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dwidmannusamahashimi: well, you'll have to do it on a per browser basis. Well, there might be another way that's global, but it'd be tricky/advanced, and I can't remember the darned file it would be :)12:12
usamahashimidwidmann: i think its /etc/hosts.deny but its not working12:13
pollyousamahashimi: Are you looking for some type of parental control system?12:13
geniidansguardian/squid comes to mind12:14
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dwidmannelitehacker: seeing as you need to do this in the terminal, might as well give you some command line linux 101. ls = list files, cd <directory> = change to <directory> directory, chmod = change permissions, ./ = sh = run a command with the default shell12:14
usamahashimipollyo: yes12:15
genii!info dansguardian | dwidman12:15
ubotudwidman: dansguardian: Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0.6-antivirus-6.3.8-1-1 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 1464 kB12:15
geniiarg12:15
dwidmannhrm?12:15
genii!info dansguardian | usamahashimi12:15
ubotuusamahashimi: dansguardian: Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0.6-antivirus-6.3.8-1-1 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 1464 kB12:15
geniirather12:15
geniidwidmann: Sorry12:16
dwidmann'salright12:16
genii:)12:16
geniiusamahashimi: For a good setup guide on it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20700812:17
usamahashimigenii: thanks lemme check it12:18
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soulrider!info usp12:24
ubotuPackage usp does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas12:24
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Edulixhi12:37
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marcus'soir  tous :D12:44
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DaSkreechmarcus: French?12:46
Admiral_Chicago!fr12:46
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:46
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: yup12:46
Admiral_Chicagoevening everyone :)12:47
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: didn't catch what he said12:47
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Admiral_Chicago^^12:47
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DaSkreechIs that just a statement or is he asking something12:47
Admiral_Chicagostatement12:48
marcussorry, thought it was a frensch speaking chanel here ;)12:48
DaSkreechNope mostly English though we do allow Nerdic12:48
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marcusin fact ubuntu is configurated in french .... so ...12:48
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marcusNerdic .... that must be your mothertongue ?12:50
dcerr12:50
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DaSkreechYup :-)12:51
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DaSkreechCaptainApathy: meet Admiral_Chicago12:52
DaSkreechAdmiral. Captain12:52
Admiral_Chicagohey there CaptainApathy12:53
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chalmer? about dual boot set-up w/ windows12:55
norealgravityhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNRUVBR43812:55
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chalmerhelp a question about dual boot set-up w/ windows ?12:57
mzanfardinoI'm trying to set up a directory on my kubuntu box to share with a windows box.  I've installed smb4k and I can reach the windows box just fine from kubuntu.  However, when I attempt to create a share from "sharing - system settings" the config screen is grey (even after I input my administrator password).  Any tips?12:57
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Black_Catchalmer: kubuntu sets this up automatically if windows exists on system, so what's the prob?12:59
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chalmerwhen i insert tha Kubuntu dvd, to install a dual boot conf. will it auto, reconize my windows partition and create a partition for Kubu, with out over write'n my windows01:01
crackratI just installed kubuntu recently, and it seems to be running slower than windows was.  If I recompile the kernel, will that speed it up?01:01
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chalmerwill Kubuntu reconize my sata drive to install it for a dual boot? or will i need a 3rd party driver for it during install?01:04
waylandbillcrackrat: an optimized kernel is faster01:05
Black_Cathey, and where are xine extracodecs? i don't see them anywhere! what do i install to get mp3-support?01:05
Black_Cat(for dapper drake release)01:05
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chalmerwill Kubuntu reconize my sata drive to install it for a dual boot? or will i need a 3rd party driver for it during install?01:05
waylandbill!sata01:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:06
mzanfardinolooking to share a directory to a windows box. I have smb installed and I can connect to the windows share, but I can't seem to share my directory with windows...01:06
mzanfardinoI have sata drive.  no extra driver required.01:06
waylandbillchalmer: check the forums01:07
eilker! CoolnQuiet01:07
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eilker!CoolnQuiet01:07
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chalmermzanfardino> i was wondering b/c windows i had to insert a floppy w/ the Sata drivers01:08
waylandbillmzanfardino: no guest access. must have account and password and must use smbpasswd to create it01:08
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DaSkreechchalmer: It should see it01:08
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DaSkreechchalmer: What version of SATA?01:09
mzanfardinochalmer: kubuntu made no such requirements.  My BIOS supported the drive and everything worked out of the box.01:09
DaSkreech!mp3 | Black_Cat01:09
ubotuBlack_Cat: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:09
autumnleave01:09
autumnshoot01:09
autumnsorry01:09
mzanfardinowaylandbill: sorry, don't quite follow your response.  Care to ellaborate?01:09
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autumnforgot the slash, Im a newbie01:09
mzanfardinowaylandbill: ah, after re-reading I think I might follow01:09
DaSkreechI have a friend named autumn01:09
autumnyeah?01:10
DaSkreechShe's in the hospital now though01:10
autumnit's not a common name01:10
autumnthat sucks01:10
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autumnis she okay?01:10
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Hc\\any1 awake?01:10
DaSkreechWell not her. Her Dad but she's living in the hospital01:10
DaSkreechNope01:10
DaSkreechzzZZZZ01:10
autumnoooh01:10
Hc\\i need some help01:10
DaSkreech.o0(Penguins ravaging Stock markets)01:11
Hc\\i've installed ubuntu before01:11
autumnwell bye guys01:11
chalmerDaSkreech > will it also give me tha option to create a dual boot w/ windows?01:11
Hc\\but i cannot instal kubuntu no01:11
DaSkreechHc\\: Whoot!01:11
Hc\\w01:11
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Hc\\just wondering that wtf should i open?01:11
DaSkreechchalmer: You have two drives?01:11
Hc\\yes01:11
DaSkreechHc\\: is ubuntu installed?01:11
Hc\\DaSkreech nop01:11
Hc\\lost the cd01:11
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DaSkreechHc\\: You have the kubuntu CD?01:12
Hc\\i got on my other hdd windows01:12
sonyhello01:12
Hc\\i dl:ed from sites01:12
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Hc\\and made a img cd of the file01:12
Hc\\s01:12
DaSkreechHc\\: A img cd?01:12
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Hc\\yes01:12
sonydoes anyone know how i can make ubuntu look like a mac01:12
Hc\\a bootable01:12
Black_Catubotu: outdated info there. something has happened about libxine-extracodecs, no more even hyperlinks there01:12
sonyor where i can find themes01:12
sonyfor ubuntu01:12
DaSkreechHc\\: and it boots?01:12
Hc\\yes01:12
DaSkreechsony: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?01:13
Hc\\but it looks different than in ubuntus instal01:13
sonyubu01:13
chalmerDaSkreech > yes , i got 3 Sata 250 gig. 1 drive has my windows os and the other 2 are my music storage01:13
DaSkreechchalmer: Which one do you want to install Kubuntu on?01:13
sonyi have ubuntu 6.0601:13
Hc\\how can i instal kubuntu on my second hdd what has 3parts01:13
DaSkreechsony: have you asked in #ubuntu ?01:13
Hc\\2ntfs01:13
Black_CatDaSkreech:  outdated info there. something has happened about libxine-extracodecs, no more even hyperlinks there01:13
Hc\\and 1unallocated01:13
Dasnipa`sony, gdesklets i think is pretty mac'ish01:13
sonyis kubuntu better or ubuntu?01:14
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chijinsony: yes01:14
DaSkreechHc\\: How different?01:14
Dasnipa`sony, the difference is kubuntu is KDE and ubuntu is gnome... internally they are otherwise the same01:14
Hc\\i gotta do something by myself01:14
DaSkreechBlack_Cat: do you have multiverse installed?01:14
Hc\\:D01:14
Black_Cati hope mpeglib will help, otherwise i'm lost...01:14
sonyahh fuck01:14
DaSkreechEnabled sorry01:14
Hc\\cant remember so much anymore01:14
sonyi think i liike kde01:14
Hc\\ovr 1y ago i installed01:14
sonyi installed it w/ gnome01:14
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Dasnipa`sony, you can go to kde easily... apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:14
chalmerDaSkreech > on the same drive w/ windows01:15
Dasnipa`and then you log out and relog with kde01:15
DaSkreechsony: You can choose which one you want when you login under the sessions button01:15
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DaSkreechHc\\: What's different?01:15
Hc\\DaSkreech acculy, i dunno anymore :D01:15
DaSkreechchalmer: I'd advise defragging the windows drive01:15
sonyoh01:15
Hc\\n its in eng01:15
DaSkreechchalmer: How much space do you have on it?01:15
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sonyvista sux!!!!!!!!!!101:15
Black_CatDaSkreech: you mean selected in repositories manager? i certainly do, and i've performed the update 15 mins ago01:16
makuseruno need for that sony01:16
sonysory01:16
DaSkreechBlack_Cat: But no libxine-extracodecs?01:16
makuserusony: i mean i agree, but no need to shout it out01:16
sonyok ok01:16
DaSkreechHc\\: Is it a live Cd?01:16
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chalmerDaSkreech > i got 160 gig of free space left on the windows xp drive01:16
Hc\\DaSkreech no idea01:16
DaSkreechchalmer: Ah ok then yes it's pretty easy :-)01:17
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DaSkreechHc\\: You haven't tried it yet?01:17
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Hc\\http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php01:17
Black_CatDaSkreech: i'm sure they aint there, but i'll check again now01:17
Hc\\dl from sweden01:17
sonyubuntu 6.06 works w/ my wireless, 6.10 doesnt anyone know why01:17
Black_CatDaSkreech: they've just vanished...01:17
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makuserusony: were gunna need more of a description than that01:18
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sonyi dont know it just does01:18
Black_Cati wonder can it be missing only on local (russian) repository but be present on others?01:18
sony6.06 awesome wireless, 6.10 wont recognize i was kinda dissapointed01:18
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Hc\\DaSkreech n the live cd differs?01:19
chalmerDaSkreech > i will not have to manually create the partitions for Kubuntu will i? i mean will it reconize the windows partition and give me the option to create a dual boot set-up with out me manually have'n to do it?01:19
DaSkreechBlack_Cat: do you have libxine1-ffmpeg ?01:19
DaSkreechchalmer: Yes it will. however you may want to allocate the space yourself01:20
DaSkreechBlack_Cat: Highly unlikely01:20
DaSkreechHc\\: Did you get the Desktop Cd?01:20
DaSkreech!wifi | sony01:20
ubotusony: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:20
sonythanks01:21
Hc\\DaSkreech i downloaded the iso cd image01:21
Hc\\thats all what that says O.o01:22
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DaSkreechHc\\: really? What does it say when you boot with it?01:22
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Hc\\DaSkreech imma boot again01:22
Black_CatDaSkreech: i don't ... beats me...01:22
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chalmerDaSkreech > as in when it goes to do tha partitions i need to tell it how much space for "swap" and" how much should it use for tha Kubuntu OS. ?01:22
Black_Catmaybe i just gotta upgrade anything? amarok, perhaps?01:23
Hc\\DaSkreech starting caldera... dos?01:23
DaSkreechBlack_Cat: can you post your sources.list01:23
Hc\\part c,d,e installed01:23
Hc\\searvher for usb hdd devices01:23
DaSkreechHc\\: Woah01:23
DaSkreechare you sure you burnt the right Image?01:23
Hc\\and now its back to caldera dr-dos -.-01:23
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DaSkreechThat's nothing at all like what you are supposed to be seeing01:24
Hc\\DaSkreech what am i suppose to see?01:24
DaSkreechgrub01:24
DaSkreechbash01:24
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DaSkreechat worst busybox01:24
DaSkreechnot Dr-dos01:24
Hc\\fucl fuck fuck01:25
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LjL!language01:25
DaSkreech!language | Hc\\01:25
Hc\\shouldnt i burn all the files?01:25
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:25
ubotuHc\\: please see above01:25
Hc\\oops01:25
Hc\\sry01:25
DaSkreechHc\\: Where did you download this?01:25
Hc\\http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php01:25
chalmerDaSkreech > as in when it goes to do tha partitions i need to tell it how much space for "swap" and" how much should it use for tha Kubuntu OS. ?01:25
Hc\\http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.0401:26
DaSkreech!paste | Black_Cat please open /etc/apt/sources.list and read the following01:26
ubotuBlack_Cat please open /etc/apt/sources.list and read the following: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:26
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DaSkreechchalmer: there is a button that says "figure all that out for me" So you don't have to. I'm just saying maybe you want to01:26
Black_Catokay01:26
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DaSkreechHc\\: again are you sure you burnt the right image01:27
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Hc\\DaSkreech no01:27
DaSkreech what's the name of the file you downloaded?01:27
chalmerDaSkreech > ok ty01:27
Hc\\i have no clue anymore how to burn01:27
Hc\\DaSkreech sec, starting windows01:27
DaSkreechchalmer: are you using the Desktop Cd?01:27
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Hc\\DaSkreech file name, kubuntu-7.04-beta-desktop-amd6401:28
Hc\\its in a "packed" folder01:28
DaSkreechHc\\: What did you use to burn it?01:28
Hc\\nero01:28
DaSkreechHc\\: how? Did you burn a Data CD?01:29
Hc\\umm01:29
Hc\\sec01:29
philphotoanyone help me with a command line?  trying to install synaptic.  is it "sudo apt-get install synaptic"  ?01:29
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DaSkreechphilphoto: yup01:29
philphotoI did it right?01:29
philphotoholy cow.01:30
DaSkreechphilphoto: That is correct01:30
philphotothat's the first one I've written CORRECTLY.01:30
DaSkreechApt-get has super cow powers01:30
philphotothanks!01:30
Hc\\=)01:30
Hc\\DaSkreech i made a bootable data disc01:31
DaSkreechHc\\: Nope no need01:31
DaSkreechYou have Nero open?01:31
Hc\\DaSkreech i got nero express 601:31
Hc\\old01:31
DaSkreechIs it open?01:32
Hc\\yees01:32
Hc\\:D01:32
Hc\\sry01:32
Hc\\soon bin awake 24h01:32
DaSkreechok look under recorder I think01:32
DaSkreechWhere you can erase CDRWs01:32
DaSkreechI think there is an option there for Burn Disc image01:32
Hc\\burn image on cd?01:33
DaSkreechYeah01:33
Hc\\i try to translate it from finnish to english01:33
DaSkreechSomething to that effect :)01:33
Hc\\open01:33
DaSkreechWhen you click it should open a Box asking you where the image is?01:33
Hc\\then ywsa01:33
Hc\\yes01:33
DaSkreechfind the kubuntu-7.04-beta-desktop-amd64.iso01:34
DaSkreechand choose it01:34
Hc\\found01:34
DaSkreechYou should be good after that's finished burning01:34
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Hc\\my last cd01:34
Hc\\then i have to go for dvd:s :S01:34
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DaSkreecheek01:35
DaSkreechHc\\: I would say sleep for 24 h then go buy more Cds ;-)01:35
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Hc\\DaSkreech how many do i need?01:36
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DaSkreechUno01:36
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Hc\\uno more?01:36
DaSkreechI don't know how to say one in Finnish :-(01:36
Hc\\yksi01:36
Hc\\in finnish01:36
DaSkreechHc\\: No You just need one01:36
Hc\\ok01:36
DaSkreechyksi then :)01:36
Hc\\huh01:36
Hc\\where do u come from?01:36
Hc\\if i may ask01:36
DaSkreechJamaica01:37
Hc\\oohh, some1 is having it warm01:37
Hc\\weve had rly warm now for the past few days 10celsius on the daytime =)01:37
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Hc\\bin in t-shirt and jeans out =)01:37
DaSkreechWe have had rain01:37
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morvok_its suppose to snow here I think.. again.01:38
Hc\\DaSkreech and now?01:38
Hc\\when it's burned01:38
Hc\\going to snow next week i think01:38
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DaSkreechHc\\: Oh it's done?01:39
Hc\\yes01:39
DaSkreechThat was quick01:39
DaSkreechreboot :)01:39
Hc\\2min01:39
Hc\\for burning01:39
DaSkreechWhoops gotta go01:39
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DaSkreechLet me know if it gives you a menu01:39
Hc\\i will01:40
Hc\\btw, i can use windows and linux on the same computer?01:40
DaSkreechYes01:40
DaSkreechnot at the same time unless you have a new Processor01:40
BluesKajaha , a soumalainen in da house !01:40
Hc\\how to choose which one to use?01:40
DaSkreechIt will ask when you turn on the computer01:40
Hc\\BluesKaj ainaki yks nobo tl01:41
Hc\\ok01:41
Hc\\yay01:41
Hc\\now it looks more familiar01:41
DaSkreechHc\\: menu?01:41
Hc\\DaSkreech yes01:41
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DaSkreech:-)01:41
DaSkreechSweet01:41
DaSkreechI'm gone01:41
Hc\\DaSkreech thx for help =)01:41
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BluesKajnot a soumalainen anymore Hc\\ , I haven't been for almost 60 yrs :)01:41
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cotyDaSkreech: ................01:42
PimpMaggothello01:42
Hc\\60?01:42
Hc\\:D01:42
cotyDaSkreech: face-----------> x_x01:42
PimpMaggotim new to this01:42
BluesKajyup, old Canadaian now ...but I was born In Kaavi .. 194301:42
PimpMaggothow do you switch channels01:43
Hc\\kaavi?01:43
BluesKajyup01:43
Hc\\where is it?01:43
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BluesKajabout150km North of Helsinki01:43
Hc\\i live in helsinki =)01:44
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BluesKajso do a lot of my realtives whom I've never met01:45
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic01:45
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:45
BluesKajhehe01:45
BluesKajas if it's busy in here01:46
Ashfire908hi01:46
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ubuntu_Hello, I am a newbie, and I am trying to get kubuntu installed. I am having trouble trying to partion my HD,01:49
ubuntu_I was wondering if anyone here could help01:49
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BluesKajare using the live cd01:50
BluesKaj?01:50
CaptainApathyme?01:50
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Hc\\can some1 tell me what live cd is?01:50
soulriderubuntu_: it would be a good idea to change your name, to do so, type /nick <new nickname>01:51
BluesKajHc\\ , you run the OS off the cd rather than installed on the HDD01:51
soulriderHc\\: a live CD is a CD with kubuntu you put on your drive and then reboot, but instead of loading windows, your PC loads Kubuntu form the CD01:51
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soulrideryou can use it to try out ubuntu without touching your hard drives at all01:51
Hc\\thx01:52
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ubuntu_Yeah, I go through the install process, then I ge to step 5, and I need to create a new partion because I want to do a dual boot with windows xp01:52
Hc\\umm, why is this saying that "No root file system is defined"01:52
Hc\\on partitions01:52
soulriderHc\\: you using the live CD to install01:53
soulriderubuntu_: hold on just a sec please01:53
Hc\\soulrider yes01:53
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ubuntu_thanks01:53
soulriderok, Hc\\ did you make your partitions the way you want them to be01:53
soulrider?01:53
BluesKajhey ubuntu, I suggest you use a differnt nick01:54
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Hc\\soulrider yes, i got now 63 gig for linux01:54
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jack222this better?01:54
Hc\\ys01:54
soulrideryea jack22201:54
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Hc\\and all should be ok01:55
soulriderHc\\: you see how it shows the partitions now ?01:55
Hc\\yes01:55
soulriderand something next to them01:55
jack222Ok, I get to step 5, but I dont know what option to choose....01:55
BluesKajok jack , good cuz ppl who don't enter a nick before joining default to the name ubuntu...we've had 3-4 of them in here at the same time01:55
soulrideryou need to make the partition you want ubuntu on say /01:55
Hc\\yes01:55
Hc\\correct01:55
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soulrideruhm01:55
Hc\\i got one done01:55
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soulriderim so bad explaining this01:55
BluesKajjack222 , list the options pls01:56
soulriderHc\\: heres how it goes01:56
soulrideryou need a partition for swap and one for root01:56
soulridertoor = /01:56
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soulriderroot*01:56
intelikeyhmmm i'm having a bit of a problem with modprobe  E: QM_FUNCTION not supported.    can't use modprobe...   ?01:56
soulriderdoes it say somehting about selecting mountpoints ?01:56
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Hc\\i gotta make 2 parts for linuc01:56
Hc\\?01:56
vip_Hello guys, im having a little problem atm.. Im running programupdate in a fresh install and now both the "lines" have frozen.. (top and bottom bar) any idea why?01:56
Hc\\kubuntu01:56
pbcustom98anyone know a good .flac player?01:57
jack222ok, here they are01:57
soulriderHc\\: right01:57
BluesKaja linux partition is commonly called an "ext" partition, jack22201:57
soulriderone of the partitions is where you want to install01:57
jackster_HELLO01:57
soulriderand a small partition, like a 1gb one, for swap01:57
Hc\\what is that mount point?01:57
soulriderhi jack22201:57
Hc\\soulrider01:57
soulriderjackster_:01:57
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jack2221- resize IDE1 master, parion #1 (hda1) and use freed space01:58
jackster_wat are we talking about01:58
jackster_?????01:58
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soulriderHc\\: its there on your sistem that partition will be01:58
Hc\\ok, ty01:58
jack222(2) Erase entire disk (hda) *I am almost sure I dont want to do this one*01:58
soulriderHc\\: sorry if i suck at explaining this01:58
jack222(3) Use the largest continous free space01:58
jack222and finally (4) Manually edit partion table01:58
jackster_m01:59
jack222blueskaj - can I PM you01:59
Hc\\soulrider you do it great! =)01:59
soulriderHc\\: i dont >.<01:59
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BluesKajok jack22202:00
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jack222I says I cant, I am not registered, maybe if you pm me first?02:00
Hc\\soulrider what should i put to the location for the new partition02:00
Hc\\?02:00
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soulriderwell Hc\\ you will want a partition for / and one for swap02:01
intelikeyi installed 'modutils' which supplies the "modprobe" command, no errors all deps are up to snuff,  but modprobe does not work.   anyone got a clue-by-four to hit me with ?02:01
soulriderthats all that you really need02:01
soulriderHc\\: those two partitions will be formatted02:01
soulriderso choose carefuly!02:02
pbcustom98anyone know a good .flac player?02:02
BluesKajjack222 , #4 is your best option02:02
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soulrider!flac02:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:02
soulriderpbcustom98: check out those links, maybe they got an answe02:02
jack222Ok, I tried that, but I dont know what to do after tha02:03
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jack222blues, tha chat thing still wont let me talk to you02:03
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vip_Anyone that got time to help me alittle?02:04
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Hc\\still saying02:05
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Hc\\"no root file system is defined. please correct this from the partitoning menu02:05
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Hc\\still saying that -.-02:05
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xerrozwhy would both Konqy and KTorrent not be able to access the internet when it is active?02:06
jack222Ok, I selected option #402:06
BluesKajif you run the manual partition table jack222, it will guide you thru the steps of preserving ntfs (windows) partition and resizing  to make room for the linux-ext and the linux swap partitions02:06
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MukiEXAnyone here use a wacom pad?02:08
vit__hey02:08
vit__anybody can help me??!?!02:08
vit__I need a gib favor02:08
vit__big02:08
vit__I need a big favor02:08
Admiral_Chicagoask again please02:08
vit__admiral...02:08
vit__can you help me??02:09
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vit__anybody can help me??!?!02:09
jack222I selected #4 and it is showing 3 different forms of storage, the one I want is the one that is 104gigs, but I dont know how to partion part of this02:09
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vit__hey02:09
vit__anybody can help me??!?!02:09
BluesKajvit__, just ask your question02:09
jack222SHould I select that one and select resize or something?02:09
vit__hi blueKaj02:10
BluesKajhow big is your whole HDD , jack222 ?02:10
vit__how r u?02:10
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vit__i need install a program02:11
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jack222104 gigs, and I have like 40 gigs free, and I wan to dedicate 15 of those 40 gigs dedicated to linux02:11
vit__but i don't kno how!!!02:11
CaptainApathysome data got damaged in a hard drive fix in windows... is there a tool on the live cd that could help me restore the data?02:11
jacksterwat program vit02:11
vit__jackster02:12
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vit__java02:12
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jacksterya wat02:12
jacksteroh02:12
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jacksterwere did you download it from02:12
vit__but I don't know how tio do that??02:12
vit__I downloaded it from www.acrobat.com02:13
vit__it's a linux version02:13
jacksterdo u have linux02:13
BluesKajok jack222 ,since you have only windows on the HDD , you need to resize it first , then reformat the the remaining to linux -ext and linux swap ...the swap file can be 500MB since your linux partitionis 15G02:13
vit__yes i have linux02:14
jacksteri sort of have no idea how02:14
jacksterbecause i havent02:14
Sannevit_, jackster: java is in the ubuntu repositories, in universe02:14
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vit__hmmm02:14
jacksterhuh?02:14
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vit__ I knew that... i need to install java..02:15
jacksterwellclik on the icon02:15
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vit__i did02:16
vit__but nothing happens02:16
jacksterok wat does it say02:16
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vit__???02:16
soulridervit__: do you know about repos ?02:17
soulrider!repos | vit__02:17
ubotuvit__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:17
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vit__nothing...02:17
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soulrideri suggets you read that, it will help you understand how installing works here02:17
jackster????????????????????????????????????????????02:17
soulriderso much easier that in windows02:17
vit__yes???02:17
jackstertrue02:17
Sannejackster: what's the matter?02:17
Admiral_Chicago!k9copy02:17
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:17
jacksterso confusing u peple are02:18
vit__THANK YOU SOULRIDER02:18
Admiral_Chicagothat doesn't make sense...02:18
soulridervit__: i know theres a manual that explain how installing and stuff works here02:18
soulriderlet me find it02:18
jacksterthis chat sucks02:18
soulridernot really02:18
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vit__OK!!!!!02:18
jacksterwat does irc stand for?02:19
soulriderinternet relay chat02:19
jacksterhuh?02:19
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jacksterwat does that mean02:19
IPx-What's the difference between beryl xgl, aigl and nvidia?02:19
jacksterno idea02:19
vit__JACKSTER... where are you from?02:20
Sannejackster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat02:20
jackstercanada02:20
Hc\\smoke02:20
Hc\\->02:20
jacksterthanks sanne02:20
IPx-Does anyone know?02:20
Sannejackster: you're welcome :)02:20
soulridervit__: read this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement it may seem a bit long, but its SO useful!02:20
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vit__jajaja my little sister says HELLO TO EVERYBODY!!!02:20
jacksteryay02:21
vit__THANK YOU SOULRIDER....02:21
IPx-!beryl02:21
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:21
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vit__YOU SAVE MY LIVE!!!!02:21
jacksteris all we talk about computers02:21
Admiral_Chicagoi'm looking at helping this guy. running 64 bit but in 32 bit enviroment02:22
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=== matysek wish good night
Admiral_Chicagoshould he get a 32 bit repo or 64 bit02:22
jackstermmm02:22
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jacksteri like cheese02:22
Tm_Tvit__: no need to yell02:22
vit__ME TOO02:22
soulriderjackster: this is a channel about computers..... you thought it was somethign else ?02:22
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic02:23
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:23
Admiral_Chicago!caps02:23
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:23
vit__WHAT DO YOU SAY???02:23
soulridervit__: please, dont use caps02:23
vit__Tm_T02:23
jacksterhow can u make new chanels02:23
vit__ok... excuse me02:23
Ashfire908jackster, just join an unused channel02:23
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Ashfire908you will then be an op in it02:23
Sannesoulrider: that is a great page you linked to, the one about software management. Very good overview, good to know when helping people. Thanks.02:23
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vit__hey soul... where r u from?02:23
Ashfire908if you wish to use the channel regually, register it with chanserv02:24
jacksterthere are no other chanels02:24
Ashfire908?02:24
Ashfire908huh02:24
posingaspopularjackster, /j #channame02:24
posingaspopularare you looking for one specifically?02:25
jacksterno02:25
Ashfire908posingaspopular, not every client supports /j02:25
BluesKajhe must be using Konversation, no serverlist02:25
posingaspopularAshfire908, ah right,02:25
jacksterya02:25
Ashfire908jackster, what channel would you like to use02:25
Admiral_Chicago /join #channel is usually the command to use posingaspopular02:25
jacksterno serverlist02:25
Ashfire908oh02:25
lewixwhenever i turn on my computer i have 2 version of kubuntu, is it normal?02:25
lewix11 and 1002:26
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BluesKajyeah , one is safemode ?02:26
nagyvhello! I would like to play a game (freecol), but not full screen. It is a java game, is there a possibility to require it to run in a window?02:26
Hc\\BluesKaj btw, kubuntu is installed on which one? ext3 or swap?02:26
Admiral_Chicagolewix: different kernels02:26
Admiral_Chicagothats normal02:27
Hc\\if none, then i've missed it totally :D02:27
lewixAdmiral_Chicago, how come02:27
BluesKajHc\\, ext302:27
posingaspopularAdmiral_Chicago, i thought you were afk, you are on aim02:27
Hc\\BluesKaj whats the swap then?02:27
lewixAdmiral_Chicago, is it due to apt--get upgrade?02:28
Admiral_Chicagoposingaspopular: yea need to shower. brb.02:28
BluesKaj!swap02:28
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info02:28
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Admiral_Chicagolewix: yes, some kernels work better with some wireless devices, newer ones have bug fixes (but may open new bugs) etc02:28
jacksterevery one gotto chanel #stuff02:28
jacksterfr02:29
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jacksterhjkh02:29
jackster'02:29
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lewixAdmiral_Chicago, which one should I use?02:29
Admiral_Chicagolewix: i'd say the latest one02:29
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Hc\\BluesKaj ty02:29
philphotook folks, another problem.  I don't know how major or minor.  I ran this command & didn't mean to:02:29
lewixAdmiral_Chicago, how do I know which one I'm using right now02:29
philphoto"sudo aptitude install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)"02:30
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jackstercx02:30
philphotois there a way I can uninstall all that stuff I just downloaded?02:30
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Admiral_Chicagolewix: in konsole, type 'uname-r'02:30
Admiral_Chicagono quotes02:30
cotycan some tell me how i would make more swap02:30
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cotymy computer keeps freezing and shutting down02:30
Admiral_Chicagophilphoto: hit up on the arrow keys....02:30
philphotoand...02:31
Admiral_Chicagochange 'install' with remove02:31
lewixthanks 1102:31
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philphotothat's it?02:31
kristjan_does tango icon theme come for kde also?02:31
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Admiral_Chicagokristjan_: no02:32
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Admiral_Chicagophilphoto: yes02:32
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philphotoit makes so much sense...02:33
Admiral_Chicagohaha, well *nix is that way02:33
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philphotoyou have to forgive me, I'm newly Linux-ed.  still in the Win mindset of everything must be hard or impossible for a mere mortal to accomplish02:34
Mezalciao a tutti02:34
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Mezalnessuna italiana???02:35
Mezal:D02:35
BluesKajI'm pretty close to total migration , but I still haven't worked up the nerve to sail my ship out of sight of the bill gates wharf :P02:35
LamingtonCan I post a question about Konversation in here on the off chance someone might have an answer ?02:36
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BluesKaj!it | Mezal02:36
ubotuMezal: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:36
Mezalaaaaaaaah02:36
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Mezalcapio02:36
BluesKajLamington , go ahead02:36
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LamingtonWell... I put someone on ignore right02:36
LamingtonBut they dont stay ignored02:36
LamingtonWhen I check my ignore list, they are no longer ignored02:37
BluesKajall on the lisyt or just one nick ?02:37
Lamingtonjust one nick02:38
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Lamingtonbut any nick the same person uses02:38
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just-this-timecloned an dual boot install windows and ubuntu boot02:38
hawk_what is a good mount tool02:38
hawk_gui i mean02:39
vit__how can i install mozilla firefoz to linux?02:39
Lamingtonvit_ you using kubuntu ?02:39
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just-this-timeonly ubuntu does not see DVD and CD drives where is the dev to be found for optical drives annd whaat is an convenient mount point02:39
just-this-time!mount02:40
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:40
vit__yes02:40
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just-this-time!DiskMounter02:40
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse02:40
vit__why?02:40
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hawk_idiskmounter02:40
hawk_!diskmounter02:40
Lamingtonvit_ Open Adept and type 'Firefox' in the search box02:40
vit__ok... let me see02:41
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hawk_!DiskMounter02:41
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse02:41
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jarnThis isn't a Linux question, but does anyone know where the different options for google searches (inurl, etc.) are documented?02:42
vit__hey nothing happens lamington02:42
Lamingtonvit_ ?02:42
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vit__i opened Adept02:43
vit__typed firefox02:43
hawk_!fuse02:43
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:43
vit__and din't found anything02:43
vit__can you help me please?02:44
chijin!ntfs-3g02:44
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)02:44
hawk_how do i mount ntfs partionions i have down loaded the drivers02:44
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Lamingtonvit_ Click on the 'Adept' menu, then click on 'manage repositories'02:45
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Lamingtonvit_ ?02:47
vit__ok02:47
vit__now?02:48
Lamingtonvit_ are any of your repositories greyed out - that is, are they disabled ?02:48
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Lamingtonvit_ the list of sources you can see - are any of them disabled ?02:49
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vit__yes02:50
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Lamingtonvit_ Ok, enable your universe & multiverse sources by right-clicking on them and choosing 'enable'02:51
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Lamingtonvit_ basically enable all of them02:52
Lamingtonany that are greyed out02:52
vit__all of them?02:53
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vit__thera are too many!!02:53
Lamingtonvit_ just the ones that are not enabled02:53
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vit__ok...02:54
vit__i'm ready02:54
vit__then?02:54
Lamingtonvit_ Ok, click on the 'apply' button down the bottom (dont know if you actually have to but lets just do that anyway)02:55
vit__ok02:55
vit__ready02:55
Lamingtonvit_ Now, back up the top click on 'fetch updates'02:55
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vit__it's downloading something02:56
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vit__ready!!!!02:57
Lamingtonvit_ It will update your sources information02:57
vit__yes02:57
vit__it finish02:57
vit__now?02:57
Hc\\hey02:57
Hc\\now02:57
Lamingtonvit_ Now in the Adept menu, click on 'manage repositories' again to take you back to the main window02:57
hawk_what is the file system command for ntfs the web site says nls=utf8 but it comes back say it dos not work02:58
soulrider!repos02:58
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:58
soulriderthat shows how to enable universe and multiverse02:58
soulriderwith pictures! :D02:58
vit__ok02:58
vit__then?02:58
Lamingtonsoulrider: :)02:58
Lamingtonvit_ search for firefox again02:58
soulridervit__: did you read this?02:58
soulriderhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement02:58
Hc\\lol02:59
vit__I Found it!!!!!02:59
vit__jajaja02:59
hawk_!ntfs02:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:59
Hc\\atleast i didnt format my hdd where is xp02:59
vit__thankyou so much!!!02:59
vit__Lamington...02:59
Lamingtonvit_ No problem02:59
vit__how can I install Java?02:59
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soulridervit__: where you from ?02:59
=== Hc\\ np: Moonsorrow: Voimasta Ja Kunniasta - Kyln pss [07:38]
Lamington!java03:00
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:00
Hc\\soulrider if i remember right ubunto do not need av or firewall03:00
Hc\\so does kubuntu need them?03:00
soulriderHc\\: ofcourse not03:00
Hc\\good03:00
soulriderHc\\:03:00
Hc\\then i remember right =)03:01
soulriderubuntua nd kubuntu are the same03:01
vit__I am using kubuntu03:01
soulriderthe only thing thatc hanges03:01
soulrideris the interface03:01
Hc\\ok :D03:01
vit__ubotu03:01
soulridervit__: hablas espa~nol, no ?03:01
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vit__si03:01
soulriderme imagine :) hay un canal en espa~nol03:01
soulrider!es03:01
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:01
Lamingtonvit_ ubotu is a bot who can give you helpful links to answer your questions03:01
hawk_nvm diskmounter worked03:01
soulridermejor vamos a ahi03:01
soulridervit__: te veo en #kubuntu-es03:02
vit__hey03:02
vit__pero como hago eso?03:02
soulriderdale click a #kubuntu-es03:02
vit__listo03:02
Hc\\thx alot for help soulrider and BluesKaj03:03
Hc\\!03:03
soulriderno prob03:03
soulriderthats what were here for :)03:03
soulriderthats the point of having an IRC channel03:03
soulriderjust come back when you need further help03:04
Hc\\=)03:04
Hc\\but good habbits is also needed03:04
Hc\\soulrider is it ok to idle here till need more help?03:04
Hc\\acculy03:05
Hc\\now i need help03:05
Hc\\wondering that were did ibe part go?03:05
soulrideryeah, you can idle here, i idle all the time :P03:05
soulrideribe ?03:05
Hc\\i could find one part of 203:05
Hc\\+the 2small ones03:05
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michaelpohi, what software do you recommend for me to extract email addresses from my excel spreadsheet or msword doc?03:06
Hc\\i lost totally 43.08gig03:06
Hc\\cant find it03:06
soulriderHc\\: you cant find a partition ?03:06
Hc\\yes03:06
Hc\\it made 4parts from my hdd for ubuntu03:06
soulriderok03:06
Hc\\2x <2gig03:07
Hc\\one 28gig03:07
Hc\\and one 4303:07
Hc\\gig03:07
soulrideryou were careful enough so thatt he partitioon didnt get formatted right?03:07
soulriderlike03:07
soulriderthe data is still ther03:07
soulrideror do you not need it ?03:07
Hc\\it would be good to find the 43gig03:07
Hc\\i think those what is under 2gig is swaps03:07
soulriderok03:07
soulrideropen konqueror03:08
Hc\\then i found some other things too from there03:08
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Hc\\imma boot and write the list here03:08
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soulrideruhm ?03:08
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Hc\\there was 3ubuntus :D03:08
soulriderlol03:08
Hc\\no 403:08
Hc\\:D03:08
Hc\\xp and some mem thing03:09
soulriderlol03:09
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soulrideryou still got XP ?03:09
Hc\\yes03:09
LamingtonUbuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu... and thats it as far as I know.03:09
Hc\\its on a diff hdd03:09
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ernieHi all - just thought I'd pop in and say hello03:09
soulriderLamington: theres more, just not official03:09
soulriderlike fluxbuntu03:09
soulriderhi ernie03:09
Lamingtonoh yeah03:09
Lamingtonforgot about fluxbuntu03:09
Hc\\hi ernie =)03:09
Hc\\now03:09
ernie:)03:10
Hc\\here is Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-12-gemeric03:10
Hc\\Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-12-gemeric(recovery mode)03:10
Hc\\ubuntu memtest 86+03:10
Hc\\other operating systems03:10
Hc\\microsoft winfows cp professional03:11
soulriderok, thats the grub list03:11
Hc\\ubuntu fiesty (development branch) (7.04) (on /dev/sdb4)03:11
soulrider!repos03:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:11
Hc\\so with otherwords it used 43gog to some of those grubs?03:11
Hc\\2x <2gig03:12
soulridergrub is the bootloader, its like the program that lets you choose what OS it is that you want03:12
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Hc\\ok03:12
Hc\\:DD03:12
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intelikeyanybody know anything about trubble shooting a modprobe issue ?03:13
hawk_!iso03:13
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.03:13
=== Hc\\ np: Moonsorrow - Kivenkantaja (03:38/07:39)
soulrider!fi03:13
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi03:13
Hc\\what is that ubuntu fiesty?03:13
Hc\\feisty*03:13
soulriderits the beta version, you must have installed it03:13
soulriderintelikey: no idea03:13
Admiral_ChicagoHc\\: next release that we are developing03:13
Hc\\i cant open it03:13
Hc\\:D03:13
intelikeymodprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented03:14
hawk_is there any program that will mount and unmount iso's for me with out command line i am just to lazy03:14
fyrmedicI had fglrx working then did an update on my kernel and it stopped working and reverted back to mesa drivers. Is there any other options for ATI video than fglrx or the packaged ati driver?03:14
Hc\\so i gotta open ubuntu kernel generic?03:14
soulriderHc\\: is it still installed? maybe you formatted the partition and its just not there anymore03:14
intelikeymodprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented03:14
intelikeymodprobe: Can't locate module ppp03:14
soulriderlol hawk_03:14
intelikeydmesg is very un-helpful on that.03:14
soulriderHc\\: yeah03:14
Hc\\it tries to open with  feisty03:14
intelikeyit says nothing beyond the disk drive checks03:15
hawk_soulrider: whats so funny?03:15
hawk_lol03:15
Hc\\with no success03:15
soulriderhawk_: the lazy comment :P03:15
Hc\\but with the ubuntu kernel... it opens03:15
soulriderHc\\: maybe you just deleted the partition where fesity was installed03:15
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soulrider!fi | Hc\\03:15
ubotuHc\\: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi03:15
hawk_soulrider: when you work with backtrack all day you get lazy03:15
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hawk_well never mind i will just use fuse03:16
just-this-timein a new system cloned installation wont recognize and mount two optical drives dvd and cd which work perfectly on dual boot in Windows03:16
Hc\\where here can i see the particips?03:17
Hc\\or how u write it03:17
just-this-timehowto find /dev and re-establish in intel 96503:17
hawk_brb03:17
just-this-time!libata03:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:17
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just-this-timenew unified ata is called libata right?03:18
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soulriderHc\\: open Konqueror03:19
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soulriderHc\\: after its open click on Storage Media and it wilol show you your partitions03:19
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Hc\\it gives me one media03:20
Hc\\so the question remains where is the other103:20
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just-this-timecdroms are blockdevices right where in kinfocenter I see cdrom devices?03:21
steve_after installing Feisty Downloaded nvidia-glx and getting error "couldn't load module wfb". What should I do? my feisty is up to date and nvidia won't work03:22
Hc\\can i find from here a thing like disc manager in windows?03:22
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just-this-timeis intel 965 too new for edgy ?03:22
just-this-timeand how do I re-detect cdroms in ubuntu?03:23
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bobbydHc\\: k->system settings->Advanced Tab->disks and filesystems03:26
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miguelhi all!03:27
Hc\\thx bobbyd =)03:27
Hc\\now n get some sleep03:27
Hc\\22h awake is enough 4 me03:27
surgyhi03:28
chalmerhelp with dual boot configuration kubuntu/windows   ??03:28
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surgychalmer | !ask03:28
