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freyeliseethernet card works ok, but how do I make the call? KPPP only talks about modems.12:14
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BluesKajfreyelise, behind a dsl router ?12:15
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freyelisemy problem is I can't find where to type my login and password, basically :)12:16
kikomantry 192.168.1.1 on your browser12:17
BluesKajKPPP is for dialup12:18
freyelisecould not connect to host ... it says12:18
BluesKajwhat says ?12:18
soulriderdoes anyone know of a fast CLI command to see how much free space i have in my partitions ?12:18
freyelisetrying to go to that ip kikoman suggested12:19
soulriderfreyelise: what are you trying to config ?12:19
soulriderfreyelise: for DSL do12:19
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BluesKajwhat kind of service do you have dialup or DSL ?12:19
soulridersudo pppoeconf - in a console12:19
soulrideryes, << sudo pppoeconf >> will let you configure your DSL connection12:20
freyeliseso, i just finished installing and trying to figure out how to set up my connection, i got my login info at hand, just need to figure where to type them12:20
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freyeliseok, i'll try that12:20
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tuzloI have Kaffeine installed on Kubuntu. It wont play a disk but returns the following error. http://pastebin.ca/414230 Am I missing a plugin or something?12:22
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freyelisei'll need to disconnect the net cable from this lappy to try make it work, thanks for the info though, i think i'll manage from here12:23
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ScarFreewillcan some one help me to run teamspeak with alsa?12:29
kikomanare you playing AA?12:30
ScarFreewillno i've got the worst internet in the world12:31
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ScarFreewill /dev/dsp is what its set to atm12:32
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ScarFreewill!dsp12:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:32
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freyjust popped to say it worked :)12:37
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peakerhey, how come "kdesu ls /dev" shows an incomplete listing, while "sudo ls /dev" shows them all?12:38
peakerI am asking cause I can't get some root command to work with kdesu, but it does work with sude12:38
peakersudo12:38
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aaroncampbellWhat RAID cards work well with (K)ubuntu?12:39
coty!ipv612:39
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv412:39
eilkeradd to blacklist :D12:40
cotythat bot is always there when i need it L)12:40
eilkerit knows too much :D12:41
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cotylol12:42
cotyyea12:42
cotyits great12:42
cotywho here deserves a bot snack12:42
coty!botsnack12:43
ubotuYum!12:43
cotygood girl12:43
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NullbyteHey, how do I change the default program that I rip CDs with?12:49
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eilker!ice > eilker12:50
N6REJhey guys, have a probably dumb question, but....12:51
NullbyteGo on12:51
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N6REJif hal says "DHCI USB 1.1" that means the usb controller is a usb 1.1?12:51
iMilad windows puts ... for files with long names. is it possible to do the same in linux?12:51
NullbyteYep, N6REJ12:51
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N6REJNullbyte: was afraid of that, ok, next part of dumb q LOL If I put a usb 2.x external hub on that port will that satisfy any 2.x requirements a device mighthave?12:52
NullbyteWell, I guess it will. But it will be at 1.1 speed though, N6REJ12:52
coty!ipv6 > coty12:53
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N6REJNullbyte: hmmmmmmm .... I've got a logitech webcam, and its only partially seeing it.  I'm wondering if its because its a 1.1 usb hub on the mb, or what.  I THOUGHT this mb was 2.x12:53
N6REJK8V-X12:53
NullbyteI have no idea about that, I dont really know much about USB, N6REJ12:54
N6REJme neither, other then it beats straight serial to heck12:55
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N6REJok, now this is really strange... the specs say its a 2.0 hub.12:56
N6REJlet me check my manual if I can find it.12:56
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N6REJyep says right on the box "usb 2.0"12:57
NullbyteI guess it means that it supports 2.012:58
NullbyteNot that it requires it12:58
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N6REJNullbyte: no, I mean the motherboard says that it has 8 usb 2.0 port12:58
NullbyteOh.12:58
N6REJbut hal is saying I have 1.112:58
N6REJ:(12:58
Nullbyteo_12:58
philfo1N6REJ, did you get GIMPshop installed?12:59
NullbyteI prefer photoshop :>12:59
N6REJphilfo1: nope, not yet, got sidetracked with other stuff12:59
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philfo1right, right12:59
N6REJNullbyte: yeah, but how to get ph on kubuntu?12:59
N6REJps even12:59
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N6REJ*sigh*12:59
NullbyteInstall wine?12:59
kgx0hey. does any know how i can quickly find out whats running on what port12:59
philfo1gots some questions...12:59
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N6REJNullbyte: really???12:59
NullbyteIt runs perfect, no need to do anything fancy12:59
NullbyteYeah12:59
N6REJNO WAY12:59
NullbyteWell12:59
ubuntuI need some help undoing xorg fixes that went out last night01:00
Nullbyteversion 7.0 does01:00
NullbyteI dont need cs2 or 3, its just bloat01:00
N6REJhmmmmm trying to remember diff between cs2 and 701:00
philfo1does PS CS run in Wine?01:00
NullbyteDunno, but 7.0 runs really fast01:00
N6REJOMG01:00
philfo1oh my, the difference is the world N601:00
N6REJphilfo1: between 7 and cs2?01:00
philfo1yup01:01
N6REJmmmmmmmm01:01
tmbgwhat's wrong w/ gimp?01:01
N6REJphilfo1: well, all we can do is try01:01
philfo17 will always run faster, but has less power for manipulation01:01
N6REJah01:01
NullbyteI just prefer working in photoshop, theres nothing wrong with the gimp at all01:01
philfo1because in CS2 you are forced to use the Bridge which takes up a TON of memory01:01
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philfo1it's all about workflow.  I'm used to PS as well, but have to get used to the Gimp now until I can get CS to run01:02
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N6REJNullbyte: wanna help us get wine going?01:02
NullbyteWell, I dont mind doing that01:02
NullbyteBut theres instructions on winehq.org01:02
N6REJphilfo1: you game for some wine?01:02
philfo1sure I'd love to see if I can run CS on my machine01:03
NullbyteCheck the wine appdb01:03
N6REJNullbyte: you don't know my luck this week.  I'm not even sure I've got samba yet cause I can't see it but it seems to be functioing I THINK.01:03
NullbyteI dont know anything about Samba, sorry x)01:03
NullbyteTrying to figure it out as well01:04
N6REJmakes more then one of us.01:04
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cotydoes anyone know what apps i should try01:04
N6REJwell I can tell you that I can now type smbclient -L driftwood ( which is name of server ) and it comes back right... couldn't do that before today01:04
orange1c0nv1ct: u there?01:04
c0nv1ctya01:04
N6REJphilfo1: you checking the list?01:04
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NullbyteIt seems to run semi well01:05
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soulrideris there a way to install dependencies of a program but not he program itself ?01:05
Hazhey guys, what's the command to update the locate database?01:05
cotycould someone tell me about some good programs for kubuntu01:05
philfo1nope.01:06
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philfo1hold on01:06
N6REJk01:06
NullbyteWell yeah, coty01:06
NullbyteWhat do you need?01:06
cotyk01:06
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cotyjust want something that you guys find cool01:06
NullbyteWINE01:06
Nullbyteis horribly cool01:07
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cotygot it01:07
eilkerhaz: sudo updatedb ?01:07
Hazthat's it--thanks!01:07
philfo1what are you looking for coty?01:07
eilkernp01:07
Nullbytedvd::rip?01:07
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cotyphilfo1: nothing just some software that you guys like01:07
N6REJhahahah, wife called me like she frequently does, and said "will you wake me in an hour?"  Well I always forget so installed "teatime" and so she just called and I said "sure let me get my teatimer out and set it to cook some "nap tea", she said, "uhh...??... 0_^ ok?"01:07
N6REJLOL01:07
cotysince there is so much01:07
philfo1ha ha hah01:08
NullbyteXD N601:08
cotyi like wine01:08
NullbyteSo do I01:08
NullbyteRuns most of my windows stuff better than windows itself01:08
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N6REJlol01:08
cotyI dont know about that01:08
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cotyit seemed glitchy on one of my programs01:08
N6REJcoty: Nullbyte has offered a wine 102 course tonight01:08
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Nullbytex)01:09
N6REJ:P01:09
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Nullbytecoty, did you check the appdb? Theres usually fixes in there if it only works partially01:09
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Arwenwow, feisty is sweet!01:09
Arwenand I don't even need GART memory anymore01:09
NullbyteIt is, Arwen?01:09
NullbyteArwen: oo01:10
ArwenNullbyte, mostly for the bugfixes :-\01:10
cotyi want to instal feisty01:10
Arwenif you don't have problems, you probably won't see it01:10
Nullbytecoty: Wait until its finished :)01:10
cotyi want to do that upgrade that does not requre a cd01:10
NullbyteArwen: Fair :)01:10
Nullbytecoty: Wait until its released!01:10
cotyok01:10
philfo1http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=graphics01:10
cotywell what about 6.1001:10
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NullbyteMm?01:10
Arwencoty, you want feisty? :-)01:11
cotyi would like to update but i dont have a burner01:11
cotyyes01:11
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philfo1oh my, most of the Adobe suite from last year is in there01:11
Arwenhow fast's your internet connection?01:11
NullbyteWell you could download the image and mount it :01:11
Nullbyte:P01:11
cotymount it?01:11
cotywere01:11
cotywhy01:11
Arwencoty, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade01:11
Nullbytein /media, together with all your other mounted stuff?01:11
Arwenyou can do the entire dist-upgrade without touching any kind of cd01:12
ArwenNullbyte, cmon, mounting an ubuntu iso is pointless01:12
cotyok i will do that01:12
cotyis it safe to mount01:12
NullbyteArwen: It is01:12
cotyand install01:12
Arwenalso, /mnt is for mounted fs....01:12
Arwencoty, na, forget the mounting, you'll just waste bandwidth, follow the instructions at the link01:12
N6REJNullbyte: did you comment out the wacom devices?  I don't even have any of them.01:12
NullbyteArwen: I use that too, but KDE tends to put stuff in /media you see.01:12
Arwenshould work, but if it doesn't, you'll need to reinstall01:12
cotyok01:12
NullbyteN6REJ: Removed them all when I tried to fix up my ATI card, yes01:13
cotyreinstalling is no problem01:13
cotyis feisty good01:13
Arwenchance of success goes up as your amount of third-party junk goes down01:13
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N6REJNullbyte: ok, thats going to be the first step01:13
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N6REJphilfo1: so what do you think?01:13
Arwencoty, it's an improvement, for people with ati cards, YES, for people with nvidia cards, yes, and for everyone else, maybe01:13
philfo1wine looks good cause it runs CS.01:13
cotycool01:13
philfo1not CS2 yet though01:13
pagan0neanyone have any suggestions on software to use for recording audio and video from a soundcard and webcam like windows MovieMaker?01:14
cotynow i just have to figure out how to do this01:14
NullbyteYou want to make a movie with your webcam? X_X01:14
pagan0neNullbyte: i want to record a small avi or mpg file01:14
philfo1how about Adobe just releases the port for Linux.01:14
N6REJamen!01:14
Nullbytephilfo1: How about Adobe just hates linux01:14
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Nullbytepagan0ne: Just a second :)01:15
pagan0neok01:15
philfo1then there would be no reason to have windows at all!  : )01:15
cotyadobe hates linux?01:15
N6REJphilfo1: :D01:15
N6REJcoty: no!01:15
cotyoh01:15
cotygood because no one should but microsoft01:15
NullbyteHeh01:15
philfo1well, there is definitely pressure from MS to keep Adobe from going Linux friendly01:15
N6REJadobe released adobe reader for *nix native01:15
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ArwenAdobe isn't particularly linux-friendly, but they don't "hate" Linux01:15
N6REJphilfo1: yep01:15
NullbyteI dont think they hate us either, but they dont develop stuff for linux at all01:15
Arwenthey have all their readers, players, etc for linux but none of their dev tools01:16
N6REJNullbyte: thats not true ^^01:16
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drew__hey everytime i try to run this one shell it never starts01:16
N6REJArwen: right01:16
cotyis it because linux is all about free and sharing01:16
cotyand not greed01:16
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N6REJdrew__: do yo uhave the shell installed?01:16
ArwenN6REJ, because they want to expand without any actual effort :-\01:16
NullbyteWhatever :p01:16
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N6REJdrew__: is it in the usable shells file01:16
drew__im trying to01:16
philfo1adobe reader HAD to be released to just capitalize on the little bit of the market that Linux users represent01:16
N6REJphilfo1: yep...01:16
drew__how do i move ti to usable shells?01:16
Arwenphilfo1, think about it, Acrobat itself isn't out for Linux01:17
philfo1the new thing is that mocrosoft is pushing the HD file format over the JPEG01:17
Arwensee the logic?01:17
N6REJhmmm you dont' you just add it if I recall01:17
cotyDoes adobe charge?01:17
philfo1yup01:17
Arwenphilfo1, HD over JPEG????01:17
philfo1just reader01:17
Arwenthat makes no sense01:17
philfo1exactly01:17
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ArwenHD is video, JPEG is images, I'm lost01:17
Arwendo you mean MPEG?01:17
philfo1nope01:17
drew__evry time i run my mobo speaker gives a null comand fo it01:17
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cotyhow do i compile my work in kdevelop01:18
N6REJphilfo1: u using the wacom?01:19
Nullbytepagan0ne: Try getting camstream01:19
philfo1I'm supern00b right now, so while you guys do the helping, i'm going to lurk & learn something01:19
drew__k i am a complete n00b so i really need help01:19
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philfo1no01:19
philfo1wacom?01:19
chijincoty: i suggest you start reading some guides, there are plenty of good ones on the web about ubuntu in general01:19
pagan0neN6REJ: i have it, how do i record?01:19
cotyok01:19
pagan0neerr01:19
N6REJk, lets ( writing tablet )  lets remove them from xorg.conf ( services section )01:19
pagan0neNullbyte: i have it, how do i record01:19
Nullbytepagan0ne: Did you read the manpage?01:19
Nullbytepagan0ne: I dont know how it works, but it looks promising :)01:20
drew__i cant run the jahshaka.sh. What should i do?01:20
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pagan0neNullbyte: only thing it seems to do to me, is save images not video from a webcam, and nothing to do with audio01:20
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Nullbytepagan0ne: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu? Maybe they know more about this :)01:21
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pagan0neNullbyte: thanks for directing me to a place where i may get more help, i havent tried that yet01:21
Nullbytepagan0ne: You are welcome :)01:21
N6REJnull can I comment them out from input device type also?01:21
drew__its an ubuntu installer tho, but it never runs01:22
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Arwenlol, Ubuntu's wine comes with minesweeper!01:22
Arwenw00t01:22
NullbyteN6REJ: What do you mean?01:22
eilker<pagan0ne> u r looking for ?01:22
philfo1I've had a similar problem lately with a few things drew__.  it may be running in the background so won't run itself as a duplicate01:23
drew__oh, but its a video editor01:23
pagan0neeilker: a ay to record video and audio off my webcam and soundcard....01:23
philfo1run top and see if it's running01:23
drew__and i ran thru the script and it propts for install01:23
orange1my algebra is really slacking - someone answer a quick question for me -- so i can finish this program -- whats the combined version of (a+bi)(a+bi)     (i = imaginary)01:23
N6REJNullbyte: neither philfo1 nor I have any wacom devices that we are aware of.  infact I've seen ubuntu complain about it.  SO wine says to # the wacom section of server layout but I also noticed them in devices section.  So should we comment out hose areas also?01:23
eilker!istanbul > pagan0ne01:24
eilker!xvidvap > pagan0ne01:24
eilker!recordmydesktop > pagan0ne01:24
NullbyteN6REJ: Yeah, I guess you should. I completely removed them, but I shouldnt really have done that.01:24
N6REJNullbyte: all references?01:24
philfo1phone01:25
N6REJcc01:25
philfo1back in a bit01:25
N6REJk01:25
NullbyteN6REJ: Yeah. If anything screws up, you can always uncomment it again :)01:25
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N6REJbrb01:25
aaroncampbellI am having a strange problem.  Firefox can access ubuntuforums.org, but not Google.com.  However, konqueror can access both01:25
aaroncampbellany ideas?01:25
Nullbyteaaroncampbell: o_ What error does firefox give?01:25
drew__i checked my backround tasks its not running01:26
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Arwenwhoa, beryl is way faster in Feisty, YAY01:26
aaroncampbellIt acts like the site doesn't exist....it tries for a while, and goes to "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.google.com."01:26
philfo1I've got no clue then.  I had a similar problem with ly first install01:27
varejaoPortugal?01:27
drew__k01:27
drew__i might be running it wrong01:27
drew__whats the command for a shell?01:27
N6REJphilfo1: query01:27
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BluesKaj!pt01:28
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.01:28
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Nullbytedrew__: its sh01:28
N6REJphilfo1: don't change your xorg.conf yet.01:28
Nullbytedrew__: Are you running it in a terminal?01:28
N6REJNullbyte: I think we are ok without changing it.01:28
drew__trying to01:29
N6REJNullbyte: inputdevice never calls the wacom01:29
drew__and in commandline out of kate01:29
NullbyteN6REJ: It shouldnt be a problem either, but comment it out if it causes problems01:29
philfo1give me the commandline to register again.  I am now philfo1 on my new install01:29
N6REJcc01:29
Nullbytedrew__: Is it executeable?01:29
N6REJbah01:30
Nullbytedrew__: write chmod +x nameoffile01:30
drew__oh crap01:30
N6REJBAH01:30
philfo1drew__ ???01:30
N6REJ"/msg"01:30
NullbyteN6REJ: Why are you saying cc all the time?01:31
drew__i have write permisson turned off01:31
N6REJcc= Carbon Copy01:31
Nullbytedrew__: write sudo chmod +x nameoffile01:31
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N6REJor CC = Credit Card :P01:32
NullbyteN6REJ: ^^01:32
=== N6REJ dang I've been a netifite far too long
=== N6REJ netiphite even
NullbyteN6REJ: What is that exactly? :)01:32
drew__how do i turn write permisson on?01:32
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N6REJdrew for what exactly?01:33
philfo1sudo before your command01:33
drew__i did01:33
Nullbytedidnt that work?01:33
brian__hello01:33
N6REJphilfo1: almost01:33
drew__still says write permisson off01:33
Nullbytebrian__: Hello to you too01:33
brian__thanks01:33
Nullbytedrew__: Where is the file located?01:33
N6REJdrew__: what are you try to do?01:33
drew__desktop01:33
Nullbytedrew__: o_01:33
drew__run a shl for the scond time01:33
N6REJdrew what shel?01:33
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drew__jahshaka01:34
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N6REJ!jahshaka01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jahshaka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:34
N6REJdrew__: have you added it to /etc/shells?01:34
philfo1netiphite.  from the etymology of the made up word it should read as someone who has been on the intarweb for far long than cool people would admit01:34
Nullbyteoo.01:34
brian__anyone here have problems with apt-get?01:34
NullbyteHow long would that be?01:34
N6REJphilfo1: amen!01:34
Nullbytebrian__: Not really, whats wrong?01:34
philfo1ha ha ha ha01:34
N6REJbrian__: nope01:34
N6REJ for far long than cool people would admit01:35
brian__trying to get mozila mplayer01:35
N6REJlol01:35
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brian__i use sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer....then it returns with no install package error01:35
Nullbytebrian__: Did you write sudo apt-get or just apt-get?01:36
N6REJstupid stupid konversation didn't register me01:36
brian__the whole thing01:36
drew__the shels folder is .ssh rite?01:36
N6REJbrian__:  sudo apt-cache search mplayer01:36
Nullbytedrew__: Nay, it is not.01:36
N6REJdrew__: let me look I don't think so.01:36
Nullbytedrew__: Tell me exactly what you are trying to do and how.01:36
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brian__okay- got it01:37
drew__run a installer shell01:37
N6REJOH!01:37
drew__dont know how01:37
Nullbytedrew__: Are you running it in a terminal?01:37
Dragoonboyhi, anyone here able to help with a mesa driver problem?01:37
drew__yeah01:37
brian__yes, in terminal01:37
drew__and it just gives me a batch of unknowns01:37
drew__and that null ping01:38
philfo1ok, while we're talking about computer issues...  how do I find if kubuntu is seeing my ATI graphics card?01:38
N6REJNullbyte: he may not have build-essentials or any of that installed01:38
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carutsu!ask|Dragoonboy01:38
ubotuDragoonboy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:38
N6REJphilfo1: darn, I knew this yesterday... let me look01:38
philfo1thx01:38
N6REJphilfo1: "glxinfo | grep "vendor" "01:38
N6REJleave out the first and last " of course01:38
philfo1thanks01:39
N6REJnp01:39
drew__okay to build this i need qhat builder?01:39
N6REJif it is all the lines will say "ati"01:39
carutsu!g++>carutsu01:39
BluesKajphilfo1, system settings/monitor&display/hardware /admin mode/graphics card configure , then monitor configure, apply01:39
N6REJheya blues01:39
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soulrideris there any way to add a CD full of .deb files as a repo ? so apt-get cna look for updates there01:39
hendaussomebody help me pleasae?>01:39
BluesKajhi N6REJ, what's shakin" ?01:39
Nullbytedrew__: I am not sure how it works01:39
Dragoonboyok, im trying to install beryl, however I can not get the mesa drivers unloaded. the ATI drivers do work with xfce. xgl will not run due to some obscure refrence to Xfree86 DRI.  am using feisty...01:39
drew__can beryl run on a intergrated chipset?01:39
Nullbytehendaus: We cant help you before you ask the question.01:40
N6REJ!wine01:40
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:40
soulrider#ubuntu+1 for feisty01:40
Dragoonboyah, thanks01:40
philfo1ok, using "glxinfo | grep "vendor" " I got a libgl warning that 3d driver claims to not support visual 0x4b01:40
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brian__PITA01:40
BluesKajN6REJ, do you run windows stuff in wine ?01:40
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drew__yes01:40
N6REJBluesKaj: not yet goig to01:40
philfo1BluesKaj: bash:system command not found01:41
hendausNullbyte,  thanx,everytime when i open amsn messenger it needs to update it,can u help me how to update it coz i am Newbie01:41
brian__that did not fix my mozilla mplayer problem01:41
drew__k i need help runnin this shl still01:41
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drew__its an installer shell01:42
N6REJphilfo1: what are you trying to do in bash?01:42
NullbyteWhat terminal are you using, drew__?01:42
drew__konsole01:42
brian__i'm trying to view www.ytmnd.com media01:42
BluesKajwondering about putting Kubuntu on wifes pc ...but she has this windows Solitaire game that she just simply ' luuuvs' and I'm wondering if I could install it .01:42
Nullbytedrew__: And what do you write to run it?01:42
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philfo1I tried to run this:  "system settings/monitor&display/hardware /admin mode/graphics card configure , then monitor configure, apply"01:42
N6REJBluesKaj: dunno01:42
drew__chmod01:42
philfo1I want my ATI GC running01:42
brian__i can view, listen to most media, but some, it asks me for plug-ins01:43
NullbyteBluesKaj: Just copy it over if you really need it, and run it in wine. There are much better card games for linux anyway :p01:43
N6REJphilfo1: thast not bash01:43
philfo1I think I need a proper driver01:43
N6REJthast kde!01:43
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carutsuBluesKaj most likely you may run it under wine01:43
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N6REJphilfo1: what did glx say?01:43
carutsuwine!|BluesKaj01:43
BluesKajyeah N6REJ, just thinking out loud ATM :)01:43
Nullbyte!ati > philfo101:43
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carutsu!wine|BluesKaj01:43
ubotuBluesKaj: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:43
philfo1thanks null01:44
brian__try www.ytmnd.com01:44
drew__heys i still need help tho01:44
philfo1back in a bit01:44
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drew__k    what other command will let me run it?01:44
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Nullbytephilfo1: You are welcome.01:44
BluesKajthx carutsu, I'm very aware of wine , AAMOF I have it installed :)01:44
carutsuBluesKaj: however if its a classic game a replacemetn, most likely will be avalible in the repostories01:44
hendaushelpers!!,everytime when i open amsn messenger it needs to update it,can u help me coz i am Newbie01:44
carutsuBluesKaj: oh, well, so what's the question01:45
carutsuer01:45
carutsuhendaus, because you installed from the repostories, it wants the newer vertion01:45
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hendauscarutsu,  how can i got the new version?01:45
carutsuhendaus: you either click "dont remind me or something like that" or download it from the the "oficial" web, which will install it in auto-package01:46
carutsuhendaus: *with auto01:46
BluesKajwell wondering about "Pretty good Solitaire" ...wife actually "bought" the game :)01:46
carutsuhendaus: http://amsn-project.net01:46
hendauscarutsu,  i am NEwbie friend can u please tell me how to install it01:47
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N6REJNullbyte: why is winehq telling me there is no gpg for the package?01:47
hendauscarutsu,  and tell me where is the setup file to download?01:47
NullbyteN6REJ: You didnt install the gpg key. Did you read the instructions?01:48
N6REJwhere?01:48
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N6REJphone01:48
NullbyteN6REJ: Wait, what package are we talking about?01:48
N6REJwine01:48
NullbyteRight01:48
carutsuhendaus: just open the link see the big flashy DOWNLOAD, click on it01:48
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NullbyteSo why should winehq say there isnt a gpg key?01:48
drew__how do i turn write permisson on?01:49
Nullbytedrew__: chmod +rw01:49
Nullbytehttp://winehq.org/site/download-deb <-- has all you need to know, N6REJ01:49
carutsuhendaus: since you already installed aMSN all the dependencies are already downloaded, so just uninstal aMSN, download the installer, give it run permisions (right click and check the allow runing...)01:49
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carutsuhendaus: and run it, no big deal trust me01:50
hendauscarutsu,  there are generic installer and  debian gentoo ubuntu... which one01:50
drew__it tells me that it dosent exist when it very well does!01:50
Porkotron!freenx01:50
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX01:50
Nullbytedrew__: Did you spell the filename properly?01:50
Nullbytedrew__: Its case sensitive you know.01:51
drew__il try retyping01:51
carutsuhendaus: ubuntu01:51
Nullbytedrew__: I would say its easier to use a * instead of writing the whole name01:51
brian__hey, anyone come across FireFox sayin  no Suitable Plugin were found. when trying to view flash type media?01:51
Nullbytebrian__: If it is shockwave, there is no support for it on linux, sorry.01:52
hendauscarutsu,  i dont know how to uninstall programs, on windows you can update it when i click on the installer file01:52
carutsuhendaus: no, no, no, that's the packages that are avalible on those distributions01:52
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drew__try running shockwave in wine01:52
carutsuhendaus: you have to download the first one, that's the autopackage01:52
brian__get Wine, then shockwave...01:53
drew__thnk you01:53
drew__now to TRY to run it01:53
carutsuhendaus: see, distribution independent01:53
brian__package Wine has no installation candidate01:54
carutsuhendaus: what's goin on?01:54
drew__write permisson it turned off AGAIN!01:54
brian__i get that on all my sudo apt=get sessions01:54
hendauscarutsu,  it says there 82 packeges available01:54
hendauscarutsu,  it says there 82 updated packeges available01:54
drew__well run em01:55
brian__hmm?01:55
carutsuhendaus: er where are you?01:55
hendauscarutsu,  you told me on the icon beside the clock where it says updated packages01:56
philfo1ok, ATI GC is running now.  the computer just keeps getting faster.01:57
hendauscarutsu,  sorry i am newbie on kubuntu and i want to know how to install a program01:57
carutsuhendaus: nop, i told you the distribution independant package01:57
carutsuhendaus: download this: http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/amsn/amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package01:57
brian__i'm stuck with this thing saying no installation candidate01:57
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carutsuhendaus: since kubuntu/ubuntu are so popular, mostly of the time you wouldn't have to worrie about this, it'll be avalible for download on the repostories, but of course mostly of the time is not the  newest version01:58
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drew__okay, im still having trubble with this pakage02:00
drew__sorry shell02:00
drew__how od i run an installer shell?02:00
brian__everytime i try to use sudo apt-get install... it says couldn't find installation candidate02:01
brian__what is the cause?02:01
philfo1ok, in order to use the man pages, I STILL need to know just what it is I'm looking for.  a bit of a frustration.02:02
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hendauscarutsu, ok done from the site, now it opens with kate,what can i do now02:02
philfo1I want to start at the b eginning.02:02
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carutsuhendaus: don't open it with kate02:03
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cmorrisonnewbie here...ne1 install the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 with Kubuntu?02:03
hendauscarutsu,  it opens auto with it02:03
philfo1belay my last02:03
carutsuhendaus: i know. close it and right click on the file02:03
carutsuhendaus: click properties02:03
carutsuhendaus: click in permissions, click is executable, then ok02:04
carutsuthen open it again02:04
cmorrisonand get all the functions to work?02:04
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N6REJsomenoe rang?02:04
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philfo1na' me02:05
carutsuhendaus: it's for safe, not everything should be executable unless YOU want to02:05
N6REJphilfo1: don't let me fall behind please in a conference in skype02:05
hendauscarutsu,  i cant found it02:05
drew__every time i try to run an install shell it dosent run02:06
drew__#bash./home/drew/desktop/jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh02:06
cotyok im taking an attempt at upgrading02:06
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cotyit's kind of confusing02:06
drew__should be the command but it dosent run02:06
philfo1oh, I'm not paying attention anymore, sorry.  I got sidetracked by the graphics card and now I'm figuring out man pages02:06
carutsuhendaus: err i'm not on an english KDE so should be something like that, you are using kubuntu right?02:06
philfo1and pizza is calling my name.02:06
hendauscarutsu,  yes02:06
carutsuhendaus: what's exactly what you dont find?02:07
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cotyhas anyone upgraded with the method with out the cd02:07
drew__yes just run adpt click on full install02:07
carutsucoty i tried, and didn't work02:07
hendauscarutsu,  i click on the link that u gave me,it opens with kate and then i close it02:07
cotyits so confusing02:07
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cotywhy cant they just make a programe just for upgrading02:08
carutsuhendaus, ok, ok mmm, dont click the link then, go to the site again02:08
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hendauscarutsu,  ok02:08
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carutsuhttp://amsn-project.net, click in the download icon, do you see the big blue package02:08
philfo1wouldn't coty have to drop the iso file to one drive, set BIOS to boot that drive first, boot up THEN do the install on another drive?02:08
hendauscarutsu,  yes02:08
brian__this is a PITA02:09
kelsa|martallicoty They do have a program, but it requires the CLI probably for a good reason02:09
N6REJphilfo1: hangon ati shouldn't be that hard02:09
cotyoh02:09
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philfo1whoa, whoa!02:09
carutsuhendaus: that's the installer, right click on it and click on "save link as..."02:09
kelsa|martalliIf you can't get into the CLI, you probably don't want to do an upgrade (esp since it may ver well break your X)02:09
philfo1N6REJ, I'm done with the ATI02:09
cotyso would it work if i did put the iso on one of my drives and booted from it02:09
phr0z3nhmm... where is xchat in adept? :-/ not xchat-gnome02:09
philfo1in theory02:09
N6REJphilfo1: oh ok.. I'll shut up I'm on skype anyway02:09
carutsuhendaus: or something like that, remember i dont use KDE on english02:09
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N6REJphilfo1: restart x and then run the glxinfo command again02:10
philfo1you'd be using your alternate drive as a "CD" boot device02:10
philfo1ah right.  thanks N^02:10
philfo1n602:10
philfo1bah!02:10
philfo1back in a few02:10
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hendauscarutsu,  so u have kde on what?02:11
carutsuhendaus: spanish02:11
hendauscarutsu,  asi me parace mucho mejor02:12
hendausparece*02:12
carutsuhendaus: let's go to #kde-es02:12
brian__how is best way to manage repositories?02:12
hendausok02:12
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neilhey guys, how do i change my default browser?02:13
neillinks in irc open in konqueror not firefox...02:14
philfo1N6REJ: what do I do with this info now?02:14
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N6REJphilfo1: glxinfo | grep "vendor"02:14
N6REJmake sure that all 3 lines say ATI02:14
philfo1nope02:15
N6REJany of the?02:15
N6REJthem?02:15
philfo1SGI, ATI, Tungsten Graphics02:15
N6REJrestart your pc02:15
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philfo1thanks02:15
N6REJnp02:15
philfo1back in a few02:15
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N6REJk02:15
cotyIs there anothe linux out there that lets you install it without the cd02:15
brian__couldn't find mozilla-mplayer...what is going on with that02:16
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Admiral_Chicagobrian__: do you have universe installed02:17
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brian__not sure, well i enabled them all meta, universe02:17
neilanyone know how to change the default browser in (k)ubuntu?02:17
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Morbokmenu -> system settings -> default applications, neil02:18
brian__Admiral...just a sec...02:18
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brian__the updates are coming in...:)02:19
Admiral_Chicagothat should do it02:20
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philfo1N6REJ: still STI, ATI, Tungsten Graphics02:26
N6REJthen someting is wrong02:27
philfo1bah!02:27
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=== N6REJ grand central station around here
philfo1perhaps I'll have to do the card specific driver install02:28
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N6REJphilfo1: yes, thats the best02:28
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=== N6REJ thats one of the reason I like nvidia :D
nosrednaekimhey.... just tried out fiesty...02:28
philfo1should I get that off of my CD?  or just go through the website?02:28
philfo1I need to find out which version it is.02:29
philfo1N6, you still doing the Wine install?02:29
N6REJphilfo1: yes but I'm waiting on you too02:30
philfo1I haven't even started!  sorry!  I was trying to keep up, but you guys lost me (and the traffic coming through didn't help) right after the beginning.02:30
N6REJphilfo1: can > you get me a copy of cs, my key to my pirated copy and its mate is gone!  I hate to admit it but I don't own a recent verion of ps02:30
philfo1neither do I02:31
N6REJphilfo1: np, I'm only at the beginning.02:31
N6REJLOL02:31
N6REJI can tell you the directions are stupid.02:31
brian__http://makeyourownscientologyfad.ytmnd.com/02:31
philfo1in fact I'm not sure how an illegal install will work in Wine.  that's been a topic of discussion at work02:31
N6REJthey tell you AFTER you've done things how to do it right02:32
brian__i can't get audio on this site02:32
philfo1right.02:32
nosrednaekimbrian__: is it flash?02:32
brian__i think so02:32
philfo1is there a way right now to detect which radeon version card I have so I can download the proper driver?02:32
brian__someone i know got KUBUNTU to load this properly02:32
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philfo1gotcha02:33
philfo1still not registered for PM's02:33
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griphiamI have what seems like a very basic question... how do I record PCM output???02:33
N6REJphilfo1: np02:33
carutsu!IIRC02:34
ubotuIIRC means "if I remember correctly"02:34
griphiamI've searched and there seems to be nothing on it02:34
philfo1this time I'm going to use the old pen & paper to write everything down02:34
N6REJrotflmbo!02:34
philfo1send me that registration command again02:34
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eilkerubotu super ehehe "if I remember correctly"02:34
ubotusuper: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (edgy), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB02:34
N6REJphilfo1: did you dge tthat phil?02:34
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griphiameven if it was via the command line, I'd take it at this point02:35
carutsuscuse me is there a way to get code completition in Kate02:35
carutsu?02:35
N6REJcarutsu: plugins?02:36
nosrednaekimyes...02:36
carutsuN6REJ eh? i didnt know there were plug ins for kate02:37
Jucatocaurkate-plugins02:37
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Jucatocarutsu: kate-plugins02:38
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carutsuok02:38
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N6REJcarutsu: sudo apt-cache search is your friend02:38
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hayden__N6REJ: don't need to sudo when searching ;)02:39
N6REJOH02:39
N6REJlol02:39
carutsuapt-cache?02:39
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carutsui'm installing it02:39
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carutsuxD02:40
carutsuscuse me i didnt see it when i hadn't installed the plugins so, there are only 4 of them?02:41
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phr0z3nI guess nobody ever figured out if you can actually xchat via adept eh? :-/02:42
Jucatoxchat via adept?02:42
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phr0z3nyou know..02:42
Jucatocarutsu: there are two plugin locations in Kate02:43
phr0z3nthe package manager for kubuntu.02:43
Jucatocarutsu: try looking under the Applications -> Plugins02:43
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BluesKajphr0z3n,  irssi in the terminal02:43
griphiamdoes anyone know what item under /dev would map to the audio output?02:43
phr0z3nah, irssi FTW then :-P02:43
phr0z3ntoo bad all they have is xchat-gnome :-/02:44
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phr0z3nseriouslky, why package that when its kubuntu.02:44
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Jucato!info xchat02:44
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB02:44
Jucatophr0z3n: what do you mean? Ubuntu and Kubuntu have the same repositories02:44
Jucatoso what Ubuntu has, Kubuntu has too. and vice versa02:44
Jucatophr0z3n: the plain xchat is found in universe. you'd have to enable it if you haven't yet02:45
phr0z3nJucato: oh, my bad :-/02:45
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philfo1question:  when running the GC driver update shown here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  where it says to append lines at the end of a file, is that all in one command line?02:47
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carutsuJucato: oh there are 2 categories!, thats weird, plugins for editor and for the aplication02:48
neilhow do you change the default browser for handling links in konversation, anyone know? system uses firefox, but konversation uses konqueror >:(02:48
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Jucatocarutsu: yes. because the editor part of kate is used not just in kate, as I mentioned in #kde02:48
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N6REJsomehow I don't think I got wine working right.02:49
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firephotophilfo1: just change the proper section of the file to look like they show.02:49
