| === jml [n=jml@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| doko | BenC: any news on the gelic driver? | 02:20 |
|---|---|---|
| BenC | doko: pulling in some changes now that should fix it | 02:20 |
| BenC | doing a build to test in about an hour | 02:21 |
| doko | cool | 02:21 |
| === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-180.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-73-23.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] | ||
| === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| bdmurray | BenC: there? | 06:07 |
| === Eruantalon [n=hans@5634185c.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === m0rg0th [n=manugarg@220.225.228.97] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === m0rg0th_ [n=manugarg@220.225.228.97] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === kkubasik [n=kjk38@129.22.170.98] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@18-104.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f109.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === abogani [n=abogani@adsl203-157-083.mclink.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === highvoltage [n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@78-0-149-158.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491C836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === hans [n=hans@5634185c.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491FFC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@78-0-149-158.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f109.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| Mithrandir | BenC: can you assign #98714, #96486 and #98643 to somebody on the kernel team? | 01:42 |
| === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| zul | hey | 01:55 |
| === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f109.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f109.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| bdmurray | morning | 02:40 |
| === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@83-131-37-228.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| BenC | Mithrandir: in progress | 02:53 |
| bdmurray | BenC: Does the low latency kernel have different kernel modules? | 03:01 |
| BenC | bdmurray: Nope, it's built using the -generic config, just with some options changed (HZ and PREEMPT) | 03:10 |
| bdmurray | okay I was looking at a bug where somebody wanted p4-clockmod | 03:10 |
| BenC | bdmurray: however, it's entirely possible that some modules disable themselves when CONFIG_PREEMPT=y, so that might change things unknowingly | 03:11 |
| BenC | bdmurray: probably not compatible with preempt, not to mention we close all bugs that pertain specifically to -lowlatency | 03:11 |
| BenC | it's not supported | 03:11 |
| bdmurray | close them all? is that documented? | 03:12 |
| JanC | I think maybe assigning -lowlatency bugs to a team of -lowlatency volunteers (if those exist) might be more useful ? | 03:14 |
| BenC | bdmurray: it was understood by the team before I even created the package | 03:19 |
| BenC | and I believe it is in the package name that it is unsupported | 03:19 |
| BenC | s/name/description/ | 03:19 |
| bdmurray | BenC: right my point was just that it might be worth adding to the KernelBugPolicies page | 03:20 |
| BenC | bdmurray: If they expose a real bug, have them verify it on -generic, or it can be closed | 03:20 |
| BenC | bdmurray: true, I hadn't thought about that when I wrote it | 03:20 |
| bdmurray | BenC: incidentally I can get some kernel smb error messages on my feisty system | 03:21 |
| === hans [n=hans@5634185c.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| bdmurray | smb_lookup and smb_add_request errors | 03:21 |
| BenC | passive errors, or oopses? | 03:23 |
| bdmurray | passive errors I guess, it did cause amarok to hang once | 03:25 |
| === Shoaibi [n=Shoaibi@137.101.129.4] has joined #UBUNTU-KERNEL | ||
| === ^^CatTuX^^ [n=Shoaibi@137.101.129.4] has joined #UBUNTU-KERNEL | ||
| bdmurray | BenC: does passive errors mean that are harmless? | 04:10 |
| BenC | yeah | 04:10 |
| BenC | like just kmsg traffic as opposed to "oh damn, the machine is going down" :) | 04:10 |
| bdmurray | okay, no bug then. so people won't have to see what music I have. ;) | 04:11 |
| BenC | lol | 04:11 |
| bdmurray | well, some of the songs were disturbing or revealing | 04:11 |
| kylem | er? | 04:12 |
| bdmurray | well, I'm certainly not gonna say. ;) | 04:13 |
| kylem | lol | 04:13 |
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === spodzone [n=spodzone@gleann.sty.nu] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === ^^CatTuX^^ is away: I am tired, exhausted, tensed, angry. | ||
