him | 10:14 |
| tsmithe | i | 10:14 |
| tsmithe | * | 10:14 |
| tsmithe | *i'll pm him | 10:15 |
| tsmithe | (silly new keyboard) | 10:15 |
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| ajmitch | back later | 10:17 |
| tsmithe | have fun | 10:18 |
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| LaserJock | tsmithe: where you the person in the changelog for wired? | 10:33 |
| tsmithe | yea | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | I'm thinking of filing a bug | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | so reject emails go to both the uploader and the person in the changelog | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | or something like that | 10:35 |
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| LaserJock | we could even make them publicly availble, but I'm not sure if contributrs want that ;-) | 10:36 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: They don't? I know acceptance ones do... | 10:36 |
| tsmithe | LaserJock, i do! | 10:36 |
| tsmithe | why wouldn't they? | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | well | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | it's kinda embarassing | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | to some people | 10:38 |
| tsmithe | they can look back on their stupidity and laugh when they are more experienced. or at least i would. | 10:38 |
| tsmithe | especially during motu council meetings | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | actually | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | rejects should maybe go to the MOTU ML | 10:39 |
| Fujitsu | That's not such a bad idea, LaserJoc. | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | individual uploaders come and go | 10:39 |
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| tsmithe | and cc the packager? | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | but we are MOTU | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | tsmithe: the issue is it might not be trivial to do | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | I think right now it looks for info in the .changes file | 10:39 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: There is a Changed-By field in the .changes. | 10:40 |
| tsmithe | it's just an email... if it's already being sent, isn't it as trivial as adding more headers, parsing the changes file? | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: hmm, that might work | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | but emailing ubuntu-motu would at least be sufficient | 10:41 |
| Fujitsu | That's used for acceptance, but apparently not rejection. | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | people can check the list archives | 10:41 |
| Fujitsu | Maybe rejection from NEW, but not rejection from the upload queue. | 10:41 |
| Fujitsu | There are a fair few rejections due to dodgy versions and similar, which we probably don't want spammed to -motu. | 10:42 |
| LaserJock | oh yeah | 10:42 |
| LaserJock | I'm just talking about NEW | 10:43 |
| Fujitsu | Good, I hoped so. | 10:43 |
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| jwendell | sacater, around? | 10:48 |
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| Tonio_ | lupine_85: aquamarine was rejected........ | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | don't understand why... | 10:50 |
| Fujitsu | The rejection message should give an error on one of the early lines. | 10:52 |
| Fujitsu | Tonio_: There is already a 0ubuntu2 there. | 10:53 |
| Fujitsu | Uploaded by sistpoty for racarr. | 10:53 |
| LaserJock | heh | 10:54 |
| Fujitsu | Weren't there three fixes prepared independently for that one? | 10:55 |
| bddebian | Any of you Core 2 Duo experts? | 10:57 |
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| LaserJock | man, my LP bugmail has really piled up | 11:14 |
| lupine_85 | Tonio_: heh, yeah | 11:16 |
| lupine_85 | it was an easy fix so everyone piled in ;) | 11:16 |
| TheMuso | Hey MOTUs. | 11:19 |
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| Tonio_ | lupine_85: yeah but why rejecting the package ? | 11:48 |
| lupine_85 | because there's already one in the system somewhere | 11:49 |
| LaserJock | can't have 2 packages with the same version | 11:49 |
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| Fujitsu | Tonio_: I can see why it wouldn't have given a reason. | 11:50 |
| Fujitsu | It would have gone into UNAPPROVED because we were still frozen, so was manually rejected (probably by Mithrandir). It will tell you why if it's done automatically, but not manually. | 11:51 |
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| Tonio_ | Fujitsu: ah okay ;) | 11:55 |
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| pirast | could anyone please apply the patch in bug 45909? thanks | 12:03 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 45909 in Baltix "ndisgtk doesn't install driver" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45909 | 12:03 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: pingy pingy | 12:09 |
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