[12:24] <maxamillion> Naughtyboy: notice the foot icon on the menu and when you unpack the "Theme-Pack" is has a Gnome directory in there .... this guy just made the theme for both gnome and xfce but he is running gnome
[12:25] <Naughtyboy> aha OK...so GTK works a little different in gnome compared to xfwm4 ..?
[12:26] <maxamillion> Naughtyboy: no, but Gnome menus are written a little differently than xfce menus ;)
[12:27] <Naughtyboy> ok..I see
[12:28] <maxamillion> Naughtyboy: actually I think Gnome does have some custom gtk extensions that are part of their gnome-libs which is why when we put applications in xubuntu that have gnome-libs the developers remove those dependencies and recompile with the equvalent "pure gtk" libraries
[12:31] <Naughtyboy> maxamillion, ..OK..yeah well..you would know better than me..
[12:31] <Naughtyboy> ;=)
[12:32] <maxamillion> :)
[12:33] <maxamillion> well ... gnome libraries are really bloated and require extra resources which results in a slower program, that's actually the original reason we don't use them ... but meh
[12:33] <Naughtyboy> yeah..well sometime u just have to...I guess..
[12:34] <ShiftOptionK> 'k, so the message I get when I try to use the GDM theme is "The greeter application appears to be crashing, attempting to use another one."
[12:34] <ShiftOptionK> A 3rd party GDM theme*
[12:36] <Naughtyboy> damn this desktop I just put together is sexy  LOL ...this puppy is going out on "April Desktop Thread" in the ubuntu forums...
[12:36] <maxamillion> ShiftOptionK: that's not good .... i honestly have no clue why it would be doing that :(
[12:36] <maxamillion> !language | Naughtyboy
[12:36] <ubotu> Naughtyboy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:36] <maxamillion> ;)
[12:37] <ShiftOptionK> maxamillion: I'm totally drawing a blank at why this is happening and what I should do about it
[12:37] <ShiftOptionK> It happens with every 3rd party theme I've tried so far
[12:37] <maxamillion> Naughtyboy: also, on the screenshot on that theme's page look at the Terminal window ... Gnome terminal is the one that has a "tabs" menu, not xfce ;)
[12:38] <Naughtyboy> w00t....exactly wich one of the words was unfriendly....the D work or the S word ...?
[12:38] <maxamillion> the D
[12:38] <maxamillion> the S is tollerable and i don't mind
[12:39] <Naughtyboy> ok then...thnx for pointing it out
[12:39] <maxamillion> i don't think its that bad, but we attempt to appeal to all present or potentially present users .....
[12:39] <maxamillion> no prob, just doing my duties :)
[12:39] <Naughtyboy> yeah..
[12:39] <Naughtyboy> ;=)
[12:41] <ShiftOptionK> 'k, so I got the SystemAccess theme to work
[12:42] <ShiftOptionK> What does the "Enable accessible login" checkbox do?
[12:45] <g4h> ok, well that sucks. apparently the update hosed xfce
[12:46] <g4h> whats the best way to go about reinstalling xfce?
[12:47] <maxamillion> g4h: what update?
[12:47] <ShiftOptionK> Yeup, the "Accessible Login" checkbox did it
[12:47] <g4h> apt-get moo
[12:47] <g4h> heh, wrong window
[12:47] <maxamillion> g4h: lol
[12:49] <g4h> and the upgrade* i was working on from edgy to 6.10?
[12:50] <g4h> it had that previously mentioned hangup while force restarting mono-samba, then i got past that and it was mocing along fine till i looked over and noticed i had a black screen with nothing but a mouse pointer
[12:51] <maxamillion> g4h: edgy is 6.10
[12:51] <g4h> so figured whatev, just let it do its thing, but after a while i noticed it wasnt doing anything, hit my shutdown hotkey and it brought the window up but all the characters were boxes. knowing which one was restart, i did so and yeah...its b0rked
[12:52] <g4h> hmm...something in my system disagreed
[12:52] <g4h> because thats what i thought, too
[12:52] <maxamillion> strange ...
[12:53] <g4h> i can get a root prompt just fine under recovery mode, but regular boot gets past login and hangs
[12:53] <g4h> reverting to prompt under normal boot lets me login as well, so i'm assuming its just xfce
[12:54] <maxamillion> :(
[12:54] <maxamillion> well ... i really have to go
[12:54] <maxamillion> ttyl
[12:59] <somerville32> File a bug report please.
[01:02] <g4h> ...
[01:02] <g4h> i'll get right on that as soon as my server is running again
[01:04] <g4h> how do i go about reinstalling xfce?
[01:05] <g4h> its still hanging after login
[01:11] <somerville32> Does xfce start completely before freezing?
[01:11] <somerville32> Or does it freeze as soon as you hit enter?
[01:12] <g4h> after i hit enter, the login window closes, giving a blank desktop, no menus or icons, and a mobile mouse cursor
[01:13] <g4h> edgy themes
[01:45] <sigmamu188> Koba: ever get the network settings running on DSL
[01:46] <sigmamu188> Koba: that was you right?
[02:10] <Sharn> Hello
[02:10] <Sharn> :P
[02:10] <sigmamu188> salutations sharn
[02:10] <Shaba1> Anyone ever use an applet called ksayit?
[02:11] <Sharn> Shaba1, I haven't. Why?
[02:12] <Shaba1> just wondering. I downloaded it when I was looking around for stuff with synaptic
[02:12] <Shaba1> It is suppose to speak pasted in text
[02:12] <Shaba1> but it does not
[02:12] <Shaba1> I am wondering if its my Ram or slower processor
[02:13] <Shaba1> or just that it does not run on xubuntu
[02:13] <Sharn> Not sure, never really heard of it.
[02:13] <Sharn> Like, text you paste directly into it?
[02:13] <Shaba1> yes
[02:14] <Sharn> Oh, that's odd...
[02:14] <Sharn> You have sound everywhere else?
[02:14] <Shaba1> well the play button presses
[02:14] <Shaba1> and it say sythesising
[02:14] <Shaba1> in the status bar
[02:15] <Shaba1> but nothing even sounds out
[02:15] <sigmamu188> Shaba1: are you missing and dependencies?
[02:15] <Shaba1> Its no big deal
[02:15] <Sharn> Sounds like is uses ALSA or something to output sound, maybe. Unless you have that all setup.
