[12:27] <gnomefreak> not sure how i did that
[12:27] <gnomefreak> state yes importance yes but wtf is ubuntu-desktop-effects i cant figure out
[12:28] <gnomefreak> its possible since we cant see the google code it might have something in there to prevent it from using PSm but i doubt it
[12:29] <gnomefreak> what was bug number of the ubuntu-desktop-effects crap?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> that is my ubuntu.com email i might be using ubuntu.com for that team maybe
[12:31] <gnomefreak> the google toolbar one. reporter stated if he removes it it works fine (i would almost say reject it) but eh atleast set it to low.
[12:49] <gnomefreak> ok i think i like this, just have to get used to it
[12:57] <gnomefreak> asac: im not real sure bug 96683 is the forceful X shutdown. if it is than apport is slower than .69
[12:57] <ubotu> Malone bug 96683 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96683
[01:03] <gnomefreak>  bug 96288
[01:03] <ubotu> Malone bug 96288 in firefox "unexpected shutdown" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96288
[01:05] <gnomefreak> i dont think the crash report is the same as the bug :(
[01:37] <gnomefreak> asac: looks like you were correct about bug 96683 but you would have to review it
[01:37] <ubotu> Malone bug 96683 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96683
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> hello all
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> who is the person with a PPC machine
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Alexander S?
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> whomever it is, please see bug #95591
[08:34] <ubotu> Malone bug 95591 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed PPC" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/95591
[01:20] <gnomefreak> is it feisty?
[01:45] <asac> apparently hung in NEW
[01:46] <gnomefreak> asac: look at bug 58454 should that go to us or mozilla it team?
[01:46] <ubotu> Malone bug 58454 in mozilla-thunderbird "bad accel in .it localization" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/58454
[01:50] <asac> gnomefreak: probably .... if its a bug at all
[01:51] <asac> Ctrl-A works?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> dont know i dont use it locals
[01:52] <asac> mt-needtestcase then :)
[01:52] <asac> mt-needtester then :)
[01:52] <asac> :)
[01:52] <asac> sorry mistyped
[01:53] <gnomefreak> k
[01:54] <gnomefreak> reopened
[01:54] <gnomefreak> fx 2.0.0.3 is stuck in NEW?
[01:55] <asac> i think so
[01:55] <asac> firefox-libthai
[01:55] <asac> is new package shipped from source
[01:55] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhh
[01:55] <gnomefreak> thats not good
[01:55] <asac> at least it would explain it :)
[01:55] <gnomefreak> agreed
[01:55] <gnomefreak> did you ping archive admins to push it?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> dpkg is borked
[02:08] <asac> i pinged ... will do so again in a few minutes :
[02:08] <gnomefreak> i just filed bug on dpkg
[02:09] <gnomefreak> core util you would this it would work this close to release
[02:18] <asac> what?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> if you have dpkg fail during say upgrades than run sudo dpkg --configure -a it returns dpkg unknown -o
[02:25] <gnomefreak> bug 96939
[02:25] <ubotu> Malone bug 96939 in dpkg "dpkg in feisty doesnt work properly after dpkg fails on updates/installing apps." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96939
[02:34] <asac> gnomefreak: reproducible?
[02:36] <gnomefreak> it was told to me yesterday but i dismissed it as a screw up on user part but since it happened to me than i knoew it was dpkg
[02:36] <asac> bug 93502
[02:36] <ubotu> Malone bug 93502 in firefox "Default bookmarks link to invalid wiki frontpage address" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93502
[02:38] <gnomefreak> asac: its redirected
[02:39] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=show&redirect=FrontPage
[02:39] <gnomefreak> that i would say is fine for feisty but could be fixed for feisty+1 IMO
[02:42] <gnomefreak> maybe instead of redirect send it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home
[02:46] <asac> i send it to wiki.ubuntu.com directlry
[02:46] <asac> i send it to wiki.ubuntu.com directly
[02:46] <asac> now
[02:51] <gnomefreak> same page
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ill be back soon have to run to store
[02:52] <asac> k
[03:42] <asac> k we can dupe bug 91758 now that CoreDump.gz is broken
[03:42] <ubotu> Malone bug 91758 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed x86_64 [@gtk_style_realize] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91758
[03:42] <asac> i just wanted to use it to compare stacktrace from apport service with the one included in reporters one
[03:42] <asac> sad
[03:43] <asac> cool 2.0.0.3 is finally rolled-out
[03:43] <asac> https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu1
[03:50] <asac> i guess bug 72018 is indeed the "most duped bug" in launchpad :)
[03:50] <ubotu> Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018
[03:59] <hjmf> good, firefox 2.0.0.3 apt-get-ting right now :)
[04:00] <asac> great :)
[04:02] <hjmf> Firefox/2.0.0.3 (Ubuntu-feisty) :D
[04:03] <hjmf> ... now I'll have to modify a bit my retrace script to handle 2.0.0.2 vs 2.0.0.3 crashes
[04:04] <hjmf> hopefully there won't be too much 0.3 crashes
[04:05] <gnomefreak> hjmf: there will. .3 only fixed security items
[04:06] <hjmf> it was just a hope :)
[04:08] <gnomefreak> i guess i should check the 3 bugs he talked about :(
[04:08] <gnomefreak> bug 6215
[04:08] <ubotu> Malone bug 6215 in libranlip "libranlip: merge new debian version" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6215
[04:08] <gnomefreak> wtf is he talking about
[04:09] <gnomefreak> bug 16215
[04:09] <ubotu> Malone bug 16215 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Problem with USB2 storage devices, repeated kernel messages" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/16215
[04:09] <gnomefreak> doesnt make any sense at all
[04:09] <gnomefreak> bug 12385
[04:09] <ubotu> Malone bug 12385 in firefox "Left and right arrow keys do not work correctly when entering text into text boxes" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12385
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ok bug 96593 is in need of summary when you get time
[04:11] <ubotu> Malone bug 96593 in firefox "Firefox crashes on using <Alt>+left arrow" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96593
[04:27] <gnomefreak> asac: 2.0.0.3 hit servers :) ty
[04:30] <asac> yeah :)
[04:30] <asac> have fun ;)
[04:30] <asac> maybe performance problems should be improved
[04:34] <gnomefreak> it wouldnt happen to fix bug 72018?