JarnIs there a way to "refresh" locate for if it isn't finding a file that I know exists?03:29
surgyjarn: if what isnt finding what?03:30
Jarnsurgy: locate.03:30
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Jarnsurgy: Oh, I think I found it though. I think it's the -u flag.03:30
just-this-timehelp with funny cdrom disappearance in new 965 machine03:31
just-this-timeconvinced that is a common probled03:31
just-this-timeproblem03:31
miguelcan anyone recommend me a webcam to use under kubuntu?03:32
just-this-timejam sudo updatedb03:32
chalmersurgy > when i reboot to tha kubuntu dvd it shows my 3 sata drives. but it does'nt show my windows partition. i know which drive to select for tha install but i dont want it to format over my windows partition tha kubuntu does'nt show03:32
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just-this-timemiguel logitech would be agood choice03:32
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miguelthanks just-this-time03:33
Jarnjust-this-time: Yeah, I found it already. I used locate -u though, it's the same thing.03:33
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just-this-timechalmer:03:33
just-this-time!DiskMounter03:33
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse03:33
miguelall of them should work?03:33
surgychalmer: use a completely different hard drive if possible, and it will solve any possile data loss03:33
just-this-time!DiskMounter > chalmer03:33
migueldo they have a good quality?03:33
just-this-timeI think sso miguel03:33
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just-this-timecommonly used is sudo updatedb && locate pppp jam03:34
chalmersurgy > kubuntu does'nt show none of my partitions on the drive. it just show it as  seagate 250 gig03:35
just-this-timemy cdroms dissappeared on a new cloned install over intel 96503:35
surgychalmer: so you only have one hdd with three partitions?03:35
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migueljust, i like the a4tech pk 635 but it doesnt seem to work under linux03:35
miguelat least i could not find the drivers03:36
surgychalmer: if thats the case you need to go into windows and delete an ntfs partition and then create an empty partition, or "raw" partition03:36
chalmersurgy >1 hd with 2 partitions and tha 2nd & 3rd are my music03:36
surgychalmer: or are your three hdds' in a raid array as striping? if so the kubuntu is trying to make one giant partition to span all three03:37
miguelthanks just-this-time!!03:37
chalmersurgy > no03:37
surgychalmer: it is best, easiest, and safer to use a seperate hdd for linux and a seperate hdd for windows03:37
chalmersurgy > hmmmmm03:37
surgychalmer: see if you can use the second part on the windows drive for your music, and then partition the music hdd for linux, or something similar03:38
surgychalmer: thats the safe route03:38
chalmersurgy > i was told that a dual boot cpu has to b on tha same drive ?03:38
surgychalmer: a dual boot cpu........ as in cpu == central processing unit ?03:39
soulrider!easysource03:39
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:39
surgychalmer: if thats what you mean, then no you need no special processor for dual boots03:39
chalmersurgy > lol.. no computer03:39
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pbcustom98anyone know a good .flac player?03:40
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surgychalmer: then you statement makes no sense, " a dual boot computer has to be on the same hard disk drive" you cannot store a physicle computer on a disk drive, without stacking them physicly, and then it whouldnt be plugged in03:40
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chalmersurgy > im soory this is what im referring to. 1 comp, 1 hd, with windows and kubuntu03:42
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franciscohey pessoal das Caldas!!!!03:43
JarnFilelight is giving me wrong information.03:43
surgychalmer: then, not top be harsh or rude, but you need to do your research,, if you dont, then expect significant data loss. dual boot systems are what every unsure noob wants and just happens to be one of the hardest installs03:44
chalmersurgy > i was told to do a dual boot configuration on a single computer that the second os has to b installed on tha same hd that windows is on03:44
surgychalmer: you were told wrong03:44
surgychalmer: if you install them on seperate hard drives it makes the process almost seamless, with no guessing or hoping03:44
franciscohow can I make work my microphone? I using a HP Dv2000...03:46
surgychalmer: after you use linux for a while you will probably either hate windows or hate linux, and then you will want to rid yourself of the one you dislike03:46
surgy!microphone03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
franciscook thx =)03:46
chalmersurgy > so if i install a 4th hd then install kubuntu on it.    and when the computer restarts it should show me tha 2 os's to select from to boot into03:46
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surgychalmer: yes,, there is a program that installs with kubuntu called "grub" and grub does exactly that, it gives you a counter and after the counter is up it boots into the defualt os, and if you hit a key within the counter, it gives you the choice03:47
hawk_!fuse03:47
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:47
surgy!grub | chalmer03:47
ubotuchalmer: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:47
hawk_!fuseiso03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fuseiso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
pbcustom98anyone know a good .flac player?03:48
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surgychalmer: any more questions? trust me you dont want to do it if your windozer is precious, and your not prepared03:52
chalmersurgy > yea im new to linux about 3 weeks sofar . but i was about to give up on it b/c it ran sluggish and tha frigg'n internet was worse than dial-up. and its installed on a pentium 3 computer w/ 128 mgs pc 100. but im not ready to give up yet.thats why i wanted to install it on my windows computer that a newly built. mayb it should run smoother03:53
pbcustom98128mb ram...wow03:53
hawk_!iso03:53
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.03:53
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surgychalmer: its sluggish becuase you shouldnt use kubuntu with less than 256 mb ram, use xubuntu on the 128mb system03:54
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pbcustom98anyone know a good .flac player?03:58
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chalmersurgy >  so if it were u would leave it on tha Pentium 3 computer but install Xubuntu instead of kubuntu?03:58
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crdlbchalmer, stick some more ram in it and you can run any *ubuntu03:58
surgychalmer: go to #xubuntu and ask those guys, but yes im running a 300 mhz laptop with 64 mb ram, and its a celeron on xubuntu and its not bad03:58
ernieKubuntu runs nicely with 1gig of Ram if you can get it03:59
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philphotoI'm trying to install mp3 support for amarok & it says I need to install libxine-extracodecs manually.  this library doesn't exist as far as I can tell.  has it been superceded?03:59
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surgyernie: i run it well and multitask constantly with half that04:00
chalmersurgy >  ok, yea ubuntu is still installed on tha P3 comp. i will do that if i can get my hands on some pc100 ram....lol04:00
erniewell I do have a VMserver running now and then - for when I need to windoze :) so yeah 512M should suit04:00
surgychalmer: lol beleave it or not pc 100 is still rare here, everyone still uses it..... kindof sad04:00
philphotoanyone? anyone?04:01
surgyphilphoto: check this04:02
surgy!mp3 | philphoto04:02
ubotuphilphoto: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:02
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philphotodang, I'm back to having a horribly slow computer.04:03
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chalmersurgy > yea i got open suse 10.1 but i like kubuntu tha best b/c of tha kde desktop04:03
pbcustom98i got flac to play..hooah04:04
surgychalmer: many linux and unix distros have kde, its not kubuntu specific04:05
surgychalmer: im pretty sure suse can get kde04:05
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chalmersurgy > i like tha blue them n kubuntu. and tha brown theme in ubuntu wasn'nt to bad either thou04:06
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hawk_anyone know where wine is at i mean the root directory i know it is hidden but i just cant seem to rember where it is hidden at lol04:07
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pbcustom98in terminal --> locate wine04:08
hawk_thnx lol why did i not think of that lol04:08
pbcustom98:)04:08
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surgychalmer: best thing for you bro, do you homework, read everything you can get your hands on, starting with the FAQ of several distros and windows managers04:09
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chalmersurgy > in tha P3 computer tha internet is sooooo slow . loading tha browser too worse tha dial-up. could that also b from tha lack of ram?04:11
chalmersurgy > i got DSL04:12
surgy_afkchalmer: definately04:12
chalmersurgy > ty04:12
pbcustom98looking into a lighter window manager04:12
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pollyochalmer: I'm running a P3 with little memory and things apper quite fast for me.04:12
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hitmanWillyi used to use flux on my old machine04:13
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surgy_afkchalmer: np i gotta go now04:14
chalmerpollyo > yea i got a P3 w/ 128 mgs of pc100 ram but <surgy> just imformed me that i need atleat 256 of ram04:14
pollyochalmer: I have 256 in this machine.04:15
soulrider!netbeans04:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:15
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chalmerpollyo > yea i got to try to get another stick of 128 pc100 so that ill have 25604:16
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daskreech2still upgrading04:17
chalmerpollyo > just haveing 128 kubuntu is slow but my god tha internet is worse than dial-up and it takes forever to even load tha browser04:18
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pollyochalmer: I'm impressed what I can do with 256 on this machine with a P3.04:18
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pollyochalmer: I can not wait until I take the time to invest in a new drive for my Dell E510 and setup a dual boot system on it.04:19
chalmerpollyo > yea me to hell i bet my window xp os would'nt run that smooth04:19
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Nathan_RyanOk, so I'm viewing an image in Firefox, Picasso's Guernica to be exact - and I can see subtle variations in colour.  I save the image to the HDD and open in in both GIMP and Gwenview and it looks completely monochromatic.  I import the image into Open Office Writer and it looks as it originally did in Firefox.  Anyone have any idea what's up with the disparity in colourspace?04:20
Nathan_RyanAlso... has anyone here seen the original Guernica?04:21
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daskreech2has anyone used xen on kubuntu04:22
pollyo!xen04:22
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy04:22
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daskreech2yeah i get that ;-004:22
daskreech2 i just want to know if the video card is virtualized as well04:23
pollyodaskreech2: Is that similar to qemu or does it use qemu?04:23
daskreech2qemu is a virtual machine xen is a hypervisor04:23
pollyodaskreech2: Ok.  I know very little in this area what is hypervisor?04:24
pbcustom98anyone in here program in python?04:24
chalmerpollyo > can i install my Microsoft game in kubuntu?04:25
pbcustom98not all the time04:25
chalmerpollyo > can i install my Microsoft games in kubuntu?04:25
pollyochalmer: You might be able to install some using wine.04:25
daskreech2a virtual machine runs on top of a OS describing a machine and passing the commands to the real hardware04:25
pollyochalmer: I would suggest a dual boot system for games though.04:25
pbcustom98some games can install with wine, some have linux counterparts04:25
daskreech2a hypervisor runs beneath the os and intercepts calls04:26
pbcustom98some flat out dont work04:26
daskreech2chalmer: which games?04:26
chalmerpollyo > do i need to start wine b/4 i insert tha games?04:26
pollyodeskreech2: So the OSes run ontop of the hypervisor?04:26
steve_why the configuration window in Kubuntu differ than the one in Debian. In Debian it's a window with icons on the left and configuration option in main window and in kubuntu it's a window full of big icons which start external apps.04:26
daskreech2pollyo: yes04:26
pollyodaskreech2: Xen is a hypervisor?04:27
daskreech2yes04:27
chalmerpollyo > AOE's Far cry and soforth04:27
pollyodaskreech2: I'll have to look into it.  Thanks.04:27
daskreech2steve_: you want kcontrol04:27
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pollyo!xen04:27
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy04:27
daskreech2chalmer: some you can some you can't04:27
daskreech21games04:27
daskreech2!games04:27
steve_thanks daskreech2. Are you saying Debian use kcontrol and not kubuntu?04:27
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org04:28
daskreech2steve_: alt+f2 -> Kcontrol04:28
hitmanWillychalmer: i know far cry has a linux installer04:28
daskreech2if you feel better04:28
daskreech2hitmanWilly: REally?04:28
daskreech2that's sweet04:28
chalmerpollyo > ok04:28
hitmanWillyyeah, just google it04:28
chalmerhitmanwilly ok04:28
chalmerpollyo > got a ?04:29
steve_daskreech2:thanks I'll try the alt+f204:29
chalmerpollyo > how come when i insert a cd it doesnt auto load like windows does?04:30
daskreech2steve_: or alt+space -> system -> <enter>04:30
daskreech2chalmer: New OS04:30
daskreech2chalmer: each OS autoruns CDs a different way04:31
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chalmerpollyo > well every linux os that ive installed the past week does it" Suse 10.1 / ubuntu 6.10 and now kubuntu04:32
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chalmerpollyo > when i insert a cd it shows a icon of it on tha desktop and when i click it. itjust opens a window showing only files a folders in it04:34
chalmerpollyo > it does'nt auto load like windows does. just wondering why not?04:35
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carutsuhow do i turn off the check hdd option, currently is checking my windows partition and is making kubuntu very slow04:35
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daskreech2chalmer: I just explained04:37
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pbcustom98linux isnt as hand holding as windows, thats why.04:37
chalmerdaskreech2 > o" i must have missed it. sry ill scroll up more04:38
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carutsuhow do i turn off the check hdd option, currently is checking my windows partition and is making kubuntu very slow04:38
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dwidmanncarutsu, hit alt+f2 -> kdesu kate /etc/fstab04:38
daskreech2chalmer: It''s a different OS Each OS has a different way to make CDs autorun04:38
carutsuthanks04:38
dwidmannIn the file it opens, Look for the windows line04:39
vvvis thier a kubuntu daily release site?04:39
dwidmannthere should be two numbers on the end (each being either a 0, 1, or 2), change them both to 004:39
daskreech2THe cds you have are only made to work in Windows04:39
chalmerpollyo > well every linux os that ive installed the past week does it" Suse 10.1 / ubuntu 6.10 and now kubuntu04:39
carutsudwidmann thank you!04:39
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dwidmannYou're welcome carutsu, I hope that does the trick04:40
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carutsudwidmann what does the 2 mean? my /home has 0 204:40
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chalmer it does'nt auto load like windows does. just wondering why not?04:40
daskreech2chalmer: It runs the files or it opens a window with the files?04:40
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chalmerdoes linux in lack of drivers or something?04:41
dwidmannchalmer, with most cds that "autorun" in windows, it does so by running a windows executable binary called "autorun.exe", in those cases it won't autorun in linux.04:41
pbcustom98chalmer: did you know linux is open source?04:41
chalmeryea04:41
carutsudwidmann another question i need accents so i enabled them on the kewboard settings, (this is a laptop) but now the Fn+Up and Fn+Down doesnt change the volume anymore04:41
pbcustom98do you know what open source means?04:41
carutsu!open source04:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about open source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:42
carutsuxDm didn't work04:42
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pbcustom98google it04:42
pbcustom98define: open source04:42
chalmerummmm.... free for all04:42
dwidmanncarutsu, I'm really not sure ... I don't have to deal with a laptop myself.04:42
dwidmanngah, I have a nosebleed :(04:43
carutsudwidmann thank you anyway04:43
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vvvdoes kubuntu have a daily update fight like ubuntu does?04:43
tmbgdwidmann, stop picking your nose. :P04:43
pbcustom98haha nose picker04:43
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dwidmannI don't pick my nose.04:43
carutsuchalmer that is only a consecuence, it means free as in beer, xD04:43
tmbgvvv, for all practical purposes kubuntu IS ubuntu, really.04:43
daskreech2vvv yes04:43
vvvhow would i go about uninstalling ubuntu after installing kubuntu04:43
chalmeri know04:43
tmbgjust with a fancy installer, kde preinstalled, etc.04:43
V|3LGuno kubuntu is not ubuntu04:43
vvvor is thie a command i could enter in terminal?04:44
vvvi want to remove gnome04:44
daskreech2vvv: you can remove most stuff i don't know about all04:44
pbcustom98could do you it via adept, im not a command junkie yet04:44
dwidmannvvv: something like adept_updater?04:44
pbcustom98you could do it*04:44
vvvyeah04:44
pbcustom98probably something like _ sudo remove desktop-gnome04:45
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pbcustom98if that makes any sense at all04:45
vvvi can't install through the beta fawn releases i have to use a daily build from ubuntu.. but i want kubuntu cause of all the nice programs04:45
dwidmannvvv, about removing gnome: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde04:45
vvvand layout04:45
vvvbut when you switch over you have to choose on login and stuff like that its very annoying04:45
chalmer im just wondering ! if linux want to be popular like windows and wants people to buy their os then why not make it easyer on the new people to04:45
chalmerthat is to b sold on retail computers04:46
daskreech2vvv: you can aptitude remove gtk04:46
dwidmannchalmer: the devs DO try, but manpower is limitted. Besides, most linux distributions aren't sold, but instead are given away for free04:46
tmbgI don't want it sold on retail computers. I want retail computers to come to me blank.04:46
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nagyvhello! I would like to play a game (freecol), but not full screen. It is a java game, is there a possibility to require it to run in a window?04:46
vvvthanks so much for the link04:46
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dwidmannno problem04:47
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daskreech2chalmer: a) linux doesn't really care if it wins or not04:47
pbcustom98linux is people driven, windows is prophet driven04:47
daskreech2chalmer: b) it's up to retailers to decide some do most will not. microsoft pays them not to so It's not in their interest04:48
chalmerbut their goal is to b reconized so that they go maine stream like home users04:48
tmbgI wonder how windows will change when gates dies. I wonder how linux will change when linus dies for that matter04:48
daskreech2chalmer: for some people. it's not really the aim if linux04:48
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daskreech2most people don't use Linux becuase they want it to "win" they just use it because it works for them04:49
dwidmanntmbg: Microsoft is already in sad shape IMO ... especially now that gates stepped down04:49
tmbghe stepped down from what?04:49
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daskreech2the more people it works for the more people are happy :-) but Linux doesn't carea about domination04:49
tmbgI thought he was still the boss04:50
dwidmannNot what I heard o.O04:50
daskreech2tmbg: he hasn't been for a few years now04:50
daskreech2ballmer is the head04:50
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dwidmannBallmer is a dumb***04:50
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tmbgwhat's gates doing now then? retired?04:51
pbcustom98if i go to adept manager, search "gnome" and remove everything gnome related...will i screw everything up?04:51
Alpha_Clusterdoes anyone here know how to mount an xfs partition so that any "user" can use it?04:51
Alpha_Clusterpbcustom98, you will see nothing that i sall04:51
daskreech2pbcustom98: Gome isn't as handy to remove as KDE04:51
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daskreech2Alpha_Cluster: -o UID=0000,users I think04:52
chalmerdont yall get me wrong im not diss'n linux by no means just wish that they "linux people" can make a more user friendly os for your average home users that not IT Pro04:52
dwidmannGates, 50, who was also Microsoft's chief software architect, will give up day-to-day duties in July 2008, retaining the title of chairman.04:52
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Alpha_Clusterdaskreech2, anyway i can do it in the fstab i mean04:52
daskreech2chalmer: how could it be more User friendly?04:53
daskreech2Alpha_Cluster: just told you04:53
pbcustom98if i remove everything gnome related in adept...even if im using KDE..i wont see anything?04:53
Alpha_Cluster... oh04:53
Alpha_Clusterlol04:53
tmbgchalmer, well, it's getting easier with time. also nothing is stopping you from producing code to make it more user friendly, etc.04:53
Alpha_Clusteri was confused for a sec by -o lol04:53
tmbgfor example livecd's are pretty easy and installers based on them are simple. was easier to set that up than windows for me.04:54
dwidmannchalmer: if you've got any ideas find the appropriate people and fire away. They'd probably be more than willing to listen if you've got reasonable and/or good ideas04:54
pbcustom98does anyone know?04:54
daskreech2chalmer: what do you mean more user firendly?04:54
tmbgdwidmann, 'retaining the title of chairman' <-- I wonder what this means about how much influence he still has at the company04:54
Alpha_Clusterdaskreech2, i get an error about bad options for the partition now04:54
dwidmanntmbg: not sure, probably not much if h e doesn't participate in any day-to-day duties though04:55
pbcustom98if i remove everything gnome related in adept...even if im using KDE..i wont see anything?04:55
daskreech2tmbg: it means he doens't have to do anything but he can if he wants to04:55
Alpha_Clusterpbcustom98, you shouldnt have anything gnome related installed yet unless you added stuff04:55
tmbgit may have just relieved him from certain responsibilities but allowed him to continue to make broad policy decisions04:55
daskreech2pbcustom98: no you should b cool04:55
dwidmannperhaps04:56
tmbgI just don't see him as the type to ever really "give up the reigns"04:56
daskreech2pbcustom98: you have ubuntu installed?04:56
daskreech2tmbg: hes old give him a break04:56
daskreech2in anycase this is all offtopic04:57
daskreech2!ot04:57
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:57
tmbgI mean his personality. but yeah ot. I'll quit04:57
daskreech2no no go right ahead04:57
daskreech2just in Ot04:57
chalmerwell i guess like !!! well i dont know mayb its b/c im not familiar with tha linux nameing of the programs that it come with installed and i get fuststrated trying to find my way around to get what im trying to find to do a certain thing.04:58
Alpha_Clusterdaskreech2, do you by any chance know why xfs wont let me mount using commands like uid=?04:58
daskreech2pbcustom98: I heard that you had ubuntu installed What I meant was how did you install kubuntu?04:58
daskreech2chalmer: that just means you don't know how to get around04:58
tmbgchalmer, it would be the same for you on qnx, macos, etc etc. a new system will always take getting  used to04:58
daskreech2chalmer: honestly if you don't understand something ask here and someone will explain it to you04:59
daskreech2chalmer: I'm trying to teach my mom windows. it's not easy either trust me04:59
dwidmannalpha_cluster, ideally, I think, the best way would be to change the ownership of the files on the partition, by adding a new group, and adding all users who you want to have access to said group04:59
daskreech2pbcustom98: talk here :-) it helps more people05:00
chalmerlike i guess im familiar with windows and know how to to alot more than average user does and i know where to go a how to do certian tasks05:00
daskreech2I have no idea what Alpha_Cluster is doing so I'll be quiet05:00
Alpha_Clusterdwidmann, problem is not in the folder its getting into the folder05:00
Alpha_Clusterdwidmann, its mounting with the group as root and i need it to be user05:00
pbcustom98ok so basically nothing will be fubared if i adept-->search (gnome) and remove all gnome packages installed05:00
dwidmannmount it "normally", access it as root to change the perms05:00
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dwidmannoops, not perms, but owner/group05:01
dwidmannwell, maybe perms too, something like 774 perhaps'05:01
daskreech2chalmer: right so you 'think' it's easy :-) if it helps any you are the category of persons that would find Linux the hardest05:01
chalmeryes05:02
chalmerlol05:02
pbcustom98what is the difference of removing something vs purging ?05:02
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Alpha_Clusterpbcustom98, purge gets rid of the configuration files as well05:02
dwidmannpbcustom98: purging removes the settings files too05:02
daskreech2chalmer: however you will probably also be really grateful once you get your system setup05:02
Alpha_Clusterdwidmann, i tried using chown but it doesnt change owner05:03
pbcustom98well if im removing it..do i need the config files?05:03
chalmerlol yes but more than all learn my way around linux like i do windows05:03
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pbcustom98ok, so now --> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.05:04
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daskreech2chalmer: just try and not think about the windows way. just figure out what you want to do and ask05:04
chalmerso that ill know what program to go to to do this and what program to go to to do this05:04
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daskreech2chalmer: so what do you wanna do? ;-d05:05
pbcustom98chalmer: bottom line is this...linux isnt windows. things need to be "learned"...its hard at first, but give it time05:05
dwidmannAlpha_Cluster: that's odd05:05
dwidmannsomething like "chgrp thenewgroup -R *"05:05
chalmerO" yea lol i know thats true05:05
dwidmannit definitely should work . .. why it wouldn't I don't know05:06
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Alpha_Clusterdwidmann, chown has never worked for me when it comes to changing mount directories05:06
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pbcustom98ok, so now --> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.  any ideas?05:07
chalmerso why is microsoft being monopoly with everthing.05:07
daskreech2cause they can05:07
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daskreech2pbcustom98: what failed?05:08
chalmerwhy dont Dell ,Compaq and other retail computers got with linux sinse its free?05:08
soulriderchalmer: who knows05:08
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tmbgsome retailers will sell you a system with linux preinstalled05:09
daskreech2chalmer: want to read an article on it?05:09
chalmerbut u said that microsoft pays them to use windows on their computer05:09
pgraves__Guys, Im installing Ubuntu on another computer thats going to be mainly a file server.... this is my second or third install and I was wanting to customize it a little more on this PC.... can someone advise me to partition structures05:09
daskreech2chalmer: it does05:09
Alpha_Clusterchalmer, lets just say its easier to support one Windows as opposed to 3-6 linux distros when it comes to support05:09
mantoncan anyone help me with gmail notify? I'm not sure what to put for "browser Path"   I'm using firefox...05:09
pgraves__I was thinking about creating a /boot, a /tmp a SWAP a /home and a /05:09
tmbgchalmer, yes so sometimes they have to charge you more for a system w/ linux preinstalled. :(05:09
daskreech2pbcustom98: do a search for gtk instead of gnome05:10
daskreech2pbcustom98: filter by installed05:10
daskreech2manton: open a konsole and type which firefox05:10
dwidmannAlpha_Cluster: , but that wasn't the thing you really need to change. What you need to change is the permission for all of the files within the directory ...05:10
pgraves__Can someone advise me (maybe in private?) onto recommended partitions, their set-up and size... I did a lot of reading but still had some questions05:10
Alpha_Clusterdwidmann, no because there ARE NO FILES!05:10
Alpha_Clusteri cant write to it so there is nothing05:11
daskreech2pbcustom98: ask questions here :-)05:11
mantondaskreech2, what console?05:11
daskreech2pbcustom98: oh go to preview changes and cancel all05:11
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pgraves__Anyone?05:11
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daskreech2pgraves__: just ask here.05:11
pgraves__I did, or I tried05:11
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dwidmann... crud, hmmmmmm05:12
pgraves__Basically I am installing Ubuntu... I read that its a better idea to have several partitions... i.e. one for /boot, one for /tmp a SWAP, one for /home and one for /..... but I wanted to know ideas on sizes and what should be logical/primary05:12
pgraves__oh and a /var05:12
mantonDaskreech, in extensions, what do i type?05:12
Daskreechpgraves__: what are you using the computer for?05:13
chalmeri know Suse has gone retail in stores so i guess thats a start05:13
pgraves__Fileserver mainly.... though it may evolve into other things05:13
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pgraves__its got 320GB of hdd capacity05:13
pgraves__512MB of memory (likely to be upgraded soon)05:13
Daskreechmanton: no clue :-)05:13
Daskreechmanton: alt+space -> konsole -> press enter05:14
chalmeri wish i knew a friend that uses linux so that i could watch them do certina tasks to learn from05:14
Daskreechchalmer: what do yo uwant to do?05:15
pbcustom98ok, heres the deal: i installed ubuntu, then installed KDE. decided i liked it more the gnome. now i want to remove all gnome/gtk packages via adept...how do i go about doing this (im using beryl if it makes any difference)05:15
dwidmannalpha_cluster: looks like xfs doesn't support any of the mount options you previously looked into05:15
pgraves__Anyone have recommendaations on the partition set-up? OR at least can someone tell me what partitions should be logical & which should be primary (I made all the partitions primary and it wont let me add more, according to my reading only 4 should be primary). I just dont know which should be primary05:15
chalmernothing i general not untill i get more ram.05:15
Daskreechpbcustom98: look for a libgtk ?05:16
dwidmannman mount and scroll the bottom if you want to see what options there are though05:16
Daskreechchalmer: then rock some tunes and kick back05:16
dwidmannseemedly nothing related05:16
pgraves__...?05:16
Daskreechpgraves__: /boot 150 mb05:16
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dwidmann// = about 10 gb05:17
dwidmannthen give /home the rest ... works fairly well that way05:17
Daskreechpgraves__: / maybe 6 gb05:17
Daskreechdwidmann: he wants a fileserver05:17
chalmerso i need to run Samba to run the network wizard to see my other 4 computers on tha network? is that correct?05:18
pgraves__What about logical versus primary?05:18
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Daskreechchalmer: no05:19
Daskreechpgraves__: /boot has to be primary05:19
dwidmann'doh05:19
pgraves__and I was going to create separate partitions for /var and /tmp as well (maybe even /usr?)05:19
pgraves__should boot be the ONLY primary?05:19
chalmerDaskreech> what do i run?05:19
dwidmannDepends on where he wants to put his files then ... Maybe somewhere like /var?05:20
Daskreechpgraves__: boot is the only one that needs to be primamry05:20
Daskreechafter that it's up o05:20
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pgraves__Does 2GB sound reasonable for /var05:20
pgraves__My understanding is /var is mainly just logs05:20
dwidmannpgraves: it really doesn't matter what's primary for most things. Not even boot need be primary (like on my system, I have it as an extended partition, and it works fine)05:20
pbcustom98http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde is this the correct way to remove all of gnome/gtk05:20
Daskreechchalmer: open konqueror05:20
dwidmannpgraves__: pretty much05:21
chalmerok05:21
Daskreechtype smb:/05:21
chalmerDaskreech> ok05:22
Daskreechha ha05:22
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Daskreechpbcustom98: assuming that you didn't install anything else05:22
pgraves__For "cleanliness", should data normally be kept in /home? (I.E. its a file server, so should my data, such as music/docs etc be in /home/Data/Music, /home/Data/Documents, etc.?)05:23
chalmerDaskreech> so i click this"05:23
chalmerNetwork Folders05:23
chalmerShared files and folders05:23
Daskreechthere you go05:23
chalmerin conquer05:24
pbcustom98are gnome and KDE repositories the same?05:25
Daskreechyes05:25
chalmerthen i click this icon"Samba Shares05:25
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pgraves__Anyone see a problem with this setup: /boot=150MB, /var=2048MB, SWAP=1.5GB, /tmp=2GB, /home=280GB, /=34GB05:26
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Daskreechpgraves__: holy hell :-)05:26
pgraves__what?05:26
Daskreechwhat are you storing in / ?05:27
Daskreechwait I guess you could put thing in /opt05:27
pgraves__Everything else I guess? (Any programs I may ever install)05:27
DaskreechI guess that's ok05:27
chalmerDaskreech> do i click Samba shares" or " Add a network folder" or " Network services" ?05:27
pgraves__34GB excessive?05:27
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dwidmann34 gb is a bit excessive05:27
Daskreechpgraves__: I have 6 gb on my machine which I installed 3 years ago and I'm up to 70%05:27
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dwidmannI have a ton installed and I'm still only taking up 8 gb or so05:28
Daskreechand it's not like I hold back on installing anything that catches my eye05:28
chalmerDaskreech> do i click Samba shares" or " Add a network folder" or " Network services" ?05:28
Daskreechdwidmann: what are you file serving?05:28
Daskreechsamba shares05:28
chalmerk05:29
Daskreechchalmer: don't be afraid to experiment :-)05:29
dwidmannWait a minute, It's probably less than 8gb ..... I'm not file serving. I'm just doing whatever it is that I do, which includes everything under the sun.05:29
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dwidmannCome to think of it, I'm pretty sure a gb or so of my space taken up is probably from /var/cache/apt/archives05:29
mefisto_gofishmmmmMMMM I am ready for kde405:30
pgraves__Ok, I updated /home=300GB, /=14GB05:30
chalmerDaskreech> lol05:30
dwidmannouch, more than I thought, filelight says it's 1.9gb05:30
Daskreechpgraves__: sure05:30
Daskreechdwidmann: apt-get autoclean :-)05:30
pgraves__Ok is anyone here familiar with doing a linux software raid? (I think I understand what Im supposed to do, but would love to talk to someone)05:30
dwidmannNo, not until feisty is "released"05:31
dwidmannI might just need this cache05:31
chalmerDaskreech> lol... ive been doing that for the past 3 weeks now  and got a big head ache now05:31
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philphotoI need to lock a lib version & synaptic isn't applying the change.  help?05:31
IPx-Is there a theme manager in kubuntu?05:31
pgraves__Should I set the filesystem for ALL of those partitions (Except SWAP) to "Physical Volume for RAID"?05:32
dwidmannIPx: alt +f2 -> kcontrol. Appearances -> themes05:32
mefisto_gofishpgraves__: Sorry, I am not.  Are you sure that's what you want to do?  Everything I've read about software raid says it's slow, slow slow05:32
dwidmannmefisto_gofish: It doesn't seem to bad from my experience. Then again, my computer can still give most any of the new ones on the market a good run for their money05:33
pgraves__What I read suggested it should be fine.... and TECHNICALLY I wanted hardware raid, but apparently my motherboard's "Hardware Raid" is only "Hardware" in Windows.... LOL, tell me thats not retarded...05:33
chalmerDaskreech> gosh that was faster than running windows network wizard05:33
Daskreechchalmer: yup05:33
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IPx-dwidmann: cool thanks. I was looking around it System Settings for it :)05:33
philphotoanyone?05:33
pgraves__Once again though...... should I set all the filesystems to "Physical volume for RAID"?05:33
mefisto_gofishpgraves__: Is the hardware just not supported by the kernel or is it "hardware" raid in the same sense that winmodems are "hardware"05:33
dwidmannpgraves__: the one on your motherboard is basically "FakeRaid", it's not really hardware in windows either05:33
dwidmannIt's really software raid, in windows it's just more transparent because you installed xyz drives off the motherboards cd05:34
dwidmann*drivers05:34
pgraves__exactly its hardware in the sense of Windmodems are "hardware"05:34
pgraves__Biostar neglected to mention that in the advertising of course05:34
dwidmannYeah, I got hit with that too with my ASUS board05:35
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dwidmannI used LVM instead of RAID anymore, seeing as I don't really need redundancy.05:35
mefisto_gofishMy machine has passed the 3 year mark... raid of any kind hasn't crossed my mind05:35
chalmerDaskreech> ok now how do i get my other 4 computers w/ windows to reconize my kubuntu computer on my network? do i need to run tha ""Network set-up wizard" in windows again??/05:35
pgraves__Dwidmann: Can you help me setup the software RAID, Im using the Ubuntu-6.10 Alternate CD (Text-based installer) and am at the point where partitions must manually be made05:35
posingaspopularpgraves__, what do you need05:36
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dwidmannpgraves__: planning on using the fakeraid? (dmraid), or pure software raid (mdadm)?05:36
pgraves__pure software raid05:36
pgraves__from what I read md seemed the best05:36
dwidmannwhat raid level do you want to use?05:36
pgraves__105:36
pgraves__just redundancy05:36
philphotoneed some help: I need to lock a library version and synaptic won't apply the change.05:36
dwidmannkay05:36
chalmerDaskreech> ok now how do i get my other 4 computers w/ windows to reconize my kubuntu computer on my network? do i need to run tha ""Network set-up wizard" in windows again??/05:37
pgraves__I have 6 partitions created, /boot, /var, /tmp, /home, /, & SWAP05:37
dwidmannpgraves__: there are some really nice wikis on the RAID setup. I'm going to dig them up for you05:37
pgraves__I was hoping to continually mirror all of those (except SWAP) to my other HDD05:37
pgraves__DWIDMANN: I probably have them (I have about a dozen onscreen, including the official Ubuntu one)05:38
Daskreechchalmer: that's harder :-)05:38
pgraves__I just would really feel more comfortable working with someone to avoid misinterpreting the wikis05:38
chalmerlol05:38
Daskreechchalmer: what are you sharing from the Linux machine?05:38
chalmerfor real?05:38
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Daskreechchalmer: what for real?05:38
dwidmannpgraves, easiest time to do the raid setup is to do it while you're doing the installation, and not after (not to say that it can't be done after, I did)05:39
chalmerummmm... nothig yet i suppose05:39
dwidmann(but it was more involved)05:39
pgraves__im at the install right now05:39
Daskreechyou just want to do it?05:39
pgraves__im at the manually edit partition section of the install (using Ubuntu 6.10 Alternate (text-based))05:39
dwidmannalternate cd right? during the manual partitioning section is where you can do the raid05:40
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pgraves__yup05:40
dwidmannCreate two partitions on two disks05:40
dwidmannmake them RAW RAID volumes (or whichever it was)05:40
dwidmannIt's something like that anyhow05:40
Daskreechubuntu? pffffft05:40
dwidmannLVM setup is done the same way05:40
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pgraves__Thats what I thought... BUT when I do that it removes the mount point? Is that ok?05:40
dwidmannYeah05:40
pgraves__kk, one moment05:41
dwidmannnow, along the top in the main manual edit partition screen05:41
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dwidmannthere should be something that speaks of RAID, pick it05:41
chalmerDaskreech> ok then will or can windows see my linux comp. on tha network?since it does'nt support linux05:41
dwidmannIt will ask you which volumes you want to make part of the RAID set, pick the two you just made, and continue05:42
Daskreechchalmer: you can do it three ways05:42
pbcustom98ok question: everytime i login, i have to setup my resolution thru the nvidia control panel...how do i change this? ( saved it to my xorg config)05:42
dwidmannThere will now be another partition listed, this one a RAID partition, from here you can format it and assign a mount point05:42
chalmerDaskreech> ok05:42
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Daskreechchalmer: the fastest easiest way is the most annoying under windows the hardest way to setup is the easiest to use under windows05:42
chalmerDaskreech> ok uuhhhhhhmmmmmm what does that mean n english05:44
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Daskreechchalmer: the easy setup is annoying to access in windows05:44
Daskreechthe hard setup (very annoying) will be easy to use though05:45
pbcustom98ok question: everytime i login, i have to setup my resolution thru the nvidia control panel...how do i change this? ( saved it to my xorg config)05:45
pgraves__DWIDMAN: One moment, Im still setting up the partitions, Ive created each partition twice now (once per hard drive). However, should I create a SWAP partition on both hard drives? (I dont want my system to actually use both swap partitions, but if one hard drive fails I want the other to be fully functional)05:45
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chalmerDaskreech> so the network wizard in windows it out of tha question05:45
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Daskreechchalmer: no run it in linux :-)05:46
chalmerDaskreech> so what other options do i got left?05:46
Daskreechchalmer: there are three ways to get Windows to see Linux I can think of05:46
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pgraves__?05:47
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Daskreechthere is an easy install05:47
Daskreechwhich is going to suck when you try and access it05:47
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ubuntuintelikey got dialup lame05:48
chalmerDaskreech> i did run it in linux and it shows all 5 computers w/ windows so do i need to restart all 5 of them to see my linux comp05:48
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Daskreechand a hard install that will be very easy to get to in windows05:48
azaoii05:48
pgraves__Dwidmann, still with me?05:48
dwidmannpgraves: I'd avoid doing it with swap, it's not necessary05:48
pgraves__what do you mean?05:49
dwidmannpgraves__: also, it might complicate things if you do the boot partition too, but I'm not sure.05:49
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dwidmannpgraves__ from what I've read the swap stripes by default if you have more than one swap partition, and that will give better performance anyhow05:49
crazy_busin windows you could quickly open things with windows key+a letter.  Does kubuntu have shortcuts like this?05:50
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philphotoneed to lock a library version in synaptic but it's not applying the change.  help please?05:50
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intelikeyaza  hmmm  oh yeah dialup.05:51
Daskreechcrazy_bus: what are you talking about?05:52
intelikeyaza you can buy me a satalite if you want... :)05:52
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Daskreechthere is no win+a05:52
Daskreechcrazy_bus: In any case alt+space05:52
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crazy_busto load windows explorer you pressed windowkey+e.  To search winkey+f etc05:52
chalmerDaskreech> i take it that linux does not support .wma music files since i just went to them on my windows comp. when i open tha music folders they are empty05:53
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Daskreech!w3205:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:53
tmbgtakes whatever extra codec stuff.05:53
Daskreech!w32codecs05:53
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs05:53
tmbgyeah that.05:53
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Daskreech!codecs | chalmer. Read this05:54
ubotuchalmer. Read this: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:54
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intelikeysystem seems a little lighter now.05:56
philphotohello there?05:56
intelikeyof course i had to reinstall the irc client and related support  (ppp and friends)05:57
philphotoI need to lock a library version in synaptic but it's not applying my change.  need some help with this issue.05:57
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pgraves__im really confused now...... I created 6 partitions on each hard drive, I then changed 5 on each hard drive to be "physical volume for raid", I then chose "configure software raid" and did "create new "md device". It asked me how many active partitions and how many spares, I told them 5 each... then it asked me to select the 5 actives (i did so) and then it asked me to select the 5 spares (which I also did). After doing all 05:59
pgraves__e everything is still the way I left it EXCEPT now there is an extra device called "RAID DEVICE" which has a partition of 147.9MB05:59
pgraves__The closest partition I have to this is my partition that I palanned to ues for /boot (which is 148MB)05:59
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pgraves__Did it just RAID only the first partition and I still have to raid the others? If so why did it ask me for actives & spares... why didnt it ask me for an active (singular) and A Spare (singular)05:59
pgraves__?06:00
dwidmannpgraves__: assuming you only want pairs, you do only one pair at a time06:00
pgraves__oh06:00
pgraves__well then06:00
pgraves__kk, one sec06:00
dwidmannyou'd have to jump back into that dialog 2 more times06:00
dwidmannjust connect the dots with the partitions of like sizes06:00
intelikey2 more times ?06:01
intelikey4 more06:01
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dwidmannhow many pairs is he making again o.O06:02
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intelikeydwidmann 5 pairs06:03
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dwidmannah well06:04
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intelikeyme thinks five active and five spare equals five pairs06:05
dwidmannI bet you do06:05
