[12:24] Naughtyboy: notice the foot icon on the menu and when you unpack the "Theme-Pack" is has a Gnome directory in there .... this guy just made the theme for both gnome and xfce but he is running gnome [12:25] aha OK...so GTK works a little different in gnome compared to xfwm4 ..? [12:26] Naughtyboy: no, but Gnome menus are written a little differently than xfce menus ;) [12:27] ok..I see [12:28] Naughtyboy: actually I think Gnome does have some custom gtk extensions that are part of their gnome-libs which is why when we put applications in xubuntu that have gnome-libs the developers remove those dependencies and recompile with the equvalent "pure gtk" libraries === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [12:31] maxamillion, ..OK..yeah well..you would know better than me.. [12:31] ;=) [12:32] :) [12:33] well ... gnome libraries are really bloated and require extra resources which results in a slower program, that's actually the original reason we don't use them ... but meh [12:33] yeah..well sometime u just have to...I guess.. [12:34] 'k, so the message I get when I try to use the GDM theme is "The greeter application appears to be crashing, attempting to use another one." [12:34] A 3rd party GDM theme* === SportChick [n=essy@freenode/staff/sportchick] has joined #xubuntu [12:36] damn this desktop I just put together is sexy LOL ...this puppy is going out on "April Desktop Thread" in the ubuntu forums... [12:36] ShiftOptionK: that's not good .... i honestly have no clue why it would be doing that :( [12:36] !language | Naughtyboy [12:36] Naughtyboy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [12:36] ;) [12:37] maxamillion: I'm totally drawing a blank at why this is happening and what I should do about it [12:37] It happens with every 3rd party theme I've tried so far [12:37] Naughtyboy: also, on the screenshot on that theme's page look at the Terminal window ... Gnome terminal is the one that has a "tabs" menu, not xfce ;) [12:38] w00t....exactly wich one of the words was unfriendly....the D work or the S word ...? [12:38] the D [12:38] the S is tollerable and i don't mind [12:39] ok then...thnx for pointing it out [12:39] i don't think its that bad, but we attempt to appeal to all present or potentially present users ..... [12:39] no prob, just doing my duties :) [12:39] yeah.. [12:39] ;=) === ShiftOptionK [n=nick@adsl-75-4-243-16.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:41] 'k, so I got the SystemAccess theme to work [12:42] What does the "Enable accessible login" checkbox do? === g4h [n=server50@adsl-75-45-161-160.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:45] ok, well that sucks. apparently the update hosed xfce [12:46] whats the best way to go about reinstalling xfce? === Xtreem_ [n=Xtreem@rummers.force9.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === ShiftOptionK [n=nick@adsl-75-4-243-16.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:47] g4h: what update? [12:47] Yeup, the "Accessible Login" checkbox did it [12:47] apt-get moo [12:47] heh, wrong window [12:47] g4h: lol [12:49] and the upgrade* i was working on from edgy to 6.10? === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] it had that previously mentioned hangup while force restarting mono-samba, then i got past that and it was mocing along fine till i looked over and noticed i had a black screen with nothing but a mouse pointer [12:51] g4h: edgy is 6.10 [12:51] so figured whatev, just let it do its thing, but after a while i noticed it wasnt doing anything, hit my shutdown hotkey and it brought the window up but all the characters were boxes. knowing which one was restart, i did so and yeah...its b0rked [12:52] hmm...something in my system disagreed [12:52] because thats what i thought, too [12:52] strange ... [12:53] i can get a root prompt just fine under recovery mode, but regular boot gets past login and hangs [12:53] reverting to prompt under normal boot lets me login as well, so i'm assuming its just xfce [12:54] :( [12:54] well ... i really have to go [12:54] ttyl [12:59] File a bug report please. [01:02] ... [01:02] i'll get right on that as soon as my server is running again [01:04] how do i go about reinstalling xfce? [01:05] its still hanging after login === Howdy125 [n=Howdy125@c-76-104-129-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:11] Does xfce start completely before freezing? [01:11] Or does it freeze as soon as you hit enter? [01:12] after i hit enter, the login window closes, giving a blank desktop, no menus or icons, and a mobile mouse cursor [01:13] edgy themes === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-10486.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu === Koba_ [n=koba@S01060004e2d67427.