limbert65I've fixed the font sizes in the system menus and the window title bars, but in Mozilla and Sunbird, the menu fonts are huge, and on the desktop the icons are spaced very widely.  Don't know how to fix these.12:23
limbert65Any help appreciated.12:23
PuMpErNiCkLeJust the menu fonts?  Text in webpages renders properly?12:24
limbert65yes, the page fonts are fine, it's just the menu fonts, and only (as far as I can tell) in Firefox and Sunbird.  Not, oddly, in Thunderbird.12:25
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PuMpErNiCkLeHow did you fix the font size problems in the rest of the system?12:42
limbert65Just by using the Settings Manager, under User Interface and Window manager.  Those sizes had changed to 9, and I just changed them back to 12.12:43
PuMpErNiCkLeIf you change the DPI, then the menu fonts in Firefox should return to normal.  The others would be temporarily messed up, but changing the size back would fix that.12:43
limbert65Chaning the DPI where?12:44
limbert65Changing, sorry.12:44
PuMpErNiCkLeShould be in the 'details' or 'advanced' section of the font preferences.12:45
PuMpErNiCkLeI'd check, but I'm using Gnome.12:46
limbert65You mean this setting should be somewhere in Xfce's preferences, or in Mozilla's?  I'm hunting, but I'm not finding anything.12:47
limbert65Under Mozilla, I'm finding only ways to change the page fonts, nothing about the menus.  Strange also that it's affecting Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Sunbird, but is not affecting Mozilla Thunderbird (or any other app that I can find).12:48
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limbert65ok, hunting....12:48
limbert65not finding....12:50
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limbert65Yeah, I'm not finding anything.  Not finding anything helpful by googling it, either.  Found one other discussion going on of a person with the same problem, and no one knowing how to fix it either.12:54
limbert65Just annoying in Firefox, but it makes Sunbird unusable.  Totally screws up the page formatting.12:55
limbert65Smashes things into each other.12:55
limbert65And this happened just by inserting a CD.  System totally locked up, had to force-restart.12:55
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PuMpErNiCkLeWell, here's the config file version. http://xubuntulinux.blogspot.com/2006/07/ubuntu-set-correct-dpi-for-x-server.html12:57
PuMpErNiCkLeI was looking for a screenshot of the font config util, but found that first.12:57
vidd_laptopwhen is fiesty supposed to go live?12:58
limbert65k, I'll check that, thanks.12:58
limbert65So, what you're thinking I should do is change the DPI then change it back?12:59
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t3sterhey guys01:02
t3steri found the 704 beta im running it right now01:02
vidd_laptop*wave* t3ster01:02
t3sterproblem is my graphics gForce 2 is only half correct01:03
t3sterthe splash is showing up, but im getting the "no display on 0.0" error01:03
t3sterdoes ne1 know the next step that should fix it all the way?01:03
vidd_laptopt3ster, have you tried to reconfigure x?01:04
t3steri did last time, but not on this beta.  you think i should run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sxorg" ???01:05
tonyyarussot3ster: #ubuntu+1 for all feisty issues01:05
limbert65I'm hunting through about:config in Firefox, and interestingly there is no line for browser:display:screen_resolution.  Shouldn't there be?01:05
t3sterOK ty tony01:05
limbert65I mean browser.display.screen_resolution01:06
t3stercant i ujust edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?01:06
t3sterit looked OK when i checked it   =(01:06
t3stermy display section is-01:07
t3sterIdentifier"nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] "01:08
vidd_laptopt3ster, you have 2 video cards on this box?01:08
t3sternope not even a built in one im pretty sure01:09
t3sterits amd box01:09
t3sterand im using the glx-legacy  pak  like i should for my gForce201:09
vidd_laptopdid reconfigure x fix it on edgy?01:09
t3sterno oddly enuf i cant get it going on 611 either01:10
t3sterthe 606 was doing it though01:10
t3steri hope that helps.   ?01:10
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vidd_laptopit does...acually01:10
superkirbyartistCan someone help me edit the Xfce menu, please?01:11
vidd_laptopi recomend you try to reconfigure x01:11
vidd_laptopsuperkirbyartist, what do you want to do with it?01:11
superkirbyartistVidd_Laptop: I cannot edit menus such as office, graphics, etc.01:11
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB01:12
ubotublender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro01:12
=== vidd_laptop dontthink you CAN edit those menus....
