=== ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #launchpad === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db442ec.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === phanatic_ is now known as phanatic === poolie_ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === gouki [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #launchpad === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === phanatic_ is now known as phanatic === robdeman [n=robdeman@b71069.upc-b.chello.nl] has joined #launchpad [01:14] hi all.. how can I install binaries from launchpad? I just figured out that Launchpad has an updated version of mencoder that I need to install on my Ubuntu 6.10 box... === mholthaus [n=mholthau@43.175.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [01:14] the binary I need i sthis one https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/311600/mencoder [01:15] robdeman: download it and doubleclick the file (gdebi-gtk) [01:15] however it seems a .deb Debian package; im only familiar with installing packages using apt-get from the repositiries [01:15] Nafallo: my box has no desktop / gnome / x11 -> webserver only [01:15] dpkg -i *.deb [01:16] robdeman: so gdebi *.deb :-) === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad [01:16] robdeman: or what LaserJock said [01:16] Can I install from the online repository? [01:16] or do I need to download first? [01:16] yea. it's in multiverse [01:16] really? [01:16] robdeman: if it's not in the repository already [01:17] so ehrm multiverse, I need to uncomment that one right? [01:17] in apt/sources [01:17] right === phanatic_ is now known as phanatic [01:19] when I do apt-get install mencoder I get mencoder_2%3a0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8_i386.deb [01:19] that is the pre8 build and that one has a nasty bug [01:20] I need this one RC1 https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/311600/mencoder [01:20] then download the .deb [01:20] well, you could always try dpkg -i and try to satisfy the dependencies. [01:20] LaserJock: ok - but what about the dependencies then? [01:22] gdebi should help with dependencies [01:22] ehrm [01:23] ok sudo apt-get install gdebi doesnt work -- dependencies problem [01:23] ok [01:23] try using dpkg -i to install it [01:23] solve them then? :-) [01:23] and if it has a dep problem run sudo apt-get -f install [01:24] and see if that'll work [01:26] sudo dpkg -i ./mencoder_1.0~rc1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb [01:26] gives dependency problems - leaving unconfigured .. etc [01:27] yes :-) [01:27] that's a feature :-) [01:28] robdeman: ok, now try sudo apt-get -f install [01:29] I did .. erhm.. The following packages will be REMOVED: mencoder [01:29] mm> [01:29] I'm fairly certain we dep on particular versions of some packages :-) [01:29] yeah.. I just removed them .. autoremove [01:30] I think they were installed with the previous mencoder pre8 version... [01:30] I meant the new one... x264 and stuff :-) [01:30] so theres no 'automatic' way to use this https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/311600/mencoder [01:30] it has alist there of all dependenies [01:31] I hoped that I could just install that http://librarian.launchpad.net/6804255/mencoder_1.0%7Erc1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb package [01:31] and then have the installer get all dependencies too [01:31] it seems they are all available on launchpad [01:32] robdeman: like I said... the feisty version probably deps on more stuff that's only in feisty :-) [01:32] Nafallo: what doe sthat exactly mean in rondeman speak? [01:32] :0 [01:32] robdeman: that you need to install more packages with dpkg -i if you really want it ;-) [01:33] Nafallo: it means it will probably involve downloading the dependencies [01:33] yes I need it pretty badly.. [01:33] dpkg i snot able to install from an online source right? [01:33] LaserJock: yea :-) [01:33] I need to get all packages manually I guess [01:33] wget ftw :-) [01:34] ftw? [01:34] for the win [01:34] :-) [01:34] robdeman: yes, dpkg is used to install the packages, apt-get is used to intall remotely [01:35] ok and I cant tell apt-get to use launchpad [01:35] ? [01:35] no [01:35] oi [01:35] it's very very complicated [01:36] you could fairly easily mess up your computer doing things like that [01:36] ok [01:36] so can I search the repositories that are available to apt-get ? [01:37] i did read that the rc1 is actually in multiverse [01:37] however when I install I do get the old one [01:37] well, the available repositories are in the sources.list file [01:38] the problem is the version you want is for Feisty (the upcoming Ubuntu release) [01:39] robdeman: it's in feisty, the currently developed version :-) [01:39] ah.. [01:40] I see [01:42] if there's really an issue with the stable versions it should get updated or backported [01:44] yes I got a mail from the mplayer mailinglist and they (correctly) said that I was using an old version and should get rc1 [01:44] now I dont want to compile it myself from svn trunk [01:45] I would need to install tons of libs and stuff on my webserver [01:45] I could compile it on my defore test box [01:45] but that would not help very much [01:45] I guess === caravena [n=caravena@205-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #launchpad [02:01] New bug: #96144 in soyuz "NEW rejection notifications should go to more than just the uploader" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96144 === jml [n=jml@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.154.