[12:27] not sure how i did that [12:27] state yes importance yes but wtf is ubuntu-desktop-effects i cant figure out [12:28] its possible since we cant see the google code it might have something in there to prevent it from using PSm but i doubt it [12:29] what was bug number of the ubuntu-desktop-effects crap? [12:29] that is my ubuntu.com email i might be using ubuntu.com for that team maybe [12:31] the google toolbar one. reporter stated if he removes it it works fine (i would almost say reject it) but eh atleast set it to low. [12:49] ok i think i like this, just have to get used to it [12:57] asac: im not real sure bug 96683 is the forceful X shutdown. if it is than apport is slower than .69 [12:57] Malone bug 96683 in firefox "[apport] firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96683 [01:03] bug 96288 [01:03] Malone bug 96288 in firefox "unexpected shutdown" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96288 [01:05] i dont think the crash report is the same as the bug :( === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:37] asac: looks like you were correct about bug 96683 but you would have to review it [01:37] Malone bug 96683 in firefox "[apport] firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96683 === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Admiral_Chicago [n=Admiral_@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [06:37] hello all [08:32] who is the person with a PPC machine [08:32] Alexander S? [08:34] whomever it is, please see bug #95591 [08:34] Malone bug 95591 in firefox "[feisty] Firefox Crashed PPC" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95591 === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:20] is it feisty? [01:45] apparently hung in NEW [01:46] asac: look at bug 58454 should that go to us or mozilla it team? [01:46] Malone bug 58454 in mozilla-thunderbird "bad accel in .it localization" [Undecided,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58454 === hjmf_ [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:50] gnomefreak: probably .... if its a bug at all [01:51] Ctrl-A works? [01:51] dont know i dont use it locals [01:52] mt-needtestcase then :) [01:52] mt-needtester then :) [01:52] :) [01:52] sorry mistyped [01:53] k [01:54] reopened [01:54] fx 2.0.0.3 is stuck in NEW? [01:55] i think so [01:55] firefox-libthai [01:55] is new package shipped from source [01:55] ohhhhhhhh [01:55] thats not good [01:55] at least it would explain it :) [01:55] agreed [01:55] did you ping archive admins to push it? [01:57] dpkg is borked [02:08] i pinged ... will do so again in a few minutes : [02:08] i just filed bug on dpkg [02:09] core util you would this it would work this close to release [02:18] what? [02:24] if you have dpkg fail during say upgrades than run sudo dpkg --configure -a it returns dpkg unknown -o [02:25] bug 96939 [02:25] Malone bug 96939 in dpkg "dpkg in feisty doesnt work properly after dpkg fails on updates/installing apps." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96939 [02:34] gnomefreak: reproducible? [02:36] it was told to me yesterday but i dismissed it as a screw up on user part but since it happened to me than i knoew it was dpkg [02:36] bug 93502 [02:36] Malone bug 93502 in firefox "Default bookmarks link to invalid wiki frontpage address" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93502 [02:38] asac: its redirected [02:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=show&redirect=FrontPage [02:39] that i would say is fine for feisty but could be fixed for feisty+1 IMO [02:42] maybe instead of redirect send it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home [02:46] i send it to wiki.ubuntu.com directlry [02:46] i send it to wiki.ubuntu.com directly [02:46] now [02:51] same page [02:51] ill be back soon have to run to store [02:52] k [03:42] k we can dupe bug 91758 now that CoreDump.gz is broken [03:42] Malone bug 91758 in firefox "[feisty] Firefox Crashed x86_64 [@gtk_style_realize] " [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91758 [03:42] i just wanted to use it to compare stacktrace from