[12:43] <mpt> danilos, if you're still awake, could you reply to Sverin Lemaignan on launchpad-users@ and to Jamoney jamin on rosetta-users@? 
[12:44] <Kmos> when it's the next user meeting ?
[12:45] <pochu> does LP already give karma for package uploads?
[12:45] <ajmitch> pochu: no
[12:46] <pochu> then I'll file a bug, if it's not already filed :)
[12:54] <ajmitch> I know there's one already somewhere
[12:54] <pochu> done, bug 97623 :)
[12:54] <ubotu> Malone bug 97623 in launchpad "Launchpad should give karma for package uploads" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97623
[12:54] <pochu> ajmitch: I couldn't find it
[12:55] <ajmitch> bug 54596
[12:55] <ubotu> Malone bug 54596 in soyuz "karma for uploads" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54596
[12:56] <pochu> hehe, I was searching in launchpad :-/
[12:56] <pochu> I'll mark it as a dup :)
[12:56] <ajmitch> wise choice :)
[12:59] <pochu> assigned to cprov-afk :)
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #97623 in launchpad "Launchpad should give karma for package uploads (dup-of: 54596)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97623
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #97633 in malone "Assigning a bug to myself produces misleading "You have been subscribed" e-mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97633
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #97648 in malone "Two bug comments appear in the wrong order" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97648
[02:56] <kiko> Hobbsee!
[02:56] <kiko> my favorite beta critique-r
[03:04] <radix> hey why don't you like _me_
[03:04] <radix> I complain about beta all the time
[03:05] <ajmitch> ah, a Hobbsee 
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #97656 in launchpad "please respond to http://bugs.launchpad.net/(\d+)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97656
[03:29] <Hobbsee> heya kiko!
[04:03] <magicfab> kiko
[05:14] <bdmurray> lifeless: ping
[05:15] <lifeless> ongp
[05:17] <bdmurray> Do you if it is possible to mark a bug as a duplicate with the e-mail interface to Malone?
[05:20] <kiko> radix, I like you too. kinda. but you're not my favorite
[05:23] <lifeless> bdmurray: hmm, help.lp.net query time...
[05:23] <bdmurray> lifeless: I found the bug
[05:23] <bdmurray> about that feature not exisiting
[05:23] <lifeless> https://help.launchpad.net/UsingMaloneEmail
[05:23] <lifeless> argle
[05:24] <lifeless> I know know about this ;)
[05:24] <kiko> spiv_! time for some make lint love?
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #97691 in launchpad "Location bar list is vertical in Internet Explorer 6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97691
[05:35] <spiv> kiko-zzz: the breakage was trivial.
[05:35] <spiv> So I fixed it :)
[05:44] <thumper> spiv: has it landed/
[05:44] <thumper> ?
[05:45] <spiv> thumper: it's "Now Playing..." on PQM.
[05:46] <thumper> spiv: yay
[05:47] <thumper> it means I can avoid getting all those reviewer responses from flacoste
[05:47] <thumper> that say "this import is not used"
[05:48] <spiv> Yep.
[06:40] <spiv> thumper: landed
[06:43] <thumper> spiv: w00t
[06:47] <spiv> thumper: not that ":!pyflakes %" is hard to type in vim...
[06:47] <thumper> spiv: yeah I guess, but "make lint" is easy on the command line :)
[06:48] <thumper> spiv: how does the make rule determine what to check?
[06:48] <thumper> is it just non-committed files?
[06:48] <spiv> added or modified files.
[09:36] <carlos> morning
[09:42] <mrevell> morning carlos
[09:47] <carlos> mrevell: hey, how's going?
[09:47] <mrevell> carlos: not bad thanks, you?
[09:48] <carlos> fine, is still difficult for me to wake up in time after the time change, but fine ;-)
[10:45] <schwuk> mrevell: ping
[10:45] <mrevell> schwuk: pong
[10:45] <schwuk> who runs the launchpad-users list?
[10:46] <mrevell> schwuk: Me, Steve A and kiko
[10:46] <schwuk> would it be possbile to get a prefix put on the subject? makes it much easier to automatically filter :)
[10:46] <mrevell> schwuk: Ooooh :)
[10:46] <mrevell> schwuk: There are lots of people who hate prefixes on subject lines
[10:46] <mrevell> schwuk: me included :)
[10:46] <schwuk> Well, you can't help being wrong! :)
[10:46] <mrevell> schwuk: What mail software are you using?
[10:46] <mrevell> ha
[10:47] <mrevell> Oh, damn, I've got to to get to the dentist. I'll be back in 20 mins
[10:47] <schwuk> I use procmail for my filtering. I know I can get it to file the l-u list as it is, but prefixes are easier
[10:47] <mrevell> schwuk: I suppose we could put it to a vote.
[10:48] <mooey> hum. i'm getting some duplicate bug mail from launchpad, some arrived this morning that i also had two days ago (same bug replies)
[10:59] <bigjools> schwuk: In the mail headers there will be many List-xxx headers and a Sender: header.  Filter on one of those.
[10:59] <bigjools> I use procmail also
[11:00] <schwuk> bigjools: that's what I've used, I was just being lazy :)
[11:00] <bigjools> yes, you are :)
[11:00] <popey> er [foo]  in subject line
[11:01] <pochu> though I don't filter LP-users, since it's volume is low :)
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #96573 in edgy-backports "/enigmaenigma package is broken in Kubuntu 6.10 backports" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96573
[12:37] <kiko-zzz> if you want to see the new fully-clickable tabs in action, just shift-reload a launchpad page
[12:37] <kiko-zzz> yay
[12:40] <cprov> good morning !
[12:40] <kiko-afk> hey cprov ole man
[12:41] <cprov> kiko-afk: hi there !
[12:41] <kiko-afk> how's it going?
[12:42] <cprov> kiko-afk: well, spending a lot of time to fix tests in nascentupload-cataclysm
[12:43] <pochu> kiko-afk: cool, looks good :)
[12:43] <kiko-afk> cprov, do you need any help?
[12:43] <kiko-afk> pochu, yeah, finally fixed that bong highlighting thing
[12:44] <cprov> kiko-afk: i have done some changes in the NU API, like not passing logger & fsroot and it just broke-the-system.
[12:44] <cprov> kiko-afk: yes, sure, if you have time this afternoon.
[12:44] <kiko-afk> cprov, sure. It's not easy to not supply logger
[12:45] <kiko-afk> are you sure that's a good idea?
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #98544 in malone "Keyboard Shortcuts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98544
[12:46] <cprov> kiko-afk: It looked like a good thing, but ended up creating unrelated problems, I'm afraid
[12:47] <cprov> kiko-afk: but maybe I'm just getting it wrong in my code. We will see.
[12:47] <kiko-afk> cprov, it's not tests that are broken but the code that's broken right?
[12:47] <kiko-afk> the problems can't be all unrelated. come in the afternoon and we'll sort it out.
[12:48] <cprov> kiko-afk: indeed. Ok, I will. Thanks 
[01:18] <sadleder> is any of the launchpad admins in here?
[01:26] <SteveA> ddaa: "kiko-afk and SteveA are launchpad admins" would be a better answer
[01:27] <SteveA> as it requires that someone know that kiko-afk is an admin before your comment makes any sense
[01:27] <ddaa> SteveA: right
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #98559 in malone "Firefox does not open media without totem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98559
[01:49] <john> Just a small comment. The gnome bugzilla is hideous and very unfriendly(i was reporting a bug). Working with launchpad is much better. The gnome people should do something about this in my opinion.
