[12:13] <_StefanS_>     KDEsuDialog(QCString user, QCString auth_user, bool enableKeep, const QString& icon , bool withIgnoreButton=false);
[12:13] <_StefanS_> 	KDEsuDialog(QCString user, QCString auth_user, bool enableKeep,const QString& icon, bool withIgnoreButton=false, WFlags f = 0);
[12:13] <_StefanS_> ?
[12:14] <manchicken> Yes.
[12:14] <_StefanS_> uhm ok..
[12:17] <_StefanS_> hey hobs
[12:19] <Hobbsee> heya _StefanS_ :)
[12:20] <_StefanS_> manchicken:
[12:20] <_StefanS_>     KDEsuDialog(QCString user, QCString auth_user, bool enableKeep, const QString& icon , bool withIgnoreButton=false);
[12:20] <_StefanS_> 	KDEsuDialog(QCString user, QCString auth_user, bool enableKeep,const QString& icon, bool withIgnoreButton=false, WFlags f = 0);
[12:20] <_StefanS_> argh
[12:20] <_StefanS_> manchicken: error: default argument given for parameter 6 of KDEsuDialog::KDEsuDialog(QCString, QCString, bool, const QString&, bool, uint)
[12:21] <manchicken> Yeah, you put the default on the function definition, not the prototype.
[12:22] <_StefanS_> manchicken: error: default argument given for parameter 6 of KDEsuDialog::KDEsuDialog(QCString, QCString, bool, const QString&, bool, uint)
[12:22] <_StefanS_> ah hell I'm getting tired
[12:23] <manchicken> heh
[12:23] <_StefanS_> manchicken: I dont get it, what should the line be ?
[12:25] <_StefanS_> still complains about the default arguments being used
[12:27] <manchicken> Take the = and the default after it.
[12:27] <_StefanS_> wow, that one's solved I guess.. now its KDialog not being the direct base of KPasswordDialog... well KDialogBase is ..
[12:27] <crimsun> lucas_: hi
[12:27] <_StefanS_> great.
[12:28] <manchicken> You can call multiple constructors there :)
[12:28] <manchicken> You just may notice... side effects :)
[12:28] <_StefanS_> like ?
[12:30] <manchicken> I have no idea.
[12:30] <_StefanS_> manchicken: well this code can bite my metal shiny a** .. I'm going to bed, I will probably bug some other time.
[12:30] <manchicken> heh
[12:30] <_StefanS_> thanks the assistance
[12:30] <_StefanS_> night.
[12:37] <neversfelde> Riddell: ping
[12:38] <Hobbsee> neversfelde: he'll be asleep
[12:38] <neversfelde> oh, n8 Riddell
[12:38] <neversfelde> Hobbsee: thx
[12:52] <Riddell> neversfelde: hi
[12:53] <Riddell> Hobbsee: did you get anywhere with kile?
[12:53] <neversfelde> Riddell: Good Morning
[12:55] <neversfelde> Riddell: I just got your enquiry about an artikle about kubuntu-de.org for kubuntu.org and UWn
[12:55] <neversfelde> sorry for beeing late, but Zerlinna was offline for some time
[12:55] <Riddell> neversfelde: I'll probably do something on monday along with that KDE 4 interview
[12:55] <Riddell> just a sentence or two
[12:56] <neversfelde> we're going to formulate something in german and english and i'll send it to you
[12:57] <neversfelde> Riddell: hx for that interview, it was read oftenly
[12:57] <neversfelde> and quite interesting
[01:01] <neversfelde> Riddell: I hope you can link to the original text on kubuntu-de.org, minspin told me that you would like to and I quickly published the original text
[01:02] <Hobbsee> Riddell: havent looked, sorry
[01:02] <Hobbsee> ooh, he is awake
[01:02] <neversfelde> it was not well prepared
[01:02] <neversfelde> hehe
[01:13] <Riddell> neversfelde: certainly will
[01:14] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i know fabo was looking into it, or another was going to, who fabo asked
[01:15] <neversfelde> Riddell: If there has to be a change tell me. I'm a little bit busy with my final exam, but I'm online every evening
[01:49] <DaSkreech> manchicken: Reason I invited leighton here was that he was getting an error message to upgrade to Xorg 6.8 on kubunutu 6.06
[03:14] <mhb> nixternal: 100% on add-application ! The price of being awake till 4:00 am is a small one.
