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Admiral_Chicagohmm, anyone to test a bug?12:51
Admiral_Chicagoignore that, my fault really12:54
gnomefreakasac: are people that really frigging stupid :( see bug 24728 for more info02:43
ubotuMalone bug 24728 in firefox "Firefox crash  [NO NEW CRASH REPORTS] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2472802:43
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asacbug 7113101:29
ubotuMalone bug 71131 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird crashes if you change Gnome theme while it is running" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7113101:29
asacinteresting01:29
asacprobably no totem in there ;)01:29
=== asac lunch
=== asac lunch for real :)
gnomefreakmaybe they had a tab open in firefox playing a video. since ff and tb use same (gtk) maybe both crashed?04:18
=== gnomefreak still sleeping so that might not make much sense
gnomefreakasac: is it safe to reject bug 9742904:21
ubotuMalone bug 97429 in firefox "Login hangs for Kodak Firefox plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9742904:21
asachmm04:25
asaccan we reproduce?04:25
asacor get that plugin from somewhere?04:25
gnomefreaki dont know. i guess ill try04:25
gnomefreakhe gives link in bug.04:25
gnomefreakbut not sure if somehting in 2.0 changed or the extenstion was updated wrong04:26
=== gnomefreak has easyshare cam but never used the easyshare site
gnomefreaki was able to log in fine04:29
gnomefreakoh damn nvm im on feisty04:30
gnomefreakchecking edgy04:31
gnomefreakfeistys log in was much faster04:31
gnomefreakill be back when i get back ill see it04:32
gnomefreakok im gonna assign this bug to me for a bit i want to test a few things.04:37
gnomefreakbuilding a chroot for a fully updated edgy so i dont lose the retrace chroot packages04:41
gnomefreakasac: im merging the bzr branch now. if there is updates can i just build it or do i need to remove the trunk build first?04:49
gnomefreaknvm it looks like merge applies the new stuff04:49
asacmerge?04:50
asacah04:50
asaci think so04:50
asacit has changed04:50
asaci removed the tarball04:50
asacyou can rebuild tarball before building:04:51
asac./debian/rules neworig04:51
asacthis will checkout cvs04:51
asacit uses date that is encoded in changelog version04:51
asacso if you want something newer, add a changelog version and adapt state04:51
asacadapt date04:51
asac:)04:51
gnomefreakAll changes applied successfully.04:51
gnomefreakdoes that mean it was applied to mine or to the trunk source on branch?04:52
gnomefreakah ok merging updated changelog to todays date with "update upstream cvs" so i just rebuild and it should overwrite the one now.05:05
asac?05:28
asacwhat revision do you have in05:28
asac# bzr info05:28
asacBranch history:05:29
asac         6 revisions05:29
asac         6 days old05:29
asac   first revision: Wed 2007-03-21 18:21:15 +010005:29
asac  latest revision: Wed 2007-03-28 12:14:56 +020005:29
asacRevision store:05:29
asac         6 revisions05:29
asac     33562 KiB05:29
asac1: is the tarball gone (should be!) ?05:30
asacdid you run05:30
asac./debian/rules neworig05:30
asacto produce a new tarball?05:30
asacdid it work?05:30
gnomefreakthe tar never changed dates05:31
asacthe tarball was removed05:31
asacit should be gone05:31
gnomefreaknot yet its seems bzr and apt-get update seem to be killing badnwidth05:32
asaci think bzr updated properly05:32
gnomefreakfirefox-2.99+1-3.0a.20070201.tar.bz2.cdbs-config_list05:32
asace.g. its finished05:32
asacthats not the tarball :)05:32
gnomefreakwas left so maybe the tar was gone05:32
asacyeah05:32
asacnur run ./debian/rules neworig05:33
asacnow05:33
asacthat should take a while05:33
asacif its done you should be able to build as usualy05:33
asacwhat version did you choose in changelog?05:33
gnomefreakthat builds new tar than i need to build it than install it?05:33
gnomefreaki didnt choose one but i saw the latest one it was todays update05:34
asacyes05:37
asacright05:37
asacyou can keep it05:37
asacyou don't need to update changelog then05:37
