[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, anyone to test a bug?
[12:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ignore that, my fault really
[02:43] <gnomefreak> asac: are people that really frigging stupid :( see bug 24728 for more info
[02:43] <ubotu> Malone bug 24728 in firefox "Firefox crash  [NO NEW CRASH REPORTS] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/24728
[01:29] <asac> bug 71131
[01:29] <ubotu> Malone bug 71131 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird crashes if you change Gnome theme while it is running" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71131
[01:29] <asac> interesting
[01:29] <asac> probably no totem in there ;)
[04:18] <gnomefreak> maybe they had a tab open in firefox playing a video. since ff and tb use same (gtk) maybe both crashed?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> asac: is it safe to reject bug 97429
[04:21] <ubotu> Malone bug 97429 in firefox "Login hangs for Kodak Firefox plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97429
[04:25] <asac> hmm
[04:25] <asac> can we reproduce?
[04:25] <asac> or get that plugin from somewhere?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> i dont know. i guess ill try
[04:25] <gnomefreak> he gives link in bug.
[04:26] <gnomefreak> but not sure if somehting in 2.0 changed or the extenstion was updated wrong
[04:29] <gnomefreak> i was able to log in fine
[04:30] <gnomefreak> oh damn nvm im on feisty
[04:31] <gnomefreak> checking edgy
[04:31] <gnomefreak> feistys log in was much faster
[04:32] <gnomefreak> ill be back when i get back ill see it
[04:37] <gnomefreak> ok im gonna assign this bug to me for a bit i want to test a few things.
[04:41] <gnomefreak> building a chroot for a fully updated edgy so i dont lose the retrace chroot packages
[04:49] <gnomefreak> asac: im merging the bzr branch now. if there is updates can i just build it or do i need to remove the trunk build first?
[04:49] <gnomefreak> nvm it looks like merge applies the new stuff
[04:50] <asac> merge?
[04:50] <asac> ah
[04:50] <asac> i think so
[04:50] <asac> it has changed
[04:50] <asac> i removed the tarball
[04:51] <asac> you can rebuild tarball before building:
[04:51] <asac> ./debian/rules neworig
[04:51] <asac> this will checkout cvs
[04:51] <asac> it uses date that is encoded in changelog version
[04:51] <asac> so if you want something newer, add a changelog version and adapt state
[04:51] <asac> adapt date
[04:51] <asac> :)
[04:51] <gnomefreak> All changes applied successfully.
[04:52] <gnomefreak> does that mean it was applied to mine or to the trunk source on branch?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> ah ok merging updated changelog to todays date with "update upstream cvs" so i just rebuild and it should overwrite the one now.
[05:28] <asac> ?
[05:28] <asac> what revision do you have in
[05:28] <asac> # bzr info
[05:29] <asac> Branch history:
[05:29] <asac>          6 revisions
[05:29] <asac>          6 days old
[05:29] <asac>    first revision: Wed 2007-03-21 18:21:15 +0100
[05:29] <asac>   latest revision: Wed 2007-03-28 12:14:56 +0200
[05:29] <asac> Revision store:
[05:29] <asac>          6 revisions
[05:29] <asac>      33562 KiB
[05:30] <asac> 1: is the tarball gone (should be!) ?
[05:30] <asac> did you run
[05:30] <asac> ./debian/rules neworig
[05:30] <asac> to produce a new tarball?
[05:30] <asac> did it work?
[05:31] <gnomefreak> the tar never changed dates
[05:31] <asac> the tarball was removed
[05:31] <asac> it should be gone
[05:32] <gnomefreak> not yet its seems bzr and apt-get update seem to be killing badnwidth
[05:32] <asac> i think bzr updated properly
[05:32] <gnomefreak> firefox-2.99+1-3.0a.20070201.tar.bz2.cdbs-config_list
[05:32] <asac> e.g. its finished
[05:32] <asac> thats not the tarball :)
[05:32] <gnomefreak> was left so maybe the tar was gone
[05:32] <asac> yeah
[05:33] <asac> nur run ./debian/rules neworig
[05:33] <asac> now
[05:33] <asac> that should take a while
[05:33] <asac> if its done you should be able to build as usualy
[05:33] <asac> what version did you choose in changelog?
