[12:42] <glick> hi
[12:43] <glick> hey can anyone recommend some good reading to start cutting my teeth on kernel development?
[12:44] <crimsun> kernelnewbies.org should still be around.
[12:47] <glick> so linux device drivers and understanding the linux kernel is probably the two most important books to read
[08:44] <cyclopse> hi i use kubuntu 6.06 LTS can somebody help me? 
[08:44] <cyclopse> where r the kernel headers located
[08:44] <cyclopse> ?
[08:44] <crimsun> linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:44] <crimsun> please use 
[08:44] <crimsun> #ubuntu for general support questions
[08:45] <cyclopse> k
[08:50] <raffytaffy> i relized i can change the xchat.conf entery and i fixed my menu issue hehe
[09:14] <bluffer_> BenC i was bugging you some days ago about network card not being detected by ubuntu dapper on vpc 
[09:17] <bluffer_> and i changed the eth0 config via system->admin->network-tools to  DHCP after this i can surf the net but smb doesnt show my windows Domain pcs :(
[09:20] <bluffer_> with DHCP ican wget ,syanptic and sudo aptget install some package from net works etc etc only \\pc14 \\pc12 etc are not visible :( neitehr does smbtree shows any resu
[09:48] <doko> how do I build just one flavour without building the others?
[09:49] <fabbione> doko: check debian/rules, you can specify flavour or FLAVOUR.. can't remember offhands
[09:50] <fabbione> doko: or move away the configs you don't want from debian/config/$arch
[09:50] <fabbione> and use binary-debs target
[09:50] <Mithrandir> doko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance#head-898bc4657c398ebb0d3d70597997cb9956d9b2c9
[09:51] <doko> ok, thanks. now I have to find out why an addition to debian/config/powerpc/sp3 is unseen ...
[09:51] <doko> Mithrandir: did look at it, but that didn't answer my question
[09:52] <Mithrandir> doko: uh, then you meant to ask another question than you did.
[09:52] <raffytaffy> has paravirtualization been added rescently?
[09:52] <fabbione> doko: be careful to what you add to the configs.. i suggest you do this...
[09:52] <fabbione> export LC_ALL=C
[09:53] <fabbione> cd debian/config/$arch
[09:53] <fabbione> remove the option you want to change in all config.*
[09:53] <doko> fabbione: just an additional driver
[09:53] <fabbione> fakeroot make -f debian/rules updateconfigs
[09:53] <fabbione> it will prompt you for the question
[09:53] <doko> ahh, ok
[09:53] <fabbione> if it doesn't it means something else is required to enable it
[09:54] <fabbione> it won't ask for questions already answered
[02:51] <TheMuso> c
[04:19] <Whoopie> mjg59: hi, hdaps inverting for xy-, x- or y-axis is missing in feisty kernel. and also tp_smapi. both are in edgy. Shall I open a bugreport?
[04:20] <mjg59> Whoopie: Please do, yes
[04:24] <Nafallo> mjg59: my disk works again after a reboot. I have no idea what happened with the bugger :-)
[04:26] <Whoopie> mjg59: already reported, didn't see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/33950
[04:27] <Nafallo> https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/95921
[04:27] <Nafallo> where is the problem? :-)
[04:30] <mjg59> Possibly in the cable detection code
[04:31] <Nafallo> doesn't it look like it's actually using UDMA100 and hdparm is just busted with the new-world-order? :-)
[04:31] <Nafallo> dooh. missed the last two lines :-P
[04:31] <Nafallo> nm me today ;-)
[04:31] <Nafallo> hehe
[09:00] <Nafallo> baah
[09:20] <fabbione> BenC: #96058 <- suckage
[11:17] <PhinnFort> what is the lowlatency kernel?
[11:17] <JoseStefan> BenC, here?
[11:17] <PhinnFort> is it realtime-ish for sound editing and the like, or soft realtime, for desktops?
[11:17] <crimsun> PhinnFort: identical to -generic save preempt is enabled and hz is 1000
[11:18] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[11:18] <PhinnFort> no preempt big kernel lock, and the like?
[11:18] <crimsun> PhinnFort: it's nowhere close to realtime, but yes, it's more suitable for audio and video work. The use case is UbuntuStudio.
[11:18] <PhinnFort> plain preempt?
[11:18] <JoseStefan> i think bug 84964 is still alive :(
[11:18] <crimsun> PhinnFort: the former. Full preemption within the scope of 2.6.20.
[11:19] <PhinnFort> how many of con-kolivas patches does .20 include?
[11:19] <JoseStefan> How can i provide boot text for a daily-live, without the use of a digital camera (or a lot of typing) ?
[11:19] <PhinnFort> *do you know...
[11:19] <benh> heya folks !
[11:19] <crimsun> PhinnFort: none.
[11:19] <mjg59> Hi Ben
[11:19] <benh> is the feisty kernel based on 2.6.20 "bare" or 2.6.20.2 ?
[11:19] <crimsun> PhinnFort: (unless they were merged into 2.6.20)
[11:20] <crimsun> benh: .3, at least
[11:20] <benh> ah ok
[11:20] <PhinnFort> crimsun: that was what i was trying to ask;)
[11:20] <benh> so the ilog2 bug has been properly reverted...
