[12:12] <tekteen> I have not used feisty. sorry
[12:13] <ToolBust> how can I watch this? mms://galileo.netpoint.com.br/tvrock1
[12:13] <hybrid> mine is registered
[12:13] <ToolBust> any one can help me?
[12:13] <AbortD> !mss
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <AbortD> worth a try :P
[12:13] <BluesKaj> ToolBust, just ask
[12:13] <hybrid> BluesKaj: he already did
[12:14] <BluesKaj> yeah, ...i'm slow
[12:14] <ToolBust> that's an online tv channel but I don't know how to watch it
[12:14] <BluesKaj> ToolBust, what the site URL ?
[12:14] <hybrid> ToolBust: get mplayer
[12:14] <ToolBust> mms://galileo.netpoint.com.br/tvrock1
[12:14] <AbortD> there are online tv channels?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> no that's not the site
[12:15] <LeeJunFan> vlc or kaffeine can play it as well.
[12:15] <genii> put the mms url into mplayer instead of the browser
[12:15] <hybrid> AbortD: ever heard of web2.0?
[12:15] <Iwonder|too> libmmsh: http status not 2xx: >500 Internal Server Error<
[12:15] <ToolBust> let me try
[12:15] <LjL> AbortD: there's plenty of them
[12:15] <AbortD> nope
[12:15] <AbortD> that is sweet
[12:15] <Iwonder|too> ToolBust: that is down
[12:15] <AbortD> is there a tnt online?
[12:15] <hybrid> AbortD: wow your missin out
[12:15] <AbortD> TNT rocks
[12:15] <hybrid> TNT?
[12:15] <hybrid> didnt they change their name?
[12:15] <AbortD> hell if i know
[12:15] <hybrid> no that was tnn nvm
[12:16] <AbortD> they have charmed on that channel
[12:16] <LeeJunFan> Yeah, it's Turner Internet Television now :)
[12:16] <AbortD> greatest channel ever
[12:16] <hybrid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0
[12:16] <AbortD> u gotta pay for it?
[12:16] <Iwonder|too> internet tv channels?
[12:16] <hybrid> i want a joost invite
[12:16] <AbortD> is there like 3 hour commercials?
[12:16] <hybrid> ABC and NBC but up there stuff
[12:16] <hybrid> if you buy it for $2 no commercials
[12:16] <hybrid> if not there are a few
[12:16] <MidMark> hi
[12:17] <Silveira_Neto> Should I download kubuntu-7.04-beta-alternate-i386.iso or the kubuntu-7.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso ??
[12:17] <AbortD> do they got tnt?
[12:17] <MidMark> is there some strange thing with cronjob less than every 5 minutes timer?
[12:17] <AbortD> is it a windows app?
[12:17] <hybrid> joost? now its cross platform
[12:17] <hybrid> about streaming tv
[12:17] <AbortD> joost?
[12:17] <hybrid> but its mac and windows atm, its still beta
[12:17] <AbortD> i thought we were talking about web 2.?
[12:18] <AbortD> 0
[12:18] <hybrid> lol
[12:18] <AbortD> hm
[12:18] <LjL> hybrid: interesting to note that the Web 2.0 wikipedia page contains neither the word "tv", nor "video", nor "stream", nor "station"... :P
[12:18] <hybrid> you had me goin for a minute
[12:18] <AbortD> haha
[12:18] <hybrid> LjL: iptv is a web2.0 thing
[12:18] <AbortD> i want tnt tell me what i get to see it
[12:18] <ToolBust> my mplayer doesn't open
[12:18] <neil__> I've got a terminal running a script I want to leave running
[12:18] <BluesKaj> mms is totem movie player not mplayer
[12:18] <LjL> hybrid: says who? what the heck does web 2.0 mean, even? one of the first words wikipedia uses is "perceived"
[12:18] <neil__> is there a way to fork it now?
[12:19] <neil__> Or is it too late
[12:19] <LjL> streaming video is streaming video, there's no new version of anything involved
[12:19] <ToolBust> I know but the mplayer does't opens
[12:19] <genii> neil__ Shoulda ran it with -d switch
[12:19] <AbortD> HOW DO I WATCH TNT?!
[12:19] <Iwonder|too> i got 500 server down error on that link
[12:19] <stra> !help
[12:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:19] <LeeJunFan> mms is multimedia stream, lots of players will play it as long as it's a video codec that's supported.
[12:19] <hybrid> LjL: dude
[12:20] <philfo> who do I contact to find out what my freenode pword is?  I could have sworn I got it right.
[12:20] <hybrid> streaming video has changed ALOT
[12:20] <LjL> AbortD: i suppose that, instead of asking like a dozen times and SHOUTING, you've tried things like "tnt streaming" on google?
[12:20] <hybrid> ie youtube
[12:20] <LeeJunFan> VLC can even create mms and serve it.
[12:20] <hybrid> then there is live streaming
[12:20] <AbortD> :P
[12:20] <stra> !automatix
[12:20] <AbortD> i didnt know it could stream!
[12:20] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:20] <BluesKaj> you tube uses Flash
[12:20] <fribuntu> N6REJ: I wanted it technical. In fact I want to encourage you to be even more techical :)
[12:20] <LjL> what technobabbling... bah, call it whatever you like. as long as it doesn't congest my uplink.
[12:22] <BluesKaj> LjL, if one wants to see all the video stuff on the web theses days all those browser codec plugins are necessary
[12:24] <ToolBust> Is there any other player for mms?
[12:25] <Iwonder|too> kafffeine treied ton play it
[12:25] <Iwonder|too> but returned 500 internal server error
[12:26] <ToolBust> yes i've tried
[12:26] <ToolBust> what else is left?
[12:26] <ToolBust> any other players?
[12:26] <Iwonder|too> 500 means the link is bad
[12:26] <BluesKaj> ToolBust, did you try totem ?
[12:26] <Iwonder|too> well down
[12:27] <ToolBust> but I can watch it on windows
[12:27] <ToolBust> windows media player
[12:27] <genii> I'm getting a 500 on that site too
[12:27] <LjL> BluesKaj: which is why i do without seeing it :)
[12:27] <ToolBust> BluesKaj: no I did not
[12:28] <ToolBust> then why does it work on windows?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> ToolBust, sudo apt-get install totem
[12:28] <N6REJ> stuipd m$ wanted to know why I wouldn't use their crappy accounting program.  So I told'm the truth.. they went HUH? it does that? oh wow, it does... OOOPS
[12:29] <Mena> mplayer is good media player :) and also more cool with Kmplyer :)
[12:29] <N6REJ> fribuntu: np, just got me on a soapbox for a minute LOL
[12:30] <enotee> when go to install firefox its no in adept what do i do
[12:30] <BluesKaj> hehe, totem player is broken on my pc :) ...sheesh
[12:30] <philfo> N6REJ: how to retrieve my pword?
[12:30] <ToolBust> mms://rr5.redeupx.net/160on/videos/ingames/outubro/04/ingames.wmv Try this one
[12:30] <N6REJ> philfo: I don't know let me look
[12:30] <Mena> enotee, ar e you sure
[12:30] <philfo> thx
[12:30] <Mena> enotee, try to search it on adept
[12:31] <fribuntu> N6REJ: If I may ask a totally unrelated sound question
[12:31] <enotee> ya has some lang support but not the browser itself
[12:31] <N6REJ> fribuntu: sure
[12:31] <fribuntu> N6REJ: I am trying to play Neverwinter Nights under my Kubuntu Linux. It runs just find and looks really shiny. However, I do have some sound issues I cannot explain.
[12:31] <Mena> enotee, how i dont know why but its there ny defualt
[12:31] <Mena> by*
[12:32] <N6REJ> philfo: try "drop" or "info" instead of identify
[12:32] <Camaxtli> philfo: You can't retrieve passwords, they're stored by a hashing scheme iirc.
[12:32] <fribuntu> N6REJ: Whenever I enter certain areas, I get a horrible sort of "white noise" sound for a few seconds.
[12:32] <Camaxtli> Or is this IRC?
[12:32] <fribuntu> N6REJ: Doing the same with the windows version results in crystal clear sound.
[12:32] <enotee> thats what i thought but its not
[12:32] <fribuntu> N6REJ: Any idea where to look for the cause of that? NwN is using SDL libs.
[12:32] <N6REJ> fribuntu: NN as I recall is a directX intensive program.  I would question wether there needs to be special settings for 3d for *nix
[12:32] <Mena> !firefox
[12:32] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:33] <fribuntu> N6REJ: Hmm, graphics is OpenGL, do you mean 3D sound?
[12:33] <philfo> ok, then how to change the pword?
[12:33] <N6REJ> Mena: its not the deafult in kubuntu though
[12:33] <Mena> yes i know
[12:33] <N6REJ> fribuntu: I wonder if open is cause that.
[12:33] <Mena> N6REJ, yes i know but its there by defualt
[12:33] <fribuntu> N6REJ: I have been experimenting with  various sound settings (number of voices, etc.) but no success.
[12:34] <Kr4t05> Okay, I have a question. Many moons ago, I attempted to install K3d from the repos. Sadly, the package was broken. Now, that package is trapped in apt-limbo and attempts to install everytime I use apt-get. I want to stop this behavior and remove that package from apt's to-do list.
[12:34] <Camaxtli> philfo: Go to recovery mode and login as root, then use "passwd <username>" to set a new password
[12:34] <N6REJ> Mena: no not on a clean kubuntu install
[12:34] <fribuntu> N6REJ: I did not understand your last remark ... can you rephrase please?
[12:34] <Mena> yes
[12:34] <enotee> i just installed the 64 bit version of 6.10 and is not there
[12:34] <philfo> I'm talking about in freenode just to enable me to use PM
[12:34] <N6REJ> philfo: I'm not really unless you drop or perhaps register again.
[12:34] <N6REJ> hang on one phil
[12:34] <Mena> enotee, try this again plz in terminal apt-cache search firefox
[12:35] <N6REJ> fribuntu: frame rate?
[12:35] <N6REJ> fribuntu: remember that opengl uses software I believe to handle the graphics more then hardware where directX is just the opposite.
[12:36] <fribuntu> N6REJ: Hmm, I have no idea how to read the framerate. I am talking about audio noise, not graphics. Just in case we are talking of different things.
[12:36] <N6REJ> fribuntu: somewhere there is a translator transalting the sound and video from directx type stuff to *nix
[12:36] <N6REJ> fribuntu: they can interelate.  If one is hogging more resources then the other
[12:36] <N6REJ> fribuntu: like two kids fighting over the same ball
[12:36] <fribuntu> fribuntu: As I said, the graphics is OpenGL, not direct3D as far as I know. That way it was easier to port to MAC and Linux.
[12:36] <Mena> enotee, maybe bec its 64 version i dont know   but if it was try to download it and install it manually from the site
[12:37] <N6REJ> fribuntu: I don't really know, perhaps there's a nwn channel?
[12:37] <philfo> ok, now to re-register
[12:37] <N6REJ> philfo: good job
[12:37] <fribuntu> fribuntu: Maybe a newer version of libsdl could help. I am using some ancient version that comes with the game.
[12:37] <enotee> k thanks
[12:37] <N6REJ> fribuntu: that VERY well could do it.  Drivers always make a big diff.
[12:37] <philfo> what's the command line again?
[12:38] <Kr4t05> I love how everyone else get's a prompt answer, and I'm left waiting... Everytime..
[12:38] <N6REJ> philfo: /msg nicserv register yourpw
[12:38] <Mena> ok if you come again on another time maybe some one would help more to see if you cant add it to the adept manager :)
[12:38] <Mena> can*
[12:38] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: I can only type so fast.
[12:38] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: whats the prob?
[12:38] <enotee> i just downloaded it , its in .gz file how do i install
[12:38] <Kr4t05> N6REJ: Okay, I have a question. Many moons ago, I attempted to install K3d from the repos. Sadly, the package was broken. Now, that package is trapped in apt-limbo and attempts to install everytime I use apt-get. I want to stop this behavior and remove that package from apt's to-do list.
[12:38] <genii> Camaxtli: He forets his irc password
[12:39] <fribuntu> N6REJ: If I only knew where ubuntu stores it's libsdl and how to link it to the game's libs.
[12:39] <Mena> enotee, follow the instruction on the site  but i think its often by extracting it as i guess
[12:39] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: sudo apt-get --purge remove k3d && sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:39] <Camaxtli> genii: That sucks :p
[12:39] <enotee> k thanks i'll try
[12:39] <Mena> enotee, ok
[12:40] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: make that --purge sorry
[12:40] <Mena> enotee, hey opera also is a good browser :)
[12:40] <Camaxtli> Opera <3
[12:40] <Kr4t05> N6REJ: Wait... what?
[12:40] <philfo> unknown command.  !GD!  sorry.  I'm hungry.  have a massive headache.  and need to learn this language
[12:41] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: type what I put in the window
[12:41] <N6REJ> philfo: wanna try another day?
[12:41] <philfo> sure.
[12:41] <Kr4t05> N6REJ: Doesn't work.
[12:41] <N6REJ> ok, phil, np
[12:42] <neil__> Is there a way in ubuntu to restart x without it logging you out and closing everyinth?
[12:42] <neil__> I'm sure I can normally do that...
[12:42] <Kr4t05> N6REJ: http://pastebin.ca/411292
[12:42] <philfo> N6REJ: I did the seamless GIMPshop install using this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239277
[12:42] <kristjan_> neil__: it will destroy all your current work that hasn't saved
[12:42] <N6REJ> philfo: ty I'll try that
[12:43] <philfo> ok.  frustrated is leaving the building to go take some photos with film.
[12:43] <kristjan_> neil__: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:44] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: ewww thats a nasty... its like it lost some files.   did you remove any directorys?
[12:44] <Kr4t05> N6REJ: Nada
[12:45] <fribuntu> N6REJ: Just to give some result: changing the SDL libs made things worse ... so the problem is related. Darn.
[12:45] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: ok, this is going to sound stupid, but try this... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install k3b && sudo apt-get --purge remove k3b && sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:45] <N6REJ> fribuntu: at least you narrowed it down :D
[12:46] <N6REJ> fribuntu: how about the sound card driver itself?
[12:46] <N6REJ> fribuntu: lower the quality of the sound?
[12:46] <N6REJ> brb
[12:46] <c1|freaky> i love kubuntu :D
[12:47] <fribuntu> N6REJ: Hmm, maybe some kernel tweaks to the driver ...
[12:47] <Kr4t05> N6REJ: Did not work.
[12:47] <soulrider> im sad, one of my HDs is almost dead... il probably lose a 120gb drive with all of the data inside...
[12:47] <Kr4t05> Someone needs to file a bug-report against this package... >>
[12:47] <fribuntu> N6REJ: I'll have to look up boot options.
[12:48] <fribuntu> ck804 on board sound ...
[12:48] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: ok, wait, let me think.
[12:48] <N6REJ> there's an ignore dependencies option
[12:49] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: please type sudo apt-get autoclean and try again
[12:50] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: after autoclean please do sudo apt-get check
[12:50] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: let me know if it says anything useful
[12:51] <Kr4t05> N6REJ: Nothing.
[12:51] <Kr4t05> N6REJ: It worked, but didn't print anything useful.
[12:51] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: ok sudo dpkg --remove k3b
[12:51] <Kr4t05> Same error.
[12:52] <N6REJ> sudo apt-get --list-cleanup
[12:53] <Kr4t05> Not avaiable
[12:55] <N6REJ> Kr4t05: what I'm about to tell you to do please do at your own risk.  It MIGHT hose things.  sudo apt-get --purge --force=yes remove k3b
[12:57] <Kr4t05> N6REJ: E: Command line option --force=yes is not understood
[12:57] <N6REJ> man apt-get
[12:57] <N6REJ> emergency phone call, brb
[12:59] <Mena> kr4t05, what is you problem
[12:59] <Kr4t05> Mena: I have a package that I attempted to install frozen in apt.
[01:00] <Kr4t05> It tries to install everytime I use apt-get, and errors out, everytim.
[01:00] <Mena> did you try this befor apt-get  -f install
[01:00] <Mena> apt-get -f install
[01:00] <Kr4t05> Mena: That was the first thing I tried. :/
[01:00] <Mena> with sudo
[01:00] <Mena> hmm ok
[01:00] <Kr4t05> I'm going to try something else, here.
[01:00] <angasule> if I try to update, python-imaging would break, what's with that?
[01:00] <Mena> ok
[01:01] <BluesKaj> anyone a version of totem movie player that actually works ?
[01:02] <Contrast> What's up, everyone?
[01:03] <Mena> what is good a bout totem ??
[01:04] <Contrast> Are there any Feisty users here whose screensaver just turns the screen black when it's supposed to start? (I already asked over at the +1 channel and didn't really get anywhere.)
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> Not much Contrast...hoping to get fiesty tomorrow
[01:04] <BluesKaj> Mena , I haven't found anything good about it except that some sites require it for playing the video on it
[01:04] <Mena> mplayer play all as i guess
[01:04] <Contrast> BluesKaj: Which browser are you using?
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> Contrast: hmm... did you check the SS settings in the control panel?
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> Edgy did that when I first installed
[01:05] <Contrast> nosrednaekim: Yeah. And I turned off power saving.
[01:05] <BluesKaj> Contrast, that sounds like the power settings have to be admin mode set
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> Contrast: also/.. ti might be becuase its a 3d ss and you don't have 3d accel
[01:05] <Contrast> What's weird is when I click "Test" the screensaver works. It's just that it doesn't work as an actual screensaver.
[01:05] <wendy> i need help in spanish
[01:06] <BluesKaj> Contrast, FF browser
[01:06] <Contrast> nosrednaekim: Nope, it even does it with Slideshow.
[01:06] <Camaxtli> Wendy: #ubuntu-es
[01:06] <BluesKaj> !es
[01:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> oh...
[01:06] <Contrast> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[01:06] <BluesKaj> already have it , Contrast
[01:07] <Contrast> BluesKaj: What sites are you having problems with?
[01:07] <Contrast> BluesKaj: You already have flash-plugin, I assume?
[01:08] <BluesKaj> it's site that requires totem... someone here was having probs with...hang on, Contrast
[01:09] <jamesonq> are the default ubuntu repositories very slow?
[01:09] <Mena> i dont think so
[01:09] <jamesonq> i just installed ubuntu, and apt-get seems to be downloading at a speed of about 300 bytes/sec
[01:09] <SuperTeece> hi all
[01:10] <Contrast> Hi SuperTeece
[01:10] <Mena> maybe itd bec of the strees of the server
[01:10] <Mena> Hi
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> jamesonq: I have dial up... so I never notice...:-P
[01:10] <Contrast> jamesonq: I'm getting 100+ k/s. :-\
[01:10] <BluesKaj> Contrast, copy and paste this into FF addressbar and see what happens :  mms://galileo.netpoint.com.br/tvrock1
[01:11] <xst> I use knetworkmanager to manage my wireless connections. But for some reason it does not remember the WPA passwords I enter, forcing me to re-enter them every time I reboot. Quite annoying. How can I make it remember the passwords?
[01:11] <SuperTeece> I just installed the KDE environment into my feisty install, I was wondering if there is something available that is similar to the network monitor icon for KDE like what come standard in the gnome based ubuntu?
[01:11] <Contrast> BluesKaj: No associated protocol.
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> SuperTeece: did you get "kubuntu-desktop"
[01:12] <BluesKaj> yeah i have them all , but totem doen't work...however gxine works for me in place of the mplayer FF plugin since it's also broken on my pc
[01:12] <jamesonq_> so yeah using beryl repos goes around 200kb/sec on apt-get
[01:12] <SuperTeece> no, just KDEbase for what I was told would be easier switching
[01:12] <jamesonq_> but the default ubuntu repos are slow slow slow
[01:12] <SuperTeece> I want to use both for now, still new and all
[01:13] <jamesonq_> can someone post their /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <jamesonq_> just use http://www.rafb.net/paste
[01:13] <Mena> jamesonq, you should creat your source lst with your country
[01:14] <Mena> jamesonq, to get more speedy downloading
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> SuperTeece: its easier to just use kubuntu-desktop
[01:14] <jamesonq_> im using the california repos and i'm in louisiana
[01:14] <jamesonq_> in theory it's close
[01:14] <Mena> hmm ok
[01:14] <SuperTeece> can I still choose gnome or kde at the log in screen?
[01:14] <jamesonq_> i think it's because its the default repos
[01:14] <Mena> yes
[01:14] <jamesonq_> so everyone uses it
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> SuperTeece: yes
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> I did it myself...
[01:15] <Mena> jamesonq, maybe
[01:15] <SuperTeece> so should I remove the kdebase and then get kde-desktop? or just go straight to it?
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> just go straight to kubuntu desktop...it'll keep kdebase... but get a whole bunch of new packages
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> kdebase is part of the kubunu-desktop meta package
[01:16] <SuperTeece> ok, thanks!
[01:16] <SuperTeece> quit
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> oh yeah.... and make sure you select GDM when it gives you the option between that and KDM
[01:20] <bxnp> nosrednaekim: is this a ubuntu or a kubuntu channel
[01:20] <tominglis> hi, does anyone know how to separately open the options menu for monitor power saving in kubuntu?
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu
[01:21] <tominglis> my monitory and display options thingy doesne work
[01:21] <tominglis> but i need to change the power settings
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> try opening "kcontrol" and getting to it from there
[01:21] <Contrast> tominglis: Have you tried running it from KControl?
[01:21] <tominglis> no that doesn't work either
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> ^^^great mids think alike...
[01:21] <Contrast> Hehe
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> *minds
[01:21] <seth_> anyone here use superkaramba?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> seth_: used to
[01:22] <zen> When I turn on nvidia, all my fonts become massive everywhere except Gnome (they're large in GDM as well as KDE).  How do I set them back to a normal size?
[01:22] <tominglis> i think there is a problem with nvidia-glx and the menu with sli
[01:22] <tominglis> but it must be poss to open this specific option page somehow?
[01:22] <seth_> i have a problem with superkaramba where my installed themes dont show up
[01:22] <tominglis> or there must be a config file somewhere that it controls?
[01:23] <seth_> however when i go to reinstall them it says they are installed so i cant install them again
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> seth_: to you initialize them?
[01:23] <Contrast> tominglis: It's possible, but I'm not sure what the specific option is.
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> *did you
[01:23] <seth_> i tried uninstalling/reinstallling superkaramba but no luck
[01:23] <Contrast> kcmshell something.
[01:23] <seth_> i had them initialized
[01:23] <seth_> then i killed superkaramba cuz i had started it from the terminal
[01:23] <seth_> and it didnt close
[01:23] <seth_> so i had to kill it in the process manager
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> oh....
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> and now it doesn't work?
[01:24] <seth_> it works
[01:24] <seth_> i can install new themes
[01:24] <Mena> tominglis, go there to see your themes home/$user$/.superkaramba
[01:24] <seth_> but everytime i close it they arnt in the section of installed themes
[01:24] <seth_> when i re open it
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> oh...
[01:25] <seth_> its really weird
[01:25] <seth_> so i tried uninstalling it
[01:25] <seth_> i dont have any experience with it i might just be doing something dumb
[01:25] <tominglis> Mena: themes?
[01:25] <Mena> tominglis, if the superkaramba themes dont start when you start your kubuntu link them to /home/$user$/.kde/autostart
[01:25] <seth_> but there is that initial window with the themes that are installed and all i get is get new stuff and open local theme
[01:25] <Contrast> tominglis: Run kcmshell --list
[01:25] <tominglis> Mena: i think you are confusing me with someone else!?
[01:25] <Mena> tominglis, yes you can download them from here kde-look.org
[01:25] <seth_> then when i go to get new stuff it shows that i have some themes installed
[01:26] <Contrast> tominglis: The one you're looking for is in there somewhere.
[01:26] <tominglis> Contrast: thanks loads
[01:26] <Mena> ohh sorry
[01:26] <tominglis> Contrast: i shall look
[01:26] <Contrast> tominglis: NP. Good luck.
[01:26] <tominglis> Mena: do you want seth_?
[01:26] <Mena> i thought you are seth_ heheeh
[01:26] <Mena> sorry
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> seth_: do a "complete removal"
[01:26] <Mena> :D
[01:26] <tominglis> Mena: easy mistake to make
[01:26] <seth_> sorry guys didnt mean to make confusion
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> which I believe erases config files
[01:26] <jamesonq_> ive mounted an ext3 fs on my hard drive from a previous linux install.. but for some reason i dont have read access to it.. how do i remedy this
[01:26] <tominglis> Mena: our names are pretty similar :)
[01:27] <Mena> heheheheeh :)
[01:27] <seth_> how do i do a complete removal?
[01:27] <Contrast> Are power management settings for the monitor kept in xorg.conf?
[01:27] <tominglis> no, don't think so
[01:27] <seth_> nosrednaekim: sorry im not fermiliar with that
[01:27] <BluesKaj> seth, use synaptic , complete removal option
[01:28] <seth_> cool thanks guys ill give it a try
[01:29] <seth_> sorry guys i use adept (kubuntu) so im not sure where the option is on this
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> its in adept I beleive, as an option next to uninstall
[01:29] <Contrast> seth_: Click the package you want to completely remove and hit Shift+Delete
[01:29] <Contrast> seth_: Or just run sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[01:29] <Mena> seth_, do this terminal sudo apt-get remove superkaramba
[01:30] <Contrast> remove without --purge doen't do a complete removal though, does it?
[01:30] <tominglis> Contrast: that just seems to be a list of the same kind of things that you can get through kcontrol or systemsettings, i think i shall have to find the config file
[01:30] <Mena> Contrast, maybe i didnt try it befor
[01:31] <seth_> so should i have use purge or not?
[01:31] <seth_> cuz i did :P
[01:31] <Mena> Contrast, but he wont to remove it he can just delet the folder .superkaramba if it was still exist in the homefolder
[01:31] <Mena> sorry after removing it
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> well if it didn't give you an error.....:-P
[01:31] <Contrast> tominglis: My fault. Must have misunderstood what you were asking.
[01:32] <Contrast> --purge gets rid of stuff not in ~
[01:32] <Mena> ok
[01:32] <Contrast> Actually, I'm pretty sure --purge doesn't touch stuff in ~, usually at least, from my experience.
[01:33] <Mena> ok
[01:33] <seth_> welp it didnt work all the same :P
[01:33] <tominglis> Contrast: it isne possible to access the monitor and display panel, through systemsettings, kcontrol, or kcmshell - but i need to change the power settings from within it, which tells the os how long to wait before turning off the screen
[01:34] <Contrast> tominglis: Got it. Sorry, I'm not sure where that setting is kept.
[01:35] <seth_> yeah sorry guys thats not functioning guess ill try somethign eles later thanks anyway guys
[01:35] <Contrast> It'd be great if it were standard practice to make GUI's that edit config. files tell you what file their editing when you click Apply.
[01:35] <Mena> seth_, in any way for all there is a folder called .superkramaba in your home folder where themes exist if you download it with the superkaramba if you want to add a new maunally add its there and if didnt start with system start link it to the auto start folder :) ...thats all
[01:36] <neil__> ?? format
[01:36] <neil__> hmmm
[01:36] <neil__> Can someone remind me how to get stuff like .wmv working in linux? :D
[01:36] <neil__> I forget the bot command :D thanks
[01:36] <tominglis> Contrast: it could be that it edits xorg.conf, but the option isn't currently in there, because i edited it manually and with nvidia-xconfig?
[01:36] <Contrast> nell, which release of Ubuntu are you using? Edgy, Dapper, Feisty?
[01:37] <neil__> Edgy :)
[01:37] <Contrast> neil__: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:37] <Contrast> neil__: I'm pretty sure that's all you need. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[01:38] <neil__> thanks :)
[01:38] <Contrast> NP
[01:38] <tominglis> Section "Monitor"
[01:38] <tominglis>     Identifier     "Clevo 20 Inch 1600 x 1080 Widescreen LCD"
[01:38] <tominglis>     Option         "DPMS"
[01:38] <tominglis> is what it says at the moment
[01:38] <Contrast> tominglis: Not sure. Sorry. :-\
[01:39] <soulrider> please, dont paste all those lines here, use a pastebin
[01:39] <soulrider> !paste
[01:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:40] <Contrast> I really don't think 3 lines warrants crying over a pastebin, but that's just me. :-D
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> I think 4 should be the limit...;)
[01:40] <fiyawerx> hey guys, is there a ubuntu equivalent that will let you send 'net send' like messages to a windows machine?
[01:41] <Contrast> Seems sensible.
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> you want to send messages to a windows machine?
[01:42] <fiyawerx> yep
[01:43] <N0n3CZ> hi all
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> hello
[01:44] <N0n3CZ> My first time in KDE
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> like it?
[01:45] <N0n3CZ> Only try it....go on Live version. But looks like very close
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> to what?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> Windows?
[01:47] <N0n3CZ> Yup.
[01:47] <fiyawerx> heh, thats the exact reason some of my linux newbie friends wont use kde, 'looks too much like windows'
[01:47] <Mena> Gnome is good
[01:47] <N0n3CZ> I have Ubuntu/Gnome several times
[01:47] <soulrider> LOL
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> haha
[01:47] <Mena> but the cool think a bout kde you can theme as you wont
[01:47] <soulrider> i really havnt used gnome
[01:47] <Contrast> Am I the only one that thinks the similarities between KDE and Windows are greatly overstated?
[01:47] <soulrider> i allways used KDE
[01:47] <Mena> Gnome not much as i guess
[01:48] <soulrider> Contrast: youre not the onliy one
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> yeah I agree Contrast
[01:48] <soulrider> they are similar, but up to a point
[01:48] <Contrast> I used Gnome for about a month when I first started using Linux, tried out KDE and was hooked.
[01:48] <soulrider> i think that probably thr only thing they got in common is just the panel at the bottom :P
[01:48] <fiyawerx> yeah i prefer kde
[01:48] <Mena> at the first i said that to me at first ut after theming it i changed my mind  little
[01:49] <Contrast> I have my panel at the top. :-D
[01:49] <Mena> you can make your kde look like Gnome ubuntu if you wont heheh :)
[01:49] <N0n3CZ> :] 
[01:49] <soulrider> Contrast: i have 2 panels
[01:49] <BluesKaj> fiyawerx, Mena, it's not so much what kde looks like ... perhaps some what like windows but in terms of usage and familiarity that's what makes it easier to use ... let the windows haters suffer with Gnome if they want :)
[01:50] <Contrast> soulrider: Same here. Main at the top, launchers at the bottom.
[01:50] <eilker> !ddos
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ddos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <soulrider> i ahve application list at the bottom, kmenu, shortcuts, tray and clock on the top one
[01:50] <Mena> Blueskaj, ohhh yes :)
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> I have taskbar on the top, shortcuts on the bottom...
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> but both fold away...
[01:51] <BluesKaj> Gnome was just toooo different for me
[01:51] <fiyawerx> BluesKaj: agreed
[01:51] <soulrider> i have yet to try GNOME and XFCE
[01:51] <eilker> will configuring iptables make us to be prevented from ddos attacks ? or any other way =
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> I am hungry for vertical space on this lptop
[01:51] <Contrast> For me, it's not that Gnome was too different, it's that it wasn't different enough.
[01:51] <BluesKaj> <--- old windows guy ,not just an old guy
[01:52] <soulrider> lol BluesKaj
[01:52] <Contrast> I like all the extra options KDE gives you. Gnome seems like it assumes you can't handle all the extra options, a la the one-size-fits-all OS.
[01:52] <soulrider> damn, i wish i hadnt been lazy and used linux earlier
[01:52] <Contrast> But I digress. These types of discussions usually go nowhere fast.
[01:52] <soulrider> i tried suse 9.1 and mandrake 10 but i was too lazy to learn and they only lasted like 1 day each on my PC
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> haha
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> true
[01:53] <BluesKaj> old guys like me are cheap; hence linux , since 99.9% of the stuff is free , just takes some time... which i have lots of , I hope :)
[01:54] <soulrider> BluesKaj: i allways used win,  but never payed for anything, not even win itself :P
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> Old guys  have morals...
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[01:54] <soulrider> lol
[01:54] <Mena> This is the cool thing every thing is freeeeeeeee :)
[01:54] <soulrider> yeah :)
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> it one of those things that dies with the tape drive
[01:54] <Mena> except some app like cedega
[01:54] <N0n3CZ> Guys....I have problem....It is important compose music and do 3D graphic and animation for me. I know, these things inst very close to Linux. But....some help? Or alternatives?
[01:54] <soulrider> i cant see myself paying $30 for a program to fix my broken registry :P
[01:55] <BluesKaj> hehe, at least yer honest , soulrider ...frankly I was the same after I got clued into torrents etc
[01:55] <soulrider> or $30 for a program to delete my browsing history :P
[01:55] <soulrider> BluesKaj: where i live no one pays for anything because we simply cant afford it :P
[01:55] <BluesKaj> where is that soulrider ?
[01:56] <Contrast> N0n3CZ: Have you looked through Adept Installer or Adept Manager?
[01:56] <soulrider> or people seem to not see why programs are as expensive as they are
[01:56] <soulrider> Uruguay
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> that word says it all...... no offense..
[01:56] <soulrider> if you tell someone to pay $400 for windows they will stab you lol
[01:56] <BluesKaj> ok, soulrider ...understood
[01:56] <N0n3CZ> Boht
[01:56] <soulrider> i mean
[01:56] <BluesKaj> LOL
[01:56] <soulrider> they are selling pentium 2 PCs
[01:56] <Mena> N0n3CZ, do you need a 3d app
[01:56] <soulrider> like 300 mhz ones :P
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> I have one of those...... how much?
[01:56] <soulrider> N0n3CZ: how about blender ?
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[01:57] <soulrider> like $150
[01:57] <soulrider> but i mean
[01:57] <Contrast> soulrider: Beat me to it. :-D
[01:57] <soulrider> what can you install there?!
[01:57] <soulrider> windows 95?!
[01:57] <tominglis> Contrast: i think that this is controlled by displayconfigrc, in /.kde/share/config
[01:57] <soulrider> what can you do there?!
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> nah...linux works grea...
[01:57] <Mena> N0n3CZ,  blender is for 3D animations and this stuff as i guess
[01:57] <N0n3CZ> Mena : yes, I need it. I work in 3DsMAX and music in Reason, FruityLoops and WaveLab
[01:57] <tominglis> Contrast: there seem to be a lot of bugs with DPMS
[01:57] <Contrast> N0n3CZ: For music, LMMS, Audacity, many others.
[01:57] <BluesKaj> <--- retired , cheap and hates to pay for stuff that should be free but isn't cuz bill gates runs a greedy empire that other greedy leeches are exploiting
[01:57] <soulrider> nosrednaekim: tell someone here to sue linux.... >.<
[01:57] <tominglis> Contrast: and saving the settings etc
[01:58] <tominglis> Contrast: will edit this manually and see what happens - thanks for your help!
[01:58] <soulrider> BluesKaj: to tell you the truth, id ont know why people hate bill so much :P
[01:58] <Contrast> tominglis: DPMS? I've seen the acronym, but can't remember what it is?
[01:58] <BQ-Assimilating> Hi people, I'm encountering an odd problem. What would keep a root session of konq from opening a term in a dir when using the f4 button? konsole --workdir %f servicemenu doesn't work for root
[01:58] <soulrider> lets face it
[01:58] <soulrider> hes a smart man :P
[01:58] <N0n3CZ> ok thanks.....will try it
[01:58] <soulrider> i do admitre him
[01:58] <soulrider> he amde billions selling crap!
[01:58] <soulrider> hes da man! :P
[01:58] <tominglis> Contrast: it is the protocol used to control the monitor's status, i think
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> Dynaminc power management system I think
[01:58] <BQ-Assimilating> Ahy Bill Gates lol
[01:59] <BluesKaj> soulrider , his cut throat marketing techniques
[01:59] <tominglis> tominglis: or by which it's power status is controlled
[01:59] <Contrast> tominglis: Oh ok.
[01:59] <BQ-Assimilating> anyone know why konsole --workdir %f servicemenu doesn't work for root?
[01:59] <soulrider> BluesKaj: all companies have such techniques
[01:59] <BluesKaj> TVTime ...BBL
[02:00] <soulrider> me too
[02:00] <soulrider> Lost is on :P
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> haha
[02:00] <BQ-Assimilating> lol
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> I think lost is on here on wednesday
[02:00] <soulrider> season 3 just started here
[02:00] <soulrider> like 4 eps ago or something
[02:00] <Contrast> Well, I'm heading out. Good night, everyone.
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> bye
[02:00] <soulrider> bye
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... we're about 6 episodes into it
[02:02] <N0n3CZ> Is anybody from Czech?
[02:07] <soulrider> !cz
[02:07] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[02:11] <philfo> new problem.
[02:12] <Mena> ask
[02:12] <patrick_> what is this?
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> this is the Kubuntu help chat
[02:13] <patrick_> wow, i couldve use this last night
[02:14] <patrick_> im a linux noob
[02:17] <zorglu_> q. currently to setup the mimetype, i use the kcontrol, is there some 'nicer' gui for it ?
[02:17] <genii> heh according to channel stats intelikey gives a lot of monologues here
[02:19] <LeeJunFan> genii: where you see the channel stats?
[02:19] <philfo> it's a Gnome problem, with evolution mail
[02:19] <philfo> I asked over in ubuntu, am awaiting an answer
[02:19] <genii> LeeJunFan http://www.seerofsouls.com/channelstats/kubuntu.html
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> philfo: nobody here uses evolution...we use Kmail..
[02:20] <philfo> right.
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> wow, I'm only #35, Would have thought I was in the top 20 at least :)
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> you should too...;)
[02:21] <philfo> I'm using Kubuntu desktop installed over ubuntu & can't get rid of evolution
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> just kidding..,
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> Guess I better paste the contents of packages list to the channel :)
[02:21] <philfo> I've had a few problems with it
[02:22] <scotty> Is there any reasonably simple way to get Firefox 3 alpha on Kubuntu?
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> philfo: what happens when you try to get rid of it?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> philfo: you just want to get rid of evolution?
[02:22] <philfo> can't delete it because there are too many dependent processes.
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> scotty: get the prcompiled mizzilla binary
[02:22] <philfo> I can't make Kmail my default either.
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> *precompiled mozilla
[02:23] <scotty> nosrednaekim: where?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> phlifo: are you using Gnome or KDE?
[02:23] <philfo> kdm
[02:23] <philfo> well kde if you'd call it that
[02:24] <philfo> kubuntu desktop
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> philfo: gnome depends on it, you can get rid of gnome, leave evolution there or sudo dpkg -r --force-depends evolution
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> scotty: hmmm good question
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> philfo: but when you install something later it'll probably complain that you have unmet deps and try to install it again.
[02:25] <skioski> can any1 help a noob here, i just installed for the first time and need some advice
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> where are you having trouble with it not being default?
[02:25] <N0n3CZ> How can I import ICQ-friend list to Kopete?
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> skioski: thats what we are here for
[02:25] <skioski> cool
[02:25] <scotty> nosrednaekim: found it ... thanks
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> just curious... where?
[02:26] <scotty> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
[02:26] <philfo> I set it as my default but it doesn't appear anywhere.  can't open it
[02:26] <skioski> ok so i installed kubuntu, i think i need to install my nvidia driver?
[02:27] <neil__> If i start SABnzbd
[02:27] <neil__> then logout
[02:27] <neil__> will it stay running?
[02:27] <philfo> right now I'm just wondering what the heck is with my processor.  it's way too slow.
[02:27] <neil__> its just a standard daemon
[02:27] <philfo> I mean SLOW
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> skioski: ok..
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> philfo: run "top"
[02:27] <takeda> tes
[02:27] <philfo> top?
[02:28] <skioski> is there a webpage or something that could help me do it
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> philfo: it's probably speedstepping or powernow, it won't rev up to full speed until you actually put a workload on it.
[02:28] <philfo> linux noob
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> run "top" in a konsole
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> philfo: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null and give it a sec, see if it steps up the speed.
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> philfo: ctrl-c to stop it.
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> it'll tell you the process using all the CPU
[02:29] <philfo> I guarantee I can crash this if I push it.
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> run top first pls
[02:29] <neil__> anyone know how to leave a command line app running when you logoff
[02:29] <skioski> can any1 point me in the right direction to install nvidia driver
[02:29] <genii> neil__: <command> -d
[02:30] <neil__> thanks :)
[02:30] <genii> (detach from terminal)
[02:30] <neil__> how would you terminate it after doing that, without kill?
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> philfo: I doubt it, unless you have faulty hardware pushing your CPU load isn't going to crash linux.
[02:30] <neil__> reattach somehow im guessing..
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> skioski: in Adept
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> look for nvidia-glx
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> philfo: I've had many servers run way over a year w/o ever being rebooted.
[02:30] <genii> neil__: I just use kill on em when I start them that way
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia | skioski
[02:30] <ubotu> skioski: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <philfo> ok, after top what do I do with this data?
[02:31] <neil__> ok :) thx
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> philfo: what was the top process on that long list?
[02:33] <philfo> top
[02:33] <genii> heh
[02:33] <philfo> after that is metacity
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> you ARE running KDE right?
[02:34] <genii> if you hit 1 while using top it will show you individual cpu usage as well
[02:34] <philfo> switches up a bit
[02:34] <philfo> I'm running kubuntu as far as I can tell.
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> does it look different from ubuntu?
[02:35] <philfo> nope
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> heh
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> philfo: did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> or just kdm?
[02:35] <philfo> just the available processes changed when I installed kubuntu desktop
[02:36] <philfo> did the whole thing as far as I know.
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> log out... and in the login screen, there will be a "session" button or something similar, click it and select "kde"
[02:36] <LeeJunFan> philfo: when you login you have to choose the session type, pick KDE.
[02:36] <LeeJunFan> yeah, what nosrednaekim said. :)
[02:36] <philfo> gotcha.  back in a bit.  thanks
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> Should probably tell philfo when he comes back to change /etc/X11/default-display-manager to /usr/bin/kdm too
[02:38] <takeda> heloo................
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> yeah..
[02:39] <takeda> welcom..
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> nosrednaekim spits on it...;)
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> just kidding..
[02:39] <genii> heh
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> xfce is awesome for low specs
[02:40] <genii> nosrednaekim: Well, it's a feisty laptop, p3 500 128 ram and 4Gb hd... so works tolerable but not great. KDE is outta the question
[02:40] <martalli> nosrednaekim, I was OK with xfce, but it really isn't all that great compared to kde for low specs.  I have a p2-300 which runs kubuntu edgy without any noticable delay compared to xubuntu
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> I'm running xfce on 266mhz...
[02:41] <jhutchins> ?dejan
[02:41] <Iwonder|too> nosrednaekim: how much ram?
[02:41] <martalli> nosrednaekim, Personally, I would think about fluxbuntu for some really low end specs.
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> not right now mind you...i'm on kubunutu with a turion X2
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> 128MB
[02:42] <jhutchins> xfce
[02:42] <Iwonder|too> i've got a little machine i need to load something with gui on
[02:42] <jhutchins>  is pretty awesome all around.
[02:42] <soulrider> holy crap
[02:42] <c1|freaky> hi all. i
[02:42] <genii> If I had another 128 sodim I'd likely use KDE
[02:42] <soulrider> i think something is wrong with my hardware, VERY wrong
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> soulrider: yeah?
[02:42] <soulrider> yeah
[02:43] <soulrider> onwe of my HDs sort of died
[02:43] <MepisReign> what happened soulrider?
[02:43] <soulrider> and now i tried burning with KDE
[02:43] <jhutchins> KDE is pretty comfortable with 512, at lest the way I run it.
[02:43] <soulrider> and it froze
[02:43] <soulrider> i rebooted
[02:43] <soulrider> and i wouldnt boot
[02:43] <soulrider> i had to run fschk manually
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: it'll run pretty happily on 256
[02:43] <soulrider> that happened twice
[02:43] <MepisReign> any strange noises from the system soulrider?
[02:43] <c1|freaky> hi all. i'm on feisty (kubuntu) and i installed ubuntu-desktop cuz i wanted to try out gnome. now ... (i dont know if it was caused by this but ...) the polyester kde theme is installed but instead some theme called CDE is used. polyester doesn't show up in the style options. everything looks stupid now. some fonts have changed. any ideas or solutions?
[02:43] <soulrider> no MepisReign
[02:44] <Iwonder|too> it will run with 128 as long as X acceleration functions
[02:44] <soulrider> my hard dreive was making strange noises
[02:44] <soulrider> but i disconnected it
[02:44] <MepisReign> try reseating the connections first
[02:44] <soulrider> i think somehting might nbe wrong with my IDE cables or something
[02:44] <MepisReign> clicking noise?
[02:44] <philfo> ok, well I realized something was not right a while back, but didn't know how to fix it.
[02:44] <genii> hdd strange noises=bad
[02:44] <soulrider> bcuase KDE gave me an input/output error
[02:44] <soulrider> MepisReign: i disconnected the faulty hard drive
[02:44] <crackhead_25> what are the commandline commands to format removable disks??
[02:45] <philfo> there was an error on log-in though
[02:45] <crackhead_25> !format
[02:45] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:45] <jhutchins> soulrider: Might have changed the default ID of the remaining drive(s).
[02:45] <soulrider> jhutchins: nope
[02:45] <crackhead_25> (in kubuntu)
[02:45] <soulrider> they didnt
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> philfo: and it was?
[02:45] <soulrider> i think im gonna have to send my PC to be checked or something
[02:45] <jhutchins> soulrider: lock-up after time is usually thermal.
[02:45] <philfo> "the process for the file protocol died unexpectedly"
[02:45] <soulrider> it randomly freezes with k3b
[02:46] <MepisReign> only with k3b?
[02:46] <soulrider> yes
[02:46] <soulrider> only k3b
[02:46] <genii> soulrider Might be a jumper issue
[02:46] <soulrider> genii:
[02:46] <soulrider> today while in windows
[02:46] <soulrider> it happened on linux too
[02:46] <philfo> that was the very fist thing to come up when KDE was opening
[02:46] <soulrider> im listening to music
[02:46] <soulrider> fromt he hard drive i think its faulty
[02:46] <soulrider> and it just stoped
[02:46] <soulrider> and 3 seconds after my comp freezes
[02:46] <soulrider> same thing happens with k3b
[02:46] <genii> yah not good
[02:47] <soulrider> my main drive is SATA
[02:47] <soulrider> si its not connected with the same cbled
[02:47] <soulrider> thats why i think im not getting problems
[02:47] <c1|freaky> guy's my whole desktop is messed up can't someone help me im going crazy!
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> hd's don't generally make strange noises from a bad cable.
[02:47] <MepisReign> i would check the connections and the jumper settings first soulrider
[02:47] <Camaxtli> c1|freaky: Describe the problem and perhaps we can help you.
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> they just get errors or arn't found on boot.
[02:48] <soulrider> MepisReign:
[02:48] <soulrider> i think im gonna tell my dad to help me with that
[02:48] <c1|freaky> my problem is that suddenly some fonts in kde have changed. also the standard (polyester) theme doesnt show up in the style list anymore and a theme called CDE is used. but the polyester theme is installed. i did do nothing!
[02:49] <crackhead_25> !DiskMounter
[02:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:49] <soulrider> its just, sometimes it burns with k3b, sometimes it doesnt, and i never ha dissues with breassero
[02:49] <crackhead_25> anyone know the commandline commands to format/partition removable drives??
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> c1|freaky: might check to see if something got removed, try re-installing kubuntu-desktop
[02:50] <c1|freaky> i allready did that. apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-default-settings
[02:50] <c1|freaky> doesnt help
[02:50] <philfo> it's getting faster though
[02:50] <c1|freaky> even after a reboot
[02:50] <LeeJunFan> c1|freaky: how about sudo apt-get -f install ?
[02:51] <jarn> Is there any way to make folders in my path recursive?
[02:51] <genii_> argh disconnected
[02:51] <jhutchins> jarn: Nope.
[02:51] <jarn> jhutchins: Okay, thanks. :(
[02:51] <takeda> halo geni salam kenal
[02:52] <jhutchins> jarn: Best to work with the LFH standards.
[02:52] <takeda> halo geni salm kenal
[02:52] <jarn> jhutchins: What is LFH?
[02:52] <Camaxtli> c1|freaky:  Change the fonts manually in kcontrol.
[02:52] <c1|freaky> LeeJunFan: it says allready the newest version - and --reinstall works - the packages get reinstalled but nothing happens the theme still doesnt show up
[02:52] <jhutchins> Linux File Hierarchy - what goes where.
[02:52] <genii> soulrider There are some good hd utilities on the Ultimate Boot CD
[02:52] <LeeJunFan> jarn: you've heard of LFS = linux from scratch? LFH=linux from hell :)
[02:52] <jarn> LeeJunFan: LOL
[02:53] <jhutchins> jarn: Sorry, wrong acronym.
[02:53] <jhutchins> !fhs | jarn
[02:53] <ubotu> jarn: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:53] <genii> LeeJunFan: LFS is a great site actually :)
[02:53] <jarn> jhutchins: Why would making a folder in the path recursive violate what goes where?
[02:53] <jhutchins> jarn: That's not what it violates.
[02:53] <mrand> I'm doing an alternate install but now KDE isn't listed as one of the sessions in kdm and "default" or "failsafe" give me some ugly window manger (or maybe it is none at all).  Anyone have any ideas?
[02:53] <LeeJunFan> c1|freaky: try creating a new user and see if that user has the same problem, will tell us if something on the system is fubar as opposed to just for one user.
[02:54] <jhutchins> jarn: If you put your executables in the right place according to the FHS, you won't have to mess with your path.
[02:54] <genii> mrand sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:54] <mrand> The system was initially console only.  But I did `apt-get install kubuntu-desktop` and that hasn't fixed anything. :-S
[02:54] <jarn> jhutchins: Well, I wanted to make subdirectories in /home/jarn/bin to keep my stuff organized, otherwise it would get more cluttered than I would like.
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> c1|freaky: you should be able to make a new user with the system settings tools, then click your menu and switch user
[02:55] <genii> mrand Did it actually install everything?
[02:55] <mrand> genii: installing that didn't even pull in kdm for some reason. :-(
[02:55] <jhutchins> jarn: Take a look at the wikipedia article, it may give you a better way.
[02:55] <c1|freaky> ok ill try on emoment
[02:56] <mrand> genii: should I uninstall and reinstall then?  I had to install kubuntu-desktop twice for it to take.  Maybe it didn't take after all.
[02:56] <zen> when is KDE4 supposed to be released?
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> zen: when it's ready :p
[02:56] <mrand> zen: after dukenukem forever, I think
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> zen: no release date yet.
[02:57] <zen> You guys are comforting.  :P
[02:57] <genii> mrand If you have enough space on hd, having more than 1 wm is fine
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> zen: although I hear they are getting close to alpha release.
[02:57] <mrand> genii: I currently seem to have no wm at all
[02:57] <genii> mrand so kdm is the login but kde itself seems not there?
[02:58] <zen> LeeJunFan, will it be a usable alpha, or will it be a kind of, "Here, you can look at it, but as soon as you click, it crashes" alpha?
[02:58] <ksnipa> how can i quite a frozen session?
[02:58] <jarn> jhutchins: I am looking at it, I don't see a better way. Synthetic links might be useful, but that still wouldn't be as good as what I would like.
[02:58] <c1|freaky> that user has the same problem! the default session is now gnome btw - can't i just remove the gnome stuff or just get it completely back to kubuntu in some way? :((
[02:58] <intelikey> can't sudo, and need/want to copy a file owned by someone else, i have read access to it, but need to preserve ownership.   can it be done ?
[02:58] <zen> LeeJunFan, think a beta might be out by julyish?
[02:59] <MepisReign> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace ksnipa
[02:59] <LeeJunFan> zen: I don't know if usable alpha isn't an oxymoron anyway.
[02:59] <intelikey> ?
[02:59] <mrand> I'm autoremoving kubuntu-desktop before I reinstall it...
[02:59] <genii> mrand Sounds like a plan
[03:00] <ksnipa> awsome didn't even cross my mind, thought that just restarted x
[03:00] <soulrider> im gonna try and burn some more disks now and see it if still freezes
[03:00] <LeeJunFan> !removegnome | c1|freaky
[03:00] <ubotu> c1|freaky: Want to remove gnome/kde/xfce completely? Look at debfoster, it's a great help
[03:00] <MepisReign> indeed :)
[03:00] <c1|freaky> can i make apt reinstall all packages which get installed by installing kubuntu-desktop ?
[03:00] <LeeJunFan> if you remove libgnome it should remove pretty much all gnome stuff.
[03:00] <LeeJunFan> I'm out for a bit - 24's on.
[03:03] <eilker> !chroot
[03:03] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[03:03] <eilker> !chrooting
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chrooting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <AbortD> !c
[03:04] <AbortD> !ch
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <AbortD> gey
[03:04] <Minataku> genii! :D
[03:04] <specialbuddy> am I going to have a lot of problems if I upgrade to feisty?
[03:04] <pale> i need help in spanish
[03:04] <firecrotch> !es | pale
[03:04] <ubotu> pale: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:04] <MepisReign> que te paso pale?
