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ded_ | mhb: hello you are working on a gbedi for kde? | 12:38 |
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crimsun | (err, gdebi?) | 12:40 |
ded_ | a packetage instalor for local .deb | 12:41 |
ded_ | on gnome | 12:41 |
crimsun | right, gdebi. I wasn't aware of gbedi, hence the question. | 12:41 |
ded_ | houps | 12:43 |
ded_ | i done a little thing on kdevelop for use it in a qt kde interface | 12:45 |
ded_ | that's working | 12:45 |
ded_ | not really beautyfull but that's my first prog on linux | 12:46 |
ded_ | i would like have some comment | 12:47 |
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nixternal | hiya jjesse | 02:37 |
jjesse | hiya nixternal | 02:37 |
jjesse | back in a hotel :( | 02:37 |
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jjesse | congrats | 02:37 |
nixternal | how much longer are you doing that for? | 02:37 |
jjesse | i had 3 weeks on, took a week off and then back for 3 weeks | 02:37 |
jjesse | at least for this customer | 02:38 |
nixternal | are you onsite for a new install or what? | 02:38 |
jjesse | this job is 10 weeks | 02:38 |
jjesse | but yeah i'm onsite | 02:39 |
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odla | i just ran the upgrader from edgy to feisty and ever thing went fine until it suggested packages for removal. i went ahead and removed them then it failed. it gave an error message but i'm not sure what it was or where it is | 04:16 |
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manchicken_ | Howdy all! I've got the first working machine for my compile farm! | 05:11 |
crimsun | cool, going to donate it to imbrandon's ubuntuwire effort? | 05:11 |
manchicken_ | What do you mean? | 05:11 |
manchicken_ | I was not aware of such an effort... | 05:12 |
crimsun | he's building a compile farm of $arches | 05:12 |
manchicken_ | Ah. | 05:12 |
manchicken_ | I'm actually going a different direction. | 05:12 |
manchicken_ | I'm building a compile farm of $kernels :) | 05:12 |
manchicken_ | This one is going to be running xubuntu. It's gonna be the controller. | 05:12 |
crimsun | instead of ubuntu-server? | 05:13 |
manchicken_ | I'm not sure if I want to xen for GNU/Solaris and GNU/HURD or whether I want to run separate machines for it. | 05:13 |
manchicken_ | Actually, for some reason I didn't even think ubuntu server. | 05:13 |
manchicken_ | This machine is a bit older though. | 05:14 |
manchicken_ | 500mhz. | 05:14 |
manchicken_ | What, does server just run ubuntu-minimal? | 05:15 |
crimsun | it includes a LAMP stack by default, too, IIRC | 05:15 |
manchicken_ | But that's it? No GUIs or whatnot? | 05:15 |
nixternal | manchicken_: nope! | 05:16 |
manchicken_ | I don't think this machine will take GNOME very well. | 05:16 |
manchicken_ | Very nice. | 05:16 |
nixternal | I run ubuntu-server for almost everything | 05:16 |
manchicken_ | Nice. | 05:17 |
manchicken_ | This machine is going to be headless. | 05:17 |
manchicken_ | so no GUI is necessary. | 05:17 |
manchicken_ | You run LTS or Edgy? | 05:18 |
nixternal | Edgy | 05:18 |
nixternal | as soon as Feisty goes final I will upgrade them all, since it has been seemless since Breezy pretty much | 05:18 |
manchicken_ | Wow, I'm getting some pretty good download speeds. | 05:19 |
manchicken_ | Man I love this central illinois connection. | 05:19 |
manchicken_ | 10mbps | 05:19 |
manchicken_ | And I'm using every last bit of it. | 05:20 |
nixternal | ya, farmers only check their email, my space, and porn every now and then. they don'th ave any need for wares | 05:20 |
nixternal | ;p | 05:20 |
manchicken_ | I think I may do LTS | 05:21 |
manchicken_ | Just so I can get some LTS if need-be :) | 05:22 |
manchicken_ | Downloading at 1.2MB/s... | 05:22 |
manchicken_ | Kinda slow... | 05:22 |
nixternal | hehe | 05:22 |
manchicken_ | kernel.org mirror though... | 05:23 |
manchicken_ | That's probably the bottleneck. | 05:23 |
