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ins-dragonclawarchangel_: do you get an error message?12:11
n6rejnick_: do you have another computer there?12:11
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archangel_yes12:12
nick_no, its on order from tiger direct12:12
ins-dragonclawand it is... ?12:12
archangel_The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.12:12
n6rejins-dragonclaw: can u man mount and df the cd?12:12
ins-dragonclawouch12:12
ins-dragonclawmkay can't help there12:12
crackhead_25__n6rej: how do i cycle through the icons in sys set without using the mouse?12:12
ins-dragonclawn6rej: English?12:12
n6rejarch pastebin your sources.list12:12
archangel_ Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.12:12
nick_i had windows, it was illegal copy, got tired of activation and all the BS that goes along with micro$oft so i dloaded kubuntu12:12
ins-dragonclawah12:13
ins-dragonclawso window$ bit back12:13
n6rejcrackhead_25__: if this was windows I'd say ctrl-tab and alt tab but I don't know here.12:13
ins-dragonclawbut see if the CD opens on a WinXP machine12:13
nick_it does12:13
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nick_i already copied the pics once12:13
ins-dragonclawohhKAY12:13
crackhead_25__anybody?? how do you cycle through the icons in a window without using the mouse??12:13
n6rejnick_: oic!12:13
jarnIs there anyway to make it so KDE closes Firefox correctly when logging out and shutting down? Firefox always says it has crashed, which means that it doesn't store the session correctly.12:13
nick_but my computer crashed when i tried to patch the winlogon for acivation LOL12:13
ins-dragonclawjarn - use Konqueror :)12:13
nick_yes, windows bit back12:13
ins-dragonclawlol12:13
n6rejnick_: LOL12:14
ins-dragonclawit usually does12:14
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nick_xp looks like something from toys R us12:14
n6rejnick_: what kind of cd is it? an cd-rw? or what?12:14
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nick_CD-R12:14
ins-dragonclawXp feels more primitive than Kubuntu ...  i can't explain it12:14
jarnins-dragonclaw: Konqueror doesn't do that either. And konqueror is way too unstable for me... it crashes atleast once a day and it doesn't like some javascript. Neither Google Pages nor Gmail display right in Konqueror, among other things.12:14
n6rejnick how did you make it?12:14
archangel_no idea crackhead_25__12:14
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n6rejins-dragonclaw: try OSX you'll flip!12:14
nick_used XP burning12:14
nick_right click "send to CD"12:15
ins-dragonclawmy Konqueror runs perfectly. maybe you just set it up wrong or something ... are you on Dapper or Edgy?12:15
jarnEdgy12:15
ins-dragonclawn6rej: i know OSX well12:15
n6rejnick_: OH! ok, thats a unique format12:15
archangel_I always carry 1 or 2 spare mice,  but I'm a nerd12:15
ins-dragonclawand yes, it is brilliant12:15
ins-dragonclawand yes, I can set up K to mirror it12:15
n6rejins-dragonclaw: what the heck is that format called?? I can't recall this second...12:15
ins-dragonclawbut i HATE the one-button mouse :/12:15
n6rejins-dragonclaw: I saw that, how well does it work?12:15
ins-dragonclawthere's ISO and CDFS12:15
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nick_FIY i have problems with konqerer too12:15
ins-dragonclawnever tried emulating OSX12:15
n6rejins-dragonclaw: no there's another12:15
ins-dragonclawhmmm12:16
nick_it likes to freeze12:16
jarnHaving a mouse with one button is like having a brain with one lobe...12:16
ins-dragonclawerrrr... U-something12:16
ins-dragonclawjarn - Mac-function+click12:16
ins-dragonclawUDFS?12:16
n6rejhang on let me go look, nero can do that too, as can many more12:16
ins-dragonclawno can't be12:16
jarnins-dragonclaw: Err... what?12:16
nick_well ill be getting my new pc next week12:16
nick_ill copy the pics from there12:16
ins-dragonclawthe other FS for CDs12:16
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ins-dragonclawthe mac's one-button-mouse becomes a two-button quite easily12:17
ins-dragonclawand if i had to only have 1 brain lobe, i'd take the creative half ;)12:17
nick_id take the sex half12:17
ins-dragonclaw...12:17
crackhead_25__that's not a half12:17
jarnins-dragonclaw: That doesn't make it any less lame.12:17
ins-dragonclawexactly12:17
nick_lol12:17
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stelhanI'd take the half that Chuck Norris would take.12:17
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ins-dragonclawwell, you get two-button mice12:17
n6rejjoliet, rock-ridge, theres more... darn....12:17
crackhead_25__(nor are they actually considered to exist in halves anymore.. )12:17
jarnins-dragonclaw: I want to use the mouse or the keyboard, I don't want to use both unless I'm playing a game.12:17
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ins-dragonclawbut I don't like Mac for it's exclusitivity12:18
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AirRavenThen use a MIghty Mouse.12:18
ins-dragonclawi mean, they have like 3% of the global desktop markey12:18
ins-dragonclawmarket*12:18
AirRaven*Everyone* loves non-working trackballs12:18
ins-dragonclawand tech support is probably a nightmare12:18
nick_markey sounded better\12:18
MinceRmarkey mark12:18
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ins-dragonclawso i stick to linux - free, but just as good if not better12:18
ins-dragonclawlol12:18
AirRavenApple Tech Support left a friend of mine hanging computerless for 2 months whilst they "fixed" it. Utterly lousy.12:19
ins-dragonclawmarkey12:19
ins-dragonclawExactly12:19
n6rejins-dragonclaw: its UDF12:19
jarnIck, I was so happy when I got away from mice with trackballs. (Is the plural of a mouse mice or mouses? With animals I know it's mice, but with hardware...?)12:19
ins-dragonclawYES12:19
ins-dragonclawTold you - U-Something :)12:19
MinceRmice12:19
ins-dragonclawmice12:19
n6rejins-dragonclaw: lol12:19
ins-dragonclawlol12:19
MinceRmeeces!12:19
ins-dragonclaw...12:19
ins-dragonclawmices12:19
ins-dragonclawI are having many mices12:19
jarnlol12:19
n6rejmices?12:19
ins-dragonclawok... setting mode ins-dragonclaw -random12:20
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ins-dragonclawwell, it happened12:20
n6rej!udf12:20
ins-dragonclawI'm officially hooked on an album designed for 11-year olds12:20
n6rejlol12:20
ins-dragonclawmusic album*12:20
ins-dragonclawHillsong Kids12:20
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ins-dragonclawjust for reference: I'm 1712:21
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n6rejnick_: take a look and see if apt-get has "linux-udf" or do sudo apt-cache search udf and see if you can find a driver12:21
n6rejins-dragonclaw: then your excused LOL12:21
alakhiai have a newbie question about ssh: how do I have it save my passwd?12:21
ins-dragonclawlol12:21
ins-dragonclawssh is a protocol12:21
alakhiamy apologies if this is not the right place to ask12:21
ins-dragonclawwhat client are you using?12:21
n6rejalakhia: it doesn't your program can though12:22
ins-dragonclawhell, we'll try and help anyway12:22
alakhiai am using rsync12:22
n6rejEEEEEK12:22
ins-dragonclawlol12:22
n6rejdid he just swear?12:22
ins-dragonclawwho? alakhia?12:22
alakhiais there a better way?12:22
ins-dragonclaw:P12:22
n6rej*nid*12:22
ins-dragonclawhmmm12:22
n6rej*nod* even12:22
ins-dragonclawlol12:22
alakhia:)12:22
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n6rejalakhia: go read up about rsync, last I read it was still a terribly insecure variant12:23
alakhiaI hate sftp12:23
alakhiabecause it doesn't recurse12:23
archangel_no clues on why adept is inoperable?12:23
n6rejalakhia: yeah, well ftp is bad anyway, so ....12:23
ins-dragonclaw --password-file=FILE    read password from FILE12:23
n6rejarchangel_: show me ur sources via pastebin12:23
ins-dragonclawstore your password in a file and use --password when you use rsync12:23
alakhian6rej: it's my local network ... so I don't care too much about security12:23
ins-dragonclawthat's about the best I can do12:23
n6rejOMG is that all ins?12:23
eilkeris there achannel for domain and web hosting  in freenode ?12:23
archangel_comming up12:24
eilker*a channel12:24
ins-dragonclawhey! I didn't even know Rsync until about 20 seconds ago!12:24
n6rejalakhia: then why not just use nfs and be done with it?12:24
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n6rejwhy ssh at all?12:24
ins-dragonclaw...good point12:24
alakhian6rej: isn't nfs too complicated?12:24
ins-dragonclawif security's not an issue12:24
archangel_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12066/12:24
ins-dragonclawGeez... I have gospel, rap, rock, new age and trance in one playlist...12:25
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archangel_that is the error12:25
ins-dragonclaweveryone from Hillsong though Linkin Park to Eminem12:25
ins-dragonclawOo12:25
n6rejalakhia: not from what I understand, its just terribly insecure but if youw ant something superduper simple install vsftpd and your done!12:25
alakhian6rej: hmmm, ok, will look into it. Thanks.12:25
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n6rejarchangel_: I don't want the error.. try this ... sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources/source.list12:26
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ins-dragonclawI miss that plugin...12:26
archangel_k12:26
ins-dragonclawwhere /z printed my current playing song...12:26
n6rejalakhia: theres a guide on the ubuntu website under "server guide" that has a vsftpd section.  vsftpd is super easy to conif and lightening fast.12:26
archangel_what should I see?12:26
ins-dragonclawspeed <is relative to> bandwidth12:26
crackhead_25why does everytime i restart my xserver, my mouse pointer turn invisible (although the mouse can still function (if i can guess where the pointer is))??12:27
n6rejarchangel_:  a text file yes?12:27
ins-dragonclawcrackhead_25: your PC has a crush on you12:27
n6rejins-dragonclaw: gigabit ethernet but it is being choked by 100mb hub12:27
archangel_uuummmmm...a file yes....minus the text12:27
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ins-dragonclawthere's a setting in System Settings -> Mouse and Keyboard -> Mouse that says "Locate the mouse when i press Ctrl"12:27
ins-dragonclawtry that12:27
crackhead_25ins-dragonclaw: im sure, but i have to whip it in line a bit then12:27
n6rejcrackhead_25: let me look at something12:27
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archangel_I have file location at the top12:28
ins-dragonclawn6rej: if i told you my maximum downstream speed you'll die12:28
archangel_and options at the bottom12:28
ins-dragonclawpromise12:28
archangel_nothing in the middle12:28
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n6rejcrackhead_25: in the mouse section if you've changed anything ever, you might want to check "defaults" to reset stuff.12:29
n6rejins-dragonclaw: you on dial-up?12:29
ins-dragonclawI use WVDIAL to connect - do the math12:29
n6rejarchangel_: paste whast in the file12:29
alakhian6rej: the vsftpd server is actually for ftp ... not nfs12:29
ins-dragonclawyep12:29
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n6rejins-dragonclaw: wow,12:30
ins-dragonclawhence vs_FTP_pd12:30
alakhian6rej: right ... :)12:30
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alakhian6rej: ins-dragonclas ... :)12:30
n6rejalakhia: yep, but if your just going to send files use that, if you need more use nfs12:30
ins-dragonclawn6rej: Theoretical max downstream: 10kBytes/s. Usual speed: 4kBytes/s12:30
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n6rejins-dragonclaw: you sea bound?12:30
ins-dragonclawmy poor modem has done over 1024mb of data transfer by now...12:30
soulrideruhm12:31
archangel_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12071/12:31
soulrideri feel so tempted to try and upgrade to feisty12:31
alakhian6rej: nfs sounds better to me ... found the guide and the section related to that12:31
soulriderbut i dont want kubuntu to die again12:31
ins-dragonclawi -DID- mention that i use a SE k750i's GPRS modem to connect, right? :p12:31
n6rejwhat the heck?12:31
soulriderins-dragonclaw: at what speed do you dl ?12:31
n6rejarchangel_: what did you do?12:32
ins-dragonclaw<ins-dragonclaw> n6rej: Theoretical max downstream: 10kBytes/s. Usual speed: 4kBytes/s12:32
soulriderGPRS, isnt that like REALLY slow ?12:32
ins-dragonclawjust pasted the stats again12:32
soulrideroh shyte12:32
ins-dragonclawlol12:32
soulriderhow did you download a gb! :P12:32
soulrideri remember when i got DSL12:32
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ins-dragonclawover 8 months or so12:32
n6rej!easysource | archangel_12:32
ubotuarchangel_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:32
soulriderit was uber fast, 64Kb/64Kb :P12:32
n6rejarch, go rebuild your apt!!  its hosed!12:32
ins-dragonclawI have access to a line at my local temple: max i've seen it do is 226kB/s downstream12:33
n6rejins-dragonclaw: why use the gprs?12:33
archangel_an attempt to upgrade12:33
soulriderlocal temple ?12:33
ins-dragonclawbecause my parents don't believe in DSL12:33
n6rejarchangel_: ah12:33
soulriderlol12:33
archangel_someone was helping me online12:33
ins-dragonclawoh, church12:33
soulriderahh i see12:33
ins-dragonclawHatfield Christian Church12:33
archangel_thats all I know12:33
soulrideryou use ubuntu CE ?12:33
ins-dragonclawbut it's beyond 'church'12:33
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archangel_I cant really tell you what I did, cause I ahve no idea12:34
archangel_lol12:34
n6rejins-dragonclaw: actually I think I understand what they are trying to accomplish.12:34
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ins-dragonclawwho is the 'they' ?12:34
n6rejins-dragonclaw: look here ... http://www.thewish.info12:34
n6rejyour parents12:34
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_: history | grep apt12:34
ins-dragonclawno, i know darn well what they/re trying to accomplish12:34
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ins-dragonclaw: Nothing.12:34
Admiral_Chicagothat'll show you everything you did from CLI12:34
n6rejins-dragonclaw: LOL12:34
ins-dragonclawno kidding12:35
ins-dragonclawOo12:35
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ins-dragonclawit's very cheap to install DSL, and local rates are only that much more expensive12:35
soulriderwhat will ahppen if you spend a fortune in dual-up? :P12:35
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archangel_ok done12:35
ins-dragonclawbut they use dialup and stick to the ulcers they get12:35
ins-dragonclawsoulrider: Nothing12:35
steveireIs there a voip application for kubuntu? Something like skype. Also using a protocol that's available on a windows application.12:35
ins-dragonclawapart from my dismemberment12:35
ins-dragonclawEkiga Softphone?12:36
n6rejins-dragonclaw: but what does it expose you to?  What POSSIBLE issues could come with it?  Just like archangel tv12:36
Skrotsteveire: Well, there's skype.12:36
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archangel_nothing still12:36
n6rejsteveire: skype is available12:36
ins-dragonclawn6rej: nothing new. What I access from grps (IRC POP3 and webs) is what i'll access via dsl12:36
ins-dragonclawoh, and the odd torrent :)12:36
n6rejins-dragonclaw: they probably have to be proven that?12:36
steveireskype has never worked for me. I had audio problems and call dropping and everything.12:37
n6rejsteveire: they've updated it recently.12:37
n6rejworks great for me.12:37
ins-dragonclawokay. assuming that I prove that it's safe clean fast costeffective and worth it ... they still won;t get it12:37
n6rejbut yes there are other voip apps12:37
steveireekiga seems to be a gnome application.12:37
n6rejins-dragonclaw: are they truly "christians"?12:37
steveiren6rej: Do you use a repo version?12:37
soulriderins-dragonclaw: if they are like that with DSL, i dont wanna know what they will do if you turn out to be gay :P12:38
n6rejsteveire: dpkg12:38
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archangel_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12074/12:38
steveireGot a repo for me?12:38
archangel_what do I d?12:38
archangel_o12:38
n6rejsoulrider: I'm slightly homophobic because of my beliefs, but as long as you don't press "your" lifestyle onto mine I leave it be.12:38
soulrideri see n6rej12:39
soulrideri would ahve a discussion about it, but it would probably turn into an argument and this place isnt appropiate12:39
archangel_I have to take my son to the doc...he has the plague12:39
soulriderarchangel_:  =/12:39
n6rejsoulrider: cc, I just take that man for what he said.12:39
n6rejsoulrider: I could explain more but this aint the place.12:40
archangel_I will have to continue this in12:40
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archangel_a little while12:40
archangel_thanks bye12:40
ins-dragonclawgrah12:40
soulridern6rej: wanna go to offtopic ?12:40
n6rejarchangel_: try rebooting, I don't know what you've got going on its more then one issue12:40
n6rejsoulrider: query12:40
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soulriderk12:40
steveire!skpye12:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skpye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
steveire!skype12:41
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto12:41
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Arwenthis channel isn't +t?12:44
Arwensweet!12:44
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Admiral_Chicagoi think it actually is...12:44
sstchurAnyone know if the mouse cursor theme used in openSuse is publicly available?12:44
steveireArwen: Nice name12:44
Arwen......12:44
ins-dragonclawlol12:44
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Arwensee? not +t12:44
sasqknetworkman stops updating the list of wireless spots... why, and what can I do about it?12:44
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ins-dragonclaw...12:45
Arwenlol....12:45
ins-dragonclawsomeone set +nrt12:45
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Arwen.....12:45
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Arwenbetter12:45
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Admiral_Chicagolets not play with the topic, least we get angy devs12:45
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crackhead_25n6rej: i haent changed anything12:48
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crackhead_25i think it has to do with gpm or gmp whatever you call it, the mouse driver used when switching over between xsessions and other things.. somehow i want to disengage/remove it?? but i dont know how..12:48
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AmyRose_That's it. Konversation sucks.12:54
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AmyRose_XChat is better.12:55
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ins-dragonclaw...lol...12:55
SkrotAmyRose: What's better about it?12:56
ins-dragonclawhello AmyRose_, by the way12:56
AmyRoseSkrot, XChat has HELP.12:56
ins-dragonclawheheh12:56
Skrothehe12:57
AmyRoseI can't live without the /help command very long12:57
AmyRoseand hello, ins-dragonclaw12:57
ins-dragonclaw:)12:58
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AmyRoseI know I'm a traitor for preferring a GTK-based IRC client, but at least I'm NOT using xchat-gnome. Xchat-gnome is the worst IRC client next to Kopete I've ever used ;P12:58
AmyRoseVanilla XChat is better than that stupid GNOME "Take all the options away" version12:59
steveireAmyRose: What's your preffered client?12:59
steveireOh.12:59
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steveireCan skype still be integrated with Kopete?12:59
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ins-dragonclawOo12:59
Armagguedesdoes anyone know if there is a problem with the Feisty Beta CD? i can't boot from it (nor access it). I'm on my 2nd burn01:00
AmyRosesteveire, Vanilla XChat for now.01:00
Admiral_ChicagoArmagguedes: #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions01:00
Armagguedesok sry01:00
Admiral_Chicagonp01:01
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ins-dragonclawkrap01:01
ins-dragonclawit sucks when you find a song that keeps you awake...01:01
ins-dragonclawat 1 in the morning :(01:01
Armagguedeseven for Kubuntu issues/questions Admiral_Chicago ?01:01
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Admiral_ChicagoArmagguedes: yep.01:01
steveireYou used to be able to get your skype contacts through kopete no?01:01
sledgeWhere has linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-13-generic gone to?01:01
ins-dragonclaweven worse - the song forces you to move...01:01
jarnsledge: I heard that it hasn't been made yet.01:02
jarnsledge: Dunno if that's true.01:02
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sledgejarn: Thanks. That confirms my suspicion. :P. BRB, reboot.01:02
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szaloonyhi01:04
Admiral_Chicagohello01:05
szaloonyI need help :)01:05
Admiral_Chicagoask01:05
ins-dragonclawnotice the smile...01:05
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szaloonyI want to change my screen resolution to 800x600 but it's impossible - there's no option01:06
szaloonycan I change it in some file or something like that?01:06
jhutchins!fixres | szaloony01:06
ubotuszaloony: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:06
ins-dragonclawszaloony: why do you want it so low?01:07
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ins-dragonclawKMenu > System Settings > Monitor & Display > Size, Orientation & Positioning01:07
ins-dragonclawmassive slider for resolution01:07
szaloonyI have to01:07
szaloonyI know01:07
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szaloonyok, Ill check the howto01:09
szaloonythanks01:09
ins-dragonclaw!solve-all-my-problems01:10
ins-dragonclaw<ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:10
ins-dragonclawdamn :(01:10
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jhutchinsZambia?  Zaire?01:11
jhutchinsSouth Africa!  Whoda guessed!01:12
eilker!fix adept01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
jhutchinsWhat timezone?GMT + 201:12
eilker!fix adept crash01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix adept crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
ins-dragonclawyep01:12
Arwen!ubotu sucks01:12
ins-dragonclaw!adept01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:13
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:13
jhutchins!adept crash fix01:13
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:13
ins-dragonclaw...01:13
eilkerthanx :)01:13
ins-dragonclawjhutchins: where'd that sudden location revelation come from?01:13
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ins-dragonclaw...01:13
jhutchinsins-dragonclaw: your ISP's domain.01:14
ins-dragonclaw-someone- is poking around in WHOIS :p01:14
jhutchinsYou mentioned a bit back that it was after 01:00 AM.01:14
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ins-dragonclawmhmm01:14
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ins-dragonclawI also mentioned (quite a few times) that i was in South Africa01:14
ins-dragonclaw:)01:14
jhutchinsI probably missed those, I went to the trouble of looking it up.01:15
ins-dragonclawhehe01:15
eilker02:15 here am01:15
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ins-dragonclawwell, thanks for the trouble... lol01:15
jhutchins18:15 CDt here01:15
n6rejboy teens have it hard sometimes.01:15
ins-dragonclawn6rej: ?01:15
n6rejits a wonder I survived it01:15
n6rejlol01:15
jhutchinsWow, my GMT clock is on time, that's unusuall.01:16
Jestre^Amen01:16
n6rejI'm just remembering what it was like going through my teens now01:16
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ins-dragonclawoO01:16
n6rejins-dragonclaw: has the "infighting died down there yet?01:17
n6rejSA is such a distraught nation.01:17
khaije1!bot01:17
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:17
ins-dragonclawinfighting?01:17
ins-dragonclawit's a fullblown civil war01:17
n6rejins-dragonclaw: hasn't that been going on for like decades now?01:17
ins-dragonclawsince 1995 or so01:18
ins-dragonclawso yeah - +- 12 years01:18
ins-dragonclawever since "independence"01:18
n6rejins-dragonclaw: I can't imagine living in the fear.01:18
ins-dragonclawwhat a frigging joke01:18
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ins-dragonclawwhat fear?01:18
ins-dragonclawwe've gotten over the fear01:18
Arwen!drm is not cool01:18
ins-dragonclawwe actually laugh at the crime01:18
n6rejins-dragonclaw: weird.01:18
Arwenlol...01:18
ins-dragonclawwe make fun of murderers and rapists01:18
ins-dragonclawSouth Africa01:18
ins-dragonclawthe rules are different here01:18
ins-dragonclaw(i've said that before)01:19
n6rejins-dragonclaw: obvisously.01:19
ins-dragonclaw:)01:19
ins-dragonclawWe also have one of the strongest Christian movements in the world - and a massive buddhist temple01:19
n6rejins-dragonclaw: I understand though that your country has a strong economny for sail boat building.01:19
ins-dragonclawour supposedly neutral parliament performs animal sacrificices01:19
n6rejins-dragonclaw: yep I know. that part.01:19
ins-dragonclawsacrifices*01:19
n6rejwha?01:19
BluesKajlol01:19
ins-dragonclawthe ZCC01:19
ins-dragonclawnot kidding01:19
ins-dragonclawAncestral worship01:20
ins-dragonclawrampant in the Gov't01:20
n6rejI SWEAR HE's coming sooner then we know.01:20
ins-dragonclawnope01:20
ins-dragonclawthings aren't bad enough yet01:20
khaije1this is an example of one of the toughest things about linux, do i go with mpg321 or mpg123, both are excellent but i only need one...01:20
ins-dragonclawlet aids and the GRM have their run01:20
n6rejkhaije1: lol01:20
khaije1there is not way to find out this type of info w/o testing it myself01:20
BluesKajyeah and we'll have palm tree growing in northern ontario :)01:20
Arwenhey guys, go over to ##windows, it's hilarious01:21
n6rejgrm?01:21
ins-dragonclawgay rights movement01:21
LjL!offtopic01:21
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:21
LjL!o4o01:21
ubotuSome things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.01:21
n6rejLjL: cc01:21
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ins-dragonclaw!life01:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
ins-dragonclawHAHAHA01:22
LjLins-dragonclaw i'm serious01:22
ins-dragonclawok, that was random01:22
ins-dragonclaw"Sorry, I don't know anything about life"01:22
ins-dragonclawXD01:22
BluesKajArwen, I was there , they're entitled to their beliefs ...no point in flaming them :)01:22
n6rejLjL: you've been patient thanks for the warning.01:22
AmyRose!political-debates01:22
ArwenBluesKaj, that guy failed at life :-\01:22
ins-dragonclaw!LjL01:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ljl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
ins-dragonclawhmmmm01:23
ins-dragonclaw;)01:23
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n6rejhey guys, um bot playing is bad juju01:23
AmyRoseROFL!!!!! Typing that gave me this: <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:23
LjLwe know01:23
AmyRoseIt just caught me by surprise01:23
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carutsuscuse me01:24
LjLwe shall try01:25
carutsuis there a way to play windows-shared songs in Amarok or Kaffeine01:25
carutsu?01:25
carutsuLjL xD01:25
Arwencarutsu, define a "windows-shared song"01:25
LjLcarutsu: "shared" you mean with the windows file&folder sharing thing (aka SMB)?01:25
carutsua song that is stored on a windows host and is shared01:25
carutsuLjL that's it01:26
LjLright, shared *how* though01:26
LjL!samba | then01:26
ubotuthen: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:26
carutsuLjL i tried to but amarok just crashes01:26
Arwencarutsu, um, yes, just open it01:26
LjLcarutsu: what did you try exactly?01:26
carutsunope, i can see it but if i play it amarok just crashes01:26
carutsudouble click it01:26
carutsuif i instead copy it i can play it with no worries01:27
LjLcarutsu: double click after mounting it as a samb or double click after just going to the "network" icon?01:27
LjLs/samb/samba share/01:27
carutsujust network icon01:27
ArwenLjL, use smbmount to mount the share first01:27
Arwencarutsu, *01:27
LjLcarutsu: mount it as a samba share01:27
carutsuthat's is01:27
carutsuok01:27
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LjLArwen: smbmount isn't supposed to be used directly, use mount01:27
jhutchinscarutsu: I store my music on a Windows server and play it with amarok.01:27
aaron_ok finally got Quake 3 running good and stable01:28
LjLspecifically, mount //boxname/sharename /media/whatever -o username=whatever01:28
ArwenLjL, oh? well, it works, so :-\01:28
jhutchinscarutsu: It's mostly mp3.01:28
Arwenaaron_, yay?01:28
LjL(if a username is needed)01:28
carutsuso what should i do mount or smbmount01:28
aaron_so now I got a new problem01:28
Arwenaaron_, btw, Quake 4 ftw01:28
LjLand if that gives problems, use mount -t cifs /blablah01:28
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aaron_sorry01:28
aaron_its the mouse01:28
aaron_it has a long delay time01:28
aaron_and it acts wierd01:28
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jhutchinscarutsu: I use regular mount with smbfs and define the mountpoints and credential files in fstab.01:28
LjLcarutsu: see above01:28
aaron_I like Quake III but yeah01:28
carutsulet me try01:29
LjLcarutsu: what jhutchins says is certainly the way to have it conveniently mounted at every boot01:29
LjLbut i think it *is* all described by !samba01:29
aaron_any mouse drivers that I need to install or something01:29
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BluesKajwell, i dumped mplayer in favour of the gxine plugin ...works well on sites using windows media :)01:29
jhutchinshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently01:29
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aaron_because this mouse driver really doesnt work well at all01:29
LjLaaron_: what ubuntu version?01:29
aaron_6.1001:29
LjLnot feisty, right?01:29
aaron_its edgy01:30
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: You may also want to look at VLC, it handles a lot of formats and has some interesting features like streaming.01:30
aaron_because the mouse acts really wierd in quake 301:30
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LjLok, i asked because i've had reports of mouse responsiveness problems in feisty01:30
aaron_ah01:30
jhutchinsaaron_: Did you resolve an issue with gpm already?01:30
aaron_gpm?01:30
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jhutchinsaaron_: Console mouse daemon.01:31
jhutchinsaaron_: ps ax | grep gpm01:31
LjLwhat issue?01:31
jhutchinsI saw someone mention gpm earlier, possibly in a different channel, thoguht it might have been aaron.01:31
aaron_ok it says 4716 pts/101:31
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aaron_no wasnt me01:32
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aaron_but what does that mean01:32
aaron_I just want it to work01:32
aaron_without slowdown01:32
LjLdon't we all01:32
jhutchinsAh, crackhead_25 at 22:48gmt01:32
aaron_JUST WORK AHHHHH01:32
aaron_lol01:32
jhutchinsaaron_: Try this: sudo /etc/init.d/gpm stop, then see if that fixes the mouse problem.01:33
crackhead_25hey hows it goin01:33
crackhead_25someone say my name?01:33
aaron_it says command not found01:33
FuzzyTheBearjust a note : i never used kubuntu before , took the new 7.04 cd .. popped it in .. it booted fine , had an install button .. pressed it .. the system got installed .. i rebooted , sound , video , all hardware , network etc was working , even detected there was a windows hd and proposed to boot it in the grub list . i got only one thing to say : congratulations to all the development / testing team .. this is one hell of a01:33
FuzzyTheBear release. thank you01:33
FuzzyTheBearthis is  a fantastic release.01:34
FuzzyTheBearGood night all01:34
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carutsui tried to mount as: "sudo mount //a/pcname/ /home/user/Desktop/Shared"01:35
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carutsuwhat did i miss?01:35
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LjLcarutsu: assuming the mountpoint really exists and the pc name and sharename are right... nothing01:36
LjLwhat's the error message though?01:36
jhutchinsaaron_: Then try sudo killall gpm01:36
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carutsuincorrect file system01:36
carutsuLjL: code page is missing01:37
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jhutchinscarutsu: sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share /wherever01:37
aaron_it says no process killed01:37
prophetim having a little issue with my LCD can someone give me a hand?01:37
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jhutchinsaaron_: That ps ax result was probably the grep command then, and gpm isn't running.  Sorry, nevermind, gonna have to keep looking.01:37
FragUPlentyok01:38
FragUPlentyok01:38
FragUPlentythanks01:38
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BluesKajjhutchins, VLC didn't work very well previously ,it blocked the mplayer plugin ... didnt have xine plugin at the time.01:40
ArwenBluesKaj, did the VLC plugin even work for you? for me, it just always says "NO VIDEO, JOO FAILZ"01:40
