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tonyyarussoWhat tools / methods are used for making themes and icons?  I suppose icons themselves are probably an Inkscape sort of thing, but what about window decorations and packaging everything as an installable theme?06:11
kwwiimost of that is code06:11
tonyyarussodang06:11
tonyyarussokwwii: what sort of code?06:11
wedderbur1i use inkscape for the icons06:11
kwwiithe artwork is mainly done with inkscape, the pieces of the hardcoded theme engines for windeco and styles are pixmaps06:11
kwwiitonyyarusso: C I would guess :-)06:12
wedderbur1inkscape for the usplash and some gimp love06:12
wedderbur1and inkscape for the gnome-splashs06:12
wedderbur1ooo06:12
wedderbur1wrong one06:12
wedderbur1:( thought this was another channel06:12
kwwii:-)06:12
wedderbur1:-[x10006:12
tonyyarussoIt would be nice if there were slick qizard type things around for just whipping together custom stuff easily06:13
kwwiitonyyarusso: yeah, that would be really cool06:13
wedderbur1sorry all06:14
kwwiinp06:15
tonyyarussokwwii: Is it feasible code-wise do you think?06:22
troy_swedderbur1: Think python06:29
troy_swedderbur1: Deadly easy06:29
wedderbur1troy_s: ?06:30
troy_serk... wrong pointer :)06:30
troy_ssorry weddy06:30
troy_sthat was more aimed at tonyyarusso06:31
tonyyarussoah06:31
wedderbur1i c :-p06:31
troy_stonyyarusso: If you are thinking about mucking for mock, bash works fine with imagemagick.  If you want a little more polished, try python with imagemagick and a GUI binding like GTK / Qt etc.06:32
tonyyarussotroy_s: I'm keep that in mind - gotta start learning a bit of code here and there it seems06:33
tonyyarussotroy_s: Are there tutorials floating about about how this all works that I can reference?06:33
troy_stonyyarusso: As far as installation goes, Python is probably the most effective means of concat'ing path names etc.  Again, it is similar to what Daniel is attempting to get done for the 'artwork' packaging, but it requires a wider scope such as sounds and other design related elements.06:33
troy_stonyyarusso: Python is super simple06:34
troy_stonyyarusso: Your best bet is python.org if you want to haggle into scripting.06:34
troy_stonyyarusso: Personally though, if you want to automate some sort of workflow06:34
troy_stonyyarusso: I strongly encourage you to learn imagemagick or graphicsmagick -- it has all the tools required for a very high end imaging workflow.06:34
tonyyarussotroy_s: noted06:35
troy_stonyyarusso: If it is a workflow issue, simply start mucking with im and pay close attention to the repeated tasks you do.06:35
troy_stonyyarusso: Start simple by automating those simple repeated tasks and build outwards.06:35
tonyyarussotroy_s: I more meant for how the artwork actually works - where things go and in what form, etc.  I can 'man imagemagick' to learn how to get there.06:35
troy_stonyyarusso: Well the traditional 'art' (limited description) components are well known and kwwii or someone else who has current 'Ubuntu' state knowledge will be able to help you more in terms of directories etc.06:36
troy_stonyyarusso: That said, there are many elements that Ubuntu won't touch that you might (like panel layouts etc.)06:36
troy_stonyyarusso: And that requires looking into things like gconf etc.06:36
troy_stonyyarusso: Again, it is an evolving concept at this point -- global design theming is entirely new territory.06:37
troy_stonyyarusso: Hope that helps a little...06:38
tonyyarussotroy_s: I think so - thanks06:39
troy_skwwii: Do you think we get good mileage out of taking your current wallpaper and providing the proper backdrops to the icons that show monitors?06:48
troy_sas per bug 6311906:48
ubotuMalone bug 63119 in human-icon-theme "Human missing Trash, Network, Computer, Open Folder SVGs" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6311906:48
troy_sone of the comments06:48
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kwwiitroy_s: yeah, I was thinking about that too...although I have another (darker) wallpaper ready...once I get a decision on that we can decide07:07
troy_skwwii: Indeed... on that scale it should be quite easy to generate and a quick integration assuming we can track down all of the icons.07:11
kwwiitroy_s: I guess the biggest problem is that we do not have the svgs of those icons07:12
troy_skwwii: I think we do07:12
troy_skwwii: I know of at least _one_ that has the terminal that is in svg -- retrofitting shouldn't be too hard.07:12
kwwiiyeah, the screensaver icon has an svg07:12
troy_sin /usr/share/icons/Human/scalable I know there are at least _one_07:12
kwwiibut I could not find either the terminal or the network07:13
troy_spossibly more07:13
troy_skwwii: Needless to say, spline copying is pretty simple07:13
troy_stake all of about 10 minutes at the most07:13
kwwiiif you feel up to it, feel free :-) there is an open bug about those icons not being scalable07:14
kwwiiwe fixed a problem in the theme file today for the ones with SVGs but that won't help the ones without07:15
troy_sinteresting... i can probably do it quite quickly assuming that i can dig up the time07:15
kwwiiI know that feeling :-)07:16
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