[12:39] <telexicon> I am pretty sure I have dhcpd set up correctly but I can't get other machines on the same network to lease addresses... I think it has something to do with my switch any ideas?
[02:54] <racter> hi all - just installed edubuntu server on a test machine and it seems to have missed my second ethernet card during installation; is there some process to try autodetection again or reconfigure manually?
[03:04] <jgedeon> racter: did the install tell you that you would have to configure dhcp3.conf manually?
[03:05] <jgedeon> should say dhcpd.conf
[03:07] <racter> yeah it did
[03:07] <racter> "there are no free interfaces for use with the ltsp server"
[03:07] <racter> but now that i'm installed, ifconfig only sees the one card
[03:07] <jgedeon> Hmm.
[03:08] <racter> the card seems like it's functional (the light comes on when i plug it in).  but even if i swap it out i'll need to do something to reconfigure /etc/network/interfaces or whatever, right?
[03:10] <jgedeon> lspci | grep Ethernet only shows the one card?
[03:10] <racter> oh actually no it shows both of them
[03:10] <racter> i was just looking at ifconfig
[03:11] <jgedeon> What does ifconfig eth1 show?
[03:11] <racter> eth1: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[03:12] <jgedeon> the lspci | grep Ethernet what does it show for the second missing card?
[03:12] <jgedeon> They are both wired cards correct?
[03:12] <racter> yeah
[03:13] <racter> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10)
[03:13] <racter> that's from lspci
[03:13] <jgedeon> Ok let me look something up.
[03:14] <racter> thx
[03:17] <jgedeon> Do you have another card that you could drop in the computer?
[03:17] <racter> sure, i'll try that -- is there anything i need to run in order to reconfigure it?
[03:17] <racter> like `dpkg-reconfigure networking` or something?
[03:18] <jgedeon> lets just see if we can get it up with one first once your up then we can do the configuration.
[03:18] <racter> ok i'll brb
[03:33] <jgedeon> wb racter
[03:33] <racter> thx ;)
[03:33] <racter> things are kind of in pieces here so i only have 01 terminal at the moment :)
[03:33] <jgedeon> I know the feeling.  LOL
[03:33] <jgedeon> is it showing both cards now?
[03:33] <racter> so i still get "device not found"
[03:34] <racter> and ifconfig only has one card
[03:34] <racter> but i was wrong about which one was working before - it was the 'accton' one that i posted that's up as eth0
[03:34] <racter> the new card i put in is 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139'
[03:34] <jgedeon> So what card is it not seeing then?
[03:34] <jgedeon> Onboard?
[03:35] <racter> no it's a card
[03:35] <racter> no onboard ethernet on this machine
[03:35] <jgedeon> OK.
[03:35] <jgedeon> so you have a realtek and what installed on the system?
[03:36] <racter> they're both pci cards
[03:36] <jgedeon> Are they two realtek cards?
[03:36] <racter> eth0 which is up and connected to the internet is 'Accton technology corp' and the other is the realtek one
[03:37] <jgedeon> and its not seeing the realtek?
[03:37] <jgedeon> lspci | grep Ethernet
[03:37] <racter> lspci sees it but ifconfig doesn't and `ifconfig eth1` says 'device not found'
[03:37] <jgedeon> Ok...
[03:38] <racter> `ifup eth1` gives 'unknown interface eth1=eth1'
[03:39] <jgedeon> You can use etherconf to reconfigure it you want.  Youi may have to apt-get it.
[03:39] <racter> cool i'll check that out
[03:40] <racter> so what's your relation to the edubuntu project?
[03:40] <jgedeon> After you have it installed if you need to run it again you can use dpkg-reconfigure etherconf
[03:40] <racter> got it
[03:40] <jgedeon> No relation..  I just like the project and run one server here at home for the family and am putting some in the local school district here for testing.
[03:41] <racter> cool - do you work for the school district?
[03:41] <jgedeon> Not really work.  I sit on the districts tech committee and am now on the Board of Directors for the eschool that we are starting in September.
