[01:35] <Ukubuntu> Hello all I have a marketing idea but I am not sure if it has been pursued before. Distributing through a popular weekend newspaper.
[01:36] <adamant1988> Ukubuntu: You mean like a newspaper ad?
[01:37] <Ukubuntu> No not at all. The sunday newspapers add a cd every week for a film or software for ancestry.com.  Why not send out a CD of Ubuntu?
[01:39] <Ukubuntu> This way we gain the awarenes of ordinary people, those who don't buy PC magazines but cannot afford the leap to Vista, only want a system that is secure and does not fall over etc
[01:40] <Ukubuntu> The Live CD is not only a great intro, it is a rescue CD too, and the open software project too is still there for windows users
[01:41] <Ukubuntu> It would be best to be the i386 LiveCD in my mind, as this will appeal to the most users.
[01:46] <Ukubuntu> For Instance, take the UK, The Sunday Times is probably the paper where the readership has a reasonable intellect. If you sent out a CD, a month after launch of 7.04, just in case of major bloopers, then you would really stand to increase the number of new users and work on bug #1
[01:47] <adamant1988> Ukubuntu: I like that idea
[01:48] <adamant1988> They don't send them here, but that's something your LoCo team might be able to arrange
[01:49] <Ukubuntu> OK I will chat to the uk team. I think though it could be a global initiative, as we could produce lots of articles to encourage newspapers to make the promotion for free. I feel it could seel newspapers with Vista as it is
[01:50] <Ukubuntu> Though I heard MS is more concerned about Goole than Linux! what a twist!
[01:50] <Ukubuntu> Google
[01:51] <lotusleaf> who cares about MS
[01:51] <lotusleaf> FOSS is the future
[01:51] <lotusleaf> unless you're talking about MS the disease
[01:51] <Ukubuntu> I care enough not to alienate it's users before they understand the benefit of Linux
[01:51] <lotusleaf> :P
[01:53] <lotusleaf> No one said anything about the users, which is why my site has links to aid those users
[01:53] <Ukubuntu> :)
[01:53] <lotusleaf> regarding a magazine distributing an ubuntu cd, wouldn't it just be a matter of contacting said magazine and inquiring?
[01:53] <Ukubuntu> sorry, shot myself in the foot :$
[01:54] <adamant1988> Ukubuntu: Our papers here don't distribute CDs like that
[01:54] <adamant1988> unfortunately
[01:54] <Ukubuntu> I have already started ;)
[01:54] <lotusleaf> cool
[01:54] <lotusleaf> be sure to subscribe to the marketing mailing list
[01:54] <Ukubuntu> I tried the sunday telegraph and if no response plan to go onto the Times
[01:55] <Ukubuntu> Want to read what I wrote?
[01:55] <Ukubuntu> whats the pastebin link?
[01:55] <lotusleaf>  /msg ubotu !pastebin
[01:55] <Ukubuntu> thks
[01:56] <lotusleaf> np
[01:58] <Ukubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11925/
[01:59] <Ukubuntu> Thats an email I sent them. I hope it reads OK, comments welcome
[01:59] <Ukubuntu> you may need to wordwrap :)
[03:08] <Ukubuntu> anyway, got to go, but I will join the mailing list and if you want to mail me a comment, you can to ukubuntu@just-contact.me.uk
[03:09] <elcasey> I had a guy give an interesting reason for not using Linux or OSS on Thursday
[03:09] <elcasey> he said he "just didn't trust software from the internet...I want a brand name."
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> errr, "Ubuntu", and get it via ShipIT
[03:10] <elcasey> I'm not 100% sure how you make it plain to people that Linux/OSS firms are often for-profit companies and *are* profitable...but I think his comment went beyond the "hobbyist OS" complaint that seems standard
[03:10] <elcasey> i.e. he wanted to use Microsoft's network monitoring software, even though he admitted it was garbage
[03:10] <elcasey> but he didn't "trust" an OSS solution
[03:17] <adamant1988> elcasey: IMO the Ubuntu.com site now goes a long way towards doing that
[03:17] <adamant1988> However, since people aren't being actively ripped off by Canonical they don't recognize that it's even able to make money
[03:17] <elcasey> but i don't think people like that go out surfing for linux sites, you know?