[05:33] <gnomefreak> that builds new tar than i need to build it than install it?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> i didnt choose one but i saw the latest one it was todays update
[05:37] <asac> yes
[05:37] <asac> right
[05:37] <asac> you can keep it
[05:37] <asac> you don't need to update changelog then
[05:37] <asac> neworig will automatically bring you the tarball of today
[05:38] <gnomefreak> k
[05:38] <gnomefreak> i will do it as soon as i get chroot set up
[05:38] <asac> though state of today has some caret regressions ... so not usable when editing wikis :)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> cant use trunk to edit wikis?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> thats a hell of a regression (what did it lose)
[05:41] <asac> did not loose anything
[05:41] <asac> just rewrite ongoing
[05:42] <asac> should be shaken out in a few days or so
[05:42] <asac> you can edit wikis :)
[05:42] <asac> just give it a try
[05:42] <asac> its just a bit cumbersome :)
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ok i will
[05:44] <asac> trunk has huge changes of layout/gecko engines ongoing ... so this is expected
[05:45] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[06:01] <asac> maybe I should use the "minefield" branding :) ... at least if you build from bzr ;)
[06:01] <asac> so people know "this is bleeding edge ... this is dangerous" :)
[06:11] <asac> hjmf: maybe we should make it ieven easier for users to retrace themselves?
[06:11] <asac> apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash
[06:11] <asac> some/tmp_dir/
[06:11] <asac> e.g. by
[06:11] <asac> making a script out of this :)
[06:11] <gnomefreak> do we want users to retrace thier own crashes?
[06:11] <asac> if they fail or don't want to attach core dump yes
[06:11] <gnomefreak> that will add alot of crap to thier system
[06:12] <asac> apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.$(id -u).crash :)
[06:12] <asac> na
[06:12] <asac> just with firefox-dbg
[06:12] <gnomefreak> ok yeah if it is choice thats fine. but im trying to get backtraces from them
[06:12] <asac> and then gdb
[06:12] <asac> _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.
[06:12] <asac> https://launchpad.net/bugs/96967
[06:12] <ubotu> Malone bug 96967 in firefox "Firefox Crash" [Undecided,Needs info] 
[06:12] <asac> look at hjmf description
[06:12] <asac> something like that
[06:13] <asac> but make it more failsafe:
[06:13] <asac> tempdir=$(mktemp -d)
[06:13] <asac> apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.$(id -u).crash $tempdir
[06:13] <asac> gdb -nx gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core $tempdir/CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log
[06:13] <asac> rm -rf $tempdir
[06:14] <asac> thats it
[06:14] <asac> ups
[06:14] <asac> of course no doulbe gdb :)
[06:22] <asac> why bright?
[06:23] <gnomefreak> i used rm -rf :(
[06:24] <gnomefreak> there is a problem with nvidia geforce4 and feisty and i wasnt paying attention while cleaning out ~/ and deleted the trunk folder along with 3 others including ~/.gnupg i forgot to add the ~ to it :(
[06:25] <gnomefreak> im trying to get trunk back with bzr and it hangs
[06:25] <asac> damn so your home is wiped again?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> only 3or 4 files
[06:27] <gnomefreak> i got them back from USB stick except the bzr branch and bzr is hangging so i might try again later
[06:27] <gnomefreak> the little \ isnt spinning
[06:31] <gnomefreak> hjmf: can you add that process to the responces wiki?
[06:33] <gnomefreak> brb gonna try reboot
[06:55] <hjmf> gnomefreak: ok I'll do. Write on wiki responses the gdb stuff
[06:56] <gnomefreak> ty one of these days i will go through it a clean that wiki up alot of stuff should be in one single response not 10
[06:56] <hjmf> :)
[07:03] <asac> crash reporting deserves its own page
[07:04] <asac> gnomefreak: if you do that, please make the formats of the answers more structured
[07:04] <gnomefreak> i planned on it
[07:04] <asac> currently its one long line without paragraphs etc.
[07:04] <asac> urls should get their own indented line etc.
[07:04] <asac> i guess you know what i mean :)
[07:04] <gnomefreak> asac: Applying patch no-have-stdint-h-ftbfs.patch
[07:04] <gnomefreak> can't find file to patch at input line 9
[07:04] <gnomefreak> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[07:04] <gnomefreak> The text leading up to this was:
[07:05] <gnomefreak> when trying to build after bzr clone
[07:06] <gnomefreak> |--- mozilla.orig/configure.in  2007-01-31 17:12:09.000000000 +0100
[07:06] <gnomefreak> |+++ mozilla/configure.in       2007-03-22 02:21:42.000000000 +0100
[07:06] <gnomefreak> maybe the cause?
[07:06] <asac> hmm
[07:06] <asac> does it fail or just complain?
[07:06] <asac> oh
[07:06] <asac> you really have a tarball now?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> fails
[07:07] <asac> please show ls
[07:07] <gnomefreak> no tarball
[07:07] <asac> in directory
[07:07] <asac> then it can't work
[07:07] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$ ls
[07:07] <gnomefreak> build-tree  debian
[07:07] <asac> you have to produce it first
[07:07] <asac> yeah
[07:07] <asac> produce it as i said
[07:07] <asac> ./debian/rules neworig
[07:07] <gnomefreak> run rules
[07:07] <asac> mui importante: neworig
[07:07] <gnomefreak> in the debian dir?
