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gnomefreaknot sure how i did that12:27
gnomefreakstate yes importance yes but wtf is ubuntu-desktop-effects i cant figure out12:27
gnomefreakits possible since we cant see the google code it might have something in there to prevent it from using PSm but i doubt it12:28
gnomefreakwhat was bug number of the ubuntu-desktop-effects crap?12:29
gnomefreakthat is my ubuntu.com email i might be using ubuntu.com for that team maybe12:29
gnomefreakthe google toolbar one. reporter stated if he removes it it works fine (i would almost say reject it) but eh atleast set it to low.12:31
gnomefreakok i think i like this, just have to get used to it12:49
gnomefreakasac: im not real sure bug 96683 is the forceful X shutdown. if it is than apport is slower than .6912:57
ubotuMalone bug 96683 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9668312:57
gnomefreak bug 9628801:03
ubotuMalone bug 96288 in firefox "unexpected shutdown" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9628801:03
gnomefreaki dont think the crash report is the same as the bug :(01:05
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gnomefreakasac: looks like you were correct about bug 96683 but you would have to review it01:37
ubotuMalone bug 96683 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9668301:37
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Admiral_Chicagohello all06:37
Admiral_Chicagowho is the person with a PPC machine08:32
Admiral_ChicagoAlexander S?08:32
Admiral_Chicagowhomever it is, please see bug #9559108:34
ubotuMalone bug 95591 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed PPC" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9559108:34
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gnomefreakis it feisty?01:20
asacapparently hung in NEW01:45
gnomefreakasac: look at bug 58454 should that go to us or mozilla it team?01:46
ubotuMalone bug 58454 in mozilla-thunderbird "bad accel in .it localization" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5845401:46
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asacgnomefreak: probably .... if its a bug at all01:50
asacCtrl-A works?01:51
gnomefreakdont know i dont use it locals01:51
asacmt-needtestcase then :)01:52
asacmt-needtester then :)01:52
asac:)01:52
asacsorry mistyped01:52
gnomefreakk01:53
gnomefreakreopened01:54
gnomefreakfx 2.0.0.3 is stuck in NEW?01:54
asaci think so01:55
asacfirefox-libthai01:55
asacis new package shipped from source01:55
gnomefreakohhhhhhhh01:55
gnomefreakthats not good01:55
asacat least it would explain it :)01:55
gnomefreakagreed01:55
gnomefreakdid you ping archive admins to push it?01:55
gnomefreakdpkg is borked01:57
asaci pinged ... will do so again in a few minutes :02:08
gnomefreaki just filed bug on dpkg02:08
gnomefreakcore util you would this it would work this close to release02:09
asacwhat?02:18
gnomefreakif you have dpkg fail during say upgrades than run sudo dpkg --configure -a it returns dpkg unknown -o02:24
gnomefreakbug 9693902:25
ubotuMalone bug 96939 in dpkg "dpkg in feisty doesnt work properly after dpkg fails on updates/installing apps." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9693902:25
asacgnomefreak: reproducible?02:34
gnomefreakit was told to me yesterday but i dismissed it as a screw up on user part but since it happened to me than i knoew it was dpkg02:36
asacbug 9350202:36
ubotuMalone bug 93502 in firefox "Default bookmarks link to invalid wiki frontpage address" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9350202:36
gnomefreakasac: its redirected02:38
gnomefreakhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=show&redirect=FrontPage02:39
gnomefreakthat i would say is fine for feisty but could be fixed for feisty+1 IMO02:39
gnomefreakmaybe instead of redirect send it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home02:42
asaci send it to wiki.ubuntu.com directlry02:46
asaci send it to wiki.ubuntu.com directly02:46
asacnow02:46
gnomefreaksame page02:51
gnomefreakill be back soon have to run to store02:51
asack02:52
asack we can dupe bug 91758 now that CoreDump.gz is broken03:42
ubotuMalone bug 91758 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed x86_64 [@gtk_style_realize] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9175803:42
asaci just wanted to use it to compare stacktrace from apport service with the one included in reporters one03:42
asacsad03:42
asaccool 2.0.0.3 is finally rolled-out03:43
asachttps://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu103:43
asaci guess bug 72018 is indeed the "most duped bug" in launchpad :)03:50
