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| cliebow_ | Whoa: last updates healed my wireless card.. | 12:33 |
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| sbalneav | Evening all | 02:19 |
| Burgwork | hey sbalneav | 02:20 |
| sbalneav | Hello Burgwork | 02:21 |
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| Em`Zee | I'm getting errors with ltsp-build-client... | 03:49 |
| Em`Zee | root@heidi:~# ltsp-build-client --arch powerpc | 03:49 |
| Em`Zee | ERROR: --arch powerpc called on unsupported arch: i686,error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally | 03:49 |
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| sbalneav | Em`Zee: What are you trying to build it on? | 03:59 |
| sbalneav | A i386 based machine? | 03:59 |
| Em`Zee | sbalneav; Yes.... that's bad, I take it. | 03:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | its unsupported ;) | 03:59 |
| Em`Zee | D'oh. | 03:59 |
| Em`Zee | Is there any way to boot Sparc/PPC off of an Edubuntu i386 LTSP server ? | 03:59 |
| sbalneav | Sure | 04:00 |
| Em`Zee | Basically I'm running a lab with ancient computers, SPARCstations, and pre-Intel Macs. | 04:00 |
| sbalneav | But you'll need to build the chroots on Sparc/PPC machines respectively | 04:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | <3 sparcstations | 04:00 |
| Em`Zee | sbalneav; would I just take an edubuntu livecd and basically tar the tree? | 04:00 |
| sbalneav | Then tarball them up, and stick 'em in /opt/ltsp on the i386 | 04:00 |
| sbalneav | Em`Zee: No, install edubuntu on a sparc, then do the ltsp-build-client on the sparc. | 04:01 |
| Em`Zee | got it | 04:01 |
| Em`Zee | Next (probably stupid) question... | 04:01 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser thinks debs to install a basic chroot would be cool (for just this purpose) | ||
| Em`Zee | Does it matter, X binary-wise on multiplatform? | 04:01 |
| sbalneav | At one point, we were talking about having pre-built chroots available for download and untar, don't know if that's been done yet. | 04:01 |
| Em`Zee | It runs all binaries on the central server, no exceptions, yes? | 04:01 |
| sbalneav | No! That's one of the beauties of X | 04:02 |
| sbalneav | Sparc client == PPC client == Intel client, for X | 04:02 |
| Em`Zee | woo. | 04:02 |
| Em`Zee | :D | 04:02 |
| Em`Zee | LTSP saved my life for adminning the lab. LTSP is <3 | 04:02 |
| Em`Zee | Anyways | 04:02 |
| Em`Zee | when I do the chroots for Sparc and PPC I'll post them on my websie | 04:02 |
| Em`Zee | *website | 04:02 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, when you run firefox on a sparc client, you're running the firefox on the i386 box, but the pretty bits display on the sparc. | 04:03 |
| sbalneav | That's why I got involved in helping to develop LTSP 7 years ago: it's such an awsome paradigm | 04:03 |
| Em`Zee | My plans eventually include syncing authentication to an LDAP server | 04:04 |
| Em`Zee | instead of having root@heidi:~# ltsp-build-client --arch powerpc | 04:04 |
| Em`Zee | ERROR: --arch powerpc called on unsupported arch: i686,error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally | 04:04 |
| Em`Zee | whoops | 04:04 |
| Em`Zee | hehe stupid clipboard | 04:04 |
| Em`Zee | anyways, instead of making one account for each machine | 04:04 |
| Em`Zee | (we name our machines after [not my idea] porn stars >.<) | 04:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | LMAO | 04:04 |
| Em`Zee | Yeah so we have "Tawnee Stone", "Tori Stone", "Linda Lovelace", "Heidi Fleiss", "Aurora Snow" all on one wall | 04:07 |
| Em`Zee | those are some of the LTSP machines | 04:07 |
| Em`Zee | the windows ones are named after male porn stars | 04:07 |
| Em`Zee | the Mac ones used to be Transvestites but then we decided to quit supporting mac in the lab | 04:07 |
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| racter | so can i use the live cd to boot a machine in thinclient mode? | 04:08 |
| racter | the bios on this machine doesn't seem to know about netboot | 04:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | racter, no, but iirc you can do boot floppies | 04:10 |
| sbalneav | racter: No, but you can go to rom-o-matic.net, and download a etherboot floppy image for your network card. | 04:10 |
| racter | it has to be floppy or is there a way i can use a CD? | 04:12 |