[07:08] <asac> neworig is not run during normal build
[07:08] <asac> no
[07:08] <asac> just that line
[07:08] <asac> when you are in top dir
[07:08] <gnomefreak> it failed in the source dir
[07:08] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$ ./debian/rules neworig
[07:08] <gnomefreak> patches/no-have-stdint-h-ftbfs.patch: No such file or directory
[07:08] <gnomefreak> with more lines after that
[07:08] <asac> thats ok
[07:08] <asac> it should do cvs then
[07:08] <gnomefreak> set -e; sh -c "cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot co mozilla/client.mk; cd mozilla && make -f client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_DATE=20070328 MOZ_CO_PROJECT=browser"
[07:08] <asac> yeah
[07:09] <gnomefreak> sh: cvs: not found
[07:09] <asac> thats right
[07:09] <gnomefreak> cd: 1: can't cd to mozilla
[07:09] <asac> :)
[07:09] <gnomefreak> make: *** [mozilla]  Error 2
[07:09] <asac> gnomefreak: guess!
[07:09] <gnomefreak> thats good?
[07:09] <asac> what is missing?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> its missing cvs
[07:09] <hjmf> done: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage/Responses#head-8405d4794c0643fabf667f91a3fcd14baa76ca7c
[07:09] <asac> exactly ... so install it :)
[07:10] <asac> hjmf: some minor typo:
[07:10] <asac> Install the debuggin symbols for firefox:
[07:10] <asac> apt-get install firefox-db
[07:10] <asac> Run gdb against the coredump file included in the crash report that was generated when firefox crashed. You'll need to unpack the crash report and call gdb in this way:
[07:10] <asac> s/firefox-db/firefox-dbg/
[07:10] <hjmf> oops :)
[07:11] <asac> and maybe add more -dbg packages from the original crash page
[07:11] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/#head-c576e78d92cb3c959c271158b6ace98be835de83
[07:11] <asac> dunno if that is needed
[07:12] <asac> maybe on the first run we ask just to install the firefox-dbg packages
[07:12] <asac> if backtrace is not good enough ask to install all
[07:12] <hjmf> I wrote If you feel brave, look at the gdb output and search for missing dbg libraries or other warnings, install them and run again gdb.
[07:12] <hjmf> Maybe is not too clear :)
[07:12] <asac> yeah :)
[07:13] <asac> if you have some spare bandwidth consider to install libgtk2.0-0-dbg, ... as well
[07:13] <asac> better?
[07:13] <asac> so firefox-dbg is mandatory while the others are nice to have :)
[07:14] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs <- that page should definitly be revised as well :)
[07:14] <asac> e.g. the Debug section
[07:14] <hjmf> I'll review asao
[07:14] <hjmf> asap
[07:17] <hjmf> lol :)
[07:26] <asac> :)
[07:30] <gnomefreak> ok got chroot installing things got cvs running and i will be back later have to go out
[08:05] <asac> k
[08:08] <asac> ok ... now i have to do some debian work :) ... just a few minutes ;)
[08:15] <asac> anyone knows if pdf documents are opened within firefox for some setup?
[08:16] <asac> e.g. does evince provide a plugin?
[08:17] <asac> sorry, that I am such a text-only bug :) ... can't remember when I last tried to open a pdf from web without downloading first :)
[08:18] <asac> hmmm mozplugger does it
[08:32] <asac> that is plain awesome
[08:32] <asac> install mozplugger
[08:32] <asac> don't install totem-mozilla, but only totem-xine
[08:32] <asac> --> things will work :)
[08:34] <asac> that gives some great new ideas :)
[08:47] <hjmf> tested mozplugger; not sure what it does, but now i can view http://www.apple.com/itunes/ads with totem plugin
[08:52] <asac> how?
[08:52] <asac> totem-xine
[08:52] <asac> if you have mozplugger you don't even need
[08:52] <asac> totem-mozilla :)
[08:52] <asac> and restyle crash will be gone
[08:52] <asac> its funny
[08:52] <asac> try it
[08:52] <hjmf> ok
[08:53] <asac> the whole totem standard window gets pushed into that embed window :)
[09:02] <hjmf> in my case seems that is mplayer what plays the video
[09:04] <asac> uninstall all mozilla plugins :)
[09:04] <asac> e.g. remove mozilla-mplayer
[09:05] <asac> hjmf: i guess you attached the wrong threadstacktrace for bug 97478 right?