ubotuMalone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7201803:50
hjmfgood, firefox 2.0.0.3 apt-get-ting right now :)03:59
asacgreat :)04:00
hjmfFirefox/2.0.0.3 (Ubuntu-feisty) :D04:02
hjmf... now I'll have to modify a bit my retrace script to handle 2.0.0.2 vs 2.0.0.3 crashes04:03
hjmfhopefully there won't be too much 0.3 crashes04:04
=== gnomefreak found new edgy crash. atleast one i havent seen before
gnomefreakhjmf: there will. .3 only fixed security items04:05
hjmfit was just a hope :)04:06
gnomefreaki guess i should check the 3 bugs he talked about :(04:08
gnomefreakbug 621504:08
ubotuMalone bug 6215 in libranlip "libranlip: merge new debian version" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/621504:08
gnomefreakwtf is he talking about04:08
gnomefreakbug 1621504:09
ubotuMalone bug 16215 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Problem with USB2 storage devices, repeated kernel messages" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1621504:09
gnomefreakdoesnt make any sense at all04:09
gnomefreakbug 1238504:09
ubotuMalone bug 12385 in firefox "Left and right arrow keys do not work correctly when entering text into text boxes" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238504:09
gnomefreakok bug 96593 is in need of summary when you get time04:11
ubotuMalone bug 96593 in firefox "Firefox crashes on using <Alt>+left arrow" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9659304:11
gnomefreakasac: 2.0.0.3 hit servers :) ty04:27
asacyeah :)04:30
asachave fun ;)04:30
asacmaybe performance problems should be improved04:30
gnomefreakit wouldnt happen to fix bug 72018?04:34
ubotuMalone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7201804:34
hjmfgnomefreak: keep a copy of firefox-dbgsym_2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1_i386.ddeb before it gets rid of the servers04:34
asacanyone can do better than retracer on Bug 9696004:47
gnomefreakill look asap04:47
gnomefreakbug 9696004:47
asacgnomefreak: i doesn't ... its because the patch I have might break other plugins I am not aware of04:47
ubotuMalone bug 96960 in firefox "firefox crash" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9696004:47
gnomefreakah ok04:48
asacwe need a good testing community to fix this on our own04:48
gnomefreakwill ubuntu/mozilla allow us to patch it?04:48
asacfor ubuntu ... i am the one to decide :)04:48
asacfor mozilla ... they are pretty happy about us ... however, I guess they will not be happy unless we a) have tested this with all relevant plugins04:48
gnomefreakasac: on bug 96960 you wont get a better retrace. we have no -dbg -dbgsym for flashplugins04:49
ubotuMalone bug 96960 in firefox "firefox crash" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9696004:49
asacand b) we/they understand what is going on04:49
gnomefreakwell we have users from over 100 bugs to test it :)04:49
asachowever ... we are official beta tester for thai patch :) ... so maybe they would say, ok to the plugin patch04:49
asacgnomefreak: yeah ... but i know that it fixes the crash they have04:49
asacbut i don't know if it crashes users that have previously not strikken by that bug04:50
gnomefreakah good point04:50
asacanyway ... even if we don't get this in feisty ... we should definitly try to setup such a testing pool04:50
gnomefreakagreed04:51
asacwould be a good start if everyone in mozillateam could add what plugins they use to the wiki04:51
asacso we know what can be tested within04:51
asacthe team04:51
asacmakes no sense to call for a big testing (e.g. in forums)04:51
asacif we haven't done basic QA before04:51
=== gnomefreak doesnt use any really but flash and java. the rest i use only for testing
asacif things just break hard ... users might be distractd from testing for us in future again04:51
asacyou use totem as well i guess04:52
asac:)04:52
asacso we already have three :)04:52
asaci use gnash04:52
asacfour04:52
asac+ totem04:52
gnomefreakagreed. keep it inside the team for a bit utill we can say its fairly safe04:52
asacyeah ... maybe we need to call for brave testers to join the team04:52
gnomefreakmaybe set up a testing wiki?04:52
asacif we are not enough ... or brave enough :)04:52
gnomefreaki would needd to set up another edgy chroot before i can test it04:53
asachmmm imo wiki pages won't bring users to us :)04:53
asacwould be ok to check by following a testplan04:53
gnomefreakasac: no i mean for the plugins list you want04:53
asacah04:53
asacsure04:53
asacdefinitly04:53
asacMOzillaTeam/QA04:53
asacor something04:53
asaci will add test-plans for testing security releases as well04:54