[03:05] <genii> Minataku: :)
[03:07] <Minataku> Heehee
[03:08] <eilker> !fakeroot
[03:08] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 376 kB
[03:09] <genii> Minataku I've been holed up at home watching hockey and subsisting on pizza,coffee, and licorice sticks
[03:09] <Minataku> genii: Heehee
[03:10] <genii> In fact I'm watching the Detroit/Anaheim game right now
[03:13] <AbortD> !ra0
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ra0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <Alonea> Jucato: hello
[03:15] <genii> !kteatime
[03:15] <ubotu> kteatime: KDE utility for making a fine cup of tea. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 85 kB, installed size 388 kB
[03:15] <superlolman> hi
[03:15] <Jucato> hi Alonea
[03:16] <Alonea> it seems I can never find one video utility to do what I want. on windows or linux.
[03:16] <superlolman> i am trying to install latest version of kubuntu, but just after i start install it goes to black screen with video mode not supported, i tryed change video mode options at bottom, run it in safe mode but still the same, any one know why?
[03:17] <genii> Jucato According to http://www.seerofsouls.com/channelstats/kubuntu.html yer a fast typer today
[03:17] <Belboz99> Hey, is there any easy way to enable XDMCP in Kubuntu 6.10?
[03:17] <genii> yesterday, rather
[03:17] <Jucato> genii: I've always been at the top of those stats :)
[03:17] <genii> LOL
[03:18] <Alonea> wow. thats a lot of line Jucato
[03:18] <ksnipa> Anyone know how I can only show windows for a current desktop on the taskbar, I've done it before, but I can't seem to find the option right now...
[03:18] <ksnipa> I've looked through the taskbar and panel properties
[03:18] <Jucato> ksnipa: let me guess, you're using Beryl?
[03:18] <sstchur_> ksnipa: right click on the taskbar: configure taskbar
[03:18] <genii> Jucato What I found funny there:  intelikey gives a lot of monologues
[03:19] <Jucato> genii: :D
[03:19] <Jucato> yeah, he has always been 2nd to me ever since I arrived here :P
[03:19] <ksnipa> yea Jucato I got beryl on, is this whats messing things up?
[03:19] <firecrotch> genii: Do you have stats for #kubuntu-offtopic?
[03:19] <Jucato> ksnipa: yep
[03:19] <Buddha|> I'm trying to install the beta of Thunderbird 2 from source, and it's' complaining that GCC can't create executables.  What do I need to install to get it to work?
[03:19] <ksnipa> no work arounds?
[03:19] <genii> firecrotch I was trying to find them earlier but so far no luck
[03:19] <sstchur_> ksnipa: just leverage the cube instead
[03:20] <superlolman> i am trying to install latest version of kubuntu, but just after i start install it goes to black screen with video mode not supported, i tryed change video mode options at bottom, run it in safe mode but still the same, any one know why? anyone?
[03:20] <crackhead_25> what are the commandline commands to (re)format partitions of disks (removable and not)??
[03:20] <ksnipa> I'm guessing beryl was designed with gnome in mind
[03:20] <crackhead_25> superlolman: use alternate install cd
[03:20] <Bsims> I am trying to rip a CD with konq and it is screaming I don't have permissions to the device...
[03:20] <superlolman> what do you mean crackhead, i have to download another iso?
[03:20] <crackhead_25> bsims: sudo ..
[03:21] <crackhead_25> superlolman: yeah, the alternate install
[03:21] <Bsims> crackhead_25: shouldn't need it, I am a member of cdrom and disks
[03:21] <crackhead_25> yeah, but to run one of the programs that program is running, you may need to have sudo power
[03:21] <superlolman> i got this crackhead_25 CD Image for desktop and laptop PCs, i need this? Other installation options
[03:22] <Bsims> crackhead_25: to run lame I don't think so
[03:22] <crackhead_25> you need "...alternate-install..." for whatever your computer type.
[03:22] <crackhead_25> (there will be one of the images with that name)
[03:22] <Alonea> it was funny when I went back on windows yesterday for the first time in months. I started screaming at it within 5 minutes on the pop up that said "new programs installed" I hate popup notifications...of course the only reason I am using windows today is for video and Corel Painter IX.5
[03:22] <crackhead_25> can anyone tell me what the commandline command are to edit partitions???
[03:23] <Alonea> cfdisk or fdisk
[03:23] <superlolman> crack can i query you please
[03:24] <ksnipa> alonea I had a similar experience I've only been in this world for a few months but the minute I had to go back to helping someone fix a windows box, all the years of frustration came rushing back
[03:24] <superlolman> crackhead_25 are you sure using 64-bit PC (AMD64) alternate install CD will make a differance/
[03:25] <[pyro] > hm strange. my dvd::rip is working perfectly now :/
[03:25] <Alonea> ksnipa: yup. and the video program I am using keeps doing screwy things that dont involve making my video. Stupid FlasKMPEG...Thing is, I need to edit .vob files and a lot of software doesn't support it really.
[03:27] <Alonea> nope...its still doing it. I can't get it to do more than 2 minutes 5 seconds of video before it stops...
[03:27] <Buddha|> Does anyone know what I need to install to get GCC to create executables?
[03:27] <genii> Buddha|: mostly the package build-essential
[03:27] <ksnipa> Alonea: yea thats the only thing I can ever see me using a windows box for again, I've messed around with a few native video editors and their still a few years behind what I need (which even then is just simple cut paste mash up video maker). But I wonder if programs like particle magic run in linux
[03:28] <Alonea> ksnipa: its crazy, my dad bought hundreds of dollars worth of video software and none will do .vobs except for the one that came with the computer that crashses all the time...
[03:28] <genii> Buddha|: Some source code may need additional things like kernel headers or even occasionally the linux kernel sources. Normally whatever they require is found in a README in where the Makefile is
[03:29] <ksnipa> Alonea: couldn't you just convert the vob to a mpeg and then have it work in anything.
[03:31] <[pyro] > hi genii :)
[03:31] <Alonea> ksnipa: thats what I am trying to do, but I don't know what to use to convert with. sorenson doesn't read them...bah. this is gonna be a nightmare no matter what i do.
[03:31] <genii> I'm not sure if Gordian Knot has a deb bit  it's pretty good
[03:31] <sstchur> When I try to record something with Istanbul, it always crashes: "The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'."  Is there anything I can do about this, or is it just a bug in the program?
[03:31] <genii> [pyro]  :) Hi
[03:31] <soulrider> damn, my sysrem froze again
[03:32] <soulrider> im gonna see if the same happens with brassero
[03:32] <[pyro] > genii: i got my tx2 card. Kubuntu see's the drives, but the controller keeps saying "No Array found...." Press Esc to continue booting. Cant find any setting in the cards BIOS to turn that off :(
[03:33] <Buddha|> genii: thanks.  My real problem is that I can't get Kmail to download any new mail from my Gmail account.  It says there's no new mail, but it only downloaded 732 messages, whereas I actually have over 4800 messages.
[03:33] <ksnipa> Alonea: I had one app, I used to use unfortunatly can't remember the name, but Google always came up with it, but another way that may work for you albeit a few extra steps then needed, is if you have the vob files in a dvd iso, then most iso programs I've seen let you extract the mpeg right out of it
[03:34] <rickympl> !fesity
[03:34] <ksnipa> (an an mpeg file)
[03:34] <rickympl> !feisty
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:34] <genii> [pyro]  Weird, I haven't had that with them before
[03:34] <[pyro] > genii: you dont use them for their raid function, just additional drive connections yeah?
[03:35] <genii> [pyro] : I use them for raid, but not on the cards. I use raid partitions and setup raid5 arrays
[03:35] <genii> [pyro] : Normally just one master per ribbon
[03:36] <[pyro] > genii: yeah thats what im doing too. Im not using the raid function on the card itself, just setting up software raid
[03:36] <[pyro] > genii: yeah im connecting 2 drives per ribbon. I have 6 drives im connecting so i need to.
[03:37] <genii> [pyro]  From the msg yer getting looks like some bios thing on the card
[03:37] <crackhead_25> superlolman: use whatever the install cd was you were using but in alternate-install image form,a nd yeah it very well may work..
[03:37] <superlolman> alright ill try it, just sucks that i can only dl at 240kbs shitty connection lol
[03:37] <[pyro] > genii: yeah thats what i thought too. I went into the bios on the card and checked it all out but i cant see an option to turn the message off.
[03:37] <evfreshman2025> can someone help me out?
[03:37] <[pyro] > *shrugs* oh well, just have to press Esc when booting :D
[03:38] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ask question. not ask for help.
[03:38] <genii> [pyro] : Looking up the error now.
[03:38] <bordy> Anyone here have any experience with democracy player?
[03:38] <evfreshman2025> under system settings i want to make my screen size smaller, but for some reason the little nob wont move
[03:39] <evfreshman2025> i am under admin mode, and it still wont let me
[03:39] <mrand> I'm used to using guarddog as my firewall front end.  How would I get this or an equivalent program in Kubuntu?
[03:40] <hendaus_> hiya
[03:40] <mrand> genii: BTW, it worked.  Thanks.
[03:40] <genii> [pyro] : Can't find much on it :( But I never had that with all the ultra100 and ultra133 tx2
[03:40] <genii> mrand Glad tohelp
[03:40] <Jucato> !info guarddog | mrand
[03:40] <hendaus_> anyhelper knows about amule here?
[03:40] <ubotu> mrand: guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[03:40] <Jucato> !guarddog
[03:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:41] <mrand> uh... I don't really want to configure iptables by hand.  what a nightmare
[03:41] <genii> mrand Now all the updates/upgrades only are left LOL
[03:41] <Jucato> mrand: guarddog is available from the repository
[03:41] <mrand> I guess I need to add a universe repository to apt
[03:41] <[pyro] > genii: yeah its a bit strange, ill look more into it and see what i can find. Thanks for your help though :)
[03:42] <genii> [pyro]  Anytime
[03:43] <intelikey> i'm gonna mess around and crack this thing yet.
[03:45] <Buddha|> Does anyone know how to get KMail to download all messages from Gmail?
[03:46] <[pyro] > Buddha|: no sorry i dont have a gmail account :(
[03:46] <[pyro] > Buddha|: is it stopping at the same message each time you try it?
[03:47] <evfreshman2025> can someone answer my question?
[03:47] <Buddha|> [pyro] : It downloaded the first 732 messages, and now it's saying there are no new messages in the account, but I know there are.
[03:47] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: as you want a smaller resolution?
[03:47] <soulrider> evfreshman2025: change your resolution ?
[03:48] <soulrider> !xorg | evfreshman2025
[03:48] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:48] <ksnipa> all right, alt + ctrl + backspace isn't working on ending a session thats hanged up on me, any ideas on how I can quit the process? I've tried ctrl + c and ctrl + q but none of those seem 2 be working either
[03:48] <evfreshman2025> well it dosent work!~
[03:48] <[pyro] > Buddha|: ah ok, yeah im not sure. I do know some clients have problems with some e-mails and stop at the problem email each time you try and download them from the server. Doesnt sound like your problem though.
[03:48] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: best is to add the resolution you want to the list. go look at that page, it should tell you how.
[03:49] <intelikey> ksnipa alt+SysRQ+r  then try it.
[03:49] <AbortD> anyone know if there is a script for sper karamba that shows ra0
[03:49] <Alonea> ah yes! magical sysrq!
[03:49] <Alonea> Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring
[03:49] <ksnipa> intelikey whats sysrq?
[03:50] <intelikey> daz da button dat ya need ta push
[03:50] <Alonea> ksnipa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[03:50] <intelikey> ksnipa normally shared with pring screen
[03:51] <intelikey> some ksyboards may differ
[03:52] <Alonea> yeah, its shared with end on my lap. I have to hold down fn, alt, end button, then put in the letters...its a bit of a stretch to do physically on a laptop, but I manage
[03:52] <ksnipa> all right thanks yea I got a logitech windows keyboard doesn't show sysrq on it
[03:53] <ksnipa> perfect thanks
[03:53] <Alonea> yup. its a useful thing to know.
[03:54] <ksnipa> yea, it'll come in handy considering second time the shell app locked me out
[03:54] <ksnipa> first time I jus waited it out
[03:55] <justin__> Hello, can someone help me.  I'm trying to record from the terminal in 32kbs with Arecord, anyone know how?
[03:56] <ksnipa> Is there way to use scep in recursive mode to download all a remote folder minus say one folder?
[03:56] <ksnipa> *scp
[03:56] <thev> I'm getting an error in Beryl - no GLXFBConfig for depth 32.  I only have a depth of 24 in xorg.conf though.  Any ideas what the issue might be?  (NVIDIA card)
[03:56] <mrand> I've added universe and multiverse to apt, but I still don't find guarddog among the available packages. :-/
[03:57] <mrand> maybe it is in backports?
[03:57] <[pyro] > mrand: i just installed it
[03:57] <[pyro] > mrand: its there. Did you sudo apt-get update ?
[03:57] <mrand> yeah
[03:57] <mrand> [pyro] : I did.  I'm looking in adept right now, though
[03:58] <polly1> Hello
[03:58] <enzo_> What app do I use if I want to use my webcam to record my computer?
[03:59] <enzo_> Sorry, I mean to record ON my computer?
[03:59] <polly1> enzo_: I believe that in adept under multimedia there is a webcam program.
[04:00] <enzo_> polly1: Would you happen to know the name?
[04:06] <KaoticEvil> has anyone else had problems of the edgy->fiesty upgrade breaking nvidia drivers?
[04:07] <Jucato> KaoticEvil: #ubuntu+1 and "yes" depending on your card
[04:07] <KaoticEvil> is #ubuntu+1 for the upgrade tool support?
[04:08] <Jucato> KaoticEvil: #ubuntu+1 is for general feisty support. and it has nothing to do w/ the dist-upgrade tool afaik
[04:08] <KaoticEvil> Jucato: thanks.. ill check it out :)
[04:08] <Jucato> KaoticEvil: the latest nvidia-glx in Feisty is 9755, which drops support for a lot of cards
[04:09] <Jucato> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[04:09] <polly1> enzo_: It is Camorama Webcam Viewer under graphics.
[04:09] <polly1> enzo_: Camorama is a small utility to view, alter and save images from a webcam or a Video4Linux device. It can apply a number of image filters and make remote captures.
[04:09] <KaoticEvil> Jucato: afaik, my GeForce FX5200 should still be supported
[04:09] <intelikey> my "find" is not working...   the man page says   -perm /222  will find files that are world writable   but it finds all files
[04:10] <evfreshman2025> hey everyone sorry, my computer lost internet signal, anyways...can someone send me the link to fix the screen resolution again?
[04:10] <kkerwin> Hi. I have an Orinoco 8480 WD PCMCIA card that I'm trying to get work. Linux detects the card as ath0, and I get some connectivity, but nowhere near the kind of activity that I get on Windows. Anyone familiar with any issues regarding this particular card?
[04:12] <evfreshman2025> can someone answer my question!?!? Please!!! the screen is HUGE
[04:13] <intelikey> oh wait i think i see what i'm doing    it checks if any ont the perms match and seeinf that all files are writable to someone they all match....  duh.
[04:13] <twiztr> evfreshman2025: Umm... Resolution?
[04:13] <evfreshman2025> under system settings, and monitor and display
[04:13] <intelikey> so i need  -perm /o+w   for world writable test ?
[04:13] <evfreshman2025> under ADMIN mode, i still cant move the bar to make my screen size smaller
[04:14] <enzo_> polly1: I want something that will record video, not take pictures.
[04:16] <polly1> enzo_: I just looked at the program and it only takes pictures.  I noticed it earlier today and didn't realize it only does pictures.
[04:17] <enzo_> polly1: Know of anything for video capture?
[04:17] <enzo_> !video capture
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video capture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <enzo_> !webcam
[04:17] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:17] <martalli> Can I run fsck from the livecd?
[04:19] <intelikey> martalli y sure
[04:20] <evfreshman2025> Ummm hello?
[04:21] <martalli> I think the hard rive on this thinkpad s toast, but maybe I'll fsck it...can that "fix" hard drives with bad sectors, etc
[04:21] <intelikey> # security test:  find / -type f -uid 0 -perm /o+w ! -type l 2>/dev/null | grep -v /proc/
[04:21] <intelikey> if that returns anything you have a security hole.
[04:21] <kkerwin> Hi. I have an Orinoco 8480 WD PCMCIA card that I'm trying to get work. Linux detects the card as ath0, and I get some connectivity, but nowhere near the kind of activity that I get on Windows. Anyone familiar with any issues regarding this particular card?
[04:22] <evfreshman2025> thanks for all the help everyone! ='[
[04:22] <polly1> enzo_: How about this: http://www.camstudio.org/
[04:23] <polly1> enzo_: You might want to look into it more I found it searching on google.
[04:24] <evfreshman2025>  UMMMMMM
[04:26] <evfreshman2025> omg i just need some help someone!!!!! It cant be that hard to fix my problem!
[04:26] <intelikey> evfreshman2025 what is your problem ?
[04:27] <evfreshman2025> my screen size wont change!
[04:27] <intelikey> all i've seen is   PLEASE HELP ME
[04:27] <fr0nk> fufu apache ;p
[04:27] <evfreshman2025> thats weird, ive been trying to get help for a 1/2 hour
[04:27] <fr0nk> i restarted apache but it shows the default documentrooot
[04:27] <intelikey> evfreshman2025 did you go to the page that was shown you eariler ?
[04:27] <fr0nk> why? :D
[04:27] <polly1> enzo_: Sorry... I;m not sure if that has a linux version.
[04:28] <enzo_> Looking into it.
[04:28] <evfreshman2025> no because i accitdently got out of the Konversation
[04:28] <evfreshman2025> could you send it again?
[04:28] <intelikey> !fixrez evfreshman2025
[04:28] <fr0nk> do /s/s/z and you have german! ;P
[04:29] <evfreshman2025> what do i do with !fixrez?
[04:29] <fr0nk> <- sry drunk *H*
[04:29] <fr0nk> erm *G*
[04:29] <fr0nk> nevertheless fu apache ;P
[04:29] <intelikey> !fixres | evfreshman2025
[04:29] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:30] <evfreshman2025> when i entered sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart it went to a black screen
[04:30] <greg2> hi
[04:30] <intelikey> evfreshman2025  yeah   and ?
[04:31] <evfreshman2025> it didnt do anything, in fact after about 10 mins i had to restart my computer
[04:31] <evfreshman2025> and im back to the way i was
[04:31] <greg2> fawn lets me do IRC, ping yahoo.com, but says no connection for Konqueror
[04:31] <intelikey> evfreshman2025 did you visit that page ?
[04:31] <evfreshman2025> yes and its sooo very confusing
[04:32] <evfreshman2025> im really new to linux, in fact about 4 days ago i got kabuntu installed
[04:33] <fr0nk> evfreshman2025: satisfied?
[04:33] <evfreshman2025> no because the website hasnt taught me anything
[04:34] <evfreshman2025> just a lot of weird codes
[04:34] <evfreshman2025> i just dont understand why the button on the screen size selector is frozen
[04:34] <neo_> trying to get  sound to work on Virtual PC 2007
[04:34] <martalli> Should e2fsck work for an ext3 drive, too?
[04:35] <neo_> any ideas
[04:35] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: if you are going to use linux, you will HAVE to get used to the terminal. its a part of it. Just give it some time and you will get the hang of things. I know how frustrating it is at first. I have had linux for 2 months and I am still learning new things all the time.
[04:35] <dthacker> evfreshman2025: go back to the web site and read it carefully.  You will have to follow the instructions on the page to get your resolution back.
[04:36] <neo_> hey anyone have any idea how to get sound to work on Virtual PC 2007
[04:36] <dthacker> evfreshman2025: Alonea makes good points.  Take your time and follow the instructions carefully.
[04:36] <evfreshman2025> Okay ill try
[04:37] <neo_> look for sndconfig but its not in sbin
[04:37] <dthacker> neo_: what is a Virtual PC 2007?  Is that a manufacturer, a model, or what?
[04:37] <neo_> MS Virtual PC
[04:37] <martalli> evfreshman2025 If you can't change your screen resolution 1) You have the wrong or the most basic video card driver installed, or 2) your monitor was not properly autodetected and you will need to set those yourself or 3) both
[04:38] <intelikey> neo_ you have isa cound card ?
[04:38] <dthacker> hehe, sorry, no desire to run ms, so no experience
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>  Configuring xserver-xorg 
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>   For the X Window System graphical user interface to operate correctly,    
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>   it is necessary to select a video card driver for the X server.           
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>                                                                             
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>   Drivers are typically named for the video card or chipset manufacturer,   
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>   or for a specific model or family of chipsets.                            
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>                                                                             
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>   X server driver:                                                          
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>                                                                             
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>                                vga                                         
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>                                via                                         
[04:38] <evfreshman2025>                                vmware                                      
[04:38] <evfreshman2025> 
[04:38] <evfreshman2025> this is what came up in the terminal
[04:38] <dthacker> evfreshman2025: Please do *not* paste in the channel.  use pastebin!!!
[04:38] <Hirvinen> !paste | evfreshman2025
[04:38] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, you need to know about Pastebin
[04:39] <polly1> enzo_: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/framegrabbers.shtml#GUI
[04:39] <polly1> enzo_: That site discussess a program streamer that can make an avi from a webcam.
[04:39] <evfreshman2025> oh okay sorry people!
[04:40] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: its ok. we all find out about it eventually.
[04:41] <evfreshman2025> grrr i still dont know how to fix my screen size
[04:41] <neo_> its a laptop with Realtek 97 controller for sound
[04:42] <neo_> but im not sure what the Virtual PC emulates
[04:43] <naught101> where are the settings for the Quick Launcher applet stored?
[04:43] <naught101> or how can I erase the "last used programs" list?
[04:44] <Jucato> naught101: right-click does nothing?
[04:44] <evfreshman2025> OH EM GEE!!!! It dosent work
[04:45] <evfreshman2025> i dont understand Pastebin either, whats the point of it?
[04:45] <naught101> Jucato: there's one icon that's nothing, empty, and if I right click and tell it to remove, a different icon is removed, and the empty one stays
[04:45] <neo_> ok im using a SoundBlaster 16 sound card but i have no sound
[04:45] <naught101> it's something to do with CD-upgrading
[04:46] <neo_> it doesn't even show up as a sound device
[04:46] <Jucato> weird... :/
[04:46] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, the point of pastebin is so you can paste large amounts of text, ususally logs that contain errors and then you post the link on IRC so it doesn't take up space and disturb other users
[04:46] <naught101> yeah. it happens when you CD-upgrade and forget to re-install (or don't want) a program
[04:46] <evfreshman2025> mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[04:46] <evfreshman2025> mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[04:46] <evfreshman2025> mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:46] <evfreshman2025> oops
[04:47] <neo_> ok im using a SoundBlaster 16 sound card but i have no sound iok im using a SoundBlaster 16 sound card but i have no sound
[04:47] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, have you tried doing the autodetect thing again? or do you just want a specific screen resolution that was not listed?
[04:47] <evfreshman2025> i would like to try autodetect
[04:48] <evfreshman2025> i dont know how to do it, i just want my screen smaller, my firefox screen is so big that i cant even see a whole page
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> evfreshman2025: try editing /etc/xorg.conf
[04:48] <neo_> im using a SoundBlaster 16 sound card but i have no sound
[04:48] <evfreshman2025> "Command Not Found"
[04:49] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, then open up a terminal. Should be under utilities I think (not on my linux system at moment). just look around for it.
[04:49] <neo_> i had a similar problem /etc/x11/xorg.cont
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> evfreshman2025: sorry /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:49] <neo_> same mind
[04:49] <neo_> i had typo
[04:49] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: then you are going to copy the first command and paste it. press enter, then do the next one the same way.
"permission Denied"
[04:50] <neo_> ok im using a SoundBlaster 16 sound card but i have no sound
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> evfreshman2025: you have to sudo it
[04:50] <skioski> just had my first failure try to install beryl
[04:50] <ctw> Hi! Is there a way I can change the windowmanager in KDE. I suspect that there's a bug with kwin and xinerama and I'd like to try another windowmanager.
[04:51] <evfreshman2025> omg its soo confusing
[04:51] <polly1> enzo_: If you are still here try this: sudo apt-get install streamer
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> evfreshman2025: the stuff you want is down near the bottom
Whats the first command? im so lost, can you just tell me step by step?
[04:51] <polly1> enzo_: streamer -q -c /dev/video0 -f rgb24 -r 3 -t 00:01:00 -o /home/pollyo/outfile.avi
[04:51] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: to explain what sudo is, its what you put before a command that you need to run with root permissions (known basically as administrator in windows)
[04:51] <neo_> ok im using a SoundBlaster 16 sound card but i have no sound
[04:51] <enzo_> I'm still here.
[04:51] <enzo_> Having issues with xawtv
[04:52] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: alright, are you on that Fix Res. how to?
[04:52] <polly1> enzo_: That should make a one minute long avi file from your webcam.
[04:52] <evfreshman2025> yes i am
[04:53] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: Ok, at the tops it says Run te Autodetect script again. Now, you are going to do the commands under Ubuntu 6.06, since thats the closest to what you have. (hopefully it works for Edgy as well)
[04:54] <ctw> nevermind, I figuered it out
[04:54] <skioski> any1 have the link for installing nvidia driver
[04:54] <evfreshman2025> so put all this in the terminal?
[04:54] <evfreshman2025> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[04:54] <evfreshman2025> sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[04:54] <evfreshman2025> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:54] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: you will do those one at a time
[04:55] <evfreshman2025> oOo i see okayu
[04:55] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: after you paste one line in, press enter. each line is a separate command.
[04:55] <evfreshman2025> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another p       rocess
[04:55] <evfreshman2025> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[04:56] <evfreshman2025> ^^^^ What does that mean?
[04:56] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: do you have any programs up besides your terminal and your irc?
[04:56] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: like Kate or something?
[04:57] <evfreshman2025> I have Konqueror, Konversation and terminal
[04:57] <Alonea> anyone, would konqueror be the culprit here or no?
[04:57] <slestak> in the kubuntu dist upgrade instructions, each of the new repositories appears with an _or_, that would imply only _one_ is necessary.  Am I readint that right?  so it I am using kubuntu with kde3.5.6 i only need the jriddell achive-edgy-dist-upgrade repo?
[04:59] <evfreshman2025> Should i close Konqueror?
[04:59] <Jucato> slestak: dont disable the other repositories. add Riddell's repo so that you can download the new dist-upgrade tool.
[05:00] <neo_> what conf file controlls sound
[05:01] <slestak> Jucato: i dont mean all others, just of the three on the wiki, are only one of the three required or are they additive?
[05:02] <Jucato> choose only one, depending on what you have
[05:02] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: I dunno. something is locking it.
[05:03] <evfreshman2025> Thats weird
[05:04] <evfreshman2025> Whats Kate?
[05:04] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: text editor
[05:04] <a-865> where is configuring hardware hiding in the Dapper KDE menus?
[05:05] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: you can try closing it. I use firefox as my internet browser.
[05:05] <neptunepink> a-865: system settings?
[05:05] <evfreshman2025> i do too
[05:05] <evfreshman2025> I tried, and it still says locked
[05:06] <AbortD> BURN THEM PRISONS DOWN
[05:06] <a-865> neptunepink: I looked and didn't see. Could there be some package that never got installed?
[05:06] <neptunepink> a-865: what hardware?
[05:06] <a-865> neptunepink: pulled i
[05:06] <a-865> neptunepink: pulled ISA sound card, installed PCI sound card
[05:07] <Alonea> ok, anyone know what is locking that?
[05:07] <neo_> great we are moving on to sound
[05:07] <neo_> i have a problem with  sound
[05:07] <neptunepink> a-865: computer administration > sound system? I have non idea beyond that :b
[05:07] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: bah, screw it. lets go have fun with xorg.conf.
[05:08] <evfreshman2025> whats that?
[05:08] <neo_> soundblaster 16 will not work
[05:08] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, load up konqueror and goto /etc/X11/ . Click on xorg.conf and kate should load.
[05:09] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: I want you to copy all thats in it and paste it in a pastebin for me so I can see whats in it.
[05:09] <evfreshman2025> go to konqueror, and type in /etc/X11/ . under what?
[05:10] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: what we are going to do is just manually add the screen resolution. Oh, turn on hidden folders. look at your file menu at the top. its under one of those.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> evfreshman2025: the address bar
[05:11] <evfreshman2025> "The file or folder file:///etc/X11/ . does not exist."
[05:11] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: there is no period at the end. its just /etc/X11
[05:12] <evfreshman2025> alot of different folders!
[05:12] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: I was trying to punctuate my sentence.  ok, look in the X11 folder for xorg.conf.
[05:12] <Fran1> Hello
[05:13] <evfreshman2025> okay send me the Pastebin link
[05:14] <Fran1> Does anyone know if device drivers for brother printer mcf-665cw are avail yet?
[05:15] <Alonea> !paste
[05:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> Fran1: check www.linuxprinting.org
[05:15] <intelikey> genii why are you in #ubuntu now  ?
[05:16] <evfreshman2025> Okay i click PASTE!
[05:16] <Fran1> already did, nothing there yet, but thanks
[05:16] <genii> intelikey I'm here there and offtopic
[05:16] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: now, it iwll give you a link and now tell me the link
[05:16] <intelikey> just wondering if you were a 'nomer' now ?
[05:17] <intelikey> mr. and misnomer   :)
[05:17] <evfreshman2025> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12267/
[05:17] <skioski> hi i cant get adept manger to work it sias the there is allready apt-get or aptitude runing please help i dont know how to close it
[05:17] <neptunepink> gnome, gnome, gnome gnome gnome!
[05:18] <skioski> any1??
[05:18] <neptunepink> !aptcrash
[05:18] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | skioski
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <ubotu> skioski: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:18] <Alonea> woah, anyone else seeing his pastebin all on one line?
[05:19] <a-p2b> neptunepink: I cant find any KDE menu item "Computer Administration"
Is There Somthing Wrong?
[05:19] <skioski> ubotu did that anything else?
[05:20] <skioski> ah it works
[05:20] <Alpha_Cluster> does anyone nkow what this error means?
[05:20] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: not sure, I can't seem to see it correctly. all the text is on one line. gimmie a sec to see if I can get this to display correctly
[05:20] <evfreshman2025> okay
[05:21] <Alpha_Cluster> dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpgk/available' near line 2 package 'xmodmap':
[05:21] <Alpha_Cluster> value for 'status' field not allowed in this context
[05:21] <Alonea> Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)   guys, whats that mean if its on a pastebin page? evfreshman2025, did you paste like that or what?
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: sounds like the pastebin page screwed up, that's a MySQL error.
[05:23] <intelikey> hmmm is paste.ubuntu-nl.org  down again    i mean acting abnormally wierd    it's normally wierd...
[05:23] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: looks like the index file on pastebin got hosed.
[05:23] <evfreshman2025> i have no idea
[05:23] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: ok, so how do I preview it right?
[05:23] <a-p2b> anyone know what dpkg reconfigure is required when you change a sound card?
[05:23] <intelikey> yeah that page is leading me to think the site is hosed again.
[05:23] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: it will likely have to be pastebined elsewhere.
[05:24] <evfreshman2025> Why cant it be soo simple like windows!!!!
[05:24] <Alonea> ok, sorry evfreshman2025, will have to try another pastebin *big sigh*
[05:24] <intelikey> pastebin.us   or .ca  or .gb   or .au   what ever
[05:24] <skioski> any1 got the link for installin nvidia driver
[05:24] <evfreshman2025> I dont understand why there is so many problems with Kabuntu\
[05:24] <neptunepink> a-p2b: then do alt-f2, and run  systemsettings  .
[05:24] <AbortD> it took me kde and getting drunk to just now figure out mine sweeper
[05:24] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, repaste it at http://pastebin.us
[05:25] <neptunepink> a-p2b, err, system settings on K menu...
[05:25] <a-p2b> neptunepink: there is no such menu item
[05:26] <evfreshman2025> http://pastebin.us/18984
[05:26] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: it really doesn't have too many problems, though ati drivers are evil. and Kubuntu is never meant to be easy as windows, which is full of security holes because of it.
[05:26] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, there, that works.
[05:26] <a-p2b> systemsettings: command not found
[05:26] <evfreshman2025> yay
[05:26] <intelikey> # to completely reset alsa, here's a one liner i picked off of irc.
[05:26] <intelikey> kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) && sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sync && reboot -f
[05:26] <neptunepink> a-p2b: then alt-f2, type in systemsettings
[05:27] <neptunepink> a-p2b: then.... I dunno. :/
[05:27] <intelikey> # resets all sound settings  (reconfigure sound)
[05:27] <intelikey> cat /proc/asound/devices && amixer -c1       # list sound device settings
[05:27] <dthacker> evfreshman2025: it's not as easy as windows to set up, but it won't crash all the time either.
[05:27] <intelikey> note you are in for a reboot on that first post....
[05:27] <evfreshman2025> oh
Hows it working?
[05:28] <a-p2b> what package is missing neptunepink ? I can apt-get install if only I can find out what is missing
[05:28] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, now, do you see where it says Subsection, display?
[05:28] <skioski> can any1 gimmy the link to install nvidia driver
[05:28] <evfreshman2025> subsection, display on what?
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> I've actually got 22 machines that just went past a year uptime at the library! :) Would be 24 but 2 had hardware problems.
[05:28] <Alonea> Subsection "Display"
[05:29] <Alonea> its in the Section "Screen"
[05:29] <evfreshman2025> oh under monitor and display?
[05:30] <Alonea> yup
[05:30] <intelikey> LeeJunFan you don't have kids resetting them ?
[05:30] <neptunepink> a-p2b: `sudo apt-get install kde-systemsettings` ... though I cant understand why it wouldn't be installed in the first place
[05:30] <evfreshman2025> I see the following tabs;
[05:30] <intelikey> kids reset the library computers around here...
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> no, the kids ones are in the other room - those get messed with a lot.
[05:30] <evfreshman2025> Size, Orientation & Positioning
[05:31] <intelikey> ah ok.
[05:31] <evfreshman2025> Color & Gamma
[05:31] <evfreshman2025> Hardware
[05:31] <evfreshman2025> Power
[05:31] <Alonea> the "modes" line is what we are going to have to add to. Now, what resolution do you normally use?
[05:31] <LeeJunFan> Our teen and adult users have been really good to the systems, and have adapted very well to Linux w/o any pain :)
[05:31] <a-p2b> neptunepink: maybe because kde was installed on top of edubuntu
[05:31] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: look at your pastebin and look at line 115
[05:31] <a-p2b> kde-systemsettings was not installed
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: didn't we talk before about that sudo wrapper for umount? I recall that being you.
[05:32] <a-p2b> neptunepink: thanks
[05:32] <neptunepink> a-p2b: maybe :b
[05:32] <intelikey> LeeJunFan it's as simple as setting it in front of them and saying you can use that if you want to...   fi you don't, then don't     and they always seem to want to.
[05:32] <intelikey> LeeJunFan yes
[05:33] <evfreshman2025> right now its at 640x480
[05:33] <evfreshman2025> and i need it smaller
[05:33] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: that is the section I am talking about. We are going to need to add resolutions to line 118.
[05:33] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: no, actually, you need bigger
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> yeah, I'm getting a new feisty image ready for the library for next month , this time around I got unoinfs / overlayed on the NFS /
[05:33] <evfreshman2025> oh really?
[05:33] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: like 800x600 would be next step up
[05:33] <evfreshman2025> okay so how do i edit it?
[05:34] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: so basically it acts like a bootable CD with unionfs.
[05:34] <intelikey> LeeJunFan k
[05:34] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: next is 1024 x 768. Do you remember what resolution windows normally used?
[05:34] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: it's pretty neat to know I could give someone a root password for the system, they could do whatever they want to it, and on a reboot it'll start fresh.
[05:35] <Kr4t05> HAH
[05:35] <evfreshman2025> maybe 800x600 h/o let me check my brothers computer really quick
[05:35] <Kr4t05> Does anyone recall my apt issue with k3d?
[05:35] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: well, we can add a couple and then you can choose between them at that screen
[05:35] <intelikey> LeeJunFan yes....     </grins>   give me that passwd     :)
[05:35] <Kr4t05> I fixed it (in a round-about fashion) with sudo apt-get build-dep k3d && sudo apt-get source -b k3d
[05:36] <Kr4t05> Sa-weet
[05:36] <intelikey> well you did mean "normal" people though didn't you  lol
[05:36] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: no, I mean anyone.
[05:36] <evfreshman2025> 800x600
[05:36] <intelikey> oh really.    you don't think i could fix it unbootalbe form linux root  ?
[05:36] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: you can't write to anything except the tmpfs.
[05:37] <Alonea> modes "640x480@60" "800x600@60" "1024x768@60" <evfreshman2025> that is going to be your new mode line. Now you are going to have to edit this as root so back to terminal
[05:37] <intelikey> LeeJunFan and the /dev/nvram
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: not over nfs, unless you got into the bios somehow to change boot settings.
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> :)
[05:37] <evfreshman2025> okay i want 800x600
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> great minds think alike eh.
[05:37] <intelikey> LeeJunFan the nvram is local....
[05:37] <evfreshman2025> so how do i get back to the terminal thing?
[05:38] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: Under utilities I think.
[05:38] <evfreshman2025> the terminal is open
[05:38] <evfreshman2025> what do i type in the terminal?
[05:38] <intelikey> but i've said too much for a public channel already.
[05:38] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: now, you can copy paste this command in: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, mentioning that device isn't probably a good idea here :)
[05:39] <evfreshman2025> okay i have that typed in
[05:39] <evfreshman2025> now i enterd my password
[05:39] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: now, this is the text editor called VIM that I prefer to use. there are others, but this is the one I know best.
[05:39] <evfreshman2025> okay
[05:39] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, now you should see your file, yes?
[05:39] <intelikey> all i was saying is that you don't want me to have hands on    and tell me "you can't break it"   there is no such system.
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: next thing you know someone is going to mkfs.ext3 it :)
[05:40] <evfreshman2025> this is the first line:
[05:40] <evfreshman2025>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[05:40] <intelikey> yeah
[05:40] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, good, now you are going to scroll down using your arrow keys to that section we talked about
[05:40] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: no. I know. I thought of it right after you said that. That's pretty much the only weakness, and it's easy enough to compile a non modular kernel w/o nvram support.
[05:40] <evfreshman2025> okay "screen
[05:41] <evfreshman2025> edit it under "Modes"?
[05:41] <intelikey> yes but be sure you don't leave out rm support   lol
[05:41] <intelikey> ram
[05:41] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: now to go into "edit" mode (they call it INSERT) press the i button once
[05:41] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: but then like you said, I was referring to normal people, and I really don't plan on giving out root :)
[05:42] <intelikey> :)
[05:42] <intelikey> si si
[05:42] <evfreshman2025> wait, click on edit, and push i once?
[05:42] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: so edit your mode line so it looks like: modes "640x480@60" "800x600@60"
[05:42] <Kr4t05> Jucato: what's that have to do with anything?
[05:43] <Jucato> nothing.just noting :)
[05:43] <intelikey> @60   yuch
[05:43] <AbortD> why does everything in ubuntu eat my cpu?
[05:43] <Alonea> intelikey: just using what his computer wants to do it at. i think its really old
[05:43] <kouran> ubuntu really neeps wpa support. wep doesnt cut it.
[05:44] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: you got the line edited now?
[05:44] <kouran> needs*
[05:44] <evfreshman2025> no
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> !wpa
[05:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> I thought it had it.
[05:44] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, take your time
[05:44] <evfreshman2025> it wont let me edit it, infact it just deletd 640xblah blah blah
[05:44] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: did you press i ?
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: what's eating your CPU?
[05:44] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: it should then say INSERT at the bottom
[05:44] <evfreshman2025> yes
[05:45] <intelikey> work program of america    wpa   aka we piddle around     my grandpa was in that in the depression...
[05:45] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, then just move your cursor to the right place and type it in
[05:46] <intelikey> worked from can see to can't see for a dollar a day plus chow
[05:46] <evfreshman2025> OH NO!
[05:46] <evfreshman2025> i just got out of my terminal!!!
[05:46] <intelikey> now what is this computer     wpa  stand for ?
[05:46] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: its ok, you did not save the file
[05:47] <evfreshman2025> I went back into a new terminal and typed in "sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and it says another terminal is using the same code
[05:47] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: so the file is alright
[05:47] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: umm, minimized it maybe?
[05:47] <evfreshman2025> no its gone
[05:47] <intelikey> alt + tab
[05:48] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: yes, alt + tab
[05:48] <netdaemon> any of you guys have an hp dv6000z?
[05:49] <evfreshman2025> Okay im back into where i was
[05:49] <DivA> !es
[05:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:49] <mischko> Is there a GUI to enable modules in apache?
[05:49] <Alonea> netdaemon: I got ha dv8000
[05:49] <netdaemon> Alonea: is it amd?
[05:49] <dthacker> netdaemon: sorry, just an old Compaq
[05:50] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, see if it says INSERT and continue editing
[05:50] <Alonea> netdaemon: yes. AMD Turion 64
[05:50] <evfreshman2025> yes
[05:50] <evfreshman2025> do i move thew white block up to the Modes Line?
[05:50] <netdaemon> Alonea: you use special boot parameters? noapic nolapic kills my usb after a certain amount of time
[05:50] <netdaemon> irq conflicts or something
[05:51] <netdaemon> iommu=off noirqdebug has worked with other distros...dosn't seem to work with this one =\
[05:51] <intelikey> hmmm unless lexmark is made by hp
[05:51] <a-p2b> neptunepink: partial success. system and web page sounds work, but the music player won't play a CD
[05:51] <Alonea> netdaemon: I can't use it. messes up my power on my laptop and doesn't fix what its supposed to fix anyway. I can't use the normal shutdown.
[05:51] <evfreshman2025> Okay I edited
[05:51] <evfreshman2025> it
[05:51] <netdaemon> wonderful
[05:51] <netdaemon> oh well i'll stick with this for a while i suppose :P
[05:52] <evfreshman2025> Do i change the Virtual too?
[05:52] <AbortD> LeeJunFan: xorg is it jumps to 22
[05:52] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: alright. Just double check your line for errors and when you are sure, press the ESC key once
[05:52] <a-p2b> sound juicer finds the cd tracks, but can't connect to the sound server
[05:52] <dthacker> hardware 1, ubuntu 0,  but it was a well played match
[05:52] <netdaemon> other than that, everything is running great =)
[05:52] <AbortD> LeeJunFan: and its running with my ram maxed
[05:52] <intelikey> a-p2b does it have a sound cable connected ?
[05:52] <netdaemon> 7.04 beta btw
[05:52] <AbortD> but not using swap
[05:52] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: after that, the INSERT should go away.
[05:52] <evfreshman2025> yup its gone
[05:52] <evfreshman2025> but i dont need to edit the Virtual right?
[05:52] <a-p2b> intelikey: yes
[05:52] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: now you are going to hold down shift and press the colon key (a colon looks like this : )
[05:53] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: it should show up at the very bottom
[05:53] <evfreshman2025> yup it did
[05:53] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: now put a w and q after it so it looks like this :wq
[05:53] <evfreshman2025> push enter?
[05:53] <a-p2b> intelikey: before I changed the sound card, the music player showed the CD as item 5 in the left window, but now it's not there
[05:53] <Alonea> yup
[05:54] <evfreshman2025> mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:54] <evfreshman2025> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[05:54] <evfreshman2025> thats what i get
[05:54] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: what if you run 'free | grep "buffers/cache"' in a console ?
[05:54] <evfreshman2025> What do i do now?
[05:54] <Alonea> now, do ctrl alt backspace and that will restart your session, sign back in, and you should be able to change your res.
[05:54] <evfreshman2025> okay i will be right back
[05:55] <intelikey> code
[05:56] <intelikey> anything typed in  is now called code     ha.
[05:56] <mischko> Is there a GUI to enable modules in apache?
[05:56] <Alonea> dthacker: why thank you. I guess I am good at giving simple step by step instructions and have a lot of patience. Or at least I don't show it much if I get impatient.
[05:57] <Alonea> I mean, I used to be in the same boat as him.
[05:58] <dthacker> mischko, my google sense says "lots for windows, but none for linux in a 30 second scan"
[05:58] <dthacker> mischko: the command line is your friend!
[05:59] <mischko> dthacker, I can do command line.
[05:59] <evfreshman2025> OMGZDSF.,GBSDFVGBZNKSBFGTRF
[05:59] <evfreshman2025> No it dosent work
[05:59] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: it wont change?
[05:59] <evfreshman2025> no
[05:59] <intelikey> dthacker do you not use google.com/linux   for things like that ?
[05:59] <evfreshman2025> its pissen me off, it wont even let me log in as the ADMIN anymore, the password box wont come up
[06:00] <dthacker> mischko: sorry, I'm being a smart-aleck
[06:00] <Alonea> ok guys, looks like linux is not liking his video card.
[06:00] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, load up a terminal and put this in: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:00] <mischko> dthacker, not to worry.  I've searched around and can't find a package for it so I 'spect it doesn't exist.
[06:00] <kouran> hello all. im doing a full upgrade of edgy after a clean install. it asks me for the install disk. i put the disk in, files appear in the browser, but then they disappear and it thinks there's no disk in the drive. and the updater keeps nagging me for the disk. help?
[06:01] <dthacker> intelikey: I GTFI for everything at least twice.
[06:01] <Alonea> that will reconfigre your xorg.
[06:01] <evfreshman2025> Locked
[06:01] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: wait, are you trying to log in as root?
[06:01] <evfreshman2025> whats root?
[06:02] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: or in your useraccount they had you make?
[06:02] <LeeJunFan> evfreshman2025: root is like Administrator on windows
[06:02] <kouran> can anyone help me with my mounting problem?
[06:02] <intelikey> what's admin ?
[06:02] <evfreshman2025> oh
[06:02] <evfreshman2025> Ummm i guess root?
[06:02] <Alonea> intelikey: silly
[06:02] <intelikey> :)
[06:02] <intelikey> kouran lets hear it
[06:03] <intelikey> i think i have a few minutes
[06:03] <kouran> i asked above, but anywho
[06:03] <kouran> i asked above, but anywho
[06:03] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, what login name did you choose on your set up? thats what you use to login
[06:03] <kouran> hello all. im doing a full upgrade of edgy after a clean install. it asks me for the install disk. i put the disk in, files appear in the browser, but then they disappear and it thinks there's no disk in the drive. and the updater keeps nagging me for the disk. help?
[06:03] <evfreshman2025> Mike
[06:03] <evfreshman2025> (My name)
[06:03] <AbortD> LeeJunFan: still using it all up
[06:03] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, as long as you are not trying to put your name as "root" then thats fine.
[06:04] <evfreshman2025> no
[06:04] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: what did that command output?
[06:04] <intelikey> kouran that is a feisty specific issue   try  #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <kouran> its really weird. because when the updater nags me the disk spins up. only there's no disk mounted at /cdrom0
[06:04] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: so, when you type in your password, what happens?
[06:04] <kouran> feisty? this is edgy..
[06:04] <evfreshman2025> under the terminal?
[06:04] <intelikey> oh  sorry my bad.
[06:05] <intelikey> duh....
[06:05] <kouran> hehe
[06:05] <LeeJunFan> but upgrading to feisty?
[06:05] <intelikey> ok to edgy then...
[06:05] <AbortD> -/+ buffers/cache:     302932     471940
[06:05] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: did you get into your system?
[06:05] <evfreshman2025> yes
[06:05] <evfreshman2025> im on my system
[06:05] <kouran> i clicked full upgrade in adept. its not going to feisty is it? anyway, on with the problem..
[06:05] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: that means you have 472M of RAM free.
[06:05] <evfreshman2025> and when i type in my password on the terminal thios is what i get
[06:05] <intelikey> LeeJunFan that's the way i read it the first time...
[06:05] <evfreshman2025> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[06:06] <AbortD> yeah well when i play kbounce why does it lag
[06:06] <AbortD> and why do i run at atleast 22% cpu?
[06:06] <Alonea> ok, then load terminal, and you said when you did that command, it was locked? make sure all other apps are closed... oh, that again.
[06:06] <intelikey> kouran ok back to me first responce then  that's not and edgy issue that's a feisty issue.  and feisty support is in #ubuntu+1  until it is released.
[06:06] <Alonea> ok, anyone here know what to do when that comes up? the config.dat being locked that is?
[06:06] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: what all do you have running? if you have something that's doing something graphically intensive X is going to be using more CPU power to draw what it needs on the screen.
[06:07] <AbortD> i have super karamba going but no widgets running
[06:07] <kouran> im using edgy though.
[06:07] <intelikey> no you are not
[06:07] <kouran> :|
[06:07] <intelikey> not if you upgraded you aren't
[06:08] <kouran> i just clicked upgrade now and its nagging me for the edgy disk
[06:08] <AbortD> konqueror is taking 10.6% ram
[06:08] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: you don't have amarok running do you?
[06:08] <evfreshman2025> it says its locked by another processs
[06:08] <AbortD> i do
[06:08] <AbortD> amarok takes that much?
[06:08] <kouran> so if i click upgrade its upgrading to the feisty beta? fsck that.
[06:08] <AbortD> dude wth
[06:08] <kouran> *cancel*
[06:08] <AbortD> i cant play a game while i have anything running
[06:08] <intelikey> kouran at any rate try this.      sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list      and commont out the cdrom line
[06:08] <AbortD> dude why does konq rape me?
[06:08] <dthacker> Alonea: I have one hit that recommends rebooting
[06:09] <AbortD> this is a major problem
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: amarok causes a constant load as it scans your collection in the background, if you have a large music collection or told amarok to scan a dir with a lot of files in it it's going to use a lot, it also uses more than it probably should for the graphical equalizer. :(
[06:09] <Alonea> dthacker: hmmm?
[06:10] <AbortD> this is pissing me off
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> dthacker: and still ending up with the same end result.
[06:10] <AbortD> why is konq using 10% almost 11%?
[06:10] <AbortD> and its not scanning
[06:10] <dthacker> Alonea: first hit I found on locked config.dat says a reboot cleared it.
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: konq is? what do you have loaded in konqueror?
[06:10] <Alonea> http://pastebin.us/18984 , ok, people, look at his card and tell me if that falls under 915resolution thing?
[06:10] <intelikey> two words  "eye candy"
[06:10] <dthacker> +1 intelikey
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: probably some huge flash applet? youbube? Maybe java or a highly graphical page?
[06:11] <Alonea> dthacker: he had this a minute ago too...hmm, yes,try an actual reboot this time evfreshman2025
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> youtube* :)
[06:11] <AbortD> a folder....
[06:11] <kouran> are there any plans to include wpa support?
[06:11] <AbortD> and a crappy website
[06:11] <evfreshman2025> reboot my system?
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: and do you have file previews turned on so it shows pictures and what not in place of icons?
[06:11] <AbortD> no java no flash no youtube
[06:11] <intelikey> Alonea can always test with vga=normal nosplash
[06:11] <AbortD> yeah
[06:12] <AbortD> still shouldnt tak 11%
[06:12] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: yes, you know, also called restart?
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> Lots of files in that dir?
[06:12] <evfreshman2025> lol yes okay brb
[06:12] <AbortD> 4 or 5
[06:12] <AbortD> 2 are folders
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: are they video?
[06:12] <AbortD> ope
[06:12] <AbortD> nope
[06:12] <AbortD> text
[06:12] <Iwonder|too> AbortD: how many instances of konqueror do you have running?
[06:12] <Alonea> intelikey: I dunno what the 915 resolution even is. I saw it on that page and was wondering if thats what his problem is
[06:12] <AbortD> 2
[06:12] <AbortD> a crap website with nothing but a few lines of html
[06:13] <AbortD> and a folder with 4 or 5 things
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> It's likely konqueror has claimed the ram possibly as buffer space, and has not yet released it. That's normal. It's not going to release what it's claimed until something else needs it.
[06:13] <AbortD> xorg takes 2% cpu no matter what
[06:13] <intelikey> Alonea what is his complaint exactly ?
[06:13] <Alonea> intelikey: he cant get a resolution above 640
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: and since you have almost 1/2G free ram it's not going to be in any hurry to do so.
[06:13] <AbortD> yeah well when i play kbounce and have konq open i cant play
[06:13] <intelikey> see line   106  of his config
[06:13] <intelikey> Alonea no wonder.
[06:14] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: 2%?
[06:14] <AbortD> 20% i meant
[06:14] <AbortD> my 0 button sucks sorry
[06:14] <Alonea> intelikey: alright, that line looks...odd
[06:14] <AbortD> its like no matter what my resources are chewed
[06:14] <Iwonder|too> there is a setting in koqueror to alter memory usage ,dunno if it helps
[06:15] <intelikey> it also limits xorg to only using that vidio mode
[06:15] <AbortD> maybe i should just go back to gnome
[06:15] <Alonea> intelikey: ok, cool. when he comes back, how do we edit that line?
[06:15] <Iwonder|too> why not load firefox,see if it performs better?
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: that does seem high, but my guess is some other application is causing X to do something, visble or not. I have beryl running, with amarok, and normally quite a few programs open. Xorg is using about 10% of my cpu.
[06:16] <AbortD> nothing i have running can make it do that
[06:16] <kouran> intelikey: if i just do a regular update using the adept updater, from the system tray and it asks me for the kubuntu disk, that means its trying to upgrade to feisty?
[06:16] <intelikey> Alonea try changing lines 106 and 107   to   "        Option          "DPMS"
[06:17] <intelikey> kouran did you try what i sujested ?
[06:17] <Alonea> intelikey: so, take out modeline completely?
[06:17] <Alonea> intelikey: and gamma?
