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mptdanilos, if you're still awake, could you reply to Sverin Lemaignan on launchpad-users@ and to Jamoney jamin on rosetta-users@? 12:43
Kmoswhen it's the next user meeting ?12:44
pochudoes LP already give karma for package uploads?12:45
ajmitchpochu: no12:45
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pochuthen I'll file a bug, if it's not already filed :)12:46
ajmitchI know there's one already somewhere12:54
pochudone, bug 97623 :)12:54
ubotuMalone bug 97623 in launchpad "Launchpad should give karma for package uploads" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9762312:54
pochuajmitch: I couldn't find it12:54
ajmitchbug 5459612:55
ubotuMalone bug 54596 in soyuz "karma for uploads" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5459612:55
pochuhehe, I was searching in launchpad :-/12:56
pochuI'll mark it as a dup :)12:56
ajmitchwise choice :)12:56
pochuassigned to cprov-afk :)12:59
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ubotuNew bug: #97623 in launchpad "Launchpad should give karma for package uploads (dup-of: 54596)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9762301:06
ubotuNew bug: #97633 in malone "Assigning a bug to myself produces misleading "You have been subscribed" e-mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9763301:21
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ubotuNew bug: #97648 in malone "Two bug comments appear in the wrong order" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9764802:20
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kikoHobbsee!02:56
kikomy favorite beta critique-r02:56
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radixhey why don't you like _me_03:04
radixI complain about beta all the time03:04
ajmitchah, a Hobbsee 03:05
ubotuNew bug: #97656 in launchpad "please respond to http://bugs.launchpad.net/(\d+)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9765603:05
Hobbseeheya kiko!03:29
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magicfabkiko04:03
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bdmurraylifeless: ping05:14
lifelessongp05:15
bdmurrayDo you if it is possible to mark a bug as a duplicate with the e-mail interface to Malone?05:17
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kikoradix, I like you too. kinda. but you're not my favorite05:20
lifelessbdmurray: hmm, help.lp.net query time...05:23
bdmurraylifeless: I found the bug05:23
bdmurrayabout that feature not exisiting05:23
lifelesshttps://help.launchpad.net/UsingMaloneEmail05:23
lifelessargle05:23
lifelessI know know about this ;)05:24
kikospiv_! time for some make lint love?05:24
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ubotuNew bug: #97691 in launchpad "Location bar list is vertical in Internet Explorer 6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9769105:30
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spivkiko-zzz: the breakage was trivial.05:35
spivSo I fixed it :)05:35
thumperspiv: has it landed/05:44
thumper?05:44
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spivthumper: it's "Now Playing..." on PQM.05:45
thumperspiv: yay05:46
thumperit means I can avoid getting all those reviewer responses from flacoste05:47
thumperthat say "this import is not used"05:47
spivYep.05:48
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spivthumper: landed06:40
thumperspiv: w00t06:43
spivthumper: not that ":!pyflakes %" is hard to type in vim...06:47
thumperspiv: yeah I guess, but "make lint" is easy on the command line :)06:47
thumperspiv: how does the make rule determine what to check?06:48
thumperis it just non-committed files?06:48
spivadded or modified files.06:48
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carlosmorning09:36
mrevellmorning carlos09:42
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carlosmrevell: hey, how's going?09:47
mrevellcarlos: not bad thanks, you?09:47
carlosfine, is still difficult for me to wake up in time after the time change, but fine ;-)09:48
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schwukmrevell: ping10:45
mrevellschwuk: pong10:45
schwukwho runs the launchpad-users list?10:45
mrevellschwuk: Me, Steve A and kiko10:46
schwukwould it be possbile to get a prefix put on the subject? makes it much easier to automatically filter :)10:46
mrevellschwuk: Ooooh :)10:46
mrevellschwuk: There are lots of people who hate prefixes on subject lines10:46
mrevellschwuk: me included :)10:46
schwukWell, you can't help being wrong! :)10:46
mrevellschwuk: What mail software are you using?10:46
mrevellha10:46
mrevellOh, damn, I've got to to get to the dentist. I'll be back in 20 mins10:47
schwukI use procmail for my filtering. I know I can get it to file the l-u list as it is, but prefixes are easier10:47
mrevellschwuk: I suppose we could put it to a vote.10:47
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mooeyhum. i'm getting some duplicate bug mail from launchpad, some arrived this morning that i also had two days ago (same bug replies)10:48
bigjoolsschwuk: In the mail headers there will be many List-xxx headers and a Sender: header.  Filter on one of those.10:59
bigjoolsI use procmail also10:59
schwukbigjools: that's what I've used, I was just being lazy :)11:00
bigjoolsyes, you are :)11:00
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pochuthough I don't filter LP-users, since it's volume is low :)11:01
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ubotuNew bug: #96573 in edgy-backports "/enigmaenigma package is broken in Kubuntu 6.10 backports" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9657311:56
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kiko-zzzif you want to see the new fully-clickable tabs in action, just shift-reload a launchpad page12:37
kiko-zzzyay12:37
cprovgood morning !12:40
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kiko-afkhey cprov ole man12:40
cprovkiko-afk: hi there !12:41
kiko-afkhow's it going?12:41
cprovkiko-afk: well, spending a lot of time to fix tests in nascentupload-cataclysm12:42
pochukiko-afk: cool, looks good :)12:43
kiko-afkcprov, do you need any help?12:43
kiko-afkpochu, yeah, finally fixed that bong highlighting thing12:43
cprovkiko-afk: i have done some changes in the NU API, like not passing logger & fsroot and it just broke-the-system.12:44
cprovkiko-afk: yes, sure, if you have time this afternoon.12:44
kiko-afkcprov, sure. It's not easy to not supply logger12:44
kiko-afkare you sure that's a good idea?12:45
ubotuNew bug: #98544 in malone "Keyboard Shortcuts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9854412:45
cprovkiko-afk: It looked like a good thing, but ended up creating unrelated problems, I'm afraid12:46
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cprovkiko-afk: but maybe I'm just getting it wrong in my code. We will see.12:47
kiko-afkcprov, it's not tests that are broken but the code that's broken right?12:47
kiko-afkthe problems can't be all unrelated. come in the afternoon and we'll sort it out.12:47
cprovkiko-afk: indeed. Ok, I will. Thanks 12:48
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sadlederis any of the launchpad admins in here?01:18