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [02:30] Gooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [02:30] hi mpt [02:30] gnight mpt :-) [02:31] hello mpt [02:50] Launchpad seems to be b0rken [02:51] it's timing out [02:54] hello mpt [02:54] sladen, for me too [02:55] mpt: when will lp stop hurting my eyes :) [02:55] and for me... === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad [02:57] which has broken the wiki, how annoying [02:57] :-) [02:59] stub, are you bringing Launchpad back up? === Moitio [n=tom@spc1-stkp1-0-0-cust816.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === reitblatt [n=mark@horatio-073.cs.utexas.edu] has joined #launchpad [03:04] stub: ping === reitblatt [n=mark@horatio-073.cs.utexas.edu] has left #launchpad [] === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #launchpad [03:09] lifeless: pong [03:09] im gonna guess its not me, but is LP down for a while? [03:09] stub: is lp down deliberatley? I'm about to restart things and didn't want to trod on your toes [03:09] Nope - nothing to do with me [03:09] so folks.. is there really no way to get my Ubuntu 6.10 apt-get to install mencoder from the Feisty repository? I really need the updated version... [03:09] stub: its not showing the deliberate downtime message. [03:10] stub: thanks. I hope I didn't wake you or kirsten [03:10] robdeman: -> #ubuntu. google for apt-pinning [03:10] Nah - woke early today. Tonsilitis :-P [03:10] robdeman: you can but first this isnt ubuntu support, and i dont advise it but it depends what the depends are [03:10] gnomefreak: I think the dependencies are safe [03:11] gnomefreak: They are all a bunch of video/audio libs.. I dont use any of them really yet [03:11] robdeman: -> #ubuntu [03:11] gnomefreak: I tried #Ubuntu ofcourse.. [03:11] robdeman: ubutnus mplayer has it built it [03:11] stub: :( [03:11] libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1) not safe at all [03:11] gnomefreak: I need mencoder... the version in V6.10 has a nasty bug [03:12] robdeman: see me in #ubuntu === sladen beds. there will be more launchpad in the morning === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.131.47] has joined #launchpad [03:13] stub: File "/srv/launchpad.net/production/launchpad/utilities/../lib/zope/app/rdb/__init__.py", line 289, in execute [03:13] return self.cursor.execute(operation, parameters) [03:13] ProgrammingError: ERROR: could not access status of transaction 0 [03:13] DETAIL: Could not write to file "pg_subtrans/1B99" at offset 221184: No space left on device. [03:13] stub: /dev/cciss/c1d0p1 268G 254G 0 100% /srv [03:13] yay. [03:13] over to you, I'm in a bzr sprint :). === Theuni [n=ctheune@uter.gocept.com] has joined #launchpad [03:20] stub: lifeless: i'm now getting an oops, is that expected? [03:20] poolie_: yes [03:21] stub: as a quick hack, maybe you can change the root-reserved space on that partition [03:22] stub: bump it down from 5% to 1-2% [03:22] sladen: we dont have root ourselves, need a sysop [03:25] New bug: #96188 in launchpad "cscvs tests fail with cvs in feisty" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96188 === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.154.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [03:44] mpt: noticed concerning the page not showing in konq that simply resizing the window can fix it. === jamesh [n=james@203-59-252-38.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad === Theuni [n=ctheune@uter.gocept.com] has joined #launchpad [05:05] New bug: #96211 in launchpad "On project registration page, "Owner" description is gibberish" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96211 === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad [06:25] jamesh: ping on reviews [06:25] lifeless: doing salgado's one today [06:27] thanks === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.51.188.191] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === fabbione [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.51.188.191] has joined #launchpad === Starting logfile irclogs/launchpad.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #launchpad === Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad users and developers | Next user meeting: Wed 28 March 2007, 0900UTC | Next developer meeting: Thu 29 Mar 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === Topic (#launchpad): set by stub at Thu Mar 22 15:55:01 2007 === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.131.47] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.154.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@62-30-68-94.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [09:17] morning === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad [09:27] morning carlos [09:29] mdke: hey === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.154.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.154.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === egidijus [n=egis@unibz.it] has joined #launchpad === dneary [n=dneary@mne69-9-88-163-116-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #launchpad === _thumper_ [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=bigjools@82-71-93-254.