asacneworig will automatically bring you the tarball of today05:37
gnomefreakk05:38
gnomefreaki will do it as soon as i get chroot set up05:38
asacthough state of today has some caret regressions ... so not usable when editing wikis :)05:38
gnomefreakcant use trunk to edit wikis?05:39
gnomefreakthats a hell of a regression (what did it lose)05:39
asacdid not loose anything05:41
asacjust rewrite ongoing05:41
asacshould be shaken out in a few days or so05:42
asacyou can edit wikis :)05:42
asacjust give it a try05:42
asacits just a bit cumbersome :)05:42
gnomefreakok i will05:42
asactrunk has huge changes of layout/gecko engines ongoing ... so this is expected05:44
gnomefreakah ok05:45
asacmaybe I should use the "minefield" branding :) ... at least if you build from bzr ;)06:01
asacso people know "this is bleeding edge ... this is dangerous" :)06:01
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asachjmf: maybe we should make it ieven easier for users to retrace themselves?06:11
asacapport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash06:11
asacsome/tmp_dir/06:11
asace.g. by06:11
asacmaking a script out of this :)06:11
gnomefreakdo we want users to retrace thier own crashes?06:11
asacif they fail or don't want to attach core dump yes06:11
gnomefreakthat will add alot of crap to thier system06:11
asacapport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.$(id -u).crash :)06:12
asacna06:12
asacjust with firefox-dbg06:12
gnomefreakok yeah if it is choice thats fine. but im trying to get backtraces from them06:12
asacand then gdb06:12
asac_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.06:12
asachttps://launchpad.net/bugs/9696706:12
ubotuMalone bug 96967 in firefox "Firefox Crash" [Undecided,Needs info] 06:12
asaclook at hjmf description06:12
asacsomething like that06:12
asacbut make it more failsafe:06:13
asactempdir=$(mktemp -d)06:13
asacapport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.$(id -u).crash $tempdir06:13
asacgdb -nx gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core $tempdir/CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log06:13
asacrm -rf $tempdir06:13
asacthats it06:14
asacups06:14
asacof course no doulbe gdb :)06:14
=== gnomefreak not very bright at all :(
asacwhy bright?06:22
gnomefreaki used rm -rf :(06:23
gnomefreakthere is a problem with nvidia geforce4 and feisty and i wasnt paying attention while cleaning out ~/ and deleted the trunk folder along with 3 others including ~/.gnupg i forgot to add the ~ to it :(06:24
gnomefreakim trying to get trunk back with bzr and it hangs06:25
asacdamn so your home is wiped again?06:25
gnomefreakonly 3or 4 files06:26
gnomefreaki got them back from USB stick except the bzr branch and bzr is hangging so i might try again later06:27
gnomefreakthe little \ isnt spinning06:27
=== gnomefreak has to figure out the nvidia issue fix too
gnomefreakhjmf: can you add that process to the responces wiki?06:31
gnomefreakbrb gonna try reboot06:33
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hjmfgnomefreak: ok I'll do. Write on wiki responses the gdb stuff06:55
gnomefreakty one of these days i will go through it a clean that wiki up alot of stuff should be in one single response not 1006:56
hjmf:)06:56
asaccrash reporting deserves its own page07:03
asacgnomefreak: if you do that, please make the formats of the answers more structured07:04
gnomefreaki planned on it07:04
asaccurrently its one long line without paragraphs etc.07:04
asacurls should get their own indented line etc.07:04
asaci guess you know what i mean :)07:04
gnomefreakasac: Applying patch no-have-stdint-h-ftbfs.patch07:04
gnomefreakcan't find file to patch at input line 907:04
gnomefreakPerhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?07:04
gnomefreakThe text leading up to this was:07:04
gnomefreakwhen trying to build after bzr clone07:05
gnomefreak|--- mozilla.orig/configure.in  2007-01-31 17:12:09.000000000 +010007:06
gnomefreak|+++ mozilla/configure.in       2007-03-22 02:21:42.000000000 +010007:06
gnomefreakmaybe the cause?07:06
