=== ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:38] Riddell: have you changed your name and told UWN editors only? [12:39] Riddell: (sorry about the joke, it seems they spelled your name wrong - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue33 - not sure whom I should contact to fix it) === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-244-121.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db442ec.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:01] mhb: it's a wiki, edit it [01:07] fridge could do with a spell checker though [01:07] nixternal: developper ^^ === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11210nf.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:08] Riddell: fixed, sorry about that [01:08] Konqueror even shows it spelled incorrectly ;) [01:08] nixternal: well it's daniel's fault, not yours [01:08] blame firefox [01:09] Riddell: actually, no it is my fault for not catching it when "I" posted it :) [01:18] nixternal: why does it have daniel's name then? [01:19] he is the original submitter of it [01:21] "On March 31 2007 Zagreb will host the first Ubuntu conference in Croatia." apart from the one I single handedly held! [01:27] ooh, the french parliament article was corrected [01:27] bit late for slashdot alas === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-1121ak9.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211__ [n=andrew@user-11fap9g.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lotusleaf [n=drywind@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #kubuntu-devel ["trombone"] === neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.72.136] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@218.18.190.89] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@218.18.191.232] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:28] membership expires?!?!? [03:28] moin everyone [03:28] hey Jucato [03:28] hi ryanakca [03:29] "Membership lasts for two years, and is renewable. If you don't renew your status as a member you will join the "inactive members" list. Membership can be reactivated at any time after it has lapsed, on request and with the confirmation of the Community Council." [03:29] hmm... I alwais pronounced your nick Ju-cat-oh... but it's Du-cat-oh? [03:29] ah [03:29] phew === ryanakca was afraid he'd have to go threw the whole process again... [03:29] "Ju" like in Jew or Dew :) [03:30] Dew... Mountain Dew? [03:30] don't tempt me! :P [03:30] lol === ryanakca bbl [03:30] see yah :) [03:31] Oh, and, for your planet head... might want to feather it and add a backdrop... (it's really sharp/jaggedy atm)... Just making a suggestion :) [03:32] thanks [03:32] I'm planning to change it soon... once I get a better pic lol [03:32] lol [03:32] I chose/made that one (very) haphazardly. I don't know what I was thinking :) === ryanakca can't seem to find a good picture of himself for planet [03:32] lol === ryanakca gets back to english homework === Jucato gets back to studying too === naught101 [n=naught10@202.43.238.200] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A72DB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@218.18.191.232] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11fap9g.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Alpha_Cluster [n=nikkun@bsu195102.bemidjistate.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:26] anyone with admin access to kubuntu.org? [05:26] only Riddell has (afaik) [05:26] dvd link on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php [05:26] points to ubuntu's dvd [05:27] let's ask him later.. it's kinda 3:27 AM at UTC :) [05:27] so? [05:27] :) [05:28] he's sleeping? (probably?) [05:28] i'll also shoot an email, ill be asleep whan he gets up [05:28] or at work [05:28] hence the "let's"... meaning I could ask him for you later too :) [05:29] Mondays being my 13-15 hr day at work [05:29] ouch [05:29] but if you miss him, the email will be a backup :) [05:30] I won't ask him anymore if you email him already :) [05:36] why not gang up on him :) [05:36] but its sent [05:36] and im off to bed [05:36] g'night claydoh! === jack_wyt [n=jack@218.18.191.232] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.51.188.191] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.51.188.191] has joined #kubuntu-devel === billytwowilly [n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:18] hey, is konqueror in feisty supposed to not have a url window up top? [07:18] It's pretty irritating. [07:20] billytwowilly: er, it does...? [07:21] ok, so I've discovered an