| asac | hmm | 12:27 |
|---|---|---|
| gnomefreak | maybe | 12:27 |
| asac | hard to say | 12:27 |
| gnomefreak | waiting | 12:27 |
| gnomefreak | got it | 12:27 |
| asac | does theme switch completely? | 12:27 |
| gnomefreak | crashed like a bad boy | 12:27 |
| asac | if it doesn't it will crash | 12:27 |
| asac | yeah cool :) | 12:27 |
| asac | or not so cool | 12:27 |
| gnomefreak | yes and freezes and than poof | 12:27 |
| asac | hmm | 12:27 |
| asac | so what plugins do you have installed? | 12:27 |
| asac | aeh codecs | 12:28 |
| gnomefreak | i guess ill look at crash report see what happened | 12:28 |
| asac | its the restyle crash | 12:28 |
| asac | almost certainly | 12:28 |
| gnomefreak | it was runing totem-gstreamer with the mad plugins and all the other popular ones | 12:28 |
| asac | hey | 12:29 |
| asac | so what do i need to install? | 12:29 |
| asac | totem-gstreamer? + ?? | 12:29 |
| gnomefreak | hold on a sec | 12:29 |
| gnomefreak | sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs | 12:30 |
| gnomefreak | dont need the xine packages | 12:31 |
| gnomefreak | you need bad and ugly | 12:31 |
| gnomefreak | pifdll and so on | 12:31 |
| asac | ok thanks i have to try in vm | 12:34 |
| asac | in chroot i cannot switch theme | 12:34 |
| gnomefreak | thats odd | 12:34 |
| asac | :/ | 12:34 |
| asac | what? | 12:34 |
| gnomefreak | cant find main in stack | 12:34 |
| gnomefreak | it all looks like widget change crash | 12:34 |
| asac | widget change? | 12:35 |
| gnomefreak | is nsApp"run | 12:35 |
| asac | yeah | 12:35 |
| asac | its gtk_style_realize | 12:35 |
| asac | ? | 12:35 |
| gnomefreak | widget reset were alot of them | 12:35 |
| gnomefreak | yep it is | 12:35 |
| gnomefreak | thought that was fixed with totem in feisty | 12:36 |
| asac | that one is the most haevyweight bug in launchpad afaik | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | i was expecting the background one | 12:36 |
| asac | no other bug has more dups :) | 12:36 |
| asac | 138 | 12:36 |
| asac | or so | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | sweet :) | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | well not so sweet | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | it was fixed in -xine but not in gstrreamer? | 12:36 |
| asac | actually i think we have 10-20% of crashes due to that | 12:37 |
| asac | another 20% due to crash on instant shutdown | 12:37 |
| asac | at least | 12:37 |
| asac | so its not sooo bad | 12:37 |
| asac | if we fix both, users should be really happy :) | 12:37 |
| asac | anyway ... both are hard to fix ;) | 12:37 |
| gnomefreak | we need to find a way to fix it bad | 12:37 |
| gnomefreak | it is totem that is cause right? | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | we did get that far? | 12:38 |
| asac | yes ... it might be a mozilla deficiency | 12:38 |
| asac | but no other plugin has the same symptoms | 12:38 |
| asac | so totem should work around that | 12:38 |
| asac | probably much easier to understand | 12:38 |
| asac | then mozilla | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | if at all possible fix for feisty and edgy but edgy is gonna be a maybe :( | 12:38 |
| asac | plugin code ... which is just too dangerous to touch i guess | 12:39 |
| asac | first we need to fix it | 12:39 |
| asac | everything else doesn't matter for now :) | 12:39 |
| asac | sad thing: i cannot work on it, because feisty doesn't work | 12:39 |
| asac | and totem plugin code has changed too much | 12:39 |
| gnomefreak | doesnt work? | 12:39 |
| asac | so its not worth evaluating this in edgy | 12:39 |
| asac | i can't install | 12:40 |
| asac | things | 12:40 |
| asac | i have to try in vm now | 12:40 |
| asac | if that doesn't work | 12:40 |
| asac | setup a i386 vm | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | you have feisty in chroot? | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | or main system | 12:40 |
| asac | interesting ... i got video | 12:43 |
| asac | feisty in chroot | 12:44 |
| asac | and vm | 12:44 |
| asac | but its rare | 12:45 |
| asac | i guess totem plugin is really borked | 12:45 |
| asac | it become even worse then before | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | i ended up getting video on most of them just that one i didnt get | 01:49 |
| asac | yeah ... but if it does not work it won't until restart | 02:08 |
| asac | thats what i found | 02:08 |
| gnomefreak | after instaloling the codecs and shit yeah | 02:09 |