apport service with the one included in reporters one [03:42] sad [03:43] cool 2.0.0.3 is finally rolled-out [03:43] https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu1 [03:50] i guess bug 72018 is indeed the "most duped bug" in launchpad :) [03:50] Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 [03:59] good, firefox 2.0.0.3 apt-get-ting right now :) [04:00] great :) [04:02] Firefox/2.0.0.3 (Ubuntu-feisty) :D [04:03] ... now I'll have to modify a bit my retrace script to handle 2.0.0.2 vs 2.0.0.3 crashes [04:04] hopefully there won't be too much 0.3 crashes === gnomefreak found new edgy crash. atleast one i havent seen before [04:05] hjmf: there will. .3 only fixed security items [04:06] it was just a hope :) [04:08] i guess i should check the 3 bugs he talked about :( [04:08] bug 6215 [04:08] Malone bug 6215 in libranlip "libranlip: merge new debian version" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6215 [04:08] wtf is he talking about [04:09] bug 16215 [04:09] Malone bug 16215 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Problem with USB2 storage devices, repeated kernel messages" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16215 [04:09] doesnt make any sense at all [04:09] bug 12385 [04:09] Malone bug 12385 in firefox "Left and right arrow keys do not work correctly when entering text into text boxes" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12385 [04:11] ok bug 96593 is in need of summary when you get time [04:11] Malone bug 96593 in firefox "Firefox crashes on using +left arrow" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96593 [04:27] asac: 2.0.0.3 hit servers :) ty [04:30] yeah :) [04:30] have fun ;) [04:30] maybe performance problems should be improved [04:34] it wouldnt happen to fix bug 72018? [04:34] Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 [04:34] gnomefreak: keep a copy of firefox-dbgsym_2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1_i386.ddeb before it gets rid of the servers [04:47] anyone can do better than retracer on Bug 96960 [04:47] ill look asap [04:47] bug 96960 [04:47] gnomefreak: i doesn't ... its because the patch I have might break other plugins I am not aware of [04:47] Malone bug 96960 in firefox "firefox crash" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96960 [04:48] ah ok [04:48] we need a good testing community to fix this on our own [04:48] will ubuntu/mozilla allow us to patch it? [04:48] for ubuntu ... i am the one to decide :) [04:48] for mozilla ... they are pretty happy about us ... however, I guess they will not be happy unless we a) have tested this with all relevant plugins [04:49] asac: on bug 96960 you wont get a better retrace. we have no -dbg -dbgsym for flashplugins [04:49] Malone bug 96960 in firefox "firefox crash" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96960 [04:49] and b) we/they understand what is going on [04:49] well we have users from over 100 bugs to test it :) [04:49] however ... we are official beta tester for thai patch :) ... so maybe they would say, ok to the plugin patch [04:49] gnomefreak: yeah ... but i know that it fixes the crash they have [04:50] but i don't know if it crashes users that have previously not strikken by that bug [04:50] ah good point [04:50] anyway ... even if we don't get this in feisty ... we should definitly try to setup such a testing pool [04:51] agreed [04:51] would be a good start if everyone in mozillateam could add what plugins they use to the wiki [04:51] so we know what can be tested within [04:51] the team [04:51] makes no sense to call for a big testing (e.g. in forums) [04:51] if we haven't done basic QA before === gnomefreak doesnt use any really but flash and java. the rest i use only for testing [04:51] if things just break hard ... users might be distractd from testing for us in future again [04:52] you use totem as well i guess [04:52] :) [04:52] so we already have three :) [04:52] i use gnash [04:52] four [04:52] + totem [04:52] agreed. keep it inside the team for a bit utill we can say its fairly safe [04:52] yeah ... maybe we need to call for brave