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philfo1they are spaced out over three lines though.02:49
carutsuJucatoL xD02:49
philfo1is that three separate commands?02:49
firephotophilfo1: yes, 3 lines, you mean the composite one right?02:50
philfo1yup02:50
firephotophilfo1: yes, you need to open the file with an editor though, kate, nano... with sudo02:50
philfo1so I do:  "/etc/x11/xorg.conf with the addidtions and run that 3 times?02:51
philfo1what?  not konsole?02:51
firephotophilfo1: no,  if you're in a konsole, run 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' then add those lines to the end of the file.02:51
philfo1gotit.  jsut figured that out.  I was modifying the actual file itself.  thx02:52
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carutsuJucato: EXCELENT i can say bye to MSVC++02:54
Jucato:D02:54
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carutsuJucato just a question if i compile say void main() { cout<<"Hello world"; } under linux, will it run under windows?02:55
philfo1ok, how to save that file?  ":w" ??02:55
Jucatocarutsu: the executable file itself? I don't think so. but you can recompile the source code on Windows using a standards-compliant compiler (if your code is standards-compliant as well)02:56
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carutsuJucato i'm not a guru but i think is most likelly is standards-compilant02:57
Jucatocarutsu: for more questions, try #ubuntu-programming or ##c++02:57
carutsuthank you02:57
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eilker!zorg02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zorg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
Arwenzorg?02:58
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Arwen!zork02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
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Arwenhow can ubotu not know zork????02:59
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eilkerarwen: i dont know zork too :D02:59
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arihello03:02
arii just installed VBA express (a game boy emulator) and i wanted to know what games can i play on it and how do i install them !?!03:04
philfo1firephoto: after i've edited the composite extension, how do I save and exit?03:05
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firephotophilfo1: ctrl+o then enter, then ctrl+x03:07
philfo1thanks03:09
firephotophilfo1: you can do the same thing next time (or whenever) by running 'kdesu kate /my/file' from the run dialog (alt+f2)03:09
philfo1ok, thanks03:09
firephotofor system files.03:09
firephotoyou lose the sudo or kdesu part for your /home files03:10
BluesKajI DL'd a tarbz2 file and untarred it , then I cd to the folder , but ./configure cmnd gives me "./configure: No such file or directory"...what gives, I thought that command was supposed to start installing the file ?03:11
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ArwenBluesKaj, ls the output and pastebin03:12
philfo1firephoto: ok, still with that page, am I to start X again now or continue running the next command lines?03:12
Arwenor, ls the dir and then pastebin the output03:12
philfo1this all just reads really odd & is not very concise03:12
ArwenBluesKaj, ./configure refers to an automagic script in MOST tarballs, not all03:12
N6REJphilfo1: you back yet?03:13
BluesKajok Arwen, what's the alternative ?03:13
philfo1i'm still working on the ATI thing03:13
firephotophilfo1: it looks like you should be good to go if you made it that point following the instructions.03:13
N6REJk03:13
firephotophilfo1: just restart X or reboot the system.03:13
ArwenBluesKaj, dunno, pastebin a list of the files in there03:13
raffytaffyi set up TOR and PRIVOXY with azureus and it seems to be working good. i get NAT error during test with someone elses IP ...yet the NAT in the bottom is green heh03:13
philfo1ok.  I can restart X from konsole, correct?03:13
Arwenraffytaffy, piping bt through tor is a good way to get banned :-)03:14
N6REJfirephoto: you know how to samba?03:14
raffytaffybanned from what?03:14
Arwentor03:14
raffytaffythey can ban you?03:14
firephotoN6REJ: no.03:14
Arwenyes03:14
N6REJdarn03:14
raffytaffyArwen: how do u know this? did u get banned?03:15
Arwenbesides, tor + bt = teh slow03:15
philfo1back in a bit folks03:15
Arwenraffytaffy, I run a tor server03:15
wendyI NEED HELP IN SPANISH03:15
firephotophilfo1: just log out, and then restart the X from the menu on the login screen.03:15
Arwennot much of one, but it is a tor server03:15
N6REJ!es | wendy03:15
ubotuwendy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:15
Arwenraffytaffy, oh wait, if you're just sending tracker requests through tor, that's fine03:15
raffytaffyyes arwen .thats what im doin03:15
raffytaffyso the tracker dont have my IP03:15
raffytaffyim using DHT03:15
Arwenhehe, there we go03:15
raffytaffyso im not putting any load on TOR:P03:16
Arwenraffytaffy, if you use DHT, then when the *AA does a DHT request, they'll see you03:16
raffytaffycept maybe a few kbps from web browser03:16
BluesKajArwen is the pysol-4.82-src.tar.bz2 file ...it's mostly solitaire games written in python , if that's any help03:16
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ArwenBluesKaj, ... guess I'll take a look at it03:16
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raffytaffyhmm. so what can i do Arwen03:16
BluesKajhttp://www.pysol.org/03:17
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Arwenraffytaffy, turn off DHT? but that's still futile as the other clients might still log your ip03:17
Arwenbasically, you can't torrent anonymously03:17
N6REJbrb dinner03:17
raffytaffyi dont upload thou03:17
Arwenraffytaffy, that's called leeching....03:17
Arwendon't do it03:17
kristjan_hello. any comments on why wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O - | sudo apt-key add - does not work here? (it won't ask for password) do I need to install gnome terminal for that?03:17
raffytaffyehh03:17
N6REJsomeone please tell phil I'll be back in about 30 minutes03:17
ArwenBluesKaj, hmm.... just a bunch of py files, I'll have to check their instructions03:18
Arwenmaybe each py is independent?03:18
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soulriderraffytaffy: they will still get you :P03:18
soulriderwhat you can do though, is use a peerguardian blocklist03:19
soulriderand block all "bad" ips :P03:19
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raffytaffywhere do i find such a list soulrider?03:19
soulriderbut if you are in private trackers its sort of pointless03:19
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soulriderraffytaffy: i havnt used one in a while so youre gonna have to google it03:19
philfo1ok folks, not good.03:19
soulrideryou can install peerguardian03:19
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soulrideror convert a peerguardian blicklist for use with iptables03:19
Arwenraffytaffy, google for peerguardian - it'll keep you away from the riaa, but they can still find you buy getting a peers list from someone you're connected to03:20
soulriderpeerguardian is better though03:20
soulrideri hate hte ri/mpaa03:20
raffytaffywhat if i simply block american IP range/03:20
raffytaffy?03:20
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soulriderraffytaffy: if youre not in america i dont know if theyc an sue you03:20
Arwenraffytaffy, it's a matter of probability, you'll never be anywhere near 100% safe03:20
Arwenraffytaffy, and what soulrider said03:21
raffytaffywell i dont d/l american media at all03:21
soulriderim not in america, so screw it :P03:21
raffytaffyonly european trance03:21
Arwenseriously, just be a normal pirate and seed back...03:21
soulriderthey dont give a crap then03:21
raffytaffywhat if i proxy my peer to peer connection03:22
raffytaffyhmm03:22
raffytaffythats an option03:22
soulriderraffytaffy: if you download euro trance they wont even bother with you03:22
raffytaffyok good03:22
Arwenraffytaffy, that'll be really really really slow03:22
raffytaffyi suppose i could use my neighboors wireless signal ...he dont encrypt it03:22
Arwenbesides, if they ever talk to you, start an emergency low-level format and say an ip isn't a person03:23
soulriderlol03:23
Arwen^^ - best way to get rid of em03:23
raffytaffyi didnt think a civil matter can entail a warrant and search and seizure03:23
soulriderthe riaa can bite me in the bum :P03:23
Arwenraffytaffy, the RIAA is god03:24
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Arwenseriously though, if you just argue that IP != person, you're good to go03:24
soulriderlook03:24
soulriderif you downlaod euro trance03:24
soulriderthey wont care03:24
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Arwenwtf is euro trance?03:24
soulriderbecause its EURO03:24
soulrider:P03:24
soulridertrance from europe03:24
raffytaffyif anything i was gonna use the open wireless router excuse03:24
soulriderreally annoying music :P03:24
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BluesKajagreed soulrider... trance is nothing but boom boom repeated ad nauseum ... sampled and stolen from other artists aso DJ'd into new sounds ,03:29
Jucato!offtopic03:30
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:30
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McFrostyWhat are some options for sharing webcam's? .. Until Gaim adds support :(03:31
cotywhat should i use to use my wifi max wifi antena03:32
cotyi cant seem to get anthing to make it work03:32
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cotyHas anyone heard of the wifi max?03:33
cotyit is a wifi antena that connects to the pc to make a wifi hotspot through usb03:33
dwidmanndustin@terra:~/Music$ vorbisgain -a -f -r */*/*.ogg03:33
dwidmannbash: /usr/bin/vorbisgain: Argument list too long03:33
dwidmanncrud03:33
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dwidmannsince when is 3000 arguments too many :(03:34
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Arwendwidmann, tried using for?03:34
dwidmannArwen, not yet, but I suppose I could do that03:35
soulriderBluesKaj: lets go to offtopic :P03:35
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cotydoes anyone know what i should use?03:36
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cotythat sucks03:37
cotyanyone else03:37
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philfo1ok got the ATI GC working properly!03:38
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surgyim trying to run a windows game through cedega, and i am getting an error saying, i need to install an activeX component so the game can luanch my browser.03:39
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n33ok .., i found info on my tv card.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2485586 it apparently works.. can anyone help talk me through configuring this to work with tvtime?03:40
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cotyso does anyone know of an app for wifi antenas03:42
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orient2000Hi! I have a problem with shutdown. Screen is getting dark and does not shuts down. I can only reset. 6.10 fresh install updated.03:43
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orient2000Hi! I have a problem with shutdown. Screen is getting dark and does not shuts down. I can only reset. 6.10 fresh install updated.03:47
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raffytaffymy adpet is trying to update to kdelibs4 ... i have kde3.5 -> edgy03:49
raffytaffyshould i let it?03:49
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a-u-51should be fine03:50
philfo1is there any utility or text editor that will open .dbf files?03:50
a-u-51lol03:50
raffytaffyi installed something called moblock on my edgy03:51
raffytaffyi hope it works03:51
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spitwisephilfo1: gnumeric03:52
philfo1thanks03:52
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tulio__hey, can I install compiz an beryl03:55
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tulio__or they cannot run together03:55
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tulio__!xgl03:57
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:57
crdlbtulio__, you can install both03:57
crdlbthey do not conflict03:57
tulio__is beryl stable03:58
n33ok .., i found info on my tv card.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2485586 it apparently works.. can anyone help talk me through configuring this to work with tvtime?03:58
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draikIs it just me or are any of you having issues with the new kernel?04:00
tulio__dont know04:01
Admiral_Chicagodraik: what version?04:01
tulio__i havent updated my kernel yet04:01
draikSysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 341/764GB, RAM: 977/3035MB, 115 proc's, 36.28min up04:01
draikAdmiral_Chicago: The version would be 2.6.17-11-generic04:02
Admiral_Chicagohmm, not sure, I don't run Edgy anymore04:02
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draikI can run this kernel without issues.04:02
Admiral_Chicagodraik: define 'issues' please04:02
draikCLI login04:02
Admiral_Chicagoyou can only log in via CLI?04:02
draikstartx will not work04:02
draikcorrect04:03
Admiral_Chicagowhat does sudo startx say?04:03
draikI don't know.04:03
Admiral_Chicagoshould spit out an error as "EE: some text"04:03
draikI just went back to 10-generic04:03
Admiral_Chicagohmm, thats really strang04:03
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Jucatowas nvidia-glx on Edgy upgraded to 9755?04:03
draikI will be sure to do that and get back to you on that.04:03
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Jucatodoesn't seem like it...04:05
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Jucatodraik: feel free to ping me if you get some error messages04:06
Admiral_Chicagoor me04:06
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: ping...I have a problem....04:06
draikJucato: Will do. At this moment I'm in the middle of writing something important and cannot do a real-time troubleshoot.04:07
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: what? :P04:07
Admiral_Chicagojking04:07
Jucato:P04:07
Jucatodraik: sure. no problem. I'm online for the next 2 hours. just studying04:07
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draikThank you both Jucato and Admiral_Chicago04:07
tulio__does anyone here have an IBM laptop04:07
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daskreech2shazam!04:09
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nixternalthanks chanserv04:10
tulio__Jucato: what04:10
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: about time you do some #kubuntu work04:10
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daskreech2heehee04:10
Jucatoheh :)04:10
Jucatotulio__: nothing04:10
tulio__ok04:11
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nixternalhe is AFK messing with a Windows box more than likely04:11
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Jucatobah humbug!04:12
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daskreech2is that messing as in forarding the state of bug 1?04:12
felipe_night04:12
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daskreech2ok I have KDE related questions04:12
Jucatoshoot04:13
daskreech2Can I span an audio CD ?04:13
Jucato(let's see if someon will answer)04:13
Jucatospan?04:13
daskreech2yeah04:13
tulio__how do i hide the windows from other desktops04:13
Jucatotulio__: right-click on the panel, configure panel, taskbar options04:13
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Jucatouncheck [ ]  Show windows from other desktops04:14
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Jucatodaskreech2: ah hm... not familiar with spanning or Audio CD's.04:14
Jucatonext!04:14
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N6REJback04:15
nixternaldaskreech2: yes you can span an audio cd. Take a certain amount of songs and add it to CD1, when it is full burn, take the remaining songs and put them on CD2, then burn. Welcome to spanning 101 nixternal style :)04:15
nixternaldaskreech2: is it an iso file or something that is larger than 700mb?04:16
daskreech2yes04:16
N6REJcan anyone help with samba?04:16
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daskreech2say a mp3 about 5or so hundred megs04:16
nixternalN6REJ: I wish I could, my Samba is broke right now04:16
N6REJ:(04:16
NightBirda game I was running crashed and left the screen in a weird resolution... how do I fix it?04:16
nixternalNightBird: ctrl+alt+backspace04:16
nixternaljust restart x04:17
nixternalQuake 3 does it to me all of the time04:17
tulio__Jucato: didnt see any option for hiding them04:17
NightBirdnixternal, I know there is a way to do it04:17
NightBirdI used to have a script, but I lost it at some point..04:17
Jucatotulio__: are you using Beryl, by any chance?04:17
nixternalNightBird: if you know, let me know. I am sick of restarting x all of the time :)04:17
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NightBirdwill do04:17
philfo1does anyone out there use a ColorVision Spyder2 Express to calibrate monitor settings04:18
nixternalphilfo1: not unless you have one to give me. I have 2 LCDs that need calibration04:18
N6REJback philfo104:18
tulio__no, not yet04:19
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N6REJphilfo1: you get it installed ?04:19
Jucatotulio__: hm? so nothing in the Taskbar options of Configure Panel? it should be at the top04:19
daskreech2so you can't span a single file across two CD?04:19
philfo1the spyder vision2?04:19
Jucatodaskreech2: that I don't now... :/04:19
N6REJphilfo1: nah, wine/ps04:19
philfo1nope04:20
N6REJoh04:20
N6REJwhy you cal'n now ?04:20
hazardanyone have anyidea what a GNUmake failed assertion means?04:20
argoneli've got a user-specific video problem.. this one account thinks its in 16-bit colour, and i can't seem make it believe otherwise - looking for a suggestion on what it could be04:21
philfo1I just got my monitor cal that I ordered last week.04:21
N6REJphilfo1: no way!04:21
N6REJyou bought one!04:21
tulio__option: sort alphabetically, show only minimized, show apllication icons, show window list button04:21
philfo1uh yeah04:21
N6REJOMG, course I know why but still04:21
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McFrostyI resized the menu bar (not sure the correct term) and when I make something full screen it leaves a little space between the menu bar and the window that is open. I like I set it to medium instead of the size it was. Curious how to get my windows to fill up the space when full screen04:21
daskreech2should I bug someone in KDE?04:21
Jucatotulio__: weird... that bug only happens when you're running beryl or compiz04:22
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Jucatodaskreech2: prolly :)04:22
philfo1before I did the big switch to LINUX04:22
N6REJphilfo1: lets get ps in and the it will walk through with it04:22
N6REJphilfo1: ah04:22
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: i do work in here as much as I can. bit busy, got a few more projects going now. Xubuntu Marketing Manager as of today, not sure what that means yet :)04:22
tulio__im runnig compiz04:22
tulio__not beryl04:22
tulio__yet04:22
daskreech2Admiral_Chicago: it means you've been Xed!04:22
philfo1so, here's the 411 lately:  I got the ATI graphics card working properly, but my computer is back to slow again.04:22
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: that means you aren't Kool anymore04:22
Jucatotulio__: ah same thing I guess04:22
N6REJphilfo1: ouch!04:23
tulio__not the same04:23
tulio__not exactly04:23
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: good bye :(04:23
philfo1I think i want to use the gimp instead of PS.04:23
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nixternalhahahahahah04:23
Jucatotulio__: I meant that it has thesame bug04:23
Admiral_Chicago:(04:23
N6REJgot I had ati cards04:23
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N6REJk04:23
philfo1because of what we talked about earlier04:23
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: at least now you have a reason not to "work" on #kubuntu04:23
Jucato:P04:24
nixternaloooh04:24
N6REJyeah, I can hear that, my only fear with gimpshOP vs straight gimp is we have to lock down the libs unless we do it the other way.04:24
philfo1but as soon as Adobe releases the port, I'm going to buy it for Linucks04:24
philfo1that muct be the Canadian version...04:24
nixternalhaha04:24
Admiral_Chicagohey, i do work here, never help in #xubuntu ever.04:24
Jucatolol04:24
philfo1yeah, locking down the lib is one issue, but remember that there is active development in gimpshop04:24
N6REJphilfo1: thinking about this realistically04:25
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N6REJphilfo1: not from what I saw, 2006 was last change.04:25
tulio__Jucato: any way for fixing04:25
philfo1and the library will eventually be updated.04:25
NightBirdwell...04:25
Jucatotulio__: only from the compiz/berly end of things I think04:25
NightBirdI sort of found a fix...04:25
philfo1yeah, but what are you losing with that old library?04:25
daskreech2Admiral_Chicago: so you mean to tell us that your work from here shone so bright they picked it up in #xubuntu ?04:25
NightBirdthat would be easy enough to figure out once and put in a script, but it's not auto detecting or anything like that..04:25
dwidmannphilfo1: is that an if or a when?04:25
NightBirdxrandr -s <width>x<height>04:26
philfo1so I think I DO need to install Wine so I can use my new monitor Cal04:26
N6REJphilfo1: I don't know let me invesitage it some... might be a lot.04:26
Admiral_Chicagodaskreech2: actually more like they have way less people developing, i though i'd help out.04:26
NightBirdnixternal: try that next time it doesn't work04:26
N6REJI'm thinking so. butt.. .I haven't checked the site yet or wineapp either04:26
philfo1right.04:26
tulio__=\04:26
daskreech2ahh yeah that works04:26
Admiral_Chicagotulio__: #ubuntu-effects may be able to help you out as well04:26
daskreech2why not gnewsense?04:26
tulio__thanks04:26
daskreech2or better #fluxbuntu ?04:26
nixternalNightBird: will do04:26
daskreech2or worse #ebuntu ?04:26
tulio__what is the ascii code for the slash04:26
philfo1i'm kind of a Luddite (funny because I'm using a computer...) and believe that working stuff doesn't need to be fixed better unless it's a major fix04:27
N6REJlet me go do some reading really quick and see what I can read about GSP04:27
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N6REJphilfo1: well, I can understand the rationality to that.04:27
philfo1i'm going to try to find a hack for the monitor cal04:27
BluesKaj#eyebuntucandy :)04:27
N6REJOH I just thought of something.04:27
philfo1yes?04:27
daskreech2BluesKaj: HA! that's classic04:27
N6REJwiat brain fart, let me gather it back together.04:28
N6REJgot it.04:28
philfo1does it have to do with the fact that my cal dev is a windoz version?04:28
N6REJthat version you used?  They intentionally compiled it without gutenprint04:28
N6REJYOU WANT gutenprint!04:28
BluesKajhey daskreech2, how's things ?04:28
philfo1oh crap.  I can't use my i9100?04:28
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daskreech2hey BluesKaj got flu?04:29
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N6REJno, GSP, hang on let me go see something... .brb04:29
BluesKajbummer ;(04:29
pirothezerohow can I go straight to delete from the system completely and skip trash ?04:29
pirothezeroalso whats the trash directory?04:29
philfo1my driver isn't through gutenprint, it's the other one that was available and recommended04:29
a-u-51has anyone changed there keyboard layout by changing xorg.conf? where do i go to find out the identifier name?04:30
N6REJphilfo1: I don't think you'll get the q you need without gutenprint!04:30
philfo1quality?04:30
N6REJunless nix has an EXACT PPD for it.04:30
N6REJyeah04:30
a-u-51*thier04:30
a-u-51their lol04:30
philfo1I'm not so much worried about that because i work at a custom hybrid wet/dry lab04:30
NightBirdhttp://static.scribd.com/docs/736egzypod07v_files/image009.jpg04:30
N6REJphilfo1:  join gsp04:31
philfo1and do my printing with real silver process there, not here.04:31
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philfo1gsp?04:31
N6REJtype "/join gsp"04:31
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a-u-51xkbmodel "pc128" i dont want to try that and have it fail04:33
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a-u-51some uses volume keys on their keyboard...04:35
a-u-51someone04:35
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davidhi04:36
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davidhow can I send a message using dbus to an app? (audacious)04:36
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pirothezerowhy is it that folder file size isn't in the detailed view in a file manager and you have to right click or use a program like filelight to see folder sizes04:40
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mikehey i was wondering if someone can help me install Adobe Flash Player?04:44
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daskreech2!flash904:45
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash04:45
daskreech2!flash04:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:46
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mike!flash904:46
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash04:46
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mikecan you help me do it, im new to Kubuntu, so im really confused04:47
qbertargh, why cant i find emacs in my adept manager ??04:47
mikei have it downloaded and saved to the desktop, now how do i install it, its not like windows at all04:47
qbertcan someone else search for it and verify its there ?04:47
daskreech2mike: hmm04:47
daskreech2mike: what version of kubuntu are you using?04:48
Morboqbert: becase emacs is evil04:48
mikehow do i find out?04:48
qbertall your base belong to emacs04:48
qbertMorbo: can you search for it please ?04:48
daskreech2hmm04:49
daskreech2mike: can you open a konsole?04:49
mikekonsole?04:49
daskreech2mike: alt+space04:49
daskreech2type konsole04:49
MorboI see it, qbert04:49
daskreech2press enter04:49
qberthmm, can you give me your sources.list urls pls ? thx04:50
Morboqbert: It's in main04:50
mikethe terminal came up04:50
Morboqbert: do aptitude search emacs04:50
MorboSee what happens04:50
qberthttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted that one ?04:50
Jucatocarutsu: enable the -backports repository (edgy-backports if you're on Edgy) and "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" (don't use Adept)04:51
qbertwhy does it say restricted04:51
daskreech2mike: ok type cat /etc/issue04:51
Morborestricted is one of the repos, qbert04:51
mikeUbuntu 6.1004:51
MorboIt's officially-supported stuff that is non-free04:51
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carutsuJucato i already have it installed04:51
daskreech2alright04:51
carutsuJucato the problem is Konqueror doesnt find it04:52
qbertmy aptitutde search comes up with nothing -- argh , i just installed this yesterday04:52
Jucatocarutsu: you said you installed it for Firefox04:52
daskreech2mike: alt+space -> adept -> <enter>04:52
mikeadept manager?04:52
daskreech2yes04:52
Jucatocarutsu: if you installed it from the package manager, both Firefox and Konqueror will be able to find it04:53
daskreech2mike: tell me when it's open04:53
carutsuJucato nop Konqueror still uses the old one, i know because it has a bug and the sound isn't sync with the video04:53
mikeits open04:53
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daskreech2mike: ok under the adept menu click manage repositories04:54
mikeokay i did04:54
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daskreech2you have a list of servers?04:54
Jucatocarutsu: in Konqueror, type in "about:plugins" and check which version of Flash it uses04:54
mikeyes04:54
carutsuJucato i forced konqueror and added the folder (although it already was) and now it works04:55
Jucatocarutsu: if you installed Flash 9 using Firefox's installer, it might not have put it in a directory that Konqueror can scan04:55
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Jucatook04:55
carutsuJucato Shockwave Flash 9.0 r3104:55
daskreech2ok look for a line that has universe at the end04:55
ForgeAushey all :)04:55
daskreech2Jucato: can you give me some help with the URL?04:56
carutsuJucato: I still have Shockwave Flash 7.0 r6104:56
carutsuJucato: xD i have booth04:56
Jucatocarutsu: where are you getting that Flash 9.0 r31 then? Konqueror's about:plugins?04:56
Jucatodaskreech2: which URL?04:56
Jucatocarutsu: yeah because you didn't install through the package manager04:56
carutsuJucato i did i swear04:57
carutsuJucato04:57
mikei dont see one with Universe04:57
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carutsuJucato i even did it twice xD uninstalled and then reinstaled04:57
daskreech2Jucato: universe repos url04:57
Jucatocarutsu: howw did you install flash 9 for firefox then?04:57
carutsuJucato actually Firefox came 'couse i installed flash-nonfree04:58
Jucatohm...04:58
carutsuJucato: with apt-get04:58
Jucatoah04:58
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echosypcan i lock certain processes to a specific interface04:58
Jucatodaskreech2: deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe <--- ??04:59
daskreech2yeah04:59
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daskreech2mike: you don't see a line that looks like that?04:59
carutsuJucato: weird huh?04:59
mikeno i dont04:59
mikeoh wait05:00
daskreech2really?05:00
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mikeit says us.archive.ubuntu.com05:00
daskreech2right05:00
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daskreech2that's fine05:00
daskreech2and there is deb-src line right under it?05:00
mikeokay now what05:00
daskreech2highlight it and click enable05:00
ForgeAuswhere does konqueror store its user agent strings?05:00
mikeyes05:00
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daskreech2mike: ok now double click the word universe05:01
daskreech2you should be able to to edit it05:01
ForgeAusnot the websites that associate with them the actual user agents05:01
daskreech2put the word multiverse after the word universe05:01
mikei dont see any word named universe05:01
ForgeAus(just a string like eg: Lynx/2.8.4rel.1 libwww-FM/2.1405:01
daskreech2mike: sure?05:02
ForgeAusor: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; ; Linux armv5tejl; U) Opera 8.02 [en_US]  Maemo browser 0.4.31 N770/SU-1805:02
mikeyes im sure05:02
daskreech2mike: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe ?05:02
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ForgeAusmike if you have main in there just add space universe space multiverse05:02
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daskreech2whats at the end of the line that you are looking at?05:03
mikei see in grey "UNIVERSE WILL NOT RECIEVE ANY REVIEW OR UPDATES FROM UBUNTU SECURITY"05:03
echosypcan i lock certain processes to a specific interface05:03
daskreech2ah05:03
daskreech2look below that :-)05:03
ForgeAusfor a line that starts with deb or deb-src05:03
mikeunder that it says05:03
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mikedeb us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu05:04
daskreech2can you scroll over a little?05:04
golum83hi i am trying to install beryl in a sony vaio with Radeon Mobility M6 LY can some one help me05:04
mikeif i scroll over it says Edgy05:04
daskreech2a little more :-)05:04
ForgeAusif this is in adept (the kubuntu package manger) under manage repositories it should have a few columns05:05
mikeit wont let me scroll over anymore05:05
ForgeAusthats strange05:05
mikeit says u....05:05
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mikeim guessing thats it05:05
mikebut it wont let me scroll over05:05
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ForgeAuscan you expand the column that says u... ?05:06
mikeno i cant05:06
ForgeAus(up above that should be some headings for each column you generally can click the bars between them to resize05:06
mikeoOo i got it05:07
mikeokay i see universe05:07
ForgeAusif you click in there you can add multiverse to it :)05:07
mikeso "multiverse universe"05:07
daskreech2yes05:07
mikeokay done05:08
ForgeAuswell I'd personally go the other way around but sure05:08
daskreech2you enabled the line?05:08
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ForgeAusthen you have to apply05:08
mikehow do i enable it?05:08
ForgeAus(or save)05:08
daskreech2right click it05:08
mikeclick apply05:08
mikeif i right click it says05:08
daskreech2right click and enable it first05:08
ForgeAusok now it shouldn't be greyed out05:08
mike"disable, remove  & clone"05:08
daskreech2mike: ok hit apply and you should be good05:09
daskreech2then close05:09
daskreech2!flash905:09
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash05:09
neko_hello everybody, i have some question ...05:09
ForgeAuscongrats you just added the multiverse repository!05:09
daskreech2mike: whoops05:09
daskreech2wiat a bit05:09
Morbo!ask | neko_05:09
ubotuneko_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:09
daskreech2you may need edgy-backports05:09
ForgeAusedgy backports is just a clone of that line05:10
ForgeAuswith instead of edgy edgy-backports05:10
daskreech2like two lones below05:10
mikeummm05:10
daskreech2lines05:10
ForgeAusin the column BEFORE universe multiverse where it says edgy05:10
daskreech2mike: closed it already?05:10
mikeno i didnt close it05:11
ForgeAusnote: don't change the line you just did05:11
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ForgeAusadd a copy of it05:11
neko_ok, is there any proxy server for litile firm (~10 men) like usergate for windows, but free, with grafical interface (mn thrue apache) and socks5?05:11
mikeOkay not to sound retarted, but im completely lost05:11
ForgeAus(you had an option to clone when you rightclicked)05:11
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BluesKajsacktime gents ... nite all05:11
mikeclone what?05:12
daskreech2mike: hold up :-)05:12
ForgeAusthe line in sources.list05:12
daskreech2i'll explain in a little05:12
daskreech2ForgeAus: it's already there05:12
ForgeAusthe whole deb <URL> edgy main universe multiverse05:12
daskreech2why make him clone it?05:12
ForgeAusedgy proposed is?05:12
ForgeAusI didn't think that was in the default sources.list05:13
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daskreech2edgy-backports05:13
ForgeAusoh yeah backports, sorry05:13
ForgeAusis it?05:13
ForgeAus(in the default one)05:13
daskreech2ok mike back to me05:13
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mikeummmm im soooo lost05:14
ForgeAuslol its ok05:14
daskreech2mike: i'll explain it all in a second05:14
daskreech2mike: you still have that line you just edited/enabled ?05:14
mikeyes05:14
daskreech2mike: ok look like two lines down for a line that says deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports somethingsomething05:15
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daskreech2the important part is the edgy-backports05:15
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mikei dont see edgy-backports05:16
daskreech2mike: the line you edited has the word edgy right ?05:16
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mikeyeah'05:17
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daskreech2ok look in that same column for edgy-backports05:17
daskreech2I think it's down a few lines. i could be wrong05:18
mikeoh okay i see it05:18
mikethere are two05:18
mikeand one is grey05:18
daskreech2really?05:18
mikedeb-src is greu05:18
daskreech2does the one that's not grey have deb at the start?05:18
mike*gray05:18
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daskreech2great :-)05:18
daskreech2click apply and close you are done05:18
daskreech2now just for fun05:19
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mikewait, deb-src is gray05:19
daskreech2look at the status bar at the bottom of adept :)05:19
mikeand deb isnt. thats right?05:19
daskreech2mike: that's ok05:19
mikeoh okay gotcha05:19
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daskreech2unless you plan on coding anytime soon05:19
mikelol umm no what ever that is05:20
mikeokay status bar?05:20
phr0z3no.O05:20
daskreech2mike: the very bottom of the window05:20
daskreech2you clicked close?05:20
mikeinstall 0, upgrade 0, remove 005:20
daskreech2right05:20
daskreech2how many packages are available?05:21
phr0z3nCoding= a certain language in which is how apps are created to put it in a simple way. like Windows was coded in C++ mike :-D.05:21
mike959 installed, 76 upgradeable, 20308 available05:21
phr0z3nanyways, welcome to Kubuntu.05:21
daskreech2mike: ok click fetch updates05:21
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mikeokay its waiting for headers05:22
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daskreech2mike: ok do you mind reading orwant me to explain what you just did?05:22
mikeexplane it to me05:22
mikeplease05:22
JackPhilcan i hide the main panel?05:22
daskreech2mike: alright adept is a way to install applications05:23
daskreech2they are split up into sections05:23
daskreech2and versions05:23
daskreech2the version of kubuntu you are using is 6.1005:23
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daskreech2it's called edgy05:23
mikeokay05:24
daskreech2so the column that says edgy dictates what version of applications you can install05:24
ubuntuanybody have an accurate md5 for kubuntu-6.10-amd-dvd.iso?05:24
daskreech2older versions of kubuntu will install older versions of software05:24
daskreech2newer ones will install newer versions etc05:25
daskreech2mike: does that make sense?05:25
mikemmhmm05:25
wendyi need help in spanish05:25
daskreech2!es | wendy05:25
ubotuwendy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:25
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mikeso do i do a search for flash on the search bar on adept05:26
daskreech2yep05:26
mikeokay i see Adove Flash Player Plugin and the status is Not Installed05:26
daskreech2mike: now the last column (universe, multiverse) says WHICH applications you can install05:26
mikehow do i install it05:26
daskreech2mike: right click it05:27
mikerequest install?05:27
ubuntuyup05:27
daskreech2yup05:27
mikenow what?05:27
daskreech2then apply at the top05:27
ubuntuhmm what happens if i tried that using this desktop cd? :)05:27
daskreech2if you want to review what you are doing then you can click preview changes05:28
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ubuntuany idea??05:28
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daskreech2ubuntu; sorry what's the question?05:29
beeranyone know where i can look for info on getting the wireless button on my laptop to work with edgy?05:29
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unix_infidelbeer: /etc/acpi05:29
unix_infidellook in there.05:29
beeror maybe remapping it all togeather05:29
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beerunix: is there documentation?05:30
mikeso everytime i want to install a program, i download it, and save it to the destop and go under adept and search and download right?05:30
mike** search and install right?05:30
Forgeback05:31
Forge... I think05:31
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beernot exactly sure what i need to do  in there05:31
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acamargobhola bipolar05:32
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bipolaracamargob: hi05:33
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MrWGW-good evening05:34
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acamargobhi05:34
MrWGW-but ATM, I am in need of this channel's services05:34
daskreech2_mike: back05:34
MrWGW-btw hi Jucato, daskreech05:34
Jucatohi MrWGW-05:34
MrWGW-I want to put Ubuntu on my MacMini05:34
MrWGW-or Kubuntu rather05:34
MrWGW-well probably both, this is an Intel one with a Core Duo05:34
mikealrighty05:34
MrWGW-is this especially hard and what is the picture like in terms of hardware support?05:35
daskreech2_mike: there are 4 main sections05:36
ubuntudoes anybody here use wine?05:37
MrWGW-not I05:37
acamargobwhat for?05:37
ForgeAusI do (well I prefer cxoffice but stilll)05:38
MrWGW-I have mucho Windows installs and am not a fanboi to the point where I'd want to use a notoriously difficult emulator for them05:38
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MrWGW-what I'm trying to do is learn how to live with the Linux replacements05:38
MrWGW-which in some cases are better, other cases worse05:38
ForgeAusin most cases simply different05:38
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ForgeAus(sorry it always seems with the vs attitude windows VS linux... I'm not like that at all!)05:39
ubuntuwhats the best windows emu?05:39
ForgeAusvmware05:39
ForgeAus(or virtualbox)05:39
MrWGW-right, you can't beat virtualization05:39
ForgeAusit virtualizes windows05:39
ForgeAusbut its not exactly an emulator05:39
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ubuntui just want something for games05:39
ForgeAuswine is good for a program that runs SOME windows applications05:39
MrWGW-then it would probably be what you'd want05:39
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MrWGW-either that or a partition05:40
ForgeAusubuntu are they 3D ones?05:40
ubuntui like how this desktop cd works.. tho im dissapointed in how the wireless pp works05:40
ubuntuand i cant seem to figure out how to mount my hdd05:41
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jryhigginsi am in need of help with Adept manager05:42
ubuntuwhats the problem?05:42
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jryhigginsi get a error, real mode only05:43
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ubuntuwhen you doo.. what?05:43
jryhigginssorry, its read only mode05:43
acamargobwhat error?05:43
jryhigginsdatabase locked05:44
MonkeyFiti just had that problem05:44
MonkeyFitlemme digg up the link i found05:44
MonkeyFithttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34895205:44
jryhigginscool, thnx05:44
jeanmasshello05:45
MrWGW-anyway, any thoughts on my Mac install?05:45
jeanmassi've uploaded an album in my ipod05:45
jeanmassall tracks work, but one05:45
jeanmassthis problematic track does work in amarok05:45
jeanmassbut do not on ipod05:45
jeanmass??05:45
jeanmasswhat is wrong?05:46
pwn4tt4ckI tried xubuntu the other day05:47
pwn4tt4ckIts too much like gnome for me to like it05:47
