[12:14] <freyelise> ethernet card works ok, but how do I make the call? KPPP only talks about modems.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> freyelise, behind a dsl router ?
[12:16] <freyelise> my problem is I can't find where to type my login and password, basically :)
[12:17] <kikoman> try 192.168.1.1 on your browser
[12:18] <BluesKaj> KPPP is for dialup
[12:18] <freyelise> could not connect to host ... it says
[12:18] <BluesKaj> what says ?
[12:18] <soulrider> does anyone know of a fast CLI command to see how much free space i have in my partitions ?
[12:19] <freyelise> trying to go to that ip kikoman suggested
[12:19] <soulrider> freyelise: what are you trying to config ?
[12:19] <soulrider> freyelise: for DSL do
[12:19] <BluesKaj> what kind of service do you have dialup or DSL ?
[12:19] <soulrider> sudo pppoeconf - in a console
[12:20] <soulrider> yes, << sudo pppoeconf >> will let you configure your DSL connection
[12:20] <freyelise> so, i just finished installing and trying to figure out how to set up my connection, i got my login info at hand, just need to figure where to type them
[12:20] <freyelise> ok, i'll try that
[12:22] <tuzlo> I have Kaffeine installed on Kubuntu. It wont play a disk but returns the following error. http://pastebin.ca/414230 Am I missing a plugin or something?
[12:23] <freyelise> i'll need to disconnect the net cable from this lappy to try make it work, thanks for the info though, i think i'll manage from here
[12:29] <ScarFreewill> can some one help me to run teamspeak with alsa?
[12:30] <kikoman> are you playing AA?
[12:31] <ScarFreewill> no i've got the worst internet in the world
[12:32] <ScarFreewill>  /dev/dsp is what its set to atm
[12:32] <ScarFreewill> !dsp
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <frey> just popped to say it worked :)
[12:38] <peaker> hey, how come "kdesu ls /dev" shows an incomplete listing, while "sudo ls /dev" shows them all?
[12:38] <peaker> I am asking cause I can't get some root command to work with kdesu, but it does work with sude
[12:38] <peaker> sudo
[12:39] <aaroncampbell> What RAID cards work well with (K)ubuntu?
[12:39] <coty> !ipv6
[12:39] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:40] <eilker> add to blacklist :D
[12:40] <coty> that bot is always there when i need it L)
[12:41] <eilker> it knows too much :D
[12:42] <coty> lol
[12:42] <coty> yea
[12:42] <coty> its great
[12:42] <coty> who here deserves a bot snack
[12:43] <coty> !botsnack
[12:43] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:43] <coty> good girl
[12:49] <Nullbyte> Hey, how do I change the default program that I rip CDs with?
[12:50] <eilker> !ice > eilker
[12:51] <N6REJ> hey guys, have a probably dumb question, but....
[12:51] <Nullbyte> Go on
[12:51] <N6REJ> if hal says "DHCI USB 1.1" that means the usb controller is a usb 1.1?
[12:51] <iMilad>  windows puts ... for files with long names. is it possible to do the same in linux?
[12:51] <Nullbyte> Yep, N6REJ
[12:52] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: was afraid of that, ok, next part of dumb q LOL If I put a usb 2.x external hub on that port will that satisfy any 2.x requirements a device mighthave?
[12:52] <Nullbyte> Well, I guess it will. But it will be at 1.1 speed though, N6REJ
[12:53] <coty> !ipv6 > coty
[12:53] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: hmmmmmmm .... I've got a logitech webcam, and its only partially seeing it.  I'm wondering if its because its a 1.1 usb hub on the mb, or what.  I THOUGHT this mb was 2.x
[12:53] <N6REJ> K8V-X
[12:54] <Nullbyte> I have no idea about that, I dont really know much about USB, N6REJ
[12:55] <N6REJ> me neither, other then it beats straight serial to heck
[12:56] <N6REJ> ok, now this is really strange... the specs say its a 2.0 hub.
[12:56] <N6REJ> let me check my manual if I can find it.
[12:57] <N6REJ> yep says right on the box "usb 2.0"
[12:58] <Nullbyte> I guess it means that it supports 2.0
[12:58] <Nullbyte> Not that it requires it
[12:58] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: no, I mean the motherboard says that it has 8 usb 2.0 port
[12:58] <Nullbyte> Oh.
[12:58] <N6REJ> but hal is saying I have 1.1
[12:58] <N6REJ> :(
[12:58] <Nullbyte> o_
[12:59] <philfo1> N6REJ, did you get GIMPshop installed?
[12:59] <Nullbyte> I prefer photoshop :>
[12:59] <N6REJ> philfo1: nope, not yet, got sidetracked with other stuff
[12:59] <philfo1> right, right
[12:59] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: yeah, but how to get ph on kubuntu?
[12:59] <N6REJ> ps even
[12:59] <N6REJ> *sigh*
[12:59] <Nullbyte> Install wine?
[12:59] <kgx0> hey. does any know how i can quickly find out whats running on what port
[12:59] <philfo1> gots some questions...
[12:59] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: really???
[12:59] <Nullbyte> It runs perfect, no need to do anything fancy
[12:59] <Nullbyte> Yeah
[12:59] <N6REJ> NO WAY
[12:59] <Nullbyte> Well
[01:00] <ubuntu> I need some help undoing xorg fixes that went out last night
[01:00] <Nullbyte> version 7.0 does
[01:00] <Nullbyte> I dont need cs2 or 3, its just bloat
[01:00] <N6REJ> hmmmmm trying to remember diff between cs2 and 7
[01:00] <philfo1> does PS CS run in Wine?
[01:00] <Nullbyte> Dunno, but 7.0 runs really fast
[01:00] <N6REJ> OMG
[01:00] <philfo1> oh my, the difference is the world N6
[01:00] <N6REJ> philfo1: between 7 and cs2?
[01:01] <philfo1> yup
[01:01] <N6REJ> mmmmmmmm
[01:01] <tmbg> what's wrong w/ gimp?
[01:01] <N6REJ> philfo1: well, all we can do is try
[01:01] <philfo1> 7 will always run faster, but has less power for manipulation
[01:01] <N6REJ> ah
[01:01] <Nullbyte> I just prefer working in photoshop, theres nothing wrong with the gimp at all
[01:01] <philfo1> because in CS2 you are forced to use the Bridge which takes up a TON of memory
[01:02] <philfo1> it's all about workflow.  I'm used to PS as well, but have to get used to the Gimp now until I can get CS to run
[01:02] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: wanna help us get wine going?
[01:02] <Nullbyte> Well, I dont mind doing that
[01:02] <Nullbyte> But theres instructions on winehq.org
[01:02] <N6REJ> philfo1: you game for some wine?
[01:03] <philfo1> sure I'd love to see if I can run CS on my machine
[01:03] <Nullbyte> Check the wine appdb
[01:03] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: you don't know my luck this week.  I'm not even sure I've got samba yet cause I can't see it but it seems to be functioing I THINK.
[01:03] <Nullbyte> I dont know anything about Samba, sorry x)
[01:04] <Nullbyte> Trying to figure it out as well
[01:04] <N6REJ> makes more then one of us.
[01:04] <coty> does anyone know what apps i should try
[01:04] <N6REJ> well I can tell you that I can now type smbclient -L driftwood ( which is name of server ) and it comes back right... couldn't do that before today
[01:04] <orange1> c0nv1ct: u there?
[01:04] <c0nv1ct> ya
[01:04] <N6REJ> philfo1: you checking the list?
[01:05] <Nullbyte> It seems to run semi well
[01:05] <soulrider> is there a way to install dependencies of a program but not he program itself ?
[01:05] <Haz> hey guys, what's the command to update the locate database?
[01:05] <coty> could someone tell me about some good programs for kubuntu
[01:06] <philfo1> nope.
[01:06] <philfo1> hold on
[01:06] <N6REJ> k
[01:06] <Nullbyte> Well yeah, coty
[01:06] <Nullbyte> What do you need?
[01:06] <coty> k
[01:06] <coty> just want something that you guys find cool
[01:06] <Nullbyte> WINE
[01:07] <Nullbyte> is horribly cool
[01:07] <coty> got it
[01:07] <eilker> haz: sudo updatedb ?
[01:07] <Haz> that's it--thanks!
[01:07] <philfo1> what are you looking for coty?
[01:07] <eilker> np
[01:07] <Nullbyte> dvd::rip?
[01:07] <coty> philfo1: nothing just some software that you guys like
[01:07] <N6REJ> hahahah, wife called me like she frequently does, and said "will you wake me in an hour?"  Well I always forget so installed "teatime" and so she just called and I said "sure let me get my teatimer out and set it to cook some "nap tea", she said, "uhh...??... 0_^ ok?"
[01:07] <N6REJ> LOL
[01:07] <coty> since there is so much
[01:08] <philfo1> ha ha hah
[01:08] <Nullbyte> XD N6
[01:08] <coty> i like wine
[01:08] <Nullbyte> So do I
[01:08] <Nullbyte> Runs most of my windows stuff better than windows itself
[01:08] <N6REJ> lol
[01:08] <coty> I dont know about that
[01:08] <coty> it seemed glitchy on one of my programs
[01:08] <N6REJ> coty: Nullbyte has offered a wine 102 course tonight
[01:09] <Nullbyte> x)
[01:09] <N6REJ> :P
[01:09] <Nullbyte> coty, did you check the appdb? Theres usually fixes in there if it only works partially
[01:09] <Arwen> wow, feisty is sweet!
[01:09] <Arwen> and I don't even need GART memory anymore
[01:09] <Nullbyte> It is, Arwen?
[01:10] <Nullbyte> Arwen: oo
[01:10] <Arwen> Nullbyte, mostly for the bugfixes :-\
[01:10] <coty> i want to instal feisty
[01:10] <Arwen> if you don't have problems, you probably won't see it
[01:10] <Nullbyte> coty: Wait until its finished :)
[01:10] <coty> i want to do that upgrade that does not requre a cd
[01:10] <Nullbyte> Arwen: Fair :)
[01:10] <Nullbyte> coty: Wait until its released!
[01:10] <coty> ok
[01:10] <philfo1> http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=graphics
[01:10] <coty> well what about 6.10
[01:10] <Nullbyte> Mm?
[01:11] <Arwen> coty, you want feisty? :-)
[01:11] <coty> i would like to update but i dont have a burner
[01:11] <coty> yes
[01:11] <philfo1> oh my, most of the Adobe suite from last year is in there
[01:11] <Arwen> how fast's your internet connection?
[01:11] <Nullbyte> Well you could download the image and mount it :
[01:11] <Nullbyte> :P
[01:11] <coty> mount it?
[01:11] <coty> were
[01:11] <coty> why
[01:11] <Arwen> coty, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[01:11] <Nullbyte> in /media, together with all your other mounted stuff?
[01:12] <Arwen> you can do the entire dist-upgrade without touching any kind of cd
[01:12] <Arwen> Nullbyte, cmon, mounting an ubuntu iso is pointless
[01:12] <coty> ok i will do that
[01:12] <coty> is it safe to mount
[01:12] <Nullbyte> Arwen: It is
[01:12] <coty> and install
[01:12] <Arwen> also, /mnt is for mounted fs....
[01:12] <Arwen> coty, na, forget the mounting, you'll just waste bandwidth, follow the instructions at the link
[01:12] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: did you comment out the wacom devices?  I don't even have any of them.
[01:12] <Nullbyte> Arwen: I use that too, but KDE tends to put stuff in /media you see.
[01:12] <Arwen> should work, but if it doesn't, you'll need to reinstall
[01:12] <coty> ok
[01:13] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: Removed them all when I tried to fix up my ATI card, yes
[01:13] <coty> reinstalling is no problem
[01:13] <coty> is feisty good
[01:13] <Arwen> chance of success goes up as your amount of third-party junk goes down
[01:13] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: ok, thats going to be the first step
[01:13] <N6REJ> philfo1: so what do you think?
[01:13] <Arwen> coty, it's an improvement, for people with ati cards, YES, for people with nvidia cards, yes, and for everyone else, maybe
[01:13] <philfo1> wine looks good cause it runs CS.
[01:13] <coty> cool
[01:13] <philfo1> not CS2 yet though
[01:14] <pagan0ne> anyone have any suggestions on software to use for recording audio and video from a soundcard and webcam like windows MovieMaker?
[01:14] <coty> now i just have to figure out how to do this
[01:14] <Nullbyte> You want to make a movie with your webcam? X_X
[01:14] <pagan0ne> Nullbyte: i want to record a small avi or mpg file
[01:14] <philfo1> how about Adobe just releases the port for Linux.
[01:14] <N6REJ> amen!
[01:14] <Nullbyte> philfo1: How about Adobe just hates linux
[01:15] <Nullbyte> pagan0ne: Just a second :)
[01:15] <pagan0ne> ok
[01:15] <philfo1> then there would be no reason to have windows at all!  : )
[01:15] <coty> adobe hates linux?
[01:15] <N6REJ> philfo1: :D
[01:15] <N6REJ> coty: no!
[01:15] <coty> oh
[01:15] <coty> good because no one should but microsoft
[01:15] <Nullbyte> Heh
[01:15] <philfo1> well, there is definitely pressure from MS to keep Adobe from going Linux friendly
[01:15] <N6REJ> adobe released adobe reader for *nix native
[01:15] <Arwen> Adobe isn't particularly linux-friendly, but they don't "hate" Linux
[01:15] <N6REJ> philfo1: yep
[01:15] <Nullbyte> I dont think they hate us either, but they dont develop stuff for linux at all
[01:16] <Arwen> they have all their readers, players, etc for linux but none of their dev tools
[01:16] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: thats not true ^^
[01:16] <drew__> hey everytime i try to run this one shell it never starts
[01:16] <N6REJ> Arwen: right
[01:16] <coty> is it because linux is all about free and sharing
[01:16] <coty> and not greed
[01:16] <N6REJ> drew__: do yo uhave the shell installed?
[01:16] <Arwen> N6REJ, because they want to expand without any actual effort :-\
[01:16] <Nullbyte> Whatever :p
[01:16] <N6REJ> drew__: is it in the usable shells file
[01:16] <drew__> im trying to
[01:16] <philfo1> adobe reader HAD to be released to just capitalize on the little bit of the market that Linux users represent
[01:16] <N6REJ> philfo1: yep...
[01:16] <drew__> how do i move ti to usable shells?
[01:17] <Arwen> philfo1, think about it, Acrobat itself isn't out for Linux
[01:17] <philfo1> the new thing is that mocrosoft is pushing the HD file format over the JPEG
[01:17] <Arwen> see the logic?
[01:17] <N6REJ> hmmm you dont' you just add it if I recall
[01:17] <coty> Does adobe charge?
[01:17] <philfo1> yup
[01:17] <Arwen> philfo1, HD over JPEG????
[01:17] <philfo1> just reader
[01:17] <Arwen> that makes no sense
[01:17] <philfo1> exactly
[01:17] <Arwen> HD is video, JPEG is images, I'm lost
[01:17] <Arwen> do you mean MPEG?
[01:17] <philfo1> nope
[01:17] <drew__> evry time i run my mobo speaker gives a null comand fo it
[01:18] <coty> how do i compile my work in kdevelop
[01:19] <N6REJ> philfo1: u using the wacom?
[01:19] <Nullbyte> pagan0ne: Try getting camstream
[01:19] <philfo1> I'm supern00b right now, so while you guys do the helping, i'm going to lurk & learn something
[01:19] <drew__> k i am a complete n00b so i really need help
[01:19] <philfo1> no
[01:19] <philfo1> wacom?
[01:19] <chijin> coty: i suggest you start reading some guides, there are plenty of good ones on the web about ubuntu in general
[01:19] <pagan0ne> N6REJ: i have it, how do i record?
[01:19] <coty> ok
[01:19] <pagan0ne> err
[01:19] <N6REJ> k, lets ( writing tablet )  lets remove them from xorg.conf ( services section )
[01:19] <pagan0ne> Nullbyte: i have it, how do i record
[01:19] <Nullbyte> pagan0ne: Did you read the manpage?
[01:20] <Nullbyte> pagan0ne: I dont know how it works, but it looks promising :)
[01:20] <drew__> i cant run the jahshaka.sh. What should i do?
[01:20] <pagan0ne> Nullbyte: only thing it seems to do to me, is save images not video from a webcam, and nothing to do with audio
[01:21] <Nullbyte> pagan0ne: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu? Maybe they know more about this :)
[01:21] <pagan0ne> Nullbyte: thanks for directing me to a place where i may get more help, i havent tried that yet
[01:21] <Nullbyte> pagan0ne: You are welcome :)
[01:21] <N6REJ> null can I comment them out from input device type also?
[01:22] <drew__> its an ubuntu installer tho, but it never runs
[01:22] <Arwen> lol, Ubuntu's wine comes with minesweeper!
[01:22] <Arwen> w00t
[01:22] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: What do you mean?
 u r looking for ?
[01:23] <philfo1> I've had a similar problem lately with a few things drew__.  it may be running in the background so won't run itself as a duplicate
[01:23] <drew__> oh, but its a video editor
[01:23] <pagan0ne> eilker: a ay to record video and audio off my webcam and soundcard....
[01:23] <philfo1> run top and see if it's running
[01:23] <drew__> and i ran thru the script and it propts for install
[01:23] <orange1> my algebra is really slacking - someone answer a quick question for me -- so i can finish this program -- whats the combined version of (a+bi)(a+bi)     (i = imaginary)
[01:23] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: neither philfo1 nor I have any wacom devices that we are aware of.  infact I've seen ubuntu complain about it.  SO wine says to # the wacom section of server layout but I also noticed them in devices section.  So should we comment out hose areas also?
[01:24] <eilker> !istanbul > pagan0ne
[01:24] <eilker> !xvidvap > pagan0ne
[01:24] <eilker> !recordmydesktop > pagan0ne
[01:24] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: Yeah, I guess you should. I completely removed them, but I shouldnt really have done that.
[01:24] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: all references?
[01:25] <philfo1> phone
[01:25] <N6REJ> cc
[01:25] <philfo1> back in a bit
[01:25] <N6REJ> k
[01:25] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: Yeah. If anything screws up, you can always uncomment it again :)
[01:25] <N6REJ> cc
[01:25] <N6REJ> brb
[01:25] <aaroncampbell> I am having a strange problem.  Firefox can access ubuntuforums.org, but not Google.com.  However, konqueror can access both
[01:25] <aaroncampbell> any ideas?
[01:25] <Nullbyte> aaroncampbell: o_ What error does firefox give?
[01:26] <drew__> i checked my backround tasks its not running
[01:26] <Arwen> whoa, beryl is way faster in Feisty, YAY
[01:26] <aaroncampbell> It acts like the site doesn't exist....it tries for a while, and goes to "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.google.com."
[01:27] <philfo1> I've got no clue then.  I had a similar problem with ly first install
[01:27] <varejao> Portugal?
[01:27] <drew__> k
[01:27] <drew__> i might be running it wrong
[01:27] <drew__> whats the command for a shell?
[01:27] <N6REJ> philfo1: query
[01:28] <BluesKaj> !pt
[01:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:28] <Nullbyte> drew__: its sh
[01:28] <N6REJ> philfo1: don't change your xorg.conf yet.
[01:28] <Nullbyte> drew__: Are you running it in a terminal?
[01:28] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: I think we are ok without changing it.
[01:29] <drew__> trying to
[01:29] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: inputdevice never calls the wacom
[01:29] <drew__> and in commandline out of kate
[01:29] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: It shouldnt be a problem either, but comment it out if it causes problems
[01:29] <philfo1> give me the commandline to register again.  I am now philfo1 on my new install
[01:29] <N6REJ> cc
[01:29] <Nullbyte> drew__: Is it executeable?
[01:30] <N6REJ> bah
[01:30] <Nullbyte> drew__: write chmod +x nameoffile
[01:30] <drew__> oh crap
[01:30] <N6REJ> BAH
[01:30] <philfo1> drew__ ???
[01:30] <N6REJ> "/msg"
[01:31] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: Why are you saying cc all the time?
[01:31] <drew__> i have write permisson turned off
[01:31] <N6REJ> cc= Carbon Copy
[01:31] <Nullbyte> drew__: write sudo chmod +x nameoffile
[01:32] <N6REJ> or CC = Credit Card :P
[01:32] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: ^^
[01:32] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: What is that exactly? :)
[01:32] <drew__> how do i turn write permisson on?
[01:33] <N6REJ> drew for what exactly?
[01:33] <philfo1> sudo before your command
[01:33] <drew__> i did
[01:33] <Nullbyte> didnt that work?
[01:33] <brian__> hello
[01:33] <N6REJ> philfo1: almost
[01:33] <drew__> still says write permisson off
[01:33] <Nullbyte> brian__: Hello to you too
[01:33] <brian__> thanks
[01:33] <Nullbyte> drew__: Where is the file located?
[01:33] <N6REJ> drew__: what are you try to do?
[01:33] <drew__> desktop
[01:33] <Nullbyte> drew__: o_
[01:33] <drew__> run a shl for the scond time
[01:33] <N6REJ> drew what shel?
[01:34] <drew__> jahshaka
[01:34] <N6REJ> !jahshaka
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jahshaka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <N6REJ> drew__: have you added it to /etc/shells?
[01:34] <philfo1> netiphite.  from the etymology of the made up word it should read as someone who has been on the intarweb for far long than cool people would admit
[01:34] <Nullbyte> oo.
[01:34] <brian__> anyone here have problems with apt-get?
[01:34] <Nullbyte> How long would that be?
[01:34] <N6REJ> philfo1: amen!
[01:34] <Nullbyte> brian__: Not really, whats wrong?
[01:34] <philfo1> ha ha ha ha
[01:34] <N6REJ> brian__: nope
[01:35] <N6REJ>  for far long than cool people would admit
[01:35] <brian__> trying to get mozila mplayer
[01:35] <N6REJ> lol
[01:35] <brian__> i use sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer....then it returns with no install package error
[01:36] <Nullbyte> brian__: Did you write sudo apt-get or just apt-get?
[01:36] <N6REJ> stupid stupid konversation didn't register me
[01:36] <brian__> the whole thing
[01:36] <drew__> the shels folder is .ssh rite?
[01:36] <N6REJ> brian__:  sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[01:36] <Nullbyte> drew__: Nay, it is not.
[01:36] <N6REJ> drew__: let me look I don't think so.
[01:36] <Nullbyte> drew__: Tell me exactly what you are trying to do and how.
[01:37] <brian__> okay- got it
[01:37] <drew__> run a installer shell
[01:37] <N6REJ> OH!
[01:37] <drew__> dont know how
[01:37] <Nullbyte> drew__: Are you running it in a terminal?
[01:37] <Dragoonboy> hi, anyone here able to help with a mesa driver problem?
[01:37] <drew__> yeah
[01:37] <brian__> yes, in terminal
[01:37] <drew__> and it just gives me a batch of unknowns
[01:38] <drew__> and that null ping
[01:38] <philfo1> ok, while we're talking about computer issues...  how do I find if kubuntu is seeing my ATI graphics card?
[01:38] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: he may not have build-essentials or any of that installed
[01:38] <carutsu> !ask|Dragoonboy
[01:38] <ubotu> Dragoonboy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:38] <N6REJ> philfo1: darn, I knew this yesterday... let me look
[01:38] <philfo1> thx
[01:38] <N6REJ> philfo1: "glxinfo | grep "vendor" "
[01:38] <N6REJ> leave out the first and last " of course
[01:39] <philfo1> thanks
[01:39] <N6REJ> np
[01:39] <drew__> okay to build this i need qhat builder?
[01:39] <N6REJ> if it is all the lines will say "ati"
[01:39] <carutsu> !g++>carutsu
[01:39] <BluesKaj> philfo1, system settings/monitor&display/hardware /admin mode/graphics card configure , then monitor configure, apply
[01:39] <N6REJ> heya blues
[01:39] <soulrider> is there any way to add a CD full of .deb files as a repo ? so apt-get cna look for updates there
[01:39] <hendaus> somebody help me pleasae?>
[01:39] <BluesKaj> hi N6REJ, what's shakin" ?
[01:39] <Nullbyte> drew__: I am not sure how it works
[01:39] <Dragoonboy> ok, im trying to install beryl, however I can not get the mesa drivers unloaded. the ATI drivers do work with xfce. xgl will not run due to some obscure refrence to Xfree86 DRI.  am using feisty...
[01:39] <drew__> can beryl run on a intergrated chipset?
[01:40] <Nullbyte> hendaus: We cant help you before you ask the question.
[01:40] <N6REJ> !wine
[01:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:40] <soulrider> #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[01:40] <Dragoonboy> ah, thanks
[01:40] <philfo1> ok, using "glxinfo | grep "vendor" " I got a libgl warning that 3d driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[01:40] <brian__> PITA
[01:40] <BluesKaj> N6REJ, do you run windows stuff in wine ?
[01:40] <drew__> yes
[01:40] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: not yet goig to
[01:41] <philfo1> BluesKaj: bash:system command not found
[01:41] <hendaus> Nullbyte,  thanx,everytime when i open amsn messenger it needs to update it,can u help me how to update it coz i am Newbie
[01:41] <brian__> that did not fix my mozilla mplayer problem
[01:41] <drew__> k i need help runnin this shl still
[01:42] <drew__> its an installer shell
[01:42] <N6REJ> philfo1: what are you trying to do in bash?
[01:42] <Nullbyte> What terminal are you using, drew__?
[01:42] <drew__> konsole
[01:42] <brian__> i'm trying to view www.ytmnd.com media
[01:42] <BluesKaj> wondering about putting Kubuntu on wifes pc ...but she has this windows Solitaire game that she just simply ' luuuvs' and I'm wondering if I could install it .
[01:42] <Nullbyte> drew__: And what do you write to run it?
[01:42] <philfo1> I tried to run this:  "system settings/monitor&display/hardware /admin mode/graphics card configure , then monitor configure, apply"
[01:42] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: dunno
[01:42] <drew__> chmod
[01:42] <philfo1> I want my ATI GC running
[01:43] <brian__> i can view, listen to most media, but some, it asks me for plug-ins
[01:43] <Nullbyte> BluesKaj: Just copy it over if you really need it, and run it in wine. There are much better card games for linux anyway :p
[01:43] <N6REJ> philfo1: thast not bash
[01:43] <philfo1> I think I need a proper driver
[01:43] <N6REJ> thast kde!
[01:43] <carutsu> BluesKaj most likely you may run it under wine
[01:43] <N6REJ> philfo1: what did glx say?
[01:43] <carutsu> wine!|BluesKaj
[01:43] <BluesKaj> yeah N6REJ, just thinking out loud ATM :)
[01:43] <Nullbyte> !ati > philfo1
[01:43] <carutsu> !wine|BluesKaj
[01:43] <ubotu> BluesKaj: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:44] <philfo1> thanks null
[01:44] <brian__> try www.ytmnd.com
[01:44] <drew__> heys i still need help tho
[01:44] <philfo1> back in a bit
[01:44] <drew__> k    what other command will let me run it?
[01:44] <Nullbyte> philfo1: You are welcome.
[01:44] <BluesKaj> thx carutsu, I'm very aware of wine , AAMOF I have it installed :)
[01:44] <carutsu> BluesKaj: however if its a classic game a replacemetn, most likely will be avalible in the repostories
[01:44] <hendaus> helpers!!,everytime when i open amsn messenger it needs to update it,can u help me coz i am Newbie
[01:45] <carutsu> BluesKaj: oh, well, so what's the question
[01:45] <carutsu> er
[01:45] <carutsu> hendaus, because you installed from the repostories, it wants the newer vertion
[01:45] <hendaus> carutsu,  how can i got the new version?
[01:46] <carutsu> hendaus: you either click "dont remind me or something like that" or download it from the the "oficial" web, which will install it in auto-package
[01:46] <carutsu> hendaus: *with auto
[01:46] <BluesKaj> well wondering about "Pretty good Solitaire" ...wife actually "bought" the game :)
[01:46] <carutsu> hendaus: http://amsn-project.net
[01:47] <hendaus> carutsu,  i am NEwbie friend can u please tell me how to install it
[01:47] <N6REJ> Nullbyte: why is winehq telling me there is no gpg for the package?
[01:47] <hendaus> carutsu,  and tell me where is the setup file to download?
[01:48] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: You didnt install the gpg key. Did you read the instructions?
[01:48] <N6REJ> where?
[01:48] <N6REJ> phone
[01:48] <Nullbyte> N6REJ: Wait, what package are we talking about?
[01:48] <N6REJ> wine
[01:48] <Nullbyte> Right
[01:48] <carutsu> hendaus: just open the link see the big flashy DOWNLOAD, click on it
[01:48] <Nullbyte> So why should winehq say there isnt a gpg key?
[01:49] <drew__> how do i turn write permisson on?
[01:49] <Nullbyte> drew__: chmod +rw
[01:49] <Nullbyte> http://winehq.org/site/download-deb <-- has all you need to know, N6REJ
[01:49] <carutsu> hendaus: since you already installed aMSN all the dependencies are already downloaded, so just uninstal aMSN, download the installer, give it run permisions (right click and check the allow runing...)
[01:50] <carutsu> hendaus: and run it, no big deal trust me
[01:50] <hendaus> carutsu,  there are generic installer and  debian gentoo ubuntu... which one
[01:50] <drew__> it tells me that it dosent exist when it very well does!
[01:50] <Porkotron> !freenx
[01:50] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:50] <Nullbyte> drew__: Did you spell the filename properly?
[01:51] <Nullbyte> drew__: Its case sensitive you know.
[01:51] <drew__> il try retyping
[01:51] <carutsu> hendaus: ubuntu
[01:51] <Nullbyte> drew__: I would say its easier to use a * instead of writing the whole name
[01:51] <brian__> hey, anyone come across FireFox sayin  no Suitable Plugin were found. when trying to view flash type media?
[01:52] <Nullbyte> brian__: If it is shockwave, there is no support for it on linux, sorry.
[01:52] <hendaus> carutsu,  i dont know how to uninstall programs, on windows you can update it when i click on the installer file
[01:52] <carutsu> hendaus: no, no, no, that's the packages that are avalible on those distributions
[01:52] <drew__> try running shockwave in wine
[01:52] <carutsu> hendaus: you have to download the first one, that's the autopackage
[01:53] <brian__> get Wine, then shockwave...
[01:53] <drew__> thnk you
[01:53] <drew__> now to TRY to run it
[01:53] <carutsu> hendaus: see, distribution independent
[01:54] <brian__> package Wine has no installation candidate
[01:54] <carutsu> hendaus: what's goin on?
[01:54] <drew__> write permisson it turned off AGAIN!
[01:54] <brian__> i get that on all my sudo apt=get sessions
[01:54] <hendaus> carutsu,  it says there 82 packeges available
[01:54] <hendaus> carutsu,  it says there 82 updated packeges available
[01:55] <drew__> well run em
[01:55] <brian__> hmm?
[01:55] <carutsu> hendaus: er where are you?
[01:56] <hendaus> carutsu,  you told me on the icon beside the clock where it says updated packages
[01:57] <philfo1> ok, ATI GC is running now.  the computer just keeps getting faster.
[01:57] <hendaus> carutsu,  sorry i am newbie on kubuntu and i want to know how to install a program
[01:57] <carutsu> hendaus: nop, i told you the distribution independant package
[01:57] <carutsu> hendaus: download this: http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/amsn/amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package
[01:57] <brian__> i'm stuck with this thing saying no installation candidate
[01:58] <carutsu> hendaus: since kubuntu/ubuntu are so popular, mostly of the time you wouldn't have to worrie about this, it'll be avalible for download on the repostories, but of course mostly of the time is not the  newest version
[02:00] <drew__> okay, im still having trubble with this pakage
[02:00] <drew__> sorry shell
[02:00] <drew__> how od i run an installer shell?
[02:01] <brian__> everytime i try to use sudo apt-get install... it says couldn't find installation candidate
[02:01] <brian__> what is the cause?
[02:02] <philfo1> ok, in order to use the man pages, I STILL need to know just what it is I'm looking for.  a bit of a frustration.
[02:02] <hendaus> carutsu, ok done from the site, now it opens with kate,what can i do now
[02:02] <philfo1> I want to start at the b eginning.
[02:03] <carutsu> hendaus: don't open it with kate
[02:03] <cmorrison> newbie here...ne1 install the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 with Kubuntu?
[02:03] <hendaus> carutsu,  it opens auto with it
[02:03] <philfo1> belay my last
[02:03] <carutsu> hendaus: i know. close it and right click on the file
[02:03] <carutsu> hendaus: click properties
[02:04] <carutsu> hendaus: click in permissions, click is executable, then ok
[02:04] <carutsu> then open it again
[02:04] <cmorrison> and get all the functions to work?
[02:04] <N6REJ> somenoe rang?
[02:05] <philfo1> na' me
[02:05] <carutsu> hendaus: it's for safe, not everything should be executable unless YOU want to
[02:05] <N6REJ> philfo1: don't let me fall behind please in a conference in skype
[02:05] <hendaus> carutsu,  i cant found it
[02:06] <drew__> every time i try to run an install shell it dosent run
[02:06] <drew__> #bash./home/drew/desktop/jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh
[02:06] <coty> ok im taking an attempt at upgrading
[02:06] <coty> it's kind of confusing
[02:06] <drew__> should be the command but it dosent run
[02:06] <philfo1> oh, I'm not paying attention anymore, sorry.  I got sidetracked by the graphics card and now I'm figuring out man pages
[02:06] <carutsu> hendaus: err i'm not on an english KDE so should be something like that, you are using kubuntu right?
[02:06] <philfo1> and pizza is calling my name.
[02:06] <hendaus> carutsu,  yes
[02:07] <carutsu> hendaus: what's exactly what you dont find?
[02:07] <coty> has anyone upgraded with the method with out the cd
[02:07] <drew__> yes just run adpt click on full install
[02:07] <carutsu> coty i tried, and didn't work
[02:07] <hendaus> carutsu,  i click on the link that u gave me,it opens with kate and then i close it
[02:07] <coty> its so confusing
[02:08] <coty> why cant they just make a programe just for upgrading
[02:08] <carutsu> hendaus, ok, ok mmm, dont click the link then, go to the site again
[02:08] <hendaus> carutsu,  ok
[02:08] <carutsu> http://amsn-project.net, click in the download icon, do you see the big blue package
[02:08] <philfo1> wouldn't coty have to drop the iso file to one drive, set BIOS to boot that drive first, boot up THEN do the install on another drive?
[02:08] <hendaus> carutsu,  yes
[02:09] <brian__> this is a PITA
[02:09] <kelsa|martalli> coty They do have a program, but it requires the CLI probably for a good reason
[02:09] <N6REJ> philfo1: hangon ati shouldn't be that hard
[02:09] <coty> oh
[02:09] <philfo1> whoa, whoa!
[02:09] <carutsu> hendaus: that's the installer, right click on it and click on "save link as..."
[02:09] <kelsa|martalli> If you can't get into the CLI, you probably don't want to do an upgrade (esp since it may ver well break your X)
[02:09] <philfo1> N6REJ, I'm done with the ATI
[02:09] <coty> so would it work if i did put the iso on one of my drives and booted from it
[02:09] <phr0z3n> hmm... where is xchat in adept? :-/ not xchat-gnome
[02:09] <philfo1> in theory
[02:09] <N6REJ> philfo1: oh ok.. I'll shut up I'm on skype anyway
[02:09] <carutsu> hendaus: or something like that, remember i dont use KDE on english
[02:10] <N6REJ> philfo1: restart x and then run the glxinfo command again
[02:10] <philfo1> you'd be using your alternate drive as a "CD" boot device
[02:10] <philfo1> ah right.  thanks N^
[02:10] <philfo1> n6
[02:10] <philfo1> bah!
[02:10] <philfo1> back in a few
[02:11] <hendaus> carutsu,  so u have kde on what?
[02:11] <carutsu> hendaus: spanish
[02:12] <hendaus> carutsu,  asi me parace mucho mejor
[02:12] <hendaus> parece*
[02:12] <carutsu> hendaus: let's go to #kde-es
[02:12] <brian__> how is best way to manage repositories?
[02:12] <hendaus> ok
[02:13] <neil> hey guys, how do i change my default browser?
[02:14] <neil> links in irc open in konqueror not firefox...
[02:14] <philfo1> N6REJ: what do I do with this info now?
[02:14] <N6REJ> philfo1: glxinfo | grep "vendor"
[02:14] <N6REJ> make sure that all 3 lines say ATI
[02:15] <philfo1> nope
[02:15] <N6REJ> any of the?
[02:15] <N6REJ> them?
[02:15] <philfo1> SGI, ATI, Tungsten Graphics
[02:15] <N6REJ> restart your pc
[02:15] <philfo1> thanks
[02:15] <N6REJ> np
[02:15] <philfo1> back in a few
[02:15] <N6REJ> k
[02:15] <coty> Is there anothe linux out there that lets you install it without the cd
[02:16] <brian__> couldn't find mozilla-mplayer...what is going on with that
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> brian__: do you have universe installed
[02:17] <brian__> not sure, well i enabled them all meta, universe
[02:17] <neil> anyone know how to change the default browser in (k)ubuntu?
[02:18] <Morbo> kmenu -> system settings -> default applications, neil
[02:18] <brian__> Admiral...just a sec...
[02:19] <brian__> the updates are coming in...:)
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> that should do it
[02:26] <philfo1> N6REJ: still STI, ATI, Tungsten Graphics
[02:27] <N6REJ> then someting is wrong
[02:27] <philfo1> bah!
[02:28] <philfo1> perhaps I'll have to do the card specific driver install
[02:28] <N6REJ> philfo1: yes, thats the best
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> hey.... just tried out fiesty...
[02:28] <philfo1> should I get that off of my CD?  or just go through the website?
[02:29] <philfo1> I need to find out which version it is.
[02:29] <philfo1> N6, you still doing the Wine install?
[02:30] <N6REJ> philfo1: yes but I'm waiting on you too
[02:30] <philfo1> I haven't even started!  sorry!  I was trying to keep up, but you guys lost me (and the traffic coming through didn't help) right after the beginning.
[02:30] <N6REJ> philfo1: can > you get me a copy of cs, my key to my pirated copy and its mate is gone!  I hate to admit it but I don't own a recent verion of ps
[02:31] <philfo1> neither do I
[02:31] <N6REJ> philfo1: np, I'm only at the beginning.
[02:31] <N6REJ> LOL
[02:31] <N6REJ> I can tell you the directions are stupid.
[02:31] <brian__> http://makeyourownscientologyfad.ytmnd.com/
[02:31] <philfo1> in fact I'm not sure how an illegal install will work in Wine.  that's been a topic of discussion at work
[02:32] <N6REJ> they tell you AFTER you've done things how to do it right
[02:32] <brian__> i can't get audio on this site
[02:32] <philfo1> right.
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> brian__: is it flash?
[02:32] <brian__> i think so
[02:32] <philfo1> is there a way right now to detect which radeon version card I have so I can download the proper driver?
[02:32] <brian__> someone i know got KUBUNTU to load this properly
[02:33] <philfo1> gotcha
[02:33] <philfo1> still not registered for PM's
[02:33] <griphiam> I have what seems like a very basic question... how do I record PCM output???
[02:33] <N6REJ> philfo1: np
[02:34] <carutsu> !IIRC
[02:34] <ubotu> IIRC means "if I remember correctly"
[02:34] <griphiam> I've searched and there seems to be nothing on it
[02:34] <philfo1> this time I'm going to use the old pen & paper to write everything down
[02:34] <N6REJ> rotflmbo!
[02:34] <philfo1> send me that registration command again
[02:34] <eilker> ubotu super ehehe "if I remember correctly"
[02:34] <ubotu> super: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (edgy), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB
[02:34] <N6REJ> philfo1: did you dge tthat phil?
[02:35] <griphiam> even if it was via the command line, I'd take it at this point
[02:35] <carutsu> scuse me is there a way to get code completition in Kate
[02:35] <carutsu> ?
[02:36] <N6REJ> carutsu: plugins?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> yes...
