[02:07] <Innatech> Anyone have any known gotchas relating to setup of OpenLDAP + Samba3 (as a PDC) on an LTS server install?
[02:07] <theacolyte> Yeah
[02:07] <theacolyte> It doesn't work without a lot of work :)
[02:07] <theacolyte> I gave up personally
[02:07] <Innatech> Hehe. Can you recall what the dealbreakers were? 
[02:07] <theacolyte> Hmmm
[02:08] <theacolyte> When I left off, I had samba running, but whenever I tried to access a share it wouldn't authenticate, can't remember anything more specific
[02:08] <theacolyte> All appearances it looked fine though
[02:08] <theacolyte> And to be more precise -- it wasn't OpenLDAP it was ADS... but I tried it with LDAP just to make sure, didn't work either
[02:08] <theacolyte> hehe
[02:08] <Innatech> Aha. OK, good to know. Thanks. 
[02:09] <theacolyte> there's a lot of documentation out there, none of which seemed to work
[02:09] <Innatech> Yeah, it all seems either old or to make a point of avoiding the LDAP back-end.
[02:09] <theacolyte> evaluating openfiler right now actually. Tired of buying CALs for a fileserver
[02:09] <theacolyte> (win2003)
[02:09] <Innatech> I'll try and document what I do in a useful way if I can get it going. 
[02:10] <theacolyte> Yeah, if you get it working, I'd love to see what you did
[02:10] <Burgwork> I would use fds, personally
[02:10] <Burgwork> do you have windows or linux clients?
[02:10] <Innatech> Windows clients. 
[02:10] <theacolyte> windows
[02:10] <theacolyte> all xp sp2
[02:10] <Burgwork> hmm
[02:10] <Burgwork> I am lucky, I have all Ubuntu, client and server
[02:11] <theacolyte> So, for me, I'd have to auth against AD (using AD or LDAP)
[02:11] <theacolyte> There's no chance in hell I'll ever be able to move our desktops to linux unfortunately
[02:11] <Burgwork> for AD, you need samba 4
[02:11] <theacolyte> I'd be fired if I even mentioned it (not really, but if I tried)
[02:11] <Burgwork> samba3 is only for client
[02:11] <Innatech> yeah. My clients won't give up Windows on the desktop either, but they're *totally* excited about replacing their network's core with Linux. 
[02:12] <Innatech> mm....Samba3 will work as an 2000-style PDC. 
[02:12] <theacolyte> I can't get rid of Exchange
[02:12] <theacolyte> Burgwork: I'm not trying to replace my DC's/GCS's
[02:12] <Innatech> Which version of Exchange?
[02:12] <theacolyte> 2003
[02:12] <theacolyte> I can't justify 2007
[02:12] <Innatech> Yeah. 
[02:13] <theacolyte> Especially since it's about as likely I'll switch users to linux as I'll be installing Office 2007
[02:13] <theacolyte> LOL
[02:13] <Innatech> If you were running 2K, you could probably get away with a Samba PDC, but not with 2003. 
[02:13] <theacolyte> I'm a 1 man IT shop for 120 employees 5 offices 30 remote users... no time to train
[02:14] <Burgwork> I think you both shoudl stick with AD and Exchange
[02:14] <Burgwork> there are no drag and drop solutions yet
[02:14] <Innatech> Well, I don't sell Windows servers, so.....
[02:14] <theacolyte> Yeah, the only thing I was going to replace actually was fileserving, just because I'm not compliant with CAL's and I don't really want to drop $3000 just so people can access shared files
[02:15] <theacolyte> (don't tell MS)
[02:15] <Burgwork> ya
[02:15] <Burgwork> this is a publicly logged channel
[02:15] <theacolyte> BSA ALERT... BSA ALERT
[02:15] <theacolyte> Actually, I'm using Ubuntu Server as a backend server... NTP, Cacti, Splunk, various other things you can't do with Windows well
[02:15] <Innatech> Yup. My clients are all smaller offices. They're gerneally happy with hosted exchange, and don't want to spend the money to have a Windows domain on site when I can give them everything but Exchange on Samba. 
[02:15] <theacolyte> working nicely
[02:16] <Innatech> I just haven't tried to do it with LDAP or on LTS before. 
[02:16] <Burgwork> what LTS are you talking about?
[02:16] <Burgwork> long term support?