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MonkeyFitdoes anybody know where i would go for gstreamer related issues?05:47
Jucato#ubuntu ?05:48
MonkeyFitsuch as no playback of wma lossless files in the terminal05:48
jeanmassMonkeyFit: try ubuntuforums05:48
crdlbMonkeyFit, wma lossless?05:48
MonkeyFiti tried ubuntu forums05:48
MonkeyFitand yes05:48
crdlbI don't think there's any support for that05:48
MonkeyFitwma lossless05:48
MonkeyFitit works in mplayer05:48
crdlbexcept maybe with pitfdll05:48
crdlb!gstreamer0.10-pitfdll05:49
ubotugstreamer0.10-pitfdll: GStreamer plugin for using MS Windows binary codecs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1.1+cvs20060515-1 (edgy), package size 79 kB, installed size 260 kB (Only available for i386)05:49
MonkeyFitand it looks like pitfdll registered the right dll that mplayer uses05:49
MonkeyFitbut still, gstreamer tells me no decoder was found05:49
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MonkeyFitit's odd, especially since it worked in Kubuntu Dapper05:50
crdlbMonkeyFit, I suggest converting them to flac05:50
crdlbmuch more futureproof05:50
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MonkeyFitAre there any good converters that will convert tags as well?05:50
joecoderconsidering switching to suse05:50
MonkeyFiteither in linux or windows?05:50
jeanmasssuse seems nice05:51
jeanmasshaven't tried it05:51
crdlbMonkeyFit, from wma? I don't know, sorry05:51
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MonkeyFitI'll check elsewhere05:51
MonkeyFitthank you05:51
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wolferineanyone use proftpd, and has setup a dir outside the /username dir?05:52
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geniiJucato Actually I may soon just pay for an IV tube of caffeine05:56
geniiBut atm it is a cup (extremely large cup)05:57
JucatoO.o05:57
ubuntuok i got a question here.. Im currently running a desktop cd, and i've downloaded a few updates / programs... where are these kept? and will they stil be there if i reboot?05:58
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geniiubuntu Theya re being kept in a ramdisk and each boot you lose them05:59
ubuntuthats what i guessed05:59
ubuntuwill they install? so i can try them out?05:59
geniiubuntu so long as the package size does not exceed the size of your ramdisk you can install whatever you like06:00
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cotydaskreech are you on06:02
geniiJucato Seems like a slow night :)06:02
cotydaskreech2_ : i know you there 0_006:03
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daskreech2_coty: I am?06:03
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cotyguess what06:03
ubuntuchicken butt?06:03
cotyare you the origanal daskreech06:04
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cotywell if you are then im happy to say that i finally got kubuntu installed06:04
daskreech2sure why not :-)06:04
daskreech2coty: neat :-)06:05
cotyyeah06:05
daskreech2what was the problem?06:05
cotyI also have all the ubuntus on my computer now06:05
cotythe bios06:05
cotyi changed the advance setting06:05
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cotywere it looked for windows06:05
Shootfasthey guys, anyone else running feisty and having repo troubles?06:06
cotyto were it would look for linux06:06
cotyIt was a lot of stress getting kubuntu to work06:06
daskreech2sorry :-(06:06
cotyI'm sure a lot of people on here that helped had head aches06:07
cotylol06:07
cotyI also found out that i cant boot from slave06:07
cotySo i wiped out windows06:07
cotyand installed it there on my master drive06:07
daskreech2:-)06:09
cotyI was scared06:09
cotyIt was a 50/50 chance it would work06:09
cotyand at first it did not work06:10
cotyso i thought i had no longer windows or linux06:10
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cotyso i messed around in bios and boom it worked06:10
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cotyI really dont miss windows though06:11
geniiShootfast Yes06:11
cotybut there is one thing that makes me mad so far06:11
cotyand that is i bought the wifi max06:11
nonuda_i am trying to edit my boot menu, can i just add # symbol to make some of boot choice dissapear?06:11
daskreech2coty: well we are here to help out and make sure you don't miss it06:11
cotyfor my psp to have a hot spot06:11
geniiShootfast But the best place to ask about Feisty is #ubuntu+106:11
cotydaskreech2 : i know if it was not for you guys i would have never got it to work06:12
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cotydaskreech2 : but i want my wifi max to work06:12
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golum83hola?06:12
cotydaskreech2 : but i dont know how to get it to06:12
golum83hi i want to install beryl, i have sony vaio k rollal06:13
daskreech2wifi max is which one again?06:13
daskreech2!beryl06:13
cotyme to06:13
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:13
bonbonthejon!es | golum8306:13
ubotugolum83: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:13
bonbonthejon!beryl | golum8306:13
ubotugolum83: please see above06:13
cotydarskreech2: it is a wifi anteana that was made for the psp and ds06:13
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cotydaskreech2 : it makes a hot spot for them06:13
daskreech2coty: what version of wifi does it run?06:14
cotydaskreech2 : it plugs into the usb06:14
cotydaskreech2: both b and g06:14
daskreech2ah so it's a normal wifi?06:14
daskreech2!wifi06:14
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:14
cotydaskreech2 : so what will i do06:15
daskreech2read that :-)06:15
daskreech266606:15
daskreech2^^^06:15
cotyok06:15
daskreech2that didn't work out weel :-(06:15
daskreech2well06:15
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cotydaskreech2 : why do you have a 2 on the end of your name06:16
neptunepinkdaskreech2: the mark of the devil is actually a bunch of carots?06:16
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nonuda_can someone take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12717/ , i want to remove some of boot menu choices06:17
daskreech2if bit shifted06:17
nonuda_i want to remove ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-38606:19
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geniinonuda_: So something like:   sudo apt-get remove kernel-image-<<kernelversion to remove here>>06:21
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coty!wifi06:21
coty!wifi06:21
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:21
coty!botsnack06:22
ubotuYum!06:22
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daskreech2:-)06:23
cotywhat should i look for06:23
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cotythere are so many things to go through06:23
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daskreech2well thre is a wi-fi howto06:26
daskreech2that's where I normally start06:26
daskreech2right after I install kwifimanager06:27
daskreech2you know06:27
daskreech2if I ever used wifi06:27
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golum83Beryl, can some one help installing beryl or recommend a good page i have Radeon Mobility M6 LY [Radeon Mobility 900006:31
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daskreech2!beryl | golum83. this should help06:32
ubotugolum83. this should help: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:32
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cotyI would love to get beryl running on my computer06:34
cotyI have gone to that site06:34
cotybut i dont know were to find the download for it06:35
hitmanWillycoty: its in the repos06:35
abortd_beryl made my comp catch on fire....06:35
hitmanWillycoty: apt-get beryl06:35
cotyrepos?06:35
daskreech2coty: sorry I forget you still have a lot ot learn06:35
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cotyyeap06:35
daskreech2!universe | coty06:35
ubotucoty: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:35
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cotyso what should i look for on the beryl site06:37
daskreech2coty: you don't need that :)06:37
cotyokk06:38
daskreech2coty type /join #ubuntu-effects06:38
abortd_coty i will make your comp catch fire06:38
abortd_it i mean06:38
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cotyfor real?06:38
AbortDyp06:38
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cotyi dont beleive you06:38
AbortD:P06:38
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AbortDthats a good idea not to hahaha06:39
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cotywhats that suppose to mean06:39
AbortDits a good idea not to believe me06:39
cotyoh06:39
cotylol06:39
cotywell i kind of did06:39
cotyconsidering how powerful im guessing this programe is06:40
AbortDi figured :)06:40
AbortDits sweet06:40
AbortDhonestly06:40
AbortDim switching to gnome though06:40
cotywell not until i get it06:40
AbortDi feel it will be a better enviroment for it06:40
cotyyeah06:40
cotyi have both06:40
cotykde , gnome06:40
daskreech2AbortD: have you seen kwin_compostie ?06:41
cotyso06:41
cotyhow will i get this thing running06:41
daskreech2which wi-fi or beryl?06:41
cotyfirst i need to download it06:41
AbortDkwin_compostie?06:41
cotyberyl06:41
AbortDit just seems like kde hates my comp06:41
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cotykde and gnome love mine06:42
AbortDand the vid driver i have wont let me keep the same screen res it seems like06:42
daskreech2kwin_composite06:42
AbortDi set everything and still it likes to resize my desktop06:42
cotyyou want to hear something weird06:42
daskreech2coty: did you ask in #ubuntu-effects ?06:42
cotygnome never worked on my computer until i ran kde on it06:42
cotyno06:42
cotywhat should i ask06:43
daskreech2how do you install beryl? :-)06:43
AbortDi wish kde would work good for me06:43
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AbortDi wish my nvidia drivers would06:43
daskreech2AbortD: what does it do?06:43
cotyok06:43
coty#ubuntu-effects06:43
osirisanyone here have any idea how to connecto to a nextel phone with ubuntu ?06:43
cotywoops06:43
AbortDok for beginners when i set my monitor to any res it has black lines around it06:43
daskreech2AbortD: widescreen monitor?06:43
AbortDand when i go into my monitors OSD and resize and such then it goes into power safe mode or whenever the monitor goes into low power mode it screws it up again06:44
AbortDno06:44
osirisAbortD, use the physical controls on your monitor to realign the screen06:44
AbortDi did06:45
AbortDthats what i meant by OSD06:45
hitmanWillyhmm, weird06:45
geniiosiris OSD=On Screen Display06:45
osirisdid you comment out all the unused modes in xorg.conf ?06:45
AbortDhm06:45
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AbortDdont think so06:45
AbortDlet me pastebin it06:46
AbortD!pastebin06:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:46
osirisfind you actual reasolution, and comment out all outher lines06:46
hitmanWillyosiris: that might not be a good idea, a lot of games and such change the res around06:47
osirisdepends on what you are trying to do i guess.  just comment out the ones you know you dont want hen i guess06:48
AbortDhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12718/06:48
AbortDi use the bottom line with 1600 by 120006:48
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intelikey!vertual06:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vertual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:48
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osirisAbortD, do you have a tablet ?06:49
AbortDno06:49
osiriscomment all that shit out for one06:49
AbortDall of what shit?06:49
intelikey!language06:49
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:49
hitmanWillyline 10606:50
AbortDwhatever captain intelikey06:50
osiriswhat resolution do you want it at06:50
intelikeyhow do you know my rank ?06:50
AbortD1200 by 160006:50
osirisintelikey, sorry06:51
AbortDim your stalker06:51
osirisbeen a long time since i was here06:51
AbortD1600 by 120006:51
osiriswont happen again06:51
intelikeyAbortD no you06:51
AbortDnot me?06:51
osirisother servers, other rules06:51
intelikeyno you are not.   we caught him last weak06:51
osirisi forgot06:51
daskreech2!language | osiris06:51
ubotuosiris: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:51
osirisno sh@#$#%%^  a little late to the party06:52
hitmanWillysorry, lines 80-10606:52
cotyhey how would i know what my GFX card is06:52
osirisi appologized06:52
osirismy bad06:52
osirisdag06:52
AbortDok everyone calm down so i can get help06:52
cotyThey wont help me until i tell them my gfx card06:53
daskreech2just a friendly reminder06:53
genii!opsnack06:53
ubotuPeanuts!06:53
coty!graphicscard06:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphicscard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:53
intelikeycoty  lshw | less06:53
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cotyintelikey : what06:54
AbortDhitmanWilly:  the driver wacom?06:54
intelikeyls=list hw=hardware    less is a pager.06:54
cotyis that the command prompt06:54
osirisAbortD, if it were me, i would dlete 800x600, and 640x480 on the last line, comment out all but the 16 bit G-mode lines (second to last) and roll with it06:54
AbortDosiris what do i do06:54
cotyok06:54
intelikeycoty yes konsole   # lshw | less #06:55
osirisidk if yeyer trying to game and chagne resolutions all the time06:55
AbortDi need 24bit06:55
AbortDand i dont want 1024x76806:55
cotyok did that06:55
AbortDi want one damn res06:55
cotywere would i see the gfx card06:55
hitmanWillyAbortD: yeah, all of that06:55
osiristhen take it it out, and comment out all other modes than the one you want06:55
AbortDscrew it i give up06:55
intelikeycoty  it's listed  scroll down06:56
osirisits easy06:56
AbortDunless someone shows me im screwed06:56
osirisedit xorg, and restart X06:56
cotywhat do you mean listed scroll down06:56
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osirisgimme a shell account on it and ill DO it06:56
cotyi cant scroll down06:56
hitmanWillyjust back up the old one first, for the love of god06:56
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AbortDpastebin the xorg06:56
osirisits not the bloody hard06:56
intelikeycoty yes in konsole enter# lshw | less #06:57
AbortDit is backed06:57
AbortDi dunno wtf u all are saying to comment out06:57
AbortDi see like 50 lines with wacom on it06:57
intelikeycoty what does it say ?06:57
cotyalot of stuff06:57
ubuntuis it possible to mount c:/ or d:/ both are hdds.. im using a desktop cd06:57
daskreech2!paste | coty06:58
ubotucoty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:58
intelikeycoty good  that's all the avalable hardware in your box.   scroll down and find the display06:58
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cotyok06:58
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cotyfound it06:58
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intelikeydaskreech2 he's just looking for the grafix card in the lshw output06:58
cotyproduct: 82810 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] 06:58
coty             vendor: Intel Corporation06:58
intelikeygood job coty  :)06:59
daskreech2intelikey: then use -C :-p06:59
cotyis that it06:59
intelikeycoty yep06:59
osirisAbortD, make a backup of your xorg.conf file while i work on this06:59
cotyi wonder if i gave an ok graphics card06:59
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cotyWill i need a good one06:59
AbortDk06:59
AbortDits backed up07:00
AbortDi gotta pee brb07:00
intelikeycoty "i810" is decent.07:00
cotycool07:00
cotyso i can do it07:00
intelikeycoty what is "it"  remember i just came in07:00
cotyi can have BERYL07:00
intelikeyoh... that....   i don't know.07:01
coty??07:01
hitmanWillyAbortD: try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12721/07:01
intelikeycoty ask in the other channel07:01
intelikey!beryl | coty07:01
ubotucoty: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:01
osirisAbortD, http://rafb.net/p/Y4BvzP21.nln.html07:01
cotythere not awnsering07:02
intelikeybe patient07:02
cotythey are not much of a help07:02
daskreech2good night all07:02
daskreech2intelikey: coty needs more help with wifi :-)07:02
intelikeydaskreech2 not i07:02
cotylets get beryl running first07:02
cotyi feel like making my screen go crazy07:03
osirisAbortD, that should force the resolutiuon to always be 1600x120007:03
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daskreech2good night07:03
cotycya07:04
cotyno one at all is helping07:05
cotynot a singal bit07:05
osirisi dont do beryl07:05
osirisi do E or not at all07:05
osirisand i aint done that in a bit07:05
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intelikeycoty me neither.  don't know how to help with what i don't have/use07:06
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cotyits ok thanks anyways07:06
intelikeycoty and do try to keep in mind that almost everyone here is simply another linux user like your self.   no pay, no glory, no name up in lights for helping you or anyone else.  it's all violenteer07:07
cotyyeap07:07
cotyi know07:07
cotyYou guys help with kubuntu07:08
cotyand07:08
cotyi help with the PSP07:08
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osirisand i help with voip, and home audio/video07:08
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intelikeyif you don't get the info you need in here try  #ubuntu    or  ##linux    or   ##linuxhelp07:09
ForgeAusPSP?07:09
cotyok07:09
ForgeAusI know its playstation portable but what kind of help07:09
intelikeyJucato is our networking expert.07:09
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cotyHacking07:09
geniiI like madeup words like violenteer :)07:09
Jucato:)07:09
intelikey:)07:09
osirisabortD needs to get off a proied connection07:09
Jucatooh really? me? networking? :D07:09
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cotyI help people hack it07:10
AbortDits like it doesnt save the freq i use07:10
AbortDthas why its messing up now....07:10
intelikeyJucato yeah.    show's what a spot we're in don't it....07:10
Jucatoyeah07:10
geniiAbortD You can specify frequency by using the modeline stuff in xorg.conf07:10
AbortDhoow?07:10
osirisAbortD, pm'ing it07:11
geniiAbortD: There are usually examples in there07:11
geniiIf not I could likely find one thru google07:11
AbortDplease?07:12
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cotywell i am installing the edubuntu07:12
cotydesktop07:12
geniiAbortD Tho freebsd-centric, this link shows some good examples http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html07:12
cotyI wonder what it looks like07:12
intelikeyi don't even know what de it uses07:12
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intelikeyis edubuntu gnome driven ?07:13
cotyi think07:13
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: yes07:13
intelikeyok then it will look a lot like ubuntu-desktop07:14
geniiYeah it lloks like. I installed it for the kids07:14
thoreauputicintelikey: edubuntu uses both gnome and kde stuff I think07:14
cotyI will now have KDE, Gnome and edubuntu07:14
cotyall on my computer07:14
Jucatoedubuntu uses GNOME for it's desktop environment, but installs a mix of GNOME and KDE educational apps07:14
cotythen i will get xubuntu07:14
thoreauputicJucato: right07:14
cotyi hear it is for weaker systems07:14
acamargobyep07:15
intelikeyjust add xfce4 and you pretty well have the whole shmeere07:15
Admiral_Chicagonot really07:15
Jucatocoty: for "lower" systems, and people who want it07:15
Admiral_Chicagodefine weater07:15
Jucatoxfce is actually getting better and better07:15
cotyI want all the ubuntus07:15
Admiral_Chicagoweaker*...thats offtopic though07:15
cotyand i missing any07:15
geniiintelikey I prefer xfce actually07:15
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Jucatogenii: intelikey prefers CLI :D07:15
cotywhat is xfce07:15
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Jucatocoty: the desktop environment that Xubuntu uses07:15
thoreauputicfluxbox ftw !07:15
Admiral_Chicagoits getting better and better than because of me :)07:15
cotyoh07:15
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: come again? it's getting better and better than you? :P07:16
geniiJucato for servers I like CLI best too07:16
intelikeythoreauputic blackbox i say07:16
thoreauputicintelikey: :)07:16
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geniiAre they still developing blackbox? I used it years ago07:16
thoreauputicgenii: sure07:16
geniithoreauputic: Cool07:16
Jucatotwm, ion3, etc..07:16
intelikeygenii i like it.  now that i learned a little about editing the theems07:17
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geniifvwm207:17
thoreauputicgenii: flubox has more shiny bits though, like tabbing windows together etc07:17
Jucatothere's a 2?!?!07:17
thoreauputicumm fluxbox07:17
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intelikeyflubox  that's sickening07:17
intelikey:)07:18
thoreauputicintelikey: yeah, that would fluxbox with a bug :)07:18
Admiral_Chicagolol @ Jucato07:18
geniiflubox is what you call an infected Windoze machine ;)07:18
thoreauputicheheh07:18
intelikey:)07:18
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Admiral_Chicago!offtopic07:19
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:19
geniisigh. so many window managers and so little time07:19
AbortDwhere in xorg do i set my hertz?07:19
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Jucato:D07:19
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thoreauputic:)07:20
intelikeymy bx wont allow kicking self07:20
Jucatothoreauputic: I could have helped you :D07:20
AbortDgenii07:20
intelikeywell not without tweeking it it wont.07:20
thoreauputicintelikey: you lack op-fu ;p07:20
AbortDwhere in xorg do i set my hertz?07:20
intelikeythoreauputic no i mean in channels i own.07:21
geniiAbortD I'm looking for a sample to show you, be patient07:21
thoreauputicintelikey: ah, I see - I use a script by seveas07:21
AbortDyes sir07:21
AbortDsorry07:21
thoreauputicintelikey: it allows autorejoin for ops etc07:21
intelikeyif i tell it to kick me it just says "trying to kick yourself again intelikey?"07:21
thoreauputicintelikey: heh07:22
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intelikeyheh same message for /ban intelikey@*07:23
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intelikeybut i get the idea that bx was kinda writen for chan ops to begin with...07:24
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intelikeyhas loads of auto kick auto ban auto ignore auto op stuff builtin07:25
Admiral_Chicagogrr. wireless.07:25
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geniiAbortD: Where it has your resolutions put something like "1024x768_72" or "1280x1024_60"     or whatever your desired refresh is07:25
Jucato!offtopic07:25
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:25
Jucato(just for Admiral_Chicago's sake :D)07:25
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i really hate wireless right about now07:26
geniiAbortD: There is also a good sample xorg.conf here for more modeline examples and other syntax: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=8251407:26
cotyhas anyone used edubuntu07:27
flaccid!ontopic07:27
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:27
Jucatobah07:27
flaccidhe07:27
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cotyall the work ubotu does07:27
Admiral_Chicagocoty: i have, its very nice07:27
cotylets give her a snack07:27
geniibleh the _ in example above should be @ instead07:27
coty!botsnack07:28
ubotuYum!07:28
thoreauputic!botsnack07:28
thoreauputicheh07:28
cotylol07:28
genii!opsnack07:28
ubotuPeanuts!07:28
cotyadmiral_chicago: what do you think of it07:28
geniiI guess what the ops earn and what they eat is the same thing ;)07:28
cotywhat can you do with it07:28
intelikey!usersnack ?07:28
Jucato!no ontopic-#kubuntu is <reply> #kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usersnack ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:28
ubotuI know nothing about ontopic-#kubuntu yet, Jucato07:28
Jucatoyikes07:28
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Jucato!ontopic07:29
ubotu#kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:29
Jucatothat's better...07:29
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I will probably have wireless problems next month, if/when I get a wireless router07:30
cotyhey it is not on my menu07:30
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i have one, don't even want to set it up07:30
thoreauputic!botabuse07:30
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...07:30
cotyI dont see edubuntu07:30
cotyi just installed it07:30
intelikeycoty it's not a new de.  it's packages added to the system.   you already had gnome07:30
cotyoh07:31
thoreauputiccoty: should be in the sessions choices on login07:31
intelikeycoty look in the menu in the education section07:31
thoreauputicah07:31
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cotyi see07:31
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intelikeyban me.07:31
cotywhy?07:32
intelikeynothing.   bad joke.07:32
thoreauputicintelikey: are you testing something?07:32
thoreauputicintelikey: I was about to oblige :P07:32
intelikeythoreauputic only your nerves ???07:32
tarelerulzHow do you get it to where you can download mplayer07:32
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dwidmann!multiverse | tarelerulz07:33
ubotutarelerulz: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:33
thoreauputictarelerulz: enable universe and multiverse07:33
intelikey!mplayer07:33
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs07:33
intelikeymplayer is int multiverse07:33
intelikeyin07:33
Jucatois in*07:33
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dwidmannit gives the same message07:33
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thoreauputicintelikey: yeah, but having universe and multiverse is a Good Plan (tm)07:34
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dwidmannPackage: mplayer07:34
dwidmannPriority: extra07:34
dwidmannSection: multiverse/graphics07:34
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intelikeythoreauputic sure i had not intended that to imply otherwise.  only explaining where to find it.07:34
dwidmann:P07:34
thoreauputicJucato: he just explained :)07:35
tarelerulzHow dod you enable the repostory07:35
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thoreauputicintelikey: yeah, i was just throwing that in for those who think only having multiverse is enough ;)07:35
Jucatotarelerulz: the first link that was given by dwidmann07:35
thoreauputicJucato: he didn't07:35
Jucatoit will be moot... feisty will have those enabled by default07:35
Jucatobut doesn't really affect intelikey... as he's on dapps07:36
thoreauputicJucato: yes, all this repo support will be much easier07:36
Jucatothoreauputic: not to mention telling people how to do it in Adept!07:36
Jucatomanchicken is my Adept hero for that :D07:36
dwidmannJucato: indeed it does .. I've still got a few things to take care of on my feisty yet .. upgraded last/night, fixed things this morning07:36
Jucatoor actually Riddell :D07:36
intelikey!offtopic again07:36
thoreauputicJucato: much to my surprise the totem-gstreamer on feisty can handle most stuff ( with the right codecs)07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtopic again - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:36
intelikeymy turn...07:36
intelikey:)07:37
Jucato:P07:37
tarelerulzreason I ask Is I did what I thought to turn repos that I need07:37
tarelerulzI can't seem to get samba to work07:37
dwidmannkcmsambaconf (IIRC) makes it fairly simple to get samba working07:37
dwidmannit was something like that anyway07:38
tarelerulzI think the kubuntu I have is messed up in someway07:38
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tarelerulzalot went wrong with it07:38
tarelerulzIt is just the only I have07:38
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manchickenWhat now?07:40
manchickenJucato: You could send some traffic to my blog on how to use adept.07:40
Jucatomanchicken: nothing. just proclaiming to the world that you're one of my Adept heroes :)07:40
manchickenAh.07:41
Jucatokool. I'll have those links aliased to konvi :)07:41
manchickenBTW, my new job will allow me to release more free software :)07:41
cotyis there a way to be on two servers at once07:41
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manchickenI expect to have an AJAX framework for perl applications released by Q3.07:41
intelikeycoty safe way    two clients07:42
cotyyea07:42
cotybut is there a way with one07:42
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intelikeycan be in more than one on most clients    but it's in the /newserver  command normally.07:42
cotyok07:43
cotyit did not work07:43
cotywhat do i put after "/newserver07:43
intelikeyif you disapear we'll know it not the right command...    /newserver irc.efnet.net07:43
cotyok07:44
intelikeyefnet was only an examplt07:44
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cotynope07:44
cotydid not work07:44
Jucatohm.. what servers are you talking about? IRC servers?07:44
cotyyes07:44
Jucatoin Konversation? just add a server to the server list07:45
intelikeyclient makes all the differance.07:45
cotyI want to be on more than one at a time07:45
Jucatocoty: yes.07:45
JucatoI'm on 2 currently07:45
cotyon the same client07:45
JucatoI can be on 3 if I wanted (or knew some other place to be)07:45
cotynot on two clients07:45
Jucatoyes07:45
Jucatoone Konversation window07:45
cotyhow07:45
Jucato<Jucato> in Konversation? just add a server to the server list07:46
cotyok07:46
JucatoFile -> Server List (or Press F2)07:46
fr0nkhi07:46
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fr0nkis there a tool to convert .bin -> .iso?07:46
tarelerulzkubuntu has given me more problems then any other one I have use07:46
Jucato!info bchunk | fr0nk07:46
ubotufr0nk: bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB07:46
thoreauputic!bchunk07:46
Jucatothoreauputic: :P07:46
fr0nkthanks07:46
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thoreauputicJucato: I ' m s l o w   t o d a y07:47
cotyi think it is working07:47
Jucatothoreauputic: and to think that I was in the middle of typing a text message :P07:47
intelikey"slow children at play"07:47
thoreauputicJucato: actually I'm usually  s  l  o  w07:47
thoreauputic;)07:48
cotyit is07:48
cotysweet07:48
cotythanks07:48
Jucatocoty: told yah it would07:48
cotycool07:48
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cotynow i can be on all my psp irc channels07:48
chipbuddyso i really like yakuake mainly because it's a fast way to get to a terminal... but i'm sure there's some way i can just quickly launch a normal terminal... how do i do this?07:48
intelikeychipbuddy hotkey07:49
thoreauputicchipbuddy: make a key shortcut07:49
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Jucatochipbuddy: K Menu -> System -> right-click on the Konsole entry -> Edit this item07:49
chipbuddybut even making it a hotkey, it still takes time to load it into memory. with yakuake the terminal is always open07:50
Jucatochipbuddy: then leave it open always, in the background or on a different virtual desktop07:51
tarelerulzI turned on the repos like it said all the one I have seen07:51
fr0nknice07:51
tarelerulzand still just get kmplayer07:51
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tarelerulznot must stright mplayer07:51
fr0nkubotu: thanks worked fine07:51
Jucato!thanks | fr0nk07:51
ubotufr0nk: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)07:51
thoreauputicchipbuddy: or use a faster terminal like aterm or rxvt etc07:51
dwidmannchipbuddy: true, but since kde 3.5.5, konsole loads really, really, really fast07:52
fr0nklol arlgh07:52
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chipbuddyplease don't hate me... i'm actually using gnome and not kde... i came here because no one was responding in ubuntu07:53
cotywhat do you need help with07:53
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intelikeychipbuddy konsole will be slow loading in gnome.07:53
intelikeychipbuddy try gnome-terminal07:54
stdinor xterm07:54
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Jucatochipbuddy: we won't hate you for using gnome, but it doesn't really get you anywhere if you don't tell the truth07:54
intelikeyprobably not installed stdin07:54
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thoreauputicintelikey: xterm is installed by default07:54
stdinintelikey: isn't it installed by default07:54
Jucatoiirc07:54
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thoreauputicJucato: beat me again ;)07:54
chipbuddyi didn't think i was lying... someone suggested using konsole and i clarified where i was07:55
Jucatowell :)07:55
Jucatoyou are in #kubuntu, so the presumption is that you're using Kubuntu... unless you say otherwise :)07:55
intelikeyhmmm   i don't know if i have ever looked for on a default kubuntu install....07:55
thoreauputicchipbuddy: gnome terminal is rather slow to start but decent once started - and of course you can tab it07:55
chipbuddyactually... this channel seems way more friendly and comfortable than the ubuntu channel07:56
thoreauputicchipbuddy: my personal favourite is urxvt07:56
Jucatowe get that a lot..07:56
intelikeyshhh you'll swell our heads up.07:56
thoreauputicchipbuddy: less people, less busy, less harried ops :)07:56
intelikeyboast not thy har07:57
intelikey:)07:57
thoreauputicchipbuddy: keeping #ubuntu in line requires a more determined mindset :)07:57
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tarelerulzfrom what I understand you go in repos manage in adept07:58
tarelerulzand right click and pick enable07:58
tarelerulzto turn repos on right07:58
intelikeythat's supposed to work.  then apply07:58
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intelikeynothing is of much value until applied.07:58
Jucatotarelerulz: except that in the case of multiverse, you have to *add* the word, not just enable it07:58
tarelerulzoh really07:59
tarelerulzwhere do I add it07:59
intelikeyon with the main restricted07:59
Jucatoor with universe07:59
tarelerulzthanks08:00
tarelerulzI did not see that part08:00
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avalonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12725/ <-- Does someone mind checking this for me and telling me which drive on this list is my 300GB drive?08:02
tarelerulzI found the last part08:02
tarelerulzwhere it says main universal ,but how to make the multiverse part stay08:03
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Admiral_Chicagogrr....08:03
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Admiral_Chicagowireless08:04
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stdinavalon: that's difficult to tell without the top part of the output, besides, "fdisk -l" will tell you08:04
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intelikeyavalon sudo fdisk -l08:05
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Ash-FoxA lot of security updates this week.08:06
intelikeyoh stdin sorry.  not meaning to but in08:06
tarelerulzit all worked so thanks all08:06
tarelerulzI just need to read more08:06
avalonI see the drive I think it is, but when I go to mount it, it's like it doesn't show up08:06
stdinintelikey: it's ok :)08:06
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geniiheh08:08
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geniiintelikey I thought you might like that08:10
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avalon I'm going to try restarting and seeing if it pops up. This is seriously freaking me out because that drive contained some vital information and it's not under the drive letter it used to be on here.08:11
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ubuntuHI08:12
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ubuntu_AAA08:13
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geniiDamn capslock key. Someone needs to hide those things08:13
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Jucato:D08:14
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geniiPut them right next to that ever-elusive "ANY" key08:15
geniiJucato :)08:15
Jucatohahah!08:15
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geniiWow got quiet here. I guess thats a good thing if no one needs help :)08:18
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geniieg: Either there are no problems or they are able to figure out their own path to a solution08:19
Minatakulol08:22
MinatakuWow... Freenode is kinda slow on the uptake08:22
MinatakuI got a lag meter reading of 173.4s08:22
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MinatakuIt must wait, like, 10m before dropping a client... or it waits08:23
MinatakuBecause it looks like I got everything I had missed08:23
Minatakulol08:23
MinatakuHi, genii :308:23
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geniiHeya08:23
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Minatakulol08:24
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MinatakuOh... wait...08:24
MinatakuXD08:24
geniiLots of fiber there :) All that shielding etc08:24
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MinatakuXD08:24
MinatakuSorry, lame joke X308:24
premier_Ive been using linux since November, its been giving me a lot of trouble in weird ways.  Nows it stopped logging out correctly, forcing me to restart the computer. It goes back to a problem I had with the kicker08:25
geniibleh08:25
premier_See, yesterday, I caused the kicker to hang, and I crashed it with alt-ctrl-esc.  I couldnt get it to start back up again, so I logged out and logged back on08:26
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mikefiesty does not work with atheros?08:27
premier_I got it to run, but it kept consuming all of the computer's resources.  I couldnt get anyone to figure out what it was, so I just restarted the computer.  Now it wont log08:27
premier_log out08:27
pollyomike: What is atheros?08:27
mikeatheros wifi08:27
mikelapy08:27
genii.kde/share/config/kickerrc08:27
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genii^ deleting will reset kicker to defaults08:28
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mikeFeisty is so much slower than Etch?08:28
mikeany reason/08:28
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pollyomike: I would guess that if feisty is slow it is because they are still working on it.08:29
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mikepollyo: likewise with etch08:30
pollyomike: What is etch?08:30
mikedebian 4.o pre release08:30
premier_genii, can/should I upgrade to feisty?  Is it more or less buggy than edgy?08:30
mike4.008:30
mikepremier_: It locks up08:30
mikeOn both my pc's08:31
pollyomike: Do you have a website that discussess debian 4?08:31
premier_genii, can I give you a laundry list of problems that Ive been having?08:31
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mikepollyo: freenode,debian08:31
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pollyomike: Ok08:31
mikepollyo: I like Sidux08:31
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geniipremier_: If yer on Edgy I'd stick with that for the next few weeks til the first in-the-field bug reviews/fixes are in. Tho I'm not having any overly frustrating things with it yet.08:31
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geniipremier_: Well, at the moment I don't have oodles of time to help. but if you have one pressing concern I could hear it08:32
mikegenii: atheros drivers have probs08:32
pollyomike: I'm new to this.  What is Sidux?08:33
mikeI installed ubuntu then ,sudo apt-get install kde ,,so far so ok08:33
premier_genii: I cant think of anything.  But, it just seems like Im having more problems than I did in windows.  I expect its just incompetance (mine) but its still frustrating.  How much trouble did you have when you first started using desktop linux?08:34
geniimike I'm using it on a wired laptop, so haven't had to deal with any wifi headaches yet. Tho I know lots of ppl are complaining about it, atheros and broadcom issues for example08:34
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mikepollyo: http://sidux.com/08:35
geniipremier_: I had lots of problems :) But then again it was RedHat... I think version 5.1 or so08:35
mikegenii: Once the bugs are soeted it will be a nice distro,Just not as fast as debian?08:35
mikestrange08:35
premier_the generic intel wifi that came with my laptop seems to be the only think that works correctly.  Stupid Dell.08:35
mikesorted^^08:35
Nullbytepremier_: Got wifi problems?08:36
premier_no08:36
mikeI have08:36
Nullbytemike: Oh. Whats wrong?08:36
premier_I got acpi problems.  Those are more annoying.08:36
Nullbytepremier_: Hell yeah08:36
mikeatheros wireless indicates a connection but it is very flakey08:37
Nullbytemike: Sure its the drivers fault?08:37
mikeyes i have no probs with pclos,elive,sidux08:38
geniimike Well, since a generic kernel is the default (to install on the widest platform first time out) the default install will be slightly less impressive performance wise than say Sarge. But installing a kernel for your cpu will make it about neck in neck. Custom compile of course as always will squeeze out whatever your machine can do no matter on what originating OS08:38
premier_actually, does anyone know anything about acpi?  My computer will lock up every once in a while on boot ("Soft lockup on cpu #0").  It seems to be triggered by booting without a power cord, or with wireless turned of by the hardware switch, or both.08:38
pollyoOh my... I hope these updates go well.  I stelected some new apps to install and its replacing things and installing a mess of software now.08:38
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mikepollyo: feisty?08:38
pollyomike: Yes.08:39
premier_the only way to fix it when that happens is to reboot without acpi08:39
mikea clean install I feel is safer08:39
pollyomike: The other day I did an update and it killed my video driver.08:39
mikepollyo: fiesty is not so stable at the mo08:39
pollyomike: For not being so stable I  haven't had many problems with it in my basic day to day use.  I'm far from a power user though.08:40
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geniipremier__ Ah, I heard something recently about this, has something to do with the power management system. When a laptop boots off AC it works fine but battery boot is messed. I forget if there is an immediate solution tho.08:40
