[12:22] nope maxamillion that is NOTICE [12:22] ok hitting it twice hold on [12:22] Ok there that did it [12:23] Shaba1: awesome .... as far as how to get rid of ChatZilla, i'm really not sure ... i've never done that [12:23] hmmm [12:23] Shaba1: settings | preferred applications is probably what you want [12:24] is chatzilla a firefox extension? [12:24] ormiret: yes [12:24] Tools->Addons then and you can uninstall from there [12:25] nope nothing under Tools-Addons in firefox [12:27] I *think* what happened is that I chose chatzilla from Add/Remove Applications window( which I suppose is just a front end for Symaptic) and it install mozilla along with it. [12:27] No big problem [12:27] but I would like to get rid of them both [12:27] I will just have to get use to xchat === Qew [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] Guys thanks [12:32] I am not a total newbie [12:32] infact I am a windows systems administrator for a small nonprofit [12:32] you could have installed chatzilla inside firefox, and probably still can :) === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:33] but if you prefer xchat, that's cool. [12:33] I built thier 28 workstation and 1 server network [12:33] if you want to make firefox your default browser, you can do it in settings, i believe. [12:33] Wired the whole thing with cat 5 cable myself [12:33] but linux is a whole new world to me [12:33] rici thanks [12:34] I got rid of chatzilla,mozilla and composer [12:34] shaba1: you ever get xubuntu running on the laptop? [12:34] using the Add/Rimove program apple [12:34] yep sigmamu188 I am talking to you from it right now [12:34] :) [12:34] tight [12:34] were you able to use gparted to resize the ntfs partition [12:34] sigmamu188: wheeler? [12:34] It only took me from 8am Sunday to 4 am monday to do it too :) [12:35] whats up miller? [12:35] yep [12:35] sigmamu188: nodda bro, just workin' [12:35] I had to download and burn a live cd of gparted [12:35] maxamillion: so just sitting at a computer watching webcams [12:36] now the thing is when and if I need the space back will it resize that ntfs partiton and FILESYSTEM without me losing windwos [12:36] Shaba1: to put a link on the desktop, by the way, you just drag it. [12:36] windows [12:36] really [12:36] hold on rici [12:36] let me try that [12:36] sigmamu188: well, yes and no ... i'm supposed to be writing some software and working on some other server project but the boss left 30 minutes ago so i am just manning the phones and the irc channels :) [12:36] wait rici you mean a appication shortcut [12:36] so do you still have windows running on the comp too? [12:36] or a web link shourcut [12:36] lol [12:37] Yepper [12:37] cool [12:37] Shaba1: no, i meant a url shortcut [12:37] so just a live cd of gpartedm where did you get it? [12:37] maxamillion: are you going to the formal? [12:37] drag the link from a firefox page, drop it on the desktop, and a dialog should pop up asking you to give it a name [12:37] sigmamu188: yeah, i dual boot because sometimes i have to map to windows shares, printers, or servers and some of that is just more easily done on windows ... but nothing I own runs windows ;) [12:37] I need to reorder the grub menu though but there are instructions on how to do that on the ubuntu site [12:37] sigmamu188: of course! i'll be there all suited up [12:38] sigmamu188, I think the site is www.gparted.org [12:38] maxamillion: me too, im taking jen ram [12:38] I think [12:38] I have it short cuted ??(if that is a word) on my windows machine at home [12:38] I am on the laptop right now [12:39] Shaba1: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ [12:39] !gparted [12:39] GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type sudo apt-get install gparted in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php [12:39] shabal: cool i check it out i need to put a fat 32 swap so i can download and access from window [12:39] :) [12:39] sigmamu188: fat32 swap? ... you mean just a shared partition? [12:39] yea [12:39] that what i mean [12:39] oh ok [12:39] i was a tad confused [12:40] i cant write to the ntfs on my 250g hd [12:40] with linux [12:40] i can access all my movies and music [12:40] sigmamu188: yeah, you can ... but from what i have heard the drivers are a pain [12:40] but i need to be able to run torrent and access files from windows [12:40] sigmamu188: and they aren't stable ... so i recommend a fat32 shared .... i do that at work, keep most of my files on a 120gb shared fat32 partition [12:41] i think im gonna make a 100G fat32 partition [12:41] but i dont want to lose the