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sid@schedule New_York06:29
ubotuSchedule for America/New_York: 27 Mar 04:00: MOTU | 27 Mar 16:00: Technical Board | 28 Mar 16:00: Edubuntu | 28 Mar 18:00: Xubuntu | 29 Mar 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Apr 16:00: Marketing Team06:29
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 27 Mar 08:00 UTC: MOTU | 27 Mar 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 28 Mar 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 28 Mar 22:00 UTC: Xubuntu | 29 Mar 21:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Apr 20:00 UTC: Marketing Team
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DarkSun88Hi all07:25
BFTDhi07:25
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manchickenI R Here10:03
=== allee too
Riddelloh hi10:04
RiddellJohnFlux?10:05
JohnFluxhey10:05
RiddellNoel Torres about?10:06
Riddellhas everyone been contacted by canonical?10:07
JohnFluxI haven't10:07
RiddellJohnFlux: they've probably been trying your kdemail.net address10:08
enviteI'm Noel Torres10:08
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kwwiihi10:08
Noel_TorresI'm usually Envite in chats, mails, svn, ...10:08
RiddellJohnFlux: please e-mail claire.newman@canonical.com and say who you are and ask for details for the travel agent10:08
JohnFluxRiddell: ah, and the servers aren't working that well10:08
alleeRiddell: yes,  I've confirmed the flight  with Claire already10:08
RiddellJohnFlux: I'm going by train, if you want to get the same trains let me know10:09
Riddellmanchicken: your travel sorted?10:09
Riddellhi Noel_Torres, pleased to meet you10:09
RiddellNoel_Torres: are you coming to UDS and/or UES?10:09
Noel_TorresNo, i'll not10:09
manchickenI'm waiting for Canonical's travel folks to get back to me.  They asked me to confirm my travel dates, I did, haven't heard from them since.10:10
Noel_Torressomebody must keep the fort :)10:10
Noel_Torrespleased to meet you too10:10
RiddellNoel_Torres: ok, so Cristo is coming and Agustn right?10:10
Noel_TorresYes, but probably they will be three10:10
RiddellNoel_Torres: do you know who else?10:10
Noel_TorresCristo, Agustn and Gonzalo Aller10:11
manchickenI doubt that they sent anything, but there was a slight snafu on my mail account that could have missed it, but it was a very small window.10:11
RiddellNoel_Torres: ok, do you know if they're all staying for the whole thing?10:11
Riddellmanchicken: just e-mail them in a day or two if you don't hear back10:12
manchickenRighto.10:12
Noel_TorresAbout staying I don't know, about (very) interested in assist, no10:12
alleemanchicken: I've confirmed this morning ~ 1.00 and Claire replied okay-thx two hours later10:13
allee11.00 that is10:13
Noel_TorresAgustin and Gonzalo wants to assist to education and community days, and Cristo to coding days10:13
Noel_Torresmostly10:13
RiddellNoel_Torres: ok, tell them to make sure it's clear to Claire Newman who is staying for which days10:14
alleedid anyone wake up Hobbsee?10:14
Riddellallee: I phoned, got an answerphone10:14
Noel_TorresI'll tell them10:14
Riddellnext thing is you should all register to be at the meeting on launchpad https://code.beta.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/+attend10:14
allee:)10:14
manchickenallee: Are you going through their travel folks?10:14
Riddellor rather https://code.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/+attend10:15
alleemanchicken: yes,  dionne@eyas10:15
kwwiiRiddell: do I need to add myself to that page too?10:16
Riddellkwwii: yes10:17
Riddellfrom  2007-05-06  to  2007-05-1110:17
kwwiiRiddell: thnx10:18
Riddellis everyone clear that this isn't a conference?  it's a summit to write specs for the next 6 months based on small group sessions10:18
manchickenOoh, I don't now the times....10:18
Noel_TorresWe know10:18
Riddellmanchicken: just the date is enough10:18
manchickenRighto.10:18
manchickenso 5/6 through 5/11?10:19
alleemanchicken: see on the right hand side.  but looks like they are not used on the left hand side ;)10:19
Riddellmanchicken: 21:17 < Riddell> from  2007-05-06  to  2007-05-1110:19
manchickenBrewtiful.10:19
manchickenOoh, will there be beer or will I have to provide my own?10:20
Riddellall meals are paid for10:20