[03:16] <Riddell> I feel like I just missed an hour of my life
[03:16] <jjesse> missed or wasted?
[03:16] <Riddell> missed, it just disappeared
[03:16] <jjesse> that's no good
[03:16] <Riddell> well, it means its summer at least
[03:17] <jjesse> was daylight savigns time change today for you?
[03:17] <Riddell> but now I have to do the mental calculation to diff BST when someone talks in UTC
[03:17] <jjesse> is BST different then UTC?
[03:18] <Riddell> +1 hour (+- some leap seconds)
[03:18] <mhb> mine too
[03:18] <Riddell> mhb: 100% what?
[03:18] <jjesse> i thought UTC and BST was the same
[03:18] <mhb> Riddell: 100% translation
[03:18] <Riddell> oh, well done
[03:18] <mhb> Riddell: it's just one .pot, there's a lot more
[03:18] <Riddell> UTC and GMT (UT1) are the same except for some leap seconds
[03:19] <Riddell> summer is when we get out of sync
[03:19] <jjesse> so BST and UTC are different then
[03:19] <jjesse> that is interesting, i ddn't know that
[03:19] <Riddell> see my comment at 02:18 (BST)
[03:20] <jjesse> silly question there aren't different time zones then are there?
[03:20] <jjesse> for great britian
[03:21] <Riddell> no, although it's an annual thing for some twonkle English MP to suggest not going back to GMT and recently they've taken to suggesting different time zones with Scotland and England
[03:21] <jjesse> what would be the reaosn for that?
[03:21] <Riddell> for which?
[03:22] <jjesse> different times zones for scotland and england
[03:22] <Riddell> because in scotland we like having daylight when we wake up
[03:23] <Riddell> in england they are southerly enough to already have it and like having an extra hour of daylight at the end of the day
[03:23] <jjesse> very interseting, i guess i'm showing my ignorance of england/scotland
[03:25] <Riddell> they only do it because it's guaranteed to get in the papers
[03:25] <Riddell> anyway, I'm now an hour later to bed than I planned to be so I should really go snoozing
[03:26] <jjesse> have a good night
[03:26] <mhb> goodnight Riddell
[03:26] <jjesse> thanks for the cultural lesson :)
[03:28] <DaSkreech> jjesse: Hey :-)
[03:29] <jjesse> hiya DaSkreech
[03:29] <DaSkreech> You totally dropped out after D-Day
[03:29] <jjesse> been very busy w/ work
[03:30] <jjesse> night time
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Yeah I figured
[03:31] <DaSkreech>  you got the changes in?
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: :-)
[03:38] <Hobbsee> heya DaSkreech
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Digital?
[03:38] <ajmitch> uh oh
[03:39] <DaSkreech> Yeah I'm going to have to start closing the door :-)
[03:39] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:39] <Hobbsee> i dont - had to keep stealing the parent's one
[03:40] <DaSkreech> How many Mpix>
[03:41] <Hobbsee> 8
[03:42] <DaSkreech> Riddell: KDE$ relies on decibel?
[03:42] <DaSkreech> 4
[03:42] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: hehe, yeah, seems i shoudl
[03:42] <mhb> now that you've got a camera, you can fix some more Kubuntu bugs :o)
[03:42] <mhb> Hobbsee: ^^
[03:43] <Hobbsee> mhb: hehe :)
[03:48] <mhb> why is there no Character map in Kubuntu main?
[03:52] <firephoto> mhb: konversation has one. ;)
[03:53] <DaSkreech> I was just thinking that
[03:54] <mhb> firephoto: well I'd expect a more general one, such as kcharselect
[03:54] <mhb> Ubuntu's gucharmap is in main
[03:56] <ryanakca> I've used both
[03:56] <ryanakca> one is as good as the other
[03:56] <mhb> ubuntu server is definitely more UTF-8 friendly
[03:56] <ryanakca> ubuntu server is what I'm using for my blog
[04:00] <Tm_T> I wonder how I can set one user to NOT use kubuntu defaults (and fall to kde defaults)
[04:01] <DaSkreech> chroot?
[04:02] <ryanakca> lol
[04:03] <ryanakca> dunno
[04:03] <Tm_T> he did duck bit too hard
[04:03] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: your ducking did push you over the cliff?
[04:05] <DaSkreech> Har har
[04:05] <DaSkreech> KDe keeps Krashing when I press Alt+Ctrl+a
[04:05] <ajmitch> Don't Do That
[04:05] <DaSkreech> It does it like once (maybe twice) a day
[04:07] <ryanakca> file a bug?
