[01:15] <billboforealdoe> #ubuntu is down bugged?
[01:15] <billboforealdoe> is bugged*
[01:15] <ompaul> ?
[01:16] <ompaul> there are 1042 inthere
[01:16] <billboforealdoe> i went to channel #ubuntu and it said it had a bug
[01:16] <billboforealdoe> oh. then hold one
[01:16] <billboforealdoe> on*
[01:16] <PriceChild> billboforealdoe, _you_'re the one with the bug :)
[01:16] <billboforealdoe> i see that, how do i fix it
[01:16] <ompaul> ahh you in #ubuntu-read-topic?
[01:16] <billboforealdoe> yup
[01:16] <PriceChild> billboforealdoe, please follow the instructions to connect to freenode on port 8001
[01:17] <ompaul> then read the topic :) it tells you everything
[01:17] <PriceChild> (or update your router's firmware)
[01:17] <billboforealdoe> ok ill read up, be back
[01:17] <ompaul> the latter is not always successful but the former is always
[01:19] <PriceChild> eww gaim :)
[01:19] <billboforealdoe> am i allowed in here?
[01:19] <PriceChild> ready for a test? :)
[01:20] <billboforealdoe> i changed it to 8001 didnt work
[01:20] <PriceChild> We have to confirm you've fixed it before we let you back in
[01:20] <billboforealdoe> oh ok
[01:20] <billboforealdoe> confirm away
[01:20] <PriceChild> If you are on port 8001 now then please type "/join #pricechild" for a test :)
[01:22] <PriceChild> LjL, you missed the initial ctcp channel incase you were wondering :)
[01:22] <LjL> PriceChild: no matter, i sent a private ctcp anyway :P
[01:22] <PriceChild> haha :)
[01:23] <PriceChild> and beat me to the unban!
[01:23] <billboforealdoe> how come we had to do that
[01:23] <LjL> billboforealdoe: because your router has a bug, that causes it to crash when a certain string of text is sent to you over IRC
[01:23] <ompaul> billboforealdoe, cos your router is faulty and some people exploit that fault
[01:23] <LjL> and that's bad for both you (your router crashes) and for the channel (spam)
[01:23] <PriceChild> billboforealdoe, we don't want people attacking our users :)
[01:24] <billboforealdoe> oh i got a bug? how do i fix that
[01:24] <PriceChild> you just did ;)
[01:24] <LjL> err... you just did.
[01:24] <billboforealdoe> lol phew
[01:24] <billboforealdoe> what caused it?
[01:24] <ompaul> billboforealdoe, bad coding
[01:25] <LjL> ehm. bad software - that's usually what causes bugs.
[01:25] <billboforealdoe> is there a way to found out what bad software i got?
[01:25] <LjL> billboforealdoe, it is the firmware of your router that is bad.
[01:26] <ompaul> and you have now got a work around in place so it won't impact you
[01:26] <jrib> billboforealdoe: check for updates on the manufacturer's site
[01:26] <ompaul> billboforealdoe, ^^ that too
[01:26] <billboforealdoe> update of my router manufacturer?
[01:27] <ompaul> yes
[01:39] <apokryphos> unban feature, cool
[01:40] <apokryphos> he did write 'unban timer for ubugtu' though ;-)
[01:40] <PriceChild> I would say "I wonder who we could test it on"... but I'm not going to let myself in for that...
[01:40] <apokryphos> @unban 30s testing
[01:41] <apokryphos> @unban 30s testing
 Error: You don't have the #ubuntu-ops,op capability.
[01:41] <apokryphos> hm, guess not
[01:41] <billboforealdoe> on my router would it just be buggy with me cause im on linux or because the other 3 are on windows
[01:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's buggy by itself.
[01:42] <billboforealdoe> thats gay. did i buy it that way?
[01:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Probably.
[01:42] <billboforealdoe> just a normal linksys
[01:42] <ompaul> !gay
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <ompaul> hmm
[01:42] <ompaul> funny its not a technical term
[01:43] <LjL> just a normal buggy linksys, yeah. not really gay, though, routers tend to disregard human relationships
[01:43] <ompaul> LjL, that was what I thought
[01:43] <Seveas> apokryphos, @unban doesn't work yet :)
[01:43] <billboforealdoe> true
[01:44] <apokryphos> ah ok
[01:44] <billboforealdoe> can i ask a question about my sound in here
[01:44] <LjL> ask it in #ubuntu please
[01:44] <Seveas> LjL, ethernet is all about male and female plugs. I'd say they're not gay
[01:44] <apokryphos> Seveas: any other chanop things, or not yet?
[01:44] <Seveas> apokryphos, not yet
[01:45] <LjL> true that
[01:45] <billboforealdoe> can i just hang out in here?
[01:45] <Seveas> sure, not that it's of any use to hang out but you can :)
[01:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's what I do, here. o.o
[01:46] <billboforealdoe> says up top you guys are the operators, that mean you are workers for ubuntu or designers or what?
[01:46] <ompaul> none of the above
[01:47] <ompaul> or we get to be "or what" :)
[01:47] <ompaul> Seveas, what are you doing up at this hour?
[01:47] <billboforealdoe> lol are you guys just really kickass ubuntu'ers then?
[01:47] <Seveas> ompaul, watching poker
[01:47] <PriceChild> billboforealdoe, some of us are gods
[01:47] <ompaul> PriceChild, speak for others :)
[01:47] <Seveas> PriceChild, you're talking like arn****y
[01:47] <ompaul> Seveas, good games?
[01:47] <PriceChild> yeah... "us" wasn't the right term :P
[01:47] <Seveas> ompaul, WSOP 2006
[01:47] <Seveas> THE game
[01:48] <ompaul> Seveas, is this the end game?
[01:48] <ompaul> interesting last two players
[01:48] <PriceChild> uuu WSOP... its not on terrestrial here much :(
[01:48] <Seveas> ompaul, final table, 5 left
[01:48] <billboforealdoe> pricechild you have been helping with everything, id agree on your god status
[01:48] <Seveas> DO NOT SAY A WORD ABOUT IT
[01:48] <mc44> PriceChild: the internet has ways and means... :p
[01:48] <Seveas> seriously, I'll kill you at UDS if you do :)
[01:48] <ompaul> Seveas,  watch the whole thing and that is all I will say ---- every last card
[01:48] <mc44> Seveas: oh so you dont know who won?
[01:49] <PriceChild> haha
[01:49] <mc44> :p
[01:49] <ompaul> mc44, you will die
[01:49] <Seveas> I sent him to hell already :p
[01:49] <ompaul> ohhh I see that
[01:49] <Seveas> anyway, unban him in a sec, I'm back to poker
[01:49] <ompaul> I'll do that
[01:49] <ompaul> go
[01:50] <ompaul> mc44, I said you will die but you had gone already
[01:50] <billboforealdoe> ok well im off. im sure you guys will see me again
[01:50] <mc44> ompaul: ##windows is scary
[01:51] <ompaul> have fun bill
[01:51] <billboforealdoe> you 2
[01:51] <LjL> i three
[01:51] <ompaul> mc44, heh they think that things should be hidden from users
[01:51] <mc44> "it runs DOS 4.01 atm"
[01:51] <mc44> !!
[01:51] <ompaul> to protect the user from the machine - after all if you knew what was going on then where would you bt
[01:51] <LjL> well, things do hide from users. they're scared.
