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DrXLeeJunFan: /dev/sda5 (but I get error when trying to mount) /dev/sda6 I just created mounted fine12:13
LeeJunFanDrX: grep "sda5" /proc/mounts12:13
digital_logicdd if=/dev/sda5 bs=128k | bzip2 -z1c | split -b 2000m /output/files12:13
digital_logicshould do it I think12:13
digital_logicbut you'd have split bzip2 files which might be goofy to deal with12:14
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digital_logicdd if=/dev/sda5 bs=128k | bzip2 -z1c | split -b 2000m /output/files.bz212:14
digital_logicwould be better12:14
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stdinbzip2 can take ages tho12:14
DrXdd if=/dev/sda5 of=- | zcat - > backup.gz didn't work12:14
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DrXsays unexpected end of file12:14
DrX(stdin)12:14
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DrXI'm ok not breaking it up...12:15
digital_logicalrighty12:15
digital_logicdd if=/dev/sda5 bs=128k | bzip2 -z1c >/output/file.bz212:15
stevethepirateAnyone know of a good dc client?12:16
digital_logicgzip would go faster, but I *KNOW* the options are diffrent between the osx version and the one that kubuntu has (I'm on osx now, so I can't test it for you, bzip2 on the other hand is the same)12:16
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digital_logicand I know the command above works12:16
digital_logic(granted I was testing it with a 3Gb file of the letter 'a', which I'm sure isn't what your sda5 is full of, but that's not the point)12:17
ssickleSo does the kubuntu live CD installer not support using LVM?12:18
ssickleI just tried to install the feisty beta and couldn't find the LVM option in the partitioner.12:18
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ssickleI ended up falling back to the console based install.12:18
LeeJunFandigital_logic: 3GB of the letter a? Are you making zip bombs for your enemies?12:20
LeeJunFan:)12:20
stdinssickle: I think you'd need the alternate cd for that12:20
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digital_logicno, it was to test a c program I was trying to get working that would simply report filesize.12:20
digital_logic(it didn't work because I can't figure out a coherent way to handle numbers larger than long int)12:20
ssickleI was using the DVD installer.  Last time I used the alternative cd I had to use console install for LVM as well.12:21
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DrXbzip2 ?12:21
ssickleI just wondered if the feature was supposed to be added for the feisty graphical installer?12:21
digital_logicbzip2 is like gzip, but better12:21
DrXdoes it create a gz file?12:21
LeeJunFanDrX: no, it creates a .bz2 file, it's compressed more.12:22
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digital_logicand somewhat slower (though int he command I gave you, it is set to level 1, meaning it will go as fast as it can)12:22
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DrXwhy do you suppose I can't mount /dev/sda5 but the contents work?12:22
digital_logicbut just about anything that can decompress gz, should have some way to decompress bz212:22
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digital_logicconfused partition table?12:22
digital_logicgophers?12:22
stdinssickle: ask in #ubuntu+112:23
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DrXi gather bz2 can unzip, right?12:23
digital_logicyes12:23
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DrXy, but confused partition table = contents don't run, right?12:23
ssicklestdin: ok thanks.12:23
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digital_logicI have no idea why it wouldn't.12:23
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DrXI'm wondering if Xen overwrites the ext3 formatting when you select a block device?12:24
AZNSLDchmod... what is the other one?12:24
AZNSLDchgrp?12:24
digital_logicphysically the drive still works, so dd can read it, it will just make an image that is just as screwed up as the original12:24
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digital_logichowever, then you can work on getting the original to work again, and not have to worry about obliterating your data completely12:24
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stdinAZNSLD: chgrp changed the group only, chown can change the owner group (or just the owner)12:25
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AZNSLDIs the another one?12:25
digital_logic(and since 'not mounting' could be being casued by a good number of things, its a good idea to back up the drive in its current mangled state before trying to fix it, and possibly making things worse)12:25
Edulixyeah I never use chgrp :P12:25
digital_logicchdir?12:25
digital_logicsounds familar anyway12:25
EdulixAZNSLD: it's another command12:26
digital_logicchroot?12:26
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digital_logicchpants?12:26
Edulixchown!12:26
Edulix:P12:26
digital_logicI thought you said that one....12:26
digital_logicoh, no that whas chmod12:26
eagles0513875does anyone have a link to a wiki on how to install and config dhcp server12:26
DrXdigital_logic: this takes a while, huh?12:26
digital_logicits a 60G drive?12:26
digital_logicbeing backed up to what?12:26
digital_logicanother internal harddrive?12:26
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frutaxwhen i try to install libqt3-mt-dev with apt-get i get the following error: Depends: libcupsys2-dev but it is not going to be installed. what should i do to fix it? im using edgy12:27
digital_logicyou *DID* put in the bs=128k though didn't you?12:27
DrXit's a 250GB drive partitioned, copying 60GB /dev/sda5 to /dev/sda6 with bzip12:27
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digital_logic(or anything larger than ~16k)12:27
eagles0513875does anyone have a link to a wiki on how to install and config dhcp server12:28
digital_logichow much free space is on sda6?12:28
DrXno, I used dd if=/dev/sda5 | bzip2 -z1c >sql-xen-vm (the other commands were throwin errors)12:28
DrX60GB12:28
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digital_logicbs=(something) *MAY* make it go much faster12:28
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DrXobviously, it's slower b/c it's reading & writing to the same drive, but I have a mirrored pair w/ HW RAID 1 so it should be writing to one while reading from the other12:29
digital_logic(since the default block size is something teeeny, and drives because of how they work (and subsequently how dd does things linearly) reading in larger hunks then being able to compress them that way too can make it go much faster12:29
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eagles0513875does anyone have a link to a wiki on how to install and config dhcp server12:30
digital_logiceagles: APPARENTLY NOT.12:30
eagles0513875ok12:31
stdin!repeat | eagles051387512:31
ubotueagles0513875: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:31
digital_logicyou can usually find that stuff with reasonable ease on google12:31
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DrXdigital_logic: oddly, when I ls in another terminal i see nothing, should I be seeing at least one file now?12:32
coty_!wifi12:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:32
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stevethepirateHow do i add a harddrive with read and write access?12:33
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stevethepirate*Ntfs12:33
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digital_logicyou're sure that >(thefileyouentered) is ON sda6?12:33
stdin!ntfs-3g12:34
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)12:34
digital_logicbecause it may just be writing to $HOME12:34
stdinstevethepirate  ^^12:34
digital_logic(your user dir)12:34
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coty_does anyone know when they will have 6.10 for shipit12:35
DrXi did mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/mountpoint; cd /mnt/mountpoint; dd if=/dev/sda5 ... of=sql-xen-vm12:35
stdincoty_: they won't12:35
coty_why12:35
stevethepirateYa. Got that.. Already.. Just forgotten how to -see- which harddrive dev to add..12:35
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stdincoty_: the next version on shipit will be the next LTS release12:35
coty_stdin: which is12:35
coty_stdin: when will it be out12:36
stdincoty_: nobody knows yet12:36
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coty_stdin: so it might be a newer version?12:36
stdincoty_: maybe 8.0412:36
hellokthuluHello, *...12:36
frutaxok perhaps more clues to my problem could be found trying to solve this: when i try to apt-get install kde-devel, the following packages have unmet dependencies: kdesdk, libarts1-dev, kdelibs4-dev, kdebase-dev, libkonq4-dev...what's my problem?12:36
coty_stdin: sweet12:36
digital_logicDrX you should have seen the fiile be created as soon as you started the command12:36
coty_stdin: so i have to wait a year12:36
DrXam I wrong to presume >sql-xen-vm will go to the current device?  should I have done >/mnt/mountpoint/sql-xen-vm ?12:36
hellokthuluAnyone know why Firefox would suddenly be unwilling to start up?12:36
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digital_logicwhich leads me to beleive that it isn't being redirected to the right place, *or* something else is wrong12:37
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digital_logicDrx: no, that's right (it should)12:37
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cotystdin: I cant figure out how to upgrade to the new 7.04 without the cd12:37
AZNSLDWhat are iptables?12:37
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cotystdin: could you help me12:37
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digital_logicI dunno why it shouldn't.12:37
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DrXdigital_logic: hmmm, I started it briefly w/o bzip & it did create a file, but now nothing12:37
digital_logic*isn't12:37
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stdincoty: look at the /topic12:37
digital_logicit deleted it?12:37
digital_logic?!12:37
AZNSLDCould some one help me with the firewall..12:37
AZNSLD?12:37
DrXfound it ... it's creating it in /etc12:38
Yorokobihellokthulu, run firefox from the command line and see what error it tosses out.12:38
cotystdin: ?12:38
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eilkerAZNSLD> what u need ?12:38
digital_logicthat's inventive.12:38
hellokthuluAZNSLD: You'll probably want to track down a 'iptables' tutorial... ask Google...12:38
AZNSLDumm12:38
DrXgood thing I've got 10GB free12:38
YorokobiAZNSLD, or shorewall12:38
hellokthuluYorokobi: It does nothing, no errors, just returns instantly.  ps can't find anything...!12:38
eilker!guarddog12:38
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).12:38
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stdincoty: "The channel topic is "Kubuntu Support Channel | Beta! http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php | Test edgy->feisty upgrade https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade ..."12:38
AZNSLDI want to get apache2 working on my computer12:38
digital_logicif you wantt to stop it, nothing bad will happen (youd' just have to start over)12:38
AZNSLDbut I cant figure it out12:38
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digital_logicbut you could add bs=128k and it should go a bit faster12:38
cotystdin: i hae tried12:38
Yorokobihellokthulu, have you recently installed any new extensions (or upgraded them)?12:39
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cotystdin: i dont think i did it right12:39
eilkerAZNSLD> is it installed, if so ,      sudo   /etc/init.d/apache212:39
samir85Hey guys, I just installed Kubuntu Feisty. Do you have any idea why qtpart says my usb harddrive is status hidden ?12:39
digital_logicDrX: be back in a bit.12:39
Yorokobi!apache | AZNSLD12:39
ubotuAZNSLD: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:39
m_tadeuhi everyone...how do I get SMP to work?12:39
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hellokthuluYorokobi: Hmmmm, I think the recent upgrade did an update to 1.5.0.11 (?)12:39
stdincoty: just follow the instructions from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade , should be fine12:39
hellokthuluDon't think I had any extensions  installed.12:39
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Yorokobihellokthulu, that's a pretty old version of FF12:39
DrXdigital_logic: by upping the -z1c  to a higher level of compression, how much space would I save versus how much extra time?12:39
hellokthuluWell, this machine is running Dapper.12:40
digital_logiclittle space, and LOTS of time12:40
cotystdin: i have12:40
Yorokobiheh, upgrade :)12:40
hellokthuluheh :-)12:40
cotystdin: they make no sense12:40
samir85I cannot see my usb harddrive, even though I can see it in qtparted. Can somebody help me ?12:40
Sannefrutax: can you paste the full output of your installation attempt to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?12:40
digital_logic(though actually it depends on the files)12:40
stdincoty: what part are you stuck on?12:40
hellokthuluYorokobi: Any other ideas?  Konqueror starts up fine and hits the net fine...12:40
cotythe begging12:40
cotybegining12:41
cotyall12:41
cotyof it12:41
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Yorokobihellokthulu, you could try reverting to a previous install/release12:41
stra!phpmyadmin12:41
hellokthuluYorokobi: Cool, how do I do that?12:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
Yorokobihellokthulu, do you have synaptic (or kinaptic) installed?12:41
hellokthuluYup12:41
straadept12:41
hellokthulusynaptic, at lesat12:42
LeeJunFanDrX: btw - if you want to watch the progress start another shell and do this: while [ 1 ]  ; do kill -USR1 `pidof dd` ; sleep 3s ; done    then switch back to the shell where dd is running and it'll output progress12:42
hellokthulu*least12:42
Yorokobihellokthulu, find firefox in synaptic, highlight it and then use Ctrl-E and pick out an old version12:42
hellokthuluTHANKS!12:42
hellokthuluI'm on it :-)12:42
DrXLeeJunFan: it shows 0 blocks, that's not good12:42
stra!3d12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
DrXLeeJunFan: does bzip2 create an intermediate file?12:43
LeeJunFanDrX: no, it'll use as much ram as possible - then should flush to the file.12:43
LeeJunFanDrX: it sounds like dd isn't even reading anything if it says 0 blocks.12:44
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bronze_0_1Anyone know, (or know where I can find out), if/when kubuntu is going to adopt Firefox 2.0?12:44
LeeJunFanDrX: I happen to be wiping a 120G hd right now with dd, watching my progress in the same way.12:44
DrXLeeJunFan: yeah, and ls -s -S doesn't show any large & growing files either12:44
stdinbobbyd: it already has12:44
stdinbronze_0_1:  it already has12:44
pollyoI'm installing ubuntu gnome inaddition to kde can I use either update system to update my entire system?  Are they just shells for apt-get?12:45
LeeJunFanDrX: are you root in the shell you started dd from?12:45
pollyoAre they just gui's for apt-get?12:45
Sannepollyo: basically yes12:45
DrXLeeJunFan: no, I'm in a second shell12:45
bronze_0_1stdin: so I can just apt-get install firefox to get it?12:45
hellokthulubronze_0_1: It's in 6.1012:45
LeeJunFanDrX: I mean - did you run dd as root?12:45
stdinbronze_0_1: you on edgy or dapper?12:45
DrXLeeJunFan: yes12:45
Sannepollyo: synaptic (gnome) will have a log of only what you installed through itself, though.12:45
bronze_0_1stdin: umm Idunno.  (blushes)12:46
DrXit shows the output file, but it's 0 blocks & no files are present that are growing12:46
LeeJunFanDrX: and in the shell you ran the line I gave you you also need to be root.12:46
pollyoSanne: Oh...12:46
stdin!version | bronze_0_112:46
ubotubronze_0_1: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell12:46
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pollyoSanne: Will that impact updates?  Also will adept be able to see anything installed with synaptic?12:46
DrXLeeJunFan: I've got 3GB of RAM, but that won't cover 10-60GB of data12:46
LeeJunFanDrX: as a normal user you can't send a kill signal to a process owned by root ( your dd)12:46
bronze_0_1dapper12:46
bronze_0_16.0612:47
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stdinpollyo: they both use the same datebase, I use both all the time12:47
stdinbronze_0_1: you'll need to enable backports then12:47
pollyostdin: Ok.12:47
DrXLeeJunFan: should I stop this and restart the job to /mnt/mountpoint (/dev/sda6)?12:47
stdin!backports12:47
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging12:47
Sannepollyo: yes, the synaptic log is not the overall apt/dpkg log, it's just a conveinience for the user. The system install logs are in /var/log/dpkg*.log12:47
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LeeJunFanDrX: what's the line you're using again to create the backup?12:47
bronze_0_1stdin: thank you12:47
stdin:)12:47
aaroncampbell_Once I have selected an installed the beryl packages, how do I start them, and see how they work?12:47
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kingshello12:48
neil__beryl-manager starts beryl12:48
stdinaaroncampbell_: start beryl-manager12:48
neil__itll be obvious if its working :(12:48
neil__:)*12:48
kingsanyone got a speedtouch modem ?12:48
DrXdd if=/dev/sda5 | bzip2 -z1c >sql-xen-vm12:48
kingsI have a connection but I cant ping anything12:48
kingsIm a little confused - I think its something to do with my network configuration or something12:48
pollyoBBL12:49
aaroncampbell_stdin: is that going to be in a menu somewhere?  Or should it be run from a prompt?12:49
DrXLeeJunFan: drive lights are flashing drive 0 then drive 1 as I would expect on RAID 1 pair12:49
EnfiladeHow do i run alsaconf in feisty?12:49
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stdinaaroncampbell_: Kmenu -> System -> Beryl Manager (should be there, if not just press Alt-F2 and type beryl-manager in)12:50
claudin kubuntu 7.04 how do i make beryl my default window manager?12:50
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stdinkings: what can't you ping? what have you tried pinging? are there any other network issues?12:50
stdinclaud: Feisty question/support in #ubuntu+112:51
Yorokobiclaud, create a symbolic link to beryl-manager in your .kde/Autostart directory12:51
stdinEnfilade: Feisty question/support in #ubuntu+112:51
DrXLeeJunFan: guess what?  now there's a large and growing file on /mnt/mountpoint (you must have been right that it was using RAM first, then it must have flushed the file when it ran out of space)12:51
EnfiladeCheers12:51
LeeJunFanDrX: odd, that line should work, I just tried it with /dev/zero as a test.12:51
kingsstdin, hi - i can only seem to ping the P-t-P:195.112.5.30 - whatever that is12:51
claudyes.. but i have kubuntu :)12:51
LeeJunFanDrX: cool.12:51
stdinclaud: doesn't matter12:52
claudk12:52
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DrXLeeJunFan: is there a way to estimate completion time?12:52
aaroncampbell_stdin or neil__ : It works fine...but it removed all my close/minimize buttons12:52
digital_logicDrX: back12:52
kingsstdin, I followed the speedtouch guide on ubuntu and when I run the script I get a successful connection apparently - but I cant ping google by name or by ip address12:52
digital_logicYes, you can get the current speed from DD12:52
stdinaaroncampbell_: try minimising and restoring the windows (from the taskbar)12:52
kingsstdin, I get connect: Network is unreachable12:53
digital_logicthen using a pencil & calculator you can figure out how much longer  (since you *KNOW* the drive is 60gb12:53
aaroncampbell_I can do that...but the buttons don't return12:53
stdinkings: but you can connect to google?12:53
digital_logickill -s SIGINFO {dd's PID}12:53
YorokobiAaronCampbell_ it may be because of the emerald theme you're using. Right click the beryl-manager icon in the sys tray and go to emerald settings12:53
stdinaaroncampbell_: I found that if I waited for a while, they came back12:54
Yorokobiand pick a different theme12:54
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digital_logicthough, for some reason SIGINFO dosen't seem right...12:54
LeeJunFanDrX: it's tough, that's what that while.... line should do for you. At least to some degree, normally it outputs lines showing dd's progress like: 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 50.3547 seconds, 20.8 MB/s12:54
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digital_logicall versions I've seen have done EVERYTHING in bytes, and based copyied data on the size of the bs=# parameter12:55
stdindigital_logic: kill -USR1 [pid of dd]  shows the info12:55
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digital_logicsince I don't think you set one, I can't say for certian what you're systems default blocksize is12:55
aaroncampbell_Yorokobi: I don't have an icon for it in the tray.12:55
aaroncampbell_stdin: I guess we'll see12:55
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YorokobiAaronCampbell_, no? it looks like a red diamond12:56
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kingsstdin, nope cant connect to anything at all12:56
YorokobiTry K -> Settings -> Emerald Theme Manager12:56
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stdinwhat does ifconfig show?12:56
stdinkings: ^12:57
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LeeJunFandigital_logic: yeah, it only updates at new blocks, so dd will show 0 bytes until it's done with a block.12:57
YorokobiI presume you're using emerald and not one of the others12:57
DrXLeeJunFan: no chance it will corrupt the dd backup?12:57
aaroncampbell_Yorokobi: nope12:57
LeeJunFanDrX: no, as long as you only use -USR112:57
AZNSLDhey12:57
AZNSLDaznsld@aznsld-desktop:~$ apache212:57
AZNSLDapache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName12:57
AZNSLD(13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8012:57
AZNSLDno listening sockets available, shutting down12:57
AZNSLDUnable to open logs12:57
AZNSLDwhat does all this mean?12:57
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kingsstdin, I have a ppp0 connection with my static ip in it12:57
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neil__Hey, I removed kde and reverted back to ubuntu, but beryl still sees kwin as being installed..12:57
neil__how do i remove it?12:58
stdinAZNSLD: if you read the lamp help page, it tells you12:58
AZNSLDoh ok12:58
AZNSLDty12:58
kristjan_what is the proper way to report a bug? Do I have to navigate to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+bugs or filling a bug report in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs is enough then using feisty e.g.?12:58
LeeJunFan!bugs12:58
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots12:58
stdinkings: static? have you set a gateway IP?12:58
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kingsstdin, where do I set that ?12:58
stdinkristjan_: just https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs , as the bug will be filed against the latest version, just mention you're on feisty12:59
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bronze_0_1stdin - update FF2.o was found in the backports repo for edgy, but not dapper (still on 1.5).  It would be foolish of me to install FF2.0 from edgy on dapper, right?12:59
kristjan_LeeJunFan: so it is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs - then what for is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+bugs made available?12:59
stdinkings: System Settings -> Network Settings, routes tab01:00
DrXblock size = 7660 bytes?  (60G / ending 24021 - beginning 16189), sound right?01:00
stdinbronze_0_1: very, if it's not on dapper, then it's because it doesn't work on dapper01:00
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LeeJunFankristjan_: it's just the build of the page, if you file against a certain release and it's not fixed then your bug won't carry over to the next version. So it's best to file against ubuntu alone.01:00
bronze_0_1stdin: roger.  Thanks.01:01
eilkeris there a way to use ubotu on my desktop ? when i am not on irc too, i like ubotu too much, i wanna know as much as it :D01:01
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kingsstdin, oh in gnome01:01
kingsstdin, im in gnome01:01
bronze_0_1eilker: try asking it out on a date, maybe it'll come home with you after. :-)01:01
stdinbronze_0_1: I think I saw a howto to get it working tho, let me look...01:01
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eilkerbronze_0_1> :D , btw how is your system ? could u set it up ?01:02
stdinkings: ask in #ubuntu then, I don't/won't use gnome so I don't know the place to go to01:02
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bronze_0_1eilker: um, which one? :)01:02
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manfred__test01:03
bronze_0_1eilker: i.e. what was I trying to do?  I have 5 or 6 machines continuously being torn up/down. :)01:03
eilkerbronze_0_1> u obviously  have many : ) u were talking about 5-6 computer deployment etc..01:03
eilkeryeah it is :)01:03
bronze_0_1It do get confusing.01:03
stdinbronze_0_1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion01:03
DrXLeeJunFan: the while didn't work ... probably the wrong process ID?01:03
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bronze_0_1stdin: Great!  thank you again.01:04
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LeeJunFanDrX: did you get an error?01:04
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LeeJunFanDrX: that line is copied and pasted from what I'm running here. remember you need to become root first sudo -s ; then run the while ....01:04
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DrXkill: pidof dd:  arguments must be process or job IDs01:05
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cotycan someone give me a good video converter?01:05
cotyso i cant convert movies for my psp01:05
digital_logicwhy sudo to do -USR1?01:05
archangel_is there anything worth keeping in an old stand alone dvd player thats on the fritz?01:05
stdincoty: mcoder and ffmpeg are good, avidemux for a gui01:05
DrXLeeJunFan: ls -s -S shows bytes, not blocks, huh?01:05
archangel_as far as parts is concerned01:05
neil__I'm using sabnzbd, and it normally auto unrars for me01:06
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kristjan_to disable hplip starting at boot I add no to RUN_HPLIP=? (in /etc/default/hplip)01:06
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LeeJunFanDrX: yeah. ls doesn't know what blocksize dd is using.01:06
neil__i forgot this time, how do i use rar command line to unrar a set of like 50 files?01:06
cotystdin: thanks01:06
LeeJunFanDrX: I've got that same while running here and it's working on 2 dd's I've got going.01:06
LeeJunFanDrX: you have to switch back to the terminal running dd to see what dd outputs.01:06
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DrXLeeJunFan: so, this is going to take all week b/c it's only at 189960801:07
digital_logicls -h01:07
stdinneil__: unrar e file.rar (it will look for the file.r??? files)01:07
neil__thanks :)01:07
digital_logicthus why I was adamant about setting bs=something big01:07
LeeJunFanDrX: yeah, that's 2g. it'll take a good while.01:08
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chodenite all01:09
DrXdigital_logic: I'm happy to change it, but if u pick a block size larger than the native size won't it just waste space since dd is an exact copy?  (that's one reason I created a 60G identical partition so I would ensure same block size)01:09
DrXLeeJunFan: what if I lose the compression?  how much of a hit do you think I'm taking?01:09
LeeJunFanDrX: it would probably help quite a bit.01:10
DrXdigital_logic: why SO slow?  i could just about hand write the data at this rate.... :(01:10
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digital_logicI can assure you, you wouldn't be able to write out a few billion bytes as quickly as even a very slow drive can01:11
DrXdigital_logic: joking01:11
digital_logicI know.01:11
elvisI have a problem guys01:11
DrXwhat if I dd w/o compression and THEN gzip or bzip2 -- end result about the same amount of time?01:11
elvisI was running 64 bit version of ubuntu before and it didnt happen then01:11
digital_logicThe way dd uses 'blocksize' isn't quite the same as the 'blockssize' of a drive01:11
Daisuke_Ido!dolphin01:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:11
Daisuke_Ido:\01:12
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elvisbut when I view pages or drag windows the system lags bad01:12
digital_logicif you set the blocksize really big, it just measnt that DD will take large HUNKS into memory at once, then try to write them to its output01:12
elvisanyone know a way to fix?01:12
digital_logicits not actually wasting space, its just the diffrence between moving a mountain one grain of dirt at a time, or an entire truckload at a time.01:12
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digital_logicEither way you'd get it done, but doing it one grain at a time would mean _LOTS_ of useless walking back and fourth (which is exactly what you're having dd & bzip2's subroutines do with a small blocksize)01:13
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DrXdigital_logic: if I restart w/ a larger block size, would it finish sooner?01:14
elvisso can anyone help me? Im using 6.10 if that helps01:14
digital_logicyou're doing LOTS of read requests, and an EQUAL number of write requests, for blocks smaller than the blocksize of the drive anyway, and either way, its going to be one giant continuous sparsefile01:14
digital_logicit should01:14
stdinelvis: what kernel? the -386 or -generic ?01:14
digital_logicis this SCSI or SATA?01:14
DrXwhat do you suggest for max performance w/o sacrificing file integrity?01:15
hansenspeaking of moving truckloads of data. How do you guys deal with backing up a regular desktop computer these days?01:15
elvisI think 38601:15
elvisbut how do i tell for sure01:15
KyralUSB HD?01:15
DrXbtw, how much risk do I incur adding compression to dd?01:15
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stdinelvis: uname -r01:15
KyralServer on the same subnet?01:15
elvisgeneric01:15
KyralRAID? :P01:15
elvismy bad01:15
digital_logicyou shouldn't need to worry about it, unless you have reason to suspect your memory system or harddrives of currupting data on you01:15
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digital_logic(which would mean many other weird things should be happening)01:15
stdinelvis: was going to say, -generic is normally faster01:16
DrXdigital_logic: I'm not so sure about the handwriting things  ;)01:16
DrXdigital_logic: so, what do you suggest I use for max performance?01:16
digital_logichuh?01:16
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elvisIt is so wierd because I installed a 64 bit version previously and it worked fine01:16
digital_logicwhat kind of drive is it?01:16
stevethepirateHello01:16
digital_logicscsi or sata?01:16
elvisnow that im running the 32 bit version it dont work01:16
elvisfine01:16
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stdinelvis: what graphics hardware?01:17
DrXSATA01:17
hansenKyral: yes, I've been thinking about getting an USB (or better eSATA?) hd, but just performing a full backup takes a long time with to 0.5 TB hds. Do you know of any fast backup scripts?01:17
digital_logicDrX: Scsi, sata, usb, or IDE on a PCI adapater?01:17
digital_logicah, what generation?01:17
digital_logicSATA2?01:17
elvisits an onboard nvidia01:17
Kyralhansen: Incremental backup01:17
Kyralhansen: use rsync :P01:17
DrXSATA 2 300 on HW RAid controller w/ big cache01:17
digital_logicAh, so its a raid01:17
digital_logicstriped?01:17
stevethepirateI saw in a picture of a program that ran on the side of the desktop that displayed info like about system speed.. Disk capacity.. Etc.. Anyone know what its called?01:17
stdinelvis: maybe try the nvidia driver, see if it's a graphics issue01:17
DrXmirrored (thankfully, it's reading 0 and writing 1 but you can hardly tell)01:18
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digital_logicah, ok01:18
stdinelvis: or, if you're using the nvidia driver, try the nv one01:18
hansenat least that's the problem we have with out mailserver. It uses a tar-based backup script to make the backup and then uploads it to external storage. Incremental backups are usually not too slow, but the full backup done every week takes forever01:18
digital_logicin that case, w'll be nice to it, and I'd say try bs=512k01:18
Kyralhansen: Thats why you do it every week and not everyday :P01:18
hansenmailserver == cyrus mailstore == one file per message01:18
elvishow do i find those drivers01:18
digital_logicyou could probably go up to 8192k (8mb), but you should prolly be nice to your drives01:19
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hansenKyral: I had it failing a couple of time because it didn't complete in 24 hours before the next incr. backup -- it's that bad :)01:19
digital_logicand I've never seen big performence increases on anything above 1024k01:19
elvisjust look on google and find the line you need to type in?01:19
Kyralhansen: Don't use mailstore?01:19
stdinelvis: nv is the default nvidia driver, there is a guide to installing the nvidia (binary) one01:19
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stdin!nvidia | elvis01:19
ubotuelvis: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:19
digital_logic(but then again, you've got newer hardware than my ATA33 IDE junk, and old SCSI2 server parts)01:19
hansencyrus maildirs or MailDir is the only way that performs well enough for disconnected imap01:20
Kyral*shrug*01:20
stevethepirateAnyone know the program?01:20
KyralI don't know a lot about MailServs01:20
neil__hey, Is there a program like daemon tools available for linux?01:20
KyralI like POP3 :P01:20
hansenI was just wondering if there is something faster/better/nicer than tar to base a backup script on01:20
Kyralhansen: There is probably01:21
Kyralhansen: Google :P01:21
stevethepirateAnyone?01:21
digital_logicand I wouldn't worry too much about data integrety (weather though DD or bzip2), either way unless you suspect your system's memory/drive controllers of curropting data on you, I don't think its at all likely (though natrually-not impossible)01:21
Kyralneil__: What's Daemon Tools?01:21
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stdinstevethepirate: probably a superkaramba thing01:21
hansenstevethepirate: which program?01:21
DrXdigital_logic, would 8192 drive completion 4x faster & w/o sacrificing data integrity?01:21
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stdinneil__: mount01:22
hansenneil__: just install daemon tools?01:22
digital_logicread what I just said01:22
stevethepirateHan' read above01:22
neil__stdin: yeah just clicked! stupid me01:22
Yorokobistevethepirate, gkrellm is one option01:22
digital_logicbigger block size does not mean you loose integrity01:22
DrXdigital_logic: did, so 8192 is a better plan?01:22
neil__Windows doesnt do 'mounting', but as linux does by default, why would I need an app for it :)01:22
digital_logicit just means how much data will be floating in memory at any one point in time before being written to disk01:22
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digital_logicsure, if you want to (remember to make it 8192k, because 8192 bytes is very small)01:23
hansenneil__: get it from http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html and install manually. Because of DJ Bernstein's weird policies I dont think you will find a nice .deb or .rpm or whatever01:23
stdinneil__: for files (like ISOs) just add "-o loop" to the end of the mount command01:23
stdin!iso01:23
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.01:23
stevethepirateAnyone used superkaramba ?01:23
DrXso, dd if=/dev/sda5 bs=8192k | bzip2 -z1c > /output/files.bz2 ?01:25
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digital_logicone other thing, if you're not going to use Bzip2, you ~NEED~ to have the destination partition be LARGER than 60GB, beacuse the destination will have things like a filesystem eating up drivespace, but DD will be reading & writing the sourcedrive's filesystem TO the designation file (making it be EXACTLY the size of the partition, INCLUDING formatting blocks, which would still be in use on the destination partiton)01:25
digital_logicyes, that should do it.01:25
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DrXdigital_logic: won't they both use the same amount plus won't I have overhead on the source for the Xen VM file and won't the compression keep me well under?01:26
stevethepirateIf i have a .tar.gz ... How do i install it?01:26
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digital_logicyes01:26
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stdinhansen: it doesn't have any eyecandy on it's own, you have to get the widgets from kde-look.org01:26
DrXdigital_logic: so the command I specified is good?  & why not go larger on block size, e.g., 16384k?01:26
stdinstevethepirate: it's an archive, like zip, you don't "install" it, you extract it, use ark01:27
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stevethepirateThen?01:27
DrXLeeJunFan: you onboard with this restart & that it should finish sooner?01:27
stdinthen you can see what's in the archive01:27
stevethepirateI'm sure theres a single command to unpack and install a tarball..01:27
digital_logicbut if you wanted it to get done as soon as mechanicially possible (vs waiting for the CPU to compress & mechanical limits), you wouldn't use bzip2 ---- BUT then you'd have the problem that the output file would end up being LARGER than the free space on the 2nd partition01:28
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stevethepirateLik rpm -something01:28
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DrXdigital_logic: what about gzip vs bzip2?01:28
stdinstevethepirate: that's for rpm files01:28
Yorokobistevethepirate, tar zxvf <tarfile>01:28
digital_logicas I recall, gzip dosen't do pipes very well01:28
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stevethepirateSweet.01:29
DrXhehe, it just finished01:29
stdinbzip2 has higher compression, but takes longer to compress and de-compress, as well as more ram01:29
DrXmust be blocks, not bytes01:29
AZNSLDhmm01:29
AZNSLDOk ok...01:29
AZNSLDI got another problem01:29
digital_logicit did?01:30
digital_logicimpressive.01:30
DrXdigital_logic: this is the fastest system I've ever seen01:30
kingsstdin, hi I got it working thansk01:30
stdinkings: was it just setting a default route?01:31
AZNSLDHey how do I fix Make_socket?01:31
kingsstdin, however now my ppp0 connects and i can ping everything - but now i cant ping anything on the internal 192.168.0.1 network = do I need to set a gw for the eth0 as well01:31
DrXdigital_logic: I want to do another backup using a different utility (my future hangs in the balance), so is there a built-in GUI backup tool I can use to backup an unmounted block device?01:31
kingsstdin, i removed the default gateway as it was pointing to 192.168.0.1 an dreplaced it with my static ip address01:31
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digital_logicthen again, almost anything makes my webserver look like...uh...a pentium166-mmx (which it is)01:32
YorokobiDrX, have you looked at bacula ?01:32
DrXYorokobi: I've used it, but I don't know if it can backup an unmounted device?01:32
YorokobiI don't either :)01:32
digital_logicDrx: I dunno, I can't help you there, me and GUIs don't get along, therefore I just use my custom scripts, functions, and thirtybillion other tricks I've come up with to do things.01:32
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digital_logic(naturally, they're all at home, where they do me absoloutely no good to help you)01:33
eilkerhow can i get songs from last fm any idea ? i use amarok01:33
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digital_logicwell, back to coding.01:33
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stdinkings: yeah, you need a route for each netowrk01:34
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DrXdigital_logic: isn't there another dd version called ddsomething that's similar01:34
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stdinkings: something like this should work "route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0"01:34
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digital_logic2sigh01:35
LeeJunFanDrX: dd_rescue I think01:35
digital_logic2I've got a function named something like that!01:35
LeeJunFanit will skip bad blocks01:35
digital_logic2or you can use the padding (or is it swabbing?, or one of the other umpteen vauge similar otpions dd has) to do it.01:36
DrXdigital_logic: can I rename the bz2 file without causing a problem?01:36
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DrXdigital_logic: it's not letting me rename, huh?01:37
stdineilker: #amarok ?01:37
eilkerstdin> i found it already01:38
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digital_logic2yes01:38
digital_logic2it must not be finished then01:39
eilkerstdin> i am gonna rip :D01:39
digital_logic2*OR* the system thinks its still in use.01:39
hansenhmm, most of those superkaramba gadgets dont work01:39
stevethepirateDamm.. Pc restarted for no reason.01:39
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hansenI tried a whole bunch and only zing and GlassMonitor work, and that GlassMonitor looks broken because the layout is not resizing to be able to display 4 cpu cores...01:40
DrXdigital_logic, good point, how do I ensure it's good?01:40
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aznsldHello all01:42
digital_logic2I don't know.01:43
aznsld!apache201:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
digital_logic2run top and see if dd is still runnign01:43
aznsld!apache01:43
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:43
digital_logic2ng01:43
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MasterManX2006hey01:43
MasterManX2006what u guys use for irc01:43
stevethepirateIrssi01:43
MasterManX2006irssi01:43
MasterManX2006is that the best for kub01:43
LjLan irc client. usually, sometimes telnet or netcat, though.01:43
Stormzoekerkopete ;)01:44
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stevethepirateLol.. Um.. How do i let my pc read the sensors inside my pc?01:44
LjL!lm-sensors01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lm-sensors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:44
LjLhm?01:44
LjL!info lm-sensors01:44
ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.0-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1472 kB01:44
LjLbah01:44
aznsldphpmyadmin01:45
aznsldopps sry01:45
DrXdigital_logic, nope01:45
stdin!sensors | stevethepirate01:45
ubotustevethepirate: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto01:45
DrXdigital_logic: found it, it's called dd_rescue01:45
stevethepirateSo if i get that.. Superkaramba can read off that?01:45
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digital_logic2you might try restarting the computer (if that's possible)01:45
DrXsure, but what about dd_rescue?01:46
digital_logic2what about it?01:46
DrXsomeone suggested it's better than dd & would that be a good second choice for backup?01:46
DrXor should I use something entirely different01:46
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digital_logic2oh for a GUI app?01:47
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DrXdigital_logic: d/n know if dd_rescue is gui or not01:47
katarahi, i have a problem. When i try to swith betwen windows, i have to click on the upper bar of the windows or i cant put it on the fron of my screen01:47
katarahow can i change this?01:47
DrXdigital_logic: not picky, I'll use anything that's reliable...01:47
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digital_logic2well, I know I'm happy with the CLI stuff, which clearly you have.01:49
DrXdigital_logic, concerned b/.c the resulting bzip2 file is under 2GB of a 60GB image, sounds questionable01:49
digital_logic2how much data was on the drive01:49
digital_logic2do you know?01:49
digital_logic2and what kind, because text files compress really well, but movies and images don't.01:49
DrXdigital_logic, maybe 5-8GB (Windows 2003 Server + SQL 2005 Standard)01:50
DrXdigital_logic, dd output reported handling 64GB01:50
digital_logic2in that case, its ENTIRELY POSSIBLE it did compress it that much01:50
digital_logic2Wait....is this an NTFS drive?01:50
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digital_logicfinally01:52
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kristjan_anyone here recompiled kernel in edgy eft?01:53
DrXdigital_logic: I originally formatted it ext3, but I think Xen reformats a block device that you give it as some kind of disk image (gparted says it's a LInux Native partition type)01:53
DrXdigital_logic: I think that's why I can't mount it.01:53
hansenstevethepirate, ubotu: did you figure out lm-sensors? I have it installed but I wonder how to configure it for my hardware and how to get ksensors to display anything useful01:53
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digital_logicso, then why/how is windows2k3 on there?01:53
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stevethepirateHow do i kill superkaramba?01:55
DrXdigital_logic: it's a Xen VM image01:55
MuJkill `pidof superkaramba`01:56
tmbgor pkill superkaramba01:56
hansenI see this output from sensors: http://pastebin.ca/41598201:56
hansenbesides temp2, the others look reasonable :)01:57
hansenbut I was kind of expecting voltages and such things too01:57
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stevethepirateThanks a lot people.. See ya in the future!01:59
stevethepirateI've got work to do now.. Accounting is soo lame.02:00
eilkerUndefined argument in option spec  // what is spec? what does this mean ?02:00
DrXdigital_logic: how do I reverse the process?02:00
tmbghansen, this seems helpful. did you follow something like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278002:01
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kristjan_doesn't info you can get with lmsensors depend on your bios?02:01
MuJeilker: what are you doing?02:02
tmbgdepends on configuring for your sensor chips, apparently.02:02
hansentmbg: yes, I ran sensors-detect and set up the modprobe files to load the stuff sensors-detect found02:02
LeeJunFanDrX: bunzip2 -c [filename]  | dd of=/dev/[device] 02:02
digital_logicyou mean write back to disk?02:02
digital_logicyes02:02
eilkerMuJ> trying to rip some mp3s from last fm02:02
digital_logicyou shouldn't need the bs=(whateveryouset), but it wouldn't hurt02:03
kristjan_tmbg: yeah but usually you see all info you can get from sensors in bios02:03
tmbghansen, and you're sure your system supports voltage reporting?02:03
digital_logic(and should make it go faster)02:03
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kgxis it possible to get the contents of wget to stdout (i dont want it to download the file, just get the contents)02:03
hansentmbg: I have no idea :)02:03
hansenmy old box did02:03
tmbghansen, try that BIOS bit that kristjan_ is mentioning then.02:03
stdinkgx: wget URL -O -02:03
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tmbgpoke around in your BIOS and see if you can find all of the monitoring stuff. it may not have it.02:04
tmbgalthough if it's new enough it *should*02:04
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hansentmbg: mentioned where?02:04
r00t_is there an irc room where i can get help wirth php?02:05
kristjan_actually I was thinking about what tmbg said. I think he is right, so ignore my bios rant ;)02:05
kgxstdin: thanks02:05
BluesKaj!php02:05
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)02:05
stdinr00t_: #php maybe02:05
BluesKajerr #lamp02:05
tmbgkristjan_, it kind of makes sense. most manufacturers do put stuff in their BIOS to read their sensor chips, but not always. I think mine reports temperature and fan speed, but not voltages. maybe it does volts, can't remember.02:05
stdinr00t_: or ##php02:06
hansenic, you mean reboot and have a look02:06
tmbgyup02:06
hansenI'll do that next time I have to reboot02:07
kristjan_tmbg: is lmsensors best? (I should try it out, cause my laptop bios won't show any temperature or fan speed at all)02:07
tmbgI haven't gotten mine fully set up yet.02:07
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tmbgI'll get back with you ;)02:07
hansenI dont think there is any alernative to lmsensors02:07
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kristjan_btw, there do you get lmsensors? I can't find it in multiverse02:09
kristjan_ah ok package name is lm-sensors02:09
hansenI guess it's easiest if some kind soul with the same motherboard as you has published a sensors.conf to reuse, but in my case I didn't find anything02:09
tmbgwell just finished setting it up. it seems alright. I don't get voltages either though. I get temps and fans.02:09
tmbgit may pick up more if I reboot but I wouldn't be suprised if it couldn't read volts.02:11
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=== hansen wonders how to map the generated labels to real hardware... I guess temp1 and temp3 are CPU temps (34-35degC) and temp4 is case temp (30degC) ?