[02:37] <carutsu> N6REJ eh? i didnt know there were plug ins for kate
[02:37] <Jucato> caurkate-plugins
[02:38] <Jucato> carutsu: kate-plugins
[02:38] <carutsu> ok
[02:38] <N6REJ> carutsu: sudo apt-cache search is your friend
[02:39] <hayden__> N6REJ: don't need to sudo when searching ;)
[02:39] <N6REJ> OH
[02:39] <N6REJ> lol
[02:39] <carutsu> apt-cache?
[02:39] <carutsu> i'm installing it
[02:40] <carutsu> xD
[02:41] <carutsu> scuse me i didnt see it when i hadn't installed the plugins so, there are only 4 of them?
[02:42] <phr0z3n> I guess nobody ever figured out if you can actually xchat via adept eh? :-/
[02:42] <Jucato> xchat via adept?
[02:42] <phr0z3n> you know..
[02:43] <Jucato> carutsu: there are two plugin locations in Kate
[02:43] <phr0z3n> the package manager for kubuntu.
[02:43] <Jucato> carutsu: try looking under the Applications -> Plugins
[02:43] <BluesKaj> phr0z3n,  irssi in the terminal
[02:43] <griphiam> does anyone know what item under /dev would map to the audio output?
[02:43] <phr0z3n> ah, irssi FTW then :-P
[02:44] <phr0z3n> too bad all they have is xchat-gnome :-/
[02:44] <phr0z3n> seriouslky, why package that when its kubuntu.
[02:44] <Jucato> !info xchat
[02:44] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[02:44] <Jucato> phr0z3n: what do you mean? Ubuntu and Kubuntu have the same repositories
[02:44] <Jucato> so what Ubuntu has, Kubuntu has too. and vice versa
[02:45] <Jucato> phr0z3n: the plain xchat is found in universe. you'd have to enable it if you haven't yet
[02:45] <phr0z3n> Jucato: oh, my bad :-/
[02:47] <philfo1> question:  when running the GC driver update shown here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  where it says to append lines at the end of a file, is that all in one command line?
[02:48] <carutsu> Jucato: oh there are 2 categories!, thats weird, plugins for editor and for the aplication
[02:48] <neil> how do you change the default browser for handling links in konversation, anyone know? system uses firefox, but konversation uses konqueror >:(
[02:48] <Jucato> carutsu: yes. because the editor part of kate is used not just in kate, as I mentioned in #kde
[02:49] <N6REJ> somehow I don't think I got wine working right.
[02:49] <firephoto> philfo1: just change the proper section of the file to look like they show.
[02:49] <philfo1> they are spaced out over three lines though.
[02:49] <carutsu> JucatoL xD
[02:49] <philfo1> is that three separate commands?
[02:50] <firephoto> philfo1: yes, 3 lines, you mean the composite one right?
[02:50] <philfo1> yup
[02:50] <firephoto> philfo1: yes, you need to open the file with an editor though, kate, nano... with sudo
[02:51] <philfo1> so I do:  "/etc/x11/xorg.conf with the addidtions and run that 3 times?
[02:51] <philfo1> what?  not konsole?
[02:51] <firephoto> philfo1: no,  if you're in a konsole, run 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' then add those lines to the end of the file.
[02:52] <philfo1> gotit.  jsut figured that out.  I was modifying the actual file itself.  thx
[02:54] <carutsu> Jucato: EXCELENT i can say bye to MSVC++
[02:54] <Jucato> :D
[02:55] <carutsu> Jucato just a question if i compile say void main() { cout<<"Hello world"; } under linux, will it run under windows?
[02:55] <philfo1> ok, how to save that file?  ":w" ??
[02:56] <Jucato> carutsu: the executable file itself? I don't think so. but you can recompile the source code on Windows using a standards-compliant compiler (if your code is standards-compliant as well)
[02:57] <carutsu> Jucato i'm not a guru but i think is most likelly is standards-compilant
[02:57] <Jucato> carutsu: for more questions, try #ubuntu-programming or ##c++
[02:57] <carutsu> thank you
[02:58] <eilker> !zorg
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zorg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <Arwen> zorg?
[02:58] <Arwen> !zork
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <Arwen> how can ubotu not know zork????
[02:59] <eilker> arwen: i dont know zork too :D
[03:02] <ari> hello
[03:04] <ari> i just installed VBA express (a game boy emulator) and i wanted to know what games can i play on it and how do i install them !?!
[03:05] <philfo1> firephoto: after i've edited the composite extension, how do I save and exit?
[03:07] <firephoto> philfo1: ctrl+o then enter, then ctrl+x
[03:09] <philfo1> thanks
[03:09] <firephoto> philfo1: you can do the same thing next time (or whenever) by running 'kdesu kate /my/file' from the run dialog (alt+f2)
[03:09] <philfo1> ok, thanks
[03:09] <firephoto> for system files.
[03:10] <firephoto> you lose the sudo or kdesu part for your /home files
[03:11] <BluesKaj> I DL'd a tarbz2 file and untarred it , then I cd to the folder , but ./configure cmnd gives me "./configure: No such file or directory"...what gives, I thought that command was supposed to start installing the file ?
[03:12] <Arwen> BluesKaj, ls the output and pastebin
[03:12] <philfo1> firephoto: ok, still with that page, am I to start X again now or continue running the next command lines?
[03:12] <Arwen> or, ls the dir and then pastebin the output
[03:12] <philfo1> this all just reads really odd & is not very concise
[03:12] <Arwen> BluesKaj, ./configure refers to an automagic script in MOST tarballs, not all
[03:13] <N6REJ> philfo1: you back yet?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ok Arwen, what's the alternative ?
[03:13] <philfo1> i'm still working on the ATI thing
[03:13] <firephoto> philfo1: it looks like you should be good to go if you made it that point following the instructions.
[03:13] <N6REJ> k
[03:13] <firephoto> philfo1: just restart X or reboot the system.
[03:13] <Arwen> BluesKaj, dunno, pastebin a list of the files in there
[03:13] <raffytaffy> i set up TOR and PRIVOXY with azureus and it seems to be working good. i get NAT error during test with someone elses IP ...yet the NAT in the bottom is green heh
[03:13] <philfo1> ok.  I can restart X from konsole, correct?
[03:14] <Arwen> raffytaffy, piping bt through tor is a good way to get banned :-)
[03:14] <N6REJ> firephoto: you know how to samba?
[03:14] <raffytaffy> banned from what?
[03:14] <Arwen> tor
[03:14] <raffytaffy> they can ban you?
[03:14] <firephoto> N6REJ: no.
[03:14] <Arwen> yes
[03:14] <N6REJ> darn
[03:15] <raffytaffy> Arwen: how do u know this? did u get banned?
[03:15] <Arwen> besides, tor + bt = teh slow
[03:15] <philfo1> back in a bit folks
[03:15] <Arwen> raffytaffy, I run a tor server
[03:15] <wendy> I NEED HELP IN SPANISH
[03:15] <firephoto> philfo1: just log out, and then restart the X from the menu on the login screen.
[03:15] <Arwen> not much of one, but it is a tor server
[03:15] <N6REJ> !es | wendy
[03:15] <ubotu> wendy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:15] <Arwen> raffytaffy, oh wait, if you're just sending tracker requests through tor, that's fine
[03:15] <raffytaffy> yes arwen .thats what im doin
[03:15] <raffytaffy> so the tracker dont have my IP
[03:15] <raffytaffy> im using DHT
[03:15] <Arwen> hehe, there we go
[03:16] <raffytaffy> so im not putting any load on TOR:P
[03:16] <Arwen> raffytaffy, if you use DHT, then when the *AA does a DHT request, they'll see you
[03:16] <raffytaffy> cept maybe a few kbps from web browser
[03:16] <BluesKaj> Arwen is the pysol-4.82-src.tar.bz2 file ...it's mostly solitaire games written in python , if that's any help
[03:16] <Arwen> BluesKaj, ... guess I'll take a look at it
[03:16] <raffytaffy> hmm. so what can i do Arwen
[03:17] <BluesKaj> http://www.pysol.org/
[03:17] <Arwen> raffytaffy, turn off DHT? but that's still futile as the other clients might still log your ip
[03:17] <Arwen> basically, you can't torrent anonymously
[03:17] <N6REJ> brb dinner
[03:17] <raffytaffy> i dont upload thou
[03:17] <Arwen> raffytaffy, that's called leeching....
[03:17] <Arwen> don't do it
[03:17] <kristjan_> hello. any comments on why wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O - | sudo apt-key add - does not work here? (it won't ask for password) do I need to install gnome terminal for that?
[03:17] <raffytaffy> ehh
[03:17] <N6REJ> someone please tell phil I'll be back in about 30 minutes
[03:18] <Arwen> BluesKaj, hmm.... just a bunch of py files, I'll have to check their instructions
[03:18] <Arwen> maybe each py is independent?
[03:18] <soulrider> raffytaffy: they will still get you :P
[03:19] <soulrider> what you can do though, is use a peerguardian blocklist
[03:19] <soulrider> and block all "bad" ips :P
[03:19] <raffytaffy> where do i find such a list soulrider?
[03:19] <soulrider> but if you are in private trackers its sort of pointless
[03:19] <soulrider> raffytaffy: i havnt used one in a while so youre gonna have to google it
[03:19] <philfo1> ok folks, not good.
[03:19] <soulrider> you can install peerguardian
[03:19] <soulrider> or convert a peerguardian blicklist for use with iptables
[03:20] <Arwen> raffytaffy, google for peerguardian - it'll keep you away from the riaa, but they can still find you buy getting a peers list from someone you're connected to
[03:20] <soulrider> peerguardian is better though
[03:20] <soulrider> i hate hte ri/mpaa
[03:20] <raffytaffy> what if i simply block american IP range/
[03:20] <raffytaffy> ?
[03:20] <soulrider> raffytaffy: if youre not in america i dont know if theyc an sue you
[03:20] <Arwen> raffytaffy, it's a matter of probability, you'll never be anywhere near 100% safe
[03:21] <Arwen> raffytaffy, and what soulrider said
[03:21] <raffytaffy> well i dont d/l american media at all
[03:21] <soulrider> im not in america, so screw it :P
[03:21] <raffytaffy> only european trance
[03:21] <Arwen> seriously, just be a normal pirate and seed back...
[03:21] <soulrider> they dont give a crap then
[03:22] <raffytaffy> what if i proxy my peer to peer connection
[03:22] <raffytaffy> hmm
[03:22] <raffytaffy> thats an option
[03:22] <soulrider> raffytaffy: if you download euro trance they wont even bother with you
[03:22] <raffytaffy> ok good
[03:22] <Arwen> raffytaffy, that'll be really really really slow
[03:22] <raffytaffy> i suppose i could use my neighboors wireless signal ...he dont encrypt it
[03:23] <Arwen> besides, if they ever talk to you, start an emergency low-level format and say an ip isn't a person
[03:23] <soulrider> lol
[03:23] <Arwen> ^^ - best way to get rid of em
[03:23] <raffytaffy> i didnt think a civil matter can entail a warrant and search and seizure
[03:23] <soulrider> the riaa can bite me in the bum :P
[03:24] <Arwen> raffytaffy, the RIAA is god
[03:24] <Arwen> seriously though, if you just argue that IP != person, you're good to go
[03:24] <soulrider> look
[03:24] <soulrider> if you downlaod euro trance
[03:24] <soulrider> they wont care
[03:24] <Arwen> wtf is euro trance?
[03:24] <soulrider> because its EURO
[03:24] <soulrider> :P
[03:24] <soulrider> trance from europe
[03:24] <raffytaffy> if anything i was gonna use the open wireless router excuse
[03:24] <soulrider> really annoying music :P
[03:29] <BluesKaj> agreed soulrider... trance is nothing but boom boom repeated ad nauseum ... sampled and stolen from other artists aso DJ'd into new sounds ,
[03:30] <Jucato> !offtopic
[03:30] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:31] <McFrosty> What are some options for sharing webcam's? .. Until Gaim adds support :(
[03:32] <coty> what should i use to use my wifi max wifi antena
[03:32] <coty> i cant seem to get anthing to make it work
[03:33] <coty> Has anyone heard of the wifi max?
[03:33] <coty> it is a wifi antena that connects to the pc to make a wifi hotspot through usb
[03:33] <dwidmann> dustin@terra:~/Music$ vorbisgain -a -f -r */*/*.ogg
[03:33] <dwidmann> bash: /usr/bin/vorbisgain: Argument list too long
[03:33] <dwidmann> crud
[03:34] <dwidmann> since when is 3000 arguments too many :(
[03:34] <Arwen> dwidmann, tried using for?
[03:35] <dwidmann> Arwen, not yet, but I suppose I could do that
[03:35] <soulrider> BluesKaj: lets go to offtopic :P
[03:36] <coty> does anyone know what i should use?
[03:37] <coty> that sucks
[03:37] <coty> anyone else
[03:38] <philfo1> ok got the ATI GC working properly!
[03:39] <surgy> im trying to run a windows game through cedega, and i am getting an error saying, i need to install an activeX component so the game can luanch my browser.
[03:40] <n33o> k .., i found info on my tv card.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2485586 it apparently works.. can anyone help talk me through configuring this to work with tvtime?
[03:42] <coty> so does anyone know of an app for wifi antenas
[03:43] <orient2000> Hi! I have a problem with shutdown. Screen is getting dark and does not shuts down. I can only reset. 6.10 fresh install updated.
[03:47] <orient2000> Hi! I have a problem with shutdown. Screen is getting dark and does not shuts down. I can only reset. 6.10 fresh install updated.
[03:49] <raffytaffy> my adpet is trying to update to kdelibs4 ... i have kde3.5 -> edgy
[03:49] <raffytaffy> should i let it?
[03:50] <a-u-51> should be fine
[03:50] <philfo1> is there any utility or text editor that will open .dbf files?
[03:50] <a-u-51> lol
[03:51] <raffytaffy> i installed something called moblock on my edgy
[03:51] <raffytaffy> i hope it works
[03:52] <spitwise> philfo1: gnumeric
[03:52] <philfo1> thanks
[03:55] <tulio__> hey, can I install compiz an beryl
[03:55] <tulio__> or they cannot run together
[03:57] <tulio__> !xgl
[03:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:57] <crdlb> tulio__, you can install both
[03:57] <crdlb> they do not conflict
[03:58] <tulio__> is beryl stable
[03:58] <n33o> k .., i found info on my tv card.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2485586 it apparently works.. can anyone help talk me through configuring this to work with tvtime?
[04:00] <draik> Is it just me or are any of you having issues with the new kernel?
[04:01] <tulio__> dont know
[04:01] <Admiral_Chicago> draik: what version?
[04:01] <tulio__> i havent updated my kernel yet
[04:01] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 341/764GB, RAM: 977/3035MB, 115 proc's, 36.28min up
[04:02] <draik> Admiral_Chicago: The version would be 2.6.17-11-generic
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, not sure, I don't run Edgy anymore
[04:02] <draik> I can run this kernel without issues.
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> draik: define 'issues' please
[04:02] <draik> CLI login
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> you can only log in via CLI?
[04:02] <draik> startx will not work
[04:03] <draik> correct
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> what does sudo startx say?
[04:03] <draik> I don't know.
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> should spit out an error as "EE: some text"
[04:03] <draik> I just went back to 10-generic
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, thats really strang
[04:03] <Jucato> was nvidia-glx on Edgy upgraded to 9755?
[04:03] <draik> I will be sure to do that and get back to you on that.
[04:05] <Jucato> doesn't seem like it...
[04:06] <Jucato> draik: feel free to ping me if you get some error messages
[04:06] <Admiral_Chicago> or me
[04:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: ping...I have a problem....
[04:07] <draik> Jucato: Will do. At this moment I'm in the middle of writing something important and cannot do a real-time troubleshoot.
[04:07] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: what? :P
[04:07] <Admiral_Chicago> jking
[04:07] <Jucato> :P
[04:07] <Jucato> draik: sure. no problem. I'm online for the next 2 hours. just studying
[04:07] <draik> Thank you both Jucato and Admiral_Chicago
[04:07] <tulio__> does anyone here have an IBM laptop
[04:09] <daskreech2> shazam!
[04:10] <nixternal> thanks chanserv
[04:10] <tulio__> Jucato: what
[04:10] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: about time you do some #kubuntu work
[04:10] <daskreech2> heehee
[04:10] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:10] <Jucato> tulio__: nothing
[04:11] <tulio__> ok
[04:11] <nixternal> he is AFK messing with a Windows box more than likely
[04:12] <Jucato> bah humbug!
[04:12] <daskreech2> is that messing as in forarding the state of bug 1?
[04:12] <felipe_> night
[04:12] <daskreech2> ok I have KDE related questions
[04:13] <Jucato> shoot
[04:13] <daskreech2> Can I span an audio CD ?
[04:13] <Jucato> (let's see if someon will answer)
[04:13] <Jucato> span?
[04:13] <daskreech2> yeah
[04:13] <tulio__> how do i hide the windows from other desktops
[04:13] <Jucato> tulio__: right-click on the panel, configure panel, taskbar options
[04:14] <Jucato> uncheck [ ]  Show windows from other desktops
[04:14] <Jucato> daskreech2: ah hm... not familiar with spanning or Audio CD's.
[04:14] <Jucato> next!
[04:15] <N6REJ> back
[04:15] <nixternal> daskreech2: yes you can span an audio cd. Take a certain amount of songs and add it to CD1, when it is full burn, take the remaining songs and put them on CD2, then burn. Welcome to spanning 101 nixternal style :)
[04:16] <nixternal> daskreech2: is it an iso file or something that is larger than 700mb?
[04:16] <daskreech2> yes
[04:16] <N6REJ> can anyone help with samba?
[04:16] <daskreech2> say a mp3 about 5or so hundred megs
[04:16] <nixternal> N6REJ: I wish I could, my Samba is broke right now
[04:16] <N6REJ> :(
[04:16] <NightBird> a game I was running crashed and left the screen in a weird resolution... how do I fix it?
[04:16] <nixternal> NightBird: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:17] <nixternal> just restart x
[04:17] <nixternal> Quake 3 does it to me all of the time
[04:17] <tulio__> Jucato: didnt see any option for hiding them
[04:17] <NightBird> nixternal, I know there is a way to do it
[04:17] <NightBird> I used to have a script, but I lost it at some point..
[04:17] <Jucato> tulio__: are you using Beryl, by any chance?
[04:17] <nixternal> NightBird: if you know, let me know. I am sick of restarting x all of the time :)
[04:17] <NightBird> will do
[04:18] <philfo1> does anyone out there use a ColorVision Spyder2 Express to calibrate monitor settings
[04:18] <nixternal> philfo1: not unless you have one to give me. I have 2 LCDs that need calibration
[04:18] <N6REJ> back philfo1
[04:19] <tulio__> no, not yet
[04:19] <N6REJ> philfo1: you get it installed ?
[04:19] <Jucato> tulio__: hm? so nothing in the Taskbar options of Configure Panel? it should be at the top
[04:19] <daskreech2> so you can't span a single file across two CD?
[04:19] <philfo1> the spyder vision2?
[04:19] <Jucato> daskreech2: that I don't now... :/
[04:19] <N6REJ> philfo1: nah, wine/ps
[04:20] <philfo1> nope
[04:20] <N6REJ> oh
[04:20] <N6REJ> why you cal'n now ?
[04:20] <hazard> anyone have anyidea what a GNUmake failed assertion means?
[04:21] <argonel> i've got a user-specific video problem.. this one account thinks its in 16-bit colour, and i can't seem make it believe otherwise - looking for a suggestion on what it could be
[04:21] <philfo1> I just got my monitor cal that I ordered last week.
[04:21] <N6REJ> philfo1: no way!
[04:21] <N6REJ> you bought one!
[04:21] <tulio__> option: sort alphabetically, show only minimized, show apllication icons, show window list button
[04:21] <philfo1> uh yeah
[04:21] <N6REJ> OMG, course I know why but still
[04:21] <McFrosty> I resized the menu bar (not sure the correct term) and when I make something full screen it leaves a little space between the menu bar and the window that is open. I like I set it to medium instead of the size it was. Curious how to get my windows to fill up the space when full screen
[04:21] <daskreech2> should I bug someone in KDE?
[04:22] <Jucato> tulio__: weird... that bug only happens when you're running beryl or compiz
[04:22] <Jucato> daskreech2: prolly :)
[04:22] <philfo1> before I did the big switch to LINUX
[04:22] <N6REJ> philfo1: lets get ps in and the it will walk through with it
[04:22] <N6REJ> philfo1: ah
[04:22] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: i do work in here as much as I can. bit busy, got a few more projects going now. Xubuntu Marketing Manager as of today, not sure what that means yet :)
[04:22] <tulio__> im runnig compiz
[04:22] <tulio__> not beryl
[04:22] <tulio__> yet
[04:22] <daskreech2> Admiral_Chicago: it means you've been Xed!
[04:22] <philfo1> so, here's the 411 lately:  I got the ATI graphics card working properly, but my computer is back to slow again.
[04:22] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: that means you aren't Kool anymore
[04:22] <Jucato> tulio__: ah same thing I guess
[04:23] <N6REJ> philfo1: ouch!
[04:23] <tulio__> not the same
[04:23] <tulio__> not exactly
[04:23] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: good bye :(
[04:23] <philfo1> I think i want to use the gimp instead of PS.
[04:23] <nixternal> hahahahahah
[04:23] <Jucato> tulio__: I meant that it has thesame bug
[04:23] <Admiral_Chicago> :(
[04:23] <N6REJ> got I had ati cards
[04:23] <N6REJ> k
[04:23] <philfo1> because of what we talked about earlier
[04:23] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: at least now you have a reason not to "work" on #kubuntu
[04:24] <Jucato> :P
[04:24] <nixternal> oooh
[04:24] <N6REJ> yeah, I can hear that, my only fear with gimpshOP vs straight gimp is we have to lock down the libs unless we do it the other way.
[04:24] <philfo1> but as soon as Adobe releases the port, I'm going to buy it for Linucks
[04:24] <philfo1> that muct be the Canadian version...
[04:24] <nixternal> haha
[04:24] <Admiral_Chicago> hey, i do work here, never help in #xubuntu ever.
[04:24] <Jucato> lol
[04:24] <philfo1> yeah, locking down the lib is one issue, but remember that there is active development in gimpshop
[04:25] <N6REJ> philfo1: thinking about this realistically
[04:25] <N6REJ> philfo1: not from what I saw, 2006 was last change.
[04:25] <tulio__> Jucato: any way for fixing
[04:25] <philfo1> and the library will eventually be updated.
[04:25] <NightBird> well...
[04:25] <Jucato> tulio__: only from the compiz/berly end of things I think
[04:25] <NightBird> I sort of found a fix...
[04:25] <philfo1> yeah, but what are you losing with that old library?
[04:25] <daskreech2> Admiral_Chicago: so you mean to tell us that your work from here shone so bright they picked it up in #xubuntu ?
[04:25] <NightBird> that would be easy enough to figure out once and put in a script, but it's not auto detecting or anything like that..
[04:25] <dwidmann> philfo1: is that an if or a when?
[04:26] <NightBird> xrandr -s <width>x<height>
[04:26] <philfo1> so I think I DO need to install Wine so I can use my new monitor Cal
[04:26] <N6REJ> philfo1: I don't know let me invesitage it some... might be a lot.
[04:26] <Admiral_Chicago> daskreech2: actually more like they have way less people developing, i though i'd help out.
[04:26] <NightBird> nixternal: try that next time it doesn't work
[04:26] <N6REJ> I'm thinking so. butt.. .I haven't checked the site yet or wineapp either
[04:26] <philfo1> right.
[04:26] <tulio__> =\
[04:26] <daskreech2> ahh yeah that works
[04:26] <Admiral_Chicago> tulio__: #ubuntu-effects may be able to help you out as well
[04:26] <daskreech2> why not gnewsense?
[04:26] <tulio__> thanks
[04:26] <daskreech2> or better #fluxbuntu ?
[04:26] <nixternal> NightBird: will do
[04:26] <daskreech2> or worse #ebuntu ?
[04:26] <tulio__> what is the ascii code for the slash
[04:27] <philfo1> i'm kind of a Luddite (funny because I'm using a computer...) and believe that working stuff doesn't need to be fixed better unless it's a major fix
[04:27] <N6REJ> let me go do some reading really quick and see what I can read about GSP
[04:27] <N6REJ> philfo1: well, I can understand the rationality to that.
[04:27] <philfo1> i'm going to try to find a hack for the monitor cal
[04:27] <BluesKaj> #eyebuntucandy :)
[04:27] <N6REJ> OH I just thought of something.
[04:27] <philfo1> yes?
[04:27] <daskreech2> BluesKaj: HA! that's classic
[04:28] <N6REJ> wiat brain fart, let me gather it back together.
[04:28] <N6REJ> got it.
[04:28] <philfo1> does it have to do with the fact that my cal dev is a windoz version?
[04:28] <N6REJ> that version you used?  They intentionally compiled it without gutenprint
[04:28] <N6REJ> YOU WANT gutenprint!
[04:28] <BluesKaj> hey daskreech2, how's things ?
[04:28] <philfo1> oh crap.  I can't use my i9100?
[04:29] <daskreech2> hey BluesKaj got flu?
[04:29] <N6REJ> no, GSP, hang on let me go see something... .brb
[04:29] <BluesKaj> bummer ;(
[04:29] <pirothezero> how can I go straight to delete from the system completely and skip trash ?
[04:29] <pirothezero> also whats the trash directory?
[04:29] <philfo1> my driver isn't through gutenprint, it's the other one that was available and recommended
[04:30] <a-u-51> has anyone changed there keyboard layout by changing xorg.conf? where do i go to find out the identifier name?
[04:30] <N6REJ> philfo1: I don't think you'll get the q you need without gutenprint!
[04:30] <philfo1> quality?
[04:30] <N6REJ> unless nix has an EXACT PPD for it.
[04:30] <N6REJ> yeah
[04:30] <a-u-51> *thier
[04:30] <a-u-51> their lol
[04:30] <philfo1> I'm not so much worried about that because i work at a custom hybrid wet/dry lab
[04:30] <NightBird> http://static.scribd.com/docs/736egzypod07v_files/image009.jpg
[04:31] <N6REJ> philfo1:  join gsp
[04:31] <philfo1> and do my printing with real silver process there, not here.
[04:31] <philfo1> gsp?
[04:31] <N6REJ> type "/join gsp"
[04:33] <a-u-51> xkbmodel "pc128" i dont want to try that and have it fail
[04:35] <a-u-51> some uses volume keys on their keyboard...
[04:35] <a-u-51> someone
[04:36] <david> hi
[04:36] <david> how can I send a message using dbus to an app? (audacious)
[04:40] <pirothezero> why is it that folder file size isn't in the detailed view in a file manager and you have to right click or use a program like filelight to see folder sizes
[04:44] <mike> hey i was wondering if someone can help me install Adobe Flash Player?
[04:45] <daskreech2> !flash9
[04:45] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:46] <daskreech2> !flash
[04:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:46] <mike> !flash9
[04:46] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:47] <mike> can you help me do it, im new to Kubuntu, so im really confused
[04:47] <qbert> argh, why cant i find emacs in my adept manager ??
[04:47] <mike> i have it downloaded and saved to the desktop, now how do i install it, its not like windows at all
[04:47] <qbert> can someone else search for it and verify its there ?
[04:47] <daskreech2> mike: hmm
[04:48] <daskreech2> mike: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[04:48] <Morbo> qbert: becase emacs is evil
[04:48] <mike> how do i find out?
[04:48] <qbert> all your base belong to emacs
[04:48] <qbert> Morbo: can you search for it please ?
[04:49] <daskreech2> hmm
[04:49] <daskreech2> mike: can you open a konsole?
[04:49] <mike> konsole?
[04:49] <daskreech2> mike: alt+space
[04:49] <daskreech2> type konsole
[04:49] <Morbo> I see it, qbert
[04:49] <daskreech2> press enter
[04:50] <qbert> hmm, can you give me your sources.list urls pls ? thx
[04:50] <Morbo> qbert: It's in main
[04:50] <mike> the terminal came up
[04:50] <Morbo> qbert: do aptitude search emacs
[04:50] <Morbo> See what happens
[04:50] <qbert> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted that one ?
[04:51] <Jucato> carutsu: enable the -backports repository (edgy-backports if you're on Edgy) and "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" (don't use Adept)
[04:51] <qbert> why does it say restricted
[04:51] <daskreech2> mike: ok type cat /etc/issue
[04:51] <Morbo> restricted is one of the repos, qbert
[04:51] <mike> Ubuntu 6.10
[04:51] <Morbo> It's officially-supported stuff that is non-free
[04:51] <carutsu> Jucato i already have it installed
[04:51] <daskreech2> alright
[04:52] <carutsu> Jucato the problem is Konqueror doesnt find it
[04:52] <qbert> my aptitutde search comes up with nothing -- argh , i just installed this yesterday
[04:52] <Jucato> carutsu: you said you installed it for Firefox
[04:52] <daskreech2> mike: alt+space -> adept -> <enter>
[04:52] <mike> adept manager?
[04:52] <daskreech2> yes
[04:53] <Jucato> carutsu: if you installed it from the package manager, both Firefox and Konqueror will be able to find it
[04:53] <daskreech2> mike: tell me when it's open
[04:53] <carutsu> Jucato nop Konqueror still uses the old one, i know because it has a bug and the sound isn't sync with the video
[04:53] <mike> its open
[04:54] <daskreech2> mike: ok under the adept menu click manage repositories
[04:54] <mike> okay i did
[04:54] <daskreech2> you have a list of servers?
[04:54] <Jucato> carutsu: in Konqueror, type in "about:plugins" and check which version of Flash it uses
[04:54] <mike> yes
[04:55] <carutsu> Jucato i forced konqueror and added the folder (although it already was) and now it works
[04:55] <Jucato> carutsu: if you installed Flash 9 using Firefox's installer, it might not have put it in a directory that Konqueror can scan
[04:55] <Jucato> ok
[04:55] <carutsu> Jucato Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31
[04:55] <daskreech2> ok look for a line that has universe at the end
[04:55] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[04:56] <daskreech2> Jucato: can you give me some help with the URL?
[04:56] <carutsu> Jucato: I still have Shockwave Flash 7.0 r61
[04:56] <carutsu> Jucato: xD i have booth
[04:56] <Jucato> carutsu: where are you getting that Flash 9.0 r31 then? Konqueror's about:plugins?
[04:56] <Jucato> daskreech2: which URL?
[04:56] <Jucato> carutsu: yeah because you didn't install through the package manager
[04:57] <carutsu> Jucato i did i swear
[04:57] <carutsu> Jucato
[04:57] <mike> i dont see one with Universe
[04:57] <carutsu> Jucato i even did it twice xD uninstalled and then reinstaled
[04:57] <daskreech2> Jucato: universe repos url
[04:57] <Jucato> carutsu: howw did you install flash 9 for firefox then?
[04:58] <carutsu> Jucato actually Firefox came 'couse i installed flash-nonfree
[04:58] <Jucato> hm...
[04:58] <carutsu> Jucato: with apt-get
[04:58] <Jucato> ah
[04:58] <echosyp> can i lock certain processes to a specific interface
[04:59] <Jucato> daskreech2: deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe <--- ??
[04:59] <daskreech2> yeah
[04:59] <daskreech2> mike: you don't see a line that looks like that?
[04:59] <carutsu> Jucato: weird huh?
[04:59] <mike> no i dont
[05:00] <mike> oh wait
[05:00] <daskreech2> really?
[05:00] <mike> it says us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:00] <daskreech2> right
[05:00] <daskreech2> that's fine
[05:00] <daskreech2> and there is deb-src line right under it?
[05:00] <mike> okay now what
[05:00] <daskreech2> highlight it and click enable
[05:00] <ForgeAus> where does konqueror store its user agent strings?
[05:00] <mike> yes
[05:01] <daskreech2> mike: ok now double click the word universe
[05:01] <daskreech2> you should be able to to edit it
[05:01] <ForgeAus> not the websites that associate with them the actual user agents
[05:01] <daskreech2> put the word multiverse after the word universe
[05:01] <mike> i dont see any word named universe
[05:01] <ForgeAus> (just a string like eg: Lynx/2.8.4rel.1 libwww-FM/2.14
[05:02] <daskreech2> mike: sure?
[05:02] <ForgeAus> or: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; ; Linux armv5tejl; U) Opera 8.02 [en_US]  Maemo browser 0.4.31 N770/SU-18
[05:02] <mike> yes im sure
[05:02] <daskreech2> mike: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe ?
[05:02] <ForgeAus> mike if you have main in there just add space universe space multiverse
[05:03] <daskreech2> whats at the end of the line that you are looking at?
[05:03] <mike> i see in grey "UNIVERSE WILL NOT RECIEVE ANY REVIEW OR UPDATES FROM UBUNTU SECURITY"
[05:03] <echosyp> can i lock certain processes to a specific interface
[05:03] <daskreech2> ah
[05:03] <daskreech2> look below that :-)
[05:03] <ForgeAus> for a line that starts with deb or deb-src
[05:03] <mike> under that it says
[05:04] <mike> deb us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:04] <daskreech2> can you scroll over a little?
[05:04] <golum83> hi i am trying to install beryl in a sony vaio with Radeon Mobility M6 LY can some one help me
[05:04] <mike> if i scroll over it says Edgy
[05:04] <daskreech2> a little more :-)
[05:05] <ForgeAus> if this is in adept (the kubuntu package manger) under manage repositories it should have a few columns
[05:05] <mike> it wont let me scroll over anymore
[05:05] <ForgeAus> thats strange
[05:05] <mike> it says u....
[05:05] <mike> im guessing thats it
[05:05] <mike> but it wont let me scroll over
[05:06] <ForgeAus> can you expand the column that says u... ?
[05:06] <mike> no i cant
[05:06] <ForgeAus> (up above that should be some headings for each column you generally can click the bars between them to resize
[05:07] <mike> oOo i got it
[05:07] <mike> okay i see universe
[05:07] <ForgeAus> if you click in there you can add multiverse to it :)
[05:07] <mike> so "multiverse universe"
[05:07] <daskreech2> yes
[05:08] <mike> okay done
[05:08] <ForgeAus> well I'd personally go the other way around but sure
[05:08] <daskreech2> you enabled the line?
[05:08] <ForgeAus> then you have to apply
[05:08] <mike> how do i enable it?
[05:08] <ForgeAus> (or save)
[05:08] <daskreech2> right click it
[05:08] <mike> click apply
[05:08] <mike> if i right click it says
[05:08] <daskreech2> right click and enable it first
[05:08] <ForgeAus> ok now it shouldn't be greyed out
[05:08] <mike> "disable, remove  & clone"
[05:09] <daskreech2> mike: ok hit apply and you should be good
[05:09] <daskreech2> then close
[05:09] <daskreech2> !flash9
[05:09] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:09] <neko_> hello everybody, i have some question ...
[05:09] <ForgeAus> congrats you just added the multiverse repository!
[05:09] <daskreech2> mike: whoops
[05:09] <daskreech2> wiat a bit
[05:09] <Morbo> !ask | neko_
[05:09] <ubotu> neko_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:09] <daskreech2> you may need edgy-backports
[05:10] <ForgeAus> edgy backports is just a clone of that line
[05:10] <ForgeAus> with instead of edgy edgy-backports
[05:10] <daskreech2> like two lones below
[05:10] <mike> ummm
[05:10] <daskreech2> lines
[05:10] <ForgeAus> in the column BEFORE universe multiverse where it says edgy
[05:10] <daskreech2> mike: closed it already?
[05:11] <mike> no i didnt close it
[05:11] <ForgeAus> note: don't change the line you just did
[05:11] <ForgeAus> add a copy of it
[05:11] <neko_> ok, is there any proxy server for litile firm (~10 men) like usergate for windows, but free, with grafical interface (mn thrue apache) and socks5?
[05:11] <mike> Okay not to sound retarted, but im completely lost
[05:11] <ForgeAus> (you had an option to clone when you rightclicked)
[05:11] <BluesKaj> sacktime gents ... nite all
[05:12] <mike> clone what?
[05:12] <daskreech2> mike: hold up :-)
[05:12] <ForgeAus> the line in sources.list
[05:12] <daskreech2> i'll explain in a little
[05:12] <daskreech2> ForgeAus: it's already there
[05:12] <ForgeAus> the whole deb <URL> edgy main universe multiverse
[05:12] <daskreech2> why make him clone it?
[05:12] <ForgeAus> edgy proposed is?
[05:13] <ForgeAus> I didn't think that was in the default sources.list
[05:13] <daskreech2> edgy-backports
[05:13] <ForgeAus> oh yeah backports, sorry
[05:13] <ForgeAus> is it?
[05:13] <ForgeAus> (in the default one)
[05:13] <daskreech2> ok mike back to me
[05:14] <mike> ummmm im soooo lost
[05:14] <ForgeAus> lol its ok
[05:14] <daskreech2> mike: i'll explain it all in a second
[05:14] <daskreech2> mike: you still have that line you just edited/enabled ?
[05:14] <mike> yes
[05:15] <daskreech2> mike: ok look like two lines down for a line that says deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports somethingsomething
[05:15] <daskreech2> the important part is the edgy-backports
[05:16] <mike> i dont see edgy-backports
[05:16] <daskreech2> mike: the line you edited has the word edgy right ?
[05:17] <mike> yeah'
[05:17] <daskreech2> ok look in that same column for edgy-backports
[05:18] <daskreech2> I think it's down a few lines. i could be wrong
[05:18] <mike> oh okay i see it
[05:18] <mike> there are two
[05:18] <mike> and one is grey
[05:18] <daskreech2> really?
[05:18] <mike> deb-src is greu
[05:18] <daskreech2> does the one that's not grey have deb at the start?
[05:18] <mike> *gray
[05:18] <daskreech2> great :-)
[05:18] <daskreech2> click apply and close you are done
[05:19] <daskreech2> now just for fun
[05:19] <mike> wait, deb-src is gray
[05:19] <daskreech2> look at the status bar at the bottom of adept :)
[05:19] <mike> and deb isnt. thats right?
[05:19] <daskreech2> mike: that's ok
[05:19] <mike> oh okay gotcha
[05:19] <daskreech2> unless you plan on coding anytime soon
[05:20] <mike> lol umm no what ever that is
[05:20] <mike> okay status bar?
[05:20] <phr0z3n> o.O
[05:20] <daskreech2> mike: the very bottom of the window
[05:20] <daskreech2> you clicked close?
[05:20] <mike> install 0, upgrade 0, remove 0
[05:20] <daskreech2> right
[05:21] <daskreech2> how many packages are available?
[05:21] <phr0z3n> Coding= a certain language in which is how apps are created to put it in a simple way. like Windows was coded in C++ mike :-D.
[05:21] <mike> 959 installed, 76 upgradeable, 20308 available
[05:21] <phr0z3n> anyways, welcome to Kubuntu.
[05:21] <daskreech2> mike: ok click fetch updates
[05:22] <mike> okay its waiting for headers
[05:22] <daskreech2> mike: ok do you mind reading orwant me to explain what you just did?
[05:22] <mike> explane it to me
[05:22] <mike> please
[05:22] <JackPhil> can i hide the main panel?
[05:23] <daskreech2> mike: alright adept is a way to install applications
[05:23] <daskreech2> they are split up into sections
[05:23] <daskreech2> and versions
[05:23] <daskreech2> the version of kubuntu you are using is 6.10
[05:23] <daskreech2> it's called edgy
[05:24] <mike> okay
[05:24] <daskreech2> so the column that says edgy dictates what version of applications you can install
[05:24] <ubuntu> anybody have an accurate md5 for kubuntu-6.10-amd-dvd.iso?
[05:24] <daskreech2> older versions of kubuntu will install older versions of software
[05:25] <daskreech2> newer ones will install newer versions etc
[05:25] <daskreech2> mike: does that make sense?
[05:25] <mike> mmhmm
[05:25] <wendy> i need help in spanish
[05:25] <daskreech2> !es | wendy
[05:25] <ubotu> wendy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:26] <mike> so do i do a search for flash on the search bar on adept
[05:26] <daskreech2> yep
[05:26] <mike> okay i see Adove Flash Player Plugin and the status is Not Installed
[05:26] <daskreech2> mike: now the last column (universe, multiverse) says WHICH applications you can install
[05:26] <mike> how do i install it
[05:27] <daskreech2> mike: right click it
[05:27] <mike> request install?
