=== pirast_ [n=martin@p508B1CE0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bh_ [n=bh@0x5552937f.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matt_good [n=matt@ip24-255-125-63.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === danohuiginn [n=ant@p54bed748.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Tonio_ [n=tonio@249.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === soc [n=soc@p54ADE90A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] Hey MOTUs. [12:40] TheMuso: Hey [12:44] to whom is responsible for this, I just fixed aquamarine ftbfs issue, should be in the repos tomorrow [12:46] Tonio_: you are now responsible for it :) [12:47] thanks Tonio_, I didn't realise it was still an issue [12:48] nixternal: hehe [12:48] lupine_85: just 2 builddeps missing, classic issue with kde apps : automake1.9 and autoconf [12:49] yeah, they always get me as well :D [12:49] lupine_85: another option could have been to apply buildprep, for for further maintainance, easier to had builddeps [12:50] I wanna see that beryl-kubuntu working out of the box hehe :) === mathieu [n=mathieu@ANantes-157-1-96-55.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] :) === math_b_ [n=mathieu@ANantes-157-1-96-55.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] The settings profile probably needs some tweaking === math_b [n=mathieu@ANantes-157-1-96-55.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] lupine_85: if I have time to help, I'll do :) [12:54] lupine_85: I have quite some experience in configuring kde hehe :) [12:54] I may have some time in 10 days [12:56] lupine_85: concerning the autostart, is there something automated or do we have to manually create a ~/.kde/Autostart/ script ? === Seiya [n=Seiya@c-24-128-169-133.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] Tonio_: nothing automated at the moment [12:58] lupine_85: hum that's the asty part... [12:59] I mean someone installing beryl logically wants it autostarted [12:59] well, not if they have compiz installed as well [12:59] hum, makes sense [12:59] AIUI, the desktop-effects app is where it's all happening [12:59] well the point is that it would be nice to be able to graphically define autostart [12:59] not having to create a script for this === fowlduck [n=nate@75-130-31-23.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] yeah. Doing it in desktop-effects ("enable/disable") might be the best way to go about it. [01:00] we're explicitly not allowed to have beryl-manager starting by default, however ;) [01:01] so a beryl --replace command with aquamarine --replace in the window decoration plugin is the way to go === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] lupine_85: hum, as compiz is the defalt choice..... indeed that makes sense [01:01] lupine_85: should eventually beryl confict with compiz ? [01:01] no [01:01] Urgh, no. [01:01] I guess starting both at the same time creates a hudge mess no ? :) [01:01] nope [01:02] nah, whichever gets started second is the one that you end up using [01:02] lupine_85: ho nice :) [01:02] I thought that would create a pure mess in fact === Tonio_ is not very experienced in compiz or beryl [01:02] I'm waiting for kde4 kwin in fact ;) [01:02] mm, me too === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === so1 [n=soc@p54ADFD78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] does someone know why the qtcurve-* packages are missing in feisty? [01:06] I used them in edgy to make kde not to look that ugly ... [01:08] it is always a pleasure to help someone insulting your work ;) [01:09] ooops, are you the designer of the default themes of kde? [01:09] so1: not exactly, but I know the design team, and I helped on that part too :) [01:09] good to know ... [01:10] okay seems to be removed indeed.... let's find why [01:10] so1: next time just say you really don't like it :) [01:10] but looking at it, it seems the problem is more with how the widgets are drawn ... lines everywhere ... don't like it [01:10] ^thought the same :-) [01:11] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=qtcurve [01:11] looks like the package has been removed [01:11] or renamed [01:11] why searching for qtcurve leads to this one ? [01:12] strange....... [01:12] mhh [01:12] The Klearlook widget style for KDE [01:12] Klearlook is a widget style for KDE that is based off [01:12] the QtCurve style. As its name suggests, it is intended [01:12] to be a KDE replica of the GTK theme "Clearlooks". [01:12] Homepage: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31717 [01:12] maybe it searches the descriptions too ... [01:13] hum it probably replaced qtcurve as this one is maintained === lupine_85 pwns his system to look like RiscOS [01:14] weird ... I don't find qtcurve in debian at all ... [01:14] ok lets looks at it [01:14] lupine_85: argh!, why not reactos ? :) [01:14] lupine_85: lol [01:14] I loved RiscOS [01:15] 'though RiscOS never had wobbly windows, that I remember... :D [01:15] lupine_85: well I loved beos, but now I admit that would be quite ugly today [01:16] http://download.tuxfamily.org/lnxteam/packages/QtCurve/ [01:16] qtcurve seems to be here ... === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548addfa.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] Tonio_: not really :P [01:20] ok, qtcurve seems to be maintained [01:21] last update on kde-look.org was from yesterday [01:21] author seems to plan a kde4 port === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@h-67-102-70-2.snfccasy.covad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] what the deal with all the automake packages? there is automake 1.4 through 1.9 [01:31] should I install them all? [01:31] no, only the needed version (perferable the last one) [01:32] there are automake files around which don't work with the recent versions [01:32] I got an error with AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE in a configure.in script btw... [01:32] hmm [01:32] so maybe I should try ininstalling the 1.4 version and installing the 1.9 version? === so1 [n=soc@p54ADFD78.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable092.218-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] grr, anyone got a clue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11781/ === zoli2k [n=kuscsik@217.12.49.42] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] Hi! I have problem with apache on a live usb distro derived from edgy. [01:53] apache 2 stops work when edgy is booted from usb [01:53] it simply does not forward jpg images and css files [01:54] zoli2k: This isn't a support channel. [01:54] zoli2k: not a support channel [01:55] But probably the #ubuntu channel is not the right place for development questions. [01:55] That's not a development question... [01:56] I develop this usb distro based on edgy [01:56] and my problem is probably connected with the casper package [01:56] It's a support question if Apache is not working. [01:57] which I use with cow filesystem enabled [01:57] probably this made the apache unusable [01:58] so it is not an apache specific question [01:59] man my head hurts [02:00] ajmitch: ping [02:01] keescook: pong! [02:01] Only I hope, somebody can tell me if it is possible that casper in persistent mode may yield to problems with other packages. === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@ubuntu/member/welshbyte] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] keescook: When you have time, can you please have a look at the patch that I attached to bug #94238 a while ago? [02:02] Malone bug 94238 in mpd "MPD Critical bug, please update to 0.12.2" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94238 [02:02] ajmitch: so, I'm really late with this, but I'd like to get apparmor into universe. I've been working with the suse guys, and I have a nice package that's all build and tested. it has no external dependencies, does it have a chance for newpackagefreeze exception? [02:02] We're officially closed as of beta freeze... But you could ask. [02:02] keescook: doesn't it require kernel changes, or can it be built as separate modules? [02:02] Fujitsu: ah! yeah, I mean to get to that. [02:03] ajmitch: correct. It's totally external (the modules get installed via m-a) [02:03] you'd have to do some fast talking, since it's not just me you'd need to convince :) [02:03] ajmitch: right, I realize that; who else do I need to convince? I figure I can talk to pitti to help get it through NEW [02:04] dholbach, other motu-uvf people [02:04] as Fujitsu said, we're well into freeze time now [02:05] I think it sounds OK, but I don't have any bearing on anything. [02:05] freeze can be broken, for stuff that's deemed important enough [02:05] right, cool. I just wanted to test the waters. :) [02:06] plus it's not just j.random package on revu, I guess [02:07] though, ironically, I uploaded it to REVU just so people could stare at it. ;) [02:07] hah [02:07] it'd probably make iwj happier than selinux would ;) [02:08] *rofl* [02:08] I don't think anyone picky is happy with any MAC solutions. :) [02:08] so... [02:08] compiz and beryl are remerging [02:08] yeah [02:09] so I saw [02:09] offtopic but i have to tell everyone :) [02:09] it was already announced here :) [02:09] can we leave beryl in universe now? ;) [02:09] Amaranth: it, like, so got dugg [02:09] lupine_85: you're kidding [02:09] nope [02:09] http://digg.com/linux_unix/Beryl_to_re_merge_with_Compiz_soon [02:09] front page and everything [02:09] why are you surprised? [02:09] digg covers all sorts of inane crap ;) [02:09] heh, true enough [02:10] is there a substitute for AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE? Or what do I need to have installed to that make can run the ./configure === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@91-65-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] Heya gang [02:15] ajmitch: What do you think of a UVFe to fix bug #30344? It's currently completely unusable, and has been for a couple of releases. [02:15] Malone bug 30344 in gaphor "Gaphor doesn't start" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30344 [02:16] Fujitsu: sounds sane enough === zoli2k [n=kuscsik@217.12.49.42] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:17] keescook: you may as well file a bug about apparmour & get feedback from the others - it's probably still a possibility [02:17] ajmitch: okay, I'll do that, thanks! === bddebian bows to ajmitch [02:20] bddebian: ? [02:20] I bow to your greatness! :-) [02:21] you're insane [02:21] CVS really sucks, btw === esaym throws in the towel. Way too much ubuntu for today :( [02:21] fedora people should stop using cvs [02:21] rofl [02:21] cvs r0x j00!! [02:22] I got to learn fc to help students at school install it [02:22] and I am a student [02:22] many other projects have moved onto svn at least [02:22] ajmitch: Not Hurd ;-P === mark007 [n=mark@pool-71-101-177-43.