tmbgthat will depend on your sensor and all that jazz. it's hard for these kind of tools to know what is what.02:12
hansensmsc47b397-isa-0480 sounds like something on the motherboard, ie. it wont measure gfx temp or fan right?02:13
tmbgyou'll have to figure that yourself, I haven't figured out where to set the labels yet myself.02:13
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kristjan_I see that lm-sensors needs i2c kernel modules, but isn't i2c blacklisted in edgy eft?02:14
Daisuke_Idoquestion: say i run a program in wine.  it changes the resolution to 640x480, and crashes without giving my resolution back.  is there a way to do so without restarting x?02:14
BluesKajgamerz....02:14
hansenI guess it's all guesswork with those sensors unless the mobo manufacturor or system integrator publishes a matching sensors.conf...02:14
kristjan_Daisuke_Ido: use krandrtray02:14
eilker!test > eilker02:14
hansenkristjan_: why is that blacklisted?02:15
Daisuke_Idokrandrtray?02:16
kristjan_hansen: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - blacklist i2c_i801 - is that one of many i2c modules?02:16
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kristjan_!krandrtray02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about krandrtray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
Daisuke_Idonothing for !info krandrtray either02:16
kristjan_Daisuke_Ido: it's installed by default in kubuntu02:17
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kristjan_alt-f2 and krandtray02:17
kristjan_*krandrtray02:17
hansenkristjan_: right, it says "# causes failure to suspend on HP compaq nc6000 (Ubuntu: #10306)"02:17
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ksnipawas wondering is there a fix to a super karmaba bug where my widges have a grey box around them, when I resume out of a screen saver?02:18
Daisuke_Idoooh02:18
Daisuke_Idothat's nice02:18
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kristjan_hmm, I guess blacklisted is one particular i2c module, cause I got i2c_ec module listed in lsmod02:19
wimpiesanybody around that uses 'Keep' backup system ?02:19
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BluesKajmore  darn probs with eye candy lately , must be a fact of life for a mature OS .   :)02:20
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hansenkristjan_: I have i2c_ec, i2c_isa and i2c_core loaded02:20
kristjan_do lm-sensors need a frontend, like ksensors to display info, or with what command do I run lm-sensors?02:21
BluesKajppl become obsessed with the window dressing02:21
hansenplus a module "smsc47b397" that i2c_isa depends on, which i guess is a driver for a particular sensors chip02:21
BluesKajand then there's hansen :)02:22
kristjan_how do I use lm-sensors?02:22
hansenBluesKaj: ok, I admit it. I'm just bored tonight :)02:22
MuJtype sensors02:22
kristjan_MuJ: I get "Can't access procfs/sysfs file"02:23
MuJdid you run sensors-detect and stuff first? :|02:23
hansenbored and trying to get the last few details working with kubuntu on my new totally overkill hp workstation :)02:23
BluesKajhey just ignore me , i know you have aprob...Im just funnin ya02:23
kristjan_MuJ: running now02:24
BluesKaj<----had a a few tonite02:24
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BluesKajNice  hansen ... I have a rudimentary Compaq pc ... must be nice to have overkill :)02:25
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Daisuke_Idobuild them yourself and you'll never go wrong02:26
Daisuke_Idounless you screw up02:26
Daisuke_Idothen it could explode, but meh02:26
DrXcan I reliably write a 2GB tar file to an NTFS drive mounted under Linux?02:26
MuJexplode? nah :D02:26
Daisuke_IdoMuJ: no thermal paste/grease + no HSF02:27
Daisuke_Idoexplode.02:27
MuJ== core melting02:27
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Daisuke_Idothat's a pretty big screwup though02:27
BluesKajntfs mounted under linux ?  how so /02:27
BluesKaj?02:27
MuJbut it won't explode02:27
Daisuke_Idothat's a shame02:27
BluesKajpartition maybe02:27
Iced_Teammmmmm chocolate core melting.... mmmm02:27
DrXnot so much?02:28
Daisuke_Idoor move to europe and switch the voltage on the PSU to 11002:28
MuJmmm.. iced tea.. mmm02:28
Iced_TeaMuJ, damn straight02:28
MuJ:P02:28
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MuJDaisuke_Ido: I've done that02:28
MuJit still doesn't explode.. just gives little bit of blue smoke :)02:29
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Daisuke_Idoaww02:29
Daisuke_Idothat's disappointing02:29
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r00t_MuJ: i joust lost the wire i jerry riged onto my laptop fan,so i had to stop useing it becaus eof the risk of melting it.i did jeerryrigg a old 486 fan to it with ducktape to copy a few importnat files but sadly itll be missed02:31
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vizzyhello, i have th efollowing problem when i try to install 'scons' which is needed to compile blender3d from cvs02:34
vizzypaste: http://rafb.net/p/A2oHJq64.html02:34
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philfo1ok, my computer is being HORRIBLY slow & I think it's the graphics card.  I did the ATI radeon driver install last night & right then it slowed down.  makes me think it's the driver.  glxinfo shows me: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".  any ideas?02:37
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LjLvizzy: it looks like some sort of disk error to me02:38
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philfo1I absolutely need this machine up & running since I have a very importnat rush order, photo restoration due tomorrow evening.  all help is appreciated.02:38
LjLcheck your syslog for I/O errors on your drives02:38
LjLmaybe run a smartctl02:38
vizzyLjL, :O ok, checking02:38
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linux_userhi all! Does anybody know - does https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ work?02:39
BluesKajphilfo1, type "fglrxinfo"02:39
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philfo1what do you know.02:39
MuJlinux_user: hmm? yes?02:40
philfo1the mesa3d.org driver glitch noted on the ATI pages02:40
ksnipaanyone know where I can get kiba-dock from? I checked there website but they do not seem to have the files there for download02:40
philfo1I corrected for that last night.02:40
MuJksnipa: from their svn02:40
icarnSection "Extensions"02:42
icarn Option "Composite" "disable"02:42
icarnEndSection02:42
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lunar-ravendoes anyone know how to make flash work in konqueror (for amd64)?02:43
icarnATI, in order to have your direct rendering (dri) check your xorg.conf02:43
philfo1icarn: that for me?02:43
icarnyes02:43
posingaspopularlunar-raven, yes02:43
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posingaspopular!flash02:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:43
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash02:43
icarnrather for vizzy02:44
posingaspopularlunar-raven, is that the one you need to view youtube?02:44
lunar-raveni believe so, thanks02:44
vizzyhm?02:44
LeeJunFan!flash64 | lunar-raven02:44
ubotulunar-raven: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava02:44
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lunar-ravenohh thats the link i needed02:45
lunar-ravenbecause 64 works differently02:45
lunar-raventhanks02:45
lunar-raven:)02:45
LeeJunFanlunar-raven: that's firefox but maybe it'll help with konq too.02:45
icarnok it is for you philfo1 (sorry:)02:45
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philfo1no worries.02:46
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gumby600mIn Ubuntu 6.10, when Konsole has some sort of activity (i.e. top updates) while i'm in another window (say, Firefox), it flashes in the system tray... it's /extremely/ annoying.  How do I make Konsole stop flashing in my system tray??02:46
icarnphilfo1 : did you do that ? :sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control libqt3-mt02:46
aznsldlol02:46
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philfo1so I'm running "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and inserting your "section..." instead of the ubuntu help pages, correct?02:47
philfo1nope.02:47
icarncorrect, i think02:47
philfo1I consulted uboto for ATI and ran the command lines directly as on the page.02:48
philfo1is it a problem with my driver or with xorg?02:48
icarndid you do : sudo aticonfig --initial02:48
philfo1nope.02:49
philfo1just like on the page, that's all.02:49
icarnand : sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv02:49
WaxyFreshcan anyone give me a hand getting direct rendring working?or at least telling me wether or not its nad option?02:49
WaxyFreshand*02:49
BluesKajicarn, philfo1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-202:49
BluesKajright ?02:49
philfo1ok, where should I start then?02:49
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icarnfor the french page, but same shell : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/fglrx02:49
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BluesKajWaxyFresh,  same : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-202:50
aznsldok02:50
aznsldCould I get some help?02:50
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aznsldOn some MySQL02:50
aznsld/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed02:50
aznslderror: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'02:50
aznsldCheck that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!02:50
joheyWhat is the maximum healthy temperature for an Intel Pentium 4 single core 2.54 GHz? KSensors makes a warning flash at 45 degrees Celcius, but my CPU goes to 60 degrees with full load. Is this very bad?02:50
dirgedollI feel really frusterated. I have kubuntu 6.06 and i want superkaramba and don't understand how to unzip the files or where to put them so it will work. can anyone help?02:50
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icarnaznsld : did you jail your mysql ?02:51
WaxyFreshjohey: it all depens on how much heat your processors desinged for,my laptop one gets tooo hot to tuch while my tower is nice and cool even without a fan02:51
philfo1icarn & blues, thanks for the help.  I'll try running the commands as on the last url sent to me02:51
aznsldicarn | Idon know02:51
joheyWaxyFresh: Where can I find out what my CPU is designed for?02:52
dirgedollcries02:52
aznsldI am a big noob02:52
philfo1BUT, do I need to un install anything?  or just write over?02:52
dirgedollso am i02:52
icarnphilfo1 : i test it 4 2week, that was ok.02:52
dirgedolli dont understand any of this tar file crap02:52
dirgedollheh02:52
aznslddirgedoll you new?02:52
dirgedollyes02:52
aznsldwe are on the same boat02:52
aznsld=)02:53
dirgedoll:)02:53
philfo1icarn: this one? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-202:53
dirgedollI thought this would be easier I guess02:53
aznsld /msg nickserv set unfiltered on02:53
WaxyFreshjohey: try the manufactures page for a tech support number/email  but id think it would be fine<dont trust me02:53
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BluesKajdirgedoll, this not the room to call tar files crap...they do work , most of the time02:54
dirgedolli am asking for help02:54
icarnphilfo1 : may be but : 3 choices for get ati : try this http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/fglrx02:54
dirgedolland im sorry if i offended anyone but i cant seem to get them to work02:54
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dirgedolli will call them carp then02:54
dirgedollheh02:54
joheyWaxyFresh: In the BIOS settings on my motherboard, the CPU overheat warning limit is 75 degrees by default. I don't know if that is a reliable source.02:54
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WaxyFreshjohey: did it come with the processor?02:55
dirgedolli've tried all kinds of stuff and can't get one to work02:55
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kaiwasup02:55
dirgedollhi02:55
kaiare there any programmers in here? I need some help w/ using Subverision in linux02:56
BluesKaj./configure after extractiom ? dirgedoll02:56
joheyWaxyFresh: I bought it all in used condition. I can't tell. But it is not a brand computer, like IBM or Compac or so, but a "home built" thing.02:56
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dirgedollsee I dont understand where i would out the configure or how to properly extract them i guess02:56
dirgedolli am used to windows where you just unzip to the desktop and its done02:57
philfo1icarn:  I have a hard enough time doing this stuff in English.  I'm a 5th day LINUX user.  I don't think I could handle it with french instrustions02:57
dirgedollneither can i02:57
dirgedolli dont understand where to put that /.configure02:57
philfo1it gets easier dirgedoll02:57
WaxyFreshjohey: i dont think you have much to worry aboute but email teh processors manufacture for advice02:57
BluesKajUntarring tar.gz files02:57
BluesKaj#"tar -zvxf file name.tar.gz"02:57
dirgedollwhat is that and where is it supposed to go?02:58
BluesKajUntarring tar.bz2 files02:58
BluesKaj#"tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2"02:58
BluesKajsorry for the flood, just a samll one02:58
dirgedolli downloaded the file onto my desktop02:59
philfo1lets hope babelfish can do it!02:59
dirgedolldo i do something with the terminal after i do that02:59
philfo1nope.  dang02:59
BluesKajyes, dirgedoll, read above03:00
icarnphilfo1 : courage .03:01
joheyWaxyFresh: I found a table at Intel's web site. I don't know which of the 2.53 GHz processors is mine, but all of them in the chart are specifyed for 71 or 72 degrees. Probably nothing to worry about then.03:01
kaino help03:01
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WaxyFreshjohey: its fine03:02
BluesKajjohey, lots of cpu there , nothing to concern yerself about with linux or any OS03:02
philfo1I am that brave, but I really don't feel like going through the headache.  the French version wasn't laid out like the English one.  The only French I remember from class 10 years ago is: "the onions" and "my name is..."03:03
dirgedollis it supposed to give another prompt after the one you gave me?03:03
BluesKajnom de plume ?03:03
dirgedolland it is still showing as a tar.gz03:03
joheyBluesKaj: Well, I believe the CPU temperature is an issue even with Linux. :)03:04
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BluesKajyou must have alotta stuff open03:05
philfo1for all the freedom that linux affords users, it sure is a PITA for beginners.  I mean frustrating.  from a marketing standpoint, no wonder why windows survives.  linux IS the better system, but I've been sitting at my computer for 4 days making stuff work or trying to do so.03:06
dirgedollme too03:06
dirgedolli cant even unzip a flippin file03:07
dirgedollits worth it from what i hear though03:07
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dirgedollso i will take the beatings hehe03:07
dirgedolland plug away at it03:07
MuJand all this because you've learned The Wrong Methods(tm) from windows03:07
philfo1for Linux to take over (like I want :) ) there needs to be a much easier way than going on an IRC & pleading for experienced users to write command lines while us n00bs try to learn03:08
dirgedollyes it is03:08
philfo1Muj:  I know.  I admit it.03:08
dirgedolli still cant get this to unzip03:08
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hitmanWillylinux isn't any harder than windows, just a different way of doing things03:08
MuJactually I think if you give linux and windows to someone who has NEVER used computer before they find linux easier03:08
dirgedolli just dont get it yet03:09
aznsldme 303:09
philfo1not from a hardcore 10+ year windows user's pov.03:09
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hitmanWillydirgedoll: try right clicking and "extract here"03:09
BluesKajdirgedoll, right click on the pkg . .. choose action/ extract to folder03:09
dirgedollyeah i did that03:09
philfo1that's like saying that taking photos with wetplate is just as easy as using  apoint & shoot, but a different way.03:09
MuJphilfo1: you'll learn.. just don't give up :)03:10
philfo1sorry for ranting.   I'll stop03:10
dirgedollme too03:10
philfo1yeah, well tonight I don't have time to learn unfortunately03:10
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BluesKajin the terminal cd  "foldername" , then ./configure03:10
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philfo1I need my stuff to WORK03:10
pinoshawportugues pt03:10
pinoshawportugues<br>03:11
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BluesKaj!br03:11
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.03:11
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rootbeerroothey! I'm running mandriva, but i'm hoping it's the same property...i need to know how to change a driver03:13
dirgedollstill doesnt work03:15
hitmanWillydirgedoll: whats it telling you?03:15
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BluesKajwrong room rootbeerroot, not the same OS base03:16
Alpha_Clustercan someone here explian why in edgy /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/bin/java links to a 1.4 versin of java?03:16
MuJdirgedoll: tar -xzf package.tar.gz??03:16
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dirgedollno such file or directory03:17
MuJwell of course you change the package.tar.gz according to your package :D03:17
BluesKajwhat's the pkg name dirgedoll?03:17
dirgedollsuperkaramba-0.3903:17
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MuJeh..03:18
dirgedolli extracted the folder to a folder called pics on my desktop03:18
MuJwhat are you doing? :)03:18
borisyaltsinHi, how do I get calc to show the formulas in the cells instead of the outcomes of the formulas?03:18
BluesKajsuperkarumba should be in adept or synaptic pkg managers , check it out03:18
MuJit just shouldn't be.. it IS03:19
dirgedollno it isnt i havfe 6.0603:19
MuJhmm..03:19
dirgedollkubuntu 6.0603:19
hitmanWillydirgedoll: you can probably download the .deb pkg. much easier to install03:19
MuJit's in the universe repository03:20
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dirgedollhow do i find that03:20
hitmanWillydirgedoll: try searching ubuntu.org for it03:20
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BluesKajin adept or synaptic03:20
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hitmanWillyoh hold on, for dapper it might be a backport03:21
MuJit's in universe03:21
MuJfor dapper03:22
MuJhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=superkaramba&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all  <- there03:22
hitmanWillynever used 6.06, sorry03:22
dirgedollthx03:23
philfo1GD!!03:23
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hitmanWillynot too familiar with the repos for it03:23
cj_morning03:24
philfo1why is it when I'm typing the exact command line that I should be, terminal gives me "command not found" ??!!??03:24
soulriderhey everyone03:24
hitmanWillyphilfo1: what cmd?03:24
BluesKajhmm strange i was sure it was in edgy repos03:24
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MuJ6.06 = dapper03:24
philfo1"sudo /etc/apt/sources.list"03:25
dirgedollthis is all still freaking me out heh03:25
MuJsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:25
hitmanWillyphilfo1: thats not a cmd, thats a file name03:25
soulriderim trying to uninstall libgnomeui-comming but it gives me an error ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12832/ i hope someone can help me because i cant install anything at all!03:25
dirgedolljoin the club03:25
MuJyou were trying to run sources.list with super user privileges :)03:25
philfo1well, the ubuntu help pages has it up there like that03:26
MuJwhich doesn't work because it's a text file03:26
MuJlink?03:26
MuJbecause that's obviously wrong03:26
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dirgedollwhy cant this be as easy as windows?03:28
philfo1because you are totally dependent upon  a GUI03:28
philfo1like 80% of the world.03:28
philfo1like me.03:28
dirgedollsigh03:28
MuJdirgedoll: because it's easier03:28
philfo1ha ha ha ha03:28
MuJit is03:28
MuJwhen you learn the basics03:28
dirgedollbut this is so much fastier and prettier03:29
philfo1I still can't mount a directory03:29
soulriderthe command line is so much better than a GUI for lots of things IMHO03:29
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philfo1I don't know any basics.  but unfortunately I have to WORK with this computer.03:29
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philfo1right now its  just a hobby machine because it can't do what I need it to.  because the basics are NOT basic.03:30
Hobbsee!mount | philfo103:30
ubotuphilfo1: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter03:30
Hobbseephilfo1: it didnt automount?03:30
philfo1and it's nobody's fault but mine03:30
soulriderHobbsee: you good with packaging ? =/03:31
philfo1philfo1 is mounted.  I want to look at another HD03:31
soulriderim trying to uninstall libgnomeui-comming but it gives me an error ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12832/ i hope someone can help me because i cant install anything at all!03:31
soulriderlobgnomegui-common sorry03:31
Hobbseesoulrider: looking03:32
Hobbseesoulrider: icky.03:33
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soulriderthanks Hobbsee03:33
strabye03:33
soulrideri cant even install kopete03:33
soulriderim SO never using aptoncd again03:33
Hobbseesoulrider: could you pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgnomeui-common.prerm please?03:33
soulridersure03:34
soulrider!paste03:34
Hobbseesoulrider: is this feisty, btw?03:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:34
soulriderno, edgy03:34
stdinHobbsee, soulrider: it's looking for gconf-schemas (in package gconf2)03:34
MuJsoulrider: I'd just try to force remove it03:34
soulriderhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12836/ Hobbsee03:34
Hobbseesoulrider: ahh03:34
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Hobbseestdin: so i see.03:35
Hobbseeyou wont be able to force remove it03:35
soulriderbut i dont think i can install that package =/03:35
MuJdpkg --force -r libgnomeui-common ? no?03:35
Hobbseesoulrider: change line 6, to be :gconf-schemas --unregister libgnomeui-apport-gtk.schemas03:35
Hobbseemake sure you keep the indenting03:35
Hobbseethen try to remove it again03:36
soulriderk, let me kdesu kate first :P03:36
philfo1I'm out.  got to go work.  I can't believe this.03:36
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soulriderdone, let me try it03:37
Hobbseesoulrider: ahhh, you removed gconf?03:37
soulridererr i think03:37
soulriderheres the thing03:37
soulrideri installed allt he deps aptoncd needed03:37
soulriderbut it basically installed GNOME :P03:37
Hobbseewait, you couldnt have removed gconf - that would have removed that as well.  weird03:37
soulriderso i looked for thta pure KDE website and remved everything it said :P03:37
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Hobbseesoulrider: ahh.   scripts like that tend to be bad03:38
Hobbseeseeing as kde has some gnome stuff03:38
soulriderwhat you just told me didnt work03:38
Hobbseesoulrider: what'd it do?03:38
soulridersame03:38
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Hobbseeoh, sorry, use a #, not a :03:38
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Hobbseeor remove lines 4-603:38
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soulriderstill happening =/03:39
soulriderhold on a sec03:39
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stdini find a nice "exit 0" right after "#!/bin/sh" does the job03:39
Hobbseeheh03:39
Hobbseeyes - assuming there was nothing else in the prerm that should run03:39
soulriderso i just leave03:39
soulrider#!/bin/sh03:39
soulriderset -e03:39
soulrider?03:39
stdinyou can just comment out the whole thing03:40
soulriderk03:40
Hobbseesoulrider: that works03:40
stdinfrom if to fi03:40
soulrideroh yes03:40
soulriderit world!03:40
soulriderworked*03:40
Hobbsee:D03:40
soulriderthank you guys!!! <303:40
Hobbseenow as for how you coudl remove gconf2, but keep that...i'll never know03:41
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Hobbseeprobably that dodgy script03:41
soulriderwell03:41
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soulriderit was just a list of packages that could be uninstalled03:41
soulridernot really a script03:41
Hobbseesoulrider: probably removing libgtk2.0-0 then installing kubuntu-desktop again would have worked better03:41
Hobbseei think i've seen it03:41
Hobbseeit wouldnt suprise me if it was trying to use force though03:42
soulriderit wasnt03:42
soulriderit was just "sudo apt-get remove <packages>"03:42
Hobbseeah, okay03:42
cotystdin: what were the video coverters you tolled me about again?03:42
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cotyCan someone tell me of some good video converters? I need to convert videos to fit on my psp03:44
stdincoty: umm, ffmpeg mencoder and avidemux03:44
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cotythanks03:45
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red22is beta 2 going to be available tomorrow?03:58
sampan anyone know why after the kdelibs update this morning now i have a screensaver (a big white "X" as in the logo for Xorg) when it's turned off in system settings and kcontrol?03:58
soulriderfor feisty ask in #ubuntu+103:58
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red22ty03:59
MuJwhat's the name for ubuntu+2? :P04:00
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Daisuke_IdoGlitzy Gopher04:00
Daisuke_Ido(i don't know, but it sounds good :)04:00
WaxyFreshkmix isnt starting up any ideas04:01
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MuJMassive Mole would be cool.. when we get that far :)04:01
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WaxyFreshsexy seacucumber04:04
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philfo1and here I am again, looking for more help.04:05
exobuzzGroovy Gerbil04:05
exobuzz:-)04:05
philfo1I'm trying to run  this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-204:06
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lunar-raven!nspluginwrapper04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
lunar-raven!flash6404:06
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava04:06
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philfo1and I'm halfway down the page at the command line right after: "Blacklist old fglrx module from linux-restricted-modules"04:07
WarrenTHi guys, i have a simple problem here04:07
WarrenTeverytime i try to apt-get in kubuntu a package04:07
WarrenTit says package not found04:07
WarrenT??04:07
stdinWarrenT: check your sources.list04:07
WarrenTroot@DLINK:~# apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 build-essential04:07
WarrenTReading package lists... Done04:07
WarrenTBuilding dependency tree04:07
WarrenTReading state information... Done04:07
WarrenTE: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.1004:07
philfo1so I ran the next three lines of commands & I get: bash: 8.35.5: No such file or directory04:08
stdin!paste | WarrenT04:08
ubotuWarrenT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:08
WarrenTahh thanks stdin04:08
WarrenTby the way, im a newbie how do  i check sources.list?04:08
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stdinWarrenT: post /etc/apt/sources.list to that pastebin site and I'll give it a look04:09
WarrenTok one moment please stdin04:09
stdinphilfo1: what commands are you running?04:09
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philfo1"sudo ln -sf bash /bin/sh"04:10
philfo1then: "bash ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy"04:10
philfo1and at that command it gives me no such file or directory04:10
WarrenTstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12843/04:10
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WarrenToh, i should uncomment the two lines as it says :)04:11
WarrenTlol04:11
stdinphilfo1: did you replave <version> with the version, ie. NOT ./ati-driver-installer-<8.35.5>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy, but "./ati-driver-installer-8.35.5.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy"04:11
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WarrenTstdin: im going to uncoment both sections? or one?04:12
philfo1no, I used the <>04:12
pollyoHello is emerge a package or a shell command?04:12
philfo1damn.04:12
philfo1why TF can't this be a little more straigtforward.04:12
philfo1so now I did whatever it is that I did (which I do NOT understand) how do I make it better so I can install the correct driver for my graphics card & have my computer not take 22 seconds opening an application04:14
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philfo1?04:14
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intelikeynetworking guro who is not real busy atm ?04:15
crdlbpollyo, emerge?04:15
crdlbthat's for gentoo04:15
WarrenTstdin:04:15
Jucato!apt | pollyo04:16
ubotupollyo: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:16
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stdinWarrenT: sorry, cron went crazy for a sec :P, uncomment what you want, but remember to run "sudo apt-get update" after04:16
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WarrenTstdin: i uncommented all the # deb sections in sources.list... when i try apt-get install kismet... i still get package not found04:16
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Jucatointelikey: right on! :)04:16
Jucato!info kismet04:16
WarrenTahh ok ill do update :)04:16
ubotukismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB04:16
WarrenTi uncommented all the #deb's04:17
philfo1oh man.  I didn't run an update on the universe after I enabled it.04:17
intelikeydid you add multiverse ?04:17
philfo1intelikely: me?04:17
intelikeyand WarrenT04:17
WarrenThuh?04:18
philfo1I'm STILL trying to get my ATI GC to work properly04:18
stdinWarrenT: whenever you change that file, you need to update the package list, and you may as well add multiverse too (to the lines with universe)04:18
WarrenTi just uncommented all the lines with deb in sources.list04:18
philfo1but now I'm in a time crunch.04:18
WarrenTwhat is the exact line?04:18
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stdinWarrenT: all the lines starting with deb and ending with universe04:19
WarrenTso i add multiverse ??04:19
intelikeyall with the word deb* universe    can be   deb* universe multiverse04:19
WarrenTahh ok04:19
WarrenTthanks will do04:19
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stdinWarrenT: then, sudo apt-get update04:20
WarrenTyep thanks alot :004:20
sparrinstalling a RPM on my kubuntu box for the first time...  i feel so unclean04:20
WarrenTreal helpful you guys.04:20
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intelikeysparr why in the world are you doing that ?04:20
stdineww, rpm04:21
WarrenThey wants a backdoor up the behind :)04:21
intelikeyrpm is good but not on a debian based system.04:21
hsystem-xrpm sucks!04:21
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hsystem-xdeb rules.04:21
speedo409guys I am using kubuntu 6.10, How can I connect to Wireless assistant without entering my Sudo password each time I reboot my box04:21
hitmanWillylets see how many dependency problems pop up04:21
stdinrpm is only good with apt-rpm04:21
philfo1thanks04:22
speedo409I want to connect like windows - automatically04:22
WarrenToh04:22
intelikeystdin i beg to differ.   urpmi is a very capable package management system04:22
WarrenTlast question, now that i apt-get kismet and its installed, in which directory will it be in??04:22
sparrintelikey: no debian-ish package available for what i want04:22
stdinintelikey: to tell the truth, the last time I used an RPM based system, was about 8 years ago04:23
hitmanWillyWarrenT: probably spread through multiple ones04:23
intelikeysparr ok.   out of curiosity what is it ?04:23
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WarrenTso i should search for it hitmanWilly04:23
stdinWarrenT: use "dpkg -L kismet | less " to see all the files installed04:23
speedo409anybody here using wireless assistant ? I need help04:24
hitmanWillyWarrenT: what stdin said04:24
WarrenTahh its in /etc04:24
hitmanWillypart of it04:24
WarrenTwhere is the executable file?04:24
stdinprobably in /usr/bin04:24
hitmanWillyprobably /usr/local/bin04:25
stdinWarrenT: but, like I said, use "dpkg -L kismet | less " to see all the files installed04:25
WarrenTmakes sense04:25
WarrenTthanks04:25
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WarrenTwell i got like 20 directorys :)04:25
sparrintelikey: qsa (qt script for applications)04:25
intelikeyWarrenT does it matter where it's installed ?    as long as the executable is in your $PATH just the name will do.   but if you must know    dpkg -L kismet | grep bin/04:25
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hitmanWillyWarrenT: Linux splits progs up between multiple folders unlike that "other" system04:26
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philfo1hey, if I just do this stuff over & over again  because i forgot to run an update like 5 steps ago, is this going to fix itself or will I just be screwed?04:26
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intelikeysparr   hmmm.   ok.04:26
neo_yup its me again adking how to get soundblaster 16 audio working04:26
philfo1becasue formatting seems a lot simpler at this point.04:27
speedo409anybody here using wireless assistant ? I need help04:27
intelikeyphilfo1 when i was first migrating to linux i used to reload the system twice a weak whether i needed to or not....04:27
philfo1right.  well, I either use this machine tonight, or I lose a job.04:28
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philfo1not so much lose a job, but definitely not get paid for my services.04:28
neo_not to sound like an a** but got backup04:28
philfo1I am so frustrated with this.  and yeah, it's my fault for being windows dependent04:29
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neo_join the crowd04:30
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philfo1yeah.  backup is having someone else doing the service & me not getting paid for what I know I can do.04:30
intelikeyphilfo1 let me see if i can help ya on this.   what exactly is the issue ?04:30
neo_well dont give up04:30
hitmanWillyphilfo1: at least you're trying to learn something new04:30
philfo1ATI driver04:30
philfo1true, true.04:30
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neo_did you try checking x1104:31
philfo1I've been working on this migration for a month & I'm on my 5th day of complete immersion in linux04:31
intelikeyok and what is the "Error:" ?04:31
philfo1I did a driver install last night and my computer slowed down by about 50 times right after I restarted x04:31
philfo1the error is that it takes about one minute to open or load anything outside terminal04:32
intelikeyoh yuch.  i've heard enough....04:32
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philfo1and I have to do a 120MB photo restoration tonight!04:32
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neo_sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf ????04:33
intelikeycan you do it without ati drivers ?04:33
neo_did you try that on boot04:33
neo_kicking out or grub04:33
philfo1what? what?  and what?04:33
philfo1I don't know.04:34
neo_on boot kick out of grub the loader04:34
philfo1my computer was screaming fast two days ago with the improper driver04:34
neo_get to cmd04:34
neo_then run this command sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf04:34
philfo1ok, wait one.   remember:  5th day of Linucks04:34
intelikeycan you do "the 120MB photo restoration" without ati drivers ?      might reconfigure xorg to use the generic driver   'vesa' maybe   and get your work done....  just a thought.04:35
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neo_that gets you to video settings04:35
cotyis there a way to install all know wifi drivers04:35
neo_sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf04:35
hitmanWillyphilfo1: can you pastebin the contents?04:35
neo_got to kick out of the boot esc when grub starts to load04:35
cotyI would like to install them from the konsole04:35
philfo1I should be able to since I'm not doing any 3d.  I'm just so sick of getting a hair away from having this thing working properly, but not04:36
philfo1what?04:36
stdincoty: most are in linux-restricted-modules04:36
philfo1pastebin?  what?04:36
cotySo how would i get them all04:36
hitmanWilly!paste04:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:36
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cotystdin: is there a command i can put in konsole04:36
cotystdin: just to install all of them04:36
stdincoty: what kernel are you on (uname -r)04:37
cotystdin: not sure04:37
cotystdin: how would i know04:37
neo_anyone know where i cn get a driver for soundblaster 1604:37
stdincoty: i meant use "uname -r" to find out04:37
mrignsjust type "uname -r"04:37
stdin!soundblaster | neo_04:37
ubotuneo_: soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth04:37
cotystdin: 2.6.15-28-38604:37
neo_thanks04:37
intelikeyneo_ should be a module on disk already  ?04:38
philfo1hitmanWilly:  I don't get it.  does that mean that I need to be less wordy?04:38
pollyoAnyone familiar with k3b setup?04:38
neo_thanks intelikey04:38
hitmanWillyphilfo1: no, thats just the URL for pastebin04:38
stdincoty: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-38604:38
philfo1I don't get it.04:38
hitmanWillyphilfo1: i was just asking you to copy the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to pastebin04:39
philfo1there's SO MUCH new stuff I'm trying to ingest right now & I only know that "sudo" gets me anywhere I want to screw up04:39
hitmanWillyphilfo1: so i could take a look at it04:39
hitmanWillylol04:39
cotystdin: it wount let me04:39
philfo1give me a sec04:40
philfo1thanks04:40
cotystdin: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:40
philfo1I'm gonna have an aneurysm tonight, I can feel it04:40
stdincoty: close adept/synaptic04:40
cotystdin: ok04:40
hitmanWillyphilfo1: it happens to the best of us04:40
cotystdin: it said i already had it04:41
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philfo1how do I copy all that text?04:41
intelikeyphilfo1 i would sujest that you, in a kosnole, run this command;    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg       and sellect the vesa driver when asked.    and reset X      that's only a sujestion to try to help you get the thing working well enough to do what needs to be done.04:41
cotystdin: linux-restricted-modules-386 is already the newest version.04:42
stdincoty: then you have all the ones that you can get with apt04:42
hitmanWillyphilfo1: just like windows04:42
cotystdin: well i plug in my wifi antena and it does not say anything04:42
philfo1I don't mind staying up.  I want to get this driver in & in RIGHT.  if I have to go through this again, there's going to be a P4 in the schuylkill river04:42
cotystdin04:42
stdincoty: what doesn't say anything?04:43
cotystdin: it is a wifi max04:43
hitmanWillyphilfo1: actually, try what intellikey suggested first04:43
cotystdin: the computer04:43
philfo1re-work is my biggest pet peeve.04:43
intelikeyvidio card has nothing to do with the processor04:43
neo_hey how do i change my default browser to opera04:43
cotystdin: I plug in my wifi max into the usb port and nothing happens04:43
cotystdin: there is a driver i need for it04:43
stdincoty: it won't speak to you :P, just because you don't see it react doesn't mean that "nothing" happend04:44
cotystdin: i think it is zd somthing04:44
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philfo1no, but it's the manefestation of this whole pile of electronic dung.04:44
cotystdin: well it is not sending a signal out04:44
philfo1sorry.  just frustrated.04:44
intelikey:_04:44
pollyoAnyone know where k3bsetup would be?04:44
cotystdin: my psp does not pick up on any wifi hot spots04:44
intelikeypollyo in the menu of the app maybe ?04:44
stdincoty: that's probably because you haven't set it up04:45
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stdincoty: is usb right?04:45
cotystdin: so how should i04:45
philfo1intelikely: I would RATHER get the driver installed right and not have to revisit this issue04:45
stdincoty: in konsole, what does "lsusb" show ?04:45
philfo1I have until tomorrow night to deliver the photo04:45
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pollyointelikey: It looks like people are discussing another app that you run prior to k3b04:45
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cotystdin:04:45
cotyBus 001 Device 002: ID 067c:e240 Efficient Networks, Inc.04:45
cotyBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000004:45
cotystdin: i dont have it pluged in04:46
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cotystdin: should i plug it in04:46
stdincoty: heh, plug it in and re-run the command :)04:46
pollyoBRB04:46
philfo1so, is there anyone game for helping me out with running this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2  ??04:47
cotystdin: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0ace:1215 ZyDAS04:47
philfo1that is, if it works...04:47
stdincoty: ok, so it's sees it, that's good04:48
cotystdin: good04:48
cotystdin: you mean great04:48
intelikeypollyo i don't see any thing like that in the package database  but if it is part of the k3b packaes  just type it in the konsole   k3bsetup04:48
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stdincoty: post the output of "lsusb -vs 001:003", "ifconfig" and "iwconfig" to pastebin04:50
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coty!paste04:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:51
intelikeyneed testers.    http://pastebin.us/?dl=1968604:51
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cotyintelikey: for what04:52
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stdinS I S :)04:52
thumperdoes anyone else have the situation where Xorg starts taking 100% of the cpu?04:52
cotyfor some reason my internet got really slower when i switched to kbuntu04:53
icarnhello there, how can i what happen to my system 30min ago when somthing get all the cpu and disk power ?04:53
intelikeycoty ipv6 prolly ?04:53
hitmanWilly!paste04:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:53
philfo1in reconfiguring xserver-xorg, should I use the framebuffer device interface?  yes or no?04:54
cotyintelikey: i have tried that04:54
cotyintelikey: i dont think im doing it right04:54
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cotystdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12854/04:55
hitmanWillyintelikey: that script errored out on my system http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12853/04:55
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intelikeycoty you have edited    /etc/modprobe.d/aliases  set   alias net-pf-10 off   ?04:56
philfo1anyone?  anyone?  Beuler?       Beuler?04:56
cotystdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12855/04:56
cotyintelikey: hmm04:56
neo_which restricted module has the sound drivers04:56
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neo_ which restricted module has the sound drivers04:57
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stdinintelikey: you use bashisms, so use /bin/bash not /bin/sh04:57
intelikeystdin not needed.  sh works fine.    did line 11 turncate on you or something ?04:58
stdinintelikey: 10: Syntax error: "(" unexpected04:58
cotystdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12856/04:58
intelikeyhitmanWilly did line 11 turncate ?04:58
cotystdin: there you go all three commands you gave me04:58
cotystdin: scroll up for the other two04:59
neo_any one know where in the restricted modules I can find sound drivers04:59
intelikeystdin ok  does changing /bin/sh to /bin/bash  fix your error ?04:59
stdinintelikey: yeah04:59
intelikeyok scrap it.  i'll rewrite.05:00
cotyintelikey: so how do i turn of ipv6?05:00
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stdinintelikey: it's because /bin/sh is dash here05:00
intelikey<intelikey> coty you have edited    /etc/modprobe.d/aliases  set   alias net-pf-10 off   ?05:01
cotyintelikey: because im so tired of slow internet when i have dsl05:01
cotyintelikey: i put the command in and i got an error05:01
intelikeywhat command ?05:01
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intelikeyand what error for that matter05:01
cotyintelikey: that is a command right05:02
stdinintelikey: and "$(ifconfig -a | grep -A1 '^[A-z] ') shows nothing here, but "$(ifconfig -a | grep -iA1 '^[A-z] ')" shows them05:02
intelikeycoty no05:02
cotyintelikey: ok05:02
cotyintelikey: so what is it05:02
cotyintelikey: and what do i do05:02
neo_hey how stable is the new beta05:02
neo_im downloading it now05:02
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cotyintelikey: sorry i know im a pain05:02
hitmanWillyneo_: for feisty?05:03
intelikeycoty edit the file.   change the line.05:03
neo_yea05:03
intelikeycoty konsole   # sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/aliases #05:03
neo_feisty fawn05:03
hitmanWillyneo_: running it right now, works great for me05:03
neo_any crashes05:03
stdincoty: does "sudo iwconfig" show anything ?05:04
hitmanWillyneo_: not yet, continuous uptime for 3 days since i installed it05:04
cotyintelikey: ok now what05:04
intelikeystdin then you are saying to me that [A-z]  == [a-z]   on that system ?05:04
neo_i havent run it yet but Im new to the ubuntu world but Im loving it so far05:04
cotystdin: yeah i gave it to you05:04
intelikeycoty find line that says  "alias net-pf-10 ipv6"   change it to   "alias net-pf-10 off"05:05
stdinintelikey: no, "grep -iA1 '^[A-z] '" == "grep -A1 '^[a-z] '" (added the -i to grep)05:05
hitmanWillyneo_: switched to ubu about 6-7 mos back from fedora, never looked back05:05
stdincoty: with sudo ?05:05
cotyintelikey: hmm... thoughs are two diffrent lines05:06
cotystdin: let me try05:06
intelikeystdin yes and you the  -i makes it case insesnitive so it is A-Z,a-z   but  [A-z]   is all ready that here05:06
intelikeyyou*  you know05:06
cotystdin: what is the command again05:07
stdinintelikey: [A-z]  outputs nothing on my system05:07
stdincoty: sudo iwconfig05:07
cotystdin: i got the same thing05:07
neo_im working on sound but there is no snd05:07
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cotyintelikey: alias net-pf-6  netrom05:08
intelikeystdin test.  echo -e 't\nT' | grep '[A-z] '05:08
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cotyintelikey: that is what is on line 605:08
stdinintelikey: nothing05:08
philfo1lovely.  disabling my GC makes all my monitor color calibrations nil.05:08
cotyintelikey: alias net-pf-10 ipv605:08
philfo1this is just perfect.05:08
cotyintelikey: that is what is on line 1005:09
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intelikeyyes line 1005:09
stdinintelikey: but, interestingly "echo -e 't\nT' | grep '[a-Z] '" works05:09
Theresahello folks05:09
intelikeystdin hmmmmm05:09
cotyintelikey: so i edit line 10 with alias net-pf-10 off05:09
intelikeycoty yes05:09
intelikeystdin that aint right.... they have reordered char sorting05:10
jmichaelxhas anyone completely trashed their systems by upgrading to feisty beta recently, or am i alone on this?05:10
TheresaI am in the embarrasing situation of working on a clients computer and being flummoxed.  In Open office all fonts in all wigets are now symbols. It's not readable. I have deleted the openoffice.org2 folder and it still remains the same. Any ideas?05:10
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intelikeystdin see here  "echo -e 't\nT' | grep '[a-Z] '"  gets nothing.05:11
cotyintelikey: my internet speed is the same05:11
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intelikeycoty that change only affect initialization.   boot time.05:11
cotyoh05:12
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cotyit is asking what files to write it so05:12
cotyto05:12
cotyintelikey: which ones should i05:12
intelikeyjust hit enter05:12
cotyok05:13
cotythanks05:13
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jmichaelxafter attempting to upgrade to feisty, i cannot get bash anymore.... i get "busybox"... is there any hope for a recovery?05:13
cotystdin: so what do i do now05:14
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cotystdin; you got all the paste i gave you right?05:14
stdincoty: yeah, just trying to find the driver for it05:15
cotystdin: were05:15
philfo1oh goodness.  xserver-xorg reset.  ordeal.05:15
stdincoty: google mostly :P05:15
cotyintelikey: my internet now is super fast05:15
cotyintelikey: but for some reason google loads slow05:16
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intelikeycoty i don't know anything about that.   maybe google was actually using ipv6  ?05:17
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Theresathis is so frustrating05:17
Theresait can't be a gtk thing as adept looks fine05:17
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cotyintelikey: it took awhile for it to load the search engin but now it flies05:18
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cotyintelikey: WOW my internet is SO FREAKING FAST05:20
cotyintelikey:  i never knew it was this fast05:20
TheresaJucato: oh05:20
intelikeystdin version you running ?05:20
cotyintelikey: it was not this fast on windows05:20
stdinintelikey: feisty05:20
intelikeyk05:21
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intelikeystdin  i was sujested that it might be the builtin echo  try /bin/echo  ona that test05:22
stdincoty: do "sudo modprobe zd1211rw" then show "dmesg | tail"05:22
stdinintelikey:  "/bin/echo -e 't\nT' | /bin/grep '[A-z] '" shows nothing05:23
stdinintelikey:  and, again, reversing A-z for a-Z does05:24
intelikeyk05:24
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Theresaso what draws the widgets in Open Office? IT's the only thing that looked messed up.  The menus looks fine but everything in the tools bars is gibberish. In the font listings drop-down i have circle-square-halfmoon-double box-filled circle05:26
hitmanWillyTheresa: i think open office IS in fact GTK05:27
hitmanWillyi think...05:27
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cotystdin: FATAL: Module zd1211rw not found.05:28
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Bearcatso, it's a gtk thing then. hmm05:28
hitmanWillymaybe05:28
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hitmanWillytry running gedit05:28
hitmanWillyi know that's gtk05:28
Jucatoand also not installed by default :)05:28