manchickenI can do either, I just need to know how much a tasty beer is over there.10:20
Riddellsometimes conferences we have dinner in the hotel, some out10:20
manchickenah.10:20
Riddelldon't know which will happen this time10:20
JohnFluxRiddell: shall I speak to Claire about trying to share a room with my wife there?10:20
RiddellJohnFlux: yes10:20
JohnFluxah ha!10:21
kwwiimanchicken: beer is resonable but you have to pay for it ;-)10:21
JohnFluxyou just said it wasn't a conference :P10:21
Riddellmanchicken: if we eat out then you get a daily allowance for dinner.  if you want you can eat cheap porridge and spend the rest on beer10:21
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manchickenWhen I did the Perl Hackathon there was beer provided, but they certainly accepted contributions :)10:22
alleelol10:22
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manchickenAh.  Righto.10:22
alleeHobbsee: morning!10:22
manchickenI like cheap porridge as long as there's tasty beer.10:22
manchicken:)10:22
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manchickenGrain carbos and beer.  THAT, my friends, is how to get through college.10:22
manchicken(even though I never got through)10:22
kwwii;-)10:22
manchickenkwwii: BTW, is it my imagination or did you redo the login screen for feisty?10:23
Riddellnow the agenda10:23
RiddellI'm not sure why but they don't seem to be using launchpad for registering specs this time10:23
kwwiimanchicken: not since I changed it the first time10:23
Riddellbut my list so far is...10:23
RiddellAdept User Notifications10:23
RiddellAdept Cdrom Upgrades10:23
RiddellKubuntu Accessibilty Keyboard10:23
RiddellKubuntu Kiosktool10:23
RiddellKubuntu Feisty+1 KDE 4 Plan10:23
RiddellKubuntu System Settings for KDE 410:23
RiddellKubuntu Guidance for KDE 410:23
RiddellKubuntu Restricted Manager10:23
RiddellKubuntu Feisty+1 Adept Plan10:23
RiddellEdubuntu KDE10:23
RiddellKubuntu Website10:23
Riddellany suggestions or questions about those?10:23
Noel_Torresyes10:24
Hobbseeheya!10:24
Hobbseesorry for lateness10:24
Riddellmorning Hobbsee10:24
Noel_Torreswe're using RT as our bugs submitting and managing system10:24
RiddellHobbsee: is your travel sorted?10:24
kwwiiRiddell: there will probably be one for new artwork for derivatives as well10:24
Noel_Torresand we'll have a very big user base10:24
HobbseeRiddell: not yet.  in discussions with the travel agent10:24
Hobbseehad to wait to see if elkbuntu was getting sponsored yet10:24
Riddellkwwii: you should add it to https://wiki.canonical.com/UDS-Sevilla/Agenda10:24
Noel_Torresso we want to find the way of joining our system with official ubuntu/kubuntu bugtracking systems10:25
kwwiiRiddell: will do...wanted to talk to Mark about that first though10:25
RiddellNoel_Torres: I'm sure there is, I'll add that to the agenda, it'll need a launchpad person there10:25
Noel_Torresand we want to talk about kwifimanager, ltsp, monitoring, sudo&kdesudo and kmenu10:25
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RiddellNoel_Torres: I can add a general meduxa and Kubuntu session too10:26
Noel_Torresand by last thing (I'm sorry but i have a hardcopy by Agustin)10:26
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RiddellNoel_Torres: it's all good10:26
Noel_Torreswe're using MediaWiki for generating content and we want to submit to Ubuntu10:27
alleeoh, https://wiki.canonical.com/UDS-Sevilla/Agenda is password protected10:27
Noel_Torresmainly kubuntu user manuals10:27
JohnFluxRiddell: I don't have access to that page you said10:27
HobbseeRiddell: i think i'm at Ubucon the day before, actually10:27
RiddellJohnFlux: no, it's top secret10:27
RiddellJohnFlux: I'm not sure why, but that's the way they're doing it10:27
JohnFluxRiddell: I did have an email from claire - I had just ignored it :-D10:28
RiddellNoel_Torres: ok, I'll add a session for that too10:28
HobbseeRiddell: are you sure that all meals are paid for?  apparently for MTV that didnt happen.  was that canonical employees only?10:28
JohnFluxRiddell: I've replied back and told her about the accomodation etc10:28
RiddellJohnFlux: tsk10:28
Noel_TorresRiddell: Ok, I'll tell Agustin and the others about that10:28
JohnFluxHobbsee: at google?10:28
