[12:12] <danohuiginn> any of you folks have time to review a patch? bug 57067
[12:12] <ubotu> Malone bug 57067 in python-mysqldb "UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode certain bytes " [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57067
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[12:16] <sladen> Lure: is imbrandon doing it?
[12:18] <keescook> Lure: I tested and uploaded it too.  :)
[12:18] <imbrandon> keescook, beat me
[12:18] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:19] <keescook> :)
[12:21] <mdke> ogra: depends on your definition of "fix", but it adds an entry to the main yelp menu when edubuntu-docs is installed
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[12:54] <lamont> dear gaim, please stop &*(%)*$^(&)%*_ taking focus on startup.  kthxbye
[12:58] <imbrandon> jdub, ping ( is the config/* for planet.u.c in a bzr branch ? )
[12:59] <mdke> see wiki:PlanetUbuntu
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[01:00] <imbrandon> mdke, yea i konw that, as far as feeds , i mean more like the config/members/index.html.tmpl refrenced in the config.ini not in a normal checkout
[01:00] <mdke> right, the bzr branch doesn't have that in it
[01:00] <imbrandon> right, thats what i was wondering if that was avail in another branch
[01:00] <mdke> you can ask Spads about getting hold of a copy
[01:01] <imbrandon> k cool, i dont know Spads but i'll try to ping/email him
[01:01] <imbrandon> thanks mdke 
[01:01] <mdke> unlikely that jeff still knows, tbh
[01:01] <imbrandon> true , i just wasent sure who would short of you/corey/newzum
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[02:13] <andrewski> is there a way to get back a crash report ubuntu was submitting to launchpad? i left the launchpad page open for about 10 hours before actually submitting it and it came back "page not found". i'm hoping the crash report is stored locally?
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[02:20] <jmg> hey all
[02:20] <jmg> i need some specialist X help
[02:21] <Burgwork> jmg: this isn't really a support channel
[02:21] <jmg> #ubuntu-motu pointed me here
[02:22] <Burgwork> right
[02:22] <Burgwork> is this something to do with development of Ubuntu?
[02:22] <jmg> and i know
[02:22] <cjwatson> andrewski: should be in /var/crash/
[02:22] <jmg> the fine line between development and configuration
[02:22] <Burgwork> right
[02:22] <Burgwork> it is pretty quiet, so shoot
[02:22] <cjwatson> I think if you 'sudo touch' it then the crash reporter might try again? not sure though
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[02:23] <andrewski> cjwatson: and there it is. cheers! :D
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[02:40] <cjwatson> you're welcome
[02:41] <andrewski> cjwatson: lol, the touch idea totally worked! awesome!
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[03:52] <stdin> shouldn't the "Help -> Report Bug..." feature go to launchpad.net, not bugs.kde.org?
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[05:10] <poningru> gaah no opers?
[05:10] <poningru> we need someone in #ubuntu
[05:11] <Fujitsu> poningru: -> #ubuntu-ops
[05:11] <Fujitsu> Or call !ops in #ubuntu
[05:11] <poningru> we did
[05:11] <poningru> no one is here
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[06:30] <TheMuso> c
[06:30] <TheMuso> ugh
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[06:36] <reitblatt> latest update killed the "Access IBM" key on my thinkpad =/
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[07:41] <sanzky> hi, does anyone knows if there are any XML database servers in the ubuntu repositories?
[07:41] <Burgundavia> sanzky: huh?
[07:42] <sanzky> a xml database, like exist for example
[07:43] <sanzky> http://exist.sourceforge.net/
[07:43] <Hobbsee> sanzky: see #ubuntu - this is not a support channel.  apt-cache search xml database might bring something up.
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[07:46] <sanzky> is it possible to suggest new packages for ubuntu ? if I am not a dev ?
[07:47] <Hobbsee> sanzky: yes, info is linked off http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[07:47] <Burgundavia> sanzky: yes
[07:47] <Hobbsee> iirc
[07:47] <sanzky> thanks
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[08:22] <jcole> when i connect using ssh on feisty, it takes forever... is this known? or a problem?
[08:22] <jcole> "ssh {server}"
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[08:24] <jcole> "ssh localhost" took almost 5 minutes
[08:25] <jcole> once i'm connected, all is fine
[08:25] <LaserJock> jcole: wow, ssh looks fine for me
[08:25] <jcole> LaserJock: this is strange to me
[08:26] <jcole> $ time ssh localhost
[08:26] <jcole> real    2m11.307s
[08:27] <jcole> i wonder if it's that gnome network manager trying to activate my wireless card
[08:29] <jcole> "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" did the trick but the gnome network manager keeps bringing it back up!