[04:07] <DaSkreech> Naw I think it's rroted
[04:07] <DaSkreech> rrooted
[04:07] <DaSkreech> It only started after that app
[04:11] <ajmitch> bye hobbsee :P
[04:16] <nixternal> anyone have a socket A mobo for sale? (kt333+)
[04:17] <DaSkreech> I might
[04:17] <nixternal> my Abit KT7 has at least 3 blown caps
[04:17] <nixternal> I filed a bug for 3 blown caps :)
[04:18] <nixternal> I just bid on a setup on ebay, $20 that has a new mobo plus a 1400+ cpu
[04:18] <DaSkreech> nixternal: is that like busting a cap?
[04:18] <nixternal> haha close
[05:32] <DaSkreech> ajmitch: Hmm interesting
[05:33] <DaSkreech>  apparently this "bug" also means I can't have any terminals
[07:33] <praetor_> anyone noticed breakage in beryl packages?
[07:33] <praetor_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:33] <praetor_> beryl: Depends: beryl-plugins but it is not installable
[07:33] <praetor_> Depends: beryl-settings but it is not going to be installed
[07:34] <praetor_> E: Broken packages
[07:34] <praetor_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:34] <praetor_> beryl-kubuntu: Depends: aquamarine but it is not installable
[07:34] <praetor_> Depends: beryl but it is not going to be installed
[07:34] <praetor_> E: Broken packages
[07:35] <crimsun> beryl-plugins hasn't been NEWed yet
[07:36] <crimsun> neither have emerald nor aquamarine
[07:36] <crimsun> so yes, the breakage is expected.
[07:36] <crimsun> I would not expect it to be resolved before Monday; it's the weekend, and most of staff have been busting their butts with Beta.
[07:37] <praetor_> no worries
[07:37] <praetor_> just saw the entry in mark's blog which seemed to indicate it was all good
[07:37] <crimsun> Mark doesn't follow each and every package (and can't be expected to)
[07:37] <praetor_> yea no worries
[07:37] <DaSkreech> mark?
[07:38] <crimsun> Mark Shuttleworth
[07:38] <crimsun> aka the sabdfl
[07:38] <DaSkreech> Ha ha people call him mark on IRC
[07:38] <DaSkreech> That's hilarious
[08:09] <praetor_> also, compiz-extras brings in gconf?!
[08:29] <DaSkreech> Can you override where the upgrade tool upgrades from?
[08:30] <Jucato> editing sources.list?
[08:30] <DaSkreech> I was thinking that
[08:31] <DaSkreech>  it adds the archive.ubuntu.com to the sources?
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Why doesn't it read from what is there so it gets au.archive.ubuntu.com etc?
[08:31] <Jucato> you mean the dist-upgrade tool?
[08:31] <Jucato> the new one?
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Yes
[08:32] <Jucato> afaik it just changes edgy repos to feisty. preserves the local server part.
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[08:32] <Jucato> at least it preserved the ph. for me
[08:42] <billytwowilly> hurray! I broke the upgrader;)
[08:43] <billytwowilly> it starts up grey screen now.
[08:45] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:45] <DaSkreech> How did you manage that?
[08:46] <billytwowilly> I started it to the point it started downloading, then killed it and changed the sources.list around then redid the upgrade process outlined here:https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[08:47] <billytwowilly> and the wrost part is that it didn't fix the slow downloading, changing the repositories from ca to us
[08:47] <billytwowilly> just doing an apt-get dist-upgrade won't hurt anything right?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Nope
[08:49] <billytwowilly> k, back to the way I used to do it then;)
[08:49] <billytwowilly> thanks, cheers
[08:50] <DaSkreech> billytwowilly: We really would like people to test the GUI tool
[08:50] <DaSkreech> But if you feel the need to upgrade now please go ahead
[08:52] <billytwowilly> well, I was only using it to test it, then it broke... So yah...
[08:52] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:52] <billytwowilly> I don't really know what else I can do with it.
[08:54] <billytwowilly> anyhoo, know of a mirror that I should be able to get more than 30 kb/sec in Canada on?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> nope that's back to #kubuntu territory
[09:27] <raffytaffy> has anyone here tested kde4 according to the repo above^^?
