[12:23] <billbrasky> cool
[12:24] <majoridiot> :)
[12:24] <billbrasky> i'm aware of the restricted formats, just didn't see 'em mentioned in the myth guides explicitly
[12:24] <majoridiot> they will be in a few minutes.  adding them now.
[12:24] <billbrasky> i was using knoppmyth, but the last release was really bad
[12:24] <billbrasky> so i'm looking to try ubuntu + myth
[12:24] <majoridiot> it's GREAT on ubuntu
[12:25] <majoridiot> and there will be an mythbuntu edition coming out soon...
[12:25] <billbrasky> i've been using ubuntu since 5.04, so i'm familiar with it, i just didn't want to lose the decent support knoppmyth had (aka not many or any that were using myth on ubuntu)
[12:25] <billbrasky> no kidding
[12:25] <majoridiot> no kidding
[12:25] <billbrasky> nice
[12:25] <majoridiot> a month or so, likely...
[12:25] <majoridiot> they are working VERY hard on it.  among other things.  LOL
[12:25] <billbrasky> hmm, i need to see if i gotta do anything for ATI remote wonder support
[12:26] <billbrasky> it is supported in the kernel, not sure if i gotta configure something to load at boot time
[12:26] <billbrasky> good to hear
[12:26] <majoridiot> well...
[12:27] <majoridiot> the new release of ubuntu (7.04 feisty fawn) is coming out in a few weeks...
[12:27] <majoridiot> and there are great new mythtv installation packages for it... updated guide as well.
[12:28] <majoridiot> here is the link to the hardware page
[12:28] <majoridiot> includes ATI wonder
[12:28] <majoridiot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_hardware_list
[12:29] <billbrasky> remote wonder is just a usb/RF remote... not tuner
[12:30] <billbrasky> looks like there are some threads on using the remote with ubuntu on the forums, sounds like it's going good
[12:30] <billbrasky> i think i'll wait on feisty
[12:30] <billbrasky> i want something pretty stable - i'm building a media center for my parents
[12:30] <majoridiot> yes
[12:31] <majoridiot> i have seen those threads as well
[12:31] <billbrasky> the other one i'm building is my own, so i can get stupid with that one
[12:31] <majoridiot> mythtv use only or also for computing needs?
[12:31] <majoridiot> (parents one)
[12:31] <billbrasky> dedicated myth
[12:31] <majoridiot> :)
[12:32] <majoridiot> there's a GREAT feisty package for that
[12:32] <majoridiot> installs great, keeps the frontend logged-in...
[12:32] <majoridiot> perfect for that.
[12:33] <billbrasky> i see
[12:34] <billbrasky> is it a separate customized package, versus desktop or frontend / backend only systems?
[12:34] <majoridiot> yes.  pretty much just what you need
[12:35] <majoridiot> minimal windows
[12:35] <majoridiot> no real desktop.  no extra packages or software.
[12:35] <majoridiot> versus the desktop install.
[12:35] <billbrasky> for the one system it has a hauppauge pvr 500 - i have to install ivtv separate, correct?
[12:36] <majoridiot> i hope not
[12:36] <billbrasky> ah, i see your name next to the firewire testing...
[12:37] <majoridiot> i haven't talked with a 500 owner...
[12:37] <majoridiot> but the 150's etc. seem to work out of the box
[12:37] <billbrasky> i see
[12:37] <majoridiot> i have 2 150's and feisty configures them on install ;)
[12:37] <billbrasky> i saw a link to an ivtv install page next to hauppauge info
[12:37] <billbrasky> nice
[12:37] <billbrasky> how is firewire capture working? I tried it once with knoppmyth and an older kernel... had problems
[12:38] <majoridiot> yes.. for edgy release.  feisty has kernel support for ivtv.
[12:38] <billbrasky> 6200 Motorola box
[12:38] <majoridiot> what stb do you use?
[12:38] <majoridiot> :)
[12:38] <majoridiot> awesome
[12:38] <majoridiot> me too
[12:38] <majoridiot> works great!
[12:38] <billbrasky> i captured a total of 15 seconds of vid, and never worked again
[12:38] <billbrasky> no shit
[12:38] <billbrasky> innerestin...