RiddellHobbsee: at MTV lunch was free on google and dinner you paid for and claimed back from your daily allowance from canonical10:28
manchickenSorry, having to deal with a car problem, I'm trying to pay attention :)10:28
HobbseeJohnFlux: yes10:28
JohnFluxHobbsee: the food was _at_ google for free10:28
HobbseeRiddell: ahhh.  okay10:29
HobbseeJohnFlux: i'd heard otherwise10:29
JohnFluxHobbsee: and you got like $20 a day for evening food10:29
HobbseeJohnFlux: neat10:29
JohnFluxI gained like 10 KG there!10:29
JohnFluxtoo much food!10:29
Noel_TorresMay I say one more thing?10:29
Hobbseehehe.  sounds good - as i need to10:29
RiddellNoel_Torres: please do10:29
JohnFluxRiddell: is the train more expensive than to fly?10:30
Noel_TorresOk, thanks. We're starting a community for three Canary Islands's Linux distributions10:30
Hobbseeah, so more people have been thinking of taking the train10:30
RiddellJohnFlux: sometimes, although canonical should pay10:30
RiddellHobbsee: I don't suggest you do :)10:30
Noel_Torresit's called HeXprides (www.hexperides.org)10:30
alleeHobbsee: you too?10:30
HobbseeRiddell: why?10:30
JohnFluxRiddell: yeah but there's the woman10:30
Hobbseeallee: thinking about it10:30
Noel_Torresone of the distros (meduxa) is kubuntu based, and other one is Ubuntu based10:31
JohnFluxRiddell: unless we put here in the luggage or something10:31
Noel_Torresso we'll have a big community (we at least hope so)10:31
alleeHobbsee: train? From Australia?  Interesting!10:31
RiddellJohnFlux: fair point.  there's also the planet of course10:31
JohnFluxmeh10:31
JohnFluxthe planes fly to carry goods10:31
Noel_Torresand we want to determine the best way for general (K)ubuntu and HeXprides communities to interact10:31
JohnFluxpeople don't weigh much10:32
Hobbseeallee: heh.  no, only from madrid10:32
JohnFluxthat's why easyjet etc offer such low fares10:32
JohnFluxthe money from people doesn't even cover the salaries10:32
JohnFluxall the money is from cargo shipping10:32
JohnFluxif nobody at all flew, easyjet etc would still fly as many planes10:33
JohnFlux:-)10:33
JohnFluxor something10:33
HobbseeRiddell: what are the tentative plans for kde 4 and feisty+1?10:33
RiddellHobbsee: well, that's what we'll be discussing in that session :)10:35
RiddellNoel_Torres: ok, I've put that down too10:35
alleeHobbsee: fwiw: everything we plan to do with KDE 3 has to be done with an eye on how to do it in KDE 410:35
Hobbseeallee: true10:35
Noel_TorresRiddell: ok, thanks10:35
HobbseeRiddell: i realise that.  i was more wantign to know if we'd be aiming for kde4 in this release or not10:35
kwwiiSUSE is planning a release around the same time, or? if so, I would bet that they release with kde4 (even if they shop a kde3 as well)10:36
alleeHobbsee: didn't read Riddels blog?10:36
kwwiis/shop/ship10:36
RiddellHobbsee: probably not, KDE 4 release is after Kubuntu release10:36
Hobbseeallee: it's on planet, adn it's not showing as unread, so i would have10:36
HobbseeRiddell: right, OK10:36
JohnFluxyou should probably allow for kde4 to be late by a few months10:37
Riddellthat too10:37
JohnFluxit will quite probably be on time etc10:37
Riddellany other comments on the items I've scheduled?  or suggestions for others?10:37
JohnFluxbut you can't set a kubuntu release date on it10:37
kwwiiwe should just make sure that there is good docu on how to install kde4 (even if it is not done it will be of interest for many)10:37
alleeRiddell: bluetooth is a mess.  Can be made better in feisty+110:38
Riddellallee: would be nice10:38
RiddellI'll put that down10:38
Riddellgroovy, seems we're done10:39
Riddellthanks all, see you en espanol10:39
Riddellany last questions?10:39
manchickenYeah...10:40
manchickenGot a tow truck I could borrow?10:40
Noel_Torresi hope that's all10:40
Riddellthanks for coming Noel_Torres10:40
alleeyeah, nothing from my side10:40
Riddellmanchicken: can't say I do10:40
manchickenThat's a shame.10:40
Riddelloh yes, everyone has to be up by 09:0010:40
Noel_Torresdon't worry, it has been a pleasure10:40
Riddellmost important rule that10:41
JohnFluxI can do 9:00 easy10:41
JohnFluxthat's like 11pm spainish time10:41
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JohnFlux11am10:41
Hobbsee:P10:41
alleeHobbsee: who's elkbuntu?10:41
