[12:22] <Tm_T> apokryphos: Btw you will go to aKademy?
[12:24] <jjesse> should i be asked to install mp3 support in feisty?
[12:24] <apokryphos> Tm_T: perhaps to the user part; quite a few people keep nudging me to go
[01:23] <Tm_T> apokryphos: I'm trying to get there
[01:25] <Tm_T> hmm, travelling to aKademy and back, 100-200 
[01:25] <Tm_T> I wonder how much staying there whole week might cost
[02:17] <Tm_T> xD
[02:17] <Tm_T> Jucato: just remembered something related to your name )(
[02:17] <Tm_T> and it's not very admiring I assume
[02:18] <Jucato> O.o
[02:18] <Jucato> moin
[02:18] <Tm_T> moinmoin!
[02:18] <Tm_T> Jucato: let me check it, I'll translate it then
[02:19] <Tm_T> just one song where is mentioned "Juan Carlos"
[02:19] <Jucato> aaaah
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> hey all.... just tried out the fiesty beta(installed it) its great!!
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> a couple questions though....
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> first of all, It didn't run the migration assistant (and I do have a windows partition)
[02:33] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: morning (:
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> also, I have an ATI card, and it didn't detect it and prompt me to instal the binary drivers
[02:34] <Hobbsee> heya Tm_T!
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> morning?
[02:41] <Hobbsee> heya
[02:41] <Jucato> yeah, it's morning on our part of the world :D
[02:41] <Tm_T> very early morning here too, sorta
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[02:43] <Tm_T> 0343
[02:43] <Tm_T> good time to start doing accounting stuff
[03:18] <nixternal> heh, you think they get the hint when they ask for support in a dev channel and nobody answers? :p
[03:22] <firephoto> i think it was more of a "this was broke for me" statement. (probably no recently filed bug about that from them though...) ;)
[07:41] <Jucato> manchicken: kool! :D
[07:42] <Jucato> manchicken: ah going back to web devlopment?
[07:42] <manchicken> I've been there.
[07:42] <manchicken> Just at a different place.
[07:42] <manchicken> I want to do more Free Software work, and I got an opportunity.
[07:42] <manchicken> I actually used to work for this company a little over a year ago
[07:43] <Jucato> ah so nice :)
[07:43] <Jucato> I hope that when I do get a job, I'll be able to do FOSS work as well
[08:16] <Lure> hi all
[08:16] <Lure> should we also have something like: ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[09:29] <hunger> Hmm.... what broke knetworkmanager?
[09:43] <hunger> Oh, sorry, false alarm.
[09:43] <Jucato> :D
[09:43] <hunger> It did not come up since some other app was displaying a kwallet-window.
[10:07] <_StefanS_> hep hey
[10:08] <Jucato> hey hep :)
[11:33] <Tonio_> hey
[11:33] <Jucato> hi Tonio_!!
[11:33] <Jucato> how did the interview go?
[11:33] <Tonio_> Lure: uploading k3b then, couldn't do it yesterday
[11:33] <Tonio_> sorry
[11:33] <Tonio_> just got an offer for a second job
[11:33] <Tonio_> :)
[11:33] <Tonio_> hehe, nice day
[11:33] <Jucato> hehe :)
[11:34] <Tonio_> Jucato: interview was nice until the guy asked me to describe what a dns is
[11:34] <Tonio_> my speciality
[11:34] <Tonio_> and I missed a word........... "record"
[11:34] <Jucato> :O
[11:35] <Tonio_> couldn't remember it and I started panic a bit
[11:35] <Tonio_> second part of the interview wasn't that nice
[11:35] <Tonio_> :(
[11:35] <Jucato> aw.. :(
[11:35] <Tonio_> but the guy was american, maybe he'll understood, how hard it is to have an interview on the phone, in another language
[11:35] <Tonio_> but yes, I was angry
[11:36] <Tonio_> how do you want to describe what is a A record, cname record
[11:36] <Tonio_> records replication
[11:36] <Tonio_> when you miss the word "record"
[11:36] <Tonio_> that's impossible :(
[11:37] <Tonio_> so I described iteratives and recursives modes, their difference etc......