| === ^^CatTuX^^ is away: I am tired, exhausted, tensed, angry. | ||
| mjg59 | ^^CatTuX^^: Please don't use public away messages. They're unnecessarily distracting. | 04:29 |
| ^^CatTuX^^ | ooopppsssss sorry, okay | 04:30 |
| mjg59 | Thanks! | 04:31 |
| === sacater [n=sacater@host86-136-102-196.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === sacater [n=sacater@host86-136-102-196.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === ^^CatTuX^^ [n=Shoaibi@137.101.129.99] has joined #UBUNTU-KERNEL | ||
| === hans [n=hans@5634185c.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === abogani [n=abogani@adsl203-157-083.mclink.it] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] | ||
| === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@pmjdebruijn.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === ChMOD [i=ca53ad9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-da688b88e28427a7] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === Razor44 [n=kathy@ipa7.26.91.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| bdmurray | somebody is reporting that some of their thinkpad special keys don't work after suspend, would that be a kernel bug? | 06:35 |
| bdmurray | or hotkey-setup? | 06:36 |
| === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@pmjdebruijn.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-75-254.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === eean [n=ian@amarok/developer/eean] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| eean | I did some updates with Feisty, now I get kernel panics on startup | 06:49 |
| === ScottK [n=ScottK@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Konversation] | ||
| eean | of the Unable to mount root fs variety | 06:49 |
| eean | its still on a kernel that worked before | 06:51 |
| eean | .20-12 | 06:51 |
| BenC | eean: probably need kernel 2.6.20-13 | 07:01 |
| === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@pmjdebruijn.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| BenC | bdmurray: it's likely a BIOS bug, but I've seen the same reports (it's a dupe, I assigned to ubuntu-kernel-acpi team) | 07:01 |
| bdmurray | BenC: okay thanks | 07:02 |
| eean | BenC: another user told me they had the same problem | 07:02 |
| eean | /etc/initramfs/modules doesn't have what it needs apparently | 07:03 |
| BenC | eean: Then they probably need the same kernel update :) | 07:03 |
| eean | its not a kernel issue | 07:03 |
| eean | he couldn't boot any of his kernels | 07:03 |
| BenC | not having modules doesn't cause a kernel panic | 07:03 |
| bdmurray | the bug I was looking at was bug 98793 | 07:03 |
| eean | yes it does | 07:03 |
| eean | if you can't access the hard drive | 07:03 |
| BenC | eean: yes, I know, there was a kernel oops that was causing people to drop to a busybox shell | 07:03 |
| pkl_ | eean: as BenC says it may be a libata problem. However, if you replaced your grub, and/or updated your fstab, this could also cause problems. | 07:03 |
| eean | even without a root=? | 07:03 |
| eean | I might have replaced my grub | 07:04 |
| eean | I updated feisty | 07:04 |
| BenC | eean: if there's no root= in the kernel command line, then that's a whole different issue | 07:04 |
| eean | a bunch of packages | 07:04 |
| BenC | not even related initramfs modules | 07:04 |
| eean | BenC: no I mean, can you get a busybox without a valid root | 07:04 |
| BenC | yes | 07:04 |
| eean | BenC: ok, but .20-12 was working for me before | 07:04 |
| eean | I had booted from it several times | 07:05 |
| pkl_ | eean: you have to check any files using /dev/hdx have been correctly changed to /dev/sdx (or use labels). | 07:05 |
| BenC | check your /proc/cmdline | 07:05 |
| BenC | check dmesg | 07:05 |
| BenC | check lsmod, check lspci | 07:05 |
| eean | pkl_: my fstab is fine, I've cated it with grub | 07:05 |
| eean | lol how do I check dmesg ;) | 07:05 |
| BenC | eean: fstab means nothing | 07:05 |
| BenC | it's root= in grub's menu.lst that counts for this problem | 07:06 |
| eean | I can see dmesg when I boot, but I can't scroll up after a kernel panic | 07:06 |
| eean | and I have it set correctly | 07:06 |
| BenC | eean: dd if=/proc/kmsg of=/tmp/dmesg bs=1 & | 07:06 |
| BenC | eean: Then you can more /tmp/dmesg | 07:06 |
| eean | with what?! | 07:06 |
| eean | kernel panic! | 07:06 |
| BenC | if it's a kernel panic, then you aren't at a busy box shell | 07:06 |
| eean | no shit ;) | 07:06 |
| BenC | then you are arguing the wrong case | 07:07 |