stdincoty: run: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -type f -name "zd1211*"05:29
hitmanWillyi know, iwas hoping05:29
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Bearcatok, i think i've seen this before when i used Gnome a long time ago05:29
icarnBearcat : may try to use kde config to use kde fonts in gtk apps (one cliin controle panel)05:29
Bearcaticarn: i messed around with that to no avail. I think it may be a pango problem05:30
Jucato"kde config" would be System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK+ Styles and Fonts05:30
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BearcatJucato: right. That seems to make no difference. I'm gonna look for my gtk setting and kill them05:31
nonudai have an application hang, how do i kill it?05:31
intelikeystdin i'm not getting comment from the guys in #bash  they are all grinning like the cat that swallowed the cannery, and won't admit that bash borked....   but neither will they accuse grep of being at fault   makes me think they will probably quietly fix it and say nothing.05:31
stdinintelikey: tried it in /bin/sh, /bin/csh, /bin/ksh and a couple others, all only work with [a-Z] 05:32
cotystdin: /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/kernel/drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zd1211.ko05:32
nonudayo stdin, my man..hehe05:32
stdincoty: ok, sudo modprobe zd121105:33
stdinhey nonuda :)05:33
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cotystdin: no output05:33
cotystdin: came up05:33
stdincoty: then "dmesg | tail" to pastebin05:33
nonudastdin, how do i kill an application?05:33
intelikeystdin ok then it's not bash.   lets see if it's grep  test;  echo -e 't\nT' | sed 's/[A-z] /P/g'05:33
stdinintelikey: sed: -e expression #1, char 11: Invalid range end05:34
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Bearcathow would i reinstall pango?05:35
intelikeystdin and if you reverse it ?05:35
cotystdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12860/05:35
stdinintelikey: again, "echo -e "t\nT" | sed 's/[a-Z] /P/g'" gives "P<new line>P"05:35
Bearcatnm05:36
intelikeystdin yep it's neither bash nor grep   it's something to do with regex.   and ubuntu prolly did it.05:36
stdincoty: and "iwconfig" now shows?05:36
cotystdin: nothing05:36
stdinintelikey: strange05:37
cotyI hope to be getting a better computer this weekend05:37
stdincoty: what about "iwconfig wlan0" ?05:37
cotyfirst thing im doing is....05:37
intelikeythat could give all kinds of trubble in scripts.   it may not only apply to A-z  it is a reordering or chars so i don't know what all will be affected.05:37
cotystdin: wlan0     No such device05:37
stdinaww :p05:38
intelikeyit's not posix tho05:38
cotyfirst thing im doing as soon as i get that computer is wiping out microsoft and installing my beutiful kubuntu05:38
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stdinthere really is no documentation on ZyDAS05:40
icarnBearcat : lissage des polices de KDE (Centre de configuration > Apparence et Thmes > Polices > Configurer > Activer le halo par sous-pixellisation). (in french but who care)05:41
cotystdin: i know thats the problem05:41
WaxyFreshi cant figure out the proper way to get ddat display a day in the futor or past,any help?lets dd/mm/yy05:42
WaxyFreshddate*05:42
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cotythe new computer im getting has a bad hard drive05:42
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cotyso im not sure how im going to install kubuntu05:43
Bearcaticarn: thakn you, but my french is almost on-existant05:44
WaxyFresh!fr05:44
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:44
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bruja8hi, guys, how do i make the live cd not load bcm43xx modules?05:46
Bearcatwell thanks for the help folks. I gotta scram05:46
icarnBearcat : ok so System Settings -> Appearance ->  Polices -> "lisser"(configure) then halo ; should be what u look 4.05:46
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daskreech2bruja8: blacklist he,05:46
daskreech2them05:46
daskreech2oh wait05:47
daskreech2Live cd05:47
bruja8daskreech2, how do i make it install the distro without the bcm43xx for that matter?05:48
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cotyI am at this point really sad05:48
daskreech2well if you are going to install it then you can blacklist it after05:48
cotyI am watching the youtube vids of beryl05:48
cotyand i want beryl05:48
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daskreech2:-)05:48
bruja8ohhhh yeah, i forgot that! but which file do i blacklist it in?05:49
daskreech2ummmm05:49
intelikeystdin ok test this one in place of the other,   i patched it for your non-posix system    http://pastebin.us/1970705:49
icarnwhat happend ?05:49
daskreech2something ni /etc/modules05:49
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bruja8ohhhh, k05:49
cotycant someone help me with getting beryl05:49
icarnc pas cool05:50
bruja8what's the matter coty?05:50
odin__coty whats wrong?05:50
daskreech2coty: installeed your vid card drivere already?05:50
cotyi want beryl *coty crys05:50
odin__coty: i installed vid drivers with Envy and it worked with aiglx first time round05:50
cotyi want my screen to be a cube05:50
bruja8did you install the packages coty?05:50
intelikeyso feisty has really hosed regex...05:51
cotyno05:51
cotyi dont know were to get them05:51
bonesanyone ever have Kubuntu/Ubuntu start up and stay in comand line?05:51
cotyi have no idea what to do05:51
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intelikeyanyone running feisty care to drop this in a konsole# echo -e 'R\nr' | grep '[A-z] ' ;echo -e 'R\nr' | sed 's/[a-Z] /E;/g'05:51
odin__coty: nvidia or ati?05:52
cotyhow do i know05:52
cotysomeone asked me before but never tolled me how to find out05:52
intelikeyR means it's correct   E;  well you know what E; means.05:52
odin__um05:52
icarnnviida05:52
stdinintelikey: the "patched" script works now05:53
LeeJunFanintelikey: double E's.05:53
stdinintelikey: and I got E;'s05:53
odin__how u know icarn?05:53
odin__:p05:53
intelikeyLeeJunFan k just wanted to dubble check that it wasn't stdin's box only.05:53
icarn:b05:53
intelikeyok there needs to be a bug filed on that .05:53
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daskreech2coty: lshw -C video05:54
cotyok05:54
LeeJunFanintelikey: I should say :)05:54
intelikeyLeeJunFan you regestered ?05:55
LeeJunFanintelikey: I didn't catch your earlier stuff, and I'm sitting here looking at this going WTF happened?  hehe05:55
nonudacan i install gnome desktop in kubuntu? can gnome and kde exist in one machine?05:55
stdinintelikey: tested it on an OpenBSD box, and I got R r and "sed: 1: "s/[a-Z] /E;/g": RE error: invalid character range"05:55
stdinnonuda: sure, just install "ubuntu-desktop"05:56
coty!paste05:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:56
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odin__what does it say coty, nvidia or ati?05:56
intelikeyLeeJunFan feisty has "re-ordered" the standard chars in 'regex'    that's like saying all scripts of any lang not specifically writen for feisty ubuntu should not be used on feisty.05:56
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intelikeyit breaks posix compliance and has serious implications.05:56
intelikeystdin yes that's posix complient.05:57
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cotyodin_: it says it no wer05:57
cotywere05:57
LeeJunFanintelikey: shouldn't the second one be E?05:57
odin__:/05:57
intelikeyLeeJunFan yes see stdin above.05:57
odin__lshw -C video says "nowhere"? :p05:58
odin__under vendor:05:58
cotyshould i run the command in super-user05:58
cotythat is what it said05:58
odin__no need05:58
cotyok05:58
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intelikeythis is normal.  tty4 [greg$~]  echo -e 'R\nr' | grep '[A-z] ' ;echo -e 'R\nr' | sed 's/[a-Z] /E;/g'R05:58
intelikeyr05:58
intelikeysed: -e expression #1, char 12: Invalid range end05:58
cotylet me paste what the out put was05:58
odin__kk05:58
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LeeJunFanintelikey: which package should that be filed under? is that libc's job?05:59
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cotyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12863/06:00
intelikeyLeeJunFan i think libc6  but i'm not sure.06:00
ouellettesrhello if im installing openoffice from their website, should i install the debian menu package under desktop integration06:00
odin__intel06:00
odin__:/06:00
cotyhmmm06:01
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Hrontoreintelikey: what distro are you using?06:02
intelikeyHrontore ubuntu06:02
Hrontoreahh06:02
cotyso can someone help me with getting beryl06:02
odin__gimme a sec :p06:02
intelikeyHrontore and you ?06:02
cotyi really get saddier by the second watching these vids of it06:03
Hrontoreintelikey: Kubuntu06:03
ouellettesrany ideas anyone?06:03
intelikeyyeah i thought we were probably both using ubuntu06:03
Hrontoreouelletters: have you tried using apt?06:04
HrontoreYou may need to add repositorys06:04
odin__coty: type glxinfo | grep direct06:04
intelikeyouellettesr why from their site ?06:04
cotydirect rendering: No06:05
cotyOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect06:05
Hrontorei have the same problem06:05
ouellettesrtheres a bug in database where you cant save a form, the only work around is installing the version on their website06:05
intelikeyok.06:05
odin__coty: this is out of my league, if at all possible :p06:06
odin__ask about06:06
odin__try #beryl06:06
ouellettesri downloaded it and the nstructions say to delete anything not for my release, im not sure if i need to delete the debian menu package under desktop integration06:06
Hrontorei need help with fglrx06:07
intelikeyshoot i'm late.. gota make rounds.06:07
Hrontoreinstalling a binary driver for radeon 690006:07
LeeJunFanintelikey: I don't think it's a bug, both E's are coming from the sed.06:07
Hrontore9600*06:07
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LeeJunFan\nr should be \n\r06:07
LeeJunFanbah06:07
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carutsusorry to ask here, but is there an OpenOffice channel?06:11
daskreech2coty: out of luck?06:11
daskreech2#openoffice.org06:12
cotyyeap out of luck06:12
daskreech2and I think a #openoffice.org-users06:12
odin__coty doesnt seem to be doing well06:12
carutsudaskreech2 thank you very much06:12
odin__:[06:12
LeeJunFancoty: what gfx card you have?06:12
cotyi took my stress out on another channel06:12
daskreech2intel06:12
cotyyes06:12
daskreech2better than a sis06:12
odin__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12863/ for chipset details06:12
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cotyi flooded one of my mosted hated channels06:13
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cotythats how stressed i am06:13
LeeJunFanhrm, sorry, I know nothing about their cards except that linux finally gets a gfx card maker to open source it and comes up with a worse driver than hacked ATI ones :(06:13
odin__#windows ?06:13
Re|ent|esslol06:13
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Re|ent|esshey umm06:13
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LeeJunFanYeah, SIS sucks. I have 24 of them at the library, I'd love to run beryl on those systems.06:14
cotyso06:14
daskreech2coty: #spywarerus ?06:14
cotyhow am i going to install this06:14
Re|ent|esswhy is it that i installed kubuntu and like none of my programs will install06:14
daskreech2coty: your wi fi card?06:14
cotywhat about it06:14
Re|ent|esslike apache06:14
Re|ent|essand php06:14
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daskreech2Re|ent|ess: none of which program?06:14
odin__buy a cheap nvidia card on ebay and installing it will be a breeze :D06:14
Re|ent|essand mysql06:14
daskreech2how are you installing them?06:15
Re|ent|essand xchat06:15
Re|ent|essand06:15
cotyi am not for now06:15
cotyim focused on beryl06:15
Re|ent|esssource l06:15
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Re|ent|essyour spose to install from source06:15
Re|ent|essif you cant compile then your not a linux user06:15
Re|ent|essyour a n00b06:15
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daskreech2Re|ent|ess: please dont be an idiot06:16
daskreech2!install06:16
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate06:16
Re|ent|essoh im not06:16
carutsuRelentless easy on him06:16
LeeJunFanaye aye06:16
carutsuRelentless he's new06:16
daskreech2!apt | Re|ent|ess06:16
ubotuRe|ent|ess: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:16
Re|ent|ess<serious linux user06:16
daskreech2:-06:16
daskreech2))06:16
Re|ent|ess!rpm | daskreech206:17
ubotudaskreech2: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)06:17
odin__doesnt mean u have to be rude06:17
Re|ent|esslol06:17
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Re|ent|essalien is not dangerous06:17
LeeJunFan!build-essential | Re|ent|ess06:17
ubotuRe|ent|ess: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:17
carutsuremember Dont bite the newbies!06:17
Re|ent|essok06:17
Re|ent|essi wont06:17
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Re|ent|ess:D06:18
Hrontoreokay i tried following the instructions (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) but ran into a problem with fglrx06:18
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Hrontorei dont know06:18
Re|ent|ess!google fglrx06:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google fglrx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:19
Re|ent|ess?06:19
Re|ent|ess!fglrx06:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:19
Re|ent|essthere we go06:19
Re|ent|essok06:19
Re|ent|esshmm06:19
LeeJunFanHrontore: ran into what problem?06:20
Hrontoreits ati!06:20
Hrontorewell i just dont know06:20
HirvinenRe|ent|ess: It doesn't google, but replies with factoids from its own database.06:20
Hrontoreone sec06:20
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Hrontore$ fglrxinfo06:20
Hrontoredisplay: :0.0  screen: 006:20
HrontoreOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org06:20
HrontoreOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect06:20
HrontoreOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)06:20
Hrontorethats the problem06:20
LeeJunFanHrontore: yep, did you install the fglrx driver package?06:20
LeeJunFannot just the modules06:21
Hrontorehow do i check?06:21
Re|ent|esslsmod06:21
Re|ent|essin a root shell06:21
Hrontorenow thats a list06:21
LeeJunFanno, that's the module.06:21
LeeJunFandpkg -l | grep fglrx06:21
Re|ent|esshmm06:22
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LeeJunFandpkg -l | grep fglrx | sort06:22
LeeJunFanit can :)06:22
Re|ent|essi belive if you want to check you modules loaded you type lsmod06:22
Re|ent|ess!lsmod06:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lsmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:22
Re|ent|esslsmode ls= list mod=modules06:22
ffffuhey06:22
ffffuhi06:22
ffffui need help on loading on raid.. my grub keeps hanging06:23
cotyNow im really starting to love kubuntu06:23
Re|ent|essraid/scisi06:23
cotylike super love06:23
Re|ent|ess!raid06:23
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO06:23
cotyit strems videos great06:23
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LeeJunFancoty found vlc06:23
cotywhen i was on windows youtube vids were chopy06:23
cotyhmm06:23
LeeJunFanoh, that direction. hehe06:23
Hrontoreleejunfan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12873/06:24
LeeJunFancoty: I thought you were streaming out.06:24
cotyWhen watching youtube vids on kubuntu they are not choppy like they were with windows06:24
ffffukeeps going into busybox06:24
ffffuwhat shd i do06:24
Re|ent|essffffu: busybox? are you dual booting06:25
LeeJunFanHrontore: okay, so you've go the libs installed okay, did you change your video driver in xorg.conf to fglrx?06:25
LeeJunFanHrontore: are you running feisty? and what model # ati you got?06:25
ffffuno..seems like the kernal couldn't find my harddisk (raid)06:25
ffffui think the modules should be loaded but i don't know what modules06:25
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Re|ent|essdo you see your drive on live?06:25
ffffuyeah i did06:26
ffffulive installation is okay06:26
cotyyay im getting help with beryl06:26
HrontoreLeeJunFan: the card is an RAdeon 9600 and running edgy06:26
ffffuafter that, grub loader loads the kernal and i'm in busy box06:26
Re|ent|essare you @ your box now?06:26
Re|ent|essoh06:26
Re|ent|essdid you read about raid drives?06:26
Re|ent|ess!raid06:26
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO06:26
LeeJunFanHrontore: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx06:26
ffffuyeah..i'm doing a installation via live cd again..will get into busybox again later..i'll let u know after i get into that06:26
Re|ent|essdo the firdt one06:26
ffffumeanwhile reading06:27
coty!kubuntulove06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntulove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
LeeJunFanHrontore: then glxinfo to see if your client vendor changed.06:27
daskreech2coty: where from?06:27
odin__ImagemagicK - huh?06:27
HrontoreLeeJunFan: Just like into the consol06:27
coty#beryl06:27
LeeJunFanffffu: if itt's dropping you to busybox then it's failing in initrd.06:27
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LeeJunFanHrontore: yeah.06:27
Re|ent|essway to step on my toes LeeJunFan06:27
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LeeJunFanyeah, you're welcome Re|ent|ess :)06:28
Re|ent|esslol06:28
carutsuhow do i install a deb file?06:28
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Re|ent|essseriously not cool tho06:28
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Re|ent|essclick on it06:28
LeeJunFancarutsu: dpkg -i [file] 06:28
LeeJunFanor that. :)06:28
Re|ent|ess!deb06:28
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)06:29
ffffuLeeJunFan: yeah.. what should i do in the busybox ?06:29
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Re|ent|ess:O06:29
nonuda_guys, i want to install linux+wine on pentium 200mmx 64 mb ram, what distro should i use?06:29
Re|ent|essnothing06:29
Re|ent|ess!wine06:29
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:29
ffffuLeeJunFan: i know i should load my raid1 by using modprobe raid1 ..is it correct?06:29
carutsuLeeJunFan thanks06:29
Re|ent|esswtf06:29
Re|ent|essi said how to install06:30
Re|ent|ess<_<06:30
ouellettesrnonuda_ i would use xubuntu06:30
Re|ent|essme06:30
ffffuLeeJunFan: what should i do in the busybox ?06:30
nonuda_!xubuntu06:30
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels06:30
LeeJunFanffffu: has it ever worked? What happened to break it?06:30
HrontoreLeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12874/ (its still mesa)06:30
nonuda_thanks06:31
Re|ent|essHrontore: i dont think your driver is supported yet06:31
daskreech2carutsu: right click it and select kubuntu package menu06:31
ffffui don't know..live cd installation was ok..after that it just boot into busybox06:31
ouellettesrnonuda_, np06:31
Hrontorennnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooo06:31
Re|ent|essyou could build a driver06:31
LeeJunFanHrontore: I think maybe it needs a reinstall as in sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx06:31
daskreech2ffffu: where does it freak?06:32
Hrontorei'll do that06:32
LeeJunFanHrontore: the fglrx drivers setup a 'diversion' or whatever it's called, it moves your mesa drivers and replaces them with ones from ati, it doesn't look like that is working for you.06:32
Hrontorey06:32
ffffubrb trhanks for the help i going for lunch first ;p06:33
Hrontoreoops ment for that y to be in consol06:33
LeeJunFanHrontore: I'm running a 9200 on one machine and a 9700 on this one, it works in edgy.06:33
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Re|ent|essHrontore: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Fglrx06:33
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HrontoreLeeJunFan: im running 9600 cuase that waht it came with06:33
LeeJunFanffffu: hrm, to me it sounds like your initrd just wasn't built right :( Not sure if you can fix it from there.06:33
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LeeJunFanffffu: initrd isn't really something you can fix unless you have a working machine.06:34
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Re|ent|ess!initrd06:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about initrd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:34
Re|ent|esslol06:34
jefftohello everybody06:34
Re|ent|esshi jeffto06:34
jefftohi Re|ent|ess06:34
Re|ent|esswhat can i help ya with?06:34
jefftoI have a trouble related to my CD/DVD/RW drive06:35
Re|ent|ess!cdrw06:35
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto06:35
jefftonop06:35
Re|ent|esswhat is the problem?06:35
jefftonot related to how to create an iso file06:35
jefftoMy DVD unit can burn at 10X06:35
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jefftobut using K3b is burning at 2X06:36
jefftothe same happend with CDroms06:36
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LeeJunFanjeffto: feisty?06:36
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jefftonop, edgy06:36
jefftoon a toshiba A105 laptop06:36
Re|ent|essLeeJunFan: ty but i am heling him06:36
Re|ent|ess:p06:36
Re|ent|esslearn how to be a good helpwe06:36
Re|ent|ess^helper06:36
LeeJunFanare you? :)06:37
Re|ent|essyeah06:37
Re|ent|essbish06:37
Re|ent|essis you drive reconized?06:37
jefftoyes06:37
Re|ent|essis K#b set to auto?06:37
Re|ent|ess^k3b06:37
jefftoyes06:38
Re|ent|essfor 10x didi you set it to the setting?06:38
jefftoyes , on setup it's like you say06:38
jefftobut when start to burn, no matter if a I do it like normal user or like root06:38
jefftoalways burn at 2x06:39
Re|ent|essyou get it at 2x06:39
Re|ent|esshmm06:39
jefftobut, wait a second06:39
Re|ent|essare your burn corrpt?06:39
Re|ent|ess^burns06:39
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jefftonop06:39
Re|ent|esshmm..06:39
Re|ent|essis DMA on?06:39
jefftowhere I can see that?06:39
Re|ent|ess!dma06:39
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA06:39
Re|ent|essdma may not be on for /dev/hcd ( or what every its named06:40
martalliAre suse-style kde menus available for kubuntu?06:40
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Re|ent|ess!suse06:41
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)06:41
Re|ent|esshmm06:41
jefftolet me try06:41
Re|ent|ess!suse-style06:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suse-style - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:41
martalli!kicker06:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:41
Re|ent|esslol06:41
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martalliI guess I could figure it out if I knew what the menu was called06:41
odin__!windows06:41
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:41
odin__lol06:41
martalliI'll check #suse06:41
jefftomartalli, did you have searh on kde-look?06:41
odin__had to try06:41
odin__:D06:41
jeffto*search06:41
martalliubotu rocks06:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rocks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:42
martallilol i wasn't talking to you but about you ubotu06:42
Re|ent|essim getting a goole bot on here06:42
Re|ent|essbrb06:42
odin__lol06:42
odin__we need a fishbot tbh06:42
Hirvinen!bots06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
odin__fishbot only lives on quakenet :p06:43
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odin__warm waters, he likes it there06:43
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daskreech2martalli: kickoff06:44
daskreech2!kickoff06:44
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233106:44
martallidaskreech2, Thanks06:44
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jefftoNop06:44
martalliI asked in  #suse and no answer, jst ringing echos06:44
jefftoI have a failed message06:45
jefftoHDIO_GETGEO failed: inappropiate ioctl for device06:45
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draik!beryl06:46
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:46
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jefftoRe|ent|ess, nope06:47
jefftoit fails06:47
daskreech2martalli: :-)06:47
jefftoHDIO_GETGEO failed: inappropiate ioctl for device06:47
Re|ent|esswhat was the last thing i said >_>06:47
odin__[05:42]  <Re|ent|ess> brb06:48
odin__:p06:48
Re|ent|esslol06:48
jefftothat try turning on DMA06:48
martalliThat's too bad, kickoff is not available int he repos06:48
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odin__google a repo with it in, u might strike it lucky06:49
odin__:] 06:49
daskreech2martalli: still beta06:49
odin__bleh right06:50
odin__tis 6am06:50
odin__off to bed06:50
odin__nn06:50
daskreech2night06:50
OsteHovelbedtime now? its 06 in the morning here...06:53
OsteHovel:P06:53
aznsldhi all06:54
daskreech2hey06:54
aznsldHow is everyone06:54
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philfo1how can I find out WHY my computer is using 1.9GB of memory?06:57
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Re|ent|ess!google lol06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:57
Re|ent|ess[Google]  #1 LOL.com - Laugh out loud at funny jokes and comments ( http://www.lol.com/ )06:57
Re|ent|ess[Google]  Desc: n/a06:57
Lord_Ramen[Google]  #1 LOL.com - Laugh out loud at funny jokes and comments ( http://www.lol.com/ )06:57
Lord_Ramen[Google]  Desc: n/a06:57
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Lord_Ramenyay06:57
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HrontoreLeeJunFan: im running 9600 cuase that waht it came with06:58
Hrontorerod@rod-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.35.5-1*.deb06:58
Hrontoredpkg: error processing xorg-driver-fglrx_8.35.5-1*.deb (--install):06:58
Hrontore cannot access archive: No such file or directory06:58
HrontoreErrors were encountered while processing:06:58
Hrontore xorg-driver-fglrx_8.35.5-1*.deb06:58
Hrontorerod@rod-desktop:~$06:58
Hrontoreoops didnt mean to do that06:58
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philfo1hola?06:58
daskreech2hola06:58
Re|ent|essyes philfo106:58
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philfo1I'm just wondering how I can find out WHY my computer is using what appears in Top to be 1.9GB of memory06:59
philfo1and what I can kill06:59
Re|ent|essdo you have a swap?06:59
philfo1yes06:59
daskreech2philfo1: memory  + swap + plus wishful thinking06:59
Re|ent|essis the swap aleast 2g06:59
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philfo1I think so.07:00
lunar-raven!w32codecs07:00
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs07:00
HrontoreLeeJunFan:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12876/07:00
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philfo1let me open gparted07:00
philfo1unless there's another way I can find out.07:00
lunar-raven!mplayer6407:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mplayer64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:00
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Re|ent|esstype mount --list -v07:01
Re|ent|essmount -v i mean07:01
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Re|ent|esssee if its mounted first07:01
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Re|ent|ess!google mplayer6407:02
philfo1I don't know what to make of this07:02
Re|ent|ess[Google]  #1 Mplayer64[INACTIVE]  - BestTechie Forums ( http://www.besttechie.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8274 )07:02
Re|ent|ess[Google]  Desc: n/a07:02
Re|ent|essc/c/p07:02
Re|ent|esscopy it here philfo107:03
philfo1what?  the info?07:03
Re|ent|essyes07:04
philfo1isn't that a bit much?07:04
Re|ent|esscopy it07:04
Re|ent|essnop07:04
philfo1how do I copy all that?07:04
Jucato!pastebin07:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:04
Re|ent|essty07:04
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Re|ent|esshi Andruk07:04
pollyo!libdvdcss207:04
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:04
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Re|ent|esshi troxor07:06
philfo1it's just THIS slow!  this is amazing!  carrier pigeons move info faster!07:06
Re|ent|ess!google libdvdcss207:06
Re|ent|ess[Google]  #1 libdvdcss2 and w32codecs for Ubuntu  Ubuntu Blog ( http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/ )07:06
Re|ent|ess[Google]  Desc: n/a07:06
philfo1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12877/07:07
philfo1there you go07:07
Re|ent|essnetsplit!07:07
Jucato!nvidia07:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:07
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Re|ent|ess!google ATI Ubuntu07:07
Re|ent|ess[Google]  #1 BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - Community Ubuntu Documentation ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI )07:08
Re|ent|ess[Google]  Desc: n/a07:08
Re|ent|esslol07:08
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JucatoRe|ent|ess: stop doing that please07:08
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philfo1you talking to me relentless?07:08
Re|ent|essyes philfo107:08
philfo1what does this mean?07:08
Re|ent|essi dont see a swap mounted07:09
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philfo1so how do I fix that?07:09
philfo1there are no words for my amount of frustration with this operating system right now07:10
Re|ent|essresize and make 2 gigs available and make it a swap07:10
philfo1I HAVE a swap!07:11
philfo1can't I just mount the partition?07:11
Re|ent|essmount -u07:11
Re|ent|esssrry07:11
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philfo1what does this command do?07:11
Re|ent|essmount -a07:11
Re|ent|essmount all of the drvies installed07:11
philfo1U?  they don't have letters though, right?07:12
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Re|ent|essmount -a07:12
Re|ent|ess-a stands for all07:12
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philfo1ok, I did "sudo mount -a" & it just got me to the next $07:13
philfo1is that it?07:13
Re|ent|essyes07:13
Re|ent|esseverything sould be mounted07:13
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philfo1I am quite perturbed, but it's not your fault.07:14
philfo1the funny thing is, is that you mention the ATI card.07:14
Re|ent|essis your memeoer still being aten?07:14
Re|ent|ess^memory07:14
philfo1top says 1929800k used07:15
Re|ent|esswhat application do you have running?07:15
philfo1konqueror, konsole, konversation.07:16
philfo1I don't know what is going in the background07:16
Re|ent|esshmm07:16
LeeJunFanphilfo1: it's normal to have almost all your memory in use, linux uses your free memory for cache.07:16
Jucato!ram07:16
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html07:16
Re|ent|essyou can relase your memory by using a smaller destop07:17
Re|ent|ess^desktop07:17
Re|ent|ess!google fluxbox07:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google fluxbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:17
Jucatophilfo1: Linux handles memory differently from Windows07:17
Re|ent|ess[Google]  #1 .:F L U X B O X:. - Welcome to fluxbox ( http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ )07:17
Re|ent|ess[Google]  Desc: n/a07:17
philfo1why the F%$@ did I leave windows?!?  it's been 4 whole days of pain.07:17
JucatoRe|ent|ess: again, please stop with the script07:17
Re|ent|essnot a scrip07:17
Re|ent|esstt07:17
Re|ent|essim on my eggdrop07:17
Re|ent|ess<_<07:17
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Re|ent|essi rock07:17
Jucatowhatever it is please stop it.07:18
philfo1nothing but diagnosing and getting things right and diagnosing and reloading.07:18
Jucatoor reduce it to a one line thing07:18
philfo1this is EASIER!?07:18
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Re|ent|essfloxbox is a small and easyer desktop07:18
Re|ent|ess^fluxbox07:18
Jucatophilfo1: have you considered other Linux distributions?07:18
philfo1I'm not a masochist07:18
philfo1what for?07:18
JucatoRe|ent|ess: the "release your memory by using a smaller desktop" is only half true.07:19
aaroncampbell_Do people prefer kopete or gaim?07:19
philfo1I've got 4gb ram07:19
Re|ent|essgaim use more mem07:19
aaroncampbell_I've always used gaim, but I see that feisty comes with kopete07:19
philfo13.4GHz P4, that should be enough07:19
freezahow do you install a kde theme from kde-look.org that comes in a bz2 file?07:19
Jucatophilfo1: more than enough07:19
Re|ent|ess!kde07:19
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.07:19
LeeJunFanphilfo1: go read the link Jucato had ubotu send - it'll explain why you're "using" ram.07:19
Jucatofreeza: what kind of theme it is07:19
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philfo1exactly07:20
freezaone sec ill get exact link to it07:20
martalliI have kubuntu 6.10 running on a p2 333mhx laptop07:20
Re|ent|ess!ram07:20
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html07:20
LeeJunFanphilfo1: better yet run free and look at the line +/- buffers07:20
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Jucatophilfo1: what problem are you experiencing with your RAM exactly?07:20
cotywhen i install aget am i suppose to see it somwere in my menu07:20
freezahttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Domino?content=4280407:20
martalliRuns fairly well.  I am not relly certainly there is  aplace for things like fluxbuntu *just to make old hardware work*07:20
Jucatofreeza: you will have to compile it. widget styles are compiled or installed like programs07:20
philfo1some process is using more than half of it, that's what.07:20
philfo1leejunfan: at the WHAT?07:21
LeeJunFanphilfo1: when you run top press M and it'll sort by memory.07:21
freezaok so since its a bz2 just a normal ./configure, make, make install will do?07:21
coty!aget07:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:21
Jucato!compile | freeza07:21
ubotufreeza: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:21
martalli For complete antiques, a distro like puppylinux would probably be better,though07:21
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Jucatofreeza: your guide tocompiling ^^^07:21
LeeJunFanphilfo1: when you run "free" from a console it'll tell you about your memory use, the real memory used for programs is in the +/- buffers line.07:21
freezacool thx07:21
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cotywhen i installed aget am i suppose to see an icon in the menu07:21
Re|ent|essis it just more or is this distro the hardest to use?07:21
Re|ent|essKNOPPIX07:22
martalliman, wait for a ten minutes and there is yet another update int he repo's07:22
Re|ent|essget knoppix07:22
Re|ent|ess!google knoppix download07:22
Re|ent|ess[Google]  #1 KNOPPIX - Mirrors ( http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html )07:22
Re|ent|ess[Google]  Desc: n/a07:22
Jucatophilfo1: are you sure it's a single app using your RAM? you can graphically check if it's really an app or the disk cache bye running K Menu -> System -> KInfoCenter and clicking on Memory07:22
JucatoRe|ent|ess: I am giving you your last warning. please stop that. or reduce that to one line.07:22
philfo1ok, that makes more sense07:22
cotydaskreech2: when i install aget am i suppose to see an icon in the menu07:23
daskreech2what aget?07:23
daskreech2waht is aget?07:23
daskreech21aget07:23
daskreech2!aget07:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:23
cotya download accelerater07:23
daskreech2oh07:23
daskreech2umm07:23
cotylike wget07:23
daskreech2why not kget?07:23
cotyok07:23
cotynever heard of it07:23
cotylet me go get it07:23
daskreech2!kget07:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:23
daskreech2!info kget07:24
philfo128 seconds to open that window.07:24
ubotukget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1176 kB07:24
Jucatodaskreech2: kget is not a download accelerator though07:24
LeeJunFan!info kget07:24
daskreech2it isn't ?07:24
daskreech2!info aget07:24
ubotuaget: Multithreaded HTTP Download Accelerator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-6 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 72 kB07:24
daskreech2ah07:24
Re|ent|ess!online07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about online - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
Re|ent|ess!google online07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google online - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
daskreech2never mind coty07:24
Re|ent|essdammit07:24
Re|ent|essnow its broken07:24
philfo1good07:24
LeeJunFangood07:24
cotydaskreech2: so should there be an icon07:24
daskreech2coty: no clue07:24
Re|ent|essi was the only on givving goo information07:25
daskreech2coty: press Alt+F207:25
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daskreech2type aget07:25
daskreech2tell me if you see an icon07:25
philfo1ok, what do I do with this info in the memory utility?07:25
daskreech2or a terminal icon inthe top left corner07:25
Re|ent|essubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|07:25
philfo1no, you really weren't07:25
cotydaskreech2: nothing happened07:25
JucatoRe|ent|ess: stop it *now*07:25
Re|ent|essubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|07:25
Re|ent|essubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|07:25
Re|ent|essubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|07:25
Re|ent|essubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|07:25
Re|ent|essubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|07:25
Re|ent|essubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|07:25
Re|ent|essubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|07:25
Re|ent|essi was the only on givving goo information07:26
daskreech2!ops07:26
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philfo1sigh, thank you07:26
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nixternalgrrr07:26
daskreech2oooooooooh07:26
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daskreech2Jucato got an o :-)07:26
Jucatoheh :)07:26
JucatoI should really fix my aliases though :/07:26
nixternalI use the auto_blah script for irssi07:27
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daskreech2yeah I probably could have told you that from before when he was talling people to get RPMs and use alien for apache07:27
nixternalheh07:27
cotymaybe aget runs automaticaly when downloading07:27
LeeJunFandaskreech2: but he was the only one giving goo information :p07:27
Jucatodaskreech2: so why didn't you? :)07:27
daskreech2goo is right07:27
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daskreech2Jucato: well I'm an optimist07:28
Jucatocoty: that depends. what happens when you try to run it from Alt+F2?07:28
cotynothing07:28
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Jucatohm. too bad I couldn't test. aget doesn't exist on feisty...07:28
cotywhat does this guy mean? <Re|ent|ess> ubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|07:28
pollyo!libdvdcss07:28
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:28
daskreech2even when someone says they want to install something but doesn't want to learn how to do it and still keeps asking for help I give them the benefit of the doubt07:28
pollyo!multimedia07:29
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications07:29
daskreech2coty: he was politely asking to leave and go to the litle boys room07:29
Jucatocoty: "Ubuntu sucks, KNOPPIX leet (elite) Hackers Bull"07:29
cotyim crying i think he said he hates ubuntu07:29
Jucatocoty: also known as "please kick me in the butt out of this room"07:29
cotyis this true07:29
daskreech2coty: it is true07:29
cotynooooo07:29
cotyhow could hee07:29
daskreech2coty: :-)07:29
daskreech2there can be only one07:30
daskreech2 that was him07:30
Jucatoanyway, nothing to see here. move along :D07:30
cotyhow can anyone say that07:30
philfo1ok, anyone want to help me work my problem wtill?07:30
JucatoG. while repeition statement07:30
cotyif you dont like it it does not mean you put it in others faces07:30
Jucatooops. wrong app07:30
Jucatosorry07:30
daskreech2coty: good point :)07:30
philfo1still, whoops, I can't spell07:30
daskreech2coty: you have aget installed07:30
cotyplus it is free07:30
cotyyes07:30
daskreech2!info aget feisty07:31
ubotuPackage aget does not exist in feisty07:31
Jucatophilfo1: you say that a single process is using up half of your RAM?07:31
daskreech2woah07:31
philfo1no07:31
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Jucatodaskreech2: told that already07:31
Jucatos/told/said07:31
daskreech2coty: alt+F207:31
LeeJunFanwell, he's probably trying to get on tor now so he can come back and tell us all how l33t he is again :)07:31
daskreech2Jucato: thought you were joking07:31
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daskreech2man://aget07:31
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cotyi press alt+f207:31
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philfo1I'm just having a very hard time getting an app to run07:31
Jucatodaskreech2: single / only07:31
daskreech2Jucato: eh?07:32
Jucatophilfo1: ok.. so nothing really to do with RAM at all?07:32
cotydaskreech2: nothing happens07:32
philfo1and I NEED it to so I can finish a job by tomorrow evening07:32
philfo1I don't know.07:32
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cotymaybe it is not an app07:32
Jucatodaskreech2: man:/foo not man://foo07:32
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philfo1I break computers & keep IT people employed07:32
daskreech2ah07:32
daskreech2right07:32
daskreech2sorry07:32
daskreech2philfo1: hoorah!07:32
rickydoes anyone know if i can install beryl with the gforce fx5200?07:32
daskreech2coty: serious?07:32
cotydaskreech2: i guess07:33
cotydaskreech2: i have no clue07:33
philfo1I killed 5 in one night back when I was stationed up in WA state07:33
daskreech2coty: does alt+f3 pop up an app window?07:33
Jucato!beryl | ricky07:33
uboturicky: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:33
philfo1not on purpose, of course07:33
cotydaskreech2: a window pops up07:33
Jucatodaskreech2: Alt+F207:33
philfo1just the way the cookie crumbles07:33
cotydaskreech2: with alt+f207:33
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daskreech2coty: right07:33
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daskreech2in that window type man:/aget07:33
Jucatophilfo1: ok, what app were you having problems running btw?07:33
philfo1gimpshop 2.207:34
philfo1but it's not just that app07:34
philfo1it's anything07:34
Jucatohm....07:34
philfo1machine is just too slow07:34
Jucatoit's really slow? that's weird...07:34
philfo1taking 18 seconds avg to open konsole07:34
cotydaskreech2: ok a page came up07:34
daskreech2that's the instructions for aget07:34
Jucatophilfo1: ok totally weird07:34
philfo1yeah, especially for my processor + memory07:35
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philfo1we thought we had it worked out to a corrupt driver for my ATI card07:35
Jucatophilfo1: but my personal advice, if Kubuntu doesn't work for you, you could try other distros out there. don't give up on Linux just yet. Linux isn't just Kubuntu :)07:35
philfo1so I reconfigured the card07:35
philfo1no, I really love LINUX07:36
philfo1really.07:36
cotydaskreech2: there not much of options07:36
philfo1but I have to get this job finished by tomorrow afternoon.07:36
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flaccidw0a you can do firefox2 on dapper!07:36
daskreech2coty: maybe. never used aget07:36
daskreech2flaccid: yeah just not officially07:36
Jucatoflaccid: not through the repos I belive07:36
cotydaskskreech:07:36
cotySYNOPSIS07:36
cotyaget [options]  file ..07:37
cotydaskreech: what does that mean07:37
daskreech2coty: right I forget you don't know how to read man files07:37
Jucatolooks like it's a command line app then07:37
daskreech2anything in [ ]  is optional07:37
LeeJunFanphilfo1: has anyone told you to run 'dmesg' yet?07:37
cotydaskreech2: meaning?07:37
philfo1nope.07:37
flaccidi think its funny how i complained and was told that more than libstdc needed upgrading but hey!07:37
daskreech2meaning to run the application you have to type aget file07:38
LeeJunFanphilfo1: try that in konsole, the kernel may be giving you some errors/clues, especially if it's hardware errors.07:38
daskreech2there are [options] 07:38
daskreech2which of course are optional :)07:38
Jucatocoty: it's definitely only a command line app07:38
Jucatocoty: http://www.enderunix.org/aget/07:38
cotyso what do i do07:38
Jucatoyou use it in the command line/Konsole07:38
cotylike?07:38
Jucatocoty: that web page has the instructions07:39
Jucato"How to use" section07:39
coty ok07:39
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daskreech2coty: open konsole07:39
Jucatohm...actually it's not that clear... but basically what you do is "aget path/to/file/to/download"07:40
daskreech2what about the URL?07:40
daskreech2oh wait07:40
daskreech2 that is the URL :-)07:40
philfo1you want me to paste that up?07:40
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daskreech2Ohhhh07:40
LeeJunFanphilfo1: yeah, pastebin07:40
daskreech2I have an unsolvable problem07:40
daskreech2anyone want to help?07:40
cotydaskreech2: ok i open konsole07:40
LeeJunFanphilfo1: probably only need the last 20 or so lines if there's a real problem.07:41
daskreech2coty: you are downloading something from the net?07:41
cotyno07:41
daskreech2oh :-|07:41
daskreech2sooo why do we need aget?07:41
nixternalcould not find octec/application-stream <- wth is that all about?07:41
philfo1whoops, I copied the whole thing07:41
nixternaloctet too07:41
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hansenhi. where can I find an intro on .dep packages and how to build packages for ubuntu?07:41
cotydaskreech2: for the future07:42
daskreech2coty: ah ok07:42
flaccidah firefox2 from getfirefox.com is definately faster than ubuntu version07:42
LeeJunFanphilfo1: that's okay - whats the link?07:42
philfo1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12883/07:42
hansenfor now my goal is just to get the newerst ufraw packaged for edgy :)07:42
philfo1just the lag from right-click to "copy" is too long.07:42
Jucatonixternal: looks familiar... but I forgot how they resolved that issue in #kde... tried running kbuildsycoca ?07:42
philfo1amazing07:42
hansenI found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268687 and installed prevu07:43
daskreech2well jus guessing you would go to the directory that you wantto download into and type aget http://something.com/downloads/file.get07:43
Jucato!packaging | hansen07:43
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hansenright now prevu-init seems to be creating a parallel universe in /var/cache/prevu...07:43
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daskreech2i have no access to termninals 1-607:43
Admiral_Chicagodaskreech2: what did you do recently?07:43
David_Hi07:43
Admiral_Chicagohello07:43
David_How can I install ipw3945 network card?07:43
daskreech2well reasonable access07:43
daskreech2Admiral_Chicago: no clue :)07:44
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philfo1LeeJunFan: you get that url?07:44
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: yeah, nothing looks suspicious.07:44
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Admiral_Chicagodaskreech2: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not work?07:44
LeeJunFanphilfo1: is your / on /dev/hda something or other?07:44
philfo1good.07:44
daskreech2when I press alt+ctrl+X i get a screen cut in half07:44
daskreech2on the left half is black07:44
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daskreech2the right half is cut in 407:45
philfo1no, my original "test" install was, but now i'm on a SATA drive, /dev/sda1 I believe.07:45
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: okay, try this 'sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda1' to test your HD speed.07:45
David_How can I install ipw3945 network card?07:45
daskreech2the top is the terminal x the next one down is desktop 1 in x the next down is desktop 3 the next down is desktop 407:46
daskreech2no idea how that happened07:46
philfo1LeeJunFan: 172 MB in  3.03 seconds =  56.78 MB/sec07:46
cotywhat do i do now that im in terminal07:46
daskreech2coty: you are testing aget?07:46
LeeJunFanphilfo1: well, that's not it either. HD is dang fast.07:46
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cotydaskreech2: trying07:47
daskreech2Admiral_Chicago: any clue?07:47
philfo1how about my Graphics card?07:47
philfo1that was the issue we were working earlier tonight07:47
daskreech2coty: you have something to download?07:47
pollyoWow what a difference now that I have nvida driver setup correctly.  Google earth actually works ok.07:47
philfo1hours ago07:47
Admiral_Chicagonope, unless you changed something recently which is the only thing I could imagine07:47
cotydaskreech2: no but i can find somthing07:47
daskreech2Admiral_Chicago: damn :-( guess I'll reboot07:47
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: That shouldn't cause problems launching apps, I mean it could cause problems drawing them, but you should see something happening not long after you click something.07:48
pollyoBefore I could watch it draw the globe frame by frame.07:48
philfo1right, right07:48
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cotydaskreech2: guess what07:48
LeeJunFanphilfo1: can you 'ping localhost' ?07:48
philfo1what do you mean?07:48
philfo1in terminal?07:49
LeeJunFanphilfo1: yeah, run that in a terminal.07:49
pollyoWhat has been in development longer Gnome or KDE?07:49
LeeJunFanphilfo1: hit ctrl-c to stop it after it pings a couple times.07:49
philfo1I'm only 5 days into linux, don't know the lingo07:49
Jucato_ok that sucked greatly07:49
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Jucato_pollyo: what do you mean by "in development longer"?07:49
Jucato_nixternal: btw, did you get your problem resolved? (I just had my 6th hard freeze)07:50
pollyophilifo1: Does your printer work with Linux?07:50
philfo1what do I do with that?07:50
cotydaskreech2: im getting a new/used computer this weekend!!07:50
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seven11any news about the final feisty relese07:50
daskreech2coty: damn that's nearly exactly waht I was guessing07:50
LeeJunFanphilfo1: did it say 64 bites from... ?07:50
cotydaskreech2: lol07:50
pollyoJucato_: Who was out first?  What system was available first?07:50
LeeJunFanphilfo1: or did it say host unreachable or unknown, etc...07:50
cotydaskreech2: and guess what im going to do with it07:50
Jucatopollyo: historically? KDE07:50
philfo1LeeJunfan: yes.64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.019 ms07:50