[06:17] <kouran> not just yet. i just want to know why its doing it, and why the disk isnt mounting properly :|
[06:17] <intelikey> Alonea yes if it don't work  he can go back to that setting.
[06:17] <intelikey> Alonea comment out   prepend  #
[06:17] <Alonea> intelikey: and just have it model name "Plug 'n Play" and the line after Option "DPMS"
[06:18] <Alonea> ok, where is prepend on there
[06:18] <intelikey> Alonea "prepend" means put this in fornt of it.
[06:18] <intelikey> Alonea append means put it behind it.
[06:18] <Alonea> intelikey: oh, sorry. misunderstood
[06:19] <nicoc> hey there, can anyone help me installing kubuntu??
[06:19] <evfreshman2025> NOPE
[06:19] <Alonea> intelikey: I get what you mean. comment out modeline and gamma and then just put option under it.
[06:19] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, we got new things to try here thanks to intelikey
[06:19] <intelikey> #<<this is a perpended hash mark  aka pound sign       and this is apended #
[06:19] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: you could try stopping any GUI apps you have running and see if one or more of those being killed brings X back in line. Also what gfx card do you have?
[06:19] <intelikey> Alonea yes
[06:19] <evfreshman2025> okay anything!
[06:20] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: we are going to go back to the terminal and do sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:20] <AbortD> nvidia 5500 fx
[06:20] <Iwonder|too> AbortD:  does your x acceleration function?
[06:20] <AbortD> 25 mb of ram
[06:20] <nicoc> im getting to much errors when i try to install kubuntu text mode :(
[06:20] <AbortD> could i be using the wrong driver?
[06:20] <actinic> looking for program to convert mp3 ---> ogg.  suggestions?
[06:20] <evfreshman2025> okay now what?
[06:20] <Iwonder|too> glxinfo|grep drm
[06:20] <kouran> intelikey, i commented out the cdrom references from sources.list.. see how it goes..
[06:20] <LeeJunFan> Iwonder|too: you knew where I was going with that ? :)
[06:21] <nicoc> hello?
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: could be that there's a better one.
[06:21] <Iwonder|too> been there on a i810 drove me nuts
[06:21] <kouran> hello nicoc
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: try running "glxinfo | grep direct"
[06:21] <nicoc> hey kouran, sup
[06:21] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: if you want, I can make a pastebin with the changes I want you to try so you can see better what I mean
[06:21] <Iwonder|too> xine would lock the mouse down just starting up
[06:21] <evfreshman2025> okay make a pastebin
[06:22] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: hopefully you see direct rendering: Yes
[06:22] <nicoc> kouran: can you help me? im triying to install kubuntu, but im getting an issue on the installation
[06:22] <kouran> tell me
[06:22] <kouran> im sort of noob too, but ill try :)
[06:22] <actinic> nicoc, install issues usually point to a corrupt file or flakey memory
[06:23] <intelikey> kouran your issue and my first diagknosis  are not cohearent.   let me see if i can get us both on the same page.      i misread the tyep of "upgrade" your were doing and reacted to what i thought you were telling me...    simple explanation is this.   the "full upgrade" or any upgrade will ask for the disk as ling as is is setup as a repo/source.    by commenting out the cdrom in the sources.list you should have affectively
[06:23] <kouran> go on
[06:23] <nicoc> when i boot the kubuntu cd y try to start it in the text mode, and then i get a msg that says "timer not connected to io-apic"
[06:23] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: http://pastebin.us/18992
[06:24] <actinic> try downloading the kubuntu iso file once again, confirming integrity with md5sum
[06:24] <nicoc> i already try 3 versions of kubuntu
[06:24] <evfreshman2025> kk its open
[06:24] <nicoc> and im getting the same error
[06:24] <kouran> nicoc: thats out of the scope of my understanding... might be best to try one of the more experienced users. try the forums too
[06:24] <dthacker> nicoc: sounds like hardware problems
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> nicoc: you need to add a kernel param "noapic"
[06:24] <intelikey> kouran now should you choose to use the cd as a source.  the command  sudo apt-cdrom add   should set it up for you.  and then the mounting issue should simply vanish.... if any part of that fails  feel free to gripe at me.
[06:24] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: I "commented out" line 106 and 107 and then added the option thing at 108
[06:25] <evfreshman2025> Okay you lost me
[06:25] <nicoc> when y boot with the noapic option it doesnt recognize any hardware
[06:25] <kouran> intelikely, i shall try in a sec
[06:25] <intelikey> kouran any qusetions or problems ?
[06:25] <LeeJunFan> nicoc: I forget where it's at on the CD, exactly what buttons to press but there's some "extra options" or some such thing that will allow you to change the kernel boot commandline
[06:25] <kouran> one sec mate
[06:25] <intelikey> np
[06:25] <LeeJunFan> nicoc: did you do noapic or noacpi?
[06:25] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: the pound signs will make that line read as a comment instead of a command, as in the program will not read those lines
[06:25] <nicoc> noapic
[06:26] <actinic> looking for program to convert mp3 ---> ogg. suggestions?
[06:26] <evfreshman2025> so...?
[06:26] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: you will need to put a # at the beginning of line 106 and 107
[06:26] <LeeJunFan> nicoc: sry, I'm at a loss.
[06:26] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: then add in that option line
[06:27] <nicoc> i mean. before start the text mode i write: boot: install acpi=off
[06:27] <nicoc> and other ways i canot install it :(
[06:27] <evfreshman2025> okay done
[06:27] <AbortD> can u help me find a gforce fx 5500 driver
[06:27] <Alonea> then press esc, the  :wq
[06:27] <kouran> k it seemed to have mounted. but in my experience, every time ive run the adept updater from the task bar its never asked me to insert the disk
[06:27] <AbortD> i was with the generic one
[06:27] <intelikey> !ati | AbortD
[06:27] <ubotu> AbortD: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:27] <patrick_> has any1 got wow w/bc installed under cedega?
[06:28] <evfreshman2025> okay now what?
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> nicoc: check out this bug - some of the info posted to it may help, some other kernel options are listed there https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/38263
[06:28] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: then do the ctrl alt backspace again and see what happens. if something bad happens, just take out those pound signs you put in and put a pound sign in front of the option line
[06:28] <intelikey> evfreshman2025 be prepaired to undo that from a tty console if needed.
[06:28] <evfreshman2025> okay
[06:29] <nicoc> ok lets see, thanks lee
[06:29] <evfreshman2025> whats the option line?
[06:29] <Iwonder|too> AbortD: what was your glxinfo|grep rendering?
[06:29] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: the option line you put in :  option "DPMS"
[06:29] <LeeJunFan> nicoc: I wish you luck. :)
[06:29] <evfreshman2025> okay im confused
[06:30] <intelikey> Option          "DPMS"
[06:30] <evfreshman2025> but i guess ill push CTRL + A;T +Blackspase
[06:30] <evfreshman2025> and if somthing bad happens and i dont remember what to do?
[06:30] <AbortD> _wth are you saying Iwonder|too?
[06:30] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: look at the pastebin at line 108
[06:30] <evfreshman2025> okay?
[06:30] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: did you add that line in?
[06:31] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: when I had you run "glxinfo | grep direct" - or did you misss that?
[06:31] <evfreshman2025> no i didnt
[06:31] <Iwonder|too> AbortD:  you are complaing of unusually high memory/cpu usage while in gui?
[06:31] <intelikey> evfreshman2025 if    then always remember       sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:31] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: did it say Yes or No
[06:31] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: ok, go back and add that line in.
[06:31] <evfreshman2025> i need the sudo code thing
[06:31] <AbortD> irect rendering: No
[06:31] <AbortD> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:31] <Iwonder|too> then that is your problem
[06:31] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: yes, get a piece of paper and write down that command that intelikey said.
[06:31] <evfreshman2025> never mind
[06:31] <Iwonder|too> you have no video acceleration
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: yeah, then you need to follow the instructions to install your nvidia drivers.
[06:32] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: why doens't he just use ENVY ?
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: pretty much any gui thing you do will use a lot more CPU with generic drivers.
[06:32] <AbortD> i go ino synapic and i don see what they tell me to click
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: what's that?
[06:33] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: it will install the nvidia or ati drivers for you and edit your xorg.conf. works wonders.
[06:33] <evfreshman2025> sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:33] <evfreshman2025> i have that written down
[06:33] <LeeJunFan> !envy
[06:33] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[06:33] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: there you go ^^^^
[06:33] <evfreshman2025> so do the ctrl backspace ect thing noe?
[06:33] <evfreshman2025> *now
[06:33] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: thanks, that's the new feisty thing?
[06:33] <intelikey> evfreshman2025 that's how to fix it if xorg refuses to start...    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg       you can play with your config file all you want as long as you know that command to get you a new fresh one if needed.
[06:33] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: dunno. it was made by the alber milone guy
[06:34] <evfreshman2025> whats the command to get a fresh one if needed?
[06:34] <Alonea> evfreshman2025: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: I heard feisty was going to make it easy to install the right drivers, but since I have always been a do-it-myselfer I hardly ever use any 'tools' other than vi to configure my system. :)
[06:34] <evfreshman2025> oOo i see
[06:34] <evfreshman2025> okay here it goes....
[06:35] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: yeah, I heard that too, but this isn't it.
[06:35] <AbortD> how do u instal a .deb i forget :P
[06:35] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[06:35] <AbortD> sudo aptitude file.deg?
[06:35] <Alonea> AbortD: you can also right click the file and do instlal package there
[06:35] <intelikey> kouran is too quiet .....
[06:35] <AbortD> sudo aptitude install file.ded?
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: keep trying :)
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> I have faith you'll find the b key :)
[06:36] <nicoc> does anyone install kubunto on a mac??
[06:37] <intelikey> AbortD sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[06:37] <AbortD> sudo aptitude install file.deb?
[06:37] <AbortD> oh
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> hey all
[06:37] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: but yes, it works very nice for most video cards, but if you have an ati and have messed up the flgrx royally then it is likely going to do the same failures you did...not even albert can make fglrx "nice" . As for nvidia, I dont hear many problems getting the drivers on
[06:37] <intelikey> AbortD sudo aptitude(or apt-get) install packagename      no version+.ext on the package name...
[06:37] <Alonea> hey Admiral_Chicago
[06:38] <intelikey> the first is for a file you have on your disk the second is for files int eh repos... AbortD
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Alonea: evening.
[06:38] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: every going well for you?
[06:38] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: no, downloading and installing fglrx can do some bad stuff, replacing libGL and such. Need to reinstall mesa after that.
[06:38] <intelikey> s_int eh_in the_ ^
[06:39] <intelikey> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[06:39] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: oh yes, I learned. had to reinstall system.
[06:39] <intelikey> it finally happened.  i'm typing like a geek.
[06:39] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: adept decided to remove fglrx one day...
[06:39] <LeeJunFan> I've made up my mind that I'll never spend money on ATI again, at least not unless they do something better with linux.
[06:39] <AbortD> i forget how to change directories in konsole :(
[06:39] <Alonea> cd
[06:39] <Alonea> cd ..
[06:39] <AbortD> tried
[06:40] <AbortD> oooo
[06:40] <AbortD> i didnt capatilize
[06:40] <AbortD> soooo tired sorry
[06:40] <intelikey> cd /path/
[06:41] <neptunepink> alias c=cd; alias sl=ls; alias l=ls; alias s=cd ..
[06:41] <intelikey> cd /full/path       cd relative/path     cd ~/full/home/based/path    ....
[06:41] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: I had to help a guy yesterday who had installed vesa drivers for his 9xxx ati card.
[06:41] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: he had a fun experience fixing that.
[06:41] <neptunepink> cd ~anotherusershomedirectory/
[06:41] <AbortD> omg what does ssudo apt-get -f install do?
[06:42] <intelikey> neptunepink nope
[06:42] <neptunepink> ORLY?
[06:42] <AbortD> LeeJunFan:
[06:42] <AbortD> omg what does ssudo apt-get -f install do?
[06:42] <intelikey>   the tild is expanded to the users $HOME
[06:43] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: fixes broken installs
[06:43] <AbortD> hm its having me download tons of stuff
[06:43] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: like packages that maybe didn't finish installing for some reason but were still in need of finishing up.
[06:43] <neptunepink> hmph, well it does in konqueror. :b
[06:43] <AbortD> its having me install build essentials
[06:43] <AbortD> because envy didnt install?
[06:44] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: fixes dependancy problems well, so if things have been installed and have unmet dependancies it's going to get those deps.
[06:44] <Alonea> AbortD: oh! Do you want a list of packages you need to install envy?
[06:44] <AbortD> dont need it now
[06:44] <intelikey> ~ = $HOME = grep $USER /etc/passwd | cut -d ':' -f6
[06:44] <Alonea> AbortD: ok
[06:44] <AbortD> so that command fixes installs and dependancy problems?
[06:45] <agan> !beryl
[06:45] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:45] <AbortD> lee
[06:45] <AbortD> LeeJunFan:
[06:45] <Jucato> AbortD: -f, --fix-broken Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place. This option, when used with install/remove, can omit any packages to permit APT to deduce a likely solution. Any Package that are specified must completely correct the problem. The option is sometimes necessary when running APT for the first time; APT itself does not allow broken package dependencies to exist on a system. It is possible that a system's
[06:45] <Jucato> dependency structure can be so corrupt as to require manual intervention (which usually means using dselect(8) or dpkg --remove to eliminate some of the offending packages). Use of this option together with -m may produce an error in some situations. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Fix-Broken.
[06:45] <agan> !installation
[06:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:45] <Jucato> yikes :)
[06:45] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: yeah. It's just installing some stuff that some package you installed needed. Probably envy.
[06:45] <Jucato> AbortD: man:/apt-get in Konqueror
[06:46] <Jucato> sorry about the paste...
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> no you aren't.
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> but that's okay :)
[06:46] <AbortD> how do i run envy now...
[06:46] <intelikey> neptunepink what all konq does i dont know. (jucato does)  but what bash does,  that i pretty well know.
[06:46] <Alonea> AbortD: look in your K Menu
[06:47] <nicoc> how can i search for a user??
[06:47] <Jucato> no I don't...
[06:47] <AbortD> found it
[06:48] <intelikey> Jucato do to
[06:48] <intelikey> and you are our new networking expert
[06:48] <Jucato> O.o
[06:48] <intelikey> so just do your job
[06:49] <intelikey> :)
[06:49] <Jucato> :P
[06:49] <Alonea> heh. So far I have gotten pretty good at borking then forcing ati to work
[06:49] <troxor> what's the trick to enabling the 96xx nvidia restricted drivers instead of the 97xx series?
[06:50] <Jucato> troxor: the trick is 1) not upgrading to feisty (yet) or 2) installing the driver from nvidia.com
[06:50] <underdog5004> so...I've had the adept-update-manager icon on my taskbar for the last few days...when I try to do an update, I've only got one, and it's a python-imaging package which status: upgradeable and requested action: None
[06:51] <underdog5004> troxor, are you trying to get an nvidia geforce 2 mx 400 working?
[06:51] <Jucato> underdog5004: try running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to give you more descriptive reasons
[06:51] <troxor> Jucato: woops ;)
[06:51] <troxor> underdog5004: almost, geforce 4 mx
[06:51] <Jucato> troxor: oh forgot 3) use the nv driver (no 3D acceleration though)
[06:52] <intelikey> what ws the package name to install nvidia glx from the restricted repo ?
[06:52] <underdog5004> troxor, I had an issue with envy trying to install the wrong driver for my geforce 2 mx 400...the mx 400 put it into the new legacy driver area...envy didn't realise that
[06:52] <Jucato> intelikey: nvidia-glx :D
[06:52] <kouran> just use the envy script..
[06:52] <Jucato> as long as the envy script realizes that there are 3 sets of drivers to be supported now, it will work
[06:52] <intelikey> yeah that's it.  heh   ty Jucato
[06:53] <Alonea> i love envy...
[06:53] <AbortD> seems to run better now but now my display is screwed
[06:53] <intelikey> i think i'll install that and see what all it breaks.
[06:53] <intelikey> eeeek
[06:53] <Alonea> AbortD: resolution not correct or what?
[06:54] <intelikey> or maybe not.    have to down grade the kernel to do that
[06:54] <AbortD> yup
[06:54] <AbortD> its all wacked up
[06:54] <underdog5004> The following packages have been kept back:  python-imaging  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[06:54] <Alonea> AbortD: you could try just putting the correct resolutions in the xorg.conf file
[06:54] <underdog5004> @ Jucato
[06:55] <intelikey> ok what's heck.         be back after a 4 hour dl.   maybe.
[06:55] <Jucato> underdog5004: hm... are you on edgy or feisty?
[06:55] <underdog5004> edgy
[06:55] <Jucato> hm.....
[06:55] <underdog5004> indeed
[06:55] <Jucato> underdog5004: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:55] <AbortD> where is xorg?
[06:55] <underdog5004> no aptitude installed, Jucato ...
[06:56] <Jucato> underdog5004: but when it asks you, enter 'q' (quit)
[06:56] <Jucato> huh?
[06:56] <Alonea>  AbortD /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:56] <underdog5004> I don't believe in aptitude...lol
[06:56] <underdog5004> actually, it may already be installed...h/o
[06:56] <Jucato> underdog5004: it's installed by default
[06:56] <kraut> moin
[06:57] <underdog5004> pasting...
[06:57] <Jucato> underdog5004: hopefull to a pastebin :)
[06:57] <kouran> envy script supports legacy cards too right? eg, geforce 2 mx?
[06:57] <underdog5004> kouran, yep
[06:58] <kouran> all in the same program?
[06:58] <underdog5004> yep
[06:58] <kouran> thanks
[06:58] <underdog5004> Jucato, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12273/
[06:58] <Jucato> kouran, underdog5004 as of the 97xx driver series, there are two "legacy" groups as far as nvidia.com is concerned
[06:58] <underdog5004> right, legacy and "new" legacy
[06:59] <underdog5004> so...
[06:59] <Alonea> alright, I need sleep...night dears.
[06:59] <Jucato> underdog5004: hm... you have some unofficial repos I suppose?
[06:59] <underdog5004> Jucato, jsyk, packet-garden is this cool little python proggie that will visualize your network traffic
[07:00] <underdog5004> Jucato, yeah, I think so...beryl
[07:00] <Jucato> something more related to python, perhaps
[07:00] <underdog5004> hmmm...nope..I've also got automatix...
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> I prefer jnettop for seeing what's going on with my network connections.
[07:00] <Jucato> python-imaging-tk: Depends: python-imaging (= 1.1.5-10build1) but 1.1.5-10ubuntu1 is to be installed. <--- this is the source of your problem...
[07:01] <underdog5004> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12275/
[07:01] <underdog5004> that's my sources...a bit late, though
[07:01] <AbortD> nice
[07:01] <AbortD> lets try kbounce
[07:01] <AbortD> tnaks lee
[07:01] <underdog5004> hmmm, I can't think of anything I've installed lately that requires python...
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> AbortD: working better now?
[07:02] <Jucato> underdog5004: ok hold on...
[07:02] <underdog5004> besides packet-garden, of course
[07:04] <underdog5004> oh, and I just switched my sources.list to use us, not ca...switched to ca because of some problems with time-outs with us repos...
[07:05] <Jucato> hm...
[07:05] <nicoc> hey anyone knows how to fix the issue 'timer not connected to IO-APIC' in a intel mac?
[07:05] <philfo> what's the least cpu/memory sucking distro of linux?  opinions?
[07:05] <Jucato> underdog5004: I can't seem to figure out where the 1.1.5-10ubuntu1 version came from
[07:05] <underdog5004> philfo, damnsmalllinux.org
[07:06] <underdog5004> 50 megabytes for a distro...pretty sweet stuff...gui and everything
[07:06] <philfo> ah, sorry.  there is a caveat.
[07:06] <AbortD> underdog5004: can u dual boot it with grub?
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> philfo: openwrt maybe :)
[07:06] <underdog5004> Jucato, oh...no biggie...I'm going to fiesty once I see how it all goes
[07:06] <underdog5004> AbortD, yep
[07:06] <philfo> I want to run some really heavy graphics applications.
[07:06] <philfo> all still photography apps
[07:07] <underdog5004> hmmm, might not be the best for that, like I said, it's really stripped down...check it out though!
[07:07] <Jucato> underdog5004: did you once have edgy-proposed in your repos?
[07:07] <underdog5004> Jucato, uh...no.
[07:07] <philfo> so I guess I should have worded my question "what would be the best distro for running heavy graphics processing?"
[07:07] <underdog5004> not that I know of
[07:07] <Jucato> philfo: though your best course of action would to actually get hardware suited for that, for example, more RAM
[07:07] <underdog5004> maybe xubuntu?
[07:07] <underdog5004> genii! My good friend!
[07:07] <philfo> 4GB ram, 3.4GHz P4
[07:08] <genii> :)
[07:08] <philfo> that's all I can do right now
[07:08] <underdog5004> philfo, damn, you could do _anything_ with that, philfo
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> just run X from the command line and launch your apps from a tty with DISPLAY=:0 appname :)
[07:08] <underdog5004> I mean, darn
[07:08] <philfo> well, explain to me then why LINUX is operating slowly
[07:08] <Jucato> philfo: that already much
[07:08] <Jucato> hm?
[07:08] <underdog5004> philfo, type "top" in a terminal
[07:08] <philfo> a friend of mine says that drive wiring may be an issue
[07:09] <Jucato> it should fly w/ those specs
[07:09] <Jucato> DMA enabled?
[07:09] <philfo> dma?
[07:09] <philfo> I'm a linux noob
[07:09] <LeeJunFan> !dma
[07:09] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[07:09] <Jucato> Direct Memory Access
[07:09] <Jucato> bah :)
[07:09] <genii_> bah ghosted
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> yea, that system should have no load problems.
[07:09] <neptunepink> the best thing about linux is that you can hold a key down and press shift a bunch of times and it makes amusing text
[07:09] <neptunepink> WEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeEEeeeEeeeEeeeEEeeEEeeeEeeE!
[07:09] <Jucato> underdog5004: um.. wait I think I might have a lead. get back to you in a flash
[07:09] <snowman> greetings
[07:09] <underdog5004> Jucato, ok, I'm just tooling around right now...
[07:10] <Jucato> neptunepink: yes, but you have to stop doing that in here
[07:10] <philfo> back in a sec.  thanks guys
[07:10] <snowman> anyone here have a few minutes to help with a usb wireless adapter?
[07:10] <Jucato> underdog5004: ah I think I might have it... worth a try
[07:10] <underdog5004> ok
[07:10] <underdog5004> hit me!
[07:10] <Jucato> underdog5004: add "universe" to your edgy-updates line
[07:11] <snowman> treying to get a d-link dwl-g132 going in kubuntu
[07:11] <Jucato> underdog5004: then, sudo apt-get update as usual
[07:11] <snowman> I can see it in lsusb, but can't seem to get it doing anything else.
[07:11] <Jucato> you know the drill :D
[07:11] <philfo> ok, there's all sorts of warnings about using hdparm, should I be concerned?
[07:11] <LeeJunFan> philfo: you have sata or regular ATA?
[07:11] <philfo> sata
[07:12] <underdog5004> Jucato, actually, I'm in the middle of a sudo apt-get update...remember, I switched back to the us repos...
[07:12] <LeeJunFan> hrm, I'm not even sure dma applies to sata?
[07:12] <Jucato> underdog5004: pooh :P
[07:12] <Jucato> probably not
[07:12] <underdog5004> yeah, 6.5 minutes left...
[07:12] <underdog5004> lol, but I can spin my cube around...which is really really cool
[07:12] <philfo> ok, I'll give you a bit of background:
[07:13] <Jucato> underdog5004: don't make yourself puke :)
[07:13] <underdog5004> actually, with 3 desktops, it's more of a triangular prism..
[07:13] <philfo> I started running ubuntu 6.10 yesterday morning on a 40GB drive.
[07:13] <underdog5004> transparent, mountain skydome, no caps...it's awesome
[07:13] <philfo> loaded the Kubuntu desktop this morning
[07:13] <Tonren> How do I upgrade to qt4?
[07:13] <underdog5004> philfo, is your hard drive old? you may have a bad drive...
[07:13] <snowman> no wireless users here? :\
[07:13] <Jucato> Tonren: what do you mean?
[07:14] <Admiral_Chicago> Tonren: well you wouldn't be upgrading, you would be testing
[07:14] <Jucato> !wireless | snowman
[07:14] <ubotu> snowman: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:14] <Tonren> Oh.  qt4 isn't done yet?
[07:14] <LeeJunFan> philfo: try running 'hdparm -t /dev/sda1'
[07:14] <Jucato> Tonren: Qt4 is not KDE4
[07:14] <Tonren> Jucato: Er..I know that.
[07:14] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: actually, Qt4 is installed by default on Edgy
[07:14] <philfo> my old windows was running of a RAID array 2x 80GB drives
[07:14] <Admiral_Chicago> oh right, i'm sorry i knew that...
[07:14] <underdog5004> and KDE4 isn't done yet either
[07:14] <Jucato> Tonren: Kubuntu already uses some Qt4 apps. but what exactly are you trying to do
[07:15] <Jucato> (Qt 4 has been released. version 4.2 right now iirc)
[07:15] <LeeJunFan> philfo: actually you'll probably need sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda1
[07:15] <snowman> yeah, those aren't really helping.
[07:15] <underdog5004> Jucato, uh, no it's not...I've got 3.3.6 on mine
[07:15] <Tonren> Jucato: Well, I'm doing a simple GUI app with the Ruby Qt bindings, and I'd like to use Qt4 instead of Qt3, because it's easier to use.
[07:15] <snowman> when it says I should be seeing some response from the thing, I don't.
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> underdog5004: thats KDE version i think
[07:15] <philfo> I disabled RAID just a bit ago and was thinking of loading up another distro of LINUX on one of the newly freed 80GB's
[07:15] <LeeJunFan> philfo: and what does it say for MB/sec
[07:15] <Tonren> And there are Qt4 bindings for Ruby, so I figured, why not?
[07:15] <underdog5004> Admiral_Chicago, nope, kde is 3.5.5
[07:15] <Jucato> underdog5004: that's the Qt version that was used to build KDE
[07:15] <underdog5004> although I could get up to 3.5.6
[07:15] <underdog5004> Jucato, ah, ok
[07:15] <Jucato> underdog5004: Qt3 and Qt4 can exists side by side on the same system
[07:16] <philfo> let me run it
[07:16] <Tonren> Jucato: Cool!  How do I install 4?
[07:16] <underdog5004> gotcha...my superkaramba theme is reporting QT 3.3.6
[07:16] <wolferine> anyone ever have to use SySRQ?
[07:17] <philfo> LeeJunfan: should I just follow the commandlines on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA  ??
[07:17] <Jucato> Tonren: in your case, I think you need the qt4 headers (libqt4-dev) and the ruby bindings (libqt4-ruby)
[07:17] <LeeJunFan> philfo: no, dma doesn't apply to sata in the same way.
[07:17] <Tonren> Jucato: libqt4-gui would probably help too, right?
[07:17] <philfo> so run the command line you showed me?
[07:18] <wolferine> its used when a system doesnt respond
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> philfo: you have your linux on something other than sda1 I guess though.
[07:18] <Jucato> Tonren: to run things probably... but to compile, you need -dev packages more
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> philfo: so try this instead: hdparm -t `egrep "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=:space:] ] /[[:space:" /etc/fstab | cut -d " " -f 1`
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> wait
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> damn substitution.
[07:18] <philfo> I haven't run any command lines yet.
[07:19] <LeeJunFan> philfo: so try this instead: hdparm -t `egrep "[[:space:] ] /[[:space:] ] " /etc/fstab | cut -d " " -f 1`
[07:20] <philfo> holy cow.
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> philfo: that command will test your hd speed on the drive/partition you have linux installed to.
[07:20] <philfo> just copy & paste?
[07:20] <Tonren> How do I know which version of Qt, exactly, I have installed?
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> philfo: yeah, put sudo before it though :)
[07:20] <philfo> right
[07:20] <Jucato> Tonren: you can have both installed actually
[07:21] <philfo> no such file or directory
[07:21] <Tonren> Jucato: But... how do I know which versions, *exactly*, I have installed?  4.0, 4.1, 4.2, etc.
[07:21] <snowman> ok, so it seems I don't have ndiswrapper.
[07:21] <snowman> so I type sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper and it doesn't find it.
[07:21] <snowman> I've done an update.
[07:21] <LeeJunFan> philfo: what?
[07:21] <Jucato> Tonren: apt-cache policy <package name>
[07:21] <snowman> suggestions?
[07:21] <Jucato> brb
[07:21] <Tonren> Hmm.
[07:21] <nick_> ok...CD burnt in windows xp (not nero just the built in data burning in windows) cant be read in kubuntu. It has jpg files on it and the cd is confirmed to work on another XP machine.....is there something wrong here?
[07:21] <LeeJunFan> philfo: for what command? hdparm?
[07:22] <philfo> yup.
[07:22] <philfo> was there anything in that commandline that I needed to delete?
[07:23] <LeeJunFan> philfo: no should read: sudo hdparm....
[07:23] <philfo> yup
[07:23] <philfo> did exactly that
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> philfo: what if you just type hdparm? do you get no such file?
[07:25] <philfo> wait one
[07:25] <philfo> giant file
[07:26] <LeeJunFan> philfo: okay, but hdparm is there - that's the output of it.
[07:26] <philfo> ok
[07:26] <philfo> now what to do with that?
[07:28] <LeeJunFan> philfo: crap, I forgot fstab in feisty doesn't have dev nodes any more like /dev/sda /dev/hda, do you know what partition you installed linux to?
[07:28] <philfo> I was just going to say that it wasn't the standard install
[07:28] <LeeJunFan> philfo: if you check /etc/fstab you should be able to get that info from there.
[07:29] <LeeJunFan> philfo: less /etc/fstab
[07:29] <philfo> is this a command line?
[07:30] <LeeJunFan> philfo: hold on a sec.
[07:30] <philfo> thanks for the help
[07:31] <LeeJunFan> philfo: try this instead: sudo hdparm -t `mount | egrep "[[:space:] ] /[[:space:] ] " | cut -d " " -f 1`
[07:32] <philfo> got it
[07:32] <LeeJunFan> And the MB/sec?
[07:32] <eeanm> kate!
[07:32] <underdog5004>  dthacker uh...vim?
[07:32] <philfo> whoops
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> dthacker: haha, vim.
[07:33] <LeeJunFan> hehe, doing this from ssh into my kids computer I just realized how slow his HD is - I bet DMA is off on his.
[07:33] <dthacker> underdog5004: back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and SCO was cool, it was vi.
[07:33] <philfo> 126 MB in  3.03 seconds =  41.59 MB/sec
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> V - eye
[07:34] <underdog5004> lol, there's a reason vim == VI iMproved...
[07:34] <eeanm> vim vs. emacs is a dinosaur argument to begin with
[07:34] <underdog5004> esp when you've got kate
[07:34] <snowman> I must say I enjoy howto's that say "if you don't see anything from iwconfig, your card isn't set up.  set it up."
[07:34] <snowman> that's the part I can't get past :\
[07:34] <LeeJunFan> philfo: that's plenty fast, your HD is not your bottleneck.
[07:35] <eeanm> snowman: well its good to know what the problem is :)
[07:35] <dthacker> eeanm: true.
[07:35] <wolferine> anyone ever have to use SySRQ? (to reboot when a system fails)\
[07:35] <dthacker> eeanm: true
[07:35] <snowman> knew what the problem was pre-howto :P
[07:35] <philfo>  running top says there's a gnome terminal process open
[07:35] <snowman> "card" shows up in lsusb, but I can't seem to get it to be recognized as a wireless lan adapter.
[07:36] <LeeJunFan> philfo: is there anything showing at the top that's using a high % of CPU?
[07:36] <mshade> snowman: what kind is it?
[07:36] <snowman> mshade: d-link dwl-g132 usb wireless
[07:36] <philfo> gnome terminal
[07:36] <mshade> do you know if it works, snowman?
[07:36] <snowman> came with my ISP's router package.
[07:36] <snowman> it does, yes.
[07:36] <philfo> I don't know why it's open
[07:36] <mshade> do you know if it has a linux driver?
[07:37] <philfo> or running, that is
[07:37] <LeeJunFan> philfo: and the CPU use says 99% or some such thing?
[07:37] <snowman> supposedly, it can work through ndiswrapper.
[07:37] <snowman> which apt-get refuses to install.
[07:37] <snowman> it's atheros based.
[07:37] <philfo> it's up & down
[07:37] <underdog5004> snowman, you may need to uncomment some repos to install ndiswrapper
[07:37] <LeeJunFan> philfo: hit k then type in the pid of that terminal (which is the leftmost # to it in top).
[07:37] <snowman> any idea which ones underdog?
[07:37] <underdog5004> does it say that ndiswrapper is referred to, but installation candidate found?
[07:37] <mshade> if it's atheros based, you should only need mad-wifi
[07:37] <philfo> up to 40 sometimes, down to 11...
[07:38] <underdog5004> I uncomment all of them...lol. Of course, I also use automatix and envy...I'm the guy that'll use a sledgehammer to hammer a tack
[07:38] <snowman> mshade: explain?
[07:38] <mshade> atheros chipsets are supported by the madwifi drivers, so you shouldn't need to use ndiswrapper
[07:38] <mshade> !ndiswrapper
[07:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:38] <mshade> !madwifi
[07:38] <philfo> and then?
[07:39] <mshade> !mad-wifi
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mad-wifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <philfo> it's still there
[07:39] <eeanm> just buy intel, then wifi works out of the box ;)
[07:39] <underdog5004> philfo, killall gnome-terminal
[07:39] <underdog5004> ?
[07:39] <snowman> mshade: may I /msg?
[07:39] <LeeJunFan> philfo: or sudo killall -9 gnome-terminal
[07:39] <underdog5004> those guys know what's coming and are preparing to welcome their new linux overlords
[07:39] <mshade> absolultely
[07:40] <philfo> how to leave top?
[07:40] <LeeJunFan> q
[07:40] <underdog5004> control + c
[07:40] <underdog5004> yeah...q
[07:41] <LeeJunFan> I'm gonna have to hook up a new HD to my kid's computer, thing is only getting 12MB/sec WITH DMA, Multicount, 32bit. hehe
[07:41] <Jucato> underdog5004: sorry just got back. did it work?
[07:42] <philfo> ok, I think that was the last of the gnome processes still left around
[07:42] <underdog5004> Jucato, well...now it's saying that gzip threw error (1) when gzipping...looks like the repo is missing an archive...
[07:42] <underdog5004> haven't done the universe thing yet though...
[07:42] <Jucato> oh
[07:43] <LeeJunFan> well, it's past my bedtime, as usual. I'm outta here. g'night
[07:43] <mshade> me too
[07:43] <mshade> 'night LeeJunFan
[07:43] <philfo> ok, killing that process really sped things up
[07:43] <philfo> thinks
[07:43] <mshade> snowman: 'night my friend.  can't stick around much longer :)
[07:43] <philfo> thanks
[07:43] <underdog5004> Jucato, updating now
[07:43] <LeeJunFan> good.
[07:44] <philfo> now I just need to figure out how to read my newly partitioned HD
[07:44] <underdog5004> philfo, read it?
[07:44] <philfo> even see it
[07:45] <underdog5004> philfo, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[07:45] <philfo> I set it up to load up another linux distro just for S&G's
[07:45] <philfo> thanks
[07:46] <underdog5004> Jucato, maybe you know what this means: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12278/
[07:46] <jadurant> how do i extract a single file from a tar archive?
[07:46] <philfo> if it's sda2 do I change the #'s?
[07:46] <underdog5004> philfo, yep
[07:47] <underdog5004> !ark > jadurant
[07:47] <philfo> thanks.  learning slowly, but learning still
[07:47] <jadurant> ??
[07:47] <Ayabara> I'm running dual screen in kubuntu (ati card with fglrx driver). when I move my mouse cursor to the other screen, I want focus to go to that desktop. how can I configure this?
[07:47] <underdog5004> philfo, we're all still learning
[07:47] <Jucato> underdog5004: I really don't know... last time I had something like that, I switched servers :)
[07:47] <philfo> neither of those discs exist
[07:47] <philfo> sda1 or 2
[07:47] <underdog5004> Jucato, hmmm, weird...
[07:47] <philfo> they do in gparted.
[07:48] <underdog5004> philfo, mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda2
[07:48] <underdog5004> that'll "format" the partition
[07:49] <underdog5004> philfo, you may need to sudo that command
[07:49] <philfo> there it is.
[07:49] <philfo> it was sda1
[07:50] <underdog5004> philfo, cool, by the way, sda1 means Sata Disk, master channel, primary drive, partition 1
[07:50] <Ick> how can i tell which version i have?
[07:51] <philfo> excellent.
[07:51] <philfo> there's 75 more GB
[07:51] <philfo> sweet!  thanks!
[07:51] <underdog5004> philfo, imho, much better than C: D: E:, etc...
[07:51] <underdog5004> philfo, np
[07:51] <kouran_> knetworkmanager doesnt detect my wireless network
[07:51] <underdog5004> philfo, just remember to pay it forward...
[07:52] <philfo> hold on, is there anything else I need to do to see that drive now?
[07:52] <philfo> it's still not visible
[07:52] <underdog5004> philfo, sudo mount etc...
[07:52] <underdog5004> ?
[07:52] <_BS_> Mount / Connect to windows share? From Konqueror I can connect to my windows share. Now in systemsettings / disk & filesystems, how do I set it to create and automount?
[07:53] <philfo> gotcha.
[07:53] <philfo> just caught that
[07:53] <jadurant> tnx underdog, got it
[07:53] <philfo> mount point sda1 does not exist
[07:54] <underdog5004> philfo, mkdir /media/sda1
[07:54] <underdog5004> if that fails, sudo it
[07:54] <underdog5004> then mount
[07:55] <Ayabara> anyone know how I get "focus follows screen" ?
[07:55] <eeanm> your screen is moving around?
[07:55] <Ayabara> eeanm: :-D
[07:56] <Ayabara> eeanm: not exactly. I have a dual screen setup, and I want focus to change when I move the mouse cursor to the other screen
[07:56] <philfo> it's "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1" correct?
[07:56] <eeanm> so "focus follow cursor, but only when it changes screen"
[07:56] <eeanm> never heard of that, no :)
[07:57] <underdog5004> philfo, nope, we made the mount point in /media
[07:57] <underdog5004> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[07:57] <underdog5004> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[07:57] <Ayabara> eeanm: that's the one. it works that way in ubuntu, but not in kubuntu.
[07:57] <underdog5004> then you get to put that all in the fstab (File System Table)
[08:00] <crazy_bus> I downloaded a iso from a http mirror.  How ever the md5sum doesn't match.  What can I do?
[08:00] <underdog5004> crazy_bus, learn about bittorrent, or redownload the iso
[08:00] <philfo> ok, the drive is there.  sayy I don't have permissions to see what's in one of the folders (lost & found)
[08:00] <Ick> crazy_bus: download it again. it's more effort to repair it
[08:00] <Ick> if you even can
[08:01] <Ayabara> has ctrl+tab been used to switch between desktops in kubuntu before feisty?
[08:01] <_BS_> Windows share mounting help please.
[08:02] <underdog5004> philfo, sudo chown yourusername /media/sda1/lost+found
[08:03] <philfo> good to go.
[08:04] <philfo> shouldn't I have permission on the whole drive?
[08:04] <philfo> I'm just windering the why as to why that happened
[08:05] <underdog5004> philfo, that happened because you did sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[08:05] <underdog5004> basically, root made that dir, not your
[08:05] <underdog5004> you*
[08:05] <underdog5004> sudo chown yourusername /media/sda1
[08:05] <underdog5004> that'll set it right, I think
[08:05] <philfo> got it.
[08:06] <underdog5004> sweet
[08:06] <philfo> ok, now i should have full read/write access to the drive.
[08:06] <underdog5004> learning is essential for satisfaction
[08:06] <philfo> thanks
[08:06] <underdog5004> awesome, have fun!
[08:06] <philfo> totally.
[08:07] <avalon> Can someone explain to me how I can make the "Remember File Association" option actually work on my system?
[08:07] <philfo> one pain I'm having is just creating an icon for kmail on desktop
[08:07] <philfo> it's not in my application menu
[08:07] <seven11> how can i extract .rar files on kubuntu
[08:08] <avalon> I'm trying to make Xine the default application for everything, but it won't do it.
[08:08] <|lostbyte|> seven11, rar ant free.
[08:09] <underdog5004> !unrar > seven11
[08:09] <|lostbyte|> konq > settings > conf konq..
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> file association..
[08:10] <seven11> underdog5004: yes i got unrar-free but it still doesn't unrar????
[08:11] <|lostbyte|> seven11, unrar x file.rar
[08:11] <seven11> Extracting  Wicked Cool Shell Scripts.pdf                             Failed
[08:11] <seven11> 1 Failed
[08:11] <Jucato> seven11: you would probably want to install the non-free version from multiverse instead
[08:11] <|lostbyte|> seven11, .pdf ??
[08:11] <Jucato> !info unrar | seven11
[08:11] <ubotu> seven11: unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:11] <underdog5004> seven11, ok, first, chill out. second, us the multiverse
[08:11] <underdog5004> use
[08:12] <|lostbyte|> seven11, .pdf is not an archive.
[08:12] <avalon> Yeah I tried the Konq > settings > Etc. It says updating, finishes, and changes nothing.
[08:12] <seven11> pdf is in the rar
[08:12] <underdog5004> hahaha
[08:12] <|lostbyte|> avalon, yes, and what are you trying to play ?
[08:12] <underdog5004> seven11, uncomment your multiverse lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo apt-get install unrar
[08:13] <seven11> i did sudo apt-get unrar-free to get the package
[08:13] <avalon> An AVI file. I prefer it and my mp3's to auto open with Xine since I have it all configured right.
[08:13] <AB3I> evening all
[08:14] <Jucato> seven11: "sudo apt-get unrar", but only after you have enabled multiverse
[08:14] <|lostbyte|> So i belive you changed x-msvideo ..
[08:14] <underdog5004> seven11, after you uncomment that line, do sudo apt-get update
[08:14] <seven11> Jucato: multiverse is enabled
[08:15] <AB3I> I'm trying to get my broadcom 4318 wifi card working with ndiswrapper in kde. I've got it recognizing the card just fine, but i cant get it to associate with my network
[08:15] <avalon> I changed AVI, MP3, Msvideo, and pretty much all of them, but the change isn't working.
[08:15] <AB3I> I'm not familiar very much with iwconfig, is anyone able to help a bit?
[08:15] <avalon> everything still runs to kaffiene.
[08:15] <|lostbyte|> seven11, that pdf was in a rar.. :P.. sorry. i do get that error if the rar was corrupted..
[08:16] <sstchur> Istanbul really wants libxml2 v2.6.27, but evidentally I have installed 2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4.... is there some way I can upgrade to libxml2 v2.6.27?
[08:17] <seven11> ok i get unrar now but non free means that i have to pay???
[08:17] <|lostbyte|> AB3I, read the man iwconfig
[08:17] <underdog5004> seven11, nonfree means you can't look at the source code
[08:17] <_BS_> smb mount, NOT. Help please.
[08:17] <underdog5004> I think
[08:17] <seven11> ok thanks now i get it
[08:18] <|lostbyte|> avalon, what doest right-click > open with say ?
[08:18] <|lostbyte|> is xine on the list ?
[08:18] <AB3I> I did lostbyte
[08:18] <AB3I> it just shows ESSID: off/any
[08:19] <AB3I> even after I went through the stuff in the manual
[08:19] <avalon> Kaffiene, NoAtun, Mplayer, Xine
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> avalon, go back to the konqueror settings and more the xine you enter to the top in preference.
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> AB3I, ok to make it easy for you, basic syntax is. iwconfig <dev> essid <name> mode <mode>
[08:20] <seven11> thanks underdog5004 , Jucato and |lostbyte| works now... i never installed unrar because i thougt non free means $$.$$ :)
[08:21] <Jucato> :)
[08:21] <|lostbyte|> seven11, ;)
[08:21] <avalon> At the top of each of the lists |lostbyte|, still doing the same thing.
[08:21] <AB3I> hmm maybe it was because I didn't give it a mode command
[08:21] <AB3I> is it supposed to be 'mode managed'?
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> Yes, ad-hoc or managed..
[08:22] <AB3I> hmmm ok lemme give that a rip
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> For connecting to a router, yes
[08:22] <AB3I> yeah I'm connecting to a router
[08:22] <AB3I> do i need to specify a channel, or should it go find it on its own
[08:22] <AB3I> ?
[08:23] <|lostbyte|> AB3I, it should find its own. for managed.
[08:23] <AB3I> hmm
[08:25] <|lostbyte|> use channel auto
[08:26] <|lostbyte|> avalon, make sure .avi and .AVI are on the file patternlist.
[08:27] <|lostbyte|> and if the file your playing doest have AvI..
[08:28] <philfo> ok, new problem
[08:29] <philfo> when I'm in adept, it'll be loading up the list of applications & then just quit.
[08:29] <avalon> checked and confirmed |lostbyte|
[08:29] <underdog5004> philfo, try sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:30] <underdog5004> !synaptic > philfo
[08:31] <philfo> I ahve synaptic already.  just use that then, eh?
[08:31] <underdog5004> philfo, yes sir
[08:31] <philfo> thanks again
[08:31] <underdog5004> np
[08:32] <philfo> it does the same thing as adept?  just a different gui?
[08:32] <underdog5004> philfo, yes sir
[08:33] <underdog5004> adept, synaptic, aptitude: they're just gui front-ends for apt
[08:33] <underdog5004> which is a front end for dpkg
[08:33] <philfo> it's a little more list oriented i see.
[08:34] <underdog5004> yep, the only bad part is the search...but it's just a bit slow...
[08:34] <kouran> getting this wireless set up is a NIGHTMARE
[08:35] <kouran> it works without encryption, but i really need to use wpa
[08:36] <underdog5004> kouran, I'm not sure, but you may want to check out wpa-supplicant
[08:37] <philfo> ok, does anyone know of a driver locale for a Canon i9100 printer?  linuxprinting.org does not have it in the list
[08:37] <kouran> ive got wpa_supplicant
[08:37] <|lostbyte|> kouran, wpasupplicant
[08:37] <kouran> ive got wpa_supplicant
[08:37] <underdog5004> philfo, printers seem to be linuxs' achilles heal
[08:38] <philfo> well, it's my only one & it's a pita
[08:38] <kouran> and ive got wicd-manager and knetworkmanager... can someone tell me how to actually set the thing up?
[08:38] <kouran> do i need ndiswrapper?
[08:39] <philfo> i read somewhere that another supported driver can be used for the printer but don't remember which one.
[08:39] <|lostbyte|> kouran, which card ?
[08:40] <kouran> its a gigabyte GN-WPKG
[08:40] <kouran> pci card
[08:42] <|lostbyte|> kouran, You said.. "it works without encryption, but i really need to use wpa" , so you did get it working..
[08:43] <kouran> it works fine with no encryption. i can use the wireless lan manager. but my network uses wpa. ie, it worked when i took down encryption
[08:44] <|lostbyte|> Then no, you dont need ndiswrapper.
[08:44] <|lostbyte|> kouran, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[08:45] <kouran> ndiswrapper is for card that simply dont work right?
[08:47] <|lostbyte|> kouran, ndiswrapper is for cards that dont have native drivers for linux.
[08:48] <|lostbyte|> So they will emulate windows drivers.
[08:48] <rob-west> night
[08:48] <netdaemon> ndiswrapper is best avoided when possible =\
[08:49] <kouran> i need to use these instructions.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500
[08:49] <kfoltman> netdaemon: unless you have a lenovo notebook with bcm43xx chipset ;)
[08:50] <netdaemon> kfoltman: try the native ones yet?
[08:50] <netdaemon> bcm43xx in this lappy, running great =)
[08:50] <netdaemon> using feisty though ._.
[08:50] <|lostbyte|> Same here..
[08:51] <kfoltman> tried it in 2.6.20.11, didn't work well
[08:51] <genii> yeah bcm43xx works OK when setup natively under linux
[08:51] <kfoltman> I'll try a new version
[08:51] <kfoltman> but not holding my breath :)
[08:51] <netdaemon> try using the firmware linked in the wiki
[08:51] <netdaemon> i didn't have any luck with my hp drivers
[08:51] <kfoltman> previously it worked but only with speeds <11Mbps, and the only way to have good transfers was decreasing to 1Mbps :)
[08:52] <wolferine> can I get a hand with my filesystem? Here is my fstab:
 # /dev/hda5
 /dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5     reiserfs    defaults            0       1
[08:52] <|lostbyte|> it was a bit buggy before.
[08:52] <kfoltman> I've extracted the firmware from the native drivers :)
[08:52] <kfoltman> OK, I'll try
[08:52] <wolferine> I have both a /media/hda5 (10GB) and a /mnt/hda5 (entire disk) --- its my backup
[08:52] <wolferine> I cannot mount the /media/hda5, I cannot delete any files on it either
[08:52] <netdaemon> whats a nice packet sniffer that uses qt?
[08:52] <wolferine> can I get rid of the /media/hda5 partition entirely?
[08:53] <kfoltman> anyway, I *do* like feisty :)
[08:53] <netdaemon> feisty is nice so far
[08:53] <kfoltman> still needs a lot of work but nice
[08:53] <netdaemon> i don't see much changes except higher version numbers for aps though
[08:54] <kfoltman> kernel is 2.6.20
[08:54] <kfoltman> (which caused lots of problems with v4l stuff)
[08:54] <kfoltman> the video apps are a lot of trouble though
[08:54] <netdaemon> 2.6.20 is the main reason i upgraded
[08:55] <netdaemon> kernel has my wireless working native =)
[08:55] <kfoltman> I'll try to talk to v4l guys to provide some API for detecting usb audio with no passthrough output
[08:57] <kfoltman> currently if you have a usb TV stick, you need to resort to tricks using sox, which is not what grandmother would do :)
[09:00] <mrkris> anyone here ever run into their display getting really dark. yet the cursor is still bright white, and when you click on the menu, it's normal?
[09:00] <thill2708_> why is it that I keep seeing upgrades to usplash, but nothing ever changes visually? Is there that much going on in the back end of usplash...?
[09:01] <mrkris> it's getting beyond annoying now.
[09:01] <sstchur> How do I resolve these dependency issues where I try to install something but apt-get fails b/c the thing I'm trying to install relies on a newer version of some libxml2 than what I have?
[09:02] <wolferine> mrkris, running into the dark, bring a flashlight
[09:02] <DarkED> how do i install KDM themes in kubuntu 6.10?
[09:02] <Jucato> !changethemes | DarkED
[09:02] <ubotu> DarkED: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[09:03] <DarkED> Jucato: that's wrong
[09:03] <Jucato> DarkED: why?
[09:03] <DarkED> Jucato: I'm talking about login screens
[09:03] <DarkED> Jucato: not KDE themes
[09:03] <Jucato> yes I know
[09:03] <Jucato> did you even take a look into the page?
[09:03] <DarkED> Jucato: well logins aren't covered under 'Appearances'
[09:04] <Jucato> did you read the section on KDM Themes?
[09:04] <DarkED> Jucato: no i didnt, one minute
[09:04] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: are you install the KDM module for kcontrol?
[09:04] <c0nv1ct> did you*
[09:04] <savor> DarkED: Install the kdmtheme and go into kcontrol
[09:05] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: yep
[09:05] <c0nv1ct> its under System at the bottom then
[09:05] <savor> DarkED: Under System Administration there will be a KDM Theme Manager in the list
[09:05] <DarkED> savor: yeah, just figured it out :) I was trying to find it in 'system settings'
[09:05] <intelikey> quick Q if i install nvidia-glx do i have to reboot to the older kernel before i can use it ?
[09:05] <DarkED> well thanks all, works now :)
[09:06] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: i would reboot, but you may be able to modprobe it
[09:06] <DarkED> Jucato: yes but KDE-look doesn't tell you that :) It tells you to install kdmtheme but not to use kcontrol. sorry my mistake
[09:06] <Jucato> DarkED: that's why I pointed you to that guide...
[09:06] <intelikey> and i have to change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf right ?
[09:07] <Jucato> intelikey: make sure that the linux-restricted-modules version for your kernel is installed, then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" should update xorg.conf for you
[09:07] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: if you installed the official nvidia drivers yes
[09:07] <DarkED> Jucato: yes, i see that now :) sorry
[09:07] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: and you have to disable nv too
[09:07] <Jucato> DarkED: ok. but anyway for feisty, KDM Theme will be under Appearance as well
[09:08] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: disable it from loading into the kernel that is
[09:08] <intelikey> Jucato that's what i was asking.  it installed an older kernel so i have to boot that kernel first ?
[09:08] <Jucato> c0nv1ct: he said nvidia-glx
[09:08] <Jucato> intelikey: it what?! O.o
[09:08] <intelikey> Jucato it down graded my kernel  ?
[09:09] <c0nv1ct> why are you going to use an older kernel?
[09:09] <Jucato> intelikey: why in the world did it do that? (or rather installed another kernel...). but anyway, you don't have to boot into the older kernel. just make sure that linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) is installed
[09:09] <intelikey> in installed    2.6.15-27-386   i'm running  2.6.15-28-386
[09:09] <c0nv1ct> you installed nvidia-glx from aptitude?
[09:09] <intelikey> Jucato there isn't one.