testers to join the team [04:52] maybe set up a testing wiki? [04:52] if we are not enough ... or brave enough :) [04:53] i would needd to set up another edgy chroot before i can test it [04:53] hmmm imo wiki pages won't bring users to us :) [04:53] would be ok to check by following a testplan [04:53] asac: no i mean for the plugins list you want [04:53] ah [04:53] sure [04:53] definitly [04:53] MOzillaTeam/QA [04:53] or something [04:54] i will add test-plans for testing security releases as well [04:54] that sounds good to me. === hjmf steps in and says +1 [04:55] maybe something like "if you want to test mozilla products please see #ubuntu-mozillateam" this way we dont have people testing our products that just says it crashes screw this crap [04:55] in a perfect world we would even test a good bunch of plugins for every upload [04:55] yeah ... i think maybe a forum post like that would help [04:55] im working on resetting up my planet blog stuff so i can blog about it [04:56] "we want to extend our pre-release testing community" if you want to help and feel brave join us for instructions :) [04:56] who do we get to do wiki? maybe add it to meeting agenda for next week? [04:56] lets file a bug :) [04:56] to track this ;) [04:56] what do you mean? [04:56] track this on LP? [04:56] i mean ... my workflow is already pretty ad-hoc [04:57] yeah :) ... maybe not so good idea :) [04:57] however its more like ... i want to track todos somehow :) [04:57] otherwise I will forget [04:57] i forget everything if i get a bunch of work in my face [04:58] and afterwards only the most important things come back alone :) [04:58] though I'm not used to use plugins (I'm quite a boring web surfer), though in the retracing chroots I'm sure that I have installed all of them. So I'll be able to test as much as you might want from inside the chroots :) [04:58] hjmf: all? [04:58] can you paste a list? [04:58] at best directly to wiki :) [04:58] that would be nice if we could set up a server for todos (Lp maybe) and that way team can add things and if someone does them they can pull it [04:58] wait a second i set the basic page up [04:59] gnomefreak: exactly [04:59] hjmf: a list of your chroot plugins would be good for us retracers [04:59] however ... don't think that firefox or any other product would be suitable [04:59] no and not sure LP will let us track something like that [05:00] ok i might lock up so please be patient [05:01] just checked my feisty chroot and the list is quite long [05:01] hjmf: thats good :) [05:01] long is good :) [05:02] i need to be shot [05:02] mplayerplug-in, Helix DNA Plugin, Kaffeine Starter Plugin, and so on [05:02] i was just thinking lets make a meta package for edgy-retraces (popular packages you will need to run retraces) [05:03] all from ubuntu packages, but might test third party ones [05:03] as well [05:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA [05:04] maybe add your list there ... i will reformat and you'll see how this works out :) [05:04] OK give me a minute [05:04] e.g. add a list of Extension-Name / package-name (if applicable) ... or how to download [05:04] then we need a page to test each extension [05:04] :) [05:04] a simple url would help === gnomefreak backing up /home before this bs happens again [05:05] and some kind extra info: e.g. if you have mplayer + totem you need to uninstall totem to test mplayer [05:11] does this mean anything to anyone? SIGSEGV_oldact () [05:15] Created a list of the ones that are loaded to firefox in my feisty chroot [05:16] with the package that provides each [05:18] bold chars added :) [05:18] I'm very bad on wikis [05:18] gonna review my edgy chroot === asac looking [05:19] hjmf: you can add a link that triggers each plugin? [05:19] i have no idea about some of them [05:19] movies i can do [05:19] java too i guess [05:19] cant figure out how to mount USB stick as root :( [05:19] yes, I'll do (I have no idea of what are most of them) [05:20] :) [05:20] DNA plugin is the best [05:21] Oh! on edgy I have some more 8) [05:22] even better [05:22] SIGSEGV_oldact ... guess its some kind of