[01:52] <LjL> mc44: so what? i've got a machine with dos 3 that runs fine.
[01:52] <mc44> LjL: weirdo
[01:52] <LjL> i mean - as fine as a dos machine can run, i.e. not quite fine
[01:54] <Seveas> nalioth, jenda or SportChick: please cloak kingbahamut
[01:54] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[01:54] <ompaul> :)
[01:55] <Seveas> ompaul, heh
[01:55] <nalioth> Seveas: you are smoking narcotics?
[01:55] <nalioth> Seveas: rotten narcotics?
[01:55] <Seveas> still have to get used to having irish people as staff
[01:55] <PriceChild> whoa Seveas kingbahamut cloaked....? :S
[01:55] <Seveas> nalioth, PriceChild ?
[01:56] <mc44> ompaul: ssshhhhh
[01:56] <nalioth> yes, quite.
[01:56] <ompaul> hehe
[01:56] <ompaul> hmmmmmmmmmm
[01:56] <LjL> i didn't get the joke
[01:56] <mc44> ompaul: way to give the game away :p
[01:56] <ompaul> april fools day
[01:56] <ompaul> Seveas, you need to be careful I am likely to carry that out :)
[01:56] <nalioth> Seveas: is this some kind of cocaine-cut-with-drain-cleaner April Fools gag?
[01:57] <ompaul> nalioth, that ain't no drain cleaner it is pure crack
[01:57] <nalioth> i wish you were joking, Seveas
[01:57] <Seveas> why?
[01:58] <nalioth> heh, i think you've been under a rock, seveas.
[01:58] <nalioth> i'm amazed the CC approved him
[01:58] <nalioth> what with this history
[01:58] <nalioth> with his history
[01:59] <LjL> who is he, for starters
[01:59] <ompaul> get him to do an alt nick and stick his email in there
[01:59] <PriceChild> LjL, forums mod.
[01:59] <nalioth> he's the one who led a crusade to split the wiki (because it wasn't good enough)
[02:00] <Seveas> ok, for now scratch the cloak request
[02:00] <Seveas> for a different reason though :)
[02:00] <ompaul> alt nick and stick his email in there ?
[02:00] <nalioth> he made "docs.gwos.org" or something like that for the forums folks to use 'instead of the official wiki'
[02:01] <Seveas> nalioth, that story has 2 sides
[02:01] <nalioth> not very Ubuntu minded, if you ask me
[02:01] <LjL> nalioth: which succeded, didn't it? we've got like two different wikis and one not-really-official-but-still one :P
[02:02] <PriceChild> At the end of the day there are lots of different guides all over the net... best we move on :)
[02:02] <LjL> though gwos.org was in friendly terms with the official wiki, just like a working ground for "work in progress" pages that used info from the forum.
[02:02] <LjL> s/though/thought/
[02:04] <Burgwork> gwos is very much nonofficial and doesn't cooperate with the official documetantion team
[02:04] <PriceChild> Burgwork, depends who's side you're on as to who co-operates....
[02:05] <PriceChild> but anyway :)
[02:05] <Burgwork> several attempts have been made to merge teh efforts, as they are massively duplicative
[02:05] <Burgwork> basically, gwos people rebuffed us
[02:05] <Burgwork> claimed "they were not producing documentation"
[02:06] <ubotu> In #kubuntu-offtopic, Admiral_Chicago said: ubotu k9copy is A good alternative to running DVDShrink with wine is k9copy; for Dapper and Edgy it's available in Universe, and for Breezy it's available at this repository: deb http://repos.knio.it/ breezy main contrib non-free
[02:07] <ompaul> breezy is not supported so does not get that last part iirc
[02:07] <LjL> !k9copy
[02:07] <ubotu> A good alternative to running DVDShrink with wine is k9copy; for Dapper it's available in Universe, and for Breezy it's available at this repository: deb http://repos.knio.it/ breezy main contrib non-free
[02:08] <ompaul> yer call but I would not be putting out info about unsupported versions :)
[02:08] <Seveas> Why not !forget k9copy?
[02:08] <Fujitsu> ompaul: Breezy is supported for another 12 days :P
[02:08] <Seveas> it hs no more info than !info k9copy :)
[02:08] <LjL> !no k9copy is <reply> A good alternative to running DVDShrink with !WINE is k9copy, available in the !Universe component of Dapper and Edgy
[02:08] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[02:08] <LjL> why not
[02:08] <LjL> !info k9copy
[02:08] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0~beta1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 630 kB, installed size 1708 kB
[02:09] <Seveas> !k9copy =~ s/ of D.*//
[02:09] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[02:09] <LjL> !info dvdshrink
[02:09] <ubotu> Package dvdshrink does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:09] <ompaul> Fujitsu, those few days mean that in 13 days the trolls will be out :)
[02:09] <LjL> ah right, it's a windows app :P
[02:09] <Seveas> !info xdvdshrink
[02:09] <ubotu> Package xdvdshrink does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:09] <LjL> bah, i concur, just !forget it
[02:10] <ompaul> forget italy, who could forget italy?
[02:10] <LjL> !no dvd is <reply> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:10] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[02:11] <LjL> !k9copy is <alias> dvd
[02:11] <ompaul> Fujitsu, see how good that was
[02:11] <LjL> ompaul: Fitaly is a nice virtual keyboard for PDAs
[02:12] <ompaul> ahh
[02:12] <ompaul> that is interesting
[02:12] <ompaul> if only I could work out how to get more out of my rockbox :)
[02:12] <LjL> the volume slider?
[02:13] <ompaul> LjL, no, you should have said, More what?
[02:13] <ompaul> and the answer is, wait for it, taaa daaa
[02:13] <ompaul> fun
[02:13] <ompaul> okay now I need to do some magic brb
[02:13] <LjL> well indeed, it needs a parameter, more [-dflpcsu]  [+linenum | +/pattern]  name1 name2 ...
[02:14] <LjL> though that looks slightly wrong since you can just pipe to it
[02:50] <Seveas> elkbuntu, ARRRRRGGHHHHHH the JbJ bug struck again...
[02:56] <Amaranth> Seveas: as soon as you get a spec written up let me know so i can mark myself as an essential participant
[02:56] <Amaranth> for the council
[03:13] <poningru> jbj bug?