[05:27] <ubuntu> yup
[05:27] <daskreech2> yup
[05:27] <mike> now what?
[05:27] <daskreech2> then apply at the top
[05:27] <ubuntu> hmm what happens if i tried that using this desktop cd? :)
[05:28] <daskreech2> if you want to review what you are doing then you can click preview changes
[05:28] <ubuntu> any idea??
[05:29] <daskreech2> ubuntu; sorry what's the question?
[05:29] <beer> anyone know where i can look for info on getting the wireless button on my laptop to work with edgy?
[05:29] <unix_infidel> beer: /etc/acpi
[05:29] <unix_infidel> look in there.
[05:29] <beer> or maybe remapping it all togeather
[05:30] <beer> unix: is there documentation?
[05:30] <mike> so everytime i want to install a program, i download it, and save it to the destop and go under adept and search and download right?
[05:30] <mike> ** search and install right?
[05:31] <Forge> back
[05:31] <Forge> ... I think
[05:31] <beer> not exactly sure what i need to do  in there
[05:32] <acamargob> hola bipolar
[05:33] <bipolar> acamargob: hi
[05:34] <MrWGW-> good evening
[05:34] <acamargob> hi
[05:34] <MrWGW-> but ATM, I am in need of this channel's services
[05:34] <daskreech2_> mike: back
[05:34] <MrWGW-> btw hi Jucato, daskreech
[05:34] <Jucato> hi MrWGW-
[05:34] <MrWGW-> I want to put Ubuntu on my MacMini
[05:34] <MrWGW-> or Kubuntu rather
[05:34] <MrWGW-> well probably both, this is an Intel one with a Core Duo
[05:34] <mike> alrighty
[05:35] <MrWGW-> is this especially hard and what is the picture like in terms of hardware support?
[05:36] <daskreech2_> mike: there are 4 main sections
[05:37] <ubuntu> does anybody here use wine?
[05:37] <MrWGW-> not I
[05:37] <acamargob> what for?
[05:38] <ForgeAus> I do (well I prefer cxoffice but stilll)
[05:38] <MrWGW-> I have mucho Windows installs and am not a fanboi to the point where I'd want to use a notoriously difficult emulator for them
[05:38] <MrWGW-> what I'm trying to do is learn how to live with the Linux replacements
[05:38] <MrWGW-> which in some cases are better, other cases worse
[05:38] <ForgeAus> in most cases simply different
[05:39] <ForgeAus> (sorry it always seems with the vs attitude windows VS linux... I'm not like that at all!)
[05:39] <ubuntu> whats the best windows emu?
[05:39] <ForgeAus> vmware
[05:39] <ForgeAus> (or virtualbox)
[05:39] <MrWGW-> right, you can't beat virtualization
[05:39] <ForgeAus> it virtualizes windows
[05:39] <ForgeAus> but its not exactly an emulator
[05:39] <ubuntu> i just want something for games
[05:39] <ForgeAus> wine is good for a program that runs SOME windows applications
[05:39] <MrWGW-> then it would probably be what you'd want
[05:40] <MrWGW-> either that or a partition
[05:40] <ForgeAus> ubuntu are they 3D ones?
[05:40] <ubuntu> i like how this desktop cd works.. tho im dissapointed in how the wireless pp works
[05:41] <ubuntu> and i cant seem to figure out how to mount my hdd
[05:42] <jryhiggins> i am in need of help with Adept manager
[05:42] <ubuntu> whats the problem?
[05:43] <jryhiggins> i get a error, real mode only
[05:43] <ubuntu> when you doo.. what?
[05:43] <jryhiggins> sorry, its read only mode
[05:43] <acamargob> what error?
[05:44] <jryhiggins> database locked
[05:44] <MonkeyFit> i just had that problem
[05:44] <MonkeyFit> lemme digg up the link i found
[05:44] <MonkeyFit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=348952
[05:44] <jryhiggins> cool, thnx
[05:45] <jeanmass> hello
[05:45] <MrWGW-> anyway, any thoughts on my Mac install?
[05:45] <jeanmass> i've uploaded an album in my ipod
[05:45] <jeanmass> all tracks work, but one
[05:45] <jeanmass> this problematic track does work in amarok
[05:45] <jeanmass> but do not on ipod
[05:45] <jeanmass> ??
[05:46] <jeanmass> what is wrong?
[05:47] <pwn4tt4ck> I tried xubuntu the other day
[05:47] <pwn4tt4ck> Its too much like gnome for me to like it
[05:47] <MonkeyFit> does anybody know where i would go for gstreamer related issues?
[05:48] <Jucato> #ubuntu ?
[05:48] <MonkeyFit> such as no playback of wma lossless files in the terminal
[05:48] <jeanmass> MonkeyFit: try ubuntuforums
[05:48] <crdlb> MonkeyFit, wma lossless?
[05:48] <MonkeyFit> i tried ubuntu forums
[05:48] <MonkeyFit> and yes
[05:48] <crdlb> I don't think there's any support for that
[05:48] <MonkeyFit> wma lossless
[05:48] <MonkeyFit> it works in mplayer
[05:48] <crdlb> except maybe with pitfdll
[05:49] <crdlb> !gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[05:49] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll: GStreamer plugin for using MS Windows binary codecs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1.1+cvs20060515-1 (edgy), package size 79 kB, installed size 260 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:49] <MonkeyFit> and it looks like pitfdll registered the right dll that mplayer uses
[05:49] <MonkeyFit> but still, gstreamer tells me no decoder was found
[05:50] <MonkeyFit> it's odd, especially since it worked in Kubuntu Dapper
[05:50] <crdlb> MonkeyFit, I suggest converting them to flac
[05:50] <crdlb> much more futureproof
[05:50] <MonkeyFit> Are there any good converters that will convert tags as well?
[05:50] <joecoder> considering switching to suse
[05:50] <MonkeyFit> either in linux or windows?
[05:51] <jeanmass> suse seems nice
[05:51] <jeanmass> haven't tried it
[05:51] <crdlb> MonkeyFit, from wma? I don't know, sorry
[05:51] <MonkeyFit> I'll check elsewhere
[05:51] <MonkeyFit> thank you
[05:52] <wolferine> anyone use proftpd, and has setup a dir outside the /username dir?
[05:56] <genii> Jucato Actually I may soon just pay for an IV tube of caffeine
[05:57] <genii> But atm it is a cup (extremely large cup)
[05:57] <Jucato> O.o
[05:58] <ubuntu> ok i got a question here.. Im currently running a desktop cd, and i've downloaded a few updates / programs... where are these kept? and will they stil be there if i reboot?
[05:59] <genii> ubuntu Theya re being kept in a ramdisk and each boot you lose them
[05:59] <ubuntu> thats what i guessed
[05:59] <ubuntu> will they install? so i can try them out?
[06:00] <genii> ubuntu so long as the package size does not exceed the size of your ramdisk you can install whatever you like
[06:02] <coty> daskreech are you on
[06:02] <genii> Jucato Seems like a slow night :)
[06:03] <coty> daskreech2_ : i know you there 0_0
[06:03] <daskreech2_> coty: I am?
[06:03] <coty> guess what
[06:03] <ubuntu> chicken butt?
[06:04] <coty> are you the origanal daskreech
[06:04] <coty> well if you are then im happy to say that i finally got kubuntu installed
[06:04] <daskreech2> sure why not :-)
[06:05] <daskreech2> coty: neat :-)
[06:05] <coty> yeah
[06:05] <daskreech2> what was the problem?
[06:05] <coty> I also have all the ubuntus on my computer now
[06:05] <coty> the bios
[06:05] <coty> i changed the advance setting
[06:05] <coty> were it looked for windows
[06:06] <Shootfast> hey guys, anyone else running feisty and having repo troubles?
[06:06] <coty> to were it would look for linux
[06:06] <coty> It was a lot of stress getting kubuntu to work
[06:06] <daskreech2> sorry :-(
[06:07] <coty> I'm sure a lot of people on here that helped had head aches
[06:07] <coty> lol
[06:07] <coty> I also found out that i cant boot from slave
[06:07] <coty> So i wiped out windows
[06:07] <coty> and installed it there on my master drive
[06:09] <daskreech2> :-)
[06:09] <coty> I was scared
[06:09] <coty> It was a 50/50 chance it would work
[06:10] <coty> and at first it did not work
[06:10] <coty> so i thought i had no longer windows or linux
[06:10] <coty> so i messed around in bios and boom it worked
[06:11] <coty> I really dont miss windows though
[06:11] <genii> Shootfast Yes
[06:11] <coty> but there is one thing that makes me mad so far
[06:11] <coty> and that is i bought the wifi max
[06:11] <nonuda_> i am trying to edit my boot menu, can i just add # symbol to make some of boot choice dissapear?
[06:11] <daskreech2> coty: well we are here to help out and make sure you don't miss it
[06:11] <coty> for my psp to have a hot spot
[06:11] <genii> Shootfast But the best place to ask about Feisty is #ubuntu+1
[06:12] <coty> daskreech2 : i know if it was not for you guys i would have never got it to work
[06:12] <coty> daskreech2 : but i want my wifi max to work
[06:12] <golum83> hola?
[06:12] <coty> daskreech2 : but i dont know how to get it to
[06:13] <golum83> hi i want to install beryl, i have sony vaio k rollal
[06:13] <daskreech2> wifi max is which one again?
[06:13] <daskreech2> !beryl
[06:13] <coty> me to
[06:13] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:13] <bonbonthejon> !es | golum83
[06:13] <ubotu> golum83: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:13] <bonbonthejon> !beryl | golum83
[06:13] <ubotu> golum83: please see above
[06:13] <coty> darskreech2: it is a wifi anteana that was made for the psp and ds
[06:13] <coty> daskreech2 : it makes a hot spot for them
[06:14] <daskreech2> coty: what version of wifi does it run?
[06:14] <coty> daskreech2 : it plugs into the usb
[06:14] <coty> daskreech2: both b and g
[06:14] <daskreech2> ah so it's a normal wifi?
[06:14] <daskreech2> !wifi
[06:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:15] <coty> daskreech2 : so what will i do
[06:15] <daskreech2> read that :-)
[06:15] <daskreech2> 666
[06:15] <daskreech2> ^^^
[06:15] <coty> ok
[06:15] <daskreech2> that didn't work out weel :-(
[06:15] <daskreech2> well
[06:16] <coty> daskreech2 : why do you have a 2 on the end of your name
[06:16] <neptunepink> daskreech2: the mark of the devil is actually a bunch of carots?
[06:17] <nonuda_> can someone take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12717/ , i want to remove some of boot menu choices
[06:17] <daskreech2> if bit shifted
[06:19] <nonuda_> i want to remove ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-386
[06:21] <genii> nonuda_: So something like:   sudo apt-get remove kernel-image-<<kernelversion to remove here>>
[06:21] <coty> !wifi
[06:21] <coty> !wifi
[06:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:22] <coty> !botsnack
[06:22] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:23] <daskreech2> :-)
[06:23] <coty> what should i look for
[06:23] <coty> there are so many things to go through
[06:26] <daskreech2> well thre is a wi-fi howto
[06:26] <daskreech2> that's where I normally start
[06:27] <daskreech2> right after I install kwifimanager
[06:27] <daskreech2> you know
[06:27] <daskreech2> if I ever used wifi
[06:31] <golum83> Beryl, can some one help installing beryl or recommend a good page i have Radeon Mobility M6 LY [Radeon Mobility 9000
[06:32] <daskreech2> !beryl | golum83. this should help
[06:32] <ubotu> golum83. this should help: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:34] <coty> I would love to get beryl running on my computer
[06:34] <coty> I have gone to that site
[06:35] <coty> but i dont know were to find the download for it
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> coty: its in the repos
[06:35] <abortd_> beryl made my comp catch on fire....
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> coty: apt-get beryl
[06:35] <coty> repos?
[06:35] <daskreech2> coty: sorry I forget you still have a lot ot learn
[06:35] <coty> yeap
[06:35] <daskreech2> !universe | coty
[06:35] <ubotu> coty: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:37] <coty> so what should i look for on the beryl site
[06:37] <daskreech2> coty: you don't need that :)
[06:38] <coty> okk
[06:38] <daskreech2> coty type /join #ubuntu-effects
[06:38] <abortd_> coty i will make your comp catch fire
[06:38] <abortd_> it i mean
[06:38] <coty> for real?
[06:38] <AbortD> yp
[06:38] <coty> i dont beleive you
[06:38] <AbortD> :P
[06:39] <AbortD> thats a good idea not to hahaha
[06:39] <coty> whats that suppose to mean
[06:39] <AbortD> its a good idea not to believe me
[06:39] <coty> oh
[06:39] <coty> lol
[06:39] <coty> well i kind of did
[06:40] <coty> considering how powerful im guessing this programe is
[06:40] <AbortD> i figured :)
[06:40] <AbortD> its sweet
[06:40] <AbortD> honestly
[06:40] <AbortD> im switching to gnome though
[06:40] <coty> well not until i get it
[06:40] <AbortD> i feel it will be a better enviroment for it
[06:40] <coty> yeah
[06:40] <coty> i have both
[06:40] <coty> kde , gnome
[06:41] <daskreech2> AbortD: have you seen kwin_compostie ?
[06:41] <coty> so
[06:41] <coty> how will i get this thing running
[06:41] <daskreech2> which wi-fi or beryl?
[06:41] <coty> first i need to download it
[06:41] <AbortD> kwin_compostie?
[06:41] <coty> beryl
[06:41] <AbortD> it just seems like kde hates my comp
[06:42] <coty> kde and gnome love mine
[06:42] <AbortD> and the vid driver i have wont let me keep the same screen res it seems like
[06:42] <daskreech2> kwin_composite
[06:42] <AbortD> i set everything and still it likes to resize my desktop
[06:42] <coty> you want to hear something weird
[06:42] <daskreech2> coty: did you ask in #ubuntu-effects ?
[06:42] <coty> gnome never worked on my computer until i ran kde on it
[06:42] <coty> no
[06:43] <coty> what should i ask
[06:43] <daskreech2> how do you install beryl? :-)
[06:43] <AbortD> i wish kde would work good for me
[06:43] <AbortD> i wish my nvidia drivers would
[06:43] <daskreech2> AbortD: what does it do?
[06:43] <coty> ok
[06:43] <coty> #ubuntu-effects
[06:43] <osiris> anyone here have any idea how to connecto to a nextel phone with ubuntu ?
[06:43] <coty> woops
[06:43] <AbortD> ok for beginners when i set my monitor to any res it has black lines around it
[06:43] <daskreech2> AbortD: widescreen monitor?
[06:44] <AbortD> and when i go into my monitors OSD and resize and such then it goes into power safe mode or whenever the monitor goes into low power mode it screws it up again
[06:44] <AbortD> no
[06:44] <osiris> AbortD, use the physical controls on your monitor to realign the screen
[06:45] <AbortD> i did
[06:45] <AbortD> thats what i meant by OSD
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> hmm, weird
[06:45] <genii> osiris OSD=On Screen Display
[06:45] <osiris> did you comment out all the unused modes in xorg.conf ?
[06:45] <AbortD> hm
[06:45] <AbortD> dont think so
[06:46] <AbortD> let me pastebin it
[06:46] <AbortD> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:46] <osiris> find you actual reasolution, and comment out all outher lines
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> osiris: that might not be a good idea, a lot of games and such change the res around
[06:48] <osiris> depends on what you are trying to do i guess.  just comment out the ones you know you dont want hen i guess
[06:48] <AbortD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12718/
[06:48] <AbortD> i use the bottom line with 1600 by 1200
[06:48] <intelikey> !vertual
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vertual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <osiris> AbortD, do you have a tablet ?
[06:49] <AbortD> no
[06:49] <osiris> comment all that shit out for one
[06:49] <AbortD> all of what shit?
[06:49] <intelikey> !language
[06:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> line 106
[06:50] <AbortD> whatever captain intelikey
[06:50] <osiris> what resolution do you want it at
[06:50] <intelikey> how do you know my rank ?
[06:50] <AbortD> 1200 by 1600
[06:51] <osiris> intelikey, sorry
[06:51] <AbortD> im your stalker
[06:51] <osiris> been a long time since i was here
[06:51] <AbortD> 1600 by 1200
[06:51] <osiris> wont happen again
[06:51] <intelikey> AbortD no you
[06:51] <AbortD> not me?
[06:51] <osiris> other servers, other rules
[06:51] <intelikey> no you are not.   we caught him last weak
[06:51] <osiris> i forgot
[06:51] <daskreech2> !language | osiris
[06:51] <ubotu> osiris: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:52] <osiris> no sh@#$#%%^  a little late to the party
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> sorry, lines 80-106
[06:52] <coty> hey how would i know what my GFX card is
[06:52] <osiris> i appologized
[06:52] <osiris> my bad
[06:52] <osiris> dag
[06:52] <AbortD> ok everyone calm down so i can get help
[06:53] <coty> They wont help me until i tell them my gfx card
[06:53] <daskreech2> just a friendly reminder
[06:53] <genii> !opsnack
[06:53] <ubotu> Peanuts!
[06:53] <coty> !graphicscard
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphicscard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <intelikey> coty  lshw | less
[06:54] <coty> intelikey : what
[06:54] <AbortD> hitmanWilly:  the driver wacom?
[06:54] <intelikey> ls=list hw=hardware    less is a pager.
[06:54] <coty> is that the command prompt
[06:54] <osiris> AbortD, if it were me, i would dlete 800x600, and 640x480 on the last line, comment out all but the 16 bit G-mode lines (second to last) and roll with it
[06:54] <AbortD> osiris what do i do
[06:54] <coty> ok
[06:55] <intelikey> coty yes konsole   # lshw | less #
[06:55] <osiris> idk if yeyer trying to game and chagne resolutions all the time
[06:55] <AbortD> i need 24bit
[06:55] <AbortD> and i dont want 1024x768
[06:55] <coty> ok did that
[06:55] <AbortD> i want one damn res
[06:55] <coty> were would i see the gfx card
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> AbortD: yeah, all of that
[06:55] <osiris> then take it it out, and comment out all other modes than the one you want
[06:55] <AbortD> screw it i give up
[06:56] <intelikey> coty  it's listed  scroll down
[06:56] <osiris> its easy
[06:56] <AbortD> unless someone shows me im screwed
[06:56] <osiris> edit xorg, and restart X
[06:56] <coty> what do you mean listed scroll down
[06:56] <osiris> gimme a shell account on it and ill DO it
[06:56] <coty> i cant scroll down
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> just back up the old one first, for the love of god
[06:56] <AbortD> pastebin the xorg
[06:56] <osiris> its not the bloody hard
[06:57] <intelikey> coty yes in konsole enter# lshw | less #
[06:57] <AbortD> it is backed
[06:57] <AbortD> i dunno wtf u all are saying to comment out
[06:57] <AbortD> i see like 50 lines with wacom on it
[06:57] <intelikey> coty what does it say ?
[06:57] <coty> alot of stuff
[06:57] <ubuntu> is it possible to mount c:/ or d:/ both are hdds.. im using a desktop cd
[06:58] <daskreech2> !paste | coty
[06:58] <ubotu> coty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:58] <intelikey> coty good  that's all the avalable hardware in your box.   scroll down and find the display
[06:58] <coty> ok
[06:58] <coty> found it
[06:58] <intelikey> daskreech2 he's just looking for the grafix card in the lshw output
[06:58] <coty> product: 82810 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] 
[06:58] <coty>              vendor: Intel Corporation
[06:59] <intelikey> good job coty  :)
[06:59] <daskreech2> intelikey: then use -C :-p
[06:59] <coty> is that it
[06:59] <intelikey> coty yep
[06:59] <osiris> AbortD, make a backup of your xorg.conf file while i work on this
[06:59] <coty> i wonder if i gave an ok graphics card
[06:59] <coty> Will i need a good one
[06:59] <AbortD> k
[07:00] <AbortD> its backed up
[07:00] <AbortD> i gotta pee brb
[07:00] <intelikey> coty "i810" is decent.
[07:00] <coty> cool
[07:00] <coty> so i can do it
[07:00] <intelikey> coty what is "it"  remember i just came in
[07:00] <coty> i can have BERYL
[07:01] <intelikey> oh... that....   i don't know.
[07:01] <coty> ??
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> AbortD: try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12721/
[07:01] <intelikey> coty ask in the other channel
[07:01] <intelikey> !beryl | coty
[07:01] <ubotu> coty: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:01] <osiris> AbortD, http://rafb.net/p/Y4BvzP21.nln.html
[07:02] <coty> there not awnsering
[07:02] <intelikey> be patient
[07:02] <coty> they are not much of a help
[07:02] <daskreech2> good night all
[07:02] <daskreech2> intelikey: coty needs more help with wifi :-)
[07:02] <intelikey> daskreech2 not i
[07:02] <coty> lets get beryl running first
[07:03] <coty> i feel like making my screen go crazy
[07:03] <osiris> AbortD, that should force the resolutiuon to always be 1600x1200
[07:03] <daskreech2> good night
[07:04] <coty> cya
[07:05] <coty> no one at all is helping
[07:05] <coty> not a singal bit
[07:05] <osiris> i dont do beryl
[07:05] <osiris> i do E or not at all
[07:05] <osiris> and i aint done that in a bit
[07:06] <intelikey> coty me neither.  don't know how to help with what i don't have/use
[07:06] <coty> its ok thanks anyways
[07:07] <intelikey> coty and do try to keep in mind that almost everyone here is simply another linux user like your self.   no pay, no glory, no name up in lights for helping you or anyone else.  it's all violenteer
[07:07] <coty> yeap
[07:07] <coty> i know
[07:08] <coty> You guys help with kubuntu
[07:08] <coty> and
[07:08] <coty> i help with the PSP
[07:08] <osiris> and i help with voip, and home audio/video
[07:09] <intelikey> if you don't get the info you need in here try  #ubuntu    or  ##linux    or   ##linuxhelp
[07:09] <ForgeAus> PSP?
[07:09] <coty> ok
[07:09] <ForgeAus> I know its playstation portable but what kind of help
[07:09] <intelikey> Jucato is our networking expert.
[07:09] <coty> Hacking
[07:09] <genii> I like madeup words like violenteer :)
[07:09] <Jucato> :)
[07:09] <intelikey> :)
[07:09] <osiris> abortD needs to get off a proied connection
[07:09] <Jucato> oh really? me? networking? :D
[07:10] <coty> I help people hack it
[07:10] <AbortD> its like it doesnt save the freq i use
[07:10] <AbortD> thas why its messing up now....
[07:10] <intelikey> Jucato yeah.    show's what a spot we're in don't it....
[07:10] <Jucato> yeah
[07:10] <genii> AbortD You can specify frequency by using the modeline stuff in xorg.conf
[07:10] <AbortD> hoow?
[07:11] <osiris> AbortD, pm'ing it
[07:11] <genii> AbortD: There are usually examples in there
[07:11] <genii> If not I could likely find one thru google
[07:12] <AbortD> please?
[07:12] <coty> well i am installing the edubuntu
[07:12] <coty> desktop
[07:12] <genii> AbortD Tho freebsd-centric, this link shows some good examples http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
[07:12] <coty> I wonder what it looks like
[07:12] <intelikey> i don't even know what de it uses
[07:13] <intelikey> is edubuntu gnome driven ?
[07:13] <coty> i think
[07:13] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: yes
[07:14] <intelikey> ok then it will look a lot like ubuntu-desktop
[07:14] <genii> Yeah it lloks like. I installed it for the kids
[07:14] <thoreauputic> intelikey: edubuntu uses both gnome and kde stuff I think
[07:14] <coty> I will now have KDE, Gnome and edubuntu
[07:14] <coty> all on my computer
[07:14] <Jucato> edubuntu uses GNOME for it's desktop environment, but installs a mix of GNOME and KDE educational apps
[07:14] <coty> then i will get xubuntu
[07:14] <thoreauputic> Jucato: right
[07:14] <coty> i hear it is for weaker systems
[07:15] <acamargob> yep
[07:15] <intelikey> just add xfce4 and you pretty well have the whole shmeere
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> not really
[07:15] <Jucato> coty: for "lower" systems, and people who want it
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> define weater
[07:15] <Jucato> xfce is actually getting better and better
[07:15] <coty> I want all the ubuntus
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> weaker*...thats offtopic though
[07:15] <coty> and i missing any
[07:15] <genii> intelikey I prefer xfce actually
[07:15] <Jucato> genii: intelikey prefers CLI :D
[07:15] <coty> what is xfce
[07:15] <Jucato> coty: the desktop environment that Xubuntu uses
[07:15] <thoreauputic> fluxbox ftw !
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> its getting better and better than because of me :)
[07:15] <coty> oh
[07:16] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: come again? it's getting better and better than you? :P
[07:16] <genii> Jucato for servers I like CLI best too
[07:16] <intelikey> thoreauputic blackbox i say
[07:16] <thoreauputic> intelikey: :)
[07:16] <genii> Are they still developing blackbox? I used it years ago
[07:16] <thoreauputic> genii: sure
[07:16] <genii> thoreauputic: Cool
[07:16] <Jucato> twm, ion3, etc..
[07:17] <intelikey> genii i like it.  now that i learned a little about editing the theems
[07:17] <genii> fvwm2
[07:17] <thoreauputic> genii: flubox has more shiny bits though, like tabbing windows together etc
[07:17] <Jucato> there's a 2?!?!
[07:17] <thoreauputic> umm fluxbox
[07:17] <intelikey> flubox  that's sickening
[07:18] <intelikey> :)
[07:18] <thoreauputic> intelikey: yeah, that would fluxbox with a bug :)
[07:18] <Admiral_Chicago> lol @ Jucato
[07:18] <genii> flubox is what you call an infected Windoze machine ;)
[07:18] <thoreauputic> heheh
[07:18] <intelikey> :)
[07:19] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[07:19] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:19] <genii> sigh. so many window managers and so little time
[07:19] <AbortD> where in xorg do i set my hertz?
[07:19] <Jucato> :D
[07:20] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:20] <intelikey> my bx wont allow kicking self
[07:20] <Jucato> thoreauputic: I could have helped you :D
[07:20] <AbortD> genii
[07:20] <intelikey> well not without tweeking it it wont.
[07:20] <thoreauputic> intelikey: you lack op-fu ;p
[07:20] <AbortD> where in xorg do i set my hertz?
[07:21] <intelikey> thoreauputic no i mean in channels i own.
[07:21] <genii> AbortD I'm looking for a sample to show you, be patient
[07:21] <thoreauputic> intelikey: ah, I see - I use a script by seveas
[07:21] <AbortD> yes sir
[07:21] <AbortD> sorry
[07:21] <thoreauputic> intelikey: it allows autorejoin for ops etc
[07:21] <intelikey> if i tell it to kick me it just says "trying to kick yourself again intelikey?"
[07:22] <thoreauputic> intelikey: heh
[07:23] <intelikey> heh same message for /ban intelikey@*
[07:24] <intelikey> but i get the idea that bx was kinda writen for chan ops to begin with...
[07:25] <intelikey> has loads of auto kick auto ban auto ignore auto op stuff builtin
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> grr. wireless.
[07:25] <genii> AbortD: Where it has your resolutions put something like "1024x768_72" or "1280x1024_60"     or whatever your desired refresh is
[07:25] <Jucato> !offtopic
[07:25] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:25] <Jucato> (just for Admiral_Chicago's sake :D)
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i really hate wireless right about now
[07:26] <genii> AbortD: There is also a good sample xorg.conf here for more modeline examples and other syntax: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=82514
[07:27] <coty> has anyone used edubuntu
[07:27] <flaccid> !ontopic
[07:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:27] <Jucato> bah
[07:27] <flaccid> he
[07:27] <coty> all the work ubotu does
[07:27] <Admiral_Chicago> coty: i have, its very nice
[07:27] <coty> lets give her a snack
[07:27] <genii> bleh the _ in example above should be @ instead
[07:28] <coty> !botsnack
[07:28] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:28] <thoreauputic> !botsnack
[07:28] <thoreauputic> heh
[07:28] <coty> lol
[07:28] <genii> !opsnack
[07:28] <ubotu> Peanuts!
[07:28] <coty> admiral_chicago: what do you think of it
[07:28] <genii> I guess what the ops earn and what they eat is the same thing ;)
[07:28] <coty> what can you do with it
[07:28] <intelikey> !usersnack ?
[07:28] <Jucato> !no ontopic-#kubuntu is <reply> #kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usersnack ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about ontopic-#kubuntu yet, Jucato
[07:28] <Jucato> yikes
[07:29] <Jucato> !ontopic
[07:29] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:29] <Jucato> that's better...
[07:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I will probably have wireless problems next month, if/when I get a wireless router
[07:30] <coty> hey it is not on my menu
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i have one, don't even want to set it up
[07:30] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[07:30] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:30] <coty> I dont see edubuntu
[07:30] <coty> i just installed it
[07:30] <intelikey> coty it's not a new de.  it's packages added to the system.   you already had gnome
[07:31] <coty> oh
[07:31] <thoreauputic> coty: should be in the sessions choices on login
[07:31] <intelikey> coty look in the menu in the education section
[07:31] <thoreauputic> ah
[07:31] <coty> i see
[07:31] <intelikey> ban me.
[07:32] <coty> why?
[07:32] <intelikey> nothing.   bad joke.
[07:32] <thoreauputic> intelikey: are you testing something?
[07:32] <thoreauputic> intelikey: I was about to oblige :P
[07:32] <intelikey> thoreauputic only your nerves ???
[07:32] <tarelerulz> How do you get it to where you can download mplayer
[07:33] <dwidmann> !multiverse | tarelerulz
[07:33] <ubotu> tarelerulz: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:33] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: enable universe and multiverse
[07:33] <intelikey> !mplayer
[07:33] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[07:33] <intelikey> mplayer is int multiverse
[07:33] <intelikey> in
[07:33] <Jucato> is in*
[07:33] <dwidmann> it gives the same message
[07:34] <thoreauputic> intelikey: yeah, but having universe and multiverse is a Good Plan (tm)
[07:34] <dwidmann> Package: mplayer
[07:34] <dwidmann> Priority: extra
[07:34] <dwidmann> Section: multiverse/graphics
[07:34] <intelikey> thoreauputic sure i had not intended that to imply otherwise.  only explaining where to find it.
[07:34] <dwidmann> :P
[07:35] <thoreauputic> Jucato: he just explained :)
[07:35] <tarelerulz> How dod you enable the repostory
[07:35] <thoreauputic> intelikey: yeah, i was just throwing that in for those who think only having multiverse is enough ;)
[07:35] <Jucato> tarelerulz: the first link that was given by dwidmann
[07:35] <thoreauputic> Jucato: he didn't
[07:35] <Jucato> it will be moot... feisty will have those enabled by default
[07:36] <Jucato> but doesn't really affect intelikey... as he's on dapps
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Jucato: yes, all this repo support will be much easier
[07:36] <Jucato> thoreauputic: not to mention telling people how to do it in Adept!
[07:36] <Jucato> manchicken is my Adept hero for that :D
[07:36] <dwidmann> Jucato: indeed it does .. I've still got a few things to take care of on my feisty yet .. upgraded last/night, fixed things this morning
[07:36] <Jucato> or actually Riddell :D
[07:36] <intelikey> !offtopic again
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Jucato: much to my surprise the totem-gstreamer on feisty can handle most stuff ( with the right codecs)
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic again - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <intelikey> my turn...
[07:37] <intelikey> :)
[07:37] <Jucato> :P
[07:37] <tarelerulz> reason I ask Is I did what I thought to turn repos that I need
[07:37] <tarelerulz> I can't seem to get samba to work
[07:37] <dwidmann> kcmsambaconf (IIRC) makes it fairly simple to get samba working
[07:38] <dwidmann> it was something like that anyway
[07:38] <tarelerulz> I think the kubuntu I have is messed up in someway
[07:38] <tarelerulz> alot went wrong with it
[07:38] <tarelerulz> It is just the only I have
[07:40] <manchicken> What now?
[07:40] <manchicken> Jucato: You could send some traffic to my blog on how to use adept.
[07:40] <Jucato> manchicken: nothing. just proclaiming to the world that you're one of my Adept heroes :)
[07:41] <manchicken> Ah.
[07:41] <Jucato> kool. I'll have those links aliased to konvi :)
[07:41] <manchicken> BTW, my new job will allow me to release more free software :)
[07:41] <coty> is there a way to be on two servers at once
[07:41] <manchicken> I expect to have an AJAX framework for perl applications released by Q3.
[07:42] <intelikey> coty safe way    two clients
[07:42] <coty> yea
[07:42] <coty> but is there a way with one
[07:42] <intelikey> can be in more than one on most clients    but it's in the /newserver  command normally.
[07:43] <coty> ok
[07:43] <coty> it did not work
[07:43] <coty> what do i put after "/newserver
[07:43] <intelikey> if you disapear we'll know it not the right command...    /newserver irc.efnet.net
[07:44] <coty> ok
[07:44] <intelikey> efnet was only an examplt
[07:44] <coty> nope
[07:44] <coty> did not work
[07:44] <Jucato> hm.. what servers are you talking about? IRC servers?
[07:44] <coty> yes
[07:45] <Jucato> in Konversation? just add a server to the server list
[07:45] <intelikey> client makes all the differance.
[07:45] <coty> I want to be on more than one at a time
[07:45] <Jucato> coty: yes.
[07:45] <Jucato> I'm on 2 currently
[07:45] <coty> on the same client
[07:45] <Jucato> I can be on 3 if I wanted (or knew some other place to be)
[07:45] <coty> not on two clients
[07:45] <Jucato> yes
[07:45] <Jucato> one Konversation window
[07:45] <coty> how
 in Konversation? just add a server to the server list
[07:46] <coty> ok
[07:46] <Jucato> File -> Server List (or Press F2)
[07:46] <fr0nk> hi
[07:46] <fr0nk> is there a tool to convert .bin -> .iso?
[07:46] <tarelerulz> kubuntu has given me more problems then any other one I have use
[07:46] <Jucato> !info bchunk | fr0nk
[07:46] <ubotu> fr0nk: bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:46] <thoreauputic> !bchunk
[07:46] <Jucato> thoreauputic: :P
[07:46] <fr0nk> thanks
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Jucato: I ' m s l o w   t o d a y
[07:47] <coty> i think it is working
[07:47] <Jucato> thoreauputic: and to think that I was in the middle of typing a text message :P
[07:47] <intelikey> "slow children at play"
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Jucato: actually I'm usually  s  l  o  w
[07:48] <thoreauputic> ;)
[07:48] <coty> it is
[07:48] <coty> sweet
[07:48] <coty> thanks
[07:48] <Jucato> coty: told yah it would
[07:48] <coty> cool
[07:48] <coty> now i can be on all my psp irc channels
[07:48] <chipbuddy> so i really like yakuake mainly because it's a fast way to get to a terminal... but i'm sure there's some way i can just quickly launch a normal terminal... how do i do this?
[07:49] <intelikey> chipbuddy hotkey
[07:49] <thoreauputic> chipbuddy: make a key shortcut
[07:49] <Jucato> chipbuddy: K Menu -> System -> right-click on the Konsole entry -> Edit this item
[07:50] <chipbuddy> but even making it a hotkey, it still takes time to load it into memory. with yakuake the terminal is always open
[07:51] <Jucato> chipbuddy: then leave it open always, in the background or on a different virtual desktop
[07:51] <tarelerulz> I turned on the repos like it said all the one I have seen
[07:51] <fr0nk> nice
[07:51] <tarelerulz> and still just get kmplayer
[07:51] <tarelerulz> not must stright mplayer
[07:51] <fr0nk> ubotu: thanks worked fine
[07:51] <Jucato> !thanks | fr0nk
[07:51] <ubotu> fr0nk: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:51] <thoreauputic> chipbuddy: or use a faster terminal like aterm or rxvt etc
[07:52] <dwidmann> chipbuddy: true, but since kde 3.5.5, konsole loads really, really, really fast
[07:52] <fr0nk> lol arlgh
[07:53] <chipbuddy> please don't hate me... i'm actually using gnome and not kde... i came here because no one was responding in ubuntu
[07:53] <coty> what do you need help with
[07:53] <intelikey> chipbuddy konsole will be slow loading in gnome.
[07:54] <intelikey> chipbuddy try gnome-terminal
[07:54] <stdin> or xterm
[07:54] <Jucato> chipbuddy: we won't hate you for using gnome, but it doesn't really get you anywhere if you don't tell the truth
[07:54] <intelikey> probably not installed stdin
[07:54] <thoreauputic> intelikey: xterm is installed by default
[07:54] <stdin> intelikey: isn't it installed by default
[07:54] <Jucato> iirc
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Jucato: beat me again ;)
[07:55] <chipbuddy> i didn't think i was lying... someone suggested using konsole and i clarified where i was
[07:55] <Jucato> well :)
[07:55] <Jucato> you are in #kubuntu, so the presumption is that you're using Kubuntu... unless you say otherwise :)
[07:55] <intelikey> hmmm   i don't know if i have ever looked for on a default kubuntu install....
[07:55] <thoreauputic> chipbuddy: gnome terminal is rather slow to start but decent once started - and of course you can tab it
[07:56] <chipbuddy> actually... this channel seems way more friendly and comfortable than the ubuntu channel
[07:56] <thoreauputic> chipbuddy: my personal favourite is urxvt
[07:56] <Jucato> we get that a lot..
[07:56] <intelikey> shhh you'll swell our heads up.
[07:56] <thoreauputic> chipbuddy: less people, less busy, less harried ops :)
[07:57] <intelikey> boast not thy har
[07:57] <intelikey> :)
[07:57] <thoreauputic> chipbuddy: keeping #ubuntu in line requires a more determined mindset :)
[07:58] <tarelerulz> from what I understand you go in repos manage in adept
[07:58] <tarelerulz> and right click and pick enable
[07:58] <tarelerulz> to turn repos on right
[07:58] <intelikey> that's supposed to work.  then apply
[07:58] <intelikey> nothing is of much value until applied.
[07:58] <Jucato> tarelerulz: except that in the case of multiverse, you have to *add* the word, not just enable it
[07:59] <tarelerulz> oh really
[07:59] <tarelerulz> where do I add it
[07:59] <intelikey> on with the main restricted
[07:59] <Jucato> or with universe
[08:00] <tarelerulz> thanks
[08:00] <tarelerulz> I did not see that part
[08:02] <avalon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12725/ <-- Does someone mind checking this for me and telling me which drive on this list is my 300GB drive?
[08:02] <tarelerulz> I found the last part
[08:03] <tarelerulz> where it says main universal ,but how to make the multiverse part stay
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> grr....
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> wireless
[08:04] <stdin> avalon: that's difficult to tell without the top part of the output, besides, "fdisk -l" will tell you
[08:05] <intelikey> avalon sudo fdisk -l
[08:06] <Ash-Fox> A lot of security updates this week.
[08:06] <intelikey> oh stdin sorry.  not meaning to but in
[08:06] <tarelerulz> it all worked so thanks all
[08:06] <tarelerulz> I just need to read more
[08:06] <avalon> I see the drive I think it is, but when I go to mount it, it's like it doesn't show up
[08:06] <stdin> intelikey: it's ok :)
[08:08] <genii> heh
[08:10] <genii> intelikey I thought you might like that
[08:11] <avalon>  I'm going to try restarting and seeing if it pops up. This is seriously freaking me out because that drive contained some vital information and it's not under the drive letter it used to be on here.
[08:12] <ubuntu> HI
[08:13] <ubuntu_> AAA
[08:13] <genii> Damn capslock key. Someone needs to hide those things
[08:14] <Jucato> :D
[08:15] <genii> Put them right next to that ever-elusive "ANY" key
[08:15] <genii> Jucato :)
[08:15] <Jucato> hahah!
[08:18] <genii> Wow got quiet here. I guess thats a good thing if no one needs help :)
[08:19] <genii> eg: Either there are no problems or they are able to figure out their own path to a solution
[08:22] <Minataku> lol
[08:22] <Minataku> Wow... Freenode is kinda slow on the uptake
[08:22] <Minataku> I got a lag meter reading of 173.4s
[08:23] <Minataku> It must wait, like, 10m before dropping a client... or it waits
[08:23] <Minataku> Because it looks like I got everything I had missed
[08:23] <Minataku> lol
[08:23] <Minataku> Hi, genii :3
[08:23] <genii> Heya
[08:24] <Minataku> lol
[08:24] <Minataku> Oh... wait...