nixternal | no way, I use the ussg.iu.edu mirrors for everything | 05:23 |
nixternal | super max downloads | 05:23 |
manchicken_ | What speed? | 05:23 |
nixternal | what ever my connection can handle | 05:23 |
manchicken_ | What's that? | 05:23 |
nixternal | 6MBs I think | 05:23 |
nixternal | or maybe 8 | 05:24 |
manchicken_ | Super-max of 56kbps isn't too impressive ;) | 05:24 |
nixternal | hehe, yes it is | 05:24 |
manchicken_ | brb, gotta find my blanks. | 05:24 |
crimsun | use mirrors2.kernel.org . | 05:24 |
nixternal | especially when I use crimsun's laptop and his AOL connection | 05:24 |
crimsun | it's prodigy/compuserv, thank you muchly | 05:24 |
nixternal | hahah, that was my first ISP | 05:24 |
nixternal | Prodigy | 05:24 |
nixternal | then I went Com21 cable modem in 1995 in southern Maryland | 05:25 |
nixternal | so I didn't have to download Linux from the ship anymore, I could do it from home | 05:25 |
manchicken_ | I'm just not used to this thing being so slow. | 05:26 |
manchicken_ | 1.2MB/s is just too slow. | 05:26 |
manchicken_ | In NYC they have fios. | 05:26 |
crimsun | mirrors is much slower IME than mirrors2 | 05:26 |
manchicken_ | They tout up to 50mbps. | 05:26 |
crimsun | bah, I'm _still_ on 56kbps, so you all can stuff it ;) | 05:27 |
nixternal | hehe | 05:28 |
nixternal | manchicken_: you going to Flourish this week? | 05:28 |
ajmitch | crimsun: we should pass the hat around & get you upgraded | 05:28 |
manchicken_ | Naw. | 05:29 |
nixternal | ajmitch: he is a professor! he has money ;p | 05:29 |
manchicken_ | I don't like Flourish. | 05:29 |
nixternal | why is that? | 05:29 |
manchicken_ | I think Flourish is an event for fascists to pretend that they're not fascists by pretending to like "open source." | 05:29 |
manchicken_ | It helps folks find jobs, too, which is good. | 05:30 |
ajmitch | nixternal: hah, funny | 05:30 |
manchicken_ | But I don't need one of those. heh | 05:30 |
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nixternal | but I need to show up to one Chicago even for Quigley pitches a fit ;) | 05:30 |
nixternal | s/even/event | 05:30 |
crimsun | nixternal: if "money" == donated textbooks, sure | 05:31 |
manchicken_ | Nice. | 05:31 |
manchicken_ | Yeah, alot of the ChiGLUG (now they went back to "LUG") is more on the proprietary-friendly side of things. | 05:32 |
nixternal | what? when did that happen? | 05:32 |
manchicken_ | The mailing lists have no "G" in them. | 05:32 |
nixternal | website still says ChiGLUG | 05:32 |
manchicken_ | They started using the chicagolug url again, and the mailing lists are chicagolug... but yeah, it does say GNU/Linux on the site. | 05:34 |
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manchicken_ | The get ubuntu page is kinda confusing. | 06:01 |
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crimsun | ick, hand-holding in -motu? No thanks, not _that_ sort of hand-holding. | 07:01 |
ajmitch | hah | 07:01 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: haha, yes. | 07:01 |
ajmitch | trying to extract useful answers | 07:02 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: and there's an example of what you should *not* do :P | 07:10 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: but it's for your own good :) | 07:10 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: yeah, for your own good *man*! :) | 07:11 |
Hobbsee | haha | 07:11 |
Jucato | although... I'll probably be pestering you guys with some questions... stuff that would/could probably be put up in the FAQ :) | 07:11 |
Hobbsee | then you can add it to the FAQ | 07:11 |
ajmitch | as long as you ask them in an intelligent manner, being willing to do research yourself | 07:11 |
Hobbsee | exactly :P | 07:12 |
Jucato | yep. I wouldn't want to look stupid in my own blog :D | 07:12 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 07:12 |
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Hobbsee | hehe | 07:13 |