[09:05] <ubotu> Malone bug 97478 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed [@IA__g_signal_emit_valist] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97478
[09:06] <asac> Bug 60147
[09:06] <ubotu> Malone bug 60147 in firefox "saved firefox resumes as if crashed" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/60147
[09:07] <asac> -> dup of crash on instant x shutdown
[09:07] <hjmf> looking
[09:08] <hjmf> that stacktrace was curious but is the one on that crash, because I post them from a script, so no chances for a mistake. I'll review anyway
[09:09] <asac> hmmm maybe unexpected content in result confused your script :)
[09:09] <asac> anyway, more important: bug 97257
[09:09] <ubotu> Malone bug 97257 in firefox "Upgrade to Firefox 2.0.0.3 causes xine plugin to crash Firefox" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97257
[09:09] <asac> do we see that: "whenever playing video it crashes" ?
[09:10] <hjmf> wmv files are always problematic
[09:10] <asac> what problematic?
[09:11] <asac> do they crash?
[09:11] <asac> its really important as user says that it doesn't crash with 2.0.0.2
[09:11] <asac> which would be a no go regression
[09:12] <gnomefreak> asac: can you trust the user to have done the same thing with 2.0.0.2 and .3 as in lets say theme crash did they change themes with 2.0.0.2?
[09:13] <asac> no
[09:13] <asac> but this sounds really to be different
[09:13] <asac> because user says: crashes always
[09:13] <asac> just want to verify that someone can use totem-xine
[09:13] <gnomefreak> edgy?
[09:13] <hjmf> ... Im trying to test with xine-plugin
[09:13] <asac> e.g. for our apple ads
[09:13] <asac> no
[09:14] <asac> on feisty
[09:14] <asac> xine-plugin?
[09:14] <gnomefreak> feisty on the apple ads?
[09:14] <asac> its totem-mozilla with totem-xine
[09:14] <asac> for instance
[09:14] <hjmf> however its named
[09:14] <hjmf> :)
[09:14] <asac> if that works i would feel better
[09:14] <gnomefreak> thats what i use
[09:14] <asac> gnomefreak: e.g. not theme crash
[09:14] <asac> so 2.0.0.3 works? on apple site?
[09:14] <asac> good
[09:14] <asac> with totem-xine?
[09:14] <gnomefreak> i have no problem view the videos
[09:14] <asac> ok
[09:15] <gnomefreak> as long as i dont change themes
[09:15] <gnomefreak> will check again in a few
[09:15] <asac> good ... and you are running latest?
[09:15] <asac> was there a totem update in the last days?
[09:15] <gnomefreak> yes fully updated as of 9am this morning
[09:15] <gnomefreak> its 3:15pm atm
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ok lets prey this builds now
[09:16] <asac> gnomefreak: can you play videos in chroot?
[09:17] <gnomefreak> i should be able to.
[09:18] <asac> hmm doesn't work for me
[09:19] <asac> now i mounted /dev as well
[09:19] <gnomefreak> still cant build it
[09:19] <hjmf>  Message: totemPlugin ctor [0x85846f8] 
[09:19] <hjmf> ** Message: Init mimetype 'video/quicktime' mode 1
[09:19] <hjmf> ** Message: Base URI is 'http://www.apple.com/itunes/'
[09:19] <hjmf> ** Message: Failed to open DBUS session: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session
[09:20] <asac> gnomefreak: what happens?
[09:20] <asac> has neworig finished?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> alot of crap worth of output let me see if i have depends
[09:20] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:20] <asac> ok
[09:21] <asac> so you miss dependencies...ok
[09:21] <asac> that would be the lesser evil :)
[09:21] <asac> hjmf: where do you see that?
[09:21] <asac> hjmf: but no crash?
[09:21] <hjmf> playing apple ads on feisty s  chroot
[09:21] <asac> ah ok
[09:21] <hjmf> no crash, but no video
[09:21] <asac> yeah
[09:22] <asac> have mounted /proc and /dev ?
[09:22] <hjmf> no
[09:22] <asac> i think you need both
[09:22] <asac> in chroot
[09:22] <hjmf> noticed
[09:22] <gnomefreak> hjmf: refresh page
[09:22] <asac> hjmf: like this
[09:22] <asac>  /proc /srv/chroots/feisty2/proc none bind 0 0
[09:22] <hjmf> is what asac said yesterday about dbus and totem :)
[09:22] <asac>  /dev /srv/chroots/feisty2/dev none bind 0 0
[09:23] <asac> ah :) ... yeah ... at least the symptom is the same ... if dbus does fail it doesn't play movie
[09:23] <hjmf> :)
[09:23] <asac> however i don't see such a message in case totem does not play
[09:23] <hjmf> noticed my fstab I had commented out the proc entries
[09:23] <asac> ah
[09:23] <asac> ok
[09:23] <asac> i have mounted both
[09:24] <asac> but still it doesn't play
[09:24] <hjmf> I guess I did that for some reason I dont remember
[09:24] <gnomefreak> asac: http://pastebin.ca/413896
[09:24] <gnomefreak> asac: while your reading ill be right back need smoke
[09:25] <asac> actually my feisty chroot is a bit wierd ... everywhere i can just schroot -cmychrootX -p
[09:25] <asac> and then DISPLAY is set properly
[09:25] <asac> in feisty i have to export DISPLAY=localhost:xxx
[09:25] <asac> just in chroot
[09:25] <asac> yes
[09:25] <asac> gnomefreak:
[09:25] <asac> you have to use a different command :)
[09:26] <asac> there is now bzr cruft in your sourcetree
[09:26] <asac> which you don't want in diff.gz
[09:26] <asac> thus:
[09:26] <asac> use one more option for building:
[09:26] <asac> -i.bzr/
[09:26] <asac> e.g. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -i.bzr/
[09:26] <asac> so the .bzr dir is not recognized during build
[09:27] <asac> sorry i forgot to say that last time :)
[09:27] <gnomefreak> its all good its running lets see how far it gets
[09:27] <gnomefreak> so from now on the -i.bzr is needed in all cases?