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SteveAddaa: "kiko-afk and SteveA are launchpad admins" would be a better answer01:26
SteveAas it requires that someone know that kiko-afk is an admin before your comment makes any sense01:27
ddaaSteveA: right01:27
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ubotuNew bug: #98559 in malone "Firefox does not open media without totem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9855901:45
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johnJust a small comment. The gnome bugzilla is hideous and very unfriendly(i was reporting a bug). Working with launchpad is much better. The gnome people should do something about this in my opinion.01:49
mooeyit could have been worse, you might have had to report a bug in a stock bugzilla :p01:50
johnYeah. I have some prior experience in that. And i simply didn't report the bug. However, now i strongly believe that this entire process should be as simple as possible and as pleasant as possible for the user if you want the users to actually report the bugs instead of just giving up on the whole thing.01:53
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mooeyjohn: absolutly. just report bugs in launchpad, if needed somebody will report it upstream for you01:53
mooeywhich also has the helpful side effect that a friendly launchpad user might scratch your itch :-)01:54
johnIt was a bug against gnome-utils. So i asked in a few channels and they said that i should do it on the gnome bugzilla. I reported another bug in launchpad for a different issue.01:54
mooeyif you think that ubuntu can do something about it, launchpad is probably the best place01:56
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johnWell, i am a big fan of distros working with upstream since users will typically use gnome through the distro itself and not use it directly. Anyway, i can understand how this is troublesome. Thank you.02:03
mooeyubuntu works pretty well with upstream02:05
mooeyinfact in a few packages in launchpad, mainly gnome-related items, upstream developers themselves will triage the bugs02:06
mooeys/will/do/ - i mean, some upstream developers monitor their packages in launchpad, so we don't tend to need to report bugs upstream for those02:07
johnSo just a question. How come i can't report again gnome-utils? Or did i miss something?02:11
ddaajohn: let me get this straight, you reported a bug for gnome-utils in the gnome bugzilla, and you want to report the same bug on ubuntu?02:12
johnddaa: no no. First i went to launchpad to report it. But then everything was grayed out. So i asked where do i report that, and they said gnome bugzilla.02:14
ddaaokay02:14
ddaahere's a 1 minute crash course on doing what you really mean02:14
ddaa1. find the page for gnome-utils in ubuntu feisty02:14
gnomefreakjohn: if you cant find the package to file against use ubuntu and add your bugzilla bug link to the report after telling us about it02:14
ddaa2. file a bug there02:15
ddaa3. then tell launchpad that the bugs also occurs upstream02:15
ddaaand give it the url of the bugzilla bug02:16
ddaajohn: the "find the package in the right distro release" bit is a bit counter intuitive at first, I'm sorry about this02:16
ddaajohn: makes sense?02:16
johnddaa: I went to the page, and everything was grayed out. Hold on. Let me try that again.02:17
ddaamh02:18
ddaaI see02:18
johnddaa: So i am now here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+package/gnome-utils and everything is grayed out.02:19
ddaaI see02:19
johnddaa: So i try to choose the proper one which is the i38602:19
ddaagot it02:19
ddaahttps://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/gnome-utils02:19
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ddaaOMG is that counter-intuitive!02:19
johnddaa: I can't access that page02:21
gnomefreakddaa: your link is page not found02:21
gnomefreakhis link the tabs are greyed :(02:21
ddaameh?02:21
gnomefreakfile it against ubuntu and someone will change it ;)02:21
ddaahttps://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/ works for me!02:21
gnomefreakddaa: OOPS-453BA2402:21
ddaahttps://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+filebug02:21
ddaaTHAT should work damnit02:22
gnomefreakOOPS-453BC15  02:22
ddaa!!!02:22
gnomefreaklol02:22
gnomefreakyou know what02:22
gnomefreakits not grabbing full url :(02:22
gnomefreakdamn irssi02:22
gnomefreakworks for me now02:22
ddaagnomefreak: so please file a bug on your irc client or terminal emulator...02:23
ddaagrrrr....02:23
gnomefreakjohn: remove the beta part of link if your not using beta LP and you should beable to get there02:23
ddaasorry, the file bug page is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+filebug02:23
ddaajohn: and please file a bug about it being way too hard to file a bug on an ubuntu package...02:24
johnddaa: For me, when i try to login. it says restricted site. Ah ok....where do i do that?02:24
gnomefreakbbl i have to think :(02:24
johngnomefreak: Ok. It worked for that URL.02:25
gnomefreakjohn: use the link he gave you without beta in it02:25
ddaaworkrave02:25
johngnomefreak: I did. And it worked.02:26
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ubotuNew bug: #98583 in launchpad "link to complicated bug form illegible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9858302:40
ubotuNew bug: #98585 in launchpad "No tag list on bug edit form" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9858502:40
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totalwormagels02:45
totalwormage>_<02:45
totalwormagehi all02:45
totalwormagei would like to report a small typo in launchpad :] 02:45
totalwormageit's the url on this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+package/ktorrent02:46
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Hobbseeheya kiko-afk!!!02:55
Flux--hay02:56
Hobbseekiko-afk: what'd you want me for earlier?02:56
gnomefreakthe link is wrong on that page too03:09
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mooeytotalwormage: where is the typo03:09
Fujitsumooey: I don't think i. is a valid domain name.03:11
totalwormagemooey: it's the link, the url it says 'http:/i/' instead of 'http://' :] 03:12
mooeyFujitsu: so it isn't :-)03:12
mooeytotalwormage: if you'd like to report a bug, https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+filebug is the best place to file it03:12
mooeyerk03:12
mooeyremove beta from the url >_>03:12
totalwormage:]  so i can file bugs in launchpad on launchpad? :] 03:14
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mooeytotalwormage: you can, yea, but the bug isn't in launchpad, that url comes from the package itself03:15
totalwormageahhh, so i see :] 03:16
totalwormagegreat! :p03:16
totalwormagethanks03:16
mooeythanks for reporting it, totalwormage 03:17
totalwormageno problem :p03:17
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Flux--hello, I need help with launchpad I want to star translation team for a new language, I send email to rosetta@launchpad.net but I have no answer03:22
matsubaracarlos, danilo_ ^03:23
carlosFlux--: I have it in my TODO list, don't worry. Will try to get it done later today03:23