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: they are generated automatically from the files in /usr/share/applications01:12
=== superkirbyartist thinks that there should be some way. In Gnome, yes.
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: you can, however, add something to them -- just make a submenu that is called the same01:13
vidd_laptop>.< this aint gnome?01:13
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superkirbyartistAnyone familiar with Criawips?01:15
ubotucriawips: A Presentation application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.11-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 176 kB01:15
=== TheSheep does presentations in vim
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ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code01:17
=== superkirbyartist thinks TheSheep is weird, as vim is a text editor :(
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: aren't presentations mostly text?01:17
superkirbyartistTheSheep: The boring ones, yes.01:18
superkirbyartistTheSheep: Once we saw this presentation, litteraly 95% of the screen was filled with tiny text.  Only two or so images.01:19
vidd_laptop95% text = instantaneous drowsiness01:20
TheSheepthat's bad, of course, but having lots of images doesn't make the presentation good either01:20
TheSheeptiny text = bad01:20
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pygijani around perhaps?01:20
TheSheepthe text should go into your notes and *maybe* a little of it into the handouts01:20
vidd_laptop!seen jani01:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen jani - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:21
crdlbvidd_laptop, use seenserv01:21
pygi!seen janimo01:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen janimo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:21
pygino go :P01:21
crdlblike this: /msg seenserv seen jani01:21
crdlb /msg seenserv seen jani01:22
pygiright, got it01:22
pygiover 1 day, ergh :P01:22
vidd_laptopty crdlb01:22
crdlbjust found out about it like yesterday myself01:22
superkirbyartistAnyone knows a good xubuntu presentations program, please?01:23
crdlbsuperkirbyartist, Powerpoint in wine :D01:23
vidd_laptopsuperkirbyartist, impress (OOo) works for me01:23
superkirbyartistWill Criawips be fixed in Feisty?01:23
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crdlbit's not nearly done yet01:23
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ubotucriawips: A Presentation application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.11-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 176 kB01:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about impress - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:24
TheSheepit's part of open office01:25
vidd_laptopi know01:25
TheSheep!info openoffice-impress01:25
ubotuPackage openoffice-impress does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas01:25
ubotuopenoffice.org-impress: OpenOffice.org office suite - presentation. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 740 kB, installed size 2732 kB01:26
vidd_laptopsuperkirbyartist, try that01:26
TheSheephmm... firefox3 seems to be faster01:26
TheSheepthen 201:27
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:27
superkirbyartistvidd_laptop I need a lightweight one.01:27
superkirbyartistTheSheep Firefox 3 takes less memory?01:27
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: not sure01:27
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: didn't test that, but I've heard there is some work on it01:27
=== vidd_laptop didnt know there WAS a lightweight presentation program!
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: there are some obvious design mistakes that make ff take so much ram01:28
TheSheepvidd_laptop: lots of them, in whole spectrum of advancement01:28
vidd_laptopand crash java?01:28
superkirbyartistTheSheep: FF is a ressource hog but not as much as IE7.  Pre-IE7s are worse.01:28
vidd_laptophah....NOTHING is worse then IE7....imo01:29
TheSheepI still wait for them to separate the core browser from the bells and whistles and allow me to install "just browser", without themes, rss, xul, etc.01:29
TheSheepvidd_laptop: ie601:29
PuMpErNiCkLeTheSheep: ie501:30
TheSheepvidd_laptop: if you ever done web development you'll know that ie7 is like salvation compared to 4, 5 and 601:30
vidd_laptopTheSheep, you think M$ is going to release "JUST" the browser??? or ff?01:30
superkirbyartistTheSheep RSS is good.01:30
TheSheepvidd_laptop: ff01:30
TheSheepvidd_laptop: at least I hope01:30
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: I prefer other apps for rss01:30
