[12:20] yes. any suggestions? --> gnome-settings-maNAGER? [12:21] trhat is what plagues me..seems associated with having an nic enabled.. [12:21] The desktop's unusable when I log in on the server. [12:21] enabled? [12:22] if i have dhcp set for hte nic and there is no dhcp server...i've never found any help for it [12:23] You don't need dhcp for the server. It should have a fixed address and provide dhcp to the clients. [12:24] i have to switch back and forth on the laptop.. [12:24] sometimes it is ltsp server sometimes not [12:26] You're running a laptop as an edubuntu server? [12:26] sure.. [12:26] i do my expting at home with it.. [12:27] both powerpc and i386 [12:27] i use single nic "system" [12:28] So you expect it to work properly with two nics? [12:28] Running a single nic Edubuntu Server here too. DHCP is being done by Endian firewall. [12:29] course ltsp works just fine..just gnome-settings things slows things down..sometimes [12:30] im feeding a hundred clients at school single nic [12:30] with dhcp on port 1001 [12:30] I can easily add a nic. I just don't understand why it's necessary. [12:30] it is not..all im saying is my prob seems associated with no addy on my eth0 [12:31] strange [12:31] Can't just static eth0? [12:32] i can..until i want to use the lappie normally..i service 12 different networks so i cant hard code it [12:32] Can't use just use different location profile? [12:33] err..probably could..but network-mangler has been so fluky lately i havnt tried [12:33] cliebow: your running 7.04? [12:33] yes..both ppc and i386 [12:34] my ibook has been Rocking since Sat update [12:34] OK... Thought so. Tried the 7.04 last night and this morning and was just running into too many problems to get it up before the wife got up and wanted to use a computer so I went back to 6.10 [12:35] i understand.ive borked mine over and over..but managed to recover..one day i had three of em borked [12:37] Oh yesterday wasn't good. Lost HDD in main server and thier edubuntu server had the next biggest hdd that I could grab.... LOL [12:37] cliebow: did I read right earlier that you are running at school? [12:37] yes sir [12:38] 12 actually [12:38] How are you doing the printers and who can print to which printer? [12:39] not very sophisticated..ltsp only prints to printers students can use [12:40] never tackled it' [12:40] Hmmm... Ok.. I need to figure something out so that it can be assigned so students aren't printing to the printer in the classroom next door. [12:41] hehe, they'd never do that ;-) [12:41] LMAO Yea and they would never steal the balls from the mouse and leave our mouses balless. [12:42] Or move the keys around on the keyboards. [12:42] heavens no [12:42] kids are just sweet little creatures :-) [12:42] one thing i do is use a nonexistent printer as default..called "pickanother" [12:42] But then again would I have done them things in school?????? You bet your @rse I would have. [12:43] and throw out print jobs once in a while [12:45] three school have their own server..with cups only offering printers oin that building..but otherwise connected to the entire system network.. [12:45] dhcp on port 1001 wont cross our maned switch..so they only get ips in their native environment [12:46] from ther ltdp server [12:47] and printers in that school === caravena [n=caravena@23-171-28.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [01:13] HMM Might have to look into lpadmin === cafuego__ [n=cafuego@caffeine.cc.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego__ is now known as cafuego_ === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === knix1 [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === knix_ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:09] sbalneav: pingy pingy, ringy ringy, dingy dingy === tovella [n=ktraglin@ool-4579ba05.