[02:15] <Shaba1> Its just something I thought would be cute to play with b
[02:16] <Shaba1> t I am wondering why it does not wrok
[02:17] <Shaba1> I jsut typed something into it
[02:17] <Shaba1> Nada
[02:17] <sigmamu188> check you dependencies!!
[02:18] <sigmamu188> Shaba1: also see if it uses gnome or kde
[02:19] <sigmamu188> you might not have the right services running
[02:29] <Shaba1> How do I get back to the desktop once the screen saver kicks in
[02:31] <Sharn> Just hit a key...
[02:31] <Sharn> Unless I'm missing something?
[02:54] <Shaba1> guys
[02:55] <Shaba1> is anyone here
[02:56] <sigmamu188> bout to eat
[02:56] <sigmamu188> brbr
[02:57] <Sharn> I'm still here
[02:57] <Sharn> Kindof. :P
[02:58] <Shaba1> Sharn
[02:58] <Shaba1> my screen saver on my laptop kicked in
[02:58] <Shaba1> now I cannot get back to the desktp
[02:59] <Shaba1> do I have to type in my password to get it back?
[02:59] <Shaba1> NOpe that did not work
[02:59] <Shaba1> How do I get the desktop back
[03:00] <sigmamu188> it should be you password
[03:01] <Shaba1> do I have to enter the user name too?
[03:01] <thomaslai> hi I have some problem launching thunar file manager in Xubuntu 6.10, it complains abt dbus
[03:01] <sigmamu188> no
[03:01] <sigmamu188> just ps
[03:02] <Carsten> Hello. I need some help on sound at 6.06 - anyone can/wanna help?
[03:02] <sigmamu188> err pw
[03:02] <Sharn> Shaba1: i had that problem testing feather on an old laptop, it just stayed black. I enver got it out.=\
[03:02] <sigmamu188> ill try
[03:02] <Carsten> thx
[03:02] <thomaslai> I have ubuntu-gnome installed as well, I installed xubuntu-desktop to try
[03:02] <Shaba1> i just turned it off and back on
[03:02] <Shaba1> how do I adjust that behavious
[03:03] <sigmamu188> Carsten: whats the sound problem?
[03:03] <Shaba1> becaue this is the 5th time since I installed xubuntu on sunday that that happened
[03:03] <Carsten> 6.06 I fail to find "snd-es18xx" modprobe is negative -- do I have to install?
[03:03] <Carsten> sigmamu188: find / -name snd-es18 was negative
[03:04] <sigmamu188> you might need to install
[03:04] <Shaba1> install what?
[03:04] <Sharn> Shaba1: i don't know. Sorry. I have yet to find a screensaver config deal
[03:04] <Shaba1> this sucks
[03:04] <Carsten> sigmamu188: i googeled for it, but couldn't get the appropriate apt-get line
[03:04] <Shaba1> and they say linux is better then window in all regards
[03:04] <sigmamu188> fro the driver?
[03:05] <Carsten> sigmamu188: yes
[03:05] <Shaba1> Not in this one
[03:05] <sigmamu188> Carsten: what sound card are you using
[03:05] <Carsten> sigmamu188: My computer(!) ^^ uses ESS1869
[03:05] <Sharn> Shaba1: no offense, but no one said it's better than windows in every way
[03:06] <Carsten> sigmamu188: I've red a lot about THAT today... it's an old notebook Compaq Armada 1750
[03:06] <Carsten> sigmamu188: I tried likely too much
[03:06] <sigmamu188> lol
[03:06] <Sharn> Someone else may be able to help, but I can't. =\
[03:06] <Carsten> sigmamu188: versus /etc/modules
[03:06] <Shaba1> ok mouse just locked up
[03:07] <Carsten> sigmamu188: If you can help me on these two questions, I'll be fine...
[03:07] <Carsten> sigmamu188: (1) Where do I get snd-es18xx (.o)?
[03:07] <sigmamu188> Carsten: ill try ive only been using linux for a year nw
[03:08] <Carsten> sigmamu188: (2) do you know where 6.06 (DD) does store the vital sound data... like where exatcly to put those aliases and options-lines?
[03:08] <Carsten> sigmamu188: thx for that
[03:09] <Shaba1> unbuntu
[03:09] <Carsten> Shaba1?
[03:10] <sigmamu188> try gksudo mousepad /etc/modeprobe.d/alsa-base not for sure
[03:11] <Carsten> sigmamu188: rgr. done that
[03:11] <Carsten> opens a text-file...
[03:11] <sigmamu188> any thing in there?
[03:12] <Carsten> sigmamu188: no specific - looks like generic one
[03:12] <Shaba1> this sucks
[03:12] <Carsten> sigmamu188:  stuff like this driver is bad therefore index=-2
[03:12] <sigmamu188> http://www.oliyiptong.com/blog/category/open-source/ go to that page
[03:13] <sigmamu188> scroll down to old hardware help in ubuntu
[03:13] <Carsten> sigmamu188: saw that before today, rgr will do
[03:14] <Carsten> sigmamu188: will try with you now, thx
[03:14] <Shaba1> now its locked again
[03:14] <sigmamu188> it says to create a file named soundcard in /etc/modprobe.d/
[03:14] <Carsten> sigmamu188: rgr i've done that
[03:14] <sigmamu188> open it
[03:14] <Carsten> but modprobe snd-es18xx fails
[03:14] <Carsten> FATAL... .o not there
[03:15] <Carsten> ok will do
[03:15] <thomaslai> anyone, how do I check dbus version?
[03:15] <Carsten> sigmamu188: open
[03:16] <sigmamu188>     alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
[03:16] <sigmamu188>     alias snd-card-0 snd-es18xx
[03:16] <sigmamu188>     options snd-es18xx enable=1 isapnp=0 port=0220 mpu_port=0388 fm_port=0330 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=5
[03:16] <sigmamu188> in there
[03:16] <sigmamu188> do you have alsa installes
[03:16] <Carsten> sigmamu188: affirmative
[03:16] <sigmamu188> installed
[03:16] <Carsten> sigmamu188: apt-get alsa alsa-utils alsa-base
[03:16] <Carsten> sigmamu188: rgr
[03:16] <Shaba1> Ok I just turned it off for good
[03:16] <Shaba1> I got tired of the lock ups
[03:17] <Carsten> sigmamu188: i carefully checked the file "soundcard" and compared to the BIOS settings
[03:17] <Carsten> while DMA1=1 DMA2=0
[03:17] <Carsten> sigmamu188: i tried both
[03:17] <sigmamu188> hmm
[03:18] <Carsten> sigmamu188: modprobe: ... FATAL: Module snd_es18xx not found. Even after update-modules
[03:18] <Carsten> sigmamu188: How does the system know to check "soundcard" when I request "snd-es18xx"?