asachmm07:06
asacdoes it fail or just complain?07:06
asacoh07:06
asacyou really have a tarball now?07:06
gnomefreakfails07:06
asacplease show ls07:07
gnomefreakno tarball07:07
asacin directory07:07
asacthen it can't work07:07
gnomefreakgnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$ ls07:07
gnomefreakbuild-tree  debian07:07
asacyou have to produce it first07:07
asacyeah07:07
asacproduce it as i said07:07
asac./debian/rules neworig07:07
gnomefreakrun rules07:07
asacmui importante: neworig07:07
gnomefreakin the debian dir?07:07
asacneworig is not run during normal build07:08
asacno07:08
asacjust that line07:08
asacwhen you are in top dir07:08
gnomefreakit failed in the source dir07:08
gnomefreakgnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$ ./debian/rules neworig07:08
gnomefreakpatches/no-have-stdint-h-ftbfs.patch: No such file or directory07:08
gnomefreakwith more lines after that07:08
asacthats ok07:08
asacit should do cvs then07:08
gnomefreakset -e; sh -c "cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot co mozilla/client.mk; cd mozilla && make -f client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_DATE=20070328 MOZ_CO_PROJECT=browser"07:08
asacyeah07:08
gnomefreaksh: cvs: not found07:09
asacthats right07:09
gnomefreakcd: 1: can't cd to mozilla07:09
asac:)07:09
gnomefreakmake: *** [mozilla]  Error 207:09
asacgnomefreak: guess!07:09
gnomefreakthats good?07:09
asacwhat is missing?07:09
gnomefreakits missing cvs07:09
hjmfdone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage/Responses#head-8405d4794c0643fabf667f91a3fcd14baa76ca7c07:09
asacexactly ... so install it :)07:09
asachjmf: some minor typo:07:10
asacInstall the debuggin symbols for firefox:07:10
asacapt-get install firefox-db07:10
asacRun gdb against the coredump file included in the crash report that was generated when firefox crashed. You'll need to unpack the crash report and call gdb in this way:07:10
asacs/firefox-db/firefox-dbg/07:10
hjmfoops :)07:10
asacand maybe add more -dbg packages from the original crash page07:11
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/#head-c576e78d92cb3c959c271158b6ace98be835de8307:11
asacdunno if that is needed07:11
asacmaybe on the first run we ask just to install the firefox-dbg packages07:12
asacif backtrace is not good enough ask to install all07:12
hjmfI wrote If you feel brave, look at the gdb output and search for missing dbg libraries or other warnings, install them and run again gdb.07:12
hjmfMaybe is not too clear :)07:12
asacyeah :)07:12
asacif you have some spare bandwidth consider to install libgtk2.0-0-dbg, ... as well07:13
asacbetter?07:13
asacso firefox-dbg is mandatory while the others are nice to have :)07:13
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs <- that page should definitly be revised as well :)07:14
asace.g. the Debug section07:14
hjmfI'll review asao07:14
hjmfasap07:14
=== gnomefreak sat here trying to figure out asao even after you fixed it :( today is just not my day
hjmflol :)07:17
asac:)07:26
gnomefreakok got chroot installing things got cvs running and i will be back later have to go out07:30
asack08:05
asacok ... now i have to do some debian work :) ... just a few minutes ;)08:08
asacanyone knows if pdf documents are opened within firefox for some setup?08:15
asace.g. does evince provide a plugin?08:16
asacsorry, that I am such a text-only bug :) ... can't remember when I last tried to open a pdf from web without downloading first :)08:17
asachmmm mozplugger does it08:18
asacthat is plain awesome08:32
asacinstall mozplugger08:32
asacdon't install totem-mozilla, but only totem-xine08:32
asac--> things will work :)08:32
asacthat gives some great new ideas :)08:34
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hjmftested mozplugger; not sure what it does, but now i can view http://www.apple.com/itunes/ads with totem plugin08:47
asachow?08:52
asactotem-xine08:52
asacif you have mozplugger you don't even need08:52
asactotem-mozilla :)08:52
asacand restyle crash will be gone08:52
asacits funny08:52
asactry it08:52