[03:17] <adamant1988> elcasey: the point is you can direct them to it, the site is well done and professional
[03:17] <elcasey> the instructor is very pro-OSS, so I think we'll wear this guy down by the end of the semester ;)
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> elcasey: They do after they try to use their iPod on Vista
[03:17] <jenda> adamant1988: hahah, well put :)
[03:17] <elcasey> hehehe
[03:18] <elcasey> iTunes *still* doesn't work in Vista? Wow...
[03:18] <adamant1988> However, I think Canonical does need a way to take advantage of all the home users
[03:18] <adamant1988> I started a thread on the forums about a different kind of support model I want to suggest, but the forum interest was kind of low and the thread is on page 2
[03:19] <adamant1988> I think part of the challenge of marketing any linux distribution is you need to alter how people think
[03:19] <elcasey> good point
[03:19] <elcasey> and I'm still not convinced that Linux is ready for the average computard's desktop
[03:19] <adamant1988> I am, feisty is absolutely care free.
[03:20] <adamant1988> I only touch the CLI when I want too, this is Linux made easy
[03:20] <elcasey> i haven't used feisty yet
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> elcasey: keep in mind that all of the hard parts about Linux are equal or worse in non-OEM Windows
[03:20] <elcasey> how is retail Windows any different than an OEM version?
[03:20] <adamant1988> I think one thing Ubuntu really needs to do is start actively involving itself with OEMs.
[03:21] <elcasey> for *me*, I get frustrated now in Windows because CMD is a useless shell.
[03:21] <adamant1988> elcasey: retail windows has been set up to work on that hardware
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> elcasey: OEMs install all of the drivers and 3rd party apps
[03:21] <elcasey> but *everything* has a Windows driver
[03:21] <adamant1988> You try installing just vanilla windows on a system and see what you get.
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> Starting from scratch is a _serious_ PITA
[03:21] <elcasey> I've installed vanilla Windows on basically every computer I've had since 1992
[03:21] <elcasey> which is the last time I bought a machine built by anyone but me
[03:22] <adamant1988> I hated it, I had to put windows back on my lappy and in it's vanilla stage it was awful
[03:22] <elcasey> tonyyarusso: but yeah, if I didn't have my wifi drivers on cd, forget it
[03:22] <elcasey> but linux is the same...edgy doesn't support my wifi card out of the box (feisty does!)
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> elcasey: Yeah, pretty much.  
[03:22] <adamant1988> Anyway, I think if we're marketing Ubuntu we need to try to alter the way people consider it
[03:22] <elcasey> my laptop works fine, it's an ipw2200
[03:23] <elcasey> but alas, they don't make PCI Centrino cards
[03:23] <adamant1988> Mine is BCM4318 :(
[03:23] <tonyyarusso> Mine's Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 a/b/g - works with ipw220
[03:23] <tonyyarusso> 0
[03:23] <adamant1988> Guys, perhaps we could take advantage of Youtube and other video sites to advertise Ubuntu?
[03:24] <elcasey> there's loads of stuff on there currently...but you have to look for it
[03:24] <adamant1988> There just has to be a way to get more exposure
[03:24] <adamant1988> I wish we could create some kind of an actual incentives program
[03:25] <elcasey> paid advertising is going to be a necessity
[03:25] <elcasey> but certainly not an easy one, and what markets and who and how?
[03:25] <adamant1988> Eh, word of mouth is typically just more effective in my experience
[03:25] <adamant1988> Paid adverts just kick-start the word of mouth
[03:26] <adamant1988> 1000 people see your ad, 900 of them will ignore it, the other 100 will get a little interested and tell people about the ad (as long as it's done properly)
[03:28] <elcasey> those ads still have to be placed
[03:28] <adamant1988> Oh they do, but that's not a concern at this moment, I don't figure.