[09:27] <hjmf> got rid of the proc error, but cant view those ads because:
[09:28] <hjmf> ** (totem-plugin-viewer:24847): WARNING **: Mimetype 'video/quicktime' doesn't have a handler
[09:28] <hjmf>  don't know how to handle video/x-h264
[09:28] <hjmf> ** Message: totem_embedded_set_error: 'An error occurred', 'The playback of this movie requires the following decoders which are not installed:
[09:28] <hjmf> MPEG-4 AAC decoder
[09:29] <hjmf> :/
[09:29] <gnomefreak> hjmf: libxine-extracodecs?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> comes in handy for those non free formats :)
[09:29] <hjmf> trying
[09:34] <asac> i still get ** (totem-plugin-viewer:9664): WARNING **: Error in bacon_video_widget_play: There is no plugin to handle this movie
[09:34] <asac> in schroot
[09:34] <asac> with totem-xine
[09:34] <asac> while it works well on main desktop
[09:34] <gnomefreak> i get that too sometimes
[09:34] <asac> sometimes?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> give me some time and ill try it. refreshing page sometimes help
[09:35] <gnomefreak> i was getting that on main install not so much chroot
[09:35] <asac> do you get that just in chroot?
[09:35] <asac> or everywhere?
[09:35] <asac> what happens if you get that?
[09:35] <asac> just black screen
[09:35] <gnomefreak> everywhere i beileve but give me a few and ill find out
[09:35] <asac> but totem controls are visible?
[09:35] <asac> thank you
[09:36] <gnomefreak> make that alot of time
[09:36] <gnomefreak> i dont have feisty set up for it yet in chroot. i was getting those warnings in gdb>
[09:36] <gnomefreak> thats why it failed to crash maybe
[09:37] <asac> hmm please try in main install
[09:37] <asac> if you can visit video sites well :)
[09:37] <asac> just to be double sure
[09:37] <gnomefreak> k
[09:37] <hjmf> ok totem fails to play because doesn't know how to play codec h264
[09:37] <gnomefreak> whats the apple site?
[09:38] <hjmf> but installing mozplugger calls (i guess ) ffmpeg which knows how to do it
[09:38] <gnomefreak> mine might be using vlc
[09:38] <asac> i have as well
[09:38] <asac> did that once because i thought it might be related
[09:38] <gnomefreak> i might have to figure out how to set totem as default
[09:41] <asac> totem usually wins
[09:41] <asac> haven't found another plugin that wins mplayer comes second ... same vlc
[09:44] <hjmf> yes, here totem-mozilla when is always the default player whichever other plugin is installed
[09:44] <hjmf> d/when/
[09:45] <gnomefreak> ** Message: Launching: /usr/lib/totem/totem-plugin-viewer --plugin-type narrowspace --user-agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.3 (Ubuntu-feisty) --mimetype video/quicktime --no-controls
[09:45] <asac> yeah thats standard message afaik
[09:45] <gnomefreak> ** (totem-plugin-viewer:31114): WARNING **: Error in bacon_video_widget_play: There is no plugin to handle this movie.
[09:45] <asac> yes ... and does it work?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> this is on main system
[09:46] <gnomefreak> it shows it to start with and when you hit reply it goes black
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ** Message: Viewer state: STOPPED
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ** Message: totem_embedded_set_error: 'An error occurred', 'The movie could not be read.'