[11:37] <Tonio_> but I missed the most important
[11:37] <Tonio_> shame on me....... preasure caused this
[11:37] <Tonio_> so what happens when you fail in an interview due to preasure ?
[11:37] <Jucato> sort of... :/
[11:37] <Tonio_> you're ended..... that'll happen I guess
[11:38] <Jucato> did they immediately tell you if you got the job or not?
[11:38] <Tonio_> no, so there is a chance the guy realises that preasre didn't help and give a second chance
[11:38] <Tonio_> not at the phone
[11:39] <Tonio_> he told me that my english was just perfect except the incident
[11:39] <Jucato> ah at least he gave immediate feedback and told you what you missed
[11:39] <Tonio_> I think he understood I knew everything about dns but failed since a word was missing, I told him
[11:39] <Tonio_> yes
[11:39] <Tonio_> I just explained I knew the word, but just had a memory leak
[11:39] <Tonio_> lack
[11:40] <Tonio_> Jucato: and of course 2 seconds after I hang up the phon..........
[11:40] <Tonio_> "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!! record !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
[11:40] <Tonio_> :'(
[11:41] <Jucato> if it were me, I'd be to busy banging my head on a (wooden) wall :/
[11:42] <Tonio_> Jucato: about the same for me.....
[11:42] <Tonio_> I just hope that he understands that outside of the interview context I'd do better
[11:42] <Tonio_> and I could describe what dns is.......
[11:43] <Jucato> so he's giving a second chance? when/how?
[11:43] <Tonio_> I'll recontact me
[11:43] <Tonio_> dunno when, probably today
[11:44] <Tonio_> I have a second interview this afternoon, phone, but in french, for the second company
[11:44] <Jucato> aaah you'll probably do better with this second interview :D
[11:45] <Tonio_> Jucato: yes but the amazon job was better
[11:46] <Tonio_> second thing I missed is when the guy asked me : "can you describe me a moment when you fail on your mission"
[11:46] <Tonio_> problem : I never failed in my job....... never!
[11:46] <Jucato> hm... "we'll call you" types scare me :/
[11:46] <Jucato> hehe :)
[11:46] <Tonio_> and that's not a joke
[11:46] <Tonio_> i couldn't say this
[11:46] <Tonio_> so I had to lie, and tell a false story
[11:47] <Tonio_> hard when that's not your native language........
[11:47] <Tonio_> but I just couldn't say "I never failed at any mission"
[11:48] <Tonio_> Jucato: can you say that in an interview ?
[11:48] <Tonio_> hard question ;)
[11:48] <Jucato> they'd think your full of it :D
[11:48] <Tonio_> so I invented a story about a 2000 -> 2003 exchange migration that went to nightmare
[11:48] <Tonio_> which is very common with exchange lol
[11:49] <Jucato> hahah
[11:49] <Tonio_> but I  think the guy saw it was a lie
[11:49] <Tonio_> Jucato: the problem is that tipically, I'm an exchange expert, and in general I'm the guy that is called when a migration goes to nightmare to repair.......
[11:50] <Tonio_> sadly, I just couldn't say "you know what, I never did an error, I'm just perfect"
[11:50] <Tonio_> that's something you just can't say, even it is true
[11:50] <Jucato> at least not in an interview :)
[11:50] <Tonio_> I can fail, but that currently never happened
[11:50] <Jucato> you're perfectly free to shout it in here :D
[11:51] <Tonio_> Jucato: so we'll see
[11:51] <Tonio_> but one word missing corrupted the interview
[11:51] <Tonio_> without this lack, I'd do way better by the end, since that gave me too much pressure
[11:52] <Tonio_> Jucato: hehe, thanks :)
[11:52] <Tonio_> concerning the second company, it is for a job I perfecty know, and in french
[11:52] <Tonio_> 99% of chance theu'll acept me
[11:52] <Tonio_> they
[11:53] <larsivi> I'm testing the next RC's for xorg server and intel driver (since the current don't work correctly with my setup), but would like to know how to repair my kubuntu installation afterwards
[11:53] <larsivi> if anyone knows :)
[11:53] <larsivi> will a reinstall of xorg-server and friends be enough?
