[01:32] <williammanda> i figured out my database problem.....
[01:33] <williammanda> the masterbackend still has some program info from a slave backend in removed
[01:34] <williammanda> the programs no longer exist...but the database still has the info
[01:35] <williammanda> how can i get rid of the old program info?
[01:35] <williammanda> crap i can't type tonight....to much drugs :)
[01:36] <williammanda> the masterbackend still has some program info from a slave backend I removed
[01:36] <williammanda> thats better!
[02:39] <williammanda> .
[02:48] <Xenocide> superm1 for mythvideo and other plugins do i set those all up through the frontend?
[03:16] <Xenocide> im running an x300
[03:16] <Xenocide> stll an ati card
[03:17] <majoridiot> trying to config for a monitor and a tv out...
[03:17] <Xenocide> hm
[03:17] <Xenocide> i never had to configure anything
[03:17] <majoridiot> two diff. resolutions- tv for myth of course
[03:17] <Xenocide> did you cold boot with svideo attached?
[03:18] <Xenocide> oh i haven't tried it with both attached
[03:18] <majoridiot> composite
[03:18] <majoridiot> old tv, no svideo
[03:18] <Xenocide> h
[03:18] <Xenocide> getting any output?
[03:18] <majoridiot> yeah... i can just set the res to 640x480 60 hz
[03:18] <majoridiot> and it clones the desktop to the tv
[03:18] <majoridiot> which works ok
[03:19] <Xenocide> but you want a diff resolution on monitor
[03:19] <majoridiot> but not what i want
[03:19] <Xenocide> i was never able to do that with my x1600 on my laptop
[03:19] <Xenocide> i tried
[03:19] <majoridiot> i've found some xorg.confs which claim to work... and they do, but the frontend crashes immediately
[03:19] <majoridiot> fp error.  core dump.
[03:19] <Xenocide> hm no clue
[03:20] <majoridiot> eh... it works well enough, and is a lark, really.  i never watch tv in the licingroom anyway.
[03:20] <majoridiot> LOL @ licingroom
[03:20] <majoridiot> should be de-licing room.
[03:21] <majoridiot> i'll wait and see if the restricted manager does a better job in feisty.
[03:35] <Xenocide> hey majoridiot is the mythvideo preferences in the frontend
[03:35] <Xenocide> *are
[03:35] <williammanda>  i figured out my database problem.....
[03:36] <williammanda> the masterbackend still has some program info from a slave backend I removed
[03:36] <williammanda> the programs no longer exist...but the database still has the info
[03:36] <williammanda> how can i get rid of the old program info?
[03:37] <parag0n__> hey guys, does anyone have any recommendations for DVB-T cards for use with ubuntu & mythtv?
[03:38] <williammanda> http://www.dvico.com/default_e.asp
[03:39] <williammanda> look here too
[03:39] <williammanda> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_devices
[03:40] <parag0n__> thanks :)
[04:01] <majoridiot> setup >> media settings >> videos settings
[04:03] <majoridiot> you should be able to fix your database with phpmyadmin, williammanda
[04:05] <williammanda> setup >> media settings >> videos settings...i don't have this
[04:06] <majoridiot> you installed it on the frontend, right?
[04:06] <williammanda> i repaired and optimized both mysql & mythconver databases
[04:06] <williammanda> i have 3 frontends installed
[04:07] <majoridiot> sorry... that setup post was meant for xen.
[04:08] <majoridiot> not familiar with your problem, williammanda... what are the missing video causing to go wrong?
[04:10] <williammanda> apparently the database still has video programs from a slave backend that i have removed
[04:10] <majoridiot> yes.  and?
[04:10] <williammanda> not the actual programs but the info for them in the database
[04:10] <majoridiot> yes
[04:11] <majoridiot> what is the gripe?
[04:11] <majoridiot> do you show blank records in the library of what?
[04:11] <majoridiot> or
[04:11] <williammanda> i would like to get rid of the programs from showing up each time
[04:12] <majoridiot> showing up where?
[04:12] <majoridiot> i understand what has happened... just not what your complaint is.  symptoms?  etc.
[04:13] <williammanda> all the shows that are not really there are still showing up when i go to watch recorded shows
[04:13] <majoridiot> ah
[04:13] <majoridiot> ok
[04:14] <majoridiot> that happened to me once
[04:14] <williammanda> also I have the old tuner still showing when i goto info center - system status - tuners
[04:15] <majoridiot> you should be able to delete the old tuner in backend setup
[04:15] <majoridiot> as for the video problem...
[04:16] <majoridiot> i intentionally tried to play every one of the missing videos one after another...
