[12:40] <brokenbin> hi
[12:40] <brokenbin> how come my computer always freezes when i am using the file manager?
[12:40] <brokenbin> whenever i browse to another harddrive
[12:41] <maxamillion> brokenbin: i'm not sure, i browse other hard drives all the time ... what version of xubuntu are you running?
[12:51] <TheSheep> maybe the hdd is broken?
[12:55] <pewee> i'm running xubuntu 6.10 and managed to install the nvidia drivers..but from time to time it freezes
[12:55] <pewee> anyone encountered the same issue maybe?
[01:01] <somerville32> TheSheep: #ubuntu-meeting
[01:33] <Dragoonboy> hi, anyone help with a mesa problem? I am trying to get beryl to run, but alas, I cant seem to get the mesa drivers not load...
[01:46] <crdlb> Dragoonboy, what video card?
[01:46] <Dragoonboy> ATI X1650 AV530LE (or something like that)
[01:47] <Dragoonboy> The ATI drivers are loaded... xfce works good
[01:47] <crdlb> fglrxinfo says?
[01:47] <Dragoonboy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:47] <Dragoonboy> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:47] <Dragoonboy> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:47] <Dragoonboy> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:47] <Dragoonboy> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[01:48] <crdlb> Dragoonboy, lsmod|grep fglrx
[01:48] <Dragoonboy> ok
[01:48] <crdlb> what does that say?
[01:48] <Dragoonboy> same thing
[01:49] <crdlb> Dragoonboy, that's what lsmod|grep fglrx says ?
[01:49] <Dragoonboy> oh
[01:49] <Dragoonboy> hango n
[01:49] <Dragoonboy> that dosnt return anything
[01:50] <crdlb> Dragoonboy, then: sudo modprobe fglrx
[01:51] <Dragoonboy> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[01:52] <Dragoonboy> thats prolly bad
[01:52] <crdlb> !ati
[01:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:54] <crdlb> Dragoonboy, try: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[01:54] <Dragoonboy> dont think I have tryed this yet... ill let you know
[01:55] <Dragoonboy> linux-generic is already the newest version.
[01:58] <crdlb> hmm, no idea
[01:58] <Dragoonboy> I did find the fglrx listed as disabled...
[01:58] <crdlb> Dragoonboy, oh, that might be a problem
[02:01] <Dragoonboy> so I removed fglrx from the linux-restricted-modules-common file and added a dynamic link. I have to reboot... i shall return
[02:02] <pdg37> hey, does anybody know if .Xmodmap is supposed to work automatically in xubuntu feisty? my settings there don't seem to get applied.
[02:08] <Dragoonboy> ok, so fglrxinfo returns the same thing...
[02:10] <Dragoonboy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0....... any idea why this line refers to Xfree86 and not xorg?
[02:11] <crdlb> probably because fglrx hasn't been updated since the fork
[02:11] <crdlb> (between xfree86 and xorg)
[02:12] <Dragoonboy> hmmm
[02:12] <Dragoonboy> does all the ubuntu's use xorg? or just Xubuntu?
[02:13] <crdlb> all the ubuntu's are 100% identical except for the desktop
[02:13] <crdlb> you can easily turn ubuntu into xubuntu for example by apt-get installing xubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <Dragoonboy> well I do not have ubuntu-desktop installed... should I install that (its hugue!)
[02:16] <crdlb> Dragoonboy, no, that was an example to show how the cores of the *ubuntus are the same
[02:17] <Dragoonboy> well, my delema is that 7.0.4 makes my wireless work.... but 6.10 does not. However all the documentation about ATI driver and beryl only cover the edgy installiation
[02:18] <ddfasdf> hey, I'm installing Xubuntu 7 and when I go through the hard disk installer it wont show my partition configuration, it only shows /dev/sda
[02:18] <ddfasdf> I already have a partition I want to install to
[02:18] <ddfasdf> I can fdisk as root and see the partitions but the installer wont
[02:19] <Dragoonboy> are you using the live CD?
[02:19] <ddfasdf> yes
[02:21] <ddfasdf> one second, I'll be right back, going to boot it
[02:21] <Dragoonboy> is there an ATI or fglrx channel?
[02:22] <crdlb> Dragoonboy, #ati
[02:22] <crdlb> (don't ask in #xorg, they'll get mad)
[02:22] <crdlb> :D
[02:24] <Dragoonboy> heh... I think I found it...
