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ypsilahungaria?12:14
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Tonio_Lure: ping ?12:41
Tonio_just to be sure I'm not crazy12:41
Tonio_Lure: krita has been removed from the desktop cd ?12:41
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nixternalI lost everyone of my images dangit, and I have no clue how01:25
nixternalso all of my photographs are gone :(01:26
nixternalI am glad I uploaded them to my Gallery box a while back, but all of my artwork stuff I did is gone, even my killer gotchis01:26
Jucato:(01:33
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Jucatomoin bddebian01:40
bddebianHello Jucato :-)01:41
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DaSkreechHobbsee: hi06:03
Hobbseeheya DaSkreech!06:05
DaSkreechHow are you?06:05
Hobbseegood - went shopping :)06:05
DaSkreechretail therapy :)06:07
Hobbseehehe06:07
Hobbseeonly occasionally06:07
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Jucatohi Hobbsee!06:45
Hobbseeheya Jucato!06:45
JucatoHobbsee: made a debdiff for umbrello last night... still waiting for Riddell to awake from his deep slumber :)06:46
Hobbseenice :)06:46
Hobbseeprobably irn bru induced slumber06:46
Hobbseeor beer06:46
poningruwhat?06:46
poningrubeer?06:46
Jucatoheheh :)06:46
poningruwhere?06:46
=== Jucato probably owes Riddell a lot of irn bru :)
JucatoHobbsee: http://jucato.org/stuff/kdesdk_3.5.6.debdiff just in case you're interested to see (just in case :P)06:48
Hobbseeright06:48
Jucatonext up... trying on a new version of filelight... :)06:49
HobbseeJucato: should be 07_umbrello.diff06:49
Jucatoeek?!06:49
Hobbseeif there's no more descriptive name for it - (and/or list in the changelog of what it fixes06:49
Hobbseewell, usually06:49
JucatoI just followed the pattern of the ones in debian/patches06:49
Hobbseeah, right, so that package is different06:50
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Jucatojust 1202 lines to read through :)06:51
Hobbseelooks big, but i dont know anything about it :)06:51
Hobbseewould help if it was actaully said what it fixes..06:51
Jucatoah... actually, um...06:51
Jucatoit sort of upgrade umbrello from 1.5.6 to 1.5.6106:51
Jucatobut Riddell said not to bump the VERSION file anymore06:52
JucatoHobbsee: http://uml.sourceforge.net/download.php <-- based on that, I made a checkout of umbrello for that revision only (r631974)06:52
Hobbseeahh, i see06:53
Hobbseepersonally, i'd probably add:  Bugs fixed:06:53
Hobbsee    *  Improved loading of files from older versions06:53
Hobbsee    * Fixed crash creating various types of associations (140693, 141073, 141106, 141277)06:53
Hobbsee    * Fixed unclickable diagrams (140870)06:53
Hobbseein the changelog06:53
Hobbseebut see what Riddell says06:53
Jucatothanks for the suggestion... I actually didn't really know what to put in the changelog...06:54
Hobbseemerging's a pain if you cant tell what the diff was for06:54
=== Jucato thinks the hardest part about packaging properly is determining the correct text to go, in the correct place...
=== Jucato takes a note of that and blogs about it
Jucatos/blogs/will\ blog06:55
Jucatohm... might be putting my MOTU studies on hold for a week... holy week... :/06:56
DaSkreechpartly week or the wholy week?06:57
Jucatolol06:59
Jucato:P06:59
Jucatopartly holy week :)06:59
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DaSkreechGnight all07:46
Jucatog'night DaSkreech07:47
DaSkreechGood night07:47
DaSkreechwe all love all of you guys :-)07:48
Jucatog'night DaSkreech07:48
Hobbseenight DaSkreech!07:48
Jucato:D07:48
DaSkreechOne question about the upgrade tool07:49
Jucatog'night DaSkreech :P07:49
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DaSkreechIt says I have to close all my applications07:49
DaSkreechIs it serious?07:50
=== Jucato never had that...