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] I thought Hurd was engraved onto stone tablets? [02:22] CVS does suck, that's why SVN exists. [02:23] lupine_85: That too. [02:23] hence the slow progress... making commits involved chisels ;) [02:23] lupine_85: Nah we moved to punch cards about 5 years ago ;-P [02:23] ah, good stuff :) [02:23] at least their crack is public [02:23] the storage costs must have been immense [02:24] stone tablets over ip... now there's a thought [02:24] Damn I'm a crackhead :-( [02:26] umm..ok [02:35] geser: Shouldn't those sync requests be confirmed? [02:38] I don't know why I'm worrying about libticalcs2 when I pretty much have no way of getting tilp2 in at this point :'-( [02:40] bddebian: for the same reason I'm caring about other stuff I'm doing which won't see feisty [02:41] Well I could have made it but like an idiot I was trying to do it in succession so all the build-deps were getting in the archive before uploading the next package :-( === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] you'll live [02:48] Nooo... I'm withering away as I type here... [02:48] so what goes on around here after beta freeze? [02:50] shame [02:50] welshbyte: lots & lots of bug fixing [02:51] ah, same as usual then :) [02:51] we don't give up at beta release :) [02:52] i know, i was just wondering how the fixes got in once it's frozen [02:52] same as usual, we upload stuff [02:52] it's not completely frozen yet [02:52] that happens a few days before final release [02:53] ah ok :) [02:53] anyone about that can test something for me on feisty? [02:53] if you download a file with right click ->L save target as, and then change directory with the bookmarks on the left, do you lose the filename? [02:54] (in firefox) === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] yay, after a day of hacking, this laptop's fully functional [03:02] well done [03:02] that was impressively fast [03:02] now I'm going to celebrate my birthday by going to sleep [03:02] finally, I can type 'make' [03:02] heh [03:02] night crimsun === ajmitch waits for the build to fail === jetsaredim [n=jgreenwa@inet-netcache3-o.oracle.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] while it does that, I'm out for food :) [03:03] is there any way to find out if a switch from edgy to feisty will cause problems before actually doing it? [03:04] "sort of" [03:04] like if repos you were using for edgy aren't there or something odd like that [03:04] try the beta live cd [03:04] hmm [03:04] but that doesn't really tell you if anything will break cause that's like a fresh install vs upgrade [03:05] know what i mean [03:06] sure [03:06] jetsaredim: but it's still a good practice to check the beta livecd. [03:06] OTOH, that's your closest ismulation [03:06] bcm43xx sucks, btw [03:07] jetsaredim: we had one person in another support channel skip that step and end up with an unbootable kernel. [03:07] awesome [03:07] so try the herd 5 cd? [03:07] beta [03:07] beta is out. [03:07] check distrowatch [03:07] ah === paran_ [n=paran@cust.fiber-lan.snet.lk.212.214.112.112.visit.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] ajmitch: Do you have any way to tag notes on your RC bug page? === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] whoa I missed that it's crimsun's b-day?? [03:22] whoa [03:23] Happy Birthday, crimsun! [03:26] ajmitch: Where'd you go darn it? :) [03:28] what would be a good section on the forum to ask about some troubles I am having while trying to compile a program? [03:29] there really needs to be a development section or something.... [03:29] esaym: Programming might work. [03:29] thats what I was thinking [03:29] everything else seems resctriced [03:29] forum # 39 [03:29] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=39 [03:29] esaym: nothing should be restricted.... you must be a member to post, that's the only restriction [03:30] well yea, but what I ment was that it could not be put into the backports section [03:30] because that is official stuff only [03:31] esaym: you should be able to post in there. [03:32] Yea I can post, but the stickied thread said that section was for official programs only [03:33] esaym: hmm well I've done a very bad job of keeping stickes up to date then :) [03:34] well I am going to stick it in programming anyway [03:35] thats the error I am getting btw http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11781/ [03:35] programming form is probably best for that [03:35] lupine_85: aquamarine died on all arches. did you test build that before uploading? [03:36] in a clean chroot / pbuilder? [03:36] needs a build-dep on automake-1.9 [03:36] not a recommends [03:36] Hobbsee: you talking to me? [03:36] esaym: no, lupine_85 [03:37] oh :( [03:37] esaym: you'd have to post the configure file somewhere too. [03:37] ./configure: line 1443: syntax error near unexpected token `soundkonverter,' [03:37] ./configure: line 1443: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(soundkonverter, 0.3.1)' [03:37] yea I am going to make a thread about it [03:38] probably needs at least an autoreconf [03:38] it is like auto make is screwed up or something [03:38] do be do be doo [03:38] what is autoreconf? [03:38] a file? [03:38] autoreconf -f -i === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] instead of having to do: aclocal autoheader automake [03:39] I think :-) [03:40] I was using dpkg-buildpackage [03:40] make gives the same error though [03:40] You would need to autoreconf before bulding the package [03:41] It generates new configure and makefile "stuff" [03:41] so autoreconf -f -i and then do dpkg-buildpackage? [03:41] I think that's what they are saying but I have barely been paying attention :) [03:42] hmm, same error, only in configure.in === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] Actually it looks like AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(pkg, version) is deprecated, you might want to take a look at that [03:45] but how can the package name be deprecated (soundkonverter)? [03:46] esaym: soundkonverter is already packaged.... Why are you compiling it? [03:46] for fun, and for dapper [03:46] the one on dapper is beta [03:47] esaym: No, just the use of package and version in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE() is deprecated [03:47] http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/html_node/Public-macros.html [03:47] But that may or may not be your problem [03:50] interesting, so the author could be using old stuff? [03:50] possible [03:50] did it build-dep on an early version of automake? [03:51] damnit, where did ajmitch go?? === welshbyte makes the ftbfs-tagged bug list 2 bugs smaller [03:52] w00t, go welshbyte === bddebian picks his nose [03:52] w00t, go bddebian [03:52] heh === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jimpop [n=jimpop@c-76-17-105-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-148-34.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] hello all [04:07] :) === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] Heya joejaxx [04:09] hello bddebian [04:09] how are you? [04:13] OK thanks, you? [04:13] that is good [04:13] i am well at the moment [04:13] well there's the thread, man I am burned out for today http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391970 [04:21] hello joejaxx [04:22] hello ajmitch === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] ajmitch: how are you? [04:22] rexbron: :P [04:22] alright [04:23] that is good [04:23] trying to get something built [04:23] me too [04:23] #95321: suspend/resume (RAM) fails for usb rootfs [04:23] hey joejaxx [04:23] bug 95321 [04:23] Malone bug 95321 in Ubuntu "suspend/resume (RAM) fails for usb rootfs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95321 [04:23] Hrm. I thought the suspend/resume scripts removed the hcd drivers. === ajmitch should just get bddebian to fix it [04:23] StevenK: yeah I can confirm that for sure :) [04:23] StevenK: but I expect that was a limitation of Linux.... [04:24] StevenK: presumably too much of the system unthaws before the usb block device is reprobed. [04:24] but I'm not an ACPI guy.... [04:25] ajmitch: bah, I can't fix anything.. :-( [04:25] ajmitch: BTW, you have any way to make notes on your RC bug page? [04:27] ajmitch: f-spot bugs [04:27] can I close needs info from more than 6 months?' === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] Burgundavia: depends on the bug [04:29] ajmitch: old crashers were you pinged the user in sept 2006 [04:29] ok [04:29] bddebian: I was going to [04:33] ajmitch: Well libembperl-perl won't build because it wants a newer apache2-prefork-dev than we have :-( [04:34] Oh my. I was just discussing that package in #debian-devel [04:34] Haven't we deja'd this vu? [04:34] bddebian: that's a shame [04:38] is there any place in Ubuntu that lists bugs by package? [04:38] s/ubuntu/lp/ === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] Burgundavia: uh, launchpad [04:39] ya, I caught that [04:39] tired [04:39] Burgundavia: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source//+bugs [04:39] work was hell today. bloody alarm tech cut half the wiring in the building [04:39] ugh [04:39] Hobbsee: no, I want a list of all packages and numbers of bugs, in a table [04:39] Burgundavia: ahhh... [04:40] Burgundavia: oh, that... [04:40] hmm, who is Matt Proud [04:40] ? [04:40] Burgundavia: if you can find a team that's a package contact for all bugs, you can use https://beta.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs [04:40] right [04:40] dont know of any other way [04:42] launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs gives you all open bugs [04:42] that isn't helpful [04:42] ugh [04:43] Burgundavia: Then you can search for all Universe with a bitesize tag or so. [04:44] StevenK: Which package, libembperl-perl? [04:44] bddebian: Yup [04:44] heh [04:44] Could probably drop the build-dep ver for apache2-prefork-dev to 3.2 but I haven't tried it === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] bddebian: you requested a sync of ldap-account-manager 1.2.0, when 1.1.1-2 has the security fix [04:55] (testing-proposed-updates vs unstable) [04:57] Huh? [04:58] Oh [04:58] Why not just get the latest? [04:58] why get the latest? [04:59] So reject it [05:00] it's just hard to justify to everyone involved why it should go in, apart from it being newer [05:01] changelog wasn't particularly informative [05:01] No worries, I just misread the page, so reject it === bddebian is easily confused by so many numbers :) [05:02] bddebian: 7 14 92 12 8 54 4 [05:02] aaaahhh [05:03] StevenK: how'd you get my calc exam grades! [05:03] jdong: Lucky guess [05:03] argh well you're not gettin my jackpot [05:03] jdong: Your backport bugs? You can keep those. :-P [05:03] lol === bddebian goes back to doing nothing [05:05] bddebian: ok, enjoy [05:07] Egads gnucash [05:09] when does archive freeze end? [05:10] 24 hrs, apparently [05:10] hello Hobbsee === ajmitch digs around for a laptop [05:12] hi aj [05:13] ajmitch: okay, bug 95334 is ready. [05:13] Malone bug 95334 in Ubuntu "freeze exception: new package apparmor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95334 [05:14] k, thanks === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] siretart, crimsun: I gotta beg you guys on that bug too. :) === ajmitch gets hacking on an initramfs policy loader for selinux [05:22] sweet [05:22] should have done it long ago [05:32] has anyone here installed ubuntu on a computer with a pci2ide card? [05:32] pci2ata i should say [05:33] keescook: looks good to me, +1 [05:33] ajmitch: :) [05:34] joejaxx: Yes. [05:34] I have two machines running off two such cards here. [05:34] I did an install of the beta yesterday on one of them, with no problems. [05:34] TheMuso: yeah it is messing up for me [05:34] joejaxx: What chipset? === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp43-10.