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[10:05] hey [10:06] Noel Torres about? [10:07] has everyone been contacted by canonical? [10:07] I haven't [10:08] JohnFlux: they've probably been trying your kdemail.net address [10:08] I'm Noel Torres === kwwii [n=kwwii@khepri.openbios.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === envite is now known as Noel_Torres [10:08] hi [10:08] I'm usually Envite in chats, mails, svn, ... [10:08] JohnFlux: please e-mail claire.newman@canonical.com and say who you are and ask for details for the travel agent [10:08] Riddell: ah, and the servers aren't working that well [10:08] Riddell: yes, I've confirmed the flight with Claire already [10:09] JohnFlux: I'm going by train, if you want to get the same trains let me know [10:09] manchicken: your travel sorted? [10:09] hi Noel_Torres, pleased to meet you [10:09] Noel_Torres: are you coming to UDS and/or UES? [10:09] No, i'll not [10:10] I'm waiting for Canonical's travel folks to get back to me. They asked me to confirm my travel dates, I did, haven't heard from them since. [10:10] somebody must keep the fort :) [10:10] pleased to meet you too [10:10] Noel_Torres: ok, so Cristo is coming and Agustn right? [10:10] Yes, but probably they will be three [10:10] Noel_Torres: do you know who else? [10:11] Cristo, Agustn and Gonzalo Aller [10:11] I doubt that they sent anything, but there was a slight snafu on my mail account that could have missed it, but it was a very small window. [10:11] Noel_Torres: ok, do you know if they're all staying for the whole thing? [10:12] manchicken: just e-mail them in a day or two if you don't hear back [10:12] Righto. [10:12] About staying I don't know, about (very) interested in assist, no [10:13] manchicken: I've confirmed this morning ~ 1.00 and Claire replied okay-thx two hours later [10:13] 11.00 that is [10:13] Agustin and Gonzalo wants to assist to education and community days, and Cristo to coding days [10:13] mostly [10:14] Noel_Torres: ok, tell them to make sure it's clear to Claire Newman who is staying for which days [10:14] did anyone wake up Hobbsee? [10:14] allee: I phoned, got an answerphone [10:14] I'll tell them [10:14] next thing is you should all register to be at the meeting on launchpad https://code.beta.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/+attend [10:14] :) [10:14] allee: Are you going through their travel folks? [10:15] or rather https://code.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/+attend [10:15] manchicken: yes, dionne@eyas [10:16] Riddell: do I need to add myself to that page too? [10:17] kwwii: yes [10:17] from 2007-05-06 to 2007-05-11 [10:18] Riddell: thnx [10:18] is everyone clear that this isn't a conference? it's a summit to write specs for the next 6 months based on small group sessions [10:18] Ooh, I don't now the times.... [10:18] We know [10:18] manchicken: just the date is enough [10:18] Righto. [10:19] so 5/6 through 5/11? [10:19] manchicken: see on the right hand side. but looks like they are not used on the left hand side ;) [10:19] manchicken: 21:17 < Riddell> from 2007-05-06 to 2007-05-11 [10:19] Brewtiful. [10:20] Ooh, will there be beer or will I have to provide my own? [10:20] all meals are paid for [10:20] I can do either, I just need to know how much a tasty beer is over there. [10:20] sometimes conferences we have dinner in the hotel, some out [10:20] ah. [10:20] don't know which will happen this time [10:20] Riddell: shall I speak to Claire about trying to share a room with my wife there? [10:20] JohnFlux: yes [10:21] ah ha! [10:21] manchicken: beer is resonable but you have to pay for it ;-) [10:21] you just said it wasn't a conference :P [10:21] manchicken: if we eat out then you get a daily allowance for dinner. if you want you can eat cheap porridge and spend the rest on beer === kwwii wonders who's wife he gets to room with [10:22] When I did the Perl Hackathon there was beer provided, but they certainly accepted contributions :) [10:22] lol === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:22] Ah. Righto. [10:22] Hobbsee: morning! [10:22] I like cheap porridge as long as there's tasty beer. [10:22] :) === fernando__ [n=fernando@189.0.136.73] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:22] Grain carbos and beer. THAT, my friends, is how to get through college. [10:22] (even though I never got through) [10:22] ;-) [10:23] kwwii: BTW, is it my imagination or did you redo the login screen for feisty? [10:23] now the agenda [10:23] I'm not sure why but they don't seem to be using launchpad for registering specs this time [10:23] manchicken: not since I changed it the first time [10:23] but my list so far is... [10:23] Adept User Notifications [10:23] Adept Cdrom Upgrades [10:23] Kubuntu Accessibilty Keyboard [10:23] Kubuntu Kiosktool [10:23] Kubuntu Feisty+1 KDE 4 Plan [10:23] Kubuntu System Settings for KDE 4 [10:23] Kubuntu Guidance for KDE 4 [10:23] Kubuntu Restricted Manager [10:23] Kubuntu Feisty+1 Adept Plan [10:23] Edubuntu KDE [10:23] Kubuntu Website [10:23] any suggestions or questions about those? [10:24] yes [10:24] heya! [10:24] sorry for lateness [10:24] morning Hobbsee [10:24] we're using RT as our bugs submitting and managing system [10:24] Hobbsee: is your travel sorted? [10:24] Riddell: there will probably be one for new artwork for derivatives as well [10:24] and we'll have a very big user base [10:24] Riddell: not yet. in discussions with the travel agent [10:24] had to wait to see if elkbuntu was getting sponsored yet [10:24] kwwii: you should add it to https://wiki.canonical.com/UDS-Sevilla/Agenda [10:25] so we want to find the way of joining our system with official ubuntu/kubuntu bugtracking systems [10:25] Riddell: will do...wanted to talk to Mark about that first though [10:25] Noel_Torres: I'm sure there is, I'll add that to the agenda, it'll need a launchpad person there [10:25] and we want to talk about kwifimanager, ltsp, monitoring, sudo&kdesudo and kmenu === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:26] Noel_Torres: I can add a general meduxa and Kubuntu session too [10:26] and by last thing (I'm sorry but i have a hardcopy by Agustin) === libervisco [n=libervis@tuxhacker/libervis] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:26] Noel_Torres: it's all good [10:27] we're using MediaWiki for generating content and we want to submit to Ubuntu [10:27] oh, https://wiki.canonical.com/UDS-Sevilla/Agenda is password protected [10:27] mainly kubuntu user manuals [10:27] Riddell: I don't have access to that page you said [10:27] Riddell: i think i'm at Ubucon the day before, actually [10:27] JohnFlux: no, it's top secret [10:27] JohnFlux: I'm not sure why, but that's the way they're doing it [10:28] Riddell: I did have an email from claire - I had just ignored it :-D [10:28] Noel_Torres: ok, I'll add a session for that too [10:28] Riddell: are you sure that all meals are paid for? apparently for MTV that didnt happen. was that canonical employees only? [10:28] Riddell: I've replied back and told her about the accomodation etc [10:28] JohnFlux: tsk [10:28] Riddell: Ok, I'll tell Agustin and the others about that [10:28] Hobbsee: at google? [10:28] Hobbsee: at MTV lunch was free on google and dinner you paid for and claimed back from your daily allowance from canonical [10:28] Sorry, having to deal with a car problem, I'm trying to pay attention :) [10:28] JohnFlux: yes [10:28] Hobbsee: the food was _at_ google for free [10:29] Riddell: ahhh. okay [10:29] JohnFlux: i'd heard otherwise [10:29] Hobbsee: and you got like $20 a day for evening food [10:29] JohnFlux: neat [10:29] I gained like 10 KG there! [10:29] too much food! [10:29] May I say one more thing? [10:29] hehe. sounds good - as i need to [10:29] Noel_Torres: please do [10:30] Riddell: is the train more expensive than to fly? [10:30] Ok, thanks. We're starting a community for three Canary Islands's Linux distributions [10:30] ah, so more people have been thinking of taking the train [10:30] JohnFlux: sometimes, although canonical should pay [10:30] Hobbsee: I don't suggest you do :) [10:30] it's called HeXprides (www.hexperides.org) [10:30] Hobbsee: you too? [10:30] Riddell: why? [10:30] Riddell: yeah but there's the woman [10:30] allee: thinking about it [10:31] one of the distros (meduxa) is kubuntu based, and other one is Ubuntu based [10:31] Riddell: unless we put here in the luggage or something [10:31] so we'll have a big community (we at least hope so) [10:31] Hobbsee: train? From Australia? Interesting! [10:31] JohnFlux: fair point. there's also the planet of course [10:31] meh [10:31] the planes fly to carry goods [10:31] and we want to determine the best way for general (K)ubuntu and HeXprides communities to interact [10:32] people don't weigh much [10:32] allee: heh. no, only from madrid [10:32] that's why easyjet etc offer such low fares [10:32] the money from people doesn't even cover the salaries [10:32] all the money is from cargo shipping [10:33] if nobody at all flew, easyjet etc would still fly as many planes [10:33] :-) [10:33] or something [10:33] Riddell: what are the tentative plans for kde 4 and feisty+1? [10:35] Hobbsee: well, that's what we'll be discussing in that session :) [10:35] Noel_Torres: ok, I've put that down too [10:35] Hobbsee: fwiw: everything we plan to do with KDE 3 has to be done with an eye on how to do it in KDE 4 [10:35] allee: true [10:35] Riddell: ok, thanks [10:35] Riddell: i realise that. i was more wantign to know if we'd be aiming for kde4 in this release or not [10:36] SUSE is planning a release around the same time, or? if so, I would bet that they release with kde4 (even if they shop a kde3 as well) [10:36] Hobbsee: didn't read Riddels blog? [10:36] s/shop/ship [10:36] Hobbsee: probably not, KDE 4 release is after Kubuntu release [10:36] allee: it's on planet, adn it's not showing as unread, so i would have [10:36] Riddell: right, OK [10:37] you should probably allow for kde4 to