signal handler implementation [05:22] where is it? [05:23] gnomefreak: ^^^ [05:23] thats really all i get :( [05:23] bug 81528 [05:23] Malone bug 81528 in firefox "iTunes (Apple) website crashes Firefox" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81528 [05:23] ah [05:23] both peoples are the same [05:23] i uploaded stack and thread of one of the users so far [05:24] can we reproduce? [05:25] e.g. if totem is on site ... its probably theme crash [05:25] e.g. visit website ... change pages a few times [05:25] change theme [05:25] should crash [05:25] visit website -> some page with media content on it [05:25] i will try to reproduce [05:25] crazy [05:25] grand paradiso just crash visiting [05:25] itunes [05:26] oh [05:26] i need to figure out how to mount USB stick first as root [05:26] yeah [05:26] crashes on visiting [05:26] damn [05:26] http://www.apple.com/itunes/ [05:27] crashes for you too? [05:27] hjmf: gnomefreak ^^ [05:27] testing [05:27] test with totem as well please [05:28] testing [05:28] i need .mov plugin for totem any ideas? [05:28] so it doesn't crash? [05:29] i need it as well but it crashes [05:29] just opening doesnt crash it in .0.0.3 [05:29] mplayer should play it but totem would be better to test with. this is feisty i will try with edgy in a minute [05:30] ok i have a self-patched totem ... lets see whathappens if i downgrade [05:30] theme crash in feisty [05:31] changed theme and poof [05:31] ok ... thats a different thing :) [05:31] of course a valid crash ... but nothing new :) [05:31] but you could play? [05:32] nope [05:32] doesn't crash ; but I couldn't play directly [05:32] I had to open totem url to view it [05:32] it shows up if you reload page than if you click replay it will go black [05:32] ok crash was due to borked totem here [05:32] i didnt get anything in crash report [05:32] gnomefreak: yes ... those are standard symptoms of gtk_style_realize [05:33] gnomefreak: try reproduce with [05:33] we need a testcase on it to be honest [05:33] firefox -g [05:33] run [05:33] feisty? [05:33] just manual debugging [05:33] if you doubt that its gtk_style_realize of course :) [05:34] I cant get a direct play on the page [05:35] firefox-dbg was not installed :( [05:35] hjmf: its .mov you wont its a highly restricted format [05:35] w32codecs might and mplayer might [05:36] give me some time installing -dbg and it takes forever [05:36] but I can play it with totem [05:36] me too ... lets test totem-xine [05:36] it's the totem plugin what doesnt work [05:37] gonna check in edgy [05:37] i am on edgy [05:37] plays with totem-gstreamer [05:37] and with totem-xine as well [05:38] on edgy it plays [05:38] ... directly on the page [05:39] gnomefreak: i get no theme crash here [05:39] on edgy [05:39] i do on feisty [05:39] but wait :) ... maybe my ffox is patched :) [05:39] will get you bt [05:39] yes please [05:40] what setup? totem-xine? or totem-gstreamer? [05:42] xine [05:43] so you got a bt ? [05:43] im still downloading -dbg [05:43] for 2.0.0.3 [05:43] it didnt update it because -dbgsym had to be removed to upgrade and -dbgsym took place of -dbg [05:44] ah 2.0.0.3 has new feature: "Help -> Report a bug..." [05:44] IMHO a shitty set up on that with -dbgsym taking place of -dbg but hindering upgrades [05:44] does it work for you? [05:44] dont know yet [05:44] :) [05:44] ok [05:44] system>report a problem does :) [05:45] yes apport starts up [05:45] good [05:45] it loading bug report page for LP [05:45] yes [05:45] thats fine [05:45] we should get additional info attached about setup then [05:45] i think we should definitly try to get apport hooks into feisty [05:46] still don't know the state [05:46] dfarning has disappeared :) [05:46] last time i saw him he was approved membership [05:48] i feel like a stupid ass :( [05:48] there has to be a way to mount this POS as root so i can change permissions [05:49] POS? [05:49] ... list of 13 plugins wrote at MozillaTeam/QA [05:49] good [05:50] we have testpages for them? [05:50] ... meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA [05:50] I just have to figure out some links and