[02:24] <Dragoonboy> GART is not initialized, disabling DRI
[02:24] <Dragoonboy> I pulled this from xorg.0.log
[02:24] <Dragoonboy> what is GART (im gonna google it too)
[02:30] <asdfasdffdas> Hey, I'm in xubuntu right now, and the installer can't see my partitions on my hard drive. I can see them by fdisking as root, but the installer only sees /dev/sda
[02:31] <pewee> encountered that, like, twice
[02:31] <pewee> for me it worked with hardcore rebooting again and again, and poof
[02:31] <asdfasdffdas> hmm
[02:31] <Dragoonboy> are you looking for /dev/hda? I never saw it... I just used the installer and edited the partation
[02:31] <pewee> more of a workaround than a solution, but works for me
[02:32] <Dragoonboy> It said my drives were scsi too... and they are SO not.... but it works...
[02:32] <asdfasdffdas> I'm looking for partitions, but on the partition editor there are no partitions only the device /dev/sda and the option to create a new partition table
[02:32] <asdfasdffdas> I already have partitions for the OS and for swap, along with 2 ntfs file systems
[02:33] <asdfasdffdas> but the installer wont read them
[02:34] <pewee> mmh..anyone running a 8800 and feisty by any chance?
[02:34] <pewee> drivers are driving me crazy (no pun intended)
[02:35] <Dragoonboy> ASDF: Dont you have an option to manualy edit the partation table?
[02:35] <asdfasdffdas> thats the screen I'm on
[02:35] <asdfasdffdas> after I selected manual partition editing I have one item in the menu "/dev/sda"
[02:36] <asdfasdffdas> I can see all my partitions through fdisk, though
[02:37] <asdfasdffdas> however I can only see them through fdisk as root, is there a way to run the installer as root or login as root?
[02:38] <asdfasdffdas> I'm not very concerned about security atm
[02:38] <Dragoonboy> did you write the partatino tabe in fdisk?
[02:38] <asdfasdffdas> no, just printed it
[02:38] <Dragoonboy> gotta reboot... brb
[02:38] <asdfasdffdas> the partition table shouldn't need to be written at all
[02:38] <asdfasdffdas> the partitions I'm using are already in place and formatted
[02:39] <asdfasdffdas> they just dont show up in the installer
[02:46] <Dragoonboy> ok, none of that worked... I still get the same output from fglrxinfo
[02:50] <dfeesd> Installer still wont see partitions, I can see them through fdisk, need help
[02:53] <Dragoonboy> are you using the GUI installer? or the text?
[02:53] <dfeesd> gui
[02:53] <dfeesd> there's a text installer?
[02:55] <Dragoonboy> yeah, its on the desktop of the liveCD
[02:55] <dfeesd> the install icon starts the gui
[02:55] <dfeesd> how do I specify command line?
[02:58] <Dragoonboy> hmmm you can do it when you start the CD (its the second or third item)
[02:58] <dfeesd> k, I'll try that
[03:08] <Dragoonboy> if I dont see fglrx in lsmod how do I make it go there?
[03:10] <crdlb> sudo modprobe fglrx
[03:10] <crdlb> but that isn't working
[03:14] <Dragoonboy> hmmm
[03:15] <Dragoonboy> gggrrr
[03:16] <gfdfgdfds> installer still wont see partitions and there's no option for cli install
[04:06] <cycro> hello
[04:07] <cycro> i have xubuntu installed
[04:07] <cycro> and i installed windows xp on a separate partition
[04:08] <cycro> now it auto boots to xp
[04:08] <cycro> how do i fix grub?
[04:08] <sigmamu188> !grub
[04:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:11] <sigmamu188> type "gksudo mousepad /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[04:11] <sigmamu188> into terminal
[04:11] <sigmamu188> and you cand edit there
[04:11] <sigmamu188> use the second link provided aboce
[04:11] <sigmamu188> above
[04:13] <boris55> is there going to be a 7.04 release of xubuntu?
[04:14] <sigmamu188> boris55: the beta is out now from what i read about
[04:14] <sigmamu188> about =  above
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> yes, it is
[04:14] <sigmamu188> http://www.xubuntu.com/news/feisty_beta
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> Final release is expected towards the end of April
[04:14] <boris55> ok, I'll check it out.  still one of my favorite distros, stupid girlfriend made me wipe it out for vista.