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:36] i want to continue testing feisty, but pulseaudio has not been working on my thin clients. how can i switch back to whatever sound system was used with edgy? === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.219] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@218.18.190.88] has joined #edubuntu === Em`Zee [i=Em_Zee@tones-desktop.cif.rochester.edu] has left #edubuntu [] === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === caravena_ [n=caravena@82-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] LaserJock: hello [04:19] sbalneav: hi, did you write up some stuff on updating for the Handbook? [04:20] Working on some stuff now. [04:20] When's my deadline? [04:22] hi sbalneav [04:22] Hello ajmitch [04:39] sbalneav: now :-) [04:39] erk [04:39] sbalneav: I asked HedgeMage about some images we seem to be missing [04:39] she said she doesn't have them [04:39] they are update* [04:39] do you have them? [04:39] No, I don't. [04:40] LaserJock: The handbooks also on the web, yes? Generated from the XML regularly? [04:40] kinda [04:40] on doc.ubuntu.com [04:41] but I don't think it's being updated :( [04:42] doc should update daily [04:42] ping mdke if it isn't [04:43] LaserJock: I'm not going to get done what I wanted tonight, that's pretty clear to me. However, if I can update some more stuff by go-live, and it's on the web, that will help us. [04:46] Burgundavia: I think maybe website building broke, and since it's long after string freeze probably nobody bothered to fix it [04:46] in fact, now that I think of it, I might have broke it [04:47] sbalneav: you have the doc team repo though right? [04:47] Yeah, I update from there. [04:47] It's the one you gave me, right? [04:48] the feisty branch [04:48] give me one sec though, I need to commit some stuff [04:54] ok, commited === lotusleaf [n=ohzone@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #edubuntu === lotusleaf [n=ohzone@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #edubuntu ["trombone"] [05:00] oh doh [05:00] I figured it out [05:01] doc.ubuntu.com is built from trunk [05:01] I've been working in the feisty branch [05:13] sbalneav: ok, I've synced everything up, tomorrow the version on doc.ubuntu.com should be the latest [05:20] sbalneav: so you didn't do the "Keeping your Edubuntu server in shape" section of server.xml? === narutosan [n=pranav@mnit.ac.in] has joined #edubuntu [06:34] may I know how many proposals are rated for the gsoc, [06:34] it's still pretty early [06:35] LaserJock: Hello !! 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[10:08] ajmitch, fighting bugs [10:09] ah yes [10:09] i just found a stray sleep(5) in ldm :) [10:09] that'd be annoying [10:09] and i always wondered why it takes so long to start :P === ajmitch recalls daniels finding repeated sleep(1) calls in Z [10:10] s/Z/X/ [10:10] ogra: oooh do i not recall that being there? [10:10] hmm [10:10] mybe now [10:10] not [10:10] not in the greeter code [10:10] ahh [10:10] ok [10:10] my mistake [10:10] its hidden in the ldm code itself [10:11] i also statred hacking on a greeter in C/gtk ... [10:11] i thought you hated C [10:11] :p [10:14] i do [10:15] but the resulting binary is 19k big ... [10:15] thats quite tempting [10:15] heheh === jinty [n=jinty@247.Red-83-49-51.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.219] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.219] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.6.101] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/linuxpreview.org/x-c1f74d0b2f2d733b] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === johansalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-222.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-240-113-167.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=Julius@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57a975b7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === maccam94 [n=maccam94@70.90.107.65] has joined #edubuntu [02:01] anybody on? i have a question about large-scale maintenance === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [02:12] maccam ? fire away ... let me see if I can direct you [02:13] ok [02:14] i'm wondering how one would manage updates and changes to hundreds of computers on a network [02:15] oh that [02:15] maccam94: i'm open to correction, but from what I understand, you can set up the workstations to point to a single "update server" which would then be the only machine needing to connect to the net [02:16] you can also create a group of people who would be allowed (through their usuual login/pass to be allowed to accept updates from this central machine. [02:16] RichEd, so it would be possible to get all of the computers to duplicate the configuration of one machine? [02:17] maccam94: are you saying similar to WSUS? [02:17] maccam94: strictly speaking, that would be LTSP FAT client, which will be