[08:24] <Minataku> XD
[08:24] <genii> Lots of fiber there :) All that shielding etc
[08:24] <Minataku> XD
[08:24] <Minataku> Sorry, lame joke X3
[08:25] <premier_> Ive been using linux since November, its been giving me a lot of trouble in weird ways.  Nows it stopped logging out correctly, forcing me to restart the computer. It goes back to a problem I had with the kicker
[08:25] <genii> bleh
[08:26] <premier_> See, yesterday, I caused the kicker to hang, and I crashed it with alt-ctrl-esc.  I couldnt get it to start back up again, so I logged out and logged back on
[08:27] <mike> fiesty does not work with atheros?
[08:27] <premier_> I got it to run, but it kept consuming all of the computer's resources.  I couldnt get anyone to figure out what it was, so I just restarted the computer.  Now it wont log
[08:27] <premier_> log out
[08:27] <pollyo> mike: What is atheros?
[08:27] <mike> atheros wifi
[08:27] <mike> lapy
[08:27] <genii> .kde/share/config/kickerrc
[08:28] <genii> ^ deleting will reset kicker to defaults
[08:28] <mike> Feisty is so much slower than Etch?
[08:28] <mike> any reason/
[08:29] <pollyo> mike: I would guess that if feisty is slow it is because they are still working on it.
[08:30] <mike> pollyo: likewise with etch
[08:30] <pollyo> mike: What is etch?
[08:30] <mike> debian 4.o pre release
[08:30] <premier_> genii, can/should I upgrade to feisty?  Is it more or less buggy than edgy?
[08:30] <mike> 4.0
[08:30] <mike> premier_: It locks up
[08:31] <mike> On both my pc's
[08:31] <pollyo> mike: Do you have a website that discussess debian 4?
[08:31] <premier_> genii, can I give you a laundry list of problems that Ive been having?
[08:31] <mike> pollyo: freenode,debian
[08:31] <pollyo> mike: Ok
[08:31] <mike> pollyo: I like Sidux
[08:31] <genii> premier_: If yer on Edgy I'd stick with that for the next few weeks til the first in-the-field bug reviews/fixes are in. Tho I'm not having any overly frustrating things with it yet.
[08:32] <genii> premier_: Well, at the moment I don't have oodles of time to help. but if you have one pressing concern I could hear it
[08:32] <mike> genii: atheros drivers have probs
[08:33] <pollyo> mike: I'm new to this.  What is Sidux?
[08:33] <mike> I installed ubuntu then ,sudo apt-get install kde ,,so far so ok
[08:34] <premier_> genii: I cant think of anything.  But, it just seems like Im having more problems than I did in windows.  I expect its just incompetance (mine) but its still frustrating.  How much trouble did you have when you first started using desktop linux?
[08:34] <genii> mike I'm using it on a wired laptop, so haven't had to deal with any wifi headaches yet. Tho I know lots of ppl are complaining about it, atheros and broadcom issues for example
[08:35] <mike> pollyo: http://sidux.com/
[08:35] <genii> premier_: I had lots of problems :) But then again it was RedHat... I think version 5.1 or so
[08:35] <mike> genii: Once the bugs are soeted it will be a nice distro,Just not as fast as debian?
[08:35] <mike> strange
[08:35] <premier_> the generic intel wifi that came with my laptop seems to be the only think that works correctly.  Stupid Dell.
[08:35] <mike> sorted^^
[08:36] <Nullbyte> premier_: Got wifi problems?
[08:36] <premier_> no
[08:36] <mike> I have
[08:36] <Nullbyte> mike: Oh. Whats wrong?
[08:36] <premier_> I got acpi problems.  Those are more annoying.
[08:36] <Nullbyte> premier_: Hell yeah
[08:37] <mike> atheros wireless indicates a connection but it is very flakey
[08:37] <Nullbyte> mike: Sure its the drivers fault?
[08:38] <mike> yes i have no probs with pclos,elive,sidux
[08:38] <genii> mike Well, since a generic kernel is the default (to install on the widest platform first time out) the default install will be slightly less impressive performance wise than say Sarge. But installing a kernel for your cpu will make it about neck in neck. Custom compile of course as always will squeeze out whatever your machine can do no matter on what originating OS
[08:38] <premier_> actually, does anyone know anything about acpi?  My computer will lock up every once in a while on boot ("Soft lockup on cpu #0").  It seems to be triggered by booting without a power cord, or with wireless turned of by the hardware switch, or both.
[08:38] <pollyo> Oh my... I hope these updates go well.  I stelected some new apps to install and its replacing things and installing a mess of software now.
[08:38] <mike> pollyo: feisty?
[08:39] <pollyo> mike: Yes.
[08:39] <premier_> the only way to fix it when that happens is to reboot without acpi
[08:39] <mike> a clean install I feel is safer
[08:39] <pollyo> mike: The other day I did an update and it killed my video driver.
[08:39] <mike> pollyo: fiesty is not so stable at the mo
[08:40] <pollyo> mike: For not being so stable I  haven't had many problems with it in my basic day to day use.  I'm far from a power user though.
[08:40] <genii> premier__ Ah, I heard something recently about this, has something to do with the power management system. When a laptop boots off AC it works fine but battery boot is messed. I forget if there is an immediate solution tho.
[08:40] <mike> Even with the bugs fixed it is slow,,p4,3.2 sata
[08:41] <genii> premier_: Do you have a dual-core cpu?
[08:42] <premier_> oh yeah, forgot that. lol
[08:42] <premier_> Intel dual core
[08:42] <genii> premier_:  Maybe try as a boot option to kernel:   notls
[08:42] <premier_> Im gonna build a pc this summer around an amd64, prolly dual core
[08:42] <premier_> notls?
[08:42] <genii> It prevents one cpu from racing and losing sync with the other
[08:42] <genii> yes:      notls
[08:42] <mike> premier_: My next build is amd/Nvidia
[08:43] <premier_> yeah, Nvidia or nothing
[08:43] <kraut> moin
[08:44] <intelikey> hey guys xterm aint acting right.    i have a warper script that calls     /usr/bin/xterm -bg black -fg gray -fs 18 "$@"
[08:44] <intelikey> but the fonts are always tiny tiny tiny
[08:44] <genii> notsc    (no timestamp counter) may also help
[08:44] <intelikey> anyone know anything i can do to change it ?
[08:44] <premier_> genii: is there anything I "lose" if I do these things?
[08:45] <genii> premier_: Not that I'm aware of
[08:48] <premier_> any of you guys use raid?  Im planning out my new compy, not sure If I should use raid and how I should set it up
[08:49] <genii> premier_:  How many drives do you have available to use for it?
[08:49] <tarelerulz> How do you play sub with mplayer ?
[08:50] <premier_> genii: well, I havent bought the drives yet.  Not sure what my budget is gonna be, but I might be able to afford 3 drives
[08:51] <ingo> hello everyone...
[08:51] <premier_> I was actually thinking I get two 40 gigs and put two-three os's (windows, kubuntu, debian?) and then get 1-2 big drives.
[08:51] <genii> premier_: For less than 4 drives I'd recommend mirroring. For 4 or more drives I'd use raid5
[08:51] <ingo> anybody hot on konqueror, more specifically, mouse gestures?
[08:52] <premier_> is there any utility to raid 0 (striping?)
[08:53] <Ryiel> !grub
[08:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:54] <genii> premier_: Just make the partitions of type linux raid. Then add them to a raid1 partition.
[08:54] <genii> premier_: Sorry, you wanted raid0 ?
[08:55] <genii> I'd avoid raid0 if possible. Either drive goes and the whole thing is kaput
[09:04] <premier_> genii: okay, just asking.  Im just looking up the wikipedia on raid.  Why isnt raid 2 used?  it sounds useful
[09:05] <genii> premier_: It's legacy from old (I believe) Sun or AT&T systems
[09:07] <genii> For anyone interested a detailed explanation of raid2 can be found here http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/raid/levels/singleLevel2-c.html
[09:08] <premier_> genii: whats new in feisty that I can look forward to?
[09:08] <premier_> Should I be looking forward to KDE4?  It sounds like there's gonna be some cool new stuff
[09:09] <genii> premier_: I'm not using KDE on my feisty box. I have XFCE on that (it's a slow laptop)
[09:09] <ingo> but kde4 only comes out in november...
[09:09] <dwidmann> premier: we might not see kde4 on a kubuntu by default til feisty+3 ...
[09:12] <genii> Mybe not even til 7.10
[09:13] <genii> premier_:  If you are really curious about Feisty and have lots of questions, there is a specific channel here for it, #ubuntu+1   :)
[09:13] <ingo> is there a special channel for kde/konqueror?
[09:14] <Jucato> genii: 7.10 = feisty +1 :)
[09:14] <Jucato> ingo: #kde
[09:14] <ingo> cheers
[09:14] <ingo> have fun
[09:15] <genii> Jucato Ah, I thought it went more like feisty+1 = herd something
[09:16] <Jucato> genii: "herd" (literally a group of fawns), is the codename for the alpha releases
[09:16] <genii> herd7 would be something arcane like feisty+2  etc etc LOL
[09:17] <Jucato> hehe no more herds now... beta has been released
[09:17] <Jucato> :D
[09:17] <genii> Yeah I'm holding off on updates til maybe april 3 or longer
[09:17] <dwidmann> so yes ... feisty+3 would literally be 8.10 ...
[09:18] <dwidmann> a forever from now :(
[09:18] <premier_> well, november isnt forever, feisty+3 maybe...
[09:18] <Jucato> well, they did indicate the KDE 4 *might* be available as updates or a separate CD when the time comes
[09:18] <premier_> when would that be?   2008?
[09:19] <ForgeAus> assuming it will be a 7.10 it might be 7.8 or 7.12 or something!
[09:19] <Jucato> hm?
[09:19] <ForgeAus> yeah kde4 :) should be good :)
[09:20] <dwidmann> It could easily fit into 8.04 ... problem with that being that it's an lts release. It's a matter of whether they want their first lts release to have such a major change or not
[09:20] <genii> 7.11 would be funny :)
[09:21] <genii> like the variety store
[09:21] <dwidmann> hehehe
[09:21] <Jucato> if feisty+1 would be late by one month, that would happen ehehe
[09:21] <premier_> how do they choose the numbers?  I mean, there was a 6.06, and a 6.10, right?  So why not a 6.07 or 6.08?
[09:22] <premier_> is it by the months?
[09:22] <Jucato> year+month
[09:22] <firecrotch> year.month
[09:22] <premier_> ohhh.....
[09:22] <Jucato> 6.10 = 2006-10 = 2006 October
[09:22] <Jucato> :P
[09:22] <premier_> 7.04 = april 2007?
[09:23] <firecrotch> right :)
[09:23] <Jucato> yesh
[09:23] <genii> premier_: Yes April this year
[09:23] <Jucato> in short, next month :D
[09:23] <dwidmann> 7.13 ..... the ubuntu release from the twilight zone?
[09:25] <genii> The prime number release :)
[09:26] <genii> I guess the 13th month should get named Ubuntember
[09:26] <chipbuddy> can i set a hotkey to minimize/restore a specific window (a terminal)?
[09:27] <premier_> how do I do the star thing?  "* premier_ is doing such and such"
[09:27] <premier_> chipbuddy: thats in the kde control panel under keyboards, it think
[09:27] <genii> premier_:   use   /me does something
[09:27] <genii> :)
[09:28] <premier_> chipbuddy: kde control> keyboards and mice > keyboard shortcuts
[09:29] <crazy_penguin> Hello
[09:30] <premier_> yeah, Im thinking I might want a version of windows on my new compy to play games, but I dont want to shell out money.  Is there a way I can copy the version of windows from my hard drive on my laptop to a new computer?  That would be cool...
[09:31] <pollyo> premier_: It is hard to move windows to a different hardware configuration. (at least the recent versions of the software)
[09:34] <premier_> XP?  yeah, Im just wondering what I can do, short of actual theft.  How hard is actual theft of windows, anyway?  I know they put in all the WGA stuff
[09:34] <firecrotch> premier_: Most likely, it won't boot
[09:34] <firecrotch> premier_: Do you have a normal XP install CD?
[09:35] <SillyLillian> Where am I?
[09:36] <premier_> no, it came with the computer
[09:37] <firecrotch> premier_: So you have one of those crappy hard drive image CDs?
[09:42] <premier_> firecrotch: yeah, the recovery cd that dell sends you.  I think its designed to not work on any computer besides a dell inspiron E1705.
[09:42] <pollyo> How do I determine my machines network ip address?
[09:42] <genii> pollyo: ifconfig
[09:42] <Jucato> ifconfig ?
[09:43] <Jucato> snap!
[09:43] <pollyo> Thank you.
[09:43] <Jucato> I so hate you, genii!
[09:43] <genii> heh :)
[09:43] <Jucato> :P
[09:43] <genii> Sorry for the typo :)
[09:43] <Jucato> should I take it after you dropped an 'o' in my name? :D
[09:44] <genii> :)
[09:46] <firecrotch> premier_:  Do you have to enter your XP activation key when you re-image the hard drive?
[09:47] <Cugel> Dudes, I have a problem with apt-get. There are dependency problems with some 'not fully installed' packages. How do I get rid of those packages to download and upgrade again?
[09:48] <firecrotch> Cugel: apt-get remove <packagename>
[09:49] <Cugel> I get lots of errors when it tries to update the fontconfig cache.
[09:50] <OkinawaInstructo> would someone beable to help me set up an external hard drive, i cant get my machine to mount it
[09:53] <premier_> OkinawaInstructo: what seems to be the problem?
[09:53] <premier_> or as we say,
[09:53] <premier_> !ask
[09:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:54] <premier_> :)
[09:54] <OkinawaInstructo> i try to mount an external hard drive and i keep getting the following error
[09:54] <OkinawaInstructo> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:54] <netdaemon> hello there...simple question
[09:55] <netdaemon> is there a way to purge a program, AND all its dependencies?
[09:55] <netdaemon> instead of just removing the deps
[09:55] <premier_> will it be possible, before kde4 is completely stable, to run kde4 alongside kde3?
[09:55] <Jucato> premier_: yes. it is possible now. but kde4 isn't that usable enough to be worth going through it all
[09:56] <premier_> OkinawaInstructo: idk. Is do you know what sda1 is?  I mean, what is your primary drive, right now?  hda1?
[09:57] <OkinawaInstructo> premier_:  yes, hda is the primary device, sda1 is normaly the external hard drive, i had it working about a month ago, disconnected it to use at work, brought it back and no workie
[09:58] <zouzou85> hii guys
[09:59] <zouzou85> i just installed kubuntu, and updated it , sofar everything was fine until i tried to install kxdocker,
[09:59] <zouzou85> i tried to install the .deb but didn't work, so i am trying the source
[09:59] <ForgeAus> I had trouble with kxdocker too, I use Kooldock
[09:59] <Jucato> !info kxdocker
[09:59] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[10:00] <zouzou85> can i post the error ?
[10:00] <ForgeAus> !info kooldock
[10:00] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[10:01] <zouzou85> honestly, i don't llike kooldock
[10:01] <zouzou85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12728/
[10:03] <Jucato> zouzou85: have you tried installing kxdocker from the repos?
[10:04] <zouzou85> didn't work jucato
[10:04] <zouzou85> does it seem like a missing dependency?
[10:06] <Jucato> hm..
[10:07] <CarinArr> kxdocker from the repository didn't work for me either
[10:07] <zouzou85> did you get it working tho, CarinArr?
[10:08] <CarinArr> no, i ended up using avant-window-navigator;)
[10:08] <CarinArr> which is nice btw
[10:08] <firecrotch> just tried to install kxdocker, and it's not working on Feisty
[10:09] <zouzou85> whhat's funny is that it went thru the same process with a different box, and it worked!
[10:09] <zouzou85> well, kinda worked!!!
[10:09] <zouzou85> lol
[10:09] <CarinArr> heh
[10:09] <CarinArr> "kinda"
[10:10] <zouzou85> the black background!!!!!
[10:10] <CarinArr> ah
[10:10] <zouzou85> the box's got an old video card
[10:10] <premier_> does anyone know the status or kubuntu on mactels?  according to the 7.04 roadmap, it should work, but does it work on the liveCDs?
[10:10] <firecrotch> Hrm... I'm liking kooldock, seems to be working nicely.
[10:11] <CarinArr> haven't tried kooldock, was running kiba-dock which was a bugfest
[10:11] <Cugel> Dudes, I fixed my errors myself. Full explanation (handy for some I presume) is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/76778  -- yes it was a bug.
[10:12] <zouzou85> guys where do you get kibadock?
[10:12] <CarinArr> i'm really liking awn tho, if i could only reduce the icon size
[10:12] <intelikey> ok wazup
[10:12] <CarinArr> uhm, can't remember.. i think if you google kibadock and ubuntu you should get quite a few results
[10:13] <CarinArr> tho, i personally wouldn't go there again unless you like having to restart your dock every 20 minutes
[10:13] <CarinArr> BUT maybe i was just unlucky;)
[10:13] <Jucato> intelikey: fortunately, the sky
[10:13] <intelikey> yeah.
[10:14] <intelikey> it would really be something if it wasn't
[10:15] <firecrotch> !info inetutils-inetd
[10:15] <intelikey> it is root
[10:15] <ubotu> inetutils-inetd: Internet super server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3+20051212-4 (edgy), package size 38 kB, installed size 136 kB
[10:15] <intelikey> run root run
[10:18] <zouzou85> if i install beryl from the repos, will i have probs?
[10:18] <intelikey> yeah
[10:18] <zouzou85> or is  it better to install it from source?
[10:19] <CarinArr> zouzou85: i'd recomment following this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[10:19] <intelikey> no i'm just saying that cause everyone seems to have some sort of issue with it no matter how they install it.
[10:19] <CarinArr> i never had any issues with it actually
[10:19] <intelikey> none ?
[10:19] <zouzou85> nice to know that!!!!
[10:19] <CarinArr> none that i can think of
[10:19] <intelikey> k
[10:19] <firecrotch> None. and I'm using Feisty
[10:19] <CarinArr> apart from when i minimize windows, the animation stalls for a split second before minimizing completely
[10:19] <intelikey> well that works for me.
[10:20] <CarinArr> buti don't know if that counts as an "issue";)
[10:25] <genii> "unexpected feature"
[10:26] <intelikey> yuch i had ff installed and didn't even know until i started to update and saw that it wanted to get 25m of updates    looked and it was ff...
[10:26] <genii> Well, time to go do some work :)
[10:27] <genii> a round of coffee on me and I'll see you all later
[10:27] <intelikey> genii kkk
[10:27] <intelikey> k
[10:27] <zouzou85> good one genii
[10:27] <intelikey> three don't look good... i added the forth.
[10:27] <genii> :):)
[10:27] <firecrotch> intelikey: What's wrong with ff?
[10:28] <intelikey> firecrotch it's ugly bloated and i wouldn't use it if i didn't have a browser.
[10:28] <intelikey> mainly takes up way to much space.
[10:28] <firecrotch> So let me guess... you use links?
[10:29] <ForgeAus> or w3c
[10:29] <intelikey> yep
[10:29] <ForgeAus> how about Dillo?
[10:29] <intelikey> links2 -g
[10:29] <intelikey> it's not bad.
[10:29] <ForgeAus> oh wait that requires a gui! sorry...
[10:30] <mrigns> <3
[10:30] <ForgeAus> so how do you see all the pictures in Links2?
[10:30] <intelikey> it's a bit on the homely side but ...
[10:30] <mrigns> 
[10:30] <ForgeAus> lol
[10:31] <intelikey> svgalibs + links2 -g [size] 
[10:33] <firecrotch> Hrm... links2 with the -g option isn't too bad, actually...
[10:34] <firecrotch> I gotta have my tabs though :)
[10:35] <intelikey> firecrotch try elinks
[10:42] <firecrotch> I sort of have to stick with Firefox though... kinda hard to develop a website when you're using a text based browser
[10:42] <vain> erm
[10:42] <vain> hello
[10:42] <vain> :D
[10:42] <firecrotch> hello, vain! Or is is Mr ?
[10:42] <firecrotch> *it
[10:42] <vain> i'm trying to make it  'Mr Vain'   :D
[10:42] <vain> but someone is already using it!
[10:42] <vain> it's not fair!
[10:42] <vain> buaaaaaa
[10:42] <vain> :D
[10:43] <firecrotch> You can always find out if the nick is actually active and if not, ask to have it purged
[10:43] <vain> yeah,yeah
[10:43] <vain> i would do that only if i knew how :D
[10:43] <vain> but nvm
[10:44] <vain> vain is good too
[10:44] <vain> oh
[10:44] <vain> i'm a Linux NeWb :D
[10:44] <mrigns> NOOOOB
[10:44] <vain> yeah :D
[10:44] <firecrotch> vain: How long have you been using Linux?
[10:45] <vain> dnow
[10:45] <vain> booted up on it 5-6 times
[10:45] <firecrotch> vain: how are you liking it so far?
[10:46] <vain> uhmm
[10:46] <vain> oh i like it
[10:46] <vain> i'm dissapointed a bit
[10:46] <vain> can't play mp3 files :D
[10:46] <vain> teh usual problem
[10:47] <chijin> that's very easy to fix
[10:47] <mrigns> which distro are u using?
[10:47] <firecrotch> !mp3
[10:47] <vain> althought i did all that --   sudo aptitude install libxine extracodes ... stuff
[10:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:47] <vain> ^
[10:47] <vain> lol
[10:47] <vain> nice bot :D
[10:48] <firecrotch> ubotu rocks!
[10:48] <ubotu> rocks: Make network sockets reliable in a transparent way. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-3build1 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 248 kB
[10:48] <firecrotch> Um... yeah...
[10:49] <firecrotch> !botsnack
[10:49] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:49] <vain> !botkill
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botkill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <vain> !botheadshot
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botheadshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[10:49] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:49] <Tm_T> vain: stop
[10:49] <vain> lol
[10:49] <vain> ok
[10:49] <vain> firecrotch:where are you from?
[10:50] <firecrotch> vain: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
[10:50] <vain> wow
[10:50] <vain> nice
[10:50] <vain> i'm from Croatia
[10:50] <vain> :)
[10:51] <vain> !help
[10:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:51] <tarelerulz> I have sub for movie ,they are in sub format and not some other
[10:51] <firecrotch> vain: I suggest we continue this in #kubuntu-offtopic (they don't like general chatter like this in the main channel)
[10:51] <tarelerulz> How would you find how to convert them or get mplayer to use them
[10:53] <chijin> it should work just fine
[11:00] <intelikey> .jpg files ?    what's a good free format for that ?   .png?
[11:28] <intelikey> _..$
[11:29] <chijin> there's no reason to convert jpg files
[11:30] <intelikey> is if you can't view them
[11:31] <intelikey> i have some binary code inside a perl script,  is that normal ?
[11:32] <chijin> jpgs should be viewable by default..
[11:32] <intelikey> $temp = "$_$scale";
[11:32] <intelikey> chijin default what ?
[11:32] <CarinArr> intelikey: what are you using that can't view jpg files
[11:33] <intelikey> CarinArr browser
[11:33] <CarinArr> what browser?
[11:33] <intelikey> views gif ok.
[11:34] <intelikey> let me see if i can find a png
[11:34] <CarinArr> must be a pretty crappy browser if it won't let you see jpgs
[11:35] <CarinArr> given the absolute majority of images online are jpgs
[11:36] <intelikey> lunx
[11:36] <intelikey> lynx
[11:37] <intelikey> it's kicking up some other app for the png's and gif's  but nothing on a jpg.
[11:37] <CarinArr> you can probably enable it to start something for jpgs
[11:37] <CarinArr> why you'd use lynx if you want to view images i don't know
[11:37] <intelikey> besides these weren't online.   not that location really matters
[11:39] <intelikey> i just kinda figured this image viewer "what ever it is" didn't do jpg...
[11:42] <intelikey> hmmmm says "ImageMagick"   pid is  8587 ttyp0    S+     0:01 display gif:/tmp/pIkHX.gif
[11:43] <intelikey> ImageMagick should do jpg's though, right ?
[11:44] <intelikey> Description: Image manipulation programs Imagemagick is a set of programs to manipulate various image formats (JPEG, TIFF, PhotoCD, PBM, XPM, etc...). All manipulations can be achieved through shell commands as well as through an X11 graphical interface (display).
[11:45] <intelikey> is jpeg near the same as jpg ?
[11:45] <_4str1> exactly the same
[11:46] <intelikey> then i wonder why it's not turning out anything on .jpg files....
[11:46] <intelikey> maybe i'll rename one and see if that's what it's looking at.
[11:46] <_4str1> intelikey: just rename jpg  tu jpeg
[11:46] <ffffu> !gnu
[11:46] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[11:47] <ffffu> !debian
[11:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[11:47] <ffffu> !distro
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <intelikey> _4str1 that doesn't seem to do it...  it may be in the lynx configs.... let me look there
[11:51] <_4str1> intelikey: what are you trying to do ?
[11:52] <mrigns> i cant get nvidia-glx working in feisty
[11:53] <mrigns> every time i write "nvidia" in the xorg x wont start
[11:53] <mrigns> until i change it back to nv
[11:53] <mrigns> !nvidia
[11:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:54] <Jucato> mrigns: you upgraded to driver 9755? check if your card is supported by the new driver
[11:54] <Jucato> mrigns: also, #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions
[11:54] <Jucato> mrigns: list of cards http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[11:55] <mrigns> i checked the list earlier
[11:55] <intelikey> _4str1 hmm  oh just playing around with pictures in the console trying new things i haven't tried befor.     the Imagemagick can display them it's in the lynx config not calling on some .extentions    i don't think i'll mess much with it though.    was also writing a script in the mean time.
[11:58] <intelikey> what's the best [ test  for a command ?   ! -z    ?
[12:05] <c1|freaky> does anyone have a ATI mobility X700 running with the default drivers comming with kubuntu? do they have any special configuration for compiz/beryl?
[12:05] <chijin> c1|freaky: edgy?
[12:05] <c1|freaky> feisty
[12:06] <chijin> c1|freaky: i'm running edgy and beryl with that card with the repo driver
[12:06] <c1|freaky> hm, o k
[12:06] <chijin> i could give you my conf you want it
[12:06] <c1|freaky> no thanks im running the drivers from ati.com ;D
[12:08] <mart81> anyone else with a Dell m1710 laptop here?
[12:08] <__Xen> hello everyone
[12:09] <mart81> because feisty seems to output "Broken pipe: Underrun occurred." when i use recordmydesktop.
[12:15] <ledemente> Hi all.
[12:15] <ledemente> I want to find a way to add and edit emoticons on kopete MSN
[12:16] <dwidmann> ledemente, well, there's an emoticon pack for kopete floating around somewhere, maybe it's called kdeartwork-emoticons?
[12:16] <dwidmann> might be something worth looking at there, as for adding/editing .... I can dig that up if you want
[12:17] <ledemente> Oh? That'd be sweet as.
[12:17] <dwidmann> /usr/share/emoticons/
[12:18] <ledemente> Yeah, I added an image into there, but Kopete hasn't noticed it and there's no "code" for it.
[12:18] <dwidmann> You probably have to edit the emoticons.xml file for it to recognize it, I'd think
[12:19] <dwidmann> yeah, that's definitely it
[12:20] <ledemente> Where's that located?
[12:20] <ledemente> (locate... faileD)
[12:21] <dwidmann> in the emoticon themes folder, so, /usr/share/emoticons/sometheme/emoticons.xml
[12:21] <intelikey>  ls /usr/share/emoticons/
[12:22] <ledemente> ahh thanks
[12:23] <dwidmann> ooh, the coffee is finally starting to kick in a little
[12:23] <radu_> I have a problem with my newly bought keyboard
[12:23] <radu_> could someone help... the F keys do not work properly
[12:24] <intelikey> press the button that turns off the "extended functions"
[12:24] <intelikey> upper left corner
[12:24] <radu_> which do you mean?
[12:25] <Lynoure> At upper left corner I have the power button :)
[12:25] <intelikey> Lynoure that would work too   :)
[12:26] <dwidmann> I always thought the upper left button was "Esc" o.O
[12:26] <amayera> hi
[12:26] <amayera> does anybody know what I need /proc/kcore for?
[12:26] <radu_> well, I don't have such a power button
[12:26] <intelikey> dwidmann assuming it's one of those windows media keyboards with the extra 45 buttons and a scroller      then it's not esc
[12:27] <dwidmann> oh ... I've got a 64-key keyboard ..... or something like that ... guess I'm working in the other direction
[12:27] <ledemente> dwidmann: slight issue
[12:27] <ledemente> I've got the emoticon installed... but people can'
[12:27] <ledemente> t see it
[12:27] <radu_> see this please for the keyboard model http://www.xpire.com.cn/showproduct.asp?ArticleID=144&key=2
[12:28] <dwidmann> ledemente: no, but I'm more than willing to bet you can
[12:28] <ledemente> Oh I can.
[12:28] <ledemente> But surely... they should be able to see it?
[12:28] <radu_> I don't need the multimedia features on, what I need is just all the normal keys to work.... and the F keys do not work properly
[12:29] <dwidmann> I think that's the way it works. I'm not sure the msn custom emoticon thing works .... wait, maybe it can ledemente, one sec while I check something
[12:29] <ledemente> okay
[12:29] <ledemente> Oh, and you can call me Liam. XP
[12:30] <dwidmann> I've got it ledemente
[12:30] <dwidmann> erm, liam
[12:31] <dwidmann> in the buddy window, right click on the msn icon for the account, edit account, msn settings tab, "export the current emoticon theme to users", check it
[12:31] <intelikey> SYSTEM REQUIREMENT Windows    98/Me/2000/XP   Macintosh OS8.6  or higher       hehhe  they never mention linux.   linux don't exist as far as hardware makers are concerned...
[12:32] <ledemente> dwidmann: I'm trying it now. :D
[12:32] <dwidmann> intelikey, with regards to linux, what about cherry, I thought they thought linux existed
[12:32] <radu_> well, i've seen that... but it should yet work in some way I suppose
[12:33] <dwidmann> and my keyboard is advertised correctly ... agnostic ... the logo key consists of a small diamond
[12:33] <radu_> as the rest of the keys work very well
[12:33] <intelikey> i didn't know cherry existed....
[12:33] <intelikey> ;S
[12:33] <dwidmann> They don't where I live, I think they're Europe only
[12:33] <ledemente> dwidmann: okay, next bizarre thing, they can see something... it's a white box.
[12:34] <dwidmann> ledemente, guess we're getting somewhere now eh?
[12:34] <intelikey> radu_ i still think it just the press of one button that "turns off" the extended functions
[12:34] <dwidmann> liam, give it a minute, maybe it will load for them momentarily or something, or perhaps, on an off c hance, you might want to restart kopete
[12:34] <ledemente> Perhaps... I tried restarting.
[12:34] <ledemente> Well, thanks.
[12:35] <intelikey> my mother has one of those.  it alwasy defaults to 'extended functions on' but there is a button
[12:35] <dwidmann> radu_, perhaps changing the key layout in systemsettings would help?
[12:36] <dwidmann> ledemente, I honestly don't know ... I'd never played with it before, I just thought I saw it in the menu somewhere once ...
[12:37] <radu_> well, i tried changing it buth no result
[12:47] <ledemente> Rawr. Still nothing.
[12:50] <NGUK> anyone know the name of that utility that displays jpegs and gifs that are coming over the network - sort of like a graphical network sniffer for images?
[12:52] <philfo1> why is it that the icons and fonts on my computer are getting smaller?  how do I get them back to a larger more friendly size?
[12:54] <intelikey> stop setting the resolution to a higher and higher setting ?
[12:54] <philfo1> I haven't set anything
[12:54] <philfo1> and where is it that I can change that setting?
[12:55] <intelikey> try something in the 1024x800 range
[12:55] <philfo1> I know
[12:55] <intelikey> with a high refresh of course
[12:55] <philfo1> yes, yes.
[12:55] <philfo1> where is the utility to get that done?
[12:56] <intelikey> menu > system > resolution    or something like that
[12:57] <intelikey> i'm lagging about 19 minutes right now.
[01:05] <NGUK> !ping
[01:05] <ubotu> pong
[01:05] <c1|freaky> !ping
[01:07] <intelikey> ping who ?  ping me ?
[01:07] <NGUK> just a quick ping to see what the lag is - some ppl seem to be heavily lagged
[01:08] <smile> hey guys ..how much time takes to upgrade Dapper ? I have 128ko DSL (can have 158ko speed download )
[01:08] <NGUK> smile: gonna take a couple of hours at least
[01:09] <smile> NGUK: sure ? with 15 ko speed download ?
[01:09] <intelikey> NGUK yeah i am.   20 seconds +
[01:09] <NGUK> smile: 15k down?  make that more like 6 hours :(
[01:09] <raffytaffy> i have i915pm chipset - ditching all the i810 and ati/amd stuff is safe correct?
[01:10] <intelikey> or 16 hours.
[01:10] <smile> NGUK: 6 hour :-o
[01:10] <smile> NGUK: so i will keep my dapper ;-)
[01:10] <NGUK> smile: its not just the downloading, its the installing and configuring. that alone takes a fair amount of time
[01:11] <smile> NGUK: but 6 hour is too much .. maybe i will in a free time :-)
[01:11] <NGUK> smile: its automatic, give or take a couple of questions like "do you wanna keep your config or replace it with the package maintainer's version?"
[01:12] <intelikey> full release upgrade takes about hour and an half AFTER the get.
[01:12] <NGUK> If you're upgrading to Edgy, why not order an install Cd via ShipIt ?
[01:12] <smile> NGUK: how ?
[01:12] <c1|freaky> i'd upgrade to feisty
[01:12] <c1|freaky> ;p
[01:12] <NGUK> c1|freaky: I'd wait til its stable ;P
[01:13] <intelikey> it's beta now....  why wait ?
[01:13] <NGUK> cos beta != stable
[01:13] <intelikey> that's a joke ^  you hear me.  a joke.
[01:13] <NGUK> ;)
[01:13] <intelikey> :)
[01:14] <smile> NGUK: i have already ce of Ubuntu edgy but i want upgrade Dapper to Edgy not install directly Edgy
[01:14] <smile> NGUK: koz Edgy dont support my DSL modem
[01:14] <NGUK> to be fair, not had many problems with Feisty Beta.  Odd colours on menus got fixed quickly.  Key repeat got turned off this morning for no apparent reason. Atari ST emulator freezes up now :(
[01:16] <intelikey> i didn't say it was impossable, just incredable
[01:16] <NGUK> Worked before dapper, didn't after
[01:17] <intelikey> well this system is now as up-to-date as if it had internet connetction...
[01:17] <intelikey> i kinda wish i did have internet ....
[01:18] <smile> NGUK: i found many problems in (k)ubuntu .. i see Mandriva & Redhat r more stable !!
[01:19] <AmyRose> My old laptop stopped working with CPU speed changing because the kernel maintainers foolishly patched the p4_clockmod module without providing a way to bypass the "fix" on false-positives
[01:19] <NGUK> I had the bug logged in Launchpad since Dapper, but nothing has ever happened
[01:20] <intelikey> wait am i connected......     hmmm nope can't really be called an  "internet connection"  it's dialup.
[01:20] <AmyRose> I reported a bug in the legacy S3 video driver because the bug was deleted and marked fixed without an actual fix being committed to Feisty
[01:20] <NGUK> intelikey: RFC2549 may be the answer...
[01:20] <genii> intelikey Heh :) I have P2 boxes here that do voip over dialup buddy
[01:20] <intelikey> NGUK no it's too old.
[01:21] <NGUK> too old for carrier pigeons? :-o
[01:21] <iwan> anybody has used wine in kubuntu?
[01:21] <intelikey> genii that would be an improvement over this p1  :)
[01:21] <intelikey> iwan everybod but you
[01:21] <intelikey> y
[01:21] <genii> intelikey Geez :) You running ubuntu on it??
[01:22] <intelikey> genii yes
[01:22] <genii> stubborn so n so
[01:22] <NGUK> intelikey: with X ? or console only?
[01:22] <intelikey> 64m ram   no swap     and i do run kde on it at times
[01:23] <intelikey> genii just get the coffee
[01:23] <intelikey> :)
[01:23] <NGUK> iwan: I've used wine in kubuntu
[01:23] <iwan> NGUK..ok
[01:24] <intelikey> not the MinceR thing tho genii
[01:24] <genii> :)
[01:24] <iwan> i used to use civil enginer prog on win..can i do it on linux too?
[01:24] <philfo1> how do I set kmail to automatically do a send/receive?
[01:24] <genii> MinceR: Well if you hate coffee, then a beverage of your choice :)
[01:25] <genii> iwan what is the name of the program?
 i used to use civil enginer prog on win..can i do it on linux too?
[01:25] <intelikey> philfo1 better to use fetchmail and a cron job in my openion
 sap 2000
[01:25] <philfo1> ???
[01:25] <NGUK> iwan: its too specific an application to be sure - best thing is to just tr it
[01:26] <intelikey> philfo1 fetchmail/sendmail can transport and sort all your mail.
[01:26] <philfo1> is that through terminal?
[01:27] <genii> Geez that company is based in Berkely and they can't srite at least a BSD version of SAP 2000 ??? Weird
[01:27] <genii> srite = write
[01:27] <intelikey> philfo1 the setup would partly be in the terminal  then after it's setup as a cron job you don't worry about it anymore all your kmail activities are local.
[01:28] <intelikey> but that may be to "advanced" for what you want.
[01:28] <intelikey> checkout the settings in "kontact"
[01:28] <philfo1> thanks
[01:28] <intelikey> mybe you can do what you want there
[01:30] <intelikey> only no teeth marks.
[01:30] <NGUK> intelikey: about the only useful thing ESR has ever contributed
[01:30] <MinceR> genii: it was a stargate: atlantis reference :>
 i mean..is it possible to use program that run on windows to able to used on wine?
[01:30] <intelikey> NGUK heh
[01:30] <NGUK> iwan: yes, but some work better than others.
 any example?
[01:31] <mustasj> Anyone know of any k3b 1.0 deb packages out there?
[01:31] <genii> MinceR: Ah OK :) I don't get much time lately to use that newfangled thing called a "television" ROFL
[01:31] <MinceR> :)
[01:31] <NGUK> iwan: my windows XP key generator works nicely under wine :-D
[01:31] <NGUK> mIRC works under wine nicely too
[01:32] <NGUK> *cough* not that I use mIRC *cough*
[01:32] <CarinArr> of course
[01:32] <NGUK> epic2 and splitfire here
[01:32] <NGUK> not even a GUI :D
[01:33] <CarinArr> i just swapped from epic to irssi a few months ago
[01:33] <NGUK> better?
[01:33] <CarinArr> i barely notice a difference to be honest, just different key bindings
[01:33] <NGUK> fair enough.  I'll stick to what I know then
[01:34] <CarinArr> i just used to irc from a particular server that restricted irc usage
[01:34] <CarinArr> so i swapped to another one, which had irssi installed already;)
[01:34] <NGUK> I know the feeling - I ssh to my shell provider and irc from there.
[01:35] <genii> !info linsap
[01:35] <ubotu> Package linsap does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:35] <genii> hm
[01:36] <elbing> why is not there a ubotu in #kubuntu-es ?
[01:36] <elbing> france has one
[01:36] <NGUK> prolly cos nobody has translated one yet - why not volunteer?
[01:37] <elbing> oh we can have one in english and translate in real-time while we are tranlate an ubotu-es :p
[01:38] <elbing> s/translate/translating
[01:38] <aznsld> hi all
[01:39] <aznsld> is this room to ask noob questions?
[01:39] <NGUK> yeah, why not? ;-)
[01:40] <aznsld> ok.. I downloaded the tar file for noip
[01:40] <aznsld> www.no-ip.com
[01:40] <NGUK> I know it well, use it myself
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> whats the shortcut to make a window sticky ?
[01:40] <aznsld> then I extracted it
[01:40] <aznsld> how do u install it from there
[01:40] <aznsld> (started linux yesterday)
[01:40] <aznsld> =)
[01:40] <NGUK> aznsld: make
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> shortcut key*
[01:40] <aznsld> hmm ok..
