[12:23] cool [12:24] :) [12:24] i'm aware of the restricted formats, just didn't see 'em mentioned in the myth guides explicitly [12:24] they will be in a few minutes. adding them now. [12:24] i was using knoppmyth, but the last release was really bad [12:24] so i'm looking to try ubuntu + myth [12:24] it's GREAT on ubuntu [12:25] and there will be an mythbuntu edition coming out soon... [12:25] i've been using ubuntu since 5.04, so i'm familiar with it, i just didn't want to lose the decent support knoppmyth had (aka not many or any that were using myth on ubuntu) [12:25] no kidding [12:25] no kidding [12:25] nice [12:25] a month or so, likely... [12:25] they are working VERY hard on it. among other things. LOL [12:25] hmm, i need to see if i gotta do anything for ATI remote wonder support [12:26] it is supported in the kernel, not sure if i gotta configure something to load at boot time [12:26] good to hear [12:26] well... [12:27] the new release of ubuntu (7.04 feisty fawn) is coming out in a few weeks... [12:27] and there are great new mythtv installation packages for it... updated guide as well. [12:28] here is the link to the hardware page [12:28] includes ATI wonder [12:28] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_hardware_list [12:29] remote wonder is just a usb/RF remote... not tuner [12:30] looks like there are some threads on using the remote with ubuntu on the forums, sounds like it's going good [12:30] i think i'll wait on feisty [12:30] i want something pretty stable - i'm building a media center for my parents [12:30] yes [12:31] i have seen those threads as well [12:31] the other one i'm building is my own, so i can get stupid with that one [12:31] mythtv use only or also for computing needs? [12:31] (parents one) [12:31] dedicated myth [12:31] :) [12:32] there's a GREAT feisty package for that [12:32] installs great, keeps the frontend logged-in... [12:32] perfect for that. [12:33] i see [12:34] is it a separate customized package, versus desktop or frontend / backend only systems? [12:34] yes. pretty much just what you need [12:35] minimal windows [12:35] no real desktop. no extra packages or software. [12:35] versus the desktop install. [12:35] for the one system it has a hauppauge pvr 500 - i have to install ivtv separate, correct? [12:36] i hope not [12:36] ah, i see your name next to the firewire testing... [12:37] i haven't talked with a 500 owner... [12:37] but the 150's etc. seem to work out of the box [12:37] i see [12:37] i have 2 150's and feisty configures them on install ;) [12:37] i saw a link to an ivtv install page next to hauppauge info [12:37] nice [12:37] how is firewire capture working? I tried it once with knoppmyth and an older kernel... had problems [12:38] yes.. for edgy release. feisty has kernel support for ivtv. [12:38] 6200 Motorola box [12:38] what stb do you use? [12:38] :) [12:38] awesome [12:38] me too [12:38] works great! [12:38] i captured a total of 15 seconds of vid, and never worked again [12:38] no shit [12:38] innerestin... [12:38] (as long as your cable company plays nice) [12:38] yea [12:38] the output did work [12:38] i can defiinitely help you get it going. [12:38] but it seemed to change firewire ports or whatever each time i powered the pc or stb down [12:39] good quality recording? [12:39] any flakiness? [12:39] who is your provider, and what area are you in, if you don't mind me asking... [12:39] ? [12:39] mine is 100% stable excellent pic and video quality. will do HD even. [12:39] man, i had given up on the idea of doing any HD recording... [12:39] sweet [12:39] insight cable, central il. [12:39] ah, i'm in chicago [12:40] comcast for me [12:40] the trick with firewire is to get a stable connection... and then interface it with mythv init scripts. [12:40] bloomington [12:40] the firewire support was one reason i was looking into ubuntu + myth... most others want to use older kernels/drivers etc [12:40] most others => other distros/myth install guides [12:40] have you seen this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire [12:41] i saw the link to it, didn't read it yet [12:41] it was developed specifically for the 6200 and mythtv [12:41] (by an idiot) ;) [12:41] also