[11:20] <benh> good
[11:20] <benh> Revert "[PATCH]  LOG2: Alter get_order() so that it can make use of ilog2() on a constant"
[11:20] <PhinnFort> i know his scheduler is scheduled to be included soon
[11:20] <PhinnFort> though
[11:20] <benh> without that, random mem corruption on ppc ... no fun :-) should be all right in .3
[11:20] <benh> another questing while there...
[11:21] <benh> why 2 separate CDs for PS3 vs. other powerpc ?
[11:21] <crimsun> a benc question (I don't know offhand, sorry)
[11:21] <mjg59> benh: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=commit;h=25239266d554a0442eb676044f03de9d43364c42
[11:21] <JoseStefan> I can't boot feisty, because of jmicron bug, Is there anyway to dump the boot text on to a usbkey, while i'm at the "busy box"
[11:21] <mjg59> So yeah, it's certainly been reverted
[11:21] <mjg59> JoseStefan: Wait for the next daily
[11:22] <benh> I suppose I really need to get a 0.1 of my ps3 gfx bootloader out
[11:22] <benh> so you guys can get some nice icons in your config file to show up on it :-)
[11:22] <crimsun> mjg59: let me know if sound works on your mac* now
[11:22] <mjg59> crimsun: Oh, good question
[11:22] <crimsun> (at your convenience, of course)
[11:22] <benh> there should be no need for separate CDs... unless something is fuckd up with kboot
[11:22] <JoseStefan> mjg59, i understand this daily has the kernel that is supposed to fix the problem, so maybe if i could provide more info, it would be useful
[11:23] <crimsun> JoseStefan: err, -13 just rolled into the archive today, so I'm pretty sure the current daily _doesn't_ have it
[11:23] <PhinnFort> woohoo, ck has it's own wiki now: http://ck.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[11:25] <JoseStefan> crimsun, anyway of knowing of what kernel is on the disk, by looking at the disk tree, or opening files on the CD ?
[11:26] <crimsun> JoseStefan: uname -r  in a shell is sufficient
[11:26] <BenC> benh: No room for otheros.bld and ps3 kernel+initrd on normal ppc CD
[11:26] <JoseStefan> crimsun, if it's running, i mean without booting it (live-cd)
[11:26] <benh> BenC: wow, it's -that- cramped ?
[11:27] <benh> BenC: what kernel do you use ? once it's finally properly merged, it should be a single image for all ppc64 including ps3, but we aren't quite there yet
[11:27] <crimsun> JoseStefan: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/source/feisty-src-1.list
[11:27] <crimsun> JoseStefan: in fact, according to that, the current daily has it
[11:29] <JoseStefan> crimsun, does this apply to daily-live as well?
[11:30] <crimsun> JoseStefan: no
[11:30] <mjg59> crimsun: Ok, that's got it, but I needed to manually unmute the "speaker" channel
[11:30] <mjg59> (Which wasn't displayed by default)
[11:31] <crimsun> note that http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/feisty-desktop-i386.list still lists 12.20
[11:31] <crimsun> ^ JoseStefan 
[11:31] <crimsun> mjg59: ok, thanks
[11:31] <JoseStefan> crimsun, thanks was looking for a /source subdir :o
[11:31] <mjg59> crimsun: That is, I have separate speaker and headphone options, and no master control
[11:32] <crimsun> mjg59: is your /proc/asound/card0/codec* in a bug report? [I think it is, but $toomanybugs] 
[11:33] <mjg59> crimsun: Eh, not sure
[11:33] <JoseStefan> crimsun, ok, now i've learned how to find out what kernel is on a daily-live without going for the surprise element :D
[11:33] <crimsun> JoseStefan: if you're really itching for feisty, just use the current daily
[11:33] <mjg59> Hm. -13 seems to have lost the ability to reboot my mbp.
[11:34] <benh> hrm... they powerpc feisty CDs aren't in the main location... not mirrored :-(
[11:34] <PhinnFort> is there any reason not to use noatime in fstab on a normal desktop system?
[11:34] <JoseStefan> crimsun, i'm trying to help fix this jmicron issue, since it's been there for a while ;)
[11:35] <crimsun> benh: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/beta/
[11:35] <crimsun> (or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily/current/ if you want more current)
[11:35] <benh> crimsun: yeah, found that, but not mirrored herre... thanks anyway
[11:35] <benh> (.au is slow when not mirrored)
[11:35] <mjg59> crimsun: Any idea why gnome-volume-applet claims to be altering PCM, but is in fact altering front?
[11:36] <crimsun> benh: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/beta/
[11:36] <benh> crimsun: not on au.archive.
[11:36] <crimsun> ah
[11:36] <benh> well. ... let me dbl check
[11:36] <crimsun> mjg59: err, no idea about g-v-a
[11:37] <benh> yeah, not there
[11:37] <crimsun> I should stop using pA momentarily to check that. Will see what I can whip up tonight.
[11:40] <benh> same with planetmirror and optus
[11:40] <benh> mirrors don't get "ports"
[11:40] <JoseStefan> ok, thanks for everything, i'll wait until next daily