data on my drive [12:41] can i do that with gparted? [12:42] sigmamu188: yeah, it can resize and it will graphically show you how much already has data on it [12:42] maxamillion: i need you widsom to handle this problem [12:42] maxamillion: im running a nvidia geforce 6800 [12:42] dual head [12:42] I so not thing so sigmamu188 [12:42] and im dual screened on xubuntu [12:42] rici, you still here [12:42] you drage what?? [12:43] sigmamu188: yeah, i have dual 21" HiDef monitors here at work running dual DVI out of a nvidia 7900GTX [12:43] and i cant figure out how to make the dvi output the default moniter [12:43] it always makes the vga the default moniter [12:43] sigmamu188: yeah ... i dunno [12:44] sigmamu188: well, wait .... [12:44] i dont want to use my flat panel the xtra [12:44] ive tried to code twinview [12:44] over and over and over again [12:44] is there a way to map the bus address of the dvi head to be moniter 0 === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [12:45] apposed to the vga as moniter 0 [12:45] sigmamu188: you can either go out and get the newest nvidia drivers yourself or wait 3 weeks for them to be part of feisty, but the new drivers include an updated nvidia-settings application that let you do all that from a gui tool (that is actually nicer than the one the windows huggers use) [12:46] at the nvidia website? [12:46] sigmamu188: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screens/gparted_1_big.jpg <--- check that screenshot, each box is a partition and the yellow is the used space while white it the free space [12:46] sigmamu188: no, lemme get you a link .... there is a third party repo you can just use apt-get or aptitude to install it [12:47] ive used gparted before [12:47] sigmamu188: oh .... [12:47] sigmamu188: i mis-understood the convo then [12:47] brb folks [12:47] i just didn't know that it could resize or write ntfs [12:48] it wouldnt let me do that months ago when i trued to install xubuntu on the old XPS [12:48] sigmamu188: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beta_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 <--- i know it says "beta" but they have been stable since this was written [12:49] hey i just realized you could alt+tab on xubuntu [12:49] Shaba1: you drag the link. [12:49] sigmamu188: with those drivers you can run "sudo nvidia-settings" and it will give you the coolest nvidia gui you've ever seen [12:49] what does that do sigmamu188 [12:49] what link [12:49] rici [12:49] try it [12:49] any link [12:49] what link [12:49] the one you want a desktop shortcut for [12:50] shaba1:just like windows alt+tab [12:50] sigmamu188: you don't have to use those drivers if you don't want to, you could just wait until feisty comes out [12:50] But that is it rici. I wanted to find out how to create a shortcut on the desktop of a web page [12:50] I think you are mising what I said originally [12:50] maxamillion: why can i use gedit [12:50] yes, that's what i'm saying [12:50] cant* [12:51] rici ok right now I am looking at the yahoo page in firefox [12:51] you put the mouse over top of the link to the webpage. push down on the mouse, don't release it. move the mouse until it is over the desktop. release it. [12:51] ther is no link to it [12:51] sigmamu188: oh yeah .... do "gksudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list" ... gedit it a gnome app that is part of ubuntu, not xubuntu [12:51] I am at the very page [12:51] shaba1: right click and select add like [12:51] link* [12:51] then drag it from the url location bar [12:51] sigmamu188: the site is for ubuntu, but all of the stuff applies to xubuntu since xubuntu is based off ubuntu [12:51] maxamillion: thanks your my alphalphanator [12:52] lol [12:52] there is not that choice either sigmamu188 [12:53] there is a send link choice [12:53] Shaba1: like i said, drag it from the url location bar at the top of the ff window [12:53] but looking at the help file that opens up your default email app and lets you email a link to that page to somone [12:53] shaba1: are you trying to add to desktop? [12:54] the icon beside the url, actually. [12:54] url or address rice [12:54] rici but I got it now [12:55] if you hold your mouse over the icon, a tooltip will pop up telling you that, too. [12:55] uhmmmm..... wow: http://www.linutop.com/ [12:55] you can drag any link. bookmarks, tabs, fave bar, links in a webpage. try it. :) [12:55] ok thanks [12:56] brb [12:56] cool the alt+tab follows the mouse screen to screen [12:57] sigmamu188: ctrl+alt+arrow_left (or arrow_right) .... try that one out :) [12:57] sweet [12:58] ;) [12:58] sigmamu188: and if you go into the settings manager you can make up keyboard shortcuts for just about anything === joe4444 [n=joe@unaffiliated/joe4444] has joined #xubuntu [12:59] how can i browse to a shared folder on my local network? [12:59] joe4444: how is it shared? ... what protocol? [12:59] XP shared folder [01:00] i know exactly where the file i need is, so could i use the smbclient command to copy the file? [01:00] joe4444: can't currently be done on xubuntu without a little bit of trickery [01:00] joe4444: oh, yeah you can do that [01:01] can you give me an example? [01:01] joe4444: not off the top of my head, i don't really mess with smb shares to be honest [01:02] k [01:05] joe4444: try: smbget smb://host/share/path/to/file [01:05] now if only i could play fear on xubuntu [01:05] i would have no need for windows [01:06] sigmamu188: yeah ... i don't play games on computers so i don't really have that problem :) [01:07] maxamillion: i dont either but i make an exception for F.E.A.R. [01:07] sigmamu188: fair enough [01:07] rici, that seems to be working, but i'm not getting the right path... [01:07] maxamillion: i had to add a gig of ram just to get it to run [01:08] maximillion: it was killing frankendell [01:08] joe4444: you mean it's giving you some other file? [01:08] frankendell = computer built with old processor and peripherals for the old xps because dell would not just mail me a new motherboard [01:08] you have to use / not \ [01:09] sigmamu188: lol [01:09] and you'll need to put quotes around it if it has spaces in it [01:09] doesn't windows always create "master" shared folders like $D for the D:\ drive? [01:09] this is what i'm trying... [01:09] joe4444: i don't know if all versions do that [01:09] smbget -w=HODOR smb//joelaptop/$D/edgy.iso [01:09] smb:// [01:09] i thought it was D$ [01:10] boy has it been a long time since i've played with windows [01:10] yeah i'm trying to rid myself of it for good :) [01:10] but i don't know if that would be enabled for network access by default. i kinda doubt it [01:10] you probably need to explicitly share it on the windows machine [01:10] it just keeps saying Downloaded 0b in 0 seconds, so i'm assuming that means i've got the wrong path [01:10] !pastebin [01:10] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:10] well i also have an explicit share on the D drive but it's called (D) Data so the space is an issue... i'll try to rename it [01:11] just use quotes [01:11] maximillion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12417/ [01:11] smbget -w HODOR 'smb://...' [01:11] how do i fix that [01:11] ran --fix -missing [01:11] and got the same message [01:12] rici, i think the problem was -w=HODOR instead of -w HODOR [01:12] it's working now :) [01:12] thanks! [01:13] dumb question: xfburn can burn an iso, right? [01:15] maximillion: do in need to add it as deb or deb-scr? [01:15] maximillion: to the sources fiel [01:15] src [01:16] hmm... xfburn just shows "no info" when i try to burn this edgy iso =( [01:16] sigmamu188: that's a md5sum mismatch ... did you follow the link i gave you step by step or just throw the repositories in your sources.list and go with it? [01:16] joe4444: xfburn is worthless ... try graveman or gnomebaker [01:17] maximillion: threw into sorces and went with it [01:17] lol [01:17] let me try again [01:17] sigmamu188: there is something to be said for tutorials .... if people would read them :) [01:18] sadly, they always read the most erroneous ones :) [01:18] maxamillion, i can't find either in synaptic [01:19] joe4444: do you have all the repos added? [01:19] prob not, fresh install of xubuntu [01:19] maximillion: actually it was because i didnt add the 64 bit repository [01:20] sigmamu188: ahhhhh, what proc you got in that rig? [01:20] my laptop cd-rw kept failing to burn the edgy iso (698mb) so i just burned xubuntu (540mb) instead... my new desktop has a brand new burner so i'm trying to use xubuntu to burn the ubuntu-edgy iso [01:20] joe4444: ah ok, well in synaptic go to Settings->Repositories and select the top 4 [01:21] joe4444: and then you will probably need to click "reload" so it will go out and download the new info from the extra repos [01:22] adding universe was enough to get graveman [01:22] brb [01:22] reboot [01:22] sigmamu188: wait [01:22] sigmamu188: what for? [01:22] nvm [01:23] hmm, how do i burn an iso with graveman? === czer323 [i=czer323@cpe-71-66-230-94.