=== brokenbin [n=brokenbi@bas3-toronto06-1177890151.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [12:40] hi [12:40] how come my computer always freezes when i am using the file manager? [12:40] whenever i browse to another harddrive [12:41] brokenbin: i'm not sure, i browse other hard drives all the time ... what version of xubuntu are you running? === vorian_ [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === vorian__ [n=vorian@cpe-76-181-146-41.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu === vorian__ [n=vorian@cpe-76-181-146-41.columbus.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:51] maybe the hdd is broken? [12:55] i'm running xubuntu 6.10 and managed to install the nvidia drivers..but from time to time it freezes [12:55] anyone encountered the same issue maybe? === WhiteRose [n=djb@user-12l2tg3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:01] TheSheep: #ubuntu-meeting === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.222.49.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Dragoonboy [n=jry@74-140-192-142.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #Xubuntu [01:33] hi, anyone help with a mesa problem? I am trying to get beryl to run, but alas, I cant seem to get the mesa drivers not load... [01:46] Dragoonboy, what video card? [01:46] ATI X1650 AV530LE (or something like that) [01:47] The ATI drivers are loaded... xfce works good [01:47] fglrxinfo says? [01:47] Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". [01:47] display: :0.0 screen: 0 [01:47] OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org [01:47] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect [01:47] OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2) [01:48] Dragoonboy, lsmod|grep fglrx [01:48] ok [01:48] what does that say? === crdlb is terrible at troubleshooting fglrx btw [01:48] same thing === Dragoonboy is greatful becasue your the only one helping [01:49] Dragoonboy, that's what lsmod|grep fglrx says ? [01:49] oh [01:49] hango n [01:49] that dosnt return anything [01:50] Dragoonboy, then: sudo modprobe fglrx [01:51] FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory [01:52] thats prolly bad [01:52] !ati [01:52] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:54] Dragoonboy, try: sudo apt-get install linux-generic [01:54] dont think I have tryed this yet... ill let you know [01:55] linux-generic is already the newest version. [01:58] hmm, no idea [01:58] I did find the fglrx listed as disabled... === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has left #xubuntu [] [01:58] Dragoonboy, oh, that might be a problem [02:01] so I removed fglrx from the linux-restricted-modules-common file and added a dynamic link. I have to reboot... i shall return [02:02] hey, does anybody know if .Xmodmap is supposed to work automatically in xubuntu feisty? my settings there don't seem to get applied. === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-176-227.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === Dragoonboy [n=jry@74-140-192-142.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === B|nTaRa [n=Unknowne@wbb128.fwa5.jaring.my] has joined #xubuntu [02:08] ok, so fglrxinfo returns the same thing... === Arkh [n=arkham@62.152.122.140] has joined #xubuntu [02:10] Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0....... any idea why this line refers to Xfree86 and not xorg? [02:11] probably because fglrx hasn't been updated since the fork [02:11] (between xfree86 and xorg) [02:12] hmmm [02:12] does all the ubuntu's use xorg? or just Xubuntu? [02:13] all the ubuntu's are 100% identical except for the desktop [02:13] you can easily turn ubuntu into xubuntu for example by apt-get installing xubuntu-desktop [02:14] well I do not have ubuntu-desktop installed... should I install that (its hugue!) [02:16] Dragoonboy, no, that was an example to show how the cores of the *ubuntus are the same === ddfasdf [n=asdf@S01060050bac94b86.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:17] well, my delema is that 7.0.4 makes my wireless work.... but 6.10 does not. However all the documentation about ATI driver and beryl only cover the edgy installiation [02:18] hey, I'm installing Xubuntu 7 and when I go through the hard disk installer it wont show my partition configuration, it only shows /dev/sda [02:18] I already have a partition I want to install to [02:18] I can fdisk as root and see the partitions but the installer wont [02:19] are you using the live CD? [02:19] yes [02:21] one second, I'll be right back, going to boot it [02:21] is there an ATI or fglrx channel? === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu [02:22] Dragoonboy, #ati [02:22] (don't ask in #xorg, they'll get mad) [02:22] :D === vorian_ [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu [02:24] heh... I think I found it... [02:24] GART is not initialized, disabling DRI [02:24] I pulled this from xorg.0.log [02:24] what is GART (im gonna google it too) === asdfasdffdas [n=ubuntu@S01060050bac94b86.