in 7.10 ... i.e. identical single image. But the method I described above will essentially give the same (if not identical) config state to all machines. [02:18] fat client [02:18] exactly [02:18] 7.10? :-\ [02:18] version 7.10 = 2007 October [02:18] well, a fat client is actually diskless [02:18] well these machines all have disks [02:18] it uses the hardware of the machine [02:19] they're powerful enough to run an OS, but network authentication, networked /home, and mass updates (and program installations) would be desired [02:20] i'm writing up a proposal to a committe in charge of deciding the technology plan for a high school for the next 5 years [02:20] what yu want is rather having a package proxy i your network and distributing packagelists via dpkg --get-selections/--set-selections to the different workstations [02:21] ogra, so then all of the machines would have to download the files on their own? or would they use a local apt-mirror? [02:21] and then have the workstations run a script once a day to rsync the lists and upgrade from the package proxy accordig to the packagelist [02:21] ok [02:21] thats how i would do it ;) [02:22] ogra, so it is simple to push that dpkg command to all of the machines at once? [02:22] i'm sure there are thousands of solutions for mass maintenance on debian based systems :) [02:22] ogra, haha i'm just looking for one that's simple and easy to explain [02:22] you run dpkg --get-selections > packagelist,txt [02:22] (on your master machine) [02:23] ogra: this is worth documenting as a how to ... it will be a significant requirement this year. we may even want to run a small tutorial on this at UES ? [02:23] then you copy packagelist.txt to the client and run: dpkg --set-selections < packagelist.txt [02:23] after that apt-get upgrade ... [02:23] RichEd, thats documented a million times .... [02:23] ogra, how would you copy it to the client and get it to do that without manually logging into each client? [02:24] i'm trying to find a solution that will help the one school IT administrator manage 700 computers [02:25] ogra: on our site(s) or just debain for now ? [02:25] *debian [02:26] #!/bin/sh \n rsync rsync://server/tmp/packagelist.txt /root/packagelist.txt \n apt-get update \n dpkg --set-selections < /root/packagelist.txt \n apt-get upgrade [02:26] something like that ... [02:26] as cronscript on the client [02:26] RichEd, surely anywhere in the server docs [02:27] okie. [02:27] and i'm sure in several debian documentations as well ... [02:27] its as common as "howto setup network authentication" ;) [02:28] ogra, so that is something that has to be included in the initial installation? there's no way to just send some sort of command over the network to all of the clients? [02:28] no === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving] [02:29] ubuntu workstation installs dont listen on any ports to the outside world ... you need to set up soemthing yourself, but its usually something you never touch again after you set it up once in your life [02:29] apart from that there might be tools ... [02:30] i never looked, since that script slution is the easier way === tovella [n=ktraglin@ool-4579ba05.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:34] maccam94, http://www.infodrom.org/Debian/doc/maint/ probably you find some other suggestions there [02:34] k [02:35] even though thats for debian, the principles will be the same in ubuntu === cliebow__ [n=cliebow@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [02:37] ok [02:38] unfortunately the guides seems to be mainly about administering a single machine [02:39] ah, sorry then [02:39] but there are tons of such howtos even for mass maintenance [02:40] that's what I figured, I just can't seem to find any this morning ;-) [02:41] i'm writing up a proposal to a committe in charge of deciding the technology plan for a high school for the next 5 years <- when is your deadline ? it may be an idea to try to work together on knocking some of the generic stuff into a "Edubuntu / Ubuntu" doc [02:42] right [02:42] or scripts something easy together [02:42] *script [02:42] i said I would have it for the next meeting, which is on (or around) april 24th === knix_ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:43] i'd be happy to help brainstorm, for the next couple of weeks i'll be spending at least an hour a day on this [02:43] maccam94: I'm quite busy until wed/thu, but would be interested in helping ... as this will be useful for me as well. can you pop me an email ? richard@ubuntu.com [02:43] sure thing [02:44] !network-manager [02:44] knix_, got NM problems ? [02:45] maccam94: can you see my /msg window to you ? [02:45] got it === knix_ is now known as stormchas3r [02:45] ogra, just seeing if NM is fixed for feisty [02:46] edubuntu is waiting for that one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/100021 [02:46] great, and so am I [02:46] heh [02:46] anybody is it seems *g* [02:47] i was pondering to drop NM completely ... but then we'd miss it on workstation installs [02:47] please drop NM [02:47] its evil crappy software [02:48] jsgotangco, i dont want to differ to much from ubuntu :) but then it needs to support our setup ... [02:48] just hope it doesnt get fixed for release, then i have to drop it ;) [02:48] i would prefer KDE's wlassistant than NM [02:48] well [02:49] only if for wireless access [02:49] we just dropped all the kde libs from the main CD :) [02:49] yeah [02:49] booohooo [02:49] I hope it gets fixed. I wanna get this in my school [02:49] make them write a proper gtk frontend ;) [02:49] NM or edubuntu? [02:49] heh [02:49] edubuntu [02:50] well, easy fix if you run ltsp just remove it after install for now ... [02:50] ok [02:52] will I still be able to boot to the server w/o ltsp? [02:52] sure [02:52] err [02:52] i meant to uninstall NM [02:53] not ltsp :) [02:53] gotcha [02:53] knetwrokmanager is working super on this ibook in feisty 8~) [02:55] really ? [02:55] even with ltsp ? [02:55] i thought they use the same backend [02:56] im not running the ibook as ltsp server..or client for that matter..assuming last was meant for me [02:57] yeah it was :) [02:57] NM breaks static interface configs and only accepts one interface running ... which in turn tears down all ltsp services [02:57] (as long as you have a two NIC setup:)) [02:59] what are the differences betweem edgy edu and feisty edu? [03:00] well having a newer version of gnome for starters [03:00] two CDs [03:00] instead of one [03:00] and 2 cds [03:00] so should I use edgy for the time being till NM gets fixed? [03:00] for ltsp we have a new sound architecture that emulates alsa in the session (fixes tons of sound probs) [03:01] i c [03:01] a new pinting architecture [03:01] lost of speedups [03:01] kewl [03:01] a new ltsp session managemet tool (thin-cliet-manager) [03:01] *client [03:01] do you remember me ogra? [03:01] ogra:Wow..then cant wait to pull the other laptop out [03:01] thats the main changes ... apart from that many many bugfixes indeed and all chages you see in ubuntu === tovella [n=ktraglin@ool-4579ba05.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-240-113-167.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === SiCk [i=wakeupha@cpc2-blfs2-0-0-cust190.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:23] hey guys, just wondering if anyone could help with a little autologin problem on the clients im having? [03:27] SiCk, tell us about it [03:29] well, i have pretty much everything set up for it, but they dont login at all [03:29] i did the kiosk setup that you wrote at one point if i recall [03:29] and it worked once, that was a good while ago, but i've had no luck since [03:30] they have their custom .xsessions , and the account is setup with disabled password etc. [03:30] you want a webkiosk mode or plain autologin to a desktop ? [03:30] webkiosk === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [03:30] well, what did you change with the existing webkiosk mode ? since you say it worked once, why did it stop ? [03:31] I'd reloaded the machine a few times since that [03:31] from various problems and other people wanting to use the machine.. heh [03:31] now i have something dedicated and i cant get it going on it [03:32] so you recreate your client setup with ltsp-build-client --kiosk ? [03:32] (or was it --webkiosk ?, cant remember) [03:32] it was --kiosk, but i went through and did it pretty much manually [03:32] ah [03:32] so i've maybe missed something there? [03:32] well, --kiosk should work, try using it and make your modifications later :) [03:33] one by one, so you can see when it breaks :) [03:33] heh, true... i'll have a go at that then... ill just run through that wiki tutorial [03:34] no, thats not proper [03:34] oh? [03:34] its just about how to write a plugin geerally [03:34] *generally [03:34] so is that possibly where i'm going wrong then [03:34] the proper mode is builtin in ltsp-build-client [03:35] it does some more stuff the example plugin doesnt have [03:35] ah, right.. well the only thing i've installed after that plugin-esque thing is opera realy [03:35] really* [03:36] and the custom .xsession [03:36] check the difference :) /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/030-kiosk [03:37] i dont have a 030-kiosk :s [03:37] ah [03:37] you dot run feisty :) [03:37] edgy im afraid === tovella [n=ktraglin@ool-4579ba05.