[03:19] <sigmamu188> did you set the mpu port fm port and irq?
[03:19] <Carsten> sigmamu188: one webpage even told to CREATE snd-es18xx as file
[03:19] <sigmamu188> in the options like on
[03:19] <Carsten> sigmamu188: rgr everything according to the BIOD
[03:19] <sigmamu188> line* in the file
[03:19] <Carsten> sigmamu188: err: BIOS
[03:19] <sigmamu188> hmm
[03:19] <Carsten> sigmamu188: I ve been on that for some hours now... =/
[03:20] <sigmamu188> did you install the alsa drivers?
[03:20] <Carsten> rgr
[03:20] <Carsten> sigmamu188: accroding to http://magiex.netfirms.com/
[03:21] <Carsten> sigmamu188: section: ALSA
[03:21] <Carsten> sigmamu188: while this reads ex1688(!)
[03:21] <Carsten> sigmamu188: es1688(!)
[03:22] <Carsten> sigmamu188: also alsaconf cannot be found after installing above called packages.. alsa-utils should include "alsaconf"
[03:22] <Carsten> sigmamu188: idea: i did not freed any repositories... it's fresh Xubuntu from alternate CDROM and language via internet
[03:23] <sigmamu188> so you installed alsa, alsa-utils alsa-base
[03:23] <Carsten> sigmamu188:  rgr
[03:23] <sigmamu188> and asla driver
[03:23] <Carsten> sigmamu188:  rgr (as mentioned above "3 files")
[03:24] <Carsten> sigmamu188: actual DRIVER, UTILS and LIB
[03:24] <Carsten> sigmamu188: after pushing also stuff like bin-utils +++++ i was able to ./configure and ./make them
[03:26] <sigmamu188> im totally stumped
[03:26] <Carsten> sigmamu188: someone mentioned an .gz version of this driver somewhere under /kernel... but find didnt make it out
[03:26] <Carsten> sigmamu188: welcome to the club..
[03:27] <Carsten> sigmamu188: i am looking for a rough basic introduction into sound system of 6.06
[03:27] <sigmamu188> ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
[03:27] <Carsten> so i can rebuild and reload driver (snd-es18xx)
[03:28] <johnnybigoode> Uhn . . . newbie here, I was looking tru the SPM, why isn't firefox 2 on place of firefox 1.5 ? Should I upgrade to firefox 1.5 ?
[03:29] <sigmamu188> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0.0.3&os=linux&lang=en-US
[03:30] <sigmamu188> firefox 2.0
[03:30] <johnnybigoode> I know where to download . . . I was just wondering if there are any problems with firefox 2,
[03:30] <johnnybigoode> Or a good reason not to have firefox 2 in the SPM and have firefox 1.5
[03:30] <Carsten_> i am back .. it crashed =(
[03:30] <sigmamu188> the ftp?
[03:31] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: no my win ^^
[03:31] <Shaba1> ok back with you guys
[03:31] <sigmamu188> that sucks
[03:31] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: i've found alsaconf at alsa
[03:31] <Carsten_> where do i pack it?
[03:31] <Carsten_> into /sbin?
[03:31] <sigmamu188> let me check
[03:31] <Carsten_> unpack, ./configute ; make ; make install?
[03:32] <Carsten_> 0.4.3?
[03:32] <sigmamu188> cd /usr/src
[03:32] <sigmamu188> mkdir alsa
[03:32] <sigmamu188> cd alsa
[03:32] <Carsten_> kk
[03:32] <sigmamu188> install all your alsa stuff there
[03:33] <sigmamu188> bunzip2 alsa-driver-xxx
[03:33] <sigmamu188> tar -xf alsa-driver-xxx
[03:33] <sigmamu188> cd alsa-driver-xxx
[03:33] <sigmamu188> ./configure --with-cards=es1688 --with-sequencer=yes;make;make install
[03:33] <sigmamu188> ./snddevices
[03:33] <Shaba1> anyone know how to shut off the xbuntu screen saver?
[03:34] <sigmamu188> applications > settings > screensaver
[03:34] <Shaba1> yeah I got there
[03:34] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: thats what i done according to the webpage yea
[03:34] <Shaba1> but there does not seem to be a setting to shut it off
[03:34] <Carsten_> sigmamu188:  running now alsaconf (NEW!)
[03:36] <Shaba1> anyone
[03:36] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: alsaconf aborts
[03:36] <sigmamu188> restart x after setting the settings
[03:36] <sigmamu188> hmm
[03:36] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: assumption: cannot find snd-es18xx
[03:36] <Shaba1> Hello
[03:36] <sigmamu188> shabal
[03:36] <sigmamu188> restart x after setting the settings
[03:36] <Shaba1> anyone know how to shut off the xbuntu screen saver?
[03:37] <Carsten_> shaba: shutting down x = CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[03:37] <Carsten_> or right top corner... click
[03:37] <Shaba1> that gest to a termina window though does it now
[03:37] <Shaba1> not
[03:37] <Shaba1> I wan to keep the desktop
[03:37] <Carsten_> shaba... restart x
[03:37] <Shaba1> HOW
[03:37] <Carsten_> thats what you need to do after changing the settings, if i got him right
[03:37] <Shaba1> you just said a lot of stuff but no instructions
[03:38] <Carsten_> shaba.. ok
[03:38] <Carsten_> where are you know
[03:38] <Carsten_> is x running?
[03:38] <Shaba1> turning on the laptop
[03:38] <sigmamu188> after changing the screen saver settings in applications > settings > screensaver
[03:38] <sigmamu188> reset x by typing sudo shutdown now -r
[03:38] <Carsten_> ^^
[03:38] <sigmamu188> then see if the settings are applied
[03:39] <Shaba1> hold on
[03:39] <sigmamu188> cool
[03:39] <Shaba1> its booting
[03:39] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: ... alsaconf aborts
[03:39] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: looks like i am simply lacking snd-es18xx
[03:39] <sigmamu188> you got the drivers installed properly?