Kermitanyone know how to reinstall a D-Link G650 PC card in Feisty?01:41
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BluesKajArwen, no VLC plugin did not work01:41
Arwenyeah, same here01:41
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Kermitsorry ment to say D-Link GWL-G65001:42
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FragUPlentyso wait is it possible that it is the program01:43
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Arwen!grip01:43
ubotugrip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number01:43
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carutsui just can't mount it, i ever tried to "mount -t smbfs //work.group/server/folder /wherever"01:44
Arwenis there a kde CD ripper?01:44
FragUPlentyok I am installing warsow to see if it is actually the program01:44
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c0nv1ctcarutsu: try using IPs instead of netbios names01:44
c0nv1ctcarutsu: see if it works01:44
LjLcarutsu, if there's a codepage-related error, and you're not using english windows, then perhaps you just need to install some codepages-related package, though i don't know where to look about there01:45
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Ashfire908hi01:46
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carutsumm, that's wierd01:46
carutsu*weird01:46
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DM|I use gnome normally, can anyone help me get my icons back to a normal size , heres a screenshot of settings / problem http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotbh0.png01:48
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NightBirdDM|: uh... have you tried changing the size?01:49
jhutchinscarutsu: Ok, did you read the !samba howto?  Can you see the share if you browse to it?01:50
DM|aye01:50
DM|its either really small, or overlaping the text01:50
jhutchinscarutsu: You may have to join the windows network, you at least have to set it up to be in the same workgroup.01:50
NightBirdwhen you've selected the Toolbar section?01:50
carutsujhutchins yes if i open in konqueror smb://server i can browse01:50
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DM|nightbird im talking about the icons in the file manager section01:50
jhutchinscarutsu: You would probably need to supply either a credential file with the username and password, or supply them with the mount command or in fstab.01:50
FragUPlentyok so the problem seems to be the mouse is synced to the framerate01:50
FragUPlentyso if the framerate goes down then the mouse stops working right01:51
NightBirdDM|: hm... dunno01:51
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jhutchinscarutsu: Did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently ?01:51
DM|Nightbird i dont like KDE for this reason, too many lost options01:51
Arwenwow, acidrip is sweet!01:51
carutsujhutchins i'm on my way01:51
carutsujhutchins i also cant acces shared printers01:52
ArwenDM|, better than GNOME, which has 0 options :-\01:52
NightBirdDM|: have you tried asking in #kde?01:52
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jhutchinscarutsu: Ok, some printers are wierd, but you should be able to get it.  Samba's had this worked out for a long time.01:52
DM|Arwen nah, i love gnome. has the options i need and has tons of options, all in places that make sense01:53
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carutsuDMJ i dont want to start a fight but is no so customizable..01:53
DM|too bad i just cant speak01:53
crackhead_25anyone have ideas about the following problem: when i restart my xserver, my mouse pointer seems to become invisible. the mouse still works, if i can guess where the pointer is, but i can't see the pointer. someone mentioned possibly a conflict with xserver and gpm (mouse drivers). if so, how do i remove or disable gpm from ever starting or fix the problem otherwise??01:53
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jhutchinsDM|: What happens when you check "Double Sized Pixels"?01:54
DM|carutsu i just asked a question, that no one was able to answer about KDE so...01:54
DM|jhutchins lemme take a SS01:54
jhutchins(make sure to "Apply" and refresh)01:55
DM|i did01:55
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DM|jhutchins its weird http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/284/screenshot1cm8.png01:55
carutsujhutchins somehow i hadn't smbfs!! that's weird!!01:55
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DM|its like its not loading the right size icons and labeling it wrong01:55
DM|when i change themes the same thing happens01:56
crackhead_25anyone know about my mouse question??01:56
DM|whats the question01:57
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jhutchinsDM|:  Ok, that's about the same size as min are in relation to the text in the title bars.  Yes, I see the wierd text.01:57
DM|musta missed it sorry01:57
DM|jhutchins any suggestions ?01:57
jhutchinsDM|: Try messing with the konq settings instead of system settings.01:57
neoncodeIs there a Higher risk of data corruption on XFS compared to ext3?01:58
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jhutchinscrackhead_25: You should be able to stop gpm with sudo /etc/init.d/gpm stop or sudo killall gpm01:58
carutsujhutchins it worked as a charm01:58
carutsujhutchins any ideas about printer sharing?01:59
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jarnIs it just me or does he QT logo look a lot like the Soviet Hammer and Sickle?01:59
crackhead_25..but i think gpm only runs when i switch between xserver sessions or something? what if gpm doesnt work in fixing the problem? any ideas what may be causing it??02:00
carutsujhutchins although i get weird icons for the  characters, o well i can live with that02:00
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jhutchinscrackhead_25: Nope.02:01
prophetthere is no   menu bars in Konqueror02:01
prophethow do you get those back?02:01
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jhutchinscarutsu: That woudl be your character set, you can actually select that in the mount command, but I don't know much about it.02:01
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Starsomeone gril to  talk with me?02:02
carutsujhutchins i'll look for it, thank you02:02
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DM|jhutchins cant find anything02:02
jhutchinsOoh, grill, got to check the barbecue!02:02
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DM|jhutchins HAHA found it !02:04
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DM|view>iconsize>large, was set to tiny02:04
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lorderunionhi. i'm having trouble connecting my nomad jukebox3 to amarok. it, however, runs perfectly (out of the box) with gnomad202:08
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easytigerlorderunion: using latest amarok?02:10
lorderunionyes.02:10
lorderunionand 6.10 kubuntu02:10
easytigernever used a nomad so i cant really suggest much02:11
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eilker!cloak02:11
ubotuTor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks02:11
greghi02:12
lorderunionwell. i plugged in a usb thumb drive a few hours ago and amarok prompted me with a dialog box asking if it was a media device. i plugged in the nomad in, and i didnt get any dialog.02:12
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gregI did that kinda system update thing on kubuntu 6.10, and the box will no longer reboot.  I get kubuntu screen, then blackness.02:12
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Compleja!es02:14
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:14
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lorderunionah heh. i went to configure amarok, and add media devices02:16
lorderunionthat worked.02:16
lorderunionweird.02:16
lorderunionthanks for the help anyway easytiger02:16
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easytigerlol.02:17
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n6rejbrb gonna try to reboot!02:19
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soulridergood luck02:19
n6rejthanks02:19
wendyi need help02:19
soulriderjust ask wendy02:22
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soulridercool, it worked :)02:22
N6REJyeah, even auto registered my nic!02:22
wendyi need install msn in kubuntu.you know?02:23
soulrideri just convinces someone to try kubuntu out :P02:23
soulriderwendy: you cant ahve msn, but you can have some programs to connect to msn02:23
soulridertry kopete, you can talk to your msn contatcs02:23
N6REJor gaim02:23
soulriderwendy: theres also a programt hat looks just like MSN called aMSN02:23
N6REJgaim will let you talk to all of them02:23
carutsuKopete, Gaim, aMSN02:23
N6REJanyone know amarok well?02:24
wendyok thanks02:24
carutsuor even Monkey MSN02:24
carutsuis integrated with GTk02:24
Daisuke_IdoN6REJ: what do you want to know about it?02:24
soulriderwendy: are you familiar with installing programs on ubuntu?02:25
Daisuke_Idoother than it's the app that made me dump windows for good :)02:25
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soulridertheres a small guide you can read that will teach you lots!02:25
N6REJI can't get it to detect my dvd drive.  I tried using kdemedia creator to rip but if it went any slower it would be next mellinia before it was done!02:25
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N6REJ3 hours to do 15 songs02:25
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Daisuke_Idohmm02:25
Daisuke_Idoi've never done cd ripping with amarok :(02:25
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N6REJI can't even play cd's with amarok02:25
BluesKajaMSN works well...I'm not big on IM but I have used it recently without any problems02:26
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N6REJno media devices found02:26
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N6REJits plays created mp3's nicely02:27
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N6REJok, now this is weird... it found the cd and started to play but then stopped02:29
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N6REJI've lost my sound apparently02:30
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wendyi need download music in kubuntu.how?02:31
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N6REJwendy: from where?02:32
soulriderwendy: try frostwire02:32
wendykubuntu system02:32
BluesKajwendy, ktorrent02:32
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soulriderwendy: sos de uruguay? =/02:33
N6REJok, something is totally haywire, sound is gone02:33
wendyno de mexico02:33
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ubotuwendy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:33
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wendygracias(thanks)02:34
N6REJwendy: tell me sometimes how they make those cool balloons02:34
soulriderN6REJ: i don think wendyis too fluent in english =/02:35
N6REJsi habla de espanol mui poquito02:35
N6REJand I bet I said that poorly02:35
soulrideruhm, yeah :P02:35
N6REJheheeh02:35
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N6REJI can say it better then I can type it.02:35
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N6REJin little tijuana they make this weird baloons that are completely an orb with a open center.  No visible means of connectivity02:36
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N6REJI saw them when we had "mui qualante chocalte'" and I KNOW I spelled that wrong.02:37
N6REJin a "dennys"02:37
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Betzeferany 1 needs help ?02:38
N6REJremember when we were talking about differences, hot chocalate ain't hot chocolate LOL02:38
N6REJhey betz02:38
N6REJyou bored02:38
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N6REJwhat controls the sound in kde?02:39
N6REJalsa?02:39
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FragUPlentystill frustrated that I cant get the mouse problem figured out02:40
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FragUPlentyhas anyone else had this problem02:40
FragUPlentywhere like the mouse syncs to the framerate02:40
FragUPlentyand the mouse undergows like massive slowdown02:40
N6REJoh I read about that.02:41
philfonew to ubuntu and having a few issues I'd like some advice with02:41
N6REJgo read launchpad frag02:41
FragUPlentyits kinda wierd but I would really like to figure it out so that I can use this pc for lan partys02:41
BetzeferN6REJ : do sudo alsamixer in terminal02:41
N6REJI'm sure I saw a blurb about that.02:41
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FragUPlentywhat do you mean launchpad02:41
N6REJ!launchpad | FragUPlenty02:42
ubotuFragUPlenty: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/02:42
Betzeferphilfo : just ask man ull get an answer02:42
N6REJBetzefer: now what?02:42
Betzefergave the pass ?02:42
N6REJyep02:42
N6REJsound has worked, it just suddently stopped02:42
Betzeferok02:42
Betzeferyou got a cool window with02:43
philfothanks. so I am a recent convert from win xp and want to run GIMPshop02:43
Betzeferbars02:43
N6REJyep02:43
BluesKajMplayer still won't launch ...I've tried following the directions setting -vo+X11 to the config file etc etc ...nothing works  :(02:43
FragUPlentyok I got it and bookmarked it is the solution to my mouse problem here02:43
Betzeferstart playing with it with coursers02:43
N6REJI don't know for sure frag, just seems I remember reading about it.02:43
BluesKajMplayer launches but won't play02:43
N6REJsound can be soooo touchy02:43
Betzeferya02:43
Betzeferyoure right02:44
N6REJamarok is what tweaked it.02:44
Betzeferya02:44
Betzeferhave u tried beep media ?02:44
Betzeferits really cool02:44
Betzeferand fun02:44
N6REJwhats interesting is I was ripping with kdecreator and it was goig slower then heck and so I stopped it and now no sound.02:44
Betzeferits just like winamp02:44
N6REJcool02:44
philfoso, in a nutshell, how can I manually get the program to run?02:45
FragUPlentyok thanks02:45
Betzefertry it out02:45
BluesKajsometimes it's so frustrating ,it makes me wanna take a break and run windows for a while :)02:45
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N6REJphilfo: like what?02:45
Betzeferwhich ?02:45
philfogimpshop02:45
Betzeferlol02:45
Betzeferdont give up02:45
N6REJphilfo: have you installed it?02:45
Betzeferhave u read the readme doc ?02:45
N6REJBetzefer: nah02:45
BluesKajwell, no one seems to know any fixes02:45
philfois the problem that gimpshop is slightly older than gimp?02:45
philfoyup02:45
N6REJphilfo: does it have a gui?02:46
BluesKajread so many , I'm sick of reading about it02:46
N6REJlol hear ya BluesKaj02:46
BetzeferN6REJ : which irc prog do u use ?02:46
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philfoi'm new to the LINUX OS aside from what I used in the navy years ago02:46
N6REJKonversation02:46
Betzeferu to ?02:46
Betzeferi hate it !02:46
Betzeferlol02:46
BluesKajhehe02:46
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philfogimpshop a gui?02:46
BluesKajKvirc!02:46
N6REJkvirc?02:47
N6REJwhats so special about it?02:47
BluesKajsupposed to be good02:47
philfoyeah, but I can't find a file to execute it.02:47
FragUPlentyso the mouse setting are in xorg.conf02:47
BluesKajhas serverlists02:47
FragUPlentyok so I need to edit something in that right02:47
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N6REJphilfo: sudo updatedb | locate gimpshop02:47
philfothanks.02:47
BluesKajbrb , gonna try kvirc02:47
N6REJyw02:47
Betzeferis it any good ?02:48
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N6REJbeats me.02:48
N6REJBetzefer: so what do I do with this gtk app?02:48
intelikeyN6REJ alternately and much faster    dpkg -L gimpshop | grep bin/02:48
N6REJAH!02:49
N6REJdpkg locate gimpshop binary02:49
N6REJI'll have to try to remember that.02:49
FragUPlentyok under protocol it says explorer ps/202:49
FragUPlentyso should I change that to a better protocol02:49
FragUPlentyor keep that02:49
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intelikeydpkg -L package_name  lists all the files installed from package_name02:49
philfoand what after that?02:50
N6REJdid you find it?02:50
N6REJthe bin that is?02:51
philfo"dpkg -L gimpshop | grep bin/"  worked to find the files02:51
philfoyes02:51
N6REJrun the bin02:51
FragUPlentybecause it is actually a usb mouse02:51
FragUPlentyafter that it says "device" "/dev/input/mice"02:51
intelikeyfiles & dirs    so  dpkg -L bash | grep .gz   is an example test. to find gipped docs that came with bash02:51
N6REJintelikey: how can I restart sound?02:52
philfowhat is that command?02:52
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intelikeylocate also works.  as does  'find'.02:52
philforun /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.2   ??02:52
intelikeyN6REJ give me just a second on that.02:52
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N6REJk02:52
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Betzeferwhat does this prog do ?02:53
daphrak07Is anyone useing 7.04 and is Beryl easy to setup in it?02:53
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N6REJ!beryl02:54
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:54
Betzeferphilfo02:54
Betzeferwhat does this prog do ?02:54
daphrak07join #ubuntu-effects02:54
philfosorry there.  it's an image manipulation program.  like photoshop02:54
Betzeferohhhhh02:55
Betzefercool02:55
philfoGIMP is the original version.02:55
Betzeferwhy did u switch 2 linux02:55
philfoGIMPshop is the hacked version that mirrors the GUI of photoshop02:55
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N6REJgimpshop mirrors photoshop? *PERK*02:55
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philfobecause I was sick of windows.  it's been a long uninstall/reinstall the OS 8 months02:56
intelikeyN6REJ if you mean arts.  it's in kmenu > system settings > sound     if you mean a total reset of alsa   >>>>  kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) && sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sync && reboot -f02:56
philfono, it doesn't mirror ps, but it's a lot closer to what I'm used to02:56
N6REJphilfo: stick around want to talk to you about that02:56
N6REJintelikey: test sound failed.02:57
N6REJso I'll have to kill and restart02:57
philfosure02:57
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intelikeyrestart soubd server ?02:57
SubOneIt seems the easiest way for me to get host names working is to set both my computers to static IP and edit the hosts file for each. My question is: If I use a static IP on here will it stay static for all access points or will it allow me to configure DHCP on the WAP at work?02:57
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intelikeyN6REJ there is a fairly desent wiki02:58
intelikey!sound02:58
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:58
N6REJlet me reboot cause it was working02:58
N6REJbrb02:58
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Betzefersay02:59
Betzeferguys02:59
FragUPlentyso can some tell me if I can run all those cool opengl stuff on my desktop02:59
Betzeferhow kde4 ?02:59
intelikey"<N6REJ> let me reboot cause it was working" <<< old bad habits die hard.02:59
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FragUPlentyIve got a 1ghz p3, 512mb RAM, and radeon 925003:00
_Iwonder_why people reboot linux?03:00
leafwthe ubuntu launchpad website does NOT accept any more bugs03:00
Betzeferbeacsue system falls03:00
leafwis that perfect, or the servers are screwed?03:00
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N6REJok, that fixed it.03:01
intelikeyBetzefer  extreemly few times have i seen that03:01
N6REJwierd03:01
_Iwonder_system fails or app on system fails?03:01
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_Iwonder_seldom have seen linux come to a point of needing reboot03:01
N6REJI know03:02
N6REJvery strange03:02
_Iwonder_beauty of modular os03:02
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intelikey_Iwonder_  yes sir yes sir three bags full03:02
_Iwonder_sorry03:02
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philfoN6REJ, what was it you wanted to say about GIMP and PS?03:02
N6REJok.. sound does play.. now to get amarok to play it!03:02
N6REJoh, the ONLY thing holding me to  windblows is that I'm VERY used to ps.  I don't know how I can live without it.  I'm doing swish and ps alot right now.03:03
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N6REJbut i'd really like to.03:03
philfogotcha.03:03
N6REJI'd appreciate your comments.03:04
enoteedo i have to run server edition run apache?03:04
N6REJI'm not a ps expert03:04
N6REJenotee: no03:04
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philfoWindows MADE me switch because I've had too many problems with it in combination with Symantec software03:04
N6REJenotee: why do you need apache>?03:04
enoteedo i have to run server edition run mythtv03:04
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N6REJphilfo: I got hijacked pretty bad the other day, is why I'm switching.03:04
N6REJdon't know about that one but I doubt it.03:05
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philfosecurity issues?  me too.  I actually got this loaded today.03:05
intelikeyenotee short answer   no03:05
enoteetry setting up a personal web server03:05
N6REJphilfo: yeah, somehow they bypassed my router and got straight to my pc which was nat'd.03:05
N6REJlight-httpd?03:06
philfoouch.03:06
philfoI'm also sick of paying for software that doesn't really help out too much (symantec)03:06
N6REJlost 10yrs of work and all my .psds03:06
philfooh goodness.03:06
philfohave you tried gimpshop?03:07
Betzeferya youre right03:07
N6REJno not yet03:07
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philfothe drop-down menus are MUCH better than the gimp03:07
N6REJsorry, was holding the plate with one hand, using the fork with the other and trying to type too!03:07
N6REJis it as powerful as gimp?  I've only looked at gimp once.03:08
philfogimpshop:    http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=29403:08
philfoit is gimp, but has been modified for those of us used to using the functions and GUI of PS03:08
N6REJOIC03:08
N6REJwhat would I be giving up using that vs ps?03:09
philfoi started using it in windows last week as I was compiling together everything for my move03:09
philfo16bit03:09
N6REJnever use 16bit LOL03:09
N6REJleast not knowingly03:09
N6REJfilters?03:09
philfoyeah, I DID & now I'm paying for it03:09
philfofilters are the same.03:09
N6REJyour kidding!03:09
philfoI mean almost everything is identical.03:10
N6REJps filters work?03:10
philfothey are gimp filters that have been hacked to work just like the ps filters03:10
N6REJimage ready?03:10
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philfoit's not the whole suite.03:10
N6REJDARN!03:11
intelikeyphilfo i know no one else is active in here atm.  but should that change you might want to move your disscussion to #kubuntu-offtopic  or pm    k03:11
N6REJI wish adobe would hurryup03:11
N6REJintelikey: cc03:11
philfook.  no problem intelikey03:11
N6REJif we could get ps to K we'd rule the planet03:11
airmonOne other lurker - having sound problems with Amarok and Kaffein03:11
philfoexactly03:11
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N6REJthere'd be two os's OSX and K and that would be it :P03:12
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philfohe he he03:12
philfook, here's my problem, I can't run gimpshop yet.03:12
N6REJstill03:12
N6REJok, let me see what I can figure out.03:12
N6REJhangon one03:13
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philfothanks03:13
N6REJnp, searching adept right now03:13
philfothe bin command just brings me to the standard gimp installation03:13
intelikeyairmon  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok  might have a lead on your issue   i don't know for sure.03:13
N6REJweird.03:13
N6REJintelikey: amarok is what killed my sound03:14
hijjtI have been working at getting a feisty upgrade going for about 2 days and I am having trouble getting x to start... I have a radeon mobility 9600 and it is a fresh install of feisty at this point03:14
airmonThanks for the link. I'll check it out. I've got system sounds, just can't play mp3's.03:14
philfohere's my thought: GIMP is 2.2.13 and gimpshop is 2.2.1103:14
intelikeyN6REJ  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok  might have a lead on your issue   i don't know for sure.03:14
philfocould the system just be defaulting to the newest version?03:14
intelikey!mp3 | airmon03:14
ubotuairmon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:14
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N6REJI met Ray Boltz and this song brought me to my knees03:16
airmonyeah, I can check if my oogs work, but all my podcasts come down in .mp3.03:16
intelikeyphilfo could be an "alternatives" thang.   man update-alternatives for details03:16
philfo??03:16
intelikey<philfo> here's my thought: GIMP is 2.2.13 and gimpshop is 2.2.11 <<<  that ^03:17
philfogot it.03:17
airmonI've also  tried songbird, but that doesn't play either.03:17
airmonhelp.ubuntu.com isn't responding for me.03:17
hijjtairmon: are you using feisty?03:18
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airmonyes.03:18
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LeeJunFanairmon: launchpad is down too.03:18
hijjtairmon, did you try libxine1-plugins03:18
philfointelikely: now I have started the man update-alternatives script, what next?03:18
airmonI've had the same problem with edgy.03:18
hijjtairmon, I had that problem earlier today, make sure you enable universe and multiverse and reinstall libxine and it's plugins and you should be able to get it03:19
intelikey"man update-alternatives"     not a script.     man man   in a konsole03:20
airmonOK, let me try that. Thanks.03:20
N6REJhere might be a clue... whats a "ubuntu parralles install"?03:20
philforight, sorry.03:20
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N6REJphilfo: did you install the pre-requisites?03:22
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philfoprerequisites?03:23
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N6REJyep!03:23
philfonope03:23
N6REJhttp://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/03:23
martalliN6REJ: Could a "ubuntu parralles install" actually mean an nistall on parrallels on an imac?03:23
N6REJheheeh shame on you03:23
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N6REJhopefully03:23
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BluesKajKvirc sucks :) ... russian eye candy mirc wannabe03:23
N6REJrotflmbo03:23
N6REJi'm comfy, just miss smilies03:24
martalliBluesKaj: I think I agree.  I have been using it today an someone's recommendation...I think I want to go back to chat - seems like a cleaner interface to me =)03:24
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BluesKajsmilies are fat ugly girls who need attn :)03:24
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martalliI like my smilies in ASCII03:25
BluesKajhehe03:25
philfook, I'm getting elbows deep into this, back in a while.03:25
jarnI'm trying to resize my external harddrive (which is formatted as ntfs) but gparted will only let me resize it to one size.03:25
martalliwoops - above I meant that I want to go back to xchat03:25
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BluesKaji just wish some one would write a serverlist option for konversation03:26
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makuseruis there anything i need to install for MIDI support?03:26
N6REJlol03:26
martalliintelikey - it is like the wisdom of a thousand monkeys (at least on my part =)03:27
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BluesKajwith a serverlist option download even , then Konverstaion would be complete IMO03:27
intelikeymakuseru  kmid  ?03:27
intelikeyplaymidi - MIDI player03:27
intelikeypmidi - A command line midi player for ALSA03:27
intelikeyhow do you want it makuseru ?03:28
BluesKajxchat's graphics are terrible on my pc03:28
BluesKajmonitor03:28
makuseruim trying to get KGuitar to work, and it needs midi support03:28
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N6REJstuipd kon dissapeared LOL03:28
intelikeyle' me look...03:28
Armagguedescan i make a regular install with the alternate cd?03:28
makuserualright, thanks intelikey03:29
martallilol - did my last message actually say "action"?03:29
N6REJphilfo: do you know about cpan?03:29
philfonope03:30
MuJArmagguedes: yes03:30
N6REJok, have you installed "build-essential"03:30
philfojust started with cpan03:30
N6REJk03:30
N6REJthe first like 30 questions just let it do what it needs03:30
Armagguedesok tks03:30
philfogoing through the list of prereqs03:30
intelikeymakuseru looks to me like just having both kguitar and kmid  should enable that...03:30
MuJArmagguedes: it just has the old text based installer ;)03:31
N6REJyeah, I installed build-essential first just to cover the basics.03:31
airmonhijjt - Thanks lots. Amarok and kaffeine now work. songbird still no...03:31
intelikeymakuseru if that's not working for you,  run  kguitar  in a konsole and test then it should burp out error messages that we can work with.03:33
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N6REJphilfo: we got a problem.  atk is only version 1.0 in repos03:33
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makuseruintelikey: SE3: Alsa scheduler error. Couldn't open sequencer03:34
throllzanyone know what's a good format to keep a library off DVD on the PC? I don't think AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS make a lotta sense03:34
intelikeymakuseru ok... give me a sec.03:34
philfowhat was that N6REJ?03:35
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BluesKajthrollz how about .ISO03:36
philfoI have a problem with the glib, there's a file missing on the server03:36
throllzBluesKaj: are you for real? how on earth to i play that?03:36
N6REJatk is supposed to be greater then 1.0.1 but we have 1.003:36
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hijjtairmon, songbird uses something different03:36
throllz*do03:36
N6REJfyi xml::parser is a package03:36
hijjtairmon, it may use gstreamer03:36
N6REJphilfo: sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl03:37
N6REJ:D03:37
SubOneDoes anyone know how I can setup my wireless to connect to a specific SSID WAP with a static IP and all others with DHCP?03:37
hijjtairmon, although i haven't used anything but amarok for ages03:37
airmonI think you're right, as I read through the docs...03:37
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throllzBluesKaj:  I though it would have to be something like mpeg, wma, avi or something like that03:37
BluesKajthrollz, I thought you meant store for burning03:37
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makuseruintelikey: alright03:38
intelikeymuse - Qt-based midi/audio sequencer03:38
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throllzBluesKaj: whatever ir the best03:38
N6REJphil do yo uhave multiverse active?03:38
N6REJglib is there.03:38
intelikeypatchage - modular patch bay for Jack audio and Alsa Midi03:38
BluesKajthrollz, use tovid to rip to dvd mpg03:38
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throllzBluesKaj: I mean DVD aren't forever03:38
yurimxpxmanI read that konqueror can be setup so it displays the contents of CDs as audio files instead of tracks so you can copy and paste to rip them. Do any of you know how to do that?03:38
throllzBluesKaj: digital storege is forever03:38
philfon6rej: multiverse active, no03:39
martalliSubOne: I think that KNetworkmanager will do that for you - you can create separate entries for each SSID03:39
N6REJphilfo: but its old too :(03:39
N6REJphilfo: activate it03:39
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N6REJboth in source and backports03:39
N6REJ4 places03:39
BluesKajyeah, or you could use acidrip03:39
jarnI'm trying to resize my external harddrive (which is formatted as ntfs) but gparted will only let me resize it to one size, the amount of space I have taken up.03:39
SubOnemartalli: ok thank you I don't have access to the other WAP right now so i couldnt test it03:39
martalliSubOne: In my case, I have been using mepis 6.5 and kubuntu 7.0403:40
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airmonI'll work with Amarok for now, and fiddle with songbird later. I can play my music, that's the big thing I was trying to solve.03:40
airmonThanks.03:40
throllzo_O 21:41 < BluesKaj> throllz, use tovid to rip to dvd mpg03:40
martalliSubOne: If you are using edgy or easrlier, I am not sure it works the same (edgy didn't work with my laptop's wireless)03:40
throllz21:41 < BluesKaj> throllz, use tovid to rip to dvd mpg03:40
throllz21:41 < BluesKaj> throllz, use tovid to rip to dvd mpg03:40
throllz21:41 < BluesKaj> throllz, use tovid to rip to dvd mpg03:40
philfowould that go: sudo apt-get install multiverse active  ??03:41
throllzBluesKaj: TOVID is the program?03:41
martallithrollz: What's the difference between tovid and dvd::rip or acidrip?03:41
SubOneThis one might be a question better suited for the firefox channel, but: Do you know how to get all the contents of the address bar and search bar to auto highlight when I click it (or tab).03:41
martalliSubOne: type ctrl-k03:41