[12:38] <majoridiot> (as long as your cable company plays nice)
[12:38] <billbrasky> yea
[12:38] <billbrasky> the output did work
[12:38] <majoridiot> i can defiinitely help you get it going.
[12:38] <billbrasky> but it seemed to change firewire ports or whatever each time i powered the pc or stb down
[12:39] <billbrasky> good quality recording?
[12:39] <billbrasky> any flakiness?
[12:39] <billbrasky> who is your provider, and what area are you in, if you don't mind me asking...
[12:39] <billbrasky> ?
[12:39] <majoridiot> mine is 100% stable excellent pic and video quality.  will do HD even.
[12:39] <billbrasky> man, i had given up on the idea of doing any HD recording...
[12:39] <billbrasky> sweet
[12:39] <majoridiot> insight cable, central il.
[12:39] <billbrasky> ah, i'm in chicago
[12:40] <billbrasky> comcast for me
[12:40] <majoridiot> the trick with firewire is to get a stable connection... and then interface it with mythv init scripts.
[12:40] <majoridiot> bloomington
[12:40] <billbrasky> the firewire support was one reason i was looking into ubuntu + myth... most others want to use older kernels/drivers etc
[12:40] <billbrasky> most others => other distros/myth install guides
[12:40] <majoridiot> have you seen this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire
[12:41] <billbrasky> i saw the link to it, didn't read it yet
[12:41] <majoridiot> it was developed specifically for the 6200 and mythtv
[12:41] <majoridiot> (by an idiot) ;)
[12:41] <majoridiot> also works well with the scientific atlanta boxes
[12:41] <billbrasky> nice guide
[12:41] <billbrasky> :-)
[12:41] <majoridiot> ty
[12:42] <billbrasky> my gf has been bothering me to get the new system going. if i tell her it can do HD, she's gonna be really bothering me.
[12:42] <billbrasky> crap  ;)
[12:42] <billbrasky> (i sold her on myth a while ago)
[12:42] <majoridiot> well...
[12:43] <majoridiot> recording and streaming HD is no problem with firewire...
[12:43] <majoridiot> but you still have to have the muscle to play it back
[12:43] <billbrasky> yea
[12:43] <majoridiot> k
[12:43] <billbrasky> i built this system sp for hd recording/tuning
[12:43] <majoridiot> didn't want false impressions.
[12:43] <majoridiot> awesome
[12:43] <majoridiot> have you checked to see if your HD channels are 5C encrypted?
[12:43] <billbrasky> it's probably got more than is really necessary for it, but i got friends that have hardware hookups for me
[12:44] <billbrasky> haha
[12:44] <billbrasky> no i'm not sure about the 5c
[12:44] <majoridiot> k...
[12:44] <majoridiot> at the end of the firewire guide it tells you how to check
[12:44] <billbrasky> that was step #2 after getting the firewire working on my system (last time i tried)
[12:44] <billbrasky> didn't get past that
[12:45] <billbrasky> avsforums have regional threads for info too i think
[12:45] <majoridiot> follow that guide from start to finish and i guarantee it will work- (cable co dependent)
[12:45] <billbrasky> have you heard/seen  issues dependent on stb firmware?
[12:46] <majoridiot> the only 5C channels are the pay ones and the pay HD package.  all others are open and non 5C
[12:46] <billbrasky> pay HD package?
[12:46] <majoridiot> only old firmware.  that shouldn't be a concern for you these days.
[12:46] <billbrasky> i'm looking for Discovery HD in particular...  inHD, maybe a couple others
[12:46] <billbrasky> i think that is part of a pay package
[12:47] <billbrasky> :-/
[12:47] <majoridiot> my provider has an additional lineup of HD you have to pay for.  only 6 or so are free- and of those, 5 are broken for firewire. :(
[12:47] <majoridiot> once you pay, they might not be encrypted.
[12:48] <majoridiot> might not hurt to ask.
[12:49] <majoridiot> that guide was written *specifically* because mythtv firewire info was so sketchy and unreliable.  it took me months to get it all figured out.
[12:50] <billbrasky> i believe it.
[12:50] <billbrasky> i didn't read it yet, but have you got channel change control working via firewire too?