superkirbyartistTheSheep: How does it make a difference?01:30
vidd_laptopTheSheep, i tried my hand at it...but i suck01:31
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: less cruft = more stability, less ram, more speed01:31
vidd_laptopso i will bow to your experience01:31
TheSheepvidd_laptop: the day when ie6 disappears from web the designers will be dancing on the streets01:32
TheSheepand run over by trucks en masse01:32
vidd_laptopit will be a LONG way away01:32
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)01:32
superkirbyartistWhat are new changes in Xubuntu 7.04?01:33
vidd_laptopi know hundreds of ppl still using win9801:33
TheSheepvidd_laptop: doesn't matter01:33
vidd_laptopi know ppl still running 95!01:33
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents01:33
TheSheepvidd_laptop: the boss who tells you to make the page will use ie701:33
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant01:33
TheSheep!botabuse | superkirbyartist01:34
ubotusuperkirbyartist: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...01:34
superkirbyartistTheSheep I am not abusing the bot... I want more info on Windows.01:34
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html01:34
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: then use /msg01:34
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: first warning01:34
superkirbyartistOkay, now, where can I find presentations app?01:35
vidd_laptopTheSheep = op?01:35
TheSheepyou can give the commands via private messages01:35
TheSheepvidd_laptop: only here :)01:35
vidd_laptoplol....that's all that matters here!01:35
vidd_laptopso you dont think "The Boss" will care that there are thousands of ppl that wont be able to view the page you develop?01:36
vidd_laptopseems rather insane01:37
superkirbyartistPresentations... please?01:37
PuMpErNiCkLeThe Boss can be convinved to make compromises.01:37
vidd_laptopsuperkirbyartist, we already made our recomendations01:37
superkirbyartistvidd_laptop?  What are they?01:37
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vidd_laptopimpress in OOo or wine M$'s offering01:38
TheSheepvidd_laptop: he won't even know -- he's not aware that there *are* different browsers01:38
TheSheepvidd_laptop: really, they usually only care how the page looks on their computer01:39
TheSheepvidd_laptop: you can sometimes get away by installing firefox for them ;)01:39
superkirbyartistWhat about Ubuntu and PowerPC?01:39
vidd_laptopTheSheep, i believe you....i dont know how many "bosses" i talk to that know jack ^%# about simple internet related things01:39
superkirbyartistAnd what about Xubuntu Feisty changes?01:40
vidd_laptopsuperkirbyartist, same recomendations for them as well01:40
TheSheepvidd_laptop: then again, there those smarter ones that just want it to work on 80% of computers01:40
TheSheepvidd_laptop: and it happens that 80% of computers run msie01:40
superkirbyartistWhat can we expect from Xubuntu Feisty?01:40
vidd_laptopsuperkirbyartist, for fiesty issues, please consult #ubuntu+101:41
vidd_laptopTheSheep, so what issues were there with ie6 +<?01:43
vidd_laptopfrom the developer's POV?01:44
vidd_laptopthat IE7 fixed01:44
TheSheepvidd_laptop: totally different rules for rendering pages than specified by w3c01:44
TheSheepvidd_laptop: starting from a different box model, through rendering bus, unsupported vital parts of the spec and finishing with custom extensions MS added01:45
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TheSheepvidd_laptop: World WIde Web Consortium, the organisation that standarises html, css, etc.01:45
TheSheepshould probably be wc ;)01:46
vidd_laptopso M$ thought it would ignore the w3c and make it's OWN rules, expecting w3c to change?01:46
vidd_laptopor to maybe make ppl only use IE?01:47
TheSheepvidd_laptop: no idea, ask Steve01:47
vidd_laptopi love it when ppl call up and say "Myfront page extensions dont work" and they hosted on a linux server01:48
TheSheepvidd_laptop: I think it was in large part the fact that w3c based the specification on netscape in large part01:48
vidd_laptop^are hosted^01:48
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TheSheepvidd_laptop: it doesn't matter how they are hosted -- it works on the client's machine, no? unless you mean ASP or something01:49
vidd_laptopno idea....i just get the calls and i tell them we dont support front page extensions AT ALL01:49
vidd_laptopthen they expect us to jump thru hoops to get thier stuff to work01:52
TheSheepthat's understandable01:53
TheSheepusers don't care about some corporate machinations01:54
TheSheepthey just want things working01:54