done [05:50] POS == piece of shit [05:51] ah [05:51] :) [05:51] yeah shit is not mountable in a decent fashion [05:52] :) [05:52] i can only mount it as read only [05:52] i need to mount it read and write [05:52] what fs? [05:52] not sure [05:52] what does mount say? [05:52] e.g. mount [05:52] alot [05:52] in cmdline [05:53] ill pastebin it [05:53] na ... just the line for that mount :) [05:53] http://pastebin.ca/412219 [05:54] not sure i had it mounted at that time hold on a sec [05:54] /dev/sdd1 on /media/LEXAR type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077) [05:55] hmmmm [05:55] still not mounted as root [05:55] as uid=1000 obviously [05:55] why would you want to mound as root? [05:56] so i can delete things from it [05:56] and move things from it to ~/ [05:56] ls -la /media/LEXAR/ [05:56] ? [05:56] e.g. what permissions/owners [05:56] you mount it as uid 1000 ... so user with that id should be able to write [05:57] that would be the first user ever created [05:57] http://pastebin.ca/412225 [05:57] a bunch see link [05:57] bbl, have to rest [05:57] Admiral_Chicago: bye [05:57] gnomefreak == only users created [05:57] asac: btw, you have a PPC machine for retracing [05:57] no ... we just have [05:58] Admiral_Chicago: just tag it [05:58] need-ppc-retrace [05:58] before that i could log in and do it manually [05:58] use that tag :) [05:58] i have, been waiting for them to come through [05:58] but i cannot tweak the procedure, so now need-ppc-retrace is the only thing we havbe [05:58] yeah ... probably some hick-ups [05:58] doesn't seem like there will be heavy development in that area [05:58] Admiral_Chicago: i think the ppc retracer part died i was gonna ping pitti when i got time [05:59] Admiral_Chicago: there is devleopment going on ... I guess pitti will not stop until it works [05:59] of course obviously he cannot dedicate 100% of this time for this [05:59] or do you mean ppc? [05:59] ppc will be dropped at some point afaik [06:00] ok i can move things from one to another but still cant delete items from stick [06:00] gnomefreak: take your time. there seems to be a discrepency, one wiki page says need-ppc-retrace, the other says need-powerpc-retrace [06:00] ppc is still in feisty? [06:00] its powerpc afaik but i will ping him or daniel [06:00] there are packages for PPC afaik [06:00] really? [06:00] on ubuntu-devel maillist pitti told need-ppc-retrace [06:01] but maybe this has changed now :) [06:01] yea, one of the channel I was in said they are still ppc. [06:01] packages still build [06:01] don't know if supported [06:01] asac: right, maybe the bugs pages has it wrong... [06:01] me neither. [06:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags [06:02] the apport page says need-ppc-retrace [06:02] I've looked at pages that have both, neither seems have a retrace with it [06:02] 12:00 < gnomefreak > pitti: is need-powerpc-retrtace down? [06:02] 12:00 < pitti > gnomefreak: yes [06:02] 12:01 < pitti > gnomefreak: it hanged in dpkg --unpack for godknowshowlong [06:02] 12:01 < gnomefreak > ah ok and that is right tag right? [06:02] 12:01 < pitti > gnomefreak: I stopped it and I rebuild it with the latest fixes as we speak [06:03] 12:01 < pitti > gnomefreak: need-ppc-retrace [06:03] 12:01 < gnomefreak > ah ok [06:03] 12:01 < pitti > gnomefreak: we just had the same discussion with seb128 in #u-desktop [06:03] looks like powerpc won the toss up [06:03] good [06:04] maybe someone should update BugSquad/Tags wiki then [06:04] wait a minute i might be reading that wrong [06:04] 12:02 < pitti > ok, then let me remove the 'transform dpkg --architecture powerpc to ppc' special case and use powerpc [06:04] lets try [06:04] does that mean its ppc with speicial case of powerpc? [06:04] we have two ppc bugs? [06:05] we can set independently? [06:05] we have a few atleast [06:05] doesnt matter its still down for a while [06:05] when did pitti tell that ? [06:05] whatelse did he say? [06:06] i think i should join ubuntu-desktop [06:06] we are talking in -devel [06:06] im not in -desktop [06:07] tag the powerpc [06:07] need-powerpc-retrace [06:09]