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:45] Koba: ever get the network settings running on DSL [01:46] Koba: that was you right? === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-152-40-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === sigmamu188 [n=jwheeler@cpe-70-116-80-78.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === Shaba1 [n=SanDayGo@ip68-101-167-142.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Sharn [n=dino@dsl-216-128-233-200.teton.id.tetontel.com] has joined #xubuntu === Naughtyboy is now known as naughty-ZzzZZz [02:10] Hello [02:10] :P [02:10] salutations sharn [02:10] Anyone ever use an applet called ksayit? [02:11] Shaba1, I haven't. Why? [02:12] just wondering. I downloaded it when I was looking around for stuff with synaptic [02:12] It is suppose to speak pasted in text [02:12] but it does not [02:12] I am wondering if its my Ram or slower processor [02:13] or just that it does not run on xubuntu === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-10486.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [02:13] Not sure, never really heard of it. [02:13] Like, text you paste directly into it? [02:13] yes [02:14] Oh, that's odd... [02:14] You have sound everywhere else? [02:14] well the play button presses [02:14] and it say sythesising [02:14] in the status bar [02:15] but nothing even sounds out [02:15] Shaba1: are you missing and dependencies? [02:15] Its no big deal [02:15] Sounds like is uses ALSA or something to output sound, maybe. Unless you have that all setup. [02:15] Its just something I thought would be cute to play with b [02:16] t I am wondering why it does not wrok [02:17] I jsut typed something into it [02:17] Nada [02:17] check you dependencies!! [02:18] Shaba1: also see if it uses gnome or kde [02:19] you might not have the right services running === Krunsj [n=a@ti231210a080-10486.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [02:29] How do I get back to the desktop once the screen saver kicks in [02:31] Just hit a key... [02:31] Unless I'm missing something? === Krunsj [n=a@ti231210a080-10486.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [02:54] guys [02:55] is anyone here [02:56] bout to eat [02:56] brbr === thomaslai [n=thomasla@cm190.sigma112.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #xubuntu [02:57] I'm still here [02:57] Kindof. :P === icicled [n=icicled@adsl-209-30-164-212.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:58] Sharn [02:58] my screen saver on my laptop kicked in [02:58] now I cannot get back to the desktp [02:59] do I have to type in my password to get it back? [02:59] NOpe that did not work [02:59] How do I get the desktop back [03:00] it should be you password [03:01] do I have to enter the user name too? === Carsten [i=Carsten@x421aa.wh10.tu-dresden.de] has joined #xubuntu [03:01] hi I have some problem launching thunar file manager in Xubuntu 6.10, it complains abt dbus [03:01] no [03:01] just ps [03:02] Hello. I need some help on sound at 6.06 - anyone can/wanna help? [03:02] err pw [03:02] Shaba1: i had that problem testing feather on an old laptop, it just stayed black. I enver got it out.=\ [03:02] ill try [03:02] thx [03:02] I have ubuntu-gnome installed as well, I installed xubuntu-desktop to try [03:02] i just turned it off and back on [03:02] how do I adjust that behavious [03:03] Carsten: whats the sound problem? [03:03] becaue this is the 5th time since I installed xubuntu on sunday that that happened [03:03] 6.06 I fail to find "snd-es18xx" modprobe is negative -- do I have to install? [03:03] sigmamu188: find / -name snd-es18 was negative [03:04] you might need to install [03:04] install what? [03:04] Shaba1: i don't know. Sorry. I have yet to find a screensaver config deal [03:04] this sucks [03:04] sigmamu188: i googeled for it, but couldn't get the appropriate apt-get line [03:04] and they say linux is better then window in all regards [03:04] fro the driver? [03:05] sigmamu188: yes [03:05] Not in this one [03:05] Carsten: what sound card are you using [03:05] sigmamu188: My computer(!) ^^ uses ESS1869 [03:05] Shaba1: no offense, but no one said it's better than windows in every way [03:06] sigmamu188: I've red a lot about THAT today... it's an old notebook Compaq Armada 1750 [03:06] sigmamu188: I tried likely too much [03:06] lol [03:06] Someone else may be able to help, but I can't. =\ [03:06] sigmamu188: versus /etc/modules [03:06] ok mouse just locked up [03:07] sigmamu188: If you can help me on these two questions, I'll be fine... [03:07] sigmamu188: (1) Where do I get snd-es18xx (.o)? [03:07] Carsten: ill try ive only been using linux for a year nw [03:08] sigmamu188: (2) do you know where 6.06 (DD) does store the vital sound data... like where exatcly to put those aliases and options-lines? [03:08] sigmamu188: thx for that [03:09] unbuntu [03:09] Shaba1? [03:10] try gksudo mousepad /etc/modeprobe.d/alsa-base not for sure === johnnybigoode [n=johnnybi@200.205.17.251] has joined #xubuntu [03:11] sigmamu188: rgr. done that [03:11] opens a text-file... [03:11] any thing in there? [03:12] sigmamu188: no specific - looks like generic one [03:12] this sucks [03:12] sigmamu188: stuff like this driver is bad therefore index=-2 [03:12] http://www.oliyiptong.com/blog/category/open-source/ go to that page === icicled [n=icicled@adsl-209-30-163-245.