[12:01] <Tonio_> larsivi: just sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
[12:01] <Tonio_> same for all other
[12:01] <Tonio_> packags
[12:01] <larsivi> Tonio_: thanks
[12:01] <Tonio_> sorry for the brokenline :)
[12:01] <Tonio_> larsivi: that'll overwrite the files on the computer
[12:01] <larsivi> I'll live ;)
[12:02] <larsivi> regarding the broken line :o
[12:06] <_StefanS_> hey Tonio_ what was the job ?
[12:09] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: IT manager for amazon france
[12:09] <_StefanS_> oh nice
[12:09] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: so it wasn't bad, but I could have done better
[12:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I read that you have a memory leak.. lack :D
[12:09] <Tonio_> leak or lack ?
[12:09] <Tonio_> leak ?
[12:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well about record
[12:09] <Tonio_> what is the good word ?
[12:10] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: yeah that f*ucked me up......
[12:10] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well neither
[12:10] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: of course 2 seconds after I hang up the phone, I got it........
[12:10] <Tonio_> I just hope to have a second chance in front of him
[12:10] <Jucato> memory gap
[12:11] <Tonio_> my chance is that they want a windows/unix/linux sysadmin with management capabilities
[12:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yea, well they must have seen you were home in the technical stuff afterall
[12:11] <Tonio_> that speaks a very good english
[12:11] <Tonio_> hard to find in france, so maybe that's my chance in fact
[12:11] <_StefanS_> yea
[12:11] <Tonio_> we'll see
[12:12] <Jucato> too heavy, I'll just sink :)
[12:12] <Jucato> oh btw, I asked someone to check the Domino code to see what's the problem with it and the new dialog box
[12:13] <_StefanS_> Jucato: ah yep..
[12:14] <Jucato> says he's going to make a patch for it
[12:15] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well it didn't react to the arrow keys
[12:15] <_StefanS_> Jucato: so I figured that he didn't pass on the keyEvents to the parent widgets
[12:15] <_StefanS_> Jucato: e->ignore(); or something
[12:17] <Jucato> "<Sho_>     The buttons actually work fine in Domino, btw <Sho_>     The reason they don't appear to work is that they use toolbuttons instead of push buttons and Domino doesn't draw focus rectangles on toolbuttons"
[12:17] <Jucato> (sorry, took me a while to grep my logs)
[12:19] <Jucato> _StefanS_: that was for you btw... just for reference :)
[12:20] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well thats great, but not true. I have retangles around mine.
[12:21] <_StefanS_> Jucato: using QtCurve ..
[12:21] <Lure> Tonio_: thanks for doing k3b - will pay you in drinks in Zagreb ;-)
[12:21] <_StefanS_> Jucato: and i default style
[12:21] <Lure> Tonio_: and good luch with job interviews ;-)
[12:22] <Jucato> _StefanS_: I'll ask again... but it's too technical for me to make sense anyway... bottom line, it's Domino's problem and he's gonna help patch it :D
[12:22] <_StefanS_> exactly.
[12:22] <_StefanS_> why don't he have a look at QtCurve, and snatch the code from there
[12:23] <Tonio_> Lure: can't wait to seeing you at zagreb ;)
[12:24] <Lure> Tonio_: my daughter is ill, so I will come by train on Sat morning and leave evening
[12:50] <Tonio_> Lure: ouch.... not to ill I hope ?
[12:51] <Tonio_> Lure: so WE with family aborted ?
[12:51] <Lure> Tonio_: just cold, so they will stay at home
[12:52] <Riddell> k3b not uploaded yet?