[04:34] <ubotu> Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018
[04:34] <hjmf> gnomefreak: keep a copy of firefox-dbgsym_2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1_i386.ddeb before it gets rid of the servers
[04:47] <asac> anyone can do better than retracer on Bug 96960
[04:47] <gnomefreak> ill look asap
[04:47] <gnomefreak> bug 96960
[04:47] <asac> gnomefreak: i doesn't ... its because the patch I have might break other plugins I am not aware of
[04:47] <ubotu> Malone bug 96960 in firefox "firefox crash" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96960
[04:48] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[04:48] <asac> we need a good testing community to fix this on our own
[04:48] <gnomefreak> will ubuntu/mozilla allow us to patch it?
[04:48] <asac> for ubuntu ... i am the one to decide :)
[04:48] <asac> for mozilla ... they are pretty happy about us ... however, I guess they will not be happy unless we a) have tested this with all relevant plugins
[04:49] <gnomefreak> asac: on bug 96960 you wont get a better retrace. we have no -dbg -dbgsym for flashplugins
[04:49] <ubotu> Malone bug 96960 in firefox "firefox crash" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96960
[04:49] <asac> and b) we/they understand what is going on
[04:49] <gnomefreak> well we have users from over 100 bugs to test it :)
[04:49] <asac> however ... we are official beta tester for thai patch :) ... so maybe they would say, ok to the plugin patch
[04:49] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... but i know that it fixes the crash they have
[04:50] <asac> but i don't know if it crashes users that have previously not strikken by that bug
[04:50] <gnomefreak> ah good point
[04:50] <asac> anyway ... even if we don't get this in feisty ... we should definitly try to setup such a testing pool
[04:51] <gnomefreak> agreed
[04:51] <asac> would be a good start if everyone in mozillateam could add what plugins they use to the wiki
[04:51] <asac> so we know what can be tested within
[04:51] <asac> the team
[04:51] <asac> makes no sense to call for a big testing (e.g. in forums)
[04:51] <asac> if we haven't done basic QA before
[04:51] <asac> if things just break hard ... users might be distractd from testing for us in future again
[04:52] <asac> you use totem as well i guess
[04:52] <asac> :)
[04:52] <asac> so we already have three :)
[04:52] <asac> i use gnash
[04:52] <asac> four
[04:52] <asac> + totem
[04:52] <gnomefreak> agreed. keep it inside the team for a bit utill we can say its fairly safe
[04:52] <asac> yeah ... maybe we need to call for brave testers to join the team
[04:52] <gnomefreak> maybe set up a testing wiki?
[04:52] <asac> if we are not enough ... or brave enough :)
[04:53] <gnomefreak> i would needd to set up another edgy chroot before i can test it
[04:53] <asac> hmmm imo wiki pages won't bring users to us :)
[04:53] <asac> would be ok to check by following a testplan
[04:53] <gnomefreak> asac: no i mean for the plugins list you want
[04:53] <asac> ah
[04:53] <asac> sure
[04:53] <asac> definitly
[04:53] <asac> MOzillaTeam/QA
[04:53] <asac> or something
[04:54] <asac> i will add test-plans for testing security releases as well
[04:54] <gnomefreak> that sounds good to me.
[04:55] <gnomefreak> maybe something like "if you want to test mozilla products please see #ubuntu-mozillateam" this way we dont have people testing our products that just says it crashes screw this crap
[04:55] <asac> in a perfect world we would even test a good bunch of plugins for every upload
[04:55] <asac> yeah ... i think maybe a forum post like that would help
[04:55] <gnomefreak> im working on resetting up my planet blog stuff so i can blog about it
[04:56] <asac> "we want to extend our pre-release testing community" if you want to help and feel brave join us for instructions :)
[04:56] <gnomefreak> who do we get to do wiki? maybe add it to meeting agenda for next week?
[04:56] <asac> lets file a bug :)
[04:56] <asac> to track this ;)
[04:56] <gnomefreak> what do you mean?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> track this on LP?