[03:40] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: the (above mentioned steps on webpage including ./configure; make ; make install took long, did not abort and went off with final non-error messages.. so i assume: yes
[03:41] <sigmamu188> did you do the chmod command afterwards
[03:42] <Shaba1> Hold on
[03:42] <Shaba1> it booted to windwos by mistake
[03:42] <sigmamu188> Carsten: i just kinda going by the website and trying to help you trouble shoot i really dont have much experiance with alsa
[03:42] <sigmamu188> Shaba1: its cool
[03:43] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: i did chmod a+rw...
[03:43] <Carsten_> sigmamu188:  i tried some it found snd_(!)es1688
[03:44] <Shaba1> Ok at the desktop now what
[03:44] <sigmamu188> check in applications>settings> screensaver and see if shows the screen saver as disabled
[03:45] <Shaba1> Applications----> Settings----manager
[03:45] <Shaba1> now what
[03:45] <Shaba1> NO it does not
[03:45] <sigmamu188> ok is you problem when it locks on ss?\
[03:45] <Shaba1> and now the mouse is locked
[03:46] <Shaba1> yes thats it
[03:46] <Shaba1> and when I go to the screen saver setting
[03:46] <Shaba1> this is riduculous
[03:46] <sigmamu188> do you see a box labled lock screen after [time] 
[03:46] <Shaba1> yes and it is NOT checked
[03:46] <sigmamu188> hmm
[03:47] <sigmamu188> are you running kde or gnome?
[03:47] <Shaba1> OK powering down again
[03:47] <Shaba1> nope whatever installed with xubuntu
[03:47] <sigmamu188> they both are
[03:47] <sigmamu188> lol
[03:47] <Shaba1> I think that is called xfre
[03:48] <sigmamu188> xfce
[03:48] <sigmamu188> but it starts probably with gnome services running if i am not mistaken
[03:48] <Shaba1> rebooting again
[03:48] <sigmamu188> when you reboot
[03:48] <sigmamu188> open the process manager
[03:48] <Shaba1> HOW!!!!
[03:48] <sigmamu188> hold on
[03:49] <sigmamu188> applications > system > processmanager
[03:49] <sigmamu188> please dont yell i am trying to help
[03:49] <Shaba1> I know
[03:49] <Shaba1> but sayign something with out giving instructions as to how is frustrating me
[03:50] <sigmamu188> i understand i will try to be more descriptive with my instructions
[03:50] <Shaba1> I spent the last 7 hours going thru the same thing with the people in php-gtk
[03:50] <sigmamu188> after opening process manager via the command above
[03:50] <Shaba1> oK i AM THERE
[03:50] <sigmamu188> find the command named xscreensaver
[03:51] <Shaba1> sorry I hit the caplock by mistake that time
[03:51] <sigmamu188> rightclick on xscreensaver and select kill
[03:51] <sigmamu188> its ok
[03:51] <Shaba1> Ok got that
[03:51] <sigmamu188> ok i should stay off for now
[03:52] <Shaba1> huh??
[03:52] <sigmamu188> now im going to try to find a more perminate fix for you
[03:52] <Shaba1> you are not going to finish
[03:52] <Shaba1> oh sorry
[03:52] <sigmamu188> i need to find the probper way to perminatly dissable it
[03:52] <sigmamu188> its cool
[03:52] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: thx for concern... i am getting too tired now... sorry
[03:52] <Shaba1> I did not read that line about set kill
[03:53] <Shaba1> but the thing is I would not mind it if it would act like a windows screen saver and just come back on when you moved the mouse or hit a keyboard key
[03:53] <sigmamu188> Carsten_: sorry i could not help try taking to maxamillion the next time he is on here
[03:53] <sigmamu188> he is the man
[03:53] <sigmamu188> typically it should
[03:53] <sigmamu188> im not sure why it wont work
[03:54] <Shaba1> It just locks up the whole screen and keyboard and mouse
[03:54] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: thx. me too bro, me too
[03:54] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: Greetings from GMT/UTC+2
[03:54] <sigmamu188> you should install the new beta
[03:55] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: shutdown -h now
[03:55] <sigmamu188> CST USA!
[03:55] <sigmamu188> night
[03:55] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: actual 4am
[03:55] <sigmamu188> 9 pm here
[03:55] <Carsten_> sigmamu188: *dazzle*
[03:55] <Carsten_> \bye.
[03:55] <Shaba1> damn even with that off when I go into the screen saver settign the dcomputer locks up
[03:56] <Shaba1> It just did it again
[03:56] <sigmamu188> wait and see if it unlocks
[03:56] <sigmamu188> it might be a ram issue
[03:56] <Shaba1> I rebooted
[04:08] <sigmamu188> i cant figure out a way to perminatly disable
[04:08] <sigmamu188> i have to take care of a few errands, i will try to keep working on the problem
[04:08] <sigmamu188> and get back to you
[04:09] <sigmamu188> i will be back tonight and usually one here every day
[04:09] <sigmamu188> keep asking people they might be able to better help you
[04:09] <sigmamu188> but you have a temp fix for now by killing it in the process manager
[04:14] <posingaspopular> !feisty
[04:14] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:20] <posingaspopular> hey im looking to install xubuntu feisty, and im downloading the file from http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ but i have no idea how to burn an .iso in windows. help?
[04:29] <BFTD> um I just installed an new (and only) IDE HDD
[04:29] <BFTD> how do I find it via command line?
[04:35] <g4h> its working fine though?
[04:42] <g4h> pico /etc/mtab should list it
[04:53] <BFTD> I got it
[04:54] <sigmamu188> to upgrade
[04:54] <sigmamu188> ?
[05:51] <Shaba1> Hello anyone here?
[06:08] <g4h> somewhat, Shaba1
[06:08] <Shaba1> wow
[06:08] <Shaba1> never mind
[06:08] <Shaba1> I forgot what I was going to ask now
[06:09] <g4h> one of many reasons we encourage people to 'just ask' =p
[06:10] <g4h> like so
[06:11] <g4h> so okay, how do i change the permissions for a user home folder so i can access them remotely through samba?
[06:12] <g4h> the folder perms, not the samba ones. those i have tackled.
[06:18] <grazie> g4h: File mode bits can be change by using the chmod command or right clicking the folder in thunar. However, I'm surprised you can't read the folder with the default settings.