[12:54] <Jucato> hi Riddell!! how are you now?
[12:55] <Riddell> Jucato: somewhat better thanks
[12:55] <Jucato> ah kool! :)
[01:00] <Riddell> hi Arby
[01:00] <Arby> hello Riddell
[01:10] <Lure> Riddell: Tonio_ is checking k3b, otherwise it is on revu
[01:14] <vonhalenbach> Hi. I have Kubuntu Feisty daily snapshot. A livecd i did install on my harddisk. Do you have the menu software-propertys-kde?
[01:14] <vonhalenbach> software-properties-kde
[01:15] <vonhalenbach> I did wonder why my computer downloaded about 6 MB every day. I thought i have a trojan horse!
[01:17] <Jucato> vonhalenbach: it's the new app to manage repositories for Feisty
[01:17] <Jucato> not in the K Menu though (afaik). but from Adept Manager -> Adept menu -> Manage Repositories
[01:18] <vonhalenbach> Yes, but i think it would be important for the user to know about such a thing. It is the point to manage the update things. So it should be in the menu.
[01:21] <Jucato> I don't think it has anything to do with  "<vonhalenbach> I did wonder why my computer downloaded about 6 MB every day. I thought i have a trojan horse!"
[01:21] <Jucato> Feisty is in beta, daily (even more than once a day) updates always happen
[01:22] <vonhalenbach> There is a checkbox "Check for updates daily".
[01:23] <Arby> I tried yesterday to install from feisty daily 20070329, on a machine with 256MB I couldn't get Ubiquity to actually launch, worked fine on a machine with 512MB.
[01:23] <Arby> Anybody know if this is a known issue
[01:23] <Arby> ?
[01:23] <vonhalenbach> You cant silently download lots of megabytes, without notifying the user about it.
[01:23] <Arby> I know 256 is not a lot for a live CD but aren't they supposed to work on >192MB?
[01:24] <Arby> oops s/20070329/ 20070328/
[01:25] <Arby> I'll try again tonight with todays build, I'm just curious.
[01:25] <Jucato> vonhalenbach: you will notified only if there are updates available. it's up to you run adept updater or to configure adept to automatically download the packages. the default is "only notify"
[01:26] <vonhalenbach> ok, but why does it download 6 MB a day after activating the online connection?
[01:26] <vonhalenbach> in ps ax i did see "apt-get -qq update"
[01:27] <Jucato> vonhalenbach: that's the "check for daily updates" part
[01:27] <vonhalenbach> yes.
[01:27] <Jucato> it is not installing anything. it only updates the package index
[01:27] <vonhalenbach> when i disable it, it should not download so much again?
[01:28] <guaqua> the way debian's apt-get works is like that
[01:28] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm just uploading
[01:28] <Riddell> Arby: I can't remember what we say the minimum is, it could well be 256MB, it wouldn't surprise me too much if it didn't work though
[01:28] <Arby> kubuntu/daily-live/current says 192MB
[01:28] <Jucato> vonhalenbach: as long as feisty is not yet released, you will always have daily updates. disabling it kinda defeats the purpose
[01:28] <Arby> it's pretty much unusable on 256MB
[01:28] <Jucato> anyway, off to dinner
[01:29] <Arby> might just be that some docs need changing
[01:29] <Tonio_> Riddell: sorry to be late, but with zagreb and those interviews for jobs, I have other priorities :)
[01:29] <Tonio_> Lure: I'll also upload kds to disable the splash
[01:29] <Arby> althought curiously I can use the Xubuntu graphical installer just fine on the same machine.
[01:29] <vonhalenbach> Jucato: Ah. So this means this is just a feature for testers, as long as Feisty is not released. I see. Then it is okay for me.
[01:30] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm just pushing 2 #kubuntu-fr guys to start working on a kde/qt version of gdebi....... hope they'll accept ;)
[01:30] <vonhalenbach> I did install Feisty for testing.