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pgraves__Ok, I just setup FIVE RAID PAIRs (I created FIVE MDs)06:06
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cotycan someone tell me were control center is06:07
pgraves__now I presume I then modify the created "RAID Partitions" to reflect their mount points06:07
intelikeycoty alt+f2 kcontrol06:07
cotythanks06:07
inteliwasp!fchk06:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fchk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:08
pgraves__If so, should they all be ext3 or is there any reason to do otherwise? (Besides Other OS Compatibility)06:08
Betzeferwhat gui firewall do u use ?06:08
philphotoif anyone can help me with this problem, I'd appreciate it:  I need to lock a library version and synaptic won't apply my changes.  help needed06:08
pbcustom98ok question: everytime i login, i have to setup my resolution thru the nvidia control panel...how do i change this? ( saved it to my xorg config)06:08
intelikeyBetzefer firewall ?06:08
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Betzefergui firewall06:09
intelikey!firewall06:09
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:09
Betzeferlike firestarter06:09
pgraves__intelikey or dwidmann..... is there any reason for them not to be ext3 for my /boot, /home, /, /tmp, & /var ?06:09
dwidmannpgraves__: no, not really.06:09
intelikeypgraves__ nothing official.  but i have had less trubble with ext2 than with ext3    that's only personal exp.06:10
dwidmannOnly thing you'll ever need to watch out for is that /boot can never be on an xfs partition06:10
pgraves__Ok, writing changes to disk (Something tells me this is going to take a while)06:10
pgraves__OS Installing06:10
pgraves__:: Crosses Fingers ::06:11
intelikeydwidmann gnome issue ?06:11
dwidmannGNOME? what would that have to do with me again exactly?06:11
intelikeysorry.  grub06:11
dwidmannYes.06:11
intelikeyduh it's saturday night....06:11
dwidmannhehe, I know the feeling, sort of.06:12
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intelikeydwidmann then using lilo would probably circumvent that issue.06:12
pgraves__Now, so the THEORY is if I save data to this system and then I shut down the system and unplug one of the HDDs I should still have the data and then if I shut down again and unplug the remaining hard drive but replug the first hard drive I would still have the data also  correct? Basically if I unplug EITHER hard drives I should be able to boot into Ubuntu and access ANY data that was saved while both hard drives were in the06:13
philphotoI need to lock a library version and synaptic won't apply my changes.  help needed06:13
dwidmannProbably, but it's faster just to set it up this way (with ext2 /boot partition). I'm more familiar with grub anyhow06:13
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pgraves__ARGH and error just popped up while installing06:13
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pgraves__"Unable to install the selected kernel"06:13
intelikeypgraves__ i see one flaw in the idea   the boot process...06:14
philphotoin theory that's right, but I just separated a RAID 1 array (windows) and thank goodness I had everything backed up, because now I just have two separate drives & unreadable partitions.06:14
dwidmannpgraves: you didn't do the RAID on the /boot partition did you? That's usually a bad idea, it will cause the installer to bomb out06:15
intelikeydwidmann lilo is a walk in the park.    i now have both setup and can bat back and forth between at boot time.06:15
philphotowell, not so much anymore :) now that I have two different distros installed on both of them.06:15
pgraves__yes, I did the raid on the boot partition.... I wanted to make the hdd a COMPLETE mirror.... i.e. if could unplug EITHER hard drive any the server would still boot/function properly06:15
dwidmannpgraves__: let me see if I can find something on getting that to work then, I'm not sure if it's doable or not thoguh06:16
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intelikeypgraves__ same size disks ?06:16
pgraves__identical06:16
pgraves__and all of the partitions are identical06:16
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pgraves__more specifically the kernel package its trying is "linux-image-generic"06:17
intelikeyidea.   setup on one.  don't do raid at all.    when finished dd the one to the other.   total mirror06:17
pgraves__dd?06:17
intelikeyyep.06:17
pgraves__what is dd?06:17
intelikeyman dd06:17
pgraves__dd looks more aimed for files not for partitions06:18
intelikeythey ported dd to dos under the name "rawwrite.exe"  well sort of a port....06:18
intelikeypgraves__ nope.    and even if it were so.  everything is a file.06:19
pgraves__so Intelikey, your suggestion is to raid EVERYTHING except /boot,  then once the OS is loaded image /boot to the corresponding partition I have setup for /boot?06:19
intelikeyno i don't think that's what i said.06:20
intelikeylet me not confuse you some more maybe.06:20
pgraves__you mean dd ALL the partitions?06:20
intelikeyi mean dd the disk06:20
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pgraves__but dd is a one time thing, not an ongoing action06:20
pgraves__I need realtime mirroring06:20
intelikeyoh then why were you talking unplug ?06:21
Voorhees86how i install java jsk606:21
Voorhees86jdk606:21
Voorhees86?06:21
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hawk_if the nv logo dos not show up at start up dos that mean the drivers are not working06:22
pgraves__Basically.... my server has two hard drives... I want them to be COMPLETE mirrors of one another. Once this is done I want to test it by shutting the system down..... and rebooting with one of the HDDs unplugged, then once I see that working I will try rebooting with only the OTHER HDD plugged in that way I know they're both fully bootable and mirrored)06:22
intelikeyhawk_ i think that's right.06:22
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pgraves__and I want the mirrors to continually update.... Im trying to setup redundancy06:22
philphotohelp please.  I need to lock a library version and synaptic is not applying my changes.  help please.06:23
hawk_dam how can i get them to work i have downloaded them with adept06:23
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intelikeypgraves__ i may be wrong about it,  probably am, but i think you will need a blank drive to replace the one you remove if you dont want the raid to crap out.... someone may need to step in on that.06:24
intelikey!nv | hawk_06:25
ubotuhawk_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:25
intelikeybest i can do for you on that hawk_06:25
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hawk_intelikey:thanks man anything helps06:25
philphotoanyone out there that may be able to help?06:25
hawk_!opengl06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
pgraves__Intelikey... I have TWO blank drives right now.... what Im trying to do is to setup a RAID option so that if 2 years down the road one of them fails, the other will boot fine and contain all useful data06:25
intelikeyi tried to get the packaged drivers to work for my system and failed perfectly well.06:26
carutsuhey how do i mount shared windows folders?06:26
intelikeypgraves__ but if you remove one and don't put a blank in it's place and power the system wont it "unraid" it's self ?06:26
Voorhees86how i install java jdk6?06:27
intelikey!jdk06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
intelikeyme and the bot both drew a blank on that...06:27
dwidmannhmm, I wonder if you could effectively mirror the /boot using rsync or similar06:27
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intelikey!sun-java5-jdk06:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sun-java5-jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:28
dwidmannVoorhees86: I thought it was in the backports repository?06:28
intelikey!sun-java5-jdk dapper06:28
soulriderintelikey: the package is sun-java6-jdk06:28
soulriderjava 5 is old :P06:28
intelikey!info sun-java5-jdk dapper06:28
ubotusun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB06:28
intelikey!info sun-java6-jdk edgy06:28
ubotuPackage sun-java6-jdk does not exist in edgy06:28
philphotoI think the easiest way to have a mirror backup drive is using an external set to backup 100% data06:28
carutsuhey how do i mount shared windows folders?06:28
philphotoinstead of RAID.06:28
intelikey!info sun-java*-jdk edgy06:28
ubotuPackage sun-java-jdk does not exist in edgy06:28
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pgraves__The way RAIDs normally work is Your system acts like its running only one Hard drive (so even though you have 2 hard drives, you're not actually able to store two hard drives worth of data). Everytime you save something to one hard drive, it also is saved to the second hard drive.... the idea is if the primary (or secondary) fails the other one kicks in, a RAID's status is normally continually available, such as healthy (all06:28
pgraves__isks are failing or failed). If I setup a raid and boot without one of hte disks, I should still be able to boot, but should be informed that the RAID status is degraded06:28
Voorhees86yeah dosent exist06:29
pgraves__dwidmann any ideas?06:29
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intelikey!info sun-java6-jdk feisty06:29
ubotusun-java6-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9269 kB, installed size 31240 kB06:29
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philphotoanyone willing to help?06:29
intelikeyVoorhees86 what release are you running ?06:29
dwidmannpgraves__: none other than the aforementioned06:29
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dwidmannphilphoto: might be able to get a better response to something about synaptic in #ubuntu06:30
philphotothanks.06:30
carutsucan anyone tell me how do i mount shared windows folders?06:30
intelikeyVoorhees86 ?06:31
hawk_intelilkey: how old are you06:31
intelikeyhawk_ yeah06:31
intelikey!nfs06:31
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.06:31
intelikeycarutsu ^  and !samba06:32
Voorhees861.606:32
hawk_intelikey: becouse i owe you a beer06:32
pgraves__dwidmann, your suggestion is to not raid /boot correct?06:32
hawk_cold beer06:32
intelikeyhawk_ too old for that.   but thanks just the same.06:32
hawk_;)06:32
hawk_intelikey: yeah just forgot one step and then i did it and it all working06:33
carutsuintelikey yes im wel aware of samba but there's a package i need before i can mount a folder as smb but ic ant recall what was06:33
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intelikeyVoorhees86 in a konsole do  lsb_release -a    and tell me the code name please06:33
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intelikey!samba06:34
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:34
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pgraves__according to the interweb it is06:36
intelikeylink ?06:36
=== intelikey doubts any thing mentioned about whole disk anything
pgraves__True, they did not mention whole disk, but they do offer screenshots to partition setup06:37
intelikeyhardware raid would i guess.06:37
hawk_anyone know a good cd burning program that will burn music cds from mp3s06:37
pgraves__http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html06:38
intelikeypgraves__ i don't use partitions.06:38
surgyim trying to get panda 3d to work on my kubuntu 6.10 edgy install and im trying to compile from source, im finding out that its not the usual steps in a compile can someone help please?06:38
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HaSH!k3b > hawk_06:38
HaSH!k3b | hawk_06:38
ubotuhawk_: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto06:38
intelikeysurgy all the normal "install build-essential and kernel headers" jargon covered already ?06:39
pgraves__Would it do any good to consider setting this up as ext2 instead of ext3 (could THAT be the issue)?06:39
pgraves__dwidmann..... I never heard back from you..... was your suggestion to simply not try booting off the raid?06:40
intelikeyi can't say no to that pgraves__06:40
surgyintelikey: can you be a tad bit more clear on our question please?06:40
hawk_thanx that worked06:41
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dwidmannpgraves__: that'd be the easiest way yes06:41
dwidmannPerhaps you could just regularly back up that partiton also, with a cron job or something06:42
hawk_will k3b burn mp4 files divx to vcd or dvd06:42
intelikeysurgy just asking if you had everything you needed to install installed befor you tried to build ?06:43
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surgyintelikey: well the source package comes with a comprehensive set of additional tools to aid in game developement the readme file says to compile all the tools i want and then compile panda06:44
pgraves__dwidman.... /boot simply contains the kernel files required to initiate boot... and unless I change my kernel those wont change, correct?06:44
surgyintelikey: short answer: to the best of my knowledge06:44
intelikeyok so what is the error message ?06:44
surgyintelikey: no error message, wait, i think its installed via a python script06:45
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bill__kHi, monitor and display preferences are not working for me.  I just installed the fglrx binary drivers, now when I click the admin mode, to get out of 640x480 res, the border changes to red and it locks up06:45
bill__kagain "Monitor and Display" options under system settings06:45
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intelikeysurgy yeah an   ls --color=auto     in the root dir of the source is always the best start06:46
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hawk_bill_k what video card do you have06:47
bill__kati9800pro.06:47
bill__kI was originally trying to install the binary driver for dual monitor support06:47
bill__know I just want out of 640x480 lol06:47
dwidmannpgraves__: correct06:47
intelikeywell you fellows will "perscuse" me now,  i'm went.06:48
hawk_bill_k well sorry i cant find anything06:49
pgraves__HOLY (INSERT preferred slang for fecal matter here), I THINK ITS WORKING... I changed all the partitions to EXT2 & reaffirmed that mount points were set for all raid partitions and it APPEARs to have gotten past where it was stuck06:49
bill__khawk_: thanks for looking06:49
dwidmannhooray06:49
hawk_np06:49
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pgraves__:: Crosses fingers again ::06:50
dwidmannoh, and pgraves, setting the mountpoints isn't strictly necessary ... I sometimes find it faster to do them after, all at once :)06:50
surgyintelikey: it seams that im missing g++ what package do i need to get?06:51
pgraves__g++06:52
hawk_bill_k take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%2906:52
surgypgraves__: g++ is the name of the package?06:52
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pgraves__yup06:52
vidsI have problems with KDE... anybody can helpme?06:53
pgraves__dwidmann: Unless just doing it twice made it suddenly work, the only thing I did was change all the partitions to ext2 instead of ext3 and then reset the mount points (Remember the issue I was having was that it was saying it couldnt copy the kernel to the system)06:54
dwidmannpgraves__: Yeah, the installer is picky that way06:54
pgraves__You think it was teh ext3?06:54
dwidmannquite probably06:54
hawk_anyone know if k3b can burn mp4 and dix06:55
dwidmannI'm pretty sure the only partition that mattered was /boot though prgraves06:55
Voorhees86any one knows a lightweight java ide06:55
dwidmann*pgraves__06:55
dwidmannVoorhees86: vim?06:56
dwidmannj/k06:56
Voorhees86??06:56
pgraves__likely06:56
dwidmann!info vim | Voorhees8606:56
ubotuvoorhees86: vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 1420 kB06:56
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dwidmannage-old text editor ... with the appropriate scripts it could probably be made useful though. That's as lightweight as you get ..... I was trying to be funny, I think06:58
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jack_deltrinoHow can I rsync to an alternative port?06:58
jack_deltrinorsync -avze ssh --port=10000 .... doesn't seem to connect on port 1000006:58
surgyim trying to compile pand3d from source using the makepanda system and i recieved the following errors: http://www.pastebin.ca/419249 can someone shed some light on this for me please?06:59
Voorhees86i install the jdk1.6 but command javac dosent work06:59
dwidmannVoorhees86: you need to run sudo update-alternatives --config java07:00
dwidmannand for javac too07:00
dwidmannetc07:00
surgyanyone ?07:01
Voorhees86no alternative for javac07:02
sonoftheclayrwhy is that when i scroll up and down the edge of the touchpad in edgy using kde 3.5.6 as in the kubuntu repos does it scroll but not in feisty?07:02
dwidmannVoorhees86: where did you install from? If you download the .bin from sun.com you'll need to add the java bin directory to the path07:02
dwidmann** $PATH that is07:02
hawk_is avi mp4 formats supported by k3b and what do i have to do about get them07:02
Voorhees86no, i install from repository07:03
dwidmannhawk, I suppose it would likely depend on what the video/audio codecs used were07:03
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dwidmanntry it and see if it works?07:03
dwidmann and if it doesn't work ... try k3b 1.0, it's vastly improved07:03
hawk_did and it said no you only mp1 and mp2 supported but can i get mp407:04
dwidmannsurgy: looks liike greek to me o.O07:04
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dwidmannhawk: try version 1.0, if it doesn't support it you probably won't get support for it from k3b07:04
pope1I think Surgy left, dwid...07:04
pope1lol07:04
pollyo!kvm07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:05
dwidmannthinking is obviously not on my agenda today07:05
dwidmannneither is paying attention ^^;07:05
pope1It happens.07:05
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SilentDishello :)07:05
hawk_how do i update to k3b 1.007:05
dwidmannhawk_: manually ...07:05
hawk_ok thanks07:06
dwidmanndownload the source and compile it ..07:06
hawk_omg07:06
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pollyoI was able to install it though adept.  Perhaps that is because I am running feisty?07:06
jack_deltrinoAnyone?07:06
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pollyo(in reference to k3b)07:06
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dwidmannpollyo: which version do you have installed?07:07
SilentDisas I slowly switch from Gnome to KDE, I prefer to use 'kde specific apps', to get the 'full' experience.  what would everyone recommend for a good CD ripper?  I want to go from audio CD to MP3s via LAME.  I'm used to GRip, and will continue to use it, unless someone can suggest something more geared to KDE :)07:07
dwidmannahah07:07
bill__khawk_: tried replacing xorg.conf with a backup and it didn't work so i i finally just rm'ed /etc/X11/xorg.conf*.  killed x and it worked! (probably not a great solution, because then i'd be stuck fixing the whole thing cli, but I got lucky)07:07
dwidmannIt  must be a new one in there07:07
pollyodwidmann: I'm loading it now to recheck.  I thought it updated to 1.007:07
dwidmannIt has showed up within the last several days07:07
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bill__k!binarydrivers07:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:07
hawk_bill_k thats good07:07
bill__ksame link for kubuntu07:07
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dwidmannI finished my dist-upgrade monday or tuesday and k3b 1.0 wasn't in then07:08
comradewhere are the resolution settings in kubuntu07:08
hawk_bill_k will i tink i will keep that in mind the next time some one has the same problem07:08
pollyoI have k3b 1.007:08
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dwidmannAs for installing it on non-feisty though, i don't think it's possible, it just has too many updated dependencies to be feasable I'm sure07:08
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dwidmannpollyo, I know, I just haven't been keeping up with the updates since I dist-upgraded07:09
pollyoI am on feisty though... That could be why...07:09
pollyodwidmann: Oh..07:09
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pollyoanyone use qemu and kvm?07:10
SilentDiscan anyone recommend a good CD Ripping app for KDE?  (I'm using GRip, but am curious if there's any good KDE apps out there)07:10
dwidmannSilentDis: K3b is solid07:11
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dwidmannI'm fairly certain Konqueror, Kaffeine, and KAudioCreator share the same backend for doing their ripping, and they work okay also07:11
SilentDisdwidmann: kind of an 'all in one' deal, eh?  i'm still trying to find a package of 1.0 somewhere to install (edgy eft here still)07:11
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dwidmannSilentDis, if you're lucky you might get a backport, more likely though, you'll have to wait for feisty, or compile it yourself (not too hard really)07:12
SilentDisdwidmann: I was thinking of compiling it, or just grabbing the debian package... though feisty is less than 1 month away, I'll probably just wait :)07:13
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dwidmannI upgraded when Feisty hit beta .... I always wait for the beta ... saves me trouble, and trouble is bad when you don't have a whole lot of bandwidth07:14
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SilentDisdwidmann: yeah, not sure what I'm gonna do.  I'm stuck on dialup out here in the boonies :(.  probably order DVDs from amazon when they hit :P07:14
dwidmann"[01:14]  <-- Valkryja has left this server ("what type of FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT SOFTWARE requires you to RESTART YOUR MOTHER FUCKING COMPUTER TO DELETE A DAMN TEXT FILE")." Windows?07:14
mrignslol07:15
dwidmannSilentDis: I pay an arm and a leg for satellite, also a fair way out of town07:15
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SilentDisdwidmann: yeah, i looked over all the Sat providers, the caps they all put on there are REALLY a turn-off for me, I'd exceed them weekly, and I know it.  add in that I play WoW, and the 3000ms lag would NOT be acceptable lol07:16
matrixhi07:16
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comradewhere is the command to adjust your video settings in kde07:17
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pgraves__g2g .... going home ppls... THANKS Everyone (I may jump back in from home).... Extra Thanks to Dwiddma07:18
pgraves__dwidmann*07:18
pollyocomrade: K > System Settings > Monitor & Display07:18
dwidmannlater07:18
dwidmannand you're welcome07:19
dwidmannsilentdis: the caps are awful ..... and the lag is actually more like 1500ms ...07:19
comradepollyo: what is the command for it, it's not appearing on my menu07:19
pollyocomrade: I do not know.  I use the GUI07:20
SilentDisdwidmann: still, I'm actually effective with dialup, i usually hover around 350ms pings, only inital loads are 'rough', but once i'm in, I'm fine.07:20
dwidmannOh, and those caps, I think I exceed them daily, when kubuntu is nearing release time ...07:20
SilentDisdwidmann: lol i bet07:20
tmbgcomrade, systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m07:20
dwidmannI think I can do about 170mb, then I'm out-of-commission for about 12 hours, then I do it again, etc07:21
tmbgcomrade, seems to be at /usr/bin/systemsettings07:21
comradei just added kde to an xubuntu install, seems to be leaving out things like that in the menu07:21
comradethat doesnt exist as a command for me :/07:22
pollyoI hope kqemu speeds qemu up quite a bit.... I've been installing windows xp for an hour and it is still working on copying files.07:22
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SilentDisdwidmann: you know... it might actually be a GOOD idea to throttle your eth0 connection to only allow you to use it up after around 15 days.  i remember seeing an article about doing just that... let me poke a bit...07:22
pope1Who the hell would put their monitor orientation to "upsidedown", save as a joke one someone else's box?07:22
pope1o_O07:22
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SilentDispope1: because it's funny. lol07:23
dwidmannsilentdis, it's not like that actually, it's just a 170mb cap ... when I hit it it goes death slow for about 12 hours, then I can do it again. No monthly limit or the like.07:23
dwidmannpope1: that sounds like a pretty good joke to me, I think I might pull it on my brother07:24
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SilentDisdwidmann: ahhh.  whom is your provider?  maybe throttle to allow 170mb over a 4-hr period only?  i dunno07:24
unfohi all, can dh_make_perl automatically download the Perl module for Bundle::Perl::Critic and the entire tree of modules it depends on, then build .debs of them all, with one command?07:24
tmbgpope1, some sorts of lcd's and plasmas and whatnot are more conveniently mounted on walls upside-down07:24
dwidmannSilentdis, something like that, one of the many hughsnet/direcway resellers07:24
SilentDisdwidmann: ahh.  i was looking at WildBlue, they sent me PaperSpam recently :P07:25
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pollyoPerhap the option was made for monitors that are set in table tops so the display can be flipped much like table top arcade games that can have two players taking turns.07:26
pope1Or maybe for some programmer who liked the joke...07:26
dwidmannmmhmm, so you looked and said no, or a definite maybe at best I'm guessing ..... satellite providers are like thieves I swear07:26
pollyopope1: That may be how it was first made. <grin>07:26
pope1Whatever, I just saw it and was like...WTF?07:26
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pope1Not that it's very /good/, but it's free.07:28
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SilentDisdwidmann: yeah.  this is about the 'best' deal i've seen.  $200 in equipment, $60/month for their 'basic' package that, as I said, I would eat in about 3 days.  their best package would set me back $80/month, and I'd eat it in about a week and a half :P07:28
SilentDisdwidmann: what REALLY sucks, is there's only CMDA cell towers around here.  also, there IS a wifi broadband provider about 10mi away, and the tech they use can reach 15 mi... they just don't wanna stretch it beyond 5mi, so they won't sell to me :(07:30
pope1SilentDis: yeah, a friend of mine lives way out in the boonies of Maryland.  She told me she can get service at the end of her street, but not in her house.07:31
SilentDispope1: aak lol07:31
dwidmannsilentdis: I know the feeling, I'm 20,000 feet from the dsl place .... probably about 15 miles from the nearest wireless place. In other words, SOL but not by a lot07:31
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SilentDisdwidmann: lol i'm 11.9kft from the CO.  they have all the equip in place... but no data backhaul, only a line for phone service!  i hate verizon :P07:32
chemicalvamphehe im within 40 yards of a neighbors wireless router xD07:32
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pope1vamp: that's what my dad does, leeches off the neighbors...07:32
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chemicalvamppoorstrength, but still like 60kbps dl07:33
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SilentDischemicalvamp: that's better than 2.5k/sec! *pouts*07:33
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pollyoAny idea why I wouldn't be able to use kqemu?  Where would I find information on requirements for it?07:33
dwidmannSilentDis: ouch07:33
dwidmannnot even 4? ... blah07:34
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SilentDisdwidmann: my phonelines SUCK.  i have ultra high-end shielded solid copper wire coming from the box outside to a SINGLE phone jack that the modem connects to.  and that's still the best I can get.07:35
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dwidmannSilentDis: I think I was getting about the same on dialup really.07:36
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dwidmannperhaps less if that's even possible07:36
chemicalvamplol wow irc.ubuntu.com - lag: 192 s (back to 1snow07:36
SilentDisdwidmann: if there's a lot of wind, it gets worse.  I think my lines are up on poles out there somewhere :P07:37
harryI am using GNOME with Amarok. How do I keep it from popping up the blue box that tells you the current song every time a song ends?07:37
tmbglearn to love and enjoy the annoying blue box107:37
SilentDisharry: it's a setting.  let me open mine right quick to find it for ya :)07:38
dwidmannsilent, kind of like when it rains, I lose my connection ...07:38
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dwidmannor if there is a cloud in the sky ...07:38
SilentDisharry: Settings > Configure Amarok > OSD > Remove check for "Use On-Screen-Display"07:38
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harryOK. Thanks. Also, is there a way I can see the Help menu in GNOME?07:39
sonoftheclayrdoes anyone else have problems with amarok in feisty?07:39
SilentDisdwidmann: i'm curious if the xm/sirius merger will finally have them realize they can do single-directional broadband offerings (upload via dialup, download via sat).  they transmit their music at around 500kbps last I checked into it.07:40
DrOnlineI have a problem with amarok in feisty, arts isn't showing up =\07:40
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sonoftheclayrmine keeps locking up after i go to play an mp3 and mp3 support isn't installed (i could've sworn it was)07:41
SilentDisharry: that'll be a tough one.  I installed the full kubuntu-desktop package when I was using armarok under gnome, and it worked... but I assume it was because i had the other stuff too.  I'm not sure which package provides that, sorry :(07:41
harrysonoftheclayr: Yeah, I had problems [ wouldn't start]  , but I had some other problems with Feisty, so I reinstalled Edgy.07:41
harryOK. Is there an online manual?07:41
sonoftheclayrharry: lucky for me i upgraded a clean version of edgy so my main install is untouched07:42
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SilentDisharry: well, what specifically are you looking to do?  I've used it rather extensivly :)07:42
SilentDisharry: also, there SHOULD be a man page.  man armarok07:42
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SilentDisah well... i should head to bed.  gotta work in... 8 hours *cry*07:43
SilentDisg'night all07:44
dwidmannnight07:44
harrySilentDis: I don't really want to do anything in particular, i just want to RTFM. It saves lots of time.07:44
pope1Night Dis.07:44
xushiugh.. /me at work now =/07:44
xushiand i wish i was sleeping07:44
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SilentDisharry: I'm headed to bed... hit google and search for amarok, i'm rather sure they have a howto on their homepage at the least :)07:44
harryOK.07:44
xushior #amarok :)07:44
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dwidmannamarok.kde.org ?07:45
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carutsuwhat do i need to install in order to get K3B to burn mp3?07:49
sonoftheclayrcarutsu: can't you just burn it straight onto a data cd?07:50
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carutsusonofttheclayr it ask for it07:50
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carutsuit says: "K3b could not load or find the Mp3 decoder plugin. This means that you will not be able to create Audio CDs from Mp3 files."07:51
dwidmanncarutsu, probably libxine-extracodecs07:51
dwidmannwait07:51
dwidmannthat's for playback07:51
dwidmannone sec07:51
dwidmannmaybe libmad007:51
sonoftheclayrlibxine-ffmpeg?07:51
dwidmannyeah, there we go, I think k3b wants libmad007:51
sonoftheclayrdwidmann: next guess :)07:52
carutsunevermind  is: libk3b2-mp307:52
dwidmannhmm o.O so it may be07:52
dwidmannI just remember having to build k3b with libmad-dev07:52
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carutsuk3b 1.0 rocks07:53
sonoftheclayrthanks carutsu this will come in useful for me too :)07:53
carutsusonofttheclayr: glad to be usefull07:53
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sonoftheclayryou're right k3b 1.0 does rock! i've only used the one in edgy07:54
K`zanAnyone know why on Feisty that my USB device all seem to fail with an error -62 but seem to show up if I unplug and replug them?07:55
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carutsufor festy go to #ubuntu+107:56
K`zancarutsu: RR thanks.07:56
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carutsunp07:56
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carutsuhey! thunderbird has its icons back! i love the "real" logo07:56
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pollyoOk Qemu is moving along much better with kqemu working.08:16
pollyoI should have aborted the installation after the first 20 minutes when I saw it going so slow.08:17
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pollyoDo they have any distribution that will run on a machine with 64 Megs with any style of GUI?08:21
kristjanhi, can i do something about slowdowns on my computer? my laptop occasionaly almost freezes and i can't do anything, not even close applications when it's so slow08:21
brophatthe kubunut install cd, does it also dual as a live cd; the way ubuntu does it?08:21
pollyobrophat: I believe so.08:22
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brophatpollyo ok, so is that a high certainty?08:22
pope1It does, 100% certain.08:23
pollyobrophat: Yes.  I used it on another machine without installing it.08:23
brophatok thanks for the info08:23
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pollyoAnyone familiar with the text to voice system?08:24
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ElusiveCreaturehey there guys....is anybody willing to help me solve a desktop ubuntu problem?08:24
pollyo!festival08:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about festival - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:24
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ElusiveCreatureI\m having a problem with my mounted NTFS file systems....I can see and list their contents, but I can\t write to them because the owner of the filesystems is "root"08:26
xushimornin08:26
standahow to install new nvidia 9631 driver? - kubuntu always overwrite the kernel module with old 71308:26
pollyoElusiveCreature: Have you mounted NTFS with a read/write ability on?08:26
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standaTO ELUSIVE - edit fstab and add option users08:27
pollyoElusiveCreature: I believe I installed NTFS3g or something like that giving me the ability to write to NTFS08:27
ElusiveCreaturepollyo: I'm not sure....I'm a bit new to Linux08:27
pollyo!ntfs08:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:27
hakancengarkadalar merhaba trke bilen arkada varm08:27
standaanyone here with Echoaudio Gina20????08:28
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ElusiveCreatureoh okay....so this is a package of some sort, right?08:28
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pollyoElusiveCreatures: I installed the NTFS-3G using the package manager in kubuntu.08:29
pollyoElusiveCreatures: Then I found an Ubuntu website that discussed the setup in fstab.  Let me get my fstab setting for it.  Perhaps it will help you a bit.08:30
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ElusiveCreatureahh...brilliant....saves me having to build it!08:30
pollyoElusiveCreature: /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 008:32
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pollyoElusiveCreature: Ofcourse you will have to modify it a bit.08:32
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pollyoElusiveCreature: You may have to that is...08:32
stdinpollyo: don't you need the umask setting in there?08:33
ElusiveCreatureI think "defaults" sets the umask to 000008:34
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xushidoes kubuntu's forum support fall under ubuntu in lq.org ?08:35
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pollyostdin: I couldn't tell you.  I got the line from the website that discussed NTFS-3g itself.08:35
stdinxushi: no, lq is a different site, there are ubuntuforums.org and kubuntuforums.org08:36
pollyostdin: Seemed easy enough and worked (for me).08:36
xushita08:36
xushihmm, kubuntuforums.org looks fake08:36
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pollyoHow can I tell if compiz is working?08:37
pollyoI think it was called compiz.08:37
pollyo!compiz08:37
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:37
xushi!forum08:37
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org08:37
pollyoYes08:37
stdinxushi: huh, well there was a kubuntu one, seems it's no more08:38
ElusiveCreatureyou know the funny thing?  I only installed Ubuntu because I started trying to install linux on my PS3 so I could give cell coding a go08:38
xushii need to ask a long-ish question regarding kubuntu use in my company.. Should i ask it in ubuntuforums.org ?08:38
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pollyoElusiveCreature: Linux support on PS3 makes the system look like they really overrated it.  Especially since they lock out alot of the hardware.08:39
stdinxushi: you can ask on the forum, or on the mailinglist08:39
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ElusiveCreatureI know....but I can understand why they had to do it. I imagine nVidia would have a lot of problems with allowing publicaly available source for the drivers08:40
stdinxushi: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users (for the Kubuntu one)08:40
xushiugh, i **hate** mailing lists.. it's so unorganised and clutters my inbox08:41
Hobbseexushi: what's the question?08:41
xushiwell, i'll start here then,08:41
ElusiveCreaturebut you can write a fairly decent software renderer with a basic programmable pipeline if you use 2 or 3 SPU's08:41
pollyoElusiveCreature: I imagine the real cause was to keep people from purchasing it to actually use linux on it.  Seeing that Sony takes a big loss on each unit.  They need to sell software that they get licensing fees for to run on it.08:41
xushibasically good news. our company is convinced to switch all their desktop OS from windows to linux. Kubuntu was chosen for the desktop OS. I just need to make sure how to set it up as an office OS rather than a desktop OS. Mainly:08:41
xushiattach the 15 machines to a domain. Allow for the user's accounts to be created and managed from ONE server instead of on the individual machines08:42
ElusiveCreatureI dunno...with only 256 MB of RAM, it's not an attractive linux box08:42
pollyoElusiveCreature: That is what I have on here. <grin>08:43
xushithese user accoutns are limited (not root), and user X can login with her account from any computer, not just one. (as long as she's not logged in another place)08:43
xushietc.08:43
pollyoElusiveCreature: The PS3 even has a faster CPU then my machine. <grin>08:43
wolferinexushi, this isnt windows anymore08:43
wolferine:)08:43
ElusiveCreatureheh....define "faster"08:44
xushiwolferine: i've heard i could do the above witn samba. And anyway, like i said, we're looking for a windows alternative08:44
pollyoElusiveCreature: Good question.  I do not even recall what I have on this machine.  I know it is a P308:44
ElusiveCreatureso I have to restart after installing ntfs-3g?08:44
xushiand such features are a must. I'm assuming linux, a network-os (compared to windows since its early stages) can do all of this.08:44
pollyoElusiveCreature: I do not recall having to restart.08:45
wolferinexushi like I said, your thinking inside a windows box08:45
pollyoElusiveCreature: Did you make the changes to your fstab?08:45
wolferinejust a matter of how much you really want to learn08:45
stdinxushi: I know there are ways of doing that, but I don't know enough about how to do it (because I've never had to), but you'll get more responce on the forums and (especially) the mailing list08:45
xushiwolferine: help me to think inside a linux box then. All this crap is new to me.. I'm a linux user for over 8 years. This company comes to me and wants this X Y and Z. I have to figure out something like it or an alternative08:46
ElusiveCreatureyeah, I changed the fs type and re-mounted the filesystem as root08:46
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xushiI'll try the mailing list then08:46
wolferinethe forums will let you know more specifically what you can do08:46
stdinxushi: you can also try asking on the main ubuntu-users mailinglist too, as the setup should be the same for both08:47
wolferineand there are lots of guides, just google around a bit, im sure you will find any answers you have08:47
ElusiveCreaturethe line I changed looks like this08:47
ElusiveCreature/dev/sdb1/media/datantfs-3g ro,nls=utf8,umask=0000 0 008:47
stdinElusiveCreature: you don't want the "ro", do you?08:48
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ElusiveCreatureoh...wait... ro = read-only, right?08:48
stdinyeah08:48
stdinrw = read-write08:49
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stdinand add "auto" to have it automounted at boot08:49
Absortohello! I've setup a custom kernel in grub. I want this kernel to load init 3, so I appended a "3" to my kernel line. But ubuntu boots to init 2 all the same. Help!08:50
ElusiveCreaturehmm....still can't write to the drive08:50
pollyoElusiveCreature: Do you only want root to write to it?08:51
philfook, I've got another problem.  this one I created.  I was in system settings, in the disk & filesystems category & trying to get my other hd's to mount on startup. now all I have is a "lost & found" file in /media that I don't have permission to access.08:51
philfosome help would be great.08:51
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hawk_!diskmount08:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about diskmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:52
hawk_!diskmounter08:52
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse08:52
stdinphilfo: you seem to have mounted a ext2/3 fs over /media  (i.e., not in a directory UNDER /media)08:52
philfowhoops.08:52
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philfohow do I undo this?08:52
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stdinphilfo: sudo umount /media08:52
ElusiveCreaturepollyo: no...I want to be able to write to it too....08:53
ElusiveCreatureI have a lot of data that I'd like to be able to modify08:53
stdinElusiveCreature: what are the permissions on /media/data ? (run ls -l /media/data)08:53
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philfocr*p, command not found08:54
ElusiveCreaturethe data permissions are drwxrwxrwx08:54
hawk_philof try pmount08:54
ElusiveCreaturebut it says the owner is root08:54
philfoyowza.08:54
philfonow where?08:55
rickydoes anyone know the package's name that make a nice transparent toolbar with icons?08:55
philfoit's in the system settings utility08:55
stdinElusiveCreature: it's ok for it to be owned by root, as long as it is writable to all08:55
ElusiveCreatureok08:55
pollyoElusiveCreature: Mine is also Owned and Grouped to Root08:55
stdinElusiveCreature: what error do you get while trying to write to it?08:56
ElusiveCreatureoh...here's something interesting...08:56
pollyoElusiveCreature: I do have Create and Delete files access though.08:56
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ElusiveCreatureI can make a dir at the terminal, but I can't make a dir in the gnome file manager08:56
philfohawk_: now what am I doing with this?08:56
stdinElusiveCreature: eww, gnome :P what's the error it gives ?08:57
pollyoElusiveCreature: Let me try it in gnome.  I just installed gnome the other day and I'm playing in it now.08:57
hawk_did it umount media08:57
ElusiveCreatureit doesn't give an error....it just blanks out the Create Folder menu option08:57
philfopmount was just a manual it looked like08:57
rickydoes anyone know the package's name that make a nice transparent menu with icons in the desktop?08:57
philfodidn't unmount anything08:57
pollyoElusiveCreature: Hmmm...08:57
stdinElusiveCreature: I'd say try logging out and back in, sometimes the GUI apps need to reload the permissions settings to work08:58
hawk_!berly08:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:58
hawk_!beryl08:58
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:58
hawk_pmount media/ type this in08:58
pollyo!compiz08:58
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:58
ElusiveCreatureand hey....this is the first time I've used a *nix environment for 10 years....you'll have to excuse me if I stick with the default gui ;)08:58
hawk_lol i realy dont think it is worth the work to get a gui better the kde a flux working on my box lol08:59
pollyoElusiveCreature: Did you install Ubuntu or Kubuntu?08:59
philfohawk_:09:00
philfomount: /dev/hda3 already mounted or /media busy09:00
philfomount: according to mtab, /dev/hda3 is already mounted on /media09:00
ElusiveCreatureoh...ubuntu desktop09:00
ElusiveCreatureumm...wrong channel :p09:00
hawk_ok type in umount media/09:01
stdinphilfo: sudo umount /dev/hda3 (make sure you type 'umount' not 'unmount')09:01
hawk_thank you stdin09:01
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ElusiveCreaturegoing to log out to see if gnome will let me write to the drive09:01
hawk_stdin wouldnt umount media do the same thing09:02
philfolets hope because I already did it09:02
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philfonow I mount media again, correct?09:02
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stdinhawk_: yeah, but just in case more than 1 thing is mounted on /media, specifying the device may be better09:03
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philfostdin: I owe you.  thanks.09:03
hawk_stdin ok that sounds right09:03
stdinphilfo: change where hda3 gets mounted first, so it's not on /media, but somewhere in /media09:03
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philfoI'm still trying to get used to this file system.09:03
hawk_philfo this is as far as i can go i dont know anymore then that09:04
philfomake another folder in media for hda3?09:04
stdinphilfo: yeah09:04
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philfoany particular name?09:04
hawk_no09:04
stdinphilfo: anything you want to call it is fine09:04
hawk_stdin how long have you been using linux for09:05
stdinhawk_: about 11 years now09:05
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stdinhawk_: since I was 10 :P09:05
hawk_stdin wow that cool09:05
ElusiveCreatureright.....I can write to the fs now...09:05
hawk_stdin so that means you where using slakware when it was new lol09:06
ElusiveCreaturethanks for the help guys09:06
ElusiveCreatureI spent an AGE last night cratching me head over this09:06
ElusiveCreature* scratching09:06
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hawk_stdin cant philfo use diskmounter know and it will mount everything for him09:07
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hawk_lElusiveCreatur: we all do it from time to time09:07
philfoI have two directories I want to mount in /media.  just create two separate folders, one for each?09:08
stdinhawk_: he still needs to know the right settings for it09:08
stdinphilfo: yeah09:08
philfook cool.09:08
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stdinphilfo: for each thing you want to mount, just have a different directory for each09:08
hawk_ElusiveCreature:  we all need help from time to time09:08
philfoI don't want to use a GUI when I can LEARN how to do it with commands.09:08
philfoI was way too spoiled by Windoze and I'm paying for it now, but it's getting slowly better.09:09
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hawk_philfo: that is very true09:09
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stdinphilfo: once you get used to it, the command line is so much faster, and more powerful than any GUI tool09:09
philfoI just learned a valuable lesson.09:09