[04:16] <williammanda> i setup the tuner in the mythtv-setup that is gone now....i'm not following you
[04:16] <majoridiot> and then too the error messages from the backend log...
[04:16] <majoridiot> to get the filenames it was looking for...
[04:16] <majoridiot> created dummy files with a script...
[04:16] <majoridiot> and then just deleted them with the frontend.
[04:20] <williammanda> if i create a tuner on a slave backend.....the info gets stored in the database...
[04:20] <majoridiot> sorry... distracted
[04:20] <majoridiot> anyway, the unwanted tuner should still show in the masterbackend mythtv-setup
[04:20] <williammanda> but the tuner can't be changed on the master backend...only on the slave backend it was created on correct?
[04:21] <williammanda> mine don't
[04:21] <majoridiot> not sure about that.  seems pointless if not.
[04:21] <williammanda> the master backend only shows the tuner that was installed on it
[04:21] <williammanda> the point is....
[04:22] <williammanda> i was trying to get rid of the old tuner from showing up when i viewed it under system status
[04:23] <majoridiot> just delete it drom the db with phpmyadmin then
[04:26] <williammanda> is it that simple?
[04:26] <majoridiot> should be
[04:26] <majoridiot> i've taken out things without tons of foreknowledge
[04:27] <williammanda> :)
[04:27] <majoridiot> just look around... the interface is pretty good and the db has a logical structure
[05:56] <Uberbot> Hi all.
[05:57] <Uberbot> Quick question.
[05:57] <Uberbot> Which is better, s-vid or composite?
[06:01] <superm1> svid generally
[07:28] <Uberbot> Thanx.
[04:16] <superm1> keescook, there are two +1's on this UVFe, if someone doesn't get around to it - can you: bug 74483
[04:16] <ubotu> Malone bug 74483 in ivtv "UVFe: Include ivtv 0.10 utilities" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74483
[04:25] <Xenocide> mmm off to math class
[04:25] <Xenocide> peace!
[04:28] <superm1> seee ya Xenocide
[04:29] <gardengnome> no more school for me since today :)
[04:46] <keescook> superm1: ivit looks good, I'll get it uploaded.  Does mythtv need another upload to fix the msttfonts issue?
[04:47] <superm1> yes, i had another issue i was working on to put with it (some fixes to the mysql issues people get if they put the wrong root password), but probably better for you to just put the msttcorefonts in as is here in case i dont finish it soon
[04:48] <superm1> keescook, its kinda good this was eye opening because mythtv-frontend and mythtv-backend both needed it (not just ubuntu-mythtv-frontend)
[04:48] <keescook> superm1: wow, backend needs it?  that's weird!
[04:48] <superm1> well for mythtv-setup :)
[04:48] <keescook> aaaah
[04:49] <superm1> all the themes that i have been using didnt need a thing, but a bunch of the ones with the package do
[04:49] <superm1> i never noticed since i always used other themes :)
[04:49] <keescook> superm1: BTW: for opening new versions in bzr, instead of "feisty" use "UNRELEASED" until a given changelog publishes; just so we know where things stand when looking at a bzr branch (assuming I remember to push!)  :)
[04:50] <keescook> heh
[04:50] <superm1> k
[04:51] <superm1> keescook, i am going to hack at my debconf changes here for mysql the next few days depending how school goes this week, i'll get your input this weekend about it hopefully
[04:51] <keescook> okay, cool.  I'll publish the mstt thingy now just so people have their menus back.  :)
[04:51] <superm1> good call
[04:52] <superm1> k im gonna have to run: class is over, catch up with you later
[05:41] <teknopagan> Hiya, folks
[05:42] <teknopagan> I'm working on building a Myth system for my parents - the plan is to go with a backend server in the basement and multiple frontends spread through the house
[05:42] <teknopagan> Having a little trouble picking the hardware, though
[05:44] <teknopagan> The main problem is this - They have DirecTV at home, and I'm not sure which tuner cards to use
[05:45] <teknopagan> I know I'll need two dual-tuner cards, and I'm thinking I'll want one dual-tuner HD card and one dual tuner SD card - but again, I'm not sure which one would be best for my situation - any advice?
[05:49] <teknopagan> For the SD card, I'll probably go with a Hauppauge PVR-500MCE, I'm just looking for some advice on the HD card
[05:52] <teknopagan> Anybody here?
[07:57] <madhatter_> hey
[07:57] <superm1> hello
[07:57] <madhatter_> is the wintv go card suported
[07:58] <superm1> Hm.  actually i'm not entirely sure
[07:58] <madhatter_> i found this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-Go
[07:58] <madhatter_> but i have no clue wht it means
[07:59] <superm1> it appears it should be supported fine
[07:59] <teknopagan> Holy moly, there's people talking in here?