Hobbsee | sounds good to me :) | 07:13 |
Jucato | your suggestions falls under the "Where/How should I ask for help?" question ;) | 07:14 |
Hobbsee | :) | 07:15 |
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giangy | 'morning | 07:59 |
Hobbsee | heya | 08:01 |
giangy | ayo Hobbsee :) | 08:01 |
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_StefanS_ | morning | 09:10 |
asyd | hello there | 09:10 |
_StefanS_ | heeeeeeeeeeya | 09:10 |
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mhb | ded_: hi | 09:21 |
mhb | ded_: it is likely that I will work on that frontend for feisty+1 | 09:23 |
mhb | ded_: I am sorry that I didn't answer sooner, I was asleep at that time. You can use email to send me the comments - that may be better as we live in different timezones, it seems. | 09:26 |
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cyt | Hi all, will the final Feisty contains the KDE 3.5.6 or KDE4? | 10:23 |
crimsun | both. | 10:23 |
crimsun | it will ship with the former, and snapshot(s) of the latter will be available in universe. | 10:23 |
cyt | crimsun: So the default install will be the 3.5.6 ? And the users can install KDE$ by themself? | 10:25 |
crimsun | cyt: default -> yes. Users can choose to install a KDE4 snap alongside 3.5.6. | 10:26 |
cyt | crimsun: I am current using Beta, if after Feisty release, and I make a 'dist-upgrade', will my system be upgraded to KDE4? | 10:28 |
crimsun | cyt: no. | 10:28 |
cyt | crimsun: Thanks ;) | 10:29 |
Tm_T | cyt: but well, KDE4 won't be much usable yet when Feisty is released so, don't hurry too much with it | 10:34 |
cyt | Tm_T: Yes, KDE4 is so exciting, but it's not usable at this moment ;) | 10:36 |
Tm_T | cyt: well, my first experiences with KDE4-svn are from year ago | 10:37 |
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Tm_T | then it was exciting ;) | 10:38 |
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Jucato | moin Riddell! | 01:12 |
Riddell | hi Jucato, kdesdk uploaded | 01:15 |
Jucato | yay! :) | 01:15 |
Jucato | so I guess I did the debdiff right? thanks! :) | 01:16 |
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dinosaur-rus | hi | 01:16 |
Riddell | Jucato: I renamed the .diff to kubuntu_01_ as we do, and added a description in the changelog | 01:20 |
Riddell | otherwise all good | 01:20 |
Jucato | Riddell: ah kool. I'm always clueless when it comes to the changelog :) | 01:20 |
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ded_ | mhb: ok have you got a mail? | 01:40 |
mhb | ded_: sure, martin.bohm<at>kubuntu.org | 01:53 |
ded_ | all right i send you my work | 01:53 |
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ded_ | i send it sorry for the bloody hotmail adress | 01:58 |
ded_ | mhb: where do you come from? | 01:59 |
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Hobbsee | anyone alive in here? Riddell maybe? | 02:47 |
mhb | ded_: thanks .... czech rep., why? | 02:47 |
kwwii | I'm here but I am sure I cannot help :p | 02:47 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: depends how much you know about qt and such | 02:47 |
Hobbsee | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt-x11-free/+bug/81686 | 02:48 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: have you been affected by that? | 02:49 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: no. there's a guy in -bugs who wrote it, and who's asking about it, though | 02:49 |
Hobbsee | it's for edgy, no idea how it works on feisty, or if it does | 02:49 |
ded_ | mhb: for see the time diff | 02:49 |
ded_ | mhb: what time is it there? | 02:50 |
mhb | ded_: 14:51 | 02:50 |
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ded_ | this is the same time so | 03:15 |
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ded_ | have you got my mail? | 03:15 |
mhb | ded_: yes, thank you for that | 03:20 |
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ded_ | you tested it? | 03:37 |