hawk_philfo: hey would you like a pdf on some linux basics09:10
philfoI like using command lines, I just need to learn them.09:10
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ElusiveCreatureright....now I can install linux on my ps3.....but first. I've been told I have to go to the bakery09:10
bill__khawk_: i'll take a pdf09:11
hawk_philfo: it is an old slakware book but it covers all the basic bash functions09:11
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bill__keasier than carrying around a dead tree09:11
philfosure.  I was thinking about getting linux for dummies, but was sure that there must be something out on the intarweb09:11
bill__kstdin: same09:11
bill__kon each computer09:11
philfonow what is this "bash"?09:11
stdin!bash09:11
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands09:11
bill__kborn again shell09:11
hawk_ok i will get the link up09:11
philfoI'm learning to keep a terminal open all the time09:11
hawk_it is the command line you are useing09:12
philfodoes bash stand for anything?  acronym?09:12
bill__kborn again shell09:12
bill__kb a sh09:12
philfothanks09:12
bill__ksure09:12
stdinphilfo: in windoes there is only 1 shell, the DOS shell, in linux there are many. eash specialise in different things. Bash is the most popular and (imo) the easiest to use09:12
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philfocool, cool09:13
Betzeferany 1 needs help ?09:13
bill__kanyone know how to make my usb optical mouse go slower than the lowest setting systemsettings allows?09:13
philfofloat test the mouse.09:13
hawk_i do but you but it is all mentall09:13
bill__k?09:14
crazyrobotthe fish shell is nice.  but very, very, very slow.09:14
philfosorry, it's an old saying we used in the Navy when we wanted something to conform to specs it wasn't made for09:14
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philfowe'd "float test" it & then one with correct spec magically showed up.09:15
ElusiveCreatureas in "we commit this thing to the sea"09:15
bill__khah09:15
philfoyes.09:15
philfoand it's wonderful taking out some agression that way.09:15
bill__klol09:16
bill__kso, how do I slow down my mouse?09:16
philfois it optical?09:16
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pollyoBBL09:17
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philfook, I'm getting a bit frustrated with Wine.09:18
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hawk_ftp://ftp.slackbook.org/pub/slackbook/slackbook-2.0.pdf09:18
bill__kphilfo: yes it is09:18
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bill__kit's a razer diamondback09:18
hawk_there you all go it is a great book it is about slakware but all the same stuff for most linux09:18
philfoI try to open it, then about 30 seconds later, it just closes09:18
bill__khawk_: thanks09:18
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philfothanks hawk09:19
hawk_bill__k: np09:19
crazyrobotdoes anyone know where the "console" options are?  F1-F6 console?09:19
hawk_philfo:np09:19
hawk_whats the internet for information09:19
bob__anyone get this apt error? "Unable to parse package file"09:19
bill__kwhat package file?09:20
bob__archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages09:20
hawk_digital infomation= no hiding things09:20
philfoso, is this problem with Wine a setting or is it buggy?09:20
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bob__get 926 of em when I 'aptitude upgrade'09:20
hawk_whats going on with wine09:20
bob__not using it09:21
bob__it might be installed09:21
hakancengarkadalar herkes yabanc dildemi konuuyor burda trke kullanc yokmu kubuntu yu kullanan  yardmc olacak sanrm buras yardmlama sitesi deil09:21
bob__nope no wine installed09:21
philfoI try to open it, the pointer thingy bounces for a while then it just closes09:21
hawk_anyone know anything about vmware workstation09:21
sonoftheclayris it possible to use different windows instead of tabs in konversation?09:22
cs178_hawk_: besides how to use it, no09:22
hawk_dam09:23
cs178_got a problem with it?09:23
hawk_it crashed on me for some resion today and now it wont load09:23
stdin!tr | hakanceng09:23
ubotuhakanceng: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.09:23
stdinhawk_: try running it from the command line to see what errors come up09:24
hawk_i was installing windows and it was trying to find drivers for the video card09:24
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cs178_hawk_: or maybe a problem with a virtual pc inside that loads automatically09:25
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bill__ki'm having a hard time finding info on how to slow down my usb razer diamondback mouse.  all the sliders are left (in keyboard & mouse prefs)09:25
hawk_i cant run anything right now i am encodeing a dvd so if my pc crash i will lose all of my work09:25
philfoI typed in wine in konsole & just got a 3 line list09:26
hawk_have you configered wine yet09:26
philfono09:26
philfohow too that?09:26
hawk_type in winecfg09:26
philfohow to DO that, sorry09:26
philfothanks again09:26
hawk_i am a big wine fan did lots of testing with it09:27
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hawk_and windows virus09:27
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philfo"warning 3d driver claims to not suppost visual 0x4b"09:27
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philfosupport, still can't spell tonight09:28
hawk_philfo np09:28
philfoanything up with that warning that keeps coming up?09:28
philfoI think I'm going to buy a new graphics card.  this ATI has been nothing but a headache for 5 days09:29
hawk_what is the graphics card09:29
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sinkorswimI switched from gnome to kde by installing the kubuntu-desktop package but now it's taking > 30 secs for my browser to resolve hostnames09:29
hawk_and did you type in winecfg by it self09:29
philfowhat is the best or most stable version of vindoze for wine to emulate?09:29
philfoyes I did09:29
sinkorswimit was the same connecting to freenode, it took much longer than usual09:30
stdinphilfo: probably 2000 (or 98)09:30
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philfo2000 is the default, I'll just use that one.09:30
hawk_it will not run in wine09:31
stdinsinkorswim: try disabling IPv609:31
stdin!ipv609:31
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv409:31
hawk_sorry wrong thing09:31
philfoi'm setting it up to calibrate my monitor color profile.  I'd assume that I have to tell my profiler that I'm using win2000 as well then?09:31
botti need help locating a flash player for kubuntu 6.10 (fully upgraded) amd64 arch09:31
hawk_i would say xp is the best becouse every thing know days runs in xp09:31
hawk_and there are more dlls and emultion of xp the 2000 becouse xp is more populer09:32
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philfogotcha. so perhaps xp is better?09:32
hawk_lol09:32
philfoha ha ha ha09:33
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philfoI can throw my HD out the window & wine would be emulating Vista then.09:33
Chemicalvampi still cannot BELIEVE http://www.google.com/tisp/install.html is REAL...09:34
hawk_oh yes, be carefull of what you run in wine i did a paper few months ago on virus affection linux through wine and i did some testing and the out come is not good09:34
hawk_wow thats funny is a hack09:36
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Chemicalvampclick the link to soo how google can tun your crapper into free internet09:36
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Chemicalvampanybody know of a place to find a flash player for kubuntu 6.10 (upgraded) with amd64 arch??09:37
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hawk_!flashpayer09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashpayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
hawk_!flashplayer09:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:38
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philfowine is STILL closing itself after a long period of not starting.09:38
philfothis is not cool09:38
hawk_no things not work are hardly cool09:39
hawk_lol09:39
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philfois there some other thing I'm missing?09:40
stdinChemicalvamp: flash doesn't work on amd64 (blame adobe), but you can follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava09:40
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philfoit's just sitting for a bit then closing.09:40
philfohow do I run wine with a command line?09:40
hawk_see if your problem matches any of these have fun http://bugs.winehq.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Bug+Number09:41
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stdinphilfo: what do you mean?09:41
philfowhen I type in "wine" in konsole, i get a little menu of stuff, no opening app09:42
hawk_nvm, what are you trying to run09:42
stdinphilfo: you start an app wilth "wine app.exe"09:43
hawk_ok go into a directory where there is a windows exe and type in wine app.exe09:43
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hawk_thank you stdin09:43
philfoah, so I have to have the application already installed...09:43
hawk_yes09:43
philfowell maybe I should have read instructions.09:44
stdinphilfo: or "wine C:\\Program\ Files\\My\ App\\app.exe"09:44
ledementeAnyone know a MySpace channel?09:44
philfo*sheepish*09:44
philfogotcha.09:44
Chemicalvampok i found the flash player stuff on adept in multiverse.. but if i request install, it says (break) install... any ideas?09:44
stdinphilfo: or "wine "C:\Program File\App\app.exe" ":p09:44
hawk_stdin: once agin you beat me to the chase09:44
philfoI thought we opened inside wine.09:44
philfothanks, thanks.  this has been the most educational linux chat so far for me.09:45
stdinphilfo: you can use "winebrowser", which is like windows "explorer"09:45
hawk_philfo i think thats how it use to be but not anymore09:45
philfoI screwed some stuff up, then I fixed it.  and I learned WHY09:45
philfowell, it's almost 4am so i'm off to bed.09:45
hawk_lol09:45
philfomore wine tomorrow09:46
hawk_philfo nice meeting you bye09:46
philfothanks all.09:46
Chemicalvampi heard wine blows, and virtualbox is way better09:46
hawk_they are two diffrent things09:46
philfoI don't care as long as I get my monitor calibrated.09:46
stdinChemicalvamp: Wine Is Not an Emulator (WINE)09:46
Chemicalvampi dk the differnce im a noob, whats (break) install mean in adept09:46
hawk_it means that the file is not working right now on the server09:47
Chemicalvampno (flash player) like gnash klash will instal normaly.. what to do09:48
hawk_Chemicalvamp: VB you have to install windows and run windows total seppret from linux but with wine adds a lay of emulation to linux so that program can run in linux09:48
Chemicalvampand thas what !flashplayer says09:48
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Chemicalvamphawk: ok i see09:49
hawk_http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOX09:49
hawk_there is flash downlaod it and install it by hand09:49
Chemicalvampworks on amd64?09:49
hawk_i dont know09:49
hawk_stdin dos flashwork on amd6409:50
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stdinhawk_: short answer is no09:50
hawk_Chemicalvamp: nop it dos not work09:50
stdinhawk_: you can do it, but you need to install the 32bit version of firefox09:50
stdinChemicalvamp: ^^09:50
stdinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava09:51
Chemicalvampok english and links? hehe09:51
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stdinlink is there ^09:51
Chemicalvampschweet09:51
hawk_stdin:thanks i had no idea09:51
hawk_stdin: so what you do when your not helping noobs like me09:52
stdinthere really is no point for a desktop user to install the 64bit version of Linux09:52
stdinhawk_: work my backside off :p09:52
hawk_lol09:52
hawk_encoding takes so long09:53
Chemicalvampis http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13334/ a problem?09:54
Chemicalvamp<-- amd64 laptop09:54
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hawk_i dont know this one09:55
Chemicalvamp*cries09:55
hawk_ask stdin09:55
hawk_stdin: help09:56
Chemicalvampstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13334/ is this gonna work?09:56
stdinChemicalvamp: just leave out the ia32-libs-gtk package, seems that ia32-libs replaces it now09:56
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Chemicalvampcool09:56
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hawk_dos photoshop run in linux yet09:57
stdinhawk_: no09:57
hawk_how about wine09:57
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stdinhawk_: maybe*09:57
hawk_nvm i will loke it up09:57
stdinhawk_: never tried, I just use the gimp09:57
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hawk_is gimp as good as photoshop09:58
stdinhawk_: no, not quite, but it has most of the features of it. just not some of the more advanced ones09:59
hawk_cool ok09:59
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hawk_got to love TrueCrypt10:02
doublesalut ya des francais ?10:02
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stdin!fr | double10:03
ubotudouble: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:03
doubleoki thx :)10:03
doublebye bye :)10:03
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hawk_dos shockwave work in linux yet10:04
stdinhawk_: nope, adobe won't release it for linux10:05
hawk_dam10:05
hawk_did you here about adobes apolo program10:06
stdinhuh? no10:06
hawk_well it is a cross platform framwork for the internet10:07
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hawk_like jave but internet based10:07
DankerOn which day new ubuntu will be released?10:08
stdin!fesity10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
stdin!feisty10:08
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) - Feisty will be released at 0:00 UTC on April, 110:08
hawk_java10:08
stdinhelps if you spell it10:08
hawk_lol10:08
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hawk_so do you have feisty running10:09
stdinyeah, have since work started on ti10:10
stdin*it10:10
hawk_do you like it10:10
stdinyeah, there has been some progress :)10:10
stdinseems faster too10:10
hawk_cool10:10
Martin_hi, can somebody help? Seven11 is d-lined and he don't know why. Any chance to get him in again?10:10
hawk_i cant wait for kde 410:11
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stdinhawk_: it's going to be a while for that, but yeah, me either :P10:11
stdinMartin_: ask in #ubuntu-ops10:11
hawk_so have the solved the problem with beryl and NV drivers10:12
Martin_thanks10:12
tmbgsigh. I am RUINED. I got even youtube flash movies working :(10:12
stdinhawk_: what problem is that?10:13
tmbgnow I'm doomed to waste tons of time. this link was what did it for me. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava10:13
hawk_the border where missing on all the windows10:13
stdintmbg: you need flash 9 for youtube10:13
stdinhawk_: that with "nv" or "nvidia" driver?10:14
tmbgyes. I have the 32 bit firefox with a 32 bit flash9 plugin (the proprietary one) on a 64 bit machine.10:14
hawk_stdin: yes10:14
stdinhawk_: no :p which one10:14
hawk_nvidia10:14
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stdinhawk_: well the nvidia driver in feisty is version 9755, and that one has aiglx built in, so it should work better10:15
hawk_stdin the last time i tryed using beryl i lost all my borders for my windows and could not do any thing10:15
stdinhawk_: sounds like beryl didn't start then10:16
Chemicalvamphow do i install a tar.gz10:16
CarinArranyone using beryl in feisty around?10:16
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stdin!tar.gz | Chemicalvamp10:17
ubotuChemicalvamp: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression10:17
stdinCarinArr: better place to ask in #ubuntu+1 the feisty support channel10:17
Chemicalvampi have it extracted, how do install it?10:17
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hawk_is there a .pl file in there10:18
stdinChemicalvamp: depends what it is, it's like asking "how do I install a .zip file" in windows10:18
CarinArrstdin: i already did, without much result, so thought i'd ask here as i know some people around here are also using feisty10:18
Chemicalvamppango-1.16.1.tar.gz extracted to pango-1.16.1, how would i install it from there10:19
stdinCarinArr: I haven't tried beryl in a while, last time I did was during the Xorg upgrade to v7.2 and it wasn't nice :P but it's supposed to work now10:19
stdinChemicalvamp: why are you trying to install that??10:19
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CarinArrit worked fantastically til two days ago, with the new kde updates and stuff it now crashes x10:19
CarinArr;)10:20
Chemicalvamphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava10:20
Chemicalvampi dont know what i am doing >.<10:20
Chemicalvamptrying to follow a how-to10:20
CarinArrChemicalvamp: there'll probably be a readme or install file in that archive that you unzipped10:20
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stdinChemicalvamp: and where on that page does it say to download the pango source ?10:21
ChemicalvampNext we must setup some minor font details for the environment. Create the environment variable file for pango32 and open it for editing:10:22
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stdinChemicalvamp: yes, I see that, but I don't see the part "now we must download and compile pango source"10:22
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noob:)10:23
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noobthat answer that one?10:23
stdinwhere it says: "gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc" just do "kdesu kate /etc/pango32/pangorc"10:24
stdinand I'll edit that guide to say that10:24
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slipknotIDENTIFY bonny110:25
stdinslipknot: new password time :P10:25
chemicalvamplol10:26
chemicalvampok soo it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13336/ a whole bunch of times10:26
stdinchemicalvamp: that's nothing to worry about, ignore it10:27
slipknot?10:28
chemicalvampbonny1 thats what hehe10:28
stdin[09:25]  <slipknot> IDENTIFY bonny110:28
slipknotlol i'm new10:29
chemicalvampok so do that, and paste the script, and continue the how-to?10:29
chemicalvampu need to do /msh nickserver identify10:29
chemicalvamp./msg even!10:29
slipknoti have 1 problem i cant register in #ubuntu-it10:29
stdinchemicalvamp: reload the page, I added the Kubuntu commands10:31
slipknotPlease register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel10:31
chemicalvampu da man10:31
slipknoti can't register in that server10:31
stdinslipknot: you type "/msg nickserv IDENTIFY (Your Password)"10:32
slipknoti have type more and more this command...10:32
stdinslipknot: if you don't have a pasword setup, then register with freenode10:32
stdin!register10:32
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration10:32
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chemicalvampstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13337/10:34
stdinchemicalvamp: did you use kdesu ?10:34
chemicalvampyeah i copy and pasted it10:34
stdinchemicalvamp: hmm, try again, it should work10:35
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chemicalvampsame10:36
stdinchemicalvamp: try doing this first "sudo mkdir -p /etc/pango32/"10:37
chemicalvampworked :)10:39
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chemicalvampkdesu kate /usr/local/bin/firefox32 & (did not open kate..10:40
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chemicalvampsoo close to done.. hmm10:41
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stdinchemicalvamp: is kate still open?10:42
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chemicalvampno10:43
chemicalvampif it is, i dont see it10:43
stdinchemicalvamp: try "sudo killall kate" then try "kdesu kate /usr/local/bin/firefox32 &" again10:43
chemicalvampkate: no process killed10:44
chemicalvampBUT it did work10:44
chemicalvampspoke too soon i guess hehe10:44
stdinchemicalvamp: do you have universe enabled ?10:45
chemicalvampyes10:45
stdinchemicalvamp: ia32-libs-gtk should be in there10:45
chemicalvampit is required?10:45
stdinchemicalvamp: I think it is for pango10:46
chemicalvampwill i need it for this?10:46
stdinyeah, firefox needs pango10:46
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chemicalvamp>.< havent installed firefox yet lol10:47
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chemicalvampso i extracted the tar to folder, what command do i run on it?10:48
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chemicalvampor firefox.bin?10:49
stdinno, firefox is installed, you don't need to run an installer or anything10:50
chemicalvampdont see it in my internet folder10:50
stdinchemicalvamp: doesn't matter, you can add that later10:51
chemicalvampk10:51
chemicalvampso just firefox32 &?10:51
stdinchemicalvamp: yeah, but you need ia32-libs-gtk apparently10:52
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chemicalvampdl it already 75%10:52
stdinchemicalvamp: so it's installing ?10:52
chemicalvampyup10:52
stdinjust wait for that the10:52
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chemicalvampdone10:53
chemicalvamphow do i make a shortcut of firefox32 & and do i need the firefox.tar or extracted foler anymore?10:54
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stdinchemicalvamp: you don't need that tar file anymore, and to make a link to it, just right click the KMenu and choose Menu Editor, you can then put a shortcut in internet10:55
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chemicalvampstdin: your forgettin im a newbie, how would i do that.. im in menu editor internet folder10:58
chemicalvampnvm10:58
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chemicalvampi think i understand10:59
stdinchemicalvamp: file -> New item10:59
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chemicalvampwork path necissary?11:00
stdinchemicalvamp: no11:00
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chemicalvamptested it and the flash movie has an icon and says to click it to download plugin11:02
stdinchemicalvamp: did you do Step 3 yet?11:03
chemicalvampack i forgot that11:03
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chemicalvampstdin: sparc or x86?11:05
stdinchemicalvamp: x8611:05
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Goliath23hi11:08
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stdin!hi11:08
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:08
Goliath23it seems my dnsmasq is broken. since the last upgraded packages in feisty11:08
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stdinGoliath23: for feisty support/questions use #ubuntu+111:09
Goliath23I used wireshark to see if the pc receives a dhcp request (and it does on eth2, which is configured to be an interface dnsmasq listens on)11:09
Goliath23oh, okay11:09
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jaygreetings11:13
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senwei_does anyone know the apt-get problem?11:13
stdinwhat apt-get problem?11:13
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sinkorswimdoes anyone know how I can get back the "save view settings per forlder" option under Settings in konqueror?11:17
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chemicalvampstdin: i have the jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin but chmod +x jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin says chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory11:18
dennis_senwei_ apt-get instead of aptitude?11:18
stdinchemicalvamp: where did you download it to?11:19
chemicalvampedsktop11:19
chemicalvampcant open terminalon it11:20
stdinchemicalvamp: then " chmod +x Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin"11:20
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senwei_dennis_   like this:Dynamic MMap ran out of room11:20
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dennis_senwei_ never heard of it sry11:21
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chemicalvampgreat, man eula's are kind of painfull in terminal11:22
stdinsenwei_: wild guess, make sure you haven't run out of disk space11:22
stdinchemicalvamp: use the space bar to skip a page at a time11:22
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senwei_stdinof course,it isn't  the problem11:23
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chemicalvampsudo mv ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10 /usr/local/java32 says mv: cannot stat `/home/bott/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10': No such file or directory11:24
bill__kstdin: cpp programmer?11:24
stdinbill__k: heh, I'm only just learning python so, no :p11:24
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enryhi11:24
sonoftheclayrhey enry11:25
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stdinchemicalvamp: use the right filename "jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin" and I'll fix the guide (again)11:25
chemicalvampglad im helping you help others xD11:26
manu_i've here an aiptek webcam, i have seen in the net that it should work with spca5xx well, and that this driver is allready in edgy included, now my question is how to "enable" the cam and see a image, lsusb shows the camera11:26
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PLCHi'11:26
stdinchemicalvamp: what does "ls /home/bott/Desktop/jre*" show?11:26
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tarelerulzhow do you mount iso?11:28
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stdin!iso | tarelerulz11:28
ubotutarelerulz: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.11:28
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tarelerulzI was downloading movie that is why I asked11:28
tarelerulzit is in iso format so I wanted to mount is and watch the movie11:29
chemicalvampstdin: ls: /home/bott/Desktop/jre*: No such file or directory11:29
PLCI'm french , i try to write ....11:30
PLC:p11:30
stdin!fr11:30
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:30
stdinchemicalvamp: did you run the "~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin" command ?11:30
PLCthanks :)11:31
chemicalvampstdin: no, i didnt see it needed to be done11:31
stdinchemicalvamp: well that's what was wrong then :p11:31
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chemicalvampchanging guide again?11:32
stdinyep :P11:32
chemicalvampwell i think it will be perfect after all this xD11:32
tarelerulzdon't you need mount point for the iso11:33
chemicalvampstdin: usr/local/firefox32/plugins/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin ?11:33
chemicalvampor is it too late?11:34
adydasyou know when u insert a digital camera, and it asks what to do and you select open in new window and tick dont ask me this again, how do you change what you selected aka get it to ask you again...11:34
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stdintarelerulz: "sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> " <-- see the "<mountpouint>" ?11:34
tarelerulzsorry11:35
chemicalvamperr i mean /usr/local/java32/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin11:35
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stdinchemicalvamp: ahh, move it back :P "sudo mv /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin ~/Desktop"11:35
adydasanyone?11:36
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chemicalvampsudo mv /usr/local/java32/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin ~/Desktop11:37
carl_hi11:37
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chemicalvampwell that didnt work either11:37
lonelywhoa11:38
stdinchemicalvamp: huh, what does "ls  /usr/local/java32/" show?11:39
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chemicalvampls: /usr/local/java32/: Not a directory11:39
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leiarI can't get recording audio to work not in audacity nor in xvidcap. Anybody?11:40
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carl_I tried to connect my Samsung z400 to kubuntu, using usb cable. My sister's Sony Ericsson K610i instantly came up as a usb flash-device, but my phone does not. The drivers that start are "drivers/usb/serial/visor.c: USB HandSpring Visor / Palm OS driver", but I cannot find my phone anywhere11:41
carl_any ideas?11:41
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chemicalvamp"ls /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/" shows libflashplayer.so  libjavaplugin_oji.so  libnullplugin.so11:42
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stdinchemicalvamp: where did you move jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin to?11:42
dbglthey guys, I'm trying to setup my laptop with an external monitor: I want the external monitor to activate when it is plugged into the laptop (and the laptop screen to turn off an external monitor is plugged in), and vice versa11:43
dbgltany idea how to do this?11:43
dbglt(automatically change screens and screen resolution)11:43
leiarany experts on audio in kubuntu, I'm not able to record my voice11:43
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chemicalvampstdin: wait i did chmod +x jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin then ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin then sudo mv ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin /usr/local/java3211:44
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stdinchemicalvamp: ahh, try "sudo mv /usr/local/java32 ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin"11:45
chemicalvampthere we go11:46
chemicalvampnow ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin ?11:46
stdinyep11:47
hansenhi. how mature is compiz etc. supposed to be by now (edgy) ?11:47
chemicalvamphey wait i did do this didnt i? i remember already doing this eual11:47
hansenI run compiz + kde-window-decorator and I do get wobbly transparent windows and all, but it doesn't seem to be totally stable11:47
chemicalvampeula*11:47
tarelerulz Well mounting the iso of movie is easy find out what audio tracks are english haha11:47
stdinhansen: not very, it's still quite new and it all depends on your hardware and package versions11:48
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stdinchemicalvamp: when it's done, you should have a new folder on the desktop11:48
chemicalvampreplace jre1.5.0_10/bin/java? [y] es, [n] o, [A] ll, [N] one, [r] ename:11:48
hansenit locked up on me a few times, and for some reason the connect dialog in konversation is totally dead with compiz -- other apps seem to work OK11:48
stdinchemicalvamp: try A11:49
chemicalvampdone11:49
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hansendist is edgy/amd64 and gfx is nvidia quadro fx 350011:49
hansenmoving windows around etc. is very snappy, but performance when resizing windows is bad11:50
hansenwith newest nvidia drivers of course11:50
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hugetahow to intall dual boot in one hardddisk11:53
hugetai have already ubuntu system on my notebook11:53
chemicalvampstdin: no folder, all i have is jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin and RealPlayer10GOLD.bin (was continuing the guide)11:54
stdinchemicalvamp: do: find ~ -type d -iname "jre*"11:54
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tarelerulzI understand how you mount iso so you can look in it ,but How would you mount is so your system see it as dvd or cd ?11:56
chemicalvampstdin: i just got a >11:56
stdinchemicalvamp: make sure you put both the quotes in, press Ctrl-C to get back to the prompt11:57
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stdintarelerulz: I'd use VLC to just read the iso file directly and play it11:58
stdin!vlc11:58
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs11:58
stdin!info vlc11:58
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB11:58
chemicalvampstdin: /home/bott/jre1.5.0_1011:58
stdinchemicalvamp: hmm, ok. well then replace "~/Desktop/jre1.5.0_10" with "~/jre1.5.0_10"11:58
tarelerulzthanks stdin11:58
chemicalvamphow do i kill kaffeine? i put in an audio cd and its not workin11:59
hnsnstdin: hi11:59
stdinchemicalvamp: you can press Ctrl-Alt-Esc and click on the window11:59
stdinhnsn: hi11:59
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chemicalvampthere is no window12:00
stdinchemicalvamp: ok then, "killall kaffeine" in konsole12:01
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chemicalvampstdin: replace "~/Desktop/jre1.5.0_10" with "~/jre1.5.0_10" shows replace "~/Desktop/jre1.5.0_10" with "~/jre1.5.0_10"12:02
chemicalvamperr12:02
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chemicalvampbash: replace: command not found12:02
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tarelerulzwhen you say play the iso directly you mean look inside it and play teh vob or do see it as dvd12:02
leiarI am not able to record voice in audacity neither in xvideocap12:03
root__pls I have a problem... I mount my Windows partition, and now, I cant access it neither from linux, nor from windows... I cant run chdisk tools on it :(12:03
stdinchemicalvamp: no, I meant type ~/jre1.5.0_10 instead of ~/Desktop/jre1.5.0_10 with the mv command12:03
stdintarelerulz: no, you just tell it to play the ISO file, without mounting it12:03
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chemicalvampstdin: ohhh so sudo mv ~/jre-1_5_0_10 /usr/local/java3212:04
stdinchemicalvamp: yeah12:04
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stdinchemicalvamp: fixed the guide again :P12:06
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chemicalvampstdin: sudo mv ~/jre1.5.0_10 /usr/local/java32 (if you needed to put it in the guide)12:06
stdindone, and done :P12:06
chemicalvampxD so is it all fixed and ready? or do i need to repeat everything from that point12:07
stdinno12:07
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chemicalvampwhat about jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin12:07
stdindelete it if you want12:07
root__pls.... help me :(12:08
chemicalvampstdin: just so you know "sudo mv ~/jre-1_5_0_10 /usr/local/java32" didnt work, sudo mv ~/jre1.5.0_10 /usr/local/java32 did though12:09
stdinchemicalvamp: huh? did you use quotes the 1st time?12:10
chemicalvampnope12:10
chemicalvampwas quoting the guide12:10
dazza_hi, my ps2 keyboard doesn't work in the edgy installer. is this a common issue?12:10
tmbg_he took out the dash12:10
stdinahh12:11
chemicalvampthe folder name is jre1.5.0_10 not jre-1_5_0_1012:11
tmbg_dazza_, a guy earlier had that issue, changed something in his bios to fix it12:12
dazza_tmbg_: ok thanks, i'll try that...12:12
leiarI am not able to record voice. Anybody who can help me, pls12:12
stdinchemicalvamp: if you're installing RealPlayer too, refresh for those fixes12:12
chemicalvampk ^.^12:13
stdinooh, just noticed the time, I gotta go to work (yes, work on a SUNDAY!!!)12:14
leiarj/ #audio12:14
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stdinchemicalvamp: you should be ok now12:14
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tarelerulzThanks for telling me about vlc12:14
chemicalvamplemme test it on youtube12:15
stdinvlc is a great app, even tho it's GTK12:15
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leiarI don't know what vlc is. SHould I?12:15
stdin!info vlc12:15
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB12:15
chemicalvampstdin: Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player.12:15
chemicalvampdo i need to reboot or anything like that?12:16
tarelerulzNow all I need to get down how to play all the sub formats and I am good12:16
stdinchemicalvamp: no, shouldn't have to12:16
leiarI use mplayer. What is a streamer?12:16
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mrignsleiar: u can stream media over the network12:18
dazza_tmbg_: i changed a setting but there was no effect, I don't suppose you remember what this person changed?12:18
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tarelerulzthat I must say is hot  streaming media . I do it all the time I have one computer that download it and I play it on the other12:19
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dazza_Admiral_Chicago: sorry, bad drag'n'drop12:23
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vonhi.. i've got 1 internal sound card and 1 external sound card.. how do i make kubuntu to default my sounds from the external one?12:26
vonseems like its onyl playing sound from the internal sound card port12:26
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone12:27
von02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)12:27
MilhousePunkRockI am helping a buddy setting up kubuntu...12:27
von00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 04)12:27
vonthese 212:27
MilhousePunkRockWe are just pondering about the partitioning strategy12:27
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MilhousePunkRockespecially about swap, he's got 1.5 GB physical RAM, does he need swap at all? Mine hardly gets used (that is on Gentoo though)12:28
von!swap12:28
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info12:28
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: unlikely.  could be helpful, though12:28
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: i'd say, go with a gig of swap or so. more if he intends to use hibernation.12:28
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vonhi.. i've got 1 internal sound card and 1 external sound card.. how do i make kubuntu to default my sounds from the external sound card?12:29
voni mean12:29
vonpci sound card instead of the on board sound card12:29
MilhousePunkRockis it a myth that using swap makes the system slower if you have enough physical ram, since HDD is much slower that RAM?12:29
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: yes. it is.12:29
MilhousePunkRockfdoving: OK. So if he wants to hibernate to swap, that would be physical RAM plus video RAM plus a little on top?12:30
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: or.. it depends. you can adjust the kernels swappiness with the numbers in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness12:30
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eilker!raid12:31
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fdovingMilhousePunkRock: i've read somewhere that 1.5 times the size of ram is good for hibernation, i can't confirm that though since i don't use hibernation.12:31
waylandbillvon: change the device listed in the arts configuration dialog (system settings or kcontrol)12:31
voni'm in there but12:32
MilhousePunkRockfdoving: I do, on my laptop, IIRC my swap there is twice my ram12:32
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vonselect the audio device = autodetect, oos, nas, enlighten sound daemon etc12:33
vondon't have my devices12:33
MilhousePunkRockbut the video ram gets written there too, IIRC12:33
waylandbillvon: that's the audio driver, not the device12:33
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fdovingMilhousePunkRock: ok. i'm not up2date on how it works. sounds like you are :)12:33
vonoh there's a Override device location12:33
MilhousePunkRockvon: I guess you will need to change the order of the soundcards in alsaconfig12:33
waylandbillvon: override12:33
vonbut it requires me to fill in the field12:33
vonso i put /dev/audio2 ?12:34
waylandbillvon: /dev/dsp112:34
MilhousePunkRockfdoving: So, he's got 1.5 gig of ram and a 128 MB video card, so 2 GB should be good enough12:34
vonroot@von:~# ls /dev/dsp -l12:34
voncrw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-04-01 23:39 /dev/dsp12:34
voni only have 1 dsp12:34
vonbut i got 3 mixers12:35
vonand 2 audios12:35
vonweird?12:35
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: i'd think so, yes.12:35
vonmixer mixer1 mixer 2 audio audio2 and dsp only12:35
vonsorry i got dsp212:35
waylandbillthat would've been ls -l /dev/dsp*  :-)12:36
MilhousePunkRockwhat about the old school partitioning strategy of: let's say 1 GB for /boot (though that is huge already), about 30 GB for / (should be more than big enough too, right?) and the rest for /home ??12:36
voni don't have dsp1 .. only dsp and dsp212:37
Vincent_kI have 10GB /  and 1,5GB for swap (1GB ram) and the rest for /home12:37
waylandbillvon: that's ok. put dsp212:38
waylandbillsince the default is dsp, my super powers of deduction say dsp2. :-)12:38
MilhousePunkRockso a seperate /boot is old-fashioned, Vincent_k? Including uber geekness with unmounting after boot...12:40
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MilhousePunkRockWhat could the maximum size of / be, assuming you really install a lot of stuff?12:40
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Vincent_kI think it might be unessesary12:41
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Vincent_kbut I'm no expert12:42
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: without home on there? 20GB could be super plenty for / space.12:42
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Vincent_kI've always used this setup though (linux user for aprox 6 yrs)12:42
vonit doesn't work12:43
MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: Thanks, that sounds like a plan... So we'll not use a seperate /boot12:43
Vincent_kIve never even been close to run out of space with 10GB for / running kde12:43
MilhousePunkRock2 GB swap, 20 GB / and rest /home12:43
voncould it be audio2?12:43
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waylandbillvon: maybe. don't know12:44
waylandbillis that a symbolic link to dsp2 though?12:44
vonsomething is starnge.. i just can't hear anything12:44
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MilhousePunkRockmrigns: Oh, a seperate /var, that's a first12:45
waylandbillvon: guess it isn't a symbolic link... can't hurt to try I guess12:45
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mrignsMilhousePunkRock: its usefull though12:45
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: unix servers tended to always have seperate /var. Usually on another drive.12:46
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MilhousePunkRockmrigns: It sure sounds so, but is it something a complete newbie would need?12:46
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: nah12:46
MilhousePunkRockAnd why is noone recommending the seperate /boot? ;-)12:46
vonbut is it correct to put inside the override?12:47
vonhm12:47
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: /boot was to get around bios limitations.12:47
vonahh i guess i'll just disable it from the bios12:47
Vincent_kWhen I ran gentoo I had separate /boot witch where unmounted after boot12:47
MilhousePunkRockAnything he has to take care of considering he will install kubuntu on a physically seperate drive to his Windows, which he wants to dual boot with?12:47
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: generally speaking it's not needed in most cases now.12:47
MilhousePunkRockVincent_k: Exactly that... /me is running Gentoo on this machine, they still recommend it...12:48
vonwhat's the command in terminal to test the /dev/audio ? i remembered its like random or something12:48
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: / and /home is sufficient and is what I use.12:48
vonhow to type in and play something12:48
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MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: IIRC I dont even have a seperate / on my kubuntu...12:49
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waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: you don't need to. I did it in case I need to wipe the / clean and install again and not lose my /home data12:49
MilhousePunkRockmost of my data is on a seperate partition I share with gentoo and which gets mounted to ~/data12:50
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MilhousePunkRockAt least that was the plan, I think I never finished it...12:51
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MilhousePunkRockHe is partitioning now, I will check back if any further questions appear. BTW, I recommended to go for the Feisty Beta already, since it works fine for me, shouldn't be a problem, right?12:53
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Ind[y] Hello. How can I set "sudo" to prompt for the root password?12:53
MilhousePunkRockInd[y] : You have a user root?12:53
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: i was running it, but ksynaptic was not working, so went back to edgy. I hate the touch pad and usually have it disabled.12:53
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filemoverim just compiling the newest ktorrent from source becuase it has better download rates and im getting linking errors for the Xlibs and for Qt im just wondering if anyone knows the default locations for these libs and headers and what flags to pass to configure. It would seem that i already have Xlibs and qt installed12:54
Ind[y] MilhousePunkRock: yes12:54
waylandbillInd[y] : the point of sudo is to eliminate needing to use a root password.12:54
Ind[y] waylandbill: OK. I want to do it though. How can I?12:54
MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: Luckily I run Kubuntu on an older ThinkPad, only a trackpoint there... My buddy is setting up a desktop anyway12:54
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waylandbillInd[y] : you'd use su12:54
SSJ_GZfilemover: You need the -dev packages for each of Qt and X installed.12:54
waylandbillnot sudo12:54
waylandbill!root12:54
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:54
filemovergreat12:55
filemoverthnks12:55
filemoveri think ive got em12:55
MilhousePunkRockInd[y] : "sudo su -"12:55
MilhousePunkRockmakes you login as root12:55
filemoveri installed kdevelop and got Qt along with it12:55
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: yeah. feisty beta is okay.12:55
MilhousePunkRockOr rather remain super user until you log out12:55
waylandbilljust su12:55
SSJ_GZfilemover: sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent should do the trick.12:56
filemoverand i installed all the x.org dev stuff as well12:56
waylandbillno sudo before it.  su or su -12:56
filemoverok12:56
filemoverbut its not the version i want12:56
MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: See, I never use that... ;-)12:56
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filemoverthe one in the repositries is great but theyve just inproved the latest one out of sight12:57
MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: By the way, I swore to myself to wait at least until the RC since the Edgy beta gave me so many problems... But I just couldn't...12:57
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: nor do I. Enabling root is a security risk and sudo works just fine.12:57
filemoverthe download limmits are way up there and steady not like b412:57
SSJ_GZfilemover: That just grabs the dependencies necessary for building ktorrent.   Generally, these don't change much between releases.12:57
filemoverok12:57
filemovergotcha12:57
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filemoverthnx12:58
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: it's like a new toy. Just can't wait. :-)12:58
SSJ_GZfilemover: np =)12:58
MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: I guess that's why the ability to su is pretty undocumented...12:58
MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: On top of that, some stuff does not really work for me yet. But I've got two weeks off now and fixing all that will be a pleasant thing to do... :-D12:59
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waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: two weeks off. that's too nice.01:00
MilhousePunkRockIt's not really off, I still have to write the journals for the past few classes (/me is a student of biology)01:01
waylandbillI write windows software01:02
MilhousePunkRockWho forced you to? ;-)01:02
MilhousePunkRockj/k, I am pretty sure you could hardly make a living from writing FOSS01:02