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N6REJphilfo: no, sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources/sources.list and then add multiverse where you see "universe" at the end.03:41
martalliI wish there was a key code for that in konq03:41
throllzmartalli: no clue, this is my first time. Trying to make sense of this. Which one got a hot GUI?03:41
N6REJphilfo: also make sure they are not # out.03:42
BluesKajthrollz , yes TOVID it is the program03:42
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SubOnemartalli: Can I get it to do that on click somehow because on windows if you click the bar it hilites everything03:42
philfoyikes, i'm behind03:42
throllzlet me chck it ouy03:42
BluesKaj!tovid | throllz03:42
martallictrl-k will highlight the whole search bar03:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:42
SubOnenvm, #firefox gave me the answer ty03:42
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martalliTovid: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page03:43
BluesKajthrollz , try the #tovid chat03:43
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throllzBluesKaj: thanks a lot :-)03:43
philfocommand not found03:43
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Carutsuscuse me some time ago you told me how to mount a smb shared partition but i cannot write to i\t03:44
Carutsuhow can i write to ir?03:44
Carutsujhutchins can you tell me?03:44
philfonevermind, my bad03:44
Carutsuanyone?03:45
andrew__Does anyone know of a good dvd burning program for files?03:45
Carutsuk3b?03:45
Carutsu!k3b03:45
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto03:45
andrew__graphical will be nice03:45
andrew__thank you03:45
martalliCarutsu: That can't possibly be right - SMB partitions should be writeable (if the server allows it)03:45
N6REJphilfo: hang on, there's a bunch of changes.. update your system, then I'll get back to you.03:45
Carutsuno problem03:45
Carutsumartalli i mounted it...03:45
philfoupdate my system?03:45
N6REJphilfo: you make those changes?03:46
SubOneWhere can I find the global key mappings, I forgot where i went and cant find them :p03:46
martallimaybe...you don't have write priviledges on the server03:46
philfoI haven't changed anything yet.03:46
philfowhat is it I'm changing?03:46
N6REJchange the sources lists.03:46
N6REJso that multiverse is in there.03:46
N6REJthen run sudo apt-get update | apt-get upgrade | apt-get dist-upgrade03:47
N6REJthat will get you current03:47
philfowow.03:47
N6REJphilfo: thats one long command03:47
N6REJjust c/p03:47
intelikeyN6REJ that wont do much03:48
martalliAre you sure that the '|' shouldnb't be '&&'?03:48
N6REJintelikey: ?03:48
N6REJ&&?03:48
intelikeyN6REJ the sudo is only affecting the first command...03:48
Carutsuhow do i gain su privilages without restarting konqueror?03:48
the-ermAnyone here have any experience mounting a SCSI drive?  I looked at the /etc/fstab and there is a UUID.  I was wondering how/where you get the uuid.   Or can you just make one up?03:48
N6REJoh DUH!03:48
N6REJmy bad03:48
martalliI thnk "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get"03:48
philfokonsole is at the /etc/apt/sources/sources.list  now.03:49
Carutsuhow do i gain su privilages without restarting konqueror?03:49
martalliWouldn't "sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" be enough?03:49
intelikeykonqueror as root.... tisk tisk...03:49
N6REJok, add the "multiverse" to the end of each line that ends in universe and be sure that the beginning of those lines do not have # in front of them.03:49
philfoempty looking konsole with some commands at the bottom.03:49
philfothere are no lines is the problem.03:50
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N6REJmartalli: I honestly don't know03:50
Carutsuintelikey i think i had readed sp,ething about it03:50
N6REJwoooh hang on phil03:50
philfono worries, thanks for your patience03:50
philfowith me03:50
intelikeymartalli again like N6REJ your string will only work up to &&   the sudo will drop out and the dist-upgrade can't run as user03:50
N6REJexit03:50
N6REJmy bad03:50
philfodone.03:50
N6REJsudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list03:50
philfokonsole is closed.03:50
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N6REJyou went too far LOL03:51
philfouh oh03:51
N6REJits ok03:51
N6REJdon't worry this is *nix not windblows03:51
philfothis is what I get for not knowing any language.03:51
philforight03:51
makuseruIntelikey: any info on what i can do?03:51
N6REJjust don't type sudo rm -rf /etc and your good to go!03:51
makuseruIntelikey: oh i didnt see where you said what to download03:52
intelikeymakuseru googling was unproductive on your particular issue.   still looking.03:52
martalliOne rule of thumb,: DON'T "sudo rm..." anything uinless you really think you know what you are doing03:52
N6REJintelikey: you the command I miss the most is "push" and "pop"03:52
N6REJmartalli: amen!  I forgot I was in /etc/ one time and meant to delete something in /home/user and said rm -rf ./03:53
N6REJ*nix don't reboot well without /etc :P03:54
Carutsujust for the record i had to open the SMB mounted directory as root and then i was able to modify its content03:54
intelikeyN6REJ konsole    echo "`help push` `help pop`" | less        why miss them03:54
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martalliCarutsu: Did you mount it as root locally, or by using the root account of the server?03:54
Carutsulocally as root03:54
thumperI installed beryl on kubuntu feisty, and now I have borderless windows, and no title bars03:54
Carutsumartialli its a windows system btw03:55
thumperwhat am I missing?03:55
martalliHmm...I would really like to leanr more about running a smb server for my office03:55
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Carutsuthumper that happened to me once it had crashed, restart it03:55
N6REJintelikey: no, push was a command that would store your wd and then no matter where you went when you were ready to get back to it you simply typed "pop" and poof you were back03:55
martallithumper: one sec and I will tell you what to do - are you using nvidia?  Same thing happened to me03:55
thumpermartalli: yes03:56
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thumperI also installed beryl-kubuntu and aquamarine03:56
martallithumper: You need to type this into konsole: "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite"03:56
thumperon top of the basic beryl03:56
thumperand restart X I guess03:57
martallithumper: Comes from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BerylOnFeisty?highlight=%28beryl%2903:57
makuseruintelikey: thanks alot03:57
Camaxtlictrl+alt+backspace for x-restart iirc03:57
martallithumper: Yes, maybe just restart the computer, since nvidia is a kernel driver....try ctrl-alt-backspace first if you want03:58
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CamaxtliMartalli: Is the driver a module? If so it might be easier to simply rmmod and modprobe it03:58
CamaxtliAnd then restart the x server03:59
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martalliCamaxtli: thumper: Could you try that thumper? I don't know if it would work and I'm curious03:59
thumperjust restarting X make the title bars appear03:59
martalliIm just a lazy windows refugee, I probably retsart the computer more often than necessary04:00
martallithumper: cool04:00
Camaxtlimartalli: If it's a module it should work, it's how I got my wireless working without restarts ;)04:00
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thumperthe beryl cube doesn't work very well with the kicker screen selector04:00
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CamaxtliWell, unless it's compiled into the kernel, but that's a different story04:00
airmonThanks, I'm outta here.04:01
philfook, starting over...04:01
thumperthanks04:01
thumperouta here04:01
Roeyhi all04:01
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RoeyIs there an Ubuntu compatability matrix for wifi usb dongles??  thanks04:01
Camaxtlindiswrapper?04:02
CamaxtliIf it doesn't work out of the box04:02
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CamaxtliRoey: Read the documentation on WiFi, you'll probably need ndiswrapper or something like that04:03
Roeyeeerg.04:03
Roeyarg.04:03
RoeyI thought this Ubuntu is supposed to Just Work.04:03
Roeyndiswrapper, eh?04:03
CamaxtliWireless is a problem.04:03
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RoeyAs if I have the Windows drivers even.04:03
martalliCamaxtli: What are you using?04:03
CamaxtliEither it works or you have to do a few things to make it work04:03
RoeyCamaxtli:  ok.04:03
martalliCamaxtli: woops - sorry04:04
Roeythanks anyway04:04
andrew__Hi again, does anyone know of a good program for handling RAR files? ARC would not handle it...04:04
Camaxtlimartalli: This laptop is running kubuntu feisty04:04
martalliRoey: What kind of wireless (or laptop) do you have?04:04
Roeymartalli:  I had this WPG111 dongle from Linksys.04:04
RoeyI had read that it did work 'out of the box' in Kubuntu (Edgy)04:04
CamaxtliOdd, then it should simply work :/04:05
BluesKajandrew , unrar04:05
andrew__thank you ;)04:05
Roeyi didn't have time to really sit down and do it--I had to catch a flight04:05
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Roeynow I'm back though :) and I can afford to spend more time on it.04:05
martalliRoey: Maybe you should try feisty (at least the livecd)...wireless is even better on feisty04:05
Roeyel-grecco:  heh04:05
Roeymartalli:  I was so hoping that!04:05
intelikeymakuseru you still around ?04:05
Roeymartalli:  right, I seriously lacked a Feisty CD last-last Friday.04:05
Roeyand I knew it.04:05
martallilol - the torrent was running flat out later int he evening.  I hadn't seen speeds like that in a long time for a torrent04:06
martalli(the evening meaning last friday)04:06
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makuseruintelikey: yes04:06
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philfoN6REJ, you still around?04:06
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intelikeymakuseru i got the same error message on startup of kguitar,   but; the following line states that it created the secquenser node,   what flavour of ubuntu you got ?04:06
makuseruKubuntu Edgy04:07
intelikeykubuntian it could be a bug in edgy   i don't know.   kapper works.   and if you are not recieving any other error messages in the konsole   i'm at a loss as to what more i can do to help.04:08
el-greccoRoey:04:08
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intelikeymakuseru ^04:08
N6REJyep04:09
N6REJsorry, wrapped up in my music04:09
makuseruthanks for the try intelikey04:09
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philfome too04:09
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philfoso do I replace universe with multiverse?04:09
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N6REJNO add04:09
sureen04:09
N6REJuniverse multiverse04:09
philfook04:10
N6REJjust like that04:10
philfothanks04:10
N6REJnp04:10
intelikeymakuseru it wouldn't really surprise me if they did break something...  maybe it's fixed again in feisty...   at any rate you can ask the developers about it.     i don't work here.  (not officially anyway)04:10
N6REJlol yeah right intelikey04:10
makuseruintelikey:  you should be on the payrole04:11
makuserupayroll*04:11
N6REJI used to be a sysop for M$04:11
intelikeyN6REJ i am in no way assoceated with ubuntu linux or any package/portion or dirivative there of.04:11
N6REJleft when they went treasonus04:11
N6REJintelikey: I hear ya04:11
BluesKajN6REJ , i got the websites using windows media for video to play with the gxine plugin04:11
N6REJjust ras'n ya04:11
N6REJcool!04:12
philfook, multiverse has been added after each universe04:12
N6REJand there are no # infront of those lines?04:12
BluesKajmy mplayer is still broken04:12
N6REJBluesKaj: is it made by M$?04:12
N6REJI hear media player 11 works well :P04:13
BluesKajno it's part of the mencoder family04:13
philfonow there aren't04:13
N6REJjust out of curiosity why mplayer?  have you tried others?04:13
N6REJok04:13
philfoand now04:13
BluesKajnot gonna use wine ... what's thew point of linux if you use wine ?04:14
N6REJphilfo: now, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:14
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N6REJone nice long line04:14
jmanlol04:14
N6REJget up and go get a cup of coffee04:14
BluesKajwell it was the player that used to work on sites embedded with wm video stuff04:14
N6REJoh04:15
BluesKajthe mplayer plugin for FF04:15
philforight after that last multiverse?04:15
N6REJoh oh oh that mplayer04:15
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N6REJNO04:15
N6REJoh wait04:15
N6REJlol04:15
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N6REJhave you typed anything yet?04:15
philfonope04:15
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N6REJok04:15
N6REJcontrol X04:15
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N6REJthen y04:15
N6REJthen enter04:15
N6REJback to $?04:15
intelikeyN6REJ see pm04:16
N6REJk04:16
philfook, it's back04:16
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philfo$ that is04:17
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philfonow run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ???04:17
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matthew1429does anyone know where I can nab the text-only installs of ubuntu/kubuntu?04:18
matthew1429I keep getting x.org crashes when trying to install edgy on my laptop04:18
N6REJmatthew1429: get the server distro or xubuntu04:19
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N6REJxubuntu uses XFCE and is very lightweight and actually quite nice.04:19
N6REJelse get server distro and build as you go04:19
martallimatthew1429: I think you want the "alternetive install" disk04:19
N6REJwhen you get to the spot where it says "lamp" or "dns" leave both blank04:19
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N6REJmartalli: he's wanting a con only install I think.04:20
SubOnehow do i get the Win key to popup the launch menu?04:20
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N6REJSubOne: go to system setting and keyboard and then map it.04:20
martalliN6REJ: I have a p2-400 mhz laptop and honestly kubuntu and xubuntu felt about the same on it (~256 mb memory)04:20
SubOnebut it wont let me map it. it just waits for another key04:21
N6REJreally?  I've not tried mine yet, though I'm betting ready to.. 192mb K62-38304:21
N6REJ?04:21
N6REJhmm04:21
N6REJthere's a program to change your keyboard type... it illudes me this second.04:21
N6REJlet me look04:21
SubOneoh i guess you cant use it as a standalone key if its also mapped as a modifier04:22
martalliI think for truly old hardware, fluxbuntu sounds like a better idea04:22
N6REJSubOne: you got it.04:22
N6REJmartalli: haven't heard of that one.04:22
martallihttp://fluxbuntu.org/04:23
N6REJSubOne: there is a kde program that will let you modify your keyboard type.  I don't know if its a native install or if you have to manually tell adept to add it.04:23
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martalliA fluxbox frontend with a ubuntu base04:23
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N6REJkool04:24
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martalliSubOne: You can do it in the process of a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:24
martalliIt offers a place where you can type something like altwin:metawin - I don't know exactly, its right there in the interaction, though04:25
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martalliN6REJ: Of all the minimalist window managers, I always liked windowmaker and fluxbox04:25
matthew1429so the alternate install cd (600 megabytes) should help me get around my x.org crashes when installing ubuntu on my dell inspiron 9400/e1705?04:25
philfoN6REJ:  the update is done04:26
martallimatthew1429: Were you able to install it to start with and then its crashing afterwards?04:26
N6REJok, now we can play04:26
philfoand?04:26
N6REJexcept now its my bed time :(04:26
matthew1429martalli - I can install dapper through safe graphics mode04:26
matthew1429edgy is crashing on both04:26
N6REJok, herer's what you need to.04:26
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matthew1429never did install it04:26
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Slynderdale"Dell Refunds Vista/Works With Two Emails" - http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/25/194420904:26
philfodang.  thanks though04:27
martallimatthew1429: Safe graphics mode is just a standard vesa driver.  Should work in edgy and feisty too.04:27
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martallimatthew1429: Once installed, you need to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:27
N6REJthe files are split between v2.6 and v2.9  Your going to have to look for them.  Check adept first to see if you can find them in the repos.04:28
matthew1429martalli: for some reason, it still crashes in edgy... it was a successfull loophole in dapper but having all kinds of problems04:28
N6REJuse firefox and go here .ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.904:28
martalliGoogle your monitor specs, esp the horiz and vert refresh - that;'s probably where your problem is04:28
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N6REJthats where 90% of the files are.04:28
matthew1429thats the thing it WONT install martalli, it hangs and says X server couldn't start04:28
N6REJthe exception to that is atk, that is in 2.604:28
matthew1429it cant find my vid card or something04:28
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philfoN6REJ: that's for me?04:28
martallimatthew1429: Then I would try the alt install disk and go from there04:28
N6REJphilfo: yes04:28
matthew1429martalli: okay, thanks04:28
matthew1429:)04:28
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martallimatthew1429: Or, you could use the dvd install - it has both methods04:29
N6REJfollow that ladies instructions, they seem clear04:29
matthew1429yeah, dont have time to wait for that d/l04:29
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matthew1429im hoping feisty upgrades nicely from edgy04:29
philfook, I'll try to get it done.  probably going to be flailing around for another day thoguh04:29
philfothanks04:29
N6REJI'll be back t/m04:30
N6REJafter around 10am04:30
N6REJits 2130 now04:30
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martallimatthew1429: It worked well for me04:32
laptopWhich is better KDE or GNOME?04:32
laptopfor ubuntu?04:32
martalliother people have complained04:32
N6REJlol04:32
N6REJk04:32
BluesKajubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is KDE04:33
martallilaptop: lol - you're asking a biased group...maybe you should pose that to the #fluxbox channel04:33
laptopyeah dont they both offer the exact same functionality?04:33
laptopjust differernt GUI?04:33
SlynderdaleYeap04:33
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martallilaptop: pretty much...but it isn't only that one has trhe menu on the top, the other on the bottom04:34
N6REJok, kind folks, nighty nite for me.04:34
laptoplol04:34
laptop(which you can move around, correct?)04:34
N6REJwhat gui are youused to laptop?04:34
BluesKajborisyeltsin , defected to canucksville :)04:34
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martalliMy four year old wants his edubuntu comp to be like mine (kubuntu), so he is contatntly dragging his menu bar to the bottom04:34
N6REJlol04:35
laptopN6REJ:  I tried both....I like Gnome better, but Before I get stuck on it, wanted to ask04:35
N6REJthats cute04:35
billytwowillyactually, that's my irc client at school.04:35
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BluesKajwell laptop, in that case YOU"RE IN THE WRONG ROOM!04:36
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N6REJlook at the apps you want to run and make your decision based on that.  deciding based on the window is like buying a car cause its pretty.  But what you really needed was a truck!04:36
laptopno Im not04:36
laptopIm asking an opinion.04:36
eigentardis there any way to get HL2 running in kubuntu?04:36
BluesKajthis is KDE chat04:36
laptopYou guys know KDE, so your opinion is valuable.04:36
eigentardwithout wine or anything?04:36
BluesKajor support ....or help or....04:36
martalliThe two year old drags every desktop icon into the toolbars and makes a mess of it...at least the mac has a desktop parental control that keeps the kiddies from movies icons all over the place. They shoudl incorporate that into edubuntu04:36
martallilaptop: I have used both, and I truly prefer KDE.04:37
laptopOr some sort of lock on icons04:37
N6REJmartalli: I think you can with the system settings.04:37
eigentardmartalli: why not just setup an account for the kid, password yours, and log out after you're done?04:37
laptopmartalli:  okay, why?04:37
martalliI think gnome typically offers fewer options to epeople, which is nice in office settings.  KDE offers more upfront tweaking04:37
N6REJkde is more mmmmmm gadgety?04:37
eigentardhow does gnome differ from KDE?  I've only ever used Sabayon and Kubuntu04:38
martallieigentard: The computer is only his.  He can';t mess up much except his own files, since he doesn't know sudo04:38
eigentardwell teach him sudo and let him mess up his computer04:38
eigentardHe'll learn more that way04:38
N6REJhow is mac osx diff then kde?  same sort of question04:38
martallilol - so much is similar, even between win/macos/and kde04:39
N6REJyep04:39
N6REJI was shocked04:39
eigentardIf I hadn't spent so much time tinkering around with the hardware / OS of my computer when I was a pre-teen... well then I'd probably not be half the person I am today :X04:39
eigentardyah04:39
philfowhat am I to do with those files at the .ftp?04:39
N6REJsave them04:39
N6REJthen follow the directions04:40
martalliSometimes, I think that the differences come down tot he software that you wanmt to use - if you are using mostly qt programs vs. gtk program (although both can run progs from the other side withthe right libraries installed04:40
philfothe whole directory?04:40
N6REJNO!04:40
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prophethow do you reset the menues fro Konquror04:40
N6REJok, let me explain, you see how she has v2.6/blah for each file?04:40
laptopIf I dont like GNOME or KDE what else is there?04:40
BluesKajkcontrol or kedit04:40
martallieigentard: For myt pre-teen years, there was the vic20 lol04:41
N6REJlaptop tons!04:41
N6REJand kde has several flavors also04:41
martallilaptop: xfce, windowmaker, fluxbox, and it goes on and on04:41
N6REJlaptop, first figure out what you want to use on your pc then get the desktop that runs those apps the best.04:41
prophethow do you reset the menues fro Konquror??04:42
N6REJmartalli: don't leave out mac osx :P04:42
martallilaptop: one of my favorite stripper distros is puppy...it runs jwm iirc04:42
N6REJmartalli: DSL!04:42
philfowell, 2.9, but yes.04:42
BluesKajN6REJ , lots of ppl run a mix of gnome based and kde based programs04:42
martalliN6REJ: An imac is going to be my next computer.  I decided that if i really want a proprietary os for stuff (videos of the kids, actually), then a mac would be better than windows), and it runs linux to boot (pun intended lol)04:43
N6REJok, then you go there and she says, "gz" but theydon't have .gz files anymore so get the .bz2's04:43
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philfothen just save the .bz2's?04:43
prophetanyone?04:43
martalliprophet: Im not sure what you mean?04:44
N6REJmartalli: I got a b/w g3 - 500 with 1G ram 40G HD and DVD drive given to me :D  So it has osX 10.3.9 ( panther ) on it.  I'm half toying with switching my desktop to osx just to get used to it.04:44
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prophetin Konqueror the "file edit view windows" menues are gone, i dont know howt to bring them back04:44
N6REJphilfo: yes!, use those whenever she says .gz04:44
martalliprophet: wierd - you aren't running beryl or somesuch are you?04:44
N6REJphilfo: if I remember right the command to unpack a .bz is diff then a .gz though so ask hin here when you get that far.04:44
prophetno, i took them off by accident cant u reset the UI some how?04:45
N6REJprophet: easy. you can make them stay there if you like.04:45
prophethow do i bring them back04:45
ffffuhi i need help on the openoffice in edgy.. why spell check says check done but doesn't detect any spelling error? did i forget some package? i've installed 3 edgy, all is the same04:45
martalliprophet: type ctrl-m04:45
propheti only have the TABS section only04:45
N6REJnm LOL04:45
prophetthnx04:45
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philfowish me luck.04:46
eigentardman.. I need a new hard drive04:46
N6REJthere's pleny of folks here that will help you.04:46
eigentardhow long is a 13gb root partition going to suffice?04:46
N6REJin *nix?  A LONG TIME.04:46
martalliprophet: Of course, I could only find that by looking in the menus lol04:46
eigentardi'm dual-booting with windows xp so most of the rest of my harddrive space is media04:46
Jucatoprophet: it's not really there by default on Kubuntu04:46
eigentardN6REJ: seriously? cool04:46
N6REJeigentard: you can install *nix in less then 500k if necessary.  All the rest is fluff04:47
eigentardlike I really can't think of any programs that I need for linux beside what's come already (and xmms etc)04:47
martallieigentard: That's plenty large for most things...however, I had a 6-10 gb root partition and things were tight for the edgy->feisty upgrade04:47
Jucatoprophet: http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html (just follows steps 1 and 2, no need for 3 unless you want it)04:47
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eigentardfeisty?04:47
eigentardi'm running edgy right now04:47
eigentardwhat's feisty?04:47
Jucato!feisty | eigentard04:47
ubotueigentard: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)04:47
comodois feisty already released?04:47
martallieigentard: With tens of thousadns of programs in the repositories, you might fin yourself downloading gobs of programs04:47
laptopHOW easy is it to install KDE and GNOME on the same machine and just switch between them, is it hard to manage????04:48
eigentardah cool04:48
N6REJ13g will last you a long time as long as you don't try things like tons of heavy games or videos.04:48
eigentardI'll wait 'til it's released officially to upgrade04:48
eigentardwhy does it take so much more space?04:48
eigentardN6REJ: I've got XP for games04:48
N6REJlaptop: no, its very simple04:48
eigentardalthough it's annoying to switch back and forth04:48
eigentardhaha04:48
laptopFeisty is easily more stable than 6.10 imo04:48
Jucatolaptop: it's easy. except that you'll have twice as much apps in your menys04:48
N6REJeigentard: then your set maybe for life.04:48
laptophrm04:48
prophetim missing the address bar now :()04:48
eigentardcool04:48
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eigentardI just installed kubuntu two weeks ago and already there's a new one :X04:48
martallieigentard: The problem is that 5gb of programs is being replaced by another 5gb, coming down in debs, and then you need space for the unpacking and whatnot04:48
eigentardah yah04:49
eigentardwell can it unpack into space NTFS space?04:49
N6REJyep04:49
N6REJno!04:49
comodowhat dos feisty have to offer that 6.10 dont04:49
N6REJbut you can shrink the ntfs space :D04:49
laptoplook it up big change list04:49
martalliNo need to really upgrade to feisty unless you are having trouble with your laptop's wioreless (me =)04:49
eigentardhaha I can't without formatting lots of stuff I don't want to format :P04:49
martallieigentard: not a good idea..infact edgy can't write to ntfs04:49
eigentardah it can't?04:49
philfodo these files need to be saved anywhere in particular?04:49
eigentardit can read it though it seems04:50
eigentardI can play movies and music off my NTFS partitions through XMMS/Kaffeine/etc04:50
martallieigentard: read, not write04:50
eigentardcool04:50
N6REJeigentard: do a safe mode defrag and then let *nix move the part04:50
martallieigentard: there is a package , ntfs-3g or something like that that purports to be able to read and write ntfs04:50
N6REJoh, and turn off all swap first LOL04:50
N6REJalright, I'm really off to bed LOL04:51
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Jucato!ntfs-3g | eigentard04:51
ubotueigentard: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:51
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ffffuhi i need help on the openoffice in edgy.. why spell check says check done but doesn't detect any spelling error? did i forget some package? i've installed 3 edgy, all is the same04:52
martalliffffu: Maybe you're a good speller04:53
martallior you added a mispelling04:53
daskreech2Jucato: saw the kubuntu mini review?04:54
matthew1429how do I find out the model of my dvd burner through linux???04:54
daskreech2http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/2007/03/hidden_linux_cures_for_kde_bor.html04:54
prophetlinux is hard.04:54
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Jucatodaskreech2: not yet. checking now04:54
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martallilol X just crashed outright!  Maybe y'all ought to hold off on the feisty-beryl combo just yet04:55
martalliIt was like the power went our for asec , and then x restarted like I had pressed strl=alt-backpasce04:56
daskreech2prophet: you are very late ;-004:57
ryanakcahow do I reset /etc/motd to default?04:57
daskreech2Jucato: kiwwi wouldn't be happy04:57
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Jucatodaskreech2: well, art is a very subjective area.04:58
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daskreech2:-)04:58
daskreech2doesn't mean that he would be happy04:58
Jucatodaskreech2: that said, the article is poorly titled, imho04:59
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Jucatodaskreech2: I didn't say he wouldn't be unhappy about it :)04:59
daskreech2:-)04:59
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ryanakcadaskreech2: Jucato: ouch, that's... harsh?04:59
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daskreech2yeah04:59
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Jucatoryanakca: very. but the author just seems to be "building on" an anti-KDE atmosphere just to get his point across, which isn't really anti-KDE... sort of like just trying to market his article by using a provoking article05:00
martalliI think I know what happened...I was installing wine with adept when the whole thing went down05:00
Jucato(anyway, getting OT :P)05:00
ryanakcayeah05:01
ffffui've explicitly misspell something of course05:01
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ffffuanybody have problem with spell check after fresh installation or is it just me05:02
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daskreech2I love his reason for having multiple desktops05:03
daskreech2so that he can view his desktop without having to click the desktop button05:03
martalliWell, I tried it on openoffice (fresh feisty install) and it caught chi (was suppposed to be is) but missed fo4r05:03
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martalliI was typing "Now is the time for all good ment to come to the aid of their country."  My mom loved to type that out on typewriters back in the day (to test them out i guess)05:04
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ffffuif u type adfasdflkj or installaioon , does it detect?05:05
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martalliIt wanted to change it to: "if u type steadfast or installation , does it detect?"05:07
Jucatoffffu: do you have a dictionary installed? aspell or ispell?05:07
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martalliI don't knwo how it got steadfast from adfasdflkj - I think that is a bug myself05:07
martalliWhat program are you using? OOo?05:07
voorhees86how i restart the kde ?05:07
Jucatovoorhees86: restart KDE? logout and log back in05:08
martallivoorhees86: ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X05:08
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daskreech2voorhees86: if going that route save anything you have open05:09
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ffffuaspell? how do i know05:13
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philfowow this is amazingly frustrating.05:14
daskreech2hmm?05:15
ffffui had aspell05:16
ffffubut openoffice use that?05:16
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martalliffffu, i would think that the ooo package would specifiy its own dependencies05:19
daskreech2philfo: what's frustrating05:22
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ForgeAushey all :)05:24
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aaron_ok I am at a loss here05:26
ffffusigh.. i don't know what to ask but my openoffice just don't detect anything.. checked the options under language aid, english US is ticked05:26
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aaron_Ive got kubuntu and the mouse has a ridiculously high latency in quake 305:26
aaron_does anyone have something that will solve my day long plight05:28
daskreech2ffffu: yeah i moved to kofficwe05:29
daskreech2office05:29
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fignewdaskreech2: how is koffice treating you?05:34
