[01:04] <DaveMorri1> hey gang.  What age gorups is edubuntu aimed at?
[01:04] <LaserJock> pretty much everything
[01:04] <DaveMorri1> I'm jsut wondering if its suitable for my other 1/2's nursery
[01:05] <LaserJock> could be, what ages?
[01:05] <DaveMorri1> 6months (a tad young for computers) to pre-school so 5 I think
[01:05] <LaserJock> that
[01:06] <LaserJock> is fairly young
[01:06] <DaveMorri1> the 6 months or the 5?
[01:06] <LaserJock> well, both kinda
[01:06] <LaserJock> I've heard of kids as young as 18 months on Edubuntu
[01:07] <LaserJock> but I'm not sure how much they get out of it
[01:07] <DaveMorri1> they have a couple of machines which they play basic games like bob the builder on
[01:07] <DaveMorri1> well I'll download it and see what she thinks, as she's the one that workers there
[01:07] <LaserJock> yeah, just try it out
[01:08] <LaserJock> I'm guessing gcompris would be the app you'd be most interested
[01:08] <DaveMorri1> cheers
[05:52] <sbalneav> Evening all
[05:57] <LaserJock> hi sbalneav
[05:58] <sbalneav> Hey LaserJock
[05:59] <sbalneav> rhythmbox + jamendo support = awesome.
[05:59] <LaserJock> what's jamendo?
[05:59] <sbalneav> Dude.
[05:59] <sbalneav> DUDE!!!
[06:00] <LaserJock> what?
[06:00] <sbalneav> I just discovered it 2 days ago
[06:00] <sbalneav> it's awesome
[06:00] <LaserJock> so I've heard :)
[06:00] <sbalneav> an entire site full of CC licensed music
[06:00] <sbalneav> Do you use rhythmbox at all?
[06:00] <LaserJock> not really
[06:00] <LaserJock> but if I had something to listen to I might
[06:01] <sbalneav> ok
[06:01] <sbalneav> do this
[06:01] <LaserJock> I use rhythmbox when I listen to music
[06:01] <sbalneav> (gimme a sec to find the bits>
[06:01] <LaserJock> I just don't listen to a lot of music
[06:01] <sbalneav> RB -> edit -> plugins
[06:02] <sbalneav> check off "jamendo"
[06:02] <sbalneav> Now, it should show up on the channels area.
[06:02] <sbalneav> Browse something you like (me, I like folk, plus I'm kind of getting into house/trace/ambient)
[06:02] <sbalneav> Start playing.
[06:02] <sbalneav> and if you like it
[06:03] <LaserJock> hah, RB has a python console
[06:03] <sbalneav> CLICK ON THE "DOWNLOAD" BUTTON!
[06:03] <sbalneav> It's awsome
[06:03] <LaserJock> *everything* has a python console these days
[06:03] <sbalneav> Everything should have a python console :)
[06:04] <sbalneav> Plus, I've yet to win against gnuchess
[06:04] <sbalneav> even on easy,
[06:04] <sbalneav> ;(
[06:08] <LaserJock> wow, 1873 artists
[10:17] <LinuxProbie> can someone post the link for setting up an ATI radeon in ubuntu?
[10:17] <cbx33> Hi LinuxProbie
[10:19] <LinuxProbie> Hallo CBX33
[12:12] <cbx33> hi people.....I've just totally forgotten, where is the gnome splash stored?
[12:12] <cbx33> ogra?
[12:15] <highvoltage> cbx33: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[01:04] <cbx33> thanks highvoltage
[01:04] <cbx33> w00t
[01:04] <cbx33> stgedubuntu v1.0 is pretty much complete
[01:07] <highvoltage> what does the stg stand for?
[01:11] <ajmitch> hey cbx33, highvoltage
[01:12] <highvoltage> hey there ajmitch
[01:19] <cbx33> st george
[01:19] <cbx33> hi ajmitch
[01:20] <cbx33> if I was using reconstructor to remaster the edubuntu live cd......and I installed the flash plugins
[01:20] <cbx33> am I right in thinking I couldn't then copy and distribute the cd
[01:23] <highvoltage> cbx33: I think you may re-distribute the flash plugin, as long as you display the license before installing
[01:23] <highvoltage> cbx33: best is to check the flash plugins license
[01:25] <cbx33> ok
[01:25] <cbx33> so a firefox popup about the flash license?
[01:28] <highvoltage> I think it needs to be displaid /before/ the flash plugin is installed. I don't know how strict they are on that.
[01:28] <highvoltage> if you're running firefox and the plugin is already loaded, that might count as being installed
[01:29] <anestis> #edulinux
[01:31] <juliux> anestis, hust another irc channel without topic and traffic?
[01:31] <juliux> s/just/hust
[01:31] <cbx33> ok highvoltage
[01:43] <finalbeta> Starting for what age would Edubuntu be appropriate?
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> lower primary i suspect
[01:44] <jsgotangco> even preschool kids can use it with gcompris
[01:48] <ogra> highvoltage, you cant distribute flash without allowance from adobe ... the license you agree to in the package is a download license ... not one that covers distribution
[01:49] <rockprincess> finalbeta: my students at the moment are about 16-17 years old
[02:09] <highvoltage> ouch
[03:07] <bddebian> Heya
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[03:07] <bddebian> Hi Kamping_Kaiser
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> bddebian, hi, hows it going?\
[03:08] <bddebian> OK, thanks.  You?
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> pretty good, tired, but getting some work done for once :)
[03:11] <bddebian> Nice :-)
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh :) trying to build one mac desktop out of two - i'm trying to put a not-apple-certified pci-64 card in it though. *is hoping...* :)
[03:15] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> gmornin
[03:16] <cliebow_> Scottie!!!!!!!!!