[09:29] <raffytaffy> i am willing to test it with a custom kernel on edgy / i have installed feisty ..so i can always fall back on that. however i could use any input as to what to expact
[12:24] <fdoving> yay.. swfdec with flash7 support.
[12:28] <naught101> anyone useing firefox + adobe flash plugin for youtube? most videos don't play properly for me
[12:28] <naught101> they stop at certain points
[12:29] <naught101> ahh, sorry, this should go in #ubuntu+1
[12:29] <raffytaffy> anyone try 2.6.21-rc4 yet
[12:29] <raffytaffy> ?
[01:24] <lucas__> lucas
[01:24] <lucas__> crimsun: Hi
[02:15] <Hobbsee> mmm...netsplit
[02:43] <Hobbsee> heya Jucato!
[02:43] <Jucato> how was your weekend? :)
[02:43] <Hobbsee> mmm...pretending to do assignments.  work.  camera buying.
[02:44] <Jucato> what's an ohotoshoot?
[02:44] <Jucato> hehe :)
[02:45] <Hobbsee> awww
[02:45] <Tm_T> photo I meant :(
[02:45] <Hobbsee> GUILTY AS CHARGED!
[02:45] <Jucato> and the laptop I'm getting seems to be a relatively unknown brand :)
[02:45] <Hobbsee> i was being asked today if i wanted to buy a laptop
[02:45] <Jucato> :)
[02:45] <Hobbsee> said no
[02:45] <Jucato> aw?
[02:46] <Hobbsee> did enough damage to the poor bank card
[02:46] <Jucato> oh
[02:48] <Jucato> hm.... feels like a perfect time to sleep very early... :)
[02:49] <Jucato> Hobbsee: will kuickshow be in Feisty? I thought it was in NEW already (whatever that means...)
[02:51] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yeah, sitting in binary new
[02:51] <Jucato> ah ok. so it will make it to feisty?
[02:52] <Hobbsee> heh
[02:52] <Hobbsee> you dont need to know, per se.
[02:52] <Hobbsee> Jucato: new sources sit in the NEW queue.  these take ages to review.  new binaries also sit in a queue, called the binary NEW queue
[02:52] <Jucato> just don't want to look clueless... hmm...maybe I could pretend to know :)
[02:53] <Hobbsee> and freeze fits somewhere in there, with manual shoves, etc.
[02:53] <Jucato> ah so being in NEW doesn't mean it will make it to feisty?
[02:53] <Jucato> (since "these take ages to review")
[02:53] <Hobbsee> oh it should do
[02:53] <Jucato> ah ok :)
[02:53] <Hobbsee> it's in binary new, not source new
[02:54] <Hobbsee> so, source is OK, free from licence problmes
[02:54] <Jucato> aaaah ok ok :)
[02:54] <Hobbsee> not sure what they do in binary new
[02:54] <Jucato> oh btw, beryl's in :)
[02:54] <Jucato> (since yesterday I think?)
[02:54] <Hobbsee> i know :(
[02:55] <Hobbsee> since a few days ago - it's all been sitting in binary new
[02:55] <Jucato> and Beryl and Compiz might merge :)
[02:55] <Jucato> ain't that all so wonderful? lol :)
[02:55] <Hobbsee> sure, yeah
[02:55] <Hobbsee> at least hte packaging is a lot better now
[02:59] <Hobbsee> was mentioned on the forums, iirc.  dont remember seeing any effort to put it in the reops
[02:59] <Jucato> oh well... kwin_composite will put an end to all these, at least for KDE :)
[02:59] <Jucato> (hopefully... :/ )
[03:05] <mhb> hey folks
[03:05] <Hobbsee> hi mhb!
[03:06] <mhb> Riddell: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php the topic says "Kubuntu 7.04 LTS Beta Released"
[03:06] <mhb> is that correct?
[03:06] <Riddell> nope
[03:06] <Jucato> hi mhb! hi Riddell!
[03:07] <Riddell> fixed
[03:12] <mhb> thanks
[03:14] <Riddell> thank you mhb
[03:14] <Riddell> hi Jucato, what's metisse?
[03:15] <Riddell> oh, the mandriva compositor?