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:23] i can't find an option [01:24] nvm [01:24] :) [01:25] seems to be working =) [01:26] so is feisty still on schedule for apr 19? === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:27] maximillion: 3.2Ghz (200X16) pentium with hyperthreading duo core [01:27] 64bit enabled [01:27] sigmamu188: you sure that's a 64-bit cpu? [01:27] not sure [01:27] you install the 64-bit version of xubuntu? [01:28] no [01:28] should i give it a try? [01:28] joe4444: yeah, give or take a day or two [01:28] sigmamu188: no, but i thought you said your problem with the repo was because you had a 64-bit processor but got the 32-bit repo [01:28] heh, then i won't have edgy on this new box for very long :) [01:28] it was [01:29] when i added the 64-bit repo it no longer gave me the error [01:29] to run 32bit version of anything on 64 processor? I thougt it was impossible. [01:30] im just saying what i did and it fixed the problem [01:31] my chip is hyper-threading capable emt64 capable [01:31] or something like that [01:32] i dont remeber the actual specs [01:32] i know it shows 2 processes in windows [01:33] sounds hazard for me with pentium II running :) [01:33] lol [01:33] Lsi: no, to run a 32-bit anything on a 64-bit kernel is what's hard ... 64-bit processors have been running 32-bit operating systems for years [01:33] ok [01:33] sigmamu188: yeah ... you are going to break something if you try and mix a 32-bit kernel with a 64-bit graphics card driver [01:34] sigmamu188: do this in your irc window "/exec -o uname -a" [01:34] (without the quotes) [01:34] nvm... i gotta go [01:35] Linux bash-tower 2.6.17-11-386 #2 Thu Feb 1 19:50:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux [01:36] maximillion: how do i acces the nvidia gui now? [01:36] You should propably try that 64bit version if your windows said there is two processors [01:36] he's gone [01:36] he is a jerk [01:36] lol [01:36] but he's running a 32-big kernel "i686" [01:37] 32-bit* [01:37] cool [01:37] i don't know much, but i've also heard it's a bad idea to mix 32-bit and 64-bit pkgs [01:37] so if your kernel is 32-bit you shouldn't install anything 64-bit [01:38] that's propably true [01:38] i didn't i jsut had to add the 64 bit repo along with the 32 bit repo to get the nvidia drivers to install [01:38] that may mean it installed a 64-bit driver [01:39] i'm not sure how to check [01:39] try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-effects [01:41] What 64bit repo? The repos are divided by name, not platform. The platform is a variable that determines which package in the named repos you get. [01:42] deb http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/latest/32bit binary/ [01:42] deb http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/latest/64bit binary/ [01:42] ah, not the official repos [01:42] no [01:46] it installed the x86 driver [01:46] or so it would seem === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:54] If I'm looking to install (X)Ubuntu without X, do I want the alternate CD? [01:54] whats the command to launch bash [01:54] im trying to make a shortcut [01:54] NM, I found my answer. [01:54] gnome [01:55] !bash [01:55] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands [01:55] sigmamu188: you don't launch bash. you launch Terminal [01:56] ahh duh [01:56] what is the command [01:56] Terminal [01:56] xfe-terminal? [01:56] with a capital T [01:56] xfce === IndyTim [n=tzcbs0@cpe-71-65-36-219.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:56] just Terminal. with a capital T. [01:57] it is telling me that the command is not executable [01:57] or i guess xfce4-terminal [01:57] really? === rici tries [01:58] wfm [01:58] ok i tried xfce4-terminal [01:58] it accepted it === IndyTim [n=tzcbs0@cpe-71-65-36-219.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:58] but it wont run the shortcut when i this the shortcut key [01:58] Or just (alt+f2) and ln -s /home/.../firstness /home/.../linkTOit [01:59] got it [01:59] xfce4-terminal /bash [02:00] so happy &2 [02:00] much joy joy [02:00] Would I say 'yay'! [02:03] i dunno, i tried all the options and they all worked [02:03] so i don't know what you were doing that didn't === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-179-118.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === ochosi [n=chatzill@chello084114031037.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [02:10] i was adding it as a shortcut key [02:10] alt+tab now launches terminal === Shaba1 [n=nunya@adsl-63-202-227-130.