[03:13] <poningru> Seveas: ping
[03:13] <poningru> #ubuntu+1 doesnt have enough traffic to have the helpers be there all the time
[03:13] <poningru> so people get missed all the time
[03:13] <poningru> can we add something to the topic
[03:14] <poningru> that essentially says something like : type help! to grab our attention
[03:14] <poningru> and people can add help! to their highlight list
[04:34] <Amaranth> Seveas: I can't call @unban in #ubuntu+1
[04:34] <Amaranth> says i don't have op power
[04:39] <gnomefreak> has it been implemented yet?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> i just read the email :(
[04:39] <Amaranth> apparently
[04:39] <gnomefreak> like 20 seconds ago
[04:39] <Amaranth> man, the trolls are out thick tonight
[04:40] <gnomefreak> i confirm Amaranth's issue
[04:41] <gnomefreak> and im assuming its name or hostmask
[04:41] <gnomefreak> like @unban @............ 3d
[04:42] <Amaranth> no
[04:42] <Amaranth> last ban you made
[04:42] <gnomefreak> i tried opped and unoped
[04:42] <gnomefreak> that was last i made
[04:43] <Amaranth> and you need capabilities in the bot,
[04:43] <gnomefreak> the one i tried in +1
[04:43] <Amaranth> like being in the editors group
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:43] <gnomefreak> %whoami
[04:43] <ubotu> gnomefreak
[04:43] <Amaranth> you don't put in the hostmask or anything, it works on the last ban you made
[04:43] <gnomefreak> oh so just @unban 3d
[04:45] <Amaranth> well, you have to put in a message too
[04:45] <Amaranth> like @unban 3d was trolling
[04:46] <gnomefreak> well i will be back in morning. can someone send email to list once its good. I would kind of like to use hostmask just incase there are a bunch of bans at one time that way i ban the 3 trolls to get channel quite than go backa nd set them
[04:47] <gnomefreak> well i tried no luck
[04:47] <gnomefreak> maybe ping Seveas in morning if i get online. i ended up with carple tunnel and hard to type in splint/brace
[04:48] <gnomefreak> ok night all :)
[04:49] <Hobbsee> night gnomefreak
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, hi
[04:49] <Hobbsee> heya Kamping_Kaiser
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:50] <poningru> gnomefreak: nn
[06:20] <ubotu> posingaspopular called the ops in #ubuntu-chicago
[06:20] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth or jrib
[06:20] <Mez> that's annoying
[06:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> must suck to be on the !ops-* lists
[06:24] <poningru> Kamping_Kaiser: even more annoying is having !help to be in your highlight
[06:24] <poningru> Kamping_Kaiser: but thats how mofo handles support
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> poningru, yeh, i can imagine that one hurting too
[06:25] <poningru> Kamping_Kaiser: take a look at the suggestion I gave Seveas like couple of hours ago
[06:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> poningru, couple meaning 2-3 or 6-7?
[06:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah i see
[06:26] <poningru> yeah
[06:26] <poningru> 2113 EDT
[06:29] <ubotu> xtknight called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:29] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth or jrib
[06:49] <ubotu> Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:49] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth or jrib
[06:51] <Mez> Burgundavia, I'll leave it in your capable hands for now, i should sleep, or eat, or both
[06:51] <Burgundavia> what was the issue?
[06:52] <Mez> first time, someone was trolling, mute then kb for language (which i saw as an op)
[06:52] <Mez> and then
 Can gay people use ubuntu?
 wait, all of you do, nevermind.
 want to see my cock
 I am a woman
 with a huge penis
 kkk
[06:52] <Mez> * Tyla (n=tyla@c-71-59-133-98.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has left #ubuntu (requested by Mez)
[06:53] <Mez> /lastlog ftw
[06:53] <Burgundavia> right
[07:16] <nixternal> what is the ban forward channel?
[07:21] <nixternal> I do I make a comment to a ban?
[07:23] <Hobbsee> nixternal: the ban forward channel?
[07:23] <Hobbsee> what do you mean?
[07:23] <nixternal> I thought there was a channel specifically setup to ban forward people (i.e., /ban *!*@*#ban_forward
[07:45] <Hobbsee> like #ubuntu-read-topic ?
[07:49] <nixternal> sumpin' like that.
[07:49] <nixternal> no biggy now
[08:24] <jenda> Seveas: cloaked
[08:27] <ubotu> xtknight called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:27] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth or jrib
[08:28] <ubotu> Kotik called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:31] <Burgundavia> ugh, why are people constantly calling ops tonight?
[08:31] <Hobbsee> becaues it took me a while to respond
[08:31] <Hobbsee> and teh morons
[08:38] <jenda> oi, I'm an op in #ubuntu too, and I'm not on the list... freedom! :
[08:38] <jenda> :)
[10:14] <Martin_> hi, can somebody help? Seven11 is d-lined and he don't know why. Any chance to get him in again?
[10:37] <Hobbsee> Martin_: d-lined?  try #freenode-social for a staffer.  only staffers issue dlines
[10:41] <Martin_> hi, can somebody help? Seven11 is d-lined and he don't know why. Any chance to get him in again?
[10:42] <Myrtti> 11:37 <+Hobbsee> Martin_: d-lined?  try #freenode-social for a staffer.  only  staffers issue dlines
[10:42] <Martin_> thanks, Myrtti
[12:46] <poningru> sigh
[12:46] <poningru> atleast make the announcement match the !feisty
[12:46] <poningru> !feisty
[12:46] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) - Feisty will be released at 0:00 UTC on April, 1
[12:55] <jrib> poningru: it does
[12:55] <jrib> now it will be released 3 weeks after april 1 because of the bugs :)
[12:56] <poningru> ... I guess I see that
[01:03] <jrib> poningru: to be honest I thought the same as you, then came up with that so I didn't dwell on it
[01:49] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: krhm
[01:50] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: some error in this? -> 11:19  * ubotu thwacks firecrotch with a BIG POINTY HOBBS?? OF DOOM
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> o-o
[01:53] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:54] <Hobbsee> you dont have utf8 characters or something
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder why theres utf8 involved at all
[01:55] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: because i got sick of being pinged every.  single.  time.  someone used that damned lart.
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> Sooo, why did I apparently miss dozens of ops calls?
[01:56] <ompaul> @lart 28 Hobbsee
[01:56] <ompaul> that one?
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> LMAO
[01:57] <Hobbsee> awww, darn you.
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> perfect timing all around
[01:57] <ompaul> it is april fools day ....
[01:57] <ompaul> hmmmmmmm#
[01:58] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser, cos it has lots to do with the pointy stick of doom
[01:58] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: because i cant remove it
[01:59] <ompaul> ohhhh nooeessss Hobbsee can't remove it?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> no
[01:59] <Hobbsee> unfortunately
[01:59] <Hobbsee> @whoami
[01:59] <ubotu> Hobbsee
[01:59] <ompaul> ahh
[01:59] <Hobbsee> @lart search doom
[01:59] <Hobbsee> @lart search doom
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[01:59] <Hobbsee> @search lart doom
[01:59] <Hobbsee> @help lart
[01:59] <ubotu> (lart [<channel>]  [<id>]  <who|what> [for <reason>] ) -- Uses the Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool on <who|what> (for <reason>, if given). If <id> is given, uses that specific lart. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
[02:00] <Hobbsee> @delete lart
[02:00] <Hobbsee> @delete lart 28
[02:00] <Hobbsee> i probably need owner capabilities
[02:00] <poningru> no wai
[02:00] <poningru> stop her!!!!
[02:00] <poningru> STOP
[02:00] <Fujitsu> @lart 28 Hobbsee
[02:00] <poningru> she is trying to destroy something that is beautiful
[02:00] <Fujitsu> Phew.
[02:00] <poningru> oh man for a sec there...
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> :o
[02:01] <poningru> :O
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> shes on a rampage!
[02:01] <poningru> hear her roar
[02:01] <poningru> silly Kamping_Kaiser its a friendly woman, she wont bite
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> poningru, heh... dont you belive it
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> she attacked me!!!!
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> with an elkbuntu !!!
[02:02] <poningru> eek
[02:02] <poningru> woah
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[02:02] <poningru> IPV6
[02:02] <Fujitsu_> Yup.
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> commitment!
[02:02] <poningru> which of the freenode server is v6 capable?
[02:03] <Fujitsu_> poningru: ipv6.chat.freenode.net, strangely enough.