[04:56] <asac> i mean ... my workflow is already pretty ad-hoc
[04:57] <asac> yeah :) ... maybe not so good idea :)
[04:57] <asac> however its more like ... i want to track todos somehow :)
[04:57] <asac> otherwise I will forget
[04:57] <asac> i forget everything if i get a bunch of work in my face
[04:58] <asac> and afterwards only the most important things come back alone :)
[04:58] <hjmf> though I'm not used to use plugins (I'm quite a boring web surfer), though in the retracing chroots I'm sure that I have installed all of them. So I'll be able to test as much as you might want from inside the chroots  :)
[04:58] <asac> hjmf: all?
[04:58] <asac> can you paste a list?
[04:58] <asac> at best directly to wiki :)
[04:58] <gnomefreak> that would be nice if we could set up a server for todos (Lp maybe) and that way team can add things and if someone does them they can pull it
[04:58] <asac> wait a second i set the basic page up
[04:59] <asac> gnomefreak: exactly
[04:59] <gnomefreak> hjmf: a list of your chroot plugins would be good for us retracers
[04:59] <asac> however ... don't think that firefox or any other product would be suitable
[04:59] <gnomefreak> no and not sure LP will let us track something like that
[05:00] <gnomefreak> ok i might lock up so please be patient
[05:01] <hjmf> just checked my feisty chroot and the list is quite long
[05:01] <asac> hjmf: thats good :)
[05:01] <gnomefreak> long is good :)
[05:02] <gnomefreak> i need to be shot
[05:02] <hjmf> mplayerplug-in, Helix DNA Plugin, Kaffeine Starter Plugin, and so on
[05:02] <gnomefreak> i was just thinking lets make a meta package for edgy-retraces (popular packages you will need to run retraces)
[05:03] <hjmf> all from ubuntu packages, but might test third party ones
[05:03] <hjmf> as well
[05:03] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA
[05:04] <asac> maybe add your list there ... i will reformat and you'll see how this works out :)
[05:04] <hjmf> OK give me a minute
[05:04] <asac> e.g. add a list of Extension-Name / package-name (if applicable) ... or how to download
[05:04] <asac> then we need a page to test each extension
[05:04] <asac> :)
[05:04] <asac> a simple url would help
[05:05] <asac> and some kind extra info: e.g. if you have mplayer + totem you need to uninstall totem to test mplayer
[05:11] <gnomefreak> does this mean anything to anyone? SIGSEGV_oldact ()
[05:15] <hjmf> Created a list of the ones that are loaded to firefox in my feisty chroot
[05:16] <hjmf> with the package that provides each
[05:18] <hjmf> bold chars added :)
[05:18] <hjmf> I'm very bad on wikis
[05:18] <hjmf> gonna review my edgy chroot
[05:19] <asac> hjmf: you can add a link that triggers each plugin?
[05:19] <asac> i have no idea about some of them
[05:19] <asac> movies i can do
[05:19] <asac> java too i guess
[05:19] <gnomefreak> cant figure out how to mount USB stick as root :(
[05:19] <hjmf> yes, I'll do (I have no idea of what are most of them)
[05:20] <asac> :)
[05:20] <asac> DNA plugin is the best
[05:21] <hjmf> Oh! on edgy I have some more 8)
[05:22] <asac> even better
[05:22] <asac> SIGSEGV_oldact ... guess its some kind of signal handler implementation
[05:22] <asac> where is it?
[05:23] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^^
[05:23] <gnomefreak> thats really all i get :(
[05:23] <gnomefreak> bug 81528
[05:23] <ubotu> Malone bug 81528 in firefox "iTunes (Apple) website crashes Firefox" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81528
[05:23] <asac> ah
[05:23] <gnomefreak> both peoples are the same
[05:23] <gnomefreak> i uploaded stack and thread of one of the users so far
[05:24] <asac> can we reproduce?
[05:25] <asac> e.g. if totem is on site ... its probably theme crash
[05:25] <asac> e.g. visit website ... change pages a few times
[05:25] <asac> change theme
[05:25] <asac> should crash
[05:25] <asac> visit website -> some page with media content on it
[05:25] <gnomefreak> i will try to reproduce
[05:25] <asac> crazy
[05:25] <asac> grand paradiso just crash visiting
[05:25] <asac> itunes
[05:26] <asac> oh
[05:26] <gnomefreak> i need to figure out how to mount USB stick first as root
[05:26] <asac> yeah
[05:26] <asac> crashes on visiting
[05:26] <asac> damn
[05:26] <asac> http://www.apple.com/itunes/
[05:27] <asac> crashes for you too?
[05:27] <asac> hjmf: gnomefreak ^^
[05:27] <hjmf> testing
[05:27] <asac> test with totem as well please
[05:28] <gnomefreak> testing
[05:28] <gnomefreak> i need .mov plugin for totem any ideas?
[05:28] <asac> so it doesn't crash?