hjmfok08:52
asacthe whole totem standard window gets pushed into that embed window :)08:53
hjmfin my case seems that is mplayer what plays the video09:02
asacuninstall all mozilla plugins :)09:04
asace.g. remove mozilla-mplayer09:04
asachjmf: i guess you attached the wrong threadstacktrace for bug 97478 right?09:05
ubotuMalone bug 97478 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed [@IA__g_signal_emit_valist] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9747809:05
asacBug 6014709:06
ubotuMalone bug 60147 in firefox "saved firefox resumes as if crashed" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6014709:06
asac-> dup of crash on instant x shutdown09:07
hjmflooking09:07
hjmfthat stacktrace was curious but is the one on that crash, because I post them from a script, so no chances for a mistake. I'll review anyway09:08
asachmmm maybe unexpected content in result confused your script :)09:09
asacanyway, more important: bug 9725709:09
ubotuMalone bug 97257 in firefox "Upgrade to Firefox 2.0.0.3 causes xine plugin to crash Firefox" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9725709:09
asacdo we see that: "whenever playing video it crashes" ?09:09
hjmfwmv files are always problematic09:10
asacwhat problematic?09:10
asacdo they crash?09:11
asacits really important as user says that it doesn't crash with 2.0.0.209:11
asacwhich would be a no go regression09:11
gnomefreakasac: can you trust the user to have done the same thing with 2.0.0.2 and .3 as in lets say theme crash did they change themes with 2.0.0.2?09:12
asacno09:13
asacbut this sounds really to be different09:13
asacbecause user says: crashes always09:13
asacjust want to verify that someone can use totem-xine09:13
gnomefreakedgy?09:13
hjmf... Im trying to test with xine-plugin09:13
asace.g. for our apple ads09:13
asacno09:13
asacon feisty09:14
asacxine-plugin?09:14
gnomefreakfeisty on the apple ads?09:14
asacits totem-mozilla with totem-xine09:14
asacfor instance09:14
hjmfhowever its named09:14
hjmf:)09:14
asacif that works i would feel better09:14
gnomefreakthats what i use09:14
asacgnomefreak: e.g. not theme crash09:14
asacso 2.0.0.3 works? on apple site?09:14
asacgood09:14
asacwith totem-xine?09:14
gnomefreaki have no problem view the videos09:14
asacok09:14
gnomefreakas long as i dont change themes09:15
gnomefreakwill check again in a few09:15
asacgood ... and you are running latest?09:15
asacwas there a totem update in the last days?09:15
gnomefreakyes fully updated as of 9am this morning09:15
gnomefreakits 3:15pm atm09:15
gnomefreakok lets prey this builds now09:16
asacgnomefreak: can you play videos in chroot?09:16
gnomefreaki should be able to.09:17
asachmm doesn't work for me09:18
asacnow i mounted /dev as well09:19
gnomefreakstill cant build it09:19
hjmf Message: totemPlugin ctor [0x85846f8] 09:19
hjmf** Message: Init mimetype 'video/quicktime' mode 109:19
hjmf** Message: Base URI is 'http://www.apple.com/itunes/'09:19
hjmf** Message: Failed to open DBUS session: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session09:19
asacgnomefreak: what happens?09:20
asachas neworig finished?09:20
gnomefreakalot of crap worth of output let me see if i have depends09:20
gnomefreakyes09:20
asacok09:20
asacso you miss dependencies...ok09:21
asacthat would be the lesser evil :)09:21
asachjmf: where do you see that?09:21
asachjmf: but no crash?09:21
hjmfplaying apple ads on feisty s  chroot09:21
asacah ok09:21
hjmfno crash, but no video09:21
asacyeah09:21
asachave mounted /proc and /dev ?09:22
hjmfno09:22
asaci think you need both09:22
asacin chroot09:22
hjmfnoticed09:22
gnomefreakhjmf: refresh page09:22
asachjmf: like this09:22
asac /proc /srv/chroots/feisty2/proc none bind 0 009:22
hjmfis what asac said yesterday about dbus and totem :)09:22
asac /dev /srv/chroots/feisty2/dev none bind 0 009:22
asacah :) ... yeah ... at least the symptom is the same ... if dbus does fail it doesn't play movie09:23
hjmf:)09:23
asachowever i don't see such a message in case totem does not play09:23
hjmfnoticed my fstab I had commented out the proc entries09:23