[03:22] <sbalneav> Morning cliebow_
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi cliebow_
[03:24] <jsgotangco> scottie to hottie
[03:24] <jsgotangco> too
[03:37] <cliebow_> Gentlemen!
[03:41] <cliebow_> boy:i have a dumb one...in one of my fits a deleted bottom panel where minimized programs show..i did add a panel..but minimized xterms still disappear..will some one hiyt me with ugly stick then tell me how to get that function back?
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'window list'?
[03:48] <cliebow_> hmmm
[04:14] <cliebow_> Kamping_Kaiser, Ahhhh that is much better..Thanks!
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> cliebow_, np, sorry, i didnt think to be more verbose
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hum. ubuntu ppc iso 735mb?? *wonders if dd introduces overhead*
[04:16] <ogra> ppc isnt tested ... its not on the official list anymore
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> this is a dapper image.
[04:17] <ogra> so i dont monitor it
[04:17] <ogra> oh, ok
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> long as it fits on the cd when i need, i dont mind :)
[09:08] <LinuxProbie> g'mornin
[09:16] <LinuxProbie> anyone alive in here?
[09:16] <LaserJock> maybe
[09:16] <LaserJock> :-)
[09:17] <pips1> :-)
[09:19] <LinuxProbie> So I have two problems, one with my dell wireless wlan card and the other with the dell wireless 350 bluetooth module
[09:19] <LinuxProbie> anyone know about those?
[09:21] <pips1> LinuxProbie: what is the problem?
[09:22] <pips1> hey sbalneav
[09:22] <sbalneav> Hey
[09:22] <cbx33> HI sbalneav
[09:22] <sbalneav> how's it going?
[09:22] <cbx33> yeh good good
[09:22] <cbx33> you?
[09:22] <pips1> fine, finally managed to get some time for testing the beta
[09:23] <cbx33> nice
[09:23] <LinuxProbie> neither of them works, pips1
[09:30] <pips1> LinuxProbie: a quick google search shows me that you don't seem to be alone with this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2308248
[09:34] <pips1> LinuxProbie: on a quick glance, it doesn't look as if you problem was reported in malone bug tracker... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bluetooth
[09:39] <pips1> how do I filter bugs by package in Launchpad?
[09:53] <LaserJock> ogra: ping regarding edubuntu-docs
[10:01] <diyerxa> Hello
[10:09] <diyerxa> I am in charge of a project at my college in which I must install a distribution of Linux on many old PCs to be distributed to High Schools around my state.
[10:09] <LaserJock> cool
[10:10] <diyerxa> I chose Edubuntu as the distribution.  I have installed it on 23 computers now, and still have more to do.
[10:10] <LaserJock> neato
[10:10] <diyerxa> Should any of these schools run in to problems, where should I direct there problems?
[10:11] <diyerxa> *where should I direct their questions?
[10:11] <LaserJock> so you're planning on installing Edubuntu and then just letting them have at it?
[10:11] <diyerxa> That's what my boss asked me to do.
[10:11] <LaserJock> or are you going to some training?
[10:12] <diyerxa> My boss asked me to format the HDD, and install an opensource OS
[10:12] <LaserJock> hmm, is there anybody at these schools who's going to be in charge of them?
[10:12] <diyerxa> I'm just the techy, I don't really know much aside from what my job duties are.
[10:13] <LaserJock> :-)
[10:14] <diyerxa> I'm guessing I'm going to be getting a lot of phone calls as soon as we start distributing these computers. That's why I'm asking now. lol
[10:15] <LaserJock> well, there's this channel
[10:15] <LaserJock> and the mailing lists: edubuntu-devel and edubuntu-users
[10:16] <sbalneav> As well, Canonical offers paid support
[10:18] <diyerxa> Okay, I'll consider some of these options and try to work out a policy.  Thanks guys.
[10:19] <diyerxa> Have a good one.
[10:19] <LaserJock> cya
[10:20] <LinuxProbie> so I;m trying a different walkthrough on my wireless card, getting stuck when it asks me to do osmething, and this is the output:
[10:20] <LinuxProbie> rollerce@edubuntu:~$ sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/desktop/bcmwl5.sys
[10:20] <LinuxProbie> Cannot open input file /home/rollerce/desktop/bcmwl5.sys
[10:21] <bimberi> LinuxProbie: capital D in Desktop
[10:22] <LinuxProbie> You're kidding...
[10:22] <LinuxProbie> it's THAT picky o.o;
[10:22] <bimberi> yep, Linux/Unix is case sensitive
[10:23] <LinuxProbie> bleh
[10:25] <kigurai> Tab-completion is your friend :)
[10:27] <LaserJock> LinuxProbie: it's a feature not a problem ;-)
[10:27] <kigurai> LaserJock: :)
[11:02] <tidrion> hey
[11:02] <tidrion> anyone else tried edubuntu on an ibook?
[11:02] <tidrion> getting an error that ELF can't be read or something
[11:02] <tidrion> any ideas?
[11:03] <tidrion> okay...
[11:03] <tidrion> anyone here?
[11:03] <LaserJock> tidrion: what were you doing?
[11:03] <tidrion> trying to run the live disc
[11:03] <tidrion> cd
[11:03] <LaserJock> did it work at all?
[11:03] <tidrion> ni
[11:03] <tidrion> no
[11:04] <tidrion> just kept giving me that error
[11:05] <LaserJock> did you get the right disc?
[11:05] <LaserJock> i386 or powerpc
[11:22] <pips1> ugh, in gcompris, there is a button to start tuxpaint, and when you click it, the system just freezes :-/