[03:28] <adamant1988> I think Ubuntu needs to be actively targeting small business
[03:28] <elcasey> i wouldn't think so for this team, anyway...that's Canonical's issue
[03:28] <elcasey> agreed 
[03:29] <elcasey> for work desktops, I think Linux is a smashing success
[03:29] <adamant1988> We're the marketing team, that's what we are supposed to think about
[03:29] <elcasey> just use the apps for work, play a little Gnometris if you want, but *don't jack around with it*
[03:29] <adamant1988> The home user likes to fiddle
[03:29] <elcasey> and break it, and cry, because they'll never be able to run 400 commands in the terminal xD
[03:29] <adamant1988> the point is that small businesses are more than 80% of the business in the United States.
[03:30] <elcasey> whoa, i almost got all capitalist for a second
[03:30] <adamant1988> So they're the big market to try to go after. 
[03:30] <elcasey> i almost said, "But how to profit from Linux penetration?" o_0
[03:30] <adamant1988> lol
[03:30] <elcasey> it's because i haven't taken my drugs today, i'll bet :P
[03:30] <adamant1988> jenda: ping
[03:30] <elcasey> but yeah, i really do think Ubuntu is both ready and advantageous for/to small business desktops.
[03:31] <jenda> adamant1988: no way.
[03:31] <jenda> I'm asleep.
[03:31] <adamant1988> jenda: Sorry, I'll ask later then
[03:31] <jenda> :)
[03:31] <elcasey> a good groupware server is going to be imperative soon
[03:31] <jenda> is it quick?
[03:31] <elcasey> but for now, that has to be Exchange
[03:31] <adamant1988> jenda: Well, how would you feel about starting some competitive articles and gearing more of our efforts towards the small businesses?
[03:32] <jenda> Feel free to.
[03:32] <jenda> I'm not gonna do it, though ;)
[03:32] <adamant1988> Ok, so you'll let me go on a tangent on the mailing list?
[03:32] <elcasey> competitive articles?
[03:33] <adamant1988> elcasey: Well, Ubuntu has a lot going for it, but when a business is looking at their OS of choice I think the first thing on their mind would be "Which do I pick" and "Why should I pick this one"
[03:33] <jenda> elcasey: "a" and "an" 
[03:33] <jenda> competitive articles ;)
[03:33] <elcasey> LOL
[03:33] <elcasey> took me a second
[03:33] <jenda> adamant1988: feel free to expound all your ideas on the mailing list.
[03:34] <adamant1988> Some articles/information detailing why Ubuntu is a solid choice over other offerings would be needed.
[03:34] <elcasey> unfortunately I think right now, small business just thinks, "Do I buy Vista or XP?"
[03:34] <jenda> adamant1988: keep in mind the 'reinvent the wheel' syndrome, though.
[03:34] <elcasey> We have to figure out how to change that.
[03:34] <adamant1988> jenda: I'll make sure to keep that in mind
[03:34] <elcasey> is there like a "checklist" flyer in existence?
[03:34] <elcasey> Ticking off the major areas why Ubuntu rocks your face off?
[03:34] <jenda> adamant1988: ie. chances are you aren't the first who thought of it, so it might pay off to have a look at similar ideas around and what came of them.
[03:34] <adamant1988> elcasey: I think some case studies with some exposure in the kinds of literature small businesses read is a good place to start.
[03:35] <adamant1988> I can probably get a bunch of businesses here locally to make that switch
[03:35] <adamant1988> Anything they can do to cut costs would make them happy
[03:36] <lotusleaf> most businesses I've approached favor the savings they receive from switching to ubuntu and not having to pay for licenses
[03:36] <adamant1988> lotusleaf: indeed
[03:36] <lotusleaf> once you tell them they can receive support from Canonical, it's all roses
[03:37] <elcasey> good point
[03:37] <elcasey> but that gets farmed out, no?
[03:37] <adamant1988> I think the first thing we should do is start actively going to these businesses and collecting information from them
[03:37] <adamant1988> elcasey: Canonical does it's own support contracts as well
[03:37] <lotusleaf> developing a flyer aimed at businesses with this information in a slick looking way would be cool IMO
[03:37] <lotusleaf> perhaps it already exists
[03:38] <adamant1988> I'm kind of interested in ways we can get to them though
[03:38] <adamant1988> What are businesses watching, reading, etc.
[03:39] <adamant1988> Once we know where we can get some exposure at no cost, we can go from there..