asacah09:23
asacok09:23
asaci have mounted both09:23
asacbut still it doesn't play09:24
hjmfI guess I did that for some reason I dont remember09:24
gnomefreakasac: http://pastebin.ca/41389609:24
gnomefreakasac: while your reading ill be right back need smoke09:24
asacactually my feisty chroot is a bit wierd ... everywhere i can just schroot -cmychrootX -p09:25
asacand then DISPLAY is set properly09:25
asacin feisty i have to export DISPLAY=localhost:xxx09:25
asacjust in chroot09:25
asacyes09:25
asacgnomefreak:09:25
asacyou have to use a different command :)09:25
asacthere is now bzr cruft in your sourcetree09:26
asacwhich you don't want in diff.gz09:26
asacthus:09:26
asacuse one more option for building:09:26
asac-i.bzr/09:26
asace.g. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -i.bzr/09:26
asacso the .bzr dir is not recognized during build09:26
asacsorry i forgot to say that last time :)09:27
gnomefreakits all good its running lets see how far it gets09:27
gnomefreakso from now on the -i.bzr is needed in all cases?09:27
hjmfgot rid of the proc error, but cant view those ads because:09:27
hjmf** (totem-plugin-viewer:24847): WARNING **: Mimetype 'video/quicktime' doesn't have a handler09:28
hjmf don't know how to handle video/x-h26409:28
hjmf** Message: totem_embedded_set_error: 'An error occurred', 'The playback of this movie requires the following decoders which are not installed:09:28
hjmfMPEG-4 AAC decoder09:28
hjmf:/09:29
gnomefreakhjmf: libxine-extracodecs?09:29
gnomefreakcomes in handy for those non free formats :)09:29
hjmftrying09:29
asaci still get ** (totem-plugin-viewer:9664): WARNING **: Error in bacon_video_widget_play: There is no plugin to handle this movie09:34
asacin schroot09:34
asacwith totem-xine09:34
asacwhile it works well on main desktop09:34
gnomefreaki get that too sometimes09:34
asacsometimes?09:34
gnomefreakgive me some time and ill try it. refreshing page sometimes help09:35
gnomefreaki was getting that on main install not so much chroot09:35
asacdo you get that just in chroot?09:35
asacor everywhere?09:35
asacwhat happens if you get that?09:35
asacjust black screen09:35
gnomefreakeverywhere i beileve but give me a few and ill find out09:35
asacbut totem controls are visible?09:35
asacthank you09:35
gnomefreakmake that alot of time09:36
gnomefreaki dont have feisty set up for it yet in chroot. i was getting those warnings in gdb>09:36
gnomefreakthats why it failed to crash maybe09:36
asachmm please try in main install09:37
asacif you can visit video sites well :)09:37
asacjust to be double sure09:37
gnomefreakk09:37
hjmfok totem fails to play because doesn't know how to play codec h26409:37
gnomefreakwhats the apple site?09:37
hjmfbut installing mozplugger calls (i guess ) ffmpeg which knows how to do it09:38
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gnomefreakmine might be using vlc09:38
asaci have as well09:38
asacdid that once because i thought it might be related09:38
gnomefreaki might have to figure out how to set totem as default09:38
asactotem usually wins09:41
asachaven't found another plugin that wins mplayer comes second ... same vlc09:41
hjmfyes, here totem-mozilla when is always the default player whichever other plugin is installed09:44
hjmfd/when/09:44
gnomefreak** Message: Launching: /usr/lib/totem/totem-plugin-viewer --plugin-type narrowspace --user-agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.3 (Ubuntu-feisty) --mimetype video/quicktime --no-controls09:45
asacyeah thats standard message afaik09:45
gnomefreak** (totem-plugin-viewer:31114): WARNING **: Error in bacon_video_widget_play: There is no plugin to handle this movie.09:45
asacyes ... and does it work?09:45
gnomefreakthis is on main system09:45
gnomefreakit shows it to start with and when you hit reply it goes black09:46
gnomefreak** Message: Viewer state: STOPPED09:46
gnomefreak** Message: totem_embedded_set_error: 'An error occurred', 'The movie could not be read.'09:46
gnomefreak** Message: NewStream mimetype 'video/quicktime' URL 'http://images.apple.com/itunes/home/images/2007/01/appletv_intro_20070109.mov'09:46