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu === asdfasdffdas [n=ubuntu@S01060050bac94b86.cg.shawcable.net] has left #xubuntu [] === asdfasdffdas [n=ubuntu@S01060050bac94b86.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:30] Hey, I'm in xubuntu right now, and the installer can't see my partitions on my hard drive. I can see them by fdisking as root, but the installer only sees /dev/sda [02:31] encountered that, like, twice [02:31] for me it worked with hardcore rebooting again and again, and poof [02:31] hmm [02:31] are you looking for /dev/hda? I never saw it... I just used the installer and edited the partation [02:31] more of a workaround than a solution, but works for me [02:32] It said my drives were scsi too... and they are SO not.... but it works... [02:32] I'm looking for partitions, but on the partition editor there are no partitions only the device /dev/sda and the option to create a new partition table [02:32] I already have partitions for the OS and for swap, along with 2 ntfs file systems [02:33] but the installer wont read them === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [02:34] mmh..anyone running a 8800 and feisty by any chance? [02:34] drivers are driving me crazy (no pun intended) [02:35] ASDF: Dont you have an option to manualy edit the partation table? [02:35] thats the screen I'm on [02:35] after I selected manual partition editing I have one item in the menu "/dev/sda" [02:36] I can see all my partitions through fdisk, though [02:37] however I can only see them through fdisk as root, is there a way to run the installer as root or login as root? [02:38] I'm not very concerned about security atm [02:38] did you write the partatino tabe in fdisk? [02:38] no, just printed it === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu [02:38] gotta reboot... brb [02:38] the partition table shouldn't need to be written at all [02:38] the partitions I'm using are already in place and formatted [02:39] they just dont show up in the installer === T` [i=total@gateway/tor/x-9985ef7f22cd79e3] has joined #xubuntu === Dragoonboy [n=jry@74-140-192-142.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:46] ok, none of that worked... I still get the same output from fglrxinfo === dfeesd [n=ubuntu@S01060050bac94b86.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:50] Installer still wont see partitions, I can see them through fdisk, need help [02:53] are you using the GUI installer? or the text? [02:53] gui [02:53] there's a text installer? [02:55] yeah, its on the desktop of the liveCD [02:55] the install icon starts the gui [02:55] how do I specify command line? [02:58] hmmm you can do it when you start the CD (its the second or third item) [02:58] k, I'll try that === dfeesd [n=ubuntu@S01060050bac94b86.cg.shawcable.net] has left #xubuntu [] === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:08] if I dont see fglrx in lsmod how do I make it go there? [03:10] sudo modprobe fglrx [03:10] but that isn't working === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.53] has joined #xubuntu [03:14] hmmm === gfdfgdfds [n=ubuntu@S01060050bac94b86.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:15] gggrrr [03:16] installer still wont see partitions and there's no option for cli install === vorian_ [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === jwheeler [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === flubber [n=administ@cpe-075-181-033-117.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === jwheeler is now known as sigmamu188 === flubber [n=administ@cpe-075-181-033-117.carolina.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === cycro [n=robert@CPE0040f4d45ca8-CM00195ee63a94.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:06] hello [04:07] i have xubuntu installed [04:07] and i installed windows xp on a separate partition [04:08] now it auto boots to xp [04:08] how do i fix grub? [04:08] !grub [04:08] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto === boris55 [n=richards@12.76.215.83] has joined #xubuntu === unikum^ [n=unikum@c-3ecde455.128-17-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu [04:11] type "gksudo mousepad /boot/grub/menu.lst" [04:11] into terminal [04:11] and you cand edit there [04:11] use the second link provided aboce [04:11] above [04:13] is there going to be a 7.04 release of xubuntu? [04:14] boris55: the beta is out now from what i read about [04:14] about = above [04:14] yes, it is [04:14] http://www.xubuntu.com/news/feisty_beta [04:14] Final release is expected towards the end of April [04:14] ok, I'll check it out. still one of my favorite distros, stupid girlfriend made me wipe it out for vista. [04:14] SWEET [04:15] (19th-ish, or within a week or two of that) [04:15] you cant dual boot with vista? [04:15] boris55: Time for a new one === flubber [n=administ@cpe-075-181-033-117.