mhb | ded_: yes, it seemed to work | 03:39 |
mhb | ded_: what did you code it for? | 03:39 |
mhb | ded_: there is one big problem about it (from my point of view) ... it uses C++ , whereas "gdebi" uses Python | 03:40 |
mhb | ded_: and gdebi is already separated into a "backend" and "frontend" part, so it's very easy to build upon that code | 03:41 |
ded_ | my code execute the gdebi command line and write the result in a qstring | 03:45 |
ded_ | the qstring is passed to a label qt | 03:46 |
ded_ | i done it beceause i would like to add rpm support with alien | 03:46 |
ded_ | in a second time i want to create a search motor for package classed by extension file that the soft could open | 03:49 |
ded_ | with screenshot | 03:50 |
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bddebian | Heya | 04:27 |
Hobbsee | hiya | 04:28 |
Jucato | hi bddebian | 04:28 |
bddebian | Hi again Jucato :-) | 04:28 |
bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 04:28 |
Jucato | lol :) | 04:28 |
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manchicken | My April fools post got 639 views yesterday. Very nice. | 04:40 |
Tm_T | (: | 04:40 |
apachelogger | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4768 | 04:41 |
apachelogger | consider me as back :D | 04:41 |
apachelogger | muhahaha | 04:41 |
apachelogger | ;-) | 04:41 |
Hobbsee | yay, apachelogger! | 04:43 |
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freeflying | apachelogger: it's your package? | 04:52 |
apachelogger | freeflying: yep | 04:52 |
freeflying | apachelogger: use link for config.guess and config.sub, it will make your diff more little | 04:53 |
freeflying | Add your package copyright | 04:53 |
ded_ | mhb: we work together on this project or you wanna make a python frontend? | 04:54 |
mhb | ded_: I want to do a python frontend for gdebi, that's sure | 04:55 |
mhb | ded_: (KDE frontend, that is) | 04:55 |
apachelogger | freeflying: package copyright? | 04:55 |
freeflying | provide a patch for kirocker-3.0.orig/src/kirocker.desktop's change | 04:55 |
mhb | ded_: I really wonder if creating a separate application is the way to go (for you) | 04:56 |
freeflying | apachelogger: ya, you'd tell others which license you'd prefer for your package | 04:56 |
apachelogger | freeflying: it's not really an intended change ... tarball was kind of messed up | 04:56 |
mhb | ded_: won't you have less work if you took gdebi (the backend) and modify it to fit your needs? After all, python is easy to learn. | 04:56 |
mhb | ded_: just my 2 cents | 04:57 |
apachelogger | freeflying: how can package license differ from software license? | 04:57 |
freeflying | apachelogger: like many gnome stuffs will use LGPL, but youcan use GPL for your debian/ubuntu package | 04:58 |
apachelogger | Oo | 04:58 |
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ded_ | mhb: python is easy to learn i know that is not the problem but i prefer c++ and my project is bigger than gbedi frontend it could be done whith python but c++ is more powerful(at my point of view) and quicker | 05:00 |
freeflying | apachelogger: upstream use LGPL, but it links to GPL's file, so is that ok? | 05:01 |
apachelogger | huh? | 05:02 |
apachelogger | freeflying: upstream is using GPL | 05:02 |
flavia | hi, the soundcard of my pc was not detected correctly by feisty and I had to follow the instructions on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/94373 to get it working. The only problem now is that the master volume doesn't do anything anymore, just the pcm volume control. Any idea on how to fix this? | 05:02 |
freeflying | apachelogger: sorry, my fault | 05:03 |
apachelogger | no problem :) | 05:04 |
freeflying | apachelogger: you'd better go ubuntu-motu/debian-mentors for more advice :) | 05:04 |
apachelogger | well, I will have to wait for upstream to fix the tarball anyway | 05:05 |
apachelogger | there must be some strange bug in kdevelop's tarsystem which causes some files in admin dir to be duplicated | 05:05 |