[12:50] <majoridiot> (like info on a LOT of things, unfortunately)
[12:50] <majoridiot> it's built-in to mythtv now :)
[12:50] <majoridiot> no external changer needed
[12:50] <billbrasky> woot
[12:51] <majoridiot> no... keep the blaster.  i use mine to shut the stb on and off.
[12:51] <billbrasky> yea
[12:51] <majoridiot> hehe
[12:51] <billbrasky> nice idea
[12:51] <billbrasky> tho once i get this going, the gf is gonna set about 20hrs a day of programming to record
[12:51] <billbrasky> so stb won't ever be turned off  ;-)
[12:51] <majoridiot> power rates went crazy here.  had to set it up to conserve power as much as possible.
[12:51] <billbrasky> ah
[12:51] <billbrasky> i hear ya
[12:51] <majoridiot> also- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/ACPIWake
[12:52] <majoridiot> is nice if it works on your mobo
[12:53] <billbrasky> very complete...
[12:53] <majoridiot> ty
[12:53] <billbrasky> how many guys are working/developing for ubuntu + myth ?
[12:53] <majoridiot> boards are lowly being added to the list as people find it
[12:53] <majoridiot> dunno for sure.  maybe 6?
[12:53] <majoridiot> superm1 will know for sure
[12:53] <billbrasky> acpi was so sketchy before i never even considered it
[12:54] <majoridiot> what mobo you got?
[12:54] <billbrasky> you guys hang out here pretty often?
[12:54] <majoridiot> yes.  we try to.
[12:57] <billbrasky> Foxconn P9657AA-8KS2H & Intel core 2 duo E6400
[12:57] <majoridiot> hehe
[12:57] <billbrasky> nice
[12:58] <billbrasky> i got an nvidia 7800 for this box too...
[12:58] <billbrasky> we'll see how that works *crossing fingers*
[12:59] <billbrasky> woof
[01:00] <majoridiot> yeah, it just kinda snickers at HD streams... whilst doing everything else in the world.
[01:00] <majoridiot> LOL
[01:05] <majoridiot> hm... ACPI could very well work with that mobo.
[01:06] <billbrasky> awesome
[01:06] <billbrasky> i was depressed about myth since my last knoppmyth install, but i'm excited about it again ;)
[01:07] <billbrasky> i was raving about linux/myth to a buddy of mine, talked him into building a system, got the new knoppmyth release (like 2-3 months ago) and had nothing but problems
[01:08] <billbrasky> problems don't bother me, but after i promised him a stable, fast system and all we had was difficulty... i felt real bad
[01:08] <billbrasky> he's a windows guy, so it really sucked to expose him to linux this way
[01:08] <majoridiot> wait until he sees myth on ubuntu
[01:08] <billbrasky> have you played with linux mce at all?
[01:09] <majoridiot> MCE is a playtoy by comparison.
[01:09] <billbrasky> yea, agreed
[01:09] <majoridiot> (windows)
[01:09] <billbrasky> i used mce for 2-3 years, then moved to myth 2-3 years ago
[01:09] <majoridiot> no.  never did play with linux MCE.  myth is all i really need.
[01:09] <billbrasky> i hear ya
[01:09] <billbrasky> i just ran across the linux mce thing, was trying to install it in a virtual machine... never got it to go
[01:10] <billbrasky> man, there are a lot of ubuntu-myth pages going, glad to see that
[01:10] <billbrasky> need to add a myth section to the ubuntu forums
[01:10] <majoridiot> the installation process has improved dramatically on ubuntu.  if you follow the guides, there should be many fewer hangups.
[01:11] <majoridiot> we want one.
[01:11] <majoridiot> can't have one unless a mythtv dev gets involved to maintain it
[01:11] <majoridiot> we're hoping for a sticky with a link to the guides soon.
[01:12] <billbrasky> ah
[01:12] <majoridiot> 99% of the forum posts on mythtv installation nightmares are because they either did not follow the guide or didn't know the guides existed.
