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[01:39] it would seem so Chipzz :) === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121npi.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:42] ah, working again :) === shiyee [n=Shiyee@adsl-71-146-68-120.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-28-244.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zerbero__ [n=jga@p85.212.73.25.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-devel === acacs [n=acacs@201.32.147.234] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508d95c1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Exit,] === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vorian_ [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lfittl [n=lfittl@213.129.230.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [n=ccheney@cpe-24-162-49-93.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@dsl-210-15-197-192-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === acacs_ [n=acacs@20132137148.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stratus [n=stratus@201.53.55.52] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sn- [n=sno@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desrt_ [n=desrt@72.12.165.48] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lotusleaf [n=ohzone@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tuna0 [n=unknown@61.95.192.203.static.sa.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:16] ok i think i found a bug [04:16] `dmesg` shows: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004 [04:17] i can reproduce the bug. where to file it ? [04:18] exec -n uname -r [04:18] 2.6.17-11-386 [04:18] sorry! [04:18] :) === tuna0 [n=unknown@61.95.192.203.static.sa.chariot.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A70EE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-70-106-17-43.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:01] Does anyone else not have sound in Feisty [05:01] I am grepping launchpad for bugs on this. [05:02] If I use gstreamer-properties to emit a test tone I have THAT, but everything else is silent. === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.2.146.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lotusleaf [n=ohzone@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-devel ["trombone"] === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:17] bluefoxicy: sounds like a #ubuntu+1 question. besides, ti's a sunday === wesley [n=wesley@71-86-26-52.dhcp.cpgr.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:22] doing beta ! [05:22] bluefoxicy: pulseaudio [05:23] bluefoxicy: asoundconf pulseaudio [05:23] see if that helps === speedingbullet [n=richard@dsl.c.217.ktis.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === speedingbullet [n=richard@dsl.c.217.ktis.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:35] Amaranth: ALSA lib pcm.c:2106:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so [05:35] oh, you maybe don't have all the pulseaudio packages installed === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === richard [n=richard@dsl.c.217.ktis.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === simonxx [n=simon@203.142.123.134] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-199.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [n=james@203-59-106-25.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === syberdave [i=asdf@syberdave.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === syberdave [i=asdf@syberdave.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === shenki_ [n=shenki@ppp89-222.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pradeep [n=pradeep@unaffiliated/pradeep] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yigal [n=yigal@c-67-180-5-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sharms [n=sharms@ubuntu/member/sharms] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yigal [n=yigal@c-67-180-5-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:33] hey everyone [08:34] hi === Fujitsu waves. === Rohinton [n=chatzill@c-67-170-250-22.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:54] morning all === StevenK waves to Mithrandir. [09:02] heya Mithrandir! [09:03] hey Mithrandir [09:04] hiya StevenK, Hobbsee, Burgundavia [09:08] Mithrandir: Can you please try a give-back of xmms2? === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:16] Fujitsu: given-back [09:16] Mithrandir: Thanks. === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lfittl [n=lfittl@213.129.230.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tkjacobsen [n=tkjacobs@105.18.235.85.dk-boa.res.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@62-77-229-162.static.invitel.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:49] so I have clearly *no* idea how grub or Linux determine the drive order [09:49] grub seems to see 1=hd0, 2=hd1, 3=hd2, but Linux seems to think sda=2, sdb=0, sdc=1 [09:51] (at least I assume that's how grub sees them, it could be just that I haven't dared run install-grub :p) [09:52] Keybuk: grub sees the BIOS order; some BIOS-es reorder the drives on bootup so the boot drive is 0x80, some don't. [09:52] Linux just does them in the order the controller returns them in. :-P [09:52] heh [09:53] maybe the new drive is faster than the old one [09:53] (s) [09:53] what's now sda is the new 250GB I bought to put vmware and cd images on [09:53] or maybe it's because the new drive is SATA-II ? === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sacater [n=sacater@host86-150-150-151.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-devel === simonxx [n=simon@203.142.109.47] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.152.178.151] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44_ [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44_ is now known as mc44 === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d54C0EE14.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.11.11.