[06:19] <g4h> I don't have access to thunar otherwise this would be solved, hehe
[06:19] <g4h> a botched upgrade has me stuck in terminal and i'm just backing up files before i wipe the install
[06:21] <g4h> and yeah it momentarilly threw me off that i couldnt access that one, but no worries as long as i can figure out how to fix it ~.^
[06:22] <Shaba1> hello guys
[06:22] <Shaba1> and ladies if there are any in a techie room
[06:24] <g4h> there are. try not to assume otherwise =P
[06:24] <Shaba1> I did not
[06:24] <Shaba1> that is why I added the "and ladies"
[06:25] <g4h> <.<
[06:25] <g4h> >.>
[06:26] <g4h> happen to remember what you were going to ask yet?
[06:29] <Shaba1> nope
[06:29] <Shaba1> I hate getting old
[07:18] <geekunit> is there anything else besides grabbing updates i should do to keep my xubuntu install secure?
[07:19] <j1mmc> geekunit, i'm not a security expert, but . . . if you just want something simple, i've heard good things about firestarter as a software-based firewall.
[07:20] <geekunit> jlmmc: cool, i'll check it out
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> bastille if you're really serious
[07:29] <geekunit> i have xubuntu on my secondary drive.  i can't seem to access hda1 with fdisk though
[07:29] <j1mmc> geekunit, what version of xubuntu are you running?
[07:30] <geekunit> jlmmc: the newest, fiesty fawn
[07:31] <j1mmc> geekunit, with feisty, they changed the drive lettering scheme.  try /dev/sda1
[07:32] <geekunit> ahhh.. why?
[07:32] <j1mmc> i can't remember . . .   :)
[07:32] <j1mmc> i know i read it somewhere, though.  and someone in this channel told me about it, too.
[07:32] <j1mmc> try that, and let me know if it helps.
[07:32] <geekunit> it worked, just had to sudo.  thanks again1
[07:33] <j1mmc> =)  no problem!!!
[07:35] <geekunit> ok, now for the ultimate question.  are there any spyware scanners for linux that I could use to scan an ntfs volume?
[07:35] <j1mmc> geekunit, there are antivirus scanners . . . or, at least one anyway.  i think it's called clam av or something?
[07:36] <j1mmc> i don't know of any spyware scanners on linux.
[07:36] <j1mmc> maybe try "apt-cache search spyware"
[07:38] <j1mmc> geekunit, are you trying to get rid of a spyware infection in windows from linux?
[07:40] <j1mmc> g'nite all.
[07:40] <geekunit> windows
[07:40] <geekunit> nite, thanks
[07:40] <j1mmc> yw... good luck!
[09:22] <BFTD> is it possible to see the speed of my "GPU"
[09:22] <BFTD> not CPU
[10:36] <nessmuk> xubuntu uses an earlier version of xfce than the latest/best installer bundled as xfce 4-4.4RC2. Can one install the latest into Edgy 6.10....or xubuntu itself?
[10:42] <grazie> nessmuk: folks have done it yes. some with success, some had problems and some had no success. Depends whether want to install outside the package manager. Feisty contains latest xfce
[10:43] <nessmuk> yes....I was just looking at getting that. Wondering if it's a bit early.....is it very stable/buggy?
[10:45] <booglebox> ping
[10:45] <grazie> nessmuk: most wouldn't recommend using it as your primary os just yet
[10:45] <nessmuk> grazie....of course. My Edgy is nice'n stable, except for Firefox.....javascript
[10:48] <nessmuk> thanks grazie....I'm gonna just dabble with the livecd of Feisty for now.
[10:48] <nessmuk> do you mind me asking what country you're in?
[10:48] <grazie> nessmuk: np....uk
[10:49] <nessmuk> man....I sure love how Ubuntu is  sweeping the world.
[10:56] <hyper_ch> nessmuk: I haven't encountered any real problem yet with feisty...
[10:57] <hyper_ch> nessmuk: there was one (wifi stopped working from one kernel upgrade) but less than 48h another kernel upgrade was released... so that problem is non-existant anymore for me
[11:08] <TheDarkKiller> Hey, I'm having some problems with the screen going black while installing Xubuntu :(
[11:10] <TheDarkKiller> I'm really new to Linux, so I thought about something easy first. Heard Xubuntu was good. So I burned the ISO on a CD, popped it into my drive, selected "Start or install Xubuntu". Then it loads, and after a while, it goes to a prompt. A few seconds after, the screen goes black
[11:10] <TheDarkKiller> I have no idea what to do :(
[11:11] <grazie> TheDarkKiller: Sounds like you've got video driver problems
[11:11] <grazie> TheDarkKiller: desktop or alternate cd?
[11:12] <grazie> TheDarkKiller: or what's the name of the .iso you burnt to cd?
[11:13] <TheDarkKiller> Desktop
[11:14] <grazie> does ctrl+alt+f1 give you a console?
[11:15] <TheDarkKiller> Give me a second
[11:15] <TheDarkKiller> No, it doesnt
[11:16] <grazie> how much ram does it have?
[11:17] <TheDarkKiller> The machine? 512mb
[11:17] <TheDarkKiller> By the way, this is the ISO name: xubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:17] <TheDarkKiller> And it has the correct MD5 sum
[11:18] <grazie> should be fine. you could try booting with different kernel params
[11:18] <TheDarkKiller> Booting with different kernel parameters? Enlighten me ;)
[11:20] <grazie> TheDarkKiller: did your try the "safe graphics mode" in the boot menu?
[11:20] <TheDarkKiller> I did, yes, I can't do /msg by the way
[11:20] <grazie> TheDarkKiller: same problem?
[11:21] <TheDarkKiller> Yep
[11:22] <grazie> what is the machine?
[11:22] <TheDarkKiller> By the way, can't I just go to the boot: prompt and type in' live'?
[11:22] <TheDarkKiller> Second
[11:26] <TheDarkKiller> I'm in Xubuntu now, typed 'live' at the boot: prompt
[11:27] <TheDarkKiller> It's loading now, I'm sure
[11:36] <TheDarkKiller> But thanks for your help grazie
[11:38] <grazie> TheDarkKiller: np
[11:44] <TheDarkKiller> Hnmm, it seems like it've crashed? I selected the "install" option, and after a while it isnt responing anymore
[11:47] <hyper_ch> TheDarkKiller: did you also check the cd? It should be one of the boot options
[01:20] <TheDarkKiller> Back, now I can't even boot it :(
[01:20] <TheDarkKiller> Should I download the "alternative" cd?