[08:30] <jcole> nm-applet
[08:35] <jcole> apt-get remove --purge network-manager-gnom
[08:35] <jcole> MUCH better
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[08:42] <jcole> ssh is slow on feisty -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377212
[08:43] <poningru> waah?
[08:45] <Amaranth> i've got a debdiff attached to bug 89786 that should fix it, looking for someone to sponsor the upload
[08:45] <ubotu> Malone bug 89786 in desktop-effects "Desktop-effect does not enable cube" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89786
[08:45] <jcole> poningru: fresh install of feisty (used to have edgy on here) and ssh is awful slow... it maybe the way feisty does networking or something
[08:45] <fabbione> jcole: i have noticed something similar but only after logging in .. it did look like network-manager was switching between interfaces (i have 3 that all resolves and get the same IP from dhcp)
[08:46] <poningru> hmm havent noticed anything
[08:46] <poningru> here
[08:46] <fabbione> jcole: so ssh into one iface, nm switch and bam
[08:47] <jcole> fabbione: ya, once i'm logged in, all is well... it's just that 5 minute wait to connect
[08:47] <fabbione> jcole: can you check if you have more than one instance of dhcp client running for the same interface
[08:47] <fabbione> ?
[08:47] <fabbione> (with nm installed)
[08:47] <jcole> $ ps -ef | grep dhcp
[08:47] <jcole> dhcp      5069  4918  0 18:16 ?        00:00:00 /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth1.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid -q -e dhc_dbus=31 -d eth1
[08:47] <fabbione> jcole: with nm running?
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[08:48] <fabbione> hmm ok
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[08:50] <jcole> fabbione: i just uninstalled network-manager-gnome to see if that would help... but it didn't... i've reinstalled and kicked off nm-applet
[08:50] <fabbione> jcole: you need to remove network-manager to kill the backend
[08:50] <fabbione> nm-gnome is only the applet afaik
[08:51] <jcole> fabbione: ah
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[08:56] <^jcole> doing an "strace ssh server" i'm seeing lots of dns queries to the dns server
[08:56] <fabbione> ^jcole: once you purge nm you really want to clean up and do a reboot of the machine
[08:57] <fabbione> it doesn't leave the machine in a  nice status in my experience
[08:57] <^jcole> fabbione: ok, rebooting
[08:57] <fabbione> tho you can fix it manually by restarting the network properly
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[09:00] <^jcole> fabbione: it's faster now
[09:01] <^jcole> fabbione: network-manager was the problem
[09:01] <fabbione> ^jcole: file a bug please...
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[09:40] <jcole> fabbione: i'm filing a bug for network-manager right now... but i'm a bit befuddled of why removing it makes my system happy
[09:41] <fabbione> jcole: i believe that nm is resetting the interface too many times.. but i can't be sure
[09:46] <siretart> is the powerpc retracer down or something?
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[10:12] <hunger> Why was X's resolution changed?
[10:13] <hunger> How do I turn it back? Or will this stay and should I adopt my fonts?
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[10:16] <reitblatt> hunger: this channel isn't for support
[10:16] <reitblatt> try #ubuntu
[10:17] <hunger> reitblatt: To noisy there and you never get a answer there. I'll just write a bugreport.
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[11:56] <mdke> doko: around?
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[12:55] <tuxcrafter> how do i use kdump effective with the ubuntu kernel
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[01:20] <tuxcrafter> no onethat can help?
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[03:52] <otavio> Hello folks. I'm having a problem with dhcp3-client on Debian and would like to check if there's any modification done on Ubuntu that could address it. 
[03:53] <otavio> When using pppoe dhcp3-client is setting the default network route to the router while it shouldn't do it. dhcp-client works.
[03:53] <otavio> But dhcp3-client is a dependency of systems using network-manager and then it would be a serious bug for feisty too.
[03:55] <Nafallo> ouch :-/
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[04:43] <robertj> ajmitch: can I get a copy of the latest authtool just out of curiosity?
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[05:52] <GBM> Hi
[05:52] <GBM> I need an IRC in Spanish
[05:53] <Treenaks> try #ubuntu-es
[05:53] <Nafallo> #ubuntu-es
[05:53] <GBM> thanks a lot
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[06:18] <ded__> hi
[06:18] <ded__> im new on linux
[06:18] <ded__> how to execute shell command in c++ prog
[06:18] <ded__> ???
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[06:24] <blackska1> ded_: you can invoke any program from within your program using the exec()-functions
[06:24] <blackska1> more info : http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/ForkExecProcesses.html
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[06:35] <ded__> thanks im looking that
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[06:40] <ded__> thanks that was exactely what i wanted
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[07:09] <robertj> any thoughts on working up a spec to main libpam-smbpass a dep on ubuntu-desktop and enabled in common-password by default so that when users later install samba everything JustWorks?