danilo_Flux--: rosetta@launchpad.net is receiving a lot of email, and I am a bit behind on it03:23
Flux--danilo_, thank you, i will wait :D03:25
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bersaceHi all03:30
bersaceI want to rename gnomescan to gnome-scan03:30
bersacehttp://launchpad.net/gnomescan03:30
bersacebut i can't03:30
bersacehow to ?03:30
bersacei also want to change the svn source03:30
bersacei migrate gnome-scan from gna to gnome.org03:30
bersacehow to ?03:30
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ubotuNew bug: #98606 in rosetta "german translation bug in pacman description" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9860603:31
bersacesadleder: ;)03:32
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KuhrscherHi, how long does it usually take atm untill a user upload of of po file is imported to Rosetta?03:38
KuhrscherOr do they have to be approved manually?03:38
danilo_Kuhrscher: if the user is authorised translator, then it needs no automatic approval, and the time it takes depends on whether there are other things waiting to be imported03:39
danilo_Kuhrscher: when there aren't other things waiting to be imported, it takes between 10 and 20 minutes03:39
KuhrscherI uploaded some desktop-* files a few days ago...03:40
danilo_s/automatic approval/manual approval/03:40
danilo_Kuhrscher: there are around 21000 files to be imported at the moment, and we are processing files from March 26th at the moment03:41
KuhrscherAs a member of a translation team I am an authorized translator, right?03:41
KuhrscherAhh, ok. So I will keep waiting ;-)03:41
danilo_Kuhrscher: we have plans to improve this by prioritizing manual uploads (most of these are from Ubuntu packages)03:42
KuhrscherThat would be great...03:43
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kiko-afkHobbsee, it was just to say hi!03:55
Hobbseekiko-afk: :D03:55
Hobbseekiko-afk: heya!03:55
kiko-afkI fixed the tabs yesterday03:55
kiko-afkdid you see that?03:55
Rinchenkiko-afk, I did ;-) 03:56
kiko-afkRinchen, I hear you see everything, though.03:56
RinchenAll-seeing, mostly, All-knowing - far from it. :-) 03:57
kiko-afkSteveA, should we have this meeting thing?03:57
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ubotuNew bug: #98614 in malone "Edit a bug and add the same tag twice causes oops" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9861404:00
SteveAit is indeed04:00
SteveAthat tim04:00
SteveAe04:00
SteveAagain04:00
SteveAWelcome04:01
SteveAto the weekly Launchpad development meeting04:01
SteveAfor the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating about launchpad development04:01
SteveAwho is here today?04:01
mrevellme04:01
cprovme04:01
jtvme04:01
barryme04:01
BjornTme04:01
salgadome04:01
sinzuime?04:01
kikome04:01
ddaahere04:01
ddaaacting envoy for jml, thumper and spiv04:01
bacme04:01
flacosteme04:01
Rinchenme04:01
matsubarame04:01
bigjoolsme04:01
mthaddonme04:01
danilo_me04:01
totalwormageme04:01
carlosme04:02
mptme04:02
statikme04:02
SteveAhi totalwormage.  welcome to the meeting.04:02
kikowhat a cool nick totalwormage 04:02
carlosjtv: ping04:03
jtvcarlos: pong04:03
carlosoh, sorry, I didn't see your 'me' line04:04
carlos:-P04:04
totalwormagekiko: thanks04:04
jtvcarlos: too fast for ya04:04
kikostealth jtv04:04
SteveAtoday's agenda:04:04
carlos:-P04:04
SteveA== Agenda ==04:04
SteveA * Roll call04:04
SteveA * Agenda04:04
SteveA * Next meeting04:04
SteveA * Activity reports04:04
SteveA * Actions from last meeting04:04
SteveA * Oops report (Matsubara)04:04
SteveA * Bug report (mpt/joey)04:04
SteveA * Bug tags04:04
SteveA * Production and staging (Stuart)04:04
SteveA * Launchpad 1.0 status reports04:04
SteveA * Sysadmin requests04:04
SteveA----04:04
SteveA * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)04:04
SteveA * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell)04:04
SteveA * (other items)04:04
SteveA----04:04
SteveA * Three sentences04:04
SteveA04:04
SteveAalso, welcome to jtv 04:04
SteveAjamesh sends apologies, he can't make the meeting today04:04
SteveAthanks for acting as lp-bzr team envoy again, ddaa04:04
SteveA04:05
SteveAnext meeting: same time next week04:05
jtvSteveA: thx04:05
SteveAjtv is jeroen.  he's working on the translations parts of launchpad, along with carlos and danilo_ 04:05
SteveA * Activity reports04:05
SteveAI'm not up to date again04:05
danilo_behind again04:05
stubme04:05
flacosteup to date04:05
bigjoolsup to date04:05
stubup to date04:05
bacup to date04:05
BjornTup to date04:06
barryup to date04:06
salgadoup to date04:06
kikoI sent some but missed many04:06
jtvup to date04:06
matsubaraup to date04:06
sinzuiup to date04:06
ddaaup to date04:06
ddaa<jml> Not up to date, at Sydney Bazaar sprint.04:06
ddaa<thumper> Up to date04:06
ddaaspiv did not mention it, but does not appear up do date04:06
mthaddonup to date04:06
carlosI owe two weeks of reports and started again this Monday04:06
statikup to date04:06
cprovnot up to date, started again yesterday04:06
mrevellI'm behind on a few days - sorry, will catch up after meeting.04:06
SteveA04:06
SteveA == People who were lax with activity reporting last week ==04:06
SteveA * carlos04:06
SteveA * cprov04:06
SteveA * danilos04:06
kikobut in my defense I fixed the tabs.04:06
SteveA * kiko04:06
mptup to date04:06
SteveA * spiv04:06
SteveA * SteveA04:06
SteveA04:06
SteveAno improvers this week04:06
SteveAwell done to all those who are up to date04:07
SteveA * Actions from last meeting04:07
SteveA * '''stub''' to ask Tom to attend these meetings04:07
stubdid04:07
SteveAmthaddon: hi04:07
mthaddonhere :)04:07
SteveAwelcome mthaddon 04:07
mthaddonSteveA: thx04:07
SteveA * '''jamesh''', '''Rinchen''' and '''SteveA''' to discuss:04:07
SteveA  * getting a database interruption to cause a Retry in the app servers04:07
SteveAwe had a brief irc discussion iirc04:08
SteveAI don't know how this work is prioritised in jamesh's todo list though04:08
SteveA  * new code baseline for scripts04:08
SteveAstub: you're rolling this out tomorrow, right?04:08
stubYes04:08
ddaaRoll baby roll!04:08
SteveA * '''mrevell''' to update the course of action in bug 8918304:09
ubotuMalone bug 89183 in launchpad "beta URLs don't redirect to production if person is not in beta team" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8918304:09
SteveA * '''mrevell''' and '''Rinchen''' to see if someone wants to fix bug 89183 on FiF04:09
Rinchenno takers04:09
SteveAno problem04:10
mrevellSteveA: Bug updated as requested04:10
SteveAwe'll look at getting someone to do it next week04:10
RinchenI'll double check to ensure that bug is on the priority list04:10
Rinchenfor FiF04:10
SteveA * Oops report (Matsubara)04:10
matsubaraToday's oops report is about bugs 94164, 97440 and 9861404:10
ubotuMalone bug 94164 in launchpad "Adding a team with only deactivated members to another team crashes." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9416404:10
ubotuMalone bug 97440 in launchpad "Librarian is not thread safe" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97440 - Assigned to Stuart Bishop (stub)04:10