[01:50] <mooey> it could have been worse, you might have had to report a bug in a stock bugzilla :p
[01:53] <john> Yeah. I have some prior experience in that. And i simply didn't report the bug. However, now i strongly believe that this entire process should be as simple as possible and as pleasant as possible for the user if you want the users to actually report the bugs instead of just giving up on the whole thing.
[01:53] <mooey> john: absolutly. just report bugs in launchpad, if needed somebody will report it upstream for you
[01:54] <mooey> which also has the helpful side effect that a friendly launchpad user might scratch your itch :-)
[01:54] <john> It was a bug against gnome-utils. So i asked in a few channels and they said that i should do it on the gnome bugzilla. I reported another bug in launchpad for a different issue.
[01:56] <mooey> if you think that ubuntu can do something about it, launchpad is probably the best place
[02:03] <john> Well, i am a big fan of distros working with upstream since users will typically use gnome through the distro itself and not use it directly. Anyway, i can understand how this is troublesome. Thank you.
[02:05] <mooey> ubuntu works pretty well with upstream
[02:06] <mooey> infact in a few packages in launchpad, mainly gnome-related items, upstream developers themselves will triage the bugs
[02:07] <mooey> s/will/do/ - i mean, some upstream developers monitor their packages in launchpad, so we don't tend to need to report bugs upstream for those
[02:11] <john> So just a question. How come i can't report again gnome-utils? Or did i miss something?
[02:12] <ddaa> john: let me get this straight, you reported a bug for gnome-utils in the gnome bugzilla, and you want to report the same bug on ubuntu?
[02:14] <john> ddaa: no no. First i went to launchpad to report it. But then everything was grayed out. So i asked where do i report that, and they said gnome bugzilla.
[02:14] <ddaa> okay
[02:14] <ddaa> here's a 1 minute crash course on doing what you really mean
[02:14] <ddaa> 1. find the page for gnome-utils in ubuntu feisty
[02:14] <gnomefreak> john: if you cant find the package to file against use ubuntu and add your bugzilla bug link to the report after telling us about it
[02:15] <ddaa> 2. file a bug there
[02:15] <ddaa> 3. then tell launchpad that the bugs also occurs upstream
[02:16] <ddaa> and give it the url of the bugzilla bug
[02:16] <ddaa> john: the "find the package in the right distro release" bit is a bit counter intuitive at first, I'm sorry about this
[02:16] <ddaa> john: makes sense?
[02:17] <john> ddaa: I went to the page, and everything was grayed out. Hold on. Let me try that again.
[02:18] <ddaa> mh
[02:18] <ddaa> I see
[02:19] <john> ddaa: So i am now here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+package/gnome-utils and everything is grayed out.
[02:19] <ddaa> I see
[02:19] <john> ddaa: So i try to choose the proper one which is the i386
[02:19] <ddaa> got it
[02:19] <ddaa> https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/gnome-utils
[02:19] <ddaa> OMG is that counter-intuitive!
[02:21] <john> ddaa: I can't access that page
[02:21] <gnomefreak> ddaa: your link is page not found
[02:21] <gnomefreak> his link the tabs are greyed :(
[02:21] <ddaa> meh?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> file it against ubuntu and someone will change it ;)
[02:21] <ddaa> https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/ works for me!
[02:21] <gnomefreak> ddaa: OOPS-453BA24
[02:21] <ddaa> https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+filebug
[02:22] <ddaa> THAT should work damnit
[02:22] <gnomefreak> OOPS-453BC15  
[02:22] <ddaa> !!!
[02:22] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:22] <gnomefreak> you know what
[02:22] <gnomefreak> its not grabbing full url :(
[02:22] <gnomefreak> damn irssi
[02:22] <gnomefreak> works for me now
[02:23] <ddaa> gnomefreak: so please file a bug on your irc client or terminal emulator...
[02:23] <ddaa> grrrr....
[02:23] <gnomefreak> john: remove the beta part of link if your not using beta LP and you should beable to get there
[02:23] <ddaa> sorry, the file bug page is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+filebug
[02:24] <ddaa> john: and please file a bug about it being way too hard to file a bug on an ubuntu package...
[02:24] <john> ddaa: For me, when i try to login. it says restricted site. Ah ok....where do i do that?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> bbl i have to think :(
[02:25] <john> gnomefreak: Ok. It worked for that URL.
[02:25] <gnomefreak> john: use the link he gave you without beta in it
[02:25] <ddaa> workrave
[02:26] <john> gnomefreak: I did. And it worked.
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #98583 in launchpad "link to complicated bug form illegible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98583
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #98585 in launchpad "No tag list on bug edit form" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98585
[02:45] <totalwormage> ls
[02:45] <totalwormage> >_<
[02:45] <totalwormage> hi all
[02:45] <totalwormage> i would like to report a small typo in launchpad :] 
[02:46] <totalwormage> it's the url on this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+package/ktorrent
[02:55] <Hobbsee> heya kiko-afk!!!
[02:56] <Flux--> hay
[02:56] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: what'd you want me for earlier?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> the link is wrong on that page too
[03:09] <mooey> totalwormage: where is the typo
[03:11] <Fujitsu> mooey: I don't think i. is a valid domain name.
[03:12] <totalwormage> mooey: it's the link, the url it says 'http:/i/' instead of 'http://' :] 
[03:12] <mooey> Fujitsu: so it isn't :-)
[03:12] <mooey> totalwormage: if you'd like to report a bug, https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+filebug is the best place to file it
[03:12] <mooey> erk
[03:12] <mooey> remove beta from the url >_>
[03:14] <totalwormage> :]  so i can file bugs in launchpad on launchpad? :] 
[03:15] <mooey> totalwormage: you can, yea, but the bug isn't in launchpad, that url comes from the package itself
[03:16] <totalwormage> ahhh, so i see :] 
[03:16] <totalwormage> great! :p
[03:16] <totalwormage> thanks
[03:17] <mooey> thanks for reporting it, totalwormage 
[03:17] <totalwormage> no problem :p
[03:22] <Flux--> hello, I need help with launchpad I want to star translation team for a new language, I send email to rosetta@launchpad.net but I have no answer
[03:23] <matsubara> carlos, danilo_ ^
[03:23] <carlos> Flux--: I have it in my TODO list, don't worry. Will try to get it done later today
[03:23] <danilo_> Flux--: rosetta@launchpad.net is receiving a lot of email, and I am a bit behind on it
[03:25] <Flux--> danilo_, thank you, i will wait :D
[03:30] <bersace> Hi all
[03:30] <bersace> I want to rename gnomescan to gnome-scan
[03:30] <bersace> http://launchpad.net/gnomescan
[03:30] <bersace> but i can't
[03:30] <bersace> how to ?
[03:30] <bersace> i also want to change the svn source
[03:30] <bersace> i migrate gnome-scan from gna to gnome.org
[03:30] <bersace> how to ?
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #98606 in rosetta "german translation bug in pacman description" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98606
[03:32] <bersace> sadleder: ;)
[03:38] <Kuhrscher> Hi, how long does it usually take atm untill a user upload of of po file is imported to Rosetta?
[03:38] <Kuhrscher> Or do they have to be approved manually?