[04:14] <sigmamu188> SWEET
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> (19th-ish, or within a week or two of that)
[04:15] <sigmamu188> you cant dual boot with vista?
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> boris55: Time for a new one
[04:15] <sigmamu188> tonyyarusso: how stable is the beta?
[04:15] <sigmamu188> any clue?
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> sigmamu188: Varies.  I had issues with video drivers making X consume _huge_ amounts of CPU, but that seems to have been fixed now.  (I've been running Feisty since before the first alpha, only a few significant issues)
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> !beta
[04:16] <ubotu> Download Feisty Fawn Beta at http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04, read release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta and upgrade instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades; consider doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing; Just because it's almost ready doesn't mean it is - final releases happen when they do for a reason, be warned and prepared for unbootable systems.
[04:17] <sigmamu188> tonyyarusso: what vid card?
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> sigmamu188: ATI Radeon Mobility X/M300
[04:18] <boris55> I can't wait.  end of april means cheap cpu power, cheap memory and a new os.
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> Why cheap cpu power and memory?
[04:18] <sigmamu188> tonyyarusso: is there a knows issue page?
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> sigmamu188: launchpad.net ;)
[04:18] <boris55> amd has a price drop coming april 9 on all am2 processors
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> Not really
[04:19] <boris55> intel has new core 2 duos coming out on 4/22
[04:19] <sigmamu188> boris55: i cant wait!!!
[04:19] <boris55> since xubuntu screams on my slow processor and limited memory, then a processor upgrade will be insane
[04:20] <boris55> dump the girlfriend get more processing power...
[04:43] <ron_o> core2duo is simply great.
[04:44] <a-u-51> im trying to configure x to get my volume buttons to work, anyone know what option xkbmodel i should use, or where to find out what identifier to use
[04:44] <a-u-51> volume buttons on my keyboard...
[04:47] <ron_o> a-u-51-  I saw a gentoo wiki on how to set your keys to do just about anything. But I ca
[04:47] <ron_o> ahh, he left..
[04:47] <ron_o> oh well.
[04:48] <ron_o> 'people are jerks. Like if they don't get an answer in one minute or less then who cares. :(
[04:49] <boris55> dang, I was hoping to get an answer.
[05:00] <iosdfjdosi> hi all
[05:00] <iosdfjdosi> xubuntu is awesome!
[05:01] <iosdfjdosi> hi kalikiana
[05:02] <kalikiana> hi iosdfjdosi
[05:02] <kalikiana> wow, a weird name you have.
[05:02] <iosdfjdosi> yea
[05:02] <iosdfjdosi> yea i know
[05:02] <kalikiana> does it have any hidden meaning?
[05:03] <iosdfjdosi> no
[05:03] <iosdfjdosi> i wish
[05:03] <iosdfjdosi> :D
[05:04] <kalikiana> So does that mean you did not feel like entering a name at all?
[05:04] <iosdfjdosi> yea
[05:04] <iosdfjdosi> couldnt think of any name to put
[05:04] <iosdfjdosi> i just pressed random leters in the keyboard
[05:05] <iosdfjdosi> is kalikiana your name?
[05:06] <kalikiana> Actually, as my whois would tell you, it is a nickname.
[05:06] <kalikiana> It is Hawaiian for Christian, my first name.
[05:06] <iosdfjdosi> ah
[05:06] <iosdfjdosi> kalikiana sounded like a girl's name
[05:08] <kalikiana> About once a month someone says that. What should I even assume looking at your name? :P
[05:08] <iosdfjdosi> hehehehe
[05:08] <kalikiana> Many people don't event know that for example Italian has many "confusing" names, like Andrea.
[05:09] <iosdfjdosi> yea
[05:09] <iosdfjdosi> Andrea is a guy name
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> iosdfjdosi: That was my roommate's brother's name
[05:10] <iosdfjdosi> hehehehe
[05:10] <iosdfjdosi> really
[05:22] <Adi> !grub
[05:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:28] <brokenbin> what's the command to format a harddrive?
[05:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> `mkfs`
[05:30] <brokenbin> that's it?
[05:30] <brokenbin> don't i need to specify the fs?
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> well, 'man mkfs' for details
[05:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You didn't exactly include all the details of how you wanted it formatted. :p
[05:31] <brokenbin> do i need to delete the existing partition?