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von!nivida01:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nivida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:03
von!nividia01:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nividia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:03
von!nvidia01:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:03
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: wrote windows software long before I used linux.01:03
MilhousePunkRocki wish i could code at all, computional biology seems to be "the thing" for a geeky biologist...01:04
sorush20!fiesty01:04
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FilthpigI wanna live, I wanna live to see your body beat01:05
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MilhousePunkRockHow can it be released if the RC isn't even out? Or the kernel not being frozen yet? April fool's day, huh?01:06
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smilehi everybody01:06
smilehow to make a voice chat with kopete ?01:07
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busfahrerExcuse me, how do I switch the 'startup' logo between ubuntu and kubuntu? (kdm/gdm)?01:07
MilhousePunkRocksmile: Jabber Jingle aka Google Talk?01:07
MilhousePunkRockbusfahrer: The bootsplash? I think you could edit your grub.conf accordingly...01:08
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fdovingbusfahrer: in a terminal 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so'01:09
c1|freakybusfahrer: do you mean switching between kdm and gdm or the usplash?01:09
MilhousePunkRockbusfahrer: Sorry, it's called menu.lst here01:09
busfahrerfdoving: There was also another command involved besides that01:09
c1|freakydpkg-reconfigure gdm and then choose kdm01:09
c1|freakyi think01:09
c1|freakyor something like that01:09
c1|freakyit will ask which one of both u want to use01:10
smileMilhousePunkRock: what is jabber jingle ?01:10
busfahrerthanks guys01:10
MilhousePunkRockbusfahrer: There is no good reason why you would need two login managers though01:10
MilhousePunkRockMilhousePunkRock: What kind of voice chat were you referring to in the first place?01:10
smileMilhousePunkRock: i want speak with msn user by mic01:11
MilhousePunkRocksmile: Hmm... Did you ask in #kopete if that is possible at all?01:11
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smileMilhousePunkRock: i didnt found a option for voice talk .. i found the cam but not the mic01:12
smileMilhousePunkRock: is this possible with aMSN  or Gaim ?01:13
MilhousePunkRocksmile: A quote fromt the KDE forum: "Kopete does not support voice conversation via MSN. Only voice conversation via GoogleTalk is supported right now. "01:13
MilhousePunkRocksmile: That was july 2006 though, no idea if anything has changed01:13
MilhousePunkRocksmile: You are probably best off asking in #kopete01:14
smileMilhousePunkRock: googletalk can speak with msn user ?01:14
smileMilhousePunkRock: what do u mean ?01:14
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DeepoHi01:14
MilhousePunkRocksmile: No, google talk can talk with google talk01:14
MilhousePunkRocksmile: join the channel #kopete and ask there01:15
smileMilhousePunkRock: how can i connect to this channel ?01:15
MilhousePunkRockjust click on #kopete01:15
MilhousePunkRockor type "/j #kopete"01:15
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MilhousePunkRockwithout the quotes01:15
smileMilhousePunkRock: thx i did it :-)01:16
MilhousePunkRocksmile: yw01:16
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DeepoHow can I update my kubuntu to feity ?01:16
Deepofeisty ?01:16
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smileDeepo: yes is ur ku is edge01:16
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Alda-check the kubuntu homepage01:16
MilhousePunkRockdeepo: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade01:16
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Deepook01:17
MilhousePunkRockdeepo: alternatively: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:17
smileDeepo: just click " sudo apt-get upgrade "01:17
ruschiCan anyone confirm missing tty if changing from sysv-init to upstart?01:17
smileDeepo: oh .yes ..as MilhousePunkRock said :-)01:17
Deepook, thanks01:17
MilhousePunkRockDeepo: It might take a while though, don't dare to abort it, it left me with an unbootable system01:18
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ruschiI changed form sysV init to upstart now there are no getty spawned - already installed console-setup01:18
fdovingruschi: do you have 'system-services' installed ?01:19
MilhousePunkRockbtw, Deepo, what you asked for is even in the channel topic.. ;-)01:19
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ruschifdoving: no it was not installed - should I post a bugreport ? IMHO this is an essential thing and should be installed by depencency of ubuntu-base01:21
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sorush20anyone here using fiesty01:21
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MilhousePunkRocksorush20: No, but Feisty. :-P The right place to ask questions about it is #ubuntu+1 though01:22
fdovingruschi: ubuntu-minimal already depends on it. no need.01:23
fdovingsorush20: yes. i use feisty.01:23
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tuxhi01:24
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ruschifdoving: strange I upgraded from dapper to edgy and now to feisty - I never had ubuntu-minimal installed01:24
ruschiobviously it is not needed - no dependants of ubuntu-minimal01:25
tuxdoes one of you know wich packages i need to install for KDE, just KDE-core?01:25
Deepoor if you have KDE 3.5.6 Edgy packages installed add this one for i386:01:26
Deepowhat does that mean ?01:26
DeepoI have edgy01:26
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fdovingruschi: what app did you use when upgrading? apt-get?01:26
ruschiyes01:26
ruschiapt-get distupgrade01:27
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busfahrerExcuse me, how do I get konqueror to thumbnail movie files? (instead of icons)01:27
ruschifdoving: is apt-get distupgrade replaced by something else?01:27
fdovingruschi: then that's what failed. you should use aptitude, as apt-get doesn't install recommends. upstart recommends system-services, aptitude and the rest will install recommends by default. but you are allowed to manually remove them afterwards.01:28
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MilhousePunkRockDeepo: Did you update your KDE in between? If you, you are on KDE 3.5.6, if not, 3.5.5.01:29
Deepoah ok01:29
Deepoim 3.5.501:29
MilhousePunkRockDeepo: Just click Help --> About KDE in any K-app to find out01:29
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fdovingruschi: you can also pass --install-recommends as an option to apt-get, if you want.01:30
fdovingor --with-recommends.. maybe.01:30
ruschifdoving: thanks01:31
ruschimaybe going down for reboot01:31
sinkorswimsorry for the basic question, but what's the kubuntu equivalent of a windows ctrl+click?01:32
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vonhelp01:33
voni put a cd in, and it alwwtys say its empty01:33
vonwhy01:33
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fdovingsinkorswim: what does ctrl+click do in windows?01:34
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sinkorswimfdoving: it lets u select multiple items01:34
sinkorswimin a file explorer01:35
busfahrerExcuse me, how do I get konqueror to thumbnail movie files? (instead of icons)01:35
vonwhy does it auto mount it?01:35
fdovingsinkorswim: that works for me in konqueror. too.01:35
sinkorswimshift+click selects items which are next to each other, ctrl+click lets u select items from anywhere in the current view01:35
vonand say no media01:35
vonwhywhywhy01:35
sinkorswimfdoving: strange... not working for me01:36
MilhousePunkRocksinkorswim: Standard kde behaviour is one-click-execution. Just hold crtl and drag a little square over each object you want to select01:36
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ruschifdoving: no it didn't help - at boottime I now get a message "/etc/event.d/tty1: unknown stanza"01:36
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MilhousePunkRockruschi: I have that too, once you solve it, let me know how...01:36
MilhousePunkRocknot for tty1 though, iirc01:37
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MilhousePunkRockworking, sinkorswim?01:37
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intelikeyvon  does it automount ?01:38
MilhousePunkRockINTELIKEY01:38
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock :)01:38
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vonit does automount01:38
sinkorswimMilhousePunkRock: no. I've been messing with all kinds of settings tho. lemme reboot and try again01:38
vonok01:38
MilhousePunkRockintelikey: Evangelism count: +101:38
voni tried to type it manually mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom01:38
vonand it worked01:38
ruschimilhousepunkrock: I got a strang line - seems like a typo: "/sbin/getty 38400 tty1exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1" - see no space between tty1 and exec01:39
intelikeyvon does 'mount '  show it mounted ?01:39
vonbut the automount makes me can't see the files01:39
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MilhousePunkRockruschi: TBH, I did not look into it yet, things change too fast on Feisty, so I wait until the final release to straighten everything out01:39
vonbefore i manually type mount /xxxxx , i can't see on mount01:39
fdovingruschi: what does /etc/event.d/tty1 look like?01:39
vonafter i typed it can.. how can i change the way kunbuntu mount?01:40
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intelikeyvon then it's not "mounted"   you can dubble check with  'cat /proc/mounts '01:40
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MilhousePunkRockintelikey, von: Sounds like a kioslave thing to me01:40
ruschifdoving: "start on runlevel 2 .......\n  respawn \n /sbin/getty 38400 tty1exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1"01:41
intelikeyvon that's the reason i asked.  you are not seeing a mount you are seeing a kiosocket01:41
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock prezactly.01:41
ruschisorry - gotta go01:41
fdovingruschi: i'll paste mine online. hang on.01:41
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vonhow do i retify that?01:41
ruschiok01:41
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ruschiwhere is the pastbin?01:41
apokryphosruschi: /msg ubotu pastebin01:41
MilhousePunkRockhttp://pastebin.ca01:41
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MilhousePunkRockfor example01:41
vonits a frseh installation, i didn't mess with the settings01:42
intelikeyvon idk.  i'm not a gui/kde/'pointy clicky thingy'  guy,01:42
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fdovingruschi: http://qtnode.net/pastebin/261301:42
vonidk?01:42
MilhousePunkRockvon: The first time you ever inserted a media, did a little window come up?01:42
fdovingruschi: that's the syntax, change tty1 to tty2, tty3 and so on for the rest of the ttys.01:42
intelikeyvon if fdoving is not too busy he might know.01:42
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betaanother stupid question most probably: i want to reinstall windows, how do i fix the bootloader afterwards (wrote it in the mbr simply)?01:42
knubbehi, im gonna re-install my kubuntu laptop. any recommendations with stuff to backup before? except my home-folder that is..01:42
ruschiok - Thanks alot01:42
ruschigotta go01:42
intelikeyvon idk= i don't know01:43
vonno, i know the little window that suppose to ask me how i want to do with the cd would pop out..but it didn't pop out.. instead, an icon is on my desktop automatically01:43
vonthat says cdrom001:43
fdovingi'll be back in 10 mins.01:43
betaas i dont know anything about grub config yet i would prefer to just backup my current config then write it back...if possible anyhow01:43
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MilhousePunkRockbeta: The grub configuration is in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:44
vonoic01:44
MilhousePunkRockJust copy that to a secure location01:44
betathx01:44
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MilhousePunkRockbeta: I think you need to run update-grub after win installation, IIRC windows overwrites the mbr01:44
betaMilhousePunkRock: then after the windows reinstall, how do i put the grub backup back into the mbr?01:44
MilhousePunkRocknot 100% sure though01:44
MilhousePunkRockupdate-grub, but someone needs to confirm that01:45
betaMilhousePunkRock: yup i read to do that via a live-cd but that doenst put my backup grub config in the mbr i assume01:45
vonnow i have to sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom everytime i put in a cd01:45
Tm_T!feisty01:45
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MilhousePunkRockbeta: most likely not, just copy it back then01:46
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betaMilhousePunkRock:  ah wait...im dull again....just do update-grub to rewrite a generic grub config than put the backed up configboot/grub/menu.ls01:47
beta?01:47
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MilhousePunkRockbeta: Now that I properly read what you wrote... Exactly, the menu.lst does not reside in the mbr, but grub itself01:48
usamahashimihello everyone!01:48
intelikeyvon you probably wont like it,  but what i would do is write a script and put in a handy spot to do    [ ! `cat ~/.cd` = 1 ]  && eject && echo 1 > ~/.cd    <new line> [ `cat ~/.cd` = 1 ]  && mount <cd_mountpoint> && : > ~/.cd               then disable the desktop setting to display device icons on the desktop.    and make sure the fstab was set to allow users to mount it....    but that's just me.01:48
MilhousePunkRockbeta: So you put grub back into place by update-grub and then copy back the original menu.lst01:48
usamahashimii am looking for some replacements of programs of gnome in kde, like gnuplot, gv?01:49
intelikeyinturpreting <new line>  and  <cd_mountpoint>   of course01:49
MilhousePunkRockA general question: Why is the grub.conf called menu.lst in Kubuntu?01:50
betaMilhousePunkRock: right...thats where i was confused.....assuming the grb config was the grub loader itself...01:50
busfahrerIs there any way to disable the Tooltips that appear when you hover over window titles in the taskbar? (i.e. the large ones, not the small yellow tooltips)01:50
betaMilhousePunkRock: thx got it now01:51
MilhousePunkRockbusfahrer: Most likely yes, in KControl somewhere... I am not in Kubuntu right now, so I cant check01:51
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usamahashimiis there any clone for kde of package gnuplot and gv?01:53
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betais it possible to make the navi bar in konq remembering its settings (size, displayed items)?01:54
MilhousePunkRockusamahashimi: You can use GTK programs in KDE too01:54
usamahashimiMilhousePunkRock: yes, i know but i will prefer the kde's one01:54
intelikeyvon you never said anything about that, does that mean you are considering it ?   </shocked if so>01:55
betai looked through the manuals but couldnt find it mentioned....but i cant really believe it aint possible01:55
usamahashimiIs there any site which can tell the names of similar packages of gnome and kde?01:55
MilhousePunkRockusamahashimi: If you know the purpose, google can probably help... like "qt plotting application" or alike01:56
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usamahashimiMilhousePunkRock: lemme check01:56
von?01:57
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holastickboyasamahashimi: u could try kde-apps.org and search there for an alternative01:57
intelikeybeta with a point and click methood prolly not.  but i'm sure it can be done, maybe in ~/.kde/aplications/ something...   but it may not be easy.01:57
cs178_busfahrer: do you speak german? cause i have a german kubuntu and it might be a bit difficult to translate...01:57
usamahashimiholastickboy: thats a good idea,01:57
holastickboydoes anyone here run world of warcraft on linux here?01:58
betaintelikey: ok, thx...at least its possible. if way beyound my current possibilities most probably :)01:59
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betaif = also01:59
betaalthough01:59
betasheesh...01:59
beta;)01:59
intelikey:)01:59
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busfahrercs178_: I figured it out, thanks :-)02:00
usamahashimiholastickboy: i find some packages, like kst and labplot but how do i know that which is standard for kde?02:00
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holastickboyusamahashimi: as far as I know, if those programs are on that site, they have been made using the QT library, which is basically the foundation of kde.02:01
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joaohello02:01
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holastickboyusamahashimi: u can always download it and try, wont hurt02:01
holastickboyjoao: hi there02:02
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fdovingbeta: update-grub just updates menu.lst, it does not re-write the mbr with grub.02:02
joaoits may first time here02:02
fdovingbeta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:03
holastickboyjoao: same here mate, been on for like 2mins :D02:03
Jisaowelcome, jo02:03
joao...abd new in ubuntu02:03
usamahashimiholastickboy: i find one, kmatplot and its also in repos02:03
holastickboyjoao: its a good distro02:03
fdovingvon: hi, what was your problem again? - cd mounting?02:03
akrushello everyone, i have problems with DVD disk :(02:03
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holastickboyusamahashimi: nice :D02:03
betafdoving: oh thx for pointing that out....saved me from an afternoon of headaches most certainly!02:03
intelikeygrub-install /dev/<your_hd>02:04
vonhey it worked after i rebooted02:04
just-this-time!sound02:04
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:04
holastickboyakrus: whats ur problem, u can't play dvd movies?02:04
vonthanks02:04
akrusit mounts ok, but some files are unreadable and i'm getting '[431966.324000]  Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 2107397' in dmesg02:04
joaoice distro and many people to help (us and them)02:04
akruswith different block numbers :(02:04
akruswhen copying to HDD02:04
intelikeybeta grub-install /dev/<your_hd>  <<< to rewrite the MBR02:04
holastickboyarkrus: sounds to me like ur disk is corrupt, what does everyone else think?02:04
fdovingakrus: is the disk fine? scratches or anything?02:04
betabasically a good link was all im looking for....sometimes i still struggle to google a good manual...even if its just basic stuff hm02:05
Jisaodoes cp -ax preserve the ownership and permissions of the files?02:05
akrusfdoving: lemme check :)02:05
betaintelikey: : thx, noted02:05
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akruslooks like nothing... lemme clean it :D02:05
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atidemhello!02:05
akrussomeone left fingerprints here lol02:05
JisaoHI atidem02:05
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holastickboyakrus: does it work on other computers or os?02:06
akruswell02:06
akruslast time it was windows02:06
akrusworked well02:06
akrusbut it was so long ago02:06
holastickboyakrus: well im outta ideas :D02:07
akrusokay retrying :)02:07
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akruslol working02:07
akrusthankies :D02:07
holastickboyakrus: lol, i didnt do much :D02:07
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akrus:)02:08
holastickboyDoes anyone have a nice Linux community website they go to regularly?  I'm looking for a site with a forum and stuff02:08
intelikeyakrus i don't know what disk you are refering to   but you might consider that some pressed disks the actual write is on the back side and if you scratch that you ruin the disk.    a clean/slick face on the disk does not always mean it's not scratched.02:08
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akrusintelikey: yeah i know, just i thought it's like 1Gb+ SD Card problem x)02:08
intelikeyk02:08
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intelikey!forums | holastickboy have you looked on ubuntu02:09
ubotuholastickboy have you looked on ubuntu: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.02:09
Alda-Hi there, I'm messing around with some settings, and found the "Translucency"-setting in window behaviour ... however, when I activate it nothing happens .... do I have to restart X or something like that or is it broken? :)02:09
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intelikeyholastickboy i'm not sending you there.... wouldn't send someone some place i don't go... just asked if you had checked it.02:11
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betais there an easy way to make all windows remember its sizings and positions? is kcontrol>behaviour for it?02:11
intelikeyAlda- did you "apply" the changes ?02:12
Alda-yupp02:12
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intelikeybeta check in  kcontrol02:12
holastickboyintelikey: thanks for that mate.  I was thinking of something a little smaller, more of a tight nit community.02:12
Alda-allthough, I'm not really sure what should happen ... but arent the windows supposed to get transparent? :)02:12
betahm, i applied firefox size fullsize there but it didnt do anything...i just notice that it works now02:12
betaintelikey: possible it is only applied after a reboot?02:13
intelikeyholastickboy mmmm  google  "local lugs"    maybe02:13
betaotherwise my windows just behave strange02:13
holastickboyintelikey: will do, good idea02:13
intelikeybeta this is not M$ we don't reboot for things like that02:13
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betaintelikey: crap.....then i got another strange behaving on my list which i got to sort :(02:14
intelikeybeta a restart of x or of kde (both equal in most cases)    yes   reboot no.02:14
betai just noticed some apps start up in the background though theres no window loaded that has focus stealing prevention or anything02:15
betaintelikey: ok, will try to apply settings then restart kde....hope that will explain it02:15
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intelikeykde = the tinkerers dream, the configurers paradice, the "but i want it to just work 'ers "  worst nightmare ....02:17
holastickboynothing like having a nice space to cater to ur every tinkering needs though02:18
holastickboythats what i love about linux02:18
holastickboyMYSPACE02:18
AldaThe transluency required a X-restart it seems, not it works :)02:18
intelikeyand i would ask "but if you want it to 'just work', why aren't you on windows?"   </monolog>02:18
fdovingintelikey: because it just works sometimes, then it breaks :)02:19
intelikeyfdoving lol02:19
intelikey:)02:19
holastickboylol02:19
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betait would be a relief for the linux world but i wont switch back sry ;)02:20
intelikeyi still like the one...  Q, what do linux users do ?02:20
intelikeyA, they install software.02:20
holastickboylol02:20
holastickboyits true02:20
holastickboyits like a hobby02:21
intelikeywouldn't be funny if it wasn't true.02:21
holastickboylol, yeah02:21
CVirusAmarok suddenly stopped playing mp3s as if it has no support for them .. wtf ?!02:21
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CVirusanybody ?02:22
holastickboyany error messages?02:22
intelikeyi'm glad someone pointed out that   wtf = what's that for    cause i thought people were cursing in shorthand .....02:22
betaeven as a noob i can see how you can be pulled into installing configuring evrything to your needs....but it has to be said that KDe out of the box as a working environment is still centurys ahead of windows02:23
holastickboyyeah02:23
intelikeybeta hmmmm   ok.  now it's been said.   :)02:24
betanever used a mac....and even with all the little hurdles im still amazed by kde02:24
betaintelikey: hehe ;p02:24
holastickboyi have a mac02:24
holastickboyits too dumbed down02:24
holastickboyalmost no customisation at all02:24
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holastickboyapart from wallpaper...02:24
intelikeyholastickboy gnome'ish ?02:24
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holastickboyno... even  worse02:25
CVirusholastickboy: no suitable demux pludin02:25
CVirusplugin*02:25
intelikeywell i take that back.   gnome is not that bad,  it's just not as easily customizable as kde.02:25
holastickboyyeah02:25
betai seriously wanted to buy a mac....but im so tempted now to use only linux and free software from now on02:26
holastickboyCVirus: im not an expert, but try typing that error message into google and see what happens02:26
CVirusholastickboy: that's the error messege the appears when libxine-extracodecs is NOT installed02:26
CVirusbut I have the package installed ever since I started using Kubuntu02:26
intelikeyCVirus Q,  does it fail on all mp3's now or only mp3's of some types ?02:26
CVirusall mp3s02:27
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holastickboyCVirus: yeah, what about after a system restart02:27
CVirusholastickboy: system restart ?02:27
CVirusLOL02:27
CVirushow would a reboot fix things !02:27
holastickboyCVirus: well, if it is a temporary crash on AmaroK then it might02:28
intelikeyCVirus update anything lately ?     /var/log/dpkg.log  maybe02:28
CVirusintelikey: nuthing related02:28
intelikeyholastickboy M$ mentality ?02:29
intelikeythis one window looks a little bit different than normal.   i think i'll reboot....02:29
CVirushehe02:29
intelikeyoh i lost my internet connection i need to reboot02:30
CVirusbrb02:30
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intelikeywait the mouse is "jerky" i need to reboot02:30
holastickboythis morning i tried using adept, but everytime i tried to launch it, it just hung there and did nothing.  I tried killing the process and apt lock just incase that would help, but it didnt.  So i just turned it off, came on this afternoon and it works02:30
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just-this-timecloned installation silent on HD Audioo intel02:30
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just-this-timehow do I make java work on konqueror02:31
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fdoving!java02:32
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:32
intelikeyholastickboy i didn't say you couldn't change anything by rebooting.  i just pointed out that it's not needed.02:32
just-this-timehow do I make java work on konqueror, so that paste.ubunut-nl.org works  on konqueror and wont blame me for spamming02:32
BluesKajHowdy all :)02:32
holastickboyintelikey: i dont reboot all the time, infact, I hate doing it cause it wastes my time02:33
just-this-timeok02:33
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intelikeyjust-this-time paste.ubuntu-nl.org hasn't worked for me this year.   try  pastebin.ca or us or gb  or.....02:33
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just-this-timek intelikey02:33
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just-this-timewhat could be an easy quick and simple test for java in konqueror. pls link02:38
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just-this-timesun-java6-jre installed already02:39
just-this-timeq02:39
CVirusintelikey: holastickboy: deleting my ~/.xine solved the issue02:39
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holastickboyCVirus: weird how it just happened though02:40
holastickboyCVirus: glad it worked out though02:40
CVirusno idea02:40
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intelikeynoted.02:40
CVirus:-)02:41
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angasule!repositories02:47
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:47
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krautmoin02:50
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mrigns!de | kraut02:51
ubotukraut: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:51
krautmrigns: i know, so were is the problem?02:51
mrignska, dachte wsstest es nicht, wegen dem "moin"02:51
mrignsnicht bse gemeint02:52
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krautmrigns: ah, ok02:52
krautmrigns: i just used it as an amsg.02:52
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krautand some kind of internatiolization of moin ;)02:53
krautit works pretty well ;)02:53
os2macHaving a very interesting problem with network manager in fiesty.02:53
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os2macit's not seeing any wireless networks but I can manually connect just fine02:54
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os2macand even after I am connected and talking (like I am now) networkmanager still doesn't see the network02:54
mrignsos2mac: for feisry use #ubuntu+102:54
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os2macor #Kubuntu+1?02:55
ubinspHello everybody02:55
ubinspWho is using kmail here?02:56
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BluesKajubinsp, I do, what's up ?02:59
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intelikey /bin/sh: /bin/sh: cannot execute binary file03:00
intelikey?03:00
ubinspBluesKaj: excuse me, I was warming my tea03:01
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intelikey<ubinsp> Who is using kmail here?   <BluesKaj> ubinsp, I do, what's up ?   <ubinsp> BluesKaj: excuse me, I was warming my tea03:01
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BluesKajnp, brb...gonna get a coffee03:01
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ubinspBluesKaj: so my problem is : On a mail server, I can get my mails with imap protocol in digest or cram MD5, But with pop protocol I can't. But I am sure that server support pop protocol with digest or cram MD5 auth, because I succeed to get them with these method with thunderbird. So, what is the problem in kmail with auth digest or cram or APOP auth in pop protocol?03:04
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BluesKajdunno, ubinsp I just use pop, which is quite straightforward to setup, but I'm not sure that one can configure all those options to work simultaneously.03:06
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ubinspBluesKaj: Yes, of course, I use on of them, not all at the same moment03:09
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ubinspone*03:09
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BluesKajI get mail from my ISP, I don't bother trying to channel my webmail to kmail03:11
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sorush20hi03:12
sorush20I just get an upgrade tool crash ..03:12
sorush20how do I recover it..03:12
ubinspI think Digest-MD5 is the best, but my server says, in pop protocol, that digest-md5 auth is not known by him, but when I do a telnet on it, it's written that digest-md5 auth is OK.03:12
BluesKajI can't get thunderbird to links to open my browser so I dropped it...it's the only reason I use kmail03:12
ubinspSo I think there is a bug in kmail03:12
intelikeywhy am i getting an error out of this ?      ps -A x | grep -s "$PPID" | grep -q "-bash" && echo 0 || echo 103:12
BluesKajubinsp , sorry but I'm not familiar with digest-md5 ... intelikey?03:13
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ubinspBluesKaj: I can use cram-md5, it is not a problem03:14
ubinspbut the result is the same : an error message03:15
BluesKajnever even heard of it before03:15
intelikeyok it's the shell removing the quotes03:15
ubinspOne moment, I have an answer on french channel03:15
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BluesKajintelikey , what is ubinsp talking about, cram-md5 mail protocol ?03:17
sorush20my dpkg is locked by another proces how do I find out what it is and kill it all ?03:17
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BluesKajsorush20, 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'03:18
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BluesKajor you have adept or synaptic still open , sorush2003:19
intelikeyBluesKaj idk.   imap and pop is all i'm familear with.03:19
BluesKajyeah, totally greek to me , intelikey03:19
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ubinspBluesKaj: cram-md5 or digest-md5 is a mean to exchange login with the server to be sure that the client is the good person, without sending the password in clear text03:20
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ubinspit's only authentification03:20
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ubinspYou can use it on pop or imap as well03:21
jmichaelxhas anyone else experienced a major problem upgrading to kubuntu feisty beta? i upgraded by changing 'edgy' to 'feisty' in all instances in my sources.list, and doing a dist-upgrade. everything appeared to work, but when i reboot, i wind up getting 'busybox' and no bash. would anyone know whether or not there is still a hope of salvaging this system?03:21
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elitehackerhey i am having problems with my KONSOLE* i am typing in su* to open up a java.bin file on my pc but when i do it asks for a password and it says authentication failed when i type in my pass word correctly03:21
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intelikeyhow do you pronounce   breath  ?03:22
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intelikeyelitehacker that's because you don't have a root password.03:22
elitehackerohhh03:22
elitehackerbut i have a password when i log in?03:23
elitehackeror is it a system pass?03:23
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intelikeyelitehacker yeah that's your password not root's03:23
elitehackerohh so how do i make my self one?03:23
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intelikeywhy do you want to ?03:23
elitehackerto install java03:23
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elitehackerto get frostwire to work03:23
intelikeyyou don't need a root password for that03:24
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elitehackerit ask's for one in the java instructions03:24
intelikey!java03:24
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:24
clemyeatselitehacker: you can run things as root by prefixing your commands with "sudo"03:24
intelikey!frostwire03:24
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:24
intelikey!sudo > elitehacker03:24
gugu^please help to configure server for a little network03:24
elitehackerwow!!! to many links and helpful tips!!!03:25
clemyeatselitehacker: if you need to log in as root (you rarely do but anyway) you need to assign root a password with "sudo passwd root" then log in as root with "su -".. or even without knowing root's password: "sudo su -"03:25
intelikeyand that's all for me.     later folks.03:25
elitehackeri will try the java/ubuntu fourm link03:25
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elitehackerohhh kinda like a windows administrator to the whole pc?03:25
intelikeyclemyeats that's still not needed.   sudo -i  and you have made your self root.03:26
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clemyeatsintelikey: ah well, then even better :)03:26
intelikeyi mean after all in ubuntu  you are root jr.  just grow up....  :)03:26
elitehackerso how to i sign in as ROOT?03:27
elitehackeri only made one user03:27
clemyeatselitehacker: graphically ??03:27
elitehackerwhats that mean>?03:27
clemyeatselitehacker: you mean how do you log in as root in the graphical environment, or how do you run stuff as root.. ?03:27
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elitehackeryeah03:28
clemyeatselitehacker: yeah what ? :)03:28
elitehackerso do i sign in as ROOT and run the java.bin file in terminal?03:28
clemyeatselitehacker: you just run the bin file as root..03:28
elitehackerhow thou i tried but i need a root pass03:28
clemyeatselitehacker: sudo ./java.bin03:28
elitehackeralrite03:28
elitehacker1 sec03:29
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elitehackerit says no such directory or name?03:30
elitehackerwhen i type sudo ./fre-1-5....... .bin?03:30
elitehackeri have the file loacted on my desktop03:30
archangel_I dont know what happend, one minute I can play DVD's the next I cant03:31
archangel_codecs are installed03:31
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archangel_whats the deal?03:31
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jmichaelxhas anyone else experienced a major problem upgrading to kubuntu feisty beta? i upgraded by changing 'edgy' to 'feisty' in all instances in my sources.list, and doing a dist-upgrade. everything appeared to work, but when i reboot, i wind up getting 'busybox' and no bash. would anyone know whether or not there is still a hope of salvaging this system?03:34
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elitehackerHELP i tried installing well downloading java trew terminal and tyhis is what it says03:35
elitehackerelitehacker@monster:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin03:35
elitehackerPassword:03:35
elitehackerSorry, try again.03:35
elitehackerPassword:03:35
elitehackerReading package lists... Done03:35
elitehackerBuilding dependency tree... Done03:35
elitehackerPackage sun-java5-bin is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:35
elitehackerThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:35
elitehackeris only available from another source03:35
elitehackerE: Package sun-java5-bin has no installation candidate03:35
elitehackerelitehacker@monster:~$03:35
elitehackersorry03:35
elitehackeri didnt mean to press that button to make it all my typing03:35
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mrigns!paste | elitehacker03:35
ubotuelitehacker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:35
elitehackeryeah i know but i hit the wrong one03:36
elitehackerwow thats a huge flood03:36
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Tm_Telitehacker: hmm, how about java6 ?03:37
elitehackeri have instructions03:38
hardlifemissy0703:38
elitehackerwait i am installing 5.1?03:38
elitehackeris there a 6?03:38
Tm_Tyes03:38
Tm_Telitehacker: "apt-cache search sun-java"03:38
archangel_I tried upgrading also (but from dapper to edgy) and it looked like it worked, however it says I still have Dapper03:38
elitehackerwhats that?03:38
archangel_not sure why03:38
elitehackerapt-?03:38
elitehackerdo i type that in terminal03:38
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Tm_Telitehacker: apt-cache is command that does fiddle with your package database, this particular command series search package that does match with search pattern03:39
elitehackerwhen i type tat it tells me about frost wire?03:39
Tm_Tit uses java03:39
elitehackeryeah thats why i need to install it03:39
elitehackersoi can run frost wire03:39
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sinkorswimI switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, now I'm getting "connection timed out; no servers could be reached" when I try "host -t mx" on ANY domain03:39
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elitehackeri have this link but idk if it will work or be usefull to me?03:40
elitehackerhttp://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting03:40
elitehackermy pc is kubuntu 6.06 x86 but this one is a x68?03:40
elitehackeris there a typo?03:40
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asdasdthe recent upgrades broke vmware.. whats the best way to fix this03:41
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mrignswow a x68. how did you manage to install kubuntu on a NASA Shuttle Landing Facility???03:41
elitehackeri dont understand?03:42
zulikwellcome all03:42
elitehackerios that a good pc or old?03:42
pauljwreinstall vmware, asdasd03:42
mrignshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X6803:42
Filip^I need MythTV 0.19 because the protocol is different from 0.20. How do I install older versions on ubuntu?03:42
BluesKaj!mythtv03:42
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV03:42
just-this-time1http://pastebin.ca/41959803:43
just-this-timehttp://pastebin.ca/41959803:43
just-this-timewine issue http://pastebin.ca/41959803:43
mrignselitehacker: 386 486 586 686 = x6803:43
just-this-timesorry re-pasting03:44
mrignsx = placeholder03:44
asdasdpauljw: install it over the top of the old one?03:44
elitehackerum i typed this in termianal apt- get java6.bin and it sayed error and 13 permissions denied and it sayed are u root so i typed in yes and a whole bunch of Y's went down the screen03:44
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Filip^mrigns: (surely you mean x86)03:45
pauljwyes, it will most likely remove itself and reinstall, but it compiles to the kernel and when you upgraded it needs to do it again.03:45
mrignsmrigns:  err yes03:45
mrignsFilip^: yes03:45
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elitehackerwhat interface am i using03:46
elitehackeri just got java to work but it asks me03:46
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elitehackeram i using KDE or Gnome?03:46
archangel_I'm looking for a really good first person shooter03:46
archangel_is there any in adept?03:46
elitehackerHELP03:46
pauljwelitehacker: are you using kubuntu?  it's KDE03:47
sinkorswimI switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, now I'm getting "connection timed out; no servers could be reached" when I try "host -t mx" on ANY domain03:47
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archangel_elitehacker: dude do you have a blue square at the bottem left of your screen?03:47
elitehackeryeah i typed this in03:47
elitehackersudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf03:47
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elitehackerwhat is that it sayed i need it for java in order to get it03:48
zulikelitehacker:  yu have repo?03:48
elitehacker sudo dpkg-reconfigure debcon03:48
jack_hi, is there a dictionary that i could use offline ?03:48
elitehacker? what that is?03:48
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pollyo!frostwire03:48
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:48
jack_elitehacker:03:48
elitehackeri dont need that03:48
jack_you mean me?03:48
pollyoAnyone here use frostwire?03:49
elitehackeri wish i cabn03:49
elitehackercan*03:49
pollyoelitehacker: Why can't you?03:49
elitehackerbut i dont think java nor terminal like's me03:49
elitehackercuz i need java installed03:49
elitehackerbut insted its taking me 2days now03:49
pollyoelitehacker: Why not just install it?03:49
elitehackeri "kant"03:49
elitehackeri dont think kubuntu will let me i need a root? w.e that is03:50
LjLjack_: you could install the dictd server on your own machine, and then use any dict client03:50
LjL!info dict-gcide03:50
elitehackeronce i find the root pass then it shoudl work?03:50
ubotudict-gcide: A Comprehensive English Dictionary. In component main, is optional. Version 0.48-4.1 (edgy), package size 14769 kB, installed size 17152 kB03:50
LjLroot pass?03:50
LjL!root03:50
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:50
elitehackerk i tihkn this is the last link i am clicking on03:51
just-this-time!alternatives03:51
ubotuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.03:51
pauljwelitehacker: you do not need root, use sudo.  what you really need is to do your homework and read up on using this os.  it's not windows.03:51
pollyoelitehacker: Why do you need a root password?03:51
pollyoelitehacker: Just sudo command and then type in your password.03:51
ubinspbye03:52
pollyoelitehacker: I've been using kubuntu for two - three weeks and I was able to install it in minutes.03:52
pauljw:)03:52
pollyoI'm only having trouble closing Frostwire.  It appears to stay open.03:52
Filip^What's happening is that he's typing stuff into the terminal, which tells him he needs root privileges. Someone needs to give him step-by-step instructions on installing Java03:52
Filip^elitehacker: feisty or edgy?03:53
Filip^6.10 or 7.0403:53
elitehackerwhat03:53
pollyoFlip^: Doesn't adept have an installation for Java?  That is what I used to install Java.03:53
elitehackeryes i do use sudo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:53
elitehackerbut when itype in the java file it says no directory03:54
jack_LjL: thats cool, do i need to enable the dict server in the firewall settings then?03:54
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LjLjack_: i don't think so, since you will be using it locally03:54
LjLunless the firewall is quite stupid03:54
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Filip^pollyo: I don't know, I just switched to Kubuntu two weeks ago. But my point is that he doesn't want to know about sudo or anyhting else. He wants to have java installed03:55
soulrider_pauljw: we went through this with him yesterday03:55
jack_LjL: so i just install dict-gcide and choose any dict and it should work? sounds so easy03:55
elitehackeri need frost wire to work03:55
pauljwsoulrider_: I saw some of that exchange.  :(03:55
soulrider_pauljw: he isnt interested in reading anything at all.03:55
pauljwsoulrider_: frustrating03:55
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soulrider_indeed03:55
LjLjack_: no wait, dict-gcide *is* the dictionary (an english-english dictionary), while dictd is the actual server03:55
pollyoelitehacker: Did you install the java though adept?03:55
elitehackerfrost wire_frusturrating03:56
elitehackerwhast adept?03:56
pollyoelitehacker: Are you using kubuntu?03:56
elitehackertheres like 2 names for each progra,03:56
elitehackeryes03:56
soulrider_pollyo: i gave him several links to understand package management, but he wont read anything at all03:56
elitehackeri did03:56
LjLjack_: then to use it, you can use kdict (i think it's included by default)03:56
elitehackeri use sudo NOTHING WORKS03:56
jack_LjL:  i just found that out in synaptic, just missing the dict-gcide, server is already installed for some reason03:56
elitehackerall i need is java to run but instead i have to alter like files and stuff03:57
pollyoelitehacker: Click the "K" in the lowerleft and click "System" then click "Adept Manager"03:57
jack_LjL: no its not would you choose kdict overdict-gcide? or the same?03:57
elitehackeri know its just like winrar but this on wont open up .bin files03:57
elitehackerso theres no point03:57
pollyoelitehacker: Ok.  No point.  You've saved me time.03:58
LjLjack_, they're three different things, you need all three. dictd is the server, kdict is the GUI client for KDE, and dict-gcide is the actual dictionary data03:58
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jack_ok, cool03:58
elitehackerit says java is installed03:58
elitehackerbut it yet it wont run frostwire03:58
jack_LjL: thanks03:58
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soulrider_!beryl03:59
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:59
Filip^elitehacker: Press the Kmenu button in the left-bottom corner of your screen. The button is probably blue. From "System" choose "Manage packages (Adept manager)". Type "Frostwire", confirm by pressing "Apply updates". Where does this not work?03:59
elitehackertheres no files04:00
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Filip^after you type "frostwire", or before?04:00
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elitehackerno04:00
Filip^to that question, you can either answer "after" or "before", not "no"04:00
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elitehackeridk04:01
Filip^what don't you know?04:01
elitehackeromg nvm04:01
elitehackeri never typed it before04:01
Filip^what does "nvm" mean?04:02
elitehackeris there another p2p sharing that is .EXE!!!!!!! and doesnt use java04:02
elitehackercant i run .exe in kubuntu?04:02
pollyoelitehacker: HAve you used adept to install anything?04:02
Filip^elitehacker: are you trying to run .exe's on linux?04:02
elitehackernope04:02
BluesKajfrostwire sucks anyway04:02
elitehackeri used terminal to install frostwire04:02
elitehackerno its a .deb someone told me only those work04:03
pollyoelitehacker: You said it didn't install.04:03
Filip^you've never used adept manager?04:03