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daskreech2It's not great but its exciting05:34
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daskreech2you will in time05:35
fignewdoes kubuntu handle defaults fine?05:35
daskreech2what do you use it for?05:35
daskreech2DEfaults?05:35
fignewso.. say I install koffice, will it open in koffice (even if OOO is installed?)05:35
fignewdaskreech2: school work05:36
ffffukoffice?05:36
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fignewffffu: ?05:37
daskreech2oh right05:37
daskreech2yeah I think so05:37
daskreech2I removed Openoffice05:37
daskreech2but yeah you can switch it to open with Koffice pretty easy05:37
ffffudaskreech2: if u draw lines and shapes with koffice, will there be problem for microsoft user to open?05:38
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daskreech2Depends on if you use flake or not05:39
ffffui mean, will the arrangement of the lines05:39
daskreech2 it has a good exporterto Microsoft formats05:39
martalliI think ooo beats koffice, but then we have amixed environment at my office (linux and windows)05:39
daskreech2but YMMV05:39
Ash-FoxI think Microsoft Office 2007 beats other office suits in terms of the UO :/05:40
Ash-Foxerr UI05:40
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Ash-FoxAdditionally, the spell checker, grammer checker, the helpfulness of the UI that's able to determine when you're continuing to number sections etc.05:40
martalliAsh-Fox, I don't know anything about it - its about $500 over my price range.  For 100% of what we do at my office, ooo is all we need05:41
martalliAsh-Fox, but ms office certainly does have a lot more features (and some very nice stuff) over ooo and koffice05:41
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martalliMost of the small businesses I know are wasting their money on ms office, though05:42
Ash-FoxI have to say, before office 2007, I didn't really want to use Microsoft Office05:42
ffffui think i going to reinstall my ooo05:42
KaoticEvil2003 is better than 200705:42
Ash-FoxBut with the ribbon interface, it's somewhat, a lot nicer.05:42
Ash-FoxKaoticEvil, I disagree.05:42
KaoticEvili dont like the way so many menu commands that i use all the time are hidden05:43
Ash-Fox2003 was horribly bug ridden when it first came out, the interface wasn't as nicely polished and it suffered numerous UI design issues05:43
Ash-FoxKaoticEvil, then add the button you want via customize?05:43
KaoticEvili shouldnt have to tho05:43
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KaoticEvilthe commands i need are common.05:43
Ash-FoxI don't have to. I have no idea why you need to.05:43
KaoticEvilthey shouldnt be hidden05:43
Ash-FoxFor example?05:44
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martalliJucato, I think so.05:45
KaoticEvillol05:45
Ash-FoxJucato, I'd join a offtopic channel, but I can't join anymore channels ;)05:45
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KaoticEvilback later05:45
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JucatoAsh-Fox: heh :P05:45
JucatoAsh-Fox: ask for an exception from #freenode05:45
Ash-FoxI'd ask, but I can't join :P05:45
martalliAsh-Fox, How many channels is that?05:46
ffffucan anyone tell me /usr/share/myspell/dicts fiels should be root or user ownership?05:46
Ash-FoxI'm on 20 channels on this network.05:46
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Jucatofreenode has a 20-channel limit05:46
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martalliffffu, I think everything in /usr shoudl be root's05:46
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JucatoAsh-Fox: if you ask for an exception, you can join more than 20 channels05:46
SilentDishello :)05:46
Ash-FoxJucato, I don't think there is a exception for channels available.05:47
pollyoDoes Kubuntu automatically mount DVD's?05:47
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martalliAsh-Fox, as long as you're at it, can you put logs for all of freenode up on the web for us? lol05:47
daskreech2should05:47
Ash-FoxThe only way I know of getting around channel limits is by having a o-line.05:47
hitmanWillypollyo: does for me05:47
KaoticEvilhow many channels are you in?05:47
daskreech2DAng it lost again :-(05:47
JucatoAsh-Fox: there is. that's why I said you can ask for an exception05:47
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martalliI am personally having problems with feisty - kaffeine complains that it does not have the proper plugin - I went to the trouble of installing libdvdcss, but it still doesn't work.  Only trustyu ole vlc plays my dvds05:48
KaoticEvilAsh-Fox: how many channels are you in?05:48
SilentDisquestion:  i'm burning a copy of Kubuntu 6.10 DVD for a friend (yay another convert!), and he's interested in using it multilingually (spanish/english).  while I'm not a multilingual user myself, is the act of selecting the translation trivial, or is it complicated?05:48
JucatoKaoticEvil: 2005:48
Ash-FoxKaoticEvil, 20.05:48
Jucato <Ash-Fox> I'm on 20 channels on this network.05:48
KaoticEvilO_O05:48
eigentardwhy?05:48
KaoticEvilJucato: i left before he posted that ;)05:49
billy_is there a quick way to play a DVD in kubuntu? (family is waiting)05:49
SilentDis!dvd | billy_05:49
eigentardyou can't possibly read all of them unless all but 3 or 4 are actually active05:49
ubotubilly_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:49
ffffucan anyone tell me what's on your openoffice --> tools-->option-->langujage-->writing aid ?05:49
SilentDisbilly_: basically, install libdvdcss2, run the script, and kaffene will play without issue :)05:49
Ash-FoxJucato, as usual, I get forwarded to #freenode-social :P05:49
ffffui'm going crazy without spell check05:49
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JucatoAsh-Fox: ah my bad, you'll probably have to PM staff :/05:50
martallibill_k, You can also use the medibuntu repos (http://medibuntu.org/repository.php)05:50
billy_thanks, hope that works silentdis05:50
martalliIf you are using feisty, you might need to install vlc for the moment05:50
SilentDisbilly_: it does.  it's pretty simple... feisty fawn makes it even easier apparently.05:50
KaoticEvilmartalli: whys that?05:50
billy_nope, nogo libdvdcss2 package is not available05:51
billy_says it is referred to by another package05:51
martallibilly_, try the medibuntu repos.  how to at http://medibuntu.org/repository.php05:51
billy_so i don't think i mispelled it05:51
SilentDisbilly_: you have to enable the seveas repo.05:51
SilentDis!seveas | billy_05:51
ubotubilly_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:51
bill_kmartalli: billy_, not me, right?05:51
martalliKaoticEvil, kaffeine says "plugin not installed".  even afer installing libdvdcss05:51
martallibill_k, yeah, right, sorry.  Still figuring out autocompletion with xchat05:52
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KaoticEvilmartalli: hmm.. that kinda sucks lol.. i prefer VLC over kaffiene anyway :)05:52
martalliKaoticEvil, I probably just have to tell kaffeine where the libdvdcss liubs are hiding05:52
billy_how do i enable that repository?05:53
martalliKaoticEvil, well, except that kubuntu is in love with kaffeine and wants to open everything with it lol05:53
daskreech2billy_: did you eanble multiverse?05:53
billy_is this quick? if its complicated i'll just reboot into windows XP05:53
martallibilly_ read the howto - but only add medibuntu if it can't be done otherwise05:53
billy_i was just wondering if there was a quick easy answer05:53
daskreech2Depends on if you unsedrstand repos05:53
ffffucan anyone check locale is their LANG=en_US.UTF-8 ??????05:53
martallibilly_ just reboot into windows and ask us after the kids are asleep lol05:54
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daskreech2If you have no idea what I'm talking about reboot and come back ehre after the DVD05:54
daskreech2here05:54
KaoticEvilmartalli: i just changed assosications ;)05:54
SilentDisbilly_: check that link ubotu sent you about the seveas repo.  it's really fast, just add a single line to the bottom of your /etc/apt/sources.list :)05:54
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billy_ok thanks for your help all, i'll figure this out later :)05:54
bill_kmartalli: no problem.05:56
gitafhfj05:56
gitakhh05:56
SilentDisgita: yes, the home row of your keyboard works :D05:56
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martallibilly_, no problem05:58
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pollyoAnyone familiar with an 80-wire ide cable and what is the difference between that and a standard ide cable?06:01
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MuJpollyo: other than it's more work to make it rounded? =P06:02
SilentDisMuJ: lol06:02
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SilentDispollyo: the 80-wire cable is used for 'high speed' ATA drives, faster data rates.06:02
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pollyoSilentDis: Is an ATA drive a type of IDE?06:03
martalliyes, "ide" drives are parallel ata06:04
martallias opposed to serial ata (or sata drivers)06:05
SilentDispollyo: yes. it's the 'last gen' tech.  the newer machines run on SATA (serial ATA).  IDE used to be a 40-wire ribbon, and was the standard for around a decade.  it had an improvement, thus the 80-pin ribbon.  most 'puters now offer SATA connections.  tiny little cable, iirc.06:05
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SilentDispollyo: there's also SCSI, but that's a can of worms to open up.  lotsa complicated stuff in that, and very long explinations hehe :)06:05
martallithe sata cables would be an improvement for system building and small size just for that reason, but they also hap[pen to be faster06:05
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Ash-FoxJucato, apparently they cannot currently set me up above 20 channels :P06:07
MuJonly thing that makes my older computer run really slow is the ancient ide-drives >:|06:07
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crackhead_25anyone know how to copy files from a host kubuntu machine to a vmware guest os (win xp) system on that machine??06:07
SilentDisMuJ: hey, i'm still running IDE drives... well... that and SCSI.  i need a new 'puter :P06:08
MuJand by old I don't mean really old.. it's 2GHz athlon :P06:08
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!06:08
MuJbut the drives really makes a difference06:08
MilhousePunkRockIs it allowed to ask about Feisty, or is there a seperate channel again?06:08
SilentDiscrackhead_25: if you've got network support setup, you can 'share' on the kubuntu hose environment using samba, and connect to it from the winxp guest environment06:08
hitmanWillyyeah, they do06:08
daskreech2MilhousePunkRock: #ubuntu+106:09
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daskreech2unless it's about the upgrade to feisty06:09
pollyoI see these 80 wire cables are still 40 pin connections.  They simply use thinner wires and shield them more,06:09
daskreech2 then we can handle it06:09
SilentDiscrackhead_25: barring that... you MIGHT be able to mount the vmware disk in linux... but i'm not sure how to do that, personally.  sorry.06:09
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SilentDispollyo: yep, 2 wires per pin :)06:09
intelikeypollyo ?06:09
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pollyointelikey: Hello06:10
intelikeySilentDis what kind of cable you talking about ?06:10
pollyoI think I need an 80wire ide cable for my dvd burner.06:10
intelikeymy 80 pin 80 wire scsi cable doesn't match that,  so i was just wondering06:10
MuJcrackhead_25: if you set up networking for the virtual machines you can also just right click on the virtual machine name -> settings -> shared folders and those folders will show up in windows network06:11
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pollyointelkey: We were discussing 80wire (40 pin) ide cables.06:11
intelikeyide   hmmm   ok.06:11
pollyointelikey: They are for faster drives.06:12
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ffffuhow do i remove openoffice completely06:13
intelikeyyeah.06:13
ffffuremove from /usr/bin/openoffice ? or is there a script to uninstall06:13
SilentDisintelikey: yes.  I was refering to IDE.06:13
intelikeyffffu apt-get remove -P openoffice*06:13
pollyoffffu: Doesn't adept have a remove option?06:13
Ash-FoxYes.06:13
SilentDisffffu: sudo aptitude remove -p openoffice*06:13
ffffuoh! ok06:13
MuJdoes apt-get support *? O_o06:14
SilentDisintelikey: darn you!  lol06:14
intelikeyMuJ yes it do06:14
hitmanWillyMuJ: yes06:14
ffffuthx. i'm going to try installing openoffice again................because of the spellcheck06:14
MuJcool.. didn't know that :)06:14
SilentDisMuJ: whatever you do, don't sudo aptitude install k*06:14
SilentDislol06:14
MuJ:P06:14
intelikeyMuJ use with caution   it doesn't default to matching only in the package name.06:14
ffffusometimes when i apt-get remove xxx , and when i install again, it seems like it install very fast without downloading06:15
ffffuhow do i remove the actual source or something/?06:15
MuJif it understands * it understands other regular expressions I presume06:15
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intelikeySilentDis aptitude borked my dpkg... i don't use it no mo06:15
hitmanWillyfffu: you can do it through synaptic06:15
SilentDisffffu: there are .debs stored in /var/cache/apt/archives.  the -P option should purge those as well06:15
pollyoAre the cable connections for sata drives smaller then the idea connections/06:16
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hitmanWillypollyo: majorly06:16
SilentDisintelikey: really?  O.o  never herd of such a problem.  i tend to use aptitude rather than apt-get, as it's dependancy handling is better06:16
intelikeyffffu the dl'd packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/  apt-get clean will purge that dir.06:16
hitmanWillypollyo: they're about the size of usb connection06:16
intelikeySilentDis hehhe it was dependancy handling that messed things up.... lol06:17
pollyoOK.  Do they hvae somthing that is between an IDE and a SATA connection?06:17
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hitmanWillypollyo: not that i know of06:17
intelikeySilentDis it seems to work for installs ok but don't do major removals with it.06:17
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SilentDisintelikey: ok, good to know, thanks :)06:17
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pollyohitmanWilly: I have a Dell E510 and I thought that the connection on the hard drives were smaller then a 40 pin IDE but they do not look like USB size connections.06:18
intelikeyor should i say "be warned it may do for you what it did for me"   you can use it if you want.  i didn't mean to sound like i could/would tell you what to do...06:18
hitmanWillypollyo: about how big?06:19
SilentDisintelikey: as always, !worksforme :)06:19
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intelikeyjap06:19
pollyohitmanWilly: Good question.  It is in tha basement.06:19
hitmanWillypollyo: usb was just a ballpark06:19
kubuntu_hi man06:19
pollyohitmanWilly: I thought they looked about 3/4 the size of the ide cable.06:19
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intelikeypollyo there is a mid grade scsi 60 pin cable06:20
kubuntu_kahejh06:20
SilentDis!hi | kubuntu_06:20
ubotukubuntu_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:20
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kubuntu_hi to06:20
intelikeyor 64 or what ever it was06:20
pollyoWhat is EIDE or something like that?06:20
pollyoAre they the same size as the 40 pin IDE?06:20
kubuntu_what you do06:20
SilentDispollyo: that's an 80-wire 40-pin ribbon cable06:20
hitmanWillypollyo: yes06:20
kubuntu_hi06:20
intelikeyeide = extended ide   same hardware appearance06:20
pollyoOh...06:20
kubuntu_wat06:21
pollyoBe right back... Now I have to go look at the dell.06:21
kubuntu_wat06:21
intelikey!help06:21
hitmanWillywell, i should be cursing dell, but they're off my hit list for a while06:21
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:22
intelikey!topic06:22
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:22
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kubuntu_wat you do06:22
intelikeykubuntu_   see the topic  ^06:23
SilentDiskubuntu_: can you be a bit more vague?  this is the Kubuntu chatroom, for help using/installing/upgrading Kubuntu (kde flavor of ubuntu)06:23
kubuntu_i dont now06:23
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intelikey* Indonesia *06:24
kubuntu_yes indonesia06:25
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kubuntu_hi who are you06:26
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pollyoIt is a USB size cable.06:26
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co_jbrtes06:26
pollyoI was looking at some type of diagnostic cable that was on the motherboard.06:27
hitmanWillypollyo: probably sata then06:27
intelikeyusb ?  15 pin or 9 pin ?06:27
kubuntu_what are you06:27
kubuntu_hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii06:27
co_jbrboleh gabung gak?06:27
pollyohitmanWilly: Can you tell SATA from would it be SATA2 or something?06:27
kubuntu_hello.........................!06:27
kubuntu_jfdsoprkr006:27
hitmanWillypollyo: as far as i know sata is just sata06:28
SilentDiskubuntu_: do you have a question about kubuntu we can help you with?06:28
pollyoAnyone know where I could find a drive on the cheap?  New and good?  I fear the local best buy is going to be over priced.06:28
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hitmanWillypollyo: newegg's pretty good06:28
SilentDispollyo: ordering via the net is usually a lot cheaper.  http://www.pricewatch.com/ :)06:29
pollyoI'll check them both out.06:29
pollyoThanks.06:29
kubuntu_thanks to ooooooooooo06:29
pollyoI can't wait to get kubuntu on my Dell.  It should work much smother.06:29
SilentDispollyo: what kind of specs on that machine?06:29
pollyoSilentDis: Good question it is a Dell Dimension 51006:30
pollyoSilentDis: I should be able to tell you more in a min.  I just rebooted it when I went downstairs.  I'll log in accross the network.06:30
SilentDispollyo: P4 3ghz or so?  512-1gb ram it looks like.  should run k/ubuntu nicely :)06:31
pollyoI have 1 gig ram in it.06:31
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kubuntu_vfdafgrgbdgh06:31
pollyoI was thinking of bumping it up 1 more gig.06:31
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Daisuke_Idonewegg for hardware, in my experience06:32
pollyoOR getting another video card.  I am curious to see beryl.06:32
SilentDispollyo: i'm running 1.25gb right now, personally.  i'd love to throw more in there, but i can't justify any more upgrades for this machine.  just time for a new one :)06:32
SilentDispollyo: beryl is VERY pretty :)06:32
hitmanWillypollyo: i run on a 2.3 ghz AMD w/1 gig and kubuntu runs like lightning06:33
Daisuke_Idovista visuals - hardware vampirism = beryl06:33
pollyoSilentDis: I understand.  I was looking at a computer that a friend wanted to upgrade and couldn't understand why he just didn't sell it and purchase something new.06:33
intelikeyram   heh06:33
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intelikeyMem usage: 52/249 MB (20%)  <--- kde is running.06:33
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Daisuke_Idowhat version though?06:34
pollyoDo they have a ubuntu that will allow you to boot into either kde or gnome?  I saw that on a debian installation not long ago.06:34
hitmanWillynah, beryl's got even better effects than vista06:34
Daisuke_Idopollyo: just install ubuntu-desktop06:34
Daisuke_Ido(if you're using ku, install kubuntu-desktop if using gnome already)06:34
pollyoDaisuke_ldo: Will that add an option when you go to login asking for KDE or Gnome?06:34
intelikeypollyo install gnome ando or kde which ever you don't have06:34
intelikeyyes06:35
SilentDispollyo: AMD Athlon XP 1900+ (1.6ghz), 1.25gb ram, 350gb drive space, external storage to bring it up over a terabyte, Nvidia 7600GS w/ 256mb ram.  problem is, i'm 2 steps behind on all the tech, IDE drives, PC2100 ram, USB1.1, AGP video, etc.  lol06:35
intelikeyit will add the option.06:35
pollyoI didn't realize that.06:35
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hitmanWillypollyo: should be in the sessions option at login06:35
Daisuke_Idopollyo: it's under "session type"06:35
Daisuke_Idojust choose your poison06:35
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intelikeypyzen06:35
pollyoDoes it also add the programs that are installed to the menu choices?06:35
intelikeyyes06:36
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hitmanWillypollyo: i have kde, gnome, enlightenment, wm, fluxbox, twm all as options06:36
stanislavi need some help :(06:36
pollyoI'll have to look into that more when I get the other computer setup.06:36
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pollyohitmanWilly: WOW06:36
SilentDisstanislav: that's why we're here.  ask away :)06:36
intelikeyand as for the finnal Q yes you can run the kde apps in gnome and verse vissa06:36
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hitmanWillypollyo: im fickle06:36
pollyointelikey: OK. Great.06:36
pollyoIt appears the biggest thing holding Linux back right now is driver support.06:37
hitmanWillystill better than vista06:37
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intelikeypollyo linux supports more hardware than any other os in the world06:37
pollyoI have a deal breaker because I can not get a driver for my uncles Lexmark X6170 all-in-one.06:37
hitmanWillypollyo: lexmark nix support SUCKS!!06:38
pollyoLexmark has some type of linux driver development kit but no drivers for the printers. (few)06:38
SilentDispollyo: ouch.  yeah, from what I hear, lexmarks are really hit-or-miss.  best bets are HP from my understanding.06:38
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pollyohitmanWilly: I read that everywhere though they claim to have some type of development kit for linux.06:38
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MuJit's not long ago my scanner got supported :)06:39
pollyoI have an HP but it is a 710C it isn't quite standard.  It works but the image quality takes a hit.06:39
pollyoThe windows drivers are so much better.06:39
SilentDisMuJ: hehe.  i got one of those Microsoft fingerprint readers as a 'gift' for my birthday... i've yet to find support for it, lol06:39
intelikeyMuJ and pollyo but if you own lexmark hardware please do pester them about linux support.  costomer input does matter on that sort of thing.   "the squeeky wheel gets the greese"06:40
pollyoI wonder if it will ever be possible for a winprinterwapper.06:40
MuJSilentDis: heh... you might need to wait a bit on that one06:40
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MuJintelikey: I don't :|06:40
hitmanWillyheh, worked for Dell06:40
max_how do you mount a harddrive06:40
pollyointelkey: I'm going to call them in the morning.06:40
intelikey!ntfs | max_06:40
ubotumax_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:40
SilentDisMuJ: my intent was to wait 'forever'.  it's a neat idea, and kinda cool for the few moments i booted into windows to play with it, but very superfulus :)06:40
max_its not windows or mac06:40
hitmanWilly!fstab | max06:41
ubotumax: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions06:41
SilentDismax_: basic line is mount /some/thing /some/where.  what are you trying to mount, and to what end?  we need specifics :)06:41
intelikeymax_ mount /dev/<devicenode> /media/<mountpoint>06:41
max_intelikey: thanks06:41
pollyoI'm just looking to find out how to get windows to boot from a startup option and in qemu from the same partition but it looks like a no go.06:41
intelikey!sudo | max_06:41
ubotumax_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:41
max_SilentDis: im just mounting another linux partition, i coudnt remember what the command was06:42
intelikeymax_ you'll need root perms to mount06:42
max_intelikey: yes, i know06:42
pollyoI wanted to setup windows to run in virutalization when I had linux going and linux to run in virtualization when I had windows going.06:42
SilentDismax_: ahh.  it'll probably be best to use this then:  sudo mount /dev/node /media/mountpoint -o user,defaults06:42
max_SilentDis: i just "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"06:43
intelikeySilentDis -o used  on linux fs's ?06:43
intelikeyerrr user ^06:43
SilentDismax_: that works.  though, /mnt is usually a container, rather than a mount point ;)06:44
SilentDisintelikey: doh, forgot that part.  no, totally not needed, the fs will take care of it.06:44
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intelikey:)06:44
max_SilentDis: i just needed a file off the other partition to test somthing06:44
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SilentDisintelikey: sorry.  most people come in asking how to mount ntfs/fat/fat32 drives.  it's just instinct now lol06:45
makuseruintelikey: your right, it was just a Edgy problem, im on my Fiesty partition and KGuitar works fine06:45
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SubOneEverytime I try to install or uninstall something with Adept I get an error that says "There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." Any idea how I would resolve this issue?06:45
intelikeymakuseru would you drop a bug report on it then please.06:46
intelikey!bug06:46
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:46
makuseruof course06:46
SilentDisSubOne: could you !pastebin the whole error?  if you need it in 'text' format, use this command to try the install:  sudo aptitude install <packagename>06:46
pollyoAnyone familiar with setting up samba to view windows drive contents?06:46
intelikeyand note that feisty is working. in the report06:46
makuserualright06:46
SubOneok i'll try that...06:46
SilentDispollyo: the !samba info bit is REALLY helpful on that :)06:47
pollyoSilentDis: I have to read it more indepth.  I can see the drive.  At times it asks me for a name and password and nothing works.06:47
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SilentDispollyo: is the host you're connecting to win2k/xp?06:47
pollyoSilentDis: I thought it wanted a windows login name and password but it doesn't look like the case.06:48
pollyoSilentDis: XP06:48
hitmanWillypollyo: try the admin password06:48
pollyohitmanWilly: For the windows machine?06:48
intelikeywould this line in ps -A x  alarm anyone ?   1593 tty23    Ss+    0:00 /opt/firefox/bin/bash06:48
SilentDispollyo: it's a setting on XP.  it's been so long since i booted to it though, i'm not sure exactly where it is.  something like 'basic file sharing', or it'll look for a domain host to do username/password verification instead :P06:48
hitmanWillypollyo: yes. and make sure the winblows box is set up for file sharing06:49
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SilentDisintelikey: a little... i'd kill the user personally...06:49
pollyohitmanWilly: Taking a look now.06:49
intelikeySilentDis just checking...06:50
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SilentDisintelikey: I'm a BOFH when it comes to that kinda thing though.  kill -9 'em all and let root sort it out :D06:51
pollyoDoes windows have an admin by default?  I am only showing Remote, User, and Guest accounts on my windows (anyone know)06:51
intelikeyroot      1593  0.0  0.6   2708  1552 tty23    Ss+  18:44   0:00 /opt/firefox/bin/bash      hehhe SilentDis06:51
SilentDispollyo: the first user of the windows machine is usually considered an admin account.06:51
SilentDisintelikey: lol06:51
pollyoOk06:52
SilentDisoff to play a bit of WoW i guess.  take care all :)06:52
hitmanWillypollyo: plus the network connection itself has to be enabled for printer/file sharing, not just individual folders06:52
intelikeywould have some of the general ear marks of a root shell of some sort wouldn't it...06:53
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hijjtis there a grub option to make x not start, it refuses to start and won't let me back to console again at all, any other suggestions will help06:53
intelikeyhijjt 106:54
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martalliIs there a "failsafe" option in your grub menu?06:55
intelikeyhijjt if that's not powerfull enough.    init=/bin/sh nosplash verbose06:55
nick_ok easy one here....what is the best burning software avalable in the linux adet manager06:55
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hijjtmartalli, no, I only have a grub command prompt right now... xfs filesystem failed to install grub all the way, very annoying06:56
intelikeynick_ best ?      gcombust06:56
nick_thank you06:56
hijjtintelikey, that will work perfect06:56
intelikeynick_ no xcdroast06:56
intelikeynick_ no wait.   k3b06:56
nick_actually i dont even need the best, i just need one that works06:56
intelikeynick_ i like cdw  :)06:56
nick_lol06:56
nick_do any support the hole 9 yards (vcd, iso, dvd etc?)06:57
SubOnethat command i ran "sudo aptitude install mplayer" is taking a long time and its saying its setting up a lot of stuff like open office and the kernel etc, what does that command do?06:57
hijjtintelikey, what is the point of doing everything by uuid?06:57
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ser_oHey...06:58
intelikeyhijjt the info is in the fs and not in the location the hardware is attached.    but that doesn't mean it always works..06:58
utnubukwhats the differance between 32 and 64 bit machines???06:58
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martallinick_ You are asking severalk questions - if you're using kde - just use k3b06:58
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ser_ohow do view .chm files ? I have a ebook which is .chm06:58
makuseruintelikey: man, how long do these reports have to be, it keeps saying Error If your bug hasn't been reported before, please describe your problem more in detail."06:58
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nick_also, being new to linux, i dont get this command line thing....If i download a program with a tar.gz extension, the windows in me wants to go in there and find a file to install the software.....but apperently its different any any google search i did gave me 3 pages of command lines and adding slashes and numbers to files that i dont even know where to start.06:59
SubOneutnubuk: the difference is that all data is processed and passed around on 64 bits rather than 3206:59
aaron_is there anyone here that can help me with my mouse problem06:59
intelikeyhijjt example     if you install on hda then move the ide cable to ide1 your system is now on hdc but the uuid is the same.06:59
SubOneutnubuk: on the hardware level06:59
aaron_I am still having it06:59
MaartenLxHey... I'm trying to figure out why it won't let me change wallpaper. I am using right-click ---> configure desktop or the KDE system panel, but whatever I try.... the wallpaper does not change. The people of #ubuntu didn't seem to know and suggested I try here :)06:59
utnubukSubOne: ty06:59
martalli"I first experienced POSIC with BSD UNIX and the csh....then I learned bash....isn't buntu in dash?....then I downloaded the breezey disk....then i downloaded the feisty disk....07:00
SubOneutnubuk: you have to have a 64 bit machine to run 64 bit software07:00
intelikeymakuseru idk send what you have.  or search for one that mentions midi failure07:00
martalliWar and Peace - a bud report in 1000 pages07:00
martallis/bud/bug07:00
hijjtintelikey, good so changing them all back to where i know they are and are going to stay in my laptop won't affect anything07:00
SubOneutnubuk: if i remember correctly the only thing that isnt 64 bit in most 32 bit systems was the data bus07:00
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intelikeyhijjt in theory.07:01
intelikeyhijjt let me know how it turns out in reality  :)07:01
gansinhohello, please I'm having some trouble with kubuntu and my digital camera , digikam and kde regognises it but I can't load the images ( in gnome I don't have this issue, what's strange(07:01
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intelikey!digikam07:02
ubotudigikam: digital photo management application for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.8.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3501 kB, installed size 8832 kB07:02
utnubukSubOne: ill have to start reading more about that stuff07:02
martalliIs ralink wireless support buggy?07:03
os2maccongrats guys... I just did the dist upgrade and it worked just fine...07:03
os2macmy wireless card even works out of the box.07:03
martalliI have a zonet pc-card and it just doesn't want to work with my wpa network07:03
os2macgood job.07:03
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martallios2mac - great going07:03
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keesercc__anyone know how to install xcircuit from source?07:03
intelikeyos2mac good on ya mate07:03
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martallifeisty's wireless support is overall terrific....are you using an ibook perchance?07:03
os2macafter 5 versions the broadcom nic finally worked.07:04
sstchurI just upgrade from edgy to feisty and now my wireless card doesn't work anymore, and I can't boot any previous versions with grub -- I get kernel panic.  Can anyone help?07:04