[03:40] <lotusleaf> sending out an emissary to various businesses at the grassroots level armed with flyers and information would be cool
[03:41] <adamant1988> lotusleaf: Perhaps we could talk to the Loco teams about this
[03:41] <lotusleaf> is there a single piece of marketing material available (DIY like stuff) aimed at businesses?
[03:41] <adamant1988> The loco teams are a bit more mobile than we would be able to be
[03:41] <lotusleaf> adamant1988, excellent point
[03:41] <adamant1988> Probably best to actively work with them on this
[03:43] <adamant1988> Do we have a launchpad where we can make specs for this stuff?
[03:43] <adamant1988> It would be a lot easier to coordinate our efforts with a freaking launchpad :(
[03:43] <lotusleaf> jenda's the sage to ask
[03:44] <adamant1988> he's asleep
[03:44] <lotusleaf> :/
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> http://www.cbc.ca/technology/
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> Look down
[03:44] <adamant1988> the Article about Ubuntu?
[03:44] <adamant1988> I read that
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> yeah - mainstream media, we have arrived!
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> :)
[03:45] <adamant1988> Ugh, stuff like this makes me sad that I want to use Fedora lol
[03:45] <lotusleaf> I'd never go back to rpm
[03:45] <adamant1988> lotusleaf: that bad?
[03:45] <adamant1988> I haven't used it, ever.
[03:45] <lotusleaf> adamant1988, you're in #ubuntuforums or #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:45] <lotusleaf> i'll take my response there ;)
[03:45] <adamant1988> lotusleaf: you can PM me
[06:12] <boredandblogging> hello
[06:12] <dotwaffle> hi
[06:14] <boredandblogging> anything need to be done on the UWN?
[06:14] <dotwaffle> i haven't worked on it since about january, don't know who's managing it these days.
[06:14] <dotwaffle> Think it's beuno.
[06:14] <dotwaffle> Think it's pretty much done though.
[06:14] <dotwaffle> Due for release Sunday.
[06:15] <boredandblogging> yeah, its him...
[06:15] <boredandblogging> there are some links that need to be verified and summarized, not sure anyone has gotten around to looking at them yet
[06:15] <dotwaffle> wrong man to talk to, sorry ;)
[06:15] <dotwaffle> most others are asleep, i guess. it's what, 0415 UTC?
[06:16] <boredandblogging> true
[06:16] <boredandblogging> they were up later last night ;-)
[06:16] <boredandblogging> errr, early this morning
[06:16] <dotwaffle> last message I have is 0244Z, so I'm guessing they're dead by now ;)
[06:18] <dotwaffle> 0144Z even, damn you UTC!
[07:09] <Burgundavia> beuno
[07:09] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: still around?
[07:11] <boredandblogging> yeah, whats up?
[07:11] <Burgundavia> you were asking for stuff to do?
[07:11] <boredandblogging> yeah
[07:12] <boredandblogging> got something for me?
[07:13] <Burgundavia> the in the blogosphere section needs writing up
[07:14] <Burgundavia> basically, a 1 or 2 sentence blurb on each of the blogs you think are interesting
[07:14] <boredandblogging> yeah, I wasn't sure which were good enough to really be there
[07:14] <boredandblogging> thats why I hadn't summarized them yet
[07:15] <Burgundavia> all but the first one look good
[07:15] <boredandblogging> ok, I'll take care of it
[07:15] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[07:15] <Burgundavia> ping when you are done
[07:15] <boredandblogging> will do
[07:16] <poningru> quick question when is the meeting again?
[07:19] <Burgundavia> 1st
[07:28] <poningru> cool thanks
[08:00] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, summarized blogosphere and I added one link at the end.
[08:00] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: sounds good
[08:06] <Burgundavia> I think we are looking good
[08:06] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: can you give a general run through for grammer, spelling and general proofreading?
[08:07] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, sure
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> someone want to add the information about beryl / compiz merging
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> to UWN that is
[08:15] <Burgundavia> Admiral_Chicago: not relevant to ubntu
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Burgundavia: i think it fits under the realm of general linux happenings"
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i read somewhere that UWN is mostly ubuntu, but that some other stuff could be included
[08:18] <boredandblogging> does it matter if some things are british english?