[09:09] <DarkED> hmm this is odd
[09:09] <Jucato> O.o
[09:10] <DarkED> I'm running beryl and it's showing "Window Menu" as part of the same button as "Minimize"
[09:10] <DarkED> why would it be doing that?
[09:10] <intelikey> wait i think i found one.
[09:10] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: try a different emerald theme, and see if it still does that
[09:11] <intelikey> so then why did installing nvidia-glx  depend on kernel and restricted  2.6.15-27-386    if an  2.6.15-28-386    exists ?
[09:11] <c0nv1ct> the repo might have an old version of nvidia-glx in there
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> which has deps for an older kernel
[09:12] <Jucato> c0nv1ct: you have dapper-security or dapper-updates enabled?
[09:12] <intelikey> i bet if i remove the 2.6.15-27-386 it takes nvidia-glx with it
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> Jucato: wha?
[09:12] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: yep, it's still happening
[09:12] <Jucato> er sorry, that was for intelikey
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> figured :)
[09:12] <intelikey> Jucato if that was at me.... yes
[09:13] <intelikey> sourses list has all three lines
[09:13] <kouran_> this wpa is trying my patience
[09:13] <intelikey> yeah me too.
[09:13] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: ok, I fixed it :) just had to reload Beryl as a window manager
[09:13] <Jucato> thanks... now you're infected w/ dandruff :D
[09:14] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: ah good, i figured something needed to be reloaded
[09:14] <DarkED> Jucato: when I try to go into kdmtheme admin mode so i can make changes the pass prompt never comes up
[09:14] <goddamnit> So I am running Kubuntu LiveDVD, and I want to DL the Ubuntu ISO. I mounted /dev/hdb2 so I have somewhere to DL it too, and now I need to give access to teh drive, so i can dl it
[09:14] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: yep, it usually does :) thanks
[09:14] <intelikey> beets what you just got
[09:14] <intelikey> :)
[09:14] <Jucato> DarkED: that's strange...
[09:15] <goddamnit> now i tells me that I access denied. could not write to /hdb2/etc.etc.etc.
[09:15] <goddamnit> Could not write to /hdb2/ubuntu-6.10-desktop... ...iso.part.
[09:16] <Jucato> doesn't the Live also contain the ubuntu-desktop package (Ubuntu)?
[09:16] <DarkED> hmm, it seems I cant go into admin mode on ANY page in kcontrol
[09:16] <DarkED> what teh eff? lol
[09:16] <intelikey> Jucato i had the same thing back at  2.6.15-23-386 and 2.6.15-24-386    had the 24 installed and checked the install for nvidia-glx and it said it would install the 23 kernel    so i aborted.   this time i went ahead and let it install the older kernel
[09:16] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: you broke kdesu :P
[09:16] <intelikey> Jucato yes it does
[09:16] <goddamnit> Jucato: Not sure how I would check... When I run the install, it does a direct install of Kubuntu.
[09:17] <Jucato> goddamnit: yes, then you can install Ubuntu/GNOME on top of that
[09:17] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: hehe did I ?
[09:17] <Jucato> the DVD contains KDE, GNOME, and Xfce afaik...
[09:17] <Jucato> DarkED: which version of Kubuntu?
[09:18] <goddamnit> Jucato: I dont want to have to go through the entire Kubuntu install (since its a DVD, it takes forever), I would prefer to do a direct Ubunu.
[09:18] <Jucato> ah. hm...
[09:18] <Jucato> DarkED: which version of Kubuntu?
[09:18] <DarkED> Jucato: it's Kubuntu 6.10, KDE 3.5.5
[09:18] <Jucato> hm...
[09:19] <intelikey> DarkED konsole    sudo echo yes
[09:19] <Jucato> DarkED: Ctrl+Esc, then look for kdesu processes and kill them. then try clicking on Administrator mode again
[09:19] <goddamnit> So how would I change access of /hdb2/ to rwx?
[09:19] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: you sure Beryl isnt using its 'focus stealing' prevention?
[09:19] <intelikey> DarkED if it says yes at you sudo is working  if not not.
[09:20] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: what filesystem and where is it mounted
[09:20] <intelikey> oh sorry forgot i was lagging.
[09:21] <goddamnit> c0nv1ct: /dev/hdb2(which is a linux3 filesystem) is mounted at /hdb2/
[09:21] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: ext3 you mean?
[09:21] <goddamnit> yea
[09:21] <DarkED> Jucato: okay, killed all kdesu processes and also kdesud and that didnt help
[09:21] <goddamnit> i couldn't remember the name
[09:21] <DarkED> let me try the other things
[09:21] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: did you mount it manually, or from fstab?
[09:21] <DarkED> intelikey: sudo says yes
[09:22] <goddamnit> c0nv1ct: I'm running from a liveDVD so I don't have access to the fstab, so manually.
[09:22] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: how do i turn off beryl's focus stealing?
[09:22] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: you can change permissions as root if you want, but you can also mount it with options to give users access
[09:22] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: its in beryl settings manager
[09:22] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: very first page that comes up
[09:22] <goddamnit> c0nv1ct:  I only plan to give access for the moment, until I burn the UbuntuCD and install it on hdb2
[09:23] <goddamnit> I would install it directly in the / filesystem, but since its a livedvd, it dont really ahve space.
[09:23] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: i would remount it with -o user option
[09:23] <kouran_> if i use wpa, do i need to do anything in System Settings> Network Settings?
[09:23] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: yeah, if it's in general settings I'm not seeing it :(
[09:23] <c0nv1ct> and use the UID of your normal user, to give it access
[09:24] <intelikey> DarkED ok   i think convict is on to it.  it's not kde it's not linux it's beryl giving you greef
[09:24] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: General Options, dropdown menu next to Level of Focus Stealing Prevention
[09:24] <goddamnit> How do I find my Uid?
[09:24] <Jucato> !uuid
[09:24] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:24] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: ahh found it
[09:24] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: it should be 1000 if its the first user you made
[09:24] <kouran_> if i use wpa, do i need to do anything in System Settings> Network Settings?
[09:25] <c0nv1ct> use 'id' command to find out for sure
[09:25] <c0nv1ct> stupid ubotu! we said UID not UUID!
[09:25] <intelikey> echo $UID
[09:25] <goddamnit> c0nv1ct: ok. I dont get most system options because its a livecd
[09:25] <DarkED> okay, I turned off focus stealing totally... it was set to low
[09:25] <DarkED> still no difference :(
[09:25] <goddamnit> Oh, my id is 999
[09:26] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: weird, i'd restart X and see if it works
[09:26] <CarinArr> DarkED: out of interest how are you starting kcontrol?
[09:26] <DarkED> CarinArr: from a launcher i made on desktop
[09:26] <goddamnit> Is there a way to just get into Root account on a Kubuntu box?
[09:26] <DarkED> CarinArr: want me to sudo it?
[09:26] <CarinArr> try starting it from a terminal
[09:26] <CarinArr> without sudo
[09:26] <CarinArr> and try to use administrator mode
[09:26] <goddamnit> Taht would make thsi all much easier.
[09:26] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: by default root password is scrambled, so you gotta use sudo
[09:26] <goddamnit> I thought so...
[09:26] <DarkED> CarinArr: haha it worked from a shell
[09:26] <CarinArr> DarkED: yeah same here
[09:27] <CarinArr> DarkED: no idea why, but i have the same problem, using beryl as well i might add
[09:27] <goddamnit> So now that I have my uid, whats the mount command? 'mount /dev/hdb2 /hdb2/ -o 999
[09:27] <goddamnit> ?
[09:27] <DarkED> I can't access 'System Settings' either
[09:27] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: i believe its -o user=999
[09:27] <c0nv1ct> but lemme check
[09:28] <DarkED> hmm, lemme restart X
[09:28] <DarkED> be back in a minute
[09:28] <CarinArr> well system settings is using the same stuff as kcontrol so that'd explain it, tho not "why"
[09:28] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: yeah, its user=, or owner= might work too
[09:30] <intelikey> ok one more question then.    does any of the restricted stuff need to be in the initramfs.img ?    cause it will make a new one but if i use it i'll have to put it on my boot disk
[09:31] <mrhonky> #ubuntu-de
[09:31] <intelikey> if not i'll just rm -fr /boot
[09:31] <DarkED> hmm, no change
[09:31] <goddamnit> Meh.
[09:31] <goddamnit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12295/
[09:31] <CarinArr> DarkED: are you running kiba-dock?
[09:31] <DarkED> CarinArr: let me check, but not that i know of
[09:31] <CarinArr> DarkED: you'd know if you were
[09:31] <CarinArr> ;)
[09:32] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: are you in the live cd or is it installed?
[09:32] <goddamnit> I'm on the liveDVD
[09:32] <DarkED> CarinArr: then no :)
[09:32] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: oh! you arent specifying a path to mount it too!
[09:32] <DarkED> this is becoming a problem, i cant run apps like Adept because they need a password
[09:32] <CarinArr> DarkED: not sure why but i just tried starting my systemsettings with a launcher and administration mode all of a sudden works fine
[09:32] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: do mount -o user=999 /dev/hdb2 /hdb2
[09:32] <goddamnit> Originally I was using mount /dev/hdb2 /hdb2/
[09:33] <goddamnit> oh, ok
[09:33] <DarkED> CarinArr: i'm starting mine with a launcher and it doesnt work :)
[09:33] <CarinArr> all the things using kdesu when starting up always worked for me, it was only the ones with butons to cick for administration mode that didn't
[09:33] <CarinArr> i'd get the red frame around the window
[09:33] <CarinArr> but no kdesu window came u
[09:33] <c0nv1ct> goddamnit: why exactly do you need to mount it anyway?
[09:33] <CarinArr> up too
[09:34] <DarkED> CarinArr: i get the red border around the window, but nothing ever happens
[09:34] <CarinArr> DarkED: yeah same as i did
[09:34] <CarinArr> no idea what i've done since i last tried it to make it work now tho
[09:34] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: how are you running kcontrol?
[09:34] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: i always run it with rightclick - run program
[09:35] <c0nv1ct> or run command i mean
[09:35] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: i'm running it from a launcher, but when i ran it from konsole it worked ok
[09:35] <DarkED> when i try to kdesu in konsole spat out all kinds of X errors
[09:36] <CarinArr> darked: like: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[09:36] <DarkED> CarinArr: thats exactly it
[09:36] <goddamnit> Head+Desk.
[09:36] <CarinArr> or something more serious?
[09:36] <c0nv1ct> that input device 169 thing is normal
[09:36] <Jucato> DarkED: ignore those
[09:37] <DarkED> okay then
[09:37] <CarinArr> DarkED: i get them for all kde applications even ones i don't have problems with
[09:37] <CarinArr> ;)
[09:37] <c0nv1ct> thats just saying the wacom drivers in xorg dont work, which it shouldnt unless you are on a tablet pc
[09:37] <DarkED> CarinArr: yeah me too :)
[09:37] <goddamnit> So I decided to sudo konquorer so I could just do the permissions on the folder I mounted it.
[09:37] <DarkED> i do get "QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image" a few times
[09:38] <intelikey> don't user sudo konqueror
[09:38] <c0nv1ct> yeah, always use kdesu when running gui apps
[09:38] <CarinArr> DarkED: actually, i just tried my kcontrol launcher and i still have the same problem
[09:39] <DarkED> CarinArr: good to see i'm not the only one. oh yeah, and my condolences :)
[09:39] <CarinArr> DarkED: however, if i copy /usr/share/applications/kde/systemsettings.desktop to my desktop, and use that to launch system settings administrator mode works fine
[09:39] <DarkED> so i cp it to /home/darked/desktop?
[09:39] <CarinArr> Desktop, yeah
[09:39] <CrypTom> Hi all, I deleted an entry in the "Internet" part of the K-menu, and from then on, all the entries in the "Internet"-part are sorted by their description and not by their name. How can I change this back to "normal sorting"?
[09:40] <goddamnit> !kdesu
[09:40] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:40] <DarkED> CarinArr: yep, it works now
[09:41] <DarkED> that is ODD
[09:41] <CarinArr> it is odd
[09:41] <DarkED> i wonder if there is a .desktop for kcontrol
[09:41] <CarinArr> there is, but that's the one i just tried and it didn't work;)
[09:41] <DarkED> CarinArr: aww crap :)
[09:41] <CarinArr> it's /usr/share/applications/kde/KControl.desktop
[09:41] <DarkED> for sake of argument lemme try it
[09:42] <matty123> Hi!
[09:42] <intelikey> which release are yall having this problem on ?
[09:42] <DarkED> intelikey: I'm on Kubuntu 6.10, KDE 3.5.5
[09:43] <CarinArr> same
[09:43] <DarkED> CarinArr: no dice, it didnt even copy anything to desktop :)
[09:43] <matty123> Has anyone used the dist upgrade tool to go from 6:10 to 7:04?
[09:43] <CarinArr> DarkED: indeed, tho you can see it in konqueror
[09:43] <intelikey> both with beryl ?
[09:43] <CarinArr> intelikey: yep here
[09:43] <DarkED> CarinArr: i just noticed something
[09:44] <DarkED> CarinArr: i cant see my root drive in konq
[09:44] <DarkED> all i can see is hda1 (NTFS windows drive) my external and my cdrom
[09:44] <DarkED> if i go to my home dir and up it, i can only see home and media
[09:44] <CarinArr> yeah that's default, you have to enable viewing hidden files or something
[09:44] <DarkED> ahh
[09:44] <matty123> going through the upgrade wizard, it says ready to close adpt and upgrade, i click finish and it does nothing
[09:44] <DarkED> yep, there it is :)
[09:45] <matty123> anyone else had this problme
[09:45] <intelikey> !hidden
[09:45] <ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[09:45] <CarinArr> eureka
[09:46] <DarkED> CarinArr: oddly enough, i dont have a kcontrol.desktop in /usr/share/applications/kde :)
[09:46] <CarinArr> i just got it working
[09:46] <DarkED> how?
[09:46] <intelikey> i did something that "hided" the dirs in /    i took the read access off of /  :)
[09:46] <CarinArr> one second, just have to figure out what did it
[09:46] <CarinArr> ;)
[09:46] <DarkED> :)
[09:47] <DarkED> teh awesome
[09:47] <c0nv1ct> CrypTom: go to your panel, right click and select Configure, and go to Menues
[09:47] <c0nv1ct> CrypTom: you can set the format it shows
[09:48] <matty123> does anyone else have a problem with the upgrade distro wizard?
[09:49] <intelikey> matty123 check in  #ubuntu+1
[09:49] <CarinArr> DarkED: i changed the last line in kcontrol.desktop and removed _kdebase
[09:49] <matty123> thank you
[09:50] <CrypTom> c0nv1ct: thanks, can I also set the ordering somewhere? Because I like: "Name (Description)", but not sorted by Description
[09:50] <c0nv1ct> CrypTom: you can sort it yourself if you edit the menu
[09:51] <DarkED> CarinArr: hmm... the one on desktop or the one in /usr/share ?
[09:51] <CarinArr> DarkED: the one i put on my desktp
[09:51] <DarkED> CarinArr: okay
[09:51] <CrypTom> c0nv1ct: ok, but thats annoying: if you edit an entry, it changes sorting to description!
[09:51] <DarkED> CarinArr: could you  pastebin your .desktop file for me since i dont have it?
[09:51] <CarinArr> tho strangely, after it worked once, it now works even if i restore the file to what it was originally
[09:52] <c0nv1ct> CrypTom: thats weird, it doesnt sort at all for me, if i put something at the top in the editor, it stays there
[09:52] <CarinArr> DarkED: hang on
[09:52] <CarinArr> !paste
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:52] <DarkED> CarinArr: thanks
[09:52] <CrypTom> c0nv1ct: I just found the bug, but no solution: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/48154
[09:53] <intelikey> CarinArr and DarkED perhaps if this same issue affects both the same and the cure works for both it would be a good idea to add a page or not on the wiki about it and the way you fixed it.   also filing a bug on it might be a good thing...    just a thought
[09:54] <intelikey> or not    or note
[09:54] <DarkED> intelikey: once he pastebins it ill try it
[09:54] <DarkED> intelikey: if it fixes me i'll write a wiki page
[09:54] <CarinArr> intelikey: good idea.. if we can figure it out properly;)
[09:54] <CarinArr> hang on
[09:54] <CarinArr> just going to restart x to check if it's an actual fix or just a glitchy one
[09:54] <CrypTom> c0nv1ct: you are right, if I change ordering, it stays
[09:55] <c0nv1ct> CrypTom: i like to remove descriptions too :)
[09:55] <c0nv1ct> CrypTom: and move it to Comments
[09:55] <CrypTom> c0nv1ct: I dont like messing around with the menu at all, but I had two identical entries, so I removed one and ended up with a changed ordering...
[09:56] <Black_Cat> Hello. I've installed Dapper Drake yesterday, it worked just fine, but now I can't boot it. The loading goes okay, I am shown an "absolutely no warranty" text screen, and then booting gfx-screen comes again with an empty progress bar, and it all halts. what can i do to fix this?
[09:57] <CarinArr> okay this majorly messes with my head
[09:57] <CarinArr> cause now it works with the original file
[09:57] <wouterh> Black_Cat: try to hit ctrl+alt+F1 en see what it says in the console
[09:57] <Black_Cat> wouterh, it prompts my login.
[09:58] <c0nv1ct> Black_Cat: or select safe mode at grub
[09:58] <CarinArr> DarkED: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12297/
[09:58] <CarinArr> DarkED: try that, but note that at first that didn't work for me
[09:59] <Black_Cat> c0nv1ct, i did that, but i dunno what to do when it wants input.
[09:59] <c0nv1ct> Black_Cat: you dont have to do anything, unless an error comes up
[09:59] <CarinArr> DarkED: if it doesn't work for you maybe we have a shot at figuring out what i did that actually made it work;)
[09:59] <nomad111> hey all im freaking out
[09:59] <nomad111> i cant boot kubuntu
[09:59] <Black_Cat> nomad111: join the club.
[10:00] <DarkED> CarinArr: i cant even get it to appear on my desktop
[10:00] <agan> !pastebin
[10:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:00] <nomad111> when i try to boot in recovery mode it says soft lockup on cpu#0
[10:00] <DarkED> CarinArr: the filename is kcontrol.desktop and it is in /home/user/Desktop
[10:00] <nomad111> and just stays there
[10:00] <DarkED> yet it does not appear
[10:00] <Black_Cat> c0nv1ct, no errors there, only a console input prompt.
[10:00] <CarinArr> DarkED: no, it still doesn't for me, but it works in konqueror now,
[10:00] <Black_Cat> it would be easier to presume something if i see any error
[10:00] <c0nv1ct> Black_Cat: then booting into normal should work
[10:01] <CarinArr> DarkED: figuring out why it doesn't appear on the desktop was my next step but it could be something as simple as the icon
[10:01] <Black_Cat> c0nv1ct, it doesn't.
[10:01] <nomad111> does any know what i can do
[10:01] <DarkED> CarinArr: yeah, it works in konq for me now
[10:01] <Black_Cat> c0nv1ct, seens like system forgets to switch videopage
[10:01] <Black_Cat> *seems
[10:02] <c0nv1ct> Black_Cat: very strange, its possible grub.conf got messed up, cuz if safe_mode works, normal mode should too
[10:02] <CarinArr> running "diff /usr/share/applications/kde/KControl.desktop /home/carina/Desktop/kcontrol.desktop" says they're exactly the same
[10:02] <Black_Cat> last thing i changed in previous session was splash screen, can it be the reason?
[10:03] <Black_Cat> c0nv1ct, i don't know much about safe_mode, should it be text-only? all i see is console screen there.
[10:03] <DarkED> CarinArr: yet it does not appear :)
[10:03] <DarkED> CarinArr: system settings did appear
[10:03] <c0nv1ct> Black_Cat: yeah, it should be text mode, just to show you a verbose boot to check for errors
[10:05] <DarkED> this is certainly a gremlin in the system
[10:05] <DarkED> i dont think i've ever seen such an odd bug
[10:05] <agan> i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12298/ when i try to remove compiz-core, how do i fix it?
[10:05] <CarinArr> DarkED: i can't for the life of me figure out why it works now when it idn't before
[10:05] <DarkED> CarinArr: only the Shadow knows ;)
[10:05] <will> Greetings - Iam trying to install the kubuntu using the upgrade tool
[10:05] <Black_Cat> okay, i'll try to reinstall, i'll need it anyway 'coz i'm placing new SP for win... another question: can i confiqure boot process so that fat32 partions are not checked? it takes TOO long, with "differences between boot and backup sector", i need that difference :)
[10:06] <will> it errors out when I try to add a new location in the tool to dnload beta 7
[10:08] <intelikey> Black_Cat /etc/fstab holds the settings for whether or not the fsck runs on any given mount.    last column  0 don't check  1 check
[10:09] <Black_Cat> intelikey, thanks a lot. and one more thing left to ask. i'm happy with a desktop-switching feature, makes it pleasant thing to migrate from win :) but, can i place a shortcut (link) on only one of desktops, not throughout all of them?
[10:10] <intelikey> Black_Cat i'm sure it can be done.  but i wouldn't know where to begin
[10:11] <Jucato> I'm sure it can't be done (currently)
[10:11] <Black_Cat> Jucato: are you aware is it planned or not?
[10:11] <will> thanks. I found the problem...me bad typing.. Thanks..
[10:11] <intelikey> i didn't say it would be easy.
[10:11] <Jucato> most probably planned... but for KDE 4
[10:12] <intelikey> but it can be done.   maybe adding it into the walpaper for that desktop...
[10:12] <Jucato> intelikey: how would that be "clickable"?
[10:12] <Black_Cat> it's not a win32 active desktop, i suppose
[10:13] <Jucato> the only way I could think of would be to use something like superkaramba... but might be overkill for the purpose...
[10:13] <Jucato> Black_Cat: you are correct. it isn't
[10:13] <Black_Cat> but i don't really need it, just wanted to be sure.
[10:14] <Black_Cat> thanks to all of you, see you later.
[10:14] <intelikey> Jucato i didn't say "here let me show you"   just saying that that technology is not new,  not by a decade  so i have no doubt that it can be done.   i also have no doubt that it would not be a point and click proccess to get it there....
[10:15] <Jucato> intelikey: I know what you're not saying. I'm just saying that it can't be done on KDE 3.5.x, not without hacks like superkaramba or some other thing
[10:16] <intelikey> yes now we are all saying the same thing.  possable but not easy.
[10:19] <intelikey> Jucato do you recall me asking (or ranting) about what was accessing the consoles at boot time?
[10:20] <intelikey> well i found a way to "deactivate them"  svgatextmode.
[10:21] <agan> i have strange problem, i was once installed nvidia driver, and it seems the installation is succes, and i can see nvidia splash screen, but when i reboot x wont start it said failed to load nvidia module
[10:23] <raffytaffy> morning
[10:25] <intelikey> raf
[10:25] <goddamnit> grr on labor laws
[10:26] <raffytaffy> so i tried out fluxbox however none ofmy externals would auto mount
[10:26] <raffytaffy> eh
[10:26] <intelikey> sounds like a good thing to me raffytaffy
[10:27] <raffytaffy> well depends on how you look @ it. i have my music on my externals...thus auto mounting them @ start up is a good thing
[10:27] <intelikey> setting up fstab would take care of that
[10:28] <raffytaffy> yeah i know:P i just love how kde automounts them
[10:28] <intelikey> thought you mean hot plug automounting
[10:28] <raffytaffy> no
[10:29] <goddamnit> gah, freebsd, here i come  (hopes it dont kill my box)
[10:31] <hiasll> hello, when I click on a mp3 file in kmail, the file will be opened with amarok instead of kaboodle. although i set it to kaboodle in the control center.
[10:32] <raffytaffy> hiasll : try this : right click on ANY mp3 file -> open with -> pick amarok
[10:33] <hiasll> raffytaffy: done already and set "remember application association for this type of file" but it doesnt change anything. the next time i click on a mp3 file it opens the file again with amarok
[10:34] <intelikey> raffytaffy ^ he's wanting kaboodle
[10:34] <raffytaffy> im sorry : i just woke up
[10:34] <raffytaffy> open with :kaboodle: then
[10:35] <hiasll> the only way to solve this problem is, to delete amarok, but this is not what i want.
[10:36] <intelikey> i'm not sure it's the only way to solve it either
[10:36] <raffytaffy> i would use amarok. if i didnt have a huge music collection with alot of id3 tags mislableled hehe
[10:41] <_4strO> yop yop
[10:41] <intelikey> isn't   "nvidia-glx-config enable"   supposed to do something to  /etc/X11/sorg.conf  ?
[10:43] <intelikey>    11. Close all your applications, then press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart the X server. If you
[10:43] <intelikey>        see an NVIDIA splashscreen after hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, your drivers are properly
[10:43] <intelikey>        installed.
[10:43] <intelikey> hehhe what if doing that command makes it give    (EE) No devices detected.
[10:43] <intelikey> Fatal server error:
[10:43] <raffytaffy> i wonder if speedstep is built into generic buntu kernels
[10:44] <intelikey> !nv
[10:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:44] <swaroop> hi, is the evolution connector plugin vailable for kubuntu? I am trying to use Linux at work and that means mails are on the MS Exchange server :(
[10:46] <intelikey> swaroop if it's in ubuntu it's in kubuntu  (as far as avalable goes)   cause they are the same thing.  just different default packages installed.
[10:46] <swaroop> intelikey: right, i tried to search on packages.ubuntu.com and got no results
[10:46] <swaroop> i was wondering if anyone had suggestions on some alternate repository or alternate solution
[10:47] <intelikey> possably but not that i'm aware of.
[10:47] <intelikey> evolution-exchange - Exchange plugin for the Evolution groupware suite
[10:47] <intelikey> !evolution-exchange
[10:47] <ubotu> evolution-exchange: Exchange plugin for the Evolution groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[10:48] <intelikey> evolution-scalix - evolution connector to scalix servers
[10:48] <intelikey> !evolution-scalix
[10:48] <ubotu> evolution-scalix: evolution connector to scalix servers. In component universe, is optional. Version 10.0.0.357-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 491 kB, installed size 1604 kB
[10:48] <intelikey> not what you are looking for   ?
[10:49] <sandro__> hi all .. on one of my harddrives there is some unused space .. now im using fdisk to create a new partition there .. on that harddrive is one (like 30% size) partition already ... fdsik asks me if i want to create a primary or extended partition .. i read up on wikipedia and i think i understood .. what i still DONT know whats the "linux way" if there is one .. i want only one more partition .. should i add another primary or an extended with a "full size"
[10:49] <sandro__> logical partition inside ?!
[10:49] <_Johny> hello to everyone. Where in Kubuntu is KDE theme manager? I can't find it in Kcontrol -->appereance
[10:49] <swaroop> intelikey: yippe, i think evolution-exchange is what i was looking for
[10:49] <swaroop> i was searching for 'connector' all along :)
[10:49] <intelikey> you're welcome
[10:49] <swaroop> thank you
[10:50] <_4strO> !feisty
[10:50] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:51] <intelikey> sandro__ primary or extended linux don't care.   now windows on the other foot does care.   will M$ be accessing it ?
[10:51] <sandro__> not at all
[10:51] <intelikey> then the choice is entirely yours
[10:51] <sdi> guten morgen alle
[10:51] <CarinArr> _Johny: you have to install kdmtheme, it's in universe
[10:52] <intelikey> shalom adi
[10:52] <sandro__> so if it makes no difference ill make it a primary to get (i already have /dev/sda1) a /dev/sda2 .. otherwise i would get a /dev/sda5 (if i understood correct) which i find confusing .. thank you!
[10:52] <sdi> hab mal ne frage und zwar hab ich mir kubuntu installiert und in konsolle geht su net
[10:53] <_Johny> CarinArr: Ah. So the theme manager doesn't come along with Kubuntu?
[10:53] <Lynoure> !de | sdi
[10:53] <ubotu> sdi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:53] <Lynoure> sdi: you can ask it in English here if you wish.
[10:53] <CarinArr> _Johny: nope (at least not on edgy)
[10:54] <_Johny> CarinArr: I didn't know that. Thanks
[10:54] <CarinArr> welcome:)
[10:56] <elias_> Could anyone please tell me which thing makes network activity leds (like in Window$) available in KDE?
[10:56] <mrigns> sdi: da?
[10:56] <_Johny> CarinArr: where's it gonna be put in Kmenu?
[10:56] <sdi> ja
[10:56] <mrigns> /join #sdihelp
[10:56] <CarinArr> _Johny: it's put in kcontrol
[10:58] <finn> heyahuuu i think something is wrong with my repositories the adept manager doesnt find anything at all.... does anyone know what i can do to solve the problem?
[10:58] <_Johny> CarinArr: Not yet I shall restart KDE..
[10:59] <finn> when i open source.list it also seems to empty :P
[10:59] <nomad111>  begging for help here
[10:59] <nomad111> i cant boot kubuntu
[11:00] <Agent_bob> ok i installed   nvidia-glx-legacy  according to the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto and did the  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable   so now x wont work  do i reconfigure xorg ?
[11:00] <nomad111> it says soft lock detected on cpu#0
[11:01] <nomad111> im desperately trying to grab my files of my ext3 partition but i can boot to kubunto so i cant do anything
[11:02] <ffffu> how to detect raid during kubuntu installation? it just hang at splash screen
[11:02] <nomad111> am i muted or can some1 hear me
[11:03] <posingaspopular> nomad111, ping.
[11:03] <posingaspopular> is that good enough?
[11:03] <nomad111> i want to shoot myself
[11:03] <nomad111> my assignment is on my ext3 partition and i cant boot to kubuntu
[11:04] <posingaspopular> uhh most people would advise against that
[11:04] <raffytaffy> nomad111: what is the issue
[11:04] <raffytaffy> ok ok
[11:04] <nomad111> when its at the kubuntu loading screen the one straight after grub
[11:04] <raffytaffy> when u say "cant boot" please elaborate further
[11:04] <nomad111> it just stops
[11:04] <raffytaffy> any specific errors
[11:05] <nomad111> i do boot into recovery mode
[11:05] <raffytaffy> nomad111: do u have the buntu live disk
[11:05] <nomad111> and i get: BUG: soft lockup detected on cpu#0
[11:05] <nomad111> yes
[11:05] <nomad111> can i repair from that
[11:05] <raffytaffy> well first thing is first
[11:05] <raffytaffy> u want to get your data yes?
[11:05] <nomad111> yes
[11:05] <nomad111> badly
[11:05] <raffytaffy> ok we can do that
[11:06] <raffytaffy> start your live cd.
[11:06] <nomad111> im in windows at the moment
[11:06] <raffytaffy> once youre in the desktop
[11:06] <DarkED> how do i get a fully-translucent konsole like you see in all the beryl screenshots?
[11:06] <raffytaffy> mount your /ext3
[11:06] <nomad111> yep?
[11:06] <raffytaffy> and grab it
[11:06] <nomad111> ok
[11:06] <raffytaffy> if u have a fat32 partition
[11:06] <nomad111> that sounds simple
[11:06] <nomad111> yes i do
[11:06] <raffytaffy> u can simply copy and paste it
[11:06] <nomad111> ill put it there
[11:06] <raffytaffy> yes
[11:06] <nomad111> wat about fixing kubuntu
[11:06] <raffytaffy> like i said
[11:06] <raffytaffy> one thing  @ a time
[11:07] <nomad111> so u want me to leave and do that now?
[11:07] <raffytaffy> yes please
[11:07] <raffytaffy> ill be here
[11:07] <raffytaffy> school work more important
[11:07] <nomad111> ok thx a lot i appreciate the help
[11:09] <sandro__> ugh
[11:09] <_Johny> I installed the "kdmtheme" package, but I still cannot find thememanager in Kcontrol...
[11:09] <sandro__> rereading of partition table after write to disk failed
[11:09] <sandro__> it seems i needa reboot
[11:09] <ffffu> how do u install kubuntu using the cd on a raid system? it just won't detect
[11:09] <ffffu> the hdd
[11:09] <sandro__> crosd fingers please
[11:10] <pectic> Hello
[11:10] <pectic> What is the canonical commercial repos?
[11:11] <raffytaffy> !sourceomatic
[11:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:11] <ffffu> !raid
[11:11] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:13] <_Johny> I installed the "kdmtheme" package, but I still cannot find thememanager in Kcontrol...
[11:13] <maki> Johny:did you run autoremove
[11:13] <maki> i have the same problem
[11:14] <maki> because i run auto remove
[11:14] <maki> try to upgrade
[11:14] <raffytaffy> _Johny : run kcontrol -> apperance and settings -> theme manager
[11:14] <finn> does anyone know where i can find the universe and multiverse reposituries... my sources.list is empty and i cant find the ones to get it functioning again
[11:14] <_Johny> maki: I ran only "autoclean" after having installed the kdmtheme package
[11:15] <raffytaffy> !sourceomatic | finn
[11:15] <ubotu> finn: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:15] <_Johny> raffytaffy: I know. But it isn't there
[11:15] <raffytaffy> _Johny try runing it as root
[11:15] <finn> thx raffy :D
[11:15] <raffytaffy> sudo kcontrl
[11:15] <_Johny> ok
[11:16] <_Johny> raffytaffy is right . It works from root
[11:16] <_Johny> raffytaffy: How come_
[11:17] <raffytaffy> security aspect i presume...yet mines works without root
[11:17] <raffytaffy> so i dont really know
[11:17] <raffytaffy> could be a bug perhaps
[11:17] <_Johny> I'll ask on #kde
[11:19] <eilker> !gtk > eilker
[11:20] <finn> thanks allot raffy.... great tip on the sourceomatik :D:D:D
[11:21] <raffytaffy> :)
[11:23] <finn> good thing this mirc channel hehe
[11:25] <CarinArr> L
[11:25] <CarinArr> uhm dunno where that came from
[11:25] <CarinArr> ignore me
[11:27] <_Johny> it's strange my kdmtheme isn't in Kcontrol. Now it's not running from terminal becouse of an error. Strange thing
[11:27] <badfish> this is a really intersting free application.  http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=28007&dl=3
[11:27] <CarinArr> you'd sort of expct a kdm theme manager to only be visible for root though
[11:27] <CarinArr> as it's a system wide thing, not "per user"
[11:28] <badfish> this is a really intersting free application.  http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=28007&dl=3
[11:28] <Jucato> badfish: please stop spamming
[11:28] <badfish> this is a really intersting free application.  http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=28007&dl=3
[11:29] <Jucato> he's just lucky...
[11:29] <_Johny> Yeah I agree but what about it's visibility in Kcontrol. I mean it should be at least clickable, next ask you for the adm password. Shouldn't it?
[11:29] <Jucato> _Johny: did you get what I said in #kde?
[11:29] <CarinArr> true i suppose, for consistency
[11:30] <Jucato> I'll say it again in here for CarinArr: on Kubuntu Edgy and earlier, you have to run KControl to get to KDM Theme Manager. That's fixed in Feisty (or else I'll poke people again)
[11:30] <_Johny> Jucato: now I'm not sure..
[11:31] <_Johny> Jucato: Ok. thank you I just thought somethinh was wrong with my system..
[11:31] <Jucato> nope. it was a bug. unfortunately, the fix also has a bug, so I'll need to poke someone again later anyway...
[11:32] <_Johny> Jucato: Ok. sorry becouse I didn't see you write on the other channel. I've just realized
[11:34] <CarinArr> _Johny: where are you looking for the kd theme manager?
[11:34] <CarinArr> kdm even
[11:34] <_Johny> in kcontrol but clicking on the "Kcontrol" button
[11:34] <CarinArr> and it's not under system administration?
[11:35] <_Johny> No, it isn't
[11:35] <tuco> Hello all, I need some help with Amarok please.
[11:35] <CarinArr> hang on, maybe i missed something, ar eyou using feisty?
[11:35] <_Johny> It runs only when running "sudo kcontrol" from the terminal, it crashed however and now doesn't run
[11:36] <Jucato> _Johny: are you sure you're running KControl and not System Settings? Alt+F2, "kcontrol"
[11:36] <_Johny> !ask|tuco
[11:36] <ubotu> tuco: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:36] <_Johny> Jucato: No. I must be wrong
[11:37] <Jucato> _Johny: K Menu -> System Settings  is not KControl
[11:37] <_Johny> Jucato: Now I know that
[11:38] <_Johny> what's the main difference?
[11:38] <Jucato> run them and see :)
[11:38] <tuco> OK Ok :-) there you go. Everytime I want the lyrics displayed in Amarok, I can't because it asks me to run a script manager, but when I want to do that it says:
[11:38] <tuco> Sorry...
[11:38] <tuco> You need one of QtRuby, RubyGTK or TkRuby to run this program
[11:39] <Jucato> System Settings is Kubuntu-only, so don't ask about it in #kde btw
[11:39] <_Johny> I get this error --> ERROR: Communication problem with kcontrol, it probably crashed.
[11:39] <_Johny> Jucato: Ok I won't
[11:39] <Jucato> :)
[11:39] <Jucato> hm...
[11:39] <tuco> So ok can I have one of QTRuby and the likes installed?
[11:39] <Jucato> _Johny: don't run it with sudo
[11:39] <Jucato> just plain "kcontrol"
[11:39] <Agent_bob> well i'll stop sending people to the wiki page on nvidia problems...  i've done everything on it and still no X ...
[11:40] <_Johny> It doesn't start from "alt+f2" as well
[11:40] <Jucato> Agent_bob: edgy or feisty?
[11:40] <Agent_bob> dapper
[11:40] <Jucato> ah :)
[11:40] <Jucato> what part are you stuck on?
[11:40] <Agent_bob> it not working   heh
[11:41] <Agent_bob> Fatal server error:
[11:41] <Agent_bob> no screens found
[11:41] <_Johny> Jucato: nothing seems to load but finally break and dissappear
[11:41] <Agent_bob> err just befor that  it said     (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:41] <Agent_bob> (EE) No devices detected.
[11:41] <Jucato> tuco: install the "ruby" package
[11:41] <Jucato> !pastebin | Agent_bob
[11:41] <ubotu> Agent_bob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:42] <Jucato> Agent_bob: hm.. ok checklist... did you install the linux-restricted-modules version that matches the kernel that you are using?
[11:42] <_Johny> Jucato: should I reset KDe?
[11:42] <Agent_bob> Jucato yes
[11:42] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[11:42] <olimpico> I have a USB Memory Stick with an emulated Floppy Partition, and a normal partition. It fails by gentoo & Ubuntu, and it works without problems in Windows.
[11:43] <Jucato> Agent_bob: btw, which driver are you installing? nvidia-glx or the one from nvidia.com?
[11:43] <tuco> Which one Jucato? In adept there are zillions of Rubies!
[11:43] <vyoman> can't print urgent letter after upgrading to beta 7.04
[11:43] <vyoman> error is: cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found
[11:43] <Agent_bob> nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:43] <Jucato> tuco: I already gave the name. "ruby"
[11:43] <Jucato> vyoman: try #ubuntu+1
[11:43] <vyoman> no time to look through the bug list, anyone can help out ?
[11:43] <vyoman> cool thanks
[11:43] <_Johny> !feisty|vyoman
[11:44] <ubotu> vyoman: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:44] <Jucato> Agent_bob: ah your card is legacy?
[11:44] <Agent_bob> yes
[11:44] <Jucato> what card is it, btw?
[11:44] <Agent_bob> "NVIDIA / SGS Thomson (Joint Venture) Riva128"
[11:45] <Jucato> ah. what command did you use to enable it?
[11:45] <Agent_bob> the one for dapper on the wiki
[11:45] <Agent_bob> nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:46] <Jucato> hm... I think that one's for nvidia-glx only... let me check
[11:46] <cotyrothery> hey eveyone
[11:46] <raffytaffy> who is the guy with the printer problem
[11:46] <raffytaffy> vyoman
[11:46] <Jucato> vyoman:
[11:46] <_Johny> vyoman:
[11:46] <vyoman> yep
[11:46] <Agent_bob> also modprobed nvidia-agp
[11:46] <tuco> It seems Ruby is already installed, but still I get the same message!
[11:46] <raffytaffy> Create a CUPSD certificate (as reported by another customer) with the command
[11:46] <raffytaffy> 'openssl req -new -x509 -keyout /etc/cups/ssl/server.key -out /etc/cups/ssl/server.crt -days 365 -nodes'
[11:46] <the-erm> I'm trying to set up a wireless usb device, it scans just fine, finds the connection no problem, but it doesn't connect at all.  Any help would be appreciated.  I'm using now encryption.
[11:47] <raffytaffy> Update to the current version of CUPS (a fix for the certificate problem appears in the version history of CUPS
[11:47] <Agent_bob> jucato also modprobe nvidia-agp
[11:47] <Jucato> Agent_bob: did you try manually editing your xorg.conf as suggested in the wiki?
[11:47] <vyoman> raffytaffy: i need to get this letter done in the next 20min can you help,
[11:47] <Agent_bob> yep
[11:47] <raffytaffy> vyoman  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[11:48] <Jucato> Agent_bob: hm.. I don't know if this command would work: "sudo nvidia-xconfig", then restart X
[11:48] <Agent_bob> tried dpkg-reconfigure several times too  with and without frame buffer
[11:48] <Agent_bob> -su: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[11:48] <Jucato> ah.. :(
[11:49] <Agent_bob> well i might as well uninstall glx cause if Jucato and intelikey can't get it to work....
[11:50] <vyoman> raffytaffy: thanks for the link but i don't want to file a bug report, not time (yes the printer is detected, yes the printer works, yes it used to work on edgy)
[11:50] <eilker> !idle
[11:50] <ubotu> idle: An IDE for Python using Tkinter (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 76 kB
[11:50] <vyoman> i have to bite the bullet and ask my neighbour to use his windows machine &^%&(%
[11:50] <raffytaffy> have you ran "gnome-cups-manager"
[11:50] <raffytaffy> and added the printer
[11:50] <Jucato> vyoman: try adding a new printer with exactly the same settings as the formerly working one.
[11:51] <Agent_bob> Jucato thanks for walking through the check list with me...   i was hopping there was something i missed.
[11:51] <vyoman> Jucato: ok
[11:55] <cotyrothery> were is the off topic kubuntu
[11:55] <cotyrothery> anyone know
[11:56] <Jucato> !offtopic | cotyrothery
[11:56] <ubotu> cotyrothery: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:56] <tuco> Arrrrgh! Ruby is installed and yet I can't still run my lyrics scripts damned!
[12:06] <frojnd> hello, where some information what updates have been made to this moment for feisty ( apt-get udpate, upgrade..)
[12:06] <frojnd> where are
[12:08] <vyoman> added printer again and crashed the  machine
[12:08] <frojnd> and how can I run some application, that I get output? application -caption "%c"  ??
[12:18] <skup> Hello all. Have you, like me, an authentification error when you try to connect kopete (or amns, or tmcnc) on MSN ?
[12:33] <raffytaffy> i made a #kubuntu-kernel help channel for help with kernel compiles
[12:33] <raffytaffy> we will see if it will work
[12:37] <dex> prova
[12:39] <dex> ciao
[12:40] <eilker> !kdeapp
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdeapp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <eilker> !kdeapps
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdeapps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <jack_> hi where do i find a little to do app that counts days until a task deadline is reached?
[12:43] <jack_> like toodoo in superkaramba but that doesnt work for the current vs. any more
[12:43] <gae> hi, I was trying to compile the Domino Theme, but I keep on getting an error I think is connected to the absence of a library I dunno of
[12:43] <gae> any idea?
[12:44] <gae> I pretty much installed any lib in the desktop manual for kubuntu
[12:45] <rbrunhuber> gae: I already walked one through this process
[12:45] <eXistenZ> I see a folder of my mounted drive on my desktop, but when I open ~/Desktop. I cannot find any file/link. How can I delete that instance?
[12:46] <rbrunhuber> gae: Are you familiar with pastebin?
[12:47] <gae> sort of yes
[12:47] <gae> I can hanlde pastebin, it's the before that I may not be so witty
[12:47] <fannagoganna> can i copy the contents from someone's /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged directory?
[12:47] <fannagoganna> i need those so that kcontrol will work properly
[12:48] <gae> I see where you're going to, you want me to post the makefile log so you can take a look
[12:48] <rbrunhuber> gae: I'll need a lot of copys of build output from you so fire up a browser with pastebin.
[12:48] <rbrunhuber> gae: I normally need the make output AND the make log.
[12:48] <gae> unfortunately I have to disappear now...will I find you here in say...couple of hours time?
[12:49] <gae> maybe I'll contact you in pvt so we don't flood the page
[12:49] <rbrunhuber> i'll work till 20 o'clock middle european summer time (dunno know what this is in utc)
[12:49] <gae> of course for tutorial purposes you can take the log of our convo and paste it wherever you want
[12:50] <gae> I'm GMT+1
[12:50] <gae> be back later
[12:50] <rbrunhuber> gae: me too
[12:50] <gae> IT
[12:50] <rbrunhuber> De
[12:52] <frojnd> I can't play video with opera: http://www.elite-videos.com/?video=217   When I click on a black screen opera says that I have to install plugin for windows media player.. I don't have windows media player. What can I do to play this video?
[12:54] <qsu> guys where can i find a good tutorial for upgrading from edgy to feisty for "kubuntu"
[12:54] <eXistenZ> How can I remap keys in Kubuntu?
[12:55] <jack_> hi where do i find a little to do app that counts days until a task deadline is reached?
[12:55] <jack_> like toodoo in superkaramba but that doesnt work for the current vs. any more
[12:55] <mackyman> eXistenZ: Kmenu->System settings->keyboard and mouse
[12:56] <mackyman> Ops... eXistenZ: it was:  Kmenu->System settings->Regional & language
[12:56] <Jucato> qsu: Feisty is currently at beta. are you sure you want to upgrade now?
[12:56] <mackyman> jack_: Does it have to count the days left=
[12:57] <tempsanity> hi, ive got an important question, i have a removable external drive where I keep my xfce and I need to add an executable flag to this drive - i do this by a script - sudo  mount -o remount,rw,nosuid,nodev,exec,sync /media/disk-1 - but i need to run it everytime i start the system - can i somehow add it to autostart before the xsession starts or something?
[12:58] <qsu> yes i am Jucato
[12:58] <mackyman> jack_: KOrganizer have a to-do list atleast, I haven't checked it out too much thou
[12:58] <jack_> mackyman: yea sth similar
[12:58] <Jucato> qsu: Test edgy->feisty upgrade https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[12:58] <qsu> lol @ Jucato your comment looks like vista's uac
[12:58] <qsu> ahahah
[12:58] <qsu> thanks
[12:58] <KiPSeRoN> somone can help me my amule work good but show all in white the searches in white i cant read anything with it somone know how to fix that
[12:58] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[12:58] <Jucato> qsu: uac? btw, that link is in the channel /topic
[12:59] <mackyman> Jucato: Is there said if Kubuntu 7.04 will be released at the same time as ubuntu 7.04?
[01:00] <Jucato> mackyman: it always is
[01:00] <mackyman> kk, haven't checked out it too close
[01:00] <mackyman> =)
[01:00] <mackyman> 3
[01:00] <mackyman> 23 days to go =)
[01:00] <Alberto> hello to all people!
[01:00] <mackyman> Heya
[01:00] <KiPSeRoN> somone can help me my amule work good but show all in white the searches in white i cant read anything with it somone know how to fix that?
[01:01] <qsu> oke thanks Jucato, let me first boot into a newer kernel
[01:01] <Alberto> Can I ask for install usb device problem?
[01:01] <KiPSeRoN> Jucato:
[01:01] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[01:02] <frojnd> I can't play video with opera: http://www.elite-videos.com/?video=217   When I click on a black screen opera says that I have to install plugin for windows media player.. I don't have windows media player. What can I do to play this video?
[01:02] <Jucato> KiPSeRoN: sorry, don't know
[01:02] <KiPSeRoN> in shell
[01:02] <KiPSeRoN> its give me error
[01:02] <KiPSeRoN> Initialising aMule
[01:02] <KiPSeRoN> Checking if there is an instance already running...
[01:02] <KiPSeRoN> No other instances are running.
[01:02] <KiPSeRoN> Loading temp files from /home/kipseron/.aMule/Temp.
[01:02] <KiPSeRoN> All PartFiles Loaded.
[01:02] <KiPSeRoN> ListenSocket: Ok.
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> External connections disabled in config file
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> *** Server UDP socket (TCP+3) at 0.0.0.0:4665
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> *** TCP socket (TCP) listening on 0.0.0.0:4662
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> *** Client UDP socket (extended eMule) at 0.0.0.0:4672
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> Empty dir /home/kipseron/.aMule/Incoming/ shared
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> Shutting down aMule...
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> aMule dialog destroyed
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> Now, exiting main app...
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> aMule OnExit: Terminating core.
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> aMule shutdown completed.
[01:03] <Jucato> !pastebin | KiPSeRoN
[01:03] <ubotu> KiPSeRoN: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> No protocol specified
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly
[01:03] <KiPSeRoN> this is the error
[01:03] <Alberto> Can I ask how to install Conexant-Access Runner modem usb in kubuntu?
[01:04] <Jucato> KiPSeRoN: next time, use a pastebin
[01:04] <KiPSeRoN> ok
[01:04] <Jucato> !modem | Alberto
[01:04] <ubotu> Alberto: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:04] <KiPSeRoN> you know how to fix it
[01:04] <KiPSeRoN> !killme
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <KiPSeRoN> Jucato:
[01:04] <Alberto> Jucato I have Conexant-Access Runner modem usb. How to install?
[01:04] <Jucato> no I don't know, because I don't use amule
[01:04] <KiPSeRoN> you know how i can fix it
[01:04] <KiPSeRoN> so what you use
[01:04] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[01:05] <Jucato> Alberto: try checking that web page
[01:05] <Jucato> KiPSeRoN: nothing. I don't use those
[01:05] <Alberto> No dial-up. Is adsl.
[01:05] <Jucato> !adsl
[01:05] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:05] <Jucato> Alberto: then that one?
[01:06] <Alberto> I check the link and I come back. thanks guys
[01:07] <Alberto> No. my is Is PPPoA
[01:07] <Jucato> aw...
[01:08] <raffytaffy> hi Jucato
[01:09] <Jucato> hi raffytaffy
[01:09] <Jucato> Alberto: sorry no idea about pppoa
[01:09] <raffytaffy> i created kubuntu-kernel room here on freenode for kernel specific problems
[01:09] <sredna> which package contains the kde color chooser?
[01:10] <Alberto> Jucato. thanks!
[01:10] <Jucato> sredna: is it kcoloredit?
[01:10] <sredna> yes
[01:10] <sredna> i found it
[01:10] <sredna> ty :)
[01:10] <Jucato> raffytaffy: yeah I saw that... not sure, but there's an #ubuntu-kernel already
[01:10] <Jucato> sredna: no problem :)
[01:10] <Jucato> raffytaffy: just don't know if it's for users or devs..
[01:10] <Jucato> (or both)
[01:11] <raffytaffy> well perhaps ppl with kde can stop by. afterall we rely more on xconfig
[01:11] <raffytaffy> as the gnome ppl use menuconfig
[01:11] <raffytaffy> well users and devs can stop by. im not picky :P
[01:11] <raffytaffy> my area of is the kernel so i can help ppl compile and whatnot
[01:12] <sredna> Jucato: i remember the command being 'kcolorchooser'
[01:12] <sredna> ah, this is not the right one
[01:12] <Jucato> oh hm....
[01:12] <sredna> the palettes are missing
[01:12] <sredna> an it's painting is broken
[01:13] <sredna> but it has a drop picker
[01:13] <Jucato> sredna: maybe a kicker applet?
[01:13] <sasq> kubuntu doesnt detect my usb-cardreader.... anyone knows why?
[01:13] <sasq> its completly standard
[01:13] <sredna> Jucato: in real kde, there is a very nice little utility for that
[01:13] <sredna> named kcolorchooser
[01:13] <sredna> i wonder where it got lost in the debian system
[01:14] <Jucato> sredna: hm... I'm not familiar with it but I might have run into it before...
[01:14] <apokryphos> there's kcoloredit
[01:14] <Jucato> sredna: websvn.kde.org says kcolorchooser.cpp is under kcoloredit...
[01:15] <Jucato> kdegraphics/kcoloredit/kcolorchooser.cpp ?
[01:15] <sredna> ah, it installed that too
[01:15] <sredna> better
[01:15] <sredna> the other thing is useless for me
[01:15] <Jucato> :D
[01:15] <Jucato> it think the other one (kcoloredit) is for making palettes...
[01:16] <sredna> yes
[01:16] <sredna> i use the other thing for making CSS sheets and sometimes KDE color schemes
[01:19] <sasq> anyone? dmesg says nothing, device-manager says nothing. I can connect an usb cdrom-drive no problem but not this device (a sweex memcard reader) - and it works perfect on my older gentoo system
[01:19] <raffytaffy> Jucato: i like the "search" feature in xconfig. where u dont have to go thru that huge list to find specific options
[01:21] <Jucato> raffytaffy: ah... I personally have only compiled my kernel once...
[01:21] <raffytaffy> ahh ok
[01:21] <raffytaffy> its my hobby
[01:21] <raffytaffy> im trying to get it better and better
[01:21] <raffytaffy> some say im insane
[01:25] <[pyro] > !kiba-dock
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <xushi> how do you change a font color for gtk apps ?