gnomefreakthat sounds good to me.04:54
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gnomefreakmaybe something like "if you want to test mozilla products please see #ubuntu-mozillateam" this way we dont have people testing our products that just says it crashes screw this crap04:55
asacin a perfect world we would even test a good bunch of plugins for every upload04:55
asacyeah ... i think maybe a forum post like that would help04:55
gnomefreakim working on resetting up my planet blog stuff so i can blog about it04:55
asac"we want to extend our pre-release testing community" if you want to help and feel brave join us for instructions :)04:56
gnomefreakwho do we get to do wiki? maybe add it to meeting agenda for next week?04:56
asaclets file a bug :)04:56
asacto track this ;)04:56
gnomefreakwhat do you mean?04:56
gnomefreaktrack this on LP?04:56
asaci mean ... my workflow is already pretty ad-hoc04:56
asacyeah :) ... maybe not so good idea :)04:57
asachowever its more like ... i want to track todos somehow :)04:57
asacotherwise I will forget04:57
asaci forget everything if i get a bunch of work in my face04:57
asacand afterwards only the most important things come back alone :)04:58
hjmfthough I'm not used to use plugins (I'm quite a boring web surfer), though in the retracing chroots I'm sure that I have installed all of them. So I'll be able to test as much as you might want from inside the chroots  :)04:58
asachjmf: all?04:58
asaccan you paste a list?04:58
asacat best directly to wiki :)04:58
gnomefreakthat would be nice if we could set up a server for todos (Lp maybe) and that way team can add things and if someone does them they can pull it04:58
asacwait a second i set the basic page up04:58
asacgnomefreak: exactly04:59
gnomefreakhjmf: a list of your chroot plugins would be good for us retracers04:59
asachowever ... don't think that firefox or any other product would be suitable04:59
gnomefreakno and not sure LP will let us track something like that04:59
gnomefreakok i might lock up so please be patient05:00
hjmfjust checked my feisty chroot and the list is quite long05:01
asachjmf: thats good :)05:01
gnomefreaklong is good :)05:01
gnomefreaki need to be shot05:02
hjmfmplayerplug-in, Helix DNA Plugin, Kaffeine Starter Plugin, and so on05:02
gnomefreaki was just thinking lets make a meta package for edgy-retraces (popular packages you will need to run retraces)05:02
hjmfall from ubuntu packages, but might test third party ones05:03
hjmfas well05:03
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA05:03
asacmaybe add your list there ... i will reformat and you'll see how this works out :)05:04
hjmfOK give me a minute05:04
asace.g. add a list of Extension-Name / package-name (if applicable) ... or how to download05:04
asacthen we need a page to test each extension05:04
asac:)05:04
asaca simple url would help05:04
=== gnomefreak backing up /home before this bs happens again
asacand some kind extra info: e.g. if you have mplayer + totem you need to uninstall totem to test mplayer05:05
gnomefreakdoes this mean anything to anyone? SIGSEGV_oldact ()05:11
hjmfCreated a list of the ones that are loaded to firefox in my feisty chroot05:15
hjmfwith the package that provides each05:16
hjmfbold chars added :)05:18
hjmfI'm very bad on wikis05:18
hjmfgonna review my edgy chroot05:18
=== asac looking
asachjmf: you can add a link that triggers each plugin?05:19
asaci have no idea about some of them05:19
asacmovies i can do05:19
asacjava too i guess05:19
gnomefreakcant figure out how to mount USB stick as root :(05:19
hjmfyes, I'll do (I have no idea of what are most of them)05:19
asac:)05:20
asacDNA plugin is the best05:20
hjmfOh! on edgy I have some more 8)05:21
asaceven better05:22
asacSIGSEGV_oldact ... guess its some kind of signal handler implementation05:22
asacwhere is it?05:22
asacgnomefreak: ^^^05:23
gnomefreakthats really all i get :(05:23
gnomefreakbug 8152805:23
ubotuMalone bug 81528 in firefox "iTunes (Apple) website crashes Firefox" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8152805:23
asacah05:23
gnomefreakboth peoples are the same05:23
gnomefreaki uploaded stack and thread of one of the users so far05:23
asaccan we reproduce?05:24
asace.g. if totem is on site ... its probably theme crash05:25
asace.g. visit website ... change pages a few times05:25
asacchange theme05:25
asacshould crash05:25
asacvisit website -> some page with media content on it05:25
gnomefreaki will try to reproduce05:25
asaccrazy05:25
asacgrand paradiso just crash visiting05:25
asacitunes05:25
asacoh05:26
gnomefreaki need to figure out how to mount USB stick first as root05:26
