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| TheMuso | Hey MOTUs. | 12:21 |
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| LaserJock | hi TheMuso | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | morning | 12:22 |
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| LaserJock | hi ajmitch ;-) | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | authtool done? | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | hah | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | I was hacking on it last night :) | 12:23 |
| danohuiginn | if I've subscribed the wrong team to a bug, can I unsubscribe them? | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | there's a *long* way before it'll be 'done' | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | danohuiginn: I know you can at least if you belong to the team | 12:24 |
| danohuiginn | LaserJock: no, I don't. Subscribed archive admins to a bug, rather than sending it through universe sponsors | 12:24 |
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| ajmitch | I wonder what sort of things people asked | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | danohuiginn: and if you go to the subscribe page it doesn't have an option? | 12:25 |
| danohuiginn | LaserJock: no, only to subscribe someone else as well | 12:26 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: Hey I like your blog post. | 12:32 |
| ajmitch | TheMuso: the bddebian interview? | 12:32 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: Yep. | 12:32 |
| ajmitch | yeah that was great | 12:32 |
| === ajmitch gets to read about the motu superstars | ||
| LaserJock | well, I need to do it better | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: interview crimsun! | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | I will | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | and you too | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | nah I'm not important | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | if I do 1 a week I can get 53 MOTU people interviewed in a year | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | 52 rather | 12:33 |
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| ajmitch | then we'll have to keep adding more so that you have no need to interview me :) | 12:34 |
| LaserJock | all of the MOTU Council will have to be interviewed | 12:35 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 12:35 |
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| LaserJock | lol | 12:36 |
| Seveas | LaserJock, "A MOTU a day, keeps the ajmitch away :p" | 12:37 |
| ajmitch | exactly! | 12:37 |
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| LaserJock | lol | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | reminds me, where's sistpoty? | 12:40 |
| LaserJock | Seveas: ubotu back up and running now? | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | sure, check -bugs | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | hm | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | bug 96002 | 12:42 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 96002 in gnome-volume-manager "Gnome Volume Manager don't work and the sound is very loud" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96002 | 12:42 |
| === ajmitch thinks that's not g-v-m :) | ||
| ajmitch | volume is a nicely overused word | 12:42 |
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| bddebian | heh | 12:47 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: ajmitch should have been your first man! | 12:48 |
| ajmitch | nah I would have taken 6 months to reply :) | 12:48 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: well, he's on my list too | 12:59 |
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| === bddebian hacks planet and erases entry | ||
| LaserJock | lol | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | shesh | 01:03 |
| bddebian | I look like the freakin' idiot that I am :'-( | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | I went to all that work and you guys are so negative ;-) | 01:03 |
| TheMuso | bddebian: Don't be so damn hard on yourself. | 01:03 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: They have no reason to be./ | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | last time I do anything nice for you guys | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | aw | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: the bddebian interview was great! | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | I'm not negative about the work you've done | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | I think he did great | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | just about interviewing me :) | 01:05 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: I very much appreciate the sentiment, I'm just not exactly a great example :-) | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | his stuff on the community and his advice was perfect | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | you are a perfect example Barry | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | you've been here through everything | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | you've had to step out for a while | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | you've come back | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | you've been yelled at by core-devs and still stuck through it :-) | 01:06 |
| geser | bddebian: if you can be a MOTU than everyone can | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: you're a better example than I am | 01:07 |
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| Nafallo | hmm | 01:08 |
| bddebian | geser: Hrm, I'm not quite sure how I should take that? :-) | 01:08 |
| Nafallo | I think I might have uploaded gajim a while ago :-P | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | the point is | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | Behind Ubuntu isn't about showing off the superstars so much | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | it's about giving people a view of the real MOTU | 01:09 |
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| LaserJock | that we're just real people like everybody else | 01:09 |
| Nafallo | should have been Behind He-Man then ;-) | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | heh | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | so I'm going to interview new MOTUs | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | probably even Hopefuls | 01:10 |
| geser | ajmitch: there is your solution: become a MOTU superstar to avoid an interview :) | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | geser: darn, that means having to do work | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | well, you know the real way to get out of it | 01:10 |
| Nafallo | LaserJock: sounds good. then you won't interview me or ajmitch :-) | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | if *you* had come up with it | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | I don't have to get interviewed because I'm running it ;-) | 01:11 |
| Nafallo | haha | 01:11 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: I think we can solve that one easily enough. | 01:11 |
| LaserJock | no way | 01:11 |
| TheMuso | You're not getting out of it that easily. Right guys? | 01:11 |
| LaserJock | ummm | 01:12 |
| Nafallo | ofcourse not :-) | 01:12 |
| ajmitch | TheMuso: I agree! | 01:13 |
| LaserJock | wow, we're up to 136 apps for SoC | 01:14 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Actually now that you mention it, you should have started with yourself :-) | 01:14 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: that's silly :-) | 01:14 |
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| Paddy_EIRE | could anyone help compiling an app called QFlash for ubuntu? | 01:51 |
| reitblatt | I can give it a try | 01:52 |
| Paddy_EIRE | well I extracted the file and did ./configure only for nothing to happen | 01:52 |
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| reitblatt | Paddy_EIRE: let's move this to #ubuntu | 01:53 |
| Paddy_EIRE | ok | 01:53 |
| ajmitch | tsmithe: you should try & make it clear that you're trying to raise funds for something :) | 02:01 |
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| reitblatt | can someone upload my patch for bug #84874 ? | 02:06 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 84874 in libopensync-plugin-google-calendar "missing helper" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84874 | 02:06 |
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| LaserJock | oh my, what a confusing blog post | 02:11 |
| ajmitch | which post? | 02:12 |
| ajmitch | reitblatt: I'd like to find out why it's mistakenly in main before touching it | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: tsmithe's | 02:12 |
| ajmitch | heh right | 02:13 |
| reitblatt | ajmitch: gotcha | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | I don't really get what he's saying | 02:13 |
| ajmitch | that there are 'mirrors' of the planet ubuntu content | 02:15 |
| ajmitch | and he doesn't like that | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | it does kinda stink that they just redo planet to get ad space | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | but it's kinda cool that they think it's worth it | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | there's more than one of them ripping off planet | 02:16 |
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| welshbyte | i don't really mind my blog feed being used wherever... it's the chance you take by being open source ;) | 02:19 |
| welshbyte | as long as no one changes what i say to make it look like i said something different, that is | 02:20 |
| _MMA_ | sigh | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | I agree | 02:23 |
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| joejaxx | grrr | 02:31 |
| joejaxx | diff -Nurp is not working | 02:31 |
| ajmitch | fix it! | 02:31 |
| joejaxx | ajmitch: i just tried creating a patch | 02:32 |
| joejaxx | but the -u application flag for diff is not working | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | lies | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | all lies | 02:32 |
| joejaxx | lol | 02:33 |
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| joejaxx | ajmitch: how does this look for bug 53001 | 02:38 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 53001 in wordpress "examples-mysql not adapted to ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53001 | 02:38 |
| joejaxx | http://fluxbuntu.org/bug53001.patch | 02:38 |