[01:12] <billbrasky> yes
[01:12] <billbrasky> i usually am really up on ubuntu stuff, and i wasn't aware how well you guys have done
[01:13] <billbrasky> argh.. just remembered i was having hardware probs with this new system
[01:13] <billbrasky> need to go back over my notes
[01:13] <billbrasky> that mobo has a 8 pin power plug i've not seen before.. i need to get an adapter for it
[01:14] <billbrasky> not sure what the form factor is
[01:14] <majoridiot> personally, i'd like to see ubuntu become the mythtv distro of choice with new users.
[01:14] <billbrasky> right...
[01:14] <billbrasky> ubuntu seems to be most user friendly for most anything out there
[01:14] <billbrasky> best community support
[01:15] <majoridiot> great community support
[01:15] <majoridiot> i just picked up two APC UPS systems...
[01:15] <billbrasky> that was the main reason i went with ubuntu in the first place
[01:16] <billbrasky> every other distro i used, i ran into problems and could not work through them
[01:16] <billbrasky> (being a beginner linux user)
[01:16] <majoridiot> with a forums search, they were up and running is less than 30 minutes- most of which was unpacking and unplugging.
[01:16] <majoridiot> i came to ubuntu as a total noob in august
[01:16] <billbrasky> yea, i ran into that  exact situation like on 25 different instances
[01:16] <billbrasky> whether it was a program problem, hardware problem, config etc
[01:16] <majoridiot> yup.
[01:17] <majoridiot> and not a lot of flaming.  it does happen.. but not so many RTFMs.
[01:17] <billbrasky> right
[01:17] <billbrasky> they do a good job of moderating
[01:19] <majoridiot> agreed.
[02:16] <Xenocide> majoridiot how do i disable the timer in mplayer while im watching it turns off the screen
[02:16] <majoridiot> hm.
[02:16] <majoridiot> dunno.
[02:16] <majoridiot> sec.
[02:24] <majoridiot> Xenocide: do you normally run a screensaver?
[02:25] <majoridiot> (sorry was occupied)
[02:29] <majoridiot> gotta eat.  back later.
[03:17] <Xenocide> yo
[03:19] <keescook> superm1: I should have a system to test lirc with in a bit; then I'll likely try to shove your patch into the package, since it doesn't look like it should effect anything negatively (it still builds) and it only *adds* functionality.  :)
[03:27] <majoridiot> :)
[03:41] <Xenocide> majoridiot where can i find a site with all the keyboard keys for mythtv so i can program my remote's lircrc
[03:43] <majoridiot> http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1
[03:43] <majoridiot> also ... www.google.com :P
[03:43] <majoridiot> hehe
[03:44] <Xenocide> google lied to me
[03:44] <Xenocide> the lircrc files i found don't seem to work
[03:44] <Xenocide> lol
[03:44] <majoridiot> you have the funky RC-6 remote, right?
[03:44] <Xenocide> eh?
[03:45] <Xenocide> i have the standard pvr-150 remote
[03:45] <majoridiot> usb sensor or plug into card?
[03:45] <Xenocide> which is making me scratch my head why its not working properly
[03:45] <Xenocide> plug into card
[03:45] <majoridiot> k
[03:45] <Xenocide> some buttons work
[03:45] <Xenocide> irw reconizes all the buttons so its not lircd
[03:45] <majoridiot> k
[03:46] <majoridiot> where is your lircrc file located?
[03:46] <Xenocide> ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[03:46] <Xenocide> some buttons work
[03:46] <Xenocide> but most don't
[03:46] <majoridiot> k
[03:46] <majoridiot> sec
[03:46] <majoridiot> did you use this one? http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircrc-haupgrey-g3.txt
[03:47] <majoridiot> that should be the one for your remote
[03:47] <majoridiot> save it in your home folder as .lircrc (that's with a perdios to make it hidden)
[03:48] <majoridiot> and then: rm ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[03:48] <majoridiot> and ln -s ~/.mythtv/lircrc ~/.lircrc
[03:48] <majoridiot> which will make a symbolic link to it.  i find that makes it more resonsive
[03:48] <majoridiot> responsive
[03:49] <majoridiot> you may beed to change a few of the keys in that file to suit your preferences...
[03:49] <majoridiot> and then don't forget to re-start the frontend for the changes to take effect.
[03:50] <majoridiot> ok?