[03:42] <jgedeon> Are you using this at home or somewhere else.
[03:42] <racter> i run a community computer lab & we're trying to move to some kind of terminal server setup
[03:43] <racter> we have been using xubuntu individually installed but want to be able to support even lower-end hardware and benefit from the administration tools in ltsp setups
[03:43] <jgedeon> Ok.  If you have dhcp running elsewhere on the network you may run into issues.
[03:44] <racter> i have a dhcp server running on my router but the terminals will be plugged into a switch connected to the second card in the edubuntu server; right?
[03:44] <jgedeon> Ok that is one way to do it.
[03:45] <racter> aha it's up now (as eth2)
[03:45] <jgedeon> LOL
[03:45] <racter> weird
[03:45] <racter> is there another way to do it?
[03:45] <jgedeon> The system here at home I run with a single card and let the firewall do the dhcp and passing of information that is why I was asking.
[03:46] <racter> huh - how is the internet connection integrated?
[03:47] <jgedeon> Internet is still passed through the network.
[03:47] <jgedeon> Just not running dhcp off the system..
[03:48] <jgedeon> did you get my PM?
[03:49] <racter> hm i guess i don't know how to work this irc client ;)
[03:49] <jgedeon> Ok no registered nick then...  Do you didn't get it.
[03:50] <racter> nm i got it
[03:53] <jgedeon> what does cat /etc/iftab show?
[03:54] <racter> just eth0 mac 00:10:b5:50:2a:32 arp 1
[04:14] <jgedeon> racter: keep me posted on how things are going.  Would be interested in hearing.
[04:14] <jgedeon> or reading.  LOL
[04:32] <racter> thx will do :)
[04:51] <racter> jgedeon: so you have ppc and i386 clients running side by side?
[04:51] <jgedeon> racter: not at this time.  I need to get the ltsp client build and then put it on my edubuntu server to host it to the clients.
[04:52] <jgedeon> Right now only hosting i386 clients.
[04:53] <racter> so if i build /opt/ltsp/ppc on a ppc machine and then put it in /opt/ltsp/ on my server which is i386, i can serve ppc clients?
[04:53] <racter> (our lab is 50/50 ppc and i386)
[04:53] <kgoetz> dont think so
[04:53] <jgedeon> according to the guess at ltsp basically that is all that has to be done.
[04:54] <jgedeon> There is a little more too it but that is the basics.  Let me see if I can find it.
[04:56] <jgedeon> you need to run ltsp-build-client on the correct architecture
[04:56] <jgedeon>  if you want a ppc client, you need to run ltsp-build-client on a ppc server
[04:56] <jgedeon>  then, once that's done, you can transfer the result to a x86 server
[04:57] <jgedeon> Once done you will copy over /opt/ltsp/ppc/*
[05:01] <cafuego_> And you'll need yaboot entries in the tftpd server config
[05:01] <jgedeon> install PPC edubuntu on a PPC server, copy over the /opt/ltsp/ppc tree and kernel, and then trash the PPC install
[05:01] <cafuego_> and enable bootp on the dhcp server.
[05:02] <jgedeon> it is that easy - besides setting up dhcpd.conf
[05:02] <cafuego_> I've found it's a PITA to distinguish between PPC and x86 clients in dhcpd.conf
[05:02] <sbalneav> Evening all
[05:02] <cafuego_> So is specified a comman nfs_root and then used yaboot.conf to override that for the ppc clients
[05:03] <kgoetz> sbalneav: hello
[05:03] <jgedeon> that is what I have from talking to the guys at #ltsp to get it running.
[05:03] <jgedeon> sbalneav: hello.
[05:04] <jgedeon> if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 20, 3) = "ppc" {
[05:04] <jgedeon>         option root-path "192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/ppc";
[05:04] <jgedeon>      } else {
[05:04] <jgedeon>         option root-path "192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/i386";
[05:04] <jgedeon>      }
[05:10] <racter> oic
[05:10] <racter> great i'll try that out
[05:10] <jgedeon> racter: after you do the ppc build would you be willing to make it available some how so that it can be downloaded?