[05:29] <asac> i need it as well but it crashes
[05:29] <gnomefreak> just opening doesnt crash it in .0.0.3
[05:29] <gnomefreak> mplayer should play it but totem would be better to test with. this is feisty i will try with edgy in a minute
[05:30] <asac> ok i have a self-patched totem ... lets see whathappens if i downgrade
[05:30] <gnomefreak> theme crash in feisty
[05:31] <gnomefreak> changed theme and poof
[05:31] <asac> ok ... thats a different thing :)
[05:31] <asac> of course a valid crash ... but nothing new :)
[05:31] <asac> but you could play?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> nope
[05:32] <hjmf> doesn't crash ; but I couldn't play directly
[05:32] <hjmf> I had to open totem url to view it
[05:32] <gnomefreak> it shows up if you reload page than if you click replay it will go black
[05:32] <asac> ok crash was due to borked totem here
[05:32] <gnomefreak> i didnt get anything in crash report
[05:32] <asac> gnomefreak: yes ... those are standard symptoms of gtk_style_realize
[05:33] <asac> gnomefreak: try reproduce with
[05:33] <gnomefreak> we need a testcase on it to be honest
[05:33] <asac> firefox -g
[05:33] <asac> run
[05:33] <gnomefreak> feisty?
[05:33] <asac> just manual debugging
[05:33] <asac> if you doubt that its gtk_style_realize of course :)
[05:34] <hjmf> I cant get a direct play on the page
[05:35] <gnomefreak> firefox-dbg was not installed :(
[05:35] <gnomefreak> hjmf: its .mov you wont its a highly restricted format
[05:35] <gnomefreak> w32codecs might and mplayer might
[05:36] <gnomefreak> give me some time installing -dbg and it takes forever
[05:36] <hjmf> but I can play it with totem
[05:36] <asac> me too ... lets test totem-xine
[05:36] <hjmf> it's the totem plugin what doesnt work
[05:37] <hjmf> gonna check in edgy
[05:37] <asac> i am on edgy
[05:37] <asac> plays with totem-gstreamer
[05:37] <asac> and with totem-xine as well
[05:38] <hjmf> on edgy it plays
[05:38] <hjmf> ... directly on the page
[05:39] <asac> gnomefreak: i get no theme crash here
[05:39] <asac> on edgy
[05:39] <gnomefreak> i do on feisty
[05:39] <asac> but wait :) ... maybe my ffox is patched :)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> will get you bt
[05:39] <asac> yes please
[05:40] <asac> what setup? totem-xine? or totem-gstreamer?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> xine
[05:43] <asac> so you got a bt ?
[05:43] <gnomefreak> im still downloading -dbg
[05:43] <gnomefreak> for 2.0.0.3
[05:43] <gnomefreak> it didnt update it because -dbgsym had to be removed to upgrade and -dbgsym took place of -dbg
[05:44] <asac> ah 2.0.0.3 has new feature: "Help -> Report a bug..."
[05:44] <gnomefreak> IMHO a shitty set up on that with -dbgsym taking place of -dbg but hindering upgrades
[05:44] <asac> does it work for you?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> dont know yet
[05:44] <asac> :)
[05:44] <asac> ok
[05:44] <gnomefreak> system>report a problem does :)
[05:45] <gnomefreak> yes apport starts up
[05:45] <asac> good
[05:45] <gnomefreak> it loading bug report page for LP
[05:45] <asac> yes
[05:45] <asac> thats fine
[05:45] <asac> we should get additional info attached about setup then
[05:45] <asac> i think we should definitly try to get apport hooks into feisty
[05:46] <asac> still don't know the state
[05:46] <asac> dfarning has disappeared :)
[05:46] <gnomefreak> last time i saw him he was approved membership
[05:48] <gnomefreak> i feel like a stupid ass :(
[05:48] <gnomefreak> there has to be a way to mount this POS as root so i can change permissions
[05:49] <asac> POS?
[05:49] <hjmf> ... list of 13 plugins wrote at MozillaTeam/QA
[05:49] <asac> good
[05:50] <asac> we have testpages for them?
[05:50] <hjmf> ... meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA
[05:50] <hjmf> I just have to figure out some links and done
[05:50] <gnomefreak> POS ==  piece of shit
[05:51] <asac> ah
[05:51] <asac> :)
[05:51] <asac> yeah shit is not mountable in a decent fashion
[05:52] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:52] <gnomefreak> i can only mount it as read only
[05:52] <gnomefreak> i need to mount it read and write
[05:52] <asac> what fs?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> not sure
[05:52] <asac> what does mount say?
[05:52] <asac> e.g. mount
[05:52] <gnomefreak> alot
[05:52] <asac> in cmdline
[05:53] <gnomefreak> ill pastebin it
[05:53] <asac> na ... just the line for that mount :)
[05:53] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.ca/412219
[05:54] <gnomefreak> not sure i had it mounted at that time hold on a sec
[05:54] <gnomefreak> /dev/sdd1 on /media/LEXAR type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077)
[05:55] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[05:55] <gnomefreak> still not mounted as root
[05:55] <asac> as uid=1000 obviously
[05:55] <asac> why would you want to mound as root?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> so i can delete things from it
[05:56] <gnomefreak> and move things from it to ~/
[05:56] <asac> ls -la /media/LEXAR/
[05:56] <asac> ?