ubotuMalone bug 98614 in malone "Edit a bug and add the same tag twice causes oops" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9861404:10
matsubarasalgado, thanks for remembering me of bug 94164. Would you take it? :)04:11
matsubaraWho should work on bug 97440? spiv?04:11
matsubaraoh, stub took it already04:11
matsubaraBjornT, can you take 98614?04:11
kikoand it was just landed04:11
salgadomatsubara, probably not. I already have plenty of stuff for the upcoming weeks04:11
kikoI heard it on the radio04:11
kikomatsubara, there's this disturbing oops crash bug 9861404:11
BjornTmatsubara: sure04:11
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matsubaraSteveA: I'm done. here. I can take care of 94164 with salgado's help :)04:12
SteveAthanks04:12
SteveA * Bug report (mpt/joey)04:12
mptThis week Joey begins doing the bug report, thanks to him for taking over this task04:13
kikomatsubara, and bug 98614?04:13
ubotuMalone bug 98614 in malone "Edit a bug and add the same tag twice causes oops" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9861404:13
Rinchenmy pleasure04:13
RinchenBug #30602 - kiko - 2006-02-06 - Rosetta, Critical, in progress - Lots of OOPSes04:13
ubotuMalone bug 30602 in rosetta "Timeout errors in +translate" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/30602 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko)04:13
matsubarakiko: BjornT agreed to take it04:13
kikooh, misread, shutting up.04:13
Rinchenkiko, I believe you said you needed some help from salgado on this one?04:14
salgadome?04:14
kikoRinchen, nah, I have a branch and am working on it, but have been working on the new UI as well so it's been slowish04:14
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Rinchenkiko, no blockers then, correct?04:20
RinchenBug #46982 - danilo - 2006-05-27 - Rosetta, Critical, not started - Infrastructure issues - Blocked on Firefox import which should be completed next week.04:20
ubotuMalone bug 46982 in rosetta "Need to support KDE like plural forms" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46982 - Assigned to   (danilo)04:20
Rinchendanilo_, danilos - status still correct?04:20
kikoRinchen, yeah.04:20
danilo_Rinchen: yeah04:20
Rinchenthank you04:20
RinchenBug #84326 - mpt - 2007-02-09 - UI, Critical, in progress - Blocking hackergotchi work04:20
ubotuMalone bug 84326 in launchpad "/+search, /products, /people, etc obscure search field and should have their own layout" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84326 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)04:20
Rinchenmpt, how are you faring with this one?04:20
mptAs you can see, it's Fix Released :-)04:20
Rinchen:-) Just checking04:20
RinchenI'll remove that then from list. 04:20
Rinchenwho's responsible for the hackergotchi work that needs to happen next?04:20
mptsalgado is the hackergotchimeister04:20
SteveAmark has a branch landing soon on that04:20
RinchenThank you. :-)  Ensuring he's aware he can resume work that was blocked.04:20
RinchenBug #8617104:20
ubotuBug 86171 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/86171 is private04:20
Rinchenassigned to Spiv.04:20
ddaa<spiv> no news on this, because I have been bazaar sprinting :(04:20
RinchenThanks for the relay04:20
RinchenBug #9038404:20
ubotuBug 90384 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/90384 is private04:20
Rinchenassigned to Jamesh04:20
RinchenI unfortunately have no status on that one. I'll send an email to james today.04:20
RinchenI know he's been busy this week.04:20
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RinchenBug #92484 - jml - 2007-03-15 - BZR Integration, Critical, in progess04:20
ubotuMalone bug 92484 in launchpad-bazaar "Support for Branch Format 6" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92484 - Assigned to Jonathan Lange (jml)04:20
ddaa<jml> Bug 92484. Fixes for this are in three branches in BjornT's review queue. Reviews are progressing well. Once they're done will talk w/ lifeless or stub to get them landed.04:20
ddaaalso pending a review from me for the cscvs changes04:20
Rinchenexcellent, thanks04:20
RinchenBug #44 - danilo - 2005-01-10 - Rosetta, High, not started - Was blocked until about 6 March. Expecting to start 1st week in April.04:21
danilo_Rinchen: still no change on the status there04:21
Rinchenok, thank you sir04:21
RinchenBug #46 - carlos - 2005-01-10 - Rosetta, High, in progress - waiting on review. This bug was reopened.04:21
carlosRinchen: script reviewed by stuart and checked on carbon04:21
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carlosRinchen: I should validate the data later today and request a run on production on Friday or Monday04:22
carlosso we can close the bug04:22
Rinchenexcellent. Thank you for catching this and reopening the bug04:22
Rinchenlast one04:22
RinchenBug #112 - Unassigned - 2005-01-31 - Rosetta, High, not started - Promoted to high priority last September04:22
ubotuMalone bug 112 in rosetta "Search for packages per language" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11204:22
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carlosnothing done 04:23
RinchenSounds like jtv 's first project ;-) 04:23
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RinchenOk, I'll continue to monitor 112 04:23
Rinchenwe'll see what we can do to get it started in the next few weeks.04:24
RinchenThat ends the bug report04:24
SteveAthanks Rinchen 04:24
SteveA * Bug tags04:24
SteveAthere are no new propsed bug tags04:24
SteveA * Production and staging (Stuart)04:24
stubStaging system is still not having its database updated daily while Tom plays with it.04:24
stubI will be landing database patches onto the mainline and the production branches tomorrow, and pushing them out to production. I think all the pending db patches are benign enough that I shouldn't have any trouble landing them on your behalf. Downtime should be less than 10 mins.04:24
stubThere will likely be another update on Monday, but it will involve no downtime as it only involves restarting the Launchpad app servers with new code and templates.04:24
stubNothing else to report04:25
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SteveA * Launchpad 1.0 status reports04:25
SteveAanything new to report?04:25
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SteveA * Sysadmin requests04:26
SteveA604:26
SteveA504:26
SteveA404:26
SteveA304:27
SteveA204:27
SteveA104:27
SteveAthank you04:27
SteveA * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)04:27
mrevellIssues raised in yesterday's users meeting were: "tag changes are not logged in a bug's activity log" and "when marking a bug as a duplicate, its annoying to have to go back to the original bug report and add a comment that it's a duplicate".04:27
mrevellThe person that raised said he's also raise them on launchpad-users04:27
mrevellSo I post them here to alert you only.04:27
SteveAthanks mrevell 04:28
mrevellThat's all from me on that.04:28
SteveA * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell)04:28
kikowhy do you need to add a comment that it's a duplicate?04:28
mrevellI haven't produced the buzz report yet due to other work commitments. I may produce a bumper one next week, instead.04:28