vidd_laptop"Please read sub-paragraph E, section 3 of theservice agreement....'At no time shall Front page extentions or any other non-standard protocols be supported'"01:54
vidd_laptopthen they say "well i want to be on a windows server then"....01:55
vidd_laptop"thats your choice....but front page extentions are not guarenteed there either01:56
vidd_laptop"so how do i get front page extention to work"01:56
vidd_laptop"co-locate a box, and run your own server"01:57
vidd_laptopits only and addition 125$ a month....01:57
vidd_laptop=] 01:57
vidd_laptopwould you like me to tranfer you to sales?01:57
vidd_laptopacually...i dont know what the cost is to co-locate a box....its sales job to talk about that02:00
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tonyyarussoquiet day here03:21
tonyyarussoI have some transparency options set right now, and don't remember how I got them, but need to turn them off b/c my video driver is complaining.  Where is that?03:22
ormiretwindow manager settings?03:22
ormiretI was close :)03:25
tonyyarussoyep - close enough for me to find it :)03:27
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Jester45can more than one program use the same port?03:32
tonyyarussonot simultaneously03:33
Jester45do want to help me fix a double NAT problem?03:33
Jester45my modem and router both have NAT either can be turned off03:34
Jester45right now im tring to forward all ports to my router and then spliT THOSE PORTS OFF to the needed computers03:34
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sigmamu188dose anyone know how to switch the default monitor in twinview04:28
sigmamu188the one i want to be default is the second moniter04:28
sigmamu188and i really dont want to use the flat panel as the extra04:28
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead04:29
crdlbsigmamu188, have you followed that guide?04:29
sigmamu188no i used the nvidia guide04:29
sigmamu188got the dual moniters set up04:29
sigmamu188but i can figure how to set the flatpanel as the default04:29
sigmamu188and the crt as the 2nd04:29
ubotumozilla-browser: The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 9797 kB, installed size 29720 kB04:30
ormiretsigmamu188: I think it will be which monitor you set up as Screen 0 in the server layout section04:34
sigmamu188it shows sreeen 0 and screen 104:37
sigmamu188but no setting to switch them04:37
sigmamu188i dont think04:37
sigmamu188under desktop preferences04:38
ormiretwhich is which is set in xorg.conf (and I don't think you actually set them in serverlayout now that I've thought about it a bit more...)04:39
ormiretstick your xorg.conf in pastebin and I'll have a look to see what changes switch what is screen 004:40
sigmamu188paste bin04:41
sigmamu188new to me04:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:42
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Shaba1Hello all04:46
sigmamu188ormiret: im running a nvidia card with dvi and vga output04:46
Shaba1are there any step by step sites for doing a live cd install of xubuntu?04:46
Shaba1I am not finding any at the official site04:46
sigmamu188i what the dvi to be screen 004:46
sigmamu188Shaba1: frist linux intsall?04:47
Shaba1Well no04:47
Shaba1first one for myself04:47
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tonyyarussoOkay, you guys know the Orage calendar applet?  Would it be terribly hard to make the tray icon show the correct day of the month instead of just 31 all the time?04:48
Shaba1I tried installing unbuntu on the machines at work becasue they were too cheap to by 15 windows licences04:48
Shaba1But I finally gave up04:48
Shaba1MS agent will not work under wine04:48
Shaba1and the web site out kids need to go to has to have that.04:48
Shaba1for tutoring04:48
Shaba1Anyway no04:48
Shaba1but first xunbuntu install04:48
Shaba1I am downloading the live cd now04:49
sigmamu188shaba1: are you just wanting to run it as a live cd or do you want to hard install it?04:49
Shaba1I been fighting with 3 live cd of unbuntu for 5 hours now04:49
Shaba1until someone in #unbuntu told me I did not have enough ram on my laptop04:49
Shaba1No I want to install it04:49
sigmamu188shaba1: do you have a open partition on the laptop?04:50
sigmamu188you need a non NTFS partition04:50
BFTDisn't it with ubuntu-minimal and then upgrade from within04:50
Shaba1and I NEED to be able to run grub to make a linux/xubuntu partion04:50
Shaba1just like a Edgy install04:50
sigmamu188shsab1: you cant install on NTFS partition04:50
Shaba1OH shit04:50
Shaba1this is too damn hard04:51
Shaba1it just is04:51
Shaba1I mean I love what I see in linux04:51
