=== glick [n=myob@cpe-75-84-226-35.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:42] hi [12:43] hey can anyone recommend some good reading to start cutting my teeth on kernel development? [12:44] kernelnewbies.org should still be around. [12:47] so linux device drivers and understanding the linux kernel is probably the two most important books to read === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-123.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-180.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai_ [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Whoopie [n=Whoopie@unaffiliated/whoopie] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@collinsap1.phunnypharm.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === raffytaffy [n=raf@user-0cdf5dr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === raffytaffy [n=raf@user-0cdf5dr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cyclopse [n=SataN@61.1.244.77] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:44] hi i use kubuntu 6.06 LTS can somebody help me? [08:44] where r the kernel headers located [08:44] ? [08:44] linux-headers-$(uname -r) [08:44] please use [08:44] #ubuntu for general support questions [08:45] k === cyclopse [n=SataN@61.1.244.77] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@collinsap1.phunnypharm.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === raffytaffy [n=raf@user-0cdf5dr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:50] i relized i can change the xchat.conf entery and i fixed my menu issue hehe === raffytaffy [n=raf@user-0cdf5dr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:14] BenC i was bugging you some days ago about network card not being detected by ubuntu dapper on vpc [09:17] and i changed the eth0 config via system->admin->network-tools to DHCP after this i can surf the net but smb doesnt show my windows Domain pcs :( [09:20] with DHCP ican wget ,syanptic and sudo aptget install some package from net works etc etc only \\pc14 \\pc12 etc are not visible :( neitehr does smbtree shows any resu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jml [n=jml@86.228.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:48] how do I build just one flavour without building the others? [09:49] doko: check debian/rules, you can specify flavour or FLAVOUR.. can't remember offhands [09:50] doko: or move away the configs you don't want from debian/config/$arch [09:50] and use binary-debs target [09:50] doko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance#head-898bc4657c398ebb0d3d70597997cb9956d9b2c9 [09:51] ok, thanks. now I have to find out why an addition to debian/config/powerpc/sp3 is unseen ... [09:51] Mithrandir: did look at it, but that didn't answer my question [09:52] doko: uh, then you meant to ask another question than you did. [09:52] has paravirtualization been added rescently? [09:52] doko: be careful to what you add to the configs.. i suggest you do this... 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Shall I open a bugreport? [04:20] Whoopie: Please do, yes [04:24] mjg59: my disk works again after a reboot. I have no idea what happened with the bugger :-) [04:26] mjg59: already reported, didn't see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/33950 [04:27] https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/95921 [04:27] where is the problem? :-) [04:30] Possibly in the cable detection code === Simira [n=simira@tellus.err.no] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [04:31] doesn't it look like it's actually using UDMA100 and hdparm is just busted with the new-world-order? :-) [04:31] dooh. missed the last two lines :-P [04:31] nm me today ;-) [04:31] hehe === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@36-233.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@36-233.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === thotz [n=thomas@d86-33-125-22.cust.tele2.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === thotz [n=thomas@d86-33-125-22.cust.tele2.at] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f4f3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai_ is now known as rikai === ivoks [n=ivoks@21-209.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@host81-154-198-163.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@host81-154-198-163.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@host81-154-198-163.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-076-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-73-141.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:00] baah === Nafallo gets the new kernel :-P === Razor44 [n=kathy@ipa181.28.91.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bronson [n=bronson@adsl-76-202-197-80.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:20] BenC: #96058 <- suckage === okaratas [n=ozgurk@fsf/member/okaratas] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === PhinnFort [n=martin@unaffiliated/phinnfort] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JoseStefan [n=Stealth@63sdl30m49.