daskreech2Jucato: what?07:50
daskreech2Jucato: what other measure is there?07:51
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pollyoJucato: So KDE was first on the scene?07:51
daskreech2coty: ummm heat pizzas?07:51
LeeJunFanphilfo1: okay, now this one 'ping -c3 `hostname`'07:51
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Jucatodaskreech2: dunno. someone might come up w/ something :)07:51
daskreech2pollyo: technically cde was :-)07:51
Jucatopollyo: yes07:51
cotydaskreech2: put kububtu on it XD07:51
daskreech2whoooot107:51
LeeJunFanphilfo1: that'll ping using your hostname 3 times (-c 3).07:51
pollyodaskreech2: cde?07:51
Jucatodaskreech2: you're confusing the poor guy07:51
daskreech2sorry07:51
daskreech2:-)07:51
pollyolol07:51
Jucatodaskreech2: which came first, KDE or GNOME? "technically, CDE was"07:52
Jucatowhat an answer :P07:52
daskreech2historically?07:52
pollyoJucato: I've been confused since 13 March.  I believe that is when I installed Kubuntu on this system. LOL07:52
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daskreech2that's the answer that twists my buns07:52
cotydaskreech2: the new/used computer im getting has way more ram and a better proccessor07:52
nonuda_i got this message "conversation with su failed", when i try to open adept manager in password dialog box07:52
daskreech2coty: what video card?07:52
pollyoJucato: Things are getting better though.07:52
cotydaskreech2: dont know yet07:52
daskreech2:-)07:52
Jucatodaskreech2: you could say that GNOME was first to have a "free" license... but that's offtopic now :)07:52
philfo1LeeJunfan: nothing happening.  just displays >07:53
LeeJunFanphilfo1: hit ctrl-c , you're missing the last `07:53
philfo1this is what I ran:  'ping -c3 'hostname'07:53
LeeJunFanphilfo1: should read: ping -c 3 `hostname`07:53
LeeJunFanphilfo1: backticks, not single quotes.07:54
cotyDo you want to know my second thing that i love the most about kubuntu07:54
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daskreech2katapult?07:54
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cotyno07:54
daskreech2then I don't care07:54
cotyit only takes me 5 mins to boot into it07:54
LeeJunFanpeople like relentless?07:54
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cotywindows took me 30 mins to boot into07:55
daskreech2coty: hey neat :-)07:55
cotyyes07:55
cotyi know07:55
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cotyand im so much happier with that07:55
daskreech2coty: you may want to turn off sessions then :-)07:55
cotywhy07:55
pollyocoty: Do you have a ton of spyware on that windows system?07:55
daskreech2cause my computer takes oodles of time now :-)07:55
cotyyea i did07:55
daskreech2coty: kde remembers what you were doing when you logged out and loads it back up when you log in07:55
daskreech2it's cool07:55
philfo1LeejunFan: still just a >07:55
daskreech2but takes time07:55
cotynope loads fast07:56
cotyeven when it loads that stuff07:56
cotybut07:56
philfo1this is what I ran " ping -c 3 `hostname` "07:56
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cotyif i run to many programs at once my screen goes crazy07:56
LeeJunFanphilfo1: ping -c 3 `hostname`07:56
philfo1that s what I did07:56
cotyi get a screen full of colors07:56
LeeJunFanphilfo1: be careful with the ` it's not ', and there's only 2 - around `hostname`07:57
cotythan they go away07:57
cotyand a messagge pops up07:57
philfo1I know.07:57
cotysaying i need to check my dispaly settings07:57
philfo1I put the quotations around it for the sake of demo07:57
cotyis there a way to fix that07:57
pollyoI noticed a few anti-virus applications in adept.  Do they scan for windows virus signatures or does Linux also have issues with virus software?07:57
LeeJunFanphilfo1: copy and paste mine07:57
cotysomeone said i need more swap07:57
daskreech2coty: sounds like it07:57
daskreech2how much ram do you hve?07:58
cotyhow do i do that07:58
coty128 mb07:58
philfo114 seconds to open konsole07:58
daskreech2just sitting at the top of the hillock eh?07:58
cotyyea07:58
philfo18 seconds from right click to the time when window with "paste" in it appears07:58
pollyo!virus07:58
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2107:58
daskreech2philfo1: you need some tools07:59
philfo1I need my 26oz framing hammer is what I need07:59
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daskreech2philfo1: or a big stamp to send the computer to me :)07:59
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philfo1and a 16lb maul08:00
philfo1yeah, I just finished my upgrade of this old machine08:00
pollyoAnyone know why linux developers haven't made use of the lexmark driver development kit?08:00
philfo1I'll keep it around until I get something a little nicer08:00
LeeJunFanphilfo1: any luck with that ping yet?08:01
daskreech2pollyo: hmm?08:01
philfo1LeejunFan: yup08:01
philfo1what do you want to know?08:01
philfo10% packet loss08:02
LeeJunFanphilfo1: reply from ?08:02
LeeJunFanwhat IP?08:02
LeeJunFan127.0.1.1?08:02
philfo13 trans, 3 rec08:02
philfo1yes08:02
cotydaskreech2: so how do i do more swap08:02
daskreech2!partition08:02
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:02
daskreech2repartition08:02
daskreech2good night everyone!!08:03
LeeJunFanphilfo1: okay, check /etc/hosts and make sure your hostname isn't set to an internet address other than 127.0.x.x08:03
LeeJunFanphilfo1: sudo nano /etc/hosts08:03
philfo1LeejunFan: what do you need to know?08:04
LeeJunFanphilfo1: your hostname only appears on a line that starts with 127.0.X.X ? right?08:05
LeeJunFannot on any other lines.08:05
philfo1leejunFan: localhost = 127.0.0.1 and philfo1-desktop = 127.0.1.108:05
LeeJunFanphilfo1: okay, well no deal there. man I'm pretty much clean out of ideas.08:06
philfo1dang.08:06
philfo1should I work the graphics card driver idea then?08:06
LeeJunFanphilfo1: btw - the reason I had you check that bug #9404808:06
philfo1wait, it shouldn't be affecting me anyways08:06
LeeJunFancrap no bug bot here :)08:06
LeeJunFanhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/+bug/9404808:07
nonuda_guys..right now i'm downloading ubuntu desktop, after i installed, do i have to reconfigure something again like drivers or i just sit relax and enjoy it ? ;)08:07
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daskreech2both?08:09
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DavidHow can i install my network card? is a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection08:09
LeeJunFanphilfo1: you might cat ~/.xsession-errors and see if there's any x errors listed.08:10
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Admiral_ChicagoDavid: it should work out of the box08:11
philfo1LeeJunFan:08:11
philfo1whoops, lots of them08:11
LeeJunFanphilfo1: there's bound to be some, most are non-fatal things that really won't affect you probably.08:11
intelikeyignoring wacom of course philfo108:12
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Admiral_Chicagonight all08:12
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Jucatog'night Admiral_Chicago!08:12
philfo1wacom?08:12
Admiral_ChicagoDavid: how are you trying to connect08:13
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mervteckcan anyone tell me the propper commands to install VLC?08:13
intelikeyapt-get install vlc08:14
philfo1LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12889/08:14
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Jucatosudo apt-get install vlc08:14
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mervteckdid that it didnt work =\08:15
mervteckweird it worked this time08:15
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mervteckand its the exact same command i put in08:15
Jucato:D08:15
intelikeyhow do you know it didn't work ?08:15
mervteckit errored earlier08:15
mervtecksaying unknown package or somthin08:15
Jucatoanyone here has Dia installed?08:15
Jucatomervteck: maybe the first time you didn't have the universe repository enabled08:16
mervteckno i did, i have everything enabled =P08:16
LeeJunFanphilfo1: nothing stands out there either, almost all of those invalid input dev are the wacom tablet driver things, which are normal.08:16
mervteckanyone have cedega and know how to fix bf2 problems? or steam problems?08:16
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mervteckthe cedega channel is useless08:16
intelikeymervteck that was kinda my point.     like "what was the error message"  but it's  a moot point now anyway08:16
nonuda_anyone here know a program like sonic foundry acid in windows?08:16
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philfo1ok.08:16
LeeJunFanphilfo1: what if you run a program from a konsole instead of clicking the icon?08:17
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: for instance type konsole in a konsole.08:17
intelikeydpkg - warning: while removing libnss3, directory `/usr/lib/firefox' not empty so not removed.08:17
intelikeytty23 [root#~]  rm -R /usr/lib/firefox08:17
philfo1even running konsole takes a long time.08:17
intelikeynow it's empty.08:17
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: if you start it from within konsole it takes a long time? same as clicking an icon?08:18
philfo1I'll try though08:18
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philfo1how do i run an app in konsole?08:19
LeeJunFanphilfo1: just type it's name08:19
philfo1right,  I spelled it wrong08:20
intelikeytab-completion08:20
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intelikeyuse the tab key luke.08:20
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philfo1after I was having a hard time with gimp, I was trying to open wine but the app wouldn't open at all08:20
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philfo1running from konsole is a bit faster, but not much08:23
LeeJunFanphilfo1: try starting xterm08:24
philfo1xterm?08:24
LeeJunFanphilfo1: I'm trying to rule out kde issues rather than X. xterm is not a kde application, and if it starts fast then kde may well be your issue.08:24
LeeJunFanphilfo1: yeah.08:24
LeeJunFan!info xterm08:25
ubotuxterm: X terminal emulator. In component main, is optional. Version 216-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 401 kB, installed size 992 kB08:25
LeeJunFanoh, it's optional. I thought xterm was standard install.08:25
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philfo1so what do I do with xterm?08:26
LeeJunFanphilfo1: did it open? and how fast?08:27
philfo1from terminal, most things open faster.08:27
philfo1hold on08:27
intelikeythey told me yestergo that xterm was standard install stuff08:27
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philfo1took 7 seconds to open xterm from run command option08:28
K`zanI just installed feisty and am wondering if I have to install everything I have in my edgy installation or if there is some way to bring feisty up to all those packages other than manually?  TIA.08:28
LeeJunFanyeah, that's still way too slow - should be 1-2 seconds tops.08:28
philfo1right.08:28
Jucatoyeah 2 seconds here08:29
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intelikeyhmmm takes 14 seconds for me to "startx"08:30
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philfo1i'm wondering if a setting in my BIOS08:30
LeeJunFanphilfo1: could be but doesn't really make sense. When you move windows around on the screen do they lag really bad or is it quite smooth?08:32
philfo1either way, I'm not getting any work done with the computer like this.08:32
intelikey6 seconds for x-terminal-emulator    xterm is not installed.08:32
philfo1horrible choppy lag08:32
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: really? well, that could be BIOS, if it can't move data across the bus it's going to be dang slow.08:32
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philfo1early yesterday it was screaming fast though08:33
LeeJunFanphilfo1: also could be gfx driver, but I'd still lean away from that causing slow opening like that. Even if the gfx drivers are messed it should at least start opening a window pretty quickly.08:34
philfo1I can check bios settings but I don't think anything would be out of whack there.  I've changed nothing.08:34
LeeJunFanphilfo1: well, have you changed bios settings since screaming yesterday?08:34
philfo1nope08:34
LeeJunFanheh, okay, rule that out then.08:34
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LeeJunFanwhat was making you think gfx drivers?08:34
LeeJunFanyou installed something yesterday?08:34
philfo1well, I wanted to Cal my monitor, and I have to have my gfx card installed properly.  I followed the instructions on the irc bot's ATI page for x86 arch & then it slowed down a ton.08:36
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philfo1so tonight I was going to see if I could come back & do it again with another version that could be more right and instead wound up having to reconfig the card08:37
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: okay, perhaps you should undo the ATI stuff. Are you on feisty?08:37
philfo1for just generic settings so I could get on with my work.08:37
philfo1edgy08:37
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philfo1there's no ATI settings now08:38
LeeJunFanphilfo1: did you remove xserver-xorg-fglrx?08:38
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philfo1remove?08:38
philfo1I don't know.08:38
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: sudo apt-get remove xerver-xorg-fglrx08:38
philfo1I ran like 2000 commands in some short period of time08:38
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ffffuhelp..i installed fiesty on my raid1, now at grub, i can't load the kernel.. it says File not found08:39
ffffubut when i boot into recovery, it goes into busy box08:39
ffffuwhat shd i do08:39
philfo1LeeJunFan:  it returned E: Couldn't find package xerver-xorg-fglrx08:40
philfo1Imust have removed it08:40
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LeeJunFanyeah, must be.08:41
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: try this - glxinfo | grep "client glx vend"08:41
LeeJunFanand see if it says SGI or ATI08:41
philfo1ATI08:41
LeeJunFanphilfo1: hrm, something fglrx is still on your system then.08:42
ffffuLeeJunFan: the raid problem still there08:42
ffffu!raid08:42
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO08:42
LeeJunFanphilfo1: dpkg -l | grep fglrx08:42
philfo1Xfree86-DRI" missing on display08:42
ffffuhelp..08:43
philfo1ii  xorg-driver-fglrx                          7.1.0-8.28.8+2.6.17.7-11.2           Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators08:43
LeeJunFanffffu: yeah, your problem seems to be with initrd, w/o a working linux system to work on and w/o knowing how intitramfs works it's probably a bit much to tackle. :(08:43
LeeJunFanphilfo1: it's installed still08:43
LeeJunFanphilfo1: I gave you the wrong package name - sorry.08:43
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LeeJunFanphilfo1: sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx08:43
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ffffuhmm initrd08:45
ffffuhow can i modify it08:45
philfo1i have a hankering to stick some electronics in a big degausser...08:45
ffffudo u mean the mbr there?08:45
philfo1ok, it's gone08:45
LeeJunFanffffu: no, initrd is a virtual root fs that is use during bootup.08:45
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intelikeyffffu initramfs images are not really modifyable.  you simply build a replacement.08:46
LeeJunFanffffu: mbr loads kernel, kernel loads initrd, initrd sets up the system and mounts the root fs then hands control over to init08:46
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intelikeyffffu main problem is it needs to be built from within the working system.08:46
ffffuso which part does it load the raid module so that grub can find my kernel in my raid harddisk?08:46
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philfo1LeeJunFan: where do we go now?08:47
ffffui could boot in live cd, go into terminal and mount my harddisk i guess08:47
philfo1Sing it Axel!08:47
LeeJunFanffffu: yeah, you can modify it by unarchiving it with cpio but that's way beyond what I'm going to get into on IRC especially at this hr.08:47
LeeJunFanffffu: that's where initrd is failing - it can't mount your rootmnt so it craps you out to busybox.08:48
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ffffuok... ok now i can see the grub menu..but when i choose my kernel it says file not found.. which part does it load the module so grub can find my kernel?08:48
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LeeJunFanffffu: that could be a number of reasons with raid, perhaps it's missing the md module or one of it's daughters.08:48
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ffffuto me i don't think it goes into initrd because it can't even find the kernel08:49
LeeJunFanffffu: grub says it can't find your kernel? did you put /boot on raid?08:49
philfo1recovery disk08:49
intelikeyLeeJunFan wait.  "<ffffu> ok... ok now i can see the grub menu..but when i choose my kernel it says file not found.. "  <<< that looks like a menu.lst error.08:50
LeeJunFanphilfo1: I dunno, short of making sure you don't have fglrx in your xorg.conf, then reboot the system.08:50
philfo1wow.08:50
intelikeyam i missing something ?08:50
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ffffuyeah08:50
LeeJunFanintelikey: he's got raid, if the kernel is on raid grub can't reach it - unless grub can mount raid arrays, and I'm just unaware of it.08:50
ffffuits definately a menu.lst error.. i didn't put /boot raid08:51
ffffuwhat's the correct command i should put behind ?08:51
philfo1see y'all soon08:51
intelikeyLeeJunFan but grub can't load the menu.list unless it mounts the boot prtition08:51
ubuntu_How good is 7.04 connecting wireless?08:51
intelikeyand if it can see the menu.lst and can't find the kernel   then it's not initramfs.img.08:52
LeeJunFanintelikey: true, good line of thought.08:52
intelikeyit's menu.lst08:52
RyielDoes anyone know how to copy files to a guest os in virtualbox?08:52
ffffuwhat should be in my menu.lst ? root            (hd0,0) ?08:52
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LeeJunFan!grub08:53
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:53
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LeeJunFanffffu: you need to identify what kernel you do have on /boot for grub to load. Then make sure grub is aware of that kernel image, and it's initrd, etc...08:54
intelikeyffffu the root entry tells grub where to look for the kernel and initramfs.img    the  root= entry on the kernel line tells the kernel where the system is.  which in turn the initramfs mounts and makes avalable.    (just some basics of how it works)08:55
LeeJunFanI really need to get to bed, good luck to ya.08:55
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intelikeyi should have said  (root) -vs- root=/*08:56
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drewzfSorry for the hopping08:57
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intelikeydo you follow ?      root    (blah)    and  root=/blah   don't have to be the same partition nor the same disk.   mine infact aren't.08:57
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cypher1i installed kubuntu on my ubuntu machine.. in KDE the fonts are very large in menus, thunderbird, FF etc08:59
cypher1am i missing something08:59
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drewzfI need to register a single IP address as 2 name servers, how can I do this?09:00
drewzfIt's only temporary and I have nothing running but a web server.09:00
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freezadoes anyone know why when i do a ./configure i get an error msg: Can't find X libraries09:02
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cypher1drewzf: do you mean you want 2 machines with same ip address ?09:03
cypher1freeza: i think you need X dev files09:03
cypher1!x-system-dev09:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x-system-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:03
bill__kcan someone point me to whatever i need to configure to get a remote connection to basically the terminal09:03
bill__kvnc isn't an option (too slow)09:03
drewzfcypher1: No, I want to bind a domain to a machine with a single public IP address.09:03
intelikeyfreeza normally that would be because they are not installed09:03
freezaok09:03
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freezais the package called x-system-dev?09:04
cypher1freeza: not sure09:04
pollyoDoes kubuntu support my microsoft IR remote control in anyway?09:04
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intelikeyxorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries09:05
cypher1freeza: check in the configure script, which file or directory it is expecting.. then search on packages.ubuntu.com to find the package09:05
Jucatofreeza: xorg-dev09:06
philfo1ok, I'm back.  that reboot took a long time.09:06
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Jucatooh intelikey said it09:06
Black_Cathello. when i try to configure dialup connection thru kppp it shows: "/etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read." what do i do?09:06
krautmoin09:06
intelikeythat's ok just ignore me.09:06
intelikey:)09:06
freezaok cool thx09:07
cypher1Jucato: i installed kubuntu in my ubuntu and now the fonts in all menus of thunderbird, FF, xchat etc etc has become large.. have i missed anything ?09:07
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philfo1well, the computer is still incredibly slow.09:07
Jucatocypher1: thunderbird, firefox, and xchat are GTK apps. so they would have a different setting from the rest of KDE. try checking System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Style and Fonts09:08
philfo1slow, let's just say.09:08
philfo1i'm at the point right now where I am going to be forced to go find a Windoze alternative because I have to get this job done.09:08
cypher1Jucato: i do not seem to have Apperance option anywhere in the menu09:09
pollyophilfo1: What do you need to get done?09:09
Jucatocypher1: not in the menu. in K Menu -> System Settings09:09
Jucatocypher1: you are running on KDE right now, right?09:09
cypher1Jucato: ah got it09:09
cypher1Jucato: sorry very new to KDE09:09
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philfo1I need to take a 168MB TIFF image and restore it.  it's a scan of a very old photo.  my lab has outsourced it to me personally because of an emergency.09:10
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philfo1before I loaded linux, I would have been done with this in 2 hours.09:10
smilegood mornin everybody09:10
crazy_penguinGood morning!09:11
smilehow can I use Kbabel to translate a word ?09:11
anti_popsomeone else login problems in ICQ ?09:11
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philfo1I've barely started it and linux has done nothing but get in the way.  just too slow.  something about the OS and my machine right now.  I don't know09:11
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philfo1looks like another install might be coming tomorrow.09:12
smilesomeone can tell me how to use Kbabel to translate a word ?09:12
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pollyophilfo1: Why not just install your old windows on a portion of the drive?  Make a dual boot system until you get up to speed on linux?  Sounds like you might need windows for your work until you can see if linux has the applications available that you will need for your work.09:12
philfo1but it might be a big build.  Suse perhapse09:13
philfo1I don't have that amount of time09:13
pollyophilfo1: My system is currently dual boot and I find myself booting windows very rare since 13 March (when I installed linux)09:13
cypher1Jucato: thanks! i switched to "clearlooks" and it is better now09:14
philfo1yesterday, afternoon the system was working very well & now it's slow like cold bear crap on a frozen pond09:14
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philfo1I intended on having mine a dual-boot machine & it was for a few days.09:15
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pollyophilfo1: Did you trash your windows partition?09:15
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philfo1but the C: drive for windows was RAID configured and my linux install was on a very slow (turned out to be probably corrupted) drive09:16
smilephilfo1: havin a multiboot has nothing to do with the speed of Linux ... chech your SWAP space09:16
pollyophilfo1: I did that on one of my machines  only after successfully resizing the ntfs partition.  I later selected it for installation of linux. Uggg.. What a dumb move on my part.09:16
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philfo1my whole system is backed up on a 250gb external09:16
philfo13GB swap space09:16
philfo1I really love Linux.  but now that I NEED it to work, I'm having the worst problems I can.09:17
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bruja8what is the purpose of having RAID?09:17
philfo1well, not quite the worst, but I'm still not working on any imagery.09:17
smilephilfo1: 3 G :-o ... this is too much .. u just need the double of the memory card space09:17
smilephilfo1: if u have 265ko memory .. make 512 swap spaces .. etc.09:18
smilephilfo1: Linux can be fast on the slowest Pc in the world09:18
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philfo1kubuntu did that on an auto-install09:19
philfo1but let me open gparted.09:19
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ggulmatthi09:20
philfo1smile: my system is not slow at all though09:20
smileu run Karamba ?09:21
philfo1and how do I find out how big my ko memory is?09:21
intelikeysmile hmmm i had kbabel installed.  but when i opened it it said i had to fill out some info so i don't have it insalled anymore   sorry can't help ya there.09:21
philfo1karamba?09:21
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smileintelikey: I know .. i didnt understand what these info r ? :-(09:22
smilephilfo1: what is ur configuration ?09:22
philfo1you mean hardware?09:22
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smilephilfo1: ya09:23
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fuzzy_logichi09:24
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smilefuzzy_logic: hi09:24
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pollyophilfo1: did you check to see if anything is sucking resources?09:25
philfo1smile: P4 3.4GHz 2BM L3 cpu,  3+GB RAM,  linux currently installed on an 80GB SATA drive, formerly RAID configured.09:25
philfo1my comp is just sucking.09:25
pollyophilfo1: I had a little program running that had a guy walk around on my screen and it seemed to crash and slow my computer to a snails pace until I went in and killed the application.09:25
fuzzy_logicjust a quick question.. i added a new panel in kde, but when i try to configure it i get the configuration screen of the taskbar09:25
smilephilfo1: wooow .. u hav the fastest pc in the world .. it's perfect ..09:26
philfo1I don't know what my background apps are.09:26
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philfo1no, not fastest pc in the world09:26
smilephilfo1: check if u have a process that takes much ressorces09:26
philfo1should I change the size of my swap?09:26
pollyophilfo1: I think you hit Ctrl-ESC for a list of apps running.09:26
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smilephilfo1: no09:27
fuzzy_logicanyone help plz?09:27
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ffffunow i get it09:27
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ffffui'm triyng to boot from dual harddisk /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 by using raid09:27
philfo1ok, ctrl-esc didn't do that, it opened rename09:28
fuzzy_logic i added a new panel in kde, but when i try to configure it i get the configuration screen of the taskbar09:28
pollyophilfo1: Are you in kde or gnome?09:28
nonudaguys, i'm instaling ubuntu-desktop using adept manager, and i see i error in download, it is openoffice.org-style-default, will it be a problem? and can i fix it?09:28
smilephilfo1: ok .. type ksysguard09:28
intelikeyfuzzy_logic there is a bug.   i think you have to restart kde.09:29
intelikeynot sure.09:29
philfo1there were two ksysguards going at once.09:29
philfo1one had two d's at the end.09:29
fuzzy_logicah ok.. thanks ill try that intelikely09:30
cypher1rhythmbox is playing mp3's but amarok is not playing mp3s.. do we need to install separate libraries for getting mp3 support in amarok ?09:30
philfo1ok, ksysguard is open.09:30
pollyoAnyone know if I can make use of my windows media center remote control with linux in anyway?09:30
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philfo1smile: you saw what I have in this machine.  it takes over 20 seconds to just open a konsole.09:31
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philfo1not cool at all09:31
smilephilfo1: now check the biggest Vmsize and Vmrss09:31
intelikeypollyo i don't know.  but.  linux does have ir support.09:31
pollyoinelikey: Ok. Thank you.09:31
smilephilfo1: and tell me what's the process09:31
intelikeypollyo look in   kcontrol > parifreals09:32
intelikeyiirc.09:32
philfo1konversation is the largest.09:33
philfo1then knotify09:33
philfo1101 processes running though09:34
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fuzzy_logicanother question.. does anyone know what i should do before i can do a bluetooth file transfer?09:34
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smilephilfo1: thats normal .. nothing's wrong :-(09:35
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philfo1kwin is big, ksysguard, klauncher.09:35
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maltaciao09:35
smilephilfo1: did u installed Compiz or Beryl ?09:35
philfo1nope09:35
maltac' qualche italiano?????????????09:35
Jucato!it | malta09:35
ubotumalta: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:35
maltaok09:36
maltagrazie09:36
charlie5hi ... does anyone use the kubu repositories in .au ? ... i cannot seem to connect at the moment09:36
pollyointelikey: Looking09:36
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fuzzy_logiccharlie5: not in .au, but you can try to connect to other server maybe?09:37
pollyointelikey: I do not see that option.09:37
pollyointelikey: Perhaps I need to install a package.09:37
charlie5fuzzy_logic: thanks, i guess i should try that if it doesn't work soon \09:38
intelikeypollyo i may not remember where it is...  but try in the networking section....  seems like it may be with the bluetooth stuff09:38
philfo1if I do one more install, i'm hoping to link these two 80GB drives back up into RAID09:38
smilephilfo1: i dunno really whats wrong .. that must work well .. !?09:38
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philfo1no, it's just one of those things I'd like to do.09:39
fuzzy_logichave2reboot.. cya09:39
philfo1I have no idea what's wrong either.09:39
intelikeyfuzzy_logic what for ?09:39
philfo1I'm beyond frustration09:39
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intelikeylibtranslate-bin - command line translator <<< anyone know anything about that ?09:40
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fuzzy_logicback09:40
philfo1this photo restoration was due next wednesday, but the customers mother passed away last night (photos of her mother I'm restoring) and now she needs them saturday.09:40
intelikeythat was a reboot ?09:40
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fuzzy_logicwell.. actually a restart of x09:40
fuzzy_logiclol09:40
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fuzzy_logicthat was suggested by someone as a solution to my problem :)09:40
philfo1I'm going to have to use another comp09:40
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fuzzy_logicop'd? what's that?09:41
philfo1I'm so disappointed because I've been here on this forum for the last 5 days getting help with one thing or another.09:41
cotyIs there an app for recording my screen09:41
smilephilfo1: no .. ur comp is perfect .. something wrong in linux configuration09:41
philfo1I want to USE my computer, not just fix it09:41
intelikeydaz da guys dat can ban you from da channel.09:41
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Tm_Tintelikey: what's that?09:42
intelikeyTm_T just playing.09:42
smilephilfo1: no one can help u if u dont know what's wrong exactly09:42
cotyintelikey: do you know of a good app for recording the screen09:42
fuzzy_logicyes! that reboot worked.. thanks for the one who suggested that09:42
philfo1right.09:42
intelikeyscreenshot or active recording ?09:42
Tm_Tintelikey: hmh, can I still kick you, just for playing?09:42
cotyintelikey: active recording09:42
philfo1well, i'm a linux n00b.  5 days09:42
philfo1that's it.09:43
cotysame09:43
intelikeyTm_T sure if you fell like it.09:43
smilephilfo1: the speed of linux depends on many reason .. memory .. disk kind .. process .. Xserver .. ....09:43
fuzzy_logiclol.. i'm 2 weeks!! mwaha :P09:43
Tm_Tintelikey: hmh, then no09:43
fuzzy_logicanyone use xchat?09:43
philfo1well, should I do another install?09:43
intelikeycoty there is but it would tame me a month of sundays to find it.09:43
cotyfuzzy_logic: i have it but dont use it09:43
philfo1I've got another 80GB drive ready to go.09:43
cotyintelikey: could you give me the name09:44
philfo1but I'm getting really tired of reconfiguring stuff.09:44
intelikeyfuzzy_logic and you're welcome.09:44
smilephilfo1: maybe09:44
intelikeycoty that's what would take so long.09:44
cotyintelikey: oh09:44
philfo1that will be my 3rd full install in less than a week09:44
fuzzy_logicdo you know how to always show a userlist in a sidebar or so?09:44
intelikey!recording09:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about recording - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:44
fuzzy_logicshit! schooltime.. cya peeps.. thanks for help09:44
cotyso does anyone else know on the spot of a screen recorder09:44
smilephilfo1: i will give u a good partition .. wait09:44
pollyoAhhh.... lirc09:44
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cotylirc?09:45
intelikey!away > fuzzy_logic09:45
coty!away>coty09:45
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intelikeycoty iirc is irc short hand for 'if i recall correctly'09:45
pollyocoty: Yes for using remote controls on linux.09:45
smilephilfo1: make a 70 Mb /boot09:46
cotyoh09:46
intelikeyah lirc09:46
intelikeynot iirc09:46
intelikeyheh09:46
cotyi was hoping for a screen recorder09:46
intelikeyyeah that's it pollyo09:46
smilephilfo1: 700Mb Swap09:46
pollyocoty: I have this Mircrosoft Media Center remote and I want to see if I can use it for something on linux.09:46
cotyoh09:46
smilephilfo1: and the rest root (/)09:46
cotyi would like a screen recorder so i can give some tutorials09:47
intelikeyi got behind but now i'm....   still behind09:47
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smilepollyo: did u truied wine ?09:47
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pollyosmile: I love wine with my linux.09:47
pollyosmile: Though I do not make use of it much.09:47
cotywine does not work for me09:47
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cotyso does anyone know of a screen recorder09:48
pollyosmile: I want to look into using my windows dll's on wine.09:48
pollyosmile: I was reading that it might make more things work under wine.09:48
smilepollyo: and maybe ur media center09:48
pollyosmile: I have to read up on it more.09:48
philfo1pinot noir with smoked gouda and a hard baugette09:48
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cotyso im guessing there is no screen recorders09:49
pollyosmile: I'll have to look into that a bit more.  Thanks for the suggestion.09:49
_4str1coty: i have recordMyDesktop09:49
smilepollyo: welcome09:49
cotyis that a app i can get in adept09:49
_4str1yes09:50
cotyok09:50
cotythanks09:50
_4str1but not working very well on my computer09:50
coty_4str1: why not?09:51
_4str1too greedy i think09:51
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_4str1but i havent configure it for the moment09:51
_4str1just test with the default configuration09:51
_4str1that's, maybe, the reason why ..09:52
cotyim firing up adept09:52
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AZNSLD!apache09:52
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)09:52
pollyo!lirc09:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:52
_4str1coty: sorry for my english but i'm french ;)09:52
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coty_4str1: no worrys im itlian XD09:53
_4strO^^09:54
cotybut i live in america09:54
cotybyzanz is a desktop recorder also09:55
cotyi just found it09:55
_4strOhh will try09:55
bruja8buy can you record the beryl effects with that?09:55
cotyso is istanbul09:55
_4strOi want to record my wonderfull beryl desktop09:55
bruja8cuz i couldn't09:55
bruja8i get a blue screen09:56
_4strOwhith ?09:56
cotyi still have not gotten beryl09:56
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cotyI'd love to09:56
cotybut...09:56
philfo1sorry to bring it up here, but has anyone tried SuSe?09:56
bruja8i used istanbul and recordmydesktop and x11....09:56
cotynot many people up for being able to help09:57
bruja8i tried suse09:57
bruja8why?09:57
cotyi cant find recordmydesktop09:57
philfo1just wondering.09:57
philfo1looking for potential alternatives09:57
intelikey<coty> so is istanbul <<< that's the one that it would take me so long to remember.09:57
bruja8i find it extremely slow09:57
bruja8suse that is09:57
cotylol09:57
cotyintelikey09:57
philfo1really, maybe I won't then.09:57
intelikeyyou might try it.09:58
cotyall i had to do was put in record09:58
cotyin the adept09:58
philfo1because I'm dealing with extremely slow right now09:58
cotyi can see why it would be hard to remeber09:58
smilephilfo1: i tried Suse09:58
bruja8the installation of about 4G takes up too 2hours09:58
bruja8sometimes more09:58
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smilephilfo1: perfect .. i liked it09:59
_4strOcoty: have you the multiverse repo active ?09:59
bruja8besides, i believe that ubuntu is more stable that suse, but ofcourse, it is only what i  think09:59
smilephilfo1: Suse 10 (7 CDs)09:59
philfo1smile: that's a large footprint.09:59
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intelikey_4strO answering for him.  yes we did that yestergo.09:59
smilephilfo1: Mandriva too is perfect09:59
coty_4str0: what09:59
compsdoes any1 know how to run mp3 files in kubuntu09:59
_4strOintelikey: ^^10:00
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intelikey!mp3 > comps10:00
pollyoBBL10:00
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bruja8mandriva has a prob with firmwares, it reminds me of windows wen you  have to find drivers one by on10:00
smilephilfo1: i use Linux since 2 years .. tried 6 distributions10:00
philfo1since i'm a Linux n00b, are my problems just going to follow me?10:00
_4strO!mp3 > _4strO10:01
bruja8from my experience, there is alwaysproblems philfo110:01
bruja8whether it is windows or linux10:01
philfo1these problems are free though.10:01
smilephilfo1: no :-D .. we were all noob .. by the time u will be excellent ;-)10:01
philfo1I had to pay windows & symantec for my last set of problems10:02
intelikeybruja8 Q. what do linux users do ?10:02
compshow to install wine in ncomputer with kubuntu10:02
intelikeybruja8 A. they install software.10:02
smilebruja8: no system is flawless10:02
philfo1ha ha ha ha ha ha10:02
bruja8hehehehe10:02
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smilephilfo1: pay ? hhhhhhhhhh   .... linux is absolutly FREE & OPEN10:02
bruja8what i like about linux tho is that you can solve your problem, in windows the error message won't tell yo what the prob is10:03
philfo1there's a few mechanical systems out there that have some amazing reliability...  speaking of no flawless systems.10:03
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smilelinux community is beeing bigger more & more every day10:03
bruja8i like linux for the community,10:04
philfo1yeah, I have done more in the last 5 days with my computer than in the prior two years.10:04
intelikeybruja8 hmmm i never got that far.  the "EULA" stopped me from using M$ crap.10:04
cotyintelikey: how do i use instanbul10:04
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philfo1well, with windows, I did do a bunch of re-installs.10:04
bruja8heehee10:04
intelikeyoh shoot late again.10:04
bruja8same here philfo110:04
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philfo1so here's my deal:  my computer is SUPER SLOW right now.10:05
bruja8to be honest, most of my probs with linux are created by me, but on ly most of them10:05
smileLinux has just problems of compatibility .. but with small configuration it can work fine10:05
philfo1too slow for me to work, which I have to do though.10:05
philfo1I use it mostly for heavy duty graphics processing.10:05
philfo1no 3d, but very large photo files.10:06
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philfo11GB TIFF is definitely not unheard of in my applications10:06
smilephilfo1: try to find out the real reason ..then we will see .. if u cant .. just install another linux (try SuSE 10) and get started with LINUX WOLRD10:06
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bruja8and that's under windows or linux philfo110:07
philfo1linux.10:07
philfo1windows could not allocate enough memory to even use the file10:07
bruja8wow!!!10:07
bruja8what is the size of you swap?10:08
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bruja8what is the size of you swap? philfo110:09
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philfo1last time I "shut down" windows I was doing a 6cm x 12cm color slide scan at 4800dpi, 16pass, 16bit depth10:09
philfo13gb10:09
philfo1nobody on here can figure out why my machine is running so slow.10:09
philfo1takes 22 seconds to open konsole10:09
philfo1it's horrible.10:09
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philfo1I need to get it fixed so I can deliver my product.10:10
AZNSLDHey is anyone good with MySQL?10:10
bruja8did you try to do an fresh install? philfo110:10
philfo1unfortunately, had I been using my old windows system  (which is gone) I would be sleeping in bed now10:10
AZNSLDI could use some help10:10
philfo1I can, but really don't feel like it.10:10
philfo1but I can.10:10
philfo1sigh.10:10
AZNSLDlinux MySQL?10:11
philfo1I've got a spare 80gb drive ready to go10:11
Black_CatAZNSLD: wouldn't mind more details.10:11
AZNSLDumm10:11
smileAZNSLD: welcome10:11
AZNSLDWhere do I enter the password for MySQL10:11
AZNSLDlol10:11
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AZNSLDit is asking me for one10:11
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AZNSLDbut how do u enter it10:11
bruja8good luck with it philfo1, google which distro tends to be the fastest , and see if you can install that10:12
philfo1gotcha.10:12
AZNSLDroot@Jeremy:/home/jeremy# mysql -u root10:12
AZNSLDERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)10:12
AZNSLDwhere do I enter the password...10:12
Black_Catwhat's the fastest way to change the layout switcher from default altshift to ctrlshift?10:12
smiledid u see10:13
smileLeon n 110:13
smileThme: Prparation des leons et des contrles continus10:13
smileFormateur: Mr. ********** Abdesslem (Conseiller pdagogique)10:13
smileDate: 14/10/2006  9h  CREFOC Gafsa10:13
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smilesorry .. that's nonsense10:13
smileAZNSLD: did u see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP ?10:14
AZNSLDso could anyone answer my question..10:14
AZNSLDyeah10:14
AZNSLDI am just asking how I enter my password for mysql..10:14
AZNSLDlol10:14
AZNSLDn/m10:14
AZNSLDREADING IS t3k!10:14
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smileAZNSLD: see "set root password " section10:15
ffffuhi anyone knows how to use raid (2 harddisk mirroring each other) to boot up?10:16
ffffuor anyone knows any link to helpful sites10:16
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Black_Catffffu: didn't google help?10:18
bruja8smile, alors tu parles le francais!!!10:18
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smilebruja8: w :-)10:19
bruja8et apparament tu es de le maghreb10:19
smilebruja8: oui , je suis Arabe10:19
philfo1ffffu: I have a link for you re: RAID10:19
bruja8tu parles l'araba alors n'estpas10:19
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smilebruja8: kel kestion ???10:20
bruja8!!!!:P10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:20
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philfo1ffffu: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html10:20
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bruja8parceque ana tani netkelm 3arbia10:20
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bruja8;)10:21
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smilebruja8: wow .. super ... enfin un ARABE avec moi :-)10:21
bruja8hehehe10:21
smilebruja8: tu es d'o ?10:21
bruja8je suis de  l'algerie10:21
bruja8et toi?10:22
smilebruja8: enchant .. chui Tunisien10:22
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bruja8enchante!10:22
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smilebruja8: tu a problem dan Linux ?10:22
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Hirvinen!fr10:22
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:22
philfo1smile: where did you get the figures from for the sizes of those partitions?10:23
bruja8broadcom wireless ne travail pas10:23
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morghanphoenixAnyone know what an fstab line for an ipod should look like?10:23
smilephilfo1: from a book .. that's the most suitable partition ... i used it with 6 partition and worked fine10:23
smilebruja8: dzol .. j pa essay le sans fil :-(10:24
morghanphoenixDon't know the file system type or options that should go into that line10:24
bruja8mais c'est parceque kernel a son driver, mais le firmware est incompatible10:24
philfo1will it work for me even if i'm picking up a 700mb film scan?10:24
smilemorghanphoenix: type "man mount" and read10:25
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crustyhello! my kubuntu do not let me change the wright to write in to the usb external drive...any help?10:25
bruja8je suis entrain de telecharger dapper parceque the kernel de dapper n'a pas bcm43xx10:25
smilephilfo1: 700mb film scan ? what do u mean ?10:25
bruja8alors je pourai installer ndiswrapper10:25
morghanphoenixBeen there, done that, tried auto and defaults, says bad file system type when I try to mount it.10:25
philfo1I am a photographer and I have been known to use TIFFs up to 500mb.  700 is now within my reach if LINUX ever operates properly10:26
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philfo1I have squeezed 1GB out of my scanner before.10:27
ninHerhi all10:27
smilephilfo1: ?? no idea .. sorry10:27
philfo1mostly bit-depth info.10:27
bruja8hi ninHer10:27
philfo1what would be the problem with making the swap larger?10:27
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smilephilfo1: when ur memory becomes full .. linux use the swap spaces10:28
smilephilfo1: so it seems like a second memory ;-)10:28
philfo1I know.  but would there be any penalty to ahveing a larger swap partition?10:28
smilephilfo1: 700mb will be fine10:28
_4strOphilfo1: nop10:28
bruja8no not all philfo110:28
smilephilfo1: NO10:28
philfo1ok10:28
_4strOjust waste space10:28
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philfo1configuring that other disk now.10:29
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_JohnyHello. Does anyone of you is capable of Using mplayer correctly?10:29
bruja8yes10:30
smile_Johny: what's wrong ?10:30
_4strOthought that swap should be double of RAM space, isnt it ?10:30
AZNSLD!apache10:30
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:30
AZNSLD!apache210:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:30
morghanphoenixHmm, didn't expect that one from a kubuntu room, a rtfm type response and no help10:30
smile!apache10:30
_JohnyHello everybody. What can I do to define a directory which the subtitles for a movie will be loaded from, all the time? This time, I have to browse that dir everytime I open a movie.10:30
tarelerulzI have emachine eView 17f3 and I can't find the HorizSync and VertRefresh10:30
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_4strO_Johny: just put your subtitle in the same dir as your movie10:31
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_4strOand use tthe same name as your movie except the file extension10:32
_Johnycan it be in a folder? or just a naked file?10:32
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_4strO_Johny: it always in a dir :p10:32
_4strO_Johny: it always in a folder* :p10:33
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_Johny_4strO: Yea -:) I meant, to put it in a separate folder or just in the movie dir?10:33
_4strOjust in the movie dir10:33
_Johny_4strO: Ok. Thank you10:34
chode_4strO, in the same folder as movie.. so sub dir.. most players will automatically load the sub10:34
chode*no sub dir10:34
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_4strOchode: thats waht i try to say :p10:34
Black_Catnow i can say for sure, kubuntu roxx. absolutely no serious problems, unlike mandriva for example... thanx to all kubuntu team members if any of them here :)10:34
_4strOheuuu Mark are you there ?10:35
_4strO^^10:35
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smilebruja8: comment tu a connu ke chui magrbien :-)10:40
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bruja8abdessalam10:41
bruja8:P10:41
smilebruja8: comment tu a dout ke chui magrbien ?10:41
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bruja8en general les maghribens utilisent les noms avec (abd)10:42
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smilebruja8: non .. tu m'a di ke je suis de magreb.. comment tu a connu a ?10:42
chodeu guys morrocans?10:43
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bruja8et en plus tu parles le francais et ton nom10:43
chode*Moroccan10:43
crusty__hello! i have 255 hard drive shared between windows and kubuntu edgy 6.10....but kubuntu do not let me write on it!!!any help?10:43
smilecrusty__: try " chmod 777 ... "10:44
smilebruja8: mon nom ??10:44
crusty__done it....no change10:44
cotyhey can someone tell me why i cant use my second drive10:44
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_4strOand check your samba conf file10:44
Black_Catcrusty__: filesystem? NTFS?10:44
smilechode: no morrocans .. tunisian :-)10:44
crusty__yes10:44
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cotyim trying t download something but i cant download it to my second drive10:44