[03:15] <Jucato> yep
[03:15] <Riddell> can't say I am, none of my video cards support compositing
[03:15] <Riddell> but would be good if someone is
[03:15] <Jucato> oh :)
[03:41] <giangy> afternoon
[03:41] <lucas__> Hi, I found something weird and don't know if it's a bug or normal with the .kde folder
[03:42] <lucas__> if I make a backup of an old .kde folder (reinit kde session)
[03:42] <lucas__> And want (after) to get back the old .kde folder
[03:43] <lucas__> After a session restart the old .kde folder is totally deleted and replaced with a fresh one (and all the backuped settings are away)
[03:44] <lucas__> So if someone needs it's old .kde session, he must use cp instead of mv otherwise the backup will be deleted
[03:45] <lucas__> I reproduce this more than once
[03:45] <Riddell> are you moving these .kde directories about while logged in to KDE?
[03:45] <lucas__> yep
[03:46] <lucas__> In konsole I do mv .kde .kde.bak
[03:46] <lucas__> restart the session (and obtain a fresh new .kde folder)
[03:47] <lucas__> than I do in konsole  mv .kde.bak .kde and still get a new .kde folder and all the .kde.bak settings are away
[03:47] <Riddell> if you move .kde directories around while logged in to .kde then things will break
[03:50] <lucas__> Ok but is it a normal behaviour ?
[03:51] <lucas__> I mean these broken things don't necessary mean to remove a folder without backuping it
[03:51] <Riddell> if you move files out from under running applications it's not abnormal for them to get confused
[03:51] <lucas__> For sure
[03:52] <lucas__> NB : I'm not here to get help about this, I just wanted to be sure that peoples were aware of it
[03:53] <lucas__> Since it can compromise emails stored in the kmail profile
[03:56] <lucas__> Because, rm -R .kde is  a well known way to get a fresh .kde profile through forums but anyone can do it form a kde session.
[03:56] <lucas__> (btw including me)
[03:58] <lucas__> Anyway, I just came to konw if it was a reason to post a bug report ?
[03:58] <Riddell> doesn't sound like a bug to me
[03:58] <lucas__> Ok
[04:00] <lucas__> Jucato: Hehe I'm glad to learn it,
[04:00] <bobbin> hey there. In which repository are the adept sources? I can't see them in mine: 6.10 multiverse universe main restricted....
[04:00] <Jucato> what do you mean by "sources"?
[04:00] <lucas__> Riddell: That's ok I will try to hunt this advice in the ubuntu-fr forums
[04:01] <Jucato> lucas__: the recommended way is to backup the .kde directory... and usually not to do backup/restore while logged into KDE
[04:01] <lucas__> Jucato: And you restore it from a tty ?
[04:02] <Jucato> yep
[04:02] <Jucato> might also be "safer" if you use cp instead of mv (if you have the space).
[04:02] <Jucato> that will leave you with a real "backup" :)
[04:03] <bobbin> Jucato: I mean the source code that adept is built from. I'd like to hacktribute because the table columns don't sort-on-header-click
[04:03] <lucas__> Jucato:  That's what I hought just after I've seen my "backuped " .kde was deleted
[04:04] <Jucato> bobbin: enable the deb-src repository for main. then "apt-get source adept"
[04:04] <lucas__> I did it for convenient reason (time)
[04:04] <bobbin> Jucato: cheers
[04:04] <lucas__> Since I may do it several times
[04:05] <lucas__> I'm hunting my audio output problem, and remark that audio works well on the livecd, on a fresh install (with a new home folder)
[04:06] <lucas__> But when I use my old normal home folder I get no output
[04:06] <lucas__> But it's not the subject of my visit
[04:07] <freeflying> Riddell: how about revert qt?
[04:09] <Riddell> freeflying: will do tomorrow
[04:10] <freeflying> Riddell: need kdelibs rebuild?
[04:12] <Riddell> no
[04:39] <bobbin> Jucato: excuse me again...
[04:39] <bobbin> # apt-get source adept
[04:39] <bobbin> Reading package lists... Done
[04:39] <bobbin> Building dependency tree
[04:39] <bobbin> Reading state information... Done
[04:39] <bobbin> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.kde.org_pub_kde_stable_3.5.6_kubuntu_dists_edgy_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[04:39] <Jucato> !pastebin | bobbin
[04:39] <ubotu> bobbin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:39] <Jucato> bobbin: don't do it as root
[04:40] <Riddell> it was only 1 line he pasted :)
[04:40] <Riddell> bobbin: sudo apt-get update
[04:40] <bobbin> sorry, it didn't seem so floody
[04:40] <Jucato> it was? O.o
[04:41] <bobbin> Failed to fetch http://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.6/kubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  302 Found [IP: 131.220.16.1 80] 
[04:41] <bobbin> Failed to fetch http://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.6/kubuntu/dists/edgy/main/source/Sources.gz  302 Found [IP: 131.220.16.1 80] 
[04:42] <bobbin> Was I enthusiastic about the wrong repository line?