[02:03] <poningru> hmm /me tries
[02:04] <poningru> lol
[02:04] <poningru> you can ban with CIDR right?
[02:04] <Fujitsu_> I presume so.
[02:05] <Fujitsu_> As v6 isn't classful...
[02:08] <Seveas> /cs kb ::1
[02:08] <poningru> lol
[02:08] <poningru> uh...
[02:08] <Fujitsu_> Seveas: ...
[02:08] <poningru> someone just ctcp versioned me
[02:08] <poningru> ...
[02:09] <Seveas> :)
[02:09] <poningru> @lart 28 Seveas
[02:09] <poningru> bwhahahahahahha
[02:09] <Seveas> @pity poningru
[02:09] <poningru> XD
[02:10] <poningru> btw Seveas did you get a chance to read through my proposal for #ubuntu+1?
[02:10] <Seveas> nno
[02:10] <poningru> 2113 EDT
[02:10] <Seveas> -ECARE
[02:10] <ompaul> ESCARE
[02:10] <ompaul> :)
[02:11] <Seveas> ompaul, you are scary :p
[02:11] <poningru> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5535
[02:11] <poningru> :p
[02:11] <Seveas> -EBADIDEA
[02:11] <ompaul> hehe
[02:11] <Seveas> -EOMPAUL
[02:12] <Seveas> errno 666, ompaul in sight
[02:12] <ompaul> Seveas, I think I need that tshirt
[02:12] <Seveas> errno 42, you forgot your towel
[02:12] <ompaul> hmm that would be better than lart
[02:12] <poningru> -EMOPAUL
[02:12] <poningru> Seveas: :(
[02:12] <ompaul>  @    errno   42 $nick you forgot your towel
[02:13] <Seveas> ompaul, http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=882
[02:13] <poningru> lol
[02:13] <Fujitsu_> Hahah.
[02:13] <poningru> -EMOELDO
[02:13] <poningru> :(
[02:14] <mc44> poningru: yeah dont mess with ompaul, you know how these emos get
[02:14] <Seveas> http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=830
[02:14] <Seveas> W!!
[02:15] <ompaul> Seveas, I'm looking at mc44 but I can't think of a suitable punishment - like ##windows would be too good for him
[02:16] <Seveas> ompaul, #opensuse?
[02:16] <Seveas> ompaul, or #automatix
[02:16] <ompaul> getting there
[02:16] <ompaul> now your talking
[02:16] <ompaul> :)
[02:16] <Fujitsu_> #automatix sounds good.
[02:16] <Fujitsu_> Ultimate punishment.
[02:16] <Fujitsu_> Or perhaps #ubuntuforums.
[02:16] <mc44> yeah, I can converse with fellow deities then
[02:16] <ompaul> mc44, hehe
[02:17] <poningru> rofl
[02:17] <ompaul> mc44, personally its faithless :)
[02:18] <poningru> bwhahah awesome shirt Seveas
[02:18] <Seveas> poningru, tshirt hell has great shirts :)
[02:19] <Seveas> this one is excellent: http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=668
[02:20] <Seveas> http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=325
[02:20] <Seveas> for the ladies: http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=433
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> speaking of which
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> *puts on some Rammstein*
[02:31] <poningru> ...
[02:31] <poningru> pi-mp
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> aaohh. now i get it :S how odd
[02:41] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser, just proving anything is possible with maths :)
[02:41] <poningru> Seveas: bug in ubotu
[02:41] <Seveas> where?
[02:41] <poningru> doesnt have EDT
[02:41] <Seveas> so?
[02:41] <poningru> @schedule EST
[02:41] <ubotu> Schedule for EST: 01 Apr 15:00: Marketing Team | 02 Apr 10:00: Community Question Time | 03 Apr 06:00: Community Council | 03 Apr 10:00: Kernel Team | 03 Apr 13:00: Mozilla Team | 04 Apr 07:00: Edubuntu
[02:42] <Seveas> EDT isn't important apparently :p
[02:42] <poningru> ...
[02:42] <Seveas> just use a cit-based timezone
[02:42] <Seveas> city*
[02:42] <poningru> but thats just it there is like one city on EDT that it knows
[02:42] <Seveas> like @schedule new york or @schedule los angeles
[02:42] <poningru> @schedule atlanta
[02:42] <Seveas> that's the whole friggen point about that...
[02:43] <poningru> @schedule New York
[02:43] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 01 Apr 16:00: Marketing Team | 02 Apr 11:00: Community Question Time | 03 Apr 07:00: Community Council | 03 Apr 11:00: Kernel Team | 03 Apr 14:00: Mozilla Team | 04 Apr 08:00: Edubuntu
[02:46] <ompaul> Fujitsu_, you need to talk with hobbsee about that
[02:46] <ompaul> so I guess that is going to be one serious "sorry"
[02:46] <ompaul> :)
[02:47] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Firefoxman said: !aprilfool is somthing that will never happen.
[02:48] <mc44> .!aprilfool is Firefoxman
[02:48] <LjL> !april is <alias> feisty
[02:48] <Hobbsee> what's this now?
[02:48] <LjL> !aprilfool is <alias> feisty
[02:48] <LjL> waitwait, what's with the bot
[02:49] <LjL> %whoami
[02:49] <ubotu> LjL
[02:49] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, poningru said: !ps3 is To install ubuntu on PS3 please follow http://psubuntu.com/2007/04/01/installing-feisty-beta/
[02:49] <poningru> doesnt <reply> work anymore?
[02:50] <LjL> poningru: what about <reply>? i think there's some problem with <alias>
[02:51] <PriceChild> Where's Hobbsee?
[02:51] <Hobbsee> poningru: eek, no way.
[02:51] <poningru> oh hmm
[02:51] <PriceChild> ah opped...
[02:51] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: hiding
[02:52] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:52] <poningru> LjL: I tried !ps3 is <reply> To install ubuntu on PS3 please follow http://psubuntu.com/2007/04/01/installing-feisty-beta/
[02:52] <poningru> didnt work
[02:55] <mc44> poningru: you dont have permission to add to the bot
[02:55] <Hobbsee> wb Fujitsu :P
[03:00] <LjL> poningru: probably the same bug as the <alias>, i suppose
[03:00] <LjL> !testljl is <reply> mc44
[03:00] <LjL> yeah
[03:02] <poningru> uhoh
[03:02] <mc44> LjL passes!
[03:03] <LjL> that would be the first passed test on an #ubuntu channel, ever
[03:04] <mc44> Yeah you failed really, I was just ebing nice
[03:09] <Fujitsu> Night everyone.
[03:10] <poningru> nn
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> night mate
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont stomp on Hobbsee :(
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> *giggle*
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> one of these days someones going to notice me always being on the edge stirring
[03:39] <elkbuntu> lol
[03:39] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:39] <Hobbsee> he still hasnt noticed...
[03:46] <elkbuntu> he might have toodled off to bed too
[03:47] <Hobbsee> he hasnt
[04:00] <effie_jayx> hey there :D
[04:01] <Hobbsee> heya effie_jayx
[04:01] <elkbuntu> hola effie_jayx
[04:01] <effie_jayx> como estan? (how are ya?)
[04:02] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  go easy on me ... no doom this time for me ... I pass ;)
[04:02] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, estoy bien, tu?