[05:10] <racter> yeah sure
[05:11] <racter> i'll bz it up and send you a link
[05:11] <jgedeon> my email address is joe.gedeon@gmail.com then I can get to work on the school even more than then get the lab built and then show it and get them converted.
[05:12] <jgedeon> It won't take much to get them converted right now at all and get them away from M$
[05:12] <bimberi> I though it was possible to do 'sudo ltsp-build-client --arch ppc'
[05:12] <bimberi> to make the /opt/ltsp/ppc tree
[05:12] <kgoetz> bimberi: apparently only on ppc machines, just as you can only build i386 on x86 or x86_64
[05:12] <jgedeon> bimberi: I'm not sure.  I was just going off of what I found out from #ltsp and other sources off the internet.
[05:13] <bimberi> k
[05:14] <jgedeon> Had to try it.  LOL
[05:14] <jgedeon> ERROR: unsupported architecture. Check your --arch argument: ppc,       supported values are: i386 powerpc,error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
[05:14] <jgedeon> joe@full-edubuntu:~$ sudo ltsp-build-client --arch powerpc
[05:14] <jgedeon> ERROR: --arch powerpc called on unsupported arch: i686,error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
[05:14] <racter> it's zipping now - it builds as /opt/ltsp/powerpc and not /opt/ltsp/ppc
[05:15] <racter> (building on imac g3)
[05:15] <jgedeon> KEWL!
[05:15] <jgedeon> Probably going to be something like 300mb
[05:17] <bimberi> ah yes, s/ppc/powerpc/ :)
[05:19] <jgedeon> racter: can you also make available /var/lib/tftboot also.
[05:19] <racter> sure
[05:20] <jgedeon> Going to make 50 teachers happy and one sys admin PISSED!  LOL
[05:26] <jgedeon> racter:  thought you might like to read.  http://elliot.ecowizards.com/wp/archives/2006/05/18/ltsp-booting-old-mac-hardware/
[05:31] <racter> thanks joe -- the /opt/ltsp/powerpc bzip is only 114M and it's uploading to http://dai5ychain.net/static/ltsp_powerpc.tar.bz2
[05:31] <racter> should be up in 5-10 min
[05:32] <racter> /var/lib/tftpboot is at http://dai5ychain.net/static/tftpboot.tar.bz2
[05:32] <jgedeon> Ok THANK YOU!
[05:33] <jgedeon> Does anyone know if the Student Control Panel Upgrade is going to be in the fiesty release and/or if the edgy release will be able to upgrade to the new features of it?
[05:35] <jgedeon> racter: I grabbed the tftpboot..
[05:35] <jgedeon> The ltsp* still uploading?
[05:37] <racter> jgedeon: ya 37%; should be another 10min i guess
[05:37] <jgedeon> ok
[05:55] <racter> are there logs for this channel somewhere?
[05:57] <bimberi> !logs
[05:57] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[05:59] <racter> thx
[06:00] <bimberi> yw
[06:14] <XoMa> Hellow all!
[06:17] <XoMa> Please help me. I'm download dvd image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/, but can't burn him.
[06:17] <XoMa> Error: content too big.
[06:30] <racter> dhcpd is still failing even though i have my interface up at eth1 now
[06:31] <racter> just tried dpkg-reconfigure dhcp3-server and i got the same nondescript "[fail] " as with /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
[06:31] <racter> is there somewhere that i can see some more detailed information?
[06:32] <racter> or maybe `dpkg-reconfigure edubuntu-server` will try to set things properly?
[06:35] <racter> \quit
[06:43] <XoMa> Hello all!
[06:43] <XoMa> Please help me. I'm download dvd image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/, but can't burn him. Error: content too big.
[06:44] <LaserJock> XoMa: what are you trying to burn it on?
[06:56] <XoMa> feisty-dvd-i386.iso
[06:58] <LaserJock> XoMa: but what kind of media?