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nick_ahhhhh....my icons are dissapearing. I have a folder with about 25 mp3 files in it, whe ni open it they all show up and then dissapear!?!?!?!...and it says "25 files, 0 folders"07:05
SubOnesstchur: maybe that was my issue, but i didnt think i ever said yes when that dialog came up07:05
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gansinhointelikey: I'm using digikam correctly, it just can't load the photos...07:05
martallinick_, try changing your view to "details"  are they still gone?07:05
SubOnesstchur: if you still have the install disc use it to boot into rescue mode and then try to edit your menu.lst file to load the previous kernel07:06
nick_1 sec07:06
intelikeykeesercc__ install build-essential   get the source   unpack it.  enter the top level source dir and read the docs supplied (normally in all upper case names) if nothing specific do    ./configure && make && sudo make install && make clean && cd .. tar -c backup.tgz <the-source-dir-name>07:06
sstchurSubOne: Any idea why my wireless doesn't work anymore though?07:06
nick_oh ok07:06
SubOneno clue07:06
intelikeykeesercc__ save that backup.trg cause it's your uninstall tool.07:06
SubOnei still havent got mine working07:06
nick_double clicking made the mappear07:06
martallisstchur, What sort of wireless card do you have?07:06
intelikeygansinho idk never used it.  can you get us some error messages to work with ?07:07
sstchurmartalli: It's a DLink (atheros chip) but I've been using ndiswrappers with edgy which worked great07:07
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intelikeygansinho like call digikam from konsole   so it outputs the error07:07
gansinhointelikey: ok!07:07
martalliI think I saw some review where it showed atheros chips as a restricted module that you could activate07:07
sstchurmartalli: after upgrading to feisty though, It doesn't see the wireless card anymore07:08
martallisudo apt-get install restricted-manager07:08
sstchurmartalli: will that work without an internet connection?07:08
martalliand try running restricted-manager it will offer the nvidia driver, winmodem drivers, etc.07:08
martallisstchur, Only if God will back upyour nic07:09
martallilol07:09
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intelikeywinmodem drivers ???    i need to look into that...07:09
martallisstchur, I guess you will have to wait for a wired connection....07:09
gansinhointelikey: in the terminal there aren't error messages regarding the camera or the usb device, just in the gui I have "Failed to connect to camera. Please make sure its connected properly and turned on." (I'm sure it's connected and turned on)07:09
sstchurmartalli: so if I can get a wired connection, I can run sudo apt-get install restricted-manager ?07:10
sstchurmight be able to do that07:10
gansinhoI know that my cam does not allow to be mounted as mass storage device, but I was able to get the pics even so07:10
martallisstchur, You should be able to.  I have done that on all of my computers so far (most of them have nvidia07:10
martallino atheros wireless whips yet, though07:10
sstchuri'll try... gonna have to unwire this conneciton though07:10
gansinhoI can't acces the pics even with konqueror or other picture apps, I dunno if kde is not mounting it properly or somehing like that07:11
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intelikeygansinho digital camera or webcam ?   cause most digital cameras support disk format on the camera it's self  if that's what you got switch to disk mode and sudo mount /dev/sda /media/      or the like....   it will be a file system just like a disk.07:12
intelikeygansinho if webcam you just went over my range of support....07:12
gansinhointelikey: digital camera, a canon, it does not have a "disk mode" it just connects to the computer when the "viewing photos" are selected (and it is)07:13
gansinhoI'll try to mount it manually07:13
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intelikeylsusb  ;sudo fdisk -l   <<< should help with locating it.07:14
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intelikeygansinho i have played with digital cameras about three times...  so don't expect too much from me.07:16
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gansinhointelikey: thanks anyway= )07:17
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pollyoThis remote desktop has one flaw I can not close firewall popup messages that are on my windows machine from a remote location.07:17
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pollyokrdc07:17
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pollyoor it might be the vnc that is setup on windows.07:17
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nick_is it me or is everything for linux pretty well free?07:18
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martallinick_, That's the main idea07:19
nick_its wesome, BTW07:19
intelikeynick_ that's the "whole" idea07:20
nick_im so sick of windows friggen sherware programs07:20
pollyoAnyone know if a Radeon X600 Display adapter will work for beryl?07:20
intelikeyhttp://www.linux.org07:20
nick_"free to try, 39.95 to buy"07:20
intelikeyhttp://www.gnu.org07:20
intelikeythis is    gnu/linux   you know.07:20
martallifsf.org, debian.org, kubuntu.org, ubuntu.com07:21
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intelikeycould mention google.com > FOSS07:21
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nick_I am using kubuntu because it was given to me on a CD....i know its a primitive question but why kubuntu, ..i mean alot of people tell me to use fedora core or red hat or even ubuntu...wich is better?07:22
pkhelphi07:22
pkhelpI have a serveral problem07:22
martallithe only thing that isn';t free is all the time people have devoted to writing even the most "minor" portion of it07:22
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martalliwell kubuntu and ubuntu are essentially the same, but with a different windowmanager07:22
martallithe guts of the system are the same07:23
nick_oh yeah gnome and kde right?07:23
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martallinick_, right07:23
pkhelpThis night, I was sleeping, my PC freezes07:23
nick_so what looks better?07:23
pkhelpthen I restarted and it didn't restarted in X mode07:23
nick_i like the look of ku07:23
martallinick_, If I was to say one reason above all for someone new to linux, ubuntu and kubuntu are the best because they have the lkrgest community of users behind them to help you out when you are learning.07:23
pkhelpso I type startx07:23
pkhelpand I had  this error07:24
pkhelpthe NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8776, but the X module has the version 1.0-974607:24
martallired hat and fedora are similar, but their community is more business-focused.  the *buntus run the gamut of computer programmers to gamers to doctors07:24
nick_i figured the ubuntu version was most popular because i hear it most offen on the tech tv programs when they talk about linux07:24
pkhelpplease help me07:25
martalli(I mean that red hat and fedora are similar to each other - orry about hat)07:25
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martallipkhelp you have the nvidia drivers installed wrong somehow07:25
pkhelphow can I recovery it?07:25
martallipkhelp - i wonder if you shouldn't uninstall the nvidia driver.....hm a simple start would be to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select vesa as your cideo driver07:26
sstchur_Well I've upgraded to feisty, no wireless, so I wired my computer and tried to upgrade linux-restricted-modules, but adept won't let me (keeps saying "no change")07:26
martallithen you can get back into X to fiddle further07:26
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sstchur_what do I do?07:26
nick_freebsd??07:26
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martallisstchur, I think you need restricted-manager07:26
pollyoDo SATA and SATA2 drives use the same controller?07:27
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pkhelpmartalli now I try to run bpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:27
pkhelpjusta a moment07:27
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intelikeyJucato i don't at all find it sad that gnu is ommited from that page.   but on the same note you will notice a link < http://www.linux.org/info/gnu.html > title; GNU General Public License07:27
martallinick_, freebsd is a very different sort of system at its heart than linux, but many of the utilities are similar07:27
martallinick_,  What are you looking for in linux?07:28
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intelikeyJucato why would you think it sad if the history for "linux" doesn't mention GNU ?   or for that matter if the history on GNU didn't mention linux ?07:29
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martallinick_,  linux is eesentially "just a kernel", in other words, the only thing shared among the linux distros is the very basic part of the operating system.  Much more is required to make a functional operating system.  That is what the various "distrois" are - variations on the creatiuon of an operating system for linux by using different varieties and combinations of free software07:29
sstchur_martalli: I tried the restricted manager, it didn't seem to help07:29
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martallidid it offer atehros drivers?  Was the card int he computer when you ran the program?07:30
intelikeymartalli "just a kernel" as you say is "all the hardware and networking support"07:30
sstchur_martalli: Network Settings still only show one device: eth0 (my wired card)07:30
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Jucatointelikey: a rather off topic subject, so I'll leave it at that.07:30
intelikeypm me07:31
sstchur_martalli: is there a simple way to simply go back to edgy?07:31
martallisstchur_, Im lost on that one, i thought that would work for you07:31
intelikeysstchur_ reinstall.07:31
aaron_ok so can someone see if they can answer my new thread please purty please I am getting desperate07:31
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intelikeyk07:31
sstchur_intelikey: simpler?07:31
aaron_http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3081152.007:31
aaron_theres the link07:31
intelikeysstchur_ no man that is the simple one.07:31
aaron_please I really need help07:32
sstchur_poo07:32
martallisstchur_, I can think of a way, but I don't think uits safe - reinstalling is the best way....there is dpkg -get-packages and some combination of commands, but you are going to get messed up by any structural changes that happened from edgy to feisty07:32
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nick_can someone help me lift a couch?07:32
intelikeysstchur_ if you want convoluted takes for ever and has lots of pitfalls    then there is ONE other way.07:32
martallinick_, Where are you? lol07:32
pkhelpmartalli, now startx starts :)07:32
sstchur_martalli: ok let me ask this.  When I installed edgy, I put /home on a separate partition.  when I reinstall then, I should be able to do it w/o losing my data right?07:33
pkhelpthaks so much07:33
nick_lol....southern ontario...wanna take the drive HAHA07:33
aaron_please someone else besides me must have had this problem07:33
aaron_with the mouse07:33
intelikeysstchur_ i'm not martalli but i'll answere yes07:33
aaron_I cant be the only one07:33
martallipkhelp, no problem.  Now it is easier since I don't rmember for certain the names....however, you probably need to go into adept and remove the nvidia video drivers (select uninstall)07:33
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sstchur_intelikey: good enough for me :-)07:34
martallisstchur_, yes (=)07:34
sstchur_off to reinstall then07:34
sstchur_see you guys in an hour or so07:34
aaron_martalli can you help me maybe07:34
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martalliaaron_, Are you using wine?07:35
intelikeyaaron_ a higher peremption kernel maybe ?07:35
martalli aaron_ Before I helkp you any further, can I have a crack at you in deathmatch (only kidding, but it maybe the only way for me to win lol)07:35
aaron_no not using wine07:36
martalliaaron_,  To tell you the truth, intelikey can probably help you better here07:36
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aaron_running ioquake3 under linux07:36
aaron_ok where is he07:36
aaron_cus I need him07:36
martalliI have never used quake on linux, so I may very well be missing out oj this question07:36
aaron_I will do anything07:36
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aaron_I will sell my soul to mark shuttleworth07:36
martalliaaron_, he was talking to you up there ^^^07:36
aaron_just I need a working mouse07:36
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aaron_is he still here07:37
pkhelpmartalli now I think I have to reinstall nvidia driver right?07:37
obvio171how do i install Apache Maven on kubuntu? do i have to add some special repository?07:37
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aaron_intelikey: you there07:37
martallipkhelp - I thin so - you know you might just let the restricted-manager install it - maybe there ius a problem with your nvidia card - what kind is it?07:37
martalliolder cards use an older nvidia driver, and isnce you had two versions of the nvidia driver...it made me wonder07:38
pkhelpmartalli - it is a GeForce 7900 GS07:38
aaron_http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3081152.007:38
martallioh, well that's pretty new lol07:38
martalliI think you need the latest driver07:38
aaron_there we go posted the forum thread07:38
Ayabarahey. I run a dual screen setup in kubuntu. when I maximize windows on my secondary screen, they don't stop at the desktop panels, but "maximize behind it". also, the mouse cursor on my secondary screen is just a big square. help...07:38
pkhelpIt works fine yesterday07:38
aaron_I think I have found a pretty major bug too07:39
pkhelpI don't know what happens this night07:39
TonrenIs there a way to assign Window Switcher shortcuts to particular windows or window classes?07:39
intelikeyaaron_ i only mentioned that using a higher premption kernel might help you.   server/gamming kernels are set to 1000 while desktop kernels are notmally set to from 100 to 250          as far as your hardware and what you are trying to do if killing everything non-essential and using i high-premption kernel don't do it... new hardware is about the only answer i know of.    and i don't like that answer.07:39
martallipkhelp Did you upgrqade from edgy to feisty or something?07:39
pkhelpIf it did it automatically, no07:40
aaron_ok so can I set more resources for the mouse07:40
aaron_because I really dont feel like new hardware07:40
pkhelpmartalli - If it didn't it automatically, no07:40
aaron_but I can if I must07:40
martalliintelikey, yeah,m his hardware should be able to run quake 107:40
Ayabaraare there any known problems with dual screen setups under kubuntu?07:40
pkhelpmartalli - sorry for my bad english I am italian07:40
aaron_its actually Quake 307:40
aaron_but still07:40
aaron_I mean I had Quake 3 running on a p2 333mhz07:41
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intelikeymartalli the page said  "I booted up ioquake3 and...."07:41
aaron_with 128mb ram07:41
martallipkhelp, did you install it and then reboot the next day and then it didn't work (just making upa story for why maybe it didn't work once you rebooted and restarted X for the first time)07:41
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pkhelpNO07:41
martalliintelikey, oh i think i need to go to bed07:41
aaron_and a 16mb voodoo 307:41
aaron_so it should work07:41
aaron_right07:41
pkhelpmartalli - I install nvidia driver about one month ago07:41
aaron_I mean that comp had windows 95 and this is far better then that07:42
pkhelpmartalli - this night something happened07:42
martallipkhelp i;m stumped07:42
martalliin fact, im going to bed.  Goodnight #kubuntu07:42
intelikey16m voodoo 3 ???   "Radeon 9250 128mb" is what you posted07:42
pkhelpmartalli - I am trying with envy07:42
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=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Arwen at Mon Mar 26 00:45:37 2007
(intelikey/#kubuntu) an app ?07:44
(intelikey/#kubuntu) xorg.conf has v-sync and h-refresh setting in it yes07:45
(aaron_/#kubuntu) ok07:45
(aaron_/#kubuntu) what about mouse preferences07:45
intelikeyyes there aslos07:45
intelikeyalso07:45
aaron_i heard that hardware cursor acceleration will mess it up07:45
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aaron_or whatever it is07:46
aaron_like hardware mouse acceleration07:46
intelikeythat i don't know07:46
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[pyro] hey guys :)07:46
[pyro] !seen genii07:46
Slynderdale[pyro] , No matches were found.07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen genii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
[pyro] :/07:46
Ayabaraanyone? I need helt with some dual screen problems07:47
Ayabarahelp, even07:47
kubuntu_hello07:47
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mrigns!bush07:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bush - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:48
intelikey!bash07:48
aaron_ahh this so frustrating07:48
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands07:48
aaron_I finally get my ati card to work then boom this happens07:49
ariesdfe07:49
ariehello07:49
[pyro] !getting my rocks off07:49
[pyro] ;)07:49
[pyro] ah bloody bot :D07:50
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intelikeyor !getting kicked out of the channel | pyro07:50
aaron_so no way to give more resources to the mouse07:50
aaron_because i think that is what needs to be done07:50
[pyro] lol intelikey07:50
[pyro] intelikey, he's only a bot.. :D07:51
ariepyro you like monkey07:51
[pyro] monkey?07:51
aaron_intelikey07:52
aaron_could I add you onto my msn or something07:52
aaron_I want to get a couple people together that know how to use linux07:52
intelikeyaaron_ i guess you "could" but i don't use msn aim yahoo or any of that...07:53
[pyro] aaron_: you could setup kopete to join IRC and then you would have the whole channel in ur IM.07:53
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aaron_oh07:54
aaron_ok its cool07:54
aaron_I just want some people that are really knowledgable07:54
pollyoDoes kopete work with yahoo chat?07:54
aaron_I want to start my own company07:54
aaron_designed to sell Desktops that come with Ubuntu designed for Linux developers and enthusiasts07:55
aaron_like I saw this distro and was like the reason people aernt jumping on this is because we need to supply more developers07:56
aaron_but yea just an idea07:56
aaron_and they would be cheap07:56
aaron_the fact that the client would be purchasing a system and paying for the hardware only07:56
pollyoaaron_: Good luck.07:57
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aaron_would mean that I could undercut all those windows pc manufacturers by a bit07:57
aaron_but just an idea07:57
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pollyoaaron_: Have you looked at linspire?07:57
aaron_yea I actually tried linspire back when it was lindows07:57
pollyoaaron_: I think they attempted that with Lindows orignally.07:57
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aaron_and I really didnt like it07:58
aaron_I like Ubuntu much better07:58
intelikeyaaron_ the reason some people aren't jumping on this is it doesn't cost enough.     they totally believe "you get what you pay for"  and therefore M$ has to be 400 times better for a desktop and 10000 times better for a server...07:58
ariehi07:58
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[pyro] intelikey: yep i think your spot on there07:58
[pyro] aaron_: like put them in real sweet cases and make them just a little bit more or something like that07:58
[pyro] aaron_: its hard to get good margin's on hardware these days unless you buy bulk anyways. it would be a good way to push the margin up.07:59
pollyointelikey: The main thing windows has going for it is driver support.  That is a big thing.07:59
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intelikeythere is a sucker born every minute.   and they all pass-up free (gnu/linux) and buy the latest windows08:00
[pyro] pollyo: yes but if you were creating a company to sell machines pre-installed with linux, you would pick your hardware accordingly08:00
intelikeypollyo what driver support ?08:00
intelikeypollyo you mean the very latest M$ sponsored hardware ?08:00
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pollyo[pyro] : If you were the average computer shopper you would pick a platform that is going to support the latest printer, camera, ipod device that is on the market.08:01
aaron_yea08:01
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aaron_I dont want to sell to the average computer buyer though08:01
aaron_do you remember NeXT08:01
aaron_that is what I want08:02
aaron_a company that mostly is targeting developers and enthusiasts08:02
aaron_and if some average joe wants to buy one then he is free to do that too08:03
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sstchurwell, edgy's back... I guess that wasn't so bad08:03
[pyro] pollyo: you could stock printers / scanners / etc that work perfectly with linux.08:04
[pyro] pollyo: that way you would have to go "researching" a device to see if it worked in linux or not before you got it.08:04
pollyo[pyro] : As long as you aren't selling to people who want the latest hardware supported you should be fine.08:04
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sstchurDoes anyone know of a screencast recording app?  I tried istanbul, but its dependencies seem to be incompatible with edgy -- i've never been able to successfully install it08:05
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intelikeyaaron_ [pyro]  and pollyo   maybe it would be better to just use a compiled list of hardware that have "known issues" with linux.   and advise people to avoid them.08:06
aaron_yea08:06
aaron_I dont know08:06
aaron_its an idea08:06
pollyointelikey: Would the list of supported or unsupported be longer?08:06
intelikeysupported08:07
pollyoGood.08:07
intelikeypollyo linux supports more hardware than any other os in the world08:07
pollyoI hope that is something that is being addressed daily.08:07
pollyointelikey: I didn't realize that.08:07
aaron_so wait if I upgraded the mobo and cpu would this still work right08:09
aaron_or am I gonna have to reinstall this distro08:09
aaron_I know you have to on windows08:09
aaron_just wondering if it is true for linux as well08:09
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intelikeypollyo my installed kernel without "restricted modules" supports over 1797 different classes of hardware08:10
intelikeyaaron_ as long as the bios can find the boot loader and the boot loader can find the system root   you are fine.08:10
aaron_cool try upgrading something like a mobo in windows08:11
aaron_watch what happens08:11
pollyointelikey: I suppose linux being so scalable makes that possible.08:11
aaron_lol08:11
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intelikeyaaron_ depends on the specific version.   older windows had no problem with that.08:12
aaron_oh08:12
aaron_well yea so I think tommorow I will throw in this old p4 1.8 into here and hope that works08:12
intelikeypre-2000 could handle an upgrade pretty well08:13
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aaron_yea08:13
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intelikeyold p4   almost sounds ironic08:13
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aaron_this guy sent me a message08:15
aaron_ok heres what he wanted to do08:15
aaron_he wanted to use wine to install his aol automatic internet config software onto his ubuntu box08:16
aaron_so that way he could use aol to connect his ubuntu box to his 56k08:16
aaron_so I told him that he didnt need that and it wouldnt work if he did08:16
aaron_then he like got all rude08:16
aaron_but I was right though08:17
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aaron_I mean installing some aol crap under wine to automatically configure the internet information wont work right08:17
aaron_because it would suck if I was wrong08:17
aaron_then I would have to apologize to the guy08:18
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intelikeydon't apologize,  just tell him that linux is not for him, and he should stick with something he can use.       that normally makes them mad enough to fix their linux box just to spite you...      it's like saying to a little child "don't spill that"      you know if you say it they will.08:20
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aaron_yea but I am pretty sure that you cant use a configuration utility designed for windows to configure linux08:21
flacciddoes apt-get require any other ports besides 80 ?08:21
intelikeyprolly ftp   idk08:21
intelikeyoh it's not https is it ?08:22
intelikeyflaccid tell me the command to check what ports are in use and i'll answer08:23
ffffucan i apt-get the openoffice 2.1 newest version?08:23
flaccidintelikey: netstat -a ?08:24
flaccididk?08:24
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Betzefertry synaptic08:26
Betzeferffffu08:26
Betzefertry synaptic08:26
Betzeferor just download08:26
ffffuyeah i'm downloading but its in rpm08:26
ffffushd i use alien to make deb?08:26
ffffui mean.. can i?08:26
Betzeferi think yes08:27
Betzeferdid u tried the debian site ?08:27
ffffucouldn't find the debian one.....in the official website08:27
Betzeferohh08:27
Betzeferwhat about synaptic ?08:27
ffffui would use apt-get but then it only install the 2.0 version or something08:27
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Betzeferwww.google.com <-- Synaptic08:28
Betzeferits the Best !08:28
Betzeferit has everything !08:28
ffffuwhat's synaptic?08:29
ffffu!synaptic08:29
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto08:29
ffffuic.. ssame as adept-package manager?08:29
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Betzeferits like aptget just better08:29
[StingRay] Hi all. Can somebody give me basic directions on configuring a PCMCIA wireless?08:30
ffffuwhy is it better?08:30
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Betzeferyes but better08:31
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ffffu[StingRay] : lspcmcia to see what model first08:31
intelikeyflaccid it doesn't look like it does.08:32
flaccidsweet thanks08:32
intelikeyit's all tcp and standard http  (port 80)    best i can tell08:32
[StingRay] ffffu I want to have some knowledge before I go to the shop with my laptop. I intend to purchase Netgear WG511T which should work out of the box. If lspcmcia lists it, what then?08:33
intelikeyok i'm went08:33
[StingRay] ffffu, how do I set it up?08:33
ffffuprobably get the driver and install08:33
ffffu!wireless08:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:33
[StingRay] thanks ffffu08:33
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ffffuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear08:35
ffffusearch for your model and there's a howto there..08:35
[StingRay] ffffu, I already checked this :)08:35
ffffu=)08:35
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sstchur_how do I resolve the fact that when I request to install something through adept, it insists on "no change" ?08:36
ffffuno change?08:36
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Betzeferdont mine it08:37
Betzefermind08:37
Betzeferthats fine08:37
Betzefertry in broken pacages08:37
sstchur_ffffu: got me.... I right click and say "request install" and under the requested column it says "no change"08:37
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Betzeferreinstalling it08:37
ffffudid u click on Update changes ?08:38
sstchur_ffffu: where is that? I don't see it08:38
ffffui mean Apply changes (at the top) if u are talking about adept manager08:38
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ffffu3rd button from the left08:38
sstchur_ffffu: no, it's grayed out08:39
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ffffusstchur_: think u need to select the package, click on Request Install after u click the package08:39
ffffusstchur_: after that "Apply change" will light up08:39
sstchur_ffffu: I don't think that's it... if I try sudo apt-get install istanbul (which is what I'm trying to install through adept), I get "Package istanbul has no installation candidate"08:40
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[pyro] does anyone know anything about via chipsets stuffing up raid?08:41
ffffuhmm did u do sudo apt-get update first?08:41
ffffusudo apt-get update08:41
sstchur_ffffu: I didn't, but lemme try that quick08:41
ffffualright08:41
ffffuafter update, try again08:41
sstchur_ffffu: didn't seem to make a difference08:42
sstchur_ffffu: "08:42
sstchur_Package istanbul is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:42
sstchur_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:42
sstchur_is only available from another source08:42
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ffffu!paste08:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:43
ffffucould u paste your /etc/apt/sources.list ?08:43
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sstchur_ffffu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12114/08:45
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ffffuk reading08:46
sstchur_ffffu: I also have  .deb file of istanbul, and when I try that, I get a bunch of dependency errors saying istanbul requires libxml2 >= 2.6.27, but libxml2 2.6.26 is currently installed08:46
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sstchur_ffffu: which I don't get... why doesn't it just update to 2.6.27... I'd be fine with that08:46
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ffffuooo did u apt-get upgrade ? may take a long time08:46
sstchur_ffffu: I'm not sure... i'm afraid to do any upgrades... eariler today I tried to upgrade from edgy to feisty and it didn't go well... so I wiped my systems and reinstalled edgy08:47
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ffffuerr08:48
ffffusstchur_: could u uncomment those08:48
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ffffuthose lines that start with deb08:48
ffffuline 16,17,26,27,31,3208:48
ffffuand try apt-get update08:48
sstchur_ffffu: when I try sudo apt-get upgrade... I get "the following packages have unmet dependencies:"  and istanbul is listed along with libxml2 and gstreamer08:48
ffffusstchur_: hmm u try uncomment those lines in your sources.list and update again.. and tr tyagain..08:49
sstchur_ffffu: which lines?08:50
ffffusstchur_: line 16,17,26,27,31,32 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12114/08:50
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sstchur_ffffu: what will that do?08:51
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ffffusstchur_: so that  after you apt-get update , it fetches the correct list from repository08:52
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sstchur_ffffu: I'm confused...aren't lines with # commented out already?08:54
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cafreamorosoalguien de mexico08:56
ffffusstchur_: sorry i mean uncomment08:56
ffffusstchur_: means remove the #08:56
cafreamoroso08:56
cafreamorosohello anybody from mexico08:56
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sstchur_ffffu: I'll try... last shot, then I'm going to bed08:57
cafreamorosohow can i turn on intel 845 acceleration?08:58
ffffusstchur_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12115/08:58
ffffulike that08:58
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sstchur_ffffu: running upgrade now09:00
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ffffusstchur_: pray it work hehe09:01
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sstchur_ffffu: ok, that finished.... i guess I try istanbul again?09:02
sstchur_ffffu: ah! excellent.. thanks!09:03
ffffuyeah09:03
ffffutry it09:03
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ffffuhaha!09:03
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raffytaffyhello09:04
ins-dragonclawhi09:04
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ins-dragonclawhmmm ... 3am09:06
Betzeferyo raffy sup ?09:06
eth01is bitlbee on kbuntu?09:06
dwidmannyep09:06
eth01hmm09:06
eth01i tried apt-get09:06
eth01no package09:06
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dwidmann3am ... and my coffee is wearing off09:06
ins-dragonclawgo to bed09:07
dwidmannor I could just get more coffee09:07
ins-dragonclawyou can't force your body to run on fumes09:07
Betzeferin israel is 9 am so09:07
Betzeferi had allready slept !09:07
dwidmannYes I can. Whether it's good for me or not is another matter09:07
Betzeferha ha ha ha09:07
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ins-dragonclawit's 9am here too09:07
Betzeferwhere ?09:07
ins-dragonclawI woke up at 6.30, but went to bed at 3.3009:07
kintaro0ehi guys..how to play .mov files?09:07
ins-dragonclawso i've had 3 hours sleep in the last 36 hours09:08
ins-dragonclawBetzefer: South Africa09:08
Betzeferkint09:08
Betzeferwith Mplayer09:08
kintaro0e?09:08
kintaro0ekint is a plugin?09:08