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:17] what is the lowlatency kernel? [11:17] BenC, here? [11:17] is it realtime-ish for sound editing and the like, or soft realtime, for desktops? [11:17] PhinnFort: identical to -generic save preempt is enabled and hz is 1000 [11:18] ah, ok [11:18] no preempt big kernel lock, and the like? [11:18] PhinnFort: it's nowhere close to realtime, but yes, it's more suitable for audio and video work. The use case is UbuntuStudio. [11:18] plain preempt? [11:18] i think bug 84964 is still alive :( [11:18] PhinnFort: the former. Full preemption within the scope of 2.6.20. [11:19] how many of con-kolivas patches does .20 include? [11:19] How can i provide boot text for a daily-live, without the use of a digital camera (or a lot of typing) ? [11:19] *do you know... === benh [i=[U2FsdGV@gate.crashing.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:19] heya folks ! [11:19] PhinnFort: none. [11:19] Hi Ben [11:19] is the feisty kernel based on 2.6.20 "bare" or 2.6.20.2 ? [11:19] PhinnFort: (unless they were merged into 2.6.20) [11:20] benh: .3, at least [11:20] ah ok [11:20] crimsun: that was what i was trying to ask;) [11:20] so the ilog2 bug has been properly reverted... [11:20] good [11:20] Revert "[PATCH] LOG2: Alter get_order() so that it can make use of ilog2() on a constant" [11:20] i know his scheduler is scheduled to be included soon [11:20] though [11:20] without that, random mem corruption on ppc ... no fun :-) should be all right in .3 [11:20] another questing while there... [11:21] why 2 separate CDs for PS3 vs. other powerpc ? [11:21] a benc question (I don't know offhand, sorry) [11:21] benh: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=commit;h=25239266d554a0442eb676044f03de9d43364c42 [11:21] I can't boot feisty, because of jmicron bug, Is there anyway to dump the boot text on to a usbkey, while i'm at the "busy box" [11:21] So yeah, it's certainly been reverted [11:21] JoseStefan: Wait for the next daily [11:22] I suppose I really need to get a 0.1 of my ps3 gfx bootloader out [11:22] so you guys can get some nice icons in your config file to show up on it :-) [11:22] mjg59: let me know if sound works on your mac* now [11:22] crimsun: Oh, good question [11:22] (at your convenience, of course) [11:22] there should be no need for separate CDs... unless something is fuckd up with kboot [11:22] mjg59, i understand this daily has the kernel that is supposed to fix the problem, so maybe if i could provide more info, it would be useful === benh will install & test ubuntu/ps3 today or tomorrow [11:23] JoseStefan: err, -13 just rolled into the archive today, so I'm pretty sure the current daily _doesn't_ have it [11:23] woohoo, ck has it's own wiki now: http://ck.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page [11:25] crimsun, anyway of knowing of what kernel is on the disk, by looking at the disk tree, or opening files on the CD ? === benh 's laptop update to feisty almost fully d/l ... cross fingers [11:26] JoseStefan: uname -r in a shell is sufficient [11:26] benh: No room for otheros.bld and ps3 kernel+initrd on normal ppc CD [11:26] crimsun, if it's running, i mean without booting it (live-cd) [11:26] BenC: wow, it's -that- cramped ? [11:27] BenC: what kernel do you use ? once it's finally properly merged, it should be a single image for all ppc64 including ps3, but we aren't quite there yet [11:27] JoseStefan: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/source/feisty-src-1.list [11:27] JoseStefan: in fact, according to that, the current daily has it [11:29] crimsun, does this apply to daily-live as well? [11:30] JoseStefan: no === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:30] crimsun: Ok, that's got it, but I needed to manually unmute the "speaker" channel [11:30] (Which wasn't displayed by default) [11:31] note that http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/feisty-desktop-i386.list still lists 12.20 [11:31] ^ JoseStefan [11:31] mjg59: ok, thanks [11:31] crimsun, thanks was looking for a /source subdir :o [11:31] crimsun: That is, I have separate speaker and headphone options, and no master control [11:32] mjg59: is your /proc/asound/card0/codec* in a bug report? [I think it is, but $toomanybugs] [11:33] crimsun: Eh, not sure [11:33] crimsun, ok, now i've learned how to find out what kernel is on a daily-live without going for the surprise element :D [11:33] JoseStefan: if you're really itching for feisty, just use the current daily [11:33] Hm. -13 seems to have lost the ability to reboot my mbp. [11:34] hrm... they powerpc feisty CDs aren't in the main location... not mirrored :-( [11:34] is there any reason not to use noatime in fstab on a normal desktop system? [11:34] crimsun, i'm trying to help fix this jmicron issue, since it's been there for a while ;) [11:35] benh: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/beta/ [11:35] (or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily/current/ if you want more current) [11:35] crimsun: yeah, found that, but not mirrored herre... thanks anyway [11:35] (.au is slow when not mirrored) [11:35] crimsun: Any idea why gnome-volume-applet claims to be altering PCM, but is in fact altering front? [11:36] benh: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/beta/ [11:36] crimsun: not on au.archive. [11:36] ah [11:36] well. ... let me dbl check [11:36] mjg59: err, no idea about g-v-a [11:37] yeah, not there [11:37] I should stop using pA momentarily to check that. Will see what I can whip up tonight. [11:40] same with planetmirror and optus [11:40] mirrors don't get "ports" [11:40] ok, thanks for everything, i'll wait until next daily === JoseStefan [n=Stealth@63sdl30m49.codetel.net.do] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === benh [i=[U2FsdGV@gate.crashing.org] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Konversation]