apachelogger | really strange issue though | 05:05 |
freeflying | apachelogger: you'd mention that the doc/* distributed under FDL | 05:07 |
apachelogger | thx | 05:08 |
freeflying | ubuntu ftp-master will not care too much about this, but debian's will :) | 05:09 |
apachelogger | btw, is the patch for generating .pot files still necessary? | 05:10 |
freeflying | if you wanna upload to debian, recomend have | 05:11 |
apachelogger | ok | 05:13 |
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Hobbsee | whee, adept sigseiv | 05:46 |
Jucato | wow :) | 05:46 |
Hobbsee | useless BT. | 05:46 |
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Hobbsee | night Jucato | 05:46 |
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LeeJunFan | that's some color scheme eh? | 06:08 |
yuriy | yeah, yuck. mostly the green bar at the top, that's really irritating | 06:11 |
yuriy | also the gray text, though i think it's always been like that | 06:11 |
yuriy | but now tha the rest of it is high contrast it's worse | 06:11 |
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LeeJunFan | yeah, I'd have to agree, the green bar at the top really clashes. | 06:23 |
LeeJunFan | someone needs a color wheel. | 06:23 |
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_StefanS_ | evening ! | 07:27 |
_StefanS_ | hey kwwii | 07:27 |
_StefanS_ | and all the others ! | 07:27 |
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dandel | anyone here using the fglrx drivers here, besides me? | 07:34 |
_StefanS_ | dandel: yep here | 07:35 |
dandel | have you been trying to use tv out? | 07:35 |
dandel | but 81686 | 07:35 |
dandel | err. | 07:35 |
dandel | bug 81686 | 07:35 |
_StefanS_ | oh.. nope | 07:35 |
_StefanS_ | I have no need for it | 07:35 |
dandel | ah. | 07:35 |
_StefanS_ | sorry | 07:35 |
dandel | i need a test of a patch of mine | 07:35 |
ubotu | Malone bug 81686 in qt-x11-free "SIGFPE in create_dpis() in QPaintDevice::~QPaintDevice" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81686 | 07:36 |
_StefanS_ | resolution stuff ? | 07:36 |
dandel | sorta slow lol... i fixed the bug for both feisty and edgy. | 07:36 |
dandel | dpi issues | 07:36 |
dandel | resolution was right on that, except for the tv out had no mm set. | 07:37 |
_StefanS_ | so fonts are screwed in tv out without your patch? | 07:37 |
dandel | no... it's called all qt based apps will not run without it. | 07:37 |
_StefanS_ | ah I see | 07:37 |
dandel | if you force tv out, and try running kde you'll crash every time it tries to run the createdevice dpi or w/e it was. | 07:38 |
dandel | i was working with hobbsee about getting it tested on a unaffected card. | 07:39 |
_StefanS_ | uhm well I could hook my lappy to my lcd tv I guess | 07:40 |
dandel | you do know how to setup the tv right? | 07:40 |
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_StefanS_ | well no, I was just going to write that ;) | 07:40 |
dandel | lol. | 07:40 |
_StefanS_ | aticonfig will do it i presume ? | 07:41 |
dandel | yea | 07:41 |
dandel | but prep with that patch b4 hand. | 07:41 |
dandel | get it's deb files reasy | 07:41 |
_StefanS_ | and twinview is fine ? or do I need to have it as the primary screen ? | 07:41 |
dandel | *ready | 07:41 |
dandel | i use horizinal | 07:41 |
_StefanS_ | 2 screens ? | 07:41 |
dandel | yea | 07:41 |
dandel | i like having a second desktop to use. | 07:41 |
_StefanS_ | uhm oka | 07:41 |
_StefanS_ | so kde will just crash if it doesnt work ? | 07:42 |
kwwii | hi _StefanS_ | 07:42 |
_StefanS_ | hey kwwii thought you were away :D | 07:42 |
kwwii | well, I am eating dinner | 07:43 |
dandel | kde will crash if your not patched | 07:43 |
_StefanS_ | dandel: I will try later, have to look at new car i'm about to buy | 07:43 |
dandel | ok later. | 07:43 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: heard that ? - i'm looking to buy a vw passat tdi ;) | 07:43 |