SteveAkiko: discussion of that is on the mailing list04:28
SteveAok04:28
kikoI need to get to that folder ;-(04:28
SteveAmrevell: one note, zope3 is now using launchpad for bug tracking04:28
=== SteveA welcomes any zope3 developers here
ddaacheers04:29
barryw00t04:29
mrevellSteveA: Ah, cool :)04:29
radixSteveA: they've fully switched now? awesome04:29
SteveAzope304:29
matsubaramrevell: the first issue is bug 5663004:29
ubotuMalone bug 56630 in malone "Tag changes are not recorded in the activity log" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56630 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt)04:29
SteveAwe'll talk with them about other zope projects in due course04:29
mrevellmatsubara: thanks04:29
radixSteveA: sure04:30
SteveA * Three sentences04:30
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salgadoDONE: Shipit, some new pages for Steve, random fixes and code review04:30
salgadoTODO: More random fixes, code review and some remaining shipit work04:30
salgadoBLOCKED: no04:30
flacosteDONE: launchpad marketing microsite, reviews, bug fixes04:30
flacosteTODO: launchpad marketing microsite, write specs04:30
flacosteBLOCKED: no04:30
ddaa<jml> DONE: bzr 0.15rc2 porting, disallowed bad URLs on branch rego form, improved sftp auth errors, auto bug branch spec & bzr plugin.04:30
ddaa<jml> TODO: finish bzr plugin04:30
ddaa<jml> BLOCKED: Waiting on review for bzr 0.15rc2 porting branches and some discussion on rollout.04:30
statikDONE: recruiting, preparations for london sprint, reviewing db schema04:30
statikTODO: design audit table, more sprint preparations, work with customers04:30
statikBlocked: no04:30
matsubaraDONE: triage, checked oops, fixed oops bugs;04:30
ddaa<spiv> DONE: sprint: almost all bzr smart server tests passing, reviews, fixed make lint :)04:30
ddaa<spiv> TODO: smart server, reviews04:30
ddaa<spiv> BLOCKED: no04:30
matsubaraTODO: more of the same.04:30
matsubaraBLOCKED: no04:30
SteveADONE: recruitment, management, ui work04:30
SteveATODO: management, ui work04:30
SteveABLOCKED: no04:30
bacDONE: more file mgmt UI work, recruiting, prepare for London sprint, 04:30
bacTODO: prepare for London sprint, changes to bug attachment04:30
bacBLOCKED: No04:30
sinzuiDONE: bugs04:30
sinzuiTODO: Unsupported Question report, Retarget answer requests04:30
sinzuiBLOCKED: NO04:30
BjornTDONE: code reviews. landed all my reviewed branches. made it possible to04:30
barryDONE: mbox branch, bug 90118, bug 5193, mm ready for sourcecode, mm build branch04:30
BjornTfile security bugs via the normal +filebug page.04:30
BjornTTODO: code reviews. fix more bugs.04:30
BjornTBLOCKED: no04:30
barryTODO: land mm in sourcecode, land mm build branch, finish work on mm monkeypatching, spend some time on xmlrpc04:30
barryBLOCKED: no04:30
ubotuMalone bug 90118 in launchpad "Launchpad bug emails need Precedence header" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90118 - Assigned to Barry Warsaw (barry)04:30
ddaa<thumper> DONE: scanner-email branch is now past review, dbschema refactoring  is finished, worked on identifying and documenting the private branch use cases.04:30
ddaa<thumper> TODO: land scanner-email, get dbschema refactoring reviewed, and get back on track with private branches.04:30
ddaa<thumper> BLOCKED: no04:30
ubotuMalone bug 5193 in launchpad "PGP verification email should include instructions in unencrypted part" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5193 - Assigned to Barry Warsaw (barry)04:30
bigjoolsDONE: bug fixing 43115 and  48735, nothing landed yet. 43115 review in process04:30
bigjoolsTODO: land 43115, continue working with cprov on 4873504:30
bigjoolsBLOCKED: no04:30
carlosDONE: More import queue approvals, bug #46 data migration, bug #70074 review, reduced the noise of poimport script, firefox import/exports, prepared some improvements on Feisty lang packs exports, bug #96481 (vhost fixes), Finish LanguageAdministration spec implementation04:30
carlosTODO: Finish LanguageAdministration spec implementation, Firefox Support, new poimport infrastructure spec.04:30
carlosBLOCKED: No04:30
ubotuMalone bug 46 in rosetta ""special symbols" when people copy-paste text from original to translation" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46 - Assigned to Carlos Perell Marn (carlos)04:30
ubotuMalone bug 70074 in rosetta "Add direct link downloads" [Low,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70074 - Assigned to Carlos Perell Marn (carlos)04:30
ubotuMalone bug 96481 in rosetta "Virtual hosting for translation pages is broken" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96481 - Assigned to Carlos Perell Marn (carlos)04:30
danilo_DONE: fought with feisty upgrade, apparently laptop memory busted, done very little during the stretch04:30
danilo_TODO: push ooo migration script, UI fix, translation search, lots of bugfixing, licensing, helptexts04:30
danilo_BLOCKED: no04:30
ddaaDONE: small supermirror improvements, fix cscvs for feisty, start unbreaking importd test environment04:30
ddaaTODO: review jml's automatic-bug-branch-links and cscvs changes, basic importd oops support04:30
ddaaBLOCKED: spiv reply on vcs-import-sync-status04:30
stubTODO: OpenID04:31
stubDONE: Odds and sods04:31
stubBLOCKED: No04:31
SteveA<jamesh> DONE: code review, simple script success monitoring, bug imports, Bazaar sprint04:31
mrevellDONE: Visited London office, working on microsite and tour, working on general marketing things (portinari).04:31
mrevellTODO: Get microsite/tour into shape with flacoste, more general marketing stuff.04:31
mrevellBLOCKED: No04:31
SteveA<jamesh> TODO: code review, Bazaar sprint (friday), bug imports, database disconnect handling.04:31
SteveA<jamesh> BLOCKED: no04:31
mptDONE: finished and landed page layout work; bug fixes04:31
cprovDONE: bug fixing, helping julian, nu-cataclysm review04:31
cprovTODO: nu-catclysm landing 04:31
cprovBLOCKED: no04:31
mptTODO: reimplement the help panel; review specs and templates for new UI04:31
mptBLOCKED: no04:31
mthaddonTODO: prepare three sentences for next week :)04:31
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kikoDONE: fix fix fix bugs. work on rosetta blocker. some code reviews.  coordinate portinari04:32
kikoTODO: finish this rosetta work god damn it, more coordination04:32
kikoBLOCKED: amazon won't let me send people CDs04:32
SteveAkiko: enhancement for shipit?04:32
kikofucking busted crap site04:33
mptkiko, what can we do to unblock you? Send heavies around to the Amazon offices?04:33
jtvDONE: lots of setting up04:33
SteveAI want to send 45 Ubuntu CDs and 1 queens of the stone age04:33
jtvTODO: get stuck in04:33
jtvBLOCKED: until my rsync of the source tree completes04:33
kikothe raveonettes is the name of the CD04:33
ddaakiko: in that vein: BLOCKED: ordered new thinkpad, but still have no reply from the shop.04:33
kikoand I may just fuck the RIAA and send people OGGs04:33
danilo_kiko is probably just talking about the Amazon river which is flooding Sao Carlos ;)04:33
mptEh, you can blame the RIAA for many things, but not for that04:34
barrykiko: that's the spirit!  support independent musicians :)04:34