[01:41] <NGUK> aznsld: when thats finished, sudo make install
[01:41] <aznsld> let me try it
[01:41] <genii> !info avocado
[01:41] <ubotu> Package avocado does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:41] <genii> hmm
[01:41] <CarinArr> mmm avocado
[01:42] <genii> someone needs to port a good cad program
[01:42] <genii> !usersnack
[01:42] <ubotu> Are peanut husks ok? The ops ate the nuts already...
[01:42] <aznsld> hmm
[01:43] <aznsld> aznsld@aznsld-desktop:~/temp/noip-2.1.4$ make
[01:43] <aznsld> bash: make: command not found
[01:43] <aznsld> Hmm..
[01:43] <NGUK> aznsld: ok, do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:44] <aznsld> ok
[01:44] <NGUK> aznsld: this will get you the required tools to build it :)
[01:44] <aznsld> aznsld@aznsld-desktop:~/temp/noip-2.1.4$ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:44] <aznsld> Password:
[01:44] <aznsld> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:44] <aznsld> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:44] <aznsld> aznsld@aznsld-desktop:~/temp/noip-2.1.4$
[01:44] <aznsld> hmmm..
[01:45] <NGUK> do you have adept_manager or synaptic open?
[01:45] <aznsld> lol
[01:45] <NGUK> or maybe the little update notifications icon is in your toolbar?
[01:45] <aznsld> synaptic
[01:45] <aznsld> =P
[01:45] <aznsld> my bad..
[01:45] <NGUK> I still forget that one myself, even after all this time :)
[01:46] <aznsld> I just wanna say thank you lots
[01:46] <aznsld> how long will this take
[01:46] <aznsld> ?
[01:46] <NiceGuyUK> depends on yer machine - 10 mins maybe less ?
[01:47] <aznsld> aznsld@aznsld-desktop:~/temp/noip-2.1.4$ make
[01:47] <aznsld> gcc -Wall -g -O2 -Dlinux -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" noip2.c -o noip2
[01:48] <NiceGuyUK> thats a good start :)
[01:48] <aznsld> noip2.c: In function get_all_device_names:
[01:48] <aznsld> noip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of strlen differ in signedness
[01:48] <NiceGuyUK> warnings are ok, its errors we wanna avoid
[01:49] <aznsld> noip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of strlen differ in signedness
[01:49] <aznsld> noip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of __builtin_strcmp differ in signedness
[01:49] <Defaulllt> ola
[01:49] <aznsld> noip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of __builtin_strcmp differ in signedness
[01:49] <NiceGuyUK> aznsld: leave it running for a bit and see if it finishes successfully.
[01:49] <NiceGuyUK> aznsld: just holler if it fails :
[01:49] <aznsld> noip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of strlen differ in signedness
[01:50] <aznsld> noip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of __builtin_strcmp differ in signedness
[01:50] <aznsld> noip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of __builtin_strcmp differ in signedness
[01:51] <aznsld> noip2.c:2153: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of strncmp differ in signedness
[01:51] <NiceGuyUK> make outputs to irc now? thats a novel "feature" :-p
[01:51] <aznsld> noip2.c:2155: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of __builtin_strchr differ in signedness
[01:51] <aznsld> hmm
[01:52] <aznsld> did it
[01:52] <NiceGuyUK> now its built, you can install it with :- sudo make install
[01:53] <aznsld> work
[01:56] <aznsld> another noob thing//
[01:56] <aznsld> umm where do I find no-ip in my folders
[01:56] <aznsld> umm
[01:56] <aznsld> those error I showed u
[01:56] <aznsld> were the end of it
[01:56] <aznsld> there is no more stuff installing
[01:56] <aznsld> i tryed making it again
[01:56] <aznsld> make: `noip2' is up to date
[01:56] <aznsld> so does that mean it is installed?
[01:56] <NiceGuyUK> the sudo make install thing should have installed it
[01:56] <NiceGuyUK> then to run it, just do sudo noip2
[01:57] <NiceGuyUK> the program should have installed into /usr/local/bin
[01:57] <NiceGuyUK> you can check by typing :- which noip2
[01:57] <aznsld> Please enter an update interval:[30] 
[01:57] <aznsld> what does that suppose to mean?
[01:58] <NiceGuyUK> how often do you want noip2 to update your IP address and send it to no-ip.com ?
[01:58] <NiceGuyUK> in minutes as far as I remember
[01:58] <aznsld> aww ok
[01:58] <aznsld> ok installed how do I open it?
[01:59] <NiceGuyUK> sudo noip2
[01:59] <NiceGuyUK> its commandline only, you won't see a GUI
[01:59] <aznsld> oh awesome
[01:59] <aznsld> how do I know if it is there
[01:59] <NiceGuyUK> it just gets your ip and lets no-ip.com know what it is
[01:59] <aznsld> is there a cmd that will tell me
[01:59] <aznsld> ?
[01:59] <NiceGuyUK> to check its alive, try ps aux | grep noip2
[02:00] <aznsld> yeap i see it
[02:00] <NiceGuyUK> I gotta go now, run outta lunchbreak :(  Hopefully someone else can carry on helping you if you have more problems
[02:00] <aznsld> awesome
[02:00] <aznsld> hey
[02:00] <aznsld> are u in here alot?
[02:00] <NiceGuyUK> started coming in yesterday :)
[02:00] <aznsld> awesome
[02:00] <NiceGuyUK> came in to ask a question, stayed to answer a few :)
[02:00] <aznsld> maybe we can meet at a later time?
[02:00] <NiceGuyUK> maybe.
[02:01] <aznsld> msn or aim or sumthing?
[02:01] <NiceGuyUK> see ya later, and good luck
[02:01] <aznsld> later
[02:01] <genii> Wow, lost in the web looking for some decent linux civil engineering prog and found a CLI structural analysis tool. Who'd a thunk it
[02:02] <aznsld> bye all
[02:07] <aznsld> what is the command to see my network ip?
[02:08] <jxn> netstat
[02:10] <jxn> @ aznld: try 'netstat | grep tcp'
[02:10] <jxn> ;-)
[02:10] <aznsld> ty
[02:10] <aznsld> had to do something for my router
[02:10] <gnomefreak> i dont see an ip there
[02:11] <jxn> hmm, then 'ifconfig'
[02:11] <jxn> should work
[02:11] <gnomefreak> that would be it
[02:12] <aznsld> awesome
[02:12] <aznsld> ty
[02:12] <aznsld> later all
[02:12] <Irayo> Okay, I have a file set to mode 770 (rwxrwx---) and in group 'bob'.  User 'jim' is in group 'bob'.  How come he can't read the file?
[02:13] <genii> Too bad CATIA isn't going to be open-sourced anytime soon :(
[02:13] <mustasj> Irayo: paste output from ls -la file
[02:15] <Irayo> mustasj: -rwxrwx--- 1 andrew bob 81505 2007-03-29 07:06 /var/www/main/index.php
[02:17] <mackyman> Hey everyone. Is there a way to make so that all files in /var/www always have the 773 permssion and owned by www-data:www-data?
[02:17] <mackyman> Couse when I put a file in there, I am the owner, and then some php files won't be able to chmod and some certain things
[02:18] <jxn> mackyman: log in as www-data, then put your files there
[02:18] <mackyman> kk, so I can't just copy them there from konqueror
[02:19] <mackyman> ( Like when I get some files from other ppl to work with )
[02:19] <mackyman> thx jxn for the help
[02:20] <jxn> try chown to change the ownd
[02:20] <jxn> owner
[02:28] <ondrejp> Hey guys.
[02:28] <ondrejp> I installed Beryl. What does it perform better with, nVidia or nVidia and XGL?
[02:36] <dwidmann> ondrejp: nvidia, most likely
[02:37] <Jonty> I've been installing Gentoo and using the same kde configuration as my current Kubuntu install which I'm now on. My taskbar is missing from the panel. Any ideas?
[02:37] <dwidmann> jonty: well, you could just try to add it back ... right click the panel -> add applet
[02:48] <embrapa> Hi .....im loving kubuntu!!
[02:49] <embrapa> chijin: hi
[02:51] <eilker> !whois
[02:51] <ubotu> whois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 272 kB
[02:51] <genii> ouchiews
[02:51] <genii> ouchies, even
[02:52] <embrapa> !eclipse
[02:52] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[02:52] <genii> Anyone survive?
[02:52] <_JuJuBee_> Morning All.
[02:52] <embrapa> bom dia _JuJuBee_
[02:53] <_JuJuBee_> I just put together a new server and wish to use it to block/allow internet access using access lists.
[02:54] <_JuJuBee_> I have a linksys wrt54g wireless router doing it now (sort of, but it is flaky at best).
[02:54] <_JuJuBee_> My question is, what do I install on the server to handle things like blocking URL's and access to the internet during certain times of day?
[02:55] <_JuJuBee_> I will connect the server to the wall and the wireless router to the server.
[02:55] <_JuJuBee_> Server has 2 NIC's.
[02:58] <jan___> i'm having a problem with "sudo" and root users
[02:58] <jan___> can someone help me?
[02:58] <apokryphos> !sudo
[03:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:03] <^V^> jan___: what exactly is the problem?
[03:03] <jan___> apokryphos: i know this
[03:03] <jan___> well ... i have "only" 1 user
[03:03] <jan___> and i did a usermod
[03:03] <jan___> to add this user to the root group
[03:03] <emp__> Hi, I upgraded to feisty and 'arts' is gone from the sound interfaces list in amarok
[03:03] <emp__> anyone know why?
[03:09] <jan___> now, when i want to "useradd" i get a message that only root can do this
[03:09] <apokryphos> is the arts engine even supported anymore?
[03:09] <jxn> emp__: because feisty is still beta. ;)
[03:09] <apokryphos> jan___: you're prefixing the command with sudo?
[03:09] <jan___> so i do "sudo useradd" and then it says that my user is not in sudoers list ^
[03:09] <emp__> oh so beta means no music anymore
[03:09] <emp__> oO
[03:09] <apokryphos> jan___: you really shouldn't be playing with sudoers or usermod.
[03:09] <apokryphos> jan___: looks like you removed your user from the admin group.
[03:09] <jan___> look; in /etc/group says it that i'm in root group
[03:09] <apokryphos> jan___: what the heck is the 'root' group?
[03:09] <jan___> and i'm able to list the /root dir
[03:09] <apokryphos> the 'root' group is called 'admin' on ubuntu
[03:09] <jan___> when i do this: cat /etc/group
[03:09] <jan___> first line is
[03:09] <jan___> root:x:0:jan (jan being my username)
[03:09] <apokryphos> why did you add yourself to the root group?
[03:09] <jan___> does that matter?
[03:09] <apokryphos> yes
[03:09] <jan___> i mean, i was just trying something
[03:09] <apokryphos> if you read the doc you'd find it was not the correct way to do it
[03:09] <odin__> root is a dangerous place to be, hence sudo :] 
[03:09] <jan___> is there any way i can add a new user?
[03:09] <jxn> jan__: recovery mode
[03:09] <jan___> i added myserlf to "root-group" because in my students book it says i have to do this to list /root
[03:09] <apokryphos> jan___: book...for ubuntu?
[03:09] <eagles0513875> how do i change from single clicking to double clikin
[03:09] <jan___> yup
[03:09] <jan___> linux in general
[03:09] <eagles0513875> is that book worth purchasing
[03:09] <apokryphos> jan___: so not ubuntu specifically then ;-)
[03:09] <apokryphos> jan___: distros can completely change the way things are handled. Especially with the traditional su model, Ubuntu deviates quite a bit.
[03:09] <jan___> look, we did this in school and there was no problem
[03:09] <apokryphos> jan___: use the documentation at help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <emp__> jxn: thx for the info
[03:09] <emp__> i needed the libxine-kde package
[03:09] <jxn> choose the recovery mode from the grub menu at startup, there you're always root.
[03:09] <jan___> usermod -g 100 -G 0 jan
[03:09] <emp__> but thx for the beta info
[03:09] <emp__> !
[03:09] <eagles0513875> what beta info lol
[03:09] <jan___> shouldn't change anything about nog being a admin anymore?
[03:10] <hw__> What are the tricks to copy the selection (from a non-RO) PDF in acrobat reader? Just "copy" does not work
[03:10] <hw__> non-RO == Copying is allowed
[03:11] <odin__> :D
[03:11] <jxn> try google. ;)
[03:11] <odin__> i know how to get it, just apt-get and aptiture didnt find it
[03:11] <odin__> isnt it in universe?
[03:11] <odin__> *aptitude
[03:12] <jxn> odin__: nope, because it is illegal in some countrys
[03:12] <Arwen> what's illegal?
[03:12] <odin__> bah, /me finds
[03:12] <eagles0513875> ?
[03:13] <jxn> libdvdcss is illegal. at least in germany. ;)
[03:14] <Arwen> heh
[03:14] <eagles0513875> interesting
[03:14] <jxn> yeah, but nobody cares. :-D
[03:14] <odin-arg> happy?
[03:14] <odin-arg> everything else is taken :p
[03:16] <asincrono> hi
[03:16] <jxn> hi
[03:17] <asincrono> how can I list all the network cards pluged in the machine?
[03:17] <gdiebel> asincrono: ifconfig
[03:18] <jxn> or lspci
[03:18] <asincrono> so, if I have a tarjet not listed with ifconfig it means that kernel do not know about it?
[03:18] <emp__>  is there any way to allow only one konqueror session and open new konqueror sessions in tabs of the one session that is allowed?
[03:18] <jhutchins_kc> genii: Yeah, that's quite a run, isn't it?
[03:19] <jhutchins_kc> Ah, must be the netsplits.  I see my name is my secondary nick.
[03:19] <jhutchins> There.
[03:19] <genii> jhutchins_kc: I thinkt hats the main reason :)
[03:20] <jhutchins> genii: There was once the suggestion that that was the proper way to do a secondary connection, add a "_" after your name.  Some irc client picked it up and automates addding "_"'s until it hits a unique nick.
[03:20] <jhutchins> I think it's stupid, given autocompletion.  You want unique characters at the beginning of your name.
[03:20] <Jonty> dwidmann: Thanks! (belatyedly)
[03:20] <jxn> asincrono: no, it means that its not configured.
[03:20] <genii> If your nick is something like _ to begin with it's pretty nasty :)
[03:25] <_JuJuBee_> genii : OK, I wil lchange it...
[03:25] <BenjaminB_> jxn: if asincrono would use ifconfig -a, he would see all interfaces known by the kernel, right?
[03:26] <qsu> hi people wich version of mesa is shipped with kubuntu edgy
[03:27] <Arwen> qsu, apt says 6.5.2 for feisty.... one sec, the edgy one must be close
[03:28] <Arwen> qsu, 6.5.1
[03:28] <jxn> BenjaminB_: yes, but probably just the interfaces, not all network cards
[03:28] <BenjaminB_> kk
[03:31] <qsu> how can i do an easy upgrade Arwen
[03:31] <Arwen> qsu, from what to what?
[03:31] <jxn> mesa, i guess
[03:31] <Arwen> qsu, ah, you don;t
[03:31] <Arwen> don't*
[03:31] <Arwen> unless you wanna try feisty out
[03:32] <odin-arg> any1 using beryl?
[03:32] <Arwen> mme
[03:32] <Arwen> me*
[03:32] <odin-arg> i got it to work yesterdat
[03:32] <odin-arg> *y
[03:33] <qsu> i need it Arwen btw how long is it compiling on a celeron 800 mhz
[03:33] <qsu> with 256
[03:33] <jxn> qsu: you could change your repos to feisty temorary, upgrade mesa, then change your repos back to edgy...
[03:33] <Arwen> compiling xorg? hours, if not days
[03:33] <odin-arg> but now if i start it up, spews out summat bout gfx modules and wont actually show any eye-candy, all sart fine tho :S
[03:33] <Arwen> jxn, which may or may not require him to upgrade the rest of his distro :-\
[03:34] <qsu> oke jxn, in wich repo is mesa jxn for edgy
[03:34] <jxn> its worth a try. ;)
[03:34] <qsu> for feisty
[03:34] <asincrono> thx BenjaminB_
[03:36] <jxn> qsu: i don't know
[03:36] <odin-arg> hrhr
[03:36] <odin-arg> Beryl works again
[03:36] <odin-arg> :] 
[03:36] <qsu> oke thanks guyes
[03:36] <qsu> guys
[03:36] <jxn> odin-arg: congrats.
[03:37] <odin-arg> i'm yet to figure out how to propperly use beryl, for now everything is just that little bit more fun
[03:37] <wolferine> jxn and odin-arg either of u use nvidia cards?
[03:37] <odin-arg> :] 
[03:38] <odin-arg> i am
[03:38] <odin-arg> 6800gt
[03:38] <jxn> nope, a ati x800
[03:38] <qsu> anybody luck installing beryl with an Intel Corporation 82815 CGC
[03:39] <rojanu> join #joomla
[03:39] <odin-arg> Envy ftw @ wolferine
[03:40] <jxn> unfortunately, beryl runs only with radeon for me. :-/
[03:40] <Arwen> same
[03:41] <BluesKaj> Mrning All  :)
[03:41] <odin-arg> i installed nvidia drivers manually
[03:41] <odin-arg> beryl failed
[03:41] <Arwen> #beryl :-)
[03:41] <odin-arg> used envy - which was so easy it felt like cheating
[03:41] <Arwen> and #nvidia
[03:41] <odin-arg> and it worked first time :D
[03:41] <Arwen> odin-arg, maybe it failed because you used envy?
[03:41] <jxn> :)
[03:42] <odin-arg> nah, envy wins :p
[03:42] <Arwen> I used it and it segfaulted my kernel...
[03:42] <odin-arg> with developer 1 on i get 300 fps flat on cs
[03:42] <odin-arg> and 100 on css
[03:42] <odin-arg> :] 
[03:42] <jxn> :->
[03:42] <BluesKaj> anyone with beryl on an onboard ATI ?
[03:42] <Arwen> I have a Radeon X300SE.... on CS I might get 40 fps and in CSS 10 fps
[03:43] <Arwen> BluesKaj, yes
[03:43] <jxn> same
[03:43] <odin-arg> oh my Arwen, i had that using the previous version on wine
[03:43] <Arwen> odin-arg, ha
[03:43] <odin-arg> with .9.33 it worked first time
[03:43] <odin-arg> even with the .msi installer
[03:45] <odin-arg> i just realised, can't u usermode +x here?
[03:45] <jxn> dunno  :-?
[03:46] <odin-arg> lots of ip's floating about
[03:46] <odin-arg> not like that on qnet
[03:46] <odin-arg> :p
[03:46] <shadowhywind> i love kubuntu!
[03:46] <odin-arg> we all do
[03:46] <odin-arg> :p
[03:46] <jxn> shadowwhywind: me too!
[03:47] <shadowhywind> my sound card finally fully works in the beta fiesty
[03:48] <odin-arg> im still on edgy, i'll wait for feisty to go final :p
[03:48] <odin-arg> kde 3.5.6 tho
[03:48] <jxn> me too. i have no time to rescue my system. :P
[03:49] <odin-arg> :p
[03:50] <odin-arg> u all using konversation?
[03:50] <shadowhywind> i have a kubuntu installed on a external as a test version, so if i screw that one up i still have a fully functional one on my laptop. hehe
[03:50] <smile> odin-arg: feisty is Beta now .. so what u wait ?
[03:50] <odin-arg> smile: for it to go final :p
[03:50] <jxn> exactly
[03:51] <compilerwriter> anyone know how to adjust the font size in konversation?  I can't seem to find it.
[03:51] <Jucato> compilerwriter: Settings -> COnfigure Konversation -> Fonts?
[03:52] <compilerwriter> I am with jxn I wait on stable releases as well.
[03:53] <smile> odin-arg: beta is like final release .. and many bugs were fixed
[03:53] <smile> odin-arg: I thinks it works fine :-)
[03:53] <Jucato> unfortunately... not everybody "can" wait on stable releases... otherwise, who'd do the testing? :)
[03:53] <compilerwriter> Thanks Jucato.  I thought I was never going to find it again.  Last time I used Konversation was via ssh on a laptop.  Increased the font size then.  Now it is huge one my monitor.
[03:53] <odin-arg> smile: but i'm still going to have to upgrade to final from beta, i'm in no rush :] 
[03:53] <smile> Jucato: good :-)
[03:54] <smile> odin-arg: why u dont test it and join us to make the final release ? ;-)
[03:54] <gnomefreak> odin-arg: normal upgrades will get you there
[03:54] <odin-arg> i just got beryl AND wine + steam working perfectly
[03:54] <odin-arg> i dun wanna risk losing that :p
[03:55] <compilerwriter> wine + steam?
[03:55] <odin-arg> steam, counter-strike installer platform thingy
[03:55] <jxn> nice
[03:56] <compilerwriter> I have never had much luck with wine.  I just run two machines.
[03:56] <odin-arg> im still running a windows machine
[03:56] <BluesKaj> Arwen, can you run DRI dependent programs like Google Earth , with beryl installed ?
[03:56] <Arwen> compilerwriter, yeah, same here
[03:56] <odin-arg> but wine is making great leaps
[03:56] <Arwen> BluesKaj, yes, but with reduced performance
[03:57] <Arwen> and on some cards, system instability
[03:57] <odin-arg> reactos - looks interesting aswell
[03:57] <anarky_> hiyas
[03:57] <Arwen> odin-arg, it doesn't work, trust me :-)
[03:57] <compilerwriter> !steam
[03:57] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[03:57] <jxn> afk
[03:57] <Arwen> that's why it's ReactOS 0.4 beta
[03:57] <Arwen> 0.4 alpha*
[03:58] <anarky_> !help
[03:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:58] <Arwen> steam runs on linux??
[03:58] <odin-arg> perfectly with me
[03:58] <odin-arg> installed css, cs, hl... etc
[03:58] <odin-arg> :] 
[03:58] <anarky_> who is available to assist a linux n00b?
[03:59] <BluesKaj> yeah Arwen, I experienced strobing effects with Google Earth when I tried beryl , so I dumped it ...I want mt Google Earth !  :)
[03:59] <Arwen> anarky_, how nooby? :-)
[03:59] <compilerwriter> !ask | compilerwriter
[03:59] <raffytaffy> google earth never work good
[03:59] <anarky_> well, experienced windows user, knowledge of hardware
[03:59] <Arwen> BluesKaj, yeah, on my ATI, opengl flickers when used with beryl
[03:59] <anarky_> just not linux
[03:59] <Arwen> anarky_, question?
[03:59] <anarky_> ok
[03:59] <odin-arg> i'll help as much as i can, but my knowledge isnt exactly extensive, i just google lots :D
[03:59] <anarky_> passowrd for root has been set, yet i cannot use this password to login as root
[03:59] <odin-arg> sudo
[03:59] <odin-arg> leave root
[04:00] <gnomefreak> anarky_: using sudo?
[04:00] <anarky_> i assume so
[04:00] <anarky_> yes
[04:00] <Arwen> anarky_, don't login as root, Ubuntu uses the sudo concept
[04:00] <odin-arg> u mean u sudo and the password u give is wrong?
[04:00] <Arwen> !rootsudo
[04:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:00] <Arwen> anarky_, ^^
[04:00] <gnomefreak> su has a tendancy to screw some things up
[04:00] <anarky_> yes i have "conversation with su failed" a lot
[04:00] <Arwen> sudo vs. su is a matter of choice, but...
[04:01] <odin-arg> i get that a lot
[04:01] <Arwen> might as well stick with what we got
[04:01] <odin-arg> i just reboot and it goes away
[04:01] <odin-arg> :D
[04:01] <anarky_> no the pw is right
[04:01] <anarky_> this is all the time
[04:01] <anarky_> every reboot
[04:01] <Arwen> anarky_, there a specific reason you need to login as root? if not, let root die
[04:01] <anarky_> oklemme rephrase
[04:01] <anarky_> i need root privelages to install stuff and make system changes
[04:02] <gnomefreak> anarky_: sudo
[04:02] <anarky_> you dont say
[04:02] <anarky_> sudo what?
[04:02] <odin-arg> eg. sudo apt-get installed proggy
[04:02] <anarky_> ah
[04:02] <odin-arg> eg. sudo apt-get install proggy
[04:02] <odin-arg> even
[04:02] <odin-arg> :s
[04:02] <Arwen> anarky_, to get root, you use "sudo <command>"
[04:02] <compilerwriter> anarky you need not be root do do that.  That is what sudo and kdesu are for.
[04:02] <gnomefreak> anarky_: depends what you want to do
[04:02] <Arwen> or, if you need a root console, you use either "sudo -s", "sudo -i", or "sudo su"
[04:02] <anarky_> install sound card for one
[04:02] <Arwen> depending on what you need
[04:04] <anarky_> told yo uim a n00b
[04:04] <Arwen> anarky_, anything you can do as root, you can do with sudo, trust me
[04:04] <anarky_> XD
[04:04] <Arwen> it's like UAC in Vista
[04:04] <anarky_> i dont use vista
[04:04] <Arwen> me neither :-\
[04:04] <odin-arg> any1 tried vista?
[04:04] <anarky_> nope
[04:04] <compilerwriter> arewn there is no need to curse at us?
[04:04] <anarky_> why would i? they finally got it right with xp i think
[04:04] <Arwen> odin-arg, nope, takes too much disk space
[04:04] <Arwen> compilerwriter, ???
[04:04] <gnomefreak> Jucato: you around?
[04:04] <odin-arg> i use xp pro x64
[04:04] <CarinArr> i just wiped my vista partition
[04:04] <Arwen> anarky_, bah, the only diff between XP and 2000 was uxtheme.dll......
[04:04] <odin-arg> lookin good so far
[04:04] <Jucato> gnomefreak: kinda
[04:04] <odin-arg> well "good"
[04:04] <odin-arg> tis never nix
[04:04] <odin-arg> :] 
[04:04] <gnomefreak> Jucato: it seems the issue will be fixed in nvidia-glx package
[04:04] <anarky_> yes, agreed, 2000 was not bad at all
[04:04] <CarinArr> never particularly planned to use it but came with the laptop so thought i'd give it a try
[04:04] <odin-arg> i was on win2k until last month
[04:04] <Arwen> CarinArr, how was the flip3d? lol
[04:04] <gnomefreak> Jucato: the geforce4 card issue
[04:04] <odin-arg> finally bothered to upgrade
[04:04] <Jucato> gnomefreak: oh goody!!! :D
[04:05] <gnomefreak> Jucato: thinking it will revert users to legacy
[04:05] <CarinArr> it just really annoyed me in general
[04:05] <CarinArr> it tries to be all pretty but just comes across as a clunky copycat
[04:05] <anarky_> hey while im here would anyone mind if i plugged a compilor i like to use?
[04:05] <Jucato> gnomefreak: to the 71xx legacy driver?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> i dont think we can make it support gf4 cards bewcause of the copyrite
[04:05] <gnomefreak> yes most likely as it stands
[04:05] <Jucato> gnomefreak: continue in -motu?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> they might change that as well
[04:05] <odin-arg> anarky_ mm?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> k
[04:06] <anarky_> anyone heard of freebasic?
[04:06] <Arwen> free.... basic?
[04:06] <anarky_> yes, freebasic
[04:06] <anarky_> "FB"
[04:06] <ins-dragonclaw> freebasic?
[04:06] <odin-arg> emacs ftw!
[04:06] <odin-arg> :D
[04:06] <anarky_> lol
[04:06] <Jucato> there's also KBasic and DarkBasic btw (but not in the repos)
[04:06] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[04:06] <anarky_> remember qbasic?
[04:06] <ins-dragonclaw> uh-huh
[04:06] <anarky_> fb is a 99.9% compatible 32 bit replica
[04:07] <Jucato> BASIC = not held by MS. it's a language.
[04:07] <anarky_> with a lot more newer stuff in it
[04:07] <ins-dragonclaw> I guess it's the 0.1% that's the killer, then
[04:07] <Jucato> but... anyway this is rather offtopic
[04:07] <ins-dragonclaw> mhmm
[04:07] <anarky_> only 16bit stuff
[04:07] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:07] <anarky_> i know just thought id tell you guys
[04:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:07] <anarky_> fgs
[04:07] <ins-dragonclaw> heh
[04:07] <ins-dragonclaw> anyone here read 1984 by George Orwell?
[04:07] <CarinArr> lol
[04:08] <odin-arg> lol
[04:08] <ins-dragonclaw> I think we have a few Thought Police present... :D
[04:08] <CarinArr> #kubuntu-offtopic should perhaps be #kubuntu-101
[04:08] <Jucato> you're free to express your thoughts in the offtopic channels. :)
[04:08] <anarky_> well go there so i can continue :D
[04:08] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[04:08] <ins-dragonclaw> i think i might as well add it to my autojoin list
[04:09] <Jucato> #kubuntu is a channel for Kubuntu-related support questions. While offtopic discussions happen once in a while, it's highly advised to take them to #kubuntu-offtopic . Let's keep this channel clean, and try to liven up that other channel :D Hooray for offtopics and #kubuntu-offtopic !!!
[04:09] <Jucato> oh there we are :D
[04:09] <odin-arg> offtopic is a bit of a dead chan :p
[04:13] <neil__> neil@cascade:~/mp3splt-project/mp3splt-gtk$ ./autogen.sh
[04:13] <neil__> Error: you must have autoconf installed to compile mp3splt-gtk !
[04:13] <neil__> anyone know waht this means? :S
[04:14] <CarinArr> neil__: you need to install automake
[04:14] <neil__> also mp3splt is in the repos, but mp3splt-gtk isnt, any way to request a file be added?
[04:14] <neil__> automake just via synaptic?
[04:20] <CarinArr> yeah, there're a few different version though, it will probably say somethin gin the docsfor what you're trying to compile regarding what version i sneeded
[04:20] <neil__> Not specified, assume the newest will be ok?
[04:20] <neil__> Can always remove..
[04:20] <CarinArr> neil__: yep
[04:20] <anarky_> well thx for the assistance
[04:20] <anarky_> cyas
[04:20] <neil__> Running autoconf... configure.ac:19: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_GTK_2_0
[04:20] <neil__> hmm
[04:20] <CarinArr> do you have the libs for gtk installed
[04:20] <neil__> I've never installed them, so I guess no.. what actually is GTK?
[04:20] <compilerwriter> !GTK
[04:20] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[04:20] <neil__> I have libgtk cil, bin, common, libgtk 2.0.0...
[04:20] <ninhertatil> hi all
[04:20] <smile> ninhertatil: hi
[04:22] <neil__> Looks like i needed the dev packages :)
[04:22] <neil__> Running autopoint... autopoint: *** cvs program not found
[04:22] <neil__> it carries on after this, so does it matter?
[04:22] <Arwen> OMG, wine is sweet! it ships with minesweeper!!!
[04:23] <CarinArr> neil__: i haven't a clue if it matters;)
[04:24] <neil__> ok :)
[04:24] <neil__> macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[04:24] <neil__> balls
[04:24] <neil__> is there an easy way to find which packages these things are in?
[04:24] <wolferine> i am trying to share a folder outside my /username with proftpd, I have done some research, and its best to use mount -- bind to do this, now, once I have it, I must add it into fstab?
[04:25] <wolferine> and will this cause any issues?
[04:27] <CarinArr> neil__: sudo apt-get install libtool ;)
[04:27] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[04:27] <jacquesdupontd> im trying to install ubuntu with gnome from kubuntu
[04:27] <jacquesdupontd> i was thinking that a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop would work but it seems it doesnt
[04:28] <Arwen> jacquesdupontd, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <jacquesdupontd> anyone know how to do ?
[04:28] <Arwen> why doesn't it work? in what way?
[04:28] <jacquesdupontd> doesnt work
[04:28] <jacquesdupontd> i go in the terminal
[04:28] <jacquesdupontd> i type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <wolferine> jacquesdupontd, what your doing is just installing gnome, not ubuntu with gnome
[04:28] <jacquesdupontd> and there is no packet
[04:29] <jacquesdupontd> i have been always told that we had to do xubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop
[04:29] <jacquesdupontd> not only gnome
[04:29] <jacquesdupontd> or xfce
[04:29] <Arwen> jacquesdupontd, there is no ubuntu-desktop package?
[04:29] <jacquesdupontd> no
[04:29] <Arwen> and no, you can just install gnome, but it won't be able to do much
[04:29] <jacquesdupontd> and it's brand new kubuntu edgy installed
[04:29] <phyerboss> hello, does anyone remember the command to clear the adept cache?...everytime i try to download or uninstall programs it keeps trying to grab a pakage that was broken
[04:29] <jacquesdupontd> i want the complete ubuntu
[04:29] <wolferine> jacquesdupontd, go to the ubuntu manual online and add into your repos
[04:29] <peaker> phyerboss: you can just delete the specific file in /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:29] <jacquesdupontd> so is there a packet ?
[04:30] <phyerboss> ok, thanks
[04:30] <chijin> or run apt-get clean
[04:30] <Jucato> phyerboss: sudo apt-get clean
[04:30] <jacquesdupontd> wolferine: i dont understand
[04:30] <peaker> jacquesdupontd: you don't want ubuntu-desktop package?
[04:30] <Arwen> jacquesdupontd, run apt-get update first
[04:30] <jacquesdupontd> i want for sure
[04:30] <Arwen> :-)
[04:30] <wolferine> jacquesdupontd, google ubuntu manual
[04:30] <jacquesdupontd> k
[04:30] <wolferine> first page comes up
[04:30] <jacquesdupontd> gonna run the update
[04:30] <jacquesdupontd> i come back in a few
[04:31] <jacquesdupontd> it's not on this computer
[04:31] <wolferine> gives you an explaination of all you want to do in ubuntu
[04:31] <neil__> hmm
[04:31] <neil__> trying to install libogg
[04:31] <neil__> macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[04:31] <neil__> oops
[04:31] <Arwen> wolferine, you mean the Ubuntu Bible? I read it... seemed too dumbed down
[04:31] <neil__> checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[04:31] <neil__> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[04:31] <neil__> anyone know what this means ? :S
[04:31] <wolferine> bible,  I dont think its a bible
[04:31] <wolferine> its a manual....
[04:31] <Arwen> w00t! w00t! w00t! k3b 1.0 is now in feisty
[04:31] <jacquesdupontd> thanks
[04:32] <jacquesdupontd> im so stupid
[04:32] <jacquesdupontd> ;)
[04:32] <Arwen> jacquesdupontd, the key note was when you said "I just installed kubuntu" :-)
[04:32] <jacquesdupontd> sudo apt-get update i was thinking that it was already done on the beginning
[04:32] <Jucato> !compile | neil__
[04:32] <ubotu> neil__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:32] <jacquesdupontd> huhu :)
[04:32] <neil__> thanks :)
[04:32] <neil__> !packages libogg
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about packages libogg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <Arwen> neil__, in a nutshell, you need build-essential
[04:33] <neil__> oh ok :)
[04:33] <neil__> ty
[04:33] <jacquesdupontd> but i was thinking about it but i was telling myself cant come from this and not doing it, a stupid guy in fact ;)
[04:33] <Arwen> also, whenever configure tells you you're missing something, don't get that package, get package-dev
[04:33] <Jucato> neil__: what are you trying to compile?
[04:33] <neil__> mp3splt is what I actually want
[04:33] <neil__> but for that I need libogg
[04:33] <jacquesdupontd> cool it's my new laptop
[04:33] <wolferine> jacquesdupontd, its all a part of learning
[04:33] <neil__> it wont accept the one I currently have, which is the only one in the repository
[04:33] <jacquesdupontd> yeterday i bought a hp i was so happy when i saw the tatoo on it
[04:33] <jacquesdupontd> wolferine: im ashame cuz i know very well ubuntu since a long time now ;)
[04:34] <Jucato> !info mp3split | neil__
[04:34] <ubotu> neil__: Package mp3split does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:34] <jacquesdupontd> so i came back to the shop
[04:34] <jacquesdupontd> and told them change me that shit
[04:34] <Jucato> bah....
[04:34] <neil__> !info mp3splt
[04:34] <ubotu> mp3splt: Splits MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files without reencoding. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 58 kB, installed size 164 kB
[04:34] <neil__> mp3splt is there..
[04:34] <neil__> however, mp3splt-gtk isnt
[04:34] <jacquesdupontd> you know the tatoo things make that you cant install anything else than a MS software
[04:34] <neil__> the 1st one is command line only..
[04:34] <jacquesdupontd> so i bought a fujistsu cuz i didnt saw it in the list of tatooed computers
[04:35] <ubuntu_> has anyone installed linux onto an ipod as a way of using it as an external hard drive for a computer?
[04:35] <jacquesdupontd> and when i tried to install ubuntu it was impossible to resize the first partition so i tought that i was going to go back again to the shop but this time VERY VERY NERVOUSLY
[04:35] <jacquesdupontd> and i told myself fuck that windows and put the option USE ALL THE DISK
[04:35] <jacquesdupontd> ;)
[04:35] <jacquesdupontd> and it worked, ffff
[04:35] <jacquesdupontd> ;)
[04:36] <[tasty] freeze> I dont actually want ot install it onto my ipod, but as a way of using it like usb hard drive; while also still keeping use of my ipod
[04:36] <bronze_0_1> jacquesdupontd: tattoo thing?
[04:36] <jacquesdupontd> yep
[04:36] <jacquesdupontd> in fact
[04:36] <neil__> thanks guys, build-essential sorted it :)
[04:36] <bronze_0_1> what is it?
[04:36] <jacquesdupontd> they put a link between the bios teh mother board and the hdd
[04:36] <jacquesdupontd> and if you broke anything between them
[04:36] <jacquesdupontd> you're computer doesnt start
[04:37] <bronze_0_1> jacquesdupontd: is there an official name for it that I can use to google?
[04:37] <jacquesdupontd> there's some computers that cant even install open office
[04:37] <neil__> Damnit
[04:37] <jacquesdupontd> you imagine
[04:37] <jacquesdupontd> i have french links
[04:37] <neil__> Just configure'd, make'd, and make install'd libogg from the site it told me too....
[04:37] <bronze_0_1> thats fine
[04:37] <neil__> but mp3splt still wont compile
[04:37] <jacquesdupontd> gonna check how it's called in english
[04:37] <neil__> ./configure: line 21448: `XIPH_PATH_OGG(,{ { echo "$as_me:$LINENO: error: Ogg needed! Download the latest version of libogg at http://www.xiph.org" >&5'
[04:37] <bronze_0_1> jacquesdupontd: I'd appreciate it.
[04:37] <jhoffman> !nvidia
[04:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:40] <jacquesdupontd> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/windows/mbr_1_disque_dur
[04:40] <Arwen> neil__, get libogg<something>-dev
[04:40] <jacquesdupontd> it's in french
[04:40] <jacquesdupontd> but i think it's also called tatoo in english
[04:40] <Arwen> neil__, wtf are you trying to configure? maybe I can help
[04:40] <jacquesdupontd> the computer you shouldn't buy are compaq hp
[04:40] <jacquesdupontd> gericom some times
[04:40] <neil__> I'm trying to install mp3splt-gtk , not in the repository
[04:40] <neil__> but it fails and says libogg is required
[04:40] <jacquesdupontd> and another one lemme check
[04:41] <neil__> I've installed about 6 other packages fine from the repos.. its just this one
[04:41] <jacquesdupontd> Packard bell
[04:41] <Arwen> neil__, that means you don't have the development headers, search for libogg and get the package that ends in -dev
[04:41] <jacquesdupontd> so the thing is to run buy you're computer now before it goes all like this
[04:41] <neil__> according to synaptic, libogg-dev is installed..
[04:41] <Flegma> can I have a question? :)
[04:42] <neil__> as is libogg0
[04:42] <gnomefreak> Flegma: ask one if you wish
[04:42] <jacquesdupontd> of course there is solution but really really weird and then you have big problems for compatibility
[04:42] <jacquesdupontd> hopefully it seems my fujitsu is not tatooed
[04:42] <Arwen> neil__, hmm, you might have to specify where to find libogg to the dev script
[04:42] <Flegma> how can I change a font of boot informations??
[04:42] <neil__> Arwen: was thinking that, seems a bit obscure though
[04:42] <Flegma> I mean, that screen when I turn off quiet splash
[04:43] <neil__> any idea where I should start to look?