[05:56] <asac> e.g. what permissions/owners
[05:56] <asac> you mount it as uid 1000 ... so user with that id should be able to write
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> that would be the first user ever created
[05:57] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.ca/412225
[05:57] <gnomefreak> a bunch see link
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl, have to rest
[05:57] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: bye
[05:57] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak == only users created
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: btw, you have a PPC machine for retracing
[05:57] <asac> no ... we just have
[05:58] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: just tag it
[05:58] <asac> need-ppc-retrace
[05:58] <asac> before that i could log in and do it manually
[05:58] <gnomefreak> use that tag :)
[05:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i have, been waiting for them to come through
[05:58] <asac> but i cannot tweak the procedure, so now need-ppc-retrace is the only thing we havbe
[05:58] <asac> yeah ... probably some hick-ups
[05:58] <Admiral_Chicago> doesn't seem like there will be heavy development in that area
[05:58] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: i think the ppc retracer part died i was gonna ping pitti when i got time
[05:59] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: there is devleopment going on ... I guess pitti will not stop until it works
[05:59] <asac> of course obviously he cannot dedicate 100% of this time for this
[05:59] <asac> or do you mean ppc?
[05:59] <asac> ppc will be dropped at some point afaik
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ok i can move things from one to another but still cant delete items from stick
[06:00] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: take your time. there seems to be a discrepency, one wiki page says need-ppc-retrace, the other says need-powerpc-retrace
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ppc is still in feisty?
[06:00] <gnomefreak> its powerpc afaik but i will ping him or daniel
[06:00] <Admiral_Chicago> there are packages for PPC afaik
[06:00] <asac> really?
[06:00] <asac> on ubuntu-devel maillist pitti told need-ppc-retrace
[06:01] <asac> but maybe this has changed now :)
[06:01] <Admiral_Chicago> yea, one of the channel I was in said they are still ppc.
[06:01] <asac> packages still build
[06:01] <asac> don't know if supported
[06:01] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: right, maybe the bugs pages has it wrong...
[06:01] <Admiral_Chicago> me neither.
[06:01] <Admiral_Chicago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags
[06:02] <Admiral_Chicago> the apport page says need-ppc-retrace
[06:02] <Admiral_Chicago> I've looked at pages that have both, neither seems have a retrace with it
[06:02] <gnomefreak> 12:00 <      gnomefreak > pitti: is need-powerpc-retrtace down?
[06:02] <gnomefreak> 12:00 <           pitti > gnomefreak: yes
[06:02] <gnomefreak> 12:01 <           pitti > gnomefreak: it hanged in dpkg --unpack for  godknowshowlong
[06:02] <gnomefreak> 12:01 <      gnomefreak > ah ok and that is right tag right?
[06:02] <gnomefreak> 12:01 <           pitti > gnomefreak: I stopped it and I rebuild it with the  latest fixes as we speak
[06:03] <gnomefreak> 12:01 <           pitti > gnomefreak: need-ppc-retrace
[06:03] <gnomefreak> 12:01 <      gnomefreak > ah ok
[06:03] <gnomefreak> 12:01 <           pitti > gnomefreak: we just had the same discussion with  seb128 in #u-desktop
[06:03] <gnomefreak> looks like powerpc won the toss up
[06:03] <asac> good
[06:04] <asac> maybe someone should update BugSquad/Tags wiki then
[06:04] <gnomefreak> wait a minute i might be reading that wrong
[06:04] <gnomefreak> 12:02 <           pitti > ok, then let me remove the 'transform dpkg  --architecture powerpc to ppc' special case and use  powerpc
[06:04] <asac> lets try
[06:04] <gnomefreak> does that mean its ppc with speicial case of powerpc?
[06:04] <asac> we have two ppc bugs?
[06:05] <asac> we can set independently?
[06:05] <gnomefreak> we have a few atleast
[06:05] <gnomefreak> doesnt matter its still down for a while
[06:05] <asac> when did pitti tell that ?
[06:05] <asac> whatelse did he say?
[06:06] <asac> i think i should join ubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <gnomefreak> we are talking in -devel
[06:06] <gnomefreak> im not in -desktop
[06:07] <gnomefreak> tag the powerpc
[06:07] <gnomefreak> need-powerpc-retrace
[06:09] <gnomefreak> ok lets see if i get a backtrace
[06:09] <asac> have you tried?
[06:09] <asac> should be easy to find
[06:09] <gnomefreak> did you look at the permissions link above? it seems i can do anything but remove/delete them from usb
[06:09] <gnomefreak> asac: retracer is down
[06:10] <asac> still?
[06:10] <asac> hmm
[06:10] <gnomefreak> afaik
[06:10] <asac> but setting tags won't hurt i guess
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> so we are using need-powerpc-retrace ?
[06:10] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[06:10] <hjmf> back again
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> is there a ppc case? is that special or does that just link to ppc?
[06:10] <hjmf> <asac wrote>  we have testpages for them?
[06:10] <hjmf> about the plugins wiki page, what do you meant?