kikothat's like 3000km from here04:34
danilo_kiko: as niemeyer would say, "quite close" :)04:34
bigjoolsRIAA has jurisdiction in Brazil? :)04:34
kikompt, I'm not blaming the RIAA, but they are getting the finger when I choose to mail oggs to people04:34
SteveA"A" for America04:34
ddaakiko: what you mean like Sydney is not the capital of Australia?04:34
SteveAof which Brasil is a part04:34
barrybigjools: they have jurisdiction EVERYWHERE04:34
SteveAI think we're all done04:34
bigjoolsbarry: they *think* they do, that's the problem....04:34
mptSydney is the capital of Australia, unless you're in Australia04:35
SteveAThank you everyone04:35
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danilo_bigjools: amazon probably doesn't allow paying with cc's from Brazil (or Serbia, as far as I know)04:35
SteveAMEETING ENDS04:35
kikoddaa, it's the babe capital of australia and that's all I care about04:35
flacostemthaddon: ping04:35
mthaddonflacoste: pong04:35
ddaakiko: I thought that was Montreal...04:35
kikodanilo_, of course it does. that's ridiculous!04:35
mthaddoncan someone add me to LP devs group on Launchpad - currently can't see some LP bugs04:35
bachttp://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FrontPage  -- note "Issue Collector" points to launchpad04:35
kikomthaddon, how much will you pay me?04:35
barrybigjools: indeed04:35
flacostemthaddon: will you be able to set staging to run my marketing-microsite branch for this afternoon's review (18UTC?)04:35
mthaddonI'll owe you a beer?04:35
jtvYay!  My rsync finished04:35
kikomthaddon, hmmm. okay. give the beer to stub.04:36
danilo_kiko: it does allow for using different ship to and billing address? I don't think it does that for Serbia at least :(04:36
kikodanilo_, yeah, no problem with that.04:36
mthaddonflacoste: will try, but not sure as it'll be my first setup - will check with stub if it's a blocker and get his help04:36
mthaddonkiko: will do :)04:36
kikodone.04:37
mthaddonkiko: thx!04:37
stubmthaddon: I'll be around a bit if you need me04:37
danilo_kiko: well, I guess you are more 'World' than Serbia then (not that I am surprised)04:37
kikomthaddon, (stub is referring to the beer I think)04:37
kikodanilo_, there's room in the office for serbians...04:38
mthaddonsounds about right :)04:38
stubmthaddon: And Steve has done similar updates too04:38
mthaddonstub: ok, thanks04:38
danilo_kiko: heh, I'd consider if Brazilians kept their eating knives at home :P04:38
danilo_kiko: btw, with the nice weather coming up, I'm planning on getting a bike, so I'll bother you later so you can give me some hints what to look out for04:39
kikodanilo_, they were hungry. in so carlos there is more food04:39
kikodanilo_, sure thing. road or mountain?04:39
danilo_kiko: more asai? :)04:39
backiko are you a roadie too?04:40
danilo_kiko: mostly road, should take some mounting rides (i.e. not the track bike with thin tires)04:40
danilo_and roads in Belgrade are quite a lot like mountains04:41
kikobac, yeah, I mostly train on the road because it's easier to ride in-target and not waste time04:41
kikoI ride the mountain bikes at most three times a week04:41
bacand your racing is mtb or cross?04:41
jtvyou guys should see Holland...  flattest country in the world!04:41
kikobac, mtb mostly. I do some road races when they are convenient or special04:42
kikolike I raced the gran fondo last year which was 160km around the coasline04:42
kikocoastline04:42
kikobut I'm a better mountain biker than road biker04:42
kikoand there are not a lot of road races with long climbs here 04:42
kikoso being more of a climber than a sprinter..04:42
danilo_kiko: that's because you're so fat, dude, you must like going downhills most :P04:43
bachow is the traffic in brazil towards bikers?  04:43
kikobac, average. in-city it's not very good but we have lots of good roads around where I live04:43
kikoand the roads are wide and smooth04:44
bacnice...  04:44
kikothe trails are killer!04:44
bactx had wide road but hostile drivers.  nc has no shoulder and only moderately hostile drivers.  :(04:44
kikobut there is not one flat section in so carlos, which means it's not easy to get a rest04:44
kikobac, but tx has armstrong and that's made an impact everywhere04:45
kikoI think things have improved a lot over the past years with greater tour visibility world-wide04:45
backiko: well, he's not really from texas.  he's from austin.  :)04:45
kikointeresting what good PR can do04:45
kikoso I hear ;)04:45
mthaddonstub: ping04:50
mthaddon-> #launchpad-code04:51
bigjoolsbac: my friend in Austin would be interested to hear that :)04:52
bacoh, i think your friend would understand.04:52
bigjoolswell actually he's in round rock04:52
bigjoolsmaybe that makes all the difference :)04:52
bacdoes he work for Mr. Dell?04:52
bigjoolsno - some defence contractor04:53
bigjoolshe used to work for Nasa in Houston04:53
bigjoolsgot me loads of tours inside Mission Control :D04:53
kikobaby killer contracts04:53
bigjoolsand I played around in the astronauts' training hangar with the Shuttle mock-ups.04:54
bacbigjools: very neat04:54
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bigjoolsno kidding!04:55
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Rinchenjtv,  are you still awake? :-) 05:07
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TeTeTcan all bugs reported for products registered with canonical-salesforce be made private please?05:19
baegleI can't, for the life of me, figure out how to stop getting emails about bugs from launchpad. To the best of my knowledge, I'm not subscribed to them. What do I have to do to stop getting these emails?05:19
Hobbseebaegle: you in a team that's subscribed to them?05:20
Hobbseeor a bugs mailing list?05:20
baegleI have no idea how to tell05:20
baegleMy personal page says I'm not a member of any teams05:21
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Rinchenbaegle, what's your launchpad id?05:31
baegleBeagle05:32
salgadobaegle, https://beta.launchpad.net/~beagle/+subscribedbugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Rejected&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Released&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_contact=&field.status_upstream=&field.05:37
salgadostatus_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_cve.used=05:37
salgadooh, crap05:37
salgadobaegle, you're subscribed to https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/2381305:37
ubotuMalone bug 23813 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 "fglrx driver crashes on older ATi cards" [Medium,Fix released]  05:37
salgadobaegle, you reported it, actually05:38
kikoheh05:40
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RinchenThanks salgado 05:41
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mooeyin the beta, what 'relates' a bug to me? posting in it?05:59
kikomooey, what do you mean?05:59
salgadomooey, no. only bugs you're subscribed to or bugs that are assigned to you05:59
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mooeyright, so its a combination of +assignedbugs and +subscribedbugs, thanks06:03