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [10:05] lifeless: I think we were meant to have a reviewer team meeting 2 hours ago === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F7553E.versanet.de] has joined #launchpad [10:06] hellas [10:06] could it be that LP dropped a bunch of mailed bugs? [10:07] i filed 84 on friday evening [10:14] jamesh: anctually, now I think [10:14] or perhaps it was back. How about we chat on wednesday ? :) [10:15] lifeless: it says 06:00 UTC on the wiki, which was 2 hours ago [10:15] sure :) [10:15] oops [10:15] this was bound to happen around the DST transition [10:15] yah [10:15] also, sprinting. [10:25] New bug: #96278 in launchpad "Changing the ownership of a team sets expirantion date when there was none" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96278 === thumper [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@80.73.178.188] has joined #launchpad === thumper [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@247.Red-83-49-51.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@85-211-247-64.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.154.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.154.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [11:12] Is there any progress on a fix for the issue that causes LP to frequently return an empty response? [11:13] It's currently unusable, with about every 2nd page load doing that. [11:15] Fujitsu, it's bug 89194 [11:15] Malone bug 89194 in launchpad "LP (regular and beta) sending gzipped binary files" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89194 [11:15] Thanks mpt. [11:16] I'm unable to reproduce that Etch background bug... Can you find out which package it's in, please? [11:16] How would I find out? [11:16] I can't even tell what the filename is === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.32.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [11:17] hey BjornT - do you know anything about LP dropping mailed bug reports? I filed 84 bug reports friday evening by mail [11:18] mpt: If you set it as your background, open up gconf-editor, and navigate to desktop->gnome->background, you'll see the filename. [11:20] /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-background [11:20] So now I suppose there's some magical apt command that will tell me which package provides that file? :-) [11:21] dpkg -S filename [11:21] I have desktop-base/desktop-splash, but not -background... How strange. [11:21] dpkg: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-background not found. [11:22] dholbach: no, i don't know anything about it. i've checked the error reports, and there's no indication that mails have been dropped. [11:23] now that's really weird [11:23] Fujitsu, /usr/share/desktop-base is entirely Debian stuff [11:24] The one file I have of that is too... [11:24] but only "desktop-background" shows up in Desktop Background [11:24] BjornT: hrm - strange - I'll see if I can find a problem on my end - the mail log indicates it was sent properly [11:25] mpt: That's really really strange... [11:26] dholbach: maybe you could send one of the bug report mails to me, so i can have a look at it? maybe it's a bug in our error reporting system. === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.32.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [11:28] mpt: I can't find any Etch stuff, actually... It's not in the gnome-session source, which is where that directory comes from, either. [11:29] mpt: I must say that it looks like your system is on crack. [11:29] It's trying to send me subliminal "switch to Debian" messages [11:31] BjornT: sent one [11:32] thanks [11:35] dholbach: did you sent the bug reports from the same From address? if so, it looks like that address isn't registered with your account in LP. [11:36] BjornT: i just noticed... sorry. :-( [11:36] dholbach: also, you should have a slash in front of 'distros', so /distros/ubuntu/emile [11:36] BjornT: i'll fix it and try again [11:36] oh ok [11:36] thanks [11:36] dholbach: well, it's a but that you didn't get any error message. [11:36] s/but/bug/ [11:37] BjornT: you don't need the leading /, do you? I'm sure I've filed bugs without it... [11:40] ok, filed another one - let's see if it gets through now [11:40] Fujitsu: could be, but there's no tests for paths without a leading / . although, soon you won't need the 'distros' part either, and then i'm sure it won't matter if you have a leading / or not. [11:42] BjornT: I've been able to submit with the / or distros for at least a month. [11:43] oh, that's good :) === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@89-180-153-35.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu falls asleep while waiting for LP. === schwuk_ [n=dave@85-211-247-64.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [11:53] BjornT: thanks again - it works now === dholbach files the other 83 bugs === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #launchpad [] [11:55] Didn't really need more bugs, dholbach. :( [11:56] Fujitsu: you're preaching to the choir [11:57] Fujitsu: unmetdeps - we agreed on filing them, so people can start helping out MOTU [11:57] Yeah [11:57] A lot of php4-related ones, I presume. [11:58] not that many [11:58] 14 of 84 === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db4414b.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.32.