[01:20] <TheDarkKiller> Might that fix my problems?
[01:21] <kalikiana_> TheDarkKiller, The live install froze with you, right?
[01:23] <kalikiana_> You might try one more time and see if it works. After that I'd use the alternate or server cd.
[01:24] <TheDarkKiller> Yes, it froze
[01:24] <TheDarkKiller> I've tried over 10 times now
[01:24] <TheDarkKiller> :(
[01:25] <kalikiana_> So better try one of the other cds, they *will* work.
[01:33] <grazie> TheDarkKiller: I'd recommend the minimal install cd if you've got a good internet connection >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:33] <grazie> kalikiana_: do you know of any bug reports on the desktop cd installation?
[01:36] <magic_ninja> wat up gibblets
[01:36] <magic_ninja> TheDarkKiller: what kind of problems are u having
[01:36] <TheDarkKiller> BACK
[01:37] <magic_ninja> hey bro
[01:37] <magic_ninja> i've written a tutoral for problems installing via the regular cd
[01:37] <TheDarkKiller> Well, the screen going black and crashs
[01:37] <TheDarkKiller> Oh?
[01:37] <TheDarkKiller> Link? :)
[01:37] <magic_ninja> it just shows you how to pop up a bare bones x environment
[01:37] <magic_ninja> lemme find it
[01:38] <magic_ninja> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313406&highlight=magic_ninja
[01:38] <magic_ninja> hope that hels you
[01:38] <magic_ninja> *helps
[01:39] <magic_ninja> lot of the time with all the other stuff going on in the background from a live cd it kinda messes things up sometimes...i don't care what anyone says, computers mess themselves up sometimes
[01:41] <TheDarkKiller> Grazie, you there?
[01:41] <grazie> yeah
[02:58] <TheDarkKiller> Hey, I've just installed Xubuntu, but there's no graphical interface? I used the "minimal cd" setup and installed it, now I have no idea what to do.
[02:59] <ormiret> would minimal CD possibly be alternate CD?
[03:01] <ormiret> There should be a graphical interface if it was, are you getting a text login prompt?
[03:03] <grazie> ormiret: TheDarkKiller used the minimal cd, but must have missed an option somewhere ... is now installing xubuntu-desktop.....I hope
[03:05] <Grey_Loki> Would SuperKaramba work in Xubuntu?
[03:05] <TheDarkKiller> Think it is sorting out now
[03:06] <crdlb> Grey_Loki, yes, but you could use adesklets or gdesklets instead
[03:06] <crdlb> you'd need to install a lot of kde deps for superkaramba
[03:13] <Grey_Loki> Ooh
[03:13] <Grey_Loki> gdesklets looks pretty fine - thanks, crdlb
[03:14] <Shaba1> Hello anyone here
[03:14] <Grey_Loki> !ask | Shaba1
[03:14] <ubotu> Shaba1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:16] <Shaba1> I asked it
[03:16] <Shaba1> I asked if anyone was here
[03:17] <crdlb> you can't ask questions w/o questions marks :D
[03:24] <Grey_Loki> Hehehe
[03:25] <Grey_Loki> What ubotu means is 'Don't waste time asking if you can ask a question - it's what we're here for; Just ask your question'
[04:02] <TheDarkKiller> The xubuntu gui installation is asking for postfix configuration?
[04:02] <TheDarkKiller> What should I choose?
[04:02] <TheDarkKiller> I, by mistake, skipped the help file
[04:02] <TheDarkKiller> :(
[04:16] <hyper_ch> TheDarkKiller: what are you installing?
[04:21] <TheDarkKiller> Nevermind, sorted it out
[07:03] <digits> man, one's spoiled... takes insane amonts of time to install xubuntu on the old farts computer when you're talking about MHz instead of GHz :P
[07:05] <digits> if i install a server install (only had an ubuntu disc on hand) and then do an xubuntu-desktop install, do i still get the nifty looking boot splash?
[08:36] <Grey_Loki> So if XFCE is rather slow to render new workspaces when I flick between them whilst not running much (XChat, Opera, and Synaptic), it's a hardware thing, right?
[08:36] <Grey_Loki> Oh, i'm also running gdesklets with four system monitoring...thingies.
[08:41] <ormiret> Grey_Loki: how much RAM have you got free when you're seeing things come up slowly?
[08:41] <Grey_Loki> ormiret, very little indeed
[08:41] <Grey_Loki> It seems that Synaptic froze - I just 'sudo killall synaptic' and took a look
[08:42] <Grey_Loki> Now using 174/213MB RAM.
[08:42] <ormiret> is there much in the swap?
[08:42] <Grey_Loki> Which seems a bit much with just Opera, Xchat, Azureus, gesklets and xterm running
[08:42] <Grey_Loki> Swap is 207MB
[08:43] <Grey_Loki> CPU usage (1.33Ghz Celeron) is <10%
[08:44] <ormiret> yeah, the stuff on the other desktop will be dumped to swap if you haven't been there for a while (a while possibly being a short time if what you are using needs RAM) and will have to be reloaded to RAM before it can run when you switch.
[08:44] <Grey_Loki> Aha
[08:44] <Grey_Loki> I wondered why it sometimes did that.
[08:44] <Grey_Loki> I see there's an extra slot in this laptop for some more RAM, and i've been thinking of getting a stick
[08:45] <Grey_Loki> I don't actually know what the osort of ram is called, though
[08:45] <Grey_Loki> SDRAM?
[08:46] <ormiret> probably, crucial.com has a useful thing for identifying the RAM you need for laptops
[08:46] <Grey_Loki> Ooh
[08:48] <Grey_Loki> Bah
[08:48] <Grey_Loki> Needs to be Windows based, running IE.
[08:50] <ormiret> the make/prduct/model part works
[08:53] <Grey_Loki> Heh
[08:53] <Grey_Loki> Mine seems to be the only one that isn't listed
[08:54] <Grey_Loki> Packard Bell EasyNote E2560
[08:57] <ormiret> http://www.simpletech.com/upgrades/packardbell/easynote/e2560intelceleronm36014ghz/
[08:59] <Grey_Loki> http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=CT64M64S4W75
[08:59] <Grey_Loki> That's the type, but i'm not sure what the speed of mine is - 133, 100, or whatever the other one is.