[08:20] <Burgundavia> Admiral_Chicago: not really, it would get too big
[08:20] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: it all shoudl be in british/internal english
[08:21] <boredandblogging> ok
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i seem to remember reading a page that said something like that....hmm maybe i'm mistaken
[08:29] <poningru> anything I can do?
[08:29] <Burgundavia> yes, 6.10 and 6.06 updates
[08:30] <Burgundavia> and bug stats
[08:30] <boredandblogging> there is an xxx after longstanding bug report fix, not sure what thats about
[08:30] <Burgundavia> that means more needs to be written
[08:30] <boredandblogging> did a read and made some minor changes
[08:30] <boredandblogging> ahh, ok
[08:48] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: still editing?
[08:49] <Burgundavia> poningru: need help with getting that information?
[08:49] <boredandblogging> no
[08:51] <Burgundavia> would you mind getting the 6.10 and 6.06 information?
[08:51] <boredandblogging> me?
[08:52] <Burgundavia> sure
[08:52] <Burgundavia> do you know how to get it
[08:52] <boredandblogging> i can do it if someone points me where to look
[08:52] <Burgundavia> ?
[08:52] <Burgundavia> I can do it for now
[08:52] <Burgundavia> do you want to do the bugs stuff?
[08:53] <boredandblogging> same thing, where do I need to look? :-)
[08:54] <Burgundavia> the bugs are easier
[08:54] <boredandblogging> i imagine its somewhere on launchpad
[08:54] <Burgundavia> yep
[08:54] <Burgundavia> look at last weeks numbers in teh UWN
[08:54] <Burgundavia> and then look at this weeks
[08:55] <boredandblogging> ok
[08:55] <Burgundavia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:59] <boredandblogging> fyi, the security update links are broken in Issue32 because of the new ubuntu site
[09:07] <Burgundavia> yep
[09:07] <Burgundavia> and the whole site is down right now
[09:08] <boredandblogging> ahh
[09:08] <Burgundavia> we only need the bug stats now
[09:09] <Burgundavia> and then we can pass to beuno for the last bits when he gets up
[09:12] <boredandblogging> done with stats
[09:14] <Burgundavia> rocking
[09:14] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: what is your real name>
[09:14] <boredandblogging> Nick
[09:15] <boredandblogging> you are Corey, right?
[09:15] <Burgundavia> yep
[09:15] <boredandblogging> cool
[09:15] <Burgundavia> usually we use real names on the UWN
[09:15] <boredandblogging> i'll change it
[09:15] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[09:27] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, ok, added my name, let me know if there is anything else I can do, I'll be around for awhile
[09:27] <Burgundavia> I think we are good
[09:28] <boredandblogging> sweet
[09:28] <Burgundavia> oh wait, meetings and events
[09:28] <Burgundavia> we need to add the upcoming ones
[09:30] <boredandblogging> ok
[09:32] <boredandblogging> i can just grab these from the fridge right? up to next saturday?
[09:33] <Burgundavia> yep
[09:33] <boredandblogging> ok
[09:40] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, how many weeks of events do we add?
[09:40] <Burgundavia> one
[09:42] <boredandblogging> ok, 32 had a couple weeks of meetings
[09:42] <Burgundavia> no need for that
[09:44] <boredandblogging> done
[09:59] <Burgundavia> beuno: all yours!
 who is in charge of planet ubuntu?
 are they aware of http://ubuntu-linux.withishow.com/ ?
 i don't feel comfortable with them taking the feed and spitting it out with adverts, and generating revenue on that
 i didn't realise that by consenting to being aggregated by planet ubuntu, my work would be exploited elsewhere
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> tsmithe: Canonical is in charge of it afaik
[08:55] <tsmithe> ok
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure who to contact, that frustrates me as well
[08:56] <tsmithe> i'm on it
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> tsmithe: let me know what happens
[08:56] <tsmithe> sure
[08:58] <juliux> tsmithe, try it with the general admin list
[08:59] <tsmithe> general admin list?
[08:59] <tsmithe> could we continue the discussion in -devel, please?
