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[10:02] we got the beta out of the door :) [10:02] yay [10:02] \o/ for Ollie [10:02] there are some bugs with the docs and the artwork .... [10:03] namely? [10:03] Do tel [10:03] ; [10:03] i'm currently working through the artwork stuff ... and kudos to LaserJock who does the docs [10:03] missing icons for GDM [10:03] and to sbalneav indeed for fixing the ltsp documents === ajmitch is working on tech stuff for feisty+1 [10:03] pips1, and wrong vendor logo [10:03] Meh, did my bit. [10:04] \o/ for sbalneav and LaserJock [10:04] the handbook stuff looks pretty neat [10:04] sadly somehow the patch for yelp to fix the TOC didnt make it in or got lost [10:04] I did a whole whack of re-org too, to make it (what I thought) was a bit more sane. [10:05] currently there is no trace of the handbook in yelp if you dont search for ltsp or edubuntu [10:05] so where do I find the ltsp documentation on my feisty box? [10:05] anyway, thats for the doc section [10:05] right [10:05] open yelp and search for ltsp [10:05] we need to advertise the addon CD a bit i think [10:05] sbalneav, already did an awesome blogpost about that ;) [10:06] How much more time do we have on adding things to the manual? [10:06] apart from that i have some small ltsp bugs on my list, and a dia upgrade is waiting [10:07] trying to get the ltsp list empty beyond the whishlist bugs === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:07] sbalneav, herd6 is scheduled for 5th [10:07] so with 3-4 days of pre-herd freeze the 2nd or 3rd should be the date of last changes [10:07] ok, so if I set aside 6 hours this weekend to add/expand a few more things, we'll get it in? [10:08] Done. [10:08] i think so [10:08] Perfect. [10:08] go sbalneav go! [10:08] :) [10:08] yay [10:08] \o/ [10:08] next meeting i'D like to start collecting spec suggestions for UDS [10:09] Well, what with my huge thing at work, I didn't get ANY time to work on LTSP stuff this time around, but I can at least claim to have improved the manual somewhat, so I don't feel quite as guilty. [10:09] i already have a good list for ltsp suff and lots leftovers from feisty as well [10:09] LDAP [10:09] but we should also look at new things === ajmitch has been busy hacking & getting information for new/updated specs [10:09] sbalneav: and I thought you didn't want it ;) [10:09] for ldap i'D really see pam improved first but i think ajmitch is already fixing a lot in that area === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:10] sorry, lunch [10:10] hey LaserJock [10:10] hey LaserJock [10:10] heh, said I didn't LIKE ldap, not that I didn't want it. We NEED it. It's just not an easy service to deal with :) [10:10] who is lunch ? do i know her ? [10:10] sbalneav: then lets make it easy [10:10] heh, I like your gumption. [10:11] what ltsp needs is an ldm overhaul and new speed profiling the last time we did that was in dapper and ltsp is grown big enough to focus on speed again [10:11] yes. [10:11] so i'd like to put focus on these two [10:12] apart from network auth for which we hopefuly can inherit most parts from ubuntu [10:13] As well, I should have something to demo for a combined LDM/XDMCP localdev communications channel by then, so for low end boxes that need to use XDMCP, localdev will work the same way. [10:13] ogra: add i18n for LDM to the list [10:13] SOmeone last night was asking about -zh support for LDM [10:13] sbalneav, thats on my list since ages :P [10:13] i want to redo the gui completely [10:14] so the ubuntu network-auth is making progress, then? [10:14] including transalatability [10:14] I'd love to learn. Being an ignorant North American, I have no clue how to deal with anything other than ASCII and English, but I WANT to learn. [10:14] pips1, nt more than usual ... [10:14] +1 [10:15] pips1, but given that it advances in this speed since several releases it seems to get somewhere ;) [10:15] just takes time [10:15] right [10:15] ogra, I did a little bit of testing, maybe we can briefly chat after meeting - just to check before I start filing bugs in the tracker === LaserJock kicks ajmitch ;-) [10:16] pips1: what network auth stuff are you referring to? === ajmitch goes & finds a rock to crawl under [10:16] I've got one, we can share === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tidrion [n=cescalan@mail.ogdenpubs.