Black_Catntfs is read-only afaik10:44
smilecrusty__: with sudo ?10:45
chodecrusty, ntfs-3g10:45
bruja8oubien abdeslem10:45
crusty__still the same10:45
cotyi cant even mount my second drive10:45
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_4strOcoty:10:45
_4strOoups sorry10:45
crusty__iv tried all......no way to write on it10:45
bruja8je suis pas sure que ca c'est ton vrai nom10:45
smilecrusty__: if u have ntfs .. dont try .. it's read-only10:46
cotycan some tell me how to fix this problem10:46
smilecrusty__: i think .. i had the same problem with Mandriva last year10:46
crusty__the problen is that i can format it on fat.....is to big!10:46
chodesmile, ntfs-3g allows read/write10:46
cotyI need this drive10:46
smilecrusty__: try this under Windows ..with Partition magic10:47
smilecoty: really ??10:47
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Black_Catcrusty__: when saying "shared" you mean on one PC or different ones?10:47
cotyyes10:47
crusty__yes ! thats the idea.......10:47
cotysmile: it will not work10:47
cotycoty: i want to use my slave drive10:47
_4strOcrusty__: u can format it with linux10:47
smilecoty: u mean we can write on a ntfs partition ?10:47
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cotysmile: i dont know10:48
smilecoty: i think no .. i tried and it didnt work .. just read10:48
chodesmile, yes i have an ntfs drive as well shared between windows and ubuntu i can write to it10:48
cotysmile: no i have a second drive10:48
cotysmile: it is fat10:49
cotysmile: i think anyway10:49
nodeserti installed the glut-doc but i dont know where it is (i suppose it must be in /usr/share/doc10:49
AZNSLD_!apache10:49
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:49
smilechode: i tried with RedHAT .. just read .. maybe now they made a driver to NTFS10:49
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crusty__there is a program for kubuntu as partition magic that i can install10:50
chodentfs-3g was experimental untill recently.. but as from early this month or last month.. they released a stable version10:50
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_4strOcrusty__: qparted10:50
chodethey claim it's stable and no risk writing on it10:50
crusty__ok ill try it10:50
chodecrusty__, qtparted10:51
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_4strOoups i forgot the T10:51
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chodecrusty__, also if u want files moved between ur widnows n kubuntu.. u can get files on ext3 files systems using a very small free program called explorefs.. under windows10:52
chodei dun think fat32 fits as a storage now.. since it won;t allow u to store a single file if the size exeeds 4 GB10:53
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crusty__ok...can i format end partition the drive with qtparted?10:53
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chodeso if i want to use it as a storage stick with something that supports big file sizes10:53
chodesince even a backup image of a dvd will also exeed 4 gb most of the time10:53
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chodecrusty__, it's explore2fs..10:54
crusty__the situation is this...iv got windows and kubuntu on the same pc and 255gb usb hard drivewindows is ok kubuntu only read10:54
chodecrusty__, hang on a sec10:54
chodei'll link u10:54
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smilecrusty__: i think u can format with "disks-admin"10:56
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chodecrusty__, i'll give u a detailed how-to install ntfs-3g... it will allow u write on it.. and also if it;s removable it'll auto detect once u plug in the drive and create an icon on the desktop10:56
crusty__ok!10:57
morghanphoenixToday is a day for the history books! rtfm from kubuntu, help in a channel that usually says that10:57
morghanphoenixG'night10:57
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chodecrusty__, u have edgy ??10:59
chodehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009      follow this guide11:00
chodeuse the automatic method..11:00
Black_Catwhat's the fastest way to change the layout switcher from default altshift to ctrlshift?11:00
crusty__iv tried with disk and file sistem administration...but no changes...yes iv got kubuntu edgy11:01
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chodecrusty__, follow that link i gave u11:02
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crusty__ok thanks ill try.......many thenks to all!11:02
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AZNSLD!apache11:08
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ffffuhi, is there a bug using grub between ata harddisk?????????????? i keep getting file not found11:11
ffffuany experts care to help?11:11
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posingaspopularffffu, i think so, but if there is, i duno11:15
posingaspopular!ata11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
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ffffui keep getting the File not found when booting up..but all my vmlinux and init files are there and correct hd(0,0)11:19
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posingaspopular:/ i know ive seen fixes and similar issues, but im blank11:19
posingaspopularsory11:19
ffffusorry but could u give me some links or reference?11:20
ffffuor what should i search in google11:20
posingaspopularjust google the general problem11:20
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posingaspopulargoogle.com/linux i should say11:20
posingaspopularor the ubuntuforums11:21
pollyoAnyone familiar with lirc?11:21
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ffffuhd(0,0) means the first harddisk first partition? and hd(0,1) means first harfddisk 2nd partition?11:23
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J-_is there anyway to install kubuntu with a base install via, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.. or something else rather...?11:39
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posingaspopularJ-_, you want kde or kubuntu11:40
posingaspopularkubuntu is ubuntu,just cames with different stuff out the box11:40
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J-_well, I run ubuntu.. I just want another DM.11:41
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jxn_j-_: then install kubuntu-desktop11:41
posingaspopularyup jxn_ is right11:42
smileposingaspopular: kubuntu is KDE ubuntu is Gnome11:42
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J-_will, 'sudo apt-get install kde-libs' install a base install of kubuntu, and not all the kde programs kubuntu-desktop installs?11:45
jxn_erm, no.11:45
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jxn_just install kubuntu-desktop. you can uninstall programms/packages you don't want later.11:46
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J-_that's a HUGE amount of work, I tried it before.11:47
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J-_!kubuntu-base11:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-base - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:48
jxn_then install the programs/packages you want. apt will also install the dependencies11:48
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J-_Then it won't give me the DM?11:49
J-_or will it?11:49
jxn_eg. konqueror will need some kdelibs. apt checks that.11:50
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phyerbosshey, is anyone else having issues running compiz?11:51
phyerbossI tried removing it but it refuses to budge11:51
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phyerbossyeah, I read on the forums it was easier to deal with11:52
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phyerbossbut I have no clue how to even install apps that are outside of adept11:52
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phyerboss...so, yeah. Im that new to linux^^;11:53
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phyerbossanyone here know how to get rid of compiz?11:57
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pollyoHow do you check to see if you have "universe" enabled?\11:57
_4strOpollyo: in the file /etc/apt.sources.list11:58
_4strOpollyo: in the file /etc/apt/sources.list11:58
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pollyo_4strO: Ok. Thanks.11:59
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jxn_!sources.list12:00
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:00
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phyerbosswell, going away from the compiz issue...can anyone tell me how they were able to get flash and java working in their browsers?12:02
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cotyHey i need to know how to get my web camera to work on kubuntu12:25
coty!camera12:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:26
coty!cameradrivers12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cameradrivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
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anti_popsomeone got broken progress bars in firefox on kde ?12:29
wispno12:29
jakkassbroken?12:29
jakkassno12:29
anti_popwell for example my download progress bar on firefox is broken :)12:29
jakkasshmm12:30
jakkasslet me download something then12:30
anti_popsame with xarchiver12:30
anti_popi know these are not kde apps12:30
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cotycan someone help me with getting my camera to work12:30
anti_popi have no idea what messed up my progress bars, it was a ubuntu install, then i installed kubuntu-desktop and removed all gnome stuff i could ;)12:31
jakkassno its grand anti12:31
jakkassanti what version of Kubuntu are you using12:31
anti_popfeisty12:31
jakkassI'm on feisty12:31
jakkassit's grand12:31
jakkasswell I updated from Edgy12:31
jakkasswith the repositories12:31
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anti_popi think it has to do with removal of some gnome stuff12:32
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anti_popanyway ill have a fresh installation soon12:32
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anti_popbyebye12:34
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jxn_kubuntu rulez12:39
jxn_just tested feisty beta12:39
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LIRONthat he have hebrew support keybored?12:40
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J-_what's a good tut that'll show me how to customize kubuntu?12:43
kugilluHi, could anyone help me to install beryl please?12:43
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Jucato!changethemes12:44
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu12:44
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J-_is there an equivalent to gdesklets for kubuntu?12:46
jxn_J-_: kde-look.org12:46
J-_!kdesklets12:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdesklets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:46
J-_hmm12:46
jxn_superkaramba12:46
J-_cool, thanks12:46
jxn_!superkaramba12:47
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org12:47
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kugilluI can't login with xgl session12:49
cotyhow can i get my web camera to work12:49
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space_ninjahow should I play swf files If I can't install flash?12:54
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jxn_!gnash12:56
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/12:56
J-_kubuntu is extensively faster than gnome.... seems it anyway12:56
space_ninjaok thanks12:57
space_ninjaI got one more questions, What should I do If some data chunks for a bittorrent download failed?12:58
space_ninja-s12:58
jxn_delete the corrupt file and redownload it12:58
space_ninjabut everything is almost corrupt. I can't unpack it. It's  a rar file with alot of movies in it (not porn) I get alot of errors when I try12:59
LeeJunFan!flash901:00
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash01:00
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space_ninjaI got amd6401:00
LeeJunFan!flash6401:00
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava01:00
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kugilluMy flash plugin doesn't work properly in amd6401:01
kugilluit freeze my friefox01:01
kugillubut everything is ok with firefox3201:02
NiceGuyUKthe plugin itself is 32 bit - I read somewhere about a wrapper for 32bit plugins on 64 bit systems01:02
NiceGuyUKmight take a bit of Googling unless someone here knows the details01:02
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J-_!PyQT01:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pyqt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:04
J-_!pyqt01:04
J-_hmm01:04
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J-_it says i don't have pyqt installed, what is it called in the repos?01:06
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kugillucould anyone help me to install beryl please?01:09
giantess!nvidia01:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:09
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kugilluati driver are installed ok01:10
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kugillu3d is working01:10
kugilluberyl is installed... but I can't login in xgl session01:10
jxn_!beryl01:10
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:10
kugilluoh thanx I was following that guide, I'll try that channel01:11
jxn_:)01:11
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kugilluwhen I start beryl no effect to windows01:12
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waylandbillanyone got fglrx working with 2.6.20.13-generic ?01:26
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J-_is there a differnet type of menubar type thing in SuperKaramba?01:27
chijinwaylandbill: my friend had issues with it i believe, turns out he had to use 1280x1024 instead of 1280x960. would that be the case for you?01:28
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waylandbillchijin: I can't even get the kernel driver to build.01:28
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chijinwaylandbill: there was some kind of patch for it01:30
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chijinwaylandbill: http://phoronix.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103301:30
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waylandbillchijin: excellent. I'll check it out. thx01:31
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Defaulllt:)01:48
hansenwhat is the state of feisty? It is locked for anything but bugfixes by now or are packages still being upgraded?01:48
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Jucato!schedule | hansen01:49
ubotuhansen: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases01:49
nosrednaekimI believe its in a feature freeze...01:49
LjLit's locked for anything except things that will break people's boot :P01:50
SALIA:)01:50
hansenok, so that means that packages stay whatever version they are now unless something serious is broken01:50
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hansendammit, I want ufraw 0.11 and feisty has 0.10 only :)01:51
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nosrednaekimso go break it!!!!01:52
hansenwith 0.09 and newer I can get pretty decent colors, but the highlights near clipping are still horrible. And afaics 0.11 has some new code for highlights01:52
hansenprobably not enough of a problem to call it a showstopper for a linux dist :)01:52
nosrednaekimhaha.... yeah...01:53
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nosrednaekimI guess its compile from source then...01:53
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pollyoAnyone have a mceusb remote setup on kubuntu?02:14
pollyoc vc   l,....................................\02:17
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JontyI've tried running audacity and aoss audacity, but it always says it's unable to play/record audio. How can I solve this?02:18
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ionus!ntfs02:24
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:24
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blueya2hello, have some troble with installing cinelerra, maybe sb know what the failure ist: configure: http://pastebin.ca/416724    output: http://pastebin.ca/41672902:27
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raffytaffyblueya2 : lines 24 and 32 contain bad info i think02:29
raffytaffy31 i mean02:29
blueya2but "fi" is correct02:29
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raffytaffywell another reason i can think is bcse ubuntu uses /bin/bash instead of bash02:30
raffytaffyyour solution is to run the script thru bash itself02:31
thomas_oi02:31
raffytaffyyourself*02:31
blueya2"bash configure" ?02:31
raffytaffyblahh i just woke up02:31
raffytaffyyes try that02:32
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blueya2well great, these erros are fixed02:32
raffytaffyso it worked yes?02:33
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blueya2yes :D02:33
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raffytaffyok good02:33
blueya2good to know, thanks!02:33
raffytaffy:)02:33
_JohnyDo you know a good system integrity checker?02:33
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raffytaffyfsck02:34
servicemy VNC doesn't work....i wonder why02:34
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pollyoAnyone setup irkick?02:35
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_JohnyDo you know a good system integrity checker available in Kubuntu, or from command line?02:39
ionus!write in ntfs02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about write in ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
_4strO!fsck | _Johny02:40
ubotu_Johny: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot02:40
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_Johny_4strO: Does "he" carres for packages as well?02:43
_4strO_Johny: i dont know, but i dont think so02:44
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tdnI cannot log in to KDE using KDM. /var/log/kdm.log is here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/kdm.log. Please help me, cause I have no more ideas of how to investigate this problem :(02:53
tdnThere is a lot of errors in the kdm.log, but I do not understand what they mean.02:54
tdnThis happened suddenly. I have not installed anything new on the computer except maybe the occational updates.02:55
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fuzzy_logichello03:07
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scionhello all03:16
WaxyFreshgrrr,i cant seem to figure out where i went wrong i installed ubuntu server 5.10 then installed the kubuntu desktop.but im missing alot of the main things that should come with kubuntu including adapt,i mean i could use apt-get to install each one individually butt that would take a while and im not even sure aboute everything im missing03:16
fuzzy_logicscion: hello03:17
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WaxyFreshis there some package i missed?03:17
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scionWaxyFresh: why not just download the kubuntu .iso//03:18
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fuzzy_logicare you sure u installed everything when installing Ubuntu, WaxyFresh?/03:18
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WaxyFreshscion: my laptop just b roke and am on an old computer so no dvd/cd burner03:18
scionahh03:18
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WaxyFreshfuzzy_logic: just the ubuntu server then kubuntu-desktop then i upgraded03:19
scionWaxyFresh i'd imagine you will need to apt-get the packages you need03:19
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fuzzy_logicor maybe there is a way to install the missing things from the cd.. or didn't you burn one?03:20
WaxyFreshfuzzy_logic: i have a 5.10 ubuntu cd03:20
WaxyFreshfuzzy_logic: so no03:20
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fuzzy_logicWaxyFresh: then i think you will need to apt-get the missing packages03:21
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aaroncampbell_I had asked about kopete vs gaim in here last night.  Seeps like most preferred kopete.  Does kopete keep logs of ims?03:26
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ionus!ntfs03:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:27
WaxyFreshaptitude says i have 371 broken packages,,,,will fre 471mbs.......how can i fix this?03:28
dennis_aaroncampbell_, yes you can see the history03:29
dennis_but you have to set the function on03:29
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dennis_i don't like kopete too much, i prefer gaim, but i like kde so i use kopete03:30
aaroncampbell_I didn't even see an option for it03:30
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dennis_you have to activate the plugin03:32
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michaelpohow do i export emails from evolution to thunderbird?03:32
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WaxyFreshgaim is the best in my book,it has several encyptoin plugins03:32
dennis_so settings, configure plugin and then select history03:33
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aaroncampbell_dennis...got it, I was looking in the wrong place.  However, it looks like it's already active...how can I actually see the history?03:33
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fuzzy_logicmichaelpo: did you try to start thunderbird, because it should ask by itself if you want to export the mails03:34
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dennis_just click ok, and then you have to right click someone on your list...i know its strange03:34
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dennis_then it will work03:34
odin-argwhats it mean is adept says "BREAK (install)"03:34
odin-argrather than just install03:34
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fuzzy_logichow do i disable sounds at opening and closing windows in kde?03:35
_JohnyI'm looking for something to edit ID tags in mp3 files. Anyone knows?03:35
_Johnyfuzzy_logic: System settings --> Sound--> Disable all sounds03:36
dennis_aaroncampbell_ although its already active, you have to press ok03:36
michaelpofuzzy_logic: yes... but there is no option to chose evolution format mail03:36
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dennis_it's a bug, kopete history plugin is enabled but nonfunctional03:37
aaroncampbell_dennis_: ok, I did that (even though it was active before I opened the plugins section), but I still don't see anything in the right click of any of my contacts.03:37
reagleBRKLNdoes this url crash your konq 3.5.6? http://www.virtualization.info/03:37
fuzzy_logic_Johny: thanks ill try that03:37
aaroncampbell_dennis...I had to disable, and re-enable it03:38
fuzzy_logicmichaelpo: maybe this will help? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-export-your-mails-from-evolution-to-thunderbird.html03:38
dennis_aaroncampbell_ try this,enable it, it must be unchecked and the settings applied, then reactivated.03:38
dennis_yep, just red it, its a bug03:38
michaelpofuzzy_logic: thanks...03:38
fuzzy_logicmichaelpo: no probs :)03:39
Iwonder|toowhere does apt/adept keep the files it downloads?03:39
donhackjeor que dificil es esto del kubuntu03:40
fuzzy_logicIwonter|too: i think in the tmp folder.. not sure dough :)03:40
donhacky tos el  ingles03:40
donhack:P03:40
aaroncampbell_dennis_: found another bug...03:40
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aaroncampbell_dennis_: At least for me, I can't change users from inside the history window...I have to close it, and re-open by right clicking another user03:41
ionus!nvidia03:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:42
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aaroncampbell_how can I browse a windows network, or access a windows share?03:43
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fuzzy_logichttp://www.samba.org/ :)03:43
fuzzy_logicaaroncampbell_: my last msg was for you :)03:44
aaroncampbell_really, I've used samba to share files from linux, but never to access them on windows03:44
aaroncampbell_or...rather never used it to let a linux box get windows files from a windows box03:44
dennis_bizarre03:45
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fuzzy_logicaaroncampbell_: oh, then i'm afraid i can't help you.. sorry :(03:47
prugohi03:48
prugocan anyone help me?03:48
prugoI've installed kubuntu successfully03:48
fuzzy_logicprugo: ask the question.. dont ask to ask :)03:48
prugobut when it get's to the screen where you have to insert your username and pass03:48
prugoit gets blocked03:48
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prugoand I have to restart03:48
prugothis happens with kubuntu 6.10 and ubuntu03:48
prugoany ideas?03:48
fuzzy_logicprugo: after you reboot you can log in normally?03:49
prugono03:49
user_hi03:49
prugoit crashes again03:49
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prugoand when I reboot the computer doesn't respond, I have to unplug it and lug it again03:50
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prugoplug*03:50
user_hi03:50
prugohi m803:50
prugoit's very weird03:50
prugo:S03:50
user_what's up?03:50
fuzzy_logicprugo: it seems to me you have more a hardware problem than a software problem :)03:50
fuzzy_logicuser_: hi :)03:51
prugotha'ts what I thought so03:51
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prugoso03:51
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prugothank you anyways03:51
prugo:)03:51
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prugoI'll call the shop where I bought it03:51
prugoand c what they can do03:51
prugothx03:51
valuedcustomeron kubuntu 6.10, how do i format external firewire drive so that both kubuntu and winxp can read and write?03:51
fuzzy_logicprugo: i think it's the cooler03:51
prugowhich one?03:51
prugoGPU, CPU?03:51
fuzzy_logicprugo: i would do that.. yes03:51
prugoMotherboard cooler?03:52
jpwhitinghi all, anyone know where to put feedback about https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade ?03:52
WaxyFreshwhat package is adapt in?03:52
chijinvaluedcustomer: winxp can read ext3 and ubuntu can read ntfs, so it's your choice03:52
fuzzy_logicprugo: ehh.. well.. can be any, but if your computer freezes a lot, i guess it could be the motherboard one.. or that your motherboard itself is broken03:52
fuzzy_logicprugo: but commonly it is something with the motherboard03:53
jpwhitingI got it to work, but not with adept instructions, adding ~jriddell from adept seems broken for some reason03:53
prugoI got win XP too and it doesn't happen03:53
prugoah ok03:53
prugoI'll check my MB03:53
prugoit's still in guaranty03:53
prugoso I might have it changed03:53
valuedcustomer@chijin, kubuntu won't let me delete files from ntfs and write new ones03:53
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prugowarranty*03:53
chijinvaluedcustomer: you need ntfs-3g for that03:53
prugothx fellas03:53
prugocya around03:54
prugo:)03:54
prugobye03:54
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fuzzy_logiclol03:54
chijinvaluedcustomer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G03:54
valuedcustomerchijin: thanks, i'll try it03:54
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ionus!wine03:56
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:56
BluesKajhowdy all :)03:57
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fuzzy_logicBluesKaj: hi03:58
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piovisquihey04:01
piovisquianyone here04:01
fuzzy_logicye me :)04:02
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fuzzy_logichi04:02
piovisquii need help with kubuntu04:02
fuzzy_logici'm a beginner, but maybe i can help :)04:02
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piovisquifuzzy_logic: like you see i am connected to the internet but i can not browse any site04:02
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piovisquiapt-get works and irc client too, but konqueror does not..04:02
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ionus!wine04:03
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:03
WaxyFreshaptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open for writing permission denied how do i fix this?04:03
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shinigamihi what's the program for kubuntu to watch tv from my tv card?04:03
fuzzy_logicpiovisqui: then i think your dns is not configured good04:03
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fuzzy_logicshinigami: what tv card do you have?04:04
piovisquii am at university04:04
shinigami02:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)04:04
piovisquiusing wifi04:04
sb9is it possible to install apache as user ?04:04
shinigami!tv04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
shinigami!saa713404:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about saa7134 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
sb9instead of root04:05
fuzzy_logicsb9: it's not possible to install anything without admin rights :)04:05
sb9?04:05
Chousukesb9: it is.04:05
Chousukenot through apt though :/04:05
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sb9i wnat to do it from the sources04:05
Chousukeyou need to compile and install in your home directory.04:05
piovisquifuzzy_logic: i finished download firefox and it works... konqueror is bugged04:05
shinigamiwhat apps can watch tv with my tv card?04:05
Chousukeand you can't run it on port 80 as a user.04:06
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fuzzy_logicshinigami: you can try to type this in your terminal: sudo apt-get install tvtime04:06
sb9so i have take some port above  2048 or so ?04:06
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Chousukeyou need to be root to bind to ports lower than 102504:06
fuzzy_logicit will install a program called tvtime wich looks to me like the best solution04:06
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sb9ok, i got it04:07
shinigamitvtime04:07
shinigamiok04:07
kothzAnyone else have an issue with 7.04 where adept fails on updating packages right out of the box?  Network is fine, name resolution works great...04:07
fuzzy_logicshinigami: never tried it, got the information right from the internet04:07
fuzzy_logic\04:07
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kothzhrm, come to think of it, I wasn't asked for my password when i started the tool04:09
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ErkyPardon me for intruding.  Just learning the ropes.04:12
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WaxyFreshho9w do i change permissions on E:\home\r00t\.aptitude to reead write ex?04:13
cotywhat is the command for editing sources.list04:13
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Ace2016WaxyFresh: there is a convo about permissions going on in #ubuntu now04:13
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fuzzy_logiccoty: sudo kedit sources.list :)04:15
cotythanks04:15
Jucatokedit isn't installed by default04:15
cotyfuzzy_logic: it did not work04:15
Jucatocoty: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:16
cotyok04:16
Jucatocoty, fuzzy_logic: 1) kedit isn't installed by default. 2) use kdesu when launching GUI apps w/ root privileges04:16
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cotythanks you helped me get one step  closer to having beryl04:16
Jucato:O04:17
Jucatooh no what have I done!!!!!04:17
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UltimaHey04:17
cotyjucato: what04:17
fuzzy_logicJucato: oops.. i only used kde on fedora core.. didn't know that it wasn't installed by default in kubuntu04:17
UltimaI Need to resize my NTFS partition04:17
Jucatocoty: indirectly helped someone install beryl!! :O04:17
cotyok04:18
fuzzy_logicJucato: lol!04:18
cotycan he help me04:18
UltimaBut when trying I have denied access, I also have one bad sector when resizing on QTParted04:18
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Jucatocoty: I was referring to you....04:18
fuzzy_logicJucato: what's the problem with beryl?04:18
cotyoh04:18
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Jucatofuzzy_logic: nothing. it was a futile attempt at humor04:19
UltimaIf I just select the hard-drive will it keep WIndows?04:19
odin-argcoty: u have gfx accel with your intel card now?04:19
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cotyno04:19
eagles0513875kdfj04:19
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UltimaCan someone please help04:19
UltimaIf I select Guided - use entire disk, will I Keep windows?04:20
cotyUltima: what do you need help wiht04:20
cotyultima: no04:20
Ultimacoty: I need someway to resize my partition04:20
cotyUltima: partion it04:20
Ultimacoty: Magic Partition can though its payed software04:20
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UltimaSInce WIndows is hogging all the space on new computers :(04:20
BluesKajPartition magic is dangerous and unstable ...I don't recommend it04:21
cotyultima: when your in the install menu it will have a step for partionine04:21
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UltimaHow?04:21
UltimaI'm on the new beta04:21
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eagles0513875qtparted04:21
UltimaI did04:21
cotyultima: go through the steps04:21
UltimaIt says my NTFS has a bad sector04:21
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eagles0513875run check disk in windows before doing that04:21
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UltimaI did04:21
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smilehi04:22
fuzzy_logicsmile: hi04:22
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cotyultima: i wiped out windows04:22
UltimaI really don't want WIndows though my brother needs it for the sims "sigh"04:22
cotyultima: its not in my oppion worth keeping04:22
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tuxjust break the Sims CD :D04:22
cotyultima: you can have sims04:22
Ultima2?04:22
UltimaWIll it run?04:22
cotyultima: use the win emulater for linux04:23
tuxif you try crossover04:23
UltimaDoes the win emulator emulate WoW?04:23
tuxyou can install windows applications on linux with crossover04:23
Jucato!wine04:23
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:23
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odin-argUltima, Sims 1 or 2?04:23
tuxubotu, how about crossover04:23
cotyUltima: if you dont want win then get rid of it04:23
UltimaSIms 204:23
odin-argdamn04:23
odin-argWINE can run the first one04:23
odin-arg:p04:23
fuzzy_logictux: ubotu is a bot, you can't talk to it :)04:24
UltimaCan Cedega run 2?04:24
cotyUltima; tell your bro to get a psp and get the game for it04:24
tuxd'oh04:24
UltimaExcept.....Teh PSP version isn't that good04:24
tuxor why dont you use crossover04:24
UltimaAnd We have all the expansions.04:24
UltimaHow does it work?04:24
tuxi'l check if it's compatible04:24
UltimaThe Sims 2 could run on my laptop probably04:25
tuxi know crossover supports installing WoW on linux04:25
UltimaI Know xD04:25
UltimaI Have WoW04:25
UltimaDoes it support TBC?04:25
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tuxTBC?04:25
=== odin-arg spits @ wow
eagles0513875tbc04:25
UltimaThe Burning Crusade(Expansion)04:25
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tuxdont know04:26
smilehow can i play sound file in konqueror ,just by mouse (without click) ?04:26
tuxbut you can also install unsupported software04:26
UltimaIt still runs WoW.exe04:26
tuxso i think it will work04:26
ionus!rar04:26
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:26
UltimaJust adds some more  stuff in04:26
eagles0513875lol what bout it ultima04:26
WaxyFreshaptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open  for writing permission denied and i cant figure out how to chmod it,sudo chmod 700 /home/r00t/.aptitude didint work04:26
WaxyFreshwhy do i get a line thru that?04:26
tuxi dont trust wine for running games, to slow04:26
UltimaWhat about Cedega?04:27
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Ultimamy friend has a copy04:27
eagles0513875cedega u have a yearly fee04:27
UltimaDamnz.04:27
eagles0513875ive been able to get it to work on WoW04:27
eagles0513875*wine04:27
eagles0513875download wine ultima04:27
eagles0513875its free04:27
tuxnoooooo crossover supports installing Internet Explorer in linux, who in the world wants that04:27
fuzzy_logicehh.. me?04:27
eagles0513875lol i do lol04:28
UltimaFirefox or Opera plz04:28
tdntux, web developers?04:28
odin-argff04:28
eagles0513875fuzzy download ie4linux04:28
UltimaYou can get Firefox to support Active X04:28
tdnI cannot log in to KDE using KDM. /var/log/kdm.log is here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/kdm.log. I have tried logging in to a "failsafe" session. That didn't help either.  Please help me, I have no more ideas of how to investigate this problem :(04:28
tuxhm that's anoying but true tdn04:28
UltimaThough it opens a secruity hole04:28
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tuxyou have to check if it works on IE04:28
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ZnuffHello. What's the name of the wizard that runs first time when you start kubuntu or kde04:28
Znuffthat was a question: '?' :)04:28
tuxznuff, you can find it by removing and reinstalling KDE...04:29
fuzzy_logickpersonaliser :)04:29
tuxjust kiddin04:29
ZnuffI just installed it :-)04:29
fuzzy_logiclol @ tux04:29
Znuffgreat04:29
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fuzzy_logiceagles i alrady have ie running :)04:29
Znuffuhm, what if that's missing? :-/04:30
ZnuffWas kpersonaliser included only in 6.04?!04:30
eagles0513875ok fuzzy u haveing problems with active x04:30
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eagles0513875if thats the case u have to set ur security ur security to low04:31
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Znuffat least there's kxdocker -_-04:31
fuzzy_logicZnuff: kpersonaliser is included in every kubuntu release.. you can probably install it again by typing sudo apt-get install kpersonaliser in your terminal04:31
UltimaJust wondering, Whats a good program for windows for resizing paritions that free and easy like Magic Partition04:31
Znufffuzzy_logic, funny thing: it came up empty :)04:32
fuzzy_logicUltima: don't use windows programs for that.. just burn a gparted livecd for that04:32
Znuffoh, it's kpersonaliZer :)04:32
WaxyFreshaptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open  for writing permission denied and i cant figure out how to chmod it,"sudo chmod 700 /home/r00t/.aptitude" didint work04:32
fuzzy_logicoh.. oops.. my english is not always perfect Znuff, lol04:32
Znuffactually personaliser is the right way to spell it, I think :P04:33
UltimaOK04:33
shinigami to chmod it,"sudo chmod 700 /home/r00t/.aptitude" didint04:33
shinigamiwhy does my tvtime got no sound?04:33
UltimaGonna get GParted?04:33
JucatoZnuff, fuzzy_logic: actually, kpersonalizer is not installed by default04:33
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UltimaIs it safe?04:33
WaxyFreshshinigami: ?04:33
UltimaGOnna get GParted, bye.04:34
eagles0513875E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:34
eagles0513875E: Unable to lock the list directory04:34
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eagles0513875how do i unlock it04:34
fuzzy_logicoh :) haha.. didn't know that.. i just installed all the packages, so it popped up at the first time for me04:34
FringeJacketeagles0513875 just wait, mine just did that04:34
eagles0513875lol04:34
eagles0513875ok just fyi feisty beta is what im on04:34
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fuzzy_logicshinigami: just a sec. i will investigate04:34
shinigamii'm using 02:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) what's the best apps to watch tv? i'm using tvtime04:34
FringeJacketserioiusly, if you wait it goes away04:34
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Jucato!adeptfix | eagles051387504:35
ubotueagles0513875: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:35
fuzzy_logicshinigami what sound card do you have? do you hear other sounds?04:35
shinigamiyeah i can listen to amarok04:35
fuzzy_logicshinigami what sound card do you have?04:36
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eagles0513875already tried that jucato04:36
eagles0513875no effect04:36
shinigami00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)04:36
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BluesKajeagles0513875, how was fiesty beta in terms of hardware recognition ? All your stuff working ?04:36
eagles0513875everything except my internal wifi04:37
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FringeJacketeagles0513875 it did that to me all night then this morning, about three minutes ago it let me04:37
eagles0513875what u mean fringe04:37
BluesKajare you on a LAN ?04:37
eagles0513875no wifi04:37
eagles0513875that is what makes me really mad04:37
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eagles0513875that is the only reason i upgraded to the beta04:38
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FringeJacketeagles0513875 it gave me that exact message all night no matter what I did04:38
FringeJacketwhat wifi card do you have?04:38
ionusplese help me to write in ntfs partitions04:38
eagles0513875broadcom 43xx series04:38
fuzzy_logicshinigami: i'm afraid i can't help you with this one.. sorry04:38
eagles0513875ionus download ntfs3g and let me know when its installed04:38
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BluesKajeagles0513875, was the wifi working in the previous version of Kubuntu ?04:38
eagles0513875no only pcmcia04:38
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eagles0513875i would have to do some serious programming to get it to work04:39
eagles0513875E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:39
eagles0513875E: Unable to lock the list directory04:39
FringeJacketeagles0513875 broadcom doesn't like linux, one sec, I'll see if I can look up how I fixed it04:39
eagles0513875any other ideas04:39
ionuseagles0513875  i do that but a cant run ntfs config tools from K menu04:39
ionus:(04:39
eagles0513875u have to go into the fstab and edit one thing04:39
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eagles0513875i know but i used windows drivers and ndiswrapper04:39
ionushow04:39
ionus?04:40
tigrehola04:40
fuzzy_logichi tigre04:40
ionushey plese help me04:40
eagles0513875ionus add -3g to the ntfs entry save it unmount it then remount it04:41
fuzzy_logicionus: don't ask to ask, just ask :)04:41
shinigamiok thanks04:41
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ionushow04:41
eagles0513875u using kubuntu or ubuntu04:41
eagles0513875wait04:41
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eagles0513875nm answered my own ?04:41
hansenok, stupid question, but I really can't find them: Which package has the opengl man pages?04:41
ionusam 2nd day on ubuntu04:41
ionuskubuntu04:41
eagles0513875sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:42
eagles0513875use that command04:42
Jucatokdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:42
eagles0513875or that04:42
lzzchow install new openoffice 2.2 on kubuntu edgy?04:42
ionusok04:42
eagles0513875is it open04:42
ionusyes04:42
eagles0513875ok u see where it says ntfs04:42
ionuswhere04:42
WaxyFreshhow do i uninstall aptitude?04:43
eagles0513875wait04:43
eagles0513875close that04:43
ionusno it is nvidia04:43
fuzzy_logiclzzc: just with the openoffice updater?04:43
chodeX11?? for ntfs ????????04:43
eagles0513875my mistake hold on04:43
ionusok04:43
tigre00+............004:43
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lzzcWaxyFresh: ==> "apt-get remove --purge aptitude"04:43
Znuffnow, how do you remove a panel?!04:43
eagles0513875sudo kate /etc/fstab04:43
eagles0513875use that ionus04:44
ionusyes04:44
ionusfile sistem04:44
lzzcfuzzy_logic: didn't know there was an oo updater !  where, how?04:44
eagles0513875u see ntfs04:44
FringeJacketeagles0513875 I've almost got that file tracked down for configuring broadcom wireless cards04:44
eagles0513875ty fringe04:44
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eagles0513875even if its a wiki ill take it04:44
ionus?04:44
eagles0513875do u see ntfs in the list of partitions04:44
WaxyFreshlzzc:04:44
eagles0513875in the fstab04:44
WaxyFreshlzzc: thanks04:44
ionuswait04:44
fuzzy_logici think i saw once one.. i don't use oo.. but wait ill look04:44
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eagles0513875ok04:44
FringeJacketno, this is not wiki, its ubuntu forums04:44
ionusyes i se04:45
eagles0513875ok now add this04:45
eagles0513875-3g04:45
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ionuswhere04:45
ionus?04:45
eagles0513875after ntfs04:45
ionusok04:45
ionuswait04:45
eagles0513875ok04:45
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leopartuxhi04:45
ionus? /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g  ?04:45
fuzzy_logichi leopartux04:45
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ionusyes?04:46
leopartuxhow can i change the default logout screen04:46
ionus? /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g  ?04:46
eagles0513875dont change anything else04:46
fuzzy_logiclzzc: i'm sorry.. i can't find it04:46
ionusok04:46
ionusand save04:46
ionus?04:46
eagles0513875just add the -3g to the ntfs ionius04:46
eagles0513875yes04:46
fuzzy_logicmaybe you can try typing this in your terminal: apt-get update04:46
eagles0513875then unmount that partition and then remount it04:46
fuzzy_logicthan it updates all your software, including oo04:46
ionushow to mount ?04:46
ZnuffAnyone have an idea how do you remove a panel in KDE?04:46
ZnuffI want to remove the bottom pannel04:46
ionustell me comand04:46
ionus?04:46
eagles0513875sudo mount /media/(name of partition)04:47
eagles0513875and to unmount04:47
eagles0513875sudo umount /media/(name of partition)04:47
lzzcfuzzy_logic: nope. it's not in the deb repositories yet.  it's a fresh, steaming pile of shit just pinch off over at openoffice.org04:47
ionuswait04:47
leopartuxZnuff: just right click and remove panel04:47
Znuffit's greyed out04:47
Znuffit's the basic panel :-/04:48
eagles0513875ok let me know if it worked ionus04:48
ionusgive example of partition name04:48
ionus?04:48
FringeJacketeagles0513875 I've narowed it down to three, and figuring it out from there (the wireless I'm on is being slow)04:48
leopartuxyou can kill it :)04:48
eagles0513875its ok dude take ur time04:48
eagles0513875i need to restart my x anyway fringe ill be back asap04:48
FringeJacketkk04:49
eagles0513875hda1 for ex ionus04:49
eagles0513875brb ionus04:49
ionusok04:49
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fuzzy_logiclzzc: i think its wise to wait until kubuntu starts to support it.. don't you think? it's good to install as much software as possible with the apt-get, because than when the system is updating it updates really every peace of software u have installed and you don't have to do it yourself04:49
shinigamihey which is my sound card? /dev/mixer or mixer1 ? or /dev/audio or audio1 ?04:49
FringeJacketI love that our secondary network is faster right now04:49
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fuzzy_logicshinigami: i think it is /dev/audio.. not 100% sure but i would go for that one04:50
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leopartuxhow can i change logout screen04:50
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shinigamihow do i know and how to find out04:50
ionusWARNING: Deficient FUSE kernel module detected.04:51
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lzzcfuzzy_logic: yeah, okay, whatever04:51
ionuswhat it is04:51
ionus?04:51
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kuwangerI'm having a small problem.  For some reason at startup, the X display isn't being switched to.04:51
ionusWARNING: Deficient FUSE kernel module detected. Some driver features are04:52
ionus         not available (swap file on NTFS, boot from NTFS by LILO), and04:52
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ionus         unmount is not safe unless it's made sure the ntfs-3g process04:52
ionus         naturally terminates after calling 'umount'. The safe FUSE kernel04:52
ionus         driver is included in the official Linux kernels since version04:52
ionus         2.6.20-rc1, or in the FUSE 2.6.0 or later software packages,04:52
ionus         except the faulty FUSE version 2.6.2. For more help, please04:52
ionus         have a look at /usr/share/doc/ntfs-3g/README.Debian. Thanks04:52
Jucato!pastebin | ionus04:52
ubotuionus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:52
ionuseagles0513875> no its no work04:52
FringeJacketah, hiding the join part makes this channel alot nicer04:53
ionussomeone pleasa help me to write on ntfs partitions04:53
ionus?04:54
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chodeionus, ok.. hang on... meanwhile.. restore ur fstab the way it was b404:54
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ionusi dont understand04:54
chodeionus, didn;t u change ur fstab just now??04:55
chodei'm going to show u a very easy way04:55
FringeJacketionus he's temporarily wrong04:55
ionusyes04:55
FringeJackets/wrong/gone04:55
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FringeJacketsorry, my friend said wrong while I was tying04:56
ionusi put -3g on end of the line04:56
PasNoxhi04:56
Jucato!ntfs-3g04:56
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:56
chodeionus, so restore it04:56
lzzcTip for improving ubuntu website appearance:  in firefox with adblock extension, right click and adblock all the images of the silly-insipid-smiley-shiny-happy-people.04:56
ionushow04:56
chodeand tell me.. r u using Edgy??04:56
ionus?04:56
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fuzzy_logichi PasNox04:56
ionushow to restore04:56
PasNoxi have installed festy for testing, and update to date ( last update was xorg )04:56
NSCAD_Nathanwhat's the best program for expose like functionality in KDE?04:56
PasNoxand now my nvidia driver crash the x server04:57
PasNoxwhat i can do ?04:57
chodeJucato, he's very new.. so he needs step by step help04:57
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chodeionus, just remove those "-3g" u added04:57
ionusyes i am new :)04:57
NSCAD_NathanI tried kompose, but it didn't seem so great04:57
UltimaI'm back from GParted04:57
ionusok wait04:57
chodeso it will b the way it was b4 u chaned it04:57
UltimaIt didn't work04:57
Jucatochode: I think those guides are step by step... but don't really know personally04:57
PasNoxfeisty*04:57