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:15] tonyyarusso: how stable is the beta? [04:15] any clue? [04:16] sigmamu188: Varies. I had issues with video drivers making X consume _huge_ amounts of CPU, but that seems to have been fixed now. (I've been running Feisty since before the first alpha, only a few significant issues) [04:16] !beta [04:16] Download Feisty Fawn Beta at http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04, read release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta and upgrade instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades; consider doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing; Just because it's almost ready doesn't mean it is - final releases happen when they do for a reason, be warned and prepared for unbootable systems. [04:17] tonyyarusso: what vid card? [04:17] sigmamu188: ATI Radeon Mobility X/M300 === flubber [n=administ@cpe-075-181-033-117.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:18] I can't wait. end of april means cheap cpu power, cheap memory and a new os. [04:18] Why cheap cpu power and memory? [04:18] tonyyarusso: is there a knows issue page? [04:18] sigmamu188: launchpad.net ;) [04:18] amd has a price drop coming april 9 on all am2 processors [04:18] Not really [04:19] intel has new core 2 duos coming out on 4/22 [04:19] boris55: i cant wait!!! [04:19] since xubuntu screams on my slow processor and limited memory, then a processor upgrade will be insane [04:20] dump the girlfriend get more processing power... === a-u-51 [n=a@24-240-24-41.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:43] core2duo is simply great. [04:44] im trying to configure x to get my volume buttons to work, anyone know what option xkbmodel i should use, or where to find out what identifier to use [04:44] volume buttons on my keyboard... [04:47] a-u-51- I saw a gentoo wiki on how to set your keys to do just about anything. But I ca [04:47] ahh, he left.. [04:47] oh well. [04:48] 'people are jerks. Like if they don't get an answer in one minute or less then who cares. :( [04:49] dang, I was hoping to get an answer. === j1mc_ [n=j1mc@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === iosdfjdosi [n=edgyeft@190.42.3.155] has joined #xubuntu [05:00] hi all [05:00] xubuntu is awesome! === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-153-79.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [05:01] hi kalikiana [05:02] hi iosdfjdosi [05:02] wow, a weird name you have. [05:02] yea [05:02] yea i know [05:02] does it have any hidden meaning? [05:03] no [05:03] i wish [05:03] :D [05:04] So does that mean you did not feel like entering a name at all? [05:04] yea [05:04] couldnt think of any name to put [05:04] i just pressed random leters in the keyboard [05:05] is kalikiana your name? [05:06] Actually, as my whois would tell you, it is a nickname. [05:06] It is Hawaiian for Christian, my first name. [05:06] ah [05:06] kalikiana sounded like a girl's name [05:08] About once a month someone says that. What should I even assume looking at your name? :P [05:08] hehehehe === nilleso [n=gosselju@bas14-toronto63-1096770987.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [05:08] Many people don't event know that for example Italian has many "confusing" names, like Andrea. [05:09] yea === nilleso [n=gosselju@bas14-toronto63-1096770987.dsl.bell.ca] has left #xubuntu [] [05:09] Andrea is a guy name === nilleso [n=gosselju@bas14-toronto63-1096770987.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === nilleso [n=gosselju@bas14-toronto63-1096770987.dsl.bell.ca] has left #xubuntu [] === nilleso [n=gosselju@bas14-toronto63-1096770987.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [05:10] iosdfjdosi: That was my roommate's brother's name [05:10] hehehehe [05:10] really === nilleso [n=gosselju@bas14-toronto63-1096770987.dsl.bell.ca] has left #xubuntu [] === j1mc_ [n=j1mc@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Adi [n=adriana@CPE000d8803384b-CM000a73a17427.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:22] !grub [05:22] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto === brokenbin [n=brokenbi@bas3-toronto06-1177890052.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [05:28] what's the command to format a harddrive? === boris55 [n=richards@12.76.215.83] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] [05:29] `mkfs` [05:30] that's it? [05:30] don't i need to specify the fs? [05:30] well, 'man mkfs' for details === a-u-51 [n=a@24-240-24-41.