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === MootBot [n=MootBot@81.171.136.170] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pips1 [n=philipp@134.168.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD3C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sacater [n=sacater@host86-136-136-34.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === hoora_191 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-739c20fa8e4befeb] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === guerby [n=guerby@gut75-4-82-235-162-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === txwikinger [n=txwiking@82-46-136-83.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pipedream [n=pipedrea@musselcracker.aims.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.122] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:20] yay we're united again ... [10:20] what's up with freenode? [10:20] gar [10:20] netsplit [10:20] so for tech i'm done ... everybody please test the isos === ajmitch missed the last 5 minutes due to fleenode [10:20] hehe [10:20] oh, on a sidenote, RichEd wont be able to make it today [10:21] pips1: so if you said anything to me in reply, I didn't see it :) [10:21] do we have a Rodrigo replacement yet? [10:21] no === pips1 is also curious about that [10:22] we have two applications so far [10:22] :-/ [10:22] ah [10:22] simply because we had no time for interviews yet [10:22] rich just came back on monday [10:22] busy busy people [10:23] sometimes I think you guys do more travelling that work :/ === ajmitch wouldn't be so silly as to apply [10:23] we want to have a plan ready this wek [10:23] s/that/than/ [10:23] ogra: plan for what? [10:23] well i didnt do much travelling since italy [10:23] rodrigo replacement? === pips1 pokes at ajmitch [10:23] pips1: what? [10:23] how we'll go on with the intervewing === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.122] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:24] LaserJock, ^^ [10:24] ah === pips1 wanted to say pokes fun at ajmitch [10:24] pips1: ah, I'm used to that [10:24] Burgwork, rodrigo resigned in feb. [10:25] gone since march 1st [10:25] :-( [10:25] I hope he's alright. but it a bit of a blow [10:25] & ogra hasn't slept a full night since [10:25] ah [10:25] ajmitch, luckily thats not true [10:25] what did rodrigo do? [10:25] X [10:26] ? [10:26] Burgwork, for edubuntu ? [10:26] ogra: oh good, I thought you've been too busy with work, being shorthanded [10:26] ya [10:26] nothing ... he was mostly working on X [10:26] oh, right [10:26] packaging Moodle [10:26] ? [10:26] which is probably why having him leave didn't change much for your workload [10:26] pips1, if so, then without delivering it [10:26] arggg [10:27] i'm working on an 1.7 package atm [10:27] for Feisty? [10:27] nice [10:27] for feisty+1 ... [10:27] ok [10:27] i doubt i'll have solved the "mysql passwords are ugly in postinst" for feisty [10:27] using custom postinst scripts? [10:27] else i'D hurry up to get it into feisty [10:27] ajmitch: and I were looking at creating a spec to decide on a web-interface for ldap [10:28] Burgwork, for what ? you will need a webserver for such stuff [10:28] for admining the ldap server [10:28] and i wont ship one in edubuntu if i dont need to [10:28] ogra: The last time I did a full install, NetworkMangler was hozing the static interface that ltsp-build-client set up. Has this been fixed yet? === ajmitch would use the relevant FDS tools where possible [10:29] ogra, what web services are currently running out of the box on edubuntu? [10:29] sbalneav, nope, but Mithrandir promised me a fix [10:29] sbalneav, esle i'll just rip out NM [10:29] Well, he saved Middle Earth. Lets hope he saves us :) [10:29] pips1, none in feisty [10:29] ogra, what about Schooltool? [10:30] horribly broken with zope 3 [10:30] pips1, broken in feisty, no fixes in sight ... thus dropped [10:30] (iirc) [10:30] oh wow [10:30] we'll pull it ibn again once it works with zope3 [10:30] zope 3 is not an entirely stable API [10:30] they plan a zope3 based release for end of the yeatr [10:30] likely in time for feisty+1 [10:31] neither is zope2, but changes have slowed down a lot there [10:31] until then it needs to stay in universe [10:31] ic [10:32] where are we in the