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ** Message: NewStream mimetype 'video/quicktime' URL 'http://images.apple.com/itunes/home/images/2007/01/appletv_intro_20070109.mov'
[09:47] <gnomefreak> seeing as we have no real quicktime packages you are gonna get that i would think
[09:47] <hjmf> ... that's what I said :)
[09:47] <hjmf> doesn't know how to play codec h264
[09:47] <hjmf> apple format
[09:47] <asac> wait a sec
[09:47] <asac> bbim
[09:47] <gnomefreak> i dont get that error hjmf
[09:47] <gnomefreak> nothing about codec h264
[09:48] <hjmf> --> video/x-h264
[09:48] <hjmf> At least here
[09:48] <hjmf> with the package you told me :)
[09:48] <gnomefreak> now i see the people
[09:49] <gnomefreak> click to watch new ad
[09:49] <gnomefreak> so i did
[09:49] <hjmf> I had some experience with that and my ipod, I had to recompile myself ffmpeg
[09:49] <hjmf> with aac support and others
[09:49] <gnomefreak> http://www.apple.com/itunes/ads/partycolor/
[09:51] <hjmf> I can view the adds with totem if I select my compiled ffmpeg stuff, but I cant with the default one
[09:51] <gnomefreak> libquicktime0 :)
[09:52] <gnomefreak> libxine1-ffmpeg
[09:52] <gnomefreak> we have a few quicktime things to use atleast try
[09:52] <hjmf> I have them installed
[09:52] <gnomefreak> libxine1-plugins quicktime-utils quicktime-x11utils
[09:52] <hjmf> libxine1-ffmpeg                  1.1.4-2ubuntu3
[09:54] <hjmf> same error MPEG-4 AAC decoder
[09:54] <hjmf> H.264 decoder
[09:54] <hjmf> nevermind I can use my ffmpeg or just mozplugger
[09:54] <hjmf> :)
[09:55] <hjmf> as I use my ffmpeg to transcode movies for my ipod </offtopic> :)
[09:56] <hjmf> see you
[09:56] <gnomefreak> socor?
[09:56] <hjmf> yes
[09:56] <gnomefreak> soccer?
[09:56] <hjmf> yes
[09:56] <hjmf> an important match to classify to the euro-cup
[09:57] <hjmf> not a big opponent but spain is in a semi-crisis of results :)
[09:57] <hjmf> bye
[09:59] <hjmf> I didn't want to close
[09:59] <gnomefreak> that was fast game
[09:59] <hjmf> lol
[10:00] <gnomefreak> have fun
[10:00] <hjmf> thank you
[10:02] <gnomefreak> still cant seem to play it :(
[10:07] <asac> ok sorry
[10:07] <asac> phone call
[10:07] <asac> was here
[10:08] <asac> gnomefreak: so you can't play at all?
[10:08] <asac> hjmf: soccer?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> nope not looking that way i just installed mozplugger lets see
[10:08] <asac> with mozplugger it works
[10:08] <asac> you have to uninstall totem-mozilla
[10:08] <asac> then
[10:09] <asac> and keep totem-xine installed
[10:09] <gnomefreak> i have both
[10:09] <gnomefreak> asac: check so do you im sure
[10:09] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy totem-mozilla than totem-xine
[10:10] <asac> if you have totem-mozilla mozplugger will not kick-in
[10:10] <asac> but you don't have to test that
[10:10] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:10] <asac> i just want to know: does video work?
[10:10] <asac> in feisty
[10:10] <asac> thats my only concern now :)
[10:10] <asac> default video
[10:10] <gnomefreak> its lack of quicktime codecs
[10:10] <asac> aka totem-mozilla
[10:11] <asac> na .. why? it works flawless here on edgy
[10:11] <asac> thats what I fail to understand :(
[10:11] <gnomefreak> well than why would it fail on edgy with a codecs failure
[10:11] <gnomefreak> firefox hold no code for codecs afaik
[10:12] <gnomefreak> s/hold/holds
[10:12] <gnomefreak> firefox just calls player
[10:12] <asac> ?
[10:12] <asac> it does work on edgy
[10:12] <asac> it fails on feisty for you
[10:12] <asac> any other site with video?
[10:13] <asac> gnomefreak: try these
[10:13] <asac> http://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/
[10:13] <asac> those are mpgs
[10:13] <gnomefreak> not tried yet but im betting its strictly quicktime. i dont do videos much so i dont have links laying around i will ask a few people for video links
[10:17] <asac> do those work?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> was i part of that split?
[10:21] <asac> yeah
[10:21] <asac> you have been away
[10:21] <asac> do those work?
[10:21] <asac> http://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/
[10:21] <asac> ?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> only opening them in totem not the plugin
[10:22] <asac> so its completely broken
[10:22] <gnomefreak> right click and choose open in movie player
[10:23] <asac> that does not help a lot
[10:23] <asac> its completely unacceptable that embedded video is broken
[10:23] <asac> do you have epiphany?