| BenC | if the kernel complains "panic: no root, check root=" or some such, then you aren't even passing it an initramfs | 07:07 |
| eean | yes I am :| | 07:07 |
| eean | I see it in grub | 07:07 |
| BenC | then the initrd is broken | 07:07 |
| BenC | sudo update-initramfs -u | 07:07 |
| eean | yes thats what the other use told me to do | 07:08 |
| eean | other *user | 07:08 |
| eean | like I said, I don't think its a kernel issue | 07:08 |
| eean | can I burn cd iso on to dvd-r's? | 07:08 |
| pkl_ | can you take a digital photo of the problem, and raise a bug. | 07:08 |
| eean | suppose I could | 07:09 |
| eean | wait no, my digital camera doesn't work | 07:09 |
| === newz2000 [n=matt@unaffiliated/newz2000] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| BenC | it's not a bug in the kernel for sure | 07:09 |
| pkl_ | mobile phone with camera capability? | 07:09 |
| BenC | eean: did you run the update-initramfs command? or do you not have an older kernel to boot from? | 07:10 |
| eean | it costs some unreasonable amount to email them and I don't have a connector :) | 07:10 |
| eean | BenC: I don't have an older kernel to run from | 07:10 |
| newz2000 | hi crimsun, was wondering if you may be able to help me with bug # 92171 sometime when you have a chance | 07:10 |
| eean | why I need to burn a cd | 07:10 |
| eean | but I have no cd-r's :) | 07:10 |
| eean | just dvd-rs | 07:10 |
| BenC | eean: dvd-r should work so long as the drive in that system can read them | 07:10 |
| eean | well sure | 07:10 |
| eean | I wonder if I could do a network boot, that would be nifty... | 07:11 |
| pkl_ | network boots are not trivial at the best of times, especially if you don't actually know what's gone wrong :) | 07:13 |
| eean | oh well I won't try too hard ;) | 07:13 |
| pkl_ | best to use boot from a liveCD. | 07:13 |
| bdmurray | BenC: the bug I was looking at was 98793 what should that be a dupe of? | 07:22 |
| === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| BenC | bdmurray: Please assign bugs to ubuntu-kernel-team once you Confirm them | 07:26 |
| BenC | bdmurray: I'll check for the dupe in a sec | 07:26 |
| eean | BenC: well k3b says it has to be a cd-r :/ | 07:28 |
| BenC | eean: cdrecord dev=/dev/scd0 foo.iso | 07:29 |
| eean | heh ok, I hope you know better then k3b :) | 07:30 |
| eean | yea it errored out before writing | 07:32 |
| === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| eean | what should be in my /etc/initramfs-tools/modules | 07:55 |
| eean | ? | 07:55 |
| BenC | eean: nothing | 07:56 |
| BenC | crimsun: patches applied | 07:56 |
| BenC | eean: /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf should have MODULES=most | 07:56 |
| BenC | your problem has nothing to do with missing modules anyway | 07:56 |
| eean | but update-initramfs will work anyways? | 07:57 |
| BenC | that's how Ubuntu works by default | 07:57 |
| eean | well it didn't have MODULES=most | 07:58 |
| BenC | what did it have? | 07:58 |
| eean | nothing | 07:58 |
| eean | just comments | 07:58 |
| BenC | egrep -v '^(#|$)' /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf | 07:58 |
| BenC | Can you show me the output of that command? | 07:59 |
| eean | already rebooting, just a sec if it doesn't work | 07:59 |
| eean | ok not working :) | 07:59 |
| eean | well this will take a while actually, gentoo's install cd takes a while | 08:00 |
| eean | BenC: MODULES=most, BUSYBOX=y, DEVICE=eth0, NFSROOT=auto | 08:04 |
| === sacater [n=sacater@host86-136-102-196.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| eean | except on seperate lines of course | 08:04 |
| BenC | eean: Then it doesn't have just comments | 08:10 |
| BenC | eean: ls -l /boot/initrd.img-* | 08:11 |
| eean | we're talking about two different files ;) | 08:11 |
| BenC | BenC> eean: /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf should have MODULES=most | 08:11 |
| BenC | no, I was talking about that file | 08:11 |
| eean | ah | 08:11 |
| eean | well that wasn't my question | 08:11 |
| eean | anyways, its workign now :) | 08:12 |
| BenC | so it booted properly? | 08:12 |
| eean | yes | 08:12 |
| BenC | ok | 08:12 |
| eean | could be the extra modules I added to the modules file | 08:12 |
| eean | or maybe just running it again | 08:12 |
| BenC | has nothing to do with that | 08:12 |
| BenC | that panic wont happen because of missing modules | 08:12 |
| eean | so just running it again then | 08:12 |
| BenC | it's because the initramfs didn't mount | 08:12 |
| BenC | right, most likely | 08:13 |
| eean | before I didn't mount /boot into my chroot | 08:13 |
| eean | so running update-initramfs did nothing :) | 08:13 |