[03:55] <Xenocide> hm
[03:55] <Xenocide> well
[03:55] <Xenocide> i did it at /.mythtv/lircrc
[03:55] <Xenocide> im trying it now
[03:55] <Xenocide> ill try that in a second
[03:56] <majoridiot> it will work that way too
[03:56] <majoridiot> i just found it worked better the other way.  whichever works for you. :)
[03:57] <Xenocide> everyythign seems to work except for guide, channel and volume
[03:57] <Xenocide> let me look through this lircrc file you gav eme
[03:57] <majoridiot> guide should be S from livetv
[03:58] <Xenocide> hm this thing has it bound as f3
[03:58] <majoridiot> yes
[03:58] <majoridiot> weird bindings on a few
[03:58] <Xenocide> i guess ill just have to play with it
[03:58] <Xenocide> and that link you gave me to the mythwiki
[03:58] <majoridiot> that's why i suggested checking
[03:58] <majoridiot> volume up and down are [ and ]  respectively
[03:58] <majoridiot> you want mine?
[03:59] <majoridiot> i have the same remote on my backend.
[03:59] <Xenocide> do you have it setup for mplayer as well
[03:59] <majoridiot> lemme check.sec
[04:01] <Xenocide> this guide you linked me to doens't even say S for guide, it says M
[04:02] <majoridiot> CRAP
[04:02] <majoridiot> just wrecked my frontend lircrc :(
[04:02] <majoridiot> yes.  it has those definitions.  you want it?
[04:02] <majoridiot> that will bring up the menu for the guide.
[04:02] <majoridiot> S brings it up sirectly
[04:02] <majoridiot> directly
[04:03] <Xenocide> yes please
[04:05] <Xenocide> don't think thats going to work through school firewall
[04:05] <Xenocide> can you email it
[04:05] <majoridiot> yes
[04:05] <majoridiot> ?
[04:07] <Xenocide> got it thanks
[04:07] <majoridiot> yw
[04:09] <Xenocide> this one looks identical to the one i downloaded
[04:09] <Xenocide> volume is f-keys
[04:09] <majoridiot> i might not configured those yet.  still setting those up
[04:09] <majoridiot> vol up [
[04:10] <majoridiot> vol dn ] 
[04:10] <EnderTheThird> Would anyone here be able to help me with Zap2it and Updating my channels in MythTV?  I finally got Ubuntu recognizing my HD-5500's, now I just need to use them
[04:10] <majoridiot> Ender: you have a zap2it acct set up with channels?
[04:10] <Xenocide> odd
[04:10] <Xenocide> formatting comes un done when i paste it
[04:10] <majoridiot> (reversed the volup and down)
[04:11] <Xenocide> how come when i paste it i lose all the returns
[04:12] <EnderTheThird> major: yes
[04:13] <majoridiot> ender: you need to delete the current channel profile in mythtv-setup (5. channel editor)...
[04:13] <majoridiot> then...
[04:13] <majoridiot> add the new source (3.)
[04:13] <majoridiot> and bind it to all your tuners in (4.)
[04:14] <majoridiot> in (3.) "retrieve the channels from the listing service" will grab your channels you have set up at zap2it
[04:16] <EnderTheThird> workin on that now
[04:16] <majoridiot> k
[04:16] <Xenocide> hehe now it doesnt' work at all
[04:17] <Xenocide> ill just use the one i was using before and customize it
[04:21] <Xenocide> hehe
[04:21] <Xenocide> it just might have not been compatable with my lirc.conf
[04:22] <Xenocide> channel up and down are bound to the ringt things but don't seem to be working
[04:23] <majoridiot> nothing is working here.  can't locate the backup lircrc.
[04:23] <Xenocide> ah button n ames don't match :)
[04:24] <majoridiot> hm.
[04:24] <majoridiot> oh.. that was someone else i told that.  LOL
[04:24] <majoridiot> case-sensitive
[04:34] <Xenocide> pretty much workin how i want
[04:37] <majoridiot> :)
[04:38] <majoridiot> it's just matching the name in lircd to the buttons in lircrc to the keypress
[04:38] <majoridiot> tedious, but that's all.