[06:11] <hjmf> a wiki page for each one?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> you have got to be kidding me :(
[06:13] <gnomefreak> again fails to crash with firefox -g
[06:13] <gnomefreak> wtf
[06:17] <gnomefreak> trying in edgy
[06:18] <gnomefreak> its back up
[06:18] <gnomefreak> retracer for macs are up :)
[06:28] <asac> gnomefreak: can you still reproduce itunes crash at all?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> yes in feisty just not using gdb :( im working on edgy atm
[06:32] <hjmf> asac: tell me if you want me to do something else on page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA
[06:32] <asac> yes wait a sec
[06:33] <asac> yeah .... i ment links to sites where you can test that plugin
[06:33] <asac> e.g. content is on that site :)
[06:33] <asac> otherwise looks fine
[06:34] <hjmf> I guess I don't understand, give me an example.
[06:34] <asac> yeah :)
[06:34] <hjmf> ie a new wiki page for each plugin
[06:34] <hjmf> maybe
[06:34] <asac> no
[06:34] <hjmf> k
[06:34] <asac> for now it would be enough if we have
[06:34] <asac> one link to a page that has content that triggers a plugin
[06:35] <asac> e.g. http://www.apple.com/itunes
[06:35] <asac> for movies
[06:35] <asac> :)
[06:35] <hjmf> ah ok
[06:35] <asac> so you can just click on that page
[06:35] <asac> and the plugin gets started
[06:35] <asac> i will weave some general things around that ... e.g. how to visit that site, what to do (e.g. reload) etc.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> i cant get it to crash at all in gdb i will try without it and see what trace i get.
[06:37] <asac> hmmm heisenbug ... goes away if you try to look :)
[06:37] <asac> but please verify
[06:37] <asac> i couldn't get theme crash here
[06:37] <asac> on edgy of course
[06:37] <asac> latest (not-yet pushed) security update
[06:37] <asac> 2.0.0.3 ... so should be more or less the same then feisty
[06:37] <hjmf> asac:  something like the entry on Totem 2.18.0 plugin
[06:38] <hjmf> ?
[06:38] <asac> yeah
[06:38] <asac> for now just one url would be enough
[06:39] <hjmf> ok
[06:40] <gnomefreak> with edgy i can play the .mov its using vlc and not crashing with theme change or not
[06:41] <hjmf> I'll be filling that page as I get those links (maybe from reporters feed back)
[06:42] <gnomefreak> cant crash it now in feisty maybe it was just dumb luck
[06:45] <asac> hjmf: cool
[07:15] <hjmf> asac: http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_atomic/28weekslater/medium.html plays rightly
[07:16] <hjmf> totem plugin
[07:17] <asac> yes it does
[07:17] <asac> why?
[07:25] <hjmf> no idea, it's the same kind of format .mov and the same site
[07:26] <hjmf> tested because of bug 97045
[07:26] <ubotu> Malone bug 97045 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in vfprintf()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97045
[07:29] <asac> what time is it at pacific right now?
[07:29] <asac> @time
[07:29] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: March 27 2007, 17:29:07 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 2 hours 30 minutes
[07:29] <asac> :)
[07:29] <asac> @time PST
[07:29] <asac> @time Pacifi
[07:29] <asac> @time Pacific
[07:29] <ubotu> Current time in Canada/Pacific: March 27 2007, 09:29:17 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 2 hours 30 minutes
[07:30] <asac> @time Eastern
[07:30] <ubotu> Current time in Canada/Eastern: March 27 2007, 13:30:37 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 2 hours 29 minutes
[07:30] <asac> @time berlin
[07:30] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: March 27 2007, 19:30:51 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 2 hours 29 minutes
[07:30] <asac> works
[07:32] <asac> btw, why was ubugtu renamed?
[07:32] <asac> ubotu: ?
[07:32] <asac> oh probably ubugtu was for bugs only ... which ubotu took over as well
[07:34] <hjmf> really curious, now I can see any video in apple.com
[07:34] <hjmf> I promise that I haven't touch anything
[07:34] <hjmf> ... and it's the same session
[07:35] <asac> yeah totem hangs from time to time
[07:36] <asac> might as well not work after reload
[07:36] <asac> usually it works on first try
[07:36] <asac> but have seen that it didn't
[07:36] <asac> as well
[07:36] <hjmf> just surprised me :)
[07:37] <asac> imo its a dbus thing
[07:37] <asac> e.g. totem forks out the player to a new process
[07:37] <asac> and sends commands to that process through dbus
[07:37] <asac> which no other plugin does
[07:37] <asac> i have the feeling that fails or take some time to find the process ... and things fail completely
[07:38] <hjmf> /usr/lib/totem/totem-plugin-viewer --plugin-type narrowspace --user-agent Mozilla/....
[07:39] <hjmf> ps output when works
[07:39] <asac> yes .... those processes keeep hanging around
[07:39] <asac> you see more than one of those?
[07:40] <asac> http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/
[07:40] <asac> if you switch between movies on that page
[07:40] <asac> you see what i mean
[07:40] <asac> /usr/lib/totem/totem-plugin-viewer are not properly killed
[07:41] <hjmf> just one, but now doesn't play though it is reporter on ps
[07:41] <asac> hmm
[07:42] <asac> yes .... probably its the old process
[07:42] <hjmf> nope, now two as you said
[07:42] <asac> maybe try observe
[07:42] <hjmf> one plays right and the other is in black
[07:42] <asac> you try multiple at once?
[07:42] <asac> or just by switching?