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:31] You didn't exactly include all the details of how you wanted it formatted. :p [05:31] do i need to delete the existing partition? [05:31] No, you can overwrite a partition. [05:32] qeustion- how to make volume button on keyboard faster, takes forever to increase or decrease volume [05:32] so mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hd... would work? [05:33] fine in kde though [05:33] f keyboard button and make a hotkey? [05:39] gpocentek: You around? [05:45] gpocentek: Thought I'd poke you to take a look at bug 97697 [05:45] Malone bug 97697 in orage "Panel icon doesn't display current date" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97697 [05:55] a-u-51: if you have a wheel mouse just put you pointer over the volume icon and scroll up and down with the wheel [05:56] oops i guess he is gone [05:56] i should learn to read the chat log [05:58] dose konversation support spell checking? and if so how do i enable it? [05:59] or am i better off with Xchat? [06:01] never mind [06:02] answered my own question === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:07] send [06:07] oops [06:07] wrong window === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #xubuntu [06:17] dell is going to do desktop linux, but no word on the distro yet. http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8436091466.html [06:19] j1mc: any word how much they are going to charge for the privilege? [06:19] hehe . . . no. i've just seen that article is all. [06:20] j1mc: besides they wouldn't even send me a new motherboard when my XPS fried they wanted me to mail my computer back to them and pay shipping both ways they suck at customer support [06:21] well, forget them, then. i'm buying an HP. ;-) [06:21] wait, i already did. :) [06:22] j1mc: lol, atleast they are admiting to community support [06:22] yeah . . . and they're going to give preference to free drivers. [06:22] j1mc: i would rather be talking to #xubuntu on freenode that to dell anyday [06:23] :-) me, too, sigmamu188 [06:23] j1mc: all about the free drivers, its a really good concept though i want to get a toughbook and run linux on it, not sure a bout any compatibility issues though [06:24] sigmamu188, me neither. there's a site, though . . . linux on laptops, where you can search different makes and models. [06:24] people report how linux ran on their different laptops... [06:27] www.linux-on-laptops.com [06:27] cool === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has left #xubuntu [] [06:28] j1mc: thanks for the tip they actuallu have toughbook reviews, no ubuntu or xubuntu though [06:28] j1mc: maybe ill be the first. who knows [06:29] sigmamu188, :-) yeah, if the other distros give good results, then xubuntu likely will, too. [06:29] j1mc: amen to that [06:29] at some level, it's just a matter of linux compatibility. [06:32] j1mc: im still kinda new to linux, almost a year since i frist started, the first distro was DSL on a flash drive I highly reccomend to to everyone [06:32] DSL = Danm Small Linux [06:32] :-) i've heard good things about DSL. [06:48] DSL didn't detect my ethernet card === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === cycro [n=robert@CPE0040f4d45ca8-CM00195ee63a94.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:03] hello [07:03] !grub [07:03] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [07:03] i tried some of the suggestions in the first link [07:03] but now i cant boot into windows [07:05] any ideas on how i can fix? [07:05] cycro: do you an error message? have you made any changes? [07:05] you get* [07:06] well [07:06] i had ubuntu installed [07:06] rather, xubuntu [07:06] then i installed xp [07:06] and it would only boot in xp [07:06] then i reinstalled grub [07:06] now it only boots in xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.219.45.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:11] cycro: you don't get the option to boot xp? [07:11] no [07:12] if i hit esc within the 3 seconds it gives me [07:12] it shows me a menu [07:12] with everything but windows xp [07:14] cycro: do you know which partition xp is on? [07:16] yes [07:16] grazie, sda1 [07:17] cycro: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst? [07:17] k [07:17] !pastebin [07:17] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [07:19] grazie, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12722/ [07:23] mm [07:23] cycro: I've added xp. give it a try. Spend most of my time on a mac so I'm no grub expert [07:24] ok thx === WhiteRose [n=djb@user-12l2tg3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:24] where did u add it? [07:25] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12722/ [07:25] refresh page [07:25] at the end [07:25] i dont see it [07:26] cycro: try >> http://pastebin.ca/414683 [07:26] ok got it [07:27] brb while i try === AmyRose [n=amyrose@user-12l2tg3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #xubuntu === cycro [n=robert@CPE0040f4d45ca8-CM00195ee63a94.