[01:30] <Tonio_> Riddell: are you feeling better today ?
[01:34] <Riddell> Tonio_: we already have mhb lined up to work on gdebi
[01:34] <Riddell> still sniffy but generally not so bad
[01:36] <Arby> Riddell: following all the feedback, will there be a new version of the kubuntu dist-upgrade tool to test out anytime soon?
[01:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: oh ? didn't knew abou that
[01:45] <Riddell> Arby: I have some fixes that should be uploaded soon
[01:45] <Arby> cool, I'll look out for that
[01:46] <Arby> overall it's a really nice tool though
[01:46] <Arby> miles better than the dapper -> Edgy transition
[01:47] <Arby> Riddell: following up on the liveCD thing, the download page on kubuntu.org no longer specifies minimum RAM specifically
[01:47] <Arby> but it does have this - Other installation options including 64 bit CD images and alternative installation methods for OEM computers and computers with less than 192MB RAM
[01:48] <Arby> realistically <512MB is pretty much unusable with the liveCD installer.
[01:49] <Arby> so maybe the page should be changed to reject that.
[01:49] <Arby> just my 2 cents
[01:49] <Arby> s/reject/reflect/
[01:49] <vonhalenbach> I had no problems to install with slightly more than 256MB
[01:50] <vonhalenbach> Sysinfo for 'cipy': Linux 2.6.20-12-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: PentiumIII(Coppermine) at 801 MHz (1605 bogomips), , RAM: 308/313MB, 114 proc's, 2.47h up
[01:50] <Arby> vonhalenbach: interesting, ubiquity just failed to launch on my testbox with 256MB RAM
[01:51] <vonhalenbach> i can test with a livecd here if it helps. My Livecd is from 23 March.
[01:51] <Arby> I get the hour glass in the taskbar, then either a grey window with no content, or just nothing at all
[01:51] <Arby> this was yesterdays liveCD
[01:51] <Arby> I intend to try tonight with todays
[01:51] <Arby> but my test machine is at home, and I'm at work.
[01:52] <vonhalenbach> I did not figure out how the rsysnc works, yet.
[01:52] <Arby> I have installed Edgy from a liveCD on the same machine previously
[01:52] <Arby> vonhalenbach: there's a really handy script on the forums, hang on.
[01:52] <vonhalenbach> Ok.
[01:53] <Arby> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=386269 <- there
[01:53] <Arby> vonhalenbach: for it to work you need to replicate the directory structure of cdimage.ubuntu.com
[01:53] <asyd> Hello
[01:55] <vonhalenbach> Arby: Do i need to copy all files from the CD into a HD-image and then rsyncing the files -> make an iso again ?
[01:55] <Riddell> everyone hug asyd for putting kubuntu on l'assemlee nationale
[01:56] <asyd> hugs everyone !
[01:56] <vonhalenbach> :)
[01:56] <Arby> vonhalenbach download the iso with wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/feisty-desktop-i386.iso
[01:56] <Arby> then when you run the script it will update that iso for you
[01:56] <vonhalenbach> Ok.
[01:57] <Arby> you need a directory structure like $basedir/kubuntu-iso/daily-live/current
[01:58] <vonhalenbach> Ah. That is is.
[01:59] <vonhalenbach> It can be /home/user/kubuntu-iso/daily-live/current ?
[01:59] <Arby> yep, that's exactly what I have
[01:59] <vonhalenbach> ok
[02:00] <Arby> just make sure you edit the line in the rsync script to specify you're basedir correctly
[02:00] <vonhalenbach> will do.
[02:04] <asyd> Riddell: do you work for canonical ?
[02:19] <Tonio_> asyd: work for linagora ?