gnomefreakseeing as we have no real quicktime packages you are gonna get that i would think09:47
hjmf... that's what I said :)09:47
hjmfdoesn't know how to play codec h26409:47
hjmfapple format09:47
asacwait a sec09:47
asacbbim09:47
gnomefreaki dont get that error hjmf09:47
gnomefreaknothing about codec h26409:47
hjmf--> video/x-h26409:48
hjmfAt least here09:48
hjmfwith the package you told me :)09:48
gnomefreaknow i see the people09:48
gnomefreakclick to watch new ad09:49
gnomefreakso i did09:49
hjmfI had some experience with that and my ipod, I had to recompile myself ffmpeg09:49
hjmfwith aac support and others09:49
gnomefreakhttp://www.apple.com/itunes/ads/partycolor/09:49
=== gnomefreak leaning towards totem issue not firefox issue
hjmfI can view the adds with totem if I select my compiled ffmpeg stuff, but I cant with the default one09:51
gnomefreaklibquicktime0 :)09:51
gnomefreaklibxine1-ffmpeg09:52
gnomefreakwe have a few quicktime things to use atleast try09:52
hjmfI have them installed09:52
gnomefreaklibxine1-plugins quicktime-utils quicktime-x11utils09:52
hjmflibxine1-ffmpeg                  1.1.4-2ubuntu309:52
hjmfsame error MPEG-4 AAC decoder09:54
hjmfH.264 decoder09:54
hjmfnevermind I can use my ffmpeg or just mozplugger09:54
hjmf:)09:54
hjmfas I use my ffmpeg to transcode movies for my ipod </offtopic> :)09:55
=== hjmf have to go as spain is going to play football at 22:00
hjmfsee you09:56
gnomefreaksocor?09:56
hjmfyes09:56
gnomefreaksoccer?09:56
hjmfyes09:56
hjmfan important match to classify to the euro-cup09:56
hjmfnot a big opponent but spain is in a semi-crisis of results :)09:57
hjmfbye09:57
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hjmfI didn't want to close09:59
gnomefreakthat was fast game09:59
hjmflol09:59
gnomefreakhave fun10:00
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hjmfthank you10:00
gnomefreakstill cant seem to play it :(10:02
asacok sorry10:07
asacphone call10:07
asacwas here10:07
asacgnomefreak: so you can't play at all?10:08
asachjmf: soccer?10:08
gnomefreaknope not looking that way i just installed mozplugger lets see10:08
asacwith mozplugger it works10:08
asacyou have to uninstall totem-mozilla10:08
asacthen10:08
asacand keep totem-xine installed10:09
gnomefreaki have both10:09
gnomefreakasac: check so do you im sure10:09
gnomefreakapt-cache policy totem-mozilla than totem-xine10:09
asacif you have totem-mozilla mozplugger will not kick-in10:10
asacbut you don't have to test that10:10
gnomefreakah10:10
asaci just want to know: does video work?10:10
asacin feisty10:10
asacthats my only concern now :)10:10
asacdefault video10:10
gnomefreakits lack of quicktime codecs10:10
asacaka totem-mozilla10:10
asacna .. why? it works flawless here on edgy10:11
asacthats what I fail to understand :(10:11
gnomefreakwell than why would it fail on edgy with a codecs failure10:11
gnomefreakfirefox hold no code for codecs afaik10:11
gnomefreaks/hold/holds10:12
gnomefreakfirefox just calls player10:12
asac?10:12
asacit does work on edgy10:12
asacit fails on feisty for you10:12
asacany other site with video?10:12
asacgnomefreak: try these10:13
asachttp://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/10:13
asacthose are mpgs10:13
gnomefreaknot tried yet but im betting its strictly quicktime. i dont do videos much so i dont have links laying around i will ask a few people for video links10:13
asacdo those work?10:17
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gnomefreakwas i part of that split?10:21
asacyeah10:21
asacyou have been away10:21
asacdo those work?10:21
asachttp://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/10:21
asac?10:21
gnomefreakonly opening them in totem not the plugin10:22
asacso its completely broken10:22
gnomefreakright click and choose open in movie player10:22
asacthat does not help a lot10:23
asacits completely unacceptable that embedded video is broken10:23
asacdo you have epiphany?10:23
asacis it broken there too?10:23
gnomefreaki agree but is it fireefox or plugins10:23