[01:26] <xushi> i know how to change the font itself, with .gtkrc-2.0, but font color? that's new to me
[01:31] <raffytaffy> Jucato: when does a room show up in the chan list?
[01:31] <Jucato> which list?
[01:31] <raffytaffy> the channel list
[01:31] <raffytaffy> like the one for freenode
[01:32] <Jucato> er I don't know... :/
[01:32] <raffytaffy> ok peace:)
[01:39] <qsu> Jucato: did you do an upgrade to feisty already
[01:43] <Contrast> What's up, everyone?
[01:43] <qsu> anyway, i am following the wiki how to upgrade from edgy to feisty however the upgrader does not start
[01:44] <Contrast> Does anyone here know of a good program for making covers for CD and DVD cases?
[01:45] <chode> Contrast, i know nero has one..
[01:45] <Gvlaskop> But in kde?
[01:45] <qsu> anyone did an upgrade from edgy to feisty
[01:46] <Contrast> Nero's Windows only though, except for the part of it that only burns discs.
[01:46] <Gvlaskop> does Nero work on kde/
[01:46] <DarkED> conky rocks
[01:46] <chode> Contrast, i used nero on linux
[01:46] <chode> it's not windows only
[01:46] <Contrast> chode: The full suite, or just the burning rom?
[01:46] <Gvlaskop> so it must work!
[01:46] <chode> full suite
[01:47] <chode> i think.. was some time back.. also in gnome
[01:47] <Contrast> Hmm... Because I read just a few months ago that the only thing Nero has made for Linux was the burning ROM.
[01:47] <chode> gave me too much trouble burning cds.. so i started using the ones already ubuntu offered for free
[01:48] <qsu> anybody did an upgrade from edgy to feisty ??
[01:48] <Contrast> I've tried Kover and KoverArtist, but neither will do DVD cases.
[01:48] <raffytaffy> yes
[01:48] <raffytaffy> i did qsu
[01:49] <Gvlaskop> Not yet i am trying to put two program`s on the same hard disk
[01:49] <Contrast> raffytaffy: How'd it go?
[01:50] <raffytaffy> Contrast: what i did was installed a second edgy next to this one. and updated it right of the bat..went flawless
[01:50] <gae> hi guys, I was looking for help in compiling Domino desktop Theme
[01:50] <Contrast> So MMV if it wasn't a clean install of Edgy. Hmm...
[01:50] <gae> I tried to install every lib in kubuntu desktop manual
[01:51] <gae> but I still get an error and the compiling doesn't finish
[01:51] <qsu> raffytaffy: oke well i want to upgrade this edgy install
[01:51] <qsu> raffytaffy: however the updater is not starting
[01:51] <raffytaffy> does it spit any errors @ u?
[01:53] <Gvlaskop> For working on 7.04 you have to try to work and jabber on #xubuntu.
[01:55] <chode> Contrast, GTK CD Label    i think this will do
[01:55] <chode> K CD Cover Creator   also another one for kde
[01:56] <Contrast> chode: Are those in the repos, or will I have to compile?
[01:57] <neil> Got a bit of a problem, downloaded a huge ISO on kubuntu, but I need to use it on my ntfs xp install (dual booted)
[01:57] <neil> as linux cant write ntfs, and xp cant read ext3, how can I get it over ?:/
[01:57] <gae> I need some help in compiling a tarball, I have installed all the libs listed in the kubuntu desktop manual, but I still get an error in the makefile process
[01:57] <chode> Contrast, i searched thru source forge i dunno if that';s available in repos
[01:58] <Contrast> chode: Thanks. I'll check those out.
[01:58] <Contrast> They both do DVD cases as well as CD cases?
[01:58] <neil> any ideas?
[01:59] <chode> no info on that.. aptitude search gave me a couple of cover designers.. i'll have to install and check them my self
[01:59] <chode> i too need a cover designer
[02:00] <Contrast> chode, AFAIK, all the cover designers in the official repos don't do DVD cases.
[02:00] <neil> Would making a new fat32 partition help?
[02:01] <qsu> raffytaffy: yes it does
[02:01] <qsu> can't load DistUpgradeViewKDE
[02:01] <qsu> error: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/kparts.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11konsolePart8setPtyFdEi
[02:01] <neil> I can't remember how to make partitions if anyone could help there :D
[02:01] <chode> neil, linux can read/write ntfs
[02:01] <neil> it can write ntfs?
[02:01] <neil> I thought that was experimental
[02:02] <chode> also windows windows can read ext3 with the help of some progs... i use explore2fs
[02:02] <gae> ntfs is included in edgy
[02:02] <chode> neil, ntfs-3g released a stable version
[02:02] <neil> I have edgy...
[02:02] <gae> you can mount, browse and modify ntfs with no trouble
[02:02] <neil> Its 100% safe now?
[02:02] <chode> this month or last month.. dun remember
[02:02] <neil> cool
[02:03] <neil> How do I get the stable version, or would it have auto-updated?
[02:03] <chode> neil, i use ntfs-3g.. looks fine to me
[02:03] <raffytaffy> qsu try : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[02:03] <raffytaffy> i found your bug also
[02:03] <raffytaffy> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/84717
[02:03] <chode> neil, get the ntfs-3g repos.. and it'll update ur pmount and install ntfs-3g driver
[02:03] <Contrast> chode, just so you know, those two you mentioned don't do DVD cases. Thanks anyway though.
[02:03] <gae> I believe that synaptic autoupdates it, I had no problem in trasferring temp files from eMule to aMule
[02:03] <neil> thanks :)
[02:03] <chode> also get ntfs-config
[02:05] <eXistenZ> What are the kio_file instances?
[02:05] <neil> I've added ntfs-3g, but I dont see ntfs-config, chode
[02:05] <raffytaffy> dont kill those eXistenZ
[02:05] <raffytaffy> lol
[02:06] <eXistenZ> neil: try to run it from the terminal
[02:06] <eXistenZ> neil: kdesu ntfs-config
[02:06] <chode> neil, wait i'll get u a link
[02:06] <eXistenZ> chode: maybe this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[02:07] <neil> ta
[02:07] <raffytaffy> offtopic suggestion -> cool tux pictures -> http://tux.crystalxp.net/
[02:08] <eXistenZ> raffytaffy: Can you send me a screenshot of your desktop? (or upload online)
[02:08] <raffytaffy> ok
[02:08] <raffytaffy> one sec
[02:09] <anatema> hi all
[02:09] <chode> man, my connection is so slow.. i'm still waiting for a page to load
[02:10] <chode> it's been like 5 minutes now and nothing
[02:10] <neil> hehe :D
[02:11] <raffytaffy> eXistenZ ->  http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot21fo9.png
[02:11] <neil> I've added the ntfs-3g package, but not entirely sure what changes its made :)
[02:11] <neil> I guess I can just mount my ntfs as read/write now?
[02:11] <eXistenZ> neil: Did you run ntfs-config?
[02:11] <neil> Nope I don't have that yet
[02:11] <eXistenZ> neil: ntfs-config will do the configurations (e.g. in /etc/fstab)
[02:11] <eXistenZ> neil: Did you install the package?
[02:11] <qsu> yes raffytaffy: but i do not understand how i can solve this bug
[02:12] <raffytaffy> try updating with apt-get dist upgrade maybe?
[02:12] <zorglu_> q. is there an ubuntu channel for people doing multimedia stuff ?
[02:12] <neil> I'm in ubuntu at the moment, what is the kdesu equivalent?
[02:12] <neil> :D
[02:12] <eXistenZ> neil: gksu
[02:12] <neil> I haven't installed ntfs-config, its not in the repositories
[02:12] <neil> thx
[02:13] <eXistenZ> raffytaffy: xchat and gaim?
[02:13] <neil> nah not found, ill have to install it
[02:13] <raffytaffy> yes hehe
[02:13] <eXistenZ> raffytaffy: why not kopete and konversation?
[02:13] <raffytaffy> will u be mad if i tell u i dont like those?
[02:14] <eXistenZ> raffytaffy: not really. I use xchat, though in windows
[02:14] <eXistenZ> Konversation is just an xchat parody
[02:14] <raffytaffy> you should check out irc-rage...now thats a cool irc client
[02:15] <eXistenZ> but it is good
[02:15] <eXistenZ> kopete is nice
[02:15] <eXistenZ> with its webcam and kopetex plugin
[02:15] <neil> chode: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1872
[02:15] <neil> is this it?
[02:15] <exceswater> hi all
[02:15] <exceswater> howdy ?
[02:16] <raffytaffy> http://www.rage-irc.com/
[02:16] <chode> neil, man ask eXistenZ to check that for ya.. i'm still waiting for the link eXistenZ gave me to check
[02:16] <chode> lol
[02:16] <neil> hehe
[02:16] <eXistenZ> raffytaffy: http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4809/sscs9.png
[02:16] <exceswater> raffytaffy: how can i install it ?
[02:16] <exceswater> i have kubuntu
[02:16] <exceswater> and i am kinda noob
[02:16] <raffytaffy> rage has .debian packages
[02:17] <raffytaffy> look on the linux downloads
[02:17] <raffytaffy> http://www.rage-irc.com/
[02:17] <exceswater> yes...
[02:17] <eXistenZ> neil: ntfs-config works just as you install ntfs-3g
[02:17] <eXistenZ> neil: It just auto-configures your /etc/fstab to work with ntfs-3g
[02:18] <neil> ah so it's already done?
[02:18] <eXistenZ> neil: go to the terminal and run 'gksu ntfs-config'
[02:18] <chode> eXistenZ, some times it requires a restart i think.. mine did tell me can't unmount the device busy... so i had to restart
[02:18] <neil> it returns command not found
[02:18] <chode> or alteast umount manually
[02:19] <DarkED> ntfs-3g isn't working with my external but it did before I reinstalled Kubuntu the other day
[02:19] <DarkED> do i need to reboot to make it work?
[02:19] <eXistenZ> neil: Did you install ntfs-3g?
[02:19] <raffytaffy> or you can add this to your repolist ->   deb http://pomac.netswarm.net/rage ./    and find "rage"
[02:19] <chode> DarkED, i was talking to neil hehe sorry
[02:19] <neil> eXistenZ: yeah
[02:19] <eXistenZ> neil: 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-config'
[02:20] <neil> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-config
[02:20] <neil> no go :(
[02:20] <chode> neil, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009   <--- follow this
[02:20] <DarkED> chode: yes i know, but i just installed ntfs-3g myself and am having an issue :)
[02:20] <chode> eXistenZ, gave u that link b4
[02:20] <neil> thanks guys :)
[02:21] <DarkED> neil: did you do a sudo apt-get update after you added the repo?
[02:21] <chode> DarkED, did u did and update after u added ntfs-3g repos
[02:21] <chode> it will update pmout
[02:21] <DarkED> chode: ntfs-3g is already installed, so is pmount
[02:21] <chode> pmount*
[02:21] <joaquin> done estan los espaole
[02:21] <DarkED> yeah, i got the pmount update
[02:22] <neil> Missing the repository, think thats the issue :)
[02:22] <neil> cheers guys, back in a bit probably hehe
[02:22] <DarkED> it works with my windows drive but not my external
[02:22] <chode> DarkED, try unmounting the external.. and remount it again
[02:22] <QWERTY> ??
[02:23] <DarkED> chode: already done that five times :)
[02:23] <chode> sorry DarkED may b one of these more experienced guys can help u
[02:24] <DarkED> chode: it's cool, thanks
[02:28] <bentob0x> what's that .created_by_pmount file in /media/usbdisk/?
[02:36] <brad2101> hey all
[02:37] <brad2101> hows everyone finding 7.04?
[02:41] <exceswater> hi all
[02:41] <exceswater> i have a question
[02:42] <exceswater> i installed some games from adept manager
[02:42] <exceswater> and they are not in my games menu
[02:43] <exceswater> how can i put them there ?
[02:47] <chijin> 7.04 works perfectly for me
[02:48] <busfahrer> Hi. I have installed Kubuntu via Ubuntu, is there any way of cleaning out the Start Menu of entries that wouldnt be there if I installed Kubuntu directly?
[02:50] <chode> busfahrer, some time back i did the same and came across some blog explaining how to do that
[02:50] <chode> so there is a way
[02:50] <busfahrer> chode: And of course you bookmarked it :-D
[02:51] <chode> busfahrer, lol.. back then yes.. but now i'm on a clean installed kubuntu
[02:51] <chode> so i dun have it now
[02:51] <busfahrer> chode: Thanks for the pointer, got something now
[02:52] <KiPSeRoN> somone know how to change font color in gtk
[02:52] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[02:53] <polly1> Hello what does it mean when a package status is BROKEN (installed)
[02:54] <KiPSeRoN> that mean that cant get it from the source
[02:55] <Jucato> polly1: try doing whatever you're trying to do in the command line (apt-get) and you will get error messages
[02:55] <polly1> KiPSeRoN: So it isn't going to "BREAK" my setup?
[02:55] <KiPSeRoN> no
[02:55] <polly1> Ok.. Thanks.
[02:55] <Jucato> it will if you push through with it
 that mean that cant get it from the source <--- no this isn't correct
[02:56] <KiPSeRoN> ok \
[02:56] <polly1> I had 70 upgrades in adept and it stopped with a broken message.
[02:56] <KiPSeRoN> sorry
[02:56] <Jucato> polly1: does it already say BROKEN or just BREAK?
[02:56] <Jucato> polly1: try doing it using apt-get. "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:56] <polly1> Jucato: It said broken.  I am attempting the upgrade again with adept.
[02:56] <polly1> Jucato: It appears to be doing some installs now.
[02:56] <Jucato> polly1: try with apt-get. adept doesn't give much error messages
[02:57] <polly1> Jucato: After this completes the files I'll go to apt-get and see if it tells me anything more.  I could use some assistance though I am not very familiar with apt-get.
[02:59] <polly1> BTW: How often do you see updates of multiple packages a week?  I've been using kubuntu for about 2-3 weeks now and noticed quite a bit of updating.  Is this due to feisty release soon?
[03:00] <polly1> or do they just update package on the list regularly?
[03:00] <Jucato> polly1: are you on feisty?
[03:00] <polly1> Jucato: Yes.  Feisty.
[03:01] <polly1> Jucato: It appeared to recognize my hardware better then the 6.10 version.
[03:01] <Jucato> polly1: ah. you should know that Feisty is still in beta, thinks can still break once in a while, and that daily updates are regular
[03:01] <polly1> Jucato: They are doing a great job.  I've had very few proplems so far. (I hope that continues)
[03:02] <Jucato> :)
[03:03] <Jucato> polly1: if you experince problems, such as broken packages or upgrades, try confirming using apt-get, then ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:03] <polly1> Jucato: What are the commands I am going to type for apt-get?
[03:04] <rolando> hi
[03:04] <polly1> apt-get upgrate   (something like that?)
[03:04] <rolando> what is the command to open a website in a new tab in konqueror?
[03:04] <polly1> or update
[03:04] <Jucato> polly1: "sudo apt-get update" is the same as Adept's Fetch Updates. "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is the same as Full Upgrade
[03:05] <polly1> Jucato: What is a full upgrade?  What does that upgrade opposed to the update?
[03:05] <Jucato> Full Upgrade in Adept
[03:05] <Jucato> that's the same thing you do when you use Adept Updater
[03:06] <polly1> Jucato: So would I type both in?
[03:06] <chode> polly1, "apt-get --help"
[03:06] <Jucato> update = check for updates, new packages, updated packages, etc. "refreshes" your package list
[03:06] <Jucato> polly1: update first before dist-upgrade
[03:06] <polly1> chode: Thank you.
[03:06] <polly1> Jucato: Thank you.
[03:06] <untouch> wich command is to copy a whole folder in an other one ? i tryed cp folder/ /folderofdestination
[03:07] <polly1> untouch: would it be mv (move)?
[03:07] <untouch> no i dont want to move i just want to copy
[03:07] <polly1> Oh...
[03:08] <voorhees86> any body can help, i install kubuntu, and mi system frozeen on a black screen
[03:08] <chode> unix_infidel,   cp -r /folder /anotherfolder
[03:08] <Jucato> untouch: cp -r folder_source/* folder_destination/
[03:08] <chode> untouch, *
[03:08] <untouch> thanks u 2
[03:08] <Jucato> hm.. I think the * might be unnecessary... but..
[03:09] <untouch> voorhees86: a real freeze or can u get in the terminal
[03:09] <voorhees86> real, i just have access to terminal, acroos the security mode
[03:10] <voorhees86> i try everything and i dont have sucess
[03:11] <untouch> am annoying
[03:13] <grahf> hello
[03:13] <grahf> i'm new 'round here
[03:20] <voorhees86> help me please
[03:21] <shinigami> hi i really need some help with a wireless card linksys wmp54g v4.1.. iwlist wlan0 scan can list the wireless network but when i try to access my wireless, it just couldn't..tried everything, nothing wrong with ssid or key
[03:21] <cotyrothery> oh no
[03:22] <shinigami> dmesg shows rt61pci->rt61pci_init_bbp: Error - BBP register access failed, aborting.
[03:22] <cotyrothery> i completly wiped out my hole system
[03:22] <cotyrothery> what do i do now
[03:22] <shinigami> anyone knows what kind of module i need for this card?
[03:22] <cotyrothery> please help me
[03:23] <cotyrothery> I now have no operatiing system
[03:23] <chijin> reinstall it
[03:23] <cotyrothery> i wish it was that easy
[03:23] <cotyrothery> While tring to install kubuntu it erased windows
[03:24] <cotyrothery> No all i have is a none operating computer
[03:24] <cotyrothery> running off of the live cd
[03:24] <cotyrothery> Please i need help
[03:25] <cotyrothery> Now not only can i not get kubuntu to run or install correctly on my computer it completly erased everything i had on my computer
[03:25] <chijin> so you want your windows back or what?
[03:25] <chode> cotyrothery, did u read what diskpartion said??
[03:25] <cotyrothery> I just want my computer at this poiint to have a os
[03:25] <cotyrothery> yes
[03:26] <cotyrothery> i tolled it to install on slave
[03:26] <chode> *partinioner
[03:26] <mrand> Is there a particular place to look for more info when a package won't install cleanly?
[03:26] <ubuntu> hello
[03:27] <cotyrothery> so im guessing i did not wipe out windows
[03:27] <cotyrothery> it just the boot
[03:27] <ubuntu> hi
[03:27] <tyger> hello room
[03:27] <ubuntu> estj tut russkie
[03:27] <cotyrothery> So what should i do
[03:27] <cotyrothery> I'm really scared
[03:27] <mrand> By that, I mean is there a bugs.ubuntu.com or something where my problem might be listed with a workaround?
[03:27] <ubuntu> ???
[03:28] <fdoving> mrand: there is bugs.ubuntu.com yes.
[03:28] <mrand> fdoving: ok.  thanks.  I'll look there.
[03:28] <Hobbsee> !bugs
[03:28] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:28] <Hobbsee> mrand: which package?
[03:28] <cotyrothery> Does anyone know what i should do?
[03:29] <shinigami> !dos2unix
[03:29] <cotyrothery> I cant reinstall windows because i dont have the CD
[03:29] <fdoving> !grub
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos2unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:29] <mrand> Hobbsee: vmware-player won't install cleanly
[03:29] <shinigami> what's the package containing dos2unix?
[03:29] <fdoving> cotyrothery: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:29] <Hobbsee> mrand: feisty?  want to pastebin the error?
[03:29] <cotyrothery> what is that going to do for me
[03:29] <LjL> !find dos2unix | shinigami
[03:30] <cotyrothery> I did not install windows
[03:30] <shinigami> ???????/
[03:30] <ubotu> shinigami: File dos2unix found in tofrodos
[03:30] <LjL> shinigami: bot was slow
[03:30] <mrand> Hobbsee: it's an error in the network config perl script that runs at the end, I think.  I'm guessing it may have something to do with iptables, but I really have no idea.
[03:30] <LjL> install tofrodos
[03:30] <cotyrothery> i had windows installed on my main drive then when i tried to install kubuntu on my slave drive it erased windows
[03:30] <mrand> Hobbsee: an no, it's edgy
[03:30] <shinigami> ty vv much
[03:30] <qsu> anybody good with beryl
[03:30] <Hobbsee> qsu: #ubuntu-effects
[03:31] <Hobbsee> mrand: ahh.  no idea, i dont run edgy
[03:31] <qsu> yes i am there but noboy seems to be around at this moment
[03:31] <cotyrothery> Is it grub
[03:31] <cotyrothery> is that what messed up my system
[03:31] <mrand> heheh.  "Microsoft has a majority market share" is a critical bug. :-)
[03:31] <tyger> the latest feisty upgrade broke google earth; an suggestions?
[03:32] <LjL> it did? let me see
[03:32] <shinigami> anybody can help with rt61 drivers?
[03:33] <LjL> tyger: it starts and seems to basically work, here. how's it broken for you? just doesn't start?
[03:33] <LjL> i'm using the medibuntu package
[03:33] <tyger> LjL:i get the splash screen, then it freezes, i have to kill the process to shut it down.
[03:34] <BluesKaj> Morning all ....COFFEE! :)
[03:34] <tyger> cream no sugar pls.
[03:35] <LjL> tyger, did you install the medibuntu package or the generic binary from google.com? i'd try with the package
[03:35] <cotyrothery> can someone give me steps on how to recover my system
[03:35] <LjL> tyger: (uninstall the google binary first, if the installer has such an option)
[03:36] <tyger> LjL: i used the generic binary.  worked very well until the upgrade.  I'll d/l medibuntu and try it.
[03:36] <LjL> !medibuntu
[03:36] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[03:36] <BluesKaj> Cheers! mrand :)
[03:36] <qsu> tyger how did you do the upgrade to feisty
[03:36] <mrand> :-)
[03:36] <tyger> qsu:adept
[03:37] <BluesKaj> !fiesty
[03:37] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:37] <qsu> but did the upgrader started
[03:37] <qsu> cause i tried it today but the upgrader program is not starting
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> qsu: did you follow all the directions?
[03:38] <mrand> How do the versions go?  What is the codename for stable/unstable/testing etc?  I mean, is Feisty newer than Edgy, for instance?
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> it won't start until you restart adept, then update
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> mrand: feisty is 7.04, edgy is 6.10
[03:38] <mrand> Daisuke_Ido: oic.  and what was 6.06 then?
[03:38] <qsu> well yes, its saying that i have to close adept when the upgrader program starts
[03:38] <qsu> but it never does Daisuke_Ido
[03:39] <Jucato> mrand: it's not like Debian's stable/unstable/testing setup. there are just stable and development
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> version numbers are based on release dates, and there's not really any "testing" or "unstable" like debian
[03:39] <mrand> Oh, ok.
[03:39] <tuco> Help guys. I need to know how to install QTRuby or TKRuby or
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> 6.06 is dapper, the current long-term support release
[03:39] <mrand> FWIW, I'm coming from a gentoo paradigm.
[03:39] <Jucato> mrand: version numbers = year + month. 7.04 = 2007-04
[03:39] <mrand> Jucato: gotcha.  good to know
[03:39] <cotyrothery> so am i screwed
[03:39] <Jucato> Feisty Fawn, Edgy Eft, etc. are just "codenames"
[03:39] <tuco> In Amarok as I can't run any lyrics script
[03:40] <Daisuke_Ido> qsu: not sure, it should start automatically after adding the upgrade repo, updating, upgrading what you need, restarting adept, updating again
[03:41] <mrand> Is upgrading from Edgy to Feisty fairly straightforward?  Or is it advisable to do a fresh install?
[03:41] <BluesKaj> mrand,Edgy 6.10 is the latest stable "official release"
[03:41] <Jucato> mrand: when feisty is released as stable, there will be a new upgrade tool that will automate the upgrade process from Edgy to Feisty
[03:42] <mrand> Jucato: oh, ok.
[03:42] <mackyman> 23 days left =)
[03:42] <Jucato> mrand: so hopefully this will lessen the need for reinstalling (as some people do each release)
[03:42] <skioski> hi can any1 help me install nvidia drivers
[03:42] <Daisuke_Ido> you can try the upgrade tool now, but it's beta in the most serious sense
[03:43] <mrand> Jucato: yeah.  though I suppose there may be some advanges to doing a fresh install each time.  Perhaps if only for the fact that there will really and truly be no cruft lying about.
[03:43] <Daisuke_Ido> !nvidia > skioski
[03:43] <BluesKaj> was checking out the fiesty auto installer/upgrader yesterday ...looks really quite simple...hope it's bug free
[03:43] <Jucato> BluesKaj: you can help make it bug free by testing it :D
[03:43] <Jucato> (and of course reporting problems)
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: it's certainly not bug free (that's what beta means.), but it works, for the most part.  i had a few issues (which i reported) with it crashing on cleanup
[03:44] <Jucato> mrand: true, but that will then be a choice on the user's part, because he wants to, not because the regular upgrade process broke his system
[03:44] <BluesKaj> yeah , was tempted but I still have some video codec probs with some players, and I din't want to drag those probs along
[03:45] <Daisuke_Ido> vlc, nuff said.
[03:45] <mrand> Jucato: sounds like a good way of doing things, then
[03:45] <mackyman> The problem to understand with Fiesty for me is, I don't really know what culd be improved that isn't non-ubuntuheld packages ;)
[03:45] <mrand> keeps options open but makes things simple
[03:45] <BluesKaj> VLC let me down , Daisuke_Ido , mostly on websites containing using windows media content
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, yeah, it's not going to help with streaming wmvs
[03:46] <BluesKaj> otherwise VLC is very versatile , I agree
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> mackyman: a lot of things are getting upgrades, including the move to kde 3.5.6, i think it's nearly kde4-ready, compositing is enabled by default, universe and multiverse repos are enabled by default...
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> the list is actually pretty long
[03:47] <mackyman> Nice =)
[03:48] <BluesKaj> <-- bit of a video user , not a 'phile by any means but I do some burning etc
[03:48] <raffytaffy> Daisuke_Ido : composition by default...any option to turn it off?
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> it's enabled in xorg, not on
[03:48] <raffytaffy> ahh ok
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> but it makes installing beryl a little simpler
[03:48] <mackyman> I have just tried to install Gentoo and Debian other than ubuntu... And ubuntu is really sweet compared to those two
[03:48] <Jucato> mackyman: if you've been following the Herd and Beta announcements in http://kubuntu.org/announcements you'll find out more
[03:49] <Daisuke_Ido> raffytaffy: i do, but it's fairly low-key
[03:49] <Daisuke_Ido> fade on minimize/restore, slight wobble
[03:49] <BluesKaj> Gentoo is a "linux purst" distro in the sense that it's almost totally a "hands on" install
[03:50] <mrand> How do I search for a package?  I'd like to know the apt way and the packages.ubuntu.com way if they exist.
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> i mainly use it for the awesome expose-like and task switching features
[03:50] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[03:50] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> mrand: in adept, just search :)
[03:50] <mrand> I didn't see the apt way in the apt manpage. :-/  Maybe I was looking for the wrong thing.
[03:50] <Jucato> mrand: apt-get search <packagename> or http://packages.ubuntu.com or Adept Manager or apt:/ in Konqueror (one of my favorites)
[03:51] <mrand> Daisuke_Ido: I find that adept doesn't list every package that I can get from the console.  I don't know why that is.
[03:51] <root___> Hello
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> that's odd
[03:51] <mrand> yeah
[03:51] <Jucato> mrand: it does.
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> root___: you might not want to do that.
[03:51] <mrand> guarddog firewall wasn't in adept
[03:51] <pollyo> I just updated and now it appears my xconfig may be trashed.
[03:52] <pollyo> my system appears to boot but the screen goes black.
[03:52] <mrand> but it was available via apt-get install ...
[03:52] <Jucato> mrand: you might be referring to Add/Remove Programs (Adept Installer)
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> pollyo: updated from
[03:52] <mrand> Jucato: I am..
[03:52] <Jucato> mrand: that's not Adept Manager :)
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> adept manager :)
[03:52] <mrand> Jucato: oic
[03:52] <mrand> thanks
[03:52] <Jucato> mrand: in Adept Installer, you'd have to check the "unsupported" and "proprietary" checkboxes to display universe and multiverse stuff
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> pollyo: can you get to a tty?
[03:53] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: I used adept but I also attempted to use apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:53] <mrand> Jucato: I did check them, actually.
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> nvidia?
[03:54] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: I am on the machine now I booted in recovery mode and logged in under root where it said control-d to continue or root password
[03:54] <Jucato> mrand: ah I see... it's a bit buggy though..
[03:54] <mrand> there is no official vmware-workstation package for edgy?
[03:54] <Jucato> you can't even find kword..
[03:54] <Jucato> mrand: nope. since you have to pay for it
[03:54] <mrand> :-(
[03:54] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: I have an olde nvidia tnt2 or something like that.
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[03:55] <Jucato> only vmware-player is in the repos, and vmware-server can also be installed. both are free (as in price only)
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> i had the same issue, but with a newer nvidia card
[03:55] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: From a command line what do I type to reconfigure my xserver incase those settings got trashed?  any idea?
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> try reconfiguring xserver-xorg
[03:55] <mrand> It is hard to say no to free beer
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:56] <BluesKaj> Jucato,  sudo apt-get search pkgname, gives me an error :(
[03:56] <mrand> even if they won't give you the recipe for it.
[03:56] <pollyo> ok. Let me try that.  bbl
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> and use the "nv" driver, and turn off "dri" and "glx"
[03:56] <Jucato> BluesKaj: don't use sudo
[03:56] <Jucato> BluesKaj: oh my bad
[03:57] <Jucato> BluesKaj, mrand: apt-cache search <packagename>
[03:57] <Jucato> sorry :)
[03:57] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:57] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:57] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Thank you.  BBL
[03:57] <mrand> Jucato: ok, thanks
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> wow
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> is BitchX still being developed?
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i would have thought b this point irssi would have taken over the console irc niche
[04:01] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, too many ppl used to using mirc with weblinks etc ..irssi is nice when yer in a bind and can't get back into X :)
[04:01] <cotyrothery> Nothing i do works
[04:02] <cotyrothery> Does someone know what i should do. I tried to install kubuntu but it erased windows and does not work now
[04:02] <BluesKaj> cotyrotheryy, what are you trying to do ?
[04:03] <cotyrothery> I installled kubunttu but when i restarted it said i had no operating system
[04:03] <cotyrothery> so it had also erased windows
[04:03] <cotyrothery> i tried to install it on my slave drive
[04:03] <cotyrothery> so i dont know why windows does not work
[04:04] <cotyrothery> so does anyone know what i should do
[04:05] <cotyrothery> I really need help
[04:05] <BluesKaj> so you have no boot menu ?
[04:05] <cotyrothery> no
[04:05] <cotyrothery> nothing
[04:05] <cotyrothery> just a message that says no operating system
[04:05] <BluesKaj> did you partition your drive pervious to the install ?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> previous
[04:05] <cotyrothery> yes i did it on my slave dirve
[04:06] <cotyrothery> drive
[04:06] <cotyrothery> so it should not have over writen windows
[04:06] <BluesKaj> ext ?
[04:06] <cotyrothery> hmm...
[04:07] <cotyrothery> what?
[04:07] <cotyrothery> I'm really begging to beleive that there is no hope
[04:07] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: oh, i know, i personally love irssi, especially when it's the only option
[04:07] <BluesKaj> did the install go right thru asking you differnt set up questions etc ?
[04:07] <cotyrothery> no
[04:07] <cotyrothery> yes
[04:07] <cotyrothery> I dont remember
[04:08] <cotyrothery> i dont think it asked any questions
[04:08] <cotyrothery> It just went straight through the install
[04:08] <BluesKaj> cotyrothery, it looks like all you did was wipe the MBR (bootloader) for windows, and that's all .
[04:08] <cotyrothery> good
[04:08] <cotyrothery> so what do i do
[04:09] <BluesKaj> reinstall MBR ...sorry i've forgotten the command in dos ...anyone remember ? Jucato ?
[04:10] <cotyrothery> how do i do that
[04:10] <Jucato> BluesKaj: for windows?
[04:10] <cotyrothery> In dos?
[04:10] <BluesKaj> yeah
[04:10] <BluesKaj> in windows
[04:10] <BluesKaj> same thing
[04:10] <Jucato> Boot into the CD, choose Recovery mode, then "fixmbr"
[04:10] <cotyrothery> how do i get to dos if i can get windows to boot
[04:10] <cotyrothery> i dont have the windows cd
[04:10] <cotyrothery> This is a used computer
[04:10] <BluesKaj> can you get to the prompt?
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't have a windows cd at all?\
[04:10] <chijin> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[04:10] <cotyrothery> no
[04:11] <cotyrothery> How would i get to prompt?
[04:11] <cotyrothery> and i have no cd
[04:11] <raffytaffy> !debootstrap
[04:11] <ubotu> debootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB
[04:11] <raffytaffy> !debootstrap howto
[04:11] <BluesKaj> then supergrub is it , download it and reinstall the bootloader, then you can repartition the drive to linux ext
[04:12] <chijin> i've ran supergrub many times with success, when the mbr was lost :-)
[04:12] <chijin> i can recommend it
[04:13] <cotyrothery> how will i do that
[04:13] <cotyrothery> were do i get it
[04:13] <BluesKaj> good, I have it but never used it ...hope i don't need to
[04:13] <chijin> burn the supergrup image to a disc
[04:13] <cotyrothery> i dont have a burner
[04:13] <cotyrothery> great im screwed
[04:14] <cotyrothery> So what options do i have?
[04:15] <cotyrothery> I dont have a burner
[04:15] <cotyrothery> and i dont have the windows cd
[04:15] <cotyrothery> is there another why of fixing my bootloader
[04:15] <chijin> go to your friends house and burn the disc, or use a flash drive with the super grub image
[04:16] <cotyrothery> none of my friends have one either
[04:16] <elight> super grub image?
[04:16] <elight> on the Ubuntu cd?
[04:17] <pollyo> Hello
[04:17] <cotyrothery> Hold on
[04:17] <chijin> elight: no
[04:17] <cotyrothery> i do have a flash drive
[04:17] <pollyo> I updated on feisty and now my system will not start up.  Should I try ubuntu or does anyone here have an idea?
[04:17] <cotyrothery> would a 1 gb sony memory stick be a flash drive
[04:17] <cotyrothery> I could use my PSP
[04:17] <chijin> cotyrothery: then find out if your machine is able to boot for an usb drive
[04:17] <cotyrothery> as a flash drive
[04:17] <cotyrothery> ok
[04:17] <cotyrothery> it can
[04:17] <cotyrothery> I saw the option in the bios
[04:17] <chijin> pollyo: it's probably your graphics driver that's messed up
[04:18] <cotyrothery> so there is hope
[04:18] <Daisuke_Ido> pollyo: switching to nv didn't help?
[04:18] <pollyo> chijin: Ok.  I did dpkg-reconfig for xerver-xorg but that didn't do anything.  What might be something else to look at?
[04:18] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[04:18] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Didn't appear to.
[04:18] <cotyrothery> Were should i get this image
[04:18] <chijin> pollyo: what card is it?
[04:19] <pollyo> chijin: I believe it is a tnt2 or something like that.  It is an old card.
[04:19] <chijin> pollyo: if nv for nvidia card doesn't work, try vesa
[04:19] <cotyrothery> chijin were do i get super grub
[04:19] <chijin> cotyrothery: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download
[04:19] <cotyrothery> thanks
[04:19] <chijin> i already pasted the link once, like 5 minutes ago :-p
[04:19] <pollyo> chijin: Under kde it was reporting dv in the video information.
[04:20] <cotyrothery> then i just save it to my psp
[04:20] <cotyrothery> and have my psp pluged in at start up
[04:20] <cotyrothery> and it should be able to detect it
[04:20] <chijin> cotyrothery: nope. download it, find out what the device address for your psp is, then do 'dd if=image.iso of=/dev/yourdevice' and boot from it. be careful with it though
[04:21] <pollyo> Does the xserver have a log file that it would dump if there were an error starting up?
[04:21] <chijin> cotyrothery: i have no idea how a psp works as an usb drive though
[04:21] <cotyrothery> why should i be careful
[04:21] <LjL> pollyo: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:21] <cotyrothery> it is a mass storage device
[04:21] <peaker> Hi. adept tried to upgrade, but my wifi network died in middle, and then download failed - and it tried to upgrade *anyhow*
[04:21] <pollyo> Thank you.  Let me go check that log.
[04:21] <ubuntu> hi  people
[04:21] <peaker> and it screwed up my system
[04:21] <chijin> cotyrothery: you might wipe out your hard drive if you use the wrong device
[04:22] <cotyrothery> it is drive G:\
[04:22] <peaker> Do download failures still not impede upgrade/install attempts in apt/adept?
[04:22] <ubuntu> please hepl me to install wine
[04:22] <mackyman> pollyo, have you used the nvidia legacy driver?
[04:22] <chijin> cotyrothery: it's not drive g in linux :-P
[04:22] <ubuntu> please hepl me to install wine
[04:22] <cotyrothery> oh
[04:22] <peaker> because its dangerous :(
[04:22] <ubuntu> please hepl me to install wine
[04:22] <ubuntu> in ubuntu
[04:22] <peaker> Also, all of /etc/network/interfaces  the wireless options I have in there are being completely ignored when my wifi usb is plugged in
[04:22] <raffytaffy> !wine | ubuntu
[04:22] <ubotu> ubuntu: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:22] <peaker> and it doesnt set anything up according to the options in there
[04:23] <peaker> This is all old kubuntu stuff, maybe they were fixed, but I doubt it :(
[04:23] <ubuntu> thx
[04:23] <LL_Hakaisou> jeeze wtf is going on..
[04:23] <LL_Hakaisou> question:  is there a way to select which output ALSA uses on a soundcard?
[04:25] <ubuntu> i need driver for nvidia 5200
[04:25] <ubuntu> i need driver for nvidia 5200
[04:25] <LjL> !nvidia
[04:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:25] <LjL> use the ones from the repositories. they work fine.
[04:25] <mackyman> Job is done... Time to get home! Cya
[04:25] <LjL> just "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and then "sudo nvidia-xconfig enable", if i remember correctly, and you should be set
[04:26] <peaker> LjL: that's the latest drivers from nvidia? or the 'nv' one without accels?
[04:26] <ubuntu> i for the frist time on linux
[04:26] <KaoticEvil> LjL: that didnt work for me
[04:26] <neil__> Nor me
[04:26] <LjL> peaker: "nv" is installed by default, so i mean the proprietary ones from nvidia. however, they're not the *latest* ones
[04:26] <neil__> I had to do mine manually from nvidia.com
[04:26] <ubuntu> but i like it
[04:26] <KaoticEvil> i used envy
[04:26] <LjL> well, i have a 5200 and they worked in Dapper, worked in Edgy, and work in Feisty...
[04:27] <LL_Hakaisou> How do i configure the channel on a soundcard that Kubuntu is outputting to?
[04:27] <neil__> I have a 7800gt tho, seem to be lots of problems with that card
[04:27] <KaoticEvil> LjL: did you use the upgrade tool?
[04:27] <LjL> *and*, contrary to ones installed awkwardly, they don't break on kernel updates ;)
[04:27] <LjL> KaoticEvil: nope
[04:27] <LjL> just dist-upgraded
[04:27] <KaoticEvil> oh...
[04:27] <ubuntu> how to use terminal program
[04:27] <LjL> !cli
[04:27] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:27] <peaker> Does wifi work in edgy? It doesnt work out-of-the-box in dapper
[04:27] <cotyrothery> ok i have super grub on my psp
[04:27] <KaoticEvil> LjL: the upgrade tool broke my nvidia drivers lol
[04:28] <cotyrothery> now how do i get it to start it
[04:28] <LL_Hakaisou> !alsa
[04:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:28] <BluesKaj> !wifi
[04:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:28] <jim88> hi all ... I am having a monitor screen issue .. ever since I did an adept update yesterday my screen has been out of wack ... it is streched and I cannot find how to readjust it back to normal size it say 1024x768 and I am using KDE on Dapper
[04:28] <chijin> cotyrothery: access your bios with psp attached, and make it use it as the first boot device
[04:29] <chijin> cotyrothery: the super grub itself is pretty straight forward
[04:29] <chijin> cotyrothery: if you can boot it..
[04:29] <neil__> I just installed a new gdm theme, but its at the wrong resolution...
[04:29] <neil__> any one know how to change that?
[04:29] <neil__> its stretched half off of my screen...
[04:29] <BluesKaj> jim88, 1024x768 is a normal size
[04:29] <peaker> do you guys know if /etc/network/interfaces' wireless options are respected or ignored in edgy?
[04:29] <neil__> The default resolution in xorg.conf is set to the correct one, everything else is fine
[04:29] <cotyrothery> ok
[04:29] <cotyrothery> first i have to extract it
[04:30] <cotyrothery> how do i get it to extract
[04:30] <peaker> currently in dapper: I need to use iwconfig _manually_ to get my wifi to work in kubunutu :(
[04:30] <cotyrothery> its in a gz zip file
[04:30] <jim88> BlesKaj I know but I am having the same problem as neil_
[04:30] <chijin> cotyrothery: 17:20:56 <chijin> cotyrothery: nope. download it, find out what the device address for your psp is, then do 'dd if=image.iso of=/dev/yourdevice' and boot from it. be careful with it though
[04:30] <cotyrothery> how do i do that
[04:30] <cotyrothery> In a comand prompt?
[04:31] <chijin> cotyrothery: type 'mount' in konsole and see what the address is
[04:31] <chijin> cotyrothery: yes, command prompt
[04:31] <cotyrothery> ok
[04:31] <premier_> Im having some trouble with the kicker
[04:31] <chijin> cotyrothery: it'll erase your psp totally
[04:31] <cotyrothery> but i cant get it to extract
[04:31] <chijin> cotyrothery: you don't have to extract the iso file..
[04:32] <cotyrothery> no
[04:32] <cotyrothery> it is in a gz file
[04:32] <chijin> ah
[04:32] <BluesKaj> !resolution
[04:32] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:32] <chijin> cotyrothery: then right click it and extract
[04:32] <cotyrothery> i did
[04:32] <cotyrothery> but it gives me an error
[04:33] <cotyrothery> it says
[04:33] <jim88> BluesKaj you said that the resolution was correct but the screen is streched out will that resolve it? I think it was the update
[04:33] <cotyrothery> Unknown error code - 1210467620
[04:33] <chijin> well i have no idea
[04:33] <ackbahr> Hello! I don't know why knetworkmanager suddenly stopped starting with KDE, but it did; and I'd like it to again! I remember there's a "startup" list somewhere, but I don't know where.... Who could help? Thanks!
[04:34] <mrand> Where does one change the debconf frontend?
[04:34] <premier_> I was playing around with it, and I added the sidebar, and then I tried to add an amarok button, but there was already an amarok button, so I just hung.  I crashed it using alt-ctrl-esc, and the entire kicker disappeared
[04:36] <premier_> I couldnt get the kicker to restart from the terminal ("Kicker is already running") so I logged out and logged back in.  Now, the kicker is using 100% cpu even though I removed every single kicker applet, and it accesses the hard drive every second or so
[04:36] <chijin> cotyrothery: so why didn't you just install kubuntu? if you have a partition set for installation, why not just install and fix the windows after that?
[04:36] <cotyrothery> ok i got it to extract
[04:36] <cotyrothery> hmm...
[04:36] <cotyrothery> i did install kubuntu
[04:36] <cotyrothery> but it did not work
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> meh.  amarok crashed.  killed the process and now it won't restart
[04:37] <chijin> cotyrothery: doesn't work, as on doesn't start, hangs on boot, or what?
[04:37] <chijin> as in*
[04:37] <N|ghtwo|f> how can upgrade from 6.10 ?
[04:38] <cotyrothery>    ok
[04:38] <cotyrothery> i just typed in mount and got a lot of drives
[04:38] <cotyrothery> at least i think there drives
[04:38] <Jucato> N|ghtwo|f: from 6.10 to 7.04? Edgy to Feisty?
[04:38] <N|ghtwo|f> yes, its in topic sorry
[04:39] <chijin> cotyrothery: does any one look like your psp?
[04:39] <premier_> is upgrading to 7.04 worth it?
[04:39] <cotyrothery> what should i look for
[04:39] <Jucato> N|ghtwo|f: ok. just be aware that it's still beta
[04:39] <Jucato> premier_: depends on what you consider worth it :)
[04:39] <N|ghtwo|f> Jucato, anyway thx
[04:39] <peaker> amarok is cute in theory, but its programmers overuse threads where they shouldn't. And if you use threads, and you don't know VERY WELL what you are doing - the result is something that crashes like crazy => amarok
[04:39] <premier_> Jucato: can you recomend something for my kicker problem?
[04:40] <mrand> I think my problem might be caused by having my debconf frontend set to noninteractive.  But I don't know where to change this, nor what to change it to.
[04:40] <cotyrothery> i dont know which one is my psp
[04:40] <jhutchins> peaker: It's never crashed on me.
[04:40] <Jucato> premier_: sorry, no idea...
[04:40] <premier_> ahhhhhh!!
[04:40] <sekkola> c' qualche italiano che mi pu dare una mano per favore?
[04:40] <peaker> jhutchins: it has crashed in every computer I have used it on
[04:40] <chijin> cotyrothery: what's the last line of your mount output?
[04:40] <Jucato> !it | sekkola
[04:40] <ubotu> sekkola: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:40] <abattoir> !it | sekkola
[04:40] <abattoir> ;)
[04:40] <premier_> Amarok crashes, but rarely enough to not be a problem
[04:40] <sekkola> ok thank's
[04:40] <jhutchins> peaker: Maybe you have something in your collection that's not like mine.  Mine's on a WinNT server, accessed via samba.
[04:41] <cotyrothery> "/dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok almost never crashes for me
[04:41] <cotyrothery> i think that is it
[04:41] <peaker> jhutchins: Donno, mine was just on a local file system
[04:41] <premier_> amarok seems to have a lot of trouble when it meets a file type it doesnt like
[04:41] <cotyrothery> so how do i choose it
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> so i don't know why it would now
[04:41] <chijin> cotyrothery: type 'df -h' in console and see if the size matches
[04:41] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Anyway, you're probably more interested in fixing it than why it crashed...
[04:41] <mrand> Can anyone help me determine if my debconf frontend is non-interactive?  And possibly how to change it to interactive?
[04:41] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: What was it doing when it crashed?
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> loading one of the built-in radio streams
[04:42] <cotyrothery> yes
[04:42] <cotyrothery> that is it
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> 128kbps mp3, somafm
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> something it's never had a problem with before
[04:42] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Ah, I've had it hang then, some of those are dead.
[04:42] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: How about starting it in a console, see if it gives any useful messages.
[04:42] <cotyrothery> What is the command to mount it
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok gives nothing, just hangs
[04:44] <chijin> cotyrothery: then in konsole, enter the super grup folder and do 'dd if=whateverthesupergrupimageis.iso of=/dev/yourpsp' and replace the .iso with the correct name and yourpsp with the correct device. you'll lose everything you have in your psp though, it'll erase it, so i take no responsibility here :-p
[04:44] <cotyrothery> How do i mount it now that i found it
[04:44] <cotyrothery> ok
[04:44] <cotyrothery> well that sucks
[04:44] <Daisuke_Ido> http://pastebin.ca/412123
[04:44] <cotyrothery> Because i have a lot of homebrew on my psp
[04:44] <cotyrothery> like 1 gb worth
[04:44] <Daisuke_Ido> and that's all i get for amarokapp
[04:45] <cotyrothery> and it's going to erase it
[04:45] <chijin> cotyrothery: i just remembered one thing. do you have a floppy drive? :-P
[04:45] <cotyrothery> yes
[04:45] <chijin> cotyrothery: then use that
[04:45] <cotyrothery> how
[04:45] <chijin> cotyrothery: argh :D
[04:45] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Interesting.
[04:45] <cotyrothery> floppys arnt big enought
[04:45] <Daisuke_Ido> couldn't he image the psp?
[04:45] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, no, livecd
[04:46] <chijin> cotyrothery: the super grup is not big, it fits into a 1,44mb disk
[04:46] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Looks like there's a dead copy of amarok taking up resources.  Simplest thing would be to restart KDE at least, but you could also see if you can kill it.
[04:46] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: ps ax | grep amarok
[04:46] <cotyrothery> yes i have one floppy disk
[04:46] <N|ghtwo|f> i can install kubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <cotyrothery> and i have a floppy drive
[04:47] <N|ghtwo|f> some problem -- broken
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> 32456 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep amarok
[04:47] <cotyrothery> but the iso would be to big
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> the grep is the only thing that shows up
[04:47] <cotyrothery> the iso is 3 mb
[04:47] <chijin> cotyrothery: it's not too big! it's less than a meg
[04:47] <cotyrothery> and a floppy is 1.44 mb
[04:47] <chijin> cotyrothery: is it?
[04:47] <cotyrothery> yea
[04:48] <cotyrothery> 3.4 mb
[04:48] <chijin> heh the compressed file is only 450kB
[04:48] <jhutchins> !pt N|ghtwo|f
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pt n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i suppose a restart of kde is in order
[04:48] <jhutchins> !pt | N|ghtwo|f
[04:48] <ubotu> N|ghtwo|f: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:48] <cotyrothery> yea it is small
[04:48] <jhutchins> oops.
[04:48] <cotyrothery> when compressed
[04:48] <neil__> Still no joy, the gdm scrolls when i move my mouse to the sides of the screen
[04:48] <neil__> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225339
[04:48] <cotyrothery> can i make it a cso
[04:48] <neil__> its like this, but his post doesnt help me
[04:48] <premier_> Jucato: could you just tell me what you, as a sophisticated user, would do about my kicker problem if it happened to you?  Im really lost, and a google search for "kicker 100% cpu" returned very little
[04:48] <cotyrothery> Would that work if i made it a CSO file
[04:48] <Jucato> !it > sekkola
[04:49] <jhutchins> neil__: what's your vga set to in grub?
[04:49] <cotyrothery> Maybe that would compress it enough to fit on the floppy
[04:49] <Jucato> premier_: I'd panic... since I've never had that before :/
[04:49] <neil__> I've never touched grub, but on installation, the system had a bigger screen
[04:49] <neil__> 1280.x
[04:49] <jhutchins> premier_: I'd probably start running xfce more.
[04:49] <neil__> Could that be it?
[04:49] <premier_> Jucato: sounds like what Im doing
[04:50] <jhutchins> premier_: Try creating a new user and see if the new user has the same problem.
[04:50] <neil__> in xorg.conf, 1152.768 comes first, but gdm uses a bigger one for some reason
[04:50] <chijin> cotyrothery: i have no idea how to fit a 3,4mb iso into a floppy disk. i'd just find a burner and burn the super grup image. i don't believe no one close to you has a burner, those things are so cheap
[04:50] <jhutchins> neil__: You're talking about the consoles outside of X, right?
[04:50] <Jucato> !register | sekkola
[04:50] <ubotu> sekkola: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:50] <neil__> I'm talking about the login screen when ubuntu boots
[04:51] <neil__> its fine as soon as I get into ubuntu
[04:51] <jhutchins> chijin: Got a usb drive?
[04:51] <neil__> but the login screen scrolls
[04:51] <cotyrothery> I have my psp
[04:51] <cotyrothery> that will work
[04:51] <jhutchins> neil__: Ok, that's determined by a vga setting in the boot config.
[04:51] <cotyrothery> its just a matter of mounting  the drive
[04:51] <neil__> Really, awesome
[04:51] <neil__> how do I get to the config?
[04:51] <jhutchins> neil__: X isn't even running at that point, so xorg.conf has nothing to do with it.
[04:51] <chijin> jhutchins: i have plenty, but i don't have any issues that need resolving :-P
[04:51] <jhutchins> neil__: Lessee....
[04:51] <jhutchins> !grub | neil__
[04:51] <ubotu> neil__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:51] <robin> how to make edgy such that it will automatically log in, bypass the login screen?
[04:51] <robin> !auto
[04:51] <cotyrothery> neil
[04:51] <robin> !autologin
[04:52] <neil__> I dont really want to remove all other resolutions bar the one i want right now (as suggested in the forum), as I have 2 monitors with different res's i use sometimes
[04:52] <cotyrothery> do you happen to go on qj
[04:52] <jhutchins> neil__: I use lilo, so I don't know grub very well.
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <neil__> thanks jhutchins
[04:52] <peaker> robin: Its in your login manager config in KDE's system config
[04:52] <neil__> qj?
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autologin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <jhutchins> neil__: Right, nothing to do with your X resolutions.
[04:52] <cotyrothery> yeah
[04:52] <cotyrothery> quick jump
[04:52] <peaker> jhutchins: grub is way cooler ;) An OS to load OS's :)
[04:52] <cotyrothery> you know
[04:52] <peaker> jhutchins: you get to access file systems and stuff from the boot prompt
[04:52] <cotyrothery> maybe i have the wrong guy
[04:52] <neil__> Yeah I think you might :D hehe
[04:52] <cotyrothery> lol
[04:53] <jhutchins> neil__: I would suggest that what you need is something like vga=normal appended to the boot command in /boot/grub/menu.list (that may not be the right file).
[04:53] <cotyrothery> well there is a admin there with your name
[04:53] <cotyrothery> and when you said alsome
[04:53] <jhutchins> peaker: Do this then: lilo -R windows;shutdown -r now
[04:53] <cotyrothery> i figured you were him
[04:53] <neil__> ah :D heh
[04:53] <robin> AWRITE
[04:53] <robin> thanks
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, it looks like amarok is actually broken broken
[04:54] <neil__> jhutchins: I'm having a look.. so the gdm isnt within x?