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] TheMuso: i would have to look [05:35] Both mine are silicon image chipsets. [05:36] TheMuso: i would have to look [05:36] As you said. [05:36] but the problem is [05:36] Do you have a custom setup such as LVM/Software RAID? [05:36] i installed ubuntu restarted and was dropped to a busybox shell [05:36] Oh and how is it messing up? [05:36] Probably its got the wrong root. [05:36] root device even. [05:36] TheMuso: nope not yet [05:36] ok [05:37] If you know the module it uses, at least you can attempt to load that module using the shell and see what device nodes are created. [05:37] TheMuso: it recognizes the drives [05:38] Right. [05:38] i installed ubuntu to the drive on the mobo ide0 [05:38] ajmitch: That one OK? :) [05:38] not the pci2ata one [05:38] Right. [05:39] I have seen similar behavior before, and would say that the kernel is being given the wrong root device. [05:39] crimsun: sweet, thanks. [05:39] Mind you, since UUIDs are used now, I am not so sure about that. [05:40] yeah [05:40] bddebian: sorry? [05:40] You could mount the root device from busybox, and let the boot continue. Once into the install, rebuild initramfs/reconfigure grub. [05:42] ajmitch: Never mind, I'm being a smart ass === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] fine [05:45] crimsun, ajmitch: it's not clear to me how many motu-uvf's I need to ACK the exception? the 2007-02-23 meeting notes don't make it clear. [05:45] keescook: 2. [05:47] Hobbsee: okay, cool. Then I'll poke ajmitch some more. :) [05:47] keescook: :) [05:47] keescook: take the cluebat, though. you may need it [05:48] Hobbsee: uh-oh. what'd I miss? [05:49] keescook: for uvfe's :) [05:49] keescook: what should we set the going rate at? [05:50] they have lots of wine in seville, right? :) [05:50] heh === ajmitch is happy enough with it [05:51] it'd be good to have in universe for now & have some feedback for feisty+1 [05:51] ajmitch: that's why I've been cramming to try and get it in. :) [05:51] you see Novell did another NIH with thin clients? [05:52] it's not perfect, and needs more packages (libapparmor, etc etc) but this gets basic functionality. [05:52] http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1241507,00.html [05:52] Burgundavia: nope, what did they do? [05:52] NIH? [05:52] not invented here [05:52] ah [05:52] a derogatory term for people developing their own solution before looking around them [05:52] Novell is really bad at it [05:53] ajmitch, crimsun: okay, so that's a confirmation? should I go ahead and upload it so Mithrandir can beat me over the head with the NEW stick? [05:53] keescook: I'm sure he'll be nice about it [05:53] heh [05:53] now I think iwj offered to help with source NEW recently.. [05:53] cool [05:53] keescook: sure, paste the irc log in a comment just to be thorough [05:53] crimsun: okay, thanks. [05:55] Say, anyone know who the contact for the 'ati' driver is? [05:56] triaging contact? upstream contact? upstream upstream contact? [05:57] Erm, "It got borked in recent Feisty updates and is seriously crummy atm; wondering if you have any idea why?" contact. [05:57] that's the first. [05:58] It'll get to the correct person automatically when filed against the correct source package [05:58] Ah, cool. === tonyyarusso hits LP [05:58] (Timo) tepsi.pakki cares for them, generally [05:58] (fullstop intentional) [06:03] LaserJock! [06:03] hi guys [06:03] heya LaserJock [06:03] Now, gnight folks :-) [06:03] man, you're leaving? [06:04] Was planning on it, you need something? [06:04] bye bddebian [06:04] bddebian: nah, just sad to see you go ;-) === ajmitch wonders if samba & openldap will do a split config file [06:05] I had a meeting this morning, took the car to the shop, and drove to my grandpa's house [06:05] Heh, thx LaserJock, glad someone thinks so :-) [06:05] bddebian: I care [06:05] aw [06:05] so I haven't done anything *buntu today [06:05] ajmitch: gotta be quick [06:05] yeah [06:06] oh good, slapd.conf at least allows doing include /path/to/file [06:06] I wonder if it can include all files in a directory [06:07] hm even better [06:07] 2.3 lets it be in the directory itself === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] hmmm, SoC applications [06:33] hm? === ajmitch is unable to see any SoC applications, for obvious reasons ;) [06:34] I finally got my mentorship app approved [06:34] ah sweet [06:34] I see 81 applications [06:43] is my patch on bug #71753 usable at all? [06:43] Malone bug 71753 in xpdf "Incorrect path in man page" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71753 === Ardekantur [n=mcs532@c-69-248-68-225.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] i just used it as an excuse to relearn the packaging/patching tools === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] Hi RAOF [06:49] Howdie [06:50] Got anyone more knowlegeable than me to review your desktop-effects yet? [06:50] no but it's been suggested that I just patch the C version for now === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945516.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] and replace it with the python version in feisty+1 [06:51] so I'll do that later tonight [06:51] Yeah, I can sympathise with that. [06:51] also, PM === PupUserd3ae2b [n=PupUserd@C-59-101-236-129.bur.connect.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PupUserd3ae2b [n=PupUserd@C-59-101-236-129.bur.connect.net.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@c220-239-104-84.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] racarr: Ping? PM? [07:11] RAOF: Eh? [07:11] What I meant was I had sent you a few PMs and you didn't seem to have noticed [07:11] I was just wondering whether you'd seen any of the PM spam I've been sending you :) [07:11] err [07:11] no [07:11] none at all [07:12] Oh, that's not good. === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] zomg [07:16] imbrandon: ? [07:17] i'm busy as hell atm and cant make an educated statement on beryl atm, but just "wtf" [07:17] a new name again ? [07:17] if they wanna merge do it under the name compiz [07:17] yeah, I didn't catch that. What happened? [07:17] LaserJock, read planet [07:17] imbrandon: of course, it's a new week [07:17] i gotta fix a damn raid container at work, i'll be back in a few === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] LaserJock: Basically a few of us have been trying to merge with Compiz under a new name for around a month now [07:21] LaserJock: And Quinn finally came around to it, which is good because she was the only one not for it [07:23] hmm [07:24] oi [07:24] seems like having a 3rd name is kinda mesy [07:24] racarr, i'm all for it too but he should work with the original project to merge under the name compiz, what they forked from, thats how it works [07:24] LaserJock: just name it CrAp [07:24] nixternal: now now [07:24] hehe [07:24] nixternal, ... [07:24] ..., nodnarbmi [07:24] lol [07:25] imbrandon: It's a bit different than that [07:25] man, that was tough this late at night [07:25] imbrandon: 1. This isn't Beryl deciding they don't want to be a fork anymore, it's as much of an effort from Compiz as from Beryl. [07:26] and 2. The community is uncomfortable with just folding in under the name Compiz, as most everything from Beryl will be merged in to the new project [07:26] which means the codebase will be about 2/3rds Beryl, and 1/3rd Compiz [07:26] but still, seems hard for users [07:26] just change that big ol' red ruby/diamond icon is all I ask :) [07:27] Anybody on feisty/amd64 who can test if bug #2382 is still present? [07:27] maybe, but theres a lot of hostility between our communities LaserJock, and I think if we merged under either of the existing names === nixternal spins his cube [07:27] Malone bug 2382 in mysql-query-browser "mySQL Query Browser segfaults on AMD64" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2382 === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-15.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] that hostility would remain [07:27] well, I can understand [07:27] Fujitsu: I'll have a look [07:27] it's just frustrating when we just got all the packages in the repos [07:27] Thanks RAOF. We've got a tonne of old bugs :( [07:28] LaserJock: oh, I didn't even think about that [07:28] racarr, no whats going to happen is some will still use compiz, some will use beryl and some will use this new hybrid [07:28] i've seen it before [07:28] LaserJock: Understandable [07:28] Hello all - I'm having some trouble submitting a source package to REVU, could anyone help me? [07:28] imbrandon: Eh, I think that should fade pretty quickly because we can update all the repos that offer Beryl to use the new hybrid [07:28] site redirects, etc [07:28] you need to forget the animosity , get over it, and use one or the other, man this really really hit a nerve [07:29] Fujitsu: Oh, looking at the actual bug I don't think I have a remote sql server to connect to. [07:29] racarr, not just ubuntu, the linux community in general [07:29] Ardekantur: what problem? [07:29] brb [07:29] well yes but we can get the same thing done for gentoo, opensuse, etc easily [07:29] Fujitsu: I don't suppose you've got a public test type server? [07:29] RAOF: No, sorry. [07:30] Hm. [07:30] I'll see what I can do. [07:30] racarr, its not about a distro, its about the flimsy flip flop [07:30] I don't think it as a huge issue, just merge, drop all of the old. leave a note at the old hotel saying we in this room now, please come here instead [07:30] Hobbsee - I've registered in Launchpad, created a GPG key, signed the code of conduct, added myself to the universal contributor's group, retrieved the amulet of yendor, and I didn't get a notification when I dput my signed source binary [07:30] however the packages that recently made it in is going to be the big pain === jnair [n=jnair@203.123.188.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:30] ~source package [07:30] imbrandon: I'm happy that they're open to merging, at least [07:30] Ardekantur: is it actually on revu? [07:30] racarr, i spent a week in the same room with Quinn trying to get him to do this 6 months ago at google [07:30] Ardekantur: in the web interface? [07:31] ajmitch, +1 [07:31] Hobbsee, do you mean the front page of http://revu.tauware.de/ ? [07:31] Ardekantur: yep [07:31] Ardekantur: yes [07:31] no, fraid not [07:31] the package name is asciidoc === Hobbsee looks [07:32] Ardekantur: did you get the keyring synced? [07:32] imbrandon: pm [07:32] Ardekantur: er, how long ago did you uplaod this? [07:32] Hobbsee, i'm not sure, and yesterday [07:33] Ardekantur: you need to make the package for feisty no unstable [07:33] *not === ajmitch resynced the keyring earlier today === ajmitch moves the .changes file back into the queue [07:34] LaserJock - whoops :) should I try that and reupload to see if it shows up in five minutes? [07:35] no [07:35] wait about 1 minute & it should hopefully show [07:35] ajmitch: it's ok to hae it unstable? [07:35] *have [07:35] hm no, looks like it rejected again === ajmitch checks why [07:36] LaserJock: of course not, but it won't cause a reject [07:36] it won't? [07:36] I thought it rejected Debian releases [07:37] shouldn't do [07:37] I wasn't sure what the version number should be, because it's a major version change of a package that was originally in Debian [07:37] It's not intelligent enough to look at it, LaserJoc. [07:37] *LaserJock [07:38] Ardekantur: ok, are you sure you joined the team on launchpad? [07:38] and that you have your gpg key on launchpad? [07:38] gpg: Signature made Thu 22 Mar 2007 12:03:16 PM EDT using DSA key ID 9EE43354 [07:38] gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [07:38] given that I resynced the keyring about an hour ago, it should have picked up your one if it's on lp [07:39] i don't remember which order I did things in :/ [07:39] lp username? [07:39] ~mcs532 [07:40] heh [07:40] " Contributors of packages for ubuntu universe [07:40] Joined 57 minutes ago " [07:41] so you uploaded yesterday but only just joined === ajmitch resyncs again === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] ajmitch, i figured if it saw that i joined it might retroactively do something [07:43] nope [07:43] not unless the upload is requeued manually [07:44] ah === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1__ [n=superm1@12-226-238-227.