asacpackage: epiphany-browser10:23
gnomefreaki dont think i have it atm10:23
gnomefreaknope not yet10:24
asaci hope its plugin ... otherwise i don't see what's going on10:24
asacfirefox 2.0.0.3 was just tiny10:24
asacdifference10:24
asacbut i know: totem 2.18 has major rewrite of plugin layer10:24
gnomefreakits installing10:24
asacthanks10:24
gnomefreakthan i blame plugin10:24
asaci know that totem developers test more on epiphany10:25
asacwho knows10:25
asacwhy did it went unseen so long?10:25
gnomefreakmojor overwrite > tiny security fixes10:25
gnomefreakweve been testing in edgy chroots?10:25
gnomefreak2.0.0.3 is only a day old in ubuntu?10:25
asacthats why i think maybe its still firefox problem10:25
asacyes if its a plugin problem then 2.0.0.3 should not matter10:26
gnomefreakit worked in 2.0.0.2 in feisty?10:26
asaci don't know!!! AND THAT IS REALLY BAD :)10:26
gnomefreaklol10:26
asacgnomefreak: can you please try i mplayer works?10:26
asacdo you still have 2.0.0.2 in cache?10:26
gnomefreakno10:27
gnomefreakdont know how to do it in mplayer10:27
gnomefreakbut let me test epiphany-browser first :)10:27
gnomefreakabout 10 minutes ill be ready to test10:27
gnomefreakmaybe download the movie and open it in mplayer?10:27
asacmplayer: install mozilla-mplayer10:27
asac+ uninstall totem10:28
asacthen it should work10:28
gnomefreakoh10:28
asacno10:28
asacit should work embedded10:28
asacfor us it just matters if it works embedded10:28
gnomefreakok ill try in a bit.10:28
gnomefreaksee what bothers me is its calling the plugin to play it but plugin is failing (read teh output when ran from term.10:29
gnomefreakmake that like 20mintues i stopped it to add -extentions package10:30
asacok10:31
asacmplayer works fine10:31
asacthats good10:31
asacat least plugins are not completely broken10:31
asacbut totem plugin is10:31
asacand thats really bad10:31
asacits default ... please verify that mplayer works anyway :)10:31
asacwe have to be extra sure10:31
asacotherwise we hunt down the wrong track10:31
gnomefreakdid you try trunk build?10:34
asacno why?10:34
asacits not that important10:34
gnomefreakif it doesnt work in trunk its a good chance its plugin issue10:34
asachmm10:34
asacit definitly is10:35
gnomefreakit has to be plugin10:35
gnomefreakfirefox has nothing to do with embedded video10:35
gnomefreakdirctly10:35
gnomefreaktesting epiphany10:36
gnomefreakthats a bug :(10:36
asacwhy has firefox nothing to do with embedded video?10:36
asacfirefox provides everything around the window of totem10:36
asacso both can contribute to failure10:37
asacso you don't have ffox 2.0.0.2 somewhere around?10:37
gnomefreakonly in edgy chroot10:38
gnomefreakim gonna try to get it for feisty chroot when i get a chance to set it up right10:38
asacok10:39
asac2007-03-27  Published  feisty   Release  main  gnome  2.18.0-0ubuntu210:39
asacso yesterday both were updated10:39
asace.g. firefox + totem10:39
asacso it might be indeed a totem regression10:39
gnomefreakah yes i think totem was10:39
asachowever 2.1810:39
asacwas already in archive before10:40
gnomefreakepiphany seems to be failing10:40
gnomefreakcorrect10:40
gnomefreakbut a patch that was added could have caused this fault10:40
asacso it is likely due to ubuntu maintainers ... if its totem fault at all10:40
asac 80_from_svn_fix_codec_installation_when_subtitles_are_used.dpatch:10:41
asac    - fix codec installation when subtitles are used (Ubuntu: #89302)10:41
asacok10:41
gnomefreakepiphany home page is a kubuntu one :(10:41
asaci will try to disable that patch and see10:41
gnomefreakwhen was that patch added?10:41
asacyesterday10:42
asacthats the only change they did10:42
asacso if it still fails after removing then we are to blame10:42
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asacsad thing i cannot even say if it works or not10:43
asacit never worked for feisty for me10:43
asacbut lets see10:43
asacnow i have /dev mounted as well10:43
asacand mplayer works in chroot10:43
asacso probably it will10:43
=== gnomefreak only videos i do are for testing so i have no control sample :(