mikeEven with the bugs fixed it is slow,,p4,3.2 sata08:40
geniipremier_: Do you have a dual-core cpu?08:41
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premier_oh yeah, forgot that. lol08:42
premier_Intel dual core08:42
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geniipremier_:  Maybe try as a boot option to kernel:   notls08:42
premier_Im gonna build a pc this summer around an amd64, prolly dual core08:42
premier_notls?08:42
geniiIt prevents one cpu from racing and losing sync with the other08:42
geniiyes:      notls08:42
mikepremier_: My next build is amd/Nvidia08:42
premier_yeah, Nvidia or nothing08:43
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krautmoin08:43
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intelikeyhey guys xterm aint acting right.    i have a warper script that calls     /usr/bin/xterm -bg black -fg gray -fs 18 "$@"08:44
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intelikeybut the fonts are always tiny tiny tiny08:44
geniinotsc    (no timestamp counter) may also help08:44
intelikeyanyone know anything i can do to change it ?08:44
premier_genii: is there anything I "lose" if I do these things?08:44
geniipremier_: Not that I'm aware of08:45
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premier_any of you guys use raid?  Im planning out my new compy, not sure If I should use raid and how I should set it up08:48
geniipremier_:  How many drives do you have available to use for it?08:49
tarelerulzHow do you play sub with mplayer ?08:49
premier_genii: well, I havent bought the drives yet.  Not sure what my budget is gonna be, but I might be able to afford 3 drives08:50
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ingohello everyone...08:51
premier_I was actually thinking I get two 40 gigs and put two-three os's (windows, kubuntu, debian?) and then get 1-2 big drives.08:51
geniipremier_: For less than 4 drives I'd recommend mirroring. For 4 or more drives I'd use raid508:51
ingoanybody hot on konqueror, more specifically, mouse gestures?08:51
premier_is there any utility to raid 0 (striping?)08:52
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Ryiel!grub08:53
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:53
geniipremier_: Just make the partitions of type linux raid. Then add them to a raid1 partition.08:54
geniipremier_: Sorry, you wanted raid0 ?08:54
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geniiI'd avoid raid0 if possible. Either drive goes and the whole thing is kaput08:55
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premier_genii: okay, just asking.  Im just looking up the wikipedia on raid.  Why isnt raid 2 used?  it sounds useful09:04
geniipremier_: It's legacy from old (I believe) Sun or AT&T systems09:05
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geniiFor anyone interested a detailed explanation of raid2 can be found here http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/raid/levels/singleLevel2-c.html09:07
premier_genii: whats new in feisty that I can look forward to?09:08
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premier_Should I be looking forward to KDE4?  It sounds like there's gonna be some cool new stuff09:08
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geniipremier_: I'm not using KDE on my feisty box. I have XFCE on that (it's a slow laptop)09:09
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ingobut kde4 only comes out in november...09:09
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dwidmannpremier: we might not see kde4 on a kubuntu by default til feisty+3 ...09:09
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geniiMybe not even til 7.1009:12
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geniipremier_:  If you are really curious about Feisty and have lots of questions, there is a specific channel here for it, #ubuntu+1   :)09:13
ingois there a special channel for kde/konqueror?09:13
Jucatogenii: 7.10 = feisty +1 :)09:14
Jucatoingo: #kde09:14
ingocheers09:14
ingohave fun09:14
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geniiJucato Ah, I thought it went more like feisty+1 = herd something09:15
Jucatogenii: "herd" (literally a group of fawns), is the codename for the alpha releases09:16
geniiherd7 would be something arcane like feisty+2  etc etc LOL09:16
Jucatohehe no more herds now... beta has been released09:17
Jucato:D09:17
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geniiYeah I'm holding off on updates til maybe april 3 or longer09:17
dwidmannso yes ... feisty+3 would literally be 8.10 ...09:17
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dwidmanna forever from now :(09:18
premier_well, november isnt forever, feisty+3 maybe...09:18
Jucatowell, they did indicate the KDE 4 *might* be available as updates or a separate CD when the time comes09:18
premier_when would that be?   2008?09:18
ForgeAusassuming it will be a 7.10 it might be 7.8 or 7.12 or something!09:19
Jucatohm?09:19
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ForgeAusyeah kde4 :) should be good :)09:19
dwidmannIt could easily fit into 8.04 ... problem with that being that it's an lts release. It's a matter of whether they want their first lts release to have such a major change or not09:20
genii7.11 would be funny :)09:20
geniilike the variety store09:21
dwidmannhehehe09:21
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Jucatoif feisty+1 would be late by one month, that would happen ehehe09:21
premier_how do they choose the numbers?  I mean, there was a 6.06, and a 6.10, right?  So why not a 6.07 or 6.08?09:21
premier_is it by the months?09:22
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Jucatoyear+month09:22
firecrotchyear.month09:22
premier_ohhh.....09:22
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Jucato6.10 = 2006-10 = 2006 October09:22
Jucato:P09:22
premier_7.04 = april 2007?09:22
firecrotchright :)09:23
Jucatoyesh09:23
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geniipremier_: Yes April this year09:23
Jucatoin short, next month :D09:23
dwidmann7.13 ..... the ubuntu release from the twilight zone?09:23
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geniiThe prime number release :)09:25
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geniiI guess the 13th month should get named Ubuntember09:26
chipbuddycan i set a hotkey to minimize/restore a specific window (a terminal)?09:26
premier_how do I do the star thing?  "* premier_ is doing such and such"09:27
premier_chipbuddy: thats in the kde control panel under keyboards, it think09:27
geniipremier_:   use   /me does something09:27
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genii:)09:27
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premier_chipbuddy: kde control> keyboards and mice > keyboard shortcuts09:28
crazy_penguinHello09:29
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premier_yeah, Im thinking I might want a version of windows on my new compy to play games, but I dont want to shell out money.  Is there a way I can copy the version of windows from my hard drive on my laptop to a new computer?  That would be cool...09:30
pollyopremier_: It is hard to move windows to a different hardware configuration. (at least the recent versions of the software)09:31
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premier_XP?  yeah, Im just wondering what I can do, short of actual theft.  How hard is actual theft of windows, anyway?  I know they put in all the WGA stuff09:34
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firecrotchpremier_: Most likely, it won't boot09:34
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firecrotchpremier_: Do you have a normal XP install CD?09:34
SillyLillianWhere am I?09:35
premier_no, it came with the computer09:36
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firecrotchpremier_: So you have one of those crappy hard drive image CDs?09:37
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premier_firecrotch: yeah, the recovery cd that dell sends you.  I think its designed to not work on any computer besides a dell inspiron E1705.09:42
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pollyoHow do I determine my machines network ip address?09:42
geniipollyo: ifconfig09:42
Jucatoifconfig ?09:42
Jucatosnap!09:43
pollyoThank you.09:43
JucatoI so hate you, genii!09:43
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geniiheh :)09:43
Jucato:P09:43
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geniiSorry for the typo :)09:43
Jucatoshould I take it after you dropped an 'o' in my name? :D09:43
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genii:)09:44
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firecrotchpremier_:  Do you have to enter your XP activation key when you re-image the hard drive?09:46
CugelDudes, I have a problem with apt-get. There are dependency problems with some 'not fully installed' packages. How do I get rid of those packages to download and upgrade again?09:47
firecrotchCugel: apt-get remove <packagename>09:48
CugelI get lots of errors when it tries to update the fontconfig cache.09:49
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OkinawaInstructowould someone beable to help me set up an external hard drive, i cant get my machine to mount it09:50
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premier_OkinawaInstructo: what seems to be the problem?09:53
premier_or as we say,09:53
premier_!ask09:53
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:53
premier_:)09:54
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OkinawaInstructoi try to mount an external hard drive and i keep getting the following error09:54
OkinawaInstructomount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:54
netdaemonhello there...simple question09:54
netdaemonis there a way to purge a program, AND all its dependencies?09:55
netdaemoninstead of just removing the deps09:55
premier_will it be possible, before kde4 is completely stable, to run kde4 alongside kde3?09:55
Jucatopremier_: yes. it is possible now. but kde4 isn't that usable enough to be worth going through it all09:55
premier_OkinawaInstructo: idk. Is do you know what sda1 is?  I mean, what is your primary drive, right now?  hda1?09:56
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OkinawaInstructopremier_:  yes, hda is the primary device, sda1 is normaly the external hard drive, i had it working about a month ago, disconnected it to use at work, brought it back and no workie09:57
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zouzou85hii guys09:58
zouzou85i just installed kubuntu, and updated it , sofar everything was fine until i tried to install kxdocker,09:59
zouzou85i tried to install the .deb but didn't work, so i am trying the source09:59
ForgeAusI had trouble with kxdocker too, I use Kooldock09:59
Jucato!info kxdocker09:59
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB09:59
zouzou85can i post the error ?10:00
ForgeAus!info kooldock10:00
ubotukooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB10:00
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zouzou85honestly, i don't llike kooldock10:01
zouzou85http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12728/10:01
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Jucatozouzou85: have you tried installing kxdocker from the repos?10:03
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zouzou85didn't work jucato10:04
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zouzou85does it seem like a missing dependency?10:04
Jucatohm..10:06
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CarinArrkxdocker from the repository didn't work for me either10:07
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zouzou85did you get it working tho, CarinArr?10:07
CarinArrno, i ended up using avant-window-navigator;)10:08
CarinArrwhich is nice btw10:08
firecrotchjust tried to install kxdocker, and it's not working on Feisty10:08
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zouzou85whhat's funny is that it went thru the same process with a different box, and it worked!10:09
zouzou85well, kinda worked!!!10:09
zouzou85lol10:09
CarinArrheh10:09
CarinArr"kinda"10:09
zouzou85the black background!!!!!10:10
CarinArrah10:10
zouzou85the box's got an old video card10:10
premier_does anyone know the status or kubuntu on mactels?  according to the 7.04 roadmap, it should work, but does it work on the liveCDs?10:10
firecrotchHrm... I'm liking kooldock, seems to be working nicely.10:10
CarinArrhaven't tried kooldock, was running kiba-dock which was a bugfest10:11
CugelDudes, I fixed my errors myself. Full explanation (handy for some I presume) is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/76778  -- yes it was a bug.10:11
zouzou85guys where do you get kibadock?10:12
CarinArri'm really liking awn tho, if i could only reduce the icon size10:12
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intelikeyok wazup10:12
CarinArruhm, can't remember.. i think if you google kibadock and ubuntu you should get quite a few results10:12
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CarinArrtho, i personally wouldn't go there again unless you like having to restart your dock every 20 minutes10:13
CarinArrBUT maybe i was just unlucky;)10:13
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Jucatointelikey: fortunately, the sky10:13
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intelikeyyeah.10:13
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intelikeyit would really be something if it wasn't10:14
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firecrotch!info inetutils-inetd10:15
intelikeyit is root10:15
ubotuinetutils-inetd: Internet super server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3+20051212-4 (edgy), package size 38 kB, installed size 136 kB10:15
intelikeyrun root run10:15
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zouzou85if i install beryl from the repos, will i have probs?10:18
intelikeyyeah10:18
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zouzou85or is  it better to install it from source?10:18
CarinArrzouzou85: i'd recomment following this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu10:19
intelikeyno i'm just saying that cause everyone seems to have some sort of issue with it no matter how they install it.10:19
CarinArri never had any issues with it actually10:19
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intelikeynone ?10:19
zouzou85nice to know that!!!!10:19
CarinArrnone that i can think of10:19
intelikeyk10:19
firecrotchNone. and I'm using Feisty10:19
CarinArrapart from when i minimize windows, the animation stalls for a split second before minimizing completely10:19
intelikeywell that works for me.10:19
CarinArrbuti don't know if that counts as an "issue";)10:20
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genii"unexpected feature"10:25
intelikeyyuch i had ff installed and didn't even know until i started to update and saw that it wanted to get 25m of updates    looked and it was ff...10:26
geniiWell, time to go do some work :)10:26
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geniia round of coffee on me and I'll see you all later10:27
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intelikeygenii kkk10:27
intelikeyk10:27
zouzou85good one genii10:27
intelikeythree don't look good... i added the forth.10:27
genii:):)10:27
firecrotchintelikey: What's wrong with ff?10:27
intelikeyfirecrotch it's ugly bloated and i wouldn't use it if i didn't have a browser.10:28
intelikeymainly takes up way to much space.10:28
firecrotchSo let me guess... you use links?10:28
ForgeAusor w3c10:29
intelikeyyep10:29
ForgeAushow about Dillo?10:29
intelikeylinks2 -g10:29
intelikeyit's not bad.10:29
ForgeAusoh wait that requires a gui! sorry...10:29
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mrigns<310:30
ForgeAusso how do you see all the pictures in Links2?10:30
intelikeyit's a bit on the homely side but ...10:30
mrigns10:30
ForgeAuslol10:30
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intelikeysvgalibs + links2 -g [size] 10:31
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firecrotchHrm... links2 with the -g option isn't too bad, actually...10:33
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firecrotchI gotta have my tabs though :)10:34
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intelikeyfirecrotch try elinks10:35
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firecrotchI sort of have to stick with Firefox though... kinda hard to develop a website when you're using a text based browser10:42
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vainerm10:42
vainhello10:42
vain:D10:42
firecrotchhello, vain! Or is is Mr ?10:42
firecrotch*it10:42
vaini'm trying to make it  'Mr Vain'   :D10:42
vainbut someone is already using it!10:42
vainit's not fair!10:42
vainbuaaaaaa10:42
vain:D10:42
firecrotchYou can always find out if the nick is actually active and if not, ask to have it purged10:43
vainyeah,yeah10:43
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vaini would do that only if i knew how :D10:43
vainbut nvm10:43
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vainvain is good too10:44
vainoh10:44
vaini'm a Linux NeWb :D10:44
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mrignsNOOOOB10:44
vainyeah :D10:44
firecrotchvain: How long have you been using Linux?10:44
vaindnow10:45
vainbooted up on it 5-6 times10:45
firecrotchvain: how are you liking it so far?10:45
vainuhmm10:46
vainoh i like it10:46
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vaini'm dissapointed a bit10:46
vaincan't play mp3 files :D10:46
vainteh usual problem10:46
chijinthat's very easy to fix10:47
mrignswhich distro are u using?10:47
firecrotch!mp310:47
vainalthought i did all that --   sudo aptitude install libxine extracodes ... stuff10:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:47
vain^10:47
vainlol10:47
vainnice bot :D10:47
firecrotchubotu rocks!10:48
uboturocks: Make network sockets reliable in a transparent way. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-3build1 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 248 kB10:48
firecrotchUm... yeah...10:48
firecrotch!botsnack10:49
ubotuYum!10:49
vain!botkill10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botkill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
vain!botheadshot10:49
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botheadshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
apokryphos!botabuse10:49
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...10:49
Tm_Tvain: stop10:49
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vainlol10:49
vainok10:49
vainfirecrotch:where are you from?10:49
firecrotchvain: Milwaukee, Wisconsin10:50
vainwow10:50
vainnice10:50
vaini'm from Croatia10:50
vain:)10:50
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vain!help10:51
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:51
tarelerulzI have sub for movie ,they are in sub format and not some other10:51
firecrotchvain: I suggest we continue this in #kubuntu-offtopic (they don't like general chatter like this in the main channel)10:51
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tarelerulzHow would you find how to convert them or get mplayer to use them10:51
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chijinit should work just fine10:53
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intelikey.jpg files ?    what's a good free format for that ?   .png?11:00
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intelikey_..$11:28
chijinthere's no reason to convert jpg files11:29
intelikeyis if you can't view them11:30
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intelikeyi have some binary code inside a perl script,  is that normal ?11:31
chijinjpgs should be viewable by default..11:32
intelikey$temp = "$_$scale";11:32
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intelikeychijin default what ?11:32
CarinArrintelikey: what are you using that can't view jpg files11:32
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intelikeyCarinArr browser11:33
CarinArrwhat browser?11:33
intelikeyviews gif ok.11:33
intelikeylet me see if i can find a png11:34
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CarinArrmust be a pretty crappy browser if it won't let you see jpgs11:34
CarinArrgiven the absolute majority of images online are jpgs11:35
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intelikeylunx11:36
intelikeylynx11:36
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intelikeyit's kicking up some other app for the png's and gif's  but nothing on a jpg.11:37
CarinArryou can probably enable it to start something for jpgs11:37
CarinArrwhy you'd use lynx if you want to view images i don't know11:37
intelikeybesides these weren't online.   not that location really matters11:37
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intelikeyi just kinda figured this image viewer "what ever it is" didn't do jpg...11:39
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intelikeyhmmmm says "ImageMagick"   pid is  8587 ttyp0    S+     0:01 display gif:/tmp/pIkHX.gif11:42
intelikeyImageMagick should do jpg's though, right ?11:43
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intelikeyDescription: Image manipulation programs Imagemagick is a set of programs to manipulate various image formats (JPEG, TIFF, PhotoCD, PBM, XPM, etc...). All manipulations can be achieved through shell commands as well as through an X11 graphical interface (display).11:44
intelikeyis jpeg near the same as jpg ?11:45
_4str1exactly the same11:45
intelikeythen i wonder why it's not turning out anything on .jpg files....11:46
intelikeymaybe i'll rename one and see if that's what it's looking at.11:46
_4str1intelikey: just rename jpg  tu jpeg11:46
ffffu!gnu11:46
ubotuG(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org11:46
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ubotuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!11:47
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:47
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intelikey_4str1 that doesn't seem to do it...  it may be in the lynx configs.... let me look there11:50
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_4str1intelikey: what are you trying to do ?11:51
mrignsi cant get nvidia-glx working in feisty11:52
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mrignsevery time i write "nvidia" in the xorg x wont start11:53
mrignsuntil i change it back to nv11:53
mrigns!nvidia11:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:53
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Jucatomrigns: you upgraded to driver 9755? check if your card is supported by the new driver11:54
Jucatomrigns: also, #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions11:54
Jucatomrigns: list of cards http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html11:54
mrignsi checked the list earlier11:55
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intelikey_4str1 hmm  oh just playing around with pictures in the console trying new things i haven't tried befor.     the Imagemagick can display them it's in the lynx config not calling on some .extentions    i don't think i'll mess much with it though.    was also writing a script in the mean time.11:55
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intelikeywhat's the best [ test  for a command ?   ! -z    ?11:58
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c1|freakydoes anyone have a ATI mobility X700 running with the default drivers comming with kubuntu? do they have any special configuration for compiz/beryl?12:05
chijinc1|freaky: edgy?12:05
c1|freakyfeisty12:05
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chijinc1|freaky: i'm running edgy and beryl with that card with the repo driver12:06
c1|freakyhm, o k12:06
chijini could give you my conf you want it12:06
c1|freakyno thanks im running the drivers from ati.com ;D12:06
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mart81anyone else with a Dell m1710 laptop here?12:08
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__Xenhello everyone12:08
mart81because feisty seems to output "Broken pipe: Underrun occurred." when i use recordmydesktop.12:09
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ledementeHi all.12:15
ledementeI want to find a way to add and edit emoticons on kopete MSN12:15
dwidmannledemente, well, there's an emoticon pack for kopete floating around somewhere, maybe it's called kdeartwork-emoticons?12:16
dwidmannmight be something worth looking at there, as for adding/editing .... I can dig that up if you want12:16
ledementeOh? That'd be sweet as.12:17
dwidmann/usr/share/emoticons/12:17
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ledementeYeah, I added an image into there, but Kopete hasn't noticed it and there's no "code" for it.12:18
dwidmannYou probably have to edit the emoticons.xml file for it to recognize it, I'd think12:18
dwidmannyeah, that's definitely it12:19
ledementeWhere's that located?12:20
ledemente(locate... faileD)12:20
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dwidmannin the emoticon themes folder, so, /usr/share/emoticons/sometheme/emoticons.xml12:21
intelikey ls /usr/share/emoticons/12:21
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ledementeahh thanks12:22
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dwidmannooh, the coffee is finally starting to kick in a little12:23
radu_I have a problem with my newly bought keyboard12:23
radu_could someone help... the F keys do not work properly12:23
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intelikeypress the button that turns off the "extended functions"12:24
intelikeyupper left corner12:24
radu_which do you mean?12:24
LynoureAt upper left corner I have the power button :)12:25
intelikeyLynoure that would work too   :)12:25
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dwidmannI always thought the upper left button was "Esc" o.O12:26
amayerahi12:26
amayeradoes anybody know what I need /proc/kcore for?12:26
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radu_well, I don't have such a power button12:26
intelikeydwidmann assuming it's one of those windows media keyboards with the extra 45 buttons and a scroller      then it's not esc12:26
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dwidmannoh ... I've got a 64-key keyboard ..... or something like that ... guess I'm working in the other direction12:27
ledementedwidmann: slight issue12:27
ledementeI've got the emoticon installed... but people can'12:27
ledementet see it12:27
radu_see this please for the keyboard model http://www.xpire.com.cn/showproduct.asp?ArticleID=144&key=212:27
dwidmannledemente: no, but I'm more than willing to bet you can12:28
ledementeOh I can.12:28
ledementeBut surely... they should be able to see it?12:28
radu_I don't need the multimedia features on, what I need is just all the normal keys to work.... and the F keys do not work properly12:28
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dwidmannI think that's the way it works. I'm not sure the msn custom emoticon thing works .... wait, maybe it can ledemente, one sec while I check something12:29
ledementeokay12:29
ledementeOh, and you can call me Liam. XP12:29
dwidmannI've got it ledemente12:30
dwidmannerm, liam12:30
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dwidmannin the buddy window, right click on the msn icon for the account, edit account, msn settings tab, "export the current emoticon theme to users", check it12:31
intelikeySYSTEM REQUIREMENT Windows    98/Me/2000/XP   Macintosh OS8.6  or higher       hehhe  they never mention linux.   linux don't exist as far as hardware makers are concerned...12:31
ledementedwidmann: I'm trying it now. :D12:32
dwidmannintelikey, with regards to linux, what about cherry, I thought they thought linux existed12:32
radu_well, i've seen that... but it should yet work in some way I suppose12:32
dwidmannand my keyboard is advertised correctly ... agnostic ... the logo key consists of a small diamond12:33
radu_as the rest of the keys work very well12:33
intelikeyi didn't know cherry existed....12:33
intelikey;S12:33
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dwidmannThey don't where I live, I think they're Europe only12:33
ledementedwidmann: okay, next bizarre thing, they can see something... it's a white box.12:33
dwidmannledemente, guess we're getting somewhere now eh?12:34
intelikeyradu_ i still think it just the press of one button that "turns off" the extended functions12:34
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dwidmannliam, give it a minute, maybe it will load for them momentarily or something, or perhaps, on an off c hance, you might want to restart kopete12:34
ledementePerhaps... I tried restarting.12:34
ledementeWell, thanks.12:34
intelikeymy mother has one of those.  it alwasy defaults to 'extended functions on' but there is a button12:35
dwidmannradu_, perhaps changing the key layout in systemsettings would help?12:35
dwidmannledemente, I honestly don't know ... I'd never played with it before, I just thought I saw it in the menu somewhere once ...12:36
radu_well, i tried changing it buth no result12:37
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ledementeRawr. Still nothing.12:47
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NGUKanyone know the name of that utility that displays jpegs and gifs that are coming over the network - sort of like a graphical network sniffer for images?12:50
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philfo1why is it that the icons and fonts on my computer are getting smaller?  how do I get them back to a larger more friendly size?12:52
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intelikeystop setting the resolution to a higher and higher setting ?12:54
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philfo1I haven't set anything12:54
philfo1and where is it that I can change that setting?12:54
intelikeytry something in the 1024x800 range12:55
philfo1I know12:55
intelikeywith a high refresh of course12:55
philfo1yes, yes.12:55
philfo1where is the utility to get that done?12:55
intelikeymenu > system > resolution    or something like that12:56
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intelikeyi'm lagging about 19 minutes right now.12:57
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NGUK!ping01:05
ubotupong01:05
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c1|freaky!ping01:05
intelikeyping who ?  ping me ?01:07
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NGUKjust a quick ping to see what the lag is - some ppl seem to be heavily lagged01:07
smilehey guys ..how much time takes to upgrade Dapper ? I have 128ko DSL (can have 158ko speed download )01:08
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NGUKsmile: gonna take a couple of hours at least01:08
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smileNGUK: sure ? with 15 ko speed download ?01:09
intelikeyNGUK yeah i am.   20 seconds +01:09
NGUKsmile: 15k down?  make that more like 6 hours :(01:09
raffytaffyi have i915pm chipset - ditching all the i810 and ati/amd stuff is safe correct?01:09
intelikeyor 16 hours.01:10
smileNGUK: 6 hour :-o01:10
smileNGUK: so i will keep my dapper ;-)01:10
NGUKsmile: its not just the downloading, its the installing and configuring. that alone takes a fair amount of time01:10
smileNGUK: but 6 hour is too much .. maybe i will in a free time :-)01:11
NGUKsmile: its automatic, give or take a couple of questions like "do you wanna keep your config or replace it with the package maintainer's version?"01:11
intelikeyfull release upgrade takes about hour and an half AFTER the get.01:12
NGUKIf you're upgrading to Edgy, why not order an install Cd via ShipIt ?01:12
smileNGUK: how ?01:12
c1|freakyi'd upgrade to feisty01:12
c1|freaky;p01:12
NGUKc1|freaky: I'd wait til its stable ;P01:12
intelikeyit's beta now....  why wait ?01:13
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NGUKcos beta != stable01:13
intelikeythat's a joke ^  you hear me.  a joke.01:13
NGUK;)01:13
intelikey:)01:13
smileNGUK: i have already ce of Ubuntu edgy but i want upgrade Dapper to Edgy not install directly Edgy01:14
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smileNGUK: koz Edgy dont support my DSL modem01:14
NGUKto be fair, not had many problems with Feisty Beta.  Odd colours on menus got fixed quickly.  Key repeat got turned off this morning for no apparent reason. Atari ST emulator freezes up now :(01:14
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intelikeyi didn't say it was impossable, just incredable01:16
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NGUKWorked before dapper, didn't after01:16
intelikeywell this system is now as up-to-date as if it had internet connetction...01:17
intelikeyi kinda wish i did have internet ....01:17
smileNGUK: i found many problems in (k)ubuntu .. i see Mandriva & Redhat r more stable !!01:18
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AmyRoseMy old laptop stopped working with CPU speed changing because the kernel maintainers foolishly patched the p4_clockmod module without providing a way to bypass the "fix" on false-positives01:19
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NGUKI had the bug logged in Launchpad since Dapper, but nothing has ever happened01:19
intelikeywait am i connected......     hmmm nope can't really be called an  "internet connection"  it's dialup.01:20
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AmyRoseI reported a bug in the legacy S3 video driver because the bug was deleted and marked fixed without an actual fix being committed to Feisty01:20
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NGUKintelikey: RFC2549 may be the answer...01:20
geniiintelikey Heh :) I have P2 boxes here that do voip over dialup buddy01:20
intelikeyNGUK no it's too old.01:20
NGUKtoo old for carrier pigeons? :-o01:21
iwananybody has used wine in kubuntu?01:21
intelikeygenii that would be an improvement over this p1  :)01:21
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intelikeyiwan everybod but you01:21
intelikeyy01:21
geniiintelikey Geez :) You running ubuntu on it??01:21
intelikeygenii yes01:22
geniistubborn so n so01:22
NGUKintelikey: with X ? or console only?01:22
intelikey64m ram   no swap     and i do run kde on it at times01:22
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intelikeygenii just get the coffee01:23
intelikey:)01:23
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NGUKiwan: I've used wine in kubuntu01:23
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iwanNGUK..ok01:23
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intelikeynot the MinceR thing tho genii01:24
genii:)01:24
iwani used to use civil enginer prog on win..can i do it on linux too?01:24
philfo1how do I set kmail to automatically do a send/receive?01:24
geniiMinceR: Well if you hate coffee, then a beverage of your choice :)01:24
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geniiiwan what is the name of the program?01:25
iwan<NGUK> i used to use civil enginer prog on win..can i do it on linux too?01:25
intelikeyphilfo1 better to use fetchmail and a cron job in my openion01:25
iwan<genii> sap 200001:25
philfo1???01:25
NGUKiwan: its too specific an application to be sure - best thing is to just tr it01:25
intelikeyphilfo1 fetchmail/sendmail can transport and sort all your mail.01:26
philfo1is that through terminal?01:26
geniiGeez that company is based in Berkely and they can't srite at least a BSD version of SAP 2000 ??? Weird01:27
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geniisrite = write01:27
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intelikeyphilfo1 the setup would partly be in the terminal  then after it's setup as a cron job you don't worry about it anymore all your kmail activities are local.01:27
intelikeybut that may be to "advanced" for what you want.01:28
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intelikeycheckout the settings in "kontact"01:28
philfo1thanks01:28
intelikeymybe you can do what you want there01:28
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intelikeyonly no teeth marks.01:30
NGUKintelikey: about the only useful thing ESR has ever contributed01:30
MinceRgenii: it was a stargate: atlantis reference :>01:30
iwan<NGUK> i mean..is it possible to use program that run on windows to able to used on wine?01:30
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intelikeyNGUK heh01:30
NGUKiwan: yes, but some work better than others.01:30
iwan<NGUK> any example?01:31
mustasjAnyone know of any k3b 1.0 deb packages out there?01:31
geniiMinceR: Ah OK :) I don't get much time lately to use that newfangled thing called a "television" ROFL01:31
MinceR:)01:31
NGUKiwan: my windows XP key generator works nicely under wine :-D01:31
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NGUKmIRC works under wine nicely too01:31
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NGUK*cough* not that I use mIRC *cough*01:32
CarinArrof course01:32
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NGUKepic2 and splitfire here01:32
NGUKnot even a GUI :D01:32
CarinArri just swapped from epic to irssi a few months ago01:33
NGUKbetter?01:33
CarinArri barely notice a difference to be honest, just different key bindings01:33
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NGUKfair enough.  I'll stick to what I know then01:33
CarinArri just used to irc from a particular server that restricted irc usage01:34
CarinArrso i swapped to another one, which had irssi installed already;)01:34
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NGUKI know the feeling - I ssh to my shell provider and irc from there.01:34
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genii!info linsap01:35
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ubotuPackage linsap does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas01:35
geniihm01:35
elbingwhy is not there a ubotu in #kubuntu-es ?01:36
elbingfrance has one01:36
NGUKprolly cos nobody has translated one yet - why not volunteer?01:36
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elbingoh we can have one in english and translate in real-time while we are tranlate an ubotu-es :p01:37
elbings/translate/translating01:38
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aznsldhi all01:38
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aznsldis this room to ask noob questions?01:39
NGUKyeah, why not? ;-)01:39
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aznsldok.. I downloaded the tar file for noip01:40
aznsldwww.no-ip.com01:40
NGUKI know it well, use it myself01:40
|lostbyte|whats the shortcut to make a window sticky ?01:40
aznsldthen I extracted it01:40
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aznsldhow do u install it from there01:40
aznsld(started linux yesterday)01:40
aznsld=)01:40
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NGUKaznsld: make01:40
|lostbyte|shortcut key*01:40
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aznsldhmm ok..01:40
NGUKaznsld: when thats finished, sudo make install01:41
aznsldlet me try it01:41
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genii!info avocado01:41
ubotuPackage avocado does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas01:41
geniihmm01:41
CarinArrmmm avocado01:41
geniisomeone needs to port a good cad program01:42
genii!usersnack01:42
ubotuAre peanut husks ok? The ops ate the nuts already...01:42
aznsldhmm01:42
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aznsldaznsld@aznsld-desktop:~/temp/noip-2.1.4$ make01:43
aznsldbash: make: command not found01:43
aznsldHmm..01:43
NGUKaznsld: ok, do sudo apt-get install build-essential01:43
aznsldok01:44
NGUKaznsld: this will get you the required tools to build it :)01:44
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aznsldaznsld@aznsld-desktop:~/temp/noip-2.1.4$ sudo apt-get install build-essential01:44
aznsldPassword:01:44
aznsldE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:44
aznsldE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:44
aznsldaznsld@aznsld-desktop:~/temp/noip-2.1.4$01:44
aznsldhmmm..01:44
NGUKdo you have adept_manager or synaptic open?01:45
aznsldlol01:45
NGUKor maybe the little update notifications icon is in your toolbar?01:45
aznsldsynaptic01:45
aznsld=P01:45
aznsldmy bad..01:45
NGUKI still forget that one myself, even after all this time :)01:45
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aznsldI just wanna say thank you lots01:46
aznsldhow long will this take01:46
aznsld?01:46
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NiceGuyUKdepends on yer machine - 10 mins maybe less ?01:46
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aznsldaznsld@aznsld-desktop:~/temp/noip-2.1.4$ make01:47
aznsldgcc -Wall -g -O2 -Dlinux -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" noip2.c -o noip201:47
NiceGuyUKthats a good start :)01:48
aznsldnoip2.c: In function get_all_device_names:01:48
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aznsldnoip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of strlen differ in signedness01:48
NiceGuyUKwarnings are ok, its errors we wanna avoid01:48
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aznsldnoip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of strlen differ in signedness01:49
aznsldnoip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of __builtin_strcmp differ in signedness01:49
Defaullltola01:49
aznsldnoip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of __builtin_strcmp differ in signedness01:49
NiceGuyUKaznsld: leave it running for a bit and see if it finishes successfully.01:49
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NiceGuyUKaznsld: just holler if it fails :01:49
aznsldnoip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of strlen differ in signedness01:49
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aznsldnoip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of __builtin_strcmp differ in signedness01:50
aznsldnoip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of __builtin_strcmp differ in signedness01:50
aznsldnoip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of strncmp differ in signedness01:51
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NiceGuyUKmake outputs to irc now? thats a novel "feature" :-p01:51
aznsldnoip2.c:2155: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of __builtin_strchr differ in signedness01:51
aznsldhmm01:51
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aznslddid it01:52