works well with the scientific atlanta boxes [12:41] nice guide [12:41] :-) [12:41] ty [12:42] my gf has been bothering me to get the new system going. if i tell her it can do HD, she's gonna be really bothering me. [12:42] crap ;) [12:42] (i sold her on myth a while ago) [12:42] well... [12:43] recording and streaming HD is no problem with firewire... [12:43] but you still have to have the muscle to play it back [12:43] yea [12:43] k [12:43] i built this system sp for hd recording/tuning [12:43] didn't want false impressions. [12:43] awesome [12:43] have you checked to see if your HD channels are 5C encrypted? [12:43] it's probably got more than is really necessary for it, but i got friends that have hardware hookups for me === majoridiot just built a ridiculously overpowered beast, so he can relate [12:44] haha [12:44] no i'm not sure about the 5c [12:44] k... [12:44] at the end of the firewire guide it tells you how to check [12:44] that was step #2 after getting the firewire working on my system (last time i tried) [12:44] didn't get past that [12:45] avsforums have regional threads for info too i think === billbrasky can't recall if discovery etc were 5c or not...? [12:45] follow that guide from start to finish and i guarantee it will work- (cable co dependent) [12:45] have you heard/seen issues dependent on stb firmware? [12:46] the only 5C channels are the pay ones and the pay HD package. all others are open and non 5C [12:46] pay HD package? [12:46] only old firmware. that shouldn't be a concern for you these days. [12:46] i'm looking for Discovery HD in particular... inHD, maybe a couple others [12:46] i think that is part of a pay package [12:47] :-/ [12:47] my provider has an additional lineup of HD you have to pay for. only 6 or so are free- and of those, 5 are broken for firewire. :( [12:47] once you pay, they might not be encrypted. [12:48] might not hurt to ask. [12:49] that guide was written *specifically* because mythtv firewire info was so sketchy and unreliable. it took me months to get it all figured out. [12:50] i believe it. [12:50] i didn't read it yet, but have you got channel change control working via firewire too? [12:50] (like info on a LOT of things, unfortunately) [12:50] it's built-in to mythtv now :) [12:50] no external changer needed === billbrasky throws IR blaster out window [12:50] woot [12:51] no... keep the blaster. i use mine to shut the stb on and off. [12:51] yea [12:51] hehe [12:51] nice idea [12:51] tho once i get this going, the gf is gonna set about 20hrs a day of programming to record [12:51] so stb won't ever be turned off ;-) [12:51] power rates went crazy here. had to set it up to conserve power as much as possible. [12:51] ah [12:51] i hear ya [12:51] also- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/ACPIWake [12:52] is nice if it works on your mobo [12:53] very complete... [12:53] ty [12:53] how many guys are working/developing for ubuntu + myth ? [12:53] boards are lowly being added to the list as people find it [12:53] dunno for sure. maybe 6? [12:53] superm1 will know for sure [12:53] acpi was so sketchy before i never even considered it [12:54] what mobo you got? [12:54] you guys hang out here pretty often? [12:54] yes. we try to. === billbrasky scratches head.... [12:57] Foxconn P9657AA-8KS2H & Intel core 2 duo E6400 [12:57] hehe === majoridiot just built an E6300 [12:57] nice [12:58] i got an nvidia 7800 for this box too... [12:58] we'll see how that works *crossing fingers* === majoridiot put in 2 7600GTKO SLIs [12:59] woof [01:00] yeah, it just kinda snickers at HD streams... whilst doing everything else in the world. [01:00] LOL === majoridiot is looking at your mobo specs [01:05] hm... ACPI could very well work with that mobo. [01:06] awesome [01:06] i was depressed about myth since my last knoppmyth install, but i'm excited about it again ;) [01:07] i was raving about linux/myth to a buddy of mine, talked him into building a system, got the new knoppmyth release (like 2-3 months ago) and had nothing but problems [01:08] problems don't bother me, but after i promised him a stable, fast system and all we had was difficulty... i felt real bad [01:08] he's a windows guy, so it really sucked to