[02:16] <Innatech> Ubuntu LTS. yep. 
[02:16] <theacolyte> 6.06?
[02:16] <Burgwork> rightr
[02:17] <theacolyte> Splunk is really, really, really nice by the way
[02:17] <Innatech> But, really, if I never see another .rpm I'll be a happier man. So I'm going to try it. 
[02:17] <theacolyte> hehehehe
[02:17] <theacolyte> I'm actually coming from a RHEL background and before that good ol' RH. I know what you mean.
[02:19] <Innatech> Heh. I have the 1999 "Learning Red Hat" on my shelf. I still use some CentOS but I'm much happier on Debian based distros. 
[02:19] <theacolyte> CentOS is pretty decent
[02:20] <Innatech> Yeah, it's nice to have it available. 
[02:20] <theacolyte> Burgwork: How is FDS? Never messed with it
[02:20] <Burgwork> not bad, well tested code
[02:20] <Burgwork> it is the old sun/netscape code
[02:20] <theacolyte> yeah
[02:20] <theacolyte> Does it do stuff like delegation, group policy, etc? It's been awhile
[02:21] <Burgwork> I honestly have no idea
[02:21] <Burgwork> I run OpenLDAP here, because it is supported on dapper
[02:22] <theacolyte> Got it
[02:22] <theacolyte> Oh, by the way, something I haven't looked into yet -- is there a OSS RADIUS server available in the standard repos?
[02:22] <Innatech> Oh, that's a good question. 
[02:24] <Burgwork> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?exact=0&searchon=names&version=all&case=insensitive&release=all&keywords=radius&arch=any
[02:24] <Burgwork> freeradius, by the looks of it
[02:24] <theacolyte> not bad then
[02:24] <Innatech> yup, that's what I'm finding too. 
[02:25] <theacolyte> I see krb5 so that makes me happy
[02:25] <Burgwork> ajmitch is working on an auth tool
[02:25] <Burgwork> make it easy to take an Ubuntu client and auth against either AD or LDAP
[02:25] <Burgwork> stratus: greetings
[02:26] <theacolyte> I'm in the process of setting up a totally OSS Cisco replacement for MARS, ACS, etc... since there's no way I can justify event corrolation, access control, etc to anyone in the company besides myself
[02:26] <theacolyte> Burgwork: that would be nice as hell. I'd love a distro that out of the box could auth against a domain a-la windows
[02:26] <Burgwork> SLEd can do it
[02:26] <stratus> Burgwork: thanks. howdy?
[02:26] <theacolyte> yeah but SLED is $
[02:26] <Burgwork> I was chatting with ajmitch, stratus
[02:27] <Burgwork> said you were a DD
[02:28] <stratus> Burgwork: oh great, I've read your name here and there.
[02:28] <stratus> Burgwork: nice to talk with  you
[02:28] <Burgwork> likewise
[02:29] <stratus> ajmitch: #315297 makes me nervous
[02:30] <stratus> Burgwork: hold on while i read your mugshot and pretend that I know your internet history track for ages. :)
[02:30] <stratus> Burgwork: do you watch bsg?
[02:30] <Burgwork> mugshot. RedHats answer to not having enough projects to work on
[02:30] <Burgwork> I do
[02:31] <Burgwork> though I have seen none of season 3
[02:31] <Innatech> I haven't seen much of 3 either. 
[02:31] <Burgwork> stratus: why does fds scare you?
[02:31] <stratus> I need to watch the last 3 episodes from season 3
[02:31] <stratus> Burgwork: that ITP opened for ages makes me nervous, nothing against fds though.
[02:32] <Burgwork> ah
[02:32] <stratus> I'm psyched with bsg and looking forward for caprica and/or the bsg movie DTV
[02:32] <Burgwork> given the ratings, I am worried about getting a 5th season
[02:32] <theacolyte> Alright all- I'll catch you later, going to go home, get some dinner with the wife, then get back to work... oh and maybe say hello to her for the first time in a few days... take it easy :)
[02:33] <stratus> I need to bug noel about pkg-fedora-ds in alioth.
[02:33] <Burgwork> doesn't alioth do gzr now?
[02:33] <Burgwork> I know the X team has a git repo
[02:33] <stratus> 5th season? noooo. There's just the 4th season confirmed for next year - 13 episodes.