[03:39] <danilo_> Kuhrscher: if the user is authorised translator, then it needs no automatic approval, and the time it takes depends on whether there are other things waiting to be imported
[03:39] <danilo_> Kuhrscher: when there aren't other things waiting to be imported, it takes between 10 and 20 minutes
[03:40] <Kuhrscher> I uploaded some desktop-* files a few days ago...
[03:40] <danilo_> s/automatic approval/manual approval/
[03:41] <danilo_> Kuhrscher: there are around 21000 files to be imported at the moment, and we are processing files from March 26th at the moment
[03:41] <Kuhrscher> As a member of a translation team I am an authorized translator, right?
[03:41] <Kuhrscher> Ahh, ok. So I will keep waiting ;-)
[03:42] <danilo_> Kuhrscher: we have plans to improve this by prioritizing manual uploads (most of these are from Ubuntu packages)
[03:43] <Kuhrscher> That would be great...
[03:55] <kiko-afk> Hobbsee, it was just to say hi!
[03:55] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: :D
[03:55] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: heya!
[03:55] <kiko-afk> I fixed the tabs yesterday
[03:55] <kiko-afk> did you see that?
[03:56] <Rinchen> kiko-afk, I did ;-) 
[03:56] <kiko-afk> Rinchen, I hear you see everything, though.
[03:57] <Rinchen> All-seeing, mostly, All-knowing - far from it. :-) 
[03:57] <kiko-afk> SteveA, should we have this meeting thing?
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #98614 in malone "Edit a bug and add the same tag twice causes oops" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98614
[04:00] <SteveA> it is indeed
[04:00] <SteveA> that tim
[04:00] <SteveA> e
[04:00] <SteveA> again
[04:01] <SteveA> Welcome
[04:01] <SteveA> to the weekly Launchpad development meeting
[04:01] <SteveA> for the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating about launchpad development
[04:01] <SteveA> who is here today?
[04:01] <mrevell> me
[04:01] <cprov> me
[04:01] <jtv> me
[04:01] <barry> me
[04:01] <BjornT> me
[04:01] <salgado> me
[04:01] <sinzui> me?
[04:01] <kiko> me
[04:01] <ddaa> here
[04:01] <ddaa> acting envoy for jml, thumper and spiv
[04:01] <bac> me
[04:01] <flacoste> me
[04:01] <Rinchen> me
[04:01] <matsubara> me
[04:01] <bigjools> me
[04:01] <mthaddon> me
[04:01] <danilo_> me
[04:01] <totalwormage> me
[04:02] <carlos> me
[04:02] <mpt> me
[04:02] <statik> me
[04:02] <SteveA> hi totalwormage.  welcome to the meeting.
[04:02] <kiko> what a cool nick totalwormage 
[04:03] <carlos> jtv: ping
[04:03] <jtv> carlos: pong
[04:04] <carlos> oh, sorry, I didn't see your 'me' line
[04:04] <carlos> :-P
[04:04] <totalwormage> kiko: thanks
[04:04] <jtv> carlos: too fast for ya
[04:04] <kiko> stealth jtv
[04:04] <SteveA> today's agenda:
[04:04] <carlos> :-P
[04:04] <SteveA> == Agenda ==
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Roll call
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Agenda
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Next meeting
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Activity reports
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Actions from last meeting
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Bug report (mpt/joey)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Bug tags
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Production and staging (Stuart)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Launchpad 1.0 status reports
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Sysadmin requests
[04:04] <SteveA> ----
[04:04] <SteveA>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * (other items)
[04:04] <SteveA> ----
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Three sentences
[04:04] <SteveA> 
[04:04] <SteveA> also, welcome to jtv 
[04:04] <SteveA> jamesh sends apologies, he can't make the meeting today
[04:04] <SteveA> thanks for acting as lp-bzr team envoy again, ddaa
[04:05] <SteveA> 
[04:05] <SteveA> next meeting: same time next week
[04:05] <jtv> SteveA: thx
[04:05] <SteveA> jtv is jeroen.  he's working on the translations parts of launchpad, along with carlos and danilo_ 
[04:05] <SteveA>  * Activity reports
[04:05] <SteveA> I'm not up to date again
[04:05] <danilo_> behind again
[04:05] <stub> me
[04:05] <flacoste> up to date
[04:05] <bigjools> up to date
[04:05] <stub> up to date
[04:05] <bac> up to date
[04:06] <BjornT> up to date
[04:06] <barry> up to date
[04:06] <salgado> up to date
[04:06] <kiko> I sent some but missed many
[04:06] <jtv> up to date
[04:06] <matsubara> up to date
[04:06] <sinzui> up to date
[04:06] <ddaa> up to date
 Not up to date, at Sydney Bazaar sprint.
 Up to date
[04:06] <ddaa> spiv did not mention it, but does not appear up do date
[04:06] <mthaddon> up to date
[04:06] <carlos> I owe two weeks of reports and started again this Monday
[04:06] <statik> up to date
[04:06] <cprov> not up to date, started again yesterday
[04:06] <mrevell> I'm behind on a few days - sorry, will catch up after meeting.
[04:06] <SteveA> 
[04:06] <SteveA>  == People who were lax with activity reporting last week ==
[04:06] <SteveA>  * carlos
[04:06] <SteveA>  * cprov
[04:06] <SteveA>  * danilos
[04:06] <kiko> but in my defense I fixed the tabs.
[04:06] <SteveA>  * kiko
[04:06] <mpt> up to date
[04:06] <SteveA>  * spiv
[04:06] <SteveA>  * SteveA
[04:06] <SteveA> 
[04:06] <SteveA> no improvers this week
[04:07] <SteveA> well done to all those who are up to date
[04:07] <SteveA>  * Actions from last meeting
[04:07] <SteveA>  * '''stub''' to ask Tom to attend these meetings
[04:07] <stub> did
[04:07] <SteveA> mthaddon: hi
[04:07] <mthaddon> here :)
[04:07] <SteveA> welcome mthaddon 
[04:07] <mthaddon> SteveA: thx
[04:07] <SteveA>  * '''jamesh''', '''Rinchen''' and '''SteveA''' to discuss:
[04:07] <SteveA>   * getting a database interruption to cause a Retry in the app servers
[04:08] <SteveA> we had a brief irc discussion iirc
[04:08] <SteveA> I don't know how this work is prioritised in jamesh's todo list though
[04:08] <SteveA>   * new code baseline for scripts
[04:08] <SteveA> stub: you're rolling this out tomorrow, right?
[04:08] <stub> Yes
[04:08] <ddaa> Roll baby roll!
[04:09] <SteveA>  * '''mrevell''' to update the course of action in bug 89183
[04:09] <ubotu> Malone bug 89183 in launchpad "beta URLs don't redirect to production if person is not in beta team" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89183
[04:09] <SteveA>  * '''mrevell''' and '''Rinchen''' to see if someone wants to fix bug 89183 on FiF
[04:09] <Rinchen> no takers
[04:10] <SteveA> no problem
[04:10] <mrevell> SteveA: Bug updated as requested
[04:10] <SteveA> we'll look at getting someone to do it next week
[04:10] <Rinchen> I'll double check to ensure that bug is on the priority list
[04:10] <Rinchen> for FiF
[04:10] <SteveA>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[04:10] <matsubara> Today's oops report is about bugs 94164, 97440 and 98614
[04:10] <ubotu> Malone bug 94164 in launchpad "Adding a team with only deactivated members to another team crashes." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94164
[04:10] <ubotu> Malone bug 97440 in launchpad "Librarian is not thread safe" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97440 - Assigned to Stuart Bishop (stub)
[04:10] <ubotu> Malone bug 98614 in malone "Edit a bug and add the same tag twice causes oops" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98614
[04:11] <matsubara> salgado, thanks for remembering me of bug 94164. Would you take it? :)
[04:11] <matsubara> Who should work on bug 97440? spiv?