kwwii | someone should fix kde and kdm so that it works with thinkfinger | 07:43 |
_StefanS_ | or just give it the finger :D | 07:43 |
kwwii | _StefanS_: killler, I looked at one of those too :-) | 07:43 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: well imagine you | 07:43 |
kwwii | _StefanS_: very nice cars | 07:44 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: were looking at a new one ;) | 07:44 |
dandel | i use gnome though... but i do have kde installed if i recall right, i've been testing with qsynth and sim primarely. | 07:44 |
kwwii | _StefanS_: I just bought a new car on Friday | 07:44 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: I have to shop for a 2003 model | 07:44 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: congrats :) | 07:44 |
kwwii | thnx :-) | 07:44 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: any luck with the logo btw ? | 07:44 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: (or time) :) | 07:45 |
kwwii | _StefanS_: spent most of the weekend driving around in it :-) | 07:45 |
kwwii | _StefanS_: but I will work on something tonight and tomorrow, ok? | 07:45 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: yea sure, don't stress it :) | 07:45 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: go drive your car - and find an autobahn without speed limits | 07:46 |
kwwii | hehe, that is exactly what I did ;-) | 07:46 |
_StefanS_ | hehe :D | 07:46 |
_StefanS_ | kwwii: top speed? | 07:46 |
kwwii | around 230km/h | 07:46 |
_StefanS_ | woooheee | 07:46 |
kwwii | 163 horse power | 07:47 |
_StefanS_ | -----------------> | 07:47 |
_StefanS_ | nice :) | 07:47 |
kwwii | well, if you're living in a country where you can drive as fast as you want, you might as well have a fast car ;-) | 07:47 |
_StefanS_ | well I gotta hit the shower, the guy is coming by here at 20.00 to show me the car | 07:47 |
kwwii | cool, have fun ;-) | 07:47 |
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_StefanS_ | thanks :) | 07:48 |
_StefanS_ | dandel: I will check that stuff after my test drive.. please email me the details : sfs@enhance-it.dk | 07:48 |
dandel | simple patch on current fiesty/edgy install | 07:48 |
dandel | see the bug report about it, for how to get it, since it's already uploaded. | 07:49 |
_StefanS_ | oka | 07:52 |
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dandel | _StefanS_, you will know your effected by running this command in the terminal... xdpyinfo | grep -B2 reso | 07:54 |
dandel | the lcd screen, which should be one of the 2 will ready 0x0 millimetters and have a negative dpi. | 07:55 |
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manchicken | w00t! I got my passport. | 08:28 |
manchicken | It's very pretty. | 08:28 |
yuriy | they tend to be | 08:32 |
yuriy | security-by-colorfulness | 08:32 |
yuriy | manchicken: RFID-ified? | 08:32 |
manchicken | I don't see RFID... | 08:33 |
manchicken | Though I suppose it could be less than obvious. | 08:33 |
nixternal | I need to update my passport | 08:44 |
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neutraloss_ | console_setup has been giving me problems for a while | 09:38 |
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DaSkreech | Upgrade tool crashed | 09:40 |
DaSkreech | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 09:41 |
nixternal | where are my accounting people at? :) | 09:48 |
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DaSkreech | nixternal: Balancing | 09:56 |
nixternal | heh | 09:56 |
DaSkreech | Man | 09:59 |
DaSkreech | The dist upgrade tool crashed | 09:59 |
DaSkreech | So it launched the recovery dist upgrade | 10:00 |
DaSkreech | Which crashed | 10:00 |
DaSkreech | :-( | 10:00 |
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giangy | mh ktorrent 2.1.3 | 10:58 |
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toma | yep | 12:00 |
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