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] grazie, thank you [07:33] np [07:33] xp ok? [07:33] yes [07:33] another question [07:33] do u know how i can boot up that xp partition thru vmware? [07:34] never done that no, but I believe it is possible [07:35] ive been reading some things on the net, but its quite confusing [07:35] prolly yes [07:35] gar [07:38] alright its late [07:38] im off [07:38] bye [07:38] thx again [07:38] see ya === intelikey [n=root@dialup-4.253.71.10.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:46] xterm help ? can't get fonts big enough to read ? === AmyRose [n=amyrose@user-12l2tg3.cable.mindspring.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === sponix [n=riiight@81.90.21.228] has joined #xubuntu === salomo_ [n=salomo@mango.altmuehlnet.de] has joined #xubuntu [09:52] good morning === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === malnilion_ [n=malnilio@129.244.27.35] has joined #xubuntu === pewee [i=pewee@pepsi2.zakx.de] has left #xubuntu [] [10:01] how can i start my wlan0? without that "networking" [10:03] sry...stop ;) === esc_on_anakin [n=esc@p57BB6CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:10] ifdown wlan0 [10:10] i founded ^^ thx [10:11] but it not works...but i read the manual...ill be back :p [10:19] ifconfig wlan0 down [10:29] if i want to start the wlan0 with "sudo ifup wlan0" i get the message "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device" === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === salomo_ [n=salomo@mango.altmuehlnet.de] has left #xubuntu [] === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === Arkh [n=arkham@62.152.122.140] has joined #xubuntu === _grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-192-210.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === _grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-192-210.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === _grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-192-210.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-192-210.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === rimmington [n=rhys@c220-237-165-56.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === mpnoibuv [n=josh@58.169.156.8] has joined #xubuntu [11:46] Where do I change the time in Xubuntu again? I can't remember... [11:46] how do I force quit a program? [11:47] kalikiana, Applications -- System -- Time and Date [11:48] mpnoibuv, killall [11:50] Arkh, Thank you. Now that I see it it should've been obvious. :) [11:51] :D === Seth_F [n=Seth_F@d14-69-73-102.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === mkquist [n=michael@h-69-3-128-92.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-10257.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] Are there any reasons why an upgraded edgy to feisty takes significantly more disk space than a clean feisty install? Of the order 400/500mb === mpnoibuv [n=josh@58.169.156.8] has joined #xubuntu [12:35] grazie, maybe there are still your edgy packages [12:35] try doing a du -hs /var/cache/apt/ [12:36] mine is 388 MB [12:36] Arkh: ok thanks for that info [12:36] I'm not sure but I think it could be possible [12:37] tonyyarusso: I'll report the bug upstream later today (I don't have time right now) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === kkzilla [n=mrbuzz11@c-24-6-9-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === arualavi [n=Iva@67.Red-83-33-5.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === mpnoibuv [n=josh@58.169.156.8] has joined #xubuntu [01:09] arkh: belated thankyou for killall [01:14] running feisty - whenever I try and open the terminal my screen goes black, then some white text appears talking about starting various things like printing systems etc and running local boot scripts and after a few seconds it goes to the login screen. === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp105-82.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp105-82.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Jester45 [i=Jester45@dsl-189-147.laj.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 is now known as Jester45_away [01:38] mpnoibuv, does your X server works? [01:38] did you try to install things like compiz or beryl? [01:39] xserver crashes when I open the terminal [01:39] mmm very weird.. [01:39] what are compiz and beryl? [01:39] they are some eye candy programs [01:40] since they mss up with the X server [01:40] I thought it was something related [01:40] no i don't have them [01:49] mpnoibuv: what video card are you using? [02:02] Trio 64 3D [02:04] mpnoibuv: not familiar with that card. have you tried using vesa and doing the same? [02:04] what is vesa? [02:04] !vesa [02:04] vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x [02:05] !x [02:05] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto [02:06] everything works fine until I try and open the terminal from the xfce menu [02:08] mpnoibuv: can you boot into restore mode ok? [02:09] I haven't tried that [02:09] mpnoibuv: also have you picked up the latest updates? [02:09] yes [02:09] how do I change the driver to vesa? [02:10] edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Try the restore boot first === mpnoibuv [n=josh@58.169.156.8] has left #xubuntu [] === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:16] Arkh: not convinced by that 388mb of edgy packages. Something must wrong somewhere. I've got a clean edgy to feisty upgrade taking 2.2G after removing some big packages! 