[04:11] <matsubara> oh, stub took it already
[04:11] <matsubara> BjornT, can you take 98614?
[04:11] <kiko> and it was just landed
[04:11] <salgado> matsubara, probably not. I already have plenty of stuff for the upcoming weeks
[04:11] <kiko> I heard it on the radio
[04:11] <kiko> matsubara, there's this disturbing oops crash bug 98614
[04:11] <BjornT> matsubara: sure
[04:12] <matsubara> SteveA: I'm done. here. I can take care of 94164 with salgado's help :)
[04:12] <SteveA> thanks
[04:12] <SteveA>  * Bug report (mpt/joey)
[04:13] <mpt> This week Joey begins doing the bug report, thanks to him for taking over this task
[04:13] <kiko> matsubara, and bug 98614?
[04:13] <ubotu> Malone bug 98614 in malone "Edit a bug and add the same tag twice causes oops" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98614
[04:13] <Rinchen> my pleasure
[04:13] <Rinchen> Bug #30602 - kiko - 2006-02-06 - Rosetta, Critical, in progress - Lots of OOPSes
[04:13] <ubotu> Malone bug 30602 in rosetta "Timeout errors in +translate" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/30602 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko)
[04:13] <matsubara> kiko: BjornT agreed to take it
[04:13] <kiko> oh, misread, shutting up.
[04:14] <Rinchen> kiko, I believe you said you needed some help from salgado on this one?
[04:14] <salgado> me?
[04:14] <kiko> Rinchen, nah, I have a branch and am working on it, but have been working on the new UI as well so it's been slowish
[04:20] <Rinchen> kiko, no blockers then, correct?
[04:20] <Rinchen> Bug #46982 - danilo - 2006-05-27 - Rosetta, Critical, not started - Infrastructure issues - Blocked on Firefox import which should be completed next week.
[04:20] <ubotu> Malone bug 46982 in rosetta "Need to support KDE like plural forms" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46982 - Assigned to   (danilo)
[04:20] <Rinchen> danilo_, danilos - status still correct?
[04:20] <kiko> Rinchen, yeah.
[04:20] <danilo_> Rinchen: yeah
[04:20] <Rinchen> thank you
[04:20] <Rinchen> Bug #84326 - mpt - 2007-02-09 - UI, Critical, in progress - Blocking hackergotchi work
[04:20] <ubotu> Malone bug 84326 in launchpad "/+search, /products, /people, etc obscure search field and should have their own layout" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84326 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
[04:20] <Rinchen> mpt, how are you faring with this one?
[04:20] <mpt> As you can see, it's Fix Released :-)
[04:20] <Rinchen> :-) Just checking
[04:20] <Rinchen> I'll remove that then from list. 
[04:20] <Rinchen> who's responsible for the hackergotchi work that needs to happen next?
[04:20] <mpt> salgado is the hackergotchimeister
[04:20] <SteveA> mark has a branch landing soon on that
[04:20] <Rinchen> Thank you. :-)  Ensuring he's aware he can resume work that was blocked.
[04:20] <Rinchen> Bug #86171
[04:20] <ubotu> Bug 86171 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/86171 is private
[04:20] <Rinchen> assigned to Spiv.
 no news on this, because I have been bazaar sprinting :(
[04:20] <Rinchen> Thanks for the relay
[04:20] <Rinchen> Bug #90384
[04:20] <ubotu> Bug 90384 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/90384 is private
[04:20] <Rinchen> assigned to Jamesh
[04:20] <Rinchen> I unfortunately have no status on that one. I'll send an email to james today.
[04:20] <Rinchen> I know he's been busy this week.
[04:20] <Rinchen> 4 left
[04:20] <Rinchen> Bug #92484 - jml - 2007-03-15 - BZR Integration, Critical, in progess
[04:20] <ubotu> Malone bug 92484 in launchpad-bazaar "Support for Branch Format 6" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92484 - Assigned to Jonathan Lange (jml)
 Bug 92484. Fixes for this are in three branches in BjornT's review queue. Reviews are progressing well. Once they're done will talk w/ lifeless or stub to get them landed.
[04:20] <ddaa> also pending a review from me for the cscvs changes
[04:20] <Rinchen> excellent, thanks
[04:21] <Rinchen> Bug #44 - danilo - 2005-01-10 - Rosetta, High, not started - Was blocked until about 6 March. Expecting to start 1st week in April.
[04:21] <danilo_> Rinchen: still no change on the status there
[04:21] <Rinchen> ok, thank you sir
[04:21] <Rinchen> Bug #46 - carlos - 2005-01-10 - Rosetta, High, in progress - waiting on review. This bug was reopened.
[04:21] <carlos> Rinchen: script reviewed by stuart and checked on carbon
[04:22] <carlos> Rinchen: I should validate the data later today and request a run on production on Friday or Monday
[04:22] <carlos> so we can close the bug
[04:22] <Rinchen> excellent. Thank you for catching this and reopening the bug
[04:22] <Rinchen> last one
[04:22] <Rinchen> Bug #112 - Unassigned - 2005-01-31 - Rosetta, High, not started - Promoted to high priority last September
[04:22] <ubotu> Malone bug 112 in rosetta "Search for packages per language" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112
[04:23] <carlos> nothing done 
[04:23] <Rinchen> Sounds like jtv 's first project ;-) 
[04:23] <Rinchen> Ok, I'll continue to monitor 112 
[04:24] <Rinchen> we'll see what we can do to get it started in the next few weeks.
[04:24] <Rinchen> That ends the bug report
[04:24] <SteveA> thanks Rinchen 
[04:24] <SteveA>  * Bug tags
[04:24] <SteveA> there are no new propsed bug tags
[04:24] <SteveA>  * Production and staging (Stuart)
[04:24] <stub> Staging system is still not having its database updated daily while Tom plays with it.
[04:24] <stub> I will be landing database patches onto the mainline and the production branches tomorrow, and pushing them out to production. I think all the pending db patches are benign enough that I shouldn't have any trouble landing them on your behalf. Downtime should be less than 10 mins.
[04:24] <stub> There will likely be another update on Monday, but it will involve no downtime as it only involves restarting the Launchpad app servers with new code and templates.
[04:25] <stub> Nothing else to report
[04:25] <SteveA>  * Launchpad 1.0 status reports
[04:25] <SteveA> anything new to report?
[04:26] <SteveA>  * Sysadmin requests
[04:26] <SteveA> 6
[04:26] <SteveA> 5
[04:26] <SteveA> 4
[04:27] <SteveA> 3
[04:27] <SteveA> 2
[04:27] <SteveA> 1
[04:27] <SteveA> thank you
[04:27] <SteveA>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[04:27] <mrevell> Issues raised in yesterday's users meeting were: "tag changes are not logged in a bug's activity log" and "when marking a bug as a duplicate, its annoying to have to go back to the original bug report and add a comment that it's a duplicate".