[04:53] <Xenocide> yea
[04:53] <Xenocide> i just wish i could instantly change channels
[04:53] <majoridiot> patience win out?
[04:53] <Xenocide> with theh channel up and down buttons
[04:53] <Xenocide> instead of doing that then ok
[04:53] <majoridiot> you CAN
[04:53] <Xenocide> ....
[04:53] <Xenocide> i didnt' see it in the wiki key thingy
[04:54] <majoridiot> it's called "browse  mode"
[04:54] <majoridiot> you want it off.
[04:54] <Xenocide> hm
[04:54] <Xenocide> no
[04:54] <Xenocide> but i want to be able to do BOTH
[04:54] <majoridiot> LMMFAO
[04:54] <Xenocide> the browse mode with the up and down arrows
[04:54] <Xenocide> and channel up and down with the ch annel key
[04:54] <Xenocide> i know i could do that
[04:54] <majoridiot> can you config the keyboard to do it?
[04:55] <Xenocide> not that i saw
[04:55] <Xenocide> yea
[04:55] <Xenocide> ill keep looking but i don't haeve my hopes up
[04:55] <majoridiot> one or the other.  you are just being difficult. :P
[04:55] <Xenocide> my next goal is to setup the mythvideo to look up images and stuff
[04:55] <Xenocide> its not automatically grabbing stuff from idbm
[04:55] <Xenocide> imdb
[04:55] <Xenocide> i just have to play with the seutp
[04:56] <majoridiot> yup
[04:56] <majoridiot> LOTS to configure.
[04:56] <Xenocide> yea
[04:56] <Xenocide> and not enough time
[04:56] <majoridiot> TELL ME about it
[04:56] <majoridiot> hehe
[04:56] <Xenocide> atleast the damn semester is wrapping up
[04:56] <Xenocide> little over a month left
[08:50] <EnderTheThird> Don't suppose anyone in here has had some luck with the pcHDTV HD-5500?
[10:25] <majoridiot> ping: Xenocide
[10:26] <superm1>  hey majoridiot
[10:27] <majoridiot> 'lo superm1
[10:27] <superm1> how goes your april fools?
[10:27] <superm1> fall for google TiSP?
[10:27] <superm1> :)
[10:27] <majoridiot> hm.  never realized it was april fool's.
[10:27] <majoridiot> lol... no just pulling it up now.
[10:28] <majoridiot> LOL @ "want wifi around?  just flush it down"
[10:28] <superm1> i put it in my away message on aim/gtalk.  my mom signed online earlier and clicked the link.  she calls me, and is like mario how do they do that????
[10:28] <majoridiot> hehe
[10:28] <majoridiot> too funny
[10:29] <superm1> finally an explanation for all that dark fiber they're running...
[10:29] <superm1> that and gmail paper today was announced
[10:29] <majoridiot> dark fiber indeed.
[10:29] <majoridiot> lol @ gmail paaper
[10:29] <superm1> i love google's acceptance of april fools.  i look forward every year to hearing their crazy antics
[10:30] <majoridiot> agreed.
[10:30] <majoridiot> again.
[10:30] <superm1> oh, have important stuff to do today?
[10:31] <majoridiot> just some guide work.
[10:32] <majoridiot> meant lost track of time in reference to actual month.  LOL
[10:32] <superm1> ah.  i've been trolling the forums a bit today and trying to do homework throughout the day
[10:32] <superm1> haha
[10:34] <gardengnome> procrastinate now!
[10:35] <superm1> gardengnome, well i should emphasize the *trying to do homework*.  i've been up since 9am.  all i really accomplished was a short two sentance answer to a 5 problem assignment.  oh and i watched LOST.
[10:35] <superm1> so its been a lot more of forum trolling
[10:36] <superm1> our EE servers were down all day too, so i couldnt get any of the lab or senior design stuff done that i needed
[10:36] <superm1> so its not all my fault....
[10:37] <gardengnome> i'm supposed to be studying for my finals. guess i'll start tomorrow. ;=)
[10:38] <superm1> ... knock on wood.  servers just came back.  okay off to campus for me :)
[10:53] <majoridiot> ping Xenocide: incoming email
[10:54] <Xenocide> god i love this MOTO Q
[10:54] <Xenocide> i was in the other room watching tv and it popped up on my phone
[10:55] <Xenocide> sorta what i wanted, but i wanted to not have to toggle
[10:55] <Xenocide> close enough, i might do it though, thanks!