expose him to linux this way [01:08] wait until he sees myth on ubuntu [01:08] have you played with linux mce at all? [01:09] MCE is a playtoy by comparison. [01:09] yea, agreed [01:09] (windows) [01:09] i used mce for 2-3 years, then moved to myth 2-3 years ago [01:09] no. never did play with linux MCE. myth is all i really need. [01:09] i hear ya [01:09] i just ran across the linux mce thing, was trying to install it in a virtual machine... never got it to go [01:10] man, there are a lot of ubuntu-myth pages going, glad to see that [01:10] need to add a myth section to the ubuntu forums [01:10] the installation process has improved dramatically on ubuntu. if you follow the guides, there should be many fewer hangups. === majoridiot cringes at the forum comment [01:11] we want one. [01:11] can't have one unless a mythtv dev gets involved to maintain it [01:11] we're hoping for a sticky with a link to the guides soon. [01:12] ah [01:12] 99% of the forum posts on mythtv installation nightmares are because they either did not follow the guide or didn't know the guides existed. [01:12] yes [01:12] i usually am really up on ubuntu stuff, and i wasn't aware how well you guys have done [01:13] argh.. just remembered i was having hardware probs with this new system [01:13] need to go back over my notes === billbrasky has too much going on [01:13] that mobo has a 8 pin power plug i've not seen before.. i need to get an adapter for it [01:14] not sure what the form factor is [01:14] personally, i'd like to see ubuntu become the mythtv distro of choice with new users. [01:14] right... [01:14] ubuntu seems to be most user friendly for most anything out there [01:14] best community support [01:15] great community support [01:15] i just picked up two APC UPS systems... [01:15] that was the main reason i went with ubuntu in the first place [01:16] every other distro i used, i ran into problems and could not work through them [01:16] (being a beginner linux user) [01:16] with a forums search, they were up and running is less than 30 minutes- most of which was unpacking and unplugging. [01:16] i came to ubuntu as a total noob in august [01:16] yea, i ran into that exact situation like on 25 different instances [01:16] whether it was a program problem, hardware problem, config etc [01:16] yup. [01:17] and not a lot of flaming. it does happen.. but not so many RTFMs. [01:17] right [01:17] they do a good job of moderating [01:19] agreed. === williammanda [n=william@c-68-53-216-97.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === majoridiot cringes at the speed of the ubuntu pages === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === varka_ [n=varkatop@p54a5e168.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Xenocide [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:16] majoridiot how do i disable the timer in mplayer while im watching it turns off the screen [02:16] hm. [02:16] dunno. [02:16] sec. === Xenocide^ [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:24] Xenocide: do you normally run a screensaver? [02:25] (sorry was occupied) [02:29] gotta eat. back later. === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Xenocide [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:17] yo [03:19] superm1: I should have a system to test lirc with in a bit; then I'll likely try to shove your patch into the package, since it doesn't look like it should effect anything negatively (it still builds) and it only *adds* functionality. :) [03:27] :) [03:41] majoridiot where can i find a site with all the keyboard keys for mythtv so i can program my remote's lircrc === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:43] http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1 [03:43] also ... www.google.com :P [03:43] hehe [03:44] google lied to me === majoridiot suspect google is female [03:44] the lircrc files i found don't seem to work [03:44] lol [03:44] you have the funky RC-6 remote, right? [03:44] eh? [03:45] i have the standard pvr-150 remote [03:45] usb sensor or plug into card? [03:45] which is making me scratch my head why its not working properly [03:45] plug into card [03:45] k [03:45] some buttons work [03:45] irw reconizes all the