upgrade bug then. [07:21] hi Hobbsee! [07:21] because mine doesn't. [07:21] hey Jucato! [07:22] any ideas how to get it back and/or figure out why it's not there? === Jucato has had a total of 4 freezes on Feisty now... [07:25] Jucato: with beryl, you'll get more :P [07:26] haha :) === Jucato waits for the kernel upgrades to be fixed before dist-upgrading... [07:37] argh, no l-r-m === LongPointyStick is now known as Hobbsee [07:38] l-r-m? [07:38] yeah [07:38] being held back... [07:38] new packages must not exist yet [07:39] heh 2nd time this happened I think... === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | test the upgrader https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main" === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Feb 22 16:32:11 2007 [07:46] https://beta.launchpad.net/+builds/+build/313591/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-13-generic [07:46] for instance. [07:46] that's an LP bug IMO [07:47] you should most definitely not be able to grab binaries that have not been NEWed [07:47] if you're not a member of beta, just remove "beta." from the URL [07:47] crimsun: you assume i can get there. at the moment, i'm trying otu beryl, which i cant kill, without hardlocking my X, or my machine [07:53] that's ok, beryl loves yuo too! [07:57] hehe [07:58] there are some really trippy bugs here [07:59] my favourite is the "look, I'm a pony! No really, I'm a pony! With black screen o' death!" === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:10] hehe === Hobbsee is now known as LongPointyStick [08:10] OK, who wants to help me bubble sort parallel arrays? [08:11] err, no thanks [08:11] .oO( why bubblesort, anyhow? ) [08:12] #include ... stable_sort() [08:12] I only have a list of 5 names [08:12] nixternal: ...bubble sort....? [08:12] C++ [08:12] exactly [08:12] because the instructor said so === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-77156.0x5734b54a.naenxx12.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:13] dude, trust me, #include and use stable_sort() [08:13] bubble sort isnt one of those options. [08:13] eeek... I hate having to think of sorting et al... :/ [08:14] <_StefanS_> monings [08:14] bubble sort, quicksort... [08:14] moin _StefanS_ === Jucato sorts _StefanS_ === _StefanS_ changes shape to a bubble [08:14] hehe [08:14] <_StefanS_> :D === Jucato gets back to summarizing chapter 3 [08:16] dualsort, fscksort === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:22] <_StefanS_> Jucato: hamstersort [08:23] :D [08:23] still no mobile hamster :( [08:23] <_StefanS_> what the... [08:23] <_StefanS_> hmm you got to stand up for yourself and demand it ! [08:23] <_StefanS_> ;) [08:23] yeah... and after getting into a "fight" with my sister, I don't know when it will come... [08:23] <_StefanS_> hehe [08:23] well, she can't "give it up" until she gets the new one from the office [08:24] <_StefanS_> oh my.. there's been alot of updates during the weekend [08:24] <_StefanS_> 155mb pending [08:24] ooh [08:24] careful [08:24] <_StefanS_> ? [08:24] linux-restricted-modules missing in latest updates [08:25] <_StefanS_> it will usually hold them back I think.. [08:25] yep [08:25] except in this case, it will still install the new kernel so when you boot into that kernel and were using proprietary drivers... no X :) [08:26] <_StefanS_> oh yep [08:26] <_StefanS_> its done.. [08:26] <_StefanS_> hmm I will just dont reboot it [08:26] :) === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:28] hm... shouldn't you be *not* able to open one instance of the Software Properties (Manage Repositories) app at a time? [08:29] <_StefanS_> donno actually [08:29] anyone can answer :) [08:29] anyway, I think that's the behavior on Ubuntu/GNOME (where the app was from originally) [08:30] <_StefanS_> uhm whatever :) [08:30] <_StefanS_> never use it [08:30] :P [08:30] <_StefanS_> gotta go take a dump [08:30] O.o [08:34] <_StefanS_> back to attack [08:34] <_StefanS_> I see the bluetooth issue was resovled === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato will test later [08:35] <_StefanS_> uhm [08:35] <_StefanS_> ok === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:37] because my phone ran out of juice, and that's the only bluetooth device I have :) [08:39] <_StefanS_> heh.. need a charger ? :) [08:40] chargin' as we speak :) [08:40] <_StefanS_> well gotta try also.. [08:40] <_StefanS_> brb [08:40] (actually, I didn't realize that it was drained till you mentioned the bluetooth thing) === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-77156.0x5734b54a.naenxx12.