[04:02] <effie_jayx> :O
[04:03] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: heh
[04:03] <effie_jayx> I'm fine elkbuntu  :D
[04:03] <dabaR> come help in #ubuntu, please.
[04:04] <baktaah> So, what line should I stay in for getting unbanned?
[04:04] <baktaah> LjL banned me (without a good reason)
[04:04] <baktaah> "don't sodomize men"
[04:04] <nalioth> baktaah: he did?
[04:04] <LjL> from #ubuntu-effects, that is
[04:05] <baktaah> Yeah nalioth
[04:05] <baktaah> And I used to help people there.
[04:06] <baktaah> Given the circumstance that ubotu is a bot, I don't know who to speak to?
[04:06] <nalioth> baktaah: you can speak to any of us with + in front of our nicks
[04:07] <nalioth> or a yellow ball or whatever your client shows
[04:07] <LjL> baktaah, depends what you want to say. if your conversation topics involve sodomy and ad-hominems, perhaps better not speak at all
[04:07] <nalioth> right, no sodomy here
[04:07] <baktaah> LjL as I said before, i don't know when you joined
[04:07] <baktaah> But as far as I am concerned we were discussing video players/codec/encryption regarding .asx files and mms:// protocolc
[04:07] <baktaah> Protocols*
[04:07] <LjL> i just got highlighted. what i saw was enough for a kick. i think the ad-hominems were enough for a ban.
[04:08] <baktaah> Sorry then
[04:08] <PriceChild> baktaah, LjL was there before you joined.
[04:08] <baktaah> Then I guess he shoould have noticed that both me and  Lupine where just making smalltalks while figuring out how to fix my issue
[04:08] <LjL> ok sorry for spamming the channel now, but
[04:09] <nalioth> smalltalk does not have to go astray of morality
[04:09] <baktaah> nalioth morality depends on what kind of people, are you of course in a anti-gay movement then I guess IMOrtality would be to be gay or talk about gay-relations,
[04:09] <LjL> [15:55:47]  <lupine_85> eh, not a codec problem then  [15:55:57]  <lupine_85> just find a better (i.e. non-streaming) pr0n provider  [15:56:37]  --> j_ack has joined this channel (n=rudi@p508DA497.dip0.t-ipconnect.de).  [15:58:22]  <baktaah> lupine_85 this is the SHIT lupine_85  [15:58:30]  <baktaah> 30 minutes (everytime I want)  [15:58:38]  <baktaah> of like ... 2 000 different movies  [15:58:48]  <baktaah> and if ure into sodomizing men, 2000 gay porn too
[04:09] <LjL> [15:59:06]  <-> ChanServ> OP #ubuntu-effects  [15:59:06]  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LjL  [15:59:09]  <-> ubotu> tell baktaah about guidelines  [15:59:09]  <-- baktaah has left this channel (requested by LjL: "Please don't").  [15:59:10]  *** LjL sets mode: -o LjL  [16:00:00]  --> baktaah has joined this channel (n=baktaah@c-7b4171d5.1510-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se).
[04:09] <LjL> [16:00:02]  <baktaah> wth :)  [16:00:08]  <lupine_85> "please don't sodomise men" ?  [16:00:14]  <lupine_85> or "please don't discuss pr0n"?  [16:00:17]  <baktaah> We got a homofob here.  [16:00:24]  <baktaah> Probarly in his mid 40's, republican  [16:00:31]  <baktaah> Goes to church every Sunday  [16:02:41]  <-> ChanServ> OP #ubuntu-effects  [16:02:42]  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LjL  [16:02:44]  *** LjL sets mode: +b
[04:09] <LjL> *!*@c-7b4171d5.1510-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
[04:09] <LjL> [16:02:44]  <-- baktaah has left this channel (requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye").
[04:10] <LjL> yikes, didn't realize it was *that* long. anyway.
[04:10] <nalioth> baktaah: my orientation isn't in question here, your usage of an #ubuntu-* channel is.
[04:10] <baktaah> As far as I am concorned I didn't disturb anyone or interupting someone who was waiting for guide-lines or help, we were as I said earlier, just making smaltalks and we weren't offending anyone
[04:10] <baktaah> lol
[04:10] <baktaah> Im not gay
[04:11] <nalioth> baktaah: we have !guidelines to help folks find their way in #ubuntu-* channels
[04:11] <baktaah> You brought up morality
[04:11] <baktaah> and I said
[04:11] <baktaah> Morality depends on the people
[04:11] <LjL> please do note that my kick included a !guidelines PM
[04:11] <baktaah> no?
[04:11] <baktaah> * ChanServ gives channel operator status to LjL
[04:11] <baktaah> * You have left channel #ubuntu-effects (requested by LjL: "Please don't")
[04:11] <elkbuntu> it doesnt matter squat what orientation the discussion was about. it's completely not family-friendly the things you were saying, or the accusations you were making
[04:12] <LjL> baktaah: what about the   <-> ubotu> tell baktaah about guidelines   part?
[04:12] <baktaah> I can agree that the part about sodomi*ing men wasn't exactly family friendly.
[04:12] <LjL> ah, so you agree?
[04:12] <baktaah> Yes for the KICK
[04:12] <baktaah> but not the ban
[04:12] <baktaah> i didnt say anything offensive.
[04:12] <LjL> cool, then you'll also agree that the ad-hominems to me were not, either
[04:12] <baktaah> LjL no that was not to offend u
[04:12] <baktaah> but to joke a bit
 We got a homofob here.  [16:00:24]  <baktaah> Probarly in his mid 40's, republican  [16:00:31]  <baktaah> Goes to church every Sunday
[04:12] <LjL> didn't sound like that
[04:12] <poningru> baktaah: that entire discussion you quoted was not at all family friendly
[04:12] <poningru> I see couple of curse words
[04:13] <baktaah> do you get offended for that ljl?
[04:13] <LjL> yes i do
[04:13] <baktaah> then i apoligize
[04:13] <LjL> anyway, the problem is not whether i get offended
[04:13] <baktaah> wasn't in my itention to hurt or offend yhou?
[04:13] <baktaah> intention*
[04:13] <LjL> the problem is that ad-hominems are simply not very CoC-like. and you had your chance you read the guidelines before using them.
[04:13] <elkbuntu> i am *not* convinced
[04:13] <baktaah> poningru  i got kicked for that, I got banned for something that I didn't intend to
[04:13] <LjL> neither am i, so i suggest you simply wait until your ban is lifted and end this discussion for the time being
[04:14] <baktaah> CoC like
[04:14] <baktaah> ?
[04:14] <LjL> !coc
[04:14] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:14] <baktaah> I did NOT offend you?
[04:14] <baktaah> How can I get banned for that?
[04:14] <baktaah> I didn't write "you ***hole" even though I feel like doing it now.
[04:15] <LjL> as i said, you did offend me, and i agree with hobbsee, and i already asked to end this discussion
[04:15] <Hobbsee> hence, it's a bannable offense, if it continues.  And that's before any bad language comes in.
[04:15] <baktaah> The only reason you want to end is because you know Im right, i did not offend you, you just wanted an excuse to kick me.
[04:15] <nalioth> baktaah: #ubuntu-* are family friendly, if you want to discuss republicans, join ##politics, if you want to discuss gay/lesbian issues, there are channels for that, too
[04:16] <nalioth> dammit
[04:16] <elkbuntu> #we-hate-ljl coming right up?