HobbseeRiddell: only asking why taking the train was bad - i dont think you answered me10:41
manchickenI can do 0900 as long as the timezone change doesn't murder me.10:42
kwwiiHobbsee: a kiwi :p10:42
Hobbseeallee: another aussie ubuntu girl - i'm rooming/travelling with her with her10:42
Hobbseekwwii: nope, she's not a kiwi :P10:42
lifelessmorning folk10:42
JohnFluxhmm, i can't find an airline that flys to San Pablo :-)10:42
Hobbseehiya lifeless10:42
lifeless*I'm* a kiwi :)10:42
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kwwiiHobbsee: oops, an aussie10:42
JohnFluxlifeless: heh, and lifeless10:42
ajmitchmorning lifeless :)10:47
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manchickenWhat clever name are we going to use for feisty+1?10:49
Noel_Torresguppy grog ?10:50
kwwiigrumpy groundhog (that's me)10:50
manchickenGoofy Goat?10:50
kwwiias my birthday is on groundhogs day10:50
manchickenAh.10:50
Mithrandirit'll probably be two names, with the first one being an adjective and the other a noun. :-P10:50
manchickenThat is quite clever.10:50
manchickenheh10:50
kwwiiand I bet after 3 months working for the company he'll name the next product after me10:50
ajmitchgrumpy is already taken10:51
manchickenheh10:51
kwwiiRiddell: as far as the website, we are discussing the new cms, making a nice K layout and transferring the existing info, or?10:52
RiddellHobbsee: because you live on an island surrounded by water10:52
HobbseeRiddell: *grin*10:53
ajmitchRiddell: that's a continent. I live on an island10:53
HobbseeRiddell: i only meant from madrid :P10:53
RiddellJohnFlux: the travel agent does that for you10:53
RiddellHobbsee: from madrid is fine10:53
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Riddellajmitch: looks like an archipeligo to me, but only because that's a cool word to say10:53
kwwiilol10:53
JohnFluxRiddell: the Eyas one?10:53
RiddellJohnFlux: yes10:54
HobbseeRiddell: didnt you know about the train lines that go from australia, all the way into asia, and the ones that go around the rest of the wolrd?10:54
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JohnFluxRiddell: there website doesn't even work in firefox10:54
JohnFluxor at least, I couldn't work it out at all10:54
ajmitchHobbsee: oh, over those big bridges?10:54
HobbseeJohnFlux: just email them.  it's all flash enabled10:54
Hobbseeajmitch: yep10:54
MithrandirHobbsee: I did take the train from Oslo to Hong Kong once, so you can nearly do that. :-)10:54
RiddellJohnFlux: why do you need their website?  just e-mail them10:54
JohnFluxHobbsee: yeah I have flash installed10:54
JohnFluxRiddell: :/10:54
manchickenHobbsee: Yeah, I've ridden the one from California to Tokyo several times ;)10:54
Hobbsee:P10:54
RiddellMithrandir: must have been a fun 6 weeks :)10:54
MithrandirRiddell: more like three and a half, but yes.10:55
kwwiithe trip is a vacation in itself10:56
ajmitchkwwii: it's long enough for me to fly to spain10:57
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Mithrandirkwwii: that was kinda the point.10:57
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kwwiiMithrandir: sounds like fun, actually10:57
manchickenI wonder how long the flight to Sevilla will actually be.10:58
ajmitch30+ hours :)10:58
Noel_Torreswell, I'm going bed10:58
Noel_Torresgoodby all!10:58
Hobbseeajmitch: yep.  it's nasty10:59
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ajmitchHobbsee: are you thinking of taking the train from madrid?10:59
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Hobbseeajmitch: thinking about it, yeah11:00
ajmitchbrave11:00
Hobbseeajmitch: why so?11:00
ajmitchoh, how much spanish can you read/speak? :)11:00
Hobbseenot a word11:01
Hobbsee(yet)11:01
ajmitchhehe11:02
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ajmitchback later11:02
JohnFluxRiddell: if you go by train, will you still do that via eyas?11:05
RiddellJohnFlux: no, I didn't11:06
Riddellalthough I believe you can11:06
JohnFluxRiddell: you've already booked?11:06
RiddellJohnFlux: yes11:06
JohnFluxRiddell: How much did it cost?11:06
Riddelldunno, someone else did it11:06
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[ade] missed it entirely, i suppose11:49
Riddellhi [ade] 11:49
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