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] scroll down to old hardware help in ubuntu [03:13] sigmamu188: saw that before today, rgr will do [03:14] sigmamu188: will try with you now, thx [03:14] now its locked again [03:14] it says to create a file named soundcard in /etc/modprobe.d/ [03:14] sigmamu188: rgr i've done that [03:14] open it [03:14] but modprobe snd-es18xx fails [03:14] FATAL... .o not there [03:15] ok will do [03:15] anyone, how do I check dbus version? [03:15] sigmamu188: open [03:16] alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 [03:16] alias snd-card-0 snd-es18xx [03:16] options snd-es18xx enable=1 isapnp=0 port=0220 mpu_port=0388 fm_port=0330 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=5 [03:16] in there [03:16] do you have alsa installes [03:16] sigmamu188: affirmative [03:16] installed [03:16] sigmamu188: apt-get alsa alsa-utils alsa-base [03:16] sigmamu188: rgr [03:16] Ok I just turned it off for good [03:16] I got tired of the lock ups [03:17] sigmamu188: i carefully checked the file "soundcard" and compared to the BIOS settings [03:17] while DMA1=1 DMA2=0 [03:17] sigmamu188: i tried both [03:17] hmm [03:18] sigmamu188: modprobe: ... FATAL: Module snd_es18xx not found. Even after update-modules [03:18] sigmamu188: How does the system know to check "soundcard" when I request "snd-es18xx"? [03:19] did you set the mpu port fm port and irq? [03:19] sigmamu188: one webpage even told to CREATE snd-es18xx as file [03:19] in the options like on [03:19] sigmamu188: rgr everything according to the BIOD [03:19] line* in the file [03:19] sigmamu188: err: BIOS [03:19] hmm [03:19] sigmamu188: I ve been on that for some hours now... =/ [03:20] did you install the alsa drivers? [03:20] rgr [03:20] sigmamu188: accroding to http://magiex.netfirms.com/ [03:21] sigmamu188: section: ALSA [03:21] sigmamu188: while this reads ex1688(!) [03:21] sigmamu188: es1688(!) [03:22] sigmamu188: also alsaconf cannot be found after installing above called packages.. alsa-utils should include "alsaconf" [03:22] sigmamu188: idea: i did not freed any repositories... it's fresh Xubuntu from alternate CDROM and language via internet [03:23] so you installed alsa, alsa-utils alsa-base [03:23] sigmamu188: rgr [03:23] and asla driver [03:23] sigmamu188: rgr (as mentioned above "3 files") [03:24] sigmamu188: actual DRIVER, UTILS and LIB [03:24] sigmamu188: after pushing also stuff like bin-utils +++++ i was able to ./configure and ./make them [03:26] im totally stumped [03:26] sigmamu188: someone mentioned an .gz version of this driver somewhere under /kernel... but find didnt make it out [03:26] sigmamu188: welcome to the club.. [03:27] sigmamu188: i am looking for a rough basic introduction into sound system of 6.06 [03:27] ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/ [03:27] so i can rebuild and reload driver (snd-es18xx) [03:28] Uhn . . . newbie here, I was looking tru the SPM, why isn't firefox 2 on place of firefox 1.5 ? Should I upgrade to firefox 1.5 ? [03:29] http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0.0.3&os=linux&lang=en-US [03:30] firefox 2.0 === Carsten_ [i=Carsten@x421aa.wh10.tu-dresden.de] has joined #xubuntu [03:30] I know where to download . . . I was just wondering if there are any problems with firefox 2, [03:30] Or a good reason not to have firefox 2 in the SPM and have firefox 1.5 [03:30] i am back .. it crashed =( [03:30] the ftp? [03:31] sigmamu188: no my win ^^ [03:31] ok back with you guys [03:31] that sucks [03:31] sigmamu188: i've found alsaconf at alsa [03:31] where do i pack it? [03:31] into /sbin? [03:31] let me check [03:31] unpack, ./configute ; make ; make install? [03:32] 0.4.3? [03:32] cd /usr/src [03:32] mkdir alsa [03:32] cd alsa [03:32] kk === AmyRose_ [n=amyrose@user-12l2tg3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:32] install all your alsa stuff there [03:33] bunzip2 alsa-driver-xxx [03:33] tar -xf alsa-driver-xxx [03:33] cd alsa-driver-xxx [03:33] ./configure --with-cards=es1688 --with-sequencer=yes;make;make install [03:33] ./snddevices [03:33] anyone know how to shut off the xbuntu screen saver? [03:34] applications > settings > screensaver [03:34] yeah I got there [03:34] sigmamu188: thats what i done according to the webpage yea [03:34] but there does not seem to be a setting to shut it off [03:34] sigmamu188: running