[02:20] <Tonio_> asyd: btw, be brave.......... I already worked for the conseil rgional d'le de france
[02:20] <Tonio_> asyd: their informatics knowledge is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally bad
[02:21] <Tonio_> hey mr kwwii
[02:21] <asyd> yup, I work for Linagora :)
[02:21] <kwwii> howdy Monsieur Tonio_
[02:21] <asyd> ok
[02:34] <Lure> Riddell: seen this: http://dot.kde.org/1175118195/
[02:35] <Lure> Riddell: quote: "Furthermore, OpenSUSE makes it really easy to develop for KDE 4 because it provides you with the latest version of kdelibs every Tuesday. That means I don't have to compile kdelibs myself but can concentrate on compiling kdeedu :) "
[02:35] <Lure> Riddell: maybe we can set up something like this with imbrandon's build farm?
[02:37] <Lure> hi Hobbsee
[02:37] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:47] <Riddell> Lure: yes, that would be nice
[02:49] <apokryphos> Lure: it's actually a lot more frequent than that (try: every day or two), but they're modest :P
[02:50] <apokryphos> I heard some talk some time ago (in u-d) about a type of build service for ubuntu; problem with the openSUSE one for Ubuntu would be that it doesn't really integrate with bzr
[02:50] <Lure> apokryphos: yep, but once-per-week makes more sense due to lib changes
[02:51] <apokryphos> build services are quite a lot of work to get set up, but they're such an amazing idea for developers. Everyone should have one 8)
[02:51] <Lure> apokryphos: yes, this is never ending story - private archives
[02:52] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: ppa.  it's vapourware
[02:52] <apokryphos> of course they benefit users since it means pretty much all applications can be easily backported or put onto other distros (like see http://software.opensuse.org/download/openSUSE:/Tools/ )
[02:52] <Hobbsee> but you know, it'll really solve the world when it comes into being :P
[02:52] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: vapourware -- what do you mean?
[02:53] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: products that are hyped up, but dont actually exist yet, class as vapourware.
[02:53] <Hobbsee> (instead of freeware, shareware, etc)
[02:53] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: build services do exist... or do you mean that Ubuntu people were hyping it up?
[02:54] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: i was meaning the personal package archives, which should solve all this
[02:54] <apokryphos> personal archives would only be one feature of a build service
[02:54] <apokryphos> though it does exist -- see http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/
[02:55] <apokryphos> (home:/ is the location for personal archives)
[02:57] <apokryphos> suse guys are a little crazy, though. Their eventual plan with the OBS is to integrate it fully with KIWI, so you can choose any packages and then build your distro. Beineri made a KDE LiveCD the other day
[02:57] <apokryphos> *KDE4 LiveCD
[02:58] <jjesse> when i try to play a mp3 in amarok in feisty shouldn't it ask me to install mp3 support?
[03:09] <Riddell> jjesse: yes
[03:09] <jjesse> Riddell: it didn't
[03:09] <Hobbsee> yay, new basket has hit debian
[03:09] <Hobbsee> or, is hitting it
[03:30] <kwwii> Riddell, all: I am updating the example content package....anyone have any interesting ideas for this?
[03:30] <vonhalenbach> jjesse: Normally amarok should ask the user if he wants to convert his mp3s to ogg-vorbis. :)
[03:31] <vonhalenbach> jjesse: Then show a selection " yes  no"  and after pressing one of the buttons should convert them anyway.
[03:31] <Hobbsee> kwwii: er, what kind of stuff should it have in it?  features of kubuntu, or apps on linux?
[03:32] <kwwii> Hobbsee: example documents, sounds files, OO files, mp3, etc
[03:32] <kwwii> Hobbsee: it ends up in ~/example-content
[03:33] <Hobbsee> yeah, i just haven tseen it in a while
[03:33] <kwwii> if nothing else, I'm updating the logos, etc.
[03:33] <Hobbsee> hrm...
[03:33] <kwwii> but perhaps there is something nice we could include
[03:36] <asyd> anyone know how to change the default format of compression action  (from tar.gz to zip)
[03:36] <Hobbsee> asyd: #ubuntu
[03:37] <Riddell> asyd: in which programme?