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1__ is now known as superm1 [07:49] Ardekantur: it should be there now === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:50] ajmitch, Yes! Very much so. Thanks for your time and help. 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=== cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.180.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] I'm mostly awake [09:38] :p === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-15.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-40-144.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bojan [n=bojan@vie-086-059-017-025.dsl.sil.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.83] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DktrKranz [n=Luca@host152-111-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw9-ffc8c000-88.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.36.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] ... === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] imbrandon: do I have a jabberaccount on ubuntuwire.com? :-) [11:06] lemme look === Nafallo tries to connect again :-) === thekorn [n=thekorn@a81-14-162-232.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-18.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:09] Nafallo, i just restarted the webui , on sec [11:10] one* [11:10] sure :-) [11:10] seems I can't connect to the server anyway :-/ [11:10] it shows you as online now [11:10] yea, now :-) [11:10] thanks :-) [11:11] 2 nafallo silverfairy Authenticated [User is connected via SSL] [Online] Online 50 83.xxx.xxx.x [11:11] okies [11:11] so who else is there? :-P [11:11] we should have a shared roaster with all MOTUs ;-) [11:11] or something :-) [11:12] atm only 6 people reconnected ( i ended up killhuping the server ) [11:12] yea i can make a MOTU group, but its kinda redundant with irc and all ;) [11:12] 194 accounts :) [11:13] oh. are we that many? :-) [11:13] on ubuntuwire , MOTU + coredev is only 72 [11:13] ah :-) [11:15] Nafallo, http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/acct-blah.txt [11:15] thats the motu + core-dev list === Nafallo checks :-) === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:22] evening [11:22] heya ajmitch [11:23] morning ajmitch :-) [11:23] ajmitch, know if compact flash cards have the same limited write cycles that usb flash sticks have ? === imbrandon considers a minimal ubuntu install on a 1gb compact flash card via ide an adapter [11:25] imbrandon: afaik they do [11:25] just mount stuff noatime, don't use a journal, etc [11:25] yea [11:25] though you may be ok with ext3 & a journal [11:26] flatmate has a box downstairs with ubuntu on a 1GB CF card [11:26] actually no, it's etch :) [11:26] cool, yea i have a p2 500 with heatsync and such, would be a nice no moving parts quite system [11:27] something just to goof with at home [11:27] not even sure what i would use it for [11:27] i have dhcp/dns/file/web server already === TLE_02 [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] ( for the house ) [11:29] heh [11:29] the box he's using is a p166 [11:29] 64MB RAM [11:29] hehe [11:29] using it for uni stuff, to experiment with routing stuff === ajmitch starts an FDS biuld _again_ [11:30] yea this is a p2 500 with 128mb ram i just had arround [11:30] not even a case for it atm, just proc board,ram,power,cf+ide card [11:30] heh [11:31] he picked up 17 boxes I think [11:31] if i had the money i would get a mini-itx and make soemthing cool, maybe next payday [11:32] ex-uni that probably would have been thrown out [11:34] ;)\ === ajmitch should really use ccache for this [11:35] yea i've been meaning to set ccache up on the buildd pbuilders [11:35] they are already pretty fast with the new gdebi script though ;) [11:35] oh that's easy [11:36] oh yea i know, i've done it 1000 times, just havent got to it there yet === ajmitch has been meaning to get back to the sbuild/buildd setup [11:36] I'm not sure how well things will turn out with LVM snapshots [11:36] siretart has been having some issues still with snapshots === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@unaffiliated/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:37] that 160 is still in the server hooked up, just not mounted [11:37] if you need a testbed/drive [11:37] ajmitch: only in feisty :/ [11:37] aurora and intrepid are feisty [11:37] Hi [11:37] ajmitch: in edgy, things were working very fine. same in debian [11:37] hello === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] siretart: worrying [11:40] imbrandon has upgraded aurora to feisty :) [11:40] (iirc) [11:40] ah yes, you just mentioned that === ajmitch needs more caffeine [11:41] yea it was the easiest way to get lvm + gdebi pbuilders working right === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:41] ajmitch: the bugs are reported in lp, but it seems that nobody really knows an answer. I'm not ever sure if it's udev, dm-setup or whatever which is being so racy :/ [11:41] without backporting a ton of cruft [11:42] ajmitch: I really do hope that new upstream versions of dm-setup, libdevmapper, udev and so on will fix things at the beginning of goofy [11:42] Goofy!? [11:42] lol [11:42] StevenK, shush [11:42] ;) [11:42] I'm *not* uploading to a release called goofy [11:43] ;) [11:43] StevenK: just a joke from my side. I have really no idea how feisty+1 will be called [11:43] hum i wonder how a uvf for swfdec would look post-beta ;) [11:43] siretart: I have that aswell :-) [11:44] imbrandon: nah, youtube sucks anyway.. [11:44] ;) [11:44] siretart, hahaha you had the same idea ? heh [11:44] isn't xine 1.1.4 able to decode flvs? [11:44] siretart, since you and StevenK are both -uvf ( correct ? ) you think its worth my time to prepare a diff and such ? [11:45] aha! [11:45] Hrm. Didn't we have the same discussion for Feisty before it was named. [11:45] siretart, yea but its a pita [11:45] imbrandon: I'm -sru, not -uvf [11:45] *finally* fixed the FDS build [11:45] 1 missing -D in the flags [11:45] ahh right StevenK [11:45] Although it appears -sru doesn't exist, etc etc [11:46] who is -uvf? [11:46] -sru doesn't exist any longer [11:46] sru exists, i just did a mod-mono a few days ago ;) [11:46] imbrandon: ^ [11:46] oh ? [11:46] imbrandon: http://launchpad.net/~motu-uvf === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:47] how is there no sru ? === imbrandon looks puzzled now [11:47] procedure changed [11:47] i know but the new proceedures still call for a sru to upload [11:47] trust me i JUST did it , unless it changed again in the last 48 hours === ajmitch thought that any MOTU could upload now [11:48] but I'm vague on it [11:48] which is a bad sign, since I'm meant to know [11:48] they can to -proposed, but the final upload must be done by sru per the new policy [11:49] to -updates [11:49] imbrandon: the new procedure is that you upload directly to -proposed and call for testing === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs181189107.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:49] right, then once tested and 7days past, sru prepares an upload to -updates ( untill the souyz supports direct import ) [11:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU [11:50] -sru ceased to exist some weeks ago. [11:50] That page is wrong.. [11:50] It hasn't been properly updated. [11:51] if someone could properly update it please [11:51] I remember seeing in an email `motu-sru ceases to exist' [11:51] then fix it, because thats what we popint poeple to including myself that foloowed it two days ago === Fujitsu locates the email and updates the page accordingly. [11:51] whoever *knows* what the agreed-on procedure is :) [11:51] yay, shiny toys for me to play with [11:52] hum, not having someone look over sru's , bwhahahaha i can now update gnome with an sru and my other two LP accounts ;) [11:52] bwhahahahaha world domination ;) [11:52] Oh look, ajmitch is in Dubya mode === ajmitch cackles === imbrandon notes that page was updated 3 days ago [11:53] StevenK: I think you mean imbrandon is in dubya mode (world domination, etc) [11:54] ajmitch: No, no... "Oh, I don't know what the procedure i ...... oooooh, shiny toys for me to play with!" [11:54] StevenK: I've been trying to get this thing built for a few hours [11:54] ok, updated [11:54] but I got it going after I went out with friends & had a drink [11:54] see, beer solves all [11:55] heh [11:55] hehe [11:55] siretart, thanks === Fujitsu has no idea. === StevenK quotes Fujitsu out of context. === ajmitch tickles Hobbsee [11:56] time for a smoke, bbiab === Hobbsee throws beans at ajmitch === siretart off for shopping. cu later [11:56] l8tr siretart === Fujitsu attacks StevenK with something. [11:56] Bye siretart. [11:56] Heh. Something. [11:56] Hobbsee: you have a good throw to get them here [11:56] ajmitch: indeed. [11:56] Well, I can't use Hobbsee's stick, or I get kicked... And there's nothing else around. [11:59] fun, some americans are still annoyed at NZ over the no nuclear weapons thing === Fujitsu throws some nuclear weapons at ajmitch. [12:00] See, they're so cool. [12:00] thanks, I can use these === Fujitsu dodges them === proppy [n=proppy@free.mekensleep.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === proppy hugs dholbach === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-15.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host118-134-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@151.82.10.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] hi [12:08] hi [12:09] Hobbsee: Tonio uploaded it, not me :/. is it still b0rken? [12:10] lupine_85: 0ubuntu1 is. apparently 2 fixed it, but i've not seen that in the archive === ajmitch laughs & starts an FDS build in pbuilder [12:10] this should be interesting [12:10] lupine_85: not the source of it, nor the binary === ajmitch wonders if beryl & compiz will be one by feisty release [12:11] ajmitch: not our version, presumably. would take a while to merge. then again, if it's new, may as well be shoved in. [12:11] hmm. wonder where that's gotton to, then [12:11] ajmitch: seeing as bling doesnt obey freezes [12:12] which would also negate a lot of the reviewing, which people wont be too impressed about [12:12] 0.2 branch is quite different from master, so it makes sense to keep it in feisty [12:13] isn't most of the new stuff in beryl in the plugins? [12:13] no [12:13] Copy mode rendering, for instance... [12:14] if that can be merged in [12:14] & not rejected for being an ugly hack [12:14] heh. It's a hack, but not really ugly === proppy [n=ubuntu@free.mekensleep.