[09:09] <morpheus_t> salve
[09:30] <morpheus_t> c' nessuno?
[10:03] <doko> vil: pong
[10:04] <vil> doko, but I completely forgot, what I wanted...
[10:04] <vil> anyway, I have always plenty of questions :)
[10:05] <vil> doko, can I consider this bug #94442 as rejected?
[10:05] <vil> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/94442
[10:05] <vil> the stack trace is indeed interresting
[10:07] <vil> to me it looks like he used a character that gcj did not cope with
[10:10] <doko> vil: well, if he cannot reproduce it ...
[10:10] <doko> we don't have a policy for java5-runtime dependencies yet
[10:11] <vil> doko, another one
[10:11] <vil> did you take a look at the bug report for eclipse ia64, i sent you?
[10:11] <vil> gcj crashed when compiling eclipse
[10:11] <vil> 3.2.1 was ok on ia64, though
[10:13] <doko> vil: I would try to disable compiling the jsch jar to native code. Do you have access to an ia64 host?
[10:13] <vil> doko, nope
[10:13] <doko> ok, will try to build that next week
[10:15] <vil> doko, imbrandon and siretart set up couple of archs for public building, but ia64 is missing
[10:16] <vil> doko, any news with maven2?
[10:17] <vil> maybe i could start with some dependencies, if there is a list
[10:17] <doko> vil: no news, just the discussion on debian-java
[10:20] <vil> doko, also it looks like people would like to use java 5,6 from sun for eclipse. why don't we reshuffle the prefered vms?
[10:20] <vil> also acting acording to update-java-alternatives could help
[10:22] <doko> vil: IMO people can do that themself, if they want. I don't like the idea of the non-free java taking over silently
[10:23] <vil> doko, i know, but...
[10:23] <vil> gcj is simply slower, has larger mem demands
[10:24] <vil> doko, i just see people complain about it all the times
[10:24] <vil> i personally use non-free java, so that it fits on my laptop
[10:25] <doko> vil: well, but then we should move eclipse to multiverse, shouldn't we?
[10:25] <vil> doko, I don't believe so.
[10:25] <doko> vil: hopefully we won't have the problem for the next release
[10:26] <doko> maybe we can better document how to switch the vm for eclipse?
[10:26] <vil> doko, what do you mean by that?
[10:27] <vil> documenting the switch option can be the first step, but people don't like configuring. they just want to install and run
[10:28] <vil> doko, you say won't be problem for next release. do you mean sun java (openjdk)?
[10:29] <doko> yes
[10:30] <vil> doko, i remember you said that openjdk does not solve it, cause gcj supports far more platforms
[10:32] <doko> sure, but at least for i386 and amd64. more will hopefully follow
[10:36] <vil> doko, ok, that's just what people ask.
[10:37] <vil> for example when I updated the eclipse-cdt, the difference in delay of some operation was 8 secs on gcj with natives and 1 sec sun
[10:38] <vil> doko, only few people care about .eclipse configuration