[04:27] <mrevell> The person that raised said he's also raise them on launchpad-users
[04:27] <mrevell> So I post them here to alert you only.
[04:28] <SteveA> thanks mrevell 
[04:28] <mrevell> That's all from me on that.
[04:28] <SteveA>  * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell)
[04:28] <kiko> why do you need to add a comment that it's a duplicate?
[04:28] <mrevell> I haven't produced the buzz report yet due to other work commitments. I may produce a bumper one next week, instead.
[04:28] <SteveA> kiko: discussion of that is on the mailing list
[04:28] <SteveA> ok
[04:28] <kiko> I need to get to that folder ;-(
[04:28] <SteveA> mrevell: one note, zope3 is now using launchpad for bug tracking
[04:29] <ddaa> cheers
[04:29] <barry> w00t
[04:29] <mrevell> SteveA: Ah, cool :)
[04:29] <radix> SteveA: they've fully switched now? awesome
[04:29] <SteveA> zope3
[04:29] <matsubara> mrevell: the first issue is bug 56630
[04:29] <ubotu> Malone bug 56630 in malone "Tag changes are not recorded in the activity log" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56630 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt)
[04:29] <SteveA> we'll talk with them about other zope projects in due course
[04:29] <mrevell> matsubara: thanks
[04:30] <radix> SteveA: sure
[04:30] <SteveA>  * Three sentences
[04:30] <salgado> DONE: Shipit, some new pages for Steve, random fixes and code review
[04:30] <salgado> TODO: More random fixes, code review and some remaining shipit work
[04:30] <salgado> BLOCKED: no
[04:30] <flacoste> DONE: launchpad marketing microsite, reviews, bug fixes
[04:30] <flacoste> TODO: launchpad marketing microsite, write specs
[04:30] <flacoste> BLOCKED: no
 DONE: bzr 0.15rc2 porting, disallowed bad URLs on branch rego form, improved sftp auth errors, auto bug branch spec & bzr plugin.
 TODO: finish bzr plugin
 BLOCKED: Waiting on review for bzr 0.15rc2 porting branches and some discussion on rollout.
[04:30] <statik> DONE: recruiting, preparations for london sprint, reviewing db schema
[04:30] <statik> TODO: design audit table, more sprint preparations, work with customers
[04:30] <statik> Blocked: no
[04:30] <matsubara> DONE: triage, checked oops, fixed oops bugs;
 DONE: sprint: almost all bzr smart server tests passing, reviews, fixed make lint :)
 TODO: smart server, reviews
 BLOCKED: no
[04:30] <matsubara> TODO: more of the same.
[04:30] <matsubara> BLOCKED: no
[04:30] <SteveA> DONE: recruitment, management, ui work
[04:30] <SteveA> TODO: management, ui work
[04:30] <SteveA> BLOCKED: no
[04:30] <bac> DONE: more file mgmt UI work, recruiting, prepare for London sprint, 
[04:30] <bac> TODO: prepare for London sprint, changes to bug attachment
[04:30] <bac> BLOCKED: No
[04:30] <sinzui> DONE: bugs
[04:30] <sinzui> TODO: Unsupported Question report, Retarget answer requests
[04:30] <sinzui> BLOCKED: NO
[04:30] <BjornT> DONE: code reviews. landed all my reviewed branches. made it possible to
[04:30] <barry> DONE: mbox branch, bug 90118, bug 5193, mm ready for sourcecode, mm build branch
[04:30] <BjornT> file security bugs via the normal +filebug page.
[04:30] <BjornT> TODO: code reviews. fix more bugs.
[04:30] <BjornT> BLOCKED: no
[04:30] <barry> TODO: land mm in sourcecode, land mm build branch, finish work on mm monkeypatching, spend some time on xmlrpc
[04:30] <barry> BLOCKED: no
[04:30] <ubotu> Malone bug 90118 in launchpad "Launchpad bug emails need Precedence header" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90118 - Assigned to Barry Warsaw (barry)
 DONE: scanner-email branch is now past review, dbschema refactoring  is finished, worked on identifying and documenting the private branch use cases.
 TODO: land scanner-email, get dbschema refactoring reviewed, and get back on track with private branches.
 BLOCKED: no
[04:30] <ubotu> Malone bug 5193 in launchpad "PGP verification email should include instructions in unencrypted part" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5193 - Assigned to Barry Warsaw (barry)
[04:30] <bigjools> DONE: bug fixing 43115 and  48735, nothing landed yet. 43115 review in process
[04:30] <bigjools> TODO: land 43115, continue working with cprov on 48735
[04:30] <bigjools> BLOCKED: no
[04:30] <carlos> DONE: More import queue approvals, bug #46 data migration, bug #70074 review, reduced the noise of poimport script, firefox import/exports, prepared some improvements on Feisty lang packs exports, bug #96481 (vhost fixes), Finish LanguageAdministration spec implementation
[04:30] <carlos> TODO: Finish LanguageAdministration spec implementation, Firefox Support, new poimport infrastructure spec.
[04:30] <carlos> BLOCKED: No
[04:30] <ubotu> Malone bug 46 in rosetta ""special symbols" when people copy-paste text from original to translation" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46 - Assigned to Carlos Perell Marn (carlos)
[04:30] <ubotu> Malone bug 70074 in rosetta "Add direct link downloads" [Low,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70074 - Assigned to Carlos Perell Marn (carlos)
[04:30] <ubotu> Malone bug 96481 in rosetta "Virtual hosting for translation pages is broken" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96481 - Assigned to Carlos Perell Marn (carlos)
[04:30] <danilo_> DONE: fought with feisty upgrade, apparently laptop memory busted, done very little during the stretch
[04:30] <danilo_> TODO: push ooo migration script, UI fix, translation search, lots of bugfixing, licensing, helptexts
[04:30] <danilo_> BLOCKED: no
[04:30] <ddaa> DONE: small supermirror improvements, fix cscvs for feisty, start unbreaking importd test environment
[04:30] <ddaa> TODO: review jml's automatic-bug-branch-links and cscvs changes, basic importd oops support
[04:30] <ddaa> BLOCKED: spiv reply on vcs-import-sync-status
[04:31] <stub> TODO: OpenID
[04:31] <stub> DONE: Odds and sods
[04:31] <stub> BLOCKED: No
 DONE: code review, simple script success monitoring, bug imports, Bazaar sprint
[04:31] <mrevell> DONE: Visited London office, working on microsite and tour, working on general marketing things (portinari).
[04:31] <mrevell> TODO: Get microsite/tour into shape with flacoste, more general marketing stuff.
[04:31] <mrevell> BLOCKED: No
 TODO: code review, Bazaar sprint (friday), bug imports, database disconnect handling.
 BLOCKED: no
[04:31] <mpt> DONE: finished and landed page layout work; bug fixes
[04:31] <cprov> DONE: bug fixing, helping julian, nu-cataclysm review
[04:31] <cprov> TODO: nu-catclysm landing 
[04:31] <cprov> BLOCKED: no
[04:31] <mpt> TODO: reimplement the help panel; review specs and templates for new UI
[04:31] <mpt> BLOCKED: no
[04:31] <mthaddon> TODO: prepare three sentences for next week :)
[04:32] <kiko> DONE: fix fix fix bugs. work on rosetta blocker. some code reviews.  coordinate portinari
[04:32] <kiko> TODO: finish this rosetta work god damn it, more coordination
[04:32] <kiko> BLOCKED: amazon won't let me send people CDs
[04:32] <SteveA> kiko: enhancement for shipit?