elitehackeryeah not on adept04:03
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pollyoelitehacker: If you would take five minutes to look at adept you would be able to install quite a bit of software without trouble.04:03
elitehackerwhen i type in adpet nothinh comes up but when i do it int terminal it does come up as verifying java then a link comes up ww.java.com04:03
Filip^what type of things do you write in adept?04:04
pollyoelitehacker: No one suggested you type adept in a terminal.  Several people suggested you click the K in the lower corner of your screen.04:04
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danny500HELLO!04:04
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elitehackerbut if i use adept will it install java from another soucre?04:04
danny500God, it's been forever since I've been here lol :)04:05
pollyoelitehacker: How did you come about getting that screen name?04:05
elitehackeri use windws04:05
jack_LjL: how do i need to configure the server in the kdict settings for offline use?04:05
pauljwlol04:05
LjLjack_: i think so, put "localhost" instead of the current server you have04:05
elitehackernow i can use windows like an exprt that partly the reason why i cant use linux04:05
elitehackeri have linux on my xbox but yet when it comes to pc ?04:05
pollyoelitehacker: Ok.  Goodday.04:06
Filip^elitehacker: yes, if you use adept, adept will handle all the additional programs frostwire requires04:06
danny500elitehacker04:06
danny500what your problem?04:06
pollyoAnyone know how to close frostwire?04:06
elitehackeryeah but is it like limewire if i search up java.bin or w.e it wil install04:06
pollyoWhen I attempt to close it the window simply minimizes.04:06
jmichaelxhas anyone else experienced a major problem upgrading to kubuntu feisty beta? i upgraded by changing 'edgy' to 'feisty' in all instances in my sources.list, and doing a dist-upgrade. everything appeared to work, but when i reboot, i wind up getting 'busybox' and no bash. would anyone know whether or not there is still a hope of salvaging this system?04:06
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elitehackeror its serching only installed programs in adept?04:06
danny500go to the Sun Java website lol04:06
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Filip^pollyo: I didn't have that problem just now, but I suppose you could always "killall frostwire" in a terminal04:07
elitehackerhey if u dont know about my problem dont bother helping unless u hear everything i type WAY up there cuz u guys give me links i already know04:07
pollyoFilip^: I do not even see a Frostwire running.04:07
jmichaelxpollyo: sometimes frostwire will not close.... it does more often if you cancel all of your downloads.... you may try just using limewire instead04:07
elitehackerthe only person helping is pollyo04:07
Filip^elitehacker: no, all available programs. Really, read some more about adept04:07
danny500i asked you what your problem was, don't get snippy with me04:07
jack_LjL:  ok, trying if it works offline now, c u tomoro maybe thanks again04:08
Filip^pollyo: you did "ps aux |grep frostwire" and nothing showed up?04:08
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pollyoYes!04:09
elitehackerso i get java.bin file rite the self extracting one now how do i open it up with adept when it wont seld extrat it self in terminal with out a root pass even when i put in sudo ./04:09
pollyojmichaelx: I had to cancel some downloads and it closed.04:09
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Filip^pollyo: so why do you have any reason to think it's still running? Is there a tray icon or something?04:10
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Filip^elitehacker: please, just open adept manager (manage packages) from your start menu04:10
pollyoFilip^: Everytime I clocked close or clicked on the X to close the program it would simply minimize to the bar.04:11
elitehackeri dont understand that04:11
JontyCan OOo spreadsheet do fill down?04:11
pollyoFilip^: After I canceled some downloads that didn't complete it closed without difficulty.04:11
pollyoFilip^: Does frostwire generally show as Frostwire in the processtable?04:12
Filip^pollyo: There's always the "xkill" command. Type it in a terminal, and click the forstwire window04:13
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FuGiTiVo**----//----** http://www.colonessantafe.com.ar/php/modules.php?name=chat04:13
elitehackerwow kubuntu's virtual desktop thing looks very very very fimilar04:13
Filip^pollyo: I must admit I'd never heard of frostwire before today. I just installed to find out what "elitehacker"'s problems were04:13
pollyoFilip^: Oh...Thanks.  That will be useful.04:13
Jontypollyo: Probably as java04:14
Filip^pollyo: It's a great command. In fact, there's a key-combo that does the same. Of course I forgot which one.04:14
elitehackerthen what are my probs?04:14
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Jontypollyo: Use something like ps aux to find out what command was run (like java frostwire.jar or whatever)04:14
elitehackerFilip^: then whats my problems? when i need to install java not frostwire?04:14
elitehackercan u read?04:15
Filip^elitehacker: Did you start the adept manager already?04:15
pollyoelitehacker: You can install these thing using adept (for the most part)04:15
elitehackeryes i had it running like 3hours now04:15
pollyoelitehacker: Adept will install many programs for you.04:15
elitehackerso ure telling me I CAN USE adept to run JAVA.BIN FILES EH?04:15
sinkorswimI'm getting connection timeouts on "host -t mx" for ANY domain. does anyone know what might be causing this?04:15
Filip^elitehacker: when you start adept, do you see a long list of available packages?04:15
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elitehackeri dont need adpet i need terminal to install java04:16
pollyoelitehacker: You can use Adept to install the Sun Java software packages.04:16
blue|palm how do i fix usb devices not being recognised?04:16
Filip^elitehacker: NO, you NEED ADEPT TO INSTALL FROSTWIRE04:16
elitehackeri have tried nothing works?04:16
archangel_everytime I try to play a dvd with kafeine, I get a signal 1104:16
elitehackerit doesnt open up .bin files04:16
Filip^elitehacker: No, it doesn't, it helps you install frostwire the Kubuntu way04:16
elitehackeri DONT HAVE FROST WIRE THANKS04:17
elitehackeri DONT NEED IT RITE NOW04:17
Filip^elitehacker: you then run it by typing frostwire in a terminal, or by choosing frostwire from the menu04:17
elitehackeromg i need java no point getting frost wire when it needs java04:17
Filip^elitehacker: I'm lost. You want to install frostwire, right?04:17
jmichaelxwhat is the path to grub in kubuntu?04:17
elitehackerNO JAVA04:17
elitehackerjava04:17
elitehackerJah,,, EEE veee EH04:18
pollyoIs Frostwire in Adept?  Doesn't Adept also install dependent packages as well?04:18
Filip^it's in /boot/grub. It's mounted by default04:18
jmichaelxFilip^: ty04:18
binkspollyo: yes04:18
Filip^elitehacker: why do you need java?04:18
pollyoIf Elitehacker selects Frostwire from the Adept list doesn't it also install Java runtime?04:18
blue|palmUSB DEVICES DONT WORK04:18
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Filip^pollyo: yes04:18
elitehackeromg why do i need java04:18
elitehackerlol04:18
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elitehackerfunnyest thing all day04:19
blue|palmsorry for shouting... but does ANYONE know what to do if usb devices no longer work...04:19
elitehackerGET NEW USB PORTS04:19
pollyoelitehacker: Is frostwire written in java?04:19
Filip^blue|palm: sorry...04:19
blue|palm:(04:19
elitehackeryes04:19
binksblue|palm: lsusb04:19
Filip^elitehacker: so when you install frostwire, you get java for free!04:19
blue|palmbinks: what do you mean?04:19
elitehackerthats why i need java and not frostwire i dont care about limewire rip offd04:19
elitehackerNO JAVA04:20
elitehackerwhen i have it installed it wont run04:20
blue|palmbinks: I ran it, and they show up04:20
binkswhat do u get from lsusb | blue|palm04:20
elitehackerit needs java04:20
binksso usb is ok what04:20
Filip^elitehacker: did you install frostwire using adept, because then you get java for free04:20
blue|palmbinks: but the flash drives dont...04:20
blue|palmbinks: or external hdd's04:20
elitehackerno i used terminal like the last person was trying to help me with04:20
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binkspastebin lsusb04:20
Filip^elitehacker: if you're on edgy, you could also try automatix04:21
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elitehackerno dont have that04:21
Filip^elitehacker: I understand, but you could install that04:21
pollyoelitehacker: Does Adept say you have frostwire installed?04:21
elitehackeralli need is javawhy is it not installng all i need is a root pass04:21
Filip^elitehacker: root password is the same password you use when logging in04:21
elitehackerno frostwire but yet terminal says i do ??? what happend04:22
elitehackerno its not04:22
elitehackerdiff. pass04:22
Filip^elitehacker: on kubuntu, it is04:22
elitehackernope04:22
Filip^elitehacker: because of the way kubuntu makes use of sudo04:22
pauljwyes it is, use sudo and your login password when prompted elitehacker04:22
elitehackeri did why do u thnk i am hear rite now04:22
elitehackerit says in the link u guys gave me04:22
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elitehackerif i don run sudo u need root pass DIFFRENT from userpass04:23
Filip^elitehacker: frankly, I'm not sure why you're here anymore. What exactly are you trying to accomplish?04:23
Filip^elitehacker: unless you used something like "sudo passwd", the root pass is the same as your userpass.04:23
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pollyoelitehacker: When adept asks for the root password you enter your login name.04:23
Filip^pollyo: (well, not his name, his pass)04:24
masterkhi I need help installing a windows driver04:24
pollyoThank you.04:24
pollyoelitehacker: You enter your password.04:24
elitehackerk all i need is java screw adept i cant use it to install java it says i need terminal04:24
Filip^elitehacker: what do you need java for?04:24
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masterkafter I install the driver and modprobe ndiswrapper it still doesn't detect the wifi card in the wifi manager04:24
blue|palmDoes anybody know where the automount for usb storage media setting is?04:24
pollyoelitehacker: If you want java then you WILL use java.04:25
masterkbut it says the hardware is present in ndiswrapper04:25
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Daisuke_Idomasterk: depmod?04:25
pollyoelitehacker: You will use Adept that is...04:25
pollyoNo sleep is it showing?04:25
Filip^elitehacker: When I installed frostwire just now, I automatically got java to come with it. Maybe your program also auto-installs java. If you use adept, of course04:25
elitehackernow i type in ./JRE-1_5_0_1.....bin and it says  enter root pass type in my user pass sorry access deniend i try it with sudo./jre_1_5_0 it says no such file04:25
elitehackerk tell me the frostwire install?04:25
blue|palmis there any virtual iso mounting software for ubuntu ?04:26
Daisuke_Idoelitehacker: because you forgot _104:26
Filip^place a space between sudo and ./jre04:26
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masterkDaisuke_Ido: what's that?04:26
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Filip^elitehacker: and remeber: linux is case-sensitive04:26
elitehackeri no how to spell it correctly FILIP04:26
Daisuke_Idoand if that's the frostwire install i'm thinking of, it's from automatix, which is the devil04:26
elitehackeri am just giving ex.04:26
pollyoelitehacker: Try this type sudo ./JRE-1_5_0_1....04:26
elitehackeri did04:26
elitehackernothing no file04:26
elitehackertell me the frostwire install04:26
elitehackeri have the file already04:26
elitehackerso now i am opening it up in adept04:27
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Filip^so when you type ls, the file is in the present directory?04:27
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pollyobrb04:27
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Daisuke_Idowth?  you HAVE the file, why would you open it in adept?04:27
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elitehackerk i opened frostwire.deb in adpet it asks for pass i type in now the program is not opeing up04:28
Daisuke_Idoof course it isn't.04:28
Daisuke_Idodpkg -i <deb file>04:28
elitehackersyntax error04:29
elitehackerwhen i type in dpkg -i <deb file>04:29
elitehackerlol04:29
LjLsyntax error?04:29
Daisuke_Idodid you put the name of the deb file in there instead of <deb file>?04:29
elitehackeryes04:29
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LjLwhat error precisely?04:30
SSJ_GZelitehacker: Can you paste *exactly* what you typed here for us?04:30
elitehackerelitehacker@monster:~$ dpkg -i <deb file>04:31
elitehackerbash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'04:31
elitehackerelitehacker@monster:~$ dpkg -i <frostwire-4.13.1.6.i586.deb>04:31
elitehackerbash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'04:31
elitehackerelitehacker@monster:~$04:31
SSJ_GZelitehacker: Get rid of the < and the >04:31
elitehackersee the first one is with out the file name rite04:31
elitehackerthe second isnt04:31
SSJ_GZelitehacker: Also, use sudo04:31
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SSJ_GZelitehacker: sudo dpkg -i frostwire-4.13.1.6.i586.deb04:32
elitehackerelitehacker@monster:~$ dpkg -i frostwire-4.13.1.6.i586.deb04:32
elitehackerdpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege04:32
elitehackerelitehacker@monster:~$04:32
elitehackerelitehacker@monster:~$ dpkg -i frostwire-4.13.1.6.i586.deb04:32
elitehackerdpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege04:32
elitehackerelitehacker@monster:~$04:32
pauljwsorry folks, can't take any more of this.  bbl.  :)04:32
elitehackersorry04:32
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SSJ_GZelitehacker: Use sudo, like I said above :)04:33
Daisuke_Idoelitehacker: use sudo04:33
elitehackerhow sudo ./04:33
elitehackeris that what i type04:33
Daisuke_Idosudo dpkg -i frostwire-4.13.1.6.i586.deb04:33
Filip^elitehacker: I still think you need to use adept. The click-by-click instructions are above. If you want to do it the terminal way, type "sudo dpkg -i frostwire-4.13.1.6.i586.deb"04:33
elitehackerk now it works04:33
pollyoblu|palm: How about kiso?04:33
elitehackerreading database04:33
elitehackernow its unpaking replacemaent frostwire04:34
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elitehackernow that it says setup frostwire and shows the line of my username@pc name : its done?04:34
SSJ_GZelitehacker: Hopefully :)04:35
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elitehackerk now i go into adept04:35
elitehackerk my biggest problem was not using sudo04:35
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elitehackerk i went to open up adept and it closed04:36
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Filip^elitehacker: adept is used for installing programs. Since you just installed, you don't need it anymore04:36
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elitehackerwait it says frostwire is installed rite now waht about the java?04:37
Filip^elitehacker: If the install was succesful, you just need to type frostwire at a terminal04:37
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elitehackerk04:37
pollyoelitehacker: Try typing "frostwire"04:37
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elitehackerOPPS doesnt look like i have java04:37
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elitehackersame thing it sayed before04:38
kaiwhats the name of the cd burning Software I need to get?04:38
Filip^kai: k3b?04:38
SSJ_GZelitehacker: What happens if you just type java and press enter?04:38
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elitehackeri still need java i ? what ppl are saying about they already comes with it04:38
kaithe the cd  burnung software?04:38
kaiI didn't know the name of it04:38
pollyoelitehacker: You have trouble listening friend.04:39
elitehackerto exucute jar file" something about invoke class04:39
elitehackeri just typed it04:39
pollyoelitehacker: People have been telling you if you use Adept to install software it will install required packages.04:39
SSJ_GZelitehacker: What about "which java"04:39
elitehackerso why did u tell me to type in sudo deb file> in terminal then if i can use it in adept wich i cant cuz i wont open .deb files lmao04:40
elitehackerits installed in adept?04:40
pollyoelitehacker: Because you continued to insist on using the terminal after several people suggested you use Adept.04:40
elitehackerwhy dont i have java?04:40
kaiwhat about mpr encoder04:40
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kai...is it abcd?04:40
elitehackeru sayed TYPE IN SUDO <DEBFILE>04:40
SSJ_GZelitehacker: Type "which java" (without the quotes) and tell us what it says, please.04:41
elitehackeri cant open .deb files in adept04:41
elitehackerto invoke CLASS.main, or04:41
elitehacker       gij -jar [OPTION]  ... JARFILE [04:41
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elitehackerso04:42
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elitehackerjava?04:43
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SSJ_GZelitehacker: Are you sured you typed "which" before java?04:43
Filip^elitehacker: perhaps you should understand that, for installing software in kubuntu, you do not need to download it first. That's what adept does for you. So adept doesn't need to open a deb file for you, it will download it's own files.04:44
elitehackerohh04:44
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elitehackercommand not found04:44
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SSJ_GZelitehacker: Ok, try "whereis java"04:44
elitehackerin terminal04:45
elitehackercommand not found04:45
Filip^elitehacker:  don't type " "04:45
Filip^elitehacker: which java04:45
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elitehackeri knwo04:46
elitehackerit says command not found04:46
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Filip^elitehacker: what happens if you just type "which"04:46
elitehackerwait i typed in which lol not wich and cam up usr/bin/java04:47
Filip^elitehacker: yes, I figured as much04:47
Filip^elitehacker: so java is installed then04:47
elitehackerlol somone sayed wich04:47
elitehackeryeah but it wont run frostwire04:48
elitehackerits got java 1.504:48
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Filip^elitehacker: I really appreciate that you try something different from windows, but you should really read up on using Adept. It will handle all of these problems for you.04:48
elitehackeri type in frost wire in termial and it says unable to locatelava04:48
HymnToLife[] !frostwire | elitehacker04:49
ubotuelitehacker: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:49
elitehackeri have frostwire installed what where u guys smokeing when u sayed it will install java for me?04:49
pollyoelitehacker: Try it without the space.04:49
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SSJ_GZelitehacker: You already have java installed.04:49
pollyoelitehacker: One word.04:49
elitehackerno04:49
pollyoelitehacker: "frostwire" not "frost wire"04:50
elitehackerwel tech. i do but i need java04:50
elitehackerlike 604:50
elitehackeri did put frostwire04:50
elitehackerOPPS UNABLE TO LOCATE JAVA04:50
Filip^pollyo: I tried that. it's not his problem, as the error message is "unable to locate java"04:50
elitehackeryes04:50
elitehackerthank u04:50
HymnToLife[] elitehacker, see the link ubotu gave you04:50
elitehackeri need to upgrade JRE1.504:50
elitehackerits already installed04:51
Filip^elitehacker: try " sudo apt-get install frostwire" and see if that'll give you the correct java version04:51
elitehackeri need java04:51
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elitehackernow my password is incorrect04:52
Filip^elitehacker: try again, you probably just made a typo04:52
elitehackerfrostwire is already the newest ver.04:52
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elitehackeri have it installed but no java04:52
elitehackercant i update this kubuntu so i has already java on it?04:53
SSJ_GZelitehacker: You already have java.  I'm not sure if it's a recent enough version, though.04:53
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elitehackerno its JRE1.504:53
elitehackerthe default java that the kubuntu comes with04:54
Filip^elitehacker: "> frostwire is already the newest ver." Is this what the command says?04:54
elitehackeryes04:54
HymnToLife[] SSJ_GZ, how can you tell he already has Java ?04:54
pollyoSSJ_GZ: I 1.6 works with it... Suitable java verson found java = 1.6.004:55
SSJ_GZHymnToLife[] : Because "which java" returns /usr/bin/java04:55
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elitehackerall i need is java which brings me back all the way to the top of this chat04:55
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pollyoSSJ_GZ: Can elitehacker type apt-get install sun-java5*04:56
Filip^elitehacker: Yes, we understood, but adept would've given you the correct java version. It just did for me04:57
elitehackernope 13 permissions denied04:57
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Filip^elitehacker: sudo apt-get install sun-java5*04:57
SSJ_GZpollyo: You forgot the sudo04:57
elitehackerwhen i type in adept04:57
elitehackerno ididnt04:57
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pollyoFilip^SSJ_GZ: Yes04:57
elitehackercouldnt find package04:58
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pollyoelitehacker: In terminal try "sudo apt-get install sun-java5*04:58
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soulriderdamn, he is still trying ot get it installed? =/04:58
elitehackeri did no package04:58
elitehackeryeah04:59
elitehackerthey tell me 8diff things04:59
soulriderwell04:59
soulriderif you had read the links i gave you04:59
elitehackerCOUNLDNT FIND PACKAGE04:59
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soulrideryoul would have gotten it installed already04:59
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elitehackerno04:59
elitehackercuz it doesnt work04:59
elitehackerno java works on my pc idk why04:59
elitehackerits cuz i use windows prb05:00
SSJ_GZHow come frostwire isn't in the repos, anyway? It's Free Software, isn't it?05:00
soulrideruhm..... no05:00
Filip^SSJ_GZ: It is, I just installed it just to see what kind of problems come up. Actually, none came up05:01
elitehackerso i tryed adpet get sun java5 and that didnt work05:01
Filip^SSJ_GZ: Although it may be in the uni or multi05:01
elitehackerdoes x-link kai work on linux?05:01
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elitehackernever mind that would be a headache to install x-link05:01
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SSJ_GZFilip^: Odd - I have all the repos enabled, and apt-cache search frostwire turns up nothing.05:02
SSJ_GZFilip^: I'm using Dapper, though.05:02
Filip^SSJ_GZ: I'm using feisty05:02
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elitehackerso i have a jre-.bin file but yet cant open it up05:02
Filip^SSJ_GZ: Sorry, I meant to say Edgy05:02
SSJ_GZFilip^: Maybe that's why, then.05:02
SSJ_GZFilip^: Heh05:03
elitehackerhow do i install .bin files?05:03
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elitehackerterminal it wont use it it says no file or directory05:03
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SSJ_GZelitehacker: What is the result of "ls *.bin"?05:04
elitehackerwhats that?05:04
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elitehackeri type in sudo ./05:04
vonhow do u add a splashscreen??? i tried to add its in .rc extension05:04
vonbut it just won't appear05:05
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elitehackeryeah i need java05:05
teke!feisty05:05
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) - Feisty will be released after 0:00 UTC of April, 105:05
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NightBird!schedule05:06
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases05:06
sorcerer!killme05:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about killme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:07
sorcerer:D05:07
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mart81why is it that my file permissions are changing when i remount my usbdisk?05:07
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mrigns!ping05:13
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aaroncampbellis there a way to see WHAT package supplies a module?  I need libwfb05:13
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mart81aaroncampbell: apt-cache depends module?05:14
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archangel_I guess I should reinstall to upgrade05:14
archangel_too many issues05:14
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archangel_kaffiene crashes on every dvd05:15
aaroncampbellmart81: it says that libwfb isn't a package05:15
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archangel_composite manager crashes 2ice inless than a minute, so is therefor disables automaticaly05:16
lotusleafhow do I stop ntpd from attempting a blacklisted ipv6 connection?05:16
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jhutchins!ipv6 | lotusleaf05:17
ubotulotusleaf: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv405:17
lotusleafjhutchins, thx I already blacklisted ipv6 though05:17
jhutchinslotusleaf: Applies to all services, not just web.05:17
lotusleafjhutchins, roger that && thx :)05:17
jhutchinslotusleaf: You disabled the modules?05:17
lotusleafjhutchins, yes05:18
lotusleafjhutchins, my daemon.log is filling with attempts05:18
jhutchinsLet me link to my kubuntu box, hang on...05:18
BroxtorI'm trying to get a Hauppage PVR350 tv card to work in kubuntu edgy, but it won't work. I've read that the module /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/ivtv/tuner.ko should be used, but instead /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/drivers/media/video/tuner.ko is used. Does anyone know how I can change that?05:18
von!ksplash05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
lotusleafjhutchins, ipv6 is disabled, I verified that05:18
von!splash05:18
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.05:18
lotusleafthx :)05:18
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vonhow do u change the splash screen for kde??? i mean i d/led one theme05:18
mart81aaroncampbell: i dunno, apt-cache search does not find anything too. Maybe the package had another name in ubuntu? Just guessing.05:18
cs178_aaroncampbell: trusting google it should be part of xorg-server05:18
vonbut its in .rc format and the splash screen won't read05:19
jhutchinslotusleaf: Which release?05:19
lotusleafjhutchins, feisty beta but applies to edgy as well05:19
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pollyoHow do I know if compiz is working?05:19
lotusleafjhutchins, I asked in #ubuntu+1 no response05:19
jhutchinslotusleaf: Ok, I don't have any such thing in my logs for Edgy.  Could you pastebin your /etc/ntp.conf?05:20
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lotusleafjhutchins, ah, you know what? I see it's been updated (the wiki) from the last time I read it, the aliases bit wasn't mentioned before, I didn't follow that step05:21
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pollyoUnder system Settings there is a Splash Screen option.05:21
lotusleafjhutchins, I'll consider this a problem solved and thank you now :)05:21
jhutchinslotusleaf: Are you trying to run this as a server for other machines or just keeping your own time in sync?05:21
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lotusleafjhutchins, it's just for a desktop box w/o a LAN05:22
jhutchinslotusleaf: Cool, let me know if that doesn't fix it and we'll go after it further.05:22
lotusleafjhutchins, I'm sure the aliases bit will fix it05:22
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lotusleafjhutchins, thanks, I appreciate your time and kindness ;)05:22
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aabrahaohi, Im trying to install kubuntu in vnware and the messager appears: screen init failed and tge ~$ appears. What I need to do to install it?05:23
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archangel_planing on a clean install of edgy....... does anyone NOT recommend the 64 bit version?05:23
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archangel_how are the memory config issues (if any)05:24
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dwidmannarchangel_: I've had no issues with the 64-bit version05:25
aabrahaohi, Im trying to install kubuntu in vmware and the messager appears: screen init failed and the ~$ appears. What I need to do to install it05:25
jhutchinsaabrahao: please try #vmware05:25
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jhutchinsarchangel_: The main issues seem to be with multimedia, the lack of 64bit codecs and such.05:26
jhutchinsarchangel_: People have found work-arounds, particularly with the players that don't rely on external codecs.05:26
jhutchinsarchangel_: If you're not dealing with heavy transcoding or huge files, there's no real need for the 64b extesions though.05:27
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chalmerHELP !! i keep getting this Error " 3030" when trying to partition my hdd to install for dual boot config. what does this mesn ?05:29
chalmerHELP !! i keep getting this Error " 3030" when trying to partition my hdd to install for dual boot config. what does this mean ?05:29
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archangel_ohh, I was hoping for some slight speed increases05:30
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chalmerHELP !! i keep getting this Error " 3030" when trying to partition my hdd to install for dual boot config. what does this mean ?05:31
von!theme05:31
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:31
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Tm_Tchalmer: please don't repeat05:31
just-this-time\o05:31
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just-this-timewhat is a dd command to backup mbr?05:32
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just-this-timesplit again??05:32
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archangel_I'm on a giabyte ga-k8nsc-939 capped with a 3400+ and 1 gig of samsung ram.05:32
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dwidmann<archangel_> ohh, I was hoping for some slight speed increases << they're there.05:32
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archangel_dual 250 gig drives05:32
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Betzeferany needs help ?05:33
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anon32nope :-)05:33
vonhelp how do u change the login theme in kubuntu?05:33
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voni can't find theme manager or what05:33
archangel_this machine screems (compaired with M$ especially)05:33
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dwidmannarchangel_: you might want to add more ram .... 64-bit takes more ram to run than 32-bit does.05:33
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archangel_ah, ok05:34
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archangel_I am about to sell my system and build another05:34
dwidmannneato05:34
archangel_I might just put the 32 bit back on here05:34
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chalmerHELP !! i keep getting this Error " 3030" when trying to partition my hdd to install for dual boot config. what does this mean ?05:35
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anon32anyone - can you have dual CPUs of different clock speeds?05:35
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Betzeferanon3205:35
Betzeferi dont think so05:36
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archangel_I have never seen it done05:36
archangel_nor tried05:36
Betzeferi think u need the same clock time05:36
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vonhelp how do u change the login theme in kubuntu?05:36
chalmerHELP !! i keep getting this Error " 3030" when trying to partition my hdd to install for dual boot config. what does this mean ?05:36
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anon32Betzefer, k05:37
archangel_system settings von05:37
knubbehow do i exit crontab? <g>05:37
jhutchinschalmer: WE heard you the first time.  Try entering the complete error in a google search.  Nobody here has an answer for you.05:37
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anon32knubbe, alt + q?05:37
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just-this-timewhy is kmid still a problem05:38
just-this-time!midi05:38
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo05:38
anon32knubbe, oh wait, ctrl + x05:38
jhutchinschalmer: You may get more useful error information by downloading and burning a dedicated qparted CD.05:38
knubbeanon32: nope.05:38
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jhutchinsjust-this-time: Kernel issues with the alsa sound drivers.05:38
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jhutchinsknubbe: crontab -e05:38
knubbeanon32: i think its vi or vim. not pico.05:38
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knubbejhutchins: yea, i got into the file, ive added my lines, but i dont know how to exit :)05:39
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vonI know system settings but nothing there can be found to edit my login theme05:39
jhutchinsknubbe: esc, :wq <enter>05:39
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knubbejhutchins: thanks05:40
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lewixhow do I set up my screen saver05:40
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anon32huh, when I use crontab, it brings up nano05:40
anon32lewix, ...preferences?05:40
jhutchinslewix: Right click, configure desktop05:40
ctotheji need a suggestion as to which ftp server to use. ive read that proftpd and pure-ftpd are good. which should i choose?05:40
knubbejhutchins: actually, that didnt work either :/05:41
ctothejsomething simple though.05:41
jhutchinsknubbe: error, or just stuck?05:41
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jhutchinsctothej: Let me add to the confusion: vsftpd05:42
ctothejjhutchins: you use that one?05:42
lewixthe screen saver on gnome are better05:42
knubbejhutchins: nothing happends. im not sure which editor it is. "Press CTRL-K for help" is the only clue05:42
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ctothejftpd requirements for me are simple to set up and logging capability.05:43
neo_Hey all just tried ubuntu 7 but it doesn't like my mouse, I still can't get sound blaster 16 to work on kubuntu or ubuntu...  UGHHHHH05:43
lewixscreen savers*05:43
neo_Any suggestions05:43
just-this-timemid was built in windows since windows 3.0 199305:43
just-this-time!midi05:43
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo05:43
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neo_trouble with any sound doesn't see my sound card05:44
just-this-timetimidity is not in kubuntu and not in gnome05:44
knubbejhutchins: ah, "CTRL+K X"05:44
just-this-timekmid geets functional only after installing timidity05:44
DarphBobousb storage is not detected.. i have 1gB kingston u3 pen drive.. and a western digital usb hard disk.. none of them is detected05:44
just-this-timeso default installations dont include mid . legalissues ?05:45
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jhutchinsneo_: Feisty support is in #ubuntu+1, all flavors (x, edu, gnome).05:47
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jhutchinsDarphBobo: Which release?05:48
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DarphBobojhutchins, kubuntu edgy05:48
chijinDarphBobo: my WD usb hdd is working just fine :-)05:49
DarphBobojhutchins, it worked fine b4.. but after a reinstalling kubuntu.. it doesn;t work05:49
jhutchinsDarphBobo: Clean install, 32b?05:49
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DarphBobojhutchins, yes05:49
hyper_chhiho, anyone knows how I can rip a dvd into xvid and have multiple languages available?05:50
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morvok_has anyone used the Debian-Xen template?05:50
jhutchinsDarphBobo: tail -f /var/log/messages in a console, see what happens when you disconnect and reconnect.05:51
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DarphBobojhutchins, no change05:52
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dugI have a question I was using dapper live cd, then downloaded the dvd version of edgy eft. While using dapper my wireless card worked fine, but upon switching to edgy and installing it my wireless care sees networks but will not connect it is a netgear wg511t. Im wondering where i can find information on how to fix this problem05:53
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DarphBobojhutchins, i know it's not a hardware problem caz if i boot to winxp it works fine.. usb slot and the pen drive05:55
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dennis_dug, I don't realy know, but quite a lot of people have problems using their wireless card in edgy...maybe you better wait till the final release of feisty in two weeks....05:55
david_dug: type the following into a terminal "sudo apt-get install linux-restrcited-modules"05:55
jhutchinsDarphBobo: what does uname -r say?05:56
DarphBobo2.6.17-11-generic05:56
DarphBobojhutchins, 2.6.17-11-generic05:56
jhutchinsDarphBobo: Yeah, that's what I've got.  2.6.20 is supposed to solve some USB storage issues...05:57
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dugi typed that in david05:57
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just-this-time!gl05:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:57
jhutchinsDarphBobo: You should be seeing the USB connect message though.05:58
just-this-time!xgl05:58
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:58
jhutchinsDarphBobo: do the lights on the drive blink at all?05:58
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just-this-timewhat is the factoid for intel 3d driver05:58
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DarphBobojhutchins, the light works.. the power led.. how ever on first read the red led should blink.. but it does not after this reinstall05:58
just-this-time!intel05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
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just-this-time!video05:59
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications05:59
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Hc\\umm05:59
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Hc\\how can i install an .exe file t hats loaded?05:59
jhutchinsjust-this-time: determine your exact chipset (lspci) and broaden your search to google.06:00
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jhutchinsHc\\: WHat's it supposed to be?06:00
Hc\\drivers for my graphic card06:00
jhutchinsDarphBobo: Do you have a different set of USB ports (my PC has three sets of two)?06:01
jhutchinsHc\\: Won't work.  An .exe file means that it's meant for windows.06:01
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jhutchins!ati | Hc\\06:01
ubotuHc\\: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:01
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DarphBobojhutchins, i got a Gigabyte-PLS3 MB.. it's got 4 ports on the back.. and m using the two front usb  too06:02
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jhutchinsjust-this-time: We don't seem to have anything on the intel 3d stuff yet.  I believe it uses aiglx.06:02
just-this-timek jhutchins ty06:02
just-this-time!aiglx06:02
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.06:02
Hc\\jhutchins file name is ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86.run06:02
jhutchinsDarphBobo: It's just that it doesn't seem to be detecting the connections at all.06:02
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jhutchinsHc\\: See the howto above and follow it step-by-step.06:02
Hc\\k06:03
DarphBobojhutchins, yeah seems the case.. googleing also didn't give me a solution06:03
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neil__hey guys.. im running nvidia drivers, and I have a 7800GT.. it shows as direct rendering: enabled06:03
neil__but 3d acceleration seems slow...06:03
neil__ie glxgears for an example..06:03
DarphBobojhutchins, i'll boot to 2.6.17-10 and see if it works06:03
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neil__if direct rendering is enabled, is that a sign everything is fine? or could there be driver issues..06:03
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jhutchinsDarphBobo: If you find a solution, please post it to the forums or somewhere.06:03
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jhutchinsWEll, kubuntu has been booting on my old IBM 380Z laptop for a good fifteen minutes so far.  Looks like I'll be abandoning that plan.06:05
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GreshPHi guys ... I had ubuntu installed, then added the kubuntu meta-package ... is there any difference between this approach and a straight kubuntu install?06:07
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jhutchinsGreshP: Shouldn't be, except you have all of the gnome stuff installed, and some of the defaults will be to gnome packages instead of kde.06:08
abattoirGreshP: installed 'kubuntu-desktop' ?06:08
GreshPOk. Yes that package then caused a mass of dependencies to install06:09
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h0axhell i have downloaded a theme for kubuntu and its installed but i do not know were to activate the theme06:10
h0axhello*06:10
GreshPSomehow after flicking to KDM I was getting screen lock ups, now back on GDM everything seems fine and KDE is working fine too06:10
GreshPAny issues running GDM and KDE? Or will I be ok06:10
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fdovingGreshP: you won't get the kmenu -> logout -> reboot, hibernate, shutdown, etc. options. you'll only get 'logout'.06:11
dennis_GreshP, not really...maybe if you only use one Gnope program its not really worth it having all the dependencies06:12
dennis_Gnome06:12
fdovingGreshP: and you won't get the kmenu -> switch user functionality.06:12
h0axhello i have downloaded a theme for kubuntu and its installed but i do not know were to activate the theme06:12
GreshPOk. I think I can live with those things. Many thanks guys06:13
GreshPFeisty is awesome btw. Very impressed!06:13
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dennis_the beta is really stable06:13
rcmayorYes it is, just installed 7.04 the other day. Finally WPA Wireless works...06:13
rcmayornow if I could get wine to run Full Tilt Poker I would be able to make through every day.06:15
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GreshPOn my laptop I've found fiesty to be more stable than edgy. Suddenly bluetooth works!06:19
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ContrastDoes anybody have any idea what the difference between two user accounts might be that's causing the screensaver to just turn the screen all black on one account and not the other?06:19
GreshPand brightness and... and ... It's a great job06:19
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h0axcan anyone help ?06:20
ContrastGreshP, did you upgrade or do a clean install?06:20
GreshPI did an upgrade through Synaptic ... just left it running all night06:20
h0axsorry if anyone answered my question .... my internet died06:21
h0axbut06:21
h0axi have downloaded a theme for kubuntu and its installed but i do not know were to activate the theme06:21
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ContrastGreshP, how long ago?06:21
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GreshPAbout two days on the laptop06:22
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ContrastHmm06:22
M1AUo/ can anyone tell me if there's an KDE option to change the name of my computer?06:23
Hc\\lol06:23
M1AUif there's no graphical option where can I change it?06:23
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Hc\\make sure that fglrx is not denied06:23
Hc\\but it is06:23
ContrastI put Edgy on my friend's computer about a month ago (their first Linux distro), and I'm trying to find out whether it's safe to upgrade them to Feisty yet. I know a lot of people had problems when upgrading from Dapper to Edgy.06:23
Hc\\so how can i get it allowed?06:23
fdovingM1AU: no graphical option as far as i know. you need to change it in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts06:23
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M1AUfdoving: thx alot!06:24
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fdovingM1AU: it's very very important that the hostname set in /etc/hostname matches the name in /etc/hosts06:24
M1AUI see06:24
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GreshPOh the upgrade was not so smooth, I did hit quite a few issues06:25
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billytwowillylol. Feisty isn't out yet, so I wouldn't upgrade someone who isn't into beta testing until it's out for a couple weeks.06:25
just-this-timehow do I chk my xorg server version?06:26
fdovingjust-this-time: 'X -version' in a konsole.06:26
GreshPNetwork starting loading loads of interfaces and timing out on boot up, vmware stopped working, cisco vpnclient stopped working06:26
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just-this-timefdoving: tyvm06:26
Contrastbillytwowilly: Bad wording on my part. I meant after it's officially released.06:26
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billytwowillythe party line will be it's safe to upgrade once it's released;)06:27
GreshPYeah I agree with billytwowilly.06:27
just-this-timeX Window System Version 7.1.106:27
just-this-timehttp://wiki.x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver?highlight=%28intel%2906:27
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billytwowillyI updated a week ago and it went fine. I'm having a problem with konqueror, but that's it. My location toolbar dissapears after I open a second konqueror window and doesn't come back.06:27
jhutchinsbillytwowilly: Edgy will continue into Long Term Support, and is likely to be more stable for some time yet.  I wouldn't push a non-techie into the new version just for bells and whistles.06:28
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GreshPFor me, this fujitsu was having more issues with edgy than I now have with Feisty ... in fact I only have a problem with KDM and I'm having to use GDM right now06:29
Contrastjhutchins: How do you mean? Edgy's not an LTS release.06:29
jhutchinsbillytwowilly: If there's some critical app he needs, or critical hardware support, yeah.06:29
billytwowillyhey, is feisty going to be supported long tern too, or will the LTS release be every couple releases?06:29
ContrastI believe LTS releases only come once every three years.06:29
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jhutchinsContrast: We'll have to see what level of support it gets after Feisty comes along.  Part of it will be what percentage upgrade and what percentage stick with edgy.06:30
jhutchinsWon't matter at all if Feisty's official but everybody's still running edgy, for instance.06:30
Hc\\damn06:31
Hc\\i cant get it installed06:31
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chalmerGOD , lol i just lost my windows partition trying to do a frigg'n dual boot w/ kubuntu06:32
jsgotangcowhat the current LTS needs is a re-spin :)06:32
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[miles] guys, which channel for kubuntu fesity beta Q's please?06:32
billytwowilly #kubuntu-devel I thinkl06:33
[miles] thanks billytwowilly06:33
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jhutchins#ubuntu+1 for feisty06:33
[miles] jhutchins: kubuntu also?06:33
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jhutchins[miles] : NOT devel06:33
