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[07:45] (fabbione/#ubuntu-mythtv) test
[02:09] <fabbione> anybody alive?
[06:37] <cbx33> wow!
[06:38] <cbx33> so here we are
[06:38] <cbx33> how good is mythtv now on Ubuntu?
[06:55] <superm1> imbrandon, u around?
[06:55] <spiderworm> anyone here successfully compiling .20 fixes branch on edgy?
[06:56] <imbrandon> superm1, yup
[06:56] <imbrandon> cbx33, rockin smooth ;)
[06:56] <superm1> could you get me access into that server today?
[06:56] <imbrandon> superm1, sure, lemme set it up now
[06:57] <superm1> spiderworm, yes i've built 0.20 debs
[06:57] <superm1> spiderworm, lots of times
[06:57] <spiderworm> superm1: oh cool!
[06:57] <superm1> spiderworm, 0.20 is in multiverse already though
[06:57] <spiderworm> im wondering if you could take a look at this: http://pastebin.ca/410665
[06:57] <superm1> with the fixes branch snapshot from a few months ago
[06:58] <spiderworm> yikes.... netsplit?
[06:58] <superm1> spiderworm, your not building a deb, just a svn checkout it appears
[06:58] <imbrandon> spiderworm, dident look like it, only you
[06:58] <superm1> right?
[06:59] <spiderworm> i prefer building from source with myth (worked great on dapper!) because ive gotten burned using packages in the past
[06:59] <spiderworm> superm1: correct
[07:00] <spiderworm> i upgraded to edgy over the weekend and have had nothing but trouble now with myth :(
[07:00] <superm1> spiderworm, i'm imagining your missing a ffmpeg build depen here
[07:00] <superm1> spiderworm, you might consider trying the debs in multiverse though.  things have changed a bunch since dapper in terms of packaging for them
[07:00] <spiderworm> superm1: i was thinking so but nowhere is it warning me about "no such file or directory"
[07:00] <imbrandon> yea we actualy started working on them, you might even try feisty
[07:01] <imbrandon> beta
[07:01] <spiderworm> superm1: im considering it for sure and may have to fall back on that
[07:01] <spiderworm> hehe well, is feisty using the .21 branch?
[07:01] <superm1> spiderworm, most people are the *other* way around.  try the *easy* debs, and if that doesnt work - go source, but to each his own
[07:02] <superm1> feisty is 0.20 fixes as well (not 0.21)
[07:02] <spiderworm> yes i guess thats true :)
[07:02] <superm1> spiderworm, but if your going to do it the hard way, do a "sudo apt-get bulid-dep mythtv"
[07:02] <superm1> and you will get all build deps normally used for the packages
[07:03] <spiderworm> superm1: actually i dont, i get an error
[07:03] <spiderworm> one sec and i'll get that error for you
[07:04] <spiderworm> E: Build-dependencies for mythtv could not be satisfied. <--- only error :(
[07:04] <spiderworm> so very helpful, wouldn't you say?
[07:05] <spiderworm> do you know of a way to get more verbose output for that?
[07:05] <imbrandon> do you have multiverse enabled ?
[07:07] <spiderworm> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse , deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse , and deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse all enabled
[07:08] <spiderworm> when i upgraded to edgy over the weekend, after the upgrade i was having troubles so i cleared out sources.list and rebuilt it
[07:08] <spiderworm> then apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, of course
[07:08] <superm1> your missing universe then on "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse"
[07:08] <spiderworm> but i wonder if there's some packages on there from old repos that are causing me trouble
[07:08] <spiderworm> i have it on a seperate line
[07:09] <superm1> could you post your sources.list in a pastebin as well?
[07:09] <spiderworm> actually: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[07:10] <spiderworm> its copied & pasted from the edgy section
[07:11] <superm1> your missing universe and multiverse on edgy-updates and multiverse on edgy-security then
[07:11] <superm1> from what i gather
[07:11] <spiderworm> ok, let me try that...