[05:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> No, you can overwrite a partition.
[05:32] <a-u-51> qeustion- how to make volume button on keyboard faster, takes forever to increase or decrease volume
[05:32] <brokenbin> so mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hd... would work?
[05:33] <a-u-51> fine in kde though
[05:33] <a-u-51> f keyboard button and make a hotkey?
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> gpocentek: You around?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> gpocentek: Thought I'd poke you to take a look at bug 97697
[05:45] <ubotu> Malone bug 97697 in orage "Panel icon doesn't display current date" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97697
[05:55] <sigmamu188> a-u-51: if you have a wheel mouse just put you pointer over the volume icon and scroll up and down with the wheel
[05:56] <sigmamu188> oops i guess he is gone
[05:56] <sigmamu188> i should learn to read the chat log
[05:58] <sigmamu188> dose konversation support spell checking? and if so how do i enable it?
[05:59] <sigmamu188> or am i better off with Xchat?
[06:01] <sigmamu188> never mind
[06:02] <sigmamu188> answered my own question
[06:07] <sigmamu188> send
[06:07] <sigmamu188> oops
[06:07] <sigmamu188> wrong window
[06:17] <j1mc> dell is going to do desktop linux, but no word on the distro yet.  http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8436091466.html
[06:19] <sigmamu188> j1mc:  any word how much they are going to charge for the privilege?
[06:19] <j1mc> hehe . . . no.  i've just seen that article is all.
[06:20] <sigmamu188> j1mc:  besides they wouldn't even send me a new motherboard when my XPS fried they wanted me to mail my computer back to them and pay shipping both ways they suck at customer support
[06:21] <j1mc> well, forget them, then.  i'm buying an HP.  ;-)
[06:21] <j1mc> wait, i already did.  :)
[06:22] <sigmamu188> j1mc:  lol, atleast they are admiting to community support
[06:22] <j1mc> yeah . . . and they're going to give preference to free drivers.
[06:22] <sigmamu188> j1mc:  i would rather be talking to #xubuntu on freenode that to dell anyday
[06:23] <j1mc> :-)  me, too, sigmamu188
[06:23] <sigmamu188> j1mc:  all about the free drivers, its a really good concept though i want to get a toughbook and run linux on it, not sure a bout any compatibility issues though
[06:24] <j1mc> sigmamu188, me neither.  there's a site, though . . . linux on laptops, where you can search different makes and models.
[06:24] <j1mc> people report how linux ran on their different laptops...
[06:27] <sigmamu188> www.linux-on-laptops.com
[06:27] <sigmamu188> cool
[06:28] <sigmamu188> j1mc: thanks for the tip they actuallu have toughbook reviews, no ubuntu or xubuntu though
[06:28] <sigmamu188> j1mc:  maybe ill be the first. who knows
[06:29] <j1mc> sigmamu188, :-)  yeah, if the other distros give good results, then xubuntu likely will, too.
[06:29] <sigmamu188> j1mc:  amen to that
[06:29] <j1mc> at some level, it's just a matter of linux compatibility.
[06:32] <sigmamu188> j1mc:  im still kinda new to linux, almost a year since i frist started, the first distro was DSL on a flash drive I highly reccomend to to everyone
[06:32] <sigmamu188> DSL = Danm Small Linux
[06:32] <j1mc> :-)  i've heard good things about DSL.
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> DSL didn't detect my ethernet card
[07:03] <cycro> hello
[07:03] <cycro> !grub
[07:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:03] <cycro> i tried some of the suggestions in the first link
[07:03] <cycro> but now i cant boot into windows
[07:05] <cycro> any ideas on how i can fix?
[07:05] <grazie> cycro: do you an error message? have you made any changes?
[07:05] <grazie> you get*
[07:06] <cycro> well
[07:06] <cycro> i had ubuntu installed
[07:06] <cycro> rather, xubuntu
[07:06] <cycro> then i installed xp
[07:06] <cycro> and it would only boot in xp
[07:06] <cycro> then i reinstalled grub
[07:06] <cycro> now it only boots in xubuntu
[07:11] <grazie> cycro: you don't get the option to boot xp?
[07:11] <cycro> no
[07:12] <cycro> if i hit esc within the 3 seconds it gives me
[07:12] <cycro> it shows me a menu
[07:12] <cycro> with everything but windows xp
[07:14] <grazie> cycro: do you know which partition xp is on?