asacdoes totem-gstreamer fail for you the same?10:44
gnomefreaknever used it10:44
gnomefreakwould need w32codecs most likely10:44
asacyou reproduced crashes10:44
asacdidn't you?10:44
asacso it worked at some point10:44
gnomefreakyeah10:44
asacyou know when ?10:44
gnomefreakdont know it crashed10:44
gnomefreaktheme changes you dont need it to really play just attempt to load10:45
gnomefreakthe apple ads worked sort of10:45
gnomefreakunless they are that short to start with10:45
gnomefreakon wtf :(10:53
gnomefreakasac: if you get a minute open file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-%l.html in a browser in feisty and tell me what the page looks like. is it welcome to kubuntu10:56
gnomefreaks/on/oh11:04
asacwhat is %l ?11:09
gnomefreakdont know11:09
asacwhat do you have there?11:09
gnomefreakis there a less cryptic way we can do this? the running apport on local end that hjmf wrote up?11:09
gnomefreakwelcome to kubuntu11:10
asacyou have to replace %l with your language of choice11:10
gnomefreakit open english just fine but the kubuntu home page inside ubuntu-artwork or even on a gnome browser is kind of ass backwards11:11
asacgnomefreak: can you do me one last favor and see if totem-gstreamer doesn't work for you at all?11:28
gnomefreakok what gstreamer packages do i need and do you want to test with w32codecs installed?11:29
asacyou won't need to11:30
asacplaying mpg would be good enough to begin with11:30
asactotem-gstreamer11:30
gnomefreaklooking at restricted link11:30
asacinstead of totem-xine11:30
gnomefreakThe best support for MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 (for example, encoded with DivX, XviD or FFmpeg MPEG-4), QuickTime and other proprietary or non-free media formats is currently provided by Totem-xine, Kaffeine, gxine, and MPlayer.11:32
gnomefreakgive me a few minutes i have gstreamer installing11:32
asacanyway11:32
asaccool11:32
gnomefreakit built :)11:33
gnomefreakits playing fine11:36
gnomefreakhttp://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/p827v.mpg11:36
asacreally?11:36
asacaha11:36
asacgood11:36
asacand how about ... apple ads?11:36
asacguess you need w32codecs11:36
gnomefreakgive me a while that package is huge11:37
gnomefreak14M11:38
gnomefreakabout 40minutes11:38
asacwhere is w32codecs?11:39
asaci cannot find :)11:39
gnomefreakwget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb11:42
gnomefreaki might have the deb on my site but i cant remember11:43
asacthx11:43
gnomefreakyw11:43
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gnomefreak6.5kbps :(11:43
asacha :)11:44
asacnot suitable for amd6411:44
asacas usual11:44
gnomefreakcorrect11:44
gnomefreakbut wait11:44
gnomefreaki might have something for you11:44
gnomefreakUsers of x86 or x86_64, systems may also install some  additional Windows codecs that are available in the third-party repository of [WWW]  Medibuntu.11:44
gnomefreaklet me get the medibuntu link11:44
asacoh no :)11:44
gnomefreaksee http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php11:45
gnomefreakok what apple vids did you want to test12:11
gnomefreaknot looking like it will play it12:14
gnomefreakwith w32codecs12:14
gnomefreakno it doesnt seem to play but i need gstreamer packages.12:17
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asacok its official12:23
asactotem-xine is broken12:23
asacupstream12:23
gnomefreaki get sound no video :(12:23
asacin what?12:24
asacgstreamer?12:24
gnomefreakon apple ads12:24
gnomefreakyeah12:24
asacok fine12:24
asaccan you still crash?12:24
asac:)12:24
asactheme switch12:24
asac?12:24
gnomefreaki installed all needed gstreamer plugins too12:24
gnomefreakoh hell i dont know12:24
asace.g. listen to speech12:24
gnomefreaki totally forgot the testcase on that but lets see what i can do12:24
asacswitch  clip12:24
asaclisten again12:24
asacthen switch theme12:24
gnomefreakyay i got video :(12:25
gnomefreakno crash it seems12:25
gnomefreaki did it 2 times and no crash12:26

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