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ubotuNew bug: #98650 in launchpad "[beta]  huge text size when confirmed that my email changed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9865006:11
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baeglesalgado: I submitted that bug. But it seems that the bug was reported as a dupe and linked to other bugs. I now get emails regarding bugs: 94866, 95175, 96553, 97386, 72018, 91758, 96762, 96817, 95617, 91804, 73348, 77423.....(more)06:24
kikobaegle, heh. welcome to bugville usa06:24
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baegleIf I can't resolve this, I'm going to change me email address to something that will bounce, and probably be more reluctant to report further bugs or contribute to existing ones. How can I resolve this?06:25
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salgadobaegle, so, your launchpad name is al-vazquez?06:27
baegleAh, yeah06:28
salgadoyou said it was beagle, so I thought you were https://launchpad.net/~beagle06:28
baegleIt tells me I'm Beagle(al-vazquez)06:28
baegleas well as Beagle2 (on the wiki)06:28
baeglewasn't exactly sure how to answer your question, so I gave it my best guess. =P06:29
kikobaegle, just unsubscribe from the dupe.06:30
kikobaegle, or, if you like, filter the email on X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale06:31
salgadokiko, he can't unsubscribe --he's the reporter06:31
kikosalgado, sure he can unsubscribe. reporters are just regular subscribers.06:32
salgadoreally?06:32
baegleI'm not subscribed to bug 9681706:32
ubotuMalone bug 96817 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crash (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96817 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)06:32
kikothis not bugzilla.06:32
ubotuMalone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)06:32
kikoyes, really. we designed it this way from the start.06:32
salgadobaegle, so, all you need to do is to unsubscribe from bug 9213206:32
ubotuMalone bug 92132 in firefox "Intense JavaScript crash (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92132 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)06:32
kikobaegle, just visit bug 72018 and click on unsubscribe06:32
salgadobaegle, forget about the 72018 one --the bug which is causing all this is the 9213206:33
salgadoor not?06:34
salgadokiko, does he need to unsubscribe from the dupe or from the non-dupe one?06:34
kikosalgado, we provided dupe subscribers with a shortcut 06:34
kikoso he can just click unsubscribe on the dupe master06:34
baegleyeah, wow, OK, thanks, I had no idea I had to trace the bugs back up through to unsubscribe. I was trying to go to every bug I got an email for and I couldn't unsubscribe from them. I must have missed 7201806:35
salgadobaegle, all notifications you got should mention the 72018 one06:35
kikobaegle, you can unsubscribe from the dupe "master" or from the duplicate you are directly subscribed to06:35
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baeglesalgado: I didn't actually open the emails, I just pulled the bug numbers, tried to unsubscribe and couldn't, checked my personal pages. I was pretty lost, but I also wasn't trying hard enough it would seem.06:38
baegleThank you again06:38
kikobaegle, with the new UI, we'll have X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale headers06:38
kikoso you'll be able to filter there06:38
kikoflacoste, mrevell: ping06:39
mrevellkiko: pong06:39
flacostekiko: pong06:39
kikowow06:40
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LaserJockhi kiko 06:42
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LaserJockcarlos: ping, regarding edubuntu-doc templates. No rush, but I'm not positive where to look to see if they made it.06:44
carlosLaserJock: not yet done, sorry06:44
LaserJockcarlos: np, it's just my first time dealing with .pots06:45
carlosusually we do it quite fast, but right now I'm a bit busy, that's all06:46
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ubotuNew bug: #98675 in rosetta "Lorsque je "boot" j'ai toujours pci bug #81[4943599] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9867507:10
beunothat but seems wrong on so many levels...07:17
Rinchenbeuno, only if it you change "boot" to "rosetta"  ;-) 07:23
beunohahah07:23
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kikohey LaserJock 08:09
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ubotuNew bug: #98712 in malone "Tags should only be displayed in sidebar if they are used within queried package." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9871208:55
mptGooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!09:00
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LaserJockis ^^ perhaps a dup of 59154 or 66841 ?09:03
kikoyeah, I think so09:03
LaserJockthere's a few "don't show *all* tags" kind of bugs, basically seems like it needs tag context09:04
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shirishhi all09:05
shirishanybody up?09:05
kikono09:06
shirishkiko: hi09:06
kikowhat's up09:06
shirishkiko: I'm a newbie to launchpad, how do I write a bug, I want a newer driver from x.org, is this a valid bug request or not?09:07
kikoit is a valid bug request, though it may have been filed already. start at launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug09:08
shirishkiko: I'm there now, I searched but there doesn't seem to be a bug request for newer version of the pre-release driver & xorg.core so how should I go about filing it, it's a feature/functionality request09:13
kikosure thing, go ahead09:13
shirishkiko: good thing I tried up couple of more keywords & it seems somebody has already filed a bug report asking for this feature. Is there a way to vote for it?09:17
shirishkiko: this is the feature request/bug-report https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting/+bug/9021309:17
ubotuMalone bug 90213 in xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting "xf86-video-intel 1.9.91 (2.0 RC1) is out, and would be nice to have as the source for the xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  09:17
kikoshirish, good job09:18
shirishkiko: I didn't file tht, somebody already had filed it & he has done a good job of it :)09:18
kikoah, cool09:19
kikoshirish, there's no "me too" feature right now, but subscribe to the bug and it will be noticed09:20
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Rinchensadly, my vote doesn't count.09:21
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kikovoting is really controversial09:21
kikoafter years of experience with it in bugzilla09:21
kikoI think voting is close to useless unless done in a way which doesn't encourage whining09:21
beunokiko: no comment, just a "+1 vote"?09:22
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kikothe problem with voting is that it's a counter that people think should influence the direction of the project09:22
beuno:D  should of read a lil but more, hehe09:22
kikobut that's not necessarily true09:23
kikofor instance, you might have 1000 users voting for something which leadership decides not to do09:23
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beunokiko: but wouldn't that give the devs an *idea* of what's being more annoying to users?09:23