asacyeah05:26
asaccrashes on visiting05:26
asacdamn05:26
asachttp://www.apple.com/itunes/05:26
asaccrashes for you too?05:27
asachjmf: gnomefreak ^^05:27
hjmftesting05:27
asactest with totem as well please05:27
gnomefreaktesting05:28
gnomefreaki need .mov plugin for totem any ideas?05:28
asacso it doesn't crash?05:28
asaci need it as well but it crashes05:29
gnomefreakjust opening doesnt crash it in .0.0.305:29
gnomefreakmplayer should play it but totem would be better to test with. this is feisty i will try with edgy in a minute05:29
asacok i have a self-patched totem ... lets see whathappens if i downgrade05:30
gnomefreaktheme crash in feisty05:30
gnomefreakchanged theme and poof05:31
asacok ... thats a different thing :)05:31
asacof course a valid crash ... but nothing new :)05:31
asacbut you could play?05:31
gnomefreaknope05:32
hjmfdoesn't crash ; but I couldn't play directly05:32
hjmfI had to open totem url to view it05:32
gnomefreakit shows up if you reload page than if you click replay it will go black05:32
asacok crash was due to borked totem here05:32
gnomefreaki didnt get anything in crash report05:32
asacgnomefreak: yes ... those are standard symptoms of gtk_style_realize05:32
asacgnomefreak: try reproduce with05:33
gnomefreakwe need a testcase on it to be honest05:33
asacfirefox -g05:33
asacrun05:33
gnomefreakfeisty?05:33
asacjust manual debugging05:33
asacif you doubt that its gtk_style_realize of course :)05:33
hjmfI cant get a direct play on the page05:34
gnomefreakfirefox-dbg was not installed :(05:35
gnomefreakhjmf: its .mov you wont its a highly restricted format05:35
gnomefreakw32codecs might and mplayer might05:35
gnomefreakgive me some time installing -dbg and it takes forever05:36
hjmfbut I can play it with totem05:36
asacme too ... lets test totem-xine05:36
hjmfit's the totem plugin what doesnt work05:36
hjmfgonna check in edgy05:37
asaci am on edgy05:37
asacplays with totem-gstreamer05:37
asacand with totem-xine as well05:37
hjmfon edgy it plays05:38
hjmf... directly on the page05:38
asacgnomefreak: i get no theme crash here05:39
asacon edgy05:39
gnomefreaki do on feisty05:39
asacbut wait :) ... maybe my ffox is patched :)05:39
gnomefreakwill get you bt05:39
asacyes please05:39
asacwhat setup? totem-xine? or totem-gstreamer?05:40
gnomefreakxine05:42
asacso you got a bt ?05:43
gnomefreakim still downloading -dbg05:43
gnomefreakfor 2.0.0.305:43
gnomefreakit didnt update it because -dbgsym had to be removed to upgrade and -dbgsym took place of -dbg05:43
asacah 2.0.0.3 has new feature: "Help -> Report a bug..."05:44
gnomefreakIMHO a shitty set up on that with -dbgsym taking place of -dbg but hindering upgrades05:44
asacdoes it work for you?05:44
gnomefreakdont know yet05:44
asac:)05:44
asacok05:44
gnomefreaksystem>report a problem does :)05:44
gnomefreakyes apport starts up05:45
asacgood05:45
gnomefreakit loading bug report page for LP05:45
asacyes05:45
asacthats fine05:45
asacwe should get additional info attached about setup then05:45
asaci think we should definitly try to get apport hooks into feisty05:45
asacstill don't know the state05:46
asacdfarning has disappeared :)05:46
gnomefreaklast time i saw him he was approved membership05:46
gnomefreaki feel like a stupid ass :(05:48
gnomefreakthere has to be a way to mount this POS as root so i can change permissions05:48
asacPOS?05:49
hjmf... list of 13 plugins wrote at MozillaTeam/QA05:49
asacgood05:49
asacwe have testpages for them?05:50
hjmf... meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA05:50
hjmfI just have to figure out some links and done05:50
gnomefreakPOS ==  piece of shit05:50
asacah05:51
asac:)05:51
asacyeah shit is not mountable in a decent fashion05:51
gnomefreak:)05:52
gnomefreaki can only mount it as read only05:52
gnomefreaki need to mount it read and write05:52
asacwhat fs?05:52
gnomefreaknot sure05:52
asacwhat does mount say?05:52
asace.g. mount05:52
gnomefreakalot05:52
asacin cmdline05:52
gnomefreakill pastebin it05:53
asacna ... just the line for that mount :)05:53
gnomefreakhttp://pastebin.ca/41221905:53
gnomefreaknot sure i had it mounted at that time hold on a sec05:54
gnomefreak/dev/sdd1 on /media/LEXAR type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077)05:54
gnomefreakhmmmm05:55
gnomefreakstill not mounted as root05:55
asacas uid=1000 obviously05:55
asacwhy would you want to mound as root?05:55
gnomefreakso i can delete things from it05:56
gnomefreakand move things from it to ~/05:56
asacls -la /media/LEXAR/05:56
asac?05:56
asace.g. what permissions/owners05:56