[07:12] <superm1> these 4 are adequate for most purposes: (i'm not sure why a lot people seperate them and make it hard to read)
[07:12] <spiderworm> i suppose you're right... my gosh!
[07:12] <superm1> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <superm1> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <superm1> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <superm1> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <superm1> haha
[07:12] <superm1> at least its something easy
[07:15] <superm1> imbrandon, will you need a public key from me?
[07:15] <superm1> er you can get it off launchpad i guess
[07:18] <spiderworm> grrr after apt-get update and apt-get uprade, still E: Build-dependencies for mythtv could not be satisfied
[07:18] <spiderworm> one sec, will paste my sources.list
[07:18] <spiderworm> http://pastebin.ca/410761
[07:19] <superm1> woah whats that bottom one there....
[07:19] <superm1> http://knm.org/mythdebs/
[07:19] <spiderworm> superm1: oh i donno, something i picked up somewhere....
[07:19] <spiderworm> should i lose it maybe?
[07:20] <superm1> yes
[07:21] <spiderworm> even still same problem
[07:21] <superm1> take out the deb and deb-src line for that repo
[07:22] <spiderworm> theyre gone
[07:22] <spiderworm> already did it
[07:22] <superm1> apt-cache policy mythtv
[07:22] <superm1> whats that get you?
[07:22] <imbrandon> superm1, do you have your public key on lp ?
[07:22] <superm1> yes both
[07:23] <superm1> i have two machines that i use
[07:23] <superm1> and both keys are there
[07:23] <superm1> https://launchpad.net/~superm1/+sshkeys
[07:23] <imbrandon> ok
[07:23] <spiderworm> it gets me: http://pastebin.ca/410768
[07:23] <superm1> okay then thats right.
[07:24] <superm1> it sounds like you have some build dependency installed right now that conflicts with mythtv build deps then
[07:24] <superm1> i'm not sure where it would have came from (or your old dapper repos that were in use previously)
[07:24] <spiderworm> how would i go about cleaning this mess up?
[07:24] <superm1> but the easiest way i know to check on it is to go into synaptic, and set the filter that shows "local" packages
[07:25] <superm1> meaning that version currently installed isnt on the repositories on /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:25] <spiderworm> local meaning not found in repos
[07:25] <superm1> rihgt
[07:25] <spiderworm> gotcha
[07:25] <superm1> and you can hit ctrl-e on any of those
[07:25] <superm1> to switch to another version
[07:25] <superm1> there probably is a way with command line apt too, but i dont know it
[07:27] <spiderworm> im i dont see Local as an option anywhere in synaptic filters
[07:27] <spiderworm> help?
[07:27] <superm1> let me see if i can get to an edgy synaptic
[07:27] <superm1> its changed in feisty
[07:27] <superm1> and thats what i have on my laptop
[07:28] <spiderworm> thanks by the way for the help
[07:28] <superm1> Status button
[07:29] <spiderworm> ive been struggling through this for days and ai cant stop!
[07:29] <superm1> and then Installed (local or obsolete)
[07:29] <superm1> not a problem, glad to help :)
[07:29] <spiderworm> i have no status button :(
[07:30] <spiderworm> syanptic v .57.8
[07:30] <spiderworm> oh wait
[07:30] <spiderworm> i found it :)
[07:31] <spiderworm> was looking in filters for it
[07:31] <superm1> yea that is where it is feisty i think
[07:32] <superm1> thats probably why i thought it was still there in edgy
[07:38] <cbx33> all teh directory issues ironed out in feisty then?
[07:38] <superm1> cbx33, which ones?
