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| BFTD | hi | 07:25 |
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| manchicken | I R Here | 10:03 |
| === allee too | ||
| Riddell | oh hi | 10:04 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux? | 10:05 |
| JohnFlux | hey | 10:05 |
| Riddell | Noel Torres about? | 10:06 |
| Riddell | has everyone been contacted by canonical? | 10:07 |
| JohnFlux | I haven't | 10:07 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: they've probably been trying your kdemail.net address | 10:08 |
| envite | I'm Noel Torres | 10:08 |
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| kwwii | hi | 10:08 |
| Noel_Torres | I'm usually Envite in chats, mails, svn, ... | 10:08 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: please e-mail claire.newman@canonical.com and say who you are and ask for details for the travel agent | 10:08 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: ah, and the servers aren't working that well | 10:08 |
| allee | Riddell: yes, I've confirmed the flight with Claire already | 10:08 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: I'm going by train, if you want to get the same trains let me know | 10:09 |
| Riddell | manchicken: your travel sorted? | 10:09 |
| Riddell | hi Noel_Torres, pleased to meet you | 10:09 |
| Riddell | Noel_Torres: are you coming to UDS and/or UES? | 10:09 |
| Noel_Torres | No, i'll not | 10:09 |
| manchicken | I'm waiting for Canonical's travel folks to get back to me. They asked me to confirm my travel dates, I did, haven't heard from them since. | 10:10 |
| Noel_Torres | somebody must keep the fort :) | 10:10 |
| Noel_Torres | pleased to meet you too | 10:10 |
| Riddell | Noel_Torres: ok, so Cristo is coming and Agustn right? | 10:10 |
| Noel_Torres | Yes, but probably they will be three | 10:10 |
| Riddell | Noel_Torres: do you know who else? | 10:10 |
| Noel_Torres | Cristo, Agustn and Gonzalo Aller | 10:11 |
| manchicken | I doubt that they sent anything, but there was a slight snafu on my mail account that could have missed it, but it was a very small window. | 10:11 |
| Riddell | Noel_Torres: ok, do you know if they're all staying for the whole thing? | 10:11 |
| Riddell | manchicken: just e-mail them in a day or two if you don't hear back | 10:12 |
| manchicken | Righto. | 10:12 |
| Noel_Torres | About staying I don't know, about (very) interested in assist, no | 10:12 |
| allee | manchicken: I've confirmed this morning ~ 1.00 and Claire replied okay-thx two hours later | 10:13 |
| allee | 11.00 that is | 10:13 |
| Noel_Torres | Agustin and Gonzalo wants to assist to education and community days, and Cristo to coding days | 10:13 |
| Noel_Torres | mostly | 10:13 |
| Riddell | Noel_Torres: ok, tell them to make sure it's clear to Claire Newman who is staying for which days | 10:14 |
| allee | did anyone wake up Hobbsee? | 10:14 |
| Riddell | allee: I phoned, got an answerphone | 10:14 |
| Noel_Torres | I'll tell them | 10:14 |
| Riddell | next thing is you should all register to be at the meeting on launchpad https://code.beta.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/+attend | 10:14 |
| allee | :) | 10:14 |
| manchicken | allee: Are you going through their travel folks? | 10:14 |
| Riddell | or rather https://code.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/+attend | 10:15 |
| allee | manchicken: yes, dionne@eyas | 10:15 |
| kwwii | Riddell: do I need to add myself to that page too? | 10:16 |
| Riddell | kwwii: yes | 10:17 |
| Riddell | from 2007-05-06 to 2007-05-11 | 10:17 |
| kwwii | Riddell: thnx | 10:18 |
| Riddell | is everyone clear that this isn't a conference? it's a summit to write specs for the next 6 months based on small group sessions | 10:18 |
| manchicken | Ooh, I don't now the times.... | 10:18 |
| Noel_Torres | We know | 10:18 |
| Riddell | manchicken: just the date is enough | 10:18 |
| manchicken | Righto. | 10:18 |
| manchicken | so 5/6 through 5/11? | 10:19 |
| allee | manchicken: see on the right hand side. but looks like they are not used on the left hand side ;) | 10:19 |
| Riddell | manchicken: 21:17 < Riddell> from 2007-05-06 to 2007-05-11 | 10:19 |
| manchicken | Brewtiful. | 10:19 |
| manchicken | Ooh, will there be beer or will I have to provide my own? | 10:20 |
