[12:14] <ypsila> hungaria?
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[12:41] <Tonio_> Lure: ping ?
[12:41] <Tonio_> just to be sure I'm not crazy
[12:41] <Tonio_> Lure: krita has been removed from the desktop cd ?
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[01:25] <nixternal> I lost everyone of my images dangit, and I have no clue how
[01:26] <nixternal> so all of my photographs are gone :(
[01:26] <nixternal> I am glad I uploaded them to my Gallery box a while back, but all of my artwork stuff I did is gone, even my killer gotchis
[01:33] <Jucato> :(
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[01:40] <Jucato> moin bddebian
[01:41] <bddebian> Hello Jucato :-)
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[06:03] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: hi
[06:05] <Hobbsee> heya DaSkreech!
[06:05] <DaSkreech> How are you?
[06:05] <Hobbsee> good - went shopping :)
[06:07] <DaSkreech> retail therapy :)
[06:07] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:07] <Hobbsee> only occasionally
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[06:45] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee!
[06:45] <Hobbsee> heya Jucato!
[06:46] <Jucato> Hobbsee: made a debdiff for umbrello last night... still waiting for Riddell to awake from his deep slumber :)
[06:46] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[06:46] <Hobbsee> probably irn bru induced slumber
[06:46] <Hobbsee> or beer
[06:46] <poningru> what?
[06:46] <poningru> beer?
[06:46] <Jucato> heheh :)
[06:46] <poningru> where?
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[06:48] <Jucato> Hobbsee: http://jucato.org/stuff/kdesdk_3.5.6.debdiff just in case you're interested to see (just in case :P)
[06:48] <Hobbsee> right
[06:49] <Jucato> next up... trying on a new version of filelight... :)
[06:49] <Hobbsee> Jucato: should be 07_umbrello.diff
[06:49] <Jucato> eek?!
[06:49] <Hobbsee> if there's no more descriptive name for it - (and/or list in the changelog of what it fixes
[06:49] <Hobbsee> well, usually
[06:49] <Jucato> I just followed the pattern of the ones in debian/patches
[06:50] <Hobbsee> ah, right, so that package is different
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[06:51] <Jucato> just 1202 lines to read through :)
[06:51] <Hobbsee> looks big, but i dont know anything about it :)
[06:51] <Hobbsee> would help if it was actaully said what it fixes..
[06:51] <Jucato> ah... actually, um...
[06:51] <Jucato> it sort of upgrade umbrello from 1.5.6 to 1.5.61
[06:52] <Jucato> but Riddell said not to bump the VERSION file anymore
[06:52] <Jucato> Hobbsee: http://uml.sourceforge.net/download.php <-- based on that, I made a checkout of umbrello for that revision only (r631974)
[06:53] <Hobbsee> ahh, i see
[06:53] <Hobbsee> personally, i'd probably add:  Bugs fixed:
[06:53] <Hobbsee>     *  Improved loading of files from older versions
[06:53] <Hobbsee>     * Fixed crash creating various types of associations (140693, 141073, 141106, 141277)
[06:53] <Hobbsee>     * Fixed unclickable diagrams (140870)
[06:53] <Hobbsee> in the changelog
[06:53] <Hobbsee> but see what Riddell says
[06:54] <Jucato> thanks for the suggestion... I actually didn't really know what to put in the changelog...
[06:54] <Hobbsee> merging's a pain if you cant tell what the diff was for
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=== Jucato takes a note of that and blogs about it
[06:55] <Jucato> s/blogs/will\ blog
[06:56] <Jucato> hm... might be putting my MOTU studies on hold for a week... holy week... :/
[06:57] <DaSkreech> partly week or the wholy week?
[06:59] <Jucato> lol
[06:59] <Jucato> :P
[06:59] <Jucato> partly holy week :)
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[07:46] <DaSkreech> Gnight all
[07:47] <Jucato> g'night DaSkreech
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Good night
[07:48] <DaSkreech> we all love all of you guys :-)
[07:48] <Jucato> g'night DaSkreech
[07:48] <Hobbsee> night DaSkreech!