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #launchpad === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #launchpad [12:50] please update k3b to v1.0 on feisty - https://launchpad.net/bugs/93141 [12:50] Malone bug 93141 in k3b "Should update to k3b 1.0 before feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed] === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [12:53] Kmos: This isn't an Ubuntu channel... [12:56] Kmos: you want to talk to riddel at #kubuntu-devel, but it's probably too late for k3b1.0 [12:57] :( [12:57] I've asked for it a while [12:57] i think i'll compile it myself [12:57] Fujitsu: I use k3b on my ubuntu =) with kdelibs hehe [12:57] Fujitsu: but sorry [12:59] LeeJunFan: thx === mholthaus [n=mholthau@43.175.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db4414b.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === bac [n=bac@cpe-065-190-191-245.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad [01:35] New bug: #96426 in malone "Cannot (in any way!) edit a bug with a very long description" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96426 === Prognatus [n=btj@127.84-48-229.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad 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[n=barry@216-15-33-253.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable252.1-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad === avoine [n=avoine@modemcable034.0-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@85-211-247-64.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [03:50] kiko: if you need more information about the froglinux you can ask me here. https://answers.beta.launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/4355 === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host55-125-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad [03:55] New bug: #96463 in malone "Textarea overlap with portlet when reporting a bug in 1024x768" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96463 [04:00] New bug: #96466 in malone "Order of comment and attachment reversed when editing and when viewing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96466 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === barry [n=barry@216-15-33-253.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #launchpad [04:36] New bug: #96481 in rosetta "Virtual hosting for translation pages is broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96481 === valles_ [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #launchpad [04:40] Has anyone considered adding a "forward bug upstream" button to Launchpad? Linking to an existing upstream bug is fine, but often we get bugs reported that are not known upstream, and being able to just click one button and the bug would be forwarded upstream and linked to the lp bug would be really helpful. === radix [n=radix@70.91.133.157] has joined #launchpad === radix [n=radix@70.91.133.157] has joined #launchpad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@c-69-181-42-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === valles_ is now known as effie_jayx === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === egidijus [n=egis@host250-104-static.51-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad [05:01] shawarma: the tricky bit is figuring out how LP would authenticate to the remote bug tracker [05:02] for example, should we let users give THEIR logins to bugtracker X to LP, and then have LP proxy for the user? [05:02] i'm not sure we want to store those details [05:02] we don't even store LP passwords in the clear in LP [05:02] sabdfl: Ah, good point. [05:03] sabdfl: you could make a launchpad user for the upstream trackers [05:03] so the only cleartext password is a launchpad internal one [05:03] Lumiere: yes, we could do that, and mention in the report who we are proxying for [05:03] not to mention trying to find all the upstream bug trackers, i gues [05:03] s [05:04] sabdfl: yep [05:04] but i think we would need to clear that with the upstreams [05:04] Hobbsee: there is already a list of about 70 [05:04] we have a couple of ideas knocking around [05:04] Lumiere: i was thinking in terms of keeping that updated [05:10] Hobbsee: Making sure that the "forward upstream" button works is more than enough incentive to keep the upstream bug tracker configuration up-to-date, I think. [05:10] shawarma: true === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === DGMurdockIII [i=dgmurdoc@64-184-11-128.bb.hrtc.net] has joined #launchpad [05:21] New bug: #96499 in rosetta "The "Make suggestions from" gets in the way and is rarely used" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96499 === peppe84 [n=peppe84@host206-111-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === DGMurdockIII [i=dgmurdoc@64-184-11-128.bb.hrtc.net] has left #launchpad [] === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === xdatap [n=xdatap1@host97-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it] has joined #launchpad [05:27] hi everybody [05:27] mrevell: hi [05:27] mrevell: one question about blueprint, are you there? === ddaa [n=david@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad [05:30] xdatap: Hi - how can I help? Forgive me if I'm slow to reply, I'm on a call === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #launchpad [05:30] mrevell: good. [05:31] mrevell: we at Italian Promoter Team (italian version of marketing team) would like to write down some specs to make the roadmap of works [05:31] mrevell: blueprint seem perfect for us, cause show dependecies graph. [05:32] xdatap: Cool [05:32] mrevell: but, afaik a blueprint can be made for a project, not for a group [05:32] xdatap: Right. [05:33] mrevell: and i saw about a lot of spec write down for "ubuntu" but unrelated to it [05:33] mrevell: so, how we can do, it's better to make a new project "italian promotion team" and write spec related to it [05:33] mrevell: or simply using "ubuntu" like the rest of the world? :D [05:34] xdatap: Other Ubuntu teams - such as loco teams - have created their own project on Launchpad, so that they can track their blueprints or bugs for their website, etc. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [05:35] xdatap: That seems to work best for them, because they can then keep all their blueprints together, without mixing them up with other teams etc. [05:35] mrevell: ok, so a project ubuntu-it seem the best way [05:36] mrevell: thank you very much [05:36] see you soon [05:36] xdatap: no problem :) [05:36] bye [05:36] bye === xdatap [n=xdatap1@host97-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it] has left #launchpad ["FUFH!"] === peppe84 [n=peppe84@host206-111-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #launchpad [] [05:45] New bug: #96515 in malone "X server crashes starting live installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96515 === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [05:46] yeah! that's bullet-proof-x for ya [05:47] mrevell: could you cast your eye over the reviewers guide i've written, please? [05:47] tomorrow i'd like to convert that to a nicely-formatted PDF to send to beta testers [05:50] sabdfl: LP beta testers? [05:52] sabdfl: Yes, definitely. I'll take a look this evening. [05:53] sabdfl: Or do you want me to look at it now, rather than this evening? === Rinchen [n=Joey@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #launchpad [05:55] hey Rinchen [05:55] mrevell: it's probably an hour to look over it and make corrections, your call re timing [05:55] i'll be here if you want to discuss anything [05:55] sabdfl: Okay, cool. Thanks. [05:55] currently figuring out how best to get it into OO.o for PDF output [05:56] sabdfl: what's it currently in? [05:56] Lumiere: moin [05:56] https://help.launchpad.net/ReviewersGuide/MultiProjectBugs [05:56] that's the starting point [05:56] that's always fun [05:57] sabdfl: Do you have a particular layout you want to use for the PDF? [05:58] i'm making up a stylesheet that (sort of) follows LP CSS [05:58] mrevell, howdy === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] [06:00] sabdfl: Right. Hmm, I'd have thought that it's going to be a manual cut and paste job. I could do that, tomorrow, if you're able to send me the stylesheet. === schwuk [n=dave@85-211-247-64.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [06:02] hey schwuk [06:02] hi mrevell [06:02] moo === popey wishes there was a packaged update-manager-a-like [06:03] hey popey. [06:03] (command line) [06:03] hello mrevell [06:04] popey: you mean apt-get? :) [06:04] :p [06:04] I mean the way update manager goes off and does it on its own [06:04] or can be configured to === popey has a script on debian to do it called local-apt [06:04] uh [06:04] cron job [06:04] but it would be nice if there was a command line version of update-manager IMO otherwise people out there with ubuntu servers might never update because they might never know they need to [06:04] calls apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -Y [06:04] IYSWIM [06:05] yeha yeah [06:05] we can all do that :) [06:05] think of the newbies [06:05] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update dist-upgrade -y & [06:05] Will that do? [06:05] well [06:05] no [06:05] Hah - Lumierebeat me to it! [06:05] what my script does is download them but not install them [06:05] figure out whats new and emails the admin [06:05] so the admin knows there is stuff to do, but decides when to do it [06:06] that script can be used in ubuntu probably [06:06] exactly the was update-manager does [06:06] yes, it can :) [06:06] well make it -y instead of -Y [06:06] I use it on my wifes PC :) [06:06] and use apt-get -d dist-upgrade [06:06] but it would be nice if it were all wrapped up [06:06] sorry, I shouldn't be whittering on about htis here :) [06:06] er apt-get -qq update && apt-get -qq -y dist-upgrade [06:06] I should write a spec shouldn't I [06:06] popey: there is apticron that does exactly what your script does [06:06] popey: become an ubuntero and write the package? [06:07] flacoste: win! [06:07] :) === ja2 [n=jameinel@75.51.62.134] has joined #launchpad === Lumiere tries to remember how to activate apt's super cow powers [06:07] mrevell: i'll do it, it's pretty quick, just want your expert eye to have been over the contents :-) [06:07] will send out a general request this evening [06:08] flacoste: that seem to fit the bill, thanks! :) [06:08] sabdfl: Okeydoke :) === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad === flacoste is now known as flacoste_afk === flacoste_afk is now known as flacoste_lunch [06:33] Lumiere: "apt-get moo" === caravena [n=caravena@205-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #launchpad [06:54] is there a part of launchpad where i can file bugs etc and fiddle around? like a sandbox [06:54] mooey: try demo.lp.n [06:54] it's not ALWAYS up, but when it is, it's a