| ajmitch | ugh | 02:38 |
| ajmitch | don't drop virtual hosts into apache.conf :) | 02:39 |
| joejaxx | ajmitch: that was already there | 02:39 |
| ajmitch | use stuff like /etc/apache2/sites-available | 02:39 |
| ajmitch | well your patch has a lot of unnecessary changes then | 02:39 |
| ajmitch | including the whole debian changelog, etc | 02:39 |
| ajmitch | makes it hard ot see what you've changed | 02:39 |
| joejaxx | ajmitch: how do i make diff only look at changed files? | 02:40 |
| joejaxx | i thought it was diff -Nurp dir dir | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | aren't you using debdiff? | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | it's much easier | 02:40 |
| joejaxx | ok | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | debdiff oldversion.dsc newversion.dsc | 02:41 |
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| joejaxx | ajmitch: http://fluxbuntu.org/bug53001.patch | 04:31 |
| joejaxx | used debdiff this time :) | 04:31 |
| joejaxx | debdiff makes it much cleaner | 04:32 |
| joejaxx | or anyone else? | 04:38 |
| joejaxx | i wanted to know if i did that correctly or not | 04:38 |
| joejaxx | :) | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | probably | 04:39 |
| Fujitsu | Apart from breaking the FHS, looks OK. | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | now that there's not so much cruft I can see that it's not as crazy as I thought | 04:39 |
| joejaxx | :) | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: debian has a long history of that | 04:39 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: yeah i added a little summary to README.debian about that :P | 04:40 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch: Noted, but I still don't like it. | 04:40 |
| ajmitch | you don't need to like it | 04:40 |
| Fujitsu | Obviously. | 04:40 |
| joejaxx | so what happens next, upload it to the launchpad bug page? | 04:40 |
| joejaxx | as an attachment? | 04:42 |
| tritium | LaserJock: did you find out what's delaying the upload of l-r-m? | 04:55 |
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| ajmitch | hey tritium | 04:59 |
| tritium | hey there ajmitch | 04:59 |
| ajmitch | probably that it's the weekend :) | 04:59 |
| tritium | yeah, could be :) | 04:59 |
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| ajmitch | afaict it's just held up in binary NEW | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | one moment.. | 05:01 |
| tritium | k, thx | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | i386? | 05:02 |
| tritium | yep | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/313591 | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | resulting binaries on that page | 05:02 |
| tritium | gracias :) | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: oh, that's smart. I should have thought of that | 05:04 |
| tritium | Thanks, ajmitch. That's a big help | 05:06 |
| ajmitch | np | 05:06 |
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| Fujitsu | Thanks Amaranth. | 06:22 |
| Amaranth | little late :) | 06:22 |
| Amaranth | was busy in -effects | 06:23 |
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| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 06:54 |
| Fujitsu | Afternoon, Hobbsee. | 06:54 |
| Hobbsee | hey LaserJock, Fujitsu | 06:55 |
| RAOF | Hm. Bug #95814 seems to have had apport-retrace run over it (the need-amd64-retrace tag has been removed), but the stacktrace is still all "?? in ()" | 06:56 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95814 in banshee "[apport] banshee.exe crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 67344)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95814 | 06:56 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 67344 in banshee "Crash while importing / trying to play at the same time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67344 | 06:56 |
| Fujitsu | RAOF: Probably means that the debug symbols aren't around at the moment, or have been removed from the archive, or similar. | 06:57 |
| RAOF | Right, so it's not a misunderstanding on my part of how apport-retrace works? | 06:57 |
| Fujitsu | I don't believe so. | 06:58 |
| RAOF | Right. | 06:58 |
| RAOF | That's annoying :( | 06:59 |
| Fujitsu | The crashes need to be retraced before the symbols are removed from the repos, unfortunately. | 07:00 |
| RAOF | When are the symbols removed? | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | Probably when the next version is uploaded. | 07:01 |
| RAOF | My crash logs are from the most recent banshee. | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | Hm. | 07:01 |
| RAOF | My laptop's apt-cache seems to think there's the appropriate banshee-dbgsym package available, too. | 07:02 |
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| RAOF | Where would be the right place to file a bug about that? /apport? /malone? Is it bugworthy? | 07:09 |
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| superm1_ | RAOF, u mean what i just menionted at :02, or something that was mentioned in between my disconnect? | 07:11 |
| RAOF | superm1_: I don't see anything you mentioned at :02. I was refering to apport-retrace failing to create a useful stacktrace for banshee | 07:13 |
| superm1_ | RAOF, oh then it looks like my message was lost before i got disconnected then | 07:13 |
| superm1_ | i was asking racarr:, in the beryl packages that got into feisty, it appears that beryl-xgl is gone now (and hence beryl-manager is broke for xgl). was this intentional? | 07:13 |
| RAOF | You are, however, welcome to comment on my question :) | 07:13 |
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| superm1_ | RAOF, are you meaning to point out a bug in apport-retrace then i take it? | 07:15 |
| RAOF | Yes. | 07:15 |
| RAOF | Well, somewhere in the Malone/need-amd64-retrace tag/apport-retrace nexus. | 07:15 |
| Amaranth | arg! | 07:15 |
| superm1_ | i'd guess: https://launchpad.net/apport | 07:15 |
| Amaranth | some common package/app is doing evil things to users' home dir | 07:15 |
| superm1_ | with the bugs under that | 07:15 |
| Fujitsu | Um, RAOF, now I look at that bug... | 07:16 |
| Fujitsu | Don't file a bug. | 07:16 |
| Amaranth | i've gotten like 10 bugs in last 3 days from people saying alacarte is broken because ~/.local is owned by root | 07:16 |
| Fujitsu | RAOF: The retrace isn't finished yet. You'll see two extra comments added when it's done | 07:16 |
| RAOF | That's... awkward. | 07:16 |
| Fujitsu | How? | 07:16 |
| Amaranth | RAOF: also, older coredumps won't give good retraces | 07:17 |
| RAOF | That was in reference to Amaranth's problem of something chowning .local | 07:17 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 07:17 |
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| Amaranth | it's freaking annoying | 07:17 |
| RAOF | Amaranth: Yeah, but my coredump is nice and fresh. | 07:17 |
| RAOF | As of yesterday :) | 07:17 |
| Amaranth | iirc pitti said the retrace service had enough work to do to churn for the whole weekend | 07:18 |
| Fujitsu | It's taken the bug for processing, shouldn't be more than another few minutes. | 07:18 |
| Fujitsu | Actually. | 07:19 |
| Fujitsu | That's not the bug I thought it was... | 07:19 |
| Fujitsu | If it doesn't appear in a few minutes, it has probably choked on that retrace, and you should poke pitti about it. | 07:19 |
| Fujitsu | I see that the addition of the tag was 20 /hours/ ago, whereas I originally read minutes :-/ | 07:20 |
| RAOF | :) | 07:21 |
| RAOF | Compiz bug for you Amaranth! Someone else has found that the nvidia drivers suck :) | 07:21 |
| Amaranth | haha | 07:22 |
| === Amaranth is still chewing on compiz bug mail | ||
| RAOF | I'll reject it on the basis of evil nVidia, then :) | 07:23 |
| RAOF | That's ok, right Amaranth? | 07:24 |
| Amaranth | already done | 07:25 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO | http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html | ||
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| Amaranth | pochu: Ah, so you're the other one doing compiz bug triage. :) | 08:03 |
| ajmitch | RAOF: btw, stuff like mono apps often won't get a useful stacktrace, because they're run in a JIT | 08:03 |
| pochu | Amaranth: mostly desktop-effects :) | 08:03 |
| pochu | Amaranth: though my knowledge is minimun :( | 08:04 |
| pochu | but I help in what I can :) | 08:04 |
| Amaranth | Well, I remember I was looking for you a week or so ago to tell you not to upstream every single bug report. :) | 08:04 |
| Amaranth | But that doesn't seem to be a problem now so... | 08:04 |
| pochu | hehe, ok :) | 08:05 |
| Amaranth | btw, does the launchpad beta spit out a page that your browser wants to download for anyone else? | 08:05 |
| Amaranth | like 25% of the time when i try to use it | 08:05 |
| Amaranth | i thought it might just be me | 08:05 |
| pochu | Amaranth: a bin file? | 08:05 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 08:05 |
| pochu | Amaranth: known bug (also in productive LP) :( | 08:06 |
| pochu | though they don't know how to fix it hehe | 08:06 |
| Amaranth | is it just when it's under high load? | 08:06 |
| Amaranth | because lp also goes extremely slowly when it does it to me | 08:06 |
| Amaranth | which is kind of funny | 08:06 |
| pochu | it's always slow to me ;) | 08:06 |
| Amaranth | when it's going slow because of high load it makes you fetch most things twice, not exactly helping the load problems | 08:07 |
| Fujitsu | Amaranth: I get the same, the frequency changes too :( | 08:07 |
| Fujitsu | Really annoying. | 08:07 |
| Fujitsu | And it only started recently. | 08:07 |
| pochu | yeah, also the left bar doesn't work properly sometimes (need to refresh) | 08:07 |
| pochu | but we are beta testers, aren't we? :) | 08:08 |
| Amaranth | heh | 08:08 |
| crimsun | it's more funner on 56kbps dialup. No, really. It's ponies! | 08:08 |
| Fujitsu | pochu: That's like due to the Javascript not loading due to the same issue. | 08:08 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun: That sounds great! | 08:08 |
| pochu | Fujitsu: known bug? | 08:08 |
| Fujitsu | (you're on 56k now? I thought it was 28k...) | 08:08 |
| crimsun | it has always been 56kbps, but it's effectively 28.8 | 08:08 |
| Amaranth | pochu: same bug | 08:08 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 08:08 |
| pochu | ah :) | 08:09 |
| Amaranth | crimsun: that's...painful | 08:09 |
| crimsun | Amaranth: builds character | 08:09 |
| Amaranth | well, better than what i'll likely have as of sometime today | 08:09 |
| Amaranth | no internet :/ | 08:09 |
| pochu | where are u then? :) | 08:09 |
| Amaranth | unless these guys except half the money i owe today and the rest in 2 weeks | 08:09 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: you make a cup of coffee for every page load? | 08:09 |
| Fujitsu | My days of 28.8kbps are over as of about 6 months ago :) | 08:10 |
| crimsun | ajmitch: jog down the block, refill coffee, read the paper, ... | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | Amaranth: why so broke? | 08:10 |
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| Amaranth | ajmitch: just starting a new job | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | ah | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | oh dear | 08:10 |
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| Fujitsu | Oh dear, we're doomed. | 08:10 |
| === Fujitsu hides too. | ||
| Amaranth | that i'll only have for about a month if they don't let me go to spain :P | 08:10 |
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| ajmitch | good luck with that | 08:11 |
| === pochu is in spain :) | ||
| crimsun | LongPointyStick is enjoying the vestiges of beryl. | 08:11 |
| Amaranth | hell i'd be ready to smack something too ;) | 08:11 |
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| joejaxx | lol | 08:12 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 08:12 |
| Hobbsee | was | 08:12 |
| Amaranth | which reminds me, it's sad to see all the problems people are having with compiz in ubuntu | 08:12 |
| Amaranth | i guess it just shows how fast this stuff is moving | 08:12 |
| ajmitch | hey Hobbsee | 08:13 |
| Amaranth | because compiz from latest git is so much better in all the little things it fixes (and some big things) | 08:13 |
| ajmitch | Amaranth: so push to get it in | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 08:13 |
| Amaranth | seb128 tried getting a snapshop of the 0.4 head in | 08:13 |
| Amaranth | seems to have died | 08:13 |
| pochu | heya Hobbsee | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | hiya pochu | 08:13 |
| Amaranth | gandalfn is on a quest to backport half of git into the 0.3.6 package to work around UVF ;) | 08:14 |
| crimsun | that way madness lies. | 08:14 |
| Amaranth | i won't touch that package | 08:14 |
| crimsun | oh I remember the grey hairs with vlc and backporting round about, oh, say breezy | 08:14 |
| Amaranth | i've got this plugin to do edge resistance without wobbly but i just attached the plain .c file to the bug and left it for someone else to try to figure out | 08:15 |
| Amaranth | it's got like 20 patches | 08:15 |
| Amaranth | one reruns autoconf, another rebuilds the gconf schema... | 08:15 |
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| pochu | heya Lure | 08:17 |
| pochu | desktop-effects cleaned up :) just 1 bug unconfirmed, which is bug 94906. anybody want to finish the work? :) | 08:18 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 94906 in desktop-effects "Unable to use due to special xorg.conf settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94906 | 08:18 |
| Lure | hi pochu and motu! | 08:18 |
| Amaranth | pochu: dunno wtf they're talking about, since when did desktop-effects edit your xorg.conf? | 08:20 |
| ajmitch | restricted-manager does | 08:20 |
| Amaranth | hmm, maybe desktop-effects calls out to it | 08:20 |
| Amaranth | it does :/ | 08:21 |
| pochu | * Add 02_check_restricted_manager.patch: Call 'restricted-manager | 08:22 |
| pochu | --check-composite', and if that succeeded (i. e. a composite driver was | 08:22 |
| pochu | available and enabled), ask to restart the app after rebooting and exit. | 08:22 |
| Amaranth | pochu: reassign to restricted-manager and wishlist it | 08:22 |
| pochu | changelog from pitti | 08:22 |
| pochu | Amaranth: ok :) | 08:22 |
| pochu | thanks ;) | 08:22 |
| pochu | do you guys know what has happened to Ubugtu? | 08:23 |
| Amaranth | bug 1 | 08:23 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 08:23 |
| ajmitch | it was killed off | 08:23 |
| Amaranth | they merged | 08:23 |
| pochu | have ubotu and ubugtu been merged? | 08:23 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 08:23 |
| pochu | :) | 08:23 |
| Amaranth | ubugtu was running some channel management stuff too, was kind of weird | 08:24 |
| pochu | then Seveas forgot to log ubotu in #ubuntu-iso :( | 08:24 |
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| Amaranth | pochu: nice, desktop-effects has 3 important bugs, one typo bug, and a couple wishlist/low bugs :) | 08:27 |
| Amaranth | now get compiz down to that ;) | 08:27 |
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| pochu | Amaranth: 104 bugs in compiz :-/ | 08:27 |
| pochu | 103 now :) | 08:27 |
| jussi01 | morning motu's | 08:27 |
| Amaranth | when i started it had 74 and i knocked it down to ~60 | 08:27 |
| Amaranth | i think half of them are actually bug 89189 | 08:28 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 89189 in xorg "No text in save/dialog boxes" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89189 | 08:28 |
| pochu | hehe | 08:28 |
| Amaranth | Burgundavia: are you still using compiz? | 08:28 |
| pochu | Amaranth: we can make a good bughelper clue :) | 08:29 |
| Amaranth | "some sort of invisible stuff" == that bug | 08:29 |
| Amaranth | generally | 08:29 |
| Burgundavia | compiz bugs used to be down at around 50 when I was doing it :) | 08:29 |
| Burgundavia | as for running compiz, no, I value stablity and not ripping out my hair | 08:29 |
| crimsun | there are no bugs, only features. | 08:29 |
| Amaranth | Burgundavia: do you have XAANoOffscreenPixmaps enabled in your xorg.conf? | 08:30 |
| Burgundavia | no idea, let me check | 08:30 |
| Amaranth | if not please add it, restart X, and test bug 38121 again :) | 08:30 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 38121 in compiz "gnome-window-decorator does not update titles" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38121 | 08:30 |
| Amaranth | should be in the Device section, btw | 08:35 |
| Seveas | @join #ubuntu-iso | 08:35 |
| Seveas | sorry pochu | 08:35 |
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| pochu | Seveas: thanks :) will ubotu take some time in join? | 08:37 |
| crimsun | pochu: do you have time to review #95514's affect on amule? | 08:38 |
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| pochu | bug 95514 | 08:38 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95514 in wxwidgets2.8 "[UVFe] wxwidgets 2.8.3.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95514 | 08:38 |
| pochu | crimsun: already running in amule (I have rebuilt it, didn't know whether that was neccessary or not) | 08:39 |
| pochu | crimsun: at least bug 68792 and bug 81980 are still there :-/ | 08:40 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 68792 in amule "amule crashes when trying to download kad nodes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68792 | 08:40 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 81980 in amule "Amule Crash when I try to get the server list" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81980 | 08:40 |
| crimsun | ok, so does 2.8.3.0 actually fix any of our reported bugs? | 08:43 |
| pochu | crimsun: not sure, but I think not :( | 08:44 |
| Amaranth | Burgundavia: Now that I look at it most of your bugs for compiz seem to be bug 89189 which is fixed by adding that option to xorg.conf | 08:44 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 89189 in xorg "No text in save/dialog boxes" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89189 | 08:45 |
| pochu | not sure about those apport reports (I'm not good with stacktraces) | 08:45 |
| Burgundavia | Amaranth: hmm, lovely. Why not turn the option on by default then? | 08:45 |
| pochu | but the changelog doesn't mention them | 08:45 |
| Amaranth | because it disabled most of the stuff that makes XAA useful and kills performance when you're not using compiz | 08:45 |
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| crimsun | pochu: if you're interested in wxw2.8, please continue to track it. Currently my vote is +0 for that UVFe | 08:47 |
| pochu | Seveas: thanks :) | 08:47 |
| pochu | crimsun: ok, I'll try to see if it fixes any known bug | 08:47 |
| crimsun | thanks | 08:48 |
| ajmitch | if you don't know of it fixing any bugs, why are you requesting it? | 08:48 |
| pochu | ajmitch: I thought it would fix some bugs (since it's a bugfix release) but I have looked at it after requesting it :/ | 08:48 |
| racarr | Amaranth: I still find "XAA" and "useful" being used in same same sentence funny | 08:49 |
| racarr | Amaranth: It's like "Disabling the firewall gets rid of the stuff that makes windows secure" | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | yeah well | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | it's a noticeable performance difference | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | and daniels said not to do it so... | 08:50 |
| racarr | It's strange because I have the same bug | 08:50 |
| racarr | on EXA | 08:50 |
| Amaranth | i'm thinking i should reassign bug 77164 to amarok | 08:51 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 77164 in compiz "Intense processor activity when Amarok is maximized" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77164 | 08:51 |
| Amaranth | the only thing i could think that would cause it is amarok redrawing part of itself very fast and causing lots of damage events | 08:51 |
| Amaranth | which, well, will make the WM spin more | 08:52 |
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| Amaranth | alright, compiz is down to 85 bugs | 09:19 |
| Amaranth | :D | 09:19 |
| Lathiat | hahaha | 09:20 |
| Lathiat | ONLY! | 09:21 |
| Fujitsu | At least it's in main. | 09:21 |
| Amaranth | Lathiat: a couple serious bugs, a dozen or so crashes that are two old to retrace, some wishlist stuff, etc | 09:23 |
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| dholbach | hellas | 09:36 |
| RAOF | As in "hella, yeah"? :) | 09:37 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: ping | 09:37 |
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| macd | RAOF, hows the IT world in AU ? | 09:37 |
| dholbach | RAOF: as in 'hello' in greek ;-) | 09:37 |
| === macd hears mixed things | ||
| RAOF | The IT world in .au is pretty much like the IT world everywhere else, I think :) | 09:38 |
| RAOF | dholbach: Cool, I learn (and probably forget) something new everyday :) | 09:38 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: pong | 09:39 |
| ajmitch | hey dholbach | 09:40 |
| dholbach | hey ajmitch | 09:41 |
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| Fujitsu | Too many AUians around at the moment. | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | yes | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | taking over the world | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | if only you can get of the island | 09:43 |
| RAOF | It's our afternoon. You should all be asleep :) | 09:43 |
| Fujitsu | That we are. | 09:43 |
| Fujitsu | Damnit. | 09:43 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: Isn't it like 3am where you are? | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | umm, almost 1am | 09:44 |
| ajmitch | RAOF: why should I be sleeping? | 09:44 |
| macd | if only they would give those AU's some more intarwebs | 09:44 |
| Amaranth | 3am here :/ | 09:45 |
| Fujitsu | macd: That would be nice... Our tubes are very clogged. | 09:45 |
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| macd | Fujitsu, yeah I have peers in AU that constantly complain about "regulated" and throttled internet | 09:45 |
| macd | I cant even fathom such things ;) | 09:46 |
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| Fujitsu | StevenK: Is it dieing, or too small? | 09:46 |
| macd | does it sound like a rock on the concrete when it spins yet ;) | 09:46 |
| StevenK | It's more mis-partitioned. | 09:47 |
| StevenK | And it's a PATA drive, whereas the new drive is a yummy SATA II drive. | 09:47 |
| macd | you know they make software for that sorta thing ;) | 09:47 |
| Fujitsu | macd: I was thinking the same. | 09:47 |
| Fujitsu | But SATAII sounds nicer. | 09:47 |
| macd | indeed it does | 09:47 |
| RAOF | ajmitch: When I'm awake, everyone else is meant to be asleep. It's a little known exclusion-principle. | 09:47 |
| macd | I picked up a 320gb sata2 for like 80 last week, I was so happy | 09:48 |
| StevenK | And it's also too small to really care much about fixing. | 09:48 |
| Fujitsu | RAOF: Except for the fact that half the active channel is in AU/NZ. | 09:48 |
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| macd | the rest are just underslept americans | 09:49 |
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| zakame | hi all | 10:14 |
| ajmitch | hey zakame | 10:14 |
| zakame | yo ajmitch | 10:14 |
| zakame | I'm on plan9 under qemu now, just testing :) | 10:14 |
| === StevenK waits for 9buntu to pop up. | ||
| zakame | hehehe | 10:16 |
| zakame | has anybody started with the revctl'd homedirs idea on GSoC2007? | 10:16 |
| phanatic | zakame: nobody went crazy hopefully :) | 10:21 |
| zakame | [no matches in 9.intro.pdf 9.ps 9.ps.gz bin/ kp.ps kp.ps.gz lib/ pikestyle.pdf plan9jun.tgz src/ tmp/ trofftut.ps zakame.png] | 10:21 |
| zakame | gaah ctrl-f completion | 10:21 |
| zakame | phanatic: well I've this idea of implementing that plan9-style :P | 10:22 |
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| zakame | maybe using pdumpfs (but I remember someone had thought of this too long before SoC) | 10:22 |
| phanatic | zakame: i don't know plan9 that well tbh | 10:22 |
| zakame | phanatic: well plan9 already has that kind of functionality, via its fossil+venti filesystem | 10:23 |
| zakame | a plan9 system with that has the capability of doing temporary and archival snapshots; the temp every 15 min and good for 4h; the archival, every morning | 10:24 |
| phanatic | sounds pretty cool | 10:24 |
| zakame | and the backups are easily accessible under different directories, sorted by date, e.g. /n/sourcesdump/2007/02/24/file | 10:25 |
| zakame | pdumpfs seems to already do this under Linux, but I've yet to see how feasible it can be | 10:25 |
| dholbach | doko: do you think we should get the changes for bug 95983 in? | 10:32 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95983 in Ubuntu "Burning CDs requires apps to be run as Sudo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95983 | 10:32 |
| dholbach | doko: do you think we should get the changes for bug 95893 in? | 10:32 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95893 in gcc-h8300-hms "[UVFe Sync Request] gcc-h8300-hms 1:3.4.6-2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95893 | 10:32 |
| dholbach | sorry, wrong bug | 10:32 |
| dholbach | doko: the changes are HUGE, so I'm not entirely sure about it | 10:33 |
| Fujitsu | We've had that version previously, haven't we? | 10:33 |
| Fujitsu | It's reverting from 4.1 due to it breaking a few things... Surely that's a good thing? | 10:34 |
| dholbach | oh right - it has an epoch now | 10:34 |
| dholbach | still I'd like to hear doko about it - it's his area of expertise :) | 10:35 |
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| \sh | moins | 10:52 |
| doko | dholbach: I don't care much about the cross compilers; if 4.x doesn't work, the fallback to 3.4 should be ok | 10:53 |
| dholbach | doko: ok - thanks | 10:53 |
| \sh | guys, where is this script to change debian/control to mention ubuntu maintainer fields... | 10:54 |
| dholbach | \sh: if you find it, please add it to MOTU/FAQ :) | 10:54 |
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| StevenK | \sh: Commonly called "emacs" :-P | 10:55 |
| \sh | dholbach: hehe ;) | 10:55 |
| \sh | StevenK: well, yes, but someone wrote a small script...so this script i need to find :) | 10:55 |
| StevenK | \sh: I'd find it useful too. I keep doing it by hand. | 10:55 |
| dholbach | .xchat2/xchatlogs/FreeNode-#ubuntu-motu.log:Mr 23 16:10:32 geser jdong: use Lutin's script for the maintainer change (http://dunnewind.net/~lutin/code/build_scripts/update-maintainer), so you don't need to remember | 10:55 |
| \sh | StevenK: and it's called "vi" ;) | 10:56 |
| \sh | dholbach: you rock :) | 10:56 |
| dholbach | \sh: grep -i maintainer .xchat2/xchatlogs/*motu* | grep -i script | grep http | 10:56 |
| dholbach | no magic :) | 10:56 |
| StevenK | Ouch, that script is evil. | 10:57 |
| \sh | dholbach: when you have the logfiles at hand | 10:57 |
| === StevenK ponders writing his own. | ||
| \sh | StevenK: I think we have to tweak this script to be correct ;) | 10:58 |
| StevenK | But it's 2 pages of shell! | 10:58 |
| StevenK | I could write one in 5 lines of Python. | 10:58 |
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| \sh | hehe...this one is funny | 10:59 |
| \sh | mail=$(grep -E "^Maintainer" debian/control | sed -r 's/.*<(.*)>/\1/') | 10:59 |
| \sh | case $mail in | 10:59 |
| \sh | "adconrad@0c3.net") email="Adam Conrad <adconrad@ubuntu.com>" ;; | 10:59 |
| \sh | "mpitt@debian.org") email="Martin Pitt <martin.pitt@ubuntu.com>" ;; | 10:59 |
| \sh | esac | 10:59 |
| \sh | wenn adam/pitti is package maintainer, rewrite his address with the ubuntu one lol nice one, really :) | 11:00 |
| Fujitsu | That looks like it was lifted out of pkgbinarymangler. | 11:01 |
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| \sh | s/wenn/when/ | 11:03 |
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| \sh | oh...sabine quit her position at denic...damn...Internet is changing in germany | 11:03 |
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| zakame | hi \sh! | 11:10 |
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| \sh | hey zakame | 11:21 |
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| welshbyte | morning all | 11:35 |
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| surak | Hello MOTUs! | 11:59 |
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| imbrandon | moins all | 12:55 |
| welshbyte | good morning | 12:55 |
| Fujitsu | Hi imbrandon. | 12:56 |
| imbrandon | he Fujitsu , looks like i might be beefing up aurora today unexpectedly | 12:56 |
| === StevenK gars at his machine. | ||
| Fujitsu | What's being done to it, imbrandon? | 12:56 |
| dholbach | ok, unmetdeps bugs are now filed and will be tagged as unmetdeps in a bit | 12:57 |
| Lutin | hi there | 12:57 |
| StevenK | Fujitsu: imbrandon is putting some roast beef in an expansion solt. | 12:57 |
| StevenK | slot, even | 12:57 |
| imbrandon | well in the intrem of me and ajmitch working on it it only had one hdd in it ( well 4 in it, only one mounted ) and it threw it last night | 12:57 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK: Sounds plausible. | 12:57 |
| imbrandon | sooo its stitting off in the DC untill i drive up there this morning | 12:57 |
| imbrandon | but i figure while i'm there i have ram to add | 12:58 |
| imbrandon | sooo | 12:58 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 12:58 |
| === StevenK is trying to convince his amd64 that it can see the SATA drive he installed. | ||
| imbrandon | hehe | 12:59 |
| === StevenK isn't having much luck. | ||
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| Fujitsu | imbrandon: I've got a patch for the LP account importer to check that the username has only sane characters. | 01:01 |
| imbrandon | Fujitsu, rockin, i have it on intrepid and sparky running at 5am every day | 01:02 |
| imbrandon | did you allow "." | 01:02 |
| Fujitsu | -+.a-zA-Z0-9 | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | because useradd normaly dosent but i forced it too since some LP names had it | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | kk | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | you gonna be on for 2 more hours Fujitsu ? | 01:04 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon: Should be, maybe 2.5. | 01:04 |
| Fujitsu | Depending on how tired I am. | 01:04 |
| imbrandon | ok, i'm gonna grab a shower and head to the DC ( about a 30-45 minute drive from here ) | 01:05 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 01:05 |
| imbrandon | i should be ther ein less than 2 hours | 01:05 |
| Fujitsu | See you then :) | 01:05 |
| imbrandon | and i';ll add the update to the script | 01:05 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon: The new one is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12131/ | 01:06 |
| imbrandon | hrm there is no way to software raid a drive and lvm it huh ? | 01:06 |
| imbrandon | s/drive/drive set/ | 01:06 |
| Fujitsu | I don't see why you couldn't... | 01:07 |
| Fujitsu | (I've never used Linux software RAID) | 01:07 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Sure there is | 01:07 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Create the RAID array, pvcreate /dev/md?, and away you go | 01:08 |
| imbrandon | will d-i let you do it? because i have a feeling i'm going to be replaceing that 250 with 2x160 | 01:08 |
| Fujitsu | Just configure the RAID, and use the volumes on it as LVM PVs... Should be fine. | 01:08 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon: It should do. | 01:08 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Yup | 01:08 |
| === StevenK has done two or three installations with it. | ||
| imbrandon | kk | 01:08 |
| imbrandon | /boot and swap on non raid though right ? | 01:08 |