[09:01] <ormiret> The site I found said it was 133 DDR
[09:02] <Grey_Loki> If you mismatch it, the higher just runs at the speed of the lower, correct?
[09:03] <ormiret> yes
[09:03] <Grey_Loki> Not life and death, then.
[09:04] <ormiret> I don't know runnung RAM slower than it is can go seems fairly serious...
[09:04] <Grey_Loki> I'll send an email to Bell, ask them the speed.
[09:05] <Grey_Loki> 512MB of 133Mhz looks mighty attractive though - should make this machine zip along rather nicely.
[09:06] <mlc> hello all
[09:07] <mlc> I have a question
[09:07] <Grey_Loki> Fire away, mlc
[09:07] <mlc> about installing ok, thx
[09:08] <mlc> I have Thunar and it does not work wvery well
[09:08] <mlc> so I want to install newer version...
[09:08] <mlc> version: 0.4.1svn-r23151
[09:08] <mlc> How do I install  a newer/better version?
[09:09] <chewychomp> help- refresh rate reverts back to 60hz, when i want 75hz, i sudo nvida-settings change the refresh rate, restart x and its back to 60hz, took out 1280X1024@60 in xconf too, always changes the metamode back to 60hz
[09:09] <Grey_Loki> Hrm. Have you tried 'sudo apt-get upgrade thunar'?
[09:09] <chewychomp> audo apt-get thunar?
[09:09] <chewychomp> sudo
[09:09] <mlc> no
[09:09] <mlc> on the site it just says "download"
[09:09] <Grey_Loki> Give that a go
[09:09] <mlc> I'l  try
[09:09] <Grey_Loki> I prefer to get things through either synaptic or apt-get - it's just easier ^.^
[09:10] <chewychomp> apt-get will download and install for you
[09:10] <mlc> it says it doesn't need upgrade
[09:10] <chewychomp> then u have latest
[09:10] <Grey_Loki> There we are, then :)
[09:10] <Grey_Loki> What is it about thunar that you don't like?
[09:10] <mlc> but online it says a newer version is available
[09:10] <Grey_Loki> it's probably their latest unstable version
[09:10] <mlc> haha
[09:10] <mlc> do you have Thunar?
[09:10] <mlc> I like ik but it is buggy
[09:11] <chewychomp> how so?
[09:11] <Grey_Loki> Unless there's something in the changelog that you explicitly need, i'd just wait until it gets uploaded to the repositories.
[09:11] <mlc> ok
[09:11] <mlc> well
[09:11] <mlc> uhm how do I say it
[09:11] <mlc> left and right hand window
[09:11] <chewychomp> help- refresh rate reverts back to 60hz, when i want 75hz, i sudo nvida-settings change the refresh rate, restart x and its back to 60hz, took out 1280X1024@60 in xconf too, always changes the metamode back to 60hz
[09:11] <mlc> when I change something in the righthandwindow, the lefthandwindow seems not to get it anymore
[09:12] <mlc> uhm
[09:12] <mlc> many times the same directory displayed
[09:12] <mlc> when you click on it, it goes away. comes back, etc!
[09:12] <mlc> very weird behavior
[09:13] <mlc> but the speed of xubuntu is so good that I want to stay
[09:13] <mlc> although these sorts of things happen
[09:14] <mlc> chewycomp or grayloki, what can I do about the problem?
[09:14] <Grey_Loki> Hmm. There are several alternative file managers out and around. XFFM for one, and I think that Konqueror is another one.
[09:15] <chewychomp> loki u have any ideas about getting my refresh rate to stick?
[09:16] <mlc> xffm, is that quick?
[09:16] <mlc> I don not have a very quick pc
[09:16] <Grey_Loki> chewychomp, no, i'd have said, otherwise.
[09:16] <Grey_Loki> Have you tried searching the (x)ubuntu forums?
[09:16] <mlc> oh, I searched until I drop
[09:16] <Grey_Loki> mlc - I haven't used it, but it's the file manager for XFCE, so i'd imagine it would be fairly fast.
[09:17] <mlc> well, I try xffm then :)
[09:17] <mlc> how do I use xffm instead of thunar?
[09:17] <mlc> should I uninstaal thunar first?
[09:17] <Grey_Loki> I'd leave it, just in case seomthing goes wrong.
[09:17] <Grey_Loki> They shouldn't interfere with eah other.
[09:17] <mlc> ok, but how do I choose
[09:18] <mlc> between the two
[09:18] <Grey_Loki> Hrm. I just tried 'sudo apt-get install xffm', and it couldn't find the package - try doing a search in synaptic for it.
[09:19] <mlc> it s xffm4
[09:19] <mlc> ;)
[09:19] <Grey_Loki> Heh
[09:19] <Grey_Loki> !xffm4
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xffm4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <mlc> what? factoids
[09:20] <mlc> whats that
[09:20] <Grey_Loki> A list of useful things
[09:20] <Grey_Loki> !nvidia
[09:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:20] <Grey_Loki> Things like that.
[09:20] <mlc> ok
[09:20] <mlc> I drown in that site!
[09:21] <TheSheep> I think that xffm is no longer developed
[09:21] <mlc> sorry for being such a rookie.... this is my first time on IRC
[09:22] <TheSheep> they recommend emelFM2 on http://wiki.xfce.org/recommendedapps
[09:23] <TheSheep> mlc: btw, what version of xubuntu do you use?
[09:23] <TheSheep> mlc: the bug seems worth reporting
[09:24] <mlc> ehn
[09:24] <mlc> 4.3.99.1
[09:24] <mlc> can't seem to update that too
[09:25] <TheSheep> so it's Edgy
[09:25] <mlc> yes !
[09:25] <TheSheep> I've never heard of a similar bug, but you might try on http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <mlc> I have installed xffm4
[09:26] <mlc> let's see what it does
[09:26] <TheSheep> mlc: if it's not described there yet, add it -- try to describe the behavior
[09:26] <mlc> oh, ok
[09:26] <mlc> can I post pictures there? And where is it?
[09:26] <mlc> oh sorry
[09:26] <mlc> I see it
[09:27] <mlc> I can not find emelfm2 with apt-cache search emelfm2
[09:27] <mlc> !!