[07:16] <cycro> yes
[07:16] <cycro> grazie, sda1
[07:17] <grazie> cycro: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[07:17] <cycro> k
[07:17] <grazie> !pastebin
[07:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:19] <cycro> grazie, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12722/
[07:23] <cycro> mm
[07:23] <grazie> cycro: I've added xp. give it a try. Spend most of my time on a mac so I'm no grub expert
[07:24] <cycro> ok thx
[07:24] <cycro> where did u add it?
[07:25] <grazie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12722/
[07:25] <grazie> refresh page
[07:25] <grazie> at the end
[07:25] <cycro> i dont see it
[07:26] <grazie> cycro: try >> http://pastebin.ca/414683
[07:26] <cycro> ok got it
[07:27] <cycro> brb while i try
[07:33] <cycro> grazie, thank you
[07:33] <grazie> np
[07:33] <grazie> xp ok?
[07:33] <cycro> yes
[07:33] <cycro> another question
[07:33] <cycro> do u know how i can boot up that xp partition thru vmware?
[07:34] <grazie> never done that no, but I believe it is possible
[07:35] <cycro> ive been reading some things on the net, but its quite confusing
[07:35] <grazie> prolly yes
[07:35] <cycro> gar
[07:38] <cycro> alright its late
[07:38] <cycro> im off
[07:38] <cycro> bye
[07:38] <cycro> thx again
[07:38] <grazie> see ya
[08:46] <intelikey> xterm help ?  can't get fonts big enough to read  ?
[09:52] <salomo_> good morning
[10:01] <salomo_> how can i start my wlan0? without that "networking"
[10:03] <salomo_> sry...stop ;)
[10:10] <kumamoto> ifdown wlan0
[10:10] <salomo_> i founded ^^ thx
[10:11] <salomo_> but it not works...but i read the manual...ill be back :p
[10:19] <kumamoto> ifconfig wlan0 down
[10:29] <salomo_> if i want to start the wlan0 with "sudo ifup wlan0" i get the message "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device"
[11:46] <kalikiana> Where do I change the time in Xubuntu again? I can't remember...
[11:46] <mpnoibuv> how do I force quit a program?
[11:47] <Arkh> kalikiana, Applications -- System -- Time and Date
[11:48] <Arkh> mpnoibuv, killall <name of the program>
[11:50] <kalikiana> Arkh, Thank you. Now that I see it it should've been obvious. :)
[11:51] <Arkh> :D
[12:32] <grazie> Are there any reasons why an upgraded edgy to feisty takes significantly more disk space than a clean feisty install? Of the order 400/500mb
[12:35] <Arkh> grazie, maybe there are still your edgy packages
[12:35] <Arkh> try doing a du -hs /var/cache/apt/
[12:36] <Arkh> mine is 388 MB
[12:36] <grazie> Arkh: ok thanks for that info
[12:36] <Arkh> I'm not sure but I think it could be possible
[12:37] <gpocentek> tonyyarusso: I'll report the bug upstream later today (I don't have time right now)
[01:09] <mpnoibuv> arkh: belated thankyou for killall
[01:14] <mpnoibuv> running feisty - whenever I try and open the terminal my screen goes black, then some white text appears talking about starting various things like printing systems etc and running local boot scripts and after a few seconds it goes to the login screen.
[01:38] <Arkh> mpnoibuv, does your X server works?
[01:38] <Arkh> did you try to install things like compiz or beryl?
[01:39] <mpnoibuv> xserver crashes when I open the terminal
[01:39] <Arkh> mmm very weird..
[01:39] <mpnoibuv> what are compiz and beryl?
[01:39] <Arkh> they are some eye candy programs
[01:40] <Arkh> since they mss up with the X server
[01:40] <Arkh> I thought it was something related
[01:40] <mpnoibuv> no i don't have them
[01:49] <grazie> mpnoibuv: what video card are you using?
[02:02] <mpnoibuv> Trio 64 3D
[02:04] <grazie> mpnoibuv: not familiar with that card. have you tried using vesa and doing the same?
[02:04] <mpnoibuv> what is vesa?
[02:04] <grazie> !vesa
[02:04] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[02:05] <grazie> !x
[02:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:06] <mpnoibuv> everything works fine until I try and open the terminal from the xfce menu
[02:08] <grazie> mpnoibuv: can you boot into restore mode ok?