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Sp4rKy [n=Sp4rKy@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lutin [n=Lutin@ubuntu/member/lutin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_191143 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-26df613f5ef1d735] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-d4321a6e125e5c5c] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tokj [n=tokj@151.82.11.169] has joined #ubuntu-devel === guerby [n=guerby@gut75-4-82-235-162-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tokj [n=tokj@151.82.11.169] has left #ubuntu-devel ["BUFH"] === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_191143 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-b98649619d45954c] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thep [n=thep@125-25-58-210.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:47] it's slightly annoying that nm starts the network only after I've logged in [12:47] <_ion> Wireless? [12:47] nope [12:48] <_ion> Oh. For me, it has always started wired network automatically right after the daemon has been started. [12:48] I have my wireless broken since yesterday updates, any idea? [12:48] tepsipakki: same here [12:48] Anybody know why lists.ubuntu.com mailing lists are being delayed by at least 1.5 hours? [12:48] yesterday fabionne updated n-m, maybe that's the reason === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD9508A5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:48] I don't have the all the updates [12:49] <_ion> fujitsu: ubuntu-devel{,-discuss} are moderated. [12:49] that's the point, I can't load them since I can't login :) [12:49] feisty-changes is lagging behind a couple of _days_ [12:49] _ion: Yes, but ubuntu-bugs and feisty-changes are not. They normally have a latency of a few seconds. [12:49] <_ion> fujitsu: Ok [12:49] tepsipakki: I have stuff from 2 hours ago, but I uploaded something an hour ago and it's not there. [12:50] Fujitsu: oh yes, I meant the archive [12:50] Ah, that's fairly normal. [12:50] it started a week ago [12:51] It's always been a day, as far as I know. [12:51] nope [12:51] because of the new delay I decided to join the list ;) [12:51] Heh. [12:52] makes sense anyway [12:52] feisty-changes is useful, and good to keep up to date with. === lfittl [n=lfittl@213.129.230.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a81-14-202-38.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@122.167.96.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] _ion, devel-discuss isn't moderated, that't the whole point of devel-discuss :) [01:06] Seveas: that's what they WANT you to think :) [01:07] :p === ssam [n=ssam@87.127.117.246] has joined #ubuntu-devel === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Razor44 [n=kathy@ipa51.3.91.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pipboy [n=pipboy@xm82.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel 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https://launchpad.net/bugs/10000 [04:50] erm, 100000 ;) [04:51] Hah [04:53] hehe [04:53] yay, 100000 bugs! === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DA497.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === styx_ivs [n=kvirc@p57a496c6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-180-66-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:10] Fujitsu,tepsipakki: the machine that's doing the archiving can't keep up (and it's a good machine - it's more the software in this case) - the sysadmins are aware of it === sn0 [n=sno@unaffiliated/sn0] has joined #ubuntu-devel === juell [n=jga@p213.54.53.41.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vorian_ [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === styx| [n=kvirc@p57a496c6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo__ [n=slomo@pd9545f6a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === styx|347 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[06:23] on my system i got an previous installation of slackware (which will be overwritten by ubuntu) and the migration assistant simply hangs on looking for profiles on that installation === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:24] the slackware partition was reiserfs formatted [06:25] i had to delete the slack partitions before ubuntu installation in order to let the migration assistant work correctly === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thesaltydog [n=fabio@ubuntu/member/thesaltydog] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thesaltydog [n=fabio@ubuntu/member/thesaltydog] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === hyko [i=ajt@lives.at.unixuni.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@198.247.173.233] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desrt [n=desrt@dhcp-0-20-af-d2-7c-3.cpe.mountaincable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d54C0EE14.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desrt [n=desrt@72.12.165.48] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Znarl [n=znarl@jewel.roundabout.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imbrando1 [n=brandon@198.247.173.233] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desrt_ [n=desrt@dhcp-0-20-af-d2-7c-3.cpe.mountaincable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [i=mb@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-180-66-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === vanhoofp [n=pvanhoof@d54C0EE14.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Znarl [n=znarl@jewel.roundabout.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@80-47-154-121.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host226-159-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491f00c.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser_ [i=mb@2002:5361:2a04:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Marcus_ [n=Marcus@d83-189-40-47.cust.tele2.