| Fujitsu | There's little point having swap on a mirror. | 01:09 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: I'd have a sda1 as a 100M /boot, sda2 as RAID, and sda3 as 1G swap. Same for sdb | 01:10 |
| StevenK | Hrm. I think this machine has finally detected the SATA drive. | 01:10 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 01:12 |
| imbrandon | ok back in a bit | 01:12 |
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| DarkSun88 | Hello | 01:41 |
| DarkSun88 | Any main sponsor here? | 01:43 |
| crimsun | yes? | 01:43 |
| DarkSun88 | crimsun: Hi :) | 01:44 |
| DarkSun88 | crimsun: Can you so kind to check this sync? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpaint/+bug/95944 | 01:44 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95944 in gpaint "Please sync gpaint 0.3.0pre5-4 (main) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:44 |
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| crimsun | DarkSun88: the debian/changelog entry for -3 is missing in the description. | 01:45 |
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| crimsun | blah | 01:54 |
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| DarkSun88 | crimsun: Tra to check now: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpaint/+bug/95944 | 02:21 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95944 in gpaint "Please sync gpaint 0.3.0pre5-4 (main) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 02:21 |
| DarkSun88 | crimsun: The version of the package is -4 and not -3 | 02:21 |
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| imbrandon | re | 02:38 |
| Fujitsu | Hi imbrandon. | 02:38 |
| ajmitch | hi imbrandon | 02:38 |
| imbrandon | heya ajmitch | 02:39 |
| highvoltage | hey urbrandon | 02:39 |
| ajmitch | fixed up aurora? | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, i'm at the office about to hook a head on aurora | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | nope just walked in | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | i think the 250 bit the dist | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | dust* | 02:43 |
| DarkSun88 | Any main sponsor here? | 02:47 |
| DarkSun88 | Could you so kind to check this bug? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpaint/+bug/95944 | 02:48 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95944 in gpaint "Please sync gpaint 0.3.0pre5-4 (main) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 02:48 |
| DarkSun88 | It's sync | 02:48 |
| \sh | DarkSun88: I think that's more #ubuntu-devel :) | 02:48 |
| DarkSun88 | \sh: Thank you for information. | 02:48 |
| \sh | DarkSun88: and without a freeze exception from <god of release maintainer> there are no syncs in main | 02:48 |
| Fujitsu | \sh: Why not? | 02:50 |
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| cypher1 | i cannot seem to find a package that delivers qtmake | 02:54 |
| cypher1 | am i missing something ? | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | cypher1: qmake, you mean? | 02:55 |
| cypher1 | Hobbsee, yes qmake, sorry | 02:56 |
| cypher1 | let me search again | 02:56 |
| cypher1 | Hobbsee, got it thanks! :) | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:57 |
| \sh | Fujitsu: new upstream versions == freeze exception...and other syncs == archive maintainer, that's what I meant | 02:57 |
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| Fujitsu | \sh: Syncs are under the same restrictions as normal uploads, surely? | 02:58 |
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| imbrandon | woot i'm the man | 03:45 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, Fujitsu : aurora is fixed and will be back up in moments | 03:45 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | heya bddebian | 04:00 |
| bddebian | Hi imbrandon | 04:00 |
| welshbyte | ello bddebian | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Heya welshbyte | 04:01 |
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| Monk-e | https://launchpad.net/beryl/ at the right it says "Doesn't use Malone" under Product Status, is this information outdated? | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | Monk-e: no, it's correct. you're looking in the wrong place, i suspect | 04:17 |
| lupine_85 | not particularly, we use trac ;) | 04:17 |
| Monk-e | But people can report bugs to beryl packages in ubuntu can't they? | 04:17 |
| lupine_85 | well, they can | 04:18 |
| sharms | it makes no sense to file ubuntu bugs under an external tracker | 04:18 |
| sharms | if every project did that things would be a huge mess | 04:18 |
| pochu | Monk-e: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beryl/+bugs | 04:19 |
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| pochu | err, sorry | 04:19 |
| lupine_85 | well, I fail at launchpad ;) | 04:19 |
| pochu | Monk-e: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beryl-core/+bugs | 04:19 |
| lupine_85 | and I like my metadata, etc | 04:19 |
| Monk-e | pochu, I know, that's why I said it. ;) | 04:19 |
| pochu | Monk-e: oh, but this is the ubuntu beryl bugs, and the other is the upstream beryl product (which doesnt use malone) | 04:20 |
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| lupine_85 | ah, the joy of useless backtraces... | 04:20 |
| Monk-e | Ok, it is kind of confusing though. | 04:20 |
| sharms | lupine_85: can't retrace? | 04:21 |
| Monk-e | Could it be possibly cleared up? Saying that if there's a bug in upstream it should be reported to <berylsbugtracker>? | 04:22 |
| Monk-e | Never mind, I think I'm misinterpreting things anyway. :) | 04:24 |
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| bddebian | Hmm, whatever happened to ESR I wonder? :-) | 04:30 |
| bddebian | Heya tritium | 04:32 |
| tritium | hi bddebian :) | 04:33 |
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| tritium | airport, even | 04:33 |
| bddebian | heh | 04:33 |
| tritium | Well, we're boarding. Take it easy, bddebian. | 04:34 |
| bddebian | Later man | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | bye tritium! | 04:34 |
| nixternal | boo | 04:35 |
| bddebian | aaahhh | 04:35 |
| bddebian | Hi nixternal | 04:35 |
| nixternal | howdy bddebian | 04:36 |
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| lupine_85 | So, erm, how does one close a bug on LP? | 04:39 |
| lupine_85 | specifically bug 95565 | 04:39 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95565 in beryl-core "Package "emerald" not available" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95565 | 04:39 |
| lupine_85 | ah, got it | 04:40 |
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| bddebian | heh | 04:41 |
| lupine_85 | most of the SIGSEGVs are a bug to do with x.org, IIRC | 04:42 |
| lupine_85 | (the ones in eventLoop) | 04:42 |
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| lupine_85 | bug 95763 | 04:48 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95763 in beryl-core "Returning to kwin from beryl squares the number of desktops." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95763 | 04:48 |
| lupine_85 | that's a bug in kicker, not beryl :p | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: then fix the kicker to work with beryl :) | 04:50 |
| lupine_85 | haha, nice one | 04:50 |
| lupine_85 | it probably just needs to update it's viewport count when the workspace count changes | 04:50 |
| lupine_85 | oh, and it draws viewport preview for the current viewport on the space for viewport 1 :/ | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: want to see some crack? | 04:54 |
| === bddebian wants some crack | ||
| Hobbsee | http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/snapshot6.png and http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/snapshot7.png | 04:54 |
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| Hobbsee | lupine_85: bddebian ^ | 04:57 |
| Hobbsee | well, more something trippy and weird :P | 04:57 |
| === lupine_85 looks at the crack | ||
| lupine_85 | has someone been playing with beryl-desktop-manager? | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: yeah | 04:58 |
| lupine_85 | thought so :p | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | trippy thing. | 04:58 |
| lupine_85 | go on, report a bug for me to reject, I darrrrrrrre you :D | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | still heaps of bugs yet | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:59 |
| bddebian | aaaahhh my eyes | 04:59 |
| lupine_85 | nah, it's caused because there's no longer anything managing that background (for whatever reason) | 04:59 |
| lupine_85 | restarting kdesktop should fix it | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: that you cant ctrl+c beryl from a terminal - it stops all keyboard input, until you restart X. | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, thoguht it might. | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | think that was with a crackful option on | 04:59 |
| bddebian | And why is this crap such an "important" package? | 04:59 |
| lupine_85 | bddebian: no apparent reason | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | but i could reproduce the solitare effect all the time | 05:00 |
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| Hobbsee | bddebian: because its' bling!!! | 05:00 |
| lupine_85 | except for being part of the fix for bug 1 | 05:00 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 05:00 |
| lupine_85 | :p | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: dont you want wobbly windows?? | 05:00 |
| bddebian | No | 05:00 |
| bddebian | lupine_85: Sorry, I don't exactly see that as the "windows killer" app | 05:00 |
| lupine_85 | Hobbsee: I've played with bdm somewhat, too... did you enable the "desktop manager supports viewports" option in beryl-settings? | 05:00 |
| lupine_85 | bddebian: you might not, but a lot of windows users think differently | 05:01 |
| bddebian | I AM a Windows user | 05:01 |
| welshbyte | i like the looking out of your cube over the sea effect, nice touch | 05:01 |
| lupine_85 | it's a bit sad how much some people depend on eyecandy | 05:01 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: i had, but the solitare happens with both it on and off | 05:01 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: How do you make those screenshots? | 05:01 |
| bddebian | I live and breed Windows for my "job" | 05:01 |
| === Hobbsee likes the cube | ||
| Hobbsee | shawarma: ksnapshot | 05:01 |
| lupine_85 | poor bddebian :D | 05:01 |
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| bddebian | Erer that should have been "live and breath" sheesh | 05:01 |