now alsaconf (NEW!) [03:36] anyone [03:36] sigmamu188: alsaconf aborts [03:36] restart x after setting the settings [03:36] hmm [03:36] sigmamu188: assumption: cannot find snd-es18xx [03:36] Hello [03:36] shabal [03:36] restart x after setting the settings [03:36] anyone know how to shut off the xbuntu screen saver? [03:37] shaba: shutting down x = CTRL ALT BACKSPACE [03:37] or right top corner... click [03:37] that gest to a termina window though does it now [03:37] not [03:37] I wan to keep the desktop [03:37] shaba... restart x [03:37] HOW [03:37] thats what you need to do after changing the settings, if i got him right [03:37] you just said a lot of stuff but no instructions [03:38] shaba.. ok [03:38] where are you know [03:38] is x running? [03:38] turning on the laptop [03:38] after changing the screen saver settings in applications > settings > screensaver [03:38] reset x by typing sudo shutdown now -r [03:38] ^^ [03:38] then see if the settings are applied [03:39] hold on [03:39] cool [03:39] its booting [03:39] sigmamu188: ... alsaconf aborts [03:39] sigmamu188: looks like i am simply lacking snd-es18xx [03:39] you got the drivers installed properly? [03:40] sigmamu188: the (above mentioned steps on webpage including ./configure; make ; make install took long, did not abort and went off with final non-error messages.. so i assume: yes [03:41] did you do the chmod command afterwards === johnnybigoode [n=johnnybi@200.205.17.251] has left #xubuntu [] [03:42] Hold on [03:42] it booted to windwos by mistake === AmyRose [n=amyrose@user-12l2tg3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:42] Carsten: i just kinda going by the website and trying to help you trouble shoot i really dont have much experiance with alsa [03:42] Shaba1: its cool [03:43] sigmamu188: i did chmod a+rw... [03:43] sigmamu188: i tried some it found snd_(!)es1688 [03:44] Ok at the desktop now what [03:44] check in applications>settings> screensaver and see if shows the screen saver as disabled [03:45] Applications----> Settings----manager [03:45] now what [03:45] NO it does not [03:45] ok is you problem when it locks on ss?\ [03:45] and now the mouse is locked [03:46] yes thats it === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.222.20.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] and when I go to the screen saver setting [03:46] this is riduculous [03:46] do you see a box labled lock screen after [time] [03:46] yes and it is NOT checked [03:46] hmm [03:47] are you running kde or gnome? [03:47] OK powering down again [03:47] nope whatever installed with xubuntu [03:47] they both are [03:47] lol [03:47] I think that is called xfre [03:48] xfce [03:48] but it starts probably with gnome services running if i am not mistaken [03:48] rebooting again [03:48] when you reboot [03:48] open the process manager [03:48] HOW!!!! [03:48] hold on [03:49] applications > system > processmanager [03:49] please dont yell i am trying to help [03:49] I know [03:49] but sayign something with out giving instructions as to how is frustrating me [03:50] i understand i will try to be more descriptive with my instructions [03:50] I spent the last 7 hours going thru the same thing with the people in php-gtk [03:50] after opening process manager via the command above [03:50] oK i AM THERE [03:50] find the command named xscreensaver [03:51] sorry I hit the caplock by mistake that time [03:51] rightclick on xscreensaver and select kill [03:51] its ok [03:51] Ok got that [03:51] ok i should stay off for now [03:52] huh?? [03:52] now im going to try to find a more perminate fix for you [03:52] you are not going to finish [03:52] oh sorry [03:52] i need to find the probper way to perminatly dissable it [03:52] its cool [03:52] sigmamu188: thx for concern... i am getting too tired now... sorry [03:52] I did not read that line about set kill [03:53] but the thing is I would not mind it if it would act like a windows screen saver and just come back on when you moved the mouse or hit a keyboard key [03:53] Carsten_: sorry i could not help try taking to maxamillion the next time he is on here [03:53] he is the man [03:53] typically it should [03:53] im not sure why it wont work [03:54] It just locks up the whole screen and keyboard and mouse [03:54] sigmamu188: thx. me too bro, me too [03:54] sigmamu188: Greetings from GMT/UTC+2 [03:54] you should install the new beta [03:55] sigmamu188: shutdown -h now [03:55] CST USA! [03:55] night [03:55] sigmamu188: actual 4am [03:55] 9 pm here [03:55] sigmamu188: *dazzle* [03:55] \bye. === Carsten_ [i=Carsten@x421aa.wh10.tu-dresden.de] has left #xubuntu [] [03:55] damn even with that off when I go into the screen saver settign the dcomputer locks up [03:56] It just did it again [03:56] wait and see if it unlocks [03:56] it might be a ram issue [03:56] I rebooted === spasticteapot [n=joseph@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === spasticteapot [n=joseph@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has left #xubuntu [] [04:08] i cant figure out a way to perminatly disable [04:08] i have to take care of a few errands, i will try to keep working on the problem [04:08] and get back to you [04:09] i will be back tonight and usually one here every day [04:09] keep asking people they might be able to better help you [04:09] but you have a temp fix for now by killing it in the process manager === posingaspopular [i=eddie@adsl-69-209-76-223.