[07:42] <hjmf> yes, it's as you said, one for each play
[07:43] <hjmf> one ps process for each play
[07:43] <asac> good ... but on the other page they don't accumulate like that?
[07:43] <asac> e.g. by pressing reload?
[07:43] <hjmf> I'll try again
[07:44] <hjmf> on a reload the same process still as it was
[07:45] <asac> same process id?
[07:45] <asac> but works?
[07:45] <hjmf> nope, my fault, it gets another pid
[07:45] <asac> ok
[07:45] <asac> but fails?
[07:45] <asac> or works?
[07:45] <asac> anything special if it fails?
[07:45] <hjmf> works on most of them
[07:46] <hjmf> fails on some
[07:46] <hjmf> but nothing special
[07:46] <hjmf> just don't play
[07:46] <asac> and process is there with new pid?
[07:46] <hjmf> the process is called
[07:46] <hjmf> and gets *older* as if it were playing
[07:47] <hjmf> were/was
[07:47] <asac> hmm ... so two different bugs ... doesn't play + doesn't get killed
[07:47] <asac> i think we get restyle bug if it doesn't get killed
[07:47] <hjmf> no it gets killed if I close the page, maybe I didn't explain right
[07:48] <asac> yes ... i think i understood
[07:48] <asac> its properly killed for your initial page
[07:48] <asac> while its not for apple .../ads
[07:48] <hjmf> yes
[07:48] <asac> if you just visit initial page it shouldn't crash on retheme
[07:48] <asac> while it does on /ads
[07:51] <hjmf> I'm trying to force a crash to see what happens, but I'm unable :)
[08:02] <hjmf> asac: first 2.0.0.3 crash bug 97074 Taking to retrace
[08:02] <ubotu> Malone bug 97074 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97074
[08:06] <asac> hjmf: lets see :)
[08:09] <asac> hjmf: probably its crash on instant X shutdown
[08:09] <asac> as usualy
[08:09] <asac> or?
[08:09] <asac> hmm
[08:11] <hjmf> already retraced, but I'm gonna do some tests before uploading the retrace
[08:12] <asac> bad retrace?
[08:12] <hjmf> libnss3-dbgsym libnspr4-dbgsym are in your repo or in pitti's
[08:12] <hjmf> ?
[08:12] <hjmf> some unresolved symbols
[08:20] <asac> no
[08:20] <asac> not yet generated
[08:20] <asac> you know howto create on your own?
[08:21] <hjmf> no, but I've located pitti's ones
[08:21] <asac> ah ok
[08:21] <hjmf> though I have to force them
[08:21] <hjmf> because of version complaint
[08:23] <hjmf> asac: is there a link to learn howto create dbgsym packages?
[08:25] <hjmf> not a good retrace, http://librarian.launchpad.net/6998668/%3Cfdopen%3E
[08:46] <asac> its simple
[08:46] <asac> install pkg-create-dbgsym
[08:46] <asac> then build ffox like
[08:46] <asac> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noopt dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[08:46] <asac> this will produce dbgsym automagically
[08:49] <asac> crash on instant  X shutdown is tackled in firefox 3
[08:49] <asac> OSPI-006a
[08:50] <asac> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pI03pN79HP0uaNF4AzdeYTw
[08:50] <asac> though "At risk"
[08:55] <hjmf> thank you
[08:56] <hjmf> I understand that it might work as well for other packages, right?
[09:04] <asac> fo rall that support
[09:04] <asac> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noopt
[09:04] <asac> e.g thunderbird is still buggy
[09:04] <asac> in this regards
[09:07] <hjmf> k, I will try to build something just to learn when I'll have some time
[09:07] <hjmf> :)
[09:16] <hjmf> on bug 97088 reporter claims "while the automatic bug report was finishing it opened a browser with a invalid url" and attach this screenshot
[09:16] <ubotu> Malone bug 97088 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed [@js_FinalizeStringRT] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97088
[09:16] <hjmf> http://librarian.launchpad.net/6998873/bug_firefox_ubuntu.png
[09:22] <hjmf> Two bugs reported from 0.3, both have the same cause and the same retraced stacktrace. But what bothers me both have a bunch of unretraced symbols
[09:23] <hjmf> maybe because what caused them
[09:23] <hjmf> dunno (of course) :)
[09:24] <hjmf> bugs are: bug 97089 and bug 97074
[09:24] <ubotu> Malone bug 97089 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97089
[09:24] <ubotu> Malone bug 97074 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97074
[09:24] <hjmf> hopefully is not a problem on 0.3 retraces
[09:25] <asac> hmm
[09:31] <asac> hjmf: where did you get the png from?
[09:31] <hjmf> asac: bug 97088
[09:31] <ubotu> Malone bug 97088 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed [@js_FinalizeStringRT] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97088
[09:32] <asac> looks like about a wrong url bug?