sigmamu188NTFS is a propriety file system that linux cant write to04:51
Shaba1but this is gettin getting frustrating04:51
sigmamu188i think you can repartition with partition magic04:51
sigmamu188without losing data04:51
BFTD!language : Shaba104:51
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers04:51
Shaba1yeah if I want to spend $7904:51
sigmamu188try torrentreactor04:52
sigmamu188if you dont mind cracked software04:52
sigmamu188i would ~never~ run craked software04:52
Shaba1so xunbuntu does not come with gparted?04:52
Shaba1is that correct?04:52
sigmamu188i think it dose04:52
sigmamu188but you will probably lose data04:53
Shaba1think sigmamu18804:53
Shaba1sorry not to be rude04:53
Shaba1but I am realy frustrated right about now04:53
Shaba1I need to KNOW04:53
sigmamu188i was trying to think of a windows way to do it04:53
Shaba1according to the ubuntu site I can do it from the livecD04:53
Shaba1On a livecd install it runs gparted and lets you repartion the primary hard drive04:54
sigmamu188i don't know if you can repartition without losing data from the live cd04:54
Shaba1according to the gparted site04:54
Shaba1you can resize and ntfs partition04:54
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sigmamu188is that where you coming into the problem?04:55
sigmamu188just running gparted04:55
Shaba1I am coming into problems just getting install to run04:55
sigmamu188or are you trying to resize from the install screen?04:55
Shaba1on these 3 ubuntu livecds I have04:56
sigmamu188at the select partition to install?04:56
Shaba1I never get that far04:56
sigmamu188how far do you get?04:56
Shaba1farthest I have gotten is the Where are you located screen and then the desktop locks up and the mouse does not respong04:56
Shaba1and I have to reboot04:57
sigmamu188did you checkmedia before the install04:58
sigmamu188run the xubuntu cd at boot04:59
sigmamu188and select the media check04:59
sigmamu188or check media04:59
sigmamu188or something like that04:59
sigmamu188and if 0 checksum05:00
sigmamu188then the cd is good and try to install05:00
sigmamu188but it will not let you resize or install to ntfs file system with the cd05:00
sigmamu188or rather install prompt05:00
sigmamu188i know for a fact05:00
sigmamu188been there done that05:01
Shaba1I am still downloading the xbuntu live cd05:01
Shaba1as I said before05:01
Shaba1I have been trying 3 unbuntu live cds all day05:01
sigmamu188look pal im just trying to help05:01
Shaba1until finally someone in the channel told me that I do nto have enough ram05:01
Shaba1and suggested xubuntu05:01
sigmamu188run a media check on the live cd05:01
sigmamu188how much ram do you have?05:02
ormiretShaba1: if the problems are lack of RAM you probably wont get on any better with the Xubuntu live CD than the ubuntu ones - the alternate CD has lower memory requirements but no graphical interface05:02
Shaba1I know05:02
Shaba1but you are not listening05:02
Shaba1and I am frustrated05:02
Shaba1and I hate repeating myself05:02
Shaba1especially when I am frustrated05:03
sigmamu188i am listening05:04
sigmamu188brb have to reboot05:04
PuMpErNiCkLeWhat was the problem?05:04
PuMpErNiCkLeThe original problem, I mean.05:05
Shaba1damn orimet now somone tells me this05:06
ormirethow much RAM have you got?05:07
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ormiretwb sigmamu188, any luck?05:08
sigmamu188but i think i might have found a solution05:08
sigmamu188just trying to emplement now05:09
ormiretIt was the Xinerama way that I was thinking of for a start, twinview seems to automagically do some of it, which is great until it automagically doesn't do what you want :)05:10
ormiretShaba1: that should be enough to run the Xubuntu Live CD.05:10
Shaba1well I will let you know05:10
Shaba1that is not the problem05:11
Shaba1I want :05:11
Shaba1#1 run the livecd05:11
Shaba1#2 use grub to resize my windows partion05:11
Shaba1#3 put xubuntu onto that space I have opened up05:12
Shaba1#4 get a menu at boot as to which os I want to start05:12
ormiretgrub is a bootloader, not for resizing partitions - gparted is integrated into the installer but I'm not sure how good it is at resizing NTFS while keeping the data intact.05:12
ormiretgrub is what gives you the menu at bootup to choose what OS you want05:13
Shaba1I should have type "use gparted to resize my windows partion"05:14
ormiretlooks like it should work from the installer, but as with all things playing with partitions things sometimes go wrong so make backups of anything important before you start.05:15
sigmamu188he is running NTFS05:16
ormiretyeah, apparently ntfsresize is integrated into the installer.05:17