[10:55] <majoridiot> the only way i can see to do it.
[11:01] <Xenocide> im still pondering feisty on the laptop
[11:01] <majoridiot> have you tried the live disk?
[11:02] <Xenocide> i had it on the laptpo before
[11:02] <majoridiot> as long as it detects and sets up all of the hardware correctly.
[11:02] <Xenocide> just printer support was poor with my HP all in one and office was holdin me back
[11:02] <Xenocide> but i guess i can use crossover
[11:02] <Xenocide> i still haven't tried beryl 2.0
[11:03] <majoridiot> are you running the hplip drivers for your all in one?
[11:03] <Xenocide> yea
[11:03] <Xenocide> printing stil seems to get cut off
[11:03] <Xenocide> and text is way too big
[11:03] <Xenocide> might just take some goofing around with
[11:04] <majoridiot> yeah.  if it's on the list of supported printers, then it's likely a config problem.
[11:04] <Xenocide> what the crap, DVD's now?
[11:04] <Xenocide> its on the list
[11:04] <Xenocide> but it doesnt' work well
[11:05] <majoridiot> DVDs?
[11:05] <Xenocide> the beta relase is 3.92 gigs...
[11:06] <Xenocide> the rc5 was just a regular cd
[11:06] <Xenocide> i guess more packages on the CD?
[11:06] <majoridiot> really?  you sure that's not source?
[11:07] <Xenocide> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/beta/
[11:07] <Xenocide> hm they also have cd ones
[11:08] <majoridiot> hm.  it is dvd.
[11:08] <majoridiot> interesting
[11:08] <Xenocide> at the topp you can click cd images
[11:09] <majoridiot> yeah... just never saw dvd packages b4
[11:11] <Xenocide> herd 5 my standby wasnt working
[11:11] <Xenocide> hopefully they fixed it
[11:11] <majoridiot> looks like the dvd includes the varios installs.  desktop, alternate, etc.
[11:11] <Xenocide> oh really
[11:11] <Xenocide> thast pretty nice
[11:12] <majoridiot> i'm gonna grab it and see exacly what it is.
[11:12] <Xenocide> yea everyone on ubuntu forums is reporting my laptop sleep and hibernate doesnt' work with beta either
[11:12] <majoridiot> would save me having to burn and keep track of so many cds.
[11:12] <Xenocide> i use dvd rws
[11:12] <Xenocide> love em
[11:12] <Xenocide> stole some from the kid down the hall :)
[11:12] <Xenocide> haha
[11:12] <Xenocide> just burn regular cd isos to them works great
[11:12] <Xenocide> way faster than CD-rws
[11:14] <majoridiot> i need them to work on 3 different boxes and have LOUSY luck getting rws to read from drvie to drive.
[11:14] <Xenocide> yea
[11:15] <Xenocide> man id do this, but sleep id essential for running from class to class
[11:15] <majoridiot> ubuntu has GOT to do something about their severs.
[11:15] <majoridiot> expecting someone to download cd and dvd images at 30K is ridiculous.
[11:16] <majoridiot> bittorrent is pointless too.  egads.
[11:19] <Xenocide> yea
[11:19] <Xenocide> i was geting 30kbps on bitorrent on it
[11:19] <Xenocide> so i gave up
[11:19] <Xenocide> if i use a downoad manager it works fine
[11:19] <Xenocide> try DownloadAcceleratorPlus for firefox
[11:19] <Xenocide> completely intergrated, fast as hell
[11:22] <majoridiot> gettin it from iu.edu @ 1200K
[11:22] <majoridiot> cd image... they don't have the dvd
[11:27] <Xenocide> :(
[11:27] <Xenocide> my max here at school is 350kbps which is pathetic for a campus connection
[11:28] <Xenocide> DAP should still work in linux
[11:28] <Xenocide> its a firefox plugin
[11:28] <Xenocide> no external application
[11:28] <majoridiot> hm