[07:12] <Treenaks> robertj: There are already a few specs like that afaik
[07:13] <Treenaks> (mostly to do with simple business servers)
[07:14] <robertj> Treenaks: sorry, I should have included the fact that I was planning on writing a Spec that actually had a chance of being implemented ;)
[07:17] <Treenaks> robertj: well, you might want to improve one of the existing ones, instead of starting another one
[07:17] <robertj> Treenaks: not doable
[07:17] <Treenaks> robertj: just so you don't duplicate a lot of work
[07:17] <robertj> Thats a go-nowhere WikiWar waiting to happen
[07:18] <Treenaks> have you tried talking to the other spec-writers?
[07:18] <superm1> well having two very similar specs are another war waiting to happen though
[07:18] <Treenaks> if they want the same thing, it might be useful to work together
[07:18] <superm1> your much better off talking with the other spec writers
[07:18] <superm1> and trying to work together
[07:39] <tepsipakki> does someone know if casper.log is saved during livecd-install?
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[07:58] <shawarma> Mithrandir: You mentioned you could install feisty in qemu.. Could you start the installer (I'm using the server CD, but any one should do), get past the point where it looks for cd-rom drives and somehow dump the dmesg somewhere, so I can see it?
[08:06] <superm1> shawarma, do you need qemu in particular, I can check in virtualbox
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[08:07] <ProN00b> did nautilus get updated recently on edgy ?
[08:07] <Mithrandir> shawarma: checking
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[08:12] <shawarma> superm1: It has to be qemu.
[08:12] <shawarma> superm1: It's on an amd64 machine.
[08:12] <shawarma> superm1: And vmware is not an option.
[08:12] <superm1> shawarma, wasn't sure - since i had thought virtualbox was qemu based
[08:13] <shawarma> superm1: Oh, no it's not. They share a tiny bit of code, IIRC, but that's it.
[08:13] <superm1> ah ok
[08:13] <shawarma> Mithrandir: I checked up on the cross-emulations thing, by the way.
[08:14] <shawarma> Mithrandir: The thing is that you have to run the x86_64 emulator for kqemu to work, but inside it, you should run non 64-bit stuff.
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[08:34] <Mithrandir> shawarma: hm, ok
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[08:36] <shawarma> Mithrandir: I tried the amd64 version, which failed miserably.
[08:37] <ProN00b> did nautilus get updated recently on edgy ?
[08:37] <shawarma> Mithrandir: Rumour has it that Fedora seems to work, but the kqemu web page says it's experimental, so I didn't think much of it.
[08:37] <Mithrandir> ProN00b: yes, a week ago.
[08:38] <Mithrandir> shawarma: I'm getting horrible speed to cdimage.u.c, so I won't know for another twenty minutes if it works or not.
[08:38] <ProN00b> hmm, damnit, i have to recompile it every time to retain my changes
[08:39] <ProN00b> how do i get the current updated edgy source of it ?
[08:39] <shawarma> Mithrandir: Quite alright. I'll grab some dinner. Thanks for doing this.
[08:39] <shawarma> ProN00b: Add an appropriate deb-src line to sources.list, and do 'apt-get source nautilus'
[08:40] <shawarma> ProN00b: "appropriate" == "one that matches the deb line which got you the update"
[08:40] <ProN00b> hmm, does that include security ?
[08:40] <shawarma> ProN00b: Yes.
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[08:41] <shawarma> ProN00b: We're obligated to provide the source for all our packages.
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[08:41] <shawarma> ProN00b: It's no different for security updates.
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[08:42] <ProN00b> hmm, ya i seem to have all deb lines mirrored with deb-src in sources.list
[08:42] <ProN00b> any special way to build ?
[08:42] <ProN00b> i just need to replace the "nautilus" binary
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[08:57] <juliux> hi all
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[09:10] <Mithrandir> shawarma: I can't get past the cdrom detection either; looks like some modules are missing in d-i.
[09:14] <shawarma> Mithrandir: ide-generic used to suffice, I think.
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[09:23] <shawarma> Mithrandir: Any good ideas? Otherwise, I'll just file a bug against the kernel.
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[09:27] <Mithrandir> no great ideas, no.  Talk to Colin about it, he can probably tell at a glance.  Or BenC who knows the kernel well.
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[09:34] <superm1> BenC, any word on my lirc patch?
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[10:28] <shawarma> Mithrandir: Will do. Thanks a lot for trying!
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[11:40] <_ion> Is there a bzr branch for linux-restricted-modules development?
[11:40] <shawarma> _ion: I'd expect to find it in git..
[11:41] <shawarma> _ion: Try asking in #ubuntu-kernel
[11:42] <_ion> Thanks
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