Shaba1I got everything copied to this desktop05:17
Shaba1so not a problem05:17
Shaba1it was lucky to because I tried partiton logic on friday and it wiped out my laptop hd05:17
Shaba1I had to install windows from the recovery cd05:18
sigmamu188bout to re boot05:21
sigmamu188not sure if i did this right05:21
Shaba1the xubuntu live cd is burning now05:25
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sigmamu188ok didnt work05:26
sigmamu188it gave me an error message05:27
sigmamu188and i would not load up the gui05:27
ormiretwhat was the error? and can you put the new xorg.conf in the pastebin?05:28
sigmamu188i lost it05:29
sigmamu188had to restore the backup05:29
sigmamu188let me re write what i wrote and paste it05:29
ormiretIt's time like this I think /etc should have a version control system.05:30
ricia subversion mount, maybe :)05:31
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:38
Shaba1I just burned the xbuntu live cd05:40
Shaba1put in in the laptop05:40
sigmamu188ormiret: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12098/05:40
Shaba1not I get a [DR-DOS] A:\ prompt05:40
Shaba1What is that about05:41
ormiretsigmamu188: your "Device[0] " section is missing an S for section05:41
ormiretthat shouldn't get you to a DOS prompt though :/05:41
ormiretbah sorry I'm confusing people05:42
ormiretShaba1: is there anything in the floppy drive?05:42
Shaba1there is not floppy drive05:43
ormirethow did you burn the ISO?05:44
Shaba1using nero05:44
ormiretif you look at the CD in windows what does it show as on it?05:44
Shaba1hold on now I gotta boot windows05:45
Shaba1this is too damn hard05:45
Shaba1it says "xubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso"05:49
ormiretyou haven't burned the disk properly then, hang on a minute I'll try and get instructions for nero.05:50
Shaba1nero 605:51
Shaba1and does it make a difference if it is a cd-r or cd-rw?05:51
ron_oit shouldn't Shaba1, but if you have many problems you might be better off with cd-r.05:52
ron_oI use cd-rw all the time with no problems at all.05:52
ormiretShaba1: is there a "Burn image" in the file menu of your version of nero? (none of the instructions I can find give a version)05:54
ormiretah, found one for 6: http://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm#Nero%20Burning%20ROM05:56
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sigmamu188fixed the s and still would not work05:58
ormiretwhat error are you getting?05:58
sigmamu188xorg.conf video card error05:58
sigmamu188have to reconfigure the vid card05:58
sigmamu188just like the driver error05:58
sigmamu188i used to get05:59
sigmamu188used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xconf05:59
sigmamu188nog -xconf05:59
Shaba1hold on I will try to find it06:00
ormiretsigmamu188: can you got a copy of the working xorg.conf that dpkg-reconfigure produces?06:01
sigmamu188let me do that now06:01
Shaba1disk image ormiret06:03
ormiretwhat? is that the closest you can find? For nero 6 there should be a "Burn Image..." option in the recorder menu.06:04
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sigmamu188thats the rebuild06:08
sigmamu188this is the error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12100/06:10
riciormiret: i think some oem versions of nero are lacking that feature.06:10
rici"Nero Express"06:10
sigmamu188brb ormiret06:12
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ormiretShaba1: if you do have a version of nero without iso burnign capabilities like rici said follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto06:14
ricii used infrarecorder. it was painless.06:15
riciafter spending probably an hour trying to figure out why nero wouldn't do it. :)06:15
sigmamu188ormiret: any guesses?06:18
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sigmamu188this is driving me nuts06:30
ormiretsigmamu188: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12102/ is what I think it should be...06:31
sigmamu188ok ill reboot and let you know06:32
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sigmamu188no dice06:35
sigmamu188still backwards06:35
riciwhat happens?06:35
sigmamu188the dvi is still the 2nd moniter06:35
sigmamu188and the vga 1st06:35
sigmamu188i switched screen 1 and 0 in the identifier section06:38
sigmamu188let me see if that works06:38
ricii would have thought that he wanted RightOf instead of LeftOf06:39
ricibut that's based on english, not xinerama, so i could be completely wrong.06:39
ormiretI don't think that will change which pipe is used for the default just where in the coords the default screen is put.06:40
Shaba1this seems to be working Orionisti06:41