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[06:39] yo [06:44] hi g4 [06:45] or, g4h . . . :-) [06:46] ok, this is starting to perturb me. does fusesmb show up in synaptic for anyone else? === j1mc doesn't have access to a xubuntu machine right now . . . [06:58] g4h . . . sounds like it's missing for you? [07:02] yep === mkquist [n=michael@h-69-3-128-92.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:03] g4h . . . all your repos set up? [07:03] so it claims [07:04] . . . its in universe . . . and you're sure that you're typing "fusesmb" ? :-) [07:07] quite. === j1mc scratches head . . . === j1mc just installed it a few days ago. [07:09] g4h . . . are you on dapper? [07:10] i was. it wasnt showing up on there either. i'm on edgy now [07:10] oh, it's only in the repos for edgy and feisty. [07:11] and since i made the switch, i'm assuming that something in my repos didnt catch up [07:12] hmmm . . . i'm not sure. [07:12] i would check your /etc/apt/sources.list . . . it would be helpful to know for sure . . . [07:12] >.< [07:12] just did [07:13] somehow they got switched back to dapper....wth [07:14] woah, that's weird. === g4h grounds the cat for messing with his repositories [07:14] g4h: hehehe [07:14] well, at least you found the problem. :-) [07:15] that remains to be seen *searches for fusesmb again* [07:15] did you "sudo apt-get update" first? :-) === j1mc just wants to be sure . . . . [07:16] i reloaded from synaptic [07:17] oh . . . ok. [07:22] \o/ [07:22] good news? [07:22] yeah it came up [07:22] :-) xubuntu ftw! [07:23] ok . . . i gtg. === j1mc --> afk === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jcampbel@157.199.22.99] has left #xubuntu [] === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.202.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Owdgit [n=ron@88-110-188-98.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === g4h_ [n=server40@adsl-75-45-90-241.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h32n3c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu === b_52GM [n=skimo@41.248.27.33] has joined #xubuntu === ghetek [n=ghetek@c-76-21-13-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === SamRose [n=chatzill@c-71-206-125-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:34] hey guys there's a few packages i'm having problems installing like apache 1.x and mysql 4.x where the installer wants gnome... using synaptic, it hangs... how to get aroudn this === Krunsj [n=a@ti231210a080-5869.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Buddha| [n=mike@adsl-220-137-221.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:07] Is there a PPC version of Xubuntu? [09:14] I believe so, yes. [09:17] Nevermind, I found it. It's Edgy, though. No Feisty version as of yet, it seems. [09:18] Interesting. One second. [09:18] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/feisty/beta/ [09:18] Tada :D [09:24] Ooh, Thanks! [09:24] I've got a G3 iMac I'm trying to get up and running. [09:26] :) [09:27] I think the screen on it is bad, though. [09:29] Ugh oh : ( === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === crdlb_ [n=crdlb@pool-71-241-30-89.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === spasticteapot [n=spastict@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:52] Hello! [09:52] Anyone know where the Xubuntu Feisty ISO is? [09:52] I sure do! [09:52] Do you want the Feisty Beta? [09:52] Or today's build [09:55] Er...whichever one is least likely to go boom when I install it. [09:55] I'm not a Linux expert - I've used it for a few months as my primary OS, though. [09:56] I could'nt get any wifi managers to work, so I had to use IWconfig for everything. === AmyRose_ [n=amyrose@UNKNOWN.wctc.edu] has joined #xubuntu [09:56] What platform? [09:56] IBM wiped the drive when they fixed my Thinkpad, though, so it's re-install time! [09:56] Intel. 1ghz Pentium M. [09:56] CPU throttling or bust. [09:57] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/beta/ === spasticteapot [n=spastict@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:58] Thanks! [09:58] Downloading now. [09:59] :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [10:01] Finally...things might actually RUN! [10:01] Also...anyone else notice that Windows Vista seems a lot like Enlightenment or KDE, but a lot slower. [10:02] Tried it a day or two ago. My 1ghz Pentium-M with Intel Integrated felt more responsive than his dual-core e6300 with ATI X1800. [10:02]