asacyou mount it as uid 1000 ... so user with that id should be able to write05:56
Admiral_Chicagothat would be the first user ever created05:57
gnomefreakhttp://pastebin.ca/41222505:57
gnomefreaka bunch see link05:57
Admiral_Chicagobbl, have to rest05:57
asacAdmiral_Chicago: bye05:57
gnomefreakgnomefreak == only users created05:57
Admiral_Chicagoasac: btw, you have a PPC machine for retracing05:57
asacno ... we just have05:57
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: just tag it05:58
asacneed-ppc-retrace05:58
asacbefore that i could log in and do it manually05:58
gnomefreakuse that tag :)05:58
Admiral_Chicagoi have, been waiting for them to come through05:58
asacbut i cannot tweak the procedure, so now need-ppc-retrace is the only thing we havbe05:58
asacyeah ... probably some hick-ups05:58
Admiral_Chicagodoesn't seem like there will be heavy development in that area05:58
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: i think the ppc retracer part died i was gonna ping pitti when i got time05:58
asacAdmiral_Chicago: there is devleopment going on ... I guess pitti will not stop until it works05:59
asacof course obviously he cannot dedicate 100% of this time for this05:59
asacor do you mean ppc?05:59
asacppc will be dropped at some point afaik05:59
gnomefreakok i can move things from one to another but still cant delete items from stick06:00
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: take your time. there seems to be a discrepency, one wiki page says need-ppc-retrace, the other says need-powerpc-retrace06:00
gnomefreakppc is still in feisty?06:00
gnomefreakits powerpc afaik but i will ping him or daniel06:00
Admiral_Chicagothere are packages for PPC afaik06:00
asacreally?06:00
asacon ubuntu-devel maillist pitti told need-ppc-retrace06:00
asacbut maybe this has changed now :)06:01
Admiral_Chicagoyea, one of the channel I was in said they are still ppc.06:01
asacpackages still build06:01
asacdon't know if supported06:01
Admiral_Chicagoasac: right, maybe the bugs pages has it wrong...06:01
Admiral_Chicagome neither.06:01
Admiral_Chicagohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags06:01
Admiral_Chicagothe apport page says need-ppc-retrace06:02
Admiral_ChicagoI've looked at pages that have both, neither seems have a retrace with it06:02
gnomefreak12:00 <      gnomefreak > pitti: is need-powerpc-retrtace down?06:02
gnomefreak12:00 <           pitti > gnomefreak: yes06:02
gnomefreak12:01 <           pitti > gnomefreak: it hanged in dpkg --unpack for  godknowshowlong06:02
gnomefreak12:01 <      gnomefreak > ah ok and that is right tag right?06:02
gnomefreak12:01 <           pitti > gnomefreak: I stopped it and I rebuild it with the  latest fixes as we speak06:02
gnomefreak12:01 <           pitti > gnomefreak: need-ppc-retrace06:03
gnomefreak12:01 <      gnomefreak > ah ok06:03
gnomefreak12:01 <           pitti > gnomefreak: we just had the same discussion with  seb128 in #u-desktop06:03
gnomefreaklooks like powerpc won the toss up06:03
asacgood06:03
asacmaybe someone should update BugSquad/Tags wiki then06:04
gnomefreakwait a minute i might be reading that wrong06:04
gnomefreak12:02 <           pitti > ok, then let me remove the 'transform dpkg  --architecture powerpc to ppc' special case and use  powerpc06:04
asaclets try06:04
gnomefreakdoes that mean its ppc with speicial case of powerpc?06:04
asacwe have two ppc bugs?06:04
asacwe can set independently?06:05
gnomefreakwe have a few atleast06:05
gnomefreakdoesnt matter its still down for a while06:05
asacwhen did pitti tell that ?06:05
asacwhatelse did he say?06:05
asaci think i should join ubuntu-desktop06:06
gnomefreakwe are talking in -devel06:06
gnomefreakim not in -desktop06:06
gnomefreaktag the powerpc06:07
gnomefreakneed-powerpc-retrace06:07
gnomefreakok lets see if i get a backtrace06:09
asachave you tried?06:09
asacshould be easy to find06:09
gnomefreakdid you look at the permissions link above? it seems i can do anything but remove/delete them from usb06:09
gnomefreakasac: retracer is down06:09
asacstill?06:10
asachmm06:10
gnomefreakafaik06:10
asacbut setting tags won't hurt i guess06:10
Admiral_Chicagoso we are using need-powerpc-retrace ?06:10
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: yes06:10
hjmfback again06:10
Admiral_Chicagois there a ppc case? is that special or does that just link to ppc?06:10
hjmf<asac wrote>  we have testpages for them?06:10
hjmfabout the plugins wiki page, what do you meant?06:10
hjmfa wiki page for each one?06:11
gnomefreakyou have got to be kidding me :(06:13
gnomefreakagain fails to crash with firefox -g06:13
gnomefreakwtf06:13
gnomefreaktrying in edgy06:17