[04:33] <kiko> fucking busted crap site
[04:33] <mpt> kiko, what can we do to unblock you? Send heavies around to the Amazon offices?
[04:33] <jtv> DONE: lots of setting up
[04:33] <SteveA> I want to send 45 Ubuntu CDs and 1 queens of the stone age
[04:33] <jtv> TODO: get stuck in
[04:33] <jtv> BLOCKED: until my rsync of the source tree completes
[04:33] <kiko> the raveonettes is the name of the CD
[04:33] <ddaa> kiko: in that vein: BLOCKED: ordered new thinkpad, but still have no reply from the shop.
[04:33] <kiko> and I may just fuck the RIAA and send people OGGs
[04:33] <danilo_> kiko is probably just talking about the Amazon river which is flooding Sao Carlos ;)
[04:34] <mpt> Eh, you can blame the RIAA for many things, but not for that
[04:34] <barry> kiko: that's the spirit!  support independent musicians :)
[04:34] <kiko> that's like 3000km from here
[04:34] <danilo_> kiko: as niemeyer would say, "quite close" :)
[04:34] <bigjools> RIAA has jurisdiction in Brazil? :)
[04:34] <kiko> mpt, I'm not blaming the RIAA, but they are getting the finger when I choose to mail oggs to people
[04:34] <SteveA> "A" for America
[04:34] <ddaa> kiko: what you mean like Sydney is not the capital of Australia?
[04:34] <SteveA> of which Brasil is a part
[04:34] <barry> bigjools: they have jurisdiction EVERYWHERE
[04:34] <SteveA> I think we're all done
[04:34] <bigjools> barry: they *think* they do, that's the problem....
[04:35] <mpt> Sydney is the capital of Australia, unless you're in Australia
[04:35] <SteveA> Thank you everyone
[04:35] <danilo_> bigjools: amazon probably doesn't allow paying with cc's from Brazil (or Serbia, as far as I know)
[04:35] <SteveA> MEETING ENDS
[04:35] <kiko> ddaa, it's the babe capital of australia and that's all I care about
[04:35] <flacoste> mthaddon: ping
[04:35] <mthaddon> flacoste: pong
[04:35] <ddaa> kiko: I thought that was Montreal...
[04:35] <kiko> danilo_, of course it does. that's ridiculous!
[04:35] <mthaddon> can someone add me to LP devs group on Launchpad - currently can't see some LP bugs
[04:35] <bac> http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FrontPage  -- note "Issue Collector" points to launchpad
[04:35] <kiko> mthaddon, how much will you pay me?
[04:35] <barry> bigjools: indeed
[04:35] <flacoste> mthaddon: will you be able to set staging to run my marketing-microsite branch for this afternoon's review (18UTC?)
[04:35] <mthaddon> I'll owe you a beer?
[04:35] <jtv> Yay!  My rsync finished
[04:36] <kiko> mthaddon, hmmm. okay. give the beer to stub.
[04:36] <danilo_> kiko: it does allow for using different ship to and billing address? I don't think it does that for Serbia at least :(
[04:36] <kiko> danilo_, yeah, no problem with that.
[04:36] <mthaddon> flacoste: will try, but not sure as it'll be my first setup - will check with stub if it's a blocker and get his help
[04:36] <mthaddon> kiko: will do :)
[04:37] <kiko> done.
[04:37] <mthaddon> kiko: thx!
[04:37] <stub> mthaddon: I'll be around a bit if you need me
[04:37] <danilo_> kiko: well, I guess you are more 'World' than Serbia then (not that I am surprised)
[04:37] <kiko> mthaddon, (stub is referring to the beer I think)
[04:38] <kiko> danilo_, there's room in the office for serbians...
[04:38] <mthaddon> sounds about right :)
[04:38] <stub> mthaddon: And Steve has done similar updates too
[04:38] <mthaddon> stub: ok, thanks
[04:38] <danilo_> kiko: heh, I'd consider if Brazilians kept their eating knives at home :P
[04:39] <danilo_> kiko: btw, with the nice weather coming up, I'm planning on getting a bike, so I'll bother you later so you can give me some hints what to look out for
[04:39] <kiko> danilo_, they were hungry. in so carlos there is more food
[04:39] <kiko> danilo_, sure thing. road or mountain?
[04:39] <danilo_> kiko: more asai? :)
[04:40] <bac> kiko are you a roadie too?
[04:40] <danilo_> kiko: mostly road, should take some mounting rides (i.e. not the track bike with thin tires)
[04:41] <danilo_> and roads in Belgrade are quite a lot like mountains
[04:41] <kiko> bac, yeah, I mostly train on the road because it's easier to ride in-target and not waste time
[04:41] <kiko> I ride the mountain bikes at most three times a week
[04:41] <bac> and your racing is mtb or cross?
[04:41] <jtv> you guys should see Holland...  flattest country in the world!
[04:42] <kiko> bac, mtb mostly. I do some road races when they are convenient or special
[04:42] <kiko> like I raced the gran fondo last year which was 160km around the coasline
[04:42] <kiko> coastline
[04:42] <kiko> but I'm a better mountain biker than road biker
[04:42] <kiko> and there are not a lot of road races with long climbs here 
[04:42] <kiko> so being more of a climber than a sprinter..
[04:43] <danilo_> kiko: that's because you're so fat, dude, you must like going downhills most :P
[04:43] <bac> how is the traffic in brazil towards bikers?  
[04:43] <kiko> bac, average. in-city it's not very good but we have lots of good roads around where I live
[04:44] <kiko> and the roads are wide and smooth
[04:44] <bac> nice...  
[04:44] <kiko> the trails are killer!
[04:44] <bac> tx had wide road but hostile drivers.  nc has no shoulder and only moderately hostile drivers.  :(
[04:44] <kiko> but there is not one flat section in so carlos, which means it's not easy to get a rest
[04:45] <kiko> bac, but tx has armstrong and that's made an impact everywhere
[04:45] <kiko> I think things have improved a lot over the past years with greater tour visibility world-wide
[04:45] <bac> kiko: well, he's not really from texas.  he's from austin.  :)
[04:45] <kiko> interesting what good PR can do
[04:45] <kiko> so I hear ;)
[04:50] <mthaddon> stub: ping
[04:51] <mthaddon> -> #launchpad-code
[04:52] <bigjools> bac: my friend in Austin would be interested to hear that :)
[04:52] <bac> oh, i think your friend would understand.
[04:52] <bigjools> well actually he's in round rock
[04:52] <bigjools> maybe that makes all the difference :)
[04:52] <bac> does he work for Mr. Dell?
[04:53] <bigjools> no - some defence contractor
[04:53] <bigjools> he used to work for Nasa in Houston
[04:53] <bigjools> got me loads of tours inside Mission Control :D
[04:53] <kiko> baby killer contracts
[04:54] <bigjools> and I played around in the astronauts' training hangar with the Shuttle mock-ups.
[04:54] <bac> bigjools: very neat
[04:55] <bigjools> no kidding!
[05:07] <Rinchen> jtv,  are you still awake? :-) 
[05:19] <TeTeT> can all bugs reported for products registered with canonical-salesforce be made private please?
