| Burgwork | ivoks: probably because nobody has filed an MIR | 12:14 |
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| Burgwork | I took a look at its security record | 12:14 |
| Burgwork | doesn't look too scary, for a php app | 12:14 |
| ivoks | :)) | 12:14 |
| Burgwork | I need to do an MIR for asterisk at some point as well, so I will do zabbix | 12:14 |
| ivoks | that would be great addition for next LTS | 12:15 |
| Burgwork | the latest asterisk also supports snmp | 12:16 |
| Burgwork | pretty much all options for running asterisk right now suck, because of lack of security support | 12:18 |
| Burgwork | and given asterisk has a history of remote DoS issues... | 12:18 |
| ivoks | i didn't spend too much time with asterisk | 12:20 |
| ivoks | tried, worked, left it :) | 12:20 |
| ivoks | i would probably work with it, but i've left that company :D | 12:20 |
| Burgwork | we have an ancient 1.x cvs version of asterisk some consultant setup for us | 12:21 |
| Burgwork | running on White Box EL 3 | 12:21 |
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| theacolyte | I'd rather hand configure MIB/OID/SNMP than deal with it | 12:53 |
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| firecrotch | Hi everyone, I'm wondering if you could direct me to a guide to optimizing the services on my server | 03:08 |
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| [miles] | morning guys | 09:53 |
| [miles] | anyone awake? | 09:53 |
| lionel | morning [miles] | 09:55 |
| [miles] | bonjour lionel | 09:55 |
| [miles] | ;) | 09:55 |
| lionel | :) | 09:55 |
| [miles] | lionel: dude, I'm currently manually updating our 6.06 LTS servers... | 09:55 |
| lionel | hehe. security updates ? | 09:55 |
| [miles] | lionel: When I was using SLES, I could automatically configure it to update | 09:56 |
| [miles] | lionel: in ubuntu, is there a particlar package to help do this, or is it just cron-tastic :) | 09:56 |
| lionel | what do you mean by automatically ? | 09:56 |
| [miles] | well, auto-update | 09:57 |
| [miles] | it would download and install all updates (SLES) | 09:57 |
| ivoks | yes | 09:57 |
| lionel | there is a unattended-upgrades package | 09:57 |
| [miles] | ah | 09:57 |
| [miles] | ok nice | 09:57 |
| ivoks | i'm not sure this is smart thing to do :) | 09:57 |
| [miles] | ah ok | 09:57 |
| lionel | I would not do it also :) | 09:57 |
| [miles] | maybe a cron notifiying me of availble updates would be better | 09:57 |
| [miles] | I was amazed last night... in 7 years working with linux, I have never seen any reference to "dialog" in bash scripting... then, I happend to download an ebook on linux programming, and low and behold, it's showing how to create ncurses menus in bash using dialog... | 09:59 |
| [miles] | saves having to code them in C | 09:59 |
| ivoks | you can do it with cron | 09:59 |
| ivoks | but you would have to create your own script | 10:00 |
| [miles] | aye | 10:00 |
| [miles] | thats fine, I don't mind doing that... | 10:00 |
| ivoks | there is /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades.log | 10:00 |
| lionel | cron-apt could do it | 10:00 |
| ivoks | so you could parse it | 10:00 |
| ivoks | or that, right :) | 10:00 |
| [miles] | ivoks: you class that package as unstable? | 10:00 |
| lionel | it downloads and send a mail saying updates are available | 10:00 |
| ivoks | [miles] : unattended-upgrades? | 10:00 |
| [miles] | nod | 10:00 |
| ivoks | [miles] : no; it's great package; the idea iss unstable :) | 10:01 |
| [miles] | jaja | 10:01 |
| [miles] | :) | 10:01 |
| ivoks | default behaviour of this package is to download only | 10:01 |
| [miles] | ah ok | 10:01 |
| [miles] | I must stream-line a few things here, there is too many UBS's now | 10:02 |
| [miles] | like apt-proxy or what ever its called | 10:02 |
| ivoks | lionel: feisty's version has "Unattended-Upgrade::Mail" mail notification | 10:03 |
| lionel | Oh cool | 10:03 |
| lionel | thanks for the info | 10:03 |
| [miles] | can someone gimme a clue as to how / where I configure this unattended-upgrades please? | 10:03 |
| ivoks | [miles] : /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades" | 10:04 |
| ivoks | without last " | 10:04 |
| [miles] | thanks | 10:04 |
| [miles] | ahhh heres another q4u all | 10:04 |
| [miles] | I use Prozilla as a download manager... as it's fast multi-part downloader | 10:04 |
| [miles] | can I configure apt to use it in anyway? | 10:05 |
| [miles] | I guess apt uses wget no? | 10:05 |
| ivoks | well, you can allways do --print-uris | 10:08 |
| ivoks | and then feed your prozilla with urls :) | 10:08 |
| [miles] | :) | 10:09 |
| [miles] | ivoks: I can't find any info on what options I can feed this autoupdater | 10:09 |
| ivoks | sure you can | 10:10 |
| ivoks | less /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade :) | 10:10 |
| [miles] | :O | 10:11 |
| === [miles] see's snakes | ||
| [miles] | fuck, I need coffee... time to hit a bar | 10:15 |
| [miles] | bbiab guys | 10:15 |
| [miles] | thanks for the info btw | 10:15 |
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| gawdzilla | Is there an ircd webadmin type tool like admirc ? | 10:21 |
| gawdzilla | hopefully for ircd-hybrid | 10:23 |