gnomefreakits back up06:18
gnomefreakretracer for macs are up :)06:18
asacgnomefreak: can you still reproduce itunes crash at all?06:28
gnomefreakyes in feisty just not using gdb :( im working on edgy atm06:29
hjmfasac: tell me if you want me to do something else on page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA06:32
asacyes wait a sec06:32
asacyeah .... i ment links to sites where you can test that plugin06:33
asace.g. content is on that site :)06:33
asacotherwise looks fine06:33
hjmfI guess I don't understand, give me an example.06:34
asacyeah :)06:34
hjmfie a new wiki page for each plugin06:34
hjmfmaybe06:34
asacno06:34
hjmfk06:34
asacfor now it would be enough if we have06:34
asacone link to a page that has content that triggers a plugin06:34
asace.g. http://www.apple.com/itunes06:35
asacfor movies06:35
asac:)06:35
hjmfah ok06:35
asacso you can just click on that page06:35
asacand the plugin gets started06:35
asaci will weave some general things around that ... e.g. how to visit that site, what to do (e.g. reload) etc.06:35
gnomefreaki cant get it to crash at all in gdb i will try without it and see what trace i get.06:36
asachmmm heisenbug ... goes away if you try to look :)06:37
asacbut please verify06:37
asaci couldn't get theme crash here06:37
asacon edgy of course06:37
asaclatest (not-yet pushed) security update06:37
asac2.0.0.3 ... so should be more or less the same then feisty06:37
hjmfasac:  something like the entry on Totem 2.18.0 plugin06:37
hjmf?06:38
asacyeah06:38
asacfor now just one url would be enough06:38
hjmfok06:39
gnomefreakwith edgy i can play the .mov its using vlc and not crashing with theme change or not06:40
hjmfI'll be filling that page as I get those links (maybe from reporters feed back)06:41
gnomefreakcant crash it now in feisty maybe it was just dumb luck06:42
asachjmf: cool06:45
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hjmfasac: http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_atomic/28weekslater/medium.html plays rightly07:15
hjmftotem plugin07:16
asacyes it does07:17
asacwhy?07:17
hjmfno idea, it's the same kind of format .mov and the same site07:25
hjmftested because of bug 9704507:26
ubotuMalone bug 97045 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in vfprintf()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9704507:26
asacwhat time is it at pacific right now?07:29
asac@time07:29
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: March 27 2007, 17:29:07 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 2 hours 30 minutes07:29
asac:)07:29
asac@time PST07:29
asac@time Pacifi07:29
asac@time Pacific07:29
ubotuCurrent time in Canada/Pacific: March 27 2007, 09:29:17 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 2 hours 30 minutes07:29
asac@time Eastern07:30
ubotuCurrent time in Canada/Eastern: March 27 2007, 13:30:37 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 2 hours 29 minutes07:30
asac@time berlin07:30
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Berlin: March 27 2007, 19:30:51 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 2 hours 29 minutes07:30
asacworks07:30
asacbtw, why was ubugtu renamed?07:32
asacubotu: ?07:32
asacoh probably ubugtu was for bugs only ... which ubotu took over as well07:32
hjmfreally curious, now I can see any video in apple.com07:34
hjmfI promise that I haven't touch anything07:34
hjmf... and it's the same session07:34
asacyeah totem hangs from time to time07:35
asacmight as well not work after reload07:36
asacusually it works on first try07:36
asacbut have seen that it didn't07:36
asacas well07:36
hjmfjust surprised me :)07:36
asacimo its a dbus thing07:37
asace.g. totem forks out the player to a new process07:37
asacand sends commands to that process through dbus07:37
asacwhich no other plugin does07:37
asaci have the feeling that fails or take some time to find the process ... and things fail completely07:37
hjmf/usr/lib/totem/totem-plugin-viewer --plugin-type narrowspace --user-agent Mozilla/....07:38
hjmfps output when works07:39
asacyes .... those processes keeep hanging around07:39
asacyou see more than one of those?07:39
asachttp://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/07:40
asacif you switch between movies on that page07:40
asacyou see what i mean07:40
asac/usr/lib/totem/totem-plugin-viewer are not properly killed07:40
hjmfjust one, but now doesn't play though it is reporter on ps07:41
asachmm07:41
asacyes .... probably its the old process07:42
hjmfnope, now two as you said07:42
asacmaybe try observe07:42
hjmfone plays right and the other is in black07:42