[04:16] <poningru> lol
[04:16] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:16] <mc44> elkbuntu: im there :)
[04:16] <effie_jayx> that many?
[04:16] <LjL> what is funny is that he couldn't be more wrong. anyway.
[04:16] <elkbuntu> LjL, that's what makes him a troll, dear
[04:16] <effie_jayx> that's quite a caharacter heh...
[04:16] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, one of many
[04:17] <poningru> #adult
[04:42] <dabaR> !feisty
[04:42] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) - Feisty will be released after 0:00 UTC on April, 1
[04:42] <dabaR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[04:42] <dabaR> Please update, if you will.
[04:44] <elkbuntu> it is technically true too, nice one
[04:49] <LjL> !flavors
[04:49] <ubotu> !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu
[04:49] <LjL> new factoid. verbose, and duplicates some of the information available in !gui. comments to improve it welcome.
[04:50] <LjL> i have also this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KnowThyUbuntu that tries to give some high-level architectural information about ubuntu (though it makes no mention of the different CD release flavors), maybe it could be of some use in some factoid
[04:50] <LjL> work on that page is welcome as well
[04:53] <LjL> elkbuntu: yesterday it was "at" not "after", but when i updated it i thought making it technically true would be for the best ;P
[04:53] <elkbuntu> hehe
[04:57] <effie_jayx> !automatix
[04:57] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:58] <LjL> i've often wondered whether we could make it more concise and just say "is a script that fails to install some software"
[04:59] <PriceChild> We're debating a set response to automatix on the forums atm
[04:59] <nalioth> automatix flat out sucks
[04:59] <nalioth> i'm so pleased that the functionality will be available in feisty by design
[04:59] <LjL> well we can't put that in the factoid
[04:59] <PriceChild> nalioth, is that a suggestion?
[05:00] <PriceChild> haha
[05:00] <nalioth> sure we can, "experience has shown that usin automatix may cause your system to fail."
[05:00] <LjL> yeah well, put that way it's not unlike the current factoid :) i suppose on the forums you could be more verbose than on the bot
[05:02] <PriceChild> Hehe yeah ours is going to be quite long with "proof".
[05:02] <LjL> PriceChild: perhaps you could mention a few facts (that need checking), like 1) only byte-compiled Python code is available for the current version of Automatix, no source  2) their site plainly states that anyone should disregard anything that'd said in the official Ubuntu support channels
[05:02] <PriceChild> Already got both of those ;)
[05:03] <LjL> i'm still wondering whether they're in a GPL violation by not giving any source, since afaik the original source was GPLd.
[05:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> They can relicense their own works if they want, if they hold the copyright to the entire work.
[05:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (And it doesn't link against anything GPLed.)
[05:04] <LjL> which i'm not sure they do. anyway, it doesn't really concern me
[05:04] <LjL> if the actual copyright holders have issue, it's their take to bring them up
[05:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Copyright holders, or users - both would have a claim.
[05:05] <LjL> well, i'm neither thing :P
[05:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> props :)
[05:06] <effie_jayx> Automatix is now available on debian
[05:06] <LjL> you ruined my day.
[05:06] <LjL> wait, it's an april's fool right
[05:06] <ikonia> how much would it cost to have the automatrix team executed  ?
[05:06] <effie_jayx> and my lug new debianitas  buddies were all going YAY!
[05:07] <effie_jayx> LjL,  unfortnatelly no...
[05:07] <elkbuntu> !coc | ikonia
[05:07] <ubotu> ikonia: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:07] <ikonia> pardon ?
[05:07] <elkbuntu> it'd be nice, but it's naughty to say so ;)
[05:07] <ikonia> I'm not breaking the coc
[05:07] <ikonia> ooh I only meant in jest
[05:07] <ikonia> eg: I believe automatrix is a poor tool
[05:08] <elkbuntu> and i was only coc'ing in jest ;)
[05:08] <ikonia> ahh
[05:08] <ikonia> good
[05:08] <LjL> perhaps we could just mildly torture them
[05:08] <ikonia> missed the sarcasm
[05:08] <elkbuntu> we !coc each other in here all the time
[05:08] <ikonia> LjL: not enough
[05:08] <elkbuntu> !coc-jbj | LjL
[05:08] <ubotu> LjL: a/s/l?
[05:08] <effie_jayx> ikonia,  I was just discouraging it in my local lug
[05:09] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, ooh... dont... it'll break lazy debian users systems, and they'll come crying to us for feisty lovin'
[05:09] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  lol
[05:09] <LjL> besides, at least in Ubuntu Automatix can be useful. if you want to break your system.
[05:09] <LjL> on Debian Sid, it becomes totally redundant
[05:10] <effie_jayx> LjL,  hehe
[05:14] <poningru> Fujitsu: dude which isp do you have?
[05:14] <poningru> that they give you ipv6 capabilities
[05:37] <nalioth> !coc | Automatix_team
[05:37] <ubotu> Automatix_team: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:38] <LjL> holy split
[05:45] <ubotu> In #ubuntu+1, facugaich said: ubotu says feisty release date is 00:00 UTC April 1st, someone should change that.
[05:46] <LjL> they really don't get it...
[05:57] <effie_jayx> many netsplits today :S
[05:59] <nalioth> effie_jayx: leave the power plug alone, please
[05:59] <effie_jayx> hehe
[06:00] <effie_jayx> it was not me.. it was Seveas  alter ego... Seveaz
[06:00] <Seveas> @lart effie_jayx
[06:00] <Seveas> hmm
[06:00] <Seveas> bot lad
[06:00] <Seveas> lag
[06:00] <LjL> no wonder given the splits
[06:01] <Seveas> heh
[06:02] <Hobbsee> ~
[06:04] <Seveas> 
[06:15] <jenda> Seveas: wow, now that's a neat tilde :)
[06:17] <effie_jayx> I couldn't see it
[06:17] <effie_jayx> Seveas,  what charset is it available
[06:17] <effie_jayx> ??
[06:17] <jenda> effie_jayx: most prolly UTF-8 ;)
[06:18] <effie_jayx> that's what I use :S
[06:33] <ubotu> predaeus called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth or jrib
[06:35] <nalioth> Seveas: why is ubotu echoing in here?  most of us have our own nicks on highlight (or the word '!ops')
[06:37] <Seveas> not all of us are everywhere
[06:38] <Seveas> bug 87670
[06:38] <ubotu> Malone bug 87670 in ubuntu-bots "ubotu could ping -ops if !ops was called elsewhere" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87670
[06:39] <LjL> maybe it could just give the "x called the ops in #y" without the actual factoid, so if you want to "opt in" by setting a highlight on "called the ops in #y", you still can
[06:39] <nalioth> right
[06:44] <Seveas> ok
[06:44] <Seveas> @reload Encyclopedia
[06:44] <ubotu> OK
[06:45] <Seveas> !-op
[06:45] <ubotu> op is <alias> ops - added by Seveas on 2006-08-22 18:31:36
[06:45] <Amaranth> @lart Seveas
[06:45] <Seveas> hmmmmmm
[06:45] <Seveas> ah, more brainfarts in the bot
[06:48] <ardchoille> Suspicious mass joins in #ubuntu
[06:49] <ardchoille> Or were those just joins from the recent netsplit?