[04:54] <cotyrothery> so how do i mount my psp dirve
[04:54] <Daisuke_Ido> won't start even after restarting kde
[04:54] <neil__> I'd assumed it ran from x's config too, but I was obv. wrong
[04:54] <jhutchins> neil__: gdm is just the mouse manager for _outside_ of X.
[04:54] <neil__> ooh
[04:54] <cotyrothery> what is the command to changing dir in konsole
[04:54] <neil__> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub_configure_examples#Vga_-_Resolution_settings
[04:54] <neil__> might be onto something here
[04:54] <neil__> cotyrothery: cd
[04:55] <cotyrothery> thx
[04:55] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Really!  I guess it's time to send you over to #amarok then - they're pretty helpful if they're awake.
[04:55] <jhutchins> neil__: There you go, just what you need.
[04:55] <jhutchins> neil__: If you don't use a mouse in the console, you can always disable gdm or remove it.
[04:56] <chijin> cotyrothery: if you see your psp in df -h, it's already mounted
[04:56] <neil__> :D
[04:56] <neil__> thanks jhutchins
[04:56] <jhutchins> neil__: I suspec that resolution, not gdm, is the problem.
[04:56] <jhutchins> neil__: Dang it.  I just realized - are you talking the black-and-white console, or are you talking the graphical log-in manager?
[04:56] <neil__> graphical log in manager :)
[04:57] <jhutchins> Oh, I'm sorry.
[04:57] <cotyrothery> ok
[04:57] <neil__> It's basically too big for my screen if you follow, so moving the mouse to top, bottom, sides scrolls it
[04:57] <jhutchins> neil__: While everything I've said is true, gdm is also the Gnome Display Manager, responsible for that login screen unless you use kdm or xdm.
[04:57] <neil__> yeah..
[04:57] <neil__> I think the link above /may/ still sort me out
[04:58] <jhutchins> neil__: Well, no, like I said, console resolution is entirely seperate from X resolution.
[04:58] <neil__> ah :/
[04:58] <pabst> how can i connect to a winblows terminal server through Kubuntu?
[04:58] <jhutchins> neil__: The good news is that the ?dm configuration is also seperate from the X config file, although it gets info from it.
[04:58] <jhutchins> neil__: You're sure it's gdm, not kdm?
[04:59] <neil__> Umm, at the moment I am indeed talking gnome
[04:59] <neil__> I know I should technically be in #ubuntu but its better here sometimes :)
[04:59] <jhutchins> neil__: KDE users tend to be a bit more techie.
[04:59] <jhutchins> (You oughta see the xfce guys.)
[04:59] <neil__> lol
[05:00] <N|ghtwo|f> nice jhutchins
[05:00] <jhutchins> neil__: You might be able to find the config file by locate gdmrc
[05:00] <goblin> hello, i'm newbie in linux, i search for xfce, i found some links on the official page but there are broken, can anyone help me?
[05:00] <neil__> It's easy to swap to kubuntu isnt it? I'm wishing I had done that in the first place.. but hey thats another issue :D
[05:00] <jhutchins> for kdm it's /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc
[05:00] <cotyrothery> i dont understand on how im going to mount this iso
[05:00] <jhutchins> goblin: xfce.org
[05:00] <neil__> mm nope, I wonder if google knows
[05:00] <bentob0x> under Windows, when you wanted a folder to be at the top, you added _ before it and it was always displayed at the top.  Linux doesn't sort the same way, what char can I use for a folder to be always at the top?
[05:01] <neil__> gdm.conf :)
[05:01] <Tm_T> bentob0x: numbers?
[05:01] <bentob0x> hmm
[05:01] <bentob0x> anything else before numbers?
[05:01] <cotyrothery> I cant figure out how to mount this iso
[05:02] <bentob0x> I added 0_
[05:02] <bentob0x> :)
[05:02] <neil__> jhutchins: nothing in gdm.conf about resolution at all though :(
[05:02] <jhutchins> !loopback | cotyrothery
[05:02] <ubotu> cotyrothery: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:02] <neil__> I figured downloaded logins were one size fits all, but perhaps they dont scale....
[05:02] <neil__> I got a customised one via gnome-art
[05:03] <jhutchins> neil__: That's probably it.
[05:03] <neil__> they all appear huge though..
[05:04] <cotyrothery> ok my psp is mounted
[05:04] <neil__> I wonder if the included ones all work perfectly..
[05:04] <neil__> back shortly :)
[05:04] <chijin> cotyrothery: how many times.. you don't mount the iso at all!
[05:04] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:04] <cotyrothery> i have not mounted the iso
[05:04] <tyger> hi room.  any google-earth gurus home?:)
[05:04] <cotyrothery> i mounted the psp
[05:05] <neil__> hmm nope, in fact, all of the logins i have are too big
[05:05] <neil__> even those included with ubuntu
[05:05] <jhutchins> tyger: What's to guru?
[05:05] <dBgBdWolf> is there any pppoe support in kubuntu?
[05:05] <chijin> cotyrothery: scroll up and use the 'dd' command i gave you.. twice
[05:05] <cotyrothery> yeah but i dont understand it
[05:05] <neil__> I'm sure they were perfect when I was running a 1280.1024 resolution though :/
[05:05] <jhutchins> neil__: What resolution are you at by default?
[05:05] <neil__> Im now 1152.768
[05:05] <dBgBdWolf> or would i need to download rp-pppoe to get pppoe support?
[05:05] <neil__> Hang on I've just had a thought...
[05:05] <jhutchins> neil__: strange.
[05:05] <neil__> 1152 seems a bit non standard
[05:05] <neil__> the second in my list is 1280
[05:06] <neil__> could it be that gdm finds no 1152 theme, so goes to 2nd best, which is 1280?
[05:06] <dBgBdWolf> rather, compile rp-pppoe to get pppoe support?
[05:06] <neil__> Perhaps if I put 1024 second in the list it will fall back to that instead..
[05:06] <cotyrothery> what you said about the dd did not make since to me
[05:06] <jhutchins> neil__: Yeah, could be.  I have 1152x768 and x864, but I dont' run there.
[05:06] <tyger> i upgraded to 7.04 recently, and it broke google-earth.  freezes at the splash screen; worked fine before.
[05:07] <jhutchins> tyger: Report it.
[05:07] <jhutchins> tyger: What version of googleearth?
[05:07] <rbrunhuber8995> tyger: Did you check that you still have the right graphics driver?
[05:08] <cotyrothery> my psp drive is system:/media/sda1
[05:08] <neil__> time to give it a try..
[05:08] <tyger> rbrunhuber8995: i'm wondering if my xorg got screwed up somehow. everything else seems to work ok.
[05:09] <chijin> cotyrothery: then the command is 'dd if=heregoestheisofile.iso of=/dev/sda1'
[05:09] <chijin> cotyrothery: it's very simple, just replace the iso file name with the correct one
[05:09] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:09] <jhutchins> tyger: What version of googleearth?
[05:09] <tyger> jhutchins: i'm new to kubuntu (bsd guy) where do i report the problem?
[05:09] <cotyrothery> it says no such directory
[05:10] <chijin> cotyrothery: what command did you use?
[05:10] <cotyrothery> the one you gave me
[05:10] <jhutchins> tyger: http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:10] <chijin> cotyrothery: it won't work, you have to replace the file name with the correct one
[05:10] <jhutchins> tyger: Whoops.
[05:10] <cotyrothery> i did
[05:10] <cotyrothery> i named the iso help.iso
[05:11] <drumer> hi
[05:11] <chijin> cotyrothery: have you entered the directory where the iso file is?
[05:11] <cotyrothery> and i put it in the command
[05:11] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:11] <neil__> jhutchins: same problem still unfortunately, regardless of theme, the login screen scrolls :/
[05:11] <jhutchins> tyger: Sorry, 7.04's support channel is #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <jhutchins> tyger: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[05:11] <cotyrothery> it is in the main section of my memory stick
[05:11] <cotyrothery> the root
[05:11] <jhutchins> neil__: How about installing kdm?
[05:12] <neil__> heh
[05:12] <tyger> jhutchins:medibuntu 4.0.735.0
[05:12] <chijin> cotyrothery: so you put the iso file into the psp and then tried to do the dd thing?
[05:12] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:12] <cotyrothery> i put
[05:12] <chijin> cotyrothery: don't do that lol
[05:12] <chijin> cotyrothery: keep the iso file in your home dir and use it from there
[05:12] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:12] <tyger> jhutchins:thanks: going to ubuntu+1
[05:12] <cotyrothery> it is
[05:13] <cotyrothery> it is in the root i did not put it in a folder
[05:13] <cotyrothery> why dont you type out the complete command please
[05:13] <cotyrothery> the iso name is help.iso
[05:14] <cotyrothery> my dirve is system:/media/sda1
[05:14] <chijin> cotyrothery: dd if=help.iso of=/dev/sda1
[05:14] <cotyrothery> i did that
[05:15] <cotyrothery> i keep getting no such file or directory
[05:16] <cotyrothery> This is such a pain
[05:16] <chijin> cotyrothery: then i think you're in the wrong directory trying to use a iso file that just isn't there
[05:16] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:16] <cotyrothery> well that is the dir
[05:16] <chijin> where did you extract the iso?
[05:19] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:19] <cotyrothery> now i know why it is not working
[05:19] <cotyrothery> because it erased everything on my drive and i guess extracted the iso on to i
[05:19] <cotyrothery> t
[05:20] <chijin> hah
[05:20] <cotyrothery> so now i have 2 folders
[05:20] <cotyrothery> and one file
[05:20] <cotyrothery> on my psp
[05:20] <chijin> that should be correct
[05:20] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:20] <cotyrothery> so what do i do now
[05:20] <chijin> try to boot from it
[05:21] <cotyrothery> how
[05:21] <chijin> 17:28:35 <chijin> cotyrothery: access your bios with psp attached, and make it use it as the first boot device
[05:21] <cotyrothery> just click onit
[05:21] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:21] <chijin> good luck!
[05:21] <cotyrothery> so i have to shut down
[05:21] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:21] <cotyrothery> thanks
[05:21] <drumer> du you listen drum and bass anybody?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> drumer, I'm a drummer but sampled music isn't my thing , for sure
[05:24] <neil__> If anyone wonders, heres the solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2361367#post2361367
[05:24] <drumer> I like sampled music but I dont  find program for linux ubuntu
[05:25] <jhutchins> drumer: Programs to do what?
[05:25] <drumer> BluesKaj, do you know program traktor dj studio
[05:25] <drumer> BluesKaj, program like a traktor
[05:25] <BluesKaj> nope, sorry drumer
[05:25] <jhutchins> drumer: What does traktor do?
[05:26] <drumer> you can mix 2 vinyl sets in one
[05:26] <drumer> Im from czech republic I can speak english little
[05:26] <drumer> I thing so:D
[05:26] <N|ghtwo|f> !pt
[05:26] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:26] <jhutchins> drumer: That's ok, my czek is pretty bad.
[05:27] <jhutchins> drumer: Mixer.
[05:27] <jhutchins> drumer: Sound card with two inputs.
[05:27] <jhutchins> drumer: Yeah, there's stuff like that in linux, and stuff where you can use two audio files for it.
[05:27] <drumer> jhutchins, yes I have sound card with two inputs but I dont have program in linux
[05:27] <jhutchins> drumer: http://linux-sound.org/
[05:28] <jhutchins> drumer: http://www.linuxaudio.org/
[05:28] <drumer> jhutchins, I watch it thanks
[05:28] <alexicon> hello people
[05:28] <jhutchins> drumer: Have fun!  Remember, Linux is used to create and render major animated movie features, so what you can do is pretty much unlimited.
[05:29] <alexicon> i just installed gnome on kubuntu and logged in. i previously had gnome settings in my home dir. and now gnome is buggered cos its trying to use an old gtk theme i no longer have
[05:29] <alexicon> in what file are gnome themes specified in so i can manually change it
[05:29] <drumer> jhutchins, I like linux....I dont like windows..windows is shi.....t
[05:30] <BluesKaj> !gnome
[05:30] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[05:30] <BluesKaj> alexicon , /join #ubuntu
[05:30] <alexicon> just wanted to know if anyone had messed up their theme before and knew how to get it back
[05:30] <alexicon> ok
[05:30] <BluesKaj> kubuntu is mostly KDE desktop
[05:31] <alexicon> yeah ff keeps crashing kde tho
[05:31] <alexicon> so wanted to see if gnome was any more stable
[05:31] <jhutchins> alexicon: ff crashes.
[05:31] <alexicon> recently ff crashes have been taking down X for me
[05:31] <alexicon> and making my hdd thrash like crazy
[05:31] <alexicon> not enough memory i suppose
[05:31] <alexicon> kde is a bit bloaty tho.. so just shopping around for new wms..
[05:32] <BluesKaj> what's yer pc memory specs alexicon?
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> alexicon: considered xfce?
[05:32] <alexicon> ick :P not since 2003.. heh
[05:32] <alexicon> i prefer fluxbox
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ot
[05:32] <alexicon> or fvwm even
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> it's gotten quite a bit less bad since then
[05:33] <alexicon> i think it was their filemanager that really put me off
[05:33] <Daisuke_Ido> thunar?
[05:33] <alexicon> but tbh i dont like gnome or gtk particularly
[05:33] <root_> magyar ember segtsen nekem cardman-t feltenni lgyszves
[05:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it's more mac-finder like now
[05:33] <root_> :)
[05:33] <Daisuke_Ido> alexicon: there's always enlightenment
[05:33] <drumer> can I speak czech here?
[05:33] <drumer> or not
[05:33] <BluesKaj> alexicon, doubt if memory is your prob
[05:33] <alexicon> heh e17 ever coming out?
[05:33] <Daisuke_Ido> good question
[05:33] <BluesKaj> !cz
[05:33] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[05:34] <alexicon> ive been waiting over a year for e17 now :P
[05:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i've been playing around with the beta (alpha)
[05:34] <alexicon> think i'll just stick with flux tho
[05:34] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's really sweet
[05:34] <cotyrothery> IT did not work
[05:34] <alexicon> i dunno BluesKaj if its causing hdd thrashing i reckon its either fragged or ive run out of mem and its swapping out
[05:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i have to agree with your non-gtk stance though.  it's just ugly
[05:34] <cotyrothery> I just came up with a there is no operating system
[05:35] <alexicon> its the lack of configurability that annoys me with gtk... looks nice and unifrom tho at least
[05:35] <drumer> wow thanks....that is my language:D
[05:36] <chijin> cotyrothery: did you try the boot windows option?
[05:36] <cotyrothery> hmm
[05:36] <cotyrothery> How do i do tht
[05:36] <Daisuke_Ido> and did you make sure the bios is set to boot from usb first
[05:36] <cotyrothery> that
[05:36] <cotyrothery> no
[05:36] <chijin> cotyrothery: it's in the super grup menu.. haha
[05:36] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that might help
[05:37] <cotyrothery> i did not see one
[05:37] <Daisuke_Ido> make sure it reads the usb drive before the hdd
[05:37] <cotyrothery> all i saw was removable device
[05:37] <chijin> cotyrothery: you didn't see a menu?
[05:37] <cotyrothery> no
[05:37] <chijin> then it didn't boot from it
[05:37] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[05:37] <Daisuke_Ido> would "removable device" even be usb?
[05:37] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:37] <cotyrothery> i would think
[05:38] <cotyrothery> !supergrub
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <cotyrothery> I am hating this
[05:39] <cotyrothery> I should have never tried to install kubuntu
[05:39] <BluesKaj> !grub
[05:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:39] <Daisuke_Ido> i wouldn't say that
[05:39] <cotyrothery> why
[05:39] <cotyrothery> i cant get it to work
[05:40] <cotyrothery> I installed it and it does not even come up at start up
[05:40] <cotyrothery> plus it erases the bootloader for windows
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> it's all in how you installed it
[05:40] <cotyrothery> I did what it said
[05:40] <rbrunhuber> cotyrothery : Linux has sometime a steep learning curve. But from my experience on of the easiest is (k)ubuntu
[05:41] <cotyrothery> I really would rather have kubuntu than windows
[05:41] <cotyrothery> but now i have neither
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're serious about switching, don't dual boot
[05:41] <rbrunhuber> cotyrothery : do you have at least a grub shell?
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> backsliding is too easy to do
[05:42] <cotyrothery> what is a grub shell
[05:42] <cotyrothery> and what is backsliding
[05:42] <rbrunhuber> cotyrothery : if you start up the machine to you have boot loader?
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> going to linux, finding there's something that's a little tough, and just going back to windows instead of persevering
[05:42] <cotyrothery> im not going back
[05:42] <cotyrothery> I love linux
[05:43] <cotyrothery> i love it just from using this live cd
[05:43] <cotyrothery> all the things and possibilities
[05:43] <cotyrothery> but when it wipes out your OS
[05:43] <cotyrothery> and you dont have a functioning computer
[05:43] <cotyrothery> then what
[05:44] <cotyrothery> and i have no type of boot at start up
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> cotyrothery: normally i'd say reinstall from the livecd and blow away the windows partition, but that would entail losing a whole lot of documents
[05:44] <chijin> where exactly did the kubuntu installation hang, cotyrothery?
[05:44] <rbrunhuber> cotyrothery : I would try to start the live cd again and investigate the partioniing of your harddrive. I hope you did not erase your bs.
[05:44] <rbrunhuber> bs=os
[05:44] <chijin> heh
[05:44] <cotyrothery> i did not
[05:44] <chijin> bs was much funnier :-P
[05:44] <cotyrothery> i have two drives
[05:45] <cotyrothery> i installed it on the slave
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> run through the install again and see what grub picks up for other oses maybe?
[05:45] <cotyrothery> Hey i might now what to do
[05:46] <cotyrothery> I think that my slave drive is a network device
[05:46] <cotyrothery> dont ask why
[05:46] <cotyrothery> i just remember it being one
[05:46] <cotyrothery> i have no idea how that can be but i think it si
[05:47] <cotyrothery> so maybe if i make the boot at start up start my network device first maybe that would do it
[05:47] <cotyrothery> because my slave was called keynote
[05:47] <cotyrothery> and it always had a pic of a wifi antena
[05:47] <cotyrothery> kind of strange
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> it's worth a shot
[05:48] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:48] <cotyrothery> i guess that means i have to shut down AGAIN
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> right now i'd say about anything's worth trying
[05:48] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:48] <cotyrothery> see you in a few
[05:49] <cotyrothery> unless
[05:49] <cotyrothery> there is a way to install just the bootloader
[05:49] <cotyrothery> is there  a way to install just grub
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> erm...  i don't know about that one.  there may be, but i don't know how
[05:50] <cotyrothery> If i could install grub
[05:50] <cotyrothery> then that might work
[05:50] <chijin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:50] <cotyrothery> I've done that
[05:50] <cotyrothery> it did not work
[05:51] <chijin> that link is about installing grub
[05:51] <chijin> are you sure you tried it?
[05:51] <cotyrothery> i know
[05:51] <cotyrothery> yea
[05:51] <cotyrothery> but maybe i did it on the wrong drive
[05:51] <cotyrothery> because i got two
[05:52] <cotyrothery> hd1,0
[05:52] <cotyrothery> and
[05:52] <cotyrothery> hd1,2
[05:52] <chijin> hd1 is your 2nd drive
[05:52] <chijin> hd0 is your first one
[05:52] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:52] <cotyrothery> so why is it i did not get that
[05:52] <drumer> how long is ubuntu in live???
[05:53] <rbrunhuber> drumer : what do you mean?
[05:53] <cypher1> is not there a Qt C++ UI compiler in the repos ?
[05:53] <spawn57> feisty, here I come =D
[05:53] <drumer> how long is ubuntu here
[05:53] <drumer> do you know?
[05:53] <cypher1>  i can see a Qt Java UI compiler (juic) but not a C++ one
[05:53] <rbrunhuber> do you mean when the project was founded?
[05:54] <drumer> yes
[05:54] <Riddell> cypher1: as I said, they're in the libqt4-dev and qt3-dev-tools packages
[05:54] <frojnd> hello there I was just dist-upgrade and there was some error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12336/ can someone tell me how can I fix this to complete upgrade??
[05:54] <cypher1> Riddell, thanks!
[05:55] <cotyrothery> so im guessing then that i have kubuntu installed
[05:55] <cotyrothery> it just that grub is not working
[05:56] <cotyrothery> (hd1,0)
[05:56] <cotyrothery>  (hd1,2)
[05:56] <cotyrothery> that is what i got
[05:56] <Arwen> help, it takes 50+ seconds to copy 300MB, that's a problem, right?
[05:56] <cotyrothery> when i typed find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:58] <rbrunhuber> drumer : should be mid 2004
[05:58] <drumer> rbrunhuber, wow two year.....
[05:59] <cotyrothery> I just went ahead and installed grub on both drives
[05:59] <Arwen> help, my hard drive is absurdly slow....
[05:59] <rbrunhuber> drumer : must be around 3 years now
[05:59] <rbrunhuber> Arwen: did you try hdparm?
[05:59] <Arwen> rbrunhuber, doesn't work for sata drives
[05:59] <Kevlar_Soul> What is the name of that package that gives you GUI of everything that is running like TASK MANAGER in windows????
[06:00] <abattoir> Kevlar_Soul: ksysguard
[06:00] <cotyrothery> ok im going to restart and hope that it works
[06:00] <abattoir> Kevlar_Soul: Ctrl+Esc
[06:00] <rbrunhuber> Arwen : Sorry still only having PATA drives.
[06:00] <Arwen> rbrunhuber, or, it works, but it doesn't say anything useful
[06:01] <Kevlar_Soul> thanks
[06:01] <zorglu_> !virtualbox
[06:01] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[06:01] <Arwen> rbrunhuber, oh wait, hdparm -a works, hdparm -d doesn't
[06:01] <philfo> is there a utility that will check HD's, like chkdsk in Windows?
[06:01] <Arwen> philfo, fsck
[06:02] <Arwen> it works like this - sudo fsck <partition block device>
[06:02] <Arwen> note that you can only do this if your partition is unmounted or read-only
[06:02] <rbrunhuber> philfo : But this does not(!) check harddrives but the filesystem on the harddrive
[06:03] <philfo> ok.  I think my harddrive may be damaged & before I go do another install on an adjacent drive I'd like to check it out
[06:03] <rbrunhuber> philfo : This works great, but you should consider to do it from a live cd
[06:04] <philfo> ok, go
[06:04] <rbrunhuber> philfo : Because you can only check fs when they are unmounted or readonly. If you want to correct errors then you need a live cd.
[06:04] <philfo> gotcha.
[06:05] <philfo> so run it in knoppix or ubuntu live then?
[06:05] <rbrunhuber> philfo : I would use knoppix because I know it has  a  switch at boottime that no X is loaded (-noX) or so
[06:06] <philfo> ok
[06:06] <rbrunhuber> philfo : Then you have only a console. I do not know if you are familiar with this.
[06:06] <philfo> not really
[06:07] <qarash> what are the third party repos that automatix uses? where do i find them?
[06:07] <eilker> sudo mount /dev/fd0 what is wrong with this _?
[06:07] <drumer> is here any girl????
[06:07] <chijin> eilker: you need to add a destination
[06:07] <philfo> but I have to learn
[06:07] <rbrunhuber> philfo: but messing up harddrives is not a good experience for learning :-)
[06:07] <philfo> true, true
[06:08] <eilker> chijin> it says it is already mounted or device busy
[06:08] <eilker> chijin> i cant use floopy
[06:09] <philfo> I'm only asking because I still have a little lag when using applications
[06:09] <rbrunhuber> drumer : Here are a lot of people who want to help you or that need help. This is totally independent of the sex.
[06:09] <qarash> rbrunhuber: not if you need some masturbation help
[06:09] <peaker> I rebooted into edgy now, and my wireless still doesnt work out of the box
[06:09] <peaker> I need to reconfigure it with kde's tool or iwconfig manually
[06:10] <rbrunhuber> qarash : But that topic is not really covered by the channel subject.
[06:10] <peaker> even though /etc/network/interfaces is correctly configured
[06:10] <qarash> rbrunhuber: oh, ok
[06:10] <qarash> :)
[06:10] <surgy> how can i mount a cue or bin file ?
[06:11] <justin__> Does anyone think they can help me with a KCron problem that I Have?
[06:11] <philfo> thanks, all.
[06:11] <drumer> rbrunhuber, yes I know sorry.....:D
[06:11] <drumer> the most of girls can not work with computer....
[06:11] <justin__> I'm trying to run xine to run a URL in KCron, but having no luck
[06:12] <rbrunhuber> drumer : This is just plain wrong! So please stop this now!
[06:12] <peaker> hehe
[06:13] <peaker> sexist jokes are not to be taken seriously
[06:13] <peaker> ;)
[06:13] <drumer> rbrunhuber,  sorry....
[06:13] <peaker> did you know beer had lots of estrogen? That's why guys can't drive after drinking
[06:13] <rbrunhuber> peaker : Sexist jokes are not to be told here!
[06:13] <surgy> i need to be able to mount cue and bin cd images using a virtual cdrom, can anyone help me?
[06:13] <DarkED> lol
[06:13] <peaker> rbrunhuber: heh, ok ok
[06:13] <drumer> that wasnt sexis joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:13] <DarkED> peaker: nice one, but yeah...
[06:13] <rbrunhuber> drumer : Yes you are right this was not even good enough to be a joke.
[06:14] <DarkED> anyone know why konqueror cant use the imageshack uploader?
[06:14] <abattoir> !offtopic
[06:14] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:14] <drumer> rbrunhuber, yes that right
[06:14] <peaker> how come I dist-upgraded to edgy, after installing kubuntu dapper, and now I dont got kubuntu-desktop installed?
[06:14] <abattoir> DarkED: you get any specific errors? buttons missing?
[06:14] <peaker> weird.. Kubuntu's dapper install was far from working out of the box... it is still not working after upgrade to edgy
[06:14] <abattoir> !upgrade | Peaker
[06:14] <ubotu> Peaker: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:15] <abattoir> Peaker: did you follow those?
[06:15] <DarkED> abattoir: nope, all the buttons are there, it just pops an error saying it cant connect when you actually hit 'upload'
[06:15] <DarkED> abattoir: you need an account
[06:15] <abattoir> oh :(
[06:15] <Peaker> I just s/dapper/edgy and dist-upgrade'd
[06:15] <Peaker> oh damn I dont have a web browser now
[06:15] <Peaker> it seems half of kde was uninstalled by apt due to some problem, doh :)
[06:15] <abattoir> Peaker: that causes problems unfortunately, please read those instructions thoroughly
[06:15] <Peaker> well, I can visit that url soon
[06:15] <Peaker> heh
[06:16] <Peaker> abattoir: I'm after the upgrade now :)
[06:16] <Peaker> abattoir: tho my /etc/network/interfaces are still ignored by kubuntu...
[06:16] <Peaker> (need to manually set up my wifi settings)
[06:16] <drumer> Im after the uprade too
[06:16] <drumer> :)
[06:16] <abattoir> hmm... installing kubuntu-desktop should pull everything down, also make sure you have xserver-xorg properly installed and configured before that(some of the common problems)
[06:17] <Peaker> abattoir: I am talking in konversation. it seems most of KDE is working (and thus X too), but konqueror and others were uninstalled
[06:17] <Peaker> abattoir: I'm now pulling kubuntu-desktop to fix those
[06:17] <abattoir> ok
[06:17] <abattoir> you're lucky compared to some of the others :)
[06:18] <Peaker> hehe, what happened to others? :)
[06:18] <Peaker> kdesktop was also uninstalled so I dont have kde's run dialog too
[06:18] <mariano> Hi. Is it possible to run a kde app in a different localization language?
[06:18] <abattoir> well, X got uninstalled for many, so they had to reinstall, since they didn't know what to do next
[06:18] <Peaker> abattoir: My wireless arch (zd1211) is not well supported by dapper, and it disc'd in middle of dist-upgrade download, but adept tried to upgrade anyways and I got screwed up until apt-get -f install fix
[06:19] <abattoir> mariano: only one app or make entire KDE use another language?
[06:19] <arafat_> hi all! after upgrading to edgy emacs doesn't work properly anymore.. every character inside the editor is displayed as a square! there seems to be a problem with the font encoding. any suggestions how i can fix this?
[06:19] <cotyrothery> it did not work
[06:19] <cotyrothery> so now i have no idea what im going to do
[06:19] <Peaker> abattoir: Ah, I've been using Linux for a bunch of years now, I can use the vc, tho I prefer not to
[06:20] <mariano> abattoir: yes, kdesvn
[06:20] <abattoir> Peaker: aah, ok :)
[06:20] <qarash> what are the third party repos that automatix uses? where do i find them?
[06:20] <LjL> qarash: i don't know. what do *you* want to install?
[06:21] <qarash> LjL: i just want to have them
[06:21] <LjL> qarash: then ask in #automatix, here automatix is NOT supported and we mostly don't know a thing about it
[06:21] <LjL> (that's because we generally avoid it like the pest)
[06:21] <BluesKaj> !automatix | qarash
[06:21] <ubotu> qarash: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:21] <cotyrothery> I have an idea
[06:22] <cotyrothery> could someone install it for me
[06:22] <cotyrothery> through remote connection
[06:22] <drumer> rbrunhuber, sorry but my englis is very bad....you can understant esle me....do you know??
[06:22] <cotyrothery> or someting
[06:22] <qarash> !easyubuntu
[06:22] <cotyrothery> if that is possible
[06:22] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[06:22] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:23] <fdoving> cotyrothery: no, we don't do that. it's not an good idea to allow random people you meet on the internet install stuff on your machine. we belive in educating new users to help them self (and hopefully others) in the future.
[06:23] <cotyrothery> Well it does not seem to be working for me
[06:24] <cotyrothery> i cant get anything to work right for me
[06:25] <Vedo> hi all
[06:25] <BluesKaj> cotyrothery, go to a pc that has a burner , download GParted partition editor ... make sur your boot sequnce in the BIOS looks at the cdrom drive first, partition your drive to ext linux , then install Kubuntu ...that's your best bet right now
[06:25] <cotyrothery> Well no one i know has a burner
[06:25] <mariano> ok, it was: KDE_LANG="en_US" kdesvn
[06:27] <bonbonthejon> hi Vedo
[06:28] <cotyrothery> It would be nice if someone could do remote connection
[06:28] <cotyrothery> at this point i dont care who
[06:28] <cotyrothery> its not like i have anything on my computer
[06:28] <cotyrothery> its all been wiped out
[06:28] <cotyrothery> because of kubuntu installation
[06:29] <fdoving> cotyrothery: what is the inital problem?
[06:29] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: what are you trying to do
[06:29] <cotyrothery> The problem is when i install kubuntu then restart i now have no operating system is what i get
[06:30] <cotyrothery> not even windows
[06:30] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: sounds like grub is messed up
[06:30] <bonbonthejon> !fixgrub
[06:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:30] <cotyrothery> i have done all that also
[06:30] <cotyrothery> none of it worked
[06:31] <cotyrothery> I have tried everything
[06:31] <chijin> cotyrothery: have you tried installing grub on hd0 and hd1?
[06:31] <cotyrothery> and now the ending result of it is no os
[06:31] <cotyrothery> yes
[06:31] <cotyrothery> but i only have hd1,0
[06:31] <cotyrothery> and hd1,2
[06:31] <chijin> leave the other number out
[06:31] <cotyrothery> nothing about a hd0
[06:31] <cotyrothery> I tried on both
[06:32] <cotyrothery> neither worked
[06:32] <fannagoganna> hi, wondering if anyone had a /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged that I could copy from?
[06:32] <kasper> howcome when i try to install msttcore it tells me it didn't connect and therefore has not been installed. But afterwards Adept tell me that msttcore has been installed and shows in green?
[06:32] <cotyrothery> I wonder how many people have my problem
[06:32] <izaak> this may seem like a silly question but i can't find a link on kubuntu.org to download the source code
[06:33] <raffytaffy> cotyrothery
[06:33] <cotyrothery> yes
[06:33] <shaggyoaf> Hi, all... I just made the leap from Dapper to Feisty and I'm having trouble with my keymap. It seems that the 'win' key doesn't have a symbol attached to it
[06:33] <raffytaffy> what u using 6.10?
[06:33] <cotyrothery> no
[06:33] <raffytaffy> which
[06:33] <cotyrothery> the one before it
[06:33] <raffytaffy> ok
[06:33] <shaggyoaf> any ideas how I might reset my keymap?
[06:33] <cotyrothery> 6.06
[06:33] <raffytaffy> did u compile a kernel perhaps?
[06:33] <Vedo> can ask a simple question?
[06:33] <cotyrothery> um no
[06:33] <raffytaffy> ok
[06:33] <soulrider_> shaggyoaf: edgy or feisty ?
[06:34] <raffytaffy> u say u have no OS when u boot grub?
[06:34] <raffytaffy> correct?
[06:34] <fdoving> izaak: is there anything specific you want the sourcecode of?
[06:34] <cotyrothery> correct
[06:34] <fdoving> izaak: packages.ubuntu.com is nice.
[06:34] <shaggyoaf> soulrider_: feisty
[06:34] <cotyrothery> it boots nothing
[06:34] <raffytaffy> can u show me 2 things
[06:34] <soulrider_> i suggest you ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:34] <cotyrothery> sure
[06:34] <izaak> fdoving: yeah, i was looking for the source to the default kwin decoration in kubuntu edgy.
[06:34] <peaker> clicking "administrator mode" does nothing in many of the control center dialogs :(
[06:34] <raffytaffy> pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:34] <raffytaffy> and ls /boot
[06:34] <peaker> its an ancient bug, I was hoping by edgy it would be fixed
[06:34] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:34] <cotyrothery> on konsole?
[06:35] <raffytaffy> in console
[06:35] <chijin> he needs to mount the linux partition first
[06:35] <raffytaffy> cd /boot
[06:35] <raffytaffy> and  "ls"
[06:35] <raffytaffy> then put in paste bin ..the list u get
[06:35] <raffytaffy> along with your menu.lst
[06:35] <cotyrothery> from console?
[06:35] <shaggyoaf> On a box that works, xev says that the win key gives (keysym 0xffeb, Super_L) and on this box that doesn't, it says (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol)
[06:35] <fdoving> izaak: i think that is kwin-style-crystal - try searching packages.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <BluesKaj> raffytaffy he's on live cd
[06:35] <raffytaffy> give me 1 sec i will tell u directions in that case
[06:36] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:36] <cotyrothery> thanks for the help everyone
[06:36] <BluesKaj> sooner or later cotyrothery, yer gonna need a burner ... it would help us help you much more
[06:36] <cotyrothery> I really hope i get this working
[06:36] <cotyrothery> I cant get one
[06:36] <jim88> hi all earlier I asked about a problem with my screen being streched ... I ran the monitor fix and it still doesnt work
[06:36] <yacoob> Help :) I switched from fglrx to radeon (in order to get aiglx working), and now I *don't* have direct rendering at all...
[06:36] <cotyrothery> How much are burners
[06:36] <cotyrothery> about 50 dollors
[06:37] <peaker> !nvidia
[06:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:37] <cotyrothery> ?
[06:37] <chijin> $30
[06:37] <cotyrothery> wow
[06:37] <cotyrothery> no way
[06:37] <chijin> yes way
[06:37] <cotyrothery> that is cheap
[06:37] <raffytaffy> cotyothery http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12344/
[06:38] <yacoob> peaker, thanks for the effort, but if you'd *read* my question, you'd see that I do NOT want fglrx :P
[06:38] <izaak> fdoving: i don't think that's it... the kubuntu edgy default looks like a duplicate (but blue version) of ubuntu human theme in gnome
[06:38] <peaker> yacoob: its for me, not for you ;)
[06:39] <peaker> my device is "nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1)" and not one of the ones in that explanation page ...
[06:39] <raffytaffy> someone should really start making "tux" video cards for linux only heh
[06:40] <fdoving> izaak: oh. could it be polyester then?
[06:40] <izaak> fdoving: no, polyester looks nothing like human.
[06:40] <fdoving> i don't remember the defaults.
[06:40] <yacoob> peaker, 8)
[06:40] <fdoving> ok.
[06:40] <BluesKaj> a cd burner for $30 is very common , just think of all the free apps in linux compared to $20 for evry little crappy program in windoes :)
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> man, a dvd burner for that price is very common
[06:41] <BluesKaj> hehe , 'morning N6REJ
[06:41] <N6REJ> ok, project of the moring.... I gotta get my webcam to work so that skype can work
[06:41] <raffytaffy> Daisuke_Ido ; hi , btw how much u think a dual layer burner is
[06:41] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, dvd burner even :)
[06:42] <chode> N6REJ, webcam on skype?
[06:42] <izaak> fdoving: oh i see, crystal is quite configurable. thanks.
[06:42] <BluesKaj> raffytaffy 60bucks here in Canada for a dual layer jobbie
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> raffytaffy: are you in the US?
[06:42] <izaak> i think it can look like human.
[06:42] <raffytaffy> yes
[06:42] <N6REJ> I've installed camorama and it says no video device
[06:42] <raffytaffy> new york
[06:42] <eilker>   i have 5 cd's as parts of an installation kit, i wanna make them a dvd , is it possible to do it ? may be via k3b ?
[06:42] <N6REJ> chode: yeah, works fine, but most importantly its my mic!
[06:43] <chode> N6REJ, didn;t know skype had webcam support
[06:43] <N6REJ> chode: yeah, for a long time
[06:43] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, I've just run into a problem.
[06:43] <raffytaffy> eilker : http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs
[06:43] <BluesKaj> eilker , yes as long as you have dvd+rw+tools version 7 or higgher installed
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> raffytaffy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136108
[06:44] <N6REJ> chode: any trick to getting a usb webcam to be recognized, or see if it is?
[06:44] <raffytaffy> not bad Daisuke_Ido
[06:44] <K-Ryan> Since Windows refuses to recognize my Windows partition, I have to move something physically. Now, to do this I chosen to use a floppy disk, however Kubuntu isn't recognizing it or anything. The little light isn't even on.
[06:44] <N6REJ> chode: right now the green light is on on it saying its active, which it shouldn't bee
[06:44] <K-Ryan> I think I have to mount it, assistance required.
[06:44] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: mount /dev/???
[06:44] <meme-1> Hello folks, Some apps like Open Office show my network in "Places" but most apps do not. Why not and how do I access my network from these apps?
[06:45] <raffytaffy> meme-1 do you have network-manager installed by any chance?
[06:45] <raffytaffy> (its a gnome app)
[06:45] <N6REJ> is there a way to look and see what hardware kubuntu knows about?
[06:46] <raffytaffy> lsmod
[06:46] <raffytaffy> eh
[06:46] <ma> hi all
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Sorry, what was that N6REJ?
[06:46] <ma> any idea what the ipw3945 package called ?
[06:47] <N6REJ> !mount K-Ryan
[06:47] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB
[06:47] <K-Ryan> ?
[06:47] <Daisuke_Ido> well that was fun
[06:47] <ma> or at least what package it is in
[06:47] <Daisuke_Ido> i guess i'm going to have to reinstall beryl too
[06:47] <meme-1> raffytaffy: Sorry... I was still searching Google for an answer to my question. Network Manager? You mean the daemon?
[06:47] <raffytaffy> is network-manager the app installed on your system
[06:48] <rigved> hi... can anyone pls help me with sharing internet connection from kubuntu machine to a windows xp machine
[06:48] <rigved> i ve read some articles with ip tables and stuff but that was complicated
[06:48] <rigved> just need to share internet connection from linux to windows
[06:48] <K-Ryan> How would I go about mounting the floppy drive?
[06:48] <ubuntu> sorry about that my computer froze
[06:48] <meme-1> raffytaffy: I looked up Network Manager in Synaptic and found a daemon that is not installed.
[06:48] <K-Ryan> It's not recognized at all by Kubuntu atm
[06:48] <ubuntu> are you guys still there
[06:49] <raffytaffy> ok meme-1 ..so you are running 6,10 kde only corect?
[06:49] <ubuntu> no
[06:49] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: normally mount /dev/fd0
[06:49] <ubuntu> 6.06
[06:49] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: is it active in bios?
[06:49] <K-Ryan> Not quite sure what you mean, sorry.
[06:49] <meme-1> raffytaffy: What will that do for me?  Like I said, I have no trouble connecting to my network in Open Office or through file manager.
[06:49] <N6REJ> !floppy | K-Ryan
[06:49] <K-Ryan> If you mean on bootup, yes.
[06:49] <ubotu> K-Ryan: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[06:49] <N6REJ> grrrr
[06:50] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: what is the actual problem?
[06:50] <raffytaffy> well there was this bug about network-manager causing some apps to run in "offline" mode such as gaim and some office apps
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Floppy drive, doesn't, work.
[06:50] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway, raffytaffy.  that drive is OEM, so no software...  like that's really an issue.  who uses roxio anyway, and then add the fact that you're not on evilwindows... :)
[06:50] <inject> how to view ntsf
[06:50] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: thats it?
[06:50] <inject> !ntfs
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Yes
[06:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:50] <K-Ryan> It works in Windows
[06:50] <K-Ryan> So it's not the drive
[06:50] <meme-1> raffytaffy: yes to your other question
[06:50] <raffytaffy> Daisuke_Ido : i only worry about linux compatibility. i dont use M$
[06:50] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> exactly
[06:51] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: wait one
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's a standard ide drive, so it should work just fine
[06:51] <K-Ryan> ;)
[06:51] <ubuntu> so raffytaffy what should i do
[06:51] <meme-1> raffytaffy: I hope I don't have to copy over my network files to a local volume just because some apps do not behave properly!
[06:51] <eilker> BluesKaj> <raffytaffy> thanx
[06:52] <raffytaffy> ok ubuntu i wasnt aware u asked me something. what issue do u have...and meme-1 i have no clue as of yet
[06:52] <raffytaffy> meme-1 perhaps ipv6 related?
[06:53] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrr I've forgotten the bot channel
[06:53] <vadim> hi 2 all!
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Awake?
[06:53] <meme-1> raffytaffy: I am finding that most applications do not show my network volumes in "places" - file loading dialog. So far, the ONLY app that shows my network volumes in "places" is Open Office.
[06:53] <ubuntu> raffytaffy
[06:53] <ubuntu> what do i do
[06:53] <ubuntu> have you made up that guide?
[06:53] <raffytaffy> ubuntu what guide?
[06:54] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: type sudo mount /dev/fd0 tell me what it says
[06:54] <ubuntu> oh
[06:54] <ubuntu> sorry
[06:54] <meme-1> raffytaffy: guide?
[06:54] <cotyrothery> i thought i had changed my name
[06:54] <raffytaffy> cotyrothery ahhh
[06:54] <cotyrothery> lol
[06:54] <raffytaffy> i was wondering who u were and asking me strange questions
[06:54] <peaker> Hmm the nvidia driver that comes with ubuntu's restricted package is not new enough for my nvidia card
[06:54] <K-Ryan> can't find /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:54] <raffytaffy> lol
[06:54] <cotyrothery> yea
[06:55] <cotyrothery> i was wondering who you were talking to
[06:55] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok, it doesn't know to look for your floppy at boot time
[06:55] <jaaroo> hello there, a strange thing happened to me now. The kcontrol module with keyboard layouts went mad and it shows nothing and permits no change. I suppose that something bad might happended to configuration files, but I don't know where they could be found. Any ideas?
[06:55] <raffytaffy> cotyrothery : basically i want you to mount your root partition during live session
[06:55] <raffytaffy> chroot into
[06:55] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:55] <N6REJ> !fstab |k-ryan
[06:55] <ubotu> k-ryan: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:55] <raffytaffy> and list some stuff
[06:55] <raffytaffy> i told u
[06:55] <cotyrothery> alright
[06:55] <K-Ryan> Should I just burn it do a cd?
[06:55] <inject> install driver for nvidia
[06:55] <raffytaffy> and show me result
[06:55] <N6REJ> !drives | k-ryan
[06:55] <cotyrothery> could you guide me through it
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <K-Ryan> Because it doesn't really have to be on a flopp[y
[06:55] <K-Ryan> *floppy
[06:55] <inject> install driver for nvidia
[06:55] <cotyrothery> i know i have to be in konsole
[06:55] <K-Ryan> I was just going to use it out of ease...
[06:55] <raffytaffy> yes
[06:55] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: what is your goal?
[06:56] <raffytaffy> open a terminal
[06:56] <raffytaffy> during live session
[06:56] <raffytaffy> no biggie
[06:56] <inject> !nvidia driver
[06:56] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <K-Ryan> I need to move a slidshow from my kubuntu partition to my windows partition
[06:56] <cotyrothery> working on that
[06:56] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: OIC
[06:56] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:56] <cotyrothery> i have it opened
[06:56] <K-Ryan> And needless to say, Windows uses an NTFS partition
[06:56] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: yeah
[06:56] <BluesKaj> !nvidia | inject
[06:56] <ubotu> inject: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:57] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: are you going to be doing this alot?
[06:57] <PhinnFort> !konsole-alpha
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole-alpha - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <PhinnFort> !info konsole-alpha
[06:57] <ubotu> Package konsole-alpha does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:57] <raffytaffy> please tell me you know how to mount things lol
[06:57] <cotyrothery> considering that im just begging to learn
[06:57] <cotyrothery> no i dont
[06:57] <philfo> question for anyone: if downloading kubuntu, does Kate need to remain open, and does it do anything?
[06:58] <raffytaffy> ok whats your root ? hd##?
[06:58] <raffytaffy> hda? hda1? etc etc
[06:58] <cotyrothery> um lol
[06:58] <K-Ryan> Sorry, no N6REJ
[06:58] <cotyrothery> i have no idea
[06:58] <N6REJ> morning phil, kate is a text editor.
[06:58] <K-Ryan> Just atm
[06:58] <philfo> ok
[06:58] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: thats ok.
[06:58] <philfo> thanks
[06:58] <inject> see ntfs partitions
[06:58] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: can you email things?
[06:58] <inject> see ntfs
[06:58] <raffytaffy> hmm
[06:58] <cotyrothery> i might end up giveing everyone a head ache
[06:58] <K-Ryan> Nope
[06:58] <K-Ryan> Actually..
[06:59] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: k, let me think for a second.
[06:59] <inject> !see ntfs
[06:59] <K-Ryan> I know the online aol thing doesn't work, I'll check yahoo
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about see ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <raffytaffy> what partitioner does KDE use
[06:59] <raffytaffy> ?
[06:59] <cotyrothery> dont know
[06:59] <chode> K-Ryan, u want to copy something to an ntfs from ubuntu.. or from windows and take some stuff from ext3 partition??
[06:59] <raffytaffy> see if you have gparted in your menu
[06:59] <raffytaffy> if so open it
[06:59] <adaptr> kparted
[06:59] <philfo> well, here's the deal, I downloaded kubuntu 6.10, right at download, Kate opened.  the download is complete, but I can't find the file.
[06:59] <cotyrothery> were in my menu
[06:59] <K-Ryan> From ext3 -> NTFS
[06:59] <N6REJ> chode: yeah, he can't get his floppy mounted to do it
[06:59] <adaptr> but that's a wild guess, of course
[06:59] <PhinnFort> qtparted
[07:00] <raffytaffy> ok open kparted
[07:00] <PhinnFort> !qtparted
[07:00] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[07:00] <K-Ryan> Yahoo should work...
[07:00] <N6REJ> philfo: there is a bug, I don't know why konqueror is doing that, but its opening binary files in kate!
[07:00] <N6REJ> doing it to me too
[07:00] <cotyrothery> no such thing
[07:00] <philfo> aha
[07:00] <raffytaffy> gparted?
[07:00] <N6REJ> you have to redl and tell it to save to a disk
[07:00] <philfo> use another browser?
[07:00] <N6REJ> *nod*
[07:00] <cotyrothery> yo said kparted
[07:00] <vadim> how can i make my system to boot directly to a graphic console? now it boots to tty1 and i have to press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to switch...
[07:00] <chode> K-Ryan, easiest way but this is not a total solution.. is if ur floppy works in windows... get a prog called "explore2fs" and from widnows u can access ext3 partitions
[07:00] <N6REJ> konq sucks use FF
[07:00] <raffytaffy> well try either one
[07:01] <philfo> damn.
[07:01] <BluesKaj> !gparted
[07:01] <raffytaffy> kparted or gparted
[07:01] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:01] <cotyrothery> neither wored
[07:01] <PhinnFort> !kparted
[07:01] <cotyrothery> worked
[07:01] <PhinnFort> !qtparted | raffytaffy
[07:01] <N6REJ> philfo: sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:01] <K-Ryan> I like Konq =)
[07:01] <inject> nvidea driver please help me
[07:01] <K-Ryan> chode, i'll take that into consideration, thanks
[07:01] <laptop> USA will attack iran on April 6 http://www.rense.com/general75/bite.htm
[07:01] <raffytaffy> PhinnFort ; lol i know what it is. its just that i never install kubuntu ,,,always ubuntu then i apt-get my kde
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <inject> how to install
[07:01] <ubotu> raffytaffy: qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[07:01] <K-Ryan> laptop, #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:01] <PhinnFort> raffytaffy: ;)
[07:01] <luapv> cotyrothery: check this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:01] <raffytaffy> so i wasnt sure which kubuntu comes with:P
[07:01] <chode> qtparted is pretty easy and nic
[07:01] <chode> *nice
[07:02] <K-Ryan> !nvidia | inject
[07:02] <ubotu> inject: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:02] <PhinnFort> i don't think qtparted is developed anymore
[07:02] <BluesKaj> gparted is more bug free and easier to use
[07:02] <raffytaffy> cor : if u dont know what your root partition label is i cant help u lol
[07:02] <cotyrothery>  yes it si
[07:02] <cotyrothery> i found it
[07:02] <neil__> Hey guys, I've got a system all set up with beryl, some custom apps, and a custom nvidia gfx driver setup that took ages to get right
[07:02] <raffytaffy> its gotta be like hda1 or sumfin
[07:02] <cotyrothery> qtparted
[07:02] <neil__> If I put kde on now, will it mess things up?
[07:02] <cotyrothery> i found it
[07:02] <N6REJ> anyone intimately familiar with pci-bus configuration?
[07:02] <raffytaffy> so open it
[07:03] <neil__> I want to convert to kubuntu ya see..
[07:03] <PhinnFort> neil__: no, it will make it work better
[07:03] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:03] <N6REJ> neil__: nope
[07:03] <PhinnFort> how it's supposed to be;)
[07:03] <cotyrothery> what is it
[07:03] <N6REJ> neil__: sudo apt-get install kde
[07:03] <raffytaffy> now select your harddrive from the list and tell me what partitions u have
[07:03] <philfo> anyplace recommended that I should save this giant file?
[07:03] <PhinnFort> kubuntu-desktop, maybe?
[07:03] <neil__> Cool, so I won't lose any of the apps I've added, beryl will work straight off, as will the nvidia drivers?
[07:03] <PhinnFort> !kubuntu-desktop
[07:03] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[07:03] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:03] <cotyrothery> hold on
[07:03] <raffytaffy> ok
[07:03] <cotyrothery> it has to start up
[07:03] <cotyrothery> lol
[07:03] <N6REJ> neil__: don't know about that.  As you'll be changing desktops
[07:03] <PhinnFort> neil__: you can choose between gnome and kde when login in, afaik
[07:04] <neil__> yeah..
[07:04] <PhinnFort> neil__: KDE shouldn't touch Gnome's stuff
[07:04] <neil__> cool
[07:04] <BluesKaj> yeah neil__ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:04] <PhinnFort> neil__: you can just go back if it doesn't work, afaik
[07:04] <raffytaffy> cotyrothery : out of curiosity...did u do something foolish like installing windows AFTER a linux install?
[07:04] <cotyrothery> um no
[07:04] <jaaroo> Somehow my keyboard layouts stopped working today. I'd like to know if anyone ever had similar problem and if someone knows what could be done with this. See screenshot: http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/142/layoutsjm4.png
[07:04] <raffytaffy> ok
[07:04] <eXistenZ> Does anyone here use black background on white text who can send me a screenshot?
[07:04] <neil__> thanks PhinnFort :)
[07:04] <philfo> see y'all on the other side.
[07:04] <K-Ryan> alright, thanks guys, back to windows
[07:04] <cotyrothery> i dont have a windows cd
[07:04] <PhinnFort> neil__: no problem, good luck;)
[07:04] <raffytaffy> so all of a sudden you cant boot into linux yes?
[07:05] <cotyrothery> I am just now trying to get linux to work
[07:05] <raffytaffy> did you install it?
[07:05] <cotyrothery> I have just resently started
[07:05] <cotyrothery> yes
[07:05] <N6REJ> !webcam
[07:05] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:05] <inject> how tu liste mp4
[07:05] <inject> how tu liste mp3
[07:05] <PhinnFort> !mp3
[07:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:05] <raffytaffy> and it worked?.....untill.....
[07:05] <inject> how to listen mp3
[07:05] <cotyrothery> nope
[07:05] <PhinnFort> !mp3 | inject
[07:05] <ubotu> inject: please see above
[07:05] <cotyrothery> it never worked
[07:05] <inject> ok
[07:05] <raffytaffy> which distro u install?
[07:05] <inject> i understand
[07:05] <prucor> Hello
[07:06] <cotyrothery> what
[07:06] <PhinnFort> inject: good, good
[07:06] <prucor> Is there any way to add all users to a group?