[09:00] <juliux> tsmithe, sure
[09:11] <beuno> tsmithe: I'm not sure you can prevent others from reproducins your feeds with RSS and all
[09:11] <tsmithe> i can try my best :)
[09:11] <tsmithe> i did *not* give them permission to distribute *my* copyrighted works
[09:12] <tsmithe> i am very pro open-source, but i still am entitled to *my* thoughts
[09:12] <beuno> ah, yes, maybe you can in a legal sense, just not in a "tecnical" sense   :p
[09:12] <tsmithe> :)
[09:13] <elcasey> you should be using the GFDL anyway
[09:13] <PriceChild> beuno, The only reason for that site is to get hits onto adsense ;)
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> yep
[09:13] <PriceChild> I don't mind people aggregating me at all...
[09:13] <PriceChild> but this is just wrong :)
[09:13] <beuno> PriceChild: yeap, it's clear
[09:14] <beuno> maybe a nice C&D email?
[09:14] <tsmithe> that's what i'm in the middle of writing
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> tsmithe: will you CC me, freddymartinez9@ubuntu.com
[09:15] <beuno> and argentina@gmail
[09:15] <tsmithe> sure
[09:15] <tsmithe> i'll just post it on my blog
[09:15] <beuno> aaah
[09:15] <beuno> much better
[09:15] <jenda> tsmithe: a bit of free spirit, dude...
[09:16] <beuno> it'll go straight into there site
[09:16] <jenda> tsmithe: you should GPL your stuff :)
[09:16] <tsmithe> i don't want them making revenue, when i'm not :)
[09:16] <tsmithe> jenda, i GPL my code, but not my blog posts :)
[09:16] <jenda> jealous bastard ;)
[09:16] <PriceChild> lol
[09:16] <elcasey> aye
[09:16] <tsmithe> they are *only* representative of me
[09:16] <elcasey> you should GFDL your blog posts, as I said
[09:16] <jenda> tsmithe: and does that make sense?
[09:16] <tsmithe> yes
[09:16] <tsmithe> !ohmy | jenda 
[09:16] <elcasey> i'm switching my site to GFDL from CC...but I don't run ads, either.
[09:22] <tsmithe> ok that post should be up shortly
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> good
[09:27] <beuno> who's up to helping me proof read UWN and get it out?  :D
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: ping....i iwll
[09:27] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago, great, thanks
[09:28] <beuno> I just went through it polishing a but
[09:28] <beuno> bit
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: we need to add the "in this issue part"
[09:28] <beuno> I'm not entirely happy of the "quality" of some pieces this week, but I didn't dedicate too much time to it, so I guess I can't complain
[09:28] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: yeap, want to write that, or do you want me to?
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: thats all you, i need to email Marketing team about an error i found
[09:30] <beuno> great, on it
[09:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure how to fix it either
[09:30] <beuno> I see we don't have a team or spec of the week
[09:30] <beuno> any ideas?
[09:31] <beuno> jenda: you might have an idea
[09:32] <jenda> hmm
[09:32] <jenda> team of the week...
[09:32] <jenda> spec of the week...
[09:32] <jenda> hmm...
[09:32] <jenda> ah, there are no teams I'm not a member of...
[09:32] <jenda> *runs even
[09:33] <beuno> hahaha
[09:33] <jenda> How's about the ubuntu-website team? is that even a team? :)
[09:33] <beuno> even better, you've got "inside news"
[09:33] <beuno> hmmm, I don't know...  are they part od the community or "canonical"?
[09:33] <jenda> something in between, i'd say.
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: desktop effects team?
[09:35] <jenda> Admiral_Chicago++
[09:35] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: bingo!
[09:35] <beuno> :D
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop-effects
[09:37] <boredandblogging> beuno, how goes issue 33?
[09:37] <beuno> boredandblogging: pretty good, finishing the last bits
[09:37] <beuno> great job on it, btw
[09:37] <boredandblogging> beuno, glad I could help.
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> btw, i found some errors, i'll fix them if you're not editin beuno 
[09:38] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: go for it, I'm writing about the desktop-effects
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> removing interwiki linking.
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: all links are okay now
[09:50] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: great, thanks
[09:50] <beuno> I'm writing up the article on the team
[09:50] <beuno> then I'll sum up UWN
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, i'll do a 'in this weeks issue'
[09:50] <beuno> then, unless someone can think of a reason not too, UWN #33 is out!