[07:38] <cbx33> i think when i used edgy, nothing worked propoerly in the plugins
[07:38] <cbx33> using knoppmyth at the mo
[07:39] <cbx33> but wanting to really use bubuntu
[07:39] <superm1> cbx33, all the plugins should be properly setup now, making directories in /var/lib/
[07:39] <cbx33> nice
[07:39] <superm1> afaik :)
[07:45] <cbx33> i saw the instructions for myth on feisty
[07:46] <cbx33> looked a little complicated
[07:46] <superm1> complicated?  its supposed to be getting easier :)
[07:46] <superm1> which page were you looking at
[07:46] <cbx33> hehe well that's what I thought
[07:46] <cbx33> lemme find it
[07:46] <cbx33> oh btw...can i play copy protected dvds on mythtv
[07:46] <superm1> majoridiot has taken over the pages, so i'll let him know your input
[07:46] <superm1> you can if you have libdvdcss2 installed
[07:47] <cbx33> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend
[07:47] <cbx33> i just installed that on my knoppmyth box and it wouldn't let me play kung fu hustle
[07:47] <cbx33> but "the one" played fnioe
[07:47] <spiderworm> superm1: i removed 115 local packages :)
[07:47] <spiderworm> superm1: build-dep now works
[07:47] <superm1> wow spiderworm
[07:48] <superm1> spiderworm, very good
[07:48] <superm1> cbx33, are you saying this page looks complicated because all of the steps are in such a linear fashion?
[07:48] <superm1> all on the same page and all
[07:49] <cbx33> probably
[07:49] <cbx33> :p
[07:49] <cbx33> I'll try it out later ;)
[07:50] <superm1> cbx33, well i mentioned that to majoridiot too
[07:50] <superm1> that the page is a whole lot of information at one time
[07:50] <superm1> maybe at least moving the what next section to another page
[07:50] <superm1> or the basic install steps since not everyone will follow those
[08:06] <spiderworm> doh!
[08:06] <spiderworm> still getting the same error during compile
[08:07] <superm1> lol
[08:07] <superm1> was there other build deps installed though?
[08:08] <spiderworm> yes, several
[08:08] <superm1> well you probably solved several later problems then during compilation
[08:10] <superm1> so u ready to bit the bullet and try the debs yet ;)?
[08:10] <spiderworm> perhaps
[08:10] <spiderworm> ive heard horror stories of passwords being changed, themes disappearing and mythfrontend not starting
[08:10] <superm1> well i can tell you what happens with the password problem
[08:11] <superm1> that is directly related to not reading documentation
[08:11] <superm1> and there is a big wrapper script in place for feisty to end it
[08:11] <spiderworm> (yay!)
[08:11] <superm1> themes dissappearing is something i havent heard however
[08:11] <spiderworm> mythfrontend wont start if it cant find the theme
[08:11] <superm1> so with regard to the passwords - any user that you start mythtv with
[08:12] <superm1> needs to be in the mythtv group
[08:12] <superm1> *before* you try to launch mythfrontend
[08:12] <superm1> or mythtv-setup for the first time
[08:12] <superm1> eg you need to add yourself to the group, log out, log back in
[08:12] <superm1> and then start any myth apps
[08:13] <superm1> is your missing a theme, there is a command line option to start with a different theme. i dont know the option off hand, but our packages dont remove any themes, so thats gotta be related to migrating a box and not installing a theme you had there
[08:14] <spiderworm> people going from source to packages..... the packages dont contain all the themes that are in svn, do they?
[08:16] <superm1> you need to install mythtv-themes
[08:16] <superm1> thats all
[08:16] <fabbione> hey guys
[08:16] <superm1> and you should then have everything that was in 0.20-fixes but not necessarily svn
[08:16] <fabbione> so who is familiar with libmythtv code? (live tv stuff specifically)
[08:16] <superm1> hey fabbione .
[08:16] <superm1> familiar with the code itself ... i doubt anyone in the room
[08:16] <superm1> i know not i
[08:17] <fabbione> problem is that even if i configure 2 cards, livetv can't switch between them
[08:17] <fabbione> it tells me that there is no other recorder?!?
[08:17] <spiderworm> i just installed the packages
[08:17] <superm1> oh did that workaround work for you yesterday that i mentioned?