agenda? Tech? [10:32] tech doc ... which we wanted to merge in the general doc section ... so Art Work then [10:32] no, we are at 'lost in space' ;-) === ajmitch is getting breakfast [10:32] anything about artwork ... [10:33] critics about what we ship ? [10:33] suggestions, submissions ? [10:33] seems fine to me [10:33] I, for one, welcome our new artwork (masters) [10:33] but I like just about everything [10:33] Think it looks good. === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.131.47] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:34] i wanted it to not move away to much from the edgy artwork ... [10:34] but to be a bit calmer [10:34] s people actually keep it :P [10:34] yeah, makes sense [10:34] *so [10:34] thumbs up [10:34] I actually used the Edgy default wallpaper for a while [10:34] edgy was pretty bright and saturated ... [10:34] i used it until beta :) [10:35] i always use our artwork for the whole release [10:35] as if the lasers weren't enough to burn out my eyes ;-) [10:35] heh [10:35] any other artwork matters ? [10:35] cbx33 seems not to be around ... [10:35] ok [10:35] I like the "young" wallpaper, but the blue is a bit of a color scheme shock [10:36] yeah [10:36] well, lisa made lots and lots of blue ones === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:36] actually the one we use now was lue initially as well [10:36] *blue [10:37] I really like the garnome icon theme. [10:37] not sure if she wants to change the blue of the young one ... according to cbx33 she's a bit unhappy we dont ship all of her pics she made [10:38] yeah, but garnome starts to get old ... we should see that we contact upstream to get updates for new icons we need [10:38] but actually we talk about gartoon *g* [10:38] apparently jimmac is working on a gartoon referesh [10:38] jimmac ? [10:39] what has he to do with gartoon ? thats nice news [10:39] \o/ [10:39] Burgwork, are yu sure he isnt doing gorilla instead ? [10:40] anyway, Community & Documentation & Web [10:40] ... and Technical Documentation [10:40] erm, hold on [10:40] just a quick question for artwork [10:40] pips1, other artworjk stuff ? [10:40] shoot [10:41] why didn't we ship all of the wallpapers of Aliasvegas? === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:41] because that bloats the artwork package and i didnt now early eough she expects them all to be in else i'd have made an -extras package [10:42] *know [10:42] hmm. [10:42] cbx33 told me about it on beta freeze day === arualavi [n=Iva@67.Red-83-33-5.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:42] I thought there would be at least three: young, default and academic, or smth? [10:42] default young and plain [10:43] plain has no wallpaper, only a color [10:44] i'm fine if someone wants to pacjk up an -extra package for universe but i currently dnt have time for that [10:44] i'll be a happy upload bitch though [10:45] more art ? [10:46] ok [10:46] Pete and I can upload to Universe as well [10:46] Community & Documentation & Web [10:46] ... and Technical Documentation [10:46] LaserJock, has pete finally got his key signed ? [10:46] well, I(ogra) uploaded edubuntu-docs 0.6-1 [10:47] ogra: oh yeah, I'm not sure if he has or not [10:47] I'll whip him into it [10:47] well, then he still cant ... [10:47] yeah edubuntu-docs is uploaded and on the CD ... [10:47] and recived a pre-final overhaul right before the meeting [10:47] will it be indexed in yelp ? [10:48] it seems I've kinda taken over edubuntu-docs for now [10:48] depends on mdke i heard [10:48] LaserJock: how so? [10:48] pips1: yes, it was supposed to be but when I tried it yesterday it wasn't [10:48] what's up with will? [10:48] pips1, well, he packaged it and somehow takes care for it :) [10:48] well, nixternal was doing most of it but he's really the only person doing the Kubuntu docs [10:49] so he's been very busy with that [10:49] ic [10:49] and doesn't need to be taking care of 2 distros worth of docs [10:49] will was in hospital, seems he brought anything from his last trip [10:49] but he should be fine soon, i heard he's home again [10:49] and I'm a MOTU so I could upload to Universe [10:49] so ... [10:50] I was able to get .pots and an About Edubuntu menu item in the System menu === pips1 was really just wondering why will hadn't be around, all clear now :) [10:50] so carlos