NiceGuyUKnow its built, you can install it with :- sudo make install01:52
aznsldwork01:53
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aznsldanother noob thing//01:56
aznsldumm where do I find no-ip in my folders01:56
aznsldumm01:56
aznsldthose error I showed u01:56
aznsldwere the end of it01:56
aznsldthere is no more stuff installing01:56
aznsldi tryed making it again01:56
aznsldmake: `noip2' is up to date01:56
aznsldso does that mean it is installed?01:56
NiceGuyUKthe sudo make install thing should have installed it01:56
NiceGuyUKthen to run it, just do sudo noip201:56
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NiceGuyUKthe program should have installed into /usr/local/bin01:57
NiceGuyUKyou can check by typing :- which noip201:57
aznsldPlease enter an update interval:[30] 01:57
aznsldwhat does that suppose to mean?01:57
NiceGuyUKhow often do you want noip2 to update your IP address and send it to no-ip.com ?01:58
NiceGuyUKin minutes as far as I remember01:58
aznsldaww ok01:58
aznsldok installed how do I open it?01:58
NiceGuyUKsudo noip201:59
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NiceGuyUKits commandline only, you won't see a GUI01:59
aznsldoh awesome01:59
aznsldhow do I know if it is there01:59
NiceGuyUKit just gets your ip and lets no-ip.com know what it is01:59
aznsldis there a cmd that will tell me01:59
aznsld?01:59
NiceGuyUKto check its alive, try ps aux | grep noip201:59
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aznsldyeap i see it02:00
NiceGuyUKI gotta go now, run outta lunchbreak :(  Hopefully someone else can carry on helping you if you have more problems02:00
aznsldawesome02:00
aznsldhey02:00
aznsldare u in here alot?02:00
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NiceGuyUKstarted coming in yesterday :)02:00
aznsldawesome02:00
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NiceGuyUKcame in to ask a question, stayed to answer a few :)02:00
aznsldmaybe we can meet at a later time?02:00
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NiceGuyUKmaybe.02:00
aznsldmsn or aim or sumthing?02:01
NiceGuyUKsee ya later, and good luck02:01
aznsldlater02:01
geniiWow, lost in the web looking for some decent linux civil engineering prog and found a CLI structural analysis tool. Who'd a thunk it02:01
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aznsldbye all02:02
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aznsldwhat is the command to see my network ip?02:07
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jxnnetstat02:08
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jxn@ aznld: try 'netstat | grep tcp'02:10
jxn;-)02:10
aznsldty02:10
aznsldhad to do something for my router02:10
gnomefreaki dont see an ip there02:10
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jxnhmm, then 'ifconfig'02:11
jxnshould work02:11
gnomefreakthat would be it02:11
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aznsldawesome02:12
aznsldty02:12
aznsldlater all02:12
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IrayoOkay, I have a file set to mode 770 (rwxrwx---) and in group 'bob'.  User 'jim' is in group 'bob'.  How come he can't read the file?02:12
geniiToo bad CATIA isn't going to be open-sourced anytime soon :(02:13
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mustasjIrayo: paste output from ls -la file02:13
Irayomustasj: -rwxrwx--- 1 andrew bob 81505 2007-03-29 07:06 /var/www/main/index.php02:15
mackymanHey everyone. Is there a way to make so that all files in /var/www always have the 773 permssion and owned by www-data:www-data?02:17
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mackymanCouse when I put a file in there, I am the owner, and then some php files won't be able to chmod and some certain things02:17
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jxnmackyman: log in as www-data, then put your files there02:18
mackymankk, so I can't just copy them there from konqueror02:18
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mackyman( Like when I get some files from other ppl to work with )02:19
mackymanthx jxn for the help02:19
jxntry chown to change the ownd02:20
jxnowner02:20
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ondrejpHey guys.02:28
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ondrejpI installed Beryl. What does it perform better with, nVidia or nVidia and XGL?02:28
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dwidmannondrejp: nvidia, most likely02:36
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JontyI've been installing Gentoo and using the same kde configuration as my current Kubuntu install which I'm now on. My taskbar is missing from the panel. Any ideas?02:37
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dwidmannjonty: well, you could just try to add it back ... right click the panel -> add applet02:37
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embrapaHi .....im loving kubuntu!!02:48
embrapachijin: hi02:49
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eilker!whois02:51
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geniiouchiews02:51
geniiouchies, even02:51
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embrapa!eclipse02:52
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geniiAnyone survive?02:52
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_JuJuBee_Morning All.02:52
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embrapabom dia _JuJuBee_02:52
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_JuJuBee_I just put together a new server and wish to use it to block/allow internet access using access lists.02:53
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_JuJuBee_I have a linksys wrt54g wireless router doing it now (sort of, but it is flaky at best).02:54
_JuJuBee_My question is, what do I install on the server to handle things like blocking URL's and access to the internet during certain times of day?02:54
_JuJuBee_I will connect the server to the wall and the wireless router to the server.02:55
_JuJuBee_Server has 2 NIC's.02:55
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jan___i'm having a problem with "sudo" and root users02:58
jan___can someone help me?02:58
apokryphos!sudo02:58
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:03
^V^jan___: what exactly is the problem?03:03
jan___apokryphos: i know this03:03
jan___well ... i have "only" 1 user03:03
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jan___and i did a usermod03:03
jan___to add this user to the root group03:03
emp__Hi, I upgraded to feisty and 'arts' is gone from the sound interfaces list in amarok03:03
emp__anyone know why?03:03
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jan___now, when i want to "useradd" i get a message that only root can do this03:09
apokryphosis the arts engine even supported anymore?03:09
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jxnemp__: because feisty is still beta. ;)03:09
apokryphosjan___: you're prefixing the command with sudo?03:09
jan___so i do "sudo useradd" and then it says that my user is not in sudoers list ^03:09
emp__oh so beta means no music anymore03:09
emp__oO03:09
apokryphosjan___: you really shouldn't be playing with sudoers or usermod.03:09
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apokryphosjan___: looks like you removed your user from the admin group.03:09
jan___look; in /etc/group says it that i'm in root group03:09
apokryphosjan___: what the heck is the 'root' group?03:09
jan___and i'm able to list the /root dir03:09
apokryphosthe 'root' group is called 'admin' on ubuntu03:09
jan___when i do this: cat /etc/group03:09
jan___first line is03:09
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jan___root:x:0:jan (jan being my username)03:09
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apokryphoswhy did you add yourself to the root group?03:09
jan___does that matter?03:09
apokryphosyes03:09
jan___i mean, i was just trying something03:09
apokryphosif you read the doc you'd find it was not the correct way to do it03:09
odin__root is a dangerous place to be, hence sudo :] 03:09
jan___is there any way i can add a new user?03:09
jxnjan__: recovery mode03:09
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jan___i added myserlf to "root-group" because in my students book it says i have to do this to list /root03:09
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apokryphosjan___: book...for ubuntu?03:09
eagles0513875how do i change from single clicking to double clikin03:09
jan___yup03:09
jan___linux in general03:09
eagles0513875is that book worth purchasing03:09
apokryphosjan___: so not ubuntu specifically then ;-)03:09
apokryphosjan___: distros can completely change the way things are handled. Especially with the traditional su model, Ubuntu deviates quite a bit.03:09
jan___look, we did this in school and there was no problem03:09
apokryphosjan___: use the documentation at help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com03:09
emp__jxn: thx for the info03:09
emp__i needed the libxine-kde package03:09
jxnchoose the recovery mode from the grub menu at startup, there you're always root.03:09
jan___usermod -g 100 -G 0 jan03:09
emp__but thx for the beta info03:09
emp__!03:09
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eagles0513875what beta info lol03:09
jan___shouldn't change anything about nog being a admin anymore?03:09
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hw__What are the tricks to copy the selection (from a non-RO) PDF in acrobat reader? Just "copy" does not work03:10
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hw__non-RO == Copying is allowed03:10
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odin__:D03:11
jxntry google. ;)03:11
odin__i know how to get it, just apt-get and aptiture didnt find it03:11
odin__isnt it in universe?03:11
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odin__*aptitude03:11
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jxnodin__: nope, because it is illegal in some countrys03:12
Arwenwhat's illegal?03:12
odin__bah, /me finds03:12
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eagles0513875?03:12
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jxnlibdvdcss is illegal. at least in germany. ;)03:13
Arwenheh03:14
eagles0513875interesting03:14
jxnyeah, but nobody cares. :-D03:14
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odin-arghappy?03:14
odin-argeverything else is taken :p03:14
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asincronohi03:16
jxnhi03:16
asincronohow can I list all the network cards pluged in the machine?03:17
gdiebelasincrono: ifconfig03:17
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jxnor lspci03:18
asincronoso, if I have a tarjet not listed with ifconfig it means that kernel do not know about it?03:18
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emp__ is there any way to allow only one konqueror session and open new konqueror sessions in tabs of the one session that is allowed?03:18
jhutchins_kcgenii: Yeah, that's quite a run, isn't it?03:18
jhutchins_kcAh, must be the netsplits.  I see my name is my secondary nick.03:19
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jhutchinsThere.03:19
geniijhutchins_kc: I thinkt hats the main reason :)03:19
jhutchinsgenii: There was once the suggestion that that was the proper way to do a secondary connection, add a "_" after your name.  Some irc client picked it up and automates addding "_"'s until it hits a unique nick.03:20
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jhutchinsI think it's stupid, given autocompletion.  You want unique characters at the beginning of your name.03:20
Jontydwidmann: Thanks! (belatyedly)03:20
jxnasincrono: no, it means that its not configured.03:20
geniiIf your nick is something like _ to begin with it's pretty nasty :)03:20
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_JuJuBee_genii : OK, I wil lchange it...03:25
BenjaminB_jxn: if asincrono would use ifconfig -a, he would see all interfaces known by the kernel, right?03:25
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qsuhi people wich version of mesa is shipped with kubuntu edgy03:26
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Arwenqsu, apt says 6.5.2 for feisty.... one sec, the edgy one must be close03:27
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Arwenqsu, 6.5.103:28
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jxnBenjaminB_: yes, but probably just the interfaces, not all network cards03:28
BenjaminB_kk03:28
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qsuhow can i do an easy upgrade Arwen03:31
Arwenqsu, from what to what?03:31
jxnmesa, i guess03:31
Arwenqsu, ah, you don;t03:31
Arwendon't*03:31
Arwenunless you wanna try feisty out03:31
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odin-argany1 using beryl?03:32
Arwenmme03:32
Arwenme*03:32
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odin-argi got it to work yesterdat03:32
odin-arg*y03:32
qsui need it Arwen btw how long is it compiling on a celeron 800 mhz03:33
qsuwith 25603:33
jxnqsu: you could change your repos to feisty temorary, upgrade mesa, then change your repos back to edgy...03:33
Arwencompiling xorg? hours, if not days03:33
odin-argbut now if i start it up, spews out summat bout gfx modules and wont actually show any eye-candy, all sart fine tho :S03:33
Arwenjxn, which may or may not require him to upgrade the rest of his distro :-\03:33
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qsuoke jxn, in wich repo is mesa jxn for edgy03:34
jxnits worth a try. ;)03:34
qsufor feisty03:34
asincronothx BenjaminB_03:34
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jxnqsu: i don't know03:36
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odin-arghrhr03:36
odin-argBeryl works again03:36
odin-arg:] 03:36
qsuoke thanks guyes03:36
qsuguys03:36
jxnodin-arg: congrats.03:36
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=== jxn run it on a dualscreen setup
odin-argi'm yet to figure out how to propperly use beryl, for now everything is just that little bit more fun03:37
wolferinejxn and odin-arg either of u use nvidia cards?03:37
odin-arg:] 03:37
odin-argi am03:38
odin-arg6800gt03:38
jxnnope, a ati x80003:38
qsuanybody luck installing beryl with an Intel Corporation 82815 CGC03:38
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rojanujoin #joomla03:39
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odin-argEnvy ftw @ wolferine03:39
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jxnunfortunately, beryl runs only with radeon for me. :-/03:40
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Arwensame03:40
BluesKajMrning All  :)03:41
odin-argi installed nvidia drivers manually03:41
odin-argberyl failed03:41
Arwen#beryl :-)03:41
odin-argused envy - which was so easy it felt like cheating03:41
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Arwenand #nvidia03:41
odin-argand it worked first time :D03:41
Arwenodin-arg, maybe it failed because you used envy?03:41
jxn:)03:41
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odin-argnah, envy wins :p03:42
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ArwenI used it and it segfaulted my kernel...03:42
odin-argwith developer 1 on i get 300 fps flat on cs03:42
odin-argand 100 on css03:42
odin-arg:] 03:42
jxn:->03:42
BluesKajanyone with beryl on an onboard ATI ?03:42
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ArwenI have a Radeon X300SE.... on CS I might get 40 fps and in CSS 10 fps03:42
ArwenBluesKaj, yes03:43
jxnsame03:43
odin-argoh my Arwen, i had that using the previous version on wine03:43
Arwenodin-arg, ha03:43
odin-argwith .9.33 it worked first time03:43
odin-argeven with the .msi installer03:43
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odin-argi just realised, can't u usermode +x here?03:45
jxndunno  :-?03:45
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odin-arglots of ip's floating about03:46
odin-argnot like that on qnet03:46
odin-arg:p03:46
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shadowhywindi love kubuntu!03:46
odin-argwe all do03:46
odin-arg:p03:46
jxnshadowwhywind: me too!03:46
shadowhywindmy sound card finally fully works in the beta fiesty03:47
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odin-argim still on edgy, i'll wait for feisty to go final :p03:48
odin-argkde 3.5.6 tho03:48
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jxnme too. i have no time to rescue my system. :P03:48
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odin-arg:p03:49
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odin-argu all using konversation?03:50
shadowhywindi have a kubuntu installed on a external as a test version, so if i screw that one up i still have a fully functional one on my laptop. hehe03:50
smileodin-arg: feisty is Beta now .. so what u wait ?03:50
odin-argsmile: for it to go final :p03:50
jxnexactly03:50
compilerwriteranyone know how to adjust the font size in konversation?  I can't seem to find it.03:51
Jucatocompilerwriter: Settings -> COnfigure Konversation -> Fonts?03:51
compilerwriterI am with jxn I wait on stable releases as well.03:52
smileodin-arg: beta is like final release .. and many bugs were fixed03:53
smileodin-arg: I thinks it works fine :-)03:53
Jucatounfortunately... not everybody "can" wait on stable releases... otherwise, who'd do the testing? :)03:53
compilerwriterThanks Jucato.  I thought I was never going to find it again.  Last time I used Konversation was via ssh on a laptop.  Increased the font size then.  Now it is huge one my monitor.03:53
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odin-argsmile: but i'm still going to have to upgrade to final from beta, i'm in no rush :] 03:53
smileJucato: good :-)03:53
smileodin-arg: why u dont test it and join us to make the final release ? ;-)03:54
gnomefreakodin-arg: normal upgrades will get you there03:54
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odin-argi just got beryl AND wine + steam working perfectly03:54
odin-argi dun wanna risk losing that :p03:54
compilerwriterwine + steam?03:55
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odin-argsteam, counter-strike installer platform thingy03:55
jxnnice03:55
compilerwriterI have never had much luck with wine.  I just run two machines.03:56
odin-argim still running a windows machine03:56
BluesKajArwen, can you run DRI dependent programs like Google Earth , with beryl installed ?03:56
Arwencompilerwriter, yeah, same here03:56
odin-argbut wine is making great leaps03:56
ArwenBluesKaj, yes, but with reduced performance03:56
Arwenand on some cards, system instability03:57
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odin-argreactos - looks interesting aswell03:57
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anarky_hiyas03:57
Arwenodin-arg, it doesn't work, trust me :-)03:57
compilerwriter!steam03:57
ubotuSteam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/03:57
jxnafk03:57
Arwenthat's why it's ReactOS 0.4 beta03:57
Arwen0.4 alpha*03:57
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anarky_!help03:58
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:58
Arwensteam runs on linux??03:58
odin-argperfectly with me03:58
odin-arginstalled css, cs, hl... etc03:58
odin-arg:] 03:58
anarky_who is available to assist a linux n00b?03:58
BluesKajyeah Arwen, I experienced strobing effects with Google Earth when I tried beryl , so I dumped it ...I want mt Google Earth !  :)03:59
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Arwenanarky_, how nooby? :-)03:59
compilerwriter!ask | compilerwriter03:59
raffytaffygoogle earth never work good03:59
anarky_well, experienced windows user, knowledge of hardware03:59
ArwenBluesKaj, yeah, on my ATI, opengl flickers when used with beryl03:59
anarky_just not linux03:59
Arwenanarky_, question?03:59
anarky_ok03:59
odin-argi'll help as much as i can, but my knowledge isnt exactly extensive, i just google lots :D03:59
anarky_passowrd for root has been set, yet i cannot use this password to login as root03:59
odin-argsudo03:59
odin-argleave root03:59
gnomefreakanarky_: using sudo?04:00
anarky_i assume so04:00
anarky_yes04:00
Arwenanarky_, don't login as root, Ubuntu uses the sudo concept04:00
odin-argu mean u sudo and the password u give is wrong?04:00
Arwen!rootsudo04:00
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:00
Arwenanarky_, ^^04:00
gnomefreaksu has a tendancy to screw some things up04:00
anarky_yes i have "conversation with su failed" a lot04:00
Arwensudo vs. su is a matter of choice, but...04:00
odin-argi get that a lot04:01
Arwenmight as well stick with what we got04:01
odin-argi just reboot and it goes away04:01
odin-arg:D04:01
anarky_no the pw is right04:01
anarky_this is all the time04:01
anarky_every reboot04:01
Arwenanarky_, there a specific reason you need to login as root? if not, let root die04:01
anarky_oklemme rephrase04:01
anarky_i need root privelages to install stuff and make system changes04:01
gnomefreakanarky_: sudo04:02
anarky_you dont say04:02
anarky_sudo what?04:02
odin-argeg. sudo apt-get installed proggy04:02
anarky_ah04:02
odin-argeg. sudo apt-get install proggy04:02
odin-argeven04:02
odin-arg:s04:02
Arwenanarky_, to get root, you use "sudo <command>"04:02
compilerwriteranarky you need not be root do do that.  That is what sudo and kdesu are for.04:02
gnomefreakanarky_: depends what you want to do04:02
Arwenor, if you need a root console, you use either "sudo -s", "sudo -i", or "sudo su"04:02
anarky_install sound card for one04:02
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Arwendepending on what you need04:02
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anarky_told yo uim a n00b04:04
Arwenanarky_, anything you can do as root, you can do with sudo, trust me04:04
anarky_XD04:04
Arwenit's like UAC in Vista04:04
anarky_i dont use vista04:04
Arwenme neither :-\04:04
odin-argany1 tried vista?04:04
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anarky_nope04:04
compilerwriterarewn there is no need to curse at us?04:04
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anarky_why would i? they finally got it right with xp i think04:04
Arwenodin-arg, nope, takes too much disk space04:04
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Arwencompilerwriter, ???04:04
gnomefreakJucato: you around?04:04
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odin-argi use xp pro x6404:04
CarinArri just wiped my vista partition04:04
Arwenanarky_, bah, the only diff between XP and 2000 was uxtheme.dll......04:04
odin-arglookin good so far04:04
Jucatognomefreak: kinda04:04
odin-argwell "good"04:04
odin-argtis never nix04:04
odin-arg:] 04:04
gnomefreakJucato: it seems the issue will be fixed in nvidia-glx package04:04
anarky_yes, agreed, 2000 was not bad at all04:04
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CarinArrnever particularly planned to use it but came with the laptop so thought i'd give it a try04:04
odin-argi was on win2k until last month04:04
ArwenCarinArr, how was the flip3d? lol04:04
gnomefreakJucato: the geforce4 card issue04:04
odin-argfinally bothered to upgrade04:04
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Jucatognomefreak: oh goody!!! :D04:04
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gnomefreakJucato: thinking it will revert users to legacy04:05
CarinArrit just really annoyed me in general04:05
CarinArrit tries to be all pretty but just comes across as a clunky copycat04:05
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anarky_hey while im here would anyone mind if i plugged a compilor i like to use?04:05
Jucatognomefreak: to the 71xx legacy driver?04:05
gnomefreaki dont think we can make it support gf4 cards bewcause of the copyrite04:05
gnomefreakyes most likely as it stands04:05
Jucatognomefreak: continue in -motu?04:05
gnomefreakthey might change that as well04:05
odin-arganarky_ mm?04:05
gnomefreakk04:05
anarky_anyone heard of freebasic?04:06
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Arwenfree.... basic?04:06
anarky_yes, freebasic04:06
anarky_"FB"04:06
ins-dragonclawfreebasic?04:06
odin-argemacs ftw!04:06
odin-arg:D04:06
anarky_lol04:06
Jucatothere's also KBasic and DarkBasic btw (but not in the repos)04:06
ins-dragonclawlol04:06
anarky_remember qbasic?04:06
ins-dragonclawuh-huh04:06
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anarky_fb is a 99.9% compatible 32 bit replica04:06
JucatoBASIC = not held by MS. it's a language.04:07
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anarky_with a lot more newer stuff in it04:07
ins-dragonclawI guess it's the 0.1% that's the killer, then04:07
Jucatobut... anyway this is rather offtopic04:07
ins-dragonclawmhmm04:07
anarky_only 16bit stuff04:07
Jucato!offtopic04:07
anarky_i know just thought id tell you guys04:07
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:07
anarky_fgs04:07
ins-dragonclawheh04:07
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ins-dragonclawanyone here read 1984 by George Orwell?04:07
CarinArrlol04:07
odin-arglol04:08
ins-dragonclawI think we have a few Thought Police present... :D04:08
CarinArr#kubuntu-offtopic should perhaps be #kubuntu-10104:08
Jucatoyou're free to express your thoughts in the offtopic channels. :)04:08
anarky_well go there so i can continue :D04:08
ins-dragonclawlol04:08
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ins-dragonclawi think i might as well add it to my autojoin list04:08
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Jucato#kubuntu is a channel for Kubuntu-related support questions. While offtopic discussions happen once in a while, it's highly advised to take them to #kubuntu-offtopic . Let's keep this channel clean, and try to liven up that other channel :D Hooray for offtopics and #kubuntu-offtopic !!!04:09
Jucatooh there we are :D04:09
odin-argofftopic is a bit of a dead chan :p04:09
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neil__neil@cascade:~/mp3splt-project/mp3splt-gtk$ ./autogen.sh04:13
neil__Error: you must have autoconf installed to compile mp3splt-gtk !04:13
neil__anyone know waht this means? :S04:13
CarinArrneil__: you need to install automake04:14
neil__also mp3splt is in the repos, but mp3splt-gtk isnt, any way to request a file be added?04:14
neil__automake just via synaptic?04:14
CarinArryeah, there're a few different version though, it will probably say somethin gin the docsfor what you're trying to compile regarding what version i sneeded04:20
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neil__Not specified, assume the newest will be ok?04:20
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neil__Can always remove..04:20
CarinArrneil__: yep04:20
anarky_well thx for the assistance04:20
anarky_cyas04:20
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neil__Running autoconf... configure.ac:19: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_GTK_2_004:20
neil__hmm04:20
CarinArrdo you have the libs for gtk installed04:20
neil__I've never installed them, so I guess no.. what actually is GTK?04:20
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compilerwriter!GTK04:20
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI04:20
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neil__I have libgtk cil, bin, common, libgtk 2.0.0...04:20
ninhertatilhi all04:20
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smileninhertatil: hi04:20
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neil__Looks like i needed the dev packages :)04:22
neil__Running autopoint... autopoint: *** cvs program not found04:22
neil__it carries on after this, so does it matter?04:22
ArwenOMG, wine is sweet! it ships with minesweeper!!!04:22
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CarinArrneil__: i haven't a clue if it matters;)04:23
neil__ok :)04:24
neil__macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library04:24
neil__balls04:24
neil__is there an easy way to find which packages these things are in?04:24
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wolferinei am trying to share a folder outside my /username with proftpd, I have done some research, and its best to use mount -- bind to do this, now, once I have it, I must add it into fstab?04:24
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wolferineand will this cause any issues?04:25
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CarinArrneil__: sudo apt-get install libtool ;)04:27
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jacquesdupontdhey04:27
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jacquesdupontdim trying to install ubuntu with gnome from kubuntu04:27
jacquesdupontdi was thinking that a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop would work but it seems it doesnt04:27
Arwenjacquesdupontd, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:28
jacquesdupontdanyone know how to do ?04:28
Arwenwhy doesn't it work? in what way?04:28
jacquesdupontddoesnt work04:28
jacquesdupontdi go in the terminal04:28
jacquesdupontdi type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:28
wolferinejacquesdupontd, what your doing is just installing gnome, not ubuntu with gnome04:28
jacquesdupontdand there is no packet04:28
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jacquesdupontdi have been always told that we had to do xubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop04:29
jacquesdupontdnot only gnome04:29
jacquesdupontdor xfce04:29
Arwenjacquesdupontd, there is no ubuntu-desktop package?04:29
jacquesdupontdno04:29
Arwenand no, you can just install gnome, but it won't be able to do much04:29
jacquesdupontdand it's brand new kubuntu edgy installed04:29
phyerbosshello, does anyone remember the command to clear the adept cache?...everytime i try to download or uninstall programs it keeps trying to grab a pakage that was broken04:29
jacquesdupontdi want the complete ubuntu04:29
wolferinejacquesdupontd, go to the ubuntu manual online and add into your repos04:29
peakerphyerboss: you can just delete the specific file in /var/cache/apt/archives04:29
jacquesdupontdso is there a packet ?04:29
phyerbossok, thanks04:30
chijinor run apt-get clean04:30
Jucatophyerboss: sudo apt-get clean04:30
jacquesdupontdwolferine: i dont understand04:30
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peakerjacquesdupontd: you don't want ubuntu-desktop package?04:30
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Arwenjacquesdupontd, run apt-get update first04:30
jacquesdupontdi want for sure04:30
Arwen:-)04:30
wolferinejacquesdupontd, google ubuntu manual04:30
jacquesdupontdk04:30
wolferinefirst page comes up04:30
jacquesdupontdgonna run the update04:30
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jacquesdupontdi come back in a few04:30
jacquesdupontdit's not on this computer04:31
wolferinegives you an explaination of all you want to do in ubuntu04:31
neil__hmm04:31
neil__trying to install libogg04:31
neil__macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library04:31
neil__oops04:31
Arwenwolferine, you mean the Ubuntu Bible? I read it... seemed too dumbed down04:31
neil__checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp04:31
neil__configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check04:31
neil__anyone know what this means ? :S04:31
wolferinebible,  I dont think its a bible04:31
wolferineits a manual....04:31
Arwenw00t! w00t! w00t! k3b 1.0 is now in feisty04:31
jacquesdupontdthanks04:31
jacquesdupontdim so stupid04:32
jacquesdupontd;)04:32
Arwenjacquesdupontd, the key note was when you said "I just installed kubuntu" :-)04:32
jacquesdupontdsudo apt-get update i was thinking that it was already done on the beginning04:32
Jucato!compile | neil__04:32
ubotuneil__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:32
jacquesdupontdhuhu :)04:32
neil__thanks :)04:32
neil__!packages libogg04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about packages libogg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:32
Arwenneil__, in a nutshell, you need build-essential04:32
neil__oh ok :)04:33
neil__ty04:33
jacquesdupontdbut i was thinking about it but i was telling myself cant come from this and not doing it, a stupid guy in fact ;)04:33
Arwenalso, whenever configure tells you you're missing something, don't get that package, get package-dev04:33
Jucatoneil__: what are you trying to compile?04:33
neil__mp3splt is what I actually want04:33
neil__but for that I need libogg04:33
jacquesdupontdcool it's my new laptop04:33
wolferinejacquesdupontd, its all a part of learning04:33
neil__it wont accept the one I currently have, which is the only one in the repository04:33
jacquesdupontdyeterday i bought a hp i was so happy when i saw the tatoo on it04:33
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jacquesdupontdwolferine: im ashame cuz i know very well ubuntu since a long time now ;)04:33
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Jucato!info mp3split | neil__04:34
ubotuneil__: Package mp3split does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas04:34
jacquesdupontdso i came back to the shop04:34
jacquesdupontdand told them change me that shit04:34
Jucatobah....04:34
neil__!info mp3splt04:34
ubotump3splt: Splits MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files without reencoding. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 58 kB, installed size 164 kB04:34
neil__mp3splt is there..04:34
neil__however, mp3splt-gtk isnt04:34
jacquesdupontdyou know the tatoo things make that you cant install anything else than a MS software04:34
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neil__the 1st one is command line only..04:34
jacquesdupontdso i bought a fujistsu cuz i didnt saw it in the list of tatooed computers04:34
ubuntu_has anyone installed linux onto an ipod as a way of using it as an external hard drive for a computer?04:35
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jacquesdupontdand when i tried to install ubuntu it was impossible to resize the first partition so i tought that i was going to go back again to the shop but this time VERY VERY NERVOUSLY04:35
jacquesdupontdand i told myself fuck that windows and put the option USE ALL THE DISK04:35
jacquesdupontd;)04:35
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jacquesdupontdand it worked, ffff04:35
jacquesdupontd;)04:35
[tasty] freezeI dont actually want ot install it onto my ipod, but as a way of using it like usb hard drive; while also still keeping use of my ipod04:36
bronze_0_1jacquesdupontd: tattoo thing?04:36
jacquesdupontdyep04:36
jacquesdupontdin fact04:36
neil__thanks guys, build-essential sorted it :)04:36
bronze_0_1what is it?04:36
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jacquesdupontdthey put a link between the bios teh mother board and the hdd04:36
jacquesdupontdand if you broke anything between them04:36
jacquesdupontdyou're computer doesnt start04:36
bronze_0_1jacquesdupontd: is there an official name for it that I can use to google?04:37
jacquesdupontdthere's some computers that cant even install open office04:37
neil__Damnit04:37
jacquesdupontdyou imagine04:37
jacquesdupontdi have french links04:37
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neil__Just configure'd, make'd, and make install'd libogg from the site it told me too....04:37
bronze_0_1thats fine04:37
neil__but mp3splt still wont compile04:37
jacquesdupontdgonna check how it's called in english04:37
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neil__./configure: line 21448: `XIPH_PATH_OGG(,{ { echo "$as_me:$LINENO: error: Ogg needed! Download the latest version of libogg at http://www.xiph.org" >&5'04:37
bronze_0_1jacquesdupontd: I'd appreciate it.04:37
jhoffman!nvidia04:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:37
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jacquesdupontdhttp://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/windows/mbr_1_disque_dur04:40
Arwenneil__, get libogg<something>-dev04:40
jacquesdupontdit's in french04:40
jacquesdupontdbut i think it's also called tatoo in english04:40
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Arwenneil__, wtf are you trying to configure? maybe I can help04:40
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jacquesdupontdthe computer you shouldn't buy are compaq hp04:40
jacquesdupontdgericom some times04:40
neil__I'm trying to install mp3splt-gtk , not in the repository04:40
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neil__but it fails and says libogg is required04:40
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jacquesdupontdand another one lemme check04:40
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neil__I've installed about 6 other packages fine from the repos.. its just this one04:41
jacquesdupontdPackard bell04:41
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Arwenneil__, that means you don't have the development headers, search for libogg and get the package that ends in -dev04:41
jacquesdupontdso the thing is to run buy you're computer now before it goes all like this04:41
neil__according to synaptic, libogg-dev is installed..04:41
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Flegmacan I have a question? :)04:41
neil__as is libogg004:42
gnomefreakFlegma: ask one if you wish04:42
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jacquesdupontdof course there is solution but really really weird and then you have big problems for compatibility04:42
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jacquesdupontdhopefully it seems my fujitsu is not tatooed04:42
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Arwenneil__, hmm, you might have to specify where to find libogg to the dev script04:42
Flegmahow can I change a font of boot informations??04:42
neil__Arwen: was thinking that, seems a bit obscure though04:42
FlegmaI mean, that screen when I turn off quiet splash04:42
neil__any idea where I should start to look?04:43
Flegmalike SuSe have...04:43
neil__its in /usr/lib according to the doc.04:43
jacquesdupontdFlegma: you mean in grub ?04:43
Flegmasmall font..04:43
gnomefreakFlegma: in /boot/grub/menu.lst04:43
jxnjacquesdupontd: sounds very scary to me. :-/04:43
Arwenneil__, hmm04:43
gnomefreakFlegma: but the font will not change you can disable splash though04:43
jxni own a hp compaq laptop04:43
neil__actually04:43
neil__!paste04:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:43
Arwenneil__, tell ya what, I'll try to compile it myself and I'll send you the instructions if I can figure it out04:43
gnomefreakFlegma: font is hardcoded in usplash code04:43
neil__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12752/04:44
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neil__Arwen: ^04:44
Flegmagnomefreak:  so I couldnt??? :(04:44
tuxicklo04:44
neil__just noticed that notice04:44
gnomefreakFlegma: nope04:44
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Flegma:( ok.thank you....04:44
tuxicki installed kubuntu for a try and i wonder how a kde based dist can come without konqueror04:44
Flegmatuxick: in kubuntu is konqueror..04:45
tuxickit even starts FF when i start konqueror from commandline04:45
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tuxickFlegma: not on this 6.10 i installed04:45
peakertuxick: you must have had an upgrade problem or so (happened to me). Install kubuntu-desktop04:45
Arwenneil__, hmm, check the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable04:45
Flegmatuxick: i have 6.10 with konq..04:45
neil__How do I do that? :D04:45
tuxickpeaker: i installed 6.1004:45
tuxickit's not even in the install software dialog04:45
peakertuxick: your kubuntu-desktop package for one reason or another is not installed. install it and it will put the entirety of kde in04:45
tuxickok04:45
Arwenneil__, echo $< VARIABLE>04:46
eagles0513875i have a broadcom 43xx internal wifi card is there a wiki on how i can get it installed04:46
tuxicki don't like the "some reason" bit :)04:46
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bronze_0_1jacquesdupontd: thanks!04:46
neil__Arwen: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?04:46
neil__returns nothing04:46
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jxneagles0513875: i,ve heard it'll work on feisty04:46
busfahrerExcuse me, how do I get konqueror to thumbnail movies?04:46
eagles0513875really out of box04:47
Arwenneil__, hmm... dunno, I don't compile much so I guess you're on your own04:47
neil__ok :)04:47
Arwenalso, libm3splt isn't in feisty :-\04:47
neil__thanks for the help anyhow04:47
neil__nope I'm trying to compile that too04:47
eagles0513875has anyone worked with clusters and openmosix04:47
neil__http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/gnu_build.php04:47
neil__following these04:47
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neil__im doing libmp3splt, and mp3splt-gtkl04:47
jxneagles0513875: yes, because of the new kernel. they,ve added drivers for broadcom cards.04:47
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eagles0513875finally04:48
eagles0513875lol04:48
TameLionHey everyone o/04:48
eagles0513875what bout better fglrx support04:48
eagles0513875or is that out of developers hands04:48
TameLionCan anyone suggest a system tray replacement for kde? Am using Beryl&AWN04:48
Arwenneil__, if you don't figure it out, you can do --disable-ogg04:49
tuxickwhere's that "kubuntu-desktop" in Adept?04:49
Arwenneil__, that might help04:49
jxneagles0513875: it's up to ATI/AMD.04:49
neil__oh really? thanks04:49
eagles0513875which i despise04:49
eagles0513875lol04:49
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neil__I don't even want ogg support :)04:49
eagles0513875anyone know how to get openmosix on kubuntu04:49
Arwenneil__, the wonders of reading the fscking manual, no?04:50
neil__Arwen: Does that go after ./configure, for libmp3splt?04:50
neil__haha :D04:50
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Arwenneil__, yeah, ./configure <options>04:50
neil__still gives me the same error04:50
neil__damn you ogg, !04:50
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Arwenneil__, ah well :-\04:52
peakertuxick: its supposed to be there - or your sources.list is broken (which could also explain why stuff is missing)04:52
Arwenwhat's this package do that you can't live without?04:52
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tuxickpeaker: i just inserted CD and clicked ok several times04:54
peakertuxick: maybe your downloads failed then, if you updated from the web04:54
peakertuxick: did you?04:54
tuxickwell yes, i installed from CD04:54
tuxickbut in that case i should have got some warning/errormessage no?04:54
peakertuxick: Error reporting does not always work very well, in any OS :)04:55