[08:17] <fabbione> but there are 2
[08:17] <spiderworm> mythfrontend --override-setting theme=<anyone have a valid theme name?>
[08:17] <fabbione> superm1: i can see the channels in the program guide, but i can't switch
[08:18] <spiderworm> G.A.N.T doesnt seem to work...
[08:18] <spiderworm> blue doesnt work...
[08:18] <spiderworm> wtf
[08:20] <spiderworm> lol
[08:20] <spiderworm> could not find theme default
[08:23] <superm1> brb
[08:23] <superm1> ill help in  a sec
[08:31] <fabbione> BZZZZZZZZZT
[08:31] <fabbione> 2007-03-26 20:31:22.370 DVBChan(1) Error: Opening DVB frontend device failed.
[08:31] <fabbione>                         eno: Device or resource busy (16)
[08:44] <superm1> spiderworm, you installed source before
[08:44] <superm1> into /usr/local?
[08:46] <spiderworm> superm1: yeah i figured out hte problem :) you nailed it on the head
[08:46] <spiderworm> deleted /usr/local/lib/*myth* and mythfrontend fired up
[08:46] <superm1> sorry i was talking with a prof.
[08:47] <spiderworm> NOW im BACK to the orginal problem that started this whole mess in the first place!
[08:47] <superm1> which is?
[08:47] <spiderworm> the original problem was (is) that mythbackend runs, throws no errors in shell or in log, but frontend cannot connect to it AND it backend does not show up in netstat!
[08:47] <spiderworm> w00t
[08:47] <superm1> fabbione, why is thta happening?
[08:47] <fabbione> AHHH
[08:48] <fabbione> superm1: fixed it...
[08:48] <fabbione> i will explain in 2 minutes..
[08:49] <superm1> spiderworm, /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[08:49] <spiderworm> sudo netstat -tuna | grep 6543 shows nothing, sudo netstat -tunap | grep myth shows nothing
[08:49] <superm1> check and see what it is saying
[08:49] <spiderworm> superm1: log is clean
[08:49] <superm1> clean as in empty?
[08:49] <spiderworm> no errors no problems
[08:49] <superm1> or clean as in nothing
[08:49] <spiderworm> clean as in i'll pastebin it for ya
[08:50] <superm1> k
[08:50] <superm1> hey jetsaredim
[08:51] <jetsaredim> dude
[08:51] <jetsaredim> I started messing with the glade shit
[08:51] <superm1> jetsaredim, and good or bad news proceeds...
[08:51] <jetsaredim> but I think there was something incompatible between the edgy glade which I had on my system and the feisty glade from the livecd
[08:52] <superm1> whats happening?
[08:52] <jetsaredim> some sort of unrecogized glade type
[08:52] <jetsaredim> like they are using some glade type that wasn
[08:52] <jetsaredim> t in the version i had
[08:53] <fabbione> superm1: basically it's a hvr3000 driver limitation. afaik it's on windows, but basically with multiple frontends, when you get an exclusive access to a device (Mythtv default) you can't access the other frontend. So the backend can't initialize the second configured frontend
[08:53] <jetsaredim> so i'm coaxing my dev box through a feisty upgrade (which is not going totally well)
[08:54] <fabbione> the solution is to set dvb_on_demand in the mythtv config for now
[08:54] <fabbione> that will allow you to init both hvr3000 frontends from the backend
[08:54] <fabbione> and you can switch in livetv
[08:54] <fabbione> i assume this limitation has other consequences like you can't watch dvb-t and record dvb-s at the same time
[08:54] <fabbione> but i will solve that later on
[08:55] <spiderworm> superm1: http://pastebin.ca/410875
[08:55] <spiderworm> (prepare to be mystified)
[08:56] <superm1> fabbione, that probably touches upon another issue that i heard of recording two sources on the same mux in the US
[08:56] <superm1> fabbione, no code has been proposed as of yet
[08:56] <superm1> but thats good you solved it
[08:56] <fabbione> superm1: if it's a kernel limitation there is not much you can do in Mythtv
[08:56] <fabbione> you need to fix the drivers first
[08:57] <superm1> fabbione, good point
[08:57] <fabbione> superm1: it would be good if you can actually add these information to the MythTV/ubuntu wiki
[08:57] <fabbione> right now i am porting the HVR3000 code from linuxtv.org to 2.6.20
[08:57] <fabbione> once i get that to build and work i will look into the limitation
[08:57] <fabbione> it might just be a wrong return
[08:58] <superm1> fabbione, i'll add a note about this to troubleshooting then.  very good info
[08:58] <superm1> jetsaredim, have you tried to install the feisty glade packages on edgy?