[06:50] <effie_jayx> ardchoille,  netsplit
[06:50] <ardchoille> Ah, ok.
[07:03] <CarlFK> can someone test me for the firewall venerability ?
[07:04] <nalioth> CarlFK: join #moderation please
[07:04] <CarlFK> nalioth: #ubuntu-read-topic says "...and then join #ubuntu-ops and ask to be tested"
[07:05] <CarlFK> should that be changed?
[07:05] <nalioth> CarlFK: right
[07:05] <nalioth> please join #moderation so i can test you
[07:05] <nalioth> if i do it here, "BAD THINGS" happen
[07:06] <nalioth> CarlFK: all done, thanks for your patience
[07:06] <CarlFK> no prob
[07:23] <LjL> wait a second, on GNOME the IRC client that's there by default is just Gaim, and it proposes AIM as the default protocol (not IRC), and even when you select IRC, it doesn't join #ubuntu by default?
[07:23] <LjL> nice.
[07:24] <mc44> LjL: got to reduce the number of people in #ubuntu somehow :p
[07:25] <LjL> i guess...
[07:33] <Myrtti> sucks
[07:34] <Tm_T> I don't
[07:43] <ubotu> vorian called the ops in #ubuntu-ohio
[07:44] <CarlFK> -ohio?
[07:45] <nalioth> CarlFK: there are many Ubuntu loco teams
[07:45] <CarlFK> wild
[07:45] <jenda> CarlFK: it's a small hole on the north american continent... ;)
[07:45] <vorian> when did we get ubotu?
[07:45] <vorian> or what happened to ubot3?
[07:45] <vorian> :)
[07:46] <vorian> jenda, that hurts my feelings :(
[07:46] <nalioth> vorian: seveas is determining if some of his python rewrites will make ubotu more stable serving thousands of users
[07:46] <jenda> vorian: I'm sorry, I ddin't mean it that way.
[07:46] <vorian> kewl nalioth :)
[07:46] <vorian> jenda, I know :P
[07:46] <Tm_T> or he end up destroying freenode as april fool
[07:47] <mc44> haha
[07:47] <jenda> Tm_T: he'll try that and I'll personally go destroy him.
[07:47] <jenda> :)
[07:47] <vorian> jenda, add any freenode staff to access?
[07:48] <mc44> ooh jenda is proper staff now?. oh dear. /me puts on camouflage
[07:48] <jenda> hehe
[07:48] <jenda> vorian: it's symbolic, but we don't touch channels that don't have it in there.
[07:48] <jenda> vorian: and if the channel has trouble while no ops are around, people will come to us...
[07:48] <vorian> ah, ok
[07:48] <jenda> ...and we'll just tell them that it's none of our business...
[07:48] <jenda> :)
[07:49] <Tm_T> Seveas: (:
[07:49] <mc44> jenda: not even vigilante justice? :)
[07:49] <jenda> nope
[07:49] <Tm_T> jenda: you mean officially it wasn't your fault if someones network card explodes
[07:49] <jenda> unless *@freenode/staff/* is in the access list.
[07:50] <vorian> jenda, can you change my access level on -ohio?
[07:50] <jenda> hehe, yep.
[07:50] <jenda> yours? no.
[07:50] <vorian> ah
[07:50] <jenda> well, not unless Seveas asks for it :)
[07:50] <mc44> well, he can change it to -1 for funsies :)
[07:50] <vorian> I didn't set the channel up.
[07:51] <vorian> 30 is required for adding people to the access list.
[07:51] <vorian> hmm
[07:51] <jenda> yup
[07:52] <jenda> so you'll have to ask that guy who set it up, or ask Seveas to set someone else as channel contact.
[07:52] <vorian> ok jenda :)
[07:53] <vorian>  /ms is awesome for such things :)
[07:53] <jenda> vorian: and since you're the LoCo contact, I believe Seveas won't have a problem with switching the channel over.
[07:54] <jenda> (while, of course, it would be best done by asking)
[07:55] <vorian> jenda, true true
[07:55] <vorian> I'll ask the fella who set it up first :)
[07:56] <nalioth> or ask seveas to have us put *!*@freenode/staff/* in all the #ubuntu-* access lists . . .
[07:57] <jenda> or that...
[07:58] <vorian> but its so easy grinding the work one channel at a time :)
[07:58] <jenda> actually, that would make it a lot simpler. Whenever a channel without that would be in trouble, we would have Seveas old order lying around to put it in that we could just do it ;)
[07:58] <jenda> vorian: actually, I kinda like the idea of bothering Seveas with every single channel separately.
[07:58] <vorian> lol
[07:59] <jenda> vorian: any idea where dan buch is? I'd like to see him at today's meeting :)
[07:59] <vorian> se veas still scares me a bit :S
[07:59] <vorian> what time?
[07:59] <jenda> 20 UTC
[07:59] <jenda> an hour from now.
[07:59] <vorian> I was chatting with him this morning
[07:59] <mc44> vorian: dont worry, he scare everyone
[07:59] <vorian> mc44, :)
[08:00] <vorian> I'll call if I have to
[08:01] <jenda> thx :)
[08:01] <jenda> vorian: mind calling a guy in Argentina, too?
[08:02] <vorian> lol
[08:03] <jenda> vorian: if he can't make it, it's ok. don't force him ;)
[08:03] <jenda> I need beuno more, because beuno is the one who hasn't been doing his homework :)
[08:03] <vorian> ah, I see
[08:04] <ubotu> In ubotu, jrib said: candidates is For information on how to request a new package for software that is not currently in Ubuntu's repositories, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[08:04] <LjL> !packaging | jrib
[08:04] <ubotu> jrib: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[08:05] <LjL> so, which one should we have
[08:05] <LjL> (which webpage, that is, which factoid is sort of irrelevant)
[08:05] <jrib> ok actually Packages/New lins to it so it's ok
[08:05] <LjL> !candidates is <alias> packaging
[08:05] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[08:06] <jrib> LjL: thanks
[08:14] <jenda> false alarm then, it's in an hour and 46 minutes.
[08:20] <ubotu> cables called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:23] <nalioth> mc44: no, but /ar NICK does fine
[09:52] <gouki> Hi everyone
[09:56] <jenda> aloha gouki!
[09:56] <ompaul> hi one
[09:56] <jenda> :)
[09:56] <ompaul> jenda, since when were you in hawaii :)
[09:57] <jenda> ompaul: it's the only state I have never been to, which makes it special ;)
[09:57] <jenda> but I like the greeting.
[09:57] <ompaul> so there ya go
[09:57] <jenda> (only US state, that is...)
[09:57] <atoponce> jenda: i thought you were in utah
[09:57] <mc44> jenda: youve been to all the other states? :p
[09:57] <jenda> yep :)
[09:58] <atoponce> oh... *never* been to
[09:58] <jenda> atoponce: I have visited utah... but never stayed there long ;)
[09:58] <jenda> hehe
[09:58] <jenda> nope
[09:58] <ompaul> mc44, a mime attachement type jenda?
[09:58] <jenda> hehe
[09:58] <mc44> ompaul: :D
[09:59] <jenda> O_O
[09:59] <jenda> don't start that game again :)
[09:59] <mc44> haha
[10:01] <jenga> it was free :)
[10:01] <jenga> and all the toys still work, too :)
[10:01] <vorian> I love that game
[10:02] <jenga> how do i add this nick to irssi's highlighting?