| Riddell | all meals are paid for | 10:20 |
| manchicken | I can do either, I just need to know how much a tasty beer is over there. | 10:20 |
| Riddell | sometimes conferences we have dinner in the hotel, some out | 10:20 |
| manchicken | ah. | 10:20 |
| Riddell | don't know which will happen this time | 10:20 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: shall I speak to Claire about trying to share a room with my wife there? | 10:20 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: yes | 10:20 |
| JohnFlux | ah ha! | 10:21 |
| kwwii | manchicken: beer is resonable but you have to pay for it ;-) | 10:21 |
| JohnFlux | you just said it wasn't a conference :P | 10:21 |
| Riddell | manchicken: if we eat out then you get a daily allowance for dinner. if you want you can eat cheap porridge and spend the rest on beer | 10:21 |
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| manchicken | When I did the Perl Hackathon there was beer provided, but they certainly accepted contributions :) | 10:22 |
| allee | lol | 10:22 |
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| manchicken | Ah. Righto. | 10:22 |
| allee | Hobbsee: morning! | 10:22 |
| manchicken | I like cheap porridge as long as there's tasty beer. | 10:22 |
| manchicken | :) | 10:22 |
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| manchicken | Grain carbos and beer. THAT, my friends, is how to get through college. | 10:22 |
| manchicken | (even though I never got through) | 10:22 |
| kwwii | ;-) | 10:22 |
| manchicken | kwwii: BTW, is it my imagination or did you redo the login screen for feisty? | 10:23 |
| Riddell | now the agenda | 10:23 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure why but they don't seem to be using launchpad for registering specs this time | 10:23 |
| kwwii | manchicken: not since I changed it the first time | 10:23 |
| Riddell | but my list so far is... | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Adept User Notifications | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Adept Cdrom Upgrades | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu Accessibilty Keyboard | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu Kiosktool | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu Feisty+1 KDE 4 Plan | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu System Settings for KDE 4 | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu Guidance for KDE 4 | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu Restricted Manager | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu Feisty+1 Adept Plan | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Edubuntu KDE | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu Website | 10:23 |
| Riddell | any suggestions or questions about those? | 10:23 |
| Noel_Torres | yes | 10:24 |
| Hobbsee | heya! | 10:24 |
| Hobbsee | sorry for lateness | 10:24 |
| Riddell | morning Hobbsee | 10:24 |
| Noel_Torres | we're using RT as our bugs submitting and managing system | 10:24 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: is your travel sorted? | 10:24 |
| kwwii | Riddell: there will probably be one for new artwork for derivatives as well | 10:24 |
| Noel_Torres | and we'll have a very big user base | 10:24 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: not yet. in discussions with the travel agent | 10:24 |
| Hobbsee | had to wait to see if elkbuntu was getting sponsored yet | 10:24 |
| Riddell | kwwii: you should add it to https://wiki.canonical.com/UDS-Sevilla/Agenda | 10:24 |
| Noel_Torres | so we want to find the way of joining our system with official ubuntu/kubuntu bugtracking systems | 10:25 |
| kwwii | Riddell: will do...wanted to talk to Mark about that first though | 10:25 |
| Riddell | Noel_Torres: I'm sure there is, I'll add that to the agenda, it'll need a launchpad person there | 10:25 |
| Noel_Torres | and we want to talk about kwifimanager, ltsp, monitoring, sudo&kdesudo and kmenu | 10:25 |
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| Riddell | Noel_Torres: I can add a general meduxa and Kubuntu session too | 10:26 |
| Noel_Torres | and by last thing (I'm sorry but i have a hardcopy by Agustin) | 10:26 |
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| Riddell | Noel_Torres: it's all good | 10:26 |