[08:58] <fabbione> superm1: thanks
[08:58] <superm1> spiderworm,  that log looks prestine
[08:58] <jetsaredim> superm1: too late now
[08:58] <spiderworm> superm1: doesnt it tho?
[08:58] <jetsaredim> I'm basically done the upgrade
[08:59] <superm1> jetsaredim, ah okay :)
[08:59] <jetsaredim> was just not a fun one
[08:59] <jetsaredim> my nvidia stuff got all screwed up
[08:59] <spiderworm> superm1: i bet that poor process was like "dont kill me! i've been good!"
[08:59] <jetsaredim> not even sure if that's really fixed until I reboot
[08:59] <spiderworm> he only THOUGHT he's been good
[08:59] <spiderworm> i just dont know how to get it through his thick skulll....
[08:59] <superm1> jetsaredim, haha
[09:00] <superm1> spiderworm, are you sure that yo uhave the right ip set
[09:00] <superm1> in mythtv-setup
[09:00] <jetsaredim> seems like every time I reboot the nvidia drivers just disappear
[09:00] <spiderworm> superm1: 192.168.0.100 port 6543.... status on 6544... that ip is correct
[09:00] <spiderworm> best i can tell is something in edgy is not allowing it to listen on 6543?
[09:00] <spiderworm> *shrug*
[09:00] <superm1> jetsaredim, using drivers in restricted manager?
[09:01] <superm1> spiderworm, .... hmm
[09:01] <superm1> wait a minute...
[09:01] <superm1> you started as root
[09:01] <superm1> not as mythtv
[09:01] <superm1> oh nvm
[09:01] <superm1> you used the init script
[09:01] <spiderworm> yes
[09:01] <jetsaredim> superm1: ??
[09:01] <superm1> jetsaredim, how did you do nvidia-drivers, linux-restricted-modules?  or from the nvidia installer
[09:02] <superm1> spiderworm, try adding some verbose options
[09:02] <spiderworm> you got it
[09:02] <jetsaredim> nvidia installer?
[09:02] <jetsaredim> i had them installed from edgy
[09:02] <superm1> spiderworm, to /etc/default/mythtv-backend
[09:03] <jetsaredim> i didn't reinstall
[09:03] <superm1> jetsaredim, if you installed from the nvidia installer, u might want to try reverting to open source driver and then using restricted-manager to install directly from ubuntu repos
[09:04] <jetsaredim> o - i had the ??? because I had no idea what you were talking about
[09:04] <jetsaredim> i just installed the drivers from adept
[09:05] <superm1> oh okay
[09:05] <superm1> so what happens that you "lose" it
[09:05] <superm1> the nvidia.ko isn't generated?
[09:05] <jetsaredim> not sure
[09:05] <jetsaredim> like I have it up and working at the moment
[09:05] <superm1> oh wait you just did this today
[09:05] <superm1> right
[09:05] <superm1> or yesterday or so
[09:06] <superm1> because there was a new kernel image released yesterday, but no linux-restricted-modules to compliment it
[09:06] <jetsaredim> i think it has to do with the fact that its being installed into some volatile area
[09:06] <superm1> so if you installed that and rebooted into it
[09:06] <superm1> linux-restricted-modules got released today
[09:06] <jetsaredim> which - 20-13
[09:06] <superm1> yes
[09:06] <jetsaredim> o
[09:07] <superm1> i got bit by that yesterday too
[09:07] <superm1> with my ati drivers
[09:07] <superm1> but since i've had feisty on for a bit, i had an old kernel to revert to until l-r-m was ready
[09:07] <spiderworm> superm1: i accidentally erased /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend ... how to use apt to get it back again?