was going to put through the .pots sometime today so people can start translating [10:50] pips1, i think he'll be back next meeting [10:50] good to hear === ogra starts feeling alone running the meetings since three weeks on his own [10:51] sorry :( [10:51] LaserJock, i meant from the canonical side of things :) [10:51] but thats how business is ... [10:51] any other doc stuff ? [10:51] we really need to have the docs proofread [10:52] pips1, any website things you want to talk about ? [10:52] for now you can get to them by searching for "edubuntu" or "ltsp" in the yelp search bar === pips1 has also been starting to feel alone regarding the webstuff, since he hasn't heard back from RichEd [10:52] i'll poke him tomorrow [10:53] he just returned from a long trip where he had no network [10:53] RichEd and me have discussed a lot, but I want to get going now... [10:53] and i dont want to see his backlog after a week of not getting mail [10:53] Is the yelp thing going to be fixed? [10:54] well, if I can ever get ahold of mdke [10:54] sbalneav, ask mdke, seems he made the fix that doesnt show up [10:54] I sent him an email yesterday [10:54] but he hasn't responded [10:54] hm, ok [10:54] and I can't find him on IRC lately [10:54] I think he did do the fix [10:54] but I see in the changelog that a lot has been done to that patch === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:54] so I wonder if the change got lost [10:55] mdke should know [10:55] if I don't hear something soon I'll see if I can fix it myself! [10:55] we still have some days [10:55] but it's basically adding a couple lines in the yelp code [10:55] about a bt less than a week i guess ... [10:55] likely we'll freeze on tuesday [10:55] question for the planned community site: LaserJock, would you be glad to help out with forum moderation? === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:56] and ogra, would you be willing to contribute dev news / blogging on the site? [10:57] phew [10:57] hehe [10:57] i cant promise anything ... look at my bloging frequency [10:57] pips1: I think I can, plus I blog a little more often that ogra ;-) [10:57] and i would have to write a lot, i travel a lot ... [10:57] pips1: community site? a seperate forum from ubuntuforums.org? [10:57] oki, I'll ask you again when I've got something nice to look at ;-) [10:57] Burgwork: yes [10:57] Burgwork: yes [10:57] Burgwork, yup [10:58] ugh [10:58] Burgwork: part of RichEd's master paln [10:58] *plan [10:58] even more ugh [10:58] LOL [10:58] "lets divide it up even more!" [10:58] anyway, I will chat with Riched later [10:58] Burgwork: where does the "more" start? [10:59] ubuntu-education vs Edubuntu? [10:59] no [10:59] they get merged there [10:59] ahh [10:59] its rather education vs ubuntu [10:59] where will the forums be? === somerville32 can understand the desire to be autonomous but can't understand the need for a separate forum. [10:59] likely on the drupal server i guess [10:59] somerville32: back from the dead! === somerville32 is in a hospital bathroom stealing wifi. [11:00] yep [11:00] heh [11:00] I can see another website, but another forum is crazy [11:00] somerville32: the idea is that it's not really so much for computer/techy stuff, but education [11:00] ^^^ yep [11:00] its a completely different audience and set of topics [11:00] so ubuntuforums.org would get a bunch of non-technical stuff [11:00] Can't the ubuntuforum facilitate that? [11:00] and the edu people would get overloaded with tech-speak [11:00] so? they are all using ubuntu [11:01] rchs plan is to really have teachers helping teachers about teaching methods etc [11:01] Burgwork, *buntu [11:01] Interesting [11:01] technology integration is the catchword [11:01] ogra: right, I mean Ubuntu in the project sense, not the distro sens [11:01] its not really ubuntu centric [11:01] basically *buntu is sponsoring an Education forum [11:02] but rather "what do i do with the tools i got" from a techer perspective [11:02] and collaboration..ala zimbra/firstclass [11:02] well it will surely also be about edu software [11:02] right [11:02] but it could even have Windows and OS X FLOSS software, I think [11:02] so anybuntu will be involved [11:02] I think FLOSS in Education is the basic topic [11:03] righ [11:03] t === pips1 is glad LaserJock and ogra do all the