Shaba1I mean06:41
ormiretShaba1: excellent!06:42
Shaba1actually I am quiting the install06:43
Shaba1In order to use gparted for a live cd06:43
ormiretis gparted not on the Xubuntu live CD?06:45
Shaba1well it did have a partioning program06:55
Shaba1but I did not know if it is gparted06:55
Shaba1so I am canceling the install06:55
Shaba1and using a gparted livecd06:55
ormiretyeah, probably best to err on the side of caution when partitioning :)06:56
ricii was pleasantly surprised to find that windows vista lets you resize ntfs partitions06:56
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ricihey, do you know anything about thermal monitoring? this CPU has been showing exactly 40.0 degrees since i started it up a couple of weeks ago, which seems wrong.06:58
ricithe bios itself is locked with a password so i can't verify it at reboot.06:58
riciif i didn't have to give the machine back, i'd figure out how to delete the password.06:59
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ormiretThe extent of my thermal monitoring experience is putting my hand near the airvent to see if the machine is running hot...07:03
riciyeah, i did that and it is.07:03
riciso 40 just seems wrong.07:03
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sigmamu188im at a loss07:04
sigmamu188there has to be a way to switch moniter 0 and 1 positions07:04
ormiretsigmamu188: I think I might have found a solution, if you go back to the TwinView set up that was working and add a line Option "ConnectedMonitor" "DFP,CRT"07:05
ormiretin the Section "Device"07:05
sigmamu188int he xorg.conf?07:06
sigmamu188whicih section device?07:06
ormiretwith TwinView there should only be one07:06
ormiretthis is going back quite a bit...07:07
sigmamu188oh so load the old file?07:07
sigmamu188http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12104/ is what i have after sudo nvidia-xconfig -Twinview07:12
sigmamu188i have 2 device sections07:12
ormiretThat's just added TwinView to what you had before...07:14
sigmamu188hold on07:15
ormiretI think you want something like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12107/07:16
sigmamu188so in the section device for "generic video card"07:17
ormiretI put it in the Section "Screen" with the other options07:17
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sigmamu188brb reboot07:19
t3sterhey, im trying to launch quake.x11. i have an "id1" directry with my wads in there, lowercase names, i try to launch it from inside the directory- like-  ./quake.x11 , but when i try that , it says cannot launch no such file or directory EVEN THOUGH its autocompleting the name07:20
t3sterwhat the heck is going on????   =S07:20
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ormiretodd, can you put the output of 'ls -l' for that directory in the pastebin?07:22
t3sterall owned by root07:22
ormiretwhat about permissions?07:22
t3ster-rwxr-xr-x is the perms on the quake.x1107:23
t3sterbash gives error on them too07:23
ormiretwhich them? and what error?07:24
t3sterive also tried squake07:24
t3sterthinking OK maybe x isnt liking it07:25
t3stercant get either to go07:25
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ormiretso I am kind of stabbing in the dark for what might be wrong...07:27
t3sterand i can launch the readmes and things in this directory07:31
t3sterit is only when i try to execute the ones from ID07:31
t3steri have tyr-quake too I try & that half goes then dies =(07:31
t3steri CANT execute the ones from id. it says theres nothing there even tho it has a size and perms07:32
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t3steris it because i have it all sitting inside dir sitting on desktop?07:34
sigmamu188didnt work07:34
t3sterdoes it Have to b in /usr/local/games/quake?07:34
sigmamu188wouldnt even boot07:35
sigmamu188had to use recovery mode to dpkg-reconfigure07:35
t3sterill try coping the dir07:35
ormiretsigmamu188: hmmm, that option maybe should be in the device section...07:36
sigmamu188said fatal error string 1107:36
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sigmamu188thanks for all the help i guess ill just have to keep working on it tomorrow i need to get some sleep07:51
sigmamu188work in 4 hours07:51
sigmamu188maybe ill just call miller tomorrow07:52
sigmamu188ormiret: thanks for all the help07:52
ormiretnp, hope you get it working.07:52
sigmamu188thanks ill let you know07:52
sigmamu188you usually on with that name?07:53
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sigmamu188ill let you knwo07:53
sigmamu188night all07:53
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Darkkishgiam keeps crashing08:05