[07:59] <madhatter_> straight out or i have to do some fixes my self
[07:59] <teknopagan> Wowza
[08:00] <teknopagan> Either of you have any advice on a dual-tuner HD card?
[08:00] <madhatter_> also can i install ubuntu then install mythtv
[08:01] <superm1> madhatter_, it appears that it is right out of hte box supported according to that page
[08:01] <superm1> madhatter_, if you have any difficulties though, either us or #mythtv-users would be glad to help
[08:01] <teknopagan> Specifically, I'd love to find one that can handle either DirecTV or Dish Network signal without an STB
[08:01] <superm1> teknopagan, dual tuner HD for Satellite doesn't exist unfort
[08:01] <superm1> teknopagan, neither does single tuner HD for sat
[08:02] <superm1> the only methods for HD capture in the US are via over the air, QAM cable, or firewire
[08:02] <teknopagan> Not even for Dish Network? If I understand correctly, Dish uses standard DVB-S
[08:02] <superm1> and no known satellite receiver has firewire on it
[08:02] <superm1> teknopagan, if thats the case and its not encrypted
[08:02] <superm1> teknopagan, but i would imagine encrypted - because thats what your access card is for
[08:03] <superm1> in the satellite receiver
[08:03] <teknopagan> Rough. What about digital cable?
[08:03] <teknopagan> Is it also limited to only unencrypted channels?
[08:03] <superm1> if your cable company doesnt add 5C encryption to firewire, your in the clear
[08:03] <superm1> but anything 5C encrypted = no
[08:04] <superm1> and most cable companies encrypt all the QAM stuff too (that you would do without a digital box, but with a HD5000 or air2pc card)
[08:04] <teknopagan> Blech. When is somebody going to come out with a CableCard adapter for PC...
[08:04] <teknopagan> That would be shweet.
[08:04] <madhatter_> hwo do i check if my tv card works in linux
[08:05] <superm1> madhatter_, easiest way will be to install tvtime
[08:05] <superm1> and try it with that
[08:05] <superm1> its a very easy installation
[08:16] <madhatter_> i got it installed
[08:16] <madhatter_> but no audio
[08:35] <madhatter_> hey
[08:35] <madhatter_> anybody here now
[08:36] <superm1> hey madhatter_
[08:36] <superm1> sorry i'm just about to be leaving
[08:36] <superm1> didnt see your post before
[08:37] <superm1> i should be back on within 1-2 hours though
[08:37] <madhatter_> quick
[08:37] <superm1> sure
[08:37] <madhatter_> is there an easy way to install mythtv on ubuntu
[08:37] <superm1> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[08:37] <superm1> i wrote the dapper and edgy guides there.  majoridiot is working on the feisty ones ATM
[08:39] <madhatter_> thnx
[08:39] <superm1> catch ya later
[09:26] <[g2] > I hear there might be a livecd soon. I'm running feisty with a pvr-500 card here for DVR stuff
[09:26] <[g2] > I'm also hacking the apple TV and want to put a feisty myth liike front-end on the box
[09:42] <tgm4883> Hi
[09:43] <tgm4883> Felt weird throwing a question out there without at least saying hi, but with a PVR-150 that has the IR receiver that connects to that card, do I have to use the PVR-150 remote with that IR receiver or can I use a different remote.  The PVR-150 remote feels kinda cheap
[09:48] <gardengnome> umm.
[09:49] <gardengnome> it should be possible. i've heard that those receivers will only take RC5 or RC6 input, though.
[09:53] <tgm4883> RC5 or RC6 input?
[09:54] <gardengnome> http://www.elzet80.com/rc5.htm
[09:55] <tgm4883> ah that makes sense, dont know why but when you said RC6 I was thinking of RG6 cable
[09:55] <tgm4883> its just one of those days
[09:56] <tgm4883> would I be better off getting a usb/serial/parallel IR receiver?
[10:44] <fir3__> hi
[10:47] <tgm4883> hi
[11:10] <madhatter349> hey
[11:11] <madhatter349> anybody here
[11:28] <madhatter349> hello
[11:28] <madhatter349> anybdoy here
[11:29] <tgm4883> yea
[11:30] <madhatter349> i keep on getting this error
[11:30] <madhatter349> E: mythtv-database: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:30] <madhatter349> E: mythtv: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:30] <tgm4883> lots of people, who check back periodically
[11:30] <madhatter349> im trying to install mythtv
[11:30] <tgm4883> using a guide?