[06:58] <LaserJock> I assume it is a dvd
[07:00] <XoMa> dvd-r and dvd+r discs
[07:01] <LaserJock> XoMa: it must be thinking it's trying to burn a CD
[07:04] <XoMa>  LaserJock:  I burnt an image on dvd, instead of copied as a file
[07:05] <LaserJock> yes, but I wonder if it thinks it's a CD, not a DVD
[07:09] <XoMa> LaserJock: In the size in 4.4? :)
[07:09] <XoMa> LaserJock: log from GnomeBaker: Executing 'builtin_dd if=/home/mikheev/Downloads/ISO/feisty-dvd-i386.iso of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0' :-( /dev/hdc: 2298496 blocks are free, 2325316 to be written!
[07:09] <XoMa> LaserJock: In the size in 4.4 GB? :)
[07:13] <Burgundavia> yay! ltsp rocks. I wish I could use it internally at Userful
[07:13] <XoMa>  I tried to burn in the console so: "growisofs -overburn -speed=1 -Z /dev/dvd=feisty-dvd-i386.iso" and "growisofs -dvd-compat -overburn -speed=1 -Z /dev/dvd=feisty-dvd-i386.iso"
[07:13] <LaserJock> XoMa: hmm, it could be they are just too big
[07:13] <LaserJock> XoMa: you might want to try the Herd 5 DVD
[07:13] <XoMa> All discs is bad :(
[07:14] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: then do it ;-)
[07:14] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: my boss has vetoed it
[07:14] <LaserJock> tell Tim he can just take that Fedora/RHEL disk and ...
[07:14] <LaserJock> ;-)
[07:14] <Burgundavia> indeed
[07:15] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: i forgot, did jason send you a new desktop-multiplier tarball?
[07:15] <LaserJock> nope
[07:15] <LaserJock> I don't think so
[07:15] <LaserJock> let me check my email to make sure
[07:17] <XoMa> Ahead Nero v.7  yas not helped.
[07:20] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: ahh, he did give me URLs for them
[07:20] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: did you do a UVFe?
[07:20] <Burgundavia> nope, will do taht tomorrow
[07:20] <LaserJock> XoMa: have you tried Herd 5 disks?
[07:21] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: k,subscribe me to the bug when you do
[07:22] <Burgundavia> will do
[07:26] <XoMa> LaserJock:  To me it is necessary Edubuntu, and download the second image I cannot
[07:31] <LaserJock> XoMa: I don't quite understand you. Are you asking if it's necessary to download the server addon .iso?
[07:31] <XoMa> By means of what program it is possible to change iso an image, having kept it as loading?
[07:32] <XoMa> LaserJock: To me it is necessary Edubuntu.
[07:34] <XoMa> LaserJock: I am limited in limits on the Internet.
[07:35] <XoMa>  Excuse for bad English.
[07:35] <LaserJock> XoMa: well, you don't *have* to have the server addon CD
[07:35] <LaserJock> but it has all the educational software
[07:35] <LaserJock> XoMa: where are you from?
[07:35] <XoMa> Russia
[07:36] <LaserJock> XoMa: do you know if there is a Russion Ubuntu channel?
[07:36] <LaserJock> they might be able to help as well
[07:36] <XoMa> Give me a link, please.
[07:37] <bimberi> !ru
[07:37] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:38] <LaserJock> yeah
[07:38] <LaserJock> ;-)
[07:38] <XoMa>  Thanks
[07:38] <XoMa> :-[
[07:38] <bimberi> :)
[10:23] <rockprincess> moin all!
[10:24] <cbx33> ping RichEd
[11:26] <cbx33> ogra on feisty, what do we have to do to get thin clients booting
[11:26] <cbx33> should it be ootb?
[11:26] <cbx33> cos....well....my thin clients don't seem to want to boot up?
[11:28] <highvoltage> cbx33: someone posted last night that it was working with a daily build
[11:28] <cbx33> oh
[11:28] <cbx33> so beta is b0rked?