kikoand then people come in and say "this bug has 21323209:23
kikovotes!"09:23
kikobeuno, subscriptions already give us that.09:23
kikoand duplicates.09:23
LaserJockand forums ;-)09:23
RinchenI think when properly implemented for bugs, and possible features, it does express the popularity of a particular entry. 09:23
beunowell, you can always ignore it, at least you know about it...09:23
kikoI think a "me too" is interesting because it gives us a better idea of what users /are affected/ by the bug.09:24
kikobeuno, it's hard to ignore fervorous bugmail, believe me09:24
beunoLaserJock: don't get me started on launchpad <> forum integration cause I won't stop  :p09:24
Rinchenkiko, for the purposes of my previous email, a "me too" would work :-) 09:24
Rinchenbeuno, there's integr......er.... *bites tounge*09:25
beunowhat what what what?09:25
kikoa me too is different from voting in that it doesn't contribute to a count09:25
shirishkiko, Rinchen: by mistake I also subscribed to another bug, how do I remove it, only through e-mail or is there another way?09:26
kikoit's just a way of having you register what bugs affect you09:26
kikoshirish, click on Unsubscribe09:26
Rinchenbeuno, that was a joke ;-)   I'm powered by caffeine and no sleep today :-)09:26
Rinchenshirish, find the bug in question and there will be an unsubscribe action09:26
beunoRinchen: I've been hurt before   :(09:27
shirishGot tht guys, it did the subscribe thing but didn't refresh the options, when I manually refreshed the page, the option was there & I unsubscribed, thnx guys09:27
beunoI even coded part of what was needed to get the forums displaying bug info, but I never got an answer from ryan...09:27
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RinchenI know the lead folks from UDS MTV, that's about it.09:28
shirishI'm very much affected by the bug I subscribed to, in fact made a longish post at ubuntuforums, now the only thing left is to give this link so people can subscribe to tht bug also in the hopes tht people affected with tht bug will make something happen09:28
Rinchenbeuno, how's UWN coming along for this week?09:28
beunoRinchen: a bit behind other weeks, but nothing that won't be solved in the next days  :D09:29
shirishguys, shouldn't there be a subscription page or something, which tells what bugs u have subscribed to?09:30
beunoshirish: check your launchpad profile09:30
kikoshirish, you mean launchpad.net/~shirish/+subscribedbugs ?09:30
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ubotuNew bug: #98732 in launchpad "Uploading an icon without file extension raises AssertionError" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9873209:46
carlosgood night!09:46
LaserJockgood night carlos 09:46
shirishkiko, beuno, thnx for your suggestion09:47
carlosLaserJock: the import queue is a bit busy right now, handlind post beta files09:47
shirishmy work here is complete, added a comment to the bug, subscribed to the bug 09:47
carlosLaserJock: so edubuntu templates will take a bit more to be imported...09:47
kikocool09:47
shirishcan anybody look at my comment & see if I've missed out anything or everything is cool09:47
carloscheers09:47
shirishit's here at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting/+bug/90213/comments/409:48
beunoshirish: welcome, g'night09:48
ubotuMalone bug 90213 in xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting "xf86-video-intel 1.9.91 (2.0 RC1) is out, and would be nice to have as the source for the xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting package" [Undecided,Needs info]  09:48
shirishone more thing guys, ubotu says the bug needs more info. what info. is required, can anybody help me?09:49
Lumiereubotu is a bot09:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:49
LaserJocklol09:49
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Lumiereanyways... it sees bug and a number09:50
Lumiereand loads the LP data for the bug09:50
Lumiereand displays it09:50
Lumiereit will be reviewed at some point and the status updated09:50
Lumiereor a comment added asking for more info09:50
shirishLumiere: I know tht, I was telling if somebody can help me find this need info. thing on the bug-report, I'll be happy to give as much as possible so tht the feature-request is done09:50
Lumiereshirish: the person who marked it as needing info will say if/what you need to add09:52
shirishLumiere: will tht request come to my e-mail or where?09:52
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Lumiereheh09:54
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Lumiereshirish: it would be a comment to the bug09:58
Lumierewhich should be emailed to the address you registered for LP with09:58
shirishok thnx, would have to whitelist it then, it would come at @launchpad.com right?09:59
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LumiereI would whitelist *@bugs.launchpad.net and bounces@canonical.com09:59
Lumiereif you can do some regex in whitelists10:00
shirishok cool, thnx doing it right now10:00
Lumiereall the ?@ for bugs.launchpad10:00
Lumiereare the bug number10:00
shirishI'm using gmail so don't know if regex is allowed there or not10:01
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shirishI just made 2 filters tht should cover it 10:04
Lumiereoff to a folder?10:06
shirishin gmail, you can create fiter just a label, starring so easy to see :)10:06
Lumiereyea10:08
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shirishand the first comment has already come in, time to test it :)10:08
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jeni am trying to confirm my openpgp key. i don't know how to decrypt the email i have received10:13
jensorry if this is the wrong place to ask10:13
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LaserJockjen: so you have a gpg key? and have decrypted anything with it before?10:15
jenjust got the key this evening.  all i have done is put my fingerprint in and received an email10:15
LaserJockjen: you should be able to run gpg --decrypt on the contents of the email10:17
LaserJockjen: btw, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto is very helpful10:18
jensorry for being dense but do you mean in the terminal?  if so then do I copy the email and paste it after the gpg --decrypt?10:18
LaserJockjen: yes, in a terminal, but copy and past it into a file and then run gpg --decrypt <file> where <file> is the name of the file10:20
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jenhmm, did that but it doesn't like my passphrase.  is it the whole of what is written on launchpad?10:24
jenscrap that, just realised what the passphrase was and i have the email decrypted.  Thank you so much for your help10:27
LaserJockjen: no problem10:28
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ubotuNew bug: #98767 in launchpad "Upstream alioth bug url incorrectly detected as Sourceforge url" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9876711:45
ubotuNew bug: #98771 in launchpad "Fill in bottom pixel of person icon" [Low,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9877111:51
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