asacyou try multiple at once?07:42
asacor just by switching?07:42
hjmfyes, it's as you said, one for each play07:42
hjmfone ps process for each play07:43
asacgood ... but on the other page they don't accumulate like that?07:43
asace.g. by pressing reload?07:43
hjmfI'll try again07:43
hjmfon a reload the same process still as it was07:44
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asacsame process id?07:45
asacbut works?07:45
hjmfnope, my fault, it gets another pid07:45
asacok07:45
asacbut fails?07:45
asacor works?07:45
asacanything special if it fails?07:45
hjmfworks on most of them07:45
hjmffails on some07:46
hjmfbut nothing special07:46
hjmfjust don't play07:46
asacand process is there with new pid?07:46
hjmfthe process is called07:46
hjmfand gets *older* as if it were playing07:46
hjmfwere/was07:47
asachmm ... so two different bugs ... doesn't play + doesn't get killed07:47
asaci think we get restyle bug if it doesn't get killed07:47
hjmfno it gets killed if I close the page, maybe I didn't explain right07:47
asacyes ... i think i understood07:48
asacits properly killed for your initial page07:48
asacwhile its not for apple .../ads07:48
hjmfyes07:48
asacif you just visit initial page it shouldn't crash on retheme07:48
asacwhile it does on /ads07:48
hjmfI'm trying to force a crash to see what happens, but I'm unable :)07:51
hjmfasac: first 2.0.0.3 crash bug 97074 Taking to retrace08:02
ubotuMalone bug 97074 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9707408:02
asachjmf: lets see :)08:06
asachjmf: probably its crash on instant X shutdown08:09
asacas usualy08:09
asacor?08:09
asachmm08:09
hjmfalready retraced, but I'm gonna do some tests before uploading the retrace08:11
asacbad retrace?08:12
hjmflibnss3-dbgsym libnspr4-dbgsym are in your repo or in pitti's08:12
hjmf?08:12
hjmfsome unresolved symbols08:12
asacno08:20
asacnot yet generated08:20
asacyou know howto create on your own?08:20
hjmfno, but I've located pitti's ones08:21
asacah ok08:21
hjmfthough I have to force them08:21
hjmfbecause of version complaint08:21
hjmfasac: is there a link to learn howto create dbgsym packages?08:23
hjmfnot a good retrace, http://librarian.launchpad.net/6998668/%3Cfdopen%3E08:25
asacits simple08:46
asacinstall pkg-create-dbgsym08:46
asacthen build ffox like08:46
asacDEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noopt dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot08:46
asacthis will produce dbgsym automagically08:46
asaccrash on instant  X shutdown is tackled in firefox 308:49
asacOSPI-006a08:49
asachttp://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pI03pN79HP0uaNF4AzdeYTw08:50
asacthough "At risk"08:50
hjmfthank you08:55
hjmfI understand that it might work as well for other packages, right?08:56
asacfo rall that support09:04
asacDEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noopt09:04
asace.g thunderbird is still buggy09:04
asacin this regards09:04
hjmfk, I will try to build something just to learn when I'll have some time09:07
hjmf:)09:07
hjmfon bug 97088 reporter claims "while the automatic bug report was finishing it opened a browser with a invalid url" and attach this screenshot09:16
ubotuMalone bug 97088 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed [@js_FinalizeStringRT] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9708809:16
hjmfhttp://librarian.launchpad.net/6998873/bug_firefox_ubuntu.png09:16
hjmfTwo bugs reported from 0.3, both have the same cause and the same retraced stacktrace. But what bothers me both have a bunch of unretraced symbols09:22
hjmfmaybe because what caused them09:23
hjmfdunno (of course) :)09:23
hjmfbugs are: bug 97089 and bug 9707409:24
ubotuMalone bug 97089 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9708909:24
ubotuMalone bug 97074 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9707409:24
hjmfhopefully is not a problem on 0.3 retraces09:24
asachmm09:25
asachjmf: where did you get the png from?09:31
hjmfasac: bug 9708809:31
ubotuMalone bug 97088 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed [@js_FinalizeStringRT] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9708809:31
asaclooks like about a wrong url bug?09:32
asacnot a crash09:32
asacah ok ... the url thing is known09:32
asacso nevermind09:32
asacbug 97089 is colorzilla09:34
ubotuMalone bug 97089 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9708909:34
asac#26 0xb7e95d96 in nsNativeComponentLoader::SelfRegisterDll (this=0x808a7e0, dll=0x818fda8,09:35
asac    registryLocation=0x83f3048 "abs:/home/gerrit/.mozilla/firefox/j7ch377q.default/extensions/{6AC85730-7D0F-4de0-B3FA-21142DD85326}/components/ColorZilla.dll", deferred=0) at nsNativeComponentLoader.cpp:42109:35