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:14] !feisty [04:14] The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) === AmyRose_ [n=amyrose@user-12l2tg3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] hey im looking to install xubuntu feisty, and im downloading the file from http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ but i have no idea how to burn an .iso in windows. help? === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === vorian_ [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-70-106-17-43.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:29] um I just installed an new (and only) IDE HDD [04:29] how do I find it via command line? [04:35] its working fine though? [04:42] pico /etc/mtab should list it === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-175-113.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === joejaxx [i=joejaxx@fluxbuntu/founder/joejaxx] has joined #xubuntu [04:53] I got it [04:54] to upgrade [04:54] ? === Shaba1 [n=nunya@ip68-101-167-142.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:51] Hello anyone here? === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-176-188.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-192-210.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-192-210.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:08] somewhat, Shaba1 [06:08] wow [06:08] never mind [06:08] I forgot what I was going to ask now [06:09] one of many reasons we encourage people to 'just ask' =p [06:10] like so [06:11] so okay, how do i change the permissions for a user home folder so i can access them remotely through samba? [06:12] the folder perms, not the samba ones. those i have tackled. [06:18] g4h: File mode bits can be change by using the chmod command or right clicking the folder in thunar. However, I'm surprised you can't read the folder with the default settings. [06:19] I don't have access to thunar otherwise this would be solved, hehe [06:19] a botched upgrade has me stuck in terminal and i'm just backing up files before i wipe the install [06:21] and yeah it momentarilly threw me off that i couldnt access that one, but no worries as long as i can figure out how to fix it ~.^ [06:22] hello guys [06:22] and ladies if there are any in a techie room [06:24] there are. try not to assume otherwise =P [06:24] I did not [06:24] that is why I added the "and ladies" === g4h nods, "it's a hot topic with some so thought i'd give you a running start before you're accosted for it" [06:25] <.< [06:25] >.> [06:26] happen to remember what you were going to ask yet? [06:29] nope [06:29] I hate getting old === posingaspopular [i=eddie@adsl-69-209-76-223.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ramla [n=ramla@a88-115-147-170.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu === mkquist [n=michael@h-69-3-128-92.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu === icicled [n=icicled@adsl-209-30-163-245.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === moparisthebest [n=FBI@cpe-69-133-96-111.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === geekunit [n=geekunit@68-112-27-227.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === j1mmc [n=jim@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:18] is there anything else besides grabbing updates i should do to keep my xubuntu install secure? [07:19] geekunit, i'm not a security expert, but . . . if you just want something simple, i've heard good things about firestarter as a software-based firewall. [07:20] jlmmc: cool, i'll check it out [07:21] bastille if you're really serious === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-6975.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [07:29] i have xubuntu on my secondary drive. i can't seem to access hda1 with fdisk though === Buddha| [n=mike@adsl-220-137-221.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu === Buddha| [n=mike@adsl-220-137-221.gnv.bellsouth.net] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] [07:29] geekunit, what version of xubuntu are you running? [07:30] jlmmc: the newest, fiesty fawn [07:31] geekunit, with feisty, they changed the drive lettering scheme. try /dev/sda1 [07:32] ahhh.. why? [07:32]