[04:43] <Riddell> use another mirror
[04:43] <bobbin> Riddell: any quick suggestions?
[04:44] <giangy> bobbin: http://download.kde.org/download.php
[04:44] <giangy> huge list :)
[04:44] <Jucato> hm...??
[04:45] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[04:45] <Riddell> top one
[04:48] <bobbin> Riddell:thanks
[04:51] <bobbin> However, there's somw sort of gpg error. I'll try synaptic :/
[04:51] <bobbin> I mean KpackageManager
[05:11] <bobbin> Wish adept was more like kpackage. how is language-selector-qt tied into (un)install adept?
[05:15] <bobbin> Riddell: the reason I think kpackage beats adept is its tree view including repo type (mulitverse, universe etc.) and the available table sort by header :/
[05:17] <bobbin> though the perpetually 'working' mouse icon in kpackage is tiresome :\
[05:25] <ubotu> Announcement from my owner (Seveas): ubotu will be offline for maintenance
[05:26] <Riddell> bddebian: you should be able to sort adept by header
[05:26] <Riddell> oh, he's gone
[05:26] <Riddell> not bddebian
[05:27] <Ubugtu> Announcement from my owner (Seveas): ubugtu will be taken offline and integrated with ubotu - epect some downtime
[05:29] <danimo> moin!
[05:29] <danimo> Riddell: ping?
[05:30] <Riddell> abend danimo
[05:30] <Riddell> imbrandon: would you know what beryl-kubuntu is?
[05:30] <imbrandon> Riddell, yea
[05:30] <Riddell> imbrandon: what is it?
[05:31] <imbrandon> Riddell, its a meta package we made to make installing on kubuntu easier, all the deps
[05:31] <danimo> Riddell: heya
[05:31] <danimo> Riddell: have you ever worked with inkscape?
[05:31] <imbrandon> kinda like a mini k-d-s only just for beryl
[05:31] <Riddell> danimo: briefly
[05:31] <danimo> Riddell: export to other vector formats is broken like since edgy
[05:31] <Riddell> imbrandon: what is aquamarine
[05:31] <imbrandon> e.g. it depends on aquamarine  ettc
[05:31] <danimo> Riddell: can you please verify?
[05:32] <imbrandon> its the wm that replaces kwin when beryl is in use
[05:32] <danimo> Riddell: it's hard to believe that nobody looked into that
[05:32] <Riddell> danimo: kwwii might be better to ask
[05:32] <danimo> kwwii: ping?
[05:32] <danimo> Riddell: true
[05:32] <imbrandon> Riddell, it uses kwin deco like helidor uses metacity deco
[05:32] <imbrandon> and emerald uses beryl/compiz only deco
[05:33] <imbrandon> so apt-get install bery == pure beryl, beryl-kubuntu will let you use kwin deco and -ubuntu will let you use metacity deco
[05:34] <Riddell> imbrandon: fun fun
[05:34] <imbrandon> heh tell me about it, i've been fighing to make the kubuntu side work for a week or two now
[05:34] <Riddell> danimo: where is this export thing?
[05:34] <imbrandon> lol
[05:34] <danimo> Riddell: file->save as
[05:34] <danimo> Riddell: just select eps
[05:35] <danimo> Riddell: it just export a black filled rect
[05:35] <Riddell> danimo: eps works for me
[05:35] <Riddell> image shows in kghostview
[05:36] <imbrandon> danimo, works here too
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> I'm suddenly getting kde crashes since yesterdays updates, is this known or should I install gdb and debugging symbols to get some useful information?
[05:45] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: nothing I know about
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: okay. It's happened twice after leaving my machine for a while - like overnight. And I can't remember ever having kde crash like this before. I'll try to get some useful info.
[06:17] <Riddell> danimo: do you know what the state of kdepim 3.5 is these days?  should we do a branch pull for feisty?
[06:17] <Tm_T> LongPointyStick: how long you have been?