[07:48] <Jucato> :D
[07:49] <DaSkreech> One question about the upgrade tool
[07:49] <Jucato> g'night DaSkreech :P
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[07:49] <DaSkreech> It says I have to close all my applications
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Is it serious?
=== Jucato never had that...
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Did you get a window outlining which packages would change?
[07:52] <Jucato> iirc, yes
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Right that box says in Bold To Prevent Dataloss close all open documents and applications
[07:54] <DaSkreech> I get the documents
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Why the apps?
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[09:44] <stdin> hmm, shouldn't the "Help -> Report Bug..." feature go to launchpad.net, not bugs.kde.org?
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[09:48] <Tonio__> hi from zagreb ;)
[09:49] <Jucato> ooh hi Tonio__
[09:49] <Jucato> together with Lure?
[09:49] <Tonio__> nope still waiting for him :)
[09:49] <Tonio__> I'm in the hotel room polishing the presentation
[09:49] <Jucato> ah :)
[09:49] <giangy> yawn
[09:49] <Tonio__> I'll have to do it with OOo :(
[09:49] <giangy> 'morning
[09:50] <giangy> hi Tonio__, Jucato :)
[09:50] <Tonio__> there is a bug in the libpng stuff, resized imaged look ugly in kpresenter
[09:50] <Jucato> hi giangy
[09:50] <Tonio__> hey giangy
[09:50] <Tonio__> conference starts in 10 minutes, I have to go....
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[10:28] <Tonio__> hello _Sime_
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[10:59] <hunger> Why do KDE programs use too big fonts?
[11:00] <hunger> Gnome apps are fine and the fonts in the fontconfig dialog of KDE does show the proper fonts as well.
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[11:15] <Tm_T> err
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[11:39] <hunger> filelist in kdevelop is borked, too.
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[12:07] <Riddell> bah, guidance power manager broke
[12:08] <sebas> I've attached a patch to the BR
[12:08] <sebas> It might not fix it, but the indentation was wrong anyway.
[12:08] <sebas> If that patch doesn't help, we'll just catch the exception, it's not a critical path
[12:08] <stdin> Riddell: quick question: shouldn't the "Help -> Report Bug..." feature go to launchpad.net, not bugs.kde.org?
[12:12] <Riddell> stdin: no, it should have an algorithm in it to determine if the bug is an ubuntu issur or an upstream issue and redirect appropriately
[12:12] <stdin> Riddell: hmm, that doesn't sound like an easy thing to do
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[12:15] <Riddell> sebas: nope, doesn't help :(
[12:16] <Riddell> and there seems to be a problem with apport in there too
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[12:17] <sebas> Riddell: You can reproduce it?
[12:17] <Riddell> sebas: yes
[12:17] <sebas> That offset problem?
[12:17] <sebas> I've seen it more than once
[12:20] <sebas> Riddell: Attached an exceptionhandler, care to try?
[12:23] <Riddell> sebas: that fixes it
[12:23] <Riddell> seems a bit of a cheat though :)
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[12:25] <Riddell> sebas: it doesn't run the bit of code under "# add list of governators"
[12:25] <Riddell> sebas: it'll be affecting laptops that don't have cpufreq then
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[12:30] <sebas> +        if self.hasCpuFreq:
[12:30] <sebas> +            self._updateCpuWidgets()
[12:30] <sebas> Lines 663 and 664
[12:30] <sebas> Can you try this?
[12:31] <Riddell> that is exactle the patch I just attached to bug 99189
[12:31] <ubotu> Malone bug 99189 in Ubuntu "numerous crashes with 6.10" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99189
[12:31] <Riddell> nope
[12:31] <Riddell> bug 99198
[12:31] <ubotu> Malone bug 99198 in kde-guidance "kde-guidance-powermanager-0.8.0 fails with AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'setChecked'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99198
[12:33] <sebas> Ok, he answered. I'll commit.
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[12:39] <Riddell> sebas: I'll upload with the indentation patch and the if self.hasCpuFreq: patch
[12:39] <sebas> Riddell: Lovely
[12:40] <sebas> Should be exactly the svn version then anyway
[12:47] <Riddell> sebas: your patch is wrong
[12:48] <Riddell> self.hasCpuFreq: -> self.powermanager.hasCpuFreq:
[12:49] <sebas> Riddell: Ouch, good point. Fixing.