jhutchins[miles] : Yes, all flavors06:33
[miles] ok, many thanks06:33
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Contrast[miles] : #ubuntu+106:34
GreshPmiles you may also want to look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/8471706:35
ContrastOh, whoops06:35
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enryhi06:35
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Yorokobihuzzah! I got Beryl to work with feisty06:36
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lewixI want to install the flash plugin06:36
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lewixfor konqueror06:36
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Yorokobilewix, try gnash06:37
lewixwhat's the procedure06:37
lewixYorokobi, gnash?06:37
chalmerwhat format do i need to use for kubuntu "ext2" or "ext3" ?06:37
Yorokobichalmer, either06:37
jhutchinschalmer: ext3 is preferred06:37
Yorokobiext3 is preferr ... ^^06:37
chalmerok06:38
jhutchinschalmer: More reliable.  If absolute speed is necessary, ext2.06:38
Yorokobilewix, yep, gnash. A free Flash player. There's a browser plugin package as well06:38
chalmerext2 " it is06:38
lewixYorokobi, can you be more clear please06:38
Yorokobilewix, use synaptic/dselect/adept and search for gnash or klash06:39
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chalmeri left 60 gigs raw free on my hdd. will that b ok06:39
lewixYorokobi, can I do that on the command line?>06:40
chalmer4 tha install?06:40
Yorokobilewix, or you can install libflash-mozplugin, flashplugin-nonfree06:40
Yorokobilewix, you can apt-get those, yes06:40
jhutchins!mp3 | lewix06:40
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jhutchinschalmer: I'd think twice about ext3.  3 is 2 with journaling, much more likely to recover from a crash or shut-down.06:41
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jhutchinschalmer: If you loose power wiht ext2, recovery procedure is reformat, restore backup.06:41
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Yorokobichalmer, jhutchins you can configure ext3 for speed comparable to ext2 but you loose some of the benefits of the default journaling06:41
chalmer<jhutchins> so u prefer ext2?06:41
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chalmer<jhutchins> what ever works best is good enough 4 me06:42
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jhutchinschalmer: The speed difference is minute, only measurable in extreme benchmarks and heavy IO processing (rendering major video projects for commercial studios, etc.)06:43
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chalmer<jhutchins> so u say to go w/ ext2 for reliability in over all06:45
jhutchinschalmer: No, ext3.06:45
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chalmer<jhutchins> ok ty06:45
GreshPFor best disk IO I use ext3 for all the 'safe' files and xfs for high speed on VMWare files, of which I have backups06:45
jhutchinschalmer: ext3 essentially has a way to recover changes made but not written to the disk.06:45
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chalmer<jhutchins> k06:46
jhutchinschalmer: I would use ext3 for all normal installations.06:46
Kubuntuy'a un francias ici?06:46
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chalmer<jhutchins> k06:46
jhutchins!fr | Kubuntu06:46
ubotuKubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:46
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chalmer<jhutchins> yea im haveing to do a ghost restore , b/c i did tha partitions for kubuntu wrong and lost my windows partition06:49
just-this-time\o again06:49
just-this-timefor the 1 time I have a VT technology equipped intel 965wh board06:49
jhutchinschalmer: YAY!  You were smart and had a backup!06:49
just-this-timeand would like to try complete virtualization06:49
just-this-timedual boot here06:50
chalmer<jhutchins> :)06:50
just-this-timeanyone using VM  ( XEN, VMWARE MS Virtual ) with INTEl VT technology ?06:51
GTdo someone speak spanish?06:51
just-this-time!es06:51
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:51
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just-this-timeesta bien GT ?06:51
GTkubuntu-es no responde06:51
just-this-timey que le puedes hacer ?06:51
just-this-timedespiertalos06:52
GTdigo que nadie responden en #kubuntu-es06:52
GTbueno, despertarelos06:52
GTgracias igual06:52
just-this-timenow switch to english06:52
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busfahrerExcuse me, is it possible to get konqueror not to thumbnail the first frame of a movie, but instead one from the middle? (like Nautilus does)06:53
chalmer<jhutchins> but this time when i deleted all the partition on my hdd useing windows install disk. i resized the 250 gig down to a 180 gig partition for windows and left tha 30 something gigs raw . free for kubuntu install06:53
just-this-timewhere is session startup setup in kde pls ?06:54
jhutchinschalmer: Make sure you do vfat, not ntfs on the windows part.06:54
jhutchinsjust-this-time: What are you trying to configure?06:54
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just-this-timehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy#head-793d6ee7eb031a42185b9a87913540d396e3f28f explains only gnome06:54
just-this-timeberyl06:54
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GTi've a tp-link wn321g usb and festy fawn beta06:55
GTthis wireless usb don't work06:55
just-this-timeI must restart X first I guess06:55
jhutchins!beryl | just-this-time06:55
ubotujust-this-time: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:55
just-this-timebbl tyvm jhutchins06:55
just-this-timeexit06:55
jhutchinsGT: This may help:06:56
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jhutchins!wireless | GT06:56
ubotuGT: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:56
cerituscan anyone help me get a midi file to play?06:56
GTyes, i found the Ndiswrapper06:56
GTbut yesterday i take off bluetooth services06:56
chalmer<jhutchins> gosh durn it.  ive already about done w/ the ghost restore and i did it n 180 gig NTFS and left the 30 gig partition raw06:57
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jhutchinschalmer: That's ok, ntfs support is pretty solid these days, ntfs-3g is supposed to be the way to go.06:57
chalmer<jhutchins> so i need to go back and redo tha windows partition in vfat instead of ntfs?06:57
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jhutchinschalmer: You don't have to.06:58
chalmer<jhutchins> lol06:58
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busfahrerExcuse me, is it possible to get konqueror not to thumbnail the first frame of a movie, but instead one from the middle? (like Nautilus does)06:58
chalmer<jhutchins> u scared me06:58
jhutchinschalmer: There are a very few NTFS versions that fail if written to by Linux.  Unfortunately, the only way to know is to loose all your data.06:58
GTthanks a lot. its so hard for me speak english06:58
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cerituscan anyone help me get a midi file to play?06:59
jhutchinschalmer: Since you have a backup, go ahead and use the Linux NTFS support.06:59
jhutchinschalmer: If it doesn't work, restore to vfat.06:59
chalmer<jhutchins> lol like i just did06:59
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jhutchinschalmer: Right, but chances are you won't have to.07:00
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chalmer<jhutchins> lol... hopefully this time kubuntu will reconize tha raw partition for tha install07:00
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jhutchinschalmer: Hope so.  I always seem to end up partitioning manually.  For one thing, I like all my space to be pooled except for swap.07:02
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busfahrerExcuse me, is it possible to get konqueror not to thumbnail the first frame of a movie, but instead one from the middle? (like Nautilus does)07:04
jhutchinsbusfahrer: I'm sure it is, but you'd have to delve pretty far into konqueror.  I would see if anybody knows about it in #kde or #kde-devel07:04
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cerituscan anyone help me get a midi file to play?07:08
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rockergurlHi, I installed some icons... I was wondering were do i put the file?07:09
tulio__!mp307:09
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jhutchinsceritus: Check the above pages, particularly common-tasks-chap.html07:10
jhutchinsceritus: Actually, better to start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo07:10
just-this-timeanyone posted succesfully to picasaweb.google.com from ubuntu ?07:10
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rockergurlIs there a icon folder that I put the new icon folder in?07:11
ceritusthanks07:11
just-this-timeceritus copy this >>  sudo apt-get install timidity07:12
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rockergurl?07:12
ceritusi've just used adept manager to install timidity07:12
lewixI installed klash and I can't still see streaming videos07:13
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jhutchinslewix: Did you follow the procedures on the web pages we sent you to?07:15
lewixno what was the website again, I just did what one of you told me too...go to adept find kash and install it07:15
jhutchinsrockergurl: Sorry, don't know.  There should be instrctions either in the file you downloaded or on the web site you got it from.07:16
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jhutchins!mp3 | lewix07:16
ubotulewix: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:16
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rockergurlcan anyone help me?07:17
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ErunnoHi all :) Quick question: How do I get rid of the bookmark toolbar permanently ? The "safe profile" menu entry is greyed out :-/07:19
mrigns!ask | rockergurl07:20
uboturockergurl: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:20
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ceritusthanx got it workin07:22
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rockergurlUbotu: I've downloaded icons and I'm not sure where to put them07:23
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rockergurlmrigns:I've downlaoded icons and im not sure where to put them07:24
mrignsare they packed?07:24
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rockergurlthey're in a folder07:24
rockergurlIt downloads and theres a pack on my desktop07:25
rockergurltgz07:25
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mrignsu can add the tgz via the icon options07:25
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rockergurlhow would i do this?07:25
mrignsstart the system settings07:26
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The_Untiledu can learn me how to format a ntfs to ext3??07:26
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lavidThe_Untiled: do you want to FORMAT? or do you want to transfer your data?07:26
lavidThe_Untiled: because those are very, very different things07:27
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nosrednaekimdid ya'll know that Microsoft just bought out Linspire?07:27
MrCr4cKhello07:27
lavidhahaha07:27
lewixE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse07:27
lavidnosrednaekim: yeah, check the date07:27
The_Untiledi want to eliminate the ntfs partition and trasform it in ext3 for hoem use...07:27
nosrednaekimI already did....07:28
nosrednaekimlooks like you did too07:28
lavidnosrednaekim: good, just making sure07:28
rockergurlmrigns: Btw, Im in ubuntu.. where would I go after systems07:28
lewixyour link didnt help me man07:28
lavidnosrednaekim: i like how all the /. articles are tagged OMGPONIES07:28
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mrignsrockergurl: so u use gnome? let me think. u can drag an drop the tgz in the theme manager07:29
mrignsafair07:29
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nosrednaekimlavid: yeah...I I just died on the Google TiOS07:29
lavidThe_Untiled: well, you need to mount the ntfs drive in linux, and transfer the data to a spare drive, format the drive you want to convert and then move the data. that's the best way i know of... anyone have a better one?07:30
mrigns!ntfs07:30
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:30
lewixlol I didt it once and it was one simple command. now I don't know what do I have to install all thoses packages07:30
rockergurlmrigns: theme manager?  theres a themes... i tryed doing that but nothing happened07:31
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MirrakorIs it possible that someone insert his install cd, and can set up a ssh server, so that I can access it and do the text-mode-install from remote?07:32
mrignstry asking in #ubuntu. i think they would know better using gnome07:32
mrignstype /j #ubuntu07:32
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Mirrakoruhm, but I want to do it remote via ssh, so I don't need gnome at all07:33
rockergurlThank you!07:33
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The_Untiledi've alredy transferred file  from this partition but now I want to delete tis and format in ext3 but i don't know how...07:33
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wilmanhey poeple07:34
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ubotuwilman: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:35
wilmani have a question about audacity, i want to record and playback at the same time but when i do that there is a big lagg in the sound. it hicks all the time. and when recording is done, nothing is recorded07:36
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The_Untiledi must to go...bye07:37
principo_hallo??07:37
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everbledoes anyone know how to open a bin file?  I download a hugh file and it is a bin file.  Not executable07:39
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lavideverble: what does the output of "file YOURFILE.bin" give?07:42
brujothe bin file does't open07:42
mrignseverble: ./file07:42
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brujoit es execute,  $ chmod 755 <file>07:42
everblehow do i uncompress a bin file07:42
mrignsyou cant07:42
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mrignsits like a *.exe in windows07:43
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everblethanks mrigns07:43
mrignsnp07:43
lewixlol07:45
lewixI didn't do anything07:45
lewixthe kde wizard came to me07:45
lewixand installed it07:45
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josh__o.o07:46
Mirrakorkubuntu sets up a graphical environment before installing?07:47
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nosrednaekimMirrakor: yes...kubuntu is a liveCD07:48
Mirrakorcool, does it already set up stuff like network ?07:48
nosrednaekimyes07:49
everblehow do i extract a cue file?07:49
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nosrednaekimso you can test it everything works07:49
Mirrakorso it is possible to start an sshd?07:49
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lewixhehe07:50
lewixI don't even know what package it installed but it works07:50
nosrednaekimMirrakor: it automatically runs the ssh client, but not the server07:51
Mirrakorhuh, what sense does this make?07:51
Mirrakorwhere does this ssh client connect to?07:51
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jado@find finite element07:53
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nosrednaekimMirrakor: to any ssh server07:55
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lewixhow do I run the benchmark ?07:56
busfahrerExcuse me, what package does include the kde header files?07:56
Mirrakornosrednaekim: but a ssh server is installed?07:56
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brujoMirrakor, not by default07:57
Mirrakorapt-get install sshd?07:57
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YorokobiMirrakor, agt-get install openssh-server07:58
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kaiSoftware Question: whats the name of the Cd-imagging software?08:01
aaroncampbellIs there a kubuntu Feisty equivalent to yum whatprovides modulename08:01
kaiits like daemon tools irght08:01
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kaiOr doens any one know the names of cd imagginf software08:03
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kaiI wanna make a copy of Marvel v Capcom and put it up on torrent08:03
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Yorokobiaaroncampbell, are you looking for something that will show you dependencies?08:05
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aaroncampbellI need a library (libwfb), and I want to know what package provides it08:06
aaroncampbellIt SEEMS like it would be in the xorg server (from what I can tell from Google), but I don't seem to have it08:07
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philphotodoes the OS gain a "memory" of pages and applications that have been opened?  the reason i'm asking is that on first starting an app, it is very slow, but afterwards the apps or pages speed up much faster.08:07
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wolferinephilphoto it depends on alot of things08:08
philphotowell, I'm back to my computer being way slow.08:08
Filip^aaroncampbell: could it be that the library is installed, but in the wrong location?08:09
wolferineare you running lots of services?08:09
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wolferinehow much RAM do you have08:09
philphoto3+ gb08:09
wolferineand lots of services?08:09
wolferineberyl?08:09
philphotonno beryl08:09
wolferineand?08:09
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aaroncampbellFilip^: modprobe -l | grep -i wfb returns nothing, as does sudo locate libwfb08:10
philphotoI don't knnow. I mean, I have the stock kubuntu desktop with a few extra apps installed08:10
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wolferinethere is an optimization post in the forums, you can look for it in the Ubuntu Guide08:11
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wolferinebut you can view your processes by typing 'sudo ps -A'08:11
wolferinethat will list all that are running08:12
SSJ_GZphilphoto: Apps and many of the files they need are usually loaded into the system cache.  The cache is not fixed, though, and things will be unloaded if the kernel thinks that your RAM can be put to better use.08:12
neil__Linux is using 1.5gb of my 2gb ram currently, running nothing08:13
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neil__quite shocked!08:13
philphotoextras: gimpshop, xsane08:13
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philphotowell, either way my computer is still slow08:14
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Yorokobiphilphoto, have you used top to see what is using your CPU time? What is your load average at ?08:16
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EruditeH1rmithi, can anyone tell me what the name of the icon zoom effect when an icon is clicked is and what you need to make it work?08:17
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philphoto335196k used08:17
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YorokobiEruditeH1rmit, right click your panel, select Configure Panel ... click on Appearance and put a check mark on Enable icon mouseover effects08:18
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chalmerman....... i finally got kubuntu partition to do a daul boot w/ windows08:19
EruditeH1rmitYorokobi: not the panel effects, the effects when you say click an icon on the desktop. Is that controlled by the panel?08:20
chalmerafter 6 hours of head ache and fustration08:20
compilerwritercongrats chalmer08:20
YorokobiEruditeH1rmit, ah, no. I'd have to look for that option08:20
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compilerwriterNow go have belt of your favourite double malt.08:21
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chalmerlol... yea now im ready to drink a tidy :)08:21
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chalmerim glad that i back-up my c:/ windows w/ ghost first. lol... b/c i did end up loseing my windows partition in tha process08:23
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chalmeri gave kubuntu 30 gig of space and tha swap 500 mb. does that sound correct?08:25
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Yorokobichalmer, how much RAM do you have?08:25
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chalmer512 dual channel08:25
h0axhello im trying to install a program on kubuntu and cam across with this error " configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check08:26
Yorokobichalmer, Are you using Kubuntu as a desktop system? developer system? server?08:26
chalmerdesktop08:26
Yorokobichalmer, you should be okay08:26
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chalmerty08:26
Yorokobih0ax, /lib/cpp is a newer version than the one expected by the configure script08:26
Yorokobi(usually)08:26
h0axhow do i fix the problem ?08:27
chalmerit just ran to darn slow on my P3 computer .   so i did a dual boot with my speedy comp08:27
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Yorokobih0ax, check the program's webpage/wiki/forums and find out which version it is expecting then install it from the repos and then re-link /lib/cpp to the older version (if that is what the problem is)08:28
chalmershould run alot faster now08:28
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chalmer:)08:28
h0axtrying to install superkaramba =/08:29
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h0axyou know any appz like it ?08:29
ubuntu_hey guys08:29
Yorokobih0ax, sudo apt-get install superkaramba08:29
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Yorokobithere is no need to build it from source08:29
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h0axReading package lists... Done08:30
h0axBuilding dependency tree... Done08:30
h0axE: Couldn't find package superkaramba08:30
h0axh0ax@h0ax-laptop:~$08:30
aaroncampbellIs there a kubuntu Feisty equivalent to yum whatprovides modulename08:30
aaroncampbellI need a library (libwfb), and I want to know what package provides it08:30
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Xcaliburhey I have two HDD's, with windows installed on the biggesst one, can I install kubuntu on the other one, then use Grub to load either?08:30
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Yorokobih0ax, do you have the universe repository enabled in your sources.list?08:31
h0axi dunno mate .... i dont know very much bout linux08:31
Xcalibur?08:31
Yorokobih0ax, do you use adept or synaptic for your package manager ?08:31
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h0axadept08:31
YorokobiXcalibur, if there's enough free/raw disk space on the other drive, yes.08:32
Xcaliburit's a 7.34 GB, is that enough?08:32
Yorokobih0ax, 1 sec08:32
h0axty08:32
YorokobiXcalibur, is that the drive's total size or the amount of free/raw space remaining?08:32
Xcaliburand will Grub allow me to load from either HDD?08:33
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Filip^Xcalibur: yes on all counts08:33
Xcalibur?08:33
Xcaliburo08:33
Xcaliburok08:33
Yorokobih0ax, open adept, click on View then manage repositories08:34
Xcaliburanything special I need to do, or wil this live CD have all those options selected for me?08:34
Edulixhi08:34
Edulixin last ubuntu feisty update I lost sound08:34
Edulix00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)08:34
h0axall i got in veiw is "review changes"08:34
Edulixthat's my device08:34
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XcaliburI'll brb08:34
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Yorokobih0ax, did it ask for your sudo/root password before it started?08:35
h0axyeh08:35
Yorokobiodd08:35
h0axhold on08:35
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Yorokobiheh, h0ax are you using edgy or feisty?08:35
h0axummm dunno lol08:36
Admiral_ChicagoEdulix: #ubuntu+1 if you need hep with Feisty08:36
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Yorokobih0ax, in Adept, try the menu option "Adept" and Manage repositories08:36
chalmer<yorokobi> ?08:37
h0axnot there mate08:37
chalmer<yorokobi> ?08:38
Yorokobih0ax, okay ... I'm not familiar enough with adept ... how are your text editing skills ?08:38
Yorokobichalmer, yes?08:38
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h0axnaf mate08:38
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Yorokobih0ax, well, hit Alt-F2 then type kdesu nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:39
chalmerok when tha grub shows tha os's to chose from to boot into. can i change the order of the loader to automaticly  boot into windows instead of ubuntu as default?08:40
h0axodd i did it then it asked for me pass ... then nothing came up08:40
Yorokobichalmer, probably but I've not tried it08:40
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chalmer<yorokobi> ok08:41
Yorokobih0ax, me too, when I tried it08:41
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h0ax=/08:41
Yorokobih0ax, do you have synaptic installed?08:41
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h0axwhere would it be located ?08:41
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YorokobiKmenu -> System08:42
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h0axummm no i dont08:42
chalmerHelp !!  anyone ..ok when tha grub shows tha os's to chose from to boot into. can i change the order of the loader to automaticly  boot into windows instead of ubuntu as default?08:42
Yorokobi!grub | chalmer08:42
ubotuchalmer: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:42
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Yorokobih0ax, try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list in konsole (or other terminal window)08:43
h0axim in but its empty08:44
Yorokobih0ax, it shouldn't be08:45
h0axit is =/08:45
Yorokobih0ax, Use Ctrl-X to exit nano, then 'cd /etc/apt' then us 'ls' to get a list of files08:46
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h0axh0ax@h0ax-laptop:~$ cd /ect/apt08:47
h0axbash: cd: /ect/apt: No such file or directory08:47
Yorokobih0ax,  /etc not /ect08:47
h0axlol08:47
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h0axmy bad08:47
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h0axh0ax@h0ax-laptop:/etc/apt$ ls08:48
h0axapt.conf    secring.gpg   sources.list.d  trusted.gpg08:48
h0axapt.conf.d  sources.list  trustdb.gpg     trusted.gpg~08:48
Yorokobih0ax, k, sudo nano sources.list08:48
Yorokobiyou can use the Tab key to auto-complete sources<tab>08:48
h0axgot loadsa text08:48
h0axwat i do now :S08:49
w30I have downloaded two dirrerent iso images of feisty kubuntu live-install dvd images but when I go to burn them I get an error that ithe image is too big for my blank dvd disks. I tried different brand disks and different iso's; still same.  Help?08:49
Yorokobih0ax, excellent. At the end of the lines that begin with deb and deb-src you should have "main restricted" anything else?08:49
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h0axthere is nothing else08:49
h0ax# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe08:50
h0axthats the last line08:50
Yorokobih0ax, I meant at the end of the lines.08:50
w30My du -h command gives me 4.4 gig and the disk label says 4.7 gib08:50
Yorokobih0ax, alternatively, find the lines that have #deb and #deb-src that end with universe and multiverse and remove the #08:50
h0axok done08:51
Yorokobiw30, are you using a blank DVD+/-R? du should not return a value for a blank disc (so far as I know, I could be wrong :) )08:51
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Yorokobih0ax, okay. Use Ctrl-X then Y to save and exit08:52
h0axok08:52
Yorokobih0ax, you'll have to press Enter to save the file as well08:52
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w30Yorokobi: sorry du -h was done on the iso file, I did not make that clear.08:52
w30my bad08:52
h0axdone08:53
Yorokobiat the prompt, type sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install superkaramba08:53
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Yorokobiw30, what burning program are you using?08:53
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h0axFetched 3B in 0s (4B/s)08:54
h0axReading package lists... Done08:54
h0axh0ax@h0ax-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install superkaramba08:54
h0axReading package lists... Done08:54
h0axBuilding dependency tree... Done08:54
h0axE: Couldn't find package superkaramba08:54
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shanky-I have a problem with kubuntu-edgy08:54
w30Yorokobi: k3b, the kde one. I have had success in the past with the program for other dvd iso's08:54
shanky-I can't start kde08:54
Yorokobih0ax, let me check the dapper packages to see if superkaramba is included08:54
h0axalright08:54
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shanky-the only error I have in /var/log/messages is08:56
shanky-Apr  1 22:53:08 lolo-laptop kernel: [17180222.188000]  mtrr: 0xdc000000,0x4000000 overlaps existing 0xdc000000,0x200000008:56
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w30Yorokobi: every iso for feisty kubuntu seems to have a different md5sum, however they do match their respective md5sum text file on the download directory that each is in.08:57
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Yorokobiw30. not sure what to tell you ... try the CD maybe ?08:57
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YorokobiIt'll take me a while to d/l the DVD ISO and try it myself :)08:58
aaroncampbellIs there a kubuntu Feisty equivalent to yum whatprovides modulename08:58
aaroncampbellI need a library (libwfb), and I want to know what package provides it08:58
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h0axYorokobi: ya got em ?08:59
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Yorokobih0ax, the package list takes a minute to load ... and superkaramba is part of the universe repo for dapper. You should be able to get it09:00
w30Yorokobi: yep the cd works but I can only find install cds, not a live boot cd.09:00
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h0axYorokobi:  ill brb im gettin a bath  ... ill give ya a shout when im back09:01
Yorokobiw30, http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso09:01
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Yorokobih0ax, if I'm still here, I'll be happy to help09:01
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w30Yorokobi: I never thought about a beta, thanks for the tip.09:02
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Yorokobiw30, feisty is *only* in beta09:03
w30Yorokobi: Ha, try the google toilet tcp/ip connection while you are in there.09:03
YorokobiI'm not bathing, h0ax  is09:03
ubuntu_hola09:03
w30Yorokobi: great thanks09:03
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w30Yorokobi: opps bifocals splitting lines again, It's hell to get old. Hearing is helped by turning up the speakers. Hehe09:04
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ubuntu_alguien que hable espaol me puede ayudar con la instalacion de kubuntu?09:05
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Yorokobi!en | ubuntu_09:07
ubotuubuntu_: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat09:07
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Yorokobihaha09:07
lavidubuntu_: entre en !kubuntu-es09:07
Yorokobi!es | ubuntu_09:07
ubotuubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:07
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ubuntu_gracias09:07
w30Does dd if=/dev/hdc  of=mycdimage.iso create an iso that a burner can use for duplicating a disk?09:08
Yorokobiubuntu_, de nada09:08
Yorokobiw30, it looks like it should work. if /dev/hdc is your CD/DVD drive09:09
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w30Yorokobi: yes09:10
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MetaBookfoziShi all09:13
MetaBookfoziSwhat can i do if my skype is very nasty09:13
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MetaBookfoziSit is nastier than a normal gtk application09:13
MetaBookfoziS(as i know skype uses qt)09:13
MetaBookfoziSi'm using feisty09:13
MetaBookfoziSis there any idea09:13
MetaBookfoziS?09:13
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w30"Arriba, Arriba"09:15
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c1|freakywhats a good file manager for KDE? (not konqueror)09:15
MetaBookfoziSlamer/n00b - #debian09:15
MetaBookfoziS:)09:15
MetaBookfoziSc1|freaky >  try out krusader09:15
c1|freakythx ;D09:15
MetaBookfoziSi'm really loves that: http://krusader.org09:15
MetaBookfoziSbut, if you have time, compile the latest (1.80-beta1)09:16
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MetaBookfoziSbecause that has _many_ usability improvements09:16
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MetaBookfoziSif you compile it, tell me, it need a work around to get ./configure run down.09:16
MetaBookfoziSyou can install 1.70 from repos, anyways...09:17
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pagansmindwhat to change kdesu to the new root password after i modified root password with the "passwd" command?09:22
Yorokobipagansmind, kdesu does not ask for the root password, it asks for your password09:22
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Yorokobiwait, I may be wrong ... checking ...09:23
h0axYorokobi:  back :D09:23
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Yorokobipagansmind, kdesu -s will cause it to forget passwords09:24
Yorokobiwb h0ax09:24
h0axwhats next then09:24
pagansmindit seem to work ;) Thx very much!09:25
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Yorokobiaaroncampbell, have you looked at the ldd command for your libwfb question?09:26
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Yorokobih0ax, let's take a look at your sources.list again. But first. go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:27
marcelArrrr!! Can someone tell me how to recover my settings - kde forgot them all without a obvious cause :/09:27
marcelor where possible backups could be stored09:28
marcelhuh09:28
MeTa[AwAy] marcel, start a konsole09:28
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h0axbrowser is taking ages mmmmm09:28
MeTa[AwAy] and type: df -h09:28
pagansmindi installed kubuntu 7 .. i like it09:28
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Yorokobih0ax, yep. Mine too09:28
TanuvaMeTa[AwAy] : and that does what?09:28
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MeTa[AwAy] it prints how many fre space you have09:28
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HThi, is baryl installed in Kubuntu 7.04N09:28
HT?09:28
MeTa[AwAy] what you get is happens often if free disk space goes near 009:29
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MeTa[AwAy] not near, if reaches 0:)09:29
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Tanuvatheres enough free, the disk isnt even filled half09:29
lynxghhhhjjjjjjjjjjjjgjydfghfhjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyygggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggguggykj09:29
Kansi?09:29
h0axright its loaded Yorokobi09:29
MeTa[AwAy] If a program want's to modify it's settings, it deletes that, and rewrites. But if your disk is full, it can't rewrite because other programs fill it's space...09:29
Yorokobih0ax, after it loads, open konsole (or switch back to it) and 'cd /etc/apt' then 'cat sources.list' then highlight it all, copy & paste it to the webpage,then send me the link it creates09:29
TanuvaI had that once before, now I would like to recover my settings, very tiring to have to set them all again09:29
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MeTa[AwAy] Tanuva >  then i dunno:) have you deleted  or hardly edited your .kde?:)09:30
Tanuvathe kernel modules for my pci-soundcard arent being loaded, too - VERY strange....09:30
Tanuvano.09:30
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Tanuvadidnt change anything09:30
MeTa[AwAy] i don't know, but your settings is in your ~/.kde folder09:30
MeTa[AwAy] so if you save that, you can restore next time:/09:30
Tanuvamaybe someone in #kde may help09:31
MeTa[AwAy] and i recommend to save other folders starts with "." - thats setting folders [in your home] 09:31
MeTa[AwAy] yes...09:31
YorokobiHT, yes. Beryl is included in the feisty repositories.09:31
h0axhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13402/09:31
HTthanks Yorokobi09:31
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MeTa[AwAy] oh, topic, poweredby svgs!!! coooooooooooooool09:32
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MeTa[AwAy] i'm order some stickers fast:)09:32
h0axYorokobi:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13402/09:33
meme4hey folks... have a strange prob with ubuntu. It started with Firefox behaving oddly. So I restarted FF and it no longer had my profile. Then I rebooted. Now I cannot log in. Ubuntu no longer recognizes my login OR the admin login. Prior to this... nothing was modified (except a few security updates)09:33
Yorokobih0ax, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13404/09:33
Yorokobih0ax, the differences are the addition of the universe and multiverse to the standard repos.09:34
h0axi thought i saved it ... grrrr09:34
Yorokobih0ax, nope. Doesn't look like it.09:34
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h0axright done09:35
MeTa[AwAy] meme4 how many free space you have?:)09:35
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Yorokobih0ax, okay. sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install superkaramba09:36
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h0axok its installed09:38
meme4Yorokobi: free space... not sure at this point but probably over 2 gb09:38
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h0axwere is it located mate09:39
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Yorokobimeme4, huh?09:39
Yorokobih0ax, it should be in the Kmenu ... somewhere :) I never use it09:39
meme4Yorokobi: I am in Ubuntu live now... but I cannot mount my hard disk volumes.. read only access to /mnt or /media09:40
h0axthanks alot Yorokobi09:40
Yorokobinp h0ax09:40
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Yorokobimeme4, I think that is by design09:40
meme4Yorokobi: confirmed (via Gnome partition editor) all volumes are >2gb09:41
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Yorokobimeme4, were we chatting earlier? I'm afraid I need a some context for this conversation09:42
meme4So how do I fix my ubuntu login problem? Any suggestions.  One moment Yorokobi.09:42
meme4hey folks... have a strange prob with ubuntu. It started with Firefox behaving oddly. So I restarted FF and it no longer had my profile. Then I rebooted. Now I cannot log in. Ubuntu no longer recognizes my login OR the admin login. Prior to this... nothing was modified (except a few security updates)09:42
meme4Yorokobi: is that enough context? lol09:43
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Yorokobimeme4, yeah ... but I'm not sure what to tell you. There are a load of possible reasons (ie, changing the keyboard layout)09:44
Yorokobi... for not being able to log in09:44
sinkorswimi installed vim-full using adept package manager but it's not showing up in the applications list.. any idea how I can add it?09:44
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Yorokobisinkorswim, use the kmenu editor to add gvim09:44
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sinkorswimYorokobi: thanks. How can I just run vim or gvim? I tried typing vim and gvim in "run command..." but I get a taskbar entry that looks like it's going to load and then it just dissapears09:46
lewixI need msn09:46
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pagansmindhttp://kopete.kde.org09:46
Yorokobisinkorswim, what happens when you run either from konsole ?09:47
sinkorswimYorokobi: they work fine09:47
Yorokobimeme4, you could try booting from the Live CD using 'linux rescue' as the boot option then change the root password ...09:48
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q_lewix-try aMSN09:48
archangel_why would kaffiene keep crashing on me when I try to play dvds09:48
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lewixq_, how do I install it?09:48
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Yorokobikaffeine blows :) try xine or vlc09:48
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pagansmindkaffeine cant play wvm?09:49
Yorokobisinkorswim, dunno ... both work for me in the run dialog ... but I also have already added them to my menu09:49
pagansmindwmv09:49
aaroncampbellYorokobi: I read the man on ldd (not much there), but I'm not sure how it would help with my libwfb issue09:49
lewixwhat about gaim09:49
lewixhow do i install it09:49
sinkorswimYorokobi: thanks. I'll give it a try09:49
q_lewix- in <Add/Remove application> search for aMSN09:50
Arwen!wmv | pagansmind09:50
ubotupagansmind: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:50
pagansmindyhea09:50
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pagansmindthx09:50
calamarihi09:50
calamari[edgy]  when I use my scroll wheel on top of the pager, it switches desktops.  Can I disable this behavior?09:50
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Lankenmy konqueror isn't working right09:51
Lankenhttp://tinyurl.com/2jsrrt09:51
SSJ_GZcalamari: Right click on the pager -> Configure Desktops09:51
SSJ_GZcalamari: Uncheck the "Mousewheel blah blah" box09:51
h0axYorokobi:  i just did ./configure to install GCC but i dunno what to do next09:52
calamariI have done so09:52
SSJ_GZLanken: lol09:52
Yorokobiaaroncampbell, I think ldd is used to check binaries ( to see what libs they use)09:52
calamariI think that mouse wheel selection is for something else.. if you scroll on the desktop09:52
YorokobiGotta go for a bit. Sorry, h0ax et alii09:53
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archangel_I thought that kaffiene uses the xine engine09:54
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nick1975hello09:56
archangel_xine-ui skinned front end  <-------     does that mean that its a stand alone player09:57
Arwenno, that means it's a frontend to libxine with a skinned ui?09:58
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archangel_I have 5 options to d/l.  Which one do I choose?09:58
Arwenarchangel_, what are you looking for?09:59
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nicoc_hi ppl09:59
hyper_chanyone has used Avidemux yet?09:59
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archangel_anything that will play dvds, kaffiene quit on me09:59
HymnToLife!anyone | hyper_ch09:59
ubotuhyper_ch: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:59
HymnToLifearchangel_, xine-ui wil play them, I peronnaly use KMPlayer as a frontend for both Xine and Mplayer10:00
nicoc_im getting this error when i try to start kubuntu - 'Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init ' -10:00
nicoc_any ideas??10:00
bill__kwhat's the preferred window theme manager for kubuntu?10:00
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HymnToLifenicoc_, reinstall :p10:00
nicoc_no thanks :d10:00
HymnToLifeyou obviously did something rally bad10:00
HymnToLifereally*10:00
nicoc_im in a mac intel.. it has been really hard10:00
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bill__knicoc_: I got it running on my mac intel, you messed up your fstab, permissions, had a bad install disc, or rm'ed it10:01
Arwenarchangel_, VLC, mplayer10:01
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archangel_delete the file I just d/led?10:02
archangel_xine-ui10:02
lewixwhy kde doesnt come with firefox10:02
lewixis konqueror that good10:02
bill__kso, good window decorators for kubuntu? anyone have ideas/ a favorite?10:02
HymnToLifelewix, why should it ?10:02
archangel_no its not10:02
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lewixand also do all the plugins working on firefox can work on konqueror10:02
nicoc_bill__k my problem was that i have mac os x and i want to keep it10:02
lewixHymnToLife, why not then?10:02
lewixarchangel_, thanks10:02
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HymnToLifethe KDE browser is Konqueror10:03
HymnToLifeso Kubuntu comes with Konqueror10:03
HymnToLifeperiod10:03
nicoc_bill__k are you using grub??10:03
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bill__knicoc_: same here, I dual boot.refit10:03
bill__kno, grub is the worst10:03
bill__klilo is preferred10:03
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nicoc_can you help me reinstalling it?10:03
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lewixHymnToLife, ok, but what do you use?10:04
HymnToLifefirefox10:04
archangel_Arwen: vlc is easy to install?10:04
bill__knioc_ have you seen the guides out there?, I really dont have time, gotta write a paper for tomorrow etc.10:04
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Arwenarchangel_, apt-get install vlc :-)10:04
lewixFirefox, why?10:04
nicoc_yep, but is the 6th time that i have to reinstall it, i really need help :d10:04
HymnToLifebecause it's the one I like best :)10:04
nicoc_wich version did u install??10:04
lewixHymnToLife, why do you like it best10:04
nicoc_edgy?10:04
lewixHymnToLife, what makes it better than firefox10:05
HymnToLifeI just told you I used Firefox :p10:05
lewixHymnToLife, how do I install firefox10:05
bill__knicoc_: http://modular.math.washington.edu/macbook/ i've re-installed ubuntu/kubuntu many more times than that!10:05
HymnToLifelewix, apt-get install firefow10:05
nicoc_desktop cd?10:05
HymnToLifeforefox*10:05
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HymnToLifefirefox* :/10:05
lewixHymnToLife, so you dont use it anymore?10:05
archangel_ah10:05
HymnToLifelewix, use what ?10:05
lewixfirefox10:06
bill__knicoc_: I have the kubuntu dvd, but desktop cd should work.  Depends what guide you're following/ how you want to do it10:06
archangel_ha, thanks Arwen10:06
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bill__knicoc_: I gotta go, good luck10:06
HymnToLifelewix, yes I do10:06
nicoc_thanks bill, have a nice day :)10:06
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HymnToLifenicoc_, what's the problem ?10:06
lewixI wonder why everybody uses that and they never say why10:06
HymnToLifelewix, I use Firefox because I like it best, period10:07
lewixwhat makes it better? (is it a difficult question10:07
HymnToLifematter of tastes10:07
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Arwenlewix, uses what?10:07
lewixfirefox10:07
ArwenFirefox? it's sweet... the extensions...10:07
archangel_I was denied10:07
Arwenarchangel_, ?10:07
archangel_how do I login as root10:07
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Arwenarchangel_, use "sudo"10:07
HymnToLifearchangel_, you don't10:07
HymnToLife!root | archangel_10:07
ubotuarchangel_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:07
archangel_it didnt prompt me for a pw10:07
Arwensyntax, "sudo <command>"10:07
eXistenZWhat is the location of the audio device if I want to stream my soundcard?10:07
nicoc_im gonna try to reinstall kubuntu hymntolife10:07
Arwenarchangel_, at the command line, you only get asked for a pw if you manually invoke sudo10:08
Buddha|I'm having trouble installing Xfce on Feisty Beta.  It installs, but when I try to log into it, it just returns me to the login screen.10:08
nicoc_but i have some issues with partitioning my disk :d10:08
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odlai prefer to use konqueror when possible because it's quite a bit faster10:08
archangel_ahh ok10:08
Arwenodla, yeah, Firefox loads slower and the memory usage..10:08
nicoc_safari rlz odla :P10:08
lewixodla, but?10:08
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HymnToLifeon slower systems, I usually install Gnome so I use Epiphany10:09
archangel_ok, man this takes some getting used to10:09
archangel_d/ling now10:09
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odlalewix: but what?10:11