tuxickpeaker: hehe really??04:55
peakerI know my downloads here failed in adept, and I got no report, instead, it borked some of my packages04:55
peakerand then apt-get -f install/dist-upgrade a few times fixed it04:55
tuxickanyway, i don't see any "kubuntu" in sources.list, is that normal?04:55
peakertuxick: not in sources.list04:55
tuxickand why didn't adept show kubuntu-desktop?04:56
tuxickok04:56
peakertuxick: if you apt-get update, and your sources.list is complete, then your list of available packages should include a package called "kubuntu-desktop"04:56
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tuxickyes, aptitude had no problem installing it04:56
tuxickfinding it anyway04:56
peakerthe update of package list (done when clicking update in adept, or "apt-get update" in cli) updates according to the listing in /etc/apt/sources.list04:56
eagles0513875is feisty worth getting now or waiting04:56
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jxneagles0513875: feisty is still beta... i'll wait until the final release. :-)04:57
eagles0513875ya but if i can get my internal wifi card to work lol04:57
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jxndo what you want, i just dislike unstable software04:58
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jxn!feisty04:59
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)04:59
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jayany one know where i can get some icons for cairo-dock? Svg icons?04:59
jxndamn04:59
jxnjay: deviantart.com04:59
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jayhmmm.. that means i'll probably have to do some resizin then right?05:01
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jxnprobably05:02
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aaroncampbellI am having a strange problem.  Firefox can access ubuntuforums.org, but not Google.com.  However, konqueror can access both05:07
aaroncampbellIt acts like the site doesn't exist....it tries for a while, and goes to "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.google.com."05:07
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SolidSource!ipod05:08
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod05:08
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Yorokobiaaroncampbell, open a terminal and type 'host google.com' if you don't get anything then its a DNS problem. Other than that, I'd point to a proxy05:09
Yorokobieither a global proxy in the Kubuntu network settings or in FF itself05:09
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Yorokobi!rockbox05:11
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!05:11
SolidSourcealright anyone know how to get ipod nano working in amarok? its not detecting it05:12
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YorokobiSolidSource, with my iPod (Gen 4) I just plug it into the USB port, let auto-mount/open konqueror, then open amarok and add the files directly from /media/ipod (or /media/sd?) rather than have amarok try to manage the ipod itself05:14
_JuJuBee_If I wish to add a second NIC to a ubuntu box, do I need to recompile or reinstall or something? or just insert it and it will work?05:16
eagles0513875what version of kde does kubuntu use05:16
SolidSourceYorokobi: nothing is even recognizing it though05:16
peaker_JuJuBee_: it should just work05:16
_JuJuBee_Thanks.05:16
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SolidSourceeagles0513875: depends on which version of kubuntu you are using05:17
_JuJuBee_I will try it then.05:17
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peaker_JuJuBee_: but you will need to configure its settings05:17
_JuJuBee_Yep...05:17
peaker_JuJuBee_: where it gets its address from/etc05:17
Yorokobi_JuJuBee_, you may need to modify /etc/network/interfaces to enable it05:17
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YorokobiSolidSource, not sure what to tell you. Do you have the ipod package installed?05:18
SolidSourceYorokobi: which one?05:19
eagles05138756/1005:19
eagles0513875im just going to do a fresh install05:19
eagles0513875too much of a headache to do an upgrade05:19
YorokobiSolidSource, just ipod05:19
SolidSourceeagles0513875: ?05:19
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YorokobiYou could try ipodslave as well05:19
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eagles0513875download and reinstall should i just get the 32bit version or is support for 64bit any good05:20
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SolidSourceeagles0513875: 64bit takes a lot of initial tweaking05:20
eagles0513875what way05:21
SolidSourceeagles0513875: but what is the problem you are having?05:21
eagles0513875just adding repositories to just do a full upgrade with adept05:21
eagles0513875it keeps break adept05:21
SolidSourceeagles0513875: one...don't use adept05:22
eagles0513875i know but then how am i goign to add repositories05:22
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Yorokobieagles0513875, I say this as an old-school Debian user: don't use adept. I still use dselect and will occasionally use synaptic05:22
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SolidSourceeagles0513875: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"05:22
eagles0513875most of time i use cli command sudo apt-get install name of pkg05:23
eagles0513875ok solid what r the repositories i should add05:23
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SolidSource!source-o-matic > eagles051387505:23
eagles0513875im getting them from the wiki05:23
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eagles0513875on the kubuntu webpg05:23
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SolidSourceeagles0513875: don't...just use source-o-matic05:24
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eagles0513875ok then what do i do with em copy thim in to main repository list05:24
SolidSourceyep....just copy right over them all05:25
eagles0513875ok05:25
SolidSourceYorokobi: nope...no luck, still not mounting it05:25
YorokobiSolidSource, odd. Does your syslog show anything about detecting the device?05:26
CarinArranyone running beryl on feisty around here?05:26
eagles0513875woot ty solid05:26
Yorokobi<-- Beryl w/edgy05:26
SolidSourceYorokobi: thats the problem, its not detecting it05:27
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CarinArrYorokobi: yeah so was i.. and it worked fine.. actually it still works fine but i don't seem to have the option to move windows between viewports when right clicking the titlebar05:27
Yorokobihmmmm ... SolidSource plug it in the try 'ipod --insert' at the command line05:27
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tuxickwouldn't it make sense for an installer to run dist-upgrade?05:27
tuxickdistupgrade on 6.10 did quite a bit of work05:28
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SolidSourceYorokobi: notta05:29
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YorokobiSolidSource, I'm out of ideas ...05:29
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YorokobiHave you checked the Ubuntu wiki and/or forums yet?05:30
eagles0513875woot upgradin distro05:30
eagles0513875hopefully my internal wifi will work out of box05:31
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ackbahrHello! knetworkmanager recently stopped loading spontaneously when KDE starts, but I'd like to make that hapen again.... Where's that file with the list of startup services? Thanks!05:32
Yorokobiackbahr, one way: start knetwork-manager, then log out of X and log back in. If KDE is set to save your session it should start up with KDE05:32
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EnfiladeHello05:33
Yorokobior add a symbolic link to knetwork-manager in your ~/.kde/Autostart directory05:33
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ackbahrYorokobi: I'll try your second suggestion (I observed what you mentionned first, but it wasn't a stable result)05:34
EnfiladeBrand new kubuntu user here :)05:34
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mart81is it known that amarok is not working in feisty?05:35
qsuwelcome Enfilade welcome to the club05:35
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jhutchinsmart81: Check w/ #ubuntu+105:35
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NSCAD_Nathanmart81 - Amarok works fine for me in feisty... on my home box05:35
mart81k :)05:35
SolidSourcemart81: amarok works fine on my feisty machine05:36
NSCAD_Nathansound is fecked here at worked tho :/05:36
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ackbahrYorokobi: I'm rather new to linking.... How do I locate the target?05:38
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Yorokobi'find / -name knetwork-manager' or 'locate knetwork-manager'05:39
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Yorokobiyou may want to add ' | grep bin' to the end of those05:39
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ackbahrand if the second solution gives me a dozen hits, which is the executable?05:40
ackbahrYorokobi: Ah, got it05:40
ackbahrThank you!05:40
Yorokobino prob05:40
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aaroncampbellhow can I see what nameservers I'm using?05:44
SolidSourceYorokobi: well...I guess whatever gen of ipod I have hasn't been tested...and itunes 4.9 doesn't even support05:45
Yorokobicat /etc/resolv.conf is one way05:45
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YorokobiSolidSource, I'll have to borrow my wife's nano and test it out05:45
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aaroncampbellhow can I change them?  I think one is invalid (it says my DSL router is one...and it isn't)...and I think it's affecting firefox (more than other programs)05:46
SolidSourceYorokobi: mine is brand new...just got it today05:46
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YorokobiMy wife got hers about a month ago so its probably the same gen05:47
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ingo_Hi, I've got this xine problem, tried googling, forums, etc. but no joy. Here is the error message:  xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL05:48
ingo_there is a bug report, but ancient. Since then it appears to have been sorted, but not in my 6.10?05:49
Yorokobiingo_, do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?05:49
ingo_yes05:49
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ackbahrgoodbye!05:50
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Yorokobiwhat are you trying to play, ingo_ ?05:51
ingo_and libxine1 (apart from dgb and libxinerama1-dbg)05:51
busfahrerExcuse me, how do I get konqueror to display movie thumbnails?05:51
ingo_DVTB05:52
ingo_or dvbt05:52
ingo_:)05:52
YorokobiI'm not familiar with dvbt ... have you tried vlc ?05:54
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ingo_no kaffeine05:54
ingo_supposed to work out of the box05:54
Yorokobikaffeine has never worked for me05:54
ingo_but does it matter which one I use? apparently a xine fault05:54
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Blu3what is the recommended way to install win32 codecs in kubuntu?05:55
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ingo_busfahrer, select settings, configure konqueror05:56
SolidSourceBlu3: if you are using 32bit version...its in repos05:56
Blu3pkg name?05:56
SolidSourcew32codecs05:56
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ingo_then previews & Meta-Data05:56
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Blu3hmm, adept isn't finding it05:56
ubuntuhello05:56
YorokobiBlu3, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse05:57
SolidSourceBlu3: you don't have the full updated repos then05:57
ingo_Blu3, got universe und multiverse_05:57
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ingo_ah, ok...05:57
Blu3i thought i had, i'll double check05:57
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frojndwhat is a good ftp program?05:58
ingo_konqueror05:58
frojndor known05:58
SolidSourceBlu3: if that doesn't work05:58
SolidSource!source-o-matic > Blu305:58
frojndserver, I need to setup my onw ftp server..05:58
ubuntuyes05:58
Blu3ok05:58
busfahreringo_: Yeah, but I can't find the corresponding setting...05:58
Blu3thanks05:58
eagles0513875anybody know much bout openmosix and adding the kernel to the list in grub and it working properly05:58
eagles0513875!openmosix05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openmosix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
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Yorokobieagles0513875, find # kopt in /boot/grub/menu.lst and add extra kernel options there (leave the #)06:00
Yorokobieg: # kopt=selinux=106:00
Yorokobito enable SELinux (partially)06:00
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ingo_busfahrer, you trying to get it to play the movie or just show a picture?06:00
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frojnddoes anyone know for any good programs that support ftp server06:02
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busfahreringo_: I just want it to show a thumbnail _for_ a movie instead of showing the generic "movie" symbol06:02
Yorokobifrojnd, openssh (ftp via SSH) :)06:02
Blu3https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse really only talks about what authors should do for the programs, it's not really an end-user guide06:02
frojndYorokobi :)06:02
frojndYorokobi: I need for that kind of use, that no ssh needed06:03
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YorokobiBlu3, I guess I should read those wiki pages before I dish them out :)06:03
Blu3:D06:03
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ingo_busfahrer, if you go to where i said before, right hand window, scroll down to local protocols06:03
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ingo_click on "file"06:03
CarinArrGRRRRRRRRRRRRR06:03
SolidSourceBlu3: just use the source-o-matic06:03
ingo_now hold mouse button over icon and it will come up a with preview06:03
Blu3yup, filling it out now06:03
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ingo_alright, have fun06:05
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SolidSourceYorokobi: ok...ipod nano don't work with linux yet...though there appears to be several projects to get them to06:06
ubuntuhello06:06
ubuntuplease06:06
YorokobiSolidSource, well, there you are, then.06:07
Tm_Tubuntu: please what?06:07
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YorokobiThank you Apple, for making your hardware so different all the time06:07
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SolidSourceYorokobi: yeah, but those projects aren't complete yet06:08
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ubuntuexcuse me, Tm T06:09
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ubuntui have problems, with instalation06:09
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Tm_Tubuntu: well, we can't help if you don't tell exactly what is the problem06:10
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ubuntuspecifically with my monitor06:11
ubunturesolution06:11
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ubuntuhelp me06:12
Yorokobiubuntu, resolution in X or during boot-up?06:13
YorokobiCRT? LCD? Laptop LCD?06:13
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SolidSourceLOL06:13
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Yorokobiway off topic: anyone here familiar with BEA's Weblogic 8.1 server ?06:14
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BluesKajYorokobi, sounds like a commercial application device06:17
YorokobiOh, it is. Its a royal pain in the arse06:17
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Ultimah06:17
Ultimahi06:17
UltimaI Need help partitioning06:17
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Ultimais anyone there?06:18
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ubuntuis CRT06:19
neil__Whats wrong with it ubuntu?06:19
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neil__give us as many details as you can06:19
UltimaI Get told that THis software has detected that the disk has at least 1 bad sector on QParted when resizing06:19
UltimaSInce I Need to change the freespace06:19
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UltimaSince i'm using a 130gb harddrive and the freespace partion is only 7mb06:20
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UltimaAnd when I try and mkae a extended partion I get a freeze06:20
ubuntuI advise to you that you use06:20
Ultima?06:21
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ubuntuHiren,s boot06:21
UltimaHow do you?06:21
UltimaI want to dualboot06:21
UltimaSince my brother uses my computer sometimes.06:21
YorokobiSo, ubuntu, what exactly is this resolution problem of yours?06:21
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YorokobiUltima, your current OS is using all of the HDD space. Partition Magic may be what you need. Especially if your current partitions are NTFS.06:22
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UltimaI can't use iyt06:22
Blu3arggg.  ok.  granted i'm new to kubuntu, but i'm a longtime linux person this is frustrating.  i've used the source generator with all options, used other people's sources, apt says w32codecs is referred to by another package but is not available, missing/obsolete/only avail from another source06:22
UltimaIts only a trial06:22
UltimaAnd I don't want to pay for a one off thing06:22
UltimaYou know what I mean?06:23
Blu3what repos. line do i need to fetch w32codecs?06:23
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ubuntuI want 1024x76806:23
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UltimaOh and i'm using the new beta :)06:23
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EnfiladeDamn linux distros have gotten user friendly since i last ran it06:24
YorokobiBlu3, the only w32codec dependency is libc6 which should already be installed06:24
UltimaAgreed,its because no one wants to use Windows anymore.06:24
Blu3i have libc606:24
UltimaBrb06:24
ubuntubut this with 800x60006:24
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Blu3that's kinda required for nearly everything06:24
EnfiladeI'm incredibly impressed with how easy it was to install kubuntu is06:24
ubuntu:-(06:24
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YorokobiUbuntu, open the System Settings, click on Monitor, click on the Administrator Mode button, and change the res to 1024x76806:25
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EnfiladeI first started using linux with redhat 6.0 and mostly ran debian i'm reasonably accomplished, but its still amazing to see how easy this is to install06:25
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UltimaIs there a free alternative to partion magic?06:26
UltimaPartition*06:26
ubuntu1024x768 does not exist the option06:26
rayluUltima: qtparted06:26
raylucould someone help me get beryl running on a nvidia card?06:26
UltimaI tried it06:27
UltimaIt says my windows has a bad sector06:27
UltimaAnd i only have 7mb freespace06:27
rayluthe fix the bad sector :D try ntfsfix06:27
Ultimaso I Load windows?06:27
rayluno06:27
UltimaOK06:27
rayluntfsfix in linux06:27
raylu(windows will do the actual fixin)06:27
UltimaWhere?06:27
hordesomething I don't understand: when I open my /media/cdrom0 (which has a Data DVD in it) in konqueror it says media is empty.  However if I open the /media/cdrom link (linked to /media/cdrom0) the files show up.  'ls' on cdrom and cdrom0 in bash lists the files normally.  Can anyone explain?06:27
rayluin a console...where else?06:27
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rayluhorde: from what I understand, cdrom0 is softlinked to cdro06:28
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Ultimahelp06:28
UltimaIt asks what partition06:28
ubuntuit depends06:28
YorokobiBlu3, are you using the seveas repo?06:28
Blu3i just added those two lines to my sources list and am trying again06:29
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YorokobiThat's what I use06:29
horderaylu: uh huh.  If cdrom0 is -s linked to cdro but cdrom is -s linked to cdrom0 thy is there a difference?06:29
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hordethy = why06:29
UltimaI get a permission denied06:29
UltimaVolume is corrupt06:29
ubuntuas root?06:29
hakancenarkadalar ubuntuya skypeyi nasl kurabilirim yardmc olurmusun06:29
Blu3as edgy-seveas or feisty-seveas?06:29
UltimaCan I run chkdsk on linux?06:30
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ubuntufsck06:30
firecrotchUltima: It's called fsck06:30
Ryiel!iso06:30
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:30
YorokobiBlu3, are you using edgy or feisty?06:30
ubuntufsck --help06:30
Ultimauh?06:31
Blu3feisty, herd 4 cd06:31
UltimaI now get nothing06:31
UltimaIt comes up with fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)06:31
YorokobiUltima, are you trying to mount a video DVD or data DVD?06:31
Ultimano06:31
UltimaI'm trying to fix my partition06:31
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UltimaWIth chkdsk06:31
Yorokobidoh, got my conversations mixe06:31
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Yorokobinevermind. Ultima06:32
ubuntuultima, you have installed ubuntu? or06:32
Ultimanot yet06:32
UltimaMy partition has a bad sector06:32
Ultimaand windows is hogging all the space06:32
UltimaI Only got 7mb06:33
Ultimapartition space06:33
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ubuntufor that reason I advise to you that you use Hiren's boot06:33
ubuntuis very good06:33
UltimaI don't have really any CD's left06:34
mart81Ultima: i hear bad things about partitioning a very full disk, watch out when you do that...06:34
UltimaIts not full06:34
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UltimaIts got 60gb space left06:34
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Ultimathough windows is hogging all the space06:34
mart81ow, hehe06:34
Ultimasda-1 is only 7mb06:34
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ubuntuyou can formatear it06:35
Blu3ah well, lunchtime, i'll figure it out later06:35
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qbert_im having a problem with adept, its not finding any packages06:35
YorokobiUltima, you're going to have to find some way to resize the NTFS partition (or reinstall Windows on a smaller partition)06:35
UltimaPartiton magic does it06:36
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UltimaAnd I only have a license for windows, I don't have the disc :(06:36
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ins-dragonclawlol06:36
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UltimaWhen I bought my comp I only got Windows XP pre instaled06:36
ins-dragonclawI wonder if googling "Legal free windows download" would actually give results...06:36
ubuntuyou proved with debian06:36
ubuntuor Knoppix06:37
UltimaWell I could use TinyXP06:37
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UltimaSince its legal if you have a license06:37
Ultimato use Windows XP06:37
hordeUltima: you could try Usenet, Bittorrent, Ed2K06:37
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UltimaCouldn't Kubuntu install in the freespace?06:38
qbertwhat would be a reasoin for adept not finding packages ?06:38
Ultimaand not affect windows06:38
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ubuntunot06:38
YorokobiUltima, you'll need at least 2GB for (K)Ubuntu06:38
ins-dragonclaw!adept crash fix06:38
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:38
rayluYorokobi: I think he means the freespace of his NTFS partition06:38
rayluto which the answer is no06:38
ubuntumin06:38
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Yorokobiah, definitely no06:38
UltimaDamn06:39
UltimaCan I resize my free partiton06:39
UltimaCan't Magic Partiton do it?06:39
fuzzy_logichellp06:39
fuzzy_logichello06:39
fuzzy_logici just have a little question06:39
crookshanksthere's a version mismatch in nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source for i386 in every repository i've looked in so far, even though packages.ubuntu.com says that there isn't06:39
YorokobiYes, PQMagic can do it06:40
crookshankskinda frustrating, X won't run with a mismatch06:40
firecrotch!ask | fuzzy_logic06:40
ubotufuzzy_logic: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:40
Tm_Tcrookshanks: what version?06:40
fuzzy_logicubotu: sorry06:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:40
firecrotch!bot06:40
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:40
Tm_T:p06:40
Tm_Tfuzzy_logic: welcome aboard! (:06:40
crookshanksTm_T: i'm looking for 1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.2, but only 1.0.8774 exists for nvidia-kernel-source06:40
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Tm_Tcrookshanks: and release is...06:41
fuzzy_logicwill kubuntu 7.04 going to be released at the same time as ubuntu 7.04?06:41
Tm_Tfuzzy_logic: sure06:41
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Tm_Tor atleast should06:41
crookshanksTm_T: according to the ubuntu package list, the release is 1.0.877606:41
Tm_Tcrookshanks: I mean what release of Kubuntu06:41
crookshanksTm_T: oh, edgy06:41
fuzzy_logicim planning to install the kubuntu package on my current ubuntu install06:42
fuzzy_logicwill it work as stable as gnome?06:42
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crookshanksTm_T: it seems to be available for download from the website, but it's not in my repository... i'll just download it and install it manually i guess06:43
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Tm_Tcrookshanks: err, do "apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-generic"06:43
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Tm_Tin terminal that is06:43
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Tm_Tcrookshanks: and tell the "installed: " line06:43
edemilsondpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.06:44
crookshanksTm_T: 2.6.17.1106:44
edemilsonalguem pode me ajudar a resolver este problema06:44
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fuzzy_logicanyone?? help plz?06:44
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Tm_Tcrookshanks: and that's your kernel version too?06:44
crookshanksTm_T: yes06:45
crookshanksTm_T: the weird thing is that my nvidia-glx is 1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.206:45
Tm_Tcrookshanks: do the same to nvidia-glx package06:45
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, KDE has been very stable for me. I've not used Gnome in a long time so I cannot offer a comparison06:45
ubuntuedmilson06:45
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Tm_Tcrookshanks: hmm I wonder where the problem is06:45
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fuzzy_logicyorokobi: thanks ill give it a try06:46
ubuntuyou have synaptic open06:46
crookshanksTm_T: i've looked at some of the Packages.gz from mirrors, and they don't even have 1.0.8776 for nvidia-kernel-source06:46
edemilsonok06:46
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crookshanksTm_T: but if I do a package search on the website, it says it's there06:47
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Tm_Tcrookshanks: nvidia-kernel-source, err, I don't have that installed, so I guess it's not needed ;)06:48
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crookshanksTm_T: it's needed to build the kernel module I thought06:48
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spawn57crookshanks: isn't the nvidia kernel module in linux-restricted-modules?06:48
Tm_Tit is06:48
crookshankshmm06:48
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spawn57pretty sure I used that to get the nvidia binary driver06:49
crookshanksspawn57: I did a dpkg -L, I see a lot of nv-* rather than nvidia*06:50
Tm_Tcrookshanks: linux-restricted-modules does contain nvidia drivers06:50
Tm_Tor atleast should06:50
spawn57it does06:51
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crookshanksi see "/lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.17-11-generic/nvidia/nvidia.mod.o", is that it?06:51
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spawn57lemme check06:51
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spawn57I think it's nvidia.ko06:53
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crookshankswhere as building the module with nvidia-kernel-source creates "/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/nvidia/nvidia.ko"06:53
zulikcze06:54
crookshankslinux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic doesn't have any nvidia.ko06:54
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spawn57i got nvidia-kernel-common06:55
spawn57did you enable the restircted respositories?06:56
dwidmannnvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx should have them right?06:56
crookshanksspawn57: yes06:56
spawn57ah arlight06:56
crookshanksdwidmann: i just did a search for nvidia.ko using the file searcher on the website, no package has it06:57
crookshanksunless it's called something else06:57
YorokobiI have nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-kernel-source, and nvidia-glx installed06:57
crookshanksYorokobi: what version of nvidia-kernel-source?06:57
Yorokobi1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.206:57
crookshanksdid you have to download it manually?06:57
Yorokobinope,06:57
spawn57me neither06:57
dwidmannperhaps it is something that is compiled during the installation ...06:57
crookshankswtf... something's screwy06:57
eagles0513875?06:58
crookshankswhat mirror are you guys using?06:58
dwidmannus06:58
spawn57nvidia-kernel-common doesn't show any .ko either06:58
spawn57hong kong and japan here..06:58
YorokobiI didn't find any nvidia.ko on my system06:58
dwidmannthere's a rather strong possibility that it's one of the things made during the installation.06:59
YorokobiI am using the generic repo and my university's mirror06:59
dwidmanndustin@terra:~$ locate nvidia.ko06:59
dwidmann/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko06:59
dwidmann/usr/share/envy/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9631-pkg2/usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko06:59
dwidmann/usr/share/envy/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9631-pkg2/usr/src/nv/.nvidia.ko.cmd06:59
crookshanksI'm pretty sure that nvidia.ko comes from building nvidia-kernel-source06:59
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crookshanksit's just that in my repositories the version of nvidia-kernel-source i need doesn't seem to exist07:00
dwidmannI think it's only made when you build the source of the driver yourself, from the .run package provided on the nvidia website07:00
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kozzhmm, I might have missed something but the nvidia kernel module is in linux-restricted-modules07:00
dwidmann(it has to compile something rather using your kernel headers during the installation afterall)07:00
zulikwhere I found repositories for kubuntu 6.06 LTS07:00
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crookshankswell, I just downloaded it manually07:04
Jucato!away > compilerwriter_a07:04
crookshankshopefully it'll build07:04
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aaroncampbellDoes anyone know if any of the less expensive RAID cards have good (K)ubuntu support?  Or do you basically need to get a card with full hardware RAID (like 3Ware)07:04
DaveDormwheeee07:04
DaveDormhowdy peeps07:04
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DaveDormI have forgotten how to force dpkg to take a package without dependencies07:05
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aaroncampbellI need RAID5 for probably 5-6 500G disks07:05
DaveDormI THOUGHT it was   dpkg --install <file> -force-all07:05
DaveDormbut no joy07:05
DaveDormany ideas??07:05
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crookshanksthanks for your help guys07:05
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Yorokobitry dpkg -i --force-all <package>07:05
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DaveDormthat may have done it07:06
DaveDormthanks, Yorokobi07:07
Yorokobinp, DaveDorm07:07
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ludodu64salut!07:09
ludodu64je voudrais configurer ma conexion internet07:09
ludodu64ya pas moyen?07:09
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Yorokobiludodu64, try #kubuntu-fr07:11
YorokobiI do not know if anyone here speaks French07:11
Tm_Tand if does, still english only ;)07:12
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jhutchinsaaroncampbell: You do NOT want software RAID for that, you need a dedicted adaptor.07:19
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jhutchinsaaroncampbell: Preferably with a good sized cache.07:20
vain!kill_me07:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kill_me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:20
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rayluvain: , what are you trying?07:20
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vainerm07:21
vaini am new arround here07:21
vainand i don't know any amusing server07:21
vainso i'm trying to have fun :)07:21
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rayluhaha, ok07:23
r00t_i intstalled the server version of ubuntu then decided i wanted a kde desktop,so i used aptitude to install kubuntu but im missing all the system utilites and lots of stuff on my menu,what should i do?07:23
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equipo17colombiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa07:24
equipo17what's up07:24
Yorokobir00t_, how much extra stuff do you want?07:24
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equipo17go to googleee+07:24
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aaroncampbellthanks jhutchins ...do you know if there are any alternatives to 3ware?07:24
vaingoogle sUXXX big time :)07:24
YorokobiYou could install the KDE meta-packages and get more than you need or use synaptic (or dselect) to pick and choose07:24
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vainbut i still use it.yes.07:24
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equipo1707:25
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r00t_Yorokobi: just things like konversation adapt the basic stuff htat comes with kubuntus not there,i dont even have anything really on my system menu07:25
r00t_Yorokobi: i had to apt-get konversation07:25
Tm_Tvain: equipo17: if you like to play around, take separate channel ;)07:25
equipo17hey07:25
Tm_Tthis is support channel thanks07:26
equipo17whats up07:26
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Yorokobir00t_, I'd start with apt-get install kde-core07:26
r00t_equipo17:  #ubuntu-offtopic #kubuntu-offtopic ##offtopic07:26
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r00t_Yorokobi: thanks07:26
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equipo17speak spanish please07:27
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equipo17bryan lara07:27
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vainTM-T:redirect me to a nice channel plz . :D07:28
r00t_anyone know the name for the mac like bar that where the icons zoom out/in when you run the mouse over them?not the mac bar you can put on from the configure desktop menu07:28
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Tm_Tvain: just join yourself07:28
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Yorokobir00t_, I think that requires Xgl and Beryl/compiz07:28
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aaroncampbellOk, I've been trying and trying to get the nVidia drivers working on my system.  It seems that maybe they don't support my card (8800GTS).  Until they do, is there any *other* way to get dual Widescreen (1680x1050) monitors working?07:29
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vainTm_T:i said i'm new arround here,and i don't know any good one.07:30
vaini thought u had something for me.07:30
r00t_!es | equipo17:07:30
ubotuequipo17:: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:30
Tm_Tvain: not really07:30
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r00t_vain, #kubuntu-offtopic ask there07:30
vainokie07:30
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alexihi people, im having a pmount issue. whenever i plug in a usb device it shows it in the file manager, but when i try and open the mount point i get: could not execute pmount07:31
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r00t_how do i undo all proposed changes in aptitude?07:32
vainthx r00t07:32
alexiis there a certain group for using pmount??07:32
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r00t_vain: if you start to type someones name in you can then pres tab,a little mark comes after it then when the user gets your message itll be red that way he sees it easyer,same thing with commands at the command line,welll they dont turn red but you get what i mean07:33
alexior would using gnome stop my usb devices from being mounted right?07:33
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alexi!pmount07:34
ubotupmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB07:34
alexidefine normal user...07:35
alexi:P07:35
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piotercze07:36
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sachawow07:36
alexianyone know about pmount?07:36
pioterjest tu jakis polak07:36
sachaia ne polak07:36
sachaale russku znaju07:36
jhutchins!pl | pioter07:37
sachaalexi, es zapytannia?07:37
ubotupioter: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:37
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alexinop07:37
pioterpomozesz mi07:37
r00t_!pl | sacha07:37
ubotusacha: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:37
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sachaubotu: ne nuzdajus07:37
ubotune: Nice Editor, an easy-to-use and powerful editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.42-1 (edgy), package size 572 kB, installed size 1376 kB07:37
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pioterkto mi pomoze07:38
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sachaenglish chanal here?07:38
peakeramarok's collection folders dialog only shows /media and /home07:38
peakerHow to add other places?07:38
Jucato!hidden | peaker07:39
ubotupeaker: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)07:39
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jhutchinspeaker: Look in the amarok help files.07:39
Jucatosacha: yes. English only07:39
peakerah. thanks07:39
alexianyone know about pmount?07:39
Jucatojhutchins: no. it's something Kubuntu did07:39
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alexii cant access my usb devices07:39
jhutchinsalexi: never heard of it.07:39
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r00t_how do i undo all proposed changes in aptitude?07:40
pioterkto mipomoze07:40
alexiits whats used now so usb stuff goes automatically into /media07:40
Jucato!pl | pioter07:40
ubotupioter: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:40
sachapioter: /join #ubuntu-ru07:40
pioterale na stronie07:40
BluesKajI remember p-mount cartridges for turntables :)07:40
alexii lost all my groups the other wee07:40
alexik07:40
alexii wonder if thats why i cant auto mount usb stuff07:41
zulikpioter:  what up?07:41
alexihaha bash complete just killed gnome-terminal :P07:41
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jhutchinsJucato: Ok, I just figured out what you meant about Amarok and the hidden file tree.07:43
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jhutchinsalexi: What you mean you "lost all your groups"?07:44
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r00t_how do i undo all proposed changes in aptitude?07:44
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nico_just quit aptitude?07:44
jhutchinsr00t_: Just close it without applying them.07:45
nico_oh and hello btw :D07:45
alexii accidentally deleted all the groups my user was in.07:45
fr0nkcan somebody please help me either to get my virtualpc vm network support running or my charset fixed in order to use centericq properly? :D07:45
jhutchinsalexi: That could affect it.07:45
alexijhutchins: i just wondered if there might be a special group for auto mounting usb devices07:45
Yorokobifr0nk, the answer is gaim :)07:45
nico_hm im not sure about gaim07:45
nico_to instable for me07:46
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jhutchinsalexi: I appear to be in: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin07:46
r00t_jhutchins: i still have several broken packages that shouldent be there07:46
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GentixI like to share a folder to a apple osx machine, how do I do this?? I've already installed samba07:46
alexiah ty jhutchins i'll try adding myself to plugdev!07:46
jhutchinsalexi: plugdev looks very likely.07:46
nico_tried to fix all broken packages in the edit menu of aptitude?07:46
jhutchinsr00t_: I would use apt-get myself.07:47
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nico_oh aptitude07:47
nico_wrong program :p07:47
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fr0nkYorokobi: no :D i want centericq, or anyway my charset fixed07:47
fr0nk&auml; for example does not work, too07:47
jhutchinsr00t_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto07:47
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jhutchinsfr0nk: There is a #vmware channel.07:48
nico_does anyone know how to use the 3ddesktop program07:48
nico_?07:48
jhutchins!beryl | nico_07:48
ubotunico_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:48
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aaroncampbellOk, I've been trying and trying to get the nVidia drivers working on my system.  It seems that maybe they don't support my card (8800GTS).  Until they do, is there any *other* way to get dual Widescreen (1680x1050) monitors working?07:49
c1|freakynico_: u need to start it and bind it to some keystroke afaik07:49
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nico_i installed a 3ddesktop package with synaptic07:49
c1|freakynico_: search google i can't remember07:49
nico_ok07:49
kugilluHi07:49
c1|freakyits for a 3d view when switching between desktops07:49
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nico_even better then vista then, another proof ubuntu is better then windows07:50
aaroncampbell!mp307:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:50
nico_i just installed VLC, and made it my default mp3 program, works for me07:51