[04:43] <Flegma> like SuSe have...
[04:43] <neil__> its in /usr/lib according to the doc.
[04:43] <jacquesdupontd> Flegma: you mean in grub ?
[04:43] <Flegma> small font..
[04:43] <gnomefreak> Flegma: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:43] <jxn> jacquesdupontd: sounds very scary to me. :-/
[04:43] <Arwen> neil__, hmm
[04:43] <gnomefreak> Flegma: but the font will not change you can disable splash though
[04:43] <jxn> i own a hp compaq laptop
[04:43] <neil__> actually
[04:43] <neil__> !paste
[04:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:43] <Arwen> neil__, tell ya what, I'll try to compile it myself and I'll send you the instructions if I can figure it out
[04:43] <gnomefreak> Flegma: font is hardcoded in usplash code
[04:44] <neil__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12752/
[04:44] <neil__> Arwen: ^
[04:44] <Flegma> gnomefreak:  so I couldnt??? :(
[04:44] <tuxick> lo
[04:44] <neil__> just noticed that notice
[04:44] <gnomefreak> Flegma: nope
[04:44] <Flegma> :( ok.thank you....
[04:44] <tuxick> i installed kubuntu for a try and i wonder how a kde based dist can come without konqueror
[04:45] <Flegma> tuxick: in kubuntu is konqueror..
[04:45] <tuxick> it even starts FF when i start konqueror from commandline
[04:45] <tuxick> Flegma: not on this 6.10 i installed
[04:45] <peaker> tuxick: you must have had an upgrade problem or so (happened to me). Install kubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <Arwen> neil__, hmm, check the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable
[04:45] <Flegma> tuxick: i have 6.10 with konq..
[04:45] <neil__> How do I do that? :D
[04:45] <tuxick> peaker: i installed 6.10
[04:45] <tuxick> it's not even in the install software dialog
[04:45] <peaker> tuxick: your kubuntu-desktop package for one reason or another is not installed. install it and it will put the entirety of kde in
[04:45] <tuxick> ok
[04:46] <Arwen> neil__, echo $< VARIABLE>
[04:46] <eagles0513875> i have a broadcom 43xx internal wifi card is there a wiki on how i can get it installed
[04:46] <tuxick> i don't like the "some reason" bit :)
[04:46] <bronze_0_1> jacquesdupontd: thanks!
[04:46] <neil__> Arwen: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
[04:46] <neil__> returns nothing
[04:46] <jxn> eagles0513875: i,ve heard it'll work on feisty
[04:46] <busfahrer> Excuse me, how do I get konqueror to thumbnail movies?
[04:47] <eagles0513875> really out of box
[04:47] <Arwen> neil__, hmm... dunno, I don't compile much so I guess you're on your own
[04:47] <neil__> ok :)
[04:47] <Arwen> also, libm3splt isn't in feisty :-\
[04:47] <neil__> thanks for the help anyhow
[04:47] <neil__> nope I'm trying to compile that too
[04:47] <eagles0513875> has anyone worked with clusters and openmosix
[04:47] <neil__> http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/gnu_build.php
[04:47] <neil__> following these
[04:47] <neil__> im doing libmp3splt, and mp3splt-gtkl
[04:47] <jxn> eagles0513875: yes, because of the new kernel. they,ve added drivers for broadcom cards.
[04:48] <eagles0513875> finally
[04:48] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:48] <TameLion> Hey everyone o/
[04:48] <eagles0513875> what bout better fglrx support
[04:48] <eagles0513875> or is that out of developers hands
[04:48] <TameLion> Can anyone suggest a system tray replacement for kde? Am using Beryl&AWN
[04:49] <Arwen> neil__, if you don't figure it out, you can do --disable-ogg
[04:49] <tuxick> where's that "kubuntu-desktop" in Adept?
[04:49] <Arwen> neil__, that might help
[04:49] <jxn> eagles0513875: it's up to ATI/AMD.
[04:49] <neil__> oh really? thanks
[04:49] <eagles0513875> which i despise
[04:49] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:49] <neil__> I don't even want ogg support :)
[04:49] <eagles0513875> anyone know how to get openmosix on kubuntu
[04:50] <Arwen> neil__, the wonders of reading the fscking manual, no?
[04:50] <neil__> Arwen: Does that go after ./configure, for libmp3splt?
[04:50] <neil__> haha :D
[04:50] <Arwen> neil__, yeah, ./configure <options>
[04:50] <neil__> still gives me the same error
[04:50] <neil__> damn you ogg, !
[04:52] <Arwen> neil__, ah well :-\
[04:52] <peaker> tuxick: its supposed to be there - or your sources.list is broken (which could also explain why stuff is missing)
[04:52] <Arwen> what's this package do that you can't live without?
[04:54] <tuxick> peaker: i just inserted CD and clicked ok several times
[04:54] <peaker> tuxick: maybe your downloads failed then, if you updated from the web
[04:54] <peaker> tuxick: did you?
[04:54] <tuxick> well yes, i installed from CD
[04:54] <tuxick> but in that case i should have got some warning/errormessage no?
[04:55] <peaker> tuxick: Error reporting does not always work very well, in any OS :)
[04:55] <tuxick> peaker: hehe really??
[04:55] <peaker> I know my downloads here failed in adept, and I got no report, instead, it borked some of my packages
[04:55] <peaker> and then apt-get -f install/dist-upgrade a few times fixed it
[04:55] <tuxick> anyway, i don't see any "kubuntu" in sources.list, is that normal?
[04:55] <peaker> tuxick: not in sources.list
[04:56] <tuxick> and why didn't adept show kubuntu-desktop?
[04:56] <tuxick> ok
[04:56] <peaker> tuxick: if you apt-get update, and your sources.list is complete, then your list of available packages should include a package called "kubuntu-desktop"
[04:56] <tuxick> yes, aptitude had no problem installing it
[04:56] <tuxick> finding it anyway
[04:56] <peaker> the update of package list (done when clicking update in adept, or "apt-get update" in cli) updates according to the listing in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <eagles0513875> is feisty worth getting now or waiting
[04:57] <jxn> eagles0513875: feisty is still beta... i'll wait until the final release. :-)
[04:57] <eagles0513875> ya but if i can get my internal wifi card to work lol
[04:58] <jxn> do what you want, i just dislike unstable software
[04:59] <jxn> !feisty
[04:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:59] <jay> any one know where i can get some icons for cairo-dock? Svg icons?
[04:59] <jxn> damn
[04:59] <jxn> jay: deviantart.com
[05:01] <jay> hmmm.. that means i'll probably have to do some resizin then right?
[05:02] <jxn> probably
[05:07] <aaroncampbell> I am having a strange problem.  Firefox can access ubuntuforums.org, but not Google.com.  However, konqueror can access both
[05:07] <aaroncampbell> It acts like the site doesn't exist....it tries for a while, and goes to "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.google.com."
[05:08] <SolidSource> !ipod
[05:08] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[05:09] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, open a terminal and type 'host google.com' if you don't get anything then its a DNS problem. Other than that, I'd point to a proxy
[05:09] <Yorokobi> either a global proxy in the Kubuntu network settings or in FF itself
[05:11] <Yorokobi> !rockbox
[05:11] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[05:12] <SolidSource> alright anyone know how to get ipod nano working in amarok? its not detecting it
[05:14] <Yorokobi> SolidSource, with my iPod (Gen 4) I just plug it into the USB port, let auto-mount/open konqueror, then open amarok and add the files directly from /media/ipod (or /media/sd?) rather than have amarok try to manage the ipod itself
[05:16] <_JuJuBee_> If I wish to add a second NIC to a ubuntu box, do I need to recompile or reinstall or something? or just insert it and it will work?
[05:16] <eagles0513875> what version of kde does kubuntu use
[05:16] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: nothing is even recognizing it though
[05:16] <peaker> _JuJuBee_: it should just work
[05:16] <_JuJuBee_> Thanks.
[05:17] <SolidSource> eagles0513875: depends on which version of kubuntu you are using
[05:17] <_JuJuBee_> I will try it then.
[05:17] <peaker> _JuJuBee_: but you will need to configure its settings
[05:17] <_JuJuBee_> Yep...
[05:17] <peaker> _JuJuBee_: where it gets its address from/etc
[05:17] <Yorokobi> _JuJuBee_, you may need to modify /etc/network/interfaces to enable it
[05:18] <Yorokobi> SolidSource, not sure what to tell you. Do you have the ipod package installed?
[05:19] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: which one?
[05:19] <eagles0513875> 6/10
[05:19] <eagles0513875> im just going to do a fresh install
[05:19] <eagles0513875> too much of a headache to do an upgrade
[05:19] <Yorokobi> SolidSource, just ipod
[05:19] <SolidSource> eagles0513875: ?
[05:19] <Yorokobi> You could try ipodslave as well
[05:20] <eagles0513875> download and reinstall should i just get the 32bit version or is support for 64bit any good
[05:20] <SolidSource> eagles0513875: 64bit takes a lot of initial tweaking
[05:21] <eagles0513875> what way
[05:21] <SolidSource> eagles0513875: but what is the problem you are having?
[05:21] <eagles0513875> just adding repositories to just do a full upgrade with adept
[05:21] <eagles0513875> it keeps break adept
[05:22] <SolidSource> eagles0513875: one...don't use adept
[05:22] <eagles0513875> i know but then how am i goign to add repositories
[05:22] <Yorokobi> eagles0513875, I say this as an old-school Debian user: don't use adept. I still use dselect and will occasionally use synaptic
[05:22] <SolidSource> eagles0513875: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:23] <eagles0513875> most of time i use cli command sudo apt-get install name of pkg
[05:23] <eagles0513875> ok solid what r the repositories i should add
[05:23] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic > eagles0513875
[05:23] <eagles0513875> im getting them from the wiki
[05:23] <eagles0513875> on the kubuntu webpg
[05:24] <SolidSource> eagles0513875: don't...just use source-o-matic
[05:24] <eagles0513875> ok then what do i do with em copy thim in to main repository list
[05:25] <SolidSource> yep....just copy right over them all
[05:25] <eagles0513875> ok
[05:25] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: nope...no luck, still not mounting it
[05:26] <Yorokobi> SolidSource, odd. Does your syslog show anything about detecting the device?
[05:26] <CarinArr> anyone running beryl on feisty around here?
[05:26] <eagles0513875> woot ty solid
[05:26] <Yorokobi> <-- Beryl w/edgy
[05:27] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: thats the problem, its not detecting it
[05:27] <CarinArr> Yorokobi: yeah so was i.. and it worked fine.. actually it still works fine but i don't seem to have the option to move windows between viewports when right clicking the titlebar
[05:27] <Yorokobi> hmmmm ... SolidSource plug it in the try 'ipod --insert' at the command line
[05:27] <tuxick> wouldn't it make sense for an installer to run dist-upgrade?
[05:28] <tuxick> distupgrade on 6.10 did quite a bit of work
[05:29] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: notta
[05:29] <Yorokobi> SolidSource, I'm out of ideas ...
[05:30] <Yorokobi> Have you checked the Ubuntu wiki and/or forums yet?
[05:30] <eagles0513875> woot upgradin distro
[05:31] <eagles0513875> hopefully my internal wifi will work out of box
[05:32] <ackbahr> Hello! knetworkmanager recently stopped loading spontaneously when KDE starts, but I'd like to make that hapen again.... Where's that file with the list of startup services? Thanks!
[05:32] <Yorokobi> ackbahr, one way: start knetwork-manager, then log out of X and log back in. If KDE is set to save your session it should start up with KDE
[05:33] <Enfilade> Hello
[05:33] <Yorokobi> or add a symbolic link to knetwork-manager in your ~/.kde/Autostart directory
[05:34] <ackbahr> Yorokobi: I'll try your second suggestion (I observed what you mentionned first, but it wasn't a stable result)
[05:34] <Enfilade> Brand new kubuntu user here :)
[05:35] <mart81> is it known that amarok is not working in feisty?
[05:35] <qsu> welcome Enfilade welcome to the club
[05:35] <jhutchins> mart81: Check w/ #ubuntu+1
[05:35] <NSCAD_Nathan> mart81 - Amarok works fine for me in feisty... on my home box
[05:35] <mart81> k :)
[05:36] <SolidSource> mart81: amarok works fine on my feisty machine
[05:36] <NSCAD_Nathan> sound is fecked here at worked tho :/
[05:38] <ackbahr> Yorokobi: I'm rather new to linking.... How do I locate the target?
[05:39] <Yorokobi> 'find / -name knetwork-manager' or 'locate knetwork-manager'
[05:39] <Yorokobi> you may want to add ' | grep bin' to the end of those
[05:40] <ackbahr> and if the second solution gives me a dozen hits, which is the executable?
[05:40] <ackbahr> Yorokobi: Ah, got it
[05:40] <ackbahr> Thank you!
[05:40] <Yorokobi> no prob
[05:44] <aaroncampbell> how can I see what nameservers I'm using?
[05:45] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: well...I guess whatever gen of ipod I have hasn't been tested...and itunes 4.9 doesn't even support
[05:45] <Yorokobi> cat /etc/resolv.conf is one way
[05:45] <Yorokobi> SolidSource, I'll have to borrow my wife's nano and test it out
[05:46] <aaroncampbell> how can I change them?  I think one is invalid (it says my DSL router is one...and it isn't)...and I think it's affecting firefox (more than other programs)
[05:46] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: mine is brand new...just got it today
[05:47] <Yorokobi> My wife got hers about a month ago so its probably the same gen
[05:48] <ingo_> Hi, I've got this xine problem, tried googling, forums, etc. but no joy. Here is the error message:  xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[05:49] <ingo_> there is a bug report, but ancient. Since then it appears to have been sorted, but not in my 6.10?
[05:49] <Yorokobi> ingo_, do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[05:49] <ingo_> yes
[05:50] <ackbahr> goodbye!
[05:51] <Yorokobi> what are you trying to play, ingo_ ?
[05:51] <ingo_> and libxine1 (apart from dgb and libxinerama1-dbg)
[05:51] <busfahrer> Excuse me, how do I get konqueror to display movie thumbnails?
[05:52] <ingo_> DVTB
[05:52] <ingo_> or dvbt
[05:52] <ingo_> :)
[05:54] <Yorokobi> I'm not familiar with dvbt ... have you tried vlc ?
[05:54] <ingo_> no kaffeine
[05:54] <ingo_> supposed to work out of the box
[05:54] <Yorokobi> kaffeine has never worked for me
[05:54] <ingo_> but does it matter which one I use? apparently a xine fault
[05:55] <Blu3> what is the recommended way to install win32 codecs in kubuntu?
[05:56] <ingo_> busfahrer, select settings, configure konqueror
[05:56] <SolidSource> Blu3: if you are using 32bit version...its in repos
[05:56] <Blu3> pkg name?
[05:56] <SolidSource> w32codecs
[05:56] <ingo_> then previews & Meta-Data
[05:56] <Blu3> hmm, adept isn't finding it
[05:56] <ubuntu> hello
[05:57] <Yorokobi> Blu3, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse
[05:57] <SolidSource> Blu3: you don't have the full updated repos then
[05:57] <ingo_> Blu3, got universe und multiverse_
[05:57] <ingo_> ah, ok...
[05:57] <Blu3> i thought i had, i'll double check
[05:58] <frojnd> what is a good ftp program?
[05:58] <ingo_> konqueror
[05:58] <frojnd> or known
[05:58] <SolidSource> Blu3: if that doesn't work
[05:58] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic > Blu3
[05:58] <frojnd> server, I need to setup my onw ftp server..
[05:58] <ubuntu> yes
[05:58] <Blu3> ok
[05:58] <busfahrer> ingo_: Yeah, but I can't find the corresponding setting...
[05:58] <Blu3> thanks
[05:58] <eagles0513875> anybody know much bout openmosix and adding the kernel to the list in grub and it working properly
[05:59] <eagles0513875> !openmosix
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openmosix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <Yorokobi> eagles0513875, find # kopt in /boot/grub/menu.lst and add extra kernel options there (leave the #)
[06:00] <Yorokobi> eg: # kopt=selinux=1
[06:00] <Yorokobi> to enable SELinux (partially)
[06:00] <ingo_> busfahrer, you trying to get it to play the movie or just show a picture?
[06:02] <frojnd> does anyone know for any good programs that support ftp server
[06:02] <busfahrer> ingo_: I just want it to show a thumbnail _for_ a movie instead of showing the generic "movie" symbol
[06:02] <Yorokobi> frojnd, openssh (ftp via SSH) :)
[06:02] <Blu3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse really only talks about what authors should do for the programs, it's not really an end-user guide
[06:02] <frojnd> Yorokobi :)
[06:03] <frojnd> Yorokobi: I need for that kind of use, that no ssh needed
[06:03] <Yorokobi> Blu3, I guess I should read those wiki pages before I dish them out :)
[06:03] <Blu3> :D
[06:03] <ingo_> busfahrer, if you go to where i said before, right hand window, scroll down to local protocols
[06:03] <ingo_> click on "file"
[06:03] <CarinArr> GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[06:03] <SolidSource> Blu3: just use the source-o-matic
[06:03] <ingo_> now hold mouse button over icon and it will come up a with preview
[06:03] <Blu3> yup, filling it out now
[06:05] <ingo_> alright, have fun
[06:06] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: ok...ipod nano don't work with linux yet...though there appears to be several projects to get them to
[06:06] <ubuntu> hello
[06:06] <ubuntu> please
[06:07] <Yorokobi> SolidSource, well, there you are, then.
[06:07] <Tm_T> ubuntu: please what?
[06:07] <Yorokobi> Thank you Apple, for making your hardware so different all the time
[06:08] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: yeah, but those projects aren't complete yet
[06:09] <ubuntu> excuse me, Tm T
[06:09] <ubuntu> i have problems, with instalation
[06:10] <Tm_T> ubuntu: well, we can't help if you don't tell exactly what is the problem
[06:11] <uft> 123456
[06:11] <ubuntu> specifically with my monitor
[06:11] <ubuntu> resolution
[06:12] <ubuntu> help me
[06:13] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, resolution in X or during boot-up?
[06:13] <Yorokobi> CRT? LCD? Laptop LCD?
[06:13] <SolidSource> LOL
[06:14] <Yorokobi> way off topic: anyone here familiar with BEA's Weblogic 8.1 server ?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi, sounds like a commercial application device
[06:17] <Yorokobi> Oh, it is. Its a royal pain in the arse
[06:17] <Ultima> h
[06:17] <Ultima> hi
[06:17] <Ultima> I Need help partitioning
[06:18] <Ultima> is anyone there?
[06:19] <ubuntu> is CRT
[06:19] <neil__> Whats wrong with it ubuntu?
[06:19] <neil__> give us as many details as you can
[06:19] <Ultima> I Get told that THis software has detected that the disk has at least 1 bad sector on QParted when resizing
[06:19] <Ultima> SInce I Need to change the freespace
[06:20] <Ultima> Since i'm using a 130gb harddrive and the freespace partion is only 7mb
[06:20] <Ultima> And when I try and mkae a extended partion I get a freeze
[06:20] <ubuntu> I advise to you that you use
[06:21] <Ultima> ?
[06:21] <ubuntu> Hiren,s boot
[06:21] <Ultima> How do you?
[06:21] <Ultima> I want to dualboot
[06:21] <Ultima> Since my brother uses my computer sometimes.
[06:21] <Yorokobi> So, ubuntu, what exactly is this resolution problem of yours?
[06:22] <Yorokobi> Ultima, your current OS is using all of the HDD space. Partition Magic may be what you need. Especially if your current partitions are NTFS.
[06:22] <Ultima> I can't use iyt
[06:22] <Blu3> arggg.  ok.  granted i'm new to kubuntu, but i'm a longtime linux person this is frustrating.  i've used the source generator with all options, used other people's sources, apt says w32codecs is referred to by another package but is not available, missing/obsolete/only avail from another source
[06:22] <Ultima> Its only a trial
[06:22] <Ultima> And I don't want to pay for a one off thing
[06:23] <Ultima> You know what I mean?
[06:23] <Blu3> what repos. line do i need to fetch w32codecs?
[06:23] <ubuntu> I want 1024x768
[06:23] <Ultima> Oh and i'm using the new beta :)
[06:24] <Enfilade> Damn linux distros have gotten user friendly since i last ran it
[06:24] <Yorokobi> Blu3, the only w32codec dependency is libc6 which should already be installed
[06:24] <Ultima> Agreed,its because no one wants to use Windows anymore.
[06:24] <Blu3> i have libc6
[06:24] <Ultima> Brb
[06:24] <ubuntu> but this with 800x600
[06:24] <Blu3> that's kinda required for nearly everything
[06:24] <Enfilade> I'm incredibly impressed with how easy it was to install kubuntu is
[06:24] <ubuntu> :-(
[06:25] <Yorokobi> Ubuntu, open the System Settings, click on Monitor, click on the Administrator Mode button, and change the res to 1024x768
[06:25] <Enfilade> I first started using linux with redhat 6.0 and mostly ran debian i'm reasonably accomplished, but its still amazing to see how easy this is to install
[06:26] <Ultima> Is there a free alternative to partion magic?
[06:26] <Ultima> Partition*
[06:26] <ubuntu> 1024x768 does not exist the option
[06:26] <raylu> Ultima: qtparted
[06:26] <raylu> could someone help me get beryl running on a nvidia card?
[06:27] <Ultima> I tried it
[06:27] <Ultima> It says my windows has a bad sector
[06:27] <Ultima> And i only have 7mb freespace
[06:27] <raylu> the fix the bad sector :D try ntfsfix
[06:27] <Ultima> so I Load windows?
[06:27] <raylu> no
[06:27] <Ultima> OK
[06:27] <raylu> ntfsfix in linux
[06:27] <raylu> (windows will do the actual fixin)
[06:27] <Ultima> Where?
[06:27] <horde> something I don't understand: when I open my /media/cdrom0 (which has a Data DVD in it) in konqueror it says media is empty.  However if I open the /media/cdrom link (linked to /media/cdrom0) the files show up.  'ls' on cdrom and cdrom0 in bash lists the files normally.  Can anyone explain?
[06:27] <raylu> in a console...where else?
[06:28] <raylu> horde: from what I understand, cdrom0 is softlinked to cdro
[06:28] <Ultima> help
[06:28] <Ultima> It asks what partition
[06:28] <ubuntu> it depends
[06:28] <Yorokobi> Blu3, are you using the seveas repo?
[06:29] <Blu3> i just added those two lines to my sources list and am trying again
[06:29] <Yorokobi> That's what I use
[06:29] <horde> raylu: uh huh.  If cdrom0 is -s linked to cdro but cdrom is -s linked to cdrom0 thy is there a difference?
[06:29] <horde> thy = why
[06:29] <Ultima> I get a permission denied
[06:29] <Ultima> Volume is corrupt
[06:29] <ubuntu> as root?
[06:29] <hakancen> arkadalar ubuntuya skypeyi nasl kurabilirim yardmc olurmusun
[06:29] <Blu3> as edgy-seveas or feisty-seveas?
[06:30] <Ultima> Can I run chkdsk on linux?
[06:30] <ubuntu> fsck
[06:30] <firecrotch> Ultima: It's called fsck
[06:30] <Ryiel> !iso
[06:30] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:30] <Yorokobi> Blu3, are you using edgy or feisty?
[06:30] <ubuntu> fsck --help
[06:31] <Ultima> uh?
[06:31] <Blu3> feisty, herd 4 cd
[06:31] <Ultima> I now get nothing
[06:31] <Ultima> It comes up with fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[06:31] <Yorokobi> Ultima, are you trying to mount a video DVD or data DVD?
[06:31] <Ultima> no
[06:31] <Ultima> I'm trying to fix my partition
[06:31] <Ultima> WIth chkdsk
[06:31] <Yorokobi> doh, got my conversations mixe
[06:32] <Yorokobi> nevermind. Ultima
[06:32] <ubuntu> ultima, you have installed ubuntu? or
[06:32] <Ultima> not yet
[06:32] <Ultima> My partition has a bad sector
[06:32] <Ultima> and windows is hogging all the space
[06:33] <Ultima> I Only got 7mb
[06:33] <Ultima> partition space
[06:33] <ubuntu> for that reason I advise to you that you use Hiren's boot
[06:33] <ubuntu> is very good
[06:34] <Ultima> I don't have really any CD's left
[06:34] <mart81> Ultima: i hear bad things about partitioning a very full disk, watch out when you do that...
[06:34] <Ultima> Its not full
[06:34] <Ultima> Its got 60gb space left
[06:34] <Ultima> though windows is hogging all the space
[06:34] <mart81> ow, hehe
[06:34] <Ultima> sda-1 is only 7mb
[06:35] <ubuntu> you can formatear it
[06:35] <Blu3> ah well, lunchtime, i'll figure it out later
[06:35] <qbert_> im having a problem with adept, its not finding any packages
[06:35] <Yorokobi> Ultima, you're going to have to find some way to resize the NTFS partition (or reinstall Windows on a smaller partition)
[06:36] <Ultima> Partiton magic does it
[06:36] <Ultima> And I only have a license for windows, I don't have the disc :(
[06:36] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[06:36] <Ultima> When I bought my comp I only got Windows XP pre instaled
[06:36] <ins-dragonclaw> I wonder if googling "Legal free windows download" would actually give results...
[06:36] <ubuntu> you proved with debian
[06:37] <ubuntu> or Knoppix
[06:37] <Ultima> Well I could use TinyXP
[06:37] <Ultima> Since its legal if you have a license
[06:37] <Ultima> to use Windows XP
[06:37] <horde> Ultima: you could try Usenet, Bittorrent, Ed2K
[06:38] <Ultima> Couldn't Kubuntu install in the freespace?
[06:38] <qbert> what would be a reasoin for adept not finding packages ?
[06:38] <Ultima> and not affect windows
[06:38] <ubuntu> not
[06:38] <Yorokobi> Ultima, you'll need at least 2GB for (K)Ubuntu
[06:38] <ins-dragonclaw> !adept crash fix
[06:38] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:38] <raylu> Yorokobi: I think he means the freespace of his NTFS partition
[06:38] <raylu> to which the answer is no
[06:38] <ubuntu> min
[06:38] <Yorokobi> ah, definitely no
[06:39] <Ultima> Damn
[06:39] <Ultima> Can I resize my free partiton
[06:39] <Ultima> Can't Magic Partiton do it?
[06:39] <fuzzy_logic> hellp
[06:39] <fuzzy_logic> hello
[06:39] <fuzzy_logic> i just have a little question
[06:39] <crookshanks> there's a version mismatch in nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source for i386 in every repository i've looked in so far, even though packages.ubuntu.com says that there isn't
[06:40] <Yorokobi> Yes, PQMagic can do it
[06:40] <crookshanks> kinda frustrating, X won't run with a mismatch
[06:40] <firecrotch> !ask | fuzzy_logic
[06:40] <ubotu> fuzzy_logic: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:40] <Tm_T> crookshanks: what version?
[06:40] <fuzzy_logic> ubotu: sorry
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <firecrotch> !bot
[06:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:40] <Tm_T> :p
[06:40] <Tm_T> fuzzy_logic: welcome aboard! (:
[06:40] <crookshanks> Tm_T: i'm looking for 1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.2, but only 1.0.8774 exists for nvidia-kernel-source
[06:41] <Tm_T> crookshanks: and release is...
[06:41] <fuzzy_logic> will kubuntu 7.04 going to be released at the same time as ubuntu 7.04?
[06:41] <Tm_T> fuzzy_logic: sure
[06:41] <Tm_T> or atleast should
[06:41] <crookshanks> Tm_T: according to the ubuntu package list, the release is 1.0.8776
[06:41] <Tm_T> crookshanks: I mean what release of Kubuntu
[06:41] <crookshanks> Tm_T: oh, edgy
[06:42] <fuzzy_logic> im planning to install the kubuntu package on my current ubuntu install
[06:42] <fuzzy_logic> will it work as stable as gnome?
[06:43] <crookshanks> Tm_T: it seems to be available for download from the website, but it's not in my repository... i'll just download it and install it manually i guess
[06:43] <Tm_T> crookshanks: err, do "apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[06:43] <Tm_T> in terminal that is
[06:43] <Tm_T> crookshanks: and tell the "installed: " line
[06:44] <edemilson> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:44] <crookshanks> Tm_T: 2.6.17.11
[06:44] <edemilson> alguem pode me ajudar a resolver este problema
[06:44] <fuzzy_logic> anyone?? help plz?
[06:44] <Tm_T> crookshanks: and that's your kernel version too?
[06:45] <crookshanks> Tm_T: yes
[06:45] <crookshanks> Tm_T: the weird thing is that my nvidia-glx is 1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.2
[06:45] <Tm_T> crookshanks: do the same to nvidia-glx package
[06:45] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, KDE has been very stable for me. I've not used Gnome in a long time so I cannot offer a comparison
[06:45] <ubuntu> edmilson
[06:45] <Tm_T> crookshanks: hmm I wonder where the problem is
[06:46] <fuzzy_logic> yorokobi: thanks ill give it a try
[06:46] <ubuntu> you have synaptic open
[06:46] <crookshanks> Tm_T: i've looked at some of the Packages.gz from mirrors, and they don't even have 1.0.8776 for nvidia-kernel-source
[06:46] <edemilson> ok
[06:47] <crookshanks> Tm_T: but if I do a package search on the website, it says it's there
[06:48] <Tm_T> crookshanks: nvidia-kernel-source, err, I don't have that installed, so I guess it's not needed ;)
[06:48] <crookshanks> Tm_T: it's needed to build the kernel module I thought
[06:48] <spawn57> crookshanks: isn't the nvidia kernel module in linux-restricted-modules?
[06:48] <Tm_T> it is
[06:48] <crookshanks> hmm
[06:49] <spawn57> pretty sure I used that to get the nvidia binary driver
[06:50] <crookshanks> spawn57: I did a dpkg -L, I see a lot of nv-* rather than nvidia*
[06:50] <Tm_T> crookshanks: linux-restricted-modules does contain nvidia drivers
[06:50] <Tm_T> or atleast should
[06:51] <spawn57> it does
[06:51] <crookshanks> i see "/lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.17-11-generic/nvidia/nvidia.mod.o", is that it?
[06:51] <spawn57> lemme check
[06:53] <spawn57> I think it's nvidia.ko
[06:53] <crookshanks> where as building the module with nvidia-kernel-source creates "/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/nvidia/nvidia.ko"
[06:54] <zulik> cze
[06:54] <crookshanks> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic doesn't have any nvidia.ko
[06:55] <spawn57> i got nvidia-kernel-common
[06:56] <spawn57> did you enable the restircted respositories?
[06:56] <dwidmann> nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx should have them right?
[06:56] <crookshanks> spawn57: yes
[06:56] <spawn57> ah arlight
[06:57] <crookshanks> dwidmann: i just did a search for nvidia.ko using the file searcher on the website, no package has it
[06:57] <crookshanks> unless it's called something else
[06:57] <Yorokobi> I have nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-kernel-source, and nvidia-glx installed
[06:57] <crookshanks> Yorokobi: what version of nvidia-kernel-source?
[06:57] <Yorokobi> 1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.2
[06:57] <crookshanks> did you have to download it manually?
[06:57] <Yorokobi> nope,
[06:57] <spawn57> me neither
[06:57] <dwidmann> perhaps it is something that is compiled during the installation ...
[06:57] <crookshanks> wtf... something's screwy
[06:58] <eagles0513875> ?
[06:58] <crookshanks> what mirror are you guys using?
[06:58] <dwidmann> us
[06:58] <spawn57> nvidia-kernel-common doesn't show any .ko either
[06:58] <spawn57> hong kong and japan here..
[06:58] <Yorokobi> I didn't find any nvidia.ko on my system
[06:59] <dwidmann> there's a rather strong possibility that it's one of the things made during the installation.
[06:59] <Yorokobi> I am using the generic repo and my university's mirror
[06:59] <dwidmann> dustin@terra:~$ locate nvidia.ko
[06:59] <dwidmann> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[06:59] <dwidmann> /usr/share/envy/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9631-pkg2/usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko
[06:59] <dwidmann> /usr/share/envy/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9631-pkg2/usr/src/nv/.nvidia.ko.cmd
[06:59] <crookshanks> I'm pretty sure that nvidia.ko comes from building nvidia-kernel-source
[07:00] <crookshanks> it's just that in my repositories the version of nvidia-kernel-source i need doesn't seem to exist
[07:00] <dwidmann> I think it's only made when you build the source of the driver yourself, from the .run package provided on the nvidia website
[07:00] <kozz> hmm, I might have missed something but the nvidia kernel module is in linux-restricted-modules
[07:00] <dwidmann> (it has to compile something rather using your kernel headers during the installation afterall)
[07:00] <zulik> where I found repositories for kubuntu 6.06 LTS
[07:04] <crookshanks> well, I just downloaded it manually
[07:04] <Jucato> !away > compilerwriter_a
[07:04] <crookshanks> hopefully it'll build
[07:04] <aaroncampbell> Does anyone know if any of the less expensive RAID cards have good (K)ubuntu support?  Or do you basically need to get a card with full hardware RAID (like 3Ware)
[07:04] <DaveDorm> wheeee
[07:04] <DaveDorm> howdy peeps
[07:05] <DaveDorm> I have forgotten how to force dpkg to take a package without dependencies
[07:05] <aaroncampbell> I need RAID5 for probably 5-6 500G disks
[07:05] <DaveDorm> I THOUGHT it was   dpkg --install <file> -force-all
[07:05] <DaveDorm> but no joy
[07:05] <DaveDorm> any ideas??
[07:05] <crookshanks> thanks for your help guys
[07:05] <Yorokobi> try dpkg -i --force-all <package>
[07:06] <DaveDorm> that may have done it
[07:07] <DaveDorm> thanks, Yorokobi
[07:07] <Yorokobi> np, DaveDorm
[07:09] <ludodu64> salut!
[07:09] <ludodu64> je voudrais configurer ma conexion internet
[07:09] <ludodu64> ya pas moyen?
[07:11] <Yorokobi> ludodu64, try #kubuntu-fr
[07:11] <Yorokobi> I do not know if anyone here speaks French
[07:12] <Tm_T> and if does, still english only ;)
[07:19] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: You do NOT want software RAID for that, you need a dedicted adaptor.
[07:20] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Preferably with a good sized cache.
[07:20] <vain> !kill_me
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kill_me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <raylu> vain: , what are you trying?
[07:21] <vain> erm
[07:21] <vain> i am new arround here
[07:21] <vain> and i don't know any amusing server
[07:21] <vain> so i'm trying to have fun :)
[07:23] <raylu> haha, ok
[07:23] <r00t_> i intstalled the server version of ubuntu then decided i wanted a kde desktop,so i used aptitude to install kubuntu but im missing all the system utilites and lots of stuff on my menu,what should i do?
[07:24] <equipo17> colombiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:24] <equipo17> what's up
[07:24] <Yorokobi> r00t_, how much extra stuff do you want?
[07:24] <equipo17> go to googleee+
[07:24] <aaroncampbell> thanks jhutchins ...do you know if there are any alternatives to 3ware?
[07:24] <vain> google sUXXX big time :)
[07:24] <Yorokobi> You could install the KDE meta-packages and get more than you need or use synaptic (or dselect) to pick and choose
[07:24] <vain> but i still use it.yes.
[07:25] <equipo17> 
[07:25] <r00t_> Yorokobi: just things like konversation adapt the basic stuff htat comes with kubuntus not there,i dont even have anything really on my system menu
[07:25] <r00t_> Yorokobi: i had to apt-get konversation
[07:25] <Tm_T> vain: equipo17: if you like to play around, take separate channel ;)
[07:25] <equipo17> hey
[07:26] <Tm_T> this is support channel thanks
[07:26] <equipo17> whats up
[07:26] <Yorokobi> r00t_, I'd start with apt-get install kde-core
[07:26] <r00t_> equipo17:  #ubuntu-offtopic #kubuntu-offtopic ##offtopic
[07:26] <r00t_> Yorokobi: thanks
[07:27] <equipo17> speak spanish please
[07:27] <equipo17> bryan lara
[07:28] <vain> TM-T:redirect me to a nice channel plz . :D
[07:28] <r00t_> anyone know the name for the mac like bar that where the icons zoom out/in when you run the mouse over them?not the mac bar you can put on from the configure desktop menu
[07:28] <Tm_T> vain: just join yourself
[07:28] <Yorokobi> r00t_, I think that requires Xgl and Beryl/compiz
[07:29] <aaroncampbell> Ok, I've been trying and trying to get the nVidia drivers working on my system.  It seems that maybe they don't support my card (8800GTS).  Until they do, is there any *other* way to get dual Widescreen (1680x1050) monitors working?
[07:30] <vain> Tm_T:i said i'm new arround here,and i don't know any good one.
[07:30] <vain> i thought u had something for me.
[07:30] <r00t_> !es | equipo17:
[07:30] <ubotu> equipo17:: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:30] <Tm_T> vain: not really
[07:30] <r00t_> vain, #kubuntu-offtopic ask there
[07:30] <vain> okie
[07:31] <alexi> hi people, im having a pmount issue. whenever i plug in a usb device it shows it in the file manager, but when i try and open the mount point i get: could not execute pmount
[07:32] <r00t_> how do i undo all proposed changes in aptitude?
[07:32] <vain> thx r00t
[07:32] <alexi> is there a certain group for using pmount??
[07:33] <r00t_> vain: if you start to type someones name in you can then pres tab,a little mark comes after it then when the user gets your message itll be red that way he sees it easyer,same thing with commands at the command line,welll they dont turn red but you get what i mean
[07:33] <alexi> or would using gnome stop my usb devices from being mounted right?
[07:34] <alexi> !pmount
[07:34] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[07:35] <alexi> define normal user...
[07:35] <alexi> :P
[07:36] <pioter> cze
[07:36] <sacha> wow
[07:36] <alexi> anyone know about pmount?
[07:36] <pioter> jest tu jakis polak
[07:36] <sacha> ia ne polak
[07:36] <sacha> ale russku znaju
[07:37] <jhutchins> !pl | pioter
[07:37] <sacha> alexi, es zapytannia?
[07:37] <ubotu> pioter: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:37] <alexi> nop
[07:37] <pioter> pomozesz mi
[07:37] <r00t_> !pl | sacha
[07:37] <ubotu> sacha: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:37] <sacha> ubotu: ne nuzdajus
[07:37] <ubotu> ne: Nice Editor, an easy-to-use and powerful editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.42-1 (edgy), package size 572 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[07:38] <pioter> kto mi pomoze
[07:38] <sacha> english chanal here?
[07:38] <peaker> amarok's collection folders dialog only shows /media and /home
[07:38] <peaker> How to add other places?
[07:39] <Jucato> !hidden | peaker
[07:39] <ubotu> peaker: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:39] <jhutchins> peaker: Look in the amarok help files.
[07:39] <Jucato> sacha: yes. English only
[07:39] <peaker> ah. thanks
[07:39] <alexi> anyone know about pmount?
[07:39] <Jucato> jhutchins: no. it's something Kubuntu did
[07:39] <alexi> i cant access my usb devices
[07:39] <jhutchins> alexi: never heard of it.
[07:40] <r00t_> how do i undo all proposed changes in aptitude?
[07:40] <pioter> kto mipomoze
[07:40] <alexi> its whats used now so usb stuff goes automatically into /media
[07:40] <Jucato> !pl | pioter
[07:40] <ubotu> pioter: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:40] <sacha> pioter: /join #ubuntu-ru
[07:40] <pioter> ale na stronie
[07:40] <BluesKaj> I remember p-mount cartridges for turntables :)
[07:40] <alexi> i lost all my groups the other wee
[07:40] <alexi> k
[07:41] <alexi> i wonder if thats why i cant auto mount usb stuff
[07:41] <zulik> pioter:  what up?
[07:41] <alexi> haha bash complete just killed gnome-terminal :P
[07:43] <jhutchins> Jucato: Ok, I just figured out what you meant about Amarok and the hidden file tree.
[07:44] <jhutchins> alexi: What you mean you "lost all your groups"?
[07:44] <r00t_> how do i undo all proposed changes in aptitude?
[07:44] <nico_> just quit aptitude?