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ionusi do that04:57
ionus?04:57
fuzzy_logicaight.. i have to go.. bb people! good luck with ur probs04:58
UltimaAccording to GParted by partition has a bad sector04:58
PasNoxfuzzy_logic: ++04:58
UltimaIs It possible to:04:58
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Ultima1.Install Kubuntu04:58
ionus<chode> i restore it04:58
WaxyFreshwill synaptic work with kubuntu04:58
UltimaThen04:58
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Ultima2,Install TinyXP04:58
leopartuxZnuff: try to edit ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc04:58
stevethepiratehello all04:58
chodeionus, u have ubuntu or kubuntu ??04:58
Ultimastevethepirate: Hi04:58
ionuskubuntu04:58
stevethepiratewill i need anti -viurs for linux.. ever?04:58
ionus6.1004:58
chodeok edgy right?04:59
chodeok wait04:59
FringeJacketstevethepirate  hi04:59
Ultimastevethepirate: Probably not.04:59
stevethepirateahh04:59
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stevethepiratethis is now through my pc.. as opposed to cellphone!!04:59
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ionusstept by step from the begining please04:59
stevethepiratethe wonders of tunnelling, l33t hackin and irssi04:59
Ultimastevethepirate: A antivirus for Windows/Car is doors/antivirus Linux/Motorbike doesn't have Doors/Antivirus04:59
FringeJacketstevethepirate yay! I still have cellphone at home, I understand your joy04:59
stevethepiratelol05:00
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stevethepirateits painfull. . and i'm in RSA.. so its lank slow... like 4 sec delay.05:00
UltimaGUys05:00
ionus<chode> are u here?05:00
chodeionus, "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"05:00
UltimaCan I install Kubuntu then Windows?05:00
ionustype it in terminal05:01
chodeUltima, install windows first05:01
FringeJacketUltima why would you want to do that?05:01
UltimaI have WIndows05:01
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stevethepiratei have superakaramba... and it says i'm using 1900 megs of my ram.. but i don't believe it...05:01
UltimaIts just my partition is taking all and it has a bad sector05:01
hansenUltima: if you installed linux first and then windows, you will have to restore the master boot record to get access to linux again05:01
ionuschode i do that05:01
FringeJacketI have windows xp and kubuntu on mine Ultima05:01
PasNoxproblem: no nvidia driver working since 7.04beta feisty install then xorg updaet05:01
stevethepiratehow can i check?05:01
ionusnext step05:01
chodeionus, did u get a file open in kate wich has a bunch of lines?05:01
UltimaI have windows05:01
UltimaI Just can't resize my partition05:01
ionusyea05:02
UltimaSInce WIndows denies05:02
ionusyes05:02
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UltimaAnd its hogging all partition space except 7mb05:02
FringeJacketUltima have you restarted windows and let it properly shut down?05:02
UltimaI tryed GParted05:02
hansenstevethepirate: I have that too -- in Parallels Desktop on my macbook :)05:02
UltimaSame problem05:02
ionuschode  isee sources.list- kate05:02
stevethepiratelol05:02
stevethepiratehow can  i check how much free ram i have free???05:02
hansenfree ram is wasted ram...05:03
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FringeJacketUltima how much space is taken up by windows? (including games and files)05:03
chodeionus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12957/     <--------  now open this link and add what u see there in the end of the list05:03
UltimaAbout 60GB05:03
Chousukestevethepirate: top and free show some statistics05:03
stevethepiratewell.. nonetheless, id like to see how much of it is free.05:03
UltimaI Have a 130gb Hard-drive05:03
ionus http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all05:04
ionusdeb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all05:04
chodeionus,  "deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"05:04
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chodeyes those 3 lines05:04
ionus yes it is05:04
FringeJacketUltima thats whats actuallyused? not the partition size?05:04
chodeionus, done ??05:04
Ultimayes05:04
UltimaThe partition size is 131gb05:04
ionus 1  liniies deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all05:04
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UltimaAnd I Have 7mb free05:05
Ultima(partition)05:05
ionus2 linie deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all05:05
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chodeionus, "deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"05:05
chodenot with 1 2 305:05
hansenUltima: which app do you use for resizeing the partition?05:05
stevethepirateit says i have 60 megs free ram.. and 650Megs in buffers...  but that my swap is nearly empty...05:05
ionuse see this linie05:05
UltimaGParted\05:05
FringeJacketUltima you tried repartitioning from the live cd?05:05
ionus!!05:05
UltimaDIdn't work05:05
kuwangerFree ram is ram from the skies.05:05
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stevethepiratehansen: i use paragon partition manaher myself.. on hirens boot disk..05:05
WaxyFreshi only have 98 megabites left on my hd any ideas to clear up space?05:05
UltimaAccess denied from partition05:05
UltimaRemove stuff you don't use05:05
chodeionus, pvt05:05
hansenUltima: try defragmenting the windows partition first05:06
Ultimaand will just stay there05:06
UltimaI Have.05:06
UltimaI just want to use Kubuntu05:06
UltimaIt really annoys mew05:06
kuwangerWaxyFresh: Delete all your kitten images?05:06
Ultimame*05:06
stevethepirateso it it bad that i only have 60 megs free ram???05:06
FringeJacketWaxyFresh move all music and picture to cds05:06
Ultimano not really.05:06
chodeionus, check ur prvt chat window05:06
hansenPartition Manager has worked well for me in the past05:06
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WaxyFreshkuwanger: kittens?05:07
kuwangerWaxyFresh: That's what I'm calling it.05:07
ionusu have yahoo id?05:07
UltimaIs there a free Magic Partition for Windows?05:07
stevethepirateUltima: was that at me about the "no not reaaally"?05:07
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WaxyFreshim trying to remove open office.org but i keep getting unresovled dependances that wont clear up05:07
ionuschode ? do u have yahoo id05:07
ionustel me05:07
ionus?05:07
chodeionus, no05:07
ionusok05:07
hansenVista can shrink ntfs partitions non-destructively, so no need for 3rd. party tools for that05:07
WaxyFreshkuwanger: i have no music/pics05:07
UltimaI don't have VIsta05:08
kuwangerIs there any reason why the virtual console wouldn't switch at computer startup?  It isn't for me.05:08
UltimaAnd I don't feel like torrenting it just  to change partition05:08
chodeionus, ok... u have the source list still open??05:08
kuwangerWaxyFresh: That's a shame.05:08
ionushow i can sent privete msg05:08
FringeJacketWaxyFresh what is taking up all your space then05:08
ionusyes05:08
ionus?05:08
Falgormy friend needs to know what the password and username for the beta 7.04 live cd are. Anyone know?05:08
WaxyFreshive only got like 4 gigs i think,my laptop broke and am froced to use a old computer05:08
chodeionus, u don;t need to add those 1 2 305:08
ionusyes05:08
Falgorfor some reason it's not letting him pass05:08
kuwangerWaxyFresh: Well, that's life then.05:08
chodejust add what i tell u in thu netween quotes05:09
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WaxyFreshFringeJacket: should dapper+ automatix take up 4 gigs?05:09
FringeJacketWaxyFresh its a deal with it kinda situation05:09
chodeionus,  "deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"05:09
kuwangerThough I am still sort of waiting for the day that one of the fuse compression layers is used.05:09
chodeionus, "deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"05:09
FringeJacketWaxyFresh I don't know much about dapper, I started with edgy05:09
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ionusbut i have it05:09
chodeionus, "deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"05:09
FalgorMy friend needs to know what the password and username for the beta 7.04 live cd are. Anyone know? *_*05:09
chodejust those 3 lines05:09
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UltimaFalgor> There isn't one, I'm using it right now.05:10
chodeionus, there is no preceding 1, 2 , 305:10
UltimaFalgor>Tryed Ubuntu then Ubuntu05:10
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ionusok i do that05:10
eagles0513875im back05:10
eagles0513875did it work ionus05:10
eagles0513875i broke feisty lol05:10
chodeionus, now save the file and exit it05:10
ionusno05:11
FringeJacketok eagles051387505:11
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ionusok05:11
eagles0513875:(ok05:11
ionusi do that05:11
hansenUltima: did you try to defrag the hd from windows, then boot the kubuntu install CD and run GParted?05:11
eagles0513875fringe u registered05:11
FringeJackethttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 I used this05:11
chodeionus, "sudo aptitude update"05:11
WaxyFreshis there a way to get apt-get to remove something that has unresolved dependancys?05:11
eagles0513875im reinstalling edgy atm05:11
Ultimahansent: I'm using the live CD05:11
ionuswait05:11
hansenand that doesn't work?05:11
eagles0513875i have to say though its rather fast booting up and shutting down05:11
eagles0513875fringe can i still get that how to to config my wifi plz05:12
hansenUltima: maybe try this: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php05:12
FalgorUltima I shall try05:12
FringeJackethttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 I used this eagles051387505:12
UltimaI did05:12
UltimaI used it05:12
hansenbut the kubuntu live CD should be fine05:12
eagles0513875ty fringe05:12
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UltimaI would use Kubuntu but what about my games?05:12
Falgorthanks, Ultima05:12
UltimaSuch as PSU,World Of Warcraft, etc.05:12
ionusok i do that05:13
ionus?05:13
hansenUltima: you didn't be any change set some "virus protection" blah in BIOS that prevents GParted from messing with the partition table?05:13
hansens/be/by/05:13
chodeionus, it finished updating??05:13
FringeJacketeagles0513875 dont thank me til it works05:13
ionusyes05:13
stevethepirateHello!!!!!!!! IS IT A BAD thing that i've 60 megs free space?05:13
Falgoryes!05:13
chodeionus, "sudo aptitude upgrade"05:13
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Ultimahansent: How do you change it?05:13
ionusbut is one eror05:13
Ultimahansent: ...05:13
stevethepirateFalgor: how do i fix it?05:13
chodeionus, oh sorry05:13
eagles0513875ok well im going to have to email this to myself cuz im reinstalling edgy as we speak05:13
Falgordownload blender, stevethepirate05:13
ionusE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:13
chodei forgot to add ur gpg key05:14
eagles0513875so ill have to keep u informed05:14
FringeJacketeagles0513875 yeah I'm registered and identified05:14
stevethepirateFalgor: what is blender?05:14
Falgorand create high poly multires sculptings05:14
Falgorwww.blender3d.org05:14
eagles0513875!aptfix |ionus05:14
hansenUltima: reboot computer, go into BIOS setup and poke around, see what you find05:14
ubotuionus: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:14
stevethepirateog05:14
Ultimahansent: Why does it keep on saying hansent?05:14
stevethepirateFalgor: STFU.05:14
chodeionus, "wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -"05:14
hansenno idea05:14
Falgorit's open source, dude05:14
ionuskill all?05:14
ionusor no?05:14
ionuskill al 543905:14
stevethepirateFalgor: on a more serious note.. how can i tell what is using all the RAM?05:14
Falgoroh RAM05:15
dennis_hi lads, the latest dist-upgrade will remove openoffice.org-core ....what should i do, just wait it out and try again in a couple of hours?05:15
chodeionus, do u have synaptic running in ur taskbar??05:15
ionusyes05:15
Falgorstevethepirate dont ask me. I just came here to ask help for my friend. I dont even have linux ^_^;05:15
ionusadept manager/05:15
ionus?05:15
chodeionus, close it05:15
stevethepiratelo.05:15
stevethepiratethen STFU05:15
ionusok05:15
ionusi do05:15
Falgorstevethepirate be nice.05:15
chodeionus, "wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -"05:16
stevethepiratecan anyone tell me what to do???05:16
ionuskill al?05:16
chodeionus, no... type that in ur terminal05:16
chodetell me what u get05:16
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ionusok05:17
ionusi do05:17
FalgorUltima so it's Kubuntu 7.04 Beta you're using?05:17
ionusit is saved05:17
chodeionus, if it goes alright u'll get and "OK"05:17
UltimaFalgor: Yes.05:17
stevethepirateanyone here use wine for games?05:17
WaxyFreshwhat am i typeing wrong? sudo apt-get purge purge openoffice.org-base --force?05:17
enzo_Admiral_Chicago: Jucato: Hey. I'm about to boot into the newest kernel05:17
ionusyes i see ok05:17
FringeJacketstevethepirate maybe if you tried not using the language you did... but people probably just don't know05:17
ionusit is ok05:17
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Jucatoenzo_: ooh good luck! :)05:17
chodeionus, now "sudo aptitude update"05:17
WaxyFreshsudo apt-get --force sleep-eat05:17
FalgorUltima my friend just had some hdd errors, and now he cant log in05:18
ionuswait05:18
enzo_Admiral_Chicago: This is draik05:18
hansenstevethepirate: run "top" is a shell, then press F, then n, then return. Now you should see a list of processes sorted by virtual memory usage05:18
enzo_Thank you Jucato05:18
chodeionus, tell me when it finishes getting the update list05:18
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stevethepirateFringeJacket: huh? The idiot told me to install blender to see my RAM problems.. i'd rather not have that kindo of adviceeee05:18
Falgorit's the live CD, Ultima05:18
stevethepiratethanks hansen05:18
ionusdone05:18
Falgoridiot?05:18
Falgorthanks a lot ;D05:18
ionusfull pakege list05:18
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UltimaFagor: Its the live CD05:18
Falgorok05:18
Falgorwell05:18
FalgorI guess it's borked.05:19
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enzo_Admiral_Chicago: Jucato: I take it back. I'm in. I'm ok.05:19
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chodeionus, hows it going???05:19
stevethepiratehansen: only small stuff.. only  big thing is amarok .. 150 megs05:19
ionusi ned to go now i will get bak in 30 min05:19
UltimaShould I try making a extended partition with GParted?05:19
ionusok?05:19
ionussoryy05:19
UltimaWould it work?05:19
ionusitst important05:19
ionusafter 30 min05:19
ionusok?05:20
stevethepiratehow can i get wine? will "sudo apt-get install wine" work fine for the latest version?05:20
chodeionus, i might not b here later.. but u can ask any of these guys and pick up from where u left05:20
chodetell them where u stopped05:20
ionusisee done result05:20
stevethepiratehellO?05:20
chodeok ionus it finished updating with no errors???05:21
ionusyes05:21
ionusyes05:21
chodeionus, now "sudo aptitude upgrade"05:21
stevethepiratewhere can i get open arean from?05:21
enzo_Jucato: I don't get it. I can't update the video driver. It just won't accept the change.05:21
chodeionus, this will only take a few mins05:21
chodevery easy05:21
Jucatoenzo_: feisty?05:21
ionusdone05:21
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ionusdone05:22
ionusdone05:22
enzo_edgy Jucato05:22
ionuso packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.05:22
stevethepiratewhere can i get openarena from??05:22
ionuso packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.05:22
ionusno packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.05:22
chodeionus, now "sudo apt-get install ntfs-config"05:22
ionusdone05:22
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ionus0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:22
ionus0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:23
ionusplease more quikly05:23
chodeionus, ???? if u followed correctly.. it should install u ntfs-config with ntfs-3g05:23
ionusand?05:23
ionuswhere\05:23
ionus?05:23
ionusand now its work05:24
cotyanyone here experienced with installing beryl05:24
ionus?05:24
chodeionus, from what u said... it didn;t install anything.. that means u havn;t followed it thru05:24
stevethepirateANYONE: used openarena before?05:24
ionusi ned goo05:24
chodeionus, ok laters05:24
ionusthx05:24
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FringeJacketcoty how much experience you need05:24
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FringeJacketcoty, do you just need the sommand or what?05:25
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FringeJackets/sommand/command05:26
enzo_Does the new kernel like Beryl?05:26
dennisterhey ppl, hope everyone's doing well...this may seem like a total newbie questions, but how in the heck do I find and add a news server for a newsreader program like Pan?05:27
dennisterit's been so many years since i read newsgroups I've forgotten how, lol05:27
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cotyso are is there anyone experienced that can help me install beryl05:29
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stevethepiratehow do i set a proxy for my konsole?05:29
stevethepiratecoty: i'm also looking to install berly at some stage..05:29
cotyso there are two of us05:29
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Yorokobicoty, stevethepirate the beryl-project.org site has links to good install instructions05:30
chodecoty, beryl site has a very nice walk thru05:30
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FringeJacketcoty, do you just need the command or what?05:30
cotyi cant find it05:30
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FringeJacketstevethepirate one problem at a time05:30
cotywhat is the command05:30
slestakhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page05:31
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stevethepirateFringeJacket: okay.. just to set http proxy for konsole..?05:31
cotycan beryl work on most computers05:31
chodecoty, it's pretty easy i'm a total noob my self.. but it helped me05:31
YorokobiWhy would you need a proxy for konsole?05:31
stevethepiratefor wget05:31
stevethepirateand for apt-get ..05:32
slestakcoty: i have installed it on 3-4 computers, and it has worked for all.  some have needed aiglx while orthers were better with fglrx.  depends on what video card you have.05:32
stevethepirateslestak: for a nvidia 7600gt?05:32
cotyMy computer is 7 years old if that helps05:32
FringeJacketstevethepirate I use apt-get with no problem (not know what you meant by the http proxy comment)05:32
chodecoty, beryl site explains it all.. hardware recommendations... installation process05:33
cotychode: they dont have it for kubuntu just ubuntu05:33
stevethepirateFringeJacket: i ahave to connect through a proxy to get internet...05:33
FringeJacketstevethepirate, have you tried sudo apt-get? (yeah, like the good old fashioned is it plugged in question)05:33
stevethepirateso my apt-get also does..05:33
Yorokobicoty ubuntu and kubuntu are the same05:33
stevethepirateFringeJacket: yes05:33
slestaki dont have an nvidia machine atm.  when i did, I used gentoo and the nvidia drivers provided the composite extension.  im not sure how that works for x/k/ubuntu.05:33
chodecoty, i'm on kubuntu.. i followed that wiki05:33
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FringeJacketah, I'm not experienced with proxys05:34
cotyok05:34
Jucatocoty: ubuntu and kubuntu share the same repositories. what works for one, will work for the other (most of the time)05:34
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cotyok05:34
Yorokobicoty, one of the walk-throughs has KDE-specific instructs along with Gnome instructions05:34
eagles0513875what do i use to add feisty repositories05:34
shinigamihelp.. my kubuntu's kde clock disappeared!05:34
chodecoty, if it says gedit replace it with kate.. or nano...05:34
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cotythis is a pain05:35
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cotyim not sure which one to go with05:36
FringeJacketsorry that I can't help stevethepirate05:36
cotyon the ubuntu guide05:36
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FringeJacketshinigami more information please05:36
eagles0513875!repositories05:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:36
Jucatoshinigami: right-click on the panel -> add applet to panel -> clock ?05:36
eagles0513875!feisty05:36
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)05:36
shinigamiwell.. in the past there used to be a clock on the bottom right hand side05:36
eagles0513875!sourcecode05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourcecode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
shinigamiahh ok got it05:36
shinigamiapplet05:36
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cotychode: which part of the ubuntu guide should i go with05:37
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eagles0513875there was an ubuntu site that i was given the linked too they automatically generated the repositories for me05:37
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Jucato!source-o-matic | eagles051387505:37
ubotueagles0513875: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:37
dennistercould anyone help me with my newsreader?05:37
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eagles0513875ty jucato05:37
dennisterpls, pretty please :-)05:37
shinigamii'm using tvtime with saa7134 now.. works fine, can watch channels.. but no sound....anyone knows why?05:38
Jucato!anyone | dennister05:38
ubotudennister: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:38
Yorokobicoty, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu#Ubuntu_6.10_.28Edgy_Eft.2905:38
dennisteri did; again: how do i add a news server to a newsreader?05:39
Daisuke_Idomorning Jucato05:39
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Jucatomorning Daisuke_Ido05:39
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eagles0513875where is list of repositories stored05:39
Daisuke_Idodennister: that all depends on the newsreader, but generally it's in a section for accounts05:39
Bill_GateCan anybody help me get my wireless running?05:39
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fuzzy_logichi05:40
eagles0513875is it broadcom bill05:40
Bill_GateI am using the RT37 drivers.05:40
NiceGuyUKeagles0513875: in /etc/apt/source.list05:40
eagles0513875for a broadcom card though05:40
eagles0513875ty nice05:40
fuzzy_logicquick question.. how can u let a program automatically start at logon?05:40
Bill_GateIt's has taking me 1 month installing kubuntu and after going so far I have no network.05:40
dennisterDaisuke_Ido: well i'm using pan, and I found some free public servers, but i'm stumped from there05:40
tuxfuzzy_logic: you can put it in fstab05:40
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, during KDE startup or boot?05:40
fdoving!autorun | fuzzy_logic05:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autorun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:40
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enzo_Jucato: Where do I find xorg.conf?05:41
FringeJacketBill_Gate why did it take a month? no swap allocation?05:41
fuzzy_logicYorokobi: during kde startup05:41
tuxBill_Gate:  perhaps your name is to close to Bill Gates :p05:41
Daisuke_Idoi haven't used pan in 3 years :\05:41
NiceGuyUKenzo_: in /etc/X1105:41
fdoving!autostart | fuzzy_logic05:41
ubotufuzzy_logic: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.05:41
Yorokobifuzzy_logic, ^^05:41
Jucatoenzo_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:41
cotyim stuck05:41
fuzzy_logicthanks fdoving, will try that05:41
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enzo_Right.05:41
enzo_Thank you.05:41
tuxcoty: stuck with what05:41
Bill_GateIt's crazy..05:41
cotythe auto start05:42
Bill_GateIt took me a few hours to install MacOSX and get everything working..05:42
cotyin the tut on installing beryl05:42
tuxyou're running kubuntu?05:42
cotyyes05:42
Bill_GateLinux...crazy nothing works.05:42
tuxok05:42
tuxcoty: you installed beryl?05:42
cotyno05:42
cotytrying to05:42
cotyit is really a pain05:42
Bill_GateBut right now I need network running so I can install packages...05:42
chijini installed beryl in 5 minutes05:42
dennisteri could use the one in kontact, or a host of others I've downloaded...but there seems to be a real lack of info as to how to get started with finding the list of usenet newsgroups and how to configure them so you can subscribe to some05:42
tuhykexit05:43
cotychijin: i wish it was that easy for me05:43
tuhyk*quit05:43
Bill_Gateiwlist returns networks05:43
dennisterDaisuke_Ido: do you use any other newsreader apps?05:43
Bill_Gatebut It seems I cant associate to my network.05:43
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YorokobiBill_Gate, are you using edgy or feisty?05:43
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cotySo..anyone here up for the difficult task of helping me install beryl05:44
shinigamii'm using tvtime with saa7134 now.. works fine, can watch channels.. but no sound....anyone knows why?05:44
Bill_Gateedgy05:44
FringeJacketcoty I'll help05:44
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Bill_GateI tried feisty and it was too buggy.05:44
cotyFringejacket: cool man your the best05:44
YorokobiBill_Gate, do you have wlassistant installed?05:44
abortd_so amarok can play mp3s bu not burn them?05:44
Bill_GateYes.05:44
abortd_well k3b cant burn them?05:44
YorokobiBill_Gate, sudo wlassistant05:45
Bill_GateI have configure /etc/networks/interfaces05:45
tuxcoty: you need to make beryl-manager start automaticly?05:45
cotyok05:45
chijini don't think a 7-year-old computer can run beryl very well05:45
YorokobiBill_Gate, for DHCP or static IP/route?05:45
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Bill_Gatemy network uses WPA2 with TKIP05:45
ionusso someone pleasa help me05:45
Yorokobiah ... you'll need the wpasupplicant then05:45
ionus?05:45
Bill_GateStatic or DHCP I dont care right now.05:46
YorokobiOr knetwork-manager05:46
ionusto write in ntfs05:46
eagles0513875Yorokobi: how does 1 setup dhcp server using kubuntu05:46
ionus?05:46
Bill_Gateknetwork manager?? never..05:46
Bill_Gatethat program sucks.05:46
Daisuke_Idodennister: my only use for usenet was binaries, so BNR did me until it stiopped development - after that i kinda quit05:46
ionuseagles051387505:46
eagles0513875whats wrong ionus05:46
ionushelp me05:46
Yorokobiknetwork-manager is easier to use than wpasupplicant05:46
Yorokobieagles0513875, a DHCP server? No.05:46
ionuswrite in ntfsa05:46
eagles0513875j/w would the dhcp client work as dhcp server out of box05:47
eagles0513875ionus: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g05:47
Yorokobiclient != server05:47
dennisterDaisuke_Ido: yeah, i quit too...huge waste of time normally, but now I need to find some info05:47
eagles0513875i dunno it could happen05:47
eagles0513875ionus: let me know when u have ntfs3g installed05:47
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Bill_GateI am willing to do anything!!!05:47
Bill_GateI will even suck your XXXX05:47
Bill_GateJust need to get it working.05:48
Bill_GateLOL05:48
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eagles0513875Yorokobi: reason i ask is im working on setting up a cluster and the master node has the os and all the slave nodes will do a diskless boot from master node using pxe05:48
YorokobiYeah ... not very funny05:48
cotyBill_Gates: not funny05:48
fdoving!language | bill_gate05:48
ubotubill_gate: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:48
Bill_GateTHat's from ROME TV SERIES05:48
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cotyBill_Gates: i dont like gay people so please dont say that stuff05:48
YorokobiHBO is rarely worth watching IMHO05:48
ionuswrite in ntfs05:49
ionuspartitions05:49
ionushow i can to write in ntfs05:49
ionus?05:49
dennisterfdoving: ty...you wouldn't happen to use newsreaders, do you?05:49
eagles0513875did what i say make sense to ya Yorokobi05:49
Bill_Gatejust showing my desperation..05:49
fdovingeagles0513875: get dhcp3-server05:49
Yorokobibut anyway, Bill_Gate, knetworkmanager would be your best bet05:49
Bill_Gateman how do they expect regular people to use linux??05:49
Yorokobieagles0513875, sort of. I've never used PXE05:49
cotyBill_Gates ; they dont05:49
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Bill_GateYorokobi: I am downloading it now..05:49
cotyBill_Gates: they expect nerds to know05:49
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dennisterionus: you were told to install a program, have you done this yet?05:50
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Bill_GateYorokobi: didnt work with feisty.05:50
cotyi feel that were all nerds here05:50
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eagles0513875Yorokobi: with thsi cluster we have  the master node which has 2 nics05:50
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FringeJacketBill_Gate you turn nerd quickly05:50
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eagles0513875one connecting to the internet and another to internal one05:50
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ionussoo how i can to write in ntfs formats05:50
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ionussoo how i can to write in ntfs formats05:50
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ionuseagles051387505:50
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eagles0513875ionus: sudo kate /etc/fstab05:50
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dennisterionus: have u installed the program yet?05:50
Bill_GateKnetwork Manager supports WPA2??05:50
cotybeing a nerd is the best05:51
eagles0513875before that also make sure ur ntfs partition is mounted05:51
YorokobiBill_Gate, it doesn't work any better in edgy but it saves a load of headache trying to get wpasupplicant working05:51
cotyIt really shows you how stupid people are05:51
ionusyes is mountes05:51
piovisquiBill_Gate: use wpa_supplicant05:51
Yorokobiand yes, knetworkmanager supports wpa205:51
ionusmonted05:51
cotylike when you ask what type of computer they have they say xp05:51
eagles0513875ok05:51
eagles0513875now05:51
eagles0513875ionus: sudo kate /etc/fstab05:51
Bill_Gatepiovisqui: i tried..its not connecting to my network.05:51
ionusok05:52
YorokobiBill_Gate, does your wifi router use MAC address filtering, by chance?05:52
ionusdone05:52
Bill_GateYorokobi: no05:52
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ionusisee fstab-kate05:52
fdovingdennister: hi. not regularily. knode is probably nice.05:52
stevethepirateionus:05:52
ionus?05:52
coty!jewbuntu05:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jewbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:52
stevethepiratejust get ntfs-3g05:52
piovisquiBill_Gate: you need to configure /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf with you  net authentication methods05:52
piovisquiyour*05:53
ionusok05:53
Jucato!kdesu | eagles051387505:53
ionuswait05:53
ubotueagles0513875: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:53
eagles0513875is that already installed ionus05:53
coty!info jewbuntu05:53
Bill_Gatepiovisqui: dude.. I have done it. still dont work.05:53
ubotuPackage jewbuntu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:53
YorokobiThere is no jewbuntu, coty05:53
Jucatocoty: there is no jewbuntu05:53
stevethepiratethen add your other partition as a decive on /etc/fstab05:53
eagles0513875ty Jucato05:53
eagles0513875not add it steve05:53
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cotysomeone said there was05:53
eagles0513875if its mounted it will already show up in there05:53
stevethepiratethen mk a mount directort.05:53
cotyi was wondering if it was true05:53
ionusput -3g on the end line after ntsf05:53
Bill_Gateit just driving me crazy.05:53
ionusput -3g on the end line after ntsf05:53
eagles0513875all he has to do is add the -3g05:53
piovisquiBill_Gate: sorry, i do not know more...05:53
Jucatocoty: not in the repositories05:53
Bill_GateI can see the networks and everything.05:53
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Yorokobicoty, it is not true05:53
Bill_Gatejust cant connect.05:53
cotyok05:53
stevethepiratethen mount -a05:53
cotyi did not think so05:53
stevethepirateor sudo mount -a05:53
ionusall or only with ntfs05:53
ionusall or only with ntfs05:53
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eagles0513875just mount all05:54
stevethepiratethat is for ntfs05:54
shinigamihelp, how do i see which device is using this module saa7134-alsa ? i need to modprobe -r saa7134-alsa but it says somethig is using it05:54
eagles0513875ok dont listen to me ionus05:54
stevethepiratei just  did that last night.,. works fine05:54
Bill_GateOh my god..05:54
ionussteve.. ok05:54
ionussave it05:54
Bill_GateI have to download all the packages again.. and I dont have network.05:54
ionus?05:54
Bill_GateLOL05:54
ionussave it?05:54
stevethepiratehuh?05:54
ionuswhot05:54
ionuswhat05:55
YorokobiBill_Gate, download because they're not installed or download to reconfigure?05:55
ionus??05:55
ionusi am new in kubuntu /linux05:55
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Bill_Gatedownload cause they are not installed.05:55
stevethepirateokay05:56
ionus?05:56
Bill_Gatehttp://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/kde/knetworkmanager05:56
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YorokobiBill_Gate, you could try the install CD as a source ... not as complete (by a long shot) as the online repos but ...05:56
Bill_Gateyes that's what I have set it to..05:56
YorokobiBill_Gate, substitute edgy for dapper if your using edgy05:56
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stevethepirateionus: pm05:56
ionushow i can send private msg05:56
Bill_Gateit's ironic. My NIC is blacklisted. else kernel crash05:57
ionushow i can send private msg05:57
stevethepirateoh05:57
Bill_Gatemy wifi aint working.05:57
stevethepirateno worries.05:57
stevethepirateokay05:57
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Bill_GateMy network is right now a USB pen drive.05:57
tuxhow do i make a program (beryl in my case) autostart05:57
stevethepiratein konsole... type "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"05:57
Yorokobi!autostart | tux05:57
ubotutux: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.05:57
ionussave that05:57
ionus?05:57
ionuskate05:57
ionus?05:57
stevethepirate"save that" ?05:57
stevethepiratewhat does that mean?05:58
ionussave ftab-kate05:58
ionus?05:58
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stevethepiratewhat are you smoking?05:58
ionusi put -3g on ntfs in fstab-kate05:58
shinigamione question about modprobe .. if i modprobe xxx in this session and reboot, will xxx be loaded automatically?05:58
ionus?05:58
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stevethepirateno05:58
stevethepiratewait05:58
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stevethepiratehave you downloaded ntfs-3g yet?05:58
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ionusmebe05:59
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stevethepirategod.05:59
ionusyes but it no work05:59
YorokobiI feel your pain, stevethepirate05:59
stevethepirateokay05:59
eagles0513875not yet it wont work ionus05:59
eagles0513875ionus where ya from05:59
rmallahhow to list supported xtensions of a running Xserver05:59
ionusi pres on ntfs cfg tools but no open05:59
stevethepiratethats what i'm trying to help yo do..05:59
stevethepirateno05:59
stevethepirateSTFU for a sec.05:59
stevethepirateokaty05:59
eagles0513875fringe u still there06:00
ionuswhot06:00
stevethepirateionus : "sudo nano /etc/fstab"06:00
ionusok06:00
stevethepiratewhats your harddrive number?06:00
stevethepiratei mean device address?06:00
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stevethepiratelike /dev/hda1 ?06:00
ionusdev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 ntfs fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,user 0 006:00
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ionusdev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,user 0 006:00
kuwangerWell, that's a shame.06:00
ionusi have 2 partitions06:01
ionusin ntfs06:01
stevethepirateyes06:01
stevethepiratewell done06:01
stevethepirateokay06:01
kuwangerWhat boot logs are available in kubuntu?06:01
stevethepiratethat this06:01
stevethepirate* remove that line06:01
Yorokobikuwanger, dmesg06:01
Yorokobiits a command06:01
kuwangerBeyond dmesg.06:01
eagles0513875Yorokobi: how can i extract files from an exe06:01
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Yorokobikuwanger, /var/log/syslog and/or /var/log/messages06:01
Yorokobieagles0513875, cabextract is probably your best bet06:02
ionusall line with ntsf06:02
Yorokobior unzip ??06:02
ionuswith ntfs06:02
ionus?06:02
ionusyes?06:02
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Yorokobieagles0513875, depends on what was used to compress it06:02
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eagles0513875its an exe for a wifi driver06:02
tuxdoes making a link to a file in ~/.kde/autostart work for making a program load at startup?06:02
stevethepirateadd this line "/dev/hdb5   /mnt/drive1    ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=en.US.utf8     0     0"06:02
kuwangerWell, that's odd.  "kdm_greet[4103] : Internal error: memory corruption detected"06:03
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ionuswhere06:03
ionus?06:03
Yorokobikuwanger, I get that all the time06:03
eagles0513875mine is broadcom06:03
stevethepiratein /etc/fstab06:03
stevethepirateget rid of that other line..06:03
stevethepirateactually .. both of those other lines06:03
kuwangerYorokobi: Do you ever have a problem where when you boot, the VC isn't switch to 7 automatically?06:03
Yorokobikuwanger, nope06:03
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ionus ii remove /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 ntfs-3g fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,user 0 0       an d pt your line06:04
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stevethepirateyes06:04
ionusi remove /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 ntfs-3g fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,user 0 006:04
ionusok06:04
stevethepirateget rid of that line06:04
stevethepirateyes get rid of that too06:05
kuwangerYorokobi: Any ideas on what might be causing it?  It also seems the case that until I switch, kdm doesn't start to load.06:05
ionusit?  /dev/hdb5   /mnt/drive1    ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=en.US.utf8     0     006:05
stevethepirateyes06:05
ionusok06:05
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stevethepiratethats what to add06:05
stevethepiratedone?06:05
Yorokobikuwanger, what happens when you run /etc/init,d/kdm (as root or sudo) ?06:05
ionusand now?06:05
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stevethepiratenow save fstab and leave nano06:05
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stevethepiratedone?06:06
ionusbut for 2nd partitions06:06
ionus?06:06
ionusa have 206:06
ionus?06:06
stevethepiratewell get to that now06:06
stevethepirateone at a time...06:06
ionusok06:06
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ionusi close and save06:06
ionus?06:06
stevethepirateyes06:06
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stevethepirateclose and save06:06
ionusok06:06
ionusdone!!06:06
stevethepiratenow "sudo mkdir /mnt/drive1"06:06
kuwangerYorokobi: Um...I don't mean that kdm doesn't run.  I mean that kdm doesn't seem to load.  Ie, it takes as much time to display the greeter if I wait 5 seconds or 1 minute to switch to VC7.06:06
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stevethepiratethis makes the 'folder' that linux will think is just   another normal linux folder06:07
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snook353where are the superkaramba theme files stored?06:07
ionusudo mkdir /mnt/drive106:07
ionus?06:07
stevethepiratedone tha06:07
stevethepiratefvdv06:07
Yorokobikuwanger, oh ... I think your issue is outside of my experience06:07
phyerbossHey, guys...I posted this earlier but still no answer to it yet06:07
phyerbosscan anyone tell me how they were able to get flash and java working in their browsers?06:07
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ionusok i do06:07
kuwangerYorokobi: I see.06:07
stevethepiratedsfcsacasacaacdwdwdwdvsdvsdvsdvsdv06:07
stevethepiratesdv06:07
stevethepiratesdv06:07
stevethepiratesdv06:07
stevethepiratev06:08
stevethepiratedvs06:08
ionusdone!!06:08
stevethepiratev06:08
stevethepirateds06:08
Bill_GateI cant compile knetwork manager..06:08
Bill_Gatedamn..06:08
stevethepiratesd06:08
ionushey06:08
Bill_GateHow do people deal with all this crap??06:08
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phyerboss...i guess it somehow gets done06:08
Bill_Gatelinux will never be a mainstream OS.06:09
ionushey someone help me fron end tp finish06:09
phyerbossnot being smart but seriously, when i 1st learnt windows, it was like this06:09
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eagles0513875maybe not for u bill06:09
phyerbossso its not hard06:09
ionusi am nnew06:09
phyerbossjust diffrent06:09
phoenixbyrdwth o.0 ... linux is mainstream06:09
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ionussteve?06:09
phyerbossand if you had the patience to learn mac or windows at 1 point, you can learn linux06:09
ionusare u here06:09
ionus>06:09
stevethepirateionus: still ther? my irssi crashed..06:09
ionus?06:09
stevethepirateypu06:09
stevethepirate*yup.06:10
ionusok06:10
stevethepiratejust got bacj06:10
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ionusai do that06:10
stevethepirateokay06:10
Bill_Gatedude. I have worked with computers for over 10 years.06:10
wolferinewhat apps are used to check/repair filesystems?06:10
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Bill_Gatesco, solaris, sun os, etc06:10
phyerbosssame here06:10
stevethepiratehave you "sudo mkdir /mnt/drive1" yet?06:10
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ionusyes06:10
stevethepirateokay06:10
Bill_GateI started with HPUnix.06:10
stevethepiratenow06:10
stevethepirate"sudo mount -a"06:10
ionusok06:10
ionusbut with warning06:10
stevethepiratenow cd /mnt/drive106:10
stevethepiratewhat's teh warning?06:11
phyerbossgood stuff...makes you waaay ahead of me^^...but seriously, if you took the time to learn those beast, i cant see how you'll let this beat you06:11
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Bill_Gatebut it's very different with all the unsupported hardware.06:11
ionusbut with warning06:11
ionusWARNING: Couldn't set locale to 'en.US.utf8' thus some file names may not06:11
ionus         be correct or visible. Please see the potential solution at06:11
ionus         http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#locale06:11
YorokobiSCO, Solaris, SunOS, HPUX ... all have one thing in common: proprietary hardware that their respective OS was written to work with06:11
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ionusand somethink else06:11
stevethepiratetry "cd /mnt/drive1"06:11
phoenixbyrdwhat unsupported hardware?06:11
ionusok06:11
stevethepiratels06:11
stevethepirate"ls06:11
stevethepirate"ls"06:11
Bill_GateYorokobi: that's right.06:11
stevethepiratewhat happens?06:11
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Bill_GateI am using a cheap ass laptop and nothing.06:12
ionusok06:12
ionusand now06:12
ionus?06:12
stevethepiratewhat is visible?06:12
YorokobiBill_Gate, how old or new is the laptop?06:12
Bill_Gatebut MacOSX and Vista works perfectly.06:12
ionusionus@ionus-desktop:/mnt/drive1$06:12
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Bill_GateCame out this year.06:12
YorokobiBill_Gate, Vista worked with it?06:12
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stevethepiratenow type "ls"06:12
phyerbossthe 1st 1 yes...the latter one...uh, well...06:12
robert__Dell hell06:12
ionusbash: is: command not found06:12
Bill_GateNIC RT8139 crashes the kernel (kernel bug - hope they fix this soon)06:12
ionusoo u sai is or ls06:13
Bill_GateYorokobi: dual booting, VIsta Aero now problem.06:13
ionus?06:13
phoenixbyrdlinux has always worked with my pc, no need to install any drivers ...06:13
YorokobiBill_Gate, your hardware is probably too new/proprietary to work cleanly with Linux06:13
ionusoo u say is or ls06:13
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YorokobiI had the same problem with a new HP laptop06:13
YorokobiEven XP wouldn't work on it06:13
Bill_Gateif I can get MacOSX to work... I will get Linux to work...06:13
YorokobiOnly Vista06:13
robert__bash: killsonyceo: command not found06:13
phyerbossThats the spirit!;)06:14
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phyerbossheheh06:14
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robert__bash: killbillgates: command not found06:14
ionushey someone help me from end to finish step by step06:14
Bill_Gateit took me over 1 month to get it to install.. by compiling, blacklisting, etc06:14
wolferineend to finish?06:15
Bill_Gatenow that is installed I need a network to work.06:15
wolferineif (@end) { finish' }06:15
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ionusyes06:15
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stevethepiratehello06:15
ionusok06:15
robert__hello06:15
ionusi see u06:15
stevethepiratewhat happens when you "ls" ?06:15
robert__dunno06:15
ionusand now i see what is in it disk06:15
phyerboss...anyone have any advice or a walkthrough I can follow to get Flash & java working?06:16
ionusand now i see what is in it disk06:16
stevethepirateis what should be there, there?06:16
phyerbossbecause the ones in adept dont work06:16
robert__dunno06:16
ionusisee my folders and files06:16
stevethepirateokat06:16
stevethepiratetry read and write from them06:16
Jucatophyerboss: why don't they work? what version of Kubuntu are you on?06:16
stevethepiratelike make a folder..06:16
wolferineionus, why are you using linux again?06:16
phyerboss6.1006:16
phyerbossedgy06:17
Yorokobiphyerboss, download the .tar.gz for flash and install it06:17
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Jucatophyerboss: ah. flashplugin-nonfree not working?06:17
Jucatophyerboss: try enabling the edgy-backports repository and it will update to Flash 906:17
stevethepirateionus: you there?06:17
ionusi can not save06:17
Bill_Gatethe worse part is that I know the wireless module is working06:17
stevethepiratelol06:17
ionusi cant sava06:17
robert__haha06:17
stevethepirateread the wiki that it gave you..06:17
Bill_GateI just cant get it to associate with my router.06:17
ionus:((06:17
phyerbossthats another issue...see, im still new to all this and have no clue how to install things outside of adept06:17
stevethepiratethe do the same for the other partition06:18
ionuswhere06:18
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ionuswait06:18
stevethepiratethat error message that you read when "sudo mount -a" ing06:18
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stevethepiratecheers06:18
Jucatophyerboss: well, you don't really have to install Flash and Java outside adept06:18
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stevethepiratebbl06:18
enzo_Jucato: What is the command for phigh?06:18
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enzo_Jucato: I only want to change the video driver06:18
Jucatophyerboss: first of all... 32-bit or 64-bit computer?06:18
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Yorokobiphyerboss, sudo apt-get install synaptic then never go back to adept again :)06:19
ionusi can write in it06:19
phyerboss3206:19
stevethepiratethen you are god06:19
Jucato!fixres | enzo_06:19
ubotuenzo_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:19
stevethepirate*good06:19
stevethepiratethen doe the same for the other partition06:19
Jucatoenzo_: er um... :)06:19
phyerbosshahaha06:19
phyerbossadept that bad?06:19
Jucatoenzo_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:19
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Jucatophyerboss: no. it should work actually06:19
phyerbossi used synaptic when I was trying other distros06:19
wolferinewhat apps are used to check/repair filesystems?06:19
JucatoYorokobi: you should give Adept in feisty another look06:20
Jucatophyerboss: next question: did you add/enable the multiverse repository?06:20
YorokobiI am an old-school Debian user. I prefer dselect over everything else06:20
ionustell again for another partitions06:20
ionusplease06:20
Jucato!xconfig | enzo_06:21
ubotuenzo_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes06:21
Jucatoenzo_: there! got the right factoid :)06:21
phyerbosshmm...I have main restricted, universe, multiverse & backport06:21
Jucatohm.. ok.. were you able to find and install flashplugin-nonfree?  (that's the package name)06:21
ionusaaaaaaaa im sick06:22
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ionusyurii zdarova06:22
ionusgovorit ctoto po ruskii06:22
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wolferineionus have you read the ubuntu guide online?06:23
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kuwangerWell, I'm rather dumbstruck. :/06:23
ionusyes06:23
wolferineu will find everything you need in it06:23
ionusi do how there is write06:23
ionusno06:23
kuwangerNothing seems obvious in /var/log for why there isn't an automatic switch at startup.06:23
Jucatophyerboss: hm.. ok.. were you able to find and install flashplugin-nonfree?  (that's the package name)06:23
ionusi find but it no work06:23
ionusi find but it no work06:24
wolferineif its not in there, its in the webboards06:24
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kuwangerOh well.  Guess I'll ask some other day.06:24
ionusi find but it no work06:24
eagles0513875anyone use dhcp3 before06:24
ionuseagles051387506:24
ionushelp me06:24
ionus?06:24
ionusnow06:25
ionus!!06:25
eagles0513875whats wrong06:25
Jucato!pastebin | phyerboss06:25
ubotuphyerboss: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:25
ionuswrite  in ntfs06:25
ionus?06:25
ionusin cant write06:25
eagles0513875its still06:25
_4strO!ntfs | ionus06:25
ubotuionus: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:25
ionuswhat06:25
_4strO!ntfs-3g | ionus06:26
ubotuionus: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)06:26
ionusit  no worck06:26
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ionusno work06:26
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illustrissimionus: do the partitions appear in /etc/fstab?06:27
ionusand06:28
ionus?06:28
ionusi do that06:28