| Noel_Torres | we're using MediaWiki for generating content and we want to submit to Ubuntu | 10:27 |
| allee | oh, https://wiki.canonical.com/UDS-Sevilla/Agenda is password protected | 10:27 |
| Noel_Torres | mainly kubuntu user manuals | 10:27 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: I don't have access to that page you said | 10:27 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i think i'm at Ubucon the day before, actually | 10:27 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: no, it's top secret | 10:27 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: I'm not sure why, but that's the way they're doing it | 10:27 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: I did have an email from claire - I had just ignored it :-D | 10:28 |
| Riddell | Noel_Torres: ok, I'll add a session for that too | 10:28 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: are you sure that all meals are paid for? apparently for MTV that didnt happen. was that canonical employees only? | 10:28 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: I've replied back and told her about the accomodation etc | 10:28 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: tsk | 10:28 |
| Noel_Torres | Riddell: Ok, I'll tell Agustin and the others about that | 10:28 |
| JohnFlux | Hobbsee: at google? | 10:28 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: at MTV lunch was free on google and dinner you paid for and claimed back from your daily allowance from canonical | 10:28 |
| manchicken | Sorry, having to deal with a car problem, I'm trying to pay attention :) | 10:28 |
| Hobbsee | JohnFlux: yes | 10:28 |
| JohnFlux | Hobbsee: the food was _at_ google for free | 10:28 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ahhh. okay | 10:29 |
| Hobbsee | JohnFlux: i'd heard otherwise | 10:29 |
| JohnFlux | Hobbsee: and you got like $20 a day for evening food | 10:29 |
| Hobbsee | JohnFlux: neat | 10:29 |
| JohnFlux | I gained like 10 KG there! | 10:29 |
| JohnFlux | too much food! | 10:29 |
| Noel_Torres | May I say one more thing? | 10:29 |
| Hobbsee | hehe. sounds good - as i need to | 10:29 |
| Riddell | Noel_Torres: please do | 10:29 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: is the train more expensive than to fly? | 10:30 |
| Noel_Torres | Ok, thanks. We're starting a community for three Canary Islands's Linux distributions | 10:30 |
| Hobbsee | ah, so more people have been thinking of taking the train | 10:30 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: sometimes, although canonical should pay | 10:30 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: I don't suggest you do :) | 10:30 |
| Noel_Torres | it's called HeXprides (www.hexperides.org) | 10:30 |
| allee | Hobbsee: you too? | 10:30 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: why? | 10:30 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: yeah but there's the woman | 10:30 |
| Hobbsee | allee: thinking about it | 10:30 |
| Noel_Torres | one of the distros (meduxa) is kubuntu based, and other one is Ubuntu based | 10:31 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: unless we put here in the luggage or something | 10:31 |
| Noel_Torres | so we'll have a big community (we at least hope so) | 10:31 |
| allee | Hobbsee: train? From Australia? Interesting! | 10:31 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: fair point. there's also the planet of course | 10:31 |
| JohnFlux | meh | 10:31 |
| JohnFlux | the planes fly to carry goods | 10:31 |
| Noel_Torres | and we want to determine the best way for general (K)ubuntu and HeXprides communities to interact | 10:31 |
| JohnFlux | people don't weigh much | 10:32 |
| Hobbsee | allee: heh. no, only from madrid | 10:32 |
| JohnFlux | that's why easyjet etc offer such low fares | 10:32 |
| JohnFlux | the money from people doesn't even cover the salaries | 10:32 |
| JohnFlux | all the money is from cargo shipping | 10:32 |
| JohnFlux | if nobody at all flew, easyjet etc would still fly as many planes | 10:33 |
| JohnFlux | :-) | 10:33 |
| JohnFlux | or something | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: what are the tentative plans for kde 4 and feisty+1? | 10:33 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: well, that's what we'll be discussing in that session :) | 10:35 |