| gnomefreak | i cant stand stupid bugs that i tell people to report :( | 02:10 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you have 2.0.0.2 at all in edgy or feisty? | 02:10 |
| gnomefreak | i have a feeling this is a regression | 02:11 |
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| gnomefreak | Admiral_Chicago: what firefox do you have? | 02:16 |
| Admiral_Chicago | gnomefreak: let me check...2.0.0.2 | 02:16 |
| gnomefreak | anyone have dapper? | 02:16 |
| asac | chroot | 02:17 |
| Admiral_Chicago | nope. | 02:17 |
| gnomefreak | Admiral_Chicago: can you move bookmarks in your bookmark menu? | 02:17 |
| asac | Admiral_Chicago: can you please try if totem-xine works for you? | 02:17 |
| asac | but please keep 2.0.0.2 :) | 02:17 |
| gnomefreak | asac: how far do you want that tested lol | 02:17 |
| asac | you are on feisty right? | 02:17 |
| Admiral_Chicago | asac: sure. i was in the process of updating but did Crtl + C. | 02:17 |
| gnomefreak | i have 2.0.0.2 in edgy chroot :) | 02:17 |
| asac | cool | 02:17 |
| Admiral_Chicago | gnomefreak: yes i can | 02:17 |
| asac | edgy appears to be no problem | 02:17 |
| gnomefreak | you can without using organize? | 02:18 |
| Admiral_Chicago | gnomefreak: in the bookmark toolbar I can. | 02:18 |
| asac | you need totem >= 2.18 | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | just drag and drop a bookmark into a folder inside bookmarks :( | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | wyf it dont work here either | 02:18 |
| Admiral_Chicago | not in the bookmarks menu item | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | wtf even | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | thats what i need to know | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | without using organize | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | im installing dappers firefox now to check but i dont remember being able to do that | 02:19 |
| Admiral_Chicago | asac: installing nov | 02:19 |
| asac | " I simply | 02:21 |
| asac | cannot move bookmarks using the bookmarks toolbar" | 02:21 |
| asac | what is reporter trying to do? | 02:21 |
| Admiral_Chicago | asac: got a link to totem xine? | 02:23 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i've got Version: 2.18.0-0ubuntu2 | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | move bookmarks inside the bookmark toolbar :) | 02:26 |
| Admiral_Chicago | hmm, i installed totem-xine, do i need a plug in, its not in about:plugins | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | something wrong with dapper repos in my chroot | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | Admiral_Chicago: restart ff? | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | update fixed it :) | 02:27 |
| gnomefreak | my hand is killing me :( | 02:29 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i did, not there...od | 02:29 |
| gnomefreak | girlfreind thinks carple tunnel :( | 02:29 |
| Admiral_Chicago | probably. switch to dvorak layout | 02:29 |
| gnomefreak | dvorak? | 02:30 |
| Admiral_Chicago | if i restart Fx, it won't launch, but from command line it will | 02:30 |
| Admiral_Chicago | aoeuidhtnns are my home row | 02:30 |
| Admiral_Chicago | the most used key really | 02:30 |
| gnomefreak | Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.18.0 | 02:31 |
| gnomefreak | i have it first in about:plugins | 02:31 |
| Admiral_Chicago | let me try again. | 02:31 |
| gnomefreak | asac: bug 97647 | 02:32 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 97647 in firefox "Unable to organize bookmarks in firefox bookmark bar" [Low,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97647 | 02:32 |
| Admiral_Chicago | still gails to launch.... | 02:32 |
| Admiral_Chicago | fails* | 02:32 |
| gnomefreak | gonna try dapper when its done installing | 02:32 |
| gnomefreak | Admiral_Chicago: make sure its fully installed | 02:32 |
| gnomefreak | try to install it again | 02:32 |
| Admiral_Chicago | yep. doing that. also did apt-get build-dep firefox | 02:33 |
| Admiral_Chicago | gotta run for a sec | 02:33 |
| gnomefreak | rejected as normal behavour after testing dapper edgy feisty sid | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i assigned you to bug 93546 per doko(matthias) i believe thats him | 02:42 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 93546 in openoffice.org "2.2(rc3) Openoffice.org Address data sources missing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93546 | 02:42 |