ionus?06:28
ionusbut no work06:28
illustrissimok06:28
Jucato!enter06:28
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:28
_4strOlol06:28
eagles0513875i dunno ionus06:28
ionusok06:28
eagles0513875ionus: what language do u speak06:28
wolferineionus, you really need to do some reading about this06:29
illustrissimin /etc/fstab, is the filesystem designated as ntfs-3g?  or just ntfs?06:29
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ionusromanian rusian english06:29
ionus?06:29
Jucato!ru06:29
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:29
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wolferinewhat apps are used to check/repair filesystems?06:31
_4strOfsck06:31
_4strO!fsck > wolferine06:31
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wolferinethat it?06:32
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illustrissimfor ext3?06:32
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wolferineum, reiser actually06:33
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illustrissimah, i dunno about reister, sorry06:33
ToHellWithGAthe new k3b theme/skin default looks pretty slick.  is that a k3b thing or an ubuntu artwork thing?06:33
exobuzzfsck.reiserfs :-)06:33
wolferinenp06:33
fuzzy_logicwhy do i always have to configure vmware before it can start up?06:34
ToHellWithGAi might have to try the new kde instead of gnome if things keep looking that nice06:34
wolferineim having constant issues, so fsck at startup isnt helping much06:34
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crazy_penguinBye all!06:34
fuzzy_logicbye crazy_penguin06:34
exobuzzwell. reiserfs isn't well known for its reliability.06:34
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atidemhi!06:35
Dasnipa`exobuzz, neither is reisors police record06:35
FringeJackethi ToHellWithGA06:35
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wolferineok, well dispite that fact, is there anything I can do to scan/repair it?06:36
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wolferineand anything I can use to convert, w/p losing all the data?06:37
exobuzzDasnipa`: *ouch*06:37
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exobuzzDasnipa`: :) He is innocent.. the seat fell out of  his car, th ejust happened to have an interest in those "books", its all just a coincidence!06:37
fuzzy_logicwhy do i always have to configure vmware before it can start up?06:38
eeanfuzzy_logic: try doing just /etc/init.d/vmware start instead06:38
ionusthx for write in ntfs06:40
ionus!!!!!!06:40
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ionusit is worc06:40
ionusit is work06:40
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ionusvictory06:40
wolferinelovely06:40
illustrissimgood news06:40
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ionuswhere i can see keyshortcuts06:41
ionus?06:41
ionuson kubuntu06:41
ionus?06:41
wolferineread the manual....06:41
WaxyFreshcan i get some help geting sound to work in kubuntu?06:41
WaxyFreshno idea where to start06:41
ionusgive link06:42
ionus?06:42
wolferinehey waxy06:42
ionusplease06:42
wolferineionus google06:42
WaxyFreshwolferine: hi06:42
ionus:))06:42
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wolferinewaxy new install?06:42
olopezhi06:42
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WaxyFreshwolferine: kinda,few days old,dapper06:42
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wolferineah, well, it should be setup, did you check the settings (mute, volume, etc) ?06:43
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WaxyFreshbrb06:44
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WaxyFreshERROR: Communication problem with kmix, it probably crashed.06:45
olopezin vim kubuntu in have problems with syntax on parameter on vimrc , i think that it is compiled without this option.06:46
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WaxyFreshi tryed kmix and for some reason sudo kmix06:46
eagles0513875is there a command that i can run to get the mac addresses06:46
WaxyFreshifconfig?06:46
Jucatoolopez: Ubuntu/Kubuntu only installs vim-tiny by default. try to install vim-full for the full effects06:46
WaxyFresheagles0513875: ifconfig maybe06:46
olopezJucato: thanks ;)06:47
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WaxyFreshanyone have a idea aboute this?: ERROR: Communication problem with kmix, it probably crashed.06:48
olopezwow Jucato it also install gvim !! :S , have a lot of dependences06:48
Jucatoolopez: well, it is the "full" thing :)06:48
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olopezi instal "vim" package it is with syntax highlighting06:49
olopez:D06:50
bronze_0_1just looked on kubuntu.org, but cant find the bitorrent for fiesty CD images.  Am I going blind? :)06:50
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bronze_0_1OOPS - I mean Edgy Eft06:50
Jucatobronze_0_1: feisty is still beta06:50
bronze_0_1Jucato: right06:50
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bronze_0_1I'm looking for the Edgy Eft Torrent (CD version)06:51
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Jucatobronze_0_1: first choose a location, then when you are given choices, choose the "Other install options" link06:52
bronze_0_1Jucato: ah, thank you06:52
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wolferineok, so my system just crashed again06:53
wolferineif it switches from ttyl7 to ttyl9, is that a video issue?06:53
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ionus!speed up06:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about speed up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:54
ionusspeed up the kubuntu06:54
FringeJacketionus  still having problems?06:56
Jucato!pastebin | phyerboss06:56
ubotuphyerboss: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:56
WaxyFreshanyone have a idea aboute this?: ERROR: Communication problem with kmix, it probably crashed.i cant get my sound working at all06:57
illustrissimdo you have the proper driver installed?06:57
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bronze_0_1Jucato: rrrrrrrolling! thanks again.06:58
Jucatobronze_0_1: sure06:58
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WaxyFreshany tricks to make kubuntu use less ram?07:02
chijinWaxyFresh: use kde software only07:03
WaxyFreshhow do i uninstall all non kde?07:03
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kristjan_WaxyFresh: disable services, e.g. cups, bluetooth07:04
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WaxyFreshwhats the service manager called?07:04
kristjan_WaxyFresh: quit all applications you don't need that sit in system tray07:04
kristjan_WaxyFresh: kmenu>system services>advanced07:05
kristjan_WaxyFresh: what for you need free ram?07:05
WaxyFreshim just at 90+ usage on ram/cpu and things go REAL slow.its an old box07:06
WaxyFreshi dont have system services on my menu07:06
stevethepiratewhats the command to change screen resolution?07:06
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kristjan_WaxyFresh: did you go to advanced?07:07
stevethepirateor how do i change it?07:07
stevethepirateclear07:07
WaxyFreshi dont have an advanced07:07
stevethepirateanyone?07:07
WaxyFreshi think i messed up on my install07:07
kristjan_there is utility called krandrtray in kde tha let's you change reso07:07
stevethepirateta07:07
WaxyFreshstevethepirate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver or something like that,sorry not much help\07:08
stevethepiratemuch better07:08
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stevethepirateWaxyFresh: its fine.. this krandtray works 100's07:08
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AZNSLDHey all07:08
stevethepirateanyone know how i would add a battlenet server through wine for war3?07:09
kristjan_WaxyFresh: are you sure you do not have it? http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3871/snapshot3ui4.png07:09
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kristjan_try #wine maybe? :)07:09
stevethepirateits got a whopping 4 people in it..07:09
stevethepiratei lie.. 307:09
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kristjan_stevethepirate: I was 4th for a few secs07:10
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nixternal#winhq07:10
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nixternalthey have a dev channel and a support channel, so I don't know off hand which one to hit07:10
kubuntureign?07:11
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WaxyFreshkristjan_: quite sure,i had to install all kinds of stuff on my own from konverstion to adapt!but i looked and i dont havve system setting on my menu,what package is it in?07:11
stevethepiratekristjan_: :lol07:11
WaxyFreshkristjan_: i started with a frsh install of ubuntu server edition then added kubuntu-desktop then upgraded to dapper07:11
kristjan_WaxyFresh: strange, what happens if you run "kcontrol"?07:11
WaxyFreshgot it07:12
kristjan_WaxyFresh: ah, upgrade...07:12
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kristjan_WaxyFresh: It may sound controversial, but I don't believe in upgrades. I always do clean install and use separate /home partition07:13
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WaxyFreshi dont have a cd burner07:13
WaxyFreshif there was a way i could do it without a cd copy of it i would07:13
AC3Hallo, is it possible to get console output from digikam 8.2?07:13
WaxyFreshmy laptop just broke so i had to build a new computer form old parts07:14
chijinWaxyFresh: how much ram do you have?07:14
WaxyFreshnot sure07:14
WaxyFreshwhats the command?07:14
chijinrun top07:15
eagles0513875need to edit the the apt source list where do i edit them07:15
ninHeror Ctrl+Esc07:15
chijinWaxyFresh: 'top' in konsole. there's a total amount for mem07:15
chijini have 1024 megs or ram and 1023 of that is in use. that's how linux works though, so there nothing to be worried about07:15
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chijini've ran kubuntu with 192 megs of ram and it was ok07:16
WaxyFreshMem:    158940k total,   147784k used,    11156k free,     2348k buffers07:16
WaxyFreshSwap:   188408k total,    64860k used,   123548k free,    55484k cached07:16
kristjan_or dmesg | grep MEM07:16
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WaxyFreshi got kcontrol open but cant find the servies part,mine loks diffent form your by the way07:17
WaxyFreshnm got it07:18
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anti_popcan someone please help me: michael@BlackboX:~$ amarokapp07:19
anti_popamarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:19
aaroncampbellCan Kubuntu handle rpms?  I know it's not their package system, but is it possible?07:19
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wolferinecan I change reiser into ext3 w/o losing data?07:19
Yorokobi!alien | aaroncampbell07:19
ubotuaaroncampbell: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)07:19
WaxyFreshaaroncampbell: i thiink it can but its dangourus07:20
stevethepirateokay.. i just downloaded openarena.. how would i install it?07:20
stevethepiratei just unzipped it into a directory...07:20
kristjan_stevethepirate: wgat is openarena?07:20
wolferineread the README?07:20
stevethepiratedid.. nothing about installing it07:20
stevethepirateits the opensource version of quake307:21
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stevethepirateoem@noxville:~/openarena$ ls07:21
stevethepiratebaseoa   CREDITS         ioquake3.i386        ioquake3.x86_64  README07:21
stevethepirateCHANGES  ioq3ded.i386    ioquake3-smp.i386    LINUXNOTES       source07:21
stevethepirateCOPYING  ioq3ded.x86_64  ioquake3-smp.x86_64  oa060.tar.gz07:21
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anti_popopenarena is in the repos no need to install it manually07:22
stevethepirateokay.07:22
WaxyFreshkristjan_: kded: home base url notifyer/media manager/remote base url notifyer/system base url notifyer  media notifyer daemon kde write deamon kde internet deamon07:22
stevethepiratethe "sudo apt-get instal openarena" should work?07:22
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stevethepirate*then07:22
stevethepirate???07:22
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anti_popdunno what the package is called, search synaptic or your packet manager for it07:22
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stevethepiratehowto?07:22
kristjan_WaxyFresh: what is that list?07:23
WaxyFreshkristjan_: which can i remove?07:23
anti_popyoure right: sudo apt-get install openarena07:23
stevethepirateanti_pop: how do i search repos?07:23
anti_popwill work07:23
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WaxyFreshkristjan_: the list of  startup sevices07:23
aaroncampbellThanks Yorokobi and WaxyFresh ...so when you get a .deb file, how do you actually install it?07:23
stevethepirateE: Couldn't find package openarena07:23
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WaxyFresh!dpkg07:23
anti_popenable multiverse or whatever07:23
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Yorokobiaaroncampbell, sudo dpkg -i <package>07:23
anti_pop!multiverse07:23
stevethepirateit is enamped07:23
stevethepirate*it is enabled07:24
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.07:24
anti_popno idea, its in my repos07:24
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:24
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Yorokobianti_pop, it is not in the standard repos07:24
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anti_popits in multi- or universe07:24
kristjan_WaxyFresh: didn't you say you don't have "system services" available in kcontrol?07:24
stevethepiratewell.. should i just edit my sources list to add yours? then apt-get it?07:24
anti_popwait, steve07:25
stevethepirateanti_pop: this is for edgy right?07:25
anti_popim on feisty, sorry07:25
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WaxyFreshkristjan_: i thohgt i didiint have kcontrol but i did it just wasent on the menu07:25
WaxyFreshkristjan_: it looks difrent from yours07:25
stevethepirateanti_pop: i downloaded the file off the website..07:26
stevethepirateits a tarball07:26
stevethepiratei unzipped it07:26
stevethepiratenow what should i do to install it?07:27
jhutchins!build | steve07:27
ubotusteve: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:27
kristjan_WaxyFresh: so you have it in kcontrol but not in "kubuntu kcontrol version"?07:27
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anti_popsteve, its only in feisty, universe07:27
anti_popcheck readme files on that archive07:27
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anti_popi gotta go07:27
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jhutchinsstevethepirate: What package is this?07:27
stevethepirateopenarena?07:28
WaxyFreshkristjan_: kcontrol isnt on my menu i had to open it with the run comand,07:28
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kubuntureignu could create a shortcut for kcontrol07:28
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stevethepiratejhutchins: any ideas on how to install?07:30
kristjan_WaxyFresh: just to make things sure that we talk about same thing - does it look something like this? http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3723/snapshot4st8.png07:30
WaxyFreshkubuntureign: i use the terminal alot,i can just type kcontrol from there07:30
wolferinecan I change reiser into ext3 w/o losing data? LAST TIME I AM ASKING07:31
eagles0513875there is nothing in my /etc/apt/source.list07:32
slestakwolferine: i would create the ext3, copy the data while booted to a livecd, then delete the resier.  thats the safest way.07:32
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wolferinethats not what I asked07:32
slestakwell, i would say no, there is not a way.07:32
wolferinethank you07:32
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jhutchins!find openarena07:33
ubotuPackage/file openarena does not exist in edgy07:33
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WaxyFreshkristjan_: evrythings the same but i dont have system services i have service manager under kde componates07:34
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jhutchinsstevethepirate: You could try using the package from feisty - download the .deb file and use dpackage to install it, or you could try using a debian .deb if one exists.  You can also check the openarena web site and see if they provide a .deb package (check sourceforge or freshmeat).  Installing from source is the last option you want to try, and you can follow the web page above on how to do that.07:35
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stevethepiratei have the tarball already..07:35
stevethepiratei unzipped it and got this.07:35
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stevethepirateoem@noxville:~/openarena$ ls07:36
stevethepiratebaseoa   CREDITS         ioquake3.i386        ioquake3.x86_64  README07:36
stevethepirateCHANGES  ioq3ded.i386    ioquake3-smp.i386    LINUXNOTES       source07:36
stevethepirateCOPYING  ioq3ded.x86_64  ioquake3-smp.x86_64  oa060.tar.gz07:36
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kristjan_!pastebin07:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:36
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stevethepiratekristjan_: sorry.. should only have been the last 3 lines..07:36
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jhutchinsstevethepirate: Installing from the tarball means you are working outside of the package management sysetm; you have no information about dependencies or the availability of the package to other programs, you may not be able to uninstall it, and it may install things in the wrong directories.07:36
kristjan_WaxyFresh: do you have services like "bluetooth", etc.?07:36
mart81is there a w32codecs repo for feisty?07:36
ninHeramaral07:36
ninHernice nick07:37
stevethepiratejhutchins: what do you recommennd then?07:37
WaxyFreshkristjan_: no07:37
kristjan_mart81: where is one simple way to manually install them07:37
jhutchinsmart81: Dunno, check #ubuntu+1 for feisty.07:37
kristjan_WaxyFresh: post the screenshot of your "system services"07:37
jhutchinsstevethepirate: You could try using the package from feisty - download the .deb file and use dpackage to install it, or you could try using a debian .deb if one exists.  You can also check the openarena web site and see if they provide a .deb package (check sourceforge or freshmeat).  Installing from source is the last option you want to try, and you can follow the web page above on how to do that.07:37
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aaroncampbellI can't seem to get my headphone mic working in skype (not sure how else to test in kubuntu).  However, my usb mic works fine.  My headphone mic is plugged directly into the mic jac in my motherboard07:38
jhutchins!build | stevethepirate07:38
ubotustevethepirate: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:38
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paolociao07:38
WaxyFreshkristjan_: where?07:38
jhutchinsaaroncampbell: Make sure the mic input is on in your mixer.07:38
jhutchinspaolo: ciao07:38
DrXmornin, all.  i was wondering if dd images would have a problem being restored to a different drive (someone said it's a bit image copy & that if the replacement drive has a bad sector you're hosed)?07:39
jhutchins!it | paolo07:39
ubotupaolo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:39
kristjan_mart81: dl this ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/X11/multimedia/MPlayer/releases/codecs/essential-20061022.tar.bz2 and copy the contents to /usr/lib/win32 and you are done07:39
WaxyFreshkristjan_: how do i take a screen shot ?07:39
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aaroncampbelljhutchins: I *just* saw kmix...07:39
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kristjan_WaxyFresh: http://imageshack.us/ is good place to upload screens. you take screens with kmenu>graphics>ksnapshot07:44
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mart81thanks kristjan_07:44
jhutchinskristjan_: Of course that means it's not in the apt database, and other packages that depend on it won't know it's installed, and he won't have all the symlinks to it that the package would give him.07:44
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kristjan_jhutchins: with mplayer he won't have a problem. xine will play also07:44
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jhutchinskristjan_: Pluggins often look in the other directories.07:44
Jucatokristjan_: PrintScreen also works (to launch ksnapshot)07:44
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kristjan_jhutchins: don't know about totem, but every other movie player I have used (kmplayer, xine, kaffeine, vlc, mplayer) play fine with codecs all in one place - /usr/lib/win3207:44
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kristjan_jhutchins: same applies to their mozilla plugins07:44
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jhutchinskristjan_: Why not install it with apt?07:44
aaroncampbellHow can I test my mic without skype?07:44
aaroncampbellThen, once I get it working, I'll test with skype07:44
jhutchinsaaroncampbell: Should be able to capture it to speakers/headset.07:44
aaroncampbelljhutchins: how?07:45
kristjan_jhutchins: you could if you want, infact ubuntu wiki does give you links to win32 debs IIRC07:45
jhutchinsaaroncampbell: Enable the mic capture/record in kmix. If the speakers/headset are on you should hear it.07:45
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jhutchinskristjan_: Yup.07:46
jhutchinskristjan_: I like to encourage people to stay within the system if possible, especially if they're new to ubuntu.07:46
jhutchinsaaroncampbell: Make sure you're jacked into mic in, not line in.07:46
aaroncampbelljhutchins: definitely mic in07:47
NSCAD_Nathanhow can I figure out where my USB Palmpilot is mounting?07:47
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NSCAD_NathanKPilot isn't finding it... it does on my home machine no problem07:48
stevethepirateumount --help07:48
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jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: look in /var/log/messages07:48
aaroncampbelljhutchins: is there a howto or anything?  I'm really not even seeing how to tell for sure that I'm getting it set right in kmix07:48
wolferinewhere is a good FTP to get the .isos?07:49
aaroncampbellI looks like green light means on, red light means recording?07:49
jhutchinsaaroncampbell: There's this:07:49
jhutchins!sound07:49
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:49
eagles0513875!aptfix07:49
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:49
kristjan_wolferine: what isos?07:49
WaxyFreshkristjan_: will you be on for w hile?07:49
slestakNSCAD_Nathan: lsusb -v may help also07:50
wolferinekubuntu07:50
eagles0513875!aptfix07:50
WaxyFreshkristjan_: i gotta go for an hour or so07:50
eagles0513875!aptfix07:50
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:50
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wolferinekristjan_, kubuntu07:50
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kristjan_WaxyFresh: not sure. anyway I doubt I can be helpful with apt problems. I just a linux noob like you ;)07:50
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NSCAD_Nathanso /var/log/message shows me "new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5" when I enable it07:51
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jhutchins!download | wolferine07:51
ubotuwolferine: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php07:51
wolferinei asked for an FTP07:51
kristjan_wolferine: I guess mirror in your country would be fastest07:51
wolferinean FTP site07:51
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jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: Does it tell you what device it is?  like /dev/sda07:51
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wolferine!ftp | channel07:52
ubotuchannel: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd07:52
wolferinelol07:52
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kristjan_wolferine: where do you live?07:52
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NSCAD_Nathanjhutchins - no, just that, and " usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"07:52
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jhutchinswolferine: I think the mirrors list has FTP mirrors.  If not, just try ftp at the same hosts, it's usually enabled.07:52
NSCAD_Nathanwhatever #1 means07:52
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wolferineah07:52
wolferineright07:52
jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: try dmesg07:53
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NSCAD_Nathanjhutchins - same two messages07:53
kristjan_wolferine: jhutchins is absolutely right, same mirror often provides both, http and ftp07:53
stevethepiratebye ppl .. bbl07:54
stevethepirateexit07:54
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JuJuBeeCan someone assist me with squid/dansguardian/iptables ?  I have squid & dg installed.  On the machine I installed squid/dg, I will run a web server and it will also be my fileserver for my class.07:55
BluesKajhmm , trying to enable pcm digital output on my soundcard ...anything I should know about alsa settings ... I have PCM enabled but it's not appearing on the digital out ... it works ok in windows BTW ...any suggestions or ideas ?07:55
JuJuBeeI have read many articles on iptables and am more confuse than when I started.07:55
jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: Here's what mine shows for a storage device (dmesg): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12986/07:55
JuJuBeeI want a transparent proxy.07:55
jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: Do you see how I can tell that it's going to be /dev/sda?07:55
wolferineok, can someone explain to me why the iso is 40k, and can be dled in a browser (clicking a link), but in FTP it just shows as, what appears to be a link?07:56
NSCAD_Nathanjhutchins - line 25?07:56
jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: Also all the ones beginning wth "sda:".07:56
jhutchinswolferine: Probably because it's a link.07:57
slestakJuJuBee: i dont know iptables, but it may be worth looking at an app like Guraddog to get a kde interface to manage yuor firewall.07:57
fuzzy_logicwolferine: what iso?07:57
wolferineso how would I access the .iso via FTP?07:58
wolferineexecute it?07:58
NSCAD_Nathanjhutchins - right... but my dmesg doesn't show anything like that... unless uhci_hcd is something.  It only has those two lines when I plug it in.07:58
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coreymon77guys07:58
jhutchinsJuJuBee: I've never worked with dansguardian or squid, but this is a good tutorial on firewalls:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/07:58
NSCAD_NathanI wonder why it works fine at home, no troubles at all, on the same version of kubuntu...07:59
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wolferinefuzzy_logic, kubuntu.iso07:59
coreymon77how do i check how much space i have left on my partition07:59
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ubuntu!modem08:00
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto08:00
jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: try running dmesg again.08:00
jhutchinscoreymon77: df -h08:00
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wolferinejhutchins,   so how would I access the .iso via FTP?08:01
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jhutchinsftp <site>, get <pathtofile>, or cd <path>, get <file>08:01
slestakwolferine: you must downlaod it to get it to your machine.08:01
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slestakthen you can burn it to a cd or dvd08:01
wolferineslestak, ?08:01
slestak!iso08:02
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.08:02
Cara_WCAM_MSNHere comes! - Here's comes the cum!08:02
NSCAD_Nathanjhutchins - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12987/  You can see the disconnect of the device, and then the reconnect08:02
wolferinejhutchins, but when I do a getfile, its only the link I am getting08:02
wolferineslestak, you walked into a longer conversation08:02
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NSCAD_Nathanjhutchins - you should change your nick to wikijhutchins :)08:03
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wolferinewow08:03
wolferinenm08:03
jhutchinswolferine: got it?08:04
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wolferineapparently08:04
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jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: Looks like either you don't have scsi support enabled, or the pilot's not being recognized as a storage device.08:04
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jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Palm_sync_dapper http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Palm_sync_dapper http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Palm_sync_dapper08:08
coreymondarn internet08:08
coreymonanyways08:08
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jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: See if one of those helps.  I don't have a pilot, so I'm afraid I'm out of ideas.08:08
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stevethepiratehello08:08
stevethepirateagain08:08
stevethepirateokay.08:08
stevethepirateif i've got the openarena .deb.. how do i install that so that it ensures dependancies, etc....08:09
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jhutchinsstevethepirate: Great! dpkg -i <pathto.deb>08:09
coreymondoes anyone know how to check how much space i have lef ton my drive08:10
coreymonor the usage %08:10
jhutchinscoreymon: df -h08:10
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embrapasomeone can help me ?08:11
jhutchinscoreymon: Did you not get that the first time?08:11
fuzzy_logicembrapa what is your question?08:11
coreymonjhutchins: what do you mean?08:12
coreymonjhutchins: get what?08:12
embrapafuzzy_logic: when i run a program....it dont apears on "panel" near clock08:12
jhutchinscoreymon: df -h is how you check disk usage.08:13
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aaroncampbellDoes anyone here use skype with kubuntu?08:13
NSCAD_Nathanthanks jhutchins08:13
fuzzy_logicembrapa: you mean like in your taskbar? or in the tray?08:13
fuzzy_logicaaroncampbell: have used it08:13
embrapafuzzy_logic: yes..08:13
fuzzy_logicembrapa: what? i gave you 2 possabilities08:13
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aaroncampbellIt seems that it activates and uses "Front Mic" rather than just "Mic" (watching in kmix), but I don't know how to (or if I can) attach my mic to "Front"08:14
embrapafuzzy_logic: in the tray08:14
aaroncampbellWhile my motherboard has the capabilities, I don't have any audio connections in the front of my case to connect it to08:14
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slestakembrapa: what app are you running?08:15
fuzzy_logicembrapa: some applications don't put an icon in the tray.. just like in windows08:15
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Aloneaallo08:16
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embrapafuzzy_logic: but i think i dinsconfigured...it appeas...konsole....amarok..now i have to press alt+tab to show me the programs open08:16
embrapaslestak: what means app ?08:17
fuzzy_logicembrapa: i really have to go now.. sorry can't help you further..08:17
fuzzy_logicapp means application08:17
fuzzy_logicapplication means program :)08:17
fuzzy_logicbye08:17
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embrapafuzzy_logic: ok thank08:17
embrapaany aplication08:17
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coreymon_sorry bout that08:18
slestakembrapa: hmm, that is strange.08:18
coreymon_hi guys, how can i check what is taking all of the spacee on my drive08:18
embrapaslestak: i waas modifing the icons on taskbar...08:18
coreymon_i normally dont have space problems08:18
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embrapaslestak: deleting....some icons...08:19
slestakembrapa: I think what yo may have done is removed the taskbar from your panel.08:19
slestakthe taskbar has ~1" icons for each running app on your screen08:19
slestakembrapa: where the sysytem tray has single icons for some apps.08:20
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slestakembrapa: if you look to the left of each section in the panel, you will see a cross-hatched "handle" for each panel section.08:20
slestakembrapa: verify that you have both a taskbar and system tray08:20
embrapaok08:21
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adrian__hey im new can someone help me quickly?^08:22
embrapaslestak: =[[08:22
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stefo_hi08:22
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rrsHi!! I'm using kubuntu Feisty 7.0408:22
stefo_bye:)08:22
stefo_hi08:22
stefo_i'm08:22
jxnadrian_: just ask08:22
rrsI have a frustrating problem.08:22
stefo_using08:23
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stefo_what08:23
rrsNetwork Manager is enabled. But I am using static configuration for my wireless card at home.08:23
adrian__my problem is: i want to start my adept but i get this error:the APT Datebase could not be opened+08:23
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rrsSo I switch NM to offline mode and ask it to specifically connect to a static ip address.08:24
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rrsNow, I can use FireFox and KSIRC to connect.08:24
Aloneaadrian__: have you updated or messed with the sources.list?08:24
rrsBut, Konqueror/Kontact don't work.08:24
stefo_i don't know how to help you08:24
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jxnadrian_: weird.08:24
stefo_i don't know how to help you08:24
stefo_:(08:24
rrsNor do most KDE applications.08:24
rrsAny ideas/help ??08:24
jhutchinscoreymon: You can also point konqueror to system:/media/, right click on a partition, and get Properties.08:25
Yorokobirrs, they don't start or they can't reach anything on the Internet?08:25
rrsCould not connect to host http://www.google.com/.08:25
rrsThat's what Konqueror says.08:25
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rrsKontact keeps silent.08:25
Yorokobirrs, do you have a global proxy enabled08:25
rrsBut it doesn't connect to the internet to download mails.08:25
rrsNo, I'm not using any proxy.08:26
jhutchins!adeptfix | adrian__08:26
ubotuadrian__: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:26
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rrsI'm not sure if my connectivity problem is an IPV6 problem or something else.08:27
jhutchinsrrs: Did you configure the DNS?08:27
rrsYes, I did.08:27
rrsDNS is perfect.08:27
rrsdig resolved properly.08:27
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Yorokobirrs, what I mean is is one *enabled* not is one being used08:27
rrsAnd so did Firefox and ksirc.08:27
jhutchins!ipv6 | rrs08:28
YorokobiFirefox won't use the KDE global proxy settings, whereas Konqueror does08:28
uboturrs: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:28
YorokobiDisabling IPv6 won't change anything, methinks08:28
rrsYorokobi: I know. Please. I've checked and it says, "Connect to internet directly"08:28
jhutchinsYorokobi: Yeah, sounds like you have a better idea what's going on.08:28
rrsThat's what even I think.08:28
rrsIPv6 shouldn't be the problem.08:29
rrsI feel this has something to do with the new feature introduced with Feisty of applications being disconnected when the network is off.08:29
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rrsI heard that for Ubuntu. Not sure if it is in kubunut or not.08:29
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Yorokobirrs, so your K->System Settings->Network Settings->Proxy is set to Connect ... directly?08:30
rrsYes.08:30
YorokobiK, I wanted to make sure that potential problem was out of the way :)08:30
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rrsAre you guys aware if Kubuntu also uses the same feature being advertised for ubuntu ?08:31
rrs(Of applications not polling the network when it is down)08:31
stefohey rrs08:31
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stefoyou08:31
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Yorokobistefo, perhaps you should use "staccato" as a nick :D08:32
stefoin internet>wireless assistant08:32
jhutchins!enter | stefo, rrs08:32
ubotustefo, rrs: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:32
tuxumAnybody help me with the command: cat programs.dat |dpkg --set-selections08:32
rrsiwconfig gives me proper output.08:33
rrsI can connect to my router. The problem is only with KDE applications.08:33
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Yorokobirrs, and sudo ifconfig gives you the correct IP/Subnet/GW/etc ?08:33
rrsYes. I say that again because if that was wrong, I wouldn't have been chatting with you right now.08:33
YorokobiTrue enough, I'll try not to belabor that (or proxies) anymore08:34
jhutchinsrrs: Since it's a feisty "feature", you may find more help in #ubuntu+108:34
rrsOh!!! Wrong channel !!!08:34
rrsSorry, I recently turned from Debian (+5yrs) to Kubuntu.08:34
rrsI'll check there.08:34
jhutchinsThey cover all flavors of feisty.08:35
rrsBTW, if you guys can provide any help, that'd be good.08:35
jhutchinsThis feature sounds like a lousy idea.  "We know better than you what you want, you don't need to be able to control your networking."08:35
jhutchinsMicrosoft Thinking.08:35
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wolferinehow do I burn an ISO, can I use gnomebaker?08:36
Yorokobiwolferine, k3b08:37
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wolferineim not using kde08:37
Yorokobiheh, wrong channel, wolferine :)08:37
wolferine+b in ubuntu08:37
wolferineONLY channel08:37
PupenoRDo you know of a program to write test procedures for human beings to carry on and write down the results?08:37
jhutchinswolferine: Were you bad?08:38
wolferine+b != good08:38
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jhutchinsPupenoR: You might look at the edubuntu packages (they'll work on kubuntu).08:38
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PupenoRjhutchins: what?08:39
jhutchinswolferine: Use cdrecord08:39
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Yorokobiwolferine, or switch to KDE08:39
PupenoRjhutchins: I don't want to test humans, I want to help human test software and help humans report to me how my software is doing on the tests.08:39
wolferineim burning the kubuntu ISO :?)08:39
YorokobiWhy don't you just install the KDE packages from the repos?08:40
wolferinePupenoR, cvs + webboard08:40
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jhutchins!equivalents08:40
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant08:40
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salatorhei08:42
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eilker!monodevelop08:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about monodevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:43
wolferinejhutchins, u write the bot yourself?08:43
eilker!mono > eilker08:43
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jhutchinswolferine: Nope.08:50
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tuxxhello08:50
jxnhi tuxx08:50
jhutchinswolferine: It's a pretty good one though.08:50
tuxxmy old nick got stuck somewhere08:50
tuxxstrange08:51
wolferinei agree08:51
wolferinetake a day or two just to get the triggers down08:51
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bruja8hi guys,08:54
tuxxhi bruja808:54
jxnhello bruja808:55
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wolferinecan I just upgrade to kubuntu from in 6.10 ubuntu?08:55
tuxxwolferine: that's verry easy08:55
Yorokobiwolferine, yes08:55
wolferineor is it better to just format?08:55
bruja8i am trying to install a windows driver tru ndiswrapper, but it says that the driver is not 32-bit08:55
tuxxwolferine: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:55
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wolferinenah08:55
jxndamn, tuxx was faster than me. :08:55
wolferinewas getting the BETA08:56
tuxx:p08:56
tuxxmore experienced in upgrading from ubuntu 6.10 to kubuntu08:56
tuxx:p08:56
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jxnheh08:56
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tuxxdid that a lot08:56
tuxxthen i figured out that it would be easier to burn a kubuntu CD08:57
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bruja8can anyone help me with ndiswrapper08:57
tuxxi was to lazy to download08:57
wolferineok08:57
wolferinetime to install08:57
wolferinebbiab08:57
jxnme too08:57
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bruja8can someone tell me where ii can find a 32bit broadcom driver?08:58
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ahlalo_elyonDoes anyone use or know of a good video cataloging application?  The one's I've used from the repos are pretty poor...08:58
jxnbruja8: broadcom is included in kernel 2.6.2008:59
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Yorokobibruja8, http://www.opendrivers.com/company/21031/broadcom-free-driver-download.html08:59
Yorokobibruja8, are you using 6.10 or 7.04 ?09:00
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bruja8i am using 6.0609:01
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bruja8because 6.10 won't load the right firmware09:01
Yorokobibruja8, in that case, you're outta luck with the 2.6.20 kernel unless you plan on rolling your own09:02
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bruja8i read somewhere that i can download the firmware, without having to use the fw-cutter09:02
bruja8do you know where i can download the firmware09:03
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Yorokobibruja8, pardon my ignorance but why do you need the firmware?09:05
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bruja8because kernel 2.6.20 comes only with the driver and not the firmware09:05
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bruja8so the wl card is recognised but not functionable09:05
Dekanshello09:06
Yorokobibruja8, okay ... but why do you need the firmware? Are you planning on changing the firmware version then?09:06
Dekansdoes someone use kopete with jingle support on kubuntu ?09:06
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bruja8no,09:06
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bruja8just load it in /lib/firmware09:08
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dhqwill kde4 be with fawn09:09
DrX besides dd and dd_rescue, what's a good way to backup a non-mountable block device without having to worry about differing bad blocks on different drives?09:10
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dhq!fawn09:10
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)09:10
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xettno. as far as i know kde4 will be released after feisty.09:10
astronautehi guys :) can someone tell me if there is a channel for Adobe Flex 2.0 somewhere on the freenode or maybe other irc server please ?09:11
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pirothezerois there a list of files some where of files I need to backup if I want to make a clean install ? mostly the conf files I have for everything09:11
Lynourebruja8: What card do you have again? 2200BG or something else?09:11
Lynoureoh, duh :(09:12
dhq!kde409:12
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org09:12
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MinceR!away > Yorokobi09:14
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mastermanxhey guys09:18
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mastermanxso when i do the adept manger09:18
fuzzy_logichi09:19
mastermanxthing i have to right click and install everything09:19
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Dekansdoes someone use kopete with jingle support on kubuntu ? please09:19
mastermanxdoes any one know anything about adept manager09:19
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fuzzy_logicmastermanx: why do you use adept manager? i always found synaptic better09:20
MinceRadept manager is slow09:20
mastermanxyeah09:20
mastermanxwhen i right click eveything09:20
mastermanxit looks like it freezes09:20
mastermanxcuz everything says not installed09:21
DekansMinceR: yes but adept allows quick searches09:21
fuzzy_logicwhy don't you use synaptic?09:21
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MinceRwhich aren't quick either ;)09:21
mastermanxwho me09:21
fuzzy_logicyes09:21
mastermanxwhats that09:21
mastermanxisnt adept better09:21
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fuzzy_logicsynaptic package manager is the standard graphical interface for apt-get09:22
fuzzy_logicno.. not at all09:22
fuzzy_logicadept is old and slow09:22
mastermanxo ok where do i get it then09:22
fuzzy_logicit is included in (k)ubuntu by default09:22
fuzzy_logicat least in edgy eft09:22
mastermanxok do u know where i can go to click it/09:22
fuzzy_logicwich version do you have?09:22
mastermanxwhere is it located09:22
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illustrissimmastermanx: you can use adept to install synaptic09:23
fuzzy_logicehh.. in kde? just a sec..09:23
wolferineduring the new install of kubuntu, I am hanging on the formatting09:23
wolferineis there a way to see "whats going on behind the scenes" ?09:23
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fuzzy_logicillustrissim: it is included by default i think09:23
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wolferinei really think my HD is hopped09:24
wolferinehooped09:24
mastermanxi got edgy09:24
mastermanxyeah09:24
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: System > Synaptic Package Manager09:24
wolferineis there a way to setup verbose?09:24
fuzzy_logicbut i'm not sure.. haven't used kde for a wile09:24
mastermanxhmm im trying to find it09:24
dhqis kde4 beta out09:24
wolferineim using the alternative CD09:24
mastermanxok the adept manger09:25
mastermanxi see it so i right click and install09:25
mastermanx?09:25
fuzzy_logicwell.. i would say so.. but i would say you alrady have it installed09:26
wolferinewow09:26
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wolferinememtest is givingme back 1000+errors09:26
mastermanxok then i apply changes09:26
mastermanxnow whatt09:26
wolferineitsbeen my  RAM all this time :/09:26
fuzzy_logicbefore installing, mastermanx, try to type in your terminal sudo synaptic09:27
fuzzy_logicthen enter, then your password if you're asked for that09:27
mastermanxwhere that at09:27
illustrissimthe terminal should be under system > konsole09:27
fuzzy_logicit's called konsole in kde09:28
mastermanxcommmand not found09:28
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illustrissimmaster manx: just type sudo apt-get install synaptic into the terminal09:28
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fuzzy_logicyes.. that is also possible :)09:28
illustrissimthat will install synaptic, then it should be under the system menu09:29
mastermanxit said09:29
mastermanxsome erros09:29
mastermanxbefore i got to it09:29
mastermanxbut it open up09:29
illustrissimsorry, my fault mastermanx09:29
illustrissimif you have adept open, you cant use apt-get, becuase the process is locked up09:29
DrXI'm getting frequent "timeout while copying, retry?" messages when copying to a WIndows XP Pro file share from OpenSUSE 10.2 -- is this because I'm using SMB://<ip> ?09:30
fuzzy_logicye just wanted to say that :)09:30
cainaapt-get install gnome09:30
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fuzzy_logiccaina: what?09:30
cainahi !09:30
mastermanxit said start without adminstartive privivlges09:30
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: close adept, then run the suggested command, then it will work09:31
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cainatype su -09:31
fuzzy_logicyou have to do this: sudo apt-get install synaptic09:31
mastermanxu will not be able to apply any changes but u can still export the marked changes or create a download script of them09:31
mastermanxi did09:31
mastermanxit said synaptic is already the newest veriosn09:31
fuzzy_logicdid you type your admin pwd?09:31
mastermanxit didint let me09:31
fuzzy_logiccopy that plz09:31
fuzzy_logiccopy the msg u got09:32
cainaapt-get install automatix209:32
LjL!automatix09:32
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe09:32
mastermanxso what i do09:33
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mastermanxin the konsole09:33
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mastermanxu type what09:33
mastermanxsynaptic09:33
fuzzy_logicsudo apt-get install synaptic09:33
fuzzy_logicwhat do you get after typing that?09:33
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FatCfornwall: Why are people in #fedora so full of hate?09:34
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mastermanxfuzzy u thier09:35
fuzzy_logicoh.. shit! mastermanx.. do you have gnome installed?09:35
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mastermanxno09:35
mastermanxlol09:35
mastermanxidk09:35
fornwallFatC: you try waiting for "yum search .." once, and then we can speak about hate :)09:36
mastermanxi just dled this off the site09:36
mastermanxand shit and installed it09:36
mastermanxlol09:36
illustrissimmastermanx: if apt-get said that you already have the newest version installed, then it should be under the system menu09:36
fuzzy_logicwell then synaptic won't run on your system.. its only for gnome09:36
fuzzy_logicsynaptic is gnome-only app09:36
mastermanxwell yeah its gnome09:37
mastermanxi thinkm09:37
mastermanxit ran i jut need to09:37
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mastermanxput my password in it09:37
illustrissimyes09:37
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phyerbossis it really?...pclinux is on kde but used synaptic09:37
phyerbossso is does mepis09:37
fuzzy_logicwell.. i think so09:37
illustrissimyou can run synaptic on kubuntu, but sometimes its slow to open, i think09:37
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: did it install?09:38
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mastermanxyup09:38
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mastermanxthier u go i see i09:38
mastermanxhold09:38
mastermanxi ove09:38
mastermanxnix09:38
mastermanxii love i love u guys09:38
fuzzy_logicwe love u too mastermanx :)09:39
fuzzy_logicdid you find it now in the menu?09:39
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pirothezerowhats the xbuntu chan?09:39