[11:30] <madhatter349> ya
[11:30] <tgm4883> which one
[11:31] <madhatter349> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop
[11:31] <madhatter349> do u have a better one for a newb
[11:32] <tgm4883> nope, i would have pointed you to that one
[11:32] <madhatter349> what am i doing wrong
[11:33] <madhatter349> i keep on re installing from ynaptic Package Manager
[11:33] <tgm4883> wait awhile and someone should check back and be able to help you with your problem
[11:33] <tgm4883> did you start the guide from the beginning?
[11:33] <tgm4883> or did you already have  a desktop setup
[11:33] <madhatter349> begging
[11:34] <tgm4883> try doing it from the command line instead of synaptic
[11:35] <madhatter349> ok
[11:35] <madhatter349> hwo do i do that
[11:35] <madhatter349> im a newb
[11:35] <tgm4883> dont forget to close synaptic first
[11:35] <tgm4883> which step are you on?
[11:35] <madhatter349> well i want to start over agin obviously i made a mistake
[11:36] <madhatter349> so i just reinstalled the mysql
[11:37] <keescook> superm1: ivtv and mythtv published.  Also, when marking bugs in the changelog, please use (LP
[11:37] <madhatter349> i just uninstalled all the mythtv stuff
[11:37] <keescook>   (LP: #nnn, #nnn)
[11:37] <madhatter349> do u have a tut for doing it threw command line
[11:38] <keescook> so that it is different from (Closes: #nnn) which is what Debian uses.
[11:41] <madhatter349> tgm u there
[11:42] <tgm4883> hmm, so you got that error when you went to install mysql-server, mythtv-frontend, mythtv-backend, and mythtv-database
[11:42] <tgm4883> yea im trying to find the step that caused your erro
[11:42] <madhatter349> only database
[11:42] <tgm4883> r
[11:42] <madhatter349> k
[11:43] <tgm4883> you only installed the database and not the rest?
[11:43] <madhatter349> all
[11:43] <tgm4883> at the same time?
[11:44] <madhatter349> ya
[11:44] <tgm4883> cause when mythtv installs it adds the database to mysql and sets that up
[11:44] <madhatter349> so in the synaptic thing what is the only thing i should install
[11:45] <tgm4883> you should install all 4 things under "Install MythTV" in the guide, check all of those and then hit apply
[11:45] <madhatter349> k
[11:45] <madhatter349> now it ask for the password
[11:46] <madhatter349> for the mysql root
[11:46] <madhatter349> whats the answer
[11:46] <tgm4883> right, and the rootpassword should be left blank, (unless you changed it to something else, which if you followed the guide you shouldn't have)  It is not the same as your sudo password
[11:46] <madhatter349> k
[11:47] <madhatter349> k
[11:47] <madhatter349> now i should follow the guid
[11:47] <madhatter349> dame
[11:47] <tgm4883> any errors?
[11:47] <madhatter349> damm still get the error
[11:47] <madhatter349> E: mythtv-database: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:47] <madhatter349> E: mythtv: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:48] <tgm4883> ok
[11:48] <madhatter349> should i uninstall the mysql stuff and then do the mythtv
[11:48] <tgm4883> brb
[11:48] <madhatter349> any clue
[11:50] <tgm4883> it doesn't give any other info about what dependencies are missing?
[11:52] <madhatter349> how do i cop the details
[11:52] <madhatter349> copy from the details
[11:53] <tgm4883> just a sec
[11:53] <madhatter349> it says it cant connect to local mysql database
[11:54] <madhatter349> and host authentication failed
[11:55] <tgm4883> i found a similar problem in the ubuntu forums with a solution from superm1, let me give you the link
[11:55] <tgm4883> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop#head-2ca13596b08d7736a909ba52b4bffd2b547fb4f4
[11:55] <madhatter349> k let me see
[11:55] <tgm4883> follow the thing about the root password failing
[11:56] <madhatter349> this one
[11:56] <madhatter349> Access denied for user: 'root@localhost'
[11:56] <tgm4883> yea
[11:58] <madhatter349> i get Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[11:58] <tgm4883> majoridiot, could you help real quick?
[11:59] <tgm4883> on which step?
[11:59] <madhatter349> mysql -u root mysql
[11:59] <majoridiot> sure....
[11:59] <majoridiot> sec...
[12:00] <majoridiot> 'sup?
[12:00] <tgm4883> madhatter349 is getting the following error when following the edgy backend, frontend, desktop guide
[12:00] <tgm4883> 	<madhatter349>	E: mythtv-database: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:01] <tgm4883> 	<madhatter349>	E: mythtv: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:01] <majoridiot> on installation?