[02:09] <mpnoibuv> I haven't tried that
[02:09] <grazie> mpnoibuv: also have you picked up the latest updates?
[02:09] <mpnoibuv> yes
[02:09] <mpnoibuv> how do I change the driver to vesa?
[02:10] <grazie> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Try the restore boot first
[02:16] <grazie> Arkh: not convinced by that 388mb of edgy packages. Something must wrong somewhere. I've got a clean edgy to feisty upgrade taking 2.2G after removing some big packages!
[02:16] <Arkh> mhmm
[03:09] <angela__75> hello there, I'm experiencing a very bad fonts visualization (feisty) , I tried with elisanet repositories and with dpkg-reconfigure fontsconfig-...
[06:37] <j1mc> hi all . . .
[06:39] <g4h> yo
[06:44] <j1mc> hi g4
[06:45] <j1mc> or, g4h . . . :-)
[06:46] <g4h> ok, this is starting to perturb me. does fusesmb show up in synaptic for anyone else?
[06:58] <j1mc> g4h . . . sounds like it's missing for you?
[07:02] <g4h> yep
[07:03] <j1mc> g4h . . . all your repos set up?
[07:03] <g4h> so it claims
[07:04] <j1mc> . . . its in universe . . .   and you're sure that you're typing "fusesmb"  ?  :-)
[07:07] <g4h> quite.
[07:09] <j1mc> g4h . . . are you on dapper?
[07:10] <g4h> i was. it wasnt showing up on there either. i'm on edgy now
[07:10] <j1mc> oh, it's only in the repos for edgy and feisty.
[07:11] <g4h> and since i made the switch, i'm assuming that something in my repos didnt catch up
[07:12] <j1mc> hmmm . . .   i'm not sure.
[07:12] <j1mc> i would check your /etc/apt/sources.list . . .   it would be helpful to know for sure . . .
[07:12] <g4h> >.<
[07:12] <g4h> just did
[07:13] <g4h> somehow they got switched back to dapper....wth
[07:14] <j1mc> woah, that's weird.
[07:14] <j1mc> g4h:  hehehe
[07:14] <j1mc> well, at least you found the problem.  :-)
[07:15] <g4h> that remains to be seen *searches for fusesmb again*
[07:15] <j1mc> did you "sudo apt-get update" first?  :-)
[07:16] <g4h> i reloaded from synaptic
[07:17] <j1mc> oh . . . ok.
[07:22] <g4h> \o/
[07:22] <j1mc> good news?
[07:22] <g4h> yeah it came up
[07:22] <j1mc> :-)  xubuntu ftw!
[07:23] <j1mc> ok . . .  i gtg.
[08:34] <kkzilla> hey guys there's a few packages i'm having problems installing like apache 1.x and mysql 4.x where the installer wants gnome... using synaptic, it hangs... how to get aroudn this
[09:07] <Buddha|> Is there a PPC version of Xubuntu?
[09:14] <somerville32> I believe so, yes.
[09:17] <Buddha|> Nevermind, I found it.  It's Edgy, though.  No Feisty version as of yet, it seems.
[09:18] <somerville32> Interesting. One second.
[09:18] <somerville32> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/feisty/beta/
[09:18] <somerville32> Tada :D
[09:24] <Buddha|> Ooh, Thanks!
[09:24] <Buddha|> I've got a G3 iMac I'm trying to get up and running.
[09:26] <somerville32> :)
[09:27] <Buddha|> I think the screen on it is bad, though.
[09:29] <somerville32> Ugh oh : (
[09:52] <spasticteapot> Hello!
[09:52] <spasticteapot> Anyone know where the Xubuntu Feisty ISO is?
[09:52] <somerville32> I sure do!
[09:52] <somerville32> Do you want the Feisty Beta?
[09:52] <somerville32> Or today's build
[09:55] <spasticteapot> Er...whichever one is least likely to go boom when I install it.
[09:55] <spasticteapot> I'm not a Linux expert - I've used it for a few months as my primary OS, though.
[09:56] <spasticteapot> I could'nt get any wifi managers to work, so I had to use IWconfig for everything.
[09:56] <somerville32> What platform?
[09:56] <spasticteapot> IBM wiped the drive when they fixed my Thinkpad, though, so it's re-install time!