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.179.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:12] crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12116/ <- just had to keep the elements of the array in sync and it worked [09:12] I have to do what the teach wants, although she has let me get away with some hacks before [09:12] nixternal: can I make money off your blog posts? :) [09:12] Jucato: sure you can! [09:12] if you can, then you are better than I am [09:12] er... s/can/may :) === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:13] hehehe :P [09:13] Jucato: if you make money off of my blog posts, you will end up on Dateline, to catch an Internet Scammer! [09:13] seeing as you aren't here in the US, that one probably flew right over your head [09:13] nixternal: that code looks unbelievably clean. now to try making sense of it :P [09:13] I can make sense of it [09:13] I am half way through my Intro class === Jucato is still a C++ baby :) [09:14] Jucato: as am I [09:14] :) [09:14] on that note, I am going to crash [09:14] 2:15am here [09:14] yeah. good night! :) [09:14] g'nite! [09:36] hm... just notice that kaffeine isn't a direct Depends of kubuntu-desktop :) [09:36] but is still installed because of kaffeine-xine. curious :) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:40] _StefanS_: confirmed. kdebluetooth pin helper working now :) [09:40] how nice [09:40] <_StefanS_> Jucato: uhm ok, Mine worked without me punching in a code now.. [09:40] <_StefanS_> must have been cached somewhere [09:40] heh :) [09:40] <_StefanS_> oh maybe I should try another pinc [09:40] <_StefanS_> pin [09:41] :P === Jucato gets back to studying again [09:41] <_StefanS_> good luck [09:42] thanks === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger [10:25] <_Sime_> Riddell: hey [10:26] <_Sime_> Riddell: I just got back from a snowboarding weekend. I'll try to get 0.8 of guidance in order today. (night bus from La Plangem, but got today off still). === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.179.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:24] _Sime_: great [11:26] <\sh> Riddell: is k3b broken right now? I can't burn cds on my t43 here :( [11:27] <\sh> (k3b or better cdrecord) [11:31] \sh: works for me [11:32] \sh: checked wodim wfm === Tonio_ [n=tonio@249.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:39] hi === naught101 [n=naught10@202.43.238.200] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-052-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:53] hi i'm on kubuntu feisty with an Nvidia geforce 4 mx 440, for this graphic card the proper driver are the 1.0.9631, but since 2.6.20-13 the nvidia-glx package only provide 1.0.9733 wich doesn't work with mine; i need to switch back my xorg to nv: any ideas ?? [11:54] oslo: no X developers here [11:54] oslo: You should try #kubuntu for support requests. [11:55] <\sh> hmmm...I always get buffer underruns just before it starts to burn....gnome works [12:05] Riddell: about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/61946 [12:05] Malone bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss] umount progress dialog missing" [High,Confirmed] [12:05] Riddell: jdong talks about possible /etc config files to modify to get the unmount dialog to work... [12:06] Riddell: that's policy break, but for that so old critical issue, and as it'll not be fixed before kde4, I think we should make an exception to the policy no ? [12:07] I wonder what opensuse or mandriva are doing with that issue.... [12:08] also we're unsure to propore kde4 by default with feisty+1, and I really don't want to stay with that issue for one more year..... === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:11] Tonio_: seems like a sane idea [12:15] Riddell: I'll investigate this today, as this is probably kde bug #1 atm... ;) [12:15] jdong as the infos, I'll ping him [12:16] Lure: ping ? === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:18] Riddell: ho and FYI, final beta doesn't boot on macbook pro [12:18] I'll report this [12:22] so the new nvidia-glx ( 1.0.9733 ) doesn't work for me and with 1.0.9631 i can start with nvidia on 2.6.20-12 but not on 2.6.20-13 ... [12:22] sorry i'll go to kubuntu [12:25] hm? [12:27] Tonio_: hi [12:27] Lure: hey ;) [12:28] Lure: what is the point is the unmount dialog missing with kde ? [12:28] Lure: I cannot find any bug related to this on nightmare kde bts... [12:28] Tonio_: I think it is related to hal changes [12:28] I'm pretty sure there exist a workarroud