[09:50] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: great, go for it
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: one more thing needs fixing...by meeting and events, that hug day needs attention
[09:53] <beuno> aaah, right
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: whats the progress
[10:19] <beuno> added the tema of the week
[10:19] <jenda> wha
[10:19] <jenda> how did jenda` get in here :)
[10:19] <jenda> oh...
[10:19] <jenda> right... :)
[10:19] <jenda> I turned on my server...
[10:20] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: "in this issue" and finxing the hag day is left
[10:23] <Admiral_Chicago> i did "in this issues iirc
[10:24] <beuno> oh, yes
[10:24] <beuno> the intro is mising, sorry
[10:24] <beuno> I'm on it
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> made one fix, i gotta run though
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> good work
[10:27] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: you too, as always, great work!
[10:27] <beuno> Burgundavia: around?
[10:27] <Burgundavia> yep
[10:31] <beuno> ready to release?
[10:31] <beuno> just need to add the summary on top, and one last look
[10:37] <Burgundavia> let me take a look
[10:39] <Burgundavia> one heading at the wrong level, but otherwise looks good
[10:41] <beuno> which one?
[10:41] <Burgundavia> the soc one
[10:41] <beuno> right
[10:41] <Burgundavia> got it
[10:42] <beuno> it sewms a bit sloppy this week, but still looks good
[10:44] <Burgundavia> you are right on that mark`
[10:44] <Burgundavia> meh
[10:45] <beuno> ok, unless you don't oppose, I'm releasing
[10:46] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[10:51] <tsmithe> nixternal, ping
[10:55] <beuno> Burgundavia: sent to the mailing list
[10:55] <beuno> all wikis updated
[10:55] <beuno> get it in the fridge and past the filter and we're offically working on #34
[10:56] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[10:56] <Burgundavia> nixternal: you alive?
[10:56] <beuno> jenda: what should we do about the forums?   post or hold off for now?
[10:58] <nixternal> yo yo, soldering on some new caps to my mobo
[10:59] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: you get that from one of our guys?
[10:59] <nixternal> nope, got it from an old mobo I had lying around
[11:02] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see
[11:03] <Admiral_Chicago> man I still can't post on your blog nixternal 
[11:09] <beuno> Burgundavia: I'm going to work on DIY, sent the email to the translators list, so the rest is on your side  :D
[11:10] <Burgundavia> have you sent to -news?
[11:10] <beuno> yeap
[11:10] <beuno> it's in moderation queue
[11:10] <Burgundavia> done
[11:11] <beuno> great, just need to see it in the fridge, and I won't bother you anymore
[11:12] <Burgundavia> fridge is in the moderation queue
[11:12] <beuno> aight, I'm off to DIY then, thanks
[11:19] <jenda> beuno: 33 is out?
[11:19] <jenda> I'll post it.
[11:19] <beuno> jenda: yeap, thanks!
[11:19] <jenda> even though I'm in the middle of reinstalling my OS ;)
[11:20] <beuno> double thanks then  :D
[11:21] <beuno> Burgundavia, jenda, I'm thinking on posting UWNs release to the planet, what do you think?
[11:21] <beuno> the planet gets a lot of expouse
[11:21] <beuno> exposure
[11:22] <Burgundavia> that they are releasd, absolutely
[11:22] <Burgundavia> the actual content shoudl stay on the wiiki
[11:22] <beuno> no the UWN itself, just a "UWN #33 is out"
[11:22] <Burgundavia> and geez, I cannot type :)
[11:22] <beuno> good, same page
[11:25] <jenda> hmm
[11:25] <jenda> Not sure if planet is the right place, ...
[11:25] <jenda> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390529
[11:26] <Burgundavia> we need to blog, asking for more people anyway
[11:26] <jenda> that, yes :)
[11:27] <beuno> yes, I'm adding a "help us out" bit
[11:32] <beuno> ok, need to shower, walk the dog, eat something and finish the UWN code
[11:32] <beuno> probably in that order
[11:32] <beuno> Burgundavia: I haven't seen the UWN mail go through to ubuntu-news
[11:33] <beuno> is there a delay?