[10:02] <nalioth> !exploit | pcircle
[10:02] <ubotu> pcircle: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[10:03] <nalioth> jenga: it should highlight your current nick
[10:04] <jenga> nalioth: right...
[10:04] <jenga> works :)
[10:06] <pcircle> naloith, i can revieve files fine with irssi but chat2 crashes
[10:06] <pcircle> from the same source
[10:07] <nalioth> ahh, sounds like an #xchat issue to me
[10:08] <pcircle> ok thanks for your help though :)
[10:36] <iBite> LjL: If you hate me, help me with this: Totem could not play 'mms://a1527.l3072817295.c30728.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1527/30728/v0001/reflector:17295?auth=caEbXc_blbJbjcud3aIagdvaldDatbsbSbX-bgebC9-kJa-FpBDExs=0002=1'.
[10:36] <LjL> wha?!
[10:37] <LjL> ah, it's you
[10:37] <LjL> sorry but i just went back to my KDE after a brief voyage into GNOME... don't quite have Totem :)
[10:37] <iBite> :(
[10:38] <iBite> Can you please unban/unmute me from #ubuntu? How do you expect happy users if you don't leave people ways to get help?
[10:39] <LjL> how do you expect to get help when you attempt to flood people out of the network with insulting notices?
[10:39] <iBite> LjL: I didn't attempt to flood anyone out...I was just mad
[10:40] <ompaul> iBite, when things get to you - walk away
[10:40] <iBite> ompaul: It's a LITTLE late for that. >.>
[10:40] <ompaul> don't let things become an issue
[10:40] <iBite> ^
[10:40] <ompaul> iBite, I saw
[10:40] <LjL> iBite: well, coming here again and pretending you were someone else in order to get unbanned doesn't testify in your favor either
[10:40] <ompaul> I am passing comment on not going off your head
[10:40] <LjL> anyway for what it's worth, neither kaffeine nor VLC play that URL, so either you need win32 codecs, or the URL is broken
[10:41] <iBite> LjL: I am not pretending to be anyone else...
[10:41] <LjL> but this is not really a support channel
[10:41] <LjL> well you were when you came back here pretending it was your brother who did the floods and stuff
[10:41] <iBite> LjL: I gotta do the best I can while you have me banned...And besides, it all got started when I got muted for NO REASON
[10:41] <LjL> pff
[10:42] <iBite> pff? Is that another language
[10:42] <iBite> ?
[10:44] <LjL> listen iBite, i don't CARE why you got muted, all i know is you came here asking about it, we told you we were discussing it (which we were), then after convincing yourself that we just hated you, you started notice-flooding a couple of us.
[10:44] <LjL> i'm not precisely sure how you'd expect me to "understand" anything now
[10:45] <iBite> LjL: I got mad because I got muted because I JOKINGLY called something a virus because it was slowing my computer
[10:45] <iBite> So if you had just rightfully unmuted me, you wouldn't be worrying about this
[10:46] <nalioth> LjL: what was the nick?
[10:46] <iBite> Bright-Light/Jetfighter
[10:46] <LjL> nalioth: Bright-Light, previously Jetfighter (he was Jetfighter when he was first muted, then Bright-Light when he came here complaining)
[10:46] <LjL> and Bright-Light was also his brother's nickname ;)
[10:46] <nalioth> ah yes
[10:47] <nalioth> iBite: your ban will be removed in it's time.
[10:47] <iBite> nalioth: It's been over 2 weeks. It's become more than justified, it's gone all the way to abuse.
[10:48] <LjL> checking out if the Fedora people can help you with Ubuntu? :)
[10:49] <Bright-Light> No
[10:49] <Bright-Light> I wanted Fedora the whole time, but it took me forever
[10:55] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-us, Vorian said: !FunnyLookinHat is FunnyLookinHat is the LoCo Team Leader for the Colorado Team.
[11:41] <bziobnic> can I be tested?
[11:41] <nalioth> bziobnic: join me in #moderation, please
[11:42] <nalioth> bziobnic: you're fine, enjoy #ubuntu
[11:42] <nalioth> thanks for your patience
[11:46] <atoponce> PriceChild: heh. i didn't think about creating an account. i guess it *is* a wiki after all
[11:47] <atoponce> to be honest, i saw 'immutable', and figured it was edited only by the DC team
[11:47] <atoponce> at which i *assumed* that they put it there
[11:48] <atoponce> there are other pages that are problematic as well
[12:12] <cables> Does Ubotu have a function to send messages to a channel from pm? So I could say /msg ubotu wifi | somenick > #ubuntu?
[12:12] <LjL> cables: yeah, just the same as it works on channel
[12:13] <LjL> except you can do without the !
[12:13] <LjL> just type /query ubotu and then have fun
[12:13] <cables> LjL, I mean, can I /msg ubotu to send a message to a channel, so I don't clutter the channel as much?
[12:13] <cables> LjL, like I can /msg ubotu factoid > nick
[12:13] <LjL> cables, that's what i said. yes.
[12:13] <cables> LjL, but I want to be able to /msg ubotu factoid > #ubuntu
[12:14] <LjL> cables, /msg <nickname> <message> is totally equivalent to typing /query <nickname> and then typing a message
[12:14] <cables> LjL, I know
[12:15] <LjL> cables: but please do put the bot commands on the channels, if you're using the bot to help people
[12:15] <mc44> LjL: he wants it to appear as if he did !fact | nick in the channel
[12:15] <cables> LjL, mc44 has it right
[12:15] <LjL> oh, that. no
[12:15] <cables> I want to reduce clutter in the channel by sending my bot queries in pm
[12:15] <cables> okay
[12:16] <LjL> it's not such a bad idea though i suppose
[12:16] <mc44> until people start to abuse it
[12:16] <cables> yeah
[12:16] <cables> but it could say "cables wants nick to know:"
[12:16] <cables> just like when you !fact > nick someone
[12:16] <LjL> yeah, of course it should be implemented carefully, and the sender nickname should be shown
[12:16] <LjL> right
[12:16] <mc44> ah
[12:17] <LjL> !bugs
[12:17] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:17] <cables> less potential for abuse that way
[12:17] <cables> the only issue is that you can kick someone from a channel but you can't stop someone from pm-ing ubotu
[12:17] <cables> so someone would have to implement an ubotu blocklist
[12:18] <LjL> cables: well, try to tell ubotu to message someone who isn't in the channel - it won't do it
[12:18] <cables> LjL, really?
[12:18] <cables> LjL, can you try it on me?
[12:18] <cables> hold on
[12:18] <LjL> really. it's not the same thing (actually, it's the opposite thing), but it shows the logic is mostly in place
[12:18] <cables> yeah
[12:18] <cables> hmm
[12:18] <cables> i'm sometimes not on the channel though
[12:18] <LjL> you just need the bot to ignore anyone who isn't in the channel they're trying to message
[12:19] <cables> i've sent ubotu messages to people not on the channel
[12:19] <cables> maybe they were though....
[12:19] <cables> i was still in -offtopic and -ops, so i got the message
[12:19] <LjL> cables: right, you need to be in *some* ubuntu channel
[12:19] <LjL> cables: did you get the !bot now?
[12:20] <cables> yea
[12:20] <cables> hold on though :)
[12:20] <cables> try it in a sec
[12:20] <LjL> !tell cables about foo