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nico_strange, 3ddesktop is a gnome package?07:52
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nico_i think i'm going to check the ubuntu-effects channel07:53
nico_they must know07:53
franciscoquiero saber como programar un descodificador metronic07:53
nico_i dont understand that07:54
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inteliwasp!beryl08:03
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:03
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inteliwaspis there a guide for beryl on 6.06?08:04
Yorokobiinteliwasp, check beryl-project.org08:04
K`zanIs there some way to get what I have here in edgy in some form I could bring feisty to the same point when I install that?08:04
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YorokobiK`zan, this worked for me: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php08:06
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Yorokobimore precisely: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade08:06
K`zanYorokobi: Thanks, checking now08:06
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K`zanYorokobi: That too :) Thanks08:06
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kothzon 7.04, do i need to get rid of ubuntu-desktop in order to install kubuntu-desktop?08:07
fuzzy_logickothz: no08:07
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Ionutz!wiev ntfs partitions08:09
Ionutzhow to enter in ntfs partitions08:10
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Ionutzhey please heplme08:11
Ionutzntsf08:11
Ionutz!NTFS08:11
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:11
Ionutz!ntfs-3g08:13
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)08:13
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fr0nk!ntfs-3g08:14
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)08:14
snikkersomeone can tell me the release date of kubuntu 7.04?08:14
fr0nksorry, no idea08:14
fr0nkcan someone please help me set up file sharing for windows machines?08:14
fr0nkeverything in the dialogue is disabled and since i'm using a german ui i can't read the message above because it's trunticated08:15
fr0nk\o/08:15
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jhutchinsAnybody here with a fresh install?08:19
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jhutchinsHow much space did it use?08:20
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jlola08:21
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AMSmith42OK, so I tried to use Adept Installer to install Java. But since it has a license agreement in the shell, I botched it. Now I can't open Adept Installer because "another process" is using the package system. What process might I look for and try to kill?08:22
Ionutz!wine08:22
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:22
Ionutz!streaming08:22
goorhtmhhh I know a command for apt-get08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
goorhtI think you might find how by hiting an installation into your shell08:23
Ionutzgoorhtt please tel me08:23
BluesKajlater gents ... beer to drink and some jammin' to do08:23
goorhtmhhhh08:23
Ionutztell me comand08:23
goorhtyou are on Kubuntu??08:23
goorhtor ubuntu??08:23
Ionutzyes08:23
goorhtk08:23
Ionutzfor 1st time08:23
Ionutz:)08:23
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goorht^^08:23
goorhttry08:24
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goorhtsudo aptitude install <name of a package>08:24
goorhtmhhh just wait08:24
goorhtI m gonna check the command line08:24
Ionutzok08:24
Ionutzwait....08:24
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goorhtyep I got it08:25
goorhttry in the shell : sudo aptitude -f08:25
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SanneAMSmith42: here's something your problem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%29#head-12e8cdb525c86c6678c96be49c2014645615df9e08:25
AMSmith42Thank you.08:26
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Ionutzand what it is08:26
Ionutz?08:26
SanneAMSmith42: you're welcome08:26
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goorhtnow you should be on a special page08:26
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Ionutzyes i see it08:27
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Ionutzbut mebe i use now adeptmanager and i dont use shell08:27
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goorhtmhhh08:27
goorhtdon't think so08:27
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goorhtusing the shell is better you get more infos on problems08:28
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Ionutzbut i can instal is from adept manager08:28
Ionutz?08:28
goorhtyeah try it08:28
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Ionutzselect the pakage and press update ?08:28
Ionutzthis is all?08:29
goorhtnormalle using -f should have fixed the problem08:29
goorhtyep08:29
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AMSmith42My problem isn't with installing Java. It is with adept installer (or the package system) being hung up. I've rebooted to no avail.08:29
goorhttry installing a package08:29
HrontoreOkay i have a problem with atp08:29
Hrontoreapt08:29
goorhtwhat's it??08:30
leme-twraany greek here08:30
Hrontorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12777/08:30
goorhtwhat is that??08:30
Ionutzand where i can see that i instaled from admanager08:30
Ionutz?08:30
HrontoreI added a repository and now it wont onpen08:30
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Ionutzsorry i confuzed08:30
Ionutzand where i can see that i instaled from admanager08:30
Ionutzand where i can see that i instaled from admanager?08:31
goorht???08:31
goorhtwhat??08:31
goorhtbe more precise08:31
leme-twraany greek here08:31
goorhtno sry08:31
Ionutzif i install the pakage from adept manager where it apear08:31
Ionutzsorry for my bad english08:31
goorhtjust make a research of the package08:31
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Hrontorein your start menu08:32
SanneHrontore: looks like there's something amiss with your /etc/apt/sources.list. Can you paste it to the pastebin?08:32
goorhtionutz frend???08:32
goorhtfrench??08:32
Hrontorei dont know how to do that08:32
Hrontorewhen i cant open the packedge manager08:32
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Ionutzno rusian08:33
Ionutz;)08:33
goorhtk08:33
goorhtnobdy is perfect ^^08:33
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Ionutzi using lunux for 1 st tima08:33
SanneHrontore: open it with a text editor, like so: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:33
Ionutztime08:33
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goorhtyou ll see its gr808:33
bruja8hi guys,08:33
goorhthi08:33
SanneHrontore: and please type my name when replying so I get notified when you speak to me08:33
bruja8i am trying to uninstall bcm43xx08:34
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Ionutzi think if i have instaled pakage i see it in K menu08:34
herkensalut08:34
herkenquelqu un parle francais?08:34
Ionutzsalut08:34
goorhtsudo aptitude remove --purge bcm43xx08:34
goorhtoui08:34
HrontoreSanne: got ya08:34
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herkendis j ai un gros probleme08:34
Ionutzi think if i have instaled pakage i see it in K menu iti is true or no08:34
goorhtok good Ionutz you did it08:34
herkencomment je fais pour rentr dedans??08:34
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goorhtit is well installed08:34
SanneHrontore: fine :). Did it open?08:34
bruja8because i can't install ndiswrapper's dirver08:34
Ionutzand now i want to see my partition in ntfs format ?08:35
goorht!help08:35
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:35
Ionutzhow08:35
HrontoreSanne: yes it did, should i use pastbin?08:35
Ionutz?08:35
SanneHrontore: yes, please08:35
goorhtmhhh that time it is too complicated08:35
goorhttake a look onto the wiki08:36
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goorhtof ubuntu08:36
Ionutz <goorht> how u now it?08:36
Ionutzhow i can activate it?08:36
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bruja8guys, can you help me with ndiswrapper please?08:36
herkenjordo je fais comment pour rentr sur le canal que tu ma donner?08:36
pablos_Somebody want to school me in how to upgrade python on a kubuntu box?  I haven't used .deb since 200108:36
Ionutzbut i see the partitions, i cant intro in it08:37
HrontoreSanne:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12780/ (there is also a a backup source.list should i restore that?)08:37
Ionutzsomeone please help me08:37
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bruja8pablos_ go to adept manager08:37
goorhtok08:37
goorhtlast time and I go08:37
goorhtionutz08:37
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pablos_bruja8: can I use that from a shell?08:37
Ionutzok08:37
goorhtsudo fdisk -l08:38
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herkensomeone can me say how save the nvidia.run driver because kate run and it's say to me it's a corrupt file can't save it! :((08:38
goorhtyou type that08:38
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bruja8do apt-get --help to see your options pablo_08:38
Yorokobipablos_, if you're using a shell, dselect is a good tool (with a learning curve :) )08:38
diegoola08:38
makuseruhow can i change the boot order in my grub08:38
goorhtyou should find a ntfs partition08:38
pablos_OK, will dselect let me choose a version?08:38
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Yorokobipablos_, yes08:38
Ionutzi type it08:38
diegoaguem poderia me passa  o amsn08:39
herkenplease help me :(08:39
goorhtgive me the answer08:39
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goorhtherken google it08:39
Ionutzi see the partitions and hdd08:39
goorhtit is not difficult to find on the internet08:39
goorhtok08:39
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goorhtyou should find a ntsf partition08:39
r00t_i intstalled the server version of ubuntu then decided i wanted a kde desktop,so i used aptitude to install kubuntu but im missing all the system utilites and lots of stuff on my menu,what should i do?theres nho adapt no control panel no sytem utils etc08:39
herkeni have search for this!08:39
Ionutzok e see it08:39
goorhtok then08:40
SanneHrontore: no, let's look at what's wrong with your current one first. Look at line 1, that's a wrong format entry.08:40
Ionutzi have 2 ntfs08:40
goorhtyou make08:40
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Ionutz100 gb and 12 gb08:40
davidI've installed gspca driver for my sony vaio webcam (motioneye) and the driver works but the camera controls don't. Any ideas?08:40
HrontoreSanne: delete and save?08:40
goorhtsudo kate /etc/fstab08:40
Yorokobir00t_, sudo apt-get install synaptic08:40
Ionutztype it?08:40
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HrontoreSanne: I mean the first line remove it?08:40
goorhtyeah08:40
Ionutzok08:41
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r00t_Yorokobi: i think im missin a large number of packages and im just wondering what i did wrong08:41
goorhtthen open a new shell08:41
AMSmith42dpkg --configure -a basically reset the package system and I was able to get into adept installer. Thanks Sanne.08:41
SanneHrontore: You can, but then you would need to retrace your steps with wine. We can do it together.08:41
diegohelp08:41
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HrontoreSanne: okay what next08:41
goorhtand type sudo mkdir /the path you want08:41
davidAnyone using gspca driver for webcam?08:41
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Ionutzaa have open fstab-kate08:41
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Yorokobir00t_, you can use synaptic (or dselect, which is already installed) to search for KDE packages. Most start with kde and kde-08:42
SanneAMSmith42: cool, glad it worked. Though, there#s a problem when installing Java with Adept, as I read, so you might want to use the command line for that, if needed.08:42
goorhtNickserv08:42
Ionutzr: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 1608:42
goorht???08:42
goorhtdoes it opened08:42
goorht????08:42
goorhta file08:42
bruja8sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:42
SanneHrontore: I guess you want to add a line for wine to your sources.list?08:42
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Ionutzno08:43
Ionutzno08:43
bruja8sory, thought i was typing in a aterminal08:43
HrontoreSanne: yes WINE on my system is outdated08:43
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Ionutzanother way u now?08:43
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goorhtmhhh08:43
AMSmith42Sanne: Yes, I saw that and had trouble too. I've done it with the command line before with both Sun's method and apt-get. Both are kind of a pain.08:43
goorhtok08:43
fuzzy_logichi all08:43
fuzzy_logic1 question08:43
fuzzy_logici installed kubuntu-package.. but when i try to sign in with kde i get the following message "Could not start kstartupconfig. Please check your installation."08:43
goorhttry sudo kwrite /etc/fstab08:43
AMSmith42Sanne: I've done it with Adept too, for that matter.08:43
makuseruhow can i change the boot order in my grub?08:44
SanneHrontore: ok, I prefer to not let scripts do that, so we will do it manually. First let's look what's in that file that was referenced on the first line you deleted. In a browser, type this: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/edgy.list08:44
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SanneAMSmith42: hmm, I remember installing java from the cli with no problems.08:44
bruja8can someone help me get my wirelss working please?08:44
IonutzPermission denied08:45
Ionutz?08:45
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Ionutzbut i am a admin08:45
goorht???08:45
HrontoreSanne: I haven't deleted anything yet08:45
goorhtshould should have to type your password08:45
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Ionutzno08:45
Ionutzfuck08:45
Ionutzsorry08:45
SanneHrontore: ok, then we do it later. Please go to the location I said with a browser and look what's in there.08:45
LegolasVSo I'm using the nv driver in my X.org, and not the nvidia one (I've got an older Nvidia GeForce, so that'd be nvidia-glx-legacy) but things like SuperTux and TuxRacer get extreme slow. But when I switch to the nvidia one I only can go up to 800x600 and now I have 1280x1024. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong, or is it just beter to stick with what I have?08:46
goorht....08:46
goorhtyou didn't type your password08:46
goorht????08:46
HrontoreSanne: Done08:46
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Hrontore## WineHQ - Ubuntu 6.10 "edgy eft"08:46
Hrontoredeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main08:46
Hrontoredeb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main08:46
AMSmith42Sanne: If you use Adept, you have to click "Show Details" to see the license agreement. My screen wasn't big enough, so I couldn't see all of it to get to the [OK]  in the command line. It is all good now.08:46
Ionutza dont see pas place08:46
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Ionutzok where i can found documentation about it08:46
goorhtjust google it you ll find08:47
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SanneHrontore: you might recognize this are two lines in the same format as the other lines in sources.list? That's for the wine repository. So just copy that and add it to your sources.list, then delete the first line, save, and, if you want, paste the new sources.list to the pastebin.08:47
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goorhti think within a minute you ll have infos on it08:47
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goorhtbye have to go08:48
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Ionutzok thx much08:48
eagles0513875i need help setting up a dhcp server08:48
Tuxubuntu-effects is a sleep channel?08:48
SanneAMSmith42: that's good to know. I don't use Adept, but it's good to know how to help others. Thanks.08:48
HrontoreSanne: I dont seem to have rights to save the document08:48
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SanneHrontore: then you didn't open it with kdesu? Close kate, then type in a konsole or the run dialog: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:50
enryhi08:50
eagles0513875is it rather easy  to set up a dhcp server08:50
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The_MachineI screwed up.  I was trying to get an NTFS External USB drive to work with kubuntu - didn't really work, so i finally undid all of the instructions i was following and was able to reformat as ext3 drive.  Now it doesn't seem to be mounting when I plug it into the USB port.  Can someone help me make it so that it automounts when plugged in again?  (to /media/ and shows up as an icon on my desktop, etc?)08:50
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Ionutzii mounted hdd drive but i cant intro in it08:52
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HrontoreSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12784/ (changes done and apt opened without error)08:53
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Ionutz"u dont have enought permision"08:53
SanneHrontore: please wait with apr, we're not done08:53
Ionutzwhat is the problem08:53
Ionutz?08:53
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HrontoreSanne: Okay08:53
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Ionutzsomeone now it?08:53
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Yorokobi!ru | Ionutz08:53
ubotuIonutz:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke08:53
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SanneHrontore: two more things: 1: Line 3 is a dapper source (dapper-commercial), although the rest is edgy. You might want to change this to read edgy-commercial08:54
SanneHrontore: tell me when done08:56
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HrontoreSanne: (Done) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12785/08:56
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fuzzy_logichi.. i just installed the kubuntu-package.. but when i try to login i get this message: "Could not load kstartupconfig. Please check your installation."08:57
fuzzy_logicanyone help plz?08:57
SanneHrontore: 2: I see you have already enabled universe and multiverse in line 5, that's fine. To get security updates for universe, you might want to remove the '#' sign from lines 35 and 3608:58
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fuzzy_logiccan anyone help me plz?08:59
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, it sounds like you're probably missing some packages. sudo apt-get install kde-core kdebase08:59
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eagles0513875anyon know how to setup a dhcp server09:00
HrontoreSanne: (changes made) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12786/09:00
Yorokobieagles0513875, you may have to read the dhcpd docs09:00
tdnCan I use hibernate if I use LUKS to encrypt my swap partition with a random key?09:00
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eagles0513875do u have a link09:01
williamHi all, does anyone know which program I have to us to remotecontrol my Kubuntu system using RDP via win XP09:01
SanneHrontore: looks good so far. Now we need to update the package list. Open a konsole and type: sudo apt-get update09:01
fuzzy_logicYorokobi: thanx it is installing09:02
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HrontoreSanne: working09:03
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HrontoreSanne: done09:03
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SanneHrontore: cool. Now you should be able to continue normally with your installations.09:04
fuzzy_logicehm.. that didn't work09:04
HrontoreSanne: danka09:04
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SanneHrontore: :) bitte schn (you're welcome)09:04
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fuzzy_logicYorokobi: what you suggested didn't work. can you help me?09:05
Yorokobiokay fuzzy_logic : sudo apt-get install kdedesktop09:05
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Yorokobi... or, format and re-install with a Kubuntu ISO :)09:06
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SanneYorokobi, fuzzy_logic: isn't it kubuntu-desktop?09:06
fuzzy_logicYorokobi i'm not going to do that.. i am against reinstalling systems09:07
Yorokobicould be, I meant kdesktop09:07
Dasnipa`Yorokobi, dont you mean kubuntu-desktop09:07
fuzzy_logicyes, Sanne, it is kubuntu-desktop09:07
Sanne:)09:07
fuzzy_logici've already installed that09:07
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Dasnipa`fuzzy_logic, so now all you have to do is log out and select boot with kde09:07
Dasnipa`and poof09:08
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darxgreetins folks09:08
fuzzy_logicanyone have other solution to my problem? I installed kubuntu-desktop, but when i want to startup in kde i get the following message: "Could not start kstartupconfig. Please check your installation."09:08
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darxhow can i run a startup script in KDE?09:08
fuzzy_logicDasnipa: i installed it, read my msg09:08
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Sannefuzzy_logic: I remember reading something about this problem. I will investigate, sec09:09
darxbetter yet, how can i run one just before login09:09
fuzzy_logictnx09:09
darxits like i cant ifup my interface without --force for some reason09:09
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LegolasVfuzzy_logic: could it have to do something with permissions in your home dir? I've had a situation like that on a debian installation09:09
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darxifup says its already configured but without a working connection09:10
fuzzy_logicLegolasV: that was suggested previously, but unfourunatly that was not the case. the permissions weren't good, but after setting them the right way it still didn't work09:10
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fuzzy_logicshall i maybe try to reinstall kubuntu-desktop package?09:11
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crparrHi! What is the correct way to configure my laptop, so that it uses the external monitor (when present), otherwise the lcd flat panel?09:12
fuzzy_logicdarx: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=13100&sid=8a111a781cedcb91aebecbc854cb704809:12
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Yorokobifuzzy_logic, do you have /usr/bin/kstartupconfig ?09:12
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fuzzy_logicYorokobi: yes i do09:13
darxfuzzy_logic: thanks man09:14
Sannefuzzy_logic: can't find it again, but found this, maybe you get some ideas from that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1725114  Other than that, I don't know, sorry.09:14
YorokobiThen it probably is not a package problem ...09:14
fuzzy_logicSanne: ok.. thanks anyway for the trouble09:14
fuzzy_logicdarx: np09:14
Sannefuzzy_logic: you're welocme :)09:14
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fuzzy_logicYorokobi: any suggestions what it is then?09:14
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HrontoreSanne: I've tried to use glxgears to see frame rates but they dont appear, the gears do the rates dont09:16
fuzzy_logicmaybe it is because of the permissions of kstartupconfig? the group is root and it has only read-only rights09:16
ArwenHrontore, glxgears -printfps09:17
SanneHrontore: listen to Arwen :)09:17
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4600 2007-02-05 22:58 /usr/bin/kstartupconfig*09:17
AaronCampbellHow can I either: a) boot to a comamnd prompt *or* b) pass extra parameters to startx when booting (startx -- -logverbose 6)?09:17
Arwenanyone here tried using cinelerra?09:17
Hrontore:D09:17
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ArwenHrontore, btw, glxgears is NOT a benchmark09:18
darxnow that i know how to run scripts at each session, here comes my first shell script.... i'm soo excited.. wish me luck09:18
darx:)09:18
fuzzy_logicsudo: please use single character options09:18
fuzzy_logicsudo: illegal option `-rwxr-xr-x'09:18
fuzzy_logicusage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v09:18
fuzzy_logicusage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 09:18
fuzzy_logic            { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }09:18
fuzzy_logicYorokobi that's what i get after running your command09:18
Yorokobi:) that wasn't a command09:18
Arwenfuzzy_logic, what were you trying to do?09:18
fuzzy_logicoh lool09:18
fuzzy_logicwhat was it then?09:18
Yorokobisudo chmod 0766 /usr/bin/kstartupconfig09:18
darxfuzzy_logic: you could get banned for pasting that much09:18
Yorokobitry that09:18
fuzzy_logicdarx really? why09:19
Arwendarx, now now, lets not point the banstick at anyone09:19
darxArwen: i'm sorry IRC noob09:19
fuzzy_logicYorokobi i'm gonna try to log into kde now.. let ya know if it works09:19
darxfuzzy_logic: accept my sincere apologies09:19
Yorokobicrap, I can't do math, hold on fuzzy_logic09:20
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Arwenfuzzy_logic, that said, use pastebin.ca instead of dumping stuff to the channel09:20
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Arwenfuzzy_logic, chmod 0755 /usr/bin/kstartupconfig09:20
Yorokobiit should be sudo chmod 0755 /usr/bin/kstartupconfig09:20
fuzzy_logicwhat is pastebin.cs?09:20
Tm_Tdarx: you're not the one to use ban threath, ok? ;(09:20
Arwenfuzzy_logic, pastebin.ca is a website for dumping large amounts of text :-)09:20
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fuzzy_logiclol haha that's a nice one arwen09:21
fuzzy_logicim gonna try.. brb09:21
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darxTm_T: I'm sorry.. I didn't know IRC was well moderated09:21
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darxTm_T: And it wasn't a threat09:22
Tm_Tdarx: ;)09:22
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matervaI am having difficulties setting up bluetooth with my ubuntu ultimate 1.3  does anyone know how to set up the bluetooth?   I am just trying to pair some gadgets together.  thanks09:22
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fuzzy_logicman this crap still doesn't work09:23
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Arwenhaha09:23
Tm_T!ohmy09:23
fuzzy_logici get the same message09:23
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:23
darxTm_T: there was a time when i care little about pissing people off.. but i had my fair share of abrasions with the authority and i knwo better09:23
HrontoreRan glxgears -printfps and the comp hardlocked09:23
Tm_Tdarx: heh, know the feeling09:23
fuzzy_logicaight ubotu.. sorry :)09:23
fuzzy_logicanyone have ideas? shall i reinstall the kubuntu-desktop package? would that work?09:24
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, at this point it probably won't hurt :)09:25
darxfuzzy_logic: i don't know if you know this but ubotu is a bot..09:25
HrontoreIm trying to get a radeon 9600 working09:25
fuzzy_logicdarx i do :)09:25
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darxcool09:25
HrontoreArwen: glxgears -printfos caused a hard lock, what should i do09:25
Yorokobigotta show respect to the bot09:25
Arwenum.... fix your drivers09:25
darxahh.. its awkward in here..brb09:26
fuzzy_logic:) @ darx09:26
HrontoreArwen: how for a radeon 960009:26
Arwendunno how, what does glxinfo | grep direct say?09:26
HrontoreIm using cuase thats what i got09:26
fuzzy_logicreinstalled.. brb09:26
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fuzzy_logicdoesn't work09:27
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fuzzy_logicbut i just reinstalled the kubuntu-desktop package.. not the packages that came with it09:28
HrontoreArwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12791/09:28
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fuzzy_logichow can i do that in 1 click?09:28
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tuxclose call there09:28
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ArwenHrontore, you typed it wrong, it's glxinfo | grep direct09:28
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Yorokobifuzzy_logic, 1 click == Amazon.com to me09:29
fuzzy_logicYorokobi: uhh.. don't get that one?09:29
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YorokobiCLI: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop09:29
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, neither do I09:30
HrontoreArwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12793/ Uhh, no?09:30
fuzzy_logiclol09:30
fuzzy_logicYorokobi, was that for me?09:30
Yorokobithe CLI one, yes09:30
ArwenHrontore, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:30
fuzzy_logici did it.. didn't get any feedback from the terminal dough.. is that normal?09:30
fuzzy_logicYorokobi?09:31
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u0733317psaposd09:32
u0733317saposssssssssssssssssss09:32
fuzzy_logiclol09:32
fuzzy_logicsomeone's testing :P09:32
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, yes?09:32
YorokobiI was reading http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/That_0x27_s_Not_Totally_What_I_Meant.aspx and got distracted09:32
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Tm_Tu0733317: english please09:33
HrontoreArwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12796/09:33
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, okay, I just read through the history. Pardon me, its been a long day already ... and, honestly, I don't know.09:33
fuzzy_logicdoesn't matter, Yorokobi, know that feeling09:33
fuzzy_logicbrb09:33
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HrontoreArwen: so, want to run line 15?09:34
ArwenHrontore, where it says 'Driver "ati"', replace ati with radeon09:34
stevethepirateCan someone please pm me.. I need some help but can't keep up with a conversation on my phone...09:34
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fuzzy_logic#@$@#!@09:35
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Arwenlol09:35
tux2kde rules09:35
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, have you looked at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE ??09:36
stevethepirateHow do i add ftp.leg.uct.ac.za as a apt-get mirror?09:36
Sannefuzzy_logic: I believe in the forum thread I linked to somebody had a solution in the last post.09:36
Arwenstevethepirate, err, try deb ftp.leg.uct.ac.za edgy main - we really can't say without more details09:36
Tm_T!repositories | stevethepirate09:37
ubotustevethepirate: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:37
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fuzzy_logiccan you re-link please? i closed the window in between09:37
Tm_Thmm, might be wrong ;)09:37
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stevethepirateDude. I can't go to websites.. My internet is dead..09:37
HrontoreArwen: for some reason kdesu /etc/X11/xorg.conf  wont opent he doc09:37
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ArwenHrontore, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:37
stevethepirate'm running edgy though09:37
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Arwenstevethepirate, if you have no Internet connection, why do you care about repositories? lol09:38
Hrontoreoops09:38
stevethepirateCan someone please help?09:38
stevethepirateSince that mirror is local for me.. Its on my lan09:38
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Arwenstevethepirate, ask your network admin09:39
HrontoreArwen: made the changes09:39
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ArwenHrontore, restart X - ctrl + alt + backspace09:39
Arwenif it fails, you'll end up on the console09:39
Yorokobistevethepirate, you could change the archive.ubuntu.com entries to your mirror09:39
aaroncampbell_Is there a good visual diff program for kubuntu?  Something line winmerge for linux?09:39
stevethepirateFuck. Dude. Please help.. He's not here. Its close on 10 at night and i need linux to work so i can do my work.09:39
Yorokobistevethepirate, in /etc/apt/sources.list09:40
fuzzy_logicSanne: can you re-link please?09:40
Sannefuzzy_logic: sec09:40
fuzzy_logicok09:40
stevethepirateYa. In there now with nano09:40
fuzzy_logicsanne.. u like.. female?09:40
Arwenstevethepirate, edit /etc/apt/sources.list - like I said, we can't help you because apt lines for different repositories are well... different09:40
Sannefuzzy_logic:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=172511409:40
stevethepirateCould you not look at the server and tell my what to put please'09:41
Arwenis it public?09:41
Sannestevethepirate: I might be able to contruct the deb line for you, sec09:41
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stevethepirateYes. Its public.09:41
Arwenstevethepirate, ah, it's not an Ubuntu repository...09:41
SanneArwen: here is the ubuntu directory with "dists": ftp://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/pub/linux/ubuntu/09:41
Arwenor not09:42
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stevethepirateWhat lines must i add?09:42
Arwenstevethepirate, deb ftp://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/pub/linux/ubuntu edgy main multiverse restricted universe09:42
Sannestevethepirate: please wait, I'm working on it09:42
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HrontoreArwen: now what?09:43
Sannestevethepirate: or listen to arwen ;)09:43
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ArwenHrontore, check if it works - glxinfo | grep direct09:43
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Arwenstevethepirate, also, repeat that line with edgy-backports, edgy-proposed, edgy-security, and edgy-updates instead of edgy09:43
HrontoreArwen09:43
HrontoreArwen: now09:43
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HrontoreArwen: no09:43
ArwenHrontore, ..........................09:44
fuzzy_logicSanne i did what the poster suggested.. brb09:44
stevethepirateHow do i check if its working?09:44
Sannefuzzy_logic: ok09:44
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Hrontorerod@rod-desktop:~$ glxinfo | grep direct09:44
Hrontoredirect rendering: No09:44
Hrontorerod@rod-desktop:~$09:44
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Yorokobistevethepirate, apt-get update09:44
ArwenHrontore, are you on a livecd by any chance?09:44
Yorokobier, sudo apt-get update (one way among many)09:44
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HrontoreArwen: no, this is an install09:45
stevethepirateNice. Thanks people.. One problem sorted out.09:45
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hazardThat's awful damned annoying, when I ghost my name, and you try again to take it.09:45
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ArwenHrontore, hmm........ guess your only option left is !binarydrivers09:46
stevethepirateOkay.. Now. How do i install ntfs reading?09:46
HrontoreArwen: dun dun dunn09:46
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stevethepirateTo read off my other partition.. A windows one.09:46
Arwenstevethepirate, uh, you need to add the ntfs-fuse repository which will require net access09:46
fuzzy_logicit is a big day in the history of (k)ubuntu.. fuzzy_logic is RUNNING KDE!09:46
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Yorokobistevethepirate, $ man mount :)09:47
stevethepirateCan't i apt-get it?09:47
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SanneArwen: for reading? that's possible out of the box, isn't it?09:47
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ArwenSanne, he wants write, no?09:47
Sannefuzzy_logic: haha, did it work? cool.09:47
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stevethepirateWell. Writing too.09:47
fuzzy_logicthank you sanne.. i have to go now..09:47
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fuzzy_logicbye and thanks again!09:47
stevethepirateThis ftp has a lot of stuff on.09:48
SanneArwen: heh, he said read, but ... you anticipated that's not enough :)09:48
Sannefuzzy_logic: you're welcome, take care09:48
fuzzy_logicu209:48
Arwenstevethepirate, well, look for ntfs-3g09:48
Sanne:)09:48
stevethepirateHello' sorry i need to read and write to ntfs09:48
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stevethepirateOkay got ntfs-3g. Now what?09:49
stevethepirateFstab or something?09:49
Arwenstevethepirate, yeah, one sec09:49
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stevethepirateK09:49
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Arwenhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 - stevethepirate09:51
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Arwenskip down to "3. manual configuration"09:51
stevethepirateSorry.. I can't open that..09:51
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Arwen???09:51
stevethepirateNo internet.09:51
Daisuke_Idoum09:51
Daisuke_Idohow are you HERE.09:51
Arwenstevethepirate, how're you talking here?09:51
spitwiseheh09:51
stevethepirateI'm off cellphone here.09:52
Daisuke_Idoouch09:52
spitwiseburn09:52
stevethepirateAnd my cellphone browser is not setup09:52
stevethepirateCould you just line by line it to me in pm09:52
stevethepirate?09:52
matutanohi guys, I'm having problems while trying to connect into wireless network using knetworkmanager, it stalls on 28% , I've seen this problem over the net but I can't find nothing usefull09:52
Arwenstevethepirate, add a line to your fstab (/etc/fstab) that reads "/dev/<partition with ntfs> /mnt/<newfoldername> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0"09:53
Arwenthis is assuming you're in the USA09:53
stevethepirateHow do i know the dev number'09:53
Arwenstevethepirate, ..................09:53
Arwenstevethepirate, fdisk -l09:53
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Arwenlook for the entry that says ntfs09:54
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stevethepirateGot it.09:54
HrontoreArwen: where do i get a binary driver?09:54
Arwen!ati | Hrontore09:54
ubotuHrontore: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:54
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stevethepirateOkay. Added that line. What now?09:56
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stevethepirateDo i need to make a mount folder?09:56
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Yorokobimatutano, that seems to be a quirk with knetworkmanager in 6.10 when connecting to WPA-enabled wifi networks. I end up restarting it until it works09:57
Arwenstevethepirate, yeah, where I said /mnt/emptyfoldername, you need to make the folder09:57
Arwene.g. "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows"09:57
stevethepirateThats exactly what i called it ... :-)09:57
stevethepirateOkay. Done.09:57
stevethepirateNow?09:57
matutanoYorokobi, really? reebooting the computer?09:58
stevethepirateHello?09:58
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Arwenstevethepirate, umount /dev/<windowsdevice>> && mount -a09:58
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Arwenas root09:58
Yorokobimatutano, no. Restart knetworkmanager or retry the connection09:58
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matutanooh ok09:59
matutanolol09:59
matutanobut I must do that every time? Yorokobi or once it works its fine everytime?09:59
stevethepirateSays '/dev/sda1 not mounted'09:59
Arwenstevethepirate, oh, be careful if it's your Windows partition that you're trying to write, if you aren't careful, you might seriousl fsck up09:59
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Arwenstevethepirate, ok, then just do mount -a09:59
stevethepirateWill this fuck my windows partition up?10:00
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Yorokobimatutano, I ended up doing it a lot when I was using WPA2-TKIP but less so with WPA ... I'm not sure if its a WPA problem, or a kwallet problem, or a dhcp problem ...10:00
Arwenstevethepirate, only if you're not careful10:00
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Arwenalso, this is #kubuntu, we don't say "fuck", we say "fsck"10:01
Yorokobi!ohmy | stevethepirate10:01
ubotustevethepirate: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:01
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Yorokobi:)10:01
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YorokobiI like that one10:01
stevethepirateOkay.. Now how do  make my music work?10:01
Daisuke_Idostevethepirate: as far as...10:01
stevethepirateSorry about the swearing..10:02
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stevethepirateJust loaded my music into amarok.10:02
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Arwen!mp3 | stevethepirate10:02
ubotustevethepirate: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:02
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stevethepirateBut when i play something no sound comes out.10:02
stevethepirateDude. About the internet.....10:02
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Arwen...10:03
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Arwenstevethepirate, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs10:03
Arwenalso, sudo apt-get install mplayer10:03
Yorokobistevethepirate, and maybe amarok-xine ...10:03
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Daisuke_Idoaww, mplayer rather than amarok?10:05
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, you can't play DVDs with amarok......10:06
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stevethepirateOkay.. Got the codecs. Still no sound coming out of the computer.10:07
Arwenstevethepirate, sound card?10:08
stevethepirateOnboard.10:08
Yorokobistevethepirate, is the volume turned up ? (not to sound condescending but it happens)10:08
Arwenstevethepirate, ^^10:08
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stevethepirateJokes. Got it working.. Was faulty cable.10:08
Arwenha, you failed it10:08
ArwenYorokobi, high five :-)10:08
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stevethepirateYa. The volume was down.. So i alsamixered it10:09
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Yorokobiback at ya Arwen10:09
Arwenstevethepirate, oh yeah, if you wanna play dvds, you probably also want libdvdcss2, dunno if your local ftp has it though10:09
RoyB72anyone got an idea where I get xwinwrap from?10:09
Arwenwhy is it that you have no net access?10:09
stevethepirateHow do i kill a process?10:09
Arwenstevethepirate, pkill, killall, killl10:10