| lupine_85 | mm, ksnapshot++ | 05:01 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: Is that different from Imagemagick's import? | 05:01 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: When I use that, I don't see any of the fancy effects. | 05:02 |
| lupine_85 | especially with the delayed snapshots | 05:02 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: I don't even have my window border. | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: with beryl enabled | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: indeed! | 05:02 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: And frankly I don't expect to, so I'm just curious why it works for you. | 05:02 |
| bddebian | lupine_85: And I'm not trying to dis your work, I just don't get the appeal I guess :-( | 05:02 |
| lupine_85 | well, bdm needs a helluva lot of work anyway :) | 05:02 |
| lupine_85 | bddebian: no worries :) | 05:02 |
| bddebian | I'd rather seem some nice games for GNU/Linux ;-) | 05:02 |
| bddebian | Goddamn I can't type today | 05:02 |
| lupine_85 | !wesnoth | 05:02 |
| lupine_85 | ? | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: it's just with ksnapshot, with kde, aquamarine, and beryl running | 05:03 |
| ubotu | wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB | 05:03 |
| bddebian | Wesnoth blows compared to Oblivion or NeverWinterNights | 05:03 |
| lupine_85 | NWN runs in linux | 05:03 |
| lupine_85 | : | 05:03 |
| lupine_85 | :p | 05:03 |
| bddebian | NWN does but I don't think theres an NWN2 client is there? | 05:03 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: Are you using xserver-xgl? | 05:03 |
| lupine_85 | not yet, maybe at some point | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: no. intel 965 | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | so, aiglx | 05:04 |
| lupine_85 | but I'd imagine it'll work with the magic of cedega | 05:04 |
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| === lupine_85 <------ teh poor right now | ||
| shawarma | Hobbsee: Does it work with import? | 05:04 |
| lupine_85 | and FFXII comes before NWN2 :D | 05:04 |
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| bddebian | pfft :) | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: *shrug* - it's just like gnome-snapshot, i believe | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | it's not digikam or anything | 05:04 |
| lupine_85 | NWN << baldurs gate | 05:05 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: Weird. And you've done nothing special to make it work? | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: not really. only running the correct programs, in sequence (beryl, then emerald or aquamarine) | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | oh, and telling teh cube to be transparent | 05:05 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: Hm.m.. gnome-screenshot works. | 05:06 |
| bddebian | lupine_85: You are obviously on crack :-) | 05:06 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: But Imagemagick's import doesn't. | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | dunno about that, sorry | 05:06 |
| bddebian | And how about Star Wars: KotR I and II ? :-) | 05:06 |
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| lupine_85 | urgh, star wars | 05:08 |
| shawarma | lupine_85: Maybe you have some interesting input on that.. Why does gnome-screenshot capture the effects of Beryl, but Imagemagick's import doesn't? | 05:08 |
| lupine_85 | erm, no idea :s | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: i'm wondering why the kpager viewports boxes are so big, too | 05:08 |
| bddebian | Call of Duty I and II? :-) | 05:08 |
| bddebian | Halo? | 05:08 |
| lupine_85 | kpager is just b0ken in general with viewports | 05:08 |
| lupine_85 | bddebian: Xbox? PS2? | 05:09 |
| lupine_85 | :p | 05:09 |
| bddebian | pfft | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | lupine_85: ahh. fix it :) | 05:09 |
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| lupine_85 | heh, people complaining about missing beryl-xgl | 05:09 |
| lupine_85 | I must to work; after that, I'll look at bugs 95763 and 95706 in moar detail | 05:12 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95763 in beryl-core "Returning to kwin from beryl squares the number of desktops." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95763 | 05:12 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 95706 in beryl-core "[apport] beryl crashed with SIGFPE in detectRefreshRateOfScreen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95706 | 05:12 |
| lupine_85 | since they shouldn't be too hard to fix :p | 05:13 |
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| sacater | HI GUYS! | 05:17 |
| bddebian | Hello sacater | 05:17 |
| pochu | heya sacater | 05:18 |
| === sacater gives bddebian and pochu cookies | ||
| sacater | :D | 05:18 |
| pochu | :) | 05:18 |
| === sacater starts distributing cookies | ||
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| sacater | white or dark chocolate chip? | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | dark! | 05:19 |
| sacater | Hobbsee: what is this stick i hear you have :| | 05:20 |
| welshbyte | are we allowed to redistribute these cookies? maybe if we supply the recipe with them? | 05:20 |
| === bddebian cowers in the corner | ||
| elkbuntu | ooohhh.. cookies? | 05:20 |
| === sacater gives out more cookies | ||
| bddebian | welshbyte: No, they are non-free damnit! :-) | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | sacater: the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 05:20 |
| sacater | bddebian: they are FREE | 05:20 |
| sacater | Hobbsee: STICK! | 05:20 |
| === Hobbsee wants a cookie. | ||
| === sacater gives out cookies with both dark chocolate and light vanilla, to balance into luxery. | ||
| === welshbyte gets reminded of the cookie monster "virus" in the Hackers movie | ||
| === sacater gives Hobbsee a special cookie with a stick drawn with icing | ||
| elkbuntu | bddebian, well it's not like anyone is going to want to poke through it after you've made alterations to the cookie | 05:21 |
| sacater | welshbyte: do you have on DVD, i only have a crummy version i taped on the TV | 05:22 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 05:22 |
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| bddebian | elkbuntu: hehe | 05:22 |
| welshbyte | sacater: i think my housemate does, but i've seen it so many times it's imprinted on my brain | 05:23 |
| sacater | welshbyte: dont suppose you could copy and mail to me :D | 05:23 |
| welshbyte | no, that'd be illegal :P | 05:23 |
| sacater | welshbyte: :( | 05:23 |
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| sacater | what about if you hide the disc in a very large cookie :D | 05:24 |
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| imbrandon | ... | 05:27 |
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| welshbyte | would you say that bug 96346 is a duplicate of bug 80316 ? | 06:06 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 96346 in emerald-themes "[UNMETDEPS] emerald-themes has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96346 | 06:06 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 80316 in emerald-themes "emerald-themes 0.1.2-0ubuntu1 has an unmet deps on Feisty" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80316 | 06:07 |
| dholbach | welshbyte: looks like it | 06:08 |
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| sacater | welshbyte: yep, duplicate | 06:09 |
| === welshbyte marks it | ||
| dholbach | maybe the next iteration of the massfile script will have something like dup checking :) | 06:10 |
| Lutin | even looks like there's no unmetdep | 06:10 |
| Lutin | at least, installs fine here | 06:10 |
| dholbach | coult be that it was fixed over the WE | 06:10 |
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| geser | dholbach: could the massfile script be improved that it also mails which unmet dep it was and on which arch? | 06:15 |
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| dholbach | geser: I don'T have information over all archs in my apt-cache | 06:16 |
| geser | it's a little hard to discover in some months if this unmet dep is still the case or if was fixed in between | 06:16 |
| geser | the arch you are running it would be enough | 06:16 |
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| imbrandon | dholbach, i can also run the script on other arches ( or you can for that matter ) in chroots in the community buildd's | 06:17 |
| imbrandon | but that might make a bunch of dupes | 06:17 |
| dholbach | yeah | 06:17 |
| dholbach | we need to fix the dup bit yet :) | 06:17 |
| dholbach | bughelper could help with that | 06:17 |
| bersace | siretart: Hi, did you revu babl ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4722 ) and gegl ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4719 ) ? | 06:19 |
| Lutin | someone around using feisty on amd64 ? | 06:20 |
| geser | yes, me | 06:21 |
| Lutin | geser: could you try to install thuban, modify /usr/bin/thuban to make it run with python2.4 and try to run it, to see if it launches ? | 06:22 |
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| geser | Lutin: after changing thuban to use python2.4 it starts | 06:34 |
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| jetsaredim | can someone help me with a problem with feisty and nvidia-glx?? | 06:37 |
| Lutin | geser: ok, cool. thanks :) | 06:37 |
| welshbyte | jetsaredim: this isn't a support channel, you might want to try #ubuntu, #ubuntu+1 or file a bug on launchpad | 06:38 |
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| jetsaredim | k | 06:41 |
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| jdong | just a quick question; what happened to beryl-xgl in Ubuntu packaging of beryl? | 07:04 |
| jdong | XGL people actually do need it :( | 07:04 |
| jdong | standard beryl glitches badly on xgl. | 07:04 |
| ivoks | on ati? | 07:04 |
| jdong | well, /usr/bin/beryl-xgl is not in Ubuntu beryl packaging... | 07:05 |
| jdong | probably removed for some reason? | 07:05 |
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| imbrandon | yes it was removed because ity contained mesa crap | 07:06 |
| jdong | mmm. | 07:07 |
| imbrandon | untill they can build it without the inline mesa ( post feisty ) it wont be in the archive | 07:07 |
| jdong | I see. | 07:07 |
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| jdong | official? | 07:09 |
| welshbyte | could be | 07:09 |
| ivoks | no | 07:10 |
| ivoks | * Renamed package libmysqlclient15 to libmysqlclient15off due to | 07:10 |
