[01:37] <Chipzz> hrrrrm
[01:37] <Chipzz> wiki.ubuntu.com problems?
[01:39] <vorian> it would seem so Chipzz :)
[01:42] <vorian> ah, working again :)
[04:16] <tuna0> ok i think i found a bug
[04:16] <tuna0> `dmesg` shows: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004
[04:17] <tuna0> i can reproduce the bug. where to file it ?
[04:18] <tuna0> exec -n uname -r
[04:18] <tuna0> 2.6.17-11-386
[04:18] <tuna0> sorry!
[04:18] <tuna0> :)
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> Does anyone else not have sound in Feisty
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> I am grepping launchpad for bugs on this.
[05:02] <bluefoxicy> If I use gstreamer-properties to emit a test tone I have THAT, but everything else is silent.
[05:17] <Hobbsee> bluefoxicy: sounds like a #ubuntu+1 question.  besides, ti's a sunday
[05:22] <wesley> doing beta !
[05:22] <Amaranth> bluefoxicy: pulseaudio
[05:23] <Amaranth> bluefoxicy: asoundconf pulseaudio
[05:23] <Amaranth> see if that helps
[05:35] <bluefoxicy> Amaranth:  ALSA lib pcm.c:2106:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so
[05:35] <Amaranth> oh, you maybe don't have all the pulseaudio packages installed
[08:33] <zyga> hey everyone
[08:34] <Hobbsee> hi
[08:54] <Mithrandir> morning all
[09:02] <Hobbsee> heya Mithrandir!
[09:03] <Burgundavia> hey Mithrandir
[09:04] <Mithrandir> hiya StevenK, Hobbsee, Burgundavia 
[09:08] <Fujitsu> Mithrandir: Can you please try a give-back of xmms2?
[09:16] <Mithrandir> Fujitsu: given-back
[09:16] <Fujitsu> Mithrandir: Thanks.
[09:49] <Keybuk> so I have clearly *no* idea how grub or Linux determine the drive order
[09:49] <Keybuk> grub seems to see 1=hd0, 2=hd1, 3=hd2, but Linux seems to think sda=2, sdb=0, sdc=1
[09:51] <Keybuk> (at least I assume that's how grub sees them, it could be just that I haven't dared run install-grub :p)
[09:52] <Mithrandir> Keybuk: grub sees the BIOS order; some BIOS-es reorder the drives on bootup so the boot drive is 0x80, some don't.
[09:52] <Mithrandir> Linux just does them in the order the controller returns them in. :-P
[09:52] <Keybuk> heh
[09:53] <Keybuk> maybe the new drive is faster than the old one
[09:53] <Keybuk> (s)
[09:53] <Keybuk> what's now sda is the new 250GB I bought to put vmware and cd images on
[09:53] <Keybuk> or maybe it's because the new drive is SATA-II ?
[12:47] <tepsipakki> it's slightly annoying that nm starts the network only after I've logged in
[12:47] <_ion> Wireless?
[12:47] <tepsipakki> nope
[12:48] <_ion> Oh. For me, it has always started wired network automatically right after the daemon has been started.
[12:48] <pochu> I have my wireless broken since yesterday updates, any idea?
[12:48] <pochu> tepsipakki: same here
[12:48] <Fujitsu> Anybody know why lists.ubuntu.com mailing lists are being delayed by at least 1.5 hours?
[12:48] <pochu> yesterday fabionne updated n-m, maybe that's the reason
[12:48] <tepsipakki> I don't have the all the updates
[12:49] <_ion> fujitsu: ubuntu-devel{,-discuss} are moderated.
[12:49] <tepsipakki> that's the point, I can't load them since I can't login :)
[12:49] <tepsipakki> feisty-changes is lagging behind a couple of _days_
[12:49] <Fujitsu> _ion: Yes, but ubuntu-bugs and feisty-changes are not. They normally have a latency of a few seconds.
[12:49] <_ion> fujitsu: Ok
[12:49] <Fujitsu> tepsipakki: I have stuff from 2 hours ago, but I uploaded something an hour ago and it's not there.
[12:50] <tepsipakki> Fujitsu: oh yes, I meant the archive
[12:50] <Fujitsu> Ah, that's fairly normal.
[12:50] <tepsipakki> it started a week ago
[12:51] <Fujitsu> It's always been a day, as far as I know.
[12:51] <tepsipakki> nope
[12:51] <tepsipakki> because of the new delay I decided to join the list ;)
[12:51] <Fujitsu> Heh.
[12:52] <tepsipakki> makes sense anyway
[12:52] <Fujitsu> feisty-changes is useful, and good to keep up to date with.
[01:05] <Seveas> _ion, devel-discuss isn't moderated, that't the whole point of devel-discuss :)
[01:06] <Treenaks> Seveas: that's what they WANT you to think :)
[01:07] <Seveas> :p
[01:52] <_ion> seveas: All right. :-)
[04:49] <pitti> hi
[04:50] <pitti> ugh, we are this -><- close to bug #10000
[04:50] <ubotu> Malone bug 10000 in xorg "xserver-common: X crashed (signal 7) while scrolling in Mozilla" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10000
[04:50] <pitti> erm, 100000 ;)
[04:51] <StevenK> Hah
[04:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:53] <Hobbsee> yay, 100000 bugs!
[05:10] <cjwatson_> Fujitsu,tepsipakki: the machine that's doing the archiving can't keep up (and it's a good machine - it's more the software in this case) - the sysadmins are aware of it
[06:22] <Marcus_> hmm. i had several strange issues with the ubiquity user profile migration wizard on feisty.
[06:23] <Marcus_> on my system i got an previous installation of slackware (which will be overwritten by ubuntu) and the migration assistant simply hangs on looking for profiles on that installation
[06:24] <Marcus_> the slackware partition was reiserfs formatted
[06:25] <Marcus_> i had to delete the slack partitions before ubuntu installation in order to let the migration assistant work correctly
[08:06] <vprints> Hey!
[08:06] <vprints> =)
[08:07] <vprints> Anybody here familiar with PCSC ?
[08:24] <urbs> will feisty perform better or slower on old machines compared to edgy ?
[08:25] <Treenaks> that depends on what you're installing
[08:25] <Treenaks> also, it's probably better to ask things like this on #ubuntu; this is a developer channel
[08:25] <urbs> the plain gnome install
[08:26] <urbs> no response there, but no problem, was just curious
[08:26] <Treenaks> urbs: the best way to find out is to try, I guess
[08:54] <linuxero> hello?
[08:57] <robertj> if a loco needs 200ish disks how long would it take for them to arrive after feisty gets released?
[08:57] <robertj> assuming they poked the appropriate persons
[09:10] <cjwatson_> robertj: I think you'd need to ask said appropriate persons, TBH :-)
[09:10] <cjwatson_> they'll have the best handle on details of likely delivery timings
[09:10] <robertj> thx, just trying to get a quick guestimate, but if it be email thats needed, email it tis
[09:10] <robertj> speaking of poking...
[11:14] <Enola_Gay> hi all
[11:15] <Enola_Gay> If a bug status is set to "Fix released" are comments still sent to the devs and the other viewers?
[11:15] <Laser_away> I think so but I'm not positive
[11:16] <Enola_Gay> thx
[11:16] <jdong> yeah
[11:16] <jdong> they are :)
[11:16] <Enola_Gay> good so there is no need for a new bug report
[11:16] <Enola_Gay> thanks
[11:17] <popey> is there a quick and easy guides to the process of requesting packages go from universe to main?
[11:18] <Burgundavia> yes
[11:19] <mc44> popey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess
[11:20] <popey> thanks mc44 
[11:29] <Enola_Gay> Is there any declaration why totem uses gstreamer instead of xine?
[11:30] <Enola_Gay> It isn't able to play dvds or at least not many. Even if they are unencrypted I guess because libdvdcss doesn't help in most cases.
[11:35] <Enola_Gay> Another question. Afaik libdvdcss2 is not in rep even multiverse because of law restriction but isn't the same file integrated in vlc which is in universe?
[11:35] <Enola_Gay> *lib
[11:37] <mr_pouit> Enola_Gay: it is deleted from vlc tarball
[11:39] <Enola_Gay> mr_pouit: So vlc doesn't play encrypted dvds without libdvdcss2?
[11:39] <Enola_Gay> +in Ubuntu
[11:40] <mr_pouit> I think so
[11:40] <Enola_Gay> I am going to check it.
[11:42] <Enola_Gay> mr_pouit: No, it works fine.
[11:43] <Enola_Gay> ups, only the menu
[11:43] <Enola_Gay> mr_pouit: So you are right.
[11:43] <Enola_Gay> thx
[11:44] <mr_pouit> Enola_Gay: np ;)
[11:44] <mr_pouit> Enola_Gay: but I checked, and I think it isn't removed, only disabled : vlc_confflags += --enable-dvd --without-dvdcss
[11:48] <Enola_Gay> Imho Kaffeine has some big advantages too Totem since it uses xine by default.
[11:49] <Nafallo> Enola_Gay: totem-xine
[11:53] <Enola_Gay> Natallo but this could break something while upgrading to a new distribution version?
[11:54] <Nafallo> Enola_Gay: haven't done for me. btw, first letter + tab might help if you want me to get a hilight.
[11:55] <Enola_Gay> Nafallo: sorry, I know
[11:55] <Nafallo> :-)