sandbox [06:54] or staging.lp.n [06:55] there's some code version skew between those and production [06:55] but by and large, they are a good place to fiddle [06:55] obviously mail etc is disabled (or should be) [06:55] New bug: #96555 in rosetta "Switching filter setting sometime keeps the "start at" parameter, and then confusingly shows "Nothing here"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96555 [06:56] thanks sabdfl [06:56] i dont suppose there is a demo of the beta ? :} [06:57] i've been toying with making a gtk gui around malone to make it easier for me to deal with bugs [06:58] mooey: promise not to publish screenshots of anything you see in beta? [06:58] or disclose it before it moves over to release? [06:58] sabdfl: i'm already in the launchpad beta team :-) [06:58] oh, ok === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad [06:59] my question wasn't very clear, i meant a sandbox of the beta [06:59] as opposed to the beta being the demo itself o_O [07:08] mooey, why don't you use staging? === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [07:09] also, have you seen the bughelper that heno is working on? === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad [07:13] mrevell, was there actually a form to fill out for an agreement for beta.launchpad.net, or was it just sending you an ack over email? [07:14] kiko: i ask about staging of beta because i guess i will have to screenscape the data, i would rather not rewrite stuff later down the line :-). i've not looked at bughelper, what is it? [07:14] superm1: There's no form. An email to me is good :) [07:14] ook good. [07:15] should i expect to be added soon then? or is a time consuming process === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad [07:19] superm1: I add people to the team in batches, and I plan to do another batch this evening. I'm about to take a call, so send me your email and I'll approve you as part of tonight's batch. Thanks :) [07:19] k thanks mrevell [07:19] superm1: no probs [07:22] hi [07:22] mrevell: hi [07:22] mooey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper [07:22] hi dneary [07:22] Can you explain the rosetta permissions system to me? [07:22] ddaa: thanks [07:22] dneary: I'm just about to take a call, so I may disappear [07:22] OK [07:23] Is there a mailing list where I can annoy people? [07:23] dneary: I'll see if carlos or danilo is around, as they're two of the developers working on Rosetta [07:23] I'm around [07:23] dneary: so have a great insight into what's what. === carlos reads [07:24] dneary: what do you need to know? [07:24] dneary: launchpad-users is at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users [07:24] I mean, we have several kind of permissions [07:24] dneary: do you have doubts in one in concrete? [07:24] carlos: Currently, all of the translations of the wengophone (2.1 branch) are owned by "The Translation project" (I think) [07:24] https://translations.launchpad.net/wengophone/2.1/+pots/qtwengophone [07:25] What I'd like to have is a group of 2 or 3 authorised translators, who approve the suggestions of community translators [07:25] I don't know how to set that up [07:25] It'd be a different group for each language [07:26] I don't know if that's possible [07:26] pochu: thanks :-) [07:26] carlos: That's about it :) [07:27] dneary: that's controlled from https://translations.launchpad.net/wengophone/+changetranslators [07:27] dneary: but to set teams per language [07:27] you don't have rights to do it [07:27] carlos: How do you get to that page, if you don't know the URL? [07:27] I looked a lot :) [07:27] that's an standard group existing outside wengo, so we should map it to the reality so it's a matter of opening tickets to add new teams [07:28] dneary: from https://translations.launchpad.net/wengophone [07:28] you have an action that says 'change translators' [07:29] No [07:29] Edit product details, appoint driver, change maintainer, top contributors, packaging information, published packages, ... [07:29] No change translators [07:31] dneary: you should be in the 'translations' layer [07:32] carlos: hello [07:32] carlos: is there a designed mechanism for the upstream to recieve translations applied to distro packages (not to the upstream product)? [07:32] dneary: sorry, I was using the beta website and we already fixed a small problem with virtual hosting on that page [07:32] dneary: https://translations.launchpad.net/wengophone/+translations === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-57-132.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad [07:33] zyga: no, nothing yet done [07:33] Yes, I see it === Spads_ [n=spacehob@host-87-74-55-194.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste [07:34] carlos: are you aware of any plans to make such process? [07:34] zyga: we have several specs to do email notifications and export it as a bzr branch === Spads_ [n=spacehob@host-87-74-55-194.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad [07:35] carlos: But I do that per language or for the whole project? [07:36] that option you have there is for the whole project [07:36] dneary: at some point, you (or someone from your project) asked us to set the translation group as the main group to do translations [07:37] dneary: that's usually what you need to do if you are using the GNU infrastructure [07:37] dneary: is that still true? [07:37] sorry - it what true? [07:38]