[05:19] <baegle> I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to stop getting emails about bugs from launchpad. To the best of my knowledge, I'm not subscribed to them. What do I have to do to stop getting these emails?
[05:20] <Hobbsee> baegle: you in a team that's subscribed to them?
[05:20] <Hobbsee> or a bugs mailing list?
[05:20] <baegle> I have no idea how to tell
[05:21] <baegle> My personal page says I'm not a member of any teams
[05:31] <Rinchen> baegle, what's your launchpad id?
[05:32] <baegle> Beagle
[05:37] <salgado> baegle, https://beta.launchpad.net/~beagle/+subscribedbugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Rejected&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Released&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_contact=&field.status_upstream=&field.
[05:37] <salgado> status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_cve.used=
[05:37] <salgado> oh, crap
[05:37] <salgado> baegle, you're subscribed to https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/23813
[05:37] <ubotu> Malone bug 23813 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 "fglrx driver crashes on older ATi cards" [Medium,Fix released]  
[05:38] <salgado> baegle, you reported it, actually
[05:40] <kiko> heh
[05:41] <Rinchen> Thanks salgado 
[05:59] <mooey> in the beta, what 'relates' a bug to me? posting in it?
[05:59] <kiko> mooey, what do you mean?
[05:59] <salgado> mooey, no. only bugs you're subscribed to or bugs that are assigned to you
[06:03] <mooey> right, so its a combination of +assignedbugs and +subscribedbugs, thanks
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #98650 in launchpad "[beta]  huge text size when confirmed that my email changed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98650
[06:24] <baegle> salgado: I submitted that bug. But it seems that the bug was reported as a dupe and linked to other bugs. I now get emails regarding bugs: 94866, 95175, 96553, 97386, 72018, 91758, 96762, 96817, 95617, 91804, 73348, 77423.....(more)
[06:24] <kiko> baegle, heh. welcome to bugville usa
[06:25] <baegle> If I can't resolve this, I'm going to change me email address to something that will bounce, and probably be more reluctant to report further bugs or contribute to existing ones. How can I resolve this?
[06:27] <salgado> baegle, so, your launchpad name is al-vazquez?
[06:28] <baegle> Ah, yeah
[06:28] <salgado> you said it was beagle, so I thought you were https://launchpad.net/~beagle
[06:28] <baegle> It tells me I'm Beagle(al-vazquez)
[06:28] <baegle> as well as Beagle2 (on the wiki)
[06:29] <baegle> wasn't exactly sure how to answer your question, so I gave it my best guess. =P
[06:30] <kiko> baegle, just unsubscribe from the dupe.
[06:31] <kiko> baegle, or, if you like, filter the email on X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale
[06:31] <salgado> kiko, he can't unsubscribe --he's the reporter
[06:32] <kiko> salgado, sure he can unsubscribe. reporters are just regular subscribers.
[06:32] <salgado> really?
[06:32] <baegle> I'm not subscribed to bug 96817
[06:32] <ubotu> Malone bug 96817 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crash (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96817 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
[06:32] <kiko> this not bugzilla.
[06:32] <ubotu> Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)
[06:32] <kiko> yes, really. we designed it this way from the start.
[06:32] <salgado> baegle, so, all you need to do is to unsubscribe from bug 92132
[06:32] <ubotu> Malone bug 92132 in firefox "Intense JavaScript crash (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92132 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
[06:32] <kiko> baegle, just visit bug 72018 and click on unsubscribe
[06:33] <salgado> baegle, forget about the 72018 one --the bug which is causing all this is the 92132
[06:34] <salgado> or not?
[06:34] <salgado> kiko, does he need to unsubscribe from the dupe or from the non-dupe one?
[06:34] <kiko> salgado, we provided dupe subscribers with a shortcut 
[06:34] <kiko> so he can just click unsubscribe on the dupe master
[06:35] <baegle> yeah, wow, OK, thanks, I had no idea I had to trace the bugs back up through to unsubscribe. I was trying to go to every bug I got an email for and I couldn't unsubscribe from them. I must have missed 72018
[06:35] <salgado> baegle, all notifications you got should mention the 72018 one
[06:35] <kiko> baegle, you can unsubscribe from the dupe "master" or from the duplicate you are directly subscribed to
[06:38] <baegle> salgado: I didn't actually open the emails, I just pulled the bug numbers, tried to unsubscribe and couldn't, checked my personal pages. I was pretty lost, but I also wasn't trying hard enough it would seem.
[06:38] <baegle> Thank you again
[06:38] <kiko> baegle, with the new UI, we'll have X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale headers
[06:38] <kiko> so you'll be able to filter there
[06:39] <kiko> flacoste, mrevell: ping
[06:39] <mrevell> kiko: pong
[06:39] <flacoste> kiko: pong
[06:40] <kiko> wow
[06:42] <LaserJock> hi kiko 
[06:44] <LaserJock> carlos: ping, regarding edubuntu-doc templates. No rush, but I'm not positive where to look to see if they made it.
[06:44] <carlos> LaserJock: not yet done, sorry
[06:45] <LaserJock> carlos: np, it's just my first time dealing with .pots
[06:46] <carlos> usually we do it quite fast, but right now I'm a bit busy, that's all
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #98675 in rosetta "Lorsque je "boot" j'ai toujours pci bug #81[4943599] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98675
[07:17] <beuno> that but seems wrong on so many levels...
[07:23] <Rinchen> beuno, only if it you change "boot" to "rosetta"  ;-) 
[07:23] <beuno> hahah
[08:09] <kiko> hey LaserJock 
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #98712 in malone "Tags should only be displayed in sidebar if they are used within queried package." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98712
[09:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[09:03] <LaserJock> is ^^ perhaps a dup of 59154 or 66841 ?
[09:03] <kiko> yeah, I think so
[09:04] <LaserJock> there's a few "don't show *all* tags" kind of bugs, basically seems like it needs tag context
[09:05] <shirish> hi all
[09:05] <shirish> anybody up?
[09:06] <kiko> no
[09:06] <shirish> kiko: hi
[09:06] <kiko> what's up
[09:07] <shirish> kiko: I'm a newbie to launchpad, how do I write a bug, I want a newer driver from x.org, is this a valid bug request or not?
[09:08] <kiko> it is a valid bug request, though it may have been filed already. start at launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[09:13] <shirish> kiko: I'm there now, I searched but there doesn't seem to be a bug request for newer version of the pre-release driver & xorg.core so how should I go about filing it, it's a feature/functionality request
[09:13] <kiko> sure thing, go ahead
[09:17] <shirish> kiko: good thing I tried up couple of more keywords & it seems somebody has already filed a bug report asking for this feature. Is there a way to vote for it?
[09:17] <shirish> kiko: this is the feature request/bug-report https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting/+bug/90213
[09:17] <ubotu> Malone bug 90213 in xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting "xf86-video-intel 1.9.91 (2.0 RC1) is out, and would be nice to have as the source for the xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[09:18] <kiko> shirish, good job
[09:18] <shirish> kiko: I didn't file tht, somebody already had filed it & he has done a good job of it :)
[09:19] <kiko> ah, cool
[09:20] <kiko> shirish, there's no "me too" feature right now, but subscribe to the bug and it will be noticed
[09:21] <Rinchen> sadly, my vote doesn't count.