paragAre there any legal issues in US with using any video players on Linux?09:08
ins-dragonclawno09:08
ins-dragonclawkint is the first 4 letters of your name09:08
ins-dragonclaw:)09:08
kintaro0e:)09:08
kintaro0ehaehae09:08
dwidmannmplayer should play at least some .mov files, might be hit & miss though09:08
cafreamoroso#hack09:08
ins-dragonclawparag: I don't know...09:09
dwidmannparag, well, might be some surrounding the codecs09:09
ins-dragonclawuse OGG09:09
paragINS-DRAGON, what is OGG? Is it supposed to not have legal problems?09:09
dwidmannins-dragonclaw: only problem with that solution is that not every website you go to is going to agree with that philosophy eh?09:10
ins-dragonclawOgg Vorbis is an open-source video and audio codec09:10
ffffuOMFG!!!!!!!!!!09:10
ins-dragonclawOo09:10
dwidmannffffu: eh?09:10
Jucatoeasy on the caps09:10
ffffumy openoffice's spell check works but only check those words in textbox !!!!! arghhhhhhhh09:10
ins-dragonclawparag - there are no legal issues with the ogg codec09:11
ins-dragonclawbut the content is another matter ;)09:11
paragINS-DRAGON, great!! You have been very helpful! thanks09:11
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ins-dragonclawdwidmann: recode everything to ogg and keep quiet about it... but that won't remove material copyright09:11
ins-dragonclawbesides - OGG is better09:12
ins-dragonclawparag: you're welcome09:12
ffffuwhy does it only check those words in textbox but not the rest of the documents?09:12
dwidmannins-dragonclaw: I buy anything I use anyway, so I don't really have that problem. Other content can be another matter though.09:12
ins-dragonclawmhmm09:12
dwidmannI recoded to ogg about a year ago :)09:13
ins-dragonclawlol\09:13
ins-dragonclawffffu: which textbox?09:13
ffffuthe.. draw tool textbox09:13
ins-dragonclawthe spellchecker should run through the entire document09:13
ins-dragonclawohh...09:14
ins-dragonclawclick outside the textbox when running the spellchecker09:14
ffffuyeah i had been trying to figure out why all 3 sets of installation of edgy can't spell check09:14
ins-dragonclawif that doesn't work then I can't help09:14
ffffuand discover it does check but only those textbox09:14
ins-dragonclawwell, i don't use textboxes :)09:14
ins-dragonclawheck, i don't even use OOr09:14
ins-dragonclawOOo*09:14
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ins-dragonclaw:)09:15
frojndhello there:09:16
frojndCould not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:16
frojndE: Unable to lock the list directory09:16
ins-dragonclawoh09:16
frojndwhat can I do to update sources?09:16
ins-dragonclawthat one again09:16
frojnd:>09:16
dwidmanncan't run multiple apt-using programs at the same time frojnd09:16
ins-dragonclawi think it's apt-get update09:16
ins-dragonclawyeah - the database only allows one process at a time09:16
frojndins-dragonclaw: ur right :)09:16
frojndins-dragonclaw: I restarted X09:17
frojndins-dragonclaw: and try again to update, but with the same massage09:17
dwidmannerm, if you don't have more than one process running, but it says it anyway, try this09:17
Jucato!adeptfix | frojnd09:17
ubotufrojnd: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:17
dwidmann!adeptfix09:17
Jucato:p09:17
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frojndnice :>09:17
ins-dragonclawfrojnd: X is the GUI interface, it's got nothing to do with apt-get09:17
ins-dragonclawtry "ps -A | grep apt"09:18
frojndoh..09:18
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frojndI live in lies09:18
ins-dragonclawif something comes up, then there is another apt process running09:18
frojndcan't09:18
Jucatoactually, X is the windowing system. the GUI interface is the desktop environment/window manager...09:18
frojndI was able to upgrade anyway..09:18
ins-dragonclawmy bad...09:18
dwidmannfrojnd: the above fuser command should take care of that really09:18
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ins-dragonclawthanks for correcting me, Jucato09:18
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Jucatonp :)09:18
ins-dragonclawnow what's the command to make someone on Kopete talk to you?09:19
ins-dragonclawsudo force <name> chat ?09:19
ins-dragonclaw:P09:19
Jucatoheh09:19
frojndins-dragonclaw: this or sudo make <very nice picture>09:20
ins-dragonclawmore like sudo set <name> chat --Jedi-mind-trick09:21
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ffffuOMG!! i found out what's wrong09:22
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ins-dragonclawI hate it when people don't answer their phones09:24
ins-dragonclaw:/09:24
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MuJI hate it when people call me when I can't answer the phone and never call me again09:24
ins-dragonclawouch09:25
dwidmann$FRIEND = [insert friend name here] ; if ( `kdialog --inputbox "Say 'okay' to talk now $FRIEND, or else."` == "okay") then echo "hurray"; else kill -9 friend; endif;    ???????09:25
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ins-dragonclawok that is bad09:25
MuJwell.. obviously they're call wasn't too important then :P09:25
ins-dragonclaw.... with code like that, you could always just hack and recompile the Matrix09:25
ins-dragonclawshould make things easier :)09:25
MuJtheir*09:25
dwidmannhehe09:26
ins-dragonclawI like the kill -9 friend pasrt09:26
ins-dragonclawpart* :|09:27
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ins-dragonclawI'd just let them off with a warning09:27
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ins-dragonclawpreferably paint their desktop environments with smileyfaces that only go away when they pay me09:27
dwidmanncould have wrote it like that, but then it would have lost its punch09:27
dwidmannhehehe, brilliantly evil09:27
tuxhi all!!09:27
ins-dragonclawand profitable ;)09:28
firecrotchHi, tux09:28
ins-dragonclawoh i'm so tempted...09:28
ins-dragonclawit sucks being tempted this way.....09:28
ins-dragonclaw:/09:28
dwidmann>:) guess I'm a bad influence09:29
ins-dragonclawno not you09:29
ins-dragonclawlol09:29
ins-dragonclawwipe that really distorted emoticon off your face09:29
ins-dragonclaw:D09:29
tuxI have a directory with several songs and I want to create a MP3 Cd. I need to rename all files to 1.mp3 , 2.mp3, etc... can you help me making a shell script?09:29
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ins-dragonclawI think i'll resist this temptation. I don't want to start another fire09:30
ins-dragonclawtux: are the files in mp3 format already?09:30
tuxthis isn't the problem09:30
frojndtux: what's the format of files09:30
dwidmanntux, krename could work well09:30
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ins-dragonclawwell, in terms of difficulty (for me) : Assembly code > Perl, so don't ask me09:31
tux75% mp3s and 25%oggs09:31
ins-dragonclawPerl - for reference - is somewhere near the bottom of the list of things I can't do09:31
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dwidmannin fact, krename would work very well09:31
tuxwith mp3321 i'll convert them09:31
tuxsudo apt-get install krename09:32
tuxdone09:32
tuxuse simplyfied interface...09:33
tuxthanks...09:33
tux;-)09:33
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tuxthis channel is useful!09:34
aaron_well ive given up on gaming on this pc09:34
dwidmannhehe, you're welcome tux09:34
aaron_so does the 7.04 beta of ubuntu upgrade the kernel09:34
MuJyes09:34
aaron_cool09:34
aaron_to what09:34
MuJ2.6.2009:34
aaron_cool09:35
aaron_I think I will get it09:35
sonoftheclayrhey all, i took my laptop to school last week for a presentation and the projecter would just show a heap of garbled mess in x but when it was in shell or not in x it would display it perfectly, what is the quick and easy way to set up x for a projector?09:35
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MuJthat reminds me... I need to get s-video cable :|09:36
tuxsonoftheclayr: you connect the projector in VGA exit?09:36
sonoftheclayrtux: huh? i just connected it to the normal moniter output is that it?09:36
tuxsonoftheclayr: yes09:37
wolferinelooking for someone to help troubleshoot my partition problems.  I have two /home and mnt/hda5 that I am trying to copy files between, but i am having my system freeze, after about 5-10GBs are copied... I am copying large files (as its my back up)09:38
makithe window behavior page is empty09:38
tuxsonoftheclayr: have you tried in K/System settings (or similar, i have italian locale)/monitor & display?09:38
makii run autoremove before that09:39
sonoftheclayryeah, i changed that to clone screen just then, i don't have a projecter here but it just resized my screen to 800x60009:39
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tuxsonoftheclayr: how about using a second monitor as projector so you can do experiments?09:40
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daftmananyone here got the latest kernel working with nvidia?09:41
sonoftheclayryeah, i just need to get one out and plug it in09:41
daftman2.6.20-13-generic?09:41
tuxdaftman: all kernels works with nvidia!09:42
daftmantux: nope it doesn't09:42
daftmantux: i got the 2.6.20-13-generic working09:42
daftman*i mean the 20-11-generic working09:43
daftmanbut with the x.20-12-generic and the x.20-13-generic my X11 doesn't work09:43
daftmanat least not with the current nvidia-glx09:44
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Jucatodaftman: it's an issue with the latest kernel updates for Feisty. #ubuntu+109:45
daftmanJucato: yes you are right. It is also an issue with the kernel update for edgy this time last year as well09:45
tmbgnvidia-glx works fine for me in 2.6.17-11, haven't tried newer kernels yet.09:46
Jucatodaftman: basically, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-13-generic is missing so you won't be able to use nvidia-glx which relies on that. in the mean time, don't boot into that kernel09:46
Jucatotmbg: you won't be able to anyway. the problem is only on feisty :)09:46
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tmbgyou can't run newer t han .17 on edgy?09:47
daftmanJucato: yep I am not booting into that kernel, but I can't get even get the linux-headers-2.6.20-11-generic anymore09:47
MuJtmbg: of course you can... might need some fiddling though09:48
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Jucatotmbg: not without compiling them yourself09:48
_eMaX_re09:48
_eMaX_can we mount a .tar.gz via loop directly?09:48
daftmantmbg: can you sitll get the headers for the x.20-11-generic?09:48
Jucatodaftman: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-11-generic ?09:48
tmbgalready compiled 2.6.17-14 myself. :P09:48
daftmanJucato: I have it. I can't get the header source file for it09:48
tmbghaven't tried booting it yet though09:48
tmbgdaftman, haven't tried.09:49
Jucatodaftman: why do you need that? you used the installer from nvidia.com?09:49
Jucatotmbg: then you can compile 2.6.20 if you want/need to09:49
CarinArrdaftman: you might have to get the drivers from nvidia09:49
Jucato(I think...)09:49
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daftmanJucato: I am trying to build kqemu09:50
CarinArrrather than use nvidia-glx09:50
CarinArr(regarding you saying they don't work)09:50
daftmanthe latest header source file is x.20-12-generic and x.20-13-generic09:50
Jucatodaftman: ok... linux-headers-2.6.20-11-generic?09:50
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daftmanJucato: yep the headers and source for it so I can build kqemu module09:51
flaccid!find webmin09:51
ubotuFile webmin found in debian-edu-config, insserv, logcheck-database09:52
Jucato!webmin | flaccid09:52
ubotuflaccid: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.09:52
flaccidinteresting09:52
Jucatodaftman: you can't install that? (gave the exact package name)09:52
flaccidJucato: is there an alternative ?09:52
Jucatodaftman: because I still have it installed on my system (2.6.20-11 headers)09:52
Jucatoflaccid: don't really know09:52
flaccidnp09:53
daftmanyea you sitll have the headers instalkl09:53
daftmanI don't09:53
daftmanand I am trying to get it back09:53
ffffu!scim09:53
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM09:53
daftmanso I only have the latest headers in the apt repository09:54
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Jucatodaftman: how about trying to use the -20 kernel, modules, and headers instead?09:55
Jucatoer sorry -1209:55
daftmanJucato: good idea il try that.09:55
Jucato2.6.20-1209:55
Jucatoit seems to have a complete set09:55
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daftmanJucato: -12 break nvidia as well09:58
daftmanJucato: only -11-generic seems to work09:58
Jucatoyou did install the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-12-generic package too right?09:58
daftmanyep09:58
daftmaneverything the whole shebang09:59
Jucatostrange. I'm using that kernel now09:59
ffffuwhy doesn't scim work? ihave it running but ctrl-space doesn't turn on chinese input09:59
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Jucato /cmd uname -r09:59
Jucatooops10:00
Jucato2.6.20-12-generic10:00
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daftmanyep i couldn't get on X with either -12-generic or -13-generic10:00
daftmanonly -11-generic works10:00
Jucatowell -13 is a known issue...10:00
Jucatoreally strange... #ubuntu+1 might be of more help10:01
CarinArris this just with nvidia-glx or with all nvidia drivers?10:01
daftmanit has nothing to do with nvidia-glx10:01
Jucatodaftman: might be helpful if you try to type "startx" and get the error messages10:01
daftmanCarinArr: it just that the later kernel doesn't work for kubuntu10:01
CarinArroh10:02
daftmanJucato: yea I did, it got something like nvidia modules cannot be loaded10:02
daftmanscreen exist but cannot find anything usuable10:02
CarinArrer10:02
Jucatohm...10:02
CarinArrthat sounds like an nvidia error tho10:02
daftmanCarinArr well considering the nvidia hasn't changed I would have to say the kernel error10:03
Jucatodaftman: "apt-cache policy nvidia-glx", what is the installed version?10:03
CarinArrthat's beside the point tho10:03
daftman2.6.20.3-12.1110:03
ffffuhi... i've just installed openoffice 2.1 manually..it worked..but now when i use apt-get install something, it always say10:04
ffffuThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:10:04
ffffu  openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw10:04
ffffu  openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-calc10:04
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Jucatodaftman: try running "sudo nvidia-xconfig" again10:04
daftmanversion 1.0.963110:04
ffffuand if i apt-get autoremove , it will remove my OOo 2.110:04
ffffuhow to stop apt-get from doing that10:04
AmyRose!paste | ffffu10:06
ubotuffffu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:06
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ffffu!thanks |10:07
ubotu: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)10:07
AmyRoselol10:08
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ffffubrb10:08
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lenscape!popularity-contest10:11
ubotupopularity-contest: Vote for your favourite packages automatically. In component main, is standard. Version 1.33ubuntu2.3 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 212 kB10:11
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lenscapedoes anyone actually run popularity-contest? Are you happy to be snooped on?10:17
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cpk1far as I know its off by default10:19
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kRushit's no bad thing for linux newbies10:20
lenscapeit does seem to be off on my system10:20
cpk1so then you arent being snooped on10:20
lenscapeno. *I'm* not but does anyone actually turn it on?10:21
kRushsnooped? in what sense?10:21
lenscapeI doubt any newbie would10:21
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tulgacan I install ubuntu on my XDA Atom pocket PC? or suggest me any distribution for pocket pc?10:21
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Tm_Tis there any reason to not turn it on?10:21
Tm_Tjono: hi (:10:22
lenscapetulga: there are several Linuxes for pocket PCs10:22
Tm_Ttulga: I assume that pocket pc uses some kind of ARM cpu so I'd say if Familiar Linux has that device in database10:23
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tulgaok10:23
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Tm_Ttulga: wait a second, I'll give you some url10:24
tulgaok thanks10:24
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Tm_Ttulga: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary10:25
kRushlenscape, mind to explain on how this invades ones privacy?10:25
lenscapetulga: I was going to recommend handhelds.org but it seems to be a bit broken at the moment10:25
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Tm_Tlenscape: it always is ;)10:25
lenscapestill stuff on there, though10:26
Tm_Tyes10:26
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lenscapetulga: I put Linux on my iPaq and it has been fantastic. A new lease of life for the old brick.10:27
sonoftheclayris there such thing as a command line video player or am i making stuff up?10:27
Tm_Tsonoftheclayr: there is10:27
lenscapesonoftheclayr: there is10:28
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Tm_Tsonoftheclayr: mplayer can play videos in text mode :)10:28
lenscapesonoftheclayr: mplayer has a command line interface, iirc10:28
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Tm_Teven show them in ascii10:28
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sonoftheclayrthanks10:28
lenscapebut if you just want to start a video from a command prompt, just about any will do that10:29
Tm_Tsonoftheclayr: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/ASCII-Movie-01.png (you can see some hint how it works in one of terminals there)10:29
lenscapeTm_T: blimey! What's the frame rate like?10:30
gaehi guys, I hae a problem with KDE10:30
Tm_Tlenscape: depends10:30
gaeyesterday I installed kubuntu and the nVidia drivers10:30
Tm_Tlenscape: with that level of detail it's slower10:31
gaeall was fine, rebooted and so on, but today I restarted and KDE didn't want to load10:31
lenscapegae: is X starting?10:31
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Tm_Tgae: but you get KDM (login screen) right?10:31
gaeI get the login on black terminal like screen10:32
gaeno desktop like screen10:32
Tm_TI see10:32
gaeright now I'm in with the live CD10:33
tulgathanks guys10:33
_4str1!feisty10:33
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)10:33
Tm_Tgae: well, "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" might give us some hint what was happened10:33
tulgalenscape: not support XDA Atom?10:34
gaelike I said, I'm on live CD and it didn't mount my HD10:34
Tm_Tgae: hmm, can you mount it searately? it should be icon in desktop10:35
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gaehow do I do that?10:37
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Tm_Tgae: there is HD icons in desktop, right?10:38
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raffytaffythis bug is driving me nuts10:39
Tm_TNuts!10:39
raffytaffyhi Tm_T10:39
raffytaffyok get this ; i have 6.10 and 7.04 installed10:39
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raffytaffywhen i boot into 7.04 .....then logoff...and boot into 6.10...my time is switched +5 hours10:40
raffytaffylol10:40
Tm_Tgnomefreak: hi10:40
gnomefreakTm_T: hi10:40
Tm_Traffytaffy: other one thinks hwclock is UTC and other thinks it's in local time10:41
raffytaffywell thats just great lol10:41
AJIEXAXXXhi all10:41
raffytaffyhi10:42
AJIEXAXXXI install kubuntu from synaptic  on ubuntu and I want full remove ubuntu10:42
raffytaffysome refresh my memory : mke2fs -j /dev/sda makes ext3 right10:42
AJIEXAXXXis this real ?10:42
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hwI didn't know that ubuntu collects information like microsoft windows update. This package is called popularity-contest and, to be honest, it is disabled on my system. But anyway I really dont like such spyware!10:43
Tm_Tit's not spyware10:44
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hwIs not? It is a software to improve users experience?10:45
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raffytaffyits to collect data on which apps are most used..i think10:45
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hwraffytaffy: Correct, it collects this information with unique ID, Like Microsft Windows Update10:46
Ryiel!iso10:46
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.10:46
Tm_Thw: unique ID ?10:46
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tmbgyeah I don't think it uses a unique ID.10:46
tmbgit's just a counter.10:46
beremcan anyone help me about the beryl-manager10:46
AJIEXAXXXwow ... ca i remove this package ???10:46
raffytaffyi think it uses ver # name of app10:46
fithouis there any Vietnamese here ?10:47
AJIEXAXXXI can help10:47
hwTm_T: Yes, /etc/popularity-contest.conf: MY_HOSTID. Which is unique10:47
JucatoThe popularity-contest package sets up a cron job that will periodically anonymously submit to the Ubuntu developers statistics about the most used Ubuntu packages on this system.This information helps us making decisions such as which packages should go on the first CD. It also lets us improve future versions of Ubuntu so that the most popular packages are the ones which are installed automatically for new users http://popcon.ubuntu.com/10:47
Tm_TJucato: good evening (:10:47
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Jucato(from apt-cache show popularity-contest)10:47
beremeven if beryl is installed I can 't start10:48
raffytaffyi would like to see a *buntu install cd. meaning just cli without DM10:48
JucatoTm_T: good afternoon :)10:48
Jucatoraffytaffy: use the Alternate Install CD10:48
raffytaffyis that what that is Jucato?10:48
Jucatoraffytaffy: and choose "Install a command-line system"10:48
Tm_Traffytaffy: server install or alternate10:48
Jucato!alternate | raffytaffy10:48
uboturaffytaffy: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.10:48
raffytaffyyeah i thought about lamp install10:48
hwJucato: Where is difference to Windows Update? They collecting information about my system.10:48
Jucatofor LAMP installs, use the Server CD10:48
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tmbghw, if you're so worried about it, just don't use it10:49
Jucatohw: 1) you can turn it off. 2) it's open source. 3) it's not Microsoft10:49
raffytaffylol10:49
firecrotchhw: The difference is that Microsoft doesn't say what information they collect, nor do they publish the results10:49
raffytaffyM$ collect wga info to find pirated software10:49
raffytaffybuntu does not10:49
AJIEXAXXXman with beryl - I can give  umanual file10:49
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raffytaffyhi firecrotch10:50
firecrotchif you really want to know what information is being collected, just take a look at the source for the package10:50
firecrotchhi, raffytaffy!10:50
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AJIEXAXXXhere the manual for Beryl http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX10:50
hwtmbg: I said it is disabled on my system :)10:50
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AJIEXAXXXI install like in that doc - It's working for me10:51
JucatoI don't know windows update that much, but I presume that would be comparable to Adept Notifier+Updater more...10:51
tmbgthen I don't understand the problem.10:51
raffytaffyi must confess. i try xgl with compiz when it first came out last year. i use it for 30 mins till i develop migraine. last time i used accelerated desktop10:51
AJIEXAXXXanyone know how to remove ubuntu ????10:51
Jucatoberem: try asking in #ubuntu-effects or #beryl10:51
JucatoAJIEXAXXX: try http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde10:52
frojndis opera on feisty's sources list?10:52
firecrotchfrojnd:  It's in the commercial repository10:52
hwtmbg: It starts like microsoft. And from version to version it collects more and more information10:52
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Tm_Thw: haven't done it yet, I wonder why it should do that10:52
Tm_Thw: and oh, it's opensource, so you can take and look what it does10:53
tmbgyou're always going to be able to view the source, you're always going to have a choice on whether or not you want to run it.10:53
raffytaffyi wish buntu had something like apparmor (and if it does im not aware of it)10:53
Jucatoraffytaffy: what's apparmor?10:53
AJIEXAXXX<Jucato> WOW :) this is cool  - THX but is it cafuly ??? :)10:54
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raffytaffysecurity app10:54
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raffytaffyapplication security via mandatory access control for programs10:54
AJIEXAXXX<Jucato> oh yes i forgot ... I want to remove ubuntu but i did't want remove OO10:55
Jucatoraffytaffy: ah... that I wouldn't know.. but doesn't the default Linux permission system (for non-sudoers) cover that too?10:55
hwTm_T: Correct, but I havent been told that there is such software... So it is more or less hidden from users. Indeed it is opensource thank god it is opensource =)10:55
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raffytaffyyes10:55
JucatoAJIEXAXXX: it shouldn't remove it10:55
raffytaffybut10:55
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Tm_Thw: err, have we said there's apps that does track your internet usage?10:56
raffytaffyit can control specfic behavior / aspect of a given program10:56
raffytaffyhttp://www.novell.com/linux/security/apparmor/10:56
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Jucatoah... novell...10:56
raffytaffywell im not a fan of novell myself10:57
raffytaffybut its a good app imo10:57
AJIEXAXXX<Jucato> ok thx ... this is good, I'l try it10:57
Tm_Thw: btw that was joke, no need to panic10:57
Jucatoraffytaffy: if it's open source, then there might already be some version floating around10:57
raffytaffyi find this so far10:58
raffytaffyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor10:58
JucatoTm_T: you forgot to include a ':)' or a [/sarcasm]  ... your joke wasn't that obvious :)10:58
firecrotchJucato: Ewww... BBcode10:59
Tm_TJucato: well, I do tell jokes with serious face... :/10:59
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JucatoTm_T: oh... no wonder people don't laugh at your jokes :)10:59
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Tm_TJucato: laugh? what's that?10:59
firecrotch!offtopic11:00
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:00
Jucato:)11:00
firecrotch:P11:00
Tm_Tfirecrotch: (:11:00
sasqhmm I just noticed that menues in KDE (so I guess QT) is kind of broken. If you enter a submenu in an area where there are no items, the menu closes again, at least if a previous menu is behind it...11:01
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sasqtrying to change Encoding in konsole using the Right mbutton menu, and I cant reach the last menu11:01
_4strOyop yop11:02
sasqactually only applies if you dont keep RMB pressed, but click your way through the menues...11:02
sasqor no, it doesnt... very very annoying11:03
sasqI have to do the initial right click in a "good" position so that the menues align in such a way that the last menu does not cover a previous menu11:04
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frojndwould this work if I change edgy into feisty: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main11:05
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Jucatofrojnd: feisty-commercial is currently empty11:05
anti_popcan someone explain me how to downgrade nvidia-glx from 9755 to 9631 ?11:06
frojndso I have install usgink dpkg -l .deb ?11:06
anti_popthe new one in the repos doesnt support my geforce 411:06
Jucatofrojnd: what are you trying to install?11:06
firecrotchJucato: I thought Opera was in there11:06
frojndopera11:06
frojndJucato.11:06
Jucatoah. you can probably use edgy-commercial even if you're on feisty... probably...11:07
frojndah11:07
frojndok11:07
frojndlemme try11:07
frojndwha is with driver repostiorys..11:08
frojndwill nvidia-glx work for my nvidia fx5500 on feisty?11:08
Jucatoit works for my GeForce4 MX4000 :)11:09
gaehaving post installation troubles with my nvidia drivers11:09
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gaeKDE didn't wanna start11:09
frojndJuato: I am not that experianced with drivers, how to accelerate to max nvidia? are the repos enough or I should download .deb from nvidia official page?11:10
tmbgworks on my geforce 7800 gtx.11:10
tmbgnot sure what an fx5500 is all about11:10
gaereplaced my newest xorg.config with an old one11:10
tmbgmine worked fine w/ just the nvidia-glx from the repos.11:10
gaenow I got KDE back, but my nVidia don't work11:10
frojndtmbg: ru on feisty?11:11
tmbgedgy11:11
raffytaffyi use nvidia installer11:11
gaeI used the envy....11:12
frojndraffytaffy: light me11:12
gaean older version since the new one made a mess too11:12
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raffytaffylight u?11:12
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frojndraffytaffy: yes how did u done that11:12
raffytaffyahh ok11:13
frojndraffytaffy: used nvidia installer11:13
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anti_popJucato, nvidia-glx version 9755 will stop working for you11:13
raffytaffyhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html11:13
Jucatoanti_pop: I'm only using the one for the repos11:13
anti_popyup check that version11:13
anti_popits 9631, today they updated it to 9755 (in feisty)11:13
Jucatoyeah, I'm using the 9631 version11:13
anti_popand that one has no support for geforce411:14
Jucatooh well :)11:14
anti_popso dont update this one :D11:14
Jucatoyeah the last version I can use is 963111:14
anti_popi did, cause i didnt know11:14
raffytaffyi have 975511:14
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anti_popraffytaffy, but a card newer than gf411:15
raffytaffythey have legacy drivers on nvidia page too11:15
anti_pophttp://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html11:15
AJIEXAXXXI do this command and remove Ubuntu!!! :)11:15
anti_popyeah, fun for geforce 411:15
anti_pop*211:15
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raffytaffyi have a crappy nvidia go 660011:15
anti_popgeforce 4 is 440011:16
gaeI have a XFX 7600 GT11:16
gaeand followed the envy recipie11:16
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raffytaffythis is laptop so i cant have a fancy 1gig nvidia11:16
gaebut it didn't seem to work11:16
AJIEXAXXXE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)  - what it mean ????11:16
raffytaffydpkg-reconfigure -a11:17
Jucato!adeptfix11:17
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:17
raffytaffyif its locked perhaps updater doin its thing11:18
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gaewhat if I have things requiring update that keep on asking to be updated?11:20
raffytaffyso update them?11:20
gaedid it...about 10 times11:20
raffytaffythat is very strange11:20
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gaek3b and libk3b2 require update regardless11:22
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gillohi11:32
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pollyoHello11:33
pollyoI'm doing an install within qemu on windows.  It is a bit sluggish.11:34
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eXistenZHello, does kubuntu usually auto-mount the other ntfs partitions in the HDD?11:35
MuJother.. than?11:36
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eXistenZMuJ: ?11:36
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MuJyes, other ntfs partitions.. so it mounts one now?11:37
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raffytaffy /media/hda#11:38
eXistenZMuJ: Not really. When I install kubuntu I usually found them automounted in /media/ . Now I cannot find them =x11:38
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eXistenZI wonder why they haven't been auto-mounted.11:38
raffytaffyeXistenZ : check your fstab11:38
MuJ:|11:38
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MuJeXistenZ is wierd movie btw :P11:39
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eXistenZraffytaffy: They aren't listed in fstab11:40
eXistenZraffytaffy: Aren't they usually auto-listed?11:40
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raffytaffynot all the time. add them to fstab then11:40
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raffytaffyand make a dir for them to mount to11:40
raffytaffyi dont know what the entery should look like. i dont use M$11:40
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pleb123Hey can anyone helps me?11:42
raffytaffypleb123 : just ask question11:43
pleb123okiday11:43
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pleb123im trying to write a script to mount users home directorys, e.g. mount - t CIFS - o username=<user> //server/share /home/user/Desktop/mydocs11:44
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pleb123but you need to be root to mount shares11:44
pleb123:(11:44
pleb123and i dont want the users to be root11:44
eXistenZMuJ: Do you have ntfs partitions?11:44
pleb123for obv reasons11:44
pleb123on my win2k3 server ys, on my lin... no :P11:44