[07:06] <raffytaffy> kubuntu ? ubuntu? which ver?
[07:06] <vadim> guys, how can i manipulate on which terminal my system boots?
[07:06] <cotyrothery> i have tried all of them
[07:06] <cotyrothery> none of them worked
[07:06] <inject> vadim vhat is u asl
[07:06] <raffytaffy> but which do u have installed right now
[07:06] <inject> vadim vhat is u asl
[07:06] <cotyrothery> well kubuntu
[07:06] <raffytaffy> inject stop spaming
[07:06] <vadim> inject: ?
[07:07] <luapv> raffytaffy: try this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:07] <raffytaffy> ok kubuntu. so you went thru entire install process , rebooted and ?
[07:07] <inject> from where u are
[07:07] <inject> ?
[07:07] <cotyrothery> nothing happened
[07:07] <raffytaffy> luapv: i dont have windows partitions lol
[07:07] <PhinnFort> inject: stf, mkay?
[07:07] <vadim> inject: Moldova
[07:07] <cotyrothery> i got a no operating system found message
[07:07] <neil__> So, adding kubuntu desktop will install kde into its own directory, and all of kde's apps?
[07:07] <PhinnFort> !offtopic | inject
[07:07] <ubotu> inject: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:07] <neil__> Can't understand why more people dont do that..
[07:07] <inject> eu tot wai baiere
[07:07] <neil__> unless they do :P
[07:07] <raffytaffy> cotyrothery : have u considered that u have a bad HF
[07:07] <raffytaffy> HD
[07:07] <raffytaffy> hard drive
[07:08] <inject> dami id tau?
[07:08] <PhinnFort> neil__: more or less
[07:08] <cotyrothery> Could that be why?
[07:08] <luapv> raffytaffy: sorry, thought you were referring to partitions
[07:08] <inject> dami id tau?
[07:08] <inject> pe mess
[07:08] <raffytaffy> yes, bad sectors on a HD will cause that darn "no OS found" message
[07:08] <cotyrothery> It has always worked before
[07:08] <Tm_T> neil__: er, kde and apps to own dir?
[07:08] <cotyrothery> with storage
[07:08] <inject> vadim dami id tau
[07:08] <vadim> inject: ai Skype instalat?
[07:08] <cotyrothery> it has always been my storage hd
[07:09] <Tm_T> vadim: inject: english only
[07:09] <inject> nu yahoo
[07:09] <raffytaffy> wait..you installed linux on a external HD?
[07:09] <BluesKaj> !ops | inject
[07:09] <inject> ok
[07:09] <vadim> Tm_T: ok
[07:09] <cotyrothery> yes
[07:09] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: I'm here
[07:09] <cotyrothery> well internal
[07:09] <ubotu> inject: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[07:09] <cotyrothery> i have two internal HD's
[07:09] <kelsa|martalli> vadim - what lang was that?
[07:09] <raffytaffy> ok
[07:09] <raffytaffy> ok
[07:09] <inject> how i can to speak  tu private
[07:09] <inject> ?
[07:09] <BluesKaj> this inject guy is spamming and won't stop, Tm_T
[07:09] <raffytaffy> lets do this
[07:09] <neil__> Tm_t by own dir, I mean seperately
[07:09] <Riddell> BluesKaj: ?
[07:09] <neil__> so it wont go and rape any of my configuration etc
[07:09] <PhinnFort> kelsa|martalli: if we had kde4, we would know;)
[07:09] <raffytaffy> open a terminal
[07:09] <Tm_T> inject: /msg person message
[07:09] <inject> ok all
[07:09] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:09] <raffytaffy> now type this
[07:09] <PhinnFort> kelsa|martalli: darn good language detection, according to what i've heard
[07:10] <raffytaffy> sudo grub
[07:10] <kelsa|martalli> When is it due out?
[07:10] <Tm_T> Riddell: nothing here, move along ;)
[07:10] <vadim> inject: vlad_ri@yahoo.com; Skype: vlad_ri
[07:10] <inject> inject: /dasmdmsa vadim
[07:10] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:10] <cotyrothery> now what
[07:10] <kelsa|martalli> PhinnFort, I don't know if it would integrate well with my xchat, though =)
[07:10] <raffytaffy> "find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:10] <PhinnFort> kelsa|martalli: ;)
[07:10] <cotyrothery> alright
[07:10] <cotyrothery> one sec
[07:10] <PhinnFort> kelsa|martalli: tried konversation?
[07:11] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:11] <cotyrothery> did that
[07:11] <Tm_T> neil__: separately?
[07:11] <kelsa|martalli> PhinnFort, Not yet.  I tried kvirc and I wasn't impressed.  kopete is cleaner looking'
[07:11] <raffytaffy> what did it tell you?
[07:11] <cotyrothery> it gave me two drives
[07:11] <PhinnFort> kelsa|martalli: kvirc is, imho, crap
[07:11] <cotyrothery> (hd1,0)
[07:11] <raffytaffy> write them here
[07:11] <cotyrothery> and
[07:11] <cotyrothery> (hd1,2)
[07:11] <neil__> Tm_T: seperate from gnome, as in no overlap, no messing with my current gnome install which I've just got working properly
[07:11] <raffytaffy> ok give me 1 sec. dont go anywhere
[07:11] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:11] <neil__> I want it to run 'alongside' as it were, no interference
[07:12] <raffytaffy> which is your linux on
[07:12] <Tm_T> neil__: well ofcourse they don't "overlap" in that way ;)
[07:12] <raffytaffy> of those 2
[07:12] <cotyrothery> i dont know
[07:12] <raffytaffy> well ok
[07:12] <raffytaffy> we can try each
[07:12] <raffytaffy> now type
[07:12] <kelsa|martalli> xchat is nice, though, in that it is very text-oriented, as is irc in general.  I've been using irc since 1989...with dumb terminals and even telnetting in.  I'm pretty comfortable with the text interface\
[07:12] <raffytaffy> "root hd(1,0)
[07:12] <kelsa|martalli> I will give konversation a try on my kde box at home tonioght, though
[07:12] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:12] <raffytaffy> now type
[07:12] <raffytaffy> "setup (hd0)
[07:12] <cotyrothery> hold on
[07:13] <cotyrothery> it said
[07:13] <Tm_T> kelsa|martalli: my choice has been irssi for a long time (:
[07:13] <cotyrothery> unreconized device
[07:13] <raffytaffy> ok
[07:13] <raffytaffy> then do
[07:13] <cotyrothery> if this is to install grub
[07:13] <raffytaffy> root (hd1,2)
[07:13] <cotyrothery> then i have done this
[07:13] <kelsa|martalli> Tm_T, Is that an ncurses client, or is it graphical and text oriented, like xchat?
[07:13] <cotyrothery> ok did it
[07:13] <raffytaffy> not type
[07:13] <Tm_T> kelsa|martalli: ncurses-like
[07:14] <raffytaffy> setup (hd0)
[07:14] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:14] <Tm_T> kelsa|martalli: can't imagine me using GUI client
[07:14] <cotyrothery> it installed grub
[07:14] <raffytaffy> now...reboot and see if it worked...if not..repeat the above steps..only with the last line :setup (hd1):
[07:15] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:15] <firecrotch> I'm looking for an editor that can handle binary files.  I know about beav, but it just doesn't cut it for what I need it for
[07:18] <N6REJ> !nvidia
[07:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:19] <PhinnFort> firecrotch: how about khexedit?
[07:20] <surgy> i need to know how to mount a bin and a cue file using a virtual cdrom
[07:21] <neil__> I have another shell related question :) What is the command to pipe output of a script to a file or /dev/null?
[07:21] <BluesKaj> surgy, try AcetoneISO
[07:21] <neil__> So it executes it, and instead of giving you the output, its funnelled to a file
[07:22] <BluesKaj> !AcetoneISO
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acetoneiso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll have to convert the bin/cue to an iso, which acetoneISO will do really quickly and easily
[07:23] <BluesKaj> it's a great proggie , Daisuke_Ido
[07:25] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: they have debs
[07:25] <gissi> Guys, don't know if anyone noticed that but, after an update I ran yesterday, the window style is very ugly. Anyone knows what happened?
[07:25] <fdoving> gissi: feisty?
[07:25] <PupenoR> Does anybody know the format of the exceptions on konqueror's proxy list? I've listed localhost and when I try to access http://localhost:4444/ it still tries to use the proxy.
[07:25] <gissi> yes
[07:25] <fdoving> gissi: try to update again, there was a qt issue.
[07:26] <N6REJ> any nvidia experts here?
[07:26] <gissi> fdoving: ok, thanks
[07:26] <PupenoR> N6REJ: I'd say just ask your question.
[07:26] <N6REJ> PupenoR: well, I asked that because its fairly technical and company specific, I know the routine LOL... .
[07:26] <N6REJ> anyway!
[07:27] <meme-2> Besides Open Office, is any Linux app capable of loading files over a network? This is soooo frustrating that I cannot see my network in any app but Open Office!
[07:27] <neil__> www.linux.org , dead for anyone else?!
[07:27] <fdoving> PupenoR: tried to add  http://localhost:4444/ to the list?
[07:27] <PupenoR> N6REJ: I believe there's an nvidia channel here.
[07:27] <PupenoR> fdoving: yes, same error.
[07:27] <voicu> if i want to build something from source and the ./configure file has a --prefix option that means that everything will be installed in the directory i tell him to, right?
[07:27] <N6REJ> GeForce FX 5200 128mb 8x AGP, technically its listed in the legacy list, I know its supported by the lasted nvidia drivers on nvidia.com
[07:27] <N6REJ> PupenoR: there is?
[07:27] <meme-2> Even using smb://..... yields the error, ""cannot change to folder because it is not local"
[07:28] <PupenoR> N6REJ: yes.
[07:28] <fdoving> meme-2: openoffice does not support the regular kde kio-slaves. so it's very limited in that way.
[07:28] <meme-2> I noticed a few people asked about this (Google search) but no one answered.
[07:28] <N6REJ> PupenoR: ty! that might be useful, I'll try that first
[07:28] <mrbrdo> hey guys, i'm having problems with Aquamarine for Beryl.. beryl-manager doesn't seem to detect it. I'm on edgy, i use ubuntu.beryl-project.org repository
[07:28] <meme-2> fdoving: No, I said Open Office is the ONLY app that seems to support networking.
[07:28] <mrbrdo> a manual way to configure is ok for me too, anything that will work
[07:29] <alvaro> ola
[07:29] <cotyrothery> it did not work
[07:29] <alvaro> alguien de Espaa?
[07:29] <fdoving> meme-2: oh. what other apps are you trying to use then?
[07:29] <cotyrothery> were running out of options i beleive
[07:29] <fdoving> !es | alvaro
[07:29] <ubotu> alvaro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:30] <meme-2> fdoving: everything else basically... ex. Amaya, Xara Xtreme, etc.
[07:30] <fdoving> meme-2: they are both nonfree, don't expect them to cooperate well with the rest of the system.
[07:30] <jim88> neil_ did you get your answer to question about stretched screen I am still having the problem
[07:31] <cotyrothery> so what should i do now
[07:31] <jim88> !neil_
[07:31] <meme-2> Is anyone out there using Ubuntu on a network?
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about neil_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <cotyrothery> should i go ahead and just formate my other drive
[07:33] <hsystem-x> Hi, how could I upgrade my dapper version to edgy 6.10, i want to upgrade from cd. I already apt-cdrom add, and apt-get update, but apt-get dist-upgrade, does not make the upgrade. 0 upgrades 0 newly installed. ANy ideas?
[07:33] <fdoving> hsystem-x: you need the alternate install cd to do that.
[07:33] <hsystem-x> already d0*
[07:33] <hsystem-x> ohh...
[07:34] <hsystem-x> then the alternate cd will upgrade my system without deleting my files, right?
[07:34] <cotyrothery> is there a way to do remote connection
[07:34] <fdoving> hsystem-x: right.
[07:34] <inject> vadim: ?
[07:35] <inject> vadim: ?
[07:35] <vadim> kelsa|martalli: romania :)
[07:35] <vadim> kelsa|martalli: romanian*
[07:35] <inject> wa ciuvac
[07:35] <jim88> can anyone help with a stretched screen I tried the X11 fix and it didnt work
[07:35] <inject> de ce nu esti pe IM
[07:35] <hsystem-x> fdoving: Other installation options including 64 bit CD images and alternative installation methods for OEM computers and computers with less than 192MB RAM
[07:35] <kelsa|martalli> vadim, thanks
[07:35] <cotyrothery> I'm just going to reinstall
[07:35] <hsystem-x> that's the one you are telling
[07:36] <hsystem-x> right?
[07:36] <fdoving> hsystem-x: yep.
[07:36] <vadim> kelsa|martalli: sorry, i haven't seen your quetion from the start :)
[07:36] <cotyrothery> anyone here have the same trouble im having
[07:36] <jim88> can anyone help with a stretched screen I tried the X11 fix and it didnt work
[07:38] <Bonaldo2000> Can anyone tell me what might be the reason that no matter what shortcut I set to open konsole, it doesnt work? I can set shortcut to change desktop f.ex, but this just won't work.
[07:38] <BluesKaj> jim88, have you tried : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[07:38] <jim88> can anyone help with a stretched screen problem .. I tried the X11 fix and it didnt work
[07:38] <cotyrothery> were is everyone that was helping me?
[07:38] <panoulini> kalimera
[07:38] <jim88> no I will try that one
[07:39] <hsystem-x> do you have an intel911?
[07:39] <hsystem-x> jim88?
[07:39] <hsystem-x> there is a fix on synaptic for intel 911 stretched screen, that's a resolution fix.
[07:39] <hsystem-x> "widescreen"
[07:40] <jim88> yes
[07:40] <jim88> the screen is very wide
[07:40] <jim88> but aI dont think it's a intel911
[07:40] <jim88> it's a KDS VS-7p
[07:41] <hsystem-x> on console type lspci and press enter, make sure is not an intel..
[07:41] <jim88> with ion of DPMS and hoizsync :30-72 and Vertrefresh of 50-160
[07:41] <hsystem-x> and you already tried searching for the drivers?
[07:42] <jim88> ir was working until yesterday after the upgrade
[07:42] <jim88> it
[07:44] <Bonaldo2000> also: my x-server seems to hang every time I restart or shut down my computer...any ideas?
[07:44] <slestak> hmm.  after upgrading from edgy to feisty, my users acct .Xauthority is now owned by root.  chowns and whatnot, it is still owned by root.
[07:44] <AaronCampbell> I just finished building a new system, and I'm trying to instll Feisty.  I'm having problems with my bluetooth kb/mouse.  They worked during boot (to choose install, etc), but once it booted, If I press a key I get "KBlueToothD .... Not paired"
[07:45] <jim88> sorry the upgrade was the adept-update
[07:46] <Kevlar_Soul> FREE  VISIO for Linux  http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Download
[07:46] <underdog5004> what's visio, Kevlar_Soul ?
[07:47] <Kevlar_Soul> underdog5004: www.visio.com
[07:48] <Alonea> oh, thats that engineering like program right?
[07:48] <Kevlar_Soul> underdog5004: basically map out organizational structures and office space visually
[07:48] <Kevlar_Soul> no its  for making visual aid
[07:48] <Kevlar_Soul> aids
[07:48] <Alonea> i had that for a while. Was messing with the office 2007
[07:48] <tsdgeos> Kevlar_Soul: so you needed the feel to spam us about dia?
[07:48] <Kevlar_Soul> Yeah I love it, Im a big organizational freak
[07:48] <tsdgeos> spamming sucks
[07:48] <Kevlar_Soul> needed the feel to spam?
[07:49] <Bluedog> can anyone else get to www.linux.org ?
[07:49] <Bluedog> fails for me
[07:49] <Kevlar_Soul> spam means an ad to purchase, or repeating something over and over, neither of which Ive done..........
[07:49] <Alonea> it had stuff for electricity and stuff, so yes it could be considered engineering of sorts. (as in diagrams for structures, etc.)
[07:50] <meme-2> Is anyone out there using ubuntu on a network? Why are most Linux (or at least in ubuntu) apps only capable of running in local mode... making it "impossible" to load files from a network? Even using smb://..... yields the error, ""cannot change to folder because it is not local" The ONLY app I've found that works well is Open Office.
[07:52] <FJ_Sanchez> Hello
[07:52] <BluesKaj> meme2 , try komba2
[07:52] <FJ_Sanchez> I want a script being exec as root at login time for each user, where should I place it?
[07:53] <fdoving> meme-2: most apps expect you or some other program (like smb4k) to mount remote shares to local folders (mount-points) for programs to access. that way the network-ness is transparent to the applications.
[07:53] <fdoving> FJ_Sanchez: what should it do?
[07:53] <BluesKaj> meme-2, it's a samba browser
[07:53] <FJ_Sanchez> Add a user to a group
[07:54] <fdoving> FJ_Sanchez: why do you want to do that on login?
[07:54] <FJ_Sanchez> fdoving: I'm using a network boot system, it loads an image of a GNU/Linux installation
[07:54] <FJ_Sanchez> The users are from a NIS server
[07:54] <FJ_Sanchez> And I've more than 5000 users, so i don't want to add every user to every groupof the /etc/group
[07:55] <FJ_Sanchez> It would be an enormous file
[07:55] <fdoving> FJ_Sanchez: ah. ok. but you need to execute that before the user-login for the shell to pick it up.
[07:55] <meme-2> fdoving: My network volumes are mounted in File Browser. What more do I need to do? Anyhow, like I stated, Open Office works perfectly with networking... why are so many other apps not?
[07:55] <FJ_Sanchez> If I do it before login I don't know the username...
[07:56] <BluesKaj> meme-2 , are you trying komba2 ?
[07:56] <xst> How can I make knetworkmanager remember the WPA passwords I enter. Even when I reboot and try to connect to the same wireless network again?
[07:56] <AaronCampbell> I just finished building a new system, and I'm trying to instll Feisty.  I'm having problems with my bluetooth kb/mouse.  They worked during boot (to choose install, etc), but once it booted, If I press a key I get "KBlueToothD .... Not paired"
[07:56] <fdoving> meme-2: because openoffice and most KDE apps support network kio-slaves like smb:// and ftp:// sftp:// and so on.
[07:57] <fdoving> xst: doesn't it do that automatically, with kwallet?
[07:57] <FJ_Sanchez> What I want is to add a user to a group on the fly
[07:57] <xst> fdoving: kwallet? I do not use kwallet, I guess
[07:57] <meme-2> BluesKaj: But how will komba2 help me load network files in programs like Amaya, Dia, Xara Extreme, etc...?
[07:59] <meme-2> fdoving: Most? So far only OpenOffice seems to allow me to load files over the network. Everything else I've tried fails. I'm at a complete loss here.... what exactly do I need to do?
[08:00] <fdoving> meme-2: get smb4k or komba2 and mount the network shares to local mountpoints (folders), then use those folders to access the network shares transparent to the apps.
[08:00] <meme-2> fdoving: ok... I shall try that.
[08:00] <constrictor> has anyone here had this issue writer from openoffice.org just closes as soon as you launch it in feisty
[08:00] <BluesKaj> it will give you read write and copy access , meme-2... Im on a small home network with windows and linux boxes that have access to one another...you have to remember to "share" the folders tho
[08:01] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: did you use samba or nfs?
[08:01] <drumer> esly
[08:01] <N6REJ> !fr | drumer
[08:01] <ubotu> drumer: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:01] <frojnd> does kopete support goggle talk ?
[08:02] <frojnd> google*
[08:02] <drumer> ubotu, I need czech
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i need czech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <abattoir> !cz
[08:03] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[08:03] <abattoir> drumer: ^^^^
[08:05] <|troy|> test :D
[08:06] <N6REJ> hmmm I like the smilies in kvirc but I don't know that I like the rest
[08:09] <BluesKaj> N6REJ, I used smb4k, then I install komba2 . komba2 seemed to find the network in a 20secs or so and it was simple to set things up with it
[08:09] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: what about on the server?
[08:12] <BluesKaj> server ? ..I'm just using a simple workgroup setup , with windows and linux...  MSHOME/ + WORGROUP ec
[08:12] <BluesKaj> etc
[08:13] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: ah.  Well I've got a "server" here that I want to be the file repository for the lan.  So I've been trying ( without much success ) to get samba to work
[08:14] <BluesKaj> it should still work , N6REJ
[08:14] <N6REJ> well, I can understand that, thats whats supposed to happen but I'll be danged if I can get it to do it.  I'm missing some key step
[08:14] <meme-2> Hey folks, I installed Komba2 but when I try to mount my network volumes, I get the following error: "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts"
[08:15] <meme-2> wait... does that mean I need to sudo komba2?
[08:15] <BluesKaj> N6REJ, try komba2 , i had a prob with samba too ...din't understand the terminology in the setup wizard ...komba autoscanned the network and within 2 min Ihad access to the wifes windows pc
[08:16] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: k, I'll give it a go in a second.
[08:16] <chode> access to the wifes?
[08:16] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: java is installing this second.
[08:16] <chode> how many have u got?
[08:17] <BluesKaj> meme2 , sudo dpkg-statoverride --update --add root root 4755 $(which smbmnt)'
[08:17] <vadim> guys, how can i manipulate on which terminal my system boots?
[08:18] <Bluedog> How do you open a program on terminal
[08:18] <Bluedog> and pipe any output to a file?
[08:18] <Bluedog> instead of it sitting in the terminal
[08:18] <N6REJ> Bluedog: there are lots of ways but cat program >> filename is the easiest
[08:19] <vadim> Bluedog: use '>', example: ls > test.txt
[08:19] <Bluedog> will that leave the program running?
[08:19] <N6REJ> bluedog nope
[08:19] <Bluedog> It's a little daemon that sits there spewing out server messages as it runs into the shell
[08:19] <Bluedog> I want it to stay running, but not use up a terminal window
[08:19] <N6REJ> vadim: I can never remember if > is append or >> is append
[08:19] <N6REJ> Bluedog: like what?
[08:20] <Bluedog> connection accepted, this error output, etc.. its all echoed to the shell you open it with
[08:20] <vadim> bye guys
[08:20] <Bluedog> I want it to run but not put these messages into a terminal, as closing the terminal closes the app
[08:20] <LeeJunFan> N6REJ: just try to remeber that a > appended to another > is to append :)
[08:20] <N6REJ> Bluedog: OH, switch off of tty1 and that won't happen.
[08:21] <Bluedog> How do you do that? :D
[08:21] <N6REJ> LeeJunFan: THAT makes sense!
[08:21] <N6REJ> alt f2 or f3 or whatever
[08:21] <N6REJ> I don't remember how to hide the output to tty1 from con
[08:21] <N6REJ> in single user mode
[08:22] <Bluedog> ok :D ill have a look around
[08:22] <Bluedog> ta
[08:22] <N6REJ> Bluedog: it has to do with your debug output settings
[08:24] <N6REJ> darn, adept-install is frozen
[08:25] <AbortD> i love the top command :D
[08:25] <N6REJ> AbortD: yep
[08:25] <Bluedog> www.sourceforge.net Is this giving 500 for anyone else??
[08:26] <N6REJ> AbortD: hit was not displaying the prompt for me to hit enter on the details page LOL
[08:26] <AbortD> :p
[08:26] <DarkED> does anyone else think ktorrent is slow (download speed wise) compared to, say, utorrent?
[08:26] <N6REJ> Bluedog: yep
[08:26] <AbortD> i love utorrent
[08:26] <Bluedog> thanks N6REJ.. dont think I've seen SF go down before :P
[08:26] <justin__> Can Anyone help me with KCron!!!!
[08:27] <bodo> hello
[08:27] <AbortD> dunno why bu kubuntu rapes my xorg i may switch back to gnome
[08:27] <N6REJ> Bluedog: it could simply be overcrowded at this momemnt
[08:27] <N6REJ> AbortD: huh?
[08:27] <Daisuke_Ido> that... didn't make any sense
[08:27] <justin__> Anyone know how to bring up a URL for AN Audio Stream Using KCron?
[08:27] <bodo> does somebody knows how to do a remote desktop connection between winXP and kubuntu?
[08:28] <AbortD> can someone tell me what the hell this is?
[08:28] <AbortD> sudo apt-get -f install
[08:28] <AbortD> Password:
[08:28] <AbortD> Sorry, try again.
[08:28] <justin__> abortd wrong password
[08:28] <AaronCampbell> I'm installing feisty, but I can't figure out how to pair my bluetooth Keyboard and mouse.  Anyone know where I can find a howto or something?
[08:28] <AbortD> i never enter the wrong pw
[08:28] <justin__> what are you trying to install
[08:29] <N6REJ> AbortD: never say never
[08:29] <AbortD> NEVER!
[08:29] <AbortD> :P
[08:29] <bodo> why don't you wait until feisty comes to the final?
[08:29] <N6REJ> lol
[08:29] <justin__> I agree with bodo
[08:29] <bodo> :D
[08:29] <N6REJ> yep
[08:29] <bodo> it's a matter of weeks :P
[08:30] <justin__> Edgy was the same wayh before release
[08:30] <justin__> the tests for me were terrible
[08:30] <AaronCampbell> It's a new system, and a new install.  Since feisty will be final within a month, I thought it would be a waste to install/upgrade
[08:30] <AbortD> how do i take kubuntu out of military time?
[08:30] <bodo> edgy is my first linux,i installed it like some weeks ago
[08:30] <bodo> i heard that you can't send files with kopete to ymessenger 8 windows users
[08:30] <bodo> it's not true
[08:31] <AaronCampbell> Still, I doubt the procedure is much different, anyone know how to pair in edgy?
[08:31] <hsystem-x> right click your clock and click on date & time format
[08:31] <bodo> yes,i know
[08:31] <hsystem-x> that's the way you can change your time format AbortD.
[08:32] <AbortD> hahahaha i didnt see then when i right clicked before
[08:32] <AbortD> thanks for helping my retardedness
[08:32] <hsystem-x> jeje.
[08:32] <justin__> Cron, KCRON, anyone????
[08:32] <N6REJ> brb gotta reboot
[08:32] <bodo> soo...somebody knows how to make an Remote Desktop Connection between kubunu and winxp?
[08:32] <bodo> :D
[08:32] <AbortD> vlc?
[08:33] <justin__> sorry bodo, don't know
[08:33] <bodo> i downloaded nx
[08:33] <bodo> it has dependencies:((
[08:33] <bodo> ok,justin
[08:33] <BluesKaj> !remote
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <AbortD> bodo try to install it then do sudo apt-get -f install
[08:33] <inject> now kubuntu is my new friend
[08:33] <inject> :))
[08:34] <BluesKaj> !remote-desktop
[08:34] <bodo> install it like via kubuntu package menu?
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <AbortD> bodo did you see what i just typed?
[08:34] <bodo> yes
[08:34] <AbortD> try that
[08:34] <bodo> install what?nxserver?
[08:34] <AbortD> hen your nsx or whatever u called it should work
[08:34] <hsystem-x> bodo, click on you k menu then click on internet and finally click on Remote Desktop
[08:35] <AbortD> if thats what will do it for you to get the dependencies sudo apt-get -f install
[08:35] <bodo> it doesn't work,it says something about server(remote via kmenu)
[08:35] <AbortD> ....
[08:35] <bodo> apt-get -f resolves dependencies?
[08:36] <bodo> i am a total n00b in linux
[08:36] <AbortD> i guess it worked for me
[08:36] <soulrider_> ive donde remote desktop with some of my friend
[08:36] <bodo> k,i shall try
[08:36] <AbortD> the command is (sudo apt-get -f install)
[08:36] <bodo> ok
[08:36] <bodo> sudo is for root acces?
[08:36] <soulrider_> the one being connected to must open krfb and the one connecting krdc
[08:36] <peaker> did knode change its name?
[08:36] <soulrider_> bodo: yeah
[08:36] <N6REJ> !sudo | bodo
[08:36] <ubotu> bodo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:37] <bodo> ok,i know now
[08:37] <soulrider_> inject: how you liking your new friend ?
[08:37] <AbortD> yes it is for root
[08:37] <AbortD> you have to sudo to install
[08:37] <soulrider_> hi N6REJ, hi BluesKaj
[08:37] <peaker> knode is not accessible in kubuntu?
[08:37] <BluesKaj> hi soulrider_
[08:37] <bodo> knode?
[08:37] <bodo> what's that?
[08:37] <N6REJ> hey soulrider_
[08:37] <N6REJ> ok, now to fix samba *sigh*
[08:38] <bodo> sudo apt-get -f install deleted the package :((
[08:38] <AbortD> uhhhh
[08:38] <soulrider_> N6REJ: seems youve been having lots of problems lately =/
[08:38] <AbortD> -f install resolves dependencies
[08:38] <N6REJ> soulrider_: yep, but I'm whittling them down one at a time.
[08:38] <N6REJ> just got nvidia up to snuff
[08:38] <BluesKaj> N6REJ, what email prog are you thinking of using ?
[08:38] <soulrider_> i use kmail
[08:38] <soulrider_> its simple but nice
[08:39] <soulrider_> i have no use for kontact though
[08:39] <thomas_> i use thunderbird
[08:39] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: well, I need to use kontact, so its likely kmail
[08:39] <BluesKaj> yup, same soulrider_
[08:39] <bodo> output of sudo apt-get -f intall
[08:39] <N6REJ> I always have used TB, but I don't like one tiny thing the lightening app does... no sound notification. and no easy way to access todo list.
[08:39] <edmetal> sera
[08:40] <N6REJ> soulrider_: you know why I need it.
[08:40] <inject> !key shortcuts
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about key shortcuts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <soulrider_> i think you cant minimize it to tray eiother
[08:40] <bodo> next packages will be deleted: nxserver
[08:40] <N6REJ> soulrider_: yes you cna
[08:40] <soulrider_> ah, cool
[08:40] <inject> !key shortcuts
[08:40] <N6REJ> soulrider_: the calendar app stays in tray :D
[08:40] <soulrider_> ah
[08:40] <soulrider_> you know whats kinda cool? Opera! Its browser, calendar, email
[08:40] <BluesKaj> thunderbird was fine til i had probs with X and after I fixed xorg , thunderbird would no longer link to FF ..dunno why tried several times to completely remoc=ve and reinstall , but to no avail so i installed Kmail ...works fine
[08:40] <soulrider_> everything you need
[08:41] <N6REJ> soulrider_: you know I never thought about that.
[08:41] <AbortD> how can i make wlassistant connect me to the net when i boot up?
[08:41] <soulrider_> opera is just fabulous :)
[08:41] <N6REJ> let me try opera, that would be nice.
[08:41] <N6REJ> yes, opera is nice.
[08:41] <BluesKaj> opera email?
[08:41] <soulrider_> ive been using Opera since like Opera 6
[08:41] <soulrider_> opera the browser, it already has email in it
[08:42] <qsu> anybody already known about the website http://www.joost.com
[08:42] <BluesKaj> you mean webmail
[08:42] <soulrider_> BluesKaj: no, opera hte program
[08:42] <soulrider_> qsu: it sounds familiar, let me open it
[08:43] <soulrider_> qsu: nope, i hadnt seen it
[08:44] <BluesKaj> opera email is opera webmail ...like gmail , yahoomail, or hotmail
[08:44] <bodo> :((((((( where do I find the nxserver package? :(
[08:44] <jim88> BluesKaj ... I tried your fix for the "wide screen" and it still did not fix the problem ... I saw that neil_ had the same issue earlier
[08:45] <N6REJ> soulrider_: where's the calendar feature? is that a widget?
[08:45] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: its webmail?
[08:46] <BluesKaj> yup, webmail
[08:46] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[08:46] <soulrider_> BluesKaj: uh m?
[08:46] <soulrider_> hold on N6REJ
[08:46] <AbortD> !kmem
[08:46] <BluesKaj> jim88,  system settings/monitor&display/hardware /admin mode/graphics card configure , then monitor configure, apply . Then you should be able to reset your resolution.
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <soulrider_> i knew it! my mom has been using my computer!
[08:47] <N6REJ> says its pop or imap
[08:47] <AbortD> !Ipadmin
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <N6REJ> hahahah
[08:47] <soulrider_> how the hell did she figure out how to open the k menu and find opera?!
[08:47] <BluesKaj> soulrider , it's not a seperate email ptogram like kmail or thunderbird
[08:48] <AbortD> !wlassistant
[08:48] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: which means opera needs to be open all the time?
[08:48] <ubotu> wlassistant: User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 115 kB, installed size 572 kB
[08:48] <soulrider_> i was sure opera had a calendar
[08:48] <N6REJ> soulrider_: parents aren't stupid you know
[08:48] <soulrider_> lol i know
[08:48] <soulrider_> but
[08:48] <soulrider_> my kmenu is at the top
[08:48] <AbortD> damn give me a link
[08:48] <soulrider_> its a tiny icon
[08:48] <N6REJ> lol
[08:48] <soulrider_> unless she used katapult!
[08:49] <AbortD> how can i make wlassistant connect me to the net when i boot up?
[08:49] <N6REJ> well, that only leaves Koffice if I don't use kontact
[08:49] <chode> N6REJ, i read some where that some guys mom copies a file from a pc.. unplugs the mouse from that pc plug the mouse in another pc and tries right lick.. pasteing it... so u say they r not stupid?
[08:50] <soulrider_> i tried koffice and i thought it was ugly, i like OOo a lot better
[08:50] <soulrider_> LOL chode
[08:50] <N6REJ> chode: thats funny, but if your not computer savy its makes alot of sense!
[08:50] <Beo> Is there a line command for terminating Adept?  It say's it's already running, but I can't find an instance of it
[08:50] <AbortD> they should have a mouse like that :P
[08:50] <soulrider_> Beo: sudo killall adept
[08:50] <soulrider_> no
[08:50] <soulrider_> sudo killall adept_manager
[08:50] <Beo> Thanx Soulrider
[08:50] <soulrider_> but the database will be locked
[08:51] <soulrider_> so youll have to do.....
[08:51] <N6REJ> soulrider_: you forgot sudo :P
[08:51] <soulrider_> !adeptfix | Beo
[08:51] <ubotu> Beo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:51] <Beo> ok
[08:51] <soulrider_> N6REJ: i didnt :/
[08:51] <N6REJ> nm... I need glasses
[08:51] <N6REJ> lol
[08:51] <soulrider_> yeah, big time :P
[08:52] <Slynderdale> Hmm, interesting article, seems like HP (Hewlett Packard) will "revoke" your warranty if you install linux on any of their machines. "An HP support rep told her, "Sorry, we do not honor our hardware warranty when you run Linux."" http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/03/23/1430204
[08:52] <soulrider_> N6REJ: i need to clean mine, they got a layer of grease on top :P
[08:52] <Slynderdale> This was after she installed ubuntu/kubuntu
[08:52] <soulrider_> its like i see clouds everywhere i turn :P
[08:52] <N6REJ> Slynderdale: somebody is full of hooky because you can buy hp's with *nix preinstalled
[08:52] <N6REJ> from HP!
[08:53] <AbortD> soulrider_:  do you know how to make wlassistant connect me at startup?
[08:53] <soulrider_> no AbortD, no idea, i dont ahve a wireless card
[08:53] <AbortD> argh
[08:53] <soulrider_> but if you need to open the program on startup you can add it in kdeautostart
[08:53] <soulrider_> how do you connect? using a command ?
[08:54] <AbortD> nah i connect through gui
[08:54] <Slynderdale> N6REJ: I mean if you buy a windows machine and later either dual boot Linux on it or replace windows with Linux, they will revoke your hardwaee warranty, that also includes the keyboard, mouse, ect
[08:55] <AbortD> where is kdeautostart at?
[08:55] <N6REJ> Slynderdale: I'd like to see them try!  That would be a violation of the law.  Thats an anti-trust suit just waiting to happen.
[08:56] <Slynderdale> N6REJ: Check the link I posted, they already did.
[08:56] <AbortD> i anti trust u
[08:56] <N6REJ> looking
[08:56] <soulrider_> how can they know if i formatted, installed linux and then reinstalled windows ?
[08:57] <AbortD> nah i see why they wouldnt support it
[08:57] <inject> help me to wiev ntfs partitions
[08:57] <Camaxtli> inject: That should be done automatically
[08:57] <inject> help me to wiev ntfs partitions
[08:57] <chode> AbortD, probably ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:57] <walla> is there a way that the command will compare two folders contents side by side?
[08:57] <Camaxtli> inject: if you added them to during the install
[08:58] <Camaxtli> inject: Check /media
[08:58] <inject> and?
[08:58] <inject> i dont see it here
[08:58] <BluesKaj> N6REJ, HP was exploring the possibily of provding linux as an OS but are thyavailable or is mere hype ?
[08:58] <AbortD> ok im in this autstart folder and i see nothing
[08:58] <Camaxtli> inject: Open konqueror and type: /media
[08:59] <inject> yes but i dont see
[08:59] <Camaxtli> inject: If you added the ntfs drives to mount points during the install they should be there
[08:59] <inject> i have 2 hdd
[08:59] <inject> no i dont add
[08:59] <Camaxtli> okay
[08:59] <inject> during install
[08:59] <inject> is another way
[08:59] <inject> ?
[08:59] <Camaxtli> inject: What is their name? (/dev/hd<letter><number>)
[09:00] <Camaxtli> inject: Yes there is, play with the fstab
[09:00] <inject> wait
[09:00] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: let me look, I'm almost positive linspire is provided
[09:00] <inject> dev/hdb1
[09:00] <BluesKaj> oh gawd . linspire...that's walmaer OS
[09:00] <N6REJ> There has been some discussion of swapping her unit with an HP notebook which is available with Linux preinstalled, but after a couple of weeks of back and forth, nothing has changed.
[09:01] <BluesKaj> walmart
[09:01] <inject> dev/hdb1
[09:01] <AbortD> hsystem-x u know anything about getting wlassistant to connect u to the net when u startup
[09:01] <hsystem-x> freespire XD (Y).
[09:01] <inject> camaxtil:
[09:01] <AbortD> ?
[09:02] <inject> hmmm :((
[09:02] <hsystem-x> wel i AbortD you mean a wireless manager
[09:02] <hsystem-x> right?
[09:02] <hsystem-x> well*
[09:02] <LeKloyd> **
[09:02] <BluesKaj> N6REJ , yer right ! : http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/cache/286526-0-0-225-121.html
[09:02] <N6REJ> I'm almost positive I've seen hp's with *nix on it.
[09:02] <inject> how i can see ntfs partitions
[09:02] <Camaxtli> inject: Open /etc/fstab and check if they're mentioned in there
[09:02] <Comadore> who know any POLISH KUBUNTU channel ?
[09:02] <hsystem-x> i use i use knetwork manager, you can install it from synaptic.
[09:02] <Camaxtli> inject: Otherwise add them to the fstab
[09:02] <BluesKaj> !pl
[09:02] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:03] <Comadore> thanx
[09:03] <N6REJ> I knew it!
[09:03] <N6REJ> lol
[09:03] <peaker> why isn't knetworkmanager installed by default?
[09:03] <N6REJ> they're talking out of both side!
[09:03] <Camaxtli> peaker: It is installed by deafault
[09:03] <inject> i am in filesistem & disk and how i can enable other partitions?
[09:04] <hsystem-x> don't know XD. Kubunt already ship with another manager. "Wireless Assistant"
[09:04] <hsystem-x> but knetworkmanager is pretty good.
[09:04] <peaker> Camaxtli: oh so it got uninstalled here when I upgraded to edgy or something
[09:04] <peaker> hsystem-x: but wireless assistant doesnt store its configuration in a way that auto-loads at boot time
[09:04] <peaker> or at least it doesnt work
[09:05] <peaker> I am still trying to figure out how the hell the essid/key/etc are supposed to be stored and set into my wireless interface in boot time by ubuntu
[09:05] <hsystem-x> well but it does connect to the network with more strength automatically.
[09:05] <hsystem-x> when the computer startup.
[09:05] <peaker> hsystem-x: that's not what I want - it tries my neighbours' connection
[09:05] <peaker> when it tries strongest
[09:05] <BluesKaj> HP Driver CD for Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS 3 and WS 4
[09:05] <N6REJ> http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/cache/309906-0-0-0-121.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
[09:06] <peaker> I need it to connect to a specific essid with a specific enc/key setting
[09:06] <N6REJ> yep
[09:06] <N6REJ> I was just there
[09:06] <Camaxtli> inject: try to add this to your /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb1 /the/folder/you/want/it/to/be/mounted ntfs defaults,umask=007 0 1
[09:07] <Beo> Thanx Ubuntu...  That did the trick!
[09:07] <hsystem-x> well i personally use knetwork manager, and you can set what connection you want him to connect automatically.
[09:07] <Camaxtli> peaker: KNetworkManager is installed per default in Feisty, although you'll need the Gnome Frontend atm to run the VPN plugins
[09:07] <peaker> knetworkmanager also doesnt configure and set it up for boot up
[09:07] <peaker> Camaxtli: all I am trying to understand and get to work - is a gui configurator for my essid/key that persists those settings to the next boot
[09:08] <peaker> Camaxtli: currently I am manually setting essid/enc/key via iwconfig/wlassistant every time I boot
[09:08] <Camaxtli> peaker: I recommend KNetworkManager for that, it's what I used.
[09:08] <Camaxtli> *use
[09:08] <peaker> Camaxtli: but it doesnt remember after boot
[09:08] <BluesKaj> enterprise linux ..bah humbug !
[09:09] <Camaxtli> peaker: That's a known bug, you'll have to use set those things every boot.
[09:09] <peaker> Camaxtli: also, I don't see in knetworkmanager how to choose an essid/key/etc. wlassistant has all that but it only works for now, not later
[09:09] <surgy> can you guys help me talk kde into using less ram?
[09:09] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: they are going to try to sell me a laptop straight from hp with linux preinstalled, hang on this should be good.
[09:09] <peaker> Camaxtli: ah. is there a plan to fix this bug? I remember hitting it almost a year ago
[09:09] <BluesKaj> ok N6REJ , cool :)
[09:10] <peaker> Camaxtli: Cause kde already has a gui editor for these options that persists them in /etc/network/interfaces, its just that ifup doesn't read those options into env vars properly. I think that would fix it
[09:10] <hsystem-x> Xubuntu is better for computers with low memory ^^.
[09:10] <hsystem-x> surgy*
[09:11] <peaker> Camaxtli: Do you know the bug numer?
[09:11] <peaker> I want to try to contribute a solution
[09:11] <surgy> ksystem-x:i have plenty of memory, i whould just have more if kde wasnt a hog
[09:11] <Camaxtli> peaker: Not from memory, no. Sorry
[09:12] <chidecois> hi, i'm loocking for some information about 3d desktop about beryl?
[09:12] <hsystem-x> maybe you are running too much add-ons or graphics, things like beryl and etc. that consume more resources.
[09:12] <SSJ_GZ> surgy: How much do you have, and how much is it using?
[09:12] <AbortD> is there a way i can uninstall kde and install gnome without losing documents?
[09:12] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: they just offered me "FREED OS" laptop!
[09:13] <chidecois> i have 2 GB ram it5200 and geforce 7300
[09:13] <surgy> ssj_gz: i have 512mb its using 400
[09:13] <hsystem-x> www.beryl-project.com : chidecois.
[09:13] <BluesKaj> N6REJ,  freed os ?
[09:13] <surgy> ssj_gz: well mid 400s
[09:13] <SSJ_GZ> surgy: How are you measuring the usage? What apps do you have open?
[09:13] <hsystem-x> www.beryl-project.org *****
[09:14] <N6REJ> means no os, you can install linux without voiding warranty!
[09:14] <surgy> ssj_gz i let it idle for 30 seconds with nothing running and then run ksysguard to tell me the usage
[09:14] <chidecois> i had use beryl with 6.10 and the system was goog but i dont know with 7.04
[09:15] <chidecois> sorry for my enclgis
[09:15] <chidecois> english
[09:15] <BluesKaj> N6REJ, that's preferable to redhat
[09:15] <SSJ_GZ> surgy:  It's probably just file cache, then.  An empty KDE session doesn't use anywhere near that much.
[09:15] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: yep!
[09:16] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: this is getting good!
[09:16] <BluesKaj> is it cheaper ?
[09:16] <hsystem-x> chidecois - > http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[09:16] <hsystem-x> Scroll down the page until you see (k)Ubuntu feisty
[09:17] <surgy> ssj_gz: it says    physicle memory
[09:17] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: dunno.
[09:17] <AbortD> what does beryl
[09:17] <N6REJ> he's looking it up
[09:17] <SSJ_GZ> surgy: Physical Memory includes file cache :)
[09:18] <AbortD> what is beryl i meant
[09:18] <chidecois> thanks
[09:18] <chidecois> is it better berly or compiz
[09:19] <hsystem-x> i have only tried beryl, and is pretty good. specially with aiglx.
[09:19] <chidecois> ok
[09:20] <AbortD> can u use it in gnome?
[09:20] <hsystem-x> on gnome and kde.
[09:20] <chidecois> i use kde
[09:20] <hsystem-x> AbortD click here: http://www.foromsn.com/index.php?Ver=Mensaje&Id=251874&WebOrigen=1 and play the video XD. That's beryl.
[09:21] <chidecois> compliments hsystem
[09:21] <AbortD> that is sexy....
[09:21] <AbortD> omg
[09:21] <chidecois> it is your sistem in video?
[09:22] <hsystem-x> no jje.
[09:22] <AbortD> there is no way my graphics card will support that i bet
[09:22] <AbortD> hsystem-x:  u think nvidia 5500 fx 256mb ram would work?
[09:22] <ubuntu> hello, i'm having a little problem with grub here
[09:22] <ubuntu> today, i bought myself an additional VGA card
[09:22] <hsystem-x> sure... i can do that with 64 mb lol...
[09:22] <LeeJunFan> hsystem-x: well that does it- I'm editing my fire colors :) That's sweet.
[09:22] <AbortD> really?
[09:22] <lmergen> anyway
[09:22] <hsystem-x> yeah...
[09:23] <AbortD> i have to get beryl...
[09:23] <AbortD> im in love
[09:23] <lmergen> when booting, grub now says 'Error 18' or 'Error 16', it varies
[09:23] <AbortD> and its your fault hsystem-x why would u show me something like that?
[09:23] <lmergen> when removing the PCI card, grub loads fine
[09:23] <lmergen> and
[09:23] <hsystem-x> jaja lol.
[09:23] <lmergen> when I put the additional PCI VGA card back in, and use the livecd, everything goes fine
[09:24] <AbortD> i love the magic windows...
[09:24] <lmergen> now, the grub documentation says that error 16 or error 18 are issues with the filesystem
[09:24] <lmergen> but i fail to understand how adding or removing a PCI VGA card has any influence on how GRUB sees the filesystem
[09:24] <lmergen> anyone can help me with this ?
[09:24] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-321838-3329741-1839153.html
[09:25] <AaronCampbell_> I can't seem to get my network working on my new Kubuntu system.  I have a linksys router(192.168.2.98) with DHCP service enabled (serving 50 addresses from 192.168.2.100, and working fine for other machines).  However, when I connect a network cale to it, it gets to like 57% connecting (trying to get IP), and it can't
[09:26] <AaronCampbell_> Will anything change once install is complete?
[09:26] <hsystem-x> just to mentione, if anyone is going to install beryl... be sure to have the 3d original nvidia drivers, can be found on automatix sources...
[09:26] <hsystem-x> if it is an nvidia card.
[09:26] <AbortD> i need a browser that has no graphical user interface hsystem-x can i use konq?
[09:27] <hsystem-x> konq or do you mean konqueror?
[09:27] <AbortD> ueror
[09:27] <soulrider__> AbortD: try links
[09:27] <AbortD> try links?
[09:27] <soulrider__> or links2, that one can open images without even xorg running
[09:28] <soulrider__> yes, sudo aptitude install links :P
[09:28] <crdlb> !links2
[09:28] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[09:28] <crdlb> !info links2
[09:28] <ubotu> links2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre23-1 (edgy), package size 2009 kB, installed size 3224 kB
[09:28] <AbortD> ok i guess i gotta shut down konversion cya guys in a few
[09:30] <AbortD> i broke links :(
[09:36] <AbortD> there is no way i can install beryl
[09:36] <AbortD> links sucks
[09:36] <hsystem-x> why did you need links to install beryl :S.
[09:36] <AbortD> cant you just get a .deb :(
[09:36] <AbortD> i cant run konqueror
[09:36] <AbortD> and im following this guide
[09:36] <hsystem-x> lol but, use the console...
[09:36] <crdlb> AbortD, you can't install beryl if you don't have X
[09:37] <AbortD> use console for what?
[09:37] <hsystem-x> to add the beryl source to your apt sources.
[09:37] <hsystem-x> then do apt-update, and continue with the instructions...
[09:37] <AbortD> i have no idea what you are saying with this apt sources
[09:38] <qsu> anybody using katapult
[09:39] <crdlb> AbortD, what do you need links for?
[09:39] <hsystem-x> what distro you are using AbortD
[09:40] <AbortD> to view this webpage
[09:40] <hsystem-x> dapper...
[09:40] <hsystem-x> edgy
[09:40] <hsystem-x> feisty
[09:40] <AbortD> edgy
[09:40] <crdlb> AbortD, are you video drivers broken?
[09:40] <crdlb> your*
[09:41] <AaronCampbell_> I'm trying to install 6.10 from DVD.  However, I choose "Install..." from the startup menu, I get a kubuntu loading screen, and then I get dumped to a command prompt: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[09:41] <AbortD> no
[09:41] <AbortD> i dont think so
[09:41] <crdlb> AbortD, then why do you need to use links?
[09:41] <AaronCampbell_> Any idea why?
[09:41] <AbortD> because doesnt byrl shut xorg down thus shutting down my browser?
[09:41] <AbortD> when i am reading this how to
[09:42] <hsystem-x> lol no.
[09:42] <AbortD> sudo echo -e "\n## Beryl repository\ndeb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:42] <hsystem-x> Use beryl with aiglx.
[09:42] <selfish_> pppoeconf
[09:42] <AbortD> that should add it to my repos right?
[09:42] <philfo> ok, what's the command line to mount a floppy disk?
[09:42] <crdlb> AbortD, nope
[09:42] <crdlb> AbortD, come to #ubuntu-effects
[09:42] <AbortD> whats that do?
[09:42] <jack__> hi, when i am idle and the screensaver starts( any, matrix, fractals) the cpu load with about 60% is much higher than when i am actively working, this is annoying cos of the noise, any help??
[09:42] <N6REJ> philfo: sudo mount /dev/fd0
[09:42] <philfo> one of these days I'm going to get all that
[09:43] <N6REJ> philfo: give me that uri for gimpshop again please
[09:43] <philfo> wait one
[09:43] <N6REJ> k
[09:43] <hsystem-x> and if you are using an nvidia card, i recommend you to install automatix2 (www.getautomatix.com), and download the nvidia drivers. It will do all the instalation for you. Then go here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX and follow the instructions...
[09:43] <chaka> Hi all, could some please help to get my Prisem2 WLan card to run with WPA
[09:44] <inanimate> Does anybody know how to install all the missing xscreensavers for KDE (without using the xscreensaver-demo workaround)?
[09:45] <philfo> ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239277
[09:45] <N6REJ> tyvm
[09:46] <philfo> nnp
[09:46] <philfo> that's the easy install page
[09:46] <AaronCampbell_> I'm trying to install 6.10 from DVD.  However, I choose "Install..." from the startup menu, I get a kubuntu loading screen, and then I get dumped to a command prompt: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[09:46] <AaronCampbell_> Any idea why?
[09:47] <philfo> ok, it can't find the floppy drive.
[09:47] <uciu> !help
[09:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:48] <jim88> hello all once again ... please can someone help me with a "wide screen" issue ... my screen somehow is spread eagle and none of the setting changes so far have help ... it appears to be stretched somehow and I cannot get it back to normal
[09:53] <cotyrothery> Has anyone here had the problem that when you installed kubuntu then restarted you go a error saying found no operating system
[09:54] <ToolBust> I can't find de right driver for my grafic card... can any one help me?
[09:55] <ToolBust> I can't find de right driver for my grafic card... can any one help me?
[09:56] <jim88> hello all once again ... please can someone help me with a "wide screen" issue ... my screen somehow is spread eagle and none of the setting changes so far have help ... it appears to be stretched somehow and I cannot get it back to normal
[09:56] <mknights> has anyone here ever installed virtualbox?
[09:56] <crafty_> where can i go to find open ports 4 filesharing on the web?  do a file port scan.  my apollon isn't working
[09:56] <ToolBust> I did not, but virtualbox comes with big linux
[09:57] <ToolBust> and also comes with a lot better efects than vista and it's not heavy
[09:57] <mknights> any ideas on how to install it?
[09:57] <ToolBust> I advise you to try big linux, it has debian, grub, and rpm
[09:58] <ToolBust> it as every thing
[09:58] <crafty_> how big is big linux?
[09:58] <jeffmetal1> is it possible to resize an ext2 partition to include unused space on a drive.
[09:59] <cotyrothery> Is there anyone here that can help me with getting kubuntu to work. Because no matter what i have done every time i restart my computer once done installing i get a message that says that there is no operating system
[09:59] <sparrw> what is a good LDAP client to perform bulk/batch changes to account information?
[10:00] <Bluedog> hey guys
[10:00] <Bluedog> any reason why script.py runs fine, but typing ./script.py gives permission denied?