explanation :) [11:03] with a side track for edubuntu or ubuntu users where needed ... [11:03] shows that we're on the same page :) [11:03] or kubuntu ... or anybuntu :) [11:03] well, after arguing with RichEd and pips1 for a few hours, I think I got the argument down fairly well [11:05] any oter stuff for the topic ? [11:05] we are losing momentum here without something like carnegie algebra/lexialearning/Plato [11:05] or are we done with docs and friends ? [11:06] wel, part of the plan seems to also be content creation and sharing === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:06] which is similar to the edulinux project we're involved in [11:07] for which we had a status meeting this week ... in case someone is intrested ... === pips1 checks out lexialearning [11:08] so what is the status? [11:08] I'm interested [11:08] well we all make good prgress :P [11:09] is there a website for it? [11:09] what are the other project members putting in? [11:09] the central project moodle server has to be purchased soon and i'll get the lessons from te participants [11:09] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edulinux [11:09] lexia is a bunch of like shockwave reading exercises.of increasing complexity..with a substantial recording backend [11:10] cliebow: interesting [11:10] that remonds me [11:10] *reminds as well :) [11:10] there are a ton of edubuntu SoC suggestions on the google Soc page [11:10] we dont seem to hae enough mentors yet [11:11] *have === ajmitch wouldn't qualify as a mentor :) [11:11] i even got funding for servers in each of the six satellite schools i tend..but couldnt get lexia per se to run in wine eor crosssover..all i could do to keep them from washing linux and putting ugh on them [11:11] For the edulinux project, do they have the server yet? [11:11] so in case anyone is intrested in mentoring have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2007 [11:11] sbalneav, i buy the server [11:11] and no, its not existing yet [11:12] there are tons of restrictions what to buy where [11:12] Who's paying for the server? You looking for donations? [11:12] its sponsored by the EU, so i'm only allowed to buy in certain places === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [11:12] no, EU donates everything [11:13] Oh, so they're fronting the money? I was going to say, I'd gladly donate 200 euros to the cause. [11:13] but i'm for example not allowed to order at dell USA :) [11:13] nah, not needed here ... [11:13] OK, more money for beer at UDS :) [11:13] money isnt much but its not the issue ... [11:13] sbalneav: hehe [11:14] doing the buerocracy is the hard part :) [11:14] @schedule atlantic [11:14] Schedule for Canada/Atlantic: Current meeting: Edubuntu | 28 Mar 19:00: Xubuntu | 29 Mar 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Apr 17:00: Marketing Team | 02 Apr 12:00: Community question time | 03 Apr 08:00: Community Council [11:15] anyway, its in progress ... we'll meet up in sweden in summer to merge the content into the main server and to have the different participants presenting their content [11:15] ogra, did you hand out edubuntu cds to the edulinex project members? was there a presentation of sorts? [11:16] sure i did that one year and a half ago at the first meeting as well as in poland :) [11:16] or is it more focussed around publishing edu content with moodle? [11:16] in italy riched and me had a talk at a barcamp [11:16] so we didt do an extra one [11:16] *didnt [11:17] its about creating a distance learning system which incudes content, methods and technology [11:17] edubuntu/canonical will provide for the tech stuff ... i.e. a moodle standalone install CD based on edubuntu === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:17] packaging content so it can easily get installed [11:17] etc etc [11:18] I hope you get some dev reinforcement soon [11:19] well i get free hardware and my monthly loan ... [11:19] what more could i want :) [11:20] a full time dev? :-) [11:21] oh, you mean for the rodrigo position [11:21] yep [11:22] sure, we have awesome applicants :) [11:22] good to hear [11:22] ok [11:22] any other stuff we didnt cover ? [11:22] any questions ? [11:22] any any ? [11:23] SoC [11:23] going once ... [11:23] SoC [11:23] Why do the birds go on singing? [11:23] Why does the sea rush to shore? [11:23]