[09:56] <spasticteapot> Intel. 1ghz Pentium M.
[09:56] <spasticteapot> CPU throttling or bust.
[09:57] <somerville32> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/beta/
[09:58] <spasticteapot> Thanks!
[09:58] <spasticteapot> Downloading now.
[09:59] <spasticteapot> :)
[10:01] <spasticteapot> Finally...things might actually RUN!
[10:01] <spasticteapot> Also...anyone else notice that Windows Vista seems a lot like Enlightenment or KDE, but a lot slower.
[10:02] <spasticteapot> Tried it a day or two ago. My 1ghz Pentium-M with Intel Integrated felt more responsive than his dual-core e6300 with ATI X1800.
[10:02] <spasticteapot> I run Xubuntu, he runs Vista.
[10:02] <spasticteapot> And he's not even set up with an antivirus yet.
[10:07] <spasticteapot> Hello?
[10:10] <somerville32> lol
[10:11] <spasticteapot> Sad, but true.
[10:11] <somerville32> When I first tried Vista I noticed it looked a lot like KDE too
[10:11] <spasticteapot> Yes...but buggier.
[10:11] <somerville32> hehe
[10:11] <spasticteapot> At least when a Linux program works, it STAYS working. No mysterious DLL-related corruption.
[10:12] <somerville32> Yeah, I have a windows xp laptop next to me that is suffering from the mysterious dll-related corruption and nothing network-related works. at all.
[10:13] <somerville32> And you have to really dig in before it starts giving error messages.
[10:13] <somerville32> Most of the time it just does nothing
[10:13] <somerville32> lol
[10:15] <spasticteapot> Eh...I kept getting BSODs.
[10:15] <spasticteapot> Everyone says "Linux is so hard to use!"
[10:15] <spasticteapot> Heck, I had more compatibility under Linux than I did with windows.
[10:15] <spasticteapot> The wireless on/off button worked!
[10:17] <somerville32> I know what you mean.
[10:17] <somerville32> Wireless is shot on the Windows 2000 install
[10:17] <somerville32> I popped in live cd and I had a network connection when I booted. <g>
[10:19] <spasticteapot> The problem is when it won't work even when you install the drivers.
[10:37] <hyper_ch> hiho
[10:49] <somerville32> hiyo
[10:58] <hyper_ch> somerville32: http://www.howtoforge.com/dvd_images_of_ubuntu_repositories
[10:59] <killsalad> hi all
[10:59] <brokenbin> how come whenever i am trying to access my other harddrive, my file manager freezes up?
[11:00] <brokenbin> is there a bug with the system?
[11:02] <somerville32> hyper_ch, cool :)
[11:02] <somerville32> brokenbin, there might be. Is the harddrive mounted?
[11:02] <brokenbin> yes
[11:02] <brokenbin> as ext3
[11:02] <hyper_ch> somerville32: that's what I thought... I saw a few times that someone asked to to make their own repo dvd :)
[11:04] <brokenbin> somerville32: any idea?
[11:04] <somerville32> One second.
[11:05] <hyper_ch> brokenbin: maybe the harddrive is wrecked
[11:05] <brokenbin> wrecked?
[11:05] <hyper_ch> brokenbin: how did you mount it?
[11:05] <brokenbin> sftab
[11:05] <hyper_ch> brokenbin: broken, bad sectors, .....
[11:06] <brokenbin> ok...
[11:06] <brokenbin> what can i do?
[11:06] <hyper_ch> brokenbin: that was just a possible explanation
[11:07] <hyper_ch> is any important data on that drive/partition=?
[11:07] <brokenbin> yes
[11:07] <brokenbin> like all my files
[11:07] <brokenbin> it worked under fedora
[11:07] <brokenbin> and i have formatted it yesterday
[11:07] <hyper_ch> how do you mount it?