[09:32] <asac> not a crash
[09:32] <asac> ah ok ... the url thing is known
[09:32] <asac> so nevermind
[09:34] <asac> bug 97089 is colorzilla
[09:34] <ubotu> Malone bug 97089 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97089
[09:35] <asac> #26 0xb7e95d96 in nsNativeComponentLoader::SelfRegisterDll (this=0x808a7e0, dll=0x818fda8,
[09:35] <asac>     registryLocation=0x83f3048 "abs:/home/gerrit/.mozilla/firefox/j7ch377q.default/extensions/{6AC85730-7D0F-4de0-B3FA-21142DD85326}/components/ColorZilla.dll", deferred=0) at nsNativeComponentLoader.cpp:421
[09:36] <asac> 	res2 = <value optimized out>
[09:36] <asac> 	res = 0
[09:36] <asac> 	serviceMgr = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x808a3b4}, <No data fields>}
[09:36] <asac> 	fs = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x81900e8}, <No data fields>}
[09:36] <asac> 	mobj = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x818fd58}, <No data fields>}
[09:36] <asac> #27 0xb7e96c7a in nsNativeComponentLoader::AutoRegisterComponent (this=0x808a7e0, when=0, component=0x81900e8, registered=0xbfea4268)
[09:36] <asac> same for bug 97074
[09:36] <ubotu> Malone bug 97074 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97074
[09:37] <asac> bug 97088 is most likely dupe: "crash on instant X shutdown"
[09:37] <ubotu> Malone bug 97088 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed [@js_FinalizeStringRT] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97088
[09:37] <asac> so all old dups :)
[09:38] <asac> no regression ;)
[09:38] <asac> fine
[09:44] <gnomefreak> asac: how do we handle enigmail?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> security releases
[09:44] <gnomefreak> 06/03/2007 Important Security fix for Enigmail. A security bug detected by Core Security Technologies has been fixed in Enigmail v0.94.3.
[09:45] <gnomefreak> the date kind of bothers me
[09:46] <gnomefreak> since enigmail is built with TB is why i ask how we handle that
[09:47] <gnomefreak> bug 97011
[09:47] <ubotu> Malone bug 97011 in enigmail "Security fix in 0.94.3" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97011
[09:56] <hjmf> then both collorzilla crashes? the unretraced stuff comes from that plugin? then marking as dups of colorzilla master :)
[09:58] <asac> probably :)
[09:59] <hjmf> checked, are the same retrace that the one on bug 85382
[09:59] <ubotu> Malone bug 85382 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed - colorzilla - [@nsNativeComponentLoader::AutoRegisterComponent] " [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85382
[10:15] <hjmf> good night lads
[10:18] <asac> gnomefreak: that one does not apply
[10:19] <gnomefreak> ok
[10:19] <asac> but since security press is confusing we should nevertheless update it for feisty
[10:19] <gnomefreak> reject it due to?
[10:19] <asac> it was fixed in gnupg update
[10:19] <asac> not an enigmail bug ... but gnupg ... and latest gnupg ships the fix
[10:19] <asac> enigmail just contains workaround in case gnupg is not fixed
[10:19] <asac> as well as som UI improvements for new gnupg error messages due to this problem
[10:22] <gnomefreak> ok will comment
[10:25] <gnomefreak> is LP down?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> ok screw it ill comment later on it Lp is down atm
[10:31] <asac> k
[10:31] <asac> bug 12
[10:31] <asac> looks like down
[10:31] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:32] <gnomefreak> the guy that was checking it just got kicked off line or closed irc
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ill be back later ;)
[10:34] <asac> people just don't understand
[10:34] <asac> > I am having the same problem. Happens both with Firefox and Opera.
[10:34] <asac> > -- Firefox crash https://launchpad.net/bugs/24728
[10:34] <asac> Please file a  seperate bug and attach the full crash report. This bug
[10:34] <asac> has enough crashreports that are not the same as one another.
[10:34] <asac> so what does he do?
[10:34] <asac> simple
[10:35] <asac> Here is my crash report if it helps any.
[10:35] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:35] <asac> ** Attachment added: "Crash Report"
[10:35] <asac>    http://librarian.launchpad.net/6999272/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash
[10:35] <asac> --
[10:35] <asac> Firefox crash
[10:35] <gnomefreak> moron
[10:35] <asac> https://launchpad.net/bugs/24728
[10:35] <asac> i think you should use please file a new bug
[10:35] <gnomefreak> asac: if you remind me ill file a bug for him
[10:35] <asac> instead of separate
[10:35] <asac> use new
[10:35] <asac> more simple
[10:35] <asac> na ... forget it
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ok
[10:35] <asac> people that file against 24728
[10:35] <asac> are not worth to be taken care of
[10:36] <asac> we did this already for those who initially did
[10:36] <asac> now its just too late
[10:36] <gnomefreak> true
[10:36] <asac> some just have to sink
[10:37] <asac> so what is that bug about?
[10:37] <asac> it has not master et al
[10:37] <asac> i think we should just reject it
[10:37] <asac> this is a sinking bug :)
[11:02] <asac> MOST WANTED TESTCASE: IA__gtk_style_apply_default_background
[11:37] <gnomefreak> do we have a stable testcase for that crash?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> there fixed
[11:47] <asac> what?
[11:47] <asac> how can it be MOST WANTED if we have it :)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> oh testcase i though you said tester :(
[11:49] <gnomefreak> sorry been a long day
[11:55] <gnomefreak> if anyone needs anything ping me ill get back to you asap
[11:57] <asac> sure
[11:57] <asac> night!
[11:59] <gnomefreak> night