asacres2 = <value optimized out>09:36
asacres = 009:36
asacserviceMgr = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x808a3b4}, <No data fields>}09:36
asacfs = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x81900e8}, <No data fields>}09:36
asacmobj = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x818fd58}, <No data fields>}09:36
asac#27 0xb7e96c7a in nsNativeComponentLoader::AutoRegisterComponent (this=0x808a7e0, when=0, component=0x81900e8, registered=0xbfea4268)09:36
asacsame for bug 9707409:36
ubotuMalone bug 97074 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9707409:36
asacbug 97088 is most likely dupe: "crash on instant X shutdown"09:37
ubotuMalone bug 97088 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed [@js_FinalizeStringRT] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9708809:37
asacso all old dups :)09:37
asacno regression ;)09:38
asacfine09:38
gnomefreakasac: how do we handle enigmail?09:44
gnomefreaksecurity releases09:44
gnomefreak06/03/2007 Important Security fix for Enigmail. A security bug detected by Core Security Technologies has been fixed in Enigmail v0.94.3.09:44
gnomefreakthe date kind of bothers me09:45
gnomefreaksince enigmail is built with TB is why i ask how we handle that09:46
gnomefreakbug 9701109:47
ubotuMalone bug 97011 in enigmail "Security fix in 0.94.3" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9701109:47
hjmfthen both collorzilla crashes? the unretraced stuff comes from that plugin? then marking as dups of colorzilla master :)09:56
asacprobably :)09:58
hjmfchecked, are the same retrace that the one on bug 8538209:59
ubotuMalone bug 85382 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed - colorzilla - [@nsNativeComponentLoader::AutoRegisterComponent] " [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8538209:59
hjmfgood night lads10:15
asacgnomefreak: that one does not apply10:18
gnomefreakok10:19
asacbut since security press is confusing we should nevertheless update it for feisty10:19
gnomefreakreject it due to?10:19
asacit was fixed in gnupg update10:19
asacnot an enigmail bug ... but gnupg ... and latest gnupg ships the fix10:19
asacenigmail just contains workaround in case gnupg is not fixed10:19
asacas well as som UI improvements for new gnupg error messages due to this problem10:19
gnomefreakok will comment10:22
gnomefreakis LP down?10:25
gnomefreakok screw it ill comment later on it Lp is down atm10:27
asack10:31
asacbug 1210:31
asaclooks like down10:31
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gnomefreak:)10:31
gnomefreakthe guy that was checking it just got kicked off line or closed irc10:32
gnomefreakill be back later ;)10:32
asacpeople just don't understand10:34
asac> I am having the same problem. Happens both with Firefox and Opera.10:34
asac> -- Firefox crash https://launchpad.net/bugs/2472810:34
asacPlease file a  seperate bug and attach the full crash report. This bug10:34
asachas enough crashreports that are not the same as one another.10:34
asacso what does he do?10:34
asacsimple10:34
asacHere is my crash report if it helps any.10:35
gnomefreaklol10:35
asac** Attachment added: "Crash Report"10:35
asac   http://librarian.launchpad.net/6999272/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash10:35
asac--10:35
asacFirefox crash10:35
gnomefreakmoron10:35
asachttps://launchpad.net/bugs/2472810:35
asaci think you should use please file a new bug10:35
gnomefreakasac: if you remind me ill file a bug for him10:35
asacinstead of separate10:35
asacuse new10:35
asacmore simple10:35
asacna ... forget it10:35
gnomefreakok10:35
asacpeople that file against 2472810:35
asacare not worth to be taken care of10:35
asacwe did this already for those who initially did10:36
asacnow its just too late10:36
gnomefreaktrue10:36
asacsome just have to sink10:36
asacso what is that bug about?10:37
asacit has not master et al10:37
asaci think we should just reject it10:37
asacthis is a sinking bug :)10:37
asacMOST WANTED TESTCASE: IA__gtk_style_apply_default_background11:02
gnomefreakdo we have a stable testcase for that crash?11:37
gnomefreakthere fixed11:44
asacwhat?11:47
asachow can it be MOST WANTED if we have it :)11:47
gnomefreakoh testcase i though you said tester :(11:49
gnomefreaksorry been a long day11:49
=== gnomefreak might work on bugs tomorrow today is shot and im wore out
gnomefreakif anyone needs anything ping me ill get back to you asap11:55
asacsure11:57
asacnight!11:57
gnomefreaknight11:59

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