| sbalneav | There's CD images there too. | 04:15 |
| === Em`Zee needs to find some tiny old HDs and put netboot images on them :\ | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | :/ | 04:20 |
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| cliebow | Em`Zee, i have tarballs for ppc | 01:10 |
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| ernierasta | I have a question, how can I install programs on client (I am using edubuntu 7.04 as ltsp server, server is amd64, but clients i386)? I set up everything, and it is working, but I want to install x11vnc on client. Is there someone who want give me some advices? | 06:45 |
| ernierasta | it is question about ltsp | 06:46 |
| merriam | ernierasta: chroot to /opt/ltsp/i386/ or similar. | 06:47 |
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| merriam | But I've done that and I still couldn't make x11vnc work. | 06:47 |
| ernierasta | merriam: i know, but in chroot apt-get can not find x11vnc | 06:48 |
| merriam | You need to change the sources... | 06:49 |
| jgedeon_ | ernierasta: this will help understand sources https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/LTSPManagement | 06:49 |
| ernierasta | thank you, i have not much experiences with debian-based distros | 06:49 |
| cliebow | merriam:i am usiong it alot in 4.2..not sure about 5...you get xlib error? | 06:51 |
| merriam | cliebow: I've been running edubuntu feisty beta with defaults. I forget the details. I've switched to ubuntu on that box for now because I couldn't log in on the server with edubuntu. | 06:53 |
| merriam | I'm not the only one, am I? When I log in on the server I get serious errors and long waits, and the panel doesn't respond. ltsp clients work nicely. | 06:56 |
| cliebow | gnome-settings-maNAGER? | 06:57 |
| cliebow | error? | 06:57 |
| cliebow | anyway..you can read my x11vnc stuff for 4.2 if you like | 06:58 |
| merriam | I think so. But it seems there are more serious problems. | 06:58 |
| Em`Zee | cliebow; Did you say you had a tarred chroot for ppc? | 06:59 |
| cliebow | i do | 07:01 |
| cliebow | http://169.244.3.137/ powerpc.feisty.tar.gz | 07:02 |
| cliebow | and powerpckernel.feisty.tar.gz | 07:02 |
| cliebow | i think you'll have to add the yaboot bits | 07:03 |
| Em`Zee | yaboot? | 07:07 |
| cliebow | the kernel loader for ppc | 07:07 |
| cliebow | not unlike pxe;linox.0 | 07:08 |
| cliebow | yeah it is n there..place yaboot and yaboot.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot and point to ya boot in dhcpd.conf | 07:09 |
| Em`Zee | How do you make the macs netboot anyways? | 07:11 |
| Em`Zee | Is there a key to hit? | 07:11 |
| cliebow | if security-mode=none hit the n key..how old are these?they Do haave open firmware right? | 07:12 |
| cliebow | Em`Zee, http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/CpuArchitectures | 07:13 |
| Em`Zee | cliebow; We're talking like 400MhZ G3s | 07:14 |
| cliebow | as long as cmd-opt-o-f brings up opfw | 07:26 |
| cliebow | ealy ones..like bo ndis may require a reservation | 07:27 |
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| sbalneav | Afternoon all | 08:43 |
| juliux | hi sbalneav | 08:52 |
| sbalneav | Hello juliux | 08:53 |
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| knix_ | Has network-manager been fixed yet in feisty? | 10:05 |
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| sbalneav | not sure | 10:06 |
| knix_ | sbalneav, ty | 10:06 |
| sbalneav | Not yet, apparently. My static interface still isn't up :) | 10:07 |
| knix_ | sbalneav, hehe i hear ya, ty | 10:07 |
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| racter_ | is there a way to burn one of these rom-o-matic.net boot floppies onto a CD? | 11:24 |
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| cliebow | 1bootfloppy | 11:30 |
| cliebow | !bootfloppy | 11:31 |
| ubotu | grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto | 11:31 |
| sohail | anyone have any suggestion on how to teach drawing a triangle in logo without introducing trig? | 11:31 |
| cliebow | cliebow: "bootfloppy" is http://etherboot.anadex.de or ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/Universal_boot_flopp | 11:32 |
| cliebow | hmmm | 11:32 |
| cliebow | should be a univgersal boot cd.. | 11:33 |
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