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] iirc that was done at the last UDS [12:14] just theoretically slower [12:15] theoretically more memory-hungry too, aiui [12:15] yep... but people with terrible nVidia cards like it because it means they don't have to use Xgl [12:15] yeah [12:15] there's a bunch of other stuff as well; we're going to try to get as much merged as possible I think [12:17] what? [12:17] beer? [12:18] someone said beer [12:18] lol [12:18] it would be scarry to see a bunch of ubuntu devs in a room drinking beer/whiskey and packaging , oh wait thats UDS :) [12:19] haha [12:19] mmm whiskey [12:20] Highland Park, I presume? [12:21] highly doubtfull , normaly what ever mdz shows up with ;) [12:21] urgh, cheap whiskey :/ [12:21] no, not cheap [12:21] just his choice ;) [12:21] mmm, whiskey... === ajmitch saw a new bottle downstairs today === poningru much prefers port [12:22] but it was a birthday present for a flatmate [12:22] port can be nice [12:22] or vodka [12:22] mmm potato vodka [12:22] why did I read flamemate? :-) [12:23] ah, ok [12:23] as long as it's not Bell's, I guess :D [12:24] so should I try to reupload aquamarine? It seems two others have, and the packages seem to be getting swallowed.... === ajmitch looks at the build log & is unhappy [12:24] did anyone say vodka? [12:24] cinnamon vodka! === TomaszD is from Poland *hint* === Fujitsu is happily alcohol-free (not that there's much choice in the matter) [12:25] Fujitsu: s/happily // [12:25] You're a teenager, you're supposed to be angst-ridden! === Fujitsu angstily drops an anvil on StevenK. [12:26] cinnamon nah, currant vodka, now that's tasty [12:26] It has no affect! [12:26] bbl === StevenK has auto-compression-mode loaded. [12:28] Damn damn damn. [12:28] I should have thought of that. [12:28] Too obvious. [12:28] Don't try fire. Debian Developers are impervious to flame! [12:28] :-P [12:28] Hahah, true. [12:31] Debian Developers are creatures of fire [12:31] just don't feed the energy beast [12:31] I'd rather slay Sven Luther, if it's all the same. [12:32] reminds me, I haven't topped up on my weekly dose of angst, hate & bile [12:32] aka debian-private [12:32] ajmitch: I was thinking it was either -private or -devel [12:32] try iceweasel it's really efficient against creature of fire [12:32] ajmitch: Don't bother. === proppy hides [12:34] Is it really as bad as everybody says? [12:34] nah [12:34] it's often tame & boring [12:34] Fujitsu: Sometimes. Mostly, it's as ajmitch says. [12:34] OK. [12:35] It's angsty, hatefilled this week, though. === StevenK twitches. === ajmitch wonders why pbuilder is not picking up packages in his bind-mounted repository [12:35] since it's apparantly running apt-get update without issues [12:36] ajmitch: It's picking up the bad vibes from -private. === Hobbsee kicks the maths department [12:36] obviously === ajmitch just wants pbuilder to use the new packages I made [12:36] Hobbsee: What has it done now? Scheduled critical stuff during UDS? [12:36] ajmitch: FDS? [12:37] Fedora Directory Server [12:37] Fujitsu: it's done that too, actually. broken http://rutherglen.ics.mq.edu.au/math235s107/ again - or let computing department control it, where they've broken it. [12:37] Fujitsu: yeah, I need FDS to use the mozilla ldap sdk [12:37] I see what it's doing - outdated Packages file === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs181189107.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-038-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] Hobbsee: booked flights, got passport? [12:38] funny that I have to go to spain to see you again [12:38] ajmitch: no, and yes. [12:38] ajmitch: indeed. [12:38] ajmitch: i thought you'd want to avoid me like the plague :P === StevenK sighs about UDS again. [12:39] Hobbsee: only if you carry the plague [12:39] ajmitch: heh === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon sighs about UDS also === pirast [n=martin@p508B1978.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@249.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch wonders if he can sneak these packages into feisty past the freeze ;) [12:47] You can try. :-) [12:48] hi :) [12:48] hey Tonio_ [12:48] StevenK: yeah, it could be a challenge though [12:49] some of the packages are nowhere near ready [12:49] ajmitch: You might need to get Mithrandir, mdz, pitti, seb128, Keybuk and cjwatson all drunk, too. [12:49] they're good enough to give me the basics for getting other stuff built [12:49] oh I just want them in universe [12:49] Subvert the MOTU Council? [12:50] It worked for Kubu... oh, wait. === StevenK hides. === Fujitsu hastily agrees with StevenK, then runs away. Terribly fast. [12:51] it's not like anyone will want to run FDS === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] hello [12:52] hi pef [12:53] wootilicious, this version of aquamarine builds in pbuilder... how do I get it up? [12:53] make a debdiff and ask us to review/upload it :) [12:54] not REVU [12:55] fair enuf. On Launchpad? [12:55] yup, i presume its fixing a bug ( even if its not filed yet ) [12:55] file/attache it to a bug and poke us ;) [12:55] brb smoke [12:56] ftbfs bug :) === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] lupine_85: The upload has already happened [12:57] but the archive is frozen so it's queued [12:58] we had a version on REVU that built in a pbuilder for a LONG time === proppy [n=proppy@free.mekensleep.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] it's just whoever uploaded uploaded the wrong version of aquamarine === ivoks [n=ivoks@21-8.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] racarr: it's the git snapshot that got uploaded [12:59] well, the version uploaded builds in a pbuilder [12:59] probably just the automake dependency [12:59] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aquamarine/+bug/95430 [01:00] Malone bug 95430 in aquamarine "Aquamarine ftbfs " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.180.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] lupine_85: isn't that resolved ? [01:01] Tonio_: all the packages seem to be going into some black hole / freeze [01:01] bah! [01:01] lupine_85: oh right ubuntu beta isn't out... [01:02] I was lost because kubuntu beta is :) [01:02] pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi doesn't appear to like running with unauthenticated repositories [01:02] lupine_85: yes we have to wait fo the end of the freeze [01:02] ah right [01:03] beta is out, archive is still frozen in case of emergency post-beta fixes [01:03] should be unfrozen real soon now [01:03] well, if all 3 of us uploaded fixes, at we're doing /something/ right :D [01:03] ajmitch: ah ? I missed the announce then....... [01:03] lupine_85: not communicating? :) [01:03] hehe, that too === ajmitch mutters === jnair [n=jnair@203.123.188.10] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon mutters too , not to be left out === StevenK adds to the list of Debian contributions of 2006 thread on -project [01:27] Four GRs, and enough bile and angst to fuel every single teenagers life for the next 3 years. [01:28] heh [01:29] that's a lot fg angst [01:30] I stopped being a teenager recently, and didn't notice an appreciable loss of angst [01:31] Dunno if that's a good or bad thing === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] That'd be Debian. [01:34] Or something. [01:37] debian never really grows up [01:41] lupine_85: Yes it was the automake dependency but as I've said several times [01:41] theres already uploaded versions for ALL of the broken packages [01:41] it's just that archive is frozen [01:41] so they don't go in to archive until freeze comes up [01:46] Or they are shoved in. === ajmitch really should go & sleep [01:48] "just one more build of this" [01:49] hehe === StevenK points ajmitch to Ministry - Just One Fix [01:50] so glad I'm not building on my old box [01:51] Hrm. The lyrics of this song seem to describe building FDS. [01:51] workin aurora to death? hehe [01:51] Life keeps slipping away ... Fighting in a war with damnation ... Poised, keep cutting away ... I'm looking in through to salvation [01:54] hrm does the ubuntu kernel have openmosix patches already ? [01:54] imbrandon: no, I'd rather not build this on aurora [01:54] ajmitch, ahh i was just teasin a bit [01:54] aurora is more for people not like me, since I have a fast box & high latency to the US :) [01:55] right right, i still use my home box to compile mostly, its for "MOTU" hehe === StevenK sighs. Yes, debian/rules really really needs you to sprinkle it with @echo's [01:58] hahah [01:59] Argh! [01:59] /dev/hda5 9.2G 8.8G 0 100% /home [02:03] hi imbrandon [02:04] siretart, helped me yesterday to get to aurora etc, but today aurora wants password again [02:04] he also mentioned a bug in the importkeys script === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-251-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] one second lemme check [02:09] vil, ahh yea i see the problem with the script , give me a few minutes to fix it up [02:12] vil, ok should be fixed for now, i will perminately fix it here in a few minutes [02:12] sorry about that === vil thanks imbrandon [02:15] no need to be sorry, i am really glad you host this service [02:16] :) [02:16] imbrandon, well, i have yet another problem, that occured even yesterday [02:16] whats that > [02:16] ? [02:16] should i be setting bugs to "in progress" when i attach debdiffs to them? [02:16] when i try to use pbuilder for eclipse, i get W: Unable to locate package liblucene-java [02:17] imbrandon, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11846/ [02:18] however, it builds ok elsewhere [02:18] vil, use pbuilder-$release [02:18] like pbuilder-feisty [02:18] "pbuilder-feisty build *.dsc" [02:18] no sudo needed [02:20] imbrandon, cool, thanks again [02:20] np [02:20] this is really a great service, i would really like to see it grow [02:22] imbrandon, so is there a wiki page so that people get to know about it? or do you want to keep it in secret :) [02:24] imbrandon, i can help with a wiki page [02:26] service? === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs181189107.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] i dont keep it secret, and i have a placeholder for the page [02:26] just havent made one yet [02:27] racarr, i run a community build network so MOTU and core-dev have a machine to build on already setup with breezy,dapper,edgy,feisty,sid pbuilders [02:27] etc [02:27] on x86,ppc,sparc and soon amd64 [02:27] imbrandon: That's absurdely convenient === adamant1988 [n=chatzill@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] so sounds like a good thing :) [02:28] :) === StevenK ignores the convience by having his own x86, amd64 and sparc machines. [02:28] StevenK, hehe [02:28] now you have a ppc to play on ;) [02:28] And the latency of ~1ms is unbeatable. :-P === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] heh [02:29] ugh i hate this [02:29] StevenK, got a sec to help me with my script ? [02:29] for me, when I have only an older x86 laptop and build java stuff, it is really useful [02:29] you bash guru you [02:30] imbrandon: Sure. === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] imbrandon: If you promise to not call me that again. :-P [02:30] hehe [02:31] ok one sec lemme pastbin my script and then my problem [02:31] ok here is the script , and it works mostly , but only a few corner cases it dosent [02:31] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11848/ [02:31] let me give you examples what i need to fix [02:31] StevenK: there are worse things he could call you [02:31] MY EYES [02:32] ajmitch: :-P [02:32] ok first off, when i wget the +sshkeys its in dos LF , so i dos2unix it [02:32] BUT [02:32] people like vil have https://beta.launchpad.net/~vil/+sshkeys [02:33] multi line +sshkeys [02:33] normalys i would just tr -d "\r\n" < vil.ssh > vil.ssh [02:33] but that screws people like me with multi keys [02:33] https://beta.launchpad.net/~imbrandon/+sshkeys === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs181189107.