DaSkreechDid you get a window outlining which packages would change?07:51
Jucatoiirc, yes07:52
DaSkreechRight that box says in Bold To Prevent Dataloss close all open documents and applications07:54
DaSkreechI get the documents07:54
DaSkreechWhy the apps?07:54
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stdinhmm, shouldn't the "Help -> Report Bug..." feature go to launchpad.net, not bugs.kde.org?09:44
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Tonio__hi from zagreb ;)09:48
Jucatoooh hi Tonio__09:49
Jucatotogether with Lure?09:49
Tonio__nope still waiting for him :)09:49
Tonio__I'm in the hotel room polishing the presentation09:49
Jucatoah :)09:49
giangyyawn09:49
Tonio__I'll have to do it with OOo :(09:49
giangy'morning09:49
giangyhi Tonio__, Jucato :)09:50
Tonio__there is a bug in the libpng stuff, resized imaged look ugly in kpresenter09:50
Jucatohi giangy09:50
Tonio__hey giangy09:50
Tonio__conference starts in 10 minutes, I have to go....09:50
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Tonio__hello _Sime_10:28
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hungerWhy do KDE programs use too big fonts?10:59
hungerGnome apps are fine and the fonts in the fontconfig dialog of KDE does show the proper fonts as well.11:00
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Tm_Terr11:15
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hungerfilelist in kdevelop is borked, too.11:39
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Riddellbah, guidance power manager broke12:07
sebasI've attached a patch to the BR12:08
sebasIt might not fix it, but the indentation was wrong anyway.12:08
sebasIf that patch doesn't help, we'll just catch the exception, it's not a critical path12:08
stdinRiddell: quick question: shouldn't the "Help -> Report Bug..." feature go to launchpad.net, not bugs.kde.org?12:08
Riddellstdin: no, it should have an algorithm in it to determine if the bug is an ubuntu issur or an upstream issue and redirect appropriately12:12
stdinRiddell: hmm, that doesn't sound like an easy thing to do12:12
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Riddellsebas: nope, doesn't help :(12:15
Riddelland there seems to be a problem with apport in there too12:16
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sebasRiddell: You can reproduce it?12:17
Riddellsebas: yes12:17
sebasThat offset problem?12:17
sebasI've seen it more than once12:17
sebasRiddell: Attached an exceptionhandler, care to try?12:20
Riddellsebas: that fixes it12:23
Riddellseems a bit of a cheat though :)12:23
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Riddellsebas: it doesn't run the bit of code under "# add list of governators"12:25
Riddellsebas: it'll be affecting laptops that don't have cpufreq then12:25
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sebas+        if self.hasCpuFreq:12:30
sebas+            self._updateCpuWidgets()12:30
sebasLines 663 and 66412:30
sebasCan you try this?12:30
Riddellthat is exactle the patch I just attached to bug 9918912:31
ubotuMalone bug 99189 in Ubuntu "numerous crashes with 6.10" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9918912:31
Riddellnope12:31
Riddellbug 9919812:31
ubotuMalone bug 99198 in kde-guidance "kde-guidance-powermanager-0.8.0 fails with AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'setChecked'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9919812:31
sebasOk, he answered. I'll commit.12:33
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Riddellsebas: I'll upload with the indentation patch and the if self.hasCpuFreq: patch12:39
sebasRiddell: Lovely12:39
sebasShould be exactly the svn version then anyway12:40
Riddellsebas: your patch is wrong12:47
Riddellself.hasCpuFreq: -> self.powermanager.hasCpuFreq:12:48
sebasRiddell: Ouch, good point. Fixing.12:49
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hungerAnyone else having too big fonts in KDE apps (but not in the font config app nor non-kde apps)?12:56
Riddellhunger: not I, check what the DPI is set to01:05
hungerRiddell: 75dpi01:09
hungerSeems way too low.01:09
RiddellI have 96x9701:12
Riddellhunger: how recent is this?01:12
Riddellmight be a guidance 0.8 thing01:12
hungerRiddell: Did not have it yesterday.01:13
Riddellhunger: seems like a likely candidate then01:13
Riddellhunger: do you have /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40guidance-displayconfig_restore ?01:13
hungerRiddell: Yes.01:14
Riddellhunger: it's /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore which sets the DPI, I guess you could put a bunch of debugging output and run it to see what it's doing01:15
hungerOnly the KDE apps are effected. The fontconfig in guidance is not.01:16
hungerBRB01:16
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hungerHey, I removed 40guidance-displayconfig_restore and now all is well again.01:17
hungerxdpyinfo still reports 75dpi...01:18
sebashunger: Set dpi to something else in kcontrol | Display module01:18
sebasHumm.01:18
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mhbgood afternoon01:19
hungersebas: I used to have it set 120dpi, but that screwed up too much. So I left it at ubuntu's default.01:20
sebashunger: Ah, ok.01:22
sebas Sime dealt with the dpi stuff, so he might be interested in your findings01:22
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hungerIt is really interessting that this does not effect gnome apps nor the font config app:-)01:23
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Riddellgnome uses a fixed dpi, KDE naively uses the X dpi01:26
hungerRiddell: Hmmm... that has not changed (according to xdpyinfo).01:26
Riddellwhat hasn't?01:27
hungerRiddell: DPI as reported by xdpyinfo.01:27
Riddellbetween what?01:27
hungerI got 75dpi when I had 40guidance-displayconfig_restore active (big fonts) and now I still have 75dpi with it inactive (normal fonts).01:28
hungerBoth are reported by xdpyinfo.01:29
Riddelltry adding debugging to the last line of FixXorgDPI in /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore to see what dpi it sets01:29
RiddellI can't see anything between the old and new versions of that script which would change the dpi though01:29
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Hobbseehttp://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/  - will we grab these fixes?04:05
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RiddellHobbsee: tonio was talking about it, not sure if he did04:06
Hobbseeright04:06
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david_Anyone no why linux generic kernel would cause my laptop to slow down. When I unplug the power it is normal. Seems like the power saving is backwards.05:05
david_i386 kernel is fine.05:05
david_Been doing this since 6.10 ubunut/kubuntu05:05
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david_Just installed feisty in hopes of a change but no.05:06
Hobbseeheya Jucato05:07
Hobbseedavid_: #ubuntu+105:07
david_I there now thanks.05:08
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JucatoHobbsee: is the great Riddel around? :)05:10
HobbseeJucato: he was about an hour ago.  no idea about now05:11
Jucatoah ok. thanks :)05:11
JucatoRiddell: good day! :)05:11
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lucas_hi07:50
lucas_Does any one here has heard about http://build.opensuse.org/07:50
lucas_They call this the opensuse build services07:51
lucas_If any of your plans to use it ?07:52
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ryanakcacan someone help me test our kolab server?11:31
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ryanakcaerm... is kontact broken? it refuses to start...11:38
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ryanakcahttp://pastebin.ca/418860   it just hangs at that11:53
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