[02:33] <Innatech> I think there will be a fifth season....I'm pretty sure they're working out how much everyone's going to get paid for it already.  Of course, it might get cancelled along the way if it stops doing well. 
[02:33] <stratus> we've <everything>.d.o
[02:34] <Burgwork> 22 hours for the 4th season, actually
[02:35] <Innatech> I read somewhere that a B5 miniseries is going into production. That might be interesting, if they don't mangle it too badly. 
[02:55] <ajmitch> afternoon
[02:55] <ajmitch> Burgwork: ah, mentioning my name again
[02:56] <Burgwork> of course
[02:57] <ajmitch> stratus: that ITP was open for ages for a reason
[02:57] <ajmitch> I've been talking with herzi
[02:58] <stratus> ajmitch: There's pkg-fedora-ds, and just noel and a NM on the team, and AFAIK they did nothing yet in any VCS.
[02:58] <ajmitch> noel & herzi (who owns the ITP_
[02:58] <ajmitch> last time I tried to join the team alioth was throwing a fit with the database :)
[02:58] <ajmitch> I should follow up on it
[03:01] <ajmitch> ok, resubmitted team request
[03:02] <stratus> great, let me know if they give you a status update
[03:03] <ajmitch> I expect it'll be the same as a few weeks ago (not much)
[03:06] <stratus> I'll give fds a try on some vservers and probably do initial packaging, but I doubt I'll have something really useful before 15 Apr. I'm heavily busy with Sacix release related stuff until there.
[03:06] <ajmitch> why 15 april? 
[03:08] <stratus> we will release between 11-15 apr. :)
[03:08] <ajmitch> even so it's far too late to get in :)
[03:09] <ajmitch> it'd be great if they ended up releasing on the same day :)
[03:09] <ajmitch> feisty is meant to be out on the 19th of april
[03:21] <stratus> we as in sacix, a etch based cdd
[03:22] <stratus> that would be great, yes
[03:22] <ajmitch> I'll hopefully have something useful for fds working before the 15th
[03:23] <ajmitch> depending on available time
[03:23] <ajmitch> as in, I have something now, it's just not too useful yet
[03:25] <stratus> oh, once you put your ubuntu (bzr?) feisty or feisty+1? based branch online i can also work on something usable for debian sid
[03:26] <ajmitch> hm, but I'm trying to make something that will work for sid as well 
[03:26] <ajmitch> no point restricting it
[03:26] <ajmitch> a few extra libraries will need to be uploaded to sid & feisty+1
[03:27] <ajmitch> (svrcore, mozilla ldap sdk)
[03:29] <stratus> sure
[03:29] <stratus> do you know if there's something simple to use over svrcore?
[03:30] <stratus> if yes, i can work on this or any other small component starting this week and upload it to experimental
[03:30] <ajmitch> not afaik
[03:30] <ajmitch> well I've got svrcore & mozldap packaged
[03:30] <stratus> i'll take a look on stuff like that tomorrow then.
[03:30] <stratus> oh, good.
[03:30] <stratus> push bzr branches!
[03:30] <ajmitch> :)
[03:32] <stratus> I'm not worried about debian sync, but I want to play with fds ASAP.
[03:32] <ajmitch> if it'll all work without hassles on etch, even better
[03:32] <ajmitch> right
[03:32] <stratus> It looks promising from a old school OpenLDAP user POV.
[04:27] <foo> Hm, anyone with dell hardware around that I spoke with last night? Or that just has dell hardware? ubuntu keeps hanging during install on the partition
[04:27] <foo> I'm trying to remotely help someone
[10:32] <jronnblom> hmm, I have a problem with snmpd in dapper and im beginning to think its a bug in the 5.2.1.2-4ubuntu2 package for amd64
[10:32] <fabbione> jronnblom: please file a bug in launchpad
[10:32] <jronnblom> im trying to but can't find my way in that site ;)
[10:33] <jronnblom>  Net-SNMP does not use Malone as its bug tracker.
[10:33] <jronnblom> To report a bug about Net-SNMP, please use its official bug tracker.
[10:33] <jronnblom> which is?