[10:23] <asac> is it broken there too?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> i agree but is it fireefox or plugins
[10:23] <asac> package: epiphany-browser
[10:23] <gnomefreak> i dont think i have it atm
[10:24] <gnomefreak> nope not yet
[10:24] <asac> i hope its plugin ... otherwise i don't see what's going on
[10:24] <asac> firefox 2.0.0.3 was just tiny
[10:24] <asac> difference
[10:24] <asac> but i know: totem 2.18 has major rewrite of plugin layer
[10:24] <gnomefreak> its installing
[10:24] <asac> thanks
[10:24] <gnomefreak> than i blame plugin
[10:25] <asac> i know that totem developers test more on epiphany
[10:25] <asac> who knows
[10:25] <asac> why did it went unseen so long?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> mojor overwrite > tiny security fixes
[10:25] <gnomefreak> weve been testing in edgy chroots?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0.3 is only a day old in ubuntu?
[10:25] <asac> thats why i think maybe its still firefox problem
[10:26] <asac> yes if its a plugin problem then 2.0.0.3 should not matter
[10:26] <gnomefreak> it worked in 2.0.0.2 in feisty?
[10:26] <asac> i don't know!!! AND THAT IS REALLY BAD :)
[10:26] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:26] <asac> gnomefreak: can you please try i mplayer works?
[10:26] <asac> do you still have 2.0.0.2 in cache?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> no
[10:27] <gnomefreak> dont know how to do it in mplayer
[10:27] <gnomefreak> but let me test epiphany-browser first :)
[10:27] <gnomefreak> about 10 minutes ill be ready to test
[10:27] <gnomefreak> maybe download the movie and open it in mplayer?
[10:27] <asac> mplayer: install mozilla-mplayer
[10:28] <asac> + uninstall totem
[10:28] <asac> then it should work
[10:28] <gnomefreak> oh
[10:28] <asac> no
[10:28] <asac> it should work embedded
[10:28] <asac> for us it just matters if it works embedded
[10:28] <gnomefreak> ok ill try in a bit.
[10:29] <gnomefreak> see what bothers me is its calling the plugin to play it but plugin is failing (read teh output when ran from term.
[10:30] <gnomefreak> make that like 20mintues i stopped it to add -extentions package
[10:31] <asac> ok
[10:31] <asac> mplayer works fine
[10:31] <asac> thats good
[10:31] <asac> at least plugins are not completely broken
[10:31] <asac> but totem plugin is
[10:31] <asac> and thats really bad
[10:31] <asac> its default ... please verify that mplayer works anyway :)
[10:31] <asac> we have to be extra sure
[10:31] <asac> otherwise we hunt down the wrong track
[10:34] <gnomefreak> did you try trunk build?
[10:34] <asac> no why?
[10:34] <asac> its not that important
[10:34] <gnomefreak> if it doesnt work in trunk its a good chance its plugin issue
[10:34] <asac> hmm
[10:35] <asac> it definitly is
[10:35] <gnomefreak> it has to be plugin
[10:35] <gnomefreak> firefox has nothing to do with embedded video
[10:35] <gnomefreak> dirctly
[10:36] <gnomefreak> testing epiphany
[10:36] <gnomefreak> thats a bug :(
[10:36] <asac> why has firefox nothing to do with embedded video?
[10:36] <asac> firefox provides everything around the window of totem
[10:37] <asac> so both can contribute to failure
[10:37] <asac> so you don't have ffox 2.0.0.2 somewhere around?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> only in edgy chroot
[10:38] <gnomefreak> im gonna try to get it for feisty chroot when i get a chance to set it up right
[10:39] <asac> ok
[10:39] <asac> 2007-03-27  Published  feisty   Release  main  gnome  2.18.0-0ubuntu2
[10:39] <asac> so yesterday both were updated
[10:39] <asac> e.g. firefox + totem
[10:39] <asac> so it might be indeed a totem regression
[10:39] <gnomefreak> ah yes i think totem was
[10:39] <asac> however 2.18
[10:40] <asac> was already in archive before
[10:40] <gnomefreak> epiphany seems to be failing
[10:40] <gnomefreak> correct
[10:40] <gnomefreak> but a patch that was added could have caused this fault
[10:40] <asac> so it is likely due to ubuntu maintainers ... if its totem fault at all
[10:41] <asac>  80_from_svn_fix_codec_installation_when_subtitles_are_used.dpatch:
[10:41] <asac>     - fix codec installation when subtitles are used (Ubuntu: #89302)
[10:41] <asac> ok
[10:41] <gnomefreak> epiphany home page is a kubuntu one :(
[10:41] <asac> i will try to disable that patch and see
[10:41] <gnomefreak> when was that patch added?