| gawdzilla | Is there an ircd webadmin type tool like admirc ? | 10:37 |
| [miles] | gawdzilla: I don't know of one | 10:44 |
| [miles] | gawdzilla: you hit sourceforge? | 10:44 |
| gawdzilla | yup | 10:44 |
| gawdzilla | and anope forums | 10:44 |
| [miles] | gawdzilla: one second... you want an admin interface to control an irc server? correct? | 10:45 |
| gawdzilla | yup | 10:46 |
| [miles] | right, gimme a min | 10:46 |
| gawdzilla | nickserv chanserv and so on | 10:46 |
| [miles] | I'm just asking in another channel | 10:46 |
| gawdzilla | bot maintenaince would be nice but I'd settle for minimalistic service control | 10:47 |
| gawdzilla | thanks | 10:47 |
| [miles] | sorry, the guys I thought might know... don't | 10:50 |
| [miles] | gawdzilla: ask in #freenode ? | 10:50 |
| [miles] | gawdzilla: surely someone there will know.... | 10:51 |
| gawdzilla | OK, thanks for the suggestions | 10:51 |
| [miles] | gawdzilla: it's the only thing I can personally think of... asking there | 10:51 |
| [miles] | gawdzilla: does it have to be irc server? | 10:51 |
| [miles] | gawdzilla: jabber servers are cool | 10:51 |
| gawdzilla | Yes since I'm already running it | 10:52 |
| gawdzilla | tho later a migration to jabber with an irc bridge could be interesting | 10:52 |
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| [miles] | gawdzilla: I personally install jabber servers normally | 10:54 |
| gawdzilla | yes they have many interesting interfaces toother protocols | 10:55 |
| [miles] | nod | 10:56 |
| [miles] | lionel: still there? | 11:02 |
| lionel | [miles] : yep | 11:03 |
| [miles] | lionel: do you happen to know, the next LTS release? | 11:03 |
| lionel | no | 11:03 |
| [miles] | lionel: with 5 year support on server. | 11:03 |
| [miles] | lionel: ah ok | 11:03 |
| lionel | it is not planned obviously | 11:03 |
| lionel | I heard some times ago that it would be every two years | 11:03 |
| [miles] | ok | 11:04 |
| lionel | so feisty+2 may be a LTS... | 11:04 |
| lionel | feisty will not be and feisty+1 will probabily not be | 11:04 |
| [miles] | k | 11:05 |
| [miles] | lionel: you work for Canonical? | 11:05 |
| lionel | no :) | 11:06 |
| [miles] | :) | 11:06 |
| [miles] | contributor? | 11:06 |
| lionel | yep, only contributor | 11:07 |
| lionel | (small contributor ;)) | 11:07 |
| [miles] | jeje | 11:08 |
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| davekempe | was someone here asking about securing PHP apps for shared hosting? | 02:07 |
| shawarma | davekempe: There was some talk about in on the mailing list. Maybe here, too. | 02:15 |
| davekempe | yeah i cbfed posting to mailing list, but was going to suggest apparmour | 02:15 |
| davekempe | need to test it some more, but it should be in fiesty | 02:15 |
| shawarma | cbfed? | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | "can't be bothered" :) | 02:16 |
| davekempe | :) | 02:16 |
| shawarma | huh? | 02:16 |
| shawarma | That becomes "cbfed" how? | 02:17 |
| davekempe | lol | 02:17 |
| ajmitch | replaced bothered with another word | 02:17 |
| shawarma | fish? finger? fenestrate? | 02:18 |
| shawarma | fantasise? | 02:18 |
| ajmitch | fish | 02:18 |
| shawarma | Oh, good. | 02:18 |
| shawarma | Then I get it. | 02:18 |
| shawarma | :-p | 02:19 |
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| davekempe | anyway. what do you guys think of apparmour? | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | not a huge fan, though I can see a few people using it | 02:21 |
| davekempe | why not a fan? | 02:22 |
| ajmitch | path-based MAC, weak & messy | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | labelling is more complex, causes more complex policy, but is more complete in that regard | 02:23 |
| davekempe | all security is compromise | 02:28 |
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| theacolyte | join #cacti | 07:04 |
| theacolyte | ! | 07:04 |
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| jjesse | is there a feisty download for ubuntu server x86? | 08:57 |
| jjesse | i see a daily for amd64 and also sparc but no x86 | 08:57 |
| fabbione | jjesse: if you are looking for daily build, there was a bug on our cdimage publisher.. so today image might not be there | 09:00 |
| fabbione | otherwise just download Beta release and dist upgrade | 09:00 |
| jjesse | fabbione: is that from cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/ ? | 09:01 |
| fabbione | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ <- those are daily build | 09:02 |
| fabbione | and i386 is missing | 09:02 |
| fabbione | http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ <- beta release | 09:02 |
| jjesse | ah sorry | 09:02 |
| jjesse | silly me | 09:02 |
| fabbione | no problem | 09:02 |
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| theacolyte | ooo, reading the instructions on upgrading to 7.04 -- nice work on that, very easy :) | 10:22 |
| shawarma | Is there a guide for upgrading servers? | 10:23 |
| theacolyte | yup | 10:24 |
| theacolyte | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | 10:24 |
| theacolyte | err sorry | 10:24 |
| theacolyte | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades | 10:24 |
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