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Tm_TOrmod: mooh10:11
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lewixodla, you try to use konqueror what you can. what makes that you cannot use konqueror10:12
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lewixwhen you download a *.bin where do you save it10:13
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lewixyou install and get rid of it?10:13
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lewix^^10:13
odlalewix: oh...some websites don't work properly with konqueror but nearly all of them do10:13
odlalewix: you can save a .bin anywhere10:13
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odlawhere you have premission10:14
OrmodHum, edgy->feisty upgrade broke sound on my T43, according to google it seems I'm not alone. Anyone else seen their alsa break with the upgrade?10:14
odlai'd recommend making a /home/lewix/download folder10:14
odlaOrmod: have you run sudo alsaconf after?  maybe that fixes your problem?10:14
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lewixodla, thanks10:14
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mario_hola10:15
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Ormododla: yeah I've done all the normal conf stuff, the device exists, it just doesn't output any sound at all.10:15
philphotook folks, I'm having trouble running Wine.  frustrating10:15
odlaOrmod: alsamixer...make sure stuff isn't muted?10:15
Ormododla: yes and yes.10:16
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odlaOrmod: thought i'd ask :D10:16
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odlaOrmod: would have been a nice quick fix10:16
archangel_Arwen: how do you play the dvd vlc? I keep getting an error10:16
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odlaarchangel_: you need to install libdvdcss210:16
Arwenarchangel_, what error?10:16
odla!tell archangel_ about libdvdcss210:16
odla!libdvdcss210:16
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:16
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archangel_same website?10:17
Arwenis it the encrypted DVD error? archangel_ http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/10:17
Arwennot seveas repository..10:17
archangel_this is confusing for a newbie10:17
archangel_lol10:17
odlaOrmod: out of curiousity...3.5.6 or 3.5.5 were you on?10:17
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Ormododla: 3.5.6 but doesn't matter, it's either libasound or kernel related.10:18
odlaOrmod: just wondering cause i'm thinking of upgrading too10:18
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briancronhello, I have a problem with USB in Kubuntu... I can use a USB port for media or my wireless connection... but if I take out the wireless to add some usbfiles it doesn't recognise the switch10:18
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archangel_Arwen: /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file was expected.10:18
odlaarchangel_: http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2-dev_1.2.9-1_i386.deb     <-- click on that link and download it10:18
Black_Cathello, i'm new to adept installation process, could someone please check are there libxine-extracodecs @ http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ (dapper / multiverse) ?10:18
odlaoh..10:19
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briancronunfortunately it's a Dell Laptop with 1 usb port10:19
Arwenarchangel_, play /dev/dvd10:19
odla!info libxine-extracodecs10:19
pgravesHey Dwidmann :)10:19
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB10:19
archangel_ok10:19
Arwenodla, that was the dev headers..10:19
odlaBlack_Cat: yes they are in multiverse10:19
dwidmannhi pgraves10:19
odlaoh crap...doh10:19
odlaarchangel_: you don't want that10:19
odlahttp://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb   <-- that's for encrypted dvds10:20
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Kevlar_SoulCan ANYONE help my friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39884710:20
tmgHi! My Network Settings are for some reason not applied at boottime. Disabling and then Enabling eth0 in the Network Settings starts the network fine. Any Idea?10:20
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Black_Catodia: thanks, i know that, but i wasn't asking about it. i asked - can someone check are they uploaded there now? or maybe some kind of mirror-updating takes place?10:20
lewixfakeroot make-jpkg jre-6-linux-i586.bin doesnt wok and what is fakeroot for10:20
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JarnI installed tor the other day and now whenever I do anything with apt-get it tries to restart tor and, of course, errors since it's already running.10:21
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pgravesSo my Ubuntu Software raid setup..... *WAS* loaded & working... but I wanted to "simulate" a hardware failure to ensure that the redundancy was functioning. So, I shut the system down, unplugged one of the hard drives (Remember it had 2 raidded hard drives) and turned the system on............ I havent been able to get it to boot since... I even re-plugged the other hard drive (and even reinstalled/repartitioned the whole thing)...10:21
archangel_play/dev/dvd    <---- where do I type that?10:21
odlaBlack_Cat: i386?10:21
pgraves@DWIDMANN10:21
Black_Catyes10:21
odlaBlack_Cat: i'm looking right now10:22
Lewixfakeroot make-jpkg jre-6-linux-i586.bin10:22
Lewixwhat's the similar command for kubuntu10:22
Lewixand what does fakeroot do10:22
jhutchinsarchangel_: I don't think you do.10:22
dwidmannpgraves: ouch10:22
Black_Catthanks10:23
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archangel_lol,  I just want ot play dvds10:23
archangel_thats all10:23
jhutchinsArwen: Did you read that site on how to play dvd's?10:23
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Arwenjhutchins, ??10:23
jhutchins!dvd | Arwen10:23
ubotuArwen: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:23
odlaBlack_Cat: it's there10:23
ArwenI know how to play DVDs thank you, don't ever ubotu me10:23
archangel_I ahve been on here for 3 to 4 hours (off and on) today10:23
odlabrb10:23
Lewixgosh10:23
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Arwenarchangel_, in vlc, go to file -> play disc -> type=dvd,file=/dev/dvd"10:24
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archangel_ok cool10:24
archangel_thank you10:24
archangel_I'm VERY new10:24
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archangel_almost retard like10:24
pgravesI think what I want to try doing at this point is try re-installing the whole thing, this time not RAIding the /boot partition and see what happens.... BUT, once the OS is loaded, I then image the /boot partition so that the mirror will be complete (I dont plan on upgrading my kernel anytime soon, so /boot wont be changing)10:24
Arwenarchangel_, I assume you installed the libvdcss2?10:24
pgravesIt just seems like I shouldnt have to do this10:25
Arwenlibdvdcss2*10:25
archangel_no idea how10:25
dwidmannpgraves, fire up the live cd, and install mdadm, lets see if you can still access the things, should be able to, and if so, lets fix it10:25
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kai_How can I switch channles?10:25
Arwenarchangel_, http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb - download and install that10:25
kai_Does this client work like the windows one?10:26
Black_Catodla: and the following string should gain access to it, right? "deb http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse"10:26
Arwenotherwise your DVDs will fail10:26
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pgravesDoes Ubuntu 6.10-Alternate also run as a Live CD or do I have to run the Ubuntu-6.10 Desktop disk?10:26
Black_Cator am i doing something wrong so i can't see it in filtering results?10:26
dwidmannpgraves, erm, nope10:26
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pgravesnope to which one dwidmann?10:26
Kevlar_SoulCan ANYONE help my friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39884710:27
dwidmannit'd have to be the desktop disk .... I personally use the dvd anymore, functions as both of those, plus it also has the oem, text only install, etc. All the goodies10:27
archangel_I get 2 errors while opening your link10:27
pgravesYour friend is doomed Kevlar10:27
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dwidmannKevlar_Soul: looks like the most recent apply to that post had an answer10:27
archangel_could not start a subprocess10:27
JarnI installed tor the other day and now whenever I do anything with apt-get it tries to start tor and, of course, errors since it's already running.10:27
Kevlar_Souldwidmann:  no success10:28
archangel_and.... an error accurred while tyrying to open the archive10:28
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Black_Catodla: and the following string should gain access to it, right? "deb http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse"10:29
Black_Cator am i doing something wrong so i can't see it in filtering results?10:29
pgravesYou know, this problem almost makes me want to pay for the Canonical Ubuntu Phone Support option10:29
calamariwhen I type an apostrophe, it combines with the next letter.. how do I fix this?10:30
odlaBlack_Cat: yeah it should...did you run sudo apt-get update before trying to install libxine-extracodecs?10:30
Arwenarchangel_, huh? it works here10:30
pgravesDwidmann: Live CD is now running... what did you want me to run?10:30
odlapgraves: what's your problem?10:30
Arwenarchangel_, if konqueror is failing it for you, archangel_, wget the url10:31
dwidmannpgraves, pull up konsole, run "sudo apt-get install mdadm"10:31
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archangel_how do you wget the url?10:32
Black_Catodia: well, i did that by GUI adept10:32
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briancronIs Mepis a good place to look if a question isn't answered in here?10:32
calamarifixed.. bad keyboard layout setting apparently10:32
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archangel_it opens up in Ark10:33
HymnToLifebriancron, no10:33
Black_Cati had 900+ pieces of soft, now it's above 18000 :)10:33
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odlaBlack_Cat: i have no idea why it's not working then...try it from a terminal...open konsole and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs10:33
dwidmannpgraves: next step, using the instructions founder here: http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO-5.html, reassemble the ?5? raidsets by editing the raidtab file .....10:34
Black_Catok, but will it download all the releases description list again if there were no refresh?10:34
archangel_ok got it10:34
odlaBlack_Cat: yeah it will ...10:35
Lewixmake-jpkg10:35
Lewixdoesnt work10:35
odlaBlack_Cat: or you can run apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs10:35
Arwenarchangel_, once you download the file, install it using "sudo dpkg -i <package>"10:35
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archangel_installed10:35
odlaBlack_Cat: if it appears there then you can just run "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"10:35
Arwenarchangel_, ok, now go play your DVD :-)10:35
archangel_oh, I right clicked it and selected install package10:36
archangel_is that the same thing?10:36
LewixArwen, where you talking to me10:36
odlaarchangel_: yes10:36
Arwenarchangel_, yeah10:36
archangel_cool10:36
Lewixfakeroot make-jpkg jre-6-linux-i586.bin10:36
Lewixdoesnt work10:36
ArwenLewix, nope :-\10:36
ChemicalvampPackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package10:36
odlaLewix: why not just install java?10:36
Lewixmake-jpkg: no found10:36
archangel_now I hit play and then it tries and stops10:36
Black_Catokay, i'll give it a try...10:37
Lewixodla, im following a guideline here10:37
Arwenarchangel_, ...........................10:37
archangel_it may not have a good path10:37
archangel_lol, sorry10:37
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Lewixit does have a good pa10:37
Lewixpath10:37
Arwenarchangel_, yeah... let's see, do you know what device your DVD drive is?10:37
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odlaLewix: are you running edgy?  cause if you are you can just apt-get install it10:37
Lewixodla, I am10:37
archangel_I can find out10:37
odla!info sun-java5-jre10:37
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB10:37
Arwenarchangel_, please do10:38
Lewixim installing jRE 610:38
odlawhy do you need jre 6...do you do development?10:38
odla!info sun-java6-jre10:38
ubotusun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 6174 kB, installed size 14144 kB10:38
Lewixno10:38
Black_Catodla: no response for apt-cache search, that means "no"?10:38
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odlaLewix: it's available in edgy-backports10:38
Arwenodla, j2re6 is backwards compatible to j2re5... j2re5 is dead10:38
archangel_location: media (system)10:38
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archangel_no exactly an address is it?10:39
odlaBlack_Cat: you can install java6 via edgy-backports10:39
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gravespkBack - Had to reconnect network wires, router wasnt plugged in (had to get fileserver online)10:39
odlaBlack_Cat: paste your sources.list10:39
Lewixdman10:39
Lewixi as following a guideline10:39
Lewixnow im all confused10:39
odlaLewix: it's just more work to do it that way...that was before java became "free"10:39
Arwenarchangel_, no... do you know if your DVD player is IDE or SATA?10:39
odla!pastebin10:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:40
enrygoodnoght10:40
Daisuke_Idomy dvd player's either composite or component, depending on what cables i use, i dunno what you're talking about... "IDE", "SATA"...10:40
Daisuke_Ido>_>10:40
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, ....10:41
archangel_IDE10:41
Lewixodla, ah ok10:41
Arwenarchangel_, is your hard drive IDE or SATA?10:41
Lewixodla, so what should I do10:41
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odlaLewix: i would enable edgy-backports in your sources.list via adept or editing it by hand and then install sun-java6-jre10:41
gravespkLOL WTF... Im in this room THREE TIMES?10:41
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archangel_IDE as well10:41
Daisuke_Idomorning, Arwen (or some diurnal time period)10:41
gravespk<-- gravespk, pgraves, pgraves__10:41
gravespkhow the FSCK did that happen?10:41
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ArwenDaisuke_Ido, afternoon :-\10:41
Arwengravespk, it's called ghosts, nothing special10:42
Arwenjust means your wifi sucks ass10:42
gravespkDwidmann: Ok, I've got the livecd loaded and installed mdadm....?10:42
Lewixodla, I think it's edited, now how to i install it10:42
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Lewixwhat shoul di type in the cmd10:42
dwidmannright, now's the hard part gravespk10:42
odlaLewix: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre10:42
Arwenarchangel_, ok, play /dev/hdb in the "open disc" part of VLC10:42
gravespkPutting the square peg into the round whole?10:43
Arwenarchangel_, and make sure you choose "DVD" as your disc type10:43
odlaLewix: or sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin  ... i believe ... if you just want the browser plugin10:43
dwidmannreassembling the raid ... it's more or less done manually, which is always fun. THe instructions here didn't look too bad - http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO-5.html10:43
odla!info sun-java6-plugin10:43
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ubotusun-java6-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB10:43
odlaLewix: or sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin  < --- IF YOU WANT THE PLUGIN10:43
archangel_ok10:43
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gravespkDwidmann: When I was installing... I did technically take one assumption........ when I created the partition for /boot one of the options listed was "Bootable Flag", I set this to "On", was this correct?10:45
Black_Catodla: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13416/10:45
dwidmanngravespk: in my experience it never mattered. Sometimes I turn it on and sometimes I don't. Might be some sort of legacy option, or perhaps something recognized by other bootloaders and/or operating systems10:45
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odlaBlack_Cat: yeah that looks good...i guess you need to refresh your cache by running sudo apt-get update and then run sudo apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs to make sure it's there10:46
gravespkWell, keep in mind the problem Im having is that the system isnt booting, almost like its not finding something bootable... can that option cause any harm?10:46
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Lewixodla, actually I had already installed it, is it bad If I type in intall again10:46
dwidmanngravespk: as far as I know, no10:46
archangel_Arwen: I hit play and the player closes10:47
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odlaLewix: no it should be a problem...as long as your install it via apt-get10:47
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dwidmanngrub seems to boot whatever partition you tell it to, however, it seems to be having trouble finding either the root or boot partition10:47
Black_Catodla: thank you, i'm starting it now.10:47
odlaLewix: shouldn't be a problem10:47
Arwenarchangel_, ...oh well....10:47
ArwenI give up10:47
archangel_the address to my dvd is /dev/hdc10:47
odlaBlack_Cat: good luck10:47
Lewixodla, so now im done?10:47
wolferineneed a hand setting up my Logitech Quickcam STX (ID 046d:08f5), anyone have any great ideas, its plugged in, and when I start  camorama, I get 'Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)', and in /dev, this is no /video*10:47
Chemicalvampis it possible to install a .msi?10:47
gravespkDwidmann: What should I do to fix this? Im confused about the instructions you gave me. They seem to be for creating a RAID, but the RAID already exists, its just not bootable10:47
odlaLewix: i believe so...go to a java website with firefox or konqueror10:47
Arwenarchangel_, that makes more sense.... you have multiple hard drives? or multiple cd drves?10:47
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archangel_at least that is what k3b tells me, and its flawless10:48
odlaLewix: if the plugin comes in your golden10:48
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Dasnipa`archangel_, lol is that some kinda joke?10:48
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Lewixodla, brb im going to eat10:48
OrmodHmm, found an forum post with a tip that helped my sound problems, needed to turn off both my line/headphone jack sense -> sound started working. Still it's a regression.10:48
archangel_I'm too dumb to joke, man10:48
odlayeah i need to reboot...brb10:48
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Arwenarchangel_, ...start vlc from konsole so that you can see why it crashes and try to play /dev/hdc10:49
archangel_no just one drive each10:49
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Dasnipa`archangel_, k3b is _far_ from flawless10:49
dwidmanngravespk: yeah, this is just so you can mount the partitions from the livecd really, and then perchance fix things if necessary10:49
archangel_I never have any probs with it10:49
gravespkkk.... tell me what youd like me to do10:49
Black_Catodia: http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz - loading failure, error code 110:49
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Dasnipa`archangel_, just cuz youve never had probs doesnt mean its flaw free10:49
archangel_ok10:49
dwidmannDasnipa`: k3b 1.0 has me surprised in that respect10:49
wolferinearchangel_, what seems to be the issue, something with VLC?10:50
archangel_get technical with a newbie10:50
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billI was running a new install Kubuntu 6.10, and I was able to write partition tables manually to my compact flash card10:50
archangel_go ahead10:50
archangel_you will get real board real quick10:50
billnow that I updated everything through adept, I can't write the partition tables10:50
archangel_:o)10:50
BluesKajarchangel_, telling ppl that your stuff works without saying how is no help to anyone10:50
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billactually, I dont think it is even mounting my flash card anymore10:50
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dwidmannbill, one way to find out if it is10:51
Junglerone quick question plz. Is Kubuntu all the same with Ubuntu except for the KDE thing? I mean, as i am a newbbie, should i check on guides for Ubuntu? If i follow them, will it do the trick ?10:51
BluesKajyoutube10:51
Dasnipa`Jungler, yes kubuntu and ubuntu are the same except for the WM10:51
wolferineJungler, K == KDE and U = Gnome10:51
BluesKajyoutube is flash10:51
archangel_it was a response not a tech help10:51
dwidmannbill: plug it in, then look at /var/log/dmesg10:51
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Jungler:)10:51
wolferineso you will get alot of Gnome-packages in U and KDE-packages in K10:51
archangel_sheesh10:51
BluesKajnot a helpful response tho10:52
Junglerthnx10:52
wolferinenp10:52
wolferineanyone want to help with the webcam now?10:52
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gravespkDwidmann: what shall I do?>10:52
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posingaspopularif you want you can just do a /ignore, if its that big of a deal10:52
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archangel_nothing happens after  play /dev/hdc    did I type it wrong?10:53
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dwidmanngravespk: well, option one is to redo it all with the installation disk, option two is to rebuild it manually on the livecd and try to find out the source of the problem ..... option 2 is probably the hardway, but is theoretically faster10:53
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wolferinearchangel_, what are you trying to do?10:53
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archangel_play a goofy dvd10:54
wolferineok, so you have the DVD in your drive?10:54
Arwenarchangel_, again, play it in VLC.....10:54
Black_Catodla: maybe i should try another multiverse, not russian? any advice about the url?10:54
archangel_no one knows why I cant play dvds (me being a newbie isnt helping matters)10:54
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dwidmannarchangel_: do you get an error, if so, what?10:55
wolferinearchangel_, not answering questions is the only thing holding you back10:55
wolferinearchangel_,  so you have the DVD in your drive?10:55
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archangel_arwen has alot of patience I comend you man!    :o)10:55
archangel_dvd is in drive10:55
wolferinearchangel_, do you have vlc installed?10:55
billdwidmann: it doesn't even change10:55
archangel_the add. is /dev/hdc10:55
Black_Catarchangel_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs - did you check it?10:55
wolferinearchangel_, yes or no works fine for me10:56
archangel_yes I do10:56
archangel_ok10:56
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wolferineok, open VLC10:56
dwidmannbill, try a different port? or perhaps try *gasp* rebooting?10:56
archangel_ok10:56
billI've tried rebooting already10:56
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archangel_open10:56
wolferinearchangel_,  press ctrl-d10:56
billand the same port was working yesterday10:56
odlaBlack_Cat: there's lots of mirrors...maybe try one in china, taiwan, japan, or korea?  are you closer to europe?10:56
billand changing USB ports doesn't help10:57
wolferinearchangel_, then the "Open" window appears10:57
bill*and the same card reader was10:57
archangel_yes10:57
wolferinearchangel_, confirm you see it10:57
wolferinek10:57
billits the onyl CF reader I have10:57
archangel_I see it10:57
wolferinearchangel_, does the DVD have menus?10:57
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dwidmannbill, that's odd10:57
archangel_yes10:57
wolferinearchangel_, ok, then click OK10:57
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dwidmannbill, can you get it to read when running from the live cd?10:57
billlol yeah10:57
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archangel_done10:58
Black_Catodla: it's the very west of russia, so poland or germany for exampe suits good10:58
wolferinearchangel_, is it playing?10:58
dwidmannmight be an issue with upgrades you've done since you installed then10:58
archangel_no10:58
odlaBlack_Cat: ok...i'll find you one10:58
wolferinearchangel_, is there an error?10:58
odla!mirrors10:58
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php10:58
archangel_I just clicked ok in the menu10:58
odla!mirror10:58
billand very frustrating....I need to write some partition tables to my palm lifedrive CF to fix the OS, and I have to leave in half an hour10:58
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archangel_does that play the dvd too?10:58
wolferinearchangel_, yes or no works MUCH better10:59
wolferinearchangel_, is there an error?10:59
archangel_no10:59
gravespkdwidmann, can I talk to you in private?10:59
wolferineok, google this --> Ubuntu guide10:59
dwidmanngravespk: you can (and you may :P)10:59
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wolferinearchangel_, in the guide, there are instructions on playing DVDs in Ubuntu, which should also work for kubuntu10:59
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billwell, I thought maybe it might be the upgrades...it's funny, because before it would let me access the disk in Konsole, but not in anything else....so I upgraded in hopes of fixing it11:00
archangel_ok, thanx wolf11:00
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Junglersorry to become annoying, but on second thought i still have a question. You told me before that Ubuntu= Gnome and Kubuntu=KDE. How can this affect let's say the way one installs multimedia codecs? are there cases where installations or making-ones-way-around is the same in {K,U}buntu? Are there any opposite cases?11:00
wolferinearchangel_, np, good luck11:00
archangel_thanks11:00
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Ind[y] My system suddenly is *very* slow (it responds/reacts slow to my commands/actions). Why? Any help, please?11:01
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Daisuke_IdoJungler: absolutely no difference11:01
wolferineJungler, you can use the ubuntu guide (google it) for setting up your system11:01
JunglerDaisuke_Ido: thnx :)11:01
wolferineInd[y] , how much RAM?11:01
Daisuke_Idothe only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is the desktop environment, the underlying OS is the same.11:01
Ind[y] wolferine: 51211:01
Junglerwolferine: have done it already, thats why i am asking11:01
odlaBlack_Cat: deb http://debian.charite.de/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse11:01
wolferineInd[y] , using Beryl?11:01
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Ind[y] wolferine: It wasn't so slow till my last boot.11:02
Ind[y] wolferine: no11:02
dwidmannbill, it's hard saying which upgrade did it, it could have been the kernel, switching kernels would be your best bet, but that's still not 100%, could have been any of the hardware related libraries. I think your best bet i f you're in a hurry is to do what you can from the livecd11:02
odlaBlack_Cat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors?action=show&redirect=Archive   <-- or you can select one11:02
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Black_Catodla: thanks again, i'll check it11:02
wolferineInd[y] , have you changed any settings (requiring a reboot or not) ?11:02
billlol, ok11:02
billI need a new computer11:02
KaiSVKhi all, I am new around here. I am trying Feisty Beta and I have a problem installing drivers for my GeForce 7300 Go with 2.6.20.13 generic kernel. Is this some known bug or am I doing something wrong ?11:02
Ind[y] wolferine: no11:02
Junglerbill everyone does :D11:02
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dwidmannJungler: I don't, not really anyway. Granted, I wouldn't refuse one if offered :P11:03
wolferineInd[y] , so on your last two logins, you changed no software/hardware, that would affect performance?11:03
Junglerdwidmann: that's the spirit !!!11:03
Ind[y] wolferine: installed some packages11:03
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Daisuke_IdoKaiSVK: what exactly is the problem, are you installing fron repositories or from the installer from nvidia's site?11:03
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dwidmannThe bleeding edge of yesterday is still the pretty-good of today ...11:03
wolferineInd[y] , well, something you installed (which could be anything) could affect your performance11:04
Daisuke_Idothat wasn't vague at all11:04
wolferineif you want, check over your running processes, sudo ps -A11:04
Ind[y] wolferine: I installed apache, php, mysql, and svn11:04
Daisuke_Ido:P11:04
KaiSVKDaisuke_Ido: I am doing the install from the repos ... problem is after nvidia-glx-config enable command and restarting kdm, the kdm won't come up11:04
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wolferineKaiSVK, you get the latest nvidia drivers?11:05
sorush20!panic11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about panic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
wolferinestill wanting assistance with my Logitech webcam btw....11:05
KaiSVKwolferine: don't undertand ... when I am installing from repos arent they the latest drivers ?11:05
dwidmann!nvidia9 | wolferine KaiSVK11:05
ubotuwolferine KaiSVK: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable11:05
Black_Catnot necessarily11:05
wolferineKaiSVK, consult the ubuntu guide, do a search on nvidia, looking for "installing latest"11:06
Jungler!ati11:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:06
wolferineits straightforward11:06
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MetaMorfoziSHey folks, i have created a wallpaper using the poweredby stickers, if anyone interested: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Powered+By+Kubuntu?content=55552 :)11:06
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wolferine!webcam | wolferine11:06
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carutsuhello11:07
carutsu!fonts11:07
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer11:07
sorush20how do I fix a kernel panic11:07
dwidmanngravespk: you still there ... I guess I should have mentioned, seeing as you're on your third nick now, you can only send queries (PMs) on this network (freenode) if you use a registered nick11:08
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dennis_MetaMorfoziS: nice work, it's classy11:08
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MetaMorfoziSthx:)11:09
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dwidmannMetaMorfoziS: I don't like the orange, but that's just me ...11:09
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MetaMorfoziSfeel fre to edit that to any colour... http://inkscape.org:)11:09
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MetaMorfoziSbtw it's not a complicated image contains only 4-5 gradients not more...11:10
carutsuorange? in what OOo? is a little weird11:10
carutsuxD11:10
MetaMorfoziSOOo?11:10
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tidiman07hey guys, is there a way i can see and log commands output at the same time?11:10
leiar_I'm not able to record voice in audacity. I use Kubbuntu daper drake. Any suggestions?11:10
gravespkOh11:10
gravespkI guess I should stop waiting for a PM reply then11:11
MetaMorfoziSleiar_ > in kmix, have you enabled your microphone?11:11
just-this-timeneed someone who uses f-spot and posts to picasaweb.google.com11:11
leiar_MetaMorfoziS: yes11:11
leiar_The mic works11:11
gravespkDwidmann: As I had tried to say...... Skim http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15605.html real quick if you could11:11
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Jungleranother one ... i own an ATI Radeon 9000 ... what am i gonna need with drivers etc? in the ubuntu site it states "The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higher, or it is in the X series (e.g. X300), or it has TV-Out capability. The 'fglrx' driver does not support cards earlier than the 8500." and at the x.org site it states that "The radeon driver supports PCI and AGP video cards based on the following ATI chips ... RV25011:11
Jungler    Radeon 9000PRO/9000, M911:11
MetaMorfoziSthen i dunno.11:11
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just-this-timenow on kde and f-spot needs some keyring to post to picasaweb.google.com11:12
just-this-timeanyone familiar with that ?11:12
dwidmanngravespk: am doing now11:12
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dennis_MetaMorfiziS, is Inkscape dificult to work with? compared with krita?11:12
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Black_Catbtw, if i download anything thru adept or apt-get, where is it saved so i could use it after system reinstall with no need to download again?11:13
LjLBlack_Cat: /var/cache/apt/archives/11:14
just-this-timeAH Gnome-keyring-manager needs the gnomekeyring daemon11:14
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just-this-timeso does f-spot11:14
Black_CatLjL: thank you.11:14
just-this-timeso how do I start gnome-keyring-daemon11:14
Jungleranyone about the ATI post just some posts before ?11:14
leiar_Any experts on sound? I can't get my mic to record sound, not in xvidcap nor in audacity11:15
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dwidmanngravespk: Yeah, looks fairly informative ... What's your plan of action?11:16
dwidmannleiar_: I'm no expert, but I've had luck before doing it in krec11:16
carutsuleiar_ i'm far away from being an expert but did you check the volume in, say, Kmix11:16
dwidmanngravespk: oh, and that thread looks really old now that I look at it. It's possible that parts of it could be out of date ..11:17
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Chemicalvampwhats the command for installing eclipse?11:18
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Chemicalvampis there an apt-get install?11:18
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gravespk\11:19
tidiman07anybody? view and log command output at same time?11:19
gravespkI would love a better solution/answer than that thread, but according to it, I can'11:19
gravespkcant* do a softwar raid on my /boot11:19
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leiar_dwidmann: krec, do I have to install it? Since it doesn't work in xvidcap, I guess there is an issue with the system?11:20
leiar_carutsu: the volume is ok :-)11:20
dwidmannleiar_: I don't know, that's possible too11:20
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dwidmannworth a try anyway leiar_, and yes, you would have to install krec before you could use it ...11:21
hansentidiman07: man tee11:21
carutsuleiar_ ok, i had a similar problem with my sound but it was because i changed the output channel and it was going to the input channel insted, ver weird! xD!11:21
dwidmanngravespk: Well, unless you're willing to shell out cash for a hardware raid controller that is11:21
gravespkOOOH: http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID11:22
gravespkDwidmann: Look at that link and specifically look for the first paragraph under the heading "Installing Grub onto both MBRs"11:23
tidiman07hansen: thanx11:23
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hansenyw11:24
dwidmanngravespk: okay11:24
neil__hey guys, how do i know if im using xgl or aiglx?11:24
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leiar_dwidmann: installed krec. The button for record is passive (?) unable to activate. Don't find the word...11:25
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dwidmannhmm, i'm not sure why it won't let you click it, maybe you need to configure it first leiar_11:25
leiar_carutsu: Haven't changed any settings..11:25
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Jungler!ati 900011:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati 9000 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
Jungler!radeon 900011:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radeon 9000 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:27
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sorush20how do I fix kernel panic11:27
dwidmanngravespk: you can probably run the grub commands from the livecd, if you're interested11:27
leiar_dwidmann: do you know how to troublleshoot this? I'm in charge for the computers at three schools. Converted from Microsoft to Linux, and want to make some instruction videos with xvidcap. But am not able to record sound..11:29
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dwidmannleiar_: not really, I don't really play with sound very much.11:30
dwidmann(half the reason for that being that I forgot to connect it when I built the computer and haven't felt like bringing my computer down just for that ...)11:31
JarnHow does the /etc/hosts file work? I added the line "localhost ubuntuforums.org" thinking that ubuntuforums.org would redirect me to localhost. No such luck. I tried it the other way around, too, and it was a no go. Do I have to reset something?11:31
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JarnFor changes to take affect?11:31
leiar_Ok, dwidman, thanks anyway...anybode else then, who can help me geetthe recording working?11:32
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Daisuke_IdoJarn: i think you need to use 127.0.0.1 rather than 'localhost', but i'm not sure11:32
JarnDaisuke_Ido: Okay.11:32
sorush20I have a hdd and the root is on hdc1 which is grub hd0,0 right?11:32
Daisuke_Idoso...  127.0.0.1 ubuntuforums.org11:32
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dwidmannleiar_: you may also want to try #ubuntu, there's more people in there11:32
sorush20and setup should be on hd011:33
JarnDaisuke_Ido: No go, it still doesn't work.11:33
sorush20to fix I get the message in grub live cd that finding of stage 1 and 2 were a sucess and so is the final stage..11:33
Daisuke_Idohrmm11:33
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leiar_dwidmann: ok, never been there :-)11:34
dwidmannsorush20: depends how it was set up, you could always play in the grub menu.lst and change the hdX number around until you get the winning lottery ticket, then edit the menu.lst file to suit11:34
Daisuke_Idoi'm not sure then, because i use 127.0.0.1 for doubleclick...11:34
Daisuke_IdoJarn: tried refreshing?11:34
JarnDaisuke_Ido: Yes.11:34
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sorush20the menu says hd(0,0)11:35
sorush20I haven't changed it11:35
dwidmannsorush20: mmhmm, but it might not hurt to try11:35
Daisuke_Idohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_file11:36
dwidmannHeck, the weirdest thing that has happened to me in a while involved that same thing. When I dropped in my new 400GB, it rearranged my drives ... the new drive became sda, the old sda became sdc, and the other stayed the same (sdb), and whaddayaknowit, kernel panic!11:36
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gravespkDWIDMANN: Would you take that documentation to support the theory that we cannot raid the /boot and as such, if I was to reinstall the OS with the exact same steps I've already done EXCEPT not raiding /boot that it should fix my issue?11:37
Daisuke_IdoJarn ^^  a quick rundown of how it's set up and such11:37
JarnDaisuke_Ido: Yeah, I was just looking at the man page for it and it appears to be set up correctly.11:37
dwidmanngravespk: I'm willing to bet it's worth a try.11:37
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dwidmannThat should take care of it anyway11:37
JarnDaisuke_Ido: It says, though, that some programs may cache the file and so changes will not take affect immediately. Is it possible that Firefox is doing that and, if so, is there any way I could clear it?11:38
Daisuke_Idoit's possible11:38
Lewixodla, myspace standone player doesnt work properly11:38
Daisuke_Idocan try flushing the cache and restarting FF11:38
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sorush20dwidmann: the story is that I have two hdds one is primary jumper and has ubuntu with  a set of partitions on it, the first partition is hdc1 and it is physically the first partition too..11:38
JarnDaisuke_Ido: Yeah, when I cleared my cache it worked. Thanks. :)11:39
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome11:39
dwidmannsorush20: what was the exact message of the kernel panic?11:40
Daisuke_Idoi hate it when OOo upgrades.  takes forever to install the updates :)11:40
dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: I've removed it at least until feisty is released .... takes forever for it to download too afterall11:41
sorush20I wanted to install windows on the second hdd which is on the second11:41
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sorush20unknown block11:41
Daisuke_Idosorush20: MS doesn't like to be second.11:41
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sorush20(0,0)11:42
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sorush20ms is fuching11:42
sorush20chit11:42
Tm_T!ohmy | sorush2011:42
ubotusorush20: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:42
Daisuke_Idono arguments there, why do you think many of us are here to begin with? :)11:42
sorush20sorry11:42
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sorush20yahoo.co.uk11:43
sorush20sorry11:43
sorush20is there a grub recovery option in the live cd?11:43
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dwidmannsorush20: you can redo the grub from the live cd11:45
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dennis_Next week i have some free time and i want to read some tutorials of a graphical program, krita seems to be too basic, so I will try The Gimp or Inkscape, which one should i choose?11:50
dennis_has anyone experience with both?11:51
Tm_Tboth11:51
Tm_Tthey do different stuff11:51
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gravespkDwidmann: Ok, Im reinstalling the OS as we speak.... I redid all the partitions and software RAID from scratch, everythings raided except /boot... we'll see how it goes11:51
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Tm_TGimp handle pixels, Inkscape vectors11:51
boblenyHey, what do I do when the computer freezes???11:52
dennis_Does this means that Gimp is more easy to use?11:52
boblenyGIMP Rules...11:53
Yorokobibobleny, reboot (usually need to use the reset button on the chassis)11:53
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boblenyyorokobi, when I do that it shut down inproperly...11:53
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YorokobiIf its frozen you don't have much choice11:54
bobleny...11:54
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YorokobiIf a single app freezes, you have choices; if the computer as a whole unit ceases to respond you get to reboot it and work through any consequences.11:55
dwidmanngraves, guess I'll wait and see then11:55
boblenyWell, My computer has been getting slower and slower lately and I'm not sure why. I think that is why it is freezing so often... Is there somthing I can check to see why it is slowing down?11:55
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dwidmannbobleny: with what OS is that happening (or all?)11:56
boblenyI don't use my other OS.11:56
Yorokobibobleny, how's the CPU temperature look as it slows down? The last time I had to deal with a system freezing up is because the CPU temp got too high11:57
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boblenyI don't have a gauge on it...11:57
Sannedennis_: here are manuals for both Gimp and Inkscape. Just check out both docs to get a feeling for what both are, and the differences: http://docs.gimp.org/en/   http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/index.php11:57
dwidmann!info lmsensors11:57
ubotuPackage lmsensors does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas11:57
dennis_tnx a lot Sanne11:57
dwidmann!info lm-sensors11:57
ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.0-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1472 kB11:58
Yorokobibobleny, does your BIOS?11:58
Sannedennis_: you're welcome :)11:58
boblenyDoubt it... It is a lame BIOS11:58
boblenyI don't remeber ever seeing anything in my BIOS for it11:58
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boblenyI'm afraid the computer is starting to fail...11:59
boblenyDoes ubuntu have any hardware scanners?12:00
LjL!info smartmontools12:01
ubotusmartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 620 kB12:01
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LjL!info memtest86+12:01
ubotumemtest86+: thorough real-mode memory tester. In component main, is standard. Version 1.65-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 59 kB, installed size 200 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)12:01
LjL(the latter is already available at your GRUB menu, or at least should)12:01
Yorokobi!info kinfocenter12:01
ubotuPackage kinfocenter does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas12:01
LjLand yeah, lm-sensors12:01
boblenyso in my grub menu it will have a check thingy?12:02
Sannebobleny: you could also put a cpu load monitor applet to the panel, like System Guard12:02
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dwidmannSanne: that applet is handy :)12:02
Sannedwidmann: :)12:03
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Yorokobigkrellm is another handy hw monitor12:03
Sannedwidmann, bobleny: there's also kcpuload (and knetload, for network traffic), which I personally use.12:04
Chemicalvampwhats the command to apt-get KDEsvn (tried sudo apt-get install KDEsvn and it showed Couldn't find package KDEsvn)12:04
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dwidmanna network bandwidth tracker? I'm interested12:04
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YorokobiChemicalvamp, try kdesvn (all lower-case)12:05
Chemicalvampwill do ty12:05
SanneChemicalvamp: to find out the exact package name, do: 'apt-cache search searchterm', or search on packages.ubuntu.com12:05
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Chemicalvampno need yorokobi was correct12:06
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bill__kcan anyone help me get console transparency working?  on kubuntu edgy with ati 9800pro (fglrx driver).  whenever I try to make konsole semi-transparent (or any transparency setting) it just stays black.  Tried restarting and restarting x.12:07
boblenyWell, for now, how can I turn off the animation when programes load? Like the bouncing Icons by the mouse and the spining thing in the taskbar?12:07
SanneChemicalvamp: but now you know how to next time ;)12:07
Chemicalvampaye thanks12:07
Yorokobibill__k, try konsole --schema Transparent_darkbg12:08
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tulio__!avi12:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:08
dwidmannbobleny: pull up kcontrol, and in the filter type "launch feedback"12:08
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boblenyWhere is kcontrol?12:09
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bill__kYorokobi: wow, that worked.  I'm almost positive I tried that theme under settings> configure konsole. it made a liar of me12:09
bill__klol12:09
Lewixhow do i install amsn12:09
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dwidmannan application ... use alt+f2 and type in kcontrol and it will launch12:10
dwidmannLewix: sudo apt-get install amsn12:10
Yorokobibill__k, the trick with konsole is to use Save as default after changing the schema via the gui12:10
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boblenyalt f2 doesn't do anything...12:11
bill__kYorokobi: aah, missed that.  so now it will always launch with that schema?12:11

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