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:38] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13511/ [03:38] :) [03:40] this is okay to do manually? === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu [03:41] yes [03:41] cool, i'll let you know how it goes! [03:41] thanks again ogra [03:41] but you ca also copy it into the plugin dir and just let it run ... the only change you need to make is drop the pulseaudio line ... that didnt exist in edgy === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:27] heya === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === kenthomson [n=kenthoms@59.95.231.203] has joined #edubuntu [04:41] Is someone awake? I have a long question which would help me whether to use edubuntu or not? Is anyone experienced enough listening? Only than i would type the whole situation to illustrate my problem [04:42] *decide [04:42] Hellooo....? [04:42] hello kenthomson! I don't know if I can helpp you, but i'll try [04:42] rockprincess, thats enough motivation, So listen... [04:42] hello kenthomson! I'm using Edubuntu myself, but I'm no developer! [04:43] upppps typed the hello bit again lol [04:43] ok, i'm listening ;) [04:43] kenthomson, just shoot :) [04:44] kenthomson: orga is your man! he's the man in the know ;) [04:44] I need to set up a lab with 8-10 boxes. I need to coach kids on it. They will do simple stuff like paint-programs/draw/logo/simple document editing/games. So what is better a DAMN SMALL LINUX on the thin client itself (you see this would eliminate the need of the server) or a full fledged edubuntu with a central server a switch and thin clients? I think if i can run DSL on thin clients itself (without the server) than that would be a lot of cost-sa [04:44] ving...but as you can see i don't know much, please pragmatise and illustrate a solution for me. Thanks for listening [04:44] ogra, there you go! [04:45] maintenance wise a thin client solution is always the best [04:45] simply because you only need to care for a single machine [04:46] having a to of workstations means you also need to care for each one individually [04:46] ogra, but If i can simply pop-in a live-cd in each of the machines (the supposed to be-thin clients) than DSL can comfortably run [04:46] *ton [04:46] sure [04:46] hi kenthomson : Are you the Ken we met at the dinner with maddog in SF last year ? [04:46] ogra, without any maintenance issues! Despite kids can't run much havoc [04:46] but you need to care for the liveCDs etc ... [04:47] RichEd, I hope we could have, but unforunately no ;-) [04:47] ogra, right! [04:47] ogra, what would you recommend as the hardware configuration of a typical thin client [04:47] what if a kid wants to do somethig thats not provided by the CD for example [04:48] ogra, hardware configuration for a typical thin client, please [04:48] a tyical thin client should have 300-800Mhz, 64-256 MB, at least 2Mb graphics memory and a network card thats capable of doing netbooting [04:48] ogra, no HDD needed? not even little? [04:49] no [04:49] ogra, If i have a HDD to spare for each machine can i enable cache/something similar to speed up the process [04:49] you need a rather beefey server for that .... 