| BenC | yeah, that'll do it too :) | 08:14 |
| BenC | make sure you have enough freespace on your /boot | 08:14 |
| BenC | that can cause improper initrd.img creation as well | 08:14 |
| eean | yes there's like 40mb free | 08:15 |
| eean | I wonder what caused the issue to begin with | 08:16 |
| BenC | if it fails, then the install/update will tell you | 08:16 |
| BenC | could have been a million things | 08:17 |
| BenC | just keep an eye on it, if it happens again try to collect as much info as possible about your setup and anything leading up to it | 08:17 |
| eean | ok | 08:17 |
| BenC | mjg59: ping...memstick is running out of time :) | 08:27 |
| === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-075-111.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| bdmurray | Are there multiple chipsets that use ipw3945? | 08:54 |
| === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| BenC | bdmurray: there's only two PCI ID's that can use ipw3945 | 09:29 |
| BenC | both are called "Intel Pro Wireless 3945" | 09:29 |
| bdmurray | I've seen some bugs regarding the ipw3945 but my laptop with one seems fine | 09:30 |
| BenC | 9 times out of 10, it's because they don't have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-xx-generic installed | 09:32 |
| BenC | have them do "sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic" | 09:32 |
| BenC | those meta packages will make sure they work over updates | 09:33 |
| bdmurray | okay | 09:36 |
| === sacater [n=sacater@host86-136-102-196.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-180.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === sacater [n=sacater@host86-136-102-196.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| JanC | I have been talking with several other people about feisty, and one thing that (almost) everybody seems to see is that there is more "stuttering" of applications compared to previous Ubuntu-versions | 10:30 |
| JanC | did anything in the kernel change which could cause that ? | 10:30 |
| Mithrandir | JanC: we have an libX11 fix which should fix most of that, I think. At least if this is for X apps. | 10:31 |
| JanC | this is mostly a feeling, as nobody has exact data on this (how could we get that?), but considering that I have seen so many people express this... | 10:31 |
| JanC | hm, it might be only for X apps | 10:32 |
| JanC | if music/media players can be infected because they use X | 10:33 |
| Mithrandir | bug #88815 might be the one. | 10:34 |
| Mithrandir | if you're on i386, can you try tepsipakki's packages from http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg/ and see if they help for you? | 10:34 |
| JanC | personally I even see this when doing upgrades using synaptic, which may cause other applications to stall since using feisty... | 10:35 |
| JanC | I'm using the i386 -generic kernel yes | 10:35 |
| JanC | I'll try that | 10:35 |
| Mithrandir | thanks. | 10:35 |
| === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| JanC | hm, will that work with a closed source driver ? | 10:36 |
| === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| Mithrandir | shouldn't matter. | 10:36 |
| === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f109.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| crimsun | newz2000: I'll do some alsa triaging tonight - been very busy this week | 11:07 |
| newz2000 | crimsun: no doubt. Let me know what I can do to help. I'm obviously very interested in getting my sound back and am eager to help. | 11:08 |
| === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| newz2000 | For me, this is a show stopper and I will likely go back to Edgy if thats whats needed to have sound. | 11:09 |
| Lure | crimsun: do you also look at sound issues after resume, like bug 94036 ? | 11:10 |
| crimsun | Lure: it's lower priority atm, but eventually | 11:10 |
| Lure | crimsun: ok, no problem - let me know if more info or testing with patched kernel is required | 11:11 |
| JanC | Mithrandir: this seems to make a *real* difference | 11:23 |
| Mithrandir | JanC: it made your system much happier? | 11:23 |
| === JanC is now listening to music without hickups while under a system load of > 5 | ||
| Mithrandir | tepsipakki: ^^ | 11:24 |
| JanC | I can ask some other people to test if you want | 11:24 |
| Mithrandir | if you'd like, but please make sure to add your experiences on the bug. | 11:27 |
| JanC | hm, what was the bug # again :) | 11:35 |
| Mithrandir | 88815 | 11:35 |
| === EtienneG [n=etienne@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| === EtienneG [n=etienne@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!