| gnomefreak | night everyone :0 | 03:12 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | someone want to reject bug #97196 for me | 07:06 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 97196 in firefox "In Feisty, Drag and Drop in Firefox Extension 'Zotero' is refused (works in Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97196 | 07:06 |
| Admiral_Chicago | we don't have that extension in our repos | 07:06 |
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| asac | Admiral_Chicago: yes will | 08:49 |
| Admiral_Chicago | ty asac | 08:49 |
| Admiral_Chicago | going to bed, seem to have found some bugs in Xfce for Mozilla | 08:50 |
| Admiral_Chicago | seems to be running as root, everything seems to be. not sure what it is, going to look at it tomorrow | 08:51 |
| asac | night | 08:52 |
| Admiral_Chicago | night | 08:55 |
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| docvegan | hello | 08:56 |
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| gnomefreak | asac: you around? i was reading logs in -bugs since i was highlited and the link that guy gave you crashes his browser? | 01:31 |
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| gnomefreak | hmmmm | 01:51 |
| gnomefreak | @schedule new_york | 02:01 |
| ubotu | Schedule for America/New_York: 29 Mar 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Apr 16:00: Marketing Team | 02 Apr 11:00: Community question time | 03 Apr 07:00: Community Council | 03 Apr 11:00: Kernel Team | 03 Apr 14:00: Mozilla Team | 02:01 |
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| gnomefreak | ok turning this back back over. can someone else please test this on edgy with either 2.0.0.2 or .3 bug 97429 | 03:09 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 97429 in firefox "Login hangs for Kodak Firefox plugin" [Low,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97429 | 03:09 |
| gnomefreak | asac: if i change the name of iceape in control, changelog is it as simple as re taring it with new name and building it again | 03:37 |
| asac | probably | 06:10 |
| asac | however branding will still be iceape | 06:10 |
| gnomefreak | ok cool i like that idea. :P i will try to build it with our changes tonight/tomorrow. its hard to type with these splints on | 06:51 |
| hjmf | asac: can we mark bug #71702 as upstream https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322131 cause it has the same backtrace | 07:13 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 71702 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@js_FinalizeStringRT] [@js_atom_uninterner] " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71702 | 07:13 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 322131 in Installer: XPInstall Engine "Invalid heap pointer on shutdown after installing venkman [@ libc.so.6 - JS_FinalizeStringRT()] " [Critical,New] | 07:13 |
| hjmf | ...mmm not exactly the same stack, but quite close :/ | 07:18 |
| asac | i will look when i come back (2h) | 07:47 |
| hjmf | k :) | 08:12 |
| hjmf | @schedule | 08:25 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: 29 Mar 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Apr 20:00: Marketing Team | 02 Apr 15:00: Community question time | 03 Apr 11:00: Community Council | 03 Apr 15:00: Kernel Team | 03 Apr 18:00: Mozilla Team | 08:25 |
| gnomefreak | asac: devel meeting soon | 09:25 |
| gnomefreak | 35 minutes give or take schedule is wrong from what riddell said | 09:26 |
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| gnomefreak | slow and typos expected | 09:29 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ty | 09:43 |
| gnomefreak | yw | 09:43 |
| asac | @schedule berlin | 09:43 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 29 Mar 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Apr 22:00: Marketing Team | 02 Apr 17:00: Community question time | 03 Apr 13:00: Community Council | 03 Apr 17:00: Kernel Team | 03 Apr 20:00: Mozilla Team | 09:43 |
| asac | crazy | 09:43 |
| asac | thats late | 09:43 |
| gnomefreak | its wrong by an hour :) | 09:43 |
| asac | yeah ... moved back | 09:43 |
| asac | apparently | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | its in 19 minutes | 09:44 |
| asac | no | 09:44 |
| asac | @time berlin | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | because of time change | 09:44 |
| ubotu | Current time in Europe/Berlin: March 29 2007, 21:44:15 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 1 hour 15 minutes | 09:44 |