256M to run the server itself and ~128M per connected client [04:50] ogra, i am not talking about RAM but HDD for each seperate TCs [04:51] ...? [04:51] well, you could fiddle something yourself to bot from the HDs, but i doubt thats wrth the amount of time you need to put into it over a default edubuntu [04:51] right! [04:51] ogra, and could please be kind enough to tell me about the hardware configuration of a server capable of supporting such 8-10 TCs? [04:51] you ca use the HDs as storage space though [04:51] yeah, see above for the server [04:51] you should have a decent CPU alog the memory requs ... [04:52] *along [04:52] and if you plan to extend that setup a gigabit NIC on the server makes sense as well [04:52] CPU = ****MHZ? [04:52] up to 10 cliets a 100MBit one should do though [04:53] well, something decent ... a current intel CPU [04:53] ogra, could you put that statement into numbers? [04:53] i never thsted the lower end here ... [04:53] so i cant tell numbers [04:53] ogra, as in...say above 3.0GHZ or a rough idea? [04:54] should be fine, yes [04:54] around or above 3ghz is surely working ... [04:54] the server cpu totally depends on the apps you run ... [04:54] a)<2.0GHZ b)2,0-2.5GHZ c)2.5-3.0-GHZ d)>3.0ghz. please select a appropriate one for my needs ;-) [04:55] ogra, not interested anymore? ;-( [04:56] well, i cant tell you much more abut that and need to get my work done here else we wont have a 7.04 release [04:56] something around 3 ghz should suffice ... [04:56] if you run no apps 1ghz will be ok [04:56] MEM = 512MB or greater or lesser? [04:56] if you start firefox and openoffice get 3.5ghz or something [04:57] ogra, ok [04:57] it *totally* depends o the usage [04:57] mem as i said above [04:57] ogra, i told you my usage, simple apps for little kids [04:57] ogra, nothing at all heavy but i would like decent performance anyways [04:57] kenthomson: i can tell you what i'm using here [04:58] rockprincess, i am all ears (| - -|) [04:58] rockprincess, changed your mind? [04:59] kenthomson: i'm using a amd athlon 3800+ (single core), 2gb ddr2 ram [04:59] HDD:? [04:59] kenthomson: 320gb hdd [04:59] and how many TCs does this server support? [04:59] at the moment connected to 6 thinclients [04:59] hey ogra, when you have a couple minutes, the kiosk thing still aint workin.. grr , still no autologin, its like it's not even trying... [04:59] How's the performance [04:59] SiCk, hmm [04:59] rockprincess, how's the performance? Is there room for any more TCs or something [05:00] well, the performance is ok so far, but the start up process is a bit tricky so far....i can only boot up one machine after another...not all at the same time :( [05:00] though one thing i did notice.. when it tries the first time, it gives the little drum noise that a password is incorrect? [05:00] but when it's all up, it runs smoothly [05:00] SiCk, you used the plugin with ltsp-build-client ? [05:00] no, i manually did it.. is it worth trying the plugin, yeah/ [05:01] well [05:01] kenthomson, i regularly run 35 clients on a dual opteron 1800 with 4 gig ram [05:01] rockprincess, can you please enlighten me about your network setup? (cables, hub/switches, routers) [05:01] did you replace $ROOT everywhere in the commandds etc ? [05:01] cliebow, what is a deal opteron clicked at? [05:01] cliebow, *clocked [05:02] i want to continue testing feisty, but pulseaudio has not been working on my thin clients. how can i switch back to whatever sound system was used with edgy? [05:02] i'm not sure what switch is used, the network admin at school set it up for me, but i'll have a look after the eastern holidays.... [05:02] tovella, whats not workinfg with it ? [05:02] 3579 bogomips if thst means anything [05:02] not really :) [05:02] ogra: yeah, i had set EXPORT ROOT=/opt/ltsp/i386 beforehand [05:03] cliebow, unfortunately not [05:03] ogra: no sound on the thin clients [05:03] SiCk, well, make sure that was actually used [05:03] cliebow, can you please tell me about your network setup (cables, hub/switches, routers) [05:03] tovella, what did you do to check that pulse isnt runing ? [05:03] kenthomson: i think it [05:03] gig nics in ldapserver fileserver ltspserver..100 meg switches.. [05:04] kenthomson: i think it's a 100mbit switch for 8 thinclients (although i'm only using 6), dont know the brand/model yet [05:05] ogra: about a week ago i switched to tty1, mounted proc, used 'ps' also tried several ways of loading it - to no avail (all sorts of error messages). [05:05] tovella, if pulse doesnt start or work, i'D like to know about it and fix it [05:05] cliebow, rockprincess can you tell me about the type/configuration of my NIC on the server? I need 8-10 simple TCs [05:05] ogra: it was definatly used... something just hates me in ltsp heh [05:05] tovella, ca you set a rootpw in your client: sudo /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd [05:05] well, gdm even [05:05]