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starterhello friends, could you please tell me how to edit the main KDE menu?11:45
raffytaffystarter :run command ; kcontrol11:45
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pleb123any way to mount without being root11:45
pleb123or to give mount access to a user?11:45
pleb123im imagining it has to do with something in FStab?11:46
starterah it is in "Panels" god damnit11:46
starterthanks!11:46
starterstay well11:46
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raffytaffyok lol11:46
pleb123raffytaffy: any  idea11:46
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raffytaffyperhaps http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-mounting-without-sudo/11:47
pleb123raffytaffy: readng ** :)11:47
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xinehi allllllll11:47
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pollyopleb123: I know you can mount according to uid in fstab.11:49
pollyopleb123:I suppose group as well.11:49
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pollyopleb123: I recall the information I was reading about mounting ntfs discussing these options.11:50
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pleb123pollyo im sure you can, somehow, but im worried as i will be using a script with variables11:51
pleb123e.g. username will chnage and as will password11:51
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pleb123pollyo : so i carnt put in  x = y .. e.g /dev/hda /mnt/disk1  ,,, its more like //server/"$username" /home/globallogon/Desktop/mydocs11:52
AJIEXAXXXhow i can remove one packade wich not removes ??? (gnomelibui-common)11:52
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pollyopleb123: in the file browser put #fstab11:54
pleb123pollyo: what do you mena?11:54
pleb123mean*11:54
eXistenZpollyo: Do you have ntfs partitions?11:54
pollyopleb123: It will give you some examples of the various settings for the fstab fields.11:55
AJIEXAXXXI have error whith remove some packade  - what I can do ????11:55
AJIEXAXXXI really want to delete it11:55
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pollyopleb123: In knonkerer or however they spell it.  Put #fstab in the address bar.11:55
pollyoeXistenZ: Yes.11:56
pleb123pollyo will try it now11:56
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eXistenZpollyo: Were they auto-mounted when you first installed kubuntu?11:57
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pollyoBRB11:58
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AJIEXAXXXhow i can delete package if it did't delete ????????11:58
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rbrunhuberAJIEXAXXX: What do you mean?11:59
oslohi11:59
rbrunhuberhi oslo11:59
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polly1Hello12:00
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polly1That other machine was to slow.12:00
metty_hi! how can i upgrade amarok pls?12:00
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pleb123apt-get remove "nameofpackage"12:01
pleb123??12:01
polly2I have ntfs12:01
polly2Ugg...12:01
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metty_pleb123:  was this to me?12:01
osloi'm on feisty & since 2.6.20-13 i've some problem with nvidia-glx, my card only support 1.0.9631 and i'ts trying to switch from nvidia-glx [1.0.9631+2.6.20.3-12.11]  TO (1.0.9755+2.6.20.4-13.12 Ubuntu:7.04/feisty) any ideas ?12:01
pleb123metty_ indeed12:01
osloi reboot right now i'll come back12:01
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polly1pleb123: Were you asking about ntfs earlier?12:02
metty_pleb123: u mean to remove and reinstall it?12:02
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pleb123polly1: can you not convert the FS with gparted? + knoppix?12:02
pleb123metty_: did you say you needed to remove a package?12:02
eXistenZCan anyone answer my simple question? :/12:03
polly1pleb123: I do not know about converting FS,12:03
pleb123polly1: still stuggling with mounting as not root12:03
metty_pleb123: no i said i need to upgrade one12:03
pleb123metty_ ah, my bad, sorry12:03
AJIEXAXXXhow I can delete package ?? - it not deleted12:03
pleb123AJIEXAXXX open console and type. sudo apt-get remove "packagename"12:04
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pleb123Can anyone help me with mounting a changing network drive locally without being root?12:04
eXistenZpleb123: Do you have ntfs partitions?12:05
pleb123eXistenZ, no why?12:05
metty_how can i upgrade amarok pls?12:05
polly1pleb123: You want to mount specific directories from the ntfs for each user or the entire partition?12:06
eXistenZpleb123: I would like to know whether the ntfs partitions are usually auto-mounted in /media/ right after the installation of kubuntu.12:06
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pleb123eXistenZ Not sure, but imn sure as hell they'll be mounted as readonly if they are12:07
polly1pleb123: Here is how I have my ntfs mounted in fstab:  /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 012:07
pleb123polly1 no12:07
eXistenZpleb123: mine weren't automatically mounted, what might be the reason?12:07
polly1pleb123: I'm mounting them read/write with ntfs-3g12:07
pleb123polly1 I want to log a machine on locally with a logon script which asks users for the windows domain and password and mounts there workarea to a folder on there desktop called mydocs12:08
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pleb123polly1 can i run a script as ROOT without giving said user root accesss?12:08
pleb123eXistenZ: im not sure, i dont think they will be mounted automaticall, if you can figure out the partition name you can mount it yourself tho12:09
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polly1pleb123: I'm not sure how it would work but I would be suprised if you couldn't do it.12:10
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pleb123polly1 :(  cheers for the help anyhow :)12:10
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pleb123polly1 i would use fstab but as the first directory changes, with the server address and usernamem, i carnt12:11
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pleb123Does anyone know how to run a script as root without giving the user root access?12:11
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naamuishow can i update my wine's Dx?12:13
eXistenZpleb123: still there?12:13
raffytaffybig problem12:14
raffytaffygparted refuses to work on my external12:15
Tm_Tnaamuis: by updating wine12:16
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naamuis:)12:17
naamuishow i do that?12:17
naamuis:D12:17
polly1pleb123: Looks like alot of interesting information in the man pages for mount and fstab12:17
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Tm_Tnaamuis: do "apt-cache policy wine" in terminal and tell what version does it say to be installed12:18
Tm_Tubotu: hi12:18
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ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:18
Tm_T(:12:18
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raffytaffyi forced cfdisk and it worked12:19
raffytaffybut dont do this ppl12:19
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Tm_Traffytaffy: still having fun?12:19
raffytaffyTm_T : i purchased a 250 gig seagate external12:19
raffytaffymistake #112:19
naamuiswhere can i get newer than 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 ?12:19
raffytaffythen tried to change it from ntfs to ext312:19
raffytaffymistake #212:20
Tm_T!wine | naamuis12:20
ubotunaamuis: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:20
raffytaffybrb gotta reboot12:20
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polly1pleb123: Does samba do what you are attempting to do?12:22
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osloso the new nvidia-glx ( 1.0.9733 ) doesn't work for me and with 1.0.9631 i can start with nvidia on 2.6.20-12 but not on 2.6.20-13 ...12:22
osloi have an old graphic card: geforce4 mx 44012:23
polly1pleb123: This link appears to discuss what you wanted to do a but and it uses samba in the example: http://mozillaquest.com/Linux02/LinNeighborhood_Network_Neighborhood_Story-01.html12:24
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naamuisi updated my wine and it didn't work :(12:25
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Tm_Tnaamuis: what doesn't work?12:26
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Tm_Toslo: can you try nvidia-legacy drivers?12:26
naamuisEntropia :D12:26
Tm_Tnaamuis: hmm, I wonder if that is in "should work" list12:26
naamuis:)12:26
naamuisentropia universe12:27
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naamuiswhere i can find the list?12:27
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Tm_Tnaamuis: http://appdb.winehq.org/12:28
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osloTm_T> i did , doesn t work on 2.6.20-1312:28
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osloright now i'm using /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.9631+2.6.20.3-12.11_i386.de on 2.6.20-1212:31
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Tm_Toslo: hmm, nasty12:31
rbrunhuberoslo: what is the output in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?12:31
Tm_Toslo: anyway, #ubuntu+1 for Feisty (:12:31
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rbrunhuberTm_T : Do you think this is a good hint? He won't find a lot of people there having kubuntu.12:32
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david_What do I use to find out what hardware I've got on my machine? KInfoCenter doesn't give useful information (like card names).12:35
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MuJthere's no linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.20-13.. that's why it doesn't work12:35
osloMuJ> it's seems i have one ...12:35
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JucatoMuJ: there is now12:35
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MuJyeah.. right.. I need to update my package list more often :P12:36
Jucatobut the new nvidia-glx doesn't support MX and TI cards anymore.12:36
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rbrunhuberJucato : It looks like nvidia-glx is not updated for the new kernel12:39
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Jucatorbrunhuber: it is. it's too updated12:39
Jucatoversion: 1.0.9755+2.6.20.4-13.1212:39
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rbrunhuberJucato : So packages.ubuntu.com is not uptodate...12:40
Jucatorbrunhuber: yes. the site isn't. but the repos are12:40
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rbrunhuberJucato : I'm here at work so i have to use the "other" bs12:41
Jucato:)12:41
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rbrunhuberJucato : Are you sure the newest nvidia driver does no longer support gforce 4 cards?12:42
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ryanakcano longer support? why?12:43
Jucatohttp://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html <--- list of cards supported by the 9755 driver12:43
Jucatorbrunhuber: 9631 is the last that supports GeForce412:43
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rbrunhuberJucato : Thanks.12:45
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polly1Hello12:45
intelikeywow...   heh irc is so funny in 50x15 text mode12:45
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intelikeyJucato for ?12:45
polly1Anyone know what this means "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) smbmnt failed: 1"12:46
Jucatointelikey: for the rest of my life :)12:46
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_JPifup returns always 0, even if it says "Failed to bring up eth0". how do i detect the failure in an sh script?12:46
Jucatointelikey: j/k. the latest nvidia-glx driver on feisty no longer supports my card :)12:46
intelikeypolly1 yes means you can't do it without sudo.12:46
waylandbillJP: how about checking stderr for output.12:46
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intelikeyJucato really.        ummmm that's nvidia's doing isn't it ?12:47
polly1intelikey: Hmmm... I'm getting this message from inside LinNeighborhood.12:47
Jucatointelikey: yesh12:47
Jucatointelikey: I wasn't really implying it was ubuntu at fault :)12:47
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_JPwaylandbill: thanks for the tip12:47
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polly1intelikey: So I would just run the app with sudo?12:48
intelikeyJucato no i was just wondering if nv & ati were about to roll swap.12:48
intelikeypolly1 of set the suid bit on it12:48
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intelikeypolly1 that's an chmod call if you are interested12:48
polly1intelikey: Oh..12:49
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polly1chmod +s smbumount12:49
intelikeyis it +s  ?   or  +S  ?12:50
intelikeyi just digitize it.   4755   hehe12:50
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intelikeybut polly1 remember that security is some times compromised when you run things with suid12:51
intelikeyyou should read up on that.12:51
polly1intelikey: Ok.12:52
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frojndhow  does this APT download proccess works? if I upload torrents downloading with apt goes real slow, if I pause torrents apt downloading encrease... is there any connection between apt downloading and torrents?12:53
JucatoO.o12:53
Jucatoyou don't download torrents using APT12:54
frojndo.O12:54
frojndJucato... torrents are beside work..12:54
Jucatoaah12:54
frojndI know, I don't downlodat them with apt12:54
Jucatowell you're using up your bandwidth att he same time12:54
frojnddownload*12:54
frojndJucato: des that mean that when I download packages I also upload them?12:54
intelikeyband narrowness12:55
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intelikeyfrojnd no it means that you can only pass so much data over the line in a given time.12:55
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intelikeydirrection is irrelevant12:55
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frojndintelikey: that doesn't make any sence, I can download torrent with the same speed as with apt, and also upload.. so why would this be irrelavant12:56
_4strOand if u dont limit the upload, your download will be affected12:56
frojndand with apt I can only download..12:56
frojnd_4strO: ya, I noticed..12:56
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frojndwith other words:12:57
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frojndvdsl where ru12:57
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wilmanwhere can i configure xine?12:58
MuJare you sure there's no cat eating your internetz?12:58
Kmoshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/9314112:58
Kmosit will be available for feisty ?12:58
intelikeyMuJ maybe he's got a grep eating it....12:59
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wilmanis feisty out yet?12:59
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frojndwilman: beta mgm12:59
frojndMuJ: my cat is dead for a long time..12:59
wilmanbeta mgm?01:00
MuJoh.. I'm sorry :(01:00
frojndmhm01:00
polly1intelikey: I chmod +s smbamnt and still get that message.  Any ideas?01:00
frojndMuj: it was kinda hilarious, my mum drove her just 1m before garage..01:00
intelikeypolly1 ls -l  and see if it is suid or not01:01
wilmanwhen i set a plugin for sound in amarok like : pcm.duplicate when i restart amarok it is back to default, how can i make this stay ?01:01
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polly1intelikey: LOL.. Uggg.. Typo  I did it to smbumount01:05
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intelikey:)01:06
intelikeyoh no.01:06
intelikey!security hole....01:07
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intelikeyi just found out that any user can without special permission chmod a script they have written.   including  chmod 4755 ~/testing  ; ~/testing    and it will do anything root can do.01:08
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intelikeydubble checking it now.01:09
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gaehello, I was trying to install clamAV01:10
gaebut apparetly there is a problem with my adept/synaptic01:11
gaeand it cannot install it from the repos01:11
gaeany idea?01:11
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intelikey!clamav01:13
ubotuclamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB01:13
gaewhat do you mean?01:13
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polly1bbl01:14
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intelikey!universe01:15
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:15
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gaeI know that01:15
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intelikeyok it seem to ba a false alarm.  i can chmod anything but the suid bit seems like it's some how ignored.01:16
gaeI tried to install it from there01:16
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gaefrom the repos01:17
gaebut it says that it's missing a dependence01:17
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intelikeywhich one ?01:19
gaeclamAV01:19
gaeI tried to install it from the repositories01:19
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gaebut apparently there is a problem with the dependency and doesn't specify that01:20
intelikeyclamav is not a dependancy of clamav   that would be a recursive loop  (bug)01:20
intelikeygae   sudo apt-get install calmav01:20
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gaedone it01:23
intelikeywell did it tell you anything ?01:24
gaethat it's installed, but I don't see any icon in the K menu01:24
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gaegot everything on, thanks a lot man01:26
gaeI had to get KlamAV too01:26
gaethe frontend for KDE01:26
intelikeygae may i ask what you plan on doing with clamav ?01:27
intelikeyjust curious...01:27
metty_would some be so kind to help me pls: how can i upgrade amarok?01:27
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rbrunhubermetty_ : What do you mean with upgrade?01:32
dadwebbhello and good morning01:32
dadwebbhey looks like im on01:32
gaemaybe use it as antivirus?01:32
metty_rbrunhuber: to install a newer version01:32
rbrunhubermetty_ : can't you do this just with adept_manager?01:33
metty_rbrunhuber: i'm trying but as i said i am new to linux and a totally noob :D01:33
gaeprob is that in upgrading clamAV I need to install two packages of which I cannot find a trace in adept01:33
intelikeygae for what though ?01:33
rbrunhubermetty_ : are you using kubuntu edgy?01:34
intelikey<intelikey> gae may i ask what you plan on doing with clamav ?  <gae> maybe use it as antivirus?  <intelikey> gae for what though ?    ?01:34
metty_rbrunhuber:  i am using kubuntu 6.06 i think01:35
intelikeylsb_release -a01:35
gaeprotection of my system?01:35
gaeother then my business of course ;)01:35
intelikeygae what system ?  windows ?01:35
rbrunhubermetty_ : so the latest version of amarok in 6.06 is 1.3901:36
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gaedo you think that I'm here talking if I had windows?01:36
Black_Catwhy not, you might have both linux and windows.01:36
intelikeygae i don't know   i never saw anyone use antivirus crap on linux  unless they were running a server and trying to protect windows01:36
poningrugae: if you dont have windows then why do you have clamav?01:36
rbrunhubermetty_ : which version do you want to use?01:36
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gaewell i figured that having p2p's I'd better use an antivirus...01:38
metty_rbrunhuber:  the newest :D  because i am not able to play mp3s with my amarok version (1.3.9) and people told me to upgrade it01:38
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rbrunhubermetty_ : This is not a problem of amarok. (K)Ubuntu has no out of the box support for mp301:39
Black_Catit's not amarok, it's codec package afaik.01:39
rbrunhuber!codecs|metty_01:39
ubotumetty_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:39
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cyt!samba01:40
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:40
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intelikeyhow does linux do that ?   i found the security    it's not that i can't chmod things to any permissions  including suid   it's that i can't cp tar or anyother means get a file to be owned by root into my home dir ....      what is the mechenism that does that ?    pam ?01:42
ToolBustalguem sabe como se chama o programa para entrar nos telemoveis por bluetooth?01:42
metty_rbrunhuber: i just downloaded codecs before. i don't really think that thats the prob01:42
ToolBustis there a software that i can hack into a cell by bluetooth?01:43
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rbrunhubermetty_ : there are a lot of codec packages so this does not mean you have mp3 support in amarok01:43
ToolBustis there a software that i can hack into a cell by bluetooth?01:44
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rbrunhuberToolBust : Do you want to connect to a bluetooth device or do you really want to "hack" it01:44
ToolBusthack it01:44
rbrunhuberToolBust : I do not think this is the right channel to ask for such tools.01:45
metty_rbrunhuber: ok thanks a lot i will have a look at this :)01:45
ToolBustwhat's the right one?01:45
rbrunhubermetty_ : Please tell us if you where successful01:45
Tm_Trbrunhuber: well, kernel issues aren't really Kubuntu specific01:45
ToolBustdo you know the right channel?01:45
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rbrunhuberToolBust : Google is your friend. I will not give you any pointers on this01:46
ToolBustwhy not?01:46
Black_Cati have strange things happening in my computer. i'm trying to install kubuntu 6.06 from livecd, and i just receive cd-reading errors; though it works just fine with the virtualPC. any workaround ideas with usb/disc image? all i see in wiki is alternate installer related...01:47
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rbrunhuberToolBust : Because this is not hacking-mobiles-by-bluetooth channel01:47
ToolBustthen tell me one01:47
rbrunhuberToolBust: No!01:48
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raffytaffywhoa01:55
raffytaffywhat happen to everyone01:55
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orient2000czesc myszmala02:02
raffytaffydist-upgrade should feature a --dry-run switch..meaning to test if itll resolve all dep proper.02:02
raffytaffyooo polak02:02
myszamalacze02:02
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raffytaffydwa polacy02:02
rbrunhuberraffytaffy : Doesnt have apt-get a dry-run script indepent of upgrade or dist-upgrade?02:02
orient2000trzy polacy?02:02
Tm_Traffytaffy: well, it asks (y/n) if od or not02:02
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raffytaffyi mean install in say a /tmp dir02:02
Tm_Torient2000: speak english thanks02:02
raffytaffywhich will show all possible outcomes?02:02
raffytaffyehh02:02
orient2000ok02:03
raffytaffywishfull thinking02:03
Tm_Tyes, I do not wish to do anything serious (:02:03
myszamalapolakw jak mrwkw02:03
raffytaffykinda like auto patching a kernel ..u can do a dry run on the patch against the source youre patching..to see if it will work02:03
myszamalasorry02:03
Tm_Tmyszamala: same to you, english please02:03
myszamalaok, ok02:03
raffytaffymyszamala: where are you from02:04
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Tm_Tthere's channels for other languages02:04
myszamalapoland, warsaw02:04
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waylandbill!pl02:04
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl02:04
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myszamalai know02:04
rbrunhuberraffytaffy : you should have a look at aptitude -s02:04
orient2000#ubuntu-pl is a joke 2 people there sleeping all the time02:05
myszamalabut orient aks me in polish02:05
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myszamalaso i anserwed in polish02:05
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gaeso, i was saying, anyone tried to install PG2 n kubuntu?02:06
raffytaffyrbrunher: what u mean aptitude -s02:06
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rbrunhuberraffytaffy: from aptitude help :  -s             Simulate actions, but do not actually perform them.:02:07
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raffytaffyahh cool ok02:07
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raffytaffyi didnt know about that. i dont use aptitude on reg basis02:07
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rbrunhuberraffytaffy : and this even works with the non-super-cow-power version02:07
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rbrunhuberraffytaffy : :-)02:08
raffytaffyapt-get moo02:08
raffytaffyhehe02:08
Tm_Tgae: PG2 ?02:08
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waylandbillrbrunhuber: all versions do it then since aptitude doesn't have those kind of powers. ;)02:08
orient2000!moo02:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:09
Tm_Twell it does02:09
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Tm_Taptitude -v moo <-- keep adding v02:09
waylandbillI know the eegg. It's cute.02:09
rbrunhuberwaylandbill : this was just a joke. But i'm still searching for the super-cop-power version :-)02:10
waylandbill:)02:10
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raffytaffythis may be a bit offtopic but still is on topic...anyone heard of that windows based buntu installer02:12
Tm_Tyes02:12
raffytaffydoes it work?02:12
Tm_Tas for pre-alpha testing yes02:12
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raffytaffyis it like debootstrap?02:12
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Tm_Tall I know that it's easy way to destroy your system if nothing else ;)02:13
raffytaffyahh good to know02:13
raffytaffyi will recomend to my enemies02:13
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Tm_Traffytaffy: I think that's against CoC02:13
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raffytaffyi was joking02:14
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Tm_Thmm, not sure if joking is against it too02:14
gaeTm_T peerguardian 202:14
gaePG202:14
Tm_TI see02:14
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Tm_T!peerguardian02:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about peerguardian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:14
raffytaffypeerguardian waste of time02:14
Tm_Theh02:14
raffytaffyktorrent does that stuff with ipwhitelist /blacklist02:15
raffytaffyim not sure where to get the lists thou02:15
Tm_Tgae: have you done any searching in wiki.ubuntu.com or help.ubuntu.com/community02:15
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gaeI'm a bit multitasking at the moment, but not as much, didn't02:16
raffytaffyif u want to know what im using ask02:17
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raffytaffyok why is there 350+ users but only a few talk02:19
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Admiral_Chicagomorning all02:19
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raffytaffymorning Admiral_Chicago02:20
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Admiral_Chicagohey there raffytaffy02:21
Admiral_Chicagodoing a little bug work before school starts, i'm so productive. anyone needing help in here?02:21
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just-this-time!flashplugin02:22
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:22
just-this-time!flash02:22
Admiral_Chicagoyup, i have a twin brother. he is cool, trying to get him going on bug work02:22
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Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: what are you trying to find02:22
Admiral_Chicagoflashplugin-nonfree?02:23
just-this-timeyes02:23
metty_where can i check my kuuntu version pls?02:23
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: wow. kool :)02:23
Jucatometty_: "lsb_release -a" in Konsole02:23
Admiral_Chicagoproblem is he doesn't have an ubuntu machine for the reason I blogged about earlier like no printer support.02:23
metty_Jucato: thx02:23
Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: what release are you on?02:23
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metty_6.10 edgy02:24
metty_oh sry ^^02:24
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: still kool to have a twin hehe :) [/offtopic] 02:24
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just-this-timefirefox 2 on edgy explodes I have nv on 1024 pixels02:24
just-this-timefirefox 2 on edgy explodes  when on flash pages .I have nv on 1024 pixels02:25
gaemoblock is the one for linux02:25
Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: that latest flash plugin for edgy is in the backports repo02:25
just-this-timehappens on second computer02:25
metty_rbrunhuber: i now can play mp3s :D the dist-upgrade helped :D02:25
just-this-timeI wonder who is to blame  - nv ? firefox ? flash ?02:25
metty_rbrunhuber: thx a lot!02:25
Admiral_Chicagoi'd uncomment that line, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, then edit /etc/apt/sources.list back to not use backports02:26
just-this-timetyvm Admiral_Chicago02:26
Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: flash i would say, I have seen too many mozilla problems because of plugins02:26
just-this-timewhy not use backports ?02:26
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just-this-timeso Admiral_Chicago which flashplugin version suits my system ? in nv, edgy, 1024 pixels, ff202:27
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rbrunhubermetty_ : Just a word of warning after the "bad" hint: Be careful with apt-get dist-upgrade. This *may* break things.02:27
Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: what are the symptoms. backports are for programs that users really want for earlier releases but it has newer versions for certain things and can get you into dependency problems02:28
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rbrunhubermetty_:  Do not say yes if it wants to update things you do not know of.02:28
metty_rbrunhuber: k ;) thx02:29
metty_rbrunhuber: but i am still trying to update my amarok and it won't work02:29
Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: whats the brand of the printer ?02:29
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: run that by me again? (about backports)02:30
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Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: you want flash 9, you may have 7 in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins02:30
Admiral_ChicagoLinux_Galore: Dell and Lexmark.02:30
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: ah nvm. got it02:30
Jucatojust had to reread it 3x :P02:30
just-this-timeAdmiral_Chicago: how do I check flashver02:31
Jucatojust-this-time: about:plugins in Firefox02:31
Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: aah the Dell stuff is just a software printer, lexmark do have good support but only in the business range02:31
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Admiral_ChicagoLinux_Galore: yea, nothing for my two 40 dollar printers.02:31
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metty_why does apt held the amarok package back when i try to "apt-get upgrade amarok" ??02:32
just-this-timeAdmiral_Chicago:  right it says flash 7 and  sudo apt-get install flashplugi-nonfree reports latest ver ?02:32
Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: you have to be carefull the term "printer" is loosely used with the cheap models because in reality there is stuff all in them other than a IO interface chipset, they basically run the hardware in emulation on the system, nice in some ways but the print speeds are rubbish and they slow your system down02:33
Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: first do sudo apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree02:33
Admiral_Chicagowhat does the candidate file tell you02:33
just-this-time  Candidate: 7.0.68~ubuntu302:34
Admiral_Chicago!paste | just-this-time02:34
ubotujust-this-time: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:34
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just-this-timety02:34
Admiral_Chicagoplease follow the link and paste what you have in your /etc/apt/sources.list02:35
Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: the reason Linux doesnt work with these printers is because well there is nothing to work with, the printers have no real hardware inside them to send anything too02:35
Admiral_Chicagothen pase me the link02:35
just-this-timek02:35
Admiral_ChicagoLinux_Galore: right, I know that, its the same issue of being marginalized by hardware vendors as well, but that belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic :)02:35
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bronze_0_1what does kubuntu use for the chkconfig function?02:36
rbrunhuberbronze_0_1 : what does chkconfig for other distributions?02:37
just-this-timeAdmiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12137/ there you go ! current sources.list02:37
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=== bronze_0_1 notes that windows supports the very same printers.... hmm perhaps hardware isn't the issue.