be late by a few months [10:37] that too [10:37] it will quite probably be on time etc [10:37] any other comments on the items I've scheduled? or suggestions for others? [10:37] but you can't set a kubuntu release date on it [10:37] we should just make sure that there is good docu on how to install kde4 (even if it is not done it will be of interest for many) [10:38] Riddell: bluetooth is a mess. Can be made better in feisty+1 [10:38] allee: would be nice [10:38] I'll put that down [10:39] groovy, seems we're done [10:39] thanks all, see you en espanol [10:39] any last questions? [10:40] Yeah... [10:40] Got a tow truck I could borrow? [10:40] i hope that's all [10:40] thanks for coming Noel_Torres [10:40] yeah, nothing from my side [10:40] manchicken: can't say I do [10:40] That's a shame. [10:40] oh yes, everyone has to be up by 09:00 [10:40] don't worry, it has been a pleasure [10:41] most important rule that [10:41] I can do 9:00 easy [10:41] that's like 11pm spainish time === Hobbsee will be getting elkbuntu to wake her up... [10:41] 11am [10:41] :P [10:41] Hobbsee: who's elkbuntu? [10:41] Riddell: only asking why taking the train was bad - i dont think you answered me [10:42] I can do 0900 as long as the timezone change doesn't murder me. [10:42] Hobbsee: a kiwi :p [10:42] allee: another aussie ubuntu girl - i'm rooming/travelling with her with her [10:42] kwwii: nope, she's not a kiwi :P [10:42] morning folk [10:42] hmm, i can't find an airline that flys to San Pablo :-) [10:42] hiya lifeless [10:42] *I'm* a kiwi :) === BackwardsDown2 [n=niels@5351BB29.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:42] Hobbsee: oops, an aussie [10:42] lifeless: heh, and lifeless [10:47] morning lifeless :) === sacater [n=sacater@host81-154-199-254.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:49] What clever name are we going to use for feisty+1? [10:50] guppy grog ? [10:50] grumpy groundhog (that's me) [10:50] Goofy Goat? [10:50] as my birthday is on groundhogs day [10:50] Ah. [10:50] it'll probably be two names, with the first one being an adjective and the other a noun. :-P [10:50] That is quite clever. [10:50] heh [10:50] and I bet after 3 months working for the company he'll name the next product after me [10:51] grumpy is already taken [10:51] heh [10:52] Riddell: as far as the website, we are discussing the new cms, making a nice K layout and transferring the existing info, or? [10:52] Hobbsee: because you live on an island surrounded by water [10:53] Riddell: *grin* [10:53] Riddell: that's a continent. I live on an island [10:53] Riddell: i only meant from madrid :P [10:53] JohnFlux: the travel agent does that for you [10:53] Hobbsee: from madrid is fine === ajmitch needs to get stuff sorted with the travel agent asap [10:53] ajmitch: looks like an archipeligo to me, but only because that's a cool word to say [10:53] lol [10:53] Riddell: the Eyas one? [10:54] JohnFlux: yes [10:54] Riddell: didnt you know about the train lines that go from australia, all the way into asia, and the ones that go around the rest of the wolrd? === lucas_ [n=lucas@176.33.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:54] Riddell: there website doesn't even work in firefox [10:54] or at least, I couldn't work it out at all [10:54] Hobbsee: oh, over those big bridges? [10:54] JohnFlux: just email them. it's all flash enabled [10:54] ajmitch: yep [10:54] Hobbsee: I did take the train from Oslo to Hong Kong once, so you can nearly do that. :-) [10:54] JohnFlux: why do you need their website? just e-mail them [10:54] Hobbsee: yeah I have flash installed [10:54] Riddell: :/ [10:54] Hobbsee: Yeah, I've ridden the one from California to Tokyo several times ;) [10:54] :P [10:54] Mithrandir: must have been a fun 6 weeks :) [10:55] Riddell: more like three and a half, but yes. [10:56] the trip is a vacation in itself [10:57] kwwii: it's long enough for me to fly to spain === kwwii has to fly over mallorca [10:57] kwwii: that was kinda the point. === ajmitch has to go half way round the world [10:57] Mithrandir: sounds like fun, actually [10:58] I wonder how long the flight to Sevilla will actually be. [10:58] 30+ hours :) [10:58] well, I'm going bed [10:58] goodby all! [10:59] ajmitch: yep. it's nasty === Noel_Torres [n=envite@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [10:59] Hobbsee: are you thinking of taking the train from madrid? === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:00] ajmitch: thinking about it, yeah [11:00] brave [11:00] ajmitch: why so? [11:00] oh, how much spanish can you read/speak? :) [11:01] not a word [11:01] (yet) [11:02] hehe === ajmitch probably wouldn't have time to see the country like that [11:02] back later [11:05] Riddell: if you go by train, will you still do that via eyas? [11:06] JohnFlux: no, I didn't [11:06] although I believe you can [11:06] Riddell: you've already booked? [11:06] JohnFlux: yes [11:06] Riddell: How much did it cost? 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