[09:21] <kiko> voting is really controversial
[09:21] <kiko> after years of experience with it in bugzilla
[09:21] <kiko> I think voting is close to useless unless done in a way which doesn't encourage whining
[09:22] <beuno> kiko: no comment, just a "+1 vote"?
[09:22] <kiko> the problem with voting is that it's a counter that people think should influence the direction of the project
[09:22] <beuno> :D  should of read a lil but more, hehe
[09:23] <kiko> but that's not necessarily true
[09:23] <kiko> for instance, you might have 1000 users voting for something which leadership decides not to do
[09:23] <beuno> kiko: but wouldn't that give the devs an *idea* of what's being more annoying to users?
[09:23] <kiko> and then people come in and say "this bug has 213232
[09:23] <kiko> votes!"
[09:23] <kiko> beuno, subscriptions already give us that.
[09:23] <kiko> and duplicates.
[09:23] <LaserJock> and forums ;-)
[09:23] <Rinchen> I think when properly implemented for bugs, and possible features, it does express the popularity of a particular entry. 
[09:23] <beuno> well, you can always ignore it, at least you know about it...
[09:24] <kiko> I think a "me too" is interesting because it gives us a better idea of what users /are affected/ by the bug.
[09:24] <kiko> beuno, it's hard to ignore fervorous bugmail, believe me
[09:24] <beuno> LaserJock: don't get me started on launchpad <> forum integration cause I won't stop  :p
[09:24] <Rinchen> kiko, for the purposes of my previous email, a "me too" would work :-) 
[09:25] <Rinchen> beuno, there's integr......er.... *bites tounge*
[09:25] <beuno> what what what what?
[09:25] <kiko> a me too is different from voting in that it doesn't contribute to a count
[09:26] <shirish> kiko, Rinchen: by mistake I also subscribed to another bug, how do I remove it, only through e-mail or is there another way?
[09:26] <kiko> it's just a way of having you register what bugs affect you
[09:26] <kiko> shirish, click on Unsubscribe
[09:26] <Rinchen> beuno, that was a joke ;-)   I'm powered by caffeine and no sleep today :-)
[09:26] <Rinchen> shirish, find the bug in question and there will be an unsubscribe action
[09:27] <beuno> Rinchen: I've been hurt before   :(
[09:27] <shirish> Got tht guys, it did the subscribe thing but didn't refresh the options, when I manually refreshed the page, the option was there & I unsubscribed, thnx guys
[09:27] <beuno> I even coded part of what was needed to get the forums displaying bug info, but I never got an answer from ryan...
[09:28] <Rinchen> I know the lead folks from UDS MTV, that's about it.
[09:28] <shirish> I'm very much affected by the bug I subscribed to, in fact made a longish post at ubuntuforums, now the only thing left is to give this link so people can subscribe to tht bug also in the hopes tht people affected with tht bug will make something happen
[09:28] <Rinchen> beuno, how's UWN coming along for this week?
[09:29] <beuno> Rinchen: a bit behind other weeks, but nothing that won't be solved in the next days  :D
[09:30] <shirish> guys, shouldn't there be a subscription page or something, which tells what bugs u have subscribed to?
[09:30] <beuno> shirish: check your launchpad profile
[09:30] <kiko> shirish, you mean launchpad.net/~shirish/+subscribedbugs ?
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #98732 in launchpad "Uploading an icon without file extension raises AssertionError" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98732
[09:46] <carlos> good night!
[09:46] <LaserJock> good night carlos 
[09:47] <shirish> kiko, beuno, thnx for your suggestion
[09:47] <carlos> LaserJock: the import queue is a bit busy right now, handlind post beta files
[09:47] <shirish> my work here is complete, added a comment to the bug, subscribed to the bug 
[09:47] <carlos> LaserJock: so edubuntu templates will take a bit more to be imported...
[09:47] <kiko> cool
[09:47] <shirish> can anybody look at my comment & see if I've missed out anything or everything is cool
[09:47] <carlos> cheers
[09:48] <shirish> it's here at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting/+bug/90213/comments/4
[09:48] <beuno> shirish: welcome, g'night
[09:48] <ubotu> Malone bug 90213 in xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting "xf86-video-intel 1.9.91 (2.0 RC1) is out, and would be nice to have as the source for the xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting package" [Undecided,Needs info]  
[09:49] <shirish> one more thing guys, ubotu says the bug needs more info. what info. is required, can anybody help me?
[09:49] <Lumiere> ubotu is a bot
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <LaserJock> lol
[09:50] <Lumiere> anyways... it sees bug and a number
[09:50] <Lumiere> and loads the LP data for the bug
[09:50] <Lumiere> and displays it
[09:50] <Lumiere> it will be reviewed at some point and the status updated
[09:50] <Lumiere> or a comment added asking for more info
[09:50] <shirish> Lumiere: I know tht, I was telling if somebody can help me find this need info. thing on the bug-report, I'll be happy to give as much as possible so tht the feature-request is done
[09:52] <Lumiere> shirish: the person who marked it as needing info will say if/what you need to add
[09:52] <shirish> Lumiere: will tht request come to my e-mail or where?
[09:54] <Lumiere> heh
[09:58] <Lumiere> shirish: it would be a comment to the bug
[09:58] <Lumiere> which should be emailed to the address you registered for LP with
[09:59] <shirish> ok thnx, would have to whitelist it then, it would come at @launchpad.com right?
[09:59] <Lumiere> I would whitelist *@bugs.launchpad.net and bounces@canonical.com
[10:00] <Lumiere> if you can do some regex in whitelists
[10:00] <shirish> ok cool, thnx doing it right now
[10:00] <Lumiere> all the ?@ for bugs.launchpad
[10:00] <Lumiere> are the bug number
[10:01] <shirish> I'm using gmail so don't know if regex is allowed there or not
[10:04] <shirish> I just made 2 filters tht should cover it 
[10:06] <Lumiere> off to a folder?
[10:06] <shirish> in gmail, you can create fiter just a label, starring so easy to see :)
[10:08] <Lumiere> yea
[10:08] <shirish> and the first comment has already come in, time to test it :)
[10:13] <jen> i am trying to confirm my openpgp key. i don't know how to decrypt the email i have received
[10:13] <jen> sorry if this is the wrong place to ask
[10:15] <LaserJock> jen: so you have a gpg key? and have decrypted anything with it before?
[10:15] <jen> just got the key this evening.  all i have done is put my fingerprint in and received an email
[10:17] <LaserJock> jen: you should be able to run gpg --decrypt on the contents of the email
[10:18] <LaserJock> jen: btw, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto is very helpful
[10:18] <jen> sorry for being dense but do you mean in the terminal?  if so then do I copy the email and paste it after the gpg --decrypt?
[10:20] <LaserJock> jen: yes, in a terminal, but copy and past it into a file and then run gpg --decrypt <file> where <file> is the name of the file
[10:24] <jen> hmm, did that but it doesn't like my passphrase.  is it the whole of what is written on launchpad?
[10:27] <jen> scrap that, just realised what the passphrase was and i have the email decrypted.  Thank you so much for your help
[10:28] <LaserJock> jen: no problem
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #98767 in launchpad "Upstream alioth bug url incorrectly detected as Sourceforge url" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98767
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #98771 in launchpad "Fill in bottom pixel of person icon" [Low,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98771