[07:45] <jhutchins> r00t_: Just close it without applying them.
[07:45] <nico_> oh and hello btw :D
[07:45] <alexi> i accidentally deleted all the groups my user was in.
[07:45] <fr0nk> can somebody please help me either to get my virtualpc vm network support running or my charset fixed in order to use centericq properly? :D
[07:45] <jhutchins> alexi: That could affect it.
[07:45] <alexi> jhutchins: i just wondered if there might be a special group for auto mounting usb devices
[07:45] <Yorokobi> fr0nk, the answer is gaim :)
[07:45] <nico_> hm im not sure about gaim
[07:46] <nico_> to instable for me
[07:46] <jhutchins> alexi: I appear to be in: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[07:46] <r00t_> jhutchins: i still have several broken packages that shouldent be there
[07:46] <Gentix> I like to share a folder to a apple osx machine, how do I do this?? I've already installed samba
[07:46] <alexi> ah ty jhutchins i'll try adding myself to plugdev!
[07:46] <jhutchins> alexi: plugdev looks very likely.
[07:46] <nico_> tried to fix all broken packages in the edit menu of aptitude?
[07:47] <jhutchins> r00t_: I would use apt-get myself.
[07:47] <nico_> oh aptitude
[07:47] <nico_> wrong program :p
[07:47] <fr0nk> Yorokobi: no :D i want centericq, or anyway my charset fixed
[07:47] <fr0nk> &auml; for example does not work, too
[07:47] <jhutchins> r00t_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[07:48] <jhutchins> fr0nk: There is a #vmware channel.
[07:48] <nico_> does anyone know how to use the 3ddesktop program
[07:48] <nico_> ?
[07:48] <jhutchins> !beryl | nico_
[07:48] <ubotu> nico_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:49] <aaroncampbell> Ok, I've been trying and trying to get the nVidia drivers working on my system.  It seems that maybe they don't support my card (8800GTS).  Until they do, is there any *other* way to get dual Widescreen (1680x1050) monitors working?
[07:49] <c1|freaky> nico_: u need to start it and bind it to some keystroke afaik
[07:49] <nico_> i installed a 3ddesktop package with synaptic
[07:49] <c1|freaky> nico_: search google i can't remember
[07:49] <nico_> ok
[07:49] <kugillu> Hi
[07:49] <c1|freaky> its for a 3d view when switching between desktops
[07:50] <nico_> even better then vista then, another proof ubuntu is better then windows
[07:50] <aaroncampbell> !mp3
[07:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:51] <nico_> i just installed VLC, and made it my default mp3 program, works for me
[07:52] <nico_> strange, 3ddesktop is a gnome package?
[07:53] <nico_> i think i'm going to check the ubuntu-effects channel
[07:53] <nico_> they must know
[07:53] <francisco> quiero saber como programar un descodificador metronic
[07:54] <nico_> i dont understand that
[08:03] <inteliwasp> !beryl
[08:03] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:04] <inteliwasp> is there a guide for beryl on 6.06?
[08:04] <Yorokobi> inteliwasp, check beryl-project.org
[08:04] <K`zan> Is there some way to get what I have here in edgy in some form I could bring feisty to the same point when I install that?
[08:06] <Yorokobi> K`zan, this worked for me: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php
[08:06] <Yorokobi> more precisely: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[08:06] <K`zan> Yorokobi: Thanks, checking now
[08:06] <K`zan> Yorokobi: That too :) Thanks
[08:07] <kothz> on 7.04, do i need to get rid of ubuntu-desktop in order to install kubuntu-desktop?
[08:07] <fuzzy_logic> kothz: no
[08:09] <Ionutz> !wiev ntfs partitions
[08:10] <Ionutz> how to enter in ntfs partitions
[08:11] <Ionutz> hey please heplme
[08:11] <Ionutz> ntsf
[08:11] <Ionutz> !NTFS
[08:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:13] <Ionutz> !ntfs-3g
[08:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:14] <fr0nk> !ntfs-3g
[08:14] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:14] <snikker> someone can tell me the release date of kubuntu 7.04?
[08:14] <fr0nk> sorry, no idea
[08:14] <fr0nk> can someone please help me set up file sharing for windows machines?
[08:15] <fr0nk> everything in the dialogue is disabled and since i'm using a german ui i can't read the message above because it's trunticated
[08:15] <fr0nk> \o/
[08:19] <jhutchins> Anybody here with a fresh install?
[08:20] <jhutchins> How much space did it use?
[08:21] <jl> ola
[08:22] <AMSmith42> OK, so I tried to use Adept Installer to install Java. But since it has a license agreement in the shell, I botched it. Now I can't open Adept Installer because "another process" is using the package system. What process might I look for and try to kill?
[08:22] <Ionutz> !wine
[08:22] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:22] <Ionutz> !streaming
[08:22] <goorht> mhhh I know a command for apt-get
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <goorht> I think you might find how by hiting an installation into your shell
[08:23] <Ionutz> goorhtt please tel me
[08:23] <BluesKaj> later gents ... beer to drink and some jammin' to do
[08:23] <goorht> mhhhh
[08:23] <Ionutz> tell me comand
[08:23] <goorht> you are on Kubuntu??
[08:23] <goorht> or ubuntu??
[08:23] <Ionutz> yes
[08:23] <goorht> k
[08:23] <Ionutz> for 1st time
[08:23] <Ionutz> :)
[08:23] <goorht> ^^
[08:24] <goorht> try
[08:24] <goorht> sudo aptitude install <name of a package>
[08:24] <goorht> mhhh just wait
[08:24] <goorht> I m gonna check the command line
[08:24] <Ionutz> ok
[08:24] <Ionutz> wait....
[08:25] <goorht> yep I got it
[08:25] <goorht> try in the shell : sudo aptitude -f
[08:25] <Sanne> AMSmith42: here's something your problem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%29#head-12e8cdb525c86c6678c96be49c2014645615df9e
[08:26] <AMSmith42> Thank you.
[08:26] <Ionutz> and what it is
[08:26] <Ionutz> ?
[08:26] <Sanne> AMSmith42: you're welcome
[08:26] <goorht> now you should be on a special page
[08:27] <Ionutz> yes i see it
[08:27] <Ionutz> but mebe i use now adeptmanager and i dont use shell
[08:27] <goorht> mhhh
[08:27] <goorht> don't think so
[08:28] <goorht> using the shell is better you get more infos on problems
[08:28] <Ionutz> but i can instal is from adept manager
[08:28] <Ionutz> ?
[08:28] <goorht> yeah try it
[08:28] <Ionutz> select the pakage and press update ?
[08:29] <Ionutz> this is all?
[08:29] <goorht> normalle using -f should have fixed the problem
[08:29] <goorht> yep
[08:29] <AMSmith42> My problem isn't with installing Java. It is with adept installer (or the package system) being hung up. I've rebooted to no avail.
[08:29] <goorht> try installing a package
[08:29] <Hrontore> Okay i have a problem with atp
[08:29] <Hrontore> apt
[08:30] <goorht> what's it??
[08:30] <leme-twra> any greek here
[08:30] <Hrontore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12777/
[08:30] <goorht> what is that??
[08:30] <Ionutz> and where i can see that i instaled from admanager
[08:30] <Ionutz> ?
[08:30] <Hrontore> I added a repository and now it wont onpen
[08:30] <Ionutz> sorry i confuzed
[08:30] <Ionutz> and where i can see that i instaled from admanager
[08:31] <Ionutz> and where i can see that i instaled from admanager?
[08:31] <goorht> ???
[08:31] <goorht> what??
[08:31] <goorht> be more precise
[08:31] <leme-twra> any greek here
[08:31] <goorht> no sry
[08:31] <Ionutz> if i install the pakage from adept manager where it apear
[08:31] <Ionutz> sorry for my bad english
[08:31] <goorht> just make a research of the package
[08:32] <Hrontore> in your start menu
[08:32] <Sanne> Hrontore: looks like there's something amiss with your /etc/apt/sources.list. Can you paste it to the pastebin?
[08:32] <goorht> ionutz frend???
[08:32] <goorht> french??
[08:32] <Hrontore> i dont know how to do that
[08:32] <Hrontore> when i cant open the packedge manager
[08:33] <Ionutz> no rusian
[08:33] <Ionutz> ;)
[08:33] <goorht> k
[08:33] <goorht> nobdy is perfect ^^
[08:33] <Ionutz> i using lunux for 1 st tima
[08:33] <Sanne> Hrontore: open it with a text editor, like so: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:33] <Ionutz> time
[08:33] <goorht> you ll see its gr8
[08:33] <bruja8> hi guys,
[08:33] <goorht> hi
[08:33] <Sanne> Hrontore: and please type my name when replying so I get notified when you speak to me
[08:34] <bruja8> i am trying to uninstall bcm43xx
[08:34] <Ionutz> i think if i have instaled pakage i see it in K menu
[08:34] <herken> salut
[08:34] <herken> quelqu un parle francais?
[08:34] <Ionutz> salut
[08:34] <goorht> sudo aptitude remove --purge bcm43xx
[08:34] <goorht> oui
[08:34] <Hrontore> Sanne: got ya
[08:34] <herken> dis j ai un gros probleme
[08:34] <Ionutz> i think if i have instaled pakage i see it in K menu iti is true or no
[08:34] <goorht> ok good Ionutz you did it
[08:34] <herken> comment je fais pour rentr dedans??
[08:34] <goorht> it is well installed
[08:34] <Sanne> Hrontore: fine :). Did it open?
[08:34] <bruja8> because i can't install ndiswrapper's dirver
[08:35] <Ionutz> and now i want to see my partition in ntfs format ?
[08:35] <goorht> !help
[08:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:35] <Ionutz> how
[08:35] <Hrontore> Sanne: yes it did, should i use pastbin?
[08:35] <Ionutz> ?
[08:35] <Sanne> Hrontore: yes, please
[08:35] <goorht> mhhh that time it is too complicated
[08:36] <goorht> take a look onto the wiki
[08:36] <goorht> of ubuntu
[08:36] <Ionutz>  <goorht> how u now it?
[08:36] <Ionutz> how i can activate it?
[08:36] <bruja8> guys, can you help me with ndiswrapper please?
[08:36] <herken> jordo je fais comment pour rentr sur le canal que tu ma donner?
[08:36] <pablos_> Somebody want to school me in how to upgrade python on a kubuntu box?  I haven't used .deb since 2001
[08:37] <Ionutz> but i see the partitions, i cant intro in it
[08:37] <Hrontore> Sanne:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12780/ (there is also a a backup source.list should i restore that?)
[08:37] <Ionutz> someone please help me
[08:37] <bruja8> pablos_ go to adept manager
[08:37] <goorht> ok
[08:37] <goorht> last time and I go
[08:37] <goorht> ionutz
[08:37] <pablos_> bruja8: can I use that from a shell?
[08:37] <Ionutz> ok
[08:38] <goorht> sudo fdisk -l
[08:38] <herken> someone can me say how save the nvidia.run driver because kate run and it's say to me it's a corrupt file can't save it! :((
[08:38] <goorht> you type that
[08:38] <bruja8> do apt-get --help to see your options pablo_
[08:38] <Yorokobi> pablos_, if you're using a shell, dselect is a good tool (with a learning curve :) )
[08:38] <diego> ola
[08:38] <makuseru> how can i change the boot order in my grub
[08:38] <goorht> you should find a ntfs partition
[08:38] <pablos_> OK, will dselect let me choose a version?
[08:38] <Yorokobi> pablos_, yes
[08:38] <Ionutz> i type it
[08:39] <diego> aguem poderia me passa  o amsn
[08:39] <herken> please help me :(
[08:39] <goorht> give me the answer
[08:39] <goorht> herken google it
[08:39] <Ionutz> i see the partitions and hdd
[08:39] <goorht> it is not difficult to find on the internet
[08:39] <goorht> ok
[08:39] <goorht> you should find a ntsf partition
[08:39] <r00t_> i intstalled the server version of ubuntu then decided i wanted a kde desktop,so i used aptitude to install kubuntu but im missing all the system utilites and lots of stuff on my menu,what should i do?theres nho adapt no control panel no sytem utils etc
[08:39] <herken> i have search for this!
[08:39] <Ionutz> ok e see it
[08:40] <goorht> ok then
[08:40] <Sanne> Hrontore: no, let's look at what's wrong with your current one first. Look at line 1, that's a wrong format entry.
[08:40] <Ionutz> i have 2 ntfs
[08:40] <goorht> you make
[08:40] <Ionutz> 100 gb and 12 gb
[08:40] <david> I've installed gspca driver for my sony vaio webcam (motioneye) and the driver works but the camera controls don't. Any ideas?
[08:40] <Hrontore> Sanne: delete and save?
[08:40] <goorht> sudo kate /etc/fstab
[08:40] <Yorokobi> r00t_, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:40] <Ionutz> type it?
[08:40] <Hrontore> Sanne: I mean the first line remove it?
[08:40] <goorht> yeah
[08:41] <Ionutz> ok
[08:41] <r00t_> Yorokobi: i think im missin a large number of packages and im just wondering what i did wrong
[08:41] <goorht> then open a new shell
[08:41] <AMSmith42> dpkg --configure -a basically reset the package system and I was able to get into adept installer. Thanks Sanne.
[08:41] <Sanne> Hrontore: You can, but then you would need to retrace your steps with wine. We can do it together.
[08:41] <diego> help
[08:41] <Hrontore> Sanne: okay what next
[08:41] <goorht> and type sudo mkdir /the path you want
[08:41] <david> Anyone using gspca driver for webcam?
[08:41] <Ionutz> aa have open fstab-kate
[08:42] <Yorokobi> r00t_, you can use synaptic (or dselect, which is already installed) to search for KDE packages. Most start with kde and kde-
[08:42] <Sanne> AMSmith42: cool, glad it worked. Though, there#s a problem when installing Java with Adept, as I read, so you might want to use the command line for that, if needed.
[08:42] <goorht> Nickserv
[08:42] <Ionutz> r: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16
[08:42] <goorht> ???
[08:42] <goorht> does it opened
[08:42] <goorht> ????
[08:42] <goorht> a file
[08:42] <bruja8> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:42] <Sanne> Hrontore: I guess you want to add a line for wine to your sources.list?
[08:43] <Ionutz> no
[08:43] <Ionutz> no
[08:43] <bruja8> sory, thought i was typing in a aterminal
[08:43] <Hrontore> Sanne: yes WINE on my system is outdated
[08:43] <Ionutz> another way u now?
[08:43] <goorht> mhhh
[08:43] <AMSmith42> Sanne: Yes, I saw that and had trouble too. I've done it with the command line before with both Sun's method and apt-get. Both are kind of a pain.
[08:43] <goorht> ok
[08:43] <fuzzy_logic> hi all
[08:43] <fuzzy_logic> 1 question
[08:43] <fuzzy_logic> i installed kubuntu-package.. but when i try to sign in with kde i get the following message "Could not start kstartupconfig. Please check your installation."
[08:43] <goorht> try sudo kwrite /etc/fstab
[08:43] <AMSmith42> Sanne: I've done it with Adept too, for that matter.
[08:44] <makuseru> how can i change the boot order in my grub?
[08:44] <Sanne> Hrontore: ok, I prefer to not let scripts do that, so we will do it manually. First let's look what's in that file that was referenced on the first line you deleted. In a browser, type this: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/edgy.list
[08:44] <Sanne> AMSmith42: hmm, I remember installing java from the cli with no problems.
[08:44] <bruja8> can someone help me get my wirelss working please?
[08:45] <Ionutz> Permission denied
[08:45] <Ionutz> ?
[08:45] <Ionutz> but i am a admin
[08:45] <goorht> ???
[08:45] <Hrontore> Sanne: I haven't deleted anything yet
[08:45] <goorht> should should have to type your password
[08:45] <Ionutz> no
[08:45] <Ionutz> fuck
[08:45] <Ionutz> sorry
[08:45] <Sanne> Hrontore: ok, then we do it later. Please go to the location I said with a browser and look what's in there.
[08:46] <LegolasV> So I'm using the nv driver in my X.org, and not the nvidia one (I've got an older Nvidia GeForce, so that'd be nvidia-glx-legacy) but things like SuperTux and TuxRacer get extreme slow. But when I switch to the nvidia one I only can go up to 800x600 and now I have 1280x1024. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong, or is it just beter to stick with what I have?
[08:46] <goorht> ....
[08:46] <goorht> you didn't type your password
[08:46] <goorht> ????
[08:46] <Hrontore> Sanne: Done
[08:46] <Hrontore> ## WineHQ - Ubuntu 6.10 "edgy eft"
[08:46] <Hrontore> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[08:46] <Hrontore> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[08:46] <AMSmith42> Sanne: If you use Adept, you have to click "Show Details" to see the license agreement. My screen wasn't big enough, so I couldn't see all of it to get to the [OK]  in the command line. It is all good now.
[08:46] <Ionutz> a dont see pas place
[08:46] <Ionutz> ok where i can found documentation about it
[08:47] <goorht> just google it you ll find
[08:47] <Sanne> Hrontore: you might recognize this are two lines in the same format as the other lines in sources.list? That's for the wine repository. So just copy that and add it to your sources.list, then delete the first line, save, and, if you want, paste the new sources.list to the pastebin.
[08:47] <goorht> i think within a minute you ll have infos on it
[08:48] <goorht> bye have to go
[08:48] <Ionutz> ok thx much
[08:48] <eagles0513875> i need help setting up a dhcp server
[08:48] <Tux> ubuntu-effects is a sleep channel?
[08:48] <Sanne> AMSmith42: that's good to know. I don't use Adept, but it's good to know how to help others. Thanks.
[08:48] <Hrontore> Sanne: I dont seem to have rights to save the document
[08:50] <Sanne> Hrontore: then you didn't open it with kdesu? Close kate, then type in a konsole or the run dialog: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <enry> hi
[08:50] <eagles0513875> is it rather easy  to set up a dhcp server
[08:50] <The_Machine> I screwed up.  I was trying to get an NTFS External USB drive to work with kubuntu - didn't really work, so i finally undid all of the instructions i was following and was able to reformat as ext3 drive.  Now it doesn't seem to be mounting when I plug it into the USB port.  Can someone help me make it so that it automounts when plugged in again?  (to /media/ and shows up as an icon on my desktop, etc?)
[08:52] <Ionutz> ii mounted hdd drive but i cant intro in it
[08:53] <Hrontore> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12784/ (changes done and apt opened without error)
[08:53] <Ionutz> "u dont have enought permision"
[08:53] <Sanne> Hrontore: please wait with apr, we're not done
[08:53] <Ionutz> what is the problem
[08:53] <Ionutz> ?
[08:53] <Hrontore> Sanne: Okay
[08:53] <Ionutz> someone now it?
[08:53] <Yorokobi> !ru | Ionutz
[08:53] <ubotu> Ionutz:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:54] <Sanne> Hrontore: two more things: 1: Line 3 is a dapper source (dapper-commercial), although the rest is edgy. You might want to change this to read edgy-commercial
[08:56] <Sanne> Hrontore: tell me when done
[08:56] <Hrontore> Sanne: (Done) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12785/
[08:57] <fuzzy_logic> hi.. i just installed the kubuntu-package.. but when i try to login i get this message: "Could not load kstartupconfig. Please check your installation."
[08:57] <fuzzy_logic> anyone help plz?
[08:58] <Sanne> Hrontore: 2: I see you have already enabled universe and multiverse in line 5, that's fine. To get security updates for universe, you might want to remove the '#' sign from lines 35 and 36
[08:59] <fuzzy_logic> can anyone help me plz?
[08:59] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, it sounds like you're probably missing some packages. sudo apt-get install kde-core kdebase
[09:00] <eagles0513875> anyon know how to setup a dhcp server
[09:00] <Hrontore> Sanne: (changes made) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12786/
[09:00] <Yorokobi> eagles0513875, you may have to read the dhcpd docs
[09:00] <tdn> Can I use hibernate if I use LUKS to encrypt my swap partition with a random key?
[09:01] <eagles0513875> do u have a link
[09:01] <william> Hi all, does anyone know which program I have to us to remotecontrol my Kubuntu system using RDP via win XP
[09:01] <Sanne> Hrontore: looks good so far. Now we need to update the package list. Open a konsole and type: sudo apt-get update
[09:02] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi: thanx it is installing
[09:03] <Hrontore> Sanne: working
[09:03] <Hrontore> Sanne: done
[09:04] <Sanne> Hrontore: cool. Now you should be able to continue normally with your installations.
[09:04] <fuzzy_logic> ehm.. that didn't work
[09:04] <Hrontore> Sanne: danka
[09:04] <Sanne> Hrontore: :) bitte schn (you're welcome)
[09:05] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi: what you suggested didn't work. can you help me?
[09:05] <Yorokobi> okay fuzzy_logic : sudo apt-get install kdedesktop
[09:06] <Yorokobi> ... or, format and re-install with a Kubuntu ISO :)
[09:06] <Sanne> Yorokobi, fuzzy_logic: isn't it kubuntu-desktop?
[09:07] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi i'm not going to do that.. i am against reinstalling systems
[09:07] <Yorokobi> could be, I meant kdesktop
[09:07] <Dasnipa`> Yorokobi, dont you mean kubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <fuzzy_logic> yes, Sanne, it is kubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <Sanne> :)
[09:07] <fuzzy_logic> i've already installed that
[09:07] <Dasnipa`> fuzzy_logic, so now all you have to do is log out and select boot with kde
[09:08] <Dasnipa`> and poof
[09:08] <darx> greetins folks
[09:08] <fuzzy_logic> anyone have other solution to my problem? I installed kubuntu-desktop, but when i want to startup in kde i get the following message: "Could not start kstartupconfig. Please check your installation."
[09:08] <darx> how can i run a startup script in KDE?
[09:08] <fuzzy_logic> Dasnipa: i installed it, read my msg
[09:09] <Sanne> fuzzy_logic: I remember reading something about this problem. I will investigate, sec
[09:09] <darx> better yet, how can i run one just before login
[09:09] <fuzzy_logic> tnx
[09:09] <darx> its like i cant ifup my interface without --force for some reason
[09:09] <LegolasV> fuzzy_logic: could it have to do something with permissions in your home dir? I've had a situation like that on a debian installation
[09:10] <darx> ifup says its already configured but without a working connection
[09:10] <fuzzy_logic> LegolasV: that was suggested previously, but unfourunatly that was not the case. the permissions weren't good, but after setting them the right way it still didn't work
[09:11] <fuzzy_logic> shall i maybe try to reinstall kubuntu-desktop package?
[09:12] <crparr> Hi! What is the correct way to configure my laptop, so that it uses the external monitor (when present), otherwise the lcd flat panel?
[09:12] <fuzzy_logic> darx: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=13100&sid=8a111a781cedcb91aebecbc854cb7048
[09:12] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, do you have /usr/bin/kstartupconfig ?
[09:13] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi: yes i do
[09:14] <darx> fuzzy_logic: thanks man
[09:14] <Sanne> fuzzy_logic: can't find it again, but found this, maybe you get some ideas from that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1725114  Other than that, I don't know, sorry.
[09:14] <Yorokobi> Then it probably is not a package problem ...
[09:14] <fuzzy_logic> Sanne: ok.. thanks anyway for the trouble
[09:14] <fuzzy_logic> darx: np
[09:14] <Sanne> fuzzy_logic: you're welocme :)
[09:14] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi: any suggestions what it is then?
[09:16] <Hrontore> Sanne: I've tried to use glxgears to see frame rates but they dont appear, the gears do the rates dont
[09:16] <fuzzy_logic> maybe it is because of the permissions of kstartupconfig? the group is root and it has only read-only rights
[09:17] <Arwen> Hrontore, glxgears -printfps
[09:17] <Sanne> Hrontore: listen to Arwen :)
[09:17] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4600 2007-02-05 22:58 /usr/bin/kstartupconfig*
[09:17] <AaronCampbell> How can I either: a) boot to a comamnd prompt *or* b) pass extra parameters to startx when booting (startx -- -logverbose 6)?
[09:17] <Arwen> anyone here tried using cinelerra?
[09:17] <Hrontore> :D
[09:18] <Arwen> Hrontore, btw, glxgears is NOT a benchmark
[09:18] <darx> now that i know how to run scripts at each session, here comes my first shell script.... i'm soo excited.. wish me luck
[09:18] <darx> :)
[09:18] <fuzzy_logic> sudo: please use single character options
[09:18] <fuzzy_logic> sudo: illegal option `-rwxr-xr-x'
[09:18] <fuzzy_logic> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[09:18] <fuzzy_logic> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[09:18] <fuzzy_logic>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[09:18] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi that's what i get after running your command
[09:18] <Yorokobi> :) that wasn't a command
[09:18] <Arwen> fuzzy_logic, what were you trying to do?
[09:18] <fuzzy_logic> oh lool
[09:18] <fuzzy_logic> what was it then?
[09:18] <Yorokobi> sudo chmod 0766 /usr/bin/kstartupconfig
[09:18] <darx> fuzzy_logic: you could get banned for pasting that much
[09:18] <Yorokobi> try that
[09:19] <fuzzy_logic> darx really? why
[09:19] <Arwen> darx, now now, lets not point the banstick at anyone
[09:19] <darx> Arwen: i'm sorry IRC noob
[09:19] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi i'm gonna try to log into kde now.. let ya know if it works
[09:19] <darx> fuzzy_logic: accept my sincere apologies
[09:20] <Yorokobi> crap, I can't do math, hold on fuzzy_logic
[09:20] <Arwen> fuzzy_logic, that said, use pastebin.ca instead of dumping stuff to the channel
[09:20] <Arwen> fuzzy_logic, chmod 0755 /usr/bin/kstartupconfig
[09:20] <Yorokobi> it should be sudo chmod 0755 /usr/bin/kstartupconfig
[09:20] <fuzzy_logic> what is pastebin.cs?
[09:20] <Tm_T> darx: you're not the one to use ban threath, ok? ;(
[09:20] <Arwen> fuzzy_logic, pastebin.ca is a website for dumping large amounts of text :-)
[09:21] <fuzzy_logic> lol haha that's a nice one arwen
[09:21] <fuzzy_logic> im gonna try.. brb
[09:21] <darx> Tm_T: I'm sorry.. I didn't know IRC was well moderated
[09:22] <darx> Tm_T: And it wasn't a threat
[09:22] <Tm_T> darx: ;)
[09:22] <materva> I am having difficulties setting up bluetooth with my ubuntu ultimate 1.3  does anyone know how to set up the bluetooth?   I am just trying to pair some gadgets together.  thanks
[09:23] <fuzzy_logic> man this crap still doesn't work
[09:23] <Arwen> haha
[09:23] <Tm_T> !ohmy
[09:23] <fuzzy_logic> i get the same message
[09:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:23] <darx> Tm_T: there was a time when i care little about pissing people off.. but i had my fair share of abrasions with the authority and i knwo better
[09:23] <Hrontore> Ran glxgears -printfps and the comp hardlocked
[09:23] <Tm_T> darx: heh, know the feeling
[09:23] <fuzzy_logic> aight ubotu.. sorry :)
[09:24] <fuzzy_logic> anyone have ideas? shall i reinstall the kubuntu-desktop package? would that work?
[09:25] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, at this point it probably won't hurt :)
[09:25] <darx> fuzzy_logic: i don't know if you know this but ubotu is a bot..
[09:25] <Hrontore> Im trying to get a radeon 9600 working
[09:25] <fuzzy_logic> darx i do :)
[09:25] <darx> cool
[09:25] <Hrontore> Arwen: glxgears -printfos caused a hard lock, what should i do
[09:25] <Yorokobi> gotta show respect to the bot
[09:25] <Arwen> um.... fix your drivers
[09:26] <darx> ahh.. its awkward in here..brb
[09:26] <fuzzy_logic> :) @ darx
[09:26] <Hrontore> Arwen: how for a radeon 9600
[09:26] <Arwen> dunno how, what does glxinfo | grep direct say?
[09:26] <Hrontore> Im using cuase thats what i got
[09:26] <fuzzy_logic> reinstalled.. brb
[09:27] <fuzzy_logic> doesn't work
[09:28] <fuzzy_logic> but i just reinstalled the kubuntu-desktop package.. not the packages that came with it
[09:28] <Hrontore> Arwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12791/
[09:28] <fuzzy_logic> how can i do that in 1 click?
[09:28] <tux> close call there
[09:28] <Arwen> Hrontore, you typed it wrong, it's glxinfo | grep direct
[09:29] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, 1 click == Amazon.com to me
[09:29] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi: uhh.. don't get that one?
[09:29] <Yorokobi> CLI: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop
[09:30] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, neither do I
[09:30] <Hrontore> Arwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12793/ Uhh, no?
[09:30] <fuzzy_logic> lol
[09:30] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi, was that for me?
[09:30] <Yorokobi> the CLI one, yes
[09:30] <Arwen> Hrontore, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:30] <fuzzy_logic> i did it.. didn't get any feedback from the terminal dough.. is that normal?
[09:31] <fuzzy_logic> Yorokobi?
[09:32] <u0733317> psaposd
[09:32] <u0733317> saposssssssssssssssssss
[09:32] <fuzzy_logic> lol
[09:32] <fuzzy_logic> someone's testing :P
[09:32] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, yes?
[09:32] <Yorokobi> I was reading http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/That_0x27_s_Not_Totally_What_I_Meant.aspx and got distracted
[09:33] <Tm_T> u0733317: english please
[09:33] <Hrontore> Arwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12796/
[09:33] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, okay, I just read through the history. Pardon me, its been a long day already ... and, honestly, I don't know.
[09:33] <fuzzy_logic> doesn't matter, Yorokobi, know that feeling
[09:33] <fuzzy_logic> brb
[09:34] <Hrontore> Arwen: so, want to run line 15?
[09:34] <Arwen> Hrontore, where it says 'Driver "ati"', replace ati with radeon
[09:34] <stevethepirate> Can someone please pm me.. I need some help but can't keep up with a conversation on my phone...
[09:35] <fuzzy_logic> #@$@#!@
[09:35] <Arwen> lol
[09:35] <tux2> kde rules
[09:36] <Yorokobi> fuzzy_logic, have you looked at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE ??
[09:36] <stevethepirate> How do i add ftp.leg.uct.ac.za as a apt-get mirror?
[09:36] <Sanne> fuzzy_logic: I believe in the forum thread I linked to somebody had a solution in the last post.
[09:36] <Arwen> stevethepirate, err, try deb ftp.leg.uct.ac.za edgy main - we really can't say without more details
[09:37] <Tm_T> !repositories | stevethepirate
[09:37] <ubotu> stevethepirate: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:37] <fuzzy_logic> can you re-link please? i closed the window in between
[09:37] <Tm_T> hmm, might be wrong ;)
[09:37] <stevethepirate> Dude. I can't go to websites.. My internet is dead..
[09:37] <Hrontore> Arwen: for some reason kdesu /etc/X11/xorg.conf  wont opent he doc
[09:37] <Arwen> Hrontore, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:37] <stevethepirate> 'm running edgy though
[09:38] <Arwen> stevethepirate, if you have no Internet connection, why do you care about repositories? lol
[09:38] <Hrontore> oops
[09:38] <stevethepirate> Can someone please help?
[09:38] <stevethepirate> Since that mirror is local for me.. Its on my lan
[09:39] <Arwen> stevethepirate, ask your network admin
[09:39] <Hrontore> Arwen: made the changes
[09:39] <Arwen> Hrontore, restart X - ctrl + alt + backspace
[09:39] <Arwen> if it fails, you'll end up on the console
[09:39] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, you could change the archive.ubuntu.com entries to your mirror
[09:39] <aaroncampbell_> Is there a good visual diff program for kubuntu?  Something line winmerge for linux?
[09:39] <stevethepirate> Fuck. Dude. Please help.. He's not here. Its close on 10 at night and i need linux to work so i can do my work.
[09:40] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <fuzzy_logic> Sanne: can you re-link please?
[09:40] <Sanne> fuzzy_logic: sec
[09:40] <fuzzy_logic> ok
[09:40] <stevethepirate> Ya. In there now with nano
[09:40] <fuzzy_logic> sanne.. u like.. female?
[09:40] <Arwen> stevethepirate, edit /etc/apt/sources.list - like I said, we can't help you because apt lines for different repositories are well... different
[09:40] <Sanne> fuzzy_logic:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1725114
[09:41] <stevethepirate> Could you not look at the server and tell my what to put please'
[09:41] <Arwen> is it public?
[09:41] <Sanne> stevethepirate: I might be able to contruct the deb line for you, sec
[09:41] <stevethepirate> Yes. Its public.
[09:41] <Arwen> stevethepirate, ah, it's not an Ubuntu repository...
[09:41] <Sanne> Arwen: here is the ubuntu directory with "dists": ftp://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/pub/linux/ubuntu/
[09:42] <Arwen> or not
[09:42] <stevethepirate> What lines must i add?
[09:42] <Arwen> stevethepirate, deb ftp://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/pub/linux/ubuntu edgy main multiverse restricted universe
[09:42] <Sanne> stevethepirate: please wait, I'm working on it
[09:43] <Hrontore> Arwen: now what?
[09:43] <Sanne> stevethepirate: or listen to arwen ;)
[09:43] <Arwen> Hrontore, check if it works - glxinfo | grep direct
[09:43] <Arwen> stevethepirate, also, repeat that line with edgy-backports, edgy-proposed, edgy-security, and edgy-updates instead of edgy
[09:43] <Hrontore> Arwen
[09:43] <Hrontore> Arwen: now
[09:43] <Hrontore> Arwen: no
[09:44] <Arwen> Hrontore, ..........................
[09:44] <fuzzy_logic> Sanne i did what the poster suggested.. brb
[09:44] <stevethepirate> How do i check if its working?
[09:44] <Sanne> fuzzy_logic: ok
[09:44] <Hrontore> rod@rod-desktop:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[09:44] <Hrontore> direct rendering: No
[09:44] <Hrontore> rod@rod-desktop:~$
[09:44] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, apt-get update
[09:44] <Arwen> Hrontore, are you on a livecd by any chance?
[09:44] <Yorokobi> er, sudo apt-get update (one way among many)
[09:45] <Hrontore> Arwen: no, this is an install
[09:45] <stevethepirate> Nice. Thanks people.. One problem sorted out.
[09:45] <hazard> That's awful damned annoying, when I ghost my name, and you try again to take it.
[09:46] <Arwen> Hrontore, hmm........ guess your only option left is !binarydrivers
[09:46] <stevethepirate> Okay.. Now. How do i install ntfs reading?
[09:46] <Hrontore> Arwen: dun dun dunn
[09:46] <stevethepirate> To read off my other partition.. A windows one.
[09:46] <Arwen> stevethepirate, uh, you need to add the ntfs-fuse repository which will require net access
[09:46] <fuzzy_logic> it is a big day in the history of (k)ubuntu.. fuzzy_logic is RUNNING KDE!
[09:47] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, $ man mount :)
[09:47] <stevethepirate> Can't i apt-get it?
[09:47] <Sanne> Arwen: for reading? that's possible out of the box, isn't it?
[09:47] <Arwen> Sanne, he wants write, no?
[09:47] <Sanne> fuzzy_logic: haha, did it work? cool.
[09:47] <stevethepirate> Well. Writing too.
[09:47] <fuzzy_logic> thank you sanne.. i have to go now..
[09:47] <fuzzy_logic> bye and thanks again!
[09:48] <stevethepirate> This ftp has a lot of stuff on.
[09:48] <Sanne> Arwen: heh, he said read, but ... you anticipated that's not enough :)
[09:48] <Sanne> fuzzy_logic: you're welcome, take care
[09:48] <fuzzy_logic> u2
[09:48] <Arwen> stevethepirate, well, look for ntfs-3g
[09:48] <Sanne> :)
[09:48] <stevethepirate> Hello' sorry i need to read and write to ntfs
[09:49] <stevethepirate> Okay got ntfs-3g. Now what?
[09:49] <stevethepirate> Fstab or something?
[09:49] <Arwen> stevethepirate, yeah, one sec
[09:49] <stevethepirate> K
[09:51] <Arwen> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 - stevethepirate
[09:51] <Arwen> skip down to "3. manual configuration"
[09:51] <stevethepirate> Sorry.. I can't open that..
[09:51] <Arwen> ???
[09:51] <stevethepirate> No internet.
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> how are you HERE.
[09:51] <Arwen> stevethepirate, how're you talking here?
[09:51] <spitwise> heh
[09:52] <stevethepirate> I'm off cellphone here.
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[09:52] <spitwise> burn
[09:52] <stevethepirate> And my cellphone browser is not setup
[09:52] <stevethepirate> Could you just line by line it to me in pm
[09:52] <stevethepirate> ?
[09:52] <matutano> hi guys, I'm having problems while trying to connect into wireless network using knetworkmanager, it stalls on 28% , I've seen this problem over the net but I can't find nothing usefull
[09:53] <Arwen> stevethepirate, add a line to your fstab (/etc/fstab) that reads "/dev/<partition with ntfs> /mnt/<newfoldername> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0"
[09:53] <Arwen> this is assuming you're in the USA
[09:53] <stevethepirate> How do i know the dev number'
[09:53] <Arwen> stevethepirate, ..................
[09:53] <Arwen> stevethepirate, fdisk -l
[09:54] <Arwen> look for the entry that says ntfs
[09:54] <stevethepirate> Got it.
[09:54] <Hrontore> Arwen: where do i get a binary driver?
[09:54] <Arwen> !ati | Hrontore
[09:54] <ubotu> Hrontore: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:56] <stevethepirate> Okay. Added that line. What now?
[09:56] <stevethepirate> Do i need to make a mount folder?
[09:57] <Yorokobi> matutano, that seems to be a quirk with knetworkmanager in 6.10 when connecting to WPA-enabled wifi networks. I end up restarting it until it works
[09:57] <Arwen> stevethepirate, yeah, where I said /mnt/emptyfoldername, you need to make the folder
[09:57] <Arwen> e.g. "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows"
[09:57] <stevethepirate> Thats exactly what i called it ... :-)
[09:57] <stevethepirate> Okay. Done.
[09:57] <stevethepirate> Now?
[09:58] <matutano> Yorokobi, really? reebooting the computer?
[09:58] <stevethepirate> Hello?
[09:58] <Arwen> stevethepirate, umount /dev/<windowsdevice>> && mount -a
[09:58] <Arwen> as root
[09:58] <Yorokobi> matutano, no. Restart knetworkmanager or retry the connection
[09:59] <matutano> oh ok
[09:59] <matutano> lol
[09:59] <matutano> but I must do that every time? Yorokobi or once it works its fine everytime?
[09:59] <stevethepirate> Says '/dev/sda1 not mounted'
[09:59] <Arwen> stevethepirate, oh, be careful if it's your Windows partition that you're trying to write, if you aren't careful, you might seriousl fsck up
[09:59] <Arwen> stevethepirate, ok, then just do mount -a
[10:00] <stevethepirate> Will this fuck my windows partition up?
[10:00] <Yorokobi> matutano, I ended up doing it a lot when I was using WPA2-TKIP but less so with WPA ... I'm not sure if its a WPA problem, or a kwallet problem, or a dhcp problem ...
[10:00] <Arwen> stevethepirate, only if you're not careful
[10:01] <Arwen> also, this is #kubuntu, we don't say "fuck", we say "fsck"
[10:01] <Yorokobi> !ohmy | stevethepirate
[10:01] <ubotu> stevethepirate: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:01] <Yorokobi> :)
[10:01] <Yorokobi> I like that one
[10:01] <stevethepirate> Okay.. Now how do  make my music work?
[10:01] <Daisuke_Ido> stevethepirate: as far as...
[10:02] <stevethepirate> Sorry about the swearing..
[10:02] <stevethepirate> Just loaded my music into amarok.
[10:02] <Arwen> !mp3 | stevethepirate
[10:02] <ubotu> stevethepirate: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:02] <stevethepirate> But when i play something no sound comes out.
[10:02] <stevethepirate> Dude. About the internet.....
[10:03] <Arwen> ...
[10:03] <Arwen> stevethepirate, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:03] <Arwen> also, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[10:03] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, and maybe amarok-xine ...
[10:05] <Daisuke_Ido> aww, mplayer rather than amarok?
[10:06] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, you can't play DVDs with amarok......