[09:07] <jetsaredim> it must be now
[09:07] <spiderworm> dpkg-reconfigure mythtv ?
[09:07] <superm1> spiderworm, sudo apt-get install --reinstall mythtv-backend
[09:07] <superm1> should do it
[09:08] <superm1> jetsaredim, yup it is,  i just got it a few hours ago
[09:08] <superm1> from my mirror
[09:08] <superm1> spiderworm, if that doesn't do it, you'll need to apt-get remove --purge mythtv-backend and then do the apt-get install mythtv-backend
[09:14] <spiderworm> superm1: http://pastebin.ca/410908
[09:17] <superm1> does it just sit there?
[09:17] <spiderworm> superm1: indeed
[09:17] <spiderworm> superm1: nothign pops up when mythfrontend tries to connect
[09:18] <spiderworm> superm1: should there be more log output after that or something?
[09:18] <superm1> well it shouldnt just stop in the middle of mysql selects like htat
[09:19] <spiderworm> superm1: i did kill it pretty quickly, i'll let it run a minute or two this time
[09:21] <superm1> spiderworm, k
[09:28] <superm1> spiderworm, you cleaned up all binaries in /usr/local/lib *and* /usr/local/bin right?
[09:29] <superm1> not just one or the other
[09:30] <spiderworm> superm1: yes, and also those in /usr/local/include and /usr/local/share
[09:31] <superm1> this is an existing mythtv-database however right?
[09:31] <superm1> in mysql
[09:32] <superm1> gardengnome, "sudo apt-get install mythtv-database" ?
[09:33] <gardengnome> superm1: i f'ing wish. ;)
[09:34] <superm1> gardengnome, what happened?
[09:34] <gardengnome> this time it's actually because he's using the external IP address to access the DB server. the mythtv-database scripts don't account for that, i suppose. it's not critical, though.
[09:35] <superm1> gardengnome, they *should* be accounting for that
[09:35] <gardengnome> how so?
[09:35] <superm1> oh wait, he is installing the DB on a remote server?
[09:35] <superm1> as in remote mysql server
[09:36] <gardengnome> i don't know.
[09:36] <superm1> well mythtv-database installs on the mysql server you configured in mythtv-common
[09:36] <superm1> so if you choose to do it on a remote server, then as long as it was right in mythtv-common, then it will be fine
[09:37] <superm1> but if you updated /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt manually instead of dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[09:37] <superm1> then it wont
[09:38] <gardengnome> i'll paste our conversation to him. thank you.
[09:38] <superm1> k
[09:38] <gardengnome> i'm gonna update the channel faq or something with this.
[09:39] <gardengnome> so i can yell "RTFM" at people. :)
[09:39] <superm1> haha
[09:39] <superm1> on #mythtv-users?
[09:39] <gardengnome> yeah. the guy i'm talking to is in #mythtv-de though
[09:39] <superm1> ah
[09:40] <superm1> jetsaredim, having connectoin issues it appears?
[09:40] <jetsaredim> omfg
[09:40] <jetsaredim> I need to figure out how to un-break dhclient
[09:41] <jetsaredim> like - I want it to grab the information from resolv.conf on boot
[09:41] <jetsaredim> but then it keeps grabbing it periodically
[09:41] <jetsaredim> which I don't want
[09:41] <superm1> oh i think i know the solution you're looking for.
[09:41] <jetsaredim> cause when I connect to work via my vpn, it needs to put down the vpn network's resolv.conf
[09:43] <jetsaredim> you would be my saviour
[09:43] <spiderworm> superm1: ok i think ive got most things working now
[09:43] <superm1> spiderworm, what'd you have to do
[09:43] <superm1> jetsaredim, i *think* /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[09:44] <jetsaredim> yea
[09:44] <spiderworm> superm1: i can record by doing cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/file.mpg and play it back with mplayer
[09:44] <superm1> spiderworm, that's not entirely a "working" mythtv however...