Darkkishat random08:05
DarkkishLike one moment i'll be talking, and then bam, gaim is gone.08:05
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Shaba1anyone still here?08:48
ricii am, but i'm leaving soon too08:57
Shaba1Do you know anything about gparted09:04
Shaba1I resized my windows ntsf partition to clear up 11.2gb of unallocated space09:05
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Shaba1never mind09:35
Shaba1I just went for it if it messes up it does09:35
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rimmingtonbesides updated apps (which are available via apt anyway) will there be any compelling reason to upgrade to 7.04?12:42
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mstfi have a problem about vbox02:11
mstfto add vbox graphic driver02:11
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mstfwhich package to install on synapt?02:12
mstfPlease install the build and header files for your current Linux kernel.02:12
mstfThe current kernel version is 2.6.15-28-38602:12
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liutisall are sitting in silent.. ;)02:53
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judazhey, i need help.. How can I navigate a samba server with xubuntu feisty?04:54
judaza workgroup04:54
judazi need to get inside other computer... in a lan04:54
j1mcjudaz: google for fusesmb xubuntu samba.  :-)  there's a good thread on the forums about it.04:58
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h00t hello i've installed totem-xine w/ w32codecs but still can't play avi files ... anyone has any ideas06:49
PuMpErNiCkLeDid you install libxine-extracodecs?06:53
PuMpErNiCkLe!info libxine-extracodecs06:54
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB06:54
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chooserEvening :) Tell me, does xubuntu detect and allow mounting of other partitions yet?08:36
maxamillionchooser: it always has08:38
maxamillionchooser: it just doesn't do so automatically08:38
chooserHmm.. Ok. I'll try cd again and check fstab. thankyou08:39
maxamillionchooser: no problem08:40
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esci need help09:49
esci have just added a user with the root recovery shell09:50
escand now i can't start any of the guis with that user09:50
esceven though i have added that user to sudoers09:50
PuMpErNiCkLeguis == administrative applications?09:52
PuMpErNiCkLeIs the new user in the admin group?09:52
eschmm probably not09:52
PuMpErNiCkLeBy default, sudoers includes all members of that group.09:52
PuMpErNiCkLeAdding the new user should be enough.09:52
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eschmm, there is no "admin" group in /etc/group09:54
escok, i think that i'm gonna reinstall instead of fixing this shit09:56
escfor the 4th time tonight, geez, this ubuntu keeps getting wors thank god i don't use it myself anymore09:56
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marcicitoi need some help12:01
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:02
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marcicitoi want to create a folder who can be readed and written by me and my brother, but we have different sessions12:04
marcicitoa shared folder12:04
marcicitoanybody knows how to create a shared, writeable folder?12:06
maxamillionmarcicito: create the folder and then open a terminal and do "chmod 777 folderName/" where folderName is the name you call the folder you create (you might want to make it at /home/ or something)12:07
maxamillionmarcicito: be patient12:07
marcicitoim at /home... but i can't even create a folder there. there are only the user's folders12:09
maxamillionmarcicito: open a terminal and do "sudo mkdir /home/folderName" (it will ask for your password)12:09
marcicito:) let's see12:10
maxamillionmarcicito: and then do "sudo chmod 777 /home/folderName"12:10
maxamillionmarcicito: and all should be well12:10
marcicitoyeap...but what's the difference between the terminal and the desktop enviroment, which didn't let me create a folder?12:14
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marcicitoi am admin only in the bash?12:14
maxamillionmarcicito: until you add someone else, yes12:17
maxamillionmarcicito: the desktop environment only has your user's privilages and in the command line you can run "sudo" which gives you root privilages12:17
marcicitoi'ts been two days using linux and i've learned more than ten years using windows :P12:19
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maxamillionmarcicito: good systems tend to do that to you12:22

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