[06:18] <danimo> Riddell: well, kitchensync is still developing (not sure if in normal or in stable branch)
[06:18] <danimo> Riddell: obvious advantage: opensync as backend
[06:18] <danimo> Riddell: but better ask tobias about that
[06:19] <Lure> Riddell: we have too old opensync I think :-(
[06:19] <Lure> afaik 0.20 is required
[06:22] <Riddell> doesn't sound like post-beta stuff
[06:23] <nixternal> yes, our opensync is old and not friendly unfortunately
[06:23] <nixternal> I have been using KPilot in the mean time
[06:24] <danimo> sucks
[06:24] <danimo> syncing is really important these days
[06:24] <nixternal> you said it, not me :)
[06:25] <danimo> also, kmobiletools is fairly old
[06:25] <danimo> it's the latest released versions
[06:25] <danimo> although the rc's have been out for a while
[06:27] <giangy> k3b 1.0 will be submitted before feisty?
[06:41] <kwwii> danimo: pong
[06:42] <kwwii> danimo: I have had the same problems with the save as function for other formats but I think it is a known issue with inkscape
[06:42] <kwwii> it cannot save complicated eps files correctly
[06:43] <danimo> kwwii: the one I have isn't even complicated
[06:43] <danimo> kwwii: thing is: how else does one convert an svg to another vector format?
[06:43] <kwwii> to be very honest, I haven't tried it in a long time, as I have AI for eps files :-)
[06:43] <danimo> heh
[06:44] <danimo> kwwii: I don't
[06:44] <kwwii> erm, actually it is working here now
[06:45] <danimo> kwwii: huh? not here
[06:51] <billytwowilly> hey, is it normal for konqueror to not have the location bar in feisty? If so, how do I get it back?
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: looks like my kdesktop crash is actually a problem with libc6 - dont you think? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12023/
[07:14] <ryanakca> Riddell: I'm guessing setting up the kolab server would count as volunteer hours? (Paleo decided and I decided to have me set it up since it isn't really his server and we're going to be the ones using it)...
[07:14] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: ugh, I need more sleep :)
[08:40] <mhb> good evening
[08:40] <mhb> I've noticed that the dist-upgrade tool is translated a bit
[08:40] <mhb> can someone direct me to the place where I can translate it completely?
[08:43] <larsivi>   Bug http://www.dsource.org/projects/tango/ticket/91363 is still bugging me :P
[08:43] <larsivi> shite
[08:44] <larsivi>   Bug 91363 is still bugging me :P
[08:44] <ubotu> Malone bug 91363 in compiz "compiz-core fails on upgrade from edgy to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91363
[08:45] <mhb> larsivi: you *don't* want to know how many bugs are bugging me
[08:45] <larsivi> mhb: hehe - probably not :)
[08:46] <larsivi> actually, it's not a big problem for me, but it may be a problem for the dist upgrade
[08:47] <mhb> larsivi: of all the bugs I've reported, only two have been marked as Fix Released - and I fixed one myself
[08:47] <mhb> larsivi: but that's just fun :o)
[08:47] <mhb> larsivi: I'm not sure that the kubuntu team is responsible for compiz
[08:47] <larsivi> I have 4 bugs now - ao
[08:47] <larsivi> one is actually confirmed ;)
[08:48] <larsivi> mhb: I wouldn't know - riddell told me to report it though
[08:48] <mhb> larsivi: it's great to report
[08:48] <larsivi> and since I use kubuntu, I bug kubuntu ;)
[08:48] <mhb> larsivi: but we (the people here) can't do much about it, we're no compiz maintainers after all:o)
[08:49] <larsivi> ah, well :)
[08:52] <larsivi> right, it's assigned to motu-media
[09:14] <mhb> larsivi: about that bug of yours
[09:15] <larsivi> yah?
[09:15] <mhb> larsivi: I believe an english text would be much better
[09:15] <larsivi> mhb: probably, but now my apt is localized :)
[09:15] <mhb> larsivi: can you run it a second time?
[09:16] <larsivi> sure, it happens every time I upgrade :) can I set language for one run?
[09:16] <mhb> larsivi: you can set the language of the console
[09:16] <larsivi> is it just LANG ?
[09:17] <mhb> larsivi: LANG and LANGUAGE
[09:17] <mhb> larsivi: try it
[09:17] <larsivi> LANG was enough :)
[09:19] <larsivi> mhb: done :)
[09:24] <mhb> larsivi: nice. Norwegian has similarities to german, it seems.
[09:24] <larsivi> yes, they're in the same family