Arwenany of those10:10
stevethepirateWell. I need to kill amarok10:10
Arwenwhy?10:10
Yorokobistevethepirate, pkill amarokapp10:10
Arwenstevethepirate, please don't say because you don't know how to turn it off?10:11
stevethepirateSweet. By mistake added my whole harddrive10:11
YorokobiThat could take a while to look through :)10:11
Arwenoh yeah, feisty now has ntfs-3g in main repositories, right?10:12
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stevethepirateOkay.. Can i get office2007 running in linux through wine or something?10:13
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Arwenstevethepirate, NO10:13
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Daisuke_Idowhy would you WANT to?10:13
ArwenOffice runs in wine up to 2002, get oo.o10:13
Yorokobistevethepirate, why aren't you just using Windows?10:13
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, probably because MS Office is simply better10:14
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stevethepirateOkay. How do i get openoffice?10:14
Arwenstevethepirate, what Yorokobi said10:14
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Arwenstevethepirate, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org ?10:14
Arwenor just apps -> office -> oo.o app10:14
Daisuke_IdoArwen: office is better, i'll give you that.  but why 2007?10:14
stevethepirateLol.. It is here indeed10:14
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, dunno :-\10:14
stevethepirateI have most of my documents in .docx form...10:15
stevethepirateShould i get xine, vlc or mplayer?10:15
AmyRoseNow I finallty understand why Konversation is better than XChat10:15
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Office is better then what?10:15
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rstancaAmyRose: why?10:16
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stevethepirateWhat to use to watch dvd's10:17
AmyRoserstanca: XChat doesn't do message formatting10:17
rdkHello. I'd like to upgrade my Kubuntu Dapper to Edgy. What should I do?10:17
AmyRoseXChat also makes it harder to issue multiple ChanServ commands at once too10:17
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stevethepirateHello?10:17
Daisuke_Idopollyo: overall, office is still better than OO.o10:17
Daisuke_Idobut not office 2007.10:18
AmyRosestevethepirate: www.getautomatix.com10:18
Daisuke_IdoNO!10:18
Daisuke_Ido!automatix10:18
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:18
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AmyRose!WorksForMe10:18
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.10:18
AmyRoseOh,  learned that the hard way10:18
stevethepiratePeople. What program should i use to watch dvd's ?10:18
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Daisuke_Idokaffeine, i suppose10:19
AmyRosestevethepirate: Kaffeine and the codecs you can install in Automatix10:19
Daisuke_Idoeek!10:19
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HrontoreArwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12798/10:19
Daisuke_Ido!codecs10:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:19
stevethepirateWhat about vlc?10:19
rdkThere is apt-get dist upgrade command. What does it work?10:19
Daisuke_Idovlc is very nice10:19
rstancaAmyRose: konversation has issues with ChanServ too, e.g first joins a channel and the registers me10:19
ArwenHrontore, sudo10:19
AmyRoserstanca: I haven't had such problems o.o10:20
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Arwenanyone, I mounted an ntfs partition as gid=fuse, and I'm in the fuse group, but I can't access it...10:20
Daisuke_Idoshould probably check for updates...10:20
stevethepirateWhats its name? Vlc or vlcplayer or what?10:20
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Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get install vlc10:20
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HrontoreAAAHHH dont leave me arwen10:21
raffytaffyif i compile new kernel do i have to reinstall TOR and Privoxy?10:21
Hrontorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12799/10:21
stevethepirateIs there a decent linux dc client?10:21
Daisuke_Idoooh, jackpot!10:21
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Daisuke_Idostevethepirate: there is10:22
stevethepirateCalled?10:22
Daisuke_Idodc++10:22
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stevethepirateLol.10:23
Daisuke_Idolinuxdcpp.berlios.de10:23
stevethepirateOkay. That was not highergrade..10:23
aaroncampbell_can I change "runlevel" (that might be a redhat term)?  Basically, I want to shutdown (maybe even restart) to a command prompt (no X), but have it still boot like normal next time10:23
Daisuke_Idoit's actually nicer than the windows client10:23
YorokobiAaronCampbell, man runlevel10:24
stevethepirateHow do i get it?10:24
Daisuke_Idolet me look, i don't know if it's in the repos10:24
neil__anyone good at compiling apps here?10:25
stevethepirateDai.. How do i get it?10:25
neil__got a prob i just cant fix10:25
stevethepirateGcc10:25
neil__Downloaded mp3splt-gtk..10:25
neil__Ive installed build-essential, and several dev libraries it required10:25
neil__But it doesnt seem to be able to find libogg, even tho ive installed it10:25
Yorokobiaaroncampbell_, or man telinit10:25
neil__./configure output:10:25
neil__./configure: line 21448: syntax error near unexpected token `,{'10:25
neil__./configure: line 21448: `XIPH_PATH_OGG(,{ { echo "$as_me:$LINENO: error: Ogg needed! Download the latest version of libogg at http://www.xiph.org" >&5'10:25
Daisuke_Idookay10:25
Daisuke_Idostevethepirate: check out the source via cvs and compile10:26
Daisuke_Idonot a great solution, i know10:26
stevethepirateI have no clue what you just said10:27
Yorokobineil__, where is it looking for libogg ?10:27
neil__Yorokobi: I dont know, but that sounds like the problem, as I didnt add libogg from synaptic unlike the rest..10:27
neil__How do I check, or tell it where to look?10:27
Daisuke_Idomake sure you install the -dev package10:27
Yorokobilocate libogg10:27
neil__neil@cascade:~/mp3splt-project/libmp3splt$ whereis libogg10:27
neil__libogg: /usr/lib/libogg.a /usr/lib/libogg.la /usr/lib/libogg.so /usr/local/lib/libogg.so /usr/local/lib/libogg.la /usr/local/lib/libogg.a10:27
neil__shall I do locate too?10:27
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YorokobiDaisuke_Ido, may have hit it10:27
stevethepirateDai.. What do i do?10:27
Daisuke_Idostevethepirate: http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/document.php?id=110:28
Daisuke_Idowait10:28
Daisuke_Idono web, i forgot10:28
stevethepirateI can't open web pages... No internet10:28
Yorokobineil__, do you have the libogg??-dev package installed ? But, back to my original question, where is the app that you're compiling looking for the lib?10:28
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neil__I don't know where its looking, or how to find out10:29
neil__and from what I can see, a -dev package doesnt exist10:29
mervteckok is anyone here good with cedega, the cedega IRC channel is worthless10:29
neil__i think libogg /is/ the dev package10:29
Yorokobineil__, check the configure script (or its output)10:29
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Yorokobineil__, if you get it working, let me know if it is worth owning10:30
Daisuke_Idoneil__: sudo apt-get install libogg-dev10:30
Yorokobineil__, strike my last comment,10:30
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neil__libogg-dev is already the newest version.10:31
neil__apparently...10:31
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neil__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12752/ It says this before compiling, but I don't know what it means...10:31
Daisuke_Idothen you have the dev package10:32
neil__Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, guess I do.. its like it's looking in the wrong place10:32
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Yorokobineil__, try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/libogg.so ./configure10:33
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stevethepirateWhats the name of that program that opens a console when you press F12 ?10:33
Yorokobistevethepirate, yakuake10:34
neil__Yorokobi: same error :(10:34
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Daisuke_Idofinally!  K3B 1.0!10:34
Yorokobiyeah, not surprised10:34
neil__this is the line from configure that checks for ogg:10:34
neil__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12804/10:34
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neil__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12805/ oops missed a bit10:35
Yorokobiokay neil__ try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib ./configure10:35
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neil__same :) hehe10:35
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neil__I don't understand the code in configure, not used to the syntax, so cant really help myself..10:36
enrygood night!10:36
stevethepirateWhats a good ssh server?10:36
stevethepirateCheers10:36
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Yorokobistevethepirate, openssh10:37
Yorokobior, if you want to pay for it Tectia10:37
stevethepirateWhat do i type to download it?10:37
AaronCampbellDoes kubuntu have an equivolant to inittab?10:37
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YorokobiAaronCampbell, upstart is probably what you're looking for10:38
AaronCampbellI want to set it to boot to a prompt rather than X10:39
Yorokobiat least, I think that's what its called10:39
YorokobiAaronCampbell, add exit 0 to the 2nd line of /etc/init.d/(k|g)dm10:39
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stevethepirateWhat do i apt-get to get openssh?10:39
Yorokobistevethepirate, apt-get install openssh-server10:39
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stevethepirateHow do i get nvidia drivers?10:40
Yorokobistevethepirate, sudo dselect10:40
YorokobiUpdate10:40
YorokobiSelect10:40
YorokobiThen use / and search10:40
IrayoOkay, I have a file set to mode 770 (rwxrwx---) owned by 'bob' and in group 'bob'.  User 'jim' is in group 'bob'.  How come jim can't read the file, even though he's in a group with read access?10:41
YorokobiThat was a bit laconic but at the moment, it seems like a good way to get you started stevethepirate10:41
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pollyoIf I decide to install Gnome in addition to KDE will it allow me to select what desktop to startup in?10:42
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PhinnFortpollyo: yes, it should10:43
PhinnFortwhen you log in, you select either a gnome or kde session10:43
stevethepirateCan you help with that nvidia driver setup please...10:43
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stdinIrayo: has "jim" logged out and back in since he was added to group "bob" ?10:45
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Irayostdin: err, well, "jim" is my KDE user, so no ... I'll try that10:46
stevethepirateHow would i install my nvidia graphics drivers'10:46
stdin!nvidia10:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:47
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neil__Yorokobi: found a set of .debs on the authors site10:47
neil__they seem to work better10:47
stevethepirateI can't dude.. No internet..10:47
Yorokobineil__, that's convenient10:47
mervteckcan anyone tell me if this wishlist shows up for them? https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.asp?ID=537836610:47
neil__I think the ./configure script is buggy as it ignores flags10:47
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Daisuke_Idostevethepirate: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx10:48
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matutanohere I am again... kdemanager still stalls at 28% (while configuring the network card) but with wireless assistant I can easly connect, my problem, is that it don't use WPA, I need to fix kde or have other network manager program as default :\10:49
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chijinknetworkmanager seems to stall at 28% if the passphare is wrong10:50
mart81chijin: yeah here too, what about it?10:51
Yorokobimatutano, prior to using knetworkmanager, I always used 'sudo wlassistant'10:51
matutanowhat0s passphare? and what can U do :\10:51
matutanoI'm using wlassistant10:51
matutanoto be connected right now10:52
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matutanobut... in my work place I need to connect into a network that uses WPa10:52
matutano :\10:52
metalluver222Okay so all of my dvd players on here.... arnt working10:52
metalluver222all of them have error messages10:52
metalluver222anyone have an idea on how to fix this10:52
Yorokobimatutano, um ... wlassistant at your current location and knetworkmanager at work ... ??10:53
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matutanoknetworkmanager can't connect ...10:53
matutanostalls on 28%10:53
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matutanowhile configuring my network card10:54
stevethepirateMy konsole won't let me type..10:54
digital_logicwhat kind of card is it?10:54
neil__If anyone wonders, it seems to work well :)10:54
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digital_logicdo you have a keyboard mr har har?10:54
matutanoit uses RT2500 drivers10:54
matutanoas default... it has worked already10:55
digital_logiccan you tell from console if en*/eth* is up/down/configured/active?10:55
matutanook ok10:55
digital_logicor, if lsmod says the driver modle for your card is actually loaded10:55
matutanomust be I'm connect by wireless atm10:55
matutano(the driver) rt2500                188004  110:56
digital_logicso...what's the problem then?10:56
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koflerWhere is the boost spirit package on Ubuntu?10:57
matutanothe problem is that... I'm connectd using wireless assistant10:57
anti_popbooze ?10:57
matutanothat does not have wpa10:57
matutanoand in my work place I need wpa10:57
digital_logicAhhhhhh10:57
digital_logicOk, sorry, missed that part.10:58
matutano:\10:58
matutanolol no problem :P10:58
koflerI installed libboost-dev, and that seemed to install the header files for libboost_spirit, but nothing for boost spirit itself.10:58
matutanoit's a reported problem... but none solution I've found all over internet has worked for me10:58
koflerI don't see a libboost_spirit.a anywhere.10:58
digital_logickofler: install libbost too, -dev(s) are always just headers.10:59
koflerdigital_logic: There's no such thing.10:59
digital_logicand libbost is C++ extension libs, it MAY not have that lib10:59
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koflerdigital_logic: Yes I know that, but first off, it's called boost, and secondly neither libbost nor libboost exists.10:59
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digital_logicHrm.11:00
koflerdigital_logic: If it doesn't have that library, then why are the header files for it included?11:00
koflerdigital_logic: In the -dev package that is.11:00
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digital_logicso it can use function prototypes that are actually defined in a larger combined but equivilent libarary?11:00
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koflerAre you just throwing buzzwords out there just to throw them out there?11:01
koflerThat makes no sense.11:01
koflerIf I gave you the prototypes, I'd also give you the source.11:01
koflerEither don't provide the prototypes or provide the source and the prototypes.11:01
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digital_logicWell, I dunno.11:02
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digital_logiclibbost and me don't get along (stuff never builds against it for me)11:02
neil__!ipod11:02
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod11:02
koflerIt's libboost! :\11:02
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Yorokobimatutano, I had problems with knetworkmanager and wpa2 but not wpa or wep but I've since upgraded to feisty beta and haven't tried wpa2 again11:02
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digital_logicmeh, you know what I mean, I know what I'm thinking, so what if that's not what I said? :P11:03
matutanoYorokobi, there's anyproblem with feisty ?11:03
YorokobiI have not had a problem with knetworkmanager and feisty11:04
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Yorokobi... out of the two times I've used it so far11:04
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matutanoYorokobi,  can you give-me some kind of suport for feisty installation? :X11:04
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Yorokobimatutano, such as?11:05
matutanoand I'm using beryl, hopping that isn't messing up11:05
matutanowiki :X11:05
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Yorokobimatutano, Xgl, beryl shouldn't have anything to do with knetworkmanager11:05
odin-argaiglx ftw11:05
pollyoI'm using feisty.11:06
pollyoYou can find more help with feisty in ubuntu+111:06
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tuxw00t, now ubuntu officially rocks11:06
matutanopollyo, ubuntu+1 ?11:06
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matutanoI'm a newbie linux user lol11:07
Daisuke_Idomatutano: #ubuntu+111:07
Daisuke_Idoit's another channel here on freenet11:07
matutanotrying to use linux instead of windows11:07
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Thanks.  Yes.  #ubuntu+111:07
pollyoI still forget the #11:07
matutanolol11:07
matutanono problem I know how to connect :P11:08
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pollyoAnyone know of a website that does hardware reviews for linux?11:08
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tuxmatutano, once you know how linux works, you dont even want windows anymore11:09
matutanotux, I know that11:09
Yorokobiexcept for games :)11:09
matutanosome of them :\11:09
Daisuke_Idothat's changing too11:09
Yorokobiunless you can get them to work under wine or cadega11:09
matutanothe ones that use direct x11:09
Daisuke_Idonot completely, but somewhat11:09
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Is gaming starting to grow for linux?11:10
Daisuke_Idono, i'm just dreaming :)11:10
pollyo<grin>11:10
Daisuke_Idothere are the companies that release linux ports, but there aren't many of those11:10
tuxoh lol11:10
matutanowell I have vista11:10
matutanoand what can I say11:10
tuxget rid of it11:10
tuxit's a virus11:10
matutano500 M to run aero?11:11
Daisuke_Idomatutano: it's okay, we're all ashamed at some point in our lives, this is yours.11:11
matutanolololol11:11
tuxit's ok to admin it11:11
matutanook thanks xD11:11
odin-argWINE has made huge leaps lately11:11
tuxwe all make mistakes11:11
matutanoI only have a problem11:11
odin-argwon't be long till most things work out of the box11:11
Daisuke_Idoodin-arg: especially in the DX field11:11
matutanognome and kde are installed at same time11:11
Daisuke_Idotruly awesome11:11
tuxis it called vista mututano?11:11
tuxthe problem?11:11
matutanothe new windows?11:11
matutanoyap11:11
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Daisuke_Idomatutano: what's te problem with that?11:11
tuxvista is the problem11:11
odin-argi installed steam and cs and cs:s and i get perfect fps and it worked first time11:11
Daisuke_Ido(gnome and kde)11:12
matutanosometimes it crashes11:12
odin-arg:] 11:12
matutanoduring log out11:12
Daisuke_Idothat shouldn't have to do with those11:12
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Daisuke_Idoodin-arg: what release?11:12
Daisuke_Idoi want to see if they finally have the longest journey working11:12
odin-argedgy, wine 0.9.33, kde 3.5.611:12
Daisuke_Idothat would make me cream in my jeans11:12
odin-argusing the new .msi installer aswell11:12
Daisuke_Idoand i didn't just say that.11:12
matutanolol my only problem so far by using linux, is that some things ain't that trivial11:13
odin-arggoogle! :D11:13
matutanoI suffer microsoft disease :\11:13
odin-argeverything is out there11:13
Daisuke_Idomatutano: i did as well11:13
matutanobut I don't miss blue screens11:13
matutanoxD11:13
Daisuke_Idoi struggled for a while with "oh great, it was so much easier to do X in windows"11:13
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Daisuke_Idonow i know that's not true :D11:13
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matutanoand in linux I have much more options :\11:14
matutanoand there's no problems after getting right11:14
odin-argtbh, i blame k/ubuntu for my falling in-love with linux11:15
odin-argall other distros were that little bit more problematic11:15
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matutanoI had suse11:15
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odin-argme too11:15
matutanois to much like windows11:15
matutanolol11:15
odin-argkubuntu wins tho :p11:15
Daisuke_Idomy first linux experience was mandrake11:15
matutanolol11:15
Daisuke_Idothen fedora core11:16
odin-argmine was gentoo cuz im a bit of a silly one11:16
digital_logicmine was suse11:16
digital_logic(it never worked very long)11:16
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matutanoI had uninstalled linux after running ubunt x6411:16
matutanowas so bad....11:16
matutanonow with the 32 version, I'm getting crazzy with it11:16
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digital_logicthen I think i tried Kubuntu, but didn't get along with it either (because it had xserver).....now I like Debian. Headlessly.11:16
jhutchinsredhat>madrake>suse>mandrake/mandriva, gentoo, fc, and kubuntu on alternate boxes.11:17
matutanoUbuntu 7.04 is the most user-friendly Ubuntu to date and includes a ground-breaking Windows migration assistant, excellent wireless networking support and improved multimedia support11:17
Daisuke_Idowhoa11:17
matutanohope so... is the worst in kubunt11:17
Daisuke_Idowindows migration assistant?11:17
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Yorokobiwindows migration assistant == automatic partition deleter11:18
matutanoI can't upate do ubuntu 7.04 ?11:19
matutano*to11:19
Daisuke_IdoYorokobi: ehh, sometimes, but there are a lot of people that have important documents (and don't back them up regualrly), so it's probably more than that11:19
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YorokobiTrue enough, Daisuke_Ido (favorite Ido :) )11:20
matutanoI can't update to ubuntu 7.04 ?11:20
Yorokobiido wa nan desu ka11:20
YorokobiWhy not, matutano ?11:20
decanyone know of a good package for creating c programs in kde ubuntu, something that is easy to understand syntaxwise11:20
matutanoI'm asking11:20
Daisuke_Idodec: vim11:20
koflerdec: KDevelop is decent. But if you really want to learn, use vim and command line tools.11:20
Daisuke_Idomatutano: what are you running now?\11:21
matutanokubuntu11:21
koflerdec: Eclipse is okay as well if you're machine can handle the memory hog.11:21
Daisuke_Idoversion?11:21
matutanodgy11:21
matutanoedgy11:21
deccan i get vim using synaptic11:21
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Daisuke_Idoyou can do the disttro upgrade to feisty then install ubuntu-desktop11:21
koflerdec: sudo apt-get install vim-full11:21
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Yorokobimatutano, this worked for me when I tried it (once so far) : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade11:22
matutanothanks xD11:22
Yorokobito upgrade from edgy to feisty11:22
Daisuke_IdoYorokobi: that's what i was talking about :)11:22
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N6REJhow do you have samba shared folders show up on your desktop?  I've managed to verify that smbclient sees the shares on the server but I can't figure out how to make sure that they mount and stay mounted on kubuntu workstation.11:24
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eilker!cedega11:26
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega11:26
odin-argwine > cedega11:26
odin-arg!wine11:26
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:26
matutanoI'm really sorry to anoy you guys again.... were the hell are the file to get some updates from internet (I don't know the name in english... is were the universe and multiuniverse things are)11:27
stdinN6REJ: you'll have to mount them then, use smb4k, it's a GUI for it11:27
odin-arg!reopsitories11:27
odin-argawww11:27
matutanook11:27
odin-argthat should so work11:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reopsitories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:27
matutano!repositories11:27
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:27
Ionutz!nvidia11:27
stdinmatutano: /etc/apt/sources.list11:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:27
odin-argjust search repositories in the kubuntu forums11:28
odin-arg:] 11:28
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stdinodin-arg: you could just type !repo11:28
stdininstead of  !repositories11:29
odin-arg:p11:29
N6REJmount them how?11:29
stdinN6REJ: like I said, use smb4k (in universe I believe)11:30
stdin!smb4k11:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smb4k - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:30
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N6REJstdin: its already installed11:30
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N6REJstdin: OH THERE THEY ARE11:31
N6REJok, cool11:31
stdinN6REJ: :p11:31
N6REJsmb4k sees them11:31
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N6REJstdin: bah!11:31
N6REJsmbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)11:32
N6REJsmbmnt failed: 111:32
stdinN6REJ: you only need to mount if you want non-kde apps to read network files, kde apps can use the smb:/ kioslave11:32
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stdinN6REJ: sudo chmod u+s $(which smbmnt)11:32
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N6REJstdin: ok, lets say for example amarok.  I want ALL mp3s to be stored in a mp3 folder on the server.11:32
N6REJstdin: it was the cdrom on the server.11:33
N6REJstdin: I ALWAYS want the cdrom on the server to mount if it has something in it.11:33
matutanoI have another problem... may <Alt> isn't working... for writing :\11:33
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crookshanksanyone know off the top of their head which package has section 2 of the socket manpage?11:34
N6REJk11:34
Daisuke_Idomatutano: right alt?11:34
Daisuke_Idoor left alt?11:34
matutanoboth11:34
Daisuke_Idodunno then11:34
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Daisuke_Ido<offtopic> 25 minutes until rockstar's webserver melts </offtopic>11:35
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matutanothey work as changing keys, but don't let-me do @ f.e. (had copy this one from console)11:35
joggohi11:35
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pollyoWhat do I select to have the ubuntu gnome setup on my machine as well as the kubuntu kde setup?11:36
stdincrookshanks: manpages-dev seems to have it11:36
crookshanksstdin: great, thanks11:36
stdin!gnome11:36
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.11:36
NoxvilleHello11:36
NoxvilleAnyone still here?11:36
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stdinpollyo: install ubuntu-desktop11:37
pollyostdin: Thank you.11:37
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Stevethepirate2Hello.11:37
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Stevethepirate2Anyone still here'11:37
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ionus!nvidia11:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:39
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Stevethepirate2Wish i could have read that before i ducked up my install.11:39
Stevethepirate2Can anyone actally read what i'm writing?11:40
Stevethepirate2Hello?11:40
odin-argHeya11:41
stdinyes, we can read you11:41
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odin-argwhat was the problem?11:41
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x`0ffhey , I got a problem with my screen11:42
x`0ffyesterday I installed kubuntu, and now whenever I scroll down or up11:42
x`0ffmy screen is like "cut in frames"11:42
stevethepirateMe too.. Had that problem 5 mins ago11:42
x`0ffit doesnt scrool smoothly11:42
stevethepirateOh.11:42
odin-argmm :/11:42
x`0ffanyway I can change that?11:42
x`0ffI'm thinkin it has to do with the xorg.conf11:43
odin-argu on edgy or feisty?11:43
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x`0ffedgy11:43
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ionus!nvidia11:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:43
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stevethepirateWhat do i need to play .wma and .m4a 's?11:44
odin-argw32codecs11:44
odin-argionus, google Envy11:44
odin-argworks lovely11:44
odin-arg:] 11:44
joggo!nvidia11:45
stdinstevethepirate: .m4a is mpeg4 audio, if it's from itunes tho, it's DRM'ed and you can't play it11:45
stevethepirateWhats the command to install them'11:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:45
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stevethepirateIts not from itunes.. I ripped it myself11:45
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stdinstevethepirate: mpeg4 audio is play with the same packages as mp3s (afaik)11:46
pulaskihello all11:46
tuxmatutano: deleted vista already?11:46
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ionusi cant chage resolution11:46
ionus?11:46
pulaskihas anyone had any experience using krec recording app with a microphone as input?11:46
stevethepirateHow do i get support for wma then?11:46
stdin!resolution | ionus11:46
ubotuionus: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:46
mooseshapedi have vista on cd somewhere, new coaster :d11:47
tuxubotu you're quick11:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you're quick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:47
pulaskiI can't get the vu meter to register a signal11:47
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tuxnooo mooseshaped burn the CD11:47
stdinstevethepirate: w32codecs, info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs11:47
mooseshapedgot it from work, i have a windows laptop11:47
stevethepirateI can't open webpages.. I'm on cellphone11:47
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mooseshapedsoon to be a vista laptop because I want to laugh11:48
stdinstevethepirate: well you need to download the .deb and install it11:48
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sparrwhat should be QTDIR be while building qt libraries and apps?11:48
stevethepirateCan't i apt-get it?11:48
tuxmooseshaped: training your control alt delete fingers already?11:48
stdinstevethepirate: no11:48
stevethepirateShit.11:49
stdin!language11:49
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:49
stevethepirateCould you email it to me?11:49
tuxso everybody: dont say the word vista anymore :D11:49
Sannesparr: /usr/share/qt311:49
mooseshapedhehe11:49
stdinstevethepirate: sure /msg me your email address11:49
mooseshaped:says it11:49
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tuxnoooooooo11:49
williamHi all, does anyone know which program I have to us to remotecontrol my Kubuntu system using RDP via win XP11:49
mooseshapedssh william11:50
mooseshapedthat will get to the command prompt11:50
Dasnipa`william, also vncserver/viewer are useful11:50
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stdin!vnc11:50
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX11:50
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ionuschange resolution11:51
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ionusplease hepl to change resolution11:51
williamDasnipa thx but i can't use VNC as our company firewall blocks it11:51
mooseshapedwhat ports do you have available william?11:52
stevethepirateTunnel it through on port 11011:52
Dasnipa`port 8011:52
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LeeJunFanwilliam: you can set VNC to listen on any port you want.11:53
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williami usually use NAT port 8080 to what ever but somehow VNC still deosent work11:53
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DrXcan anyone help a relative newbie backup a block device (/dev/sda5)?11:54
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williamDasnipa  i usually forward port 8080 via NAT port 3389 but somehow VNC still deosent work11:55
stdinDrX: dd is what you want11:55
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digital_logicmmmm11:56
LeeJunFanwell, only if you want to back it bit by bit, rsync is better if you want to copy the files w/o all the 0's between them.11:56
digital_logicdd11:56
Dasnipa`william, hm11:56
digital_logicdd is fun11:56
stevethepirateHow. When deist11:56
alexeyyeah dd if=/dev/sda of=filename11:56
digital_logicbut you can pipe dd though gzip and it will scompresst the zeros out11:56
alexeyor dump/restore11:56
digital_logic(but once you ungzip it it will be the full sparse size again)11:57
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digital_logicusing bs=32K or something will help11:57
digital_logic(most drives will perform better if you given them big block sizes)11:57
LeeJunFanrsync will allow you to make incremental backups as well. So you can backup daily and it'll only need to copy the files that have changed. dd will copy the whole device every time.11:57
DrXstdin, i can't get the /dev/sda5 mounted11:57
digital_logicdosent' need to be.11:57
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stdinDrX: tried fsck on it?11:58
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DrXstdin, can't afford to lose the data, lose the data, lose my job11:58
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digital_logicyou're not reading from the filesystem, you're reading from the disk itself (dd dosen't care what's on the disk, it just reads blocks and writes them to wherever)11:58
hyper_chLeeJunFan: rsync doesn't even copy the whole files that were altered but only the altered parts of it :)11:58
williamDasnipa I've also tried using the stabdart remote prog from KUBUNTU but it crashes after a few seconds11:58
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ionusplease hepl to change resolution11:59
digital_logicDrx, is sda1-4 mounted?11:59
DrXdigital_logic: so I can dd /dev/sda5 without mounting it?11:59
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williamDasnipa connecting to windows works but not to Linux and I'm tired of using windows11:59
digital_logicyes11:59
ionusplease hepl to change resolution11:59
N6REJionus: display resolution is controled in system settings under display11:59
DrXdigital_logic: /dev/sda2 is mounted11:59
Dasnipa`william, that is weird man i dunno11:59
LeeJunFanDrX: if you can't mount it the dd IS what you want. you make an image of the disk and you can treat it like a device, mount it with loopback, run fsck on it , etc...11:59
pollyoWhere do I find infromation on dd?11:59
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N6REJ!dd | polly011:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:59
stevethepirateHow do i set my pc to get a new dhcp address on start-up?11:59
pollyoThank you.11:59
digital_logicweird things would happen if it were mounted and you started reading sequential blocks from the drive11:59
alexeyWhen there was problems with mount dump/restore couple of times help me11:59
N6REJpollyo: man dd11:59
Dasnipa`william, can you connect to the windows, and from that connection connect to linux?11:59
digital_logicok11:59
N6REJpollyo: from konsole12:00
LeeJunFan!info dd12:00
ubotuPackage dd does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas12:00
ionusi cant change resolution12:00
DrXLeeJunFan: and I can dd it back anytime I need to?12:00
digital_logicso then DRX since sda2 is mounted12:00
ionusi cant change resolution12:00
eilker!wget > eilker12:00
LeeJunFanDrX: yes12:00
ionusi cant change resolution12:00
Sannepollyo: man dd, or type man:/dd in konqueror for easier reading12:00
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digital_logicyou'd want to dd if=/dev/sda5 bs=128k of=/file/on/partition/bigger/than/sda512:00
LeeJunFanDrX: if the HD is suspect of failing, try to make one dd as a backup, then copy that file and try to repair that 2nd backup file as a drive.12:00
stdin!repeat | ionus12:00
ubotuionus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:00
N6REJionus: there is a tab that says "limit to what my card supports" if that is checked then that is the "problem" but its not a problem because you have something going on with the card12:01
DrXLeeJunFan: /dev/sda5 is 60GB, is it going to backup all 60GB or just the data?  (60G would be hard for me to archive)12:01
stdinUbotu, tell ionus about resolution | ionus, see the private message from Ubotu12:01
LeeJunFanDrX: that way you keep your first dd to make copies of, and in case the HD is failing you don't have to worry about making more dd's.12:01
N6REJstdin: ty12:01
LeeJunFanDrX: it's going to back up the whole thing, bit by bit.12:01
ionusi instal driver and i cant chage resolution12:01
digital_logicDrx: yes, you'd end up with 1 60GB file.12:01
DrXLeeJunFan: can dd compress the target image?12:01
digital_logicyou could (and would need to) use split to break up the hunks to copy though smb12:02
N6REJionus: did you follow all the directions?12:02
LeeJunFanDrX: I think digital_logic said above you can pipe dd to gzip12:02
digital_logicno, but gzip can12:02
alexeyno you should compress it with gzip12:02
digital_logicBut then you can't access it12:02
DrXoh, so make a file image with DD to another 60GB block device, then compress it to a third block device using GZIP?12:02
digital_logicwell, umm...yea if the goal was to get a compressed file containing the data that you couldn't access anymore (only becaue you can't read transparently though gzip)12:03
LeeJunFandigital_logic: if your job is that important, maybe it's important enough to go buy a USB HD to back this up to? :)12:03
LeeJunFanerr DrX12:04
LeeJunFansry12:04
hyper_chit would use incremental snapshot-style backups using rsync and hardlinks12:04
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DrXdigital_logic, i have one here, no problem, i was referring to fsck12:04
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stdinyou can try something like "dd if=/dev/sda5 of=- | zcat - > backup.gz" that *should* work12:04
digital_logicI'm not sure how images work in linux (never tried) but I *DO* know that OSX will recoginze the resulting file that dd outputs (the uncomrpessed one) as a read/write sparse disk image if you chage the extension to .dmg12:05
digital_logicI'm sure something similar could be done in windows/linux (but don't know how)12:05
digital_logicyou don't need the of12:05
digital_logicdd will by default read/write to sdin/out if no arg given12:05
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digital_logicand i'll *REPEAT*, if you gzip the output file, you can't access the data until you unarchive it.12:06
DrXI plan to do a dd but I would also like to run a backup utility that can compress the actual bits (it's one very large file but it's probably only 5-8GB of the 60G total & the smaller image will be easier to move around)12:06
Dasnipa`DrX, in soviet russia, fsck you12:06
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digital_logicwhich means you'd need probably ~100G of space.12:06
ZmAYhello, can somebody help me with storing 1 file to floppy disk12:06
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digital_logicOk12:06
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digital_logichold on, lemme see if I can find my dd imager sciript12:07
digital_logic(made for just this kind of thing)12:07
digital_logicthough, it was written to work on smbfs, which means it also had to split files into hunks <2GB12:07
coty_is there a such think called jewbuntu12:07
AFKHey all12:07
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DrXI12:08
coty_someone just tolled me that there is a jewbuntu12:08
LeeJunFanDrX: if you dd it to a file you can mount it with mount -oloop [filename]  [mountpoint] , you can fsck it as well. You're better off dding the parition rather than the whole drive in that case, it's easier to work with loopback that way.12:08
AZNSLDCould I get some help?12:08
coty_but i have never heard of it12:08
AZNSLDIf some one has the time12:08
stdincoty_: if there is, it's not an official version12:08
DrXdigital_logic: so, do you think I should avoid gzip or it's not a big risk/problem?12:08
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coty_stdin: so there pulling my leg12:09
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LeeJunFanDrX: if you gzip you can't treat the resulting file as if it were a hd.12:09
AZNSLDDoes anyone know about iptables12:09
digital_logicyes12:09
stdincoty_: maybe, maybe not. there are modified versions of ubuntu out there that aren't official12:09
digital_logicIf you need to ACCESS the data, then you don't want to compress it.12:09
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digital_logichowever, if you need to MOVE it around then you'd want to compress it.12:09
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coty_stdin: well the link to it is not real the one they gave me12:09
DrXdigital_logic: for backup & restore mainly, what do you think?12:10
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digital_logicthen compressing it would make perfect sense12:10
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grgs_hello se olous12:10
DrXwhy do you suppose I can't mount the ext3 block device BUT the contents work just fine?12:10
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digital_logicyou could create a fancy pipe that would go from disk->compressed&split file, and then one that goes from compressed&splitfiles->cat->back to disk12:10
digital_logicmagical pixie dust? I dunno, could be anything.12:11
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LeeJunFanDrX: what? you can't access the contents of a partition if it isn't mounted.12:11
DrXLeeJunFan: oh, no, kimosabe, this isn't so12:11
LeeJunFanDrX: yes it is.12:12
LeeJunFanDrX: how do you know it isn't mounted?12:12
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DrXLeeJunFan: fdisk -l doesn't show it12:12
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DrXsorry, mount doesn't show it12:12
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LeeJunFanDrX: mount reads mtab, what's the device name again?12:12
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