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch waits for configure to fail [02:34] meh, missing sasl this time [02:34] StevenK, see my issue ? [02:35] or did i make no sense [02:35] I'm looking. [02:35] k [02:35] Yes, I get it. [02:36] so basicly i just need to figure out how to sanitize all the +sshkeys [02:36] Would 'You should do this in perl/python' be a cliched solution? [02:36] racarr, will i was trying to KISS ;) [02:36] imbrandon: The problem is, you need to parse the file. And doing that in shell will drive you mad. [02:37] StevenK, yea i noticed ;) [02:37] imbrandon: I do have a suggestion for the wget at the top. [02:37] ? [02:37] perl -pi ? [02:37] imbrandon: wget -q -O - >> /tmp/all.txt [02:38] umm how is that any better >? [02:38] You could probably use a few perl -es to sanitize the ssh keys... [02:38] imbrandon: You save two cats. :-) [02:38] ohh so umm [02:39] And duh. [02:39] cat /tmp/motu.html /tmp/ubuntu-core-dev.html > /tmp/all.txt [02:39] heh [02:39] cat does take multiple arguments. [02:39] if [ -n "proceed" ] ; then [02:39] see i'm not a bash guy, ;) [02:39] That will always work [02:40] I think you need a $ there [02:40] what does dos2unix do? [02:40] ahh jesus [02:40] racarr, converts from dos line feeds to unix ones [02:40] Like flip [02:40] ah, ok [02:41] It can be done with tr, but imbrandon is lazy. :-P [02:41] heh [02:41] no imbrandon isnt a bash guru ;) [02:41] dos2unix == perl -pi -e 's/\r//' ? [02:42] Sounds about right. [02:42] 's/\r\n/\n/' [02:42] tr -d '\r' [02:42] all the same ;) [02:42] i normaly always install sysutils anyhow soooo [02:42] ok hrm [02:43] dos2unix is in tofrodos [02:43] to redo this in python or not [02:43] racarr, and sysutils depends on tofrodos [02:43] ewhich [02:43] right [02:43] ...just found that [02:43] heh [02:43] :) [02:43] I thought I had sysutils installed === StevenK curses. scheme-r5rs, you have to exist somewhere! [02:44] crap, this is gonna make me learn python [02:44] lol === imbrandon grumbles [02:44] you don't really learn python, you just forget bits of other languages and you're there [02:44] imbrandon: I know Python as well. [02:45] pirast: ping (about uscpi-tcp) ? [02:45] I like python but think perl is better suited for replacing bash [02:45] replacing bash scripts [02:45] racarr: Heathen! [02:45] perl == devil [02:45] i already maintain one perl script, not gonna another [02:45] :) [02:45] Which [02:45] ? [02:45] apt-mirror === StevenK has a whole tree of Perl to look after for $WORK [02:46] dunno if there is an equivalent of -pi for python [02:46] apt-mirror == a whole heap of perl [02:46] hahah i just noticed i'm doing the same cut | blah blahb lbah twice too [02:47] jesus [02:47] ugh, I have a really strange bug as of the last few days [02:47] once before the for loop and once in it [02:47] setting rgba colormap on ANY pygtk window [02:47] makes it effectively die (most widgets just stop rendering) [02:47] python -c "import sys; print sys.stdin.read().replace('\r\n', '\n')" [02:50] heh === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] dpkg-deb: building package `fedora-ds-core' in `../fedora-ds-core_1.1~cvs.20070324-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb'. [02:52] dpkg-deb: building package `fedora-ds-core' in `../fedora-ds-core_1.1~cvs.20070324-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb'. [02:52] dpkg-deb: building package `fedora-ds-core' in `../fedora-ds-core_1.1~cvs.20070324-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb'. [02:53] bah [02:53] bah irssi [02:53] at least it built ;) [02:53] hehe [02:53] some minor RH idiocies [02:54] -rwxr-xr-x root/root 8649 2007-03-25 01:52 ./etc/rc.d/init.d/fedora-ds === StevenK twitches [02:54] but I'm happy for now, and can go & sleep :) === blueCommand [n=bluecomm@unaffiliated/bluecommand] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] mr_pouit, pong [03:04] imbrandon: Do you know if there used to be a libdbus1-dev package? [03:04] pirast: I think it is a problem with the debian/rules :/ [03:04] mr_pouit, i got dsc & co, ran a pbuilder against it and it worked [03:05] imbrandon: Because there snot now, and beryl-plugins depends on it [03:05] but beryl-plugins built in a pbuilder, right? [03:05] it's libdbus-1-dev now [03:05] mr_pouit, also, there seems to be a lot which is not right.. apt-get source uscpi-tcp does not work for example [03:06] pirast: this package is really, really "exotic" ^^" [03:06] both qmail and ucspi-tcp :/ [03:06] mr_pouit, uh oh, just read your comment [03:06] mh i am sorry.. [03:06] wrong guess on my side [03:07] :( [03:07] no harm ;) does someone have an idea about this ? ^^" [03:08] Bug #95469 [03:08] Malone bug 95469 in ucspi-tcp "[feisty] FTBFS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95469 [03:08] can someone upload http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/beryl-plugins/dbusfix.patch [03:08] for beryl-plugins ? [03:08] (it's a debdiff not a patch) [03:09] and http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/corefpic.debdiff === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] A debdiff is a patch [03:10] Err, yes but what I meant was [03:10] it wasn't something I needed someone to put in debian/patches and they would know after clicking [03:10] but === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] has the other been published yet? [03:11] you might wanna wait on the upload untill the last one was published [03:11] mr_pouit, maybe sync 0.88-13 from debian: Cleaned up rules script to allow autobuilding [03:11] imbrandon: Err, core one already seems to be uploaded [03:11] imbrandon: And plugins wont build without the plugins one being uploaded... [03:12] err [03:12] plugins one is uploaded as well, they just showed up now [03:12] pirast: same problem :/ [03:12] (I had asked someone to upload them yesterday but had to leave before everything was finished) [03:12] so NEVERMIND all that [03:12] pirast: and I merged qmail from the same maintainer, and it has also the same issue :x [03:12] mr_pouit, how do you check? [03:13] mr_pouit, maybe contact the debian maintainer on irc and ask him if he has an idea / would fix it [03:13] mr_pouit, or file a bug against it in debian and then hope that the maintainer is very active :) [03:14] pirast: I just did an "apt-get source ucspi-tcp" (I have Debian unstable deb-src in my sources.list ;) [03:14] mr_pouit, but how do you find out that it does not build with buildd? :) [03:14] pirast: ok, I'll ping an archive-admin to see if he can help me for this, then the debian maintainer, and eventually report a bug ^^ [03:15] mm [03:15] pirast: there is the same dependency in debian/rules binary-src target [03:15] ahh k [03:15] mr_pouit, okay good luck :) [03:15] new beryl-plugins doesn't even have a pending build [03:15] thanks ^^" === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-27-73.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@unaffiliated/redguy] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PhinnFort [n=martin@unaffiliated/phinnfort] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@201.53.55.52] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] if there is a sponsor with time, please, check my patches: https://launchpad.net/~wendell/+assignedbugs?search=Search&field.status=In+Progress === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nox-Hand [i=johnhand@unaffiliated/nox-hand] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] jwendell: bug 78055 can probably just be rejected [03:43] Malone bug 78055 in ubuntu-restricted-extras "ubuntu-restricted-extras depends on sun-java5; sun-java6 is now available" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78055 [03:43] Amaranth, why? [03:44] apparently that's be design [03:44] java6 doesn't always work were java5 did [03:45] Amaranth, i guess not... === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] shouldn't bug 53085 be done as a patch in the build system instead of directly applying the patch to the source? [03:46] Malone bug 53085 in zapping "Wrong zapping icon" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53085 [03:46] using dpatch or quilt or whatever [03:46] Amaranth, not always [03:46] depends on the package and patch etc [03:46] imbrandon: I'd say always but that's because I like things clean :) [03:47] i say not always because thats policy, if upstreams dosent have a patchsys inplace then we dont make one [03:47] really? [03:47] yes realy [03:47] upstream being debian? [03:47] most of the time, yes [03:48] that seems..painful [03:48] that keeps deltas small [03:48] jwendell: oh, and it looks like you're actually undoing a change crimsun did with that patch [03:48] if its a major overhaul get it in debian ;) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] Amaranth, what? [03:50] Heya gang [03:50] heya bddebian [03:50] Hi imbrandon [03:50] * Resynchronise with Debian (Closes: #4022): [03:50] - Fix desktop file to not use absolute path. [03:50] -- Daniel T Chen Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:07:34 +0000 [03:52] i wonder if it was broken for nearly a year or if something else messed it up === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.145.169.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] Amaranth, what would you suggest? [03:52] it needs to be undone, i guess :) [03:52] Amaranth, that desktop file IS broken, i just fixed it [03:53] yeah, i guess that patch is fine === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon groans ... === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:05] hey im trying to get onto #ubuntu-motu-school but its always greyed out, whats going on? [04:08] sacater: because it's now #ubuntu-classroom ? [04:08] Hobbsee: hmm [04:09] irssi isnt letting me create any new window [04:12] is it true that you cant join over 21 channels on freenode.net unless you are a developer === CarlFK [n=carl@c-24-13-53-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] sacater: there's a 20 channel limit, yes. [04:13] sacater: not just developers. people having good reasons to [04:14] Hobbsee: i see [04:14] Hobbsee: what if my reason is that I have lots of things to do? [04:15] ask a staffer [04:15] Any main-sponsor out there? [04:15] could you please review bug #95238? [04:16] Malone bug 95238 in check "Please sync check 0.9.4-3 (main) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95238 === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@82.98.16.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE_02 [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] whatever you do, please stop entering and leaving channels :) === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe [n=tsmithe@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] how often does launchpad check for depwaits being resolved? === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] Amaranth, did you commit? === paran [n=paran@cust.fiber-lan.snet.lk.212.214.112.112.visit.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] jwendell: i can't [04:28] was just commenting === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:31] racarr, 2 times an hour iirc on publisher runs [04:31] :( it decided to build beryl-plugins before beryl-core [04:31] and beryl-plugins have a >= on libberyldecoration-dev 0ubuntu2 [04:31] because of the -fPIC fix [04:31] sure, no biggie, it will rebuild next run [04:34] you would think it could be intelligent enough to prevent that [04:35] its just a queue fifo, but it all works out young padiwan ;) === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@195.197.238.82] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@200.68.69.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === math_b [n=mathieu@ANantes-157-1-96-55.