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cainasomeone know what is xoo ?09:39
phyerbossanyone have an idea how to get rid of a stubborn compiz?09:39
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phyerbossi cant unistall it=\09:39
fuzzy_logicpirothezero: it's xubuntu, not xbuntu.. so the channel is #xubuntu09:40
mastermanxi just installed09:40
mastermanxasm09:40
mastermanxhhee09:40
mastermanx love this09:40
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ibrahimhi friends09:40
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fuzzy_logichello09:40
pirothezeroindeed typo on my part didn't occur to me to do that with the ubuntu+1 type stuff lol09:40
topsyhi09:40
mastermanxwhat u guys use for browser09:40
ibrahimi didnt install messenger  ( yahoo messemger)09:40
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: i use firefox09:41
BluesKajhmm , trying to enable pcm digital output on my soundcard ...anything I should know about alsa settings ... I have PCM enabled but it's not appearing on the digital out ... it works ok in windows BTW ...any suggestions or ideas ?09:41
phyerbossfire fox or konquror if you'r using kubuntu09:41
fuzzy_logicfor years.. really great browser09:41
ibrahimlinux version09:41
mastermanxyeah i use it to09:41
mastermanxfirefox wont instal09:41
mastermanxim new to sintall this09:41
fuzzy_logicit should alrady be installed.. or am i talking crap now?09:42
fuzzy_logictry via the kde menu Internet > Firefox09:42
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illustrissimunfortunately, fuzzy_logic, its not installed by default in kubuntu09:42
mastermanxi download it09:42
mastermanxand stuff09:42
Daisuke_Idokonqueror doesn't suck though09:42
mastermanxbut couldn install09:42
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phyerbosswhich i found sad...but konquror aint bad at all09:42
Daisuke_Idoi have a complaint with firefox.  menu bar.  nuff said09:43
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: why not? what kind of error did you get?09:43
Daisuke_Idomastermanx: sudo apt-get install firefox09:43
mastermanxhold09:43
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mastermanxam i using09:43
mastermanxadept09:43
mastermanxor that new one i got synp09:44
Daisuke_Idoneither09:44
Daisuke_Idoa terminal09:44
Daisuke_Ido:)09:44
Daisuke_Idoboth are good gui apt frontends09:44
Daisuke_Idobut this is quicker09:44
mastermanxhow do09:44
mastermanxi make the command09:44
mastermanxto install09:44
mastermanxall09:44
mastermanxehhee09:44
Daisuke_Idohit alt-f209:44
mastermanxok it says09:45
mastermanxrun command09:45
mastermanxright09:45
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get install firefox09:45
fuzzy_logicthen type apt-get install firefox09:45
fuzzy_logicoh forgot sudo lol09:45
Daisuke_Idoyeah09:45
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mastermanxnow what09:45
mastermanxhow do i install everything and enable it all09:45
BluesKajtoo many cooks again09:45
Daisuke_Idoyou don't want to install *everything*09:45
mastermanxo09:46
fuzzy_logichahaha :D09:46
Daisuke_Idoyou likely don't have the hard drive space :)09:46
fuzzy_logici think it just installes by itself right?09:46
fuzzy_logicso the only thing you have to do is wait09:46
Daisuke_IdoFF, yeah09:46
mastermanxi got 200gb09:46
mastermanxman09:46
Daisuke_Idoyou don't have the hd space.09:46
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Daisuke_Ido:)09:46
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ishmeethi09:47
fuzzy_logichi09:47
mastermanxE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)09:47
mastermanxE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?09:47
mastermanxthas what it said09:47
Daisuke_Idoyou forgot sudo09:47
fuzzy_logicsudo apt-get install firefox09:47
mastermanxso how do i type it all for fox09:47
fuzzy_logicjust like i said: sudo apt-get install firefox09:48
phyerbossit'll download & install it09:48
phyerbossall withthat 1 command09:48
fuzzy_logicyes09:48
K`zanIs there some way to get the apps I have installed on edgy to load up under feisty (other than manually) :-)?09:48
mastermanxim right that down09:48
mastermanxnice and it insytall the new one09:49
mastermanxnice09:49
fuzzy_logicK`zan: just upgrade?09:49
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: yes09:49
K`zanfuzzy_logic: Leery about that and I already have feisty (7.04) installed.09:49
mastermanxit did by self09:49
mastermanxhehe09:49
K`zanfuzzy_logic: On a different partition...09:49
mastermanxhow do i update amsn09:50
mastermanxthen09:50
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: did it work? do you see firefox in Intenret09:50
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mastermanxya09:50
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: hit alt+f2 and type this: apt-get update09:50
fuzzy_logicthen it will update all applications you installed with synaptic/apt-get09:50
DrXI'm getting frequent "timeout while copying, retry?" messages when copying to a WIndows XP Pro file share from OpenSUSE 10.2 -- is this because I'm using SMB://<ip> ?09:51
fuzzy_logicK`zan: can you reach your other partition where you have the previous kubuntu installation?09:51
mastermanxi did09:51
mastermanxnow what09:51
mastermanxnothing happen09:51
Daisuke_Idoupdate just updates the package lists09:51
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Daisuke_Idomastermanx: sudo apt-get upgrade09:52
mastermanxit keeps saying amsn09:52
mastermanxnew verison09:52
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: when you run amsn?09:53
Daisuke_Idoactually, if you just want to do your upgrades, use adept or synaptic to mark all upgradable packages and do it from there09:53
fuzzy_logicit could be that apt-get still doesn't offer the new version09:53
fuzzy_logicin that case i would wait till it does09:53
K`zanfuzzy_logic: yes I can.09:54
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mastermanxyes09:54
fuzzy_logicK`zan: just a sec09:54
fuzzy_logicdid you do what Daisuke_Ido suggested?09:54
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K`zanfuzzy_logic: rr standing by, thanks much!09:54
mastermanxhey daisuke09:55
mastermanxor fuzzy09:56
fuzzy_logicK`zan: i would say just copy the map where the apps are stored?09:56
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: what?09:56
allblacksi need help i have just downloaded the Kubuntu from internet i have installed and i tried to make an update and a window pops up with a user called kdesu adep_manager and is asking for a passwd and i don not know the pass how can i pass it09:56
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illustrissimallblacks: it's the same as your user password09:57
fuzzy_logicallblacks: you can't pass it :) it's a required thing09:57
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: how is it going?09:57
mastermanxit says i need to update09:57
mastermanxamsn09:57
DrXcan i use compare file.bz2 smb://192.168.1.1/Share/file.bz2 to ensure they are the same?09:57
mastermanxdo i need t download that thing09:58
fuzzy_logicyou can do that.. but i would not recommend09:58
mastermanxwhat should i do09:58
mastermanxthen09:58
fuzzy_logicjust try to update it with synaptic like daisuke suggested09:58
mastermanxok09:58
ishmeethow can i uninstall open office 2.0 and install open office 2.209:58
mastermanxi love doing commands09:58
K`zanfuzzy_logic: No idea what that is, but I'll see what I can find out.  Thanks.09:58
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myleshi09:59
fuzzy_logicK`zan: don't know that too, im quite new to linux.. but a google search will do it i think09:59
fuzzy_logichi09:59
mastermanxim likeing this bettter09:59
mastermanxthen windows fuzzy09:59
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UltimaDudehi09:59
UltimaDudeI'm having a problem installing Gnome09:59
UltimaDudeWhen it finnishes downloading I Get a conigure j2re1.410:00
UltimaDudeconfigure*10:00
fuzzy_logicishmeet: it's not recommended to upgrade until you can do it with apt-get or synaptic10:00
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: yes, hehe.. me too10:00
ishmeethmm10:00
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: welcome to the linux-world :)10:00
mastermanxi might just10:00
mastermanxuse gaim10:00
UltimaDudeI no longer use Windows :)10:00
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mastermanxreally ulimate10:00
UltimaDudeyes10:01
UltimaDudeI couldn't resize my partition10:01
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: yes.. i use gaim too10:01
ishmeetthx10:01
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UltimaDudeAnyway when i'm done with my Gnome download10:01
ishmeetit is not apt-get or symantic10:01
ishmeet:(10:01
UltimaDudeI Just get a COnfiguring j2re1.410:01
UltimaDudeAnd I can't click anything10:01
UltimaDudeJust scroll down10:01
UltimaDudeAnd it says accept and there is no accept10:01
fuzzy_logici know.. 2.2 just came out.. so i wouldn't upgrade just yet10:02
fuzzy_logicwith what are you downloading gnome?10:02
UltimaDudeme?10:02
UltimaDudeKonsol10:02
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UltimaDudeKonsole10:02
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: with apt-get?10:02
UltimaDudeyes10:02
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UltimaDude  Configuring j2re1.4 10:03
UltimaDude                                                                            10:03
UltimaDude  pursuant to the terms of this Agreement.  Source code may not be          10:03
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: what command do you use?10:03
UltimaDude  redistributed unless expressly provided for in this Agreement.            10:03
UltimaDudeThats what I Get10:03
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fuzzy_logicah :) hehe10:03
mastermanxfuzzy can u pm me plz10:03
UltimaDudeI Put sudo aptitude update.10:03
UltimaDudeI mean10:03
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: press PgDn a couple of times till you come to the end10:03
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BluesKaj!pastebin | UltimaDude10:03
ubotuUltimaDude: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:03
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ishmeetthx fuzzy10:03
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fuzzy_logicishmeet: no probs10:04
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: with what?10:04
K`zanfuzzy_logic: Found something but it doesn't work yet: dpkg --get-selections | grep --v deinstall > ubuntu-files10:04
mastermanxjust pm me10:04
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mastermanxwanted to know ur aim name10:04
fuzzy_logicK`zan: i'm not familliar with that command, sorry :(10:04
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: i don't use aim10:05
fuzzy_logici have msn10:05
UltimaDudehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13004/10:05
K`zanfuzzy_logic: Got it - one "-" in the grep: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > ubuntu-files10:05
UltimaDudeDone10:05
K`zanfuzzy_logic: gives you a list of installed apps!  Thank!10:05
K`zanThanks!10:05
UltimaDudeIs there another way to get Gnome?10:05
fuzzy_logicK`zan: no probs10:05
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: press PageDown a few times10:06
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fuzzy_logicdoes anything change on that screen?10:06
mastermanxdid u get that pm fuzzy10:06
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mastermanxwhere did u dl gaim from10:06
mastermanxthe site or adept10:06
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: yes10:06
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: it was just installed with a fresh installation10:06
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fuzzy_logicmastermanx: you can install gaim by pressing alt f2 and then type: sudo apt-get install gaim10:07
txwikingerAnybody know how one can get the option for language selection switched on with kdm ?10:08
UltimaDudefuzzy_logic: I just get a OK that I can't agree to10:08
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mastermanxlove u man10:08
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: did u succeed?10:08
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: haha10:08
UltimaDudefuzzy_logic: no.10:08
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: are you able to accept it? or not?10:09
fuzzy_logictry to type y and then enter10:09
UltimaDudeFuzzy_logic: I can't accept it10:09
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UltimaDudefuzzy_logic: I Have no option to10:10
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illustrissimUltimaDude, try using the arrow keys to put the focus onto the OK10:10
fuzzy_logiccopy the screen you have now please UltimaDude10:10
UltimaDudeIt doesn't work10:10
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fuzzy_logicon the site pzl10:10
UltimaDudehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13005/10:11
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fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: press enter10:11
ahlalo_elyonCould someone suggest a good video cataloging program?10:11
UltimaDudefuzzy_logic: it does nothing10:12
mastermanxwhen i download stuff from irc10:12
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mastermanxwhere does all the stuff go to what folder10:12
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: what irc client do you use?10:12
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: and space?10:13
UltimaDudefuzzy_logic: doesn't work either10:13
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fuzzy_logicahlalo_elyon: don't have a direct answer to your question.. but what is video catalogging?10:13
illustrissimUltimaDude, use the arrow keys, press the right or down (i dont remember which) to make the OK red10:13
illustrissimthen enter should work10:14
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fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: you can't go any further than that with the page down??10:14
UltimaDudeillustrissim: it worked!10:14
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: did you get my question? what irc client do you use?10:14
mastermanxits 1.5010:14
mastermanxi think of gaim10:14
mastermanxfuzzy10:14
mastermanxi use10:15
mastermanxkonversation10:15
illustrissimultimadude, alot of the proprietary stuff (google earth, etc) uses that same screen for their eula10:15
mastermanxsorry was in bathroom10:15
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fuzzy_logicmastermanx: don't know that program.. try to go trough the preferences of konversation and see if you can configure somewhere a download folder10:16
UltimaDudeE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:16
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: you have more of those windows open?10:16
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UltimaDudefuzzy_logic: no.10:17
mastermanxshould i always unpack things or no10:17
illustrissimUltimaDude: are you running synaptic or adept/adept upgrade?10:17
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mastermanxwhen i do like install an stuff10:17
mastermanxand stuff10:17
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mastermanxim using the program konversation10:18
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UltimaDudefuzzy_logic: no.10:18
zettme too10:18
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: you don't have any other terminal/konsole windows open?10:18
aaroncampbellWhat do people use to listen to/watch podcasts?10:18
UltimaDudenope10:18
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: what are you trying to do?10:19
UltimaDudeI've closed down everything10:19
UltimaDudeI did have one running before10:19
fuzzy_logicaaroncampbell: rythmbox10:19
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: i would suggest that you log out and in again.. because maybe that window has left a process behind or so10:20
aaroncampbellfuzzy_logic: where do I get that?10:20
UltimaDudeI Updated10:20
UltimaDudeNow its having to redownload10:20
UltimaDudeCan I ask something?10:20
UltimaDudeI downloaded the Linux version of MUGEN10:20
fuzzy_logicaaroncampbell: press alt f2 and type: sudo apt-get install rythmbox10:21
UltimaDudeand when I extract it I Just get folder's and a EXE10:21
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: you sure you downloaded the right file?10:21
aaroncampbellfuzzy_logic: weird, I was using adept, and I searched "ryth" and got nothing10:21
mastermanxi got10:21
UltimaDudeI typed inb10:21
UltimaDudesudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop10:21
mastermanxthx fycxtz10:21
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fuzzy_logicdon't use aptitude10:22
fuzzy_logicif you want to install, always use apt-get10:22
dfoerI have a menubar at athe top of my screen. I'm not sure how I got it there, but I don't know how to get it off10:22
mastermanxfuzy10:23
mastermanxwhat ur aim name10:23
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: shit, i made a mistake.. you can't get rythmbox with apt-get10:23
UltimaDudefuzzy_logic: Rythmbox?10:23
fuzzy_logictry to see if you have it already installed.. go to the kde menu and then Sound > Rythmbox10:23
fuzzy_logicUltimaDude: yes10:24
fuzzy_logicmastermanx: i don't have aim10:24
UltimaDudefuzzy_logic: you're talking to the wrong person xD10:24
mastermanxmsn?10:24
mastermanxcuz u said u got gaim10:24
UltimaDudeYahoo?10:24
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fuzzy_logici already gave you in the private chat10:24
fuzzy_logichi Yorokobi10:24
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mastermanxi dont see10:24
mastermanxit fuzzy10:24
YorokobiHello, fuzzy_logic10:25
mastermanxpm me again10:25
mastermanxi just register10:25
mastermanxso i can accept pms10:25
fuzzy_logici send u an private message10:26
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mastermanxits  not poping up10:26
mastermanxlet me restart server hold10:26
fuzzy_logicno wait10:26
fuzzy_logiclol10:26
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qsuanybody playing vegastrike10:26
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mastermanxok10:26
dfoer_hello10:26
mastermanxim message y bnow10:26
fuzzy_logicmastermanx my msn is msn@djordjeweb.nl10:26
mastermanxfuzzy10:26
fuzzy_logichi10:26
fuzzy_logicmastermanx u got my message?10:27
dfoer_I messed around with my settings recently, and now I have a menu bar at teh top of my screen10:27
dfoer_I'm not sure how to remove it10:27
dfoer_can you help?10:28
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illustrissimdfoer: i'm trying to remember where the setting is, i know its in system settings10:28
dfoer_I'll open that up and look10:28
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fuzzy_logicdfoer_: right click the panel and click remove panel10:28
jhutchinsdfoer_: You can click-and-drag to move it.10:29
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Yorokobiah, but is it a panel bar or a Mac-style menu bar ?10:29
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dfoer_It's not a panel. It's like a menubar. it has File Sessions New Bookmarks Desktop Windows Help10:30
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=== fuzzy_logic waves and wishes luck to ya all with ur probs
fuzzy_logiccya10:30
Yorokobiciao, fuzzy_logic10:30
jhutchinsdfoer_: Or right-click the desktop, Configure, Behavior, Menu Bar at Top of Screen.10:30
dfoer_bye fuzzy_logic10:30
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jhutchins...think I'll go do some more work on the bike...10:30
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blackdevilhi guys10:31
illustrissimdfoer: jhutchins is right, thats how you fix it10:31
dfoer_Awwight!10:31
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dfoer_Thank you jhutchins10:31
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markelhashi10:32
dfoer_hello10:32
markelhasneed some help with my network any one!? hi packet loss from my box to router10:32
Slasherhi10:32
dfoer_Thanks guys!10:32
markelhas*i've10:32
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markelhas20 packets transmitted, 11 received, 45% packet loss, time 19065ms10:33
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markelhasi've disable my other network card, but the problem stell there10:33
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aaroncampbellHow do people here watch podcasts?10:33
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aaroncampbelliTunes with something like crossover office?10:34
robin_____hi10:34
markelhashow can i solve this problem? i've tested with diferent acble and the same result10:34
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N6REJafternoon all10:34
markelhasif  aping from my laptop over wifi or cable it's everithyng ok10:34
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markelhasthe problem is on this box10:35
robin_____I have finally get my RL2500 (ralink) wifi working on 7.04(kubuntu) I can use adept, and ping (for instance google.com) but Konqueror won't connect to the internet.10:35
markelhasany thing!?10:35
illustrissimsorry markelhas10:35
robin_____Because somehow, the timezone was setup wrongly, I have now all kinds of files with timestamp in the future, and sudo is complaining about that.10:35
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robin_____I hope someone is able to help me ;-)10:35
markelhasillustrissim: nothing! :(10:35
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robin_____maybe the second thing is causing the problems with konqueror, but I don't know.10:36
illustrissimmarkelhas, maybe see if there's a driver available for the card you're using10:36
Daisuke_Idogrr10:36
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Daisuke_Idognomeboyadvance doesn't work.  kvba doesn't work.  and vbaexpress is painful to use :(10:37
markelhasillustrissim: a driver,! is a on board10:37
markelhasfrom nvidia10:37
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N6REJI'm having a problem with my digital camera.  Digicam can't seem to find it.10:37
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markelhasbut no spesifc drivers for linux!10:37
illustrissimmarkelhas: ach, i dont know then10:37
N6REJI'm not sure where to start.10:37
markelhasillustrissim: :( thkns any away10:38
robin_____sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 31 00:27:46 2007 <= How can i stop sudo for complaining about this (it's 30-03-2007 22:38 now here)10:38
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BluesKajGents, I'm trying to enable pcm digital output on my soundcard (ATI)...anything I should know about alsa settings ... I have PCM enabled (I think), but it's not appearing on the digital out ... it works ok in windows BTW ...any suggestions or ideas ?10:42
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robin_____aargh, nobody knows how to get sudo shut up about the timestap in the future thingy ?10:45
robin_____no I can't run any program with sudo :|10:45
illustrissimtry sudo -K10:46
illustrissimthat should remove the timestamp10:46
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robin_____illustrissim: doesn't work, it says again:10:46
robin_____illustrissim: 66.249.93.10410:47
robin_____illustrissim: ehm wrong copy&paste10:47
robin_____illustrissim: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 31 00:27:46 200710:47
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N6REJBluesKaj: you know anything about digicams with kubuntu?10:48
Yorokobirobin_____, http://my.opera.com/render/blog/show.dml/33712110:48
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robin_____Yorokobi: hmm my konqueror doesn't work either that's my second problem, so I can't read the URL ;-|10:48
Yorokobirobin_____, one sec10:48
robin_____only adept and konversation work ..10:49
robin_____Yorokobi: ok10:49
Yorokobi1. Check the timestamp sudo reports10:49
N6REJ!camera10:49
Yorokobi2. Use Adjust Date & Time to set the date/time to the sudo timestamp or later.10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
Yorokobi3. Execute the 'sudo -k' command. (Clears the timestamp).10:49
Yorokobi4. Use Adjust Date & Time to set the date/time back to the correct values.10:49
YorokobiThat should do it10:50
robin_____Yorokobi: ok thanks10:50
SixFeetUnderwhats up everyone?10:50
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MinceRvector 180 from the COM of the nearest gravity well10:50
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SixFeetUnderjpiccolo?10:50
SixFeetUnderjeff?10:50
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wolferinewhere do you dl k/ubuntu at again??10:51
SixFeetUnderubuntu.com10:51
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jpiccolois there a way that i can find the address of a video card as in pci bus10:52
robin_____lspci10:52
jpiccoloso i can edit my xorg10:52
robin_____?10:52
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Yorokobijpiccolo, robin_____ is correct. 'lspci | grep VGA'10:53
mastermanxyy10:53
mastermanx2006ok10:53
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Yorokobijpiccolo, if you're using an AGP card the BusID is usually "PCI:1:0:0"10:55
illustrissimgoodnight all10:55
eyez_I have some porblems with my nvidia drivers, can some one help me out10:56
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robin_____eyez_: I haven't installed them yet, so no sry10:56
Yorokobirobin_____, is you sudo issue fixed?10:57
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eyez_robin_____:  > ok :) i just installed em, but looks like i can only run with 600*48010:57
robin_____Yorokobi: hmm no, because for some unknown reason I can't change my date either, but adept is still updating, I will try after a refresh reboot ;-)10:57
Yorokobieyez_, what is your VGA chipset10:57
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eyez_I used envy script10:58
Yorokobi!resolution | eyez_10:58
ubotueyez_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:58
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eyez_Yorokobi: > thx for the link, gona read it now and se if will help me :D10:59
pollyoAnyone have mceusb remote setup on kubuntu?10:59
Yorokobieyez_, you're welcome10:59
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Lynouremy knetworkmanager does not show the channel used by the access points. What's the easiest way to see that info?11:04
Lewixwhere can I download kunbuntu fast11:04
Lewixand how do you pronounce it11:04
dhqhow do i install kiba-dock11:04
Lewix"kubuntu"11:05
YorokobiLewix, www.kubuntu.org11:05
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YorokobiLewix, bittorrent or jingdo are the typically fastest download methods11:05
dhq!Kiba-dock11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
ubuntuthe installer crashes for me :(11:06
mrignsLewix: kooboontoo11:06
LewixYorokobi: jingdo?11:06
Lewixmrigns: thanks11:06
Yorokobier, jigdo ... I'd have to look11:07
mrignsjigdo jigsaw downloader11:07
Lewixyou guys don't have a xdcc or something11:07
RoyB72I just removed my nvidia packages to check something, and now I can't log back in, just get to tty1.. can anyone help?11:07
YorokobiRoyB72, is your X video driver set to nvidia or nv ?11:08
ubuntuYorokobi: jingdo? what's that?11:08
RoyB72no idea.. I'm a noob.. 5 days nood11:08
Yorokobiubuntu, a mis-spelling11:08
Yorokobiof jigdo11:08
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RoyB72yorokobi, I got kubuntu edgy, with beryl, had installed nvidia-(glf or something) package11:09
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ubuntuYorokobi: ok11:10
YorokobiRoyB72, okay. sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx11:10
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RoyB72yorokobi, done11:11
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RoyB72yorokobi, restart comp now?11:11
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YorokobiRoyB72, restart X and see what happens. But, before you do, did you change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?11:11
RoyB72ehmm. not that I know of11:12
Yorokobi... after removing the glx package?11:12
Yorokobiokay then, restart X11:12
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Yorokobictrl-alt-backspace11:12
mrignswont work in tty111:12
IrayoHow come my eth0, which I have told countless times is 192.168.0.21 in multiple configuration screens, keeps mysteriously switching back to 0.181 (the first DHCP IP available)?11:12
Yorokobimrigns, true enough. Thanks11:13
RoyB72yorokobi, nothing happens11:13
YorokobiYeah, sorry RoyB72. sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:13
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jpiccolois there a way to install a nic in a laptop thats one of those card things11:14
eyez_Yorokobi:  > Thx for the help, got it working now.11:14
jpiccologet it to work in linux11:14
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Yorokobieyez_, you're welcome11:14
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Yorokobijpiccolo, "one of those card things" ?? A PCMCIA card?11:15
jpiccoloyeah pcmcia card11:16
Yorokobijpiccolo, if the kernel supports the card then you probably just need to plug it in, type 'sudo pccardctl insert' and let the magic happen11:16
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jpiccolook11:17
Yorokobibut I could be speaking naively as I've not used an ethernet PCMCIA card before11:17
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RoyB72yorokobi, nothing, just get the cursor11:17
jpiccolousing xubuntu11:17
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Yorokobijpiccolo, it should be the same regardless of which Ubuntu you have11:17
YorokobiRoyB72, do you get the X cursor or the KDE cursor?11:18
RoyB72yorokobi, the usual text11:19
YorokobiRoyB72, does /var/log/Xorg.0.log give you any hints?11:20
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RoyB72yorokobi, how do I check that?11:21
Daisuke_Idowhy won't VBA work!11:21
FringeJacketDaisuke_Ido whats wrong?11:21
Daisuke_Idojust frustrated with visualboyadvance11:21
YorokobiRoyB72, 'less /var/log/Xorg.0.log'11:21
Daisuke_Idopre-feisty i had no issues11:21
jpiccoloyorokobi that didnt work11:21
Daisuke_Idonow it doesn't recognize input (any input)11:22
jpiccolopccardctl insert11:22
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RoyB72yorokobi, no such file or dir11:22
Daisuke_Idoand i know my gamepad's fine because it works great in fceu and zsnes11:22
Yorokobijpiccolo, did you get a no such command error or did it not detect the card or ???11:22
YorokobiRoyB72, 'ls /var/log | grep X'11:23
jpiccoloit didnt say anything11:23
Yorokobijpiccolo, it usually doesn't. It should activate the card, though11:23
jpiccoloi only have lo when i do ifconfig11:23
Yorokobijpiccolo, check your network settings in the System Settings to see if the adapter is listed there11:23
Daisuke_Idosudo ifup eth0?11:23
RoyB72yorokobi, nothing hapened11:24
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YorokobiRoyB72, has X worked for you at all?11:24
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YorokobiThere should be something in /var/log/ similar to Xorg.0.log11:24
arihi !!!11:24
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N6REJguys, I told kde to use digikam to open files , how do I undo that?11:25
N6REJi.e. I told kde to make digikam the default.11:25
RoyB72yorokobi, when I ls /var/log there is a file there called xorg.0.log and a lot of others11:25
arii installed super tux and planet penguin race a couple of days ago and some images doesn't seem to load. is there a way to fix it !?!11:26
Yorokobioh, so a lower-case X then.  Okay 'less /var/log/xorg.0.log' then :)11:26
knubbeis the edgy->feisty upgrade method mentioned in topic, very unstable?11:26
jpiccoloi dont see any kind of device manager11:26
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Yorokobiknubbe, the one time I used it it worked flawlessly11:26
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RoyB72yorokobi, no I wrote what u gave me earlier with uppercase then it came11:27
Daisuke_IdoN6REJ: in kcontrol (or system settings) there's an option for 'default applications'  don't know if that's what you want11:27
N6REJmaybe, it doesn't show digikam though :(11:27
Daisuke_Idoyou just don't want it being the default for image files?11:27
N6REJyeah11:27
N6REJI'm having a problem with my camera, and they want me to see if it will open in konq and I can't because I told it to always use digikam LOL11:28
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knubbeYorokobi: ok, will give it a try. the installer on the beta-cd crashed on step 4.. I havent made a clean install since the beta of 5.1011:28
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Yorokobiknubbe Woah!11:28
Yorokobiknubbe, which version are you using right now?11:28
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RoyB72yorokobi, ouch... lots of stuff "does not exist" lots of fonts dirs11:29
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Daisuke_IdoN6REJ: right click an image, go down to 'open with' and choose other11:29
N6REJok, great ty!11:29
knubbeYorokobi: 6.10 / edgy11:29
YorokobiRoyB72, fonts are no big deal. The lines with EE at the beginning are the ones to pay attention to11:29
Daisuke_Idoyou can pick and choose from there, and make it default11:29
Yorokobiknubbe, okay. When you said 5.10 I figured you were using an old version.11:30
knubbeYorokobi: but ive upgraded through apt all the time. im not sure thats very clever. lots of stuff arent working on this machine, that are bugs that are "fixed"11:30
knubbeYorokobi: ah, no :-)11:30
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Daisuke_Idopersonally i use gwenview, though i have yet to find a replacement for acdsee that's as extensible and easy to use11:31
ari!fr11:31
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:31
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ari!qc11:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:31
RoyB72yorokobi, Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! at the end11:31
RoyB72yorokobi: then Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration11:32
YorokobiRoyB72, try 'sudo dpgk-reconfigure nvidia-glx' ... or purge it and reinstall ... you could be missing more than that package but I'm not sure11:32
eeanmtexlive-pdfetex can't be installed... it has unmet deps in Feisty11:33
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Yorokobiargh11:33
eeanmI'm trying to get epstopdf11:33
Daisuke_IdoRoyB72: did you just upgrade to feisty?11:33
YorokobiRoyB72, sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx11:33
YorokobiI cannot spell today11:33
RoyB72yorokobi, how do I get out of this list, it's showing END11:33
YorokobiRoyB72, q11:34
Daisuke_IdoYorokobi: a kernel version mismatch that's going to require a new module be compiled?11:34
Daisuke_Idoi've had that twice since upgrading :\11:34
RoyB72yorokobi, done11:34
YorokobiDaisuke_Ido, twice in what?11:34
Yorokobinot a time period, but a file :)11:35
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YorokobiRoyB72, try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:35
RoyB72yorokobi, the restart command now?11:35
Daisuke_IdoYorokobi: this is a time period, each time the kernel was updated11:35
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ari!can11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about can - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
ari!ca11:36
ubotuCanadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca11:36
wolferine!11:36
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YorokobiDaisuke_Ido, I think the last time I saw something like that--and I presume you're referring to the nVidia/kernel interaction--was when I was building my own kernels and nvidia drivers from source.11:36
simbuntuhello11:36
simbuntui need some help in "C"11:37
RoyB72yorokobi, no good.. :(11:37
wolferineKernel package: 'linux-image-generic' <-- this gave me a system error during a new install of kubuntu711:38
wolferineam I doing something wrong?11:38
RoyB72yorokobi, there's another package for nvidia, but I don't remember the name, maybe that's what's needed?11:38
YorokobiOkay RoyB72 'grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf' does in say "nvidia" or "nv"11:38
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wolferineerror happened with apt-install11:39
wolferinewas unable to fetch arcives11:39
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wolferineso I have to edit my sites in a new install?11:39
RoyB72yorokobi, no such file or directory   ?11:39
YorokobiRoyB72, I have nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-kernel-common installed on my machine. Try 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kerner-common'11:39
wolferineoh wait11:39
simbuntui want to use getch and included the file "curses.h", but if every time i want to compile my source i get the following error: getch.c:(.text+0x12): undefined reference to `stdscr'11:39
N6REJ!fiesty11:40
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)11:40
wolferinemd5sum mismatch11:40
YorokobiRoyB72, are you copying & pasting or typing what you see ?11:40
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RoyB72yorokobi, typing.. working on 2 machines now11:40
wolferineso that means the CDr is a bad burn?11:40
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Yorokobisimbuntu, getch() is part of stdio.h is it not?11:40
simbuntuYorokobi: its not11:41
simbuntuYorokobi: getchar is part of stdio.h11:41
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wolferinehello?11:42
wolferineanyone11:42
Yorokobisimbuntu, okay. Its been years and years since I worked in C. I think getch/getchar was one of the functions I rewrote in ASM instead of using the ANSI C functions11:42
Yorokobiwolferine, did you add a non-standard repo recently?11:43
Sannesimbuntu: curses.h is in the package libncurses5-dev11:43
RoyB72yorokobi, done with nvidia-kernels...11:43
wolferineits a brand new install, im in the install atm11:43
YorokobiRoyB72, try restarting again :)11:43
simbuntuSanne: i installed the package, but it does not help11:43
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Sannesimbuntu: then somehow it doesn't appear to find those headers when compiling.11:44
wolferinei am prompted with a list of three kernels11:44
Yorokobiwolferine, um ... maybe one of the packages was downloaded incorrectly and just needs to be downloaded again11:44
RoyB72wrote the grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf   with uppercase X11 came back driver "nvidia"11:44
simbuntuSanne: is it possible that i have to use a different compiler than gcc?11:45
wolferineYorokobi: this is occurring each time I try (5th try now)11:45
YorokobiRoyB72, Yeah, Linux is case-sensitive11:45
Yorokobiwolferine, from a net or CD install ?11:45
Sannesimbuntu: I don't think so.11:45
simbuntuSanne: I use the following comman dto compile the source: gcc file.c -o name11:45
wolferineCD11:45
RoyB72yorokobi, well... nothing again after the restart command11:45
wolferinei just bypassed the kernel install11:46
wolferineusing the network to get it, I hope11:46
Yorokobiwolferine, you may need to re-burn the ISO or download it again and burn the newer ISO11:46
Yorokobiwolferine, or use the net :)11:46
simbuntuSanne: I try to reinstall the package, maybe it will help11:46
wolferinethe iso is coming at 1000+k11:46
Sannesimbuntu: I'm not too knowledgable with compiling, but yren't you supposed to tell the compiler where to find includes? Do you have the file /usr/include/curses.h?11:46
wolferineso ill just reburn if it doesnt work :)11:46
YorokobiRoyB72, okay ... We can probably get you back in X but without the nVidia drivers11:46
Sannesimbuntu: ok11:46
RoyB72yorokobi... that's fine with me hehe11:47
YorokobiRoyB72, are you familiar with vi/vim ?11:47
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RoyB72noyorokobi, nope.. told u, I had kubuntu for 5 days11:47
Daisuke_IdoYorokobi: pico, maybe?11:48
RoyB72yorokobi: nope11:48
YorokobiRoyB72, okay, try 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'11:48
Daisuke_Idoas good11:48
YorokobiDaisuke_Ido, I don't use either nano or pico :D11:48
Daisuke_Idoeasier for those daunted by vi(m), imo11:49
YorokobiThe more time I spend here the more I realize I've been using "old" tools. Old, but golden.11:49
RoyB72yorokobi, inside11:49
simbuntuSanne: i have thisfile but not with the path "/usr/include/curses.h"11:49
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Daisuke_Idovi(m) is great, don't get me wrong, but a bit much for a lot of users11:49
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Sannesimbuntu: where is it? It is supposed to be installed in /usr/include.11:49
YorokobiRoyB72, okay. Find the line for Driver that has "nvidia" as the value and change "nvidia" to "nv"11:50
YorokobiRoyB72, then save and quit11:50
YorokobiRoyB72, and restart kdm again11:50
CrashedHey, what's the command to display the time?11:50
LightGunhey11:50
Daisuke_Ido(save = ctrl-o, quit = ctrl-x)11:50
LightGunneed your help11:50
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YorokobiDaisuke_Ido, after I learned vim, I haven't used anything else11:51
LightGunhow can I save my nvidia-settings, so that it loads every startup11:51
YorokobiDaisuke_Ido, thanks for the assist11:51
Daisuke_Idono problem11:51
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YorokobiCrashed, from the command line/shell: date11:51
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RoyB72yorokobi, daisuke_ido, thx.. was just about to ask ;)11:51
simbuntuSanne: sorry you were write its located in /usr/include/.11:51
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Foloexhello11:51
LightGuncan somebody help me?11:52
Sannesimbuntu: ok, then try to add the following option to your compile command: -I "/usr/include"11:52
Edulixhi11:52
Daisuke_IdoLightGun: they should be saved automatically11:52
aaroncampbellcan AmaroK play video podcasts as well as audio?11:52
LightGunno, they aren't11:52
Daisuke_Idothat's odd11:52
LightGunI have to set up everything again and again11:52
EdulixI have a VCD iso image, how to play? I can use either kaffeine or vlc11:52
RoyB72yorokobi, YAAAAAYYY inside... thx a LOT11:52
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aaroncampbellThe podcast is offered as Quicktime, Theora, WMV, and Xvid11:52
Daisuke_Idonvidia settings, or x server settings?11:52
YorokobiRoyB72, you're welcome11:52
LightGunand the way it is mentioned on nvidia.com it doesn't work11:52
LightGunnvidia11:53
Daisuke_Idohmm11:53
LightGunnvidia-settings11:53
Daisuke_Idoi've never had to play with mine, so i'm not sure11:53
RoyB72brb on linux machine11:53
Foloexis there a command in kubuntu to remove grub and put the windows boot loader instead. I can't use mbrfix, I lent the cd to a friend11:53
SixFeetUnderhey everyone11:53
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LightGunI have the problem that the frequency is after reboot 60Hz and I always have to switch through nvidia-settings to 75Hz11:53
LightGunI use 975511:54
simbuntuSanne: this error message appears; the same like before getch.c:(.text+0x12): undefined reference to `stdscr'11:54
YorokobiLightGun, you can set the hsync/vsync values in the xorg.conf11:54
LightGunI have done this, it doesn't work anyways11:54
YorokobiLightGun, LCD monitor?11:55
LightGunyes11:55
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LightGunSamsung Syncmaster 931C11:55
LightGunI have created a modeline too11:55
Sannesimbuntu: hmmm, that is indeed weird. I think I have to refer you to other people more knowledgable than me, sorry.11:56
YorokobiI don't remember the option but there's "something" that will enable auto detection of h/vsync for LCDs and newer CRTs in xorg.conf11:56
LightGunDMPS?11:56
YorokobiLightGun, yes11:56
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simbuntuSanne: thanks a lot11:57
RoyB72yorokobi, can we fix the nvidia now?11:57
Daisuke_Idothat would be nice11:57
Sannesimbuntu: you're welcome, I hope you find out what's wrong.11:57
LightGunI need to save the nvidia-settings11:57
chuck_txis there a way to get a more verbose boot up to see where it is locking up?11:57
Daisuke_Idowould love to have that.  it's setting my refresh at 54, when it should either be 60 or 7511:57
Daisuke_Idochuck_tx: try alt+f1 during boot11:58
YorokobiRoyB72, probably ... You may need to purge the nvidia-* packages and reinstall them. That has worked for me in the past.11:58
LightGunthis problem I have too Daisuke_Ido11:58
chuck_txthis is the CD.  Will that work there?11:58
LightGunno; yorokobi, this is the way with the newer drivers from nvidia.com11:58
RoyB72yorokobi, so uninstall, and install?11:58
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simbuntuSanne: oh i found the problem if you are interested in the answer:  -I/usr/include -L/usr/lib -lncurses11:58
YorokobiLightGun, does the nvidia-settings command have an option to load a specific config ?11:58
Foloexanyone knows how to remove grub and restore vista's boot loader from within kunbuntu 6.10 livecd11:59
Daisuke_IdoLightGun: i'm using the same ones, so i'll take a look at the xserver config11:59
YorokobiRoyB72, more than uninstall: purge11:59
LightGunonly with nvidia-glx it works flawlessly, but then, the videos in beryl are lagging around11:59
Sannesimbuntu: ahhh, I suspected it could be something with having to need to tell where the libs are also, I was just investigating :). Glad you found it, thanks for the followup.11:59
Slasheranyone know a good remote access program for kubuntu? the vnc thing that came with it crashed too much so i removed it lol11:59
RoyB72yorokobi, so I purge, then install without logging off?12:00
Daisuke_IdoLightGun: you feel safe editing xorg.conf?12:00
YorokobiRoyB72, do you have synaptic or kynaptic installed by chance ? I don't want to do this with (in)adept12:00
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LightGunSlasher, look at www.cspace.in12:00
YorokobiSlasher, NX works pretty well12:00
RoyB72got synaptic, but already started in adept12:00
YorokobiNX uses SSH tunnels and X11 forwarding. Secure, fast, easy12:00
LightGun@Daisuke, yes, I can edit it quite well12:01
YorokobiRoyB72, quit out of adept12:01
Slasherdo you have any tutorials?12:01
Yorokobiand start synaptic12:01
Daisuke_IdoLightGun: i'll be right back, going to see if this works.  if it does, i think we have it fixed12:01
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RoyB72yorokobi, and enter synaptic?12:01
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premier_hello, Im trying to install a tarball, but I wont install because I need a c++ compiler, so I go to apt-get and aptitude to install g++, but they both ask for the edgy CD. I dont have it. How can I force them to get the packages from repositories?12:01
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YorokobiRoyB72, yes12:01
Daisuke_Idothen again...12:02
RoyB72yorokobi, done12:02
N6REJoff to let the upgrade happen.12:02
simbuntubye12:02
YorokobiRoyB72, click the search button, type in "nvidia-" (w/o quotes) and change the drop-down to Names then click search12:02
RoyB72yorokobi.. done12:03
YorokobiRoyB72, Right click the nvidia-* packages that have green boxes and choose Mark For Complete Removal12:03
YorokobiThen click the Apply button12:03
Daisuke_IdoLightGun: are you using DVI?12:04
RoyB72yorokobi hmm.. it want to remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic12:04
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LightGunyes, I use DVI12:04
RoyB72yorokobi, when I do that on nvidia-kernel-common12:05
YorokobiRoyB72, hmmm for now, leave nvdidia-kernel-common12:05
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YorokobiRight-click and Unmark12:05
YorokobiRoyB72, and hopefully you clicked cancel on the pop-up :)12:05
RoyB72yorokobi.. k, then it's just 2 packages, apply? (yes I did)12:05
Daisuke_Idothat may be why it's not saving it, i just switched to 75hz in the nvidia settings12:06
YorokobiRoyB72, yes12:06
Daisuke_Idoand it's telling me i'm at 92hz in krandrtray12:06
LightGunno, it's something other12:06
RoyB72yorokobi, done12:06
LightGunI get the right resolution and frequency but after reboot it resets everything12:06
LightGunftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/nvidia-settings-user-guide.txt12:06
LightGunthe 4. point explains the thing, but it doesn't work for me12:07
YorokobiRoyB72, okay, search for those packages again and right-click and Mark for Installation then Apply12:07
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Slasherthanks by the way, im checking out cspace now12:08
Daisuke_Idothat's weird12:08
LightGunit's quite cool slasher12:08
RoyB72yorokobi, only nvidia-glx ?12:08
Daisuke_Idonow i'm lost12:08
YorokobiRoyB72, for now12:08
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RoyB72yorokobi, done12:08
chuck_tx? If I get an "buffer I/O error on hdc logical block xxxxxx", Is that the cd being messed up?12:08
LightGunwhy are you lost Daisuke?12:08
premier_I also tried adept and synaptic.  They all ask for the edgy cd.  Why cant they just use the repositories?12:09
Daisuke_Idoi can't figure out why it wouldn't work12:09
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Flosofthey12:09
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LightGunu have a nvidia too?12:09
Daisuke_Idoyep12:09
LightGunwith 9755?12:09
Daisuke_Ido7600 gs, with a 19" lcd, 9755 drivers12:09
Flosoftanyone a solution for this problem? http://paste.florianjensen.com/?6412:10
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YorokobiDaisuke_Ido, LightGun ... DVI seems to be less flexible than dsub (less control). Have you tried using the analog cable to see if you have the same problem?12:10
LightGunand installed with envy?12:10
RoyB72yorokobi, reboot comp now?12:10
YorokobiRoyB72, no12:10
chuck_txanyone know what the buffer I/O error is a symptom of?12:10
Daisuke_IdoYorokobi: i'm more or less okay with it, just trying to help LightGun troubleshoot that12:10
LightGunmy 7600 GT has only 2 DVIs12:10
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LightGunI have AGP12:10
YorokobiRoyB72, use Alt-F2 to open a run dialog and type 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf'12:11
YorokobiRoyB72, then change the "nv" back to "nvidia" and save and close12:11
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Daisuke_IdoFlosoft: what exactly are you trying to do?12:12
RoyB72yorokobi done12:13
Flosoftwell ... these packages simply can't get configured12:13
Daisuke_Idoright12:13
jarnAdept Notifier just tells me when I have updated packages, correct?12:13
Flosofthad this since I updated to Feisty 512:13
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