[09:28] <mlc> thunar is SOO unstable, unbelievable
[09:29] <mlc> I thought it would be so stable to have xubuntu.. :(
[09:29] <TheSheep> mlc: it's stable for me, and was stable when I used Edgy too
[09:29] <TheSheep> mlc: it must be something specific to your computer
[09:29] <mlc> hm!
[09:30] <mlc> the sky is darkening for my sweet pc's future... ;)
[09:30] <mlc> shall I throw it from my apartment? :):)
[09:31] <mlc> I don't  know what will happen now, but I will restart
[09:31] <mlc> see you soon, I probably will be back
[09:33] <digits> Hello dudes (and hopefully dudettes), i've just installed xubuntu (my first xfce try) on the old farts computer, and i have some small questions... 1) how do i make a desktop icon shortcut for firefox (as example) and 2) is there a rather nice theme that does not take alot of screen estate - he's running 800x600...
[09:35] <crdlb> digits, you can't raise the resolution up?
[09:35] <crdlb> you can just raise the DPI to make the text bigger
[09:36] <digits> crdlb: nah, hes eyes are quitting on him, so he can't read onscreen without glasses above that res (and ofcourse he doesn't knwo where he has them at any given point)
[09:36] <digits> crdlb: ooh, didn't think about that... goog sugggestion gotta try
[09:37] <crdlb> that's what I do, 1280x960, with the DPI up really high
[09:38] <digits> giving it a try :)
[09:38] <digits> crdlb: while we're at it, how do i make a desktop icon shortcut?
[09:38] <crdlb> dnd isn't working?
[09:38] <crdlb> I don't currrently have xfce installed
[09:39] <mlc> hell0o
[09:39] <chewychomp> help- refresh rate reverts back to 60hz, when i want 75hz, -i sudo nvida-settings -change the refresh rate, restart x and its back to 60hz, took out 1280X1024@60 in xconf too- nvidia-settings always changes the metamode back to 60hz
[09:39] <digits> crdlb: dnd?
[09:39] <mlc> I forgot to say big thanks to you
[09:39] <crdlb> drag-and-drop
[09:39] <digits> crdlb: d'uh... gotta lay off the wine ;P
[09:40] <liz_> I installed xubuntu-desktop ontop on ubuntu and it works well but i have one small annoyance........it brings up 2 instances of nm-applet on startup and i dont even see it listed at all under automatically started applications
[09:41] <mlc> chewycomp, nvidia drivers are proprietary, aren't they?
[09:41] <digits> i'm at my parents place, and he's got this old PII-300 that he uses for googling and reading mail (with a 10GB fiber!), thought that I'd ease my vacations (which currently is wine and virus hunting) with some nice linux-ware :)
[09:41] <mlc> liz, how do the applets look
[09:42] <mlc> right-click on them
[09:42] <liz_> its nm-applet
[09:42] <mlc> yes, but I don't know that
[09:42] <liz_> i guess its from my gnome stuff
[09:42] <mlc> hm
[09:42] <liz_> it sits in the notification area
[09:43] <liz_> so i guess im wondering what scripts run on session startup so that i can check them
[09:44] <mlc> hm
[09:44] <mlc> network manager applet
[09:44] <mlc> what happens when you right click on it
[09:45] <liz_> it has options to manage wireless and wired networking
[09:45] <mlc> n the Gnome menus go to Desktop : Preferences : More Preferences : Sessions
[09:45] <mlc> Under the 'Startup Programs' tab,
[09:46] <mlc> there must be something you can use
[09:46] <mlc> I don't have gnome but it might work
[09:46] <mlc> digits, good lcuk
[09:47] <liz_> mlc: well i'll play around but i've already looked in there
[09:47] <digits> mlc: thanks, i give myself about 20 minutes before getting under the knife :P
[09:48] <digits> crdlb: btw, can i change the dpi without having to restart X?
[09:48] <mlc> digits: should be possible
[09:49] <mlc> goodbye!!!
[09:50] <crdlb> digits, in the interface prefs I think you can
[09:50] <crdlb> (you definitely can in gnome)
[09:51] <digits> crdlb: ok... i'm a console dude myself so i don't have a clue ;P
[09:58] <dim> hi
[09:59] <dim> I'm having a few problems with wifi-radar under xubuntu feisty beta
[09:59] <dim> I get: "Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf'."
[09:59] <dim> am I missing something?
[10:00] <digits> that file is either broken or missing, is my guess...
[10:04] <TheSheep> !wifi | dim
[10:04] <ubotu> dim: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:05] <Carsten> Hello there...
[10:07] <Carsten> Anyone has nerves and some time to could give me a clue on es-1689 soundcard problem on a notebook? I looked up too much now I wanna start from scratch
[10:11] <Carsten> I do not see problems in BIOS (no conflicts) but i do not know how to configure the modprobe options ...
[10:11] <Carsten> BIOS says: irq5 that makes options irq=5
[10:11] <Carsten> BIOS says DMA ch 0  -> dma=1
[10:11] <Carsten> next line DMA ch 1 -> dma=1?
[10:12] <Carsten> or dma0=0
[10:12] <Carsten> dma1=1?
[10:12] <Carsten> then there are three differen i/o ranges...
[10:12] <Carsten> 0x0220-0x0227
[10:12] <Carsten> 0x0388-0x0388
[10:12] <Carsten> 0x0330-0x0331
[10:12] <Carsten> whats "port" then?
[10:13] <Carsten> whats "mpu_port" then?
[10:13] <Carsten> a forth range is not in "PNP" but in "Controler Interface" i/o 0x0250-0x0257
[10:17] <Carsten> anyone?
[10:54] <totalwormage> Carsten: try #ubuntu, there doesn't seem to be any technical ppl around here
[10:54] <totalwormage> OH FRELL
[10:54] <totalwormage> i did it again
[10:54] <totalwormage> sorry
[10:54] <totalwormage> nm that :] 
[11:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Carsten: You shouldn't need to specify any options when you load the module - just load it, and let the kernel handle resource allocation.
[11:31] <Carsten> Pumper... thx Ill try
[11:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ...he didn't try yet? O_O
[11:51] <Joss> hi!!! good afternoon from MExico!!!
[11:58] <Joss> how many need for my partition / i have 30 Gb!!!
[11:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Maybe around 8GB.  That's what I use, and I've never filled it - most of my files are in /home.
[12:01] <Joss> thanks... i have 9 Gb for / and the last form /home.:D