somewhere [12:28] Lure: it is [12:28] Tonio_: probably, but nobody really looked into this (beside jdong) [12:28] Lure: but there is certainly a workarround by fixing hal in /etc [12:29] Lure: we can probably make an exception to the debian policy for this [12:29] Lure: this is critical issue (data loss) [12:29] Lure: I'm downloading opensuse live to check if they fixed it or not [12:29] Tonio_: if you wait couple of seconds, then no data loss ;-) [12:30] Tonio_: I think it is important bug, but not end of world [12:30] Lure: last time I tried (copying 2 gb datas) I had to wait 10 minutes......... [12:30] Lure: for average joe this is a nightmare bug, honnestly === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-63-220.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:31] Tonio_: yep, right - I typically use it for small amounts on my key [12:31] I can't find related bug for suse or mandriva, anything refers to kubuntu........ [12:31] nothing on kde bts too..... strange.... [12:32] I know that's upstream issue, but there is certainly a fix/workarround if nobody complains [12:32] http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=kde+%22unmount+dialog%22+hal+media+devices&btnG=Rechercher&meta= [12:32] as you can see :) [12:33] or this: http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=kde+%22unmount+dialog%22+hal+usb+keys&btnG=Rechercher&meta= [12:33] http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=kde+%22progress+dialog+missing%22&btnG=Rechercher&meta= [12:33] or this too :) [12:33] I can see 2 options : [12:33] everyone uses kubuntu :) [12:33] or there is a fix somewhere :) === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db4414b.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:35] Tonio_ : Or kubuntu has just the smartest users who are the only to realize this glitch :-) [12:35] rbrunhuber: hehe, I doubt that :) === waylandbill [n=kvirc@74-34-7-87.dsl1-merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/93141 [12:59] Malone bug 93141 in k3b "Should update to k3b 1.0 before feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:59] it will be available for feisty ? === Riddell grumps at Kmos [01:00] only the 10th person to ask :) [01:01] hm... I think 10th+... 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[02:54] Hobbsee: any chance of using your pointy stick to "encourage" core devs to have 3 nvidia drivers? :) [02:55] Jucato: er, close to none [02:55] :( [02:55] Jucato : Even better free than three :-) [02:56] heh :) [02:57] Jucato : Don't you think this will be merged back in the legacy drivers by nvidia? I can't believe ther will be a geforce 4 gap for long. [02:57] rbrunhuber: mooh [02:58] rbrunhuber: maybe... but as of version 9755, nvidia supports 3 "groups": current, 96xx, and 71xx [02:58] http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html [03:00] Jucato : Don't you think they will release a 71xx+96xx legacy package + current [03:00] I really don't know with nvidia... I haven't used Linux that long to monitor how they handle this sort of transition... [03:01] Jucato : I'm not sure if they ever had such a transition before. I mean 2+ legacy packages + 1 current. [03:02] we could probably wait to see if nvidia will merge 71xx and 96xx... but in the meantime... what do we 96xx users do? we will be forced to stick to edgy, or use the drivers from nvidia.com or use nv [03:05] Jucato: you can say about this in #ubuntu-kernel (?) but well, don't know if they will listen you :/ [03:05] Jucato: I don't know: Cry, Complain, Demonstrate, suicide :-)? [03:06] well, I thought poking Hobbsee would be nice :) [03:07] Riddell: any news regarding k3b? I am updating k9copy for UVFe and it looks like it needs k3b 1.0 to build [03:16] Lure: tollef said he'll look at it [03:20] did someone put thru a polyester upload or something??? [03:22] not so's I've noticed, why? [03:22] hrm. it's buggering up my firefox settings [03:22] Riddell: meeting is in 6.5 hours, isnt it? [03:23] Hobbsee: yes === Hobbsee curses [03:23] @schedule [03:23] Schedule for Etc/UTC: 27 Mar 08:00: MOTU | 27 Mar 20:00: Technical Board | 28 Mar 20:00: Edubuntu | 28 Mar 22:00: Xubuntu | 29 Mar 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Apr 20:00: Marketing Team [03:24] yay nothing for me :) [03:24] Why do all my KDE apps suddenly use .Net style? [03:24] hunger: they shouldn't [03:25] What is supposed to be the default style? === Hobbsee doesnt do 6am meetings when she's only going to end up going to bed at 1 or later, the night before [03:25] plastik [03:26] polyester for Feisty [03:26] oh ya [03:26] Neither plastik nor polyester is installed. [03:26] All was well yesterday:-( [03:26] ah that's why it goes to .Net... [03:27] what the.... [03:27] I did a biggish KDE update this morning. Is it possible that caused the styles to vanish? === Hobbsee blames beryl [03:28] hm.. my updates earlier didn't seem to uninstall anything [03:28] Jucato: All my "old" apps still look OK, it is just the stuff I started recently that uses .Net style. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] probably because Plastik or Polyester were uninstalled? :/ [03:29] Hmmm... kde-style-polyester is still installed. [03:31] Reinstalling it does not help. [03:31] Looks like only the default qt styles are available. [03:32] strange... [03:32] .net, cde, win98, motif, motif plus, phase, platinum and sgi. That's it. === hunger did a qt-update this morning as well. === Tonio_ [n=tonio@74.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee blames beryl [03:34] Hobbsee: That is not installed. [03:35] hmm, I have no problems [03:35] hunger: ohhhh! [03:35] is that it! [03:35] all qt styles are there, also Beryl is [03:35] though I don't run Beryl [03:36] Tm_T: what was just upgraded? [03:36] hm? [03:36] the qt stuff [03:37] well, some time ago yes [03:38] Tm_T: Did you restart? Only freshly started apps are effected here. [03:38] no, there was somethign qt based upgraded tonight [03:39] hunger: well, I did start kcontrol for example (: [03:39] to check if all styles are still there, and they are [03:39] Tm_T: Great:-( I hate Beta... that is when everything breaks for me. [03:40] Tm_T: kcontrol does not work at all here:-( [03:40] O.o [03:40] Tm_T: That is almost completely empty. [03:40] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ? [03:41] Jucato: Is already at the newest version. [03:41] really weird... [03:41] hm.. could it be environment variables? [03:42] Jucato: Possible, but it worked yesterday and I did not log out, so it is not very likely. === Jucato squeezes his brain for more ideas... [03:42] oh btw, nice group pic :) === Hobbsee attempts to figure out what she upgraded today [03:43] that's what I love about aptitude :) [03:44] libqt3-mt is the package [03:44] I upgraded qt at 14:44. I guess this is when stuff broke. [03:46] hunger: you got 3.5.6 feisty repos enabled, by any chance? [03:47] Hobbsee: Only a.u.c/u feisty main restricted universe multiverse [03:48] oh, found it === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm155.omega127.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:49] hunger: go back to version qt-x11-free | 3:3.3.8-0ubuntu2 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au feisty/main Sources [03:49] hmm [03:49] Riddell: ping? [03:49] g'day sport [03:49] hunger: once you do that, all works fine [03:49] Riddell: why the qt breakage? [03:50] what's all broken? [03:50] Riddell: qt-x11-free - see backscroll [03:51] [23:31] Looks like only the default qt styles are available. [03:51] but all fine here [03:51] Tm_T: open a new window? [03:51] I do it all the time [03:51] Hobbsee: Yeap, downgrading fixes things for me. [03:51] hunger: nice [03:51] Hobbsee: Thanks! [03:52] Hobbsee: I can even try new KDE session if you don't trust me yet :p [03:52] Any idea why kcontrol is empty? The guidance thingy works fine, so I never bothered to investigate. [03:52] Tm_T: which version do you have installed? [03:52] Hobbsee: version of what exactly? [03:52] Tm_T: libqt3-mt [03:52] I will find out in a few minutes, too I guess.. === Jucato is just doing the upgrades now [03:53] oh [03:53] Installed: 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu1 [03:53] intersting versionname [03:53] hehe [03:53] Tm_T: That is the one that broke for me. [03:53] Tm_T: you should see the ones for the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics [03:53] Oh, the joy of beta versions:-| [03:54] Hobbsee: 0.14.6-0ubuntu7 <- what's interesting in this [03:54] Tm_T: no, what they used to be [03:54] With alpha stuff the fixes at least come in so fast that you have no time to experience the bugs:-) [03:54] Hobbsee: ah, roger [03:54] including versions of -seriously-this-time === Tm_T waits versions of -including-poetry-by-sarah-hobbs === Tm_T hides === seanor22 [n=gandalf@gob75-7-82-247-114-32.