| ivoks | binary incompatible changes. | 07:10 |
| ivoks | See /usr/share/doc/libmysqlclient15off/README.Debian | 07:10 |
| welshbyte | ivoks: cheers :) | 07:11 |
| ivoks | basicly, it is official :D | 07:11 |
| sacater | anyone seen sabdfl? | 07:11 |
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| imbrandon | sacater, sure but he is not in here atm | 07:12 |
| imbrandon | looks like -devel and launchpad atm | 07:12 |
| sacater | ok | 07:12 |
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| imbrandon | geser, updated the url on ubuntuwire with a tad bit more info, i'll prettyfy it today with the exact instructions | 07:24 |
| imbrandon | just fyi | 07:24 |
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| geser | thanks | 07:25 |
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| maxamillion | i would like to inquire about what all obligations would come with being a MOTU in terms of amount of time spent, number of meetings to attend, number of packages to take responsibility for, etc. .... is there a link i should be referencing or am i in the right place? | 08:35 |
| pochu | maxamillion: you can start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU#head-ec7a97d5af67e96747b4f36993232ff434f4486c | 08:38 |
| welshbyte | maxamillion: i'm not a motu myself but i like to help out whenever i have time, there's plenty to do and you can just jump right in really | 08:38 |
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| pochu | hey sacater! | 08:40 |
| maxamillion | welshbyte: how do you contribue? | 08:40 |
| pochu | neither am I :) | 08:40 |
| sacater | welshbyte: im not MOTU either (I am under slow training though) | 08:40 |
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| sacater | MOTU would be nice | 08:40 |
| sacater | but i dont have the time atm | 08:40 |
| sacater | SATS | 08:40 |
| DktrKranz | maxamillion, you can pick a task from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO | 08:41 |
| sacater | school work | 08:41 |
| sacater | that shiz | 08:41 |
| sacater | revision | 08:41 |
| maxamillion | DktrKranz: thanks, i just noticed that link | 08:41 |
| welshbyte | maxamillion: have a look at the links people have pasted, there's loads of information on the wiki :) | 08:42 |
| maxamillion | i noticed there isn't a Xubuntu MOTU team ... why is that? | 08:42 |
| DktrKranz | there are some easy task which can introduce you | 08:42 |
| maxamillion | welshbyte: yeah, i'm just starting to read over it now :) | 08:42 |
| DktrKranz | take a look at them | 08:42 |
| maxamillion | DktrKranz: will do, thank you | 08:42 |
| DktrKranz | check from resolved issues | 08:42 |
| DktrKranz | and try yourself! | 08:42 |
| welshbyte | maxamillion: MOTU takes care of all the packages in universe/multiverse... which includes packages available in kubuntu and xubuntu too | 08:43 |
| DktrKranz | here you will find some great guys who will help you | 08:43 |
| maxamillion | welshbyte: right, but on the wiki page there is a listing of a Kubuntu MOTU team but not one for Xubuntu ... there is a XFCE one which I would assume is what Jani handles | 08:44 |
| maxamillion | welshbyte: reason i ask is because i am a xubuntu contributor | 08:44 |
| welshbyte | maxamillion: well there's an XFCE group listed, I guess that's the relevant one | 08:45 |
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| welshbyte | s/group/team | 08:46 |
| maxamillion | welshbyte: yeah | 08:46 |
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| superm1 | it appears that seahorse automatically pulls up a keyring dialog for some apps, but not debuild -S. is there some magic necessary for it? | 08:47 |
| DktrKranz | superm1, are you sure? | 08:47 |
| maxamillion | well thanks to all, i have some reading to get done around the wiki and i'm sure i will be back | 08:48 |
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| DktrKranz | i use it, no seahorse but i'm able to sign packages | 08:48 |
| superm1 | 1024-bit DSA key, ID 80DF6D58, created 2006-10-13 | 08:48 |
| superm1 | gpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use | 08:48 |
| superm1 | debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... | 08:48 |
| superm1 | debuild: fatal error at line 1155: | 08:48 |
| superm1 | running debsign failed | 08:48 |
| superm1 | but with falcon it works fine | 08:48 |
| DktrKranz | anyway, i looked at BTS | 08:48 |
| DktrKranz | and there's a workaround | 08:48 |
| DktrKranz | wait just a second... | 08:48 |
| superm1 | sigining works fine without seahorse | 08:48 |
| superm1 | eg if kill the agent | 08:48 |
| geser | afaik that's a known problem | 08:49 |
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| superm1 | geser, is there a workaround to disable it for debuild then, and still allow it in other apps? | 08:49 |
| DktrKranz | superm1, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=322208 | 08:50 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 322208 in seahorse "seahorse-agent: fails to be accessed from debuild" [Important,Open] | 08:50 |
| superm1 | DktrKranz, thanks | 08:50 |
| DktrKranz | it is told to set an evironment variable | 08:50 |
| DktrKranz | but it can lead to some troubles... | 08:51 |
| DktrKranz | so, be careful | 08:51 |
| geser | superm1: I don't know, I don't use seahorse but it works with gnupg-agent | 08:51 |
| DktrKranz | in such bug developers suggest to fix seahorse | 08:51 |
| DktrKranz | i didn't check it in feisty | 08:52 |
| superm1 | DktrKranz, it appears that DEBUILD_PRESERVE_ENVVARS does work to fix it | 08:54 |
| superm1 | i just tried | 08:54 |
| DktrKranz | yep, i tried some times ago | 08:54 |
| DktrKranz | but i'm worried about potential breakages | 08:54 |
| DktrKranz | so i disabled it and i'm using command line :) | 08:55 |
| superm1 | well is there much breakage that can be expected from having a DISPLAY variable set though in a build env | 08:55 |
| DktrKranz | debsign is a friend of mine :) | 08:55 |
| DktrKranz | anyway, let's see if we can do something with seahorse | 08:56 |
| DktrKranz | i think the issue can be solved only there | 08:56 |
| geser | I usually use -uc -us when building a source package and only sign it before uploading | 08:56 |
| DktrKranz | mh | 08:58 |
| DktrKranz | nice | 08:58 |
| DktrKranz | so, you will be using debsign later on | 08:58 |
| DktrKranz | anyway is's somewhat curious | 08:59 |
| DktrKranz | debsign works perfectly | 08:59 |
| DktrKranz | superm1, see also bug #78165 | 09:01 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 78165 in devscripts "debuild fails to use seahorse-agent" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78165 | 09:01 |
| geser | yes, I use debsign later. It has the advantage that I don't upload broken packages on mistake. | 09:01 |
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| DktrKranz | well, didn't think about it :) | 09:02 |
| DktrKranz | anyway, it's not a problem for me ;) | 09:02 |
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| superm1 | geser, i think i like your method of signing before upload only too | 09:04 |
| superm1 | geser, it is indeed cleaner then doing it this way with preserving DISPLAY | 09:04 |
| superm1 | DktrKranz, thanks for the bug | 09:04 |
| DktrKranz | you're welcome | 09:04 |
| superm1 | i'll subscribe to it and watch for more | 09:04 |
| DktrKranz | hope it'll be fixed soon | 09:05 |
| DktrKranz | i was working at bug #93741 | 09:09 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 93741 in mtop "[can-not-install] maintainer script failure" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93741 | 09:09 |
| DktrKranz | there are similar bugs | 09:09 |
| DktrKranz | i found a patch along the way | 09:09 |
| DktrKranz | which could solve them | 09:09 |
| DktrKranz | could you please double-check it? | 09:09 |
| DktrKranz | superm1, oh it was *your* patch :) | 09:11 |
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| superm1 | DktrKranz, :) | 09:17 |
| DktrKranz | nice work! | 09:17 |
| DktrKranz | i modified it just a little bit | 09:17 |
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| superm1 | glad it worked for you | 09:18 |
| DktrKranz | but it worked perfectly | 09:18 |
| DktrKranz | i added a function in order to work | 09:18 |
| DktrKranz | but your idea is good | 09:18 |
| superm1 | from what i remember, firefox poking up a notification about needing to be restarted turned on the lightbulb in my mind | 09:19 |
| DktrKranz | that's it | 09:19 |
| DktrKranz | it took me a little bit to complete | 09:20 |
| DktrKranz | i didn't figure to use a function | 09:21 |
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| Adri2000 | superm1: how can you use you @ubuntu address as preferred address in LP? I thought that the preferred address was used to redirect the emails from the @ubuntu one | 09:30 |
| superm1 | which you would think makes an infinite loop pointing to my gmail one, but it works somehow :) | 09:30 |
| DktrKranz | Adri2000, i thought so, but it worked :) | 09:30 |
| superm1 | probably when you "become" an ubuntu member, they take your primary at the time | 09:31 |
| superm1 | but dont update after that | 09:31 |
| lionel | I read once it was updated by a cron weekly or something like that | 09:31 |
| lionel | so the loop can take some time to occur... | 09:32 |
| Adri2000 | :s | 09:32 |
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| superm1 | lionel, i've had mine like that since two weeks after i became an ubuntu member | 09:33 |
| pochu | hasn't happened here using it for a month | 09:33 |
| superm1 | lionel, so maybe i'm just lucky :) | 09:33 |
| superm1 | lionel, that was last year in september | 09:33 |
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| lionel | oh, good news so :) | 09:33 |
| DktrKranz | yes, me too, it worked quite soon | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | ugh wtf | 09:35 |
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| superm1 | imbrandon, what happened? | 09:38 |
| imbrandon | just my damn wireless crap, no biggie | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | fixing now | 09:39 |
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| so1 | hi | 09:53 |
| so1 | does someone know if firefox 2.0.0.2 will be shipped with feisty? | 09:54 |
| pochu | so1: we already have 2.0.0.3 in feisty | 09:54 |
| pochu | hmm, it's being built | 09:54 |
| so1 | weird, I only see 2.0.0.2 | 09:55 |
| pochu | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.2 (Ubuntu-feisty) | 09:55 |
| pochu | so1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox <--- 2.0.0.3 already published | 09:56 |
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| so1 | ok | 10:09 |