[03:37] <asyd> kde
[03:37] <asyd> on right click
[03:37] <Riddell> Hobbsee: he's elite, we'll allow him that sort of questions here (although it doesn't mean we'll know the answer)
[03:38] <jjesse> in regards to the example-content is the updated book material going in again?
[03:38] <Hobbsee> oh, wrong channel.  dammit
[03:39] <asyd> btw, I hope the menu "create a new" content will be customizable by a GUI in kde4, because we lost some time to understand how it works :p
[03:41] <Jucato> at least for Konqueror...
[03:41] <Jucato> currently it might be theoretically possible to create a frontend for creating konqi servicemenus (I think...)
[03:41] <kwwii> jjesse: erm which book material?
[03:42] <Tonio_> asyd: RiddellI'm just preparing a little k3brc file for kds
[03:42] <Tonio_> no big changes, just disable the plash, the tips, and the auto-eject which is not fine with iso burning
[03:43] <jjesse> kwwii: the official ubuntu book
[03:43] <Riddell> asyd: that right click entry is a plugin from ark, possible a kpart I'm not sure
[03:43] <jjesse> in dapper and i think edgy html of it was incldued
[03:44] <kwwii> jjesse: as I see it, it is not included (at least not in the example-content package)
[03:44] <jjesse> kwwii: ok, i just thought it was included in one of the previous releases
[03:45] <Jucato> excerpts from the Ubuntu book?
[03:45] <Jucato> in example-content?
[03:45] <jjesse> yes
[03:45] <jjesse> wasn't it in dapper and edgy?
[03:46] <Jucato> afaik it was in Dapper. can't remember in Edgy
[03:46] <jjesse> or am i smoking something
[03:46] <Riddell> asyd: it's in kdeaddons-3.5.6/konq-plugins/arkplugin
[03:46] <Jucato> for Dapper I'm sure it was there
[03:46] <asyd> Riddell: thanks
[03:47] <Riddell> asyd: m_ext = m_conf->readEntry( "LastExtension", ".tar.gz" );
[03:47] <Riddell> it'll be that LastExtension config entry then
[03:48] <Riddell> asyd: so try setting LastExtension=.zip in arkrc
[03:49] <asyd> hmm hmm, we already have such line in arkplugin
[03:50] <asyd> arkrc even
[03:57] <bddebian> heya
[03:57] <Jucato> hiya bddebian!
[03:57] <bddebian> Bah :-)
[03:57] <Riddell> asyd: not sure then, you'd need to put some debugging output into the code and see what it's up to
[03:59] <bddebian> printf(), the best debugger in the world! :)
[03:59] <asyd> hehe
[04:13] <Jucato> hi morn|off (mornfall?)! ;D
[04:13] <morn|off> hi
[04:13] <Jucato> jjesse: I downloaded the example-content debs for Dapper and Edgy. seems like only Dapper had the sample chapter from the book
[04:13] <morn|off> yeah, that's me
[04:13] <Jucato> hehe hi! :)
[04:13] <morn|off> hm, this chan dropped from my other chanlist
[04:14] <morn|off> the one i generally use
[04:14] <morn|off> in fact
[04:14] <morn|off> everything dropped out of it
[04:14] <morn|off> bleh
[04:14] <Jucato> hehe :)
[04:14] <morn|off> i have to get it together again one day
[04:14] <morn|off> anyway, gotta run in a minute :)
[04:14] <morn|off> so, laters
[04:14] <Jucato> take care! :)
[04:26] <jjesse> Jucato: ok, guess i was wrong
[05:20] <glatzor> Riddell: hi, could you please take a look at this bug: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-support-tr/+bug/97420
[05:20] <ubotu> Malone bug 97420 in language-support-tr "software-properties-kde crashes in Turkish locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[05:20] <glatzor> Riddell: Is this caused by faulty translation?