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:55] haha [03:55] hello everyone ! === Hobbsee cant write poetry === hunger feels like a gentoo user: Constantly waiting for (KDE4) to build. [03:56] Anyone familiar with the kubuntu upgrader tool ? [03:56] Hobbsee: even to versionlines? [03:56] my kubuntu upgrader is stuck on preparing the upgrade -> 71 files out of 73 [03:56] what can I do [03:57] I'd like to help out on the beta, but have no dvd player [03:58] Riddell: ^ [03:58] seanor22: downloading or installing/configuring? [03:59] Fetching file 71 of 73 === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:59] seanor22: sounds like a network or archive server problem [03:59] seanor22: you sure it's stuck and not just a long download? [04:00] Heya [04:00] Riddell: I have an excellent connection, and it went 1-99% in less than a second [04:01] seanor22: try quitting and restarting [04:01] try changing the mirror if you keep getting the problem [04:01] Riddell: I've tried from work and home === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:02] Riddell: quit restart does nothing [04:02] wb Hobbsee :) [04:02] Riddell: what mirror should I put ? === hunger waits for a fixed qt3. [04:02] Riddell: Just got error message [04:03] seanor22: plain archive.ubuntu.com probably the most reliable [04:03] seanor22: what's that? [04:03] Riddell: Can I paste it somewhere ? [04:03] ok, one of my repositories (packages.freecontrib.org) causes an error [04:04] :) === Hobbsee now has a nice konvi [04:04] seanor22: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/ [04:04] Hobbsee: implying konvi wasn't nice before? :) [04:05] http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/77 [04:05] Jucato: not using motif...no. [04:05] Hobbsee: lol :) [04:06] Ever tried to change a name of a file in /tmp when building kde4? [04:07] Does not work: Whenever the directory contents changes (that is whenever the compiler starts at a new file) the edit-thingy is closed:-) [04:08] hmm, now I must try konversation with motif [04:09] haha === Tm_Konvi [n=travolta@ruusuleinikki.telemail.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:10] ooh, this is rather nice )( [04:11] looks somewhat interesting, especially with Oxygen icons [04:11] Tm_Konvi: what's that? [04:12] motif widget style? O.o [04:12] Konversation with motif style === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@cm155.omega127.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:12] old meets new interestingly now [04:13] Tm_Konvi has perverted taste :) [04:13] sssh! [04:13] better not to mention last night, Jucato [04:13] whops! [04:13] hmph [04:13] don't let the cat out of the bag [04:14] hehe [04:14] (: [04:14] must use motif style somewhere someday [04:15] back to testing -> [04:27] Hobbsee, Tm_T: I can confirm hunger's bug too :) [04:29] luckily, I'm using Domino :P [04:35] good morning! [04:36] heya nixternal! [04:36] moin nixternal! [04:36] easy now, to much highlighting is bad for one's eyes [04:36] :) [04:36] nixternal: hehehe :) [04:36] nixternal: oops sorry [04:36] grrrr [04:36] hehe [04:38] nixternal: what eye? [04:38] singular one? === nixternal leaves that one alone === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.242.224.230] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:39] nixternal: http://www.yesworld.com/lyrics/Drama.html [04:40] nixternal: see the Machine Messiah Part 2 endlines [04:40] is that what I think it is? [04:41] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.48.105.48] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:43] btw it's sometimes fun to speak only using song names etc [04:43] hehe [04:43] and no, I do not listen music too much === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.48.105.48] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kdefreak [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N716P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:55] Riddell: is it ok to include fixes like this in k3b 1.0 package: kde 143181 and kde 143236 [04:56] KDE bug 143181 in general "burn speed can no longer be set" [Wishlist,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143181 [04:56] KDE bug 143236 in Video DVD "unable to calculate video image size and fail when adding files" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143236 [04:59] Lure: must be. [05:00] fdoving: I think so too, I just want to know if Ridell want them before inclusion or after ;-) [05:00] they are all "one"-liners. [05:00] fdoving: particularly the first one ;-) [05:01] yeah, the second one is bigger. [05:01] but much of the second one are comments. [05:01] fdoving: but I agree they are important fixes that we should watch and include before release [05:01] fdoving: such bugs can cause lots of bad taste to users [05:02] exactly. [05:02] i'm totaly for inclusion. [05:02]