[11:07] <brokenbin> fstab
[11:08] <hyper_ch> well, that's not how but sort of "where"... how is the command used
[11:08] <hyper_ch> please pastebin that
[11:08] <hyper_ch> and also the output of   sudo fdisk -l
[11:08] <brokenbin> ok, hold on
[11:09] <brokenbin> /dev/hdd1	/files		ext3 defaults	0	0
[11:10] <brokenbin> Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
[11:10] <brokenbin> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
[11:10] <brokenbin> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[11:10] <brokenbin>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:10] <brokenbin> /dev/hda1   *           1        4725    37953531   83  Linux
[11:10] <brokenbin> /dev/hda2            4726        4865     1124550    5  Extended
[11:10] <brokenbin> /dev/hda5            4726        4865     1124518+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:10] <brokenbin> Disk /dev/hdb: 4223 MB, 4223729664 bytes
[11:10] <brokenbin> 128 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1023 cylinders
[11:10] <maxamillion> !flood
[11:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:10] <brokenbin> Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 = 4128768 bytes
[11:10] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | brokenbin
[11:10] <ubotu> brokenbin: please see above
[11:10] <brokenbin>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:10] <brokenbin> /dev/hdb1               2        1023     4120704    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[11:10] <brokenbin> Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
[11:10] <brokenbin>      phys=(1021, 127, 63) logical=(1022, 127, 63)
[11:10] <brokenbin> /dev/hdb5               2        1023     4120672+   b  W95 FAT32
[11:10] <brokenbin> Disk /dev/hdd: 6448 MB, 6448619520 bytes
[11:10] <brokenbin> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 784 cylinders
[11:10] <brokenbin> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[11:10] <brokenbin>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:10] <brokenbin> /dev/hdd1   *           1         784     6297448+  83  Linux
[11:10] <brokenbin> root@localhost:~#
[11:12] <brokenbin> sorry about the flood
[11:12] <maxamillion> !pastebin | brokenbin
[11:12] <ubotu> brokenbin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:12] <somerville32> np :)
[11:12] <maxamillion> brokenbin: its ok
[11:12] <maxamillion> brokenbin: just please use pastebin for long pastes like that one
[11:12] <brokenbin> ok
[11:12] <hyper_ch> rule of thumb 3 lines or more --> pastebin
[11:12] <brokenbin> i didn't know there was a pastebin
[11:12] <brokenbin> lol
[11:12] <hyper_ch> there are many
[11:13] <hyper_ch> I personally prefer www.phpfi.com
[11:13] <hyper_ch> as you can set keywords (like your nickname) and later search for that again :9
[11:13] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: nice! ... i'll have to remember that one
[11:13] <hyper_ch> the original one is www.pastebin.org  --> however that has become quite slow
[11:16] <brokenbin> http://phpfi.com/221429
[11:16] <brokenbin> there it is
[11:18] <hyper_ch> hmmm, I don't see anything wrong
[11:18] <brokenbin> too many files maybe?
[11:18] <hyper_ch> please pastebin the output of     ls -al /files
[11:22] <brokenbin> hold on, my interet is slow now
[11:23] <brokenbin> http://phpfi.com/221430
[11:24] <hyper_ch> ah I see
[11:25] <hyper_ch> the files are being mounted as root user
[11:25] <hyper_ch> the simplest solution would be to chown them :)
[11:25] <brokenbin> what's wrong with that?
[11:25] <brokenbin> it freezes even when i am running as root
[11:26] <brokenbin> i can still open files from it
[11:26] <brokenbin> but not under file manager
[11:26] <hyper_ch> you don't want to run as root
[11:27] <hyper_ch> under which file manager?
[11:27] <brokenbin> im only running as root now
[11:27] <brokenbin> thunar
[11:27] <hyper_ch> does thunar run as root?
[11:27] <brokenbin> i think so
[11:27] <hyper_ch> you think so or you know?
[11:27] <brokenbin> it even says at the top, you are running as root, you may damage your system
[11:30] <hyper_ch> I just tend to think it's not all running as root
[11:31] <brokenbin> what can i do to make it so?
[11:32] <hyper_ch> you shouldn't run as root in first place
[11:33] <brokenbin> i am only running as root now because i need the access to some files
[11:34] <hyper_ch> root is a no-go
[11:34] <brokenbin> samething under my other username
[11:35] <hyper_ch> under the other username it's clear... because it's not chowned correctly
[11:35] <brokenbin> and i do use that username under all other curcumstances
[11:36] <brokenbin> hold on, let me try something
[11:36] <brokenbin> brb
[12:19] <rici> here's a puzzler: when i type a subject line in thunderbird, xorg starts taking up 98% CPU time, and the response is noticeably sluggish. It doesn't happen in the body of the message, and it's less in the to: and cc: bars. Could this have something to do with my font settings?