[06:04] <Riddell> glatzor: hmm, strange
[06:05] <Riddell> glatzor: I'm not doing much today (ill) but I'll add it to my todo
[06:31] <Tonio_> http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/03/28/9655.aspx
[06:31] <Tonio_> very interesting !
[06:32] <asyd> ouaaaa virtualbox is very impressive
[06:41] <nixternal> asyd: it isn't to bad, but I didn't like the way it resizes windows
[06:42] <nixternal> i.e., my lappy is 1280x800, and if I run VBox at 1024x768, it doesn't fit on my screen
[06:42] <nixternal> whereas VMWare will shrink it down so it will fit
[06:52] <nixternal> I got it to work with Feisty using the latest release they put out
[07:49] <jetsaredim> the other day I was asking about glade apps
[07:49] <jetsaredim> I upgraded to feisty, but now glade seems worse than it did originally
[07:50] <jetsaredim> is there a bug in the kde-gtk engine package?
[07:50] <jetsaredim> also, are you guys looking at bugs related to kde4 or is it just beta no support...?
[07:52] <Riddell> jetsaredim: there's no support for it
[08:17] <jetsaredim> Riddell: so no bugs being filed for it?
[08:24] <jetsaredim> what about the gtk engine problems?
[08:47] <vonhalenbach> The LiveCD doesn't shutoff my computer. A screen is displayed that i should press enter. On 2.6.20-13
[08:47] <vonhalenbach> This is a regression from 2.6.20.12
[08:48] <vonhalenbach> 2.6.20.12 did not show the picture with the message to press enter, but it successfully shut-off my computer.
[08:53] <Riddell> jetsaredim: what gtk engine problems?
[08:53] <jetsaredim> (glade-2:26147): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_window_set_back_pixmap(): pixmap must have a colormap
[08:54] <Riddell> is that actually a problem?
[08:55] <jetsaredim> I'm getting solid black background
[08:55] <david> Can anyone help with control problem with gspca and webcam (motioneye).
[08:56] <david> brightness, etc. sliders do nothing in kopete or camorama.
[08:56] <Riddell> jetsaredim: screenshot?
[08:56] <jetsaredim> where can I post to
[08:57] <Riddell> any image pastebin
[09:04] <jetsaredim> http://imagenerd.com/show.php?_img=glade_gtk1Q3C2.png
[09:05] <jetsaredim> that's an actual shot of one of the glade-2 panes, but other gtk apps show the same thing
[09:06] <Riddell> oh, beghera
[09:06] <jetsaredim> oh right
[09:06] <Riddell> use another qt theme or disable the gtk-qt engine
[09:06] <jetsaredim> just remove it?
[09:07] <Riddell> rm ~/.kde/env/gtk*
[09:08] <jetsaredim> and ~/.gtk*
[09:09] <jetsaredim> that's much better - thanks
[09:29] <jetsaredim> Riddell: so what should I do about the problems with the kde4 stuff that I'm seeing?
[09:30] <Riddell> jetsaredim: see if they exist in current SVN and if they do fix them
[09:31] <jetsaredim> you mean the kde4 svn, yes?
[09:33] <Riddell> of course
[09:40] <jetsaredim> well - it looks like I'm missing the taskbar library, so that's why I was wondering
[09:41] <jetsaredim> is that supposed to be in these edgy packages?
[09:41] <jetsaredim> kcm_taskbar, that is
[11:08] <Alpha_Cluster> anyone else in feisty haveing problems with the radeon driver?
[11:09] <allee> Alpha_Cluster: the xorg radeon driver works fine (Dell D600)
[11:09] <Alpha_Cluster> im getting a black screen once i get out of kdm
[11:10] <Alpha_Cluster> wait solved it
[11:10] <Alpha_Cluster> left kaffiene on fullscreen and forgot to turn it off before shutdown
[11:15] <yuriy> d600 has ati?
[11:17] <Alpha_Cluster> online says they got a Radeon 9000 Mobility
[11:21] <yuriy> hmm i repair them all the time and thought they all have intel or nvidia