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] well done everyone for getting beryl sorted [05:06] :) === bddebian didn't do anything === soc [n=soc@p54adc956.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] spe doesn't work in feisty... [05:08] it complains that it needs wxpython 2.5.... at least [05:09] when you comment the section out, it's clear, that the problem is because wxpython is newer on feisty than spe expects it ... [05:09] SO fix it or file a bug :-) [05:09] feisty has something like wpyton 2.6.3 and spe was written with 2.6.1 or something [05:10] I'm not really an experienced python developer, but how can I send in a patch? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] File a bug and attach the patch to the bug report === givre [n=Florent@82.98.16.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:15] do the "Ubuntu Sponsors for Universe" work on weekends? :) [05:17] welshbyte: I'm sure the enthusiastic ones work around the clock :D [05:19] hehe :) [05:21] Or the sick ones, depending on how you look at it :) [05:21] i'm just interested to see whether the 2 debdiffs i've attached to bugs since last night have been done sufficiently so i can carry on doing the same for other bugs with more confidence === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] positive reinforcement, and all that :) [05:22] bddebian: meh it's not a disease, it's a _lifestyle choice_ :D [05:23] ok [05:23] just looked at spe === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-27-73.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] it seems that wxversion.ensureMinimal() fails [05:26] even if the version used is greater than WX_VERSION = '2.5.4.1' [05:26] jdong: :-) [05:27] a quick fix is to comment out 'sys.exit' if the check faisl [05:27] fails [05:27] (in SPE.py) [05:27] in fact we don't nedd that check because it's handled by package dependencies [05:28] soc: it would be good to have all this info in a bug report, that way the right people can handle it properly :) [05:29] I _hate_ bugreports :-) [05:30] aw don't be like that, they get things done :) [05:30] sabdfl, :) [05:30] racarr, did the depwait work itsself out ? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-84-120.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] imbrandon: Err, it's pending now on i386, so yeah === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] cool [05:31] yea thats good [05:31] should be published within inthe hour then [05:32] StevenK, you still awake ? [05:33] welshbyte, yea some of us do, what bug numbers ? [05:33] bug 40782 and bug 71753 [05:33] Malone bug 40782 in fceu "No desktop file" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40782 [05:33] Malone bug 71753 in xpdf "Incorrect path in man page" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71753 [05:34] they're only trivial, i was using them to relearn the ropes [05:34] (bitesize tags rock) [05:34] yup, looks like your doing it right ( just from a quick glance ) [05:34] cool [05:34] thanks :) === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === danohuiginn [n=ant@p54bee780.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === math_b [n=mathieu@ANantes-157-1-134-208.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] keescook, hi :) [05:52] uh oh, weekend [05:53] welshbyte: https://launchpad.net/bugs/95539 [05:53] Malone bug 95539 in spe "spe doesn't run because check for wxpython fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] is that ok? [05:55] pirast: hiya :) [05:55] keescook, no weekend? [05:56] pirast: it's the weekend; just doing work on mythtv, hanging out. [05:56] keescook, ok :) did you see the asterisk + phpmyadmin debdiffs? [05:57] would be nice if you could apply them later [05:57] pirast: yup, I did, thanks! Which of the debdiffs did you get a chance to test? [05:58] against a exploit, none.. :( [05:58] pirast: but it was tested that the code still runs, etc? === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] nope :( doing now with all === soc [n=soc@p54adc956.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:00] keescook, good that you ask :( [06:01] pirast: heheh, no problem. [06:01] sorry === roico [n=roico@bzq-88-155-106-78.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] keescook, you know what would be great.. [06:03] something to push updates to [06:03] then i do not have to run pbuilder [06:03] one click on publish and it lands in the archives === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] pirast: i saw you deactivated your beta membership - any reason why? === jimpop [n=jimpop@mbe4b36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] sabdfl, lp was slow to me, hoped that leaving beta team would change that :) === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs181189107.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] pirast: ok [06:09] jesus, #ubuntu is packed! [06:10] not sure whether thats good or bad === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] sabdfl, but it didn't really change that. also, i often forgot to remove the "beta." in the url when giving links to other people, so that they ended up with a login.. [06:13] sacater: as long as everyone is nice to one another, it must be a Good Thing :-) [06:13] sabdfl: well.... i had about 3 questions directed at me in about half a minute [06:13] hard to keep up :P [06:14] pirast: there is a bug about that, to redirect to non-beta to non-beta-testers :) [06:14] though it isn't implemented yet, AFAIK [06:14] pochu, uh oh :) [06:15] also, pirast, you can turn off the redirect for chunks of two hours, at the launchpad.net home page [06:15] but... too late now :-) [06:15] the predeccesor (cant spell), of my pda (a gentoo dev) left a huge memo, and it was a file of practice questions that he may be asked when he applied for dev (he was trainee at the time). My question is thus, is there a sort of practice thing for motu trainees, and if not, could someone compose one? [06:16] sabdfl, yeah, i know.. but clicking a button every two hours is not that nice ;) also, i want to have a little bit of a surprise when the new lp ui goes public and is final :P [06:16] sacater: please, no NM process [06:16] pirast: new launchpad ui? [06:16] Q-FUNK: eh? [06:17] i am also missing that with ubuntu.. when running development releases, there are no surprises when a new release goes final.. :P [06:17] sacater: i think Q-FUNK is saying he'd prefer to keep the process of becoming a MOTU a more fluid one :-) [06:17] pirast: yes, i know that feeling! [06:18] sacater: see https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-beta-testers [06:18] sabdfl: whats wrong with practice questions :'( [06:18] pirast: will do [06:18] sabdfl: indeed :) [06:18] sacater: nothing - it would i think be very cool to have a knowledgebase like that [06:19] Any main-sponsor out there? [06:19] pirast: i just joined. id love to beta the new ui === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:20] sacater: we need a knowledge base of sample packaging and maintaining situations, but IMHO we'd rather avoid turning the process of becoming a MOTU into pointlessly rigid testing process. [06:20] Q-FUNK: i see youre point, fair enough [06:20] i could upload the test my mate took if he dosnt mind [06:21] gentoo dev [06:21] sacater: that would be interesting [06:21] sabdfl: ok [06:21] give me 10 mins max [06:21] could you please review bug #95238? [06:21] Malone bug 95238 in check "Please sync check 0.9.4-3 (main) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95238 [06:21] sacater: promise not to post any screenshots of stuff you see on beta till it lands on production? [06:23] sabdfl: if someone approves me, of course not [06:23] that would be a blasphemy [06:23] etc etc [06:23] :P [06:24] if anyone here does a bit of perl or likes using the tea text editor, you can join my tea-dev team :D [06:24] done === ScottK thinks it's too bad the LP beta isn't faster. Speed is his biggest gripe with LP at the moment. [06:25] ScottK: we need to figure out how to run most of it over http, and only use https for security-critical info [06:25] ScottK: all launchpad is slower than normal for me [06:26] it's probably also getting a bit of a thumping due to the beta [06:26] sacater: Not just today, but in general. [06:26] ScottK: :P, i was refering to the last few weeks [06:26] Makes sense about https being a performance block and a tricky one to get right. [06:26] sacater: Last few weeks I agree have been slower than usual. [06:26] but LP at it's fastest has never been fast IMO. [06:27] IMO? [06:27] In My Opinion. [06:29] sabdfl: hmm, cant seem to copy the memo onto my MMC [06:31] keescook, feisty asterisk compiles, installs, runs [06:34] off now, have a nice evening :) [06:34] bye === mark007 [n=mark@pool-71-101-177-43.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] WOW [06:35] nice ui === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945516.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] sabdfl: do you know who approved me onto the betas? [06:42] sacater: himself [06:42] sacater: the beta rocks, isn't it? :) === somerville32 [n=fedora@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] pochu: yes, [06:43] sabdfl: thanks [06:44] Hiya _o/ [06:44] sacater: haven't you received a mail saying who has approved you? [06:44] sacater: you're welcome === somerville32 is in the hospital bathroom trying to hang onto some rogue wifi signal. [06:44] somerville32: :P [06:44] ohhh beryl-plugins is building on i386 [06:44] i do that (not in the hospital though [06:45] racarr: beryl pwns [06:45] hehe [06:45] yay, it didn't fail this time [06:46] I just tried beryl yesterday and everyone on the unit thought it was so cool. I told them to get Ubuntu instead of Windows Vista - they all asked me for a copy. hehe. [06:50] I don't even know WTF beryl is :-) [06:50] And Vista is a joke anyway :-) [06:50] bddebian: beryl pwns [06:50] eyecandy === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.36.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:54] I've read somewhere that beryl is going to re-join compiz :) [06:54] maybe it was just a dream [06:55] that's certainly the topic of the day [06:55] then is it true? :) [06:55] pochu, yes , most likely [06:56] http://lists.beryl-project.org/pipermail/beryl-dev/2007-March/000356.html [06:56] looking :) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@249.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] no..... compiz and beryl............ my generation has only known beryl.... [07:13] sabdfl: sorry, cant get the memo off my PDA, the gentoo dev secured it [07:13] smart guy [07:14] sabdfl: yeh, hes out powerboating [07:15] MERGE! no, i dont want a comperl [07:15] MERGE! no, i dont want a comperliz [07:17] I don't think we are likely to go with either of those names [07:17] :P [07:18] if anyone sees any small/easy bugs in launchpad please assign to me, (Sam Cater), i want some wokr [07:18] work* [07:19] sacater: take a look here: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize [07:21] pochu: okies [07:21] anyone interested in 90529 [07:21] https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmms-status-plugin/+bug/90529 [07:21] Malone bug 90529 in xmms-status-plugin "feature request: Remove from the gnome taskbar" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [07:23] could you please review bug #95573 [07:23] Malone bug 95573 in pyx "Please merge pyx 0.9-4 from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95573 [07:23] Gooooood Morning MOTU Land! === danohuiginn [n=ant@p54bee780.