[11:28] <highvoltage> beta should be fine afaik
[11:28] <cbx33>  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[11:29] <highvoltage> pre-beta had a problem though in the ltsp-server package
[11:29] <cbx33> (initramfs)
[11:29] <cbx33> that's it
[11:29] <highvoltage> cbx33: can you reboot that client, and check for RPC errors during boot?
[11:29] <cbx33> didn't see any
[11:29] <cbx33> maybe I'll tell it to boot without splash
[11:30] <highvoltage> check if nfs is running fine on the server
[11:30] <cbx33> yeh nfs seems fine
[11:31] <cbx33> berooting
[11:32] <cbx33> nfsmount: need a path
[11:35] <cbx33> hmmm
[11:35] <cbx33> it seems to be confused
[11:35] <cbx33> about it's ipaddess
[11:35] <cbx33> 192.168.145.128 and 192.168.0.250
[11:35] <cbx33> keeps trying with different stuff
[11:36] <cbx33> well it's b0rked
[11:48] <highvoltage> cbx33: :-(
[11:48] <cbx33> trying to get hold of ogra
[11:49] <cbx33> i have no idea
[11:49] <cbx33> i don't need to configure anything now do i
[11:49] <cbx33> it should work ootb
[11:49] <cbx33> we have a preshipped dhcp don't we
[11:49] <highvoltage> yep, should work out of box
[11:50] <highvoltage> dhcpd.conf is indeed pre-shipped and should be in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[11:50] <cbx33> yeh
[11:50] <cbx33> swat i thought
[11:51] <cbx33> maybe it's vmware....but it's always worked fine
[11:52] <cbx33> but it normally works fine
[11:53] <ogra> cbx33, make sure to not log in on the server after boot ... network manager is broken and reconfigures your static interface so the clients cant boot ... Mithrandir is working on a fix afaik
[11:53] <cbx33> ahh
[11:53] <cbx33> well then that's the problem
[11:53] <cbx33> is there anything i can do?
[11:53] <ogra> according to sbalneav it works fine for him until NM kicks in
[11:54] <cbx33> ogra: can i have a few mins of your time... -> pm - important
[11:54] <ogra> uninstall NM or wait for the fix ... in some cases it works to ifdown/ifup the interface after NM did its magic
[11:55] <ogra> (i.e. for me if it has the dhcp wlan interface running i can just ifdown/up the static one )
[11:55] <cbx33> ok
[11:55] <cbx33> trying now
[11:55] <cbx33> is that after disabling NM?
[11:56] <cbx33> did we know that icons in gdm are broken?
[11:56] <cbx33> the gdm login screen
[11:59] <cbx33> ogra: did you get that
[11:59] <cbx33> https://beta.launchpad.net/bugs/30459
[11:59] <ubotu> Malone bug 30459 in gdm "Icons in GDM options menu are broken" [Medium,Fix released] 
[11:59] <cbx33> is back
[11:59] <ogra> sigh
[11:59] <ogra> who filed that
[12:00] <ogra> i'm just uploading the fix
[12:02] <ogra> ah, its not edubuntu specific ... ok
[12:09] <cbx33> yeh that bug is old
[12:09] <cbx33> sorry ogra just doing my testing bit
[12:10] <ogra> its fine, i just thought i needed to add it to the changelog, i wasnt aware there was this old bug
[12:10] <ogra> but its not related to the current breakage anyway
[12:10] <cbx33> no
[03:45] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:49] <SimonAnibal> Morning, sbalneav
[03:49] <sbalneav> Morning SimonAnibal
[04:15] <bddebian> Heya
[04:56] <mcsd> How old is Hoary?
[05:01] <tsurc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryHedgehog
[05:01] <tsurc> April 8, 2005
[05:01] <ogra> he already left
[05:01] <sbalneav> ogra: On specific edubuntu things, where's what I've found on my testing
[05:01] <ogra> hoary isnt supported anymore
[05:01] <sbalneav> LTSP build chroot is ok
[05:02] <ogra> ok
[05:02] <sbalneav> Second cd apps install fine
[05:02] <ogra> i'm just doing th elast changes here ...