buttons so its not lircd [03:45] k [03:46] where is your lircrc file located? [03:46] ~/.mythtv/lircrc [03:46] some buttons work [03:46] but most don't [03:46] k [03:46] sec [03:46] did you use this one? http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircrc-haupgrey-g3.txt [03:47] that should be the one for your remote [03:47] save it in your home folder as .lircrc (that's with a perdios to make it hidden) [03:48] and then: rm ~/.mythtv/lircrc [03:48] and ln -s ~/.mythtv/lircrc ~/.lircrc [03:48] which will make a symbolic link to it. i find that makes it more resonsive [03:48] responsive [03:49] you may beed to change a few of the keys in that file to suit your preferences... [03:49] and then don't forget to re-start the frontend for the changes to take effect. [03:50] ok? [03:55] hm [03:55] well [03:55] i did it at /.mythtv/lircrc [03:55] im trying it now [03:55] ill try that in a second [03:56] it will work that way too [03:56] i just found it worked better the other way. whichever works for you. :) [03:57] everyythign seems to work except for guide, channel and volume [03:57] let me look through this lircrc file you gav eme [03:57] guide should be S from livetv [03:58] hm this thing has it bound as f3 [03:58] yes [03:58] weird bindings on a few [03:58] i guess ill just have to play with it [03:58] and that link you gave me to the mythwiki [03:58] that's why i suggested checking [03:58] volume up and down are [ and ] respectively [03:58] you want mine? [03:59] i have the same remote on my backend. [03:59] do you have it setup for mplayer as well [03:59] lemme check.sec [04:01] this guide you linked me to doens't even say S for guide, it says M [04:02] CRAP [04:02] just wrecked my frontend lircrc :( [04:02] yes. it has those definitions. you want it? [04:02] that will bring up the menu for the guide. [04:02] S brings it up sirectly [04:02] directly [04:03] yes please [04:05] don't think thats going to work through school firewall [04:05] can you email it [04:05] yes [04:05] ? === EnderTheThird [n=phil@67-38-131-50.ded.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:07] got it thanks [04:07] yw [04:09] this one looks identical to the one i downloaded [04:09] volume is f-keys [04:09] i might not configured those yet. still setting those up [04:09] vol up [ [04:10] vol dn ] [04:10] Would anyone here be able to help me with Zap2it and Updating my channels in MythTV? I finally got Ubuntu recognizing my HD-5500's, now I just need to use them [04:10] Ender: you have a zap2it acct set up with channels? [04:10] odd [04:10] formatting comes un done when i paste it [04:10] (reversed the volup and down) [04:11] how come when i paste it i lose all the returns [04:12] major: yes [04:13] ender: you need to delete the current channel profile in mythtv-setup (5. channel editor)... [04:13] then... [04:13] add the new source (3.) [04:13] and bind it to all your tuners in (4.) [04:14] in (3.) "retrieve the channels from the listing service" will grab your channels you have set up at zap2it [04:16] workin on that now [04:16] k [04:16] hehe now it doesnt' work at all [04:17] ill just use the one i was using before and customize it === majoridiot is trying to fix the one he just borked === EnderTheThird [n=phil@67-38-131-50.ded.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] [04:21] hehe [04:21] it just might have not been compatable with my lirc.conf [04:22] channel up and down are bound to the ringt things but don't seem to be working [04:23] nothing is working here. can't locate the backup lircrc. [04:23] ah button n ames don't match :) [04:24] hm. [04:24] oh.. that was someone else i told that. LOL [04:24] case-sensitive [04:34] pretty much workin how i want [04:37] :) [04:38] it's just matching the name in lircd to the buttons in lircrc to the keypress [04:38] tedious, but that's all. [04:53] yea [04:53] i just wish i could instantly change channels [04:53] patience win out? [04:53] with theh channel up and down buttons [04:53] instead of doing that then ok [04:53] you CAN [04:53] .... [04:53] i didnt' see it in the wiki key thingy [04:54] it's called "browse mode" [04:54] you want it off. [04:54] hm [04:54] no [04:54] but i want to be able to do BOTH [04:54] LMMFAO [04:54] the browse mode with the up and down arrows [04:54] and channel up and down with the ch annel key [04:54] i know i could do that [04:54] can you config the keyboard to do it? [04:55] not that i saw === majoridiot isn't aware of a way around browse or no browse [04:55] yea [04:55] ill keep looking but i don't haeve my hopes up [04:55] one or the other. you are just being difficult. :P [04:55] my next goal is to setup the mythvideo to look up images and stuff [04:55] its not automatically grabbing stuff from idbm [04:55] imdb [04:55] i just have to play with the seutp [04:56] yup [04:56] LOTS to configure. [04:56] yea [04:56] and not enough time [04:56] TELL ME about it [04:56] hehe [04:56] atleast the damn semester is wrapping up [04:56] little over a month left === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === spiderworm [n=spiderwo@c-67-160-18-59.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === EnderTheThird [n=phil@67-38-131-50.ded.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:50] Don't suppose anyone in here has had some luck with the pcHDTV HD-5500? === EnderTheThird [n=phil@67-38-131-50.ded.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5e168.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Xenocide [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === spiderworm [n=spiderwo@c-67-160-18-59.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:25] ping: Xenocide [10:26] hey majoridiot [10:27] 'lo superm1 [10:27] how goes your april fools? [10:27] fall for google TiSP? [10:27] :) [10:27] hm. never realized it was april fool's. [10:27] lol... no just pulling it up now. [10:28] LOL @ "want wifi around? just flush it down" [10:28] i put it in my away message on aim/gtalk. my mom signed online earlier and clicked the link. she calls me, and is like mario how do they do that???? [10:28] hehe [10:28] too funny [10:29] finally an explanation for all that dark fiber they're running... [10:29] that and gmail paper today was announced [10:29] dark fiber indeed. [10:29] lol @ gmail paaper [10:29] i love google's acceptance of april fools. i look forward every year to hearing their crazy antics [10:30] agreed. === majoridiot apparently lost track of time [10:30] again. [10:30] oh, have important stuff to do today? [10:31] just some guide work. [10:32] meant lost track of time in reference to actual month. LOL [10:32] ah. i've been trolling the forums a bit today and trying to do homework throughout the day [10:32] haha [10:34] procrastinate now! === majoridiot puts off his procrastinating until later [10:35] gardengnome, well i should emphasize the *trying to do homework*. i've been up since 9am. all i really accomplished was a short two sentance answer to a 5 problem assignment. oh and i watched LOST. [10:35] so its been a lot more of forum trolling [10:36] our EE servers were down all day too, so i couldnt get any of the lab or senior design stuff done that i needed [10:36] so its not all my fault.... [10:37] i'm supposed to be studying for my finals. guess i'll start tomorrow. ;=) [10:38] ... knock on wood. servers just came back. okay off to campus for me :) === Xenocide^ [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Xenocide^ is now known as Xenocide [10:53] ping Xenocide: incoming email [10:54] god i love this MOTO Q [10:54] i was in the other room watching tv and it popped up on my phone [10:55] sorta what i wanted, but i wanted to not have to toggle [10:55] close enough, i might do it though, thanks! [10:55] the only way i can see to do it. [11:01] im still pondering feisty on the laptop [11:01] have you tried the live disk? [11:02] i had it on the laptpo before [11:02] as long as it detects and sets up all of the hardware correctly. [11:02] just printer support was poor with my HP all in one and office was holdin me back [11:02] but i guess i can use crossover [11:02] i still haven't tried beryl 2.0 [11:03] are you running the hplip drivers for your all in one? [11:03] yea [11:03] printing stil seems to get cut off [11:03] and text is way too big [11:03] might just take some goofing around with [11:04] yeah. if it's on the list of supported printers, then it's likely a config problem. [11:04]