yetiunmet dependencies: libartsc0-dev: Depends: libartsc0 (= 1.5.4-0ubuntu1) but 1.5.5-0ubuntu1~dapper1 is to be installed <- what _exactly_ does that mean?02:37
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yetii'm trying to install libartsc0-dev, libartsc0 IS installed02:38
yetii'm usind edgy & edgy-backports02:38
Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: actually thats wrong, its easier to write a driver for "real" hardware than the cheap rubbish sold at walmart that has to have the whole thing run in software to save a few bucks02:38
Admiral_Chicagoah you are correct02:38
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Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: In a way Linux is a great crap hardware filter02:38
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pCarsten_i just followed the upgrade instructions edgy->feisty, there's one module left in Adept Updater called "linux-restricted-modules-generic". Requesting upgrade results in status "BREAK (upgrade)". what does that mean?02:40
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pCarsten_should I go ahead and upgrade anyway?02:40
Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: almost done02:40
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rbrunhuberpCarsten_ : I would not do this. This could leave you with an unbootable system.02:41
Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: good example is i was looking at some three in ones recently and wondering why one (made by panasonic) had no Linux support but the other two did, then I also noticed the panasonic had really bad page speeds compared to the other two models, a bit of research and i found the Panasonic model was actually a software printer and thats why its so slow02:41
pCarsten_rbrunhuber: ok, thx. But what does it actually mean? where can i find out what would break?02:41
just-this-timety02:41
Admiral_Chicagoyup, i believe you.02:41
just-this-timedid sudo apt-get update02:42
just-this-timenow dwonloading flash 902:42
rbrunhuberpCarsten_ : What did you use for upgrade?02:42
just-this-timeAdmiral_Chicago: restart ff2 ?02:42
pCarsten_the process on the kubuntu wiki DistUpgrade page (or whatever it's called)02:42
Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: may not work02:42
nicochi02:43
nicoc:)02:43
rbrunhuberpCarsten_:  need the link please02:43
Linux_Galorelol, just download flash from the adobe site and unpack it and copy the file to ~/mozilla/plugins  takes like 20 seconds02:43
Tm_TpCarsten_: wait and retry with adept02:43
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nicoccan anyone give me a hand partitionating my hardisk?02:43
Tm_TpCarsten_: but do not rebooot until that's gone, there is update that fixes that "break"02:43
Tm_T!partitioning02:44
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:44
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pCarsten_rbrunhuber: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade02:44
Tm_TpCarsten_: you have adept open, right?02:44
pCarsten_Tm_T: Adept Updater02:44
Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: i would change your sources to lok like this02:44
Admiral_Chicagohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12141/02:44
nicocim triying to keep my other os safe, and the setup of kubunto does not let me create 2 partitions :s02:45
Admiral_Chicagoi'm curious to where flash 7 is installed02:45
pCarsten_Tm_T: but I can switch if need be, of course02:45
Tm_TpCarsten_: ok, let me look how that works and I'll help you with it :)02:45
Admiral_Chicagoanyone know?02:45
just-this-timeAdmiral_Chicago: tyvm flash9 worked . now you say comment backports back ?02:45
Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: /usr/lib  from memory02:46
Admiral_ChicagoLinux_Galore: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ over here, not sure about edgy02:46
Admiral_Chicagojust-this-time: wait, what does about:plugins tell you?02:47
rbrunhuberpCarsten_ : The tool is not 100% stable AFAIK. So this should be used by testers and developers only. If you are not really sure you should better no upgrade to feisty before it is not stable on ~19th April.02:47
Tm_TpCarsten_: btw for Feisty discussion #ubuntu+1 (:02:47
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Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so02:48
Admiral_ChicagoLinux_Galore: ty.02:48
alomelohi there. anybody know how to install django framework to kubuntu edgy?02:49
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Tm_TpCarsten_: hmm, can you restart adept_updater?02:49
pCarsten_Tm_T: done02:49
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Tm_TpCarsten_: and fetch information etc, look and hit me what it says related to restricted02:50
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Tm_THobbsee: hi (:02:51
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pCarsten_Restricted Linux modules for generic kernels02:51
pCarsten_This package will always depend on the latest restricted modules available for generic kernels.02:51
Admiral_Chicagookay, gotta run to my classes, talk to you all later. just-this-time, you may PM me if you need help, but I won't be back for a few hours02:51
rbrunhuberTm_T : Do you really want to upgrade him to feisty? It might get him a unusabe system. Feisty and the update are still mareked as not being ready for primetime.02:51
Tm_TpCarsten_: and its upgradable?02:51
Tm_Trbrunhuber: he already did02:51
pCarsten_Tm_T: yep02:51
Tm_TpCarsten_: wonderful, apply :)02:52
pCarsten_rbrunhuber: I'm already 90% of the way through the process...02:52
Hobbseehey Tm_T!02:52
rbrunhuberHobbsee : Hi Hobbsee02:52
joaquinalguien me podria ayudar con un problema relaccionado con el apt02:52
Tm_TpCarsten_: and has been going fine? except this issue ofcourse :)02:52
pCarsten_Tm_T: but this is when I get the BREAK msg (as soon as i hit "request upgrade")02:53
Tm_TpCarsten_: still? :O02:53
Admiral_Chicago!es | joa02:53
ubotujoa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:53
Admiral_Chicago!es | joaquin02:53
ubotujoaquin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:53
pCarsten_Tm_T: there were some trouble with apache2, but since I don't need that right now I just removed that02:53
Admiral_Chicagosorry,02:53
Hobbseehey rbrunhuber02:53
Tm_TAdmiral_Chicago: (:02:53
pCarsten_Tm_T: yes, still02:53
Tm_TpCarsten_: hmm, weird, mind to open konsole and do some magic there02:54
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pCarsten_Tm_T: no, i don't mind that at all02:54
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just-this-timetyvm Admiral_Chicago I am aka cntb02:54
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Tm_TpCarsten_: good, "sudo apt-get update" and then "apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-13-generic"02:55
Tm_TpCarsten_: first close adept and friends ofcourse (:02:56
pCarsten_Tm_T: done02:56
Tm_TpCarsten_: and? pastebin whole output02:56
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Tm_TpCarsten_: you're using generic I assume rudlessly :p02:57
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Tm_Truthlessly even02:57
Tm_Tor whatever02:57
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kenoxhello02:58
pCarsten_have no idea what you mean by "generic" .. is that a "yes" or a "no" then? ;-)02:58
kenoxhow can i run a command as root02:58
Tm_TpCarsten_: let's assume it's yes ;)02:58
kenoxfrom kde02:58
waylandbillkenox: kdesu02:58
Tm_Tkenox: "kdesu command" to klauncher, alt-F2 is default for that I think02:59
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waylandbill!kdesu02:59
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo02:59
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kenoxits a bigger problem02:59
pCarsten_Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12145/02:59
kenoxthere a bug with shutdown02:59
kenoxso i use halt03:00
kenoxnow i want to run halt without using kdesu as kdesu asks for password03:00
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kenoxi want a hlat button like the shutdown button in k menu03:01
kenoxhalt*03:01
Tm_TpCarsten_: hmm, interesting03:01
kenoxhow?03:01
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Tm_TpCarsten_: do you use mirrors?03:01
pCarsten_Tm_T: yessir03:01
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Tm_TpCarsten_: hmm, mind to temporarily use http://archive.ubuntu.com for restricted ?03:02
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Jhurihi folks03:02
Tm_TpCarsten_: looks like that update hasn't hit your mirror yet03:02
kenoxcould i edit the shutdow command to halt?03:02
kenoxin kdm03:02
MenaHi, i got this error after changing the Groups (Conversation with su failed ) ...Why i get this03:02
Jhurimy monitor module in kde systemsettings keeps failing03:02
JhuriAttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'split'03:03
Jhurierror: *** runFunction failure03:03
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Jhuri self.xsetup = XSetup(self.xconfigpath)03:04
Jhuri  File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/displayconfigabstraction.py", line 321, in __init__03:04
Jhuriany ideas?03:04
Menastdin, Hi03:05
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Mena!su03:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:05
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pCarsten_Tm_T: that was the trick! I removed all the country codes in sources.list, and now I'm looking at a dozen upgrades instead of just one. And none with "BREAK".03:05
Jhuri??03:05
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Tm_TpCarsten_: lovely :)03:06
Tm_Tjolly good, jolly good indeed03:06
bazatu_3can enibody help me whit my Nvidia video card03:06
MenaTm_T, Can you see this error Conversation with su failed03:07
Tm_Tbazatu_3: and your problem is?03:07
bazatu_3i cannot install my driver03:07
bazatu_3i-ve got a driver from nvidia03:07
bazatu_3but that is no good03:07
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bazatu_3when i install that driver the X server do not start03:08
rbrunhuberbazatu_3 : Can you post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?03:08
bazatu_3just a moment03:09
rbrunhuberbazatu_3 : Do you have a Geforce 4 card=03:09
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bazatu_3i have a Ge Force fx 550003:09
Jucato!nvidia03:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:09
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ricardohi...03:10
ricardohave anybody tried the distr updater of adept?03:10
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MenaJucato , any idea about this, after changing the Groups (Conversation with su failed ) ...03:11
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JucatoMena: nope.. sorry..03:12
Menaok03:12
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untouchhi got a sound problem i get only sound from my audigy2 out of the digital ourput channel but i need sound from both channel digital and anlog03:13
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bazatu_3X Window System Version 7.0.003:13
bazatu_3Release Date: 21 December 200503:13
bazatu_3X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.003:13
bazatu_3Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.15.7 i68603:13
bazatu_3Current Operating System: Linux Radu 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 15:51:56 UTC 2007 i68603:13
bazatu_3Build Date: 16 March 200603:13
untouchdoes some one have an idea03:13
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Tm_T!pastebin | bazatu_303:13
ubotubazatu_3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:13
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beergutxlHi all03:14
bazatu_3the file is too big03:15
rbrunhuberbazatu_3: Too big for pastebin?03:15
bazatu_3i cannot paste it03:15
bazatu_3yeh03:15
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beergutxlI've got a problem with kaffeine pand audio cd can anyone help?03:16
rbrunhuberbazatu_3:  can you try to paste the output of grep "\(EE\)" -a3 -b3 /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?03:17
q_how to connect two computers using a crossover cable?03:18
sasqIm having troubles with multiple monitors - xinerama is compiled in the normal xorg-packages right?03:18
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bazatu_3just a moment03:18
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untouchwhat is the command to start sthe soundserver ?03:19
beergutxlq_: set static IP addresses on both the machines in the same subnet03:19
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bazatu_3(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)03:21
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beergutxlq_: you missed my message?03:22
rbrunhuberbazatu_3 : You should use pastbin for this.03:22
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rbrunhuber!pastebin| bazatu_303:23
ubotubazatu_3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:23
rbrunhuberbazatu_3 : Do never paste in the channel directly03:23
bazatu_3soryy about that03:23
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serenityhi03:23
q_beergutxl, thx03:23
rbrunhuberbazatu_3: maybe you should try to paste Xorg.0.log to pastebin then03:24
c1|freakyis there any program which works like soundsolution winamp plugin for linux?03:24
rbrunhuberc1|freaky : What does soundsolution do?03:24
serenityi just installed feisty beta, but when i update to 20-13 adept holds back restricted-mdoules-genric and there is no wlan support lleft03:25
Jucatoserenity: #ubuntu+1 please03:26
bazatu_3http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12151/03:26
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rbrunhuberbazatu_3: It seems you have the free driver installed not the nvidia one.03:28
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bazatu_3because that driver on the nvidia site it dose not start03:29
bazatu_3*does03:29
bazatu_3the X server dont't start03:29
rbrunhuberbazatu_3 : ah ok. then i need the other xorg.log (often something like /var/log/Xorg.93.log)03:30
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bazatu_3just a momment03:30
rbrunhuberbazatu_3 : remember to use pastebin again.03:30
bazatu_3ok03:30
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MenaCan i edit the sudo file03:31
ricardohave anybody tried the distr updater of adept?03:31
c1|freakywith what program can un unpack .rar files?03:31
Jucatoc1|freaky: install "unrar" and you can use Ark03:31
Menais not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. i got this when tring to login form terminla with my user name03:31
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eilker!maradns03:32
ubotumaradns: Simple security-aware Domain Name Service server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.10-1 (edgy), package size 449 kB, installed size 1108 kB03:32
c1|freakytheres only unrar-free i dont want that one03:32
Jucatoc1|freaky: you need to enable multiverse03:32
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Jucato!multiverse | c1|freaky03:32
ubotuc1|freaky: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:32
c1|freakyJucato: i have multiverse enabled03:33
c1|freakyuncommented03:33
Freakazillahello03:33
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beergutxlWhenever I play a CD in kaffeine, when it reaches the end it repeats the CD if Playlist--> Repeat is set or not anyone have any ideas?03:33
Jucatoc1|freaky: then you probably don't have the correct one enabled03:33
Freakazillahello03:33
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c1|freakyJucato: im on feisty03:34
FreakazillaI have a question about the forum's03:34
Jucatoc1|freaky: hm...03:34
JucatoI can see unrar here just fine03:35
Jucato!info unrar feisty03:35
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB03:35
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raffytaffyJucato: do u know anything about certs?03:35
Jucatonope03:35
raffytaffyok03:35
Jucatoexcept that I'd love to have a certificate for my job here in the channel :D03:35
Jucatooh wait, I have something like that already :)03:36
raffytaffyJucato: i want to do ccna this summer ; and ive been hearing about a possible buntu cert03:36
raffytaffyis there one?03:36
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Jucatonot really sure... :/03:36
c1|freakyJucato: strange ...03:36
Jucatoc1|freaky: if you could pastebin your sources.list, maybe we can see what's wrong03:37
bazatu_3i don;t have another Xorg.conf other that i posted03:37
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c1|freakyJucato: nm i got it03:39
raffytaffyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12154/   my source list is good for edgy03:39
Jucatoc1|freaky: good03:39
c1|freakythx for ur help :)03:39
Jucatoraffytaffy: he's on feisty :P03:39
rbrunhuberbazatu_3:  No other Xorg.log?03:39
raffytaffyok i can post a feisty list03:39
bazatu_3yep03:39
raffytaffyone sec03:39
Jucatoraffytaffy: nvm03:39
Jucatohe got it03:39
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raffytaffyok03:39
raffytaffyi would like to see his fesity list if possible03:40
raffytaffyto compare to mines03:40
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rbrunhuberbazatu_3 : how often did you start Xorg?03:40
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bazatu_3i don't remember to  start  Xorg03:42
chuckbazatu_3: startx what you're looking for?03:42
bazatu_3i'm i newby in linux03:42
raffytaffysudo /etc/init.d/kdm start03:42
raffytaffyor sudo start x03:42
raffytaffystartx03:42
raffytaffygdm is u use gdm03:43
Jucatoraffytaffy: don't "sudo startx" actually03:43
Jucatoor rather, no need03:43
raffytaffyJucato: im used to doin that when my custom kernels somehow mess up my x :P03:44
Menais there a way to reset the root pass03:44
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bazatu_3it says command not found03:44
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ehambergHow can I use compiz instead of kwin after having installed the compiz-kde package? (Feisty beta)03:45
raffytaffybazatu_3: are you in terminal mode ?03:45
bazatu_3no03:45
chuckso i'm having trouble playing a dvd movie on my kubuntu edgy. tested a data dvd with .mpeg files and they work in kaffeine. however, i try to play a dvd in the same drive and get an error:03:45
chuckThe source can't be read.03:45
chuckMaybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD.)03:45
raffytaffythen x is already started03:45
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bazatu_3ok03:45
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bazatu_3so about my nvidia video card?03:45
raffytaffyglxinfo --> find "direct rendering" if its "on" then u have 3d03:46
raffytaffyif its "off" u prolly need to install driver03:46
lophytehi all.. I'm using Kontact for my mail/calendar/contacts and such.. I imported the Ubuntu Fridge calendar, but now I'd like to remove it and I don't see an option to do so.. any suggestions? thanks03:46
jhutchins!root | mena03:46
ubotumena: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:46
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chuckany suggestions for my dvd problem?03:47
bazatu_3Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"03:48
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chucki thought this stuff was supposed to "just work" in ubuntu   =P03:48
raffytaffychuck u need libdvdcss codecs03:48
seanor22hello everybody03:48
chuckraffytaffy: thanks bub. i'll take a look into it03:48
raffytaffyenable multiverse and universe repos and search for them03:48
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raffytaffybazatu_3: are you using ati or nvidia03:48
seanor22is antone familiar with the kubuntu upgrader tool ?03:49
jhutchins!dvd | chuck03:49
ubotuchuck: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:49
chuckooooooo03:49
seanor22-t +y03:49
jhutchinsseanor22: Edgy => feisty?03:49
seanor22yes03:49
bazatu_3i have a video card Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 256Mb Agp8X03:49
raffytaffy!nvidia | bazatu_303:50
ubotubazatu_3: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:50
jhutchinsseanor22: Try #ubuntu+1, we're still all edgy here.03:50
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seanor22jhutchins: thanks03:50
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bazatu_3i treyd that and it dosent work03:50
Zennor i need some asistance on installing kubuntu from cd-rom! i boot from cd and start the installation and at cd-rom-detect he doesn't find my device...03:50
raffytaffybazatu_3 what exactly did u do03:51
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jhutchinsZennor: There is an alternate CD if you have unsupported video or other problems, it does a text install with more options.03:51
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grotheskHi there!03:52
raffytaffyhi03:52
grotheskIs k3b 1.0 for Edgy available in some repo?03:52
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jhutchins!info k3b03:52
ubotuk3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB03:52
bazatu_3i did exactly what it says there and i work just the nvidia logo03:52
jhutchinsgrothesk: That would be a no.03:52
bazatu_3nothing else03:53
grotheskjhutchins: I thought so.03:53
raffytaffyu see the nvidia logo when u turn on puter bazatu_3?03:53
bazatu_3yes03:53
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sebbaris k3b 1.0 in feisty?03:53
raffytaffybazatu_3: i want you to do this....go here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  ..and paste the complete output of "glxinfo" in there03:53
jhutchinssebbar: #ubuntu+103:53
bazatu_3ok03:54
raffytaffyand give me link in here03:54
Jucatosebbar: will be03:54
Jucatonot yet here though03:54
Zennorjhutchins this version i us ;) but the prob is, that he doesn't recognize the cd-device03:54
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grotheskraffytaffy: Just turn it off.03:55
Zennorjhutchins: syslog says: cdrom-detect CD-ROM mount failed: /dev/scd103:55
florian__Bonjour.03:55
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raffytaffybut how will i know when it finish then hehe03:55
jhutchinssebbar: Unfortunately, #ubuntu+1 uses the same bot, so it doesn't know what's in Feisty either.03:55
florian__I'm looking for the executable which launch kmenu, any idea ?03:56
jhutchinsJucato: Certainly did, I was checking what the bot knows.03:56
Jucatojhutchins: you didn't read what the bot spit out either :P03:56
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Jucato<ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 3987 kB, installed size 8452 kB03:56
jhutchinsJucato: Um, yeah, I did.03:56
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Jucatofeisty only has 0.12 for now03:57
raffytaffyburning media with beta / alpha ver not a good idea imo03:57
Jucatojhutchins: you could also do "info <package> <release>", like "info k3b feisty" with the bot03:57
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[pyro] anyone here using an Asus P4P800-E motherboard?03:59
jhutchinsJucato: Ah, I see now what I missed.04:00
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rstanca[pyro] : problems installing kubuntu on that motherboard?04:00
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ZennorI try to mount my install-cd with: mount -t iso9660 /dev/sdc1 /cdrom -> Mounting... failed: Invalid Argument04:01
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Zennordmesg: attempt to access beyond end of device04:02
Zennordmesg: sr1: rw=0, want=68, limit=404:03
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[pyro] rstanca: no im thinking of buying it.04:05
raffytaffyhow do u guys feel about running kubuntu on xeon chips?04:05
[pyro] rstanca: it has a promise raid controller on it, but one person has complained about the pATA / sATA not both working at the same time.04:06
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[pyro] linux wants to see a sATA controller or a pATA controller.. not both in the 1 controller.04:06
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[pyro] i dont think it will be a problem for me, as id just use sata or the EIDE interface04:06
chuckwhats with these silly Seveas Packages? when i update /etc/apt/sources.list i can't get apt-get update to finish04:06
chuckit throws 404 errors04:07
chucki tried 3 different mirrors04:07
rstanca[pyro] : a friend of mine had problems with installing kubuntu on it, but a bios update fixed the issues04:07
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chuck!dvd04:08
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[pyro] rstanca: oh rly?04:08
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:09
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[pyro] rstanca: i have another Promise TX2 card, i want to run 6 x 40Gb drives on this machine. Set them all up in a software raid 504:09
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chuckd'oh   i made a dumb mistake. i'm sorry04:10
[pyro] rstanca: there are 2 versions of that board, P4P800 and P4P800-E. Your friends was def the E version?04:11
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BluesKajHowdy all  :)04:16
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rstanca[pyro] : called him, yep, it was E04:17
chuckokay i'm running into more trouble. I got libdvdread3, and libdvdcss2 installed, i ran the install-css.sh script. still getting the same error when i play DVDs04:17
chucknot sure where else to go04:18
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chuckdo i need any other packages for dvd playback?04:19
[pyro] rstanca: thanks very much!04:19
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[pyro] rstanca: if it runs linux well and the promise controller functions ok and he's happy with it then thats good enough for me :)04:20
rstanca[pyro] : didn`t hear him complaim :)04:21
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bazatu_3sorry about that04:24
bazatu_3i'm back04:25
bazatu_3i get the same error04:25
bazatu_3on my Nvidia video card04:25
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starterhello friends, I have shared a folder on my kubuntu box with a windows network via samba, but I would like to set up just one user/pass that can read the contents of the folder04:26
starteris there a way to set this up in smb.conf?04:27
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bazatu_3nobody knows how to make work a videocard Nvidia on kubuntu?04:30
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BluesKaj!graphics04:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:30
BluesKaj!nvidia04:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:30
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neil__hey guys