[05:02] <sbalneav> Artwork is great
[05:02] <ogra> (to ltsp)
[05:02] <ogra> artwork was fixed today ...
[05:02] <sbalneav> Was it broken?
[05:02] <ogra> so the menu logo is the right one and th emenu in gdm has icons
[05:02] <mcsd> so to walk in on the conv but are you guys talking about building a live cd?
[05:03] <ogra> no
[05:03] <ogra> we're talking about our edubuntu feisty tests
[05:03] <mcsd> ohhh I only ask because this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[05:03] <ogra> and the last fixes before release
[05:04] <sbalneav> The handbook link doesn't work, but you knew about that.  I notice under "System" menu there's both a "About Ubuntu" and "About Edubuntu".  Might we get around the problem in yelp by simply adding another menu item for "Edubuntu handbook"?
[05:04] <ogra> yelp was uploaded today
[05:04] <ogra> should fix the handbook
[05:05] <sbalneav> ah
[05:05] <sbalneav> ok then.
[05:05] <sbalneav> You're too flipping fast for me. :)
[05:05] <ogra> about edubuntu will get you to that
[05:05] <ogra> we'll keep about ubuntu this time ...
[05:05] <sbalneav> excellent
[05:05] <ogra> if people dont complain i'll keep it later as well, i dont think we need to hide it ...
[05:05] <mcsd> sorry...this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization says you have to use a Hoary build
[05:06] <sbalneav> Other than that, I think things are looking good.  I'm going to do a bit more work on the handbook this weekend, and do the ltsp testing as well.
[05:06] <mcsd> is there a more current one...am I going to run into problems using that tutorial?
[05:06] <sbalneav> Do you have a "checklist" wiki page that we can fill out like last time?
[05:06] <ogra> i'll go over that handbook during the weekend and make sure to close some more ltsp LP bugs
[05:07] <ogra> yes, there is one somewhere ... dont ask me where :)
[05:07] <ogra> Testing/Current from the wiki should link to it i guess
[05:09] <ogra> im just trying to imitate the old ltsp kernel by generating an initramfs with a fixed module list based on the kernel config ... lest see if that speeds up something
[05:09] <ogra> i'm slightly worried about bug 97456
[05:09] <ubotu> Malone bug 97456 in ltsp "eBox 2300 boots VERY slow with Ubuntu/LTSP-5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97456
[05:10] <ogra> what strikes me is that you compiled nfs into the kernel ...
[05:10] <ogra> while we use a module from initramfs
[05:11] <ogra> i wonder if the constant timeout probs are caused by that
[05:12] <sbalneav> I wouldn't think that there'd be much of a performance penalty between loading the module, versus statically compiled.
[05:12] <sbalneav> Other than the penalty of initially loading the module.
[05:22] <ogra> right
[05:23] <ogra> which might cause a delay that leads to a timeout
[05:23] <ogra> if the initramfs defalting takes long on a slow cpu for example
[05:23] <ogra> *deflating
[05:24] <ogra> sbalneav, well, according to the logs the ltsp kernel is a *lot* faster with its initramfs ...
[05:25] <ogra> (jammcq's logs on the bug i mean)
[05:26] <ogra> even though i blame the speedup jammcq sees mainly on the fact that the ubuntu kernel is compiled for 586 and the ltsp one for 486
[05:26] <sbalneav> Hmmm
[05:27] <sbalneav> Wonder what would happen if you compiled a custom kernel not -generic, but with -i386 specifiically.  Everything else the same.
[05:27] <ogra> we dont use -generic in ltsp
[05:28] <ogra> there was one herd build where i had to use -generic ... but apart from that we always used -i386
[05:29] <sbalneav> So, THAT's not the issue then.