| asac | i hope its in 15 minutes :) | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | its in 15 minutes than | 09:44 |
| asac | really? see above | 09:44 |
| asac | 2300 is in 1.15 here | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | its wrong fridge wasnt updated | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | see #ubuntu-meeting | 09:44 |
| asac | ah ok | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 09:45 |
| asac | what is with your hand? | 09:45 |
| gnomefreak | carple tunnel | 09:45 |
| gnomefreak | spelloing might be off | 09:45 |
| asac | ok i think i know what you mean :) | 09:45 |
| gnomefreak | 3 days of pain i finally went to dr. | 09:46 |
| asac | yeah ... be careful | 09:46 |
| asac | so it won't become chronic | 09:46 |
| gnomefreak | trying :) | 09:46 |
| gnomefreak | ill be in and out for the rest of week more than likely due to it | 09:47 |
| gnomefreak | brb reboot | 09:49 |
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| gnomefreak | asac: is ftp.debian.org having issues? | 10:00 |
| asac | hmm | 10:00 |
| asac | try http://ftp.us.debian.org | 10:00 |
| asac | try http://ftp.de.debian.org | 10:00 |
| asac | try http://ftp.nl.debian.org | 10:00 |
| asac | :) | 10:00 |
| asac | ok meeting | 10:00 |
| gnomefreak | its slow if its working at all | 10:00 |
| asac | yeah ... use a mirror | 10:01 |
| gnomefreak | have fun :) | 10:01 |
| asac | main archive has often hevay load | 10:01 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 10:01 |
| gnomefreak | us worked ty | 10:06 |
| gnomefreak | :( | 10:11 |
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| gnomefreak | people with low bandwidth leave or coredump so come up with a way to do it - coredump | 10:28 |
| gnomefreak | anyway that would save bandwidth and a crap load of work on us | 10:33 |
| asac | done | 11:01 |
| asac | yeah | 11:01 |
| asac | new is that crash reports will probably be disabled by default | 11:02 |
| gnomefreak | hmmm patches are failing | 11:02 |
| asac | for stable releases | 11:02 |
| asac | for development still on | 11:02 |
| asac | at least thats what I understand | 11:02 |
| gnomefreak | asac: thats not real good because we wont know what crashes | 11:02 |
| asac | the idea is to ask users that report good other bugs to enable it | 11:03 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmmm that isnt very supportable for new users | 11:03 |
| hjmf | not a bad idea, but we will loose a lot of fun :) | 11:03 |
| gnomefreak | they dont know what they are doing as it is | 11:03 |
| asac | crashes will happen for everyone | 11:03 |
| gnomefreak | hjmf: lose fun =- problems go unfixed | 11:03 |
| asac | actually ... for stable releases we don't do much about crashes anyway | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | but as it is they ignore it | 11:04 |
| asac | they usually get only security fixes | 11:04 |
| asac | gnomefreak: most problems will go unfixed anyway | 11:04 |
| asac | :) | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | im ok with it cutting down on bug reports but if we dont know of an issue we cant look forward to fix it in next release | 11:05 |
| asac | actually i am the opinion that we cannot do much for crashes where we have no way to reproduce | 11:05 |
| asac | we cannot even contribute info upstream | 11:05 |
| gnomefreak | crashes can be securtiy issues no? | 11:05 |
| hjmf | from what I've understand apport will be disable on stable by default, right? | 11:05 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes :) | 11:05 |
| asac | actually might even be valid that every crash is at least a DOS security bug | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | so we are relying on unrelyible users to inform us of problems | 11:06 |
| asac | however for firefox safe crashes don't count as security | 11:06 |
| asac | gnomefreak: we do so atm as well | 11:06 |
| asac | we just call them more aggressively in | 11:06 |
| asac | which i don't think will increase signal/noise ratio | 11:07 |
| asac | further, reporting a bug is not what every users should go through | 11:08 |
| asac | real beginners might even be get terrified by the bug mail that they receive afterwards | 11:08 |
| asac | just try to assume you have no idea what happens if you report a crash report | 11:08 |
| asac | you just want to help | 11:08 |
| asac | then suddenly you receive tons of mails | 11:08 |
| asac | about changed tags | 11:08 |