| Riddell | Noel_Torres: ok, I've put that down too | 10:35 |
| allee | Hobbsee: fwiw: everything we plan to do with KDE 3 has to be done with an eye on how to do it in KDE 4 | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | allee: true | 10:35 |
| Noel_Torres | Riddell: ok, thanks | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i realise that. i was more wantign to know if we'd be aiming for kde4 in this release or not | 10:35 |
| kwwii | SUSE is planning a release around the same time, or? if so, I would bet that they release with kde4 (even if they shop a kde3 as well) | 10:36 |
| allee | Hobbsee: didn't read Riddels blog? | 10:36 |
| kwwii | s/shop/ship | 10:36 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: probably not, KDE 4 release is after Kubuntu release | 10:36 |
| Hobbsee | allee: it's on planet, adn it's not showing as unread, so i would have | 10:36 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: right, OK | 10:36 |
| JohnFlux | you should probably allow for kde4 to be late by a few months | 10:37 |
| Riddell | that too | 10:37 |
| JohnFlux | it will quite probably be on time etc | 10:37 |
| Riddell | any other comments on the items I've scheduled? or suggestions for others? | 10:37 |
| JohnFlux | but you can't set a kubuntu release date on it | 10:37 |
| kwwii | we should just make sure that there is good docu on how to install kde4 (even if it is not done it will be of interest for many) | 10:37 |
| allee | Riddell: bluetooth is a mess. Can be made better in feisty+1 | 10:38 |
| Riddell | allee: would be nice | 10:38 |
| Riddell | I'll put that down | 10:38 |
| Riddell | groovy, seems we're done | 10:39 |
| Riddell | thanks all, see you en espanol | 10:39 |
| Riddell | any last questions? | 10:39 |
| manchicken | Yeah... | 10:40 |
| manchicken | Got a tow truck I could borrow? | 10:40 |
| Noel_Torres | i hope that's all | 10:40 |
| Riddell | thanks for coming Noel_Torres | 10:40 |
| allee | yeah, nothing from my side | 10:40 |
| Riddell | manchicken: can't say I do | 10:40 |
| manchicken | That's a shame. | 10:40 |
| Riddell | oh yes, everyone has to be up by 09:00 | 10:40 |
| Noel_Torres | don't worry, it has been a pleasure | 10:40 |
| Riddell | most important rule that | 10:41 |
| JohnFlux | I can do 9:00 easy | 10:41 |
| JohnFlux | that's like 11pm spainish time | 10:41 |
| === Hobbsee will be getting elkbuntu to wake her up... | ||
| JohnFlux | 11am | 10:41 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 10:41 |
| allee | Hobbsee: who's elkbuntu? | 10:41 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: only asking why taking the train was bad - i dont think you answered me | 10:41 |
| manchicken | I can do 0900 as long as the timezone change doesn't murder me. | 10:42 |
| kwwii | Hobbsee: a kiwi :p | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | allee: another aussie ubuntu girl - i'm rooming/travelling with her with her | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: nope, she's not a kiwi :P | 10:42 |
| lifeless | morning folk | 10:42 |
| JohnFlux | hmm, i can't find an airline that flys to San Pablo :-) | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | hiya lifeless | 10:42 |
| lifeless | *I'm* a kiwi :) | 10:42 |
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| kwwii | Hobbsee: oops, an aussie | 10:42 |
| JohnFlux | lifeless: heh, and lifeless | 10:42 |
| ajmitch | morning lifeless :) | 10:47 |
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| manchicken | What clever name are we going to use for feisty+1? | 10:49 |
| Noel_Torres | guppy grog ? | 10:50 |
| kwwii | grumpy groundhog (that's me) | 10:50 |
| manchicken | Goofy Goat? | 10:50 |
| kwwii | as my birthday is on groundhogs day | 10:50 |
| manchicken | Ah. | 10:50 |
| Mithrandir | it'll probably be two names, with the first one being an adjective and the other a noun. :-P | 10:50 |
| manchicken | That is quite clever. | 10:50 |
| manchicken | heh | 10:50 |
| kwwii | and I bet after 3 months working for the company he'll name the next product after me | 10:50 |
| ajmitch | grumpy is already taken | 10:51 |
| manchicken | heh | 10:51 |