[05:30] <ogra> oh, right i totally missed that jammcq used generic as base
[05:39] <Laser_away> ogra: as of yelp 2.18.0-0ubuntu3 you should be able to see the handbook in the yelp frontpage
[05:39] <ogra> yeah, seb128 already told me and recived a big hug :)
[05:41] <Laser_away> heh
[05:42] <Laser_away> I also got TCM text from cbx33
[05:42] <Laser_away> just waiting on some screenshots
[05:42] <Laser_away> +e
[05:42] <ogra> thats what you always pretend
[06:27] <mcsd> "can't find /home/test/mnt/ebunto-6.10-live.iso in /etc/fstab or etc/mtab" trying to mount a live cd iso for custom build
[06:27] <mcsd> did a "sudo mount ebunto-6.10-live.iso -o loop"
[06:29] <stgraber> mcsd: sudo mount -o loop you-iso-file.iso adir/
[06:29] <stgraber> mcsd: you have to pass it the directory you want it to mount your iso on
[09:32] <Borealisphoenix> hello?
[09:34] <Burgwork> hey Borealisphoenix
[09:35] <Borealisphoenix> It's working...thnk god
[09:35] <Borealisphoenix> I have not chatted like this in more than 10 years I think
[09:35] <Borealisphoenix> HOw's it going
[09:38] <Borealisphoenix> Pardon my lack of experience but is everyone on the list in the same room?
[09:39] <sbalneav> Not everyone on the list is in the room, and not everyone in the room is on the list.
[09:39] <sbalneav> However, several of us are on both :)
[09:40] <sbalneav> Myself included
[09:41] <Borealisphoenix> hehe thanks
[09:42] <Borealisphoenix> I am tryin gto find someone I can talk to about the Edubuntu live CD
[09:44] <sbalneav> What is it you need to know?
[09:45] <Borealisphoenix> I am alittl econfused on how to get it to work...I put the CD in and restarted and I got the menu
[09:45] <Borealisphoenix> When I Tryied the option of starting it started loading a couple files then gavce me a message about the computer being 32bit
[09:45] <Borealisphoenix>  then stopped working
[09:47] <Borealisphoenix> I don't like to play around with programs that boot from CD's so I'd rather find out what I am doing wrong than mess everything up
[09:48] <Borealisphoenix> YOu there?
[09:54] <sbalneav> What was the message exactly?
[09:55] <Borealisphoenix> Give me a moment I'll run over to other comp
[09:57] <Borealisphoenix> ok powering on pooter
[09:58] <Borealisphoenix> O...K somethings up I can't start it...(notebook maybe needs power hooked up)
[10:01] <Borealisphoenix> Says "your CPU can not support long mode. (forgot from there to here) Something about getting a 32bit distrabution
[10:14] <sbalneav> Which live cd did you download
[10:14] <Borealisphoenix> I looked at the ISO and it says it's edubuntu-6.10-live-i386.iso
[10:14] <sbalneav> Seems like it's the 64 bit version
[10:15] <sbalneav> How far does it get in the boot?
[10:15] <Borealisphoenix> it brings up saper folder loading with "............................................." after it
[10:16] <Borealisphoenix> after the second file address it goes black then posts the message
[10:17] <sbalneav> It could be a bad burn of the cd
[10:17] <Borealisphoenix> this is the web page I am at that I downloaded it from     http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/edubuntu/edgy/
[10:18] <Borealisphoenix> I used the program that the sight suggested
[10:18] <sbalneav> Maybe try re-burning it.
[10:19] <Borealisphoenix> Something I should do to have it burn better?
[10:19] <sbalneav> Don't know.  What did you burn it with?
[10:20] <Borealisphoenix> Infrarecorder This is the sights suggestion for burning the ISO
[10:21] <sbalneav> Not familiar with it, so I don't know, but I'd try burning it again, at least.
[10:23] <Borealisphoenix> Should I increase the size of secondary buffer?
[10:26] <sbalneav> Try, maybe.
[10:27] <sbalneav> I haven't used windows since 1998, so I don't know much about that burning program :)
[10:27] <Borealisphoenix> hehe
[10:27] <Borealisphoenix> Concepts whould be the same in burning
[10:27] <Borealisphoenix> Hardwares hardware
[10:31] <Borealisphoenix> I've looked on google and have founf alot of people having same error one had a CD he ordered