[10:00] <peaker> Bluedog: what's the output of 'type script.py' ?
[10:01] <Bluedog> its sabnzbd
[10:01] <peaker> Bluedog: you're probably running script.py from $PATH somewhere, and not ./script.py
[10:01] <Bluedog> so just gives constant server logs, which I wont want in my terminal
[10:01] <Bluedog> its definitely the same script, only one SABnzb.py on the system
[10:01] <jack__> hi, when i am idle and the screensaver starts( any, matrix, fractals) the cpu load with about 60% is much higher than when i am actively working, this is annoying cos of thhe noise, any help??top gives me bug
[10:01] <peaker> Bluedog: 'which script.py' or 'type script.py' tell you what script.py actually runs
[10:01] <jack__> top gives me 60 percent or more xorg
[10:02] <peaker> Bluedog: run which on it anyhow?
[10:02] <surgy> when i run the command  "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" i get the following error: http://pastebin.ca/412589 can someone help me please?
[10:02] <Bluedog> which returns nothing peaker
[10:02] <peaker> Bluedog: which and type both say nothing?
[10:03] <Bluedog> hang on
[10:03] <Bluedog> you are right :)
[10:03] <Bluedog> the installer for SABnzbd.py i installed made it system wide
[10:03] <Bluedog> so it runs from /usr/bin
[10:03] <peaker> heh
[10:04] <Bluedog> hence why its failing i guess!
[10:04] <cotyrothery> Can anyone here help with what i just said
[10:04] <peaker> cotyrothery: did you install windows recently?
[10:04] <cotyrothery> Many people have tried helping but i still have not got it to work
[10:04] <cotyrothery> no
[10:04] <peaker> cotyrothery: did you just install ubuntu and then you get no os at boot?
[10:05] <cotyrothery> yes
[10:05] <peaker> cotyrothery: I am not sure how to reinstall grub, but you should try that
[10:05] <cotyrothery> i  have
[10:05] <peaker> does grub say it succeeded?
[10:05] <cotyrothery> yes
[10:05] <peaker> hmm
[10:05] <cotyrothery> but nothing happens at boot
[10:05] <peaker> and then your BIOS says that no OS exists, or grub says so?
[10:05] <cotyrothery> yes
[10:06] <cotyrothery> bios says so
[10:06] <peaker> cotyrothery: maybe you're installing grub on the wrong disk?
[10:06] <peaker> cotyrothery: or your BIOS is not configured to load an OS from the right disks?
[10:06] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:07] <peaker> cotyrothery: most (all?) BIOS setups have a list of disks that you configure that tell them where to try to boot from
[10:07] <cotyrothery> could you give me instructions no how to set it up
[10:07] <runtime> Hey, I'm wondering why KDevelop isn't in add/remove?
[10:07] <peaker> cotyrothery: you know how to enter your bios setup?
[10:07] <cotyrothery> yes
[10:07] <peaker> runtime: I have it here. Maybe its in universe or something
[10:07] <peaker> runtime: I didn't have some packages when I used an incomplete ubuntu mirror
[10:07] <peaker> runtime: then I switched to an official mirror and its fixed
[10:07] <runtime> I'm using a qemu image, 6.16
[10:08] <peaker> runtime: try to uncomment universe in your sources.list, update and see if kdevelop is there?
[10:08] <peaker> ya its in universe
[10:08] <peaker> runtime: do you use adept?
[10:09] <peaker> cotyrothery: in the BIOS setup
[10:09] <peaker> cotyrothery: look at the bootup sequence
[10:09] <runtime> yeah
[10:09] <peaker> cotyrothery: it has stuff like a list containing the floppy disk, cdrom, hard disks, etc
[10:09] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:09] <cotyrothery> yep
[10:09] <peaker> cotyrothery: see that you have your hard disks in there
[10:09] <peaker> cotyrothery: and in any case tell people here what you have there
[10:09] <cotyrothery> i have tried every order possible
[10:09] <peaker> cotyrothery: I'm gonna have to reboot in a sec
[10:09] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:09] <cotyrothery> i have
[10:09] <peaker> cotyrothery: are you sure your hard disks appear in there? specifically the hard disk that you grub'd into?
[10:10] <cotyrothery> i only see one
[10:10] <cotyrothery> but i have two
[10:10] <cotyrothery> I installed it on my slave
[10:10] <peaker> cotyrothery: what's the exact wording your BIOS uses for the disk?
[10:10] <peaker> cotyrothery: maybe your BIOS is only trying to boot from the Master drive
[10:10] <cotyrothery> well there is the CD-ROM Drive for the first
[10:11] <cotyrothery> then there is Hard Drive
[10:11] <cotyrothery> then Network somthing
[10:11] <cotyrothery> then Removable devices
[10:11] <peaker> cotyrothery: "Hard Drive" is written just like that?
[10:11] <Arwen> * Topic for #kubuntu set by Arwen at Sun Mar 25 18:45:37 2007 - w00t, I'm king
[10:11] <peaker> cotyrothery: how many physical hard disks do you have?
[10:11] <cotyrothery> Two
[10:11] <cotyrothery> there all internal
[10:11] <peaker> cotyrothery: IDE/SATA/SCSI?
[10:12] <cotyrothery> I have no ida
[10:12] <cotyrothery> idea
[10:12] <Arwen> cotyrothery, ......
[10:12] <cotyrothery> yea
[10:12] <Arwen> cotyrothery, did they have a long ribbon cable?
[10:12] <peaker> cotyrothery: where do you grub into? which /dev?
[10:12] <cotyrothery> hold on
[10:12] <cotyrothery> what do you mean arwen
[10:12] <cotyrothery> and
[10:13] <Arwen> cotyrothery, you didn't install them? *sigh*.....
[10:13] <cotyrothery> I tried grub on both drives
[10:13] <peaker> cotyrothery: which /dev's?
[10:13] <cotyrothery> both
[10:13] <cotyrothery> neither one of them worked
[10:13] <peaker> cotyrothery: /dev/hda and /dev/hdb or /dev/sda and /dev/sdb? which exactly?
[10:13] <cotyrothery> plus windows no longer works
[10:13] <cotyrothery> hd1
[10:13] <cotyrothery> it said
[10:13] <cotyrothery> (hd1,0)
[10:13] <peaker> cotyrothery: /dev/hd1? no such thing
[10:13] <cotyrothery> and
[10:13] <peaker> oh
[10:14] <cotyrothery> (hd1,2)
[10:14] <Arwen> peaker, grub devices, pata/sata/scsi/fc, all the same to grub
[10:14] <Arwen> cotyrothery, so that's secondary hdd, partitions 1 and 3
[10:14] <Arwen> that sound right?
[10:14] <cotyrothery> I tried all sorts
[10:14] <peaker> cotyrothery: ouch, you're trying to install into patritions
[10:15] <peaker> I hope you didn't install grub onto the windows partition directly
[10:15] <cotyrothery> no
[10:15] <cotyrothery> hold on
[10:15] <cotyrothery> let me type what i have tried
[10:15] <cotyrothery> yes i did
[10:15] <cotyrothery> that is why windows does not work
[10:15] <cotyrothery> i think i ruined my bootloader for windows
[10:15] <Arwen> um, stupid - you should have installed to linux partition
[10:15] <peaker> cotyrothery: well, if no OS is found by BIOS, obviously windows doesnt work too
[10:15] <Arwen> cotyrothery, boot your Windows CD, go to recovery mode, and do "fixboot"
[10:16] <cotyrothery> i have no windows cd
[10:16] <peaker> grub should be installed to MBR - not linux partition
[10:16] <peaker> from MBR it can load linux partition
[10:16] <Arwen> cotyrothery, ow, you fail :-\
[10:16] <cotyrothery> thanks
[10:16] <peaker> cotyrothery: I am not sure installing grub into windows partition overwrites anything that cannot be restored
[10:16] <Arwen> peaker, incorrect, only the first stage grub loader will be put on mbr, the rest is in the boot sector
[10:16] <Arwen> and installing grub on windows breaks ntldr for obvious reasons
[10:16] <peaker> Arwen: grub loads itself from the linux partition? its surely larger than the mbr+1sector
[10:17] <cotyrothery> is there a way to have remote connection
[10:17] <cotyrothery> or something
[10:17] <cotyrothery> were you can do it
[10:17] <peaker> Arwen: where is the bulk of grub stored and loaded from at boot time?
[10:17] <cotyrothery> because i have been at this for weeks
[10:17] <Arwen> peaker, yes, the mbr contains a listing of partitions and a mapping of the active one - the bios starts executing code from the active partition sector 1
[10:17] <peaker> cotyrothery: you can probably re-install the windows boot loader via a windows rescue disk
[10:17] <Arwen> which is where ALL of grub is
[10:17] <Arwen> though, maybe some is in /boot/grub, and is loaded after grub starts fs drivers
[10:18] <peaker> Arwen: no no, the BIOS does not know the partition table at all.. the mbr typically contains code to find the active partition and run that
[10:18] <peaker> Arwen: a sector is 512 bytes. You can't store an ext2 fs driver in 512 bytes of code :)
[10:18] <frojnd> hello guys: I was wondering if there is any application to crate rotating image. For example I wanna to have sculpture to be rotated automatically.... what program can do scuh thing??
[10:19] <Arwen> peaker, ah wait, sorry yeah, the BIOS executes at bit 1 of mbr, where the code finds the active partition
[10:19] <cotyrothery> To bad i dont have a windows disk
[10:19] <peaker> Arwen: so perhaps the mbr is a standard active partition seeker and the active partition contains grub, tho I remember you can place lilo/grub directly on the mbr, without the active partition stuff at all
[10:19] <Arwen> peaker, I'm pretty sure the bulk of grub is in the first chunk of the partition
[10:19] <peaker> frojnd: you mean a rotating 3d model?
[10:19] <cotyrothery> so what am i going to do
[10:19] <cotyrothery> I would like to get kubuntu working more than windows
[10:20] <frojnd> peaker: something like that yes
[10:20] <c1|freaky> for me it does
[10:20] <peaker> cotyrothery: you should reinstall grub to the correct device
[10:20] <c1|freaky> i love kubuntu :D
[10:20] <cotyrothery> i have tried
[10:20] <peaker> frojnd: I am sure there are. look for a package involving 3d models?
[10:20] <cotyrothery> but what is the correct device
[10:20] <cotyrothery> because i have tried everything
[10:20] <Search4Lancer> how do I crank down the processor performance? I'm fairly sure I have it cranked up for full performance, but because of that, the system has been running terribly hot
[10:20] <Arwen> peaker, from wp - GRUB Stage 1.5 is located in the first 30 kilobytes of hard disk immediately following the MBR. Stage 1.5 loads Stage 2.
[10:20] <peaker> cotyrothery: try using (hd0) no comma
[10:20] <fr0nk> hi
[10:21] <Arwen> peaker, apparently stage 1 either runs stage 1.5 or stage 2
[10:21] <inanimate> How do you find the actual version of Kubuntu you're running? I didn't see anything in uname...
[10:21] <cotyrothery> i have done that also
[10:21] <KiPSeRoN> SOMONE CAN HELP
[10:21] <KiPSeRoN> ME
[10:21] <fr0nk> what is the "oem install mode" doing when selected from the alternate boot cd?
[10:21] <peaker> Arwen: ah. so your partition table is supposed to provide some space there - because partition tables typically align up to cylinder boundaries (so after the first sector, everything up to the next cyilnder is free)
[10:21] <runtime> stop w/ the caps
[10:21] <peaker> Arwen: so grub can use the entire first cylinder rather than the first sector
[10:22] <fr0nk> does OEM mode mean "install without user interruption"?
[10:22] <peaker> Arwen: whether its the mbr or a partition
[10:22] <Arwen> peaker, yes, apparently, although it says that grub can also load stage 2 directly
[10:22] <c1|freaky> inanimate: press CTRL + ALT + F1 - to switch back: ALT+F7 <-- at the login there the current version should be displayed - theres another way with a cmd but i can't remember atm
[10:22] <kasper> Is there some way to get flash plugin to work in Opera 9.1? Im running dapper drake 6.06.
[10:22] <peaker> Arwen: where is stage 2?
[10:22] <peaker> cotyrothery: what happens when grub installs to (hd0)
[10:22] <Arwen> peaker, active partition, fixed location at the beginning
[10:22] <cotyrothery> nothing happens
[10:22] <cotyrothery> it just installs
[10:22] <c1|freaky> inanimate: dont forget ALT+F7 !
[10:22] <cotyrothery> then i go to restart
[10:22] <c1|freaky> to switch back
[10:22] <cotyrothery> and i get the same message
[10:23] <peaker> Arwen: weird, how does it fit in with the ext2 stuff in there?
[10:23] <peaker> cotyrothery: try installing to (hd1) as well?
[10:23] <cotyrothery> I am completely screwed
[10:23] <Arwen> peaker, dunno, my guess is that it's actually a very limited ext2 driver (after all, you just need basic ro access)
[10:23] <cotyrothery> i have done that
[10:23] <inanimate> c1|freaky: OK, I"ll give it a shot.
[10:23] <Arwen> it then loads vmlinux and initrd, which have the actual functionality
[10:24] <cotyrothery> I'm stuck with no operating system
[10:24] <cotyrothery> this really sucks at the moment
[10:24] <Arwen> cotyrothery, reinstall :-)
[10:24] <cotyrothery> I have also done tht
[10:24] <cotyrothery> that
[10:24] <cotyrothery> many times
[10:25] <peaker> cotyrothery: if you reinstall kubuntu, it still doesn't work?
[10:25] <cotyrothery> correct
[10:25] <peaker> what are the *exact* commands you use within grub?
[10:25] <cotyrothery> i am never in gryb
[10:25] <cotyrothery> grub
[10:25] <Arwen> peaker, oh yeah, grub can fit because it's written in assembly code :-)
[10:25] <cotyrothery> it does not come up at start up
[10:26] <peaker> Arwen: hehe you could probably write something that reads an ext2 file in a few sectors in asm, that's true
[10:26] <peaker> Arwen: but not in 512 bytes, not easily
[10:26] <Arwen> no, because the actual bunk of grub is not in 1 sector
[10:26] <peaker> Arwen: cause that same boot sector has to do other various stuff too, like initialize protected mode, and various Intel/i386 horrible stuff
[10:27] <peaker> Arwen: ya it has a whole cylinder and then its not a big problem
[10:27] <Arwen> it appears as a file in /boot/grub I think actually - it's actually just a large chunk of pre-allocated space
[10:27] <inanimate> c1|freaky: Awesome, it worked. Now I just have to see if upgrading my packages got me to the beta version of Fesity...
[10:27] <cotyrothery> Is there a app for remote connection?
[10:28] <cotyrothery> maybe some one could guide me with remote connection
[10:28] <peaker> cotyrothery: how did you try to reinstall grub with the drives?
[10:28] <Arwen> peaker, take a look in /boot/grub, it has stage1, stage2, and various stage1.5 loaders for comparison
[10:28] <cotyrothery> i just told it to wipe everything off of the slave
[10:29] <Search4Lancer> how do I crank down the processor performance? I'm fairly sure I have it cranked up for full performance, but because of that, the system has been running terribly hot
[10:29] <Arwen> stage 1 is 512B (duh), stage 1.5 is 7.5K (for e2fs), stage 2 is 10.5K
[10:29] <peaker> no time, gotta reboot
[10:29] <life> hello, I just installed kubuntu, but it is breezy badger. I'd like to know how to upgrade it to the newest version
[10:29] <peaker> !upgrade
[10:29] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:29] <Arwen> life, you can't you'd have to upgrade to dapper then edgy
[10:30] <Arwen> better to install edgy directly
[10:30] <cotyrothery> is there a way to get some one to do this through remote connection
[10:30] <cotyrothery> it would be nice
[10:30] <peaker> cotyrothery: maybe I could help later. I need to reboot and hook up some hardware
[10:30] <peaker> cotyrothery: I'll be back in a couple of hours or so
[10:30] <peaker> maybe sooner
[10:30] <peaker> if everything goes quick
[10:30] <peaker> bbl
[10:30] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:30] <cotyrothery> thanks
[10:30] <life> Arwen, it is not recommendable to upgrade to dapper and afterwards to edgy?
[10:31] <Arwen> life, no, because it's long, tedious, and has complications
[10:31] <cotyrothery> im going to try once again to reinstall
[10:31] <Arwen> and because in about a month, you'll have to tack on another feisty upgrade
[10:31] <life> ok, so I just will download edgy and reinstall it
[10:32] <cotyrothery> Maybe someone could guide me throught the portions part
[10:34] <cotyrothery> I have also tried installing ubuntu and edubuntu in the desperate attempt to get my computer working
[10:35] <ScarFreewill> any1 know a app that i can run to cut a piece of a avi?
[10:36] <Arwen> ScarFreewill, dunno, vlc can do it via "partial extract", but that's not a pretty solution
[10:36] <kasper> Isn't it possible to find a guide about howto get flash plugin to work in opera?
[10:36] <LjL> !avifile-utils | ScarFreewill
[10:36] <ubotu> scarfreewill: avifile-utils: utility programs using the avifile library. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.7.44.20051021-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 280 kB, installed size 852 kB
[10:36] <ScarFreewill> Arwen: vlc thats a player right?
[10:36] <cotyrothery> i have tried all ubuntu os's
[10:36] <cotyrothery> none of them work
[10:37] <Arwen> ScarFreewill, yes, but it has transcoding tools built in
[10:37] <ScarFreewill> Arwen: cool
[10:37] <Arwen> see !avifiles-utils as LjL said
[10:37] <luke__> ih? you're crazy coty
[10:37] <ScarFreewill> yeah..
[10:37] <mrand> What group do my users need to be in to be able to print via CUPS?
[10:37] <cotyrothery> how am i crazy?
[10:37] <luke__> i've tried edgy and feisty,all work for me
[10:37] <luke__> i'ts your problem
[10:37] <cotyrothery> I install but nothing happens at boot
[10:37] <ScarFreewill> luke__: have you tried dapper??
[10:38] <cotyrothery> no
[10:38] <luke__> no
[10:38] <ScarFreewill> dapper is the lts version
[10:38] <cotyrothery> i dont have a burnrer
[10:38] <ScarFreewill> its suppost to work on most pcs
[10:38] <cotyrothery> burner
[10:38] <luke__> understood ,i know it
[10:38] <ScarFreewill> edgy is like just after a beta feisty just reached beta
[10:38] <luke__> but ,by now i've feisty beta 1
[10:39] <ScarFreewill> edgy does not work on verios pcs
[10:39] <cotyrothery> i dont care at this point what i have
[10:39] <cotyrothery> i just want my computer to work
[10:39] <luke__> and it's work with any problem,but enough work
[10:39] <cotyrothery> becuase i have a site to take care of
[10:40] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:40] <cotyrothery> im installing agian
[10:40] <cotyrothery> im at the portions
[10:40] <cotyrothery> what should i do
[10:40] <luke__> boh!
[10:41] <cotyrothery> should i wipe out my drive
[10:41] <cotyrothery> or do it manually
[10:42] <luke__> umhh you try looking bootable sequence on bios
[10:42] <cotyrothery> How should i do my portions when i install
[10:42] <luke__> and sorry for my english lol
[10:42] <cotyrothery> i have done everything
[10:42] <cotyrothery> at least i think i have
[10:42] <cotyrothery> and none of it seems to work
[10:42] <cotyrothery> so maybe it is the way im setting up the portiosn
[10:42] <cotyrothery> portions
[10:43] <luke__> you'll must put first : cd or dvd boot,second : hard disk etc...
[10:43] <cotyrothery> i did
[10:43] <luke__> then reboot you o.s.
[10:43] <luke__> ah
[10:43] <luke__> ufffff
[10:44] <cotyrothery> I have done it all
[10:44] <cotyrothery> so im just taking a guess but maybe i was not meant for kubunut
[10:44] <cotyrothery> or any of this
[10:44] <cotyrothery> considering i have been at this for weeks
[10:45] <cotyrothery> and now i have a head ache
[10:45] <rigved> cotyrothery: if u r serious about solving this prob then get in touch with a guy called Simon Felding
[10:45] <cotyrothery> who is he
[10:45] <luke__> i'm sorry,but i haven't other ideas
[10:45] <rigved> cotyrothery: his email id is assaultdk@gmail.com and his nickis Nullbyte
[10:46] <cotyrothery> is he on this irc channel
[10:46] <rigved> cotyrothery: if u stick around, he ll be around
[10:46] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:46] <cotyrothery> around what time
[10:46] <rigved> he s not online right now obviously or else he d have solved ur problem by now
[10:46] <cotyrothery> is he that good
[10:46] <rigved> can u just mail him? he might come online
[10:46] <rigved> he is very good
[10:46] <cotyrothery> sweet
[10:47] <cotyrothery> has he helped people that thought there was no hope
[10:47] <cotyrothery> like me
[10:47] <rigved> he ll help u only if u have some genuine problem which is challengeing for him
[10:47] <cotyrothery> lol
[10:47] <cotyrothery> well im sure i do
[10:47] <cotyrothery> no one else can solve it
[10:47] <rigved> he is from denmark i think
[10:48] <rigved> what is ur problem by the way
[10:48] <cotyrothery> i dont know
[10:48] <rigved> wow
[10:48] <cotyrothery> people say it is grub
[10:48] <cotyrothery> because when i start up after i install nothing happens
[10:48] <cotyrothery> i just get a no operating system found
[10:48] <rigved> have u tried formatting the whole drive and starting afresh
[10:48] <cotyrothery> yes
[10:48] <rigved> cool
[10:49] <cotyrothery> and now i hae no OS
[10:49] <cotyrothery> not even windows
[10:49] <rigved> do u have 2 hard drives by any chance
[10:49] <cotyrothery> and i have no burner
[10:49] <cotyrothery> and i have no windows cd
[10:49] <cotyrothery> yes
[10:49] <cotyrothery> i have two
[10:49] <rigved> and RAM
[10:49] <cotyrothery> of couce
[10:49] <cotyrothery> cource
[10:49] <Camaxtli> Did you install the bootloader on the primary hdd?
[10:49] <rigved> i mean 2 of em
[10:49] <Camaxtli> I take it that's the problem?
[10:50] <luke__> but work ubuntu 6.10 live?
[10:50] <cotyrothery> I have two drives
[10:50] <cotyrothery> and i beleive that the bootloader no longer works
[10:50] <Arwen> cotyrothery, which hard drive did you install grub to?
[10:50] <cotyrothery> i tried installing on the slave
[10:50] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Install it to /hda
[10:50] <Arwen> cotyrothery, that's your problem, you need to have it on your master IDE
[10:50] <cotyrothery> i do
[10:50] <Arwen> ???
[10:50] <cotyrothery> but that will get rid of windows
[10:50] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: try this: sudo grub-install /dev/hda
 i tried installing on the slave
[10:51] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Writing to the mbr doesn't kill windows.
[10:51] <cotyrothery>  so if i install on the main drive
[10:51] <cotyrothery> it should work
[10:51] <Arwen> ys
[10:51] <Arwen> yes
[10:51] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:51] <rigved> i dont think that ll get rid of windows if u allow it to take contagious space
[10:51] <cotyrothery> could you guide me
[10:51] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Just try -> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[10:51] <cotyrothery> ok one sec
[10:52] <Camaxtli> That should install your bootloader on the mbr
[10:52] <Camaxtli> And things should work again.
[10:52] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:52] <cotyrothery> it says that this could take awhile
[10:53] <Camaxtli> If that doesn't work we'll need all errors etc.. and a complete description of the problem.
[10:53] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:53] <cotyrothery> like
[10:53] <Arwen> Camaxtli, say, won't just installing to /dev/hda adjust the mbr? what about the second stage bootloader and stuff like that?
[10:53] <cotyrothery> the only message i have been getting is no operating system
[10:53] <Arwen> cotyrothery, yeah, that means your mbr was dead
[10:54] <Camaxtli> Funny, an empty mbr.
[10:54] <luke__> lol
[10:54] <cotyrothery> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[10:54] <cotyrothery> that is what i got when i ran that command
[10:54] <Camaxtli> Now that's more interesting.
[10:54] <cotyrothery> how so
[10:54] <Camaxtli> Describe the entire problem in detail and more importantly, what did you do?
[10:54] <cotyrothery> um
[10:55] <Camaxtli> Also, what's the partition table like on that computer?
[10:55] <cotyrothery> i just installed kubuntu on the slave and walked away while it did it came back and it asked to restart
[10:55] <cotyrothery> and i have no idea about the partion table
[10:55] <Camaxtli> And when you restarted it said "No OS found" ?
[10:55] <cotyrothery> correctr
[10:56] <cotyrothery> I dont know if my problem is curable
[10:56] <Camaxtli> So basically that computer is unbootable
[10:56] <cotyrothery> correct
[10:56] <luke__> ummh ,maybe you'll must writing this command : sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:56] <cotyrothery> completly now
[10:56] <cotyrothery> i had windows
[10:57] <cotyrothery> ok i typed that command
[10:57] <Camaxtli> Windows XP? If so you can get that to boot quite easily (CD in it, recovery console and FIXMBR)
[10:57] <rigved> cotyrothery did u update the mtab
[10:57] <kasper> Im new and have two major issues. Can get flash plugin to work in Opera (Googled it and found absolutly nothing regarding that). And it seems like my Kubuntu browsers is having amajor lag. It takes about 30sec to load a web page (I have a 2MB and no problems on my windows PC, tried same pages and they are about 3-4sec of loading time)
[10:57] <cotyrothery> Ok i dont have the windows xp cd
[10:57] <rigved> # cp /proc/mounts /etc/mtab
[10:57] <Arwen> Camaxtli, don't you need to do fixboot too?
[10:57] <cotyrothery> I do not have a windows xp cd
[10:57] <cotyrothery> this computer is used
[10:58] <Arwen> cotyrothery, uh, go get one, you pretty much failed it
[10:58] <cotyrothery> this computer does not have a burner
[10:58] <Arwen> and go buy a burner, you can't get anywhere in life without one
[10:58] <cotyrothery> I cant at the moment
[10:58] <cotyrothery> i have no money
[10:58] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Are you running from the liveCD?
[10:58] <cotyrothery> yes
[10:58] <Camaxtli> Oh
[10:58] <cotyrothery> its all i have
[10:59] <Camaxtli> You should've told that
[10:59] <luke__> lol
[10:59] <Camaxtli> Okay, we'll apply a bit of Gentoo logic here.
[10:59] <rigved> cotyrothery i m not sure but its got something to do with updating the mtab
[10:59] <cotyrothery> well i thougth it would have been obvious
[10:59] <Arwen> noo.... gentoo
[10:59] <Arwen> !gentoo
[10:59] <Arwen> ?
[10:59] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[10:59] <luke__> what livecd?? is it a joke???
[10:59] <Camaxtli> First off, mount the partition you installed kubuntu on
[10:59] <cotyrothery> ok
[10:59] <cotyrothery> how
[10:59] <Arwen> cotyrothery, ..................................
[11:00] <cotyrothery> Oh my head
[11:00] <luke__> ci credo che non va!
[11:00] <cotyrothery> it hurts
[11:00] <cotyrothery> .........
[11:00] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: You DO know the device you installed it on?
[11:00] <Arwen> cotyrothery, mount /dev/hdx? -t ext3 /mnt
[11:00] <Arwen> Camaxtli, I detect a failure?
[11:00] <Camaxtli> Arwen: I detect the same.
[11:01] <Camaxtli> Arwen: This is going to be a long night :p
[11:01] <kasper> eehm, regarding my problem, shoulkd i come back tomorrow? :P
[11:01] <kasper> should*
[11:01] <Camaxtli> Arwen: RTFM is the correct answer here :D
[11:01] <Arwen> kasper, what problem?
[11:01] <cotyrothery> this will be a very long night for me
[11:01] <Camaxtli> kasper: What's your problem?
[11:01] <kasper> Im new and have two major issues. Can get flash plugin to work in Opera (Googled it and found absolutly nothing regarding that). And it seems like my Kubuntu browsers is having amajor lag. It takes about 30sec to load a web page (I have a 2MB and no problems on my windows PC, tried same pages and they are about 3-4sec of loading time)
[11:01] <Arwen> cotyrothery, maybe you'd be better off with a reinstall?
[11:02] <cotyrothery> i have done that
[11:02] <Arwen> kasper, iirc, there's only a flash plugin for mozilla browsers
[11:02] <Arwen> cotyrothery, reinstall to your first hdd with a complete reformat?
[11:02] <cotyrothery> WHAT
[11:02] <cotyrothery> are you crazy
[11:02] <kasper> but, why? i liiiike Opera.
[11:02] <cotyrothery> then i have no chance at getting windows back
[11:02] <Arwen> well, seems like the only thing easy enough for you to understand :-\
[11:02] <cotyrothery> if needed
[11:02] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Are they two separate hdds?
[11:02] <Arwen> cotyrothery, besides, you don't have a Windows CD, there's already no chance of recovery
[11:02] <Arwen> Camaxtli, yeah
[11:02] <cotyrothery> ok
[11:03] <cotyrothery> so im just going to go ahead
[11:03] <cotyrothery> and do it
[11:03] <Camaxtli> Arwen: There is a chance of recovery :D
[11:03] <cotyrothery> lets hope for the best
[11:03] <luke__> i'm using epiphany,try it
[11:03] <Arwen> Camaxtli, without a Windows CD?
[11:03] <Camaxtli> Arwen: It just requires a bit of knowledge
[11:03] <cotyrothery> there is?
[11:03] <cotyrothery> i have none
[11:03] <cotyrothery> llol
[11:03] <Arwen> Camaxtli, to fix a Windows boot sector without a Windows CD?
[11:03] <cotyrothery> i have plenty about the psp thought
[11:03] <kasper> Arwen - And my other issue, nothing to do about that?
[11:03] <Arwen> Camaxtli, he tried to install grub to his windows partition at one point :-0\
[11:03] <luke__> it's a gnome's browser
[11:04] <Arwen> kasper, sorry, repeat? lol
[11:04] <Camaxtli> Arwen: Yes, get grub or lilo installed and set the chainreaction on the windows partition.
[11:04] <frojnd> wha'ts the path of java usually: I installed it with packages: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre and sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin   ??
[11:04] <frojnd> and can I use java for firefox and opera
[11:04] <Arwen> Camaxtli, he can't, he rewrote ntldr with grub.... on his windows partition, not the mbr
[11:04] <frojnd> or do I need to install 2 javas?
[11:04] <Arwen> yes, that should work - maybe
[11:04] <cotyrothery> so should i go ahead and wipe out windows
[11:04] <Arwen> cotyrothery, dunno, you think you can find a windows cd anywhere?
[11:05] <cotyrothery> no
[11:05] <Camaxtli> Arwen: He overwrote the mbr didn't he?
[11:05] <kasper> Arwen - Browsing the web takes ages for Kubuntu/Konqueor/Opera...
[11:05] <Arwen> Camaxtli, he *says* he overwrote the ntfs boot sector :-\
[11:05] <Arwen> dunno if he's telling the truth
[11:05] <cotyrothery> i dont know
[11:05] <Camaxtli> Arwen: Grub would give an error for that iirc
[11:05] <cotyrothery> what i over wrote
[11:05] <Lynoure> kasper: try disabling ipv6?
[11:05] <Arwen> Camaxtli, yeah, probably
[11:05] <cotyrothery> ok
[11:05] <kasper> Arwen - It is like im sitting with a major lag in the system. When i try the same pages on my Windows PC, it take 3-4sec
[11:05] <Lynoure> ipv6 | kasper
[11:05] <Lynoure> oops
[11:05] <cotyrothery> im going to go ahead and wipe out everything
[11:06] <Lynoure> !ipv6 | kasper
[11:06] <ubotu> kasper: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:06] <cotyrothery> if i do
[11:06] <cotyrothery> should kubuntu work
[11:06] <Arwen> kasper, yeah ipv6 maybe?
[11:06] <Arwen> cotyrothery, after a reinstall, lol
[11:06] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Try the following -> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 -t ext3 /mnt
[11:06] <Arwen> just make sure you install to device *1*
[11:06] <kasper> Lynoure - Okay, thanks, that'll just take me about 35sec to open that articel :P haha
[11:06] <Arwen> cotyrothery, listen to Camaxtli before you try my ideas though
[11:06] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Then try -< sudo ls /mnt
[11:06] <Arwen> kasper, stop using tor :-)
[11:07] <cotyrothery> wow
[11:07] <cotyrothery> i just got a lot of text
[11:07] <cotyrothery> when i put in that command
[11:07] <_Johny> Hello everybody. Has anyone of you ever used "xmame". I don't know where copy the roms to...
[11:07] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: And check if there are files inside that directory
[11:07] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Paste bin the text will you?
[11:07] <BluesKaj> kasper ,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:07] <cotyrothery> ok
[11:07] <kasper> Arwen - tor? sorry im new at all this.
[11:07] <cotyrothery> !paste
[11:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <Arwen> kasper, joke - tor is tor.eff.org
[11:07] <Camaxtli> Arwen: I'm wishing I had ssh to his box right now :p
[11:08] <Arwen> Camaxtli, lolz
[11:08] <cotyrothery> it takes for ever
[11:08] <cotyrothery> loading the web on live cd
[11:09] <kasper> Arwen - Aah so tor would slow down my internet? :P
[11:09] <Arwen> yeah, a lot :-)
[11:10] <kasper> Arwen - Haha, well i'll try to diable the IPv6 now, see if that help. Now i read the guide, is it because my hardware is old?
[11:10] <Arwen> dunno
[11:11] <cotyrothery> ok
[11:11] <cotyrothery> paste bin is almost loaded
[11:11] <magicfab> hello
[11:12] <Camaxtli> Give the url when you've pastebinned it
[11:12] <magicfab> how much memory would you say is the minumum required to run KDE , as in "comfortable, more than one applicatio" ?
[11:13] <rigved> magicfab 512 MB
[11:13] <cotyrothery> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12392/
[11:13] <Camaxtli> rigved: 256 is more than enough, even 128 is.
[11:13] <luke__> i've 256 mb...
[11:13] <luke__> with gnome...
[11:14] <rigved> i ve 512 :)
[11:14] <luke__> work beryl also...
[11:14] <magicfab> well, beryl is the video card's job ;)
[11:14] <luke__> it's enough ...
[11:14] <magicfab> mostly
[11:14] <luke__> bah
[11:15] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: My fault for, try -> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[11:15] <frojnd> can someone help me on that one. I've installed java with package sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre and it wokrs for firefox. But for opera I have to enter a path to java.so So I locate.so and got: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so    but when I click validate path button it says that this is not validated java path... any suggestions
[11:15] <cotyrothery> it worked though
[11:15] <magicfab> is KDE / Kubuntu much "hungrier" than Gnome/Ubuntu ?
[11:15] <cotyrothery> i got a lot of text
[11:15] <cotyrothery> lol
[11:15] <luke__> at the moment with feisty i don't using beryl,i don't installed it
[11:15] <kasper> restarting Lynoure and BluesKaj, hoping for my internet to speed up! Thx :)
[11:16] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: The text is explaination of how to use mount. Just use the command I just gave you and after that use -> sudo ls /mnt
[11:16] <Camaxtli> and pastebin the responses you get
[11:16] <luke__> but with edgy i had compiz also
[11:17] <cotyrothery> i got no response
[11:17] <magicfab> so this badly needs updating: http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch03s04.html
[11:17] <magicfab> oups
[11:17] <cotyrothery> nothing happened when i typed sudo ls /mnt
[11:18] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Please highlight me by adding Camaxtli: in front of replies targeted at me. Also, what response did you get from the mount command?
[11:18] <cotyrothery> nothing
[11:18] <cotyrothery> what do you mean
[11:18] <cotyrothery> by highlight
[11:19] <Camaxtli> What I mean is: Begin a reply targeted at me with "Camaxtli: "
[11:19] <Camaxtli> Then I get a notification that someone wants me to read something
like this
[11:19] <Camaxtli> That works
[11:19] <cotyrothery> ok
[11:19] <cotyrothery> why is everyones text in color
[11:20] <cotyrothery> mine is not in color
[11:20] <kasper> Lynoure & BluesKaj - Thanks! Everything is much faster now!! Great! Lovin' it!
what should i do now
[11:21] <ScarFreewill> !info libdirectfb-0.9-24
[11:21] <ubotu> libdirectfb-0.9-24: frame buffer graphics library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.24-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 751 kB, installed size 1644 kB
[11:21] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: You didn't get a response when you did: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt ?
[11:21] <cotyrothery> yes i did
 I did get a response
[11:21] <luke__> someone knows what installing the fastrate modem usb? thx :-)
[11:21] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: What response?
[11:22] <cotyrothery> the one i pasted
[11:22] <kasper> Will there ever be a flash plugin for Opera you guys think?
[11:23] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: You even got that response with mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt ?
[11:23] <kasper> !flashplugin
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Camaxtli> !flash
[11:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:23] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
 Yes i got a responce
[11:24] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Pleas pastebin that response?
 I did
[11:24] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Strange, that command should've worked.
 it was the one i gave you before
[11:24] <cotyrothery> it did
 I't did
[11:25] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: I gave you a new command to use, it should give a different response
[11:25] <cotyrothery> ok
[11:25] <kasper> Camaxtli - But thats not for Opera is it?
[11:26] <rigved> Camaxtli: cotyrothery: could it have something to do with updating the mtab
 Wow yeah i got a diffrent responce
[11:26] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Pastebin all responses please.
[11:27] <eilker> any experience for sata2 ? i am thinking of buying 250 gb sata2 as slave , master is 80 gb ide.
[11:27] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: ok just give me a min so it can load
[11:27] <BluesKaj> kasper , in the terminal , " ip a | grep inet6" ...if there is no output then IPV6 is disabled
[11:28] <kasper> BluesKaj - It must be, i can teel by the speed on my browsering by now. Thank you!
[11:28] <bronze_0_1> Hi Guys. I'm building a new kubuntu server/development system.  I typically do an "almost everything" install when working from a set of 5 or 6 CD's.  With Kubuntu I don't have that option.  Is there anyplace with a list of meta packages that I can peruse?
[11:28] <kasper> BluesKaj - You wouldn't happen to know anything about flash plugin for Opera, would you?
[11:29] <sebbar> hi, somehow I manage to detach the tool options from the main window, how do I get it there again?
[11:29] <sebbar> sirry wrong channel :)
[11:29] <sebbar> *sorry
[11:29] <cotyrothery> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12394/
[11:29] <cotyrothery> Camaxtil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12394/
[11:30] <BluesKaj> kasper , in the opera adressbar type about:plugins ..it will list them all
[11:31] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: What did you do? Just type: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hb1 /mnt
[11:31] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: And give me the response to that
[11:31] <kasper> BluesKaj - I gives me these two: application/x-opera-nsplugin, /usr/lib/opera/plugins/libnpp.so ?
[11:31] <Bluedog> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
[11:31] <Bluedog> there doesnt seem to be one for opera
[11:31] <eilker> bronze_0_1> u wanna know what u gonna install at all ?
[11:31] <cotyrothery> camaxtli: i did
[11:31] <Bluedog> unless a firefox/mozilla one will work
[11:31] <cotyrothery> camaxtli: that is the response i got
[11:32] <kasper> It wont, i'v tried that.
[11:32] <Bluedog> =(
[11:32] <kasper> or a least iv think iv triede.. Cause iv tried alot by now!
[11:32] <ddesktop> hello does anybody happen to know if a recent update to Feisty has broken Adept?
[11:32] <eilker> bronze_0_1> i would use "ubuntu server" cd , than install whatever i want... kde etc...
[11:32] <kasper> i love Opera, and didn't see this as a problem for Kubuntu :\
[11:33] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: You did something else, you don't get that response from that command.
[11:33] <cotyrothery> ok
[11:33] <cotyrothery> Camaztli: what should i have goten
[11:34] <mknights> Does anyone here use a program called VirtualBox?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> is it like VMWare?
[11:34] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Something about the drive being mounted
[11:35] <cotyrothery> Camaxtil: i got something diffrent this time
[11:35] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: paste bin please.
[11:35] <tuzlo> does gimp support jpg's by default?
[11:35] <bronze_0_1> eilker: hi, sorry, I really want to be able to build an "almost everything" install would the server CD help me do that?
[11:36] <kasper> Well, im off to bed, thanks for your time BluesKaj and Bluedog :)
[11:36] <BluesKaj> > kasper , there is a flash plugin for opera ,
[11:36] <BluesKaj> > application/futuresplash	spl
[11:36] <BluesKaj> > application/x-shockwave-flash
[11:36] <bronze_0_1> eilker: will I be able to select most tools and utilities easily? fo example, centos has over 1500 packages installed, I dont want to have to decide and select that many things, that why I want the list of meta packages
[11:37] <eilker> bronze_0_1: i think that i misunderstood you , ubuntu server will install base system, but i can give you a package name almost for  all repo's for kubuntu
[11:37] <cotyrothery> camaxtil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12395/
[11:38] <eilker> bronze_0_1>official and unofficial
[11:38] <bronze_0_1> OK, I'l l start there.
[11:38] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12395/
[11:38] <bronze_0_1> oops, gotta run. pick up time.   BBL
[11:39] <eilker> bronze_0_1> oh ok
[11:40] <eilker> bronze_0_1> 3v1n0-sources-list  u may try this package ,
[11:40] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: You're missing a space between "ext3" and "/dev/hdb1"
[11:40] <ScarFreewill> does any one know how to install openoffice dictionarys
[11:41] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: i just copied and past what you gave me
[11:41] <ScarFreewill> example http://translate.org.za/download/spellchecker/afrikaans/myspell-pack-af-ZA-20060117.zip
[11:41] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hb1 /mnt (This version _is_ correct)
[11:41] <eilker>  is sata2  supported by ubuntu ?
[11:42] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: mount: special device /dev/hb1 does not exist
[11:42] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: That is the response i got
[11:43] <Camaxtli> hmm
[11:43] <Camaxtli> Are you sure you have two physical drives?
[11:43] <cotyrothery> yes
[11:43] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: How would i not
[11:44] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: LOL
[11:44] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: On which partition did you install de root partition?
[11:44] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: I tolled it to erase the whole drive
[11:45] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: Be right back
[11:47] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Try this then -> mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt
[11:47] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: Back, Ok hold on
[11:48] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: mount: only root can do that
[11:49] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: That is the response
[11:49] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Then add sudo in front of the command
[11:50] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: like sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt ?
[11:50] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: yes
[11:51] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: I got an error i have never seen before
[11:51] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: What error?
[11:51] <ins-dragonclaw> does anyone know any good snes emulators for kubuntu?
[11:52] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: I will past bin it
[11:52] <Camaxtli> k
[11:53] <ins-dragonclaw> *waits*
[11:53] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: I just want to let you know i know how you feel about all the problem that i have because i help people like this all the time just with there PSP and not linux LOL
[11:53] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12400/
[11:53] <yuan> hello
[11:54] <yuan> ppl
[11:55] <yuan> have somebody speech portuguese
[11:55] <ins-dragonclaw> !pt
[11:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:55] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Try this: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt
[11:55] <luke__> nao juan
[11:55] <luke__> eu vou para cama :-) lol
[11:56] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: mount: special device /dev/hda2 does not exist
[11:56] <yuan> thankx ppl
[11:56] <luke__> at amanha yuan :-)
[11:56] <ins-dragonclaw> cotyrothery: PSP, right?
[11:56] <peaker> cotyrothery: did you make any progress?
[11:56] <ins-dragonclaw> disconnect it, wait a few and reconnect
[11:57] <cotyrothery> ins-dragonclaw: Yes i help people with ther psp and how to hack them
[11:57] <yuan> ate amanha
[11:57] <yuan> luke
[11:57] <cotyrothery> peaker: No i have made no progress
[11:57] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hc1 /mnt
[11:57] <luke__> i'm tired yuan,sorry :-)
[11:58] <yuan> whre are u from
[11:58] <yuan> luke
[11:58] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: mount: special device /dev/hc1 does not exist
[11:58] <luke__> biella,north italy
[11:58] <yuan> no problem
[11:58] <luke__> and you?
[11:58] <peaker> cotyrothery: you should be able to install grub on the mbr, in which case your bios should definitely find an OS there.
[11:58] <yuan> I am from Maputo
[11:58] <peaker> cotyrothery: try to run grub, use the root and setup commands to set it on (hd0)
[11:58] <yuan> Mozambique
[11:58] <chuck> my main user on ubuntu edgy can use my DVD player to watch movies, but my mythtv user can't. anyone have any suggestions on what to check? what permissions would there be?
[11:58] <yuan> Africa
[11:58] <luke__> where is maputo?
[11:58] <luke__> ahhh
[11:58] <peaker> cotyrothery: and tell me if it succeeds,
[11:59] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Run the installation script and check what partition you installed kubuntu on
[11:59] <cotyrothery> peaker: Could you give me exact instructions
[11:59] <Camaxtli> peaker: He get "No OS"
[11:59] <ins-dragonclaw> yuan - you're in Mozambique? wow
[11:59] <ins-dragonclaw> <-- south africa
[11:59] <yuan> yas
[11:59] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: What programe do i do that with
[11:59] <yuan> which city
[11:59] <ins-dragonclaw> Pretoria
[12:00] <yuan> i have family
[12:00] <Camaxtli> cotrothery: The big "Install" link on the desktop
[12:00] <luke__> but are you african or other?
[12:00] <peaker> Camaxtli: ya he does
[12:00] <ins-dragonclaw> grrr .... nestra znes and fceu all failed... anyone know any other good snes emulators?
[12:00] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: Ok im there
[12:00] <ins-dragonclaw> I'm born and bred south african
[12:00] <yuan> I am african\
[12:00] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: now what
[12:00] <yuan> but my father is from frace
[12:00] <ScarFreewill> how to i use avifile-utils?
[12:00] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Run through it until you get at the partition manager, then select "manual"
[12:01] <yuan> but i never meet him
[12:01] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: Im at it
[12:01] <ScarFreewill> yuan: where do you live?
[12:01] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Then look at which partition is marked as ext3
[12:01] <cotyrothery> ok
[12:01] <ScarFreewill> !avifile-utils
[12:01] <ubotu> avifile-utils: utility programs using the avifile library. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.7.44.20051021-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 280 kB, installed size 852 kB
[12:01] <yuan> Mozambique-maputo
[12:01] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: By the way
[12:01] <ScarFreewill> South Africa - Cape Town
[12:02] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: If i ever disconnect it is because my computer froze
[12:02] <yuan> nice
[12:02] <kuwanger> I'm wanting to do a netboot install of kubuntu.  The documentation from kubuntu/ubuntu is very light on the subject, though.
[12:02] <ScarFreewill> ok so how do I use avifile-utils? can I use it?
[12:02] <luke__> why do you speak portuguese?
[12:02] <cotyrothery> bronze_0_1: What would that do
[12:03] <ScarFreewill> or how do I cut a piece of a avi vid?
[12:03] <cotyrothery> bronze_0_1: nevermind
[12:03] <yuan> Mozzambique speak portuguese
[12:03] <luke__> ah
[12:03] <peno> zdarec
[12:03] <yuan> some times do you come to maputo
[12:03] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[12:04] <peno> co je??
[12:04] <peno> to se smejes me bo co??
[12:04] <ins-dragonclaw> I live in the neighbouring country and i've never been to mozambique...
[12:04] <luke__> i didn't know it
[12:04] <yuan> why
[12:04] <peno> mluvte esky pii
[12:04] <peaker> cotyrothery: okay, run grub in a shell
[12:05] <ins-dragonclaw> ScarFreewill: you're in capetown?
[12:05] <peaker> cotyrothery: in a terminal
[12:05] <peaker> cotyrothery: sudo grub
[12:05] <ins-dragonclaw> lucky bugger....
[12:05] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: How can i tell
[12:05] <ScarFreewill> ins-dragonclaw: yeah
[12:05] <ins-dragonclaw> i need sun :/
[12:05] <ins-dragonclaw> it's only raining here
[12:05] <cotyrothery> Camzxtli: I has one drive
[12:05] <peno> co to blejete zasraky?? ikam mlufte esky kua... kdo je na vas zvdavej pichy...
[12:05] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: One drive and one partition I take it?
[12:05] <yuan> humm
[12:05] <ScarFreewill> ins-dragonclaw: *_^
[12:05] <yuan> u can come
[12:05] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[12:06] <yuan> here
[12:06] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: one drive
[12:06] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: Weird
[12:06] <Camaxtli> peaker: grub-install was the first thing I recommended ;)
[12:06] <peno> piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil
[12:06] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: You always had one drive with 2 partitions
[12:06] <ins-dragonclaw> O.o
[12:06] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: I have two drives why is only one showing up
[12:06] <peaker> cotyrothery: after you finish reinstalling, if it doesn't work, you can try running grub as root, then try inside grub to find out where your root partition is, in grub terms. That you can do by using the "cat" command to show a file.  "cat (hd0,0)/.." and try tab completion after that. If it works and shows you the files, then (hd0,0) is where your partition is at
[12:06] <ins-dragonclaw> is there a channel for binary?
[12:06] <luke__> however i'm going out,byeeee,see you soon :-)
[12:06] <kuwanger> peaker: Yo.
[12:06] <peno> hello girls !!
[12:06] <peaker> Camaxtli: but he doesn't know which device it installs on, and his mbr is probably kaput ;)
[12:06] <yuan> ok
[12:07] <peaker> kuwanger: hey. ltns
[12:07] <peaker> kuwanger: where you at now?
[12:07] <cotyrothery> peaker: um ok
[12:07] <luke__> kaput lol
[12:07] <kuwanger> peaker: Yea.  Going to install kubuntu on my mom's system because Windows 2000 doesn't want to install. :/
[12:07] <Camaxtli> peaker: I wish I had a ssh connection to his box so I could work faster
[12:07] <peno> s vam je e ty voe
[12:07] <luke__> ciao a tutti
[12:07] <kuwanger> peaker: Oh..same old, same old.
[12:07] <peno> with you is dialog
[12:07] <peaker> kuwanger: its been like 5 years - something must have changed!
[12:07] <cotyrothery> kuwanger: kubuntu might not want to install
[12:07] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: In how many parts is the hdd seperated?
[12:07] <peno> na hovnolizmus jak ikame my fitaci
[12:08] <yuan> ppl i have problem with my linux
[12:08] <peno> nebo spis fetaci :DD::D:DD::D:D:D:D:D:D
[12:08] <kuwanger> cotyrothery: Anything is possible.
[12:08] <kuwanger> peaker:  Well, I graduated from college.
[12:08] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: it does not say
[12:08] <peno> kuwanger: nothing is impossible
[12:08] <BluesKaj> peaker, Camaxtli, try not to confuse theings with cotyrothery , too many cooks ...and all that :(
[12:08] <yuan> it just play audio
[12:08] <peaker> kuwanger: and are you making the big bucks now?
[12:08] <yuan> not mp3
[12:08] <cotyrothery> Kuwanger: Yeah well it does not want to install for me
[12:08] <kuwanger> peaker: Not yet.
[12:08] <kuwanger> cotyrothery: Sorry to hear that.
[12:09] <peno> kuwanger: to je fpoho
[12:09] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Is the disk seperated by black lines?
[12:09] <cotyrothery> kuwanger: No problem because we have the best tech support right here
[12:09] <peaker> kuwanger: ah, I just came back from a big trip to New Zealand and Thailand, was fun ;)  Now gonna start making the big bucks heh
[12:09] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Or is it one big bar?
[12:09] <yuan> I ask any help
[12:09] <peno> vy ste teplousi
[12:09] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: Were should i look to see that
[12:09] <peno> you nigga bitches
[12:09] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: it is one big bar
[12:09] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: In the installation's partition manager
[12:09] <peno> are you hot???
[12:10] <peno> i want kubundy
[12:10] <kuwanger> peaker:  Oh, I also swung through a couple different ideologies over the years.  I think I've finally settled on a more permanent one.
[12:10] <peno> to je uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulet
[12:10] <ins-dragonclaw> Riddell
[12:10] <peaker> cotyrothery: oh I'm dumb, I read the grub manual and you can do something simpler: "find /boot/grub/stage1" will show you which partitions/devices you have that contain that
[12:10] <kuwanger> peaker:  One major aspect being, an end to copyright.
[12:10] <BluesKaj> peno, watch it
[12:10] <peno> it is fly away
[12:10] <peaker> kuwanger: ah, so now you agree with mine ;)
[12:11] <cotyrothery> peaker: i have done that many times
[12:11] <kuwanger> peaker: Meet any bar girls in Thailand? :)
[12:11] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: k. back one step and do the "erase entire hdd" thing
[12:11] <peno> BluesKaj: on what i should watch???
[12:11] <peaker> kuwanger: I think copyright should either disappear, or perhaps its better to just have commercial-only copyright for a few year period
[12:11] <cotyrothery> ok
[12:11] <peaker> kuwanger: heh all the local Thai girls are whores with HIV
[12:11] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: But i have dont that many times
[12:11] <frojnd> how can I download torrent with opera, and I mean just to download .torrent file cause when I click on a torrent to transfer it opera asks me where to save torrent and that will start using opera's bittorent client... I just wanna transger the torrent
[12:11] <Camaxtli> cotyrothery: Lets do the installation step by step
[12:11] <peaker> kuwanger: all the ones that you can hook up with as a tourist, anyhow
[12:11] <cotyrothery> Camaxtli: Nothing ever comes of it