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === sigmamu188 in happy land [02:11] Ok hello gusy [02:11] back in windows [02:11] why sigmamu188 [02:11] i find the existing alt-tab functionality more useful, but what the heck. [02:11] i added it no problem as a shortcut (using Terminal) with super+minus, fwiw [02:12] also, /bash is not valid; if you meant -x bash, it's unnecessary. [02:12] but anyway, i'm glad you're happy :) [02:12] i had to type xfce4-terminal /bash to get it to open [02:12] i get an error if i type that. [02:12] invalid option [02:12] shabal: i added a shortcut key for launching the terminal [02:13] are you running kde or gnome [02:13] im running gnome services [02:13] i didn't enable any gnome stuff, except for what's there with xubuntu [02:13] no kde stuff either [02:14] im just running my session with gnome enabled [02:14] hmm === vorian__ [n=vorian@cpe-76-181-146-41.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:15] when i was adding the command under Applications > Settings > Keyboard Settings > Shortcuts [02:15] yep, i did that. [02:15] i filled in Terminal as what to run, selected super + minus as the shortcut key, and tested it. === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu [02:15] well i guess it was user error [02:15] lol [02:15] it is working now [02:15] cool [02:15] i just tried it [02:16] your way [02:16] but i guess both work [02:16] lol [02:16] i like the alt-tab task switcher thingy === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:20] you can alt tab in windows too [02:21] brb === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.108.238.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === czer323 [i=czer323@cpe-71-66-230-94.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:32] sigmamu188: yes, also mac os x [02:32] so i'm used to it. === posingaspopular [i=eddie@adsl-69-209-76-223.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:38] j #ubuntu-offtopic === jjtec1 [n=glen@c-68-53-206-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === jjtec1 [n=glen@c-68-53-206-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === ochosi [n=chatzill@chello084114031037.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === ochosi [n=chatzill@chello084114031037.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === greenflubber [n=administ@cpe-075-181-033-117.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:21] does anybody know how to install xubuntu on a imac g3 [03:22] in theory i think just make a partition and install === AmyRose [n=djb@user-12l2tg3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:22] greenflubber: have you tried running the live cd? === ochosi [n=chatzill@chello084114031037.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [03:23] yes [03:24] never mind then [03:24] lol === greenflubber [n=administ@cpe-075-181-033-117.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:24] right now the screen is black [03:25] on boot up? [03:25] is there a "_" blinking in the top left corner? [03:25] no to both [03:25] how far have you gotten [03:26] first it turned on then it said xubuntu and had a loading bar under it then went black [03:26] and that is where i am [03:26] greenflubber, i think the command is something like hold 'c' on boot of ubuntu [03:26] did you do a media check [03:26] of any ubuntu live cd [03:26] are you trying to install ubuntu or xubuntu [03:26] what is a media check [03:26] xubuntu [03:26] or something similar [03:26] oh wait, nvm im stupid [03:26] when the xubuntu cd boots [03:26] there is a gui menu [03:27] no [03:27] first check the media [03:27] are you doing an altertinitive install? [03:27] http://pingswept.org/2006/01/08/installing-xubuntu-on-a-g3-imac/ [03:27] well currently there is edubuntu on it and i think i need to take that off first because edubuntu doesn't even work on it [03:27] read that link === AmyRose [n=djb@user-12l2tg3.cable.mindspring.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:27] because the computer is to old to run it [03:28] you should be able to just delete and format that partition [03:28] how [03:28] using gparted [03:28] read that link [03:28] that i just sent you [03:28] k [03:29] im not sure what version of xubuntu you are using [03:30] i dowloanded the most recent one [03:30] i typed server and it didn't work [03:30] if you are using edgy there should be a gui that will let you do the media check and run the life cd with little or no linux knowledge === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu [03:31] are you at a command prompt [03:31] i am where it says enter live [03:31] or [03:31] live video=ofonly [03:31] enter live [03:32] it says loading [03:32] kernel [03:32] ok give it a sec [03:32] white screen [03:32] it is loading the live cd [03:32]