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] good evening LaserJock :) [07:24] hi welshbyte === proppy [n=proppy@free.mekensleep.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:25] did robin williams just join motu? [07:25] nanu nanu [07:25] he's been here for some time ;-) [07:25] hi LaserJock === welshbyte stares at a rather messy debian/rules file [07:26] I've done that at various times forever and Q-FUNK's the first person to say anything [07:26] sacater: hi [07:26] *chuckles* [07:26] LaserJock: me got launchpad betas :D [07:27] love it [07:27] sacater: cool [07:27] do they have a rent-o-soyuz franchise on the lauchpad now? do I finally get to visit khazakstan? [07:28] Q-FUNK: I wondered if anybody had ever watched it. Sometimes cultural references just don't work [07:28] Are there 2 MOTU-uvf members? Bug #95514 [07:28] Malone bug 95514 in wxwidgets2.8 "[UVFe] wxwidgets 2.8.3.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95514 [07:28] Q-FUNK: heh [07:29] LaserJock: then again, it was an american movie. they're everywhere now [07:29] Hey can someone review bug/78055, a debdiff has been uploaded 6 hours ago, time to release it! [07:30] +bug/78055 [07:30] hmm [07:30] work ubugtu! [07:30] aha! [07:30] #78055 [07:30] bug #78055 [07:30] Malone bug 78055 in ubuntu-restricted-extras "ubuntu-restricted-extras depends on sun-java5; sun-java6 is now available" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78055 [07:30] yays [07:31] see u guys! === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [n=mwolson@class215.cc.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-074-017-046.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] freenode.net has a 21 chatroom limit, but I understand that developers/people who need it can get more. Can anyone explain this to me further, as I need more channel space [08:17] sacater: you'd probably need to talk to freenode staff [08:18] LaserJock: ah yes, and I would perform that ability how? [08:18] LaserJock: also, whats an ubuntu cloak [08:19] sacater: there are freenode channels [08:19] erm [08:19] could you be more precise [08:19] please. [08:19] sacater: I don't know what one is the best, but google/freenode website will know [08:20] google for freenode? [08:20] the cloaks are ubuntu members and masks the ip/address that they are connectiong from [08:20] LaserJock: oh ill get one of those if i can [08:21] where do i talk to freenode staff, is there a channel? [08:21] sacater: you get one when you become and Ubuntu Member [08:21] LaserJock: ubuntero? [08:21] along with an @ubuntu.com email address [08:21] sacater: no, Ubuntu Member [08:21] hmm === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] sacater: run a /whois LaserJock [08:23] cool [08:23] hmm [08:23] https://beta.launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers [08:23] have I made a substantial contribution [08:23] :D [08:23] you need more I'd think [08:24] generally ~2 months of sustained contribution is about right [08:25] LaserJock: what about helping newbies along, (I do that a lot) [08:26] can someone tell me how to become a launchpad beta tester? [08:26] jussi01: you should ask an administrator of the beta team === lightsee1 [n=bones@bas10-toronto12-1096756048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:27] sacater, can you name one or 2? [08:27] hi === yosch [n=yosch@sal63-1-82-243-96-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:27] jussi01: hang on [08:27] im not an motu [08:28] jussi01: ask in #lunchpad [08:28] but i have an blender 2.43 [08:28] jussi01: https://beta.launchpad.net/~launchpad-beta-testers [08:28] sacater: user support certianly is a contribution === lakin [n=lakin@S01060030ab12b2fb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] jussi01: whoops [08:28] sacater: don't give them beta. addresses to learn about Beta ;-) [08:28] jussi01: https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-beta-testers [08:29] LaserJock: ^^ === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] any way this blender is 2.43 and i dont see why it cant be in the repo now [08:30] :D thanks sacater, LaserJock [08:31] lightsee1: we already have 2.43 [08:34] ok [08:34] its in the edgy repo? [08:35] <_MMA_> Should be in Feisty. [08:36] lightsee1: try to get all your newer packages from the feisty repo, [08:36] FEISTY IN about A MONTH! === Bubble [i=Bubble@unaffiliated/bubble] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:42] lightsee1: it's in Feisty, you can file a backport request to Edgy if it's not already there in edgy-backports === jussi01 [i=Jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-18.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945516.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55] I have some difficulties running the newly uploaded beryl [08:55] any hint, how to debug what is wrong and why i don't get window decorations? === tsmithe [n=tsmithe@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-18.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matt_good [n=matt@206.106.238.42] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@cust-03-55bf3757.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe [n=tsmithe@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@cust-03-55bf3757.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe [n=tsmithe@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:51] morning [09:54] ajmitch: evening here but morning [09:54] hi ajmitch ;-) [09:54] LaserJock! LTNS! ;) === ajmitch kicks LaserJock for good measure [09:56] now now, violence :P [09:57] he started it [09:57] hi ajmitch === LaserJock pokes ajmitch with Hobbsee's stck [09:57] LaserJock, so did nothing come of trying with getting the old packages in? [09:58] tsmithe: I think they're in [09:58] you mean Hobbsee lets you borrow her stick? :'( [09:58] oh what? === tsmithe apt-caches again [09:58] I stole it for a while [09:58] it's not in the mirrors yet [09:58] I don't think [09:58] enblend is just in binary NEW [09:58] I'm not sure where wired went though [09:58] LaserJock: I spent last night hacking on FDS, rather than authtool [09:59] well, that's cool too [10:00] yeah, I ended up not going to bed until I had a package built [10:01] LaserJock, oh cool === ajmitch really has to replace that RHish initscript for it === tsmithe wonders where wired got to [10:06] anyone know the most common boot resolutions? [10:06] wired was rejected! [10:06] anyone know why? [10:06] or how i can find out? [10:07] depends on who uploaded it [10:07] tsmithe: who uploaded it? [10:07] erm... i can't remember... [10:07] can i find that out also? === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [10:09] tsmithe: check the signature on the changes file [10:09] ahh good idea [10:10] hmm... how do i take the signature and decode it? [10:10] can i just pipe it to gpg? [10:10] yes [10:11] Adri2000 did the last one [10:11] LaserJock: ajmitch do you all know what the most common boot video resolutions are? [10:11] geser, what gpg command do i need to use? [10:12] tsmithe: gpg will probably complain about the missing key but it will tell you which one it is and you can look it up on the keyserver [10:12] gpg changes.file [10:12] yea, sure [10:12] hmm ok :) [10:12] and which tz is Adri2000 in? [10:12] no sure [10:12] I think sistpoty did the first upload [10:12] not sure who'd get the email [10:14] tsmithe: Timezone: Europe/Paris === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:14] right, so it should be 2214 for him [10:14] i [10:14] * [10:15] *i'll pm him [10:15] (silly new keyboard) === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-103-250.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] back later [10:18] have fun === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.77] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@cust-03-55bf3757.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] tsmithe: where you the person in the changelog for wired? [10:34] yea [10:34] I'm thinking of filing a bug [10:35] so reject emails go to both the uploader and the person in the changelog [10:35] or something like that === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] we could even make them publicly availble, but I'm not sure if contributrs want that ;-) [10:36] LaserJock: They don't? I know acceptance ones do... [10:36] LaserJock, i do! [10:37] why wouldn't they? [10:38] well [10:38] it's kinda embarassing [10:38] to some people [10:38] they can look back on their stupidity and laugh when they are more experienced. or at least i would. [10:38] especially during motu council meetings [10:38] actually [10:39] rejects should maybe go to the MOTU ML [10:39] That's not such a bad idea, LaserJoc. [10:39] individual uploaders come and go === Fujitsu curses bad XChat habits... [10:39] and cc the packager? [10:39] but we are MOTU [10:39] tsmithe: the issue is it might not be trivial to do [10:39] I think right now it looks for info in the .changes file [10:40] LaserJock: There is a Changed-By field in the .changes. [10:40] it's just an email... if it's already being sent, isn't it as trivial as adding more headers, parsing the changes file? [10:40] Fujitsu: hmm, that might work [10:41] but emailing ubuntu-motu would at least be sufficient [10:41] That's used for acceptance, but apparently not rejection. [10:41] people can check the list archives [10:41] Maybe rejection from NEW, but not rejection from the upload queue. [10:42] There are a fair few rejections due to dodgy versions and similar, which we probably don't want spammed to -motu. [10:42] oh yeah [10:43] I'm just talking about NEW [10:43] Good, I hoped so. === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpon [n=jpniane@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@189.198-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:48] sacater, around? === adamant1988 [n=chatzill@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] lupine_85: aquamarine was rejected........ [10:50] don't understand why... [10:52] The rejection message should give an error on one of the early lines. [10:53] Tonio_: There is already a 0ubuntu2 there. [10:53] Uploaded by sistpoty for racarr. [10:54] heh [10:55] Weren't there three fixes prepared independently for that one? [10:57] Any of you Core 2 Duo experts? === bronson [n=bronson@76.202.197.80] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:14] man, my LP bugmail has really piled up [11:16] Tonio_: heh, yeah [11:16] it was an easy fix so everyone piled in ;) [11:19] Hey MOTUs. === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp43-10.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === adamant1988 [n=chatzill@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:48] lupine_85: yeah but why rejecting the package ? [11:49] because there's already one in the system somewhere [11:49] can't have 2 packages with the same version === pirast [n=martin@p508b1978.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:50] Tonio_: I can see why it wouldn't have given a reason. [11:51] It would have gone into UNAPPROVED because we were still frozen, so was manually rejected (probably by Mithrandir). It will tell you why if it's done automatically, but not manually. === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] Fujitsu: ah okay ;) === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] could anyone please apply the patch in bug 45909? thanks [12:03] Malone bug 45909 in Baltix "ndisgtk doesn't install driver" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45909 === Marsmensch [n=daniel@dslb-084-056-117-216.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] bddebian: pingy pingy