[10:07] <stevethepirate> Okay.. Got the codecs. Still no sound coming out of the computer.
[10:08] <Arwen> stevethepirate, sound card?
[10:08] <stevethepirate> Onboard.
[10:08] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, is the volume turned up ? (not to sound condescending but it happens)
[10:08] <Arwen> stevethepirate, ^^
[10:08] <stevethepirate> Jokes. Got it working.. Was faulty cable.
[10:08] <Arwen> ha, you failed it
[10:08] <Arwen> Yorokobi, high five :-)
[10:09] <stevethepirate> Ya. The volume was down.. So i alsamixered it
[10:09] <Yorokobi> back at ya Arwen
[10:09] <Arwen> stevethepirate, oh yeah, if you wanna play dvds, you probably also want libdvdcss2, dunno if your local ftp has it though
[10:09] <RoyB72> anyone got an idea where I get xwinwrap from?
[10:09] <Arwen> why is it that you have no net access?
[10:09] <stevethepirate> How do i kill a process?
[10:10] <Arwen> stevethepirate, pkill, killall, killl
[10:10] <Arwen> any of those
[10:10] <stevethepirate> Well. I need to kill amarok
[10:10] <Arwen> why?
[10:10] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, pkill amarokapp
[10:11] <Arwen> stevethepirate, please don't say because you don't know how to turn it off?
[10:11] <stevethepirate> Sweet. By mistake added my whole harddrive
[10:11] <Yorokobi> That could take a while to look through :)
[10:12] <Arwen> oh yeah, feisty now has ntfs-3g in main repositories, right?
[10:13] <stevethepirate> Okay.. Can i get office2007 running in linux through wine or something?
[10:13] <Arwen> stevethepirate, NO
[10:13] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you WANT to?
[10:13] <Arwen> Office runs in wine up to 2002, get oo.o
[10:13] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, why aren't you just using Windows?
[10:14] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, probably because MS Office is simply better
[10:14] <stevethepirate> Okay. How do i get openoffice?
[10:14] <Arwen> stevethepirate, what Yorokobi said
[10:14] <Arwen> stevethepirate, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org ?
[10:14] <Arwen> or just apps -> office -> oo.o app
[10:14] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: office is better, i'll give you that.  but why 2007?
[10:14] <stevethepirate> Lol.. It is here indeed
[10:14] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, dunno :-\
[10:15] <stevethepirate> I have most of my documents in .docx form...
[10:15] <stevethepirate> Should i get xine, vlc or mplayer?
[10:15] <AmyRose> Now I 	finallty	 understand why Konversation is better than XChat
[10:15] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Office is better then what?
[10:16] <rstanca> AmyRose: why?
[10:17] <stevethepirate> What to use to watch dvd's
[10:17] <AmyRose> rstanca: XChat doesn't do message formatting
[10:17] <rdk> Hello. I'd like to upgrade my Kubuntu Dapper to Edgy. What should I do?
[10:17] <AmyRose> XChat also makes it harder to issue multiple ChanServ commands at once too
[10:17] <stevethepirate> Hello?
[10:17] <Daisuke_Ido> pollyo: overall, office is still better than OO.o
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> but not office 2007.
[10:18] <AmyRose> stevethepirate: www.getautomatix.com
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> NO!
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !automatix
[10:18] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:18] <AmyRose> !WorksForMe
[10:18] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:18] <AmyRose> Oh,  learned that the hard way
[10:18] <stevethepirate> People. What program should i use to watch dvd's ?
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> kaffeine, i suppose
[10:19] <AmyRose> stevethepirate: Kaffeine and the codecs you can install in Automatix
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> eek!
[10:19] <Hrontore> Arwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12798/
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> !codecs
[10:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:19] <stevethepirate> What about vlc?
[10:19] <rdk> There is apt-get dist upgrade command. What does it work?
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> vlc is very nice
[10:19] <rstanca> AmyRose: konversation has issues with ChanServ too, e.g first joins a channel and the registers me
[10:19] <Arwen> Hrontore, sudo
[10:20] <AmyRose> rstanca: I haven't had such problems o.o
[10:20] <Arwen> anyone, I mounted an ntfs partition as gid=fuse, and I'm in the fuse group, but I can't access it...
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> should probably check for updates...
[10:20] <stevethepirate> Whats its name? Vlc or vlcplayer or what?
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:21] <Hrontore> AAAHHH dont leave me arwen
[10:21] <raffytaffy> if i compile new kernel do i have to reinstall TOR and Privoxy?
[10:21] <Hrontore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12799/
[10:21] <stevethepirate> Is there a decent linux dc client?
[10:21] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, jackpot!
[10:22] <Daisuke_Ido> stevethepirate: there is
[10:22] <stevethepirate> Called?
[10:22] <Daisuke_Ido> dc++
[10:23] <stevethepirate> Lol.
[10:23] <Daisuke_Ido> linuxdcpp.berlios.de
[10:23] <stevethepirate> Okay. That was not highergrade..
[10:23] <aaroncampbell_> can I change "runlevel" (that might be a redhat term)?  Basically, I want to shutdown (maybe even restart) to a command prompt (no X), but have it still boot like normal next time
[10:23] <Daisuke_Ido> it's actually nicer than the windows client
[10:24] <Yorokobi> AaronCampbell, man runlevel
[10:24] <stevethepirate> How do i get it?
[10:24] <Daisuke_Ido> let me look, i don't know if it's in the repos
[10:25] <neil__> anyone good at compiling apps here?
[10:25] <stevethepirate> Dai.. How do i get it?
[10:25] <neil__> got a prob i just cant fix
[10:25] <stevethepirate> Gcc
[10:25] <neil__> Downloaded mp3splt-gtk..
[10:25] <neil__> Ive installed build-essential, and several dev libraries it required
[10:25] <neil__> But it doesnt seem to be able to find libogg, even tho ive installed it
[10:25] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell_, or man telinit
[10:25] <neil__> ./configure output:
[10:25] <neil__> ./configure: line 21448: syntax error near unexpected token `,{'
[10:25] <neil__> ./configure: line 21448: `XIPH_PATH_OGG(,{ { echo "$as_me:$LINENO: error: Ogg needed! Download the latest version of libogg at http://www.xiph.org" >&5'
[10:25] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[10:26] <Daisuke_Ido> stevethepirate: check out the source via cvs and compile
[10:26] <Daisuke_Ido> not a great solution, i know
[10:27] <stevethepirate> I have no clue what you just said
[10:27] <Yorokobi> neil__, where is it looking for libogg ?
[10:27] <neil__> Yorokobi: I dont know, but that sounds like the problem, as I didnt add libogg from synaptic unlike the rest..
[10:27] <neil__> How do I check, or tell it where to look?
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> make sure you install the -dev package
[10:27] <Yorokobi> locate libogg
[10:27] <neil__> neil@cascade:~/mp3splt-project/libmp3splt$ whereis libogg
[10:27] <neil__> libogg: /usr/lib/libogg.a /usr/lib/libogg.la /usr/lib/libogg.so /usr/local/lib/libogg.so /usr/local/lib/libogg.la /usr/local/lib/libogg.a
[10:27] <neil__> shall I do locate too?
[10:27] <Yorokobi> Daisuke_Ido, may have hit it
[10:27] <stevethepirate> Dai.. What do i do?
[10:28] <Daisuke_Ido> stevethepirate: http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/document.php?id=1
[10:28] <Daisuke_Ido> wait
[10:28] <Daisuke_Ido> no web, i forgot
[10:28] <stevethepirate> I can't open web pages... No internet
[10:28] <Yorokobi> neil__, do you have the libogg??-dev package installed ? But, back to my original question, where is the app that you're compiling looking for the lib?
[10:29] <neil__> I don't know where its looking, or how to find out
[10:29] <neil__> and from what I can see, a -dev package doesnt exist
[10:29] <mervteck> ok is anyone here good with cedega, the cedega IRC channel is worthless
[10:29] <neil__> i think libogg /is/ the dev package
[10:29] <Yorokobi> neil__, check the configure script (or its output)
[10:30] <Yorokobi> neil__, if you get it working, let me know if it is worth owning
[10:30] <Daisuke_Ido> neil__: sudo apt-get install libogg-dev
[10:30] <Yorokobi> neil__, strike my last comment,
[10:31] <neil__> libogg-dev is already the newest version.
[10:31] <neil__> apparently...
[10:31] <neil__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12752/ It says this before compiling, but I don't know what it means...
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> then you have the dev package
[10:32] <neil__> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, guess I do.. its like it's looking in the wrong place
[10:33] <Yorokobi> neil__, try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/libogg.so ./configure
[10:33] <stevethepirate> Whats the name of that program that opens a console when you press F12 ?
[10:34] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, yakuake
[10:34] <neil__> Yorokobi: same error :(
[10:34] <Daisuke_Ido> finally!  K3B 1.0!
[10:34] <Yorokobi> yeah, not surprised
[10:34] <neil__> this is the line from configure that checks for ogg:
[10:34] <neil__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12804/
[10:35] <neil__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12805/ oops missed a bit
[10:35] <Yorokobi> okay neil__ try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib ./configure
[10:35] <neil__> same :) hehe
[10:36] <neil__> I don't understand the code in configure, not used to the syntax, so cant really help myself..
[10:36] <enry> good night!
[10:36] <stevethepirate> Whats a good ssh server?
[10:36] <stevethepirate> Cheers
[10:37] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, openssh
[10:37] <Yorokobi> or, if you want to pay for it Tectia
[10:37] <stevethepirate> What do i type to download it?
[10:37] <AaronCampbell> Does kubuntu have an equivolant to inittab?
[10:38] <Yorokobi> AaronCampbell, upstart is probably what you're looking for
[10:39] <AaronCampbell> I want to set it to boot to a prompt rather than X
[10:39] <Yorokobi> at least, I think that's what its called
[10:39] <Yorokobi> AaronCampbell, add exit 0 to the 2nd line of /etc/init.d/(k|g)dm
[10:39] <stevethepirate> What do i apt-get to get openssh?
[10:39] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, apt-get install openssh-server
[10:40] <stevethepirate> How do i get nvidia drivers?
[10:40] <Yorokobi> stevethepirate, sudo dselect
[10:40] <Yorokobi> Update
[10:40] <Yorokobi> Select
[10:40] <Yorokobi> Then use / and search
[10:41] <Irayo> Okay, I have a file set to mode 770 (rwxrwx---) owned by 'bob' and in group 'bob'.  User 'jim' is in group 'bob'.  How come jim can't read the file, even though he's in a group with read access?
[10:41] <Yorokobi> That was a bit laconic but at the moment, it seems like a good way to get you started stevethepirate
[10:42] <pollyo> If I decide to install Gnome in addition to KDE will it allow me to select what desktop to startup in?
[10:43] <PhinnFort> pollyo: yes, it should
[10:43] <PhinnFort> when you log in, you select either a gnome or kde session
[10:43] <stevethepirate> Can you help with that nvidia driver setup please...
[10:45] <stdin> Irayo: has "jim" logged out and back in since he was added to group "bob" ?
[10:46] <Irayo> stdin: err, well, "jim" is my KDE user, so no ... I'll try that
[10:46] <stevethepirate> How would i install my nvidia graphics drivers'
[10:47] <stdin> !nvidia
[10:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <neil__> Yorokobi: found a set of .debs on the authors site
[10:47] <neil__> they seem to work better
[10:47] <stevethepirate> I can't dude.. No internet..
[10:47] <Yorokobi> neil__, that's convenient
[10:47] <mervteck> can anyone tell me if this wishlist shows up for them? https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.asp?ID=5378366
[10:47] <neil__> I think the ./configure script is buggy as it ignores flags
[10:48] <Daisuke_Ido> stevethepirate: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:49] <matutano> here I am again... kdemanager still stalls at 28% (while configuring the network card) but with wireless assistant I can easly connect, my problem, is that it don't use WPA, I need to fix kde or have other network manager program as default :\
[10:50] <chijin> knetworkmanager seems to stall at 28% if the passphare is wrong
[10:51] <mart81> chijin: yeah here too, what about it?
[10:51] <Yorokobi> matutano, prior to using knetworkmanager, I always used 'sudo wlassistant'
[10:51] <matutano> what0s passphare? and what can U do :\
[10:51] <matutano> I'm using wlassistant
[10:52] <matutano> to be connected right now
[10:52] <matutano> but... in my work place I need to connect into a network that uses WPa
[10:52] <matutano>  :\
[10:52] <metalluver222> Okay so all of my dvd players on here.... arnt working
[10:52] <metalluver222> all of them have error messages
[10:52] <metalluver222> anyone have an idea on how to fix this
[10:53] <Yorokobi> matutano, um ... wlassistant at your current location and knetworkmanager at work ... ??
[10:53] <matutano> knetworkmanager can't connect ...
[10:53] <matutano> stalls on 28%
[10:54] <matutano> while configuring my network card
[10:54] <stevethepirate> My konsole won't let me type..
[10:54] <digital_logic> what kind of card is it?
[10:54] <neil__> If anyone wonders, it seems to work well :)
[10:54] <digital_logic> do you have a keyboard mr har har?
[10:54] <matutano> it uses RT2500 drivers
[10:55] <matutano> as default... it has worked already
[10:55] <digital_logic> can you tell from console if en*/eth* is up/down/configured/active?
[10:55] <matutano> ok ok
[10:55] <digital_logic> or, if lsmod says the driver modle for your card is actually loaded
[10:55] <matutano> must be I'm connect by wireless atm
[10:56] <matutano> (the driver) rt2500                188004  1
[10:56] <digital_logic> so...what's the problem then?
[10:57] <kofler> Where is the boost spirit package on Ubuntu?
[10:57] <matutano> the problem is that... I'm connectd using wireless assistant
[10:57] <anti_pop> booze ?
[10:57] <matutano> that does not have wpa
[10:57] <matutano> and in my work place I need wpa
[10:57] <digital_logic> Ahhhhhh
[10:58] <digital_logic> Ok, sorry, missed that part.
[10:58] <matutano> :\
[10:58] <matutano> lol no problem :P
[10:58] <kofler> I installed libboost-dev, and that seemed to install the header files for libboost_spirit, but nothing for boost spirit itself.
[10:58] <matutano> it's a reported problem... but none solution I've found all over internet has worked for me
[10:58] <kofler> I don't see a libboost_spirit.a anywhere.
[10:59] <digital_logic> kofler: install libbost too, -dev(s) are always just headers.
[10:59] <kofler> digital_logic: There's no such thing.
[10:59] <digital_logic> and libbost is C++ extension libs, it MAY not have that lib
[10:59] <kofler> digital_logic: Yes I know that, but first off, it's called boost, and secondly neither libbost nor libboost exists.
[11:00] <digital_logic> Hrm.
[11:00] <kofler> digital_logic: If it doesn't have that library, then why are the header files for it included?
[11:00] <kofler> digital_logic: In the -dev package that is.
[11:00] <digital_logic> so it can use function prototypes that are actually defined in a larger combined but equivilent libarary?
[11:01] <kofler> Are you just throwing buzzwords out there just to throw them out there?
[11:01] <kofler> That makes no sense.
[11:01] <kofler> If I gave you the prototypes, I'd also give you the source.
[11:01] <kofler> Either don't provide the prototypes or provide the source and the prototypes.
[11:02] <digital_logic> Well, I dunno.
[11:02] <digital_logic> libbost and me don't get along (stuff never builds against it for me)
[11:02] <neil__> !ipod
[11:02] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[11:02] <kofler> It's libboost! :\
[11:02] <Yorokobi> matutano, I had problems with knetworkmanager and wpa2 but not wpa or wep but I've since upgraded to feisty beta and haven't tried wpa2 again
[11:03] <digital_logic> meh, you know what I mean, I know what I'm thinking, so what if that's not what I said? :P
[11:03] <matutano> Yorokobi, there's anyproblem with feisty ?
[11:04] <Yorokobi> I have not had a problem with knetworkmanager and feisty
[11:04] <Yorokobi> ... out of the two times I've used it so far
[11:04] <matutano> Yorokobi,  can you give-me some kind of suport for feisty installation? :X
[11:05] <Yorokobi> matutano, such as?
[11:05] <matutano> and I'm using beryl, hopping that isn't messing up
[11:05] <matutano> wiki :X
[11:05] <Yorokobi> matutano, Xgl, beryl shouldn't have anything to do with knetworkmanager
[11:05] <odin-arg> aiglx ftw
[11:06] <pollyo> I'm using feisty.
[11:06] <pollyo> You can find more help with feisty in ubuntu+1
[11:06] <tux> w00t, now ubuntu officially rocks
[11:06] <matutano> pollyo, ubuntu+1 ?
[11:07] <matutano> I'm a newbie linux user lol
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> matutano: #ubuntu+1
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> it's another channel here on freenet
[11:07] <matutano> trying to use linux instead of windows
[11:07] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks.  Yes.  #ubuntu+1
[11:07] <pollyo> I still forget the #
[11:07] <matutano> lol
[11:08] <matutano> no problem I know how to connect :P
[11:08] <pollyo> Anyone know of a website that does hardware reviews for linux?
[11:09] <tux> matutano, once you know how linux works, you dont even want windows anymore
[11:09] <matutano> tux, I know that
[11:09] <Yorokobi> except for games :)
[11:09] <matutano> some of them :\
[11:09] <Daisuke_Ido> that's changing too
[11:09] <Yorokobi> unless you can get them to work under wine or cadega
[11:09] <matutano> the ones that use direct x
[11:09] <Daisuke_Ido> not completely, but somewhat
[11:10] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Is gaming starting to grow for linux?
[11:10] <Daisuke_Ido> no, i'm just dreaming :)
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[11:10] <Daisuke_Ido> there are the companies that release linux ports, but there aren't many of those
[11:10] <tux> oh lol
[11:10] <matutano> well I have vista
[11:10] <matutano> and what can I say
[11:10] <tux> get rid of it
[11:10] <tux> it's a virus
[11:11] <matutano> 500 M to run aero?
[11:11] <Daisuke_Ido> matutano: it's okay, we're all ashamed at some point in our lives, this is yours.
[11:11] <matutano> lololol
[11:11] <tux> it's ok to admin it
[11:11] <matutano> ok thanks xD
[11:11] <odin-arg> WINE has made huge leaps lately
[11:11] <tux> we all make mistakes
[11:11] <matutano> I only have a problem
[11:11] <odin-arg> won't be long till most things work out of the box
[11:11] <Daisuke_Ido> odin-arg: especially in the DX field
[11:11] <matutano> gnome and kde are installed at same time
[11:11] <Daisuke_Ido> truly awesome
[11:11] <tux> is it called vista mututano?
[11:11] <tux> the problem?
[11:11] <matutano> the new windows?
[11:11] <matutano> yap
[11:11] <Daisuke_Ido> matutano: what's te problem with that?
[11:11] <tux> vista is the problem
[11:11] <odin-arg> i installed steam and cs and cs:s and i get perfect fps and it worked first time
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> (gnome and kde)
[11:12] <matutano> sometimes it crashes
[11:12] <odin-arg> :] 
[11:12] <matutano> during log out
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> that shouldn't have to do with those
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> odin-arg: what release?
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i want to see if they finally have the longest journey working
[11:12] <odin-arg> edgy, wine 0.9.33, kde 3.5.6
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> that would make me cream in my jeans
[11:12] <odin-arg> using the new .msi installer aswell
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> and i didn't just say that.
[11:13] <matutano> lol my only problem so far by using linux, is that some things ain't that trivial
[11:13] <odin-arg> google! :D
[11:13] <matutano> I suffer microsoft disease :\
[11:13] <odin-arg> everything is out there
[11:13] <Daisuke_Ido> matutano: i did as well
[11:13] <matutano> but I don't miss blue screens
[11:13] <matutano> xD
[11:13] <Daisuke_Ido> i struggled for a while with "oh great, it was so much easier to do X in windows"
[11:13] <Daisuke_Ido> now i know that's not true :D
[11:14] <matutano> and in linux I have much more options :\
[11:14] <matutano> and there's no problems after getting right
[11:15] <odin-arg> tbh, i blame k/ubuntu for my falling in-love with linux
[11:15] <odin-arg> all other distros were that little bit more problematic
[11:15] <matutano> I had suse
[11:15] <odin-arg> me too
[11:15] <matutano> is to much like windows
[11:15] <matutano> lol
[11:15] <odin-arg> kubuntu wins tho :p
[11:15] <Daisuke_Ido> my first linux experience was mandrake
[11:15] <matutano> lol
[11:16] <Daisuke_Ido> then fedora core
[11:16] <odin-arg> mine was gentoo cuz im a bit of a silly one
[11:16] <digital_logic> mine was suse
[11:16] <digital_logic> (it never worked very long)
[11:16] <matutano> I had uninstalled linux after running ubunt x64
[11:16] <matutano> was so bad....
[11:16] <matutano> now with the 32 version, I'm getting crazzy with it
[11:16] <digital_logic> then I think i tried Kubuntu, but didn't get along with it either (because it had xserver).....now I like Debian. Headlessly.
[11:17] <jhutchins> redhat>madrake>suse>mandrake/mandriva, gentoo, fc, and kubuntu on alternate boxes.
[11:17] <matutano> Ubuntu 7.04 is the most user-friendly Ubuntu to date and includes a ground-breaking Windows migration assistant, excellent wireless networking support and improved multimedia support
[11:17] <Daisuke_Ido> whoa
[11:17] <matutano> hope so... is the worst in kubunt
[11:17] <Daisuke_Ido> windows migration assistant?
[11:18] <Yorokobi> windows migration assistant == automatic partition deleter
[11:19] <matutano> I can't upate do ubuntu 7.04 ?
[11:19] <matutano> *to
[11:19] <Daisuke_Ido> Yorokobi: ehh, sometimes, but there are a lot of people that have important documents (and don't back them up regualrly), so it's probably more than that
[11:20] <Yorokobi> True enough, Daisuke_Ido (favorite Ido :) )
[11:20] <matutano> I can't update to ubuntu 7.04 ?
[11:20] <Yorokobi> ido wa nan desu ka
[11:20] <Yorokobi> Why not, matutano ?
[11:20] <dec> anyone know of a good package for creating c programs in kde ubuntu, something that is easy to understand syntaxwise
[11:20] <matutano> I'm asking
[11:20] <Daisuke_Ido> dec: vim
[11:20] <kofler> dec: KDevelop is decent. But if you really want to learn, use vim and command line tools.
[11:21] <Daisuke_Ido> matutano: what are you running now?\
[11:21] <matutano> kubuntu
[11:21] <kofler> dec: Eclipse is okay as well if you're machine can handle the memory hog.
[11:21] <Daisuke_Ido> version?
[11:21] <matutano> dgy
[11:21] <matutano> edgy
[11:21] <dec> can i get vim using synaptic
[11:21] <Daisuke_Ido> you can do the disttro upgrade to feisty then install ubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <kofler> dec: sudo apt-get install vim-full
[11:22] <Yorokobi> matutano, this worked for me when I tried it (once so far) : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[11:22] <matutano> thanks xD
[11:22] <Yorokobi> to upgrade from edgy to feisty
[11:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Yorokobi: that's what i was talking about :)
[11:24] <N6REJ> how do you have samba shared folders show up on your desktop?  I've managed to verify that smbclient sees the shares on the server but I can't figure out how to make sure that they mount and stay mounted on kubuntu workstation.
[11:26] <eilker> !cedega
[11:26] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:26] <odin-arg> wine > cedega
[11:26] <odin-arg> !wine
[11:26] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:27] <matutano> I'm really sorry to anoy you guys again.... were the hell are the file to get some updates from internet (I don't know the name in english... is were the universe and multiuniverse things are)
[11:27] <stdin> N6REJ: you'll have to mount them then, use smb4k, it's a GUI for it
[11:27] <odin-arg> !reopsitories
[11:27] <odin-arg> awww
[11:27] <matutano> ok
[11:27] <odin-arg> that should so work
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reopsitories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <matutano> !repositories
[11:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:27] <Ionutz> !nvidia
[11:27] <stdin> matutano: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:28] <odin-arg> just search repositories in the kubuntu forums
[11:28] <odin-arg> :] 
[11:28] <stdin> odin-arg: you could just type !repo
[11:29] <stdin> instead of  !repositories
[11:29] <odin-arg> :p
[11:29] <N6REJ> mount them how?
[11:30] <stdin> N6REJ: like I said, use smb4k (in universe I believe)
[11:30] <stdin> !smb4k
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb4k - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <N6REJ> stdin: its already installed
[11:31] <N6REJ> stdin: OH THERE THEY ARE
[11:31] <N6REJ> ok, cool
[11:31] <stdin> N6REJ: :p
[11:31] <N6REJ> smb4k sees them
[11:31] <N6REJ> stdin: bah!
[11:32] <N6REJ> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[11:32] <N6REJ> smbmnt failed: 1
[11:32] <stdin> N6REJ: you only need to mount if you want non-kde apps to read network files, kde apps can use the smb:/ kioslave
[11:32] <stdin> N6REJ: sudo chmod u+s $(which smbmnt)
[11:32] <N6REJ> stdin: ok, lets say for example amarok.  I want ALL mp3s to be stored in a mp3 folder on the server.
[11:33] <N6REJ> stdin: it was the cdrom on the server.
[11:33] <N6REJ> stdin: I ALWAYS want the cdrom on the server to mount if it has something in it.
[11:33] <matutano> I have another problem... may <Alt> isn't working... for writing :\
[11:34] <crookshanks> anyone know off the top of their head which package has section 2 of the socket manpage?
[11:34] <N6REJ> k
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> matutano: right alt?
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> or left alt?
[11:34] <matutano> both
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> dunno then
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[11:35] <matutano> they work as changing keys, but don't let-me do @ f.e. (had copy this one from console)
[11:35] <joggo> hi
[11:36] <pollyo> What do I select to have the ubuntu gnome setup on my machine as well as the kubuntu kde setup?
[11:36] <stdin> crookshanks: manpages-dev seems to have it
[11:36] <crookshanks> stdin: great, thanks
[11:36] <stdin> !gnome
[11:36] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[11:36] <Noxville> Hello
[11:36] <Noxville> Anyone still here?
[11:37] <stdin> pollyo: install ubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <pollyo> stdin: Thank you.
[11:37] <Stevethepirate2> Hello.
[11:37] <Stevethepirate2> Anyone still here'
[11:39] <ionus> !nvidia
[11:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:39] <Stevethepirate2> Wish i could have read that before i ducked up my install.
[11:40] <Stevethepirate2> Can anyone actally read what i'm writing?
[11:40] <Stevethepirate2> Hello?
[11:41] <odin-arg> Heya
[11:41] <stdin> yes, we can read you
[11:41] <odin-arg> what was the problem?
[11:42] <x`0ff> hey , I got a problem with my screen
[11:42] <x`0ff> yesterday I installed kubuntu, and now whenever I scroll down or up
[11:42] <x`0ff> my screen is like "cut in frames"
[11:42] <stevethepirate> Me too.. Had that problem 5 mins ago
[11:42] <x`0ff> it doesnt scrool smoothly
[11:42] <stevethepirate> Oh.
[11:42] <odin-arg> mm :/
[11:42] <x`0ff> anyway I can change that?
[11:43] <x`0ff> I'm thinkin it has to do with the xorg.conf
[11:43] <odin-arg> u on edgy or feisty?
[11:43] <x`0ff> edgy
[11:43] <ionus> !nvidia
[11:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:44] <stevethepirate> What do i need to play .wma and .m4a 's?
[11:44] <odin-arg> w32codecs
[11:44] <odin-arg> ionus, google Envy
[11:44] <odin-arg> works lovely
[11:44] <odin-arg> :] 
[11:45] <joggo> !nvidia
[11:45] <stdin> stevethepirate: .m4a is mpeg4 audio, if it's from itunes tho, it's DRM'ed and you can't play it
[11:45] <stevethepirate> Whats the command to install them'
[11:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:45] <stevethepirate> Its not from itunes.. I ripped it myself
[11:46] <stdin> stevethepirate: mpeg4 audio is play with the same packages as mp3s (afaik)
[11:46] <pulaski> hello all
[11:46] <tux> matutano: deleted vista already?
[11:46] <ionus> i cant chage resolution
[11:46] <ionus> ?
[11:46] <pulaski> has anyone had any experience using krec recording app with a microphone as input?
[11:46] <stevethepirate> How do i get support for wma then?
[11:46] <stdin> !resolution | ionus
[11:46] <ubotu> ionus: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:47] <mooseshaped> i have vista on cd somewhere, new coaster :d
[11:47] <tux> ubotu you're quick
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you're quick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <pulaski> I can't get the vu meter to register a signal
[11:47] <tux> nooo mooseshaped burn the CD
[11:47] <stdin> stevethepirate: w32codecs, info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[11:47] <mooseshaped> got it from work, i have a windows laptop
[11:47] <stevethepirate> I can't open webpages.. I'm on cellphone
[11:48] <mooseshaped> soon to be a vista laptop because I want to laugh
[11:48] <stdin> stevethepirate: well you need to download the .deb and install it
[11:48] <sparr> what should be QTDIR be while building qt libraries and apps?
[11:48] <stevethepirate> Can't i apt-get it?
[11:48] <tux> mooseshaped: training your control alt delete fingers already?
[11:48] <stdin> stevethepirate: no
[11:49] <stevethepirate> Shit.
[11:49] <stdin> !language
[11:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:49] <stevethepirate> Could you email it to me?
[11:49] <tux> so everybody: dont say the word vista anymore :D
[11:49] <Sanne> sparr: /usr/share/qt3
[11:49] <mooseshaped> hehe
[11:49] <stdin> stevethepirate: sure /msg me your email address
[11:49] <mooseshaped> :says it
[11:49] <tux> noooooooo
[11:49] <william> Hi all, does anyone know which program I have to us to remotecontrol my Kubuntu system using RDP via win XP
[11:50] <mooseshaped> ssh william
[11:50] <mooseshaped> that will get to the command prompt
[11:50] <Dasnipa`> william, also vncserver/viewer are useful
[11:50] <stdin> !vnc
[11:50] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:51] <ionus> change resolution
[11:51] <ionus> please hepl to change resolution
[11:51] <william> Dasnipa thx but i can't use VNC as our company firewall blocks it
[11:52] <mooseshaped> what ports do you have available william?
[11:52] <stevethepirate> Tunnel it through on port 110
[11:52] <Dasnipa`> port 80
[11:53] <LeeJunFan> william: you can set VNC to listen on any port you want.
[11:53] <william> i usually use NAT port 8080 to what ever but somehow VNC still deosent work
[11:54] <DrX> can anyone help a relative newbie backup a block device (/dev/sda5)?
[11:55] <william> Dasnipa  i usually forward port 8080 via NAT port 3389 but somehow VNC still deosent work
[11:55] <stdin> DrX: dd is what you want
[11:56] <digital_logic> mmmm
[11:56] <LeeJunFan> well, only if you want to back it bit by bit, rsync is better if you want to copy the files w/o all the 0's between them.
[11:56] <digital_logic> dd
[11:56] <Dasnipa`> william, hm
[11:56] <digital_logic> dd is fun
[11:56] <stevethepirate> How. When deist
[11:56] <alexey> yeah dd if=/dev/sda of=filename
[11:56] <digital_logic> but you can pipe dd though gzip and it will scompresst the zeros out
[11:56] <alexey> or dump/restore
[11:57] <digital_logic> (but once you ungzip it it will be the full sparse size again)
[11:57] <digital_logic> using bs=32K or something will help
[11:57] <digital_logic> (most drives will perform better if you given them big block sizes)
[11:57] <LeeJunFan> rsync will allow you to make incremental backups as well. So you can backup daily and it'll only need to copy the files that have changed. dd will copy the whole device every time.
[11:57] <DrX> stdin, i can't get the /dev/sda5 mounted
[11:57] <digital_logic> dosent' need to be.
[11:58] <stdin> DrX: tried fsck on it?
[11:58] <DrX> stdin, can't afford to lose the data, lose the data, lose my job
[11:58] <digital_logic> you're not reading from the filesystem, you're reading from the disk itself (dd dosen't care what's on the disk, it just reads blocks and writes them to wherever)
[11:58] <hyper_ch> LeeJunFan: rsync doesn't even copy the whole files that were altered but only the altered parts of it :)
[11:58] <william> Dasnipa I've also tried using the stabdart remote prog from KUBUNTU but it crashes after a few seconds
[11:59] <ionus> please hepl to change resolution
[11:59] <digital_logic> Drx, is sda1-4 mounted?
[11:59] <DrX> digital_logic: so I can dd /dev/sda5 without mounting it?
[11:59] <william> Dasnipa connecting to windows works but not to Linux and I'm tired of using windows
[11:59] <digital_logic> yes
[11:59] <ionus> please hepl to change resolution
[11:59] <N6REJ> ionus: display resolution is controled in system settings under display
[11:59] <DrX> digital_logic: /dev/sda2 is mounted
[11:59] <Dasnipa`> william, that is weird man i dunno
[11:59] <LeeJunFan> DrX: if you can't mount it the dd IS what you want. you make an image of the disk and you can treat it like a device, mount it with loopback, run fsck on it , etc...
[11:59] <pollyo> Where do I find infromation on dd?
[11:59] <N6REJ> !dd | polly0
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <stevethepirate> How do i set my pc to get a new dhcp address on start-up?
[11:59] <pollyo> Thank you.
[11:59] <digital_logic> weird things would happen if it were mounted and you started reading sequential blocks from the drive
[11:59] <alexey> When there was problems with mount dump/restore couple of times help me
[11:59] <N6REJ> pollyo: man dd
[11:59] <Dasnipa`> william, can you connect to the windows, and from that connection connect to linux?
[11:59] <digital_logic> ok
[12:00] <N6REJ> pollyo: from konsole
[12:00] <LeeJunFan> !info dd
[12:00] <ubotu> Package dd does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:00] <ionus> i cant change resolution
[12:00] <DrX> LeeJunFan: and I can dd it back anytime I need to?
[12:00] <digital_logic> so then DRX since sda2 is mounted
[12:00] <ionus> i cant change resolution
[12:00] <eilker> !wget > eilker
[12:00] <LeeJunFan> DrX: yes
[12:00] <ionus> i cant change resolution
[12:00] <Sanne> pollyo: man dd, or type man:/dd in konqueror for easier reading
[12:00] <digital_logic> you'd want to dd if=/dev/sda5 bs=128k of=/file/on/partition/bigger/than/sda5
[12:00] <LeeJunFan> DrX: if the HD is suspect of failing, try to make one dd as a backup, then copy that file and try to repair that 2nd backup file as a drive.
[12:00] <stdin> !repeat | ionus
[12:00] <ubotu> ionus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:01] <N6REJ> ionus: there is a tab that says "limit to what my card supports" if that is checked then that is the "problem" but its not a problem because you have something going on with the card
[12:01] <DrX> LeeJunFan: /dev/sda5 is 60GB, is it going to backup all 60GB or just the data?  (60G would be hard for me to archive)
[12:01] <stdin> Ubotu, tell ionus about resolution | ionus, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:01] <LeeJunFan> DrX: that way you keep your first dd to make copies of, and in case the HD is failing you don't have to worry about making more dd's.
[12:01] <N6REJ> stdin: ty
[12:01] <LeeJunFan> DrX: it's going to back up the whole thing, bit by bit.
[12:01] <ionus> i instal driver and i cant chage resolution
[12:01] <digital_logic> Drx: yes, you'd end up with 1 60GB file.
[12:01] <DrX> LeeJunFan: can dd compress the target image?
[12:02] <digital_logic> you could (and would need to) use split to break up the hunks to copy though smb
[12:02] <N6REJ> ionus: did you follow all the directions?
[12:02] <LeeJunFan> DrX: I think digital_logic said above you can pipe dd to gzip
[12:02] <digital_logic> no, but gzip can
[12:02] <alexey> no you should compress it with gzip
[12:02] <digital_logic> But then you can't access it
[12:02] <DrX> oh, so make a file image with DD to another 60GB block device, then compress it to a third block device using GZIP?
[12:03] <digital_logic> well, umm...yea if the goal was to get a compressed file containing the data that you couldn't access anymore (only becaue you can't read transparently though gzip)
[12:03] <LeeJunFan> digital_logic: if your job is that important, maybe it's important enough to go buy a USB HD to back this up to? :)
[12:04] <LeeJunFan> err DrX
[12:04] <LeeJunFan> sry
[12:04] <hyper_ch> it would use incremental snapshot-style backups using rsync and hardlinks
[12:04] <DrX> digital_logic, i have one here, no problem, i was referring to fsck
[12:04] <stdin> you can try something like "dd if=/dev/sda5 of=- | zcat - > backup.gz" that *should* work
[12:05] <digital_logic> I'm not sure how images work in linux (never tried) but I *DO* know that OSX will recoginze the resulting file that dd outputs (the uncomrpessed one) as a read/write sparse disk image if you chage the extension to .dmg
[12:05] <digital_logic> I'm sure something similar could be done in windows/linux (but don't know how)
[12:05] <digital_logic> you don't need the of
[12:05] <digital_logic> dd will by default read/write to sdin/out if no arg given
[12:06] <digital_logic> and i'll *REPEAT*, if you gzip the output file, you can't access the data until you unarchive it.
[12:06] <DrX> I plan to do a dd but I would also like to run a backup utility that can compress the actual bits (it's one very large file but it's probably only 5-8GB of the 60G total & the smaller image will be easier to move around)
[12:06] <Dasnipa`> DrX, in soviet russia, fsck you
[12:06] <digital_logic> which means you'd need probably ~100G of space.
[12:06] <ZmAY> hello, can somebody help me with storing 1 file to floppy disk
[12:06] <digital_logic> Ok
[12:07] <digital_logic> hold on, lemme see if I can find my dd imager sciript
[12:07] <digital_logic> (made for just this kind of thing)
[12:07] <digital_logic> though, it was written to work on smbfs, which means it also had to split files into hunks <2GB
[12:07] <coty_> is there a such think called jewbuntu
[12:07] <AFK> Hey all
[12:08] <DrX> I
[12:08] <coty_> someone just tolled me that there is a jewbuntu
[12:08] <LeeJunFan> DrX: if you dd it to a file you can mount it with mount -oloop [filename]  [mountpoint] , you can fsck it as well. You're better off dding the parition rather than the whole drive in that case, it's easier to work with loopback that way.
[12:08] <AZNSLD> Could I get some help?
[12:08] <coty_> but i have never heard of it
[12:08] <AZNSLD> If some one has the time
[12:08] <stdin> coty_: if there is, it's not an official version
[12:08] <DrX> digital_logic: so, do you think I should avoid gzip or it's not a big risk/problem?
[12:09] <coty_> stdin: so there pulling my leg
[12:09] <LeeJunFan> DrX: if you gzip you can't treat the resulting file as if it were a hd.
[12:09] <AZNSLD> Does anyone know about iptables
[12:09] <digital_logic> yes
[12:09] <stdin> coty_: maybe, maybe not. there are modified versions of ubuntu out there that aren't official
[12:09] <digital_logic> If you need to ACCESS the data, then you don't want to compress it.
[12:09] <digital_logic> however, if you need to MOVE it around then you'd want to compress it.
[12:09] <coty_> stdin: well the link to it is not real the one they gave me
[12:10] <DrX> digital_logic: for backup & restore mainly, what do you think?
[12:10] <digital_logic> then compressing it would make perfect sense
[12:10] <grgs_> hello se olous
[12:10] <DrX> why do you suppose I can't mount the ext3 block device BUT the contents work just fine?
[12:10] <digital_logic> you could create a fancy pipe that would go from disk->compressed&split file, and then one that goes from compressed&splitfiles->cat->back to disk
[12:11] <digital_logic> magical pixie dust? I dunno, could be anything.
[12:11] <LeeJunFan> DrX: what? you can't access the contents of a partition if it isn't mounted.
[12:11] <DrX> LeeJunFan: oh, no, kimosabe, this isn't so
[12:12] <LeeJunFan> DrX: yes it is.
[12:12] <LeeJunFan> DrX: how do you know it isn't mounted?
[12:12] <DrX> LeeJunFan: fdisk -l doesn't show it
[12:12] <DrX> sorry, mount doesn't show it
[12:12] <LeeJunFan> DrX: mount reads mtab, what's the device name again?