[12:01] <madhatter349> ya
[12:01] <tgm4883> i searched a little on the error and found one reference to it on the ubuntu forums from superm1
[12:01] <majoridiot> link please?
[12:02] <madhatter349> i get those 2 errors when installing during Synaptic Package Manager
[12:02] <tgm4883> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320027&page=2 post #19
[12:03] <tgm4883> when following that though, he gets Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:04] <majoridiot> minute... phone.
[12:04] <tgm4883> k
[12:05] <madhatter349> thanks
[12:06] <tgm4883> majoridiot should be able to help, he does the documentation on the guide
[12:07] <madhatter349> k
[12:07] <madhatter349> thnx
[12:08] <majoridiot> ok... catch me up here...
[12:08] <tgm4883> ok
[12:08] <madhatter349> should i
[12:08] <majoridiot> are you having problems installing or configuring?
[12:09] <madhatter349> installing
[12:09] <majoridiot> k
[12:09] <majoridiot> at what point does it fail?
[12:09] <madhatter349> when im in Synaptic Package Manager i get 2 errors  <madhatter349> E: mythtv-database: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:09] <madhatter349>  <madhatter349> E: mythtv: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:10] <madhatter349> when installing the database
[12:10] <majoridiot> which packages are you selecting to install?
[12:10] <madhatter349> mythtv-database
[12:10] <majoridiot> only?
[12:10] <madhatter349> mythtv-frontend, mythtv-backend, and mythtv-database
[12:10] <majoridiot> k
[12:10] <madhatter349> mysql-server
[12:11] <majoridiot> did you have mysql server installed before?
[12:11] <madhatter349> umm
[12:11] <madhatter349> dont remeber dont think so
[12:11] <majoridiot> k
[12:12] <madhatter349> ive reinstalled it get the same error
[12:13] <majoridiot> you are installing frontend, backend and regular desktop from that guide?
[12:14] <madhatter349> Backend Frontend Desktop
[12:14] <majoridiot> k
[12:14] <majoridiot> in synaptic, choose to *mark for complete removal* the following:
[12:15] <majoridiot> mythtv-frontend mythtv-backend mythtv-database mysql-server
[12:15] <madhatter349> k
[12:15] <majoridiot> and then apply
[12:16] <madhatter349> what about mythtv-common
[12:17] <majoridiot> it should be removed with the back or front...
[12:17] <majoridiot> check to be sure it is after you apply.
[12:17] <majoridiot> search for mythtv and then mysql to see if any residual packages are left over
[12:18] <madhatter349> k
[12:18] <madhatter349> done
[12:18] <majoridiot> k
[12:18] <majoridiot> are you ok using a terminal for command-line operations?
[12:18] <madhatter349> mysql-client is still there
[12:19] <madhatter349> yes terminal
[12:19] <majoridiot> l
[12:19] <majoridiot> k
[12:20] <majoridiot> ls -l -a in your home dir
[12:20] <majoridiot> see if there is a hidden .mythtv folder
[12:20] <majoridiot> never mind... you never got that far LOL
[12:21] <madhatter349> i guess not
[12:21] <majoridiot> ok see if there is an /etc/mysql folder
[12:21] <madhatter349> i see mysql history
[12:22] <majoridiot> np
[12:22] <majoridiot> sec...
[12:22] <majoridiot> ok, try another install... but first
[12:22] <majoridiot> do:
[12:22] <majoridiot> sudo usermod -a -G mythtv YOURUSERNAME
[12:23] <majoridiot> putting in your regular user name
[12:23] <madhatter349> my username
[12:23] <majoridiot> your regular logon account
[12:23] <madhatter349> k
[12:23] <madhatter349> done
[12:23] <majoridiot> k
[12:23] <majoridiot> log out, log back in as your reg usr
[12:23] <madhatter349> now i should go into synaptic
[12:23] <madhatter349> k
[12:23] <madhatter349> 1 sec
[12:24] <madhatter349> back
[12:25] <madhatter349> what should i do now
[12:25] <majoridiot> now try the synaptic install again
[12:25] <madhatter349> k
[12:25] <madhatter349> hopefully it works
[12:25] <majoridiot> mythtv-frontend mythtv-backend mysql-server
[12:25] <madhatter349> what should i install in it
[12:25] <madhatter349> k
[12:25] <madhatter349> only those 3
[12:25] <majoridiot> AND
[12:25] <majoridiot> mythtv-database
[12:26] <majoridiot> (sorry... sneezing fit)
[12:26] <madhatter349> what about common and plain mythtv