[10:42] <asac> yesterday
[10:42] <asac> thats the only change they did
[10:42] <asac> so if it still fails after removing then we are to blame
[10:43] <asac> sad thing i cannot even say if it works or not
[10:43] <asac> it never worked for feisty for me
[10:43] <asac> but lets see
[10:43] <asac> now i have /dev mounted as well
[10:43] <asac> and mplayer works in chroot
[10:43] <asac> so probably it will
[10:44] <asac> does totem-gstreamer fail for you the same?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> never used it
[10:44] <gnomefreak> would need w32codecs most likely
[10:44] <asac> you reproduced crashes
[10:44] <asac> didn't you?
[10:44] <asac> so it worked at some point
[10:44] <gnomefreak> yeah
[10:44] <asac> you know when ?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> dont know it crashed
[10:45] <gnomefreak> theme changes you dont need it to really play just attempt to load
[10:45] <gnomefreak> the apple ads worked sort of
[10:45] <gnomefreak> unless they are that short to start with
[10:53] <gnomefreak> on wtf :(
[10:56] <gnomefreak> asac: if you get a minute open file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-%l.html in a browser in feisty and tell me what the page looks like. is it welcome to kubuntu
[11:04] <gnomefreak> s/on/oh
[11:09] <asac> what is %l ?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> dont know
[11:09] <asac> what do you have there?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> is there a less cryptic way we can do this? the running apport on local end that hjmf wrote up?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> welcome to kubuntu
[11:10] <asac> you have to replace %l with your language of choice
[11:11] <gnomefreak> it open english just fine but the kubuntu home page inside ubuntu-artwork or even on a gnome browser is kind of ass backwards
[11:28] <asac> gnomefreak: can you do me one last favor and see if totem-gstreamer doesn't work for you at all?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ok what gstreamer packages do i need and do you want to test with w32codecs installed?
[11:30] <asac> you won't need to
[11:30] <asac> playing mpg would be good enough to begin with
[11:30] <asac> totem-gstreamer
[11:30] <gnomefreak> looking at restricted link
[11:30] <asac> instead of totem-xine
[11:32] <gnomefreak> The best support for MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 (for example, encoded with DivX, XviD or FFmpeg MPEG-4), QuickTime and other proprietary or non-free media formats is currently provided by Totem-xine, Kaffeine, gxine, and MPlayer.
[11:32] <gnomefreak> give me a few minutes i have gstreamer installing
[11:32] <asac> anyway
[11:32] <asac> cool
[11:33] <gnomefreak> it built :)
[11:36] <gnomefreak> its playing fine
[11:36] <gnomefreak> http://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/p827v.mpg
[11:36] <asac> really?
[11:36] <asac> aha
[11:36] <asac> good
[11:36] <asac> and how about ... apple ads?
[11:36] <asac> guess you need w32codecs
[11:37] <gnomefreak> give me a while that package is huge
[11:38] <gnomefreak> 14M
[11:38] <gnomefreak> about 40minutes
[11:39] <asac> where is w32codecs?
[11:39] <asac> i cannot find :)
[11:42] <gnomefreak> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[11:43] <gnomefreak> i might have the deb on my site but i cant remember
[11:43] <asac> thx
[11:43] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:43] <gnomefreak> 6.5kbps :(
[11:44] <asac> ha :)
[11:44] <asac> not suitable for amd64
[11:44] <asac> as usual
[11:44] <gnomefreak> correct
[11:44] <gnomefreak> but wait
[11:44] <gnomefreak> i might have something for you
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Users of x86 or x86_64, systems may also install some  additional Windows codecs that are available in the third-party repository of [WWW]  Medibuntu.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> let me get the medibuntu link
[11:44] <asac> oh no :)
[11:45] <gnomefreak> see http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[12:11] <gnomefreak> ok what apple vids did you want to test
[12:14] <gnomefreak> not looking like it will play it
[12:14] <gnomefreak> with w32codecs
[12:17] <gnomefreak> no it doesnt seem to play but i need gstreamer packages.
[12:23] <asac> ok its official
[12:23] <asac> totem-xine is broken
[12:23] <asac> upstream
[12:23] <gnomefreak> i get sound no video :(
[12:24] <asac> in what?
[12:24] <asac> gstreamer?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> on apple ads
[12:24] <gnomefreak> yeah
[12:24] <asac> ok fine
[12:24] <asac> can you still crash?
[12:24] <asac> :)
[12:24] <asac> theme switch
[12:24] <asac> ?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> i installed all needed gstreamer plugins too
[12:24] <gnomefreak> oh hell i dont know
[12:24] <asac> e.g. listen to speech
[12:24] <gnomefreak> i totally forgot the testcase on that but lets see what i can do
[12:24] <asac> switch  clip
[12:24] <asac> listen again
[12:24] <asac> then switch theme
[12:25] <gnomefreak> yay i got video :(
[12:25] <gnomefreak> no crash it seems
[12:26] <gnomefreak> i did it 2 times and no crash