[10:34] <jronnblom> might be this im hitting, http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1259966&group_id=12694&atid=456380
[10:34] <fabbione> jronnblom: hold on a sec.. you are looking in the wrong place
[10:35] <fabbione> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-snmp
[10:35] <fabbione> this should work
[10:35] <fabbione> there is "Report a bug" somewhere in that page
[10:35] <jronnblom> ah, thank you
[10:56] <[miles] > morning guys
[11:31] <dballester> hi to all
[11:33] <ivoks> hi
[11:45] <shawarma> fabbione: re: https://launchpad.net/bugs/98518    I'm curious.. Why check for 10GB volumes?
[11:48] <fabbione> shawarma: oh i thought i fixed it in a later version but i might be wrong
[11:48] <fabbione> 10 GB is a special value.. the reported is right.. it needs to check for vendor too
[11:48] <shawarma> I just found this: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:hYfltnotmy8J:christophe.varoqui.free.fr/wiki/wakka.php%3Fwiki%3DTestedEnvironments%26show_comments%3D1+multipath-tools+sg_start&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=dk
[11:48] <fabbione> yes i know
[11:49] <fabbione> it's from where i took the data
[11:49] <fabbione> i have that SAN at home
[11:49] <shawarma> Ok. The configlet has vendor/device stuff in it. I thought that would take care of it.
[11:49] <fabbione> the configlet is for the multipathd config
[11:49] <fabbione> not the init.d script
[11:49] <fabbione> so it does need fixing
[11:55] <shawarma> I was thinking that sg_start was something from multipath-tools and hence would check the config.. I'm clearly on crack.
[11:55] <shawarma> and on a school night! Sheesh!
[11:56] <fabbione> yes you are on crack.... kthxbye
[11:57] <shawarma> :-)
[12:00] <fabbione> the tech explanation on why 10GB.. it's an hardware "feature" :)
[12:01] <fabbione> long to explain... if you don't have knowledge of a SAN and multipath active/active active/passive
[12:01] <fabbione> food time
[12:21] <shawarma> The reported size of the volume tells what role it plays in the SAN?
[12:21] <fabbione> no it's simply the way in which the HSG80 exports a passive path... call it a bug in the firmware :)
[12:21] <fabbione> it's just the way it has been done
[12:22] <shawarma> right, ok. I've only ever worked with HP's XP512's.
[12:26] <shawarma> They may have had similar weirdness. It was setup once and never really gave us any problems, so I've never really had to deal much with it.
[12:31] <fabbione> it's not really a matter of problems you hit, but configuration and redundancy you want to achieve in this case
[12:33] <shawarma> Sure. Stuff like that is just easier to remember the more you have to deal with it.
[02:46] <\sh> could it be that nfs4 support in dapper is not working as it should?
[03:09] <[miles] > guys I'm getting a CPU 1 : Machine Check Exception 4 Bank 3 : 000000000000000 TSC 0 Kernel Pacnic  - not syncing ....
[03:09] <[miles] > on a 6.06 LTS server
[03:10] <[miles] > never had a KP off an ubuntu server yet
[03:10] <[miles] > fucked CPU?
[03:17] <\sh> [miles] : looks like
[03:17] <\sh> [miles] : AMD 64bit cpu?
[03:17] <[miles] > aye
[03:17] <[miles] > well
[03:18] <\sh> well, cpu cache mem could be fcked up, too
[03:18] <[miles] > it's Pentium D Dual Core
[03:18] <\sh> cpu or cache mem I would guess
[03:55] <[miles] > aye
[03:55] <[miles] > I think it will be
[05:11] <[miles] > mmm every day, my cron.daily ntpdate script sends me a damn email
[05:12] <[miles] > no other cron.daily script does it except this one :-|
[05:33] <shawarma> [miles] : It's probably the only one generating any output.
[06:19] <dballester> hi again
[06:20] <dballester> ubuntu-server & iscsitarget, any .deb ? any tip? regards and TIA
[06:21] <Innatech> dballester: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213545
[06:22] <dballester> yet read :)
[06:23] <dballester> thanks in anyway :)
[06:24] <dballester> I undestand same process for Edgy, but seems that i will need to recompile each kernel update
[06:24] <dballester> :/
[06:24] <dballester> hope some day iscsitarget will be part of ubuntu server O:D
[07:13] <mralphabet> feisty and vmware don't really mix well ;(
[07:22] <mralphabet> fixed, stupid old /etc/vmware
[07:28] <mralphabet> still can't install tar version of vmware server though