[09:44] <spiderworm> but tvtime wont play tv and mythfrontend says all available inputs are in use
[09:44] <spiderworm> mythfrontend is connecting to backend now )
[09:44] <spiderworm> :)
[09:45] <superm1> spiderworm, how'd you get mythfrontend connecting
[09:45] <spiderworm> superm1: i waited :D
[09:45] <superm1> haha
[09:45] <spiderworm> it finally showed up on netstat and i connected
[09:45] <spiderworm> now i need to figure out why "no inputs are availble"
[09:45] <spiderworm> bullcrap!
[09:46] <superm1> were you doing the cat /dev/video0 as the backend was starting?
[09:46] <superm1> perhaps during the time it would have init'ed the card
[09:46] <spiderworm> superm1: no
[09:46] <superm1> jetsaredim, you need a dhclient hook from what i gather
[09:46] <superm1> in /etc/dhcp3
[09:46] <spiderworm> i'll restart backend to be sure tho
[09:47] <superm1> jetsaredim, this discusses how to do it: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_dhclient-script.htm
[09:47] <superm1> you need to redefine a hook that is made by dhclient
[09:48] <superm1> jetsaredi1, not sure if you saw the posts before since you appear to be vpn'ed now: jetsaredim, this discusses how to do it: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_dhclient-script.htm
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[09:49] <jetsaredi1> I just commented out the timeout value
[09:50] <superm1> and that did it?
[09:50] <jetsaredi1> just to see if it works
[09:50] <jetsaredi1> not sure yet
[09:50] <superm1> :)
[09:50] <jetsaredi1> usually happens around 2 min
[09:50] <superm1> how are things looking for ubiquity other than the glade issues you ran into?
[09:51] <jetsaredi1> fuck
[09:53] <superm1> ?
[09:53] <jetsaredi1> reverted back
[09:55] <superm1> jetsaredi1, what vpn client?
[09:55] <superm1> cisco i'd imagine?
[09:55] <jetsaredi1> yea
[09:56] <spiderworm> superm1: everything is working great now, thanks superm1
[09:57] <spiderworm> *hug*
[09:57] <spiderworm> *slobbery kiss*
[09:57] <superm1> spiderworm, wonderful that it works :)
[09:57] <superm1> spiderworm, see binary packages aren't that bad eh?
[09:57] <spiderworm> *shrug* we'll see :)
[09:57] <superm1> jetsaredi1, you seen bug 92761
[09:57] <ubotu> Malone bug 92761 in network-manager "resolv.conf overwritten no matter what I do" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92761
[09:57] <spiderworm> i've used debs before... you just keep them up to date, ya hear me? ;)
[09:58] <superm1> spiderworm, haha
[09:58] <spiderworm> you just do all the work while i have some fun, got it? ;)
[09:58] <superm1> spiderworm, as long as you spread the help around in case you see someone else running into this, i'm all over that
[09:59] <superm1> spiderworm, particularly #mythtv-users, as i'm sure people in there run into stuff like this all the time
[09:59] <spiderworm> superm1: tell ya wat, i'll autojoin and help people in her efrom time to time
[09:59] <superm1> spiderworm, cool :)
[09:59] <spiderworm> if you ever need help with blender btw im sort of a bigwig in the community
[09:59] <spiderworm> sort of
[09:59] <spiderworm> maybe a medium wig
[10:00] <spiderworm> ok a pretty small frikkin wig but i can at least offer some help & support
[10:00] <superm1> spiderworm, i dont even know what blender is?
[10:00] <spiderworm> blender 3d?!
[10:00] <superm1> i've heard its name thrown around
[10:00] <gardengnome> blender is a ncie 3d modeling app.
[10:00] <superm1> but no idea what it was
[10:00] <spiderworm> my gosh man, /join #blender3d already!