| kwwii | Riddell: as far as the website, we are discussing the new cms, making a nice K layout and transferring the existing info, or? | 10:52 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: because you live on an island surrounded by water | 10:52 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: *grin* | 10:53 |
| ajmitch | Riddell: that's a continent. I live on an island | 10:53 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i only meant from madrid :P | 10:53 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: the travel agent does that for you | 10:53 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: from madrid is fine | 10:53 |
| === ajmitch needs to get stuff sorted with the travel agent asap | ||
| Riddell | ajmitch: looks like an archipeligo to me, but only because that's a cool word to say | 10:53 |
| kwwii | lol | 10:53 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: the Eyas one? | 10:53 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: yes | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: didnt you know about the train lines that go from australia, all the way into asia, and the ones that go around the rest of the wolrd? | 10:54 |
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| JohnFlux | Riddell: there website doesn't even work in firefox | 10:54 |
| JohnFlux | or at least, I couldn't work it out at all | 10:54 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: oh, over those big bridges? | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | JohnFlux: just email them. it's all flash enabled | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yep | 10:54 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I did take the train from Oslo to Hong Kong once, so you can nearly do that. :-) | 10:54 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: why do you need their website? just e-mail them | 10:54 |
| JohnFlux | Hobbsee: yeah I have flash installed | 10:54 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: :/ | 10:54 |
| manchicken | Hobbsee: Yeah, I've ridden the one from California to Tokyo several times ;) | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 10:54 |
| Riddell | Mithrandir: must have been a fun 6 weeks :) | 10:54 |
| Mithrandir | Riddell: more like three and a half, but yes. | 10:55 |
| kwwii | the trip is a vacation in itself | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | kwwii: it's long enough for me to fly to spain | 10:57 |
| === kwwii has to fly over mallorca | ||
| Mithrandir | kwwii: that was kinda the point. | 10:57 |
| === ajmitch has to go half way round the world | ||
| kwwii | Mithrandir: sounds like fun, actually | 10:57 |
| manchicken | I wonder how long the flight to Sevilla will actually be. | 10:58 |
| ajmitch | 30+ hours :) | 10:58 |
| Noel_Torres | well, I'm going bed | 10:58 |
| Noel_Torres | goodby all! | 10:58 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yep. it's nasty | 10:59 |
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| ajmitch | Hobbsee: are you thinking of taking the train from madrid? | 10:59 |
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| Hobbsee | ajmitch: thinking about it, yeah | 11:00 |
| ajmitch | brave | 11:00 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: why so? | 11:00 |
| ajmitch | oh, how much spanish can you read/speak? :) | 11:00 |
| Hobbsee | not a word | 11:01 |
| Hobbsee | (yet) | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 11:02 |
| === ajmitch probably wouldn't have time to see the country like that | ||
| ajmitch | back later | 11:02 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: if you go by train, will you still do that via eyas? | 11:05 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: no, I didn't | 11:06 |
| Riddell | although I believe you can | 11:06 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: you've already booked? | 11:06 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: yes | 11:06 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: How much did it cost? | 11:06 |
| Riddell | dunno, someone else did it | 11:06 |
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| [ade] | missed it entirely, i suppose | 11:49 |
| Riddell | hi [ade] | 11:49 |
| Riddell | [ade] : -> #kubuntu-devel | 11:49 |
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