| so1 | someone know if kile is fixed? | 10:09 |
| so1 | failed to build on all platforms on feisty ... | 10:09 |
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| sacater | :D | 10:10 |
| bmm | I'm new to packaging and have a problem: the install Makefile does everything right, and copies into $(DESTDIR)/usr/bin a binary. If I put an exit 1 there, it will be all there. However, later on in the package build, these files are removed again. What could be going wrong here? | 10:18 |
| bmm | (The only files remeaning are the manuals, the /usr/bin and /usr/lib are removed from the $(DESTDIR) | 10:19 |
| bmm | (my debian/dirs file has been removed, because I read in the manual it isn't needed if the Makefile already creates these directories) | 10:20 |
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| bmm | what could be removing files after the upstream install script has put them in the DESTDIR? | 10:32 |
| Hobbsee | which files? | 10:33 |
| bmm | Hobbsee: files placed in the debian/iolanguage/usr/bin/ directory | 10:33 |
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| bmm | It's not dh_clean, I checked that already. | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | not sure - i think we' d have to see the source | 10:34 |
| bmm | Well, the first part of the "broken" package is now in http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4585 | 10:34 |
| bmm | Do you want the full source, or should I paste-bin a few parts of the files? | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | um, i'm in a meeting, and really tired | 10:36 |
| Hobbsee | not sure i'm able to help you, sorry :( | 10:36 |
| bmm | NP, I understand | 10:36 |
| bmm | Good luck | 10:36 |
| bmm | Ah, dh_clean removes them | 10:41 |
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| bmm | found the problem, thought it wasn't dh_clean but it turned out to be in a later state of the rules.... | 10:41 |
| bmm | Still not sure how to resolve it, but I'm still working on it ;-) | 10:41 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 10:42 |
| bmm | hehe, evening here, but good morning to you | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch | 10:42 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you're up early (or late) | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: early, yes | 10:43 |
| ajmitch | scary | 10:43 |
| ajmitch | that's unnatural | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | i know | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | particularly as i went to work last night | 10:44 |
| ajmitch | hm | 10:44 |
| ajmitch | why are you up so early then? | 10:44 |
| ajmitch | you could spend an extra few minutes sleeping rather than on irc | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: adhoc meeting for UDS | 10:45 |
| ajmitch | oh interesting | 10:45 |
| ajmitch | kubuntu stuff? | 10:45 |
| ajmitch | win 27 | 10:45 |
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| Hobbsee | yeah | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | and travel, etc | 10:45 |
| ajmitch | fun | 10:45 |
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| geser | no agenda yet for the next motu meeting? | 10:49 |
| ajmitch | no, I guess someone should write one | 10:49 |
| ajmitch | ugh, it's tonight, isn't it | 10:50 |
| geser | Mar 27rd, 8:00 UTC | 10:50 |
| ajmitch | yes, so 8pm for me | 10:51 |
| ajmitch | not too late, I'm glad | 10:51 |
| Adri2000 | 10am for me, will be at school :-( | 10:53 |
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| === Adri2000 too | ||
| pochu | you will love the school once you have to work :p | 10:55 |
| sacater | pochu: but thats the beauty of not being at school, you dont have to LEARN anything | 10:55 |
| pochu | sacater: you have, believe me | 10:56 |
| sacater | id love ubuntu as a job | 10:56 |
| TheMuso | Hey MOTUs. | 10:56 |
| === TheMuso will attend, 6PM for me. | ||
| pochu | hi TheMuso! | 10:59 |
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| pochu | hi slomo | 11:00 |
| pochu | slomo: 1.2.9 up and running :) | 11:00 |
| pochu | and I've already found a bug :-) | 11:00 |
| bmm | Ok, probably solved my whole "files dissapearing" problem. Was dh_clean in the end. | 11:00 |
| slomo | pochu: oh? | 11:01 |
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| welshbyte | hm, i think kile needs to be built with an older gcc, no idea how to do that | 11:28 |
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| shawarma | welshbyte: "Older" as in gcc 3.4? | 11:30 |
| welshbyte | yes | 11:30 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: gcc=gcc-3.x or whatever | 11:30 |
| bddebian | err CC= | 11:30 |
| shawarma | welshbyte: Just set CC to gcc-3.4 in the makefile and add gcc-3.4 as a build-dep. | 11:30 |
| bddebian | Or fix it to make it work with 4.1 ;-P | 11:31 |
| shawarma | Er.. kile is a KDE-thing? | 11:31 |
| shawarma | welshbyte: Set CXX=g++-3.4 too | 11:31 |
| welshbyte | yeah, it's a latex editor thingy that's currently ftbfs for everything | 11:31 |
| shawarma | Ok. Then the g++ is probably sufficient. | 11:32 |
| welshbyte | when you say "the makefile" do you mean debian/rules (which is using cdbs) or patch one of Makefile.{am,in} ? :/ | 11:35 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | hey sistpoty | 11:36 |
| sistpoty | hi ajmitch | 11:36 |
| sistpoty | @everyone: reminder: motu-meeting tomorrow | 11:37 |
| ajmitch | s/tomorrow/tonight/ for me | 11:37 |
| ajmitch | got anything interesting for the agenda? | 11:37 |
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| sistpoty | till now the agenda is empty :/ | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | yeah, that's why I'm hoping you have something ;) | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | otherwise it'll be anice short meeting & I can sleep early | 11:38 |
| sistpoty | hm... I'd like to discuss the MC charter, but I was too lazy to update it with changes from last MC meeting until now :( | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | update it now | 11:39 |
| === sistpoty will update it in a few minutes | ||
| ajmitch | thanks :) | 11:39 |
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| enyc | bah! sru update with 3 'wrorksforme' -- got a procedure to complete...... | 11:44 |
| enyc | (78005) | 11:44 |
| ajmitch | bug 78005 | 11:44 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 78005 in qpsmtpd "[SRU] request: dapper:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78005 | 11:44 |
| enyc | this is a problem as there are not many users of the package ;-) | 11:45 |
| sistpoty | enyc: 3 works for me is (with the new sru policy) even one more than needed ;) | 11:45 |
| enyc | i coul d spend rathor a lot of time asking people to test for me... etc... similar SRU in same state for edgy already.. | 11:45 |
| enyc | sistpoty: oh? whats the new policy? | 11:46 |
| enyc | sistpoty: I think that an exact set value may not work for all cases | 11:46 |
| enyc | sistpoty: like this one... simple fix to little used but annoying-bug problem... | 11:46 |
| enyc | sistpoty: im sure with some more complex fixes some real testing-exposure is really rather important... | 11:47 |
| sistpoty | enyc: it's basically any motu can just upload to -proposed, and until a package can go to -updates it needs 2 works for me and needs to have been longer than 7 days in -proposed | 11:47 |
| sistpoty | (this also means no more motu-sru team, and less work for me :) | 11:47 |
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| enyc | sistpoty: whats the dangers of this change? | 11:48 |
| sistpoty | enyc: the danger (as always) is that we could get broken updates... however the old policy resulted in almost all updates being stuck in -proposed, so I guess some risk for a broken update is better than no update at all | 11:49 |
| enyc | sistpoty: i see | 11:50 |
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| lupine_85 | woot, and stuff | 11:50 |
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| Monk-e | sistpoty, are you still accepting members for the Games team? | 11:56 |
| sistpoty | Monk-e: did you write that mail to the motu-ml? | 11:56 |
| Monk-e | sistpoty, yes. | 11:56 |
| sistpoty | Monk-e: sorry that I didn't respond yet :( | 11:56 |
| Monk-e | It's ok. :) | 11:57 |
| sistpoty | Monk-e: currently the motu games team is pretty much dead, and all members that were active are doing their packaging in the debian-games team now | 11:57 |
| Monk-e | I see.. how come? | 11:57 |
| sistpoty | well, /me was busy with other things, and thus had no more time for motu-games | 11:58 |
| enyc | sistpoty: anyway 78005 77485 con now be poked under the new policy ?? | 11:58 |
| sistpoty | enyc: all motu sru-bugs fall under the new policy now ;) | 11:58 |
| Monk-e | Ah ok. Too bad... | 11:58 |
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| enyc | sistpoty: right... so do these need poking.. or will they all now be seen to ? | 11:58 |
| bmm | Should the changelog contain "feisty; ugency=low" or "unstable; urgency=low" when creating a new package for revu? | 11:59 |
| sistpoty | Monk-e: so basically, I won't say no to accepting you into motu-games, but it's just that it's not an active team atm :( | 11:59 |
| sistpoty | Monk-e: maybe you'd like to reactivate it though? | 11:59 |
| sistpoty | bmm: feisty please | 11:59 |
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| === sistpoty looks and types faster :P | ||
| Monk-e | sistpoty, sure. But not for a while as I'm going to be quite busy myself the next few months. | 12:00 |
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| === enyc types aoeuidhtns-stple on asdfghjkl letters often these days! seem to be fast ;-) | ||
| sistpoty | enyc: please subscribe ubuntu-universe sponsors or ping some motus here to upload these ;) | 12:01 |
| bmm | sistpoty: thanks! | 12:01 |
| enyc | sistpoty: im trying to work out who is subscribed at the moment! | 12:03 |
| Monk-e | sistpoty, but thanks. Can I then contact you about it when I have more free time? | 12:03 |
| sistpoty | Monk-e: sure, either me or siretart | 12:03 |
| Monk-e | Alright, thanks! | 12:03 |
| sistpoty | you're welcome | 12:03 |
| sistpoty | enyc: left side of the bug page, 3rd portlet from the top... | 12:04 |
| enyc | sistpoty: what does it say? | 12:09 |
| sistpoty | enyc: bug #77485 is: subsribers are Kai, motu-sru, ScottK, you. And indirectly (I guess via bug contact) ubuntu bugs is subscribed | 12:10 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 77485 in qpsmtpd "[SRU] request: edgy:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77485 | 12:10 |
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