[10:00] <gardengnome> i totally suck at it. :)
[10:00] <superm1> sorta like solidworks?
[10:00] <spiderworm> er oops
[10:00] <spiderworm>  i mean, /join #blender
[10:00] <gardengnome> spiderworm: do you want him to play with blender or make nice packages for us? ;)) (j/k)
[10:00] <superm1> haha
[10:00] <spiderworm> superm1: more like maya
[10:01] <spiderworm> gardengnome: a bit of both!
[10:01] <superm1> i'll install it, and it to my list of things to toy around with :)
[10:02] <gardengnome> it's really nifty.
[10:02] <spiderworm> superm1: you can blame me for this popular documentation: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[10:03] <superm1> spiderworm, nice.  adding it to del.icio.us right now
[10:03] <spiderworm> superm1: actually i have another question for you
[10:03] <superm1> spiderworm, sure shoot
[10:03] <spiderworm> i still want to play around with the source checkouts
[10:03] <gardengnome> spiderworm: thanks for that guide
[10:04] <superm1> jetsaredi1, did you look through some of the stuff on that bug?  seems to have a few possible solutions
[10:04] <spiderworm> how reasonable is it to build myth from source in a /home directory while there is a package install on the system?
[10:04] <superm1> spiderworm, source checkouts as in svn or 0.20-fixes
[10:04] <spiderworm> both, probably :)
[10:04] <Xenocide> hey hey everyone
[10:04] <superm1> spiderworm,  well once you introduce a machine running svn into your network, expect troubles for all non-svn machines
[10:05] <superm1> especially if you use a common database
[10:05] <spiderworm> superm1: at this point, only one machine is running mythfrontend
[10:05] <superm1> well moreover, once you go svn - dont expect to be able to go back
[10:05] <superm1> hey Xenocide
[10:05] <Xenocide> hey
[10:05] <Xenocide> bout to bounce, gonna get food before physics class
[10:05] <spiderworm> im more concerned about building when there are libraries from .deb packages on the system
[10:07] <superm1> spiderworm, well the most intelligent thing to do here, would be start building your source packages into debs
[10:07] <superm1> that way you can easily manage both
[10:07] <superm1> and switch quickly between the two
[10:07] <superm1> if need be
[10:07] <spiderworm> i should learn to do that huh
[10:07] <spiderworm> i'll give that a roll
[10:08] <superm1> spiderworm, its unfortunately a bit involved at first
[10:08] <superm1> i have a post on the forums outlining the basic process
[10:11] <jetsaredi1> superm1: that bug seems sorta like what I'm seeing
[10:11] <jetsaredi1> though in my case the 192.168.1.1 is the nameserver on my local subnet
[10:12] <superm1> jetsaredi1, there is a few hacks in there that you might be able to get by using hopefully
[10:13] <jetsaredi1> i just wrote a little script that copies over the resolv.conf with the version for my vpn
[10:13] <superm1> over and over?
[10:14] <jetsaredi1> yep
[10:14] <jetsaredi1> brute force, baby
[10:15] <superm1> a bit of a dirty hack, but functional i guess :)
[10:15] <jetsaredi1> yea
[10:15] <jetsaredi1> at this point I'm just fed up with dealing with it
[10:15] <jetsaredi1> it wouldn't be so bad
[10:16] <jetsaredi1> I used to just remove dhcp3 and install dhcpcd
[10:16] <jetsaredi1> which isn't as invasive
[10:17] <superm1> ah
[10:20] <jetsaredi1> but for some reason the network-manager app needs dhcp3
[10:20] <jetsaredi1> I tried removing it, but I end up getting errors when I open konsole or things like that
[10:21] <superm1> wow thats bizarre
[10:21] <jetsaredi1> yea
[11:04] <superm1> looks to have worked :)
[11:06] <superm1> jetsaredi1, i'll catch up with you later more on ubiquity
[11:06] <superm1> gotta run
[11:07] <jetsaredi1> k
[11:07] <Xenocide^> wifi is so flaky