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[12:56] <hunger> Anyone else having too big fonts in KDE apps (but not in the font config app nor non-kde apps)?
[01:05] <Riddell> hunger: not I, check what the DPI is set to
[01:09] <hunger> Riddell: 75dpi
[01:09] <hunger> Seems way too low.
[01:12] <Riddell> I have 96x97
[01:12] <Riddell> hunger: how recent is this?
[01:12] <Riddell> might be a guidance 0.8 thing
[01:13] <hunger> Riddell: Did not have it yesterday.
[01:13] <Riddell> hunger: seems like a likely candidate then
[01:13] <Riddell> hunger: do you have /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40guidance-displayconfig_restore ?
[01:14] <hunger> Riddell: Yes.
[01:15] <Riddell> hunger: it's /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore which sets the DPI, I guess you could put a bunch of debugging output and run it to see what it's doing
[01:16] <hunger> Only the KDE apps are effected. The fontconfig in guidance is not.
[01:16] <hunger> BRB
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[01:17] <hunger> Hey, I removed 40guidance-displayconfig_restore and now all is well again.
[01:18] <hunger> xdpyinfo still reports 75dpi...
[01:18] <sebas> hunger: Set dpi to something else in kcontrol | Display module
[01:18] <sebas> Humm.
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[01:19] <mhb> good afternoon
[01:20] <hunger> sebas: I used to have it set 120dpi, but that screwed up too much. So I left it at ubuntu's default.
[01:22] <sebas> hunger: Ah, ok.
[01:22] <sebas>  Sime dealt with the dpi stuff, so he might be interested in your findings
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[01:23] <hunger> It is really interessting that this does not effect gnome apps nor the font config app:-)
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[01:26] <Riddell> gnome uses a fixed dpi, KDE naively uses the X dpi
[01:26] <hunger> Riddell: Hmmm... that has not changed (according to xdpyinfo).
[01:27] <Riddell> what hasn't?
[01:27] <hunger> Riddell: DPI as reported by xdpyinfo.
[01:27] <Riddell> between what?
[01:28] <hunger> I got 75dpi when I had 40guidance-displayconfig_restore active (big fonts) and now I still have 75dpi with it inactive (normal fonts).
[01:29] <hunger> Both are reported by xdpyinfo.
[01:29] <Riddell> try adding debugging to the last line of FixXorgDPI in /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore to see what dpi it sets
[01:29] <Riddell> I can't see anything between the old and new versions of that script which would change the dpi though
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[04:05] <Hobbsee> http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/  - will we grab these fixes?
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[04:06] <Riddell> Hobbsee: tonio was talking about it, not sure if he did
[04:06] <Hobbsee> right
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[05:05] <david_> Anyone no why linux generic kernel would cause my laptop to slow down. When I unplug the power it is normal. Seems like the power saving is backwards.
[05:05] <david_> i386 kernel is fine.
[05:05] <david_> Been doing this since 6.10 ubunut/kubuntu
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[05:06] <david_> Just installed feisty in hopes of a change but no.
[05:07] <Hobbsee> heya Jucato
[05:07] <Hobbsee> david_: #ubuntu+1
[05:08] <david_> I there now thanks.
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[05:10] <Jucato> Hobbsee: is the great Riddel around? :)
[05:11] <Hobbsee> Jucato: he was about an hour ago.  no idea about now
[05:11] <Jucato> ah ok. thanks :)
[05:11] <Jucato> Riddell: good day! :)
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[07:50] <lucas_> hi
[07:50] <lucas_> Does any one here has heard about http://build.opensuse.org/
[07:51] <lucas_> They call this the opensuse build services
[07:52] <lucas_> If any of your plans to use it ?
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[11:31] <ryanakca> can someone help me test our kolab server?
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[11:38] <ryanakca> erm... is kontact broken? it refuses to start...
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[11:53] <ryanakca> http://pastebin.ca/418860   it just hangs at that
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