| asac | importance | 11:09 |
| asac | some obscure words about retracing | 11:09 |
| asac | e.g | 11:09 |
| asac | . | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | yeah i know i see both sides of it | 11:09 |
| asac | imo if you use a stable distribution you should not be bothered with any such things | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | im gonna have to disable all patches at this rate :( | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | asac: agreed | 11:10 |
| asac | even crash report dialogs get too much in my way some times | 11:10 |
| asac | so lets try to gather as much as possible from development release users before release | 11:10 |
| asac | then shut-up ... just listen to advanced-users that explicitly opted-in to help us support stable releases | 11:11 |
| gnomefreak | even the users testing the dist. dont know wtf they are doing lol | 11:11 |
| gnomefreak | can i just drop all debians patches :( | 11:12 |
| asac | from what? | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | iceape | 11:12 |
| asac | probably not | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | its failing on ALL of them so far | 11:12 |
| asac | any patch touches the file the build feils in? | 11:12 |
| asac | how does it fail | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #81_free_art_improvements | 11:13 |
| asac | there is an iceape 1.1 package in experimental | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #82_homepage | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #82_locale | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #82_prefs | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #82_ssl | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #85_about | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #85_release_notes | 11:13 |
| asac | take that | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #85_syspref | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #85_useragent | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #15_gecko_1.8.0.11 | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | #99_configure | 11:13 |
| asac | ^^^^ | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | so far | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | asac: doesnt build as of lastweek | 11:13 |
| asac | experimental? | 11:13 |
| asac | doesn't build? | 11:13 |
| asac | whats missing? | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | oh maybe that was it | 11:13 |
| asac | probably xulrunner? | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | one of them 1.1.1 didnt build and you knew about it | 11:14 |
| asac | yes ... but i talked to maintainer | 11:14 |
| asac | he insisted that current version is good | 11:14 |
| asac | i trust him in this regards | 11:14 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill try it again | 11:14 |
| asac | how does it fail? | 11:14 |
| asac | during compilation or missing dependency? | 11:15 |
| gnomefreak | dont rememeber | 11:15 |
| gnomefreak | its in experimental | 11:16 |
| gnomefreak | ill see what happens on test build without changes | 11:16 |
| asac | you build in feisty, right? | 11:16 |
| asac | ok try that | 11:16 |
| gnomefreak | yep | 11:17 |
| gnomefreak | ill play with it tonight for a bit. the pain wont let me sleep like it did lastnight im sure | 11:17 |
| asac | you might need latest xulrunner as well | 11:17 |
| asac | what version do you use? | 11:17 |
| asac | or doesn't it depend on libnss ? | 11:17 |
| asac | just try :) | 11:17 |
| gnomefreak | ill let you know what i find if soon if not tomorrow | 11:18 |
| asac | Call for testing: HPLIP 1.7.3 | 11:18 |
| asac | anyone has a printer? | 11:18 |
| gnomefreak | yeah i have hp printer :) | 11:19 |
| asac | then you are quite ahead of my | 11:19 |
| asac | i have none :) | 11:19 |
| gnomefreak | if you ping me tomorrow about it ill test it | 11:20 |
| asac | last one i gave away because i thought that printers are things of the past :) | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | printer has come in handy for me | 11:20 |
| asac | was dropped on ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com | 11:20 |
| asac | yeah :) .... once a year i need to print something | 11:21 |
| asac | then i think ... damn, why don't you have a printer? | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | im out for a bit its getting hard to type | 11:33 |
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