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@tuxhacker/pdpc.supporter.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === QuantumG [n=qg@biodome.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@80-47-154-121.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vprints [n=laur@213-35-243-62-dsl.end.estpak.ee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:06] Hey! [08:06] =) === comfurtn [n=kyle@mrtc-mm-600051.mis.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:07] Anybody here familiar with PCSC ? === mbiebl [n=michael@e180122069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === urbs [n=urbs@p54ae2b18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:24] will feisty perform better or slower on old machines compared to edgy ? [08:25] that depends on what you're installing [08:25] also, it's probably better to ask things like this on #ubuntu; this is a developer channel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:25] the plain gnome install [08:26] no response there, but no problem, was just curious [08:26] urbs: the best way to find out is to try, I guess === urbs [n=urbs@p54ae2b18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-devel === comfurtn [n=kyle@mrtc-mm-600051.mis.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === acacs [n=acacs@20132137148.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-096-183.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@80-47-154-121.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === linuxero [n=friki@64.Red-81-36-3.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:54] hello? === robertj [n=robertj@97.81.79.163] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:57] if a loco needs 200ish disks how long would it take for them to arrive after feisty gets released? [08:57] assuming they poked the appropriate persons === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Sp4rKy [n=Sp4rKy@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lutin [n=Lutin@ubuntu/member/lutin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Sp4rKy [n=Sp4rKy@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-devel === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:10] robertj: I think you'd need to ask said appropriate persons, TBH :-) [09:10] they'll have the best handle on details of likely delivery timings [09:10] thx, just trying to get a quick guestimate, but if it be email thats needed, email it tis [09:10] speaking of poking... === robertj pokes ajmitch === keremck [n=pulsar@81.215.211.45] has joined #ubuntu-devel === keremck [n=pulsar@81.215.211.45] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === hunger [n=tobias@p54A70EE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === styx|- [n=kvirc@p57a496c6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DA497.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === neonum6 [n=neonum6@87.18.252.85] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === styx|- [n=kvirc@p57a496c6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@80-47-154-121.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host21-248-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reitblatt [n=mark@w-mob400-128-62-216-79.public.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GmanAFK is now known as Gman === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@ACCE290D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-7b9b1a11f79bbcb6] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macd [n=d@adsl-156-69-140.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-096-183.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Enola_Gay [n=enola@dslb-084-056-214-105.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:14] hi all [11:15] If a bug status is set to "Fix released" are comments still sent to the devs and the other viewers? [11:15] I think so but I'm not positive [11:16] thx [11:16] yeah [11:16] they are :) [11:16] good so there is no need for a new bug report [11:16] thanks === popey [n=alan@ubuntu/member/popey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:17] is there a quick and easy guides to the process of requesting packages go from universe to main? [11:18] yes [11:19] popey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess === gatekeep [n=gatekeep@ool-4572173e.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] thanks mc44 === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:29] Is there any declaration why totem uses gstreamer instead of xine? [11:30] It isn't able to play dvds or at least not many. Even if they are unencrypted I guess because libdvdcss doesn't help in most cases. [11:35] Another question. Afaik libdvdcss2 is not in rep even multiverse because of law restriction but isn't the same file integrated in vlc which is in universe? [11:35] *lib [11:37] Enola_Gay: it is deleted from vlc tarball [11:39] mr_pouit: So vlc doesn't play encrypted dvds without libdvdcss2? [11:39] +in Ubuntu [11:40] I think so [11:40] I am going to check it. [11:42] mr_pouit: No, it works fine. [11:43] ups, only the menu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:43] mr_pouit: So you are right. [11:43] thx [11:44] Enola_Gay: np ;) [11:44] Enola_Gay: but I checked, and I think it isn't removed, only disabled : vlc_confflags += --enable-dvd --without-dvdcss === zerbero5 [n=jga@p213.54.20.166.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === zerbero__ [n=jga@p213.54.20.166.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [11:48] Imho Kaffeine has some big advantages too Totem since it uses xine by default. [11:49] Enola_Gay: totem-xine === mgalvin_ [n=mgalvin@cpe-74-67-44-20.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:53] Natallo but this could break something while upgrading to a new distribution version? [11:54] Enola_Gay: haven't done for me. btw, first letter + tab might help if you want me to get a hilight. [11:55] Nafallo: sorry, I know [11:55] :-) === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel